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| 00:20:41 | baobab68 | hi all |
| 00:21:05 | JdGordon | hi |
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| 00:31:33 | JdGordon | any1 know about plugin coding for rb? |
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| 00:32:55 | tucoz | hi |
| 00:35:04 | markun | hi tucoz |
| 00:35:50 | tucoz | have you recieved your gigabeat yet? |
| 00:36:00 | markun | no, I hope on monday |
| 00:36:12 | tucoz | cool. |
| 00:37:09 | markun | It will be a long way before rockbox works, but I have just encoded a movie on 320x240 (320x148) at 10 fps to see how it would look :) |
| 00:37:31 | markun | If we can get ffmpeg running |
| 00:37:39 | muesli_- | wohoo :D |
| 00:37:51 | markun | would be fun :) |
| 00:38:06 | markun | Someone with a H300 can start working on it of course. |
| 00:38:19 | tucoz | yes, and that unit will probably have the power to run it |
| 00:39:00 | tucoz | Although I have no idea how a coldfire@120Mhz compares to an arm@300 |
| 00:39:12 | markun | I hope so. The Gigabeat has about 2x the number of pixels, so maybe it's still not that much faster than the coldfire |
| 00:40:08 | markun | But I don't know how the number of pixels influense the decoding speed |
| 00:40:58 | tucoz | It really looks great as well. A friend with a video-ipod said that my h120 looks like a walkie-talkie. I have to agree on that. At least with the ugly leather protection case. |
| 00:41:54 | tucoz | which one is that you have bought? |
| 00:42:53 | markun | F40 |
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| 00:43:19 | markun | There was a F60 for sale on ebay today that wasn't much more expensive.. ah well.. |
| 00:43:46 | tucoz | what is the difference? hard disk, or something else as well? |
| 00:43:58 | markun | only hard disk |
| 00:44:50 | tucoz | ok |
| 00:45:11 | _FireFly_ | i guess the F60 has a 60gb disk :) |
| 00:45:12 | Jungti1234 | ow |
| 00:45:14 | Jungti1234 | morning |
| 00:45:14 | XavierGr | what hard disk does Fseries utilize? |
| 00:45:29 | tucoz | cool, you can tilt the unit to get proper aspect ratio |
| 00:46:23 | markun | XavierGr: toshiba of course :) |
| 00:46:42 | tucoz | wasn't 320x240 the aspect ratio of mode-x? I think I remember that 320x200 was what you got from vga-cards back in the day. |
| 00:47:03 | XavierGr | so can it take a 1.8 drive of a greater capacity. E.g can an f20 (if there is) hold a 60gb disk? |
| 00:47:09 | tucoz | And that didn't have square pixels. |
| 00:48:53 | muesli_- | is there anybody here with a patched and working h300 fw? |
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| 00:49:37 | markun | XavierGr: same problem as iriver. F20 can only have single pletter hdd |
| 00:50:12 | tucoz | oh, it doesn't have video-playback in the stock fw? |
| 00:50:43 | XavierGr | but I know that this relates to the size of the player not the number of platters, no? Or do you mean that the F20 is too small for a double platter disk? |
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| 00:51:13 | markun | tucoz: no video |
| 00:52:15 | tucoz | markun, I wonder why. Anyway, video should look pretty good on it. :) |
| 00:52:56 | baobab68 | DreamTactix291: hey man you guys were right about the mp3 conversions |
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| 00:54:52 | tucoz | good night. |
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| 00:57:16 | baobab68 | muesli_-: yes |
| 00:58:38 | muesli_- | i get 4mb for the patched korean fw, is that correct? |
| 00:59:25 | JdGordon | ye |
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| 01:00:31 | baobab68 | correct. |
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| 01:01:12 | baobab68 | muesli-: make sure you run md5sum on it. as long as the checksum matches that shown on the wiki, it *should* be ok |
| 01:01:29 | muesli- | ist identical with H320/H340 1.28-K 1145f86482724e79b3bea603a22dda0e DONE TomRoss |
| 01:01:35 | muesli- | but thats strange |
| 01:01:41 | muesli- | it was 2.5mb before |
| 01:01:49 | muesli- | and 4mb afterwards! |
| 01:01:49 | baobab68 | yeah i know. |
| 01:02:37 | baobab68 | even worse, you can apply skins to it with h3mod and it *still* works. (i'm only passing on the info, not recommending that you try it) |
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| 01:03:17 | baobab68 | anyone here willing to discuss OGG formats for a couple minutes? |
| 01:03:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, OGG is really a container. The audio format is generally "Vorbis" |
| 01:04:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | But what was the question? |
| 01:04:47 | baobab68 | hi paul |
| 01:04:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hola |
| 01:04:59 | baobab68 | more of the same from yesterday i am afraid. |
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| 01:05:26 | baobab68 | listened to a few of those transcoded (shock!) MP3 and they were in fact sh*t. |
| 01:06:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, what's the new question then? |
| 01:06:24 | baobab68 | so now i am trying OGG. I've replaced my ogg and vorbis dll's with the latest aotuv dll's, and you guys were right, vorbis is better at lower bit rates. |
| 01:06:30 | baobab68 | so, new question is... |
| 01:06:56 | baobab68 | which is preferable - quality based encoding or using bitrate options? |
| 01:07:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Generally speaking, quality based. |
| 01:07:33 | baobab68 | quality based doesn't seem to 'sound' as good to me, but is faster to encode. bitrate slower but better? |
| 01:09:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, in the end go with what sounds best to you. |
| 01:09:32 | baobab68 | either way i can get files about the same size as my evil WMAs and which i can only *just* hear the difference form the sources |
| 01:09:38 | baobab68 | form=from |
| 01:10:10 | baobab68 | so you and DreamTactix291 can feel good that at least some of what u said rubbed off. |
| 01:10:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 01:10:28 | baobab68 | i really appreciate the time u guys took to discuss that stuff. |
| 01:11:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | I still say it's a bad idea for you to be transcoding. I really can't predict which ways will end up sounding better in the end, but if using the bitrate options is creating better files it may work out better for yah |
| 01:12:45 | baobab68 | i plan to do my 4 star rated files (1800 of them) first and see how the total file size and quality suit me. |
| 01:13:03 | baobab68 | and RB is totally fine with OGG, right? |
| 01:13:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
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| 01:13:45 | baobab68 | battery life? |
| 01:14:02 | baobab68 | iriver firmware is reputed to suck battery when playing ogg |
| 01:14:17 | markun | The same is true for rockbox. |
| 01:14:25 | markun | Buy a bigger battery and you'll be fine |
| 01:14:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not that huge of a difference though. |
| 01:14:40 | markun | Or get preglow to do more optimisations :) |
| 01:15:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, it's not like it lasts half as long or anything |
| 01:15:06 | markun | I only have Ogg files, so I can't tell the difference |
| 01:15:16 | baobab68 | i plan to buy an ipod 1st gen battery soon |
| 01:15:24 | baobab68 | (sorry, i said ipod) |
| 01:15:34 | markun | And I have a 2200mAh battery |
| 01:16:34 | baobab68 | that's what i will go for. just a matter of swapping the -ve and +ve leads, right? |
| 01:16:43 | markun | baobab68: btw it's pronounces Ogg, after a character from the discworld series. |
| 01:16:52 | markun | yes, very simple |
| 01:17:30 | baobab68 | markun: presume we're both talking h3xx, right? |
| 01:17:54 | markun | baobab68: What kind of bitrate settings were you talking about btw? setting the upper and lower bitrate? |
| 01:17:57 | markun | H120 |
| 01:18:29 | baobab68 | oh, ok. still, mostly same circuitry except screen, in terms of battery drain. |
| 01:18:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, Ogg wasn't named after the Discworld character |
| 01:18:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's somewhere in the FAQ at the site. |
| 01:18:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | But apparently Vorbis was. |
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| 01:19:06 | markun | It wasn't? Hm, I was listening to some audio books and both Ogg and Vorbis were in them. |
| 01:19:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, there is an Ogg character in Discworld |
| 01:19:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | But the Ogg name for the container was taken from somewhere else. |
| 01:19:30 | baobab68 | one more RB question - is there any way to customise the front RB screen to have name and contact details on it? |
| 01:20:23 | baobab68 | that's the main reason i skinned my iriver firmware. |
| 01:21:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it's open source. |
| 01:21:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, theoretically the answer to almost any "is there any way to customise" question is "yes" |
| 01:21:29 | markun | "Nor is it named after 'Nanny Ogg' from the Terry Pratchett book Wyrd Sisters." |
| 01:22:03 | markun | "An 'Ogg' (pronounced [ŏg]) is a tactical maneuver from the network game 'Netrek' that has entered common usage in a wider sense." |
| 01:22:41 | markun | baobab68: which from RB screen? startup screen? |
| 01:22:44 | ashridah | baobab68: the bootup logo? yeah, i'm pretty sure it's an bmp2rb'ed .bmp file that's been tacked into apps/gui/logo.c |
| 01:23:02 | ashridah | not sure where the colour one goes tho |
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| 01:25:11 | baobab68 | compiling my own customer .rockbox folder is beyond my skill set I'm afraid |
| 01:25:20 | baobab68 | customer=custom |
| 01:26:26 | markun | you can always learn. All the info is in the wiki |
| 01:26:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, there's a step by step guide |
| 01:26:39 | baobab68 | i suppose i could make a WPS with my name in the status bar area. |
| 01:26:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | THere's not much you yourself have to know. |
| 01:27:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | You could also just create a .txt file in the root folder called "Context Info, ClickMe" or something |
| 01:27:22 | baobab68 | kind of more useful actually, the WPS way. if "my" WOPS was the only one on the machine, the user could never get rid of me. |
| 01:27:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, if someone finds it, they'd have to want to return it anyway. If they did, they'd see that and click it. |
| 01:27:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Contact, not context |
| 01:27:35 | baobab68 | i was about to say that. |
| 01:27:54 | baobab68 | they'd have to prise it from my cold dead hands most of the time.... |
| 01:30:13 | baobab68 | well time for breakfast. thank you again for the information. |
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| 01:31:04 | ashridah | someone could probably rig up a build for him later on that has the customisations he needs |
| 01:31:19 | ashridah | if he wants to stay up to date he's going to want to start building it himself tho :) |
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| 01:33:02 | JonSenior | Hi guys |
| 01:33:23 | ashridah | this party isn't quite completely stag, you know ;) |
| 01:33:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, he's on H3X0 right now, so rigging up a build for him any time soon, it'll be outdated quickly |
| 01:34:00 | ashridah | Paul_The_Nerd: well, yes, hence 'later on' |
| 01:34:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 01:34:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | I imagine I'll end up doing things like that. |
| 01:34:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | I like to try to be helpful, and that's within the range of "Things I can do" |
| 01:36:06 | JonSenior | Benacool: Are you currently reading? |
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| 01:37:51 | JdGordon | hey LinusN, quick q.. is there any way to get the date/time in rb? |
| 01:37:58 | JonSenior | Alternatively, is there anyone here running Rockbox on an H300 and using an H100 LCD remote? <Tall order? I think so!> |
| 01:38:05 | LinusN | JdGordon: which platform? |
| 01:38:11 | JdGordon | h300 |
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| 01:38:25 | JdGordon | well... ideally all.. but mainly the h300 |
| 01:38:25 | LinusN | JonSenior: i am |
| 01:38:39 | LinusN | JdGordon: i haven't yet ported the rtc functions |
| 01:38:47 | JdGordon | but its planned? |
| 01:38:53 | LinusN | of course it is |
| 01:38:56 | JdGordon | awesome |
| 01:40:00 | JonSenior | LinusN: Can I assume that your experience with the remote ID ties in with what we found yesterday then? I've finally found an area of code that I could help with, but I'm caught out by the hardware! :-) |
| 01:40:12 | LinusN | JdGordon: i'm concentrating on the obvious things first |
| 01:40:34 | JonSenior | I do have an idea for how it could work, but it involves user interaction on connection which doesn't really appeal! |
| 01:40:49 | JdGordon | :) |
| 01:41:01 | LinusN | JonSenior: does the original iriver firmware handle both remotes? |
| 01:41:17 | ashridah | LinusN: yes. |
| 01:41:19 | JonSenior | I'm not sure, I only have the H300 remote and H300 player. |
| 01:41:26 | ashridah | LinusN: i've plugged my H1xx remote into someone's H3xx |
| 01:41:48 | ashridah | it acted like the H1xx remote did, surprisingly. |
| 01:42:02 | LinusN | ok, so there must be a way to detect it |
| 01:42:05 | ashridah | iirc, the menus were virtually the same |
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| 01:42:22 | LinusN | until then, i don't see a problem with an option |
| 01:42:24 | ashridah | LinusN: you could test it yourself, couldn't you? don't you have both? :) |
| 01:42:40 | LinusN | ashridah: yes i could, i just haven't bothered |
| 01:42:43 | ashridah | heh |
| 01:43:15 | JonSenior | My potential solution would be to detect the connection of a remote, then prompt the user to press a button on the remote which has the same legend but a different code. |
| 01:43:35 | LinusN | i think there is a simpler way |
| 01:43:35 | preglow | a bit too... interactive |
| 01:43:37 | ashridah | but yeah, if i'd changed from a H1xx to a 3xx, i'd probably have either kept my remote, or bought a new one |
| 01:43:45 | JonSenior | It could be done relatively gracefully, but it's not as nice a automagic ID |
| 01:43:56 | JonSenior | s/a/as |
| 01:44:13 | JonSenior | Or even s/a/as an/ Need more sleep! |
| 01:45:23 | preglow | LinusN: little chance of the ipod port overtaking you now :/ |
| 01:45:42 | JonSenior | Anyways. Aside from the obvious (DAC) what other areas of the code are high priority and unoccupied? |
| 01:46:11 | JonSenior | I make no promises as to ability, but I'll gladly take a look now it's at a stage where I might be useful! |
| 01:46:35 | LinusN | JonSenior: cpu frequency management, power management, usb mode |
| 01:46:59 | LinusN | for some reason, the cpu can't run stable as 120mhz |
| 01:47:16 | preglow | you still think that's a peripheral issue? |
| 01:47:22 | LinusN | dac works, i just haven't committed it |
| 01:47:41 | JdGordon | commit damn it :D |
| 01:47:41 | LinusN | preglow: i have no idea |
| 01:48:22 | preglow | LinusN: i'd say don't let it be a show stopper, if we've only got 90mhz, it's no biggie, will only make us work harder on optimising |
| 01:48:56 | linuxstb_ | JonSenior: There's also lots of work needed on the plugins (larger and colour LCD), plus generally making Rockbox more colourful. Rockboy especially would be a popular plugin to improve. |
| 01:49:18 | preglow | if you're looking for groupies, rockboy is definitely the way to go |
| 01:49:34 | JdGordon | where in the code is the text viewer? i hate the entire page scrolling... |
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| 01:49:50 | JonSenior | Programming groupies? <shudders> ;-) |
| 01:49:50 | linuxstb_ | apps/plugins/viewer.c |
| 01:50:08 | JdGordon | ta |
| 01:52:11 | JdGordon | what the heck??? on+down is 1 line at a time??? (no offense intended) who came up with that??? |
| 01:52:35 | JdGordon | prob a preferecne thing tho.. i prefer scrolling lines at a time not pages |
| 01:52:47 | markun | linuxstb_: GCC can produce thumb code, right? |
| 01:53:03 | linuxstb_ | I'm pretty sure it can. |
| 01:53:36 | markun | what happens when you are in a block of thumb instructions and you get an interrupt that goes to non thumb code? |
| 01:53:47 | markun | Or is this not possible? |
| 01:53:53 | preglow | markun: yeah |
| 01:53:55 | linuxstb_ | You're f**ked ? |
| 01:53:59 | preglow | no |
| 01:54:09 | preglow | exceptions are always 32 bit |
| 01:54:13 | linuxstb_ | Or are interrupt handlers always 32-bit? |
| 01:54:17 | linuxstb_ | OK. |
| 01:54:24 | markun | so? |
| 01:54:28 | preglow | if you want thumb code in an exception handler, you will always have to deal with it yourself |
| 01:56:41 | markun | So the arm switches from thumb mode automatically when there is an interrupt? |
| 01:56:47 | preglow | yes |
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| 01:58:05 | markun | would be nice if the same is true for the endian bit |
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| 01:58:16 | preglow | i doubt that |
| 01:58:21 | preglow | where is the endian bit stored? |
| 01:58:27 | preglow | if it's in the cpsr, you're fine |
| 01:58:31 | preglow | if not, you're screwed |
| 01:58:39 | markun | In the 920T it's in the CP15 coprocessor |
| 01:58:48 | preglow | then i have no idea at all |
| 01:59:22 | JdGordon | does any1 know what the .rockbox/viewers/viewer.day file is supposed to look like? |
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| 02:08:22 | amiconn | bleh. |
| 02:08:38 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 hours and 25 minutes at the last flood |
| 02:08:38 | * | amiconn is fighting with Makefiles and associated stuff |
| 02:08:53 | JdGordon | kill em... kill em all... |
| 02:09:01 | preglow | definitely |
| 02:12:35 | preglow | LinusN: any reason why HAVE_RECORDING is commented out for h110 ? |
| 02:12:54 | LinusN | no, it shouldn't be |
| 02:13:23 | preglow | ok, i'll comment it out, then |
| 02:13:36 | preglow | i had someone test it a couple of hours back, he said recording worked just fine |
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| 02:14:17 | * | LinusN is installing bootloader v2 on his h300 |
| 02:14:41 | JdGordon | are viewer settings stored on a per file basis? |
| 02:14:55 | LinusN | i *think* so |
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| 02:14:59 | JonSenior | LinusN: Agh!! Good luck |
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| 02:15:04 | JdGordon | .. interesting... |
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| 02:21:59 | * | LinusN listens to fugees on his h320 with bootloader v2 and the upcoming bleeding edge build |
| 02:22:19 | JdGordon | congrats |
| 02:22:19 | ashridah | LinusN: did you manage the work out the button weirdness? |
| 02:22:21 | JdGordon | wooohooo |
| 02:22:27 | LinusN | ashridah: no |
| 02:22:29 | ashridah | or did you just clamp the max cpu frequency? |
| 02:22:32 | LinusN | yes |
| 02:22:36 | ashridah | ah |
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| 02:22:49 | JdGordon | so.. when od we get to listen also? |
| 02:23:10 | LinusN | hopefully in 20 minutes or so |
| 02:23:29 | JdGordon | you freeking legend :D |
| 02:23:47 | * | JdGordon is setting up cygwin here to fuck with the vierwer code |
| 02:24:43 | preglow | i were to do that, i sure as hell wouldn't tell people about it |
| 02:24:50 | preglow | +if i |
| 02:24:55 | * | amiconn is in perl horror and makefile hell :( |
| 02:25:05 | preglow | amiconn: please, there is only perl heaven, no horror |
| 02:26:27 | LinusN | the v2 bootloader is in the wiki |
| 02:27:44 | amiconn | preglow: Obviously I don't use perl often enough |
| 02:28:15 | preglow | me neither |
| 02:28:19 | preglow | but it was bliss when i did |
| 02:28:22 | amiconn | I need a script that takes a binary file as input and spits out a C source file containing an unsigned char array resembling the binary input file |
| 02:29:08 | amiconn | ...because it seems to be impossible to feed a plain binary file into the linker |
| 02:29:27 | JonSenior | LinusN: What does the new bootloader do that the old one didn't? More stable, or is it actually required for the upcoming bleeding edge build? |
| 02:29:34 | amiconn | (making it a section) |
| 02:30:59 | amiconn | Hmm, perhaps objcopy can do that? |
| 02:31:44 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Maybe this thread helps: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/ecos-discuss/2004-08/msg00038.html |
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| 02:32:48 | LinusN | JonSenior: it resets the UDA1380 DAC |
| 02:37:21 | JonSenior | Ahh. I'll be needing to grab that if I want sound then. |
| 02:37:35 | LinusN | it helps |
| 02:38:10 | preglow | haha |
| 02:39:20 | LinusN | without it, you'll only get sounds occasionally, like every second boot |
| 02:45:13 | JonSenior | Having a little trouble with the patching... When I use mkboot, it reports a success, but doesn't appear to write the new.bin file. I'm using the example from the wiki with the bootloader file substituted for the new one. |
| 02:45:47 | JonSenior | Looks like: tools/mkboot -h300 H300.bin bootloader-h300.bin ~/new.bin |
| 02:46:11 | LinusN | and new.bin isn't updated? |
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| 02:46:43 | JonSenior | It isn't created! |
| 02:46:56 | LinusN | any error messages? |
| 02:47:13 | JonSenior | No. Reports success. |
| 02:47:24 | LinusN | weird |
| 02:48:12 | JonSenior | Behaves the same even if I strip the arguments down to "-H300 H300.bin" alone. Just says "H300.bin: Success". |
| 02:48:42 | aliask | LinusN: I just installed the V2 bootloader and a bleeding edge build, but I'm still not getting any sound, is there something really obvious I'm missing? |
| 02:48:50 | JonSenior | I'm using the 25/11 daily build, but I don't imagine that being a problem. |
| 02:49:08 | LinusN | JonSenior: "Success"??? |
| 02:49:17 | JonSenior | I can't use fwpatcher as I'm running Linux alone with no Windows (Spit) on my machine. |
| 02:49:29 | preglow | JonSenior: wine? :P |
| 02:49:37 | JonSenior | LinusN: That exact line. |
| 02:49:42 | LinusN | JonSenior: should be "Wrote 0x3fcfd7 bytes in /home/linus/new.bin" |
| 02:51:04 | JonSenior | preglow: OK. Well Windows is basically junk and has in various iterations trashed my data and trampled all over... er... oh that wine! ;-) |
| 02:51:16 | JdGordon | LinusN: does the build being built atm have the patches for audio on the h300? |
| 02:51:17 | LinusN | JonSenior: afaik, none of the programs in tools/ say anything like that |
| 02:51:51 | LinusN | JdGordon: i'm afraid it will be another build after that |
| 02:51:57 | JdGordon | oh ok |
| 02:52:36 | JdGordon | what about the v2 loader? safe for geneal testing? |
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| 02:52:48 | LinusN | JonSenior: what if you run tools/mkboot without arguments? |
| 02:53:04 | LinusN | JdGordon: same as before, not recommended |
| 02:53:13 | JdGordon | ok |
| 02:53:32 | JonSenior | LinusN: <greps> You're right. The sucess line must be spilling out from another library. |
| 02:53:50 | JonSenior | tools/mkboot produces the command line instructions/ |
| 02:54:56 | JonSenior | Running it from the tools directory produces the following. |
| 02:55:13 | JonSenior | ../bootloader-h300.bin ../new.bin |
| 02:55:13 | JonSenior | ../H300.bin: Success |
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| 02:55:27 | LinusN | JonSenior: is the original H300.bin file freshly descrambled? |
| 02:56:04 | * | JdGordon just bricked my h320 |
| 02:56:13 | LinusN | JdGordon: for real? |
| 02:56:16 | JdGordon | ... na joking.. v2 installed fine |
| 02:56:22 | LinusN | :-) |
| 02:56:22 | Benacool | lol |
| 02:56:25 | preglow | hahah |
| 02:56:54 | LinusN | JonSenior: i have an idea |
| 02:56:55 | JonSenior | LinusN: yes |
| 02:56:58 | JonSenior | Go ahead |
| 02:57:02 | LinusN | make clean in tools/ |
| 02:57:07 | LinusN | and then make |
| 02:57:25 | JonSenior | Same result. |
| 02:57:31 | LinusN | :-( |
| 02:57:51 | JonSenior | I had to do a make in the first place as the bootloader tools had not been built. |
| 02:58:00 | JonSenior | Sorry. |
| 02:58:00 | preglow | they should be |
| 02:58:18 | preglow | fwpatcher says Success |
| 02:58:54 | preglow | but that's the only thing i can see |
| 02:59:04 | Benacool | just for info what is the "UDA1380" ? |
| 02:59:11 | LinusN | Benacool: the DAC |
| 02:59:11 | preglow | Benacool: the audio chip |
| 02:59:36 | preglow | JonSenior: i know this sounds far fetched, but what if you rm -r fwpatcher, then make clean and make? |
| 02:59:38 | Benacool | ok ^^ |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:09 | Benacool | so without the v2 bootloader, no audio ? |
| 03:00:15 | Benacool | or it's just a bugfix |
| 03:00:18 | preglow | Benacool: no, sporadic audio |
| 03:00:21 | Benacool | ok |
| 03:00:42 | Benacool | thanks ^^ |
| 03:01:44 | Membrillo | so this v2 tested for international models? |
| 03:01:58 | JdGordon | i just tested it on 1, installs fine |
| 03:02:09 | Membrillo | no brickage? |
| 03:02:18 | JdGordon | btw, how do i know if my model is us or int?? i just assume it is int coz bought in china |
| 03:02:32 | Membrillo | on the bottom what does it say next to the usb ports |
| 03:02:42 | Benacool | int in china (in therory) |
| 03:02:43 | JdGordon | media and data |
| 03:02:57 | Membrillo | ummm i think thats US |
| 03:03:00 | Membrillo | wait |
| 03:03:04 | Membrillo | im not sure |
| 03:03:11 | Benacool | data and media = us |
| 03:03:16 | Benacool | like mine |
| 03:03:28 | JdGordon | ha ok |
| 03:03:29 | Membrillo | yeah |
| 03:03:31 | JonSenior | preglow: Tried removing fwpatcher... same response. The data is present in the binary but not the source which implies a library issue. |
| 03:03:38 | JdGordon | better stop telling every1 i tried on int version :p |
| 03:03:46 | Membrillo | mines INT and it says USB 1.1 host and USB 2.0 Device |
| 03:03:46 | Benacool | lol |
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| 03:04:45 | preglow | JonSenior: this is really strange... |
| 03:05:06 | Benacool | h3mod should not be a problem in this version too ? (someone want to test ?) |
| 03:05:13 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:06:17 | LinusN | no it shouldn't be a problem |
| 03:06:56 | JonSenior | preglow: I'm just grabbing the bleeding-edge source. I'll see if that changes anything! |
| 03:07:58 | Benacool | oh the h100 - sim doesn't like this build lol |
| 03:08:04 | LinusN | saw that |
| 03:08:06 | aliask | Uh oh, I tried to start the iRiver firmware with the new bootloader, and it just turns off. |
| 03:08:12 | aliask | Can anyone else confirm that. |
| 03:08:41 | LinusN | aliask: hold rec until it starts |
| 03:08:47 | LinusN | rec and on |
| 03:09:10 | aliask | Yeah, the message "loading original firmware" or similar flashes for 1/10 of a second, and then the unit turns off. |
| 03:09:36 | LinusN | even if you hold rec and off? |
| 03:09:38 | LinusN | on |
| 03:09:51 | Benacool | have you copied the rockbox files on your player ? |
| 03:10:02 | aliask | Yeah, rockbox boots fine |
| 03:10:28 | LinusN | aliask: this sounds just as if you have let go of the ON button too early |
| 03:10:40 | aliask | Thanks LinusN, didn't realise you had to hold the ON button as well. |
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| 03:10:53 | LinusN | aliask: i told you |
| 03:10:57 | aliask | =) |
| 03:10:57 | Benacool | lol |
| 03:11:05 | aliask | False alarm everyone |
| 03:12:18 | aliask | Oh I see, the iRiver firmware also has to register the ON keypress to start... |
| 03:12:52 | Benacool | exact ;-) |
| 03:13:08 | Benacool | exactly i mean |
| 03:16:33 | JonSenior | Better. It helps if you remember to ./configure first! |
| 03:16:40 | JonSenior | <hangs head in shame> |
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| 03:16:56 | baobab68 | hi all |
| 03:16:56 | preglow | what? |
| 03:17:02 | preglow | that problem came from not configuring? |
| 03:17:29 | JonSenior | Looks like it. If I get bored I'll experiment later! |
| 03:17:32 | preglow | i don't see why the tools should need configuring |
| 03:17:38 | preglow | afaik, they shouldn't |
| 03:17:46 | LinusN | you don't need to run configure in tools/ |
| 03:18:14 | JonSenior | I made the classic debugging error of changing two things at once. I updated to the bleeding edge build and I followed the config rules. |
| 03:18:41 | JonSenior | My money would be on the former, but I don't recall seeing any commits that might have had an effect. |
| 03:19:14 | LinusN | did you do this: |
| 03:19:18 | LinusN | cd tools |
| 03:19:26 | LinusN | ./configure |
| 03:19:28 | LinusN | ??? |
| 03:19:30 | JonSenior | Yes |
| 03:19:35 | JonSenior | Then it bitched |
| 03:19:42 | LinusN | of course it did |
| 03:19:48 | JonSenior | So I created the build-dir |
| 03:19:58 | JonSenior | And followed the instructions. |
| 03:20:08 | JonSenior | I then ran make tools from the build-dir |
| 03:20:10 | JonSenior | and lo... |
| 03:20:15 | JonSenior | the tools doth work. |
| 03:20:21 | JonSenior | :-) |
| 03:20:34 | LinusN | extremely weird |
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| 03:21:04 | preglow | yes indeed... |
| 03:22:20 | webguest96 | LinusN |
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| 03:23:27 | Mongey| | Hi |
| 03:24:00 | Benacool | preglow: when you said sporadic audio its with v2 bootloader ? |
| 03:24:08 | preglow | Benacool: no, v1 |
| 03:24:12 | Benacool | ok |
| 03:24:53 | Mongey| | What the diffrence with the H300 bootloader v2 compared to V1 |
| 03:24:54 | Drumrboy|away | Audio ADC/DAC driver h100 60% Plays music h300 Same |
| 03:24:54 | preglow | LinusN: ok, i see why it was commented away, the sim lies in shambles |
| 03:25:00 | Drumrboy|away | is that true? |
| 03:25:02 | Benacool | with the lastest build with the v1 i have no sound at all ... its why i was not sure |
| 03:26:00 | preglow | there's got to be some wrong #ifdef hanging around |
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| 03:30:37 | Mongey| | So is there Music play back on the h300 |
| 03:30:44 | Drumrboy|away | no |
| 03:30:55 | JdGordon | .. not yet |
| 03:30:59 | JdGordon | publicly... |
| 03:31:00 | Drumrboy|away | just sporadic audio, to quote someone from before |
| 03:31:22 | Mongey| | wats that |
| 03:31:24 | JdGordon | no that was for when the new build is relased and u dont upgrade to v2 bootloader.. iirc |
| 03:31:36 | LinusN | it should play fine if you use the v2 bootloader and the latest bleeding edge |
| 03:31:37 | Drumrboy|away | wait... so theres a version in the shadows or a fix floating around, that works? |
| 03:31:40 | preglow | with latest bleeding edge and v2 bootloader, you should have audio |
| 03:31:45 | Drumrboy|away | wow |
| 03:31:47 | Drumrboy|away | :) |
| 03:31:49 | preglow | Drumrboy|away: sporadic was with v1 bootloader |
| 03:31:52 | JdGordon | latest as in online now? |
| 03:31:53 | Drumrboy|away | oooohhh |
| 03:31:57 | preglow | LinusN: you got any idea why only the h100 sim breaks? |
| 03:32:00 | Drumrboy|away | i misread then |
| 03:32:06 | LinusN | preglow: working on it |
| 03:32:20 | preglow | i can't find any obvious define errors |
| 03:32:41 | Mongey| | I WUV U GUYSS |
| 03:33:07 | Benacool | just booted with a h3moded firmware (1.28 K) with rockbox |
| 03:33:16 | Mongey| | pics? |
| 03:33:34 | Benacool | euh ... maybe tomorrow lol |
| 03:33:38 | Mongey| | great progress |
| 03:33:42 | Mongey| | kk |
| 03:34:02 | JdGordon | it doesnt start the iriver firmware anymore if the usb cable is plugged in... is that supposed to happen? |
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| 03:35:09 | LinusN | JdGordon: should be the same, it works for me |
| 03:35:14 | Benacool | i still dont have sound with the v2 bootloader and 2005-11-27 01:34 build |
| 03:35:30 | JdGordon | says "usb bootloader mode" or something |
| 03:35:39 | JdGordon | holding rec-on gets around it tho |
| 03:35:59 | JonSenior | benacool: Me either |
| 03:36:28 | LinusN | damn i forgot to commit one file |
| 03:36:59 | preglow | high time for an oops commit anyway |
| 03:37:03 | JonSenior | LinusN: That wouldn't be the one with DEFINE PLAY_SOUND=true in it? |
| 03:37:05 | JonSenior | ;-) |
| 03:37:28 | LinusN | JonSenior: :-) |
| 03:38:52 | JdGordon | the wps screen actually works now tho.. even if there is no sound :p |
| 03:39:04 | Benacool | do the player change when i plug it in even if nothing shows up on the screen (with the new bootloader) |
| 03:39:11 | JdGordon | any in flames fans here? |
| 03:39:23 | Benacool | charging* |
| 03:39:43 | Mongey| | JdGordon; is there no sound? |
| 03:39:48 | JdGordon | ye |
| 03:39:57 | Mongey| | there is |
| 03:40:04 | JdGordon | ye, there isnt... |
| 03:40:08 | Mongey| | lol |
| 03:40:12 | Mongey| | damn |
| 03:40:23 | Mongey| | no RB for me 2night |
| 03:40:26 | Benacool | next build lol |
| 03:40:42 | Benacool | i think ... |
| 03:40:46 | * | Mongey| = 14 |
| 03:40:57 | Mongey| | time = [02:40] |
| 03:41:10 | JdGordon | get to bed!!! or no dinner tomorow nighht :p |
| 03:41:19 | Benacool | lol |
