| 00:00:26 | RotAtoR | preglow: ahh, I see an IRAM change from a week ago that must be the reason for the performance boost, guess I haven't been playing enough attention lately... |
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| 00:11:46 | whatboutbob | hey folks |
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| 00:12:29 | whatboutbob | was hoping someone could answer a couple of q's i have about usb transfer from h140 |
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| 00:12:40 | Bagder | try us |
| 00:13:19 | whatboutbob | i'm trying to transfer a couple of recordings from the h140 to my puter, but it seems to be introducing artifacts (clicks) |
| 00:13:56 | whatboutbob | its not the infamous glitch problem...the clicks don't seem to exist on the original on the iriver (at least I can't hear them using the exact same headphones) |
| 00:14:22 | whatboutbob | just wondering if usb is meant to be bit-perfect? |
| 00:14:27 | Bagder | it is |
| 00:14:37 | Bagder | your problem sounds very... unlikely ;-) |
| 00:15:02 | whatboutbob | possible cable buggered? |
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| 00:15:25 | Bagder | if it was, I find it unlikely that you'd only get clicks |
| 00:15:42 | whatboutbob | ahh...i've just tried it for a third time and the artifacts seem to have disappeared (at least from the one quiet song i've tested... |
| 00:16:02 | ashridah | i'd be more inclined to believe that your computer had crappy sound output. most do :) |
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| 00:16:36 | markun | whatboutbob: you could check with md5 if the file on your computer is the same as on your iriver |
| 00:16:43 | whatboutbob | ash: nah...not output...you can see it in audio catalyst. |
| 00:16:51 | ashridah | and yes, if it wasn't bit-for-bit perfect, i would have thrown my iriver in the bin last year when i got it |
| 00:16:54 | whatboutbob | markun: *slaps head* of course |
| 00:16:57 | ashridah | since that'd be basically useless |
| 00:17:17 | ashridah | markun: uh you realise that'll wind up transferring the file over usb anyway, right? |
| 00:17:27 | ashridah | whatboutbob: aah, crappy codec then. |
| 00:17:28 | markun | yes, just thought of that :) |
| 00:17:43 | markun | first make a md5 plugin for rockbox then :) |
| 00:17:47 | whatboutbob | markun: i was about to ask if there was any software to compare files...i'm such a dumb-arse...i use md5 all the time (typically with shns to...that's my excuse and i'm sticking with it) |
| 00:18:24 | whatboutbob | doh...i thought i'd be able to run the md5 on the unit itself. |
| 00:18:38 | markun | If md5 on the file on your iriver gives different results you will know there is something wrong with the usb transfer. |
| 00:19:51 | markun | shn is the shorten lossless codec, right? |
| 00:19:52 | ashridah | whatboutbob: you realise, of course, if it's the usb transfer, copying the file to your pc, and then BACK TO the iriver should result in the artifacts appearing on the new copy on the iriver, right? |
| 00:20:39 | ashridah | i'd be more inclined to believe that either a) the encoder on the iriver sucks, and the decoder manages to hide it. or b) the output stage on the iriver is smoothing out the artifacts or c) the pc's codec is similarly crappy. |
| 00:21:01 | whatboutbob | marku: correct. just to clarify...the files at issue are pcm wavs |
| 00:21:17 | markun | A friend of mine had artifacts apearing in his mp3s after he played them with winamp. A memory test showed his memory was defective. |
| 00:21:34 | whatboutbob | ash: but the transfer sometimes works...or at least removes (moves?) some of the artifacts... |
| 00:23:30 | ashridah | markun: ooh. didn't think of that. |
| 00:23:56 | whatboutbob | hrmm...my puter is pretty old...could be ram... |
| 00:24:27 | markun | ashridah: yes, I was amased this was the problem. Why would winamp corrupt the files.. it should only read them. |
| 00:24:48 | ashridah | whatboutbob: find a copy of memtest86+, write it raw to a floppy, and boot from it. |
| 00:25:01 | ashridah | markun: was it actually modifying the files? |
| 00:25:04 | markun | But he was also complaining about random crashed, so I gave him a CD with memtest86 |
| 00:25:08 | ashridah | or was it just its own buffer memory that's failing? |
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| 00:26:31 | whatboutbob | ashridah: burnt to cd ok? (no floppy drive) |
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| 00:27:14 | markun | ashridah: the artifacts remained, also some exe files go corrupt |
| 00:27:35 | markun | I thought it might be a defective HD, but with new memory he has no problems |
| 00:27:58 | markun | whatboutbob: There is also a CD iso: http://www.memtest86.com/#download0 |
| 00:28:20 | ashridah | whatboutbob: i don't know, been a while since i used memtest86+. my guess is cd is fine, since it can emulate a floppy anyway |
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| 00:30:26 | whatboutbob | thanks guys. will give it a shot and let ya know results. |
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| 00:38:01 | whatboutbob | oh, and while i'm here...some other minor probably unrelated weirdness that i've been getting...the last couple of times i've gone to record with iriver fw, i've been told 'hdd full' even tho there's like 5 gig free. am i missing something simple? |
| 00:38:54 | preglow | RotAtoR: that's right, the idata change i did sped musepack up no end |
| 00:38:56 | preglow | gone again |
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| 00:40:58 | amiconn | *found |
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| 00:53:54 | whatboutbob | brb after a memtest |
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| 00:55:59 | webguest87 | I'm having a problem after flashing my jukebox. Screen just says *panic* Stokv main. Anybody know what this is? |
| 00:56:31 | Bagder | stack overflow |
| 00:56:43 | webguest87 | what can I do about it? |
| 00:56:51 | Bagder | nothing, that is a rockbox bug |
| 00:57:21 | webguest87 | it won't start up, or connect with USB. Is this thing dead now? |
| 00:57:23 | * | Bagder runs off to bed |
| 00:57:57 | linuxstb | webguest87: Which model jukebox do you have? |
| 00:58:18 | webguest87 | fm recorder 20 |
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| 01:00:31 | linuxstb | I'm sorry, I can't help with that. |
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| 01:00:46 | webguest87 | know anybody who can? |
| 01:01:10 | linuxstb | You could try asking again here tomorrow morning (European time). Or try the rockbox mailing list. |
| 01:01:38 | webguest87 | Thanks! |
| 01:01:46 | webguest87 | I'll try back |
| 01:02:00 | linuxstb | When exactly did you get the *panic* message? Was it during the flashing process, or after you rebooted? |
| 01:03:14 | linuxstb | Also, have you read the information here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlashingRockbox |
| 01:03:15 | webguest87 | I flashed, then did the "safely remove hardware", then shut off the jukebox. It came up when I tried to start it back up. |
| 01:03:23 | amiconn | webguest87: What rockbox version did you install? Which first-time flash image did you install? |
| 01:03:59 | amiconn | Erm, and what jukebox type is it? |
| 01:04:11 | webguest87 | FM recorder 20 |
| 01:04:34 | webguest87 | 2.5 version, I just downloaded a few minutes ago |
| 01:05:45 | amiconn | You used the flash package flash_fm.zip from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlashingRockbox ? |
| 01:06:02 | webguest87 | I used the windows install |
| 01:06:20 | webguest87 | chose the FM recorder |
| 01:06:32 | amiconn | Did you run rockbox from flash before 2.5? |
| 01:07:10 | webguest87 | yes, this was to be an update for the rockbox I had before |
| 01:07:42 | amiconn | Okay, so you'll probably have the old flash image, with the archos firmware as alternate image |
| 01:08:28 | amiconn | Try the following: When the box is off, press and hold F1, then press ON to start the box |
| 01:08:45 | amiconn | It should come up with the archos firmware which will then load rockbox from disk |
| 01:09:23 | webguest87 | Looks like it's working now |
| 01:09:45 | amiconn | After normal boot, or F1-boot? |
| 01:09:53 | webguest87 | f1 boot |
| 01:10:13 | webguest87 | You saved all my music! |
| 01:10:56 | amiconn | Ok. SO F1-boot works, but normal boot doesn't? Unfortunately I can't test that exact combination. While I have a number of boxes, an FM recorder is not among them... |
| 01:11:22 | webguest87 | it'll boot up now |
| 01:11:51 | amiconn | Hmm, fishy... |
| 01:11:57 | webguest87 | looks like it's fixed and working properly now |
| 01:13:15 | webguest87 | boots up with the rockbox splash screen, says ver.cvs 050111 |
| 01:13:43 | amiconn | Hmm? That looks like an old version... |
| 01:14:29 | amiconn | The 2.5 release should display Ver. 2.5, nothing else |
| 01:14:34 | webguest87 | should I try to flash it again? |
| 01:14:47 | amiconn | Did you see the archos firmware when booting with F1? |
| 01:14:58 | webguest87 | yes, I did |
| 01:19:00 | webguest87 | I think the whole problem started when I turned off the jukebox, when it was asking me to load the new firmware. |
