#rockbox 2005-10-14

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#rockbox log for 2005-10-14

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00:00:57	_user_	markun: is the unicode patch usuable yet?
00:01:10	_user_	usable*
00:01:55	phaedrus961	_user_: define "usable"
00:02:31	_user_	phaedrus961: can play music without crashing every five minute or so
00:02:52	HCl	good idea on splitting the mailing list in two
00:03:41	HCl	darn, i need to catch paul
00:03:47	HCl	i'm curious to what bugs the java version generates
00:03:59	phaedrus961	it doesn't crash at all for me, but then I'm using an archos
00:04:06		Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org")
00:04:36	_user_	phaedrus961: hmm can i try it?
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00:05:11	*	HCl goes to sleep..
00:06:12	phaedrus961	of course, the patch is available here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1267994
00:06:58	_user_	but doesnt this not support korean?
00:07:30	phaedrus961	it does if your tags are unicode
00:07:41	_user_	oh... ic
00:07:51	_user_	where do i get the font then? i was not able to find it so far
00:07:53	phaedrus961	and markun made a font that has korean chars
00:08:13	phaedrus961	I can send it to you if you like
00:08:33		Part OnkelJonas
00:08:39	_user_	that'd be nice
00:08:52	_user_	g2tl84@gmail.com
00:18:52	_user_	cool, i got it
00:18:59	phaedrus961	_user_: you've got mail :)
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00:19:29	_user_	now.. im having problem patching it
00:19:34	_user_	i did
00:19:43	_user_	patch -p1 <unicode.diff −−binary
00:19:46	_user_	from /rockbox
00:19:50	_user_	is that not correct?
00:20:12	phaedrus961	remove the −−binary
00:20:33	phaedrus961	and it won't patch cleanly to the current cvs
00:21:16	_user_	assertion failed: hunk, file ../patch-2.5.9-src/patch.c, line 340
00:21:47	_user_	this app has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
00:23:07	phaedrus961	sorry, I don't know what that means. maybe someone else knows?
00:23:20		Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org")
00:23:41	phaedrus961	are you able to use other patches?
00:23:46	_user_	yeah
00:24:05	_user_	maybe it's this dev tool
00:27:17	phaedrus961	maybe, I'd send you my current patch, but I'm in the middle of adding codepage conversions and it most likely would have problems
00:27:48	phaedrus961	hang on a sec, I have an idea
00:28:44		Quit dpassen1 ()
00:28:48	_user_	hmm ok
00:29:17	_user_	im installing cygwin to see how that works out. i need to compile it myself so that i can add the stuff i usually add :)
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01:01:25	Paul_The_Nerd	HCl: The bugs with the java version and the perl version are identical. Some tags simply aren't read. I'm verifying that my files are tagged properly though it'll take a bit, as I'm also replaygaining them again. (I stripped everything to be safe.)
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01:31:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99)
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01:34:44	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99)
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01:38:23	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99)
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01:42:02	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99)
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01:45:59	DEBUG	gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99)
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03:29:01	_user_	i'm having problem compiling after patching the unicode patch
03:31:32	phaedrus961	what problem is that?
03:33:00	_user_	i get an error involving lang.o file
03:33:03	_user_	using cygwin
03:33:14	_user_	i'm trying it again
03:34:43	phaedrus961	what is the error?
03:37:22	_user_	CC settings_menu.c
03:37:26	_user_	settings_menu.c: In function `bidi_support':
03:37:31	_user_	settings_menu.c:287: error: structure has no member named `bidi_support'
03:37:35	_user_	settings_menu.c:290: error: `set_bidi_support' undeclared (first use in this fun
03:37:44	_user_	settings_menu.c:290: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
03:37:49	_user_	settings_menu.c:290: error: for each function it appears in.)
