| 00:03:15 | | Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") |
| 00:14:00 | | Join ]RowaN[ [0] (i=a2b0y@82-43-212-52.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 00:15:38 | ]RowaN[ | guys, ive replaygained my entire collection, but in rockbox when i go to the "who ID3 info" screen from WPS context menu, it says "no info" for track gain & album gain. any ideas? |
| 00:15:58 | ]RowaN[ | "show ID3 info", even |
| 00:27:08 | | Quit hanklords (Remote closed the connection) |
| 00:31:27 | ender` | ]RowaN[: did you actually use ID3 tags? AFAIK, ReplayGain writes APEv2 tags by default (and so does foobar) |
| 00:36:08 | Craig__ | anybody out there use ID3 browse mode? |
| 00:42:13 | | Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") |
| 00:51:29 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:00 |
| 01:14:01 | * | HCl reads the technical gobbilygook talk between amiconn and LinusN, and pretends he understands |
| 01:14:07 | HCl | sup? |
| 01:14:08 | HCl | o.o |
| 01:17:38 | * | LinusN falls asleep |
| 01:17:52 | LinusN | nite all |
| 01:17:56 | | Part LinusN |
| 01:20:16 | ]RowaN[ | all my tracks have id3 tags yes, written in winamp.. foorbar2000 added the replaygain tags tho |
| 01:20:30 | ]RowaN[ | that explains it then i guess |
| 01:20:39 | ]RowaN[ | and rockbox uses the apev2 replaygain tags? |
| 01:21:02 | Moos | nope |
| 01:21:19 | Moos | id3 tags |
| 01:21:48 | ]RowaN[ | so, how can i write id3 replaygain tags? |
| 01:22:26 | Moos | configure foobar for it writes tag to id3 |
| 01:23:00 | ender` | any chance to get rockbox to support apev2? |
| 01:23:06 | Moos | by default is APE, just change this and it'll work like a charme ;) |
| 01:23:53 | Moos | ender: there is a patch in the tracker but any dev add it to Rb |
| 01:24:18 | ]RowaN[ | moos where in the options of foorbar please? |
| 01:24:36 | ender` | look for Input->Standard Inputs |
| 01:25:26 | ]RowaN[ | its set to "ApeV2 & ID3v1" .. so it should have written id3 tags afterall |
| 01:25:33 | ]RowaN[ | but rockbox doesnt cant see them |
| 01:25:42 | ender` | id3v1 doesn't support much |
| 01:25:48 | Moos | id3 v2 with RB |
| 01:25:50 | ender` | only artist, title album and year |
| 01:25:59 | ]RowaN[ | id3 v2 ah ok |
| 01:26:30 | ]RowaN[ | hmm it says it gonna stip all other tags now if i write id3v2 info to any file |
| 01:26:32 | * | ender` 'll just wait for the patch to make it in the main tree :) |
| 01:27:11 | | Quit ReKleSS ("Q: What do you call someone with herpes, AIDS, syphilis, and gonorrhea? A: An incurable romantic") |
| 01:27:19 | * | ]RowaN[ is scared |
| 01:27:38 | ender` | you won't loose anything, just all retagging will take much longer |
| 01:28:00 | Moos | exactly |
| 01:28:06 | ender` | also, you'll have to rewrite all tags |
| 01:28:18 | Moos | yes it is |
| 01:28:29 | ender` | select all files, choose properties, add and delete a value, then update the files |
| 01:29:04 | ]RowaN[ | ah if i select "ID3V2 & ID3V1" then it probably wont touch the existing tags and be able to write replaygain just to id3v2 without messing anything else around |
| 01:30:16 | Moos | Rowan: try with just few songs or just 1 song and you'll see :) |
| 01:31:09 | ender` | btw, how does rockbox handle low battery conditions? does it poweroff before the battery runs out completely, or does the hardware do this automatically? |
| 01:32:04 | Moos | just warning if I remenber good |
| 01:32:24 | Moos | not included in bootloader one fonction like original fw |
| 01:32:33 | Moos | currently :) |
| 01:34:23 | | Quit Craig__ ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]") |
| 01:36:13 | Moos | time to go to sleep 1h35am here in Paris and wake up at 6h am :( |
| 01:36:23 | Moos | good night all |
| 01:36:34 | | Part Moos |
| 02:00 |
| 02:20:53 | | Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 02:32:46 | | Join midk [0] (n=Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 02:51:30 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 02:54:29 | | Quit ender` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 03:00 |
| 03:40:49 | | Quit ]RowaN[ () |
| 03:52:31 | | Quit midk ("Leaving") |
| 03:52:37 | | Join midk [0] (n=Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) |
| 04:00 |
| 04:05:51 | | Join QT_ [0] (i=as@madwifi/users/area51) |
| 04:08:54 | | Quit hicks (Remote closed the connection) |
| 04:17:39 | | Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 04:19:36 | | Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the Cadillac of all clients") |
| 04:48:08 | | Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 04:51:31 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 04:55:55 | | Quit solex (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 05:00 |
| 05:01:15 | | Join solex [0] (n=jrschulz@d001228.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 05:50:15 | | Join zipr [0] (n=4421b263@labb.contactor.se) |
| 05:55:03 | | Quit Strath ("Client closed") |
| 05:56:19 | | Quit zipr ("CGI:IRC") |
| 06:00 |
| 06:19:42 | | Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A8E3A2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:51:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 06:52:02 | | Join Garrett [0] (i=1000@dial-153-201-11-01.ind.iquest.net) |
| 06:53:59 | | Quit Garrett (Client Quit) |
| 07:00 |
| 07:01:43 | | Join Garrett [0] (i=1000@dial-153-201-11-01.ind.iquest.net) |
| 07:02:12 | Garrett | Hello all, if anyone's here. |
| 08:00 |
| 08:45:33 | | Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a118.otenet.gr) |
| 08:45:53 | Garrett | Hello. |
| 08:51:38 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:00 |
| 09:30:07 | | Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-146.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 10:00 |
| 10:01:51 | | Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h244n6c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 10:09:44 | | Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@tm.213.143.74.124.dc.telemach.net) |
| 10:13:06 | | Join silencer [0] (n=silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) |
| 10:18:57 | | Quit silencer_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 10:39:04 | | Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) |
| 10:44:55 | | Join bumi [0] (n=blabla@bzq-80-22-250.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 10:45:16 | bumi | hey |
| 10:45:19 | bumi | anyone here? |
| 10:45:33 | bumi | Bger? |
| 10:51:41 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:57:02 | | Quit Garrett (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 11:00 |
| 11:20:53 | | Join hanklords [0] (n=hank@gov91-1-82-234-90-79.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:51:22 | | Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") |
| 11:58:46 | | Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") |
| 12:00 |
| 12:04:58 | | Quit bumi ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 12:06:29 | | Join Sucka [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-155-174.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:14:09 | | Join leftright [0] (n=d4406110@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:14:25 | | Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
| 12:30:58 | leftright | gapless is very good, |
| 12:32:39 | crwl | yes, |
| 12:34:30 | Moos | thanks to Lear for improvment :) |
| 12:44:47 | | Join tandoc [0] (n=harbl@c210-49-191-25.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 12:48:29 | tandoc | anyone alive in here? |
| 12:49:01 | | Join Master-Shadow [0] (n=KdTMaste@pD9533DB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:49:11 | Master-Shadow | hiho |
| 12:51:43 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 12:58:23 | | Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 12:59:16 | | Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:00 |
| 13:01:50 | | Join bumi [0] (n=blabla@bzq-80-22-250.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 13:03:07 | | Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
| 13:06:26 | | Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a118.otenet.gr) |
| 13:18:12 | | Join yes [0] (n=User@a81-14-130-52.net-htp.de) |
| 13:23:10 | | Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p54AAD861.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:29:55 | Master-Shadow | where can I see which update from rockbox is on my player and which is the newest? |
| 13:30:31 | midk | hmm... menu -> info -> rockbox info, i think. |
| 13:30:34 | midk | or credits, yeah. |
| 13:30:43 | midk | shows on the bottom the date of the build, you can get the latest daily or release from the site. |
| 13:30:59 | Master-Shadow | hm and where? |
| 13:31:02 | leftright | when you switch it on, it will flash the current version just as the Rockbox logo appears, but uts very quick |
| 13:31:10 | Master-Shadow | I have found this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort |
| 13:31:21 | Master-Shadow | but I can t see there what the newest build is |
| 13:31:35 | Moos | daily build page |
| 13:31:44 | midk | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 13:31:59 | Master-Shadow | and than? |
| 13:32:27 | midk | if it's newer, install it? |
| 13:32:52 | Moos | choose lastest with photo of your model |
| 13:33:14 | leftright | go to the bottom of the daily build page, and download the Bleeding Edge build |
| 13:33:17 | Moos | this is the build of the day (update every 6h am) |
| 13:33:22 | Master-Shadow | ah okay I see :) |
| 13:33:41 | Moos | or choose the bleeding edge build |
| 13:33:47 | Master-Shadow | So If I have a ihp-140 I must chose this? http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h120/rockbox-h120-20050813.zip |
| 13:33:49 | Moos | for the very lastest |
| 13:34:11 | Moos | you can try the bleeding edge buil |
| 13:34:17 | Master-Shadow | whats that? |
| 13:34:24 | leftright | daily build |
| 13:34:31 | Moos | for have got the modifs of this morning eg |
| 13:34:34 | leftright | not bleeding edge |
| 13:35:11 | Master-Shadow | I think http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h120/rockbox-h120-20050813.zip is the newest one? |
| 13:35:15 | Moos | Master-Shadow: depand of you, choose daily or bleeding edge |
| 13:35:22 | leftright | no, thats the dail |
| 13:35:39 | leftright | the latest is the bleeding edge at the bottom of the page |
| 13:35:52 | Master-Shadow | ah okay than should I download this :D |
| 13:37:12 | Master-Shadow | so the bleeding egde is at every time the newest update? |
| 13:37:19 | leftright | yes |
| 13:37:40 | leftright | when they add a patch, get it from the bleeding edge |
| 13:38:17 | leftright | they then incorporate all patches into one for the daliy release at 0600am |
| 13:38:36 | Master-Shadow | okay Now I have copied every file |
