00:00:20 | amiconn | XavierGr: I've bumped the max. .lng size to 8000 bytes now |
00:01:09 | XavierGr | ok then it's a solution for now, though greek language should pass this on seme entries. |
00:01:28 | XavierGr | 103 bytes left |
00:01:40 | XavierGr | a little more with the removal of deprecated strings |
00:02:01 | amiconn | 226 bytes |
00:03:07 | XavierGr | 226 characters so be it, it would be 10 entries at least. |
00:03:35 | XavierGr | why not remove the deprecated entries completed (even in english.lng)? |
00:03:52 | XavierGr | completed = completly |
00:03:55 | amiconn | It would shift the IDs of all subsequent strings |
00:04:15 | XavierGr | argggg tough! |
00:04:22 | XavierGr | maybe with a script? |
00:04:29 | amiconn | This would cause a complete messup when someone loads a .lng file from a different build |
00:04:35 | _FireFly_ | a simple reload of the lang-file on the device should solve this |
00:04:41 | _FireFly_ | ok |
00:05:07 | amiconn | A deprecated string takes 1 byte in the file |
00:05:15 | amiconn | (the trailing \0) |
00:05:55 | XavierGr | oh I though that the size matters not only the strings but the data of the headers and stuff. |
00:06:38 | XavierGr | ah yes you are right you do not include the headers such as voice: new: e.t.c |
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00:07:00 | amiconn | Check tools/binlang |
00:07:06 | XavierGr | then make that 20 entries |
00:07:34 | amiconn | .lng files are incredibly simple, a magic byte, a version byte, then all strings as C strings, one after the others |
00:08:23 | amiconn | Yes, then we 'wasted' 20 bytes |
00:08:28 | XavierGr | and why it has to be a size limit? if it involves a loop to load strings why not load the filesize into code? |
00:08:59 | XavierGr | Though I do not know how loading the lang file is working, just assuming |
00:09:03 | amiconn | There is no dynamic memory allocation, you should know... |
00:09:32 | XavierGr | ah yes you are right |
00:09:41 | XavierGr | I keep bumping in this. |
00:10:01 | amiconn | If the number of deprecated entries grows too large, we can throws them all out, but then we have to bump the .lng version byte |
00:10:18 | amiconn | I'd prefer to wait with that until l10n v2 |
00:10:43 | XavierGr | ok then |
00:11:52 | XavierGr | what do you think for the virtual keyboard does it worth to commit it, its a couple of ifdefs, though I haven't finished it yet, but I will complete it for my pleasure. |
00:20:52 | amiconn | Ah, finally found the problem why demystify.rock crashed the windows sim :) |
00:21:16 | amiconn | Obviously cygwin doesn't like it when a dll function is called main(). |
00:24:48 | XavierGr | you guys "rock" your code is the most versatile. Managed to change the keyboard layout with just 2 ifdefs. 1 for KEYBOARD_LINES, KEYBOARD_PAGES and 2 for the structure that holds all the characters to input. Great work! |
00:25:49 | amiconn | Well, if there's only one page, the page flipping can be #ifdefed out as well |
00:26:41 | XavierGr | there is no reason to. I think (in the test I made in the sim) that if you press the A-B button it will just do nothing. |
00:26:43 | * | amiconn feels like the master of plugins today ;) |
00:27:15 | XavierGr | LOL |
00:27:35 | XavierGr | what's demestify for? |
00:27:55 | amiconn | Do you know the WIndows screensaver 'mystify'? |
00:28:26 | Moos | amiconn: yes congratulations for plugins |
00:29:05 | amiconn | XavierGr: Yes I know that it does nothing, but then it's dead code for H1x0 |
00:29:14 | Moos | any chances to commit TiMiD works? :-P |
00:30:10 | XavierGr | amiconn:1) Yeah I forgot about that Windows screen saver, 2) Then I should add a third #ifdef (or more like #Ifndef) |
00:32:44 | XavierGr | oh wrong it is #if(CONFIG_KEYPAD == target) so I will not need #ifdefs but just #ifs |
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00:34:46 | amiconn | XavierGr: You can just remove the #define KBD_PAGE_FLIP for iriver as the first step |
00:35:52 | amiconn | Then you need to modify the two lines reading #ifndef KBD_PAGE_FLIP nw. Note: there is also an #ifdef KBD_PAGE_FLIP, that doesn't need to be touched |
00:36:04 | amiconn | Replace #ifndef KBD_PAGE_FLIP |
00:36:06 | amiconn | with |
00:36:27 | XavierGr | you got me, what an idiot, I just didn't knew what this def does and let it there |
00:36:39 | amiconn | #if !defined(KBD_PAGE_FLIP) && KEYBOARD_PAGES > 1 |
00:36:44 | amiconn | and you're done |
00:37:38 | amiconn | That line means, the flip-on-wrap will be compiled in only if KBD_PAGE_FLIP isn't defined, *and* there is more than one page - which isn't true any more with your change |
00:38:10 | amiconn | No need for an additional explicit keyboard type check |
00:38:11 | XavierGr | yep I got it, thanks |
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00:39:54 | XavierGr | do you remember all these stuff, or did you opened the keyboard.c? |
00:41:58 | Link9064 | is a hard drive replacement for an FM Recorder 20 the same as the others as far as teh tutorials go? |
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00:44:09 | amiconn | XavierGr: I did open keyboard.c, and it was helpful that I once rewrote that stuff... |
00:46:14 | amiconn | Link9064: http://www.angelfire.com/trek/archos/ has disassembly instructions for the jukebox multimedia whch are also valid for fm and v2 recorders |
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00:48:24 | Link9064 | k, thanks, and is there any max capacity as far as teh harddrive goes? |
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00:48:33 | Link9064 | I'm planning on putting an 80gb in it |
00:48:56 | amiconn | The limit is 128 GB (136 GB in terms of hard disk manufacturers) |
00:49:33 | amiconn | 80 GB works fine, I have that in my recorder v1 :) |
00:49:51 | Moos | oh my god :P |
00:50:09 | Link9064 | k, thanks |
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00:53:42 | XavierGr | 80gb!!!!? |
00:54:00 | XavierGr | and I thought I had a big DAP, I have stuffed a 60GB there |
00:54:08 | Moos | 136 gb!!! :D |
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00:54:20 | XavierGr | does archos takes 2.5 inches hard disks? |
00:54:24 | amiconn | yes |
00:55:19 | bagawk | Height matter also |
00:55:29 | bagawk | 9.5mm was it? |
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00:56:05 | amiconn | bagawk: Not really important nowadays. All current 2.5" drives are 9.5 mm |
00:56:29 | amiconn | Some really old ones were 12.7 mm (1/2") |
00:56:31 | noc_ | how long would the batt last though? |
00:57:01 | amiconn | That depends more on the drive type than on the capacity |
00:57:19 | amiconn | Drives with >4200 rpm are therefore not recommended |
00:57:57 | Moos | "Playing a playlist with no valid entries (or no entries at all) should be |
00:57:57 | Moos | properly handled now. Please revert this commit if it breaks something." ??? |
00:58:01 | XavierGr | amiconn: which DAP do you use usually? iRiver or Archos? |
00:58:23 | amiconn | archos |
00:58:30 | Moos | wasn't debate about this commit? |
00:58:44 | XavierGr | amiconn: any reason for it? |
00:58:51 | ryan_j | Moos: rockbox wasn't stopping playback properly when playing empty playlists. |
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00:59:09 | Moos | yes i know :-) |
00:59:13 | ryan_j | Or ones with no valid entries. |
00:59:32 | amiconn | XavierGr: Yes. More reliable, and either more capacity (recorder v1) or smaller, noiseless and shock-resistant (Ondio) |
00:59:44 | ryan_j | It bit me a couple of times, so I "fixed" it. If it causes problems we can remove it |
00:59:51 | Moos | ryan_j: but the fixing was debate here by Lear... |
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01:00:01 | ryan_j | I must have missed that. |
