| 00:00:07 | | Join Hooligan [0] (i=Hooligan@Node147-61-52-66.1dial.com) |
| 00:01:12 | Hooligan | Now, this may be a silly question. But is the radio currently accessable in Rockbox-H300? |
| 00:01:26 | Bagder | nope |
| 00:01:46 | Hooligan | Ah, okay. Well that makes it easy then. |
| 00:03:28 | JdGordon | Hooligan: u can make it accessable, but it doesnt work |
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| 00:04:42 | Hooligan | I see. Well, it's cool to have Rockbox actually playing music at any rate. |
| 00:08:42 | Hooligan | Oh, one other question. USB support on the H300 yet? |
| 00:08:49 | JdGordon | no |
| 00:09:26 | Hooligan | Right, thanks. |
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| 00:11:11 | mirak | Hooligan: what do you mean by USB support ? |
| 00:12:09 | Febs | This is funny. People on Mistic River claim that Rockbox sounds better than the iriver firmware. H100 users claimed exactly the opposite. |
| 00:12:30 | Hooligan | Somehow I think people are hearing what they want to hear. |
| 00:12:35 | Bagder | hehe |
| 00:12:41 | JdGordon | they really think there is a diff? |
| 00:12:47 | preglow | there is a diff |
| 00:12:56 | preglow | i don't know how audible it is, however |
| 00:12:57 | * | JdGordon doesnt hear one |
| 00:13:06 | preglow | nah, me neither |
| 00:13:13 | JdGordon | of course.. ive been destryoing my ears for 20 years :Dd |
| 00:13:21 | Moos | depand on the hear sensibility of anyone |
| 00:13:31 | Hooligan | If there's a difference, it's pretty small. |
| 00:13:41 | Hooligan | Except for the whole gapless bit, that's certainly nice. |
| 00:13:52 | Febs | I chalk it up to expectation bias. |
| 00:13:58 | Febs | And possibly differences in volume. |
| 00:14:03 | Bagder | I wonder what these people would say about an original-firmware comparison between the h300 and the h100 |
| 00:14:08 | Moos | I wait un patiently the lenOx stuff |
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| 00:14:39 | Moos | and the EQ of preglow of course :) |
| 00:14:42 | Hooligan | Someone needs to do a blind test comparing a file played on the original firmware and rockbox |
| 00:15:10 | Febs | Someone volunteered to do one, and the only thing that is holding it up is that i haven't had a chance to prepare the clips for him. |
| 00:15:25 | mirak | JdGordon: what means USB works on rockbox for H300 ? You mean UMS ? |
| 00:15:31 | Hooligan | It should be interesting to see the results of such a test. |
| 00:15:33 | JdGordon | i dunno |
| 00:15:58 | Bagder | mirak: rockbox doesn't support usb on h300, ums or not |
| 00:16:11 | Bagder | afaik |
| 00:16:13 | iobound | linusn, i've written a libdumb plugin which works fine on the h300 for disk writing, but when i try to get actual audio output with pcm_play_data(), rbx crashes with "illegal instruction" after a few calls to get_more() |
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| 00:16:15 | mirak | ums and charging |
| 00:16:21 | mirak | that's two I see |
| 00:16:52 | | Join FingerSoup [0] (i=icechat5@S010600508df503dc.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 00:17:20 | FingerSoup | hi all |
| 00:17:41 | JdGordon | hi |
| 00:18:05 | iobound | linusn, do you know if the pcm_*() methods are OK, for h300 plugins? is there a max size get_more() should return? I noticed rbsound.c from rockboy seems to define some DMA limit to 1024 bytes. |
| 00:18:15 | iobound | does rockboy even have sound? afaics, the sound code is commented out |
| 00:18:28 | Bagder | it does not |
| 00:18:35 | FingerSoup | Having issues with plugin development. rb->button_get(true) doesn't seem to block on input using the simulator.... |
| 00:18:42 | LinusN | iobound: i don't think those functions have worked for a long time |
| 00:18:50 | iobound | oh :( |
| 00:19:00 | iobound | because it seems to loop the very first buffer a couple of times, and then it crashes |
| 00:19:01 | FingerSoup | is this normal? |
| 00:19:10 | iobound | linusn although it works perfectly (with audio) in the win32 simulator :) |
| 00:19:41 | FingerSoup | using h100 Win32 sim |
