| 00:00:37 | amiconn | Bagder: What happened to the wiki? Fixing the bug demonstrated this evening? |
| 00:00:56 | Bagder | yep, gonna do that |
| 00:01:41 | Bagder | zagor is kind of the father of that install, so I'm letting him do it |
| 00:02:02 | amiconn | rasher: I don't think a 2-month release schedule is too short. |
| 00:02:16 | rasher | Updating twiki? |
| 00:02:24 | Bagder | rasher: yes |
| 00:02:38 | Bagder | there's an annoying info leak flaw in it |
| 00:03:11 | rasher | There's an automagic update-script I think.. |
| 00:03:27 | amiconn | With the current situation, releases stay "current" for a long time, so they are important, and receive special treatment involving extended feature freezes etc |
| 00:04:14 | rasher | Ah.. Good point. |
| 00:04:33 | amiconn | I think that more frequent releases will make them less special, so development won't be disturbed that much |
| 00:04:44 | Bagder | I agree |
| 00:05:28 | Bagder | I've released 89 curl releases in less than 8 years... |
| 00:05:34 | amiconn | And it would be a plus for the users that prefer to rely on release versions |
| 00:07:47 | rasher | I retract my concern. |
| 00:08:47 | Bagder | time for sleep |
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| 04:23:29 | shfhgedshgdf | does anybody know were i can get hacks fro the sdmx1 (sandiskplayer) hacks? |
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| 04:25:14 | shfhgedshgdf | ?? |
| 04:26:01 | secher | Heyas all.. I just recovered my Archos after thinking it was stolen about a year ago ( not stolen.. lost down the back of a buddy's couch.. anyway.. it was one hell of a night ), and I just went to reup my rockbox firmware, and there's no docs page.. anyone know where it got to? |
| 04:26:32 | shfhgedshgdf | does anybody know were i can get hacks fro the sdmx1 (sandiskplayer) hacks?? |
| 04:28:01 | shfhgedshgdf | ????????? |
| 04:28:03 | shfhgedshgdf | ????????? |
| 04:28:06 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????? |
| 04:28:08 | shfhgedshgdf | ??????? |
| 04:28:10 | shfhgedshgdf | ??????? |
| 04:28:11 | shfhgedshgdf | ?????? |
| 04:28:13 | shfhgedshgdf | ????? |
| 04:28:15 | shfhgedshgdf | ???? |
| 04:28:16 | shfhgedshgdf | ??? |
| 04:28:17 | shfhgedshgdf | ?? |
| 04:28:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK shfhgedshgdf |
| 04:28:18 | shfhgedshgdf | ? |
| 04:28:23 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????? |
| 04:28:24 | shfhgedshgdf | ? |
| 04:28:25 | shfhgedshgdf | ? |
| 04:28:26 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 04:28:26 | shfhgedshgdf | ? |
| 04:28:27 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 04:28:27 | shfhgedshgdf | ! |
| 04:28:29 | shfhgedshgdf | ! |
| 04:28:41 | shfhgedshgdf | !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:28:42 | pengo | you're going to need more question marks than that to get an answer |
| 04:28:47 | shfhgedshgdf | kk |
| 04:29:08 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:29:14 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:29:15 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 04:29:15 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:29:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 04:29:17 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:29:23 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 04:29:23 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:29:29 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:29:30 | pengo | please stop, shfhgedshgdf |
| 04:29:35 | shfhgedshgdf | ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 04:29:41 | shfhgedshgdf | is that enuff fuck face' |
| 04:29:48 | shfhgedshgdf | y wont any1 answer me |
| 04:29:54 | shfhgedshgdf | i waited 40 mins |
| 04:30:29 | pengo | because 3073 question marks was 3072 too many |
| 04:30:43 | shfhgedshgdf | o |
| 04:30:46 | shfhgedshgdf | life sucks |
| 04:30:55 | pengo | tell me about it |
| 04:31:01 | secher | pengo: you didn't actually tally all of the characters, did you? |
| 04:31:17 | pengo | secher, only of the last lot |
| 04:31:21 | secher | how? |
| 04:31:36 | pengo | python |
| 04:31:39 | pengo | a = "????????????" |
| 04:31:41 | shfhgedshgdf | where can i het hacks for flash based players? |
| 04:31:42 | pengo | length(a) |
| 04:31:46 | pengo | * 7 |
| 04:31:50 | shfhgedshgdf | where can i get hacks for flash based players? |
| 04:31:59 | secher | got it. |
| 04:32:31 | shfhgedshgdf | where can i get hacks for flash based players? |
| 04:32:52 | pengo | shfhgedshgdf, try google. |
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| 04:33:32 | secher | shf: it's traditional in IRC that if an answer is not known, there is no reply. Otherwise, for each question asked, there would be a litany of "I don't knows" and screens woudl ... nevermind. |
| 04:33:56 | pengo | heh |
| 04:34:46 | pengo | all the beautiful people |
| 04:35:10 | secher | I don't know if shf's nonsense scrolled my question off too quickly.. does anyone know where the docs page from rockbox.org went? |
| 04:36:37 | pengo | i use google a lot with; site:rockbox.org docs |
| 04:36:44 | pengo | or so |
| 04:37:44 | secher | ahhh.. life is occasionally good.. in bed, AC blowing right on me, Grateful Dead playing in the background, dicking around on my laptop and my GF sacked out naked beside me. <SMILE> *sigh* Thnaks Pengo, I forgot about the site: option in Google.. I've only used it a couple of times. |
| 04:38:18 | Febs | secher, it looks like the whole wiki is down, not just the docs page. |
| 04:39:24 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 04:39:42 | secher | it is.. from twiki/bin on down. |
| 04:44:37 | pengo | secher, my girl left me. my laptop's power brick is broken. i have a sore neck from sitting in bed on the computer. i have the heater on because it's cold and raining outside. at least i have my rockbox iriver playing meat beat manifesto from flac. |
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| 05:44:38 | OPP | hello! |
| 05:47:54 | CheeseBurgerMan | Hello. |
| 05:47:58 | OPP | bootloader in "weeks" |
| 05:47:58 | OPP | im so pumped |
| 05:47:58 | OPP | should be soon |
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| 06:49:24 | snax | I think I found an ogg file that crashes rockbox |
| 06:49:37 | pengo | i found one too |
| 06:49:44 | pengo | but it was a renamed .flac file |
| 06:50:07 | snax | ah, well, I encoded this one before flac existed, so I don't think that's the case :P |
| 06:52:16 | snax | anyway, is there any person or place I should send the file so the devs can try to reproduce it? |
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| 08:27:25 | Slasheri | snax: how long is that file? |
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| 09:35:13 | amiconn | Hrmpf. Cross-linked clusters... :( |
