| 00:05:17 | | Join BBub [0] (belzebub16@dsl-084-059-238-036.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:06:29 | BBub | there is a error in the cvs ;( metadata.c:849: error: `track' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 00:07:25 | | Join preglow [0] (~c39fb6c6@labb.contactor.se) |
| 00:08:08 | preglow | red builds :/ |
| 00:09:11 | BBub | [00:06:31] <BBub> there is a error in the cvs ;( metadata.c:849: error: `track' undeclared (first use in this function) <- ;) |
| 00:09:44 | preglow | yes, someone's done poor testing before committing |
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| 00:11:12 | prethom | i cant fix it, unfortunately |
| 00:11:59 | prethom | only need to change 'track' to 'entry', it seems |
| 00:12:12 | prethom | i sincerely doubt he even compiled this before he commited |
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| 00:14:32 | amiconn | track is a struct trackinfo, which has a member id3 that is a struct mp3entry |
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| 00:15:13 | prethom | is someone planning to start renaming all the id3 stuff to something more generic? |
| 00:18:14 | amiconn | I wonder (1) why people don't compile their changes before committing (2) why they don't even check the compile status on the site and (3) what the default genre fix (hack?) has to do with the last-tag-in-flac problem |
| 00:18:44 | Lear | well, he did chang a few more things... |
| 00:18:50 | Lear | but I'll make it compile at least... |
| 00:18:58 | prethom | i believe people generally do compile, the trick is convincing yourself even the most trivial change can go wrong |
| 00:19:13 | prethom | and then again making yourself never commit if you're in a hurry |
| 00:19:22 | prethom | i've gotten burned on that last one myself a time or two |
| 00:19:43 | amiconn | Once should be enough to learn that... |
| 00:22:03 | prethom | yes, 'should' being the troublesome part |
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| 00:24:01 | prethom | is playback on h1x0 the way it is on archos now, btw? |
| 00:24:02 | Lear | There, fixed. Seems to work in the simulator too... |
| 00:24:19 | Lear | and what exactly do you mean by that? :) |
| 00:24:25 | prethom | i really dislike the seeking behaviour, which is more or less the only place i feel the iriver firmware still does a better job |
| 00:24:37 | Lear | that it pauses you mean? |
| 00:24:37 | Rick | what's wrong with the seeking? |
| 00:24:55 | Rick | I hate how iriver seek does that live seek or whatever |
| 00:25:01 | prethom | 1. no sound while seeking, 2. it doesn't start prebuffering if you're clearly seeking outside the current playback buffer |
| 00:25:02 | Rick | takes FOREVER to seek through 3 hour tracks |
| 00:25:21 | prethom | still, it's sensible enough as it is |
| 00:25:26 | prethom | but i'd like a live mode as well |
| 00:25:28 | Lear | 2. why start prebuffering when you don't really know where you'll end up anyway? |
| 00:25:29 | prethom | for those short seeks |
| 00:25:40 | prethom | lear: that's what i mean with it being sensible |
| 00:26:04 | prethom | but i still do a ton of shorter seeks where i know where i want to skip to by the sound |
| 00:26:07 | amiconn | Playback is not yet fully like on archos |
| 00:26:10 | prethom | with rockbox that's a pain |
| 00:26:39 | prethom | how does it differ? |
| 00:26:40 | amiconn | I don't care about sound while seeking |
| 00:27:04 | amiconn | I want a fast & exact seek |
| 00:27:35 | prethom | sure, me too, but i usually dont know the time i want to seek to, i know what music i want to seek to |
| 00:27:49 | prethom | since i listen to quite long mixes from time to time |
| 00:28:00 | amiconn | I have to evaluate the exact differences, here are 2 that straight come to mind |
| 00:28:27 | amiconn | (1) Stop in file browser doesn't work. It's supposed to stop playback if there's music playing |
| 00:28:51 | prethom | well, that should be easily fixable |
| 00:28:56 | amiconn | (2) The last few seconds of a track don't update the wps |
| 00:29:15 | prethom | yeah, that's true |
| 00:29:30 | amiconn | (3) Long seeks (*way* longer than the buffer mem) still don't work correctly |
| 00:29:40 | Lear | i suspect all those "while playing" loops could have something to do with 2... |
| 00:30:35 | amiconn | And of course, the other way 'round, the runtime db is still not hooked up on archos... |
| 00:33:18 | HCl | yes |
| 00:33:30 | HCl | we need to get that fixed |
| 00:33:34 | HCl | sometime soon. |
| 00:33:40 | prethom | shouldn't be that hard, no? |
| 00:33:49 | HCl | i dunno archos, but probably not |
| 00:34:05 | amiconn | I once tried, but failed |
| 00:34:10 | HCl | :/ |
| 00:34:14 | HCl | what failed about it? |
| 00:34:29 | amiconn | However, I believe this was due to the runtimedb init problem I introduced.... |
| 00:35:01 | HCl | might very well be |
| 00:35:17 | HCl | brb |
| 00:35:49 | amiconn | Ugh! I just converted mandelbrot.rock to 64 bit arithmetics for a test. The binary size almost doubled... |
| 00:36:22 | prethom | ahaha |
| 00:36:29 | prethom | integer or float? |
| 00:36:36 | amiconn | long long |
| 00:36:58 | prethom | strange, both are dependent on support functions, not much is inlined, i believe |
| 00:37:47 | prethom | emac optimise it! :PPpPPppPP |
| 00:38:04 | amiconn | Who's the emac guy? ;) |
| 00:38:13 | amiconn | The speed is still bearable, btw |
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| 00:38:34 | prethom | the emac guy just left screaming |
| 00:38:37 | Lear | emac doesn't help much here... You only get 32 (or possibly 40) bits of result anyway... |
| 00:38:56 | amiconn | Now I can zoom like mad without precision probs |
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| 00:39:24 | prethom | lear: yeah, i dont know shit about how mandelbrot calculations work |
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| 00:41:29 | amiconn | I should probably implement adaptive maximum iteration count |
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| 00:41:42 | prethom | the web client seems to drop sentences from time to time |
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| 00:41:59 | prethom | but yeah, i've mentioned it before, but the sim resampler FRACMUL routine is wrong |
| 00:42:12 | Lear | playback works fine for me... |
| 00:42:18 | prethom | with resampling? |
| 00:42:24 | Lear | yep. |
| 00:42:27 | prethom | queer |
| 00:42:47 | Lear | if you now what the emac does it fractional mode, it makes sense... |
| 00:43:03 | prethom | well, i wrote it |
| 00:43:30 | prethom | the emac frac multiplier doesn't return the top 32 bits |
| 00:43:49 | Lear | yes it does. see the coldfire programmer's manual. |
| 00:44:04 | prethom | it shifts the result once first |
| 00:44:08 | prethom | left |
| 00:44:21 | Lear | once as in one bit? |
| 00:44:21 | prethom | so you actually get (x*y) << 1 |
| 00:44:39 | Lear | actually, in frac mode, there's no shift at all (like you can get in integer mode)... |
| 00:45:12 | prethom | are you absolutely 100% certain? i've done countless tests on this, and all pointed to there being a shift |
| 00:45:18 | prethom | and it makes sense for fractional numbers |
| 00:45:43 | Lear | well, I'm playing a 32 kHz ogg in the simulator right now. works fine (except for the occasional gap, that is...). |
| 00:45:45 | prethom | i've also written quite a few lines of asm that assumes there being a shift |
| 00:46:00 | Lear | I've seen comments to that effect at least... |
| 00:46:15 | prethom | probably my comments ;) |
| 00:46:32 | amiconn | Does the fractional mode work on 0.32 signed fixed point numbers? |
| 00:46:39 | prethom | signed 0.31 |
| 00:47:09 | prethom | depending on your notation, heh |
| 00:47:12 | amiconn | Ah, yes, so range is -0.5 <= x < +0.5 ? |
| 00:47:21 | prethom | one sign bit, 31 frac bits |
| 00:47:38 | prethom | range is -1 <= x <= 0.999999999 |
| 00:47:41 | Lear | the frac thing is, it multiplies two numbers, both essentially being multiplied by a large factor. but the result should only be multiplied once, so you have to divide the result of a mul. |
| 00:48:19 | amiconn | prethom: For that range, the shift doesn't make sense to me... |
