| 00:00:03 | davidc__ | the 0x00060000 all ahve the old lcd |
| 00:00:08 | davidc__ | their hardware is very similar to the photo |
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| 00:00:23 | davidc__ | the 0x00060004's ahve a combo of old and new |
| 00:00:30 | davidc__ | and detecting that is really strange |
| 00:00:38 | davidc__ | preglow: we think there is some mailboxing code. |
| 00:00:51 | linuxstb | I saw leachbj make about 4 CVS commits before that worked. |
| 00:01:05 | davidc__ | yeah.. its a bunch of bizzare gpio stuff |
| 00:01:20 | linuxstb | And there's no way for a user to know either, afaik. |
| 00:02:00 | davidc__ | not that we know of |
| 00:02:07 | linuxstb | So our current bootloader should work on your ipod. |
| 00:02:20 | davidc__ | I'll check it out when I get home |
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| 00:03:09 | davidc__ | if we were going to adopt the one you guys have [that kinda bootloader is on our todo list, just hasn't been done yet] we would probably add hfs+ support |
| 00:03:21 | davidc__ | how tight is the filesystem code in there? |
| 00:03:25 | linuxstb | That would be very nice. |
| 00:03:26 | davidc__ | is it easy to add a new filesystem? |
| 00:03:32 | preglow | hmm... |
| 00:03:34 | preglow | might be |
| 00:03:44 | * | preglow prods amiconn |
| 00:03:51 | davidc__ | well, for the bootloader it would just need to be read only |
| 00:04:02 | davidc__ | and if we were to be really lazy, just make it read the root dir only |
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| 00:04:35 | davidc__ | thats all you need to do to grab a single file |
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| 00:05:02 | linuxstb | Something we're missing is a GUI installer for Windows and Mac users - it seems you have that area covered already. |
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| 00:05:24 | davidc__ | they're not really official projects of us |
| 00:05:29 | davidc__ | others ahve written then |
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| 00:05:35 | davidc__ | and they horribly break nanos for your reference ;) |
| 00:05:39 | ender` | linuxstb: what kind of a GUI installer? |
| 00:05:50 | webguest15 | NEED HELP: Does somebody uses IRC over Trillian??? |
| 00:06:04 | linuxstb | ender`: Something that performs raw writes to the hard disk in the ipod and repartitions the disk. |
| 00:06:20 | webguest15 | i use now the web-irc from rockbox but i want to use it with trillian |
| 00:06:27 | linuxstb | It will be needed for Windows users to install the ipod bootloader. |
| 00:06:34 | ender` | oh, for ipod only |
| 00:06:51 | linuxstb | Yes, we're just talking ipod atm. |
| 00:07:03 | webguest15 | do i need to register? i just added a random username and irc.freenode.net::6667 ... now i am connected but i cant open a chat window |
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| 00:07:40 | speed123 | its working, ok |
| 00:07:41 | linuxstb | davidc__: I think HFS would be very welcome in Rockbox. It would mean Mac users of any of the supported devices could switch to their native filesystem. |
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| 00:07:57 | amiconn | preglow: I think adding a completely new filesystem will be difficult. I'm not a filesystem expert, but the file and dir code is pretty much tailored for fat afaik |
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| 00:08:36 | davidc__ | does rockbox rely on write support? |
| 00:08:53 | davidc__ | if its gonna be really hard to add a new filesystem? |
| 00:09:09 | Cassandra | Absolutely. Lots of stuff gets written to disk. |
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| 00:09:40 | Bagder | can a music player do good without? |
| 00:10:06 | Bagder | resume, settings, etc |
| 00:10:12 | amiconn | rockbox doesn't rely heavily on write support, at least not for development |
| 00:10:26 | amiconn | The current settings are stored outside the filesystem |
| 00:11:00 | davidc__ | an easy way to do write support is to support not resizing files |
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| 00:11:01 | amiconn | Rockbox did run happily on Ondio when there was no write support in the MMC driver |
| 00:11:04 | davidc__ | thats almost as easy as pure read |
| 00:11:06 | Bagder | yes, it could boot fine without write |
| 00:11:45 | amiconn | ...means it was able to play music etc. Of course no settings changes survived a reboot |
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| 00:12:01 | Bagder | it was less featurepacked |
| 00:12:16 | linuxstb | davidc__: Do the HFS ipods still have a large boot partition? |
| 00:12:22 | davidc__ | nope |
| 00:12:38 | davidc__ | on hfs+ ipods everything cept the kernel is on hfs+ |
| 00:12:46 | davidc__ | only the kernel goes into that firmware partition |
| 00:13:01 | davidc__ | on fat ipods we need to create that ext2 stub because fat + /dev get bitchy |
| 00:13:17 | linuxstb | Yes, I was talking about the firmware parition - i.e. the first partition. |
| 00:13:30 | davidc__ | well, every ipod has that first partition |
| 00:13:41 | davidc__ | and it has to be there because the ipods flash bootloader looks at that |
| 00:13:48 | davidc__ | and we really would rather not tamper with flash |
| 00:13:58 | davidc__ | you know how the ipod boot process works right? |
| 00:14:16 | linuxstb | So ignoring Linux, the HFS and FAT32 ipods the same, apart from the filesystem on the second partition? |
| 00:14:36 | davidc__ | well, there is one more variation |
| 00:14:54 | davidc__ | mac ipods have an Apple Partition Table partition in the first partition |
| 00:14:58 | davidc__ | just to make things more fun |
| 00:15:20 | davidc__ | basically the way it ends up for us, the root partition is always partition 3 |
| 00:15:23 | davidc__ | which makes life a bit easier |
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| 00:21:10 | amiconn | Teh 16 bit lcd driver needs loadsa work :/ |
| 00:22:36 | davidc__ | I gotta go back to work |
| 00:22:40 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes. |
| 00:22:40 | davidc__ | back in 45 |
| 00:22:52 | linuxstb | davidc__: See you later. Thanks for the info. |
| 00:25:02 | linuxstb | amiconn: What's your solution for the get_*ground functions? |
| 00:25:55 | amiconn | lcd_set_*ground() and lcd_get_*ground() need to be changed |
| 00:26:16 | linuxstb | The green bitmask is wrong in those functions - it should be 0x07e0 |
| 00:26:19 | amiconn | They're supposed to take resp. return values in the lcd range, not in 0..255 range |
| 00:26:57 | amiconn | ...but there's more, which I will work on as soon as I've committed 16 bit support for the win32 sim :) |
| 00:27:18 | linuxstb | Ah OK. |
| 00:27:51 | amiconn | ..which I am about to; just some final test builds to avoid RED |
| 00:28:04 | linuxstb | Are you building the ipod sims? |
| 00:28:51 | amiconn | No, H300 |
| 00:29:51 | preglow | does leach and the fellows document their findings in any way other than source code? |
| 00:30:18 | amiconn | For building Ipod I would (1) need proper images and (2) a proper button assignment |
| 00:30:39 | linuxstb | Only what's on the wiki pages I think. I think it's just in their heads. |
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| 00:32:05 | amiconn | In fact adding 16 bit (and 24 bit) support to the windows sim is simple: Just replace the 8bit display bitmap with a 32bit one, supply a colourmap for when windows runs on a <=8 bit display, add the bit fiddling to lcd_update(_rect)() and you're done |
| 00:32:44 | amiconn | Now compare this to the x11 way of doing things ;) |
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| 00:43:10 | * | Cassandra wonders how evil hardcoding a wps_reset when a request to load "/.rockbox/wps/rockbox_default.wps" is made. |
| 00:43:13 | Cassandra | os |
| 00:43:13 | Cassandra | is |
| 00:43:16 | Cassandra | even |
| 00:43:52 | Cassandra | That way we just dump a dummy rockbox_default.wps in the wps dir and it works for both platforms. |
| 00:44:15 | Cassandra | On the downside, user gets a surprise if they try to edit rockbox_default.wps, since it's never actually loaded. |
| 00:44:29 | Cassandra | all platforms, even. |
| 00:45:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | You might be able to remove the default file |
| 00:45:54 | Cassandra | Well, you would, but then there'd be no way to select it for 'loading'. |
| 00:45:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | And then, when a user chooses to browse WPS, add a "default" option that's there even though there's no file present. |
| 00:46:16 | Cassandra | Still, if you muck about with files installed by rockbox, you're pretty much asking for trouble. |
| 00:46:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Much like there's no *actual* .. folder, even though you often see a visual representation of it. |
| 00:46:44 | Cassandra | Ah, yes. That makes the code more complex though. |
| 00:46:55 | Cassandra | I'll just go see how feasible that is. |
| 00:47:05 | * | Cassandra is the worlds laziest coder. |
| 00:47:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 00:47:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wouldn't bet on that. |
| 00:47:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wasn't going for the "easiest" solution... more a "What I'd say would be best." :) |
| 00:48:58 | Cassandra | *nod* |
| 00:51:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Of course, if I really wanted it that badly, I'd go and do it. :-P |
| 00:52:12 | Cassandra | You know, I've just remembered why I hate the dirbrowse code. |
| 00:54:18 | TiMiD | why ? |
| 00:54:33 | Cassandra | It hurts my head. |
| 00:54:34 | TiMiD | (I also hate it ...) |
| 00:54:43 | Cassandra | To be fair a lot of Rockbox hurts my head. |
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| 00:54:51 | TiMiD | hehe |
| 00:54:56 | TiMiD | me too |
| 00:54:58 | Cassandra | Full of special cases and other nastiness. |
| 00:55:03 | TiMiD | not oo programming |
| 00:55:43 | TiMiD | lot of parts of the code could be made easier to read by just organizing the code better |
| 00:56:15 | TiMiD | taht would allow programmers to use the other's code more easily |
| 00:56:48 | Cassandra | Rockbox evolved organically. |
| 00:56:59 | Cassandra | It really could do with a ground up rewrite. |
| 00:57:00 | TiMiD | organically ? |
| 00:57:07 | Cassandra | But no-one really has the time. |
| 00:57:12 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 00:57:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | As in: Without a plan. |
| 00:57:23 | TiMiD | ok :) |
| 00:57:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | It evolved based on need and want. |
| 00:57:29 | TiMiD | messily :) |
| 00:57:36 | Cassandra | No-one was writing to a design spec, or if they were what it does now is vastly different from what it did then. |
| 00:58:04 | TiMiD | when I write something, I try to make the original code easier to read |
| 00:58:18 | TiMiD | but it's difficult if you don't want to break everything |
| 00:58:29 | TiMiD | everything is very tied |
| 00:58:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, for me the process goes: Step 1: Make it work. Step 2: Make everything as simple to read as possible. Step 3: Try to get the hang of this whole 'comment' thing because i really suck at it. |
| 00:58:45 | Cassandra | *nods* Could do with a few more comments regarding what the code is actually for, really. |
| 00:58:56 | TiMiD | yes |
| 00:59:02 | TiMiD | at least what each fn does |
| 00:59:27 | TiMiD | but the pbl is that lot of function doesn' have a precise aim |
| 00:59:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:59:34 | TiMiD | if you see what I mean |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:07 | TiMiD | I prefer when a fn does only one single tasj but does it well |
| 01:00:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe... //This function does... err... something. |
| 01:00:15 | Cassandra | Right - I can't be arsed to create a virtual file just now. I'll do it the easy way. |
| 01:00:19 | TiMiD | :) |
| 01:00:20 | Cassandra | Someone may fix it later. |
| 01:00:33 | TiMiD | virtual file oO |
| 01:01:44 | TiMiD | on what are you working ? |
| 01:04:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Basically, the idea was that when one went to "Browse .wps" there would be a choice there other than the files in the wps folder called simply "Default" (or something like that) that loaded the default WPS. |
| 01:05:39 | ashridah | i'd actually use the term 'Built in' over 'default', myself |
| 01:06:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Might be better, yeah |
| 01:08:32 | ashridah | just not sure how well the distinction would translate to other languages |
| 01:09:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | True. I still tend to think relative to one language only. |
| 01:10:02 | amiconn | Hah, the inverse bar selector does look really distinct on a colour lcd :) |
| 01:10:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh? |
| 01:10:09 | Cassandra | rockbox_default is consistant with the fonts. |
| 01:11:00 | amiconn | Yes, inverse means complemented colours. The current colour choice is black text on "rockbox-blue" background |
| 01:11:20 | amiconn | The inverse bar ends up with white text on red-brown background |
| 01:11:44 | Cassandra | I wish the logo wasn't that disgusting shade of orange. |
| 01:12:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm. |
| 01:12:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, actual inverse might not be the best idea? |
| 01:12:31 | amiconn | Something is still wrong with mono bitmaps. bounce.rock looks way off |
| 01:12:55 | amiconn | Shouldn't be hard to fix though |
| 01:13:39 | Cassandra | Do I need to run a make install on the sim builds - I forget. |
| 01:13:55 | amiconn | You should |
| 01:14:13 | amiconn | It's basically a 'make zip' followed by auto-unzipping to the archos/ dir |
| 01:14:27 | amiconn | So all your codecs, plugins etc get updated |
| 01:17:28 | * | Cassandra wonders who checked in default.wps. |
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| 01:24:37 | Mordov | how do I get rid of the uppeermost line on iRiver when writng a .wps file,, I want to display the info elsewhere:) |
| 01:24:56 | Cassandra | You set "status bar" off. |
| 01:25:24 | Mordov | :) thanks |
| 01:26:35 | ashridah | there really should be a way to flag that in the wps, since it seems to offset and cutoff images |
| 01:30:03 | pinkutank | did anyone with a noninterrupting jpeg build come in while I was afk |
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| 01:31:10 | amiconn | linuxstb: Hmm, the current lcd_mono_bitmap_part() implementation neglects a lot of things. |
| 01:31:28 | amiconn | It only works right for <10% of all cases |
| 01:31:32 | linuxstb | I know. |
| 01:31:34 | Cassandra | Dammit! What are the keys for the iRiver sim? |
| 01:31:48 | linuxstb | I only just wrote the very minimum to get text display working. |
| 01:32:20 | Cassandra | (on X11) |
| 01:32:24 | amiconn | I am working on it |
| 01:32:33 | amiconn | It's basically a reimplementation |
| 01:32:39 | TiMiD | Paul_The_Nerd: why not simply make the code load a "default.wps" file ? |
| 01:32:51 | TiMiD | and removing the built_in wps |
| 01:33:00 | amiconn | That's bad |
| 01:33:05 | TiMiD | that would be easier |
| 01:33:13 | TiMiD | why is it bad ? |
| 01:33:20 | amiconn | We should never have to rely on specific files |
| 01:33:25 | Cassandra | Means rockbox falls over if you don't have access to the WPS file. |
| 01:33:34 | amiconn | There must be builtin sane values |
| 01:33:40 | Cassandra | Rockbox doesn't require external files to boot. |
| 01:33:58 | TiMiD | well if rockbox can't load a wps file it won't be able to play an audio file either ... |
| 01:34:07 | amiconn | Why? |
| 01:34:17 | amiconn | It would just use the default wps and go on... |
| 01:34:25 | TiMiD | when you have no .rockbox it doesn't work |
| 01:34:43 | amiconn | It does, at least on hwcodec platforms |
| 01:34:46 | TiMiD | I assume that the user that removes system files want to go into troubles |
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| 01:35:01 | amiconn | It just complains several times that there is no playlist control file, but it works |
| 01:35:22 | TiMiD | but what the interest for the user ? |
| 01:35:30 | TiMiD | to remove the .rockbox folder |