| 09:37:49 | Slasheri | "nice", the wiki on our server has been already cracked (yesterday). That security flaw must be quite new i think. Fortunately all logs are intact so it's easy to send abuse to isp and no other damage seem to be done. |
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| 09:49:03 | Maxime | [22:36] <Domonoky> Hi.. rockbox should update the twiki, it has a big bug.. |
| 09:49:03 | Maxime | [22:36] <Domonoky> sample url: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers?rev=2%20%7Cless%20/etc/passwd |
| 09:49:03 | Maxime | [22:37] <Domonoky> bad, bad :-) |
| 09:49:50 | Jefe | how come when I click on Wiki it doesnt show up? |
| 09:49:51 | Maxime | Slasheri: nobody wanted to de something "bad", but just tell you this |
| 09:51:28 | Jefe | Hello? |
| 09:51:38 | Maxime | erm |
| 09:51:58 | Maxime | Jefe: maybe someone is upgrading the wiki.. |
| 09:52:10 | Jefe | ah |
| 09:52:38 | Jefe | then they are upgrading documentaitions too. |
| 09:52:46 | Maxime | not sure |
| 09:52:57 | Maxime | Jefe: upgrading the wiki system i think |
| 09:53:01 | Slasheri | Maxime: Yes, however our server was exploited even before anyone mentioned about that. I noticed that today because system loads were high |
| 09:53:18 | Jefe | alright thanks |
| 09:53:39 | Slasheri | hopefully everybody will update their wikis.. |
| 09:53:54 | Maxime | Slasheri: if you see an IP like "82.229.205...", don't "abuse" for it, it's me, just to see the exploit heh? :x |
| 09:54:17 | Slasheri | Maxime: no, i don't think i will see that ;) |
| 09:54:24 | Maxime | okai lol |
| 09:54:40 | Maxime | (just tried a few "ls" to see the limits of the flaw) |
| 09:54:42 | Slasheri | it was just our server and nothing to do with rockbox |
| 09:54:42 | Jefe | by the way what does wiki mean? |
| 09:54:55 | Maxime | ok |
| 09:56:11 | Slasheri | Jefe: it's a content management system where everybody can create an account and edit the web pages |
| 09:56:25 | Slasheri | and there was some bug in the code that allowed remote code excecution |
| 09:56:42 | Jefe | thanks |
| 09:57:06 | Jefe | goodbye |
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| 10:57:08 | * | amiconn found single-bit errors in the FAT |
| 10:57:27 | amiconn | I wonder what caused these... |
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| 11:04:11 | Sandking | hello |
| 11:04:34 | Sandking | anyone knows an rvf player for os x or windows? |
| 11:09:19 | odd | what is rvf? |
| 11:09:50 | Sandking | video format |
| 11:10:03 | Sandking | rockbox uses it as far as i know |
| 11:10:35 | Sandking | is there any way to autmatically rename output of databox search? |
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| 11:16:15 | ]RowaN[ | i have a mp3 file that foobar reports as having a tagtype of "id3v2|lyrics3" ... does that means its got lyrics embedded? how can i view them? |
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| 11:29:49 | amiconn | ]RowaN[: You'll need a program that supports lyrics3 tags. I suppose there aren't that many |
| 11:30:18 | amiconn | Obviously foobar knows about them, so I think it should be able to display them, but then I never used foobar myself |
| 11:30:57 | amiconn | The godfather also know about them, but I don't have such files so I can't say whether/how it displays them at playback |
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| 11:52:16 | preglow | what's up with the wiki? |
| 11:52:57 | amiconn | It went offline a while after someone posted this in the channel: |
| 11:53:18 | amiconn | [22:34:54] <Domonoky> Hi.. rockbox should update the twiki, it has a big bug.. |
| 11:53:18 | amiconn | [22:35:04] <Domonoky> sample url: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers?rev=2%20%7Cless%20/etc/passwd |
| 11:53:18 | amiconn | [22:35:34] <Domonoky> bad, bad :-) |
| 11:54:02 | preglow | haha |
| 11:54:03 | amiconn | I suppposed one of the Swedes took it offline for updating, but it seems I was wrong (at least partially) |
| 11:54:26 | preglow | that's one of the most blatantly idiotic bugs i've ever seen |
| 11:54:29 | preglow | kudos to the coders |
| 11:56:41 | amiconn | http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/SecurityAlertExecuteCommandsWithSearch |
| 11:56:45 | Rick | preglow: Surely PHPNuke had worse bugs ;) |
| 11:58:00 | amiconn | Known and fixed for over a year... |
| 11:59:11 | preglow | why the hell would anyone actually execute _anything_ from an url string, never mind if you actually do sanity checks or not |
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| 12:00:32 | Rick | preglow: laziness? speed? |
| 12:01:02 | preglow | add stupidity, and we've got an agreement |
| 12:01:16 | Rick | agreed |
| 12:01:16 | Rick | :) |
| 12:01:56 | amiconn | Now I confirmed that one of (Recorder v1, Ondio FM) has it's line input reversed, and I know that it is the Ondio |
| 12:03:03 | amiconn | My recording tests didn't turn out well :( |
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| 12:05:18 | preglow | in what way? |
| 12:05:54 | amiconn | Bitshifted recordings, again, and also on Ondio |
| 12:06:43 | preglow | well, ondio is pretty close hardware-wise to the player, yes? |
| 12:06:50 | amiconn | Imho this excludes the possibility that voltage dips caused by disk spinups confuse the MAS |
| 12:07:36 | amiconn | The Ondio is very close hardware-wise to the recorders, except the mass storage |
| 12:07:49 | amiconn | ...which is flash based (MMC) |
| 12:08:12 | preglow | ahh, recorder it was |
| 12:09:40 | amiconn | Furthermore I got some single-bit errors in the FAT on Ondio... |
| 12:10:34 | amiconn | They might have been caused by rockbox... :( |
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| 12:18:57 | preglow | sounds like a subtle bug, in that case |
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| 12:44:14 | ]RowaN[ | guys is Prison Break good? |
| 12:44:43 | ]RowaN[ | oops wrong chan hehe |
| 12:48:52 | amiconn | Strange... |
| 12:50:09 | amiconn | Someone pls explain wth the MAS is doing here |
| 12:51:16 | amiconn | Total length of test recordings: 13 h 19 min. |
| 12:51:32 | amiconn | Ondio: First 2 h 50 min okay, next 1 h 21 min bitshifted >>1, next 8 h 41 min bitshifted >>3 |
| 12:52:32 | amiconn | Recorder: First 4 h 47 min okay (with a stray byte at 1 h 06 min), next 51 min bitshifted >>1, after that back to normal (!) for the next 7 h 41 min |
| 12:55:22 | ]RowaN[ | hmm crossfade doesnt always seem to happen when listening to a playlist.. thats my experience anyway |
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| 13:29:12 | Lear | Hm... The Wiki link doesn't work... |
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| 13:31:12 | * | amiconn summons Bagder, Zagor, or LinusN |