03:37:53	_user_	settings_menu.c: In function `display_settings_menu':
03:37:58	_user_	settings_menu.c:1540: error: `codepage_setting' undeclared (first use in this fu
03:38:05	_user_	settings_menu.c:1540: error: initializer element is not constant
03:38:10	_user_	settings_menu.c:1540: error: (near initialization for `items[7].function')
03:38:15	_user_	settings_menu.c:1540: warning: missing initializer
03:38:20	_user_	settings_menu.c:1540: warning: (near initialization for `items[7].function')
03:38:24	_user_	settings_menu.c:1540: error: initializer element is not constant
03:38:28	_user_	settings_menu.c:1540: error: (near initialization for `items[7]')
03:38:32	_user_	settings_menu.c: At top level:
03:38:36	_user_	settings_menu.c:285: warning: 'bidi_support' defined but not used
03:38:41	_user_	make[1]: *** [/home/g2tL/rockbox/bd/apps/settings_menu.o] Error 1
03:38:44	_user_	make: *** [all] Error 2
03:39:00	_user_	i'm gonna try patching it again w/o the korean language file
03:39:58	_user_	btw, i did not apply any other patches
03:41:52	_user_	same error
03:44:10	_user_	btw, i have no problem compiling w/o the unicode patch
03:53:55	_user_	i also have no problem compiling with the chinese/japanese patch all other patches i usually apply
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04:02:45	ashridah	does the patch apply cleanly? ie, there aren't any error messages along with the 'patching file xyz' messages?
04:03:39	_user_	it doesnt apply cleanly
04:03:53	_user_	and phaedrus mentioned it before
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04:16:52	phaedrus961	_user_: download the updated patch from the tracker and try that
04:17:04	_user_	ok
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04:20:21	_user_	trying w/o the korean lang file
04:20:33	_user_	patches cleanly :)
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04:23:01	_user_	compiles cleanly too! thx alot! :D
04:26:56	phaedrus961	glad it's working :)
04:29:26	_user_	:) im out. again, ty alot
04:29:27	_user_	gnite
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06:52:32	_user_	can anyone tell me where to find firefly's remote patch? (not the compiled one)
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07:01:20	ashridah	there are irc log archives on www.rockbox.org. pity they haven't been indexed and aren't searchable :(
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08:28:29	amiconn	Morning
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08:39:41	B4gder	morning
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09:06:49	amiconn	hi Zagor
09:07:06	amiconn	Windows installer builds are still not working :(
09:09:34	Zagor	boo
09:13:11	amiconn	...and logbot still doesn't know anything to explain
09:53:27	linuxstb	preglow: Have you seen this bug report: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1643.0
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11:12:00	B4gder	open source can make your sloppiness painfully public
11:12:26	*	B4gder <= sloppy person
11:21:37	ashridah	better than some people's pride be shown than so much as one backdoor goes unnoticed
11:22:01	B4gder	yes, in the end that is better
11:23:57	tamag0	Rockbox 2.5 - yes, it is true. Go get it.>> big thx :)
11:24:24	B4gder	my sloppiness caused the security advisories for curl and wget that fly around atm
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13:18:45	B4gder	http://cool.haxx.se/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rockbox-dev
13:19:16	B4gder	the new developers list
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13:42:59	Topic	"Rockbox 2.5 \| New developers mailing list!" by B4gder (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se)
13:43:17	Mode	"#RockBox -o B4gder " by B4gder (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se)
13:50:58	B4gder	there are currently 362 subscribers of rockbox
13:51:19	B4gder	and 6 of rockbox-dev ;-)
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14:14:12	B4gder	howdy ho
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14:15:39	muesli__	B4gder excellent, thx :D
14:17:03	B4gder	I must be tired, I'm seeing double
14:17:08	B4gder	:-P
14:17:22	muesli__	get rid of these drugs m8 ;)
14:17:33	B4gder	caffeine? never!
14:17:46	muesli__	true...
14:17:52	muesli__	no life before coffee
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14:20:42	muesli__	tach tantejonas ;)
14:20:52	amiconn	Rather quiet here these days...
14:21:22	OnkelJonas	are you calling me a bitch? :P
14:21:24	B4gder	I blame Linus' absense ;-)
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14:21:38	muesli__	second that
14:21:39	muesli__	;)
14:22:17	muesli__	OnkelJonas well...if you prefer to be called a bitch, yes :D
14:22:22	OnkelJonas	:D
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14:24:04	muesli__	hi xavierakles ;)
14:25:16	XavierGr	Hi :)
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14:44:22	markun	I found some nice arabic BDF fonts: ftp://crl.nmsu.edu/CLR/multiling/unicode/fonts/
14:44:32	markun	But they are too wide for the rockbox font format.