| 01:19:17 | amiconn | Do you always see the archos firmware when booting? |
| 01:19:22 | webguest87 | I was holding the off button without looking at what it said |
| 01:19:40 | webguest87 | no, I see the rockbox splash |
| 01:20:14 | webguest87 | it's working now, like it did before I tried to update the flash |
| 01:20:43 | amiconn | Okay, so normal boot only shows the rockbox flash (showing the version you mentioned), and starts rather fast (~ 5 seconds)? |
| 01:20:50 | webguest87 | yes |
| 01:21:08 | webguest87 | now that the *panic* stakov is gone |
| 01:21:22 | amiconn | Okay, so you have an old flash image with a cvs version in the flash, and rockbox 2.5 on disk |
| 01:22:16 | amiconn | When you start with F1, there is the rockbox splash shown after the archos firmware. What version does that show? |
| 01:23:25 | webguest87 | 2.5 |
| 01:25:11 | amiconn | Okay, so you should also put 2.5 in flash to complete your upgrade |
| 01:25:56 | webguest87 | should I just try the windows updater again? And not turn it off when it's asking me to do something else? |
| 01:26:12 | amiconn | No, you already installed 2.5 on disk |
| 01:26:18 | webguest87 | okay |
| 01:26:34 | amiconn | YOu can't flash from the outside, this has to be done on the box itself |
| 01:26:44 | webguest87 | can you walk me thru this? |
| 01:26:52 | amiconn | First F1-boot into 2.5 |
| 01:27:03 | amiconn | Then set "Show files" to "all" |
| 01:27:05 | webguest87 | okay |
| 01:27:46 | webguest87 | okay |
| 01:27:56 | amiconn | You should see a folder named ".rockbox" in the dir browser. Enter this folder, and find the file named "rockbox.ucl" |
| 01:28:23 | webguest87 | yes |
| 01:28:31 | amiconn | "Play" this file. The flash plugin comes up and "walks" you through the process |
| 01:28:56 | webguest87 | okay, Thanks! |
| 01:29:12 | amiconn | When the flash finished, you can shut down the box, and start again. |
| 01:29:26 | amiconn | It should start directly with rockbox 2.5 |
| 01:29:36 | webguest87 | Yay!!! |
| 01:31:41 | webguest87 | You've helped me fix the problem |
| 01:32:00 | webguest87 | Looks like it's working with the new version |
| 01:32:19 | webguest87 | Thanks SO MUCH for all of your help |
| 01:32:29 | hardeep | is anyone working on moving the playlist viewer to the new gui list? looks like it should be pretty straightforward |
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| 01:35:01 | Moos | never heared this here |
| 01:35:19 | preglow | Moos: wha, you've got files that actually _HANG_ the new metadata handling? |
| 01:35:42 | Moos | HD freeze yes :( |
| 01:35:47 | Moos | I sent you 2 files |
| 01:36:01 | preglow | ghah |
| 01:36:07 | preglow | dcc if you can |
| 01:36:18 | Moos | already done :) |
| 01:36:19 | preglow | i'm oging away again |
| 01:36:26 | preglow | fix it tomorrow |
| 01:36:35 | Moos | okie good night |
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| 03:48:35 | whatboutbob | ashridah, markun: memtest found a faulty ram module. I've swapped it out and am still testing, but it looks like the problem's fixed. Thanks! |
| 03:49:37 | ashridah | cool |
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| 04:22:59 | amiconn | TiMiD: Numeric settings are now properly voiced on entry, but boolean and multiple-choice settings still aren't |
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| 08:31:29 | webguest82 | hi |
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| 08:37:26 | webguest82 | What is 'Optical output'? |
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| 08:40:49 | Jungti1234 | hi i'm webguest82 |
| 08:47:58 | Jungti1234 | There is no answer anywhere. |
| 08:48:13 | Jungti1234 | I seem to be busy all. |
| 08:51:23 | Maxime | optical output is an output for "hi-fi" quality sound, using light .. |
| 08:52:32 | Jungti1234 | No one exist here? |
| 08:52:40 | Maxime | ? |
| 08:52:47 | Jungti1234 | T.T |
| 08:52:56 | Jungti1234 | Reply. |
| 08:53:07 | Maxime | i've replied |
| 08:53:50 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Trigger active'? |
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| 08:54:21 | Maxime | duno |
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| 08:55:09 | Jungti1234 | what? |
| 08:55:45 | Maxime | don't know |
| 08:55:56 | Jungti1234 | T.T ok.. |
| 08:56:27 | Jungti1234 | What work does maxime do? |
| 08:56:48 | Maxime | none |
| 08:57:00 | Maxime | i'm testing on my h120, that's all (: |
| 08:57:10 | Jungti1234 | Do A |
| 08:57:54 | Jungti1234 | I am doing Korean of H100 firmware. |
| 08:58:06 | Maxime | ah ok |
| 08:58:19 | Maxime | you want the "translation" of Optical Output and else? |
| 08:58:26 | Jungti1234 | By the way, there is no H100. haha.. |
| 08:58:41 | Maxime | lol |
| 08:58:53 | Jungti1234 | So, do not know well function. |
| 08:59:05 | Maxime | yup I understand now |
| 08:59:16 | Jungti1234 | Need explanation about function. |
| 08:59:47 | Maxime | the optical output outputs music, sounds via light, like the way "optical fiber" is used for internet .. |
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| 09:00:08 | Maxime | it's numerical, so, no loose and no interferences during "transport" of sound |
| 09:00:19 | Jungti1234 | Is it sight effect? |
| 09:00:26 | Maxime | ? |
| 09:00:55 | Maxime | it's very used for high fidelity sound, and even now in some soundcards |
| 09:01:41 | Jungti1234 | Do not understand your speech. |
| 09:02:04 | Jungti1234 | Would you talk more once, please? |
| 09:02:39 | Maxime | OPTICAL OUTPUT |
| 09:02:39 | Maxime | Digital audio optical output |
| 09:02:39 | Maxime | A digital connection that transfers multi-channel audio from your DVD player to your amplifier for decoding. Coaxial and Optical are generally considered to be equivalent in quality. |
| 09:04:57 | Jungti1234 | Do you connect and record to audio? |
| 09:05:20 | Jungti1234 | in playback settings menu |
| 09:07:11 | Maxime | personally, i do not use optical .. so can't tell how it really works .. sorry |
| 09:08:42 | Jungti1234 | Fine, be thankful. |
| 09:12:00 | Maxime | :) |
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| 09:41:55 | * | Jungti1234 ´ÔÀº ºÎÀçÁßÀ̽ʴϴÙ.(Very busy) |
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| 10:10:45 | Jungti1234 | Are you much busy all? :) |
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| 11:00:06 | preglow | yes, suddenly ape tags start working here as well, and the flaming usage of the id3v2 buffer bites me. this was bound to happen |
| 11:04:31 | linuxstb_ | Morning preglow. How have you been bitten? |
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| 11:10:33 | Webguest82 | haha |
| 11:10:47 | amiconn | mooning |
| 11:11:25 | Webguest82 | :) |
| 11:11:38 | Webguest82 | Came while play starcraft. |
| 11:12:39 | Webguest82 | Is as is anxious. |
| 11:13:25 | Webguest82 | Is no there head priest? |
| 11:17:21 | preglow | linuxstb_: by the ape tags, which also use the id3v2 buffer |
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| 11:18:03 | Webguest82 | What is 'Optical output'? |
| 11:18:04 | preglow | i think i'll just use the seekpoint buffer instead |
| 11:18:13 | preglow | Webguest82: h3x0 doesn't have optical output |
| 11:18:46 | Webguest82 | nono |
| 11:18:47 | Webguest82 | H100 |
| 11:19:23 | Webguest82 | Is working H100 firmware Korean translation. |
| 11:20:10 | Webguest82 | What is 'Optical output'? |
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| 11:21:30 | Jungti1234 | Do not I know anyone? |
| 11:22:34 | Rick | not sure how to describe it |
| 11:24:03 | Rick | Basically it uses the optical output feature of the iriver, which is a special jack/plug on the iriver |
| 11:24:04 | merbanan | digital out on optical fibre |
| 11:24:06 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Of course. The Ape parser will "reset" the id3v2 buffer. The metadata parsers are getting more and more messy in their use of the mp3entry struct. |
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| 11:26:51 | linuxstb_ | Quick gcc question - if I wanted to define a global char array and ensure that it was 32-bit aligned, how would I do it? |
| 11:30:26 | Lear | Check LINE_ATTR macro. Does 16-byte align, I think... |
| 11:30:27 | preglow | but ok |
| 11:30:53 | preglow | anyone who thinks i shouldn't use the toc array for my dealings? |
| 11:31:21 | preglow | i doubt it'll be used for musepack files |
| 11:31:41 | preglow | linuxstb_: and btw, there are tons of musepack files with id3 in them it seems... let's hope this misuse continues |
| 11:32:00 | Lear | preglow: use toc for what? |
| 11:32:09 | preglow | Lear: saving replaygain text values |
| 11:32:47 | preglow | Lear: id3v2 buffer is taken by the ape tag parser, so the musepack metadata scanner needs to use something else |
| 11:34:59 | Lear | Yes, I can see that... TOC sounds fine though. The code using it knows if the toc is needed for other stuff. |
| 11:36:39 | Lear | Perhaps the id3 tag buffers should be merged and renamed, to be more generic, and so that it can be filled from different places... |
| 11:36:42 | amiconn | linuxstb_: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/Variable-Attributes.html#Variable-Attributes |
| 11:37:50 | Lear | E.g., instead of id3v1buf and id3v2buf, have a tagbuffer and tagbuffer_used... |
| 11:37:58 | preglow | Lear: agreed |