01:00:11 | Moos | just wondering :-) |
01:00:16 | amiconn | Plus, my H140 harddrive is a bit noise since I dropped the player once |
01:00:26 | ryan_j | No problem :-) |
01:00:40 | Moos | ryan_j check the logs ;-) |
01:00:45 | ryan_j | Which day? |
01:01:01 | Moos | don't remenber, sorry, check google |
01:01:49 | Moos | debate betwen Lear, Slasheri and maybe amiconn :) |
01:02:19 | * | ryan_j checks through logs |
01:03:45 | ryan_j | I can't find it :-( |
01:03:55 | ryan_j | Removing it's no problem though. |
01:04:04 | ryan_j | s/it's/it is/ |
01:04:11 | Moos | isn't dramatical :-) |
01:04:13 | amiconn | XavierGr: You did the wrong thing with the KBD_PAGE_FLIP... |
01:05:17 | amiconn | You need to change the two occurences of #ifndef KBD_PAGE_FLIP, *not* the one occurence of #ifdef KBD_PAGE_FLIP |
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01:06:06 | ryan_j | Moos: I found it. Reading it now... |
01:06:19 | Moos | hehe :) |
01:08:58 | ryan_j | Moos: Ah. Well, my fix is rather trivial and shouldn't get in the way of Slasheri's fix when it gets committed. |
01:09:22 | Moos | yes just in waiting :-) |
01:11:43 | ryan_j | It just stops playback if the playlist has 0 entries, which happens if the file was empty or all entries were invalid (and therefore deleted). |
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01:17:39 | XavierGr | amiconn: I need to change 2 ifndefs? |
01:18:37 | XavierGr | but there are many #ifndef KBD_FLIP_PAGE! |
01:18:40 | XavierGr | not just 2 |
01:20:14 | amiconn | I only see two. Lines 238 and 266 in unpatched keyboard.c |
01:20:45 | XavierGr | my bad I was seeing KBD_MODE |
01:21:57 | XavierGr | so change 2 #ifndef KBD_PAGE_FLIPs with #if !defined(KBD_PAGE_FLIP) && KEYBOARD_PAGES > 1 ? |
01:22:31 | XavierGr | and revert the #ifdef KBD_PAGE_FLIP? |
01:23:47 | XavierGr | are you sure I see no reason for this. |
01:23:56 | XavierGr | why change the ifndef? |
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01:24:20 | XavierGr | oh i see why |
01:24:34 | XavierGr | it will run ondio code if I don't |
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01:28:58 | XavierGr | ok I got it heres how I made it: |
01:29:26 | XavierGr | the #ifdef KBD_PAGE_FLIP becomes #if defined(KBD_PAGE_FLIP) && KEYBOARD_PAGES > 1 |
01:30:12 | XavierGr | and the other 2 #ifndef KBD_PAGE_FLIP will become #if !defined(KBD_PAGE_FLIP) && KEYBOARD_PAGES > 1 |
01:30:17 | XavierGr | right? |
01:32:14 | amiconn | yes |
01:32:22 | amiconn | I had some more ideas |
01:32:36 | XavierGr | yes you was right or else ondio code could run on iriver. |
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01:33:05 | amiconn | Just leave KBD_PAGE_FLIP defined for H1x0, it doesn't hurt with the #ifdef / # ifndef changes discussed... |
01:33:20 | XavierGr | ok then I will add it. |
01:33:45 | amiconn | ...but it allows to get the logic right, as the ability to show all characters in one page does *not* depend on the keypad... |
01:33:55 | amiconn | ...but rather on the LCD resolution |
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01:36:36 | XavierGr | ok patch updated on sourceforge, If you feel right for it then commit, else I will use it for my pleasure... :P |
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01:49:36 | XavierGr | lol I have just updated my patch 5 times in a row |
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02:20:23 | muesli- | re |
02:21:51 | XavierGr | re |
02:22:12 | muesli- | ;) |
02:22:21 | muesli- | who is mika btw? |
02:22:33 | muesli- | i |
02:22:36 | muesli- | i |
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02:22:38 | muesli- | i |
02:22:48 | muesli- | damn... |
02:22:56 | XavierGr | mika? |
02:23:03 | muesli- | miika |
02:23:08 | muesli- | yepp |
02:23:34 | XavierGr | miika pekarinen? I thought it was Slasheri. |
02:25:21 | muesli- | mk :) |
02:25:44 | muesli- | good pita XavierGr anyway ;) |
02:26:22 | XavierGr | Thanks, but I got a little confused. |
02:27:03 | muesli- | how comes to that? |
02:29:47 | XavierGr | Your name is Miika? |
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02:31:43 | muesli- | not really ;) |
02:32:01 | XavierGr | then whats was |
02:32:03 | XavierGr | i |
02:32:03 | XavierGr | i |
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02:32:03 | XavierGr | i |
02:32:06 | XavierGr | for? |
02:33:41 | muesli- | i've tried to write +i to add an i for mika |
02:33:41 | pengo | oo.. disk cache. |
02:34:05 | muesli- | but didnt notice that it wouldnt work |
02:34:10 | XavierGr | Ahhh! |
02:34:20 | muesli- | (got to much drinks :D ) |
02:34:31 | XavierGr | yeah I heard you cant write it on the site's client |
02:34:39 | XavierGr | well then all I knew was true |
02:35:57 | muesli- | got a hiccough..an somebody write a patch for me :) |
02:36:01 | muesli- | can |
02:36:46 | XavierGr | what sort of patch? |
02:37:07 | muesli- | to sort out my hiccough ;) |
02:37:25 | XavierGr | what's that? |
02:38:06 | pengo | a patch that makes it appear the firmware is corrupt and unbootable should do it |
02:39:41 | XavierGr | excuse me? |
02:39:57 | XavierGr | I surely can't do that. |
02:43:00 | muesli- | whatever.. |
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02:43:10 | muesli- | hope 2 find my way to my bed |
02:43:23 | muesli- | g'night folks |
02:43:34 | XavierGr | well check this out before you sleep: |
02:43:53 | XavierGr | http://www.misticriver.net/photos/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=11302&pos=0 |
02:44:10 | XavierGr | nothing major jsut made my life a little easier! |
02:45:17 | muesli- | it increases the amount of chars? |
02:45:48 | XavierGr | It justs renders all chars in one screen instead of having to press a-b button. |
02:45:59 | XavierGr | (and cycle pages) |
02:46:01 | muesli- | very kewl! |
02:46:09 | XavierGr | well I should hit the sack too, time to go to bed! |
02:46:22 | muesli- | add it to cvs |
02:46:33 | muesli- | i will love it |
02:46:34 | XavierGr | I don't have a cvs access :( |
02:46:42 | muesli- | why not m9? |
02:46:45 | muesli- | m8? |
02:46:59 | XavierGr | lol well I am not so experianced yet. |
02:47:09 | XavierGr | I guess it is a responsibility after all. |
02:47:34 | muesli- | :-/ |
02:47:38 | muesli- | pitty... |
02:48:03 | muesli- | will talk 2 u about that l8er... |
02:48:17 | muesli- | am seriously tired... |
02:48:21 | XavierGr | ok bye and good night! |
02:48:22 | muesli- | g'night |
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03:30:22 | ryan_j | Does anyone here know much about the x11 simulator? |
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10:56:27 | Slasheri | Lear: on bus right now ;) |
10:56:35 | Slasheri | little away today.. |
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11:10:08 | amiconn | Lear: The problem you mentioned on the ml... |
11:14:03 | amiconn | ...I've read somewhere (dunno remember where) that someone got all files listed twice, with .talk files presnt. Sounds like you spotted the cause... |
11:15:25 | Lear | Now that you mention it, yes, I read that too... Mailing list or on the forum, and recently (yesterday or today)... |
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11:16:26 | amiconn | This is the kind of non-obvious bugs related to dir caching... :/ |
11:21:22 | Lear | Btw, I've read that very large values on the max files in dir setting can cause problems. Does anyone know something more about it? :) |
11:22:18 | Xavier|Away | amiconn: Thanks for the commit on the virtual keyboard! :D |
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11:23:56 | amiconn | Lear: I've read that too numerous times, but I don't know what happens there |
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11:25:08 | amiconn | I don't have such large dirs. I've set it to 500 (even less on Ondio) |