| 00:48:22 | Lear | so, two numbers, e.g. shifted left by eight, to multiply them you must write (x * y) >> 8 for the right result. |
| 00:48:41 | prethom | sure, i know this |
| 00:49:09 | prethom | amiconn: the leftmost bit is NEVER used, apart from the case of -1 * -1 |
| 00:49:32 | amiconn | I do also know how fixed point works... that's what mandelbrot.rock uses |
| 00:49:59 | prethom | you can get the leftmost bit, it's part of the upper extension byte |
| 00:50:09 | amiconn | I also know that depending on the int.fract split, it might be necessary to shift beforehand |
| 00:51:25 | Lear | see page 1-10 in the coldfire programmer's manual. Shows quite clearly that you get the top 32 (40 via extension byte) bits from a 32 by 32 mul. |
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| 00:52:00 | prethom | lear: i suggest you do some direct tests, then, mul two numbers and see what you get out, i'll bet you find the answer to be shifted left once from what you expect |
| 00:52:24 | prethom | if this isn't correct, i might as well just resign from the project on the grounds of being too stupid to have anything work |
| 00:52:51 | prethom | 'cuz i just couldn't understand what the emac unit was giving me in the start |
| 00:52:52 | Lear | the volume during playback ought to be noticably wrong then, wouldn't it? |
| 00:52:58 | prethom | lear: indeed |
| 00:53:09 | Lear | I don't think it is... |
| 00:53:41 | prethom | but please, hack up a plugin to see what a direct mul gives you, i'd love to have this verified |
| 00:54:11 | prethom | if i'm not correct, it's just quite simply a miracle that any of my asm opts work at all |
| 00:54:24 | prethom | since a shifting error can account for quite much in some places |
| 00:54:28 | prethom | god knows i've hunted them |
| 00:55:43 | prethom | but like you say, the docs clearly states the top 32 bits are being returned |
| 00:55:51 | prethom | but the motorola docs contain heaps of errors |
| 00:56:56 | prethom | all of my libmad asm optimisitations correspond directly with other decoders in term of quality and amplitude, so i _should_ be right |
| 00:57:08 | amiconn | Found 2 more things: (1) The long long arithmetics do also work on archos, just rather slow. (2) The critical zoom factor where thelack-of-precision artifacts become visible is where I would expect it |
| 00:57:34 | prethom | are the plugins compiled with -O ? |
| 00:57:37 | Lear | i'll see if I can make a quick hack now then... |
| 00:57:52 | prethom | perhaps O2 would give some nice boosts for stuff like mandelbrot and jpeg |
| 00:58:49 | amiconn | I don't really trust gcc in what it does with higher optimisation settings |
| 00:59:17 | amiconn | ...at least for non-x86 |
| 00:59:25 | prethom | i don't think it screws too badly up with highlevel code |
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| 01:02:27 | prethom | at least it does wonders for the codecs |
| 01:03:57 | solex_ | If rockbox crashes on my iriver, and I get an error message with some memory addresses, should I report that here? |
| 01:04:25 | prethom | sure |
| 01:04:49 | prethom | do we bundle a map file along with the daily builds, anyone? :P |
| 01:05:13 | solex_ | prethom: Ok, I will take notes in the future. |
| 01:07:15 | Lear | doubt it... |
| 01:07:23 | prethom | as long as you know which build you use, it _might_ at least give some info |
| 01:08:21 | prethom | ugh, i need to rewrite the resampler |
| 01:08:54 | Lear | why? |
| 01:09:01 | prethom | i designed a couple of quick filters the other day, and it seems like iir filter based resampling might be within reach |
| 01:10:14 | prethom | lear: i need to make downsampling work in-place, and i need to make it resample stereo data directly, right now it calculates all the loop variables twice when it doesn't really have to |
| 01:12:01 | Cassandra | lear: Good work on the replaygain stuff, btw. It's nice. |
| 01:12:09 | Lear | thanks. |
| 01:12:10 | Cassandra | Been listening all today on random. |
| 01:12:35 | amiconn | The 64-bit division is a monster on SH1 - ~1.3 KByte of code... |
| 01:12:43 | prethom | ahahaha |
| 01:13:05 | prethom | it's a pretty big routine on most non-64-bit platforms |
| 01:13:10 | Lear | amiconn: no surprise. I guess 32-bit divide is pretty bad too (which explains why rolo was so darn slow in the beginning)... |
| 01:13:13 | amiconn | I'm pretty sure this is compiled C code, using multiple 32 bit operations |
| 01:13:41 | amiconn | I *think* the SH can do better |
| 01:13:49 | prethom | it really should |
| 01:13:56 | prethom | 1.3kb of code for a div is over the top |
| 01:14:05 | Lear | doubt it, it doesn't even have a proper div instruction! |
| 01:14:12 | prethom | i'm sure the gcc people will accept your patch ;) |
| 01:14:18 | prethom | lear: for real? |
| 01:14:28 | amiconn | It doesn't offer direct division of 16 or 32 bit numbers, but a 1-bit-division-step instruction |
| 01:14:36 | prethom | ahh |
| 01:14:44 | prethom | that's not _very_ unusual, at least |
| 01:14:49 | Lear | for a 16 bit divide, you call something called div0, then 15 calls of div1. or along those lines at least... |
| 01:14:55 | Lear | amiconn: exactly. |
| 01:15:13 | prethom | 3dnow has some instructions along those lines |
| 01:15:20 | amiconn | I think that can be used for >32 bits as well, only the shifting may get a bit tricky |
| 01:15:23 | Cassandra | btw Am I the only one getting Rockbox randomly freezing on track change. Pressing stop closes the WPS, but the resume data is gone. |
| 01:15:24 | prethom | for calculation square roots and divisions |
| 01:15:33 | amiconn | Using multiple registers it should be possible though |
| 01:17:18 | amiconn | Mandelbrot doesn't need division in the calculation loop, fortunately |
| 01:17:20 | Lear | prethom: well, yes, for the same result in the simulator, I do need to use >> 31... |
| 01:17:26 | prethom | i rock |
| 01:17:29 | prethom | :-) |
| 01:17:57 | Lear | looked good when I tested (and sound okay now too), so I didn't consider that sign bit... |
| 01:18:18 | Lear | and the brief motorola docs didn't help either. :) |
| 01:18:24 | prethom | well, the extra shift doesn't help things |
| 01:18:33 | prethom | it had me puzzled for a week |
| 01:18:58 | prethom | and another week went until i fully understood that was the internal format, not just movclr.l magic |
| 01:19:03 | amiconn | There is one thing that I like about the coldfire asm: It has shift-by-n instructions |
| 01:19:24 | amiconn | That helped a lot for grayscale... |
| 01:19:29 | Lear | it isn't really an extra shift; more like the proper result when multiplying 31-bit fractional numbers, so to speak. |
| 01:19:37 | prethom | yes |
| 01:19:45 | prethom | that is how it's usually done other places as well |
| 01:20:15 | Lear | so the simulator macros needs some tweaking, but I wonder if anything else in dsp.c does... |
| 01:20:31 | prethom | nothing in the resampler does |
| 01:20:46 | prethom | i wrote that and FRACMUL, so should work peachy |
| 01:21:21 | prethom | i wonder if the sim FRACMUL mistake is mine, though |
| 01:21:31 | prethom | probably is |
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| 01:22:34 | Lear | nope, I changed that, from something like (x*y)>>1, which wasn't much better when you think about it. :) |
| 01:22:47 | bagawk | amiconn, what happened to lcd_clearpixel? |
| 01:23:04 | prethom | no, my initial take was seriously damaged |
| 01:23:08 | bagawk | amiconn, also warning: "HAVE_LCD_BITMAP" redefined |
| 01:23:50 | amiconn | bagawk: (1) See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GraphicsAPI lcd_clearpixel() is no longer needed |
| 01:24:00 | prethom | the routine assumes you work with long long, but there's a long cast there clear as day, heh |
| 01:24:00 | amiconn | (2) Dunno what you're doing... |
| 01:24:33 | Lear | no, it was x*y << 1... |
| 01:24:42 | prethom | yup |
| 01:24:54 | prethom | that's what it would be if you used 64 bit precision all the way |
| 01:25:44 | Lear | I said "like" above, didn't bother about exact types... |
| 01:26:31 | bagawk | amiconn, so a replacment is bg_drawpixle(x,y);? |
| 01:26:41 | prethom | didn't get to test sim audio those days anyway |
