| 00:07:41 | linuxstb | Bager: You wanted a commit.... |
| 00:07:48 | linuxstb | Bagder: (see above) |
| 00:08:45 | Bagder | and a nice one it is! |
| 00:09:17 | preglow | ooooh! |
| 00:09:23 | linuxstb | I'll wait to see what happens, and then do the final commit - tools/configure and the bootloader itself. |
| 00:09:47 | Bagder | let me know if it helps anything to add any builds to the table |
| 00:09:51 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, wouldn't it be better to have CONFIG_CPU defined as ARM7 or something=? |
| 00:10:03 | linuxstb | preglow: Details.... |
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| 00:10:22 | preglow | just thinking of future arm ports, hehe |
| 00:10:26 | linuxstb | I don't think that define is used yet anyway. |
| 00:10:57 | Bagder | Neuros N3 is not an unlikely future ARM target |
| 00:11:02 | Bagder | but ARM9 |
| 00:11:10 | linuxstb | Please don't be too critical of my code - it's very much a work in progress. Lots of it is incomplete or just plain wrong at the moment. |
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| 00:12:25 | preglow | nice solid commit |
| 00:12:59 | amiconn | Bagder: Still no link... |
| 00:13:11 | Bagder | no, that's why I wait for the next commit |
| 00:13:52 | Bagder | and the server get bogged with stuff to do at midnight, so its running way longer to do this latest build |
| 00:16:32 | amiconn | Ok, I'll wait until the running build finished |
| 00:16:38 | amiconn | I just need to hit return |
| 00:16:51 | Bagder | linuxstb already committed stuff for another round |
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| 00:17:15 | amiconn | Okay, then I'll queue up the next round... |
| 00:18:51 | Bagder | I did my first "fix" just assuming it worked in a particular way, only to then find out it didn't and now I believe it works |
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| 00:38:42 | amiconn | Teh server went to sleep... |
| 00:39:02 | Bagder | 00:38:55 up 83 days, 10:37, 8 users, load average: 6.41, 6.75, 7.07 |
| 00:39:08 | muesli_- | re |
| 00:39:40 | Bagder | the build stuff is running on a low prio |
| 00:39:50 | Bagder | so when something big starts, the build suffers |
| 00:40:12 | Bagder | and "big" currently means some xemacs regression testing it seems |
| 00:43:44 | preglow | emacs :/ |
| 00:44:04 | preglow | everything involving that's got to be a big task |
| 00:44:18 | Bagder | these days emacs doesn't count as big |
| 00:44:31 | Bagder | think eclipse |
| 00:44:34 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 00:44:51 | preglow | haha |
| 00:44:54 | preglow | at least as editors go |
| 00:45:08 | preglow | though calling it an editor is something of an understatement |
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| 00:56:43 | Bagder | crap |
| 00:57:46 | DJDD | Damn it, where Lunis when ya need him |
| 00:57:52 | DJDD | Linus, rather |
| 00:58:16 | Bagder | the link turned up, but got broken |
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| 01:00:33 | Bagder | oh well, perhaps it works now... |
| 01:00:58 | DJDD | Anyone here know their stuff about the hardware inside a H140 and H120? |
| 01:04:58 | amiconn | linuxstb: Funny #ifdef in lcd.h - both typedefs look identical to me... |
| 01:06:29 | linuxstb | amiconn: That's true. My first implementation had it using "unsigned short* address" but I changed it back to char. I'll fix it. |
| 01:06:37 | amiconn | Ah, yes |
| 01:07:12 | amiconn | I also wonder about the in() and out() macros, why there are no macros for the port addresses instead? |
| 01:08:07 | linuxstb | For now I've just copy and pasted from the ipl source code. I'll be cleaning it up in the future. |
| 01:08:12 | Bagder | those in and out things are artifacts from the linux kernel |
| 01:08:47 | amiconn | ah |
| 01:09:04 | preglow | ample time to clean up later, after we've got a nice shiny rockbox running on an ipod! |
| 01:09:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:09:22 | * | Bagder runs off to bed |
| 01:09:59 | amiconn | I wonder how the ipl guys remember what all these port addresses are doing... |
| 01:10:46 | linuxstb | The Rockbox source isn't that much better in lots of places. |
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| 01:14:48 | crashedh120 | hi there. i´m a little bit in panic now, would be great if somebody could help me |
| 01:15:02 | crashedh120 | hi there. i´m a little bit in panic now, would be great if somebody could help me |
| 01:16:02 | crashedh120 | hm. something semms not to work with irc in my case. gonna reconnect |
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| 01:17:33 | preglow | so |
| 01:17:46 | preglow | i wont even bother asking why you're here, heh |
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| 01:18:11 | crashed_h120 | hallo |
| 01:18:26 | preglow | how's it crashed? |
| 01:19:06 | ashridah | crashed_h120: what's the problem? |
| 01:19:35 | preglow | huffsv7.c:70: warning: this decimal constant is unsigned only in ISO C90 |
| 01:19:40 | preglow | anyone know what that's supposed to mean? |
| 01:20:18 | crashed_h120 | hello! my h120 just felt out of my pocket and now the harddrive is going crazy.what steps am i suppost to to, which tools are the right to rescue the damaged data? |
| 01:20:32 | crashed_h120 | hello! my h120 just felt out of my pocket and now the harddrive is going crazy.what steps am i suppost to to, which tools are the right to rescue the damaged data? |
| 01:20:40 | preglow | please, man, once is enough |
| 01:21:07 | preglow | to extract the hard drive, you need a small torx screwdriver |
| 01:21:26 | preglow | but i don't think there's much you can do unless you've got a 1.8" hard drive adapter |
| 01:21:54 | preglow | try inserting an usb cable, then swithcing the unit on to see if your os can read the drive by usb |
| 01:22:33 | ashridah | crashed_h120: to be honest, if you've dropped it while it's on, any attempt you make at using the drive is probably going to make things worse, since i imagine the read head has hit the platter and scratched it, probably damaging the head too |
| 01:22:37 | crashed_h120 | sry double postings |
| 01:22:53 | crashed_h120 | lol, by tools i mean software, sry |
| 01:22:54 | preglow | yes, you're probably fighting a lost cause |
| 01:23:14 | preglow | crashed_h120: if you can't connect by usb, you have no chance of doing it by software |
| 01:23:23 | ashridah | how valuable is the data you've got on it? |
| 01:23:50 | crashed_h120 | rockbox is booting, but lots of folders are damaged, its crashing while its trying to read them |
| 01:24:37 | ashridah | crashed_h120: stop using the device, you're only likely to make it worse. |
| 01:25:31 | crashed_h120 | unfortenatly i dropped it while it was reading from the harddrive :( |
| 01:25:39 | preglow | ahah |
| 01:25:45 | preglow | worst case |
| 01:26:00 | preglow | you've almost certainly had a head crash |
| 01:26:07 | crashed_h120 | its the music i love...can´t imagine running arounf without it |
| 01:26:21 | preglow | no, but you're most certainly going to have to |
| 01:27:00 | * | ashridah notes that he never keeps anything solely on his iriver for this exact reason |
| 01:27:37 | ashridah | crashed_h120: your hard drive is most likely completely screwed, AND it's potentially going to keep on damaging itself every time you try to use it |
| 01:27:47 | preglow | you're more or less out of luck, the hard drive is physically damaged, and the only thing even making it still try, is pure luck |
| 01:28:10 | preglow | if luck it can be called |
| 01:28:30 | ashridah | so, the question is, how valuable is the data to you, and how much are you willing to spend to get it? |
| 01:29:03 | ashridah | note that software's probably not an option, you'd need a professional disk recovery service, that will take the disk apart and start charging you thousands of dollars an hour to *maybe* get the data back. |
| 01:29:52 | crashed_h120 | i see...im just copying what´s still able to be copied and then i will hope it won´t get worser |
| 01:30:22 | amiconn | it *will* get worse for sure |
| 01:30:30 | preglow | no question about it |
| 01:30:31 | * | ashridah agrees |
| 01:31:28 | crashed_h120 | i just can´t afford to send it to a specialized lab or somethin... |
| 01:31:41 | preglow | then lets hope you don't have anything you can't loose on it |
| 01:32:11 | ashridah | crashed_h120: i assume the music you've got on it is stuff you can't reproduce? live recordings? |
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| 01:33:28 | crashed_h120 | will have to save my money for a new 30gb drive |
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| 01:34:43 | crashed_h120 | the irc is kind of slow.i write somethin and about 2 minutes later i read it myself |
| 01:34:45 | ehntoo | if you do need to get a new drive: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=T30MK3006L |
| 01:35:07 | ehntoo | and that would probably be your connection |
| 01:35:13 | dpassen1 | how long before the 40 GB drives? |
| 01:36:53 | crashed_h120 | i can rip most of the music again.i just paniced.thanks for helping me, i already calm down...iriver itself is ok so far...just having lots of work to do the next weeks as far as i can see |
| 01:40:02 | ehntoo | whoa. I must have missed something. |
| 01:40:17 | ehntoo | wince when is there going to be an iPod port? |
| 01:41:40 | linuxstb | Since I decided to start work on it a couple of months ago. |
| 01:42:32 | ehntoo | ah. |
| 01:42:46 | ehntoo | meh... now you took my argument against my friend buying an iPod Video. |
| 01:42:50 | ehntoo | =P |
| 01:43:04 | preglow | it's not exactly been widely announced |
| 01:44:08 | linuxstb | I guess the announcement has been made now. |
| 01:44:44 | linuxstb | ehntoo: My code won't work on the iPod Video. The current targets are the Color/Photo and the Nano. |
| 01:45:18 | linuxstb | Also, ipodlinux doesn't yet work on the iPod Video - but they seem to be making fast progress. |
| 01:45:38 | ehntoo | ah. |
| 01:46:05 | ehntoo | last I checked they didn't even support the color. |
| 01:46:12 | ehntoo | that was a long time ago, though |
| 01:46:43 | linuxstb | They don't "support" very much. But ipodlinux works on all ipods apart from the video and the shuffle. They have a special definition of the word "support". |
| 01:46:46 | crashed_h120 | i´m sry so but so i understand that there is no software that could help me a little?(as far as i concern using the iriver the next time) |
| 01:51:07 | preglow | the problem with your disk will likely get bigger and bigger the more you use it |
| 01:51:10 | preglow | so no |