| 01:35:45 | amiconn | No, but he might have deleted the file by accident |
| 01:35:58 | TiMiD | then the user have to put it again |
| 01:36:09 | amiconn | On a trip abroad? |
| 01:36:36 | TiMiD | thats a good point |
| 01:37:01 | TiMiD | but if he deletes the firmware file |
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| 01:37:06 | TiMiD | same problem XD |
| 01:37:10 | amiconn | Of course rockbox cannot continue when an essential file is missing (like a .codec on swcodec pfms), but missing non-essential files shouldn't stop it |
| 01:37:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's the argument for hiding the firmware file in the .rockbox folder. |
| 01:37:31 | amiconn | ...as there are fonts, .wps, languages... |
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| 01:38:10 | TiMiD | well what about the wps displays nothing when default wps is deleted ? |
| 01:38:25 | amiconn | You can boot rockbox with just the firmware file itself in place (even without it when booting from flash), and on hwcodec platforms it is even able to play music |
| 01:38:36 | TiMiD | (which shouldn't happen in normal use) |
| 01:39:23 | amiconn | Of course english only, default font, default wps, and complaining about playlist_control and .rockbox folder every now and then |
| 01:40:02 | TiMiD | well |
| 01:40:20 | TiMiD | at least when the default.wps is found it would use it |
| 01:40:40 | TiMiD | and when not just use built-in |
| 01:41:01 | amiconn | That it could do, but then the packager needs to be able to package different default.wps per target |
| 01:41:56 | TiMiD | that's just a problem at the makefile level ;) |
| 01:42:11 | amiconn | perl script in this case |
| 01:42:27 | TiMiD | well perl script :p |
| 01:42:43 | TiMiD | not a big deal at this level I think |
| 01:43:03 | TiMiD | just rename the correct default file to default.wps |
| 01:43:28 | TiMiD | for example a default-iriver.wps > default.wps |
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| 01:48:06 | webguest47 | hallo |
| 01:48:20 | webguest47 | was geht |
| 01:48:55 | webguest47 | ist da jemand |
| 01:50:20 | TiMiD | sonna ji ni daremo ga itte iru :/ |
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| 01:50:55 | TiMiD | boku dake XD |
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| 01:52:44 | markun | webguest47: Englisch bitte :) |
| 01:54:46 | webguest47 | whats uppppp???? |
| 01:55:08 | webguest47 | so what is the status of lcd driver for h3**? |
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| 02:00:31 | markun | not sure, did you see the picture? |
| 02:03:05 | pinkutank | last update was the backlight i think |
| 02:03:50 | pinkutank | did anyone with a noninterrupting jpeg build come in while I was afk |
| 02:05:27 | pinkutank | lol timid can overrule everyonje with his japanese |
| 02:12:26 | TiMiD | no I can't :( |
| 02:13:19 | | Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 02:13:22 | TiMiD | I was speaking with a japanese girl at this evening's party and I definitly can't speak japanese very well :( |
| 02:13:56 | Cassandra | Can someone with a bleeding edge build check to see if they have a weird display artefact in the top left of the screen with the "boxes" WPS, please? |
| 02:14:31 | pinkutank | I tried to decipher what you just wrote, I can pcikup words but no go |
| 02:14:51 | TiMiD | uh ? |
| 02:14:53 | pinkutank | things, everyone/noone , say , I, to |
| 02:15:15 | pinkutank | "sonna ji ni daremo ga itte iru , boku dake XD" |
| 02:15:16 | TiMiD | sonna > this kind of |
| 02:15:23 | TiMiD | ji > hour |
| 02:15:35 | TiMiD | ni > at |
| 02:15:52 | pinkutank | daremo ga |
| 02:15:54 | TiMiD | daremo > nobody |
| 02:15:57 | pinkutank | evberyone or noone |
| 02:15:58 | pinkutank | oh ok |
| 02:16:02 | pinkutank | nobody is |
| 02:16:05 | pinkutank | speaking |
| 02:16:10 | pinkutank | saying something |
| 02:16:22 | pinkutank | what is boku dake |
| 02:16:27 | TiMiD | itte iru > be there |
| 02:16:49 | TiMiD | (more like "is used to be there", but my english is limited) |
| 02:16:57 | TiMiD | boku > I |
| 02:17:01 | TiMiD | dake > only |
| 02:17:06 | pinkutank | oh I udnerstand, carppy dictionary |
| 02:17:18 | pinkutank | I looked up itte iru , it said speak |
| 02:17:22 | pinkutank | oh well heh |
| 02:17:29 | TiMiD | yes dictionnaries are a little difficult to use in japanese |
| 02:17:29 | pinkutank | ok I get it |
| 02:17:39 | TiMiD | since a word can mean a lot of things |
| 02:17:51 | pinkutank | well, I'll be better off when I start taking lessons after december |
| 02:18:06 | pinkutank | yay its 3:20 am again |
| 02:18:19 | pinkutank | gonna go to school in 3 hours |
| 02:18:23 | TiMiD | haha |
| 02:18:33 | TiMiD | 2:20 here |
| 02:18:41 | pinkutank | everyday this shit happens, and I've done zen zen |
| 02:18:51 | TiMiD | I'm just finishing smth on the code I was working on |
| 02:18:55 | TiMiD | and sleeeep :) |
| 02:19:37 | pinkutank | I had to work for my english orals |
| 02:19:39 | pinkutank | oh well |
| 02:19:44 | pinkutank | her egoes anyhter day |
| 02:19:45 | TiMiD | (silly playlist code) |
| 02:19:59 | pinkutank | do you use the jpeg viewer? |
| 02:20:49 | TiMiD | no |
| 02:21:17 | pinkutank | hoped youd have a compiled one patched with the patch applied |
| 02:21:25 | TiMiD | I use my iriver only in the street so remote only |
| 02:21:29 | pinkutank | I should learn compiling asap |
| 02:21:44 | TiMiD | yes it's not very difficult |
| 02:21:48 | TiMiD | compiling |
| 02:21:51 | pinkutank | does it take any time? |
| 02:21:57 | pinkutank | I already patched the jpeg.c |
| 02:21:58 | TiMiD | to lern |
| 02:22:02 | TiMiD | ? |
| 02:22:03 | pinkutank | but |
| 02:22:09 | TiMiD | to compile |
| 02:22:13 | pinkutank | I dont know how to make that into the firmware |
| 02:22:14 | TiMiD | maybe 1 minute |
| 02:22:23 | pinkutank | oh |
| 02:22:24 | TiMiD | you have a patched source ? |
| 02:22:39 | TiMiD | and a build environment ? |
| 02:22:42 | pinkutank | I have a patched source of the jpeg plugin of the daily build |
| 02:22:49 | pinkutank | but I dont have anything else |
| 02:22:59 | pinkutank | and I have the programs installed of course |
| 02:23:02 | TiMiD | just go on the wiki and download the build env |
| 02:23:07 | TiMiD | (it's an installer) |
| 02:23:12 | TiMiD | ok |
| 02:23:15 | pinkutank | the dev kit? |
| 02:23:18 | TiMiD | yes |
| 02:23:21 | pinkutank | I have the dev kit |
| 02:23:38 | pinkutank | I have the tarball |
| 02:23:49 | pinkutank | I have a patched jpeg.c |
| 02:23:51 | TiMiD | then move the sources tou the home/guest dir in the devkit |
| 02:24:18 | pinkutank | the source is common right? I Will choose h120 sometime later? |
| 02:24:24 | TiMiD | yes |
| 02:24:52 | pinkutank | i did move them along |
| 02:25:03 | TiMiD | then lauch the devkit |
| 02:25:14 | pinkutank | Im looking for my jpeg c |
| 02:27:50 | Cassandra | Waiting, waiting, for the build to make. / So many bloody platforms and so very quick to break. |
| 02:28:00 | Cassandra | </Les Mis> |
| 02:28:51 | TiMiD | Les Mis ? |
| 02:28:53 | | Quit dpassen1 () |
| 02:28:53 | pinkutank | what is tmpatname |
| 02:29:09 | Cassandra | Les Miserables. A popular musical from the 80s. |
| 02:29:11 | pinkutank | i couldnt find my .c file, repatching, but the patch .exe is malfunctioning |
| 02:29:12 | TiMiD | pinkutank: I don't know XD |
| 02:29:27 | TiMiD | Cassandra: T francais ? |
| 02:29:29 | Cassandra | I may have taken some liberties with the words. |
| 02:29:50 | Cassandra | It's a French musical, yes. but no I'm not French. |
| 02:29:51 | pinkutank | he asked if you speak french |
| 02:29:57 | pinkutank | oh |
| 02:30:01 | pinkutank | lol |
| 02:30:07 | TiMiD | I asked if he was french |
| 02:30:07 | pinkutank | i thought you were quoting cass |
| 02:30:20 | TiMiD | since I'm french |
| 02:30:22 | Cassandra | Un petit peut. Mais ma francais est tres mal. |
| 02:30:32 | TiMiD | not a lor fo french people heure |
| 02:30:35 | TiMiD | here |
| 02:30:36 | TiMiD | hehe |
| 02:30:42 | pinkutank | I speak a little bit |
| 02:30:47 | TiMiD | I can understand at least :p |
| 02:31:12 | TiMiD | "Un peu, mais mon francais n'est pas bon" |
| 02:31:25 | pinkutank | :) |
| 02:31:27 | TiMiD | or "Un peu mais mon francais est mauvais" |
| 02:31:48 | Cassandra | Ich kann auch ein bischen Deutsch. |
| 02:32:18 | pinkutank | un peu mais mon français are vraiment mal donc je ne vai(i forgot how to use voudrais) pas parles |
| 02:32:25 | TiMiD | nihongo wo hanasu koto ga sukoshi jozu ni dekimasu |
| 02:32:27 | pinkutank | did i say are |
| 02:32:29 | pinkutank | oh lol |
| 02:32:32 | pinkutank | est |
| 02:32:52 | pinkutank | nihongo bansai |
| 02:33:12 | pinkutank | ok |
| 02:33:34 | pinkutank | o'_'o |
| 02:33:40 | TiMiD | (I admint that to learn french must be a nightmare for a forigner) |
| 02:34:12 | TiMiD | becase it's a nightmare for us to write it correctly :p |
| 02:34:18 | pinkutank | its not a nightmare |
| 02:34:29 | pinkutank | but I only get like 40 mins per week of non serious ed. |
| 02:34:51 | TiMiD | compared to korean or japanese, it's a nightmare :) |
| 02:35:26 | Cassandra | Well English is no walk in the park either, I suppose. |
| 02:35:35 | TiMiD | it's easier |
| 02:35:39 | Cassandra | Being an English speaker makes one lazy. |
| 02:35:54 | Cassandra | The entire western world understands English, pretty much. :) |
| 02:35:55 | TiMiD | verbs are simple |
| 02:36:03 | TiMiD | hehe |
| 02:36:13 | TiMiD | it's because we have no choice :( |
| 02:37:54 | Cassandra | Well you should have made a better job of taking over America then. You've only yourselves to blame, really. :) |
| 02:38:16 | TiMiD | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 02:38:47 | TiMiD | I'm happy in france :) |
| 02:38:47 | pinkutank | so how do i compile timid |
| 02:39:07 | Cassandra | I think if you compile timid he might get upset. |
| 02:39:16 | TiMiD | lol |
| 02:39:17 | pinkutank | oh lol |
| 02:40:07 | TiMiD | well just make a "build" folder inside your source tree |
| 02:40:16 | TiMiD | then go t the tools dir |
| 02:40:26 | TiMiD | cd rockbox/tools |
| 02:40:30 | TiMiD | type make |
| 02:40:31 | pinkutank | build folder? where |
| 02:40:42 | TiMiD | in the rockbox/ folder |
| 02:41:04 | pinkutank | ok |
| 02:41:21 | pinkutank | am i operating commandline |
| 02:41:28 | pinkutank | or rockbox .bat |
| 02:41:41 | TiMiD | .bat |
| 02:42:02 | pinkutank | what do i wrtie |
| 02:42:14 | amiconn | linuxstb: There. Shiny lcd-16bit.c :-) |
| 02:42:23 | TiMiD | type cd rockbox/tools |
| 02:42:33 | pinkutank | there inst a tools folder here |
| 02:42:48 | TiMiD | where rockbox is the source tree root folder |
| 02:43:12 | pinkutank | yes there isnt one, but there is one in the daily rarball |
| 02:43:42 | TiMiD | well the name of the folder :) |
| 02:44:02 | pinkutank | C:\Rockbox\home\guest\rockbox-daily-20051114\tools |
| 02:44:08 | TiMiD | notice that when you are in command line you can press the TAB key and it completes the word you are typing |
| 02:44:22 | TiMiD | type cd rockbox-daily-20051114/tools |
| 02:44:29 | TiMiD | or |
| 02:44:31 | pinkutank | and make |
| 02:44:34 | TiMiD | yes |
| 02:44:35 | TiMiD | :) |
| 02:44:37 | pinkutank | im already in the dir |
| 02:44:39 | pinkutank | thats all? |
| 02:44:42 | TiMiD | no |
| 02:44:48 | TiMiD | that's the frst step |
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| 02:44:56 | pinkutank | it gave lots of errors |
| 02:45:02 | pinkutank | saying this and that was udneclared |
| 02:45:07 | Cassandra | Amazing. Nothing broke. |
| 02:45:12 | Cassandra | Right, bed for me. |
| 02:45:28 | TiMiD | oO |
| 02:45:32 | pinkutank | all was ipod errors tho |
| 02:45:42 | TiMiD | I get no errors |
| 02:45:51 | TiMiD | I will try to cvs update |
| 02:46:07 | pinkutank | letme try todays build |
| 02:47:23 | pinkutank | sorry fot taking your itme |
| 02:47:31 | ashridah | hm. regarding the latest cvs commit, wouldn't it be reasonable to provide for the situation where the user replaces the virtual file with a real 'default' wps? |
| 02:47:50 | Cassandra | Yes. Feel free to write a patch. |
| 02:48:21 | Cassandra | The user really shouldn't be replacing files in the default Rockbox build though. They'll get overwritten when they reinstall. |
| 02:48:26 | pinkutank | why do you need one, doesnt it automatically load the latest wps you loaded |
| 02:48:42 | TiMiD | pinkutank: I can't help you with the tools compile errors, it works here |
| 02:49:06 | TiMiD | Cassandra: why not to make a real default file instead of a virtual one ? |
| 02:49:06 | ashridah | Cassandra: but isn't the 'rockbox_default.wps' thing a virtual file? |
| 02:49:07 | pinkutank | im retrying |
| 02:49:25 | ashridah | TiMiD: then it won't work if there's no wps's at all, including the default file. |
| 02:49:40 | Cassandra | ashridah: Because tree.c is bloody confusing and it seemed better to get a fix out there than to worry about niceties like that. |
| 02:49:48 | ashridah | Cassandra: righto then |
| 02:49:53 | TiMiD | why would there be no files ? |
| 02:50:05 | TiMiD | in that case, it loads the default wps |
| 02:50:41 | pinkutank | timid |
| 02:50:47 | pinkutank | normally what should i be getting? |
| 02:50:58 | TiMiD | kevin@harkonnen ~/rockbox-devel/tools $ make |
| 02:50:58 | TiMiD | cc -O -ansi -g -c -o scramble.o scramble.c |
| 02:50:58 | TiMiD | cc -g scramble.o iriver.o -o scramble |
| 02:50:58 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK TiMiD |
| 02:50:58 | TiMiD | cc -DAPPLICATION_NAME=\"bmp2rb\" -g bmp2rb.c -o bmp2rb |
| 02:50:58 | TiMiD | cc -g convbdf.c -o convbdf |
| 02:51:01 | TiMiD | cc -g ipod_fw.c -o ipod_fw |
| 02:51:03 | TiMiD | tools done |
| 02:51:19 | pinkutank | how can i copy my error window to show the results |
| 02:51:38 | TiMiD | right click->select text |
| 02:51:43 | Cassandra | I admit it's a bit of a hack, but it has the advantage of working crossplatform and not confusing the end user unless they try to do something odd. |
| 02:51:48 | pinkutank | cant |
| 02:51:53 | TiMiD | then press enter to copy the selected text |
| 02:52:02 | pinkutank | I cant select text |
| 02:52:04 | Cassandra | There's no real need to change the default WPS since your last WPS selection is remembered anyway. |
| 02:52:05 | pinkutank | it wont letme |
| 02:52:56 | TiMiD | pinkutank: I can't help you a lot since I'm under linux |
| 02:53:15 | TiMiD | but right click gives you a menu |
| 02:53:26 | pinkutank | oh |
| 02:53:31 | TiMiD | and in this menu yoou can tell it to let you select |
| 02:53:58 | pinkutank | not reaally in my window, but i think i found a way of copying it |
| 02:54:55 | Midgey34 | TiMiD: I'm getting errors (well warnings) on linux when building the tools directory |
| 02:54:59 | pinkutank | ~/rockbox-daily-20051115/tools>make |
| 02:54:59 | pinkutank | gcc -g ipod_fw.c -o ipod_fw |
| 02:54:59 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:28:19: errno.h: No such file or directory |
| 02:54:59 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK pinkutank |
| 02:54:59 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:29:20: unistd.h: No such file or directory |
| 02:54:59 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c: In function `copysum': |
| 02:55:00 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 02:55:00 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:140: error: `errno' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:02 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:140: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 02:55:04 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:140: error: for each function it appears in.) |
| 02:55:06 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c: In function `load_entry': |
| 02:55:08 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:166: error: `errno' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:10 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c: In function `write_entry': |
| 02:55:12 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:185: error: `errno' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:14 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c: In function `extract': |
| 02:55:16 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:218: error: `errno' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:18 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c: In function `lengthof': |