| 01:27:03 | amiconn | bagawk: No, you use lcd_drawpixel with a suitable drawmode |
| 01:27:49 | bagawk | ahh |
| 01:28:01 | Lear | hm... the fracmul_8 thing ought to be correct. In effect, I'm multiplying a s.31 with a s7.24, so that should still be shifted right 24 bits... |
| 01:28:30 | Lear | so the comment was misleading, and fracmul in sim was off... |
| 01:29:39 | prethom | yup |
| 01:29:52 | prethom | fracmul_8 is correct, yes |
| 01:30:03 | prethom | at least looks like it, i'm not too awake right now |
| 01:30:16 | Lear | hm.. wait a minute, I did look at values from the resampler in the simulator, and it did look right when I shifted right by 32... (I got nice values between samp-1 and samp, so to speak) |
| 01:30:58 | Lear | but there could've been shift errors in my debug prints, I might add... :) |
| 01:31:40 | Lear | oh well, nothing I'll bother to commit right now anyway. :) |
| 01:32:09 | prethom | no, sure, but just put it in some day, the less confusion about the frac mul, the better |
| 01:32:28 | prethom | i did consider writing a quick emac howto, but never got around to it |
| 01:34:32 | Lear | he, I could've used that. took some time before I understood how it worked / found all relevant documentation about it... |
| 01:34:55 | prethom | yes, me too |
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| 01:38:45 | prethom | i better start thinking about going to bed |
| 01:40:12 | Lear | hm.. wonder if starting the comment with "Multiply two S.31 fractional integers" makes it much clearer for "outsiders"... |
| 01:40:21 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:40:21 | * | Lear should also go to bed soon... |
| 01:42:04 | Lear | btw, got that butterfly replacement working, but it wasn't much of an improvement... (not too surprised really) |
| 01:42:14 | prethom | no, me neither, really |
| 01:42:46 | prethom | if you're serious about codec improvement, you should try to integrate that special cache dependant function section i was talking about |
| 01:42:53 | prethom | i'd do it myself, but no dev env yet |
| 01:44:20 | prethom | i'm moving to another flat in a couple of weeks, think i'll be set for more coding then |
| 01:44:44 | prethom | i wont cry leaving this 28k8 hell behind |
| 01:46:41 | Lear | I'm not sure what that would do really, and where to use it, so... |
| 01:47:36 | Lear | but throught that code i verified an errata in the cpu (at least I think I did...) :) |
| 01:48:08 | Lear | what, only 28k8? but that's still better than what I had when I changed broadbad isp... |
| 01:49:22 | Lear | for some reason (bad modem/adsl equipment still installed), my 56k modem did not give me any good speed - or reliable connection for that matter... |
| 01:50:27 | prethom | it's for grouping all performance critical functions together so they dont step on each others feet in the cache |
| 01:50:39 | Lear | regarding the errata, when getting the result from the emac, try to put an instruction after the last mac/msac and the first move from accumulator. |
| 01:50:43 | prethom | this is a 56k modem, but the connection's so bad it reverts to 28k8 |
| 01:51:06 | prethom | yeah, good old emac fetch stall |
| 01:51:08 | Lear | okay... still no idea on how to do it... :) |
| 01:51:21 | prethom | i've got a imdct patch in the patch tracker that does it |
| 01:51:36 | Lear | the one that's supposed to be faster, you mean? |
| 01:51:41 | prethom | yes |
| 01:52:17 | prethom | the imdct routine itself doesn't do it, but i added a special .cachetest section that's supposed to hold all the critical functions |
| 01:53:38 | prethom | but i gotta go to bed |
| 01:53:42 | prethom | see y'all later |
| 01:53:48 | Lear | but there is still an errata regarding the stall, doing a mul on acc1 shouldn't stall a fetch of acc0... |
| 01:53:55 | prethom | ahh, yes |
| 01:54:13 | prethom | doesn't matter which acc |
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| 01:54:31 | Lear | so you just mean put all "critical" functions in one section? |
| 01:54:36 | prethom | yep |
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| 01:54:45 | prethom | so they end up mapped right next to each other in memory |
| 01:54:56 | Lear | yep, got it. |
| 01:55:07 | prethom | this way the chance of them sharing the bottom part of the address is lesser |
| 01:55:34 | prethom | i believe the cache uses the bottom 12 bits as a key |
| 01:55:40 | prethom | and it's 1 way associative :/ |
| 01:56:26 | prethom | so if there's a collision, the cache line is flushed, no mercy |
| 01:56:47 | prethom | for the case of the imdct patch, this effect was _really_ noticable |
| 01:57:05 | prethom | i had no idea why it was so slow until linus suggested that |
| 01:57:14 | Lear | something to look at for vorbis; might not need icode then... |
| 01:57:42 | prethom | yup, i'm hoping for at least some small gains |
| 01:57:48 | Lear | (which basically has the same effect) |
| 01:58:08 | prethom | well, more or less, the cache will still be flushed when other non-tremor code is called |
| 01:58:11 | prethom | but it's close enough |
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| 01:58:46 | prethom | iram code will always be faster, but as long as we have important data to stuff into it, that's what it should be used for |
| 01:59:01 | prethom | but you're also right in there not being too much important data left in tremor |
| 01:59:18 | prethom | perhaps there's something left that is dynamically allocated |
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| 01:59:40 | prethom | anywho, i need to go |
| 01:59:41 | prethom | later |
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| 02:00:15 | Lear | bye, I'm off too. |
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| 02:51:37 | OPP | hello |
| 02:52:14 | OPP | do you guys think the h1xx stuff can be ported to h3xx |
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| 03:21:19 | ashridah | nevar! |
| 03:22:52 | t0mas | kik |
| 03:22:54 | t0mas | *lol |
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| 03:29:31 | t0mas | omg |
| 03:29:46 | t0mas | some idiot on a dutch channel is talking about his new idea... |
| 03:30:03 | t0mas | "When I'm 20, I'm going to kill myself... if life doesn't prove it's cool" |
| 03:30:15 | t0mas | "How should life fo that?" |
| 03:30:32 | t0mas | "I should have a great chick, nice car... a lot of money... and I should be a famous hacker." |
| 03:30:46 | t0mas | "Dude... you can kill yourself right now... it's just impossible :P" |
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| 04:03:53 | OPP | anyone here |
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| 04:05:46 | BBub | yup |
| 04:06:16 | OPP | nice |
| 04:06:24 | OPP | hows the h3xx port goin |
| 04:07:18 | BBub | noone is really working on it afaik |
| 04:07:43 | OPP | ? |
| 04:07:44 | OPP | really |
| 04:07:45 | OPP | wow |
| 04:07:51 | OPP | i thought it was |
| 04:09:27 | BBub | maybe with the IaudioX5 port going forward that will improve |
| 04:09:32 | BBub | as they both have colour-displays |
| 04:10:29 | OPP | well |
| 04:10:31 | OPP | the h120 |
| 04:10:35 | OPP | is like the same |
| 04:11:25 | BBub | it is in most parts |
| 04:11:37 | BBub | the cpu goes up to 140 mhz instead of 120 |
| 04:11:43 | OPP | ahh |
| 04:11:51 | OPP | so there shouldnt be much trouble porting it |
| 04:11:53 | BBub | but i guess the colour-implementation will take some time |
| 04:11:57 | OPP | ya |
| 04:12:49 | BBub | oh wait, seems like the h1x0 cpu can also go up to 140 mhz |
| 04:13:00 | OPP | o |
| 04:13:05 | OPP | do you have an h120 |
| 04:13:07 | OPP | or h140 |
| 04:13:15 | BBub | h110 ;) |
| 04:13:25 | BBub | maybe a h130 soon |
| 04:13:27 | OPP | is that 10 gig? |
| 04:13:30 | BBub | yup |
| 04:13:38 | OPP | o |
| 04:13:53 | BBub | the first hdd-player from iriver |
| 04:14:09 | OPP | i want one |
| 04:14:39 | BBub | yeah, its a really nice player |
| 04:14:44 | BBub | best sound i heared so far |
| 04:14:52 | BBub | the h10 is a little worse ;( |
| 04:14:54 | OPP | i had one |
| 04:14:57 | OPP | but i sold it |
| 04:14:59 | OPP | a long time ago |
| 04:15:04 | OPP | and now i have an h320 |
| 04:15:09 | BBub | well, i got mine for 2 years now |
| 04:15:13 | BBub | wont give it away ;) |