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| 03:42:34 | Drumrboy|away | i hope i dont sound rele stupid, but where can i get the latest bleeding edge rockbox version? |
| 03:42:46 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 03:42:48 | aliask | Down the bottom of the daily builds page |
| 03:42:52 | Drumrboy|away | ok |
| 03:42:53 | Drumrboy|away | ty |
| 03:42:56 | preglow | it's going to take a while before it shows up |
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| 03:43:12 | Mongey| | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 03:43:27 | Drumrboy|away | and those files go into root? |
| 03:43:43 | aliask | Yep |
| 03:43:50 | Drumrboy|away | im doin it btw :) |
| 03:43:53 | Drumrboy|away | im excited |
| 03:43:57 | Drumrboy|away | :-D |
| 03:44:04 | Benacool | in 20 minutes |
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| 03:44:37 | baobab68 | exciting times andrew |
| 03:44:40 | andrewmel | wow lots happening, hi all |
| 03:44:52 | andrewmel | new bootloader. music plays now on h3xx? |
| 03:44:57 | andrewmel | anybody tried it? |
| 03:45:02 | Benacool | at next build in theory |
| 03:45:05 | Benacool | me |
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| 03:45:16 | Mongey| | andrewmel goto MR chat room |
| 03:45:33 | preglow | bah |
| 03:45:54 | preglow | which drunkard did config-h100.h ;) |
| 03:45:56 | Benacool | where is this chatroom ?! |
| 03:46:05 | Curtisator | hi guys - rockbox noob here - just wanted to report another sucessful v2/H340/international/1.28K flashing :) |
| 03:46:09 | | Nick aliask is now known as aliask|work (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:46:16 | Curtisator | good work fellas |
| 03:46:21 | }{CBM}{ | Benacool: Misticriver chatroom? |
| 03:46:25 | Benacool | yea |
| 03:46:33 | }{CBM}{ | irc://irc.zuh.net/misticriver |
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| 03:47:07 | Drumrboy|away | how do you put in a plugin? |
| 03:47:20 | * | Drumrboy|away is such a n00b... and apologizes |
| 03:47:22 | LinusN | "put in"? |
| 03:47:34 | LinusN | which plugin? |
| 03:47:49 | Drumrboy|away | heh, hi linus. where do you place files. such as rockboy / rockpaint |
| 03:48:09 | LinusN | rockboy is included in the rockbox build |
| 03:48:10 | amiconn | hmmmm.... |
| 03:48:16 | Drumrboy|away | ok |
| 03:48:17 | ashridah | Drumrboy|away: are you talking about compiling a new plugin? |
| 03:48:19 | Zak1392 | .rockbox/rocks |
| 03:48:26 | LinusN | rockpaint.rock goes to .rockbox/rocks/ |
| 03:48:28 | Curtisator | i am curious, however, to know if it is a known bug that pressing stop or pause when "playing" a track to expect RB to freeze up, requiring a reboot? |
| 03:48:29 | ashridah | or using one that exists? |
| 03:48:29 | Drumrboy|away | ok |
| 03:48:32 | Drumrboy|away | i see now |
| 03:48:39 | Zak1392 | does music work? |
| 03:48:55 | LinusN | Curtisator: yes |
| 03:49:05 | preglow | LinusN: found it |
| 03:49:05 | Curtisator | thanks |
| 03:49:25 | LinusN | Zak1392: yes, in the next bleeding edge build |
| 03:49:37 | Zak1392 | so i can't download it now? |
| 03:49:59 | andrewmel | hey great progress Linus, thanks for the great work |
| 03:50:17 | Benacool | in ~15 min |
| 03:50:24 | LinusN | andrewmel: yw |
| 03:50:34 | Zak1392 | yeah, thanks linus :) |
| 03:50:35 | * | ashridah waits for the howling mob complaiing that it "doesn't sound the same as iriver's firmware, therefore it's broken" :) |
| 03:51:07 | andrewmel | i am a patient fella, and have waited for a while, and am happy to keep waiting for the bugs to be ironed out, but once you have a stable version that does gapless i am on :) |
| 03:51:11 | preglow | i'll beat them into submission |
| 03:51:33 | LinusN | andrewmel: in 15 minutes you should have an unstable version that does gapless |
| 03:51:37 | * | ashridah notes that crossfeed tends to make the audio much fuller. pity it currently kills the volume a bit |
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| 03:52:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is the volume thing on crossfeed a bug, or just an effect of the process? |
| 03:52:03 | preglow | ashridah: bug markun to fix it, he should know how |
| 03:52:03 | andrewmel | cheers linus, about to go to a bbq for a late lunch but i will give it a run tonight, |
| 03:52:13 | JonSenior | LinusN: So sort of like a Windows Media Player with gapless playback! ;-) |
| 03:52:16 | LinusN | i'm going to bed |
| 03:52:22 | ashridah | someone mentioned it was due to the type of filter implemented on the newsgroup iirc |
| 03:52:25 | Drumrboy|away | good night |
| 03:52:26 | JdGordon | gnite.. thanx |
| 03:52:28 | andrewmel | night, and thanks again |
| 03:52:28 | ashridah | JonSenior: and no WMA |
| 03:52:30 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: it's an effect from a poor filter being used |
| 03:52:31 | JonSenior | G'night |
| 03:52:34 | Zak1392 | good night linus |
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| 03:53:15 | Drumrboy|away | fuck |
| 03:53:27 | Drumrboy|away | i just did the upgrade, and it wont turn on |
| 03:53:32 | JdGordon | haha |
| 03:53:37 | Drumrboy|away | no seriously |
| 03:53:41 | Drumrboy|away | im dead serious |
| 03:53:43 | JdGordon | hold down rec and on |
| 03:53:47 | JdGordon | and pray |
| 03:53:55 | Drumrboy|away | nothing |
| 03:53:56 | Drumrboy|away | dead |
| 03:54:01 | preglow | battery? |
| 03:54:07 | Drumrboy|away | nope |
| 03:54:12 | preglow | then no wonder it's dead |
| 03:54:13 | JdGordon | msg LinusN and c if he is still online |
| 03:54:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does it do *anything*? |
| 03:54:25 | Drumrboy|away | no |
| 03:54:26 | preglow | i believe him when he said he went to bed |
| 03:54:29 | Zak1392 | charge it |
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| 03:54:33 | Drumrboy|away | omfg |
| 03:54:33 | preglow | Drumrboy|away: press rec and on and hold them long, ok? |
| 03:54:38 | LinusN | Drumrboy|away: double click reset |
| 03:54:44 | baobab68 | i have stupidly done mine and it boots ok - 1.28K and bootloader 2, 26/11 build |
| 03:54:50 | Drumrboy|away | ok, im sorry to keep you awake... |
| 03:55:06 | baobab68 | did u check the md5sum after patching ur firmware? |
| 03:55:09 | LinusN | hold ON and double click reset |
| 03:55:16 | Drumrboy|away | wait |
| 03:55:20 | Drumrboy|away | i ave to find a clip |
| 03:55:51 | preglow | might as well want to hang on to it when you find one |
| 03:55:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 03:56:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | I keep one on my keychain. |
| 03:56:32 | baobab68 | tension |
| 03:56:32 | Drumrboy|away | omfg |
| 03:56:35 | Drumrboy|away | works |
| 03:56:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | It was hand recently. |
| 03:56:39 | baobab68 | phew |
| 03:56:39 | Drumrboy|away | stuck on screen |
| 03:56:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | *handy |
| 03:56:43 | Mongey| | Yippeee |
| 03:56:46 | Drumrboy|away | rockbox boot loader |
| 03:56:50 | Drumrboy|away | version 2 |
| 03:56:58 | Drumrboy|away | IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:57:06 | Drumrboy|away | i love you |
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| 03:57:17 | Mongey| | drum |
| 03:57:19 | baobab68 | now, anyone game to patch with H3mod? :-) |
| 03:57:19 | JdGordon | haha, u lucky bugger |
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| 03:57:23 | Mongey| | music? |
| 03:57:26 | Drumrboy|away | adrenaline is pumping |
| 03:57:31 | preglow | all's good |
| 03:57:36 | baobab68 | not yet, next build, isn't it? |
| 03:57:36 | preglow | i need sleep, later all |
| 03:57:38 | JdGordon | music in 6min |
| 03:57:42 | Drumrboy|away | wow, will that happen again or am i OK? |
| 03:57:47 | baobab68 | yee har |
| 03:58:07 | LinusN | Drumrboy|away: you should be ok, but now you know how to "fix" it |
| 03:58:17 | baobab68 | and just this morning i found a satisfactory conversion from WMA −−> OGG, so I will have music to listen to. |
| 03:58:25 | Mongey| | JdGordon, are u uploadind a file |
| 03:58:26 | * | Paul_The_Nerd cringes again. |
| 03:58:29 | baobab68 | congratulations again Linus |
| 03:58:34 | baobab68 | Paul_The_Nerd: sorry paul |
| 03:58:36 | LinusN | thx |
| 03:58:40 | Drumrboy|away | linus: thank yo |
| 03:58:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 03:58:41 | JdGordon | Mongey|: no, waiting for the bleeding edge build to finish |
| 03:58:43 | Drumrboy|away | you* |
| 03:58:48 | Drumrboy|away | i appreciate it so much! |
| 03:58:54 | LinusN | the build is finished now |
| 03:59:09 | baobab68 | i was nearly crying with you Drumrboy|away |
| 03:59:11 | Drumrboy|away | im still shaking now |
| 03:59:12 | Drumrboy|away | lol |
| 03:59:35 | Mongey| | i wanna do it but its a eu version |
| 03:59:48 | baobab68 | like the day mine wouldn't respond to any keys and then i realised i had the hold key on |
| 03:59:50 | Drumrboy|away | ok |
| 03:59:53 | Drumrboy|away | no volume |
| 03:59:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, why does it say "Fixed red sim build" and still show red sim builds? |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or is that "yet to be compiled"? |
| 04:00:06 | preglow | i have no idea |
| 04:00:07 | Drumrboy|away | no volume whatsoever |
| 04:00:10 | preglow | it just didn't compile it |
| 04:00:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | There was one day recently when I saw no red or yellow in the build list at all |
| 04:00:38 | preglow | seems there's a bug in some scripts |
| 04:00:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | I should've taken a screenshot |
| 04:00:47 | LinusN | Drumrboy|away: does it help to shut down and reboot? |
| 04:00:47 | Mongey| | drum |
| 04:00:54 | Drumrboy|away | i will try |
| 04:01:11 | Drumrboy|away | rebooting |
| 04:01:19 | JdGordon | holy freeking crap :D |
| 04:01:22 | JdGordon | 3 cheers for LinusN |
| 04:01:25 | JdGordon | i got music :D |
| 04:01:29 | Mongey| | LinusN' whats the I2C init for H300 |
| 04:01:29 | LinusN | wee |
| 04:01:31 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: there's a build coming up now, seems |
| 04:01:34 | Drumrboy|away | still nothing |
| 04:01:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, so I see. :) |
| 04:01:52 | LinusN | Mongey|: the initialization of the I2C communication with the DAC |
| 04:01:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not that I use the H100 sim, but it'd be nice to know I could if I wanted to. ;-) |
| 04:02:12 | Curtisator | nice - music here too |
| 04:02:18 | preglow | don't use it myself, but hey, it makes the table look good if it works |
| 04:02:19 | Curtisator | not clicky either! |
| 04:02:27 | Drumrboy|away | im trying iriver firmware |
| 04:02:28 | preglow | Drumrboy|away: sure you downloaded the latest bleeding edge build? |
| 04:02:29 | Mongey| | how many on 1.28k |
| 04:02:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, it's all about style. |
| 04:02:35 | Curtisator | 1.28k here |
| 04:02:38 | JdGordon | me 2 |
| 04:02:42 | Drumrboy|away | yea |
| 04:02:50 | preglow | Drumrboy|away: the one from like ten seconds ago? |
| 04:02:55 | Drumrboy|away | volume works (with some noise i never had before) |
| 04:02:55 | preglow | ten minutes |
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| 04:03:35 | Drumrboy|away | ok, so no rockbox volume |
| 04:03:40 | Curtisator | heh - man the h300 remote button mapping is stuffed. ;) |
| 04:03:56 | LinusN | Drumrboy|away: a/b->info->version |
| 04:04:03 | JdGordon | ? volume works fine here |
| 04:04:04 | Zak1392 | music works! YAY! |
| 04:04:12 | Drumrboy|away | ok |
| 04:04:15 | Drumrboy|away | i will try that |
| 04:04:27 | baobab68 | still putting 400MB of new Oggs on there... |
| 04:04:34 | Drumrboy|away | what info do you want? |
| 04:04:40 | LinusN | the version number |
| 04:05:06 | Drumrboy|away | 051127-0251 |
| 04:05:08 | JdGordon | hmm.. how do u cancel the track navigatiuon if a song is playing? |
| 04:05:10 | preglow | there you are... |
| 04:05:22 | Curtisator | nope - volume is all all over the show on my remote |
| 04:05:23 | baobab68 | LinusN: I note the processor is slowed down in this build. was that the only way to get it stable? (buttons?) |
| 04:05:25 | JonSenior | Another success here |
| 04:05:27 | Mongey| | What are the chances of me bricking my player |
| 04:05:31 | LinusN | baobab68: yes |
| 04:05:33 | Drumrboy|away | am i not using a bleeding edge? |
| 04:05:56 | LinusN | Drumrboy|away: get an even later one |
| 04:06:04 | Drumrboy|away | ill get the rele new one |
| 04:06:08 | preglow | like i said, the one from ten minutes ago |
| 04:06:10 | Mongey| | Drumrboy|away PMS |
| 04:06:13 | baobab68 | any other effects from the processor slowdown? |
| 04:06:28 | baobab68 | just curious. this stuff is fascinating to me |
| 04:06:38 | preglow | baobab68: you shouldn't notice much |
| 04:06:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, with luck, it'll mean more optimizations, and benefits 'round the table. :-P |
| 04:07:06 | LinusN | rockboy will be slower |
| 04:07:28 | LinusN | hopefully, this is just temporary |
| 04:07:35 | Curtisator | hmmm....gapless ogg ain't all that gapless |
| 04:07:38 | LinusN | until i find out why 120mhz doesn't work |
| 04:07:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | I noticed that Bejeweled is playing full speed again, which is nice. |
| 04:07:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | On the H1x0 I mean |
| 04:08:03 | * | baobab68 thinks Blink-182 never sounded so good |
| 04:08:08 | preglow | Curtisator: then your files are wrongly encoded |
| 04:08:17 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wagers it did on the original CD. |
| 04:08:29 | preglow | baobab68: they _never_ sound good :P |
| 04:08:33 | Curtisator | preglow: wrongly encoded how? |
| 04:08:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 04:08:35 | Benacool | U2 sound good too lol |
| 04:08:41 | * | JonSenior is listening to The Revolution by Chris_De_Burgh |
| 04:08:54 | Benacool | but at 100% youMll blow up your ears lol |
| 04:08:56 | preglow | Curtisator: as in i oggs are perfectly gapless on h1x0, and there's no reason at all they shouldn't be on h3x0 |
| 04:09:00 | Benacool | you'll* |
| 04:09:06 | JonSenior | Live CD and gapless seems OK. Slight jump but more likely to be my encoding |
| 04:09:14 | baobab68 | it's sooo beautiful.... :-) |
| 04:09:26 | baobab68 | thanks again Linus... and now, time for lunch... |
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| 04:09:35 | Curtisator | preglow: yes - that would be my point. :) |
| 04:09:43 | LinusN | lunch? it's 4am goddammit :-) |
| 04:09:44 | preglow | anywho, i've really got to sleep now |
| 04:09:45 | preglow | night |
| 04:10:02 | Curtisator | Preglow: i've done nothing special, or not, with these oggs - as far as i can tell |
| 04:10:10 | Drumrboy|away | im sittin here 5 mins trying to get iriver firmware to connect, and it wont, i forgot to turn off USB charging :? |
| 04:10:11 | Drumrboy|away | ;) |
| 04:10:12 | JonSenior | LinusN: 3am here, but I think you've earned your sleep |
| 04:10:19 | Benacool | when you want to play another sound of your choice how you do it (like the original firmware do with A-B button) ? |
| 04:10:20 | Zak1392 | gapless works great! dar side of the moon by pink floyd sounds amazing |
| 04:10:41 | webguest05 | it seems like the unicode patch doesn't affect the remote... |
| 04:11:00 | LinusN | ok, i'm going to bed |
| 04:11:11 | LinusN | nite all |
| 04:11:15 | JdGordon | nn |
| 04:11:18 | Curtisator | gn |
| 04:11:18 | | Part LinusN |
| 04:11:57 | webguest05 | can someone help me out with the unicode patch? |
| 04:12:16 | | Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 04:12:17 | Curtisator | interesting...gapless mp3 seems to work a treat |
| 04:12:18 | * | amiconn is annoyed by his selfextractor not working and goes to bed :/ |
| 04:12:53 | JdGordon | hmmm... trying to load a playlist with missing files crashes it |
| 04:12:59 | JdGordon | i tihnk thats why anyway.... |
| 04:13:52 | ashridah | Curtisator: gapless mp3 is done using some processing of the file. gapless ogg afaik doesn't use it, since it expects the variable frame size to already have it taken care of, and thus, any space at the end of a track is deliberate |
| 04:14:08 | ashridah | at least, afaik :) |
| 04:15:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | How'd you encode the OGGs? |
| 04:15:17 | Curtisator | ashridah: yep i understand this, which is why i'm surprised there is such a noticable gap between the oggs i've tried |
| 04:15:51 | Curtisator | it's not supposed to be there, unless it has to do with me seeking towards the end of the track instead of listening all the way through |
| 04:15:56 | Drumrboy|away | is it normal for multicolored static to sweep over your screen durring startup, right befor the bootloader kicks in? |
| 04:16:05 | Curtisator | seems to be |
| 04:16:17 | ashridah | Drumrboy|away: the framebuffer probably isn't being cleared early enough |
| 04:16:41 | ashridah | that's one of those niceties you take care of at the cosmetics stage of development ;) |
| 04:16:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Curtisator: How'd you encode the oggs? |
| 04:17:02 | Curtisator | Paul: just with cdex |
| 04:17:10 | Curtisator | straight cd -> ogg |
| 04:17:31 | ashridah | Zak1392: you don't have anywhere near enough smilies in that post :) |
| 04:17:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | And they play gaplessly elsewhere? |
| 04:18:14 | Curtisator | winamp handles them fine...but i can't say that isn't doing somekind of fancy prepuffering |
| 04:18:27 | Curtisator | or prebuffering even |
| 04:19:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Weird. |
| 04:19:05 | Curtisator | indeedy |
| 04:19:08 | Drumrboy|away | my screen just went blank white |
| 04:19:13 | Drumrboy|away | nvm... |
| 04:19:13 | CheeseBurgerMan | :o |
| 04:19:16 | ashridah | Curtisator: can you post two of them someplace? |
| 04:19:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was gonna ask about trying them on an H1x0 |
| 04:19:29 | Drumrboy|away | rockbox is almost more trouble than its worth |
| 04:19:32 | Drumrboy|away | ALMOST |
| 04:19:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | And maybe the bitrate or other settings. |
| 04:19:41 | Curtisator | can do - just let me find a couple of smallish ones ;) |
| 04:19:58 | ashridah | make sure they're normally sequential |
| 04:20:12 | Drumrboy|away | by theway, with an update, music works |
| 04:23:40 | JdGordon | has any1 figured out how to press the nav button whule playing and then press something else so the current rack stays playing? |
| 04:24:22 | Benacool | something should be fix ... when you press a button in original firmware, it light up the screen and after you press againg to do an action ... it will be cool to do the same thing with rockbox |
| 04:24:31 | Benacool | not fix but changed... |
| 04:24:55 | Curtisator | k - uploading a couple of tracks now |
| 04:26:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | On the H120 you can flick the hold swithc on then off to light up the screen, Benacool. That may work on the 3-series too, I dunno |
| 04:26:34 | Benacool | yea i know but ... |
| 04:26:57 | Benacool | when you hold the screen stay black but when you unhold it light up |
| 04:26:59 | Drumrboy|away | what is rockboy listed as in the plugins menu? i cant find it... |
| 04:27:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | You don't run it from the plugins menu |
| 04:27:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | You browse to the gameboy file and click it |
| 04:27:37 | ashridah | Drumrboy|away: you use it as a viewer anyway. grab a gameboy rom, and load it from the file tree by just selecting it |
| 04:27:52 | webguest05 | is there a way to get the older versions of cvs source? |
| 04:27:58 | JdGordon | gameboy roms work on rockbox?? |
| 04:28:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Benacool: What's the benefit of requiring a pre-press to turn the light on before you can do anything? It slows you down. |
| 04:28:22 | Benacool | it light up the screen easely lol |
| 04:28:25 | webguest05 | Paul_The_Nerd: that may be helpful at night, when you just want to check the screen |
| 04:28:52 | Benacool | because you see nothing on the h300 backlite is off |
| 04:28:54 | webguest05 | i just keep on flickering the hold switch |
| 04:29:10 | Benacool | when the backlight* |
| 04:29:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can change the backlight timeout though |
| 04:29:14 | webguest05 | oh in case of h300, that may be a necessity |
| 04:29:21 | Benacool | yea ;-) |
| 04:29:34 | ashridah | JdGordon: there's an emulator that's been ported. it's stagnated a bit, so it needs work to run properly that it isn't getting, but it does run |
| 04:29:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think it'd just be really annoying to have the first button press do nothing. |
| 04:29:48 | JdGordon | ok |
| 04:29:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is that true for all buttons? |
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| 04:30:01 | webguest05 | well, it doesnt always take the same time for me to look at the screen at night |
| 04:30:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I had an H340, would I have to hit pause twice to pause it? |
| 04:30:08 | webguest05 | mostly under 5 secs but many times more |
| 04:30:14 | webguest05 | this should be an option |
| 04:30:16 | Drumrboy|away | ok, cool i see it |
| 04:30:18 | Benacool | the h100 wps dont work really well on h300 lol |
| 04:30:21 | Drumrboy|away | its loading! |
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| 04:31:22 | Zak1392 | does anyone have any good h300 wps's? |
| 04:31:27 | Drumrboy|away | the speed isnt that bad on rockboy |
| 04:31:34 | Drumrboy|away | still need improovment though |
| 04:31:51 | Benacool | the bmp flashing on h300 with h100 wps |
| 04:32:13 | ashridah | Drumrboy|away: when it first started running, it was getting maybe 1-2 fps :) |
| 04:32:19 | Drumrboy|away | haha |
| 04:32:26 | ashridah | and consider that the game is fps<->gamespeed locked |
| 04:32:32 | Drumrboy|away | i would take some frameskip, would that be possible to do that? |
| 04:33:14 | ashridah | probably not |
| 04:33:23 | ashridah | that'd probably break the emulation |
| 04:33:43 | ashridah | the bottleneck isn't the drawing speed, it's the actual emulator itself. |
| 04:33:44 | Benacool | the rockboy plug-in have not been touch since a while |
| 04:33:58 | ashridah | but yes, someone needs to actually do some work to optimise it |
| 04:34:05 | Benacool | yea |
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| 04:34:34 | Drumrboy|away | wait, nevermind... the speed is really bad... but theres SOO much potential |
| 04:34:49 | Drumrboy|away | what language is this all in... C++? |
| 04:35:03 | Curtisator | k - gappy ogg examples - http://curtisator.com/10-Three Minute Warning 2.ogg http://curtisator.com/10-Three Minute Warning 3.ogg |
| 04:35:23 | Curtisator | it definately hits the HDD when loading the next track |
| 04:35:34 | Curtisator | and these are just plain-jane Q5 oggs |
| 04:35:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | C |
| 04:35:50 | Drumrboy|away | well, arent oggs know to have most loading time? |
| 04:36:01 | Drumrboy|away | oh, i should learn C then huh? |
| 04:36:04 | Drumrboy|away | ;) |
| 04:36:08 | ashridah | Drumrboy|away: C |
| 04:36:28 | Curtisator | true, but shouldn't it preload them? |
| 04:36:29 | Drumrboy|away | yup |
| 04:36:38 | ashridah | Curtisator: it DOES preload them. |
| 04:36:45 | Drumrboy|away | when i play rockboy i gfo into slow motion also, ita almost funny |
| 04:37:18 | RotAtoR | Curtisator: liquid tension experiment? |
| 04:37:19 | Drumrboy|away | ok, now how do you connect to your computer when in rockbox? |
| 04:37:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Curtisator: It caches something like 27mb of compressed music data, if i recall. (On mine, at least) |
| 04:37:32 | Curtisator | rotator - yep |
| 04:37:36 | ashridah | Curtisator: the second file there is giving out a 404 |
| 04:37:37 | RotAtoR | :) good stuff |
| 04:37:45 | Curtisator | :D |
| 04:37:50 | Curtisator | let me clean that link up |
| 04:37:52 | Benacool | rec + on and you hold them |
| 04:38:12 | Benacool | after you can plug the usb cable |
| 04:38:17 | Curtisator | http://curtisator.com/11-Three Minute Warning 3.ogg |
| 04:38:24 | Curtisator | duh...it's track 11 |
| 04:38:28 | Drumrboy|away | how long? |
| 04:38:28 | ashridah | you can see the effects of the caching by going to the menu, then to info->debug->view audio thread |
| 04:38:29 | * | Curtisator slaps his forehead |
| 04:38:46 | ashridah | there's a pcm buffer and a compressed audio buffer |
| 04:39:06 | ashridah | that screen will show the status of each (in realtime) and the current cpu boosting level and average |
| 04:39:22 | Drumrboy|away | rec+on isnt working |
| 04:39:30 | Drumrboy|away | how long should you have to hold? |
| 04:39:42 | Curtisator | till it boots into iriver fw |
| 04:39:43 | ashridah | Drumrboy|away: a few seconds each at least. |
| 04:39:51 | Drumrboy|away | ok |
| 04:40:18 | ashridah | Curtisator: gah. neither of those files are small :) |
| 04:40:26 | Drumrboy|away | ok, ill just use iriver firmware... |
| 04:40:32 | Curtisator | heh...sorry - all i could remember at short notice |
| 04:40:58 | ashridah | it's okay. might take me a bit to leech them. someone else may well beat me to it |
| 04:41:10 | Drumrboy|away | why would it boot into iriver firmware automatically w/o me doing anything? |
| 04:41:20 | Drumrboy|away | could it be because i had it in USB? |
| 04:41:29 | ashridah | Drumrboy|away: if it fails once, it automatically starts the iriver firmware the second time |
| 04:41:40 | ashridah | the charger also automatically starts iriver's firmware too iirc |
| 04:41:44 | Drumrboy|away | oh, so i should re-sync the rockbox files |
| 04:41:46 | ashridah | possibly usb as well |
| 04:41:50 | Drumrboy|away | oh |
| 04:41:50 | Drumrboy|away | ok |
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| 04:42:34 | JonSenior | Right... can't focus properly anymore... time to sleep. Congrats to all responsible for sound on the H300. Much impressed! |
| 04:42:37 | JonSenior | G'night |
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| 04:43:52 | whatboutbob | hey folks |
| 04:44:43 | whatboutbob | i think i just managed to corrupt about 100gig worth of flacs on the 1 hdd i haven't backed up. yay! |
| 04:44:54 | Benacool | ishhh |
| 04:45:41 | Drumrboy|away | :'-( |
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| 04:46:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | HOw'd that happen? |
| 04:47:38 | Benacool | why the cpu always change from 45,90,45,90,... mhz when playing ? |
| 04:47:45 | Benacool | it's normal ? |
| 04:48:48 | whatboutbob | still not sure exactly how it happened. i just bought a new case/mobo/cpu...switched everthing into that, and on about the 4th boot chkdsk came up and ran thru most of the files on the drive saying 'orphaned' files or some such thing. |
| 04:49:37 | Benacool | old hd ? |
| 04:50:49 | whatboutbob | half of them were 'salvaged'...but half of them are giving a flac error: 'error while processing frame (flac_file_decoder_seekable_stream_decoder_error). This is caused by corrupted file or hardware malfunction.' |
| 04:51:02 | whatboutbob | hdd's only about a year old |
| 04:51:06 | Drumrboy|away | Mongey just upgraded |
| 04:51:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Benacool: Yes that's normal |
| 04:52:03 | Benacool | the cable of the hd is well pluged ? |
| 04:52:51 | Benacool | Paul_The_Nerd: to save energy I imagine ? |
| 04:52:53 | whatboutbob | benacool: yeah |
| 04:52:58 | Benacool | k |
| 04:53:37 | whatboutbob | anyone know the best/fastest software to verify a lot of flacs? |
| 04:54:23 | Drumrboy|away | ummmmm no WindowsMediaPlayer |
| 04:54:25 | Drumrboy|away | ; |
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| 04:54:28 | Drumrboy|away | ;)* |
| 04:54:52 | whatboutbob | it sucks too cos i bought a new sata drive to transfer all the files over to today. |
| 04:55:45 | Drumrboy|away | it does |
| 04:55:47 | ashridah | ouch :( |
| 04:56:33 | Drumrboy|away | is remote support in rockboy possible? |
| 04:56:44 | ashridah | possible |
| 04:56:48 | ashridah | everything is possible |
| 04:56:54 | ashridah | well, potentially possible |
| 04:56:57 | Drumrboy|away | why wont somebody do that?? |
| 04:57:08 | ashridah | because no-one's investing any time in it |
| 04:57:22 | ashridah | the only person who did stopped, and isn't here anymore. |
| 04:57:50 | Drumrboy|away | that stinks... i know i keep complaining, dont wanna sound like a killjoy ;) |
| 04:58:11 | Drumrboy|away | so glad i did rickbox though... made me realize how bloated stock firmware is |
| 04:58:18 | Drumrboy|away | rockbox* |
| 04:58:39 | Benacool | bloated ? |
| 04:58:51 | Drumrboy|away | like... huge fonts, huge graphics |
| 04:59:00 | Drumrboy|away | all unnecessarry |
| 04:59:07 | ashridah | that's not really 'bloat' in the traditional sense |
| 04:59:14 | ashridah | and you realise rockbox has like a zillion fonts ;) |
| 04:59:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think it'd be neat if the remote still controlled music playback while plugins were active |
| 04:59:35 | Drumrboy|away | that would be cool |
| 04:59:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Like, if I could adjust volume or change tracks in the playlist while playing bejeweled. |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox has a zillion fonts, *and* you can add more easily. |
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| 05:01:49 | Drumrboy|away | i like hicago, but it reminds me of old macs ;) |
| 05:02:37 | Drumrboy|away | chicago** |
| 05:02:43 | Drumrboy|away | i gtg |
| 05:02:54 | | Nick Drumrboy|away is now known as drumr|away (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c20ff1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:04:11 | Benacool | nimbus-14 is better than the tiny little default font lol |
| 05:05:08 | whatboutbob | can ne1 recommend any disk recovery software? |
| 05:05:13 | drumr|away | are 'they' making screens especialloy for the h300's yet? |
| 05:05:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:05:30 | drumr|away | whatboutbob: no sorry :( |
| 05:06:36 | drumr|away | also what is 'caption backlight' |
| 05:07:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | I use a font slightly *smaller* than the default actually |
| 05:07:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though again, I wish I could set a larger font for the remote. Right now I just swtich configs for when I'm in the car. |
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| 05:10:30 | Zak1392 | yeah, what is caption backlight? |
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| 05:14:50 | Jungti1234 | I want to know it, too. |
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| 05:17:06 | Kyl3 | bootloader v2! :) |
| 05:17:58 | Kyl3 | audio playback yet? |
| 05:18:03 | Benacool | and music playback! |
| 05:18:17 | Benacool | with lastest bleeding edge build |
| 05:18:25 | Benacool | + bootloader v2 |
| 05:18:50 | Kyl3 | yes |
| 05:19:03 | Kyl3 | is the dead syndrome fixed yet? |
| 05:19:17 | Benacool | don't know... |
| 05:19:36 | Benacool | what is this dead syndrome ? |
| 05:20:02 | Kyl3 | Where the HD spins up, nothing on display |
| 05:20:15 | Kyl3 | have to reset it and plug in the ac adapter |
| 05:20:59 | Benacool | when the rockbox folder is not on the dh ? |
| 05:21:07 | Benacool | hd* |
| 05:21:16 | Kyl3 | no it is |
| 05:21:31 | Kyl3 | im assuming you havent experienced it then |
| 05:21:39 | Benacool | never |
| 05:22:11 | Benacool | i lstening music now with my h300 running with rockbox :-D |
| 05:22:15 | Kyl3 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883.0 few posts down |
| 05:22:18 | ashridah | Curtisator: okay, it's weird. i didn't notice any gap on my H140 with those two oggs |
| 05:22:33 | Kyl3 | =) I gotta get mine back from iriver first |
| 05:24:04 | Benacool | good night guys ! |
| 05:24:22 | Curtisator | ashridah: how odd |
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| 05:24:52 | Curtisator | i'm also hearing an occasional pause during regular playback |
| 05:25:06 | Curtisator | maybe buffers aren't quite being populated quickly enough? |
| 05:25:35 | ashridah | Curtisator: it could depend on the codec |
| 05:25:44 | ashridah | keep in mind the player's currently clamped at 90Mhz |
| 05:25:53 | Curtisator | yeah...that was my next though |
| 05:25:55 | Curtisator | t |
| 05:25:57 | ashridah | you may want to look at the audio thread viewer |
| 05:26:06 | ashridah | menu->info->debug->view audio thread |
| 05:26:19 | ashridah | it'll show the state of the two buffers, if the pcm buffer empties, then you get a skip |
| 05:26:25 | Curtisator | i have done...haven't seen it empty myself yet, but it is clearly struggling |
| 05:28:00 | ashridah | lossy codecs by their nature aren't as efficient as lossless ones |
| 05:28:32 | DreamTactix291 | you mean decode efficiency? |
| 05:28:40 | ashridah | yes |
| 05:28:47 | ashridah | they require more cpu |
| 05:28:49 | DreamTactix291 | depends on the lossy and lossless codec |
| 05:29:04 | ashridah | it really doesn't. |
| 05:29:05 | DreamTactix291 | i.e. LA or OptimFROG at max setting take forever to decode :) |
| 05:29:20 | DreamTactix291 | but FLAC and WavPack both decode fast |
| 05:29:28 | ashridah | not with what rockbox has currently, at any rate |