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| 00:24:36 | amiconn | FingerSoup: rb->button_get(true) is _supposed to block |
| 00:24:57 | amiconn | Ah, you say it doesn't ... |
| 00:26:00 | FingerSoup | no, It's bypassing it. I've also used button_clear_queue() to ensure it isn't an erronious button press somewhere.... |
| 00:29:47 | iobound | linusN: Do you know if it would be a lot of work to get those pcm_ plugin methods working again? |
| 00:31:56 | FingerSoup | button_get(true) is returning 32896 |
| 00:32:42 | FingerSoup | without pressing a button... |
| 00:33:00 | iobound | ok, i'm off, seeya later |
| 00:33:09 | FingerSoup | any ideas? |
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| 00:38:05 | amiconn | FingerSoup: Not really... |
| 00:38:18 | amiconn | It shouldn't do this |
| 00:38:24 | FingerSoup | It's not a common problem with the sim then... |
| 00:38:45 | amiconn | 32896 is x0x8080, which means BUTTON_RIGHT | BUTTON_REL |
| 00:39:14 | amiconn | I never observed this... but maybe it's in fact happening here too... |
| 00:39:37 | amiconn | No time to look into it though :/ |
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| 00:41:14 | FingerSoup | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/go1a1w41.html |
| 00:41:29 | FingerSoup | my code. is there somthing glaringly wrong in here? |
| 00:41:42 | FingerSoup | the call is at the beginning |
| 00:42:42 | FingerSoup | it's the only place in my code where i am accepting button input... |
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| 00:50:09 | XavierGr | LinusN: are you here? |
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| 00:50:44 | linuxstb | FingerSoup: Do other plugins work OK for you in the sim? e.g. Sudoku uses a similar call to rb->button_get(true) |
| 00:50:47 | XavierGr | I am back I can open my clicky H140 if you want... |
| 00:51:15 | LinusN | XavierGr: yes |
| 00:51:37 | XavierGr | do you want to proceed? |
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| 00:53:30 | LinusN | XavierGr: you can wait with that |
| 00:53:53 | XavierGr | oh okay. You mean wait for another time? |
| 00:54:15 | LinusN | yes, i might get hold of a clicking board |
| 00:54:30 | XavierGr | ah okay then. |
| 00:54:47 | XavierGr | If you find a hardware mod that fix this please share it with us |
| 00:56:39 | LinusN | of course |
| 00:57:14 | XavierGr | ah pitty and I brought my soldering iron with me ;p |
| 00:57:39 | XavierGr | hehe sometime I will have to fix that problem with the loose audio jack. |
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| 01:00:18 | dropandho | hey linus you round? |
| 01:01:01 | amiconn | FingerSoup: I just had an idea... You do this right at the beginning of a plugin? |
| 01:01:41 | amiconn | If so, and you start the plugin with Right from the browser, it's quite normal that you get BUTTON_RIGHT | BUTTON_REL |
| 01:02:24 | amiconn | button_clear_queue() doesn't necessarily prevent this (and using it is usually a bad idea) |
| 01:02:53 | amiconn | ...in case the user releases the button *after* button_clear_queue() was called |
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| 01:07:20 | LinusN | dropandho: yup |
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| 01:07:51 | dropandho | just wanted to thank you for checking in on the thread |
| 01:07:56 | dropandho | and spending your time on it |
| 01:07:59 | dropandho | i appreciate it |
| 01:08:11 | dropandho | i see the_winch might have some insight! |
| 01:08:13 | dropandho | so thanks a ton |
| 01:08:23 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 01:09:23 | dropandho | didn't mean to distract |
| 01:09:29 | dropandho | just wanted to give you a shout |
| 01:10:11 | dropandho | ohh, and it looks like the_winch just posted something to the thread |
| 01:10:52 | XavierGr | LinusN: I took the plunge and opened it apart. (couldn't wait) I have a scanner and I will try to make some images of the mainboard. |
| 01:10:53 | LinusN | i just emailed him |
| 01:10:59 | LinusN | cool |
| 01:11:04 | dropandho | yeah, not bad |
| 01:11:11 | dropandho | good people! |
| 01:11:33 | dropandho | do you ever have time to use your players with all this work? |