| 13:38:42 | Master-Shadow | I just need to restart my pl,ayer? |
| 13:38:47 | leftright | yes |
| 13:39:09 | Master-Shadow | nothing like "Update Firmware" or something? |
| 13:39:14 | leftright | no |
| 13:39:19 | leftright | just restart |
| 13:39:33 | Master-Shadow | and how can I see if the installation was succesfull? |
| 13:39:46 | leftright | does it work :) |
| 13:39:49 | Master-Shadow | :D |
| 13:40:42 | leftright | the version number is displayed when the rockbox logo appears, the version number is very briefly displayed, you mudt read it quickly |
| 13:41:16 | leftright | below the rockbox logo to be exact |
| 13:41:23 | midk | just go to menu - info - credits, and it shows it for a couple seconds. |
| 13:41:58 | leftright | no it doesnt show bledding edge version there |
| 13:42:09 | | Join hicks [0] (n=hicks@zeus.mups.co.uk) |
| 13:42:25 | midk | i don't think it's changed since i've used rockbox |
| 13:42:28 | leftright | sorry, you're right it does |
| 13:42:31 | midk | it shows the logo and the text. |
| 13:42:37 | leftright | :) |
| 13:42:39 | midk | :) |
| 13:43:36 | Moos | leftright: it show the time stamp of the build ;) |
| 13:43:54 | leftright | me runs and hides |
| 13:45:56 | Master-Shadow | 050813-1026 Is my version |
| 13:45:56 | | Quit Master-Shadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:45:59 | midk | *searches for leftright* |
| 13:46:36 | tandoc | anyone here familiar with ata.c? |
| 13:50:38 | | Join LinusN [0] (N=linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:50:44 | tandoc | linus :D |
| 13:50:51 | LinusN | tandoc: i know ata.c pretty well |
| 13:50:59 | tandoc | which part of ata.c did you edit to remove the check registers |
| 13:51:05 | tandoc | so i can compile myself |
| 13:51:34 | LinusN | i have an idea for an experiment |
| 13:51:55 | LinusN | is your dev env up and running? |
| 13:52:07 | tandoc | kinda, but i installed the wrong thing |
| 13:52:18 | LinusN | wrong thing? |
| 13:52:32 | tandoc | i didn't build my own crosscompiler |
| 13:52:39 | tandoc | 'WARNING These versions do not work correctly to build current rockbox code.' |
| 13:52:42 | tandoc | i didn't see that |
| 13:53:12 | LinusN | as far as i know, it's only the Dumb codec that fails, right? |
| 13:53:36 | tandoc | i have no idea ;) |
| 13:53:44 | LinusN | you haven't tried building? |
| 13:53:51 | tandoc | i did, then i saw the warning msg |
| 13:54:02 | tandoc | and i didn't know which part of atc.c to remove |
| 13:55:37 | LinusN | tandoc: in the file tools/configure, line 526 |
| 13:55:45 | LinusN | remove "dumb" |
| 13:55:59 | LinusN | then reconfigure |
| 13:57:52 | tandoc | the one under 'archos="h120"'? |
| 13:58:41 | LinusN | yes |
| 13:59:00 | tandoc | still, which part of ata.c do i remove? |
| 13:59:19 | LinusN | tandoc: first things first |
| 13:59:23 | tandoc | okay >.> |
| 13:59:30 | LinusN | build a complete firmware and install it |
| 13:59:40 | LinusN | just to verify that everything works |
| 13:59:58 | LinusN | then we'll modify ata.c |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:18 | LinusN | because i suspect there is a bug in ata.c |
| 14:00:41 | bumi | hey Linus |
| 14:00:43 | bumi | whats up? |
| 14:00:56 | LinusN | not much, working on the fm radio |
| 14:01:05 | bumi | say, did you see that remote patch? the one at misticriver? |
| 14:01:06 | bumi | cool |
| 14:01:08 | bumi | FM |
| 14:01:08 | bumi | :D |
| 14:01:18 | LinusN | yes i've seen that patch |
| 14:01:34 | bumi | why isnt it in the CVS? |
| 14:01:44 | tandoc | compiling now |
| 14:01:44 | LinusN | because it's a hack |
| 14:02:24 | tandoc | ermm |
| 14:02:27 | tandoc | it failed. |
| 14:02:30 | LinusN | damn |
| 14:02:41 | tandoc | i'll install that crosscompiler |
| 14:02:48 | LinusN | what was the message? |
| 14:03:21 | bumi | what do you mean its a hack? |
| 14:03:29 | bumi | its porly programed? |
| 14:03:35 | tandoc | err.. /home/tandoc/rockbox-13-08/tools/convbdf: Command not found |
| 14:03:37 | tandoc | and |
| 14:03:44 | LinusN | bumi: it's a quick and dirty solution |
| 14:03:49 | bumi | oh, ok |
| 14:03:55 | LinusN | tandoc: you didn't follow the instructions |
| 14:04:04 | tandoc | i know >.> |
| 14:04:15 | bumi | any clue when real remote sepport will be added? |
| 14:04:20 | bumi | and in that note |
| 14:04:29 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 14:04:42 | LinusN | number 5 |
| 14:04:45 | bumi | is there a msi installer or something like that for the entire rockbox devkit |
| 14:04:54 | LinusN | bumi: yes |
| 14:06:04 | LinusN | bluechip has put together a "devkit" on his home page: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
| 14:07:22 | tandoc | should i just use that >.> |
| 14:07:32 | LinusN | your choice |
| 14:07:46 | LinusN | i don't use it |
| 14:07:57 | LinusN | but many others do |
| 14:08:03 | tandoc | okay, i've done which sh-elf-gcc |
| 14:08:06 | tandoc | and it's not found |
| 14:08:11 | tandoc | do i just run setup.exe again |
| 14:08:28 | LinusN | tandoc: you're not a developer, are you? |
| 14:08:35 | tandoc | nope... |
| 14:09:11 | LinusN | did you read this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 14:09:18 | tandoc | yes |
| 14:09:21 | tandoc | i followed that |
| 14:10:03 | LinusN | hmm, i see now that it isn't *entirely* clear |
| 14:10:35 | LinusN | step 3 |
| 14:10:44 | LinusN | the iriver has a coldfire cpu |
| 14:10:55 | tandoc | yeah, i installed the coldfire packages |
| 14:11:10 | LinusN | tandoc okay, i've done which sh-elf-gcc |
| 14:11:33 | LinusN | so you said |
| 14:12:17 | LinusN | sh-elf-gcc is the sh1 compiler |
| 14:12:31 | tandoc | no wait |
| 14:12:34 | tandoc | i have m68k |
| 14:12:35 | tandoc | >.> |
| 14:13:03 | LinusN | so once again, how far does it get when you compile? |
| 14:13:48 | tandoc | oh wait |
| 14:13:50 | tandoc | nevermind |
| 14:13:54 | tandoc | i once again didn't follow instructions |
| 14:16:03 | * | HCl rubs his nose |
| 14:16:17 | | Quit bumi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:16:38 | tandoc | okay it just failed at calculator.c |
| 14:19:08 | tandoc | calculator.c: In function 'typingProcess': |
| 14:19:28 | tandoc | calculator.c:1087: error: insn does not satisfy its contraints |
| 14:28:49 | | Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-155-174.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:34:27 | | Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) |
| 14:36:54 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK tandoc |
| 14:36:54 | tandoc | ( LinusN ): okay, successfully compiled it |
| 14:36:55 | | Join Toni1 [0] (n=91febf06@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:37:01 | Toni1 | hello |
| 14:37:08 | yes | hello |
| 14:37:27 | | Part tvelocity ("Leaving") |
| 14:37:59 | | Join NekoNoNiaow [0] (n=NekoNoNi@dyn-83-153-25-140.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 14:38:32 | Toni1 | I found, why the fm tuner does not detect any station |
| 14:38:42 | Toni1 | (on iriver) |
| 14:38:55 | NekoNoNiaow | hi, ladies and gentlemen |
| 14:39:09 | Toni1 | hi |
| 14:39:19 | NekoNoNiaow | (though, i'd bet the percentage of ladies is quite small here :) ) |
| 14:39:21 | yes | hi NekoNoNiaow |
| 14:39:45 | Toni1 | It seems, that the tuner on irver uses a different crystal |
| 14:40:28 | NekoNoNiaow | is there anyone familiar with gmini development here ? |
| 14:40:59 | Toni1 | XTAL have to be set to "1" |
| 14:41:23 | Toni1 | I don't |
| 14:41:52 | | Join Master-Shadow [0] (n=KdTMaste@pD9533DB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:42:22 | Toni1 | I think gemini development has stopped a few month ago in rockbox |
| 14:43:45 | NekoNoNiaow | it seems so |
| 14:44:13 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm trying to compile gemoss under mac os x, so i'm getting a few problems :) |
| 14:45:00 | Toni1 | Bye all |
| 14:45:02 | | Part Toni1 |
| 14:49:49 | | Join patcher [0] (n=50837345@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:50:50 | | Join silencer_ [0] (n=silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) |
| 14:50:52 | patcher | Hi! I would like to report recent crashes of my iriver rockbox daily build. Is this the right place? |
| 14:51:45 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:52:53 | patcher | Well, ok. Here I go anyway :) |
| 14:52:58 | NekoNoNiaow | the faq should answer your question ;) |
| 14:53:43 | NekoNoNiaow | gasp, I forgot my old nickname's password |
| 14:54:21 | NekoNoNiaow | bbl |
| 14:54:24 | | Quit patcher (Client Quit) |
| 14:54:25 | | Quit NekoNoNiaow () |
| 14:54:41 | | Join NekoNoNiaow [0] (n=NekoNoNi@dyn-83-153-25-140.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 14:54:50 | | Join patcher [0] (n=50837345@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:55:58 | patcher | My details: iriver H120, v1.65 EU, Rockbox daily build: rockbox-h120-20050813 |
| 14:57:36 | patcher | Error: when skipping a song via the remote, sometimes (could not reliable reporduce the error) my iriver crashes with disk activity continuing and the following error message: |
| 14:57:58 | patcher | I03: AddrErr at 31023304 |
| 14:58:32 | patcher | Do you need any more details? Is this bug known? |
| 14:59:25 | | Quit leftright ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 15:00 |
| 15:00:19 | | Join Strath [0] (i=mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a251.wi.tds.net) |
| 15:06:27 | | Part patcher |
| 15:17:28 | LinusN | tandoc: sorry, been on the phone |
| 15:17:45 | LinusN | i see you managed to compile it |
| 15:20:47 | tandoc | yup |
| 15:20:53 | tandoc | was playing cs >.> |
| 15:21:34 | tandoc | so what's next? |
| 15:22:59 | LinusN | i guess you have ata: -32 now, right? |
| 15:23:37 | tandoc | erm |
| 15:23:39 | tandoc | lemme load it |
| 15:24:40 | | Join nobby [0] (n=nobby@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:25:31 | | Quit Master-Shadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 15:26:20 | tandoc | yeah |
| 15:26:22 | tandoc | ata error |
| 15:26:39 | LinusN | ok, open ata.c |
| 15:26:52 | tandoc | yup |
| 15:26:53 | LinusN | line 1379 |
| 15:27:02 | LinusN | tandoc okay, i've done which sh-elf-gcc |
| 15:27:05 | LinusN | if (hard_reset && !wait_for_bsy()) |
| 15:27:07 | LinusN | sorry |
| 15:27:22 | LinusN | remove "hard_reset &&" |
| 15:27:36 | LinusN | if (!wait_for_bsy()) |
| 15:29:10 | tandoc | coolies |
| 15:29:10 | tandoc | thx |
| 15:29:27 | LinusN | did it work? |
| 15:29:53 | tandoc | we'll see... |
| 15:36:33 | | Join Lost-ash [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-65.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 15:36:53 | tandoc | hmm |
| 15:36:55 | tandoc | still happens |
| 15:36:59 | tandoc | i'll try compiling again |
| 15:37:14 | LinusN | don't |
| 15:37:54 | LinusN | do like this instead: |