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14:58:25	muesli__	amiconn do you think video on 3xx with more than 10fps would be possible (sometime...)
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15:10:46	amiconn	Perhaps... but that needs a video codec. Those are entirely not my domain
15:10:57	amiconn	(plus I don't have a H3x0)
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15:25:03	B4gder	24 subscribers of the dev list now
15:26:08	muesli__	kewl :D
15:30:34	*	XavierGr heads to subscribe!
15:31:23	muesli__	i've just hired a new rbx-user :D
15:35:02	amiconn	XavierGr: Already tried the latest cvs? The radio probs with CPU idle mode should be gone :)
15:35:12	XavierGr	hired?
15:35:34	XavierGr	\o/ Yooopie
15:35:49	XavierGr	I will test it right away.
15:36:15	muesli__	XavierGr we are not gynaecologists ^^
15:38:13	XavierGr	Muesli, I got a little confused I must say?
15:38:16	*	HCl unsubscribes from the rockbox mailing list and subscribes to the rockbox-dev mailinglist :)
15:38:29	muesli__	<XavierGr> \o/
15:38:37	muesli__	or what else is this??
15:38:40	XavierGr	lol
15:38:58	muesli__	:D
15:39:07	XavierGr	You weakid man... naughty boy
15:40:11	XavierGr	well I couldn't think of that this way, but I can see that it resembles a little man with his hands up, (except the one you thought)
15:41:29	muesli__	http://zachau.info/
15:41:30	muesli__	;9
15:42:22	muesli__	lol XavierGr now i see your version too ;)
15:44:00	*	HCl shakes his head
15:44:31	muesli__	yeah, shake it baby :D
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15:45:18	HCl	O.o
15:45:55	XavierGr	roflmao!!!
15:47:23	muesli__	the good thing linus isnt here it doenst matter how deep the level sinks ;;
15:47:25	muesli__	;)
15:47:39	XavierGr	hmm now I now why I get those alac errors during compile.
15:48:09	XavierGr	I haven't downloaded the whole cvs code for a long time, instead I just type cvs update.
15:48:21	XavierGr	can this cause errors with new added codecs?
15:48:24	B4gder	cvs update is enough
15:48:28	B4gder	but use update -dP
15:48:35	amiconn	Yes, if you don't use cvs update -dP
15:48:43	amiconn	:)
15:49:05	XavierGr	what's the difference anyway?
15:49:34	amiconn	The 'd' means you'll get new dirs added
15:49:43	amiconn	...e.g. the alac codec
15:49:56	XavierGr	so that's why I get the codec error. Thanks!
15:50:19	amiconn	The 'P' means no longer used directories get removed (pruned)
15:50:19	XavierGr	this way all my builds (made with make -k) can't play alac!
15:53:34	XavierGr	now lets see if it will make a clean compile....
15:54:57	XavierGr	I thought that tools will be compiled if there not when you copmile rockbox?
15:55:16	XavierGr	(with some recent changes in cvs)
15:55:21	amiconn	http://neelix.net/download/doc/OpenSourceDevWithCVS_2E/ <= The pdf therein is really useful for understanding cvs
15:56:12	B4gder	XavierGr: nope
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15:58:10	amiconn	They will, if you reconfigure
15:58:14	XavierGr	ahk 350 pages!!!
15:59:14	B4gder	amiconn: no, that patch was reverted again
15:59:35	XavierGr	why?
15:59:47	B4gder	because it didn't do it right
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16:00:13	B4gder	in fact it only worked when building the simulator
16:00:56	amiconn	Ah ok. Saw the commit message, but thought this wasn't a reversal, but a fix
16:01:56	B4gder	the problem really boils down to that we don't setup proper separate compiler variables in the makefiles for native and target compilers
16:02:25	XavierGr	amiconn: I can confirm that there is no radio mistuning now.
16:02:40	XavierGr	what was wrong? Wsa it the PLL you were saying?
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16:03:58	amiconn	Not the pll itself, but the pll configuration register also controls the audio clock generation
16:04:09	amiconn	These bits were set wrong in idle mode
16:05:07	amiconn	Another of Linus' special bugs ;)
16:05:10	XavierGr	radio is now perfect. Presets are working bugless and someone can use plugins without the slight mistuning.