| 13:32:55 | preglow | amiconn: strange |
| 13:33:45 | * | preglow strokes software codecs |
| 13:34:11 | amiconn | Do we have a software encoder? ;) |
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| 13:38:16 | preglow | heh |
| 13:38:20 | preglow | oh well |
| 13:38:28 | preglow | we hopefully do, some day |
| 13:38:42 | preglow | at least the debugability beats hardware encoders |
| 13:43:25 | preglow | the quality is probably another matter... |
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| 14:46:48 | webguest01 | Lear, could I interest you in implementing Replay Gain 'Track' mode if shuffle is selected, as an option, please |
| 14:47:20 | crwl | [15:46] <Perzi> Vae jäkistä O_o |
| 14:47:25 | crwl | oops |
| 14:51:37 | solex | fuck fuck fuck! |
| 14:51:43 | solex | my iriver's hd is dying. |
| 14:52:12 | Maxime | Rest in peace. |
| 14:52:20 | solex | it played well for the last few hours |
| 14:52:32 | solex | and suddenly i hear that the disk is not spinning down |
| 14:52:49 | solex | it only spins up and does 'click click' |
| 14:52:52 | solex | fuck fuck fuck |
| 14:53:07 | solex | sorry for the noise... |
| 14:53:51 | crwl | well, you can buy a bigger one for replacement :P |
| 14:59:58 | solex | it's only two months old so i'll get a replacement |
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| 15:01:02 | rasher | solex: sounds like you're just out of battery? |
| 15:01:22 | rasher | Plug the charger and wait a while |
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| 15:17:29 | goa | short question: is it technically possible for the iHP140 hardware to allow to rockbox to connect to an usb massstorage device (digicam) to get pictures from their mostly limited internal storage (SD cards etc).. |
| 15:17:40 | goa | -to |
| 15:18:43 | Maxime | no |
| 15:18:58 | Maxime | for the H120 it's not possible, I don't think it's possible with the 140 |
| 15:19:16 | goa | ok, why? does it need some sort of usb host controller? |
| 15:19:24 | Maxime | yup |
| 15:19:25 | rasher | Precisely |
| 15:19:27 | goa | ok |
| 15:19:34 | Maxime | sth like that ^^ |
| 15:19:35 | rasher | Only available in the H300s |
| 15:19:41 | goa | :/ |
| 15:20:52 | rasher | You can get little boxes that act as a sort of hub that moves data from one usb-storage device to another |
| 15:20:56 | goa | there are no other third party devices arround that let two usb mass storage devices communicate in that way? |
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| 15:21:19 | goa | rasher: oh, do you have an url? |
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| 15:21:34 | rasher | No, I'm afraid not, but I do know that they exist |
| 15:21:35 | LinusN | wonderful, some asshole just deleted our entire wiki |
| 15:21:35 | goa | or brand name or sth.. |
| 15:21:54 | Sucka | O_O |
| 15:21:58 | rasher | LinusN: I thought Bagder had taken it offline? |
| 15:22:19 | LinusN | no, it's deöeted |
| 15:22:30 | LinusN | everything is gone |
| 15:22:31 | rasher | crikey |
| 15:23:01 | LinusN | i wish the guy who pointed out the flaw didn't do it in the channel |
| 15:23:21 | rasher | I doubt that's what caused it |
| 15:23:25 | Maxime | It's what he did.. |
| 15:23:41 | rasher | I'm betting people have been googling for "twiki" and bombing everything furiously |
| 15:24:36 | Maxime | (erm, someone know what does "No buffer space available" means in windows? :x) |
| 15:24:43 | Maxime | can't connect anywhere |
| 15:25:12 | solex | rasher: thanks for the hint about battery. it displayed 5% when the device misbehaved. |
| 15:25:19 | solex | i'll recharge when i am at home |
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| 15:26:33 | rasher | That would be it. Harddisk trying to spin up when there's not enough power will do that |
| 15:29:10 | rasher | http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:v3gkQV1Q_bEJ:www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort%3Fraw%3Don+site:rockbox.org+%3D%3D%3D+raw :-\ |
| 15:29:37 | amiconn | LinusN: I hope there is a backup... |
| 15:30:21 | LinusN | the backup system has been down for a few weeks because of server problems... |
| 15:30:27 | rasher | "Funny", I was thinking not too long ago why you were running such an old twiki version |
| 15:30:38 | rasher | guess I should have mentioned it |
| 15:31:08 | * | amiconn screams aaargh! |
| 15:31:28 | rasher | google has cache of most pages |
| 15:31:34 | rasher | Slightly outdated of course |
| 15:31:41 | rasher | But newer than "a few weeks" |
| 15:31:49 | LinusN | someone better start digging in google |
| 15:31:57 | amiconn | All the documentaion efforts.... |
| 15:32:11 | rasher | site:rockbox.org raw [pagename] |
| 15:32:38 | rasher | Pick the pages with "raw=on" in the url for easy copy&paste operation |
| 15:32:47 | amiconn | Nobody should be allowed run servers without proper backups |
| 15:33:21 | * | Domonoky feels bad for mention this in the chat... |
| 15:33:52 | * | amiconn seriously thinks about a several week rockbox break now |
| 15:34:06 | * | Domonoky schould have thought about the log... |
| 15:34:20 | rasher | Personally I don't think that's what caused it |
| 15:34:27 | rasher | Though hard to tell |
| 15:34:30 | Domonoky | if i could help somehow, please tell me.. |
| 15:34:53 | Domonoky | shure the bug was already in the news.. |
| 15:35:02 | rasher | Looking the apache logs for the offending hit (ip) could be interesting |
| 15:35:13 | rasher | although most likely it just points at an open proxy |
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| 15:37:10 | LinusN | rasher: i'm seraching the logs |
| 15:37:55 | Maxime | look for the page named 2.php |
| 15:38:07 | Maxime | or calls like 2%20 |
| 15:38:34 | Maxime | or calls like =2%20 |
| 15:38:38 | Maxime | or sth like this |
| 15:39:23 | rasher | I now have the webchanges file from google cache updated yesterday |
| 15:39:37 | webguest01 | pardon my ignorance, but was this malicious ? |
| 15:39:39 | rasher | Lists all pages changed since sep. 2 |
| 15:40:00 | rasher | should tell us what to look for |
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| 15:41:40 | LinusN | webguest01: i'd say deleting the entire wiki can be called malicious |
| 15:42:11 | webguest01 | what a wanker, |
| 15:47:14 | Slasheri | Hmm, i just take some measurements how stable a "clock" would be on iriver and with standard setup directly using the kernel tick timer, it would drift off at least 2 minutes per day. I don't think it would be really sensible even think about implementing a clock feature unless we could compensate that drift somehow. |
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| 15:58:50 | Yokalosh | hey guys, do you have plans to ever work on the iRiver mp4 players? |
