| 00:00:01 | amiconn | like, SCREEN_SET_BACKGROUND(screen, colour) |
| 00:00:22 | amiconn | which would collapse to nothing when there are only monochrome screen(s) |
| 00:01:04 | amiconn | but expand to screen->set_background(colour) as soon as at least one screen is greyscale or colour |
| 00:01:31 | amiconn | the set_background function would then be high-level |
| 00:02:04 | amiconn | ..and call the appropriate driver function depending on display capabilities |
| 00:02:33 | TiMiD | sounds good |
| 00:02:36 | TiMiD | about color |
| 00:02:58 | TiMiD | does it have to be r, g, b ? |
| 00:02:59 | lamed | seems like gmini simulator isn't building. what builds am i supposed to usually check before uploading a patch? |
| 00:03:11 | amiconn | TiMiD: On colour units: yes |
| 00:03:54 | TiMiD | then the program would still have particular case |
| 00:04:16 | amiconn | Not if the generic colours are also macros |
| 00:04:35 | preglow | damn, it's getting chilly |
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| 00:05:12 | amiconn | We need a top-level #define (can be 'computed' based on the individual lcd macros) that tells us the device capability |
| 00:05:46 | amiconn | E.g. |
| 00:05:51 | TiMiD | device capability ? you mean screen capability |
| 00:06:09 | amiconn | #if defined(LCD_COLOUR) || defined(LCD_REMOTE_COLOUR) |
| 00:06:27 | amiconn | #define DISPLAY_CAP COLOUR |
| 00:06:45 | amiconn | #elif (LCD_DEPTH > 1) || (LCD_REMOTE_DEPTH > 1) |
| 00:06:55 | amiconn | #define DISPLAY_CAP GRAY |
| 00:06:58 | amiconn | #else |
| 00:07:05 | amiconn | #define DISPLAY_CAP MONO |
| 00:07:06 | amiconn | #endif |
| 00:08:06 | TiMiD | in case we have mono & color, this would always tell us COLOR |
| 00:08:14 | amiconn | s/COLOUR/COLOR/g |
| 00:08:21 | preglow | linuxstb: i'm not at all certain what to do with the cop, i'm just hoping it'll sleep on until i want to care about it |
| 00:08:23 | amiconn | Yes, and it has to |
| 00:08:35 | TiMiD | so the app would send parameters as rgb to both displays |
| 00:08:39 | amiconn | yes |
| 00:08:52 | amiconn | That's where the app-level set_background comes into play |
| 00:09:42 | TiMiD | I see |
| 00:09:54 | amiconn | It's unavoidable for colour-mono or grey-mono combinations, if we want to get the app code as display-independent as possible |
| 00:10:12 | amiconn | ...but the functions would vanish for mono-only units |
| 00:10:25 | amiconn | ...and that are the ones we have to worry about code-size wise |
| 00:11:04 | TiMiD | yes, the app level set_background would be reduced more and more when decreasing the max unit capabilities |
| 00:11:15 | amiconn | Yes. |
| 00:12:23 | amiconn | For colour capable devices, it would call the driver-level function for the colour screen, convert to grey and call the driver-level function for greyscale screen, and ignore the value for a mono screen |
| 00:12:52 | amiconn | For greyscale devices, it would call the driver-level function for the greyscale screen, and ignore the value for a mono screen |
| 00:13:01 | amiconn | For a mono device, it wouldn't be present |
| 00:13:34 | amiconn | An appropriate place should be screen-access.c |
| 00:13:38 | TiMiD | the only thing I see which wouldn't work is when apps will use custom r g b values |
| 00:13:50 | preglow | amiconn: would rockbox work on some level with no interrupt handling? |
| 00:14:06 | amiconn | This one already contains screentype dependent code |
| 00:14:07 | TiMiD | because it could become ugly on displays without color :) |
| 00:14:29 | amiconn | Yes. For custom colours, the app has to check the capability definition |
| 00:14:45 | TiMiD | hehe |
| 00:14:51 | amiconn | It's impossible to make the app code 100% independent, the screens differ way too much for this |
| 00:14:52 | TiMiD | sounds like we solved this problem ;) |
| 00:15:10 | TiMiD | now implementation :) |
| 00:15:27 | amiconn | Like, the plugins which use game graphics have to use different graphics depending on the resolution etc |
| 00:15:51 | amiconn | Things will become even more funny where the special gfx libraries come into play |
| 00:15:59 | amiconn | (playergfx and grayscale) |
| 00:16:02 | TiMiD | like grayscal ^^ |
| 00:16:26 | amiconn | Speaking about it - I should get back to working on it :) |
| 00:16:34 | amiconn | graycsale to the sim! |
| 00:16:36 | TiMiD | grayscale ? |
| 00:16:39 | TiMiD | oh yes :) |
| 00:16:56 | amiconn | The win32 sim is already partly prepared for this |
| 00:17:02 | TiMiD | maybe grayscale could be moved to app level instead of staying inside the plugins |
| 00:17:20 | TiMiD | (same for playergfx) |
| 00:17:23 | amiconn | no |
| 00:17:34 | LinusN | lamed: don't bother about the gmini |
| 00:17:52 | LinusN | that is a dead target for now |
| 00:18:43 | linuxstb__ | preglow: Yes, I hope so too. |
| 00:18:47 | linuxstb__ | (about the cop) |
| 00:18:49 | TiMiD | ohh just something |
| 00:18:52 | LinusN | TiMiD: the greyscale code takes too much memory and cpu |
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| 00:19:14 | TiMiD | I activated disk icon on remote |
| 00:19:21 | TiMiD | everyone is ok woth this ? |
| 00:19:26 | TiMiD | with |
| 00:19:44 | LinusN | i'm with you |
| 00:19:48 | amiconn | LinusN, TiMiD: And of course, grayscale in the core would increase binary size considerably |
| 00:20:24 | amiconn | LinusN: Btw, what about enabling folder skipo for archos? Not that I like this feature, |
| 00:20:38 | linuxstb__ | Is there a reason current_tick is signed, or is that a mistake? |
| 00:20:53 | amiconn | but I like features even less where the functions exist but are not hooked |
| 00:21:07 | LinusN | linuxstb: not that i know of |
| 00:21:15 | amiconn | linuxstb: When thionking about it, it's probably to ease compting time differences |
| 00:21:34 | LinusN | ah yes |
| 00:21:37 | * | amiconn can't type :/ |
| 00:21:41 | TiMiD | also, is it possible to test the alarm_menu on sim ? |
| 00:21:55 | amiconn | No, afaik |
| 00:22:05 | TiMiD | so I can't test it hehe |
| 00:22:12 | * | amiconn points at LinusN |
| 00:22:19 | LinusN | should be easy to simulate |
| 00:22:32 | amiconn | This has to be tested by an fmrecorder or v2 owner (or v1 with alarm mod) |
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| 00:22:48 | amiconn | LinusN: Using cron? ;) |
| 00:24:02 | TiMiD | at least i compile it |
| 00:24:25 | TiMiD | I assume that since the modifications I did wern't too critic, it will work |
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| 00:25:35 | LinusN | amiconn: :-) |
| 00:27:11 | LinusN | i guess i'll attack the rtc simulation when i port the rtc functions to the h300 |
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| 00:31:04 | preglow | ok, so let's see what else i've forgotten |
| 00:33:38 | LinusN | amiconn: i think folder skip should be enabled on archos |
| 00:35:11 | preglow | linuxstb__: the bootloader button driver is rEALLY flakey here |
| 00:35:16 | preglow | it works about one time in ten |
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| 00:37:19 | pinkutank | nhola |
| 00:38:07 | pinkutank | seems like we fixed some |
| 00:38:13 | pinkutank | i mean the wps |
| 00:38:40 | pinkutank | rockbox is really killing me, im an update addict, I build every single cvs change |
| 00:38:43 | pinkutank | :) |
| 00:38:54 | hshah_ | i do that too - lol |
| 00:38:55 | Kyl3 | lol |
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| 00:39:32 | DMJC | can you run the iriver 300 series in a low power greyscale mode? |
| 00:39:34 | linuxstb | preglow: I find it reliable - a long as I press the button at the right time :) i.e. just before the apple logo appears. |
| 00:39:40 | DMJC | or does it need to be run in color |
| 00:40:39 | preglow | linuxstb: doesn't work anyway for me |
| 00:40:55 | preglow | looks like fat code is failing for me now |
| 00:41:05 | preglow | can't load rockbox.ipod |
| 00:41:10 | preglow | and can't create a file either, i see |
| 00:41:35 | Kyl3 | ipod rockbox is out? |
| 00:41:35 | linuxstb | Mmm. What have you changed? |
| 00:41:48 | linuxstb | Kyl3: No, we're still working on it. |
| 00:42:03 | Kyl3 | oh |
| 00:44:01 | preglow | linuxstb: not much, crt0, primarily |
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| 00:44:22 | preglow | load_rockbox returns -1 |
| 00:44:25 | dropandho | hey all! |
| 00:44:26 | preglow | which means it couldn't open at all |
| 00:44:47 | amiconn | TiMiD: Btw, today I've noticed that your new yesno.c isn't used everywhere yet. The Delete? confirmation still uses a custom request |
| 00:45:04 | dropandho | anyone know if anyone is working on any of the Blocker bugs on the ihp? |
| 00:45:12 | amiconn | I also noticed that the remote looks funny for plugins that use splash, but don't use it otherwise |
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| 00:45:34 | linuxstb | preglow: Let me test the current bootloader. |
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| 00:45:58 | DMJC | will the 300 version of rockbox support the H140 remote? |
| 00:46:05 | amiconn | yes |
| 00:46:10 | DMJC | cool :D |
| 00:46:13 | Kyl3 | how about the h300 remote? |
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| 00:46:32 | DMJC | h300 remote is a clone of the buttons isn't it? |
| 00:46:35 | amiconn | Kyl3: That's the buttons-only remote? |
| 00:46:43 | DMJC | yeah |
| 00:46:58 | amiconn | Probably, if at least one dev has it |
| 00:47:06 | Kyl3 | its the joystick one |
| 00:47:10 | amiconn | *way* easier than the remote lcd |
| 00:47:20 | TiMiD | amiconn: yes, I'm currently trying to make the codeuse it everywhere |
| 00:47:29 | TiMiD | and also to remove the status_draw |
| 00:47:33 | amiconn | Button-only remotes are an old hat for rockbox |
| 00:47:53 | amiconn | The archos player and recorder has a button remote |
| 00:48:06 | dropandho | do any of you guys know any of the work on the bug blockers? |
| 00:48:31 | amiconn | What do you mean with blockers? |
| 00:48:43 | amiconn | Many devs are continuously working in different areas |
| 00:49:08 | dropandho | on the wiki there are bugs that "must be fixed before a release of Rockbox for iriver" |
| 00:49:19 | dropandho | i havent heard talk of them on forever, as they aren't exciting |
| 00:49:26 | preglow | linuxstb: correct partition is listed at boot, so i don't quite understand why it fails in opening the file |
| 00:49:28 | dropandho | i was just wondering if anyone was workin on any of them |
| 00:51:31 | pinkutank | guys, I think he was talking about the lcd h300 remote |
| 00:51:36 | pinkutank | there is such a remote |
| 00:51:42 | Kyl3 | yea |
| 00:52:00 | Kyl3 | the one sold at MR from time 2 time |
| 00:52:00 | pinkutank | or she |
| 00:52:17 | pinkutank | I hate not knowing the gender, I cant clal you peole it can I |
| 00:52:30 | linuxstb | preglow: It's still working fine for me. I've just compiled a clean bootloader from CVS, and it loads my rockbox.ipod and the checksum matches. |
| 00:52:37 | preglow | linuxstb: seems threading broke it... |
| 00:52:39 | Kyl3 | if you meant me im a he |
| 00:52:43 | preglow | i just got the rockbox splash here |
| 00:52:51 | linuxstb | oooh. Photo! |
| 00:52:53 | preglow | haha |
| 00:52:59 | preglow | plus a ton of garbage |
| 00:53:02 | linuxstb | And then what happened? |
| 00:53:02 | preglow | okies, gimme a sec |
| 00:53:06 | preglow | it locked, of course |
| 00:54:12 | preglow | i don't have a .rockbox yet, you see :) |
| 00:55:11 | preglow | ok, but then it appears something's busted in my threading |
| 00:55:34 | dropandho | amiconn- do you know what i am refering to? |
| 00:55:45 | amiconn | No |
| 00:55:56 | linuxstb | amiconn: It's the IriverStatus page. |
| 00:56:01 | dropandho | thanks! |
| 00:56:01 | dropandho | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverStatus |
| 00:56:05 | amiconn | I don't own a h300, and I haven't seen a special h300 lcd remote |
| 00:56:30 | linuxstb | But those "blocker bugs" were written a few months ago - some (e.g. the voice UI) may be fixed. |
| 00:56:37 | * | amiconn seems to be confusing people |
| 00:56:43 | dropandho | great news! |
| 00:57:03 | Kyl3 | you saved money on your car inccurance |
| 00:57:03 | Kyl3 | ? |
| 00:57:06 | linuxstb | But there may be other bugs which aren't in that list. |
| 00:57:11 | amiconn | dropandho: None of these are fixed afaik |
| 00:57:17 | dropandho | so how do we poll people to get this updated |
| 00:57:21 | dropandho | got it |
| 00:58:10 | amiconn | voice UI has more problems than just the one mentioned |
| 00:58:13 | dropandho | everyone seems to be focused on more exciting things (wps, remote, ipod, h300) so i was just curious |
| 00:59:08 | linuxstb | Yes, there is a danger that everyone will move onto the new colour devices. But most of the bugs will apply to those targets as well. |
| 00:59:16 | preglow | linuxstb: what'd you call that linux camera download prog again? |
| 00:59:21 | linuxstb | s/everyone/some people/ |
| 00:59:32 | linuxstb | gphoto2 |
| 00:59:47 | preglow | argh |
| 00:59:52 | dropandho | linuxstb- thanks, just really excited to get a released rockbox for my h120! |
| 00:59:57 | preglow | ubuntu used to have a handler that reacted to me plugging in my camera |
| 00:59:58 | preglow | not so anymore |
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| 01:00:04 | pinkutank | ill send you a picture of a h300 lcd if you guys want |
| 01:00:16 | amiconn | I'm interested in colour devices from the development point of view; for actual usage I try to stay away from them |
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| 01:00:33 | pinkutank | dropandho what do you want updated |
| 01:00:37 | pinkutank | why amiconn |
| 01:00:41 | pinkutank | i mean why stay away |
| 01:00:57 | amiconn | Colour eats more battery and isn't readable without backlight |
| 01:01:03 | Scohol | so is anyone working on a gigabeat firmware? |
| 01:01:07 | amiconn | ...and it's unnecessary for a dap |
| 01:01:12 | pinkutank | ipod video is readable without backlight |
| 01:01:27 | dropandho | pinkutank- i was just wondering if the blocker bugs on the iriver status page were upto date |
| 01:01:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:01:50 | pinkutank | iriver 120 firmware is very fine atm if you want to use it |
| 01:01:54 | LinusN | Scohol: not that i know of |
| 01:01:56 | amiconn | LinusN: Btw, what about the windows installer builds? |
| 01:02:08 | LinusN | ooops, forgot that :-) |
| 01:02:12 | amiconn | meh :/ |
| 01:02:13 | linuxstb | Scohol: One person is thinking about it, but he doesn't even own a gigabeat yet. |
| 01:02:16 | pinkutank | + i read lots of manga, I'd enjoy watching an anime or two |
| 01:02:30 | amiconn | Then there is that nice little feature of logbot... |
| 01:02:31 | Scohol | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatInfo <−−- yeah |
| 01:02:41 | pinkutank | there was something about them that makes it easy, i forgot what |
| 01:02:51 | pinkutank | but they have 400 mhz arm processor!! |
| 01:03:19 | Scohol | their firmware is based on linux |
| 01:03:20 | pinkutank | + x30 is not so chunky and the control looks nice |
| 01:03:27 | pinkutank | but dont expect it monday |
| 01:03:40 | linuxstb | Scohol: Do you own a gigabeat? |
| 01:03:45 | Scohol | yeah |
| 01:03:46 | amiconn | linuxstb: Did you scan your unit meanwhile? |
| 01:04:11 | linuxstb | No, not yet. I need to install the scanner first. |
| 01:04:16 | pinkutank | scohol: then you can speed up the process if youre willing to hlep the dev teaö |
| 01:04:18 | pinkutank | m |
| 01:04:32 | Scohol | but being new to all this, not sure what to do |
| 01:04:43 | San | haw are things coming along with the H300 port |
| 01:04:47 | San | any new progress |
| 01:05:11 | Scohol | soo.. i can do things if you tell me what to do |
| 01:05:28 | Kyl3 | a few new builds |
| 01:05:38 | Kyl3 | no releases |
| 01:05:46 | San | cool |
| 01:06:38 | Scohol | is alright, im not a lamer.. just don't know how to start to mod a DAP |
| 01:06:43 | linuxstb | Scohol: You could ask Toshiba for a copy of the source code to the parts of their firmware covered by the GPL? |
| 01:07:17 | Scohol | im sure we could try.. since it is a GPL |
| 01:07:21 | pinkutank | I think he can do more linux |
| 01:07:32 | pinkutank | lets debate the mail were going to send them |
| 01:07:43 | pinkutank | the firmware is their botleneck of a really good hardware |
| 01:07:49 | DMJC | how many platforms are you trying to get rockbox on? |
| 01:07:56 | pinkutank | everywehre i seee nice unit sucky firmware |
| 01:08:04 | pinkutank | get together few links that says so |
| 01:08:13 | pinkutank | offer them to work together |
| 01:08:19 | pinkutank | for a better firmware |
| 01:08:27 | DMJC | will rockbox offer image support in the firmware? |
| 01:08:33 | pinkutank | and they get toshiba logo near rockbox in boot ? |
| 01:08:41 | Kyl3 | i wish i could help but i cant code.. lol |
| 01:08:45 | preglow | http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/splash.jpg |
| 01:08:52 | pinkutank | how does it sound? I think theyll be willing to help |
| 01:09:03 | preglow | as you can see, there's still something left to be desired... |
| 01:09:12 | DMJC | the heck? |
| 01:09:14 | LinusN | preglow: yiehaa! |
| 01:09:21 | DMJC | how'd it get running on ipod? |
| 01:09:32 | Scohol | lol.. i really do think they need help.. but they seem to not want it |
| 01:09:48 | pinkutank | we can see if we email them |
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| 01:09:54 | preglow | i wonder where the bottom glitch comes from... |
| 01:09:58 | linuxstb | preglow: Nice work. At least some of your crt0.S is working OK. |
| 01:10:05 | pinkutank | if you create the text lets debate it |
| 01:10:08 | linuxstb | (if not all of it) |
| 01:10:09 | pinkutank | on the forum |
| 01:10:12 | pinkutank | perfect it |
| 01:10:13 | pinkutank | and send |
| 01:10:26 | preglow | linuxstb: let's not jump to conclusions here, if everything was ok, it wouldn't look like that :) |
| 01:10:31 | preglow | besides, i haven't done much at all |
| 01:10:31 | Scohol | you guys aware of the www.mygigabeat.com website |
| 01:10:50 | pinkutank | not me |
| 01:10:52 | pinkutank | looking atm |
| 01:10:58 | pinkutank | I'm always dap horny |
| 01:11:14 | pinkutank | hmm I wonder if thats where the real life libido goes |
| 01:11:20 | preglow | think i'll just comment away some of my crt0.S work and see if it even makes any difference |
| 01:11:37 | Scohol | anyway.. first we need a decent contact at toshiba |
| 01:11:45 | DMJC | so get your girlfriend to hold an ipod while you have sex |
| 01:11:54 | DMJC | ? |
| 01:12:06 | * | amiconn wonders whether this shot is good enough for creating a win32 sim background for the nano |
| 01:12:34 | * | preglow wonders why people need bitmaps in the sims at all... |
| 01:12:51 | preglow | DMJC: i just might once i actually get it working |
| 01:13:01 | amiconn | Well, mostly in order to mark the button mappings |
| 01:13:23 | amiconn | One day I'll add clickable buttons... |
| 01:13:44 | preglow | amiconn: anywho, i can get you a better photo than that for the sim |
| 01:15:53 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 01:15:58 | pinkutank | no dmjc |
| 01:16:21 | dropandho | so is it worth polling the devs to get the blocker bugs updated on the wiki? |
| 01:16:22 | pinkutank | i was talkin about casual libido, im a rather casually asexual person |
| 01:16:23 | amiconn | This glitch is strange, it's a somehow enlarged rockbox logo |
| 01:16:30 | pinkutank | but this is no social discussion |
| 01:16:39 | pinkutank | + ipod doesnt catch me one bit |
| 01:17:22 | pinkutank | Scohol, I think if you can find a english speaking japanese person |
| 01:17:27 | pinkutank | that is willng to work as a dev |
| 01:17:28 | preglow | amiconn: seems like something walked the bitmap with too large a stride |
| 01:17:39 | pinkutank | he'll work through all the bugs like a landmover :D |
| 01:18:03 | amiconn | It rather seems the target stride was larger, otherwise it would be shrunk instead of enlarged |
| 01:18:23 | preglow | ahh, yes |
| 01:19:01 | amiconn | It's also very strange that the left & right part have each other line shifted sideways by one pixel, but the middle part has not |
| 01:19:18 | Scohol | anyway.. i just woken up.. and seems like this is what ill be doing today.. |
| 01:19:44 | Scohol | but for now im going to have a shower and breakfast.. so i don't seem so hungover from last night :) |
| 01:19:50 | pinkutank | if you do the letter soon |
| 01:19:51 | LinusN | dropandho: you can start with trying to reproduce the bugs on that page, to see if they are still there |
| 01:19:56 | pinkutank | send me once youre |
| 01:19:56 | preglow | amiconn: the garbage differs each time i boot |
| 01:19:58 | pinkutank | done |
| 01:20:01 | pinkutank | Ill polish |
| 01:20:16 | Scohol | ok. |
| 01:20:18 | LinusN | dropandho: especially the "missing voice file" bug, i suspect that it is fixed |
| 01:20:31 | preglow | amiconn: nah, not each time |
| 01:21:03 | pinkutank | I think boot things are going to the wrong place, like to the video instead of another c that will output it to the screen |
| 01:21:05 | dropandho | Linus- got it...thanks for the help! |
| 01:21:07 | pinkutank | a wild guess yeehaw :P |
| 01:21:17 | dropandho | Linus- just wanna make certain everything is a green light! |
| 01:21:23 | preglow | but currently i don't do much but clear bss and ibss, copy iram, set up stack, then jump to main |
| 01:21:27 | preglow | doesn't sound like it's enough to me |
| 01:22:23 | LinusN | preglow: do a small test to see that .data is correctly loaded |
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| 01:23:13 | preglow | LinusN: well, isn't the image in itself evidence of that? |
| 01:23:16 | preglow | no, that might be const, yes |
| 01:23:19 | preglow | .text |
| 01:23:41 | amiconn | const is .rodata |
| 01:23:57 | LinusN | preglow: afaik, .data isn't included in the .bin file |
| 01:24:05 | amiconn | huh? |
| 01:24:32 | LinusN | that's why you need .datacopy |
| 01:24:36 | amiconn | Nope |
| 01:24:44 | amiconn | .data is included in the bin |
| 01:24:46 | LinusN | good |
| 01:24:57 | amiconn | datacopy is only there for rom-based execution |
| 01:25:08 | amiconn | ...since it has to be copied from rom to ram |
| 01:25:43 | preglow | but ok, i'll just put in a couple of printfs and see what happens |
| 01:25:43 | lamed | I'm done making the usb charger cable... now a second voltage check and the scary part... |
| 01:25:55 | XavierGr | hi lamed |
| 01:26:09 | lamed | now you'r back...?! |
| 01:26:14 | XavierGr | yyou wanted to ask me somethings? |
| 01:26:20 | XavierGr | erm yes... I was sleeping |
| 01:27:16 | lamed | i wanted to ask about usb2, i've read you've checked and the usb charger won't work as a usb2 if i'll cut the data cables. do you know why? |
| 01:27:23 | lamed | or was it found incorrect...? |
| 01:27:31 | XavierGr | http://www.misticriver.net/photos/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=2 |
| 01:27:32 | LinusN | i'm surprised that .data is included in the binary |
| 01:27:39 | XavierGr | check this schema for help |
| 01:28:00 | XavierGr | lamed: in my first attmemp I cut both voltage and data lines |
| 01:28:20 | lamed | (what's missing in your scheme is where red and black lines go... i already know that but it's missing there) |
| 01:28:25 | XavierGr | the result was that the unit supported only USB 1.1 speeds. |
| 01:28:25 | LinusN | the ram builds link with the datacopy at the same address as .data |
| 01:28:41 | lamed | xaviergr: how good have you solderd them back? |
| 01:28:57 | LinusN | but afaik, it is the copy that gets included by objcopy −−binary |
| 01:29:29 | preglow | hah! |
| 01:29:31 | lamed | (ok... i'm ready... should i connect the power or the data first... ahhh) |
| 01:29:46 | XavierGr | lamed: If you fiddle only with the voltage lines a normal soldering technique will do its job |
| 01:30:02 | lamed | ok... data is ok. |
| 01:30:26 | XavierGr | lamed: but if you cut the data lines you must be sure that the ohm impedance will be very low to make it work at USB 2.0 sppeds |
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| 01:30:57 | XavierGr | oh hi thegeek |
| 01:31:07 | XavierGr | about your adui problem... |
| 01:31:15 | XavierGr | did you fixed it in the end? |
| 01:31:15 | lamed | (xaviergr: no, i ment when you've tried to make a short cable. could it be that you have solderd a ,, how do you call that part that connects 3 lines, instead of just soldering line to itself? |
| 01:31:33 | amiconn | LinusN: yes, but as you say yourself, the copy is identical to .data itself for ram builds |
| 01:31:47 | * | amiconn wonders why LinusN wonders about .data |
| 01:31:49 | pinkutank | ok lamed turns out I told you the truth :) |
| 01:32:18 | pinkutank | I know some guys I can ask about doing a low ohm connection if you want |
| 01:32:25 | XavierGr | lamed: to solder the voltage lines (and to make it more stable) I used a small pcb breadboard 3*3 holes |
| 01:32:25 | LinusN | amiconn: because preglow wanted to tweak the lds file to not include datacopy |
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| 01:33:11 | XavierGr | pcb breadboard=a board with dots that you can solder stuff on it. (you can break it and make it as small as you want) |
| 01:33:14 | amiconn | LinusN: There is nothing to tweak. He doesn't need a datacopy routine as long as he doesn't plan to flash his ipod with rockbox |
| 01:33:17 | | Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 01:33:18 | pinkutank | xavier he is trying to conserve as much as possible |
| 01:33:46 | XavierGr | lamed: you can find those boards on electronics workshops |
| 01:33:49 | preglow | http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/wootwoot.jpg |
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| 01:34:11 | LinusN | amiconn: but if he tweaks the lds file to not put a data copy in readonly mem, the data will not be copied into the binary by objcopy |
| 01:34:29 | LinusN | preglow: ninja! |
| 01:34:36 | preglow | agreed |
| 01:34:39 | preglow | it's a threading problem |
| 01:35:01 | preglow | something's broken with my threading, that's for sure |
| 01:35:01 | amiconn | LinusN: crt0.S, coldfire: lines 436..439, SH1: lines 587..590 |
| 01:35:11 | preglow | all i did was add a printf, which i never even saw, and a sleep() call |
| 01:35:14 | lamed | xaviergr, i already know everything you'r talking about... i'm just asking why do you think it didn't worked with the shortend/ solderd cable? what's the diffrance from soldering it at the tips? -only a mere e.m. field. or is it the ohm? |
| 01:35:18 | preglow | i'm willing to bet that's what made it work now |
| 01:35:51 | pinkutank | lamed |
| 01:35:52 | LinusN | amiconn: do you know at all what i'm talking about? |
| 01:35:54 | pinkutank | it is the ohm |
| 01:35:59 | San | what is the rockbox firmware written in? |
| 01:35:59 | XavierGr | lamed: you can skip the pcb part if you want. I just used this to make it more easy |
| 01:36:02 | San | C? |
| 01:36:04 | pinkutank | if you do a messy ocnnection |
| 01:36:12 | pinkutank | you get more resistance |
| 01:36:17 | pinkutank | killing the data rate |
| 01:36:21 | amiconn | preglow: Hehe, with the flash disk icon in the upper right corner :) |
| 01:36:33 | preglow | amiconn: haha, so that's what that was |
| 01:36:48 | pinkutank | but if you kinda braid the two together, and dip them in silver based solder |
| 01:36:54 | XavierGr | pinkutank: though a little more resistance in voltage line shouldn't matter. |
| 01:36:57 | pinkutank | there should be no problem at all with ohm |
| 01:36:59 | lamed | pinkutank: but you get waaay less ohm because you shortend the cable for like 50 cm! |
| 01:37:11 | pinkutank | oh yes youre shoretning |
| 01:37:19 | pinkutank | i forgot that |
| 01:37:22 | XavierGr | Ohm impedance matters on the data cables. That's why I didn't cut those |
| 01:37:44 | XavierGr | lamed what you want exactly? |
| 01:37:50 | pinkutank | I'm not really familiar with impedance , i gotta study to answer from this point on |
| 01:37:58 | pinkutank | he wants to shorten usb cavle |
| 01:37:59 | pinkutank | nle |
| 01:38:01 | XavierGr | a shortened USB 2.0 charge/sync cable? |
| 01:38:02 | pinkutank | ble |
| 01:38:07 | amiconn | LinusN: Not really... My point is that a datacopy routine is unnecessary for ram-based rockbox |
| 01:38:13 | pinkutank | dont offer him a boxwave |
| 01:38:15 | pinkutank | :) |
| 01:38:18 | linuxstb | preglow: That's a nice photo. Has Rockbox crashed, or is it still running? |
| 01:38:29 | preglow | still running, backlight on and all |
| 01:38:30 | amiconn | The current linker scripts handle that, I don't see the need to change them for ipod |
| 01:38:33 | preglow | so probably crashed |
| 01:38:38 | amiconn | (except the addresses itself) |
| 01:38:51 | thegeek | XavierGr : yes, I fixed it |
| 01:38:52 | LinusN | amiconn: yes it is unnecessary |
| 01:39:00 | preglow | linuxstb: unless, of course, you haven't fixed backlight in main rockbox code yet |
| 01:39:01 | linuxstb | Yes, the app.lds is identical apart from the addresses. |
| 01:39:05 | thegeek | I thought the problem was the audio connector itself |
| 01:39:14 | thegeek | and LinusN actually sent me a new one(thanks;) |
| 01:39:14 | linuxstb | preglow: I thought I did. |
| 01:39:23 | thegeek | but after soldering in the new one, the problem persisted |
| 01:39:27 | lamed | haha. i can be even more suprising on that! and tell you i just connected my player, first data and now power, it recharged for a second, then it stopped, disconnected, now it's fully connected to the usb charger cable but it dosen't recharge nor thinks it's connected! and i can even tell you why it happend: because i have a long wier connected to the computer so i won't have to work my way to the usb on the computer! |
| 01:39:28 | preglow | linuxstb: it's probably broken, then, like i said, something's bogus with the threading |
| 01:39:32 | thegeek | so I poked around for a while |
| 01:39:40 | thegeek | and found that bad resistor |
| 01:39:51 | linuxstb | I wonder why the screen isn't completely cleared. |
| 01:39:58 | XavierGr | which resistor it was? |
| 01:39:58 | thegeek | it looked fine, but I tried to just reheat the solder connection, and it has worked perfectly ever since;) |
| 01:40:01 | amiconn | preglow: The flash disk icon is the virtual 'disk led' for Ondio, since the Ondion doesn't have a disk led |
| 01:40:02 | thegeek | hmm |
| 01:40:04 | thegeek | sl5 |
| 01:40:05 | thegeek | I think |
| 01:40:11 | preglow | amiconn: no led for nano either |
| 01:40:20 | thegeek | hang on |
| 01:40:21 | pinkutank | lamed dont scare us |
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| 01:40:23 | pinkutank | please? |
| 01:40:28 | XavierGr | http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/back.jpg |
| 01:40:33 | XavierGr | where thegeek? |
| 01:40:37 | thegeek | the other side |
| 01:40:37 | XavierGr | can you show me? |
| 01:40:46 | thegeek | hmm |
| 01:40:52 | amiconn | Iiuc TiMiD will use that for the remote status bar on H1x0 as well (disk icon this time), and it will probably also be useful on h300 |
| 01:40:54 | thegeek | is there a scan without the lcd? |
| 01:41:03 | XavierGr | you removed the LCD? |
| 01:41:08 | thegeek | It's right behind the lcd in the upper left here : http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/front.jpg |
| 01:41:08 | thegeek | no |
| 01:41:13 | thegeek | you dont have to |
| 01:41:18 | thegeek | I just lifter up the black padding |
| 01:41:26 | thegeek | but |
| 01:41:27 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes, the backlight code is in firmware/backlight.c, so it should work. But I haven't tested it. |
| 01:41:37 | pinkutank | the geek what did you solder, I couldnt catch the first message |
| 01:41:46 | thegeek | i found my problem, because the sound only "dropped" when I bent the pcb |
| 01:41:49 | XavierGr | http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/naked_front.jpg |
| 01:41:52 | XavierGr | here? |
| 01:42:00 | thegeek | I mean, bent it in that corner |
| 01:42:08 | thegeek | ah |
| 01:42:11 | thegeek | l5 and l6 there |
| 01:42:22 | thegeek | right under the audio connector |
| 01:42:25 | thegeek | upper left on the image |
| 01:42:28 | lamed | hehe... still fiddeling around the cable... the green light is off, but wps battery indicator reports a charger... i guess it's about 3-4 voltage then. |
| 01:42:50 | thegeek | I actually changed the audio connector twice |
| 01:42:58 | thegeek | before I gave up on the connector itself |
| 01:43:11 | thegeek | I then soldered on another connector, using wired |
| 01:43:13 | thegeek | *wires |
| 01:43:15 | XavierGr | you mean L% and L^ resistor? |
| 01:43:20 | XavierGr | L5 and L6 |
| 01:43:22 | thegeek | l5 and l6 |
| 01:43:23 | thegeek | ;) |
| 01:43:41 | thegeek | but unless your sound is bad when you bend that corner |
| 01:43:46 | thegeek | .. |
| 01:43:53 | thegeek | what exactly is your problem XavierGr? |
| 01:43:53 | preglow | bah |
| 01:43:59 | preglow | can't see what's wrong with threads either |
| 01:44:07 | XavierGr | well the sound gets duller when I poke the connector |
| 01:44:08 | preglow | all i've done is implement context store and load, and those look right |
| 01:44:12 | thegeek | mhm |
| 01:44:20 | preglow | did a disassembly, and gcc does use scratch regs where it should |
| 01:44:30 | thegeek | my problem occured when I dropped the player with the headphone plug in |
| 01:44:35 | thegeek | it landed on the plug itself |
| 01:44:56 | XavierGr | no mine started this without notice |
| 01:44:56 | thegeek | I guess all the force was transferred into the pcb itself |
| 01:45:02 | thegeek | and broke the solder connection |
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| 01:45:22 | thegeek | if you have a solder iron, and know how to use it, you can just try to reheat the connections |
| 01:45:49 | XavierGr | i will do |
| 01:45:56 | thegeek | just be damn careful, especially around the smd parts |
| 01:46:05 | thegeek | ;) |
| 01:46:12 | XavierGr | I just wait for Slasheri to tell me the hardware mod fix for the remote ticking issues |
| 01:46:13 | lamed | dang! i'm not getting any recharge!!! |
| 01:46:24 | thegeek | ;) |
| 01:46:55 | XavierGr | lamed: did you checked with a multimeter? |
| 01:48:28 | lamed | xaviergr: ever came across that? -data isn't connected, i connect the usb charger dc solely, it charges for a sec and shots off. the wps battery indicator shows recharging. the data cable works o.k |
| 01:49:28 | lamed | multimeter: exactly 5.0 volts. |
| 01:49:38 | XavierGr | strange!! |
| 01:50:05 | lamed | i know! :((( |
| 01:50:11 | lamed | hope it's just my computer |
| 01:50:34 | lamed | the other guess is that it's because of the 220 Volts israeli power supply |
| 01:50:57 | amiconn | USB ports are (usually) overcurrent protected |
| 01:51:05 | lamed | it is follish to think that way... but maybe there's a small diffrance. |
| 01:51:27 | TiMiD | amiconn: removing statusbar and associated, gain : 1.5k |
| 01:51:29 | lamed | (and i've lost usb mouse :( |
| 01:51:34 | amiconn | Not all of them though, but a properly implemented USB port allows to draw at max. 100 mA before it shuts down |
| 01:51:56 | amiconn | A device has to request more before it is allowed to draw more than that |
| 01:52:03 | preglow | what does '...' mean in a disassembly? |
| 01:52:14 | amiconn | The maximum is 500 mA |
| 01:52:18 | preglow | amiconn: i've never seen an usb driver that actually implements that |
| 01:52:58 | lamed | weeee!!! you won't believe that. |
| 01:52:58 | amiconn | It's in the standards, and I believe at least a fraction of the existing devices do it properly |
| 01:53:17 | amiconn | Of course there are ports on PC mainboards that aren't current limited at all |
| 01:53:44 | amiconn | With those you can easily fry the mainboard, the power supply, or both, if you aren't careful |
| 01:53:56 | preglow | amiconn: no, they usually are current limited, but not per port |
| 01:53:57 | lamed | amiconn: guess my p3 850 old computer's two usb's are sharing somehow the same powersource. disconnected the mouse and iriver shows recharginf! |
| 01:54:22 | lamed | connected: no recharging... |
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| 01:54:56 | linuxstb | Wow, someone's been busy: http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~tmal/rockbox/ |
| 01:55:04 | preglow | i'm having a look at the disassembly of switch_thread here, but some of the interesting parts are masked by '...' lines... |
| 01:55:20 | lamed | all those voltage gain and losses on the data cable really freaks the player off. |
| 01:55:30 | preglow | i guess some of it is a literal pool, but the return instruction isn't there either... |
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| 01:56:18 | amiconn | preglow: YOu're using objdump for disassembling? |
| 01:56:25 | preglow | amiconn: aye |
| 01:56:32 | preglow | that's all i have |
| 01:56:57 | amiconn | objdump isn't very reliable for disassembling. Had that several times with coldfire |
| 01:57:01 | lamed | it's the second time it's hung... screen scrolls and reacts to long stop button. |
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| 01:58:09 | preglow | amiconn: well, it's all i've got unless i'm going to start doing it by hand |
| 01:58:10 | amiconn | For SH1 we have an alternative disassembler, so I compared objdump and sh2d for sh1 code. |
| 01:58:10 | LinusN | -D and -z are useful switches to objdump |
| 01:58:24 | LinusN | and -s |
| 01:58:42 | preglow | man |
| 01:58:50 | preglow | switch_thread doesn't work properly for arm |
| 01:59:00 | amiconn | The bad thing about objdump is that sometimes the disassembled instruction is just plain wrong |
| 01:59:15 | LinusN | amiconn: for coldfire, yes |
| 01:59:31 | preglow | it should do a mov pc, lr |
| 01:59:34 | preglow | but it doesn't |
| 01:59:48 | preglow | it saves a local copy of lr on stack and uses that instead of the one from the thread context |
| 01:59:54 | preglow | no fucking wonder this doesn't work properly |
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| 02:01:22 | amiconn | LinusN: I knew about -D , that's always necessary with .bin input. Didn't try -z or -s so far |
| 02:01:32 | amiconn | preglow: listing? |
| 02:01:37 | preglow | amiconn: gimme a sec |
| 02:02:19 | preglow | http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/threadlist |
| 02:02:21 | amiconn | LinusN: Seems like the dirchange code isn't completely there on archos, only the playlist parts |
| 02:02:32 | LinusN | ah yes |
| 02:02:44 | preglow | the ldmia at address 9c is the one that does the context save |
| 02:02:50 | preglow | the lr i fetch from there contains the return address |
| 02:02:55 | preglow | but as you see, it's never used |
| 02:03:14 | preglow | sorry, context _store_ |
| 02:03:17 | preglow | argh |
| 02:03:19 | preglow | LOAD |
| 02:03:52 | pinkutank | lamed were 220 too |
| 02:03:55 | pinkutank | its not foolish |
| 02:03:59 | pinkutank | its better than 110 |
| 02:04:14 | pinkutank | us is the only country that is going against the change |
| 02:04:22 | lamed | i wrote foolish? |
| 02:04:39 | lamed | (can't scroll...no mouse) |
| 02:04:43 | lamed | hehe |
| 02:05:14 | amiconn | preglow: Iiuc ldmia at 0x9c should be the context load and stmia at 0x38 the store (?) |
| 02:05:30 | lamed | this usb cable suck. hope it works better on other computer. |
| 02:05:36 | lamed | linusn: viewed my patch? |
| 02:05:57 | lamed | (ps my computer has usb 1) |
| 02:05:58 | preglow | amiconn: yews |
| 02:06:02 | preglow | yes, even |
| 02:06:07 | pinkutank | I'm going to build a wood purple heart dock witth a grey usb cable once I buy me a h340 |
| 02:06:26 | lamed | perverted. |
| 02:06:44 | pinkutank | I'm going to carve it out |
| 02:06:50 | lamed | xaviergr: here? |
| 02:06:53 | pinkutank | of a sample |
| 02:07:00 | pinkutank | Ive got ssomehwre around here |
| 02:07:17 | pinkutank | I'm not the one to use rainforest wood otherwise |
| 02:07:23 | lamed | pink: make me one. |
| 02:07:29 | lamed | how old r u? |
| 02:07:36 | pinkutank | 18 |
| 02:07:44 | lamed | young. |
| 02:07:56 | lamed | =) |
| 02:07:59 | pinkutank | grumpy like an old man tho |
| 02:08:16 | LinusN | lamed: which patch was it? |
| 02:08:17 | lamed | religious? |
| 02:08:19 | pinkutank | always going on about the current youth and how damned the world is |
| 02:08:22 | lamed | screen scroll! |
| 02:08:42 | dropandho | what bout it?! |
| 02:08:42 | pinkutank | no, have my own stuff or two, all open ended |
| 02:08:48 | LinusN | ah, you are the guy who shouts loud in the mailing lists |
| 02:09:06 | pinkutank | hahah he was very excite daobut his patch |
| 02:09:35 | XavierGr | lamed : i am here |
| 02:09:45 | lamed | hmmm. that was capital letters. haven't thought of that. |
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| 02:10:17 | lamed | xaviergr: great. i'd just wanted to say thanks. your cable sucks. ;) |
| 02:10:30 | XavierGr | I think I am going to do the same with my battery_benchmark plugin, as Lamed did. |
| 02:10:44 | preglow | amiconn: have you so far just been hoping switch_thread didn't save too much context on the stack, or? |
| 02:10:50 | lamed | linusn: would you agree to delete those posts and i'll repost? |
| 02:11:03 | XavierGr | well it works for me, though it causes some problems If i plug and unplug the charge jack while connected. |
| 02:11:07 | pinkutank | lol lamed youre threading on dangerous ground if there is ground at all |
| 02:11:08 | LinusN | typing in all caps is usually regarded as shouting |
| 02:11:28 | LinusN | lamed: i can't delete them, we have all received the emails already |
| 02:11:46 | lamed | i'm doomed. |
| 02:11:56 | LinusN | lamed: i haven't taken a close look at the patch yet |
| 02:12:12 | amiconn | preglow: It used to be that way back in SH1-only times. There we had no conditional jump in load_context, and the return address was forged for the new thread |
