| 00:02:12 | preglow | linuxstb_: you think we'll ever need iram in the bootloader? |
| 00:03:00 | LinusN | hardeep: i just added the wps module to the commit mailing list |
| 00:03:25 | preglow | linuxstb_: right, we already use iram |
| 00:03:28 | linuxstb_ | preglow: The bootload is all in iram |
| 00:03:54 | LinusN | the h300 bootloader has to use dram as well |
| 00:04:02 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Why do you ask that? |
| 00:04:04 | LinusN | since the lcd frame buffer is so big |
| 00:04:06 | preglow | linuxstb_: just wondering so i wont bother copying iram for bootloaders, but that actually makes no sense, so... |
| 00:04:46 | | Quit petur (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client") |
| 00:04:50 | | Quit Philip_0729 ("Night all") |
| 00:04:52 | linuxstb_ | The crt0.S code that is there already works perfectly (I hope) for the bootloader. It uses boot.lds instead of app.lds |
| 00:05:15 | Cassandra | You know, we should add a "When will x be done?" link to the Rockbox front page. |
| 00:05:23 | | Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 00:05:35 | Cassandra | Except it still wouldn't stop anyone asking, would it? |
| 00:05:48 | Creatine | of course it would. |
| 00:06:01 | * | Creatine shall speak no more. |
| 00:07:23 | _FireFly_ | good night everybody |
| 00:07:32 | | Join webguest70 [0] (n=ca3421eb@labb.contactor.se) |
| 00:07:35 | TiMiD | good night _FireFly_ |
| 00:07:38 | | Quit paugh ("Leaving") |
| 00:07:43 | | Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") |
| 00:08:06 | TiMiD | what about making a separate page for wps commits ? (if it's possible) |
| 00:08:18 | TiMiD | since it's not related directly to the code |
| 00:08:55 | Bagder | it's related to development |
| 00:09:04 | | Quit Genre9mp3 () |
| 00:09:23 | | Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc158.b.pppool.de) |
| 00:09:39 | preglow | is 'mailbox' actually a term that's used a lot when it comes to inter-processor communication? |
| 00:09:50 | Bagder | preglow: yes |
| 00:10:09 | TiMiD | it's related to developpment yes, but it "pollutes" the normal log |
| 00:10:19 | TiMiD | since wps doesn't add features |
| 00:10:28 | TiMiD | it's more difficult ot check for important changes |
| 00:10:36 | preglow | TiMiD: if you're really interested in that, you're subscribted to the cvs list anyway |
| 00:10:40 | Bagder | read the mails |
| 00:10:58 | preglow | Bagder: how do they work? nothing out of the ordinary? |
| 00:11:31 | Bagder | preglow: I don't recall that closely, I just remember the term and I believe they're used in windows |
| 00:11:34 | | Quit webguest61 ("CGI:IRC") |
| 00:12:12 | TiMiD | all code related commits are not in mailing list |
| 00:12:17 | TiMiD | that's the problem |
| 00:12:27 | Bagder | which aren't? |
| 00:12:38 | preglow | all i've ever seen have been |
| 00:13:03 | | Join joshn [0] (n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:13:08 | TiMiD | at least, could it be possible to make the first page's "Recent CVS activity" bigger ? |
| 00:13:23 | XavierGr | probably he means the dev list which isn't related to the commits |
| 00:13:37 | Bagder | TiMiD: http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 00:13:39 | TiMiD | yes |
| 00:13:50 | Bagder | the commit list is not the dev list |
| 00:14:17 | Bagder | the commit list gets all CVS commits by mail |
| 00:14:21 | TiMiD | I didn't knew there was such a list hehe |
| 00:14:21 | XavierGr | of course. It is another list |
| 00:14:30 | ghode|afk | Bagder: could you add that link to the main page under the main commits? like the old news link? |
| 00:14:33 | linuxstb_ | Is there still a rockbox-announce list? |
| 00:14:44 | LinusN | i think we buried it |
| 00:14:59 | Bagder | its at 6 feet now |
| 00:15:17 | linuxstb_ | Someone on a forum asked how to keep informed of releases, and I was about to point him to that list, but couldn't find it... |
| 00:15:21 | Bagder | ghode|afk: I'll do that |
| 00:15:28 | | Quit Inferno ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") |
| 00:15:35 | ghode|afk | thanks badger |
| 00:15:41 | webguest70 | warning total newbie here, just felt it necessary to come on here and congratulate Linus on the h300 successes. |
| 00:15:53 | LinusN | thx |
| 00:15:55 | webguest70 | kudos to you, from Australia. |
| 00:16:03 | * | ashridah lets loose the noobisharks |
| 00:16:08 | LinusN | g'day mate |
| 00:16:10 | webguest70 | aaargggh... |
| 00:16:14 | webguest70 | ta. |
| 00:16:15 | preglow | haha |
| 00:16:24 | preglow | commence with the stereotypes! |
| 00:16:28 | | Quit BirdFish () |
| 00:16:29 | ashridah | webguest70: watching the cricket? |
| 00:16:43 | webguest70 | yes, I have a coffee in my hand, not a fosters. |
| 00:16:51 | preglow | fosters sucks |
| 00:16:59 | ashridah | fosters definently sucks |
| 00:17:09 | webguest70 | i am a VB man in terms of beer. or corona. |
| 00:17:10 | preglow | tastes like budweiser |
| 00:17:11 | ashridah | much prefer belgian beer |
| 00:17:13 | preglow | which again tastes nothing |
| 00:17:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you want Australian stereotypes you should see the "Outback Steakhouse" chain of restaurants. |
| 00:17:19 | * | Paul_The_Nerd shudders |
| 00:17:19 | preglow | belgian beer rocks |
| 00:17:21 | | Join len0x [0] (i=user@du213-130-142-62.as15444.net) |
| 00:17:23 | webguest70 | :-) |
| 00:17:33 | * | preglow wants a bitter |
| 00:18:05 | XavierGr | hi len0x |
| 00:18:10 | webguest70 | anyway, i am not a coder but if christy wants a hand with updating the manual for the h300 line, i am a word processing legend |
| 00:18:17 | len0x | hey :) |
| 00:18:37 | preglow | Cassandra: which still reminds me, anything ever happened to the latex conversion plans? |
| 00:18:49 | webguest70 | if i say so myself. |
| 00:18:53 | Bagder | we can use legends! ;-) |
| 00:18:53 | XavierGr | I dind't had the time to look on the radio yet. I am finishing a battery benchmark plugin right noe. |
| 00:19:05 | len0x | no problem |
| 00:19:56 | webguest70 | just converting all my 7000 tracks from WMA 64 to OGG quality 0.2. (yeah I know, but i prefer quantity over quality) |
| 00:20:00 | len0x | I added auto scan option, that has to be taked into accoutn by your path |
| 00:20:04 | len0x | patch |
| 00:20:41 | preglow | webguest70: sounds like those files will sound... special... |
| 00:20:54 | preglow | wma 64 already sounds bad |
| 00:20:59 | preglow | at least the one i have does |
| 00:21:22 | webguest70 | they sound alright through my monitor speakers, acid test is on the h320 with koss plug phones, later today. |
| 00:21:23 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK len0x |
| 00:21:23 | len0x | XavierGr: probably as auto scan and save into a new FMR file |
| 00:21:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest70: I predict that you will cringe. |
| 00:22:05 | webguest70 | well i can't face re-ripping them all to ogg.... |
| 00:22:12 | Cassandra | preglow: There are still plans. I did a trial run with some automatic conversion software and results were not good. |
| 00:22:15 | XavierGr | what exactly autoscan does? |
| 00:22:30 | preglow | Cassandra: i can imagine, yes, it's probably going to need to be a manual job |
| 00:22:30 | Cassandra | Essentially I think I'd have to redo nearly all of the formatting. |
| 00:22:31 | len0x | scans all freq for presets |
| 00:22:34 | preglow | Cassandra: a time-consuming one at that |
| 00:22:40 | XavierGr | search for all good reception stations? |
| 00:22:43 | Cassandra | *nod* Yes. |
| 00:22:46 | len0x | yes |
| 00:23:01 | preglow | i do latex, so i guess i could help out if you sort it out one day |
| 00:23:38 | Bagder | len0x: the rwps in fact should have its own <rwps> section in WPSLIST |
| 00:23:47 | Cassandra | Wow - autoscan is cool. |
| 00:23:57 | XavierGr | len0x: So whenever a uesr autoscans; What do you want the program to do? Automatically save the list? If yes on another name or the overwrite the previous list? |
| 00:24:14 | Bagder | hm, or should it? |
| 00:24:17 | LinusN | who's in favour of removing the "%" from the volume wps tag? |
| 00:24:19 | len0x | yes it overwrites default list |
| 00:24:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I went through and ripped a bunch of my CDs to lossless compressions (FLAC) and then burned those files onto DVD(as data), so that in the future I have high quality sources that I can transcode to lossy without having to retag or rerip, and since several CDs fit onto one DVD, it doesn't take up but a single CD folder. |
| 00:24:32 | dpassen1 | LinusN: me |
| 00:24:39 | Cassandra | Linus: I suppose it can always be added by hand. |
| 00:24:43 | dpassen1 | exactly |
| 00:24:44 | LinusN | yes |
| 00:24:51 | Cassandra | For consistency we ought to do it with battery too. |
| 00:24:56 | len0x | Bagder: its too late I laready commited first RPWS :) |
| 00:24:59 | XavierGr | len0x: But that's bad IMHO. That ways the user will lose its previous list. |
| 00:25:13 | Cassandra | And update any of our current wpsen that use it at the same time. |
| 00:25:22 | Bagder | len0x: I know, but thus the .pl patch wasn't needed |
| 00:25:24 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 00:25:24 | len0x | XavierGr: that is when your patch will come in handy :) |
| 00:25:37 | preglow | len0x: man, what's up with the colours |
| 00:25:54 | len0x | cut&paste :) |
| 00:25:59 | webguest70 | paul the nerd: even that sounds too hard. no doubt I will change my mind when I *listen* to it this arvo |
| 00:26:07 | preglow | i get black text on black background here, kind of hard to read, heh |
| 00:26:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 00:26:15 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:26:15 | * | Bagder ignores colors |
| 00:26:18 | Cassandra | You know, directory cache is so cool (and should be a battery saver too) |
| 00:26:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just took the step in advance, rather than finding myself wishing I had later. |
| 00:26:20 | preglow | i can't remember how :/ |
| 00:26:26 | XavierGr | len0x: I will think about it tomorrow, and get back to you. |
| 00:26:30 | preglow | Cassandra: agreed there, i can't live without it anymore |
| 00:26:51 | preglow | LinusN: btw, was the h3x0 120mhz crash a temperature issue or a bug? |
| 00:26:54 | webguest70 | wish I had though of that. oh how i used to laugh at people who said WMA was a closed format. Sigh. |
| 00:27:07 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 00:27:07 | len0x | XavierGr: ok |
| 00:27:07 | LinusN | preglow: probably not temp |
| 00:30:00 | Cassandra | Right, I'm off to bed. Night all. |
| 00:30:11 | XavierGr | night |
| 00:30:12 | preglow | night |
| 00:30:25 | | Quit Cassandra ("Leaving") |
| 00:32:58 | Moos | I just noticed in my mail box that somes commits showed in commits logs aren't (e.g len0x commits...) |
| 00:33:30 | LinusN | Moos: spam filter? |
| 00:33:40 | Moos | nope |
| 00:33:50 | Moos | let me check in case |
| 00:34:01 | TiMiD | I have a problem with get_button() |
| 00:34:09 | TiMiD | when I do button = button_get(true); |
| 00:34:11 | Moos | Linus: nope |
| 00:34:35 | TiMiD | after a button has been pressed (and intepreted), it tells me the same button was pressed |
| 00:34:52 | TiMiD | any way to clear the keypress buffer or something like this ? |
| 00:34:57 | LinusN | TiMiD: release event? |
| 00:35:11 | Moos | (Linus: there are few builds apered in logs and not in both the CVS table and commits mails) |
| 00:35:34 | LinusN | Moos: yes, the server was acting up for some reason |
| 00:35:46 | Moos | mmk |
| 00:36:27 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 00:36:38 | | Part webguest70 |
| 00:36:48 | TiMiD | something like this I belive |
| 00:37:08 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 00:38:06 | TiMiD | for example when I press select |
| 00:38:43 | TiMiD | raw button is 8100 and button & BUTTON_REL is 8000 so it's related to release I believe |
| 00:39:18 | LinusN | so where's the problem? |
| 00:39:34 | | Join webguest70 [0] (n=ca3421eb@labb.contactor.se) |
| 00:40:06 | | Quit webguest70 (Client Quit) |
| 00:40:13 | TiMiD | hmmm I think Ican handle it then |
| 00:40:42 | | Quit Guest70021 () |
| 00:43:59 | linuxstb_ | An interesting ipod hack: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=33495&st=0&p=293011&#entry293011 |
| 00:44:15 | linuxstb_ | It apparently makes the apple firmware display the CPU clock frequency in the status bar. |
| 00:45:41 | XavierGr | can someone please delete the user AlexSpy form the wiki? It is my self but I have already made another account with my full real name |
| 00:45:55 | XavierGr | AlexSpy sounds so goofy, and anyway is now useless. |
| 00:46:05 | preglow | linuxstb_: cool, now if only i had some tracks on my player |
| 00:46:09 | XavierGr | or is there a way to remove this my self? |
| 00:46:16 | preglow | linuxstb_: you know of any linux programs that can upload to an ipod? |
| 00:46:58 | | Quit ender` (" "The Japanese make comics about everything from ninja to samurai to superheroes to magical girls to ordinary high school lif) |
| 00:47:28 | linuxstb_ | I've heard of "gnupod", but have never used it. |
| 00:48:31 | preglow | i'll just ask the ipl people to be sure |
| 00:49:59 | preglow | seems they concur |
| 00:53:07 | | Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:53:51 | ashridah | preglow: amarok seems to be able to as well |
| 00:57:07 | preglow | ashridah: don't use kde |
| 00:58:48 | | Part len0x |
| 00:59:44 | ashridah | you said any |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:32 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:00:42 | ashridah | the thing that annoys me is that it only supports ipods |
| 01:00:56 | preglow | hrmph |
| 01:00:59 | ashridah | nothing like syncing with an iriver player, so far as i can see |
| 01:01:10 | preglow | doesn't seem like gnupod works too well here |
| 01:01:57 | | Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 01:02:36 | linuxstb | preglow: I tried that _Show_Speed hack, and it doesn't seem to work on my ipod. You don't need music on your player to test if it works. |
| 01:05:59 | preglow | linuxstb: then it doesn't work here either |
| 01:06:36 | preglow | i assume you didn't use the caps you do here? |
| 01:07:12 | linuxstb | I tried both with and without |
| 01:07:18 | preglow | but nah |
| 01:07:25 | preglow | doesn't work here either, then |
| 01:07:37 | linuxstb | I search the ilounge.com forums, and the people there refer to _Show_Speed (with capitals) |
| 01:08:37 | pinkutank | is the dircache in todays build yet, or bleedin edge? |
| 01:08:51 | linuxstb | Apparently the earlier ipods had a fixed CPU frequency - that's how Apple managed to double the battery time with the new models. |
| 01:09:00 | preglow | bah |
| 01:09:01 | LinusN | the dir cache has been there for months i believe |
| 01:09:02 | preglow | perl error when i run mktunes |
| 01:10:55 | preglow | the scrolling related corruption has at least vanished now |
| 01:10:56 | preglow | hooray |
| 01:11:25 | | Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") |
| 01:11:33 | preglow | oki, oki |
| 01:11:47 | preglow | let's see how far rockbox will boot without functioning interrupts |
| 01:11:50 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes, amiconn tidied up the lcd-16bit.c driver. |
| 01:12:14 | preglow | there's really not much to be done in crt0.S, it seems |
| 01:12:21 | preglow | since our memory is already set up for us by the apple bootloader |
| 01:13:30 | preglow | perhaps we need to set up some cache |
| 01:13:37 | | Join webguest66 [0] (n=c01f6a22@labb.contactor.se) |
| 01:14:51 | | Join yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) |
| 01:14:51 | RotAtoR | amiconn: I see you've updated the bejeweled graphics for the archos, thanks |
| 01:15:03 | RotAtoR | I had been meaning to do that myself but haven't had much free time lately |
| 01:15:09 | preglow | linuxstb: any reason why the "get high part of execution address" thing is outside the BOOTLOADER ifdef? |
| 01:15:23 | Mordov_ | is teh remote to the h-120 suposed to work with out patching now? |
| 01:15:29 | preglow | Mordov_: sure |
| 01:15:29 | RotAtoR | I actually have a few other small changes and bug fixes in queue, but I was waiting to find time to update the plugin for the h3xx series |
| 01:15:41 | Mordov_ | hmm mine dont.... |
| 01:15:48 | preglow | Mordov_: well, it should |
| 01:16:04 | preglow | Mordov_: todays build does directory viewer, wps and menus just fine for me |
| 01:16:30 | Mordov_ | fo I have to do something? |
| 01:16:39 | Mordov_ | 051117right? |
| 01:16:43 | preglow | Mordov_: no, shouldn't have to |