| 15:38:44 | LinusN | remove everything from the "symptom fix" comment up to, but not including, the "return 0;" |
| 15:39:07 | LinusN | the first fix was just a test |
| 15:39:30 | | Join Toni1 [0] (n=91febf28@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:39:35 | LinusN | hi Toni1 |
| 15:39:38 | Toni1 | Hi Linus |
| 15:39:49 | Toni1 | I managed to get stations |
| 15:39:51 | tandoc | but leave the '}' below the return 0? or remove that too |
| 15:39:54 | LinusN | i have your i2c running on my device |
| 15:40:06 | Toni1 | ah I see |
| 15:40:09 | LinusN | tandoc: "up to, but not including" |
| 15:40:15 | tandoc | okay okay |
| 15:40:23 | Toni1 | Now the frequencies have to be recalculated |
| 15:40:39 | | Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:40:45 | tandoc | done |
| 15:40:52 | Toni1 | LinusN: Do you know how to do it |
| 15:42:52 | | Part amiconn |
| 15:43:07 | LinusN | Toni1: i think you divide by 32768 instead of 50000 |
| 15:44:11 | Toni1 | LinusN: OK, I will try |
| 15:45:46 | tandoc | do i need to edit anything else? |
| 15:45:56 | LinusN | tandoc: n |
| 15:45:58 | LinusN | o |
| 15:46:05 | tandoc | compile failed |
| 15:46:37 | LinusN | what does it say? |
| 15:47:06 | tandoc | drivers/ata.c: In function 'set_features'; |
| 15:47:35 | tandoc | drivers/sta.c:1359: error: 'rc' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 15:47:39 | tandoc | *ata |
| 15:48:23 | tandoc | erm one sec |
| 15:48:37 | tandoc | highlighting in my command prompt is acting up |
| 15:48:37 | LinusN | you must have deleted a lot more than i told you |
| 15:48:52 | tandoc | =___= |
| 15:49:09 | LinusN | 8 lines |
| 15:49:14 | tandoc | ohh |
| 15:49:14 | tandoc | yeah |
| 15:49:16 | tandoc | way too much |
| 15:51:15 | tandoc | 8 lines from (and including) the symptom fix comment is 'return -1' |
| 15:51:39 | tandoc | OHHHH |
| 15:51:41 | tandoc | you said up |
| 15:51:43 | tandoc | so i went up |
| 15:51:51 | tandoc | omfg i'm stupid >.< |
| 15:52:39 | LinusN | :-) |
| 15:53:39 | tandoc | and this is why i don't run *nix... |
| 15:53:54 | LinusN | because you're stupid? |
| 15:54:30 | tandoc | that, and it'd take me forever to get stuff running... |
| 15:54:44 | tandoc | unless it had an rpm :D |
| 15:56:45 | tandoc | ata error: -10 |
| 15:57:40 | Toni1 | LinusN: Calculation works great, now "only" the sound is missing. |
| 15:57:42 | LinusN | really? |
| 15:57:49 | Toni1 | :-) |
| 15:57:51 | LinusN | tandoc: really? |
| 15:57:54 | tandoc | yeah |
| 15:58:03 | tandoc | oh wait |
| 15:58:10 | tandoc | damnit |
| 15:58:16 | tandoc | i think i took more off than i needed to |
| 15:59:13 | LinusN | Toni1: i'm working on the sound |
| 15:59:44 | Toni1 | LinusN: Goodie. |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:14 | Toni1 | Have to leave. Bye all. |
| 16:00:17 | | Part Toni1 |
| 16:04:26 | tandoc | ( LinusN ): works now |
| 16:05:22 | tandoc | thx :) |
| 16:09:21 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 16:09:21 | * | Lost-ash ponders constructing a large EMP device |
| 16:09:36 | Lost-ash | some fuckwits are playing music at full volume a few doors away |
| 16:09:53 | Lost-ash | i'm almost willing to nuke the entire block's electrical equipment just to shut them up |
| 16:10:18 | | Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-123-65.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 16:10:31 | tandoc | apartment complex or houses? |
| 16:12:12 | ashridah | nah, there's a "community center" across the street that keeps getting booked for private functions |
| 16:12:27 | ashridah | they were letting off fireworks too. nevermind that those are completely illegal here |
| 16:12:48 | tandoc | dial 000 |
| 16:12:50 | tandoc | :D |
| 16:12:56 | ashridah | considered it |
| 16:13:04 | ashridah | but i cbf'ed dropping my modem connection :) |
| 16:13:20 | tandoc | police can break up functions that aren't registered and if it starts disrupting the neighbourhood |
| 16:13:33 | tandoc | well, it is saturday night, sif anyone is asleep yet D: |
| 16:14:05 | ashridah | fuck sleep. i'm trying to work. can't work with DOOFDOOFDOOFDOOFDOOFDOOFDOOOOOF flooding through the walls |
| 16:14:08 | | Join t0mas [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 16:14:14 | t0mas | hi |
| 16:14:18 | t0mas | Linus around? |
| 16:14:23 | tandoc | put on some headphones and listen to music |
| 16:14:50 | t0mas | (if I quit... just wait a moment... web/cgi client :)) |
| 16:15:02 | ashridah | tandoc: nah. trying to keep down on the headphone usage atm. might just retire to my room and turn on the tv instead. |
| 16:15:09 | t0mas | I've read the log from yesterday evening |
| 16:15:13 | tandoc | nothing good on |
| 16:15:32 | ashridah | tandoc: stopped raining on the cricket yet? |
| 16:15:33 | tandoc | ah there's rugby i guess |
| 16:15:45 | tandoc | nah |
| 16:15:46 | tandoc | don't think so |
| 16:15:47 | LinusN | t0mas: i'm here |
| 16:15:53 | tandoc | they seem to be showing highlights |
| 16:15:54 | tandoc | with music |
| 16:16:06 | ashridah | good. never thought i'd hope to see australia get saved by rain :{ |
| 16:16:19 | tandoc | lol |
| 16:16:29 | tandoc | i'm surprised mcgrath is playing |
| 16:16:31 | t0mas | luck |
| 16:16:35 | t0mas | erm... |
| 16:16:37 | t0mas | f*ck |
| 16:16:45 | ashridah | anyway, i'm off. |
| 16:16:49 | | Quit ashridah ("attempted sleep.") |
| 16:16:49 | t0mas | my text input box has disappeared :X |
| 16:16:53 | t0mas | brb |
| 16:16:56 | | Quit t0mas (Client Quit) |
| 16:17:00 | | Join t0mas [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 16:17:10 | t0mas | ah, there it is again :) |
| 16:17:29 | t0mas | Linus: I was reading about your I2C and pullup discussion with amiconn |
| 16:17:44 | t0mas | Austriancodec has written some I2C patch, have you read that too? |
| 16:17:49 | t0mas | *coder |
| 16:18:02 | | Part yes ("bye") |
| 16:18:48 | LinusN | t0mas: yes i spoke to him earlier in the same log |
| 16:19:36 | t0mas | ah, ok... I missed that |
| 16:19:47 | t0mas | maybe we should ask him to check his broken player? |
| 16:19:59 | t0mas | if he has a pullup there is something wrong with some batch of irivers |
| 16:20:09 | LinusN | god knows how his driver worked though, without the pullup |
| 16:20:50 | t0mas | I2C has this "hardware AND" right? |
| 16:20:56 | t0mas | there is the pull-up for? |
| 16:21:10 | LinusN | yes |
| 16:21:23 | t0mas | so it isn't I2C compatible? |
| 16:21:47 | t0mas | or iRiver has done something we haven't found yet... |
| 16:22:18 | LinusN | iriver probably bit-bangs, like we do now |
| 16:22:34 | t0mas | is that explained somewhere in the log? |
| 16:23:03 | LinusN | meaning we control the i2c lines by hand, with gpio |
| 16:23:11 | LinusN | and not use the i2c controller |
| 16:23:12 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 16:23:23 | LinusN | btw, the controller worked just fine when i added a pullup |
| 16:23:39 | t0mas | someone at iriver goofed up then |
| 16:25:03 | t0mas | but what's the cost of doing it "manually" ? |
| 16:25:13 | t0mas | not much i think? |
| 16:25:36 | LinusN | no, just a tiny little extra cpu |
| 16:25:43 | LinusN | not a big deal |
| 16:26:32 | t0mas | hm... then the only "open" problem is why the other driver has worked on some devices |
| 16:27:08 | t0mas | it doesn't work on yours (w/o adding the pull-up) |
| 16:27:20 | t0mas | I can test it on mine if we have some testcode... |
| 16:27:43 | LinusN | it's the same with toni1 |
| 16:29:08 | * | LinusN is listening to radio |
| 16:29:20 | t0mas | with the added resistor? |
| 16:29:27 | t0mas | or have you already written a new driver? |
| 16:29:28 | LinusN | no, bitbanging |
| 16:29:38 | LinusN | toni1 wrote it a few days ago |
| 16:29:39 | t0mas | patch availible somewhere? |
| 16:29:45 | LinusN | not yet |
| 16:30:39 | LinusN | patience, grasshopper :-) |
| 16:30:59 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 16:31:04 | t0mas | I like radio too ;) |
| 16:31:10 | t0mas | and my iriver firmware doesn't boot anymore :) |
| 16:31:51 | LinusN | will commit shortly |
| 16:35:43 | | Quit tandoc () |
| 16:35:59 | t0mas | hm... |
| 16:36:27 | t0mas | reading the datasheet :) |
| 16:36:44 | t0mas | and wondering... what's the japanese band? |
| 16:37:11 | t0mas | (byte 4, bit 5) |
| 16:39:46 | LinusN | i dunno |
| 16:40:51 | | Quit NekoNoNiaow () |
| 16:42:29 | t0mas | "The normal tuning range of a car radio designed for use in Japan is from 76 to 90 MHz." |
| 16:42:43 | t0mas | international is 87 - 108 right? |
| 16:42:54 | LinusN | think so |
| 16:44:04 | t0mas | that's intresting |
| 16:44:15 | t0mas | dutch police radio is just below 85 afaik |
| 16:46:07 | t0mas | ah.. |
| 16:46:18 | t0mas | 86,30 to 86,77 |
| 16:46:22 | t0mas | depending on your location |
| 16:51:49 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:00 |
| 17:06:35 | | Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h244n6c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 17:09:12 | | Join NekoNoNiaow [0] (n=NekoNoNi@dyn-83-153-25-140.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 17:10:32 | * | LinusN goes to the supermarket |
| 17:18:12 | NekoNoNiaow | i'd have a question for autoconf/configure experts if there are any here :) |
| 17:20:27 | NekoNoNiaow | ? |
| 17:20:29 | t0mas | hm |
| 17:20:36 | t0mas | well... I'm surely not an expert |
| 17:20:44 | t0mas | but I have used it for quite some time now :) |
| 17:21:00 | NekoNoNiaow | you certainly know more than me :) |
| 17:21:10 | t0mas | well... ask your question :) |
| 17:21:21 | t0mas | I'll get a drink in the meanwhile |
| 17:23:24 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm on mac os x right now, trying to compile gemoss the gmini emulator, it doesn't compile because of a symbol (O_LARGEFILE) which doesn't exist on mac os x, so i've modified the source so that if XP_MACOSX is defined, then that symbol isn't used. It should be the case since XP_MACOSX seems to be Apple's standard define. |
| 17:23:44 | t0mas | ok |
| 17:24:21 | | Join Lunchb0x [0] (n=dressedt@pcp04632374pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:24:25 | NekoNoNiaow | However, it's not defined at all, so i'm wondering where i should start inserting code/config stuff into the autoxxx files so that when a mac ox x platform is detected, then XP_MACOSX is defined by default in the makefiles and compiler invocations |
| 17:24:39 | | Quit nobby (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 17:24:41 | t0mas | hm.. |
| 17:24:51 | t0mas | it should be detected by the configure script |
| 17:25:12 | NekoNoNiaow | ... let me try it again from scratch |
| 17:25:16 | t0mas | so autoconf should add a check to the configure script |
| 17:25:48 | NekoNoNiaow | oops sorry i misunderstood you, right, that's what i'd like to tdo |
| 17:26:18 | NekoNoNiaow | where should this be added ? |