| 01:51:23 | crashed_h120 | so far thanks a lot.gonna google how to "rescue" damged sectors ´n stuff. have a nice day |
| 01:51:41 | preglow | same to you |
| 01:51:47 | preglow | think i'll call it a night at that |
| 01:51:48 | preglow | later all |
| 01:51:54 | ehntoo | later. |
| 01:53:03 | linuxstb | OK, final ipod commits have just been made. |
| 01:58:04 | preglow | what about a new shiny photo with both logos? :) |
| 01:58:45 | linuxstb | I tried. I'll try again... |
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| 02:12:20 | preglow | no worries |
| 02:16:27 | linuxstb | I tried and failed again. I must read the manual for my camera... |
| 02:16:45 | linuxstb | Not sure if it's got a mode for taking photos of colour LCDs though. |
| 02:19:10 | linuxstb | OK, here's the best of a bad batch: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodboot2.jpg |
| 02:20:17 | preglow | looks like you need to enable macro mode |
| 02:20:23 | preglow | if the camera's got one |
| 02:20:49 | preglow | if not, the only way of getting a clear picture is backing off a little |
| 02:22:21 | preglow | man, having colour is good |
| 02:22:49 | preglow | i really need to try myself a nano soon, to see if it's something i use |
| 02:23:41 | preglow | but anywho, time for bed |
| 02:23:49 | preglow | nice work, linuxstb, really looking forward to trying it myself |
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| 02:29:23 | linuxstb | OK, I've finally got a decent photo - I've replaced the ipodboot2.jpg file with the new one. |
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| 03:02:10 | elinenbe | linuxstb: what's the current status with the ipod port? |
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| 03:03:39 | elinenbe | linuxstb: mini! :-) |
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| 03:54:58 | Igg-man | When stopping playback, sometimes I end up at root directory. Is there a way I can get it to always stay in the same directory as the file I was playing? |
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| 04:00:35 | crushed_h120 | for everybody who was helping me some hours ago: thank you.my ihp is playing. i know he has inoperable cancer now, but i hope one day i can affort a new brain.(for those who intersted: just copied each folder to hard disk, the folder he produced error mesages on i just deleted, so now i only got "clean" and tested folders, so far it works, just relaxing from stress with nora jones ;-) ) |
| 04:01:16 | crushed_h120 | for everybody who was helping me some hours ago: thank you.my ihp is playing. i know he has inoperable cancer now, but i hope one day i can affort a new brain.(for those who intersted: just copied each folder to hard disk, the folder he produced error mesages on i just deleted, so now i only got "clean" and tested folders, so far it works, just relaxing from stress with nora jones ;-) ) |
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| 04:03:44 | crushed_h120 | and again it takes 3,4 minutes to see somethin happening....(in the irc) i say goodbye and thanks again. and sry for double posts.i just don´t know if i sended a message or not |
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| 04:08:28 | crushed_h120 | and sry for all those mistakes: its late, very late, i got super red eyes, and i just had big stress. you guys kick ass. thanks for rockbox and support |
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| 04:54:25 | _user_ | phaedrus961: are you there? |
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| 06:05:19 | _user_ | phaedrus961: did you get my message? |
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| 06:22:52 | phaedrus961 | _user_: sorry, I've been a bit busy. I'll try to upload an updated patch soon. |
| 06:23:53 | _user_ | oh ok, take your time :) as long as you've acknowledged the problem |
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| 06:25:23 | phaedrus961 | Yes I'm aware of it. I think I'll do it now before I forget. |
| 06:26:24 | _user_ | :) |
| 06:26:42 | wacky_ | hey guys, would donating for the iAudio X5 porting effort help speed up any progress in that way ? |
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| 08:02:19 | Slasher | morning :) |
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| 08:14:28 | Jungti1234 | hey markun |
| 08:16:03 | Jungti1234 | When iriver broke down, become complete if strike several times. :) |
| 08:16:34 | Jungti1234 | So, I like Korean manufacture. |
| 08:27:59 | solexx | Hm. Today's daily build doesn't play any song |
| 08:28:21 | solexx | irrespective of codec (tried Vorbis, MP3 and FLAC) I get 'Codec Error' |
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| 09:00:08 | linuxstb | solexx: I see some other people have posted the same problem on the forum. Have you tried the latest bleeding edge build? |
| 09:08:54 | linuxstb | I've just downloaded the latest bleeding edge, and can confirm playback is broken for the iriver for all codecs. |
| 09:11:38 | solexx | thanks for trying. I cannot test right now - don't have my USB cable with me |
| 09:11:54 | * | solexx had nothing to listen to on his way to work *sniff* |
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| 09:12:27 | solexx | maybe I should refrain from updating rockbox early in the morning :) |
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| 09:30:52 | linuxstb | B4gder: To answer your question from last night, there is no rush to add the ipod builds to the automatic build system. They don't actually do anything useful and there are still a very large number of warnings generated anyway. |
| 09:31:10 | B4gder | ok |
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| 09:31:31 | B4gder | its very easy to add a build, so just say the word when you're ready |
| 09:31:54 | linuxstb | But if you want to install gcc in preparation, I'm using arm-elf-gcc 3.4.4 and the standard 2.16.tar.gz binutils. |
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| 09:45:12 | B4gder | I'll do that |
| 09:51:04 | linuxstb | OK, thanks. |
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| 10:10:17 | Slasher | Uh! |
| 10:10:25 | Slasher | now my rockbox boots and runs directly from flash =) |
| 10:10:33 | Slasher | when i press rec+play to start it |
| 10:10:45 | linuxstb | Nice. Any idea about speed? |
| 10:10:53 | Slasher | i couldn't even see the bootloader, instead i got immediately rockbox logo! :) |
| 10:10:59 | Slasher | i was a bit amazed ;) |
| 10:11:04 | Slasher | i will test soon |
| 10:11:17 | Slasher | unfortunately the latest commit seem to have broken the codecs or something |
| 10:12:17 | linuxstb | Yes - there were a lot of commits last night. I don't have time to look at it myself now though. |
| 10:12:34 | ashridah | Slasher: heh. nifty, how long does it take the hard drive to catch up |
| 10:12:36 | ashridah | :) |
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| 10:13:45 | * | B4gder makes another attempt to fix that darn link on the date of the build-line in the cvs build table |
| 10:14:46 | Slasher | ashridah: i cannot now measure the boot time because latest commits has "broken" the boot too, it takes a veery long time |
| 10:15:13 | Slasher | ashridah: but the disk starts to spin up about same time i got the logo on the screen |
| 10:17:08 | ashridah | cool |
| 10:17:16 | Slasher | I also got 236896 bytes more size to the audio buffer when running from flash |
| 10:18:46 | linuxstb | You could potentially store all the codecs in ROM as well. |
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| 10:19:34 | linuxstb | Slasher: Are you planning on adding the abilility to load the iriver firmware from disk? |
| 10:19:43 | * | ashridah manages to get himself killed in cold war yet again |
| 10:19:45 | ashridah | god damnit |
| 10:27:59 | Slasher | linuxstb: in future, yes |
| 10:29:05 | Slasher | linuxstb: true, we could store many things in the rom |
| 10:50:52 | markun | Jungti1234: hi |
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| 11:03:54 | korpse | uhm hi |
| 11:04:24 | B4gder | hiya |
| 11:05:57 | korpse | i'm looking through the rockbox site here, and i don't see any mention of the H10 |
| 11:06:05 | B4gder | correct |
| 11:06:09 | B4gder | no h10 support |
| 11:06:13 | korpse | alright |
| 11:06:22 | korpse | next question, has the H100 series been discontinued? |
| 11:06:30 | B4gder | yes |
| 11:06:56 | korpse | and there is no rockbox support for the H300 series? |
| 11:07:06 | B4gder | not yet, no |
| 11:09:28 | korpse | alright |
| 11:09:35 | korpse | so what is rockbox' main target device? |
| 11:09:50 | B4gder | Archos players and iriver h1x0 players for the moment |
| 11:10:11 | korpse | the h1x0 player support is described as "partial" |
| 11:10:27 | B4gder | that's just because there has been no public release just yet |
| 11:10:33 | korpse | ah |
| 11:10:39 | B4gder | we're all using rockbox exclusively on iriver since many months back |
| 11:11:05 | B4gder | I'd say it kicks the original firmware's butt big time |
| 11:11:29 | novimon | yeah |
| 11:11:33 | korpse | oh yes, i'd definitely agree there |
| 11:11:35 | novimon | it rocks |
| 11:11:37 | korpse | is it just me or does the H300 series seem inferior (as an audio player) to the H100 series |
| 11:13:02 | novimon | yes I feel so too :) |
| 11:13:46 | korpse | that is mildly (read: very) annoying |
| 11:15:19 | linuxstb | Is the H10 the player based on the PP5020? |
| 11:16:03 | korpse | i have no ide |
| 11:16:05 | korpse | a |
| 11:16:45 | korpse | according to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortalPlayer it is |
| 11:16:53 | linuxstb | To answer my own question, yes it is. |
| 11:17:54 | korpse | is that a more powerful piece of hardware than what the H100 or H300 has/have? |
| 11:17:58 | linuxstb | The reason I mention it is that Rockbox now includes the start of PP5020 support (as part of my iPod port). So a H10 port now becomes easier. But I'm not aware of anyone with an interest and the skills to do it though. |
| 11:18:35 | linuxstb | It is probably slightly more powerful - it contains two 75MHz ARM processors instead of a single 120MHz (approx) Coldfire processor. |
| 11:19:10 | linuxstb | But I would say they are probably both capable of doing the same things - one isn't significantly better than the other. |
| 11:19:54 | korpse | so is FLAC playback supported on the H100 series? |
| 11:20:12 | linuxstb | Yes, FLAC is now probably the more efficient codec on the H100 series now. |
| 11:20:29 | korpse | efficient? |
| 11:20:29 | linuxstb | (in terms of CPU usage) |
| 11:20:32 | korpse | wow |
| 11:20:47 | korpse | not Musepack? |
