| 00:01:11 | muesli- | format muesli: |
| 00:02:40 | XavierGr | format you? |
| 00:02:55 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:03:31 | XavierGr | does anyone remembers how can I save my alias in linux? |
| 00:04:36 | Vortex | write them down to ~/.bash_rc |
| 00:05:29 | XavierGr | ok thanks |
| 00:05:55 | XavierGr | is this bash_rc a file? |
| 00:06:14 | Vortex | its the bash shell startup script |
| 00:06:19 | Vortex | its a file |
| 00:06:45 | Vortex | might not be the exact name, try ls -al |
| 00:06:49 | Vortex | see if something pops up |
| 00:06:55 | Vortex | at your home dir, ofcourse |
| 00:10:50 | XavierGr | # auto-complete is case INsensitive |
| 00:10:50 | XavierGr | # also requires an edit .inputrc |
| 00:10:50 | XavierGr | shopt -s nocaseglob |
| 00:11:05 | XavierGr | thats what was written in .bashrc |
| 00:11:27 | XavierGr | now can I type alias 'name'=command and save it? |
| 00:13:12 | Vortex | yup |
| 00:13:24 | Vortex | i think its alias="command" |
| 00:13:26 | Vortex | not sure |
| 00:15:07 | XavierGr | I'll give it a try |
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| 00:42:01 | * | HCl prods XavierGr |
| 00:43:45 | HCl | sorry |
| 00:43:50 | HCl | read privmsg |
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| 00:59:25 | XavierGr | HCl: It gave a run time error again? |
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| 01:03:27 | XavierGr | Holy CRAP. It works on my player but it crashes on the simulator!!!!! |
| 01:03:51 | XavierGr | How's that happening? |
| 01:04:57 | XavierGr | Now I am in fear to test what I programmed in the simulator. What if it crashes on other correct instances too? |
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| 01:19:00 | HCl | XavierGr: yea, the sim isn't always accurate |
| 01:19:05 | HCl | i remember when i first got rockboy to run |
| 01:19:13 | HCl | it worked on iriver but not in the simulator |
| 01:19:43 | HCl | one of the reasons why i rarely ever use the simulator to test what i code |
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| 01:28:05 | XavierGr | so HCl are you going to optimize the rockboy emulator any time soon (or is it on your plans?) |
| 01:28:38 | XavierGr | Do you think that it can be optimized to be playable (with its sound on) |
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| 01:29:32 | HCl | well |
| 01:29:40 | HCl | its been in an increasing priority, at least. |
| 01:29:54 | HCl | first thing i need to look at is making the runtime database work without a tag database |
| 01:30:21 | HCl | and it *can* be optimized, but the question is more to how much time you want to put in optimizing it, heh. |
| 01:30:41 | HCl | i know there are a few critical functions that can be converted to asm without too much trouble |
| 01:30:58 | HCl | if that doesn't give enough speed we'll have to rewrite the cpu core to assembly |
| 01:32:36 | XavierGr | hmm I don't know much about programming but whenever I hear "optimizing" I think that this must be the most difficult part. Because you will have to think ways to do the same thing but without cluttering the cpu. Very difficult indeed. |
| 01:33:12 | XavierGr | And sometimes this may lead up to complete reright, I guess... |
| 01:33:34 | HCl | yup. |
| 01:34:13 | DarkkOne | Some might argue it's the most fun, depending on the person though |
| 01:34:31 | HCl | i know at least that people who are expecting it to do full color on h3x0 are badly mistaken |
| 01:34:45 | DarkkOne | Hehehe |
| 01:34:46 | HCl | it barely has enough cpu to do grayscale, let alone remapping the colors |
| 01:35:11 | HCl | but it runs pretty well. |
| 01:35:23 | HCl | we should be able to squeeze a little more speed out of it |
| 01:35:28 | HCl | someday |
| 01:36:14 | XavierGr | hm I now remember my brother telling about one of his friends. |
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| 01:36:49 | XavierGr | He told him that he HAS PROGRAMMED an alternate firmware for the iHP!!!!! |
| 01:37:01 | HCl | gheh. |
| 01:37:09 | HCl | let me guess, he used that picture changer thing? |
| 01:37:14 | HCl | or was he actually trying to take credit for rockbox? |
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| 01:37:28 | XavierGr | That's what I am thinking |
| 01:37:44 | XavierGr | I will actually call him to see what's happening |
| 01:38:25 | XavierGr | also the same guy said that the sony PSP uses a 40-core CPU? and that he managed (after many months of work) to make 32-core CPU alone!!!!! |
| 01:38:42 | HCl | gheh. |
| 01:38:57 | HCl | if someone said that to me i'd be instantly ignoring them about computers and try to change subjects |
| 01:39:17 | XavierGr | My brother is trully technical handicap but that is just crazy! |
| 01:39:55 | XavierGr | Who can believe all this crap? And when I told my brother that he is lying he yelled at me |
| 01:40:58 | XavierGr | Though, I am very curious too actually listen this guy about all these. |
| 01:42:22 | XavierGr | And I say to me. Is there any chance a guy like him have an alternate firmware, while a whole team is working on it? |
| 01:42:47 | XavierGr | I am thinking that my brother maybe heard something different from him... |
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| 01:42:55 | BoD[] | Hellooow! |
| 01:44:34 | XavierGr | Hi |
| 01:44:58 | BoD[] | hey |
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| 01:45:16 | BoD[] | does anyone know how (if possible) to remove drm protection from a wma file? |
| 01:45:44 | BoD[] | a friend bought a song on napster (yes) and one on yahoo music... and of cours I can't play it on my pc |
| 01:49:21 | XavierGr | you can make a real time recording while playing it on his PC |
| 01:50:24 | XavierGr | I searched a little bit about it only to found that removing drm is no longer possible. (nothing is inpossible but for the time being noone has written an app for it) |