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| 02:12:54 | amiconn | This was the reason why switch_thread stopped working on coldfire with stack checking enabled, because then gcc saved one register too much |
| 02:13:00 | XavierGr | and lamed, it is not my mod |
| 02:13:02 | lamed | i've wanted to talk to you about an improved scroll_thread and some parts of the other lcd driver functions. |
| 02:13:08 | XavierGr | other people have tried this before this |
| 02:13:19 | lamed | xaviergr: i know. i'm just kidding. |
| 02:13:20 | preglow | amiconn: ok, so what can i do? just write it all in asm? |
| 02:13:22 | amiconn | Therefore I adapted the conditional jump method in load_context (from the gmini scheduler) |
| 02:13:26 | LinusN | lamed: improved scroll thread? |
| 02:13:30 | amiconn | That solved the problem |
| 02:13:55 | lamed | linusn: was i talking to linuxstb before..? |
| 02:14:01 | lamed | so confusing |
| 02:14:20 | amiconn | I can't spot the exact point where the arm scheduler goes wrong |
| 02:14:30 | pinkutank | monkeys |
| 02:14:36 | pinkutank | oh yes |
| 02:14:38 | amiconn | Of course I'm no arm asm specialist, but it looks quite right to me |
| 02:14:41 | preglow | amiconn: anyway, if you ask me, depending on compiler behaviour like this is bad, bad, bad |
| 02:14:43 | speed123 | JUST Want to say i guess i found a 5th part different from the H320 US and the H320 International Version ... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents You can see a part missing in the middle right on the botton |
| 02:14:45 | pinkutank | I should draw a monkey in my wps |
| 02:15:02 | hshah | now y wud u want to do that? |
| 02:15:03 | amiconn | preglow: We don't. We used to. |
| 02:15:13 | lamed | anyways, my patch made me think about one of the only problems that there are with right to left languages. |
| 02:16:19 | LinusN | speed123: ah |
| 02:16:36 | LinusN | speed123: care to edit the pics? |
| 02:16:39 | lamed | they are both left alignd and showing the left part instead of the right part. |
| 02:16:50 | amiconn | preglow: I would like to know what sl, fp, ip and lr are. sp and pc are obvious |
| 02:17:11 | speed123 | well i could .. but i am eighter registred or something else |
| 02:17:21 | preglow | amiconn: fp = frame pointer, the other i have no idea, everyone use them as ordinary registers |
| 02:17:34 | LinusN | i assume lr is the link register? |
| 02:17:38 | preglow | amiconn: they're just aliases to the plain old rxx |
| 02:17:39 | preglow | LinusN: correct |
| 02:17:50 | amiconn | okay |
| 02:17:51 | preglow | btw, the ifp thing i arm, isn't it? |
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| 02:18:20 | lamed | >>Restarting<<< |
| 02:18:22 | LinusN | speed123: then register :-) |
| 02:18:29 | amiconn | this ldmia at the end is nifty - register restore and rts in one instruction... |
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| 02:18:47 | pinkutank | is there any signifacant differences between us and intl h300 |
| 02:19:33 | preglow | amiconn: it is very nifty |
| 02:19:35 | speed123 | ok i am on the way. well i just want to thank you for all your work, i will edit the pics |
| 02:19:39 | preglow | what the hell |
| 02:19:45 | preglow | ifp port seems to use my threading code |
| 02:19:50 | preglow | and he claims threading works |
| 02:20:08 | preglow | no, he does not say threading works... |
| 02:20:42 | preglow | we're going to need some ARM define, all this checking for specific cores with arms in them is going to be a bit tedious |
| 02:20:59 | | Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 02:21:13 | LinusN | pinkutank: i don't know any differences except for the usb-otg |
| 02:21:20 | amiconn | preglow: equivalent to CPU_COLDFIRE |
| 02:21:59 | preglow | amiconn: yeah, probably |
| 02:22:23 | preglow | but hell, i have no idea how to fix this apart from writing switch_thread in asm |
| 02:22:39 | amiconn | I don't see what's wrong |
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| 02:23:17 | preglow | hrmm |
| 02:23:20 | preglow | now that you mention |
| 02:23:25 | preglow | it should work, shouldn't it |
| 02:23:31 | preglow | the stack is swapped, the correct lr should be saved |
| 02:25:02 | LinusN | it's nice to have a debugger... :-) |
| 02:25:23 | speed123 | ok Linus, I edited the pics .. how i upragde it? Should i host it on my sever and change the link (img) or what? thx |
| 02:25:58 | amiconn | preglow: I wonder why the initial stmdb saves a different set of registers than the final ldmia rstores? Or is that because I'm not familiar with arm? |
| 02:26:21 | XavierGr | Linus: When I resolder some connetctions, which things need to be carefull? |
| 02:26:28 | preglow | hope i can use this fellow's interrupt code |
| 02:26:35 | XavierGr | smd components that is |
| 02:26:36 | LinusN | speed123: no, you update the attachment in the wiki |
| 02:27:39 | preglow | amiconn: i do understand why lr gets placed in pc, but not why ip is placed in sp |
| 02:28:27 | amiconn | Yes, lr -> pc makes sense for returning |
| 02:28:48 | amiconn | ..as lr seems to be the equivalent of SH's pr register |
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| 02:29:26 | preglow | yes |
| 02:29:29 | amiconn | Ah, storing ip instead of sp makes sense as well |
| 02:29:34 | preglow | why? |
| 02:29:40 | amiconn | There is a mov ip,sp above it |
| 02:29:54 | preglow | ah, right |
| 02:29:56 | preglow | for fixing the stack again |
| 02:29:57 | amiconn | ..and if this wouldn't be done this way, the stored sp would be wrong |
| 02:30:08 | preglow | i thought the caller offseted the stack again |
| 02:30:14 | amiconn | ...because sp changes itself during the instruction |
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| 02:30:20 | LinusN | XavierGr: well, don't use too much solder |
| 02:30:38 | XavierGr | what about solder temrature? |
| 02:30:58 | amiconn | But why is one more register saved than restored? |
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| 02:31:07 | XavierGr | and overall time that solder iron tip will touch the surface? |
| 02:31:25 | preglow | as short as you can and still melt the solder |
| 02:31:42 | XavierGr | ok thanks |
| 02:31:51 | preglow | if the temp was right, you'll have a nice even surface on the solder point afterwards |
| 02:31:58 | LinusN | XavierGr: i use a pretty high temperature, and don't stay with the tip very long, but that's often up to personal preference and experience |
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| 02:33:51 | preglow | man, ifp uses a custom dsp, good luck to this fellow in implementing codecs |
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| 02:34:48 | speed123 | Linus: CHanged the text but cant upload (attach) the pictures, get the same error: Topic save error |
| 02:34:48 | speed123 | During save of file Main.IriverH3XXHardwareComponents an error was found by the version control system. Please notify your Rockbox administrator. |
| 02:34:49 | speed123 | Save attachment error /usr/bin/ci -q -l -m%COMMENT|U% -t-none -w%USERNAME|S% %FILENAME|F% |
| 02:34:49 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK speed123 |
| 02:34:49 | speed123 | ci: missing message for -m option |
| 02:34:49 | speed123 | |
| 02:34:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 02:34:50 | speed123 | |
| 02:34:52 | speed123 | Go back in your browser and save your changes locally. |
| 02:35:17 | LinusN | speed123: don't leave the comment field empty |
| 02:35:31 | speed123 | ok |
| 02:35:36 | preglow | but anyhow, the fact that this guy has file browsing and keys working, more or less implies he's got threading working |
| 02:35:37 | amiconn | preglow: You did include the while (num_sleepers == num_threads) part, didn't you? |
| 02:35:50 | preglow | amiconn: there's nothing in there, no |
| 02:36:01 | amiconn | Yes, but the loop is there? |
| 02:36:21 | preglow | well, yes, i run straight cvs version |
| 02:36:55 | amiconn | If so, the scheduler will enter an endless loop as soon as all threads went to 'sleep', and since you did not yet implement interrupts, there is nothing to wake them up again... |
| 02:37:40 | LinusN | speed123: looks good |
| 02:38:08 | preglow | true... |
| 02:38:37 | amiconn | You can comment out the whole while (num_sleepers == num_threads) loop for a test |
| 02:38:47 | amiconn | It's only there for saving energy |
| 02:38:59 | speed123 | thx |
| 02:39:14 | LinusN | speed123: thank *you* for updating |
| 02:39:19 | amiconn | ...which in turn can only work with a cpu sleep instruction in place, and of course interrupts |
| 02:40:14 | speed123 | well i am glad i could do something instead of just donating, i am proud of my H320 and i hope to get rockbox on there before it dies. DOES the Ipod plugin you guys are working on is easier to realise? |
| 02:41:05 | preglow | ipod plugin? |
| 02:41:14 | LinusN | the ipod port is a completely different thing |
| 02:41:27 | speed123 | ok |
| 02:41:28 | hshah | fuck its cold outside! |
| 02:41:32 | speed123 | it is |
| 02:41:39 | preglow | we've got several people working on ipod support, and specs are somewhat available |
| 02:41:43 | preglow | which is not the case for h3x0 |
| 02:41:50 | hshah | -3 here (coventry, uk) |
| 02:42:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:42:22 | * | preglow hugs amiconn |
| 02:42:40 | speed123 | warm + 3 here (Cologne, germany) |
| 02:43:11 | amiconn | preglow: It's working? |
| 02:43:12 | preglow | amiconn: i wouldn't have guessed that in a good while, thanks for sparing me the trouble |
| 02:43:21 | preglow | amiconn: indeed it is, complete with blinking battery icon and all |
| 02:43:23 | amiconn | Yay! |
| 02:43:47 | hshah | went outside to get a can of coke from a shop 15 secs walk from me, got bk 5 mins ago and im still shivering... guess whose keeping the heating on all night |
| 02:44:02 | amiconn | Stumbled across that when lookin gat lines 0x18..0x20 of the disassembly |
| 02:44:19 | preglow | but no, backlight still doesn't turn off |
| 02:44:19 | preglow | heh |
| 02:44:24 | preglow | but threads are obviously working |
| 02:44:39 | amiconn | Now, get interrupts working ;) |
| 02:44:51 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 02:45:00 | amiconn | Does arm have a sleep instruction? |
| 02:45:12 | preglow | yup, i think i'll steal the good tomek malesinski's code |
| 02:45:25 | LinusN | holy moses, i just loaded the current cvs to my h120, doesn't look good |
| 02:45:40 | amiconn | So, if he has interrupts, his threading should work ok... |
| 02:45:59 | preglow | amiconn: not as such, no, but it does have a sleeping mode for the cop, so should for the main cpu as well |
| 02:46:14 | amiconn | What is this cop, btw? |
| 02:46:24 | preglow | amiconn: the portalplayer chips have two arm cores |
| 02:46:29 | preglow | amiconn: the other one is referred to as the cop |
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| 02:46:33 | speed123 | Linus: Did you made a brik out of it? Well i dont know how save it is to do all this great work or if you can recover or s.th. |
| 02:46:35 | amiconn | ah |
| 02:46:35 | preglow | as in coprocessor |
| 02:46:54 | preglow | LinusN: how? |
| 02:47:00 | amiconn | Is there a difference between the two? |
| 02:47:07 | amiconn | (other than the name) |
| 02:47:13 | LinusN | the font is wrong in the browser |
| 02:47:41 | preglow | amiconn: nah, not much, specwise they're the same, have separate caches, etc |
| 02:47:54 | preglow | LinusN: how'd that happen? |
| 02:48:19 | LinusN | i guess that the new statusbar code did it |
| 02:49:58 | speed123 | well, take care, good night and thanks 4 everything. |
| 02:50:25 | | Part speed123 |
| 02:50:54 | amiconn | wah |
| 02:54:56 | preglow | hah, checked my ipod again now |
| 02:55:02 | preglow | it's hanged at Shutting down :P |
| 02:55:03 | preglow | how cute of it |
| 02:56:10 | TiMiD | LinusN: are you talking about the filetree ? |
| 02:56:15 | LinusN | yes |
| 02:56:42 | LinusN | it draws the filenames with the internal font |
| 02:57:06 | TiMiD | because I havn't changed neither tree.c, nor list.c |
| 02:57:26 | TiMiD | I test |
| 02:58:20 | TiMiD | hmm there is obviously a problem:) |
| 02:59:36 | TiMiD | woooops |
| 02:59:57 | LinusN | textarea_clear |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:01 | TiMiD | there is a problem in textarea.c which is used by many of my apps |
| 03:00:09 | TiMiD | hehe ;) |
| 03:00:13 | LinusN | display->setfont(FONT_SYSFIXED); |
| 03:00:16 | TiMiD | spotted at the same time :p |
| 03:00:31 | TiMiD | the question is why did I changed that |
| 03:00:32 | LinusN | i'll let you fix it |
| 03:00:52 | TiMiD | I must have been under crack or something like this |
| 03:01:14 | preglow | as long as you're not ON crack, you'll be fine |
| 03:01:36 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:02:20 | TiMiD | hehe sounds like my english is sucking more than I expected |
| 03:03:15 | TiMiD | I tend to make english sentences as if I was speaking french using the same words :( |
| 03:03:17 | preglow | probably isn't easy to write english when on crack |
| 03:03:23 | preglow | hehe |
| 03:03:38 | TiMiD | :) |
| 03:04:06 | TiMiD | since I spotted the bug, I suppose the effects must be finished |
| 03:04:20 | LinusN | i just love that french guy who used "retardation" when he meant "delay" |
| 03:05:15 | TiMiD | sounds weird to me :) |
| 03:05:24 | preglow | hahahah |
| 03:05:28 | TiMiD | I think I would have used delay |
| 03:05:38 | LinusN | or maybe he just wanted to say "rockbox is so retarded" :-) |
| 03:05:57 | preglow | well, it is, isn't it? |
| 03:05:58 | TiMiD | :) |
| 03:06:13 | TiMiD | maybe it's just the devs |
| 03:06:21 | pinkutank | oh lol |
| 03:06:22 | TiMiD | since they never sleep |
| 03:06:58 | pinkutank | ce la un petit de retardation dans le wps avec les images |
| 03:07:05 | pinkutank | that was english :P |
| 03:07:45 | preglow | what, seems a CPU_ARM define is already in place... |
| 03:08:01 | TiMiD | that wasns't french too much ... |
| 03:08:54 | TiMiD | LinusN: hehe it's magic, it works again |
| 03:09:03 | LinusN | wow! :-) |
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| 03:10:45 | preglow | do cvs changes appear on the front page before the latest build is finished now? |
| 03:11:34 | TiMiD | no |
| 03:11:38 | TiMiD | :( |
| 03:12:36 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you make any other changes (apart from bootloader/ipod.c and the thread.c bug that amiconn found)? |
| 03:12:49 | linuxstb | It's booting for me, but I don't get the file browser. |
| 03:12:59 | preglow | let's see |
| 03:13:24 | linuxstb | I get a flashing battery icon and the splash logo is still there in its entirety. |
| 03:13:45 | amiconn | reboot... |
| 03:13:47 | | Part amiconn |
| 03:13:58 | preglow | linuxstb: you've installed .rockbox dir, i take it? |
| 03:14:14 | linuxstb | Yes, I did a "make zip" followed by unzip |
| 03:14:22 | pinkutank | and timid, i know my french sucks, trying to play along thats all |
| 03:15:01 | TiMiD | pinkutank: what were you trying to say ? |
| 03:15:08 | LinusN | could someone help me locate the 1.28 korean H300 firmware? |
| 03:15:25 | pinkutank | ermm there is a bit of delay in wpss with images |
| 03:15:29 | TiMiD | because the words are definatly french, but in wrong order |
| 03:15:38 | preglow | linuxstb: i always get the dir browser here |
| 03:15:58 | pinkutank | oh |
| 03:16:07 | pinkutank | acev les images dans les wps |
| 03:16:09 | pinkutank | ? |
| 03:16:17 | pinkutank | with the images in the wps |
| 03:16:32 | TiMiD | the starting of the sentence now :) |
| 03:16:35 | preglow | linuxstb: and no, i can't see any further changes |
| 03:16:51 | TiMiD | "ce la un petit de retardation" << makes no sense :( |
| 03:16:59 | pinkutank | retardation petit ? |
| 03:17:07 | pinkutank | ce sa ? |
| 03:17:13 | pinkutank | ce sont |
| 03:17:14 | TiMiD | retardation is not a frecnh word |
| 03:17:16 | pinkutank | ? |
| 03:17:31 | pinkutank | I was just using hte above one |
| 03:17:35 | pinkutank | think of it as retard |
| 03:17:45 | pinkutank | un petit de retard |
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| 03:18:04 | pinkutank | retard cour? |
| 03:18:19 | TiMiD | "wps has a small delay with images" ? |
| 03:18:29 | TiMiD | was this the meaning ? |
| 03:18:31 | pinkutank | kind of thing , i guess |
| 03:18:40 | pinkutank | I wasnt trying to mean anything really |
| 03:18:48 | preglow | we're going to need a #rockbox-lang-discussion some time in the future ;) |
| 03:19:06 | pinkutank | that was the first setence that came in my mind |
| 03:19:13 | pinkutank | sorry preglow |
| 03:19:20 | TiMiD | but I don't get the meaning |
| 03:19:21 | preglow | no worries |
| 03:19:28 | TiMiD | fuck you preglow ^^ |
| 03:19:40 | preglow | i love you too |
| 03:19:52 | pinkutank | i wasnt trying to mean anything, I just translated as quick as I could and that came out |
| 03:19:58 | TiMiD | we will need a #rockbox-asembly-addict for you amiconn linuxstb, ... |
| 03:20:01 | preglow | let's hope his irq code works now |
| 03:20:07 | TiMiD | :) |
| 03:20:28 | TiMiD | pinkutank: but what did you translate ? |
| 03:20:37 | preglow | i'm not trying to be a meanie, i love discussing languages myself |
| 03:20:50 | TiMiD | hehe just kidding :) |
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| 03:23:37 | preglow | hmm, don't know if i want this code in crt0.S |
| 03:24:11 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 03:24:33 | pinkutank | there is a little delay in wpss with images |
| 03:24:42 | pinkutank | meaning the images were delayed |
| 03:24:45 | pinkutank | not the wps |
| 03:24:45 | preglow | hmm |
| 03:24:48 | TiMiD | ok |
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| 03:24:56 | preglow | is there any point to the splash on the nano? i barely even have time to see it |
| 03:25:09 | TiMiD | Il y a un petit temps de retard avec les images dnas le wps |
| 03:25:15 | pinkutank | btw there is no deay with images |
| 03:25:21 | pinkutank | ohhh of cours il y a |
| 03:25:24 | TiMiD | dans |
| 03:25:29 | TiMiD | :) |
| 03:25:30 | TiMiD | ok |
| 03:25:40 | pinkutank | i knew something was wrong but couldnt remember |
| 03:25:59 | | Quit Vlad0man (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:26:02 | pinkutank | and the least i know was wrong anyway |
| 03:26:34 | pinkutank | ok |
| 03:26:37 | pinkutank | have to sleep |
| 03:26:44 | pinkutank | my english is going down with me too |
| 03:26:52 | pinkutank | I meant to say rest, it came out least |
| 03:27:12 | pinkutank | knows are getting confused with nows with no apparent reason |
| 03:27:21 | TiMiD | You would have said "il y a" I would have understood |
| 03:28:22 | hshah | j'aime jouer au football... |
| 03:28:42 | TiMiD | pas moi :p |
| 03:28:47 | hshah | hmm... what other french can i remember from my gcse's 3 years ago :s |
| 03:28:53 | hshah | not me? |
| 03:28:56 | LinusN | any windows users here? |
| 03:28:57 | TiMiD | yep |
| 03:29:00 | LinusN | i need help |
| 03:29:01 | preglow | LinusN: yep |
| 03:29:01 | hshah | me |
| 03:29:06 | preglow | ahh, forget me, i'm in linux |
| 03:29:08 | hshah | ok LinusN |
| 03:29:12 | LinusN | http://service.iriver.co.kr/qk_pds_ok.asp?path=1&idx=493&p_name=H320 |
| 03:29:22 | LinusN | it unzips an exe file |
| 03:29:28 | hshah | downloading now |
| 03:29:49 | LinusN | i assume the exe file is a self-extracting archive |
| 03:29:55 | TiMiD | the bundles wps are cery cute |
| 03:30:06 | LinusN | i like iamp |
| 03:30:08 | TiMiD | I never noticed since I never look at the screen |
| 03:30:14 | hshah | dunno why the file was called *.zip, |
| 03:30:19 | hshah | with a comma on the end |
| 03:30:24 | LinusN | silly koreans |
| 03:30:31 | TiMiD | korean ... |
| 03:30:33 | preglow | TiMiD: yet you're the guy working on the gui code ;) |
| 03:30:37 | Kyl3 | lol |
| 03:30:40 | TiMiD | hehe |
| 03:30:50 | hshah | LinusN, no its not a self extracting zip file |
| 03:30:52 | TiMiD | I know where my files are so I don't need the screen ;) |
| 03:30:52 | hshah | its a program |
| 03:31:07 | Kyl3 | You guys had my hopes up. I thought that was 1.29 |
| 03:31:11 | LinusN | hshah: ah yes |
| 03:31:35 | LinusN | select a location to install it to and it will put H300.hex there |
| 03:32:14 | pinkutank | Do you guys like song rating on your wpss |
| 03:32:21 | TiMiD | iAmp is indeed very cute :) |
| 03:32:25 | hshah | www.warwickforums.co.uk/see.jpg |
| 03:32:31 | hshah | ^ see that LinusN |
| 03:32:43 | preglow | 404 |
| 03:33:08 | hshah | http://www.warwickforums.co.uk/see.JPG |
| 03:33:13 | hshah | silly windows file naming... |
| 03:33:16 | TiMiD | hehe I guess it was only for LinusN |
| 03:33:22 | hshah | yeah it was |
| 03:33:23 | LinusN | click upgrade |
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| 03:33:33 | hshah | upgrade success |
| 03:33:44 | preglow | welcome to the land of misleading |
| 03:33:45 | hshah | H300.hex |
| 03:33:47 | hshah | got that file |
| 03:33:53 | LinusN | good |
| 03:33:54 | hshah | u want me to upload it somewhere for u? |
| 03:33:59 | LinusN | yes please |
| 03:35:01 | pinkutank | where can i get i amp |
| 03:35:39 | hshah | www.warwickforums.co.uk/H300.hex |
| 03:36:00 | pinkutank | got it |
| 03:36:46 | LinusN | hshah: thanks a lot |
| 03:36:52 | hshah | nps mate |
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| 03:37:19 | TiMiD | hehe it's fun to look at my work on the real device |
| 03:37:36 | TiMiD | I will test more often from now :) |
| 03:38:01 | toolmanwill | @TiMiD : I tried the reset settings option and it didnt work, thats why i had to go thru that flashing orgy |
| 03:38:14 | TiMiD | owwwww |
| 03:38:40 | TiMiD | strange ^^ |
| 03:38:42 | toolmanwill | its all good now tho, i updated to latest bleeding with no probs now |
| 03:39:18 | hshah | "I must have been ON crack" <−−−− LOL |
| 03:40:16 | pinkutank | do you guys want song rating on wpss? |
| 03:40:26 | pinkutank | and do you want the khz and bitrate value? |
| 03:40:34 | hshah | i wudn't |
| 03:40:42 | TiMiD | I want a more cute rwps :) |
| 03:40:51 | preglow | hello kitty wps |
| 03:41:05 | hshah | i hate it when my wps does font doesn't work too well on my rwps... |
| 03:41:35 | TiMiD | hshah: oneday we will have separate fonts settings for main and remote screen |
| 03:41:45 | hshah | yeah :) |
| 03:41:50 | hshah | that would be great |
| 03:41:51 | TiMiD | but remote support is just beginning |
| 03:42:16 | hshah | the main thing for me is that my remote now shows the track and file tree |
| 03:42:27 | hshah | i don't really mind atm that its not as nice as my wps |
| 03:42:29 | TiMiD | for me the most important was the filetree |
| 03:42:45 | hshah | yeah, that too, coz i know what most of my songs are called |
| 03:43:14 | TiMiD | wps is also important, bunt when if you use earphones you should be able to know what is playing ;) |
| 03:43:16 | hshah | plus the patches made earlier were getting out of date so quickly i got tired of them... lol |
| 03:43:19 | pinkutank | what kind of a cutw wps do you want |
| 03:43:27 | pinkutank | mine is definitely not cute |
| 03:43:29 | pinkutank | but |
| 03:43:37 | hshah | www.warwickforums.co.uk/hshah_dump.bmp |
| 03:43:42 | pinkutank | I can make one that songs scrtoll thru a grinning monkeys mouth |
| 03:43:51 | hshah | www.warwickforums.co.uk/hshah_dump2.bmp |
| 03:43:54 | TiMiD | pinkutank: a nude korean girl dancing in 3D on the rwps would be nice |
| 03:44:06 | hshah | thats my wps |
| 03:44:08 | pinkutank | thats cute? thats minimalist yes, 50 cent cant be cute no |
| 03:44:24 | TiMiD | minimalist is good too |
| 03:44:26 | hshah | i like mine simple but effective |
| 03:44:28 | pinkutank | timid I can do that if you want |
| 03:44:41 | pinkutank | but it wont be interactive |
| 03:44:45 | pinkutank | it would just dance |
| 03:44:54 | pinkutank | as long as you played |
| 03:45:26 | hshah | t0mas was working on a plugin that wud make the backlight flash to the beat of the music... this was a few months back... anyone know what happened to that... |
| 03:45:34 | hshah | i haven't seen him online in a while |
| 03:45:42 | TiMiD | hmm then I think I will have to take a real girl for that :( |
| 03:45:49 | pinkutank | easy, just creat bmps of the girl, put them under alternating lines with small seconds, and put that in a playback state conditional and youre done |
| 03:46:07 | pinkutank | what about a naked hello kitty ? |
| 03:46:13 | hshah | i wouldn't mind a similar screen saver for my wps... |
| 03:46:39 | pinkutank | which, you mean the naked kitty right :P :) |
| 03:46:57 | hshah | im hoping my wps will make it to cvs, but i think its too plain and boring for that... :( |
| 03:47:06 | hshah | nah - i meant the naked girl... |
| 03:47:09 | pinkutank | I'm building one thatll make cvs |
| 03:47:10 | TiMiD | kitty would be good as well |
| 03:47:19 | pinkutank | kitty is easy |
| 03:47:28 | pinkutank | girl is theoratically ieasy |
| 03:47:28 | pinkutank | but |
| 03:47:29 | hshah | a random question... how do u guys say my name? |
| 03:47:38 | TiMiD | naked kitty is for l33t wps |
| 03:47:39 | pinkutank | monochrome humans are not worth seeing |
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| 03:48:05 | TiMiD | hshah: hshah I guess |
| 03:48:05 | pinkutank | hsha: we dont? |
| 03:48:23 | hshah | i mean if u were to say it out aloud |
| 03:48:37 | hshah | i wud say TiMiD as if i was saying the word timid |
| 03:48:39 | TiMiD | HSHAH |
| 03:48:48 | TiMiD | (loud) |
| 03:48:52 | hshah | need it in phonetics... |
| 03:49:39 | TiMiD | how would you pronounce ã™ãã„ã„ã„ |
| 03:49:42 | TiMiD | ？ |
| 03:49:43 | TiMiD | ? |
| 03:49:46 | hshah | ? |
| 03:49:50 | pinkutank | lol |
| 03:49:51 | hshah | all i see is squares? |
| 03:49:56 | TiMiD | hehe |
| 03:50:13 | TiMiD | I need it in phonetics and hexadecimal |
| 03:50:35 | hshah | for example, LinusN - i would say it as Linus N |
| 03:50:40 | pinkutank | eightchasseightah |
| 03:50:41 | hshah | saying the N as the letter N |
| 03:51:09 | pinkutank | eightchasseighchah |
| 03:51:15 | TiMiD | hshah: I hope I willnever have to tell you rname then :) |
| 03:51:17 | XavierGr | somthing like hsah |
| 03:51:43 | hshah | at last... someone does what i ask :p |
| 03:51:44 | pinkutank | the guy with the weird name,, |
| 03:51:48 | pinkutank | hushah |
| 03:51:56 | pinkutank | as in |
| 03:51:57 | pinkutank | husher |
| 03:51:58 | pinkutank | but |
| 03:52:05 | pinkutank | 1337 |
| 03:52:11 | hshah | i was just curious coz no one has guessed what its meant to be |
| 03:52:12 | hshah | H Shah |
| 03:52:18 | hshah | Hiren Shah |
| 03:52:38 | hshah | the H is meant to be separate |
| 03:52:41 | XavierGr | so its Shah |
| 03:52:46 | XavierGr | H Shah |
| 03:52:55 | pinkutank | isnt he from new delhi |
| 03:53:10 | hshah | well im indian, if that makes any difference :p |
| 03:53:21 | TiMiD | http://www5.big.or.jp/~otake/hey/kanji/gifmoji/f6/ichigo.gif <<I like this kanji (no relation) |
| 03:53:23 | pinkutank | its your real name |
| 03:53:25 | pinkutank | ? |
| 03:53:32 | hshah | but was born in the UK |
| 03:53:33 | pinkutank | i thought it was a writer |
| 03:53:35 | hshah | Hiren Shah? |
| 03:53:36 | TiMiD | flower + mother gives strawberry |
| 03:53:39 | hshah | yeah - thats my name |
| 03:53:40 | TiMiD | strange isn't it |
| 03:53:51 | pinkutank | yes |
| 03:53:58 | pinkutank | hows the park kanji in japanese |
| 03:54:27 | pinkutank | in chinese characters, its like two horses under a stable |
| 03:54:31 | XavierGr | TiMiD: How can I access the WPS context menu in the remote? |
| 03:54:51 | TiMiD | XavierGr: I don't know, it's not my patch |
| 03:55:02 | XavierGr | ? |
| 03:55:12 | TiMiD | wps is firefly's work |
| 03:55:15 | XavierGr | patch? You mean that it isn't supported? |
| 03:55:18 | XavierGr | ah |
| 03:55:20 | XavierGr | yes |
| 03:55:22 | XavierGr | you are right |
| 03:55:28 | TiMiD | I guess you can't |
| 03:55:35 | pinkutank | I looked up chinese carpark |
| 03:55:36 | pinkutank | http://www.solarman.bird.to/contortion/hira01a/Images/p00001t00046.jpg |
| 03:55:39 | TiMiD | pinkutank: you are chinese ? |
| 03:55:39 | pinkutank | this came up |
| 03:55:45 | XavierGr | also did you thought about remote options? |
| 03:55:46 | pinkutank | no Im Turkish |
| 03:56:09 | XavierGr | some can be the same but others definitely can't |
| 03:56:11 | TiMiD | pinkutank: sukebei ^^ |
| 03:56:51 | TiMiD | XavierGr: I didn't found the time, even if it's a small patch |
| 03:57:09 | pinkutank | sukebei? |
| 03:57:13 | XavierGr | np, just thought that some options can't be the same |
| 03:57:19 | TiMiD | lech |
| 03:57:36 | pinkutank | isnt it sukebe |
| 03:58:13 | TiMiD | no |
| 03:58:16 | TiMiD | sukebei |
| 03:58:20 | pinkutank | oh |
| 03:58:25 | pinkutank | sukebei is a kanji |
| 03:58:26 | pinkutank | i see |
| 03:58:28 | Febs | LinusN, are you around? |
| 03:58:32 | pinkutank | thought hiro, sorry |
| 03:59:08 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 03:59:11 | pinkutank | what does it mean |
| 03:59:15 | TiMiD | sukebei is not a kanji |
| 03:59:21 | TiMiD | it's written with 2 kanjis |
| 03:59:26 | TiMiD | it means lech |
| 03:59:43 | LinusN | Febs: yes |
| 03:59:47 | TiMiD | lubrique in french |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:37 | pinkutank | oh |
| 04:00:38 | pinkutank | lol |
| 04:00:49 | pinkutank | I didnt doo anything |
| 04:00:54 | pinkutank | it was googles fault |
| 04:01:00 | TiMiD | your picture was :) |
| 04:01:08 | TiMiD | yes google can be :) |
| 04:01:24 | pinkutank | google came up with that when I serached for chinese park |
| 04:01:25 | pinkutank | :D |
| 04:01:36 | pinkutank | i gotta brush my teeth and sleep |
| 04:01:44 | pinkutank | i killed my sleep schedule |
| 04:01:53 | pinkutank | not its 5am-12p |
| 04:01:53 | pinkutank | m |
| 04:01:58 | pinkutank | in the meantime |
| 04:02:00 | pinkutank | tellme |
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| 04:02:27 | Febs | Which H300 firmware version are you using for the bootloader patcher? |
| 04:02:27 | pinkutank | if you guys want, song rating, birate, khz, on your wps |
| 04:02:42 | lamed | i've killed my poor old mouse. |
| 04:02:52 | TiMiD | pinkutank: I want yes :) |
| 04:02:53 | pinkutank | ??how |
| 04:03:02 | LinusN | Febs: 1.28 |
| 04:03:04 | pinkutank | you want all of them |
| 04:03:17 | * | Febs Febs wonders why LinusN is still awake. |
| 04:03:20 | pinkutank | i mean im buildng a wps, would you want them on there? |
| 04:03:21 | LinusN | me too |
| 04:03:23 | Febs | It's what, 4AM there? |
| 04:03:28 | LinusN | yup |
| 04:03:36 | pinkutank | all of them? |
| 04:03:37 | LinusN | i'll regret this tomorrow :-) |
| 04:03:38 | TiMiD | I want a dancing marmot ont my remote wps |
| 04:03:39 | hshah | 3am here :) |
| 04:03:44 | Febs | No doubt. |
| 04:03:56 | pinkutank | ok timid |
| 04:04:00 | pinkutank | maybe tomorrow night |
| 04:04:02 | * | LinusN just installed h300 bootloader v1 on his h320 |
| 04:04:03 | TiMiD | :) |
| 04:04:04 | pinkutank | i can get it |
| 04:04:09 | pinkutank | :) |
| 04:04:11 | Febs | Nice. |
| 04:04:18 | TiMiD | LinusN: congratulation again |
| 04:04:28 | LinusN | and v6 on his h120 and h110 |
| 04:04:36 | Febs | Also nice. |
| 04:04:43 | pinkutank | seemslike mine is going to show everything |
| 04:04:44 | Febs | When is it going to be released? |
| 04:04:46 | TiMiD | LinusN: oh I have a request for H1x0 bootloader |
| 04:04:49 | * | Febs Febs runs and ducks. |
| 04:05:00 | pinkutank | can someone do a patch that can limit scrollnig wps fields by margins |
| 04:05:00 | * | preglow doles out applause |
| 04:05:04 | TiMiD | would it be possible to disable some ata tests on it ? |
| 04:05:04 | Febs | Grrr. I need to remember the /me format. |
| 04:05:26 | hshah | v6 eh? |
| 04:05:30 | TiMiD | because standards bootloader made my player do an ata error -42 |
| 04:05:44 | hshah | a small request - wud it be possible to change the text to "Bootloader USB Mode" |
| 04:05:50 | hshah | with a capital M |
| 04:05:58 | pinkutank | :) |
| 04:05:59 | * | preglow finds out what time it is |
| 04:06:20 | pinkutank | I think |
| 04:06:52 | pinkutank | B007L00D/\H USB M0D3 |
| 04:06:58 | pinkutank | would be better :P |
| 04:07:03 | hshah | erm... |
| 04:07:06 | hshah | no |
| 04:07:18 | pinkutank | joudan joudan |
| 04:07:22 | pinkutank | i hate leet speech |
| 04:07:29 | pinkutank | why dont you change it yourself |
| 04:07:38 | hshah | i changed the "Shutting down..." to "Shutting Down..." myself... but this is something i can't change myself easily |
| 04:07:40 | TiMiD | also, how about making line selector reverse as default since nezrly 80% of the users want it that way ? |
| 04:08:09 | LinusN | that gets my vote |
| 04:08:20 | pinkutank | mine too, but doesnt matter much |
| 04:08:22 | TiMiD | at least default ... |
| 04:09:12 | pinkutank | hshah, why cant you do it |
| 04:09:17 | pinkutank | i did it |
| 04:09:22 | preglow | LinusN: putting interrupt setup code in crt0.S isn't a big nono, i hope? |
| 04:09:30 | hshah | LinusN, advised me not to mess around with the bootloader... |
| 04:09:48 | LinusN | preglow: why there? |
| 04:09:50 | pinkutank | line 319 |
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| 04:09:53 | pinkutank | just a mere cap |
| 04:11:14 | | Quit pinkutank (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:11:24 | TiMiD | if I change "{1, S_O(invert_cursor), false, "invert cursor", off_on }" to "{1, S_O(invert_cursor), true, "invert cursor", off_on }", will I get killed ? |
| 04:11:50 | preglow | LinusN: just seems simpler, i need to write a set of instructions and addresses to address 0 |
| 04:12:07 | preglow | LinusN: so i'll just put the assembler code i want to write there in crt0.S, together with code for copying it there |
| 04:12:11 | LinusN | preglow: do as you feel is KISS |
| 04:12:13 | preglow | i gues this could easily be done in system.c as well |
| 04:12:29 | preglow | i'll just do the crt0.S approach for now |
| 04:12:57 | TiMiD | I'm itching to commit this |
| 04:14:53 | hshah | well if ur gonna do that, you may as well commit the tree/root to wps patch... you can only get killed once :p |
| 04:15:57 | TiMiD | hehe you know there are several ways to die ;) |
| 04:16:04 | TiMiD | I prefer a quick die |
| 04:16:21 | TiMiD | but for that they will take their time I guess |
| 04:16:33 | hshah | ahh well, rather you than me :p |
| 04:18:02 | TiMiD | commited :) |
| 04:18:22 | * | hshah sharpens the blade |
| 04:18:42 | TiMiD | wait I make my testament |
| 04:19:14 | hshah | btw, what did u change? |
| 04:19:19 | TiMiD | lol |
| 04:19:37 | TiMiD | invert cursor is default now |
| 04:19:47 | hshah | oh rite... |
| 04:19:49 | preglow | but no, i think i need to get some sleep now |
| 04:19:51 | preglow | laters, all |
| 04:19:56 | TiMiD | good night |
| 04:19:59 | * | hshah whacks the blade on a stone |
| 04:20:07 | hshah | i have it on inverse anyway |
| 04:20:18 | hshah | lol |
| 04:20:30 | hshah | gd nite mate |
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| 04:21:15 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 04:22:00 | TiMiD | would it be possible to make a wps that handles putting the album name first when the playing track is a soundtrack |
| 04:22:03 | TiMiD | ? |
| 04:23:08 | hshah | anything is possible ;) |
| 04:23:41 | XavierGr | Linus: Glad that you changed the scanning of rockbox.target to the .rockbox filder instead of the route. |
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| 04:27:55 | LinusN | ok, bootloader v6 for H1xx is out |
| 04:28:03 | LinusN | and bootloader v1 for H3xx |
| 04:28:13 | ashridah | <H300 users> ZERG RUSH! |
| 04:28:19 | ashridah | heh |
| 04:28:25 | TiMiD | LinusN: what about the ata error -42 ? |
| 04:28:27 | preglow | w0000t! |
| 04:28:34 | preglow | ashridah: ahahahahah |
| 04:28:39 | LinusN | TiMiD: the what? |
| 04:29:06 | TiMiD | I can't use a standard bootloade because of that |
| 04:29:20 | LinusN | refresh my memory |
| 04:29:47 | LinusN | ah, the register test, right? |
| 04:29:54 | TiMiD | no |
| 04:30:01 | TiMiD | it was a long time ago |
| 04:30:09 | TiMiD | maybe in mars last year |
| 04:30:50 | TiMiD | I was able to install rockbox only in august of this year since you made a custom bootloader for a guy on the forum |
| 04:31:05 | TiMiD | who gets his player into water |
| 04:31:18 | TiMiD | you removed a ata register test |
| 04:31:29 | TiMiD | yes register test :) |
| 04:31:32 | LinusN | :-) |
| 04:31:45 | * | ashridah hands TiMiD the cookie of details |
| 04:32:10 | TiMiD | I never plunged mineinto water though |
| 04:33:18 | preglow | nice, if someone manages to do a null pointer write on arm, the reset vector gets overwritten |
| 04:33:36 | preglow | well, can't exactly call it a vector, since it's an instruction, but... |
| 04:34:00 | TiMiD | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=688.0 |
| 04:34:08 | ashridah | preglow: ahaha. |
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| 04:36:11 | Febs | Is the new fwpatcher only for H100v6 or does it include H300v1? |
| 04:36:52 | preglow | both |
| 04:36:56 | preglow | apparently |
| 04:37:23 | TiMiD | LinusN: I use this bootloader : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1227.0 |
| 04:38:09 | LinusN | ok, it was -32 |
| 04:38:22 | LinusN | i can make a boot loader for you |
| 04:38:25 | LinusN | tomoreow |
| 04:38:29 | LinusN | gotta sleep now |
| 04:39:07 | LinusN | nite all |
| 04:39:07 | TiMiD | maybe put this into cvs |
| 04:39:14 | | Part LinusN |
| 04:39:29 | * | ashridah idly wonders if any foolish H3x0 users will jump the gun. |
| 04:40:07 | * | Febs is very tempted. |
| 04:40:14 | preglow | Febs: coward! |
| 04:40:28 | ashridah | well, don't get me wrong, i'd do it too, but i'm a little more experienced :) |
| 04:40:52 | preglow | ashridah: coward! |
| 04:40:58 | ashridah | i just get the feeling that H3x0 users seem to believe that the bootloader is all that's necessary for an immediately working rockbox on H3x0 :) |
| 04:41:13 | ashridah | preglow: coward? i don't have one. can't install on what i don't have |
| 04:41:23 | * | ashridah is about to patch his H140 up to v6 tho |
| 04:41:25 | preglow | irrelevant! install it on your h140 |
| 04:41:28 | hshah | so is bootloader v6 released? |
| 04:41:32 | Midgey34 | I'm debating installing it even though there's no sound |
| 04:41:41 | Zoom2 | Random question: Has the 'fade out' been implanted in the sleep timer yet? |
| 04:41:56 | Febs | ashridah: well, ok, I *do* know how to install RB. |
| 04:42:03 | ashridah | hshah: for H120/140 sure. 3x0 has a v1 bootloader, which is only recommended for developers. |
| 04:42:17 | hshah | yeah, ive got a h120 |
| 04:42:20 | ashridah | i'd let some developers be the first lemmings :) |
| 04:42:23 | hshah | whats the diff between v5 and v6 |
| 04:42:23 | preglow | nice, i'm left with an ipod that can't be switched off |
| 04:42:38 | ashridah | hshah: there's a changelog on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 04:45:16 | lamed | i think i run bootloader v2 |
| 04:46:32 | hshah | lol |
| 04:46:46 | hshah | i think its bed time for me too now |
| 04:48:31 | lamed | gnite |
| 04:49:05 | lamed | think i'll wait until i'll be sure v6 is stable... probably it is. |
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| 04:50:04 | ashridah | well. v6 worked with 1.65-US here on my H140 |
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| 04:51:15 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 04:51:25 | XavierGr | I am going to upgrade right now |
| 04:51:48 | XavierGr | no more rockbox.iriver on the route folder |
| 04:52:03 | ashridah | root. |
| 04:52:08 | ashridah | route's something else :) |
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| 04:52:28 | XavierGr | ah yes |
| 04:52:36 | XavierGr | my mind got stuck on the word |
| 04:53:28 | ashridah | man, i haven't booted into the iriver firmware in ages |
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| 05:01:21 | stinkbud | congrate folks on the h300 bootloader and thanks!!! |
| 05:01:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:01:47 | stinkbud | that being said, i will not otuch it with a ten foot pole... not yet :) |
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| 05:17:35 | Kyl3 | Bah !! Rockbox wont boot! |
| 05:18:17 | Febs | Won't boot on what? |
| 05:18:39 | Kyl3 | my H340... the original firmware works |
| 05:18:51 | Kyl3 | but just so you guys know |
| 05:19:03 | Febs | How did you boot to the original firmware? |
| 05:19:44 | Midgey34 | Kyl3: you installed the patched h300.hex with the new bootloader? |
| 05:20:01 | Kyl3 | it says: Rockbox bootloader Version 1 Batt 3.93V loading firmware result:-1 |
| 05:20:06 | Kyl3 | then it shuts down |
| 05:20:16 | Kyl3 | Migey:Yes |
| 05:20:18 | Febs | That's because you don't have a Rockbox build on the player. |
| 05:20:22 | Kyl3 | Febs: Hold record |
| 05:20:45 | Midgey34 | well its good to know the bootloader works correctly |
| 05:20:56 | Midgey34 | and like febs said, you need a rockbox build on the player |
| 05:21:01 | Kyl3 | Yeah it works |
| 05:21:20 | Midgey34 | right now it can't find the rockbox files so it boot the original firmware |
| 05:21:29 | Febs | And of course, the H300 build is not yet available on the Daily Build page. |
| 05:21:34 | Kyl3 | no itll shutdown |
| 05:21:44 | Kyl3 | then u gotta reboot to origial |
| 05:21:54 | Kyl3 | its coming soon tho right |
| 05:22:35 | Febs | I am sure that it will be available once the bootloader is tested. |
| 05:22:37 | Midgey34 | Febs: the data is build, there's just no link |
| 05:22:39 | Midgey34 | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 05:22:48 | Midgey34 | that should work |
| 05:23:06 | Kyl3 | YES ty |
| 05:23:14 | Midgey34 | no problem |
| 05:23:33 | Kyl3 | what do i do with it |
| 05:23:52 | Midgey34 | copy it to the root directory of the player |
| 05:24:02 | Midgey34 | well extract it first |