| 01:16:45 | pinkutank | if dircache has been around for months, why now ?"<Cassandra> You know, directory cache is so cool (and should be a battery saver too)" |
| 01:16:56 | preglow | pinkutank: because SHE hasn't been around for months ;) |
| 01:17:09 | pinkutank | oh :) |
| 01:17:26 | pinkutank | we discussed dircache and wps for about 2 hours earlier on |
| 01:17:29 | RotAtoR | Mordov_: you need a bleeding edge build, you probably downloaded a daily build |
| 01:17:30 | pinkutank | thats why I thought so |
| 01:17:43 | Mordov_ | ah ok :D |
| 01:17:47 | preglow | RotAtoR: nah, dirview has been working for weeks |
| 01:17:52 | Mordov_ | take me to the bleading edge :D |
| 01:17:54 | preglow | he should at least get that |
| 01:17:57 | RotAtoR | but not rwps |
| 01:18:00 | preglow | sure no |
| 01:18:06 | preglow | but i thought he meant it didn't work at all |
| 01:18:07 | preglow | my bad |
| 01:18:10 | linuxstb | preglow: A mistake I think. |
| 01:18:11 | Mordov_ | I see stuff on my display |
| 01:18:25 | Mordov_ | I can't skip back and I cant wiew songs |
| 01:18:31 | preglow | linuxstb: and btw, the high part of the exec address is chipset dependent, so we can probably hard code it |
| 01:18:37 | | Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC") |
| 01:18:45 | preglow | linuxstb: following our current trend and all |
| 01:18:54 | Creatine | Mordov: Curious, what is it you're actually doing? |
| 01:19:12 | Mordov_ | doing? |
| 01:19:17 | pinkutank | ermm where was the dircache setting |
| 01:19:23 | Mordov_ | when what where ? |
| 01:19:44 | preglow | pinkutank: general settings -> system -> disk |
| 01:19:51 | Creatine | you said "I see stuff on my display" and "I can't skip back and I can't view songs" |
| 01:20:10 | Creatine | Do you have an H1xx or...? |
| 01:20:14 | Creatine | I'm just curious. |
| 01:20:16 | Mordov_ | yaoo |
| 01:20:16 | | Join ze__ [0] (i=ze@ca-dstreet-cuda1-c6a-130.snbrca.adelphia.net) |
| 01:20:19 | Mordov_ | yapp |
| 01:20:23 | Creatine | ok |
| 01:20:25 | Mordov_ | H-120 |
| 01:20:29 | Mordov_ | I can brows |
| 01:20:36 | Mordov_ | see the threes |
| 01:20:42 | | Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 01:20:49 | | Nick ze__ is now known as ze (i=ze@ca-dstreet-cuda1-c6a-130.snbrca.adelphia.net) |
| 01:20:51 | Mordov_ | I only have the daily build |
| 01:21:05 | Mordov_ | I can't skip back in the menus... |
| 01:21:38 | Mordov_ | er I can skip back with stopp but that stops the player :P |
| 01:21:58 | markun | linuxstb, preglow: any idea how to switch an ARM processor to big-endian mode? |
| 01:22:28 | TiMiD | Mordov_: what is the exact problem ? |
| 01:22:29 | preglow | markun: the setend instruction |
| 01:22:31 | linuxstb | The SETEND instruction |
| 01:22:44 | markun | thanks |
| 01:22:47 | markun | both :) |
| 01:23:17 | preglow | linuxstb: as in "setend le" or "setend be", i believe |
| 01:23:33 | linuxstb | Yep. That's what my "quick reference card" says :) |
| 01:23:33 | XavierGr | TiMiD: I think that it might be good to enable some options for the remote. |
| 01:23:48 | preglow | linuxstb: got that too, eh |
| 01:23:53 | XavierGr | E.g scroll times e.t.c |
| 01:24:03 | XavierGr | or at least make them the same as the main unit |
| 01:24:13 | XavierGr | currently the user has no ability to change them. |
| 01:24:32 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 01:24:42 | markun | Can't find it in the pdf's, but maybe my viewer's search is broken. |
| 01:24:48 | pinkutank | what do you guys keep anti skip buffer at |
| 01:25:48 | TiMiD | XavierGr: I will take a look to see if I can easily do that (applying the main screen settings to the remote) |
| 01:26:21 | XavierGr | I remember that that it was very easy to add the options independetnly |
| 01:26:24 | TiMiD | or I can add another menu ... |
| 01:26:30 | preglow | markun: page three, lower half |
| 01:26:35 | preglow | markun: what're you working on? |
| 01:26:38 | XavierGr | yes that's what I had done. |
| 01:26:59 | XavierGr | Currently the scroll text is too fast to read |
| 01:27:03 | markun | Nothing, just reading arm documentation |
| 01:27:05 | TiMiD | but another menu would code size increase |
| 01:27:11 | TiMiD | and I neeeddd unicode :) |
| 01:27:21 | TiMiD | more than options XD |
| 01:27:22 | XavierGr | your call then |
| 01:27:22 | preglow | markun: right, you're pondering on going arm |
| 01:27:39 | TiMiD | well I commit smth and I look at the remote settings |
| 01:27:39 | markun | preglow: well, you were always raving about it ;) |
| 01:27:44 | XavierGr | but at least make it dependent from main unit |
| 01:29:21 | TiMiD | yep |
| 01:31:02 | Mordov_ | TiMiD: can you reed the priv? |
| 01:31:28 | Mordov_ | I meen can you see it :) |
| 01:31:45 | TiMiD | the private messages ? |
| 01:32:13 | pinkutank | why cant we fix the simulator so it show the wps as exactly on the player |
| 01:32:15 | TiMiD | I can yes, why ? |
| 01:32:33 | TiMiD | (if you want to send me pv, your nick must be registered) |
| 01:32:36 | Mordov_ | yapp,,, you where not answering so I wounderd if you had it turned of ;) |
| 01:32:46 | Mordov_ | thought I was :) |
| 01:32:53 | TiMiD | I receive nothing from you |
| 01:33:04 | Mordov_ | ah Im mordov_ now ;( |
| 01:33:09 | TiMiD | haha :) |
| 01:33:19 | | Nick Mordov_ is now known as mordov (n=Mordov@13.80-202-208.nextgentel.com) |
| 01:34:06 | mordov | got that? ;) |
| 01:41:05 | markun | preglow: what are you working on? |
| 01:42:32 | preglow | markun: startup code for ipod |
| 01:47:45 | | Part LinusN |
| 01:51:09 | _user_ | phaedrus961: hey, are you there? |
| 02:00 |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | NSplit | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit ghode|afk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit joshn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit _user_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit linuxstb (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit tvelocity (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit xmixahlx (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit mordov (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit wubbla (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit crash_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Igg-man (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Zagor (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit pill (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit yngwi (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Creatine (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit XavierGr (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit novimon (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit crwl (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit pabs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Bagder (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Paul_The_Nerd (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Maxime (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit solexx (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Vladoman (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Nilisco (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit dwihno (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit bluebrother^ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit CoCoLUS (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit Seed (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit elinenbe (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:02:36 | | Quit chiller (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NHeal | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | ze [0] (i=ze@ca-dstreet-cuda1-c6a-130.snbrca.adelphia.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | joshn [0] (n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Creatine [0] (n=Spiffy_V@c-67-164-200-164.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | _user_ [0] (n=c762142c@labb.contactor.se) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp12-adsl-80.ath.forthnet.gr) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c169125.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7E072.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | mordov [0] (n=Mordov@13.80-202-208.nextgentel.com) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | novimon [0] (n=novimon@a84-230-230-239.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | elinenbe [0] (i=elinenbe@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Seed [0] (i=ben@85-64-200-85.barak-online.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Zagor [0] (n=bjst@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Zagor) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | CoCoLUS [0] (n=coco@h081217139221.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-104-184.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | wubbla [0] (n=wubbla@adsl-233.226.166.194.arpa.as1901.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | chiller [0] (i=staale@kristoffersen.ws) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Igg-man [0] (n=kc0itq@rrcs-67-53-20-211.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | bluebrother^ [0] (n=c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@wrath.shellfx.net) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | crwl [0] (n=crawlie@karu.kekkola.jyu.fi) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | crash_ [0] (n=crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) |
| 02:03:35 | NJoin | pill [0] (i=pill@cybercrimi.nl) |
| 02:03:58 | Ctcp | Version from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect |
| 02:03:58 | *** | Server message 477: 'logbot #RockBox :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup' |
| 02:04:22 | | Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") |
| 02:09:55 | | Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") |
| 02:17:27 | | Join _Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@wrath.shellfx.net) |
| 02:22:16 | | Quit xmixahlx ("blah blah blah") |
| 02:26:33 | | Join lamed [0] (n=55407645@labb.contactor.se) |
| 02:26:41 | lamed | hello everyone. |
| 02:26:52 | pinkutank | erm what as that |
| 02:27:24 | pinkutank | does the repeat mode function on irever |
| 02:27:31 | pinkutank | or only in archos |
| 02:27:40 | pinkutank | I mean the wps with 4 conditions |
| 02:27:45 | lamed | I'm answering someone's question at the forum. anyone knows why isn't the announce mailing list on the rb mailing list page? (->or i will put it) |
| 02:28:03 | lamed | pinkutank - only archos 4 noew |
| 02:28:06 | lamed | now |
| 02:28:22 | lamed | ah wait |
| 02:28:24 | ashridah | lamed: someone said the announce mailing list is dead |
| 02:28:48 | ashridah | you'll need to hit the irc log to double check who said it |
| 02:28:48 | lamed | don't you mean the a-b repeat mode pinkutank? |
| 02:29:16 | pinkutank | I mean tha a-b repeat one shuffle repat all |
| 02:29:32 | pinkutank | well it doesnt matter much actually |
| 02:29:48 | pinkutank | I can put the conditional shuffle in a condition of a conditional repeat |
| 02:29:50 | pinkutank | :) |
| 02:29:50 | | Quit Nilisco (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 02:30:35 | lamed | you can repeat/shuffle by a long mode click. no a-b repeat yet. |
| 02:30:41 | pinkutank | I know |
| 02:30:51 | pinkutank | I'm just talking about the wps codes here |
| 02:31:03 | pinkutank | does %mm work for iriver |
| 02:31:08 | lamed | ashridah: seems like you'r right... latest mail was v2.3 |
| 02:34:38 | | Nick _Nilisco is now known as Nilisco (i=nilisco@wrath.shellfx.net) |
| 02:40:14 | | Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") |
| 02:45:44 | * | Creatine np: longfreestyle [06:54m/525Kbps/44KHz] |
| 02:46:07 | | Quit Nilisco (Remote closed the connection) |
| 02:46:49 | | Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@wrath.shellfx.net) |
| 02:48:04 | pinkutank | bah |
| 02:48:07 | pinkutank | school in 3 hours |
| 02:48:10 | pinkutank | I bettter sleep |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:32 | pinkutank | is anyone on |
| 03:00:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:10:07 | | Quit pinkutank () |
| 03:20:16 | | Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@c187124.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 03:27:04 | | Join Vlad0man [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7E243.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:27:45 | | Quit Vladoman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:31:34 | | Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:37:50 | | Quit dpassen1 () |
| 03:40:36 | | Quit _user_ ("CGI:IRC") |
| 03:55:18 | | Join webguest87 [0] (n=ac95cda2@labb.contactor.se) |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:39 | | Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:01:04 | | Part Creatine |
| 04:02:58 | | Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) |
| 04:14:51 | | Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-173.seh.ox.ac.uk) |
| 04:16:54 | | Part webguest87 |
| 04:20:09 | | Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 04:20:29 | RotAtoR | preglow: fyi, i've found a rather nasty issue with musepack playback i've documented here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1859.0 |
| 04:20:50 | | Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:23:53 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.75) |
| 04:25:22 | | Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 04:29:08 | | Join BirdFish [0] (n=bradbox8@64.108.5.134) |
| 04:29:26 | | Part BirdFish |
| 04:29:48 | | Quit Sandoaway (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:31:10 | | Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") |
| 04:37:44 | | Quit hardeep ("[BX] Get your free warez from ftp://127.0.0.1!") |
| 04:44:43 | | Join _Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@wrath.shellfx.net) |
| 04:46:07 | | Join samwichse [0] (n=samwichs@pool-71-240-217-107.alt.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:51:49 | | Quit Jungti1234 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:38 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:07:21 | | Quit Nilisco (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 05:07:26 | | Nick _Nilisco is now known as Nilisco (i=nilisco@wrath.shellfx.net) |
| 05:10:42 | | Quit joshn ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") |
| 05:16:38 | | Quit DJDD_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") |
| 05:18:06 | | Nick Vlad0man is now known as Vladoman (n=Vladoman@p54A7E243.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:19:54 | | Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 05:25:41 | | Join joshn [0] (n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:33:09 | | Join webguest58 [0] (n=5005a006@labb.contactor.se) |
| 05:34:23 | | Quit webguest58 (Client Quit) |
| 05:46:07 | | Join _user_ [0] (n=c762142c@labb.contactor.se) |
| 05:46:28 | _user_ | phaedrus961: are you here? |
| 05:48:14 | | Quit _user_ (Client Quit) |
| 05:51:48 | | Quit davidc__ (Nick collision from services.) |
| 05:52:34 | | Join davidc____ [0] (n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net) |
| 05:52:58 | | Join Coldtoast [0] (n=edan@ppp110-249.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) |
| 05:53:14 | Coldtoast | I just ahd an idea I think would be cool |
| 05:54:15 | Coldtoast | with the FM radio, when you name a preset, it'd be really cool if you could name a bitmap the same as the preset and the WPS for the FM radio displays the bitmap |
| 05:54:37 | Coldtoast | so when you change presets, it changes the bitmap. It'd be really cool to put station logos on there |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:15:36 | | Quit RotAtoR () |
| 07:23:08 | | Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-139-168-220-233.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 07:41:35 | | Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 08:00 |
| 08:09:56 | | Join webguest01 [0] (n=d565478f@labb.contactor.se) |
| 08:10:26 | | Quit Zak1392 () |
| 08:10:36 | webguest01 | hello guys ! something new about when rockbox will release for h3xx ? |
| 08:12:16 | B4gder | you mean when it'll _work_ on it |
| 08:12:26 | B4gder | we haven't even relased anything for the h1x0 yet |
| 08:12:42 | B4gder | but no, the news is only that there have been progress |
| 08:12:44 | webguest01 | yes sorry :D |
| 08:12:51 | webguest01 | when will it work on h3xx?;) |
| 08:13:22 | webguest01 | sorry you were quicker then me:D |
| 08:13:45 | webguest01 | but linus said in a couple of days?:D |
| 08:14:25 | B4gder | I can assure you that Linus makes no guarantees for time schedules until somone pays him for it |