| 11:20:55 | linuxstb | We found a very efficient decoder, and have optimised it to death. |
| 11:21:11 | linuxstb | This replaces the old "libFLAC" decoder, which was very slow. |
| 11:21:14 | korpse | that's fairly impressive |
| 11:22:23 | linuxstb | I've done some playback tests, and can get around 12 to 14 hours of FLAC playback from a full charge. |
| 11:22:43 | korpse | neat |
| 11:25:57 | korpse | too bad helping out with stuff like this requires a lot more than the device and a compiler |
| 11:26:42 | ashridah | depends where you want to help |
| 11:27:11 | korpse | true |
| 11:27:32 | ashridah | i dont' believe all that many people (if even more than one or two) have BDM's for the iriver hardware |
| 11:27:54 | korpse | and some of us don't even know what a BDM is |
| 11:28:00 | korpse | (hint: it's me) |
| 11:28:46 | ashridah | it's a hardware debugging module, used on (at least) motorola embedded cpus |
| 11:28:58 | korpse | ah okay |
| 11:30:08 | ashridah | it's only really necessary if you're playing around with the firmware bootloader. since the firmware that rockbox provide has built in support to enable usb disk mode, playing around with the source to the firmware proper isn't particularly dangerous |
| 11:32:23 | linuxstb | The ipod work doesn't need a BDM or equivalent. Even the bootloader is just stored on the disk, and it's easy to recover from a bootloader crash. |
| 11:32:43 | linuxstb | It all depends on how the original firmware on the device allows you to run your own code. |
| 11:32:44 | korpse | however the H300 bootloader isn't complete yet? |
| 11:32:54 | linuxstb | No - the H300 bootloader needs a BDM to debug. |
| 11:33:10 | linuxstb | And only one very busy person has both the hardware and the skills to do it. |
| 11:33:26 | korpse | Linus |
| 11:33:32 | Jungti1234 | H300's work should like to be gone fast. |
| 11:33:32 | linuxstb | Yep. |
| 11:34:26 | linuxstb | But once the bootloader is written (which will imply that the main drivers - LCD, button, disk etc - are also written), Rockbox will very quickly get to the same state as the H100 port. |
| 11:34:55 | korpse | the H10 has no HDD? |
| 11:35:23 | korpse | oh nevermind, just confusing wording on the official site |
| 11:36:15 | linuxstb | I agree - the official site is vague. |
| 11:36:26 | linuxstb | Anyway, got to go now. bbl. |
| 11:36:36 | korpse | byebye |
| 11:36:42 | Jungti1234 | http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=LOD&office_id=022&article_id=0000082946 |
| 11:37:00 | Jungti1234 | I conduct this information and knew rockbox. |
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| 11:38:15 | markun | Jungti1234: I think I can read the 2nd word in the headline (iriver) :) |
| 11:38:25 | markun | a-i-ri-ve |
| 11:38:47 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 11:38:57 | Jungti1234 | ¾ÆÀ̸®¹ö = iriver |
| 11:39:04 | markun | My korean is improving :) |
| 11:39:05 | korpse | do the iRiver decices come with AC adapters? |
| 11:39:13 | markun | korpse: yes |
| 11:39:26 | korpse | are they universal adapters? |
| 11:39:27 | Jungti1234 | great. |
| 11:39:50 | korpse | my Korean is still at stage 0 :( |
| 11:40:16 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 11:40:39 | korpse | voltage out the wall is 240v here, which is a real pain when trying to buy devices |
| 11:41:08 | markun | korpse: I can't check now, but I think it was 110-240 V |
| 11:41:21 | korpse | wow, that would be a nice surprise |
| 11:41:33 | Slasher | Hmm, currently boot up from disk: 9s and boot from flash: 7s. But that delay can be still lowered for example putting config structure to eeprom/flash |
| 11:42:01 | Slasher | And the rockbox suffers some problem with the read().. It can't read almost anything |
| 11:42:21 | markun | Slasher: Is it faster to read data from ram than from rom, or doesn't it matter? |
| 11:42:37 | korpse | what hardware is that that you're referring to, Slasher? |
| 11:42:48 | Slasher | markun: i cannot test it yet before that read bug is fixed |
| 11:43:03 | Slasher | but currently i run rockbox directly from rom |
| 11:43:07 | Slasher | korpse: iriver |
| 11:44:54 | korpse | which one? |
| 11:44:56 | korpse | H100? |
| 11:45:22 | Slasher | yes |
| 11:45:25 | Slasher | H140 |
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| 11:47:33 | korpse | ah |
| 11:47:39 | linuxstb | I've got to run now, but I've just had a thought regarding the current Rockbox problems. It's possible that my changes to ata.c have broken the disk reading on the iriver. I'll try and look at it later, but if someone else wants to review them... |
| 11:47:45 | korpse | does anybody have an opinion on the H10 series? |
| 11:47:52 | linuxstb | bbl. |
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| 11:52:04 | markun | ep0ch: Did the FreeBSD patch work? |
| 11:52:21 | ep0ch | oh you know i've looked at the patch |
| 11:52:46 | ep0ch | but i haven't even managed to get as far as compiling the cross compiler successfully! |
| 11:53:03 | markun | Ah, that was also a bit problematic for me :) |
| 11:53:07 | ep0ch | i should probably donate some more time to it tomorrow |
| 11:53:16 | ep0ch | markun: any tips on version numbers? |
| 11:54:08 | Jungti1234 | korpse |
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| 11:55:30 | markun | I used cvs binutils and gcc-3.4.4 (just as the site sais). I had some help from Linus, did you try his patch on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler ? |
| 11:56:16 | lamed | hey all. who's cvs name is Miika? |
| 11:56:36 | markun | I had to remove a lot of stuff from the makefile so only the coldfire cpu (and no other m68k's) was supported |
| 11:56:42 | ep0ch | lamed: Slasher |
| 11:57:03 | ep0ch | markun: ahh ok |
| 11:57:52 | ep0ch | markun: thanks, i'll get it working tomorrow :) |
| 11:58:01 | korpse | Jungti1234: yes? |
| 11:58:13 | Jungti1234 | Do you want to buy H100, H300 and H10? |
| 11:58:29 | korpse | Jungti1234: well, depends who is paying :P |
| 11:58:51 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 11:58:54 | korpse | Jungti1234: i just want one, but the H100 has been discontinued, so i'm looking at the H300 and H10 |
| 11:59:31 | markun | korpse: You might still find a H120 (or H140) for a nice price on ebay. |
| 11:59:37 | Jungti1234 | H10 speaks that there are many bugs. |
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| 12:00:40 | Jungti1234 | H300 is very massive. :) |
| 12:03:12 | lamed | slasher: here? |
| 12:03:23 | lamed | ep0ch: thanks |
| 12:04:56 | Slasher | lamed: hi |
| 12:08:09 | korpse | markun: you think so? |
| 12:10:03 | markun | korpse: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&fstype=1&from=R10&satitle=iriver+%28ihp-120%2Ch120%29&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=Postcode&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&price=1&saprclo=60&saprchi= |
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| 12:11:07 | markun | Morning Moos |
| 12:11:19 | Moos | Hello :) |
| 12:14:30 | lamed | slasher: thanks for the crossfade improves... I'm having a party on thursday and it will probebally help :) just that now my battery draind and the charger is 120 km away... just wondering if it still restarts playback for every setting change. |
| 12:15:53 | Slasher | lamed: it will restart the playback when changing fade out delays or durations |
| 12:16:13 | Slasher | But beaware that it's still little buggy, i will try to improve it on next weekend if i have time |
| 12:17:16 | lamed | slasher: are you on improving it to not restarting playback or it looks like a major deal? |
| 12:17:41 | Moos | Slasher: congrates and good luck for your rom works |
| 12:18:22 | korpse | wow, that is an insane URL |
| 12:18:24 | korpse | thanks markun |
| 12:18:40 | Slasher | lamed: Hmm.. That might require an another option. Anyway, without restarting the playback, we would lose much buffer space |
| 12:18:59 | Slasher | Moos: hehe, thanks |
| 12:19:40 | Slasher | lamed: anyway, restarting playback is necessary if we change the pcm buffer size.. But maybe we can do that after user has stopped the playback |
| 12:19:55 | Slasher | But increasing the buffer requires the playback always to be stopped |
| 12:32:34 | Slasher | I think i found the bug |
| 12:32:40 | Slasher | (in ata.c) |
| 12:32:59 | korpse | Jungti1234: what sort of bugs have been reported about the H10? |
| 12:35:37 | Jungti1234 | It is bug of firmware. |
| 12:35:50 | ep0ch | bug no.1 no rockbox. |
| 12:35:56 | korpse | yet :P |
| 12:36:00 | ep0ch | :) |
| 12:36:26 | Jungti1234 | hehe. |
| 12:36:30 | lamed | well, how bad is it? -how much buffer is drawn when using 20 sec fade (old settings, donno how it looks now) |
| 12:36:44 | lamed | (=slasher) |
| 12:36:52 | ep0ch | 20 seconds??! |
| 12:37:08 | ep0ch | that's a big fade |
| 12:37:37 | lamed | hehe... yes, but it was possible |
| 12:37:59 | ep0ch | 20 * 44100 * 2 * 2 bytes or something |
| 12:38:12 | Jungti1234 | And delay time is long. |
| 12:38:31 | lamed | why *2 *2? first one is for stereo? |
| 12:38:43 | crwl | second is for 2 bytes per sample |
| 12:40:47 | Jungti1234 | Is Hangul input possible in unicode rockbox? |
| 12:40:56 | Slasher | hehe, 20s = ~3.5 MB |
| 12:42:06 | Slasher | Now the playback problem is fixed in cvs |
| 12:42:11 | lamed | hmm.. 3528000 .bytes. that's 3.5 mb. so theoretically we could set a setting, that if you wouldn't cross, it will prolong/short the crossfade without have to restart. |
| 12:42:25 | ep0ch | surely there must be a way of doing cross fading without having large buffers? |
| 12:42:41 | lamed | only if h.d spins through |
| 12:42:41 | ep0ch | or would that mean running two decoders in parallel? |
| 12:42:48 | preglow | Slasher: was that the codec bug? |
| 12:42:48 | B4gder | ep0ch: yes |
| 12:43:13 | B4gder | the buffer is a must since we decode only one "stream" at a time |
| 12:43:13 | preglow | we already can run two decoders in parallel |
| 12:43:39 | B4gder | yes it would indeed be possible |
| 12:43:39 | preglow | but doing it the way we currently do it allows for slow codecs to be able to crossfade as well |
| 12:43:45 | Slasher | Hehe, now it takes 5s to boot iriver (with dircache enabled but without voice files) |
| 12:43:48 | Slasher | :) |
| 12:44:00 | preglow | Slasher: wrap this up so i can use it, please :V |
| 12:44:02 | Slasher | preglow: ROCKBOX_IS_BIGENDIAN instead of ROCKBOX_BIG_ENDIAN |
| 12:44:12 | Slasher | preglow: that requires flashing.. :) |
| 12:44:14 | B4gder | Slasher: compared to what time when not flashed? |
| 12:44:15 | ep0ch | 3 seconds to get the harddisk spinning |
| 12:44:35 | Slasher | B4gder: just a moment, i will need to recompile to check that too :) |