| 04:15:19 | OPP | ya |
| 04:15:25 | OPP | im lookin for them everywhere |
| 04:15:29 | BBub | i never liked the h3x0 having no remote |
| 04:15:36 | OPP | they made one for it.. |
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| 04:15:41 | OPP | lcd remote |
| 04:15:47 | OPP | but i dont like remotes |
| 04:16:19 | BBub | i find the player too unhandy to get it out of your pocket while biking for example |
| 04:16:25 | OPP | oh |
| 04:16:29 | OPP | i just use playlists |
| 04:16:42 | BBub | k |
| 04:18:50 | OPP | grr and im moving |
| 04:18:54 | OPP | have to wait after that |
| 04:19:18 | OPP | maybe the h3xx port will get released in the next couple months |
| 04:19:28 | BBub | i would think so |
| 04:19:34 | OPP | really? |
| 04:19:36 | OPP | thats oon? |
| 04:19:38 | OPP | soon* |
| 04:19:55 | OPP | hmm ill hang on to it then |
| 04:20:11 | BBub | as i said they are also working on a IaudioX5 port which also requires colour-support |
| 04:20:23 | BBub | so i guess that will push it further |
| 04:20:35 | OPP | oh |
| 04:20:37 | OPP | ya |
| 04:20:49 | OPP | isnt all the hardware already figured out for the h3xx |
| 04:20:58 | BBub | yup |
| 04:21:43 | OPP | thats good to hear |
| 04:22:50 | OPP | whats the process after that making the boot loader |
| 04:23:22 | BBub | yeah |
| 04:23:32 | OPP | and then its done? |
| 04:23:49 | BBub | well, lets say it will boot ;) |
| 04:24:22 | OPP | o |
| 04:24:22 | OPP | ok |
| 04:24:34 | BBub | but as the dsp is the same it should work right from the start |
| 04:25:09 | OPP | ahhh |
| 04:25:20 | OPP | so once the boot loader is made its using the same fw |
| 04:25:45 | OPP | i have some ideas for it :-D |
| 04:25:48 | OPP | some basic some not |
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| 04:26:35 | OPP | being able to get like 20 fps instead of 10 would be great |
| 04:26:39 | OPP | for vids |
| 04:26:55 | BBub | that will take some time i guess |
| 04:27:05 | BBub | there is no video in rockbox yet |
| 04:27:14 | OPP | ya |
| 04:27:30 | OPP | everything in the h1xx should stay |
| 04:27:34 | OPP | its all genius |
| 04:27:44 | BBub | and again they would need integer-based codecs for the videos to decode |
| 04:27:51 | OPP | ya |
| 04:27:55 | BBub | so that will be a little harder |
| 04:27:59 | OPP | actually |
| 04:28:04 | OPP | i could live without videos |
| 04:28:07 | BBub | but i find the jpeg-support for the h1x0 quite nice |
| 04:28:14 | BBub | its really good qualy for the display it has |
| 04:28:18 | OPP | i mean you can always go back to the original firmware |
| 04:28:23 | BBub | sure |
| 04:28:27 | OPP | to watch vids |
| 04:28:29 | BBub | i also do it because of the remote |
| 04:28:38 | BBub | which only shows the rockbox logo so far ;( |
| 04:28:53 | OPP | :-( |
| 04:29:47 | OPP | be happy, this things been out less then a month and its already way better then ipodlinux' |
| 04:29:58 | BBub | hehe |
| 04:30:20 | BBub | ipod is for fashionists anyway ;P |
| 04:31:02 | OPP | ya |
| 04:31:15 | OPP | iriver is for t3h n3rds and people who like high quality music |
| 04:31:22 | BBub | exactly |
| 04:31:36 | OPP | although i saw a girl with an h120 yesterday |
| 04:31:40 | OPP | i knew her pretty well |
| 04:31:51 | OPP | seemed like she was a fashionist |
| 04:32:41 | BBub | heh |
| 04:35:26 | OPP | are you a coder |
| 04:39:26 | BBub | nope |
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| 04:39:37 | BBub | i am not experienced enough at c |
| 04:39:43 | OPP | o |
| 04:55:48 | OPP | well im psyched |
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| 06:12:44 | webguest16 | hey everyone, I was just thinking of a feature... |
| 06:13:01 | webguest16 | can we add some menu option in the view playlist screen to "delete all by playing" |
| 06:14:30 | webguest16 | oops, sorry, I meant "delete all BUT playing" |
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| 08:37:57 | Cka3ka | hey hey |
| 08:38:08 | Cka3ka | anyone around at this late hour |
| 08:38:15 | Cka3ka | specifically anyone with rockbox on their iriver? |
| 08:38:32 | amiconn | Late? It's 08:38 a.m. here ... |
| 08:38:41 | Cka3ka | lmao its 2am here |
| 08:38:42 | Cka3ka | 230 |
| 08:38:43 | Cka3ka | hehe |
| 08:38:46 | Cka3ka | i go to bed at 5 |
| 08:38:52 | Cka3ka | so i guess its early morning? |
| 08:38:53 | Cka3ka | either way |
| 08:39:11 | Cka3ka | so man you have an iriver? |
| 08:42:40 | Cka3ka | eh ill pose the question openly: frankly, i just want a clock on my iriver, thing is that iriver doesnt inherently have a "sleep" mode like the ipod that lets it be off but still keep track of time without resetting time. BUUUT with iriver coding hd spindowns and sleepmodes, even on the iriver build, i was wondering if possible to get the whole clock idea going, if so we can build on that by adding a callendar/date and from there you have a |
| 08:42:48 | Cka3ka | damn that was long, someone better read that shit =-) |
| 08:44:07 | Cka3ka | .....no reply isnt cool lol |
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| 08:50:34 | amiconn | I don't think a clock makes sense on iriver. As soon as you shut down the time will be lost |
| 08:51:12 | amiconn | I mean, that will inevitably happen. |
| 08:51:45 | amiconn | Either you forgot that you don't want the normal shutdown, or the iriver runs out of battery power while in 'deep sleep'... |
| 08:52:06 | amiconn | It would be very cumbersome to set the clock that often |
| 08:52:14 | ashridah | aah, finally. 1.5 years into this damned degree, and i finally get a challenging programming assignment :) |
| 08:52:41 | amiconn | What may be feasible is a wake-up alarm, i.e. "wake me up after x hours" with deep sleep mode |
| 08:54:17 | Cka3ka | mm |
| 08:54:21 | Cka3ka | sorry im back |
| 08:54:28 | Cka3ka | i dont understand why not replace off with deepsleep |
| 08:54:44 | Cka3ka | and doesnt the same crap happen with ipod, its inevitable, battery dead=no time |
| 08:54:49 | amiconn | Because it eats battery power |
| 08:54:52 | Cka3ka | so big deal, i havnt killed my baterry in forever |
| 08:55:02 | Cka3ka | yea, how much? to run 1 tiny program |
| 08:55:12 | Cka3ka | low level program* id expect |
| 08:55:20 | Cka3ka | i really think almost none at all =-\ |
| 08:55:43 | Cka3ka | besides the iriver rarley completley drains |
| 08:55:51 | Cka3ka | it gives you low bat warning and still saves some |
| 08:55:56 | Cka3ka | that you cant really use |
| 08:56:00 | Cka3ka | which is smart id say lol |
| 08:56:04 | Cka3ka | just in case |
| 08:56:05 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 08:56:09 | amiconn | Hmm? |
| 08:56:20 | Cka3ka | the iriver, it shuts down before bat is at 0 |
| 08:56:40 | amiconn | I can run my battery all the way down so the HD can't spinup any more |
| 08:56:44 | Cka3ka | i guess so it doesnt screw anything up with a shutdown that just jacks the power |
| 08:56:44 | amiconn | (with rockbox) |
| 08:57:00 | amiconn | I don't use the iriver fw, so I can't tell what iriver does |
| 08:57:06 | Cka3ka | i guess, i tried today |
| 08:57:10 | Cka3ka | neither do i anymore |
| 08:57:20 | Cka3ka | i clicked the on button and it said warnin low battery |
| 08:57:25 | Cka3ka | i plugged into wall |
| 08:57:27 | Cka3ka | and it ran |
| 08:57:30 | Cka3ka | so i dunno |
| 08:57:55 | Cka3ka | but still you have 16 hrs of battery while playin music; thats thousands times more in deepsleep with clock |
| 08:57:59 | Cka3ka | dont you think? |
| 08:58:04 | amiconn | I didn't use the iriver fw at all, except for some tests |
| 08:58:11 | Cka3ka | and then you can have a button combo say play and left to turn off completley |
| 08:58:19 | amiconn | I actually got my iriver for the purpose of rockbox hacking |
| 08:58:32 | Cka3ka | i had to use it, i got my ihp before rockbox was useable ;-) |
| 08:58:34 | Cka3ka | nice |
| 08:58:55 | Cka3ka | are you part of the team? if so props to an amazing job |
| 08:59:19 | amiconn | There is no fixed 'team' but I think I've done quite a lot for rockbox |
| 08:59:28 | Cka3ka | thanks a lot then =-) |
| 08:59:38 | Cka3ka | im using it as we speak |
| 08:59:39 | amiconn | ...not only on iriver. I have 3 different archoses as well... |
| 08:59:45 | Cka3ka | wow |