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11:32:25 | Xavier|Away | I have set it to 1000 just for one folder that has 800 pictures (for the JPEG file scrolling) |
11:32:43 | Xavier|Away | No problems if set to 1000 though. |
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11:35:07 | amiconn | Lear: From what I remember about the bug reports, it almost looks like a datatype overflow problem, but I can't find any. |
11:36:34 | amiconn | Iirc reports say it happens somewhere above 5000, and MAX_USHORT / sizeof(struct entry) would be 5461 (referring to tree.h: struct entry, which uses 12 bytes) |
11:39:51 | Lear | But where would that short be... I looked a little for things like that, but... |
11:41:11 | amiconn | yes, I didn't spot one either... |
11:41:58 | amiconn | Definitely a thing that deserves systematic testing |
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11:55:19 | XavierGr | wow cool I just learned why Bagder spells his nick as B4gder!! Wikipedia is awesome! |
11:57:04 | amiconn | ? |
11:58:20 | XavierGr | well in Leetspeak (an interenet slang) people change normal letter with other characters to make more difficult for the new users to read. |
11:58:39 | XavierGr | So 4 usually stands for A or 3 for e. |
11:59:00 | amiconn | Ah, that you mean |
11:59:10 | XavierGr | Leetspeak == (e)-leetspeak |
11:59:13 | amiconn | Well, he just uses it as an alternative |
11:59:31 | XavierGr | so that means that Bagder is an elitist... :P |
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12:00:18 | HCl | heh. |
12:00:45 | XavierGr | and I just learned what iirc stands for. Man that was annoying, every time I encountered it I didn't know what it means, and I was bored to look for, until now! |
12:01:52 | Lear | There are lots of those, like "lol" or "afaik".... |
12:02:21 | amiconn | One of my favourites is tnx6e |
12:03:37 | XavierGr | yes but I did know what iirc means, (I ask usually, I didn't expect for a wiki to have that sort of information) |
12:03:44 | XavierGr | tnx6e? |
12:05:14 | ashridah | t'anx sex-e |
12:05:17 | ashridah | depends on your accent |
12:06:28 | XavierGr | like thanks sexy? I don't get it... |
12:06:45 | ashridah | tnx = thanks. 6=sex. e=y |
12:07:32 | XavierGr | I found an internet slung database.... oh boy some abreviations are hard to remember.... 404 stands for I couldn't find it!!!! :X |
12:07:34 | ashridah | like m8, gr8 and other assorted braindead letter/subphrase substitutions that are only marginally phoenetically correct |
12:07:53 | ashridah | there's the jargon files. |
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12:08:27 | amiconn | tnxe6 == thanks a million (1e6 == exponential notation of 10^6 == one million) |
12:09:13 | ashridah | aah |
12:09:17 | ashridah | sneaky |
12:09:31 | ashridah | should have a capital E |
12:09:31 | webguest01 | tnxe6 for directory caching... i never thought my iriver would do browsing so well while playing |
12:09:31 | Nibbler | lol |
12:09:35 | webguest01 | absolutely lovely |
12:09:41 | XavierGr | and as the wikipedia says roflmfao!!! |
12:10:16 | webguest01 | mfao? |
12:10:35 | XavierGr | my fucking ass off :P |
12:10:38 | Nibbler | my friendly ass off |
12:10:47 | XavierGr | yes more politely |
12:10:50 | webguest01 | oh |
12:11:54 | XavierGr | we use Greeklish as slang in my country. |
12:12:24 | XavierGr | We write Greek with Latin characters (only) instead of the normal Greek alphabet. |
12:13:10 | XavierGr | but is often not wanted in forums, and I agree on that because sometimes it gets very difficult to read. |
12:15:33 | webguest01 | hm... i still prefer rotflolmao, you can actually say that with your mouth:D |
12:17:15 | XavierGr | yes if you cut it right rotfl-olmao! |
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12:25:06 | webguest54 | for those interested in sudoku, http://www.websudoku.com/?level=3 |
12:25:16 | webguest54 | the evil ones are just that |
12:25:54 | Febs | Good morning, folks. |
12:26:20 | Febs | I tried the recording function last night for the first time in Rockbox on my iriver, and have a question. |
12:26:44 | Febs | The recording screen says to press menu right to toggle monitor. Is this mapped to anything on the iriver? |
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12:39:37 | _FireFly_ | Febs did you try to press the "joystick" to the right ?? :) |
12:41:30 | _FireFly_ | oh RMT stands for remote :) |
12:42:30 | _FireFly_ | try to press menu-button on the remote |
12:44:31 | amiconn | Febs: Recording monitor toggle is menu on the remote |
12:44:39 | _FireFly_ | :) |
12:44:46 | amiconn | apps/pcm_recording.c line 190 |
12:45:36 | _FireFly_ | whats about the problem that after a recording playback doesn't work probably |
12:45:41 | _FireFly_ | no sound |
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13:11:47 | Febs | Thanks, amiconn. I tried all other button combinations that I could think of, but I did not have my remote with me to try that. |
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13:33:42 | lamed | where do I ask someone to scroll back a change when it's bad? |
13:35:00 | lamed | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/credits.c?rev=1.2&view=log |
13:35:00 | lamed | credit sinewave |
13:35:16 | lamed | (ex.) |
13:35:20 | lamed | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/credits.c?rev=1.2&view=log |
13:35:20 | lamed | credit sinewave |
13:35:30 | lamed | bahh |
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13:46:53 | leachbj | hey does anyone have a copy of the HD66789R datasheet? The link on the wiki seems dead... |
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14:45:52 | _FireFly_ | i have found a bug in conjuction with the change of the viewers.config syntax to add now also the dir in which the plugin is |
14:47:08 | _FireFly_ | if i want to see e.g. a m3u-file with the viewers plugin the plugin-loader says that he can't open .rockbox/viewers/viewers/viewer.rock :) |
14:47:53 | _FireFly_ | after changing the #define VIEWERS_DIR ROCKBOX_DIR "/viewers" to #define VIEWERS_DIR ROCKBOX_DIR |
14:47:58 | _FireFly_ | it works again |
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15:00:20 | muesli- | hihj |
15:00:22 | muesli- | g |
15:00:25 | muesli- | -j |
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15:03:18 | _FireFly_ | hi muesli |
15:03:32 | _FireFly_ | what is so funny :) |
15:03:47 | muesli- | me? dunno |
15:14:04 | amiconn | _FireFly_: Bah, the viewers.config change has in fact several bugs :( |
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15:22:19 | muesli- | _FireFly_ does dir caching works with your build now? |
15:22:32 | muesli- | -s |
15:23:39 | _FireFly_ | yepp my newest build based on cvs after dircache was submitted to cvs |
15:23:58 | muesli- | very kewl...fantastic stuff m8s :D |
15:24:20 | _FireFly_ | but it doesn't include the latest cvs changes |
15:24:26 | muesli- | i forgot my iriver at a friends place yesterday and cant test it right now :-/ |
15:25:39 | _FireFly_ | moep :) |
15:26:12 | muesli- | yeah...and i wont get it until tomorrow or even later :-(( |
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15:27:06 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: what additional bugs apart form that bug which i have mentioned |
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15:28:28 | amiconn | It lists the viewers twice in the 'open with' menu, once with relative path, once without |
15:28:39 | amiconn | This second part of the list isn't complete |
15:29:11 | _FireFly_ | with my change it lists it correct test it |
15:29:42 | amiconn | Yes, as the second part of the list generation (scan_plugins() ) doesn't work anymore if you change it like this |
15:29:53 | _FireFly_ | oh |