16:08:21	_FireFly_	i can hear only a pop if i enter the FM-screen while FM is running
16:08:22	XavierGr	Slasheri is working on the recording right?
16:08:38	XavierGr	The pop resides in the radio code
16:08:46	XavierGr	with my patch this pop is fixed
16:08:59	XavierGr	the mistuning resides somewhere else.
16:09:26	_FireFly_	is your patch in cvs ??
16:09:47	XavierGr	no the patch about the radio presets in the patch tracker
16:10:01	_FireFly_	ah ok
16:10:29	XavierGr	Linus forgot to check if the radio is perwered on, before calling some radio_set functions which cause a slight pop.
16:12:08	_FireFly_	sowas something similar I had already imagined
16:13:06	_FireFly_	argh bad translator :)
16:13:24	_FireFly_	it doesn't understand sowas
16:15:49	muesli__	will there be radio-wps?
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16:20:15	amiconn	hi preglow
16:25:04	preglow	hi
16:25:19	*	preglow isn't feeling well :/
16:29:15	muesli__	second that..damn coldness
16:33:17	B4gder	30 subscribers
16:33:35	muesli__	amiconn btw ~24h nonstop play with the ionity and irivers fw..will compare rbx vs iriver soon
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16:47:55	amiconn	preglow: Any chance that the 2 alac warnings get fixed? Or is that linuxstb's task?
16:49:32	preglow	no, i can fix them
16:49:33	linuxstb	amiconn: I'll have a look (but not until tonight at the earliest). But I want to fix it properly - i.e. by using size_t where it's appropriate instead of long.
16:49:42	preglow	yes, that's my point
16:50:11	linuxstb	In a way, alac is correct and the rest of Rockbox is wrong.
16:56:03	preglow	i'll have a look later when i don't feel so completely shitty
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17:27:33	lamed	help! i'm trying to subscribe to the new dev list, how do i configure it through my mail client?
17:27:39	lamed	(already subscribed)
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17:30:47	lamed	I'm trying to see the list without getting mail directly to my mailbox, but on the newsgroup server, obviously, it won't show, so how do i configure my client to show it?
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17:31:12	Zagor	lamed: it's not on the newsgroup server yet. they have to add it manually.
17:31:27	Zagor	i requested it a couple of hours ago
17:32:35	lamed	zagor: so the only way todo it is to have emails enabled?
17:33:47	Zagor	currently yes. hopefully they add it soon though.
17:34:15	lamed	thanks.
17:35:41	lamed	and where do I tell that i've found a missing IFDEF for the h simulator?
17:36:58	lamed	i mean, fileing a tracker sounds too much..? saying that here for someone who has admin rights? posting it to the CVS newsgroup? - it will get lost there... stating that in the .general newsgroup?
17:37:32	Zagor	the channel is logged and many devs read the log. so just saying it here is often enough.
17:39:01	lamed	zagor: thanks a million. And I've just went through the new dev mailing list archive... three messages...
17:39:22	Zagor	:-)
17:39:50	Zagor	gotta go. bye all.
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17:40:42	novimon	hey, flac seeking is broken in the current build
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18:08:49	lamed	Hear Hear! My first bug pointout! Iriver Simulator sound settings builds for an archos: (i.e. bass settings from -15 to 15 with step of 1, instead of 0-24 with step of 2 .) to fix:
18:08:58	lamed	firmware/sound.c:93:
18:09:03	lamed	-#ifdef HAVE_UDA1380
18:09:12	lamed	#if defined (HAVE_UDA1380) \|\| (SIMULATOR) && (IRIVER_H100_SERIES)
18:09:21	lamed	:at lines 122,151,180:
18:09:24	lamed	-#elif defined(HAVE_UDA1380)
18:09:30	lamed	#elif defined(HAVE_UDA1380) \|\| (SIMULATOR) && (IRIVER_H100_SERIES)
18:09:38	lamed	_______________________________________
18:10:09	lamed	?
18:10:15	lamed
18:10:36	lamed	i didn't know you can't transfer plus sign to irc ?!
18:10:41	lamed
18:10:51	lamed	plus = newline?