| 05:29:55 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 05:29:59 | DreamTactix291 | well |
| 05:30:17 | DreamTactix291 | if musepack was optimised a lot it would be very efficient. mp3 is moderately efficient |
| 05:30:27 | DreamTactix291 | Vorbis and AAC are the CPU hogs of the lossies |
| 05:30:31 | DreamTactix291 | since their the most modern |
| 05:32:25 | DreamTactix291 | for lossless I use WavPack high so it decodes about half as fast as FLAC |
| 05:32:27 | DreamTactix291 | but is still fast |
| 05:32:51 | Curtisator | well, i guess I'll keep an eye on the bleeding edge builds - RB is still making absolutely amazing progress :) |
| 05:33:39 | DreamTactix291 | it got very usable very fast on the H100s |
| 05:33:40 | DreamTactix291 | :) |
| 05:33:55 | Curtisator | hell it's useable right now on the H300 |
| 05:34:20 | Curtisator | been listening to it for the past hour or so with only minor complaints |
| 05:34:45 | DreamTactix291 | :) |
| 05:34:50 | DreamTactix291 | is it gapless yet on the H300s? |
| 05:34:59 | Benacool | with ogg i think |
| 05:35:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Reports are mixed |
| 05:35:12 | DreamTactix291 | yeah vorbis was gapless first for the H100ss |
| 05:35:12 | Curtisator | from what i've heard, mp3 yes, but my oggs aren't playing ball |
| 05:35:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Someone said gapless MP3s worked, someone said Gapless OGGS worked |
| 05:35:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Curtisator isn't getting gapless oggs though |
| 05:35:47 | DreamTactix291 | well |
| 05:35:55 | DreamTactix291 | won't be long before it's all gapless on the H300s |
| 05:35:56 | Benacool | on mine mp3 aren't gapless but not far form it lol |
| 05:36:06 | DreamTactix291 | it was that way for the H100s for about 2 months |
| 05:36:07 | Benacool | from* |
| 05:36:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, the MP3 have to be encoded properly using LAME I understand |
| 05:36:13 | DreamTactix291 | it took a while for them to get LAME gapless perfect |
| 05:36:15 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 05:36:25 | DreamTactix291 | has to have correct enc_delay and enc_padding values |
| 05:36:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | But basically, since the H300 build should be using the same codecs, if it works on 100 it *should* work on 300 I think... |
| 05:36:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | To my understanding... |
| 05:36:46 | Curtisator | i don't understand my ogg problem - i'm watching the audio buffer and it appears to be working as advertised |
| 05:37:05 | DreamTactix291 | Curtisator: it's probably some very small vorbis decoding issue on the H300s |
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| 05:37:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does either buffer do anything interesting at the same time as the skip? |
| 05:37:47 | Curtisator | let me check again |
| 05:38:39 | Curtisator | nope...nothing |
| 05:39:03 | Curtisator | using muse - absolution this time it simply fills the codec buffer with the following tracks |
| 05:39:09 | Curtisator | then has a little skip |
| 05:39:27 | Curtisator | the pcm buffer is flapping like no tomorrow, but it never empties |
| 05:39:55 | RotAtoR | any h300 owner care to test an updated version of my bejeweled plugin?: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/aboot2/www/h300/bejeweled.rock |
| 05:40:07 | RotAtoR | i've updated the graphics and used the colors eli_sherer picked |
| 05:40:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well the PCM buffer should flap |
| 05:41:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is the skip complete silence? |
| 05:41:10 | Curtisator | seems like it |
| 05:41:34 | Curtisator | it's normal for the OCM to go from nearly full to nearly empty during normal playback? |
| 05:41:38 | Curtisator | *PCM |
| 05:41:56 | ashridah | Curtisator: pcm will fluctuate quickly, it's not that big a buffer |
| 05:42:43 | ashridah | there are watermarks that should kick in, and make it boost the cpu and fill it up, but because it can only hit 90MHz, you're probably finding that that still isn't quite quick enough |
| 05:43:06 | Curtisator | it's not so much the rate i'm questioning, it's the variation |
| 05:43:16 | Curtisator | yeah that sounds reasonable |
| 05:44:50 | Curtisator | RotAtoR: giving it a whirl now |
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| 05:46:13 | RotAtoR | ok, thanks |
| 05:46:21 | ModernExecutive | hi |
| 05:46:36 | DreamTactix291 | yo ME |
| 05:46:42 | ModernExecutive | dt, what's new? |
| 05:46:50 | ModernExecutive | I wanted to confirm that the bootloader patch is supposed to patch international versions of the h300 fw |
| 05:47:03 | ModernExecutive | and can anyone dcc me the patch? |
| 05:47:09 | ModernExecutive | or direct me to a url |
| 05:48:54 | DreamTactix291 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 05:49:13 | ModernExecutive | ty |
| 05:49:17 | DreamTactix291 | yw |
| 05:49:20 | DreamTactix291 | i see H300 v2 came out |
| 05:49:22 | DreamTactix291 | which is good |
| 05:49:22 | baobab68 | we |
| 05:49:45 | ModernExecutive | v2? the one that plays music? |
| 05:49:58 | * | ModernExecutive assumes that dt is referring to the latest rockbox build |
| 05:50:05 | DreamTactix291 | well H300 daily builds play music now |
| 05:50:05 | baobab68 | am i imagining it or does rockbox sound "better" than iriver firmware? |
| 05:50:10 | DreamTactix291 | but the bootloader should be more stable now |
| 05:50:24 | DreamTactix291 | baobab68: well to me i like the replaygain support |
| 05:50:33 | ModernExecutive | do EQ settings work? |
| 05:50:36 | DreamTactix291 | without it they're close though assuming both flat |
| 05:50:36 | ashridah | baobab68: people have commented on that in the past |
| 05:50:48 | Curtisator | RotAtoR:heh - bejeweled is pretty cool :) |
| 05:50:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though it must be an interesting "better" |
| 05:50:54 | baobab68 | i should have MediaMonkey calc the gain on all my tracks, there was no point before now. |
| 05:50:55 | ashridah | ModernExecutive: bass and treble do, and there are other ways to get gain features |
| 05:50:58 | RotAtoR | :) so it works? |
| 05:51:03 | DreamTactix291 | i replaygain and play flat |
| 05:51:06 | DreamTactix291 | that's how i like it |
| 05:51:11 | baobab68 | Paul_The_Nerd: alright alright.... |
| 05:51:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | ;-) |
| 05:51:25 | ModernExecutive | can the bootloader patch a us version of the fw? |
| 05:51:29 | Curtisator | yep - it works well |
| 05:51:32 | RotAtoR | Curtisator: how are the colors? any that don't work very well? |
| 05:51:44 | baobab68 | right now nat king cole is crooning "what'll i do" and there is more depth to his voice |
| 05:51:47 | Curtisator | works well, though a little slow |
| 05:51:54 | Curtisator | colours look fine to me |
| 05:52:19 | Curtisator | maybe the hearts should be black...and broken ;) |
| 05:52:32 | RotAtoR | hehe :) thanks for testing it! |
| 05:52:46 | Curtisator | no problem |
| 05:54:59 | Curtisator | woot! level 2 :p |
| 05:57:36 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 05:57:55 | ModernExecutive | bah :( |
| 05:58:19 | ModernExecutive | firmware patcher does not recognize the h300's 1.03 US firmware version |
| 05:58:51 | ashridah | ModernExecutive: correct. |
| 05:58:59 | ashridah | it only recognises tested official firmwares |
| 05:59:23 | ModernExecutive | i gathered. |
| 05:59:49 | ModernExecutive | is cvs the open source version control? |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:13 | ashridah | not 'the' so much as 'a'. |
| 06:00:30 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 06:00:39 | ashridah | there are others, but cvs is what rockbox currently use |
| 06:00:53 | ModernExecutive | i'm dumb. is it possible to put the bootloader into the us firmware using cvs? |
| 06:00:56 | ashridah | there was some discussion of changing to subversion at one stage, but that didn't eventuate, no-one wanted to set it up |
| 06:01:17 | ashridah | ModernExecutive: i'm not sure if mkboot supports that US firmware |
| 06:01:26 | ashridah | it might. |
| 06:01:30 | Curtisator | bejeweled screenshot: http://curtisator.com/bejeweled.jpg ;) |
| 06:01:38 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 06:02:16 | ashridah | bah. colour makes it too easy :) |
| 06:02:24 | Jungti1234 | colorful~ |
| 06:02:25 | Curtisator | heh |
| 06:02:29 | BBub | morning |
| 06:02:36 | Jungti1234 | morning |
| 06:02:43 | RotAtoR | weeee! |
| 06:02:43 | BBub | did anyone else encounter recoring problems on the h1xx series? |
| 06:02:50 | baobab68 | gapless working here on Ogg's if anyone wants to know |
| 06:03:13 | BBub | i tried to record a dj set but the player said the disk was full when it reached the 2 gb limit ;( |
| 06:03:24 | BBub | and left a 2nd file with 0 byte in size |
| 06:03:34 | Jungti1234 | -_-; |
| 06:04:56 | BBub | i take that as a no :D |
| 06:05:11 | whatboutbob | RotAtoR: nice clean wps on mr |
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| 06:05:38 | RotAtoR | thanks! that was quick, just posted it not 10 minutes ago :p |
| 06:05:49 | whatboutbob | bbub: you should be able to recover the 0 file. |
| 06:06:00 | ModernExecutive | any place that i could download cvs? |
| 06:06:01 | BBub | recover? |
| 06:06:06 | | Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") |
| 06:06:09 | BBub | it stopped recording |
| 06:06:09 | ModernExecutive | it doesn't seem to be on the gnu.org ftp server |
| 06:06:09 | whatboutbob | gimme a min to find the link |
| 06:07:32 | baobab68 | gonna take me a while to get used to pressing buttons once!! on iriver firmware - once to wake up the backlight, and once to skip to next track. on RB, just skip... |
| 06:07:52 | whatboutbob | bbub: r u sure? it should auto-started a new file. |
| 06:07:59 | BBub | it should, yes |
| 06:08:06 | BBub | but it said the disk was full when it wasnt |
| 06:08:41 | whatboutbob | ahh...ok...i think i i had something similar with iriver fw recently. |
| 06:08:54 | Curtisator | RotAtoR: the colours are a litle darker on the actual screen |
| 06:09:06 | whatboutbob | i ended up just formatting the drive. never did get to the bottom of it. |
| 06:09:22 | BBub | well, i dont think formattign would help here :) |
| 06:09:44 | BBub | as it exactly stopped with that error message when it reached the 2gb limit |
| 06:09:48 | BBub | which smells like a bug |
| 06:09:52 | whatboutbob | deleting files via windows explorer wouldn't update the free space. whereas if i deleted via iriver/rb the space would reappear. |
| 06:10:14 | BBub | i made sure it had the correct free space before recording |
| 06:10:18 | BBub | it said 5 gb |
| 06:10:23 | RotAtoR | Curtisator: ok, i figured they would be |
| 06:10:25 | BBub | and there are still 3 gb free |
| 06:10:49 | RotAtoR | its just so hard to tell, the simulator isn't exactly true to how it looks on an actual unit |
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| 06:11:21 | whatboutbob | almost exact same thing happened with iriver fw tho. i tried to restart recordign and was repeatedly told that the hdd was full, even tho i had 5 gig free. |
| 06:11:41 | BBub | i wasnt told the hdd was full when i tried to record again |
| 06:11:48 | BBub | it just produced another 0 byte file |
| 06:11:53 | BBub | very weird |
| 06:12:05 | whatboutbob | hrm...interesting. |
| 06:12:24 | BBub | must have gotten into a state where it couldnt record anymore |
| 06:12:30 | BBub | caused by the splitting |
| 06:12:50 | BBub | as i didnt restart the unit |
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| 06:13:37 | whatboutbob | when u attempt to record anything now do u still get 0 byte recordings? |
| 06:13:38 | Curtisator | i'm off - congrats to all RB coders involved :) |
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| 06:14:03 | whatboutbob | and was the recording actually running? could u hear anything via the monitor? |
| 06:14:29 | BBub | no, after restarting everything is fine |
| 06:14:35 | BBub | and yes, the recording is fine |
| 06:14:47 | BBub | i have 3:23 of full music |
| 06:15:06 | BBub | right until it tried to split everything wnt fine |
| 06:15:09 | BBub | *went |
| 06:15:53 | ModernExecutive | i need visual c++ to run cvs? |
| 06:16:12 | BBub | ModernExecutive: not that i know |
| 06:16:36 | whatboutbob | hrmm...curiouser & curiouser... |
| 06:16:47 | BBub | well, to me its quite clear :) |
| 06:16:52 | BBub | the splitting is buggy |
| 06:17:11 | whatboutbob | bbub: *shrugs* its worked for me a bunch of times tho... |
| 06:18:12 | BBub | maybe it is player related |
| 06:18:20 | BBub | the recording was disabled on the h110 before |
| 06:18:23 | whatboutbob | always on a previously empty drive tho with heaps of room left. |
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| 06:20:53 | BBub | well, i think the only thing i could to is test it again |
| 06:21:07 | whatboutbob | ja...i might see if i can replicate. |
| 06:21:23 | whatboutbob | so u had about 7gig free when u started? |
| 06:21:38 | BBub | i had 5 gig free when i started and now there are 3 gigs left |
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| 06:21:48 | BBub | as it only recorded 2 gb before it stopped |
| 06:24:05 | whatboutbob | k...and just in case your bug's related to mine (amuse me)...do u delete files via windows explorer? |
| 06:24:35 | BBub | i did, but i also deleted soem files/folders via rockbox |
| 06:27:05 | whatboutbob | got a rough estimate on how much deleted by each method? |
| 06:27:28 | BBub | most stuff by using rockbox |
| 06:27:54 | whatboutbob | k |
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| 06:29:15 | BBub | do you have a h11x or a h120/140? |
| 06:29:51 | DreamTactix291 | yay LAME 3.97b2 is out :D |
| 06:30:41 | BBub | uhm, doesnt b stand for beta? ;) |
| 06:32:39 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 06:32:53 | DreamTactix291 | every audio encoder i'm using lately is beta |
| 06:32:58 | DreamTactix291 | wavpack, lame and aoTuV |
| 06:33:07 | BBub | ok |
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| 06:34:25 | DreamTactix291 | 3.97b1 was the recommended version at HA.org |
| 06:34:34 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
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| 06:38:47 | Jungti1234_ | hehe |
| 06:40:40 | Jungti1234_ | I'm installing linux |
| 06:41:00 | CheeseBurgerMan | :D |
| 06:41:02 | CheeseBurgerMan | What distro? |
| 06:41:09 | Jungti1234_ | It's slow |
| 06:42:03 | Jungti1234_ | distro? |
| 06:42:28 | CheeseBurgerMan | version of linux |
| 06:42:32 | Jungti1234_ | ah |
| 06:42:34 | Jungti1234_ | redhat 9.0 |
| 06:42:38 | CheeseBurgerMan | OK |
| 06:45:03 | DMJC | when the site says usb handling = 0% |
| 06:45:09 | DMJC | does USB not work at all? |
| 06:45:22 | DMJC | or is it just the new usb features haven't been touched? |
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| 06:47:54 | Jungti1234_ | wow |
| 06:48:13 | Jungti1234_ | new build |
| 06:52:35 | JdGordon | new build has audio :D |
| 06:52:47 | Jungti1234_ | yeah |
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| 07:16:24 | JdGordon41 | can any1 help me with the rockbox dev kit? |
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| 07:54:08 | JdGordon | y doesnt sudoku compile for the h300 :( |
| 07:55:45 | Jungti1234 | Korean H300 users are uproar. |
| 07:58:07 | Jungti1234 | They are doing all patches. |
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| 08:00:16 | ashridah | patches for? |
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| 08:01:13 | Jungti1234 | Bootloader and firmware |
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| 08:02:29 | Jungti1234 | They patch to listen to music. |
| 08:03:01 | Jungti1234 | They like rockbox than iriver. ;) |
| 08:03:58 | ashridah | i meant what do the patches do |
| 08:04:19 | Jungti1234 | They patch to listen to music. |
| 08:04:19 | ashridah | JdGordon: it won't build if the conditions in apps/plugins/SOURCES don't get met for that .c file |
| 08:04:51 | Jungti1234 | And to use more functions . |
| 08:04:54 | CheeseBurgerMan | I think he means they're patching the iRiver firmware with the Rockbox bootloader. |
| 08:05:02 | JdGordon | ok, thanx |
| 08:05:05 | ashridah | ah |
| 08:05:14 | ashridah | that makes more sense :) |
| 08:05:16 | Jungti1234 | understand? |
| 08:05:24 | ashridah | yeah |
| 08:05:33 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 08:05:55 | Jungti1234 | Is hard to make understood you. |
| 08:06:12 | Jungti1234 | and everybody. |
| 08:06:22 | ashridah | Jungti1234: i'm doing two things at once. tends to make me pay less attention |
| 08:07:20 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 08:07:26 | CheeseBurgerMan | No, I can understand you. :) |
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| 08:08:00 | Jungti1234 | thanks :) |
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| 08:08:56 | Jungti1234 | LINUX is installing during 10 hours. |
| 08:09:08 | CheeseBurgerMan | Hope you have time. ;) |
| 08:09:23 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 08:09:35 | Jungti1234 | I'm busy. |
| 08:11:24 | Jungti1234 | LINUX disturbs my work. |
| 08:13:05 | JdGordon | what is BUTTON_MODE on the h300? |
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| 08:35:05 | JdGordon | any1 know if it is safe to press reset while the h300 is doing the "disconnected" screen after unplugging the usb cable? |
| 08:37:22 | ashridah | for iriver's firmware? all it's doing is reading the disk afaik |
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| 08:41:02 | andrewmel | another to boot with rockbox, 1.28 K on an international H320. Music plays fine. |
| 08:46:02 | DreamTactix291 | :D |
| 08:50:52 | perplexity | Woo.. H340 International with Bootloader V2 and 1.28EU software works boots and plays |
| 08:53:58 | andrewmel | one tiny little click in the "gap" |
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| 08:58:04 | JdGordon | fuck i hate solatiare... got the entire thing out cept the 4 of clubs is under a Q i cant move :'( |
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| 09:03:20 | aliask|work | What's the flickering in the WPS due to? |
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| 09:04:46 | perplexity | Hrm.. the default non-display remote that came with my h340 is stuck on Hold so none of the buttons work.. I'm *sure* it's a known problem though :) |
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| 09:20:26 | perplexity | Ok, I'm sold.. Rockbox does not look as pretty, nor is it as intuitive as the default iriver firmware (I do believe it needs a re6stricted newbie type mode), but it's features and audio playback more than make up for all of that (And I have not even got to the plugins and other fruit yet). |
| 09:20:53 | JdGordon | haha |
| 09:21:09 | DreamTactix291 | actually |
| 09:21:14 | DreamTactix291 | after you use rockbox for a while |
| 09:21:15 | DreamTactix291 | like months |
| 09:21:20 | DreamTactix291 | then you like it more than the iriver firmware |
| 09:21:24 | DreamTactix291 | at least it's the case for me |
| 09:21:35 | DreamTactix291 | for interface |
| 09:21:40 | perplexity | I already do.. but <DreamTactix291> after you use rockbox for a while <−− this is the bit about intuitave.. |
| 09:22:00 | JdGordon | i like it.. cept 1 really annoying thing for me... when a song is playing, and u accidently press NAVI u cant cancel the song browsing... |
| 09:22:20 | perplexity | Press the play button |
| 09:23:22 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 09:23:33 | JdGordon | haha.. bloody helll.. thanx |
| 09:23:43 | * | JdGordon thinks thats a damn silly button assignment :p |
| 09:23:58 | perplexity | I just kept pressing buttons until it did what I wanted :) |
| 09:24:39 | DreamTactix291 | i'm used to it now lol |
| 09:24:44 | DreamTactix291 | took me a while to figure it out i admit |
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| 09:25:10 | JdGordon | now all we need is a good wps :D |
| 09:25:21 | JdGordon | and a more colourfull background :p |
| 09:25:24 | Membrillo | is there a H3xx bootloader changelog? |
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| 09:25:35 | DreamTactix291 | you guys have colours :P |
| 09:25:37 | DreamTactix291 | we don't :) |
| 09:25:45 | JdGordon | yes wee do :D |
| 09:25:54 | JdGordon | the blue is too "ipody" :p |
| 09:26:21 | JdGordon | Membrillo: iirc the major thing that changed was the DAC got reset.. or something like that |
| 09:26:22 | DreamTactix291 | that's an insult to the H1xx :P |
| 09:26:33 | JdGordon | apparently the audio might work without upgrading it |
| 09:27:11 | perplexity | It can be intermittent depending on the state the DAC comes up in.. works every couple of boots if you don't upgrade the bootloader.. |
| 09:27:24 | ashridah | iirc, there was a fix to the audio output hardware in the bootloader, so it might be buggy still |
| 09:28:16 | perplexity | Oh, and Pink Floyds Pulse, encoded using LAME with no special settings as mp3's is so close to being gapless I nearly made a mess in my trousers.. The iriver firmware waits until one track is almost finished before it spins up the disk to load the next.. I love Rockbox's buffering |
| 09:28:59 | JdGordon | haha |
| 09:29:11 | JdGordon | any1 know the lcd dimensions of the h300? |
| 09:29:13 | DreamTactix291 | it'll be fully gapless before you know it |
| 09:29:20 | JdGordon | i wanna get the sudoku plugin ported |
| 09:29:25 | DreamTactix291 | and you don't ever have to modify modern LAME for gapless |
| 09:29:37 | perplexity | My only spotted quirks so far are with my remote (I can live without that) and while scrolling through lists of stuff the audio buffer runs out of steam and it pauses/skips.. |
| 09:29:48 | JdGordon | perplexity: how much buffering have u set it to? ive just set it to 10min which should be more than enough |
| 09:29:52 | perplexity | DreamTactix291: Oh neato.. thanks.. |
| 09:29:57 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
| 09:30:02 | DreamTactix291 | any LAME from 3.90.1 or after |
| 09:30:21 | Membrillo | i think i might put rb on my International H3xx 1.28K right now |
| 09:30:39 | Membrillo | ive heard good reports and nothing bad |
| 09:30:43 | perplexity | I don't know JdGordon, but it seems to use all available ram for buffers. info->debug->view audio thread gives me nearly 30mb of buffered mp3 and 512k of PCM buffer.. loads |
| 09:30:58 | Membrillo | I shall report back |
| 09:31:08 | JdGordon | hmm.. ok, well it only has 32mb ram so your using the lot.. |
| 09:31:09 | ghode|afk | hmm when did linus comit audio playback for the h300? |
| 09:31:14 | JdGordon | this morning |
| 09:31:41 | Membrillo | its pretty glitchy audio though right? |
| 09:31:45 | perplexity | Yep.. it's great.. the subtle click between tracks is so much better than the .5-1.5 second pause the iriver firmware gives.. |
| 09:31:49 | Membrillo | so i asume |
| 09:32:08 | perplexity | Actually Membrillo, here now I'm in love with it.. as long as you are not doing something like scrolling menus, it's perfect |
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| 09:32:19 | Membrillo | super |
| 09:32:28 | ghode|afk | hmm |
| 09:32:35 | Membrillo | i have a maths assignment to finish then ill whack it on |
| 09:32:36 | ghode|afk | perplexity: do you have dircache turned on? |
| 09:32:41 | perplexity | Nope.. |
| 09:32:59 | Membrillo | Polynomials >:-( |
| 09:33:04 | perplexity | The bit I _really_ love is 8 seconds from power button to music with resume turned on.. no other button presses required.. |
| 09:33:04 | ghode|afk | turn it on |
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| 09:33:26 | ashridah | perplexity: turn on the directory cache, it does make things nicer. |
| 09:33:28 | ghode|afk | that should be lower with dircache turned on :p |
| 09:34:29 | ashridah | not sure it's going to help the startup time |
| 09:34:37 | perplexity | Ok.. *newbie alert* .. where is it in the menu ? |
| 09:34:48 | JdGordon | ashridah: ye, but it kills the load time :( |
| 09:34:59 | JdGordon | press a-b |
| 09:35:22 | amiconn | It doesn't |
| 09:35:37 | amiconn | Just the very first time after enabling it is slower |
| 09:35:50 | perplexity | yes.. I have the menu, but where is it ? |
| 09:35:51 | amiconn | Subsequent boots build the cache in the background |
| 09:36:26 | * | JdGordon is testing... |
| 09:36:54 | amiconn | General Settings->System->Disk->Directory Cache |
| 09:36:58 | perplexity | Found it General Settings->System->Disk->Directory Cache |
| 09:37:11 | amiconn | Too slow :P |
| 09:37:39 | JdGordon | ah... so it does... my apoliogies :D |
| 09:37:52 | perplexity | Hrm.. did not appear to slow down the 1st boot after enabling it.. |
| 09:38:34 | JdGordon | u got any files on it ? :p |
| 09:38:38 | perplexity | Still 8 seconds from power to sound.. |
| 09:38:46 | perplexity | Only about 2-3k files |
| 09:39:08 | perplexity | And scrolling still kills audio playback.. |
| 09:39:19 | Slasher | perplexity: did you get a message "Scanning disk..." when you rebooted your unit? |
| 09:39:32 | Slasher | Or check from the debug menu if the cache really is enabled |
| 09:39:36 | perplexity | Hrm.. was not looking to be honest.. too busy with the stopwatch :) |
| 09:40:12 | perplexity | Yep.. it's enabled.. Cache size: 187273 B. Scanning took : 9S |
| 09:40:22 | Slasher | ah, looks good |
| 09:41:13 | perplexity | 4s from power to rockbox splash.. another 4s to actual sound.. I'm not complaining at all, that is lighning quick really |
| 09:42:22 | perplexity | Ahh.. if I hit Navi and then just hold the - button (to scroll down) even when it's not scrolling, audio stops after about 3s and starts about 500ms after I release the key |
| 09:42:55 | JdGordon | haha i love that u can play games while the music is going :D |
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| 09:43:42 | JdGordon | perplexity: the cpu is stuck to 90mhz atm coz audio at full sped doesnt work... which is prob why that happens |
| 09:44:29 | perplexity | Yeah.. possibly so.. we will see if that improves as the firmware catches up with the hardware quirks :) |
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| 09:45:48 | Acksaw | hey guy |
| 09:45:50 | Acksaw | s |
| 09:47:00 | JdGordon | any1 know where LCD_HEIGHT is defined? |
| 09:48:09 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 09:49:43 | JdGordon | or where lcd.h is in the source? |
| 09:50:50 | ashridah | JdGordon: does your build environment have grep and find handy? |
| 09:51:13 | JdGordon | dunno.. prob... found it.. |
| 09:51:18 | ashridah | because grep -r LCD_HEIGHT * will find every file that contains LCD_HEIGHT in the current directory and below. |
| 09:51:43 | ashridah | and find . -name lcd.h will find every file named lcd.h from the current directory and below |
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| 09:57:46 | JdGordon | giggedy giggedy :D i got sudoku compiling for the h300 :D |
| 09:58:05 | ashridah | much modification needed? |
| 09:58:23 | JdGordon | no, havnt tested it tho |
| 09:58:46 | JdGordon | any1 got an .ss file for it? |
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| 10:00:19 | ghode|afk | does anyone use len0x's builds for the h100? |
| 10:00:19 | JdGordon | or know what player it normally works on |
| 10:00:44 | Bger | JdGordon: there was a link in the wiki |
| 10:01:06 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginSudoku |
| 10:01:19 | JdGordon | thanx |
| 10:01:51 | * | Bger woke up and was pleased to see linus' activity |
| 10:02:13 | JdGordon | good to hear :D |
| 10:02:46 | Bger | yep |
| 10:03:18 | JdGordon | almost works :p just need to make the graphics veiwable |
| 10:03:30 | Bger | yep |
| 10:04:05 | * | Bger goes to compile |
| 10:04:38 | Bger | btw, what was the cvs's env to set up an repository |
| 10:05:03 | ashridah | setup a repo? CVSROOT=/path/to/repo |
| 10:05:15 | Bger | ah, 10x |
| 10:05:18 | Acksaw | i forget what i need to upgrade my bootloader |
| 10:05:23 | Acksaw | fwpatcher? |
| 10:05:26 | Bger | yes |
| 10:05:34 | Bger | and original firmware |
| 10:05:38 | Acksaw | thats it? |
| 10:06:00 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot#Direct_links_for_H320_and_H340 |
| 10:06:01 | ashridah | yep |
| 10:06:15 | Acksaw | i just did tht and it still saying version 1 |
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| 10:06:38 | Acksaw | do i need the.. |
| 10:06:43 | ashridah | Acksaw: did you actually flash the player with the modified .hex? |
| 10:06:45 | Acksaw | bootloader-h300.bin |
| 10:06:47 | Acksaw | yes ash |
| 10:06:48 | Bger | you need to reflash |
| 10:06:54 | Acksaw | hmm ill try again |
| 10:07:10 | Acksaw | do i need this? bootloader-h300.bin ? |
| 10:07:15 | ashridah | Acksaw: fwpatcher contains a copy of bootloader-h300.bin |
| 10:07:29 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 10:07:29 | Acksaw | thanks |
| 10:07:31 | Acksaw | ill try again then |
| 10:08:06 | Acksaw | whats changed in the bootloader/daily build? |
| 10:09:26 | Acksaw | i cant connect |
| 10:09:28 | Acksaw | to my pc |
| 10:09:43 | Acksaw | SHIT |
| 10:09:54 | Bger | what do you mean ? |
| 10:10:02 | Acksaw | i plug in the usb |
| 10:10:04 | Acksaw | to my iriver |
| 10:10:06 | Acksaw | and nothing happens |
| 10:10:10 | Acksaw | ill try reset |
| 10:10:21 | perplexity | I had to boot into the iriver firmware first.. then it just worked as normal |
| 10:10:26 | JdGordon | hold on and press reset twice |
| 10:10:30 | Acksaw | ok |
| 10:10:30 | Acksaw | thanks |
| 10:10:34 | JdGordon | i tihnk hat fixed it for some1 else this morning |
| 10:10:47 | Acksaw | yeh ill try perplexity ways first |
| 10:10:52 | Bger | H3xx Bootloader v2 is out. |
| 10:10:52 | Bger | * Proper UDA1380 reset |
| 10:11:01 | Acksaw | that worked per |
| 10:11:03 | Acksaw | thanks dude |
| 10:11:06 | perplexity | woot! |
| 10:11:25 | Acksaw | if ya were a girl id kiss ya |
| 10:11:38 | Bger | lol |
| 10:11:39 | perplexity | Err.. yeah.. but I'm not ;) |
| 10:11:59 | perplexity | Having said that 90% of the lamers on undernet think I am.. had some sensational offers :) |
| 10:12:32 | Acksaw | ok |
| 10:12:38 | Acksaw | this file seems a bit larger |
| 10:13:15 | Bger | perplexity maybe because of the way your nick sounds |
| 10:13:19 | Acksaw | indeed |
| 10:13:44 | JdGordon | talking menus doesnt work..? |
| 10:13:51 | Acksaw | ok |
| 10:13:53 | Acksaw | attempt 2 |
| 10:14:02 | Bger | JdGordon do you have voice files ? |
| 10:14:20 | JdGordon | i think so |
| 10:14:22 | Acksaw | version 1 stil... |
| 10:14:25 | perplexity | Bger: exactly so :p). I just send them off to www.dictionary.com |
| 10:14:46 | Bger | hahaa |
| 10:14:47 | JdGordon | grr... y the heck is the .rockbox folder hidden :'( |
| 10:14:56 | Acksaw | hmm |
| 10:15:00 | Acksaw | why is it still saying version 1? |
| 10:15:19 | perplexity | Did you flash the firmware Acksaw ? |
| 10:15:23 | Acksaw | yes |
| 10:15:24 | Acksaw | just now |
| 10:15:28 | JdGordon | Bger: where should the sound files be kept? |
| 10:15:28 | Bger | Acksaw i guess linus has forgotten to change the string version :) |
| 10:15:48 | perplexity | Nope.. it says "Version 2" |
| 10:15:52 | Acksaw | ffs |
| 10:16:02 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceFiles |
| 10:16:04 | Acksaw | perplex could you send me your hex? |
| 10:16:07 | perplexity | In which case .. I'd wager that the bootloader.bin in the fwpatcher is the old one.. |
| 10:16:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's really odd. |
| 10:16:14 | Acksaw | hmm |
| 10:16:14 | Acksaw | maybe |
| 10:16:22 | perplexity | I'd lay a huge bet on it.. |
| 10:16:22 | Acksaw | ive downloaded the new one twice |
| 10:16:30 | Bger | hm.... |
| 10:16:35 | perplexity | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverBoot/bootloader-h300.bin <−− that one? |
| 10:16:42 | Acksaw | no |
| 10:16:44 | Acksaw | i download the patcher |
| 10:16:50 | Bger | which ver ? |
| 10:16:52 | JdGordon | if your usinf fwpatcher u dont need bootloader.bin... |
| 10:16:58 | perplexity | Ahh.. replace the bootloader.bin in the patcher with that one.. |
| 10:17:02 | Bger | unicode or non-unicode |
| 10:17:15 | perplexity | Yes JdGordon, but assuming that the patcher has been updated with the new bootloader |
| 10:17:17 | Acksaw | per how? |
| 10:17:25 | Acksaw | bdger |
| 10:17:27 | JdGordon | ah, i did it with the non uniocde 1 |
| 10:17:27 | perplexity | I've no idea.. I use linux myself |
| 10:17:40 | Acksaw | i downloaded the fwpatcher on the usual iriverboot page |
| 10:17:43 | perplexity | Are you after the EU or K firmware Acksaw ? |
| 10:17:50 | Acksaw | K |
| 10:18:14 | perplexity | Sorry, I only have the EU version patched here.. (it's what I use) |
| 10:18:15 | Bger | uf, this firmware upgrading is frightening |
| 10:18:28 | Bger | hm, ok, my bootloder is ver 2 |
| 10:18:33 | Bger | and i used fwpatcher |
| 10:18:42 | perplexity | Then you are set Bger :) |
| 10:18:50 | JdGordon | time to rock n roll... |
| 10:19:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, fwpatcher does V2 |
| 10:19:11 | Bger | Gentlemen, we have sound :)))) |
| 10:19:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Acksaw, what exactly are the steps you take? |
| 10:19:20 | Acksaw | ok |
| 10:19:20 | perplexity | Better than that, we have _music_ |
| 10:19:27 | Acksaw | i downloaded the daily build |
| 10:19:33 | Acksaw | unzipped to my player |
| 10:19:39 | Acksaw | overwriting the old files |
| 10:19:49 | perplexity | Oh, that fade out/in when you pause/unpause is just so smooth.. it's almost apple like |