| 08:59:45 | Cka3ka | lol |
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| 09:00:06 | Cka3ka | when i was looking what to buyi thought of archos due to rockbox being fairly done for them |
| 09:00:11 | Cka3ka | but i decided too bulky |
| 09:00:14 | Cka3ka | and whent ihp |
| 09:00:37 | Cka3ka | bulky and somehow extremley lacking any hotness (the ihp isnt the pinacle, but has a nice case) |
| 09:01:07 | Cka3ka | but yeah man, i think that a tiny program can be built ONLY to keep track of time |
| 09:01:21 | Cka3ka | so like it watches seconds mins hours days months years |
| 09:01:37 | Cka3ka | i think its really easy to prog that much; its the deep sleep that would be hard |
| 09:01:40 | amiconn | The thing is that even a tiny program consumes power, while full off consumes *no* power |
| 09:02:05 | Cka3ka | thas what im saying, replace full off (make it an option) with deep deep sleep |
| 09:02:14 | Cka3ka | that drains tiny bit of power for sake of clock |
| 09:02:18 | amiconn | I can store my iriver in off state for weeks, then power on again and have full battery capacity available |
| 09:02:33 | amiconn | I couldn't do that with deep sleep mode |
| 09:02:42 | Cka3ka | hence the options button |
| 09:02:46 | Cka3ka | option* |
| 09:02:54 | Cka3ka | it can be toggleable i guess lol |
| 09:02:57 | amiconn | The question is how low we can get the power consumption |
| 09:03:14 | amiconn | I have some ideas what to do, but it requires measurements |
| 09:03:16 | Cka3ka | well look; i use my iriver non stop as do a lot of people that have onnly 1 mp3 player |
| 09:03:25 | Cka3ka | and i haev to charge every other day |
| 09:03:34 | Cka3ka | bat lasts me 2 days |
| 09:03:40 | Cka3ka | im gonna be charging anyways |
| 09:03:46 | Cka3ka | and im not always at 0 when i charge |
| 09:03:50 | Cka3ka | which i know is bad but i cant help it |
| 09:04:03 | Cka3ka | like if im goin to school i cant go with like 1 % bat life just so itll go to 0 |
| 09:04:13 | Cka3ka | thing is most people can spare that battery |
| 09:04:26 | Cka3ka | and in terms of useabillity i guess |
| 09:04:33 | ashridah | uh. correct me if i'm wrong, but lipoly batteries aren't supposed to have any real memory effect anyway, are they? |
| 09:04:52 | Cka3ka | you could even make it so that total off or (power save mode or something) is done by clicking off and another button simultaneosly |
| 09:05:07 | Cka3ka | god so many spelling errors, i cant see what im typing, falling asleep, no more caffine |
| 09:05:59 | Cka3ka | see i dunno, arent supposed to, but my last irivers battery (which i got replaced cus i fell off a bike and the screen cracked...they said they dont care andll replace it) the battery practically died in 1 day |
| 09:06:22 | Cka3ka | i mean it went away so much faster as compared to when i bought it |
| 09:06:40 | amiconn | We can shutdown harddisk power (we already do that), LCD screen, and even the DRAM if running code in IRAM only |
| 09:06:40 | Cka3ka | and that was only after a year of charging it like so |
| 09:06:52 | amiconn | We can also put the CPU at minimum clock |
| 09:07:13 | Cka3ka | sounds like youre almost there |
| 09:07:20 | Cka3ka | id totally do it but i completley lack the skill |
| 09:07:31 | Cka3ka | :-\ working on that though |
| 09:07:35 | Cka3ka | sooo need programming classes |
| 09:07:48 | ashridah | i've been using mine for almost a year and a half. i haven't noticed any major changes in battery life. i rarely have to go the full distance tho |
| 09:08:33 | Cka3ka | btw side note, do you like santana? if so recomend an album other than supernatural |
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| 09:08:46 | Cka3ka | cus ive gone through that a lot and i have like 17 others and am swamped to listen to it all |
| 09:08:47 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 09:08:49 | Cka3ka | a bit at a time |
| 09:08:50 | Cka3ka | =-) |
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| 09:09:14 | amiconn | The minimum CPU clock should be even lower than the 11 MHz PLL bypass |
| 09:09:23 | amiconn | It seems the PLL can be uses to clock down, but that needs measurements whether the saved CPU core power is worth the slightly extra power to run the PLL |
| 09:09:48 | Cka3ka | <<−− already a mile behind you |
| 09:09:54 | Cka3ka | no clue what pll is |
| 09:10:27 | ashridah | phase locked loop |
| 09:10:44 | ashridah | nice cheap frequency synchronisation circuit |
| 09:10:57 | ashridah | look it up on wikipedia |
| 09:11:04 | Cka3ka | good call |
| 09:11:05 | Cka3ka | give me a sec |
| 09:11:06 | ashridah | pretty sure there's an entry on them there |
| 09:11:56 | amiconn | There's also a simplöe by-2 divider iiuc, meaning we should be able to clock at 5.5 MHz without using the PLL |
| 09:12:29 | Cka3ka | mm |
| 09:12:36 | Cka3ka | may i add a totally different approach? |
| 09:12:44 | Cka3ka | just an idea of course |
| 09:13:18 | Cka3ka | colarado broadcasts an extremley low frequency high bounce radio sygnal that contains the time (atomic clock sync) |
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| 09:13:26 | Cka3ka | if the iriver's radio can be used to pick that up |
| 09:13:30 | Cka3ka | then its just as good? |
| 09:13:49 | Cka3ka | oooo and to add to the previous idea (not atomic) |
| 09:14:09 | Cka3ka | you can have reg clock run while iriver is on (like an app) and when in sleep just time how long its been in sleep |
| 09:14:24 | Cka3ka | when on use simple code to add the timer in seconds to last saved clock |
| 09:14:44 | Cka3ka | should take even less cpu/power than keeping track of current time/date |
| 09:14:48 | Cka3ka | what do you think |
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| 09:15:15 | Cka3ka | so itll be like turned off last at hh:ss mm/dd/yy + seconds its been off |
| 09:15:52 | Cka3ka | to the new ones entering, im tryin to help come up wit ideas on having a clock on the iriver, despite its total off ...thing lol |
| 09:16:12 | amiconn | Of course it would only count up in deep sleep; the tricky part is how to hand over the updated value when rebooting rockbox at poweron |
| 09:16:50 | Cka3ka | well wouldnt it be using ram to keep the seconds in check |
| 09:17:00 | Cka3ka | so why not just somehow add those seconds to the clock |
| 09:17:08 | Cka3ka | essentiall like moving the min arm forward by hand |
| 09:17:13 | amiconn | The radio chip can only receive FM radio broadcast range, VLF time service reception is impossible |
| 09:17:33 | Cka3ka | aww thas too bad; heheh worth an try though |
| 09:17:43 | Cka3ka | only fm? i thuught am too lol |
| 09:17:44 | Cka3ka | o well |
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| 09:19:02 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/TEA5767HN_2.pdf Philips TEA5767HN: Low-power FM stereo radio for |
| 09:19:02 | amiconn | handheld applications |
| 09:19:17 | Cka3ka | so yea man i gotta go to sleep and i figure im not much help anyways |
| 09:19:18 | Cka3ka | ahh |
| 09:19:27 | Cka3ka | i just wanted to sorta throw out that idea |
| 09:19:41 | Cka3ka | its 3 and i shoulda been sleeping by 1 or so =-\ i got a tournament comin up |
| 09:19:44 | Cka3ka | night all |
| 09:20:06 | Cka3ka | if you come up with anything amiconn email me? |
| 09:20:44 | Cka3ka | just out of curiosity so i know if my idea went anywhere |
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| 09:40:09 | * | amiconn just got an idea. |
| 09:41:30 | amiconn | I think it *is* possible to measure the PLL relock delay, what would be deemed impossible.... |
| 09:42:42 | amiconn | We know that the CPU runs at 11 MHz until the PLL relocks, so we could set up a timer before setting the PLL on bypass, then set the PLL for the new frequency |
| 09:43:08 | amiconn | Since we are busy-waiting for the relock anyway, we could then read the timer count immediately after relock |
| 09:43:34 | amiconn | That should allow to calculate the relock delay... |
| 09:44:22 | amiconn | Better still, read the timer repeatedly within the busy-wait loop, then use the last read value after leaving the loop |
| 09:45:06 | amiconn | Should reduce the error margin, because the counter counts much faster after leaving the loop (by the factor of new_clock / 11 MHz) |