| 01:11:41 | dropandho | (for their intended purpose that is) |
| 01:12:19 | LinusN | i use my h140 daily |
| 01:12:51 | dropandho | ok, good! |
| 01:12:58 | LinusN | i gotta get some sleep |
| 01:13:04 | dropandho | the work at least makes your experience better |
| 01:13:08 | dropandho | night Linus |
| 01:13:10 | LinusN | cu tomorrow guys |
| 01:13:14 | JdGordon | nn |
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| 01:24:15 | mirak | am importing rockbox into eclipse, that's horribly long :) |
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| 01:34:57 | preglow | people should listen to roger whittaker more often |
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| 01:40:05 | mirak | when the music's over |
| 01:43:16 | preglow | people should also start to realise that 12" vinyl is the only format worth considering |
| 01:43:19 | preglow | but time to sleep, alter |
| 01:43:22 | preglow | later, even |
| 01:45:21 | ze | whats wrong with analog optical |
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| 03:03:40 | lostlogicx | The primary parts of my profiling architecture are coded and compile. Remaining is borrowing code from teh other profile patch to handle writing out, and handling yields. |
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| 04:07:39 | lostlogic | dernit, I'm going to have to use a separate tick. |
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| 04:11:18 | pinkutank | ermm gonna log off quick |
| 04:11:36 | pinkutank | just wanted to announce that there is a new firmware for the h120 and h300 series |
| 04:11:38 | pinkutank | http://service.iriver.co.kr/qk_pds_ok.asp?path=2&idx=606&p_name=H120 |
| 04:11:38 | pinkutank | here is the new firmware for us, as far as i dnerstand we have wav/mp3 and bitrate seleciton while recording, didnt understand the rest |
| 04:12:33 | pinkutank | http://service.iriver.co.kr/qk_pds_ok.asp?path=1&idx=607&p_name=H320 and this is the h320 one |
| 04:12:41 | pinkutank | gnight |
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| 04:37:43 | JdGordon | has any1 got the program vPod ? |
| 04:41:08 | lostlogic | WTH does timers.c:timer_register take a number of cycles (rather than a number of ms or us), but also automagically scales the timer when the CPU frequency changes, thereby changing the number of _cycles_ that the timer is running for? |
| 04:44:41 | lostlogic | cycles is based on CPU_FREQ not cpu_frequency, and constant relative to that? |
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| 05:32:57 | Jungti1234 | wow! |
| 05:33:04 | Jungti1234 | firmware upgrade |
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| 05:37:54 | Jungti1234 | great |
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| 05:59:23 | Membrillo | does anyone else agree that for h3xx, when pressing stop while scrolling through folders it returns to the WPS rather than stopping the song? |
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| 06:00:05 | ashridah | yep |
| 06:00:56 | Membrillo | and also, when pressing navi on the WPS it goes to the file location rather than root? |
| 06:03:52 | lostlogic | my attempt at a profiling arch. is complete except for yield handling, some warning fixage, and then that pesky "actually making it run on the player" part of the program. |
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| 06:06:20 | Jungti1234 | hi Membrillo |
| 06:06:28 | Jungti1234 | oh -_- |
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| 07:17:25 | Jungti1234 | hi phaedrus961 |
| 07:18:06 | Jungti1234 | Long time no see. |
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| 07:41:46 | Bgr | morning :) |
| 07:49:29 | JdGordon | morning? evening |
| 07:52:42 | Bgr | heh :) |
| 07:52:49 | Bgr | it depends on where u are :) |
| 07:52:59 | JdGordon | stupid world! |
| 07:53:03 | Bgr | in Europe it's still morning :) |
| 07:53:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, it's evening enough to be morning again here. |
| 07:53:13 | Bgr | hehe :) |
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| 07:55:37 | Jungti1234 | hi Bgr |