| 10:19:52 | Acksaw | i then downloaded fwpatcher and the official 1,28k firmware |
| 10:20:05 | Acksaw | i patched the firmware and put the hex onto my iriver |
| 10:20:07 | Bger | perplexity this is tradition ... |
| 10:20:11 | Acksaw | and ungraded |
| 10:20:18 | * | Bger goes crazy |
| 10:20:38 | Bger | so i'll probably edit button mappings on the remote today .. |
| 10:20:45 | * | JdGordon hates the stupid fade when un/puasing |
| 10:20:48 | Bger | (to match h300's one) |
| 10:20:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can disable it JdGordon |
| 10:20:56 | Bger | JdGordon stop it then |
| 10:20:58 | Acksaw | [i~%p -97u28n]i- |
| 10:21:00 | perplexity | Tell ya what Acksaw, I'll generate a 1.28K hex for you and put it on a website if you promise not to hold be responsible if it bricks your player ;p) |
| 10:21:10 | JdGordon | its easier to just not puase the music: D |
| 10:21:13 | Bger | perplexity the problem is other |
| 10:21:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Acksaw does the checksum match that listed on the IriverBoot page? |
| 10:21:29 | Bger | i patched the firmware with fwpatcher and it's ok |
| 10:21:48 | | Part Acksaw |
| 10:22:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or you could do that... |
| 10:23:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's gonna turn out to be something crazy like... I dunno... the browser not actually re-downloading fwpatcher.exe but loading it from temporary internet files, or something. |
| 10:23:34 | JdGordon | thats easy to fix |
| 10:23:43 | Bger | perplexity: see http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-05/0016.shtml |
| 10:23:53 | perplexity | 2002 ?!? |
| 10:23:59 | Bger | yes |
| 10:24:12 | Bger | this has been the first sound rockbox ever played (on archos) |
| 10:24:37 | perplexity | err.. yes.. umm.. and? |
| 10:25:05 | Bger | linus writes such mail for every new platform |
| 10:25:15 | | Quit ^BeN^ (Connection timed out) |
| 10:25:28 | perplexity | Oh, I know.. I have been following the list archives.. I get the significance of the "Gentlemen" bit.. |
| 10:26:01 | Bger | ;) |
| 10:26:29 | | Quit nevs27 (Remote closed the connection) |
| 10:27:38 | Bger | btw, this 90MHz are not enough for ogg @ ~250kbps ... |
| 10:27:53 | Bger | s/this/these |
| 10:27:54 | aliask | The 90mhz cap is there for a reason though. |
| 10:28:01 | Bger | yes, i know |
| 10:28:09 | Bger | there is a problem with the button driver |
| 10:28:14 | Bger | above this freq... |
| 10:28:15 | aliask | Yeah |
| 10:28:32 | aliask | I havn't noticed any problems with it yet thankfully though. |
| 10:28:59 | Bger | hm, is rockbox ok with -q10 ogg files without this cap ? |
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| 10:31:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've played Q8 oggs without a problem. Dunno about Q10 |
| 10:32:34 | Bger | you have ?... |
| 10:32:36 | Bger | very weird |
| 10:32:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, on H120 Rockbox |
| 10:32:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which is essentially "rockbox without the cap" |
| 10:32:54 | Bger | ah, ok :) |
| 10:33:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Since the processor's the same, any differences in decoding should be due to bugs, or the 90mhz limit, right? |
| 10:34:16 | Bger | yes |
| 10:34:25 | Bger | but it's ... strange |
| 10:34:32 | Bger | ok, these files are -q 7 iirc |
| 10:34:46 | Bger | and 90MHz aren't enough |
| 10:34:55 | perplexity | What does your boost ratio in the View Audio Thread debug menu sit at while playing those oggs ? |
| 10:35:03 | Bger | i'll see |
| 10:35:37 | perplexity | I would guess 100% if the cpu is too slow.. Paul_The_Nerd: can you test that on your 120? |
| 10:35:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Lemme make a q10 ogg, and I'll play it and let you know how it goes. |
| 10:36:07 | Bger | 100% :) |
| 10:36:13 | perplexity | cha-ching.. |
| 10:36:43 | perplexity | I don't have any oggs here, so I can't test.. my VBR (max 320k) mp3's sit at 45% |
| 10:36:55 | Bger | mp3 is ok, perplexity |
| 10:37:07 | Bger | 128kbps nearly doesn't boost @ 45MHz |
| 10:37:09 | perplexity | Oh I know.. I was mainly stating for comment |
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| 10:37:46 | * | Bger goes to turn on dircache |
| 10:37:53 | perplexity | Hrm.. I don't think I even have 128k mp3's anymore.. All mine are encoded best quality,highest bitrate VBR in LAME |
| 10:37:57 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is creating a -q10 ogg now |
| 10:38:20 | perplexity | Now I can play FLAC I might even move to that |
| 10:38:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | FLAC doesn't boost |
| 10:39:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's apparently now the most efficient codec |
| 10:39:04 | perplexity | Even better.. but there would be a tradeoff on hard disk access, so you win some/lose some I guess |
| 10:40:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | 477k Q10 ogg, less than 100% boost ratio |
| 10:40:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's about 85% right now |
| 10:40:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | 88% |
| 10:40:52 | perplexity | hrm.. can you upload it somewhere we can download and test? or dcc it? |
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| 10:41:23 | perplexity | I'd guess 88% at 90Mhz is just gonna be a smidgen too slow.. |
| 10:41:33 | | Part moda|lap |
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| 10:42:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | One sec |
| 10:42:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | 88% at 120mhz by the way |
| 10:42:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, 124 or whatever |
| 10:42:52 | moda|lap | where can i get themes for h300 rockbox? or themes at all? |
| 10:43:04 | perplexity | yeah.. that is what I meant.. 88% at 120 is going to exceed 100% at 90.. in theory anyway |
| 10:43:06 | Bger | moda|lap |
| 10:43:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://66.68.93.2/sth.ogg but it's a 28mb file. |
| 10:43:22 | Jungti1234 | After a while will come. |
| 10:43:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, broadband or bust. :-P |
| 10:43:26 | | Quit Jungti1234 ("Bye~ - http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300") |
| 10:43:31 | moda|lap | yes Bger? |
| 10:43:45 | perplexity | Ta.. I'll have it in 30 mins.. |
| 10:43:55 | Bger | moda|lap http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall |
| 10:44:51 | moda|lap | i dont get it... |
| 10:44:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, it probably won't work at 90mhz. But that just gives them more incentive to optimize, optimize, optimize. ;-) |
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| 10:45:00 | moda|lap | ive installed rockbox, works like a treat |
| 10:45:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or just fix whatever's making it unstable at 120 |
| 10:45:23 | perplexity | I was thinking about that.. perhaps re-writing some bits of the codec in asm.. but then it becomes platform specific.. |
| 10:45:24 | | Quit skorpyon_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 10:46:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but you encapsulate that in #ifdefs and then leave the platform agnostic code in the other case. |
| 10:46:53 | perplexity | yes.. I have never really done any profiling on code before, so I guess reading up on that would be a good idea to try and figure out where the hotspots are.. |
| 10:47:22 | perplexity | The extent of my asm optimisation has really been PIC, HC11 and 8051.. so the Coldfire is really a bi of a step up :) |
| 10:47:24 | Bger | oh, moda|lap, sorry |
| 10:47:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 10:48:51 | perplexity | This is where we need qemu to emulate the h300 hardware, then we can run it under the m68k emulator and get an accurate profile of the code :) Sounds like some good stuff to do in my copious quantities of spare time :| |
| 10:49:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 10:49:01 | ashridah | perplexity: there are various routines that are common to audio processing that can usefully be optimised. preglow would be the person to chat to there |
| 10:49:46 | ashridah | the coldfire cpu has a number of extra instructions (on top of what the m68k range normally provides) that gcc won't use, so writing asm isn't a bad idea, as long as it's well documented and maintainable |
| 10:50:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did the vorbis decoder get optimized iram useage like some of the others, or since it was already realtime did it get left alone? |
| 10:50:22 | ashridah | Paul_The_Nerd: it got some optimisations |
| 10:50:30 | ashridah | none of the codecs ran in realtime initially. |
| 10:50:33 | Bger | moda|lap i suggest u to look at the files in ./rockbox/themes or sth like this |
| 10:50:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I meant recently |
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| 10:51:04 | Acksaw | bger still here? |
| 10:51:09 | Bger | yes |
| 10:51:12 | Acksaw | ok |
| 10:51:14 | Acksaw | soi |
| 10:51:26 | Acksaw | my dad pulled out my router. |
| 10:51:27 | Acksaw | cock. |
| 10:51:31 | Bger | hehe |
| 10:51:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Acksaw, another question, what was the checksum on the patched firmware? |
| 10:51:37 | Acksaw | any ideas what i need to do? |
| 10:51:43 | Acksaw | how do i find out? |
| 10:51:52 | ashridah | Paul_The_Nerd: i don't know anyone's really worked on it since it went realtime |
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| 10:52:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Acksaw there's a variety of programs, I think md5sum is commonly used, that can tell you the md5 checksum of a file. |
| 10:52:52 | Acksaw | hmm |
| 10:52:52 | Acksaw | too much hassle |
| 10:52:56 | Bger | not so |
| 10:52:57 | Acksaw | i think its just the bootloader? |
| 10:53:12 | Bger | Acksaw |
| 10:53:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well see, that would tell us if the bootloader you've got is the right one |
| 10:53:24 | Acksaw | yes? |
| 10:53:25 | Bger | i suggest you to do the following |
| 10:53:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because if it's not patching properly, the checksum would be wrong. |
| 10:53:34 | Bger | 1) if you have proxy and you use it, disable it |
| 10:53:47 | Bger | 2) download the unicode ver of firmware patcher |
| 10:53:54 | Acksaw | how do i do that? |
| 10:54:06 | Bger | what do u use |
| 10:54:21 | Bger | for downloadign |
| 10:54:27 | Acksaw | firefox |
| 10:54:27 | Bger | downloading |
| 10:54:45 | Acksaw | the firefox one? |
| 10:54:59 | Bger | yes |
| 10:55:10 | Bger | turn off the proxy if you have one |
| 10:55:19 | Bger | (but i don't think this is the problem) |
| 10:55:47 | Bger | after that use the fresh fwpatcher and patch non-modified H300.hex |
| 10:55:47 | Acksaw | im just gonna try to flash again |
| 10:55:52 | Bger | w8 |
| 10:56:05 | Bger | after that |
| 10:56:22 | Bger | download rockbox |
| 10:56:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it's not working, and it's not worked after flashing 2 or 3 times, flashing again isn't going to help |
| 10:56:27 | Acksaw | link? |
| 10:56:30 | Bger | sec |
| 10:56:35 | ashridah | Acksaw: there's not much point in just reflashing over and over, all you'll do is move one more flash cycle closer to the death of the flash rom :) |
| 10:56:41 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 10:56:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's really key to verify that the file, after you patch it with fwpatcher, is correct. |
| 10:56:59 | Acksaw | thats what i didnt do! |
| 10:57:03 | Acksaw | i didnt do that! |
| 10:57:06 | Bger | after you have patched h300.hex and putted rockbox |
| 10:57:24 | | Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 10:57:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | That rockbox.zip has nothing to do with the bootloader though. |
| 10:57:37 | Acksaw | ah |
| 10:57:45 | | Join andrewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-98-197.TAS.netspace.net.au) |
| 10:57:49 | Bger | (which means extracting it to the root directory of your player and overwriting files) |
| 10:57:57 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, i know |
| 10:58:16 | Bger | Acksaw: did you do all this ? |
| 10:58:28 | Acksaw | doing it now |
| 10:58:33 | Bger | ok |
| 10:59:01 | Bger | after this put your h300.hex in the ROOT directory of your player, overwriting the old one |
| 10:59:06 | Acksaw | yeh |
| 10:59:10 | Acksaw | just patching now |
| 10:59:13 | | Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s208a.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 10:59:25 | Bger | after this disconnect the player ... but using the windows's stuff first |
| 10:59:57 | Bger | to be sure that all changes will be written on the player's hard disk |
| 11:00 |
| 11:00:06 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:00:09 | Acksaw | the hex is on the root |
| 11:00:17 | Acksaw | and extracting rockbox.zip |
| 11:00:26 | perplexity | is it the *only* *.hex file in the root ? |
| 11:00:33 | Bger | and the next step is booting the iriver firmware |
| 11:00:35 | Acksaw | and the rockbox zip |
| 11:00:41 | Bger | w8, w8 |
| 11:00:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | How big is the .hex? |
| 11:00:50 | Bger | you don't put rockbox.zip on the root |
| 11:00:54 | Bger | about.. hm |
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| 11:01:03 | Bger | 4MNB |
| 11:01:04 | Acksaw | i usually put it on the root? |
| 11:01:07 | Acksaw | i was told to |
| 11:01:22 | Bger | no, you extract it in the root |
| 11:01:31 | Acksaw | i have |
| 11:01:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | I meant how big is Acksaw's .hex |
| 11:01:38 | Acksaw | about 4mb |
| 11:01:52 | Acksaw | im upgrading fw now |
| 11:01:55 | Bger | ok |
| 11:02:02 | Acksaw | if it works ill need to put the daily build on? |
| 11:02:24 | | Quit ^Guest37784 (Connection timed out) |
| 11:02:37 | Bger | Acksaw if you have extracted the rockbox.zip i gave you to the root folder, u'll have rockbox |
| 11:02:39 | Acksaw | still upgrading... |
| 11:02:44 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:02:46 | Acksaw | test time |
| 11:02:47 | Bger | it's slow, relax |
| 11:02:55 | Acksaw | ARGH |
| 11:03:00 | Acksaw | version 1 STILL |
| 11:03:03 | Bger | what?? |
| 11:03:05 | Acksaw | :'( |
| 11:03:06 | Bger | grr |
| 11:03:09 | Bger | very strange |
| 11:03:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, could you please MD5sum the hex? |
| 11:03:18 | Acksaw | paul how? |
| 11:03:33 | Acksaw | also |
| 11:03:35 | Bger | http://www.etree.org/md5com.html <= like this |
| 11:03:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe |
| 11:03:39 | Acksaw | if this sheds any light |
| 11:03:44 | Acksaw | i cant connect to the pc |
| 11:03:45 | perplexity | Oh it will.. |
| 11:03:50 | Acksaw | without first booting iriver |
| 11:03:54 | Acksaw | and turning off |
| 11:03:57 | Acksaw | then connecting |
| 11:03:57 | aliask | Damn you guys, you beat me to pasting that link |
| 11:03:58 | perplexity | yeah.. have that here also.. |
| 11:04:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's a current bug Acksaw |
| 11:04:09 | perplexity | Known bugs |
| 11:04:09 | perplexity | H300: No USB mode yet |
| 11:04:14 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 11:04:19 | Acksaw | maybe if i try reset? |
| 11:04:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | But get the md5sum.exe |
| 11:04:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Put it in the folder with the .hex |
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| 11:04:41 | perplexity | _please_ md5sum the file.. that *will* tell us if it's right or not |
| 11:04:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | And at the command prompt run "md5sum h300.hex" and tell us what the result is. |
| 11:05:05 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:05:13 | Acksaw | so i got md5sum now |
| 11:05:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:05:31 | perplexity | is it this −−> d693e80025fbc5530ce031a5ee414c82 ?? |
| 11:05:43 | Acksaw | i ned to put it onto the root of my iriver? |
| 11:05:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | That works |
| 11:06:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | What drive is your iriver? Like, D:, E:, F:? |
| 11:06:14 | Acksaw | e |
| 11:06:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, after you've put it there |
| 11:06:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Choose Start->Run |
| 11:06:27 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:06:31 | Bger | d693e80025fbc5530ce031a5ee414c82 *H300.hex |
| 11:06:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | And type "cmd" without quotes |
| 11:06:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | then at the prompt type E: |
| 11:06:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then "md5sum h300.hex" again without the quotes |
| 11:06:48 | Acksaw | done |
| 11:06:52 | Bger | and ? |
| 11:06:55 | Bger | paste the result |
| 11:07:10 | Acksaw | i cant copy it |
| 11:07:11 | Bger | what firmware ver do you use |
| 11:07:14 | Bger | heh |
| 11:07:14 | Acksaw | ill write it hold up |
| 11:07:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | It needs to be *exactly* the same as what Bger pasted right htere |
| 11:07:15 | Bger | u can |
| 11:07:16 | Acksaw | i use k |
| 11:07:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you use 1.28k |
| 11:07:26 | Acksaw | mine starts with 11 |
| 11:07:30 | Bger | bad .... |
| 11:07:31 | perplexity | well then.. |
| 11:07:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | 1145f86482724e79b3bea603a22dda0e |
| 11:07:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's V1 |
| 11:07:48 | Acksaw | yes |
| 11:07:50 | Bger | h, Acksaw, are you sure u paste the FILE YOU PATCH to the iriver ? |
| 11:07:51 | Acksaw | thats what i got |
| 11:07:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Your FWpatcher is not the new one |
| 11:07:59 | Acksaw | yes im sure |
| 11:08:06 | Bger | and use the new fwpatcher ? |
| 11:08:06 | perplexity | 1145f86482724e79b3bea603a22dda0e <−− this one ? |
| 11:08:09 | Acksaw | im downloadiung it from the iriverboot |
| 11:08:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's V1 |
| 11:08:19 | Acksaw | thats why then |
| 11:08:19 | perplexity | damn you are just too fast Paul_The_Nerd :p) |
| 11:08:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | I downloaded it from iriverboot, patched a *fresh* firmware, and it comes up with the proper one |
| 11:08:28 | Bger | ok, i'll get the md5sum on the fwpatcher |
| 11:08:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bger, that's the V1 sum for sure |
| 11:08:41 | Bger | 5a9c547c3f438e5e8239ffb4a788a341 *fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:08:51 | moda|lap | do we have any themes/wps's for h300 yet? |
| 11:08:51 | Acksaw | im so confused |
| 11:08:55 | Bger | so you must have fwpatcher with this md5sum |
| 11:09:05 | Acksaw | im real confused.. |
| 11:09:12 | Bger | Acksaw |
| 11:09:16 | moda|lap | and btw, where do i get rockboy? |
| 11:09:18 | Acksaw | i dont understand all this technical stuff :'( |
| 11:09:30 | Bger | Acksaw: ok ... |
| 11:09:35 | perplexity | It's installed by default moda|lap .. just browse to one of your gameboy roms |
| 11:09:38 | Bger | make a new folder on your C:\ |
| 11:09:40 | Bger | for example |
| 11:09:47 | Acksaw | why? |
| 11:09:48 | Bger | iriver |
| 11:09:52 | Bger | c:\iriver |
| 11:09:56 | Bger | put there md5sum.exe |
| 11:10:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | htt://66.68.93.2/h300.hex |
| 11:10:03 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:10:04 | moda|lap | perplexity: so i just stick gameboy roms onto my iriver and execute them, and rockboy should load? |
| 11:10:06 | Bger | h300.hex (unmodified) |
| 11:10:08 | Bger | eh, ok |
| 11:10:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://66.68.93.2/h300.hex |
| 11:10:12 | perplexity | I believe so moda|lap |
| 11:10:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you trust me, that's a properly patched one |
| 11:10:14 | moda|lap | ahh |
| 11:10:15 | Acksaw | hopld up |
| 11:10:16 | Bger | use the link Paul_The_Nerd gave you |
| 11:10:17 | Acksaw | hold u[ |
| 11:10:19 | moda|lap | do they support color? |
| 11:10:19 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:10:25 | perplexity | no moda|lap |
| 11:10:33 | moda|lap | gah |
| 11:10:36 | Acksaw | lemme make this folder! |
| 11:10:41 | Bger | no, don't make it |
| 11:10:43 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:10:55 | moda|lap | does it support gba? or just gb/gbc? |
| 11:10:56 | Acksaw | im downloading this unmodified hex now |
| 11:10:58 | Bger | just use the link Paul_The_Nerd put |
| 11:11:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's not unmodified |
| 11:11:02 | perplexity | no gba support.. |
| 11:11:03 | Bger | moda|lap: it doesn't do gba |
| 11:11:05 | moda|lap | i see |
| 11:11:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | That one I linked is already patched |
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| 11:11:08 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 11:11:11 | Acksaw | ok thanks |
| 11:11:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | You should be able to just copy it to the player and upgrade |
| 11:11:20 | Bger | so you just put this on the player |
| 11:11:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | But md5sum it first |
| 11:11:31 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:11:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just to make sure you download is 100% perfect |
| 11:11:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | d693e80025fbc5530ce031a5ee414c82 <−−- If you get that number, it's good. |
| 11:11:50 | Acksaw | still downloading |
| 11:11:53 | Acksaw | rather slow |
| 11:11:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 11:11:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sorry 'bout that |
| 11:11:59 | Acksaw | no worrys |
| 11:12:03 | Bger | Paul_The_Ner: u're really fast :) |
| 11:12:13 | Acksaw | indeed |
| 11:12:17 | perplexity | It ill speed up in a tic when I give Paul_The_Nerd 10kb/s of his upload pipe back |
| 11:12:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm running Apache on a laptop over a 802.11g connection to a cable modem. Hehehe |
| 11:12:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | And I've got torrents running. |
| 11:12:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | So my upload is a little... minimalistic. |
| 11:12:47 | Acksaw | hehe |
| 11:13:10 | * | Paul_The_Nerd was learning CSS and PHP, and decided he wanted as much flexibility to test things as possible, even without internet. |
| 11:13:13 | Acksaw | anyideas what the problem is? |
| 11:13:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | You're somehow using an older fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:13:49 | perplexity | Interesting.. now when I have USB plugged in and I power up the unit it just drops straight into the iriver firmware without user intervention.. neato |
| 11:14:14 | Acksaw | d69 |
| 11:14:22 | Acksaw | yay |
| 11:14:25 | Acksaw | its correct |
| 11:14:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'd clear your browser cache, in the settings, then do a Start->Search->Find Files or Folders, and have it search for fwpatcher.exe and delete ALL of them, before you ever download again. |
| 11:14:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | But yeah, okay, flash that one, and you should have V2 |
| 11:14:46 | _FireFly_ | Acksaw: all numbers must be correct not only the first 3 one |
| 11:14:49 | Acksaw | d693e80025fbc5530ce031a5ee414c82 *h300.hex |
| 11:15:09 | JdGordon | hahah. u still havnt got the corrct version? |
| 11:15:16 | JdGordon | u want me to dcc it to ya? |
| 11:15:29 | Acksaw | seems correct |
| 11:15:37 | Acksaw | unles you wanna double checl |
| 11:15:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's correct JdGordon |
| 11:15:40 | Bger | it's ok |
| 11:15:44 | ashridah | wouldn't it be more intelligent to md5sum fwpatcher.exe to see if he's got the newest? :) |
| 11:15:44 | Acksaw | now what? |
| 11:15:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's the proper md5 |
| 11:15:48 | Acksaw | download daily build? |
| 11:15:59 | Acksaw | yeh |
| 11:16:04 | Acksaw | ill mdsum the patcher |
| 11:16:15 | Bger | ashridah: that's what i tried to explain ... |
| 11:16:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
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| 11:16:30 | Bger | [12:24:54] <Bger> 5a9c547c3f438e5e8239ffb4a788a341 *fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:16:37 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:16:37 | perplexity | Great encode of sth Paul_The_Nerd :p) Yep, it sticks at 100% boost here and just can't quite cope.. plays great in the original iriver fw though |
| 11:16:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Download that build, do everything else as normal, etc. |
| 11:16:50 | moda|lap | do you reckon we will get gba emulations? |
| 11:16:50 | Acksaw | the fwpatcher is in the same file as my md5sum |
| 11:17:05 | Acksaw | whats the extension on the patcher? |
| 11:17:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | GBA emulation is really unlikely, I'd say. |
| 11:17:08 | Acksaw | .exe? |
| 11:17:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 11:17:10 | Bger | yes |
| 11:17:20 | moda|lap | awww |
| 11:17:29 | Acksaw | 5a64bc2b77be1b01c433a1f14a76fe3b *fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:17:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | perplexity: So, 90mhz is not enough for a Q10 ogg |
| 11:17:43 | Acksaw | thats my fwpatcher |
| 11:17:45 | perplexity | Most certainly not.. but we have a great test case now for any optimisations.. |
| 11:17:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, that's not the newest one |
| 11:17:48 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 11:17:53 | Acksaw | can you link me to newest? |
| 11:17:54 | ashridah | Acksaw: that's not the same. |
| 11:17:55 | moda|lap | wonder if there is a way to convert gba games to gbc :p |
| 11:18:09 | _FireFly_ | Acksaw: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 11:18:12 | Acksaw | dcc it me |
| 11:18:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverBoot/fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:18:13 | Acksaw | firefly |
| 11:18:17 | Acksaw | everyoe |
| 11:18:20 | Acksaw | i got it from there |
| 11:18:23 | Acksaw | numerous times |
| 11:18:41 | _FireFly_ | FWpatcher without unicode support (v6 & v2) |
| 11:18:54 | _FireFly_ | 27 Nov 2005 - 01:18 |
| 11:18:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Somehow either you're not actually downloading it to *where* you think you are. |
| 11:19:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or your browser has the file cached. |
| 11:19:11 | Acksaw | im downloading to the desktop |
| 11:19:14 | Acksaw | maybe |
| 11:19:21 | Acksaw | want me clear cache? |
| 11:19:37 | | Quit moda|lap () |
| 11:19:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | As I said, clear the browser caches, and do a find file on fwpatcher.exe and delete all of them, then try downloading it again. |
| 11:19:44 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:19:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | That *may* solve the problem |
| 11:19:54 | * | Paul_The_Nerd hopes |
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| 11:20:06 | perplexity | grrrr windows.. so unpredictable and difficult to diagnose.. |
| 11:20:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Perplexity: I wasn't sure what genre of music to pick as a test encode, but in the end I went with what felt right. |
| 11:20:59 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd: share the fwpatcher to him |
| 11:21:03 | perplexity | Actually, from a quality perspective the guitar and flute there is a great test of the codec |
| 11:21:46 | Acksaw | 5a64bc2b77be1b01c433a1f14a76fe3b *fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:21:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://66.68.93.2/fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:21:53 | Acksaw | thats the one i just got |
| 11:22:02 | Acksaw | after clear cache etc |
| 11:22:18 | perplexity | Perhaps his isp is doing retarded transparent caching.. |
| 11:22:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | 5a9c547c3f438e5e8239ffb4a788a341 |
| 11:22:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, |
| 11:22:28 | Acksaw | maybe |
| 11:22:31 | Acksaw | my isp does suck |
| 11:22:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oooh, does your ISP have "Web Accelerator" or anything like that? |
| 11:22:34 | ashridah | someone just dcc him a copy of fwpatcher.exe :) |
| 11:22:38 | Acksaw | yeh |
| 11:22:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's what's doing it |
| 11:22:43 | Acksaw | some dcc it# |
| 11:22:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Click the link I pasted |
| 11:22:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Since it's coming from a different server, it shouldn't be cached. |
| 11:22:57 | perplexity | Paul_The_Nerd has put in on the web for you.. grab that one |
| 11:23:03 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:23:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | "Web Accelerator" type things are *evil* |
| 11:23:27 | Acksaw | i dont think i use tht |
| 11:23:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sometimes they do things *like* it on their side. |
| 11:23:55 | Acksaw | 5a9c547c3f438e5e8239ffb4a788a341 *fwpatcher.exe |
| 11:24:02 | Acksaw | looks right!!! |
| 11:24:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Congrats |
| 11:24:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | That one's proper. |
| 11:24:09 | Acksaw | ok so im all set for next time |
| 11:24:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's V2 fwpatcher. |
| 11:24:20 | Acksaw | lets just try see if that hex worked |
| 11:24:24 | Acksaw | that one paul made |
| 11:24:41 | perplexity | Now I can see why everyone raves over Rockbox.. now we just need some GPL player hardware or a manuf who will support with hw info and this thing could fly |
| 11:25:02 | Acksaw | fw upgrading... |
| 11:25:52 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:25:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | "Rockbox: We're actually helpful" :-P |
| 11:25:54 | Acksaw | test 1 |
| 11:25:58 | Acksaw | WAHOO |
| 11:26:03 | Acksaw | version 2 biatch! |
| 11:26:17 | perplexity | I was not even refering to the assistance, more the software and features.. but yes, that also :) |
| 11:26:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Woo |
| 11:26:19 | Acksaw | woo |
| 11:26:24 | Acksaw | sound biatch! |
| 11:26:24 | JdGordon | bout time :D |
| 11:26:27 | Acksaw | i love you guys! |
| 11:26:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | perplexity: Indeed, the features are awesome. |
| 11:26:31 | | Quit ^BeN^ (Connection timed out) |
| 11:26:39 | andrewmel | welcome to the club acksaw |
| 11:26:46 | Acksaw | thanks |
| 11:26:47 | andrewmel | i only just joined as well... |
| 11:26:53 | Acksaw | you guys are great |
| 11:26:54 | Acksaw | mel |
| 11:27:03 | perplexity | Enough so that I have set up my cross compile env, built my own copy from CVS and hope to actually help somewhere at some point.. |
| 11:27:06 | Acksaw | ive been using since hte first day it was released |
| 11:27:19 | Acksaw | i had trouble with the fwpatcher thats all andrew |
| 11:27:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I update from CVS and compile myself too, perplexity. |
| 11:27:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's just a satisfaction from having it built locally for some reason. |
| 11:27:43 | Acksaw | im off |
| 11:27:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cya |
| 11:27:49 | Acksaw | to do a happy dance |
| 11:27:51 | Acksaw | actually |
| 11:27:53 | perplexity | Indeed.. my next masochistic thing to try is build my own bootloader (and buy a BDM wiggler in case I get it wrong) :) |
| 11:27:55 | Acksaw | ill catch up on MR |
| 11:28:23 | Acksaw | any ideas how i can fix that thing where it downloads the same one? |
| 11:28:38 | JdGordon | reset your browser cache? |
| 11:28:45 | andrewmel | bugger. i just tried to replace the background in the engineer2 theme with a 220x176 pixel yellow gif |
| 11:28:48 | andrewmel | didnt work |
| 11:28:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | We'd have to figure out what's causing it first. |
| 11:29:11 | Acksaw | lol |
| 11:29:17 | Acksaw | i gotta rebuild my cache |
| 11:29:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | The WPS code still only supports monochrome BMPs, I think, andrewmel. |
| 11:29:23 | Acksaw | mr is running slow! |
| 11:29:54 | andrewmel | just thought I woudl give it a go... |
| 11:30:24 | andrewmel | i have e-zwps and cant open the existing themes, is there some wiki you know of that will let me know how this works? |
| 11:30:59 | Febs | Andrewmel: CustomWPS |
| 11:31:03 | _FireFly_ | andrewmel: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 11:31:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | It doesn't describe the whole theme .cfg file format though, does it? |
