| 00:00:28 | solex | DarkkOne: will do next. |
| 00:00:32 | Bagder | ./apps/rockbox.map |
| 00:00:41 | Bagder | but it isn't easy to work out |
| 00:01:06 | solex | -q5 isn't played either. |
| 00:01:16 | Bagder | matsl: what gcc version? |
| 00:01:34 | matsl | 3.3.5-20050130 |
| 00:01:46 | Bagder | austriancoder: and you? |
| 00:01:47 | DarkkOne | What happens when they don't play... (I wasn't here for that bit) |
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| 00:02:16 | solex | Either I get a "codec failure" |
| 00:02:35 | solex | or nothing obvious happens and the screen is kind of frozen |
| 00:02:59 | solex | no WPS, but I can change the volume (I can see it in the statusbar |
| 00:03:00 | solex | ) |
| 00:03:03 | DarkkOne | hrm... |
| 00:03:09 | Bagder | matsl: can you make your apps/rockbox.map available for me? |
| 00:04:28 | solex | I am ditching grip right now and encode by hand |
| 00:04:36 | solex | 7.7x :) |
| 00:04:44 | matsl | Bagder: possibly, do you have any suggestion? |
| 00:05:08 | Bagder | mail it to me |
| 00:05:18 | matsl | ok |
| 00:05:51 | solex | it plays! |
| 00:05:55 | solex | wtf!? |
| 00:06:30 | solex | -q6 |
| 00:07:04 | matsl | Bagder: its on its way |
| 00:07:07 | Bagder | got it |
| 00:07:19 | DarkkOne | So, it's something to do with Grip? |
| 00:08:16 | solex | -q8 does also work |
| 00:08:57 | solex | DarkkOne: probably. |
| 00:09:05 | solex | Encoder command line: |
| 00:09:06 | solex | -o %m -a %a -l %d -t %n -q 5 -N %t -G %G -d %y %w |
| 00:09:30 | Bagder | matsl: unfortunately that didn't reveal much, it looks very similar to mine |
| 00:09:37 | solex | -o, -a, -l, -t, -N, -G -d are all tag parameters |
| 00:09:51 | matsl | Bagder: I guess that is good then |
| 00:10:04 | Bagder | well, it works for me ;-) |
| 00:10:21 | DarkkOne | Hrm |
| 00:10:29 | DarkkOne | Yeah, I don't know why that wouldn't work.. |
| 00:12:00 | Bagder | matsl: does this happen regardless of what model you build the sim for? |
| 00:12:42 | matsl | Bagder: only tried recorder and player. any other model I should try? |
| 00:13:07 | Bagder | nah, just wanted to make sure I tested the same here |
| 00:13:57 | matsl | Bagder: according to strace it happens a few system calls after loading libXext |
| 00:14:51 | matsl | so I guess it would affect most simulators |
| 00:15:43 | Bagder | libXext is listed last among the libs when I do 'ldd' on rockboxui |
| 00:16:02 | Bagder | so possibly it happens after all libs are loaded |
| 00:16:23 | matsl | jupp same here |
| 00:16:45 | solex | really strange... files produced by grip still won't play |
| 00:17:10 | solex | beep-media-player has no problemplaying them |
| 00:18:19 | Bagder | matsl: so what are the last function calls it makes? |
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| 00:18:41 | matsl | mprotect(0xb7d16000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 |
| 00:19:08 | matsl | Bagder: really useful info!? ;-) |
| 00:19:17 | Bagder | oh yes ;-) |
| 00:19:19 | Bagder | veeeery |
| 00:20:00 | matsl | then strace adds: −−- SIGFPE (Floating point exception) @ 0 (0) −−- |
| 00:20:40 | solex | fsck it. I'll got to bed now. |
| 00:21:00 | solex | bye and thanks for your help |
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| 00:32:35 | matsl | Bagder: I'm getting another strange thing: in the plugins I get a warning: "creating a DT_TEXTREL in object" |
| 00:32:56 | Bagder | hehe, austriancoder got that too |
| 00:33:04 | Bagder | there's something new and fishy in here |
| 00:33:16 | matsl | gcc version? |
| 00:33:35 | Bagder | I don't know, he seems to have fallen asleep |
| 00:33:39 | austriancoder | gcc version 3.4.4 (Gentoo Hardened 3.4.4, ssp-3.4.4-1.0, pie-8.7.8) |
| 00:33:42 | Bagder | ah |
| 00:33:48 | austriancoder | *g* |
| 00:33:50 | Bagder | I use 4.0.2 here |
| 00:34:14 | matsl | Maybe a gentoo thing? |
| 00:34:46 | austriancoder | hardened thing?! |
| 00:34:52 | Bagder | time to google |
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| 00:35:05 | matsl | no, i'm on gcc (GCC) 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1) |
| 00:35:19 | austriancoder | ah ok |
| 00:36:25 | oijew | hi! im new to rockbox... cool firmware |
| 00:36:46 | Aedaren | How's it going? |
| 00:36:47 | Bagder | oijew: welcome to our sunny corner of the world! |
| 00:36:53 | Aedaren | dir |
| 00:37:27 | oijew | great i just love, so much better from iriver |
| 00:37:34 | austriancoder | matsl, badger: need to go now.. my girlfriend is here... see you later and hope we get ride of it |
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| 00:37:48 | Bagder | −−warn-shared-textrel |
| 00:37:48 | Bagder | Warn if the linker adds a DT_TEXTREL to a shared object. |
| 00:37:58 | Bagder | an ld option |
| 00:38:26 | oijew | will it ever support wma on iriver? is there any way? |
| 00:38:30 | Aedaren | has anyone run into this before when compiling the source: "CONVBDF" /home/me/rockbox/tools/convbdf: command not found |
| 00:38:31 | Aedaren | ? |
| 00:38:40 | Bagder | oijew: sure, if someone writes a fixed-point decoder for it |
| 00:38:53 | Bagder | Aedaren: you ran make in the toold dir? |
| 00:38:56 | Bagder | tools |
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| 00:39:07 | Aedaren | I ran it in my build directory |
| 00:39:08 | ashridah | oijew: porting something like ffmpeg (which supports wma playback) to a non-floating point environment is non-trivial, but possible. |
| 00:39:09 | Aedaren | under rockbox |
| 00:39:15 | ashridah | just don't think anyone's putting in any effort at this time |
| 00:39:24 | oijew | Bagder: and when will that be? |
| 00:39:30 | Aedaren | but I ran tools/configure from that folder too |
| 00:39:43 | Aedaren | am I doing it right? |
| 00:39:50 | Bagder | oijew: when someone does it |
| 00:39:58 | Aedaren | I got it to compile once, but now it doesn't work |
| 00:40:03 | Bagder | Aedaren: you need to run make in the tools dir |
| 00:40:15 | Bagder | oijew: things don't happen by themselves |
| 00:40:32 | Aedaren | right on, got past the error |
| 00:40:34 | Aedaren | thanks |
| 00:40:38 | Bagder | if you ask me, I don't think we will ever see WMA supported in Rockbox |
| 00:41:15 | oijew | but why? its supported in the original firmware... isnt there a way? |
| 00:41:30 | Bagder | aren't you reading? |
| 00:41:32 | Aedaren | it isn't open source, so we'd have to pay for it, right? |
| 00:41:37 | Bagder | oijew: there is a way |
| 00:41:56 | Bagder | I just believe that no one with clues will go that way |
| 00:42:06 | Bagder | feel free to prove me wrong |
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| 00:43:54 | Bagder | matsl: I think the DT_TEXTREL warning is unrelated to the crash though |
| 00:44:34 | oijew | okay thanks.. ill try, good day! |
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| 00:44:39 | matsl | Bagder: yes |
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| 00:45:32 | Aedaren | do you guys know how I can permanently add m68k-elf-gcc version 3.4.4 to my path? The instructions on the wiki say to use export PATH=[m68k path]:$PATH, but every time I reboot cygwin it goes back to versioon 3.3.5 |
| 00:45:52 | Bagder | Aedaren: change the path in the shell setup script |
| 00:46:00 | Bagder | .bash_profile or similar |
| 00:46:05 | Aedaren | which folder? |
| 00:46:10 | Bagder | in your home dir |
| 00:46:15 | Aedaren | thanks |
| 00:51:40 | Aedaren | Can I ask you guys a question? I was talking with Linus earlier today, and he said the iriver keybindings aren't "set in stone." Personally i'm a little annoyed with the short vs long select press ( the joystick pressing in). Do you guys like the keybindings as they are, do you want them completely changed, or would you like an option to change them? |
| 00:52:18 | Bagder | if you come up with a suggestion of a better way to deal with them, I'm sure people will listen |
| 00:52:34 | Aedaren | Just wondering how many people would get mad if they were changed |
| 00:52:36 | Aedaren | ;) |
| 00:52:58 | Bagder | well, you should be prepared to face resistance |
| 00:53:11 | Aedaren | Yeah, that's why I was thinking of just making it customizable somehow |
| 00:53:20 | Aedaren | Or should I beat down my opposition mercilessly? |
| 00:53:46 | Bagder | hehe, your choice really, but you don't get stuff into CVS with violence :-) |
| 00:54:12 | Aedaren | that was a joke :) Just wondering the best way to go about it |
| 00:55:20 | Bagder | write down your suggestion, post it to the mailing list, await the storm |
| 00:55:37 | Bagder | then adjust and loop all over ;-) |
| 00:56:05 | Aedaren | how do you get on the mailing list? |
| 00:56:20 | Bagder | http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox |
| 00:56:57 | Bagder | archives and other lists are here: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/ |
| 00:57:06 | Aedaren | thanks |
| 00:58:09 | Aedaren | do you guys know if the a/b repeat patch works on the h1xx? |
| 00:58:26 | Bagder | I don't think it does |
| 00:58:33 | Aedaren | too bad |
| 00:58:35 | Bagder | but Linus might've worked on it |
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| 01:03:39 | matsl | Bagder: I looked at the gentoo buglist but found nothing. I'll drop this for now. We might get back to it later. |
| 01:03:57 | Bagder | yes, this'll hit more people |
| 01:04:41 | Bagder | matsl: if you get some time off, try a fresh gcc built from source and see if that does the same |
| 01:06:02 | matsl | Bagder: ok. I'll have that in mind. |
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| 01:16:14 | matsl | time 2 go, cu |
| 01:16:19 | Bagder | good night matsl |
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| 01:24:31 | Aedaren | Does anyone know which file I need to edit if I want to change a button mapping for when you are listening to a file, then go to the filetree? |
| 01:24:46 | Aedaren | I want to change which button brings up the menu that lets you queue a song |
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| 01:26:57 | stripwax_ | hello |
| 01:27:21 | stripwax_ | what's new in the world |
| 01:27:39 | Aedaren | I'm lost trying to change rockbox for the first time |
| 01:27:39 | Aedaren | you/ |
| 01:27:40 | Aedaren | ? |
| 01:29:46 | stripwax_ | change it to do what? |
| 01:30:53 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - what is it you're wanting to do? |