15:29:54 | TiMiD[dead] | oh no they broke my beautiful patch XD |
15:30:04 | _FireFly_ | only a simple change ;) |
15:30:12 | amiconn | I don't know what this is good for though, as I don't fully understand filetypes.c |
15:30:13 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD[dead]: |
15:30:41 | amiconn | ...otherwise I would try to fix it |
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15:33:53 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: maybe a seperate boolean option/parameter in viewers.config which indicates if relative path is included in this line or not |
15:34:40 | amiconn | Why? Relative path is always included now in viewers.confg |
15:34:58 | amiconn | ...but filetypes.c gets file types by 3 different methods: |
15:35:10 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: it was only a idea |
15:35:22 | amiconn | (1) hard-coded (2) from viewers.config (3) by scanning the viewers directory |
15:35:31 | amiconn | I don't understand what (3) is for though |
15:35:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | It could be a leftover from something else? |
15:36:13 | _FireFly_ | maybe if someone has a viewerplugin which is not listet in viewers.config |
15:42:49 | _FireFly_ | but without ma change no plugins which are in listet in viewers.config can be loaded |
15:43:27 | _FireFly_ | because the loader adds two times following string: /viewers |
15:43:51 | XavierGr | muesli-: Blasphemer!!!! You forgot your iRiver? How dare you? |
15:44:16 | muesli- | well..enjoyed a pita ;) |
15:45:10 | muesli- | Patch #1316533 by Alexander Spyridakis was that your patch you posted last night? |
15:46:13 | XavierGr | yes and amiconn commited it today. :) |
15:46:22 | muesli- | cheers :D |
15:46:39 | muesli- | have to see it when i get my babe back |
15:47:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | _FireFly_: Without your patch, you can just prepend the string ../Plugins/ to any viewers that are in the Plugins directory. |
15:47:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oops. I mean without the original patch, not your patch. |
15:50:10 | _FireFly_ | i think either add a extra option to the viewers.config which indicates if the line has a relative path or not |
15:51:06 | _FireFly_ | or something else to determine that there is no need to add /viewers to the string before loading the plugin |
15:51:09 | amiconn | I think the correct solution is a rework of filetypes.c |
15:51:36 | TiMiD[dead] | Yesterday I made a mistake: when I submtted my remote patch to the tracker I wasn't logged in (I thought I was) |
15:51:43 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
15:51:45 | TiMiD[dead] | and now I can't update it |
15:51:49 | TiMiD[dead] | :-( |
15:52:03 | TiMiD[dead] | is it possible to remove it ? |
15:52:11 | amiconn | ...but I'd rather want to ask the original author about some things, and I would need to analyse it in-depth in order to understand it |
15:52:13 | TiMiD[dead] | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1315926 |
15:52:17 | Lear | Sure, a "patch admin" can... |
15:52:21 | amiconn | ...and I'm up to different things atm :/ |
15:52:51 | TiMiD[dead] | so what should I do ? |
15:52:52 | _FireFly_ | a quick 'n' dirty hack would be my change |
15:53:10 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD[dead]: create a new entry in the tracker |
15:53:13 | Lear | And I should be able to do it... |
15:53:18 | TiMiD[dead] | ok |
15:54:22 | XavierGr | TiMiD[dead]: did you ypdated your patch? |
15:54:37 | Lear | So I should close "Multi-screen support" then? |
15:55:29 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD has only add the possibility for Multi-screen support and had updated filetree to use it |
15:55:31 | _FireFly_ | afiak |
15:55:39 | _FireFly_ | the rest is not touched |
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15:57:02 | Marcus | Hello there |
15:57:22 | _FireFly_ | hi |
15:57:37 | Marcus | quick question about this multi-screen support |
15:57:43 | Marcus | patch :) |
15:58:06 | Marcus | can it be commitable? |
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15:58:32 | Marcus | when'll updated with dircache changes |
15:58:44 | _FireFly_ | it doesn't add complete remote-support if you want it mainly for that |
15:59:04 | TiMiD[dead] | it's updated with dircache |
15:59:06 | Marcus | not, but it could be one big step :) |
15:59:27 | TiMiD[dead] | but I have logis problems with sourceforge |
15:59:29 | _FireFly_ | currently my patch adds full remote-support except playlist-viewer debug-menu-entrys and plugins |
15:59:30 | TiMiD[dead] | :( |
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16:00:04 | Marcus | firefly: I didn't test it yet, I will |
16:00:39 | Marcus | Lear: what do you think about this multi-screen patch ? |
16:00:46 | _FireFly_ | a actual build can be found on home.arcor.de/s.wezel |
16:01:05 | _FireFly_ | the patch on the same place is outdated |
16:01:13 | Marcus | ok |
16:01:18 | Lear | Marcus: Don't ask me, I don't know anything about it... :) |
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16:01:29 | _FireFly_ | only the builds are actual except the newest cvs changes after ducache was added |
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16:01:36 | _FireFly_ | dircach |
16:01:44 | Marcus | Lear: ok, thanks |
16:01:44 | _FireFly_ | only the builds are actual except the newest cvs changes after dicache was added |
16:01:58 | TiMiD[dead] | dircache wasn't that hard to add :) |
16:02:06 | TiMiD[dead] | (I did it in 10min :p) |
16:02:11 | Marcus | this widgets concenpt would be great |
16:02:14 | TiMiD[dead] | only 5 or 6 lines to change :) |
16:02:38 | TiMiD[dead] | Marcus: it's not really a widget |
16:02:59 | TiMiD[dead] | you can't reorganize the screen as you want, you can't redim etc |
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16:03:25 | TiMiD[dead] | I didn't wanted to make smth too generic |
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16:03:37 | Marcus | Grrr, sorry stupid web client |
16:04:02 | Marcus | Timid: ok |
16:04:29 | TiMiD[dead] | if I had coded a full widget set, it would have been a lot more code |
16:04:49 | Marcus | yes indeed |
16:04:59 | Marcus | hard for you? |
16:05:20 | TiMiD[dead] | and deep modifications (for example make the scroll thread put its strings by pixels rather than by lines ...) |
16:05:37 | Marcus | oh yes |
16:05:39 | TiMiD[dead] | not hard, but time consumming :) |
16:05:46 | Marcus | :D |
16:06:19 | TiMiD[dead] | and I think this is sufficient for this kind of displays :) |
16:06:31 | TiMiD[dead] | (we don't want to have a window manager ^^) |
16:06:56 | Marcus | yes, me too, but I'm wondering why any core devloper isn't interested in |
16:07:57 | Marcus | Timid: did you do something wrong? |
16:08:00 | TiMiD[dead] | maybe because the patch is 150kb |
16:08:21 | Marcus | I don't think so |
16:08:53 | TiMiD[dead] | it tooks alot of time to read it ... |
16:09:10 | TiMiD[dead] | what do you mean by "something wrong" ? |
16:10:02 | Marcus | e.g : compiling errors, not multi platforms suported... |
16:10:23 | TiMiD[dead] | no |
16:10:38 | TiMiD[dead] | I can't test on all platforms of course :) |
16:10:46 | TiMiD[dead] | but I tested it with simulator |
16:10:47 | Marcus | maybe we could wait Linus for this |
16:11:11 | TiMiD[dead] | and it seemed to work even on the archos player :) |
16:11:13 | Marcus | is it probably the best dev. for this stuff :) |
16:11:32 | XavierGr | Linus will check it, when he finds time so...upadate it and resubmit it on the tracker. |
16:11:53 | TiMiD[dead] | well I won't get mad if it doesn't get submitted :) |
16:12:23 | TiMiD[dead] | but I think this coulld help to port other apps to multi screen more quickly |