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| 11:31:53 | Febs | No, I don't think anyone has documented that feature yet. |
| 11:32:04 | _FireFly_ | the cfg file is a normal cfg file :) |
| 11:32:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 11:32:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | But you put it in the themes folder, and only put a few lines in it, if it's to be a proper "theme" |
| 11:32:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | :-P |
| 11:32:50 | _FireFly_ | simply save your settings to a file and then you have all possible settings ;) |
| 11:32:54 | amiconn | bbl |
| 11:32:56 | | Part amiconn |
| 11:33:26 | Nixsos | Acksaw: which FW version did you use? EU? |
| 11:33:33 | Acksaw | Korean |
| 11:33:41 | Acksaw | i hate the eu vol cap |
| 11:33:44 | Febs | Nevertheless, that isn't yet documented anywhere. If I have a chance this week, I'm going to update the manual with some of the things that have been added recently. |
| 11:33:54 | perplexity | I think this is a daft question, but can the sims play music and use the codecs ? |
| 11:33:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not that the volume cap exists in rockbox anyway. :-P |
| 11:34:03 | Acksaw | hehe |
| 11:34:10 | Acksaw | but if i wanna use the iriver firmware =] |
| 11:34:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | I know the h120 sim could be built to play music for a while, though I can't seem to get it right |
| 11:34:19 | _FireFly_ | Paul_The_Nerd: the "theme"-cfg file sets only the wps/rwps used font, and maybe if statusbar should be on or off but this can be now also handled with the wps-tags %we(statusbar is shown in wps) nad %wd(statusbar is not shown in wps) |
| 11:34:40 | Nixsos | Acksaw: so sound is actually working? All supported codeces or just mp3? |
| 11:35:03 | Acksaw | no idea |
| 11:35:05 | Acksaw | i only use mp3 |
| 11:35:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | _FireFly_ Don't forget font. My "theme" is an .wps, a .rwps, and a font. I've got a car theme, and a non-car theme for when I don't need huge fonts. |
| 11:35:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nixsos: At least Ogg works too, though not highest bitrates |
| 11:35:31 | Nixsos | ah ok |
| 11:35:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nixsos: Theoretically others *should* from what I understand |
| 11:35:46 | Nixsos | this is so cool guys, i'm going to download it right away |
| 11:35:48 | Acksaw | im off guys |
| 11:35:50 | Acksaw | ciao |
| 11:35:53 | _FireFly_ | Paul_The_Nerd: only the wps/rwps used font, |
| 11:35:54 | Nixsos | ciao! |
| 11:36:08 | _FireFly_ | there is a ',' missing ;) |
| 11:36:10 | | Quit Acksaw () |
| 11:36:13 | _FireFly_ | only the wps/rwps, used font, |
| 11:36:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yep |
| 11:36:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wish there was a font tag for wps. |
| 11:36:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | But not that badly |
| 11:37:00 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd: do you have remote ? |
| 11:37:06 | Bger | (u suppose u have) |
| 11:37:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes Bger |
| 11:37:45 | Bger | just sec |
| 11:38:27 | Bger | what's the name of the button, which corrseponds to the "A-B" on the main unit ? |
| 11:38:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | A-B/Mode |
| 11:38:58 | _FireFly_ | Bger: is the same ;) |
| 11:38:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | On the H100 remote, that is. |
| 11:39:02 | Bger | 10x :) |
| 11:39:03 | JdGordon | wtf??? i just left my 300 in rb charging... and then look back (like 5 min later) and its in the iriver fw... |
| 11:39:04 | Bger | yes, |
| 11:39:17 | Bger | JdGordon: it's normal |
| 11:39:22 | Bger | when it's charging |
| 11:39:24 | JdGordon | ok |
| 11:39:26 | Bger | and rockbox turns off |
| 11:39:31 | Bger | the iriver firmware starts |
| 11:39:37 | Bger | and shows the "charging" screen |
| 11:40:24 | * | Bger is confused of h100 remote |
| 11:40:30 | Rick | confused how? |
| 11:40:43 | JdGordon | does that happen when its playing music also? |
| 11:41:04 | Bger | h300 lcd remotes looks a way more likely the main unit ... |
| 11:41:14 | | Quit TCK (Connection timed out) |
| 11:41:21 | Bger | wtf is this button "bitrate" |
| 11:41:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | For recording |
| 11:41:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | To change bitrate settings on recorded MP3s |
| 11:41:55 | _FireFly_ | afaik it is used unter the iriver fw to switch the bitrate for recording |
| 11:42:15 | Bger | the only additional buttons on h300 lcd remote are +10 and -10 |
| 11:42:26 | JdGordon | has any1 tryed uncommenting the line saying the h300's dont have radio and seen if it works? |
| 11:42:58 | Rick | what does +10 and -10 do? |
| 11:43:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, the only extra buttons on the H100 are (Source/Type) and (Bitrate) I believe |
| 11:43:20 | | Part andrewmel |
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| 11:45:49 | Bger | what's the equal of joy push on h100 remote ? |
| 11:46:01 | Bger | ah, ok, navi |
| 11:46:26 | _FireFly_ | long press joy-push is currently in file-tree long-press play on remote |
| 11:47:13 | * | Bger is confused again |
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| 11:48:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Buttons do not have 100% identical functions. |
| 11:48:34 | Bger | i want to make them 100% identical ... |
| 11:48:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | When you hold the Joystick clicked on the main unit (when highlighting a file) you can achieve the same function by holding the Play button on the remote. |
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| 11:52:41 | Acksaw | anyone wanna edit a wps for me? |
| 11:52:52 | Acksaw | just need it a little altering and no idea how myself |
| 11:53:03 | * | JdGordon has been looking at the wps's on MR, they all suk :'( |
| 11:53:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 11:53:09 | Acksaw | they do |
| 11:53:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | They're just renamed .txt files |
| 11:53:15 | JdGordon | well.. start by loading it in notepad :p |
| 11:53:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Basically |
| 11:53:23 | Acksaw | im using the zeyean or something |
| 11:53:33 | Acksaw | and i wanna change it a little |
| 11:54:47 | Acksaw | to work with the font i use |
| 11:55:36 | Acksaw | this is confusing! |
| 11:55:56 | Acksaw | would anyone do it for me? |
| 11:56:04 | Acksaw | all i need is a few things changing |
| 11:56:05 | JdGordon | which wps u using? |
| 11:56:14 | JdGordon | is it a strandard 1? |
| 11:56:15 | Acksaw | zezayer |
| 11:56:31 | Acksaw | i want it edited for my fav font |
| 11:56:43 | Bger | is the "play/pause" button on the remote the "on" button" ? |
| 11:56:48 | Acksaw | and i want the battery bar etc at the top |
| 11:56:50 | Acksaw | battery bar shuffle mode etc |
| 11:56:57 | Bger | h100 remote i mean |
| 11:57:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, Bger |
| 11:57:10 | Bger | grr |
| 11:57:25 | Bger | on h300 remote you start it with joy push (navi) |
| 11:58:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | But the H100 Play/Pause remote button is the big, central button anyway |
| 11:58:13 | Acksaw | think you will able do it jd? |
| 11:58:28 | JdGordon | mebe.. how do u change your wps on the p[layer? |
| 11:58:43 | Acksaw | notepad? |
| 11:58:55 | Acksaw | no idea |
| 11:59:04 | JdGordon | ha, no i mean how do u set which 1 is being used |
| 11:59:08 | Acksaw | oh |
| 11:59:14 | aliask | How do you compile a plugin's c file to a .rock? |
| 11:59:16 | Acksaw | pres a-b |
| 11:59:26 | Acksaw | then go.. |
| 11:59:31 | Acksaw | display |
| 11:59:32 | JdGordon | aliask: u on iwndows or lunix? |
| 11:59:54 | aliask | Either, I have windows, but I use putty and connect to a linux box (which has the rockbox toolchain on it) |
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| 12:00:04 | Acksaw | a-b - general - display - browse .wps files |
| 12:00:12 | Acksaw | then zezayer |
| 12:00:27 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 12:00:27 | | Quit arkascha (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 12:00:31 | Bger | what about the navi button ? |
| 12:00:31 | JdGordon | aliask: |
| 12:00:38 | JdGordon | grab the rockbox dev kit thingy |
| 12:00:44 | JdGordon | its a presetup cygwin setup |
| 12:00:56 | JdGordon | ok, which font u use? |
| 12:01:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bger: The navi button does not power on. Play/Pause is used both on the main unit, and on the remote |
| 12:01:11 | Acksaw | Sanp |
| 12:01:13 | Acksaw | Snap * |
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| 12:01:41 | JdGordon | right.. what u wanna change? |
| 12:01:48 | * | JdGordon got the win32 sim setup |
| 12:01:57 | Acksaw | the rockbox thing can be taken out |
| 12:01:58 | Acksaw | and.. |
| 12:02:21 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd: i mean what's its function |
| 12:02:23 | Acksaw | the battery and the shuffle mode and the volume up top above "now playing" |
| 12:02:24 | Bger | on the remote |
| 12:02:33 | Bger | like joy push on the main ? |
| 12:02:35 | Acksaw | that should be all |
| 12:02:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Clicking it on files or folders selects them. If you click a song, it plays, a folder, it enters, etc. |
| 12:02:55 | JdGordon | the sim is fucked... 1 min |
| 12:03:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | The Play/Pause button actually resumes playback. |
| 12:03:14 | Bger | the navi button |
| 12:03:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, "Joy Push" is the same as "Navi" |
| 12:03:53 | JdGordon | this heme looks terrible :O |
| 12:04:01 | Acksaw | really? |
| 12:04:06 | Acksaw | i just want one with all that stuff on |
| 12:04:12 | Acksaw | and where i can see whats next? |
| 12:04:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just use a simple text based one still |
| 12:04:18 | Bger | btw |
| 12:04:31 | Bger | the rec, bitrate and source are on one "tripple" button? |
| 12:04:33 | Acksaw | is there a prog i can make them on? |
| 12:04:34 | Bger | are they |
| 12:05:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's a wheel. tilting it left does Source/Type, Right does Bitrate, and pushing the wheel into the remote does Record |
| 12:05:24 | Bger | ok, 10x :) |
| 12:05:34 | JdGordon | Acksaw http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/EZWPS |
| 12:05:40 | Acksaw | thanks |
| 12:06:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's the same for FF/RW/Navi and Vol-/Vol+/(A-B/Mode) |
| 12:06:24 | Acksaw | Jd |
| 12:06:31 | Acksaw | that doesnt show the result of the wps? |
| 12:06:45 | JdGordon | no, its all trial and error :( |
| 12:06:54 | Acksaw | damn. |
| 12:07:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | EZWPS is rather outdated anyway, I think. |
| 12:07:06 | Acksaw | i just want a few things chaning |
| 12:07:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Acksaw, the things you've mentioned changing seem to require redrawing the .bmp file. |
| 12:07:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can do that in an image editing program. |
| 12:07:57 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 12:08:03 | Acksaw | :S |
| 12:08:05 | Acksaw | i have no idea how |
| 12:08:09 | Acksaw | il just look on MR |
| 12:08:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 12:08:13 | Acksaw | for ones that look ok |
| 12:08:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I suggest using "Boxes," one of the built in themes (assuming it works okay on H300) |
| 12:08:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's got a good amount of information and functionality. |
| 12:08:59 | JdGordon | nup |
| 12:09:03 | JdGordon | boxes needs to be ported |
| 12:09:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | :( |
| 12:09:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's wrong with it? |
| 12:09:29 | Bger | it's ok |
| 12:09:40 | Acksaw | found a good one |
| 12:09:57 | Acksaw | http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/8281/chrisrobinson19yr.png |
| 12:10:23 | Acksaw | i got the wps info |
| 12:10:27 | Acksaw | do a need a .bmp or something? |
| 12:10:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | That one doesn't use a .bmp |
| 12:11:01 | Acksaw | goody |
| 12:11:03 | Acksaw | = |
| 12:11:04 | Acksaw | =] |
| 12:11:25 | Acksaw | ok |
| 12:11:27 | Acksaw | i got the info |
| 12:11:31 | Acksaw | what do i do with it? |
| 12:12:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Do you have it as a .wps file? |
| 12:13:27 | Acksaw | how do i do that? |
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| 12:13:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | The general solution is to paste it into an empty .txt file, then rename whatever.txt to whatever.wps |
| 12:14:03 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 12:14:04 | Acksaw | thanks |
| 12:14:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then, just copy it over to your player, then in rockbox on the player, browse to it and click on the file |
| 12:15:44 | * | JdGordon is playing with boxes to work better on the h300 |
| 12:15:54 | Acksaw | how do i rename it? |
| 12:16:22 | Acksaw | to .wps |
| 12:16:36 | * | Bger made his h300 remote to work correctly, needs more testing |
| 12:16:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Right click on the file, choose rename, and change the .txt bit to .wps? |
| 12:16:54 | Acksaw | that bit doesnt show up in my comp |
| 12:17:13 | JdGordon | u need to show extensions for known filetypes |
| 12:17:18 | Bger | if someone has h300 remote and use it, i can give him a build tonight |
| 12:17:22 | Bger | bye for now |
| 12:18:19 | JdGordon | apart from the flickering its erfect |
| 12:19:01 | JdGordon | does the rec button do anything in rb? |
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| 12:19:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | It depends on where you are, JdGordon |
| 12:20:01 | JdGordon | e.g??? apart from bootup i dont tihnk ive ever needed to press it |
| 12:20:07 | Acksaw | argh |
| 12:20:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Acksaw, open up the file in notepad, choose save as, then type in the filename with .wps on the end and the File Type as All Files |
| 12:20:14 | Acksaw | the one i got doesnt fit the screen!! |
| 12:20:23 | Acksaw | i found out how paul |
| 12:20:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Too small, too large, or what? |
| 12:20:29 | Acksaw | but it doesnt fir the screen |
| 12:20:31 | Acksaw | a bit of both |
| 12:20:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's because it's designed for the H100. |
| 12:20:48 | Acksaw | the word next is on the track progress bar |
| 12:20:54 | Nixsos | just installed the new bootloader... i heard the HD spinning, but there was no image on the LCD. i thought i turned rockbox into a brickbox. fortunately i was able to boot back in original FW |
| 12:20:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Odd. |
| 12:21:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: It's used for backspace in text-entry as well, I believe |
| 12:21:26 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:21:53 | JdGordon | Nixsos: u should be able to boot into rb after loading iriver once... your not the frst to cvomplain about that |
| 12:21:57 | Acksaw | i hope boxes gets sorted |
| 12:21:59 | Acksaw | thats a nice theme |
| 12:22:16 | JdGordon | u wanty the modified background image for it to make it look better? |
| 12:22:25 | Acksaw | ? |
| 12:22:27 | Nixsos | JdGordon: okat, i totally freaked out |
| 12:22:39 | Nixsos | i think i'll try again |
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| 12:23:22 | JdGordon | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/bg.bmp |
| 12:23:23 | Acksaw | anyone attempting to sort out boxes? |
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| 12:23:37 | JdGordon | dl that file and put it the .rockbox/wps/boxes |
| 12:23:41 | Acksaw | ahh |
| 12:23:43 | Acksaw | ok thanks |
| 12:23:48 | JdGordon | got it almost perfect 1st attemt :D |
| 12:23:53 | Acksaw | the only thing i dont like |
| 12:23:59 | Acksaw | is the vol bar |
| 12:24:24 | Acksaw | id prefer the precentge thing |
| 12:24:54 | Febs | Acksaw: you know, you can create your own WPS or modify an existing WPS to suit your needs: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall?topic=CustomWPS |
| 12:25:22 | Acksaw | yes |
| 12:25:53 | Acksaw | just the volume bar is a bit crapp IMO |
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| 12:27:58 | Zak1392 | wazzup |
| 12:28:01 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: How are you doing with Sudoku on the H300? |
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| 12:28:55 | JdGordon | well... it loads, but the images are not working... obviosuly its more work than i thought :D if no1 else will touch it i will learn how rb draws and fix it... |
| 12:28:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Alright, now batch converting all my lossless music to FLAC... |
| 12:29:09 | JdGordon | all i really did was add the proper #defines so it compiles |
| 12:29:21 | _FireFly_ | Paul_The_Nerd: why ?? |
| 12:29:28 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Sudoku has two sets of bitmaps for the numbers - 1bpp (for the small Archos LCDs) and 2bpp for the H1x0. |
| 12:29:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because FLAC is faster than Wavpack on Rockbox, so slightly better battery life? |
| 12:29:37 | Acksaw | is there a quick way to add a song into the otf playlist? |
| 12:30:08 | linuxstb | The 1bpp bitmaps will be too small for the H300, and you can't draw 2bpp bitmaps on the H300's display. So you will need to define your own set of bitmaps for the larger colour LCD. |
| 12:30:20 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:30:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | _Firefly_: So, better battery life @ the same sound quality, and the FLACs are a wee bit smaller than the wavpacks were. |
| 12:30:42 | JdGordon | got any quick pointers on what needs to be done? (how the h300 is expecting them?) |
| 12:30:48 | Acksaw | boxes could also be altered by adding both the artist and the track to the next song instead of alternating |
| 12:30:50 | _FireFly_ | Paul_The_Nerd: by me wavpack is a big smaller the flac |
| 12:31:01 | _FireFly_ | s/big/bit/ |
| 12:31:06 | Zak1392 | i thought sudoku already worked for h300s? |
| 12:31:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | My wavpacks weren't on the best compression settings initially |
| 12:31:15 | Acksaw | aww well |
| 12:31:16 | Acksaw | im off |
| 12:31:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | When I'd tried that, they would underrun and skip on rockbox when I first encoded them. |
| 12:31:28 | Nixsos | JdGordon: okay, i flashed it again with rockbox FW... same problem, black screen -> rec + play, original FW -> shut it down -> started it and it immediately booted the original FW. no sign of rockbox |
| 12:31:59 | linuxstb | JdGordon: The native bitmaps for the H300 are an array of unsigned shorts - 16bpp. You could create 10 .bmp files and then use the bmp2rb utility to create C structures containing the bitmap. |
| 12:32:03 | Febs | Acksaw: for your question re: OTF playlists: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualFileMenu |
| 12:32:42 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:32:43 | JdGordon | will do |
| 12:33:19 | JdGordon | sorry.. what size does the bmp need to be? |
| 12:33:22 | JdGordon | in pixels? |
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| 12:34:40 | linuxstb | JdGordon: You need 14 pixels in each direction for the grid, so (176-14)/9 for each cell - i.e. 18x18 pixels. |
| 12:35:07 | linuxstb | Your numbers should be 16x16 - to give a 1 pixel border around the numbers. |
| 12:35:52 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:36:27 | linuxstb | In fact, it's worse than having 10 bitmaps - you need 30. One for cells where the cursor is located, one for numbers from the starting layout, and one for numbers the user has entered. |
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| 12:37:10 | linuxstb | BTW, you don't have a number 0 - the first bitmap is for an empty cell. |
| 12:37:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ouch |
| 12:37:38 | JdGordon | yup, im addicted to sudoku :D |
| 12:37:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just downloaded some .ss packs to my player, finally |
| 12:38:11 | linuxstb | You could probably just create one set of bitmaps, and then use search and replace in your editor to change the colours for the other two sets. |
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| 12:38:40 | linuxstb | Unless you wanted completely different bitmaps for the three cases. |
| 12:39:01 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: he could create 3 bitmaps with each 10 graphics inside |
| 12:39:08 | JdGordon | ok, done the bmps... what do i use to convert em? |
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| 12:39:18 | _FireFly_ | and uses *_bitmap_part |
| 12:39:39 | JdGordon | _FireFly_: no, cant do that because the way sudoku does the rest of the ports |
| 12:39:44 | JdGordon | without changing the whole thing |
| 12:39:51 | _FireFly_ | ah ok |
| 12:39:53 | JdGordon | .. which would prob be better anyway |
| 12:40:12 | JdGordon | atm its got each 10 numbers (*3) for each lcd size... |
| 12:40:31 | _FireFly_ | i have some code for the wps to use combined-bitmaps |
| 12:40:44 | _FireFly_ | instead a seperate bitmap for each image |
| 12:40:46 | linuxstb | Use the tools/bmp2rb program. Run it without any arguments to get the usage info. |
| 12:41:01 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: It would be less efficient in this case to have one bitmap. |
| 12:41:15 | _FireFly_ | why |
| 12:41:30 | linuxstb | Because bitmap_part is less efficient than bitmap. |
| 12:41:59 | linuxstb | i.e. Sudoku just does number_bitmaps[n] to get the bitmap for that number. |
| 12:42:33 | _FireFly_ | afaik does bitmap use bitmap_part |
| 12:42:33 | linuxstb | Using one bitmap, it would have to calculate the position of the part of the bitmap it wants to use. |
| 12:43:09 | _FireFly_ | this can be hard-coded |
| 12:43:20 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: /* Draw a full monochrome bitmap */ |
| 12:43:20 | _FireFly_ | void lcd_mono_bitmap(const unsigned char *src, int x, int y, int width, int height) |
| 12:43:20 | _FireFly_ | { |
| 12:43:20 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _FireFly_ |
| 12:43:20 | _FireFly_ | lcd_mono_bitmap_part(src, 0, 0, width, x, y, width, height); |
| 12:43:20 | _FireFly_ | } |
| 12:44:00 | linuxstb | But how would you hardcode the position for number "n" (where n is a variable?) |
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| 12:44:24 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: how is number_bitmaps defined ?? |
| 12:44:26 | linuxstb | I don't see the problem with separate bitmaps - you just do a shell script to generate them. |
| 12:44:41 | linuxstb | A two-dimensional array |
| 12:44:48 | _FireFly_ | of what |
| 12:44:57 | linuxstb | char |
| 12:45:06 | linuxstb | (or unsigned short for the 16bpp bitmaps) |
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| 12:45:36 | markun | I'm compiling rockbox for H3xx with the unicode patch. Would anyone like to test it for me? |
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| 12:46:40 | ep0ch|_ | Slasher: you here? I have a little bug for you regarding playback :) |
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| 12:47:18 | Slasher | ep0ch|: yes :) |
| 12:47:29 | JdGordon | linuxstb: where does bmp2rb put the c code its supposed to export? |
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| 12:47:42 | linuxstb | It prints it to stdout (I think) |
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| 12:48:02 | JdGordon | ah, its not supposed to have -a :p |
| 12:48:10 | markun | linuxstb: is the ipod port in a state where you can see text? |
| 12:48:25 | linuxstb | markun: Yes - that's been working for a long time. |
| 12:48:36 | Zak1392 | what is the stock battery on h300s? |
| 12:48:43 | Zak1392 | mah? |
| 12:48:45 | ep0ch| | Slasher: OK, when i was playing an ogg track that had sound starting from T=0ms, i play it for a > 5 seconds, hit previous, the track plays again but sound heard is from like T=100ms, i.e. some of the beginning of the track is missing. |
| 12:49:06 | markun | linuxstb: The unicode patch I'm preparing should also work for the ipod. Could you test if for me lateron? |
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| 12:49:26 | linuxstb | ep0ch|: That sounds like a bug in the vorbis codec. |
| 12:49:30 | ep0ch| | Slasher: it seems to be consistent with all the vorbis files i tried, not sure about mp3 |
| 12:49:45 | Zak1392 | can anyone answer my question? |
| 12:50:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Isn't it the same as the H120/140? |
| 12:50:10 | linuxstb | markun: Yes, I guess so. But we don't have a button driver, so all that is displayed is the file browser - unless I add some lcd_puts commands. |
| 12:50:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | 1300 I think? |
| 12:50:12 | ep0ch| | Slasher: but if i was to hit 'next' the file plays from the beginning. |
| 12:50:12 | markun | Zak1392: probably 1300 |
| 12:50:16 | Slasher | ep0ch|: ah, yes that's possible. It's caused because we overwrite the old data in pcm buffer too early |
| 12:50:33 | ep0ch| | ahh |
| 12:50:36 | Zak1392 | markun: are you positive? |
| 12:50:52 | markun | linuxstb: You could put some unicode chars in the filenames |
| 12:50:55 | Slasher | ep0ch|: that can be fixed or then we could just stop the playback completely before changing tracks / seeking |
| 12:51:08 | markun | Zak1392: no, better go to mysticriver |
| 12:51:23 | linuxstb | markun: Sure. But you would have to tell me how. |
| 12:51:27 | linuxstb | (under Linux) |
| 12:51:38 | ep0ch| | cool |
| 12:51:48 | linuxstb | I use iso-8859-1 as my locale. |
| 12:51:53 | markun | I'm using FreeBSD, shouldn't be much different |
| 12:52:34 | markun | can you set it to UTF-8 for the test? |
| 12:53:02 | ep0ch| | markun: hi, off topic question but with Freebsd do you ever run "portsdb -Uu"? |
| 12:53:17 | markun | no |
| 12:53:38 | JdGordon | oh great... bmp2rb segfaults with > 1.txt |
| 12:53:46 | markun | ep0ch|: never tried it |
| 12:53:58 | ep0ch| | markun: no worries |
| 12:53:59 | linuxstb | markun: Not sure - I can try. Would just adding some lcd_puts commands be just as good a test? |
| 12:54:06 | XavierGr | Slasher although I think that clipping "pop" problems have been solved when you change a track, I think I still can hear these "pops" when I (un)pause or seek. Others with the same problem? |
| 12:54:20 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: ok my idea isn't so good for the sudoku plugin becuase the images are stored in the plugin but your statement that bitmap is a bit better then bitmap_part is wrong :) |
| 12:54:49 | markun | linuxstb: yes, sure. Just make some strings with a editor that understands utf-8 |
| 12:55:24 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: It's wrong in terms of the lcd driver, but it's right in terms of Sudoku itself - it's very slightly easier for Sudoku to call bitmap() instead of bitmap_part(). But it's not a big deal. |
| 12:55:29 | JdGordon | linuxstb: is 0xffff full black or full white pixel? |
| 12:55:33 | linuxstb | markun: Sure, that part I can handle. |
| 12:55:37 | Slasher | XavierGr: yes, i have noticed that also |
| 12:56:05 | _FireFly_ | JdGordon: afaik full white |
| 12:56:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Should be full white, no? |
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| 12:56:18 | XavierGr | why these clicks happen anyway? |
| 12:56:23 | linuxstb | JdGordon: White. |
| 12:56:29 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:57:01 | Zak1392 | does anyone else know what the capacity is on the stock h300 battery? |
| 12:57:20 | XavierGr | I think it is the same with H100 at 1300 mAh |
| 12:57:24 | perplexity | According to my unit here about 1300mah |
| 12:57:32 | Zak1392 | i'm getting either 1300 and 1450 |
| 12:57:59 | Zak1392 | from a search |
| 12:58:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | What are you needing it for? |
| 12:58:44 | perplexity | well there is about 2/10ths of a gnats in it in all reality.. either should do |
| 12:58:49 | markun | linuxstb: Can you load a different font? |
| 12:58:54 | Zak1392 | just wanna know |
| 12:59:08 | linuxstb | markun: No - I guess that will need to be hard-coded as well. |
| 12:59:25 | linuxstb | Maybe we should just wait - do you need to do anything differently for the h300 and ipod? |
| 12:59:53 | linuxstb | I mean, is there any reason you think it may not work? |
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| 13:02:11 | JdGordon | bloody hell.. first 10 finally done :p |
| 13:02:41 | amiconn | markun: I was working on the selfextractor last night. Did not yet manage to make it work :( |
| 13:03:20 | markun | amiconn: I alsmost have the patch finished with arab joining disabled for the recorder v1 |
| 13:03:34 | perplexity | bbl |
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| 13:03:41 | _FireFly_ | if this someone finds interresting: i have some code for a basic zip-reader(only uncompressed zip-files) |
| 13:04:03 | markun | amiconn: Do you think you will be able to get it to work? |
| 13:04:16 | amiconn | The biggest problem is the debugging |
| 13:04:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | _Firefly_ That could be neat. |
| 13:04:28 | amiconn | This is *real* low-level stuff |
| 13:04:33 | | Quit Membrillo () |
| 13:04:33 | amiconn | No lcd output etc |
| 13:04:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | You could put the .wps, .rwps, and .cfg into one .theme file that's an uncompressed .zip of the three. |
| 13:04:47 | amiconn | The only way for signalisation is the red LED |
| 13:05:02 | _FireFly_ | Paul_The_Nerd: plus the images ;) |
| 13:05:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Plus the images |
| 13:05:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | That would actually be quite nice, I think |
| 13:05:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:05:28 | markun | can imagine it to be very difficult then.. |
| 13:05:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | A *lost* less clutter |
| 13:05:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | *lot* even |
| 13:05:52 | _FireFly_ | i don't think that a uncompression algorithem would working reliable fast on the unit |
| 13:06:13 | _FireFly_ | and at least the deflate algo needs malloc |
| 13:06:24 | amiconn | markun: The biggest problem is that I don't (yet) know where it goes wrong |
| 13:06:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | But even uncompressed, having it be one file is useful. |
| 13:06:41 | amiconn | Perhaps I should put my code into a plugin and test there |
| 13:07:02 | amiconn | Alternatively I'm thinking about "morse" output of some bytes |
| 13:07:19 | _FireFly_ | like the post code of the bios on pc |
| 13:07:20 | amiconn | "Blinking" the bits with the red LED |
| 13:07:28 | JdGordon | .. compiling... |
| 13:07:28 | markun | latest patch: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/unicode3.diff.gz |
| 13:07:30 | amiconn | short == 0, long == 1 |
| 13:07:38 | markun | Cool :) |
| 13:07:50 | JdGordon | done with no errors :O |
| 13:07:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | You know, it's astonishing how many "knowledgeable" people these days don't recognize that the post beeps are an interpretable error code when something goes wrong. |
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| 13:09:03 | markun | amiconn: can you check if the archos recorder v1 builds with the unicode patch when you have time? |
| 13:09:15 | JdGordon | Paul_The_Nerd: post beeps are bloody annoying tho |
| 13:09:20 | JdGordon | stupid high pitch |
| 13:09:23 | markun | I also fixed unicode for H3xx and the remote |
| 13:09:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: Yes, but sometimes they're all you've got. |
| 13:09:35 | markun | and ipod I hope |
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| 13:09:42 | JdGordon | unfortunatly |
| 13:09:44 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: How does your unzip work? Is it designed to be a plugin or to be incorporated into core rockbox? |
| 13:10:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently I'll have an iPod Nano by January 12th, it seems. |
| 13:10:18 | JdGordon | linuxstb: it works.. needs some minor tweaking tho |
| 13:10:24 | _FireFly_ | currently i have only some test code working on my pc and i thought to use this for loading theme-packages |
| 13:10:39 | _FireFly_ | or in the first stage simply pack together the wps-files |
| 13:12:10 | _FireFly_ | due the fact that only uncompressed zips i will support the function will seek to the stating-point of the file-data and then read or read_line can be used to read the data form the file |
| 13:12:55 | _FireFly_ | *starting-point* |
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| 13:17:20 | _FireFly_ | i have currently no idea if i should do have an function which makes an index of the files in the zip-file or if i simply search each file in the zip |