| 08:14:37 | | Quit DJDD_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") |
| 08:14:56 | webguest01 | ;) |
| 08:14:59 | webguest01 | donate:D |
| 08:16:41 | B4gder | yes, that'll be the day when we can pay full-time sallary with donations |
| 08:17:39 | | Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:18:29 | webguest01 | must go tnx for the answers :D |
| 08:21:32 | | Quit webguest01 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 08:40:26 | ashridah | B4gder: do you actually get that much in the way of donations? |
| 08:40:57 | B4gder | I'm not up-to-date with how it has been recently |
| 08:41:12 | | Join Cassandra [0] (i=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) |
| 08:41:29 | B4gder | but it is in the thousands of USD |
| 08:41:57 | ashridah | that includes hardware? |
| 08:42:12 | B4gder | money only |
| 08:42:17 | B4gder | we don't get much hw |
| 08:42:30 | ashridah | ah |
| 08:42:37 | B4gder | we do buy quite a lot of hw though |
| 08:42:47 | B4gder | for the donated money |
| 08:43:18 | * | ashridah nods |
| 08:43:51 | ashridah | yeah, some digital analysis equipment doesn't come cheap. or does Linus get the chance to borrow stuff where he works? |
| 08:44:05 | B4gder | on and off |
| 08:44:36 | B4gder | as he/we are consultants, it depends on where he currently has an assignment |
| 08:44:57 | ashridah | aah, okay. |
| 08:45:15 | ashridah | indeed, some companies can get touchy about that |
| 08:45:15 | B4gder | but mostly we do things with our own equipment |
| 08:48:01 | | Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:48:15 | | Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-139-168-220-233.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 08:49:22 | Zak1392 | wazzup dudes? |
| 08:50:41 | * | ashridah blinks |
| 08:51:45 | * | Cassandra has just realised how powerful and flexible the themes concept is. |
| 08:52:00 | Cassandra | I mean there's nothing to stop you having an "in car" theme, for example. |
| 08:52:25 | B4gder | true |
| 08:53:43 | phaedrus961 | _user_: (if you read the logs) I have updated the unicode patch to the latest cvs |
| 08:53:56 | amiconn | mooning |
| 08:55:10 | * | Cassandra swears at VNC. Why has my backspace key stopped working? |
| 08:55:50 | | Quit Zak1392 () |
| 08:55:56 | _FireFly_ | good morning |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:40 | amiconn | One of yesterday's numerous changes bumped the binary size on the recorder by ~1.5KB. :-( |
| 09:00:42 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:01:02 | amiconn | I tend to blame the wps widget... |
| 09:01:14 | B4gder | and TiMiD's new stuff |
| 09:01:27 | B4gder | I'd suspect |
| 09:03:51 | amiconn | I doubt that. The whole yesno.c merely adds 356 bytes, and it saves some coder in other modules |
| 09:03:55 | B4gder | ok |
| 09:04:33 | Cassandra | Anyone else having problems with WPS formatting in the bleeding edge? |
| 09:04:41 | B4gder | lots of people seem to |
| 09:05:04 | B4gder | seeing the forum posts |
| 09:05:29 | Cassandra | *nod* Wonder if "fromdos" screwed over the wps files. |
| 09:06:36 | B4gder | or simply the new wps code |
| 09:06:52 | amiconn | Imho the current graphical wps method is messy. >200 files for just 8 wps'es |
| 09:07:10 | Cassandra | I'm inclined to agree. |
| 09:07:27 | Cassandra | Plus this whole business of being restricted to letters of the alphabet. |
| 09:07:47 | Cassandra | I like bagder's(?) idea of having one bmp and specifying offsets. |
| 09:07:56 | B4gder | that's amiconn's idea ;-) |
| 09:08:04 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra for this i had already a working version |
| 09:08:10 | Cassandra | I still like it. |
| 09:08:23 | _FireFly_ | somewhere on my hd :) |
| 09:08:40 | _FireFly_ | for combined bitmaps |
| 09:08:54 | Cassandra | Anyway - I've implemented themes support, but for some reason the "rockbox_default" theme doesn't reset the rwps. |
| 09:08:58 | amiconn | 200 files take > 6MB of space on a H140... |
| 09:09:21 | amiconn | ...regardless how tiny they are, because they need at least one cluster each |
| 09:10:57 | _FireFly_ | amiconn this afternoon i could rework my combined-bitmap support to the latest cvs and make a patch for testing |
| 09:12:01 | Cassandra | On the downside, it is considerably more effort for WPS developers. |
| 09:12:17 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 09:12:20 | Cassandra | I'm beginning to wonder if there's something to this theory of having WPS stored in ZIP files. |
| 09:12:22 | B4gder | unless we make a tool for it |
| 09:12:51 | B4gder | but of course that's not was good either |
| 09:12:55 | B4gder | as good |
| 09:13:51 | amiconn | I like it even less that these disk-cluttering wps'es are now part of cvs and get packaged in the .zip |
| 09:15:16 | ashridah | hm. you could whack them into a no-compression zip archive or something... |
| 09:15:31 | _FireFly_ | like tar |
| 09:15:36 | amiconn | Imho all this is optional stuff, and e.g. voice files are optional as well, and they are not bundled... |
| 09:15:58 | Cassandra | Maybe we should think about producing 2 installers. |
| 09:16:15 | Cassandra | I still say our default WPS ought to be graphical at least on iRiver. |
| 09:16:25 | ashridah | _FireFly_: better off using something people can do themselves |
| 09:16:29 | amiconn | I nver use graphical wps'es, so all this stuff just wastes space on my hd. |
| 09:16:31 | Cassandra | (Or rather the WPS the user is presented with when they turn on Rockbox.) |
| 09:16:45 | Cassandra | for the first time |
| 09:17:07 | Cassandra | Plain text is such a turn off for some people. |
| 09:18:00 | | Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) |
| 09:18:03 | amiconn | I wonder why |
| 09:18:25 | Cassandra | I suppose it has that whole retro 1980s feel about it. |
| 09:18:59 | thegeek_ | I completely agree Cassandra |
| 09:19:24 | thegeek_ | engineer2 is great imho, and having a default wps that looks nice is important |
| 09:19:34 | Cassandra | Personally I care more about features, but the more users we attract to Rockbox, the more programmers we attract. |
| 09:19:44 | thegeek_ | indeed |
| 09:19:45 | B4gder | _FireFly_: is there a point in having the gui_syncwps struct in the new wps code? |
| 09:19:48 | thegeek_ | and.. why not? |
| 09:19:54 | B4gder | it only has one single member |
| 09:21:13 | B4gder | if not, I'll remove it and gain a level of indirection in the code |
| 09:21:44 | _FireFly_ | B4gder do it |
| 09:22:46 | _FireFly_ | B4gder is the code align to 80 cols now better with my missing_headers patch ?? |
| 09:22:57 | _FireFly_ | oh Bagder i mean |
| 09:23:04 | B4gder | yeps |
| 09:23:08 | _FireFly_ | ok |
| 09:23:27 | _FireFly_ | good to hear :) |
| 09:23:47 | B4gder | I'm doing some other edits on top of your patch |
| 09:24:22 | _FireFly_ | ok |
| 09:25:33 | B4gder | for example I found 1) unused functions and 2) functions that should be static |
| 09:26:11 | _FireFly_ | oh yes there is a unused function left |
| 09:26:30 | B4gder | I found three |
| 09:26:37 | B4gder | so far |
| 09:27:26 | _FireFly_ | wow i must be blind to miss them |
| 09:28:33 | _FireFly_ | maybe do you mean the wps_stata_update* function ?? |
| 09:29:26 | B4gder | yes |
| 09:30:25 | | Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) |
| 09:32:46 | Cassandra | I think I'm going to commit this theme code and try to sort out any residual problems once WPS has been fixed. |
| 09:33:32 | Cassandra | Since I've also fixed a couple of buglets in wpsbuild.pl |
| 09:45:16 | | Join webguest70 [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:46:20 | | Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:47:12 | XavierGr | good morning all |
| 09:47:12 | | Quit webguest70 (Client Quit) |
| 09:47:19 | _FireFly_ | moin XavierGr |
| 09:47:36 | | Join webguest93 [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) |
| 09:50:36 | Cassandra | Hello |
| 09:51:13 | linuxstb | I've just received a patch for Shorten that gives it the prize for fastest codec - it runs with about 1%-3% boost with the CPU clocked at 22.5MHz. |
| 09:51:37 | Cassandra | Nice. |
| 09:51:42 | B4gder | wow |
| 09:51:58 | linuxstb | And that's without any EMAC magic from preglow. |
| 09:52:14 | linuxstb | So it could be faster if we cared about it. |
| 09:52:21 | ashridah | whoa |
| 09:52:57 | linuxstb | I'm not surprised - FLAC is more complicated than Shorten, and FLAC is only slightly slower than that. |
| 09:53:19 | linuxstb | So I would have expected Shorten to beat FLAC. |
| 09:53:42 | XavierGr | I wish we had that optimised lossy codecs... |
| 09:54:28 | linuxstb | The mathematics of lossless codecs is much simpler - it's all integer for a start. |
| 09:56:23 | XavierGr | linuxstb: yestrerday I finished with the battery benchmark plugin. I added a buffer string so that changes between HD accesses can be rendered in the log. |
| 09:56:24 | _FireFly_ | lossless codecs acts like winzip but for audio only |
| 09:56:51 | XavierGr | Also there is no battery waste from the plugin so I think it makes some accurate measurments |
| 09:57:24 | ashridah | _FireFly_: except that winzip uses a dictionary at the end, which a lossless codec probably shouldn't. |
| 09:57:35 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Sounds good. |
| 09:57:35 | XavierGr | I would like some commnets from a dev, if someone has the time to take a peek. |
| 09:57:46 | _FireFly_ | ashridah yep |
| 09:58:26 | linuxstb | ashridah: Yes, normally each frame is more or less standalone - i.e. it doesn't depend on anything else in the file. |
| 09:59:16 | XavierGr | oh just remembered: TiMiD, some of the settings for the remote must be saperate. |
| 09:59:33 | XavierGr | like backlight caption for example. |
| 09:59:41 | ashridah | linuxstb: that's the same for most codecs that support live streaming tho |
| 09:59:42 | XavierGr | or the status bar. |
| 09:59:48 | ashridah | (or at least, should be) |
| 09:59:54 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD should have the part for this from my unofficial remote-patch |
| 09:59:57 | XavierGr | these must be independent from the main unit. |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:34 | XavierGr | well yesterday he said that he prefered to make options dependable form the main unti |
| 10:00:50 | XavierGr | at least for the scroll options, which we mention |
| 10:01:10 | XavierGr | scroll is okay to be the same, but not all options IMHO |
| 10:01:22 | _FireFly_ | could be ihave only said that i have it not that he will use it |
| 10:01:54 | XavierGr | erm rephrase? |
| 10:02:04 | _FireFly_ | oh so bad |
| 10:02:47 | XavierGr | ah it needs commas |
| 10:02:47 | | Quit webguest93 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 10:03:24 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD got the relevant parts for the remote-settings from my unofficial remote-patch but i don't know how much he will use it |
| 10:03:55 | _FireFly_ | so better to understand ?? |
| 10:04:11 | XavierGr | that reminds me that when I tried the remote implementation my self, the settings part was the only thing that I got right ;p |
| 10:04:24 | _FireFly_ | :) |
| 10:04:43 | _FireFly_ | that was the easiest part :) |
| 10:04:54 | XavierGr | _FireFly_: I understood the first one by the time I added a comma after the "could be" |
| 10:05:24 | XavierGr | yes indeed the easiest and error proof. |
| 10:15:04 | | Quit Cassandra (Remote closed the connection) |
| 10:15:40 | | Join webguest68 [0] (n=3efe0020@labb.contactor.se) |
| 10:16:43 | webguest68 | a question about the .cfgs that come with the new wps files.... |
| 10:16:53 | webguest68 | are you supposed to move them? |
| 10:16:55 | webguest68 | Because you can't select them with the cfg browser from the wps directory |
| 10:19:38 | B4gder | in the bleeding edge they are or will be moved |
| 10:19:55 | webguest68 | okey dok - people are away - i'll check the logs later - thanks for the work folks |
| 10:20:08 | webguest68 | ahh - ta Badger |
| 10:20:12 | B4gder | they will be known as "themes" |
| 10:20:26 | webguest68 | so "work in progress" that's cool |
| 10:20:36 | B4gder | everything is work in progress! |
| 10:20:56 | webguest68 | yep - but you know what I mean.. ta |
| 10:21:01 | | Part webguest68 |
| 10:24:21 | | Join hd [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) |
| 10:27:27 | | Quit goa (Connection reset by peer) |
| 10:27:27 | | Nick hd is now known as goa (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) |
| 10:29:58 | | Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 10:30:53 | linuxstb | Am I right in thinking that code should never use the BUTTON_???? defines directly, but instead each module defines a set of key mappings (e.g. TREE_NEXT, WPS_EXIT) for each target? |
| 10:32:10 | LinusN | linuxstb: "never" is a harsh word ... :-) |
| 10:32:35 | LinusN | but yes, that's is the intention, i believe |
| 10:32:37 | linuxstb | I think it has to be never - e.g. the ipod has no off or stop button, which breaks tree.c |
| 10:33:05 | B4gder | yes, we need to use symbolic names and not the "raw" names of the actual keys |
| 10:34:19 | | Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-69.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 10:35:28 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.75) |
| 10:37:53 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 10:38:00 | markun | morning |
| 10:38:07 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 10:38:11 | linuxstb | So if I find any places (like tree.c) where the raw names are being used, it should be fine to replace them with symbolic names (assuming of course I don't change any key mappings for any targets). |
| 10:39:13 | Jungti1234 | USB 2.0 PCI cards that order arrived. :D |
| 10:45:28 | LinusN | linuxstb: yes |
| 10:48:18 | Jungti1234 | reboot |
| 10:48:18 | | Quit Jungti1234 ("Bye Bye~ http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300") |
| 10:49:55 | markun | LinusN: If I were to go ahead with a Gigabeat port, do you think it could be done without special hardware? |
| 10:50:29 | markun | The units can be tricked to run linux binaries by using the firmware update I think. |
| 10:53:53 | linuxstb | markun: Do you know if it's uclinux? |
| 10:54:02 | B4gder | I doubt that |
| 10:54:08 | B4gder | its an arm920t arch |
| 10:54:10 | B4gder | full mmu |
| 10:54:36 | linuxstb | So it's going to be hard to get full control of the hardware from Linux? |
| 10:54:58 | markun | normal kernel sources have support for the S3C2440 it seems |
| 10:55:14 | _FireFly_ | B4gder your changes to the wps-code breaks some targets |
| 10:55:38 | B4gder | only some? ;-) |
| 10:55:51 | LinusN | markun: you mean if we can make it boot rockbox with the builtin boot loader? |
| 10:56:23 | _FireFly_ | B4gder yepp only some ;) |
| 10:57:28 | markun | LinusN: that would also be nice, but I was only thinking of running some test code to figure out how all the hardware (LCD for example) works |
| 10:57:31 | _FireFly_ | B4gder e.g. keys_locked is also used un statusbar |
| 10:57:36 | _FireFly_ | s/un/in |
| 10:57:55 | _FireFly_ | so to make this static isn't so goof |
| 10:59:13 | linuxstb | Does the GPL mean that a hardware device using the Linux kernel must allow a user to update that kernel with a version they've compiled themselves? |
| 10:59:39 | linuxstb | Or does it just give them the source, with no means to actually use it? |
| 10:59:49 | B4gder | a good question |
| 11:00 |
| 11:00:03 | B4gder | I'm not sure |
| 11:00:10 | _FireFly_ | B4gder your changes in gwps-common.h will increase the code size |
| 11:00:19 | B4gder | ? |
| 11:00:33 | B4gder | why? |
| 11:00:38 | B4gder | its a header |
| 11:00:45 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:01:48 | _FireFly_ | because this header is also included screens.h |
| 11:01:57 | B4gder | and therefore... ? |
| 11:02:32 | _FireFly_ | maybe i'm wrong but i had noticed i slight code-size decrease after i had changed it to nit include gwps.h in gwps-common.h |
| 11:03:31 | LinusN | i don't see any reason why it would increase |
| 11:03:45 | B4gder | it would be very strange if it did |
| 11:03:57 | B4gder | or the header contained somethig it shouldn't |
| 11:05:25 | * | linuxstb wonders if gnu will ever redesign their website |
| 11:05:52 | LinusN | the ipodvol wps looks awful |
| 11:05:58 | B4gder | gnu.org just recently remade |
| 11:06:43 | linuxstb | Quote from the GPL: "The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it. For an executable work, complete source code means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to control compilation and installation of the executable." |
| 11:06:55 | linuxstb | Note the last part - "installation of the executable". |