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| 07:58:10 | JdGordon | haha.. u offended him bgr |
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| 08:00:11 | | Join Soul-E [0] (n=937c3159@labb.contactor.se) |
| 08:00:22 | Soul-E | hey, for those who don't know, new h3xx US firmware: http://iriverindia.com/sudw_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&searchCategoryIdx=&searchString=&page=1&idx=766&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchCategoryIdx=&tmpSearchString= |
| 08:01:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | v104? |
| 08:03:09 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 08:03:29 | Soul-E | indeed. |
| 08:03:31 | DreamTactix291 | H1xx was bumped to 1.66 and international H3xx was bumped to 1.29 |
| 08:03:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did they add something to H1xx, or just bump the number to pretend like they did? |
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| 08:04:51 | DreamTactix291 | umm supposedly they added a bit to the recording |
| 08:04:52 | DreamTactix291 | though |
| 08:04:55 | DreamTactix291 | i've not flashed to it |
| 08:04:58 | DreamTactix291 | so i've not checked |
| 08:05:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 08:05:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't expect I'll be flashing to it. |
| 08:05:08 | DreamTactix291 | i'll flash to it when the fwpatcher can support it |
| 08:05:12 | DreamTactix291 | and try it for kicks |
| 08:05:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, I might if there's ever a bootloader v7 |
| 08:05:20 | NHeal | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 08:05:20 | NJoin | Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) |
| 08:05:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | But until that day, there's no reason for me to, 'eh? |
| 08:05:40 | DreamTactix291 | well like i said |
| 08:05:46 | DreamTactix291 | if the fwpatcher supports it why not |
| 08:05:53 | DreamTactix291 | i can at least try and see what they did |
| 08:05:56 | Soul-E | 1.66: http://iriverindia.com/sudw_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&searchCategoryIdx=&searchString=&page=1&idx=765&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchCategoryIdx=&tmpSearchString= |
| 08:06:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | They fixed the "shuffle to a pattern" bug. |
| 08:06:45 | Soul-E | You can set recording format to MP3 or WAV on recording setting by pressing A-B button on Standby mode. <−−-thats pretty nifty. |
| 08:06:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | And, OMG, you can display lyrics data marked on WMA format. My life is now complete. </sarcasm> |
| 08:07:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | On the H1x0 I thought you could already pick Mp3 or WAV... |
| 08:07:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or is it the "by pressing A-B button on Standby mode" that's nifty? |
| 08:07:30 | DreamTactix291 | yeah that |
| 08:07:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 08:07:40 | DreamTactix291 | it's been months since i've used the iriver firmware |
| 08:07:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah. Same here |
| 08:08:00 | DreamTactix291 | it's very weak in comparison |
| 08:09:07 | Soul-E | I wish the h3xx had the pick mp3 or wav option |
| 08:09:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | But... but... LYRICS IN WMA. Hehehe |
| 08:09:30 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
| 08:09:34 | DreamTactix291 | but it will eventually most likely |
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| 08:09:51 | DreamTactix291 | no thanks to iriver of course |
| 08:15:20 | Soul-E | I'm happy with the iriver h300 firmware that is available...I don't see a reason to flash to rbx until they have matched the current features, and then topped them. |
| 08:15:48 | DreamTactix291 | well they pretty much had matched most of them when i flashed |
| 08:15:53 | DreamTactix291 | and topped a lot |
| 08:16:00 | DreamTactix291 | with things like gapless playback and such |