| 17:26:28 | t0mas | and you use the configure script from gemoss now? |
| 17:26:35 | t0mas | or have you run autoconf yourself? |
| 17:26:37 | NekoNoNiaow | yes |
| 17:26:50 | t0mas | hm... maybe you can try to install the newest autoconf |
| 17:26:51 | t0mas | and run that |
| 17:27:03 | | Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) |
| 17:27:06 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm following the indications on that page : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPortDevelopment |
| 17:27:09 | t0mas | if that XP_MACOSX is a default define... it should be there |
| 17:27:44 | NekoNoNiaow | ok I see, I was afraid of that, Apple's binutils are way too old |
| 17:28:40 | t0mas | do you have the configure.in file? |
| 17:29:04 | NekoNoNiaow | ok, so my next task is now "find the less painful way to install the latest binutils on mac os x without screwing anything" :) |
| 17:29:13 | NekoNoNiaow | let me check |
| 17:29:22 | t0mas | autoconf/automake aren't in binutils afaik |
| 17:29:48 | NekoNoNiaow | truly enough :) |
| 17:31:31 | NekoNoNiaow | no, configure.ac only |
| 17:32:22 | t0mas | hm... |
| 17:32:29 | t0mas | then you can't use autoconf yourself |
| 17:33:06 | NekoNoNiaow | ok, so i need the latest one, well, I needed an excuse for installing fink anyway :) |
| 17:33:25 | NekoNoNiaow | i'll try that , thanks ! |
| 17:33:58 | t0mas | you can add "-D XP_MACOSX" to the gcc commandline |
| 17:34:06 | t0mas | (as a workaround) |
| 17:36:22 | | Join webguest15 [0] (n=519e8851@labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:36:43 | NekoNoNiaow | yup, good idea |
| 17:37:05 | NekoNoNiaow | where should I add this so i wont have to modify all makefiles ? |
| 17:37:58 | t0mas | erm... |
| 17:38:06 | NekoNoNiaow | i do agree :) |
| 17:38:17 | t0mas | I think there is a global var for gcc options? |
| 17:38:47 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm checking the upper makefile |
| 17:39:52 | NekoNoNiaow | ok there's one, great |
| 17:39:54 | t0mas | there is a var: CXXFLAGS |
| 17:40:00 | NekoNoNiaow | got it |
| 17:40:40 | NekoNoNiaow | i can't believe i'm using vi under mac os x... |
| 17:40:48 | crwl | hehe |
| 17:41:01 | crwl | is there actually vi somewhere too, or just vim? |
| 17:42:07 | NekoNoNiaow | VIM - Vi IMproved 6.2 (2003 Jun 1, compiled Mar 21 2005 02:12:42) |
| 17:42:11 | NekoNoNiaow | to be precise |
| 17:43:54 | NekoNoNiaow | argh, it's using g++, so it's CPPFLAGS instead |
| 17:44:49 | NekoNoNiaow | erm no, thats not the problem |
| 17:45:11 | NekoNoNiaow | gcc3 invokes g++ but it doesnt pass it the flags... |
| 17:45:58 | NekoNoNiaow | which is normal since I should use cxxflags as you said |
| 17:46:05 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm just completely dumb, it's official |
| 17:46:13 | NekoNoNiaow | please shoot me :) |
| 17:46:14 | t0mas | ghe :) |
| 17:46:23 | * | t0mas is not an american... no gun ;-) |
| 17:47:03 | NekoNoNiaow | good thing ;) |
| 17:48:14 | t0mas | jup |
| 17:48:16 | NekoNoNiaow | well, same problem, still no flags passed |
| 17:48:22 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm gonna put it everywhere |
| 17:49:09 | t0mas | k |
| 17:49:09 | | Quit webguest15 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 17:49:53 | NekoNoNiaow | hum, no i got it |
| 17:58:36 | NekoNoNiaow | editing the config.status does it |
| 18:00 |
| 18:01:00 | NekoNoNiaow | ok, that part finally compiles, thank again |
| 18:01:51 | | Quit TCK- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 18:02:08 | t0mas | no problem :) |
| 18:05:56 | NekoNoNiaow | i owe you a beer :) |
| 18:20:25 | | Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-86-208-132.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 18:24:48 | | Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 18:31:08 | | Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-86-103-116.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 18:32:33 | | Quit bagawk ("Leaving") |
| 18:46:27 | | Join nobby [0] (n=nobby@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:48:58 | | Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-155-174.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:51:54 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:00 |
| 19:28:49 | | Quit Lear (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 19:37:21 | | Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h244n6c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 19:47:00 | | Quit nobby (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:49:54 | * | t0mas is formatting his iriver :) |
| 19:50:07 | t0mas | hope it starts working again after this |
| 19:55:25 | NekoNoNiaow | :) |
| 19:55:29 | | Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC") |
| 19:55:51 | | Join t0mas [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 19:55:59 | t0mas | *oops* |
| 19:55:59 | NekoNoNiaow | still no one with gmini binutil experience ? |
| 19:58:26 | LinusN | few people have |
| 19:58:48 | LinusN | there were only two people working on the gmini port |
| 20:00 |
| 20:02:10 | | Join [-AIR-] [0] (n=air@chubbybeans.z-two.com) |
| 20:02:39 | [-AIR-] | hey. woah haven't bin here in a while.fm support like it. just upgrading to bellding edge. |
| 20:02:54 | [-AIR-] | object not found atm...exciting :D |
| 20:03:45 | t0mas | hm |
| 20:03:51 | t0mas | LinusN? |
| 20:03:57 | t0mas | build-h100/librockbox.a(tuner_philips.o)(.text 0x8e): In function `philips_set': |
| 20:04:05 | t0mas | firmware/tuner_philips.c:62: undefined reference to `logf' |
| 20:04:58 | t0mas | erm... |
| 20:05:08 | t0mas | and the simulator doesn't like radio-ing either :) |
| 20:05:09 | t0mas | http://www.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=2005-08-13%2017%3A42%3A36&type=iriver%20H100%20-%20Simulator#prob1 |
| 20:08:20 | [-AIR-] | oh. is there now recent build for the iriver h120 ? |
| 20:08:26 | [-AIR-] | oh. is there no recent build for the iriver h120 ? |
| 20:08:36 | t0mas | o |
| 20:08:44 | t0mas | it didn't build... because there is an error in it |
| 20:08:50 | [-AIR-] | o. |
| 20:08:55 | [-AIR-] | can you fix it ?? |
| 20:08:59 | t0mas | but I can fix that... after I've downloaded an editor |
| 20:09:12 | * | t0mas is in windows :( |
| 20:10:17 | [-AIR-] | kk |
| 20:10:29 | | Join webguest07 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) |
| 20:10:35 | webguest07 | Radio! \o/ |
| 20:11:07 | * | t0mas is installing dev-cpp |
| 20:11:30 | Lear | Hm... In what way is the radio support "lame"? |
| 20:11:31 | webguest07 | Wasn't expecting that. What with the upcoming freeze. Imagined you'd rather work on Archos stuff |
| 20:11:43 | t0mas | Lear: it isn't working atm |
| 20:11:43 | [-AIR-] | iriver RULEZ |
| 20:11:51 | [-AIR-] | edit: rockbox RULEZ |
| 20:12:00 | Lear | well, it doesn't build, but you mean other than that? |
| 20:12:09 | webguest07 | Works For Me[tm] |
| 20:12:22 | t0mas | Lear: I don't know |
| 20:12:34 | t0mas | webguest07: hm? works?? |
| 20:13:16 | webguest07 | Build and loads. Listening to radio right now. Have you updated like, within the last 20 minutes?' |
| 20:13:40 | Lear | Less than 20 minutes, I'd guess... |
| 20:13:40 | webguest07 | Wait, you said something about logf.. I'm running with logf enabled |
| 20:14:08 | t0mas | jup |
| 20:14:09 | webguest07 | Heh, "oops" commit |
| 20:14:12 | Lear | There was a checkin at :09, that might've fixed it... |
| 20:14:12 | t0mas | it's fixed now :) |
| 20:14:19 | t0mas | yes it has |
| 20:14:42 | LinusN | there always have to be an "oops" commit |
| 20:14:58 | t0mas | yes, you said that earlier :) |
| 20:15:01 | webguest07 | I'm half beginning to think you do it on purpose |
| 20:15:17 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 20:15:18 | LinusN | the lameness comes from that the radio screen doesn't yet handle the preset menus |
| 20:15:53 | webguest07 | Ah, I was about to ask how you do presets. |
| 20:15:53 | LinusN | needs a lot of rework to handle the different keymaps |
| 20:16:07 | NekoNoNiaow | linus : oops sorry, i was not reading |
| 20:17:34 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm having trouble compiling the cvs binutils under mac os x, gettext problem, hopefully it will be solved soon, but i guess more awaits me :) |
| 20:17:57 | LinusN | NekoNoNiaow: i don't envy you |
| 20:19:11 | webguest07 | "All the power of unix!" indeed |
| 20:19:30 | | Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC") |
| 20:19:39 | NekoNoNiaow | all the power of outdated binaries |
| 20:20:02 | LinusN | yeah, you need to have the latest jungle animal |
| 20:20:42 | | Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 20:20:45 | webguest07 | They're worse than MS with regards to semi-forced upgrades it seems |
| 20:21:05 | webguest07 | Offtopic semi-trolling. Sorry. |
| 20:21:05 | LinusN | certainly feels like it yes |
| 20:21:13 | LinusN | :-) |
| 20:21:38 | | Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
| 20:21:48 | LinusN | webguest07: how do you feel about the handling of weak stations, btw |
| 20:22:13 | LinusN | rockbox activates the soft-mute function in the fm chip |
| 20:22:38 | NekoNoNiaow | at least, mac os x dev tools are free, both monetary and licensing |
| 20:22:41 | LinusN | which lowers the volume when there is bad reception |
| 20:22:58 | webguest07 | Well.. I'm getting pretty bad reception overall (same with iriver firmware though), so I'm not sure I'm noticing |
| 20:23:23 | webguest07 | oh wait, here was a local station.. sounding clear.. now to find a weak station |
| 20:23:26 | LinusN | iriver handles it differently, so you hear the loud static |
| 20:23:44 | NekoNoNiaow | sorry if this is obvious to you, but i'd like to wipe all configure's caches in a source tree, how should i do this ? |
| 20:24:08 | LinusN | you shouldn't build in the source tree |
| 20:24:18 | NekoNoNiaow | the build tree of course :) |
| 20:24:20 | | Join t0mas [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 20:24:24 | t0mas | #@$&*(@#$ |
| 20:24:29 | t0mas | I hate web clients |
| 20:24:38 | LinusN | easiest is rm -rf *;configure |
| 20:24:38 | webguest07 | Hm.. would be interesting to make a recording of the two firmwares on the same frequency |
| 20:24:40 | t0mas | but I can't use normal IRC here :( |
| 20:25:00 | NekoNoNiaow | linus: that one's looks nice, thanks |
| 20:25:04 | webguest07 | I really haven't been using the iriver radio (because of less than stellar reception), so I don't really know the idfference |
| 20:25:08 | NekoNoNiaow | one |
| 20:25:20 | LinusN | webguest07: you will notice when you hear it |
| 20:25:36 | webguest07 | I'll try it. |
| 20:25:40 | * | webguest07 boots iriver firmware |
| 20:26:06 | webguest07 | Now let me just wait a literal minute while it boots |