| 01:50:37 | DarkkOne | Well, if it's the actual purchased napster songs, those are supposed to be strippable. |
| 01:50:45 | DarkkOne | I thought... |
| 01:51:59 | thegeek_ | Advanced Encode Decode Tools |
| 01:52:12 | thegeek_ | it basically just plays it and records it at the same time |
| 01:52:28 | thegeek_ | it did the latest wma protection last time I used it |
| 01:52:45 | thegeek_ | http://www.freakforum.nu/forum/showthread.php?t=25279&highlight=thegeek |
| 01:52:49 | thegeek_ | you prob. wont understand that |
| 01:52:52 | thegeek_ | it norwegian |
| 01:52:53 | thegeek_ | but.. |
| 01:52:53 | thegeek_ | ;) |
| 01:53:22 | XavierGr | yeah thegeek but what if you don't have the PC with the license? |
| 01:53:34 | thegeek_ | exactly,) |
| 01:53:43 | thegeek_ | you need to do it on the pc with the license |
| 01:53:59 | thegeek_ | afaik there is no known vulnerabilities in the latest wma protection |
| 01:54:11 | thegeek_ | the last one was cracked because of a vulnerability |
| 01:54:13 | XavierGr | people should stop buying srm music |
| 01:54:16 | XavierGr | ^drm |
| 01:54:21 | thegeek_ | but this latest one does seem quite secure |
| 01:54:28 | thegeek_ | who the hell cares |
| 01:54:40 | thegeek_ | I don't buy music with drm out of principle |
| 01:54:47 | thegeek_ | not that I buy that much music anyway;p |
| 01:54:55 | XavierGr | there is nothing secure. If it has a lock-up algorithm you can exploit it and find the opposite |
| 01:54:59 | HCl | people who buy drm are idiots |
| 01:55:06 | XavierGr | though that maybe very very difficult |
| 01:55:14 | thegeek_ | well XavierGr |
| 01:55:16 | thegeek_ | that is the point |
| 01:55:19 | thegeek_ | without the license |
| 01:55:23 | thegeek_ | you can't "crack" it |
| 01:55:31 | thegeek_ | it's the basic principle of all encryption |
| 01:55:41 | thegeek_ | it is trivial to play it with the license |
| 01:55:51 | thegeek_ | without it you'll be facing some problems,) |
| 01:56:19 | thegeek_ | you could bruteforce it |
| 01:56:26 | thegeek_ | but that would not be practical |
| 01:56:27 | ashridah | thegeek_: see you in a few thousand years |
| 01:56:31 | thegeek_ | hehe;) |
| 01:56:32 | ashridah | at least :) |
| 01:56:33 | XavierGr | yeah but someone that has bought a piece can see how it works reproduce it and make an app that will do the job. Though this theoritical I think it can be done. |
| 01:56:35 | thegeek_ | exactly |
| 01:56:52 | thegeek_ | XavierGr: the license is ofcourse different for each album/song |
| 01:57:03 | ashridah | XavierGr: there is no 'opposite' to encryption. |
| 01:57:04 | thegeek_ | and the license is just basically the key |
| 01:57:08 | ashridah | not decent encryption anyway |
| 01:57:24 | ashridah | the reverse method is only one of millions of combinations |
| 01:57:26 | ashridah | and you need the right one |
| 01:57:42 | thegeek_ | I remember beeing _very_ impressed with the last wma decryption code |
| 01:57:42 | ashridah | realistically, it'd be easier to figure out how to extract the key :) |
| 01:57:42 | XavierGr | yeah but the algorithm of the encryption if found can make the mp3 audible |
| 01:57:54 | thegeek_ | the encryption technique used is really quite nice |
| 01:57:58 | ashridah | XavierGr: no it can't. |
| 01:58:27 | thegeek_ | not without the key |
| 01:58:32 | ashridah | just knowing the algorithm gets you virtually no-where |
| 01:58:36 | XavierGr | as long as a player opens the file and plays it I cant see why you cant with another app |
| 01:58:39 | thegeek_ | dude |
| 01:58:44 | thegeek_ | you need the key |
| 01:58:46 | thegeek_ | to unlock it |
| 01:58:54 | ashridah | XavierGr: other apps can, IF they've got access to the key |
| 01:58:58 | thegeek_ | mhm |
| 01:59:01 | XavierGr | and what if you know the algorithm to make the key? |
| 01:59:01 | thegeek_ | without the key |
| 01:59:04 | thegeek_ | nothing can open it |
| 01:59:09 | ashridah | XavierGr: that doesn't help you either. |
| 01:59:12 | thegeek_ | there is no algo to make the key |
| 01:59:19 | thegeek_ | it's "random" |
| 01:59:26 | thegeek_ | as random as you can get |
| 01:59:36 | thegeek_ | or |
| 01:59:37 | thegeek_ | well |
| 01:59:40 | thegeek_ | not really |
| 01:59:44 | thegeek_ | but it's random enough |
| 01:59:56 | ashridah | XavierGr: the key generation involves selecting (at least, for earlier encryptions) the factorisation pair from a really REALLY huge number. and you need to know that exact pair, and that's an NP-hard problem to brute force |
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| 02:00:23 | ashridah | make the key long enough, and we're talking something that's going to take you longer than there is life left in the universe |
| 02:00:28 | XavierGr | and why dont they make this kind of encryption to programs? |
| 02:00:36 | ashridah | XavierGr: they do |
| 02:00:36 | thegeek_ | it's not the same |
| 02:00:39 | thegeek_ | it's not |
| 02:00:55 | thegeek_ | because |
| 02:01:16 | thegeek_ | hmm |
| 02:01:17 | thegeek_ | dang |
| 02:01:22 | XavierGr | what? |
| 02:01:26 | ashridah | ssh, openssl, gpg and others all use variants of encryption that are virtually unbreakable, provided the key length is long enough. |
| 02:01:28 | HCl | XavierGr: they're planning to do that in windows vista |
| 02:01:31 | thegeek_ | armadillo gets close |
| 02:01:34 | HCl | www.againsttcpa.com |
| 02:01:36 | HCl | read that site |
| 02:01:59 | XavierGr | so in some years you say that there will be no cracked programs? |
| 02:02:07 | HCl | thats microsoft's intention, yes. |
| 02:02:10 | HCl | read the site, it explains it all. |
| 02:02:21 | HCl | windows vista is supposed to have it. i'm not going to get the newer windows versions. |
| 02:02:41 | HCl | they can go beep theirselves. |