| 11:38:21 | preglow | Lear: and while we're at it rename id3.h to tag.h or something, and id3entry to tagentry :) |
| 11:38:32 | Lear | Indeed. |
| 11:40:23 | Lear | And rather than have a global tagentry array, make it part of the file buffer (in front of each file, like the codec, and copy it if the file is larger than the buffer). :) |
| 11:42:56 | amiconn | Well, if you can do this for archos as well... :) |
| 11:43:09 | preglow | shouldn't be that hard, just a whole bunch of code to fix |
| 11:43:25 | amiconn | Apart from that I had the same idea quite some time ago (before the start of the iriver port) |
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| 11:44:06 | amiconn | On archos this will add a big problem though - the bitswap swaps the whole buffer |
| 11:45:54 | amiconn | Maybe when adapting the sw playback engine for archos - but 2 important conditions for doing don't hold yet |
| 11:46:16 | preglow | but i've fixed the musepack metadata conditions |
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| 11:46:19 | amiconn | (1) The engine should be as reliable as the current hw playback engine |
| 11:46:19 | preglow | will commit later today |
| 11:46:22 | preglow | now i'm gone |
| 11:46:29 | Webguest82 | ~ |
| 11:46:39 | amiconn | (2) One would need to understand the engine to adapt it... |
| 11:47:03 | Webguest82 | hey preglow |
| 11:47:22 | Webguest82 | That asked short time ago, do not you know? |
| 11:48:25 | linuxstb_ | or (2) One would need to understand _both_ engines to adapt it.... |
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| 11:52:50 | amiconn | linuxstb_: Yes of course. Didn't think about that part because I (mostly) understand the archos playback engine... |
| 11:55:43 | amiconn | linuxstb_: Did you perform a flac test running at 34MHz and/or 23MHz? |
| 11:55:51 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: No, not yet. |
| 11:56:13 | Jungti1234 | Can no one answer what 'Optical output' is? |
| 11:56:49 | linuxstb_ | I'm back working on my ipod today, so I think I'll start a test running on my H140 now. |
| 11:58:24 | linuxstb_ | 34MHz FLAC test just started... |
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| 12:11:46 | Jungti1234 | There is no a person who reply~ |
| 12:12:51 | linuxstb_ | 'Optical output' refers to the digital audio connector on your player |
| 12:13:02 | Jungti1234 | Oh!! Thank you. |
| 12:13:36 | linuxstb_ | no problem |
| 12:14:33 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 12:14:59 | Jungti1234 | If is fine, may I ask a question continuously? |
| 12:16:31 | solexx_ | don't ask to ask - just ask |
| 12:16:56 | Jungti1234 | By the way, there is this menu to playback setting menu, can you explain little more in detail? |
| 12:17:13 | solexx_ | be more specific! :-) |
| 12:17:41 | Jungti1234 | What do you speak? ^^; |
| 12:18:40 | solexx_ | what exactly do you want to know? |
| 12:19:03 | solexx_ | btw, there is some documentation for the archos players that explains almost every menu entry in detail |
| 12:19:21 | solexx_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.pdf |
| 12:19:27 | Jungti1234 | oh.. |
| 12:19:40 | Jungti1234 | Did not know whether is as do. |
| 12:19:50 | solexx_ | or use the wiki |
| 12:20:16 | Jungti1234 | Website of Rockbox is so difficult. |
| 12:20:18 | linuxstb_ | Jungti1234: Which player do you have? iriver or Archos? |
| 12:20:25 | Jungti1234 | iriver |
| 12:20:59 | solexx_ | Jungti1234: but the menus are almost the same for archos and iriver |
| 12:21:21 | solexx_ | so most of the archos documentation also applies to iriver |
| 12:21:49 | solexx_ | only the buttons are different |
| 12:22:11 | solexx_ | and iriver has some features that archos lacks (like optical output, as far as i know) |
| 12:22:21 | linuxstb_ | You could try this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualMainMenu |
| 12:22:51 | markun | Jungti1234: maybe you can write all the words you cannot translate in an email and send it to Dave (not you linuxstb :) , maybe he can help |
| 12:23:04 | Jungti1234 | There is no Dave. |
| 12:24:01 | markun | you have his email, right? |
| 12:24:10 | Jungti1234 | Markun, returned now. |
| 12:24:49 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 12:25:13 | Jungti1234 | But, is hard to get fast reply. |
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| 12:25:51 | Jungti1234 | Because he lives in United States of America, time becomes difference much with the South Korea. |
| 12:25:58 | markun | Well, just continue with the words you DO know, and write all the other words in a document. Then he can answer them all at once. |
| 12:26:14 | markun | Morning Moos! |
| 12:26:26 | Moos | Hi there markun |
| 12:26:30 | Jungti1234 | Is that ask a question here discourtesy? |
| 12:27:44 | markun | No, but its very hard to explain through a machine translation program :( |
| 12:28:33 | Jungti1234 | May not explain in Korean. |
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| 12:28:54 | Jungti1234 | May not explain in Korean. |
| 12:29:04 | Jungti1234 | Want to know about the function for translation. |
| 12:30:11 | Jungti1234 | I am sorry because ask a question much. ^^ |
| 12:30:50 | markun | No problem, I understand :) |
| 12:31:00 | amiconn | solexx_: The archos recorder models do have digital out, just not optical but electrical :) |
| 12:31:09 | Jungti1234 | Thank for understanding. |
| 12:31:41 | Jungti1234 | Can you connect to MSN messenger if is not busy? |
| 12:35:34 | Rick | erm |
| 12:35:42 | Rick | wouldn't a korean page on iriver tell him what it is? |
| 12:35:52 | Rick | at least, I believe iriver has a korean company |
| 12:35:56 | Rick | er, website |
| 12:36:21 | Rick | just a thought |
| 12:38:10 | Rick | http://product.iriver.co.kr/detail.asp?cateIdx=3&prdCode=h100 |
| 12:38:17 | Rick | "Optical out" section |
| 12:38:25 | Rick | has some text there |
| 12:42:47 | Rick | hopefully that will help? |
| 12:42:51 | markun | Yes, just found it as well :) |
| 12:43:42 | Rick | heh heh |
| 12:44:14 | Rick | nice site layout though |
| 12:44:20 | Rick | especially compared to the new iriver site |
| 12:44:21 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 4 seconds at the last flood |
| 12:44:21 | * | Rick gags |
| 12:44:24 | Rick | for america I mean |
| 12:46:22 | Jungti1234 | haha |
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| 12:46:40 | Jungti1234 | Rick, thank. |
| 12:46:45 | Rick | Jungti1234: it helps? |
| 12:47:04 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 12:47:14 | Jungti1234 | Such easy thing.. |
| 12:47:14 | Rick | ok :) |
| 12:47:51 | Jungti1234 | But, there are much that do not know yet. |
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| 12:48:25 | Jungti1234 | Can Rick help to me? |
| 12:48:56 | Rick | help what? |
| 12:49:30 | Jungti1234 | New iriver site are so many flash and picture. :) |
| 12:49:44 | Rick | yeah |
| 12:49:50 | Jungti1234 | Trigger active, Trigger idle |
| 12:50:03 | Jungti1234 | Do not know well these two. |
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| 13:17:48 | Jungti1234 | rick |
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| 13:43:47 | Rick | hi |
| 13:45:37 | Jungti1234 | oh. |
| 13:45:58 | Jungti1234 | Are not you busy? |
| 13:46:22 | Rick | I am a little |
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| 13:46:41 | Jungti1234 | Can you help me? |
| 13:46:48 | Rick | with what? |
| 13:46:54 | ep0ch | hello |
| 13:47:03 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 13:47:54 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Trigger idle'? |
| 13:48:10 | ep0ch | today I am going to buy a toslink cable to perform a comparison between iRiver and Rockbox sound output |
| 13:48:17 | ep0ch | but |
| 13:48:42 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 13:48:42 | ep0ch | i want to know does the volume on the iriver effect the optical out volume? |
| 13:49:29 | ep0ch | and does the dsp effect the optical output? |
| 13:49:37 | Jungti1234 | Rick: What is 'Trigger idle'? |
| 13:50:00 | ep0ch | Jungti1234: in what context? |
| 13:50:09 | Jungti1234 | recode |
| 13:51:00 | ep0ch | you lost me |
| 13:51:07 | Rick | I think he means recording |
| 13:51:50 | markun | ep0ch: The volume doesn't affect it, but the dsp does. |
| 13:52:21 | Jungti1234 | markun was looking at continuously chatting window. |
| 13:52:28 | ep0ch | cool, so i can just set bass etc. to 0 and volume is irrelavant |
| 13:52:39 | preglow | Moos: eyh, you're musepack files have been id3 tagged :/ |
| 13:52:43 | preglow | your! |
| 13:53:05 | ep0ch | markun: were you trying to get rockbox to work on FreeBSD, or was it someone else? |
| 13:53:07 | markun | Hm, bass and trebble are also done in hardware and don't affect the optical out signal. |
| 13:53:26 | markun | Yes, I'm the FreeBSD gui. |
| 13:53:48 | ep0ch | did you manage to get rockbox to compile? |
| 13:53:59 | ep0ch | if so have you got any tips? |
| 13:54:01 | ep0ch | :) |
| 13:54:10 | Jungti1234 | Rick, do not you know? |
| 13:55:32 | markun | I have to take a shower, after that I can send you a patch |
| 13:56:10 | whatboutbob | markun: oh, hey, thanks for the tip on the memtest earlier (my time). Turns out I had a dodgy ram module. Switched it out and the wav glitches disappeared. |