| 05:24:16 | Kyl3 | then upgrade fw? |
| 05:24:38 | Midgey34 | no |
| 05:24:42 | Midgey34 | it should boot now |
| 05:24:48 | Midgey34 | you already have the bootloader |
| 05:24:50 | Kyl3 | ok wait |
| 05:24:54 | Midgey34 | you're just missing the data |
| 05:25:13 | Midgey34 | oh sec, I'm going to book into windows |
| 05:25:21 | Kyl3 | k |
| 05:25:23 | | Quit Midgey34 ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") |
| 05:26:13 | ashridah | Kyl3: the bootloader just installs a small amoutn of code in the iriver flash rom in order to have it load rockbox proper from the hard drive |
| 05:26:39 | Kyl3 | it works |
| 05:26:50 | ashridah | the iriver standard firmware doesn't load any part of itself from disk normally, so the rockbox team had to write one themselves, and that's why you patched it into iriver's firmware |
| 05:27:34 | Kyl3 | Yay it works |
| 05:27:41 | Kyl3 | now to mess around |
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| 05:27:57 | ashridah | Kyl3: do you have a wiki account? |
| 05:28:05 | Kyl3 | No I'll make one |
| 05:28:14 | Kyl3 | why? should I confirm it works |
| 05:28:24 | ashridah | if you don't, you might want to create one, and edit the IriverBoot page to add a tick and your name like i have for one of the H140 targets |
| 05:28:33 | Kyl3 | Migey: IT WOKS!! lol |
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| 05:28:37 | ashridah | well, you appear to have been one of the first lemmings :) |
| 05:28:40 | Midgey34 | awesome |
| 05:28:44 | ModernExecutive | Hello |
| 05:28:45 | Febs | I'll do it. |
| 05:30:49 | Kyl3 | Im'ma test Rockboy |
| 05:31:02 | Midgey34 | Kyl3: are you using 1.28eu or k? |
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| 05:31:11 | Kyl3 | k |
| 05:31:17 | Midgey34 | alright |
| 05:31:21 | Midgey34 | mines upgrading |
| 05:31:21 | Kyl3 | its a US player |
| 05:31:28 | Midgey34 | success |
| 05:31:35 | ModernExecutive | we giving out a bootloader here? |
| 05:31:41 | Midgey34 | wow that text is really small |
| 05:31:52 | Kyl3 | yes |
| 05:31:59 | ModernExecutive | neat-o |
| 05:32:13 | Midgey34 | Febs: I updated the wiki |
| 05:33:04 | Midgey34 | peak meters work |
| 05:33:08 | Febs | I see. I tried and you had it in edit lock. |
| 05:33:08 | Midgey34 | obviously no sound |
| 05:33:17 | Midgey34 | oh sorry about that |
| 05:35:49 | Kyl3 | its buggy as hell |
| 05:36:14 | Febs | That's why it's listed as being for developers only. |
| 05:36:29 | Midgey34 | Kyl3: that it is |
| 05:36:40 | Kyl3 | the screen turns of every 4 seconds |
| 05:36:42 | ashridah | Kyl3: on the plus side, while it's buggy, the existence of the bootloader vastly increases the developer pool |
| 05:37:16 | Kyl3 | yes |
| 05:37:20 | Febs | You can change the screen timeout. |
| 05:37:56 | Midgey34 | hmm, the bootloader makes it so the clock doesn't show on iriver firmware,can I assume that's because linus hasn't added rtc code to the bootloader yet? |
| 05:39:07 | Febs | I claim the first H300 crash! |
| 05:39:10 | ashridah | Midgey34: that's a fair assumption, but keep in mind i have no idea how the H3x0 handles that |
| 05:41:38 | Kyl3 | <Febs> You can change the screen timeout. <- where |
| 05:41:56 | Midgey34 | just ran a quick test. everything else on the iriver firmware works as it previously did |
| 05:42:03 | Midgey34 | no surprise there |
| 05:42:04 | ModernExecutive | this is exciting |
| 05:42:13 | Febs | I cannot start the iriver firmware by pressing REC PLAY. |
| 05:42:32 | Midgey34 | Febs: you're holding them both? |
| 05:42:39 | Febs | Yes. |
| 05:42:59 | Febs | Whoops. No. |
| 05:43:26 | Febs | I was holding REC while doing a short press of PLAY (which is how it works on the H100). |
| 05:43:35 | XavierGr | I want to see what will happen on an Int H300 version |
| 05:43:55 | Kyl3 | u got one? |
| 05:44:06 | XavierGr | no |
| 05:44:10 | XavierGr | just wondering |
| 05:44:51 | Febs | Kyl3, regarding backlight: A-B −−> General Settings -> Display -> Backlight. |
| 05:44:51 | Kyl3 | Okay I'm about to test out Rockboy |
| 05:45:02 | Febs | Also: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualMainMenu#Backlight |
| 05:45:35 | Febs | That online manual is well worth reading if you want to understand Rockbox's features. |
| 05:45:37 | TiMiD | it's funny, on the H300 sim, only remote is working ^^ |
| 05:45:42 | Kyl3 | its not there |
| 05:45:59 | Febs | Kyl3, you are the king of ambiguous prepositions. |
| 05:46:00 | Kyl3 | omg |
| 05:46:13 | Midgey34 | Kyl3: |
| 05:46:15 | Kyl3 | .... h300 lcd remote works |
| 05:46:17 | Midgey34 | oops |
| 05:46:19 | Midgey34 | yah |
| 05:46:21 | Febs | prepositions=pronouns. |
| 05:46:35 | Kyl3 | thanks |
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| 05:47:02 | Kyl3 | when i press AB |
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| 05:47:11 | Midgey34 | hit A-B, General Settings, display,lcd settings, backlight |
| 05:47:13 | Kyl3 | I see settings for repeat and suffle |
| 05:47:18 | Midgey34 | then hit up and down to change it |
| 05:47:27 | Midgey34 | short hit, not long |
| 05:47:38 | Kyl3 | oh i got it |
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| 05:48:52 | Midgey34 | time to reset |
| 05:49:11 | Midgey34 | hmm nevermind |
| 05:51:18 | Kyl3 | i need to.. |
| 05:51:27 | Midgey34 | mine fixed itself... |
| 05:53:14 | Kyl3 | oh noes. |
| 05:53:22 | Kyl3 | mine wont reset |
| 05:55:31 | Kyl3 | ok |
| 05:55:34 | Kyl3 | it did |
| 05:55:36 | Kyl3 | phew |
| 05:56:53 | Midgey34 | what were you doing wrong? |
| 05:56:58 | Kyl3 | it freezes at the wps.. |
| 05:57:13 | Kyl3 | i cant see the directory structure |
| 05:57:51 | Kyl3 | i see a battery, a "volume" looking thing. and a stop sign |
| 05:58:31 | Kyl3 | aha] |
| 05:58:33 | Kyl3 | got it |
| 05:59:12 | Kyl3 | rockboy works |
| 05:59:35 | Zoom2 | it doesnt for me=( |
| 05:59:44 | Kyl3 | what happens |
| 05:59:51 | Zoom2 | maybe I should try updating to the latest patch |
| 05:59:57 | Zoom2 | nothing it jsut doesnt load |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:01 | Zoom2 | I am wondering if it is my mods or what |
| 06:00:26 | Zoom2 | Id tell you more in detail, but I dont have my player with me ATM |
| 06:00:50 | Zoom2 | has it always worked for you, or just in the latest patch? |
| 06:01:15 | Kyl3 | theres a new patch already |
| 06:01:45 | Kyl3 | im trying it now first time |
| 06:02:43 | Kyl3 | ok.. ROCKboy starts the ROM |
| 06:02:51 | Kyl3 | Play is A/Start |
| 06:03:15 | Kyl3 | the navi keys dont act as up/down/left/right |
| 06:03:22 | Kyl3 | they dont work.. |
| 06:03:36 | Zoom2 | =( |
| 06:03:51 | Kyl3 | stop is pause and when i press AB (settings) it frezzes |
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| 06:05:26 | Zoom2 | brb |
| 06:06:34 | ashridah | Kyl3: keep in mind that rockboy was never really finished for the H120, and it will need work for the H3x0 for button mapping |
| 06:06:49 | ashridah | amoungst other things |
| 06:07:09 | Kyl3 | yea |
| 06:07:23 | Kyl3 | but lets get nusic playing first |
| 06:07:48 | Kyl3 | music* |
| 06:08:48 | Kyl3 | 4-5s boot time tho |
| 06:13:30 | Kyl3 | iPod theme makes text bigger |
| 06:17:06 | ashridah | themes can change to a different font |
| 06:18:20 | Kyl3 | playing snake |
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| 06:26:47 | Annsa | so.... whose tried out the H3xx Bootloader? |
| 06:26:52 | Kyl3 | me |
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| 06:27:09 | Midgey34 | I have as well |
| 06:27:19 | Annsa | i read it was just experimental so im feeling edgy about trying it |
| 06:27:41 | Kyl3 | how do i get back to the manage plugins screen |
| 06:27:59 | Midgey34 | hit stop? |
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| 06:28:15 | Kyl3 | I hit reset |
| 06:28:20 | ModernExecutive | hah |
| 06:28:22 | Kyl3 | san it works! |
| 06:29:00 | Midgey34 | Annsa: its hardly at a usable state. Still very glitchy, however it is nice to see the Rockbox logo show up and test some plugins |
| 06:29:14 | Kyl3 | i got it |
| 06:30:05 | Annsa | I think ill just sit tight till a stable release comes out. very exciting though! |
| 06:31:31 | Annsa | ive found the bootloader, but where do you actually get the rockbox build for h3xx? |
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| 06:32:49 | andrewmelreal | those who dont know what they are doing should exercise care here... |
| 06:32:56 | Kyl3 | ill make one now |
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| 06:33:55 | Kyl3 | i have a like |
| 06:33:58 | Kyl3 | nk* |
| 06:34:05 | ashridah | Annsa: the daily build link isn't available, but it's built: http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 06:34:16 | ashridah | it'll get a link on the page eventually. |
| 06:34:26 | ashridah | and yes, i wouldn't recommend trying it until it does useful things |
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| 06:35:27 | Kyl3 | i can play snake on the bus now |
| 06:35:27 | Kyl3 | lol |
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| 06:36:38 | Annsa | So what does the current build let you do kyl3? |
| 06:37:18 | ashridah | Annsa: not a lot. no music playback. most plugins won't work that well, due to key mapping issues. |
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| 06:38:50 | DreamTactix291 | it won't be too long before you guys are enjoying it though |
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| 06:38:53 | DreamTactix291 | once you do it's great |
| 06:39:01 | Annsa | as the bootloader works fine, more developers will be able to chip in though right? |
| 06:39:14 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 06:39:16 | Annsa | or doesnt the bootloader work fine |
| 06:39:26 | DreamTactix291 | if the bootloader boots it works |
| 06:39:49 | Annsa | thats logical |
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| 06:39:56 | Drumrboy247 | Hello everybody |
| 06:40:35 | DreamTactix291 | now i'm no dev |
| 06:40:48 | DreamTactix291 | but i'd say quite a bit of stuff will transfer from the H1xx to the H3xx |
| 06:40:53 | DreamTactix291 | due to them having the same CPU |
| 06:41:04 | DreamTactix291 | that being said the bootloader is a milestone :) |
| 06:41:14 | Annsa | awesome |
| 06:41:24 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 06:41:30 | * | DreamTactix291 is a happy H140 Rockbox user |
| 06:41:33 | Annsa | so, what wont be able to be directly taken from the h1xx? |
| 06:41:45 | DreamTactix291 | LCD stuff |
| 06:41:47 | Drumrboy247 | well, as most parts minus the optical capabilities etc are the same, the amt of time to just port rather than do from scratch will be much less |
| 06:41:48 | DreamTactix291 | USBOTG stuff |
| 06:41:55 | Drumrboy247 | yea |
| 06:41:56 | Drumrboy247 | that too |
| 06:41:58 | Annsa | ah |
| 06:42:00 | sango | video stuff |
| 06:42:12 | Annsa | well. i wouldnt put USBOTG as a high priority yet |
| 06:42:18 | Drumrboy247 | i would kill (not really) for 15 FPs |
| 06:42:37 | DreamTactix291 | Annsa: it's probably not |
| 06:42:50 | DreamTactix291 | but now that other devs can boot rockbox on an H3xx it'll move faster |
| 06:42:51 | ModernExecutive | stupid question: can rockbox overclock the h3x0's cpu to get a faster framerate? |
| 06:42:52 | Annsa | depends, whats the refresh rate of the LCDs. if its only 10hz then you wont get anything higher than 10fps |
| 06:43:08 | DreamTactix291 | i think it's a limit of the LCD |
| 06:43:12 | DreamTactix291 | more than anything |
| 06:43:16 | DreamTactix291 | i could be wrong |
| 06:43:33 | ModernExecutive | good to see you, dt |
| 06:43:33 | Annsa | yeah ^^^ thats what i was thinking. im pretty sure its a refresh rate problem |
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| 06:43:52 | Drumrboy247 | since the processor is the same in both the h100 and the h300 hypotheticaly capable of video? |
| 06:44:10 | Drumrboy247 | wait i meant, isnt the h100 capable... |
| 06:44:11 | ModernExecutive | the h100, drumrboy? |
| 06:44:11 | DreamTactix291 | if the H1xx had a colour screen it could do video |
| 06:44:27 | ModernExecutive | maybe it could do videos encoded to grayscale? |
| 06:44:28 | Drumrboy247 | well, is the greyscale screen capable? |
| 06:44:43 | Annsa | yeah, like in ipodlinux. they have grayscale video working |
| 06:44:51 | Drumrboy247 | my thoughts exactly |
| 06:44:53 | DreamTactix291 | yeah but i wouldn't want to watch it |
| 06:44:56 | DreamTactix291 | :P |
| 06:44:58 | ashridah | DreamTactix291: capable yes, but i suspect it's got a poorer potential framerate than the colour lcd on the H3x0 |
| 06:44:59 | Drumrboy247 | lol |
| 06:45:09 | Drumrboy247 | ahh, true true |
| 06:45:12 | DreamTactix291 | yeah the H1xx LCD is slow |
| 06:45:18 | DreamTactix291 | you can tell from looking at the peak meters |
| 06:45:28 | Annsa | well, i saw some grayscale video on my friends ipod and it was suprisinlgly good considering |
| 06:45:53 | DreamTactix291 | well i got an iriver PMP-120 for $199.99 so I'll use it for video |
| 06:46:03 | ModernExecutive | nice catch |
| 06:46:04 | Drumrboy247 | you see they have doom/video on the nano?? thats insanely small ... too small... to be functional |
| 06:46:33 | Annsa | 45% of all nanos have had to be taken back in though because of dodgy breakable screens |
| 06:46:41 | Drumrboy247 | rofl |
| 06:46:46 | ModernExecutive | before or after they were run over by cars? |
| 06:46:48 | DreamTactix291 | cheap build quality |
| 06:47:07 | Annsa | i was once an ipod owner *shame on me* but when the screen shattered for no reason i bought my h3xx |
| 06:47:35 | Drumrboy247 | well, bad front cover material which allowed for depression direct on the LCD, and its just so tiny |
| 06:47:38 | sango | ipod is not too bad, it does somethings better out of box then the iriver. |
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| 06:47:43 | DreamTactix291 | my first DAP was an H120 |
| 06:47:49 | DreamTactix291 | then i got an H140 and gave my girl the H120 |
| 06:47:58 | Drumrboy247 | my first DAP was an h320 |
| 06:48:00 | sango | but the ipod and iriver h300 series target different markets |
| 06:48:06 | andrewmel | i went from cd to md to h320 |
| 06:48:08 | Drumrboy247 | most def |
| 06:48:33 | Annsa | yeah, well the reason i love irivers is you can organise your files how you want rather than automatically categorised by ID3 tags |
| 06:48:34 | DreamTactix291 | i'm probably going to have an H180 one day |
| 06:48:40 | DreamTactix291 | i like that too |
| 06:48:44 | DreamTactix291 | my filetree is very well organised |
| 06:48:53 | DreamTactix291 | because ~80% of my stuff is my own rips |
| 06:48:55 | ModernExecutive | i have my tree the way I like it |
| 06:48:56 | Drumrboy247 | well, i guess if your sayin all that, i went from CD to MP3 CD to P{alm pilot with 256 Mb to palm pilot 1Gb to h320 |
| 06:49:10 | ModernExecutive | alphabetical, by song title. |
| 06:49:12 | Annsa | yeah, it sucked with compilation cds because they would add like 15 artists to my artist list |
| 06:49:16 | ModernExecutive | pretty easily accessible |
| 06:49:19 | DreamTactix291 | i originally got my H120 large for its Vorbis support |
| 06:49:24 | DreamTactix291 | since my library was in Vorbis at the time |
| 06:49:35 | DreamTactix291 | now it's in WavPack and i transcode to Vorbis with foobar2000 for it |
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| 06:49:45 | sango | mine is alphabetical by artsts letter, then album and finally track |
| 06:49:48 | Drumrboy247 | i <3 foobar |
| 06:49:55 | DreamTactix291 | me too :) |
| 06:49:58 | Annsa | same |
| 06:50:07 | DreamTactix291 | mine is genre/artist/album/## title.ext |
| 06:50:10 | Drumrboy247 | imo its a perfect low processor minimalist audio player |
| 06:50:12 | Annsa | although i have tracknumber. trackname |
| 06:50:16 | andrewmel | I do albums by year. otherwise the same as sango |
| 06:50:28 | Drumrboy247 | no frills, just plays MP3's and very well might i add |
| 06:50:36 | Annsa | DreamT, but that sucks for crossgenre music |
| 06:50:38 | DreamTactix291 | i have a fairly minimalist WPS for my H140 |
| 06:51:05 | DreamTactix291 | http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/dump_0001.png |
| 06:51:13 | Drumrboy247 | i KNOW you must see your stats, such as KHz and what codec? |
| 06:51:20 | ModernExecutive | question: what is it that makes the iriver sound better than the ipod? iriver has the software decoder; does ipod have a HW decoder, or is its software just really inferior? |
| 06:51:33 | Drumrboy247 | knew it |
| 06:51:34 | Drumrboy247 | haha |
| 06:51:36 | ModernExecutive | also, what is a wps? |
| 06:51:39 | DreamTactix291 | ipod has a software decoder |
| 06:51:42 | Annsa | shitty sound card in the Ipod |
| 06:51:43 | DreamTactix291 | its ARM CPU decodes |
| 06:51:51 | Drumrboy247 | While Playing Screen |
| 06:52:05 | Drumrboy247 | is WPS |
| 06:52:06 | DreamTactix291 | ModernExecutive: my link i gave is mine |
| 06:52:27 | Drumrboy247 | DT, very nice, BUT wouldnt you prever it centered? |
| 06:52:27 | Kyl3 | is there screendump yet? |
| 06:52:34 | DreamTactix291 | my remote WPS is a smaller version of it |
| 06:52:36 | DreamTactix291 | actually |
| 06:52:39 | DreamTactix291 | i tried it all centred |
| 06:52:42 | DreamTactix291 | and i didn't like it as much |
| 06:52:49 | andrewmel | dt what is the foobar in the bottom right of that wps? |
| 06:53:11 | DreamTactix291 | ? |
| 06:53:22 | Kyl3 | yes!! otf playlists |
| 06:53:27 | Drumrboy247 | w00t w00t |
| 06:53:35 | Annsa | gapless? |
| 06:53:39 | DreamTactix291 | i exploited those today at lunch a lot |
| 06:53:39 | Drumrboy247 | Kyl3, thank you for the MR post |
| 06:53:42 | Drumrboy247 | btw |
| 06:53:47 | Kyl3 | np |
| 06:54:36 | Drumrboy247 | worth trying yet, or is it completely unusable as of now... it wont play music yet right? |
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| 06:54:47 | Annsa | so, can you view pictures on h3xx RB yet? |
| 06:54:49 | andrewmel | @dt, the bottom right of your dump is a bit messed up and I was wondering what was going on |
| 06:55:22 | DreamTactix291 | no, those are the peak metres |
| 06:55:37 | Drumrboy247 | hey... i want screen shots of RB320! |
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| 06:55:48 | Drumrboy247 | are any available anywhere? |
| 06:55:49 | andrewmel | ahhh!!! |
| 06:56:18 | DreamTactix291 | my remote WPS is like that |
| 06:56:18 | DreamTactix291 | but |
| 06:56:50 | DreamTactix291 | with Arist, Album, Progress Bar, Time Elapsed/Total, and Bitrate + Codec |
| 06:56:52 | Dragon_Fangs | :D hi DT!!! |
| 06:56:52 | DreamTactix291 | smaller version |
| 06:57:00 | DreamTactix291 | yo |
| 06:57:38 | * | Dragon_Fangs waives to andrewmel |
| 06:57:44 | Annsa | kyl3, you own a digi camera? could you get some shots of RB on your h3xx? |
| 06:58:13 | andrewmel | kyl3 is gone |
| 06:58:53 | Annsa | dang |
| 06:59:33 | DreamTactix291 | you guys will love the gaplessness :) |
| 06:59:35 | DreamTactix291 | i promise |
| 06:59:39 | DreamTactix291 | i can't imagine not having it now |
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| 07:00:12 | Drumrboy247 | lol, that gapless will halp SOAD's CD's greatly |
| 07:00:19 | Drumrboy247 | help* |
| 07:00:29 | andrewmel | *waves back |
| 07:00:30 | sango | crossfading is what I can't wait to here |
| 07:00:30 | Drumrboy247 | im spoiled as i have been listening in foobar lately |
| 07:00:34 | DreamTactix291 | and like all of my prog music |
| 07:00:46 | DreamTactix291 | most people who don't think gapless is important have never really heard it |
| 07:00:50 | DreamTactix291 | oh and andrew |
| 07:01:00 | DreamTactix291 | you asked about the inherant gap of mp3 in a thread |
| 07:01:04 | DreamTactix291 | it's a very very small blip |
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| 07:01:07 | Drumrboy247 | wont ANY Cd player do gapless? |
| 07:01:08 | DreamTactix291 | but it is noticeable |
| 07:01:13 | DreamTactix291 | Drumrboy247: yes |
| 07:01:23 | gursikh | when's the party? |
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| 07:01:56 | DreamTactix291 | i'm actually going to do a small clip i have of a live CD i didn't rip |
| 07:01:59 | DreamTactix291 | that shows the inherant gap |
| 07:02:01 | DreamTactix291 | and post it |
| 07:02:02 | Drumrboy247 | hmm, and a CD will go at the highest Bitrate possible? |
| 07:02:15 | Drumrboy247 | like, the bitrate it was recorded ta? |
| 07:02:16 | DreamTactix291 | CD = 1411.2kbps 2 channel 16 bit LPCM |
| 07:02:16 | | Quit Midgey34 (Connection timed out) |
| 07:02:31 | DreamTactix291 | at 44.1kHz |
| 07:02:53 | Drumrboy247 | so then if your such an audio freak (no offense) why not just get a discman, and call it a day? |
| 07:03:05 | andrewmel | i was saying that |
| 07:03:09 | gursikh | lol.... here we go.... |
| 07:03:10 | andrewmel | 1/50 isnt noticable |
| 07:03:15 | andrewmel | of a second anyway |
| 07:03:19 | DreamTactix291 | it's more than that |
| 07:03:25 | Drumrboy247 | andrew : haha, great minds eh? |
| 07:03:28 | andrewmel | how much? |
| 07:03:35 | sango | it is usually a quarter |
| 07:03:36 | DreamTactix291 | i'll do that splice for you :) |
| 07:03:39 | DreamTactix291 | and you'll hear |
| 07:03:50 | ashridah | andrewmel: actually, the human ear is incredibly precise |
| 07:03:52 | Drumrboy247 | well, you'll know its there |
| 07:03:53 | ashridah | it is noticable |
| 07:03:59 | Annsa | do you think its possible in RB to have the option to "ignore silence at start and end of track"? |
| 07:04:04 | ModernExecutive | it's been real, everyone |
| 07:04:05 | ModernExecutive | take care |
| 07:04:08 | Drumrboy247 | well, not my ears, bein a drummer and all ;) |
| 07:04:18 | ashridah | and one can train your ear to even detect a note that's slightly out of tune on an instrument. |
| 07:04:23 | andrewmel | since i started playing clarinet |
| 07:04:24 | DreamTactix291 | Annsa: with LAME encodes it does it automatically |
| 07:04:24 | Drumrboy247 | Bye modern |
| 07:04:27 | andrewmel | my ears have improved |
| 07:04:34 | andrewmel | lots |
| 07:04:41 | sango | andrew: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=13779&highlight=gap+test |
| 07:04:45 | andrewmel | but my thumb hurts:) |
| 07:04:52 | Drumrboy247 | i have pretty good pitch, for a percussionist |
| 07:05:02 | andrewmel | cheers |
| 07:05:04 | ashridah | it's the eyes that will fill in the gaps in what it receives. |
| 07:05:37 | andrewmel | i was meaning the gaps inherent in mp3 |
| 07:05:39 | andrewmel | not the h320 |
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| 07:06:02 | DreamTactix291 | andrewmel: that's what i'm talking about |
| 07:06:05 | DreamTactix291 | i'm going to show you :) |
| 07:06:09 | sango | there is alwasy the no gap option for lame |
| 07:06:34 | DreamTactix291 | nogap is pointless now |
| 07:06:35 | andrewmel | cool |
| 07:06:41 | DreamTactix291 | it's done automatically now |
| 07:06:47 | DreamTactix291 | and nogap screws up VBR headers |
| 07:06:54 | Annsa | i still think an "ignore silence" option would be beneficial |
| 07:07:00 | andrewmel | sangos thread pointed to a .5 second gap |
| 07:07:04 | Drumrboy247 | are you able to restore teh orig firmware on a rockboxed h320 |
| 07:07:04 | andrewmel | for the h1xx |
| 07:07:13 | DreamTactix291 | originally yes |
| 07:07:16 | Drumrboy247 | or just the 1.28k over it, in the future? |
| 07:07:24 | andrewmel | yep, just reflash with the original firmware |
| 07:07:55 | Drumrboy247 | ok, good, i gotta learn me up on the rockbox stuff, cause as soon as its functional im goin for it |
| 07:08:12 | Drumrboy247 | nite all |
| 07:08:17 | andrewmel | nite |
| 07:08:20 | gursikh | night |
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| 07:09:55 | gursikh | i'm off as well. congrats to the rb, thank you very much (etc etc i'm sure you get enough) i'll see you all another day |
| 07:10:05 | gursikh | team* |
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| 07:12:48 | sango | brb need to switch clients |
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| 07:13:07 | andrewmel | wb |
| 07:13:18 | andrewmel | which client to which client? |
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| 07:14:35 | Annsa | how hard is it to reflash a bricked h3xx with a wiggler? |
| 07:15:04 | ashridah | it involves a bit of soldering and disassembly, i daresay |
| 07:15:17 | | Part sango_ |
| 07:15:20 | Annsa | soldering? really? |
| 07:15:27 | DreamTactix291 | andrew: just finished the merge |
| 07:15:28 | sango | ... |
| 07:15:40 | Jungti1234 | Was H300 firmware developed? |
| 07:15:45 | ashridah | the BDM port on the board inside the unit will just be a set of pads |
| 07:15:52 | Drumr|away | what about strategic placing of aluminum foil and disected telephone wires? |
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| 07:16:03 | ashridah | Jungti1234: the bootloader is available. the firmware itself isn't overly usable yet |
| 07:16:15 | DMJC | sweet |
| 07:16:20 | DMJC | is the bootloader on the site? |
| 07:16:27 | ashridah | yes |
| 07:16:32 | Annsa | yes, but its only experimental |
| 07:16:32 | ashridah | and it's considered experimental |
| 07:16:35 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 07:16:40 | ashridah | Annsa: have you got a bricked player? |
| 07:16:43 | Annsa | it hasnt been tested on international models |
| 07:16:51 | Annsa | and it could brick your player |
| 07:16:52 | andrewmel | dt can you supply a url? |
| 07:16:58 | Annsa | no, i was just wondering |
| 07:17:12 | DMJC | so what model has it been tested on? |
| 07:17:15 | DMJC | US? |
| 07:17:30 | Annsa | i have bricked my player previously though, and a wiggler is cheaper than a new h300 so i was wondering how hard it would be to save the old rather than buy a new one |
| 07:17:33 | Jungti1234 | Saw that test is available in US firmware. |
| 07:17:48 | Annsa | its only been tested on US |
| 07:18:06 | andrewmel | on a us player, but international firmware. |
| 07:18:38 | Annsa | so, is the bootloader on its own still experimental with a US player? |
| 07:18:41 | DMJC | what's the diff between US and international? |
| 07:18:51 | DMJC | hardware wise |
| 07:19:23 | Annsa | int. i mean* |
| 07:19:24 | Jungti1234 | Is hardware of international and US different? |
| 07:20:04 | ashridah | DMJC: don't know about the hardware, but the US version supports encrypted WMA. |
| 07:20:24 | DMJC | I was the first non-dev to flash their player when the 100 firmware came out |
| 07:20:28 | DMJC | worked fine ever since then |
| 07:20:38 | DMJC | till I sat on the screen |
| 07:20:45 | DMJC | :P |
| 07:20:47 | Jungti1234 | May I test because installing US firmware in Korea? |
| 07:20:47 | Annsa | :P |
| 07:20:54 | andrewmel | u.s. h3xx has a few bits missing that make usbotg inoperative |
| 07:21:08 | andrewmel | this may be necessary for syncing with wmp |
| 07:21:14 | andrewmel | but it is not clear |
| 07:21:25 | DMJC | so basically the US version is crippleware |
| 07:21:27 | DMJC | interesting |
| 07:21:35 | Jungti1234 | Anyone does correct answer to me. |
| 07:21:47 | Annsa | USBOTG doesnt work with my camera although works with my camera hotreader :S |
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| 07:23:42 | DreamTactix291 | well i made a file illustrating the inherant gap of mp3 with LAME gapless headers |
| 07:23:43 | Jungti1234 | -_-; |
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| 07:25:39 | Annsa | does anyone own a modded xbox with Xbox Media Center here? |
| 07:25:45 | ashridah | Jungti1234: the answer is we don't know, and trying it probably isn't a good idea |
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| 07:26:18 | moda|lap | do we have any pictures of rockbox running on h300 other than the ones with the rockbox logo? |
| 07:26:53 | Annsa | im suprised a news item hasnt been put on MR |
| 07:27:22 | andrewmel | it has |
| 07:27:52 | moda|lap | any pics?/ |
| 07:28:00 | ashridah | moda|lap: given that not much but the menus actually work, afaik, probably not. |
| 07:28:08 | ashridah | someone might be able to provide something |
| 07:28:12 | moda|lap | i still want pics :p |
| 07:28:19 | ashridah | some of the plugins probably run, even with the wrong keybnidings |
| 07:28:20 | DMJC | you reckon slashdot will cover the h3XX move? |
| 07:28:31 | moda|lap | h3xx move? |
| 07:29:40 | moda|lap | i dare someone to test it on an intl |
| 07:30:30 | * | moda|lap pokes someone |
| 07:30:36 | DMJC | I will |
| 07:30:41 | DMJC | by wednesday |
| 07:30:48 | moda|lap | bet it bricks |
| 07:30:52 | DMJC | that's when it's due at the latest |
| 07:31:50 | moda|lap | so.... what needs to be done to get it to play music etc and be useable? |
| 07:33:18 | moda|lap | ? |
| 07:36:14 | andrewmel | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort#H3x0 |
| 07:36:28 | sango | i am going to head out night yall |
| 07:36:44 | DreamTactix291 | night |
| 07:36:48 | | Quit sango () |
| 07:36:56 | moda|lap | dare i say it. how long will it be? |
| 07:37:01 | moda|lap | and i know, topic |
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| 07:37:56 | | Join baobab68 [0] (n=ca3421eb@labb.contactor.se) |
| 07:38:33 | baobab68 | i was thinking about the int'l version and the bootloader. |
| 07:38:55 | DMJC | hehehe...heh |
| 07:39:13 | DMJC | government wants to make people work on xmas for no extra pay |
| 07:39:14 | | Join whatboutbob [0] (n=cbd65f76@labb.contactor.se) |
| 07:39:19 | * | DMJC rolls on the floor |
| 07:39:20 | baobab68 | since you can happily install 1.28k on either a US or an int'l H3xx, does it not follow that a patched 1.28K that works on a US model should work on an int'l model |
| 07:39:49 | baobab68 | patched with the rb bootloader, i mean... |
| 07:40:08 | baobab68 | (ain't no way it's happening on *my* int'l model though) |
| 07:40:11 | moda|lap | i like that logic.... but logic doesnt count for anything in these lands of electronics |
| 07:40:12 | moda|lap | ... |
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| 07:41:02 | baobab68 | i will wait dutifully until either Linus says it's ok, or until someone else is brave (dumb) enough to try it. |
| 07:41:20 | moda|lap | like yourself.... |
| 07:41:45 | baobab68 | u mean ur waiting too...? |
| 07:42:00 | moda|lap | yea |
| 07:42:12 | moda|lap | i said... like yourself, as in, you test it... |
| 07:42:19 | baobab68 | i just don't have another $A500 to spend on another device, and have to re-skin it etc |
| 07:42:35 | moda|lap | you can always rma? |
| 07:42:46 | baobab68 | out of warranty... |
| 07:42:55 | moda|lap | hhhh |
| 07:43:10 | baobab68 | best tech purchase I *ever* made... |
| 07:43:12 | moda|lap | so is mine, but, i need some repairs done to mine, but, still not testing it :p |
| 07:43:22 | baobab68 | lol |
| 07:43:55 | moda|lap | someone donate a intl h300 to linus.... |
| 07:43:58 | baobab68 | maybe we can tempt some more souls over from MR and trick someone? :-p |
| 07:44:41 | moda|lap | surely if linus bricks his h300 he can just undo those changes and unbrick it> |
| 07:45:00 | baobab68 | does he have only US hardware though? |
| 07:45:05 | moda|lap | ya |
| 07:45:39 | baobab68 | i thought they were the same except for the DRM key, but I have read there are some different components on the mobo, and maybe the USB ports different... |
| 07:46:50 | * | baobab68 has 13 mins to go on his Ebay auction |
| 07:46:58 | * | baobab68 is feeling v tense |
| 07:47:34 | * | baobab68 appears to be talking to himself |
| 07:48:25 | DMJC | ebay auction? |
| 07:48:31 | DMJC | what are you trying to buy? |
| 07:48:34 | DMJC | or sell |
| 07:49:37 | baobab68 | one of those sonic jewelry cleaners. will be an xmas gift but if it's cool i might get myself one for cleaning spectacles and cd's |
| 07:50:29 | baobab68 | where are all the dev's? there's usually a lot more dev chat going on... |
| 07:50:32 | Jungti1234 | Anyone links manual to me. |
| 07:50:42 | Jungti1234 | Is hard to find. |
| 07:51:17 | baobab68 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.pdf |
| 07:51:54 | baobab68 | time for smoko, too tense....8 mins to go |
| 07:52:01 | Jungti1234 | Does it include iriver h100? |
| 07:53:07 | thegeek | no |
| 07:53:15 | thegeek | there has been no iriver relase so far |
| 07:53:19 | thegeek | so no manual either |
| 07:54:26 | moda|lap | comeon, i want pics of h300 rockbox |
| 07:56:56 | Jungti1234 | me too |
| 07:57:54 | ashridah | baobab68: there's no dev chat on atm because it's a bit early in the am where many of the dev's live |
| 07:58:47 | | Part baobab68 |
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| 08:02:13 | * | baobab68 won the auction |
| 08:02:31 | * | baobab68 has never won an actual auction before, only Buy It Now stuff |
| 08:03:55 | moda|lap | gw |
| 08:04:10 | baobab68 | gw? good work? go 'way? |
| 08:04:17 | moda|lap | good work |
| 08:09:32 | Jungti1234 | :P |
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| 09:25:43 | Zak1392 | has anyone tried the h300 bootloader on an int. model? |
| 09:26:36 | andrewmel | not as far as I know |
| 09:27:15 | Zak1392 | damn... i really want to try it out on mine but I'm scared i might screw it up |
| 09:27:26 | Zak1392 | id rather have somebody else screw it up lol |
| 09:27:37 | * | andrewmel waits patiently |
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| 09:28:41 | Zak1392 | do you have an int. version andrew? |
| 09:29:18 | andrewmel | yes I do |
| 09:29:46 | moda|lap | whats going on? |
| 09:29:50 | Zak1392 | would you want to put rockbox on yours? |
| 09:30:02 | Zak1392 | that was at andrew |
| 09:30:26 | andrewmel | not yet. there is no point. if i want snake i wrote one in pascal ages ago that works nicely. i want music out of my day |
| 09:30:29 | andrewmel | *dap |
| 09:30:37 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 09:30:48 | andrewmel | hey |
| 09:30:54 | Zak1392 | hey |
| 09:30:59 | Zak1392 | hey |
| 09:31:06 | Jungti1234 | As install rock box firmware, is not sonant. |
| 09:31:31 | Jungti1234 | H300 |
| 09:32:17 | Jungti1234 | What should I do? |
| 09:32:29 | moda|lap | wtf... |
| 09:32:33 | Zak1392 | what do you mean? |
| 09:33:08 | andrewmel | sonant? |
| 09:33:27 | Jungti1234 | Did to do bootloader to my H300. |
| 09:33:52 | moda|lap | we dont follow Jungti1234 |
| 09:33:55 | Zak1392 | im confused |
| 09:33:57 | Jungti1234 | It is int. version. |
| 09:33:59 | ashridah | Jungti1234: you tried using the H300 bootloader on your player? or are you asking us if you should? |
| 09:34:05 | ashridah | moda|lap: he's korean, the translation isn't great |
| 09:34:12 | Jungti1234 | -_-; sorry |
| 09:34:19 | moda|lap | ahhh |
| 09:34:24 | moda|lap | it doesnt matter |
| 09:34:28 | ashridah | Jungti1234: the answer is, no-one knows if it'll work on an international version yet |
| 09:34:28 | moda|lap | atleast hes trying :P |
| 09:34:35 | Jungti1234 | Used bootloader. |
| 09:34:43 | moda|lap | unless your crazy enough to do it... |
| 09:34:48 | andrewmel | jungti, did it work? |
| 09:35:10 | Jungti1234 | -_- |
| 09:35:19 | Zak1392 | ? |
| 09:35:22 | Jungti1234 | Do strange moving. |
| 09:35:52 | andrewmel | strange buttons? |
| 09:35:56 | Zak1392 | what moved strange? |
| 09:35:59 | Jungti1234 | Device operates strangely. |
| 09:36:13 | ashridah | Jungti1234: the firmware isn't finished yet |
| 09:36:17 | andrewmel | how strange? |
| 09:36:24 | Zak1392 | do basic things work? |
| 09:36:29 | ashridah | Zak1392: not really, no. |
| 09:36:33 | Jungti1234 | Come on sound option during refreshing. |
| 09:36:53 | Jungti1234 | refreshing -> playing |
| 09:36:59 | Zak1392 | well, sound doesn't work yet |
| 09:37:00 | ashridah | Jungti1234: you're not making a good deal of sense. what are you trying to do, and in which firmware? |
| 09:37:17 | Jungti1234 | oh...T.T |
| 09:37:23 | andrewmel | i think jungti is working through an electronic translator? |
| 09:37:24 | Jungti1234 | 1.28K |
| 09:37:25 | moda|lap | may i suggest babelfish Jungti1234? if its hard to get the message out... |
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| 09:37:37 | andrewmel | hey cbm |
| 09:37:45 | CheeseBurgerMan | Hey |
| 09:37:50 | ashridah | moda|lap: he's USING a translator, it's not a great one, and babelfish is one of the worst ;) |
| 09:38:09 | Jungti1234 | I unuse babelfish. |
| 09:38:12 | Jungti1234 | It is strange. |
| 09:38:19 | andrewmel | jungti, take your time, |
| 09:38:25 | CheeseBurgerMan | I know it is, it's OK. |
| 09:38:26 | ashridah | Jungti1234: the rockbox firmware is not functional on H3x0 yet. we recommend sticking with the iriver firmware. |
| 09:38:29 | andrewmel | try a few different way to say |
| 09:38:34 | ashridah | expect it to operate strangely. |
| 09:38:48 | moda|lap | ashridah: heh, i suck eh |
| 09:38:52 | Zak1392 | @jungti: are you using rockbox or the official firmware? |
| 09:39:06 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 09:39:08 | Jungti1234 | 1.28k |
| 09:39:20 | Zak1392 | so NOT rockbox? |
| 09:39:38 | moda|lap | maybe hes flashed rockbox to the iriver, but he is using the iriver firmware part. |
| 09:39:41 | Jungti1234 | whay? |
| 09:39:43 | Jungti1234 | what? |
| 09:39:57 | thegeek | argh, I hate it when people say "Yes" to a question like that;) |
| 09:40:06 | Jungti1234 | Applied rockbox firmware to 1.28k. |
| 09:40:15 | andrewmel | well put. now clear |
| 09:40:36 | andrewmel | then loaded rockbox on international player? |
| 09:40:44 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 09:40:51 | amiconn | TiMiD: The x11 sim does not yet support colour, that's why a h300 sim only shows the remote. Try the win32 sim, it works. According to linuxstb it also works in wine |
| 09:41:10 | ashridah | Jungti1234: and did you copy a daily build onto the player as well? |
| 09:41:36 | Jungti1234 | I'm sorry, did not understand. |
| 09:42:19 | andrewmel | rockbox + 1.28, good. then add daily build to harddrive? |
| 09:42:38 | Jungti1234 | ashridah : I downloaded at linker that you speak. |
| 09:42:46 | ashridah | Jungti1234: rockbox comes in two parts for the H300. the bootloader, which you've installed. and the firmware itself, ie, the part that plays music |
| 09:43:06 | ashridah | Jungti1234: so you downloaded http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip and unzipped it into your player? |
| 09:43:11 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 09:43:32 | ashridah | okay. you're about where everyone else is, ie, with a player that boots rockbox, but isn't completely finished, because rockbox isn't finished for the H300. |
| 09:43:51 | ashridah | the original firmware can be accessed by holding record while pressing play (or whatever turns on the unit) |
| 09:44:05 | ashridah | (when booting the device, that is) |
| 09:44:24 | Jungti1234 | LCD is lighted freely. |
| 09:44:26 | ashridah | so, at what point does rockbox not work for you? given that you've got an international player. |
| 09:44:34 | ashridah | can you take a picture with a camera? |
| 09:44:56 | Jungti1234 | Take animation. |
| 09:45:07 | Jungti1234 | animation -> video |
| 09:45:16 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 09:45:18 | ashridah | i suppose that will work |
| 09:45:55 | * | andrewmel waits patiently |
| 09:46:13 | andrewmel | @jungti, thanks for taking the time to talk in english |
| 09:46:20 | Jungti1234 | ^^ |
| 09:46:22 | Jungti1234 | H300 does not end. |
| 09:46:27 | Jungti1234 | end -> off |
| 09:46:30 | moda|lap | does not turn off? |
| 09:46:38 | CheeseBurgerMan | Use the reset button. |
| 09:46:41 | moda|lap | use the reset button |
| 09:46:45 | moda|lap | beaten |
| 09:46:45 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 09:47:21 | ashridah | doesn't holding 'stop' work for the H300 yet? |
| 09:47:56 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 09:48:23 | Jungti1234 | Off and start are late. |
| 09:48:50 | Jungti1234 | sorry, start is fast. |
| 09:49:25 | moda|lap | so it boots fast? |
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| 09:50:52 | Jungti1234 | damn |
| 09:52:44 | Jungti1234 | Off does not become well. |
| 09:53:04 | andrewmel | off does not work? |
| 09:54:23 | Jungti1234 | Button malfunctions and moves strangely. |
| 09:54:39 | Zak1392 | can you take a picture? |
| 09:54:55 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 09:55:09 | Zak1392 | that would be great thanks. |
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| 09:55:35 | andrewmel | photo good |
| 09:55:42 | Jungti1234 | Video quality is bad. |
| 09:55:53 | Zak1392 | it doesn't really matter |
| 09:55:57 | Jungti1234 | Is see however. |
| 09:57:40 | Zak1392 | that's fine |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:08 | Jungti1234 | H300 yet off without being done continuously strange moving do. |
| 10:01:01 | Jungti1234 | it's big. |
| 10:01:03 | Zak1392 | so the iriver turned off but does strange movements? |
| 10:01:15 | Jungti1234 | Video file is big. |
| 10:01:27 | andrewmel | big is good, where? |
| 10:01:34 | Zak1392 | it doesn't matter |
| 10:01:45 | Jungti1234 | Is not where there uploads. |
| 10:02:01 | Jungti1234 | ah! wait |
| 10:03:07 | Zak1392 | rapidshare.de can do it |
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| 10:05:32 | Jungti1234 | wow |
| 10:05:37 | Jungti1234 | thank you |
| 10:05:45 | andrewmel | posted video? |
| 10:06:10 | Jungti1234 | uploading. |
| 10:06:13 | Zak1392 | how big is the file? |
| 10:06:20 | Jungti1234 | 32 |
| 10:06:23 | Jungti1234 | 32mb |
| 10:06:34 | andrewmel | link? |
| 10:06:38 | Zak1392 | okay... this might take a while |
| 10:06:38 | * | ashridah whistles |
| 10:06:43 | Jungti1234 | Because the upload speed is slow, must wait 25 minutes. |
| 10:06:46 | * | ashridah will pass, is on dialup |
| 10:06:48 | andrewmel | fine |
| 10:07:02 | Zak1392 | andrew: he's uploading it now |
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| 10:07:36 | Jungti1234 | H300's battery expression is strange. |
| 10:07:39 | andrewmel | Zak: yep. dont want to sound abrupt but trying to make all comments ot jungti simple for translation |