| 02:55:20 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:240: error: `errno' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:22 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c: In function `main': |
| 02:55:24 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:289: error: `opterr' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:26 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:312: error: `optarg' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:28 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 02:55:28 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:372: error: `errno' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 02:55:30 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:422: error: `optopt' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 02:55:32 | pinkutank | ipod_fw.c:431: error: `optind' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:55:34 | pinkutank | make: *** [ipod_fw] Error 1 |
| 02:55:36 | pinkutank | ~/rockbox-daily-20051115/tools> |
| 02:55:38 | pinkutank | the ones before ipod are all gcc |
| 02:56:25 | amiconn | You're using the devkit I presume? |
| 02:57:37 | TiMiD | I thought this issue was fixed |
| 02:58:07 | amiconn | Well, bluechip fixed it internally, but a new devkit isn't out yet |
| 02:58:15 | TiMiD | okk |
| 02:58:31 | TiMiD | well since it works here I don't care :p |
| 02:58:38 | amiconn | Afaik someone promised him an arm-elf-gcc for inclusion |
| 02:59:08 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 02:59:15 | TiMiD | I have a question about Ipod |
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| 02:59:33 | amiconn | pinkutank: You can safely ignore these errors in tools/ as long as you don't want to build the ipod targets (which won't work anyway atm because of the missing arm crosscompiler) |
| 02:59:37 | TiMiD | could eventually ipod nano play ogg files ? |
| 02:59:46 | pinkutank | i dont care about ipod |
| 02:59:51 | pinkutank | but what do i do know |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:00 | TiMiD | I mean is it software codecs or hw codecs ? |
| 03:00:13 | amiconn | swcodec |
| 03:00:18 | pinkutank | i created a makefile |
| 03:00:26 | pinkutank | using configure |
| 03:00:42 | TiMiD | ok so it could play ogg |
| 03:00:47 | amiconn | yeps |
| 03:01:04 | pinkutank | what do i do now? |
| 03:01:05 | amiconn | It will take some time, rockbox is in its early stages on ipod |
| 03:01:28 | TiMiD | yes, but I know a friend that wanted a flash based player that plays ogg |
| 03:01:38 | TiMiD | and there is no choices |
| 03:01:48 | TiMiD | ipod nano is the cheapest |
| 03:02:11 | TiMiD | and compared to the iriver T series, it's UMS |
| 03:02:17 | pinkutank | timid how can i use my makefile |
| 03:02:25 | TiMiD | pinkutank: just type make |
| 03:02:34 | pinkutank | where should i store my makefile |
| 03:02:39 | pinkutank | i made it in another dir |
| 03:02:39 | TiMiD | I hope you created it in the build directory |
| 03:02:45 | pinkutank | build-dir |
| 03:02:46 | Cassandra | I suspect a video iPod will be my next Rockbox device. |
| 03:02:46 | TiMiD | great then |
| 03:03:00 | TiMiD | type make in that dir and it woll be good :p |
| 03:03:02 | Cassandra | But to be honest, the H140 does everything I could want. |
| 03:03:22 | TiMiD | yes I love my h140 with rb XD |
| 03:03:30 | TiMiD | but if you want a flash player |
| 03:03:32 | TiMiD | ... |
| 03:04:09 | Cassandra | iPod nano is probably your best bet. But probably not for 6 months or so. |
| 03:04:22 | pinkutank | it isnt working again :( crap |
| 03:04:49 | TiMiD | if I was kind I would compile it for you |
| 03:04:50 | pinkutank | home guest firmware no such file ... |
| 03:05:07 | TiMiD | what patch is it ? |
| 03:05:21 | pinkutank | jpeg, bu tnevermin, I'm not gonna use it tomottow |
| 03:05:26 | pinkutank | I took enough of your time |
| 03:05:29 | pinkutank | gonna sleep now |
| 03:05:33 | TiMiD | me2 :) |
| 03:05:34 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 03:05:39 | pinkutank | and will learn by trial error tomorrow |
| 03:05:46 | TiMiD | hehe |
| 03:05:56 | pinkutank | i can udnerstand whats wrong |
| 03:06:14 | pinkutank | In the config i put in the firmware directory wrong |
| 03:06:22 | TiMiD | amiconn: I'm going to commit the playlist-viewer patch, a big patch ... |
| 03:06:27 | pinkutank | i just need to edit the makefile a tad bit and ll will be good |
| 03:06:43 | TiMiD | pinkutank: you don't need to put it in the make file oO |
| 03:06:54 | TiMiD | the configure script detects it for you |
| 03:06:57 | pinkutank | i know |
| 03:07:01 | pinkutank | but it detected it as |
| 03:07:21 | pinkutank | "/firmware :D" |
| 03:07:36 | TiMiD | ow |
| 03:07:45 | TiMiD | something is going wrong then :) |
| 03:07:59 | TiMiD | you will maybe have other problems :( |
| 03:08:45 | pinkutank | well I'll see tomorrow |
| 03:08:50 | pinkutank | if I dont die in school |
| 03:08:56 | pinkutank | 2:30 till school |
| 03:09:01 | pinkutank | and I'm having ib orals |
| 03:09:23 | pinkutank | I'm really and asshole towards myself, complete idiot, baka baka baka |
| 03:09:28 | pinkutank | gnight |
| 03:09:37 | TiMiD | ahou :) |
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| 04:06:23 | Mordov | is there a display simulator for WSP fils? so I dont have to load it unto the iRiver al the time? |
| 04:08:52 | lostlogic | <3 H300 support is moving! |
| 04:20:36 | Mordov | # Each line has the format "setting: value". Values must be within the ranges specified in this manual for each setting. |
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| 04:20:44 | Mordov | can someone tell me where to find this? |
| 04:21:13 | Mordov | is there a CFG index |
| 04:23:27 | ashridah | Mordov: there's a simulator for rockbox. it should support displaying WPS's |
| 04:23:35 | ashridah | it's part of the same source, there might be daily builds of it |
| 04:24:11 | ashridah | hm. guess not |
| 04:28:23 | Mordov | do you have a link? |
| 04:32:43 | Mordov | ah don't bother.. I have to put this down a get some sleep :) |
| 04:35:04 | ashridah | there's no daily builds of the simulators, it seems. but if you grab the devkit (for windows) or build a cross compiler (unixalikes) you could build your own, or ask someone to package theirs up and put it up for you to download. |
| 04:36:39 | Mordov | :) |
| 04:39:31 | Mordov | I have put your last sentec in a text file on my desktop ready to understand tomorrow :) |
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| 09:50:15 | Jungti1234 | At where can uisimulator download? |
| 09:50:35 | B4gder | there are no binary downloads of the sim |
| 09:50:41 | B4gder | build your own |
| 09:51:10 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 09:51:24 | B4gder | the sim is only useful for development |
| 09:51:48 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/uisimulator/win32/Attic/?hideattic=1&sortby=file |
| 09:51:50 | Jungti1234 | What is this? |
| 09:52:03 | markun | B4gder: I found out that the CPU of the Gigabeat is SAMSUNG S3C2440AL-30. Found a PDF of the S3C2440A, but I don't know what the difference is. |
| 09:52:24 | Jungti1234 | markun: hi |
| 09:52:29 | markun | Jungti1234: morning |
| 09:52:32 | B4gder | ARM9 I noticed |
| 09:52:39 | * | B4gder works with an ARM9 at work |
| 09:53:05 | ashridah | Jungti1234: that's a view of the Attic for the win32 directory of the simulator. It's old files that've been removed from the current cvs tree. |
| 09:53:13 | markun | I was reading the datasheet and must say I like it a lot. Also a mac instruction like the coldfire. |
| 09:53:27 | B4gder | nice |
| 09:54:00 | markun | Did you even work with thumb instructions? |
| 09:54:08 | B4gder | I did |
| 09:54:32 | B4gder | there's a gcc option for them |
| 09:54:37 | markun | I guess it's usefull to save space |
| 09:54:53 | B4gder | its especially useful for 16bit memories |
| 09:55:24 | markun | The samsung has integrate RTC, flash memory and an LCD controller. |
| 09:55:43 | B4gder | no usb? |
| 09:55:49 | markun | Yes, also |
| 09:55:57 | B4gder | goodie |
| 09:56:38 | markun | It can opperate at 400MHz, but the gigabeat runs at 300, should be more than enough |
| 09:58:45 | B4gder | hehe, indeed |
| 09:59:55 | B4gder | "Samsung's S3C2410X processor was used recently in Unication's Linux-powered Magpie PDA" |
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| 10:00:18 | B4gder | there might be code for some of its magic |
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| 10:01:43 | markun | Well, the Gigabeat is also Linux based, no free magic there I'm affraid :) |
| 10:02:14 | B4gder | possibly their LCD/flash/USB stuff is similar to other ARM9-based microcontrollers |
| 10:03:46 | markun | It's all in the datasheet (maybe it's not the datasheet, it says "user's manual") |
| 10:04:19 | B4gder | I was just thinking that existing code for it would be even better |
| 10:04:56 | markun | yes, maybe |
| 10:07:03 | markun | Do you know what kind of ARM the ipod uses? |
| 10:07:11 | B4gder | arm7 |
| 10:07:32 | B4gder | but with dual cores |
| 10:08:19 | markun | I hope 2 75MHz ARM7 CPUs are slower than 1 300MHz ARM9 |
| 10:08:34 | B4gder | no doubts there |
| 10:11:58 | B4gder | btw, my ARM9 has 16K iram |
| 10:14:46 | markun | I only see 16K i-cache and 16K d-cache, but no mention of iram |
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| 10:15:46 | B4gder | called isram here |
| 10:17:37 | markun | Could you take a look at the S3C2440A manual? |
| 10:19:21 | B4gder | yes, soon |
| 10:19:47 | B4gder | quite busy trying to get our arm9 to run ;-) |
| 10:20:12 | B4gder | we're just in the transition of going from a dev board to our own board |
| 10:20:21 | B4gder | and things just don't work |
| 10:20:35 | markun | ok, good luck then |
| 10:21:13 | B4gder | gcc -march=armv5 is your friend |
| 10:21:17 | B4gder | :-) |
| 10:21:49 | B4gder | and objdump -d |
| 10:23:06 | markun | ok :) |
| 10:23:42 | B4gder | linuxstb_: you checked if your ipod port 16bit writes are done as strh or two strb ? |
| 10:24:12 | B4gder | gcc for arm defaults to two strbs |
| 10:27:23 | linuxstb_ | B4gder: No. Why would gcc do such a thing? Alignment issues? |
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| 10:33:46 | B4gder | I think so |
| 10:34:04 | B4gder | or possibly some compatibility issue with old arm archs |
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| 10:35:50 | LinusN | wee, got the h300 ata driver working |
| 10:36:02 | B4gder | rrrrrrrocking |
| 10:36:14 | linuxstb_ | Were there many changes to the H1x0? |
| 10:36:20 | LinusN | except that as soon as i power the hd, the bdm connection is lost :-( |
| 10:36:37 | B4gder | ugha |
| 10:36:56 | LinusN | very minor changes needed |
| 10:37:11 | linuxstb_ | B4gder: Which version of gcc for arm do you use? |
| 10:37:22 | LinusN | they seem to have learned their lesson and now make use of the IORDY signal |
| 10:37:30 | B4gder | 3.4.4 |
| 10:37:47 | LinusN | but rockbox doesn't use it, and it works fine without it |
| 10:38:04 | LinusN | i actually got as far as displaying the dir browser |
| 10:38:22 | LinusN | but i have problems with the button driver |
| 10:38:59 | LinusN | the pcf50606 chip handles buttons, adc and rtc |
| 10:39:08 | LinusN | using i2c |
| 10:39:23 | LinusN | which means that we have concurrency problems |
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| 10:40:34 | LinusN | the rtc is polled in a thread, while the buttons and adc are read in interrupts |
| 10:41:37 | B4gder | markun: it is only usb 1.1 it seems |
| 10:42:00 | B4gder | the microcontroller |
| 10:44:52 | B4gder | "Boot Internal SRAM (4KB)" |
| 10:45:01 | LinusN | the h300 has 3 keys connected to GPIO pins: ON, Rec and A/B |
| 10:45:14 | LinusN | (and Hold of course) |
| 10:46:13 | markun | I'm pretty sure the the usb slave part is 2.0, but I can't find it now |
| 10:46:27 | B4gder | it might be an external chip |
| 10:46:49 | LinusN | B4gder: but it has both data and instruction cache |
| 10:46:54 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:47:23 | B4gder | "4-KB internal SRAM buffer can be used for another purpose after NAND flash booting." |
| 10:47:25 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 10:47:47 | LinusN | lcd dma |
| 10:48:46 | markun | not a lot or iram.. |
| 10:49:04 | B4gder | on this beast iram won't be that critical |
| 10:49:08 | LinusN | markun: no, but it has a data cache |
| 10:49:56 | markun | LinusN: what do you think about the gigabeat players as new rockbox platform? |
| 10:50:41 | B4gder | actually, it strikes me as pretty similar to what the Neuros N3 wants to become |
| 10:50:58 | B4gder | but without the annoying TI part |
| 10:51:00 | LinusN | markun: looks promising |
| 10:52:03 | LinusN | rtc... |
| 10:52:13 | markun | yes, also :) |
| 10:52:29 | B4gder | its a super-cool platform |
| 10:52:33 | B4gder | and a way cool lcd |
| 10:53:01 | linuxstb_ | markun: Does the original gigabeat firmware play video? |
| 10:53:09 | markun | linuxstb_: no |
| 10:53:09 | LinusN | 64-way set-associative cache!!!!! |
| 10:53:16 | B4gder | 64! |
| 10:53:34 | linuxstb_ | markun: That's good news - I'm guessing you read about the new ipod video and its video co-processor. |
| 10:53:45 | LinusN | 4-way, 16-word write buffer |
| 10:53:52 | markun | I did. But why is it good news? |
| 10:53:54 | B4gder | ok |
| 10:53:55 | LinusN | man, we don't need iram :-) |
| 10:54:13 | linuxstb_ | Because it means it is unlikely to have a proprietory video DSP sitting between the CPU and the LCD. |
| 10:55:22 | markun | I posted another message on the gigabeat forum asking for more information of the components |
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| 11:01:20 | markun | Does the arm7 also have the MLAL instruction? |
| 11:03:14 | Zagor | i'm not too fond of the lack of buttons though |
| 11:03:52 | markun | It has 5 buttons on the right side and the scroll cross, also a hold switch on the top |
| 11:06:00 | markun | Zagor: http://www.dapreview.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=111&pos=9 |
| 11:07:13 | linuxstb_ | markun: I think so, and I certainly home so. |
| 11:07:18 | linuxstb_ | s/home/hope/ |
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| 11:10:38 | Zagor | markun: yes but the touchy-feely navigation sliders scare me |
| 11:11:24 | LinusN | are they sliders? |
| 11:11:57 | Zagor | touch pads |
| 11:12:02 | LinusN | yuck |
| 11:12:59 | Zagor | the worst part of ipod becomes fashion... |
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| 11:16:28 | linuxstb_ | It should be possible to misuse the scroll-wheel on the ipod to allow the user to just touch the pad in different positions (i.e. not move their finger) to simulate normal buttons. So for each of the 4 button positions, we could have "touch", "long touch", "press", "long press". |
| 11:17:15 | linuxstb_ | But maybe some people like the scrollwheel. |
| 11:17:59 | Zagor | you're probably right. i still prefer clicky buttons though. |
| 11:19:41 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: the new playlist-viewer has some bugs. |
| 11:19:56 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: 1. no handling of remote-buttons |
| 11:20:20 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: 2. only one icon is shown |
| 11:20:35 | Jungti1234 | hey markun |
| 11:20:58 | wubbla | wow, even the ata driver is working now... congratulations to LinusN!!! :-D |
| 11:21:44 | wubbla | what needs to be done before LinusN can start working on the bootloader? |
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| 11:25:17 | B4gder | he works on it already |
| 11:25:31 | B4gder | it needs ata, buttons and lcd |
| 11:26:51 | linuxstb_ | Will the patching of the iriver H3x0 firmware be done in the same way as the H1x0? Or will that be more work as well? |
| 11:28:19 | ripnetuk | firefly / timid - does that commit this morning include the firefly gui widget (remote wps) patch, or is that still not committed? |
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| 11:30:11 | markun | Jungti1234 sent me this link: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.goo.ne.jp%2Fmorihata%2Fe%2F197023c31527c9adb2fd25fdf98c9124&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=ko&newwindow=1&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools |
| 11:30:23 | markun | looks like there are a lot of different LCD's to dupport :( |
| 11:30:27 | markun | support |