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| 08:18:27 | JdGordon | whats the best way to view lyrics with mp3z? |
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| 08:18:44 | ModernExecutive | 'lo |
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| 08:20:20 | Soul-E | lo |
| 08:20:41 | Soul-E | DT- I kinda like the color gui and the way the current gui works. |
| 08:20:52 | Soul-E | stupid question, firmware flashing doesnt affect the hd contents does it |
| 08:21:12 | ModernExecutive | no |
| 08:21:25 | DreamTactix291 | no |
| 08:21:32 | DreamTactix291 | i've done it many many times |
| 08:21:48 | DreamTactix291 | Soul-E: well the H3xx RBX GUI will most likely eventually have some colour |
| 08:22:00 | DreamTactix291 | H1xx iriver GUI was pretty cramped |
| 08:22:35 | Soul-E | the rbx ss' for the h3xx just seem like the text is tiny. way tiny. |
| 08:23:12 | DreamTactix291 | you can adjust the text |
| 08:23:17 | DreamTactix291 | i use a fairly small font myself |
| 08:23:18 | DreamTactix291 | snap |
| 08:23:20 | Bgr | Soul-E: this has its advantages ... like more text on the screen etc |
| 08:23:33 | DreamTactix291 | and it's entirely up to user preference |
| 08:23:38 | DreamTactix291 | there are some huge fonts as well |
| 08:23:40 | Bgr | but yea, u can always change it |
| 08:24:07 | Soul-E | w00t 1.04 US loading... :D |
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| 08:24:41 | Soul-E | I should try out WAV files |
| 08:25:06 | Bgr | 1.04 US ?? |
| 08:25:08 | DreamTactix291 | they'll eat battery like crazy :P |
| 08:25:09 | Bgr | really ??????? |
| 08:25:13 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 08:25:14 | Soul-E | yeah! |
| 08:25:19 | Bgr | video ? :) |
| 08:25:21 | ModernExecutive | n |
| 08:25:24 | ModernExecutive | no |
| 08:25:31 | Soul-E | http://iriverindia.com/sudw_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&searchCategoryIdx=&searchString=&page=1&idx=766&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchCategoryIdx=&tmpSearchString= |
| 08:25:32 | Bgr | <no comment> |
| 08:25:43 | DreamTactix291 | if you want video 1.29K :) |
| 08:25:49 | Soul-E | i told you guys there would be no video a long time ago |
| 08:26:00 | Bgr | if ever |
| 08:26:03 | DreamTactix291 | i find it ironic iriver india has the link to the US firmware |
| 08:26:06 | Bgr | this is really stupid |
| 08:26:16 | ModernExecutive | DT: I agree. |
| 08:26:39 | DreamTactix291 | Bgr: just do what i'd do if i owned an H3xx and wanted video |
| 08:26:40 | ModernExecutive | Iriver america says, "No updates necessary, H300's are currently shipping with the most recent firmware available." |
| 08:26:43 | DreamTactix291 | and flash to 1.29K |
| 08:27:44 | Soul-E | you guys should know how the U.S company gets along with the Korean.... |
| 08:27:55 | Bgr | wow |
| 08:27:55 | Bgr | Added Hebrew/Greek |
| 08:27:55 | Bgr | It can display tag information in Hebrew or Greek. |
| 08:28:48 | Bgr | DreamTactix291: i had US h340, then sold it (after a week or so) and i have intl h340 since feb this year |
| 08:28:56 | DreamTactix291 | ah |
| 08:28:58 | DreamTactix291 | H140 here |
| 08:29:02 | DreamTactix291 | they're all the same |
| 08:29:09 | DreamTactix291 | mine was from the UK though |
| 08:29:16 | Bgr | yeah, i know |
| 08:29:22 | Bgr | only the firmware has diffs |
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| 08:29:40 | Bgr | like lower max vol, different radio freqs, etc |
| 08:29:47 | DreamTactix291 | i always used korean firmware on my H100s |
| 08:30:00 | DreamTactix291 | now i just use rockbox |
| 08:30:13 | Bgr | hm, btw, the update for h300 is not so bad (intl ver) |
| 08:30:48 | ModernExecutive | bah |
| 08:30:53 | Soul-E | whats the diff b/w LCD Power Off B and A in the display menu? |
| 08:31:03 | ModernExecutive | b for battery |
| 08:31:05 | ModernExecutive | a for adapter |
| 08:31:44 | ModernExecutive | or rather, lcd power off b for when you're running off the battery |
| 08:31:56 | ModernExecutive | and lcd power off a for when you're running off an adapter |
| 08:32:05 | ModernExecutive | no gapless WAV playback, or loops, btw |