| 20:26:23 | webguest07 | Still very confused what they're doing in this time |
| 20:26:40 | NekoNoNiaow | this question i ask myself at every computer boot :) |
| 20:27:00 | Moos | bad remenbers of the iriver fw :) |
| 20:28:26 | webguest07 | LinusN: I'm not convinced this sounds worse than rockbox. Maybe a (temporary perhaps) option to turn off the feature to better test? |
| 20:30:04 | webguest07 | Also, idea. Anything stopping running the cpu at 11mhz while on the fm screen? |
| 20:30:30 | NekoNoNiaow | I don't get it, configure finds msgfmt, but the shell doesnt |
| 20:30:49 | NekoNoNiaow | checking for msgfmt... msgfmt |
| 20:31:04 | webguest07 | Well, maybe it's looking in places not in your path |
| 20:31:17 | NekoNoNiaow | that's strange for a configure |
| 20:31:20 | t0mas | <webguest07> Also, idea. Anything stopping running the cpu at 11mhz while on the fm screen? <−− no... the iriver firmware does that... |
| 20:31:27 | t0mas | but maybe the UI gets to slow if we do it? |
| 20:31:57 | webguest07 | I don't remember it posing much of a problem in the first days of Rockbox |
| 20:32:03 | webguest07 | sure, scrolling longs lists was slow |
| 20:32:08 | LinusN | webguest07: the soft mute is used in the Archo Ondio version of Rockbox, and iriver shared the code. I'll add an option for that later on |
| 20:32:11 | webguest07 | but there's not much going on in the fm screen |
| 20:32:33 | NekoNoNiaow | webguest07: probably |
| 20:32:46 | t0mas | :D :D |
| 20:32:51 | t0mas | my iriver firmware works again |
| 20:32:59 | t0mas | time to update my bootloader |
| 20:33:02 | LinusN | webguest07: that's something we should consider |
| 20:33:29 | LinusN | i'll be away for a while, cu later |
| 20:33:30 | webguest07 | I could run fm for weeks with this 2200mah battery then.. |
| 20:33:36 | t0mas | k |
| 20:33:37 | t0mas | cu |
| 20:51:55 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 20:53:56 | | Quit hanklords (Remote closed the connection) |
| 20:54:51 | | Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") |
| 21:00 |
| 21:04:51 | webguest07 | Hrm, running at 11MHz doesn't seem to be a problem. |
| 21:05:15 | webguest07 | (on FM screen) |
| 21:05:39 | webguest07 | If I actually did put it at 11mhz |
| 21:08:19 | webguest07 | problem is I can't tell the difference |
| 21:08:33 | webguest07 | oh, it was |
| 21:08:40 | | Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@hmln-d9b8e182.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:10:09 | | Join [1]Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
| 21:10:10 | | Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 21:10:13 | | Nick [1]Moos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
| 21:21:33 | | Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@130.85.233.61) |
| 21:21:33 | | Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 21:23:43 | | Join zezayer [0] (n=jake@87.81.166.52) |
| 21:29:08 | t0mas | hm |
| 21:29:12 | t0mas | I need some help... |
| 21:29:35 | t0mas | is there some way to make the peakmeter only react on bass? |
| 21:29:46 | t0mas | say tones < 120 hz |
| 21:29:55 | | Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 21:30:13 | t0mas | (I have my backlight dimming connected to peakmeter output now :D) |
| 21:30:50 | webguest07 | haha |
| 21:31:38 | zezayer | wow t0mas is there a patch available? |
| 21:32:24 | zezayer | where has the recording option gone in the latest bleeding edge its no longer in the debug menu? |
| 21:33:01 | t0mas | no idea |
| 21:33:05 | t0mas | and there is not yet ap atch |
| 21:33:08 | t0mas | *patch |
| 21:33:19 | t0mas | but it's working on high tones too |
| 21:33:23 | t0mas | so it's not looking to good |
| 21:33:31 | t0mas | I want it on bass tones only :) |
| 21:34:11 | zezayer | talk 2 they guys that made the original peak meter? |
| 21:34:15 | webguest07 | The peakmeter seems only slightly music-related right now anyway |
| 21:35:04 | t0mas | zezayer: no, peakmeter is working from MAS samples... |
| 21:35:12 | t0mas | I want to filter that first |
| 21:35:17 | t0mas | lowpass 120 hz |
| 21:35:21 | t0mas | or something |
| 21:35:28 | webguest07 | PCM Recording is still in my debug menu |
| 21:35:51 | crwl | um, i didn't first get backlight at all with rockbox |
| 21:36:05 | crwl | only after waiting for the backlight fadeout, it came |
| 21:36:43 | | Join hshah [0] (n=acd657f0@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:36:53 | t0mas | hm... |
| 21:36:54 | hshah | hello |
| 21:37:06 | t0mas | there are some plugins doing things like what I want |
| 21:37:11 | hshah | liking the new radio build... but can't test it |
| 21:37:28 | hshah | can i get the latest bleeding edge as source code...? |
| 21:38:09 | webguest07 | think so |
| 21:38:21 | webguest07 | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-source/rockbox-bleeding.tar.gz |
| 21:39:16 | t0mas | why can't you test it? |
| 21:39:51 | | Quit hshah (Client Quit) |
| 21:39:51 | | Join hshah [0] (n=acd657f0@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:40:04 | hshah | where did u get that link from? |
| 21:40:14 | hshah | what page is it on...? |
| 21:40:27 | webguest07 | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml bottom |
| 21:41:34 | hshah | OMG - IM STUPID!!! |
| 21:42:01 | hshah | I downloaded the H120 build... but didn't see the source link right next to it... |
| 21:42:59 | hshah | *hits self around head* |
| 21:47:16 | webguest07 | That's what #rockbox is for |
| 21:49:38 | | Quit hshah ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 21:50:24 | webguest07 | Hrm, gminisp/120 doesn't define CPUFREQ_NORMAL/DEFAULT/MAX .. won't this end up being a problem at some point? |
| 21:50:32 | webguest07 | (nevermind that gmini is pretty much broken) |
| 21:50:53 | webguest07 | Guess this is why it's not in the daily build llist |
| 21:52:14 | webguest07 | Probably the smallest problem for gmini. |
| 22:00 |
| 22:03:34 | webguest07 | LinusN: Running FM screen at 11MHz seems completely harmless. (placed a call to set_cpu_frequency(CPUFREQ_NORMAL); and DEFAULT, respectively at the top and bottom of radio_screen() |
| 22:05:49 | t0mas | Bagder/LinusN? Do you know something about signal processing? |
| 22:05:58 | t0mas | or so I have to wait for preglow to return? :) |
| 22:06:00 | webguest07 | Might not be the correct places, but at least for testing it seems to work. |
| 22:06:04 | Bagder | not much |
| 22:06:10 | t0mas | :( |
| 22:06:15 | webguest07 | t0mas: you could try the mailing list |
| 22:06:17 | * | t0mas needs a low-pass filter |
| 22:06:34 | t0mas | and I can't google it up... |
| 22:06:49 | webguest07 | I'm assuming the wavpack guy knows just a tiny bit |
| 22:06:55 | webguest07 | and possibly others |
| 22:08:29 | webguest07 | probably, rather |
| 22:09:04 | | Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 22:09:15 | | Join webguest15 [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:09:19 | | Nick webguest15 is now known as T (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:09:19 | webguest07 | A curse on cgi:irc |
| 22:09:22 | | Nick T is now known as t0mas (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:09:26 | t0mas | indeed :) |
| 22:09:55 | zezayer | were u talking 2 ur self there??! |
| 22:10:16 | t0mas | huh? |
| 22:10:16 | zezayer | ** mixed up webguest07 and webguest15 |
| 22:10:20 | t0mas | ghehe, ok |
| 22:10:24 | zezayer | my wrong |
| 22:10:29 | webguest07 | o.O my iriver just turned off |
| 22:10:33 | webguest07 | this can't be right |
| 22:10:40 | t0mas | batteries? |
| 22:10:42 | zezayer | press the play button :P |
| 22:10:43 | webguest07 | don't think so |
| 22:10:59 | webguest07 | 48% full |
| 22:11:09 | webguest07 | Was listening to radio. |
| 22:11:15 | webguest07 | at 11mhz. |
| 22:11:20 | Moos | auto pwer of otion maybe |
| 22:11:26 | webguest07 | good point.. |
| 22:11:37 | Moos | oops |
| 22:11:39 | webguest07 | Sounds like a bug to me |
| 22:11:46 | t0mas | jup |
| 22:11:57 | t0mas | it thinks it's idle when you're listening to radio |
| 22:12:08 | t0mas | so I think you have the idle timeout option on? |
| 22:12:14 | webguest07 | Yes |
| 22:12:19 | webguest07 | absolutely |
| 22:12:31 | webguest07 | No mystery then. |
| 22:13:17 | webguest07 | could've sworn I had it running for longer than 5minutes |
| 22:13:28 | t0mas | maybe you didn't press a button for 5 minutes? |
| 22:13:38 | webguest07 | Must not have |
| 22:13:47 | Bagder | t0mas: can you explain your snake commit? |
| 22:14:03 | Bagder | why always write 4 bytes? |
| 22:14:17 | t0mas | Bagder: No... I can't... |
| 22:14:22 | Bagder | seems... wrong |
| 22:14:23 | t0mas | it's XavierGr's patch |
| 22:14:31 | Bagder | but you committed it |
| 22:14:36 | t0mas | he tested it... I just checked if it compiled |
| 22:14:46 | Bagder | I don't like it |
| 22:14:54 | Bagder | I think its wrong |
| 22:15:01 | t0mas | hm... |
| 22:15:09 | * | t0mas checks what he had to say about it |
| 22:15:11 | LinusN | i understand the applecount fix, but definitely not the 4 |
| 22:15:32 | Bagder | the count reset seems logical |
| 22:15:35 | zezayer | there was a prob with hiscore limited to 99 |
| 22:15:45 | t0mas | hm... |
| 22:15:57 | t0mas | what's wrong with always writing 4 bytes? |
| 22:16:12 | zezayer | the patch fixed the applescore and hiscore > 99 |
| 22:16:14 | t0mas | as long as he reads out 4 bytes too, there is no problem? |
| 22:16:29 | Bagder | well, first it doesn't support 9999 |
| 22:16:32 | webguest07 | Seems like a hack |
| 22:16:51 | zezayer | max score is 4000 |
| 22:17:07 | Bagder | the read code is rather stupid as well |
| 22:17:25 | t0mas | hm |
| 22:17:26 | t0mas | line 477 |
| 22:17:27 | t0mas | rb->snprintf(phscore,sizeof(phscore),"%d",init); |
| 22:17:36 | webguest07 | oops |
| 22:17:40 | Bagder | yes, that'll make two bytes |
| 22:17:46 | Bagder | but if you read 4 |
| 22:17:51 | Bagder | there's no trailing zero |
| 22:17:59 | Bagder | then atoi() on it is... |
| 22:18:02 | Bagder | funny |
| 22:18:08 | t0mas | ghe |
| 22:18:14 | t0mas | that's just waiting for a crash |
| 22:18:17 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:18:17 | webguest07 | Hrm, my iriver should be turning off right about now |
| 22:18:27 | Bagder | %04d would solve it |
| 22:18:34 | * | NekoNoNiaow got gettext compiles and hopes the binutils will build |
| 22:18:38 | Bagder | hm, no |
| 22:18:51 | NekoNoNiaow | ./me speaks strange english |
| 22:18:55 | Bagder | I think the save should be fixed to save the number with a newline afterwards |
| 22:18:59 | NekoNoNiaow | and bad irc too :( |
| 22:19:01 | Bagder | using strlen() |
| 22:19:06 | t0mas | Bagder: or a \0 |
| 22:19:17 | LinusN | and use readline() to read it back |
| 22:19:20 | Bagder | sure, but a newline is more readable if you load it with a text editor |