| 11:07:41 | linuxstb | B4gder: So it has. I didn't go via the home page. |
| 11:08:48 | linuxstb | markun: Someone needs to request the kernel source from Toshiba and see what they provide. |
| 11:09:42 | markun | I just emailed Nick Smith (from our wiki) who works for Toshiba. I wonder if he could help us in any way when dealing with them. |
| 11:12:00 | markun | What should I tell Toshiba when I request the linux source, anything about rockbox? |
| 11:12:24 | B4gder | no |
| 11:12:42 | B4gder | tell them Linux is GPL and that you want the source please |
| 11:13:34 | | Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD4BB2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:14:15 | markun | I could contact their american research department maybe: http://www.toshiba.com/tari/contact.htm |
| 11:15:13 | linuxstb | markun: At the end of the user manual there is a page that mentions the GPL and gives a website address. On that website address is a "linux@toshiba" email address. That's probably the place to ask. |
| 11:15:25 | LinusN | the text in all the wps'es seem to have been shifted up one line |
| 11:16:08 | linuxstb | But IIUC correctly, Toshiba only needs to provide the source to people they have distributed the code to. But I guess that includes you if you downloaded the firmware update from their website. |
| 11:16:57 | | Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) |
| 11:16:58 | | Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD4BB2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:17:02 | B4gder | right, and perhaps markun owns a gigabeat. Its hard for them to tell... |
| 11:17:28 | linuxstb | Yes, the worse they can do is to ask you for proof that you own a gigabeat. |
| 11:17:34 | B4gder | true |
| 11:17:53 | linuxstb | But we shouldn't assume Toshiba will be uncooperative. |
| 11:18:07 | markun | We could always ask a Gigabeat owner to ask for the source.. |
| 11:18:26 | markun | Or buy me one ;) |
| 11:18:40 | linuxstb | markun: If I was you, I would ask for the source. If they come back and ask for proof you own a gigabeat, then get an owner to ask for the source. |
| 11:18:59 | linuxstb | Or do both. |
| 11:19:24 | markun | ok, I've send a short email |
| 11:20:33 | linuxstb | I think it's friday evening now in Japan - so bad timing for the email. |
| 11:20:54 | markun | I'll be away for the weekend anyway. |
| 11:21:30 | markun | Don't they work on saturday like in Korea? |
| 11:21:44 | linuxstb | I've no idea. |
| 11:23:10 | thegeek_ | hmm |
| 11:23:31 | thegeek_ | does rockbox now "ship" with a default wps for the h1xx target? |
| 11:23:40 | | Nick thegeek_ is now known as thegeek (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 11:24:11 | B4gder | it always had a default wps |
| 11:24:17 | thegeek | well |
| 11:24:18 | thegeek | ok |
| 11:24:29 | thegeek | has the default wps changed then? |
| 11:24:38 | B4gder | no |
| 11:24:54 | thegeek | ok |
| 11:24:56 | _FireFly_ | only a default remote-wps was added |
| 11:25:23 | thegeek | I think the default mainscreen wps should change too |
| 11:25:44 | thegeek | engineer2 is nice, or iAmp 1.5 |
| 11:25:54 | pill | i like zezayer |
| 11:26:01 | thegeek | hehe |
| 11:26:16 | thegeek | does not really matter all that much, just use something better as default |
| 11:26:27 | thegeek | the current default kinda sucks |
| 11:27:00 | pill | i agree it should be more up-to-date |
| 11:27:11 | pill | but it forces users to dig into rockbox |
| 11:27:18 | B4gder | I only use the default |
| 11:27:24 | pill | hence learning how the thing works |
| 11:27:36 | _FireFly_ | B4gder i will test this afternoon if there is realy a code-size-increase/-decrease when changing the gwps-common.h maybe i had changed something else too which was had decreased the code-size |
| 11:28:00 | _FireFly_ | s/was/ |
| 11:28:20 | pill | is there a way to make terminal 9 the default font for opening nfos? |
| 11:28:33 | B4gder | no |
| 11:28:46 | pill | k |
| 11:29:36 | thegeek | get damn nfo viewer |
| 11:29:54 | thegeek | http://filesharingdownloads.com/tools/DAMN_NFO_Viewer_v2.10.0031.RC3_Setup.exe |
| 11:30:47 | pill | oh |
| 11:30:51 | pill | i meant on rickbox |
| 11:30:54 | pill | rockbox* |
| 11:30:57 | thegeek | oh;) |
| 11:30:58 | thegeek | hehe |
| 11:30:59 | pill | i use damn ): |
| 11:30:59 | pill | :) |
| 11:31:03 | thegeek | :) |
| 11:33:59 | linuxstb | Are there any text-only WPSs in CVS yet? |
| 11:34:28 | pill | dont think so |
| 11:34:32 | pill | i made one |
| 11:34:46 | linuxstb | Does the build system assume there is always a subdirectory associated with a wps? |
| 11:36:07 | B4gder | yes |
| 11:36:26 | B4gder | but we can easily fix that |
| 11:42:05 | markun | B4gder: you once told me that you could change the sed code in the simulator makefile for perl. That would be nice because the FreeBSD sed doesn't work with the code. |
| 11:42:54 | B4gder | yes, we should do that |
| 11:42:57 | | Join modafroman [0] (n=subatomi@CPE-138-130-209-123.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 11:44:35 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.75) |
| 11:45:37 | linuxstb | I think that's the same problem I had when attempting to compile the X11 sims under Mac OS X as well. So if that's fixed, I'll have another go with Mac OS X. |
| 11:45:57 | modafroman | how close are we from getting rockbox on h3? |
| 11:47:01 | LinusN | about this close: −−−−-> <−−−−- |
| 11:47:10 | modafroman | what, 5 spaces? |
| 11:47:15 | modafroman | 1 space = what? |
| 11:47:16 | modafroman | :p |
| 11:47:19 | LinusN | more or less :-) |
| 11:47:32 | modafroman | so can i assume 1 space = 1 day? |
| 11:47:36 | modafroman | :p |
| 11:47:46 | LinusN | we can't tell, hence my silly answer |
| 11:47:50 | modafroman | ahh |
| 11:47:52 | modafroman | i see |
| 11:48:16 | | Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") |
| 11:54:14 | ^BeN^ | LinusN keep the good work on the h300 mf |
| 11:54:18 | ^BeN^ | keep on |
| 11:54:21 | ^BeN^ | =] |
| 11:54:26 | LinusN | will do... |
| 11:54:31 | ^BeN^ | =] |
| 11:55:40 | | Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-139-168-220-233.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 11:55:58 | markun | http://www.gigabeat.net/mobileav/audio/eula/index_e.htm |
| 11:56:47 | Zak1392 | any progress? |
| 11:57:15 | markun | I wonder which product model and firmware I should give them. Maybe F40 with version 2.02 |
| 12:00 |
| 12:02:50 | LinusN | gotta go, cu guys |
| 12:02:53 | | Part LinusN |
| 12:10:26 | Zak1392 | when do you guys think it's gonna be released? |
| 12:10:39 | Zak1392 | for h300 |
| 12:11:32 | Mode | "#rockbox +o B4gder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 12:11:36 | modafroman | <LinusN> about this close: −−−−-> <−−−−- |
| 12:11:58 | Topic | "Seriously, we DO NOT estimate release dates. You'll find out when it happens." by B4gder (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 12:12:10 | | Join mark111 [0] (n=Mark@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 12:12:40 | Zak1392 | i know, but lets just have a wild guess ;) |
| 12:12:50 | B4gder | tomorrow or next summer |
| 12:12:58 | B4gder | or somewhere in between |
| 12:13:54 | mark111 | it will be released by the next coming of jebus |
| 12:14:02 | Slasheri | Zak1392: and when the bootloader is released, it doesn't mean that the player would be fully functional with audio playback immediately after that :) |
| 12:14:20 | mark111 | but it COULD be |
| 12:14:22 | mark111 | maybe |
| 12:14:33 | mark111 | almost |
| 12:14:35 | mark111 | no? |
| 12:14:36 | Zak1392 | but i highly doubt that |
| 12:14:49 | | Join ripnetuk [0] (n=george@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 12:15:12 | mark111 | i thought the bootloader was checked into CVS this week allready? |
| 12:15:37 | B4gder | most of the bootloader has been checked for years |
| 12:15:44 | B4gder | checked in |
| 12:16:04 | B4gder | it doesn't mean it works for the h3x0 |
| 12:16:05 | Zak1392 | the bootloader is released within a few days right? |
| 12:16:24 | B4gder | I bet Linus regrets saying that |
| 12:16:31 | Zak1392 | why? |
| 12:16:33 | modafroman | yep |
| 12:16:44 | B4gder | because this reminds us all why we should never ever state a date |
| 12:16:49 | linuxstb | B4gder: It's OK as long as he says that every day. |
| 12:17:37 | B4gder | and it just adds presuare on him and looooads of people coming here asking exactly this |
| 12:17:46 | | Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 12:18:14 | | Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
| 12:18:18 | ripnetuk | n/quit |
| 12:18:26 | | Quit ripnetuk (Client Quit) |
| 12:18:39 | | Join ripnetuk [0] (n=george@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 12:22:02 | Zak1392 | jeez, i wish i could help Linus but I don't know jack about this kind of stuff |
| 12:30:24 | * | mark111 would like to state that he is a happy h140 user and only intends to upgrade when the ipod video 60GB has full rockbox support, provided its still available then |
| 12:30:45 | * | modafroman donates to rockbox\ |
| 12:31:20 | preglow | what |
| 12:31:30 | preglow | my ipod nano rockbox build fails with some iram errors |
| 12:34:56 | linuxstb | preglow: I'm just doing a clean rebuild now... |
| 12:35:26 | linuxstb | Oops, I can't. I'm half-way through working on the buttons and it doesn't build. |
| 12:36:14 | linuxstb | What's the error? |
| 12:38:40 | preglow | /usr/local/arm-gcc/lib/gcc/arm-elf/3.4.4/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: address 0x400183f8 of /home/thomj/rockbox-devel/ibuild/apps/codecs/vorbis.elf section .iram is not within region PLUGIN_IRAM |
| 12:39:01 | preglow | obviously, the build server doesn't get that |
| 12:40:26 | | Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 12:40:34 | | Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 12:41:51 | | Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) |
| 12:42:09 | linuxstb | Sorry about that - lost the connection. |
| 12:42:51 | linuxstb | The problem is that you are trying to use more than 96KB of IRAM - 96KB is 0x18000 |
| 12:43:17 | novimon | linuxstb, how can I enable the crossfeed dsp? |
| 12:43:21 | * | modafroman donates to rockbox |
| 12:43:40 | linuxstb | novimon: crossfeed dsp is nothing to do with me, but try the sound settings menu |
| 12:43:41 | novimon | I cant manage to get the folder skip work, either |
| 12:43:51 | novimon | linuxstb, its not there |
| 12:44:21 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you change the app.lds file at all? |
| 12:44:26 | novimon | and why is my build dated 2008 :) |
| 12:45:04 | linuxstb | novimon: I think that explains your problem. You are running a very old version of rockbox. |
| 12:46:12 | novimon | but i did update it yesterday. if the files are locked or something? |
| 12:46:20 | preglow | linuxstb: yes, i figured that was the problem, but no, didn't change it |
| 12:46:24 | _FireFly_ | novimon playback-menu |
| 12:46:31 | preglow | i get that error all the time when optimising cdoecs |
| 12:47:31 | novimon | 051031-2008 is the version of my build |
| 12:48:08 | ashridah | novimon: it's under 'playback' not 'sound' |
| 12:48:22 | novimon | cant find it :( |
| 12:48:27 | novimon | whats it called? |
| 12:48:31 | _FireFly_ | crossfeed |
| 12:48:31 | linuxstb | preglow: Maybe the code that's in IRAM compiles to more bytes on the arm than the coldfire - hence the problem. |
| 12:48:40 | ashridah | 'crossfeed' just under 'replaygain' |
| 12:48:51 | preglow | linuxstb: i haven't changed it, that's the problem |
| 12:48:53 | _FireFly_ | novimon you haven't the latest version your is from 31.10.2005 |
| 12:49:03 | preglow | it's got to be something i did, since it doesn't happen in the dailies |
| 12:49:07 | preglow | so i'll just look around |
| 12:49:26 | ripnetuk | hey guys, thanks for all the new remote wps stuff - looking really cool |
| 12:49:46 | ripnetuk | another feature fixed from iRiver firmware - display artist and album and song on remote :) |
| 12:50:27 | novimon | oki |
| 12:50:35 | ripnetuk | are we planning independent fornts for remote and main? i cannot think of a way to fill up all the gaops on the huge scfreen on the iRiver, except to use a larger font :) |
| 12:50:48 | novimon | ill update it when i get home, ill check back later |
| 12:51:12 | linuxstb | preglow: Maybe looking at apps/codecs/vorbis.map in your build directory will give you a clue. |
| 12:51:35 | | Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") |
| 12:52:11 | | Quit Zak1392 () |
| 12:52:40 | preglow | i remember now |
| 12:52:50 | preglow | i've got a couple of iram changes in tremor |
| 12:52:53 | preglow | and like you said |
| 12:52:58 | preglow | code is larger in general for arm |
| 12:53:40 | preglow | i wonder what to do with the extra iram on nanos.. |
| 12:53:44 | preglow | and videos |
| 12:54:07 | markun | preglow: Is rockbox also using thumb instructions, or isn't that useful? |
| 12:54:28 | ashridah | is it sad that i want to use rockbox over a pc-based player because it has better seamless playback than anything else i've got currently? :) |
| 12:54:31 | preglow | markun: no, it's not (yet) |
| 12:54:39 | preglow | markun: depends on the bus width |
| 12:54:48 | linuxstb | Maybe we need to introduce different priorities for iram usage - something like ICODE2_ATTR, ICONST2_ATTR etc for targets with more IRAM. |
| 12:54:49 | preglow | markun: apple never uses thumb, so i'm willing to bet it's 32 bits |
| 12:55:11 | preglow | linuxstb: yes, that'll work if we don't get too many different levels of iram use |
| 12:55:15 | linuxstb | I'm sure the PP5020 publicity mentions a 32-bit bus. |
| 12:55:16 | preglow | iram capacity, i mean |
| 12:55:17 | markun | I thought it was just a way to reduce the code size |
| 12:55:33 | preglow | markun: well, yeah, but a 32 bit fetch doesn't cost any extra with a 32 bit bus |
| 12:55:52 | preglow | markun: the entire point is that you need to do two fetches to get an instruction if you've got a 16 bit bus |
| 12:56:15 | linuxstb | Maybe it could be useful for ICODE |
| 12:56:29 | markun | ok, I just thought it would get 2 thumb instructions at a time |
| 12:57:12 | preglow | markun: it might, we could do some tests of course |
| 12:57:20 | preglow | btw, we've got an armv4 core |
| 12:57:32 | preglow | so lots of the instructions you see on the quick ref card we don't have |
| 12:57:48 | preglow | luckily, we've still got smlal |
| 12:57:48 | linuxstb | :( So what does the 7 in arm7tdmi mean? |
| 12:57:54 | preglow | linuxstb: no idea |
| 12:57:58 | | Nick DMJC is now known as DMJC-L (n=DMJC-L@60-240-222-122.tpgi.com.au) |
| 12:58:00 | linuxstb | They tricked me... |
| 12:58:03 | preglow | but i do wish we had the saturating instructions :/ |
| 12:58:09 | | Join Febs [0] (n=cfac7a51@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:58:22 | preglow | and all the extra snappy math instructions |
| 12:59:18 | | Join DMJC [0] (n=DMJC@60-240-222-122.tpgi.com.au) |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:47 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:01:33 | linuxstb | preglow: Almost all the instructions in the quick reference card have a "6" in the architecture column. Are you saying we don't have those? |
| 13:02:03 | preglow | indeed |
| 13:02:17 | | Quit uski (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 13:02:21 | preglow | nor the 5e ones |
| 13:04:24 | markun | I guess the Gigabeat CPU also can't use them: The ARM920T doc says: ARM9TDMI has a ARMv4T architecture |
| 13:06:35 | | Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 13:06:36 | | Join webguest97 [0] (n=51e9194e@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:06:42 | preglow | nah, i guess those additional instructions add quite a lot to the silicon |
| 13:06:46 | preglow | and they're not strictly essential |
| 13:06:51 | | Quit webguest97 (Client Quit) |
| 13:06:54 | linuxstb | preglow: So what do we have? Anything with "4" or less and the "M" ? |
| 13:07:06 | preglow | linuxstb: and 3, 2, etc |
| 13:07:14 | | Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) |
| 13:07:25 | preglow | i do wish we had 'clz', though |
| 13:07:34 | preglow | used in a ton of codecs |
| 13:10:02 | linuxstb | So we don't have SETEND if the quick reference card is right. |
| 13:10:03 | markun | I'm confused, why is the arm7tdmi called ARM7?: http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/families/ARM7Family.html |
| 13:11:53 | markun | ok, I get it now, but still confusing. |
| 13:12:30 | preglow | linuxstb: nope, appears we don't, you probably set endianness via a control register or something |
| 13:13:20 | preglow | markun: why is it called arm7? |