| 01:31:22 | Aedaren | let me copy the messege I wrote ealier |
| 01:31:31 | Aedaren | Does anyone know which file I need to edit if I want to change a button mapping for when you are listening to a file, then go to the filetree? |
| 01:32:00 | stripwax_ | Why do you need to change that file |
| 01:32:11 | stripwax_ | (why do you need to change that button mapping, I mean) |
| 01:32:23 | Aedaren | On the iriver, you press select to play a file (which deletes your otf playlist) |
| 01:32:31 | Aedaren | but you have to HOLD select to queue a file |
| 01:32:36 | Aedaren | lots of accidents |
| 01:32:42 | Aedaren | I'm mostly just trying things out though |
| 01:33:12 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - what would you prefer? The button mappings have been discussed at length and the current mappings are what users are mostly happy with, so all new ideas are welcome here! |
| 01:34:00 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - maybe it could be an option ,so that you press the play button to play a single file, or press select to bring up the playlist menu? Maybe that could be a config option! |
| 01:34:14 | stripwax_ | (instead of select to play a single fine, I mean) |
| 01:35:05 | Aedaren | Well, people like Select opening a file, so I thought I'd swap hold SELECT and hold A/B |
| 01:35:15 | Aedaren | hold A/B brings up that quick menu with the shuffle options |
| 01:35:25 | Aedaren | that would prevent any problems from occuring |
| 01:35:59 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - you mean hold A/B to bring up the playlist menu instead? if so how would you bring up that quickmenu |
| 01:36:41 | Aedaren | hold select |
| 01:36:47 | Aedaren | just switch the two |
| 01:36:57 | Aedaren | what do you think? |
| 01:37:45 | stripwax_ | understood. if so, that should definitely be configurable. (For example, I'd prefer SELECT to automatically bring up just the playlist option on the playlist menu) |
| 01:38:10 | Aedaren | yeah that would be very cool to be able to put in the config file |
| 01:38:16 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - not sure about how to make that configurable in an ideal world - but for trying things out you probably want to look at apps/wps.h |
| 01:38:37 | Aedaren | does wps.h also control when you exit the wps by hitting select? |
| 01:38:43 | Aedaren | (while the music is still playing?) |
| 01:38:48 | stripwax_ | e.g. WPS_BROWSE = (BUTTON_SELECT | BUTTON_REL) to pop up the browser |
| 01:39:21 | stripwax_ | as for the keys while you're IN the browser, check out apps/tree.h |
| 01:39:57 | Aedaren | thanks |
| 01:40:03 | Aedaren | Is anyone working on this right now? |
| 01:40:08 | Aedaren | (Dont' want to step on his toes) |
| 01:40:17 | stripwax_ | e.g. TREE_RUN = BUTTON_SELECT | BUTTON_REL; and TREE_CONTEXT = BUTTON_SELECT | BUTTON_REPEAT (i.e. hold) |
| 01:40:23 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - not that I'm aware of. |
| 01:40:35 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - if you could make it configurable you would rock my box |
| 01:40:46 | Aedaren | alright, I'll see what I can do... How do you reference the config file from one of these headers? |
| 01:41:18 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - that's the thing - you won't be able to do it that way. You'd have to change the C file (tree.c or wps.c) to do a lookup in the config, instead of using the numbers in the header files. |
| 01:41:29 | stripwax_ | It's not trivial. But it really shouldn't be very difficult either |
| 01:42:04 | stripwax_ | I don't know my way around rockbox code well enough myself - not sure how to query the config info |
| 01:42:18 | Aedaren | that's fine |
| 01:42:26 | Aedaren | Do you know of a file that has a good example? |
| 01:42:34 | stripwax_ | lemme take a look.. |
| 01:42:48 | Aedaren | *Just made my first change to the code... in the chessclock* |
| 01:43:00 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - :-) what's the change |
| 01:43:36 | Aedaren | I removed the reset function from the Iriver... I was trying to use the chessclock over the weekend, and the person doing it kept pressing the joystick in instead of hitting NEXT |
| 01:43:40 | Aedaren | it reset each time |
| 01:43:44 | Aedaren | We had to give up the game |
| 01:43:47 | stripwax_ | apps/settings.c seems to have all the stuff you need - not yet sure how to *use* it but should be straightforward |
| 01:43:58 | stripwax_ | Aedaren - hehe. |
| 01:46:34 | stripwax_ | As for *using* options - I guess firmware/drivers/lcd-h100.c should have plenty of examples in it (e.g. all the bidirectional scrolling options stuff) |
| 01:48:36 | Aedaren | thanks, you're quite helpful |
| 01:48:39 | Aedaren | I've got to go now |
| 01:48:54 | stripwax_ | see ya |
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| 02:36:18 | Stryke` | been quiet lately |
| 02:43:07 | Stryke` | im amazed the often-reported lagging bug has lasted as long as it has |
| 02:44:17 | stripwax | yeah.. it's kinda been around for ever, in one form or other (if you're meaning the way that holding down up/down on wps causing everything to slllooowww dowwwnnn) |
| 02:44:24 | Stryke` | yes |
| 02:46:32 | stripwax | maybe it should just not buffer all those events - (i'm guessing it's doing that, anyway..) |
| 02:46:56 | Stryke` | i have no doubt that it will be resolved, even if it must wait for slasheri to return |
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| 07:31:37 | jpegreen | Anyone here using linux |
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| 07:35:44 | jpegreen | Hey seriously I am looking to change over to linux solely from a dual boot system and would like someones opinion whats better... Redhat, Fedora Core 4 or Debian.... or what is your flavor of choice and why? |
| 07:37:56 | Coldtoast | Debian out of those |
| 07:38:48 | Coldtoast | I've not used it but I know the other 2, ESPECIALLY FC4, are bloated |
| 07:40:12 | jpegreen | Coldtoast: what are you using? |
| 07:40:21 | Coldtoast | heh. Mandriva |
| 07:40:43 | Coldtoast | a lot of ppl dislike it tho cos it uses rpm |
| 07:41:12 | Coldtoast | I come from a Windows world tho, so it's easier for me |
| 07:41:22 | jpegreen | I have a dual boot system running Mandrake 9.2 and Windows XP pro I am a little tired of the rpm proccess |
| 07:41:41 | Coldtoast | yeah. ppl don't much like rpm |
| 07:42:11 | Coldtoast | I have a new vid card on the way tho and have 4 HDDs in this system |
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| 07:43:02 | jpegreen | I have gotten the gambit from "You should use Linspire" :( to use Slackware and I am overwhelmed |
| 07:43:03 | Coldtoast | so once that arrives, I have to reorganise what's in my machine so I can give the new card it's own power with nothing else on the same set of rails |
| 07:43:22 | Coldtoast | there's ARE too many f*cking dists out there |
| 07:44:01 | Coldtoast | and ppl will push whatever their fave dist is like madmen. Accordign to them, everything but the one they favour is TERRIBLE |
| 07:44:10 | jpegreen | Well I don't agree there each distro is good in its own way but picking one is a pain in the a$$ |
| 07:44:22 | Coldtoast | you don't need LITERALLY dozens of them tho |
| 07:44:26 | Coldtoast | and there ARE dozens |
| 07:45:23 | jpegreen | Just for the intel machine and then dozens more for the other machines out there |
| 07:45:27 | Coldtoast | but life's all about choice and you sure do have that with Linux, at least |
| 07:46:14 | Coldtoast | I'd SO love to switch to Linus completely |
| 07:46:25 | Coldtoast | but there are things I just HAVE to use Windows for |
| 07:46:43 | Coldtoast | and the vid card I'm gettign would be completely wasted in Linux |
| 07:47:17 | Coldtoast | err... Linus=Linux, btw. heh |
| 07:47:48 | jpegreen | I have set up a fedora core 4 machine and a Redhat 9 machine but am having problems setting up a debian machineto try each of the distros and I am not sure which one of these are going to do exactly what I want though they all will do them which one is the best at doing it is still up for debait |
| 07:48:24 | QT | moin |
| 07:49:19 | jpegreen | QT: what OS are you using? |
| 07:49:38 | QT | $ uname -rs |
| 07:49:38 | QT | Linux 2.4.28 |
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| 07:49:46 | QT | on thix box here |
| 07:49:54 | QT | it is a Debian Woody install |
| 07:50:13 | QT | the 'oldstable' that had been recplaced recently with Sarge |
| 07:50:24 | jpegreen | So you like the Debian distro\ |
| 07:50:39 | QT | yes, very much! using it since a couple of years |
| 07:50:48 | QT | made me switch from redhat linux to debian |
| 07:52:12 | jpegreen | I have the sarge distro and am ready to set it up an a machine and am having problems... Downloaded the Binary and haven't been able to figure out how to get it to work |
| 07:52:27 | QT | hmm |
| 07:52:35 | QT | shouldn't be too difficult |
| 07:52:47 | QT | boot from the CD and hit a few times return. that is usually it ;) |
| 07:53:32 | jpegreen | I know but I am for some reason I can't get it to work the files maybe corrupt and I should just redownload the source |
| 07:53:48 | QT | sounds like |
| 07:53:54 | QT | you have fast internet connection? |
| 07:54:07 | QT | i would encourage you to only download the netinstall ISO |
| 07:54:29 | QT | it is about 100MB and just contains the installer and the base system. all the packages will be downloaded on request from the net during install |
| 07:54:42 | QT | just download it and put it on a CDRW |
| 07:55:09 | jpegreen | I am Dling the woody install disk right now |
| 07:55:19 | QT | no, don't use woody |
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| 07:55:30 | QT | it does not detect hardware automatically as the Sarge installer does |
| 07:55:30 | Bger | hi all |
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| 07:55:43 | QT | moin Bger |
| 07:55:53 | Bger | very rainy morning ... |
| 07:56:20 | QT | rather a rainy weekday than a rainy weekend day :-) |
| 07:56:22 | jpegreen | Aqren't yopu using woody? |
| 07:56:53 | QT | jpegreen: i do but only because this install (my router and firewall actually) is kinda old. installed some years ago.... |
| 07:57:05 | QT | on a new system i would vote for the current stable version |
| 07:57:08 | QT | and that is Sarge |