| 10:07:46 | Jungti1234 | expression? -_-; |
| 10:07:51 | Zak1392 | off topic: I made the South Australian state team in baseball! |
| 10:08:11 | ramninja | Congratulations :) |
| 10:08:18 | CheeseBurgerMan | Good job! :D |
| 10:08:19 | Jungti1234 | hehe congratulation |
| 10:08:19 | stu3 | Yarr :-D. |
| 10:08:25 | CheeseBurgerMan | Congrats. :) |
| 10:08:32 | Zak1392 | thanks! |
| 10:08:52 | stu3 | Having said that.....you better make the national team..or else! |
| 10:08:53 | andrewmel | yep, congrats. lots of baseball in SA |
| 10:08:56 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 10:09:01 | Jungti1234 | 20.46 KB/Sec... |
| 10:09:16 | * | CheeseBurgerMan has no idea how close Australian Baseball is to American baseball. |
| 10:09:25 | CheeseBurgerMan | ;) |
| 10:09:27 | andrewmel | CBM: very long way |
| 10:09:34 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 10:09:44 | * | ramninja had no idea aussies played it and is aussie himself |
| 10:09:44 | Zak1392 | now I have to spend about 1200 bucks for travel, accomodation, uniform, etc. |
| 10:09:47 | CheeseBurgerMan | I actually don't know much about either baseball. |
| 10:09:53 | ramninja | :| |
| 10:09:55 | andrewmel | about tenth ranked sport in terms of participation, and only 20 mill population in aus |
| 10:09:58 | CheeseBurgerMan | that's not so cool. |
| 10:10:04 | stu3 | Baseball here is like Rugby League over there. |
| 10:10:12 | andrewmel | but getting to state team is tough |
| 10:10:26 | Zak1392 | i have to travel to lismore, NSW |
| 10:10:38 | andrewmel | zak, are you ssh? |
| 10:10:51 | andrewmel | woops. netiquite alert. |
| 10:11:04 | Zak1392 | ssh? |
| 10:11:10 | ramninja | Secure Shell |
| 10:11:51 | Zak1392 | ??? |
| 10:12:38 | stu3 | Remote access to your computer? |
| 10:12:44 | Jungti1234 | 20 min. |
| 10:13:07 | Zak1392 | stu3: why? |
| 10:13:26 | stu3 | I've no idea, andrewmel was asking. |
| 10:14:04 | andrewmel | i was asking if zak is known by another name on misticriver |
| 10:14:17 | ramninja | i think he may have been talking another ssh becouse that doesnt really make sence |
| 10:14:36 | Zak1392 | andrew: no, why? |
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| 10:15:28 | andrewmel | my oldtimers is kicking in and i am mixing my conversations up |
| 10:15:49 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 10:15:51 | CheeseBurgerMan | :o |
| 10:16:03 | Zak1392 | is ssh a person? |
| 10:16:04 | stu3 | Ah, that makes more sense. |
| 10:18:52 | Zak1392 | well, anyway... i think i may be a starting pitcher for the baseball team |
| 10:19:11 | CheeseBurgerMan | Wow. :D |
| 10:19:35 | Zak1392 | can you say 'tv spots'! lol |
| 10:20:02 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 10:20:40 | Zak1392 | baseball here is kind of different than baseball in America though |
| 10:20:54 | Zak1392 | i never pitched in America though |
| 10:21:39 | CheeseBurgerMan | I don't play baseball. |
| 10:21:44 | CheeseBurgerMan | So I haven't either. ;) |
| 10:23:08 | Zak1392 | in America i was a third baseman but when i moved here, nobody on my team had a hope in pitching so i started pitching and right now im doing a good job |
| 10:23:24 | Zak1392 | really good job |
| 10:23:30 | CheeseBurgerMan | Obviously. |
| 10:23:38 | Zak1392 | lol |
| 10:23:39 | CheeseBurgerMan | Or you wouldn't be ont he team. ;) |
| 10:23:42 | CheeseBurgerMan | on the* |
| 10:24:04 | Zak1392 | im hoping to make the national team |
| 10:24:09 | Zak1392 | thats my dream |
| 10:24:17 | Zak1392 | then the pros lol |
| 10:24:20 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 10:24:33 | CheeseBurgerMan | Practice practice practice.... ;) |
| 10:24:51 | Zak1392 | too lazy... lol |
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| 10:25:06 | Jungti1234 | 70% |
| 10:25:38 | Zak1392 | okay, thanks for the info jungti ;) |
| 10:25:39 | baobab68 | was just reading the live log. Jungti - did we establish that you upgraded an International version of the H300 with Rockbox loader? |
| 10:25:59 | Zak1392 | yep |
| 10:26:03 | Zak1392 | i think |
| 10:26:19 | baobab68 | the man is a risk taker that is for sure. |
| 10:26:28 | baobab68 | but that's cool. |
| 10:26:32 | ashridah | baobab68: yeah, but i wouldn't assume that it worked perfectly, he's uploading a video of what his player is currently doing, since he's not sure what is failing for him (and english isn't his first language) |
| 10:27:00 | baobab68 | how about a hit of 'reset'? |
| 10:27:14 | Zak1392 | he says it does strange moving |
| 10:27:41 | baobab68 | excuse my enthusiasm - i have followed RB very closely for about 6 months. i find the last couple of days very exciting. |
| 10:28:02 | Zak1392 | same here :) |
| 10:28:12 | baobab68 | am in awe of someone who can examine the hardware and re-write the OS in low-level coldfire code.... |
| 10:28:24 | baobab68 | i can just about record a macro in MS Word.... |
| 10:28:31 | CheeseBurgerMan | Some ones.... ;) |
| 10:28:35 | ashridah | baobab68: the devil is in the detail |
| 10:28:39 | Jungti1234 | T.T |
| 10:28:42 | CheeseBurgerMan | Rockbox is a team effort. :) |
| 10:28:47 | ashridah | baobab68: mostly the hard part is finding documentation on the components |
| 10:28:47 | Jungti1234 | Off does not become yet. |
| 10:29:01 | ashridah | (which is why any portalplayer based hardware is unlikely to be supported any time soon) |
| 10:29:10 | Zak1392 | have you tried the RESET button? |
| 10:29:15 | baobab68 | CBM - I didn't mean to disparage all non-Linus people. |
| 10:29:17 | Jungti1234 | Backlight is lighted yet. |
| 10:29:42 | baobab68 | i am in awe of Christi's doco too.... and I think RB will turn the ipod world on its head too |
| 10:29:44 | Zak1392 | does the RESET button do anything> |
| 10:30:09 | Jungti1234 | Off is success by RESET button. |
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| 10:30:14 | baobab68 | whew |
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| 10:30:24 | Superman | hi |
| 10:30:29 | Zak1392 | hey |
| 10:30:31 | baobab68 | hi supe |
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| 10:30:46 | baobab68 | jungti - you are korean? |
| 10:30:52 | Superman | just read the irc logs, someone is uploading a video of a h300 with rockbox? |
| 10:30:59 | CheeseBurgerMan | yes... |
| 10:31:02 | Jungti1234 | baobab68: yes |
| 10:31:05 | Zak1392 | jungti: can you boot up into the official iriver firmware? |
| 10:31:23 | baobab68 | anyang haseo... |
| 10:31:27 | CheeseBurgerMan | Hold the record button when you turn it on. |
| 10:31:27 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 10:31:31 | CheeseBurgerMan | OK |
| 10:31:33 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 10:31:40 | Zak1392 | what? |
| 10:31:42 | Jungti1234 | annyong haseyo |
| 10:31:59 | baobab68 | i was close... |
| 10:32:04 | Zak1392 | ??? |
| 10:32:11 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 10:32:24 | baobab68 | Zak - I think it means 'hello' |
| 10:32:31 | Superman | i have a h300 eu is that the same as a it? |
| 10:32:32 | Jungti1234 | Booted to original firmware. |
| 10:33:00 | Superman | *International |
| 10:33:02 | Jungti1234 | Original firmware is normally. |
| 10:33:13 | Zak1392 | thats good |
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| 10:33:17 | baobab68 | jungti - so you have a Korean H300, with 1.28K, and have used the Rockbox loader successfully. |
| 10:33:26 | Zak1392 | how about that video? |
| 10:33:38 | | Quit Mxm`Pas`Bien (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 10:33:39 | Jungti1234 | Upload completion |
| 10:34:03 | Zak1392 | great! can you post the link? |
| 10:34:09 | Jungti1234 | It's mov file. |
| 10:34:15 | Jungti1234 | http://rapidshare.de/files/7889196/DSCN2196.MOV.html |
| 10:34:30 | Zak1392 | thanks! |
| 10:34:47 | andrewmel | thanks |
| 10:34:59 | baobab68 | thanks here too |
| 10:35:00 | Superman | thanks |
| 10:35:11 | Jungti1234 | baobab68: Isn't successful. |
| 10:35:40 | Zak1392 | well, iriver works fine gut is really glitchy |
| 10:35:50 | Zak1392 | *but |
| 10:35:50 | baobab68 | you mean Rockbox does not run very well yet. |
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| 10:36:03 | baobab68 | zak - my gut is glitchy too sometimes |
| 10:36:08 | Zak1392 | yep |
| 10:36:09 | baobab68 | :-) |
| 10:36:14 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
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| 10:36:37 | Zak1392 | he says the iriver firmware works fine |
| 10:36:55 | Zak1392 | lol |
| 10:37:21 | Jungti1234 | Battery is full, is not so in rockbox firmware. |
| 10:37:36 | Zak1392 | now i have to wait another seven and a half minutes for the download to finish... |
| 10:37:47 | Jungti1234 | One is more. |
| 10:37:52 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 10:39:06 | Jungti1234 | Appliance stopped. |
| 10:39:25 | Zak1392 | what? |
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| 10:40:23 | Superman | uhh file doesn't play here, wich player i need to use? |
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| 10:40:40 | Zak1392 | quicktime |
| 10:40:45 | Superman | ah ok |
| 10:40:46 | Jungti1234 | quicktime |
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| 10:42:46 | Zak1392 | 2:40 left to download |
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| 10:43:08 | Superman | 2:00 left to download quicktime |
| 10:43:21 | Maxime | Superman: quicktilme alternative + media player classic ! |
| 10:43:23 | Zak1392 | 2 minutes to download file! |
| 10:43:24 | Maxime | this is great :p |
| 10:43:31 | Membrillo | whats the vid? i saw it in the logs i was looking at |
| 10:44:36 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 10:44:47 | Jungti1234 | LCD is lighted alone. |
| 10:45:32 | Jungti1234 | There is more 3 files. |
| 10:47:20 | ghode|afk | you mean lcd is always on? |
| 10:47:40 | ghode|afk | backlight i mean? |
| 10:47:40 | baobab68 | you guys must have 'real' broadband. i have "aussie" broadband - 512KB sigh |
| 10:48:05 | Jungti1234 | backlight = LCD |
| 10:48:39 | andrewmel | this place is awash with aussies!!! |
| 10:49:11 | Zak1392 | i grew up most of my life in America though... |
| 10:49:16 | Zak1392 | not like that means anything... |
| 10:49:34 | Jungti1234 | T.T |
| 10:50:13 | andrewmel | ahhhhh, zak, now i know, you live near caves!!! |
| 10:50:21 | andrewmel | oldtimers |
| 10:50:24 | andrewmel | disease |
| 10:50:25 | baobab68 | we have taste in DAPs, that's all |
| 10:50:27 | andrewmel | kicking |
| 10:50:30 | andrewmel | somethinggnadkf |
| 10:50:51 | Zak1392 | the Naracoorte Caves? |
| 10:50:56 | baobab68 | 4:30 remaining, sigh |
| 10:51:08 | andrewmel | yep, those ones! |
| 10:51:11 | CheeseBurgerMan | No, it's because sensible people are in bed everywhere else. ;) |
| 10:51:26 | baobab68 | where are u cbm? |
| 10:51:29 | Zak1392 | andrew: have you been there? |
| 10:51:42 | Membrillo | im in Aussie |
| 10:51:49 | Membrillo | and have 256k broadband |
| 10:51:54 | CheeseBurgerMan | I'm in the US. |
| 10:51:57 | CheeseBurgerMan | It's ~5 AM |
| 10:52:07 | baobab68 | (is there a way to quote someone's name like that or do ppl just type it in?) |
| 10:52:09 | andrewmel | i lived in mt gambier for 1 1/2 years |
| 10:52:16 | baobab68 | ewwwww.... |
| 10:52:19 | baobab68 | :-) |
| 10:52:25 | Jungti1234 | Can't operate. |
| 10:52:28 | Membrillo | although it got dropped to 56k by my ISP because ive downloaded over 12gb this month |
| 10:52:44 | baobab68 | how much u pay membrillo? |
| 10:52:46 | thegeek | hehe |
| 10:52:55 | thegeek | I download about 15gb / 48 hours |
| 10:53:00 | Zak1392 | yeah, andrew, i know. have you been down in any of the caves? |
| 10:53:04 | thegeek | 100mbit is eeevil |
| 10:53:20 | | Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 10:53:32 | andrewmel | yep, but nearly 20 years ago |
| 10:53:41 | Membrillo | well 60 bucks i think. But im eligible for 200mbit for 50 bucks a month because im on the same block as a telephone exchange |
| 10:53:53 | thegeek | 200mbit? |
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| 10:54:11 | Membrillo | wait |
| 10:54:13 | thegeek | you mean 20? |
| 10:54:14 | baobab68 | we get 25gb for $39.95 it pays to shop around, but 200mbit for $50.00, yummmy |
| 10:54:17 | Membrillo | 20mbit lol |
| 10:54:20 | thegeek | ;) |
| 10:54:27 | Membrillo | im not sure |
| 10:54:34 | thegeek | never heard about copper-based > 25 mbit |
| 10:54:34 | Membrillo | ive 2000 kilobytes per second |
| 10:54:47 | Membrillo | its* |
| 10:55:00 | baobab68 | "ye canna change the laws of physics cap'n) |
| 10:55:16 | baobab68 | 0:04 remaining |
| 10:55:24 | andrewmel | laws of physics are just our current best descriptions, not laws |
| 10:55:49 | thegeek | that's not what it means;) |
| 10:56:00 | thegeek | point is you can't change the "true" laws of physics |
| 10:56:13 | thegeek | our current theories does not really factor into the equation at all;) |
| 10:56:20 | baobab68 | it actually just means that dilithium crystals can only be pushed so far |
| 10:56:25 | thegeek | hehe |
| 10:57:06 | andrewmel | but scotty can always get 120% |
| 10:57:19 | Membrillo | beam me up scotty |
| 10:57:32 | baobab68 | and we won't discuss Lt Sulu given current circumstances on MR. |
| 10:57:38 | baobab68 | :-) |
| 10:57:38 | * | CheeseBurgerMan beams Membrillo up. |
| 10:57:52 | thegeek | oh god |
| 10:57:54 | thegeek | cheeseburger |
| 10:58:02 | CheeseBurgerMan | Hello... |
| 10:58:03 | thegeek | I'm daamn hungry |
| 10:58:06 | CheeseBurgerMan | hehe |
| 10:58:10 | thegeek | ;) |
| 10:58:26 | Membrillo | where did you say your from Andrew? |
| 10:58:28 | CheeseBurgerMan | Well, if it's any comfort, I'm heading to bed soon. :P |
| 10:58:36 | andrewmel | all over australia |
| 10:58:40 | Membrillo | fair enough |
| 10:58:44 | Membrillo | im in newcastle |
| 10:58:52 | baobab68 | so what we have is a clip of Jungti's *white* H3xx, showing some RB screens and Jungti trying to turn it off. |
| 10:59:04 | thegeek | actually |
| 10:59:06 | Jungti1234 | Did you see everybody? |
| 10:59:16 | thegeek | it looks a lot like the first h1xx builds |
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| 10:59:18 | DreamTactix291 | i want to go to australia one day |
| 10:59:31 | baobab68 | yes Jungti. But the question is does that means it's safe? |
| 10:59:39 | Jungti1234 | Back Light speaks that turned off while was lighted yet. |
| 10:59:51 | baobab68 | for an int'l H3xx? |
| 10:59:57 | Jungti1234 | yes |
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| 11:00:35 | baobab68 | Jungti - any languages other than Korean and English? French by any chance? |
| 11:00:42 | Jungti1234 | english |
| 11:00:46 | baobab68 | Chinese? |
| 11:00:53 | Jungti1234 | what? |
| 11:01:12 | baobab68 | trying to find a language that we both speak. |
| 11:01:16 | Jungti1234 | Speak Japanese. |
| 11:01:36 | Jungti1234 | There are more 2 videoes that see. |
| 11:01:43 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:01:43 | andrewmel | DT speaks japanese |
| 11:01:49 | baobab68 | konnichiwa |
| 11:02:02 | baobab68 | origato gozai mas |
| 11:02:10 | Membrillo | Me so horny, me love you loooong time |
| 11:02:10 | Jungti1234 | nono |
| 11:02:17 | Jungti1234 | ª¡ |
| 11:02:35 | Jungti1234 | Can not you see? |
| 11:02:42 | thegeek | [11:02:28] [Jungti1234] ª¡ |
| 11:02:44 | baobab68 | membrillo - shame. :-) |
| 11:02:54 | baobab68 | "same same" |
| 11:03:08 | Jungti1234 | °¡ |
| 11:03:12 | thegeek | hehe |
| 11:03:15 | thegeek | it wont work Jungti1234 |
| 11:03:19 | thegeek | atleast not for most clients |
| 11:03:47 | Jungti1234 | ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä. |
| 11:04:05 | Jungti1234 | annyonghaseyo. |
| 11:04:09 | Jungti1234 | hello. |
| 11:04:15 | baobab68 | ni hao |
| 11:04:17 | CheeseBurgerMan | hello |
| 11:04:17 | baobab68 | bonjour |
| 11:04:23 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
| 11:04:29 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 11:04:48 | DreamTactix291 | you speak japanese right? |
| 11:05:01 | Jungti1234 | baobab68: Do you know many languages? |
| 11:05:04 | DreamTactix291 | i'm like very rusty lately, but i should do ok |
| 11:05:09 | andrewmel | video, domo arigato jungti san |
| 11:05:18 | Jungti1234 | A little. |
| 11:05:24 | Zak1392 | ??? |
| 11:05:25 | Jungti1234 | Speak Japanese a little. |
| 11:05:30 | DreamTactix291 | a little is better than none |
| 11:05:42 | baobab68 | jungti: english, chinese, french |
| 11:05:47 | CheeseBurgerMan | Better than I do. :) |
| 11:05:52 | Membrillo | *sings* i like chineeeeese... I like chineeeeeeeese |
| 11:05:53 | Jungti1234 | wow chinese? |
| 11:06:03 | baobab68 | dui. |
| 11:06:05 | Jungti1234 | If can speak Chinese, Korean can do. |
| 11:06:15 | DreamTactix291 | i don't know chinese |
| 11:06:16 | baobab68 | bu shi. |
| 11:06:17 | Jungti1234 | Korean is easier than Chinese. |
| 11:06:36 | andrewmel | dt can you ask him to post video showing ports or buttons so we can tell if the player is international? |
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| 11:07:00 | Jungti1234 | Translation is difficult. |
| 11:07:08 | Jungti1234 | Write right word. |
| 11:07:56 | Jungti1234 | ÞçªÏ rockboxª¬ÕÞª¤ªÇª¹. |
| 11:08:23 | DreamTactix291 | it's not showing up here right on my end |
| 11:08:31 | DreamTactix291 | i don't know what encoding you're using for your japanese |
| 11:08:37 | baobab68 | jungti: can only use english characters here. hangul and kana won't work |
| 11:08:44 | Jungti1234 | ÞçªÏ«é«Ã«¯«¯«Ð«Ã«¯«¹ª¬ÕÞª¤ªÇª¹. |
| 11:08:59 | DreamTactix291 | maybe my kana will work for him |
| 11:09:14 | Jungti1234 | All I can see. |
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| 11:10:01 | baobab68 | on US version, the play button says ">" and "ON" am I right? |
| 11:10:05 | CheeseBurgerMan | Yes. |
| 11:10:11 | Zak1392 | i used to learn french |
| 11:10:16 | DreamTactix291 | “Ç‚Ý‚Å‚«‚Ü‚·‚©H |
| 11:10:38 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 11:10:47 | baobab68 | Jungti: Play button says ">" or says ">" and "ON"? |
| 11:10:51 | Jungti1234 | It is not right. |
| 11:10:56 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 11:11:13 | Jungti1234 | ¢ºll |
| 11:11:25 | baobab68 | zak: vous avez etudié au lycee? |
| 11:11:31 | | Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) |
| 11:11:35 | | Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 11:11:39 | Jungti1234 | vous avez etudi?au lycee? |
| 11:11:58 | amiconn | hi LinusN |
| 11:12:00 | Jungti1234 | There is a little word that can't see. |
| 11:12:02 | ghostface24 | Oui, je etudie au lycee |
| 11:12:08 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 11:12:11 | LinusN | hi |
| 11:12:14 | ghostface24 | hello |
| 11:12:23 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 11:12:23 | Jungti1234 | http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html |
| 11:12:31 | LinusN | seems i made a good move to go to sleep right after releasing the bootloader :-) |
| 11:12:41 | Jungti1234 | It's another video. |
| 11:12:43 | DreamTactix291 | lol |
| 11:12:45 | baobab68 | it's chaos |
| 11:12:51 | DreamTactix291 | cheers on v6 :) |
| 11:13:02 | Membrillo | cheers indeed :P |
| 11:13:03 | LinusN | DreamTactix291: does it work well? |
| 11:13:28 | Zak1392 | hey linus, should rockbox work on an int h300? any big diffs? |
| 11:13:28 | DreamTactix291 | no issues at all |
| 11:13:33 | DreamTactix291 | if anything happens i'll let you know |
| 11:13:38 | | Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD6003.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:13:39 | DreamTactix291 | i didn't have any issues with v5 either |
| 11:13:44 | DreamTactix291 | used every day |
| 11:13:48 | | Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) |
| 11:13:48 | | Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD6003.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:13:54 | * | amiconn just added 2 missing remote features locally |
| 11:13:55 | LinusN | Zak1392: it *should* work fine |
| 11:13:57 | amiconn | 'Backlight on when charging' and 'Caption backlight' for the remote :) |
| 11:14:17 | Membrillo | so really your just covering yourself if something bad does happen right Linus? |
| 11:14:31 | baobab68 | i can't download jungti's video - download limits on the site |
| 11:14:32 | Membrillo | you can say "well i hadnt tested on int." |
| 11:14:45 | Membrillo | not that it should |
| 11:14:47 | Jungti1234 | what? |
| 11:14:48 | DreamTactix291 | hearing about H3xx rockbox takes me back to when we first got our first bootloader for the H1xx |
| 11:14:55 | Jungti1234 | http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html |
| 11:15:36 | | Join lugan [0] (n=irc@tor/session/x-118b9d57a335533b) |
| 11:15:42 | LinusN | Membrillo: from the IriverBoot wiki page: "Note! The H300 bootloader has only been tested on a US model!" |
| 11:16:23 | baobab68 | until now... |
| 11:16:41 | baobab68 | we *think* Jungti's just done the testing on the int'l model |
| 11:16:46 | ghostface24 | Jungti, how about using Putfile for your videos |
| 11:17:01 | Membrillo | LinusN: yeah thats what i thought. do you know when you'll be getting your hands on an int. model? |
| 11:17:14 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 11:17:36 | DreamTactix291 | if i had lots of money i'd buy one and donate it |
| 11:17:39 | DreamTactix291 | sadly i don't have lots of money |
| 11:18:20 | baobab68 | maybe someone will brick one and donate that? :-) |
| 11:18:22 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: I read short time ago. |
| 11:18:26 | Membrillo | make money :P working the streets should rake in some cash |
| 11:18:39 | DreamTactix291 | well i have a job |
| 11:18:43 | DreamTactix291 | but i have bills too |
| 11:19:01 | Membrillo | fair enough. Ill be happy to work the streets |
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| 11:19:06 | Membrillo | :D |
| 11:19:20 | DreamTactix291 | i'm watching the video now |
| 11:19:26 | DreamTactix291 | wow the text is small on an H3xx screen |
| 11:19:42 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 11:19:54 | DreamTactix291 | that's definitely rockbox |
| 11:20:05 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: Are no you int'l model? |
| 11:20:06 | Coldtoast | any of you h300 users tested the bootloader? |
| 11:20:19 | LinusN | Jungti1234: i have the us model |
| 11:20:29 | | Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc126.b.pppool.de) |
| 11:20:33 | Zak1392 | do i just patch the iriver firmware with the patcher and put these files on my iriver: http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip?? |
| 11:20:33 | Jungti1234 | Only US model? |
| 11:20:41 | LinusN | Zak1392: yes |
| 11:21:06 | Jungti1234 | Do you operate normally in US model? |
| 11:21:09 | Zak1392 | what are the .bin files for? |
| 11:21:18 | baobab68 | Jungti - so you have International model? Definitely? |
| 11:21:19 | LinusN | a word of warning to you all: running rockbox on your player *may* be bad for it |
| 11:21:38 | Jungti1234 | baobab68: yes |
| 11:21:45 | lugan | you guys (non developers) need to calm down and let Linus work |
| 11:21:50 | Zak1392 | linus: how? |
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| 11:22:16 | baobab68 | even though it boots, ATA drivers and stuff could still damage the disk, correct? |
| 11:22:23 | Raskolnikov^ | hi guys |
| 11:22:29 | LinusN | i haven't found out all the details about the hardware so it's very likely that there is a i/o collision/conflict somewhere |
| 11:22:42 | Raskolnikov^ | just for information |
| 11:22:55 | Raskolnikov^ | i've succesfully booted rockbox on a h320 eu version |
| 11:23:10 | LinusN | it *should* be allright, but you never know |
| 11:23:12 | | Quit Lost-tv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 11:23:16 | Membrillo | So rockbox could have possible physical effects on the HDD? |
| 11:23:20 | baobab68 | "the genie is out of the bottle now" |
| 11:23:22 | muesli_- | whee Raskolnikov^ |
| 11:23:25 | LinusN | Membrillo: not the hdd |
| 11:23:29 | DreamTactix291 | Linus: how different is the hardware between an H1xx and H3xx out of curiosity? |
| 11:23:57 | Raskolnikov^ | i don't know if someone else already did that |
| 11:24:02 | LinusN | the "core" stuff is the same, like cpu, memory, flash etc |
| 11:24:14 | Raskolnikov^ | but i thought it might be an interesting information for all of you |
| 11:24:18 | Jungti1234 | LinusN : Is a song played in US model? |
| 11:24:18 | baobab68 | Raskolnikov - nobody has admitted it |
| 11:24:19 | Raskolnikov^ | tought |
| 11:24:19 | Membrillo | just the LCD and USBOTG stuff mainly |
| 11:24:22 | LinusN | most stuff is similar |
| 11:24:30 | Raskolnikov^ | baobab68: : i'm kinda crazy ;) |
| 11:24:33 | DreamTactix291 | that's what my understanding was |
| 11:24:35 | baobab68 | Jungti - I don't think so |
| 11:24:47 | Coldtoast | LinusN: with the h300, what's the deal with the Data/Charge USB mode? |
| 11:24:51 | LinusN | but they have moved things around, so many things aren't controlled by the same port pins |
| 11:24:59 | DreamTactix291 | ah |
| 11:25:04 | LinusN | Coldtoast: you can charge from usb |
| 11:25:10 | Coldtoast | is ther ea way to make it so anotehr key combo will boot the device with USB set to Charge? |
| 11:25:24 | muesli_- | Raskolnikov^ how is it...what are your experiences, what can already you do? |
| 11:25:25 | Coldtoast | yeah. but how about with having to switch it? |
| 11:25:25 | LinusN | Jungti1234: the audio does not work yet |
| 11:25:32 | Jungti1234 | http://rapidshare.de/files/7890601/DSCN2203.MOV.html |
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| 11:25:41 | Coldtoast | cos you have to set wither Charge or Data mode int eh iriver FW |
| 11:25:48 | DreamTactix291 | Jungti1234: it's going to be a while before audio works |
| 11:25:49 | Jungti1234 | It's another video. |
| 11:25:50 | DreamTactix291 | trust me |
| 11:25:52 | Zak1392 | linus: why are you only recommending that developers use it? |
| 11:25:53 | Raskolnikov^ | i'm a java developer so i thing i won't be very useful in developing rockbox :P |
| 11:26:03 | Raskolnikov^ | but i can help stress testing it |
| 11:26:17 | Jungti1234 | DT291: yes |
| 11:26:23 | LinusN | Coldtoast: you mean you have to press ON to go to data mode? |
| 11:26:25 | baobab68 | raskol: so you can boot to RB, and then reboot to original Iriver firmware ok? |
| 11:26:36 | Raskolnikov^ | baobab68: yes |
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| 11:26:48 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 11:26:51 | DreamTactix291 | rockbox is dual boot |
| 11:26:57 | LinusN | Zak1392: because it doesn't work, and may potentionally damage your player |
| 11:26:58 | baobab68 | it's awfully tempting. |
| 11:27:02 | Coldtoast | LinusN: well, one of my friends takes his h300 to work and a couple of times, the battery has run out of juice and there wasn't enough power to boot the device and change from Data to Charge |
| 11:27:17 | Raskolnikov^ | baobab68: but you won't do much with rockbox at the moment |
| 11:27:25 | LinusN | oh, i thought it always booted in charge mode |
| 11:27:31 | Coldtoast | don't think so |
| 11:27:36 | baobab68 | i know, but it's "cool".... :-) |
| 11:27:39 | LinusN | (i've never used my h300 with the original fw) |
| 11:27:40 | webguest48 | Hi all - like so many others I'd like to thank LinusN for all his work on the H300 firmware.. I personally can't wait........ |
| 11:27:41 | muesli_- | Raskolnikov^ did you check the plugins? ->.rock |
| 11:27:42 | Raskolnikov^ | damn cool :) |
| 11:27:54 | Coldtoast | not from what he was saying. he said it was impossible to change to Charge mode |
| 11:27:57 | Raskolnikov^ | muesli_-: no haven't tried yet |
| 11:28:06 | Raskolnikov^ | i've tried to switch theme |
| 11:28:06 | muesli_- | do it pls :D |
| 11:28:09 | Raskolnikov^ | and it worked |
| 11:28:11 | Raskolnikov^ | ok |
| 11:28:13 | Raskolnikov^ | wait |
| 11:28:14 | Coldtoast | Raskolnikov^: can you confirm that? |
| 11:28:19 | Coldtoast | about the USB mode? |
| 11:28:22 | Raskolnikov^ | i take the unit |
| 11:28:43 | Raskolnikov^ | Coldtoast: sorry i wasn't following your discussion |
| 11:28:44 | baobab68 | (how do you quote ppl's names like that...) |
| 11:28:48 | Coldtoast | if you set it to Data mode, when you reset the device, it boots with USB in Data mode, right? |
| 11:28:57 | Raskolnikov^ | mmm |
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| 11:29:26 | Raskolnikov^ | i don't undestand what you mean.. |
| 11:29:33 | Raskolnikov^ | anyway rockbox boot damn fast!! |
| 11:29:39 | Coldtoast | on your h320, change the USB mode to Data |
| 11:29:41 | Zak1392 | if my iriver stuffs up, is there any easy way to fix it? |
| 11:29:47 | _FireFly_ | baobab68: it depends if your irc-client cad do it: simple type the first chars of the name and press the tab-key |
| 11:29:48 | Coldtoast | you can select either Charge mode or Data |
| 11:29:55 | DreamTactix291 | Zak1392: probably not |
| 11:29:59 | Raskolnikov^ | ah, right |
| 11:30:05 | baobab68 | thanks _FireFly_ |
| 11:30:08 | Raskolnikov^ | i've never used usb to recharge it |
| 11:30:18 | baobab68 | (worked using RB's webclient) |
| 11:30:18 | Coldtoast | if you set it to Data, when you reset the device, is it still in Data mode when you boot? |
| 11:30:22 | DreamTactix291 | i use USB to charge my PMP a lot |
| 11:30:50 | muesli_- | Raskolnikov^ check starfield.rock and make a picture pls :D |
| 11:30:55 | Coldtoast | it'd be excellent if you had another key combo so that when it boots, it sets USB to Charge |
| 11:31:06 | muesli_- | .rockbox/rock/starfield.rock |
| 11:31:15 | Raskolnikov^ | ok |
| 11:31:52 | baobab68 | well once again all, it's quite cool where this is at. i think i will wait a few days and see if ppl's screens, hdd's, headphones and data ports survive, before doing mine. |
| 11:31:54 | Raskolnikov^ | is that a screensaver? |
| 11:31:59 | muesli_- | kind of |
| 11:32:03 | Raskolnikov^ | ok |
| 11:32:06 | muesli_- | just eye candy |
| 11:32:07 | Raskolnikov^ | it works ;) |
| 11:32:12 | muesli_- | piiic :D |
| 11:32:18 | Raskolnikov^ | ok |
| 11:32:18 | muesli_- | is it in color? |
| 11:32:23 | Raskolnikov^ | no |
| 11:32:39 | muesli_- | mandelbrot.rock ? |
| 11:32:50 | baobab68 | to all in the RB team - "keep up the good work." |
| 11:33:26 | * | baobab68 is a Word master available to help with doco if needed |
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| 11:33:40 | Raskolnikov^ | can't find that muesli_- |
| 11:33:47 | muesli_- | same directory |
| 11:34:09 | Raskolnikov^ | snake works :) |
| 11:34:15 | lugan | check the irc log, last I heard mandelbrot crashed RB |
| 11:34:17 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) |
| 11:34:29 | baobab68 | and good night to all. happy bungee jumping... |
| 11:34:38 | | Part baobab68 |
| 11:34:45 | Raskolnikov^ | there's no mandelbrot |
| 11:35:02 | Coldtoast | I reckon it'd be cool to have, like, an "fm" dir or somethign where you can dump bitmaps named the same thing as any FM presets so the FM WPS can display station logos when you select FM presets |
| 11:35:11 | Raskolnikov^ | bounce has some color |
| 11:36:06 | Membrillo | Coldtoast: or maybe you could have a system where its embedded in the preset file like how album covers can be embedded in ID3 tags |
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| 11:36:18 | muesli_- | Raskolnikov^ can you take a pic |
| 11:36:21 | muesli_- | ah |
| 11:36:33 | muesli_- | LinusN said cube shall look fantastic |
| 11:36:35 | Raskolnikov^ | i'm doing |
| 11:36:38 | Raskolnikov^ | ok |
| 11:36:43 | Raskolnikov^ | let's try cube |
| 11:37:07 | Raskolnikov^ | nice :) |
| 11:37:38 | Raskolnikov^ | i'm taking pics with the cell phone |
| 11:37:39 | muesli_- | can you take a pic of it? at least this one |
| 11:37:48 | Raskolnikov^ | so i dunno what it will come out |
| 11:37:54 | Raskolnikov^ | the camera battery is dead |
| 11:38:00 | Raskolnikov^ | gotta recharge that |
| 11:38:16 | LinusN | another word of advice: please don't flood this channel with information on h300 crashes or things that don't work on the h300 |
| 11:38:31 | LinusN | except if you are a developer that is |
| 11:38:36 | Raskolnikov^ | sure i won't |
| 11:38:46 | muesli_- | maybe we need #rockbox.lounge |
| 11:38:56 | Raskolnikov^ | can i talk about the wonderful things that actually works? :) |
| 11:39:01 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:39:18 | Zak1392 | raskolnikov: have you tried turning it off and stuff like that? |
| 11:39:42 | LinusN | poweroff may or may not work :-) |
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| 11:39:54 | _FireFly_ | LinusN: i will put a patch on tracker for the additional remote-lcd-settings should i also include a seperate selection for scrollbar and statusbar on the remote ?? |
| 11:40:04 | Raskolnikov^ | Zak1392: turned off right now |
| 11:40:07 | Zak1392 | linux: why is that? |
| 11:40:12 | LinusN | to be absolutely sure that it has powered off, push the reset button after powering off |
| 11:40:15 | Raskolnikov^ | muesli_-: this pics are crappy |
| 11:40:15 | Zak1392 | *linus |
| 11:40:27 | linuxstb__ | Morning all. Are we planning to make the rockbox.target file install into the .rockbox directory now? Or is it going to be up to the user to move it? |
| 11:40:30 | muesli_- | damn it |
| 11:40:33 | Raskolnikov^ | ok LinusN, i try it |
| 11:40:34 | LinusN | Zak1392: because i haven't verified that my way is the right way |
| 11:40:49 | Raskolnikov^ | pushed the reset button |
| 11:40:54 | Raskolnikov^ | nothing happened |
| 11:41:02 | LinusN | linuxstb__: we will probably move it eventually |
| 11:41:16 | LinusN | i just prepared the boot loader to support it in case we wanted it that way |
| 11:41:28 | LinusN | Raskolnikov^: that's to be expected |
| 11:41:48 | LinusN | but now you know its off for real :-) |
| 11:42:09 | Raskolnikov^ | good :) |
| 11:42:16 | linuxstb__ | I'm just thinking it could cause problems if someone has an old rockbox.iriver in their .rockbox folder and then upgrades... |
| 11:42:28 | Raskolnikov^ | wait a minute, go to try it the camera has some charge |
| 11:42:55 | LinusN | linuxstb__: it looks in .rockbox first |
| 11:43:10 | linuxstb__ | Exactly. I mean the current installation to the root can cause problems. |
| 11:43:15 | LinusN | linuxstb__: you have a serious split personality disorder |
| 11:43:28 | linuxstb__ | No, I have a seriously unreliable ADSL connection.... |
| 11:43:37 | LinusN | linuxstb__: no, it looks in .rockbox *first* |
| 11:43:52 | LinusN | so any stray rockbox.iriver in the root will be ignored |
| 11:43:57 | linuxstb__ | Yes, but the rockbox.zip contains the rockbox.iriver in the root. |
| 11:44:02 | linuxstb__ | IIUC |
| 11:44:29 | LinusN | ah you mean if the user moves it to .rockbox himself? |
| 11:44:36 | linuxstb__ | Yes. |
| 11:44:38 | LinusN | then that's his problem, not ours |
| 11:45:21 | linuxstb__ | I'm just thinking the priority for the bootloader should match the default for rockbox.zip. |
| 11:45:38 | linuxstb__ | But you're right - if the user moves things, it is his/her fault. |
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| 11:45:46 | LinusN | how is the bootloader supposed to know when the .zip changes? |
| 11:46:20 | _FireFly_ | LinusN: ?? |
| 11:46:31 | LinusN | the bootloader is prepared to handle the move from root to .rockbox in the zip |
| 11:47:22 | Raskolnikov^ | muesli_- , the battery is recharging, in half an hour i should be able to have some pics |
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| 11:47:35 | muesli_- | yippie :D |
| 11:47:37 | linuxstb__ | I'm not saying anything should be done differently, I'm just mentioning the potential problem a user could have. |
| 11:47:43 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:47:54 | muesli_- | the world needs pix :D |
| 11:47:55 | LinusN | linuxstb__: why don't you kill your ghosts? |
| 11:48:18 | linuxstb__ | I'm not sure how to (I'm using xchat) |
| 11:48:28 | LinusN | no registered nick? |
| 11:48:39 | linuxstb__ | Yes, the first one is registered. |
| 11:48:49 | linuxstb__ | I normally just wait for them to timeout. |
| 11:48:52 | Zak1392 | so... does the rockbox.iriver file have to be in the root or in the .rockbox folder? |
| 11:48:57 | linuxstb__ | But if there's a better way, please tell me. |
| 11:49:16 | LinusN | /msg nickserv ghost <nickname> <password> |
| 11:49:22 | Maxime | both work in v6 Zak1392 |
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| 11:49:47 | linuxstb__ | LinusN: OK. So I should register all of them. |
| 11:49:51 | LinusN | no |
| 11:50:07 | Zak1392 | what v6? |
| 11:50:09 | LinusN | /msg ghost linuxstb <password> |
| 11:50:20 | LinusN | Zak1392: or v1 if you're a h300 user |
| 11:50:35 | Zak1392 | oh |
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| 11:51:01 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 11:51:18 | linuxstb | LinusN: Thanks for the IRC tutorial. |
| 11:51:26 | Kick | (#rockbox linuxstb_ :LinusN) by LinusN!n=linus@labb.contactor.se |
| 11:51:26 | _FireFly_ | LinusN: how about my question ?? |
| 11:51:31 | linuxstb | Ouch. |
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| 11:51:58 | Raskolnikov^ | ok i'll be back later |
| 11:52:05 | LinusN | _FireFly_: ah, sorry missed that |
| 11:52:15 | Raskolnikov^ | hopefully with some pics of my rockbox h320 :) |
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| 11:52:19 | LinusN | yes, i think so |
| 11:52:50 | _FireFly_ | LinusN: should i post the question again ?? |
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| 11:53:16 | LinusN | _FireFly_: i think you should include those settings |
| 11:53:28 | _FireFly_ | ah ok i will do it :) |
| 11:54:57 | Membrillo | LinusN: Just curious. How much was the H1xx RB based on the Archos version? |
| 11:55:07 | Membrillo | if you know that is |
| 11:56:24 | LinusN | Membrillo: a lot |
| 11:57:04 | LinusN | most of the code base is the same |
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| 12:09:28 | Acksaw | i see some people on MR saying they got the rockbox bootloader (h300) it is available to download? |
| 12:09:38 | muesli_- | see my reply |
| 12:09:44 | muesli_- | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 12:10:10 | Acksaw | yeh just saw it =] |
| 12:10:10 | ashridah | Acksaw: keep in mind that it's experimental and poorly tested on international players, and rockbox itself doesnt do a whole lot yet on H3x0 |
| 12:10:12 | Acksaw | have you loaded it? |
| 12:10:20 | Acksaw | i got a US h320 |
| 12:10:36 | muesli_- | i did not..own a h140 so far |
| 12:10:44 | muesli_- | but some did |
| 12:10:46 | Acksaw | i see |
| 12:10:51 | muesli_- | r???ß? |
| 12:10:53 | Acksaw | i dont know which to download or how to install it... |
| 12:10:53 | muesli_- | did it |
| 12:10:57 | Acksaw | what does it do so far? |
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| 12:11:07 | muesli_- | see the thread |
| 12:11:18 | Acksaw | which one? |
| 12:11:36 | muesli_- | the one youve posted |
| 12:11:47 | Acksaw | it doesnt say what it does so far |
| 12:12:10 | LinusN | so far it doesn't do much, except crash |
| 12:12:16 | muesli_- | *g* |
| 12:12:20 | ashridah | and not turn off |
| 12:12:31 | ashridah | and apparently it disables the RTC mode while in standby or whatever :) |
| 12:12:49 | LinusN | interesting |
| 12:12:55 | muesli_- | see http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=24010 also |
| 12:13:30 | Acksaw | RTC mode? |
| 12:13:48 | Acksaw | so there no real point in using it yet then? |
| 12:13:54 | LinusN | absolutely not |
| 12:13:54 | muesli_- | LinusN you said rbx will look on boot in .rockbox for *.iriver first |
| 12:14:01 | ashridah | Acksaw: not unless you're a developer |
| 12:14:05 | Acksaw | alrighty |
| 12:14:10 | LinusN | muesli_-: yes? |
| 12:14:15 | Acksaw | i can wait =] |
| 12:14:33 | muesli_- | but on http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip there's no *.iriver in .rockbox |
| 12:14:48 | LinusN | muesli_-: that's not the bootloader |
| 12:15:18 | LinusN | i never said that rockbox.iriver would be in .rockbox in the zip files |
| 12:15:34 | muesli_- | i understood it as this would be implemented in general |
| 12:15:34 | LinusN | it's still in the root for now |
| 12:15:39 | Acksaw | Linus, is there any more pics so far/ |
| 12:15:39 | LinusN | not yet |
| 12:15:45 | muesli_- | ok :) |
| 12:15:45 | ashridah | is it just me, or are the misticriver forums shockingly ugly to look at? |
| 12:15:53 | LinusN | not until most people have upgraded to the new bootloader |
| 12:15:57 | Acksaw | which layout you using? |
| 12:16:02 | LinusN | ashridah: the black theme? |
| 12:16:03 | muesli_- | ok |
| 12:16:16 | muesli_- | the black is really ugly if you ask me |
| 12:16:19 | Acksaw | I didmn't like the black theme at first... |
| 12:16:20 | LinusN | ashridah: use the test theme |
| 12:16:28 | Acksaw | its growing on me but i still don't like it! |
| 12:16:30 | muesli_- | makes me depressiv ;) |
| 12:16:50 | Zak1392 | i've gotten used to it |
| 12:16:58 | muesli_- | g2g... |
| 12:17:08 | Zak1392 | i used to think it was ugly |
| 12:17:20 | Acksaw | see ya muesli |
| 12:17:34 | ashridah | LinusN: i suspect i need an account first |
| 12:17:44 | LinusN | think so |
| 12:17:49 | Jungti1234 | oh -_- |
| 12:18:49 | | Quit qupada ("We apologise for the inconvenience") |
| 12:19:11 | Jungti1234 | There is that I take a picture to misticriver. |
| 12:19:31 | Jungti1234 | It's imitation. |
| 12:19:33 | Zak1392 | gotta go for now |
| 12:19:38 | Zak1392 | see ya |
| 12:19:51 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 12:20:00 | Jungti1234 | Who is LedFloyd? |
| 12:20:17 | | Quit Zak1392 () |
| 12:20:37 | LinusN | he's PinkZeppelin's little brother :-) |
| 12:20:44 | ashridah | rofl |
| 12:20:59 | Acksaw | I actually think its good that your doing rockbox on a US h300 |
| 12:21:12 | LinusN | why? |
| 12:21:17 | Acksaw | as the int. people get everything before the people with the US |