16:12:27 | Marcus | I'm sure this patch could be commited in the Rockbox code |
16:12:51 | XavierGr | well we are going to be, remote support has been a very low priority for a long time, if your patch is good I don't see a reason why not commiting it. |
16:13:07 | Marcus | yes me too |
16:13:28 | TiMiD[dead] | one reason could be that at present it increases the compiled code size |
16:13:40 | TiMiD[dead] | because there are 2 systems used in // |
16:13:54 | Marcus | yes it is the basis concept |
16:14:09 | Marcus | :-) |
16:14:29 | TiMiD[dead] | hmm |
16:14:30 | XavierGr | but sooner or later this kind of thing must happen to rockbox, if we want to see it in other platforms except Archos... |
16:14:40 | Marcus | maybe isn't necessary for all platforms, I think to archos with low memory |
16:14:45 | TiMiD[dead] | it's only a temporary code increase |
16:15:07 | TiMiD[dead] | if all rb apps gets ported to this arch, the code size should decrease a lot |
16:15:22 | Marcus | yeah indeed |
16:15:52 | XavierGr | there aren't many alternatives so I think that it may be commited... |
16:15:52 | TiMiD[dead] | (for example menus and file tree couls use the same list) |
16:16:16 | XavierGr | We can't say anything until an exprerianced dev check this. |
16:16:38 | Marcus | amiconn, Slasheri : any ideas about it? |
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16:17:26 | muesli- | l8er m8s |
16:17:55 | TiMiD[dead] | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1318081&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
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16:17:59 | TiMiD[dead] | et voila :) |
16:19:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Your "description" is going to confuse a lot of clueless folk from the US. |
16:19:50 | TiMiD[dead] | why ? it's not correct englis at all? |
16:19:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, the 08/10/2005 |
16:20:02 | TiMiD[dead] | :) |
16:20:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | We do our dates a very silly way over here. |
16:20:42 | TiMiD[dead] | I know, I have an american watch and I get confuse each time I read the date ^^ |
16:20:53 | _FireFly_ | year/month/day afaik ;) |
16:21:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
16:21:24 | XavierGr | why read the date from the year? |
16:21:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, are you going to work on getting another system working with the multi-screen next? |
16:21:57 | XavierGr | first must be the day (that changes often) then month and year last. |
16:22:12 | TiMiD[dead] | done :) |
16:22:32 | TiMiD[dead] | Paul_The_Nerd: I want to know if it's commited first |
16:22:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
16:22:47 | TiMiD[dead] | then the next will be menus |
16:22:53 | TiMiD[dead] | and playlist |
16:22:55 | Marcus | time to go good day all |
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16:24:13 | Moos | Salut TiMiD, french date :D |
16:24:33 | TiMiD[dead] | not anymore :) |
16:24:47 | XavierGr | which way is the French date? |
16:24:54 | XavierGr | 10/08/2005? |
16:24:59 | TiMiD[dead] | today is 08/10/2005 |
16:25:10 | XavierGr | or 08/10/2005? |
16:25:13 | TiMiD[dead] | DD/MM/YYYY |
16:25:22 | XavierGr | yeah I agree, you are the man!!! |
16:25:26 | Moos | :-) |
16:25:33 | TiMiD[dead] | ^^ |
16:25:50 | TiMiD[dead] | the most logical would be YYYY/MM/DD |
16:25:57 | TiMiD[dead] | since Y is more important |
16:26:06 | XavierGr | now I don't think this is the most logical |
16:26:16 | TiMiD[dead] | but I don't know if it used anywhere |
16:26:17 | Moos | it's depand |
16:26:17 | XavierGr | in every day life it isn't |
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16:26:27 | XavierGr | only in history :) |
16:26:33 | XavierGr | Rockbox is set that way. |
16:26:38 | Moos | :D |
16:26:39 | XavierGr | power up and see the firmware version |
16:26:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I like year-first dating too. |
16:26:52 | TiMiD[dead] | the most logical is the number of seconds elapsed since the creation of the universe :p |
16:26:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Seconds? |
16:27:00 | Moos | hehe :) |
16:27:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not precise enough |
16:27:59 | XavierGr | anyway both year first or day first dates are logical, I just dont get why stuck the day in the middle...? |
16:28:02 | TiMiD[dead] | number of rotations of an lelectron around an hydrogen atom at degree |
16:28:13 | TiMiD[dead] | 0°C |
16:28:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because we tend to say it "January first, 2006" instead of "The first of january, 2006" so the date lines up with how we say it. (We being, at least, many people in the US) |
16:29:59 | TiMiD[dead] | bouhhh launch thme stones ! |
16:30:03 | XavierGr | well I know what you say but this seems a little illogical too. anyway customs and metrics are strange in some parts of the world. |
16:30:27 | XavierGr | The best thing is to gather all and agree on a standart, in everything!! |
16:30:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but that'll never happen. |
16:31:02 | Moos | Paul_The_Nerd: is it a language logic |
16:31:11 | Moos | in this case english logic |
16:31:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Many people here are too "proud" (stubborn) and if you won't agree to do it their way, then they won't agree to do it yours. And that fouls everything up. |
16:32:05 | XavierGr | I am willing to change my habbits if everyone agrees to change! |
16:32:06 | TiMiD[dead] | anyway, I see diversity more like an asset |
16:32:26 | XavierGr | an asset in which way? |
16:33:05 | TiMiD[dead] | itmakes people think different |
16:33:30 | TiMiD[dead] | so that they can have differents approches of a problem |
16:33:47 | Moos | "need everything for do one world" like we said in french |
16:34:25 | Moos | "il faut de tout pour faire un monde" :) |
16:34:27 | TiMiD[dead] | word by word translation :) |
16:34:45 | Moos | yeah you know my english level ;-) |
16:35:00 | TiMiD[dead] | not that bad ! |
16:35:06 | TiMiD[dead] | (mine is not better ...) |
16:35:12 | Moos | :D |
16:35:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh. It's true though. The language you think in affects to an extent the way you think about problems. |
16:35:59 | Moos | yes completly |
16:36:18 | TiMiD[dead] | that's more true for asian people who have a completely different way of writing :p |
16:36:31 | Moos | Paul: and I studied the language Sciences, I can confirm to you |
16:36:44 | Moos | yeah |
16:37:01 | XavierGr | does anyone know why Japanese people say the chan after a name sometimes? |
16:37:10 | XavierGr | ^word "chan" |
16:37:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's like san, or sama. They demonstrate eithera degree of familiarity or respect, depending on which words they use, from my understanding. |
16:37:43 | Moos | it's maybe family thing |
16:37:44 | TiMiD[dead] | chan is a suffix you put after a name |
16:38:02 | TiMiD[dead] | if it's a girl name (and if you are close to her) |
16:38:07 | TiMiD[dead] | after a baybe name |
16:38:56 | TiMiD[dead] | after a boys you want to tease (you implicitely say that he is a girl :p) |
16:38:58 | Moos | it's maybe "De..." in french |
16:39:08 | XavierGr | I see some anime movies lately and sometimes keep hearing this suffix, strange, they say it as one word "[name]chan" |
16:39:22 | Moos | or "Ibn...or Ben..." in arabic |
16:39:29 | TiMiD[dead] | not |
16:39:36 | TiMiD[dead] | it's polite level |
16:39:41 | Moos | oh ok |
16:39:44 | TiMiD[dead] | 1 sama |
16:39:46 | Moos | respect |
16:39:49 | TiMiD[dead] | 2 san |
16:39:53 | TiMiD[dead] | 3 chan / kun |