| 02:02:51 | HCl | the day they try to force me to buy their crap is the day i switch to linux |
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| 02:02:57 | thegeek_ | ok XavierGr |
| 02:03:02 | thegeek_ | there are program that do it already |
| 02:03:05 | thegeek_ | using dongle's |
| 02:03:08 | thegeek_ | add-on hardware |
| 02:03:16 | XavierGr | I know about dongles |
| 02:03:16 | ashridah | HCl: poser. i switched years ago, without needing to be forced by ms :) |
| 02:03:16 | thegeek_ | f.ex to plug into the parallell port |
| 02:03:21 | thegeek_ | and if the cracked does not have the dongle |
| 02:03:24 | thegeek_ | it is very hard to crack it |
| 02:03:25 | thegeek_ | but. |
| 02:03:29 | XavierGr | but I have heard that there are cracked versions of them too |
| 02:03:34 | thegeek_ | exactly |
| 02:03:37 | thegeek_ | the cracked has the dongle |
| 02:03:40 | thegeek_ | so he decrypts the program |
| 02:03:46 | thegeek_ | cracks it |
| 02:03:48 | thegeek_ | and there you go |
| 02:03:50 | thegeek_ | cracked program |
| 02:04:00 | XavierGr | so if you do the same for the drm? |
| 02:04:03 | thegeek_ | dude |
| 02:04:08 | thegeek_ | you still dont get it |
| 02:04:10 | XavierGr | or it is song specific? |
| 02:04:13 | thegeek_ | ofcourse you can |
| 02:04:13 | thegeek_ | yes |
| 02:04:18 | thegeek_ | or atleast album specific |
| 02:04:21 | thegeek_ | I said that 10 mins ago |
| 02:04:22 | XavierGr | hmmm |
| 02:05:29 | XavierGr | so even theoritically (but without brute force methods) yoou say that drm universal drm cracking is impossible? |
| 02:05:30 | thegeek_ | if the encryption algorithm has a flaw |
| 02:05:33 | thegeek_ | that can be exploited |
| 02:05:49 | thegeek_ | as long as the content is viewable it's crackable |
| 02:05:49 | thegeek_ | I mean |
| 02:06:02 | thegeek_ | you'd have to drm the viewers brain |
| 02:06:06 | ashridah | XavierGr: you realise, of course, that the only reason dvd decryption got cracked was that Xing accidentally left an unencrypted form of their decryption key inside their program, and someone extracted it |
| 02:06:11 | thegeek_ | no |
| 02:06:13 | thegeek_ | it's not |
| 02:06:26 | thegeek_ | even without that key |
| 02:06:30 | thegeek_ | it would have been cracked |
| 02:06:39 | thegeek_ | css was weak |
| 02:07:04 | ashridah | thegeek_: sure, it was weak, but no-one sat there brute forcing it. |
| 02:07:14 | thegeek_ | ;) |
| 02:08:35 | thegeek_ | it would surely have been cracked |
| 02:08:51 | ashridah | by now, probably. |
| 02:09:02 | XavierGr | hey That TCPA thing is the worst thing I have heard. |
| 02:09:09 | thegeek_ | well |
| 02:09:11 | thegeek_ | it's only 40bit |
| 02:09:19 | thegeek_ | so even brute-force would not be that bad |
| 02:09:27 | thegeek_ | a modern computer |
| 02:09:31 | thegeek_ | can brute force it in 24 hours |
| 02:09:38 | XavierGr | Who the hell is gonna confront about having a security chip in your PC? |
| 02:09:57 | thegeek_ | it will never ever ever work |
| 02:12:02 | XavierGr | excuse me the article there says that they are planning on doing opensource programms illegal!!!! How that is explained by them? With what arguments are they going to support this!!! |
| 02:12:38 | XavierGr | This is outrageous. I am freaking out... |
| 02:12:44 | thegeek_ | chill out |
| 02:12:46 | thegeek_ | once again |
| 02:12:50 | thegeek_ | it will never work |
| 02:12:59 | ashridah | XavierGr: personally, i find those arguments unjustifiable, but conspiracy theorists love it |
| 02:13:02 | thegeek_ | perhaps if microsoft did have a _complete_ monopoly |
| 02:13:16 | thegeek_ | but with the current situtation |
| 02:13:17 | thegeek_ | no way |
| 02:13:41 | thegeek_ | any motherboard manufacturer would see that there is a market for non-tcpa motherboards |
| 02:13:46 | BoD[] | Dear user, |
| 02:13:47 | BoD[] | You are about to break the law trying to use a stolen key to Advanced Encode Decode Tools. In case you think that some kind of mistake may occur please contact our technical support center. |
| 02:13:47 | BoD[] | Your IP address is logged |
| 02:13:52 | BoD[] | :) |
| 02:13:55 | thegeek_ | hehe |
| 02:14:13 | thegeek_ | oh well |
| 02:14:14 | thegeek_ | anyway |
| 02:14:26 | thegeek_ | this does not really belong on #rockbox now does it? |
| 02:14:32 | BoD[] | nop |
| 02:14:34 | thegeek_ | good night;) |
| 02:14:43 | XavierGr | good night thegeek_ |
| 02:14:53 | BoD[] | but rockbox -> mp3 -> music -> drm |
| 02:14:58 | XavierGr | lol |
| 02:15:00 | BoD[] | :) |
| 02:17:10 | HCl | hrm. |
| 02:17:23 | HCl | that bug i just rescued out of my room drank quite a bit from my sake |
| 02:17:28 | HCl | thats gonna be a drunk bug, heh o.o |
| 02:17:33 | BoD[] | ! :) |
| 02:17:52 | * | HCl captured it with his empty sake glass and there was still a bit left |
| 02:18:04 | HCl | and it like. stayed inside and refused to get out cause it was drinking, heh |
| 02:18:16 | HCl | bugs are scary o.o |
| 02:19:08 | ashridah | what kind of bug? |
| 02:20:33 | XavierGr | program one maybe? |
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| 02:26:37 | HCl | one of those night moth/butterfly things |
| 02:26:43 | HCl | they're big.. |
| 02:27:35 | ashridah | ah |
| 02:28:01 | ze | HCl: with the freaky copper-mirror eyes? |
| 02:28:04 | HCl | um. |
| 02:28:09 | HCl | i dunno |
| 02:28:15 | HCl | i didn't look at it that close up |
| 02:28:21 | HCl | i just captured it and put it outside |
| 02:28:23 | ze | you don't need to look at it close |
| 02:28:29 | HCl | probably not, then |
| 02:28:29 | ze | its just when the light hits it right |
| 02:28:37 | ze | the eyes light up like copper |
| 02:28:42 | HCl | hmk |
| 02:28:53 | ze | gotta get it from the right angle |
| 02:28:59 | ze | but then you can see it from a pretty good distance |
| 02:29:06 | ze | its very distinct |
| 02:29:54 | XavierGr | have to sleep and still have to eat that gyros we were saying before! |