| 15:59:28 | Yokalosh | that would be ace |
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| 16:06:59 | Yokalosh | i just bought a iRiver pmp 120 so yeh |
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| 16:07:50 | Slasheri | LinusN: wiki on our ihme.org has been also compromised yeasterday (before that url was even pasted on this channel), hard to say if there is some connection. Or then that bug might be so new that some people are searching wikis through google and exploiting them :/ |
| 16:09:12 | Domonoky | the bug was on a popular newspage, so people searching exploitable wikis are possible.. |
| 16:09:33 | LinusN | our log is full of exploit attempts |
| 16:10:37 | Slasheri | the cracker used several ips, at least: 67.169.227.28 and 71.50.97.192 |
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| 16:10:55 | Slasheri | :/ |
| 16:11:31 | rasher | I'm pulling wiki pages out of google |
| 16:11:35 | rasher | a bit slow.. |
| 16:12:17 | solex | Slasheri: hm: All 1663 scanned ports on nc-71-50-97-192.dyn.sprint-hsd.net (71.50.97.192) are: closed |
| 16:12:26 | Slasheri | fortunately google has most? of them cached |
| 16:12:27 | solex | but it is a dynamically assigned address |
| 16:12:46 | solex | 67.169.227.28 is better: |
| 16:12:47 | rasher | Slasheri: outdated though |
| 16:12:48 | Slasheri | yes, the address is dynamic.. maybe already changed |
| 16:13:12 | solex | ftp, ssh, http, irc, afs3 and "Elite" open |
| 16:13:18 | LinusN | 85.140.9.74 - - [16/Sep/2005:23:17:21 +0200] "GET /twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUser |
| 16:13:18 | LinusN | s?rev=2%20%7|rm%20-Rf%20/ HTTP/1.0" 500 1071 "-" "Nutscrape/1.0 (CP/M; 8-bit)" |
| 16:13:42 | solex | is 67.169.227.28 dynamicylly, too? |
| 16:13:58 | Slasheri | LinusN: huh, please write abuse to that isp.. |
| 16:14:08 | Slasheri | solex: yes |
| 16:14:10 | LinusN | ppp85-140-9-74.pppoe.mtu-net.ru |
| 16:14:20 | rasher | .ru .. :( |
| 16:14:25 | LinusN | figures |
| 16:14:27 | solex | .ru seems down atm |
| 16:14:35 | solex | no luck |
| 16:15:41 | rasher | Gar, why won't google cache ALL pages it finds |
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| 16:26:23 | tucoz | hi, what the hell is wrong with people. What is the point of deleting a wiki? scum of the earth is what I call it. |
| 16:26:45 | Shapeshifter | yep |
| 16:27:16 | aliask | Hey guys, I just heard the bad news, and I'm going to start helping piece stuff together, could someone give me some basic syntax so I can start working on pages where google didn't cache the raw data. |
| 16:27:17 | Shapeshifter | another q: what, if the iriver cant display bmps anymore? none of the bmps of any wps is shown -.- |
| 16:27:46 | Shapeshifter | ah, who deleted the wiki? |
| 16:27:49 | tucoz | rasher: if you are here, I would like to help you with the restoring effort, but have little time now. Anyway, search.msn.com, www.alltheweb.com, www.yahoo.com might have cached other pages than google. |
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| 16:28:38 | Slasheri | msn and yahoo have seem to access wikis quite frequently |
| 16:29:00 | LinusN | in fact, he deleted everything on the computer owned by "www-data" |
| 16:29:12 | Shapeshifter | who |
| 16:29:22 | LinusN | Shapeshifter: we'll never know |
| 16:29:38 | Shapeshifter | phew |
| 16:29:39 | rasher | tucoz: Good |
| 16:29:40 | LinusN | some guy on a russian dialup |
| 16:29:57 | aliask | LinusN: Oh dear. Was the main site hosted on another server or something? |
| 16:30:01 | rasher | tucoz: I'll put my status-for-restoring somewhere public |
| 16:30:01 | tucoz | That guy should be worked on with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch ;) |
| 16:30:23 | LinusN | aliask: the main site wasn't owned by www-data |
| 16:30:36 | tucoz | rasher: good. I'll check back later. Gotta follow the missus to town. |
| 16:31:00 | aliask | LinusN: Just as well. |
| 16:31:23 | aliask | Can we get a temporary wiki set up so we can start piecing this back together? |
| 16:31:39 | tucoz | see you later. |
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| 16:32:39 | rasher | I think the best way is to restore whatever backup exists |
| 16:32:42 | rasher | and then work from there |
| 16:33:03 | aliask | How old is the backup? |
| 16:33:10 | rasher | can someone find a version of WebChanges that shows edits farther back than Sep. 2? |
| 16:33:59 | rasher | aliask: "a few weeks" is what Linus said |
| 16:34:11 | LinusN | more like a month... |
| 16:34:34 | aliask | Well, I'm sure there are plenty of pages that have been cached more recently than that by google or yahoo. |
| 16:34:58 | rasher | Yup |
| 16:35:02 | rasher | Already have quite a few |
| 16:35:31 | rasher | I'm guessing that as soon as the searchengines start crawling the site again, the cache will be emptied? |
| 16:35:40 | rasher | seeing as the pages will no longer be there |
| 16:35:55 | aliask | Yeah, I thought so too, which is why I suggested getting a wiki up asap. |
| 16:36:48 | rasher | don't think that'll help |
| 16:37:00 | aliask | rasher: http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=rockbox+webchanges&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebChanges%3Frev%3D1.2&w=rockbox+webchanges&d=S_ugw8p5LWNl&icp=1&.intl=us |
| 16:37:36 | aliask | Well, it would at least be somewhere to store the data before it gets wiped, whenever that is. |
| 16:37:49 | rasher | I'm just saving google results on my harddisk |
| 16:37:54 | rasher | as html |
| 16:38:07 | rasher | And as .txt for pages where the "view raw" version is cached |
| 16:38:15 | rasher | adding the revision number and date to the filename |
| 16:38:34 | rasher | aliask: wow, that's old! |
| 16:38:46 | aliask | Good old yahoo. |
| 16:39:02 | rasher | LinusN: Any idea how old the backup is? |
| 16:39:24 | rasher | No idea focusing on saving stuff that hasn't changed since the last backup |
| 16:39:37 | Shapeshifter | may be there is some useful stuff here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://rockbox.org |
| 16:39:44 | rasher | Shapeshifter: could be |
| 16:41:35 | LinusN | rasher: "about a month old" |
| 16:41:42 | LinusN | according to our sysadmin |
| 16:42:05 | LinusN | i'll see how fast i can restore the backup |
| 16:42:17 | LinusN | i'm not at the office right now |
| 16:42:30 | LinusN | so keep digging |
| 16:43:28 | | Part Shapeshifter |
| 16:43:29 | LinusN | i'll be away for a while, cu later |
| 16:43:33 | rasher | So pages older than .. say Aug. 10th are not interesting |
| 16:43:38 | LinusN | no |
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| 16:45:03 | rasher | http://google.com/search?num=100q=site%3Arockbox.org+inurl%3Araw%3Don < that one's good |
| 16:48:09 | * | rasher curses "Supplemental results" |