16:39:56 | _FireFly_ | ok i have updated my remote-changes in keyboard.c so it works correctly with the patch from XavierGr :) |
16:40:00 | TiMiD[dead] | 4 only the name :) |
16:40:12 | Moos | Firefly: fine :) |
16:40:29 | _FireFly_ | not uploaded yet a build :) |
16:40:46 | Moos | hehe go, go, go |
16:41:02 | TiMiD[dead] | keyboard.c ? |
16:41:33 | XavierGr | yes I did a small modification for large screens on the virtual keyboard. |
16:41:45 | Moos | yes and thanks for it ;-) |
16:41:48 | _FireFly_ | that had breaked my remote changes :) |
16:41:59 | XavierGr | I made it to fit all the letters in one screen, instead of having to cycle with the mode button. |
16:42:02 | TiMiD[dead] | ok :) |
16:42:29 | XavierGr | is there a remote virtual keyboard Firefly? |
16:42:38 | XavierGr | I mean do you output it too? |
16:42:42 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
16:42:54 | XavierGr | and now what will you do that the remote screen is small? |
16:43:01 | XavierGr | make some more #ifs I guess? |
16:43:34 | XavierGr | or add an IF HAVE REMOTE on those that I excluded? |
16:44:01 | _FireFly_ | not realy some more vars for the remote and currently a seperate kbdpages for the remote |
16:44:12 | _FireFly_ | which is the same as the old one :) |
16:44:39 | _FireFly_ | and in button handling i had to duplicate some code |
16:45:32 | _FireFly_ | to reflect the changes |
16:45:47 | XavierGr | now my radio patch is waiting for commitment, that's why I don't use your patch Firefly, too many errors when I apply it in radio.c |
16:46:01 | _FireFly_ | now the char-selection itself is independend |
16:46:21 | XavierGr | I once made it to compile clean but then I deleted the file and now I am bored to write it again. |
16:46:36 | _FireFly_ | i will adept my patch when your radio patch is commited :) |
16:46:42 | _FireFly_ | i think this is easier |
16:47:50 | XavierGr | it is just a lot of lcd copies |
16:47:59 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
16:48:32 | _FireFly_ | that was the main-thing that i had done while make the remote to display more :) |
16:49:21 | amiconn | TiMiD[dead]: There might be a problem with your patch on archos (note that I didn't try it yet): |
16:49:55 | TiMiD[dead] | amiconn: what is the pbl ? |
16:49:56 | amiconn | As you say, there is a temporary code size increase. This code size increase might be too much for the good old recorder v1... |
16:50:06 | TiMiD[dead] | :( |
16:50:21 | TiMiD[dead] | I have nounit to test ... |
16:50:36 | TiMiD[dead] | but on iriver, the code increase was 5kb |
16:50:42 | amiconn | It would already fail building in this case |
16:51:04 | amiconn | Compared to current cvs? |
16:51:04 | XavierGr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_titles |
16:51:08 | TiMiD[dead] | yes |
16:52:08 | amiconn | Hmm, so it might fit, but really tight. SH1 code size is roughly the same as coldfire code size for the same C code |
16:52:16 | XavierGr | TiMiD[dead]: test it on the sim, you can see if there is an error about ram |
16:52:24 | _FireFly_ | i'm currently upload my builds for h120/h140 and ihp-100/110/115 with remote-support and latest cvs-changes |
16:52:27 | amiconn | XavierGr: nope |
16:52:28 | TiMiD[dead] | it works on the sim :) |
16:52:44 | TiMiD[dead] | :( |
16:52:58 | amiconn | The limit is that the archos loader doesn't load firmwares >200KB, and not all boxes are flashable |
16:53:02 | XavierGr | it did when i pssed the 32kb plugin limit |
16:53:44 | _FireFly_ | ok uploaded |
16:53:48 | TiMiD[dead] | I try to ompile it for recorder v1 |
16:53:51 | amiconn | We're currently 7134 bytes away from that barrier on recorder v1 |
16:54:22 | amiconn | ...much more for player, so there is no problem for player |
16:54:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Where's your site _FireFly_? |
16:54:31 | XavierGr | and then what? |
16:54:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or space |
16:54:43 | _FireFly_ | home.arcor.de/s.wezel/ |
16:54:47 | TiMiD[dead] | well, if my patch gets applied, it shouldreduce the code size in the end |
16:54:49 | XavierGr | we will stop development due to this? |
16:55:14 | amiconn | ...and not for fmrecorder, recorder v2 and the Ondios, as the limit is 400KB there as we recently did discover |
16:56:04 | XavierGr | is there a limit for iriver? |
16:56:10 | amiconn | Many more things can and should be done to optimise the current code base |
16:56:48 | _FireFly_ | i think for some code-parts a complete rewrite would be usefull |
16:59:39 | XavierGr | well, that's easy to sa but to implement.... |
16:59:57 | _FireFly_ | i know |
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17:02:33 | TiMiD[dead] | when I was working on the filetree, I wanted to rewrite it ... |
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17:05:19 | TiMiD | doesn't compile for player v1 without simulator :( |
17:05:50 | TiMiD | anyone knwo what is the lcd_update fn on this target ? |
17:06:22 | TiMiD | or is it unneeded ? |
17:06:36 | amiconn | It's lcd_update(), same as on iriver |
17:06:48 | amiconn | Ah, no I misread |
17:07:02 | amiconn | player has no lcd_update(), it always updates immediately |
17:07:15 | TiMiD | ok |
17:07:39 | TiMiD | so lcd_update is just needed with simulator |
17:07:49 | amiconn | yes+ |
17:07:52 | TiMiD | :) |
17:08:04 | TiMiD | that's why I didn't noticed that before :p |
17:11:24 | amiconn | Normal code can use lcd_update() unconditionally, because it is an empty macro for player target, but obtaining a pointer obviously won't work |
17:11:47 | TiMiD | that's a problem :( |
17:11:48 | _FireFly_ | mabe create a empty function for that |
17:11:51 | _FireFly_ | maybe |
17:11:56 | TiMiD | maybe ... |
17:12:01 | TiMiD | or put tons of ifdefs |
17:12:02 | amiconn | _FireFly_: Another q&d??? |
17:13:16 | TiMiD | #ifdef SIMULATOR |
17:13:16 | TiMiD | screen->update=&lcd_update; |
17:13:16 | TiMiD | #else |
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17:13:16 | TiMiD | #ifndef HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS |
17:13:16 | TiMiD | screen->update=&lcd_update; |
17:13:18 | TiMiD | #endif |
17:13:20 | TiMiD | #endif |
17:13:35 | TiMiD | that works, but it's a little heavy to handle |
17:13:55 | amiconn | That can be combined into one #if : |
17:13:58 | TiMiD | (I don't know if you can do || in preprocessor |
17:14:00 | TiMiD | ok ! |
17:14:44 | amiconn | #if defined(LCD_BITMAP) || defined(SIMULATOR) |
17:14:50 | amiconn | (avoiding the negation) |
17:14:52 | TiMiD | #if SIMULATOR || !HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS |
17:14:52 | TiMiD | void (*update)(void); |
17:14:53 | TiMiD | #endif |
17:15:00 | TiMiD | better ;) |
17:15:11 | amiconn | Meh, of course HAVE_LCD_BITMAP |
17:15:29 | TiMiD | ok |
17:15:31 | amiconn | In fact this construct looks familiar, it is used in a number of places |
17:15:45 | amiconn | #if defined(HAVE_LCD_BITMAP) || defined(SIMULATOR) |
17:16:11 | ashridah | fucking hell i hate user interface coding. |
17:16:30 | TiMiD | it's fun :) |
17:16:52 | ashridah | this is what i get for letting amatures design the ui tho |
17:16:59 | amiconn | TiMiD: E.g. firmware/export/lcd.h line 58 :) |
17:18:30 | TiMiD | exact : |
17:19:02 | TiMiD | in my code there are not a lot of colls to update |
17:19:07 | TiMiD | maybe 2 or 3 |
17:22:39 | TiMiD | ok it's compiled |
17:23:06 | TiMiD | archos.mod is 151890kb |
17:23:18 | TiMiD | (it's this file ?) |
17:24:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | kb? |
17:24:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | That would be... quite large. |
17:24:31 | TiMiD | oops :) |
17:24:43 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
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17:25:14 | TiMiD | I forgot to remove the divx included in the build :p |