| 02:30:03 | XavierGr | good night all! |
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| 04:58:58 | stevenm | Hello. Does anyone know what happened to midi2wav.c ? |
| 04:59:21 | stevenm | there's a bug I want to fix, but cannot find the file! |
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| 05:09:39 | ashridah | was it ever in CVS? |
| 05:10:05 | ashridah | my guess is that someone ported it to the audio plugin architecture instead of it being a viewer |
| 05:11:06 | stevenm | ashridah, I found it being moved to the attic... not seeing any port of it |
| 05:11:19 | stevenm | I guess it was just moved because all the other *2wav files were too |
| 05:11:53 | stevenm | I will write an actual CODEC of it, but right now there's another problem. Sim doesn't run- Floating Point Exception |
| 05:11:59 | ashridah | most likely |
| 05:13:26 | stevenm | ashridah, do you know what's up with the sim? I just built newest version, X11 sim, for Iriver 120/140. Start it, and get Floating Point Exception, no window, nothing |
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| 05:24:41 | ashridah | i don't use the simulator |
| 05:24:48 | stevenm | Anyone else getting this floating point exception on the sim? |
| 05:25:08 | ashridah | check the build status on www.rockbox.org ? |
| 05:25:22 | stevenm | ashridah, I kind of have to... still haven't obtained a device. 2 months of work and still haven't seen a paycheck :) |
| 05:26:21 | stevenm | status seems fine |
| 05:32:01 | stevenm | just erased everything, checked out, rebuilt, still happening |
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| 05:36:46 | ashridah | runs okay here |
| 05:36:49 | ashridah | gah |
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| 06:35:39 | webguest67 | What percentage of competion do you think the h1x0 version is at? |
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| 06:36:17 | ashridah | heh. 90%. of course, it's the other 90% that takes the most time :) |
| 06:36:32 | Leperkawn | 0.o |
| 06:36:39 | Leperkawn | What exactly does that mean? |
| 06:36:39 | ashridah | in reality, i doubt it'll ever be 'done', so to speak. there's still plenty to do |
| 06:36:52 | ashridah | Leperkawn: law of software engineering. |
| 06:36:58 | Leperkawn | Yeah. |
| 06:37:06 | Leperkawn | By 'done', I mean stable enough to use. |
| 06:37:31 | ashridah | when you've got 90% done, you've still got another 90% to go. (otherwise seen as, the final 10% takes 90% of the time) |
| 06:37:51 | Leperkawn | So you're speaking proportionately (sp) |
| 06:38:05 | Leperkawn | Technically you're saying you 1/2 way done overall. Right? |
| 06:38:47 | ashridah | well, atm, the player's reasonably stable |
| 06:38:47 | Leperkawn | But one could look at is as 90% done with that last 10% being out of proportion. |
| 06:38:52 | ashridah | but there's still some major features missing |
| 06:39:00 | Leperkawn | Yeah |
| 06:39:02 | ashridah | and playback isn't completely satisfactory. |
| 06:39:19 | Leperkawn | I'm just interested on that starting of the h2x0 version :) |
| 06:39:26 | Leperkawn | Erm |
| 06:39:30 | Leperkawn | h3x0** |
| 06:39:38 | ashridah | proper remote support, recording, fm support, better seamless playback. |
| 06:40:09 | ashridah | well, the H3x0 branch is mostly waiting on someone developing a bootloader, and getting an LCD driver running, then it's about the same as the H1x0 branch. |
| 06:40:19 | ashridah | the problem is, the people with BDM's have been busy |
| 06:40:33 | ashridah | so working on the bootloader isn't progressing at the moment |
| 06:40:51 | Leperkawn | Ah, I see. |
| 06:41:06 | Leperkawn | My h3x0 is sad, because it has no playlist mode. It really sucks. |
| 06:41:32 | ashridah | it will get done eventually, but not without a BDM, since that's the only efficient and safe way to dissect the iriver firmware and insert rockbox bootloading code |
| 06:41:53 | Leperkawn | Yeah. |
| 06:42:02 | ashridah | the LCD's likely to require a lot of manual poking via a BDM too |
| 06:42:30 | Leperkawn | Man, It's so annoying. I am not skilled at all in C or C programming, and I want to help. |
| 06:42:38 | Leperkawn | C plus plus** |
| 06:43:15 | Leperkawn | Yet there is nothing I can do to assist. |
| 06:43:24 | ashridah | well, getting the bootloader working relies far more on having embedded development experience. that said, a reasonable amount of the work has already been done, so far as the iriver h3x0 range is concerned |
| 06:43:47 | ashridah | but the iriver firmware itself needs to be analysed so that we can insert a rockbox bootloader into it |
| 06:44:05 | Leperkawn | Can you think of anything I can do besides sit on my ass and wait? =P |
| 06:44:23 | ashridah | buy people with H3x0's and experiences BDM's? :) |
| 06:45:02 | ashridah | (the other problem is that they actually have far more H1x0's available to tinker with than 3x0's) |
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| 06:45:28 | Leperkawn | Bleh |
| 06:45:40 | Leperkawn | I need to get unlazy and install chatzilla for FF. |
| 06:45:48 | Leperkawn | What was the last thing you said (since my last message) |
| 06:45:53 | ashridah | yick |
| 06:46:25 | Leperkawn | Yick? |
| 06:46:49 | ashridah | not a fan of chatzilla. |
| 06:46:53 | Leperkawn | Hm |
| 06:46:54 | Leperkawn | What do you use? |
| 06:46:55 | ashridah | been a long time since i've worked with it, admittedly |
| 06:47:08 | Leperkawn | But, what did you say prior to me signing off? |
| 06:47:20 | Leperkawn | Between my last message and when i logged off, I missed what you said. |
| 06:47:32 | ashridah | Leperkawn Can you think of anything I can do besides sit on my ass and wait? =P |
| 06:47:32 | ashridah | ashridah buy people with H3x0's and experiences BDM's? :) |