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| 10:05:46 | austriancoder | morning |
| 10:07:50 | amiconn | afternoon ;) |
| 10:07:56 | amiconn | No, morning :) |
| 10:08:10 | austriancoder | *g*... maybe |
| 10:08:42 | austriancoder | amiconn: what are you doing at the moment? |
| 10:17:14 | austriancoder | have you time to check something? |
| 10:18:10 | amiconn | Busy with boring real-life stuff :( |
| 10:18:29 | austriancoder | ah ok |
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| 10:35:43 | Yokalosh | the solder points are different on the jbr10 to the ones on the player in the guide made in 2000 arent they? |
| 10:35:48 | austriancoder | what is De-emphasis in connection with audio codec? |
| 10:41:38 | Yokalosh | my dc in kinda became detached to the board |
| 10:41:48 | Yokalosh | i should be able to take it appart and solder it back on right? |
| 10:47:22 | Yokalosh | ????? |
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| 10:48:26 | Yokalosh | preglow :) |
| 10:48:50 | preglow | ac: de-emphasis is removing funny high frequency amplification, you'll almost never need it |
| 10:49:25 | preglow | yokalosh: hi |
| 10:50:35 | Yokalosh | is there a updated verion of dassassembling the archos for a jukebox recorder 10? |
| 10:50:40 | austriancoder | preglow: ok |
| 10:50:49 | amiconn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deemphasis |
| 10:50:58 | austriancoder | preglow: have you time to check some stuff for me? |
| 10:51:52 | preglow | depends, i dont have a development environment and am on a slow modem |
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| 10:52:47 | austriancoder | preglow: you dont need a dev enviroment |
| 10:52:48 | austriancoder | http://nopaste.php-q.net/150129 |
| 10:53:16 | austriancoder | http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/tlv320aic23b.pdf |
| 10:56:25 | austriancoder | i feel not safe with bitwise operations |
| 10:57:18 | [-AIR-] | hey...here: http://www.rockbox.org/requests.shtml surely "WPS Right Justify" in "configuration" is complete? |
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| 11:01:05 | preglow | ac: what's with all the 0 << x ? they'll all be zero |
| 11:02:14 | preglow | and all the addresses are specified in bits, not hex |
| 11:02:28 | austriancoder | preglow: could be... i fell not good with such bitwise stuff |
| 11:02:54 | austriancoder | could you maybe try to fix/correct it? |
| 11:03:31 | preglow | dont really have time now, perhaps later |
| 11:03:59 | austriancoder | or could you tell me one correct value and i will try it again? |
| 11:04:14 | austriancoder | how must #define LIM look like? |
| 11:04:30 | preglow | REG_LHV is supposed to be 0x2 for one |
| 11:04:46 | preglow | you must convert the values from the bit values in the datasheet to hex |
| 11:04:54 | preglow | as for LIM, gimme a sec |
| 11:05:48 | preglow | LIM should be 1 << 6 |
| 11:06:46 | preglow | wrong |
| 11:06:46 | austriancoder | so i set the 6th bit to 1... have i understood this correct? |
| 11:06:47 | preglow | 1 << 7 |
| 11:06:53 | austriancoder | 7th bit |
| 11:07:06 | preglow | i didn't check if it was eight bits, heh |
| 11:07:28 | preglow | basically it's all 1 << x, where x is the number of the bit, IF the first bit is bit 0 |
| 11:07:50 | preglow | i think all datasheets call the first bit bit 0, so shouldn't be a problem |
| 11:07:53 | austriancoder | ah ok |
| 11:08:25 | austriancoder | sounds easy.. will fix my defines and you can check it later? |
| 11:08:49 | preglow | sure, might be a little while until i come back on, though |
| 11:08:58 | preglow | later |
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| 13:53:57 | XavierGr | hi all! |
| 13:55:59 | austriancoder | hi |
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| 13:58:41 | XavierGr | ac do you know what the * does after the type of a variable? |
| 13:59:58 | austriancoder | this is called a "pointer" |
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| 14:00:39 | austriancoder | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointer |
| 14:01:05 | austriancoder | the pointer points to the space-address of the variable |
| 14:02:07 | XavierGr | yeah but I thought that the * was put onto the variable not the type. or... |
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| 14:03:03 | austriancoder | int* pVar, int *pVar, int * pVar.. all of them are ok and mean the same |
| 14:03:07 | Lear | both ways works fine, just a matter of style. |
| 14:04:59 | leftright | the hiss is qite high with no songs playing, stop selected |
| 14:05:23 | Lear | but if you start involving const into a pointer type, then it becomes slightly more complex... :) |
| 14:05:52 | leftright | high ambient hiss, a lot like tape hiss in the old days |
| 14:05:58 | Lear | yeah, I've noticed that too; thought it was at least partially due to my earphones, but when I plugged them into the computer, there was no hiss at all... |
| 14:06:27 | leftright | very evident on my IEM |
| 14:07:36 | austriancoder | does anybody know something about dsp.c? |
| 14:08:12 | Cassandra | I wsih. |
| 14:09:14 | leftright | mp3 playback crashed twice with yesterdays build, randomly, trying todays build now |
| 14:09:37 | [-AIR-] | today's build...there is one? |
| 14:09:53 | leftright | the daily labeled 29th |
| 14:10:22 | [-AIR-] | 2005-07-28 22:24 |
| 14:10:27 | [-AIR-] | that's the top one |
| 14:11:34 | Lear | ac: yes... |
| 14:11:45 | leftright | ok, crashes occured with 28th's 09:05 build |
| 14:12:01 | [-AIR-] | yer, mine plays music but anything else freezes. |
| 14:12:11 | [-AIR-] | i can't browse while playing |
| 14:13:10 | Lear | austriancoder: what do you want to know? |
| 14:15:08 | XavierGr | strange my build (compiled with remote support based on the latest) works like a charm. |
| 14:15:29 | [-AIR-] | mine doesn't :'( |
| 14:15:33 | XavierGr | can I call the main function of a plugin from its main? |
| 14:16:04 | austriancoder | Lear: one moment need to check something |
| 14:16:42 | Lear | xaviergr: I don't see why not, but I don't see why either... :) |
| 14:17:41 | austriancoder | Lear: it is used to resample pcm streams.. where are the limits of frequences? |
| 14:18:47 | Lear | the resampler can at least take input from 11 kHz to 48 kHz, probably higher frequencies as well, but I haven't tested how much higher... |
| 14:19:02 | Lear | certainly not lower though. :) |
| 14:19:29 | austriancoder | whouldnt it be better to reset the sample format of the audio codec? |
| 14:19:39 | Lear | btw, it's for scaling, clipping and replaygain too.. |
| 14:19:44 | Lear | how do you mean, reset? |
| 14:20:50 | austriancoder | if i look at the datasheet of the tlv320 (audio codec of x5) then i see that it supports samplerates from 8 to 96 khz |
| 14:21:29 | austriancoder | so why dont we simply change the sample rate of the audio codec instead to resample it? |
| 14:22:09 | * | austriancoder will be back in about 8 min |
| 14:22:36 | Lear | ah, you're talking about the hardware codec. :) the codec in the iriver supports different frequencies as well, but for some reason I'm not aware of, that is not done. |
| 14:22:46 | Lear | could be a limitation in the hardware implementation... |
| 14:22:57 | leftright | yep its crashed again with todays build, mp3 playback, error IO3:addrrErr at 31022DA4 |
| 14:23:31 | Lear | I'm listening to mp3 right now, and haven't seen anything... any particular file(s)? |
| 14:24:12 | leftright | my stuff is all LAME@−−alt-preset standard with RG |
| 14:24:19 | crwl | i got a crash today too when i was banging the next button |
| 14:24:32 | crwl | can't remember if those were mp3 or ogg files, anyway, it didn't happen again... |
| 14:24:38 | Lear | same here |
| 14:25:17 | Lear | but from the look of my current map file (which might not match) that address is in the fat code... |
| 14:26:03 | crwl | i got IO3:addrErr at something, it seemed to happen when it tried to buffer new songs and i was still hitting next |
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| 14:29:43 | XavierGr | so when I run a plugin, is there any variable that holds the filenames on the dir? |