| 08:32:26 | DreamTactix291 | wav isn't gapless on the H100s either with the iriver firmware |
| 08:32:28 | DreamTactix291 | never was |
| 08:33:12 | ModernExecutive | is it on rbx? |
| 08:33:32 | ModernExecutive | say i want to loop a wav file |
| 08:33:35 | ModernExecutive | is that possible? |
| 08:33:40 | andrewmel | now the u.s. version has its firmware i am wondering how many will go to korean to get video and just give up on that drm crap |
| 08:33:49 | Bgr | hm, at least iriver has fixed some long outstanding bugs .;.. |
| 08:33:54 | Bgr | like shuffle |
| 08:34:04 | Bgr | and hdd not spinning down |
| 08:34:25 | andrewmel | i only ever did shuffle from the whole song collection and never noticed a problem when i did that anyway |
| 08:34:42 | JdGordon | Bgr: is the new fw rbable yet? |
| 08:34:57 | Soul-E | no |
| 08:35:04 | Bgr | JdGordon: if i was u, i would wait until linus proves it |
| 08:35:05 | DreamTactix291 | not yet |
| 08:35:09 | JdGordon | k |
| 08:35:10 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 08:35:13 | Soul-E | just came out within the past few hours |
| 08:35:38 | Bgr | but if you can't resist to take the risk of bricking your player ... :) |
| 08:35:39 | andrewmel | so probably the most important questions i have yet to see answered are |
| 08:35:52 | Bgr | probably you won't do it, but ... better wait |
| 08:35:54 | andrewmel | is drm retained after flashing to this u.s. firmware? |
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| 08:36:02 | JdGordon | haha dne that once... |
| 08:36:07 | Bgr | andrewmel: if the firmware is official. .. |
| 08:36:08 | Soul-E | yes |
| 08:36:11 | andrewmel | can rb work on u.s. and will drm be retained then? |
| 08:36:17 | ModernExecutive | andrew: yes |
| 08:36:19 | Soul-E | I flashed to the new US |
| 08:36:21 | Soul-E | couldnt help myself |
| 08:36:24 | Soul-E | no DRM error messages |
| 08:36:30 | ModernExecutive | er |
| 08:36:32 | ModernExecutive | wait |
| 08:36:36 | Bgr | Soul-E: tryed a DRM song ? |
| 08:36:42 | andrewmel | se have you played any drm music yet? |
| 08:36:47 | Soul-E | dont have any |
| 08:36:58 | Bgr | andrewmel: someone was trying to flash US firm with rb bootloader ... |
| 08:37:04 | Soul-E | what me buy music? |
| 08:37:04 | andrewmel | then why have you never flashed to korean firmware? |
| 08:37:04 | Bgr | it didn't run the bootloader |
| 08:37:07 | ModernExecutive | ... it was I |
| 08:37:18 | Bgr | Soul-E: no :) |
| 08:37:30 | Soul-E | andrewmel- why would i? no movies to watch either |
| 08:37:35 | ModernExecutive | it didn't upgrade the firmware at all |
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| 08:37:43 | andrewmel | .wav playback, rockbox? |
| 08:38:19 | Soul-E | well considering I now have wav playback, and Rbx isn't stable yet, I can wait. and there's now official US firmware, so a bl could be worked on for it. |
| 08:38:41 | JdGordon | a-b mode isnt done for the h300 yet is it? |
| 08:38:41 | Soul-E | if someone wants to provide me with a DRM song I'll gladly test it. |
| 08:38:44 | andrewmel | is it still that problem with foreign firmware SE? |
| 08:38:52 | JdGordon | haha Soul-E |
| 08:39:02 | JdGordon | kind of defeating the purpose of drm there :D |
| 08:39:11 | Soul-E | ;) |
| 08:39:46 | ModernExecutive | honestly, if it doesn't throw up a cant found drm key error, i bet the drm playback is retained |
| 08:40:19 | andrewmel | so can rb still retain it, being the biggie for some who like drm infected music. |
| 08:40:31 | Soul-E | that is the big question we will find out. |
| 08:40:44 | ModernExecutive | what time is it in stockholm? |
| 08:41:14 | Soul-E | I gtg for now. talk more later. adios. idle time. |
| 08:41:19 | ModernExecutive | bye se |
| 08:41:25 | ModernExecutive | & wtg |
| 08:42:41 | andrewmel | what time in the U.S.? |
| 08:42:50 | ModernExecutive | 2:42 AM EST |
| 08:43:00 | andrewmel | middle of the day in India, which may explain why they posted and the sleeping U.S. guys havent yet |
| 08:43:01 | ModernExecutive | 12/1 |
| 08:43:11 | andrewmel | 1/12 here |
| 08:43:16 | ModernExecutive | ... :) |