18:15:57	preglow	+++++++
18:16:02	preglow	it's just the web interface that's buggy
18:16:29	lamed	hehe
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18:17:21	lamed	ah!?? what have i done?! i've just "maxline=100" in cygwin and restarted it, now nothing works, not even "ls", anyone?
18:20:18	lamed	please?
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18:22:33	lamed	could someone please emulate my stupidish mistake and help? (type maxline=100 and reset cygwin?)
18:27:35	lamed	thanks!!!
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19:05:56	preglow	anyone know how common ape tags in vorbis files are?
19:16:46	Paul_The_Nerd	I've never even thought about using them... but that's just me.
19:17:02	preglow	i never thought about using them in ogg files
19:17:06	preglow	nor mp3 files...
19:17:20	Paul_The_Nerd	I can almost understand using them in MP3 files
19:17:30	Paul_The_Nerd	Except that ID3v2 exists
19:17:32	preglow	why? isn't id3v2 good enough?
19:17:34	preglow	exactly
19:18:11	Paul_The_Nerd	I guess since Ape tags can be applied to nearly everything some people think it's more "cosistent" to use them on all their files?
19:18:22	Paul_The_Nerd	"consistent"
19:19:02	Paul_The_Nerd	Though for me, I've always preferred to use the native tagging format of whatever I'm making, so it'll have the widest compatibility I can give it.
19:19:26	preglow	me too
19:19:58	Paul_The_Nerd	Imagine my surprise when I discovered Foobar2k had applied replaygain to a significant portion of my files in Ape tags.
19:20:09	Paul_The_Nerd	Not all of them mind you. Just most.
19:22:41	Paul_The_Nerd	In fact, until that happened, I'd never used Ape tags, I believe.
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19:37:24	CoCoLUS	iriver has placed advertisment in the xbox game la rush :)
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21:24:26	pfavr	hi, just installed rockbox 2.5 on my recorder 20
21:24:47	pfavr	but I don't get it re rombox/bootbox
21:25:00	pfavr	how do I install bootbox?
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21:26:43	pfavr	hi
21:26:52	muesli-	re
21:27:25	pfavr	anyone care to explain the steps needed to put bootbox in flash on my recorder20?
21:33:05	pfavr	pretty quiet here?
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21:36:50	Paul_The_Nerd	Sorry, was AFK. Steps are here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BootBox
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21:37:08	Paul_The_Nerd	Well, information and a link to the steps, rather
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21:37:17	pfavr	Paul_The_Nerd, thanks!
21:37:45	pfavr	but I just wonder if these steps are up-to-date?
21:38:27	pfavr	i.e. do I need to download the bootbox_rec.zip from this page?
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21:39:00	Paul_The_Nerd	Is yours a recorder v1 or v2?
21:39:01	pfavr	(I thought the most current image would be in rockbox-2.5 download)
21:39:09	pfavr	V1
21:39:23	Paul_The_Nerd	Actually, it likely would be.
21:39:32	Paul_The_Nerd	This page is from slightly before the 2.5 release, I believe.
21:39:37	pfavr	yes
21:39:44	Paul_The_Nerd	Yeah, 2 days before.
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21:40:21	pfavr	in the 2.5 .rockbox dir there is both a rockbox.ucl and rombox.ucl
21:40:32	pfavr	wonder what the difference is?
21:40:54	lImbus	hi all
21:41:03	pfavr	hi!
21:41:18	Paul_The_Nerd	Rockbox.ucl is compressed, and rombox is not, if I understand correctly
21:41:31	lImbus	pfavr, the rombox may be of size 1 KB, it's then a fake one to overwrite older builds then
21:41:32	Paul_The_Nerd	I'm sorry, I'm not terribly familiar with the Archos setup, as I'm an H120 user.
21:41:42	pfavr	hmm, I thought ucl meant compressed
21:41:59	pfavr	lImbus, ahh that makes sense
21:42:35	pfavr	lImbus, do I need to install the files mentioned on the bootbox wiki page or is everything needed in the 2.5 release?