| 13:14:11 | ripnetuk | acorn risk machine |
| 13:14:16 | ripnetuk | risc |
| 13:14:25 | markun | The numbering for the _core_ is different from the _architecture_ |
| 13:14:48 | markun | http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/architecture.html vs http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/families.html |
| 13:14:52 | linuxstb | So SMLAL is a 32*32->64bit multiply and accumulate? |
| 13:15:08 | preglow | linuxstb: yes |
| 13:15:22 | preglow | linuxstb: makes our life very easy |
| 13:15:56 | linuxstb | Yes, very nice for FLAC etc. |
| 13:16:16 | preglow | oh yes, and musepack |
| 13:16:17 | preglow | and tremor |
| 13:16:19 | preglow | and libmad |
| 13:16:31 | preglow | and just about everything, i'd imagine |
| 13:16:47 | preglow | with a bit of luck, the compiler can even use it itself |
| 13:19:09 | linuxstb | How many lpc orders can we unroll on the ARM for FLAC? |
| 13:19:14 | linuxstb | Is it the same as coldfire? |
| 13:19:22 | preglow | no, less, i'd imagine |
| 13:19:36 | preglow | perhaps 7 or something |
| 13:22:20 | linuxstb | But would the general-purpose loop be any faster? It's hardly seems worth the effort for order 7 and below. |
| 13:22:42 | linuxstb | But then again, I always use flac -8 to compress. |
| 13:24:34 | preglow | it all depends on how clever the compiler is |
| 13:24:47 | preglow | i'm willing to bet i can make it faster anywya |
| 13:24:49 | preglow | anyway, yes |
| 13:25:50 | linuxstb | Do you own any books on the arm? |
| 13:25:53 | preglow | nope |
| 13:26:33 | preglow | someone ipl people said this one's nice: |
| 13:26:34 | preglow | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1558608745/103-9133230-5607805?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance |
| 13:29:51 | | Quit davidc____ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 13:41:33 | | Quit Jungti1234 ("Bye Bye~ http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300") |
| 13:47:58 | | Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 13:49:51 | | Join ep0ch| [0] (n=ep0ch|@84.12.156.149) |
| 13:58:13 | | Part ep0ch| |
| 14:00 |
| 14:08:12 | | Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:08:16 | | Join Cassandra [0] (i=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) |
| 14:08:23 | Cassandra | Hello |
| 14:08:37 | Cassandra | I'm about to commit a fix for the missing rwps issue. |
| 14:08:51 | Cassandra | Just testing everything still works. |
| 14:12:00 | ripnetuk | what was the missing rwps issue ??? |
| 14:13:14 | Cassandra | Problem with the theme generation scripts. I fixed a bug by introducing another one. |
| 14:14:14 | ripnetuk | aha |
| 14:15:00 | ripnetuk | anyone have a clever way to switch between my 2 favorate ways of listening to music? 1. Random all tracks (using a all.m3u playlist in root) and listening to a specific album (directory) in order? can this be done with .cfg files? |
| 14:15:32 | ripnetuk | atm i just browse to root and select all.m3u - would be nice to do it in less keystrokes. Obviously playing a specific track is just a case of finding it in the treeview |
| 14:16:40 | ripnetuk | aha turningoff folow playlist helps |
| 14:17:02 | linuxstb | ripnetuk: I was thinking about the same thing last night - I normally listen to individual albums from beginning to end, but would sometimes like to listen to random tracks. The ipod has a useful "shuffle songs" option in the root of the main menu that will shuffle the entire contents of the player. |
| 14:17:17 | Cassandra | I've always thought there ought to be a simple way to do that. |
| 14:17:22 | ripnetuk | yeah, thats the one thing the iRiver firmware has over rockbox |
| 14:17:32 | Cassandra | It's not as easy to implement as it sounds. |
| 14:17:33 | _FireFly_ | due this slower startup afaik |
| 14:17:47 | ripnetuk | yes, the iriver scans the disk on startup... takes forever |
| 14:17:58 | ripnetuk | far smarter to have a all.m3u that is done when syncing music onto device |
| 14:18:11 | ripnetuk | can a .cfg file specify a playlist? |
| 14:18:14 | linuxstb | But we have dircache... |
| 14:18:32 | Cassandra | liunxstb: true. We could use that now. |
| 14:18:42 | Cassandra | ripnetuk, nope. |
| 14:19:01 | ripnetuk | one way (assuming all.m3u has all files in) is a inverse follow playlist, ie, when you browse the tree, it goes to the correct location in the playlist, instead of building a new playlist. |
| 14:19:09 | ripnetuk | that way the 'all' playlist would always be loaded |
| 14:19:48 | ripnetuk | i guess we would have to assume that all.m3u is sorted tho otherwise we would have to scan the whole thing (is that too slow?) |
| 14:19:53 | Cassandra | As linuxstb has just pointed out, it already is sort of. It's just a matter of feeding the dircache into a playlist sensibly. |
| 14:20:05 | ripnetuk | ? |
| 14:20:46 | Cassandra | dircache is a fairly new feature. It stores the contents of the hard disk in memory. |
| 14:20:50 | ripnetuk | but only directories already encountered i assume |
| 14:21:01 | ripnetuk | otherwise we have the iriver delay dont we? |
| 14:21:03 | linuxstb | No - it does a background scan of the whole disk on startup. |
| 14:21:08 | ripnetuk | wow! |
| 14:21:10 | | Quit ashridah ("Leaving") |
| 14:21:17 | Cassandra | It's pretty darn cool. |
| 14:21:19 | ripnetuk | smart |
| 14:22:11 | | Join Guest70021 [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 14:22:22 | linuxstb | But it's an option (users can turn it off), and I'm not sure if it's available on the Archos devices due to their limited RAM. |
| 14:22:25 | ripnetuk | i guess what im really after is a top level menu option (or key shortcut) to load a playlist and engage shuffle. AFAICT this would require the ability for a .cfg to load a playlist (it can already do shuffle no:?) and a way to kick off .cfg files in a shortcut way |
| 14:24:11 | ripnetuk | in fact, thinking about it, what I really want is to not lose the playlist when I select a specific track... i think the inverse follow playlist oiption ois what i want |
| 14:25:22 | _FireFly_ | or changing the track with the playlist viewer |
| 14:26:29 | Cassandra | linuxstb, we could put a "shuffle all" option on the context menu conditionally on whether you had dircache available. |
| 14:26:58 | _FireFly_ | ripnetuk you can change the track with the playlist-viewer |
| 14:27:17 | Cassandra | ripnetuk, themes are a way to kick of .cfg files in a shortcut way. |
| 14:27:20 | _FireFly_ | while playing a playlist |
| 14:27:29 | Cassandra | Not yet. |
| 14:27:29 | ripnetuk | firefly - yes, but unless its organised as a tree its very slow to find the rioght track in ~4000 |
| 14:27:51 | _FireFly_ | ok thats a good point :) |
| 14:27:52 | ripnetuk | themes sounds good then... are we planning on a top level (ie few keypresses) way of activating? |
| 14:28:10 | ripnetuk | maybe the answer is for the playlist viewr to behave more like treeview, |
| 14:28:44 | ripnetuk | ie, assuming the playlist is sorted in dir order (ie, all files in a/b/c are next to each other) it displays it as if its a dir structure |
| 14:29:19 | ripnetuk | AND you can select playlist viewer to come up instead of tree view |
| 14:29:25 | Cassandra | ripnetuk, theoretically the ID3 database is designed to solve that problem. |
| 14:29:26 | ripnetuk | or as a virtual directory in root? |
| 14:29:35 | Cassandra | Unfortunately it's still pretty buggy afailk. |
| 14:29:57 | ripnetuk | so the ID3 database is tied to playlists, not directory content? |
| 14:30:30 | Cassandra | Well, it's a database of all the ID3 info from your MP3 player. |
| 14:30:47 | _FireFly_ | i have just triggered a bug |
| 14:31:00 | ripnetuk | but my goal is for the playlist to still be active after manually selecting a song - i have my mp3s organised in a way that i can quickly find a track anyway |
| 14:31:00 | Cassandra | Browseable by Artist, Album, Song Title. |
| 14:31:19 | ripnetuk | yeah, like the ipod. boo! i prefer to have the dirs organised nice |
| 14:31:33 | _FireFly_ | while playing a song i was in filetree(short press select) and hit the stop button playback stops and resume didn't worked correctly after that |
| 14:31:36 | Cassandra | Me too oddly. |
| 14:32:20 | _FireFly_ | wps was shown also the track infos but playback didn't started |
| 14:32:43 | ripnetuk | on a totally different note... can we access the context menu from remote? |
| 14:33:01 | _FireFly_ | which context menu ?? |
| 14:33:08 | ripnetuk | my bad |
| 14:33:20 | ripnetuk | i way trying in wps, not treeview ;-O |
| 14:33:48 | _FireFly_ | the context menu can you also open in wps with long press navi/menu |
| 14:35:22 | amiconn | ripnetuk: You can always use the playlist 'queue next' feature |
| 14:35:40 | ripnetuk | ami - oh yes, that sounds like an answer |
| 14:35:50 | * | amiconn doesn't get why we need a thousand different ways to activate the same feature |
| 14:36:16 | elinenbe | amiconn: Can I follow the directions on patching the H100 firmware with the H300 firmware, to get it up and running on the H300? |
| 14:36:47 | amiconn | The tagdb browser has a rather ugly problem though, as it currently mimics the plain dir browser... |
| 14:37:08 | amiconn | ...so it adds all tracks in the virtual 'directory' if you select one |
| 14:37:45 | amiconn | This is (1) probably not what you want, at least in the artist or song view. It might be what you want in the album view |
| 14:38:09 | amiconn | (2) It tends to take almost forever, especially if max files in dir is set high |
| 14:38:31 | | Quit _FireFly_ ("Did anyone see my lost carrier?") |
| 14:39:05 | amiconn | (3) Moreover, it doesn't really add *all* tracks in the virtual dir; it stops after max_files_in_dir tracks |
| 14:40:11 | amiconn | Imho the solution would be that playing a file in the tagdb 'track' or 'artist' view should add that very track only |
| 14:40:47 | ripnetuk | usually when I play a track, i expect the rest of the album to play after it |
| 14:41:30 | ripnetuk | not all tracks by that artist, or genre etc |
| 14:44:08 | ripnetuk | regardless of if i choose by album, artist etc |
| 14:44:15 | ripnetuk | albums kind of naturally hang together |
| 14:44:52 | ripnetuk | if playing a track from treeview did a insert as next into playlist for the entire album, i would be happy :) |
| 14:45:13 | ripnetuk | and of course jumped to the selected track |
| 14:47:40 | Cassandra | Hmm. Anyone think of a good reason why I shouldn't stick the theme browser on the main menu? |
| 14:47:57 | | Quit Guest70021 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 14:48:14 | ripnetuk | So what is a theme then? is it a fiel that references a .cfg and a .wps in one go? |
| 14:48:46 | Cassandra | It's actually just a subset of a .cfg file (you can reference a wps and rwps from within a cfg file). |
| 14:49:37 | ripnetuk | so why are we having a new type of thingie then <−−- dumb question |
| 14:51:04 | preglow | elinenbe: depends on which directions you're talking about, i doubt fwpatcher will work |
| 14:54:44 | amiconn | elinenbe: There is no bootloader yet, but when there is, it should work the same way |
| 14:54:57 | Cassandra | ripnet - it's not really a new type of thing. It's just an easy way to swap several things around quickly. |
| 14:55:06 | | Quit modafroman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 14:55:46 | Cassandra | Calling it themes makes it easier for the end user to grasp what it does. They don't have to care about how it's implemented. |
| 14:58:00 | | Join Mxm`Pas`Bien [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) |
| 14:59:02 | ripnetuk | i see |
| 14:59:06 | ripnetuk | bbl |
| 15:00 |
| 15:00:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:07:42 | | Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A4519C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:09:31 | elinenbe | amiconn: thanks. |
| 15:14:48 | Zagor | hejsan |
| 15:14:58 | Zagor | sorry, wrong window :-) |
| 15:15:28 | | Quit Maxime (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:15:59 | | Quit mark111 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:16:09 | Cassandra | _FireFly_, what's this isfile parameter in wps_data_load for? |
| 15:17:28 | Cassandra | Or I coudl just read the comments. |
| 15:17:34 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 15:17:45 | | Join tucoz [0] (n=81b17b04@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:18:26 | | Part tucoz |
| 15:19:46 | | Join webguest05 [0] (n=56822d26@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:20:19 | webguest05 | 'ola |
| 15:20:36 | | Quit webguest05 (Client Quit) |
| 15:25:01 | | Quit DMJC-L (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:25:18 | | Quit DMJC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:33:02 | | Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:33:34 | | Join mashalla [0] (i=mashalla@p5498C666.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:35:24 | | Join webguest25 [0] (n=548cd919@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:36:40 | webguest25 | hello |
| 15:37:53 | | Join webguest57 [0] (n=548cd919@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:37:53 | | Quit webguest25 (Client Quit) |
| 15:38:13 | webguest57 | hello |
| 15:38:17 | | Quit webguest57 (Client Quit) |
| 15:38:24 | | Join webguest57 [0] (n=548cd919@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:39:50 | | Quit webguest57 (Client Quit) |
| 15:42:42 | | Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 15:45:06 | | Join Febs [0] (n=40be24f0@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:45:20 | | Join DMJC [0] (n=DMJC@220-245-163-220-sa-nt-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 15:48:16 | | Join whatboutbob [0] (n=cbd65f76@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:48:24 | | Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") |
| 15:48:56 | | Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:49:15 | whatboutbob | evening folks. |
| 15:49:32 | Cassandra | Hello |
| 15:49:36 | whatboutbob | anyone reported playback issues with the bleeding edge build? |
| 15:50:02 | Cassandra | Not that I've heard. |
| 15:50:26 | whatboutbob | a few of my flacs aren't playing. they were playing on the previous build i had (nov 12) |
| 15:50:53 | | Join Mark__ [0] (n=Mark@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:53:06 | Cassandra | I know nothing about codecs - can't help you. Sorry. |
| 15:53:21 | | Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 15:53:44 | whatboutbob | no worries. i'm rolling back anyways. just thought i might give the heads-up. |
| 15:54:09 | Cassandra | Probably best to report it in the bugtracker. |
| 15:54:34 | whatboutbob | k. will do. |
| 15:54:52 | Cassandra | Thanks |
| 15:55:47 | whatboutbob | oh. maybe not " Do not report bugs for unreleased code (i.e. Iriver at the moment). Use the mailing list or IRC to discuss such development." |
| 15:57:44 | whatboutbob | well, if anyone's reading the logs (and cares), the files are encoded using dbpoweramp, level 8. |
| 15:59:37 | whatboutbob | when i attempt to play them, the 'please wait' pops up on the screen then the file appears on the wps with the correct details, then it jumps back to a root wps, then back into the file tree. |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:03 | whatboutbob | no sound produced. |
| 16:01:10 | linuxstb | whatboutbob: FLAC files from dbpoweramp should be fine now - there were some problems a few weeks ago, but I thought I had fixed them all. |
| 16:01:39 | linuxstb | Can you give me an example file that crashes with the current version of rockbox? |
| 16:02:28 | linuxstb | Do you know which version of Rockbox the files last played correctly with? |
| 16:02:51 | whatboutbob | linuxstb: sure thing. ysi ok? they were working fine on the build i was using from nov 12. |
| 16:04:02 | linuxstb | Let me do some tests first - I have a few dbpoweramp example files already. Maybe a recent change has broken flac playback. |
| 16:04:16 | whatboutbob | other flacs work fine. |
| 16:04:49 | whatboutbob | pretty sure the working ones weren't converted with dbpoweramp tho |
| 16:05:07 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: maybe a metadata-parsing bug ?? |
| 16:05:48 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: Sounds like it - but what changes in the last 6 days could have broken it? Apparently the 12 November build is working. |
| 16:06:17 | linuxstb | whatboutbob: Send me the file, but I have no idea what ysi is. Can you upload it to a web server? |
| 16:06:53 | linuxstb | Ah, yousendit.com ? |
| 16:07:35 | whatboutbob | correct. |
| 16:08:01 | linuxstb | Maybe it's a WPS bug - which WPS are you using? |
| 16:08:10 | whatboutbob | default |
| 16:08:17 | linuxstb | OK. |