| 11:34:25 | linuxstb_ | markun: That doesn't look like fun. |
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| 11:38:25 | markun | someone is about to open his Gigabeat to take pictures of the internals |
| 11:41:47 | markun | linuxstb: tapping the scroll pad also works on the H10. I think it's not so bad. |
| 11:44:11 | linuxstb | It will be different to how the ipod currently behaves - but maybe that's not a bad thing. I would at least like to experiment with different ways of using the scrollwheel. |
| 11:44:45 | linuxstb | I don't like having to move my finger around the wheel when a simple "long touch" would do the same thing. |
| 11:48:22 | amiconn | Regarding the gigabeat - a 400 MHz CPU for a DAP sounds like a big waste to me |
| 11:48:50 | B4gder | 400 is probably a maximum |
| 11:48:53 | B4gder | that they don't use |
| 11:51:31 | amiconn | LinusN: What's the concurrency problem you mentioned? Afaiu we must not do i2c within an isr anyway? |
| 11:52:21 | LinusN | well, that depends on if the pcf50606 clockstretches or not |
| 11:52:37 | LinusN | if it doesn't, we can do i2c as much as we want |
| 11:52:46 | amiconn | Hmm? |
| 11:53:13 | amiconn | i2c in isr means that the isr may break into a running i2c transfer from normal code |
| 11:53:16 | LinusN | as long as we don't interrupt an ongoing i2c operation |
| 11:53:25 | amiconn | ...which will certainly mess up transfers |
| 11:53:32 | LinusN | that's the concurrency problem |
| 11:54:14 | LinusN | we need to synchronize the pcf50606 accesses |
| 11:54:20 | amiconn | ...and iirc the pcf50606 i2c is shared with another component, so it seems i2c in isr is a no-no |
| 11:54:38 | _FireFly_ | ripnetuk no it is only the playlist-viewer |
| 11:55:00 | LinusN | amiconn: it's shared with the eeprom, which we will not use |
| 11:55:11 | _FireFly_ | it seams that currently no of the devs has the time to look at my wps-patch |
| 11:55:48 | amiconn | LinusN: So it could work okay from isr, provided that it's accessed from one isr exclusively |
| 11:56:16 | amiconn | ...but in fact I would not like to block the ability to use the eeprom |
| 11:56:35 | amiconn | It would be perfect for the binary part of the settings |
| 11:56:46 | LinusN | 128 bytes |
| 11:56:51 | amiconn | yes |
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| 11:57:02 | ashridah | has anyone tried using mingw to build rockbox? |
| 11:57:02 | LinusN | the original firmware stores the settings in there |
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| 11:57:09 | amiconn | The archos rtc has ~40 bytes, and we do use it |
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| 11:57:38 | * | ashridah imagines it's not that much different from cygwin, at least when building the firmware. simulators are probably a different matter) |
| 11:57:57 | LinusN | ashridah: mingw uses the DOS shell |
| 11:58:11 | ashridah | not if you couple it with msys |
| 11:58:27 | LinusN | true, but why mingw then? |
| 11:58:46 | LinusN | faster? |
| 11:59:16 | LinusN | i haven't tried to build the cross compiler with mingw |
| 11:59:24 | ashridah | well, obviously, for the firmware, it makes no difference, but it doesn't rely on a posix compatability library, you can build win32 applications with it. of course, that means it's not posix |
| 11:59:37 | ashridah | so i assume the simulators probably require the posix library cygwin provides. |
| 11:59:45 | LinusN | yes they do |
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| 12:01:16 | ashridah | gah |
| 12:01:18 | ashridah | after all that, and i still had the same ip address |
| 12:01:20 | ashridah | didn't need to /reconnect :) |
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| 12:10:10 | linuxstb | ashridah: There is also "msys" - which provides the normal build tools. Rockbox should compile with that. |
| 12:12:02 | ashridah | i know that msys exists, if you'll look carefully, i've already mentioned it once :) |
| 12:12:25 | ashridah | but i was under the impression that's a toolchain, not a posix layer for windows :) |
| 12:15:41 | linuxstb | Sorry, I didn't read the discussion properly. You're right of course. |
| 12:16:37 | linuxstb | If it helps, I can cross-compile the windows sim under linux using i586-mingw32msvc-gcc |
| 12:16:52 | linuxstb | This is probably the same as using mingw under msys |
| 12:18:07 | ashridah | linuxstb: i don't really care that much, i was mostly curious |
| 12:18:14 | * | ashridah does all of his development on linux |
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| 12:24:26 | preglow | markun: yes, the 64 bit math instructions is an arm5e feature |
| 12:24:29 | preglow | markun: so we've got it |
| 12:25:11 | preglow | i also need to use i2c in an interrupt, it seems |
| 12:35:13 | amiconn | urgs |
| 12:42:43 | amiconn | B4gder: (1) Do you have an idea how to add colour support to the x11 sim? (2, related) How about adding a H300 win32 sim to the build table? Unlike the x11 sim, it won't go red, only yellow like the H300 target :-P |
| 12:51:40 | preglow | i'd advice you not to touch x11 if you're interested in retaining your sanity |
| 12:55:25 | amiconn | I'll probably work on removing the 1 yellow for H300 target and win32 sim tonight |
| 12:55:33 | amiconn | It's caused by rockboy |
| 12:58:39 | preglow | wasn't someone planning to optimise rockboy? |
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| 12:59:48 | ashridah | yeah, someone was working on dynamic recompilation. |
| 12:59:53 | ashridah | but he gave up/got bored |
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| 13:02:30 | preglow | i don't think there's much to gain by that |
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| 13:02:44 | preglow | i'd like to see an assembled optimised core and use of iram, though |
| 13:02:48 | preglow | assembleR |
| 13:03:35 | preglow | oh, so there already is some use ofiram |
| 13:04:06 | ashridah | preglow: the idea is to swap common bits of code with optimised versions |
| 13:04:24 | ashridah | so that they don't need to be interpreted |
| 13:04:34 | preglow | i know that |
| 13:04:37 | preglow | but remember our code cache |
| 13:04:41 | preglow | it needs to be constantly flushed |
| 13:04:53 | preglow | when you write new code |
| 13:05:03 | preglow | besides |
| 13:05:08 | preglow | these cores can be hard to write |
| 13:05:16 | preglow | an assembler optimised interpretive core is far easier |
| 13:05:25 | preglow | and should be enough for at least h1x0 |
| 13:06:13 | ashridah | write new code? it was mostly just a case of having it jump to prewritten routines iirc |
| 13:07:19 | preglow | plus, not even half of the iram is currently used |
| 13:07:27 | preglow | ashridah: nah, that's not the case at all |
| 13:07:42 | preglow | ashridah: you translate instruction for instruction to native code |
| 13:08:11 | ashridah | he was working on replacing common routines, i don't know about the rest of it |
| 13:08:42 | preglow | common routines? |
| 13:08:51 | preglow | you mean in the game code? |
| 13:08:55 | ashridah | yes |
| 13:09:04 | preglow | how can you tell if there are any common routines there? each game might be wildly different |
| 13:09:17 | linuxstb | What's the status of sound in Rockboy? IIRC, it works but is currently disabled. |
| 13:09:25 | ashridah | apparently lots of them use a common library provded by nintendo |
| 13:09:31 | preglow | linuxstb: yes, doesn't go too well with the playback code |
| 13:09:46 | preglow | ashridah: but ok, that's indeed a more high level approach than dynamic recompilation alone |
| 13:09:48 | B4gder | amiconn: I have no idea how to fix the x11 sim, no, but then I don't even know how we do it on target |
| 13:10:04 | B4gder | and I'll add a sim build soon |
| 13:10:21 | B4gder | busy now |
| 13:10:50 | preglow | ashridah: still, i'm very certain an assembler core will do more than enough for us |
| 13:11:07 | preglow | and it'll work for all games, not just those using a library from nintendo |
| 13:12:07 | Zagor | yay. Name: Nick Smith Comment: Gigabeat owner - I work for Toshiba |
| 13:12:51 | amiconn | B4gder: The target code is in lcd-16bit.c, and the sim code needs to translate the 16bit packed rgb to whatever is a suitable truecolour format for the os. |
| 13:13:26 | amiconn | It was rather simple to add support for this to the win32 sim since it uses a DIB for display, which is essentially a BMP in memory |
| 13:14:02 | amiconn | I have no idea how this could work with the delta-scheme and individual pixel drawing in the x11 sim... |
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| 13:16:36 | amiconn | preglow: I agree that an asm core for rockboy would be a good thing. Less complexity than dynarec. |
| 13:16:50 | _FireFly_ | amiconn how is the 16bit packed rgb defined ?? |
| 13:17:20 | amiconn | But it isn't as straightforward as it seems - the gameboy cpu is a simplified Z80, but it does a lot of bankswitching |
| 13:17:41 | amiconn | _FireFly_: RGB565 |
| 13:17:42 | _FireFly_ | maybe i can help to add support for this for the x11-sim |
| 13:18:10 | _FireFly_ | ah yes "normal" 16bit format of rgb |
| 13:18:10 | preglow | amiconn: nothing new there, all game systems of that era did a lot of bank switching |
| 13:18:37 | amiconn | Yes, but did you already have a look at the gnuboy code? |
| 13:18:45 | preglow | 'fraid not... |
| 13:20:34 | _FireFly_ | amiconn i have a simple makro which converts 24bit rgb to 16bit rgb on x11 but currently not the other way |
| 13:21:21 | amiconn | The conversion is trivial; the win32 sim does it too |
| 13:22:07 | amiconn | The problem is that the x11 sim doesn't use a bitmap for display, and I didn't find out whether x11 can do that |
| 13:22:35 | amiconn | The current solution uses two buffer, compares the changes, and draws each pixel individually if it changed |
| 13:22:59 | amiconn | Probably slow as hell for truecolour |
| 13:23:21 | amiconn | Besides, I have no idea how to make a window use truecolour |
| 13:23:36 | amiconn | ...and then there is the remote lcd simulation, which stays palette based |
| 13:23:46 | amiconn | Currently both displays share one window |
| 13:23:58 | _FireFly_ | amiconn if i get the image data in 24bit rgb then i can generate a ximage or pixmap which can be easily and fast drawn to the window |
| 13:24:25 | _FireFly_ | i have written a c++-class which handles this under linux |
| 13:25:37 | LinusN | _FireFly_: it would be great if you fixed the x11 sim |
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| 13:27:11 | amiconn | But please w/o C++ |
| 13:27:16 | _FireFly_ | np |
| 13:27:51 | _FireFly_ | the class covert only the c functions to do this :) |
| 13:28:06 | _FireFly_ | this class represents one loaded image |
| 13:28:55 | _FireFly_ | which member function to draw it on a specified window or generate a 1bit shape mask for transparents |
| 13:30:22 | _FireFly_ | amiconn under x11 a window or pixmap are boths drawables |
| 13:30:30 | _FireFly_ | so you can direktly draw to the window |
| 13:33:25 | amiconn | The x11 programming model looks quite cumbersome to me (not only the gfx part). Perhaps that's due to it's networking capabilites. |
| 13:33:42 | _FireFly_ | the differenst between ximage and pixmap is the place where the data is stored because the x11-system is a server-client system. |
| 13:33:43 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
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| 13:34:18 | _FireFly_ | but you can't compare directly the x11 api with the winapi |
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| 13:34:42 | _FireFly_ | because teh x11 api have no widgets as the winapi has |
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| 13:57:34 | TiMiD | _FireFly_: there is only one icon in playlist viewer |
| 13:57:53 | TiMiD | on the left side of the file currently playing |
| 13:59:09 | TiMiD | about remote buttons, I just forgot them hehe (but browsing the playlist should work at least |
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| 14:04:40 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD browsing works but you can't left the viewer with the remote :) |
| 14:05:27 | _FireFly_ | and i just found out that i can't get into the onplay menu with the remote in my wps-widget :) |
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| 14:05:52 | TiMiD | :) |
| 14:06:11 | TiMiD | this is not a 'critical bug' :P |
| 14:06:43 | _FireFly_ | yepp but it would be nice if it gets into cvs my widget :) |
| 14:07:46 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 14:07:59 | TiMiD | I didn't find a lot of time to read it completely |
| 14:08:28 | TiMiD | and the code is not very clear (since most of the patch is in fact old code :/) |
| 14:09:25 | TiMiD | but basically, as far as I read, there is one thing that in my opinion could be better |
| 14:09:57 | TiMiD | make the fn work for only one screen |
| 14:10:07 | _FireFly_ | i have currently no idea how to improve the code |
| 14:10:10 | TiMiD | and then call them twice |
| 14:11:08 | _FireFly_ | in the current version of update and format_display this isn't possible becuase their return value is checked iirc |
| 14:11:33 | _FireFly_ | hmm maybe i find a way to do it |
| 14:12:17 | TiMiD | format_display is void |
| 14:12:29 | TiMiD | and doesn't do any drawing |
| 14:13:28 | _FireFly_ | hmm then i have the wrong function in mind but it's a function which is called in update afaik |
| 14:13:43 | _FireFly_ | i have currently no access to my code |
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| 14:15:06 | TiMiD | well since I don't know the original wps code I'm maybe not the most competent here |
| 14:15:19 | TiMiD | just another thing I just saw |
| 14:15:21 | TiMiD | display->getstringsize(" ", &space_width, &string_height); |
| 14:15:51 | TiMiD | you can get space_width with display->char_width |
| 14:16:14 | _FireFly_ | this is only true when you have a fixed with font using |
| 14:16:47 | TiMiD | which font sn't fixed ? |
| 14:16:52 | TiMiD | (I never saw one) |
| 14:18:10 | _FireFly_ | hmm thats true currently but with unicode support there could some fonts be variable-widthed e.g. asian fonts |
| 14:18:26 | _FireFly_ | or i'm totaly wrong ?? |
| 14:18:27 | B4gder | use_prop |
| 14:18:32 | B4gder | uwe even |
| 14:18:44 | _FireFly_ | B4gder ?? |
| 14:19:01 | TiMiD | chinese and japanese fonts are fixed on my system |
| 14:19:47 | TiMiD | I don't know about korean or arabic ones |
| 14:20:13 | LinusN | we have plenty of proportional fonts |
| 14:22:02 | TiMiD | ok |
| 14:22:12 | TiMiD | at least it's handled in font.c |
| 14:22:23 | B4gder | uwe_prop for example |
| 14:22:54 | preglow | i wonder if we should try doing some anti-aliased fonts for colour screens |
| 14:22:56 | LinusN | display->char_width is the maximum char width |
| 14:23:02 | preglow | they look pretty nice |
| 14:23:05 | TiMiD | yes |
| 14:23:26 | LinusN | and i doubt that getstringsize(" " ...) wants that |
| 14:24:10 | TiMiD | depends on what you want to do |
| 14:24:51 | LinusN | in this case the coder wanted the width of the space character, no? |
| 14:28:28 | TiMiD | I can't say, it's not my code ^^ |
| 14:28:49 | TiMiD | well if it works like this it's ok |
| 14:28:51 | amiconn | TiMiD: Some remarks regarding the playlist viewer from my side: (1) The size gain is less than you promised ;-| (2) I see that you changed the 'queued' and 'move' icons into real icons, so they don't need to resemble letters anymore. My idea for 'move' would be a double-arrow (up-down) |
| 14:29:33 | TiMiD | about the icons, I just choosed quickly since I'm not very good when it comes to design |
| 14:29:52 | TiMiD | about the code size did you compared the two versions ? |
| 14:29:57 | amiconn | yup |
| 14:29:59 | TiMiD | I recompile it just to see |
| 14:30:28 | amiconn | I did a full rebuild from before your commits, noted the sizes, cvsupped, then rebuilt again |
| 14:30:36 | TiMiD | the most critical is the Recorder isn't it ? |
| 14:30:42 | amiconn | yes |
| 14:30:49 | amiconn | The gain on recorder is 1644 bytes |
| 14:31:12 | TiMiD | well it orth it ;) |
| 14:31:17 | TiMiD | *worth |
| 14:31:20 | amiconn | yes of course |
| 14:31:30 | TiMiD | it depends of the target |
| 14:31:34 | amiconn | I'm looking forward to further gains :) |
| 14:31:40 | TiMiD | it's "roughtly 2kb" |
| 14:32:35 | TiMiD | next thing I will do : remove splash calls since they are exacltky the same as gui_syncsplash regarding the parameters |