| 22:19:24 | webguest07 | Well, using a newline would enable... yes, readline |
| 22:19:50 | NekoNoNiaow | please, let us all pray together that the binutils will build :) |
| 22:19:51 | t0mas | ok, I'll edit it... |
| 22:19:57 | t0mas | and ask XavierGr next time I see him |
| 22:20:19 | Slasher | hi |
| 22:20:28 | t0mas | hm... |
| 22:20:52 | t0mas | Bagder: Why not just revert his change, and change the sizeof(phscore) on line 477 |
| 22:20:55 | t0mas | as that is the bug... |
| 22:21:05 | t0mas | sizeof() doesn't work on an array... |
| 22:21:06 | Moos | Hello Slasheri |
| 22:21:17 | webguest07 | How often is the idle-poweroff thing checked? |
| 22:21:18 | Slasher | the radio seems to work fine. Btw, could the recording from radio be possible with external loopback cable from line out to line in if that's a hardware limitation? |
| 22:21:18 | Bagder | t0mas: yes it does |
| 22:21:21 | Slasher | Moos :) |
| 22:21:26 | Bagder | that is not the error |
| 22:21:29 | Bagder | lemme fix it |
| 22:21:44 | webguest07 | Slasher: doesn't seem to be, someone on misticriver reported recording radio |
| 22:21:56 | Slasher | webguest07: ah, ok. Do you have any url? |
| 22:21:57 | LinusN | Slasher: recording works |
| 22:22:00 | webguest07 | picking the line-in input o.O |
| 22:22:18 | LinusN | tune in on the station, leave the fm screen with the Play button |
| 22:22:26 | webguest07 | I suppose that just reflects how the hardware works |
| 22:22:27 | Slasher | LinusN: recording from radio? that sounds nice :) |
| 22:22:27 | LinusN | enter the recording screen and choose Line In |
| 22:22:45 | Slasher | ah, interesting |
| 22:22:46 | Slasher | i will try |
| 22:23:20 | t0mas | :D |
| 22:23:22 | * | webguest07 tries it |
| 22:23:54 | Slasher | hehe, i can even play music while radio is on :D |
| 22:24:03 | webguest07 | well, taht certainly left the hardware in an odd state |
| 22:24:48 | webguest07 | (after exiting the record screen, the radio stopped, and I couldn't hear anything when I played the file) |
| 22:24:53 | webguest07 | Works fine after a reboot though |
| 22:25:08 | LinusN | webguest07: go back to the radio screen and leave it with Stop |
| 22:25:15 | Slasher | did you use a loopback cable? |
| 22:25:19 | webguest07 | Ah. |
| 22:25:21 | webguest07 | Slasher: nope |
| 22:25:24 | LinusN | no, why? |
| 22:25:27 | Slasher | ok, i will try with it |
| 22:25:59 | webguest07 | Got a good split-second of static at the beginning of the file. guessing this is a bug with the pcm recording code? |
| 22:26:07 | LinusN | the fm radio output is routed to the ADC input via an analog multiplexer |
| 22:26:20 | LinusN | which chooses between Line In and FM audio |
| 22:26:26 | LinusN | webguest07: yes |
| 22:26:27 | webguest07 | Radio recording sounds just dandy though |
| 22:26:58 | NekoNoNiaow | shit, build failed |
| 22:27:45 | webguest07 | No point in reporting oddities with the pcm recording I suppose |
| 22:27:47 | NekoNoNiaow | and because of source problems |
| 22:27:52 | Slasher | hmm, the recording seems to work fine |
| 22:28:09 | webguest07 | it certainly does |
| 22:28:24 | webguest07 | no interference from harddisk or other hardware |
| 22:28:29 | NekoNoNiaow | did anyone try to compile the binutils for the gmini using cvs lately ? |
| 22:28:37 | Slasher | that's nice.. so we will have fm recording capability with an external loopback cable in future :) |
| 22:28:45 | webguest07 | Why iriver isn't including this feature is confusing me |
| 22:28:49 | LinusN | NekoNoNiaow: nobody has been working on the gmini for ages |
| 22:29:12 | LinusN | Slasher: why the cable? |
| 22:29:16 | LinusN | i don't get it |
| 22:29:20 | NekoNoNiaow | ages ? like millenaries ? years ? days ? :) |
| 22:29:26 | Slasher | oh, it works even without it? cool |
| 22:29:27 | webguest07 | months |
| 22:29:29 | Slasher | trying that.. |
| 22:29:45 | t0mas | arg... |
| 22:29:51 | t0mas | I have it when I don't get things |
| 22:29:59 | t0mas | but this signal processing stuff is difficult |
| 22:30:06 | NekoNoNiaow | i'm googling through rockbox/irc and i see jyp posts in february (i'vbt been further yet) |
| 22:30:26 | LinusN | ages, as in months |
| 22:30:46 | Bagder | jyp is the only one who worked on the gmini port |
| 22:30:50 | Bagder | and he vanished |
| 22:30:51 | t0mas | and the most irritating part is that preglow knows how to do it... and he isn't around |
| 22:31:23 | | Join the_winch [0] (n=winch@195.60.16.190) |
| 22:31:41 | NekoNoNiaow | i see |
| 22:33:05 | NekoNoNiaow | before that, did he submit regularly to cvs ? |
| 22:33:12 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:33:13 | webguest07 | LinusN: going to fm screen and back didn't work |
| 22:33:24 | LinusN | webguest07: yes, i realized that |
| 22:33:32 | NekoNoNiaow | ok, so everything is not lost |
| 22:33:35 | webguest07 | Alright. I'll shut up about it |
| 22:33:49 | Bagder | NekoNoNiaow: nothing is really lost |
| 22:33:53 | Bagder | NekoNoNiaow: just stalled |
| 22:33:55 | webguest07 | it's not like a reboot is a big deal with rockbox |
| 22:34:01 | LinusN | :-) |
| 22:34:16 | Slasher | yes, the recording works really well. Only minor hardware initialization issues |
| 22:34:29 | LinusN | my first attempt hung |
| 22:34:37 | NekoNoNiaow | the strange part being that the binutils don't compile, I guess it's due to the fact i'm on os x |
| 22:34:42 | LinusN | after 3 seconds |
| 22:34:54 | Slasher | hmm, i recorded something like 30s |
| 22:34:56 | Bagder | NekoNoNiaow: binutils for what? |
| 22:35:04 | webguest07 | I just recorded 4:37 |
| 22:35:05 | NekoNoNiaow | for the cross compiler |
| 22:35:05 | Bagder | what target |
| 22:35:11 | NekoNoNiaow | badger : gmini |
| 22:35:11 | Bagder | NekoNoNiaow: calmrisc? |
| 22:35:12 | webguest07 | Listening to it now. |
| 22:35:18 | NekoNoNiaow | yes gmini, calmrisc |
| 22:35:24 | Bagder | NekoNoNiaow: from their cvs? |
| 22:35:28 | NekoNoNiaow | yes |
| 22:35:49 | NekoNoNiaow | i'll be using samsung's sources tomorrow if i can't get the cvs ones to work |
| 22:35:56 | NekoNoNiaow | i'll be trying at least |
| 22:36:00 | Bagder | it built for me |
| 22:36:07 | webguest07 | I should stop using these headphones. It makes me sad going back to the in-ear pieces :-\ |
| 22:36:10 | NekoNoNiaow | badger : under os x ? |
| 22:36:12 | Bagder | but I haven't uped from cvs in a while |
| 22:36:13 | LinusN | i get static everytime it saves to disk |
| 22:36:17 | Bagder | NekoNoNiaow: no |
| 22:36:31 | webguest07 | LinusN: Noticeable? |
| 22:36:35 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:36:43 | webguest07 | How long? |
| 22:36:48 | NekoNoNiaow | i might try under linux too, i'll try tomorrow, but my desktop setup won't be practical for useful work |
| 22:37:04 | LinusN | webguest07: just while the red led is lit |
| 22:37:13 | LinusN | when rockbox accesses the disk |
| 22:37:16 | webguest07 | Strange. Not seeing such a thing here. |
| 22:37:16 | Bagder | NekoNoNiaow: it would at least rule out/confirm a platform related problem |
| 22:37:25 | NekoNoNiaow | yes |
| 22:37:32 | webguest07 | Well, hearing. |
| 22:37:55 | NekoNoNiaow | my problem is sharing files between mac os x and linux, smb seems the easiest but it's a pain in the ass to get working under linux |
| 22:37:59 | NekoNoNiaow | (at least for me) |
| 22:38:03 | * | t0mas quits trying to filter |
| 22:38:09 | t0mas | when is preglow back? |
| 22:38:21 | webguest07 | Didn't he say "about a week" a week ago? |
| 22:38:22 | LinusN | webguest07: a small "pffft" everytime it saves |
| 22:38:40 | Bagder | preglow (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) signed off 2 days and 7 hours ago ("ex") |
| 22:38:54 | t0mas | hm... |
| 22:38:55 | Moos | t0mas, maybe Lear'll can help you when he'll back |
| 22:39:07 | t0mas | Lear does something in the dsp field too? |
| 22:39:18 | Moos | i believe |
| 22:39:18 | webguest07 | LinusN: I really can't hear any such thing. |
| 22:39:33 | * | t0mas curses at his school... 1 year left... then I'll just know how to do it myself |
| 22:39:35 | Moos | t0mas: try the mailing list |
| 22:40:32 | LinusN | webguest07: maybe that's why iriver didn't do it, because some devices get bad reception during hard drive access |
| 22:40:34 | | Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC") |
| 22:40:42 | | Join webguest15 [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:40:45 | LinusN | archos fm recorder has the same problem |
| 22:40:50 | webguest15 | @#%$@#$@#$ cgi client |
| 22:40:54 | | Nick webguest15 is now known as t0mas (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:41:28 | | Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp28-adsl-242.ath.forthnet.gr) |
| 22:41:33 | webguest07 | Well, this is a really strong station. |
| 22:41:49 | LinusN | try a weaker one |
| 22:42:48 | webguest07 | Man, it's really bad at guessing where stations are located |
| 22:43:30 | webguest07 | Dammit, I can only find crisp channels, or really really bad ones |
| 22:43:48 | webguest07 | Ah! here's one |
| 22:45:08 | webguest07 | can you hear it while recording, or only on the recording? |
| 22:45:24 | Moos | Hey XavierGr |
| 22:45:42 | LinusN | webguest07: while recording |
| 22:46:11 | | Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@norge.freeshell.ORG) |
| 22:46:11 | webguest07 | Don't think I can replicate it then |
| 22:46:21 | LinusN | lucky you |
| 22:46:25 | webguest07 | Heh |
| 22:46:33 | webguest07 | sounds strange though |
| 22:46:45 | webguest07 | Unless this is just a case of my ears being broken |
| 22:47:15 | webguest07 | But I'm assuming it'd be easily noticable |
| 22:47:31 | LinusN | well, it's not *that* bad |
| 22:48:09 | LinusN | just that the reception gets a tad noisier when the disk is accessed |
| 22:49:29 | webguest07 | Curious.. I really can't hear it.. do you have a small clip of it? |
| 22:50:05 | webguest07 | oops, now I have 6 minutes of some classical music |
| 22:51:31 | XavierGr | Hi all! Nice news about the radio and FM recording! |
| 22:51:56 | t0mas | hi XavierGr |
| 22:51:58 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:52:09 | t0mas | have you read the logs about your snake patch? |
| 22:52:12 | XavierGr | oh thanks t0mas for the commit |
| 22:52:26 | t0mas | yeah, Bagder has already changed it again ;) |
| 22:52:32 | XavierGr | why? |
| 22:52:40 | Bagder | me no like it |
| 22:52:44 | Bagder | check the diff |
| 22:52:47 | t0mas | lol |
| 22:52:49 | XavierGr | okay |
| 22:52:52 | t0mas | short comment "Me no like it" |
| 22:53:00 | | Join Garrett [0] (i=1000@dial-203-201-11-01.ind.iquest.net) |
| 22:53:16 | Bagder | XavierGr: actually, the biggest problem wasn't added by you it was there already |
| 22:53:23 | Bagder | but I didn't like the fixed 4 bytes write |
| 22:53:33 | Garrett | Hello all. |
| 22:53:49 | t0mas | hi |