| 07:57:50 | jpegreen | Ok |
| 07:58:21 | jpegreen | Let me ask you this what exactly was it that made you choose Debian? |
| 07:59:02 | QT | it can be upgraded during operation and it is the only distro that can upgrade properly between major versions |
| 07:59:41 | QT | before i used redhat and every new release was a pain to upgrade to |
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| 08:00:08 | QT | also redhat was at the point of time not "open" enough and they focused too much on US requirements |
| 08:00:15 | jpegreen | So more uptime is good since you don't have to reboot during upgrade? |
| 08:00:28 | QT | for example: try to do ISDN with Redhat. a pure nightmare (at least 10 years ago) |
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| 08:00:42 | QT | jpegreen: exactly |
| 08:01:02 | QT | and more over there is a foreseen (shell) process for upgrading |
| 08:01:30 | QT | other distros do not even know something like that. all they can offer is to let you boot from the CD and choose upgrade and then pray all will be working |
| 08:01:56 | jpegreen | This is exactly my problem since I am an admin for a web dev team ... I want to keep my system running for as long as possible with the least amount of down time and rebooting causes down time |
| 08:02:06 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 08:02:13 | QT | so i like to keep control on the shell and do not hand-over to some upgrade process which is unknown what it will do |
| 08:02:27 | QT | jpegreen: then debian is what you want! |
| 08:02:39 | * | Bger plans to start a new wiki page regarding future USB-OTG support in Rockbox |
| 08:02:40 | QT | use debian stable on this box as the release cycle is usually long |
| 08:02:41 | jpegreen | I am trying to show my boss that linux would be a better solution than the Windows sertver that we are using at this time |
| 08:02:57 | QT | usb-otg sounds great bger |
| 08:03:18 | QT | jpegreen: with debian stable you get a new version every 3 or 4 years |
| 08:03:35 | QT | so you can run the same OS for quite some time and can spend your time on important things |
| 08:03:45 | QT | or more important things |
| 08:04:06 | jpegreen | This is good |
| 08:04:23 | QT | for a server yes. for a desktop probably not |
| 08:05:51 | jpegreen | I am setting up three machines running three distros and I will see which ones are best for what and use the right ones for the right jobs.... As my father once told me use the right tools for the job |
| 08:06:18 | QT | exactly |
| 08:06:18 | jpegreen | Debian sounds like the right tool for the server job |
| 08:07:12 | jpegreen | If I could use Debian for all jobs it would be great since all systems would be from a free"dom" based OS |
| 08:07:18 | jpegreen | No more windows |
| 08:07:31 | QT | it probably has a steeper learning curve at the beginning but this will serve you well in the long run |
| 08:09:42 | jpegreen | I have been running both Windows at work and a dual boot system at home.. Windows XP pro and Mandrake 9.2 for the last 3 years so running a linux system should not be a problem I don't think? |
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| 08:10:02 | Cka3ka | hey hey |
| 08:10:05 | Cka3ka | anyone around |
| 08:10:06 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 08:10:09 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 08:10:13 | Cka3ka | wassup |
| 08:10:21 | Cka3ka | you on the production team? =-) |
| 08:10:32 | DreamTactix291 | nope |
| 08:10:35 | jpegreen | Qt: is there a steep learning curve between Mandrake 9.2 and Debian |
| 08:10:41 | Cka3ka | nope |
| 08:10:47 | Cka3ka | i used mandrake 10 for quite a bit |
| 08:10:57 | QT | jpegreen: well, on the admin side yes. on the pure user side no |
| 08:11:01 | Cka3ka | it was ok till i had to formatt and got too lazy to install |
| 08:11:34 | QT | jpegreen: you should get used to the package tool as quick as possible and then everything is quite easy IMO |
| 08:11:36 | Cka3ka | if hes gonna be using it for admin, the learning curve shouldnt scare him away ;-) |
| 08:11:43 | jpegreen | What is the difference on the Admin side? |
| 08:11:50 | QT | Cka3ka: nobody said that |
| 08:12:05 | QT | jpegreen: well, every distro has its way to do things |
| 08:12:19 | jpegreen | Yep this is true |
| 08:12:19 | QT | and you need to learn the debian way in order to use it efficiently |
| 08:12:27 | Cka3ka | speaking of linux, whats going on with those patents? |
| 08:12:30 | QT | so this is about the learning curve |
| 08:12:38 | QT | which patents? |
| 08:12:41 | jpegreen | Got you |
| 08:12:42 | Cka3ka | european? |
| 08:12:51 | Cka3ka | the whole eu being a pain |
| 08:13:02 | jpegreen | whois trying to patent Linux? |
| 08:13:11 | Cka3ka | not pattent linux |
| 08:13:15 | Cka3ka | make software pattentable |
| 08:13:23 | Cka3ka | hence making linux practically illegal |
| 08:13:29 | jpegreen | What a$$es |
| 08:13:30 | QT | that is not true |
| 08:13:38 | QT | why should linux be illegal> |
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| 08:13:38 | Cka3ka | you know it is, it kills all guis |
| 08:13:45 | jpegreen | that's what I thought |
| 08:13:53 | jpegreen | Sounds really stupid |
| 08:14:04 | Cka3ka | yea large companies make money that way |
| 08:14:05 | QT | if i download linux from some server in china i do not need to care about european law |
| 08:14:14 | Cka3ka | but |
| 08:14:20 | Cka3ka | linux is being developed in europe |
| 08:14:29 | Cka3ka | far as i know |
| 08:14:32 | QT | that does not matter |
| 08:14:39 | Cka3ka | and will stop doing so if those patents come through |
| 08:14:39 | jpegreen | Linux is being developed everywhere... DUH |
| 08:14:42 | QT | i guess key is where it is distributed |
| 08:14:55 | Cka3ka | guys hold up ill pull up the web |
| 08:15:00 | Cka3ka | im surprised you havnt heard of this |
| 08:15:04 | QT | the patents will rather hit small software companies than the linux development |
| 08:15:09 | Cka3ka | i havnt been following the news too much |
| 08:15:18 | QT | i am a supporting member of FFII.org |
| 08:15:35 | jpegreen | The GPL and GNU licenses make development legal every where |
| 08:16:06 | QT | development can't be prosecuted anyway. only distribution |
| 08:16:43 | Cka3ka | "With a truly overwhelming majority the EU parliament has rejected the proposed software patent directive last week." |
| 08:16:52 | Cka3ka | sorry lolm, havnt been stick with the news =-) |
| 08:16:57 | QT | :) |
| 08:16:59 | Cka3ka | that happened in july |
| 08:17:00 | Cka3ka | so its all good |
| 08:17:10 | Cka3ka | but no man, mplayer was about to get shut down |
| 08:17:18 | QT | the key voting in the EU parliament will happen soon |
| 08:17:23 | Cka3ka | it does stop both development and distro |
| 08:17:25 | jpegreen | I have a friend that has done a lot of research on this and the development and distrobution of "LINUX" is covered by the GNU and The GPL in all countries all over the world |
| 08:17:39 | Cka3ka | not the point |
| 08:17:39 | Cka3ka | look |
| 08:17:45 | Cka3ka | companies like microsoft |
| 08:17:46 | Cka3ka | and apple |
| 08:17:50 | QT | jpegreen: if there is code that violates some patent then the GPL won't help |
| 08:17:59 | Cka3ka | can say, that "taskbar" is ours, pay to use it |
| 08:18:04 | Cka3ka | or that icon |
| 08:18:11 | Cka3ka | and since all the gui's are so similar |
| 08:18:22 | Cka3ka | as well as programming in general |
| 08:18:26 | QT | i know |
| 08:18:38 | Cka3ka | it can be innovative, but still retain some small resembalance |
| 08:18:43 | Cka3ka | and then be stopped |
| 08:18:57 | Cka3ka | im glad this didnt pass, though in the long run i feel its bad for us |
| 08:19:12 | jpegreen | This is true buit on the base level of the LINUX distro no the other apps that run on it the GPL does cover it |
| 08:19:26 | Cka3ka | gpl covers almost nothing |
| 08:19:48 | Cka3ka | a large company can shut down a linux distro the very SECOND there are patent laws |
| 08:19:53 | Cka3ka | software patent* |
| 08:20:05 | Cka3ka | the thing is |
| 08:20:13 | Cka3ka | its like we're kicking ourselves while going through this |
| 08:20:15 | Cka3ka | cus for now |
| 08:20:18 | Cka3ka | its horrible |
| 08:20:21 | jpegreen | I am going to disagree |
| 08:20:26 | Cka3ka | cus it stunts developmnet |
| 08:20:31 | Cka3ka | lemme finish the idea ;-) |
| 08:20:43 | Cka3ka | if we patent software now, it stunts development |
| 08:20:57 | Cka3ka | and hence we dont get as far ahead in terms of technology |
| 08:20:58 | Cka3ka | but |
| 08:21:04 | Cka3ka | if we dont put them into place, |
| 08:21:14 | Cka3ka | the whole economic side will be stunted |
| 08:21:16 | Cka3ka | in the future |
| 08:21:21 | Cka3ka | and as much as i understand this |
| 08:21:27 | jpegreen | GPL covers accordingt o my friend that is a technology dev lawer the base systems of LINUX for distro and developement |
| 08:21:43 | Cka3ka | and see that im probably gonna end up working at some big company, cursing at a lack of software pattents that stop money from coming in |
| 08:21:49 | Cka3ka | it just seems so far off to not matter |
| 08:22:08 | Cka3ka | dude, software patents are above that |
| 08:22:22 | Cka3ka | the reason gpl works is cus software pattents dont exist |
| 08:22:31 | Cka3ka | at least in europe |
| 08:22:38 | Cka3ka | you hear of any distros being made in the us? |
| 08:22:48 | Cka3ka | like based in us, im not saying a few programmers |
| 08:22:52 | Cka3ka | not likley |
| 08:22:52 | jpegreen | Or in china etc. but what does that matter |
| 08:23:05 | Cka3ka | because thats where people live man |
| 08:23:22 | Cka3ka | youre not gonna move to china or africa to work on linux |
| 08:23:24 | Cka3ka | btw |
| 08:23:25 | Cka3ka | about china |
| 08:23:26 | QT | Cka3ka: redhat linux |
| 08:23:27 | jpegreen | People live everywhere |
| 08:23:28 | Cka3ka | you know whats funny? |
| 08:23:36 | Cka3ka | really? red hat is us based? didnt know that |
| 08:23:41 | QT | yes |
| 08:23:47 | jpegreen | Yeop Redhat is deved in the US |
| 08:23:49 | Cka3ka | hmm, wonder how that works |
| 08:23:57 | QT | even listed on the US stock exchange |
| 08:24:01 | Cka3ka | hmm |
| 08:24:03 | QT | i guess in the NASDAQ |
| 08:24:18 | Cka3ka | how do they coexist with the patents here? |
| 08:24:24 | Cka3ka | why hasnt microsoft and or apple sued? |