| 13:17:36 | _FireFly_ | when a file is requested |
| 13:18:46 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: I don't think we need compression for the wps files - just a way to combine them into a single file. So we could maybe use a simpler format than zip - e.g. tar |
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| 13:19:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Really, you could leave it text only |
| 13:19:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | You just have %wps and %rwps tags in it |
| 13:19:18 | _FireFly_ | afaik has tar a bigger overhead then zip |
| 13:19:19 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 13:19:19 | * | amiconn would still prefer the combined bmp solution |
| 13:19:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Defining where the breaks are |
| 13:19:34 | linuxstb | amiconn: I agree. |
| 13:19:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | And then allow people to specificy the font before the %wps |
| 13:19:40 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: we could combine these two |
| 13:19:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though that doesn't let you include the bmps... |
| 13:20:12 | _FireFly_ | i have already working code for combined-bitmaps:) |
| 13:21:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | non-compressed zip or tar is probably the best. Doesn't change any of the way the tags and files work, it just lumps 'em together for easy handling, storage, and sharing with friends. |
| 13:22:37 | muesli_- | can somebody provide a FREE fat32 >32gb formatter? |
| 13:23:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Win32? |
| 13:23:03 | linuxstb | A Linux live-CD? |
| 13:23:09 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: i have just made a test: i have packed a file with 75Bytes with tar and zip (-0 uncomppressed) |
| 13:23:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://www.compuapps.com/Download/swissknife/swissknife.htm |
| 13:23:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's Free as in beer, at least |
| 13:23:34 | _FireFly_ | the size of the tar is 10240bytes and for the zip only 219bytes |
| 13:23:42 | muesli_- | cheers Paul_The_Nerd |
| 13:23:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | I believe that will work |
| 13:24:01 | Lost-ash | _FireFly_: tar doesn't compress |
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| 13:24:19 | _FireFly_ | and zip either if you spezify it ;) |
| 13:24:24 | _FireFly_ | specify |
| 13:24:33 | Lost-ash | hang on, what are we attemptign to compress ? |
| 13:24:33 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: I think you can change the block size for tar - e.g. "-b 1" |
| 13:24:36 | _FireFly_ | i have used the zip-cmd tool under linux |
| 13:24:43 | Lost-ash | well. pack |
| 13:25:14 | _FireFly_ | with -0 as option |
| 13:25:25 | Lost-ash | muesli_-: mkfs.vfat can do > 32GB iirc |
| 13:25:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Lost-ash: nothing yet. Theoretically, themes. (.wps, .rwps, .cfg, and all .bmps) |
| 13:26:08 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: the new tar(with -b 1) is 2048bytes |
| 13:26:20 | muesli_- | Lost-ash sounds like a linux version..i like to push mice |
| 13:27:10 | Lost-ash | muesli_-: ah. hrm. uh. reboot with a win98 boot floppy? |
| 13:27:18 | Lost-ash | (and a copy of win98's format) |
| 13:27:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | win98's format is probably not capable. |
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| 13:27:37 | Lost-ash | _FireFly_: aah yes. tar's block oriented, that'd do it |
| 13:27:53 | Lost-ash | Paul_The_Nerd: capable of what? |
| 13:28:13 | Lost-ash | i've formatted a 120GB drive with it in the past |
| 13:28:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hrm |
| 13:28:28 | * | JdGordon wishes there was a faster way to copy single files to the player :'( |
| 13:28:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I thought it had the limit... |
| 13:28:44 | Lost-ash | it's winxp's format util that refuses to do >32GB |
| 13:29:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fair enough |
| 13:29:16 | _FireFly_ | but theoverhead is bigger the of uncompressed zip-files |
| 13:29:16 | _FireFly_ | the overhead* |
| 13:29:16 | _FireFly_ | *then of* |
| 13:29:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's been a long time since I've used a dos-based floppy-based solution. |
| 13:29:52 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has migrated to the LiveCD solution method. |
| 13:29:57 | Lost-ash | Paul_The_Nerd: that's okay. burn it to a CD :) |
| 13:29:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, LiveDVD nowadays, in most cases. |
| 13:30:18 | Lost-ash | muesli_-: that's a point. if you're familiar enough, you could boot a small liveCD that has mkfs.vfat on it and use that |
| 13:30:32 | muesli_- | ok |
| 13:31:03 | Lost-ash | muesli_-: what specifically are you trying to format? |
| 13:31:27 | muesli_- | a mate tries to format his 60gb hdd in its h320 |
| 13:31:37 | _FireFly_ | muesli_-: simple use this cmd-line: mkfs.vfat -F32 <device> |
| 13:31:44 | JdGordon | sudoku for the h300 is finished :D |
| 13:32:01 | _FireFly_ | where <device> is /dev/sd* for the h320 |
| 13:32:01 | JdGordon | cept the numbers could prob look better :p |
| 13:32:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Too bad you can't just use the existing fonts. |
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| 13:32:37 | muesli_- | _FireFly_ i will my m8... |
| 13:32:39 | muesli_- | tell |
| 13:32:46 | _FireFly_ | e.g. the h320 device is /dev/sda and you want to format the first primary-partition: |
| 13:33:02 | _FireFly_ | mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sda1 |
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| 13:34:00 | _FireFly_ | -F tells mkfs.vfat that it should use 32bit(= FAT32) |
| 13:34:09 | _FireFly_ | -F32 i mean |
| 13:34:29 | JdGordon | linuxstb_: who do i send the changes to? |
| 13:34:51 | _FireFly_ | patch-tracker i think |
| 13:35:53 | JdGordon | :( i cant just email some1 the new code? |
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| 13:39:16 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: You can mail them to me - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DaveChapman |
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| 13:40:48 | JdGordon | oh, how do u draw a horiz line in colour? |
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| 13:53:11 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: I think you should use lcd_set_foreground(LCD_RGBPACK(r,g,b)) and surround it by #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR |
| 13:53:48 | JdGordon | too hard :p |
| 13:54:02 | JdGordon | and getting the damn board to draw correctly is a huge pain.. |
| 13:54:14 | linuxstb_ | What's the problem? |
| 13:54:28 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb_: i think zip has also the advantage beside the lower overhead that every rockbox user has an zip creating program |
| 13:54:33 | JdGordon | the fact that i need more sleep and numbers arnt making sense :P |
| 13:55:08 | linuxstb_ | Have you calculated cellxpos and cellypos (they should be the same) ? |
| 13:56:08 | JdGordon | ye, thats whats been bothering me... i tink i finally got it |
| 13:56:15 | JdGordon | yup |
| 13:56:17 | JdGordon | works great now |
| 13:56:30 | JdGordon | finished :D |
| 13:56:34 | JdGordon | any1 want the .rock? |
| 13:56:35 | muesli_- | Paul_The_Nerd does swissknife work in xp? |
| 13:56:58 | linuxstb_ | It's no use to me, but I can try it in the h300 sim if you can put the source on the web somewhere. |
| 13:57:26 | JdGordon | it didnt work in the sim for me.. said wastnn a valid win32 archive.. (compiled for the h300 sim).. |
| 13:58:58 | _FireFly_ | muesli_-: afaik is swissknife a linuxe-boot-cd |
| 13:59:31 | muesli_- | _FireFly_ its a win tool to format fats bigger than 32gb |
| 13:59:37 | muesli_- | brb |
| 13:59:52 | _FireFly_ | muesli_-: i'm wrong : http://www.compuapps.com/Download/swissknife/swissknife.htm |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:01 | _FireFly_ | but it works under XP |
| 14:00:22 | JdGordon | patch sent of to the guy... |
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| 14:01:30 | JdGordon | if any1 wants it... http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/sudoku.rock <- h300 ONLY |
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| 14:01:41 | muesli_- | re |
| 14:01:48 | _FireFly_ | muesli_-: i'm wrong : http://www.compuapps.com/Download/swissknife/swissknife.htm |
| 14:01:53 | _FireFly_ | it works under XP |
| 14:02:07 | muesli_- | it depacks and nothin happens :p |
| 14:02:08 | muesli_- | :o |
| 14:02:14 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: Can you upload sudoku.c to the same place? |
| 14:02:28 | JdGordon | ye |
| 14:02:30 | JdGordon | 1 sek |
| 14:02:41 | amiconn | blink_byte() actually helped to find a problem... |
| 14:03:15 | JdGordon | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/sudoku.zip |
| 14:03:26 | JdGordon | u need to fiddle with SOURCES so it compiles |
| 14:03:28 | markun | amiconn: great! |
| 14:03:49 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: Thanks, I've downloaded it. |
| 14:05:45 | muesli_- | _FireFly_ h2format.zip 26.188 10.01.03 Windows NT/2000/XP: H2Format V 1.6, formatiert eine unformatierte Partition mit FAT32-Dateisystem, "Groformat" c't 2/03, Seite 170 |
| 14:05:56 | muesli_- | mayb that will do it too |
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| 14:06:11 | _FireFly_ | should be :) |
| 14:07:00 | muesli_- | any idea why m$ doesnt allow partitions bigger than 32gb? they are causing so much trouble with that shitty bevaviour |
| 14:07:00 | JdGordon | gnite all |
| 14:07:10 | muesli_- | n8 m8 |
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| 14:07:22 | leftright | Slasher: love the crossfade, especially the enbale if shuffle feature, that with track gain if shuffled is a good match |
| 14:07:23 | amiconn | muesli_-: They want to push NTFS |
| 14:07:28 | _FireFly_ | muesli_-: i think they want to push ntfs |
| 14:07:31 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 14:07:40 | muesli_- | ;) |
| 14:07:45 | muesli_- | makes sense |
| 14:07:46 | muesli_- | ;) |
| 14:07:55 | amiconn | (and obviously didn't think about modile devices) |
| 14:08:00 | amiconn | *mobile |
| 14:08:17 | muesli_- | when did m$ ever thought anything ;))) |
| 14:08:21 | muesli_- | think |
| 14:13:00 | ^Guest37784 | how i can get into the main menu on rockbox h320 |
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| 14:13:30 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Have you tried the h300 sim under Wine? |
| 14:13:40 | ep0ch| | well on ihp-120 its the A-B button |
| 14:13:46 | ^BeN^ | im not on linux |
| 14:13:55 | ^BeN^ | ok its the a-b bottom |
| 14:14:01 | ^BeN^ | i hold it |
| 14:14:07 | amiconn | linuxstb_: No, I tried h120 and recorder, but H300 should work too |
| 14:14:07 | ^BeN^ | and its not in |
| 14:14:09 | ^BeN^ | =] |
| 14:14:16 | ^BeN^ | but ineed to only press |
| 14:16:44 | _FireFly_ | ^BeN^: only press and not hold the A-B button to get into the main-menu |
| 14:17:13 | ^BeN^ | k =] |
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| 14:18:43 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: I'm having trouble with the buttons. But maybe it's just me. The keys displayed on the bitmap don't work, but using other keys does. |
| 14:18:55 | amiconn | Yes |
| 14:19:01 | amiconn | That seems to be a wine problem |
| 14:19:15 | linuxstb_ | e.g. if I press 5 on the numeric keypad, nothing else seems to work aftewards. But if I use SPACE instead, then it's OK. |
| 14:19:18 | amiconn | Most buttons have 2 keys mapped |
| 14:19:32 | amiconn | The numpad 5 hangs it for whatever reason |
| 14:19:55 | amiconn | Select is either Num-5 or Space |
| 14:20:25 | amiconn | A-B is either Decimal Separator or Ins |
| 14:20:41 | ep0ch| | would be nice if you could click on the image to simulate the relevant button press |
| 14:20:45 | linuxstb_ | So if I ignore the keys on the bitmap it works :) |
| 14:20:47 | amiconn | Num-2, 4, 6, 8 or doubled by the cursor keys |
| 14:20:57 | amiconn | ep0ch|: Yes |
| 14:21:05 | amiconn | s/or/are/ |
| 14:25:28 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Thanks, I've got it working now. |
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| 14:26:41 | * | linuxstb_ wonders why JdGordon chose grey as the colour-scheme for Sudoku. |
| 14:27:20 | Kafka | mm hey peolpe |
| 14:27:40 | ^BeN^ | the rockbox is cool =] |
| 14:27:49 | Kafka | who's the best source of info about the dev kit? |
| 14:27:53 | ^BeN^ | can i play gamebot advance games? |
| 14:28:29 | linuxstb_ | Does the h1x0 remote LCD have square pixels? |
| 14:29:01 | markun | ^BeN^: not with rockboy |
| 14:32:37 | ^BeN^ | with? |
| 14:32:49 | ^BeN^ | with waht? |
| 14:32:49 | ^BeN^ | = |
| 14:32:51 | ^BeN^ | =\ |
| 14:33:12 | _FireFly_ | you can't play gba-games in rockbox |
| 14:33:52 | ^BeN^ | ok |
| 14:33:56 | ^BeN^ | =] |
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| 14:35:44 | webguest73 | hello guys :D whats new in the bootloader v2 for h3xx? |
| 14:36:43 | webguest73 | music playback?:D |
| 14:37:03 | perplexity | Reliable reset for the DAC |
| 14:37:27 | | Part leftright |
| 14:37:39 | webguest73 | what is Bleeding Edge builds? |
| 14:38:18 | ep0ch| | the latest and greatest |
| 14:38:47 | Kohlrabi | :) |
| 14:39:14 | ashridah | webguest73: basically rebuilt whenever there's a checkin to the CVS tree (or every 15 minutes or something) |
| 14:39:18 | ashridah | greatest is debatable |
| 14:39:24 | webguest73 | yes so now i can have music playback :D! |
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| 14:41:36 | ashridah | there's a couple of limitations atm |
| 14:41:59 | ashridah | since the cpu frequency is clamped at 90MHz, some codecs that should run perfectly skip a bit since they can't keep the pcm buffer full enough |
| 14:42:01 | webguest73 | lika what? |
| 14:42:47 | ashridah | until linus discovers why the unit is acting strangely > 90MHz, it's going to stay there. |
| 14:42:50 | ashridah | ogg Vorbis in particular seems to be affected |
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| 14:44:35 | Jungti1234 | damn linux |
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| 14:46:12 | linuxstb_ | Limiting the H300's CPU to 90MHz is a good test for the codecs. Ideally, they should all be capable of realtime decoding at that speed, but obviously vorbis needs more work. |
| 14:46:32 | linuxstb_ | Does everything else decode OK on the H300? |
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| 14:47:11 | ep0ch| | i think vorbis will probably have problems at 90 mhz if encoded at q6 or above |
| 14:47:18 | ashridah | linuxstb_: mp3 seems to. the lossless ones that run at like 1-2% at most probably do too :) |
| 14:47:29 | ashridah | but yeah, high bit rate vorbis has issues. |
| 14:47:55 | ashridah | (admittedly, i think -q10 vorbis files have issues at 120MHz, i seem to recall making those myself and running into issues |
| 14:48:58 | ep0ch| | -q4 ~= 128 kbps is about 33% cpu boost at 120 MHz |
| 14:50:42 | markun | amiconn: If the latest unicode patch works for recorder v1 it might be ready for commit, what do you think? |
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| 14:53:50 | amiconn | markun: I'd rather want to wait a bit, and see the full version committed when selfextraction is in place |
| 14:54:00 | Lear | In the recording screen, what is the difference between e.g., "Gain Left" and "ADC Gain Left"? |
| 14:54:13 | markun | also fine by me. |
| 14:54:58 | markun | although it's now only a matter of removing #define NO_ARABJOIN |
| 14:54:59 | amiconn | Now it doesn't hang when copying the compressed data, and the compressed data reaches its destination correctly, |
| 14:55:02 | ^BeN^ | some one can compile the rockbox simulature for me? |
| 14:55:20 | amiconn | but somehow the ucl decompressor decompresses garbage |
| 14:55:23 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Do you know if the h1x0 remote lcd has square pixels? I'm thinking of adding remote support to sudoku. |
| 14:55:42 | amiconn | I wonder why; this was plain copy & paste from the flash bootloader |
| 14:55:51 | amiconn | linuxstb_: I think so |
| 14:56:05 | amiconn | Don't have my remote with me |
| 14:56:15 | amiconn | ...in fact no iriver at all |
| 14:57:01 | markun | amiconn: yes, very strange |
| 14:59:09 | markun | If it's a play copy paste it might be a very stupid mistake you are overlooking |
| 14:59:20 | markun | That happens to me all the time at least :) |
| 14:59:40 | amiconn | Yes, probably |
| 15:00 |
| 15:00:08 | amiconn | In fact there was a number of such mistakes which I already found |
| 15:00:16 | markun | "THIS CODE IS EXACTLY THE SAME SO IT SHOULD.. oh.. I found it.. nevermind" :) |
| 15:00:38 | amiconn | (like doing an unaligned long copy which won't work on the SH) |
| 15:00:49 | amiconn | Remember: I have no exception handling... |
| 15:01:15 | markun | What kind of things are you outputting to the LED? |
| 15:01:39 | amiconn | Just bytes |
| 15:02:11 | linuxstb_ | Is the mono bitmap format for the remote LCDs the same as the Recorder? |
| 15:02:18 | amiconn | Yes |
| 15:02:29 | amiconn | It's the same as for all current targets |
| 15:02:52 | Kafka | uhh, i'm having a bit of a prob with the dev kit if anybody could help me |
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| 15:03:18 | Kafka | rbconf is missing |
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| 15:15:42 | amiconn | markun: The latest unicode patch does build for recorder, it's tight though (810 bytes below barrier) |
| 15:15:55 | amiconn | There is a couple of warnings though |
| 15:16:19 | amiconn | 6 warnings in bidi.c about unused variables |
| 15:16:53 | amiconn | 2 warnings in plugin.c about initialization from incompatible pointer type |
| 15:19:06 | Slasher | interesting, i just found that settings are saved _way_ too often on iriver when buffering. That increases buffering time slightly, uses more battery and disk user can feel disk heads moving |
| 15:19:55 | Slasher | Then converted settings_save function to a dumb function, and i can no longer feel disk heads moving while buffering |
| 15:20:36 | ashridah | perhaps it should just be changed to something that sets a flag, and then whenever the disk shutdown routine is goign to run, it does it then? |
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| 15:20:58 | ashridah | hm. suppose you still need a way to force it |
| 15:21:01 | Philip | WOW music is working!!! |
| 15:21:12 | Slasher | Hmm, that sounds good. I am just looking at the code to find why there is such a behaviour |
| 15:21:26 | ashridah | yes, of course, finding the culprit is probably better :) |
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| 15:22:20 | amiconn | Slasher: Perhaps settings_save() is just called way too often? |
| 15:22:35 | Slasher | amiconn: that is probably the reason |
| 15:23:04 | Slasher | i have yet no idea where it's called too often from.. But i will add logf to every function to find that out :) |
| 15:23:41 | perplexity | Can you just put a debug somewhere in settings_save() looking at the stack to see where it was called from? |
| 15:24:25 | Slasher | preglow: Hmm, probably yes but that sounds more complicated than putting a message to the functions which call the settings_save |
| 15:24:43 | perplexity | Guess so.. certainly more elegant however :) |
| 15:24:50 | Slasher | :) |
| 15:25:25 | Kafka | help me :x |
| 15:26:36 | Slasher | ah, that's playlist_update_resume_info probably |
| 15:26:50 | perplexity | What be your problem Kafka ? |
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| 15:28:10 | perplexity | Thinking about it, why would you update resume info at any other time than a shutdown? Or is it trying to pre-empt a crash? |
| 15:28:48 | amiconn | Resume info should be updated every now and then |
| 15:29:04 | amiconn | It wouldn't be possible to save in a low-bat situation |
| 15:29:20 | perplexity | Perhaps just prior to spinning the disk down each time? |
| 15:29:23 | Slasher | perplexity: that is a good question. Probably the solution could be to remove the automatic call to that function on SYS_TIMEOUT in audio thread |
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| 15:29:28 | amiconn | But of course, saving it more than once during one buffer refill is overkill |
| 15:29:35 | perplexity | I can certainly see a case for not updating it while anything else is happening to the disk |
| 15:29:51 | amiconn | The ata driver only saves the config sector when the disk is spinning |
| 15:30:02 | Slasher | amiconn: I think currently it's saved possible even hundred of times during buffer refilling.. :D |
| 15:30:08 | Slasher | +s |
| 15:30:21 | amiconn | Yes, because settings_save is called way too often |
| 15:30:38 | perplexity | That makes sense amiconn, but I'd not be saving it while anything else is happening.. and given the default disk timeout is about 5s, I could see a case for saving it just prior to powerdown |
| 15:31:35 | preglow | Slasher: ? |
| 15:31:44 | Slasher | preglow: hi |
| 15:32:02 | perplexity | I was timing today and a buffer refill for me was taking about 30-40 seconds.. I could certainly feel the heads thrashing around quite a bit.. |
| 15:32:06 | preglow | i assume you used the wrong nick up there? heh |
| 15:32:06 | Slasher | preglow: oh, sorry. That message was meant to perplexity.. :) |
| 15:32:09 | Slasher | yes |
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| 15:32:46 | Slasher | little tired now, so typos and wrong nicks are likely ;D |
| 15:34:29 | Slasher | amiconn: hehe :D now i removed that (unnecessary?) call from audio thread and dircache building time is now 8s (it was previously 10s)! |
| 15:35:18 | preglow | woot! |
| 15:35:25 | perplexity | Which file is that in Slasher ? (I'm only just getting familiar with the rockbox codebase) |
| 15:35:25 | preglow | i love the dircache |
| 15:35:50 | * | amiconn disabled the dircache again |
| 15:36:03 | Slasher | that is quite significant performance boost to whole rockbox because that function must have eaten some cpu too |
| 15:36:23 | markun | amiconn: I removed the bidi warnings |
| 15:36:48 | Slasher | yes, the boot is now much faster. I will commit that change |
| 15:37:16 | ashridah | yay! |
| 15:37:17 | amiconn | I hope you didn't completely remove the settings_save calls from audio |
| 15:37:30 | Slasher | amiconn: nope, only the one automatic call |
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| 15:37:39 | Slasher | settings are saved anyway when stopping audio |
| 15:37:45 | Slasher | i tested that resume still works |
| 15:38:05 | amiconn | It needs to be called on stop, on shutdown, and at least once when rebuffering |
| 15:38:35 | Slasher | Hmm, why when rebuffering? If battery goes empty? |
| 15:38:40 | amiconn | yup |
| 15:38:50 | Slasher | ok, i will add the call to a better place then |
| 15:39:08 | perplexity | What about at the start of rebuffering.. just once ? |
| 15:39:12 | amiconn | This ensures that resume will happen at the latest rebuffer point if the next spinup fails because of low bat |
| 15:39:30 | Slasher | perplexity: that is probably good place to put that call |
| 15:39:40 | amiconn | Yes, once per rebuffer cycle is enough |
| 15:40:13 | ashridah | Slasher: want to make sure that doesn't extend the time-to-begin-fill too much tho |
| 15:40:19 | Lear | Hm... But the buffer can contain more than half an hour of playback... |
| 15:40:33 | amiconn | yes |
| 15:40:49 | perplexity | Well, while the buffer is playing the disk is spun down and it's not being saved in any case.. right? |
| 15:40:50 | amiconn | We have to live with that unless we want to spinup more often |
| 15:40:55 | amiconn | ...which we dont |
| 15:41:33 | * | ashridah looks at his 450kbps oggs and wonders if that's really true :) |
| 15:41:34 | Lear | True... |
| 15:41:38 | Slasher | ashridah: it doesn't extend it because now the settings are stored only once instead of hundreds of times during buffering |
| 15:42:25 | amiconn | Slasher: wait a mom... |
| 15:42:57 | perplexity | I'm assuming audio_fill_file_buffer is where we re-buffer the data? |
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| 15:44:20 | Slasher | amiconn: hmm, did you find something? |
| 15:45:14 | Lear | Interesting... Comment in ata.c says the delayed write should only happen during spinup, but is in fact done at each sector read/write. |
| 15:45:45 | amiconn | nope |
| 15:45:55 | amiconn | It only happens if there is data to flush |
| 15:46:29 | Lear | Yes, but the check is done at each read/write. |
| 15:46:33 | amiconn | Slasher: I'm not sure, but it might be that you don't need to call settings_save at all from within the playback engine |
| 15:46:58 | amiconn | It seems wps & co do the dirty job for you |
| 15:47:29 | Slasher | amiconn: Hmm, but probably i need the playlist_update_resume_info call still that calls the save_settings |
| 15:47:34 | Slasher | I will commit now :) |
| 15:47:38 | amiconn | The archos playback engine doesn't do a single call to settings_save |
| 15:47:44 | amiconn | Ah |
| 15:47:48 | amiconn | Lemme check |
| 15:48:40 | markun | amiconn: no more warnings |
| 15:49:04 | Lear | Looks like mpeg.c and playback.c calls playlist_update_resume_info at about the same times... |
| 15:49:06 | perplexity | .....waiting for my buffer refil..... |
| 15:49:11 | amiconn | Slasher: The archos playback engine does it as follows: |
| 15:49:42 | amiconn | It calls playlist_update_resume_info() at Stop, at Pause, at trackchange, or twice per second |
| 15:49:45 | Slasher | amiconn: Probably archos has the same issue then |
| 15:50:22 | amiconn | The twice-per-second call only happens when there are no other events to process |
| 15:50:27 | Slasher | amiconn: committed |
| 15:51:01 | Slasher | Hmm, it might not be a problem for archos then because the playback engine might behave differently |
| 15:51:09 | perplexity | wooo.. buffer refill appears faster and smoother |
| 15:51:15 | amiconn | gtg |
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| 15:52:49 | San | hey lads :D |
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| 15:53:20 | Lear | Slasheri: Well, for one thing, rebuffering is much faster because the buffer is much smaller... :) |
| 15:54:11 | Grimbly | Hi all - top news on the H300 firmware!!! |
| 15:54:21 | San | yey! |
| 15:54:32 | Grimbly | I've got a question about playlists - anyone help ? |
| 15:54:34 | Philip | yep :) |
| 15:54:41 | San | do I download the fwpatcher.exe or the fwpatchernu.exe? |
| 15:54:50 | Philip | first one |
| 15:54:56 | Grimbly | Well - is there an option to scan for playlists.... |
| 15:54:56 | San | kk |
| 15:55:02 | Philip | unless your using win 9x |
| 15:55:05 | San | how is it? |
| 15:55:14 | Philip | working:D |
| 15:55:23 | San | sweet :D |
| 15:55:31 | Philip | but the ID3 database seems to crash the player... |
| 15:55:49 | San | so, only songs with no id3 tags work? |
| 15:55:53 | San | ooh, the database |
| 15:56:00 | Grimbly | ID3 database - how does one access that ?? |
| 15:56:00 | Philip | yeh |
| 15:56:33 | Philip | you need to download more files from the rockbox site but i don't think it works yet so there is not much point... |
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| 15:57:36 | chopped_pork | Philip: what's player do you have? |
| 15:57:46 | chopped_pork | ie which h3x0 |
| 15:57:59 | Philip | H340 int |
| 15:58:01 | Grimbly | Just out of interest where are the ID3 database files ?? |
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| 15:58:13 | Lear | Slasheri: Uh oh, runtime info (in debug menu) is updated by settings_save... |
| 15:58:32 | Philip | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagDatabase |
| 15:58:37 | Grimbly | Ta! |
| 15:59:02 | Slasher | Lear: that is not affected because settings are saved normally on shutdown. I just have removed the unnecessary calls to playlist_update_resume_info |
| 15:59:14 | perplexity | It still appears to be thrashing the heads on a buffer read, just not as much.. I wonder if there is something else going on also.. |
| 15:59:44 | Slasher | perplexity: the heads are moving when new song is loaded (tag info read) |
| 15:59:59 | perplexity | Hrm.. even if you have no tag info? |
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| 16:00:02 | chopped_pork | Philip: cool, thanks |
| 16:00:16 | Slasher | perplexity: yes, probably |
| 16:00:19 | Lear | Slahser: But playlist_update_resume_info calls settings_save, which in turn updates the runtime. So it would not update in "real time" the way it did now. |
| 16:00:27 | perplexity | fair call.. oh well, it's faster in any case |
| 16:00:47 | perplexity | But it still only does that when the disk is spun up in any case Lear |
| 16:00:51 | Slasher | Lear: Hmm.. but that is still wrong if playlist_update_resume_info should update runtime too.. |
| 16:00:52 | Grimbly | Is there anyway to do a scan of all the playlists ? |
| 16:01:03 | * | San firmware upgrades |
| 16:01:07 | * | San crosses fingers |
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| 16:02:16 | Lear | Side effect of settings_save... |
| 16:02:28 | perplexity | I wonder.. the iriver firmware shuts the screen off completely when it's blank.. I wonder how much battery life could be saved on the h3x0 (where the screen is useless without the backlight) by not updating the LCD while it's off.. no graphics for peak meters and such.. |
| 16:02:34 | Grimbly | Good luck San |
| 16:02:42 | San | OMG |
| 16:02:45 | San | it works! |
| 16:02:55 | Grimbly | Welcome to Rockbox world - it Rules! |
| 16:02:59 | * | San loves you guys! |
| 16:03:12 | Grimbly | Having a H340 that boots up <10 secs is awesome |
| 16:03:18 | San | me too |
| 16:03:28 | Grimbly | Wait till you play with Rockboy! |
| 16:03:40 | perplexity | From power button to music in 8 sec here.. it's great in the car |
| 16:03:43 | San | i have been playing it for ages |
| 16:03:49 | San | OMG, gapless |
| 16:04:05 | Grimbly | The best bit is crossfading - that is just SOOOOO cool!!! |
| 16:04:14 | San | yeah |
| 16:04:32 | leftright | I had a strange 140 playback bug a few days ago, with follow directories enabled, it repeated the last file of the album 3 times then it frooze the player up, had to do a reset to get it working again |
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| 16:05:04 | Grimbly | As before - can you do an auto-scan for Playlists ?? |
| 16:07:33 | Lear | Slasher: Maybe the ATA driver should send an event when it spins up? Or is about to spin down? |
| 16:08:34 | Slasher | Lear: I think that if you want to be sure the runtime info gets saved on shutdown, you should force the settings_save |
| 16:09:41 | Slasher | and of course the runtime has to be saved on every shutdown, if you want it to be accurate |
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| 16:10:14 | San||Away | sorry bout |
| 16:10:16 | San||Away | that |
| 16:10:19 | San||Away | power went :( |
| 16:10:23 | Slasher | just playback engine is not correct place to save it (and it has never even did that before) |
| 16:10:28 | San||Away | anyway, how do I get gapless? |
| 16:11:25 | Lear | For Vorbis, nothing, for MP3, use LAME. |
| 16:11:25 | markun | San||Away: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GaplessHowTo |
| 16:11:36 | leftright | ogg is naively gapless, mp3 should be encoded with LAME |
| 16:11:50 | San||Away | ty |
| 16:12:06 | Slasher | Lear: hmm, interesting. Can you still reproduce that freezing bug? |
| 16:12:12 | Slasher | leftright.. |
| 16:12:57 | leftright | Hi there slasher |
| 16:13:08 | San||Away | any way of crossfading? it doesn't seem to work in the menu |
| 16:13:09 | Slasher | hi :) |
| 16:13:30 | leftright | how the military treating you ? |
| 16:13:38 | leftright | s |
| 16:13:54 | Slasher | it's good so far, not so bad ;) |
| 16:14:55 | ^BeN^ | mmm there is a good theme for rockbox on h300? |
| 16:15:04 | preglow | San||Away: you don't have to enable gapless or anything, if the files are gaplessly encoded, then they will be played back so |
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| 16:15:14 | markun | When a string is very long it scrolls all the time. I changed it to pause for a while when it's back at the beginning. What do you think of this? |
| 16:15:37 | preglow | does it only do so when it's long? |
| 16:16:06 | markun | Well, when it's not 2x as long as the screen it scrolls back and forth |
| 16:16:17 | preglow | yeah, that's right |
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| 16:16:22 | preglow | well, sounds ok to me |
| 16:16:41 | San||Away | preglow:they should be gaplessly encoded. They play fine in FooBar |
| 16:16:41 | markun | And it pauses when it reaches the beginning or the end. |
| 16:16:50 | preglow | San||Away: what files are we talking about? |
| 16:17:14 | San||Away | mp3 |
| 16:17:14 | markun | It's it's longer than 2x the screen width it doesn't pause at all. Makes me nervous when I look at it. |
| 16:17:21 | San||Away | lame |
| 16:17:28 | markun | s/It's/When/ |
| 16:17:30 | preglow | San||Away: go check their properties in foobar, and check if it says mp3_accurate_length = true |
| 16:17:41 | San||Away | kk |
| 16:18:43 | San||Away | aah |
| 16:18:49 | San||Away | i use crossfad in foobar |
| 16:18:50 | San||Away | sorry |
| 16:18:58 | * | San||Away will re-rip |
| 16:19:06 | preglow | first of all, they need to say that in foobar for them to be gapless |
| 16:19:20 | preglow | second: i'm not completely sure gapless playback of mp3s is watertight in rockbox yet |