| 14:30:22 | leftright | yes again, it seems to crash when it needs to buffer the next |
| 14:30:42 | XavierGr | I want to mod jpeg.c to make it rotate automatically to other files (on the same folder) when you press up or down and you are in no zoom mode |
| 14:30:54 | Lear | like hitting next one? twice? or not at all? |
| 14:31:30 | leftright | no just normal playback, then the HDD red light goes on and then crash |
| 14:31:36 | XavierGr | so I found where the filename is loaded on the plugin and changed the code. But I dont know how I will set the "filename" variable to previous or next file. any pointers? |
| 14:31:42 | Lear | xaviergr: I guess you'd have to parse the filename (assuming you get the full path). but I'd put the "decode and show file" in a separate function in that case... |
| 14:31:55 | leftright | error code and the HDD light remains on |
| 14:32:24 | Lear | extract path name (i.e., remove filename), open and read dir, sort it, locate next/previous file. to put it very briefly. :) |
| 14:32:41 | leftright | it crashes when it accesses the hard drive for more info |
| 14:32:46 | austriancoder | Lear: ah ok.. so i can use the dsp only if the mhz is not supported |
| 14:34:02 | XavierGr | thanks Lear I will try it... |
| 14:34:04 | Lear | no such problems here, and it looked like it could be fat related. check the drive, perhaps? |
| 14:34:20 | Lear | xaviergr: opendir/readdir/closedir are the main functions to use here. |
| 14:34:42 | XavierGr | yeah I can confirm that. No playback problems for me too. |
| 14:34:51 | Cassandra | I think I may have tracked down my problem with RB freezing at the beginning of random tracks to missing/moved tracks on the playlist. |
| 14:37:14 | XavierGr | lets say I've got a char array. filepath[] = "Test" will give the variable the value Test? |
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| 15:03:41 | [-AIR-] | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=283091&postcount=24 :D |
| 15:05:09 | austriancoder | memmem.. where are you.. i need you |
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| 15:07:59 | memmem | yo |
| 15:08:10 | austriancoder | ah.. you are online ;) |
| 15:08:10 | memmem | austriancoder |
| 15:08:14 | memmem | yer |
| 15:08:16 | memmem | lol |
| 15:08:30 | memmem | how can i help? |
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| 15:08:43 | memmem | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=283091&postcount=24 DOES THIS HELP??? |
| 15:08:47 | austriancoder | i am looking at the moment at the routine to write a value int to a tlv320 reg |
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| 15:09:12 | austriancoder | haha |
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| 15:17:09 | amiconn | Wee! Mu asm-optimised 64 bit multiplication for SH1 is working. Speeds up experimental high-precision mandelbrot by a factor of 2.2 (!) :-) |
| 15:19:17 | leftright | sounds like you are enjoying yourself |
| 15:20:32 | XavierGr | what is mandelbrot exactly. I read the wiki to no avail |
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| 15:22:17 | leftright | please dont make sound audible during FF seeking |
| 15:22:56 | leftright | I disliked that intensely with irivers firmware |
| 15:24:17 | XavierGr | amiconn: I have an idea about the jpg viewer. When the user is in no zoom mode, he can press up or down to see the next or previous file in the current dir. What do you think? |
| 15:24:42 | XavierGr | I will try to implement it. |
| 15:24:46 | amiconn | I think that would break the viewer concept... |
| 15:24:51 | XavierGr | why? |
| 15:25:10 | amiconn | Well, a viewer is there to act on a file. *One* file |
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| 15:25:36 | amiconn | Anyway, I think this can be really tricky to implement. |
| 15:26:15 | amiconn | You can extract the directory from the parameter, since all file arguments in rockbox use absolute path |
| 15:26:40 | amiconn | However, you have to parse the directory yourself, with several unknowns |
| 15:26:42 | XavierGr | not SO tricky |
| 15:26:57 | XavierGr | It will filter the files to jpg only |
| 15:27:21 | amiconn | (1) You don't know how large the directory is; possibly hundreds of entries, not all of which are .jpg |
| 15:28:10 | amiconn | (2) You don't know anything about the order the files are listed in the dir, meaning that you don't know at which position you find your current file |
| 15:28:48 | amiconn | (3) If you parse a directory, you retrieve the entries in the order as they are stored on disk, i.e. unsorted |
| 15:29:46 | amiconn | Basically this means to duplicate functionality of the file browser, and in order to be able to apply any sorting, you need a directory buffer, which probably has to be large |
| 15:30:06 | XavierGr | well I will try to make a different function for 1 dir reading and sorting. Match the filename with currently open file and then scroll to the files by calling main(other_file) |
| 15:31:09 | XavierGr | it would be fun to have a small acdsee viewer |
| 15:32:24 | XavierGr | but first I will have to make a dive to the directory, sorting, filename functions. I will have to know them better if I am going to do such thing |
| 15:32:36 | Lear | but don't call main. that means recursive, which can be nasty if you're not careful... :) |
| 15:32:52 | XavierGr | recursive? |
| 15:33:06 | XavierGr | oh I think I got it |
| 15:33:19 | XavierGr | you dont like recursive like gotos and such things |
| 15:33:29 | XavierGr | I love gotos |
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| 15:36:05 | XavierGr | so by any means, lets say that I manage to do it. You seem that you don't like the idea of commiting such thing, do you? |
| 15:36:27 | Lear | recursive is not a goto. it is quite useful sometimes. |
| 15:36:46 | XavierGr | misunderstood then |
| 15:36:57 | Lear | but it can also be a bit tricky to write recursive functions, before you get the hang of it... |
| 15:38:52 | z-lined | could someone help me with a wps? |
| 15:39:28 | XavierGr | prev_file = "/Image/pic012.jpg"; does this makes a valid filename to the variable? |
| 15:40:05 | z-lined | i seem to have the top line (the battery and sound icon etc) displaying over the top of the wps, i'm using AruSahni wps |
| 15:40:43 | XavierGr | move to options and remove the statusbar |
| 15:41:35 | z-lined | ah great thanks |
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| 15:53:11 | Rori | Hi. Does anyone know if this has been addressed or has been confirmed as a bug? http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=282919&postcount=1423 |
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| 15:54:42 | Lear | sounds like the effect of the workaround of another bug... :) |
| 15:55:30 | XavierGr | w00t it worked. I gave a string for filename called gray_show(false) and then main(filname) and it loaded the picture perfect! |
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| 15:58:48 | leftright | hmm, mp3 playback has crashed again, with latest build, |
| 15:59:17 | XavierGr | why so many people say that? I have the latest build and no problems |
| 15:59:25 | XavierGr | reset settings (backup first) and see |
| 15:59:36 | XavierGr | though I doubt that this is to blame |
| 15:59:43 | leftright | I'm not inaging it |
| 15:59:57 | leftright | inaging=imagining |
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| 16:04:16 | XavierGr | hi muesli- |
| 16:04:59 | muesli- | hi XavierGr, hi @ll |
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| 16:06:23 | leftright | right it ctashes with Replay Gain set to 'Album', its OK with RG set to 'Track' |
| 16:07:29 | leftright | mp3, playback, RG set to Album, skip tracks forward, it crashes soon |
| 16:14:17 | leftright | yep its definately the RG 'Album' setting which crashes my mp3 playback |
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| 16:25:54 | muesli- | XavierGr could you please update your remote build :D |
| 16:26:15 | XavierGr | it is |
| 16:26:55 | muesli- | cheers :D |
| 16:30:43 | XavierGr | from now one look to the first post and check for the date. Sometimes I update it without posting, only editing |
| 16:30:59 | muesli- | just bokkmarked it |
| 16:31:07 | muesli- | -k+o |