| 08:24:33 | jpegreen | IBM and Dell are suprting th e Development of Redhat |
| 08:24:41 | Cka3ka | ah thats it* |
| 08:24:42 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 08:25:14 | Cka3ka | but yea man about china |
| 08:25:18 | Cka3ka | i have a friend going there |
| 08:25:27 | Cka3ka | she says its illegal to bring in printed material |
| 08:25:37 | Cka3ka | and funniest shit ever, their internet is cesored |
| 08:25:41 | Cka3ka | like the whole country |
| 08:25:47 | Cka3ka | a buddy told me about it |
| 08:25:58 | Coldtoast | well, I dunno about that |
| 08:25:58 | jpegreen | Microcrack and Apple haven't sued because the law states that though simular in apperance they are based on different technology |
| 08:26:03 | Coldtoast | I'd want to check those "facts" |
| 08:26:04 | Cka3ka | you make a search on say google, and it says "blocked by the republic of china" |
| 08:26:06 | QT | i was once offered to work in china which i refused |
| 08:26:13 | QT | don't wanna go there |
| 08:26:30 | Cka3ka | hehehe |
| 08:26:52 | DreamTactix291 | only reason to go to china is steal a wife and leave :P |
| 08:26:53 | Cka3ka | <Coldtoast> which? |
| 08:27:00 | Cka3ka | hahahaha |
| 08:27:22 | Coldtoast | both: the all-censored internet thing and the not-allowed-to-take-printed-material thing |
| 08:27:27 | Cka3ka | yea lotsa stuff about china scares me, thas why i get my friends to go there and get me cheap shit |
| 08:27:47 | Cka3ka | nah man i got people there now that told me about that |
| 08:27:56 | Coldtoast | well, I'll ask somebody here |
| 08:28:01 | QT | i did then go to RoC China aka Taiwan and worked there |
| 08:28:10 | Cka3ka | its funny cus its true =-) my friend jose cant do her history summer assignment cus she cant take the book |
| 08:28:12 | QT | guess a lot better than the PoC |
| 08:28:32 | Cka3ka | yep |
| 08:28:33 | Cka3ka | much |
| 08:28:47 | QT | still i wouldn't do it again |
| 08:28:52 | Cka3ka | hahaha |
| 08:28:55 | QT | a strange and very different world |
| 08:29:06 | Cka3ka | deffinatly, i been to far east russia |
| 08:29:10 | Cka3ka | that shit is scary |
| 08:29:27 | Cka3ka | not like good 'ole dirty moscow and awesome stpeters =-) |
| 08:29:36 | jpegreen | The freedoms of ppl in china are definitely in queston but the freedom of software is better than the people sad huh? |
| 08:29:48 | QT | yeahm, wouldn't go their either but with the finger on the map :-) |
| 08:29:50 | Cka3ka | sad but funny =-) |
| 08:30:00 | Cka3ka | hahah QT it was fun |
| 08:30:05 | Cka3ka | i mrussian so its fine |
| 08:30:09 | Cka3ka | i actually cant go back |
| 08:30:11 | QT | i see |
| 08:30:13 | Cka3ka | might get my ass drafted |
| 08:30:15 | Cka3ka | yay! |
| 08:30:24 | Cka3ka | same reason i cant go to israel in 2 years |
| 08:30:27 | QT | i am currently dealing with some guys from moscow |
| 08:30:27 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 08:30:54 | jpegreen | I have been to georgia russia in 89 I thought it was actually pretty nice.... the people any way |
| 08:30:56 | Coldtoast | Russians are ALWAYS trying to sell you stuff |
| 08:31:08 | Cka3ka | hahahaha |
| 08:31:09 | Coldtoast | it's funny |
| 08:31:11 | Cka3ka | depends |
| 08:31:17 | QT | and i like allofmp3.com a lot :-D |
| 08:31:26 | Coldtoast | it's the freemarket economy mentality |
| 08:32:06 | Cka3ka | man |
| 08:32:12 | Coldtoast | it's also my experience that Slavic ppl and Russians ce tend to be racist |
| 08:32:22 | Cka3ka | <QT> all of mp3=costs money=not cool =-)... all about isohunt.com |
| 08:32:38 | Cka3ka | <Coldtoast> hahahaha so very very true |
| 08:32:43 | Coldtoast | screw allofmp3.com. use www.delit.net |
| 08:32:53 | QT | it is convenient! 3 clicks and i have 1 album and i like the choice of quality |
| 08:32:54 | Cka3ka | isohunt.com is where its at |
| 08:33:03 | Cka3ka | and you pay mone |
| 08:33:52 | QT | so delit.net and isohunt.com is better? |
| 08:33:59 | DreamTactix291 | i think i'm the only person left who buys CDs :| |
| 08:34:14 | QT | i haven't bought one since years |
| 08:34:18 | QT | all i buy are music DVDs |
| 08:34:28 | Cka3ka | hehehe |
| 08:34:29 | Coldtoast | I pay for high speed internet acces and I download music. So I'm paying for music |
| 08:34:30 | Coldtoast | heheh |
| 08:34:34 | Cka3ka | nah man i buy cds when its worth it |
| 08:34:41 | Cka3ka | and delit i just checked out |
| 08:34:43 | QT | and i like that i can record them to MP3 using line-in of the iriver :-) |
| 08:34:44 | Cka3ka | it costs money too |
| 08:34:54 | Cka3ka | i love the iriver =-) |
| 08:34:58 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 08:35:03 | Cka3ka | i have one too |
| 08:35:03 | QT | yep. me too |
| 08:35:08 | Cka3ka | isohunt.com - torrent |
| 08:35:12 | QT | have one since 2 years |
| 08:35:15 | Coldtoast | delit costs money or you can download for free, but with restrictions |
| 08:35:15 | Cka3ka | like suprnova.org in its time |
| 08:35:27 | DreamTactix291 | well i'm a lossless fan so i buy a lot of my own stuff and do my own rips |
| 08:35:44 | Coldtoast | last time I used it, you could only download one track at a tme or something |
| 08:35:46 | Cka3ka | man demo isnt the same |
| 08:35:51 | Cka3ka | its loq quality |
| 08:36:00 | Cka3ka | low* |
| 08:36:01 | QT | guys, i am off for a smoke. see you in a while |
| 08:36:05 | Cka3ka | cy |
| 08:36:06 | Cka3ka | a |
| 08:36:06 | Cka3ka | enjoy |
| 08:36:07 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Cka3ka |
| 08:36:07 | Cka3ka | it |
| 08:36:09 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 08:36:19 | Cka3ka | isohunt.com is where its at |
| 08:36:31 | Cka3ka | im gonna hit the saczzzZZZZZzzzz |
| 08:36:33 | Cka3ka | night ;-0 |
| 08:36:44 | Coldtoast | \I DO buy DVDs but never buy CDs |
| 08:36:53 | Coldtoast | I also don't really download music |
| 08:36:55 | Coldtoast | rarely do |
| 08:36:58 | Cka3ka | you should at times |
| 08:36:59 | Cka3ka | ah |
| 08:37:07 | Cka3ka | i buy cds rarley, when its really good |
| 08:37:16 | Cka3ka | btw you a santana fan |
| 08:37:16 | Coldtoast | CDs are such HORRIBLE HORRIBLE value for money here |
| 08:37:17 | Cka3ka | ? |
| 08:37:23 | Coldtoast | me? |
| 08:37:23 | Cka3ka | here=wherE? |
| 08:37:26 | Cka3ka | yea |
| 08:37:29 | Coldtoast | I f*cking HATE Santana |
| 08:37:31 | Cka3ka | woa |
| 08:37:33 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 08:37:36 | Cka3ka | what do you listen to |
| 08:37:41 | Coldtoast | he';s #1 on my list of most irritating guitarists |
| 08:37:45 | Cka3ka | hahahaha |
| 08:37:48 | Cka3ka | i like em |
| 08:37:52 | Cka3ka | who do you like |
| 08:37:54 | Coldtoast | I listen to a lot of podcasts actually |
| 08:38:01 | Cka3ka | hes like #3 after page |
| 08:38:15 | Cka3ka | gotta love page |
| 08:38:19 | Coldtoast | you're listening to the wrong guitarists I think :) |
| 08:38:30 | Cka3ka | you dont like page?! |
| 08:38:33 | jpegreen | Coldtoast: what do you think of Striani |
| 08:38:43 | Coldtoast | rock guitarists don't really interest me much |
| 08:38:48 | jpegreen | OOPs Satriani |
| 08:38:54 | Coldtoast | Satriani is ok at what he does |
| 08:39:02 | Cka3ka | ahhh thats why |
| 08:39:10 | Cka3ka | what kind of guitarists do you like? |
| 08:39:11 | jpegreen | How about Jimi Hendrix? |
| 08:39:14 | Coldtoast | I'd listen to Gilmore over ANY of them tho |
| 08:39:15 | Cka3ka | ewww |
| 08:39:25 | Cka3ka | i like his music but a good guitarist he is not |
| 08:39:26 | jpegreen | UuuuuuuuuugH |
| 08:39:40 | Coldtoast | here's what you should be listening to tho |
| 08:39:40 | Cka3ka | (hendrix i was talking about) |
| 08:40:00 | Coldtoast | try and track down Michael Hedges and Leo Kottke |
| 08:40:06 | Coldtoast | Tuck Andress as well |
| 08:40:10 | Cka3ka | send it to me |
| 08:40:10 | Coldtoast | Slava Gregoria |
| 08:40:13 | jpegreen | No boby should be listening to anythng but what they like[ |
| 08:40:14 | Cka3ka | send me some? |
| 08:40:32 | Coldtoast | I'll send you a Hedges track |
| 08:40:38 | Cka3ka | <Coldtoast> zip/rar some of your favs, like 10 or so and send em over |
| 08:40:39 | Coldtoast | time for some edumacation, young man |
| 08:40:40 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 08:40:43 | Cka3ka | hahaha |
| 08:40:44 | jpegreen | Micheal Hedges WAS great |
| 08:40:45 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 08:40:53 | Coldtoast | he IS great jpegreen |
| 08:40:59 | Coldtoast | just cos he's dead is meaningless |
| 08:41:17 | jpegreen | True but ... Is he still with us? |
| 08:41:58 | Coldtoast | hell yeah |
| 08:42:06 | jpegreen | You have a point |
| 08:42:25 | jpegreen | Coldtoast: where are you located |
| 08:42:29 | Coldtoast | nobody, but NOBODY sounds like Hedges did |
| 08:42:32 | Coldtoast | Australia |
| 08:42:43 | Coldtoast | DCC doesn't work Cka3ka |
| 08:42:46 | jpegreen | Did you ever get o see him? |
| 08:42:48 | Coldtoast | oh. there it goes |
| 08:42:52 | Cka3ka | sorry |
| 08:42:54 | Cka3ka | i was browsing |
| 08:42:57 | Cka3ka | <<slow |
| 08:42:58 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 08:43:00 | Coldtoast | no. A friend did tho. In Japan |
| 08:43:04 | Cka3ka | man send me a few songs =-) |
| 08:43:05 | jpegreen | I did and I met him here in Seattle where he lived |
| 08:43:16 | Cka3ka | hold up guys how about fripp? |
| 08:43:19 | Coldtoast | I've seen vids of him in his friend's back yard tho, just playing guitar |
| 08:43:36 | Coldtoast | that would have been pretty damned awesome |
| 08:43:43 | Cka3ka | yo guys |
| 08:43:47 | jpegreen | What did you think of his harp guitar? |
| 08:43:49 | Cka3ka | what do you think of fripp? |
| 08:43:52 | Coldtoast | loved it |
| 08:44:06 | Cka3ka | cold: fripp? |
| 08:44:07 | Coldtoast | 'm sending Cka3ka "Ragamuffin" |
| 08:44:12 | jpegreen | He was probably the greatest of our time? |
| 08:44:23 | jpegreen | Ooooooops no "?" |
| 08:44:28 | Coldtoast | I think certainly the most unique |
| 08:44:37 | Cka3ka | yo whats with your speed man |
| 08:44:41 | Cka3ka | why is it going 9kbps |
| 08:44:53 | Cka3ka | i have cable, it should be going 100+ |
| 08:44:56 | Coldtoast | cos it's the internet? |
| 08:44:58 | Cka3ka | whats with your up speed? |
| 08:45:13 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 08:45:18 | Coldtoast | I only have 256kbit up, but that should theoretically be 25KB/sec |