| 22:53:50 | NekoNoNiaow | man, the #gmemu channel sure is active : idle times all equal to connection time :) |
| 22:54:11 | Garrett | I was just wondering where the hell one actually gets an Archos Jukebox 5000 or IRiver player these days. |
| 22:54:21 | | Join hshah [0] (n=acd657f0@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:54:23 | LinusN | NekoNoNiaow: you're on your own there |
| 22:54:30 | webguest07 | Garrett: ebay |
| 22:54:32 | LinusN | ebay |
| 22:54:41 | t0mas | Bagder? you're the rockbox mailinglist manager? |
| 22:54:42 | hshah | hello, can anyone give me the bmp for the current USB logo |
| 22:54:46 | Garrett | Because the only thing I see now is the Gmini Sx202. |
| 22:54:47 | NekoNoNiaow | linus : i wonder why they still connect to the irc ? |
| 22:54:55 | Bagder | t0mas: me. linus and zagor are |
| 22:55:02 | t0mas | hshah: I have a better version :) |
| 22:55:04 | Garrett | I was just wondering if that would work. |
| 22:55:06 | LinusN | hshah: i'm not sure we have it |
| 22:55:07 | hshah | hey LinusN - yes i was being a retard about the latest bleeding edge source |
| 22:55:09 | t0mas | Bagder: it bounced my bost |
| 22:55:18 | LinusN | hshah: :-) |
| 22:55:20 | hshah | t0mas... could u email it to me please? |
| 22:55:23 | t0mas | wai |
| 22:55:24 | t0mas | t |
| 22:55:26 | LinusN | hshah: hang on, i'll dig it up for you |
| 22:55:28 | t0mas | it's on my webserver |
| 22:55:29 | Bagder | t0mas: didn't it say why? |
| 22:55:29 | Strath | :) |
| 22:55:34 | hshah | thank you :) |
| 22:55:40 | t0mas | Bagder: "You are not allowed." |
| 22:55:54 | Bagder | t0mas: and you used the correct email address? |
| 22:56:09 | Bagder | in the From: field I mean |
| 22:56:13 | Garrett | So will RockBox work on the GMini SX202? |
| 22:56:23 | Garrett | That's all I need to know. |
| 22:56:25 | Bagder | Garrett: no |
| 22:56:27 | webguest07 | http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=72 <−− New Iriver h140 at £250 (in uk) |
| 22:56:31 | t0mas | oh shit... |
| 22:56:39 | Strath | we're here NekoNoNiaow |
| 22:56:40 | Garrett | Sweet |
| 22:56:40 | t0mas | my subscription address isn't my sending address... |
| 22:56:46 | t0mas | hshah: http://tomas.salfischberger.nl/dump/usb2.bmp |
| 22:56:52 | t0mas | that's my version |
| 22:57:03 | t0mas | looks better than the original... but it doesn't fit on archos |
| 22:57:18 | webguest07 | Hah, cute |
| 22:57:23 | Bagder | we could use a different one on iriver |
| 22:57:25 | NekoNoNiaow | strath : hi, so i'll be probably bothering you in a few days :) |
| 22:57:33 | XavierGr | well bagder I see you changed the iohiscore function I had written. Well I guess your version is better. |
| 22:57:33 | t0mas | Bagder: then take a look at mine... |
| 22:57:41 | Strath | alrighty :) |
| 22:57:50 | LinusN | hshah: http://linus.haxx.se/050305-rockbox-usb.png |
| 22:57:53 | hshah | t0mas... does it fit on the iRiver H120? |
| 22:57:57 | t0mas | es |
| 22:57:59 | LinusN | antialiased for grayscale |
| 22:58:09 | t0mas | hshah: it's made for the H120 |
| 22:58:21 | Bagder | I think LinusN's version wins over t0mas's ;-) |
| 22:58:30 | t0mas | grrr :P |
| 22:58:41 | hshah | im gonna combine both to make the ultimate version :p |
| 22:58:44 | | Part zezayer |
| 22:58:52 | hshah | but mines going to have my name in it... so useless for anyone else :p |
| 22:58:52 | Bagder | the usb image race! |
| 22:58:53 | webguest07 | It'll fight crime. |
| 22:58:57 | * | Garrett notes that this is a very interesting discussion. |
| 22:59:06 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 22:59:12 | Garrett | Wish I knew enough to contribute. |
| 22:59:20 | LinusN | hshah: please do two versions, one 4-gray and one b&w that fits on the archos |
| 22:59:24 | t0mas | Garrett: start paint... of the gimp |
| 22:59:26 | t0mas | and paint something |
| 22:59:32 | Garrett | No I mean to the project. |
| 22:59:33 | | Join zezayer [0] (n=jake@87.81.166.52) |
| 22:59:37 | Garrett | I can't paint, I'm blind. |
| 22:59:40 | Garrett | :) |
| 22:59:43 | t0mas | Garrett: can you do C? |
| 22:59:48 | Garrett | A little bit. |
| 22:59:49 | hshah | doesn't the image have to be 100 by 32? |
| 22:59:52 | LinusN | can you C? lol |
| 22:59:55 | Garrett | Not nearly enough to be useful. |
| 22:59:59 | Garrett | Nope. |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:00 | Bagder | hahahaha |
| 23:00:03 | Garrett | LOL |
| 23:00:03 | t0mas | lol |
| 23:00:09 | Garrett | I can't see or C. |
| 23:00:10 | hshah | neither can i - lol |
| 23:00:11 | t0mas | hshah: no |
| 23:00:17 | XavierGr | LinusN: You mentioned that the reception on FM gets bad when the disk writes data. I didn't noticed that... |
| 23:00:21 | t0mas | it can be 128x160 |
| 23:00:23 | dpassen1 | how much knowledge of C is needed to contribute |
| 23:00:24 | webguest07 | hshah: no - 160x128 for iriver |
| 23:00:25 | t0mas | erm |
| 23:00:27 | LinusN | XavierGr: it's faint |
| 23:00:27 | t0mas | 160x128 |
| 23:00:39 | Bagder | dpassen1: it depends on what you want to do |
| 23:00:49 | Bagder | writing or fixing plugins doesn't require very much |
| 23:00:55 | Bagder | and you'll learn fast |
| 23:01:05 | hshah | LinusN - do two of what... im confused... this is the first time im even making an image for the iriver - lol |
| 23:01:07 | XavierGr | So do you think that iriver put that out because of it? |
| 23:01:14 | LinusN | hshah: the image should have room for the status bar |
| 23:01:22 | LinusN | XavierGr: possibly |
| 23:01:36 | XavierGr | Hmmm I will make more tests to hear that. |
| 23:01:39 | webguest07 | Sounds strange. It's really unnoticable to me |
| 23:01:41 | | Join Bger_ [0] (n=Bager@84.242.160.68) |
| 23:01:45 | webguest07 | Like, entirely |
| 23:02:01 | Garrett | God, I can't believe I'm actually looking on Amazon for one of these. |
| 23:02:17 | XavierGr | For one of which? |
| 23:02:27 | Garrett | Anything older than a gmini sx202 |
| 23:02:36 | webguest07 | If I were blind, I'd hold out a bit and wait for voice-ui on iriver-h1x0 |
| 23:02:49 | webguest07 | That's easy to say of course - I'm not the one without a DAP |
| 23:04:12 | t0mas | ghe :) |
| 23:05:12 | Garrett | Archose Jukebox 20GB handheld multimedia center |
| 23:05:31 | Garrett | Would it work with that? |
| 23:05:34 | LinusN | nope |
| 23:06:01 | Garrett | Wait, there's a gmini sx220. |
| 23:06:10 | hshah | in paint... when in monochrome mode... why can't i write text? |
| 23:06:22 | webguest07 | It probably wants to use antialiased fonts |
| 23:06:25 | | Quit [-AIR-] ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") |
| 23:06:26 | webguest07 | and gets all sad |
| 23:06:28 | Garrett | Don't look at me LOL. |
| 23:06:29 | LinusN | Garrett: don't hold your breath for rockbox on gmini |
| 23:06:54 | webguest07 | iriver is a waaay safer bet than gmini |
| 23:07:00 | LinusN | oh yes |
| 23:07:12 | Garrett | I probably sound like a total ignoramus LOL. |
| 23:07:29 | webguest07 | With iriver it's a matter of when, gmini is a matter of if |
| 23:07:37 | Bagder | we are MANY deverlopers with irivers and we are NONE with gmini |
| 23:08:04 | NekoNoNiaow | there might be a quarter of one on gmini |
| 23:08:09 | NekoNoNiaow | if i can find time :) |
| 23:08:20 | Bagder | right, NekoNoNiaow is our upcoming hero ;-) |
| 23:08:45 | Bagder | shouldering the great jyp's rep is not easy |
| 23:08:53 | LinusN | just like the oracle said |
| 23:09:19 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 23:09:35 | XavierGr | LinusN: It's almost impossible to hear the distortion. I heard something like it once on a 2minutes recording, but this should be heard every 7 seconds right? |
| 23:09:37 | Garrett | I just wish the archos site wasn't such a piece of shit. |
| 23:09:47 | LinusN | XavierGr: yes |
| 23:10:08 | LinusN | Garrett: you won't find any rockboxable players there |
| 23:10:21 | LinusN | they stopped manufacturing them long ago |
| 23:10:31 | XavierGr | Well I have to wait for my FM transmitter to make some Sine wave tests from another audio device |
| 23:10:42 | Garrett | That's just fucking great. |
| 23:11:29 | webguest07 | Garrett: If you want something that'll work right now, buy a used Archos Recorder on ebay or some other site like that. |
| 23:11:40 | Garrett | Cool thx. |
| 23:11:46 | | Quit zezayer ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") |
| 23:12:06 | webguest07 | Garrett: If you're okay with waiting for a while, but getting a way smaller, more capable player, buy an iriver - either used, or from advancedmp3players.co.uk |
| 23:12:30 | webguest07 | potentially more capable, at least |
| 23:12:51 | Bger_ | it IS already :) |
| 23:12:53 | | Join zezayer [0] (n=jake@87.81.166.52) |
| 23:13:05 | Bagder | not for a blind guy |
| 23:13:11 | Bger_ | at least in supported playback formats |
| 23:13:12 | webguest07 | Bger_: Depends what you're success criteria is |
| 23:13:26 | Bger_ | yeah, but that's a matter of time |
| 23:13:38 | webguest07 | That's why I said potentially |
| 23:13:49 | | Quit Garrett ("Nice talking to you all.") |
| 23:13:56 | Bger_ | preglow plans to start working on speex codec iirc |
| 23:13:56 | NekoNoNiaow | badger : huh, don't say that, when i first started working on the gmini the first time i did not go very far, so better not be too ambitious :) |
| 23:17:37 | webguest07 | Getting a different codec is not the problem with voice-ui as far as I understand it |
| 23:18:20 | | Part zezayer |
| 23:19:40 | | Join zezayer [0] (n=jake@87.81.166.52) |
| 23:20:52 | XavierGr | LinusN: About the jpeg viewer and the scroll adition. I see that physical files come in alphabetical order when opening the contents of a dir. |
| 23:21:14 | XavierGr | So I think that we will not need a sorting function for it. |
| 23:21:19 | webguest07 | XavierGr: That's probably luck |
| 23:21:26 | hshah | WOO HOO - made my own usb image |
| 23:21:27 | LinusN | XavierGr: a coincidence |
| 23:21:44 | XavierGr | hmm then this will be a problem. |
| 23:21:46 | LinusN | you probably copied them to the disk in alphabetical order |
| 23:22:08 | hshah | well its sort of t0mas's and the original RB one with some text... but i can call it my very own coz its got my name... lol |
| 23:22:13 | XavierGr | because then we will have to sort all the jpg entries first. |
| 23:22:30 | XavierGr | and we will need a huge 2 dimension array to hold the entries |
| 23:22:41 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:22:51 | LinusN | why huge? |
| 23:22:51 | webguest07 | What's the second dimention for? |
| 23:22:57 | webguest07 | dimension. |
| 23:23:25 | LinusN | webguest07: a string is an array in c |
| 23:23:32 | webguest07 | Oh right |
| 23:23:35 | XavierGr | well I use an array context[numberof jpg files] [MAX_PATH] for the files |