| 14:33:35 | TiMiD | no |
| 14:33:43 | TiMiD | next thing I will od : eat first ;) |
| 14:34:57 | linuxstb | TiMiD: Have you thought about the plugins? What happens now when you run a plugin? |
| 14:37:25 | amiconn | The plugins should handle multi-display themselves, as they see fit |
| 14:37:58 | amiconn | The only thing needed in the core is clearing both lcds before and after running a plugin, instead of just main |
| 14:38:30 | LinusN | it would be *so* cool to be able to control the music via the remote when running a plugin |
| 14:38:40 | chopped_pork | word |
| 14:38:53 | LinusN | and should be pretty simple with the default_handler() |
| 14:38:53 | chopped_pork | (exactly what i was thinking) |
| 14:38:59 | _FireFly_ | LinusN then we need separate gui threads |
| 14:39:13 | LinusN | no, i don't mean the wps |
| 14:39:19 | LinusN | just the buttons |
| 14:39:22 | amiconn | LinusN: Urgh, that would be awkward to implement |
| 14:39:26 | linuxstb | I still want to find the time to look at the plugin-menu system I proposed a while back. |
| 14:40:03 | _FireFly_ | LinusN ups missunderstanding :) |
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| 14:53:36 | elinenbe | preglow: anit aliased fonts sound GREAT! :) |
| 14:54:27 | elinenbe | I have a question for anyone who can answer... how are the versions of of rockbox showing the asian fonts? Are they using the unicode patch? |
| 14:54:57 | markun | elinenbe: The chinese patch doesn't apply cleanly right now, the unicode does. |
| 14:55:07 | markun | You could use either of them |
| 14:58:30 | markun | Some pictures of a naked Gigabeat X30: http://www.mygigabeat.com/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=94E464CA-3048-2906-EA03C8BFD203A5A2 |
| 14:59:42 | preglow | damn, 400mhz arm |
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| 14:59:47 | preglow | you can do some REALLY funky stuff with that |
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| 15:00:22 | preglow | does it have line in? |
| 15:00:34 | preglow | if so, i think i've found the perfect portable effects unit hardware |
| 15:00:35 | markun | preglow: There are also a 533MHz and a 300MHz version, maybe this is the 300MHz one.. |
| 15:01:08 | markun | No, but you can connect a line-in to the dock connector. |
| 15:01:34 | preglow | boo |
| 15:02:22 | markun | Do you recognize any of the chips? http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1092/wm22uq.jpg |
| 15:03:26 | preglow | there's an usb bridge there, seems |
| 15:04:25 | linuxstb | Yes, the Cypress cy7c68300b |
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| 15:18:06 | markun | The WM875X.S is a Wolfson DAC |
| 15:20:46 | linuxstb | Yes, but is that the correct part number? The ipod has Wolfson dacs with numbers like wm8721, wm8971 and wm8975. The latest ipod uses the wm8758 |
| 15:21:30 | markun | I couldn't find this exact partnumber on the wolfson site |
| 15:22:01 | TiMiD | oh about playlist viewer, I have a small question |
| 15:22:19 | linuxstb | It's probably very similar to the wm8758. |
| 15:22:27 | TiMiD | my last changes made it use the global setting show_icons |
| 15:22:52 | TiMiD | but before, there were a separate setting for playlist |
| 15:23:05 | TiMiD | must I handle that or should ijust follow the global setting ? |
| 15:23:05 | linuxstb | markun: Have you decided to buy one, or are you still thinking about it? |
| 15:23:15 | markun | Still thinking |
| 15:23:24 | markun | :) |
| 15:23:50 | markun | Well, the X30 is not for sale here, so that gives me some time to think :) |
| 15:25:01 | linuxstb | Does it have a standard USB connector, or is that via the dock connector as well? |
| 15:25:25 | markun | There is also a connector on the unit |
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| 15:28:16 | markun | K4S56163PF is 32MB SDRAM |
| 15:29:07 | amiconn | TiMiD: I think this was because the icons in the playlist viewer are somewhat more important than elsewhere, but I have no strong opinion on that. I always had icons enabled. |
| 15:32:42 | TiMiD | I ask this because the gui_list relies partially on the setting show_icons to decide wether it should draw icons or not |
| 15:33:21 | TiMiD | so making it use the other setting would add some small code (well not a lot) |
| 15:35:25 | _FireFly_ | maybe you could use a parameter on gui_init to determine if icons should shown or not |
| 15:35:46 | _FireFly_ | gui_list_init |
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| 15:36:02 | novimon | how to enable the crossfeed? |
| 15:36:14 | _FireFly_ | it is in playback-settings |
| 15:36:28 | TiMiD | eventually |
| 15:37:04 | TiMiD | well I could also just not set the icon callbach in that case |
| 15:39:06 | TiMiD | well about your patch, I will look more deeply this evening |
| 15:39:16 | TiMiD | and maybe commit it if other devs see no objections :) |
| 15:40:46 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD k |
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| 15:49:21 | * | LinusN is browsing files on his h300 :-) |
| 15:49:35 | preglow | !! |
| 15:50:03 | ep0ch| | dare you to play some tunes :p |
| 15:51:37 | TiMiD | LinusN: Congratulations ! |
| 15:51:40 | NicoFR | linus your pgrogress is really impressive :D |
| 15:51:59 | XavierGr | Indeed Gongratulations from me too. |
| 15:52:07 | NicoFR | maybe a pic ? |
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| 15:52:14 | XavierGr | You did that only in 2 days? |
| 15:52:29 | muesli_- | LinusN 4 president :D |
| 15:52:58 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: on the tracker isn't currently the latest version of the widget |
| 15:53:14 | muesli_- | btw there's no h300 ;) |
| 15:53:16 | linuxstb | I wonder if that news is on misticriver yet... |
| 15:53:26 | ep0ch| | meh where is sourceforge :( |
| 15:53:32 | preglow | haha |
| 15:53:38 | TiMiD | _FireFly_: upload it for this evening :) |
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| 15:54:07 | muesli_- | linuxstb just done ;9 |
| 15:54:26 | linuxstb | muesli_-: You're getting slower. |
| 15:54:28 | amiconn | LinusN: I'll commit some lcd fixes tonight, e.g. the pb that the default background is rockbox blue, but becomes white after running a plugin |
| 15:54:30 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD k |
| 15:54:31 | TiMiD | (well maybe this evening I will be in a pub drinking some beers, so if that the case, I won't look at your patch :D) |
| 15:54:46 | TiMiD | but if I'm home then ok :) |
| 15:54:49 | amiconn | It involves 2 new #defines, LCD_DEFAULT_FG and LCD_DEFAULT_BG |
| 15:54:58 | preglow | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=24010 |
| 15:55:01 | preglow | ahahah |
| 15:55:11 | preglow | that took, what, a couple of minutes? |
| 15:55:20 | preglow | heh |
| 15:55:32 | linuxstb | amiconn: You will need to be careful because RGB_PACK can't be evaluated at compile time on the ipod. Maybe we should try and fix that. |
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| 15:56:06 | Moos | Hi all! |
| 15:56:20 | amiconn | linuxstb: I know. I'm thinking about using the standard lcd_set_*ground() fns instead of RGB_PACK() |
| 15:56:47 | amiconn | Just slightly more code |
| 15:56:49 | linuxstb | OK, I'm sure you'll find a nice solution. Just wanted to make sure you knew about the issue. |
| 15:57:34 | amiconn | lcd_set_drawinfo(DRMODE_SOLID, LCD_DEFAULT_FG, LCD_DEFAULT_BG); should in fact do the trick |
| 15:58:58 | linuxstb | How about defining RGB_PACK as a macro for compile-time use, and "rgb_pack" as a function for run-time use. |
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| 16:01:35 | preglow | LinusN: how far is the bootloader from being ready for release, then? |
| 16:01:46 | LinusN | not very far |
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| 16:03:14 | amiconn | linuxstb: the lcd_set_*ground() fns do exactly what RGB_PACK() does at runtime |
| 16:03:16 | preglow | good news, good news |
| 16:03:53 | Slasheri | Hmm, debug (logf) build fails: |
| 16:03:55 | Slasheri | dsp.c:456: error: can't find a register in class `ADDR_REGS' while reloading `asm' |
| 16:03:55 | linuxstb | amiconn: So should we rewrite RGB_PACK so it can always be evaluated at compile-time? |
| 16:04:09 | amiconn | Imho we don't need it |
| 16:04:37 | preglow | Slasheri: that's right, i use the frame pointer |
| 16:04:53 | Slasheri | ah, ok :) |
| 16:04:54 | linuxstb | amiconn: So colours will always be stored as a "struct rgb" in the source and converted to the 16-bit packed format at runtime? |
| 16:05:36 | preglow | Slasheri: if there is such a thing as a debug define, you could add that to the ifdef line |
| 16:05:49 | Slasheri | preglow: i will now check the one ogg file if it still crashes and send it to you |
| 16:06:27 | ep0ch| | preglow: did you find out why mpc hung? |
| 16:06:34 | preglow | ep0ch|: no |
| 16:06:37 | amiconn | linuxstb: Hmm, when I think of it... Sounds like a waste. |
| 16:06:50 | amiconn | I'll think about it, perhaps there's a better solution |
| 16:07:44 | linuxstb | I was thinking that all colours should (wherever possible) be stored as packed rgb565, instead of struct rgb. |
| 16:08:00 | amiconn | preglow, Slasheri: I wonder why logf builds don't specify -fomit-frame-pointer |
| 16:08:32 | Slasheri | amiconn: i wonder that as well |
| 16:08:52 | Slasheri | i think that option should be added because there is no gdb stub available currently |
| 16:09:02 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes, however, that'll change the parameter format for some functions. I'll think about the implications |
| 16:09:31 | amiconn | Slasheri: Yeah, and logf() isn't the option for when you're going to use gdb |
| 16:10:46 | amiconn | linuxstb: The packed rgb565 should always be big endian, yes? |
| 16:11:39 | Slasheri | preglow: do you want the file now? |
| 16:11:43 | Slasheri | i will dcc :) |
| 16:11:45 | preglow | Slasheri: might as well |
| 16:11:48 | Slasheri | good |
| 16:12:11 | Slasheri | it crashes immediately player, cuts hdd power and prints screen full of lines |
| 16:12:18 | preglow | ahahah |
| 16:12:23 | preglow | nice crash |
| 16:12:26 | Slasheri | yep |
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| 16:12:34 | Slasheri | ah, i have to register yet again to dcc :) |
| 16:12:35 | preglow | you tried it in the sim? |
| 16:12:38 | Slasheri | not yet |
| 16:12:56 | Slasheri | i have some modifications that sim doesn't compile currently.. but i will try soon |
| 16:13:00 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes. Unless we change the lcd_update() for the ipod to byte-swap. |
| 16:13:20 | amiconn | Okay. I don't see why this shouldn't be possible at build time |
| 16:13:21 | Mongey| | LinusN you rule, nice work on the h340 |
| 16:13:38 | XavierGr | Hmm interesting I am doing a battery benchmark. |
| 16:14:01 | linuxstb | I don't like using htobe16() for it though - I think we should make the code clearly by having #if CONFIG_LCD==LCD_IPOD_4G || CONFIG_LCD==LCD_IPOD_NANO and using swap16 |
| 16:14:12 | linuxstb | s/clearly/clearer/ |
| 16:14:27 | XavierGr | I started 5.30 yesterday it is 5.15 and the player says 3h 19m left - 14 % level |
| 16:14:43 | XavierGr | 128kbps mp3 50 volume |
| 16:14:45 | linuxstb | And we would replace the swap16 function by a macro. |
| 16:14:53 | amiconn | I think about using a similar mechanism as for the bmp header for screendump() |
| 16:15:02 | amiconn | This is always little endian |
| 16:15:19 | linuxstb | I've discovered that we could write rgb565 bmp files - at the moment I (poorly) convert it to 24-bit. |
| 16:15:39 | XavierGr | it exided 23h 45m that the first estimated time was. |
| 16:15:40 | preglow | XavierGr: well, that's not bad, is it? |
| 16:15:51 | preglow | XavierGr: the estimated time is pure guesswork |
| 16:15:57 | XavierGr | 1900mAh battery, no misunderstandings |
| 16:16:06 | XavierGr | yes it seems very good. |
| 16:16:06 | preglow | XavierGr: what capacity is the default one? |
| 16:16:12 | XavierGr | 1300mAh |
| 16:16:14 | preglow | right |
| 16:16:18 | preglow | well, sounds decent to me |
| 16:16:20 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes we can, and if you look at the bmp2rb source, you'll see that I know about this format |
| 16:16:41 | XavierGr | it has some juice left and I want to see how far it can get. |
| 16:17:07 | XavierGr | though I think that I set the volume too low |
| 16:17:15 | XavierGr | is 50 compared to 20 of iriver fw? |
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| 16:17:37 | Slasheri | XavierGr: no, the scale is non-linear |
| 16:17:47 | XavierGr | ahh then bummer |
| 16:17:58 | XavierGr | this is then below standarts |
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| 16:18:27 | XavierGr | I usually set the volume more than 70-75 to listen to music |
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| 16:18:37 | preglow | i honestly don't think the volume will affect things much |
| 16:18:40 | XavierGr | and more than 85 if it is crowded |
| 16:18:45 | XavierGr | you do? |
| 16:18:55 | XavierGr | because some say it does though I am not sure. |
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| 16:18:57 | preglow | not much, no |
| 16:19:39 | XavierGr | also the album is 54 MB long is it right for a benchmark? |
| 16:19:46 | Slasheri | i think bass might be more important considering power consumptions |
| 16:19:57 | XavierGr | no flat EQ, always flat |
| 16:20:25 | Mordov | hey, I*m looking for a iHp-120 simulator so I can easyer make WPS files.. is there any? |
| 16:20:48 | linuxstb | Mordov: Yes, but you will need to compile it yourself. |
| 16:20:58 | XavierGr | also I really want to see the benchmark battery data from my plugin, which is running simultanesly |
| 16:21:11 | XavierGr | I want to see the graphs |
| 16:21:28 | Mordov | hmmmm, linuxstb can't I copie it from someone? |
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| 16:21:35 | kaouete | hi |
| 16:21:45 | Mordov | I'm no programer... wps are difficult for me ;) |
| 16:22:43 | linuxstb | Mordov: Yes, if you can find someone to give you a copy. But there are no official versions distributed. |
| 16:23:15 | Mordov | ah, ok, so I'll just write a post in the forum and hope :) |
| 16:23:33 | Mordov | got tired of mounting the player :) |
| 16:23:39 | kaouete | i have a strange thing with my archos recorder with rockbox 2.5 : sometimes, (when the battery charge is under 15% sometimes, but this morning it was 30% !) the songs playing just stop, and even when no songs are played i get the message "press stop to shutdown" : it looks like someone press the stop button in fact, but i'm not :] |
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| 16:24:01 | kaouete | is it a know bug ? is it even a bug ? |
| 16:24:01 | jelle-k | hi all |
| 16:25:23 | XavierGr | also did anyone tried or checked my battery benchmark plugin? A benchmark on 128kbps mp3 at 50 volume would be good to be done (with or without the plugin) to check if the results match. Also I have to do now the same test on the iriver fw. |
| 16:28:14 | LinusN | wee, the remote lcd driver just worked without modification on the h300 |
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| 16:28:56 | LinusN | kaouete: did it do this with 2.4 as well? |
| 16:28:58 | preglow | markun: i can speed up crossfeed a bit more by using interleaved delay buffer data |
| 16:29:07 | chopped_pork | XavierGr: i could do some tests as i already did in the past... i'd do flac and vorbis though |
| 16:29:14 | chopped_pork | XavierGr: how do i get/use your plugin? |
| 16:29:23 | kaouete | LinusN: i dont think but i'm not sure : all that i am sure is that before (maybe 2.3) it was not doing this |
| 16:29:32 | preglow | chopped_pork: flac has already been done |
| 16:29:37 | XavierGr | chopped_pork: do you know how to compile? |
| 16:29:49 | markun | preglow: yes that would speed it up. I had only thought of interleaved input, but that is not an option. |
| 16:29:51 | chopped_pork | XavierGr: i will be setting up the crosscompiler today |
| 16:29:59 | chopped_pork | XavierGr: i do know how to compile :) |
| 16:30:04 | XavierGr | else I could you a daily biuld with it |
| 16:30:26 | chopped_pork | i really really want to see unicode in action :) |
| 16:30:39 | XavierGr | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1357370 |
| 16:30:40 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Do you want to update this page with info about your plugin: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverRuntime |
| 16:30:42 | preglow | markun: i can speed up the fetch/store and free a register like that |
| 16:30:45 | markun | chopped_pork: we all do :) |
| 16:31:18 | XavierGr | chopped_pork: please tell me if you want to use the patch or I could sent you the fw file with the plugin |
| 16:31:43 | XavierGr | linuxstb: I will go and update it, as soon as I see the battery log, just to be sure that all is fine with the plugin |
| 16:31:57 | chopped_pork | hm i could try musepack too, since it's slow it'll drain the battery fast anyway :) |
| 16:32:00 | linuxstb | I've just updated the IriverRuntime to add that I had the volume at 80 when doing my tests. |
| 16:33:08 | XavierGr | By the way how the battery ETA is calculated? |
| 16:34:07 | chopped_pork | oh boy i remember back in the day, it was some week or two after there actually was flac playback in rockbox i did a test and the runtime was some 8 hours afair |
| 16:34:43 | chopped_pork | which was already way cool |
| 16:34:50 | linuxstb | chopped_pork: That's interesting. I would have expected the FLAC codec in Rockbox to have progressed more than that. |
| 16:35:34 | linuxstb | But I guess the main battery drain is the disk, and disk usage hasn't changed much since the first playback code. |
| 16:36:00 | chopped_pork | linuxstb: i would have never expected more, because of disk usage |
| 16:36:08 | chopped_pork | you just pwn |
| 16:36:09 | chopped_pork | :> |
| 16:38:53 | Slasheri | Hmm, the disk eats battery quite much. It takes ~500-600 mA at buffering, so after 5-6h of flac playback 600 mAh of power would have been consumed at least |
| 16:39:02 | Slasheri | plus the cpu current |
| 16:42:55 | linuxstb | I've still got a couple more tests I want to do with FLAC - a test with the normal CPU frequency set to 24MHz, and a test with Rockbox sitting in the file browser during playback, instead of having a WPS (with peakmeter) displayed. |
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| 16:43:36 | tucoz | Hi |
| 16:44:06 | linuxstb | Wavpack will be an interesting test - it uses slightly more CPU than FLAC, but the files are slightly smaller. |
| 16:44:39 | XavierGr | linuxstb: are interested in using my plugin? |
| 16:44:47 | tucoz | In the cross compiler howto it is written that Rockbox does not currently work with GCC 4.0.x. Is this still true? |
| 16:44:54 | tucoz | That is in the wiki |
| 16:45:03 | chopped_pork | should i use binutils 2.16 or 2.16.1? |
| 16:45:09 | Slasheri | tucoz: i would not recommend gcc 4 yet |
| 16:45:39 | tucoz | Slasheri, ok. Then it is best to keep that there. |
| 16:45:44 | Slasheri | it should work, but might have some problems |
| 16:47:44 | linuxstb | XavierGr: After you tell me that it doesn't decrease performance :) |
| 16:50:15 | tucoz | chopped_pork, I think 2.16 is good enough |
| 16:50:28 | XavierGr | ok I will try to make the same test without the plugin |
| 16:50:35 | chopped_pork | tucoz: k thanks |
| 16:52:04 | tucoz | I cannot find a changelog that states what has been changed in 2.16.1 |
| 16:52:13 | tucoz | But, 2.16 works fine |
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| 16:55:44 | lamed | hello |
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| 16:56:33 | preglow | tucoz: gcc4 seems to works just fine |
| 16:56:50 | preglow | tucoz: i ran a gcc4 compiled build for days |
| 16:58:10 | lamed | anyone knows what's a "C" means at the start of a line from "cvs update -dP" |
| 16:58:13 | lamed | i'm getting: |
| 16:58:16 | lamed | C apps/gui/list.c |
| 16:58:20 | linuxstb | C is bad :) |
| 16:58:31 | preglow | linuxstb: conflict :/ |
| 16:58:32 | tucoz | preglow, I see. Well, I can change that statement to "seems to work just fine" instead of "does not currently work" ;) Or what do you say? |
| 16:58:32 | preglow | ehh |
| 16:58:34 | lamed | u mean it didn't updated the file.. |
| 16:58:35 | preglow | lamed: conflict :/ |
| 16:58:37 | lamed | right conflict. |
| 16:58:50 | lamed | M=merge? |
| 16:58:52 | preglow | tucoz: seems to work just fine, yes |
| 16:58:55 | preglow | yes |
| 16:58:58 | tucoz | ok |
| 16:59:15 | linuxstb | Yes, it updated the file, but there will be parts of it marked with "<<<<<<<<<<" - you need to manually edit and resolve the conflicts. |
| 16:59:37 | linuxstb | Or if you want to discard your local changes, just delete the file and do update again. |
| 16:59:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 17:00:36 | lamed | yes, here it is... |
| 17:02:42 | lamed | woop, yeah, i've got totally to different files there :/ but good thing that the gui widget is getting worked on. have a gday! |
| 17:03:03 | _FireFly_ | lamed: which gui widget ?? |
| 17:03:11 | tucoz | preglow, this is only for coldfire, right? |
| 17:03:26 | lamed | the gui_list |
| 17:03:29 | _FireFly_ | k |
| 17:03:30 | preglow | tucoz: yes |
| 17:03:35 | preglow | tucoz: wont work at all for sh |
| 17:03:43 | tucoz | ok |
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| 17:06:23 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: i'm going to update my widget on tracker |
| 17:07:27 | _FireFly_ | argh sf is slow |
| 17:08:49 | _FireFly_ | ok updated |
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| 17:23:29 | XavierGr | end of benchmark: Total runtime 24h 52 minutes (wtf lets say 25h) 1900mAh battery mp3 128kbps EQ flat, 50 Volume |
| 17:23:53 | ep0ch| | nice |
| 17:24:05 | ep0ch| | was that buffering from disk too? |
| 17:24:43 | XavierGr | hmm just checked the log, last successful right was at 24h 22minutes |
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| 17:26:53 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: currently here ?? |
| 17:27:04 | XavierGr | that was the result from the builtin timer in rockbox 24h 22m |
| 17:27:44 | XavierGr | http://pastebin.com/431834 |
| 17:27:48 | XavierGr | here is the log |
| 17:27:54 | XavierGr | battery log |
| 17:29:17 | XavierGr | hmm 51 succesfull right on the disk. |
| 17:29:23 | XavierGr | ^writes |
| 17:30:31 | XavierGr | One write every 28,6 minutes |
| 17:30:49 | XavierGr | amazing more or less like the buffer size... |
| 17:31:35 | ep0ch| | yeah i think 1mb of 128kbps is about a minute |
| 17:31:46 | XavierGr | yes exactly |
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| 17:33:17 | XavierGr | also when the battery reached 0% or ETA 0 minutes there was no successfull HD write. |
| 17:34:06 | XavierGr | So the error on the benchmark was exactly as it should. 30 minutes!!! |
| 17:34:14 | XavierGr | for mp3 128kbps |
| 17:34:55 | XavierGr | very accurate results :D |
| 17:35:58 | XavierGr | the disk managed to make 51st write. That was logged. Then the player continued for another ~30 minutes and it stutdonw on the 52 HD access which failed. (and the log couldn't be updated) |
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| 17:36:42 | XavierGr | So the error of the mesurement comes from the bitrate of the files played. |
| 17:37:17 | XavierGr | As bitrate gets bigger the error is smaller. |
| 17:38:09 | XavierGr | then the error will be at about 1hour incase 64kbps mp3 are tested |
| 17:39:59 | XavierGr | also the voltage dropped till 3.46. Strange last time I pushed the player to 2.73. But then it shut in front of my eyes. So I think that 3.46 was the voltage 30 minutes before shutdown. |
| 17:40:20 | XavierGr | now let's make some graphs |
| 17:44:03 | tucoz | XavierGr, you should probably change the decimal separator to from , to . |
| 17:44:07 | tucoz | in the voltage |
| 17:44:18 | XavierGr | yes, sorry localization issue |
| 17:44:50 | tucoz | It is the same here |
| 17:45:18 | XavierGr | country? |
| 17:45:49 | tucoz | Norway at the moment. It is the same in Sweden (where I am from), as well. |
| 17:46:10 | XavierGr | I will search in which countries it is a '.' |
| 17:46:20 | XavierGr | I think UK and US for sure |
| 17:46:47 | Slasheri | Hmm, probably it's almost alwhere in europe , (at least here in finland). But i use . always instead, because for example programming languages don't like , |
| 17:47:14 | XavierGr | yes |
| 17:47:42 | chopped_pork | it's , in poland too |
| 17:47:59 | tucoz | Slasheri, and it isn't very good to use in maths as well. For instance to describe a set of floats (3,14, 2,618, 1,14) |
| 17:48:06 | chopped_pork | i like dots better anyway |
| 17:48:10 | chopped_pork | :> |
| 17:48:16 | Slasheri | tucoz: yes, true |
| 17:48:31 | XavierGr | well I use dots to describe thousands |
| 17:48:31 | tucoz | wonder why they settled for the , |
| 17:48:33 | Slasheri | or one could use 1,23 ; 1,50 but that is confusing too |
| 17:48:48 | _FireFly_ | XavierGr: you should use a seperator which will be correctly understand in a spreadsheet app |
| 17:48:55 | linuxstb | Or change the units - 1230mV |
| 17:49:02 | _FireFly_ | or that |
| 17:49:05 | tucoz | :) |
| 17:49:16 | XavierGr | yes probably mV is better. |
| 17:49:24 | linuxstb | Why solve a problem when you can avoid it? |
| 17:49:27 | amiconn | _FireFly_: Yes, and e.g. OpenOffice wants , when set to german, but . when set to english |
| 17:49:39 | XavierGr | my spreadsheet wants ',' |
| 17:49:40 | tucoz | linuxstb, KISS |
| 17:50:02 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: also when you import a csv file ?? |
| 17:50:18 | amiconn | yes, afaik |
| 17:50:38 | _FireFly_ | if so then avoid a seperator :) |
| 17:51:08 | tucoz | Seems to drop quite quickly when reaching 3.7 volts |
| 17:52:12 | _FireFly_ | yepp it is always when going to "empty" |
| 17:53:04 | _FireFly_ | a good battery should hold the voltage as long as it could and then rapitly drop to "empty-voltage" |
| 17:53:16 | tucoz | I see |
| 17:53:43 | tucoz | see you |
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| 17:56:14 | tucoz | I just remembered. Do any of you know why the iriver is silent at 96Mhz (radio). A user in the forums is saying that he listens to a station at that frequency on other devices. |
| 17:56:27 | wubbla | is it possible to compile rockbox using the debian sarge package: prc-tools-m68k |
| 17:56:30 | wubbla | ? |
| 17:56:51 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: you are right i have just tested it |
| 17:56:58 | tucoz | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1832.msg12193#msg12193 |
| 17:57:59 | XavierGr | Hmm the ETA calculation I think can be better (and the % level). If the battery drops so quickly from 3,46. |
| 17:58:39 | XavierGr | Because while the ETA measurement at start is very accurate then, at about the end of the battery it is completely wrong |
| 17:58:56 | Mordov | where do I report bugs? |
| 17:59:03 | XavierGr | But I don't know how this caclulation is done, so if anyone has info... |
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| 18:00:26 | tucoz | Mordov, You could just mention your bugs here, and someone will pick it up |
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| 18:00:48 | Mordov | :) |
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| 18:03:20 | Mordov | bug report: I deleted some files in teh Tag mode yesterday, tehy didn't get delete but just alterd. this caused the player to lock up when browsing and I could not uppdate my DB file bacause when getting to the songs that was alted I got a java out of heap memmory bug. I deleted the files manualy using windows exploer and all was fine after that. ONe schoud not be alowed to delete files in Tag mode if it doen's work ;) |
| 18:03:53 | HCl | what do you mean delete files in tag mode? |
| 18:05:20 | Mordov | I can delte files... I press teh joystick and get a delte option |
| 18:05:39 | Mordov | I can delete something... oviusly not the file :) |
| 18:05:54 | HCl | as far as i know that should just delete the file |
| 18:05:59 | HCl | shouldn't affect the database |
| 18:06:11 | Mordov | yapp, but it doen't |
| 18:06:16 | Mordov | the file is still there |
| 18:06:19 | HCl | mk |
| 18:06:22 | HCl | odd |
| 18:06:23 | Mordov | I havn't tested that today |
| 18:06:28 | Mordov | I'll cherck noe |
| 18:06:33 | Mordov | -e +w |
| 18:06:57 | HCl | i never really liked the way rockbox browses the database, or the way the database uses raw offsets, in the first place |
| 18:07:03 | HCl | its extremely unclean and unmanagable |
| 18:07:15 | _FireFly_ | HCL write a new one ;) |
| 18:07:27 | _FireFly_ | if you can |
| 18:07:30 | HCl | i *wrote* the current design |
| 18:07:39 | HCl | i wanted to make it more abstract |
| 18:07:45 | HCl | but there was heavy resistance from the other developers |
| 18:07:49 | HCl | so i had to compromise |
| 18:08:24 | Mordov | today I can't delete in tag mod :) only playlist and open with visible :) |
| 18:08:26 | HCl | the offsets aren't that much of a disaster, aside from changing small bits of the database |
| 18:08:49 | HCl | the gorey code is in the database browsing, which i didn't touch much aside from updating it to work with the new format |
| 18:09:06 | Mordov | my biggest irritation is that the Tag browsing changing is a bit slow |
| 18:09:15 | XavierGr | overall I am very glad with the benchmark results. This evening I will make the same test without the plugin, to see if it matters. Then I will update the wiki. |
| 18:09:15 | HCl | yea, thats on a todo list somewhere |
| 18:09:28 | HCl | its mostly cause of the gorey design of the database browsing |
| 18:09:32 | HCl | that its hard to get the way we want |
| 18:09:42 | HCl | (extra folder like thing in the root directory that allows you to browse the database) |
| 18:10:01 | Mordov | :D think it would make the whole firmware more stady,,, I have had some hangs during browsing |
| 18:10:21 | HCl | the problem of that mostly lies with the gorey design of the database. |
| 18:10:40 | HCl | its a bit of a trade off between memory+cleanness and performance. |
| 18:10:45 | HCl | most developers prefer performance |
| 18:11:09 | HCl | oh wait, its cleanness and performance+memory |
| 18:11:18 | HCl | most developers prefer perfomance/memory |
| 18:11:33 | Mordov | we al do :) |
| 18:11:36 | HCl | where i'd rather have it work clean and right,more slowly, than quickly and dirty :) |
| 18:11:41 | Mordov | I know where the reset butin is ;) |
| 18:12:23 | Mordov | If I coud chose between faster changing betwene tag's in differnt foldewrs and more stady system I would go for the first |
| 18:12:42 | HCl | yea, thats what was decided on |
| 18:12:42 | Mordov | but not in any extreme ways... |
| 18:12:55 | HCl | but an effect of it is that the code is unmanagable, and glitchy |
| 18:13:17 | Mordov | hehe, taht is not good :) |
| 18:13:29 | Mordov | unmanagable, and glitchy sounded frustrating for you :) |
| 18:13:41 | HCl | yea, one of the reasons why i practically refused to touch that part of the database |
| 18:13:47 | HCl | i only updated it to work with the new format. |
| 18:13:49 | Mordov | hehe:) |
| 18:16:56 | HCl | my cat is so cute |
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| 18:18:27 | XavierGr | meaow! I love cats. |
| 18:19:29 | HCl | :) |
| 18:19:30 | HCl | bbl |
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| 19:24:59 | pinkutank | hey ho guys |
| 19:25:40 | pinkutank | I've compiled a jpeg viewer that allows both scrolling and skipping to a enxt/prev file and allows you to listen to music while doing so |
| 19:25:58 | Maxime`` | eheh |
| 19:26:11 | pinkutank | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1828.0 |
| 19:30:02 | wubbla | is there a difference between m68k-linux-gcc and m68-elf-gcc? |
| 19:30:37 | Maxime`` | probably, as they haven't the same name :s |
| 19:30:38 | Maxime`` | :x |
| 19:31:34 | wubbla | and what is the difference? :D |
| 19:32:10 | Maxime`` | dunno ^^ sry :x |
| 19:35:47 | wubbla | k ;-) |
| 19:37:38 | pinkutank | where is the spalsh image in the source to edit? |
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| 19:45:54 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 19:46:08 | Jungti1234 | markun: are you here? |
| 19:50:25 | amiconn | linuxstb: In fact your idea to always use packed rgb colour values solves a fair number of problems, e.g. with the multiscreen code |
| 19:51:03 | amiconn | This way the data format for a pixel value is identical for both colour and greyscale lcds |
| 19:51:19 | amiconn | (unsigned int) |
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| 20:07:38 | pinkutank | which file do i need to chanfe to change the spalsh image? |
| 20:07:57 | pinkutank | while compiling |