| 08:45:22 | Coldtoast | BUT it's the internet |
| 08:45:35 | Cka3ka | <Coldtoast> you heard of robert fripp? |
| 08:45:40 | Coldtoast | I have |
| 08:45:44 | Cka3ka | thoguhts? |
| 08:45:45 | Coldtoast | not heard any of his stuff tho |
| 08:45:47 | Cka3ka | thoughts* |
| 08:45:49 | Cka3ka | ahh |
| 08:45:54 | Cka3ka | king crimson=his stuff |
| 08:46:05 | Cka3ka | lemme send a song....tell me how, im not usually a mirc user |
| 08:46:06 | Coldtoast | I know a lot of ppl get off on Chet Atkins but I FAR prefer Hedges |
| 08:46:14 | Cka3ka | i have some atkins |
| 08:46:17 | Cka3ka | me no like much |
| 08:46:50 | Coldtoast | Cka3ka: with this track, remember it's recorded with no overdubbing at all. This is exactly how Hedges played it |
| 08:47:10 | Coldtoast | one person, one track |
| 08:47:57 | Cka3ka | i dunno man i hope you like tis |
| 08:48:02 | Cka3ka | i love this song |
| 08:48:16 | Coldtoast | the deep bass notes you hear are cos he uses a harp guitar |
| 08:48:28 | | Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) |
| 08:48:50 | jpegreen | That was probably his greatest asset |
| 08:48:51 | Cka3ka | shit gotta dump on my iriver |
| 08:49:03 | Cka3ka | no spkrs allowed, rentsd sleeping |
| 08:49:10 | jpegreen | Which track did you send hom |
| 08:49:16 | jpegreen | hom= him |
| 08:50:03 | Coldtoast | jpegreen: there are a few things about Hedges that set hjim apart I think: he's a very percussive guitarist and I've never heard ANYBODY who could use artificial harmonics like him |
| 08:50:06 | Coldtoast | Ragamuffin |
| 08:50:11 | Coldtoast | one of my faves |
| 08:50:24 | Cka3ka | i sent a second song |
| 08:50:24 | Cka3ka | dont cancle first |
| 08:50:32 | Cka3ka | jus second really shows his guitar |
| 08:50:34 | Cka3ka | and first is js an amazing song |
| 08:50:43 | Coldtoast | it's a bit more contemporary that some of his stuff but a good first track to hear I think |
| 08:51:05 | Coldtoast | also Bensusan |
| 08:51:54 | Coldtoast | were you much of a fan before you saw him in concert? |
| 08:51:59 | jpegreen | there is nothing like what Hedges did but there is a young woman who is an awesome guitarist and I will tell you her name in just a moment |
| 08:52:22 | Cka3ka | heheheh this is so different from what i currently listen to |
| 08:52:27 | Coldtoast | my fave Hedges album would have to be Live On The Double Planet |
| 08:52:47 | Cka3ka | i have some music like this, in terms of acoustic styles, i prefer flamenco |
| 08:53:06 | Cka3ka | how old are you guys? |
| 08:53:10 | Coldtoast | 32 |
| 08:53:19 | Cka3ka | aha that explains it ;-) |
| 08:53:27 | Cka3ka | how old do you think i am ;-) |
| 08:53:30 | jpegreen | KAKI KING is the young girls name and she is awesome |
| 08:53:42 | Coldtoast | see, Michael Hedges could fingerpick with one hand while tapping with the other. And plya 2 completely independent parts simultaneously |
| 08:53:51 | Coldtoast | I think you're 19 |
| 08:54:00 | Cka3ka | 16 =-) |
| 08:54:10 | jpegreen | Coldtoast check her out |
| 08:54:15 | Coldtoast | I WAS going to say 17 actually. but ppl get pissed if you're wrong :) |
| 08:54:16 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 08:54:19 | Cka3ka | hahaha |
| 08:54:20 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 08:54:24 | jpegreen | 32 |
| 08:54:31 | Cka3ka | nah i dont mind, i have the maturity of a 12 year old at times |
| 08:54:40 | Coldtoast | hey. same age as me jpegreen |
| 08:54:46 | Cka3ka | hate people that act older then they are |
| 08:54:53 | Coldtoast | maybe Hedges is a generational thing? heh |
| 08:54:58 | Cka3ka | ...unless its to get into a club or get alcohol :-D |
| 08:54:59 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 08:55:15 | Cka3ka | man that was beautifull, but so not what i generally listen to |
| 08:55:25 | Coldtoast | another guy I know in the US is 34 and he ADORES Hedges as well |
| 08:55:37 | Coldtoast | this sounds ok Cka3ka. A bit simple fo rme tho, to be honest |
| 08:56:01 | Cka3ka | to each his own |
| 08:56:02 | Cka3ka | ;-) |
| 08:56:06 | Coldtoast | definitely |
| 08:56:06 | Cka3ka | i prefer rock guitar |
| 08:56:10 | jpegreen | Coldtoast check out www.kakiking.com |
| 08:56:11 | Coldtoast | listen to that second track I sent |
| 08:56:19 | DreamTactix291 | i think john petrucci is my favourite guitarist |
| 08:56:24 | Cka3ka | give me a sec ig otta hook up iriver again |
| 08:56:33 | Coldtoast | Petrucci is sure FAST! |
| 08:56:40 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 08:57:00 | Coldtoast | I have one of his instructional vids where he teaches you to play at 230bps. hehe |
| 08:57:11 | DreamTactix291 | hehe |
| 08:57:17 | Cka3ka | i can see why you guys dont like santana |
| 08:57:20 | Cka3ka | but its different |
| 08:57:25 | Cka3ka | its elec first of all |
| 08:57:36 | Cka3ka | i started playing classical a while back |
| 08:57:40 | Cka3ka | and got so sick of it |
| 08:57:53 | Coldtoast | heh. I DO liek this jpegreen |
| 08:57:55 | Cka3ka | i always cant wait to get my hands on my friends strat or gibson |
| 08:58:08 | DreamTactix291 | i have a strat |
| 08:58:08 | Coldtoast | she's VERY like Hedges in style |
| 08:58:16 | jpegreen | Coldtaost check out the website for KAIKING and then tell me what you think |
| 08:58:22 | Coldtoast | I am noiw |
| 08:58:35 | Cka3ka | hehehehhe |
| 08:59:02 | Cka3ka | cold toast wanna hear what ive been listening to latley ? (think you might not wanna hear anything from me after that :-P) |
| 08:59:27 | jpegreen | Watch the vids and you will see that she is in the same realm as Hedges |
| 08:59:45 | DreamTactix291 | i'm listening to Elements of Persuasion which is one of my favourite albums lately :D |
| 08:59:58 | Cka3ka | lmao guys |
| 08:59:59 | Coldtoast | wow jpegreen! she's GREAT |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:13 | Cka3ka | i take it floyd isnt on any of your list of favs? |
| 09:00:17 | jpegreen | I thought you might like her she is good |
| 09:00:34 | Cka3ka | you guys like pink floyd? |
| 09:00:38 | Cka3ka | deep purple? |
| 09:00:50 | Coldtoast | I lov ePink Floyd |
| 09:00:54 | Cka3ka | really? |
| 09:00:56 | Cka3ka | im surprised |
| 09:01:02 | DreamTactix291 | i like some pink floyd |
| 09:01:12 | Cka3ka | i have the entire collection |
| 09:01:17 | Coldtoast | that's what I said before: I'd FAR prefer to listen to Gilmore over Santana or Page |
| 09:01:25 | Cka3ka | sat my ass down one day and browsed and downloaded till i got it all |
| 09:01:36 | Cka3ka | o im sorry i missed that lol |
| 09:01:40 | jpegreen | Be guys |
| 09:01:46 | Coldtoast | man! I HAVE to show Kaki to my friend |
| 09:01:48 | jpegreen | Bye LOL |
| 09:01:55 | Cka3ka | cya |
| 09:01:57 | Coldtoast | later |
| 09:01:59 | Coldtoast | and thanx! |
| 09:02:00 | Cka3ka | nice talki to you =-) |
| 09:02:17 | DreamTactix291 | well i'm sleeping now |
| 09:02:19 | DreamTactix291 | work in 4 hours :| |
| 09:02:23 | jpegreen | No problem I thought you would like her she is good look for me in the future |
| 09:02:40 | Cka3ka | cold toast, lemme drop you one more song, and ill be off; i feel you might hate it, but its just to get you an idea of what i like =-) |
| 09:02:49 | Cka3ka | currently |
| 09:02:53 | | Part jpegreen |
| 09:03:08 | Cka3ka | i love lotsa music, but what ive been listening to since april or so |
| 09:04:16 | Cka3ka | hmm |
| 09:04:27 | Cka3ka | i found the band, im just trying to figure out whats not too heavy =-) |
| 09:04:49 | QT | re |
| 09:05:00 | Cka3ka | re? |
| 09:05:04 | Cka3ka | ah |
| 09:05:04 | Cka3ka | wb |
| 09:05:09 | QT | yeah thx |
| 09:05:21 | Cka3ka | we had a whole discussion while you smoked |
| 09:05:32 | Cka3ka | the lesson: smoke less, live longer, argue more =-) |
| 09:05:50 | QT | hehe :) |
| 09:05:59 | QT | yeah, i just reread the log here |
| 09:06:12 | QT | music favs. a 'difficult' topic ;-) |
| 09:06:17 | Cka3ka | hhahaha |
| 09:06:18 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:06:28 | Cka3ka | <coldtoast> i got your song |
| 09:07:24 | Coldtoast | cool |
| 09:07:28 | Coldtoast | sorry. jsut watching these vids |
| 09:07:29 | Cka3ka | first tell me, if youre willing to listen through something heavy, ill give you that instead |
| 09:07:32 | Cka3ka | this is a bit lighter |
| 09:07:32 | Cka3ka | cool |
| 09:07:59 | Coldtoast | ohj, I listen to Perfect Circle, Tool, NIN, Disturbed, Linkin Park, |
| 09:08:05 | Coldtoast | more than anything else actually |
| 09:08:11 | Coldtoast | System of a Down |
| 09:08:16 | Cka3ka | hahahha |
| 09:08:17 | Cka3ka | nice |
| 09:08:17 | Coldtoast | COG |
| 09:08:21 | Cka3ka | thats good |
| 09:08:32 | Cka3ka | nothing like mesuganah and killswitch though right? |
| 09:08:40 | Coldtoast | sure |
| 09:08:43 | Cka3ka | really? |
| 09:08:45 | Cka3ka | wow |
| 09:08:46 | Cka3ka | nice |
| 09:08:49 | Cka3ka | =) |
| 09:08:50 | Coldtoast | I have about 4 Meshuganah albums |
| 09:08:54 | Cka3ka | hahahaha |
| 09:08:59 | Cka3ka | wow |
| 09:08:59 | Coldtoast | just got the new Killswitch too |
| 09:09:02 | Cka3ka | i would have never guessed |
| 09:09:06 | Cka3ka | =-O |
| 09:09:07 | Cka3ka | hehehehe |
| 09:09:13 | QT | perfect circle is great! |
| 09:09:17 | Cka3ka | im really surprised i must say |
| 09:09:25 | Cka3ka | yea i like em, thoough they can get annoying |
| 09:09:27 | QT | just heard their albums yesterday in the car while riding |
| 09:09:31 | Cka3ka | same with 9inchnails |
| 09:09:42 | Cka3ka | which album did you hear>? |
| 09:09:51 | Cka3ka | if you got good internet speed i can send you one |
| 09:09:53 | QT | seen perfect circle live last year. a strange guy the singer |
| 09:09:57 | Cka3ka | ah cool |
| 09:10:02 | | Join jpegreen [0] (~Jeremy@c-67-168-45-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 09:10:06 | Cka3ka | HES BACK |
| 09:10:08 | QT | Cka3ka: you mean me? |
| 09:10:10 | Cka3ka | did you forget your keys? |
| 09:10:15 | Cka3ka | QT: yea |
| 09:10:16 | QT | hehe |
| 09:10:28 | Cka3ka | jpe:did you forget your keys? wallet? =-) |
| 09:10:32 | QT | aeh, hang on, can't remember the names now :-( |
| 09:10:37 | jpegreen | Hey Coldtoast .... KAKI KING does all it with a standard six string |
| 09:10:46 | QT | the thirteen step!? is this one? |
| 09:10:52 | Cka3ka | yep thas the one i have |
| 09:10:56 | QT | and the other one.... |
| 09:11:05 | QT | damn, can't remember it now |