17:25:28 | _FireFly_ | divx ?? |
17:25:39 | webguest63 | is there a way to get the cvs w/o the dircache patch? |
17:25:49 | TiMiD | you don't hide your divx in ytou rb firware file ? |
17:26:06 | TiMiD | webguest63: if you want I have a version without it |
17:26:11 | TiMiD | but with my remote patch |
17:26:16 | amiconn | TiMiD: There must be some odd section in the compiler output, causing the linker to put it at address zero |
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17:26:46 | webguest63 | TiMiD: is it uncompiled? cuz i need to apply some patches |
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17:27:14 | TiMiD | webguest63: http://timidzone.free.fr/pub/rockbox/remote/rockbox-daily-remote-src-20051007.zip |
17:27:24 | TiMiD | amiconn: what do you mean ? :D |
17:28:53 | TiMiD | (anyway, the oerload seems to be 2372b on the recorderv1) |
17:29:22 | amiconn | ? |
17:29:37 | amiconn | overload? |
17:29:42 | TiMiD | yes :) |
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17:29:55 | * | amiconn is confused |
17:30:01 | amiconn | What do you mean? |
17:30:10 | TiMiD | my patch increases the code size by 2372b |
17:30:24 | amiconn | Oooh, that's.... small :) |
17:30:29 | TiMiD | :) |
17:30:45 | amiconn | I wonder what went wrong on player though |
17:31:00 | amiconn | What sh-elf-gcc did you use? |
17:31:09 | TiMiD | oops I'm talking about the player |
17:31:31 | TiMiD | versin 3.3.1 |
17:31:40 | amiconn | Ah, I guess you meant bytes then, not kbytes |
17:31:54 | TiMiD | (using windows beacause simulator doesn' compile under linux ... so poor) |
17:32:02 | TiMiD | yes ) |
17:32:04 | TiMiD | of course |
17:32:08 | amiconn | I have 3.3.6, under cygwin |
17:32:22 | TiMiD | a file that is that big would have shocked me ! |
17:32:30 | amiconn | I'm only rarely using linux, in a virtual machine |
17:32:50 | TiMiD | I use linux all the days :) |
17:32:56 | _FireFly_ | me too ;) |
17:33:14 | TiMiD | but since I started developping on my laptop ... I'm forced to use windows |
17:33:23 | _FireFly_ | why forced ?? |
17:33:25 | TiMiD | (until I solve that simulator build issue) |
17:33:30 | _FireFly_ | oh |
17:33:31 | _FireFly_ | ok |
17:34:23 | _FireFly_ | i have no problem compiling the sim under linux |
17:34:48 | TiMiD | it works on my desktop, but not on my laptop |
17:35:12 | _FireFly_ | same distribution ?? |
17:35:20 | TiMiD | yes |
17:35:23 | TiMiD | gentoo ^^ |
17:35:27 | _FireFly_ | me too :) |
17:35:35 | TiMiD | same glibcversions, same useflags |
17:36:42 | _FireFly_ | i'm using Calculating dependencies ...done! |
17:36:42 | _FireFly_ | [ebuild R ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6 |
17:36:42 | _FireFly_ | [ebuild R ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r1 |
17:36:51 | TiMiD | ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in /mnt/obelix/rockbox/rockbox-devel/build/librockbox.a(errno.o) |
17:36:54 | TiMiD | /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Bad value |
17:37:21 | TiMiD | It should work with all versions of glibc btw :) |
17:37:21 | _FireFly_ | have you nptlonly in your use-flags ?? |
17:37:30 | TiMiD | yes |
17:37:42 | _FireFly_ | than the sim will not work |
17:37:56 | TiMiD | (but I tried to recompile glibc without it and it didn't worked better ...) |
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17:38:44 | webguest50 | FireFly_: thanks for your remote patch, is there anyway I can change the rwps? |
17:39:08 | _FireFly_ | yepp you can create it yourself ;) |
17:39:26 | _FireFly_ | simple create a file with rwps as file-postfix |
17:40:49 | webguest50 | thanks for the info |
17:41:01 | Lear | When running the windows simulator, is there any way to figure out where a codec crash happens? |
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17:43:05 | webguest63 | yup, works great |
17:43:05 | webguest63 | thanks alot |
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19:26:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | What exactly does the latest change to rockbox do? I'm looking at the single added line of source and not really understandhing how it changes anything... |
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19:27:18 | _FireFly_ | it adjust the hight of the scrollbar |
19:27:40 | _FireFly_ | depending on the max showable text lines |
19:27:52 | _FireFly_ | and this is depending on the used font |
19:28:22 | amiconn | Precisely, it does this for the menu. The file tree already had this feature |
19:29:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | But if height=menu_lines*fh and menu_lines=height/fh, that means height=(height/fh)*fh, which means it's either the same, or one different, no? |
19:29:49 | amiconn | This is integer arithmetics... |
19:29:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
19:30:20 | amiconn | E.g 55/8 = 6 and 6*8 = 48, not 55 |
19:30:24 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
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19:31:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | So it aligns the scrollbar with the text displayed? |
19:31:04 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
19:31:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay |
19:31:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was trying to understand that. I saw what the math was doing, but the message that accompanied it confused me. |
19:32:48 | _FireFly_ | here is my description of this patch :) : |
19:32:50 | _FireFly_ | Currently the vertical scrollbar length is only |
19:32:50 | _FireFly_ | depending if statusbar is on or off. |
19:32:50 | _FireFly_ | But if the viewable text lines(the hight of all lines) |
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19:32:50 | _FireFly_ | is smaller, due a e.g. bigger font, than the scrollbar |
19:32:50 | _FireFly_ | length the scrollbar is longer(the length) displayed |
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19:32:51 | _FireFly_ | than necessary. |
19:32:53 | _FireFly_ | With this patch the vertical scrollbar length is also |
19:32:55 | _FireFly_ | depending on the hight of the viewable textline. |
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19:33:25 | _FireFly_ | i hope this make more sense to you Paul |
19:33:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think I've got it. |
19:33:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Thanks |
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20:14:09 | Moos | Grrr |
20:14:27 | Moos | my iriver freezing |
20:14:27 | _FireFly_ | ?? |
20:14:48 | Moos | 2 times |
20:15:08 | Moos | I suspect the new dircache :( |
20:15:45 | Moos | when I pushed start for shuting down, it freeze |
20:15:59 | Moos | long time here my player don't crash |
20:16:36 | Moos | I trying to reproduce the behaviour |
20:17:53 | Moos | ok I can reproduce it |
20:18:10 | Moos | it is very bad :((((( |
20:19:00 | Moos | one simple log press freeze the player sometimes |
20:19:32 | Moos | it with the last bleeding edge build any patch aplyed |
20:19:51 | dpassen1 | you mean shutting down while playing a song? |
20:20:38 | Moos | I stop one song, and long press to stop (normal) for "off" the player |
20:20:53 | Moos | and it freeze in the browser screen |
20:21:11 | Moos | need to reuse the reset buton |
20:21:14 | dpassen1 | mine froze when i long pressed stop to shut the player while i was playing a song and it froze in the WPS |
20:21:47 | _FireFly_ | hmm i have no problem |
20:21:49 | Moos | this bus wasn't |
20:21:55 | Moos | *bug |
20:22:25 | Moos | the stranginess, it's don't occure all the time |
20:22:34 | dpassen1 | it doesn't happen everytime |
20:22:35 | Moos | I trying to understand when |
20:24:04 | Moos | ok I understood |
20:24:11 | _FireFly_ | and ?? |