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| 20:13:16 | TiMiD | I've a question |
| 20:13:44 | TiMiD | how do you make scanf read strings with a white space as one single string instead of stopping the reading |
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| 20:15:00 | TiMiD | for example I have a string "foo1 foo2" |
| 20:15:17 | TiMiD | and scanf first reads "foo1" then "foo2" |
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| 20:19:23 | Mordov | can I do anything to make the ramote work better on my iHp-120? |
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| 20:22:04 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: updated version of my widget is on tracker (if you have some free time :) ) |
| 20:31:46 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD: it seams it isn't possible (scanf) look at man scanf |
| 20:32:32 | _FireFly_ | because scanf returns on each white space it finds in the input-stream (stdin) |
| 20:38:11 | pinkutank | hey timid |
| 20:38:33 | pinkutank | ive succesfully compiled a build |
| 20:39:07 | pinkutank | and not stopping there, I combined to plugins that otherwise interfered with each other, and released a combo patch to the website :) |
| 20:41:37 | TiMiD | _FireFly_: no party this evening, but I must help my sister with her C programming project so maybe later :) |
| 20:41:55 | _FireFly_ | k, ;) |
| 20:42:05 | TiMiD | pinkutank: so you have the plugin patched as you wanted ? |
| 20:42:09 | TiMiD | great :) |
| 20:46:16 | pinkutank | yes, I even have it up on the forum if anyone wants it |
| 20:46:37 | pinkutank | which file do i need to edit so I can change the splash logo? |
| 20:46:50 | LinusN | apps/icons.c |
| 20:49:13 | pinkutank | apps/gui/icon.c ? |
| 20:50:00 | LinusN | sorry |
| 20:50:06 | LinusN | apps/recorder/icons.c |
| 20:51:45 | pinkutank | do i extract them via a decompiler? |
| 20:51:50 | TiMiD | LinusN: I think the dir recorder / player are quite confusing |
| 20:51:57 | LinusN | what is it that you want to do? |
| 20:52:07 | LinusN | TiMiD: of course it is |
| 20:52:12 | pinkutank | change the graphics that the palyer uses, currently aimin at tthe rockbox logo |
| 20:52:13 | TiMiD | it could be renamed to bitmap/charcell ? |
| 20:52:25 | amiconn | LinusN: What do you think is better: RGB_PACK() or LCD_RGBPACK() ? |
| 20:52:26 | TiMiD | (I know it's for historical reasons) |
| 20:52:27 | LinusN | TiMiD: not without causing huge problems |
| 20:52:44 | LinusN | amiconn: it doesn't matter to me |
| 20:52:55 | LinusN | TiMiD: cvs doesn't have a rename function |
| 20:53:09 | pinkutank | what kind of unpacker should i use |
| 20:53:15 | TiMiD | hmmm |
| 20:53:19 | TiMiD | and a delete ? |
| 20:53:29 | TiMiD | (I assume delete is logged too) |
| 20:53:43 | LinusN | TiMiD: the files will lose all cvs history |
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| 20:55:02 | Mordov_ | is rockbox for iPod nano out? |
| 20:55:12 | _FireFly_ | with svn it is possible to rename (move) a file or directory ;) |
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| 20:55:49 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 20:55:50 | pinkutank | oii |
| 20:56:01 | pinkutank | how can I create bitmaps from the resoruce files |
| 20:56:34 | linuxstb_ | Mordov_: No. There is a working bootloader, but Rockbox itself isn't working yet. |
| 20:56:49 | LinusN | pinkutank: create a monochrome bmp file and convert it using tools/bmp2rb |
| 20:57:07 | LinusN | _FireFly_: yes |
| 20:57:16 | amiconn | Doesn |
| 20:57:23 | amiconn | 't need to be monochrome |
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| 20:57:36 | LinusN | true, but then you don't know how it will look |
| 20:57:41 | t0mas | hi |
| 20:57:50 | Mordov_ | linuxstb_: ok, my frined just bought nano and have been bitching abaout the firmware and soware for an houer :) |
| 20:57:57 | amiconn | LinusN: It will map the brightness levels to the closest possible ones |
| 20:58:02 | Mordov_ | one haw to have iphoto to make photo work |
| 20:58:03 | pinkutank | is there a way to dump the ones it has in it so i can see them |
| 20:58:21 | amiconn | In fact the .bmp for h1x0 should have more than 2 colours |
| 20:58:29 | LinusN | amiconn: true |
| 20:59:00 | amiconn | It's no more the old bmp2rb where you never knew how it comes out ;) |
| 20:59:16 | LinusN | :-) |
| 20:59:36 | amiconn | pinkutank: Just do a screendump (possible on target and simulator) |
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| 21:00:25 | pinkutank | doeswsnt screedump dump the hole screen |
| 21:00:33 | amiconn | yes |
| 21:00:35 | pinkutank | i think the rockbox site had a wiki page |
| 21:00:38 | Slasheri | Hehe, i got almost zero-latency wps working |
| 21:00:46 | _FireFly_ | how |
| 21:00:59 | Slasheri | Now it will display track title (parsed from filename) immediately without delays |
| 21:01:07 | Slasheri | when skipping tracks fast |
| 21:01:30 | Slasheri | i will commit later after i have checked for a few possible problems |
| 21:01:35 | _FireFly_ | how ?? |
| 21:01:53 | t0mas | from filename |
| 21:01:58 | linuxstb_ | Slasheri: Do your changes help with the ALAC/AAC .m4a problem? |
| 21:01:59 | t0mas | so not the id3-tag I assume? |
| 21:02:00 | Slasheri | _FireFly_: just updating playlist position immediately and letting audio catch later |
| 21:02:11 | Slasheri | linuxstb_: unfortunately no :/ |
| 21:02:17 | Slasheri | t0mas: yep, no |
| 21:02:32 | Slasheri | we generate a temporary id3-entry from fly until real entry is generated |
| 21:02:46 | linuxstb_ | Also, do you check the return value of get_metadata() ? If it returns false, the file is unplayable. |
| 21:02:46 | t0mas | we can also add that to the dircache? |
| 21:02:57 | Slasheri | Hmm |
| 21:03:05 | t0mas | it would make the cache bigger... |
| 21:03:13 | Slasheri | maybe, but that will be more complex |
| 21:03:17 | t0mas | so it should be an option... but I think some people might like it |
| 21:03:19 | Slasheri | yes, much bigger |
| 21:03:46 | Slasheri | i keep that in mind too :) |
| 21:05:09 | pinkutank | which file has the splash logo itself |
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| 21:06:07 | LinusN | apps/recorder/icons.c |
| 21:06:58 | pinkutank | const unsigned char rockbox112x37[]={ |
| 21:07:01 | pinkutank | this ? |
| 21:07:23 | LinusN | that's the archos version |
| 21:07:59 | pinkutank | const unsigned char rockbox160x53x2[] |
| 21:08:26 | LinusN | yes, that's the iriver h120 version |
| 21:08:35 | _FireFly_ | for the main display |
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| 21:22:30 | Slasheri | Hmm, the playlist needs some modification too to support dircache. Then it shouldn't need to save the current playlist on disk |
| 21:23:42 | wubbla | hmm... |
| 21:23:47 | wubbla | something is weird |
| 21:24:00 | wubbla | i cannot compile anything in tools/* |
| 21:24:06 | wubbla | using the rockbox devkit on win32 |
| 21:24:13 | Slasheri | what is the problem? |
| 21:24:46 | wubbla | i'm getting an 16bit-MS-DOS-error |
| 21:25:15 | wubbla | some ugly pop-up appears... |
| 21:25:30 | Slasheri | ah, that's windows :/ |
| 21:26:19 | Mordov_ | could I do something to make my ramote better? |
| 21:26:20 | Slasheri | try to find out which of the programs crashes.. make, m68k-elf-gcc etc |
| 21:26:37 | Mordov_ | h-120 |
| 21:26:44 | wubbla | something about the NTVDM-CPU detecting a bad command (i've no idea what it's called in english, as my system's language is set to german) |
| 21:26:48 | wubbla | gcc crashes |
| 21:27:06 | wubbla | i manually tried to "gcc -o iriver.o iriver.c iriver.h" |
| 21:27:08 | Slasheri | Mordov_: if you want a wps on the remote, _FireFly_ might have a patch for you |
| 21:27:12 | wubbla | and that crashed... |
| 21:27:20 | Slasheri | oh, something is really wrong then |
| 21:27:21 | Mordov_ | Slasheri :) thanks |
| 21:27:34 | Slasheri | wubbla: hmm, you should not give header files for gcc |
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| 21:27:53 | Slasheri | just try "make" |
| 21:28:12 | wubbla | ahh... |
| 21:28:18 | wubbla | just a second |
| 21:28:34 | wubbla | /cygdrive/c/Rockbox/rockbox/tools>gcc -o iriver.o iriver.c |
| 21:28:34 | wubbla | /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: install |
| 21:28:37 | wubbla | ation problem, cannot exec `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/../../../../i6 |
| 21:28:40 | wubbla | 86-pc-cygwin/bin/ld': Invalid argument |
| 21:28:42 | wubbla | collect2: ld returned 255 exit status |
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| 21:33:37 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 21:34:05 | pinkutank | i used bmp2rb |
| 21:34:10 | pinkutank | and converted a monochrome bmp |
| 21:34:17 | pinkutank | to 4 level h1x0 |
| 21:34:28 | pinkutank | but it appears scrambled in the player |
| 21:34:57 | pinkutank | I copied the text from a cmnd window and pasted it in the icons file by a hex editor, anything wrong there? |
| 21:35:26 | _FireFly_ | hex-editor ?? |
| 21:35:41 | pinkutank | i use a hex editor instead of notepad, easier to keep track of line # |
| 21:40:23 | Slasheri | eh.. you should use a real programming editor, that undestands the language you are working with :) (sorry, but i can't recommend anything for windows users) |
| 21:40:53 | * | amiconn recommends ConTEXT |
| 21:41:00 | _FireFly_ | jedit notepad+ ConText |
| 21:41:22 | pinkutank | i use ultraedit -32 |
| 21:41:35 | dpassen1 | i also use ultraedit |
| 21:41:51 | linuxstb_ | pinkutank: Is your replacement bitmap the same size as the original? |
| 21:42:23 | pinkutank | should be |
| 21:42:25 | pinkutank | lets see |
| 21:42:43 | pinkutank | yes |
| 21:42:45 | pinkutank | 160x 53 |
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| 21:45:24 | pinkutank | 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x30, 0x30, 0xff, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, |
| 21:45:24 | pinkutank | 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, |
| 21:45:25 | pinkutank | 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xc0, 0xcc, |
| 21:45:25 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK pinkutank |
| 21:45:25 | pinkutank | 0xcc, 0x0c, 0x30, 0x30, 0xc0, 0xc0, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, |
| 21:45:25 | pinkutank | 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xc0, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x0c, 0xcc, 0xcc, 0xcc, |
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| 21:45:25 | pinkutank | 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0xc0, 0xc0, 0xc0, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, |
| 21:45:27 | pinkutank | 0x30, 0xff, 0x30, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, 0x30, |
| 21:45:29 | pinkutank | 0x30, 0x30, 0xf0, 0x3c, 0x33, 0x30, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, |
| 21:45:31 | pinkutank | 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, |
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| 21:46:54 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 21:46:58 | pinkutank | I got the boot |
| 21:47:00 | pinkutank | naturally |
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| 21:48:56 | pinkutank | is there a way for bmp2rb |
| 21:49:05 | pinkutank | to save instead of output text |
| 21:50:10 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 21:50:12 | pinkutank | hoot |
| 21:50:27 | linuxstb_ | Just redirect the output. i.e. type "bmp2rb-f 2 bitmap.bmp > outputfile.c" |
| 21:50:28 | LinusN | redirect the output |
| 21:52:53 | pinkutank | ty |
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| 22:16:53 | pinkutank | it worked that way |
| 22:17:08 | pinkutank | now a monkey greets me |
| 22:17:24 | pinkutank | is there a way to create a bigger splash image? |
| 22:18:00 | _FireFly_ | for what ?? |
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| 22:21:47 | pinkutank | h120, rockbox |
| 22:22:07 | pinkutank | or do i have to use the default size, there is a lto of space on the screen |
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| 22:22:40 | Wonderboy | hey |
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| 22:28:33 | San | how is the H300 port coming along |
| 22:28:33 | San | ? |
| 22:28:56 | Cassandra | _FireFly_, you've got some C++ style comments in your WPS widget. |
| 22:29:15 | _FireFly_ | could be |
| 22:30:03 | Cassandra | http://www.rockbox.org/docs/contributing.html |
| 22:30:22 | Cassandra | Please have a read of that and amend your code as appropriate. Thanks. |
| 22:32:25 | Cassandra | Apart from that, your patch scares me. It is big and complex. :) |
| 22:34:06 | _FireFly_ | currently i have only made a multi-screen interface to the old wps-code and needed modification |
| 22:34:23 | _FireFly_ | in the code so that it works with the interface |
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| 22:36:15 | Cassandra | *nods* I'm not sure I feel competant to review it. :( |
| 22:37:29 | Cassandra | I may adopt the "suck it and see approach" - compile for Archos and see if anything breaks. |
| 22:38:07 | Cassandra | Can't see anything obviously wrong with your coding style. Lots of lovely comments. (We like comments. Rockbox needs more comments.0 |
| 22:38:26 | _FireFly_ | it shouldn't break anything on other targets but who knows we are only humans :) |
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| 22:38:33 | San | has LinusN got the browser on the H300 working? |
| 22:38:54 | XavierGr | yes |
| 22:39:04 | Cassandra | Did he? News to me. |
| 22:39:09 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:39:14 | San | :D |
| 22:39:15 | Cassandra | Cool. |
| 22:39:16 | San | good work man |
| 22:39:19 | kaouete | :] |
| 22:39:26 | NicoFR | this is real good :D |
| 22:39:30 | San | and the remote needs no porting I heard? |
| 22:39:38 | NicoFR | do you happen to have pics ? |
| 22:39:43 | LinusN | nope |
| 22:39:47 | San | NP |
| 22:39:48 | San | :D |
| 22:39:52 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: updated |
| 22:40:09 | San | made any more progress linusN? |
| 22:40:14 | San | or working on anything else? |
| 22:40:16 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:40:16 | * | amiconn hopes his LCD changes do work on the colour targets |
| 22:40:22 | amiconn | They do work on the sim |
| 22:40:23 | Cassandra | LinusN, any opinions on the wps-widget patch. I'm tempted to apply it and see if it works for Archos, and commit if it does. |
| 22:40:29 | ^BeN^ | LOL=\, no anyone from rockbox crew here? |
| 22:40:37 | LinusN | no general opinions, no |
| 22:40:41 | Cassandra | Same goes for you amiconn. |
| 22:41:10 | LinusN | ^BeN^: what a funny question |
| 22:41:10 | Cassandra | So this is not a bad plan then? |
| 22:41:22 | LinusN | i don't think it is |
| 22:41:29 | Cassandra | No, none of us have anything to do with Rockbox. |
| 22:41:35 | LinusN | :-) |
| 22:41:47 | ^BeN^ | mmm sorry but i dont see any op |
| 22:41:57 | Cassandra | We just hang out on #rockbox because, erm, ...... |
| 22:42:02 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 22:42:03 | Cassandra | We're French. |
| 22:42:03 | San | lol |
| 22:42:09 | ^BeN^ | ok dude |
| 22:42:09 | Cassandra | Yes, that's the reason. |
| 22:42:14 | San | :P |
| 22:42:20 | ^BeN^ | =] |
| 22:42:21 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: the only thing which could break a build on other targets could my fix for the not get cleared images on wps |
| 22:42:25 | NicoFR | i'm french... is that a problem ? ^^ |
| 22:42:34 | t0mas | it is |
| 22:42:40 | t0mas | if you try to speak that language... |
| 22:42:43 | t0mas | I'll freak out |
| 22:42:45 | Cassandra | Only if you think it is. |
| 22:42:53 | pinkutank | :) |
| 22:42:59 | NicoFR | I can do more than try |
| 22:43:06 | San | BTW, that image of the H300 with the rockbox logo, was that real? How did you get it up? I notice a ribbon wire out the side. Is that for testing? |
| 22:43:12 | t0mas | I had a 7,9 out ot 10 on my last test... but still I don't understand a thing in French :) |
| 22:43:44 | NicoFR | it can't be that bad |
| 22:43:45 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 22:43:51 | pinkutank | did preglow spurt the eq yet? |
| 22:44:14 | Cassandra | Ewwww! |
| 22:44:38 | San | lol |
| 22:45:02 | LinusN | San: that's the BDM connection |
| 22:45:13 | LinusN | and yes, that was real |
| 22:45:28 | San | nice :D |
| 22:45:35 | San | so, port coming soon? |
| 22:45:53 | Cassandra | _FireFly_, patches cleanly, anyway |