| 12:44:40 | B4gder | :-) |
| 12:44:51 | preglow | Slasher: do you currently spin the disk up before you start other devices init? |
| 12:45:01 | preglow | Slasher: the dac driver for one requires almost a second in just waiting |
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| 12:45:38 | B4gder | aaaah |
| 12:45:45 | B4gder | finally the link on the top line works |
| 12:46:01 | B4gder | (while building) |
| 12:46:17 | Slasher | preglow: it seems that the disk spins up automatically |
| 12:46:23 | ep0ch | hmmm would it be possible to have some codecs living in flash and some on the hardisk? (thinking ahead) |
| 12:46:37 | Moos | B4gder: 30 minutes for compile XD |
| 12:46:37 | Slasher | at least it starts to spin at the same time i see the rockbox logo (almost immediately after i press power on) |
| 12:46:53 | B4gder | Moos: yes, all the new codecs do add on to the build time |
| 12:46:55 | lamed | slasher: a.nice. b. i personally would love to be able to change crossfade settings without having to restart. even if that means always loosing the maximum buffer area and thus spinning the disk more. one will only use this setting if like me, djing a party. my 2.00 edvice (that i will love to not sit and try to program myself) |
| 12:47:00 | linuxstb | Slasher: I see from the logs you found my bug. Thanks and sorry about that. |
| 12:47:26 | Slasher | linuxstb: np, it should be fixed now :) |
| 12:48:19 | Slasher | linuxstb: Hmm, i will keep that in mind :) I think we could implement that |
| 12:48:32 | Slasher | lamed.. |
| 12:49:34 | lamed | slasher: thanks! |
| 12:49:39 | lamed | :) |
| 12:50:32 | preglow | should be more than enough space for codecs in the flash, i think |
| 12:50:35 | preglow | if we strip them of bss |
| 12:50:53 | preglow | Slasher: do i see a flash plugin for rockbox coming? |
| 12:51:14 | Slasher | Bagder: 7s from disk |
| 12:51:26 | ep0ch | well.. i'm just thinking, it would be nice to have codecs on the harddisk override those in flash. so codecs can be easily upgraded without reflashing |
| 12:51:31 | B4gder | that's only a 2 second diff |
| 12:51:43 | B4gder | 28% |
| 12:52:05 | ep0ch | same with plugins |
| 12:52:07 | Slasher | preglow: in time, yes. But it requires still much to do to be safe and useful for ordinary users too |
| 12:54:02 | Slasher | preglow: currently i have patched firmware flash so that i could write entire flash contents from a file using it. It also prevents overwriting the bootloader and writes always the 8 critical bytes at the beginning |
| 12:54:15 | Slasher | *firmware_flash plugin |
| 12:55:13 | Slasher | preglow: and i boot rockbox from flash using unpatched bootloader with the dual boot function |
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| 12:56:24 | Zagor | minor nitpick: i think ROCKBOX_BIG_ENDIAN should be renamed to TARGET_IS_BIG_ENDIAN or something. rockbox itself is endian agnostic. |
| 12:56:25 | Slasher | Bagder: i think the difference will be more significant when we have the config structure in eeprom |
| 12:56:46 | B4gder | Slasher: true |
| 12:57:09 | B4gder | Zagor: thing is we do all those generated defines with a ROCKBOX_ prefix |
| 12:57:29 | B4gder | ROCKBOX_TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN perhaps |
| 12:58:47 | Zagor | hmm. ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF and ROCKBOX_HAS_SIMSOUND are potentially confusing too. what if we just change ROCKBOX to TARGET? |
| 12:59:12 | B4gder | why is ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF confusing? |
| 12:59:16 | B4gder | it means exactly that |
| 12:59:44 | B4gder | without it, that rockbox has no logf |
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| 13:00:38 | Zagor | what condition is used to determine how it is set? |
| 13:01:04 | B4gder | a configure option |
| 13:01:20 | B4gder | you specify you want logf support |
| 13:01:59 | B4gder | yellow alert! |
| 13:04:45 | Zagor | B4gder: it's all a matter of definition, of course. I'd say what you define with the configure script is what your target looks like. not what rockbox looks like. |
| 13:05:05 | Zagor | in the case of logf, it's hairsplitting i agree |
| 13:05:14 | B4gder | yes, its a matter of definition |
| 13:05:33 | B4gder | I kind of see it as "this build of rockbox for this target" |
| 13:05:55 | Zagor | so how about a BUILD_ prefix? |
| 13:06:49 | B4gder | I'd prefer having Rockbox someone in there since it makes it obvious the define is made by us |
| 13:06:58 | B4gder | somehow |
| 13:07:43 | preglow | i agree |
| 13:07:47 | Zagor | let's keep it as it is. if someone else is confused we can discuss it again. :-) |
| 13:07:53 | preglow | i don't think there's anything wrong with ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF at all |
| 13:07:58 | B4gder | Slasher: your fix introduces some weirdness |
| 13:08:40 | Zagor | preglow: i never said wrong, just confusing. |
| 13:09:10 | linuxstb | Sorry about the yellow - it's an #warning I put in the code for testing and forgot to remove. I'll fix now. |
| 13:09:15 | B4gder | ok |
| 13:09:18 | linuxstb | (unless anyone else has already done it) |
| 13:10:40 | linuxstb | Fixed. |
| 13:12:21 | B4gder | right, ipod is the first little endian target |
| 13:12:29 | B4gder | it is little, isn't it? |
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| 13:13:08 | Zagor | is it? |
| 13:13:13 | preglow | yes |
| 13:13:17 | B4gder | ARM is usually run little |
| 13:13:19 | linuxstb | Yes, it's little. The sims are normally built little-endian though. |
| 13:13:20 | preglow | arms can be switchable, but are little by native |
| 13:13:55 | Zagor | ah, right. /me has flashbacks of bug is the big-endian bus handling... |
| 13:14:00 | markun | I still don't understand what is so nice about little endian.. |
| 13:14:13 | B4gder | all modern CPUs can switch |
| 13:14:39 | preglow | B4gder: all modern arm cpus, i take it? |
| 13:14:48 | B4gder | and ppc and ... |
| 13:14:50 | preglow | B4gder: oh? |
| 13:15:59 | linuxstb | Any more news about Neuros? I assume that they definitely going the TI DSP route? |
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| 13:16:06 | B4gder | linuxstb: they are |
| 13:16:15 | B4gder | they're now selling dev boards |
| 13:16:24 | linuxstb | Is Rockbox getting any? |
| 13:16:44 | B4gder | we can, if anyone is interested |
| 13:17:02 | linuxstb | I'm not. Like most people, I'm busy enough. |
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| 13:17:04 | B4gder | the boring part is that they are all talking 442 now |
| 13:17:06 | B4gder | not N3 |
| 13:17:12 | B4gder | and the 442 _will_ run linux |
| 13:17:49 | Zagor | ...and we'll not get full docs |
| 13:17:50 | B4gder | so I'm lurking in the backseat for now |
| 13:17:56 | B4gder | right, no docs |
| 13:17:58 | B4gder | again |
| 13:18:02 | linuxstb | So N3 is the audio player, and 442 is the video player? And they are both using the same processor? |
| 13:18:06 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:18:52 | B4gder | and they are gonna make a 3rd product too based on the same arch |
| 13:18:56 | linuxstb | So the 442 will definitely ship with Linux? What about the N3? |
| 13:19:12 | B4gder | the N3 is said to "might run Rockbox" or something like that |
| 13:19:30 | preglow | well |
| 13:19:32 | B4gder | is isn't really settled yet, but that is probably because N3 is still being planned |
| 13:19:32 | Zagor | linuxstb: unless we make a lot of noise and effort from our end, I'd say it will run linux too. |
| 13:19:48 | linuxstb | Zagor: I'm sure you're right. |
| 13:19:53 | preglow | yes |
| 13:19:58 | B4gder | I think so too |
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| 13:20:14 | preglow | exactly where will we be lacking docs? |
| 13:20:16 | preglow | strictly the dsp part? |
| 13:20:22 | B4gder | on the whole ARM thing |
| 13:20:35 | preglow | bah |
| 13:20:35 | preglow | fuck it |
| 13:20:38 | B4gder | sure, the instructions are plain arm |
| 13:20:42 | B4gder | arm926 |
| 13:20:44 | linuxstb | Is it a system-on-a-chip type of thing? |
| 13:20:47 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:21:03 | B4gder | DM320 TI thing |
| 13:21:08 | preglow | the first platform that's designed to run rockbox will have fewer docs than h120, where we were never intended to run |
| 13:21:14 | preglow | that's ironic |
| 13:21:15 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:21:16 | Zagor | Neuros hopes to be able to relay docs/info, but I'm not sure how much they will be allowed to do that. NDAs and all. |
| 13:21:26 | B4gder | preglow: I wrote exactly that to them |
| 13:21:59 | B4gder | but apparently the DM320 is very competitivly priced |
| 13:22:13 | B4gder | so they don't think they have any real options |
| 13:22:17 | linuxstb | And there's no open source compiler for the DSP? |
| 13:22:22 | B4gder | no |
| 13:22:27 | B4gder | and no docs for it either |
| 13:22:39 | Zagor | on the other hand, there's no open source compiler for any dsp. |
| 13:22:41 | B4gder | and we can't shut it off |
| 13:22:53 | B4gder | since the sound will be going through the DSP uncontionally |
| 13:22:55 | linuxstb | We could just treat it like the MAS though. |
| 13:23:00 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:23:08 | linuxstb | And trust Neuros to implement their part well. |
| 13:23:22 | B4gder | that is the plan |
| 13:23:27 | preglow | hahah |
| 13:23:39 | preglow | i can't say i want to go back to that scenario at all |
| 13:23:46 | B4gder | just like the MAS implemented their part without bugs! ;-P |
| 13:23:54 | preglow | at least there would be nothing for me to do on that platform |
| 13:24:18 | Zagor | well it's slightly better than the MAS, since we have communication with the devs. but still not very fun. |
| 13:24:23 | preglow | indeed |
| 13:24:29 | preglow | and we can pretty much kiss most codecs goodbye |
| 13:24:30 | linuxstb | But this is different - Rockbox and Neuros both have the same goals. |
| 13:24:32 | Zagor | preglow: actually the codecs are planned to be sw-based |
| 13:24:38 | preglow | Zagor: yes, sure, it _is_ a dsp |
| 13:24:45 | preglow | Zagor: but they'll have to be custom written |
| 13:24:50 | B4gder | yes, I wasn't really fair |
| 13:24:53 | Zagor | the dsp will only deal with channeling the audio from cpu to dac |
| 13:25:00 | preglow | oh? |
| 13:25:03 | linuxstb | But it _could_ do a lot more? |
| 13:25:03 | Zagor | preglow: no, arm cpu codecs |
| 13:25:07 | preglow | right |
| 13:25:09 | preglow | then i'm ok |
| 13:25:17 | B4gder | the dsp will mainly do video codecs |
| 13:25:20 | Zagor | linuxstb: yes. they plan to do video on it |