| 16:49:12 | LinusN | who needs a backup when you have google :-) |
| 16:49:41 | aliask | :) |
| 16:49:56 | LinusN | gotta go |
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| 16:50:10 | rasher | well if they would just cache EVERY page ever, it'd be much better |
| 16:53:34 | solex | tape backup is for wimps only... :) |
| 16:54:36 | rasher | Real men don't make backups. |
| 16:55:03 | rasher | This goes well with "Real men are not afraid to cry" |
| 16:56:14 | webguest01 | real cowboys dont cry, they punch their horses |
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| 17:01:47 | webguest21 | Hello here |
| 17:02:07 | webguest21 | can i ask a mittle WPS question please? |
| 17:03:01 | aliask | Go ahead, I'll try to answer it, but I'm no expert. |
| 17:05:42 | webguest21 | %fc-%?fv<%fbkb/s VBRI%fbkb/s CBRI> à %ffHz |
| 17:06:20 | webguest21 | with the new WPS modifications this line didn't work for cbr files |
| 17:06:30 | webguest21 | just VBR |
| 17:06:40 | webguest21 | it worked fine before |
| 17:07:14 | aliask | I think that capital I after VBR should be a | |
| 17:07:34 | webguest21 | yes it is just I can't do it with thi laptop |
| 17:07:41 | aliask | Oh ok. |
| 17:08:17 | aliask | What's the "Ã " doing? |
| 17:08:24 | webguest21 | before WPS modifs codes that worked |
| 17:08:34 | webguest21 | à is a french letter |
| 17:08:50 | webguest21 | for at |
| 17:09:02 | aliask | Ok, I was just checking, because it seemed a bit out of place, but then again I'm not french :) |
| 17:09:25 | webguest21 | à isn't a code thing just word |
| 17:10:40 | aliask | As far as I can tell, it looks ok, but this is just me looking at what you have written and checking it against the CustomWPS wiki page. |
| 17:11:18 | webguest21 | grg with this client I can paste/cut :( |
| 17:11:25 | webguest21 | can't |
| 17:11:54 | webguest21 | wiki down :( |
| 17:12:04 | rasher | wiki gone, more like |
| 17:12:34 | webguest21 | ? |
| 17:12:40 | aliask | Yeah, I'll give you a link to the cached version. |
| 17:12:50 | webguest21 | ok thanks |
| 17:12:59 | webguest21 | other little question please |
| 17:13:07 | webguest21 | about the snap font |
| 17:13:16 | rasher | What about it? |
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| 17:13:45 | aliask | webguest21: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:iV-vaRt8HvgJ:www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS+site:rockbox.org+custom+wps&hl=en&client=firefox-a |
| 17:14:04 | webguest21 | do you know a font with same size |
| 17:14:16 | rasher | rockfont-8 I think |
| 17:14:24 | webguest21 | I can't look at it well, and lot of WPS using this font |
| 17:14:56 | webguest21 | are there bold fonts? |
| 17:15:08 | webguest21 | aliask: thanks |
| 17:15:24 | aliask | No probs. |
| 17:15:39 | rasher | webguest21: don't think so |
| 17:15:47 | webguest21 | is there a flatty snap? |
| 17:15:55 | webguest21 | ok |
| 17:16:10 | webguest21 | or equivalent in terme in size |
| 17:17:20 | webguest21 | rasher: rockfont-8 is in .rockbox dir or need to dowload it? |
| 17:17:30 | rasher | It should be included |
| 17:17:40 | webguest21 | ok i'll look |
| 17:17:57 | rasher | It isn't same size though |
| 17:17:59 | rasher | hang on |
| 17:18:06 | rasher | There's one which is |
| 17:18:57 | webguest21 | :( |
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| 17:19:19 | ]RowaN[ | what happened about the idea of putting the main rockbox executable inside the .rockbox dir? |
| 17:19:23 | webguest21 | anyone to dowloaded? |
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| 17:19:32 | webguest21 | @rasher |
| 17:19:59 | rasher | you could try looking at rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/ |
| 17:20:31 | webguest21 | I already looked but there are a lot |
| 17:20:35 | rasher | alt6x10 is (included with rockbox) |
| 17:20:45 | rasher | or 6x10 |
| 17:20:47 | webguest21 | and don't have simulator for test them |
| 17:20:49 | rasher | both are same height |
| 17:20:55 | webguest21 | ok I trying |
| 17:21:50 | webguest21 | :( |
| 17:21:54 | rasher | What? |
| 17:22:04 | webguest21 | languages problems |
| 17:22:16 | webguest21 | not compatible with french :( |
| 17:22:27 | webguest21 | pitty it was the same size |
| 17:22:28 | Lear | rowan: not possible for some (probably most) modesl. |
| 17:22:38 | rasher | webguest21: 6x10 is |
| 17:23:03 | rasher | alt6x10 isn't. |
| 17:23:07 | webguest21 | alt6*10 |
| 17:23:26 | aliask | G'night everyone, good luck with the wiki. |
| 17:23:28 | rasher | rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/75dpi/helvB10-L1.fnt">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/75dpi/helvB10-L1.fnt might be the same size |
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| 17:23:45 | webguest21 | oh that rocks |
| 17:23:55 | webguest21 | thanks rasher |
| 17:24:59 | webguest21 | any flatty font? |
| 17:25:22 | rasher | flatty? |
| 17:25:34 | webguest21 | I'm habit with neodore 8 |
| 17:25:56 | webguest21 | bold I believe in english? |
| 17:26:35 | rasher | Ah yes. Not that I know of |
| 17:27:04 | webguest21 | bold is good for readability :) |
| 17:27:59 | webguest21 | I think I will use your WPS rasher |
| 17:28:07 | webguest21 | it sounds good |
| 17:28:20 | webguest21 | snap font too :( |
| 17:28:32 | webguest21 | 6*10 now :) |
| 17:29:06 | webguest21 | snap in bold could be very beautiful and easy to read |
| 17:29:21 | webguest21 | any way to make it? |
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| 17:30:29 | webguest21 | how can I add it to my .rockbox? |
| 17:31:10 | Shapeshifter | rasher: did you do the snapwise wps? |
| 17:31:10 | webguest21 | rasher? |
| 17:33:10 | rasher | I didn't make the snapwise wps, no |
| 17:33:30 | rasher | webguest21: Sure it can be done.. I might even do it some day |
| 17:33:43 | webguest21 | is it easy to do? |
| 17:34:41 | rasher | If you have a font editor, it isn't too hard |
| 17:35:08 | webguest21 | for a newbee like me is it easy too? :) |
| 17:35:36 | webguest21 | I don't have font editor, I'm windoze user :( |
| 17:36:06 | rasher | Probably not, no |
| 17:36:21 | rasher | I didn't think I'd ever say this, but.. Hurray for MSN search! |
| 17:36:29 | rasher | (it caches more) |
| 17:36:54 | webguest21 | for wiki restore? |
| 17:37:11 | rasher | Yeah |
| 17:37:28 | webguest21 | is it good to hear |
| 17:39:24 | webguest21 | rasher: how can I do this font edition please, or if you have few seconds for help me can you do it for me if you did already an font editor please? |
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| 17:42:45 | rasher | webguest21: I don't know how to get a bdf font editor working on windows, sorry |
| 17:42:58 | rasher | webguest21: I'll do a bold snap later today probably |