| 16:08:27 | linuxstb | Yes, yousendit.com is perfect. |
| 16:08:56 | * | whatboutbob hopes he's not missing anything obvious |
| 16:10:14 | _FireFly_ | argh i have deleted my rockbox-source dir with my combined-bitmap support .... ok then must i rewrite it |
| 16:11:45 | whatboutbob | linuxstb: ysi isn't happy (0.5kb/sec). don't have axs to a web server on this puter. can i email it to you or something? |
| 16:11:58 | whatboutbob | smallest file is 2.3meg |
| 16:14:26 | whatboutbob | ...or if you've got AIM you can get it from whatboutbob79 |
| 16:14:42 | linuxstb | whatboutbob: I think I've found the problem. FLAC files with id3v2 tags don't play any more. |
| 16:16:20 | | Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") |
| 16:17:15 | linuxstb | So don't worry about the example file - I'm 99.9% sure that is causing your problem as well. |
| 16:18:50 | whatboutbob | linuxstb: hokay. to be honest, i'm not sure how the files are tagged (was my first time using dbpoweramp and i was in a hurry) |
| 16:19:48 | _FireFly_ | if someone interrests i have updated my wps-sb-tag-patch on tracker |
| 16:22:24 | | Quit NicoFR () |
| 16:23:45 | | Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@hornved.ii.uib.no) |
| 16:24:35 | tucoz | Hi, how can I see what the changes at the cvs are, without checking out the newer files. Like a status or something like that |
| 16:24:48 | tucoz | i.e. cvs-server |
| 16:26:38 | | Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-173.seh.ox.ac.uk) |
| 16:28:26 | tucoz | Do I just check out the changes, and do cvs log <filename> for the patched files? |
| 16:29:01 | | Join tidejp [0] (n=tidejp@eAc1Amv081.tky.mesh.ad.jp) |
| 16:29:36 | tidejp | Hi everyone, I'm just stopping by to say thanks for all efforts in porting the H300 series! |
| 16:31:04 | tidejp | disconnect |
| 16:31:23 | | Quit tidejp (Client Quit) |
| 16:31:38 | tucoz | nevermind, cvs log works fine |
| 16:32:30 | | Join uski [0] (n=uski@82.64.199.37) |
| 16:32:31 | | Part tucoz ("Leaving") |
| 16:33:47 | Cassandra | Right, with that commit, themes should finally be working properly. |
| 16:38:29 | linuxstb | I don't know if anyone's done this before, but I've just been doing a little experiment with how my H140's hard disk is organised, and quite like the effect. It completely changes the Rockbox experience without changing a line of code. |
| 16:38:43 | Cassandra | Hmmm? |
| 16:38:57 | linuxstb | Basically, I've cleaned out the root directory of my player and created directories with names related to actions rather than content. |
| 16:39:16 | Cassandra | Such as? |
| 16:39:28 | linuxstb | i.e. a "Browse Music" directory, a "Browse Data" directory, a "Games" directory, a "Restore Settings" directory. |
| 16:39:52 | linuxstb | e.g. inside Browse Music I have a directory called "Artists", then I have my usual collection of Artist/Album/Track files |
| 16:39:54 | Cassandra | Cute. |
| 16:40:21 | linuxstb | In "Browse Data" is all the rubbish I store on my player which Rockbox can't play. |
| 16:40:24 | elinenbe | linuxstb: you could create your OWN menu structure with .cfg files that just do one thing. |
| 16:41:01 | linuxstb | The "Restore Settings" directory can contain .cfg files with names such as "Defaults" or "Car Mode" |
| 16:41:04 | elinenbe | linuxstb: such as a folder called "Play Option" with cfg files in there "1 - Shuffle", "2 - Repeat", "3 - Shuffle, Rpeat" |
| 16:41:17 | linuxstb | elinenbe: Yes, this is exactly what I'm thinking. |
| 16:41:32 | linuxstb | It only works if you hide file extensions (i.e. set Show Files to supported) |
| 16:41:34 | | Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 16:41:36 | | Join Febs [0] (n=40be24f0@labb.contactor.se) |
| 16:42:19 | linuxstb | I've got another top-level directory called Games where I have copied the .rocks for the game plugins and renamed them to "title" case - i.e. "RockBlox", "Sliding Puzzle" |
| 16:43:08 | linuxstb | I'm planning to populate the "Browse Music" directory with lots of automatically created playlists based on the tags in the files. |
| 16:43:43 | linuxstb | I currently have "Browse Music/Artists/" which contains all the albums, I could have "Browse Music/Albums" which contains a single .m3u file for each album. |
| 16:43:52 | Cassandra | I deserve coffee - back in a bit. |
| 16:44:07 | mordov | linuxstb: what program do you use to male autoplaylists? |
| 16:44:16 | linuxstb | mordov: I haven't written it yet :) |
| 16:44:32 | | Quit DMJC ("Leaving") |
| 16:44:32 | mordov | :D send me a copy when you have ;) I'v been lookig for it :) |
| 16:45:40 | linuxstb | This creates the impression of a completely menu-driven Rockbox, with the advantage that everything is fully customisable - you just rename and move directories and folders to whereever you want them. |
| 16:46:50 | mordov | I't like I have it... only I can't move the /recotrings folder and do I need the build file on root?? |
| 16:47:24 | mordov | I would werry mutch suport a menupage on the start og rockbox.. |
| 16:47:53 | linuxstb | Create your own menu in the filesystem - that's what I've just done. |
| 16:48:52 | mordov | I have it like that :) and it works ok, I just wanted a menu saying brows files, brows musiv, start radio etc... |
| 16:49:22 | mordov | with that you could add a option on the quick menu to do brows by tag and brows by three mode |
| 16:49:48 | mordov | not music suported files tags... that is a tad to mutch ;) |
| 16:50:15 | amiconn | linuxstb: Automatic playlists could be created with searchbox/databox |
| 16:51:04 | linuxstb | What I want is a script to automatically generate a large number of playlists, and then arrange those in a directory hierarchy. |
| 16:51:29 | amiconn | I have an idea concerning searchbox btw. Today it always writes /search.m3u . It could write /<dir_of_rps_file>/<rps_file_name>.m3u instead |
| 16:52:02 | mordov | what is searchbox |
| 16:52:26 | mordov | I miss a file search engien on the player... |
| 16:53:21 | whatboutbob | gnight all. |
| 16:53:28 | amiconn | searchengine I mean. It's for searching the tag database |
| 16:53:29 | _FireFly_ | whatboutbob: night |
| 16:53:37 | | Part whatboutbob |
| 16:53:50 | mordov | ah ok :) |
| 16:54:13 | linuxstb | A feature that would be useful for my system would be to have a file called (for example) "FM Radio.menu", and selecting that file in the file browser would open the FM Radio screen. Similarly for most of the top-level menu items like "Sound Settings", "Recent Bookmarks" etc |
| 16:54:57 | amiconn | mordov: There is a file search plugin |
| 16:55:08 | mordov | named? |
| 16:56:33 | mordov | PluginDatabox Searchengine Frontend |
| 16:56:36 | mordov | this one? |
| 16:57:30 | amiconn | That's the databox/searchengine pair used for database queries |
| 16:57:38 | amiconn | File search is just named search |
| 16:58:14 | mordov | ok thanks |
| 16:58:45 | | Join dpassen1 [0] (n=8255ae5e@labb.contactor.se) |
| 16:59:41 | | Quit dpassen1 (Client Quit) |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:51 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:03:23 | preglow | linuxstb: why doesn't flac files with id3v2 tags work anymore? |
| 17:04:46 | linuxstb | preglow: I haven't looked at the problem yet. I'm sure it's something trivial. |
| 17:06:00 | | Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@hornved.ii.uib.no) |
| 17:06:27 | preglow | only thing i can think of is the change i did, but that worked after commiting |
| 17:06:32 | preglow | and it's a long time ago |
| 17:06:43 | * | tucoz awards linuxstb with todays 'most valuable tip'-award. |
| 17:09:13 | tucoz | I moved from a cluttered browsing experience to a nice and shiny, well organized with just a few mv's. Thanks |
| 17:10:07 | mordov | is it some way to move the recordins folder? and to boot from anywhere else that root? |
| 17:10:16 | mordov | that would make sutch browsing eaven bettr... |
| 17:11:21 | mordov | an I se the recylce biin windows makes to... anyway to get rid of hat? |
| 17:11:27 | preglow | how do those numerical assembler labels work? |
| 17:11:37 | preglow | bxx 1f for forward and bxx 1b for backwards? |
| 17:11:55 | tucoz | mordov, just delete it ;) |
| 17:12:02 | mordov | :) |
| 17:12:46 | tucoz | And by staying away from OSX or Windows, will help you stay out of things like that. |
| 17:13:34 | | Quit mordov ("www.CNLRacing.tk") |
| 17:14:08 | | Join mordov [0] (n=Mordov@13.80-202-208.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:16:02 | mordov | I sadly need windows to do everything.... I want to click my compu niot use it for practical stuff ;D |
| 17:16:24 | mordov | If I hade somethig seriuos to do on it it would have linux :) |
| 17:16:41 | tucoz | mordov, I think that you can disable the creation of a recycle bin, and the System Volume information folder in windows. |
| 17:17:05 | tucoz | I.e. for removable media. But, I am not sure how well it works. |
| 17:17:36 | mordov | I'm was thinking the same... can't find it but I know it's here somwhedre |
| 17:19:59 | mordov | windows XP = most unlogical UI evver |
| 17:20:28 | tucoz | hard to find out, I tried some google searches. But, it seems that most people want the recycle bin |
| 17:21:29 | Cassandra | I have it on Windows, I use it. I don't have it on Linux. I don't miss it. |
| 17:21:40 | mordov | I can turn the funciton of but nor remove the fucker..... windows makes a new one... eawen when I have set it to not put files in recyclebin |
| 17:21:53 | mordov | Cassandra:) |
| 17:22:04 | tucoz | Cassandra, do you know how to tell windows not to create a recycle bin on removable media? |
| 17:22:16 | Cassandra | I did once. |
| 17:22:21 | Cassandra | I can't remember how though. |
| 17:22:37 | Cassandra | Somewhere in the drive properties, I think. |
| 17:23:29 | preglow | you can switch recycle bins off per drive in the recycle bin itself |
| 17:23:41 | preglow | don't know if that suppresses creation of it on the drive, though |
| 17:23:44 | | Join webguest47 [0] (n=d4886a7e@labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:24:00 | preglow | plus, it's got a nasty habit of just forgetting your settings |
| 17:24:13 | tucoz | preglow, so I've heard |
| 17:24:27 | mordov | yapp... windows in genneral has amnicia |
| 17:25:00 | | Part tucoz ("Leaving") |
| 17:26:51 | XavierGr | Windoze suck, but I don't why I keep using them... |
| 17:27:01 | XavierGr | Too lazy to convert to Linux |
| 17:27:58 | XavierGr | http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 17:28:28 | XavierGr | this link is very handy. Why isn't there a direct link from Rockbox site? |
| 17:28:52 | XavierGr | forget me there is a link |
| 17:30:33 | | Join lamed [0] (n=55407091@labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:31:00 | mordov | can I rename the rockbox folder on my player? |
| 17:33:36 | preglow | mordov: not if you're interested in booting afterwards |
| 17:34:25 | mordov | hehe |
| 17:35:06 | mordov | bootin is overrated :S |
| 17:35:13 | preglow | indeed |
| 17:35:25 | preglow | why'd you want to rename it anyway? |
| 17:35:56 | mordov | wanted to call it system |
| 17:36:11 | preglow | well, you can, if you're able to compile your own rockbox |
| 17:36:19 | preglow | just replace all .rockbox with System |
| 17:36:51 | elinenbe | XavierGr: I agree... I love since25.html |
| 17:36:57 | mordov | ok.. I see I have to learn this compiling thing :) I need it everyday it seems |
| 17:37:45 | preglow | linuxstb: sorry about the lack of ipod work, but i'm a bit busy currently |
| 17:38:10 | preglow | i've got some small changes in that might enable us to boot rockbox, i'll try to test it afterwards |
| 17:39:51 | linuxstb | preglow: No problem. I haven't done much either. |
| 17:45:06 | | Quit Cassandra (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") |
| 17:45:07 | | Join Cassandra [0] (i=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) |
| 17:45:11 | | Quit Cassandra (Client Quit) |
| 17:49:43 | | Quit Mark__ ("Leaving") |
| 17:51:03 | | Join ep0ch| [0] (n=ep0ch|@84.12.156.149) |
| 17:54:54 | lamed | abprepeat.c missing id |
| 17:56:55 | | Join justsomeperson [0] (n=92a91979@labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:58:01 | lamed | aarrrghhh,,, ahhh,, please... a... better... ide... begging... dev-c can't display two parts of the same file. nither conTEXT texteditor... xemecs makes me angry with a very complex menu system & no syntax highlight... please, i'm just looking for something nice.. most preferebly something that can CVS, diff, patch.... |
| 17:58:43 | lamed | and edit one textfile in two windows, verticaly and horizonticaly |
| 17:59:12 | lamed | maybe an option to search entire project would be nice... |
| 17:59:16 | lamed | help :/ |
| 18:00 |
| 18:01:32 | linuxstb | lamed: In xemacs, just do Options -> Syntax Highlighting |
| 18:02:57 | lamed | linuxstb, thanks, but.. ah, those control ins/del shift alt bindings are so inconvenient! (win user, can't help it) |
| 18:03:27 | lamed | recorder has a remote?! |
| 18:04:19 | | Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") |
| 18:06:19 | lamed | linux. "<<<<<<< list.h" in a cvs updated file, means, the next following lines are from that filename untill "======"? |
| 18:07:17 | lamed | linuxstb? |
| 18:09:40 | linuxstb | I'm not sure. |
| 18:09:59 | linuxstb | But I think so. |
| 18:12:22 | | Join webguest02 [0] (n=414a01a5@labb.contactor.se) |
| 18:12:25 | | Part webguest02 |
| 18:14:43 | | Join leftright [0] (n=414a01a5@labb.contactor.se) |
| 18:15:12 | leftright | Slasheri; you here ? |
| 18:15:24 | leftright | got a bug for you :-) |
| 18:16:21 | Slasheri | leftright: hi, yes :) |
| 18:16:45 | leftright | If you rename a directory with "dir cahce" enabled it doesn't show the contents, but if you cycle the player on/off then the contents show |
| 18:17:17 | Slasheri | oh, thanks. I will try it. I have verified earlier that it should work but there might be something wrong |
| 18:17:46 | leftright | thank you :-) |
| 18:17:46 | lamed | max filename size = 215 ? |
| 18:18:02 | lamed | on rb |
| 18:19:15 | lamed | anyone? |
| 18:19:55 | | Join davidc____ [0] (n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net) |
| 18:20:33 | | Quit webguest47 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 18:20:50 | Slasheri | hmm, remote clicking can be fixed entirely |
| 18:20:54 | lamed | why everyone keeps ignoring my questions...? |
| 18:21:00 | Slasheri | it requires large delay to the I/O line |
| 18:21:15 | Slasheri | just tested and no more clicking at all |
| 18:21:42 | ep0ch| | lamed: patience, someone will answer if they know the answer. |
| 18:21:55 | leftright | lamed: folks are only inclined to answer if they know the answers to questions, nobodies purposely ignoring you, methinks :-) |
| 18:22:04 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I like the new "fast skip" option, but would it make sense to spin up the disk as soon as a user starts to skip files. At the moment, it seems that it only spins up the disk when you stop browsing. |
| 18:22:23 | Slasheri | linuxstb: yes. However, ata_spin() doesn't seem to work :/ |
| 18:22:29 | Slasheri | you can find it commented out from the code |
| 18:23:30 | | Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) |
| 18:24:02 | leftright | quit rockbox rulezzzzzz |
| 18:24:14 | ep0ch| | ha |
| 18:24:20 | leftright | hehe, stuffed that up |
| 18:24:34 | | Quit mordov ("www.CNLRacing.tk") |
| 18:24:36 | | Part leftright |
| 18:24:45 | preglow | i'm starting to dislike the buffering on irivers |
| 18:25:01 | preglow | is there any way to turn off the clever mini-buffering that happens before the main buffering? |
| 18:25:01 | ep0ch| | ? |
| 18:25:09 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Looking at the code in ata.c, ata_spin() only seems to prevent the disk from spinning down by resetting the timeout counter. It doesn't cause a spin to start |
| 18:25:25 | | Join grmbly [0] (n=56822d26@labb.contactor.se) |
| 18:25:34 | Slasheri | preglow: not yet. In fact, i am just modifying the code to buffer the first track entirely at start |
| 18:25:43 | Slasheri | linuxstb: oh :/ |
| 18:25:43 | preglow | Slasheri: i want it to buffer everything |
| 18:25:56 | grmbly | Hi all - just like to add my void to all that cannot wait for Rockbox on my H340 - Sorry to be a pest |
| 18:26:01 | grmbly | (voice) sorry! |
| 18:26:07 | preglow | i just created a playlist while a track was playing, and when those tracks started, i started to skip through them after a while to find the one i wanted |
| 18:26:14 | preglow | and each time i skipped a track, the disk spun up |
| 18:26:34 | ep0ch| | i dont like the idea of buffering everything straight away |