| 13:25:43 | B4gder | as a comparison btw, the iriver pmp is a dm270 thing |
| 13:25:52 | B4gder | the little brother of dm320 |
| 13:26:11 | linuxstb | I'm sure the Arm could be clocked very low for audio playback - the ipodlinux people have got libFLAC running on a single CPU at 66MHz for example. |
| 13:27:39 | preglow | hahah |
| 13:27:59 | preglow | they should swap their codec for libffmpeg's too |
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| 13:33:43 | linuxstb | preglow: Have you noticed any ARM assembler in any of the codecs? I seem to recall libmad having some. |
| 13:35:10 | preglow | sure |
| 13:35:13 | preglow | libmad's got some |
| 13:35:15 | preglow | vorbis has got some |
| 13:35:57 | preglow | speex has got some as well, but that's far from finished yet |
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| 13:57:02 | B4gder | arm-elf-gcc (GCC) 3.4.4 |
| 13:57:07 | B4gder | *prepared* |
| 13:57:09 | B4gder | ;-) |
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| 14:00:22 | Jungti1234 | Who is Frank Dischner? |
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| 14:03:57 | preglow | w00t |
| 14:05:18 | ep0ch | Jungti1234: phaedrus961 i think |
| 14:05:40 | Jungti1234 | thanks |
| 14:09:30 | linuxstb | B4gder: Nice. I'll try and get the code in a state where the automatic builds can start. |
| 14:10:23 | ep0ch | if Vorbis can play on an iPod i might consider getting one myself :) |
| 14:10:28 | linuxstb | I guess we will also need to find some photos of a Nano and a 4G Color. |
| 14:10:54 | B4gder | linuxstb: yes, that would be nice |
| 14:11:04 | preglow | linuxstb: hear dnaything from the guy with the nano? |
| 14:11:05 | B4gder | ep0ch: join in and help linuxstb |
| 14:11:22 | linuxstb | preglow: No, not yet. He doesn't appear to ever be in the same place as his Nano. |
| 14:11:53 | B4gder | we could probably sponsor one for you |
| 14:12:13 | B4gder | if you think it would help |
| 14:12:16 | preglow | ! |
| 14:12:28 | linuxstb | preglow was keen on working on the Nano port... |
| 14:12:57 | B4gder | preglow: interested? |
| 14:13:10 | preglow | B4gder: indeed |
| 14:13:39 | ep0ch | I would love to help, but i'm not a low level coder. |
| 14:14:30 | Zagor | preglow: how much is a nano where you live? |
| 14:14:35 | ep0ch | which ipod has the best cpu? i believe there are some differences in the models. |
| 14:15:14 | linuxstb | ep0ch: I think all the 4G models are the same. The older ones have a PP5002 which I think is slower due to a badly designed (or broken) cache. |
| 14:15:23 | preglow | Zagor: around 2k nok it seems |
| 14:15:49 | preglow | i haven't really looked much around yet |
| 14:15:51 | linuxstb | The new video ipod also has a second pair of processors dedicated to video decoding. |
| 14:15:56 | Jungti1234 | Is iAudio X5 working? |
| 14:16:04 | preglow | Jungti1234: no, the coder vanished |
| 14:16:21 | ep0ch | with a bdm! |
| 14:16:37 | preglow | ep0ch: we've already done so for the x5 coder |
| 14:16:41 | preglow | ep0ch: but he's vanished |
| 14:16:57 | Jungti1234 | Is iAudio M3 working? |
| 14:17:00 | ep0ch | yeah that's what i meant :) |
| 14:17:33 | linuxstb | No, nothing works apart from the old Archos devices and the iriver H1x0s |
| 14:17:39 | ep0ch | he should send it to Slasher before he makes a terrible mistake |
| 14:18:25 | B4gder | I'm in contact with him about that |
| 14:18:39 | Jungti1234 | Is not H300 working? |
| 14:18:43 | LinusN | we're settling the bdm issue with him |
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| 14:18:50 | LinusN | Jungti1234: no |
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| 14:20:38 | preglow | linuxstb: any difference between the 2gig and 4gig nanos you know about? |
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| 14:21:02 | ep0ch | wb |
| 14:22:58 | preglow | woops, need to vanish for a while, bbl |
| 14:23:41 | linuxstb | preglow: No, I don't think there's any differences. |
| 14:23:56 | Jungti1234 | -_- |
| 14:24:00 | Jungti1234 | wow.. |
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| 14:46:49 | lamed | hey! a bunch of silly questions: what would you have done without them? a. how do i retrive today |
| 14:46:58 | lamed | 's irc log? |
| 14:47:12 | lamed | b. anyone using koss's sparkplug? |
| 14:47:30 | B4gder | a) what's wrong with browsing it on the web? |
| 14:47:45 | ashridah | should be a realtime updating copy on www.rockbox.org/irc |
| 14:47:51 | lamed | badger - doesnt show todays log |
| 14:48:19 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt |
| 14:48:42 | lamed | c. how do you SET AWAY? b4gfer - thanks |
| 14:48:49 | B4gder | /away |
| 14:51:05 | * | lamed | /away <return> ** You are no longer set as away | |
| 14:51:13 | B4gder | /away reason |
| 14:51:33 | B4gder | and without reason when you switch it off |
| 14:51:46 | B4gder | unless your client can do the magic for you |
| 14:51:54 | lamed | goodie |
| 14:53:17 | lamed | what about b? anyone using them? i've just picked them up yesteday (before my battery died) and i thought they don't have enough treble in them. anyone? |
| 14:53:43 | B4gder | sound and listening is just soooo personal |
| 14:54:08 | B4gder | equipement praised by one person is flamed by the next |
| 14:54:52 | lamed | yeah, still, i could have got the mdr at 30$ more.. i'm just trying to figure out if i'm alone on that. anyways it has serious bass. |
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| 14:55:50 | Zagor | lamed: i don't like the koss plugs either. i much prefer the sonys. |
| 14:56:06 | * | ashridah shudders |
| 14:56:09 | ashridah | ugh, sony |
| 14:56:14 | ashridah | :) |
| 14:56:19 | Zagor | :-) |
| 14:56:41 | Zagor | I sooooo wanted the etymotics to be good :-( |
| 14:57:32 | lamed | zagor: have you tried the new ones? the 'spark plugs' are supposed to be better then 'koss the plug'. do you agree they are lacking of treble? |
| 14:57:36 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK ep0ch |
| 14:57:36 | ep0ch | i like my etymotics. good treble, little bass. Bass is overrated imho. |
| 14:57:53 | Zagor | lamed: oh, ok. no I have only tried "the plug". |
| 14:58:56 | lamed | have anyone tried jvc's plugs? |
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| 15:00:28 | lamed | ep0ch: haven't even heard of those. |
| 15:01:21 | ep0ch | http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er6i.aspx |
| 15:02:46 | lamed | 150 bucks?! damn... i would have got me a nice stereo in that price :D |
| 15:02:59 | Jungti1234 | LinusN |
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| 15:03:23 | ep0ch | brb something back with my font |
| 15:03:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 15:03:32 | ep0ch | back?? = wrong |
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| 15:03:50 | yngwi_away | hi all, i've got a question: is the song rating saved in the 1-255 scheme in the id3 tag? |
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| 15:04:36 | ep0ch | they're a lot cheaper on ebay |
| 15:04:42 | B4gder | yngwi_away: no |
| 15:04:53 | | Nick yngwi_away is now known as yngwi (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) |
| 15:05:28 | yngwi | hmm, 'cause i'd like to have a way of editing the rating on my pc... |
| 15:05:40 | yngwi | so its just saved rockbox internal |
| 15:05:53 | B4gder | its saved in the runtime db |
| 15:06:05 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: Can you know H300's bootloader was gone to where? |
| 15:06:14 | B4gder | you can write a tool for your PC to modify it |
| 15:06:40 | B4gder | Jungti1234: we don't ever do predictions on when things are done or complete |
| 15:06:43 | yngwi | yeah, thats what i was thinking also... I'd really would like to... |
| 15:07:06 | B4gder | me too |
| 15:07:10 | yngwi | do you see a way to use the complete DB on the PC in f.e. foobar? |
| 15:07:13 | Jungti1234 | B4gder: ah.. thank you. |
| 15:07:19 | yngwi | 'cause i'm noob |
| 15:07:28 | B4gder | yngwi: sure, if you just write the necessary code for it |
| 15:07:32 | yngwi | and just thinking of possibilities |
| 15:07:40 | yngwi | :-) i thought so |
| 15:07:45 | B4gder | not that I have any idea what foobar does or works |
| 15:08:00 | yngwi | I guess i'll have a look at that |
| 15:08:37 | B4gder | personally, I would rather have a better search plugin for the runtime db |
| 15:09:04 | yngwi | hmm is there a document on the DB in the wiki? |
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| 15:09:18 | yngwi | or do i have to look at the makedb tool code |
| 15:10:01 | B4gder | there is docs in the wiki |
| 15:10:08 | B4gder | I'm not sure how complete it is |
| 15:10:22 | yngwi | i know the one on the future plans for the db |
| 15:10:27 | B4gder | yngwi: the makedb tool doesn't make the runtimedb |
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| 15:11:02 | yngwi | hmm as i said, im noob :-) |
| 15:11:23 | B4gder | yngwi: there are two dbs, one with all the song info and one with all the runtime data |
| 15:11:36 | B4gder | the song data one is generated by a tool on the pc |
| 15:11:47 | B4gder | the runtime is generated by Rockbox itself |
| 15:12:22 | yngwi | hmm thanks, i'll take a look at the wiki... |
| 15:12:44 | yngwi | maybe there is something for me to do... |
| 15:12:56 | yngwi | which lies in my intellectual possibilities |
| 15:13:13 | B4gder | go go go! ;-) |
| 15:13:19 | yngwi | :-) |
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| 15:13:40 | yngwi | ok, bye then, have to cook something to fuel the brain.. |
| 15:13:45 | yngwi | and thanks |
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| 15:51:20 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 15:51:44 | Jungti1234 | The South Korea is 11:51 P.M. |
| 15:54:04 | Jungti1234 | good night |
| 15:55:11 | B4gder | pm is post mortem, right? ;-P |
| 15:55:59 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 15:56:16 | Jungti1234 | 12 A.M. arrived all. |
| 15:56:24 | Jungti1234 | It is very late night. |
| 15:56:25 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 15:56:32 | B4gder | night |
| 15:56:39 | Jungti1234 | ^^ |
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| 15:57:16 | markun | I think after 11 pm comes.. 12 pm. After that 1 am. A strange system. |
| 15:57:25 | B4gder | it is totally weird |
| 15:57:40 | ep0ch | yeah always baffled me |
| 15:57:54 | B4gder | I can never remember when 12am or pm are |
| 15:58:15 | ep0ch | or just use 24 hr clocks |
| 15:58:31 | LinusN | B4gder: that's because you are a militant european using "military time" |
| 15:58:36 | B4gder | hehe |
| 15:58:44 | B4gder | SIR YES SIR |
| 15:59:28 | korpse | 24 hour clocks solve all that confusion anyway |