21:43:10	lImbus	I don't know yet what you are planning to do. I just stepped in
21:43:23	pfavr	sorry
21:43:36	lImbus	no problem at all
21:43:45	lImbus	I suppse you are going to install 2.5 with bootbox
21:43:47	pfavr	I would like to upgrade my recorder 20 from 2.4 (in flash) to 2.5 (in flash)
21:44:15	pfavr	I just installed ajbrec + .rockbox from 2.5
21:44:34	pfavr	and booted into 2.5 by loading the ajbrec manually
21:44:37	lImbus	yes, then I recommend to install bootbox as well. this kicks out the crappy archos software one forever so you got enough place in rom for a complete 2.5-build
21:44:50	pfavr	ok
21:45:14	pfavr	for this I need to download the bootbox_rec.zip from the wiki page?
21:45:33	pfavr	(I would kind of expect it to be part of the 2.5 release ;-)
21:45:33	lImbus	yup
21:45:39	pfavr	ok, thanks
21:45:46	lImbus	not yet. Dragon is a bit unsure yet
21:46:14	pfavr	?
21:46:28	pfavr	still beta?
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21:47:55	lImbus	not yet completely tested
21:48:06	lImbus	it's not yet dragon-certified
21:48:20	pfavr	well, that means I should test it, shouldn't I?
21:48:29	lImbus	hehe :-)
21:48:38	lImbus	which device precisely ?
21:49:05	pfavr	Archos Recorder 20
21:50:24	lImbus	same as mine, works like a charm
21:50:57	*	lImbus apologizes for beeing not that much responsive. he's got a soldering iron in the other hand
21:51:34	pfavr	lImbus, thanks I'll try it right away. BTW what are you soldering?
21:51:42	_FireFly_	lImbus: don't burn yourself :)
21:52:06	lImbus	it's one more max232 for an atmel ic
21:52:37	lImbus	http://koeln.ccc.de/prozesse/running/fnordlicht/
21:52:52	lImbus	it's all in german, just look at the pictures :-)
21:53:18	pfavr	ok, now which file do I flash - firmware_rec_norom.bin or firmware_rec.bin?
21:53:21	_FireFly_	och damit habe ich keine probleme :)
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21:55:07	lImbus	pfavr: euhh. the one thats one the BootBox wiki page :-)
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21:55:37	lImbus	can't remember having doubts
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22:02:09	pfavr	hmm, just flashed using the firmware_flash plugin. So next I should flash the rombox.ucl or rockbox.ucl, right?
22:02:59	pfavr	anyone aware of the difference between the two? (one is 190KB the other is 121KB)
22:03:00	muesli-	when i've created a database with makedb.bat how do i activate/search it?
22:03:10	lImbus	yes, rolo into 2.5, then rombox, ideally
22:04:07	lImbus	pfavr: the rombox is the special build that will run FROM rom. the other one will run as usual (after having copied itself to "ram") and consume more memory, so more battery on playback
22:04:32	pfavr	ok cool
22:04:39	pfavr	well it works nicely
22:04:40	lImbus	muesli-: F2 (if avaiable) and select "show fiels ->id3 database"
22:04:49	pfavr	starts rockbox 2.5 from flash now
22:04:59	pfavr	rockbox rocks
22:05:00	lImbus	congratz
22:05:00	muesli-	lImbus f2 ?
22:05:13	lImbus	muesli-, which device do you use ?
22:05:24	muesli-	ah, you mean show files -database?
22:05:28	pfavr	you guys rock as well, thanks for the help and hand-holding
22:05:30	muesli-	by pressing a-b
22:05:32	muesli-	?
22:07:28	lImbus	pfavr: thats for free :-) you're welcome
22:08:02	lImbus	muesli-: the f2.key is the usual name for the middle key underneath the display on the archos recorder devices
22:08:55	muesli-	ah..i was talking about the iriver, but could it check out myself .)
22:09:36	lImbus	unfortunately, I don't have any iriver yet
22:15:25	muesli-	go, get on, its worth ;)
22:16:28	lImbus	i believe seriously.
22:16:46	lImbus	but I want to get a h3x0 then. ("Wenn schon, denn schon")
22:16:54	_FireFly_	:)
22:16:58	muesli-	st�mmt auch wieder :D
22:17:13	_FireFly_	tja wenn man es sich leisten kann :)
22:17:32	muesli-	;)
22:17:54	muesli-	bei ebl�d hab ich aber welche schon f�r 200-220e gesehen
22:18:17	lImbus	there is where I am currently looking at.