| 12:21:54 | ashridah | apparently the firmware seems to work on both, a couple of people have tried it, or something |
| 12:21:57 | ashridah | or at least, Jungti1234 has |
| 12:22:02 | LinusN | oh really? you got the wonderful drm, don't you? :) |
| 12:22:04 | ghode|afk | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883.0 - anyone seen this? |
| 12:22:07 | Acksaw | have you got any more pics of rockbox running on the h320? apart from the ones showing the program working? |
| 12:22:11 | | Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 12:22:15 | LinusN | no |
| 12:22:18 | Acksaw | i don't use the DRM =] |
| 12:23:26 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 12:23:37 | Acksaw | sup Jung? |
| 12:23:57 | Jungti1234 | what? |
| 12:24:22 | Acksaw | you said "?" |
| 12:24:27 | Acksaw | just wondering why |
| 12:24:48 | LinusN | ghode|afk: i replied |
| 12:24:48 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 12:25:19 | Jungti1234 | That I have what ? |
| 12:26:01 | | Join Raskolnikov [0] (n=rodja@host-84-222-99-100.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 12:26:09 | Raskolnikov | hi again |
| 12:26:24 | Raskolnikov | finally i have pictures of rockbox running on h320 eu |
| 12:26:30 | Raskolnikov | going to resize them |
| 12:26:35 | Raskolnikov | and upload somewhere |
| 12:26:42 | | Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) |
| 12:28:35 | | Join Lear [0] (n=Lear@h73n11c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 12:28:50 | | Join San||Studying [0] (n=Test@213-202-163-136.bas503.dsl.esat.net) |
| 12:31:02 | Raskolnikov | muesli_-: are you ready?? :) |
| 12:31:37 | Raskolnikov | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.th.jpg |
| 12:32:14 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 12:32:24 | Jungti1234 | Picture is small. |
| 12:32:55 | Coldtoast | it's not small |
| 12:33:00 | Coldtoast | it's miniscule |
| 12:33:05 | | Join tim66 [0] (n=tim@83.97.39.21) |
| 12:33:20 | dwihno | remove .th and you |
| 12:33:22 | markun | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.th.jpg |
| 12:33:26 | Coldtoast | heh. I'm the screen is almost as small as my desktop icons |
| 12:33:26 | dwihno | 'll see the full-scale img |
| 12:33:29 | markun | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.jpg |
| 12:33:36 | Raskolnikov | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.th.jpg |
| 12:33:36 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 12:33:38 | Jungti1234 | hi markun |
| 12:33:41 | Raskolnikov | this is bigger |
| 12:33:49 | markun | Hi Jungti1234! |
| 12:34:12 | Jungti1234 | I waited you. |
| 12:34:16 | Raskolnikov | no, that's not bigger:P |
| 12:34:33 | markun | So, waiting for the bootloader is over. I can make you a unicode version soon |
| 12:34:52 | Raskolnikov | ok |
| 12:34:57 | Raskolnikov | here's another one: http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rockbox0024zl.jpg |
| 12:34:57 | markun | Then you can finaly use your korean translation |
| 12:35:12 | Jungti1234 | Moving is strange in Korea model. |
| 12:35:40 | Jungti1234 | Moving -> Running..? |
| 12:36:00 | Raskolnikov | another one: http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rockbox0032lp.jpg |
| 12:36:03 | Jungti1234 | runing |
| 12:36:19 | | Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 12:36:44 | ashridah | Jungti1234: i didn't get to see that video before. what's strange about it? |
| 12:36:46 | | Quit San (Connection timed out) |
| 12:37:02 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 12:37:13 | Jungti1234 | Menu operates alone. |
| 12:37:23 | Jungti1234 | LCD is lighted alone. |
| 12:37:29 | ashridah | alone? |
| 12:37:35 | Jungti1234 | H300 |
| 12:37:41 | ashridah | not sure 'alone' is the right word |
| 12:38:03 | Jungti1234 | I didn't apply. |
| 12:38:17 | Jungti1234 | But, my H300 operates. |
| 12:39:11 | Jungti1234 | Don't know how must translate. |
| 12:40:27 | Raskolnikov | ok |
| 12:40:34 | Raskolnikov | all my pics here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=342012&posted=1#post342012 |
| 12:41:55 | | Join mashalla [0] (n=dj-dave@p5498C7FD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:42:28 | Jungti1234 | That appliance is strange at song playing operate. |
| 12:43:26 | Raskolnikov | when i try to play a song it all mess up |
| 12:43:35 | Raskolnikov | no music (obviously) |
| 12:43:44 | Raskolnikov | but it also seems to receive key presses |
| 12:43:46 | Jungti1234 | If see video, you are going to understand fast. |
| 12:44:00 | Raskolnikov | even if i don't touch anything at all |
| 12:44:14 | Jungti1234 | yes! |
| 12:45:02 | Raskolnikov | also i've tried to turn on id3 db |
| 12:45:04 | Jungti1234 | Even if I don't touch, device operates. |
| 12:45:11 | Raskolnikov | then when i press navigate |
| 12:45:13 | Raskolnikov | it crashes |
| 12:45:36 | Jungti1234 | Stop. |
| 12:45:46 | Jungti1234 | Appliance stops. |
| 12:47:51 | San||Studying | what can bootloader vq do? |
| 12:47:52 | | Nick San||Studying is now known as San (n=Test@213-202-163-136.bas503.dsl.esat.net) |
| 12:48:04 | Raskolnikov | all in all, this is a great day for my h320 :) |
| 12:49:42 | | Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c211-28-93-42.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 12:50:02 | | Join grimbly [0] (n=56822d26@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:50:17 | Acksaw | hmm |
| 12:50:34 | grimbly | HI ALL - just wondering where I can download RB for the H300 - done the bootloader - but can't find the actual RB files... |
| 12:50:54 | Jungti1234 | My H300 is not normalcy... |
| 12:50:55 | Acksaw | san come on MR ric |
| 12:50:57 | Acksaw | irc* |
| 12:51:07 | San | kk |
| 12:51:10 | Raskolnikov | just look at the path for the others builds... ;) |
| 12:51:18 | grimbly | OK |
| 12:51:19 | grimbly | ta |
| 12:51:34 | JdGordon | so whats the deal with rockbox and the h320? its sorta working? |
| 12:51:35 | San | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 12:51:45 | San | there ya go grimly |
| 12:52:02 | Raskolnikov | JdGordon: it succesfully boots |
| 12:52:12 | JdGordon | does it play music? |
| 12:52:14 | grimbly | Yeah - got that and done it. I need the link to the actual Rockbox files not the bootloader |
| 12:52:29 | Raskolnikov | JdGordon: no |
| 12:52:35 | JdGordon | haha ok |
| 12:53:09 | Jungti1234 | hey markun |
| 12:53:22 | San | what does the patching of the firmware do? |
| 12:53:38 | Jungti1234 | http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1747/dscn22094no.jpg |
| 12:54:07 | Raskolnikov | Jungti1234: yes but it's mute ;P |
| 12:54:14 | Jungti1234 | yes.. |
| 12:54:38 | ashridah | San: it adds a chunk of code to the original iriver firmware that allows a small part of rockbox to take over and load rockbox from disk |
| 12:54:41 | grimbly | Do I use the H120 Rockbox binary ? |
| 12:54:50 | Raskolnikov | can't wait for the day i'll heard my h320 rockboxed spell is first word :P |
| 12:54:55 | Raskolnikov | grimbly no |
| 12:55:06 | Raskolnikov | grimbly: i've sent you a private message |
| 12:55:07 | JdGordon | whats the boot time on the h320 with rockbox? |
| 12:55:14 | Raskolnikov | didn't you received that? |
| 12:55:20 | Raskolnikov | JdGordon: 5 seconds circa |
| 12:55:22 | grimbly | No sorry |
| 12:55:25 | San | <ashridah> San: it adds a chunk of code to the original iriver firmware that allows a small part of rockbox to take over and load rockbox from disk <−−- Thanks, and what do I do with the bootloader-h300.bin? |
| 12:55:38 | JdGordon | is it expected to go slower when it works properly? |
| 12:55:38 | Raskolnikov | grimbly: and now? |
| 12:55:38 | grimbly | I'm using the webclient... |
| 12:55:42 | ashridah | JdGordon: 4-5 seconds irrespective of number of files on the player (in the root may be a different story) |
| 12:55:44 | Raskolnikov | oh |
| 12:55:45 | Raskolnikov | i see |
| 12:55:47 | grimbly | You can email me if you like... |
| 12:55:51 | Raskolnikov | ok |
| 12:55:53 | JdGordon | ok, awesome |
| 12:55:53 | grimbly | grimbly@fsmail.net |
| 12:55:59 | Jungti1234 | I want to listen a song. |
| 12:56:01 | * | JdGordon is sick of waitng 30sec to listen to music |
| 12:56:09 | ashridah | San: you need to use a utility to patch it into iriver's firmware. if you have to ask, you probably aren't really interested in rockbox's current state |
| 12:56:31 | San | i know |
| 12:56:36 | San | I just wana see it though |
| 12:56:37 | | Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc145.b.pppool.de) |
| 12:56:47 | San | i have patched the firmwate |
| 12:57:03 | Raskolnikov | muesli |
| 12:57:12 | Raskolnikov | go to misticriver and see the pics :) |
| 12:57:13 | muesli_- | yepp |
| 12:57:19 | grimbly | Raskolnikov - yet to get the mail mate.. .Sorry to be a pain |
| 12:57:48 | Raskolnikov | grimbly: check it now |
| 12:57:58 | grimbly | Got it cheers! |
| 12:58:04 | ashridah | San: if you've patched the firmware, why did you ask what to do with bootloader-h300.bin ? |
| 12:58:21 | Raskolnikov | man the cube is spectacular :P |
| 12:58:22 | Jungti1234 | I'm going to put H100's firmware to my H300. |
| 12:58:40 | Raskolnikov | do you want to kill it? |
| 12:58:42 | ashridah | Jungti1234: what? why? |
| 12:58:51 | | Join speed123 [0] (n=speed123@p54BB92B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:58:52 | ashridah | are you trying to make it break? |
| 12:58:55 | grimbly | OK - HERE GOES!!! |
| 12:59:02 | San | i patched the firmware with the .exe file, and i downloaded a bootloader-h300.bin file aswell, i tought you needed that |
| 12:59:05 | Jungti1234 | hahahaha |
| 12:59:13 | ashridah | San: no, not if you use fwpatcher |
| 12:59:14 | grimbly | WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY! |
| 12:59:20 | Jungti1234 | yahahahaaha |
| 12:59:22 | Raskolnikov | i was so brave to try rockbox on my h320 eu because i wanted an excuse to upgrade it to a h340 :P |
| 12:59:29 | ashridah | San: the fwpatcher utility contains a copy of bootloader-h300.bin |
| 12:59:35 | San | oooohhh |
| 12:59:39 | muesli_- | Raskolnikov nice :D |
| 12:59:41 | San | so just flash my player now? |
| 12:59:50 | Raskolnikov | but damn.. it worked! |
| 12:59:52 | ashridah | San: the separate bootloader file is usable if you've got a compiled copy of the rockbox sourcetree, and thus, have a copy of mkboot |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:16 | Jungti1234 | I tried to korea model. |
| 13:00:17 | San | kk |
| 13:00:18 | San | :D |
| 13:00:33 | ashridah | San: as long as you've heeded all the prerequisite warnings, and you understand that rockbox will make your player LESS functional, (apparently the RTC low power mode breaks or something), sure |
| 13:00:39 | Jungti1234 | Moving is impossible. |
| 13:00:43 | grimbly | thanks all - shame it doens't play music yet... but it's awesome! |
| 13:00:50 | Raskolnikov | please little h320... say something... sing a little single note!!! :D |
| 13:00:55 | Jungti1234 | Device moves alone. |
| 13:01:28 | ashridah | Jungti1234: we warned you that rockbox is not completely functional on the H300 series yet. |
| 13:01:30 | Jungti1234 | I don't know that can wait when the problem is ameliorated. |
| 13:01:46 | ashridah | Jungti1234: if you can, reset the device, and hold 'record' when turning the device on |
| 13:01:47 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:01:49 | grimbly | Thanks all |
| 13:01:49 | Raskolnikov | does someone know if aac created with itunes are better or equal to ogg? |
| 13:01:51 | ashridah | it should go back to theo riginal firmware |
| 13:01:52 | Jungti1234 | yes, I saw. |
| 13:01:55 | ashridah | (should) |
| 13:02:02 | Raskolnikov | i actually encode all my cd with ogg at 160 |
| 13:02:02 | | Quit grimbly ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 13:02:15 | San | <ashridah> <−− Just flash the firmware now, and it should all be fine, wont damage the player if it works, right? |
| 13:02:23 | Jungti1234 | I know. |
| 13:02:32 | Raskolnikov | but i would like to use a format which i could exchange with my friends using ipoo |
| 13:02:34 | ashridah | San: i make absolutely no garuntees, and take no responsibility |
| 13:02:45 | San | i know |
| 13:03:04 | * | San is going to flash |
| 13:03:14 | ashridah | San: and so far as i know, you should even still be able to reflash it with the original firmware, provided you can boot bakc into iriver's original firmware by holding record. |
| 13:03:29 | | Join Bger_cgiirc [0] (n=d5f0dcba@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:03:32 | San | ok |
| 13:03:36 | Bger_cgiirc | guys, hi :) |
| 13:03:36 | San | thanks |
| 13:03:41 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 13:03:46 | Raskolnikov | hi bger |
| 13:03:53 | JdGordon | is there any point flashing the h320 now? like apart form boot, can it do anything? |
| 13:04:00 | JdGordon | or is it just the wank factor? |
| 13:04:01 | Bger_cgiirc | just patched international h340 with the bootloader |
| 13:04:08 | hshah | the latter JdGordon |
| 13:04:13 | Raskolnikov | ehehhe |
| 13:04:14 | San | lol |
| 13:04:14 | Raskolnikov | yeah |
| 13:04:18 | ashridah | JdGordon: from what people said, the cube plugin looks decent... :) |
| 13:04:29 | San | whats the cube plugin? |
| 13:04:34 | Bger_cgiirc | where can i find the rockbox binari itself ? |
| 13:04:43 | Bger_cgiirc | s/binari/binary |
| 13:04:44 | ashridah | San: itdisplays a rotating 3d cube |
| 13:04:44 | Raskolnikov | this san: http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6561/rockbox0076fy.jpg |
| 13:04:51 | San | ah |
| 13:04:57 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 13:04:58 | | Quit curio (Remote closed the connection) |
| 13:05:04 | Jungti1234 | I tried. |
| 13:05:05 | ashridah | Bger_cgiirc: search the irc logs, the daily build is actually on rockbox.org, it's just not linked on one of the daily build pages |
| 13:05:21 | Bger_cgiirc | 10x, ashridah |
| 13:05:22 | JdGordon | minesweeper, pong and tetris :D |
| 13:05:26 | * | JdGordon goes to flash |
| 13:05:30 | Raskolnikov | snake works to |
| 13:05:32 | Raskolnikov | too |
| 13:05:41 | Raskolnikov | so you can use your h300 to play :P |
| 13:06:03 | Bger_cgiirc | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 13:06:07 | * | ashridah notes that this is all that worked when he first put rockbox on his iriver H140 |
| 13:06:13 | ashridah | Bger_cgiirc: that's the one |
| 13:06:15 | Acksaw | where can i find all these pics? |
| 13:06:27 | | Join Wett [0] (n=wett@l04m-212-194-56-90.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 13:06:27 | ashridah | Acksaw: i think Raskolnikov is taking them himself |
| 13:06:35 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 13:06:39 | Raskolnikov | Acksaw: here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=342012&posted=1#post342012 |
| 13:06:44 | Raskolnikov | 7 pics |
| 13:06:52 | ashridah | Acksaw: you can download the daily log from www.rockbox.org/irc/ and search for .jpg |
| 13:06:56 | ashridah | that'll find any posted today |
| 13:07:00 | ashridah | or that |
| 13:07:19 | Acksaw | art brut i see |
| 13:07:22 | Acksaw | nice=] |
| 13:07:35 | Raskolnikov | what will happen now if i plug it in the ac for recharging? |
| 13:07:51 | ashridah | Raskolnikov: the player will give you a gold piece |
| 13:07:58 | Acksaw | rreally? |
| 13:08:00 | Raskolnikov | i guess i have to start iriver firmware before doing that |
| 13:08:01 | * | ashridah has no idea :) |
| 13:08:02 | Raskolnikov | hahahha |
| 13:08:10 | Raskolnikov | lets try |
| 13:08:21 | San | what happens when it says firmware loades |
| 13:08:26 | San | results: -1 |
| 13:08:26 | San | ? |
| 13:08:30 | San | and then turns off? |
| 13:08:37 | Bger_cgiirc | yes |
| 13:08:51 | San | what is that |
| 13:08:53 | ashridah | San:you need to also copy the contents of a rockbox.zip (such as the daily build Bger_cgiirc mentioned just before) into the root of the player |
| 13:09:03 | San | could ave told me that |
| 13:09:04 | San | :P |
| 13:09:12 | ashridah | or it won't find a rockbox firmware to actually load (odd, i thought it was supposed to fail over to the iriver firmware by default) |
| 13:09:19 | ashridah | San: i thought i did. |
| 13:09:23 | San | no |
| 13:09:24 | San | lol |
| 13:09:38 | ashridah | "ashridah San: it adds a chunk of code to the original iriver firmware that allows a small part of rockbox to take over and load rockbox from disk" |
| 13:09:44 | ashridah | i believe i mentioned the 'from disk' bit |
| 13:09:50 | ashridah | not my fault you didn't ask for clarification ;) |
| 13:09:58 | San | oh |
| 13:10:00 | San | my ba |
| 13:10:01 | ashridah | anyway, hold record, it should boot the original firmware |
| 13:10:02 | San | *bad |
| 13:10:06 | muesli_- | Raskolnikov query |
| 13:10:06 | Raskolnikov | nice |
| 13:10:07 | San | i am shaking |
| 13:10:11 | San | :P |
| 13:10:14 | Raskolnikov | if you plug the ac adapter |
| 13:10:16 | Acksaw | lol san |
| 13:10:18 | San | tought it was gone |
| 13:10:18 | * | Bger_cgiirc dances the "first rockbox boot" dance |
| 13:10:19 | ashridah | you can copy rockbox onto it then. (or possibly the usb-from-flash mode of rockbox will work, not sure) |
| 13:10:23 | Raskolnikov | it automagically starts default iriver firmware |
| 13:10:23 | Bger_cgiirc | many 10x to all of you, guys |
| 13:10:33 | San | where can I get the rockbox.zip? |
| 13:10:35 | ashridah | Raskolnikov: interesting. player must use a different entry point |
| 13:10:42 | ashridah | San: look back in the logs. |
| 13:10:44 | Raskolnikov | yes |
| 13:10:46 | Bger_cgiirc | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 13:10:49 | Bger_cgiirc | here |
| 13:10:56 | San | ty |
| 13:10:57 | muesli_- | Raskolnikov query |
| 13:11:11 | Raskolnikov | i've sent you a message muesli_- |
| 13:11:16 | | Join Febs [0] (n=cfac7a51@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:11:16 | Raskolnikov | haven't you received that? |
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| 13:11:39 | Raskolnikov | oh |
| 13:11:41 | Raskolnikov | i see |
| 13:11:44 | Raskolnikov | let's register.. |
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| 13:11:52 | | Nick solexx_ is now known as solexx (n=jrschulz@c187199.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 13:11:56 | Jungti1234 | hmm? |
| 13:11:58 | muesli_- | ./query muesli_- will do it too ;) |
| 13:12:18 | Raskolnikov | ok |
| 13:12:23 | muesli_- | without . of course |
| 13:12:24 | Raskolnikov | lets try |
| 13:12:27 | Acksaw | hey febs |
| 13:12:28 | Jungti1234 | I don't become though I registered. |
| 13:12:42 | Raskolnikov | sure |
| 13:12:43 | Bger_cgiirc | wow, reboot is *really* fast |
| 13:12:51 | Raskolnikov | yes |
| 13:12:53 | Raskolnikov | really |
| 13:12:58 | Raskolnikov | wonderful |
| 13:13:09 | Raskolnikov | received something muesly? |
| 13:13:10 | Acksaw | so, is there a high risk of using rbx? |
| 13:13:12 | Bger_cgiirc | hm, peakmeter works :) |
| 13:13:23 | muesli_- | nope... Raskolnikov |
| 13:13:24 | ashridah | Acksaw: given that it currently doesn't work perfectly, i'd say so |
| 13:13:36 | Raskolnikov | have icq or msn? |
| 13:13:38 | Bger_cgiirc | Acksaw: noone can be sure enough to say "no" |
| 13:13:38 | JdGordon | damn u ppl.... im flashing my beast |
| 13:13:42 | Acksaw | i see |
| 13:13:51 | muesli_- | 138642073 |
| 13:13:57 | Raskolnikov | ok |
| 13:14:05 | Acksaw | 1 brick out of about 15 |
| 13:14:14 | Acksaw | the chance is still there... |
| 13:14:22 | Superman | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883.0 |
| 13:14:22 | ashridah | Acksaw: it doesn't look fatal, and if the unit's not dead enough to load the original firmware, it *should* be able to reflash with a clean unpatched firmware and be fine |
| 13:14:34 | muesli_- | how did you do that ashridah ? |
| 13:14:35 | San | it isn't working for me |
| 13:14:38 | ashridah | Acksaw: we've actually had a brick? |
| 13:14:44 | Acksaw | yes ash |
| 13:14:48 | ashridah | muesli_-: do what? |
| 13:14:49 | Acksaw | in the rbx forum |
| 13:14:54 | JdGordon | wheres the prehacked h320 firmware? |
| 13:14:54 | ashridah | whoa |
| 13:14:56 | muesli_- | brick it |
| 13:14:59 | ashridah | cool |
| 13:15:05 | ashridah | JdGordon: 'prehacked'? |
| 13:15:13 | Jungti1234 | What to find password should I do? |
| 13:15:29 | * | Bger_cgiirc is so pleased ... |
| 13:15:30 | JdGordon | so rb loads |
| 13:15:32 | San | i copied the .rockbox folder into the root of My H300 and it isn't working |
| 13:16:02 | Acksaw | try that trick.. |
| 13:16:09 | Acksaw | 1) Reset it |
| 13:16:09 | Acksaw | 2) Hold Rec and ON for a second or two |
| 13:16:24 | ashridah | JdGordon: there won't be any official prepatched iriver firmwares |
| 13:16:44 | ashridah | rockbox cannot and will not risk distributing them, since that'd be fuel for iriver to sue them |
| 13:16:53 | JdGordon | ok, where is the link to the install it yourself page.. i cant find it again :'( |
| 13:16:57 | Raskolnikov | ok |
| 13:17:02 | Raskolnikov | going to lunch |
| 13:17:03 | Raskolnikov | talk later |
| 13:17:05 | Raskolnikov | bye |
| 13:17:09 | Bger_cgiirc | WOW, cube is amazing :) |
| 13:17:23 | Acksaw | im gonna start a poll on MR |
| 13:17:31 | Coldtoast | the JPG viewer on the h100 is more amazing |
| 13:17:33 | San | iriver firmware works, rockbox doesn't |
| 13:17:33 | | Quit Raskolnikov (Connection reset by peer) |
| 13:17:42 | Acksaw | about successful and unsuccesful flashing |
| 13:17:47 | ashridah | San: you unzipped the .zip file into the root of the player? |
| 13:18:00 | San | yes |
| 13:18:09 | San | and there is a .rockbox folder |
| 13:18:16 | ashridah | interesting. does it still give out the same error? |
| 13:18:25 | San | yes |
| 13:18:31 | San | results: -1 |
| 13:18:36 | San | and then just turns off |
| 13:18:38 | ashridah | and is there a rockbox.iriver file in the root or in .rockbox/ ? |
| 13:19:06 | San | nope |
| 13:19:10 | San | is there ment to be? |
| 13:19:16 | ashridah | then you didn't unzip the rockbox.zip file properly ;) |
| 13:19:20 | San | it did |
| 13:19:37 | Slasheri | -1 means that rockbox.iriver was not found |
| 13:19:47 | San | aaaah, see it now |
| 13:20:00 | San | so, do I copy the rockbox folder, or the .rockbox folder? |
| 13:20:29 | ashridah | the player needs to contain rockbox.iriver either in the root of the device, OR in .rockbox |
| 13:20:39 | San | ok |
| 13:20:50 | Acksaw | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 |
| 13:21:02 | ashridah | that file shoudl be in the rockbox.zip Bger_cgiirc linked you to |
| 13:21:14 | San | it was |
| 13:21:25 | San | but i just extracted the .rockbox folder by accident |
| 13:21:27 | San | :\ |
| 13:21:32 | ashridah | heh :) |
| 13:21:40 | San | works :D |
| 13:21:42 | San | OMG |
| 13:22:02 | San | haha, bug |
| 13:22:08 | ashridah | <San> the magic smoke is escaping! is there a patch? |
| 13:22:14 | San | lol |
| 13:22:40 | Bger_cgiirc | btw, its obvious that this is one of the first color players, which rockbox runs on |
| 13:22:41 | Acksaw | so, is it working san? |
| 13:22:45 | San | yes |
| 13:22:47 | Acksaw | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 |
| 13:23:03 | Acksaw | everyone go there and put if you successfully flashed! |
| 13:23:09 | San | when scrolling the files, if you hold the down button to long, it keeps going |
| 13:23:24 | * | ashridah suspects there needs to be a fair bit of clearing up of misconceptions about the differences between rockbox and rockbox's bootloader on misticriver ;) |
| 13:23:45 | ashridah | San: yeah, that's probably related to bugs the H1x0 had a while back. they'll get sorted in time. |
| 13:23:56 | thegeek | I wish all the noobs would just sail their own sea sometimes |
| 13:24:02 | Coldtoast | I really dislike the new look of misticriver |
| 13:24:03 | Acksaw | im probably gonna flash in the next few days |
| 13:24:22 | thegeek | if you can't even read the information in the wiki, I won't have much pity with you |
| 13:24:22 | ashridah | Acksaw: i'd give it a few weeks so the devs can have a good poke at things. |
| 13:24:24 | Coldtoast | looks like something ppl though twas "cool" about 5 yearsa go |
| 13:24:29 | Acksaw | yeh |
| 13:24:31 | Acksaw | good idea |
| 13:24:33 | ashridah | now that the bootloader exists, expect things to speed up a fair bit |
| 13:24:36 | JdGordon | any1 got the h300.hex file ? its taking ages to dl from the iriver site |
| 13:24:43 | ashridah | mostly it'll be work with drivers, i suspect. |
| 13:24:45 | San | [12:23] <thegeek> I wish all the noobs would just sail their own sea sometimes <−− Thanks :D |
| 13:24:57 | Acksaw | JD im pretty sure i have one |
| 13:25:04 | thegeek | dont get me wrong |
| 13:25:04 | ashridah | thegeek: heh, subtle. :) |
| 13:25:08 | Acksaw | with, different boot and load screens |
| 13:25:13 | Acksaw | boot and shutdown* |
| 13:25:14 | thegeek | I have nothing against "new" people |
| 13:25:27 | San | i am'nt new, just new to rockboc |
| 13:25:29 | thegeek | it's just the "noob" attitude I really dont like |
| 13:25:30 | San | *rockbox |
| 13:25:36 | San | have a look at my profile on MR |
| 13:25:41 | JdGordon | ah dw.. almost finished |
| 13:25:42 | ashridah | thegeek: tossing people headfirst into the wiki is a quick way to get them lost in trivia on the devs really want to know about |
| 13:25:50 | thegeek | everyone was new once, and that's ok as long as you act and behave intelligently |
| 13:26:05 | Acksaw | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 everyone please vote! |
| 13:26:05 | San | where is the cube plugin? |
| 13:26:08 | thegeek | true ashridah |
| 13:26:10 | * | Bger_cgiirc tryes the dircache |
| 13:26:21 | thegeek | but if they can't understand the information in the wiki |
| 13:26:28 | thegeek | rockbox is not really for them |
| 13:26:31 | JdGordon | the wiki is terrible |
| 13:26:36 | thegeek | atleast not right now |
| 13:26:49 | Coldtoast | hey. what are the pixel dimensions of the LCD on the remote? |
| 13:26:52 | ashridah | San: press whatever button brings up the menu ('a-b' on the H1x0, not sure on the H3x0) and go to 'browse plugins' |
| 13:26:54 | ashridah | it'll be in there |
| 13:27:01 | Bger_cgiirc | the same, A-B |
| 13:27:11 | San | ah, ty |
| 13:27:17 | Bger_cgiirc | btw, does the rockbox shut down now on low battery ? |
| 13:27:22 | Acksaw | no menu is on a-b |
| 13:27:28 | Acksaw | menu is on record |
| 13:27:28 | Coldtoast | there's no remote WPS added to the wiki yet |
| 13:28:26 | | Quit ashridah ("sleep") |
| 13:28:30 | Jungti1234 | Voted. |
| 13:28:49 | Jungti1234 | A-B |
| 13:29:18 | JdGordon | ok so is this right.. i dl the iriver firmware and bootloader.bin and run fwpatchernu.exe on the .hex and all is done? |
| 13:29:21 | * | Bger_cgiirc goes home to charge his player |
| 13:29:46 | Bger_cgiirc | nice day all and thanx again for this beast :) |
| 13:29:48 | * | Acksaw np: Test-Icicles - Your Biggest Mistake [04:07m/192Kbps/44KHz] |
| 13:29:56 | | Quit Bger_cgiirc ("CGI:IRC") |
| 13:30:03 | Coldtoast | wrong JdGordon |
| 13:30:04 | San | text works |
| 13:30:16 | Acksaw | i wanna do it! |
| 13:30:16 | Coldtoast | no need for the bootloader if you're using fwpatcher |
| 13:30:22 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:30:40 | Coldtoast | download the fw and fwpatcher, run fwpatcher, select the BIOS and it'll patch it. Then flash |
| 13:30:41 | JdGordon | so just run fwpatcher and pray? |
| 13:30:43 | San | ahh the different text viewing modes are cool |
| 13:31:02 | Coldtoast | well, run fwpatcher and you'll have to browse for the fw |
| 13:31:02 | Acksaw | if i do go wrong is there a chance to reflash to original iriver FW? |
| 13:31:11 | JdGordon | here goes nothing.... |
| 13:31:23 | Acksaw | *fingers crosssed for JD* |
| 13:31:29 | JdGordon | loading.... |
| 13:31:57 | JdGordon | do not touch while firware upgrading... |
| 13:31:59 | Acksaw | everyone please go here... http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 |
| 13:32:21 | Coldtoast | that's going to get a bit annoying pretty quickly I think Acksaw |
| 13:32:28 | Acksaw | thats my last time |
| 13:32:41 | Jungti1234 | hey acksaw |
| 13:32:44 | Acksaw | yeh? |
| 13:33:05 | stu3 | Is http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip the correct rockbox install to use for the H300 or should i use the normal rockbox? |
| 13:33:07 | Jungti1234 | My H300 malfunctions. |
| 13:33:14 | JdGordon | wtf?? i got the iriver firware |
| 13:33:18 | speed123 | i hope the poll doesnt mean 80% of you bricked your players .. |
| 13:33:30 | Acksaw | whoops |
| 13:33:33 | Coldtoast | use that one stu3 |
| 13:33:41 | Acksaw | i forgot tthe option for bricked it |
| 13:33:44 | stu3 | Thanks Coldtoast. |
| 13:33:46 | Coldtoast | that's the absolute most recent one |
| 13:33:46 | * | JdGordon copied the .zip to the playa |
| 13:33:54 | Febs | Acksaw, your poll options are ambiguous. |
| 13:33:54 | JdGordon | what else did i need to do? |
| 13:34:13 | stu3 | Just about to try the 1.28K patched firmware on a H340. |
| 13:34:15 | Febs | Does "Yes, with a few problems" mean problems installing the bootloader or problems running Rockbox? |
| 13:34:17 | Coldtoast | JdGordon: you need to copy Rockbox to the player now |
| 13:34:23 | Coldtoast | use the link stu3 just posted |
| 13:34:25 | Acksaw | both febs |
| 13:34:27 | Acksaw | febs |
| 13:34:30 | Acksaw | can you edit the poll for me? |
| 13:34:37 | Coldtoast | unzip that file to the root of the player |
| 13:34:48 | San | how do i get up plugins? |
| 13:34:51 | Febs | That's not useful, because everyone will have problems running Rockbox, considering that among other things, sound is not yet implemented. |
| 13:34:53 | Coldtoast | the reason you're getting the iriver fw is you don't have Rockbox on your player yet |
| 13:34:56 | San | that doesn't see to work? |
| 13:34:59 | Acksaw | i forgot to add "No, I bricked my player" |
| 13:35:02 | JdGordon | Coldtoast: the rockbox,zip? |
| 13:35:10 | Coldtoast | yep. unzip it to the root |
| 13:35:16 | JdGordon | i did |
| 13:35:35 | San | how do i get into the menu? A-B? |
| 13:35:45 | stu3 | Wish me luck lads :-). |
| 13:35:52 | San | yup |
| 13:35:59 | San | i felt the same :D |
| 13:36:07 | JdGordon | holy crasp |
| 13:36:09 | JdGordon | it works |
| 13:36:13 | San | i know |
| 13:36:15 | San | lol |
| 13:36:20 | JdGordon | needed to restart it again |
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| 13:36:35 | JdGordon | the screen is tiny |
| 13:37:00 | San | how do I get to the screen where a song is playing? |
| 13:37:17 | JdGordon | seems to be laagy |
| 13:37:24 | Acksaw | Jd |
| 13:37:31 | Acksaw | i hear you gotta take it slow to avoid crashign |
| 13:37:37 | JdGordon | ah |
| 13:37:45 | JdGordon | that would be why it just crashed |
| 13:37:47 | JdGordon | resetgin |
| 13:37:48 | Coldtoast | JdGordon: go to the prefs and "Browse for .wps" |
| 13:37:52 | Febs | Acksaw, take a look at the revisions to the poll. |
| 13:38:07 | Coldtoast | Rockbox is skinnable |
| 13:38:08 | stu3 | Sweeeeet, it works :-D. |
| 13:38:08 | Acksaw | thats perfect! |
| 13:38:21 | stu3 | Thats an international player as well ;-). |
| 13:38:30 | Acksaw | thanks Febs |
| 13:38:34 | JdGordon | hahaha, upsidedown lcd mode |
| 13:39:17 | Jungti1234 | hey! |
| 13:39:52 | Jungti1234 | Who edited the vote? |
| 13:39:57 | Febs | I did. |
| 13:40:12 | San | hey febs |
| 13:40:20 | Febs | Yes? |
| 13:40:27 | Jungti1234 | I don't select. |
| 13:40:43 | Jungti1234 | I did not select that. |
| 13:40:49 | Febs | What should your vote be? |
| 13:41:01 | San | [12:40] <Febs> Yes? <−−- Just saying Hey :P |
| 13:41:03 | JdGordon | cude does look cool :D |
| 13:41:07 | * | JdGordon goes to vote yes |
| 13:41:10 | Febs | San: Ah. |
| 13:41:18 | San | I cant find the cube |
| 13:41:29 | JdGordon | under browse plugins |
| 13:41:36 | San | hold AB? |
| 13:42:08 | | Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:42:13 | | Quit muesli_- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:42:44 | JdGordon | haha, most of these plugins are suelss |
| 13:42:52 | Jungti1234 | 'Yes, I had a few problems, but got the bootloader installed.' <- This vote must. |
| 13:42:56 | Coldtoast | are they? |
| 13:43:04 | JdGordon | snow and starfield |
| 13:43:09 | JdGordon | and other screensavers |
| 13:43:15 | Coldtoast | you call them "useless", I call them "proof of concept" |
| 13:43:22 | San | holding a-b brings me to a screen where i have to press left, right, and down to change modes |
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| 13:43:30 | Acksaw | nicely said taoast ;) |
| 13:43:31 | JdGordon | right :D |
| 13:43:39 | Jungti1234 | The vote is seemed to mistake. :( |
| 13:43:50 | Acksaw | Jung, tell febs |
| 13:43:54 | Philip | where can i download the rockbox files for H300??? |
| 13:43:56 | JdGordon | is there any plugins that record most listend to tracks, and logs which tracks were played? |
| 13:44:09 | stu3 | Well, all i can say is the bootloader works well :-). |
| 13:44:23 | Philip | iv'e got the bootloader |
| 13:44:24 | Febs | I changed the count to reflect Jungti's vote. |
| 13:44:29 | Coldtoast | enable "Gather Runtime Info" |
| 13:44:38 | JdGordon | stay away from the batterytest plugin |
| 13:44:42 | JdGordon | i tinhk it crashes the h320 |
| 13:44:50 | JdGordon | no... it just takes ages |
| 13:44:52 | JdGordon | ignore that |
| 13:45:01 | Jungti1234 | thanks for Febs |
| 13:45:21 | Acksaw | would anyone want to make a walkthrough for MR? |
| 13:45:33 | Coldtoast | JdGordon: you should have a good old play first and then post thoughts I reckon. rather than mention everything as you check it out :) |
| 13:45:44 | Febs | Acksaw, it already exists on the wikimanual. |
| 13:45:48 | * | JdGordon is too excited |
| 13:45:52 | Coldtoast | heh |
| 13:45:53 | JdGordon | its like a new toy again :D |
| 13:46:16 | Philip | where can i download rockbox.iriver and the .rockbox directory |
| 13:46:21 | | Quit bbad (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:46:30 | Febs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#iriver_jukeboxes |
| 13:46:38 | stu3 | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 13:47:06 | Febs | I'll need to make a few changes to reflect the H300 (including putting a big warning) but the process is the same. |
| 13:47:13 | LinusN | Jungti1234: "My H300 malfunctions"??? |
| 13:47:17 | Coldtoast | time to make an image .rwps I think |
| 13:47:20 | Philip | is that for H300 as well ?? |
| 13:47:28 | stu3 | Anyone sussed out if playback works with any codec yet? |
| 13:47:45 | Coldtoast | playback works with .ogg, .flac, .mp3, .wav |
| 13:47:49 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 13:47:50 | Jungti1234 | reboot |
| 13:47:52 | Coldtoast | to name 4 |
| 13:48:05 | stu3 | On the H300? |
| 13:48:05 | JdGordon | Coldtoast: on 320? |
| 13:48:20 | Coldtoast | oh. dunno there |
| 13:48:20 | Jungti1234 | My H300 does strange moving. |
| 13:48:33 | thegeek | LinusN : he's having problems with rockbox itself |
| 13:48:36 | dwihno | I just acquired an Amiga 500 on a fleamarket! |
| 13:48:39 | stu3 | lol, mp3 hasn't worked for me so far. |
| 13:48:40 | thegeek | it seems he can boot into rockbox just fine |
| 13:48:40 | Jungti1234 | Although translation is strange.. |
| 13:48:42 | thegeek | it's just buggy |
| 13:48:47 | thegeek | so nothing unexpected |
| 13:48:55 | Coldtoast | what are you going to do with it dwihno? |
| 13:49:38 | dwihno | Coldtoast: I haven |
| 13:49:41 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: Translation is strange, but my H300 is not normalcy. |
| 13:49:43 | dwihno | 't tested if it works even :) |
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| 13:49:49 | Coldtoast | any expansions? |
| 13:49:51 | JdGordon | whats car adaptor mode? |
| 13:49:51 | LinusN | Jungti1234: what is wrong? |
| 13:49:54 | Coldtoast | or is it vanilla? |
| 13:49:54 | San | cube is cool |
| 13:49:55 | San | :P |
| 13:50:09 | Jungti1234 | My mistake is not. |
| 13:50:16 | dwihno | Coldtoast: So if it does, I'll probably try to get a new mouse (or PS/2 converter, if there are such) and play old games and perhaps try some m68k assembly |
| 13:50:20 | JdGordon | LinusN: your a legend dude :D |
| 13:50:35 | thegeek | LinusN : he even posted a movie |
| 13:50:38 | dwihno | Coldtoast: Seems like some kind of 512k memory module is installed |
| 13:50:47 | thegeek | because it was hard for him to explain what was wrong |
| 13:50:49 | Coldtoast | cool. you should have at least that |
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| 13:50:53 | JdGordon | ok silly q.. how do u turn it off now? |
| 13:50:57 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: no, rockbox's mistake is not. |
| 13:51:05 | LinusN | Jungti1234: i don't care if it is your mistake or not, i want to know what is wrong with your h300 |
| 13:51:15 | San | haha, snake! |
| 13:51:16 | LinusN | JdGordon: hold off |
| 13:51:24 | Coldtoast | me was 100% Amiga, and had been for since the late 80s, up intul about 1997 |
| 13:51:29 | thegeek | http://rapidshare.de/files/7890601/DSCN2203.MOV.html |
| 13:51:30 | Coldtoast | me=I |
| 13:51:37 | thegeek | I think that is the link he posted earlier |
| 13:51:54 | JdGordon | :p works well on my h320... cept for pressing buttons too quickly |
| 13:51:57 | Coldtoast | from about 1987-1997, I was all Amiga based |
| 13:51:59 | Jungti1234 | I took much videoes. |
| 13:52:14 | whatboutbob | jdgordon: car adaptor mode is for the archos players. ignore it. |
| 13:52:16 | dwihno | Coldtoast: What can you use a 500 for? :) Except gaming, that is... |
| 13:52:20 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:52:24 | Acksaw | damn |
| 13:52:30 | Acksaw | i cant download from rapidshare |
| 13:52:54 | Coldtoast | you can do LOADS of great things with them |
| 13:52:57 | San | i am uploading a video of the cube to putfile ATM |
| 13:53:04 | Coldtoast | but you'll need to spend money on expansions |
| 13:53:09 | thegeek | http://rapidshare.de/files/7889196/DSCN2196.MOV.html |
| 13:53:13 | thegeek | http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html |
| 13:53:16 | Acksaw | You have downloaded 38493 KB in one hour. Want to download more? |
| 13:53:16 | JdGordon | silly q... can the default firware be changed to load iriver instead of rb? |
| 13:53:17 | thegeek | there |
| 13:53:20 | Acksaw | i havent downloaded anything. |
| 13:53:22 | thegeek | those are the links he pasted |
| 13:53:22 | pinkutank | what are those the geek |
| 13:53:26 | Coldtoast | you1 1MB Amiga can do a lot, but accelerators and HDD expansions will tranfsorm it |
| 13:53:27 | Coldtoast | anyway |
| 13:53:28 | Jungti1234 | http://rapidshare.de/files/7889196/DSCN2196.MOV.html |
| 13:53:30 | thegeek | Jungti1234's movies |
| 13:53:34 | Acksaw | "You have downloaded 38493 KB in one hour. Want to download more?" even though i have downloaded nothing |
| 13:53:37 | Jungti1234 | http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html |
| 13:53:40 | pinkutank | who and what is he |
| 13:53:43 | dwihno | Coldtoast: Is it hard to attach some hard disk? |
| 13:53:46 | Acksaw | Jung, can you host that elsewhere? |
| 13:53:59 | | Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-128.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 13:54:01 | Coldtoast | nope. you plug em into the edge connector on the left hand side |
| 13:54:07 | Jungti1234 | what? |
| 13:54:07 | San | OMG, pong |
| 13:54:12 | Jungti1234 | i don't understand |
| 13:54:17 | LinusN | i don't get it, DSCN2203.mov shows a working rockbox |
| 13:54:17 | dwihno | Coldtoast: There's a regular IDE connector there? |
| 13:54:21 | Acksaw | Jung, i cannot download from rapidhsare |
| 13:54:21 | Coldtoast | it's an external unit with HDD and accelerator |
| 13:54:26 | pinkutank | is he a toaster? a dev? how does he smell, what did he do? |
| 13:54:28 | thegeek | LinusN : as I was trying to say |
| 13:54:34 | LinusN | again: what is wrong with it? |
| 13:54:34 | Jungti1234 | T.T |
| 13:54:35 | thegeek | I think he's just trying to say that it's buggy |
| 13:54:54 | Jungti1234 | Translation is hard. |
| 13:54:56 | thegeek | he's like from japan or something |
| 13:54:56 | thegeek | ;) |
| 13:55:00 | San | there is a but in pong, the oppont doesn't move, but he still beats me |
| 13:55:01 | ashridah | thegeek: korea |
| 13:55:02 | LinusN | i give up |
| 13:55:03 | * | whatboutbob starts a recording battery test on his H120 with 2200mAh battery. |
| 13:55:04 | thegeek | ah |
| 13:55:05 | thegeek | sorry;) |
| 13:55:06 | dwihno | Coldtoast: I remember my brother having a IDE cable running from the amiga to an external plastic casing... |
| 13:55:08 | Coldtoast | prolly just best to do some googling dwihno |
| 13:55:11 | Jungti1234 | It is hard that speak all by translation. |
| 13:55:15 | dwihno | Coldtoast: probably :) |
| 13:55:22 | Coldtoast | he probably had an A1200? |
| 13:55:23 | dwihno | Coldtoast: How about using PS2-mice on the amiga? |
| 13:55:29 | Coldtoast | I think teh A500 might be SCSI |
| 13:55:36 | pinkutank | so is he an alien? |
| 13:55:36 | dwihno | Coldtoast: Naaeeeeh, I think it was a A500... |
| 13:55:42 | Coldtoast | ok |
| 13:55:46 | Acksaw | im gonna do it guys |
| 13:55:53 | pinkutank | do what |
| 13:55:54 | | Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-104-184.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 13:55:59 | Acksaw | flash rbx |
| 13:56:03 | Coldtoast | anyway. google the Amiga :) |
| 13:56:08 | pinkutank | amy i ask for what reason |
| 13:56:14 | San | anyway of making the screen stay on for longer? |
| 13:56:16 | dwihno | Coldtoast: jes. will do :) |
| 13:56:39 | LinusN | ok, the "first dead h340" is alive |
| 13:56:44 | Acksaw | wow |
| 13:56:46 | Acksaw | nice work |
| 13:56:52 | San | what did you do? |
| 13:56:53 | Acksaw | im gonna have to flash it now |
| 13:57:07 | San | http://media.putfile.com/Cube−−-Rockbox |
| 13:57:09 | pinkutank | linusn, what do you mean |
| 13:57:12 | San | sory for the bad quality |