| 17:43:35 | webguest21 | thanks a lot for this I will use your WPS screen witout problem |
| 17:44:06 | webguest21 | I will back later tanks again and bye all |
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| 17:49:51 | linuxstb | rasher: I've a few pages in my browser's cache on my laptop (from yesterday). So I can help a little with the repairs. |
| 17:51:24 | rasher | Good thinking |
| 17:51:35 | rasher | I have most pages up to date actually, I think |
| 17:51:49 | rasher | of those that have been changed between sep. 2 and sep. 16 at least |
| 17:53:28 | rasher | I need to find a cache of "webchanges" that shows older changes :-\ |
| 17:53:51 | Lear | What, was the wiki problem something serious? |
| 17:54:39 | rasher | It's gone. |
| 17:54:54 | rasher | Last backup is "about a month old" |
| 17:55:06 | Lear | Any idea what happened? |
| 17:55:35 | rasher | Someone exploited a bug in twiki and deleted everything |
| 17:56:06 | Lear | Ouch. That's mean... |
| 17:56:22 | rasher | Totally. |
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| 18:32:28 | goa | mh, when setting the max dirs per folder to 10000 or near to that number my ihp 140 freezes up within the next few seconds.. is this something known? |
| 18:32:46 | goa | up to 5000 seems to work ok.. |
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| 18:33:20 | bluebrother^ | it is known to make problems when setting the value too high |
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| 18:33:43 | goa | ok |
| 18:34:00 | bluebrother^ | but I don't know the exact value |
| 18:34:29 | bluebrother^ | If you don't need a higher value stick at the defaults (was always sufficient for me) |
| 18:34:45 | goa | 400 was to low for me :/ |
| 18:35:19 | goa | i have lots of unsorted stuff in one dir.. |
| 18:35:40 | bluebrother^ | this would be to much messed up for me |
| 18:36:04 | goa | sure, if i find the time.. :/ |
| 18:36:23 | bluebrother^ | IIRC the playlist value is more problematic. |
| 18:36:38 | bluebrother^ | but I could be wrong ... try searching the forums. |
| 18:36:38 | rasher | goa: so set it to 1500 - works for me |
| 18:36:45 | goa | rasher: ok |
| 18:36:51 | rasher | or 2000, or whatever is the minimum that works for you |
| 18:36:58 | goa | 1500 is ok |
| 18:37:02 | rasher | don't just yank it way up |
| 18:37:08 | goa | ok =) |
| 18:37:18 | rasher | But it Rockbox still shouldn't freeze, of course |
| 18:38:38 | rasher | Looks like we won't be missing that much from the crash |
| 18:38:49 | rasher | Er.. exploit, I guess |
| 18:38:58 | rasher | Most pages are in the google cache |
| 18:39:08 | rasher | Of course rewriting html > wiki will be a pain |
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| 18:39:46 | goa | there is no backup of it? |
| 18:40:08 | rasher | There is - 1 month old unfortunately |
| 18:40:13 | rasher | but way better than nothing of course |
| 18:43:38 | goa | hmm, is there anything i could help rockbox besides writing code (don't have the time)? i work at an isp, maybe we could provide better hosting, or a server, or whatever might be needed.. |
| 18:44:14 | rasher | I think hosting and server is pretty covered |
| 18:44:18 | goa | ok |
| 18:44:26 | rasher | Writing documentation is always helpful |
| 18:45:24 | rasher | Of course now that the wiki is AWOL, that's a bit hard |
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| 18:46:49 | goa | i fear i'm not the right person to do that, i'm using rockbox for only two weeks or so.. and i did not even read the existing docs, it just worked the way i expected it to do :) |
| 18:47:54 | goa | anyway, thanks for this great software. |
| 18:48:02 | rasher | Hanging around here trying to answer questions |
| 18:48:20 | goa | ok :)\ |
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| 19:02:32 | rasher | Looks like archive.org doesn't like rockbox.org. |
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| 19:25:11 | rasher | I now have copies of all pages that have been changed since August 6th. |
| 19:25:23 | rasher | Some pages have lost a couple of revisions |
| 19:25:57 | rasher | But it's not *that* bad, assuming the backup can be restored |
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| 19:33:33 | ]RowaN[ | anyone know a program that can copy file dates? i have a backup of my mp3s from ages ago, and i want to copy the dates over onto my current set (which foobar buggered up when it retagged them) |
| 19:34:32 | rasher | no idea |
| 19:34:35 | fuzzie | rasher: excellent |
| 19:34:40 | bluebrother^ | ]RowaN[: touch. |
| 19:34:47 | rasher | fuzzie: hm? |
| 19:34:52 | bluebrother^ | IIRC :-) |
| 19:35:28 | ]RowaN[ | cool thanks |
| 19:35:32 | ]RowaN[ | http://www.ss64.com/nt/touch.html |
| 19:36:14 | * | rasher didn't know touch could actually *do* stuff |
| 19:38:09 | bluebrother^ | :) |
| 19:44:29 | * | HCl looks around |
| 19:44:44 | * | HCl goes to test his new database design |
| 19:45:02 | Moos | go go go :D |
| 19:45:24 | dpassen1 | good luck |
| 19:46:21 | HCl | thanks :p |
| 19:46:29 | HCl | its not that big a change, i'm sure it'll be fine |
| 19:46:40 | dpassen1 | what are the differences? |
| 19:46:41 | HCl | the only annoying bit is that it bumps the version of both the tagdatabase and the runtime database |
| 19:46:59 | HCl | an extra field that describes the hashing algorithm used to generate the filehash |
| 19:47:12 | HCl | to support different types of hashing, and hashtype upgrades |
| 19:47:19 | HCl | and having no hash |
| 19:48:20 | HCl | without it, we can't upgrade the hashing algorithm without making everyone's runtime database garbage |
| 19:48:57 | Moos | good improuvment |
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| 20:00:36 | HCl | i'm not good with perl... |
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| 20:05:47 | * | HCl reads his perl cookbook |
| 20:06:03 | HCl | oi. |
| 20:06:06 | HCl | why am i getting a 404 |
| 20:06:09 | HCl | on our WebHome |
| 20:06:12 | HCl | for the rockbox wiki? |
| 20:06:14 | rasher | The wiki is dead |
| 20:06:20 | HCl | oi |
| 20:06:22 | HCl | since when |
| 20:06:27 | HCl | is it backupped? |
| 20:06:30 | rasher | Last night I think.. There was an exploit |
| 20:06:35 | HCl | oi. |
| 20:06:39 | HCl | not good. |
| 20:06:39 | rasher | Backup is about a month old :-\ |
| 20:06:45 | HCl | >.<; |
| 20:06:48 | HCl | gah. |
| 20:06:49 | rasher | I've pulled most pages from google |
| 20:06:52 | rasher | As html though |
| 20:07:02 | rasher | A few pages have lost some revisions |
| 20:07:06 | rasher | it's not too bad |
| 20:07:18 | rasher | But it *will* take a while to reconstruct from html pages |
| 20:07:38 | HCl | merf. |
| 20:07:44 | HCl | can you put them online somewhere? |