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| 16:00:03 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 16:00:03 | * | ashridah notes he still gets confused by clocks. like when they suddenly go from being 22:00 to 03:00 |
| 16:00:16 | ashridah | and you think "holy crap, where did like 5 hours go?! |
| 16:00:23 | ashridah | and then realise that was 5 hours of quake4 :) |
| 16:00:33 | markun | :) |
| 16:00:34 | ep0ch | ah |
| 16:00:38 | korpse | or debugging :) |
| 16:00:48 | ep0ch | have you got to the scarey bit ashridah? |
| 16:01:02 | B4gder | ... or chatting on #Rockbox while you're supposed to work ;-) |
| 16:01:19 | ashridah | ep0ch: i've finished it. what scary bit? |
| 16:01:21 | markun | I was wondering what strange time changes there were in Australia that I was unaware of :) |
| 16:01:37 | ep0ch | when you get converted to a baddie |
| 16:01:40 | markun | B4gder: .. or study :( |
| 16:01:42 | B4gder | their time is up-side-down |
| 16:02:00 | ashridah | ep0ch: that's not scary |
| 16:02:11 | ashridah | scary is the money i need to get decent performance :( |
| 16:02:19 | ep0ch | i couldnt look when the needles and stuff were coming at me |
| 16:02:25 | ep0ch | ha |
| 16:02:29 | markun | Jungti1234 asked me when I will do a hangul (korean) input method for rockbox ;) |
| 16:03:28 | LinusN | i guess that might depend on the temperature in hell ;-) |
| 16:03:28 | markun | Maybe some koreans should start to help out with rockbox if they want all these features |
| 16:05:04 | B4gder | indeed |
| 16:07:09 | Zagor | re time weirdness: why is the common analog clock 12 hours, when the day we want to keep track of is 24? |
| 16:07:31 | Zagor | it's like a speedometer that only goes to 100 km/h, then wraps around |
| 16:07:37 | B4gder | I say we blame the church for that |
| 16:07:51 | Zagor | the church? |
| 16:07:59 | B4gder | I have no idea why, but it feels right ;-) |
| 16:08:04 | Zagor | haha |
| 16:09:15 | korpse | has the iRiver H300 series also been discontinued? |
| 16:09:24 | B4gder | not yet |
| 16:09:34 | B4gder | I think |
| 16:09:41 | LinusN | i htink it has |
| 16:09:49 | korpse | i think it has too |
| 16:09:58 | XavierGr | LinusN: Yesterday I was adviced to convert to Foobar200 from Winamp and so I did, well guess what |
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| 16:10:16 | XavierGr | blah |
| 16:10:26 | ep0ch | go on though |
| 16:10:26 | XavierGr | anyway |
| 16:10:35 | korpse | so the only iRiver HDD player still being produced is the H10? |
| 16:11:00 | XavierGr | Foobar has the same bug as rockbox regarding those mp3's of mine that show wrong total time. |
| 16:11:20 | XavierGr | (winamp and iriver fw show the time correctly) |
| 16:11:42 | B4gder | and you vbrfixed them? |
| 16:12:13 | XavierGr | no vbrfix does nothing, (infact iirc it says that they are not vbr files) |
| 16:12:39 | XavierGr | LinusN: Said from a quick look that it was a rockbox bug |
| 16:13:38 | XavierGr | aslo foobar has a hard time on these files, it can't load their tags |
| 16:14:03 | XavierGr | Imagine my suprise to see that Godfather (tag utility) lists all tags and foobar displays nothing... |
| 16:17:12 | B4gder | given the problems everyone has had with foobar, I'm not the least surprised |
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| 16:17:55 | XavierGr | come to think of it I was told that foobar was stable most customizable(it seems that way) and overall the best player |
| 16:18:16 | B4gder | I wouldn't know |
| 16:18:48 | B4gder | me linux dude |
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| 16:19:20 | ep0ch | XavierGr: are any of these files hosted somewhere? i may take a look when i have chance |
| 16:19:56 | XavierGr | hmm where to host them.... |
| 16:20:02 | linuxstb | B4gder: Are there _any_ decent audio players for Linux? i.e. gapless and filetree based? I'm almost tempted to make the Rockbox sim my player. |
| 16:21:18 | ep0ch | linuxstb: cant think of any decent gapless ones, does the sim hog the cpu in linux? under windows it hogs the cpu like crazy. |
| 16:22:30 | markun | beep-media-player (xmms2) is gapless with my ogg files |
| 16:22:36 | XavierGr | ep0ch: thanks for offering to check them, unfortunately right now I am in a hurry, when I get back from work I will try to find a place to upload them... |
| 16:23:11 | ep0ch | XavierGr: no rush, i'm busy till tomorrow now |
| 16:24:38 | XavierGr | okay problem here (unrelated to rockbox): |
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| 16:25:27 | XavierGr | in my gmail I account I have received twice an "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" mail with mails that I didn't send to anyone. |
| 16:25:51 | XavierGr | I don't know much about the subject but could this be a mail hijack. |
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| 16:26:08 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Yes, it's spam or a virus or whatever. Just delete them. |
| 16:26:12 | Zagor | XavierGr: someone is simply sending spam in your name. it's normal, unfortunately. |
| 16:26:17 | linuxstb | That's quite a common trick. |
| 16:26:58 | linuxstb | It's clever because they attach "your" original message as an attachment. So when you double-click on it to see what you sent... |
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| 16:28:18 | XavierGr | arg! that has started when I mistyped "here" my email address, instead of typing "at" i typed "@" thus making the whole address availble to search bots.... I am an idiot.... |
| 16:29:46 | ep0ch | gone |
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| 16:38:10 | _FireFly_ | hiho |
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| 17:17:19 | preglow | pretty please can't we too! |
| 17:17:38 | preglow | are there any good tools to do such a conversion, btw? |
| 17:17:52 | linuxstb | We are all old and grumpy and don't like change. |
| 17:18:04 | B4gder | preglow: yes, there's a neat cvs2svn thing |
| 17:18:28 | linuxstb | I believe ffmpeg are about to change over to svn as well. |
| 17:19:00 | preglow | i don't even know what would be the benefits from such a change |
| 17:19:04 | preglow | apart from svn being slightly less hackish |
| 17:19:12 | preglow | but svn is all i've used personally, at least |
| 17:19:12 | B4gder | mv |
| 17:19:14 | linuxstb | I think the main advantage is renaming and moving |
| 17:19:15 | B4gder | to mention one |
| 17:19:18 | preglow | yes |
| 17:19:21 | preglow | that i've got |
| 17:19:29 | korpse | svn doesn't even implement renaming |
| 17:19:41 | preglow | but dinner |
| 17:19:41 | preglow | brb |
| 17:19:57 | korpse | well, it thinks it does...but actually it just knows how to delete files and add new ones that look identical |
| 17:20:13 | B4gder | and the "add" part copies the history |
| 17:20:41 | korpse | dunno about this project, but our projects are work are quite "branchy" |
| 17:20:43 | B4gder | so yes, it isn't perfect |
| 17:20:48 | korpse | and subversion's merging abilities are pretty dismal |
| 17:20:49 | B4gder | but far away from cvs mess |
| 17:21:10 | korpse | oh yeah, compared to CVS SVN is a bowl of cornflakes |
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| 18:04:41 | _user_ | _FireFly_: the "independent visible selection for the statusbar" patch doesnt work on the latest cvs build |
| 18:05:59 | * | preglow does the ipod nano dance |
| 18:06:32 | _FireFly_ | i know but i'm busy to create wps-widget |
| 18:06:45 | _FireFly_ | so i have currently no time to update it |
| 18:06:52 | _FireFly_ | sorry |
| 18:06:55 | _user_ | i see |
| 18:07:03 | _user_ | is there a simple way for me to fix that? |
| 18:09:40 | _FireFly_ | it depends how good your undstanding and/or skill about the programming language c is |
| 18:10:11 | preglow | linuxstb: our plan is to make rockbox on ipod use the file system just like any rockbox,yes? none of the itunes database nonsense? |
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| 18:11:50 | linuxstb | preglow: Personally I will be very happy to dump the database and just use the ipod like I use the H140. |
| 18:11:59 | preglow | then hooray! |
| 18:12:11 | preglow | problem is you can't use both rockbox and the apple firmware |
| 18:12:20 | preglow | but can't say i care about that at all |
| 18:12:25 | linuxstb | But there will definitely be a demand for users for support for the database. |
| 18:12:34 | linuxstb | s/for users/from users/ |
| 18:13:44 | linuxstb | But a practical problem (I think) is that you can't store the details on MP2, FLAC, Wavpack, Ogg etc files in the database. Only files supported by Apple's firmware are synced to the ipod and stored in the ipod version of the itunesdb. |
| 18:14:10 | linuxstb | So you will end up with two music collections. |
| 18:16:17 | preglow | or one ,if you just ditch the apple part |
| 18:16:19 | preglow | which i intend to |
| 18:18:50 | preglow | but i'd actually like a hfs driver |
| 18:18:55 | preglow | let's hope someone volunteers to do that |
| 18:21:22 | linuxstb | The big question for you: White or Black Nano? |
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| 18:22:20 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 18:22:24 | preglow | linuxstb: white |
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| 18:23:41 | preglow | caught your photo yesterday, really makes me look forward to taking part in the port :) |
| 18:25:08 | linuxstb | I hope it's soon. |
| 18:25:15 | preglow | we shall see |
| 18:25:24 | preglow | theoretically, the money should arrive tomorrow |
| 18:25:30 | preglow | in which case i'll also order one tomorrow |
| 18:26:28 | preglow | if i can find a store around that sells them at decent prices, i might just go buy it in a shop as well |
| 18:26:56 | preglow | considering i live in oslo, that should be possible |
| 18:37:42 | _FireFly_ | argh my motivation is currently very tiny |
| 18:39:29 | preglow | for doing what? |
| 18:39:58 | _FireFly_ | to do the wps-widget |
| 18:41:57 | preglow | then don't do it! |
| 18:41:58 | preglow | hehe |
| 18:42:02 | preglow | no one is forcing you |
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| 18:42:40 | _FireFly_ | the problem is i want it to do :) |
| 18:43:02 | Coldtoast | hey all |
| 18:43:09 | Coldtoast | so how does the new crossfading work? |
| 18:43:33 | Coldtoast | if I wanted to get the same sounding 2 sec mix crossfade as before but with the new implementation? |
| 18:44:12 | preglow | i guess you choose 1 sec for both the crossfade times |
| 18:44:45 | Coldtoast | I thought I'd just have to leave the Fade Out Delay and Fade Out Duration at 0, leave Fade In Delay at 0s and Crossfade Duration at 2secs for a 2 sec mix crossfade? |