| 13:56:40 | Jungti1234 | hm.. |
| 13:57:50 | Jungti1234 | End to this extent. |
| 13:58:01 | Jungti1234 | I am appreciative today all. |
| 13:58:17 | Jungti1234 | Give many helps in next time. |
| 13:58:31 | Jungti1234 | bye~ |
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| 13:59:18 | Moos | Hi preglow: what? |
| 13:59:46 | preglow | Moos: the musepack files you sent me have id3 tags |
| 13:59:50 | preglow | Moos: that's why they don't work |
| 13:59:54 | preglow | Moos: but i've fixed it so they work now |
| 13:59:58 | preglow | just need to commit it |
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| 14:00:03 | Moos | ah ok |
| 14:00:33 | Moos | I use Tag & rename for tag or retag it's maybe why |
| 14:00:48 | Moos | but it saw me APE tag |
| 14:01:24 | preglow | repeat this with me, people: only id3 tags on mp3 files |
| 14:01:32 | preglow | someone tell this to the people who write tagging software |
| 14:02:08 | Moos | I know MPC files used meta data APE tag |
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| 14:02:38 | preglow | yup |
| 14:02:59 | * | linuxstb_ thinks he has ipod ata working.. |
| 14:03:05 | Moos | but with Tag & rename I saw id3 tags are'bt, it showed me APE tag, I don't understand why this :) |
| 14:03:15 | Moos | Linuxstb: congrates |
| 14:03:56 | Moos | preglow: how did you do for checked? |
| 14:03:58 | preglow | linuxstb_: woot? |
| 14:04:13 | preglow | Moos: i just opened it in a text editor and saw that ID3 was the first thing in the file |
| 14:04:37 | preglow | Moos: but don't worry, musepack will support this in rockbox |
| 14:04:38 | Moos | oki; didn't thought about ths |
| 14:04:42 | Moos | this |
| 14:04:48 | Moos | Great :) |
| 14:07:19 | preglow | what really happens if get_metadata returns false? |
| 14:07:49 | Moos | oops Lear gone :) |
| 14:09:32 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I think the technical term is "undefined". This needs fixing in playback.c |
| 14:09:46 | linuxstb_ | It's not consistently checked. |
| 14:10:04 | linuxstb_ | My intention is that if get_metadata() returns false, then the file should be considered unplayable by Rockbox. |
| 14:10:35 | preglow | linuxstb_: yes, that's what i think as well |
| 14:10:40 | preglow | linuxstb_: but it did something wildly different |
| 14:10:46 | preglow | i was note quite what it did |
| 14:10:50 | preglow | quite sure |
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| 14:13:04 | linuxstb_ | get_metadata() is called in various places in playback.c and sometimes the return code is ignored. |
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| 14:13:25 | preglow | nice |
| 14:13:28 | preglow | btw |
| 14:13:36 | preglow | how do i get the file position in rockbox? |
| 14:14:49 | ep0ch | markun: ty |
| 14:15:17 | preglow | forget it, i don't need it |
| 14:15:53 | ep0ch | markun: oops it died |
| 14:16:21 | preglow | SEEK_CUR can use negative offsets, yes? |
| 14:20:03 | linuxstb_ | Celebratory photo: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodboot.jpg |
| 14:20:08 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I would hope so. |
| 14:21:02 | preglow | linuxstb_: excellent! congrats! |
| 14:21:26 | ashridah | linuxstb_: good god man, my eyes, the fuzziness! |
| 14:21:38 | linuxstb_ | Yes, sorry about the photo quality... |
| 14:21:46 | preglow | who can complain about focus at a time like this! |
| 14:21:50 | markun | ep0ch: I sent it again |
| 14:21:50 | ashridah | me |
| 14:22:00 | ashridah | since i dislike ipods in general |
| 14:22:14 | ep0ch | markun: yeah its not happy |
| 14:22:15 | preglow | if you dislike an ipod with rockbox on it, you should be ashamed |
| 14:22:29 | ep0ch | markun: mail it to djb@gofree.co.uk please |
| 14:22:31 | markun | linuxstb_: great progress! |
| 14:22:31 | uski | what ??? |
| 14:22:34 | uski | rockbox on ipod ?? |
| 14:22:36 | ashridah | preglow: the audio quality on them isn't too great. |
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| 14:23:15 | preglow | linuxstb_: do you think this is front page material? i do :P |
| 14:23:20 | preglow | but perhaps it's better not to |
| 14:23:21 | uski | omfg |
| 14:23:32 | amiconn | linuxstb_: Wow, congrats! |
| 14:23:40 | muesli_- | re |
| 14:24:57 | amiconn | Btw, I know this feeling: amiconn.dyndns.org/FlashAccess.jpg">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/FlashAccess.jpg <= First working MMC access on Ondio, approximately a year ago... |
| 14:25:20 | linuxstb_ | I now need to test if the fat driver is working properly - so the bootloader is actually capable of loading something. But the raw ata_read_sectors() appears to work |
| 14:26:07 | amiconn | Took me almost a month to get this working... I didn't need it for booting rockbox itself, that was fortunately done by the builtin archos firmware |
| 14:26:32 | ghode|afk | linuxstb_: you really know how to make the h300 users jealous :p |
| 14:26:41 | ep0ch | markun: thanks, got it this time, i'll try it later on |
| 14:28:21 | amiconn | I think the site should have a gallery for keeping such "milestone" pictures |
| 14:29:14 | preglow | amiconn: indeed |
| 14:29:57 | preglow | linuxstb_: let us know how your effort fares, i'm very interested in hearing about it |
| 14:30:06 | muesli_- | are you talking about rbx on ipod? |
| 14:31:17 | uski | they seem to be ! |
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| 14:32:39 | lamed | hello everyone. |
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| 14:33:45 | lamed | I'm having serious problems with making a patchfile (!!!). I guess that something changed to CRLF newline when i wasn't looking. how am I changing that? |
| 14:35:27 | preglow | i didn't think i was ever going to ask this, but does anyone know how i id3v2 tag a flac file? |
| 14:35:45 | linuxstb_ | preglow: No, but I have an example. |
| 14:36:23 | preglow | linuxstb_: good, i've just put your flac id3 skipping code in a separate function for general use |
| 14:36:32 | preglow | and want to see if it works before i commit |
| 14:36:49 | linuxstb_ | I can't test it myself - my H140 is running a FLAC playback time test ATM. |
| 14:37:32 | preglow | know |
| 14:37:47 | linuxstb_ | I'm uploading my test file now. |
| 14:38:29 | lamed | any help with the silly newline problem? |
| 14:38:32 | preglow | goodie |
| 14:38:46 | preglow | lamed: depends on your editor |
| 14:39:00 | linuxstb_ | preglow: One thing to note - the getid3v2len function seeks to the start of the file - see firmware/id3.c |
| 14:39:17 | preglow | linuxstb_: i know, but id3v2 tags should always be at the start of the file |
| 14:39:32 | preglow | linuxstb_: if they're not, then hell, we don't need to worry about them |
| 14:39:42 | linuxstb_ | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/id3example.flac |
| 14:39:45 | preglow | linuxstb_: thanks |
| 14:43:04 | lamed | preglow: i'll look. (dev-c ) |
| 14:43:15 | preglow | rockbox screws up royally on get_metadata false |
| 14:43:19 | preglow | this should not be |
| 14:44:58 | preglow | it actually locked up my unit |
| 14:48:09 | lamed | ... isn't there a simple way to check what newline is it? it looks like dev-c don't give a rats eye about newlines. it opens both of them and don't let you mess with it too much. but when I try to diff a file and it's origin, I get a huge patchfile contaning both files. (sounds like it is a newline problem?) |
| 14:48:54 | linuxstb_ | Well, open() and filesize() seem to work :) |
| 14:49:30 | linuxstb_ | Next test - load the ipodlinux kernel from disk and run it. |
| 14:51:25 | * | preglow crosses fingers |
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| 14:57:50 | linuxstb_ | Kernel loaded... :) |
| 14:58:14 | preglow | Moos: there, commited |
| 14:58:22 | preglow | linuxstb_: it works fine? |
| 14:59:09 | Moos | ok, I will test and give you feed backs |
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| 15:00:08 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Yes, it appears to. I copied the kernel to the FAT32 partition, and my bootloader can load and run it. |
| 15:00:32 | linuxstb_ | I guess it's time to clean it up and start committing to CVS. Now the real work starts. |
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| 15:01:02 | Moos | linuxstb: congratulations again |
| 15:01:13 | preglow | linuxstb_: excellent, excellent |
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| 15:03:26 | preglow | linuxstb_: to what degree does your ipod model work with ipodlinux? |
| 15:04:12 | linuxstb_ | It should work perfectly, but I think there are still some bugs in the LCD driver used by podzilla. |
| 15:05:12 | linuxstb_ | The major limitation of IPL is that there is no usb mode. As far as I can tell, this is done in software by the Apple firmware. But I think usb detection works, so this forces a reboot. |
| 15:06:10 | linuxstb_ | Got to go now. bbl. |
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| 15:08:07 | preglow | the fact that all apps use their own driver impresses me no end |
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| 15:27:00 | lamed | yes... it's definetly a newline problem. now I only have to find out how to change styles. |