| 23:24:19 | XavierGr | but in case that te files were sorted we would need only 2 char arrays. Next[MAX_PATH] and Previous[MAX_PATH] |
| 23:24:40 | LinusN | they're not |
| 23:24:49 | LinusN | and there are smarter ways of doing it |
| 23:25:01 | LinusN | like how tree.c does it for instance |
| 23:25:15 | XavierGr | can you describe it? |
| 23:25:26 | XavierGr | because I tried to understand to no avail. |
| 23:25:38 | XavierGr | generally what it does? |
| 23:26:01 | LinusN | have the file names in a large buffer, one after another, separated by only the ending null byte |
| 23:26:15 | LinusN | and a pointer array to point them out |
| 23:26:40 | LinusN | that way you don't waste bytes by having each item allocate MAX_PATH bytes |
| 23:26:47 | XavierGr | yeah I see that. |
| 23:26:49 | LinusN | and only use 30-40 of them |
| 23:27:11 | XavierGr | that way is far more better. |
| 23:27:35 | XavierGr | that buffer what type is it? Char *buf? |
| 23:28:40 | LinusN | char filenamebuffer[16000]; (for example) |
| 23:28:51 | XavierGr | so it is fixed. |
| 23:28:56 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:29:15 | LinusN | so you need to make sure you don't overflow |
| 23:30:23 | webguest07 | 16000 being related to the max files in dir browser limit? |
| 23:30:29 | webguest07 | (not in the plugin, of course) |
| 23:31:08 | XavierGr | the pointer array will then be char *pointer[number of entries]? |
| 23:31:59 | Bger_ | 16000 = maxfiles * max_full_filename probably |
| 23:32:43 | XavierGr | max_full_filename = 260 right? |
| 23:32:55 | XavierGr | and what if it is more thatn 260? |
| 23:33:02 | Bagder | it can't be |
| 23:33:03 | Bger_ | 256 |
| 23:33:03 | | Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s201a.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 23:33:11 | Bger_ | it CAN'T be more |
| 23:33:18 | XavierGr | in windows too? |
| 23:33:19 | Bagder | you can't have more than max |
| 23:33:24 | Bger_ | this value is in FAT specifications |
| 23:33:28 | Bger_ | yep |
| 23:33:29 | XavierGr | got it |
| 23:33:44 | | Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 23:33:45 | LinusN | Bger: 16000 was just an example |
| 23:33:56 | Bger_ | but i'm not sure it's 256 (or 255) |
| 23:34:17 | LinusN | it's 250 |
| 23:34:18 | LinusN | 260 |
| 23:34:39 | Bger_ | hm, ok:) |
| 23:34:43 | LinusN | 256 bytes path plus "X:\" and a null byte |
| 23:35:03 | LinusN | aficr |
| 23:35:07 | Bger_ | ok, in rockbox there's no X:\ |
| 23:35:11 | LinusN | nope |
| 23:35:16 | Bger_ | only / |
| 23:35:20 | webguest07 | What a lovely system fat is |
| 23:35:27 | | Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC") |
| 23:35:27 | LinusN | but we kept the 260 anyway |
| 23:35:29 | | Join webguest15 [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:35:32 | webguest15 | @$#()@#*$ |
| 23:35:34 | webguest15 | again |
| 23:35:36 | | Nick webguest15 is now known as t0mas (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:35:44 | XavierGr | Example: Someone has 1000 files in a folder (remove the dot files for this) and all have maximum filepath. 1000 * 260 = 260000 |
| 23:35:44 | webguest07 | What *are* you doing? |
| 23:36:04 | XavierGr | 260000 characters |
| 23:36:16 | LinusN | XavierGr: yes |
| 23:36:17 | XavierGr | 1 bute each = 260kbytes |
| 23:36:22 | Bger_ | yep, but this is the worse case :) |
| 23:36:47 | XavierGr | and the plugin memery is 768kbytes if I remember correctly? |
| 23:36:53 | Bagder | but very few users have 1000 songs using max path length |
| 23:38:09 | Bagder | most people have file names less than 40 bytes I would say |
| 23:38:28 | Bagder | and 1000 * 40 is 40K |
| 23:39:38 | XavierGr | well Bger in the settings you can increase maximum files to 10.000 so it is not the worst case scenario, but generally you are right |
| 23:40:03 | webguest07 | Them all being 260 bytes is the worst case |
| 23:40:26 | XavierGr | yes |
| 23:41:04 | t0mas | hm... |
| 23:41:12 | XavierGr | 2.6MB is the worst case scenario but that is fictional. |
| 23:41:17 | LinusN | XavierGr: if the buffer gets full, you only show the files you managed to read |
| 23:41:23 | t0mas | maybe just use a pointer array? And point into the pluginbuffer fof dynamic size strings? |
| 23:41:25 | LinusN | simple as that |
| 23:41:34 | t0mas | that would save a lot compared to fixed 260 bytes entries |
| 23:41:41 | Bger_ | hm... |
| 23:41:41 | Bagder | you can fill up the buffer in the plain dir browser |
| 23:41:45 | Bger_ | why |
| 23:41:49 | Bger_ | ~/Rockbox/rockbox/firmware $ grep '#define MAX_PATH' * -r |
| 23:41:49 | Bger_ | export/lcd.h:#define MAX_PATH 260 |
| 23:41:49 | Bger_ | include/file.h:#define MAX_PATH 260 |
| 23:41:50 | Bagder | so I don't see why you shouldn't in the jpeg viewer |
| 23:42:05 | Bagder | it shouldn't be in the lcd file |
| 23:42:09 | XavierGr | yeah now that you told me how the tree.c works I will leave the fixed char array scenario. |
| 23:42:10 | LinusN | t0mas: look what i said about 23:25 |
| 23:42:12 | Bger_ | hm, i got it |
| 23:42:45 | t0mas | LinusN: I can't... client crashed |
| 23:42:51 | Bagder | haha |
| 23:43:08 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20050812.txt |
| 23:43:32 | | Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC") |
| 23:43:33 | | Join webguest15 [0] (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:43:37 | | Nick webguest15 is now known as t0mas (n=503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:43:39 | webguest07 | Anyone else noticed that the logs seem to miss a few seconds around midnight |
| 23:43:43 | t0mas | yes, I found that log already |
| 23:43:45 | t0mas | 23.26.01 # <LinusN> have the file names in a large buffer, one after another, separated by only the ending null byte |
| 23:43:45 | webguest07 | minutes |
| 23:43:54 | Bger_ | ok, shouldn't MAX_PATH be lower than 260 ? |
| 23:44:03 | t0mas | :D |
| 23:44:15 | * | t0mas smiles... found the same solution Linus used... |
| 23:44:20 | Bger_ | like 258 |
| 23:44:36 | Bagder | I think using 260 makes sense |
| 23:44:49 | Bagder | since we when can actually use that for file names |
| 23:44:53 | Bagder | that works in windows |
| 23:45:22 | LinusN | Bagder: if we generate a 260 char file name, i guess windows will choke |
| 23:45:39 | t0mas | 259 a \0 ? |
| 23:45:47 | XavierGr | LinusN: In a FAT32 windows system what about NTFS? |
| 23:45:47 | Bagder | oh right, if the fat code does it too |
| 23:45:48 | t0mas | rm |
| 23:45:58 | t0mas | huh... the plus sign isn't working in the cgi client |
| 23:46:03 | LinusN | XavierGr: i don't know about ntfs |
| 23:46:15 | Bger_ | XavierGr it's much more |
| 23:46:15 | webguest07 | Noone does |
| 23:46:20 | Bger_ | than 256 chars |
| 23:46:24 | Bger_ | (unicode chars) |
| 23:46:31 | XavierGr | yeah I mean that windows will probably choke only on a FAT32 disk not an NTFS |
| 23:46:32 | Bger_ | like 16536 ... |
| 23:46:39 | Bger_ | but i'm not sure |
| 23:46:44 | Bagder | is there even a limit? |
| 23:46:55 | Bger_ | i think there is |
| 23:47:08 | LinusN | XavierGr: yes, but rockbox can only generate fat32 files |
| 23:48:25 | XavierGr | So if rockbox generates a 260 filename and then you send it on windows with a FAT32. Windows will choke. But if it is on a NTFS system it won't. |
| 23:48:42 | hshah | LinusN - www.warwickforums.co.uk/usb.bmp |
| 23:48:53 | Bger_ | ok, internet over 33.6k is not internet ... |
| 23:49:04 | hshah | modified a bit of t0mas's one |
| 23:49:10 | LinusN | XavierGr: how can you "send it" to windows without windows reading the rockbox fat32 disk? |
| 23:49:39 | XavierGr | oops then I guess I am wrong. Just a thought. |
| 23:50:11 | Bagder | paths can be 32K in NTFS it seems, but the file part itself is limited to 255 only |
| 23:50:24 | webguest07 | That's... amusing |
| 23:50:51 | Bger_ | http://www.osronline.com/lists_archive/ntfsd/thread194.html <= hmm |
| 23:51:20 | XavierGr | It seems that I will have to play a bit in hellowrold plug-in before I try anything with the char buffers thing. |
| 23:51:35 | LinusN | XavierGr: work in the sim |
| 23:51:54 | XavierGr | That helloworld plug-in is great to test things, and learn new stuff. |
| 23:52:08 | | Quit the_winch ("This computer has gone to sleep") |
| 23:52:08 | XavierGr | LinusN: The jpeg viewer can't start in the sim. |
| 23:52:09 | LinusN | that's why it's there |
| 23:52:35 | LinusN | XavierGr: another reason to work in helloworld |
| 23:52:47 | XavierGr | yeah that is what I meant |
| 23:53:02 | XavierGr | is = was |
| 23:53:05 | LinusN | i would do it in the real rockbox code though |
| 23:53:16 | LinusN | and move it to a plugin when it works |
| 23:53:21 | Bagder | "someone" should make the greyscale stuff work in the sim :-) |
| 23:53:42 | LinusN | i though it did |
| 23:54:04 | t0mas | #define someone amiconn |
| 23:54:06 | LinusN | but i never tried |
| 23:54:17 | Bagder | so why doesn't the jpeg viewer work? |
| 23:54:29 | LinusN | because i am wrong? |
| 23:54:36 | Bger_ | anyone here with win9x ? |
| 23:54:39 | t0mas | hshah: I liked the original more |
| 23:54:40 | XavierGr | Well now that I think of it I will make the exact function that opens the directory in helloworld. Then I will play along with buffers and print with splashes() the uotput to see. |
| 23:54:59 | LinusN | i would do it in the real rockbox code though |
| 23:55:01 | LinusN | and move it to a plugin when it works |
| 23:55:14 | LinusN | because it's easier to debug |
| 23:55:15 | | Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") |
| 23:55:16 | Bger_ | Bagder did you see the link i gave ? see the first reply |
| 23:55:29 | XavierGr | what do you mean real rockbox code? |
| 23:55:37 | Bagder | Bger: what about it? |
| 23:55:47 | LinusN | XavierGr: like, in the debug menu or something |
| 23:56:17 | Bger_ | Bagder see |
| 23:56:30 | Bger_ | You can create arbitrarily long paths by renaming. part |
| 23:56:46 | dpassen1 | where is the source for HelloWorld plugin? |
| 23:56:53 | Bagder | http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/fs/naming_a_file.asp |
| 23:57:12 | Bagder | "In the Windows API, the maximum length for a path is MAX_PATH, which is defined as 260 characters." |
| 23:57:25 | XavierGr | LinusN:I don't have a clue about the debug menu. When I want to debug the code I write in the jpeg.c lcd_splash() with the variable I want to see if if it was written right. |
| 23:57:29 | LinusN | dpassen1: in cvs |
| 23:57:34 | dpassen1 | thanks |
| 23:57:47 | Bger_ | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/helloworld.c?rev=1.2&view=log |
| 23:58:02 | dpassen1 | thanks Bger |
| 23:58:05 | LinusN | XavierGr: if you write the code in the debug menu, you can use a debugger instead of splashing |
| 23:58:36 | LinusN | and i would use logf instead of splash |
| 23:58:53 | webguest07 | Logf is handy |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).