22:18:35	lImbus	(let's stay in english for logbot and the logs and the others)
22:18:42	muesli-	yepp...
22:19:07	muesli-	i was thinking about getting an 320 and pimp it with a 30gb drive
22:19:19	lImbus	Sebastiens offer does not fit to me, as the US-version seems to have limited usb-host services (in hardware).
22:19:46	lImbus	I would really appreciate as image tank. I do a lot of digital photography (SLR)
22:20:05	muesli-	yeah, usb2go is one of killer aspects...
22:20:16	muesli-	but..
22:20:24	muesli-	hold on
22:20:35	muesli-	http://www.frozenantilope.de/iriver-forum/viewtopic.php?t=3645&sid=ddbc00b5cc6142ab7ed003e8e3244dd9
22:20:46	muesli-	an h140 can do it too
22:21:06	muesli-	and even better with usb2.0 instead of 1.0
22:21:10	muesli-	which is quite slow
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22:21:37	pfavr	thanks for all the help, I'm off... cya
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22:22:33	muesli-	which slr do you use?
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22:22:58	lImbus	canon 300d
22:23:07	muesli-	kewl ;)
22:23:19	lImbus	beginners favourite :-)
22:23:23	muesli-	i was considering t buy the 350d..
22:23:26	muesli-	to
22:24:28	muesli-	have you been uploading pix of you?
22:24:38	lImbus	well. the 350d make sme cry. is better and cheaper less that a year after I bought mine...
22:24:39	muesli-	i mean, not you in person ;)
22:24:58	lImbus	uploading to the internet ? not that I know.
22:25:11	lImbus	i'm doing a lot of plants and stuff like this
22:25:28	lImbus	not of general interest that I had to clutter my webspace with that
22:25:37	muesli-	;)
22:25:52	muesli-	where do you come from?
22:27:16	lImbus	aachen. myself beeing belgian, but working in gr, so I moved to ac
22:27:28	muesli-	_FireFly_ you?
22:27:40	muesli-	aachen..to far away from here ;-/
22:27:53	lImbus	where ?
22:28:01	_FireFly_	Weikersheim I don't think that you know it :)
22:28:03	muesli-	hameln/hannover
22:28:07	lImbus	i see
22:28:09	lImbus	(where the heck has my solder wick gone ? the fine one...)
22:28:22	muesli-	_FireFly_ no, never heard of that ;-)
22:28:53	_FireFly_	it is a small town ca 45 km away from Wuerzburg
22:29:29	muesli-	lol...my english teacher told us you'll never need the word "solder" in your life again and it appears from time to time again
22:29:40	_FireFly_	:)
22:30:26	lImbus	what to use instead of solder ? "saufen" ?
22:30:37	_FireFly_	g
22:31:04	muesli-	no, the original meaning ;)
22:32:33	lImbus	i didn't know there was anything wrong with "to solder". I didn't even know there was a second meaning
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22:34:03	muesli-	no, there's nothin wrong with that word. but my teacher indtroduced that word (as you understand it) and said the words mentioned above
22:37:39	lImbus	i c
22:44:51	muesli-	_FireFly_ ist there anything amamzing new in your last build?
22:46:15	_FireFly_	no only updated to the latest cvs :)
22:46:29	muesli-	:D
22:47:57	muesli-	your previous rls was working fine though
22:48:12	muesli-	had no lockups anymore
22:48:31	muesli-	and rwps's was working too
22:49:12	_FireFly_	the lockups was caused due that i had forgotten to bump the settings_version in settings.c
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22:50:16	_FireFly_	so if you updated to my build/patch from a other version(without my patch) then there where a inconsistent in the config
22:50:34	_FireFly_	which causes the lockup when trying to play a file
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22:51:38	muesli-	nope, i was using your build since it was on arcos hp online
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22:52:43	_FireFly_	some others had the lockups and me too after i had tried a build from TiMiD
22:53:52	muesli-	bw whats the point integrating your patch intp cvs?
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23:00:34	muesli-	gotta go..
23:00:35	_FireFly_	when TiMiDs patch gets commited to cvs then my patch is obsolete(in the current version)
23:00:36	muesli-	n8m8s
23:00:44	_FireFly_	gute nacht :)
23:00:47	muesli-	;9
23:00:47	lImbus	cu
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