| 06:47:32 | ashridah | ashridah (the other problem is that they actually have far more H1x0's available to tinker with than 3x0's) |
| 06:48:02 | Leperkawn | I see. |
| 06:48:31 | Leperkawn | Someone told me on the forums that they did not need any more h3x0s. |
| 06:48:58 | ashridah | no, i imagine linus has a few by now |
| 06:49:45 | Leperkawn | Then there is truely nothing I can do besides testing the firmware when they release it. =( |
| 06:51:53 | Leperkawn | Ah well. Complaining will get me nowhere =P |
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| 10:36:39 | austriancoder | morning |
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| 12:00:14 | MO-Pantsu | Hey guys. When I plug my charger into my H140 I get a loud humming sound. |
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| 12:13:40 | ashridah | from the unit? even if it's off? |
| 12:13:43 | ashridah | how old is it? |
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| 12:14:44 | MO-Pantsu | If I plug the charger in supplied with the H140 I get hum from the headphone out |
| 12:15:13 | MO-Pantsu | unplug and back to pure silence. will try with it off hold on |
| 12:15:40 | ashridah | sounds like a ground loop someplace. |
| 12:19:36 | MO-Pantsu | OK if I plug it in the headphones I get minor hum when the unit is on. If I plug the charger in I get LOUD hum. Also if I switch the unit off and unplug the charger the LOUD hum remains. If I plug into the line out I get no hum. |
| 12:20:27 | MO-Pantsu | This is using a pair of powered speakers |
| 12:21:14 | MO-Pantsu | I want to use it on powered speakers at night with the PSU so I don't run the batterie down. |
| 12:21:22 | MO-Pantsu | Line out should be fine |
| 12:21:29 | bluebrother^ | hmm. Try turning the charger 180 degrees around in the AC socket |
| 12:21:40 | MO-Pantsu | UK plug |
| 12:21:47 | ashridah | heh. can't do that here :) |
| 12:21:54 | ashridah | but yeah, sounds like there's a ground loop or something |
| 12:22:01 | bluebrother^ | ok, then forget it ;-) |
| 12:22:10 | ashridah | are the speakers and the charger on the same powerboard or whatever? |
| 12:22:12 | bluebrother^ | in germany this helps sometimes. |
| 12:22:14 | MO-Pantsu | I will have to test a bit more |
| 12:22:28 | MO-Pantsu | yeah I think so |
| 12:22:36 | MO-Pantsu | to ashridah |
| 12:22:50 | MO-Pantsu | lets try something else..brb |
| 12:28:21 | MO-Pantsu | OK what I get is a low hum from both the headphone and line out when on with the PSU. I get a loud hum from the headphone out if the unit is off which changes tone slightly as the unit is powered on but once booted goes baco to the low hum. |
| 12:28:58 | MO-Pantsu | When the player is off with the PSU unplugged I get a hum too. |
| 12:30:05 | MO-Pantsu | When the player is on and booted without the PSU I get total silence from headphone and line out (Apart from when playing something of course). |
| 12:30:33 | MO-Pantsu | maybe linus will know. I gotta go anyhow. |
| 12:30:45 | MO-Pantsu | later |
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| 15:08:50 | t0mas | hi |
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| 15:51:51 | arfo____ | hey, I found a strange behaviour of RB after playing a shuffled playlist for some hours: |
| 15:51:51 | arfo____ | the controls need several seconds to react, changing the volume has no effect on the actual output and the volume dispaly (0-100) on status line is reactin really slow |
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| 18:12:23 | MasterShadow | hi |
| 18:13:41 | MasterShadow | anyone ger here? |
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| 18:31:01 | bluebrother^ | MasterShadow: yes if you mean german ;-) |
| 18:38:16 | Coldtoast | has the volume bug been fixed? |
| 18:38:28 | Coldtoast | don't have access to my h140 |
| 18:40:34 | bluebrother^ | Coldtoast: no. |
| 18:40:47 | bluebrother^ | tried this morning. Same behaviour :( |
| 18:46:44 | Coldtoast | k |
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| 19:51:12 | stevenm | Hello. Can someone possibly send me or upload the file 'rockboxui' for the iriver sim (X version please)? The one I build keeps crashing on me |
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| 20:05:16 | stevenm | ANYONE who has a working X11 sim, what version of Glibc are you using? |
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| 20:19:09 | stevenm | This is strange. Rockbox sim gives floating point exception on my laptop, but works fine on my desktop. Both are running Gentoo linux. It used to work everywhere |
| 20:19:18 | stevenm | Anyone know why this may be happening? |
| 20:20:40 | godzirra | ok.. question for everyone. I'm writing a plugin to pull a random post from a category and display it somewhere on the page. Now I'm trying to decide whether I should grab the whole post (and assume people will use it like I am, on a category that only short posts, like a quotes category, or whether I should take the first X number of characters, or take the first X number of lines... Any suggestions? |
| 20:20:50 | godzirra | oh.. the guy that asked what it was left. |
| 20:20:52 | godzirra | blah. |
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| 20:30:54 | lodesi | stevenm: i have the same pb on gentoo.. |
| 20:31:24 | lodesi | but noidea how to solve it :( |
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| 20:35:44 | stevenm | lodesi, my desktop, though, is horribly out of date |
| 20:36:17 | stevenm | lodesi, and it WAS working on gentoo earlier.. so my guess it they updated something and screwed us over. I am about to upgrade my glibc, and see if that breals it |
| 20:36:44 | lodesi | yes,it used to work here as well |
| 20:37:03 | lodesi | my installation is up to date |
| 20:37:39 | stevenm | let me just get the stupid thing to BUILD on desktop first.. then I ess with glibc. It is very frustrating, esp since the screen resolution on it is like 1024x768 |