| 18:45:08 | Coldtoast | errr. Fade In Duration I mean |
| 18:45:38 | Coldtoast | when I do, the previous track doesn't fade to silence |
| 18:46:34 | preglow | like i said |
| 18:46:40 | preglow | i would expect both delayls to be 0 |
| 18:46:46 | preglow | and both of the times to be 1 |
| 18:47:34 | Coldtoast | ok. but why? it seems more logical that you'd leave Fade In Duration at 0 also cos in Mix mode, the next track doesn't fade |
| 18:48:27 | _FireFly_ | preglow the main struct are ready i have only adept the functions to the new structs :=) |
| 18:49:14 | preglow | Coldtoast: i have no idea, then |
| 18:49:17 | preglow | Coldtoast: i haven't even tried it |
| 18:49:21 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 18:49:43 | Coldtoast | also, it seems, cos you have these individual settings, there's no need to even have a Mode setting |
| 18:50:07 | preglow | that might be true |
| 18:50:29 | preglow | i thought with mix that no fading happened at all |
| 18:50:37 | Coldtoast | cos you'd, logically, set Fade Out Duration and Fade In durations to get Crossfade mode and leave Fade In Duration at 0s and set Fade Out Duration to get Mix |
| 18:51:35 | Coldtoast | I just did what you suggested; setting Fade In Duration and Fade Out Duration and the previous track still doesn't fade to silence |
| 18:51:40 | Coldtoast | it fades to quiet then cuts off |
| 18:52:25 | preglow | anyone know what complexity hfs has as opposed to fat32? |
| 18:52:53 | Coldtoast | ah. I sett Mode to Crossfade instead of Mix and it worksas I'd have expected |
| 18:54:17 | Slasher | Hmm, just trying to get eeprom working but so far i haven't got any response from the chip to i2c commands :P |
| 18:54:48 | Coldtoast | hey Slasher. how's the military? |
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| 18:55:16 | Coldtoast | ooh! btw. the new Bejewelled plugin is awesome :) |
| 18:55:27 | Coldtoast | just a shame about the bloody joystick on the h1x0 |
| 18:55:34 | Slasher | Coldtoast: the service is going on, not so bad now. At least i have little time for other projects as well :) Still 288 days left |
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| 18:55:56 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 18:57:00 | * | amiconn reads up today's log |
| 18:57:13 | preglow | amiconn: flasheri has struck again! |
| 18:57:40 | Slasher | :D |
| 18:58:25 | preglow | no wonder why people think finns are drunk all the time when they go around flashing their units without a bdm handy |
| 18:58:39 | Slasher | preglow: it was weird because rockbox booted from the flash at first try after i thought i have set the linker file correctly :) |
| 18:58:44 | preglow | someone send him a viking helmet |
| 18:58:59 | Slasher | haha |
| 18:59:09 | Coldtoast | went into one of the camera stores here a week or two ago and they ACTUALLY have h140s in |
| 18:59:11 | preglow | Slasher: you thought? didn't you set it correctly? ;) |
| 18:59:16 | Slasher | :D |
| 18:59:21 | Coldtoast | for $120 more than I paid for mine last November |
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| 19:00:44 | Coldtoast | I found a way to get far better bass using Rockbox with my earphones too |
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| 19:01:19 | Coldtoast | on each earpiece, there's a rubber seal around the outside. Removed it and the earphones go slightly further into my earholes. hehe |
| 19:01:28 | preglow | Slasher: btw, did you notice any performance differences? |
| 19:01:38 | Coldtoast | now there's SO much bass I keep giving myself a headache at the gym from listening to Opeth too loud |
| 19:02:01 | preglow | only volume i listen to opeth at is 'too loud', usually |
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| 19:02:16 | Slasher | preglow: without a test i cannot notice any difference. I will try to do that measurement soon (basically the flash read performance test) |
| 19:02:20 | Coldtoast | yep. it's the law |
| 19:03:52 | Coldtoast | I reckon you should get rid of the Fade Out Mode setting completely |
| 19:03:52 | Slasher | preglow: at least it's very certain that we can run rockbox directly from rom |
| 19:03:56 | preglow | Slasher: sounds really, really good |
| 19:04:00 | Slasher | :) |
| 19:04:09 | preglow | i've been looking forward to rockbox from flash |
| 19:04:19 | Coldtoast | I like the way you've implemented rockbox myself |
| 19:04:32 | Coldtoast | cos it means you can update very very easily and quickly |
| 19:05:42 | preglow | Coldtoast: sure, in a non-development situation i'd like to flash it myself |
| 19:05:51 | preglow | as soon as we get builds that are stable enough ;) |
| 19:06:03 | preglow | but i like the disk based mode |
| 19:06:07 | preglow | and that's always going to be there |
| 19:06:12 | Coldtoast | ah cool |
| 19:06:34 | Coldtoast | is there any way AT ALL you can completely replace the iriver code? :) |
| 19:06:37 | Slasher | yep, the flashing would always remain optional |
| 19:06:50 | Slasher | Coldtoast: i have already replaced it :P |
| 19:06:52 | Slasher | everything |
| 19:06:55 | Coldtoast | heh |
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| 19:07:21 | Coldtoast | I no longer "need" to use the iriver fw to get extra bass with SRS |
| 19:07:29 | mattzz | long time no see - hi everyone |
| 19:07:37 | Coldtoast | since I pulled those little rubber seals off of my earphones |
| 19:08:27 | Coldtoast | I tried the iriver fw today and nearly blew my eardrums out with the same settings I was using with my unmodded earphones |
| 19:09:25 | linuxstb | bbl |
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| 19:10:37 | Coldtoast | do you think 2.6 will also be a h1x0 release? |
| 19:10:52 | preglow | i hope so |
| 19:11:16 | Coldtoast | it'll be inredibly cool when there's h3x0 support. To see the reaction my friend has when he starts using Rockbox |
| 19:11:17 | preglow | but of course, we'll call it 3.0! |
| 19:12:04 | amiconn | Slasher: I expected that rockbox would run with no probs from rom, as we already have it (optionally) running from rom on archos |
| 19:12:09 | Coldtoast | especially when the mp4 support is working |
| 19:12:35 | amiconn | There were some bugs to catch when rombox was implemented |
| 19:12:50 | amiconn | (like the open() function not working correctly) |
| 19:13:02 | amiconn | I should know.... |
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| 19:40:43 | chiller | Hi, awesome project :) |
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| 19:42:49 | yngwi | hi, does anyone know a program where i can strip ALL additional info from an mp3 (id3, mp3gain,...)? |
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| 19:52:56 | chiller | Anyone have a recent build for iRiver that is known to work? :) |
| 19:54:58 | yngwi | doesn't the daily build work? |
| 19:55:03 | yngwi | for me it does |
| 19:55:40 | chiller | No, I get "codec error" |
| 19:55:54 | chiller | But I think I found the solution on the forum |
| 19:56:01 | ghode|afk | make sure you've replaced all the folders |
| 19:56:28 | chiller | ghode|afk: was my first install, so no previous rockbox content there |
| 19:56:38 | chiller | Trying with yesterdays build now |
| 19:56:59 | ghode|afk | ok, make sure you copy over the .rockbox folder from the zip as well |
| 19:57:08 | chiller | ah, that worked :) |
| 19:57:21 | ghode|afk | have fun :p |
| 19:57:25 | chiller | Oh yeah :) |
| 19:58:58 | amiconn | Today's daily won't work, but the bleeding edge should |
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| 20:00:49 | chiller | uhm, what is supposed to happen when I enter the "rockbox" folder? |
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| 20:04:03 | yngwi | it depends on the "default" settings which i cannot remember.... |
| 20:04:15 | yngwi | i guess you should see nothing on the iriver |
| 20:04:27 | yngwi | or did you mean on pc? |
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| 20:11:57 | chiller | the iriver |
| 20:12:20 | chiller | ROLO... loading |
| 20:12:24 | chiller | ROLO... executing |
| 20:12:40 | chiller | then it just starts like normal. |
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| 20:25:33 | dpassen1 | sounds like your clicking on the rockbox.iriver file to me |
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| 20:32:22 | XavierGr | wtf why cvs diff cant work with a script copied source folder |
| 20:32:38 | XavierGr | (it works if I just copy the source directory my self) |
| 20:33:42 | _FireFly_ | CVS-dir forgotten ?? |
| 20:34:04 | XavierGr | ? |
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| 20:34:10 | XavierGr | didn't got that |
| 20:38:43 | XavierGr | even cvs update will not work with the source folder copied by the script |
| 20:39:06 | XavierGr | but I can't understand the difference between copying it myslef or via the script |
| 20:39:14 | amiconn | You can't just move a cvs working copy to another dir and expect it to work |
| 20:39:33 | XavierGr | but it works when I do it manually |
| 20:39:40 | amiconn | The CVS sub-dirs contain configuration data that includes the absolute path |
| 20:39:56 | amiconn | It appears to work as long as you don't remove the original |
| 20:40:12 | XavierGr | yes I havn't removed the original |
| 20:40:18 | XavierGr | in BOTH cases |
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| 20:40:42 | XavierGr | and when I copy it my self and make a diff |
| 20:40:57 | XavierGr | the diff is for the new copied CVS and not the old one so... |
| 20:41:26 | linuxstb_ | CVS working directories should be fully relocatable. I do it all the time. |
| 20:41:55 | linuxstb_ | The CVS directory contains the details of that directory's location in the CVS repository - not any local paths. |
| 20:42:04 | amiconn | Seems I was wrong... |
| 20:42:37 | linuxstb_ | XavierGr: When you type "cvs diff", which directory are you in? |
| 20:42:50 | XavierGr | that's my case, while it works when doing by hand it will not accept it via a script copied folder |
| 20:42:56 | XavierGr | linuxstb_: The cvs root |
| 20:43:01 | XavierGr | e.g |
| 20:43:06 | linuxstb_ | Is there a "CVS" directory in that directory? |
| 20:43:15 | XavierGr | rockbox-devel is the original CVS |
| 20:43:29 | XavierGr | the I copy it to the parent directory as '1' |
| 20:43:37 | XavierGr | and then cd 1 and cvs diff |
| 20:43:48 | XavierGr | yes there is a CVS folder |
| 20:43:54 | linuxstb_ | So mydir/rockbox-devel is copied to mydir/1 |
| 20:44:20 | XavierGr | yes |
| 20:45:04 | linuxstb_ | Try a diff between those two directories. |
| 20:45:16 | linuxstb_ | i.e. cd mydir ; diff -r rockbox-devel 1 |