| 16:19:50 | preglow | but i've done what i can so far |
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| 16:25:06 | DocBrown | Hi! Anybody else here whose H3x0 doesn't boot after installing the bootloader? After pressing play LCD stays black and HD spins up |
| 16:26:17 | perplexity | I believe that is a know problem with a few units.. you should be able to hold play and rec on power-on and still get into the iriver firmware though |
| 16:27:18 | DocBrown | No, even that doesn't work. There are some tricks to get back to iriver FW, however. So it's not bricked... |
| 16:27:49 | perplexity | Last I saw some kind person was going to ship an affected unit to Linus for investigation.. |
| 16:28:09 | DocBrown | Oh, fine... |
| 16:28:28 | perplexity | Until then I'm afraid it looks like back to the iriver firmware |
| 16:30:03 | DocBrown | Yep... If there's anything I can do, post it here... |
| 16:31:04 | perplexity | As in, anything you can help with, or anything you can do to get back to the iriver firmware? |
| 16:31:20 | Benacool | when you hold rec and on at the same time for like 5 seconds it do nothing ? |
| 16:32:03 | perplexity | I just hold rec while powering on with play, as soon as the screen lights up and it flickers the message about original firmware I release rec and hold play until the iriver firmware starts to boot |
| 16:32:26 | Benacool | you must hold rec AND on |
| 16:32:45 | perplexity | That is what I said |
| 16:33:03 | Benacool | you said: I release rec and hold play |
| 16:33:06 | DocBrown | No, no problem in getting back to iriver fw |
| 16:33:23 | perplexity | As soon as it brings the message about booting original firmware you can release rec.. |
| 16:33:24 | DocBrown | i can reset the unit and immediately press play, then iriver fw boots |
| 16:33:41 | DocBrown | PLAY and REC doesn't work |
| 16:34:05 | Benacool | the rockbox folder is on your hd ? |
| 16:34:12 | DocBrown | Yes |
| 16:34:57 | Benacool | the rockbox.iriver file too ? |
| 16:35:10 | DocBrown | Yep |
| 16:35:17 | Benacool | strange ... |
| 16:35:18 | perplexity | Benacool, it's a bootloader issue.. it never gets to reading the disk.. |
| 16:35:33 | Benacool | ok ^^' |
| 16:35:34 | DocBrown | That's my impression as well |
| 16:36:47 | DocBrown | and to answer the question up there: If there is anything I can help with, tell me (e.g. testing key combinations) |
| 16:38:05 | dwihno | yum! bootloader! |
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| 16:42:51 | DocBrown | Or changing something in the HD config like partitioning? |
| 16:43:38 | DocBrown | Have not changed anything before, to prevent that question :-) |
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| 16:46:28 | chopped_pork | yet another h340intl flashed & working :) |
| 16:47:26 | DocBrown | Congrats, lucky boy or girl... |
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| 16:50:13 | wubbla | DocBrown: i just wanted to tell you that i'm experiencing the same issue with my h320 |
| 16:50:30 | bobwise | Can anyone help me, I had the backlight on all the time, while checking out the new build for the h320, and when I tried to change it to save the battery, and now I have no backlight, |
| 16:51:10 | perplexity | With a bright light you can still read the lcd without the backlight.. or you can try to follow some dodgy instructions from me if you like.. |
| 16:51:43 | bobwise | ok, let me look for a light |
| 16:52:10 | perplexity | (A-B)(-)(-)(NAVI)(-)(-)(NAVI)(-)(-)(-)(NAVI)(NAVI)(-) should get you backlight again |
| 16:54:28 | DocBrown | wubbla: so the problem in not restricted to two players in the world... welcome to the not-so-lucky club |
| 16:55:39 | wubbla | DocBrown: hehe ;-) |
| 16:55:51 | wubbla | DocBrown: may i ask where you're from? |
| 16:56:01 | DocBrown | Muenster, Germany |
| 16:57:07 | Benacool | we must use LAME to encode mp3s in gapless ... so i usually use EAC to encode my mp3s with LAME... do I have to configure something else in EAC to be sure that it will be gapless ? |
| 16:57:29 | wubbla | DocBrown: ok, then you're located nearer to sweden than i am... |
| 16:57:40 | wubbla | DocBrown: because i'm from austria |
| 16:57:51 | markun | DocBrown: quite close to me: Enschede |
| 16:57:59 | wubbla | DocBrown: and i also assume that you already know what that means... :-) |
| 16:58:06 | wubbla | DocBrown: do you? |
| 16:58:28 | DocBrown | You mean me sending my unit to Sweden? |
| 16:58:42 | wubbla | DocBrown: exactly :P |
| 16:58:51 | DocBrown | I've read in the IRC logs that somebody has already done that... |
| 16:59:00 | * | preglow points to wubbla |
| 16:59:19 | markun | Benacool: It's all in the wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GaplessHowTo |
| 16:59:20 | wubbla | DocBrown: i was the one who actually made this offer |
| 16:59:36 | wubbla | DocBrown: and i really intended to send it |
| 16:59:39 | Benacool | thanks markun |
| 16:59:44 | DocBrown | Hehe... |
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| 17:00:06 | markun | Benacool: at the bottom: "If you use ExactAudioCopy, it's not possible to encode all tracks together with one invocation of Lame. Therefore, method 2 won't work with EAC." |
| 17:00:08 | preglow | wubbla: you wont do it after all? |
| 17:00:24 | wubbla | DocBrown: but LinusN said that he might have already discovered a bug... |
| 17:00:51 | bobwise | perplexity, that worked fine, thanks |
| 17:00:57 | wubbla | DocBrown: but that was about on 23rd of november... |
| 17:01:20 | perplexity | Glad I could be of service :) |
| 17:01:38 | DocBrown | Well actually i would as well. The problem is that I use the player for porting the latest version of my PhD thesis from home to office and back... |
| 17:02:08 | wubbla | DocBrown: i see... |
| 17:02:15 | DocBrown | So that would mean a complication I don't need at the moment. I'm running out of time anyway |
| 17:02:20 | wubbla | DocBrown: now that is going to be a problem then... |
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| 17:02:24 | leftright | I am under the impression that one doesn't have to include the -no gap switch in LAME for gapless |
| 17:02:29 | preglow | you don't |
| 17:02:38 | perplexity | I'm listening to the ministry of sound here, gapless mp3.. I'm in heaven guys |
| 17:02:39 | preglow | the tags you need should be embedded automatically by lame |
| 17:03:02 | leftright | exactly, the wiki is a bit outdated then |
| 17:03:08 | preglow | no, i don't think so |
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| 17:04:14 | preglow | hmm |
| 17:04:20 | perplexity | Actually, all my mp3's here are encoded by LAME version 3.96 and the all have a *slight* click between tracks.. |
| 17:04:21 | preglow | seems gaplesshowto doesn't mention other methods at all |
| 17:04:35 | Benacool | markun: i think i will "endure" the little gaps... no tags, cue sheets... it was only for testing ;-) |
| 17:04:36 | leftright | thats what I see as well |
| 17:04:42 | preglow | perplexity: like i said a little while ago, i don't think rockbox mp3 gapless is completely watertight yet |
| 17:04:45 | wubbla | LinusN said (on 23. nov.), that he'll contact me if he found something... |
| 17:04:50 | preglow | i'll fix it eventually if no one else does |
| 17:05:12 | wubbla | he suspected the pcf50606 driver to be the one to blame... |
| 17:05:17 | * | leftright rolls out the red carpet for preglow |
| 17:05:23 | perplexity | Well, I have this album I'm listening to right now that a friend did on her windows box using something installed for the ipod and it's completely perfectly gapless.. |
| 17:05:25 | wubbla | sadly, i haven't heard a word from him since then... |
| 17:05:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:05:37 | preglow | i'm the one that fixed the current gapless mp3 code as is, so i know it's not watertight |
| 17:06:06 | leftright | its pretty darn good though |
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| 17:06:31 | Benacool | without special encoding, is it possible to play the mp3s gaplessly ? |
| 17:06:46 | Benacool | with the driver or something like that |
| 17:08:17 | perplexity | Ahh... reading the wiki.. all my tracks are encoded one at a time.. which of course it *specifies* will not do a good gapless encode.. time to rework my scripts I guess |
| 17:09:08 | preglow | Benacool: it's kind of possible, but will never be perfect |
| 17:09:14 | Benacool | ok |
| 17:09:29 | preglow | the lame way is the way to go, as that is as perfect as it gets |
| 17:09:58 | Benacool | so is there some apps in windows to encode at the same time all the sougs of an album with the tags .. so in gapless ? |
| 17:10:00 | perplexity | Of course I guess if I convert to ogg the problem goes away? |
| 17:10:16 | Benacool | ah yea it's also a good idea lol |
| 17:10:35 | markun | yes, but you'll have to rerip the albums |
| 17:10:42 | perplexity | I have all my albums as bin/cue formats on hard disk anyway.. |
| 17:10:51 | perplexity | I listen to them at home uncompressed |
| 17:11:15 | Benacool | songs* |
| 17:12:04 | perplexity | well, actually data/toc format from cdrdao, but it's the same in practice.. |
| 17:12:38 | Benacool | if i want to encode an album in ogg i can use the one of EAC and ihave nothing special to do ? |
| 17:13:30 | markun | Benacool: yes, I think so. My girlfriend uses CDex with no special options |
| 17:14:09 | Benacool | i use normally −−alt-preset standard ... wich Quality # i should use ? |
| 17:15:21 | crwl | i'd guess quality 5 would be roughly of same quality |
| 17:15:30 | crwl | and 6 of roughly the same bitrate |
| 17:15:34 | crwl | YMMV |
| 17:16:20 | markun | Benacool: you could do some test encodings and try if you can spot the difference on your player. |
| 17:18:51 | Benacool | ogg also use id3tags ? |
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| 17:19:14 | markun | no, vorbiscomments |
| 17:19:47 | Benacool | eac will write them i imagine? |
| 17:20:01 | markun | yes |
| 17:20:07 | Benacool | ok ^^ |
| 17:20:52 | Benacool | like mp3s (LAME), is there some better ogg encoders ? |
| 17:22:23 | Benacool | because i have to download one ... and i fon't where lol |
| 17:22:32 | Benacool | don't know* |
| 17:22:48 | markun | Benacool: This is supposed to be better: http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/ |
| 17:22:52 | Benacool | vorbix.com ? |
| 17:23:01 | Benacool | vorbis* |
| 17:23:08 | Benacool | ok |
| 17:24:42 | Benacool | ** now encoding with aoTuV Beta4.51 ** |
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| 17:30:20 | perplexity | Right.. re-encoding the whole lot with oggenc at avg bitrate 256k.. I'll check it in 12 hours and see how it sounds.. |
| 17:30:46 | Benacool | at 256 avg ... it's Q6 ? |
| 17:31:08 | perplexity | I specified the average bitrate rather than the Q |
| 17:31:13 | Benacool | oh |
| 17:31:16 | Benacool | ok ^^ |
| 17:31:19 | markun | I prefer Q |
| 17:31:41 | Benacool | at 256 avg it something like Q6 or Q7 ? |
| 17:31:43 | perplexity | I might play with that later, but given the minor hassles with ogg and the h3x0 at the moment I thought I'd start low |
| 17:32:09 | perplexity | I can re-encode all 111 albums in one hit, so I can just keep playing with it over the next couple of days.. |
| 17:32:33 | markun | perplexity: nice |
| 17:32:42 | Benacool | how much drive space you have lol ?? |
| 17:32:46 | perplexity | 6TB |
| 17:32:50 | Benacool | damn ! |
| 17:33:01 | Benacool | how dd you have xD ? |
| 17:33:05 | Benacool | how much* |
| 17:33:07 | markun | I don't have all the albums I ripped. Most are from friends. |
| 17:33:32 | perplexity | Sorry Benacool ? how much what? |
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| 17:34:44 | perplexity | Ok all, I'm out for dinner.. bbl |
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| 17:36:08 | Benacool | how much hd (hard drive) do you have ? (sorry dd (disque dur) is in french;-)) |
| 17:36:33 | markun | Benacool: "17:32 < perplexity> 6TB" |
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| 17:36:52 | Benacool | not how much space but physical hard drive lol |
| 17:37:40 | markun | howmany? |
| 17:37:51 | Benacool | eh yea ^^' |
| 17:37:58 | markun | Ah :) |
| 17:38:05 | markun | translation error :) |
| 17:38:27 | Benacool | i don't use a translator ... so it's my fault ;-) |
| 17:38:36 | markun | It's bot combien in french? |
| 17:38:41 | markun | both |
| 17:38:45 | Benacool | yea |
| 17:39:55 | Benacool | ... in fact not really ... lol |
| 17:40:22 | Benacool | but i have no exemple that come out of my mind lol |
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| 17:48:57 | Benacool | markun: there is alittle exemple... when you say "How much rice do you want?" (i think this sentence is ok ? lol) the translation in french is "Quelle quantite de riz veux-tu?" |
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| 17:53:27 | markun | Wonder howmany esperanto rockbox users there are out there.. :) |
| 17:53:44 | Philip | ?? |
| 17:54:03 | unkle | hey preyglow, how goes the ipod port? |
| 17:54:10 | markun | I was thinking of making a espeanto language file, but it's pretty useless :) |
| 17:54:34 | unkle | oops, preglow...... |
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| 17:57:31 | San | hey |
| 17:57:37 | Philip | hello |
| 17:57:38 | Philip | :D |
| 17:57:44 | San | Musepack plays on RB, right? |
| 17:57:57 | Philip | ??? no idea i don't have any |
| 17:58:07 | _FireFly_ | San: afaik yes |
| 17:58:17 | San | ty |
| 17:59:41 | unkle | San: do you have a H3xx?? |
| 17:59:53 | San | yes |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:18 | unkle | i wont mind seeing how musepack plays on it |
| 18:00:24 | San | kk |
| 18:00:36 | San | I am ripping DSOTM ATM into musepack |
| 18:01:04 | unkle | cool, i only ask because im getting a h320 tomorrow and most of my music is in mpc |
| 18:01:36 | San | kk |
| 18:01:56 | Philip | San: do you use foobar 2000? |
| 18:02:26 | ghode|afk | -i doubt musepack will play realtime atm on the h3xx |
| 18:08:12 | BBub | San: musepack works perfectly on the h1xx and so it will on the h3xx |
| 18:08:38 | markun | only seeking is disabled |
| 18:08:55 | BBub | true, but that is a problem in the format |
| 18:10:48 | unkle | remember that the h3xx is limited to 90mhz at the moment |
| 18:11:38 | BBub | but theoreticaly it should be able to play mpc :) |
| 18:12:08 | unkle | yes you are right, but how well is another question |
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| 18:12:49 | BBub | if its able to run at 124 mhz like the h1xx it should, even though it has a high boost-ratio |
| 18:12:58 | Kyl3 | What do you do with wps code? I know you paste it in Notepad and make it xxx.wps but what after that? |
| 18:13:13 | BBub | upload it to your player |
| 18:13:20 | Kyl3 | one |
| 18:13:21 | Philip | in wps folder |
| 18:13:23 | Kyl3 | done* |
| 18:13:25 | Kyl3 | yes |
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| 18:13:32 | Philip | then go to settings |
| 18:13:35 | Kyl3 | ok |
| 18:13:40 | Philip | > displey settings |
| 18:13:47 | Philip | *display |
| 18:13:57 | Philip | > browse wps files |
| 18:14:05 | Philip | and select the wps |
| 18:14:06 | Kyl3 | k thanks |
| 18:14:21 | Kyl3 | Whats the difference between .wps and .rwps |
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| 18:14:30 | BBub | rwps is for the remote |
| 18:14:41 | Kyl3 | ahh |
| 18:15:25 | Philip | I have a problem with the rwps, the scroll speed wihich is fine on the main screen is way too fast and is blured on the remote :( |
| 18:15:26 | Kyl3 | When I select the WPS in that screen, it flashes the code for that WPS for a split second, then it brings me back to the display settings menu |
| 18:15:35 | San | muse pack works fine |
| 18:15:36 | San | :D |
| 18:15:38 | Philip | yes it has loaded it |
| 18:15:44 | Kyl3 | oh |
| 18:15:53 | Philip | go to now playing screen |
| 18:15:56 | Benacool | is there some wps for the h300 at this time ? |
| 18:16:10 | _FireFly_ | Philip: there is a patch which adds additional remote-settings on patch-tracker |
| 18:16:13 | Philip | i have made a *very* basi one for myself |
| 18:16:18 | Kyl3 | Wow! this ones good! |
| 18:16:22 | Kyl3 | I wanna make one |
| 18:16:39 | Kyl3 | But I dunno how, anyone have some docs? |
| 18:16:46 | Philip | where can i get that patch?? and would it be compatible with H300?? |
| 18:16:55 | _FireFly_ | Philip: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1362248&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 18:17:04 | Philip | thanks |
| 18:17:26 | Benacool | the h100 ones flashing (the bmps ?) so it's not very usable |
| 18:17:30 | San | FF doesn't work on MPC |
| 18:17:59 | BBub | Benacool: on the remote? |
| 18:18:25 | Benacool | no on the main unit |
| 18:18:50 | Benacool | (the wps) |
| 18:19:35 | Benacool | if i select some of the wps that come with rockbox |
| 18:19:41 | BBub | hmm, i only noticed that on the remote |
| 18:19:44 | Benacool | one of* |
| 18:19:46 | Philip | how do i install that patch?? |
| 18:19:49 | BBub | since the ticking fix |
| 18:20:17 | Benacool | iAmp for exemple flashing |
| 18:20:59 | Benacool | zezayer too ... |
| 18:21:17 | Philip | yes i had that problem with most of them... |
| 18:26:59 | Benacool | it's a problem with all wps with bmps on te h300 ? |
| 18:27:14 | Philip | i think so... |
| 18:27:47 | _FireFly_ | Philip: do you can compile rockbox yourself ?? |
| 18:27:55 | Philip | no... |
| 18:28:22 | Philip | don't i need to run lnux to do that?? |
| 18:28:31 | Philip | *Linux |
| 18:28:39 | _FireFly_ | no you can use cygwin or the devkit |
| 18:28:44 | unkle | San: what settings did you use for mpc and what there any skipping?? |
| 18:28:44 | _FireFly_ | for windows |
| 18:28:51 | Philip | oh |
| 18:28:58 | unkle | was* |
| 18:29:00 | Philip | how difficult is it |
| 18:29:06 | San | no skipping |
| 18:29:13 | San | and I used highest quality |
| 18:29:18 | San | but no fast foward |
| 18:29:35 | unkle | sweet, thats a relief |
| 18:30:14 | unkle | well i guess its a h300 for me tomorrow :) |
| 18:31:16 | San | nice |
| 18:31:18 | San | :D |
| 18:31:25 | Philip | perfect timing |
| 18:31:27 | Benacool | "It's pronouced Ogg" in the last build ... what it means ?? |
| 18:31:43 | San | well, no |
| 18:31:43 | markun | my commit |
| 18:31:46 | San | it is ogg |
| 18:31:49 | San | not Ogg |
| 18:31:51 | San | :P |
| 18:31:53 | San | and not OGG |
| 18:31:59 | Benacool | lol |
| 18:32:02 | San | sorry, just is |
| 18:32:16 | Kyl3 | Is there any documentation on how to make your own WPS? |
| 18:32:20 | San | yes |
| 18:32:24 | markun | San: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/xiph/websites/xiph.org/xiphname.shtml.en |
| 18:32:29 | San | in the documentation folder |
| 18:32:50 | markun | I only see Ogg, no ogg.. |
| 18:32:52 | Kyl3 | and wheres that *slow* |
| 18:33:00 | _FireFly_ | Philip: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 18:33:04 | San | in the .rockbox folder |
| 18:33:11 | Kyl3 | ahh found it |
| 18:33:14 | _FireFly_ | Kyl3: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 18:33:35 | markun | San? |
| 18:33:55 | San | yes? |
| 18:34:13 | markun | http://www.xiph.org/xiphname.shtml |
| 18:34:23 | Philip | FireFly: thank you |
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| 18:47:29 | lostlogic | is anyone around who would be able to help me troubleshoot my build environment? It seems like my m68k-elf toolchain is building broken binaries. |
| 18:48:31 | wubbla | Anyone here who experienced the same? −−> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883 |
| 18:48:52 | Kyl3 | Yes |
| 18:49:00 | Kyl3 | thats the "dead syndrome |
| 18:49:01 | Kyl3 | " |
| 18:49:22 | Kyl3 | happens to me occasionally |
| 18:49:23 | San | i think it is fixable, right? |
| 18:49:27 | wubbla | Kyl3: you've got an affected player too? |
| 18:49:35 | Kyl3 | yes. |
| 18:49:50 | Kyl3 | What, is that a hardware problem? |
| 18:50:03 | wubbla | Kyl3: i've no idea |
| 18:50:20 | wubbla | Kyl3: did you manage to somehow boot rockbox? |
| 18:50:30 | San | is there a good c compiler for windows avable? |
| 18:51:22 | Kyl3 | Yeah all I do is reset it (which is easy for me all I gotta do is push the side of the player) then I plug in the USB plug, then it boots into iRiver firmware |
| 18:51:54 | Kyl3 | And if I DONT have the USB plug near me, I just reset and wait about 10 minutes. |
| 18:52:00 | wubbla | Kyl3: yeah, i'm aware of this "trick" to boot the iriver fw... |
| 18:52:13 | wubbla | Kyl3: but i wanted to know if you were able to boot the rockbox fw |
| 18:52:18 | Kyl3 | Yes. |
| 18:52:37 | wubbla | Kyl3: and how? :D |
| 18:52:45 | Kyl3 | If I wait it out, and dont use that "trick" it boots right into Rockbox |
| 18:53:06 | wubbla | Kyl3: doesn't your LCD remain black? |
| 18:53:40 | _FireFly_ | San: what do you want do to with the c-compiler ?? |
| 18:53:41 | Kyl3 | It might, then I reset it again, until it works, but usually it works after you wait |
| 18:54:05 | wubbla | Kyl3: define the term "wait" :-) |
| 18:54:13 | wubbla | Kyl3: seconds? minutes? |
| 18:54:19 | _FireFly_ | years ;) |
| 18:54:28 | Kyl3 | anywhere from 2 to 10 |
| 18:54:31 | Kyl3 | never timed |
| 18:54:37 | wubbla | Kyl3: seconds? |
| 18:54:41 | wubbla | :-) |
| 18:54:43 | Kyl3 | next time it happens i will |
| 18:54:48 | Kyl3 | minutes sorry |
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| 18:54:58 | wubbla | Kyl3: huh? |
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| 18:55:10 | wubbla | Kyl3: you waited 2-10 minutes to boot rockbox? |
| 18:55:13 | lamed | heya all |
| 18:55:32 | wubbla | Kyl3: and during this time (2-10 minutes) the LCD remains black? right? |
| 18:55:38 | Kyl3 | LOL no I waited 2 to 10 minutes after I reset |
| 18:55:48 | Kyl3 | then I boot rockbox |
| 18:55:51 | Kyl3 | normally |
| 18:56:02 | Kyl3 | But like I said I never timed. |
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| 18:56:27 | Kyl3 | So it sounds like a bootloader issue. Is Linus in here? |
| 18:56:53 | wubbla | Kyl3: so the conclusion would be, that it *is* possible to boot such affected units occasionally? |
| 18:57:07 | Kyl3 | Yes. |
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| 18:57:29 | wubbla | Kyl3: but under "normal" conditions the LCD just remains black and you can just reset the unit... |
| 18:57:45 | Kyl3 | then wait |
| 18:57:49 | tucoz | markun, I read that you have made a change to scrolling of long strings. That is a really nice idea. I played "Rachmaninoff - Piano Concert No 3 in D Minor Op.30" yesterday, and that was scrolling mayhem :) |
| 18:57:53 | wubbla | hmm... |
| 18:57:53 | Kyl3 | Hah it happened now. |
| 18:58:00 | Kyl3 | Lemmie get a watch |
| 18:58:05 | wubbla | Kyl3: thanks! i'll try that... |
| 18:58:32 | Kyl3 | Okay |
| 18:58:39 | Kyl3 | I reset |
| 18:58:46 | wubbla | Kyl3: we should contact LinusN and track this bug down... |
| 18:58:53 | Philip | does the rockbox ID3 tag database work for anyone?? |
| 18:59:27 | Kyl3 | I reset and after the HD spun down all the way (put it up to your ear), then I pressed ON it booted immedietly |
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| 19:01:33 | Kyl3 | Resetting for me is easy, because for some reason all I have to do is push the side of my H300 (probably from resetting it too much so dont try it), but you might have to carry a paperclip |
| 19:01:39 | wubbla | Kyl3: do you have your rockbox.iriver in / or in /.rockbox ? |
| 19:02:06 | Kyl3 | the rockbox.iriver file is in / |
| 19:02:18 | Kyl3 | as is the .rockbox dir |
| 19:02:23 | wubbla | ok |
| 19:03:26 | * | wubbla is flashing right now... |
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| 19:04:29 | Kyl3 | Bootloader version 2 right, wubbla? |
| 19:04:35 | wubbla | Kyl3: right |
| 19:04:47 | Kyl3 | and the latest bleeding edge build |
| 19:04:52 | wubbla | or course |
| 19:05:14 | wubbla | ok, i tried to boot and the LCD remained black (as usual) |
| 19:05:16 | San | C DOS |
| 19:05:21 | San | C dos run |
| 19:05:25 | San | run dos dun! |
| 19:05:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:05:29 | San | *run |
| 19:05:31 | San | :P |
| 19:05:34 | Kyl3 | lol |
| 19:05:35 | Philip | :) |
| 19:05:41 | wubbla | ok, resetted my unit |
| 19:05:52 | Philip | isn't that from the simpsons??? |
| 19:05:58 | San | yes |
| 19:06:01 | San | :P |
| 19:06:03 | Kyl3 | Now wait till the HD COMPLETELY stops spinning |
| 19:06:20 | _FireFly_ | San: you want to program porgrams which ran in the command-line |
| 19:06:28 | _FireFly_ | ß |
| 19:06:29 | _FireFly_ | ? |
| 19:06:48 | San | it is a joke |
| 19:06:51 | San | :P |
| 19:06:57 | Kyl3 | Then boot rockbox. |
| 19:07:07 | Kyl3 | @wubbla |
| 19:07:12 | wubbla | Kyl3: ok, have been waiting for roughly a minute now... |
| 19:07:22 | wubbla | Kyl3: time to try again, right? |
| 19:07:32 | Kyl3 | Wait it didnt boot? |
| 19:07:48 | wubbla | no |
| 19:07:55 | Kyl3 | yes try again |
| 19:07:57 | wubbla | didn't boot again... |
| 19:08:30 | Kyl3 | hmmmmm |
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| 19:08:54 | Kyl3 | Weird, thats how I do it... wheres Linus? |
| 19:09:07 | wubbla | good question :-) |
| 19:09:35 | Kyl3 | Haha! it happened again |
| 19:09:42 | Kyl3 | Wait let me try now |
| 19:09:50 | wubbla | Kyl3: it happened, that is booted? |
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| 19:10:01 | wubbla | Kyl3: or that it didn't boot? |
| 19:10:30 | Kyl3 | It happenend that the LCD was blank now I'm retting it |
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| 19:10:43 | Kyl3 | the HD spun down and... |
| 19:10:55 | Kyl3 | Nope, no boot |
| 19:10:59 | Kyl3 | ... Odd |
| 19:11:08 | Philip | ahhh the gapless playback doesn't give me enough time at the end of a song to turn the player of so i can plug it into USB ;p |
| 19:11:21 | Benacool | plus your paler with the usb or with the adapter and do the same thing |
| 19:11:26 | Benacool | plug* |
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| 19:11:30 | Kyl3 | Try booting it while the HD is still spinning |
| 19:11:37 | Kyl3 | I did that just now and it worked |
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| 19:11:38 | Benacool | player* |
| 19:11:59 | * | drumr|away loves rockbox |
| 19:12:09 | tucoz | guys, read the logs from around 03.50 this mornig |
| 19:12:12 | | Nick drumr|away is now known as drumrboy320 (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c20ff1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:12:27 | drumrboy320 | am in in there? |
| 19:12:33 | tucoz | Drummerboy had a similiar experience, which LinusN help him with |
| 19:12:35 | wubbla | Kyl3: hmm... i think it's absolutely impossible to boot my unit... :'-( |
| 19:12:41 | drumrboy320 | ok |
| 19:12:47 | drumrboy320 | hold on and hit reset twice |
| 19:12:52 | drumrboy320 | while holding on |
| 19:12:55 | drumrboy320 | it should boot |
| 19:13:01 | drumrboy320 | if its the same prob as mine |
| 19:13:20 | wubbla | drumrboy320: you're talking to me? :-) |
| 19:14:03 | wubbla | drumrboy320: if yes, this thread exactly describes my situation: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883 |
| 19:14:30 | drumrboy320 | im talkin to anyone who mighta had my problem :) |
| 19:15:14 | tucoz | 03.55.09 # <LinusN> hold ON and double click reset |
| 19:15:15 | drumrboy320 | and my HDD wasnt doing anything |
| 19:15:24 | drumrboy320 | my HDD was dead also |
| 19:15:39 | Kyl3 | I can wait it out, for some reason, when that happens to me, I reset it, then wait anywhere from immedetly after to 2 minutes after I reset and it works. |
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| 19:16:48 | wubbla | drumrboy320: so you booted the rockbox firmware? |
| 19:17:14 | drumrboy320 | yes |
| 19:17:26 | drumrboy320 | first shot after the play-reset-reset |
| 19:17:38 | drumrboy320 | and i have audio thanks to latest bleeding edge |
| 19:17:45 | drumrboy320 | :) |
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| 19:17:56 | wubbla | after play and 2x reset the unit should be off, right? |
| 19:18:07 | drumrboy320 | nope, it went right to rockbox |
| 19:18:15 | drumrboy320 | it turned on |
| 19:18:28 | drumrboy320 | it like de-fribulated it |
| 19:18:54 | webguest80 | someone help me out with the unicode patch? |
| 19:18:59 | wubbla | i don't get it :-( |
| 19:19:03 | webguest80 | latest one i got from markun doesnt really work |
| 19:19:49 | wubbla | drumrboy320: i'm holding on until the HDD spins, after that i pushed reset twice (while holding ON) |
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| 19:20:59 | drumrboy320 | no beans? |
| 19:21:14 | drumrboy320 | see, my harddrive didnt spin |
| 19:21:17 | tucoz | wubbla, what happens if you press reset earlier? |
| 19:21:30 | drumrboy320 | try hitting on and hitting reset twice almost simultaniously |
| 19:21:46 | drumrboy320 | holding on* |
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| 19:27:33 | massiveH | Question: has the h3xx bootloader v2 been uploaded to the site, when i downloaded 'v2' it still says version 1 when booting |
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| 19:28:59 | lostlogic | massiveH: you reflashed the player? |
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| 19:29:10 | massiveH | twice |
| 19:29:30 | lostlogic | massiveH: I downloaded, repatched my firmware, copied to the player, reflashed, and mine definitely says 2 |
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| 19:29:55 | massiveH | from this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 19:30:10 | tucoz | massiveH, if it says v1 then it is v1 |
| 19:30:13 | lostlogic | yees |
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| 19:30:29 | lostlogic | massiveH: did you check your resulting firmware's md5 with those on the site |
| 19:30:30 | lostlogic | ? |
| 19:30:46 | massiveH | no, let me do that... |
| 19:30:50 | tucoz | Have you copied the correct file .hex to the unit before flashing |
| 19:31:03 | Moos | massiveH: did you reflashed (firmware upgrade) like said? |
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| 19:31:17 | Moos | Salut wett |
| 19:31:49 | Wett | hi |
| 19:31:57 | San | hey |
| 19:32:19 | Moos | wett: how goes your video plugin? :) |
| 19:32:50 | Wett | quite bad. I just can't manage to sync A/V correctly |
| 19:33:02 | Wett | it's getting on my nerves |
| 19:33:07 | Moos | :( |
| 19:33:36 | drumrboy320 | is it stable? |
| 19:33:49 | Moos | any news from [IDC] Dragon? |
| 19:34:03 | drumrboy320 | cause you should release it anyway, i'd like to see some kind of video on my player :0 |
| 19:34:06 | drumrboy320 | :)* |
| 19:34:16 | Wett | nope, but I only send him an email a few days ago, let's wait |
| 19:34:19 | massiveH | lastlogic: my checksum is completly off |
| 19:34:35 | Wett | drumrboy320: it's on h1x0 only |
| 19:34:41 | Moos | wett: bonne chance ;) |
| 19:34:48 | Wett | thx :) |
| 19:35:03 | drumrboy320 | really?, thats a start though, vause myst h1xx stuff will work on h3xx eventually ;) |
| 19:35:11 | drumrboy320 | cause* |
| 19:35:15 | drumrboy320 | most* |
| 19:35:27 | Wett | here it won't, grayscale mode is too different |
| 19:35:36 | drumrboy320 | ahh, i see. oh well |
| 19:35:41 | tucoz | massiveH, can you run the fwpatcher.exe tool? |
| 19:36:00 | Wett | drumrboy320: sorry ;) |
| 19:36:30 | drumrboy320 | no problem... the h1xx people should have video too, cause all h3xx ppl can just goto stock f/w |
| 19:36:32 | drumrboy320 | :) |
| 19:36:56 | massiveH | wait a tic, i was just downloading the v2 bin file, not the newer patcher, oops |
| 19:37:11 | Moos | drumboy320: just wait one dev begin to work on it ;) |
| 19:37:36 | Wett | I think it's not a high priority thing |
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| 19:37:41 | Moos | yes |
| 19:37:53 | drumrboy320 | yea, prob wouldnt be since video is available on stock f/w |
| 19:38:01 | Moos | plus not many H300 dev yet |
| 19:38:06 | drumrboy320 | yea |
| 19:38:11 | drumrboy320 | i wish i know C |
| 19:38:15 | drumrboy320 | grrrr :0 |
| 19:39:04 | Wett | u can learn... but don't expect working on ur player before... a few months ? |
| 19:39:16 | drumrboy320 | yea |
| 19:39:25 | drumrboy320 | is C anything like basic? |
| 19:39:39 | drumrboy320 | cause i know some basic ;) |
| 19:39:40 | BBub | not really |
| 19:39:47 | Wett | kinda... But first you'll get shocked ^^ |
| 19:39:52 | massiveH | basic is pretty different |
| 19:39:58 | drumrboy320 | i figured |
| 19:40:16 | drumrboy320 | in order to take tha java class at my school, you gotta take java first |
| 19:40:27 | drumrboy320 | you have to take **besic** first |
| 19:40:31 | drumrboy320 | basic* |
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| 19:41:19 | wubbla | drumrboy320: sorry for not answering... |
| 19:41:34 | wubbla | drumrboy320: i was afk... |
| 19:41:42 | ^BeN^ | someone have wps for all h300 screen and not for half screen? |
| 19:41:49 | Wett | Moos: pm |
| 19:42:23 | drumrboy320 | wubbla |
| 19:42:24 | drumrboy320 | np |
| 19:42:51 | Moos | wett: are you registrated?, I don't have your msg |
| 19:43:06 | Wett | oh, i'm not <_< |
| 19:43:10 | Moos | :) |
| 19:43:35 | Wett | gotta do this |
| 19:43:54 | Moos | it's quicly |
| 19:44:07 | wubbla | drumrboy320: hum :'-( |
| 19:44:15 | wubbla | drumrboy320: this trick doesn't work |
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| 19:44:54 | wubbla | hey DocBrown! |
| 19:45:08 | DocBrown | Hi wubbla |
| 19:45:18 | San | hey |
| 19:45:22 | DocBrown | Have been reading your Discussion |
| 19:45:23 | San | you know when making a WPS |
| 19:45:36 | wubbla | DocBrown: have you tried it too? |
| 19:45:48 | San | is %xl|S|vol2.bmp|139|18| which is the X axis and Y axis for the numbers? |
| 19:45:57 | San | *not numbers, position of the image |