| 09:11:18 | jpegreen | I just realized I didn't have to go to work in the morning |
| 09:11:25 | Cka3ka | hahahah |
| 09:11:34 | Cka3ka | QT: emotive? |
| 09:11:38 | QT | Mer de Noms |
| 09:11:41 | Cka3ka | ahh |
| 09:11:43 | QT | no, do not like the emotive |
| 09:11:43 | Cka3ka | i want that |
| 09:11:48 | Cka3ka | if you have it send it over |
| 09:11:49 | QT | i have that |
| 09:11:56 | QT | can't acces it now |
| 09:11:59 | Cka3ka | ah |
| 09:12:00 | Cka3ka | ok |
| 09:12:14 | Cka3ka | man rockbox is the reason i got merc XD i was fine with msn and aim till it |
| 09:12:16 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:12:16 | QT | oh yeah, and this morning i heard Bush which i like a lot |
| 09:12:18 | Cka3ka | mirc* |
| 09:12:20 | Coldtoast | I have everyAPC album |
| 09:12:32 | Cka3ka | really? |
| 09:12:35 | Cka3ka | wait |
| 09:12:37 | Cka3ka | you have slow upload |
| 09:12:37 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 09:12:43 | Cka3ka | i was about to get excited |
| 09:12:44 | Cka3ka | hehehe |
| 09:13:20 | QT | my upload would be slow too :-( only 48kByte/s |
| 09:13:20 | Cka3ka | 48 isnt bad |
| 09:13:27 | QT | i will upgrade next month! |
| 09:13:31 | Cka3ka | hahah to what |
| 09:13:47 | QT | my telco provider is now offering dsl6000 which gives me 600kbit/s upload |
| 09:13:50 | Cka3ka | my internet can only be upgraded to t1 =-) |
| 09:14:04 | Cka3ka | SOO fast |
| 09:14:12 | Cka3ka | after im done sending file i can measure |
| 09:14:17 | QT | well, for my home usage that is sufficient |
| 09:14:17 | Cka3ka | or i can send you old measurement |
| 09:14:38 | QT | another fav of mine is Placebo |
| 09:14:47 | QT | and i like some german bands |
| 09:14:58 | QT | you won't know them though ;) |
| 09:15:25 | QT | last gig i have been at was GreenDay |
| 09:15:48 | Cka3ka | http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/5681813;945030;8346854a25f70a5a42167f2bca66fccc;2.0;nyc.speakeasy.net/1093964813 |
| 09:16:00 | Cka3ka | hit that link to see my speed stats |
| 09:16:03 | Cka3ka | i LOVE my isp |
| 09:16:24 | QT | not bad dude! |
| 09:17:02 | Cka3ka | i know right? |
| 09:17:03 | Cka3ka | =- |
| 09:17:08 | Cka3ka | you should see where i live |
| 09:17:12 | QT | don't let your wife hear that! ;) |
| 09:17:18 | Cka3ka | hahahaha |
| 09:17:20 | Cka3ka | 16 |
| 09:17:23 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:17:28 | Cka3ka | gf* |
| 09:17:33 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:17:47 | Cka3ka | man i live in this tiny town |
| 09:17:48 | Cka3ka | with this awesome isp |
| 09:18:09 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsbOnTheGoSupport |
| 09:19:39 | Cka3ka | que es? |
| 09:20:27 | Cka3ka | ahh isee |
| 09:20:56 | QT | what a pitty i just bought a new car.... |
| 09:20:56 | Cka3ka | unfortunatly doesnt concern me cus i have ihp120 and neither the money nor the willingness to switch to h3xx |
| 09:20:57 | QT | http://www.autoscout24.de/home/index/detail.asp?ts=5493170&id=yixzknijqhk&TFCA=33505.22 |
| 09:21:00 | QT | lol |
| 09:21:14 | QT | h3xx not any good IMO! |
| 09:21:21 | QT | i am so happy with the H140 |
| 09:21:36 | Cka3ka | you paint yours yer? |
| 09:21:38 | Cka3ka | yet*? |
| 09:21:47 | Cka3ka | bs on the car |
| 09:21:50 | Cka3ka | =-) no way |
| 09:22:09 | Cka3ka | show me a pic of you with the car holding up a sign that says eat this Cka3ka and ill believe you |
| 09:22:11 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:22:17 | QT | lol |
| 09:22:37 | QT | some more choice: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4566274129&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 |
| 09:23:04 | QT | Cka3ka: no i would not buy a SLR as you can not open the roof on that one :-D |
| 09:23:23 | Cka3ka | hahaha only readson |
| 09:23:26 | Cka3ka | hold on let me get glasses |
| 09:23:31 | Cka3ka | i cant see when it gets late |
| 09:23:47 | Cka3ka | there |
| 09:23:55 | Cka3ka | better |
| 09:23:58 | QT | i wouldn't mind driving it once |
| 09:24:00 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 09:24:02 | Cka3ka | man |
| 09:24:07 | Cka3ka | did you paint your ihp yet? |
| 09:24:13 | QT | paint? |
| 09:24:21 | Cka3ka | hold on |
| 09:24:22 | QT | no, it is shiny black as on the first day |
| 09:24:47 | QT | i just made iriver sending me a back case for it to get rid of the stupid brown one |
| 09:24:55 | QT | black case i mean |
| 09:24:57 | Cka3ka | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=22844 |
| 09:25:17 | Cka3ka | lmao i thought it was champagne |
| 09:25:20 | Cka3ka | and pretty goldish |
| 09:25:25 | Cka3ka | i always wanted one lol |
| 09:25:27 | Cka3ka | i have a black one |
| 09:25:33 | QT | h120 is champagne |
| 09:25:41 | QT | h140 is black |
| 09:25:43 | Cka3ka | h140=? |
| 09:25:54 | Cka3ka | thats bs |
| 09:25:56 | Cka3ka | =-) at least in us |
| 09:26:00 | Cka3ka | im us they all black |
| 09:26:06 | QT | i see |
| 09:26:08 | QT | in europe not |
| 09:26:10 | Cka3ka | brown=champagne? |
| 09:26:17 | QT | no |
| 09:26:23 | Cka3ka | they had brown!? |
| 09:26:25 | Cka3ka | EWWWW |
| 09:26:27 | QT | it is a bit like silver |
| 09:26:35 | Cka3ka | you said you had a brown one |
| 09:26:37 | QT | the H140 came with a black case |
| 09:26:40 | Cka3ka | ah |
| 09:26:40 | QT | the case! |
| 09:26:52 | Cka3ka | case?? i have a leather case |
| 09:26:52 | Cka3ka | lol |
| 09:27:01 | QT | i emailed iriver in germany and asked for a black one |
| 09:27:05 | Cka3ka | ah |
| 09:27:10 | QT | first they did not want to do anything for me |
| 09:27:37 | QT | i told them that i will go ahead and (mail)order a H120 and H140 to swap cases and return the H120 with the brown case |
| 09:27:46 | Cka3ka | hahahhaa |
| 09:27:57 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:27:57 | QT | and i asked her if there isn't any black case from a returned broken H120 unit |
| 09:28:10 | Cka3ka | you have a pic of this "case"? |
| 09:28:13 | QT | 5 minutes later i had a mail that she found one and asked for shipping details :) |
| 09:28:16 | QT | of which? |
| 09:28:21 | QT | black or brown? |
| 09:28:25 | Cka3ka | cus i was thinking about a shell |
| 09:28:31 | Cka3ka | either |
| 09:28:33 | QT | it is the leather case |
| 09:28:35 | Cka3ka | ooo |
| 09:28:38 | Cka3ka | lmao |
| 09:28:41 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:28:46 | QT | search on misticriver for "brown fuggly" there was a thread |
| 09:28:50 | Cka3ka | h120 leather case=black but not as cool |
| 09:29:04 | QT | that is the one i have now |
| 09:29:13 | QT | the h140 just fits inside |
| 09:29:27 | QT | you get it in with some power ;) |
| 09:30:50 | Cka3ka | i cant find a pic |
| 09:31:04 | QT | of what? |
| 09:31:07 | QT | the brown case? |
| 09:31:15 | Coldtoast | Cka3ka: here's a band called COG for you |
| 09:32:13 | Cka3ka | thanks |
| 09:32:15 | Cka3ka | =-) |
| 09:32:22 | Cka3ka | i found a black case |
| 09:32:27 | Cka3ka | same as iriver america black |
| 09:32:35 | Cka3ka | o man its 330 i gotta go to sleep soon |
| 09:32:37 | Cka3ka | or ill die tomrrow |
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| 09:35:11 | QT | it is 9h30am here and i am almost thru half of the day |
| 09:35:30 | Cka3ka | ?? |
| 09:35:34 | Cka3ka | thorugh half the day? |
| 09:35:37 | Cka3ka | its 335am |
| 09:35:38 | QT | yeah |
| 09:35:41 | Cka3ka | im about to go to sleep |
| 09:35:45 | QT | good night |
| 09:39:23 | Cka3ka | night man |
| 09:39:26 | Cka3ka | i gotta keep this on |
| 09:39:32 | Cka3ka | cold toast is sendin me stuff |
| 09:40:10 | Cka3ka | <cold> whatd you think of trivium? |
| 09:40:36 | Coldtoast | it was ok |
| 09:40:55 | Coldtoast | not REALLY a big fan of "walls of noise" type music tho |
| 09:41:01 | Cka3ka | ah |
| 09:41:28 | Cka3ka | grr failed |
| 09:41:33 | Cka3ka | email it to me if you dont mind |
| 09:41:37 | Cka3ka | i really gota sleep |
| 09:41:43 | Cka3ka | Froz3nflame@gmail.com |
| 09:41:44 | Cka3ka | im off |
| 09:41:48 | Cka3ka | nice talking to you guys |
| 09:41:50 | Cka3ka | cya all =-) |
| 09:41:54 | Coldtoast | have fun |
| 09:42:05 | Cka3ka | ty i will; sleep is good ;-) |
| 09:42:15 | QT | cu |
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| 09:43:40 | QT | hmm, www.delit.net doesn't allow me to choose the quality |
| 09:44:04 | QT | 192kbit/sec isn't good enough |
| 09:45:20 | Bger | definitely better than 128 :P |
| 09:45:35 | QT | erm yes! |
| 09:45:46 | QT | but for rock music 192 isn't enough |
| 09:45:59 | QT | i prefer −−preset standard |
| 09:46:10 | QT | or extreme or insane ;) |
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| 13:04:30 | Coldtoast | hey guys |
| 13:04:43 | Coldtoast | Rockbox is a tad unusable on my player at the moment |
| 13:04:49 | Coldtoast | in this latest build |
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| 13:05:21 | Coldtoast | when I adjust the volume, as it gets to around 80%, it CRAWLS and th eplayer becomes unresponsive |
| 13:05:30 | Coldtoast | but the track will keep playing |
| 13:05:47 | ashridah | yeah, i'm getting that as well. |
| 13:05:57 | ashridah | i find volume stops actually changing too, when it does that. |
| 13:06:04 | ashridah | can wind it right down to 0 and hear it perfectly |
| 13:06:07 | Coldtoast | yeah. it does eventually |
| 13:06:31 | Coldtoast | I ACTUALLY ended up having to use the iriver fw! |
| 13:11:43 | Coldtoast | and yeah, I felt dirty |
| 13:11:49 | Coldtoast | just kidding |
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| 13:35:43 | XavierGr | hmm where amiconn is lost? I haven't seen him lately... |
| 13:37:06 | Bger | XavierGr: he said he well be offline next 3-4 days, iirc |
| 13:37:18 | Bger | that was 2-3 days ago :) |
| 13:41:28 | XavierGr | I hope he is going for vacation. We all need time to relac |
| 13:41:32 | XavierGr | ^relax |
| 13:45:05 | Bger | yep :) |
| 13:46:04 | XavierGr | Bger: do you happen to know what 'opendir' or 'readdir' function returns? |
| 13:46:11 | Bger | let me see |
| 13:47:20 | Bger | return value or through the pointers ? |
| 13:47:48 | XavierGr | return value |
| 13:48:52 | Bger | i'm looking at firmware/drivers/fat.c : fat_opendir |
| 13:49:04 | Bger | returns 0 if it's OK |
| 13:49:21 | Bger | otherwise an error code |
| 13:49:33 | XavierGr | hmmm not what I hoped... |
| 13:49:58 | Bger | hm |