| 20:47:06 | XavierGr | hmm only the tools folder is different and that's because in the script I typed to make the tools |
| 20:48:29 | XavierGr | here is the script but I doubt I have done something wrong |
| 20:48:30 | XavierGr | http://pastebin.com/422082 |
| 20:48:55 | XavierGr | lines 16,17 contain the copy commands |
| 20:52:01 | linuxstb_ | would make the cp command "cp -pr" (to preserve date and time information). But I don't think that would stop things working. |
| 20:52:38 | XavierGr | well I just commented the lines that make the tools nad subdirectory '1' |
| 20:52:51 | XavierGr | then I diffed and there was no output between CVSes |
| 20:53:06 | XavierGr | they are identical I can't really understand why is this |
| 20:53:14 | XavierGr | I will try the cp -pr |
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| 20:55:01 | XavierGr | linuxstb: You rock that was it. |
| 20:55:18 | XavierGr | the -pr did the trick and now the CVS instance works |
| 20:55:22 | linuxstb_ | Interesting that that stopped it working. |
| 20:55:38 | linuxstb_ | Obviously CVS cares about timestamps. |
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| 20:55:55 | XavierGr | indeed, I would have never thought that |
| 20:56:03 | linuxstb_ | I always use -p when copying files, so I never ran into that problem. |
| 20:56:15 | XavierGr | (in fact I did't even know about that argument) |
| 20:56:46 | XavierGr | I use cygwin so maybe windows copy and linux copy have their differences... |
| 20:57:47 | linuxstb_ | I would expect cygwin to behave the same as Linux - they are probably running the same cp command. |
| 20:58:20 | linuxstb_ | cp −−version gives "cp (coreutils) 5.2.1" for me. |
| 20:58:46 | XavierGr | cp (fileutils) 4.1 |
| 20:58:49 | XavierGr | :x |
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| 21:00:47 | XavierGr | it was a very strange behaviour indeed... |
| 21:01:22 | XavierGr | when I typed cvs "something" full upload activity was shown for my network but nothing would happen |
| 21:01:32 | XavierGr | I am wondering what it was uploading... |
| 21:05:45 | XavierGr | Hunk #6 succeeded at 980 with fuzz 1 (offset 4 lines) |
| 21:05:52 | XavierGr | is that to worry about... |
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| 22:12:01 | * | amiconn now has an optimised h1x0 remote lcd driver |
| 22:12:38 | amiconn | Much less lag in the preset list when the remote is plugged |
| 22:16:19 | amiconn | It's not 100% clean though - it might cause problems when used from an isr and a cpu frequency increase was initiated just before the interrupt |
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| 22:27:40 | preglow | optimised as in asm? |
| 22:27:46 | amiconn | yes |
| 22:28:03 | amiconn | asm itself didn't help much though. |
| 22:28:30 | amiconn | In addition, it uses precaclulated port values instead of read-modify-write logical operations |
| 22:28:43 | amiconn | Needs to disable interrupts for that |
| 22:29:25 | amiconn | Does that for each byte transferred (disable ints - precalculate port values - clock out byte - enable ints) |
| 22:29:29 | * | linuxstb notes a GPL license debate starting on #ipodlinux... |
| 22:29:44 | amiconn | The output itself is unrolled |
| 22:30:44 | amiconn | This optimised routine can only be used for low clock frequencies, because otherwise we'd exceed the lcd specs |
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| 22:38:42 | preglow | linuxstb_: no nano testing of the bootloader yet, i take it? |
| 22:39:34 | linuxstb | No. Complete lack of interest from that side of my monitor. |
| 22:39:50 | preglow | tsk tsk |
| 22:40:10 | preglow | let's hope the money transfer goes well, so i can try |
| 22:40:40 | linuxstb | I'm sure it will be fine. I expect to see photos tomorrow night... |
| 22:40:46 | Bagder | hehe |
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| 22:45:01 | preglow | let's hope so |
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| 22:54:07 | LinusN | amiconn: who would call the remote lcd driver from an isr? |
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| 22:54:58 | amiconn | Shouldn't happen during normal use, but if someone wants to implement a remote-grayscale-lib ... |
| 22:55:35 | LinusN | then let him deal with it |
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| 22:55:55 | LinusN | ("him" is probably amiconn) |
| 22:56:11 | amiconn | Not very likely... |
| 22:57:00 | amiconn | It can be made a bit safer, by setting the new cpu_frequency value earlier when switching frequencies |
| 22:58:02 | amiconn | I'm also not 100% sure about the timing, i.e. up to what frequency it stays within lcd specs |
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| 23:04:59 | amiconn | LinusN: If you could take a look at it... amiconn.dyndns.org/remote_lcd.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/remote_lcd.diff |
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| 23:11:26 | amiconn | hmpf. |
| 23:17:15 | LinusN | amiconn: i don't have time right now to examine the timing, but i trust you have calculated correctly |
| 23:18:05 | LinusN | one thing that might be a problem is that the lcd comm lines are quite long, and are subject to interference |
| 23:18:26 | LinusN | from audio, external electric fields etc |
| 23:18:45 | LinusN | time will tell, i guess |
| 23:19:14 | LinusN | still, the asm optimization is only for the lowest frequencies anyway |
| 23:19:27 | amiconn | Yes. |
| 23:19:35 | linuxstb_ | I didn't think my ipod bootloader instructions would be so long. And this is the brief version: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot |
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| 23:20:14 | amiconn | The min. cycle time of the lcd serial comm is 250 ns, with each high time and low time having a minimum of 100 ns |
| 23:21:56 | amiconn | The minimum high/low times are guaranteed with bus clock <= 10 MHz |
| 23:21:57 | LinusN | linuxstb: nice |
| 23:22:34 | * | LinusN is singlestepping h300 code |
| 23:22:35 | Bagder | nice plus |
| 23:22:40 | amiconn | That also guarantees the cycle time, because clock and data are on different gpio ports, so they can't be set at once :( |
| 23:22:49 | preglow | ooh |
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| 23:23:25 | LinusN | so far it looks like the lcd data sheets we have are very close, but no cigar |
| 23:23:37 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I knew you would be asking for some instructions soon... |
| 23:23:46 | Bagder | LinusN: painful? |
| 23:23:47 | preglow | let's hope so |
| 23:23:58 | LinusN | Bagder: nah |
| 23:24:21 | LinusN | i disassembled the original lcd setup and compared to the data sheets |
| 23:24:40 | LinusN | *very* close |
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| 23:24:55 | linuxstb_ | What drivers need to be written for the H300 bootloader. Is it mainly the LCD? |
| 23:24:59 | Bagder | ok |
| 23:25:01 | LinusN | but they set a few bits in some regs that are marked "undefined" in the sheets |
| 23:25:14 | LinusN | linuxstb: lcd and power control |
| 23:25:17 | preglow | linuxstb_: so it's more or less impossible to brick an ipod? |
| 23:26:06 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I hope so. I've run some quite bad code, and the only reason the reset key combination hasn't worked is because I had accidentally turned the hold switch on... |
| 23:26:37 | linuxstb_ | So yes, I think it's as safe as it could be. |
| 23:26:56 | linuxstb_ | The only potential problem is if the code actually damages the hardware in some way. |
| 23:27:44 | LinusN | that's something that seems very possible on the h300... |
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| 23:28:35 | preglow | LinusN: oh? |
| 23:28:57 | linuxstb_ | I think all the ipodlinux development has been done the same way I am working - and I don't think they ever bricked an iPod. |
| 23:29:53 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I'm assuming you have access to a Linux box you can plug an ipod into? |
| 23:29:59 | preglow | linuxstb_: sure |
| 23:30:09 | preglow | i've got a 64 bit ubuntu install |
| 23:30:49 | preglow | which runs dd like a dream, heh |
| 23:31:11 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: Are you going to be running the LCD in 18-bit mode immediately? Is it even possible to choose other modes? |
| 23:31:50 | LinusN | there are other modes, but i guess we'll run the 18-bit mode |
| 23:32:38 | linuxstb_ | Have you decided how the framebuffer will be organised? I'm thinking that others could help with the higher-level LCD code. |
| 23:33:16 | LinusN | btw, i think it would be easiest if we used the 16-bit mode, since the interface is 16-bit |
| 23:33:43 | linuxstb_ | In which case, we can unify the ipod and H300 code. |
| 23:33:56 | LinusN | good idea |
| 23:34:18 | linuxstb_ | My code is a very long way from being finished. But it's enough for a bootloader. |
| 23:35:03 | linuxstb_ | I named the file lcd-16bit.c for that very reason. Very little code is actually related to the low-level LCD. |
| 23:38:17 | amiconn | LinusN: Btw, do you think the new reset method in UIE() is okay? |
| 23:39:29 | LinusN | looks great |
| 23:40:27 | amiconn | Yeah, simple and effective. I couldn't figure another way to get completely out of emulator mode. |
| 23:41:04 | amiconn | I made it call system_reboot() successfully with special rte magic, but the bootloader then failed with an ata error -42 |
| 23:41:18 | amiconn | The watchdog just does the trick |
| 23:41:50 | amiconn | We could do the same on archos too; iirc system_reboot won't always work |
| 23:42:03 | LinusN | definitely a good idea |
| 23:49:57 | XavierGr | koitaxe ta dinei 423 euro |
| 23:49:59 | XavierGr | alla kai pali |
| 23:50:03 | XavierGr | poli einai |
| 23:50:17 | LinusN | XavierGr: ??? |
| 23:50:27 | XavierGr | oops |
| 23:50:31 | XavierGr | soorry wrong window |
| 23:50:44 | XavierGr | my god, sorry again |
| 23:52:00 | XavierGr | amiconn: Is there any relation between the ticking issues on some remotes and your new code? |
| 23:52:07 | XavierGr | I mean will it get better? |
| 23:52:15 | amiconn | I have no idea, my remote doesn't tick |
| 23:52:30 | amiconn | Perhaps you could try? |
| 23:52:43 | XavierGr | of course |
| 23:52:52 | amiconn | If it has any effect, it does so in radio mode only |
| 23:53:13 | amiconn | (in fact any mode that idles the cpu) |
| 23:53:19 | XavierGr | then it will make a diffrence for sure |
| 23:54:11 | XavierGr | link or a diff? |
| 23:55:44 | amiconn | I just committed it... |
| 23:55:57 | XavierGr | oh great then |
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