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| 15:40:09 | lamed | ok ok here it is, just for anyone to might have this problem, i'll add this to the documentaion as well, dos2unix and unix2dos are the tools for the newlines problem. |
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| 15:45:34 | amiconn | linuxstb_: For USB, as soon as you have the detection working, and a reboot function, you simply need to undefine USB_REALLY_BRAVE in usb.c. Then usb detection will cause rockbox to reboot the box |
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| 15:53:30 | tucoz | linuxstb: congratulations. Man, I want an ipod now. |
| 15:54:08 | linuxstb__ | There's still a long way to go, but it's looking promising. |
| 15:54:32 | tucoz | Yes, I understand that. |
| 15:54:48 | preglow | nothing like the h1x0 port, i'm sure |
| 15:54:55 | preglow | at least we've got software codecs now |
| 15:55:24 | linuxstb__ | The cool thing is that the Nano is almost identical to my 60GB photo. So it would be trivial to port what I've done so far to a Nano. |
| 15:55:35 | preglow | then hooray, says preglow |
| 15:55:38 | preglow | for he intends to get one |
| 15:55:44 | tucoz | Regarding a Milestone page, that is a really good idea. It would be interesting at least to read about the major clashes in rockbox history |
| 15:56:30 | tucoz | Seems like Bagder have been thinking about this. http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0583.shtml |
| 15:57:09 | tucoz | the nano looks very neat. |
| 15:57:23 | tucoz | especially with Rockbox on it :) |
| 15:57:25 | preglow | it's small and it's got an ipod interface |
| 15:57:41 | preglow | i've been wanting a flash based player for a while |
| 15:57:51 | tucoz | interface as in looks or as in ui? |
| 15:57:55 | lamed | could someone offer me a nice trick to run a specific command recursively on every folder in the root folder? I mean dos2unix don't have a -recursion switch. |
| 15:57:57 | preglow | the scrollwheel |
| 15:58:06 | preglow | the ipod looks don't tickle me much |
| 15:58:13 | ep0ch | lamed: use find |
| 15:58:23 | lamed | thanks i'll look into |
| 15:58:33 | tucoz | nah, they are cool enough. But the looks of them are like a piece of soap. |
| 15:58:35 | linuxstb__ | lamed: Or use wildcards - e.g. dos2unix * */* */*/* |
| 15:58:44 | ep0ch | lamed: find . -type f -exec dos2unix {} \; |
| 15:58:49 | ep0ch | or something |
| 15:58:57 | linuxstb__ | I agree - the bars of soap are now looking very dated. |
| 15:59:38 | lamed | but dos2unix * */* */*/* wouldn't go through the whole tree, right? |
| 15:59:49 | tucoz | linuxstb__: You picture of your ipod is still the prettiest ipod I have seen :) |
| 15:59:52 | _FireFly_ | better find . -type f -exec dos2unix '{}' ';' |
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| 16:00:09 | linuxstb__ | It would if your wildcards cover enough levels. Find is better, but I find wildcards quicker to type |
| 16:00:34 | ep0ch | i've got optical outputs of an mp3 from iriver, rockbox and foobar. can't hear a difference, but my ears arent exactly the best |
| 16:01:00 | linuxstb__ | tucoz: Yes, but the last line of text is sad. |
| 16:01:13 | preglow | ok, seems me order 10 unrolled thingie is ready for commiting |
| 16:01:31 | tucoz | linuxstb__: but the rest is funky |
| 16:01:37 | tucoz | gtg, bye |
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| 16:01:41 | linuxstb__ | preglow: Stop making my FLAC tests obsolete before I finish them :) |
| 16:01:47 | preglow | linuxstb__: i was thinking about that, hehe |
| 16:02:12 | preglow | i can't make it vomit noise anymore, at least |
| 16:02:27 | linuxstb__ | Your challenge is to make it run at 23.5MHz without boosting. |
| 16:02:33 | ep0ch | no 11! |
| 16:02:53 | preglow | linuxstb__: we'll see, i'm planning on optimising the default case |
| 16:03:02 | preglow | linuxstb__: to make it eat eight coefs at a time |
| 16:03:09 | preglow | which MIGHT help some, but i'm doubtful it'll help that much |
| 16:03:31 | lamed | how do i stop the screen before it throws up the begginging? like when grep −−help? |
| 16:03:55 | _FireFly_ | lamed: ?? |
| 16:03:55 | lamed | beginning... |
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| 16:04:04 | lamed | yeah? |
| 16:04:18 | | Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 16:04:37 | lamed | when you type grep −−help you can't read everything unless you are superman. what's the command to stop the screen... |
| 16:05:03 | ep0ch | pipe it into more? |
| 16:05:09 | _FireFly_ | or less :) |
| 16:05:18 | ep0ch | grep −−help | more (or less) |
| 16:05:34 | preglow | linuxstb__: you should include battery type on the runtime wiki page |
| 16:06:10 | Moos | preglow: just back, I tested your last changes |
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| 16:06:25 | lamed | great.. |
| 16:06:31 | ep0ch | has anyone done optical output comparisons between rockbox and iriver yet? |
| 16:06:57 | ep0ch | i wanna know if i'm wasting my time :) |
| 16:07:41 | _FireFly_ | afaik nobody yet |
| 16:07:47 | preglow | Moos: works? |
| 16:08:02 | preglow | ep0ch: none that i know of |
| 16:08:12 | Moos | preglow: bitrate and track number info are good for all my musepack files, but for other infos, few files it's well, but others just bitrate and track nbr ibfo, others infos are'nt showed |
| 16:08:29 | Moos | don't know work, but if you want I send you files |
| 16:08:32 | Moos | I can |
| 16:08:32 | preglow | ep0ch: and i'd be interested in seeing the results and the deocded files |
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| 16:08:45 | ep0ch | good i'll put the outputs somewhere, just need to find a suitable Vorbis tune now |
| 16:08:57 | preglow | ep0ch: if you could try mp3 as well, that would rock |
| 16:09:07 | ep0ch | mp3 outputs are done |
| 16:09:17 | preglow | ep0ch: don't need enormous wav files, just small snippets |
| 16:09:31 | ep0ch | heh they are 4.30 min flac files atm |
| 16:09:40 | preglow | will do fine for my sake |
| 16:09:46 | preglow | Moos: you mean like title and artist? |
| 16:09:57 | Moos | yes :) |
| 16:09:58 | ep0ch | no idea how to do a proper comparison though |
| 16:10:06 | Moos | infos mised |
| 16:10:13 | preglow | Moos: are you sure those files have ape tags? that's all musepack on iriver supports at the moment |
| 16:10:21 | preglow | ep0ch: i can do that part |
| 16:10:28 | ep0ch | cool |
| 16:10:36 | ep0ch | can i ask how you would do it? |
| 16:10:50 | preglow | sure, i'll just load both of them into adobe audition and have a look at the waveform and spectrum |
| 16:10:58 | preglow | subtract them from each other and see the errors that remain, etc |
| 16:11:04 | ep0ch | oh yeah! |
| 16:11:16 | Moos | preglow: tag é rename shows me the APE tags yes |
| 16:11:24 | ep0ch | i forgott about subtracting :) |
| 16:11:25 | Moos | s/é/& |
| 16:11:48 | preglow | Moos: weird, can i have one of them? |
| 16:12:00 | Moos | yes sure |
| 16:12:26 | Moos | ... if you still have got files sent you |
| 16:12:37 | Moos | they are exemples |
| 16:13:13 | Moos | in my units those files in exemple doesn't show the metadata infos |
| 16:13:52 | Moos | I see this fastly, because I use the "next son infos" WPS screen info |
| 16:14:52 | _FireFly_ | Moos: windows or linux ?? |
| 16:14:55 | Moos | but I've got too files with all infos, but those ones, showed me all infos even you begin to touch the metadata parser thing |
| 16:15:00 | Moos | windows :) |
| 16:15:12 | _FireFly_ | oh |
| 16:15:22 | _FireFly_ | so my tip wont work :) |
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| 16:15:46 | Moos | this just for musepack |
| 16:17:18 | Moos | preglow: the good thing that those 2 exemples files doesn't played at all yesterday |
| 16:17:28 | Moos | now just infos missed |
| 16:17:38 | _FireFly_ | Moos: do you have a tag-tool which can only id3-tags ?? |
| 16:18:01 | _FireFly_ | then you could try if this tool show some tag-infos from this files |
| 16:18:03 | Moos | I use exclusively Tag&Rename for windows |
| 16:18:28 | Moos | foobar show me those metadata too :) |
| 16:19:04 | _FireFly_ | say it also if the meta are ape or id3 tags ?? |
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| 16:20:08 | Moos | aparently preglow said me those files are id3 tags, but I didn't know id3 tags concerned MPC too |
| 16:20:36 | Moos | in tag&rename it show me APE v2 |
| 16:21:23 | _FireFly_ | maybe tag&rename doesn't propably clean out the id3-tags |
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| 16:21:39 | linuxstb | preglow: How should I refer to the different possible batteries in a H1x0 on the runtime wiki page? I've just got the standard factory installed one. |
| 16:22:11 | Moos | possible yes, I can try with other identity files editor, I'll just try foobar for see |
| 16:22:41 | _FireFly_ | http://www.mp3tag.de/download.html |
| 16:22:50 | _FireFly_ | maybe this is better |
| 16:23:04 | Moos | I'll try :) |
| 16:23:39 | _FireFly_ | i havn't test this tool because i'm mainly under linux :) |
| 16:23:51 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 16:24:02 | _FireFly_ | but the feature list looks good |
| 16:24:07 | Moos | god father is good too |
| 16:27:11 | Moos | that show me ID3 v1 (ID3v1 ID3v2 and APE v2) |
| 16:27:35 | Moos | preglow maybe APE v2 tag not known by the parser? |