| 18:26:36 | grmbly | And also tho thank all those involved in the project - whats a suggested donation when it's live ? |
| 18:26:38 | | Join mordov [0] (n=Mordov@80.202.208.13) |
| 18:27:31 | Coldtoast | hey. http://www.users.on.net/~edan/edan/rec_0001.mp3 |
| 18:27:35 | grmbly | It's gone very quiet |
| 18:27:38 | Coldtoast | does that sound abnormally loud? |
| 18:27:45 | grmbly | Too Quiet, like sometings going on. |
| 18:27:57 | | Quit mashalla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 18:28:12 | grmbly | I wonder if that's them creeping up on us whilst we're not looking... |
| 18:28:30 | grmbly | or just paranoi |
| 18:28:39 | grmbly | paranoia (damn microsoft keyboard) |
| 18:30:09 | linuxstb | preglow: Have you read this thread about Vorbis files crashing Rockbox: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1852.0 |
| 18:31:18 | | Quit grmbly ("CGI:IRC") |
| 18:34:22 | | Join tidejp [0] (n=tidejp@eAc1Amv081.tky.mesh.ad.jp) |
| 18:34:51 | preglow | i have |
| 18:34:57 | preglow | i've already gotten a file from slasheri that crashes tremor |
| 18:35:00 | preglow | no time to look at yet |
| 18:35:29 | ep0ch| | i think those files were encoded with a pre-stable codec |
| 18:35:54 | preglow | this one's 1.0rc2 |
| 18:36:02 | preglow | low bitrate |
| 18:36:40 | ep0ch| | the one i'm looking at is 2001 02 25, about 15 months before vorbis was stable |
| 18:36:51 | linuxstb | The files linked to in that thread cause Tremor to crash in the ov_open_callbacks() function. So it's before any data is decoded. |
| 18:37:12 | preglow | oh? |
| 18:37:28 | linuxstb | But yes, ogginfo tells me it was encoded with "Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 (1.0 beta 4)" |
| 18:37:28 | | Quit justsomeperson ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 18:38:46 | linuxstb | It would be nice if we could make Tremor fail gracefully though. |
| 18:38:53 | preglow | indeed |
| 18:38:54 | preglow | or even work |
| 18:39:02 | preglow | i can't see why it shouldn't |
| 18:39:15 | lamed | dumb isn't supposed to build correctly, right? |
| 18:39:24 | preglow | i bet it's in fetch_headers |
| 18:39:30 | preglow | lamed: correct |
| 18:40:23 | | Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C2B033.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:40:46 | preglow | linuxstb: you didn't narrow it further down? |
| 18:40:48 | linuxstb | See this thread: http://www.neurosaudio.com/community/forum/post.asp?TOPIC_ID=4475&method=TopicQuote |
| 18:40:50 | | Join cannard [0] (n=at@60-240-12-94-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 18:40:57 | linuxstb | preglow: No, but read that thread |
| 18:41:16 | linuxstb | It appears that files decoded with beta 4 or earlier require more memory to decode. |
| 18:41:47 | preglow | so? still shouldn't crash us |
| 18:41:49 | linuxstb | Which would explain the segmentation fault I get in the sim - it must be overflowing some buffers. |
| 18:42:05 | preglow | but yeah, can't you narrow it down to an exact line? |
| 18:42:17 | petur | mordov: about that recycle bin: in explorer, right-click, properties: there you can set recyclebin separate for each drive and disable it |
| 18:42:38 | petur | mordov: only sure for W2K, which is what I use... |
| 18:43:05 | | Quit tidejp ("Leaving") |
| 18:43:06 | mordov | yapp, that made it work :) |
| 18:43:14 | mordov | after a restart of windows ;) |
| 18:43:28 | | Join tidejp [0] (n=tidejp@eAc1Amv081.tky.mesh.ad.jp) |
| 18:43:31 | mordov | wounder how long before windows reset the setings :) |
| 18:43:36 | mordov | thanks:) |
| 18:43:43 | petur | no problem |
| 18:43:59 | lamed | guys, question: is maximum filename char size is 215? |
| 18:44:08 | mordov | argh,, not it popped back... |
| 18:44:27 | mordov | so it's not so easy getting reid of system volum and recycle bin... |
| 18:44:35 | mordov | stupid XP |
| 18:44:38 | linuxstb | preglow: According to gdb, it crashes in _get_data which is called from fetch_headers |
| 18:45:44 | linuxstb | Sorry, fetch_headers calls get_next_page which calls get_data |
| 18:46:09 | * | lamed wonders if he is ever going to finish his patch |
| 18:46:14 | petur | mordov: sorry, I stopped upgrading at W2K, XP treats users as idiots... It thinks you made a mistake and has put it back ;) |
| 18:46:33 | mordov | hahahaha |
| 18:46:46 | mordov | so usedrfriendly you can die :) |
| 18:47:13 | preglow | linuxstb: sounds like a container error, then |
| 18:47:22 | preglow | hmm, or no |
| 18:47:27 | | Part tidejp ("Leaving") |
| 18:47:36 | mordov | w2k has some bugs on some games.. that whay I use Xp... |
| 18:47:50 | | Join tidejp [0] (n=tidejp@eAc1Amv081.tky.mesh.ad.jp) |
| 18:48:39 | linuxstb | lamed: It is MAX_PATH |
| 18:48:45 | Mxm`Pas`Bien | w2k is the best of windows .. |
| 18:48:45 | linuxstb | Which is set to 255 |
| 18:48:48 | | Nick Mxm`Pas`Bien is now known as Maxime (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) |
| 18:48:58 | cannard | thats why ive stuck with OS/2 Warp. i have to do some config to get games to work, but its fine! |
| 18:49:05 | Maxime | but, if u want to use latest office & so on, you have to go XP .. |
| 18:49:15 | preglow | linuxstb: you didn't get the exact line? |
| 18:49:29 | Coldtoast | why bother with Office? why not OpenOffice? |
| 18:49:45 | * | petur has no time left to waste on games |
| 18:49:46 | Coldtoast | it's better and it's free |
| 18:49:48 | cannard | openoffice is still a bit buggy |
| 18:49:53 | Maxime | Coldtoast: erm, was forced to install last office ^^ |
| 18:49:56 | Maxime | not my choice :p |
| 18:49:59 | linuxstb | preglow: vorbisfile.c:68 |
| 18:50:01 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 18:50:33 | preglow | linuxstb: so it's in ogg_sync_wrote? |
| 18:50:34 | Maxime | ^^ |
| 18:51:02 | linuxstb | gdb also tells me _get_next_page (vf=0xb5ca4200, og=0xb5ca410c, boundary=The value of variable 'boundary' is distributed across several locations, and GDB cannot access its value. |
| 18:51:29 | linuxstb | preglow: No, it's a few lines above that - we must have different versions of the file. 68 is the first line of that function for me - "errno=0" |
| 18:51:41 | linuxstb | Which is odd. |
| 18:51:57 | preglow | linuxstb: strange, i have no changes in it |
| 18:52:04 | preglow | linuxstb: only changes i have are in block.c |
| 18:52:34 | linuxstb | I had some debugging code in there. |
| 18:52:48 | petur | any cygwin user around? can't get that gcc-3.4.4 patch for coldfire to run (crosscompiler) - I don't have a gcc/config/m68k/ dir here :\ |
| 18:52:50 | Coldtoast | hey. what are the dimensions of the display on the LCD remote in pixels? |
| 18:52:51 | linuxstb | I'll compile a clean sim with no changes and try again. |
| 18:52:55 | | Join mashalla [0] (i=mashalla@p5498F4EC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:53:26 | mordov | petur: I drive 1.5 houer races in a series... I feel like I'm a f1 driver.. would not calle that waste :D |
| 18:55:05 | | Quit tidejp ("Leaving") |
| 18:55:29 | petur | mordov: I do a 1.0 hour compile on the crosscompiler, it crashes and then I see there's a patch... I feel like a beginner... that's wasted time! |
| 18:55:57 | mordov | hahahaha :) you'll get pro ;) |
| 18:55:58 | lamed | linuxstb, thanks, that's a quick fix for something here. |
| 18:56:37 | petur | mordov: should be, have a full-time programming job :( |
| 18:56:42 | linuxstb | preglow: I've uploaded the gdb backtrace here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ogg.txt |
| 18:57:03 | mordov | hahaha You are pro :) just start feeling like it ;) |
| 18:57:11 | linuxstb | This is with a clean compile - the crash happens on line 64. |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:52 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:00:53 | mordov | I have 4mb left of diskspace on my player is will that be a problem? chache a<nd stuf... |
| 19:02:10 | mordov | that's cool... windows says 4mb rockbox says 425 mb ;) |
| 19:02:14 | mordov | who is right? |
| 19:05:27 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) |
| 19:07:16 | | Join Ancelot [0] (n=18e8342a@labb.contactor.se) |
| 19:08:13 | Ancelot | Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM! |
| 19:09:33 | | Quit Ancelot (Client Quit) |
| 19:22:14 | | Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:33:19 | | Quit ehntoo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:34:22 | | Join Guest70021 [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:35:50 | | Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:45:45 | ghode|afk | does anyone know of a program that can download a whole website |
| 19:45:46 | ghode|afk | ? |
| 19:46:02 | preglow | wget? |
| 19:46:29 | ghode|afk | for windows? |
| 19:46:43 | preglow | it does exist for windows, yes |
| 19:46:49 | preglow | wget with the -r flag should work |
| 19:47:00 | ghode|afk | thanks |
| 19:47:19 | * | preglow does the sorry-for-mentioning-wget-in-here ritual |
| 19:47:39 | ghode|afk | hmm is this a download manager? |
| 19:49:19 | ghode|afk | nm seems to do what i need, thanks preglow |
| 19:50:14 | uski | preglow, why is it forbidden to mention wget ? :) it's a good program isn't it ? even if it's a bit offtopic :) |
| 19:52:03 | Coldtoast | I had an idea for the FM Radio WPS. you could have bitmaps named the same as a preset and have the bitmap ldisplayed when the preset is chosen |
| 19:52:09 | petur | amiconn: that patch you added on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler for gcc-3.4.4 - any info? |
| 19:52:13 | Coldtoast | so you could have station logos |
| 20:00 |
| 20:02:02 | Slasheri | Hmm, it seems that we would need to sacrifice some cpu time to prevent the remote from ticking |
| 20:03:06 | mordov | the remote is bugy on the iRiver firmware to..... |
| 20:03:18 | Slasheri | yep |
| 20:03:29 | Coldtoast | mine doesn't tick |
| 20:03:32 | mordov | good to know it's not just ne :) |
| 20:03:43 | ep0ch| | didn't they fix it with new firmware |
| 20:03:44 | Coldtoast | how loud is the drive when it's spinning for you guys? |
| 20:04:24 | Coldtoast | I noticed how loud mine is but I don't know if it's just cos I noticed it or if it's gotten loude |
| 20:04:25 | ep0ch| | Coldtoast: well i can hear it if i put my ear to the case |
| 20:04:25 | Coldtoast | r |
| 20:04:36 | Coldtoast | what about at arm's length? |
| 20:04:41 | Slasheri | putting _x < 100 to the delay loop, prevents ticking. But that will cost cpu power |
| 20:05:07 | Slasheri | and yielding is not possible because it takes too long |
| 20:05:11 | ep0ch| | Coldtoast: hangon letme find somwhere quiet |
| 20:05:16 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 20:05:40 | mordov | amr's lenht two compus on I can barly hear the higest part of the sound,,, |
| 20:05:46 | mordov | the high pitch :) |
| 20:05:59 | mordov | gues I would hear the rest if it was quiet |
| 20:06:38 | ep0ch| | Coldtoast: a slight wine and i can hear the headers chugging along |
| 20:06:44 | ep0ch| | whine? |
| 20:06:58 | mordov | yes please :) |
| 20:07:10 | ep0ch| | :) |
| 20:08:00 | Coldtoast | hmmm |
| 20:09:10 | | Join gromit` [0] (i=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:09:16 | | Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 20:09:19 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) |
| 20:09:38 | Coldtoast | if you do a recording in a quiet place and stop it recording when the drive spins down, is it louder than the MP3 I posted the link for earlier? |
| 20:10:46 | | Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:11:16 | Coldtoast | http://www.users.on.net/~edan/edan/rec_0001.mp3 that one, if you missed it |
| 20:11:17 | ep0ch| | what gain did you use? |
| 20:15:40 | Coldtoast | whatever the default is |
| 20:15:43 | | Join xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) |
| 20:16:48 | ep0ch| | 0dB i think |
| 20:17:15 | Coldtoast | I bet the hdd whine on mine is much louder |
| 20:20:51 | ep0ch| | can you check what you gain is set to |
| 20:20:54 | ep0ch| | your |
| 20:21:03 | | Quit NicoFR () |
| 20:21:18 | ep0ch| | i hear almost nothing at 0dB |
| 20:21:24 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 20:21:34 | | Join stupid_ro [0] (n=at@60-240-12-94-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 20:23:03 | Coldtoast | quality: 0, L and R Gain: 0dB |
| 20:23:28 | ep0ch| | No, from the recording screen, not recording settings |
| 20:23:51 | Coldtoast | 8dB |
| 20:24:25 | ep0ch| | ok assuming that's what you used with your original recording 'll try it again |
| 20:25:12 | ep0ch| | or would you like to re-record it at 8dB again to be sure :) |
| 20:25:30 | Coldtoast | I'll record at 0dB |
| 20:25:37 | ep0ch| | oh ok |
| 20:27:20 | | Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 20:28:02 | ep0ch| | Coldtoast: http://www.ep0ch.com/downloads/Rockbox/ColdToast/rec_0002.ogg |
| 20:28:12 | Coldtoast | ah cool! thanks |
| 20:28:29 | XavierGr | Slasheri: Do you have a patch to test? Mine clicks like hell. Does it had a major effect ot frequency? |
| 20:29:29 | Slasheri | XavierGr: Hmm, i will paste the patch for you |
| 20:29:40 | Coldtoast | ok. mine's HELLA noisy then |
| 20:29:46 | ep0ch| | heh |
| 20:30:01 | | Quit joshn ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") |
| 20:30:23 | Slasheri | XavierGr: if you can, please report if it causes any problems |
| 20:30:32 | Coldtoast | bummer. it'd out of warranty too |
| 20:30:46 | ep0ch| | Coldtoast: mine isn't the original ihp-120 one, since that one died. |
| 20:31:00 | Coldtoast | the drive? |
| 20:31:03 | ep0ch| | yeah |
| 20:31:08 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 20:31:21 | Coldtoast | I bet the drives aren't cheap either |
| 20:31:29 | Coldtoast | well, I'll wait for it to doe tho |
| 20:31:39 | ep0ch| | i think the 30gig was about £90 |
| 20:31:48 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 20:31:52 | Coldtoast | this is a h140 |
| 20:32:50 | ep0ch| | if i'd have known rockbox was going to ipod i should have bought an ipod and borrowed the drive for a while. |
| 20:33:19 | Coldtoast | if I buy another DAP, it'll be a 20GB at most |
| 20:34:05 | | Join BirdFish [0] (n=bradbox8@64.108.5.134) |
| 20:35:59 | solexx_ | Coldtoast: 20 gigs are not enough :) |
| 20:36:57 | Coldtoast | it is for me |
| 20:37:08 | Slasheri | XavierGr: hmm, in fact the delay is way too high if cpu is not boosted |
| 20:37:18 | Coldtoast | I've had my h140 since November last year and it has 8GB of stuff on it |
| 20:39:02 | | Quit cannard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 20:39:03 | | Nick stupid_ro is now known as cannard (n=at@60-240-12-94-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 20:39:39 | solexx_ | I have my H120 for two or three months now and I regularly only have several hundred MB free |
| 20:39:56 | solexx_ | I don't really listen to everything, though |
| 20:43:20 | | Join sanitarium [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 20:46:43 | | Join _sanitarium [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 20:49:29 | Coldtoast | just pulled it apart. at least the battery hasn't swollen or something and squashed the HDD |
| 20:50:14 | | Join sanitarium_ [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 20:53:50 | | Join _sanitarium_ [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 20:53:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 20:53:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK sanitarium |
| 20:53:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _sanitarium |
| 20:53:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 20:53:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK sanitarium_ |
| 20:53:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _sanitarium_ |
| 20:53:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 20:57:47 | | Join _sanitarium__ [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 20:57:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 20:57:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 20:57:47 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _sanitarium__ |
| 20:57:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 20:57:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 7 |
| 20:57:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 8 |
| 20:57:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 9 |
| 20:59:10 | | Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-195-14-206-54.netcologne.de) |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:25 | | Quit mashalla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:00:55 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:01:10 | | Join frcsyk [0] (n=ccae0c12@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:03:17 | | Quit sanitarium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:06:05 | frcsyk | hello |