| 22:46:04 | NicoFR | I was wondering... once the bootloader is done, how much more work will be required to have rockbox functionnal on the h300 ? |
| 22:46:15 | NicoFR | I mean same level as h100 |
| 22:46:44 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: the build on non lcd-bitmap target will fail |
| 22:46:45 | t0mas | not to much |
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| 22:46:54 | t0mas | NicoFR: a lot of hardware is the same as the H1xx |
| 22:47:14 | t0mas | so if the LCD is working... and the bootloader is working, we won't have to wait long for audio playback |
| 22:47:16 | _FireFly_ | because i have forgotten to ifdefout my fix for non lcd-bitmap-targets |
| 22:47:19 | NicoFR | ok |
| 22:47:20 | XavierGr | ok second battery test started at 11:45 p.m local time |
| 22:47:30 | Cassandra | _Firefly_, just spotted that, yes. |
| 22:47:35 | _FireFly_ | i will update the patch on the tracker |
| 22:47:39 | XavierGr | (without my plugin lets see if it shows something different) |
| 22:47:45 | Cassandra | OK. I'll revert in the mean time |
| 22:48:22 | pinkutank | XavierGr, I combined your jpeg patch with someone elses no we all can have non interrupting file scrolling jpeg viewers, I posted it on the site, giving credit to you, I hope you dont mind |
| 22:48:26 | Cassandra | You might want to check for a rogue comment in dbtree.c before line 167 as well. |
| 22:48:58 | XavierGr | I hope you gave credit ot the other guy too. |
| 22:49:14 | pinkutank | of course i did |
| 22:49:35 | XavierGr | and no I don't mind. I am happy to see a little of my work posted for others. Thanks |
| 22:49:42 | pinkutank | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1837.0 |
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| 22:50:08 | XavierGr | Sometime I will look at it, maybe I will try and make it even better. My patch has space for optimizations. |
| 22:51:20 | _FireFly_ | hmm my search for c++-style comment found many files |
| 22:52:07 | Bagder | sloppy reviews let them through |
| 22:52:12 | pinkutank | normally, the two patches overlapped, giving errors, so I merged them, referring to 4 different jpeg.cs to check, because I dont know c++ |
| 22:52:29 | pinkutank | anyway, thanks a lot |
| 22:52:50 | _FireFly_ | Bagder: these comments are mostly in codecs-sources |
| 22:52:54 | Cassandra | _FireFly_, and the culprit of every single one of them should be roundly spanked for not reading the coding style. :) |
| 22:52:55 | Bagder | ah, right |
| 22:53:04 | Bagder | codecs of course don't follow our guidelines |
| 22:53:36 | Cassandra | There's actually a fair few in apps. Very naughty. |
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| 22:55:26 | NicoFR | thx for the answers |
| 22:55:27 | NicoFR | bye |
| 22:55:40 | NicoFR | and keep on the good work ;) |
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| 22:56:17 | Bagder | I've added a h300 sim win32 build now |
| 22:56:37 | amiconn | Nice :) |
| 22:57:27 | Bagder | we just need a commit now to see it appear |
| 22:58:01 | LinusN | YIIIIIIEEEEHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:58:09 | LinusN | i just booted rockbox on my h300!!!! |
| 22:58:13 | * | Bagder buckles up |
| 22:58:19 | Cassandra | Someone detach Linus from the mains. |
| 22:58:23 | Cassandra | Woohoo! |
| 22:58:37 | * | Bagder writes down 22:58 |
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| 22:59:05 | Bagder | you just rock LinusN |
| 22:59:40 | ender` | LinusN: congratulations! |
| 22:59:46 | LinusN | damn, that felt goooooood |
| 22:59:50 | ^BeN^ | congratulations! |
| 22:59:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:59:54 | ^BeN^ | =] |
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| 23:00:11 | Cassandra | Bah. Now I want an H3xx so I can admire the coolness. |
| 23:00:16 | ender` | Bagder: it was 23:00:10 according to my (NTP-synchronized) clock :) |
| 23:00:57 | Bagder | I think your ntp-synced clock is wrong :-) |
| 23:01:01 | Cassandra | I'll just commit a WPS or two while I'm waiting for a revised patch from _firefly_, I think. |
| 23:01:05 | Cassandra | I agree with Badger. |
| 23:01:13 | Cassandra | Windows time sync bloweth the goats. |
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| 23:02:23 | ender` | my linux box is syncing with 2 stratum 2 servers, and my windows box is synced from the linux box with net time |
| 23:02:45 | Bagder | I checked several hosts, they all agree with my time |
| 23:02:49 | Bagder | and I just resynced |
| 23:03:16 | Bagder | so, I guess we're on a 2 minute time zone diff ;-) |
| 23:03:32 | ender` | i stopped ntpd and ran ntpdate just to be sure on mnie |
| 23:03:34 | amiconn | Congrats Linus! :-) |
| 23:03:38 | Bagder | hehe |
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| 23:04:19 | webguest68 | psst. the log: 22.58.01 # <LinusN> YIIIIIIEEEEHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:04:25 | webguest68 | hehe |
| 23:04:32 | Bagder | mark my words ;-) |
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| 23:05:47 | ender` | argh, you're right, gentoo init scripts overwrote my ntp.conf and put my isp's servers in ... which are 129,24 seconds off |
| 23:08:57 | _FireFly_ | ender`: i don't think so :) maybe you have overwritten yourself the config with etc-update ;) |
| 23:09:51 | ender` | i'm pretty sure i haven't - i hacked my etc-update to color all files that aren't known to me as safe for updating in red |
| 23:10:33 | _FireFly_ | ah good that i just done a build test :) i have found some typos of my last changes |
| 23:12:58 | linuxstb_ | The H300 news was on the mistic river thread 5 minutes before Linus announced it... |
| 23:13:18 | linuxstb_ | Either they've got ntp problems or Linus needs to close his windoes. |
| 23:13:22 | LinusN | we have a leak! :-) |
| 23:13:25 | linuxstb_ | s/windoes/windows/ |
| 23:13:29 | Bagder | a mole! |
| 23:13:39 | LinusN | or a psychic! |
| 23:14:01 | San | hehe, who posted it in the MR thread? |
| 23:14:13 | petur | me |
| 23:14:15 | Bagder | actually, it was posted 4 minutes after LinusN |
| 23:14:19 | San | ah |
| 23:14:56 | LinusN | 11:02 PM |
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| 23:15:16 | petur | am setting things up to help out on the H300 (oh no not another windows user) |
| 23:15:34 | petur | when building the crosscompiler, what target does one specify? |
| 23:15:34 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:15:41 | Bagder | arm-elf |
| 23:15:43 | XavierGr | LinusN: Through BDM ir bootloader? |
| 23:15:44 | Bagder | uh |
| 23:15:47 | Bagder | m68k-elf |
| 23:15:51 | LinusN | XavierGr: bootloader |
| 23:15:54 | * | Bagder blushes |
| 23:15:57 | XavierGr | wow! |
| 23:16:14 | XavierGr | Now I am jealous of H300 users :( |
| 23:16:48 | aliask | LinusN: Congrats! Now, we expect it in CVS so I can compile it and show it off at school... in say... 10 mins :) |
| 23:17:15 | Bagder | hehe |
| 23:17:17 | XavierGr | and more jealous with you, that you own all targets and you made the port for Hxxx iriver series... |
| 23:17:18 | LinusN | dream on :-) |
| 23:17:28 | XavierGr | haha |
| 23:17:51 | aliask | Hahaha. I've been following the port for a while now (before it was on the H100s) and this is really big news. Thanks so much for all your work. |
| 23:18:01 | petur | any cygwin user know what to do with cc1.exe failing with 'The procedure entry point _impure_ptr could not be located in ...'? |
| 23:18:46 | Bagder | ah, a commit |
| 23:19:03 | Bagder | LinusN: I guess a h300 boot build makes sense too now? |
| 23:19:24 | * | linuxstb_ can't read the time... |
| 23:19:43 | _FireFly_ | argh sf.net is damn slow |
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| 23:20:20 | elinenbe | LinusN: safe for testing? |
| 23:20:50 | Bagder | the build table is becoming wiiiiide |
| 23:20:55 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: the patch should be updated on tracker |
| 23:21:04 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: ok is updated |
| 23:21:14 | Cassandra | Just had to correct my clock from being half an hour out. |
| 23:21:15 | Cassandra | Get a better ISP. |
| 23:21:15 | Cassandra | *blink* Erm, OK. |
| 23:21:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Cassandra |
| 23:21:16 | Cassandra | A leak with a time machine! |
| 23:21:16 | Cassandra | The Amazing Adventures of TIME MOLE in the 21st Century! |
| 23:21:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 23:21:17 | Cassandra | Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood tonight. |
| 23:21:28 | _FireFly_ | *g* |
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| 23:22:32 | LinusN | elinenbe: nah, the usb mode doesn't work |
| 23:22:42 | LinusN | Bagder: yes |
| 23:22:53 | Bagder | I've added it just now, just after the commit |
| 23:23:48 | XavierGr | LinusN: Just curious, and maybe silly, do you have playback? I guess no... it would be too good news to be true. |
| 23:24:02 | elinenbe | LinusN: does it have the iriver fallback like the H100 does? |
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| 23:25:10 | petur | nevermind... crosscompiler build started :) |
| 23:25:18 | LinusN | elinenbe: yes |
| 23:25:58 | Cassandra | How big are the user definable characters on the player? |
| 23:26:42 | Creatine | petur: check your PM. |
| 23:26:51 | Bagder | aren't they 8 x 5? or was it 8x6? |
| 23:26:59 | amiconn | 7 x 5 |
| 23:27:02 | Bagder | ah |
| 23:28:30 | elinenbe | LinusN: So, then there is no harm in loading it up? |
| 23:28:39 | Cassandra | Thanks. |
| 23:30:14 | LinusN | elinenbe: well, it's feels brick-safe if that's what you mean |
| 23:30:31 | LinusN | XavierGr: no playback |
| 23:31:02 | petur | Creatine: nothing received (excuse me, this is all quite new to me) |
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| 23:31:18 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:31:18 | uski | hi |
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| 23:32:51 | _FireFly_ | Creatine petur did you register yourself by freenode and identified when connecting to the server??? |
| 23:33:10 | Creatine | petur: I'm talking about IRC :P, there should be a private message for you from me |
| 23:33:43 | Creatine | I just connected, changed my nick because it was in use, and came here. |
| 23:33:47 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:33:47 | * | Creatine np: with - effects [00:51m/1032Kbps/44KHz] |
| 23:34:26 | Creatine | is there a problem? |
| 23:34:46 | _FireFly_ | priv messages are block for non registered users |
| 23:34:51 | _FireFly_ | to avoid spam |
| 23:34:59 | _FireFly_ | on the freenode irc servers |
| 23:35:12 | Creatine | oh. |
| 23:35:17 | petur | Creatine: sorry busy, back later - will look at it |
| 23:35:20 | Creatine | well, thank you for informing me |
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| 23:38:33 | Bagder | oh |
| 23:38:41 | Bagder | image too small |
| 23:38:48 | Bagder | hmmm |
| 23:38:58 | * | Bagder points to the build table |
| 23:39:17 | Bagder | I guess I'll cut off "iriver" from them |
| 23:39:23 | Bagder | anyone objects? |
| 23:39:45 | _FireFly_ | from me no |
| 23:39:48 | XavierGr | from where? |
| 23:39:50 | LinusN | do that |
| 23:40:24 | _FireFly_ | XavierGr: to cut of the irver string of the build table |
| 23:40:26 | Bagder | dpme |
| 23:40:27 | Bagder | done |
| 23:40:30 | XavierGr | ah |
| 23:40:36 | XavierGr | yes just saw |
| 23:40:43 | XavierGr | iriver will be mad hehe... |
| 23:40:50 | XavierGr | but who cares. |
| 23:41:01 | Bagder | the other names are all just model names |
| 23:41:55 | XavierGr | wow the H300 sim is working! |
| 23:41:58 | XavierGr | neat |
| 23:42:05 | amiconn | There's a space in front - intentionally? |
| 23:42:13 | Bagder | no, I just fixed it |
| 23:43:19 | amiconn | H300 and H300 - Sim - WIn will soon turn green :) |
| 23:43:29 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:43:49 | Bagder | green we like |
| 23:44:14 | XavierGr | what stupid design is this? Who told them to write "multi-codec jukebox" on the side of the screen? |
| 23:44:29 | XavierGr | it looks odd... |
| 23:44:32 | Bagder | I did |
| 23:44:34 | Bagder | sorry |
| 23:44:37 | Bagder | :-O |
| 23:44:41 | XavierGr | hey |
| 23:44:46 | XavierGr | no I mean on the sim |
| 23:44:53 | XavierGr | on the unit it self |
| 23:44:54 | LinusN | i *knew* it was a silly person |
| 23:45:05 | Bagder | the sim uses a pic of the actual unit, afaik |
| 23:45:06 | XavierGr | iriver designed this no? |
| 23:45:14 | XavierGr | yes that's what I am saying |
| 23:45:39 | XavierGr | iriver designed it. The company is to blame for that side screen string |
| 23:45:52 | Cassandra | Right, I've plonked out some suggested guidelines for submitting WPSen to the patch tracker on the dev list. Comments welcome. |
| 23:45:55 | Bagder | ok, I admit I lied it wasn't me ;-) |
| 23:46:06 | Cassandra | Now I'll have another go at firefly's patch. |
| 23:46:23 | * | t0mas goes to bed :) |
| 23:46:31 | | Quit t0mas (" good night!") |
| 23:46:32 | XavierGr | night t0mas. |
| 23:46:40 | Cassandra | (I'm so lazy, I want the patch submitters to do all the work for me.) |
| 23:46:52 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: it should work or i'm very blind for my mistakes;) |
| 23:47:06 | Cassandra | If it works, I will commit it. |
| 23:47:40 | Cassandra | And then EVERYTHING will break! |
| 23:47:52 | amiconn | wah! |
| 23:47:53 | XavierGr | yay |
| 23:47:57 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: give me cvs write access i will do it after i setup a cross-compileer for the other targets and tested at least if it will build on all targets |
| 23:48:02 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 23:48:17 | XavierGr | preciousss write access...! |
| 23:48:21 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 23:49:39 | _FireFly_ | i know but how should i do it as cassandra said without write access ?? ;) |
| 23:49:56 | XavierGr | indeed |
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| 23:51:30 | Simtech | !list |
| 23:51:39 | _FireFly_ | ?? |
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| 23:52:40 | XavierGr | what was that all about? |
| 23:52:48 | aliask | Checking for bots I think. |
| 23:53:03 | aliask | !list is a command used by a lot of file serving bots |
| 23:53:36 | Cassandra | firefly: You should be able to set up a cross compiler without write access to CVS. |
| 23:54:05 | amiconn | Cassandra: You mixed up character width and height for player. It should be 14x55, not 10x77 |
| 23:54:24 | Mordov_ | patch-tracker in the wps-widget could some one direct me to this ?:) |
| 23:54:31 | Cassandra | Oops. |
| 23:54:33 | Cassandra | Thanks. |
| 23:55:07 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: hmm then i has missunderstood what do you meant with your sentence "(I'm so lazy, I want the patch submitters to do all the work for me.)" |
| 23:55:10 | * | Bagder narrowed the title images of the build table |
| 23:55:14 | Cassandra | firefly: Syntax error at line 258 of gwps.h - something odd about the struct I can't spot. |
| 23:55:21 | Cassandra | structs make my head hurt. |
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| 23:55:51 | Mordov_ | think I found it.. was looking for 10 min postest sentence and found it..... |
| 23:55:55 | _FireFly_ | argh |
| 23:55:57 | Cassandra | _FireFly_, I was talking about people submitting WPS files. |
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| 23:56:36 | Bagder | Cassandra: I think your guidelines for WPS submissions sound great |
| 23:56:50 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: unsigned char wps_progress_pat[8]; |
| 23:57:09 | Cassandra | Get rid of the initialisation then? |
| 23:57:15 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 23:57:28 | _FireFly_ | had forgotten to delete it |
| 23:57:49 | LinusN | Bagder: not to draw a nice picture in the build table by introducing compile errors :-) |
| 23:57:57 | LinusN | s/not/now/ |
| 23:58:06 | _FireFly_ | i think i should setup additional cross-compilers to get rid of these type of failures |
| 23:58:26 | San | would it be hard to add a password system to the iriver ports? Like when the iriver boots, and if you get the P/W wrong 3 times, it turns of |
| 23:58:47 | Cassandra | I think so too. I've hit another one in gwps.c |
| 23:58:56 | _FireFly_ | line ?? |
| 23:59:00 | LinusN | San: a nice way to brick a player |
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