| 16:28:22 | _FireFly_ | or it took only the first tag-type it found |
| 16:28:23 | _FireFly_ | s |
| 16:33:26 | Moos | no isn't APE v2 tag thing |
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| 16:34:17 | Moos | I just test ine of my files working pretty well with Rockbox and that show me APE v2 tag |
| 16:34:30 | Moos | only not ID3 v1 |
| 16:35:05 | Moos | this is this ID3 tag info the cause |
| 16:35:16 | Moos | hope in preglow :) |
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| 16:40:17 | preglow | brb, cooking dinner |
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| 16:46:19 | lamed | can h100 remote handle on button ? |
| 16:46:32 | lamed | on <plus> button? |
| 16:53:23 | lamed | seems like it doesn't react on it. |
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| 16:56:12 | _FireFly_ | lamed: what do you mean ?? |
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| 17:04:25 | lamed | i'm trying to bind ON <plus> |<< and ON <plus> >>| no luck so far, but i recall this should work |
| 17:06:20 | lamed | ~/rockbox>cvs update -dP |
| 17:06:24 | lamed | cvs update: No CVSROOT specified! |
| 17:06:35 | lamed | _firefly_ help? |
| 17:06:59 | _FireFly_ | have you a cvs-dir in ~/rockbox ?? |
| 17:07:14 | lamed | argh. damn. |
| 17:07:16 | lamed | thanks |
| 17:07:22 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 17:08:31 | lamed | can i make it without redownloading a fresh rockbox-dev package? |
| 17:08:37 | lamed | (build the cvs dir) |
| 17:09:16 | Moos | preglow: you there? |
| 17:09:38 | _FireFly_ | you could try to export the CVSROOT |
| 17:11:07 | lamed | ?? |
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| 17:12:23 | lamed | _firefly_: how do i do that..? |
| 17:12:43 | _FireFly_ | export CVSROOT=... |
| 17:13:18 | _FireFly_ | or spezifie directly after cvs this: -d:pserver:username@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox |
| 17:13:29 | _FireFly_ | ups i mean this -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 17:13:43 | _FireFly_ | e.g. cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox update -db |
| 17:13:45 | _FireFly_ | e.g. cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox update -dp |
| 17:14:03 | _FireFly_ | s/-dp/-dP |
| 17:17:00 | lamed | cvs is so increadibly slow. |
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| 17:22:52 | RotAtoR | To any devs who are awake: I'm planning to commit my bejeweled plugin soon and I want to check here to make sure that I don't muck up or forget anything on my first commit |
| 17:23:01 | RotAtoR | I've added the standard rockbox source header to the new file and added an appropriate entry in the plugins SOURCES file |
| 17:23:12 | RotAtoR | Then I need to do a cvs add on the new file and then commit both, right? |
| 17:23:17 | muesli- | cheers RotAtoR ;) |
| 17:23:17 | RotAtoR | Am I missing anything? |
| 17:23:24 | RotAtoR | :) |
| 17:24:09 | preglow | Moos: i'm a bit busy |
| 17:24:54 | Moos | don't worries, I did just noticed one litle thing |
| 17:25:40 | preglow | what then? |
| 17:26:00 | preglow | RotAtoR: that should do it, yes |
| 17:26:12 | preglow | Moos: i've got the files, yes |
| 17:26:59 | Moos | I tried new tager software, it show me metadata better |
| 17:27:24 | RotAtoR | ok, then time to commit :) |
| 17:27:38 | _FireFly_ | Moos: :) |
| 17:27:46 | Moos | and I tried to change the current ID3 tags to APE v2 tag |
| 17:27:58 | Moos | FireFly: :) |
| 17:28:13 | _FireFly_ | and any success ?? |
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| 17:29:19 | Moos | when I played it that worst, because after tag conversion album and artist info are missed from WPS screen |
| 17:30:00 | linuxstb_ | RotAtoR: Does your plugin compile cleanly for all targets and all simulators? |
| 17:30:33 | Moos | I noticed with this that for all my musepack files artist and album are in the WPS screen, but not in the ID context menu and so in the "next song" info |
| 17:30:55 | Moos | RotAtoR: cool |
| 17:33:27 | RotAtoR | linuxstb: yes, i tested all targets |
| 17:33:32 | RotAtoR | and sims |
| 17:33:46 | Moos | go go go :) |
| 17:34:09 | Moos | (I already use your forum version) |
| 17:34:16 | Moos | fine plugin |
| 17:35:12 | linuxstb_ | RotAtoR: Then commit :) |
| 17:35:44 | RotAtoR | ok :) |
| 17:35:44 | preglow | Moos: yeah, i see they've got both id3 and ape |
| 17:35:50 | preglow | Moos: but i've got no idea why it doesn't display |
| 17:36:23 | Moos | but when I remove them and change for APE v2 tag, it's worst |
| 17:36:28 | preglow | how? |
| 17:36:39 | Moos | nothing in WPS screen artist album |
| 17:36:53 | preglow | well, i've got no idea how ape works |
| 17:37:26 | Moos | the strange thing, is the album and artist info are both in WPS screen but not in the "show ID" context menu |
| 17:37:36 | preglow | oh? |
| 17:37:58 | Moos | it's why isn't in next song WPS info |
| 17:38:17 | Moos | yes strange |
| 17:38:42 | Moos | pitty Lear isn't here for help a bit :) |
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| 17:55:45 | RotAtoR | hmm, i had previously checked out rockbox as anonymous, so now i checked it out with my username and for some reason the uisimulator directory does not get checked out |
| 17:57:51 | linuxstb_ | Just type "cvs co uisimulator" - from the directory containing apps, firmware etc |
| 17:58:14 | RotAtoR | ok, thanks |
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| 18:11:27 | RotAtoR | umm, how do i work this comment editor that appears on cvs commit? :o |
| 18:13:45 | TiMiD | cvs commit -"blablabla" ? |
| 18:13:52 | TiMiD | -m "..." |
| 18:14:26 | preglow | you also get booted into your usual editor if you don't leave a comment on the command line |
| 18:14:34 | preglow | just do cvs commit filename |
| 18:14:40 | preglow | and enter the comment when it tells you to |
| 18:14:49 | preglow | right, what editor is it? |
| 18:14:50 | RotAtoR | ahh, this must be vi then, which i never use ;) |
| 18:14:54 | preglow | right |
| 18:14:57 | preglow | just press 'i' to enter text |
| 18:15:09 | preglow | then escape when you're done, then type :wq |
| 18:15:23 | preglow | including the colon |
| 18:15:25 | RotAtoR | i'll have to try an remember all those silly vi commands ;) |
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| 18:15:38 | * | preglow fondles vim |
| 18:15:40 | RotAtoR | thanks |
| 18:16:05 | sneakums | on iriver with current builds, do i need to do anything special to get stuff to happen with the remote |
| 18:16:18 | sneakums | the buttons work, but the screen just lights up, it doesn't display anything |
| 18:16:20 | preglow | sneakums: no |
| 18:16:25 | preglow | sneakums: well, it should |
| 18:16:33 | sneakums | hmm, strange |
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| 18:16:37 | _FireFly_ | RotAtoR: or export the EDITOR var with your favourite editor |
| 18:16:39 | preglow | sneakums: are you certain you're using a daily build? |
| 18:16:43 | ehntoo | sneakums: does it even display the file tree? |
| 18:16:53 | _FireFly_ | RotAtoR: e.g. export EDITOR=nano |
| 18:16:59 | sneakums | i built it myself |
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| 18:17:01 | RotAtoR | i'm using cygwin and always use an external editor, never use any of the editors that are included in cygwin |
| 18:17:03 | _FireFly_ | before cvs commit |
| 18:17:20 | RotAtoR | _FireFly_: thanks, i'll try that |
| 18:17:44 | sneakums | and cvs up's output matches the changes mentioned on rockbox.org's tracker, so i think i'm pulling the right stuff |
| 18:18:03 | ehntoo | sneakums: do you get a file tree? |
| 18:18:27 | sneakums | not on the remote |
| 18:18:28 | sneakums | it's blank |
| 18:18:43 | ehntoo | try a daily build |
| 18:18:44 | sneakums | i tried the iriver firmware and it works there, so it's probably not a hardware problem |
| 18:18:46 | _FireFly_ | hmm then it isn't init correctly |
| 18:19:07 | sneakums | i'll grab a daily from rockbox.org, but i haven't had any other problrms with my builds |
| 18:19:16 | _FireFly_ | unplug it and replug it again |
| 18:19:24 | sneakums | tried tha a few times |
| 18:19:32 | _FireFly_ | at least on boot the rockbox logo should be shown on the remote |
| 18:19:36 | sneakums | no logo |
| 18:19:52 | sneakums | it showing the logo a while back, i assumed it was to do with the ongoing remote work |
| 18:19:54 | RotAtoR | yay!, "Build expected to complete around 17:33:22" |
| 18:20:25 | TiMiD | sneakums: what about the contrast of the remote ? |
| 18:20:34 | _FireFly_ | it should be 42 |
| 18:20:58 | sneakums | boy is my face red |
| 18:20:59 | sneakums | it was 21 |
| 18:21:03 | sneakums | i can see stuff now |
| 18:21:05 | preglow | RotAtoR: looks like that went smooth |
| 18:21:06 | ehntoo | heh |
| 18:21:06 | _FireFly_ | :) |
| 18:21:19 | TiMiD | :p |
| 18:22:15 | sneakums | any plans to wire up the rocker labelled 'volume' to the volume control? |
| 18:22:47 | TiMiD | yep |
| 18:22:56 | TiMiD | I'm currently working on it |
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| 18:22:59 | key2 | hi |
| 18:23:01 | sneakums | cool |
| 18:23:07 | TiMiD | the settings code is very messy |
| 18:23:09 | key2 | anyone has some experiances with Verilog here ? |
| 18:23:25 | key2 | !seen mattzz |