| 13:50:05 | XavierGr | is there a functions that returns what the fodler contains? |
| 13:50:18 | XavierGr | like all the files and subdirs? |
| 13:51:20 | XavierGr | I found it opendir returns a DIR type value |
| 13:51:34 | XavierGr | what is this DIR typedefine I wander... |
| 13:51:43 | Bger | where did you find it ? |
| 13:51:57 | Bger | i'm browsing through viewcvs.cgi ... |
| 13:52:38 | XavierGr | "/firmware/common/dir.c |
| 13:52:55 | Bger | sec |
| 13:53:12 | XavierGr | syntax: opendir(foldername) and it returns a DIR data type |
| 13:53:41 | XavierGr | interesting |
| 13:54:00 | Bger | i'm searching atm |
| 13:54:55 | Bger | firmware/include/dir.h |
| 13:54:56 | Bger | here |
| 13:55:16 | Bger | is defined DIR |
| 13:55:44 | XavierGr | yeap it's there |
| 13:55:47 | Bger | :) |
| 13:55:55 | XavierGr | hmm strange data type |
| 13:56:16 | XavierGr | a struct with 3 nested structures? |
| 13:56:17 | XavierGr | wow |
| 13:56:35 | Bger | what's the problem ? :) |
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| 13:57:05 | Bger | i suggest to look @ tree.c if you want to see how to use it |
| 13:57:46 | XavierGr | well I am trying to but to no avail. Do you know if the sorting of folders and files is done in tree.c or else where? |
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| 13:58:40 | XavierGr | the problem is that I want to make jpeg viewer scroll to previous or next file (when in zoom out) without having to quit. |
| 13:59:26 | XavierGr | I managed to make it load a fixed filename. But know I must program it to make a folder structure to load the previous and next filename |
| 13:59:34 | XavierGr | know=now |
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| 14:05:48 | Bger | hm |
| 14:06:19 | Bger | i think that it'll be better idea to add caps in tree.c for such thing |
| 14:06:32 | Bger | i mean |
| 14:07:00 | Bger | slideshow through file browser ... |
| 14:07:41 | Bger | i'll look at sorting |
| 14:08:48 | XavierGr | cpas? |
| 14:08:52 | XavierGr | caps? |
| 14:10:00 | XavierGr | I thought of using externaly the tree_context structure of tree.c within jpeg.c |
| 14:10:13 | XavierGr | but I failed. |
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| 14:13:51 | XavierGr | hi ac! |
| 14:14:03 | austriancoder | hi |
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| 14:14:33 | XavierGr | any knowledge on how we can aquire files and subfolders within a folder? |
| 14:14:45 | XavierGr | ^list of files (filenames) |
| 14:15:11 | austriancoder | Bagder: some news about the gcc error? |
| 14:18:00 | HCl | hello.. |
| 14:18:24 | austriancoder | hi |
| 14:18:36 | austriancoder | does anyone konws where amiconn is? |
| 14:18:53 | austriancoder | i want to make the lcd driver for iaudo ready |
| 14:19:09 | Bger | austriancoder: hi :) |
| 14:19:29 | austriancoder | Bger: hi |
| 14:19:40 | Bger | austriancoder he said 2-3 days ago that he'll be offline for the next days |
| 14:19:47 | Bger | (regarding amiconn) |
| 14:19:53 | austriancoder | ah ok... |
| 14:19:57 | austriancoder | so the lcd driver must wait |
| 14:20:11 | Bger | austriancoder any success with Ali's docs ? |
| 14:20:46 | Bger | about lcd driver: you have gcc compile problems with it ? |
| 14:21:16 | austriancoder | i haven't asked.. will do this the next days.. |
| 14:21:35 | austriancoder | simulator does build, but crashes and gaves while compiling some ld errors |
| 14:22:22 | Bger | "internal compiler error" ? |
| 14:22:28 | austriancoder | i hope that i can commit the tlv320 driver today |
| 14:22:42 | austriancoder | no... wait a moment |
| 14:23:12 | Bger | heh, most probably i wouldn't be able to help you ... |
| 14:23:37 | Bger | but you can try asking at #gcc if it's compiler problem |
| 14:24:13 | austriancoder | dont know where the error is.. it compiles fine, but crashes with an floating point exception |
| 14:25:15 | Bger | on the target ? |
| 14:25:48 | austriancoder | on the simulator |
| 14:26:07 | Bger | while compiling what?? |
| 14:26:44 | austriancoder | i compile the simulator.. at this step there are some ld errors.. then i run the simulator and get the exception |
| 14:27:13 | Bger | aha |
| 14:27:17 | austriancoder | *g* |
| 14:27:41 | Bger | sorry, but i didn't understand why do you want to compile simulator while making lcd driver ... |
| 14:28:02 | austriancoder | the two things are not conected |
| 14:28:03 | Bger | forget me :) |
| 14:28:15 | Bger | ok, that explains everything |
| 14:28:26 | austriancoder | ;) |
| 14:28:46 | Bger | there were internal gcc errors with old gcc (ver <3.4) |
| 14:28:52 | austriancoder | ah |
| 14:29:02 | Bger | m68-elf target |
| 14:29:30 | Bger | i though that you're writing the lcd drivers and get internal compiler errors.. |
| 14:29:38 | Bger | *driver |
| 14:29:53 | Bger | *thought |
| 14:30:05 | austriancoder | nono.. i need his help, because this is the first color lcd driver for rockbox and so it is something new |
| 14:30:36 | Bger | ok |
| 14:30:38 | Bger | ;) |
| 14:30:47 | austriancoder | need to go now... |
| 14:30:51 | austriancoder | cu |
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| 15:37:31 | dropandho | hey all! |
| 15:37:40 | dropandho | quick question for you guys, if anyone is around |
| 15:37:44 | HCl | mm? |
| 15:37:54 | dropandho | hey HC1 |
| 15:38:37 | dropandho | just wondering where things stood with Xavier's remote patch |
| 15:38:40 | dropandho | any clue? |
| 15:39:30 | Bger | 1) he is hcL |
| 15:39:52 | Bger | 2) if he doesn't use this patch - probably he doesn't have any clue |
| 15:40:11 | dropandho | 1- sorry, i missed typed |
| 15:40:22 | dropandho | 2- of course, and that is why i am asking |
| 15:40:31 | Bger | no offence :) |
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| 15:53:11 | stevenm | Hello all. What is the status of rockbox on the H3X0? Does it run? Is there at least basic LCD support? What about flashing? |
| 15:53:23 | Bger | stevenm: quick answer : no |
| 15:53:29 | stevenm | I need a device to continue coding the midi codec.. should I get a 3x0 now, or wait a bit? |
| 15:53:54 | Bger | stevenm |
| 15:53:59 | Bger | it's near |
| 15:54:06 | Bger | but how near .... |
| 15:54:20 | ashridah | near? |
| 15:54:23 | ashridah | i wouldn't say that |
| 15:54:31 | Bger | ashridah: why ? |
| 15:54:37 | ashridah | is anyone even working on the bootloader for it? |
| 15:54:43 | Bger | the only missing things are bootloader & LCD driver |
| 15:55:08 | Bger | ashridah: ok, but nearly all things, done for h1x0 will be used in h3x0 |
| 15:55:31 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 15:55:31 | * | ashridah notes that the bootloader for the H1x0 took ages to be released, and it was being actively worked on most of that time, H3x0 hasn't had the same attention from a dev with a BDM yet, afaik |
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| 15:56:02 | Bger | ashridah: ok, but on the other side ... the hardware is very simillar |
| 15:56:40 | ashridah | i'd suggest that the LCD and the bootloader are two of the hardest tasks. |
| 15:57:00 | Bger | ashridah: the architecture is the same ... |
| 15:57:07 | ashridah | (not the most time consuming, but do we even have specs for the LCD? i haven't been keeping track of that side) |
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| 15:57:36 | Bger | see in the wiki :) |
| 15:58:27 | Bger | short answer: most probably we know the LCD |
| 15:58:29 | ashridah | but yeah, my point is that not many people have BDM's. the ones that do are fairly busy. |
| 15:59:03 | stevenm | ashridah, for now, theoretically, how difficult/possible is it to construct a BDM out of a few PIC chips? |
| 15:59:24 | ashridah | stevenm: no idea, since i've never built one. |
| 15:59:44 | ashridah | they're not really that hard to make, i guess. just need appropriate equipment to assemble one with |
| 15:59:44 | stevenm | ashridah, hmm.. all right |
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| 16:00:11 | ashridah | then one needs the time and patience and willingness to crack open their H3x0 and solder something to it :) |
| 16:00:35 | stevenm | I have a nice setup over here for building pretty much anything over here. I just don't know how a BDM works, what kind of signals it puts out, etc |
| 16:01:07 | stevenm | or if a pic would be even fast enough to emulate one |
| 16:01:37 | stevenm | oh well, just a thought |
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| 16:01:58 | ashridah | someone here can probably toss you the schematic |
| 16:02:11 | stevenm | that'd be useful |
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| 16:03:10 | ashridah | There's probably a link to details about it on the wiki |
| 16:04:27 | ashridah | ah. damnit, the link's dead. |
| 16:05:35 | ashridah | http://cmp.felk.cvut.cz/~pisa/m683xx/bdm_driver.html is *potentially* a schematic for it, you'd have to check with Linus or someone tho |
| 16:06:54 | stevenm | There is a PDF on there, of a schematic |
| 16:07:13 | fogcat | any font experts in da house? - or for question 2 any mp3 tag & bitrate experts? |
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| 16:08:31 | austriancoder | hi al |
| 16:09:31 | Bger | hi, austriancoder;) |
| 16:09:49 | Bger | stevenm: btw, IaudioX5 port is also in progress ... |
| 16:10:11 | stevenm | Bger, ah |
| 16:10:19 | austriancoder | jep ;) |
| 16:10:24 | Bger | austriancoder is the guy |
| 16:10:27 | austriancoder | audio codec driver is done ;) |
| 16:11:19 | austriancoder | pcf50606 driver is in progress - is also needed for h3xx |
| 16:12:47 | stevenm | well, all right. i am going to wait a bit (and hopefully get paid) and then buy a device a bit later |
| 16:13:06 | austriancoder | i think i will buy a second iaudio x5.. i cant use the curren one, because is opend |
| 16:13:26 | stevenm | thanks for the info. bye all |
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| 16:33:47 | dropandho | any of you guys know where things are at with the remote patch? |
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| 18:04:31 | Coldtoast | hey |
| 18:04:46 | Coldtoast | anybody know what the prob with Rockbox and volume is at the moment? |
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| 18:06:17 | austriancoder | hoi |
| 18:06:17 | Coldtoast | hey austriancoder |
| 18:06:41 | austriancoder | hi Coldtoast |
| 18:06:42 | Coldtoast | have you seen the current volume bug in rockbox? |