| 13:57:15 | Febs | Installation instructions can be found here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#iriver_jukeboxes |
| 13:57:16 | pinkutank | by dead |
| 13:57:22 | pinkutank | you mean iriver fw |
| 13:57:23 | pinkutank | ? |
| 13:57:31 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: I'm using Korea model. Even if I do not touch it, LCD is lighted, and selects menu. |
| 13:57:40 | Febs | Along with a warning that Rockbox for H300 is at this time mean only for developers. |
| 13:58:02 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: Can know if see video. |
| 13:58:04 | Febs | mean=meant |
| 13:58:26 | pinkutank | monkeys |
| 13:58:31 | pinkutank | this is crowded |
| 13:58:32 | Acksaw | san the video doesnt work |
| 13:58:49 | San | it should |
| 13:58:50 | JdGordon | grr.. it keeps thinkign im pressing NAVI :< |
| 13:58:56 | San | JD |
| 13:59:03 | San | that is when audio is playing |
| 13:59:08 | San | restart the player |
| 13:59:16 | San | Acksaw, works for me |
| 13:59:20 | pinkutank | ohhh it was that cube you were talking about |
| 13:59:39 | ^BeN^ | someone try to install rockbox on H320 eu? |
| 13:59:45 | JdGordon | oh ok... i have to find the optoin to stop it restarting the playing on boot.. |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:36 | San | LinusN : I love you |
| 14:00:37 | San | :S |
| 14:00:37 | San | :P |
| 14:00:38 | Philip | Linus you are a genius!!! |
| 14:00:43 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 14:00:44 | Philip | :) |
| 14:01:08 | San | 3 cheers for linusN |
| 14:01:10 | San | hip hip |
| 14:01:14 | JdGordon | hooray |
| 14:01:18 | San | hip hip |
| 14:01:22 | Philip | hooray |
| 14:01:24 | Jungti1234 | yahoo! |
| 14:01:27 | JdGordon | horay |
| 14:01:29 | San | lol |
| 14:01:33 | Philip | :D |
| 14:01:38 | ^BeN^ | LOL |
| 14:01:55 | Philip | ??? how do i get out of battery test ??? |
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| 14:02:02 | | Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-133-209.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:02:20 | JdGordon | right.. so when do the games get ported to work on the bigger screen :D |
| 14:02:22 | ^BeN^ | [14:59:44] <^BeN^> someone try to install rockbox on H320 eu? |
| 14:02:41 | Philip | mine was originally eu |
| 14:02:48 | Philip | but i use k firmware |
| 14:03:12 | JdGordon | mine was from china i tihnk and works fine with the k fw and rb |
| 14:03:15 | Acksaw | Ben, someone has done it but it is recommended |
| 14:03:40 | Philip | i thourght i had broken it to start with because i hadn't copied the rockbox files :) |
| 14:03:49 | Jungti1234 | Philip: Does it operate well? |
| 14:03:54 | ^BeN^ | ok mmm patched to rockbox? |
| 14:03:56 | Philip | i think so |
| 14:04:08 | Philip | but im stuck in battery test :( |
| 14:04:26 | Philip | should i reset or just wait??? |
| 14:04:28 | LinusN | i'm slightly worried about all the non-developer installs... |
| 14:04:41 | Jungti1234 | playing music. |
| 14:04:45 | | Join iobound [0] (n=iobound@221.80-203-3.nextgentel.com) |
| 14:04:59 | Philip | i fully understand its my fault when i do anything wrong |
| 14:05:13 | ashridah | LinusN: yes, given the one person on the forum who seems to be having issues. |
| 14:05:17 | Philip | what how is it playing music?? |
| 14:05:18 | Jungti1234 | Do not you have any problem? |
| 14:05:31 | ^BeN^ | linusn did you recommend to wait? |
| 14:05:43 | ashridah | Philip: the unit will probably decode music, just not output it, thus, it will display the WPS, i imagine |
| 14:05:44 | LinusN | of course |
| 14:05:51 | Philip | yes |
| 14:06:03 | Philip | gives error cannot load codec |
| 14:06:08 | ^BeN^ | ok |
| 14:06:20 | speed123 | @ LinusN: you see how popluar Rockbox for H320 is, everyone wants it and many risk it |
| 14:06:30 | LinusN | :-) |
| 14:06:33 | Jungti1234 | play the music |
| 14:06:48 | * | ashridah notes he has to admit it only took him a few days to cave and flash his H140 after the bootloader came out |
| 14:07:06 | ghode|afk | i think i lasted about 5 mins... |
| 14:07:07 | Philip | cube looks cool |
| 14:07:11 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: Can you solve this problem? |
| 14:07:22 | LinusN | what problem? |
| 14:07:26 | ^BeN^ | mm linus what more need for realese the beta version |
| 14:07:29 | ^BeN^ | ? |
| 14:07:33 | Jungti1234 | -_-; |
| 14:07:38 | Jungti1234 | I talked all short time ago. |
| 14:07:51 | Jungti1234 | I'm using Korea model. Even if I do not touch it, LCD is lighted, and selects menu. |
| 14:08:03 | * | whatboutbob has no regrets it took him months to come around. caution is the better part of valour...whatever the hell that means... |
| 14:08:07 | speed123 | there is no korea model |
| 14:08:12 | thegeek | Jungti1234 : that is normal right now |
| 14:08:12 | speed123 | @jungti |
| 14:08:15 | LinusN | Jungti1234: did you try to play music? |
| 14:08:22 | Jungti1234 | tes |
| 14:08:23 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 14:08:26 | LinusN | don't |
| 14:08:38 | Coldtoast | _FireFly_: what are the pixel dimensions of the remote LCD? |
| 14:08:42 | * | iobound wonders what part of "for developers only" is hard to understand... |
| 14:08:48 | LinusN | it will boost the cpu frequency to 120MHz and the button driver goes ballistic |
| 14:08:54 | Jungti1234 | aha.. |
| 14:09:01 | thegeek | hehe |
| 14:09:12 | ghode|afk | hehe after 4 hours an answer ;p |
| 14:09:17 | Jungti1234 | It's normal? |
| 14:09:18 | LinusN | from now on: DO NOT ask why things don't work |
| 14:09:21 | JdGordon | why does it boot into iriver after plugging into the comp? |
| 14:09:26 | JdGordon | ok, ginore that |
| 14:09:33 | speed123 | ,-) |
| 14:09:41 | San | lol |
| 14:09:45 | thegeek | Jungti1234 : rockbox is not finished |
| 14:09:54 | Jungti1234 | I know :) |
| 14:10:00 | thegeek | you have to wait |
| 14:10:06 | LinusN | gotta go, cu guys |
| 14:10:08 | | Part LinusN |
| 14:10:09 | Jungti1234 | It's v1 yet. |
| 14:10:19 | thegeek | yes |
| 14:10:21 | thegeek | or |
| 14:10:23 | preglow | now, this isn't what i call the usual sunday #rockbox traffic |
| 14:10:24 | thegeek | 0.0001 |
| 14:10:25 | Jungti1234 | I can wait. |
| 14:10:26 | speed123 | Linus got pissed ^^ |
| 14:10:26 | thegeek | very early version |
| 14:10:31 | ashridah | Jungti1234: the BOOTLOADER is v1. rockbox itself is NOT FINISHED |
| 14:10:38 | thegeek | relax relax |
| 14:10:42 | Jungti1234 | I thank to linus. |
| 14:10:47 | | Quit iobound ("Leaving") |
| 14:10:54 | thegeek | I admire Jungti1234's perseverence |
| 14:10:55 | preglow | so who's bricked their h3x0 yet? |
| 14:11:01 | ghode|afk | speed123: no, i doubt it, more like he has a life :) |
| 14:11:04 | ashridah | preglow: someone on misticriver's having issues |
| 14:11:05 | thegeek | the poor guy has been sitting with a translator all this time |
| 14:11:12 | ashridah | thegeek: longer than you know. |
| 14:11:17 | thegeek | oh I know |
| 14:11:23 | thegeek | he's been coming here for a long time |
| 14:11:25 | ashridah | he's been a regular for the last month or two iirc. |
| 14:11:31 | thegeek | he tends to be here in the middle of the night |
| 14:11:38 | thegeek | and so do I |
| 14:11:41 | thegeek | ;) |
| 14:11:44 | thegeek | I know ashridah |
| 14:11:52 | thegeek | as I said |
| 14:11:55 | preglow | haha |
| 14:11:57 | thegeek | I admire his perseverence |
| 14:12:09 | ghode|afk | <ashridah> Jungti1234: the BOOTLOADER is v1 - v6 actually :/ |
| 14:12:11 | preglow | and the rockbox people were having bad thoughts about the ipod users |
| 14:12:17 | Maxime | ghode|afk: v1 for h3xx ^^ |
| 14:12:22 | thegeek | *perseverance |
| 14:12:24 | thegeek | bah |
| 14:12:35 | Jungti1234 | what is perseverance? |
| 14:12:36 | ashridah | ghode|afk: the H300 is v1 |
| 14:12:36 | linuxstb | preglow: The difference is that regular ipod users don't know about Rockbox yet. |
| 14:12:40 | thegeek | Jungti1234 : patience |
| 14:12:50 | ghode|afk | i really hope the ipod port comes along, i can't wait to dump my h140 |
| 14:12:59 | Jungti1234 | ^^ thanks |
| 14:13:09 | San | i'll but the H140 off you |
| 14:13:10 | San | :P |
| 14:13:14 | Jungti1234 | I can wait for H300. |
| 14:13:14 | thegeek | http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aperseverance |
| 14:13:16 | ghode|afk | sure \o. |
| 14:13:43 | thegeek | I wish the nano had 20gb |
| 14:13:43 | ashridah | you couldn't pay me to have an ipod |
| 14:13:46 | thegeek | then I'd switch;) |
| 14:13:50 | ghode|afk | linuxstb: i seriously doubt there will be many ipod converts if rbx doesnt find a way to support itunes |
| 14:13:50 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you start looking at the iFP interrupt code? |
| 14:14:01 | preglow | linuxstb: yes, it's on the way and should be done during the day |
| 14:14:01 | DMJC | H140 is fricking awesome |
| 14:14:03 | Jungti1234 | Until boot loader work is completed, I waited. |
| 14:14:13 | DMJC | OMG |
| 14:14:13 | thegeek | :) |
| 14:14:13 | ghode|afk | H140 is too thick :/ |
| 14:14:17 | DMJC | OF course |
| 14:14:21 | * | DMJC smacks forehead |
| 14:14:23 | Jungti1234 | hu.... |
| 14:14:29 | ashridah | ghode|afk: you know, that's never bothered me. |
| 14:14:33 | dwihno | If the nano got fat32 and worked like a mass storage usb device, I could be a convert ;) |
| 14:14:37 | linuxstb | ghode|afk: Why would a Rockbox user want to use iTunes? iTunes only supports a tiny number of the audio codecs Rockbox does. |
| 14:14:38 | * | DMJC just realized something |
| 14:14:38 | * | thegeek smack's DMJC's forehead too |
| 14:14:45 | DMJC | H140 is awesome size BTW |
| 14:14:49 | DMJC | it's fine |
| 14:14:58 | DMJC | I'm trying to case mod a G5 |
| 14:15:01 | ghode|afk | no a rockbox user wouldn't, but an ipod/itunes convert would want it |
| 14:15:03 | Jungti1234 | The Korea is night that is late. |
| 14:15:05 | DMJC | I just figured something out |
| 14:15:15 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 14:15:18 | jelle-k | 2:15 PM here :P |
| 14:15:26 | ghode|afk | ashridah: it's not bad, but the ipod has it on size, plus a bigger and colour screen |
| 14:15:27 | Jungti1234 | I'm appreciative all todays. |
| 14:15:28 | DMJC | why bother porting rockbox to ipod? |
| 14:15:31 | ashridah | jelle-k: holy crap, you mean the earth is round? :) |
| 14:15:32 | DMJC | they already have linux |
| 14:15:37 | ghode|afk | for fun? |
| 14:15:37 | hshah | why not? |
| 14:15:39 | jelle-k | :P |
| 14:15:42 | ghode|afk | why port to ihp :p |
| 14:15:43 | DMJC | port to something with a crappier firmware |
| 14:15:47 | whatboutbob | gnight all. |
| 14:15:47 | DMJC | heh |
| 14:15:47 | thegeek | good night Jungti1234 ;) |
| 14:15:49 | Jungti1234 | The Korea is 22:15. |
| 14:15:50 | ashridah | ghode|afk: yeah, except that colour existed for neither platform back when i got my H140 :) |
| 14:15:51 | DMJC | IHP firmware sucks? |
| 14:15:53 | ghode|afk | lol Rockbox to the Rescue |
| 14:15:57 | Jungti1234 | good night thegeek |
| 14:15:59 | ghode|afk | same here :) |
| 14:16:03 | ashridah | and the ipods were going through a huge string of manufacturing issues at the time |
| 14:16:08 | Jungti1234 | Everybody good night |
| 14:16:09 | hshah | why not make rockbox more popular than it already is...? |
| 14:16:10 | jelle-k | it crashes when i try to play music |
| 14:16:11 | ghode|afk | don't get me wrong, my ihp has treated me well for the year i've had it |
| 14:16:22 | DMJC | last I heard, noone complains about the ipod firmware |
| 14:16:23 | | Quit Jungti1234 ("Bye Bye~ http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300") |
| 14:16:26 | hshah | why not make rockbox the best? |
| 14:16:35 | ashridah | jelle-k: of course it does. |
| 14:16:39 | jelle-k | :P |
| 14:16:39 | ghode|afk | but i won't something new, and with rbx otw to ipod, the only wall agasint me getting one might be gone soon |
| 14:16:45 | linuxstb | DMJC: Lots of people complain about lack of gapless playback. |
| 14:16:53 | hshah | but when rockbox overtakes the ipod firmware, im sure we will hear some complaining... |
| 14:17:03 | DMJC | heh |
| 14:17:26 | | Part whatboutbob |
| 14:17:27 | ghode|afk | rbx is already better then the ipod firmware >< |
| 14:17:28 | DMJC | time to get out the old cad modeller |
| 14:17:30 | DMJC | and measuring tape |
| 14:17:43 | DMJC | need to figure out my sizes |
| 14:18:27 | thegeek | I don't see why you want to do that DMJC |
| 14:18:35 | thegeek | imho the g5 case is really boring |
| 14:18:38 | thegeek | it's "ok" |
| 14:18:40 | thegeek | but not nice |
| 14:18:57 | thegeek | and I really hate the handlebars |
| 14:18:59 | Acksaw | moment of truth... |
| 14:19:09 | DMJC | It'll be nice when it's got a nice blue glow coming from the grill |
| 14:19:13 | Acksaw | ok im upgrading |
| 14:19:16 | DMJC | handles are ok |
| 14:19:23 | thegeek | sure |
| 14:19:27 | thegeek | they are practical |
| 14:19:28 | * | ashridah notes you people are nuts |
| 14:19:29 | thegeek | but really ugly;) |
| 14:19:38 | thegeek | hehe |
| 14:19:39 | DMJC | nah |
| 14:19:39 | thegeek | ashridah |
| 14:19:42 | thegeek | don't complain |
| 14:19:43 | DMJC | it looks nice from the front |
| 14:19:55 | | Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc0bc.b.pppool.de) |
| 14:20:01 | DMJC | I know he hangs with icculus... he's as nuts as the rest of us |
| 14:20:02 | thegeek | this way none of th devs will ever have b0rked h3xx's |
| 14:20:02 | ashridah | thegeek: i mean for flashing yet not being developers. :) |
| 14:20:15 | thegeek | yes? |
| 14:20:43 | San | hey, what are the .wps's called for the H300? .rwps? |
| 14:20:45 | ashridah | DMJC: i'm just a groupie. |
| 14:20:47 | DMJC | means less turn around time when getting working firmware heh |
| 14:20:54 | DMJC | just download, unzip and go |
| 14:20:56 | DMJC | :D |
| 14:21:02 | DMJC | heh |
| 14:22:48 | muesli_- | San rwps are for the Remote |
| 14:23:10 | San | aaahh, ok |
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| 14:23:53 | pinkutank | create a dim setting for the backlight |
| 14:24:01 | pinkutank | can save tons of battery over that |
| 14:25:07 | San | anyway I can make the screen stay on for longer? |
| 14:25:13 | ashridah | pinkutank: iirc, the H3x0 has dimming circuits built in, but they suck |
| 14:25:28 | ashridah | San: there should be an option to set the amount of time the backlight stays on |
| 14:25:41 | San | any idea where? |
| 14:26:03 | ashridah | press a-b and go general->display->LCD settings |
| 14:26:07 | pinkutank | pwm dims? |
| 14:26:25 | | Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:26:37 | San | aaahh |
| 14:26:39 | San | got it, TY |
| 14:26:48 | ashridah | pinkutank: not sure how the hardware does it |
| 14:26:58 | ashridah | but PWM will typically jack the cpu usage up a fair bit |
| 14:27:06 | ashridah | which will actually cause power usage to increase :) |
| 14:27:45 | Acksaw | how to i get to the plugins? |
| 14:27:46 | Acksaw | from file list |
| 14:28:03 | San | press A-B |
| 14:28:08 | iobound | has anyone tried building a c++ crosscompiler for m68k-elf? |
| 14:28:10 | San | then browse plugins |
| 14:28:11 | Acksaw | i came up with like |
| 14:28:23 | Acksaw | got it |
| 14:28:24 | ashridah | iobound: c++? no. |
| 14:28:30 | Acksaw | thats amazing |
| 14:28:44 | San | :D |
| 14:28:44 | San | ;P |
| 14:28:52 | iobound | ashridah, i read in the wiki that libsidplay(2) support would require c++. i guess it would require a port of libstdc++ too? |
| 14:28:57 | Acksaw | how do i get off that? |
| 14:29:10 | ashridah | iobound: i believe they're suggesting more that someone should port it to C :) |
| 14:29:34 | ashridah | but if it uses libstdc++, it'd probably be horribly inefficient on any platform rockbox runs on, i daresay |
| 14:29:44 | Philip | buttons on H300 remote do not work as they should :( |
| 14:29:45 | ashridah | templating tends to go nuts on the memory usage, or on the stack, or both. |
| 14:29:55 | ashridah | Philip: correct. |
| 14:30:05 | ashridah | Acksaw: 'stop' should exit most plugins |
| 14:30:16 | ashridah | assuming it's bound properly in the code :) |
| 14:30:25 | Acksaw | doesnt exit batery test? |
| 14:30:28 | iobound | okay, i wasn't sure if gcc-with-c++ requires libstdc++, or if it's optional (as long as you don't explicitly use any c++ library thingies) |
| 14:30:47 | Philip | i had to reset battery test..... |
| 14:30:57 | Acksaw | its going up |
| 14:31:01 | Acksaw | so im assuming its testing |
| 14:31:04 | ashridah | iobound: afaik, libstdc++ is the STL templating library |
| 14:31:07 | Philip | i don't think it knows its pluged in??? |
| 14:31:09 | ashridah | you don't *have* to use it |
| 14:31:14 | iobound | ok |
| 14:31:14 | ashridah | but i have no idea if libsidplay does |
| 14:31:20 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.75) |
| 14:31:34 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 14:31:34 | ashridah | Philip: battery test doesn't know how to exit iirc. |
| 14:31:40 | iobound | sid support for the h300 would rock |
| 14:31:40 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/496 <- picture |
| 14:31:58 | ashridah | iobound: doesn't sid kinda require building your own hardware emulator? or am i thinking of some other format |
| 14:32:12 | Jungti1234 | It's Korean H300 user forum. |
| 14:33:10 | Jungti1234 | :) byr |
| 14:33:11 | iobound | no, sid is c64 tunes, libsidplay is actually a c64 emulator that only outputs PCM data |
| 14:33:12 | Jungti1234 | e |
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| 14:33:16 | ashridah | (not that building said emulator is impossible, since it's been done at just a bit under full speed for rockboy) |
| 14:35:58 | iobound | i'm going to try to build a c++ cross compiler and see if there are lots of compiler or linker errors building libsidplay |
| 14:36:27 | Philip | ashridah: that would explain it :) |
| 14:37:49 | Philip | anyone know default battery capacity of H300??? |
| 14:38:16 | DMJC | ~16 hours? |
| 14:38:34 | ashridah | Philip: the H1x0 has the capacity of the battery written on a label on the back of the unit, does the H3x0 not have this? |
| 14:38:37 | iobound | more like 12 hours i believe |
| 14:38:51 | pinkutank | what is the smalles timepiece i can use for alterating lines in wps |
| 14:40:06 | Philip | nope |
| 14:40:13 | Philip | in mAh |
| 14:40:43 | linuxstb | Anyone know what the bootloader.bin is that is linked to in the text just above the checksums table in the IriverBoot page? |
| 14:41:07 | pinkutank | can i have 0.5 in alternating lines in wps |
| 14:41:09 | pinkutank | s |
| 14:41:32 | San | how did the Devs make the rocks? (plugins) |
| 14:41:54 | pinkutank | what do you mean |
| 14:41:56 | ashridah | San: they're just compiled object code, set to load at a specific address, so far as i know |
| 14:42:08 | San | ah, ok |
| 14:42:09 | preglow | can i count on main() never returning? |
| 14:43:14 | linuxstb | preglow: Well, there's a while(1) loop in there, so I would guess not. |
| 14:43:29 | preglow | linuxstb: thanks... |
| 14:43:41 | preglow | should learn to look before i ask |
| 14:43:49 | linuxstb | :) |
| 14:44:36 | linuxstb | Are you using the latest CVS of rockbox for your iPod builds? |
| 14:45:19 | preglow | yes |
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| 14:47:36 | Philip | hmm.... my H300 now shuts down as soon as it turns on because i have resume turned on and it can't play the file so shuts down with codec failure.... help!!! |
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| 14:48:17 | iobound | would it be technically possible to use the h300's usb-otg port together with a 3com 802.11b wi-fi usb dongle to transfer files between a pc and the device? I guess it would require someone implements tcp/ip, such as the uIP stack, a prism54 driver, and an ftp client or something |
| 14:48:23 | preglow | well, delete your settings |
| 14:48:52 | Philip | oh yeh, forgot about that thank you |
| 14:49:13 | preglow | iobound: i guess so, but it would mean a _LOT_ of work |
| 14:49:22 | ashridah | iobound: possible yes. i doubt it'd be easy tho. |
| 14:49:45 | * | ashridah notes that it won't be long before people start expecting the usb-otg stuff to let them play two player link rockboy :) |
| 14:49:48 | iobound | ok, i don't know how much you can get for free from the uIP project and/or the linux kernel |
| 14:49:57 | thegeek | hehe ashridah |
| 14:50:12 | preglow | iobound: you can't just take it, it needs adapting for ages |
| 14:50:13 | thegeek | iobound : I'd still say that is a _huuuge_ project |
| 14:50:20 | Philip | would it be safe to patch a modified iriver firmware, ie with custom images or is that just asking for trouble |
| 14:50:37 | iobound | this uip project seems to be designed to be easily portable |
| 14:50:48 | preglow | Philip: might be safe, you're on your own there |
| 14:50:51 | ashridah | iobound: the linux kernel is fine, since it's GPL, but the actual code inthe kernel is unlikely to be that suitable for rockbox, since it'll generally rely on things like there being a functional malloc() implementation |
| 14:51:02 | ashridah | uIP sounds more plausible |
| 14:51:28 | thegeek | just the prism54 driver would be a lot of work |
| 14:51:47 | Philip | i think i'll leave it till someone else tries first |
| 14:52:05 | ashridah | thegeek: hell with that. usb-otg's going to be a lot of work first :) |
| 14:52:06 | iobound | ok, i haven't read its source, but i do know that it downloads a binary firmware to the device and talks with that, maybe the layer above that isn't that complicated?! just making a wild guess here |
| 14:52:22 | thegeek | ;) |
| 14:52:31 | thegeek | still iobound |
| 14:52:35 | thegeek | I doubt that will happen |
| 14:52:40 | pinkutank | hmm, for a wps, would oyu like song rating on the middle left of the screen or the center of the very top, like the middle of statusbar |
| 14:53:39 | preglow | i would like it not to be in the wps at all ;) |
| 14:53:45 | preglow | but i guess it's not me you're asking, heh |
| 14:53:59 | pinkutank | II asked yesterday night, people wanted it |
| 14:54:05 | pinkutank | I can always create other versions |
| 14:54:19 | pinkutank | so this is for the ones who want it |
| 14:54:35 | pinkutank | I never used it before, I dont even use the tag database atm :D |
| 14:54:46 | thegeek | shocking. |
| 14:54:47 | preglow | i'm pretty satisifed with the original wps for the moment being |
| 14:55:15 | speed123 | could rockbox use SRS-Sound on H3xx? |
| 14:55:16 | preglow | thegeek: woah, you live where i used to be living, by the looks of your address |
| 14:55:21 | Acksaw | woo |
| 14:55:22 | Acksaw | this is amazing |
| 14:55:24 | thegeek | :) |
| 14:55:38 | pill | hi |
| 14:55:41 | Philip | got to go bye guys |
| 14:55:42 | iobound | speed123 isn't that just a software thing? i guess if you can find an open source implementation of srs-sound then maybe? :) |
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| 14:55:49 | pill | what's new in BL v6? |
| 14:55:49 | thegeek | not improbable preglow |
| 14:55:56 | preglow | thegeek: steinan, yes? which part? |
| 14:56:01 | thegeek | mhm:) |
| 14:56:08 | thegeek | i ett av småhusene |
| 14:56:18 | thegeek | rett ovenfor bunnpris;) |
| 14:56:24 | preglow | thegeek: right, blokk her |
| 14:56:28 | preglow | but english! |
| 14:56:29 | thegeek | hehe;) |
| 14:56:38 | thegeek | bah |
| 14:56:51 | thegeek | I doubt anyone finds it all that interesting;) |
| 14:57:01 | Acksaw | battery test frezes alot |
| 14:57:03 | thegeek | you used to live here? |
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| 14:57:25 | preglow | thegeek: yup, ab 18-34 |
| 14:57:34 | thegeek | :) |
| 14:57:49 | preglow | i'm missing the net connection already |
| 14:57:54 | thegeek | hehehe |
| 14:58:05 | thegeek | it's actually kinda eevil |
| 14:58:11 | thegeek | I keep maxing out my 20gb |
| 14:58:16 | preglow | haha |
| 14:58:20 | ashridah | Acksaw: battery test is expected to go nuts on the hd, constantly writing to disk. there's no point in trying it. |
| 14:58:28 | thegeek | I had to setup my own system to prevent beeing blocked |
| 14:58:29 | preglow | so they're still playing that game, are they |
| 14:58:33 | thegeek | yeah |
| 14:58:34 | thegeek | it sucks |
| 14:58:42 | preglow | started about half a year before i moved |
| 14:58:47 | thegeek | I dont see why they can't throttle instead of block completely |
| 14:58:48 | Acksaw | how do ya load iriver firmware? |
| 14:58:53 | ashridah | speed123: it's unlikely that SRS will be supported |
| 14:58:58 | NicoFR | how many people have tryed flashing intl h300s ?? |
| 14:58:58 | thegeek | thank god my system works great |
| 14:59:02 | preglow | thegeek: think they're trying to make a point |
| 14:59:02 | speed123 | ok |
| 14:59:05 | thegeek | if not I would be without net right now;) |
| 14:59:07 | thegeek | I know preglow |
| 14:59:10 | ashridah | unless you can convince the company that owns the patents on it to give royalty free GPL compatible licenses to rockbox :) |
| 14:59:12 | thegeek | but I don't have to like it;) |
| 14:59:17 | preglow | haha, don't think anyone does |
| 14:59:20 | thegeek | mhm |
| 14:59:20 | preglow | but anywho, back to coding |
| 14:59:24 | thegeek | :) |
| 14:59:27 | Acksaw | anyone know how to boot into iriver fw? |
| 14:59:33 | thegeek | hold record |
| 14:59:43 | ashridah | Acksaw: hold record while turning it on |
| 14:59:44 | Acksaw | doesnt work |
| 14:59:48 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 14:59:48 | preglow | if i can't navigate menus with my nano tonight, i've failed |
| 14:59:54 | ashridah | Acksaw: you might need to reset the player first |
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| 15:00:02 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:00:24 | Acksaw | so hold play and record at same time? |
| 15:00:27 | thegeek | mhm |
| 15:01:10 | Acksaw | argh got nowt to reset with |
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| 15:01:18 | Acksaw | reset whilst in rockbox? |
| 15:01:51 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 15:02:20 | ashridah | Acksaw: since one of the deficiencies of rockbox currently is that it doesn't power down properly, holding stop will go into low power mode or something, but you still need to reset it to get a chance at using the iriver original firmware |
| 15:02:28 | iobound | well i got a "g++.exe" when compiling gcc-3.4.4 −−target=m68k-elf −−enable-languages=c,c++ but make failed a while afterwards, apparently trying to build "libstdc++3", claiming "error: No support for this host/target combination" :( |
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| 15:03:15 | preglow | iobound: why are you compiled c++ support? |
| 15:03:36 | iobound | preglow just seeing if it would be possible to add it without any effort, then to see if libsidplay2 would compile |
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| 15:03:41 | ashridah | iobound: bummer. |
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| 15:04:19 | Acksaw | when i reset |
| 15:04:23 | iobound | well if libstdc++ is not needed i think maybe this "g++.exe" could work, but then again I think you need stdc++ for anything c++, to do destructors and RTTI and all that jazz |
| 15:04:24 | Acksaw | then press on then record |
| 15:04:26 | Acksaw | it turns off |
| 15:04:55 | ashridah | hold record while pressing on |
| 15:05:10 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 15:05:11 | Acksaw | =] |
| 15:05:18 | ashridah | it might get confused and think the hold switch is on |
| 15:05:19 | preglow | iobound: ahh, just think how much of that you'll need to disable anyway! |
| 15:05:23 | preglow | like rtti and exceptions |
| 15:05:36 | ashridah | since the timing is such that it thinks the only place it could turn on is on the remote, which will not have been the source. |
| 15:06:02 | iobound | preglow why exceptions, do they need OS support? |
| 15:06:34 | preglow | iobound: well, it MIGHT work, but then you need to catch all of them in plugin_main |
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| 15:06:40 | Subterranean | quick question, can you/how do you take a screen capture and can you do this while using a plugin as well as a WPS screen? i tried looking in the wiki but couldnt find it |
| 15:06:44 | preglow | iobound: god knows what happens if you don't |
| 15:07:12 | ashridah | Subterranean: there's a debug option that lets you enable the taking of screenshots whenever you plug usb in. i have no idea if this works on the H3x0 yet |
| 15:07:14 | iobound | alright, i'm just trying to get an idea of how much effort it would be to make it work :) |
| 15:07:37 | linuxstb | iobound: Does libsidplay2 rely very heavily on C++ features? |
| 15:07:38 | preglow | iobound: sure, and let us know if you make it |
| 15:07:41 | ashridah | iobound: i rather suspect you'd have more luck porting the emulator to C :) |
| 15:07:51 | iobound | linuxstb well, everything are classes at least |
| 15:07:56 | iobound | ashridah, yeah me too :) |
| 15:08:32 | linuxstb | I imagine that a C++ program could be written in such as way that it is either easy or very hard to port to C. I'm just wondering where libsidplay2 lies on that scale. |
| 15:08:46 | preglow | easy, is my gues |
| 15:08:46 | Subterranean | ashridah: ah thanks, i think ill stay out of the debug for now, until things are less likely to break :) |
| 15:08:48 | preglow | s |
| 15:09:06 | iobound | preglow yeah me too, quickly looking at files, it does seem to use stdio.h and other c-isms at least |
| 15:09:14 | ashridah | Subterranean: most of debug is just informational |
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| 15:10:36 | preglow | how many devs actually have h3x0 units? |
| 15:10:43 | iobound | i have a h340 |
| 15:11:04 | speed123 | i |
| 15:11:06 | ashridah | linuxstb: i seem to recall that gcc just translates c++ to C in order to compile it anyway. could be completely misinformed there tho |
| 15:11:07 | iobound | but i'm not a dev |
| 15:11:19 | preglow | iobound: well, if you're willing to help, you are ;) |
| 15:11:29 | preglow | ashridah: hell no |
| 15:11:34 | iobound | sure but it's been a while since i did anything in c |
| 15:11:37 | linuxstb | ashridah: I think that was only true in the very very early days. |
| 15:11:46 | preglow | ashridah: cfront did that, gcc doesn't |
| 15:11:53 | ashridah | preglow: stand corrected. |
| 15:13:09 | preglow | man, arm exceptions are strange |
| 15:13:19 | ashridah | okay. question for misticriver types |
| 15:13:25 | preglow | instructions you need to use to return depend on which exception you're in! |
| 15:13:30 | ashridah | is there a way to get 'new posts in subscribed forums' only? |
| 15:15:20 | Acksaw | febs still here? |
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| 15:19:36 | Acksaw | wheres this sudoku game? |
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| 15:20:07 | ashridah | Acksaw: it'll be under the rockbox plugins menu. a-b -> browse plugins |
| 15:20:16 | Acksaw | whats it called? |
| 15:21:09 | Maxime | sudoku ^^ |
| 15:21:15 | iobound | well now I get an "C compiler cannot create executables" when trying to cross-compile libsidplay2. because m68k-elf-ld cannot find "-lc", which is natural. Does rockbox have a mini-C-library, or what? Do I understand the source right when pointers to memcpy etc are given in the codec_api struct? |
| 15:21:33 | preglow | it's not compiled yet |
| 15:21:36 | preglow | sudoku requires b&w display |
| 15:21:36 | ashridah | hrm. i must have been thinking of sokoban |
| 15:21:40 | Acksaw | there isnt one called sudoku |
| 15:21:43 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 15:21:50 | Acksaw | sokoban is a classi |
| 15:21:54 | ashridah | my bad |
| 15:21:54 | Acksaw | i cant do level 3 though... |
| 15:22:53 | ashridah | iobound: you'll have to rewrite all parts of libsidplay that attempts to use standard C libraries to use the rockbox plugin interface equivalent (if it exists). have fun with that :) |
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| 15:23:38 | iobound | ashridah, alright. so all the strcpy stuff is supplied in the codec_api, right? |
| 15:23:56 | linuxstb | iobound: Others may disagree, but I think you should start by getting libsidplay2 working as a plugin, rather than as a codec. |
| 15:24:09 | preglow | you'll pretty much have to |
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| 15:24:21 | preglow | the codec layer can't handle sidplay yet |
| 15:24:26 | preglow | that is, perhaps it can |
| 15:24:46 | preglow | it might be confused by you never reading any data, though, heh |
| 15:24:49 | * | San woves his woxbox |
| 15:25:11 | linuxstb | I think getting it working as a plugin will be slightly easier - otherwise you don't know if problems are caused by libsidplay or the playback system. |
| 15:25:18 | preglow | yup |
| 15:25:31 | linuxstb | If you write a plugin, then you are 100% in control of things. |
| 15:25:45 | San | what are they written in? |
| 15:25:48 | San | C? |
| 15:25:49 | iobound | Okay, I just wanted to see if i could produce a libsidplay.a with the cross-compiler, as a first step. Guess I've hit a wall now and it's time to actually put in some effort, so I'll postpone this until later ;) |
| 15:26:07 | linuxstb | San: Yes. |
| 15:26:14 | San | kk |
| 15:26:49 | San | any other plugins avable, or is it just the ones that come with it |
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| 15:27:44 | * | Acksaw np: Test-Icicles - Dancing On Pegs [02:22m/192Kbps/44KHz] |
| 15:28:08 | Acksaw | is there any chance of bricking my player while its runnig rbx? |
| 15:28:13 | linuxstb | There may be some on the patch tracker - see the link on the rockbox home page. |
| 15:32:09 | ashridah | Acksaw: the player itself might crash, but that's generally fixable with a reset. the bootloader tends to be reasonably well tested by necessity |
| 15:32:23 | preglow | Acksaw: of course there is |
| 15:32:49 | ashridah | of course, rockbox itself could overdrive hardware inside the unit :) |
| 15:32:53 | preglow | linus has expressively stated anything might happen, and it's currently inly for developers |
| 15:33:05 | ashridah | particularly since the unit is software overclockable :) |
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| 15:35:12 | pinkutank | i forgot how to get screeen dumps form the player |
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| 15:35:46 | San | can someone send me the source code of snake so I can see what it has to be coded like please? |
| 15:36:05 | preglow | it's in cvs |
| 15:36:08 | Philip | san do you have an international h300?? |
| 15:36:17 | iobound | san it's in the cvs |
| 15:36:21 | pinkutank | ermm, how do we get screendumps |
| 15:36:26 | pinkutank | from the paly |
| 15:36:32 | pinkutank | from the player |
| 15:36:36 | Philip | because the iriver firmware finds on files :( |
| 15:36:42 | iobound | ashridah, what's that about overclocking? got any more info? |
| 15:36:47 | Philip | *no files |
| 15:36:53 | pinkutank | in debug? |
| 15:37:04 | Philip | it can see them in browser but not play them |
| 15:37:17 | ashridah | iobound: the unit, in order to save power, can clock the cpu down to much much lower frequencies |
| 15:37:36 | ashridah | these are set by twiddling a few i/o bits, more or less |
| 15:37:44 | iobound | yeah i know that, i thought you meant it was possible to run at greater speeds than what the original firmware ever does |
| 15:38:16 | iobound | ah, i missed the "software" part of "software overclockable" |
| 15:38:20 | ashridah | iobound: it might be possible, i don't know the hardware that well, there might be a cap at 120MHz |
| 15:38:48 | preglow | depends on the cpu, h1x0 has cap at 140 |
| 15:38:50 | iobound | so, did anyone brick their h300 yet, or was that forum report bogus? |
| 15:39:08 | ashridah | i wouldn't recommend it, the heat buildup at 120MHz is fairly high, the units tend to start overheating if the disk is on at the same time as it's running at 120MHz |
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| 15:39:28 | ashridah | iobound: don't know. the two votes in the poll aren't actually bricks. |
| 15:39:36 | Philip | my H300 is almost unusable... |
| 15:39:52 | ashridah | Philip: that's not because the bootloader's failing tho |
| 15:39:53 | iobound | Philip, why, can't you boot back to the iriver firmware? |
| 15:39:56 | San | i have a US one |
| 15:39:57 | Philip | both boot but none play music :? |
| 15:40:12 | San | Phillip, hold down play when booting |
| 15:40:17 | Philip | the iriver displays no files |
| 15:40:36 | Philip | i can boot iriver but it can't find any files??? |
| 15:40:40 | San | can someone link me to the CVS please? |
| 15:40:42 | ashridah | Philip: there's a setting that lets it decide whether to show 'supported' 'music' 'all' or something like that |
| 15:40:58 | iobound | san http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS |
| 15:41:02 | San | ty |
| 15:41:27 | Philip | not in rockbox, that shows ok but doesn't play the music, the iriver firmware doesn't find any files |
| 15:41:37 | ashridah | Philip: that is strange. |
| 15:41:43 | Philip | i know |
| 15:41:52 | iobound | philip can you see the files from a PC if you use the iriver firmware for USB? |
| 15:42:03 | Philip | i'm deleting some of the files off the player to see if that helps |
| 15:42:09 | NicoFR | Philip: intl or US H300 ? |
| 15:42:13 | Philip | yes USB works |
| 15:42:16 | Philip | intl |
| 15:42:18 | ashridah | Philip: chkdsk it or something too, perhaps? |
| 15:42:33 | iobound | maybe rbx wrote something to the fat32 structuers that the iriver firmware fat driver can't parse |
| 15:42:34 | Philip | they even show up in the iriver browser but not in music playmode |
| 15:42:43 | iobound | ok THAT is weird |
| 15:43:04 | NicoFR | have you tried to flash back to original iriver firmware ? |
| 15:43:12 | iobound | philip in the music browser, can't you see any directories either? |
| 15:43:35 | Philip | no |
| 15:43:50 | iobound | and you're browsing the root directory, not ".rockbox" or anything silly like that? :) |
| 15:43:52 | Philip | it used to have a 1 Mb partition |
| 15:44:03 | Philip | and a 37Gb partition |
| 15:44:13 | Philip | the 1Mb partition has gone??? |
| 15:44:22 | Philip | odd |
| 15:44:23 | San | anyway of taking a screendump of the player? |
| 15:44:27 | iobound | it did? i don't think mine had more than 1 partition |
| 15:44:34 | Philip | oh |
| 15:44:48 | iobound | but i can't remember for sure, don't have the player with me right now |
| 15:44:55 | ashridah | San: not sure if it works on the H3x0, but the info->debug->screendump option lets it make .bmp files of the screen whenever you plug in the usb cable. |
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| 15:45:08 | pinkutank | http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0001.bmp |
| 15:45:13 | pinkutank | http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0002.bmp |
| 15:45:16 | Subterranean | San: I tried the debug menu method and it didnt work for me on H320 |
| 15:45:17 | pinkutank | which is better? |
| 15:45:30 | San | TY Subterranean |
| 15:45:35 | ashridah | San: guess that answers your question. no, there isn't :) |
| 15:45:37 | ashridah | yet |
| 15:45:41 | San | kk |
| 15:45:58 | Subterranean | i might have just been useless and not used it properly, feel free to try it anyway |
| 15:46:03 | Kyl3 | i was playing snake and that other game all night |
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| 15:46:20 | Azraak | Hi all. |
| 15:46:43 | Azraak | Don't actually have a Rockbox capable player yet, but thinking of getting an H340 and wondering if I can ask some stupid questions about the voice UI (blind user) |
| 15:46:48 | Kyl3 | If I play a song it crashes. |
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| 15:47:44 | speed123 | @atraak i could help u. ask |
| 15:49:08 | Azraak | Does voice UI speak if music is paused? Obviously, it can't speak during playback, but was wondering how one would browse, access quick menu, bookmarking, etc. without losing position in file. Does pressing stop and then play again resume from last stopped position? I assume it does from reading the FAQs but not sure if auto resume occurs after pressing stop |
| 15:49:39 | Azraak | and bookmarking can probably be worked around by learning the key sequences |
| 15:50:57 | pinkutank | you can press play and pause the song ? |
| 15:51:08 | speed123 | sorry i dont know about voice UI. The normal firmware cant "talk" or recognise Controls by voice° (if you mean that) |
| 15:51:11 | NicoFR | so do you know how many people have tryed flashing intl h300s ?? |
| 15:51:25 | speed123 | so far i guess to many |
| 15:51:45 | Subterranean | NicoFR: i flashed my intl h320 and its working fine so far |
| 15:51:52 | pinkutank | the normal firmware cant talk? |
| 15:52:01 | NicoFR | I'm considering doing it |
| 15:52:02 | pinkutank | i tohught it can fi you record the voice files |
| 15:52:09 | Philip | has anyone else got the same problem as me, not being able to play music using the default iriver firmware??? |
| 15:52:31 | Kyl3 | no |
| 15:52:51 | Azraak | mmm, no i meant rockbox |
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| 15:53:19 | speed123 | i think there is a plugin, but rockbox is not even beta for the H3xx |
| 15:53:37 | speed123 | but it could i guess but not yet |
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| 15:53:54 | Azraak | mmm <nods> sorry, my bad. I meant I was considering buying an h300 but I am aware it's not there yet for the 300 |
| 15:53:57 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you notice any differences between the Nano button driver and the 4G one in ipodlinux? I'm wondering if I should remove the IPOD_NANO_PAD definition. |
| 15:54:10 | speed123 | i have to go ... |
| 15:54:10 | Azraak | I was more meaning on current units like the h1xx and Archos units |
| 15:54:37 | speed123 | well its a awsome player with rockbox even more |
| 15:54:38 | speed123 | cu |
| 15:54:44 | | Part speed123 |