| 18:26:31 | sneakums | it looks good, and thanks for the help! |
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| 18:27:03 | TiMiD | sounds settings are working :) |
| 18:27:21 | TiMiD | maybe I will commit after some deeper tests |
| 18:27:26 | _FireFly_ | :) |
| 18:28:08 | TiMiD | but I truly think that themenus arch is very heavy and bloated :( |
| 18:28:23 | TiMiD | everything is hardcoded |
| 18:39:41 | preglow | anyone here with a ton of flac files who want to test a flac.codec for me? |
| 18:41:25 | ehntoo | I've got a couple albums. |
| 18:41:47 | ehntoo | if I can find my iRiver, that is. |
| 18:41:48 | preglow | i probably forgot to mention -8 encoded albums are most helpful |
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| 18:43:28 | RotAtoR | i have a ton of flac -8 files |
| 18:43:38 | preglow | www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/flac.codec |
| 18:43:46 | preglow | be a bit careful, it _might_ breaj |
| 18:43:47 | preglow | break |
| 18:43:50 | RotAtoR | ok |
| 18:43:53 | preglow | that's what i'm trying to find out after all |
| 18:44:02 | preglow | so don't go full volume |
| 18:44:17 | preglow | i've tried it on the files i have, and it works ok |
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| 18:47:10 | preglow | what do you guys think, btw, should i leave seeking enabled for musepack files, or disable it? |
| 18:47:23 | preglow | it's so slow several people have thought their unit was hanging |
| 18:47:33 | lamed | I'm making a patch, do you mind a global_settings value in a driver? |
| 18:47:34 | * | lamed crosses fingers... |
| 18:48:54 | RotAtoR | preglow: no problems so far on a dozen or so various tracks I tried |
| 18:50:49 | preglow | RotAtoR: think i'll call it good and commit it then, thanks a bunch |
| 18:51:40 | preglow | lamed: what would you use a setting for in a driver? |
| 18:53:51 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Does seeking to the start of a musepack file work quickly? That's needed when you try and skip to the previous track. |
| 18:54:20 | linuxstb_ | If seeking is really that bad, I would disable it - but keep the special case of seeking to the beginning. |
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| 18:55:32 | preglow | linuxstb_: looks like that's instant, yes |
| 18:57:24 | preglow | ok, but now i'll go back to work on the 64 bit optimised case |
| 18:57:43 | TiMiD | is it any reason why all sounds accessors are in the same sound_set function |
| 18:58:05 | TiMiD | instead of being in separate fn like sound_set_vol, sound_set_bass, .. |
| 18:58:06 | TiMiD | ? |
| 18:58:27 | TiMiD | I'talking about sound.c in firmware |
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| 19:00:06 | Moos | hi TiMiD |
| 19:00:08 | lamed | preglow: it has to check if some option is enabled or disabled to know how to display a textline, if the user wants it to scroll out of the screen or not. I guess i can put it elsewhere but i'm not sure where. |
| 19:00:24 | Moos | preglow: seeking is definitively bugish here yes |
| 19:00:33 | preglow | Moos: it's not bugish, it's just slow |
| 19:00:40 | preglow | Moos: musepack doesn't support fast seeking |
| 19:00:41 | TiMiD | hi Moos |
| 19:00:59 | lamed | mainly the patch works on the gui_list widget, so i might put a new function there.. not sure though. |
| 19:01:20 | Moos | preglow: here: freeze spining down or spining and restart at begin start |
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| 19:01:37 | TiMiD | lamed: what do you want to add to gui_list ? |
| 19:01:52 | Moos | preglow: would you like files? |
| 19:04:13 | Moos | any tracks from my various musepack albums seek good |
| 19:04:31 | Moos | I'' try to reset seting, in case... |
| 19:05:38 | preglow | Moos: i can't do anything to fix seeking |
| 19:05:55 | Moos | I never sais you that :) |
| 19:06:13 | Moos | just you evocated to temporary disable it |
| 19:06:25 | Moos | I think is a good idea :) |
| 19:06:44 | preglow | not temporarily |
| 19:06:47 | preglow | it'll never be enabled |
| 19:06:57 | preglow | the current musepack format will never support fast seeking |
| 19:07:20 | Moos | I undestood this :) |
| 19:07:30 | Moos | isn't complaint |
| 19:08:11 | preglow | sure, i know, just making sure you know |
| 19:08:21 | Moos | hehe thanks |
| 19:08:23 | preglow | if musepack sv8 ever comes, you'll have seeking |
| 19:08:30 | Moos | we hope so |
| 19:09:16 | Moos | about your commit of few hours ago, logs says:" Added ID3v2 skipping for Musepack files" |
| 19:09:23 | preglow | yes |
| 19:10:02 | Moos | what about ID3 v1, the problematics info files are in ID3 v1 |
| 19:10:12 | preglow | so they have that, do they |
| 19:10:21 | preglow | no wonder they don't display ape tags, then |
| 19:10:29 | preglow | so in short, they have id3v1, id3v2 _AND_ apev2? :PPP |
| 19:10:35 | ep0ch | preglow: opticalout for mp3 and vorbis are here: ep0ch.com/html/listdir.shtml?dir=/Rockbox/OpticalOut">http://www.ep0ch.com/html/listdir.shtml?dir=/Rockbox/OpticalOut |
| 19:10:51 | preglow | ep0ch: will try to have a look at now |
| 19:10:52 | Moos | id3 tags are missed here |
| 19:11:16 | ep0ch | they all look the same to me |
| 19:11:33 | ep0ch | they're recorded at 16bit |
| 19:11:35 | preglow | ep0ch: yes, you need to do more than look ;) |
| 19:12:06 | ep0ch | well i zoomed in and the waveforms had the same shape, so i guess it would sound the same :) |
| 19:13:39 | Moos | preglow: when I look in details the problematics files tags that show me ID3 v1 (ID3v1 ID3v2 and APE v2) |
| 19:14:33 | Moos | and those tags apear doesn't suported currently by Rockbox |
| 19:15:15 | preglow | Moos: never tag _anything_ but mp3 files with id3 |
| 19:15:21 | preglow | Moos: just remove it, and you'll have no troubles |
| 19:15:31 | Moos | I tried this |
| 19:15:36 | preglow | Moos: the ape reader doesn't currently strip away id3v1 |
| 19:15:45 | preglow | i might fix that some day, but i don't like doing it ;) |
| 19:15:47 | Moos | replace them in APE v2 tag but this worst :) |
| 19:15:55 | Moos | *replaced |
| 19:16:20 | Moos | maybe time to try still an other good software tager |
| 19:16:29 | Moos | maybe that could help |
| 19:16:46 | _FireFly_ | if you where under linux easytag were a good choice ;) |
| 19:16:47 | preglow | what do you use? |
| 19:17:07 | Moos | preglow: want you for see 1 file taged APE v2 not suported by Rockbox for exemple ? |
| 19:17:32 | lamed | Timid: i was away on the phone sorry for not answering it's just that i've got a date... with my ARMY OFFICER!! seriously. she's gorgeous! |
| 19:17:46 | preglow | Moos: sure |
| 19:18:21 | Moos | I use ordinary tag & rename, but I tried one proposed by FireFly "MP3tag" |
| 19:18:35 | TiMiD | lamed: congratulation =) |
| 19:19:12 | preglow | ep0ch: very, very small differences between iriver and rockbox mp3 |
| 19:19:15 | preglow | ep0ch: almost non-existent |
| 19:19:23 | preglow | ep0ch: btw, it looks like you've got some dropout going on |
| 19:19:26 | lamed | :D |
| 19:19:28 | preglow | ep0ch: i get single-sample spikes here |
| 19:19:39 | ep0ch | on the mp3 one? |
| 19:19:56 | preglow | yes |
| 19:20:00 | ep0ch | all files? |
| 19:20:01 | TiMiD | anyone has an answer about sound_set ? |
| 19:20:07 | preglow | ep0ch: haven't leeched vorbis ones yet |
| 19:20:49 | ep0ch | wierd, what could cause dropouts |
| 19:20:49 | preglow | TiMiD: there are functions for all the other ones as well, i just believe sound_set is what combines them into a few parameters and passes to the codec chip |
| 19:21:09 | preglow | ep0ch: rockbox bugs? iriver bugs? soundcard bugs? |
| 19:21:15 | ep0ch | oh ok |
| 19:21:33 | TiMiD | preglow: no, all the work is done in one big function |
| 19:21:34 | preglow | i haven't compared with foobar yet, to see which of them is wrong |
| 19:22:11 | TiMiD | it's a little ugly |
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| 19:23:14 | Moos | preglow: I just test again with one file already sent you and I retaged it to APE v2 instead of ID3 v1 |
| 19:23:22 | Moos | and doesn't work |
| 19:23:38 | Moos | I'll send you this, what's your mail? |
| 19:23:47 | preglow | ep0ch: interesting results with the vorbis case |
| 19:24:07 | ep0ch | why's that? |
| 19:24:25 | ep0ch | you're using adobe here? |
| 19:24:29 | preglow | even more dropouts and entire segment of audio that's weird |
| 19:24:33 | preglow | but i've got to go for a sec |
| 19:24:37 | TiMiD | lamed: so what about the lists ? (well if you are still here :p) |
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| 19:24:44 | preglow | beer and tv time |
| 19:24:45 | preglow | alter |
| 19:24:46 | ep0ch | i know that at about 42 seconds in on the vorbis one it sounds odd |
| 19:24:46 | preglow | later <- |
| 19:24:56 | ep0ch | later |
| 19:25:07 | TiMiD | does anyone mindsif I split the set_sound code into several smaller functions ? |
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| 19:37:55 | lamed | timid: i'm away for a salsa dance :D but i think i will just stick it in list.c... talk to you later about it. |
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| 20:30:38 | XavierGr | high :d |
| 20:30:44 | muesli_- | low :D |