| 20:38:42 | stevenm | Hey people, how do you start the sim WITHOUT sound support? |
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| 20:43:07 | lodesi | there is an ifdef at the begining of uisimulator/x11/sound.c, i'm trying without it |
| 20:43:28 | stevenm | thanks |
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| 20:43:57 | stevenm | there, now that I got this thing actually running again (and it takes up most of my screen) I am gonna emerge glibc and hope for the worst |
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| 20:44:12 | lodesi | lol |
| 20:44:26 | stevenm | all this trouble for a simple pitch bug |
| 20:44:32 | lodesi | still the same error :( |
| 20:44:35 | stevenm | does anyone here have matlab on hand? |
| 20:46:56 | stevenm | really not looking foreward to calculating 1024 numbers by hand over here.. |
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| 21:00:09 | stevenm | lodesi, looks like this glibc is amost built |
| 21:00:40 | lodesi | that was fast! |
| 21:01:22 | stevenm | lodesi, well, it is still building.. i thought it should have been done by now.. but have no idea. It's like, 15 megs |
| 21:01:51 | stevenm | and if i hear this song one more time, i think i will scream. pitch bend isn't supposed to be this annoying. |
| 21:02:30 | stevenm | I just moved it from 7 bits to 9 bits, hopefully it make it sound better. but of course, the table gets 4x bigger this way. and naturally, matlab isnt being helpful spitting all the values out |
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| 21:03:41 | lodesi | mmh..forme it's like you're speaking chinese, i don't have any idea how playback/decoding works :) |
| 21:05:48 | stevenm | lodesi, well... 10 minutes til glibc |
| 21:06:11 | lodesi | hehe |
| 21:06:59 | stevenm | and if its still works, then the floating point error must be caused by any of the other 10 thousand packages that need updating on here |
| 21:07:24 | lodesi | lol |
| 21:07:44 | lodesi | i'll check my logs to see what have been updated here |
| 21:08:13 | stevenm | yea, ever since I got my laptop, I pretty much stopped using the desktop. that did save my butt at work once, we needed some really outdated ebuilds |
| 21:09:21 | lodesi | hu, gentoo at work is a dangerous thing .. |
| 21:09:52 | lodesi | i have it on my laptop, and i can remember some bad week-end trying to recover a stable system... |
| 21:10:08 | stevenm | haha, tell me about it |
| 21:10:11 | lodesi | after a bad update :/ |
| 21:10:21 | stevenm | one time, out of the blue, they add that STUPID gentoo wireless config stuff |
| 21:11:10 | stevenm | new baselayout, i believe it was. since then, it will not start any wireless interface unless you read through their 100 page config file and figure out how to tell it to let you configure wifi MANUALLY using iwconfig |
| 21:11:26 | lodesi | lol |
| 21:11:46 | stevenm | or use the real config. again, desktop to the rescue- got the outdated version of net.eth0, and that saved the day |
| 21:12:52 | lodesi | speaking of the baselayout, it did change since my rockboxui doesn't works :( |
| 21:13:30 | stevenm | yea |
| 21:13:35 | stevenm | a lot of things did probably |
| 21:14:01 | stevenm | i did a quick strace, didnt see anything unusual... glibc, pthreads, etc |
| 21:14:08 | stevenm | i figure i start with glibc and friends |
| 21:14:28 | lodesi | yep a 'break main' in gdb doesn't catch anything... |
| 21:14:31 | stevenm | then maybe emerge world, and check if it still works, every 5 packages or so |
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| 21:15:13 | stevenm | maybe a specific call inside rockboxui causes this.. maybe shove some debug printfs in it (and catch the sigfpe) |
| 21:15:57 | stevenm | my roommate had some stuff give him the same floating point exceptions.. apparently it was nothing to do with math, but a bad combination of lib versions |
| 21:17:16 | stevenm | okay, it built |
| 21:18:55 | lodesi | a printf dosn't do anything :( |
| 21:19:16 | stevenm | lodesi, you probably need to catch the sigfpe |
| 21:19:19 | stevenm | but it doesn't matter |
| 21:19:33 | stevenm | i upgraded to glibc 2.3.5, and it worked still |
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| 21:19:38 | stevenm | then i recompiled rockboxui |
| 21:19:39 | stevenm | and ran it again |
| 21:19:46 | stevenm | and there it is- floating point exception |
| 21:20:04 | lodesi | arghh! |
| 21:20:11 | stevenm | lodesi, so there you have it- glibc 2.3.5 causes this |
| 21:21:03 | stevenm | here's a crazy idea- leave a copy of 2.3.4 inside the rockboxui directory (or give an LD_LIBRARY_PATH) and then emerge 2.3.5 for the rest of the system |
| 21:21:03 | lodesi | well, thx for the solution |
| 21:21:15 | stevenm | np |
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| 21:23:25 | lodesi | i think i'll try another crazy idea and emerge the masked latest version of glibc,with the hope it solve the rockbox problem, and doesn't break my system |
| 21:23:43 | stevenm | yea, that last part is kind of important |
| 21:23:59 | stevenm | I'd quickpkg the current working version first if I were you |
| 21:24:27 | lodesi | heu..quickwhat? |
| 21:25:28 | stevenm | lodesi, quickpkg. it takes that package's files and tars em up |
| 21:25:31 | lodesi | if it screws up, i boot with a knoppix and downgrade in a chroot |
| 21:25:37 | stevenm | that works |
| 21:25:57 | stevenm | be careful, glibc is a dangerous thing, esp with all the crap gentoo does to it |
| 21:26:18 | lodesi | lol |
| 21:27:55 | stevenm | oh no! the LATEST latest glibc ebuilds require GCC 3.4 |
| 21:28:13 | stevenm | "oops..." |
| 21:29:37 | stevenm | there's also a glibc-compat20 use flag |
| 21:29:48 | stevenm | if that means anything here |