| 20:07:48 | HCl | i need my database v2 document |
| 20:07:52 | rasher | I'm in the process of doing just that |
| 20:07:55 | rasher | hang on |
| 20:08:31 | rasher | rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/WikiRescue/DatabaseV2-r1.63%20-%2009-06.txt">http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/WikiRescue/DatabaseV2-r1.63%20-%2009-06.txt |
| 20:08:36 | rasher | That's in wiki syntax |
| 20:08:52 | rasher | http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:VYSfumTBn4sJ:www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DatabaseV2+site:rockbox.org+inurl:DatabaseV2&hl=en |
| 20:08:57 | rasher | Google cache of the page |
| 20:09:02 | HCl | thanks |
| 20:09:17 | HCl | not bad |
| 20:09:21 | HCl | thats actually my last version |
| 20:09:42 | rasher | Yup |
| 20:10:00 | rasher | Very few pages have lost revisions |
| 20:10:15 | rasher | (except user-pages perhaps - I haven't bothered with those) |
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| 20:12:16 | HCl | mhm |
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| 20:16:59 | rasher | Evening B4gder |
| 20:18:15 | B4gder | hey |
| 20:18:28 | B4gder | the mailing list is gone too |
| 20:19:14 | rasher | >< |
| 20:19:43 | rasher | I'm totally not digging those out from google |
| 20:20:28 | B4gder | I meant the addresses and so |
| 20:21:07 | rasher | Ah.. Now that's annoying |
| 20:21:23 | rasher | Although a backup-restore will fix most of that I guess? |
| 20:21:30 | B4gder | yes |
| 20:21:39 | rasher | and people will just have to re-subscribe |
| 20:21:42 | B4gder | and I found a log with all subscribe/remove since too |
| 20:21:47 | rasher | Nice |
| 20:23:33 | B4gder | bbl |
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| 20:24:53 | * | HCl learns perl on the fly and finishes his converter |
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| 20:33:56 | rasher | Okay, I have most of the wiki saved from google |
| 20:34:04 | LinusN | saw that, good work |
| 20:37:42 | rasher | rasher.dk/rockbox/WikiRescue/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/WikiRescue/ |
| 20:38:40 | rasher | That's all pages that have been modified since August 6th |
| 20:38:47 | rasher | (except userpages) |
| 20:39:38 | LinusN | wow |
| 20:40:18 | LinusN | good work indeed |
| 20:40:35 | rasher | So the contents are mostly saved |
| 20:40:56 | rasher | rewriting in wikisyntax is going to be a bitch |
| 20:41:13 | LinusN | yup |
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| 20:41:30 | Sucka | :' |
| 20:41:34 | Sucka | :/ |
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| 20:41:47 | rasher | Google and MSN isn't very interested in caching the "raw" versions of the pages |
| 20:41:54 | bbz | rasher: <3 |
| 20:41:54 | fuzzie | rasher: i could help.. when's the wiki backup going up? |
| 20:41:55 | arp | so someone really deleted the whole wiki |
| 20:42:01 | arp | and there were no backups? |
| 20:42:09 | fuzzie | arp: old backups |
| 20:42:12 | LinusN | the backup is old |
| 20:42:23 | rasher | bbz: godday |
| 20:42:23 | arp | did you get the IP of the bastard? |
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| 20:42:29 | LinusN | yes |
| 20:42:33 | bbz | rasher: Come back, we miss you. |
| 20:43:16 | Jefe | where can I get a RVFmux filter? |
| 20:43:20 | LinusN | the backup will hopefully be restored this weekend, but don't count on it |
| 20:43:25 | HCl | whyyy aren't i getting an error |
| 20:43:30 | HCl | i should be getting an error |
| 20:43:32 | Slasheri | Hmm, how large is the whole wiki? I think we could backup it somewhere in the network in future |
| 20:43:50 | LinusN | Slasheri: we have a very good backup system |
| 20:44:06 | Slasheri | LinusN: ah, that's good to hear. Hopefully they will work soon again |
| 20:44:28 | LinusN | yes, it's a pity that it wasn't working when this happened |
| 20:45:11 | LinusN | rockbox is running on a non-mission-critical server, so we haven't worked that hard to get it working |
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| 20:45:45 | rasher | Rockbox isn't mission-critical?! |
| 20:45:49 | LinusN | not for us |
| 20:45:51 | Slasheri | how about a simple rsync script that would mirror the wiki etc. or even the whole hard disk of that server somewhere? Should be quite easy to set up |
| 20:45:57 | rasher | I kid |
| 20:46:25 | LinusN | Slasheri: that is pretty much how our backup works |
| 20:46:57 | Slasheri | hmm, ok |
| 20:47:20 | LinusN | we use amanda |
| 20:47:46 | Slasheri | ah, then the backups should be quite good when the system is working |
| 20:47:53 | LinusN | yes |
| 20:47:56 | arp | most things are good when they work :) |
| 20:48:00 | Slasheri | :D |
| 20:48:02 | arp | most things arent so good when they dont work :( |
| 20:48:03 | LinusN | arp: true true |
| 20:48:10 | arp | speaking of working |
| 20:48:17 | arp | does rockbox work on the iriver h10? |
| 20:48:21 | LinusN | no |
| 20:48:23 | arp | okay |
| 20:49:30 | LinusN | man don'r ask such stupid questions! search the wiki goddammit! ...eeeh...wait a minute... :-) |
| 20:50:21 | LinusN | gotta go again |
| 20:50:25 | LinusN | l8rs |
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| 20:50:35 | arp | :) |
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| 20:54:51 | webguest21 | Hi, who delet the WIKI? |
| 20:55:02 | rasher | Some russian guy. |
| 20:55:04 | fuzzie | some random .ru guy |
| 20:55:14 | rasher | It'll be back eventually |
| 20:55:34 | rasher | There's a backup from a month ago, and most pages have been found in the google cache |
| 20:57:13 | fuzzie | i'm basically assuming most of the pages will just need simple edits |
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| 20:57:23 | fuzzie | rather than rewriting chunks in wiki syntax |
| 20:57:31 | rasher | Oh yes |
| 20:57:32 | fuzzie | so it doesn't sound very difficult to do, once the backups are up |
| 20:57:33 | rasher | of course |
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| 21:18:53 | webguest93 | Re folks! |
| 21:19:13 | webguest93 | rasher: I'm back |
| 21:19:24 | rasher | Evening |
| 21:19:31 | webguest93 | hi |
| 21:19:48 | webguest93 | it was about snap bold font |
| 21:20:23 | webguest93 | you remenber? |
| 21:20:45 | rasher | Yeah |
| 21:21:14 | webguest93 | did you find few minutes for it please? |
| 21:21:22 | rasher | not yet |
| 21:21:35 | webguest93 | ok |
| 21:24:46 | webguest93 | I stay here if you find a bit of time |
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| 21:52:50 | ]RowaN[ | hmm that Touch program lets u set time/dates for a file, but it has no function to copy time/date from one file to another |
| 21:53:12 | bbz | It does. |
| 21:53:38 | bbz | A simple touch −−help reveals that -r uses another file as reference. |