20:24:41 | Moos | when I start the player and play one song, stop it, and want to shut down, it don't |
20:24:51 | Moos | simply freeze the browser |
20:24:59 | Moos | and need to reboot |
20:25:14 | Moos | when I start the player and don't play song |
20:25:28 | Moos | just shuting down it, it do |
20:25:52 | Moos | it's very strange |
20:25:56 | Moos | :-( |
20:25:57 | _FireFly_ | i can't reproduce it mayself |
20:25:58 | TiMiD | does the bug happens when you disable dircache ? |
20:26:06 | Moos | let me try |
20:27:22 | Moos | ok it don't :) |
20:27:25 | _FireFly_ | maybe you have a to high values for the limits |
20:27:33 | Moos | it's one dircach problem |
20:27:52 | Moos | no my limits are the same like always |
20:28:05 | Moos | and don't change |
20:28:06 | _FireFly_ | 400 and 10000 |
20:28:35 | Moos | 450 here, cause I've got one dir with 410 Funk files ;-) |
20:28:47 | Moos | but isn't the problem |
20:29:09 | Moos | if it was this, I have one full bufer message |
20:29:35 | Moos | It's one dircache bug |
20:29:37 | _FireFly_ | you could try my build (with remote patch) if it really relay on dircach |
20:29:47 | Moos | Where are you Slasheri :-) |
20:29:48 | Moos | ? |
20:30:02 | Moos | FireFly: yes I can |
20:30:05 | _FireFly_ | home.arcor.de/s.wezel there you can find my build |
20:30:07 | Slasheri | Moos: hi, i just came home from town :) |
20:30:09 | Moos | give me the link |
20:30:16 | Moos | Hello |
20:30:29 | _FireFly_ | maybe Moos found a bug in dircach |
20:30:36 | Moos | :-( |
20:30:54 | Slasheri | Hmm, reading the logs.. |
20:30:57 | Moos | Simple to reproduce here |
20:31:36 | Moos | Start player (dircach enable), play song, stop song, shut down |
20:31:50 | Moos | bug freeze :-( |
20:31:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not encountering that bug, but again I'm using _Firefly_'s build. |
20:32:16 | * | amiconn has memory guard working on iriver :) |
20:32:22 | Moos | I'm using last bleeding edge build with no patch |
20:32:33 | Moos | amiconn: congrates |
20:32:34 | Slasheri | Moos: weird, i have never crashed my player that way |
20:32:36 | dpassen1 | i cant reproduce it |
20:33:22 | Moos | it's maybe cause my song collection isn't like yours |
20:33:34 | Moos | anyone have a dircache file different |
20:33:44 | Moos | size... |
20:34:02 | Slasheri | but there is one problem where filetree code modifies the structures got from readdir_cached |
20:34:43 | Moos | ... ? |
20:34:57 | Moos | :-) |
20:34:59 | Slasheri | i will commit a fix for that (it works as long has d_name is not set entirely null) |
20:35:05 | Slasheri | -h |
20:35:17 | Moos | ok thanks |
20:35:49 | Moos | I will wait for test it, in waiting need to disable cache for play music |
20:41:31 | Slasheri | Moos: committed, but i am not sure if this will fix the behaviour you are experiencing |
20:41:53 | Moos | I 'll test in case... :) |
20:42:03 | Moos | maybe usb problem? |
20:42:25 | _FireFly_ | why do you think that ?? |
20:42:32 | Slasheri | might be anything, something that dircache just triggered |
20:42:44 | Moos | ok |
20:43:21 | Moos | sorry, I need to do one magic cigaret break of few minutes :-P |
20:50:17 | amiconn | Slasheri: I noticed another problem with dircache: |
20:50:53 | amiconn | If the cache rebuild is interrupted (by plugging usb or shutting down), the next rebuild is a non-transparent rebuild |
20:51:07 | Slasheri | amiconn: that is intended behaviour |
20:51:12 | amiconn | Why? |
20:51:56 | Slasheri | i just think it would be better to do non-transparent rebuilding if the building was interrupted for some reason.. but hmm.. |
20:52:08 | amiconn | Iiuc a non-transparent rebuild is only necessary if the cache didn't fit into the reserved memory |
20:52:26 | Slasheri | i am not sure if they are any benefits with this behaviour |
20:52:40 | Slasheri | amiconn: true.. i will change that |
20:52:48 | amiconn | Related observation: Non-transparent rebuild isn't indicated after usb, only on boot |
20:53:34 | Slasheri | hmm, correct. i will fix that too |
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21:00:12 | Moos | I will wait a bit before test :D |
21:03:58 | Moos | brb, reboot |
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21:08:28 | amiconn | Memory guard has some shortcomings on coldfire which can't be avoided :/ |
21:10:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh? |
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21:18:52 | webguest82 | _FireFly_: do you have a description for the remote button mapping ?, I really just need to know which is the delete button |
21:19:16 | webguest82 | dont want to accidently hit that whilst fiddling |
21:19:34 | _FireFly_ | rec if you mean for the virtual-keyboard |
21:20:20 | webguest82 | no, on the emote itself, is there a delete key sequence |
21:20:37 | _FireFly_ | for what ?? |
21:21:03 | _FireFly_ | i have no knowlage about a delete key sequence |
21:21:23 | webguest82 | I dont want to accidently delete files, so what buttons have you assigned as delete on the remote |
21:21:57 | webguest82 | if any |
21:22:26 | _FireFly_ | hmm do you mean the menu-entry delete in the menu which you can access by holding the select-button on the main ?? |
21:22:50 | _FireFly_ | if so then it's the play-button on the remote to get into this menu |
21:23:03 | webguest82 | ah that is the sequence for delete :) |
21:24:33 | _FireFly_ | i will upload a file in which button mappings for the remote is listet(might be incomplete) |
21:24:50 | webguest82 | thanks, |
21:25:14 | _FireFly_ | it't the file README.remote on home.arcor.de/s.wezel |
21:25:23 | webguest82 | danke |
21:26:10 | _FireFly_ | np |
21:26:12 | _FireFly_ | :) |
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21:28:12 | Moos | Slasheri: that works now :-) |
21:28:44 | Moos | it was dircache fixing or usb that resolve the problem |
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21:44:35 | Moos | Any chance to will have dicache working with id3 browser? |
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22:25:09 | amiconn | The system.c diff looks really funny... |
22:26:30 | ender` | http://www.icarus.net/johnjo/evolutio.htm |
22:44:22 | TiMiD | I like the "Chief Executive" way :) |
22:45:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aye, I do too. |
22:55:14 | TiMiD | I'm getting a very strange behaviour with the diff command |
22:55:37 | TiMiD | in the beginning of the file, everything is just fine |
22:56:06 | TiMiD | then in the end I have all the files I changed restored to the old state ... |
22:56:57 | TiMiD | like this one https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1318081&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
22:57:04 | TiMiD | any ideas ? |
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23:06:39 | amiconn | hi Bagder |
23:06:47 | Bagder | evening |
23:07:45 | amiconn | Wiki spammer again :( Spam already removed by a user |
23:08:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | :( |
23:10:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does that *really* increase revenue? |
23:10:54 | Bagder | I think they want to rank higher in search engines |
23:13:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | =/ |
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23:29:22 | amiconn | Slasheri: While searching for good translations for the dircache option, I found a possible improvement for the option naming: |
23:30:14 | amiconn | Imho it would be better to use "Directory cache: On/Off" instead of "Enable directory cache: Yes/No" |
23:30:20 | amiconn | What do you think? |
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23:58:08 | dpassen1 | amiconn: i think its better your way, as well |
23:58:36 | Bagder | I do too |
23:58:48 | amiconn | Okay, then I'll commit that |