| 21:30:41 | lodesi | glibc-compat20 - Enable the glibc-compat addon and configure the linuxthreads libc with −−without-__thread to enable full support of old binaries |
| 21:30:41 | lodesi | |
| 21:30:55 | lodesi | bad idea |
| 21:31:20 | stevenm | bad idea? |
| 21:31:42 | lodesi | no thread in libc, isn't that a bad idea? |
| 21:32:11 | stevenm | i've no idea.. |
| 21:32:20 | lodesi | lol |
| 21:32:31 | stevenm | what I want to know, why won't rockboxui work with glibc 2.3.5 in the first place |
| 21:34:04 | lodesi | those thing really too far from my knowledge |
| 21:34:14 | lodesi | i'm better at breaking my system |
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| 21:34:30 | lodesi | so emerge -u glibc ;) |
| 21:34:35 | ShadowMaster | ah bluebrother, buste da? |
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| 21:40:36 | stevenm | ShadowMaster, da |
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| 21:42:33 | bluebrother^ | ShadowMaster: yes ;-) |
| 21:43:18 | stevenm | lodesi, what is the file which contains main() for rockboxui ? |
| 21:43:41 | lodesi | uisimulator/x11/screenhack.c |
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| 21:48:02 | stevenm | lodesi, strange, I put a printf in there followed by an exit |
| 21:48:06 | stevenm | still crashes |
| 21:48:14 | stevenm | seems like it dies before even starting main |
| 21:48:47 | lodesi | yep, it could some xorg initialisation crashing |
| 21:49:29 | matsl | are you talking about the floating point exception? |
| 21:50:20 | lodesi | yes, floating point or arithmetic excetion |
| 21:50:28 | lodesi | exception |
| 21:50:52 | matsl | i get it before main after loading all libs |
| 21:50:59 | matsl | try strace |
| 21:51:30 | lodesi | i'm gonna have to emerge it first:) |
| 21:51:35 | stevenm | matsl, it works fine if you have glibc 2.3.4. It dies if you go to glibc 2.3.5 |
| 21:51:49 | matsl | ok. |
| 21:53:01 | matsl | stevenm: you also on gentoo? |
| 21:53:30 | stevenm | matsl, yes |
| 21:53:54 | stevenm | matsl, it was all working fine a few months ago. then glibc 2.3.5 came upon us |
| 21:54:19 | stevenm | matsl, and I just upgraded to glibc 2.3.5 on my other gentoo system and now it does the same floating point error also |
| 21:54:52 | matsl | ok. but is it glibc 2.3.5 just on gentoo or everywhere? |
| 21:55:04 | stevenm | matsl, I only have gentoo, so I do not know |
| 21:55:21 | lodesi | i'm also on gentoo |
| 21:56:57 | stevenm | go figure |
| 21:57:06 | stevenm | of course #gentoo is silent |
| 21:58:21 | matsl | I just can't think we spotted a glibc problem here. So many other programs working fine ... !? |
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| 21:58:51 | webguest66 | hi |
| 21:58:55 | ShadowMaster | hi |
| 21:59:05 | webguest66 | i found a strange thing with the fwpatcher.exe |
| 21:59:06 | ShadowMaster | bluebrother immernoch da? oder stevenm? xD |
| 21:59:17 | bluebrother^ | ja |
| 21:59:25 | ShadowMaster | :D |
| 21:59:42 | ShadowMaster | Kann man bei rockbox ne liste machen wie bei 1.65 nach Artist und Album etc? |
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| 22:00:23 | webguest66 | when i first start it up and go to browse, select my fw file, if i dont click patch and click browse again it comes up with an error message 2-3 times in a row and then all i can do is click on the x in top right to close it as it wont accept any other input |
| 22:01:56 | ShadowMaster | öhm noch da? |
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| 22:02:01 | stevenm | matsl, right, other stuff works, but why the heck wont the uisim work? |
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| 22:02:56 | bluebrother^ | hmm, dazu brauchst du die Tag-Database |
| 22:03:17 | webguest09 | why dont you guys speak english, that way we can all benefit |
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| 22:03:38 | bluebrother^ | webguest09: afaik ShadowMaster doesn't speak enough english |
| 22:03:48 | bluebrother^ | should I give a small translation? |
| 22:04:10 | stevenm | lodesi, well, glibc-2.3.5-r1 is almost built. |
| 22:04:20 | webguest09 | lots of non english users try to speak english here |
| 22:04:36 | bluebrother^ | I know ... |
| 22:04:45 | webguest09 | because not everyone is english |
| 22:05:42 | Moos | use the private message :) |
| 22:06:21 | bluebrother^ | I'll try ;-) Is the webclient capable of doing so? |
| 22:06:48 | Moos | of course |
| 22:07:28 | bluebrother^ | ok. I hope I didn't offend someone. |
| 22:07:43 | Moos | don't worries |
| 22:07:48 | webguest09 | nope, its just that i learn from discussions |
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| 22:07:56 | bluebrother^ | ;-) |
| 22:08:11 | Bger | stevenm: about UIsimulator |
| 22:08:31 | Bger | austriancoder had the same floating point exception 2-3 days ago |
| 22:08:50 | stevenm | Bger, yea, it won't run on glibc 2.3.5 (on gentoo anyway). 2.3.4 works fine |
| 22:08:52 | Bger | so i guess it's not of your build environment |
| 22:09:06 | Bger | heh |
| 22:09:08 | Bger | ok |
| 22:09:27 | stevenm | Bger, you figure if I compile glibc 2.3.4 and then do some LD_LIBRARY_PATH stuff, it will run? |
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| 22:09:48 | Bger | no, i don't |
| 22:09:57 | Bger | didn't know about this glibc thing |
| 22:10:28 | stevenm | Well I did a look at it quickly, and I tried my binary on a different computer and it ran fine |
| 22:10:49 | stevenm | I suspected glibc because my friend had some issues with it, also involving the same error |
| 22:10:54 | Bger | ok, i guess you're right |
| 22:11:09 | Bger | just tried to be helpful |
| 22:11:13 | stevenm | so I went to a machine with 2.3.4 on it and it worked. Then I installed glibc 2.3.5 on that computer, and it started dying |
| 22:11:22 | stevenm | Bger, thanks, i appreciate that |
| 22:11:32 | Bger | heh, not a big thing |