| 21:53:44 | bbz | HTH, HAND. |
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| 22:08:17 | ]RowaN[ | thanks bbz |
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| 22:46:49 | HCl | why did i ever remove perl.exe from my iriver |
| 22:47:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because you're a wee bit loco? |
| 22:47:57 | HCl | loco? |
| 22:48:54 | Bagder | spanish |
| 22:48:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | "crazy" |
| 22:49:02 | HCl | oh. |
| 22:49:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sorry |
| 22:50:09 | HCl | its fine :p |
| 22:58:41 | webguest93 | rasher: are you free? |
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| 23:14:22 | amiconn | Merf. |
| 23:22:33 | rasher | webguest93: I probably won't look at it today afterall.. it's a bit more work than I thought |
| 23:23:13 | webguest93 | o.o ok |
| 23:23:20 | webguest93 | thanks so |
| 23:23:54 | webguest93 | maybe can I do it myself, no? |
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| 23:24:26 | rasher | Sure, go ahead. As I said, I can't help you much, because I don't know how to get a working font editor in Windows |
| 23:24:35 | amiconn | Ah, at least the old docs/ folder is still there |
| 23:25:15 | rasher | I don't think that much has been lost, assuming the backup will restore nicely |
| 23:25:32 | webguest93 | rasher: ok I will wait for you if you'll can a bit of time for do it on other day |
| 23:25:52 | webguest93 | if is still planed |
| 23:26:09 | rasher | I will probably do it some day |
| 23:26:32 | webguest93 | I hope soon B-) |
| 23:27:21 | webguest93 | good night to all |
| 23:27:33 | webguest93 | rasher: thanks |
| 23:27:39 | rasher | Night. |
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| 23:28:14 | rasher | amiconn: google has pretty much every page in an up-to-date version in cache |
| 23:28:32 | amiconn | Including file attachments? |
| 23:28:47 | rasher | Not file attachments, no |
| 23:28:50 | amiconn | I needed the recorder schematics |
| 23:29:02 | rasher | It has pdfs |
| 23:29:16 | rasher | (as html) |
| 23:29:31 | amiconn | urgs |
| 23:30:21 | rasher | Yup |
| 23:30:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | So... um... what happened? |
| 23:31:00 | amiconn | I still wonder why there is no current backup. |
| 23:31:10 | | Part ]RowaN[ |
| 23:31:11 | rasher | Someone deleted lots of crap from the server, notably all of the wiki |
| 23:31:15 | rasher | Using a twiki exploit |
| 23:31:23 | amiconn | At work we backup almost all servers |
| 23:31:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 23:31:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, it was malicious? |
| 23:31:41 | amiconn | Data daily, systems weekly |
| 23:31:46 | Bagder | amiconn: because this is a "play server" |
| 23:31:51 | Bagder | and we do backup |
| 23:32:04 | rasher | Paul_The_Nerd: Indeedly |
| 23:32:05 | Bagder | its just that it has been malfunctioning for a few weeks |
| 23:32:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ugh. |
| 23:32:28 | Bagder | it was a rm / |
| 23:32:32 | Bagder | very much on purpose |
| 23:32:49 | amiconn | Bagder: I know, and that's what I don't understand. |
| 23:32:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | D'you have enough to find out who? |
| 23:33:03 | rasher | It was some Russian ip |
| 23:33:06 | Bagder | amiconn: what's so hard to understand? |
| 23:33:07 | rasher | not much to go by |
| 23:33:09 | Moos | badluck |
| 23:33:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 23:33:16 | amiconn | If a backup system isn't working properly, there's always the option to do a file backup to another system |
| 23:33:22 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:33:24 | Bagder | sure |
| 23:33:28 | amiconn | Even if that other system is just a plain workstation |
| 23:33:28 | Bagder | but days are 24 hours |
| 23:33:45 | amiconn | Those things can be automated |
| 23:33:51 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:33:52 | Bagder | they are |
| 23:33:59 | Bagder | they were just broken |
| 23:34:11 | Bagder | that _never_ happened to you? |
| 23:34:36 | Moos | yes apear is it the badluck cause and th russian too |
| 23:34:38 | amiconn | Yes it did. I have my share of experiences with failing systems |
| 23:35:02 | amiconn | (for all kinds of reason - user error, software failure, hardware failure) |
| 23:35:13 | Bagder | at times you think "oh what the heck, we fix that later" |
| 23:35:19 | | Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]") |
| 23:35:20 | amiconn | That's why I'm almost paranoid about backups |
| 23:36:15 | amiconn | In windows, setting up a file backup to another machine is just like 5 minutes of clicking |
| 23:36:24 | Bagder | well |
| 23:36:30 | amiconn | (automated backup, of course) |
| 23:36:30 | Bagder | not quite |
| 23:36:43 | Bagder | you draw conclusions |
| 23:36:58 | Bagder | it would need access to another machine |
| 23:37:14 | amiconn | yes of course |
| 23:37:17 | Bagder | thus, firewall fiddling/access editing |
| 23:37:30 | Bagder | besides |
| 23:37:40 | Bagder | ah, nevermind |
| 23:37:44 | Bagder | I won't get into this |
| 23:38:08 | rasher | So any idea of when the backup will be restored? |
| 23:38:38 | Bagder | not really, but hopefully no later than monday |
| 23:39:03 | rasher | okay |
| 23:39:18 | Bagder | this affects other projects as well, so it hurts all over |
| 23:39:30 | Bagder | I mean, on the same server |
| 23:39:36 | rasher | What else is hosted there? |
| 23:40:11 | Bagder | various things, but what got hit now is at least the mailing lists for curl and c-ares |
| 23:40:25 | rasher | oops |
| 23:41:24 | bbz | Does amiconn always blame his incompetence on a perceived Linux shortcoming or what? |
| 23:41:42 | amiconn | ??? |
| 23:42:50 | fuzzie | your ranting about backups |
| 23:42:58 | bbz | Why bring Windows into it? |
| 23:43:07 | amiconn | This was just an example |
| 23:43:18 | amiconn | Has nothing to do with windows vs. Linus |
| 23:43:23 | amiconn | *Linux |
| 23:44:31 | bbz | Why am I in here, anyway? |
| 23:44:33 | | Quit bbz ("leaving") |
| 23:45:00 | Moos | ??? |
| 23:55:02 | linuxstb | The date in the news item on the front page is a month in the future. If only we had had a month's notice :) |
| 23:55:17 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:55:24 | linuxstb | Wishful thinking? |
| 23:56:37 | rasher | Bagder: if you're fixing that, it might also be of interest to note that the mailing list is dead as well |
| 23:57:20 | Bagder | done |
| 23:57:57 | amiconn | This security hole seems to be known for a year according to twiki.org ... |
| 23:58:24 | amiconn | :( |
| 23:58:31 | Bagder | ! |
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