| 16:31:10 | XavierGr | I will be away to my village until thursday. So no updates till then. |
| 16:31:42 | XavierGr | Then when I come home, I will try to make the jpeg viewer to scroll pics inside a folder, without having to exit first. |
| 16:31:49 | muesli- | we will have to cope with it, but enjoy your stay there |
| 16:31:58 | XavierGr | thanks :) |
| 16:32:02 | muesli- | :D |
| 16:32:16 | XavierGr | bye all see you next week! |
| 16:32:22 | muesli- | cya |
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| 16:33:17 | muesli- | cya mates |
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| 16:40:02 | leftright | I cant duplicate this playback bug at will, and its bugging me |
| 16:49:39 | leftright | I'm going to defrag my player and see if it makes a difference, *shrugs* who knows.. |
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| 18:28:53 | sjutg | fuck you hi-hi-hi-hi-hi!!! |
| 18:29:50 | sjutg | crash_ you are a trash hi-hi-hi-hi-hi!!! |
| 18:30:30 | sjutg | crashd you are too hi-hi-hi-hi-hi!!! |
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| 18:33:58 | Rori | lol wth? |
| 18:34:35 | Rori | drama |
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| 18:36:07 | Mhula | hi all, can anyone tell me what power adapter I should be using? |
| 18:36:14 | Rori | 5v |
| 18:36:26 | Mhula | thanks :) |
| 18:36:56 | Rori | np |
| 18:37:19 | Rori | guessing or iriver h1x0 so yes |
| 18:37:21 | Slasheri | just make sure you have the correct polarity |
| 18:37:22 | Rori | for |
| 18:37:32 | Slasheri | that is very importCant or you will burn your player |
| 18:37:57 | Slasheri | hmm.. are there something wrong with my irc-client? |
| 18:37:57 | Rori | I've swapped polarity befor on one of those interchangeably plugs and never had a burnout on anything |
| 18:38:10 | Slasheri | did you see typos on my last message? |
| 18:40:01 | Rori | that sjutg just pm'd me asking where I live |
| 18:41:17 | Rori | I hate windows that steal focus |
| 18:41:48 | Rori | you are typing something then boom! you don't know what you said ok to etc |
| 18:42:42 | Slasheri | hmm, could you please copy/paste in private the last messages i said? |
| 18:43:30 | Rori | I was not here so sorry |
| 18:43:37 | Slasheri | eh.. |
| 18:43:53 | Slasheri | ok, never mind |
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| 19:09:28 | | Quit courtc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 19:10:16 | | Join leftright [0] (~5087db69@labb.contactor.se) |
| 19:11:49 | leftright | Rori: a several users have burnt out their players by swapping polarity, its bad advice to be nonchalant about polarity |
| 19:14:53 | leftright | Slasheri: <Slasheri> that is very importCant or you will burn your player |
| 19:18:22 | Slasheri | leftright: ok, so there is some bug with my irc client :/ |
| 19:18:29 | Slasheri | just tried unloading a few scripts |
| 19:19:26 | leftright | they're obviously not keeping you busy in the army :) |
| 19:19:54 | Slasheri | hehe, i just have ~two days of holiday ;) |
| 19:19:59 | Slasheri | weekends are free |
| 19:20:10 | leftright | what, you've only been there 4 days |
| 19:20:40 | Slasheri | yes, 4 full days.. friday is a partial day and then free after that |
| 19:20:51 | Slasheri | but that's the "civil service" |
| 19:21:01 | leftright | heh, whats the army coming too, next they'll give you tickets to vegas |
| 19:21:11 | Slasheri | real mil service is much harder and i would not like that so i selected this |
| 19:21:17 | Slasheri | :D |
| 19:21:54 | Slasheri | we have 33 free travel-with-return tickets to anywhere in finland during that service ;) |
| 19:25:19 | leftright | where do I sign up, do they have pretty girls in the army |
| 19:26:02 | | Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-158-45-197.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:34:41 | Mhula | the girls in the army are 'fit' :) |
| 19:35:06 | Mhula | .. on a non-related note, my sister used to be in the army.. |
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| 20:17:51 | [-AIR-] | hey people. |
| 20:18:04 | DreamTactix291 | yo |
| 20:18:16 | ze | who're you calling people |
| 20:18:28 | ze | any relation to the band air? |
| 20:21:08 | [-AIR-] | no. |
| 20:21:29 | [-AIR-] | ze what's with the attitude<−−−−not meaning to be rude |
| 20:21:37 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 9 seconds at the last flood |
| 20:21:37 | * | [-AIR-] is away eating chubby pies |
| 20:21:54 | ze | weird |
| 20:21:58 | ze | that could almost be a song |
| 20:22:04 | ze | */ whats with the attitude |
| 20:22:12 | ze | not meaning to be rude |
| 20:22:19 | ze | air is away eating chubby pies */ |
| 20:23:45 | ze | thats a great line too |
| 20:23:51 | ze | 'air is away eating chubby pies' |
| 20:24:07 | ze | it almost sounds like a social commentary on the state of the US |
| 20:24:12 | ze | or something |
| 20:31:17 | DreamTactix291 | haha |
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| 20:49:13 | bagawk | If anyone is willing to try a custom rockbox version (for recorder v1 only atm): http://leepil.dyndns.org/rockboxv1.zip |
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| 21:12:35 | bagawk | Server with the custom bild is going down, If anyone else wants to try: email me bagawk _AT_ gmail d0t com I can give a build for any of the archos models :) |
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| 21:27:02 | | Part leftright |
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| 22:07:49 | Moos | Hello all ! |
| 22:10:04 | Moos | very quite this night :) |
| 22:11:07 | ryan_j | Yes it is, only it's afternoon for me |
| 22:11:34 | Moos | hehe scuse europe here (France) |
| 22:17:35 | koniu_ | Moos: where in France are ya? |
| 22:18:37 | Moos | in Paris :) |
| 22:18:41 | | Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:18:45 | austriancoder | hi all |
| 22:18:56 | Moos | Hello |
| 22:19:04 | ryan_j | hey |
| 22:19:38 | koniu_ | a good place to be :) do you folks also have these terrible heat waves? |
| 22:20:00 | austriancoder | 34 celsius here |
| 22:20:14 | austriancoder | now about 28 in night |
| 22:20:30 | koniu_ | at least it's not only me who's being scorched ;) |
| 22:20:47 | koniu_ | here it's still over 30 though |
| 22:20:58 | koniu_ | (poland) |
| 22:21:36 | Moos | ~30°C here |
| 22:22:03 | Moos | but every day it's an other weather |
| 22:22:09 | Moos | here :) |
| 22:23:06 | Rori | LOL http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html |
| 22:23:22 | koniu_ | oh, i've recently came back from the isles, the weather there was different every 15 minutes :). but at least it wasnt ever over 35 and no a/c |
| 22:24:52 | Moos | in few weaks Morocco planed for me :) |
| 22:26:16 | austriancoder | an somebody download this file? http://www.freescale.com/files/platforms/doc/user_guide/SCF5250_USERS_MANUAL.pdf |
| 22:26:31 | austriancoder | by me it hags at 44% |
| 22:27:09 | koniu_ | austriancoder: for me too |
| 22:28:14 | koniu_ | but wget -c does the trick |
| 22:28:26 | koniu_ | austriancoder: http://sheket.org/SCF5250_USERS_MANUAL.pdf |
| 22:28:52 | ryan_j | Gotta love wget :-) |
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| 22:30:11 | austriancoder | koniu_: merci |
| 22:30:27 | Musicmad | hi all - any news on fm for iriver? |
| 22:30:39 | * | austriancoder will look into dma handling of iaudio |
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| 23:12:18 | OnkelJonas | *yawn* ... i am teh bored :P |
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| 23:52:31 | leftright | anyone here to help me verify a bug ? |
| 23:53:13 | leftright | the bug is... |
| 23:54:29 | leftright | filw tree mode, add one song to the playlist, then whilst that song is playing right click the joystick as if selecting a new song |
| 23:55:30 | leftright | it freezes the display and song, as if its paused, the only way to unfreeze it is to press stop |
| 23:56:44 | ryan_j | Works fine here. Which build are you using? |
| 23:56:55 | leftright | todays |
| 23:57:23 | ryan_j | Oh, is it iriver or archos? |
| 23:57:26 | leftright | add only one song to the playlist, not more |
| 23:57:29 | leftright | iriver |
| 23:57:33 | leftright | h140 |
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