| 19:46:16 | DocBrown | was able to boot rockbox after an arbitrary combination of play, reset and keyholding |
| 19:46:19 | San | 139 is the X and 18 is the Y, right? |
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| 19:46:30 | DocBrown | wubbla: but now its gone |
| 19:46:42 | wubbla | DocBrown: it solved the problem permanently? |
| 19:46:47 | DocBrown | maybe because i bootet into iriver fw once |
| 19:46:51 | San | that is the H100's screen reselution? |
| 19:46:52 | drumrboy320 | just keep hitting record, reset, on, keep yring differebt combos |
| 19:47:06 | DocBrown | wubbla: no, not permanently |
| 19:47:14 | San | what is its screen width? (the H100) |
| 19:48:00 | wubbla | DocBrown: i see... |
| 19:48:59 | San | anyone? |
| 19:49:05 | DocBrown | wubbla: just got a glimpse... cannot reproduce it atm |
| 19:49:57 | _FireFly_ | San: 160x128 |
| 19:50:12 | San | Thanks |
| 19:50:14 | San | :D |
| 19:50:28 | wubbla | DocBrown: i just wondered if you've already dismantled your unit to see if it has got other hardware components than mentioned in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents |
| 19:50:32 | wubbla | ... |
| 19:51:01 | DocBrown | wubbla: nope |
| 19:54:07 | wubbla | DocBrown: but given that fact that you've already been able to boot chance of different hardware components should be relatively small, right? |
| 19:56:43 | BBub | afaik only the "ADC With Serial Control" is still unknow - thats why there is no sound on the h3xx ;) |
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| 19:57:04 | BBub | ehm, forget the last part of my sentence |
| 19:57:17 | wubbla | BBub: i thought there is already is sound?! |
| 19:57:25 | wubbla | BBub: ok ;-) |
| 19:57:28 | BBub | yes ;) |
| 19:57:47 | * | lostlogic happily listens to something coming out of his H340 ;) |
| 19:58:43 | San | can I use color bitmaps in H300 wps's yet/ |
| 19:58:44 | San | ? |
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| 20:01:46 | ^BeN^ | San you can try... |
| 20:01:58 | DocBrown | wubbla: Don't know. I have the impression that it is a timing issue. Just as an info: It played sound when I managed to boot it |
| 20:02:55 | San | i will try then |
| 20:03:00 | San | probally not though |
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| 20:06:09 | Kyl3 | Now thet Rockbox has playback, they can work on speeding up RockBoy and dare I say video? |
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| 20:07:41 | ghode|afk | if you find someone to do it, then sure :P |
| 20:08:42 | Kyl3 | tanks lol |
| 20:08:46 | Kyl3 | thanks* |
| 20:09:26 | markun | I would like to work on video when/if rockbox is ported to the gigabeat player |
| 20:11:02 | Rick | hmm |
| 20:11:11 | Rick | is the h3x0's LCD large enough for the gameboy screen? |
| 20:11:14 | San | no color bitmaps :( |
| 20:11:25 | San | they show up transparent |
| 20:11:31 | San | and rick, yes |
| 20:11:40 | Rick | I need to get one then |
| 20:11:41 | Rick | :D |
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| 20:15:20 | Benacool | is it possible to have to different fonts for the remote and the player ? |
| 20:15:25 | Benacool | two* |
| 20:16:50 | Rick | probably not but it's a good idea if it isn't |
| 20:17:50 | Benacool | yea |
| 20:18:39 | lostlogic | man, I gotta get my stupid crosss-toolchain working right so I can play in the code. |
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| 20:37:06 | Benacool | is a bigger snap font exist ? |
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| 20:39:31 | lostlogic | high bitrate ogg/vorbis seems to skip on the h3x0 |
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| 20:40:51 | Benacool | is there some info on how to make a font for rockbox somewhere ? |
| 20:41:27 | Benacool | or it's too complicated ? lol |
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| 20:46:52 | preglow | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1960.0 <- can someone tell me what i am being credited for here? |
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| 20:53:51 | linuxstb_ | preglow: No. |
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| 21:02:31 | San | hey |
| 21:03:49 | San | you know when making wps's for the H100, is the bar at the top of the screen with the repeat, battery, etc always there or do you have to tell it to be there? cause I am making a WPS for the H300 and i dont get the bar at the top |
| 21:03:50 | San | :| |
| 21:05:07 | linuxstb_ | That's the status bar - you can disable it in the main settings, or specifically enable/disable it in your WPS using the %we and %wd (I think) tags. |
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| 21:05:30 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:06:09 | San | where do I put the %we and %wd tags? |
| 21:06:20 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb_: yepp %we enables and %wd disables the statusbar in wps regardless of the global-setting |
| 21:06:41 | San | ah |
| 21:06:42 | San | ty |
| 21:06:50 | _FireFly_ | San: currently everywhere you want except on lines where %x or %xl are used |
| 21:06:57 | perplexity | preglow: I suspect you are being credited for enabling recording in the h1xx series ? |
| 21:07:30 | perplexity | Benacool: In answer to your earlier question about storage.. 28 250GB Drives |
| 21:07:41 | San | ty firefly |
| 21:08:14 | _FireFly_ | if the new wps-file-loader gets commited the these two tags must be on a new line |
| 21:08:29 | _FireFly_ | s/the these/then these |
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| 21:09:48 | San | aaah, nice, it works |
| 21:09:49 | San | TY |
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| 21:27:59 | Bger | hi again |
| 21:28:59 | drumRBoy320 | hey |
| 21:36:49 | Bger | hm, let me tell the things i noticed after the first day of full RB usage |
| 21:37:48 | Bger | 1) there is some kind of bug with handling the remote (at least) StatusBar in WPS |
| 21:38:39 | Bger | my statusbar is on and after boot the default wps is ok (it starts at the line after the statusbar) |
| 21:39:27 | Bger | but after changing to other wps and then selecting default again ... the first line of the wps is on the same line as statusbar ... |
| 21:39:46 | Bger | (noticable when the first line (artist) is long and scrolls) |
| 21:41:33 | Bger | 2) scrolling lags (when scrolling much), from time to time even the audio stops (mp3) |
| 21:41:58 | chopped_pork | i've had 1) too |
| 21:42:00 | Bger | i guess the problem is in the main LCD updates |
| 21:42:07 | Bger | (slow) |
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| 21:45:38 | Bger | hm, question to all devs ... will the remote type on h300 be detected runtime or selected compiletime ? i'm for the first choice, because there are 3 possible remotes 1) H100's one; 2) H300's NON-lcd; and 3) H300 LCD |
| 21:46:31 | webguest37 | quick question, what's the capacity of the standard H300 battery? |
| 21:46:58 | Bger | i'm not sure, but i remember something like 1300mAh |
| 21:47:29 | Bger | regarding remotes on h300: also see my last comment on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents#Recognizing_which_remote_is_plug |
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| 21:50:56 | ModernExecutive | hi |
| 21:51:48 | Bger | hi |
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| 21:56:38 | Nixsos | bah, i've been trying to install rockbox for the whole day, but it just won't boot RB |
| 21:56:40 | Nixsos | :( |
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| 21:57:07 | Nixsos | i'm eager to try it out |
| 21:58:20 | wubbla | Nixsos: rockbox doesn't boot on your h300? |
| 21:58:26 | markun | Nixsos: Do you get an error or something? |
| 21:58:44 | wubbla | Nixsos: disk spins but display remains black? |
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| 22:00:06 | preglow | perplexity: that's not exactly what the message says, heh, that's why i'm wondering |
| 22:00:18 | drumRBoy320 | nixos: do you have it pluged into anything? |
| 22:01:16 | Nixsos | yeah the disk spins, display remains black |
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| 22:01:25 | Nixsos | no in unplugged the power supply |
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| 22:01:53 | Nixsos | its trange.. bootloader V1 worked |
| 22:02:06 | Nixsos | i had it running before |
| 22:02:12 | drumRBoy320 | try holding on, and hitting reset twice while holding on |
| 22:02:15 | Nixsos | V2 just doesnt work |
| 22:02:55 | Nixsos | drumRBoy320: i've never heard about that method... |
| 22:03:36 | wubbla | Nixsos: if this doesn't work: welcome in the club :-D |
| 22:03:46 | Nixsos | :D |
| 22:04:04 | Nixsos | btw, i've got a european H340.. not that it should matter i guess.. |
| 22:04:34 | drumRBoy320 | euro = int. right? |
| 22:04:48 | drumRBoy320 | you have native USBOTG |
| 22:04:50 | Nixsos | erm i guess... |
| 22:04:56 | Nixsos | USB OTG |
| 22:05:09 | wubbla | exactly |
| 22:05:22 | Nixsos | yeah native USBOTG |
| 22:06:16 | Nixsos | well i'm going to try your 'reset pushing method' |
| 22:07:03 | drumRBoy320 | well, i had a similar problem, so it might work |
| 22:07:16 | drumRBoy320 | that trick is straight from linus himself |
| 22:07:45 | Nixsos | :D |
| 22:08:09 | Nixsos | so do you always have to use that trick to boot linux? |
| 22:08:12 | Nixsos | omg |
| 22:08:16 | Nixsos | rockbox :D |
| 22:08:32 | Nixsos | or do you have to do it just once? |
| 22:09:11 | Nixsos | btw, should i unplug the power supply? |
| 22:09:16 | drumRBoy320 | yes, i would |
| 22:09:29 | drumRBoy320 | just hold on and as soon as possible tep the reset twice |
| 22:09:35 | drumRBoy320 | mine just popped on |
| 22:09:47 | drumRBoy320 | tap* |
| 22:10:23 | drumRBoy320 | ... i just did it once, now it works everytime |
| 22:11:19 | ModernExecutive | may i ask a dumb question? |
| 22:11:54 | ModernExecutive | has anyone tried using cvs to patch the h300 rockbox bootloader onto a us version of the firmware? |
| 22:13:05 | Nixsos | argh :S i hold down play, then wait till i hear the disk spin and then i pressed 2 reset twice fast while still pressing the on button. it just shuts off |
| 22:13:06 | Bger | cvs?? |
| 22:14:23 | drumRBoy320 | i didnt wait till HD was on, cause afaik my hdd didnt spin up |
| 22:14:41 | drumRBoy320 | just do it asap, even b4 hdd spins up |
| 22:14:50 | ModernExecutive | cvs is an open source version control... the one referred to on the rockbox bootloader page |
| 22:15:41 | Nixsos | it wont work :( it just boots iriver FW. i'm going mental right here |
| 22:16:06 | drumRBoy320 | make sure you have the rockbox files in there and maybe try replacing them |
| 22:16:16 | drumRBoy320 | maybe they went corrupt? |
| 22:16:28 | Nixsos | i did 4 times today already :) |
| 22:16:45 | Nixsos | used the daily build and bleeding edge |
| 22:16:49 | Nixsos | both won't work |
| 22:17:29 | Nixsos | btw, battery is fully charged |
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| 22:19:34 | Nixsos | oh well, guess i'll have to be patient until the next bootloader comes out... :( |
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| 22:21:22 | Mxm`Pas`Bien | go back to v1 ? |
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| 22:25:00 | Nixsos | that's an option... |
| 22:25:46 | Nixsos | but i understand more people have the same problem. so it's just a matter of time before it'll get fixed |
| 22:28:09 | ModernExecutive | i guess that's a no on getting the bootloader on a us version of the firmware? |
| 22:28:25 | Bger | preglow: btw, when i changed the bass and it "overflowed" from 22dB to 0, there was *horrible* scretch |
| 22:29:58 | Musicmad | would it be possible to get a reduction on the bass too btw? like -22 too |
| 22:30:35 | Bger | Musicmad: no |
| 22:30:38 | Bger | not atm |
| 22:30:45 | Bger | because this is hardware limited |
| 22:31:02 | Bger | (this Bass & Treble settings are for the UDA1380) |
| 22:31:33 | Musicmad | really? - it's hardware? |
| 22:31:37 | Bger | but preglow started writing a full parametric EQ |
| 22:31:50 | Musicmad | yeah I saw that - would be great. |
| 22:31:53 | Bger | yes, it is |
| 22:32:04 | Musicmad | preglow: any plans of adding high/low shelves too? |
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| 22:32:41 | Bger | he obviously is not "here" now |
| 22:33:28 | Musicmad | sorry - failed to see how that was obvious.. |
| 22:33:54 | Bger | preglow has been idle 33mins 40secs, signed on Tue Oct 18 18:29:15 |
| 22:34:03 | Bger | heh i'm just noticing the fact |
| 22:34:11 | hellsaviour | hey guys, I have a question about installing rockbox on the H300, but im on a mac, and ive read through the Wiki, but cant for the life of me figre out how to mix the bootloader and iriver firmware, can anyone help me? |
| 22:36:53 | Bger | hm... |
| 22:37:19 | Bger | hellsaviour i don't know whether you can do it on macOS |
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| 22:37:42 | mirak | Wett: salut |
| 22:37:43 | Bger | but i can send you a patched fw ... |
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| 22:37:52 | mirak | wett c'est quoi cette histoire de video ? :) |
| 22:37:52 | Musicmad | hellsaviour: I can probably do one for you. Is there a fwpatcher done? |
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| 22:38:13 | Bger | Musicmad : yes, there is, on the IriverBoot page |
| 22:38:16 | Bger | hi, amiconn:) |
| 22:38:35 | hellsaviour | that would be really cool if someone could send me a patched firmware, on 1.28 korean |
| 22:38:53 | Musicmad | hellsaviour: If I were you I'd prefer Bger sending you one - he's got more credibility here :) |
| 22:39:09 | Bger | heh |
| 22:39:10 | hellsaviour | that would be brilliant! |
| 22:39:23 | hellsaviour | would you mind doing that? |
| 22:39:25 | Bger | Musicmad: if you get the md5sum, it's ok |
| 22:39:31 | Bger | hellsaviour i'm trying :) |
| 22:39:35 | Musicmad | on the other hand he also has the skills of coding a virus :) |
| 22:39:39 | Bger | hahaha |
| 22:40:00 | Bger | Musicmad: u overestimate me :) |
| 22:40:29 | Bger | hellsaviour w8 sec |
| 22:40:31 | Musicmad | If so i apologise. |
| 22:40:40 | hellsaviour | sure |
| 22:40:43 | hellsaviour | no hurry |
| 22:41:13 | Bger | hm |
| 22:41:33 | Bger | hellsaviour : mail ? |
| 22:41:40 | Bger | but don't write it here plain |
| 22:42:06 | hellsaviour | hellsaviouratgmail |
| 22:42:14 | Bger | k, w8 a momnet |
| 22:42:16 | Bger | moment |
| 22:42:20 | hellsaviour | thanks a lot! |
| 22:42:21 | amiconn | Gah. |
| 22:42:36 | amiconn | This: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1956.msg13164#msg13164 is really strange |
| 22:44:09 | amiconn | Form looking at it I'd say either iriver forgot to put some pullup/pulldown resistor in a number of units, or it's there but has to be activated somehow |
| 22:45:07 | Musicmad | from looking at it I have no idea what you mean :) |
| 22:45:32 | hellsaviour | thanks a lot Bger! |
| 22:45:32 | Bger | hellsaviour: see your mail |
| 22:45:40 | hellsaviour | just got it |
| 22:45:42 | Bger | hehe :) |
| 22:45:48 | Bger | check it again |
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| 22:46:24 | Bger | not the mail ... |
| 22:46:52 | Bger | amiconn: any ideas regarding remotes on h300 ? |
| 22:48:05 | hellsaviour | seems fine to me, thanks |
| 22:49:38 | Bger | hellsaviour np |
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| 22:51:00 | mirak | hey |
| 22:51:03 | lostlogic | anyone want to help me troubleshoot my cross compiler? |
| 22:51:10 | mirak | how is it going for the H300 ? |
| 22:51:20 | Bger | lostlogic: dont ask for help, ask directly |
| 22:51:43 | Bger | hm, strange |
| 22:52:12 | mirak | now that there is a bootloader for H300 |
| 22:52:23 | mirak | how much work must be done to adapt to H300 ? |
| 22:52:27 | lostlogic | acceptable, I've got what I think is a working cross compiling gcc and binutils for m68k-elf, and the builds I make with it work in the simulator, but when I install them on my player I get I40:PDIR1FULL |
| 22:52:29 | Bger | i just put the charging cable in my h300 and iriver firmware started ... but not in his "charge screen", it loaded fully |
| 22:52:34 | drumRBoy320 | i have a problem. |
| 22:52:48 | drumRBoy320 | my player wont boot into iriver firmware |
| 22:52:54 | Bger | logbot |
| 22:52:56 | drumRBoy320 | with the record/play thing |
| 22:52:57 | Bger | lostlogic |
| 22:53:10 | lostlogic | drumRBoy320: hold record, press and hold play |
| 22:53:17 | drumRBoy320 | it will boot with the USB cable plugged in tough |
| 22:53:20 | Bger | hm... strange |
| 22:53:29 | drumRBoy320 | like, when i plug in USB when its off, it boots |
| 22:53:41 | lostlogic | drumRBoy320: yeah, known behaviour. |
| 22:53:41 | Bger | this is also strange ... mine doesn't |
| 22:53:50 | drumRBoy320 | ohhhhh |
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| 22:54:09 | drumRBoy320 | my battery is too low for it to go into iriver firmwarem but it'l do rockbox |
| 22:54:10 | drumRBoy320 | i see |
| 22:55:09 | drumRBoy320 | rockbox accepts lower votages iirc? |
| 22:55:17 | lostlogic | drumRBoy320: yes |
| 22:55:24 | drumRBoy320 | ok, so that would explain it |
| 22:55:31 | lostlogic | Bger: your which doesn't what? |
| 22:55:56 | amiconn | w00t! |
| 22:56:07 | amiconn | The selfextractor works :-)) |
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| 22:57:38 | Bger | amiconn: congrats!!! :) |
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| 22:58:44 | * | Bger smells near unicode |
| 22:59:11 | Bger | lostlogic: mine didn't entered in iriver fw last time i plugged in the usb ... |
| 22:59:49 | San | did the scroll bug get fixed in the new daily build? I heard it did |
| 22:59:50 | amiconn | Now I could need a Makefile wizard :/ |
| 22:59:59 | amiconn | Ah, and perl of course |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:11 | amiconn | This stuff needs to be integrated ino the build system |
| 23:00:59 | * | Bger is helpless in these areas |
| 23:01:01 | drumRBoy320 | is there a nw bleeding edge since last night? |
| 23:01:33 | Bger | drumRBoy320 everytime you see something new on bottom of the home page, there is a new bleeding edge build |
| 23:01:49 | chopped_pork | selfextractor smells of windows, what are you guys upto? |
| 23:02:01 | Bger | in fact, the changes on the home page are made *after* the builds complete |
| 23:02:16 | Bger | chopped_pork: something like small bootloader for some of the archos devices |
| 23:02:35 | Bger | because the rockbox became too big for original firmware to want to load it |
| 23:02:54 | chopped_pork | Bger: whew, thanks :) |
| 23:03:32 | chopped_pork | i'll join you in smelling then ;) |
| 23:03:37 | Bger | hehehe |
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| 23:08:06 | Bger | hellsaviour: is it ok? |
| 23:08:18 | hellsaviour | hey guys me again, sorry for the noobie questions, when I try and play music on RB (with bootloader V2 [thank you bger] and latest daily build) it says something about missing .rockbox folder and lack of codecs, what do I need to do to get music playing? It also wont let me access the plugins file? |
| 23:08:42 | ModernExecutive | amiconn, are you working with cvs? |
| 23:09:28 | Bger | hellsaviour: ok |
| 23:09:37 | Bger | now u need the rockbox itself |
| 23:09:41 | amiconn | ModernExecutive: 'course |
| 23:10:05 | Bger | hellsaviour: see here: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml (the bottom of the page) |
| 23:10:06 | hellsaviour | Bger: how do I go about doing that? |
| 23:10:26 | ModernExecutive | amiconn: i was trying to merge the bootloader with a us version of the h300's firmware. has that been tried? |
| 23:10:41 | amiconn | I don't know |
| 23:10:43 | Bger | u need something that will unzip the .rockbox folder (afaik it's a problem for mac) |
| 23:11:07 | Bger | ModernExecutive: linus has 2 H320 *US* |
| 23:11:13 | amiconn | Don't have a H300 (yet) |
| 23:11:14 | Bger | and none intl h3x0 |
| 23:11:21 | hellsaviour | bger: do i need to DL the player .zip at the bottom of the page? |
| 23:11:28 | ModernExecutive | bger: i know. but he's primarily working with international *firmware* |
| 23:11:30 | Bger | no, u need the h300 |
| 23:11:36 | ModernExecutive | my problem is that I don't know where to start with cvs. |
| 23:11:41 | Bger | (named as iriver h300) |
| 23:11:52 | ModernExecutive | otherwise, i would try to merge the bootloader onto the us firmware myself |
| 23:11:54 | hellsaviour | hmm, ok ill try that, thanks a lot for the help, brb if theres a prob |
| 23:12:00 | Bger | ah, ModernExecutive, sorry |
| 23:12:09 | Bger | ModernExecutive: do u use DRM ? |
| 23:13:00 | ModernExecutive | personally, no. but i wanted to experiment and see if the bootloader could coexist with the drm key |
| 23:13:27 | ModernExecutive | it's theorized that the drm key resides in a portion of the flash that doesn't get overwritten when you flash up with a us version of the firmware |
| 23:13:50 | ModernExecutive | upgrading with an international version, of course, overwrites that portion |
| 23:13:50 | Bger | hm, then i suggest u to wait and ask linus |
| 23:14:00 | ModernExecutive | will he be back soon? |
| 23:14:02 | Bger | in fact there are 2 theories |
| 23:14:08 | Bger | about linus : i don't know |
| 23:14:16 | Bger | the first is the one you said |
| 23:14:28 | Bger | the second is that the DRM key is stored in the eeprom |
| 23:14:30 | amiconn | The decompressor has a total size of 1200 bytes, which already include the (mostly unused) 512 byte vector table |
| 23:15:14 | Bger | amiconn: and the "smashed" rockbox? |
| 23:15:38 | ModernExecutive | would anyone well-versed in cvs be willing to merge a us version and the bootloader? (i can supply the firmware) |
| 23:16:04 | Bger | ModernExecutive: why do you need cvs to do it ? |
| 23:16:05 | markun | amiconn: great new ami! |
| 23:16:10 | drumRBoy320 | hmm, tha'd be cool, but what about all the ppl who've already done the intn'l |
| 23:16:16 | amiconn | Total size of (not-yet-too-large) recorder v1 firmware goes 200022 bytes -> 123942 bytes |
| 23:16:26 | ModernExecutive | the firmware patcher program doesn't recognize the US firmware |
| 23:16:31 | Bger | wow:) a big diff |
| 23:16:39 | amiconn | Startup time penalty is ~1 second |
| 23:16:49 | ModernExecutive | and the rockbox page seemed to suggest that CVS was one way to merge the firmware with the bootloader |
| 23:17:07 | ModernExecutive | i wasn't aware of another program that could descramble the hex, merge the bins, and then spit out another hex |
| 23:17:17 | chopped_pork | ModernExecutive: cvs doesn't do that |
| 23:17:25 | chopped_pork | ModernExecutive: it only fetches the source |
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| 23:17:40 | ModernExecutive | i was beginning to think that |
| 23:17:43 | Bger | ModernExecutive: i can patch one fw for u ... |
| 23:17:47 | Bger | but it's risky ... |
| 23:17:49 | amiconn | Bger: Yes, uclpack compresses almost as good as gzip, but the decompressor is really small |
| 23:18:15 | ModernExecutive | i'm aware of the risks |
| 23:18:18 | amiconn | It's made even smaller by only supporting one of the several compression algorithms offered by ucl |
| 23:18:27 | ModernExecutive | what would you use to patch it? |
| 23:18:36 | Bger | amiconn: anyway, at some point in the future rb on this devices will need 2 stage boot (probably) |
| 23:18:53 | amiconn | Why? |
| 23:19:08 | Bger | if the compressed image goes above 200k ... |
| 23:19:27 | Bger | ModernExecutive: i can edit the source of mkboot ... |
| 23:19:28 | amiconn | That's a long way to go... |
| 23:19:34 | Bger | yeah, you're right |
| 23:20:12 | amiconn | v1 firmware might even go below the barrier again with added unicode, when the gui api conversion is done |
| 23:20:25 | Bger | ModernExecutive: if u flash it and it doesn't start .... |
| 23:20:53 | amiconn | The player also has this 200KB limit, but we are at ~148KB right now |
| 23:21:12 | amiconn | The other devices (fm recorder, recorder v2, Ondios) have a 400KB limit |
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| 23:21:32 | amiconn | ...but we will get into problems with rombox way before reaching that |
| 23:21:41 | Bger | yeah... |
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| 23:21:54 | amiconn | (rombox means rockbox running directly from ROM, i.e. uncompressed) |
| 23:22:14 | Musicmad | is it easy to put the peakmeter at the recording settings screen so you can monitor while adjusting gain? |
| 23:22:17 | Bger | anyway ... reaching 200k compressed means uncompressed rockbox to reach > 300k ... |
| 23:22:28 | amiconn | yes |
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| 23:22:55 | amiconn | Rombox will become impossible if we exceed 228KB uncompressed |
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| 23:23:05 | Bger | btw, now we can put credits again in the core |
| 23:23:49 | hellsaviour | Bger: whats happened is that Mac OsX is recognising the .iriver folder as a hidden folder, so its not showing any of the info. Im just trying to find a way round it noiw |
| 23:24:04 | amiconn | ($KB more for player - ironically the platform with the least size problems) |
| 23:24:14 | amiconn | s/$/4/ |
| 23:24:28 | lostlogic | hellsaviour: osx not showing it as hidden shouldn't have any effect ont he player's ability to read the files in it |
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| 23:24:36 | Bger | hellsaviour: do you have console tools |
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| 23:24:53 | Bger | hellsaviour: do u see the .rockbx folder in the zip? |
| 23:25:07 | Bger | s/.rockbx/.rockbox |
| 23:25:19 | hellsaviour | lostlogic: but it means I cant copy them across into the H300 |
| 23:25:21 | hellsaviour | bger: no |
| 23:25:36 | Bger | iirc the way is to use console tools ... |
| 23:25:45 | lostlogic | hellsaviour: just unzip the file straight onto the player uten |
| 23:25:46 | lostlogic | then |
| 23:25:51 | ModernExecutive | bger: how do I get you the 1.03 us firmware? |
| 23:26:07 | lostlogic | from a console: cd /path/to/iriver;unzip /path/to/daily_build.zip |
| 23:26:26 | hellsaviour | well, ive copied the whole of the latest daily built into the root direc. and rockbox still wont boot up |
| 23:26:27 | Bger | hristo.kovachevATgmail or try first dcc |
| 23:26:52 | Bger | or give me a link to get it directly from the site |
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| 23:27:11 | ModernExecutive | http://www.medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-firmware/H300(103US).hex |
| 23:27:28 | Bger | ok |
| 23:27:53 | Bger | w8 |
| 23:27:56 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 23:28:32 | amiconn | Bger: If we ever get rockbox near the 200KB compressed barrier, we can save 26 bytes more. |
| 23:28:37 | amiconn | ;) |
| 23:28:40 | Bger | hehehe :))) |
| 23:29:05 | amiconn | For simplicity, I add the whole rockbox.ucl file verbatim, which includes the header |
| 23:29:10 | Bger | we can save even from renaming .rockbox to RB |
| 23:29:43 | Bger | and abbreviating the settings :) |
| 23:30:12 | amiconn | Can you spell "user-friendliness" ;) |
| 23:30:23 | Kohlrabi | u-f? |
| 23:30:44 | Musicmad | :) |
| 23:30:59 | amiconn | Seriously, another potentially spac-saving thing would be l10n v2 |
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| 23:32:03 | amiconn | Meanwhile there is a ton of strings that are never used on the archos devices because the options don't exist on them |
| 23:32:33 | amiconn | Same goes for the voice files which are really tight now |
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| 23:32:55 | amiconn | A few strings more and I would have to switch to 8kHz sample rate :( |
| 23:32:57 | Bger | aga |
| 23:32:59 | Bger | aha |
| 23:33:10 | Bger | :(( |
| 23:33:19 | Bger | this would sound baad |
| 23:33:29 | amiconn | We already are at 12 kHz |
| 23:33:37 | Bger | ModernExecutive: w8, i'm working on it |
| 23:33:42 | ModernExecutive | thank you! |
| 23:33:53 | amiconn | I would prefer to increase this to 16 kHz for iriver, but that requires l10n v2... |
| 23:34:07 | Bger | i'll first flash a 1.28k to be sure the bootloader.bin i've got is OK |
| 23:34:10 | amiconn | (well, not strictly, but practically) |
| 23:34:27 | * | Bger prods Bagder |
| 23:34:28 | Bger | ;) |
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| 23:35:02 | drumRBoy320 | is there any way to change the background color to a less horrible blue, or another color alltogether? |
| 23:35:13 | ModernExecutive | ok |
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| 23:35:28 | mirak | hi |
| 23:35:34 | mirak | rockbox supports the ipod ? |
| 23:35:39 | drumRBoy320 | is there a hex value somewhere? |
| 23:35:54 | Kyl3 | mirak: Yes |
| 23:36:02 | Febs | Mirak: there is a port in progress, but it is nowhere near complete. |
| 23:36:02 | Kyl3 | But its usless as of now |
| 23:36:09 | mirak | ok |
| 23:36:21 | mirak | I want to do something for H300 |
| 23:36:30 | mirak | where to start ? |
| 23:37:03 | Febs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ?topic=DevelopmentGuide |
| 23:38:17 | mirak | Febs: merci |
| 23:39:07 | Bger | ModernExecutive: i'm not getting the right md5sum :( |
| 23:39:53 | lostlogic | Bger: no thoughts about how I can be building binaries that work in the sim. but not on the actual player? :( |
| 23:40:38 | ModernExecutive | so it won't work? |
| 23:40:45 | Bger | lostlogic: i have similar, but not the same problem |
| 23:40:54 | Bger | ModernExecutive: trying again |
| 23:41:03 | drumRBoy320 | y dosent linus release a pre patched perfect h300.hex file?? |
| 23:41:16 | Bger | NO, HE CANT |
| 23:41:19 | lostlogic | drumRBoy320: IP |
| 23:41:20 | Bger | pos |
| 23:41:22 | drumRBoy320 | :( |
| 23:41:27 | Bger | sorry for caps |
| 23:41:47 | drumRBoy320 | would that be grounds for lawsuit from iriver |
| 23:41:57 | lostlogic | yep |
| 23:42:06 | drumRBoy320 | like, he'd be stealing and re-distributing irivers stuff |
| 23:42:27 | drumRBoy320 | there should be an underground division of rockbox, that dist. hex files |
| 23:42:28 | drumRBoy320 | :) |
| 23:42:46 | Benacool | not a good idea lol |
| 23:43:09 | drumRBoy320 | one word... #rbug |
| 23:43:15 | drumRBoy320 | rockboxunderground |
| 23:43:20 | drumRBoy320 | hehe, JK |
| 23:43:26 | Bger | sounds like bug ... :) |
| 23:43:40 | Bger | the right bug |
| 23:43:41 | Bger | haha |
| 23:44:19 | drumRBoy320 | Benacool: hahahahahaha |
| 23:44:25 | Benacool | ?! |
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| 23:44:50 | drumRBoy320 | i. //was// jk'n |
| 23:44:56 | drumRBoy320 | ne way bbl |
| 23:45:09 | Benacool | i know... but you're strange ;-) |
| 23:47:00 | drumRBoy320 | ;) im not a weirdo, im just kinda hyper since i've ate about 300 sweet tarts from my halloween left over candy, and im still excited about having working rockbox |
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| 23:51:17 | Bger | ~>mkboot -h300 H300_unmodified.hex bootloader-h300.bin new.hex |
| 23:51:17 | Bger | Wrote 0x3fcfd7 bytes in new.hex |
| 23:51:30 | Bger | ~>md5sum.exe new.hex |
| 23:51:30 | Bger | 8ed153419bf8416709c397680475dcab *new.hex |
| 23:51:33 | Bger | :'( |
| 23:51:48 | Bger | the correct sum is d693e80025fbc5530ce031a5ee414c82 |
| 23:52:57 | Bger | anyone here who has patched h300 with mkboot & bootloader ver 2 ? |
| 23:53:11 | lostlogic | yeah |
| 23:53:12 | lostlogic | I have |
| 23:53:19 | ModernExecutive | correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that checksum just good for the 1.28K fw? |
| 23:53:25 | ModernExecutive | the one to which I referred you was 1.03 US |
| 23:53:39 | ModernExecutive | and the 1.28 EU FW throws out a different checksum |
| 23:53:45 | ModernExecutive | er md5 sum |
| 23:53:53 | lostlogic | ugh, binary format is wrong from the 2nd stinking byte on the firmware I build with my toolchain, DEATH |
| 23:54:13 | ModernExecutive | so perhaps that is a correct sum for the 1.03 us fw? |
| 23:54:26 | Bger | ModernExecutive: NO |
| 23:54:40 | Bger | i was trying to patch 1.28K with mkboot |
| 23:54:43 | San | is there still a big with the scrolling? |
| 23:54:47 | ModernExecutive | oh |
| 23:54:49 | ModernExecutive | my mistake |
| 23:55:00 | Bger | and it is supposed to get a d693e80025fbc5530ce031a5ee414c82 sum :( |
| 23:55:03 | ModernExecutive | right |
| 23:55:04 | Bger | but ... |
| 23:55:26 | Bger | lostlogic: u have patched it ? |
| 23:55:46 | lostlogic | Bger: yeah, patched, got correct chksum |
| 23:55:52 | Bger | under linux ? |
| 23:56:11 | lostlogic | lostlogic@lost ~/rockbox $ md5sum H300-rbv2.hex |
| 23:56:11 | lostlogic | d693e80025fbc5530ce031a5ee414c82 H300-rbv2.hex |
| 23:56:27 | Bger | ok, i was trying under cygwin .... |
| 23:56:27 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) |
| 23:56:49 | lostlogic | ah |
| 23:56:55 | Bger | lostlogic: can u take then http://www.medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-firmware/H300(103US).hex and patch it |
| 23:57:05 | lostlogic | no modifications to mkboot needed? |
| 23:57:10 | Bger | no ... |
| 23:57:22 | Bger | it doesn't check for md5sum |
| 23:57:34 | lostlogic | *nod* |
| 23:57:40 | lostlogic | 403 on that link |
| 23:57:42 | lostlogic | ModernExecutive: ? |
| 23:58:02 | ModernExecutive | http://medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-firmware/H300(103US).hex |
| 23:58:28 | Bger | lostlogic: beware of the brackets |
| 23:58:36 | lostlogic | escaped them |
| 23:58:36 | Bger | wget -c -t 0 "http://www.medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-firmware/H300(103US).hex" |
| 23:58:49 | Bger | huh |
| 23:58:52 | ModernExecutive | i can dcc it to you if you'd like? |
| 23:58:55 | lostlogic | still 403 |
| 23:58:56 | lostlogic | sure |
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