| 18:06:54 | Coldtoast | it makes it kind of unusable |
| 18:07:19 | austriancoder | some peolpe told me about the bug |
| 18:07:32 | Coldtoast | ah cool |
| 18:07:54 | austriancoder | can you try this |
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| 18:09:04 | austriancoder | try this version: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h120/rockbox-h120-20050730.zip |
| 18:09:19 | austriancoder | maybe i broke i2c stuff |
| 18:09:28 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 18:11:30 | Coldtoast | no good |
| 18:11:49 | Coldtoast | nah. it's no better at all |
| 18:12:01 | Coldtoast | almost seems worse, actually |
| 18:12:16 | Coldtoast | hmm. actually, not worse |
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| 18:12:52 | Coldtoast | before, it'd get to a certain poitn normally then SLOW DOWN, the player would become unresponsive and volume display would show changes maybe avery couple of seconds |
| 18:13:04 | Coldtoast | with this one, it's REALLY slow but faster than before |
| 18:14:29 | Coldtoast | ok. the slowdown kicks in at 83%, if that helps |
| 18:15:00 | Coldtoast | when you go from low volume up, it'sw normal then hits 83% and crawls |
| 18:15:14 | Coldtoast | then if you go down from there, it's all slow |
| 18:15:29 | austriancoder | hmm |
| 18:15:41 | austriancoder | will try to get my ihp140 running |
| 18:15:45 | Coldtoast | and what the volume level says ans what it is have no relation |
| 18:15:46 | austriancoder | and mybe i can fix it |
| 18:15:59 | Coldtoast | the WPS shows it changing but it doesn't actually change |
| 18:16:02 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 18:19:41 | austriancoder | need to go now |
| 18:19:42 | austriancoder | cu |
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| 18:20:02 | Coldtoast | ok |
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| 18:55:55 | kellyg | hi- can anyone recommend an armband or goodskin for an iHP 120? |
| 18:57:15 | kellyg | there is an apple armband for the 20G iPod and something made by macextreme that apple sells for the 20G ipod - the ihp has roughly same dimensions so i am thinking it will fit - however, there is a clear flap that covers the face and the wheel on the ipod is flush where as the iHP button sticks outa bit |
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| 19:28:50 | HCl | hm |
| 19:28:56 | HCl | thanks for reminding me of that |
| 19:29:00 | HCl | i need to get a coolskin for my iriver |
| 19:32:33 | kellyg | any sources HC? |
| 19:32:50 | kellyg | ive searched ebay and they only have skins for new irivers |
| 19:33:09 | kellyg | also, i want to walk/run w this and i dont think my back pocket is a good idea |
| 19:34:04 | kellyg | so i wanted an armband, there is one for the 20G ipod and it has a clear cover for access, but the ipod wheel is flush and iriver knob protrudes a bit |
| 19:35:03 | kellyg | the leather skin for my 120 makes it twice as heavy and has a belt clip etc....too bulky size and weight wise |
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| 19:36:33 | HCl | looking at iskin at the moment |
| 19:36:49 | XavierGr | HCl: :) |
| 19:36:51 | XavierGr | hi all |
| 19:37:07 | XavierGr | you wanted to say something to me the other day didn't you? |
| 19:37:15 | kellyg | hello Xav |
| 19:38:16 | XavierGr | 20.06.05 # <XavierGr> does anyone know the easiest way to isolate the dir path from a filename? |
| 19:38:16 | XavierGr | 20.06.42 # <XavierGr> I can do the oposite like:file = rb->strrchr(filepath,'/'); file++; |
| 19:38:40 | XavierGr | HCl:I left before you could answer |
| 19:41:07 | HCl | ohyes |
| 19:41:12 | kellyg | anyone ever use foobar? (using it convert to .OGG) ? |
| 19:41:21 | HCl | it kind of depends on whether you can modify the filepath variable |
| 19:41:29 | HCl | but if not you'll just have to copy it to a different var. |
| 19:41:50 | HCl | its pretty much what you have now, with *file=0; added |
| 19:41:56 | HCl | and then the path is in filepath |
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| 19:43:07 | kellyg | may i ask a noob question in regard to tagging? |
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| 19:44:19 | XavierGr | Thanks HCl! Do you happen to know anything about directory and file manipulation in Rockbox? |
| 19:44:39 | kellyg | i am using a prog called foobar to convert commercial discs to .OGG - when i convert them and load them into rockbox, the #s show..the file name..like 008,321, etc...is that the ID3? when i PLAY it shows the title - any way to show the title when i look at the folder contents rather than the filename ? |
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| 19:53:26 | HCl | no, sorry |
| 19:53:51 | HCl | that was directed to XavierGr |
| 19:53:52 | HCl | o.o |
| 19:55:43 | kellyg | HC - can you help w my q ? |
| 19:55:44 | kellyg | :) |
| 19:56:11 | kellyg | i'm using OGG because it seems to playback gapless best |
| 19:57:01 | kellyg | but after i convert or tag the files, if i have a folder w an artist w albums and i open a folder, i see the OGG filename and not the tagged title |
| 19:58:03 | XavierGr | didnt quite got your problem |
| 19:58:33 | XavierGr | You have an ogg file and the tags arent set correctly? |
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| 20:06:48 | kellyg | hi Xav.,.sorrry, I was away for a few |
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| 20:07:18 | kellyg | I dont know if they arent set correctly..what i have done is used a program to convert from .CDA files to .OGG |
| 20:08:16 | kellyg | i see the names of files as 890,872,223, etc etc...when i PLAY the files i see the correct title etc..but when i open a folder the name of the file is all #s |
| 20:09:16 | kellyg | also this happens w music i have downloaded from FTP sites...say a file in named for date and track #..i may see 1982-01-01d1 |
| 20:09:57 | kellyg | but when i play it i see the song title, i am wondering if i can view the TITLE of the song (as it correctly appears during playback) when i look at the directory listings when i boot up |
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| 20:22:37 | bluebrother^ | kellyg: just use senseful filenames. |
| 20:22:57 | kellyg | hi blues..what do you mean? |
| 20:23:06 | kellyg | what i am seeing is the CDDA file name |
| 20:23:29 | kellyg | but when i do play it appears as it should..do i have to manaullay rename all of the files? |
| 20:31:10 | XavierGr | its about tags |
| 20:31:36 | XavierGr | maybe the filename is 800...32 but it is tagged. |
| 20:31:50 | XavierGr | so when you play the song you see the tag not the filename |
| 20:32:25 | XavierGr | OR if the filename is correct. then turn off an option about id3 filetree info. Look on the options |
| 20:33:19 | kellyg | so what do i do? this is an iHP 120 |
| 20:33:44 | kellyg | should i boot up in rockbox or orig iriver firmware? |
| 20:34:34 | kellyg | im guessing this is in display settings? |
| 20:36:37 | XavierGr | does it shows right on the iriver firmware? |
| 20:36:51 | XavierGr | does the filename shows correctly in windows? |
| 20:37:54 | kellyg | no..both rockbox and iriver show the cdda ID |
| 20:37:58 | kellyg | in windows? |
| 20:46:01 | XavierGr | yeah check the filename in windows too |
| 20:46:18 | kellyg | now i cant even get to settings |
| 20:46:28 | kellyg | i unchecked used tags just to see |
| 20:46:47 | XavierGr | if the filename in windows is right then you must remove the tags with a tagging progeam |
| 20:46:48 | kellyg | if i am in iriver..and i see folders w # songs..how do i reset the settings? |
| 20:46:52 | XavierGr | ^program |
| 20:47:19 | XavierGr | dunno but its irrelevant. Check your files in your PC |
| 20:49:04 | kellyg | nah..whenh i open the folders...i dont see song titles i see the IDs |
| 20:49:09 | kellyg | in windows |
| 20:50:27 | kellyg | so you are saying i can remove the tags? what program and do i this in windows? in the device folders? |
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| 20:51:51 | austriancoder | hi |
| 20:52:24 | Coldtoast | hey austriancoder |
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| 20:55:19 | XavierGr | kellyg search the interent for tagging programs about ogg files |
| 20:55:28 | XavierGr | Godfather is a good one |
| 20:55:50 | austriancoder | juk is also nice ;) |
| 20:55:52 | XavierGr | remove all tags of you ogg files (if you dont care) and then test to see how the songs display |
| 20:56:08 | kellyg | thnx Xav |
| 20:56:30 | XavierGr | watch it though dont blame me if you had nice tagged ogg files and then you lost your tags |
| 20:56:45 | kellyg | well i am reading about updating the db..i have never done that |
| 20:58:25 | kellyg | altho when i ricght click i dont even get an option to update DB |
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| 21:02:50 | XavierGr | wait a sec do you use a database? |
| 21:03:08 | XavierGr | I don't know anything about database generation or errors |
| 21:03:52 | kellyg | havent used the database at all |
| 21:04:18 | kellyg | thought maybe an updated db or use of db would display the info rather than file name..but didnt happen |
| 21:06:06 | XavierGr | have to go bye |
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| 21:06:26 | austriancoder | what is "Invoice Location" |
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| 21:15:11 | HCl | i'm bored.. |
| 21:16:20 | Coldtoast | HCl: do you have the volume bug on your iriver? |
| 21:16:35 | Coldtoast | is it happenign wit everybody's player? |
| 21:17:55 | DreamTactix291 | my player didn't seem to change volume today |
| 21:18:35 | Coldtoast | when you increase the volume, does it work fine til it hits 83% DreamTactix291? |
| 21:18:41 | DreamTactix291 | something like that |
| 21:18:48 | Coldtoast | k |
| 21:19:05 | DreamTactix291 | i didn't check the actual number but it wouldn't go as loud as normal in my car |
| 21:19:23 | DreamTactix291 | normally have it between 85 and 90 for the car using an FM transmitter |
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| 22:07:55 | HCl | what volume bug? |
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| 22:36:54 | bluebrother^ | is it a intended behaviour that rockbox doesn't turn off when connected to the carger (on h-120)? |
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