| 15:55:08 | preglow | linuxstb: haven't looked much at it |
| 15:55:39 | linuxstb | I noticed that you have challenged yourself to get menu browsing working today :) |
| 15:56:00 | preglow | haha, yes |
| 15:56:06 | preglow | i'm starting to wonder if it's not a little bit amitious |
| 15:56:48 | linuxstb | Maybe, but it's good to aim high. |
| 15:56:59 | preglow | sure |
| 15:57:14 | linuxstb | Your Rockbox seems to be better than mine though - it's not showing the file browser, and the "Ver: " text in the splash is corrupt. |
| 15:57:23 | | Part Loenie |
| 15:57:26 | preglow | yes, i was wondering about that |
| 15:57:32 | preglow | you think that's hardware differences playing in? |
| 15:58:11 | linuxstb | I'm going to investigate now. I added a lcd_puts in init(), and that displays perfectly. Maybe it's the ATA driver. |
| 15:59:05 | linuxstb | Does Rockbox completely clear the display for you? Your first screenshot still has some of the logo visible. |
| 15:59:18 | San | you know the boot screen, the picture, where is that located? |
| 15:59:20 | preglow | no, it doesn't |
| 15:59:24 | preglow | i've got the residual logo on the left |
| 15:59:30 | preglow | and i've also got some garbage characters on the bottom |
| 15:59:39 | preglow | legible characters, but they shouldn't be there, heh |
| 15:59:40 | NicoFR | just flashed my intl h320 |
| 15:59:44 | NicoFR | it works |
| 15:59:45 | linuxstb | I get those same garbage characters. |
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| 16:00:05 | linuxstb | $, @ and some letters with accents. |
| 16:00:26 | pinkutank | cant I use an alternating line in a conditional |
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| 16:01:42 | linuxstb | San: apps/recorder/logo-h300.c - it's created using tools/bmp2rb |
| 16:01:52 | preglow | man, it's cold around here |
| 16:02:37 | Acksaw | indeed |
| 16:02:43 | Acksaw | im in me house with heating on and im cold/. |
| 16:03:04 | San | thanks linuxstb |
| 16:03:14 | preglow | think i'll get a cuppa |
| 16:04:55 | dwihno | Are there any ways to "test" arm assembly code except on target? |
| 16:05:13 | San | is anyone working on making the audio work ATM? |
| 16:05:15 | preglow | there are sims around, i guess |
| 16:05:23 | preglow | the ifp guy has got a simulator |
| 16:10:37 | pinkutank | id apprecieate if you guys could com ment on my wps |
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| 16:11:28 | pinkutank | http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0001.bmp |
| 16:11:32 | pinkutank | http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0002.bmp |
| 16:12:24 | San | do 4 color bmps work on the H300? |
| 16:13:09 | linuxstb | San: Which part of Rockbox? Different depths are used for different |
| 16:13:17 | linuxstb | ... parts |
| 16:14:29 | San | like and image |
| 16:14:34 | San | *like, an image |
| 16:14:40 | San | just for picture viewing |
| 16:15:23 | San | I am going to try one now anyway |
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| 16:15:52 | Acksaw | pink |
| 16:15:55 | Acksaw | is that on h300? |
| 16:15:58 | linuxstb | San: If you're talking about logo-h300.c, then that is 16-bit colour. |
| 16:16:15 | linuxstb | I think most of the other bitmaps used internally in Rockbox are mono, but I'm not 100% sure. |
| 16:16:48 | San | no, I am talking about just a normal picture that you might wana n=view on the HD of it |
| 16:17:05 | linuxstb | You mean using the jpeg viewer? |
| 16:17:17 | San | yes |
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| 16:18:00 | linuxstb | I don't think that will work at all on the H300 - it uses the greyscale library for display. IIRC, it doesn't decode the colour information from the JPEG file. |
| 16:18:26 | preglow | jpeg plug will require work, yes |
| 16:18:43 | preglow | it doesn't decode chroma at all, now |
| 16:18:50 | pinkutank | acksaw? are you asking me |
| 16:18:54 | pinkutank | its h120 |
| 16:18:54 | Acksaw | yeh |
| 16:18:56 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 16:18:58 | Acksaw | its nice |
| 16:19:18 | pinkutank | no reason why it should not work on h320 once it properly supports wps |
| 16:19:33 | pinkutank | I'll make color versions, I'm going to buy an h340 too |
| 16:20:06 | linuxstb | Mmm. I just got a message from my ipod saying "Save Failed. No partition?" I guess it failed to write the settings when shutting down. |
| 16:20:32 | pinkutank | does anyone know of a wps that has an animated battery when charging |
| 16:21:52 | iobound | what's the reason sound support is missing in h300? missing "soundcard" driver, or just that the audio decoder chip is wired differently, etc? |
| 16:24:26 | iobound | there's a link on the wiki to a philips webpage for the "uda1380", i'm guessing this is the "sound card"? I don't understand this part: ..and 8 to 100 kHz for the DAC part. The ADC does not support DVD audio (96 kHz audio) .. DVD playback is supported. Is 96khz playback possible or not? |
| 16:25:39 | linuxstb | iobound: The DAC can only be used at 44.1KHz - I've been told its a limitation of the Coldfire CPU. |
| 16:26:38 | iobound | okay, um.. what does the CPU have to do with anything? (I'm not a hardware geek) |
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| 16:27:40 | iobound | oh, the stuff i just pasted, it's the ADCwhich is limitd to 55khz, the DAC has the full 8-100khz range apparently? |
| 16:28:17 | Acksaw | i found something... |
| 16:28:22 | Acksaw | when charging a h300 |
| 16:28:24 | linuxstb | iobound: I don't understand it either. But this information comes from LinusN. |
| 16:28:29 | iobound | ok |
| 16:28:31 | Acksaw | pressing play goes to iriver fw not to rockbox |
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| 16:29:56 | Acksaw | what replaygain? |
| 16:30:35 | preglow | linuxstb: well, that doesn't exactly bode well |
| 16:30:40 | preglow | linuxstb: i just got 'shutting down', then hanged |
| 16:30:48 | preglow | but that's understandable |
| 16:32:15 | iobound | Acksaw, isn't that something about a volume boost factor being encoded in the audio file, so you'll get equivalent volume output on everything you listen to (that has this information), kind of like a normalization? |
| 16:34:19 | linuxstb | preglow: I think it's because my hard disk had powered down. I haven't looked that part of the ATA driver yet. |
| 16:34:49 | preglow | linuxstb: right, and the nano probably doesn't have that problem |
| 16:35:51 | linuxstb | The file tree is displaying (without any logo in the background) if I add an lcd_update to the end of the update_dir() function in tree.c |
| 16:36:11 | linuxstb | If I don't add that lcd_update, I don't see anything - the logo remains. |
| 16:36:18 | Acksaw | im stuck on level 3 sokoban |
| 16:36:18 | preglow | hmm |
| 16:36:27 | preglow | i wonder what mode the arm is in after apple bootloader |
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| 16:37:08 | linuxstb | Maybe lcd_update_rect doesn't work properly - I'm guessing that's what the file browser uses. |
| 16:37:27 | tim66 | Hi all, does anyone here have any experience of using debian's toolchain package and tpkg-* tools to create the m68k crosscompiler? |
| 16:37:31 | linuxstb | preglow: I'm sure the IPL people will know. |
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| 16:38:59 | Acksaw | anyone can get past level 3 sokoban |
| 16:39:03 | linuxstb | tim66: IMHO, It's not worth the effort. Build it yourself and install it in in your home directory, out of the way of any Debian packages. |
| 16:41:52 | Slasheri | yep. The crosscompiler is very easy to install manually |
| 16:42:02 | Slasheri | just two wgets, configures and makes |
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| 16:52:14 | preglow | seems like rockbox is currently running in supervisor mode right now :P |
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| 16:53:57 | tim66 | linuxstb: thanks for the tip. I was hoping that just running a couple of tpkg commands would simplify the process :-) but I've been fiddling with it for *far* too long now! sounds like handmade is the answer |
| 16:54:20 | tim66 | linuxstb: hope I don't have the same trouble getting it to use gcc 3.4 instead of 4 ;-) |
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| 16:56:52 | muesli_- | does somebody know when iriver released v1.65 for h100? |
| 16:59:54 | preglow | it looks like the ifp guy also just lets it remain in supervisor moide |
| 16:59:55 | preglow | mode |
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| 17:00:51 | linuxstb | tim66: Lots of people come here and ask about using pre-build cross-compilers. All of them end up compiling from source :) |
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| 17:06:35 | preglow | hmm, set it up in user mode, works just dandy |
| 17:06:42 | pinkutank | hoi hoi, holaaaa, does anyone know if I can put alternating lines inside a conditional to make an animated icon |
| 17:07:09 | pinkutank | acksaw you talking about the plugin sokoban? |
| 17:09:28 | preglow | linuxstb: what characters do you get on the bottom? i get $, â, @ and some other nice stuff |
| 17:11:27 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes, I get exactly the same. |
| 17:13:47 | pinkutank | ok sokoban lvl 4 now |
| 17:14:02 | mordov | struggeking with the wps's;) iis it posible to nake a line scroll but only at parts of the sreecn? (not whole) |
| 17:14:33 | preglow | time for dinner |
| 17:15:08 | pinkutank | not yer mordov |
| 17:15:13 | pinkutank | I've been asking that for ages |
| 17:15:20 | pinkutank | wish i knew c ++ |
| 17:15:25 | mordov | ;) |
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| 17:15:54 | mordov | can I make the beps front pixel? |
| 17:16:12 | mordov | so bmp's wount get disturbed from the sdroll? |
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| 17:16:28 | mordov | -beps +bmp's |
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| 17:17:22 | mordov | som whay to draw "white" |
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| 17:21:20 | pinkutank | no |
| 17:21:36 | pinkutank | i mean i wasnt able to do so at least |
| 17:23:21 | mordov | :) |
| 17:24:09 | Wett | does someone know if it's now possible to play mp3 sound in a plugin ? |
| 17:25:19 | linuxstb | Wett: Not at the moment. What are you wanting to do? |
| 17:26:34 | Wett | still thinking of porting video plugin to ihp1x0 :) I already tried to, but i had problems i could'nt manage to solve |
| 17:26:58 | Wett | it was so buggy, I certainly not had the correct approach |
| 17:27:27 | pinkutank | can someone tell acksaw he is really the sokoban idiot for gettin stuck at lvl 3 |
| 17:29:56 | Cassandra | Hmmm. I think the display code is desperately in need of some "image / wps buffer full" messages. |
| 17:30:27 | linuxstb | Wett: I think the correct approach for video would be to use the existing playback code. You would need a video codec which did both audio and video decoding and kept the two in sync. |
| 17:31:41 | linuxstb | Most of the infrastructure is there now, but you would obviously have to stop the WPS screen displaying anything. |
| 17:32:12 | Wett | yeah that's what I did, but my problems were to play the decoded sound, in fact it just crashes if the buffer is filling, with some strange and always different messages |
| 17:32:37 | Wett | oh oh oh i misunderstood |
| 17:33:14 | Wett | you suggest me not to play it with a plugin |
| 17:34:40 | Wett | interesting, I did not think about that. Have to explore that way |
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| 17:35:46 | linuxstb | Does video playback use the greyscale library? |
| 17:36:33 | Wett | nope, it flips images 50 or 60 times a sec. |
| 17:37:19 | Wett | which makes "pause" impossible ^^ |
| 17:39:26 | pinkutank | why 50-60,its useless |
| 17:39:29 | pinkutank | 25 |
| 17:39:40 | pinkutank | 20 even would be far more than enough |
| 17:39:48 | Wett | it's a little different here |
| 17:39:51 | linuxstb | pinkutank: To give the illusion of more shades of grey than the LCD can actually display. |
| 17:40:01 | linuxstb | IIUC |
| 17:40:01 | pinkutank | oh oh forgot grayscale |
| 17:40:02 | pinkutank | sorry |
| 17:40:29 | pinkutank | it will be different in h320 tho |
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| 17:41:09 | Wett | yes of course, but i don't have one ;) |
| 17:41:57 | linuxstb | amiconn: I've uploaded a scan of my ipod if you still want it: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodcolor-scan.png |
| 17:42:29 | pinkutank | whoa png |
| 17:42:49 | pinkutank | wherefore? |
| 17:43:29 | pinkutank | for sim? |
| 17:43:44 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 17:44:04 | muesli- | how big is that file? |
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| 17:44:28 | pinkutank | I think an edited photo would work better? |
| 17:44:38 | pinkutank | 5mb |
| 17:44:49 | linuxstb | Best to be too big and scale down than the other way around. |
| 17:45:12 | muesli- | yepp...my isdn line gets blasted |
| 17:45:13 | pinkutank | ipods are not bo rn to be scanned |
| 17:45:41 | muesli- | imho the display is enough |
| 17:46:14 | pinkutank | youd be working away from the original kinda ui thos |
| 17:46:23 | pinkutank | do you want me to shorten the ipd? |
| 17:46:33 | pinkutank | like have display, and the wheel right udner it |
| 17:46:49 | pinkutank | smaller than orig? |
| 17:47:02 | linuxstb | I'll leave that up to amiconn - assuming he still wants to get the ipod sim working. |
| 17:47:27 | pinkutank | ender is a turkish name |
| 17:47:48 | pinkutank | but it could be just end-er |
| 17:47:49 | pinkutank | :D |
| 17:47:51 | ender` | ender is a character from an american book |
| 17:47:59 | Wett | speaking of sim, what is currently possible to do with ? play sound ? Or at least simulate it plays sound ? |
| 17:48:32 | pinkutank | mine doesnt even have a owrking progress bar because songs dont play |
| 17:49:13 | pinkutank | does any of you guys kjnow a household item thatd work as ppolish? |
| 17:49:33 | linuxstb | Polish. |
| 17:49:51 | pinkutank | .. |
| 17:50:01 | pinkutank | i dont have polish here |
| 17:50:16 | pinkutank | and most polish stuff kills |
| 17:50:20 | pinkutank | translucent stuff |
| 17:50:25 | pinkutank | sucha s my ihp120 screen |
| 17:50:33 | pinkutank | toothbrush normally works |
| 17:50:37 | preglow | hahah |
| 17:50:41 | pinkutank | but colgate has fine granules i guess |
| 17:50:45 | preglow | polish isn't ok but toothbrush doesn't? |
| 17:50:48 | pinkutank | ii meant toothpaste |
| 17:50:50 | preglow | s/doesn't/is/ |
| 17:51:02 | preglow | toothpaste doesn't polish, it fills cracks |
| 17:51:03 | pinkutank | not brush |
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| 17:51:08 | Wett | got to restart, brb |
| 17:51:13 | pinkutank | not fill |
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| 17:51:21 | pinkutank | it works like |
| 17:51:21 | preglow | i would have thought it actually made scratches as well |
| 17:51:24 | pinkutank | fine sanding material |
| 17:51:36 | pinkutank | noo its too fine to be making scratches |
| 17:51:49 | pinkutank | actually ih ave some car polish |
| 17:51:53 | pinkutank | I wonder :) |
| 17:52:42 | pinkutank | lets see |
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| 18:03:05 | pinkutank | i think it works |
| 18:03:12 | pinkutank | but need a secnd step for swirls |
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| 18:06:59 | * | Cassandra notices the topic. I like. |
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| 18:11:09 | preglow | reading ipl source code is such a bliss, it's almost exclusively pure numerical values |
| 18:11:27 | Philip_0729 | i must remember to stop rushing with all of the excitment |
| 18:11:40 | linuxstb | preglow: Yep. I think we need to try and give names to some of those numbers. |
| 18:11:45 | Philip_0729 | i think my problem was some corrupted files |
| 18:11:58 | sanitarium | did you brick your player? |
| 18:12:04 | Philip_0729 | from not safly disconecting :) |
| 18:13:04 | preglow | linuxstb: might as well eliminate all use of inl and outl while we're at it |
| 18:13:08 | Philip_0729 | and had to format the drive :( but seems to be working fine now |
| 18:13:35 | linuxstb | preglow: Agreed. |
| 18:14:11 | Philip_0729 | san: came close |
| 18:14:29 | sanitarium | :0 |
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| 18:15:19 | Philip_0729 | the problem luckily was with files not the flash data |
| 18:15:29 | Philip_0729 | i count myself as very lucky |
| 18:16:38 | Philip_0729 | the only thing i have permenantly lost and will have to make again is the autorun script i had to display a small H300 icon when i plug it into my pc |
| 18:17:32 | webguest56 | Just installed rockbox / v1.28EU on my H340, seems to work, allthough I had to reset once, can safely boot back into original iriver firmware. |
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| 18:18:57 | sanitarium | cant wait for the audio to be supported |
| 18:18:57 | sanitarium | :D |
| 18:19:51 | Philip_0729 | me neither |
| 18:20:22 | Philip_0729 | then i can start working on full colour wps's |
| 18:22:38 | sanitarium | yeah |
| 18:22:39 | sanitarium | :D |
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| 18:25:41 | Philip_0729 | do you know if anyone has tried patching an already modified version of the iriver firmware??? |
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| 18:29:36 | pinkutank | llool i polished my h120 with car polish paste |
| 18:29:57 | pinkutank | correctiopn |
| 18:30:05 | pinkutank | the screen of my h120 |
| 18:30:38 | Slasheri | Philip_0729: what do you mean with modified version? |
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| 18:31:21 | Philip_0729 | skinned |
| 18:31:28 | Philip_0729 | with H3mod |
| 18:31:44 | Slasheri | that should work. At least for H1xx-firmware it's no problem |
| 18:31:45 | San | roockbox? |
| 18:32:09 | Philip_0729 | cool but i'll let someone else try it first ;) |
| 18:32:16 | Slasheri | worst case would be that it will render the iriver fw unbootable but bootloader should always function |
| 18:32:50 | Philip_0729 | but bootloader USB mode is not implemented yet i think?? |
| 18:33:01 | Philip_0729 | so i'll still be stuck |
| 18:33:38 | Slasheri | ah, better not to try then |
| 18:33:48 | Philip_0729 | yeh |
| 18:33:50 | Philip_0729 | :) |
| 18:35:11 | Philip_0729 | i'm still coping all my files back to my iriver :) |
| 18:35:21 | San | :P |
| 18:38:54 | San | oh, yeah, does rockboy work on the H300? |
| 18:39:26 | Philip_0729 | i havn't tried that yet, what filetype does it use?? |
| 18:39:38 | San | rockboy? |
| 18:39:46 | San | a gameboy rom I think |
| 18:40:41 | Philip_0729 | what is the extention?? .rom?? |
| 18:40:51 | Maxime | .gb |
| 18:40:53 | Subterranean | gb or gba i think it uses |
| 18:41:00 | Maxime | or gbc |
| 18:41:06 | Maxime | not gba |
| 18:42:24 | San | where do you get them |
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| 18:42:36 | San | and do plugins for the H100 work on the H300? |
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| 18:44:36 | pinkutank | gb and gbc for rockboy |
| 18:45:23 | | Join OPP [0] (i=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 18:45:25 | OPP | hello |
| 18:45:32 | San | hey |
| 18:45:35 | OPP | i hear you got rockbox for h300 |
| 18:45:43 | OPP | is there a way i can get that? |
| 18:45:48 | Philip_0729 | Can i put the files anywhere on the drive or is there a specific location?? |
| 18:46:14 | Philip_0729 | yep we all love LinusN |
| 18:46:32 | San | where do I download rockboy? |
| 18:46:49 | Wett | it's a plugin, don't need to download it |
| 18:46:51 | Philip_0729 | its on there already |
| 18:46:56 | San | ah |
| 18:46:57 | pinkutank | its already on |
| 18:47:04 | pinkutank | you need to maker the palyer show all files |
| 18:47:11 | Philip_0729 | k |
| 18:47:11 | pinkutank | and start a gb game as if you were loading a song |
| 18:47:12 | San | i have that |
| 18:47:17 | San | sooo, where do I get the roms? |
| 18:47:29 | Philip_0729 | emule, bearshare, any warez |
| 18:47:35 | San | aaahh |
| 18:47:36 | San | oh |
| 18:47:38 | Philip_0729 | :p |
| 18:47:47 | OPP | where can i get the h3xx bootloader |
| 18:48:21 | San | you guys have so much patience, if it was me I would have pulled a freaker on me already for asking so many questions |
| 18:48:22 | San | :P |
| 18:48:30 | San | OPP, i forget, sorry |
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| 18:49:07 | Philip_0729 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 18:49:12 | Philip_0729 | ^^ OPP |
| 18:49:13 | San | yeah |
| 18:49:26 | San | you need the FWpatcher.exe and iriver 1.28 Firmware |
| 18:50:10 | OPP | and bootloader-h300v1? |
| 18:50:44 | Philip_0729 | that is fwpatcher |
| 18:51:00 | linuxstb | OPP: No, fwpatcher includes the bootloader.bin files. |
| 18:51:06 | OPP | o |
| 18:51:06 | OPP | ok |
| 18:51:14 | Mark__ | anything new for the h1xx in v6? |
| 18:51:19 | Philip_0729 | double click fw patcher and browse to the H300.hex |
| 18:51:27 | linuxstb | The .bin files are only if you want to patch your firmware manually. |
| 18:51:39 | Philip_0729 | linuxstb: sry should have been more specific |
| 18:51:42 | San | can someone please send me 1 game to try out cause I am downloading a folder 1.50GB full of them ATM and it will take a while |
| 18:51:44 | San | :| |
| 18:51:55 | Philip_0729 | 1.5GB!!!! |
| 18:51:58 | San | yes |
| 18:51:58 | San | lol |
| 18:52:01 | San | torrent |
| 18:52:11 | Philip_0729 | they are like 1 MB ech |
| 18:52:14 | San | hehe |
| 18:52:15 | Philip_0729 | *each |
| 18:52:28 | Philip_0729 | thats 1500 roms :o |
| 18:52:35 | Subterranean | San: i just tried one rom i had lying around and it didnt work |
| 18:52:37 | San | just search game boy roms on torrentspy |
| 18:52:49 | San | oh, so they dont work ? |
| 18:52:54 | OPP | make sure you didnt get game boy advance |
| 18:52:55 | Philip_0729 | i am downloading some random ones |
| 18:52:56 | Mark__ | theres free public domain ones on zophar.net |
| 18:52:56 | OPP | or color |
| 18:53:00 | Subterranean | it just skipped it and started playing the music file after it |
| 18:53:13 | San | oh |
| 18:53:14 | Subterranean | might be a bad rom tho, could try another |
| 18:53:23 | San | philip, where are you downloading them? |
| 18:53:29 | linuxstb | Subterranean: What was the filename of your rom? |
| 18:54:06 | Subterranean | it was a .gbc, but it had ( and [ characters in it, are certain characters bad? |
| 18:54:44 | linuxstb | No, I don't think so. I was just checking it had either ".gb" or ".gbc" as the extension. |
| 18:54:45 | Drumrboy247 | i would make it a simple as possible... lika make it gbcrom.gbc |
| 18:54:51 | Drumrboy247 | as to not make a file name a problem |
| 18:55:16 | San | can the games be in color? |
| 18:55:19 | San | no? |
| 18:55:32 | Philip_0729 | its started what are the controls??? |
| 18:55:37 | Drumrboy247 | answered your own question |
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| 18:55:48 | San | lol |
| 18:55:51 | San | philip, they work? |
| 18:55:53 | Ancelot | Badger? |
| 18:55:59 | linuxstb | I think the person who wrote rockboy stripped out the colour handling code when optimising it for the H1x0. So that needs to be restored. |
| 18:56:07 | Philip_0729 | well they run but no movement???????? |
| 18:56:11 | San | ah, ok, no problems then |
| 18:56:24 | San | will you send that rom to me please on MSN |
| 18:56:34 | Drumrboy247 | will we ever get DOOM? |
| 18:56:35 | Philip_0729 | k |
| 18:56:43 | Mark__ | doom, sure |
| 18:56:43 | Ancelot | yes, we will be doomed |
| 18:56:45 | Ancelot | dont worry |
| 18:56:50 | San | ooooh, a doom rom |
| 18:56:53 | Mark__ | theres an ipod linux port that we can nick :) |
| 18:56:54 | * | San searches |
| 18:56:54 | Philip_0729 | god i want DOOM so much i have been playing it since i was 4 |
| 18:56:56 | Drumrboy247 | i cant wait for that day! |
| 18:57:11 | Mark__ | Philip_0729, you must be young! |
| 18:57:17 | Ancelot | no |
| 18:57:19 | Ancelot | he has a time machine |
| 18:57:23 | Mark__ | ooh |
| 18:57:24 | Mark__ | gimmie |
| 18:57:30 | Ancelot | d'oh |
| 18:57:40 | Ancelot | you are out of date pal |
| 18:57:51 | Mark__ | :9 |
| 18:57:51 | Ancelot | www.timetravel.com |
| 18:58:00 | Drumrboy247 | ive been playin doom since i was five/six |
| 18:58:06 | Mark__ | Sponsored Links! |
| 18:58:10 | Drumrboy247 | w00t w00t |
| 18:58:12 | wubbla | wow! so the h300 bootloader really seems to work... how many people in this channel are already running rockbox on their H300? |
| 18:58:13 | San | phillip, get on MSN right NOW! |
| 18:58:13 | San | :P |
| 18:58:14 | Ancelot | :/ |
| 18:58:29 | Ancelot | wubbla |
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| 18:58:38 | Drumrboy247 | i am not :( im not willing to loose reliable MP3 playback and video yet |
| 18:58:42 | Ancelot | listen, there's no point in doing it |
| 18:58:48 | Subterranean | just tried tetris and it half worked, think its crashed at the loading screen tho |
| 18:58:55 | Subterranean | as in the gameboy rom of tetris |
| 18:58:56 | Drumrboy247 | if i get an iPod, i will go for it though |
| 18:58:58 | Ancelot | does the firmware play music? |
| 18:59:04 | Ancelot | no |
| 18:59:11 | Ancelot | so why patching it? |
| 18:59:20 | Mark__ | for rockboy! |
| 18:59:21 | Mark__ | XD |
| 18:59:23 | Ancelot | you have an mp3 player for linus' sake! |
| 18:59:28 | Mark__ | (h140 user) |
| 18:59:44 | Ancelot | bleh, you outta league |
| 18:59:45 | wubbla | Ancelot: that's a good point :) |
| 18:59:58 | Ancelot | well you see, that's the whole point |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:08 | Ancelot | brb, ima switch to irc |
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| 19:00:33 | Drumrboy247 | can mirc connect to more than one server? |
| 19:00:38 | San | yes |
| 19:00:51 | San | type /server -m *server address* |
| 19:00:55 | Drumrboy247 | i think i'v been through this already lol |
| 19:01:01 | Drumrboy247 | ok, awesome |
| 19:01:11 | Subterranean | hmm, gameboy tetris runs, its a bit slow though |
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| 19:02:00 | Philip_0729 | mario runs way tooooo sloooowly |
| 19:02:02 | | Join Ancelot [0] (i=Ancelot@OL42-52.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 19:02:09 | Ancelot | im back |
| 19:02:22 | Drumrboy247 | haha, i have marion on my TI-89 titanium, and it works amazingly well |
| 19:02:30 | Drumrboy247 | mario on * |
| 19:02:48 | pinkutank | which mario tho |
| 19:02:50 | Ancelot | i don't think mario could ever fit a DAP |
| 19:02:52 | Maxime | ti89 is a great machine :p |
| 19:02:52 | pinkutank | its not the gameboy emulator |
| 19:02:57 | pinkutank | it is a different mario |
| 19:02:59 | Maxime | rockbox for ti89? :p |
| 19:03:05 | pinkutank | i run it on my ti83+ |
| 19:03:12 | Ancelot | so is not mario |
| 19:03:15 | Drumrboy247 | Max: thank you... do you have one? |
| 19:03:15 | wubbla | Ancelot: but LinusN would be quite lucky when he realizes that he's got that much beta-testers :-) |
| 19:03:21 | Ancelot | is like... Piero? |
| 19:03:27 | wubbla | Ancelot: don't you think so? ;-) |
| 19:03:35 | Drumrboy247 | cause i cant figure out how to do simple math stuff, and i need to know how to do graphs |
| 19:03:40 | Maxime | Drumrboy247: i have a ti89 yes |
| 19:04:00 | Ancelot | wubbla mmm not quite, imagine if he released a version taht'd brick all the DAPS |
| 19:04:08 | | Nick Maxime is now known as Maxime` (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) |
| 19:04:41 | wubbla | Ancelot: did he? |
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| 19:04:48 | Philip_0729 | its a good thing i'm sitting next to a draw full of paperclips |
| 19:04:49 | Ancelot | wubbla he migh |
| 19:04:52 | Ancelot | might |
| 19:04:55 | Maxime` | Drumrboy247: you want to know sth about it? |
| 19:05:09 | Ancelot | wubbla, remember it's alpha version |
| 19:05:24 | Acksaw | im using a blunt wire holder pin to reset mine =] |
| 19:05:35 | wubbla | Ancelot: you were testing it too? |
| 19:05:44 | San | i am using nail sicsors |
| 19:06:01 | Drumrboy247 | ummm Maxime, yes i would like to know just how to stupid simpe stuff with it |
| 19:06:08 | Maxime` | like? |
| 19:06:16 | Drumrboy247 | division? |
| 19:06:26 | Drumrboy247 | it only spits out the equation |
| 19:06:27 | Ancelot | wubbla not a chance, i paid 550 freakin dollars |
| 19:06:37 | Maxime` | ah |
| 19:06:43 | wubbla | Ancelot: 550$?!?! |
| 19:06:46 | Ancelot | i wont waste them by gettin impatient and all excited |
| 19:06:47 | Maxime` | if you want the "approx" value, type "diamond" and enter |
| 19:06:49 | wubbla | Ancelot: for a H320? |
| 19:06:59 | Ancelot | wubbla yes, teamdigital (singapore) h340 |
| 19:07:02 | wubbla | H340 i assume |
| 19:07:14 | Ancelot | and i got my remote from mistic audio |
| 19:07:14 | Drumrboy247 | ok, i will try that |
| 19:07:22 | Ancelot | so i paid 60 extra |
| 19:07:27 | Ancelot | that makes like 610 |
| 19:07:43 | wubbla | Ancelot: hmm.... 550$ = ?eur |
| 19:08:00 | Ancelot | so NO, i wont try it out unless it has an insure policy from linus that he will bring me aussie cheese fries |
| 19:08:06 | Ancelot | 550 american, euro i dunno |
| 19:08:09 | Philip_0729 | does the h300 charge under rockbox yet?? |
| 19:08:42 | Subterranean | mine seemed to |
| 19:09:04 | Subterranean | in that when i plugged the charger in, the battery icon showed it was charging |
| 19:09:09 | wubbla | Ancelot: you're talking about AUD, right? |
| 19:10:46 | San | MARIO LAND WORKS |
| 19:10:48 | San | I AM PLAYing it |
| 19:10:54 | San | *sorry bout the caps* |
| 19:10:59 | San | :P |
| 19:11:07 | Philip_0729 | how slowly :D |
| 19:11:09 | Ancelot | wubbla AUD? |
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| 19:11:14 | Maxime` | Drumrboy247: u tried? |
| 19:11:22 | mordov | and will holding B be a problem ;) |
| 19:11:22 | Philip_0729 | i am playing pokemon red....... |
| 19:11:22 | Ancelot | yeah, that's something i'd like to know, how fast can u play |
| 19:11:33 | wubbla | Ancelot: australian dollars |
| 19:11:44 | mordov | tetris was sudenly easy;) |
| 19:11:46 | Ancelot | oh no my dear wubbla |
| 19:11:51 | Ancelot | American dollars |
| 19:11:55 | wubbla | Ancelot: USD?! |
| 19:11:59 | Philip_0729 | the main problem is the buttons i think the start sequence of Pokemon red seemed to run ok |
| 19:12:01 | Ancelot | yep yep |
| 19:12:07 | Ancelot | lotsa washingtons |
| 19:12:17 | tucoz | Bagder: If you are around, TexNoel in the wiki is a spammer |
| 19:12:19 | wubbla | Ancelot: wow! now that would be ~470EUR! |
| 19:12:32 | Drumrboy247 | Max: yes it worked... thank you! |
| 19:12:37 | San | it is pretty slow though |
| 19:12:39 | Ancelot | a big number |
| 19:12:43 | Philip_0729 | got to go and eat, i'll be back |
| 19:12:44 | Ancelot | San how slow? |
| 19:12:45 | wubbla | Ancelot: indeed :) |
| 19:12:48 | San | not too bad |
| 19:13:06 | Ancelot | San blah, i will feel like i'm on dope the whole time |
| 19:13:24 | San | lol |
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| 19:15:02 | Acksaw | can anyone help me get some mario goodness on my h320 |
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| 19:15:26 | Drumrboy247 | well, i guess you cant find a ROM fo rit? |
| 19:16:33 | Ancelot | watch for Noel_sad_song, he's a spammer |
| 19:16:41 | * | HCl yawns |
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| 19:20:20 | San | http://www.diabolikal.org/hosted/Mario%20Land.gb |
| 19:20:27 | San | that is the game I was playing |
| 19:20:31 | San | that works |
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| 19:21:32 | amiconn | LinusN: (if you read the logs) Imho it's not a good idea to apply the same scroll settings to main & remote. The LCDs have very different delays, and with different fonts different scroll settings are imho mandatory |
| 19:21:56 | amiconn | I intended to add that, after finishing the backlight settings |
| 19:22:58 | Acksaw | oh no.. |
| 19:23:07 | Acksaw | im getting stuck on the rockbox logo thing |
| 19:23:16 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: i have already a patch for additional settings |
| 19:23:20 | _FireFly_ | for the remote |
| 19:24:01 | Ancelot | im off for some afternoob pool diving |
| 19:24:03 | Ancelot | laters |
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| 19:24:06 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1362248&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 19:24:13 | Acksaw | i think its broken |
| 19:24:23 | Acksaw | it wont load up |
| 19:24:28 | Acksaw | anyone ? |
| 19:24:36 | linuxstb | Acksaw: That logo is displayed by Rockbox itself, not the bootloader. So it should be easily fixed by re-installing. |
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| 19:24:58 | Acksaw | i see |
| 19:25:51 | Acksaw | so just |
| 19:25:57 | Acksaw | open fwpatcher and redo the firmware? |
| 19:26:19 | San | do gameboy advanced roms work? |
| 19:26:22 | _FireFly_ | Acksaw: only the firmware |
| 19:26:30 | Acksaw | ? |
| 19:26:34 | _FireFly_ | Acksaw: not the bootloader |
| 19:26:38 | San | (.gba) |
| 19:26:39 | Acksaw | i dont understand |
| 19:26:46 | tucoz | Acksaw, I think you can just try to unzip the rockbox.zip to the player |
| 19:26:50 | tucoz | not reflash it |
| 19:26:59 | Acksaw | the files are already there |
| 19:27:18 | tucoz | Yes, but the bootloader hasn't changed since you flashed it |
| 19:27:33 | Acksaw | so delete the rockbox files |
| 19:27:37 | Acksaw | leave the hex |
| 19:27:45 | Acksaw | and unzip the rockbox.zip again? |
| 19:27:52 | tucoz | But maybe the files have. Remember, rockbox for the h3x0 series is in a early state |
| 19:27:52 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 19:28:19 | Acksaw | is linus here? |
| 19:29:20 | Acksaw | i can load iriver firmware still |
| 19:29:43 | Acksaw | the bootloader seems fine |
| 19:29:54 | Acksaw | after it says all that stuff i just gets stuck |
| 19:30:00 | Acksaw | i can shut down |
| 19:30:04 | drumrboy320 | so then replace the rockbox files |
| 19:30:08 | drumrboy320 | ;) |
| 19:30:17 | _FireFly_ | Acksaw: the rockbox-logo isn't displayed from the bootloader |
| 19:30:19 | Acksaw | the ones that were inside the zip? |
| 19:30:37 | _FireFly_ | it's displayed from the firmware |
| 19:30:43 | Acksaw | ? |
| 19:30:50 | tucoz | delete the .rockbox folder, and also the rockbox.iriver file |
| 19:30:54 | Acksaw | ok |
| 19:31:13 | tucoz | unzip the rockbox.zip (which contains the .rockbox-folder, and the rockbox.iriver file) |
| 19:31:14 | Acksaw | and reextract? |
| 19:31:19 | tucoz | yes |
| 19:31:22 | Acksaw | ok |
| 19:31:29 | Acksaw | have you a link? |
| 19:32:03 | tucoz | Rockbox _IS_ the rockbox.iriver file. The bootloader is just loading that file instead of the original firmware. Get it? |
| 19:32:10 | Acksaw | yes |
| 19:32:12 | Acksaw | i just need the files |
| 19:32:16 | Acksaw | i can't find them |
| 19:32:38 | tucoz | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 19:32:42 | Acksaw | thanks |
| 19:34:32 | Acksaw | ok |
| 19:34:33 | Acksaw | lets try agian |
| 19:34:49 | tucoz | hopefully, it works. :) |
| 19:35:07 | Acksaw | hoepfully |
| 19:35:17 | Acksaw | error accessing playlist file or something |
| 19:35:19 | Acksaw | but it worked |
| 19:35:41 | Acksaw | error accessing playlist control file |
| 19:36:01 | tucoz | hmm, I do not know why you get that. Try and reset you settings |
| 19:36:17 | Acksaw | how? |
| 19:36:43 | tucoz | You have probably some settings stored in the settings sector on the harddisk that controls that kind of stuff |
| 19:37:08 | Acksaw | any ideas what they would be callled? |
| 19:37:37 | San | has anyone got more roms? |
| 19:38:03 | Subterranean | try searching google, you can usually find some |
| 19:38:13 | linuxstb | Acksaw: Go to the main menu, then Manage Settings, then Reset Settings |
| 19:38:19 | Acksaw | cheers |
| 19:38:22 | linuxstb | And stop trying to play back audio files :) |
| 19:38:36 | tucoz | Acksaw, a-b->manage settings->reset |
| 19:38:41 | tucoz | (or something like that) |
| 19:38:42 | Acksaw | done |
| 19:38:53 | Acksaw | ok |
| 19:38:56 | Acksaw | ill try again |
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| 19:39:08 | Acksaw | no error =] |
| 19:39:09 | Acksaw | worked |
| 19:39:21 | Acksaw | ok im on a rom |
| 19:39:23 | Acksaw | but no controls work |
| 19:39:48 | Philip_0729 | i'm downloading some .gba roms to chech if they work |
| 19:39:55 | Philip_0729 | *check |
| 19:39:57 | Acksaw | apart from a-b which takes me to menu but i cant do anything on that |
| 19:40:05 | Acksaw | phillip, i can't control anything on mine |
| 19:40:38 | linuxstb | Acksaw: Have you read the instructions? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginRockboy |
| 19:40:40 | Acksaw | neither can San |
| 19:40:48 | Acksaw | never saw that |
| 19:40:49 | Acksaw | ill read now |
| 19:40:51 | tucoz | I think the playlist control file is a part of the .rockbox directory in the .zip, but I am not 100% sure. Easy to find out though. |
| 19:40:51 | tucoz | It could also be something that is generated by rockbox. Not sure |
| 19:41:04 | Acksaw | tucoz |
| 19:41:10 | Philip_0729 | try long button presses, i think play and record are a and b (from gameboy controler) a-b button takes to menu which doesn't work and i have to reset mt H300 :( |
| 19:41:30 | Acksaw | i remember it now.. it was generated when i tried playing music |
| 19:41:31 | DreamTactix291 | <tucoz> I think the playlist control file is a part of the .rockbox directory in the .zip, but I am not 100% sure. Easy to find out though. <−− it is on the H1xx so i'll assume it's the same |
| 19:42:12 | tucoz | it is probably the latter that is correct |
| 19:43:03 | Acksaw | rom's don't work currently.. |
| 19:43:20 | Philip_0729 | not properly no |
| 19:43:27 | Acksaw | you can't press anything |
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| 19:44:06 | Acksaw | so basically it doesnt work |
| 19:44:12 | Philip_0729 | no |
| 19:45:01 | Acksaw | why not? |
| 19:45:24 | Philip_0729 | no movement controls work |
| 19:45:43 | Acksaw | no controls at all work |
| 19:45:50 | Acksaw | you have to reset to get outta it |
| 19:45:51 | drumrboy320 | ot cant be hard to mao comtrols can it? |
| 19:45:53 | Acksaw | a-b works |
| 19:45:55 | Acksaw | thats it |
| 19:46:04 | Philip_0729 | I just tried to patch a modified iriver .hex file, failed unrecognised firmware |
| 19:46:04 | drumrboy320 | map out controls* |
| 19:46:22 | * | Kyl3 wants rockbox to play music!! |
| 19:46:37 | crwl | urgh |
| 19:46:48 | DreamTactix291 | it'll be a while Kyl3 :P |
| 19:46:48 | Philip_0729 | :) |
| 19:46:55 | DreamTactix291 | but once it does it's nice |
| 19:46:58 | Philip_0729 | me too.... |
| 19:47:23 | drumrboy320 | if you install rockbox, you can still have all of teh functionality of the orig firmware when you boot to it, and rockbox when you dont? |
| 19:47:44 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 19:47:50 | drumrboy320 | should i do it? |
| 19:48:01 | drumrboy320 | im willing, cept it does seem rather risky now |
| 19:48:17 | Acksaw | http://www.rom-world.com/dl.php?name=Gameboy |
| 19:48:48 | drumrboy320 | does it have a chance to brick even with no fiddiling around with the firmware? |
| 19:50:55 | ghode|afk | DreamTactix291: there really is no point installing it now, unless you are planning to develop code for it |
| 19:50:58 | DreamTactix291 | of course there is a chance. there's always a chance |
| 19:51:07 | ghode|afk | err sorry |
| 19:51:07 | DreamTactix291 | DreamTactix291: i know, but i'm not an H3xx user :) |
| 19:51:10 | DreamTactix291 | H140 here |
| 19:51:15 | ghode|afk | meant drumrboy320 :) |
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| 19:56:08 | Acksaw | can rockboy play sega master games? |
| 19:58:24 | novimon | lol |
| 19:58:36 | novimon | dunno why I said lol |
| 19:58:42 | novimon | please disregard it |
| 19:58:47 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: ?? |
| 19:59:41 | Acksaw | anyone know if rockboy can play .gbc ? |
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| 20:00:19 | Maxime` | yes it can |
| 20:00:58 | Acksaw | WOO |
| 20:00:59 | Acksaw | sonic 7 |
| 20:01:02 | | Quit Subterranean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 20:01:04 | Acksaw | in VERY slow and no keys |
| 20:01:26 | novimon | but it can :P |
| 20:01:53 | Philip_0729 | :D |
| 20:02:06 | Philip_0729 | like all the others then? |
| 20:02:15 | Acksaw | dunno, its still loading ! |
| 20:02:15 | Acksaw | lol |
| 20:02:18 | Acksaw | very very very slow |
| 20:05:22 | Noel_sad_song | Hey ppl, mind If I ask a simple question? |
| 20:05:31 | Maxime` | go on |
| 20:05:41 | Noel_sad_song | Is there any way I can avoid all the settings from being reseted every time I download a build to my player? |
| 20:07:14 | Acksaw | ok |
| 20:07:16 | Acksaw | MARIO! |
| 20:07:19 | Acksaw | record = start |
| 20:07:23 | Acksaw | a-b = menu |
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| 20:07:30 | Acksaw | off = jump |
| 20:07:44 | Philip_0729 | can you move?? |
| 20:07:48 | linuxstb | Noel_sad_song: You need to save your settings to a file (see the Manage Settings) option. You can then select that file from the browser to restore them after installing a new version of Rockbox. |
| 20:08:13 | Acksaw | nope |
| 20:08:15 | Acksaw | no movement yet |
| 20:08:17 | linuxstb | Noel_sad_song: But not every new version of Rockbox resets the settings, it's only done occasionally. Normally it keeps them. |
| 20:08:22 | Acksaw | linux |
| 20:08:24 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 20:08:33 | Acksaw | is there anyway that we can map the keys so we can play rockboy? |
| 20:08:35 | DreamTactix291 | just make a config file for when that happens like i do |
| 20:09:03 | Acksaw | ? |