| 22:11:39 | Bger | anyway, bye ;) |
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| 22:12:01 | lodesi | ==29208== Process terminating with default action of signal 8 (SIGFPE) |
| 22:12:01 | lodesi | ==29208== Integer divide by zero at address 0xB00FC89C |
| 22:12:01 | lodesi | ==29208== at 0x1B8EC954: (within /lib/ld-2.3.5.so) |
| 22:12:13 | lodesi | with valgrind... |
| 22:12:54 | lodesi | then the stack is corrupted and it jumps to a random memory adress |
| 22:14:11 | stevenm | lodesi, woah!! seems to be working with glibc-2.3.5-r1 |
| 22:14:36 | stevenm | lodesi, I emerged glibc-2.3.5-r1 on my desktop and it looks like it is working |
| 22:14:43 | lodesi | mine will finish soon,i'll see |
| 22:16:26 | stevenm | lodesi, emerging it on my laptop, we'll see what happens |
| 22:16:54 | stevenm | in the meantime, i'm gonna go swim some laps. i be back in like, 20-30 min, it should be done then |
| 22:17:16 | lodesi | ok, see you |
| 22:17:57 | stevenm | bye |
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| 22:40:44 | lodesi | yes!!! |
| 22:41:23 | ShadowMaster | ah okay |
| 22:41:24 | lodesi | it's ok with glibc2.3.5-r1 as well here :) |
| 22:41:30 | ShadowMaster | I also try to speak english here |
| 22:41:39 | Bagder | you fixed the gentoo sim problemo? |
| 22:42:07 | lodesi | Bagder: yes it's o, now |
| 22:42:11 | ShadowMaster | what I wanted to know was how can I create a DB like that one from the 1.65 fw like artist-song-album |
| 22:42:14 | lodesi | ok |
| 22:42:36 | Bagder | so upgrading glibc is the thing to do? |
| 22:42:46 | Bagder | ShadowMaster: you read the wiki page? |
| 22:43:17 | lodesi | Bagder: yes, but you need t ounmask the latest version first |
| 22:43:29 | Bagder | ok |
| 22:43:33 | ShadowMaster | No I didnt |
| 22:43:36 | ShadowMaster | what wiki page? |
| 22:43:45 | Bagder | lodesi: I know several people got that problem |
| 22:43:55 | bluebrother^ | that page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagDatabase |
| 22:44:09 | bluebrother^ | I tried it before and it works pretty nice. |
| 22:44:29 | ShadowMaster | wow thx |
| 22:44:31 | ShadowMaster | okay i´ll also try it |
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| 22:52:39 | ShadowMaster | I have some troubles with the download from Java2 |
| 22:53:11 | ShadowMaster | :( |
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| 23:03:00 | stevenm | Bagder, upgraded my second machine to glibc-2.3.5-r1 and it works here as well |
| 23:03:13 | Bagder | goodie |
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| 23:04:22 | stevenm | I been out of the loop for a bit.. is it possible to play sound from a plugin? or does it have to be a codec? |
| 23:05:31 | Bagder | I think the metronome plugin works fine |
| 23:05:35 | Bagder | it plays sound |
| 23:07:04 | stevenm | Ah, all right |
| 23:07:31 | stevenm | I want to add *actual* sound support to my plugin, instead of just outputting a wav file |
| 23:07:31 | Bagder | I saw someone making a "drum machine" plugin too |
| 23:07:51 | Bagder | oh |
| 23:08:02 | Bagder | I guess the sound playing API still lacks |
| 23:08:04 | stevenm | Bagder, really? There is a whole bank of drum sounds within the midi soundset |
| 23:08:32 | stevenm | and the gus patchloader is in cvs already, so that can be useful |
| 23:08:35 | stevenm | hmm |
| 23:09:34 | stevenm | By the way, i think the new burger king (taco bell?) commercial, with the band and box of wings, they actually say 'rockbox' |
| 23:10:05 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:10:28 | stevenm | i wasn't even paying attention, then heard 'rockbox' and was like, 'hmm? eh?' |
| 23:12:04 | Bagder | so how come they say that? I mean what's the context? |
| 23:15:22 | stevenm | I think it was a box of food and there was a band playing rock music, supposedly due to the food |
| 23:15:40 | stevenm | advertising is a very bizzare thing |
| 23:15:52 | Bagder | hehe, yeah |
| 23:16:45 | stevenm | the extra rockbox logo at the bottom of the sim, is that the remote LCD? |
| 23:16:51 | Bagder | yeps |
| 23:17:11 | Bagder | if you enable logf logging, you'll get that in the remote lcd |
| 23:17:38 | Bagder | otherwise it isn't use much yet |
| 23:17:41 | stevenm | for some reason now, if you minimize the sim and restore it, the main screen isn't redrawn. the remote lcd part is, though |
| 23:17:49 | Bagder | oh |
| 23:18:00 | Bagder | odd |
| 23:20:24 | stevenm | there, finally, better pitchbend |
| 23:20:38 | stevenm | makes bad cheezy music from the 80s sound better |
| 23:20:43 | stevenm | (if that is even possible) |
| 23:22:35 | * | stevenm wonders if austriancoder uses gentoo |
| 23:22:42 | Bagder | he does |
| 23:23:00 | stevenm | well then there's his problem. saw his issue in the logs |
| 23:23:10 | Bagder | yes, matsl got it too, also using gentoo |
| 23:23:44 | stevenm | wow |
| 23:23:53 | stevenm | somehow though, i am not surprised |
| 23:24:19 | stevenm | gentoo developers have done much stranger things, causing much more breakage |
| 23:24:28 | stevenm | like breaking all the nodes on our farm at work |
| 23:24:51 | Bagder | hehe |
| 23:25:01 | stevenm | we were like, "oh, no problem, we'll just downgrade", but wait! the old ebuilds have been removed. oooops.. |
| 23:25:39 | Bagder | that sounds painful |
| 23:26:02 | stevenm | oh yes. we were saved by the fact that my other machine was so outdated that it had the old ebuild on it |
| 23:26:12 | stevenm | else we probably would have gotten canned |
| 23:26:16 | crashd | i guess kdevelop needs kde libs ;P |
| 23:26:25 | stevenm | or probably just really yelled at |
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| 23:58:19 | matsl | stevenm: did i get you right in that upgrading glibc to testing fixed the problem? |
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