| 21:06:26 | | Quit _sanitarium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:07:48 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 21:10:41 | | Quit sanitarium_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:14:10 | | Quit _sanitarium_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:14:47 | | Quit _sanitarium__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:16:04 | | Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 21:16:24 | lamed | how do i get stringsize? |
| 21:16:52 | | Join Philip [0] (n=Miranda@user-4261.l4.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 21:17:13 | | Join davidd [0] (i=davidd@67-50-85-206.br1.tbr.ga.frontiernet.net) |
| 21:18:38 | Philip | lol nice topic |
| 21:19:32 | | Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbc68.b.pppool.de) |
| 21:19:48 | muesli_- | re |
| 21:20:01 | | Join mashalla [0] (i=mashalla@p5498C1EC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:20:22 | | Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") |
| 21:21:27 | lamed | is lcd_fontsize still exists? |
| 21:22:52 | lamed | i'm trying to retrive the fontsize. lcd_fontsize is documented in docs/api/ but it's not in the code, correct? |
| 21:23:47 | | Join Acksaw [0] (i=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-4-0-cust5.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 21:24:02 | lamed | font_get |
| 21:24:06 | Acksaw | updated the fwpatcher i see |
| 21:24:14 | lamed | font_getstringsize |
| 21:25:52 | lamed | help anyone |
| 21:26:44 | Acksaw | whata up |
| 21:27:22 | | Quit davidd () |
| 21:28:02 | | Quit Guest70021 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 21:29:40 | | Join webguest90 [0] (n=502c76bb@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:32:32 | | Join Guest70021 [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:39:53 | Febs | H300 added to the fwpatcher. That's exciting news. |
| 21:40:22 | | Quit arkascha (Remote closed the connection) |
| 21:41:41 | Febs | Of course, it will be even more exciting when he makes the updated fwpatcher available for downloading. |
| 21:42:26 | webguest90 | whare does that fit in the large scheme of things? |
| 21:47:21 | Ctcp | Ignored 5 channel CTCP requests in 3 minutes and 57 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:47:21 | * | lamed thinks that's just another way to speak about the forbidden topic. |
| 21:49:04 | Febs | The bootloader is the part of Rockbox that gets flashed to your player's flash memory. |
| 21:49:08 | webguest90 | ohh |
| 21:49:12 | Acksaw | hehe |
| 21:49:17 | Febs | It's explained here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#iriver_jukeboxes |
| 21:49:19 | Acksaw | btw Febs |
| 21:49:27 | Acksaw | congrats on becoming a mod at MR |
| 21:49:31 | Febs | Thanks. |
| 21:49:53 | | Join _sanitarium__ [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 21:49:57 | Acksaw | San! |
| 21:50:13 | Acksaw | i see your having problems joining MR |
| 21:52:35 | | Join _sanitarium [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 21:52:43 | _sanitarium | i am running linux |
| 21:52:52 | _sanitarium | kubuntu |
| 21:53:11 | _sanitarium | and there is something wrong with my connection |
| 21:53:41 | Acksaw | i see |
| 21:56:30 | | Join sanitarium_ [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:06 | | Join _sanitarium_ [0] (n=sanitari@213.202.191.91) |
| 22:00:06 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 22:00:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _sanitarium__ |
| 22:00:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _sanitarium |
| 22:00:06 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 22:00:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK sanitarium_ |
| 22:00:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _sanitarium_ |
| 22:00:06 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 22:00:35 | | Quit Acksaw () |
| 22:09:31 | | Quit _sanitarium__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:10:07 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 22:10:37 | | Quit _sanitarium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:11:36 | lamed | what's font->maxwidth for? |
| 22:11:43 | | Quit Guest70021 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:16:24 | | Quit sanitarium_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:17:33 | | Quit _sanitarium_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:22:18 | | Join webguest43 [0] (n=478dfe63@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:32:07 | | Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 22:34:04 | | Quit webguest43 ("CGI:IRC") |
| 22:50:27 | | Part ep0ch| |
| 22:56:07 | | Quit ^BeN^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 22:57:19 | lamed | how do i cast an integer to pointer for a function without declering another pointer? |
| 22:57:53 | | Join Guest70021 [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:57:59 | | Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:59 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:04:46 | | Join DMJC-L [0] (n=DMJC-L@220-245-163-220-sa-nt-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) |
| 23:08:02 | | Join pinkutank [0] (n=ddd@85.101.96.60) |
| 23:08:14 | pinkutank | bj, toute le monde konichiwa minna |
| 23:08:48 | pinkutank | does the inverse mode kill battery life? I was thinkg of a wps that operates at inverse |
| 23:11:38 | pinkutank | interesting, no one here |
| 23:12:18 | ender` | it's friday evening |
| 23:13:34 | | Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:13:45 | pinkutank | i know i guessed so |
| 23:13:52 | LinusN | pinkutank: the inverse mode doesn't use more power |
| 23:14:06 | pinkutank | good, maybe this wps'll turn out rather good |
| 23:14:11 | pinkutank | how are things? |
| 23:14:19 | LinusN | fine i guess |
| 23:14:44 | pinkutank | which one would you prefer, a numeric volume meter or a graphic? |
| 23:14:49 | pinkutank | or both side by side |
| 23:15:10 | LinusN | graphic |
| 23:15:43 | pinkutank | you fine tune by ear then, ok I'll just add numerical later if people request it afterwards |
| 23:17:15 | ender` | make it an option! >:) |
| 23:17:24 | | Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 23:18:52 | uski | hi all |
| 23:18:57 | uski | LinusN, hi :) |
| 23:19:05 | LinusN | yo |
| 23:19:33 | uski | (i hate my school... i don't have much time to spend here while studying.. what a pity) |
| 23:19:36 | pinkutank | lol, you reminded me of a guy that started his ib oral like that |
| 23:20:02 | pinkutank | he said Yo, I'm x x, registration #10512050 |
| 23:20:26 | | Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A47EDE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:20:40 | muesli_- | hi LinusN ...stupid question... how do i join the developing crew (a friend probably wants) |
| 23:20:51 | uski | pinkutank, what's an "ib oral" ? :) |
| 23:22:13 | LinusN | muesli_-: you write patches and get them accepted |
| 23:22:35 | LinusN | then we get tired of applying all your patches so we give you a cvs account |
| 23:22:48 | muesli_- | *g* |
| 23:23:04 | | Quit Midgey34 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:26:23 | pinkutank | uski: international bacchelaureat |
| 23:26:30 | uski | pinkutank, ok |
| 23:26:53 | pinkutank | baccalaureat |
| 23:27:01 | pinkutank | that was born to be mispelled |
| 23:27:18 | uski | yea, like some other french words (i'm french so I know that lol) |
| 23:27:30 | uski | anticonstitutionellement is a french word too :D |
| 23:34:18 | | Join eli_sherer [0] (n=eli@IGLD-84-228-222-48.inter.net.il) |
| 23:34:48 | | Quit samwichse (Remote closed the connection) |
| 23:37:11 | | Join webguest46 [0] (n=54e4de30@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:37:12 | | Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@85-250-225-75.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 23:37:28 | | Quit ^BeN^ (Client Quit) |
| 23:37:28 | | Part webguest46 |
| 23:38:05 | eli_sherer | any new stuff about the porting? |
| 23:38:09 | | Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@85-250-225-75.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 23:38:24 | LinusN | eli_sherer: not really |
| 23:38:37 | LinusN | which port are you talking about btw? |
| 23:38:50 | eli_sherer | LinusN: sorry, the h300 ofcourse... |
| 23:39:09 | ^BeN^ | eli, israeli user? |
| 23:39:13 | eli_sherer | yup |
| 23:39:16 | ^BeN^ | =] |
| 23:39:21 | ^BeN^ | ma nisma =] |
| 23:39:33 | eli_sherer | i made the hebrew mod... |
| 23:39:50 | ^BeN^ | ohh =] good mod |
| 23:40:03 | ^BeN^ | but if the files dont need to be in gibrish |
| 23:40:07 | ^BeN^ | it was better |
| 23:40:08 | | Join Kyl3 [0] (i=Kyle@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:40:20 | eli_sherer | I use icaptool it's the best |
| 23:40:34 | eli_sherer | my mod supports icaptool |
| 23:40:55 | ^BeN^ | ok but the files in the computer |
| 23:41:06 | ^BeN^ | in gibrish |
| 23:41:10 | eli_sherer | just run it in the music directort "icaptool +u" |
| 23:41:12 | ^BeN^ | not regular hebrew |
| 23:41:20 | ^BeN^ | i know |
| 23:41:21 | eli_sherer | so to get it back you type "icaptool -u" |
| 23:41:25 | ^BeN^ | i allready use it |
| 23:41:35 | eli_sherer | thats temporary solution |
| 23:41:56 | eli_sherer | Rockbox supports hebrew and bidir languages so all of this will be worthless |
| 23:42:04 | ^BeN^ | u have some information when i river release new firmware? |
| 23:42:26 | eli_sherer | that's LinusN to know and for me to wait to find out... :( |
| 23:42:39 | eli_sherer | ohh you mean iriver...? |
| 23:42:45 | ^BeN^ | irvier |
| 23:42:46 | LinusN | i doubt that iriver will release anything |
| 23:42:56 | eli_sherer | i second that |
| 23:43:04 | ^BeN^ | bitches |
| 23:43:06 | Kyl3 | what about that whole 1.29k thing? |
| 23:43:07 | ^BeN^ | =\ |
| 23:43:11 | LinusN | makes no sense |
| 23:43:14 | eli_sherer | rumor |
| 23:43:22 | Kyl3 | In any case tho, Rockbox will be better. |
| 23:43:24 | LinusN | why waste developing resources on a dead platform? |
| 23:43:26 | ^BeN^ | whell i will wait for rockbox like all |
| 23:43:27 | ^BeN^ | =] |
| 23:43:32 | | Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) |
| 23:43:43 | Kyl3 | It dualboots right? |
| 23:43:47 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:43:50 | Kyl3 | ok |
| 23:44:03 | ^BeN^ | linus do you work on somthing now? |
| 23:44:08 | LinusN | it's the same as on h100, hold rec to start the original |
| 23:44:17 | eli_sherer | LinusN: do you have any hopes of making support for the USB-OTG? |
| 23:44:29 | LinusN | of course |
| 23:44:30 | Kyl3 | isnt that hardware |
| 23:44:32 | Kyl3 | ? |
| 23:44:53 | DMJC-L | with the 300 series, is the audio hardware the same? |
| 23:44:58 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:45:01 | Moos | hey guys |
| 23:45:02 | DMJC-L | nice |
| 23:45:13 | Philip | except no optical |
| 23:45:28 | DMJC-L | so have you got sound playback already working |
| 23:45:29 | DMJC-L | ? |
| 23:45:30 | Kyl3 | i cant wait though, for the 1st hour after the relese, the site prolly gonna be down lolz |
| 23:45:39 | Moos | Hey Linus you will need to duplicate yourself for answer to all new H300 questions XD |
| 23:45:40 | ^BeN^ | LOL |
| 23:45:49 | Philip | lol |
| 23:45:54 | LinusN | DMJC-L: no, there are a few minor differences that i haven't worked out |
| 23:45:58 | eli_sherer | i guess in israel it's going to be on the news of every gadget site... |
| 23:46:07 | eli_sherer | and people will start buying them like crazy... :) |
| 23:46:08 | | Join modafroman [0] (n=subatomi@CPE-138-130-209-123.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 23:46:12 | DMJC-L | k |
| 23:46:12 | Kyl3 | usbotg is a hardware issue on the us players right? |
| 23:46:22 | Philip | yes |
| 23:46:26 | modafroman | usbotg is included on all players iirc |
| 23:46:27 | Kyl3 | so what plans do you guys have for it |
| 23:46:38 | LinusN | no plans, really |
| 23:46:42 | DMJC-L | heh I can think of so many uses already hehehe |
| 23:46:48 | Kyl3 | oh |
| 23:46:52 | lamed | i forgot how to chain commands even if one of them fails (i.e, not &&) |
| 23:46:52 | Kyl3 | but itll function? |
| 23:46:53 | DMJC-L | (wireless dongle) |
| 23:46:56 | LinusN | we'll aim for UMS first i guess |
| 23:47:04 | DMJC-L | yeah |
| 23:47:06 | Kyl3 | good idea |
| 23:47:17 | DMJC-L | make it act like the original firmware |
| 23:47:32 | DMJC-L | that's what you do first, new stuff can come later |
| 23:47:33 | LinusN | the us models have the usb-otg hardware, but they lack the power supply for the slave |
| 23:47:41 | modafroman | do they? |
| 23:48:11 | Kyl3 | yeah, power it externally or solder a jumper wire |
| 23:48:18 | LinusN | exactly |
| 23:48:31 | DMJC-L | so Linus, what kind of ETA you thinking of? best case scenario |
| 23:48:32 | modafroman | ahh |
| 23:48:58 | LinusN | DMJC-L: come on, give me a break |
| 23:49:27 | modafroman | lol |
| 23:49:32 | lamed | linusN: how do i chain commands even if one of them fails? |
| 23:49:37 | DMJC-L | just wondering because of how quickly the wiki seemed to turn from not much to like 75% green |
| 23:49:41 | Philip | xD read topic |
| 23:49:50 | LinusN | lamed: where and when? |
| 23:49:50 | DMJC-L | hehe |
| 23:50:04 | modafroman | slash topic #rockbox |
| 23:50:08 | DMJC-L | be hillarious if my h300 arrives as the firmware comes out |
| 23:50:22 | modafroman | why? |
| 23:50:32 | lamed | like cd .. && make && diff just make it always happend. |
| 23:50:41 | DMJC-L | well I'm getting it for like $165 |
| 23:50:45 | LinusN | windows i guess? |
| 23:50:49 | DMJC-L | and it's replacing my 100 seris |
| 23:50:55 | lamed | cygwin i mean. |
| 23:50:59 | Kyl3 | How come on the daily builds website, the 11/18 19:28 build has no errors but the newest one does? unless its a new issue just discovered |
| 23:51:02 | DMJC-L | I figured I'd get stuck with the iriver firmware |
| 23:51:10 | DMJC-L | when my 100 broke |
| 23:51:17 | | Quit Philip ("Night all") |
| 23:51:19 | Kyl3 | oopse |
| 23:51:24 | DMJC-L | and they said they'd only replace it with a 300 |
| 23:51:24 | Kyl3 | newest one doesnt |
| 23:51:32 | Kyl3 | you updated again |
| 23:51:35 | Kyl3 | fast |
| 23:51:37 | LinusN | lamed: i don't remember |
| 23:51:38 | lamed | linusn: i just forgot the syntax, to make it always happend, even if there was an error. |
| 23:52:07 | lamed | thanks |
| 23:52:12 | DMJC-L | as for the question heh |
| 23:52:21 | eli_sherer | look at some ideas i made for future programs on H300 ROCKbox http://www.misticriver.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=442 |
| 23:52:23 | DMJC-L | sorry bout that but I never read topics in xchat |
| 23:52:50 | modafroman | eli_sherer: i dont get it? |
| 23:53:19 | eli_sherer | the keyboard layout for a text editor and a draw program layout... |
| 23:53:25 | modafroman | right |
| 23:53:36 | modafroman | id rather have a gba emulator |
| 23:53:40 | modafroman | :p |
| 23:53:43 | DMJC-L | heh |
| 23:53:53 | DMJC-L | good luck coding m68k assembler heh |
| 23:54:00 | | Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-222.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 23:54:02 | eli_sherer | the keyboard layout is already 220 on the width and the buttons are very well engineered |
| 23:54:22 | DMJC-L | I'd love to see a wireless module |
| 23:54:34 | DMJC-L | for network detection... have it as a handheld wardriving kit |
| 23:54:41 | DMJC-L | not that that'll ever happen heh |
| 23:55:22 | eli_sherer | with usb host you can do anything...it's just a matter of how many room do you have for OS |
| 23:55:34 | eli_sherer | drivers and such |
| 23:55:46 | modafroman | the 3 things id want for h300 rockbox: gba/gb colour emulator, ~24fps video, and, i have no idea what the final one is |
| 23:55:56 | modafroman | but i dont know how viable that is |
| 23:56:02 | DMJC-L | heh |
| 23:56:13 | modafroman | the clock would have to be raised quite a bit for 24fps video = less battery |
| 23:56:21 | eli_sherer | 24 fps will really be amazing...it'll make my archos owner friends jeleous |
| 23:56:26 | DMJC-L | vid would be sweet but yeah |
| 23:56:30 | DMJC-L | hard |
| 23:56:54 | lamed | linusn: will you have time to check my patch? |
| 23:57:09 | lamed | it will be ready very soon |
| 23:57:19 | modafroman | what for lamed? |
| 23:58:06 | eli_sherer | modafroman: i think gba emulator will need more then 10fps as well... |
| 23:58:19 | modafroman | gba runs at ~20fps i think |
| 23:58:31 | modafroman | but that would be so awesome |
| 23:58:42 | modafroman | however i think the gba clock is like ~100mhz |
| 23:58:56 | eli_sherer | even gbc will be ok with me... btw iriver has more colors then gba... |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).