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| 20:56:32 | Slasher | Hmm, do you think that adding a morse input support for "keyboard input editor" would be a good idea? |
| 20:56:48 | Slasher | I could probably do that next after i finish the crossfade thing |
| 20:57:05 | ep0ch | nah do beep on shutdown instead :) |
| 20:57:11 | Slasher | :D |
| 20:57:24 | muesli_- | beep on shutdown? what is that good for? |
| 20:57:38 | ep0ch | so you know the player has switched off |
| 20:57:42 | ep0ch | without looking at it |
| 20:57:43 | muesli_- | lol |
| 20:58:01 | ep0ch | beep on panic too would be good |
| 20:58:27 | muesli_- | this beep must even be louder than your current music. otherwise you wouldnt notice the shut down ^^ |
| 20:58:57 | ep0ch | well the music would stop first, then you hear the beep |
| 20:59:49 | muesli_- | sorry...this sounds ridiculously |
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| 21:00:21 | ep0ch | why? |
| 21:01:28 | muesli_- | cos when music stops you anyway know that it has shutdown |
| 21:01:38 | muesli_- | already |
| 21:01:51 | ep0ch | ahh but it might hang during shutdown |
| 21:02:13 | ep0ch | between stoping the music and actually completing shutdown |
| 21:02:47 | ep0ch | so you think its shut down (because the music has stopped) when in fact its just hanging |
| 21:03:01 | ep0ch | or |
| 21:03:12 | ep0ch | you press stop but not long enough to shutdown |
| 21:03:35 | ep0ch | you think its shutting down cos the music has stopped, but its just waiting |
| 21:04:32 | muesli_- | well..i see your point but i think its like shooting on flies with a canon (as we say) |
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| 21:14:38 | Slasher | ep0ch: yes, we should fix that the music should not stop before user releases the stop button or shutdown has been accepted |
| 21:17:10 | XavierGr | finish the crossfade thing? |
| 21:17:30 | muesli_- | what was there to fix? |
| 21:17:49 | Slasher | XavierGr: i am still working on it, it will take a few more days |
| 21:18:01 | XavierGr | what about crossfade and gapless together? Or an option to do gapless only on changing tracks? (fw/rw) |
| 21:18:09 | Slasher | currently it crashes and there is few problems with it |
| 21:18:26 | XavierGr | Crossfade is awesome but it ruins the music exprerience that a gapless album gives... |
| 21:18:54 | Slasher | XavierGr: yes, an option to enabled crossfade when shuffling sounds like a good idea |
| 21:20:43 | XavierGr | well I kinda want to it only on track change (e.g not when the track is finished, only when you choose another track or got to the next (or previous) manually) but yeah that sounds good too. |
| 21:21:02 | XavierGr | Best would be to automatically know if the preceding track is a gapless one. |
| 21:26:43 | linuxstb_ | XavierGr: There is no information in a track that says it is gapless. |
| 21:27:03 | linuxstb_ | Under Rockbox, all tracks are gapless. |
| 21:27:17 | linuxstb_ | (ignoring the MP3 problems) |
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| 21:31:11 | XavierGr | linuxstb: Yes I kinda thought about that's why I said only on track change. |
| 21:31:44 | XavierGr | but even if only on shuffle I am sure I could find a way to alter this for my purposes. |
| 21:32:20 | XavierGr | it is just that crossafed is so sweet only to see that it's annoying on consecutive tracks. |
| 21:32:29 | XavierGr | That is the only reason I don't use it. |
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| 21:33:30 | Slasher | preglow: interesting, the logf is definately broken.. Maybe there is a buffer misalign or something like that |
| 21:34:27 | Slasher | it even makes the whole unit to crash :D |
| 21:36:44 | XavierGr | anyone that has an advice on printers? My cheap-ass HP 640c refuses to take power from the cable so I think it is time to buy a new one. (after 5 years) |
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| 21:37:36 | XavierGr | My main problem with the current printer was that it couldn't feed the paper correctly and I hace to push the papers from the tray to feed correctly. |
| 21:38:10 | random_man | hello. i would like to tell you about a bug |
| 21:40:37 | random_man | when switching to inverse mode and then back to normal mode it just stays at inverse mode |
| 21:40:58 | XavierGr | main unit, remote or both? |
| 21:41:05 | XavierGr | and which target? |
| 21:41:09 | XavierGr | iriver or archos? |
| 21:41:20 | ep0ch | ihp |
| 21:41:26 | ep0ch | just verified |
| 21:41:29 | random_man | umm just main unit. havnt tried remote. iriver. ive posted this on the forums as well |
| 21:42:26 | random_man | only way i know how to change it is press and hold stop |
| 21:46:11 | random_man | change it back to normal that is |
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| 22:29:51 | muesli- | is there a way to get a lower bass than 0 ? (some ear phones blast your head with even 0 away) |
| 22:30:13 | XavierGr | raise treble instead :p |
| 22:31:06 | muesli- | no..you dont understand...i am just reading some ear phone reviews...its said that is even with 0 too much ;) |
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| 23:00:55 | amiconn | muesli-: It's impossible to attenuate bass or treble on iriver, the hardware only allows settings >= 0 dB |
| 23:01:01 | Slasher | muesli-: weird.. to get same bass output what my HT amplifier gives with bass boost set to 0dB, i have to adjust iriver setting to something between 8 and 12 dB |
| 23:01:29 | muesli- | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5826827390&fromMakeTrack=true |
| 23:01:35 | amiconn | A software eq would allow it, but is not (yet) availabe |
| 23:01:45 | muesli- | they shall blast your head |
| 23:03:05 | Bagder | if they boost bass so much you need to artificially lower it, then how can that be quality in the end? |
| 23:03:39 | muesli- | and blast my purse too... |
| 23:03:45 | muesli- | Bagder dunno.. |
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| 23:04:26 | Slasher | I am just wondering whatever my HT system gives a way too much bass boost or if iriver's 0dB is lower than it should |
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| 23:08:06 | amiconn | RotAtoR: Did you (or someone else) test the bejewelled plugin on an actual archos target before commit? |
| 23:15:11 | muesli- | RotAtoR guess ive almost used my last battery load for that damn game ;) |
| 23:31:50 | linuxstb_ | What's going on with the Rockbox Wikipedia article? |
| 23:32:32 | linuxstb_ | First it said the ipods had a hardware mp3 decoder, then it said they didn't, and now it says that the ipod nano has a hardware mp3 decoding chip (it doesn't). |
| 23:33:22 | Bagder | I believe they confuse the "codec" chips |
| 23:33:47 | amiconn | Hmm? |
| 23:35:55 | Bagder | like how the uda1380 for example often is referred to as a "codec" |
| 23:36:27 | linuxstb_ | But checking the latest revision (the top entry in page history), that whole sentence in brackets has been removed - so it looks like someone has fixed it already, but it hasn't been "published" (I don't know how wikipedia works) |
| 23:36:28 | amiconn | Yes, because it is an audio codecx |
| 23:36:31 | amiconn | -x |
| 23:36:57 | Bagder | yes, and I think that makes people mix up codecs |
| 23:37:27 | linuxstb_ | What exactly is a codec in that context? Is it the DAC, or something else? |
| 23:40:06 | linuxstb_ | Seems the Wiki page has just been fixed before my eyes. |
| 23:40:26 | linuxstb_ | s/wiki/wikipedia/ |
| 23:40:35 | Bagder | big brother is watching us! ;-) |
| 23:40:39 | Slasher | Hmm, now the new crossfading code is working quite well |
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| 23:49:28 | XavierGr | any idea what to do with my parts of my old printer? |
| 23:49:35 | muesli- | ebay |
| 23:49:42 | muesli- | somebody will buy it.. |
| 23:49:43 | XavierGr | I took it copletely apart and I can fix it anymore |
| 23:49:54 | XavierGr | s/can/scan't |
| 23:50:41 | XavierGr | Buy it? This thing is obsolete and almost destroyed... |
| 23:50:53 | muesli- | doesnt matter |
| 23:51:03 | muesli- | somebody will buy it |
| 23:51:06 | muesli- | for sure |
| 23:52:17 | XavierGr | but even then, the postal cost alone should be higher than the cost of the parts. |
| 23:52:47 | muesli- | doesnt matter |
| 23:52:48 | muesli- | somebody will buy it |
| 23:52:50 | muesli- | ;) |
| 23:53:12 | muesli- | every day a fool will visite ebay ;) |
| 23:53:19 | XavierGr | you seem very confident about that. |
| 23:53:37 | XavierGr | do you have previous experiance? |
| 23:53:54 | muesli- | at least people in germany buy every crap at ebay..zhey even pay more than a new item |
| 23:55:39 | XavierGr | ebay....hmm seems a lot of hassle to me, even if someone will buy it, I think I will continue to take it apart and keep the parts for me. (I do this all the time, but I have never got to use any of the parts I keep :X) |
| 23:56:03 | RotAtoR | amiconn: no, it hasn't been tested on an actual archos (that i know of), but it was tested thuroughly on the sims |
| 23:56:10 | RotAtoR | I have no idea who has an actual archos |
| 23:56:44 | muesli- | XavierGr you messy ;-) |
| 23:57:17 | XavierGr | yes indeed... |
| 23:57:34 | XavierGr | you should see my old motherboard! |
| 23:58:22 | muesli- | sold mine at ebay ;) |
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