| 20:09:44 | Noel_sad_song | maybe I'm not doing it properly... I thought about saving the config but it woulnd't work If I replace it afterwords.... |
| 20:09:58 | Acksaw | linux? |
| 20:10:02 | Noel_sad_song | thanks.... I'll do that |
| 20:12:29 | Acksaw | any coders here? |
| 20:12:40 | Noel_sad_song | ok, last one... What are the odds of Rockbox getting wma support? |
| 20:12:59 | DreamTactix291 | when someone decides to code it :P |
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| 20:16:08 | Noel_sad_song | nobody's using wma right? what's the most used format? ogg? or just mp3? |
| 20:16:25 | _FireFly_ | ogg mp3 flac |
| 20:16:29 | _FireFly_ | mpc |
| 20:16:44 | Noel_sad_song | don't they lower the battery life a lot? |
| 20:17:08 | _FireFly_ | who lower the mattery life ?? |
| 20:17:20 | Acksaw | ogg does |
| 20:17:29 | _FireFly_ | who said that |
| 20:17:40 | Noel_sad_song | ogg for instance |
| 20:18:13 | Acksaw | who said it? |
| 20:18:16 | Acksaw | battery tests |
| 20:18:43 | Moos | no, the cpu usage ;-) |
| 20:18:56 | Moos | ogg files need more cpu |
| 20:19:12 | Moos | currently of course :) |
| 20:19:41 | _FireFly_ | could be but the sound-quality is a better (on same kbit) afaik |
| 20:20:02 | Acksaw | lol |
| 20:20:06 | Acksaw | the calc work good |
| 20:20:08 | Moos | sure, pesonnaly I like musepack sounds too |
| 20:21:11 | Moos | thanks to preglow for cpu usage discreasing ;) |
| 20:21:20 | Moos | for mpc files I mean |
| 20:21:53 | San | anyone going to be fixing up rockboy for the H300? There seems to be something wrong with the buttons |
| 20:22:18 | Acksaw | indeed |
| 20:22:24 | Acksaw | ive been asking |
| 20:22:32 | San | ah |
| 20:22:44 | San | i am playing, i meen watching, zelda |
| 20:22:45 | Moos | currently no developer working on it |
| 20:22:59 | Moos | need to find somone interresting by ;) |
| 20:23:06 | linuxstb | Also, not many (any?) developers with H3x0s |
| 20:23:13 | San | oh |
| 20:23:15 | Moos | indeed |
| 20:23:44 | linuxstb | But I'm sure fixing Rockboy for the H3x0 will be a got introduction to Rockbox for a new H3x0-owning developer. |
| 20:23:50 | linuxstb | s/got/good/ |
| 20:24:31 | Acksaw | how many developers with h100's? |
| 20:24:38 | Philip_0729 | i'd give it a go but have no idea what to do |
| 20:24:38 | linuxstb | Most of us. |
| 20:24:44 | Acksaw | cool |
| 20:24:46 | Moos | yes, the news gone fastly, h3xx dev will come for sure |
| 20:25:04 | Acksaw | what you mena |
| 20:27:06 | Moos | Rockbox port for H3xx will have echo in the H3xx world community and for sure that will make dev come here ;) |
| 20:27:29 | Moos | sorry for my english :) I'm french ;) |
| 20:27:58 | Moos | and h140 user |
| 20:28:15 | Moos | the best song player in the world :D |
| 20:28:24 | _FireFly_ | yeah :) |
| 20:28:43 | Noel_sad_song | hey, what are the major changes you guy have in mind for rockbox? |
| 20:30:25 | Moos | let's make the human creativity ;) |
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| 20:45:44 | bitmastro | we will rockbox be ready? |
| 20:45:45 | preglow | ahahah |
| 20:45:46 | preglow | excellent |
| 20:45:48 | bitmastro | only joking :-) |
| 20:45:52 | preglow | my ipod tells me to get support from apple |
| 20:46:01 | bitmastro | i'm here to greet some friends |
| 20:46:18 | _FireFly_ | preglow: :) |
| 20:46:21 | bitmastro | yo |
| 20:47:44 | Philip_0729 | acksaw have you got past level 3 on sokoban yet? |
| 20:49:24 | linuxstb | preglow: Your ipod's defence system is obviously rejecting Rockbox... |
| 20:49:34 | preglow | linuxstb: so it would seem |
| 20:49:44 | preglow | doesn't even get to the bootloader anymore |
| 20:50:39 | linuxstb | Have you tried restoring Apple's firmware? |
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| 20:51:14 | preglow | nah |
| 20:51:26 | preglow | it's still got a healthy partition table, so must be something funky i'm doing in the bootloader |
| 20:51:34 | DreamTactix291 | hey bitmastro |
| 20:51:41 | bitmastro | yo dt! |
| 20:51:46 | bitmastro | long time no see |
| 20:51:50 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 20:51:58 | preglow | ahhh, noi |
| 20:52:07 | preglow | my bootloader size has exceeded 100 bytes |
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| 20:52:20 | preglow | that's most certainly it |
| 20:52:40 | preglow | linuxstb: we can't do that either, right? |
| 20:53:03 | linuxstb | The bootloader is about 50KB... |
| 20:53:13 | preglow | yes, but before the boot table thing |
| 20:53:15 | linuxstb | But I remember that comment. Just a moment... |
| 20:53:26 | linuxstb | So you've added the interrupt code? |
| 20:54:09 | preglow | i'm trying... |
| 20:54:23 | preglow | i removed it now, and it still taunts me with the white "go get help" scree |
| 20:54:23 | preglow | n |
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| 21:04:42 | San | BITMASTRO! |
| 21:05:03 | bitmastro | san, you're crazy to run rockbox! |
| 21:05:09 | San | lol |
| 21:05:11 | bitmastro | :-D |
| 21:05:12 | DreamTactix291 | i run rockbox :P |
| 21:05:20 | bitmastro | dt on he h300? |
| 21:05:24 | DreamTactix291 | no :P |
| 21:05:39 | bitmastro | aaaah! I was tempted |
| 21:05:58 | DreamTactix291 | H140 here |
| 21:06:00 | bitmastro | but i've seen the time when the patcher was committed |
| 21:06:07 | bitmastro | and decided to wait :-D |
| 21:06:19 | Moos | linuxstb, preglow: could one of you increase the char lang limit please, french is too biggie |
| 21:06:22 | Moos | ? |
| 21:06:37 | Moos | currently 8000 char |
| 21:07:30 | linuxstb | Moos: I know nothing about the language code, so I wouldn't like to do it. |
| 21:07:50 | preglow | _french_ is too big? |
| 21:08:06 | Moos | french lang update I mean |
| 21:08:14 | preglow | i wouldn't have thought that language would be the first to grow too big |
| 21:08:30 | iobound | floating point is not supported on h300, right? |
| 21:08:37 | preglow | iobound: not directly, no |
| 21:08:40 | DreamTactix291 | no |
| 21:08:43 | DreamTactix291 | no FPU |
| 21:08:45 | iobound | are there any emulation libraries? |
| 21:08:49 | preglow | iobound: yes |
| 21:09:04 | preglow | iobound: gcc has emulation routines, but don't use them, they're incredibly slow |
| 21:09:05 | Moos | preglow: just with those 8000 char limit: new translation doesn't fit |
| 21:09:10 | iobound | ok |
| 21:09:16 | iobound | anything else? |
| 21:10:19 | linuxstb | Two rules for efficient codecs: avoid malloc (use static buffers) and avoid floating point. |
| 21:10:19 | preglow | iobound: anything else what? |
| 21:10:31 | iobound | any other floating point emulators beside the slow ones in gcc? |
| 21:10:33 | Moos | amiconn is maybe the one I need, amiconn:around? |
| 21:10:42 | preglow | iobound: it's not possible, floating point is a slow business in software |
| 21:10:45 | linuxstb | iobound: Why do you need floating point? |
| 21:11:17 | iobound | I downloaded a bunch of c46 emulators and found one which is pure .c, but it uses floats. |
| 21:11:23 | iobound | (for .sid playback) |
| 21:11:24 | preglow | then convert it |
| 21:11:32 | preglow | can't understand why it would need floats |
| 21:11:51 | linuxstb | C64s didn't have FPUs... |
| 21:11:52 | iobound | i'm guessing its for the waveform synthezising |
| 21:12:04 | iobound | and filtering things |
| 21:12:08 | preglow | iobound: waveform synthesizing is easy as pie with only integers |
| 21:12:16 | preglow | iobound: same with filtering, although it's a bit harder |
| 21:12:19 | preglow | resid has already done it |
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| 21:12:24 | iobound | ok, i just grepped for "float" and go a bunch of hits. |
| 21:12:37 | iobound | ..got a bunch.. |
| 21:13:55 | iobound | does anyone know what drains the most power, reading from the hard drive or running at 120mhz ? |
| 21:14:32 | DreamTactix291 | i'm guessing drive |
| 21:14:38 | linuxstb | There is a page on the wiki with power consumption measurements. I forget the URL though. |
| 21:14:55 | linuxstb | But almost certainly the drive. |
| 21:15:00 | iobound | ok, so with sids there's almost no need for HD access, so it should be possible to run for even more hours before recharing :) |
| 21:15:22 | iobound | unless one has to run at 120mhz constantly, i'm guessing the mp3 decoder doesn't do that? |
| 21:15:26 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBattery |
| 21:15:50 | iobound | ah ok thanks |
| 21:16:04 | preglow | linuxstb: got it back, seems i somehow messed up my mbr |
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| 21:16:24 | * | preglow blames cfdisk |
| 21:16:49 | linuxstb | If you need larger startup code, we will need to fix make_fw to change that 0x100 limit. I've no idea if that is easy or hard. |
| 21:18:07 | preglow | think i'll be fine |
| 21:18:19 | preglow | i'll just remove all the handlers and stuff behind the boot table |
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| 21:23:26 | Moos | Hello Limbus :) |
| 21:23:32 | lImbus | hi all |
| 21:23:49 | lImbus | how's thing Moos ? |
| 21:24:38 | preglow | hah |
| 21:26:28 | preglow | wow, i got rid of the nonsense characters |
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| 21:27:24 | linuxstb | preglow: How did you manage that? |
| 21:27:31 | preglow | god knows |
| 21:27:51 | preglow | something's wrong, though, if i try to write the exception vectors, it hangs at the splash |
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| 21:30:34 | pinkutank | I think I'll pick up a h340 |
| 21:30:42 | pinkutank | for 215$ |
| 21:31:01 | pinkutank | its physcially a little defective, missing the screen protector glass |
| 21:31:03 | pinkutank | but oh well |
| 21:31:26 | drumrboy320 | :/ get a broken h320 which'll be cheper |
| 21:31:30 | drumrboy320 | and replace the screen |
| 21:31:38 | drumrboy320 | the fronts are identical |
| 21:31:45 | preglow | 8fc: deadbeef cdple 14, 10, cr11, cr13, cr15, {7} |
| 21:31:48 | pinkutank | I'll try to pickup a front glass later on |
| 21:31:50 | pinkutank | from haku |
| 21:31:52 | preglow | not bad, arm can execute 0xdeadbeef |
| 21:31:53 | preglow | heh |
| 21:31:54 | pinkutank | or someone from mistricriver |
| 21:32:24 | linuxstb | Are you sure it's not 0xefbeadde ? |
| 21:32:26 | pinkutank | how much does the 20 gig drives go for around? |
| 21:32:58 | preglow | linuxstb: well, what makes you think that? it is a literal i use |
| 21:33:06 | linuxstb | Ignore me... |
| 21:35:51 | preglow | hrmm, strange |
| 21:36:08 | preglow | if i change to supervisor mode, the code works fine with my exception handlers |
| 21:37:35 | preglow | ok, now i'm puzzled |
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| 21:42:26 | pinkutank | does rb support any 5gb ish players now |
| 21:42:32 | pinkutank | apart from the nano that is |
| 21:42:56 | lImbus | maybe the ondio once there are 5gb-mmc-cards |
| 21:43:03 | pinkutank | :) |
| 21:43:12 | pinkutank | more recent stuff |
| 21:43:23 | pinkutank | how is the screen on the nano |
| 21:43:25 | pinkutank | small? |
| 21:43:29 | lImbus | no idea |
| 21:43:56 | lImbus | there was a mail today on the list that there is a stripped version of rockbox "running" on some iriver ifp-player |
| 21:44:07 | lImbus | maybe thats around 5gb |
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| 21:48:00 | pinkutank | ipod nano cant record right? even with rockbox :D |
| 21:48:07 | pinkutank | and doesnt have fm |
| 21:48:12 | pinkutank | why dont they put fm |
| 21:48:22 | pinkutank | in ipods |
| 21:48:26 | pinkutank | ill hardly know |
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| 21:49:12 | Coldtoast | hey |
| 21:49:29 | Coldtoast | can you use images for alternating sublines? |
| 21:49:31 | DreamTactix291 | pinkutank: maximum profits if they keep it stripped down |
| 21:50:09 | iobound | i'm a bit rusty at C.. where is the implementation of the malloc() defined in firmware/include/malloc.h ? |
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| 21:51:48 | linuxstb | iobound: It's this line: extern _PTR malloc _PARAMS ((size_t)); |
| 21:51:58 | linuxstb | But it uses some strange macros, which is why you don't recognise it. |
| 21:52:28 | iobound | linuxstb, that's just the declaration (?), but where's the actual code? I found in codec.h there's a #define malloc codec_malloc, is that it? |
| 21:52:30 | linuxstb | And malloc isn't implemented in Rockbox - I don't know why the .h file is there. |
| 21:52:42 | preglow | rockbox used to have a malloc |
| 21:52:48 | preglow | i think |
| 21:52:52 | linuxstb | The codecs have their own (very stupid) malloc in apps/codecs/lib/ |
| 21:52:53 | preglow | at least there is one in the cvs attic |
| 21:55:08 | iobound | ok, i saw a malloc() call in libmad's layer3.c, but I guess that works because it includes "global.h" in the same dir, which includes "codec.h" and thus redefines malloc to codec_malloc. |
| 21:55:28 | linuxstb | Exactly. |
| 21:55:36 | iobound | alright! |
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| 21:55:43 | linuxstb | But ideally we would like to remove all mallocs from the codecs. |
| 21:55:43 | pinkutank | Dreamtactix291: it shouldnt be profits as fm chipsets are hardly any money nowadays, and having an fm and an fmrecorder in them would increase sales by 10-15% given appropriate advertisement; resulting in more profit |
| 21:56:00 | iobound | yeah ok |
| 21:56:32 | DreamTactix291 | yeah but remember |
| 21:56:32 | linuxstb | But for a first attempt at a new codec, malloc is fine. Just remember that you only have 512KB of RAM available, and free doesn't do anything. |
| 21:56:40 | DreamTactix291 | ipod users buy them just to listen to music :P |
| 21:56:42 | iobound | also, there's a lot of malloc()s in codecs/dumb, but nothing there seems to include codec.h. I guess "make" doesn't throw any warnings because the .o files aren't actually linked or used for anything (yet)? |
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| 21:57:26 | Maxime` | [21:57] <DreamTactix291> ipod users buy them just to listen to music :P < ipod users buy them because of the "interface-that-even-a-dumbass-can-understand" and because everybody, every star got one ! |
| 21:59:11 | DreamTactix291 | lol |
| 21:59:13 | iobound | linuxstb, do you know if the h300 has more ram available? i think i saw 8mb mentioned somewhere. |
| 21:59:25 | DreamTactix291 | when i was hunting for a player i never considered an iPod lol |
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| 21:59:35 | Maxime` | neither do I |
| 21:59:35 | DreamTactix291 | it was between my original H120 and a Karma |
| 21:59:49 | Maxime` | and,I saw the price compared to iriver.. |
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| 22:00:07 | linuxstb | iobound: The h300 and h100 both have 32MB of RAM, but we limit the codec malloc to only 512KB of it. |
| 22:00:07 | Maxime` | the ipod was 100€ more expensive |
| 22:00:23 | linuxstb | iobound: And that's still far more than we would like to. |
| 22:00:31 | iobound | linuxstb, ok, why? for portability? |
| 22:00:47 | iobound | what about plugins? |
| 22:00:50 | linuxstb | For efficiency. Rockbox is designed to work without malloc for many reasons. |
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| 22:01:17 | iobound | ok, i can see the use for codecs at least, but it would be nice to have all that RAM available for a plugin :) |
| 22:01:26 | DreamTactix291 | well i've been very impressed with the efficiency :) |
| 22:01:30 | DreamTactix291 | i updated my bootloader last night |
| 22:01:38 | DreamTactix291 | which means booting into the iriver firmware |
| 22:01:46 | DreamTactix291 | i'd forgotten how slow that firmware was compartively |
| 22:01:53 | linuxstb | A codec already has about 512KB available to it for code and data. |
| 22:02:04 | linuxstb | Plus an extra 512KB it can use via malloc. |
| 22:02:18 | iobound | ok |
| 22:02:27 | iobound | and for plugins? |
| 22:02:30 | Maxime` | and.. technical question, what is "IRAM" mentioned 'everywher'? :x |
| 22:03:06 | DreamTactix291 | internal RAM |
| 22:03:07 | linuxstb | I forget the size of plugins, but plugins can also claim memory from the main audio buffer - assuming they stop playback. |
| 22:03:14 | DreamTactix291 | RAM built into the CPU AFACT |
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| 22:03:26 | Maxime` | that's what I thought, ok |
| 22:03:59 | iobound | linuxstb, ok, thanks for the info, i'll go back and read more source now :) |
| 22:04:18 | linuxstb | Are you working on a sid player as a plugin? |
| 22:04:21 | XavierGr | http://cgi.ebay.com/iRiver-PMC-120-Multimedia-MP3-Player-NEW_W0QQitemZ5832728501QQcategoryZ94930QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:04:26 | XavierGr | how is this possible? |
| 22:04:37 | XavierGr | only 35$ and 16 hours to go? |
| 22:04:45 | XavierGr | isnt is a fraud? |
| 22:04:59 | iobound | linuxstb, not really working on anything yet, just trying to figure out how hard it would be |
| 22:05:03 | DreamTactix291 | well i only paid $220 after everything for my PMP-120 |
| 22:05:06 | Maxime` | Shipping CostServices AvailableAvailable to |
| 22:05:07 | Maxime` | EUR 40.00EMS SDS CourierIreland Only |
| 22:05:40 | XavierGr | Will ship to N. and S. America, Europe, Australia. |
| 22:06:23 | XavierGr | I am confused! |
| 22:07:10 | XavierGr | even if the price gets up to 100$ after shipment it is still a great chance. But will he ship to Europe, or only Ireland? |
| 22:08:28 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
| 22:08:36 | DreamTactix291 | btw the cube looks cool in colour |
| 22:08:39 | DreamTactix291 | much cooler than on my H140 |
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| 22:25:40 | ghode|afk | <pinkutank> why dont they put fm - because then they wouldnt be able to charge £30+ for the addon :) |
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| 22:47:46 | pinkutank | oh |
| 22:47:47 | pinkutank | ghode |
| 22:47:51 | pinkutank | i totally forgot about that |
| 22:47:55 | pinkutank | yes youre right |
| 22:48:11 | pinkutank | + it is the most insificant why question |
| 22:48:23 | pinkutank | better one would be , why dont they make cars out of stainless steel |
| 22:48:33 | pinkutank | because theyd last double their liftime |
| 22:48:42 | pinkutank | for 250$ more |
| 22:48:51 | pinkutank | and they wouldnt bve able to sell spares |
| 22:48:59 | pinkutank | delorians were stainless |
| 22:49:15 | pinkutank | they were put out of business by other corps |
| 22:49:29 | DreamTactix291 | bbl |
| 22:49:29 | DreamTactix291 | food |
| 22:49:32 | DreamTactix291 | then jdrama |
| 22:49:52 | pinkutank | eh? |
| 22:49:58 | pinkutank | bbl food jdrama |
| 22:50:11 | DreamTactix291 | yeah i'm going to buy food then watch some stuff |
| 22:50:18 | pinkutank | oooo |
| 22:50:21 | pinkutank | lol |
| 22:50:21 | pinkutank | ok |
| 22:50:24 | Wett | japanese drama ? the best ;) |
| 22:50:27 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 22:50:29 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 22:50:31 | pinkutank | never watched jdrama |
| 22:50:35 | * | amiconn has a problem :/ |
| 22:50:42 | pinkutank | watched over 2000 edisodes of anime |
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| 22:50:55 | DreamTactix291 | i don't watch anime much anymore |
| 22:50:57 | * | pinkutank gives a hearthy hug to amiconn |
| 22:51:05 | amiconn | I want to cleanup the backlight handling - but the backlight macros are only defined for the targets |
| 22:51:07 | pinkutank | *there there* |
| 22:51:26 | amiconn | ...and undefined CONFIG_BACKLIGHT means no backlight (Ondio) |
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| 22:51:45 | San | I uploaded aload of pictures to Misticriver For YouGuys |
| 22:51:47 | San | :D |
| 22:52:05 | San | Mainly cause I was board |
| 22:52:09 | San | *bored |
| 22:53:00 | amiconn | linuxstb, Bagder, other devs: It seems the best way to handle this would be to split definitions like this in 2 parts, one general macro (HAVE_BACKLIGHT) always defined, and a hw specific part (CONFIG_BACKLIGHT) which is only defined for target |
| 22:53:23 | amiconn | Would make things easier, instead of adding more and more stubs. |
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| 22:53:44 | pinkutank | thats a good idea |
| 22:53:58 | pinkutank | lets leave the dinasour backlighting |
| 22:54:02 | amiconn | I think only backlight_on and backlight_off should be stubs, the rest would be always handled by firmware/backlight.c |
| 22:54:02 | pinkutank | and work our dusty asses |
| 22:54:08 | * | pinkutank prays not to be kicked |
| 22:54:16 | ep0ch| | Slasheri: are you reading? |
| 22:54:30 | linuxstb | amiconn: I was thinking the same thing earlier today about something else - higher-level defines to specify features, and lower-level defines for the implementation. |
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| 22:54:31 | amiconn | This would also allow to simulate backlight |
| 22:54:37 | pinkutank | do you guys found a way to open up the h300 series without killing clips |
| 22:54:53 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes. What specific part was that? |
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| 22:55:04 | linuxstb | It was the ipod button drivers. |
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| 22:55:30 | linuxstb | We may have different button hardware for different ipods, but apps/ shouldn't care. |
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| 22:55:54 | linuxstb | It's slightly different to the backlight example, but your comment reminded me of it. |
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| 22:56:07 | amiconn | Hmm. You mean the CONFIG_KEYPAD is the same, but the driver code is different? |
| 22:56:12 | San | [21:54] <pinkutank> do you guys found a way to open up the h300 series without killing clips <−−- Guitar Pict and run it between the joints, it works for me |
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| 22:56:39 | San | I was the first person to inskin and I still have all my clips except one |
| 22:56:47 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes. Possibly the H100 and H300 are like that - Linus uses the same button definitions for both. |
| 22:56:59 | amiconn | Yes, currently. |
| 22:57:15 | amiconn | It might be that some buttons will be remapped for better experience. |
| 22:57:34 | amiconn | The buttons itself are the same, but the layout is different |
| 22:57:38 | linuxstb | Yes, the H100 and H300 are physically different |
| 22:57:41 | amiconn | (physical layout) |
| 22:58:03 | amiconn | So on ipod there is that problem? |
| 22:59:07 | amiconn | If we want to do this split for multiple features, it might be helpful to use a consistent naming scheme |
| 22:59:32 | amiconn | ...that allows to see the category (feature/implementation) |
| 22:59:55 | linuxstb | I'm not familiar with all the ipods, but it would surprise me if we don't have two identical keypads (physically) with different drivers. |
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| 23:00:44 | amiconn | Well, if it's within one "family" (e.g. g1/g2/g3) it has to be handled at runtime anyway |
| 23:01:43 | linuxstb | True. |
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| 23:03:18 | linuxstb | But even if the ipod button drivers don't turn out to be different, I'm sure something else will. So I agree we should think of a consistent naming scheme. |
| 23:03:47 | amiconn | Hmm. A clean split may be difficult for some features. |
| 23:04:06 | linuxstb | We already have the LCD features split from the drivers - using LCD_WIDTH, LCD_HEIGHT etc |
| 23:04:32 | amiconn | I'm thinking about the audio codec, where the type dictates the available features and their ranges |
| 23:05:03 | amiconn | E.g. UDA1380 allows bass (0..+24), treble (0..6), balance, volume |
| 23:05:04 | Kyl3 | Is the "play dead" bug on the list of "bugs that must be fixed before relese" list? |
| 23:05:33 | amiconn | while MAS3587 allows bass (-12..12), treble (-12..12), balance, volume, loudness, mdb, ... |
| 23:06:19 | amiconn | If we want to split that, we would have to introduce a ton of new macros... |
| 23:06:21 | Kyl3 | Where is the "bugs that must be fixed before relese" list? |
| 23:06:41 | ep0ch| | what release |
| 23:06:49 | HCl | yea, what release |
| 23:06:57 | Kyl3 | of rockbox, for h300 |
| 23:07:07 | HCl | its not even released for h1xx yet |
| 23:07:29 | Kyl3 | i mean publically released |
| 23:07:44 | HCl | yes, rockbox isn't publically released for h1xx yet |
| 23:07:45 | HCl | o.o; |
| 23:08:58 | markun | HCl: some people are asking for color rockboy, is it difficult to do? |
| 23:09:01 | drumrboy320 | for the h300 would a multi band equilizer be posible? |
| 23:09:07 | markun | hi btw :) |
| 23:10:04 | HCl | markun: not difficult perse, probably slower |
| 23:10:13 | markun | drumrboy320: yes, it's possible. Preglow still plans to do so I think. |
| 23:10:16 | HCl | markun: i removed a lot of color-related code for speedups. |
| 23:10:29 | linuxstb | HCl: Do you know how much IRAM Rockboy is using? Plugins now have 48KB to play with. |
| 23:10:33 | HCl | markun: if one wanted to restore color support, you'd have to get the gnuboy1.0.3 sources, and re-add them |
| 23:10:41 | HCl | linuxstb: about 500k |
| 23:10:42 | markun | ok |
| 23:10:52 | DMJC | how much ram has h340 got? |
| 23:10:58 | DMJC | same 32 mb as the 100's? |
| 23:11:00 | drumrboy320 | Markun: awesome. |
| 23:11:03 | amiconn | HCl: iirc most of the colour code is just commented out, not cut |
| 23:11:15 | HCl | really? i remember removing it.. |
| 23:11:18 | amiconn | DMJC: Yes, same as h120+ |
| 23:11:30 | Kyl3 | Well, the "play dead" bug is the one described in http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883.0 <- that thread |
| 23:11:45 | San | nice name |
| 23:12:03 | amiconn | Btw, rockboy should run on h300, just in greyscale |
| 23:12:07 | linuxstb | HCl: I mean IRAM - the fast internal memory |
| 23:12:17 | Kyl3 | amiconn: it does |
| 23:12:31 | San | it doesn't |
| 23:12:34 | amiconn | (probably a bit slower than on h1x0, but certainly not much |
| 23:12:35 | San | the roms load |
| 23:12:38 | San | and then thats it |
| 23:12:41 | Kyl3 | but it crashes. and the controls are whacked |
| 23:12:43 | San | you have to reset it |
| 23:12:52 | San | check my post on MR for pictures |
| 23:12:55 | Kyl3 | yeah like... i can start Super Mario |
| 23:13:04 | Kyl3 | But I cant play it |
| 23:13:24 | DMJC | heh welcome to the H100 series heh |
| 23:13:25 | HCl | linuxstb: no idea |
| 23:13:32 | HCl | linuxstb: i moved a few speed things to iram |
| 23:13:38 | DMJC | unplayably low? |
| 23:13:39 | linuxstb | I think LinusN said the LCD updates were very slow at the moment on the H300. So maybe that's the bottleneck for the H300. |
| 23:13:43 | DMJC | or locks up? |
| 23:13:46 | amiconn | linuxstb: It's simple to find out the iram usage from the .map file |
| 23:13:55 | linuxstb | amiconn: I know, I'm compiling it now. |
| 23:14:00 | ep0ch| | i think today must be the longest irc log for a long time |
| 23:14:27 | drumrboy320 | watch, your gonna end up with a gig of text...lol |
| 23:15:00 | amiconn | linuxstb: A bit more than 21KB |
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| 23:15:15 | linuxstb | amiconn: So there's big gains to be made there. |
| 23:15:17 | HCl | i don't think the h3x0 could do playable gameboy color, without adding more speed optimizations to rckboy |
| 23:15:50 | * | amiconn points in HCl's direction and whispers "assembly core" ;) |
| 23:16:10 | * | linuxstb mentions 26KB of IRAM not being used... |
| 23:16:11 | HCl | yup |
| 23:16:18 | HCl | i'm not gonna write that core though |
| 23:16:22 | HCl | too busy already :/ |
| 23:16:28 | preglow | come on, think of the fun |
| 23:16:37 | HCl | xD |
| 23:16:47 | HCl | nah i'm already behind with school |
| 23:16:54 | linuxstb | Yes, an assembly core for the ARM. |
| 23:17:08 | HCl | arm/ |
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| 23:17:11 | HCl | ? |
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| 23:17:37 | linuxstb | The ipod port. |
| 23:18:00 | HCl | *shivers at the thought of writing multiple assembly cores for each target* |
| 23:18:16 | amiconn | SH1! |
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| 23:19:25 | linuxstb | HCl: Was the color code ever in CVS, or did you remove it before then? |
| 23:19:35 | HCl | hm. |
| 23:19:41 | HCl | i think i removed it before it got checked into cvs |
| 23:19:43 | amiconn | I think it was removed before |
| 23:19:55 | HCl | rockboy used to be a seperate development branch thing on my computer |
| 23:19:59 | HCl | it wasn't allowed in cvs at first, i think. |
| 23:20:01 | amiconn | (and iirc I was the one who checked it in) |
| 23:20:09 | HCl | because it ran on the target but not in the sim |
| 23:20:10 | HCl | :P |
| 23:20:29 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, and then you madly ported it to the SH1 |
| 23:20:38 | HCl | xD |
| 23:21:11 | amiconn | Well it's running. Playable? Not really. But it should be possible |
| 23:21:32 | amiconn | Gameboy is "just" a Z80 - at which clock speed? |
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| 23:22:11 | Kyl3 | But color IS possible, correct? |
| 23:22:23 | preglow | well, plus gfx engine |
| 23:22:29 | preglow | and i hope you remembered to disable sound rendering |
| 23:22:30 | preglow | heh |
| 23:22:35 | ep0ch| | 4.2 mhz |
| 23:23:02 | HCl | actually |
| 23:23:07 | HCl | the gfx engine still runs in color |
| 23:23:11 | amiconn | Hmm, and Z80 needs several cycles per instruction (4 cycles for the fastest) |
| 23:23:27 | HCl | gnuboys code is actually incapable of running as a normal gameboy, its color gameboy only |
| 23:23:43 | HCl | i just removed the palette code |
| 23:23:43 | amiconn | I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to emulate that on a 12MHz 32bit RISC CPU |
| 23:23:55 | amiconn | (whic single cycle instructions) |
| 23:24:14 | amiconn | s/whic/with/ |
| 23:25:18 | preglow | and i can't imagine why coldfire shouldn't be able to do it |
| 23:25:25 | preglow | should be able with lots to spare |
| 23:25:26 | amiconn | of course |
| 23:25:57 | preglow | but ok, back to interrupts |
| 23:26:05 | amiconn | I think gnuboy does some things in a very portable, but also very slow way |
| 23:26:07 | preglow | i need to enable an interrupt to see if i've got it working |
| 23:26:16 | pinkutank | damn rfockbox take all my time :P |
| 23:26:23 | pinkutank | i dont even know c |
| 23:26:29 | pinkutank | and im online 24/7 |
| 23:26:37 | pinkutank | its addictive |
| 23:26:43 | preglow | haha |
| 23:26:51 | pinkutank | compiling, wpsingi patching |
| 23:27:02 | pinkutank | and yapping nonsense |
| 23:27:11 | preglow | yapping nonsense i always fun |
| 23:27:14 | preglow | is, even |
| 23:27:20 | preglow | my favourite activity |
| 23:27:28 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 23:27:43 | pinkutank | yes |
| 23:27:48 | pinkutank | especially after 3 am |
| 23:27:53 | pinkutank | when it comes naturally |
| 23:30:13 | pinkutank | people start requesting dancing asian chicks for their wpss |
| 23:30:21 | pinkutank | if I was macho-mano |
| 23:30:27 | pinkutank | I would do it |
| 23:30:39 | pinkutank | but I'm against casual sex :D |
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| 23:30:57 | preglow | haha |
| 23:31:10 | preglow | they're not asking you to have sex with your player, just make a wps for it |
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| 23:31:25 | pinkutank | I can do a dancing hello kitty tho |
| 23:31:32 | pinkutank | :D |
| 23:31:41 | pinkutank | a pedophile zoophile combo |
| 23:31:48 | TiMiD | nooooo |
| 23:31:57 | TiMiD | I don't want a kitty ;) |
| 23:31:57 | pinkutank | lol Timid |
| 23:32:08 | pinkutank | ecchi |
| 23:32:12 | TiMiD | sukebei |
| 23:32:33 | pinkutank | tentacles special for you perhaps ? |
| 23:32:35 | pinkutank | :P |
| 23:32:41 | pinkutank | tentacles.wps |
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| 23:32:46 | pinkutank | :D |
| 23:32:52 | TiMiD | lol |
| 23:32:56 | TiMiD | no tentacules |
| 23:33:04 | TiMiD | I don't like animes hehe |
| 23:33:16 | pinkutank | hentai anime? or normal anime? |
| 23:33:28 | pinkutank | I dont like hentai anime |
| 23:33:29 | TiMiD | hentai animes |
| 23:33:34 | pinkutank | but I like normal animes |
| 23:33:36 | TiMiD | I don't watch them |
| 23:33:39 | pinkutank | actually more than like |
| 23:33:45 | pinkutank | watched 2000 episodes |
| 23:33:48 | TiMiD | I watch sometimes normal animes |
| 23:33:53 | pinkutank | read 1000 ep mangas |
| 23:34:19 | pinkutank | Im not a one that has sex with myself |
| 23:34:23 | pinkutank | but if I were one |
| 23:34:33 | pinkutank | itd be on anime |
| 23:34:36 | pinkutank | not anime |
| 23:34:37 | preglow | linuxstb: some interesting functions, like request_irc, don't seem to be in the ipl source at all |
| 23:34:38 | pinkutank | but |
| 23:34:41 | pinkutank | drawn stuff |
| 23:34:46 | preglow | linuxstb: i assume they're in the normal linux kernel source, then |
| 23:34:47 | pinkutank | oops that went out loud |
| 23:35:09 | TiMiD | :( |
| 23:35:13 | TiMiD | beark |
| 23:35:38 | pinkutank | beark? |
| 23:36:08 | TiMiD | french onomatopoeia |
| 23:36:32 | pinkutank | oh |
| 23:36:36 | pinkutank | the one thats like |
| 23:36:38 | pinkutank | yeach |
| 23:36:44 | TiMiD | something like that :) |
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| 23:36:50 | pinkutank | showin that you are disgusted |
| 23:37:08 | TiMiD | yep :) |
| 23:37:10 | pinkutank | people use it in turkish too |
| 23:37:13 | TiMiD | anime girls ughhhh |
| 23:37:23 | preglow | haha |
| 23:37:23 | pinkutank | I m not talking about tentacles and monsters tho |
| 23:37:25 | preglow | i don't get anime |
| 23:37:26 | pinkutank | no way! |
| 23:37:43 | preglow | the majority of it is shit |
| 23:37:44 | pinkutank | anything that has rape in it, angers me to hell |
| 23:38:03 | pinkutank | preglow, yes but I like supernatural stuff |
| 23:38:11 | pinkutank | because normal stuff is doable |
| 23:38:12 | pinkutank | :) |
| 23:38:16 | preglow | when it comes to anime, you can't get better than cowboy bebop, i'm afraid |
| 23:38:20 | preglow | only thing that works |
| 23:38:26 | TiMiD | some anime / mangas worth it |
| 23:38:29 | pinkutank | its treally good |
| 23:38:32 | pinkutank | i cried when it was over |
| 23:38:37 | TiMiD | but the majority is just commercial shit |
| 23:38:39 | preglow | and small wonder at that |
| 23:38:40 | * | markun watched Kiki's delivery service today |
| 23:38:47 | pinkutank | was it good markun |
| 23:38:51 | pinkutank | couldnt watch it yet |
| 23:38:59 | TiMiD | miyazaki's animesa re very good |
| 23:39:02 | pinkutank | i really like studio ghibli |
| 23:39:06 | preglow | all miyazaki is good |
| 23:39:07 | markun | Me and my girlfriend liked it |
| 23:39:07 | ghode|afk | preglow: you should try some samurai champoo, from the same makers |
| 23:39:13 | preglow | ghode|afk: i hated it |
| 23:39:31 | pinkutank | i liked champloo |
| 23:39:37 | pinkutank | ermm |
| 23:39:38 | ghode|afk | well its not as good as CB but it has its moments |
| 23:39:44 | pinkutank | I like tsubasa chronicles |
| 23:39:50 | preglow | perhaps, i didn't really give it much of a chance ;) |
| 23:39:57 | preglow | most anime doesn't sit too well with me |
| 23:40:00 | pinkutank | the mushroom episode was fun |
| 23:40:10 | pinkutank | i like ghost in the shell movies |
| 23:40:15 | pinkutank | i liked animatrix |
| 23:40:53 | TiMiD | GTO was good |
| 23:40:57 | TiMiD | and fun |
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| 23:41:14 | TiMiD | one that I like : bokusatsu tenshi dokuro-chan |
| 23:41:19 | TiMiD | 2nd degree |
| 23:41:48 | pinkutank | GTO is fun |
| 23:41:50 | pinkutank | but slow |
| 23:41:57 | pinkutank | I watched it in fast motion |
| 23:42:01 | pinkutank | x3 realtime |
| 23:42:24 | pinkutank | it was like reading incredibly fast scrolling text and watching chipmunks |
| 23:42:29 | pinkutank | but I didnt miss anything |
| 23:42:33 | TiMiD | GTO is an analysis of the human hypocrisy |
| 23:42:36 | pinkutank | and its ending was really vad |
| 23:42:42 | TiMiD | was interresting and fun |
| 23:42:43 | pinkutank | like? |
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| 23:43:20 | XavierGr | hey all anime discussion while I am watching Vision of Escaflowne? |
| 23:43:39 | * | CheeseBurgerMan assumes that's an anime... |
| 23:43:46 | XavierGr | yes |
| 23:43:53 | | Quit jaydpb ("CGI:IRC") |
| 23:44:01 | XavierGr | good anime drawing but I dislike their noses |
| 23:44:08 | XavierGr | they are HUGE! |
| 23:44:16 | CheeseBurgerMan | lol |
| 23:44:53 | TiMiD | and the eyes ughhhh |
| 23:45:02 | XavierGr | no |
| 23:45:07 | XavierGr | I like the eyes |
| 23:45:17 | XavierGr | or do you mean eye in Escaflowne? |
| 23:45:22 | XavierGr | ^eyes |
| 23:45:26 | TiMiD | japanese seems to have something to compensate :) |
| 23:46:36 | pinkutank | I wonder whats with the ultra huge breasts |
| 23:46:47 | pinkutank | every anime has a reference or two to breasts |
| 23:46:49 | TiMiD | for the perverts |
| 23:46:55 | pinkutank | melo-melo :P |
| 23:46:58 | TiMiD | to sell more |
| 23:46:59 | XavierGr | yes I dislike ultra huge breasts too... |
| 23:47:09 | pinkutank | I have a chinese manga in my hands |
| 23:47:10 | pinkutank | co-co |
| 23:47:15 | TiMiD | they are disturbed over there ... |
| 23:47:15 | pinkutank | It has caharcters |
| 23:47:16 | pinkutank | that has |
| 23:47:17 | XavierGr | But in normal anime titles this is not frequent |
| 23:47:27 | markun | I would like to know somethings about jtag/bdm.. anyone who could help? |
| 23:47:28 | pinkutank | %50 percent of their body as breasts |
| 23:47:41 | XavierGr | haha |
| 23:47:50 | pinkutank | its not sexy, its a kids manga |
| 23:47:54 | pinkutank | its jsut funny |
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| 23:48:31 | XavierGr | if you want perfect anime drawing (but not so in depth story) see Ah! My goddess. |
| 23:48:44 | pinkutank | its not bad |
| 23:48:47 | pinkutank | I have the dvd |
| 23:48:50 | pinkutank | but its raw |
| 23:48:54 | pinkutank | :) |
| 23:48:55 | XavierGr | a typical shounen title but the anime is great |
| 23:49:00 | XavierGr | eh? |
| 23:49:03 | XavierGr | raw as to what? |
| 23:49:06 | pinkutank | no subtitles |
| 23:49:08 | TiMiD | Ah my goddess is very thick :( |
| 23:49:19 | XavierGr | thick? |
| 23:49:24 | pinkutank | superficial |
| 23:49:37 | pinkutank | timdi? |
| 23:49:39 | TiMiD | not superficial |
| 23:49:45 | pinkutank | what kinda thick |
| 23:49:48 | TiMiD | I can't find the word |
| 23:49:50 | XavierGr | then? |
| 23:49:57 | pinkutank | whats the french |
| 23:49:58 | markun | Isn't there a #anime on freenode.. |
| 23:50:08 | XavierGr | what you don't like? |
| 23:50:14 | TiMiD | "niais" |
| 23:50:21 | CheeseBurgerMan | Yes there is, markun |
| 23:51:00 | XavierGr | markun: Do you say to us to continue there? |
| 23:51:04 | pinkutank | niais is like |
| 23:51:06 | markun | ;) |
| 23:51:07 | pinkutank | not really smart |
| 23:51:10 | pinkutank | ? |
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| 23:51:42 | XavierGr | Air TV was very good imho. (both anime and story) |
| 23:51:47 | TiMiD | hmm something like that, something that is intentionnaly dumb |
| 23:52:06 | XavierGr | yes but the animation was perfect. |
| 23:52:18 | TiMiD | but the story ... |
| 23:52:26 | TiMiD | air was also very good |
| 23:52:28 | XavierGr | yeah I know... |
| 23:52:30 | | Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) |
| 23:52:43 | TiMiD | kanon also |
| 23:52:56 | pinkutank | death note is smart |
| 23:52:56 | TiMiD | even if the video wasn't as good as air |
| 23:52:58 | pinkutank | but its manga |
| 23:53:04 | XavierGr | I want to see Elfen lied, is that good? |
| 23:53:10 | TiMiD | so so |
| 23:53:26 | TiMiD | it's to watch |
| 23:53:35 | XavierGr | hmm I think I will get to see kanon |
| 23:54:03 | TiMiD | kanon is from the same studio as AIR |
| 23:54:18 | TiMiD | and as air it was from an hentai CG |
| 23:54:19 | XavierGr | yes I know that's why I am tempted |
| 23:54:26 | XavierGr | wow |
| 23:54:29 | TiMiD | lol |
| 23:54:37 | TiMiD | because it was from hentai ? XD |
| 23:54:37 | XavierGr | I have heard that too, but... |
| 23:54:38 | pinkutank | do you mean they have good graphics |
| 23:54:43 | pinkutank | or both are not thick and good |
| 23:54:56 | XavierGr | air was an xbox game title I think. |
| 23:55:03 | TiMiD | computer game |
| 23:55:04 | pinkutank | timid |
| 23:55:07 | | Part speed123 |
| 23:55:11 | pinkutank | is air and kanon good |
| 23:55:12 | TiMiD | tes |
| 23:55:18 | TiMiD | yes it's very good |
| 23:55:22 | pinkutank | or just graphically? |
| 23:55:31 | TiMiD | graphically air is very good |
| 23:55:34 | XavierGr | I agree on Air, now I want to see kanon |
| 23:55:39 | TiMiD | the story is good too |
| 23:55:44 | pinkutank | I mean as an anime |
| 23:55:47 | TiMiD | I prefer kanon that air |
| 23:55:51 | pinkutank | what else would you advice |
| 23:55:57 | TiMiD | ? |
| 23:56:07 | pinkutank | I need more anime |
| 23:56:14 | pinkutank | 4 episodes a week doesnt cut it |
| 23:56:27 | XavierGr | what you wnat story or better animation? |
| 23:56:40 | XavierGr | or only both |
| 23:56:52 | pinkutank | both |
| 23:57:06 | XavierGr | that's hard. |
| 23:57:07 | pinkutank | full metal alchemist was good I Tohught |
| 23:57:30 | XavierGr | well I liked NGE but I think that you have seen it, no? |
| 23:57:34 | pinkutank | kenshin was good to a point |
| 23:57:36 | pinkutank | NGE? |
| 23:57:37 | TiMiD | moshi ichigo no pantsu ga mite hoshigatte iru, ichigo wo mite mo ii desu |
| 23:57:54 | XavierGr | Neon Genesis Evangelion |
| 23:58:00 | pinkutank | no not all |
| 23:58:19 | XavierGr | very good story imho |
| 23:58:33 | XavierGr | it is considered to be a classic |
| 23:58:37 | pinkutank | timid |
| 23:58:40 | pinkutank | what did you say aagain |
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