| 08:43:23 | ModernExecutive | why would anyone in india have a us player? |
| 08:44:02 | ModernExecutive | o l |
| 08:44:02 | andrewmel | excellent question. besides seeing before you bought, or being afraid of all those foreign dealers, why would anybody in the u.s. have one? |
| 08:44:11 | Bgr | because it's cheaper |
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| 08:44:32 | andrewmel | so is a can filled with rocks for listening to music. |
| 08:44:40 | ModernExecutive | lol |
| 08:44:46 | ModernExecutive | i wish I could draw. |
| 08:44:50 | ModernExecutive | that would be a funny image |
| 08:45:06 | DreamTactix291 | if i bought an H3xx i'd buy an international for USBOTG |
| 08:45:07 | DreamTactix291 | which i've used on my PMP and like |
| 08:45:36 | andrewmel | that was a decider for me..... |
| 08:45:47 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 08:45:59 | andrewmel | but have just bought a camera that wont work :) |
| 08:46:01 | ModernExecutive | that's it for me |
| 08:46:02 | ModernExecutive | gnite all |
| 08:46:06 | DreamTactix291 | night |
| 08:46:06 | andrewmel | night |
| 08:46:25 | DreamTactix291 | my camera works with it |
| 08:46:48 | andrewmel | i wanted the canon, it had all the features i wanted but usbotg. |
| 08:47:05 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
| 08:47:11 | | Part tim66 |
| 08:47:16 | andrewmel | but with a 1gb card i get 300 7megapixel images anyway |
| 08:47:29 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
| 08:47:37 | andrewmel | with two of those cards i can go snaphappy for months |
| 08:47:50 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 08:47:53 | DreamTactix291 | oh yes |
| 08:48:05 | DreamTactix291 | i'm really looking forward to shamrockman's firmware if/when it gets done |
| 08:48:13 | DreamTactix291 | PMP is ok at playing video but very picky |
| 08:48:54 | andrewmel | not as picky as the h3xx!!! there is only one acceptable format! |
| 08:49:01 | DreamTactix291 | true |
| 08:49:12 | DreamTactix291 | but the H3xx is an audio player first |
| 08:49:16 | DreamTactix291 | the PMP is the other way around |
| 08:49:42 | andrewmel | yep, and a damn good one. i am looking forward to some of the really slick graphic interfaces that will come in the next few months. :) |
| 08:50:19 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 08:50:36 | DreamTactix291 | i'm curious to see future H3xx WPSes |
| 08:50:42 | DreamTactix291 | my H1xx one is rather plain |
| 08:51:21 | andrewmel | some of the current skins are very good, but the limit of either a white background or a big box on the screen aroudn the title info has been limiting |
| 08:51:36 | DreamTactix291 | yes |
| 08:51:47 | andrewmel | with the ability to stick any info anywhere it will be even better |
| 08:51:47 | DreamTactix291 | you've seen my WPS right? |
| 08:52:13 | andrewmel | yep. at present i am still using engineer2 without the background image. |
| 08:52:26 | andrewmel | i tried to edit the image and it didnt work, so i just left it. |
| 08:52:26 | DreamTactix291 | i'm still using mine |
| 08:52:38 | DreamTactix291 | :) |
| 08:53:05 | andrewmel | in a few weeks i am on holidays (14 work days left) i will get into it then |
| 08:53:58 | DreamTactix291 | i've not tried to make a true image WPS yet |
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| 09:02:37 | JdGordon | who knows about the bmp loading on rb? |
| 09:03:10 | andrewmel | i tried and failed and didnt bother too much with it. i will try again later. |
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| 09:07:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:11:10 | * | JdGordon is giving colour bmp loading a go... should i bother trying to allow it to load bmps wider and higher than the target lcd? |
| 09:11:24 | JdGordon | and if so.. whats a reasonable maximum width/height? |
| 09:11:31 | andrewmel | i would start simple first. |
| 09:11:33 | andrewmel | and small |
| 09:12:01 | andrewmel | but i dont think it works. i did try replacing an image in a wps with a bmp and it didnt show it |
| 09:12:17 | JdGordon | ye, coz the current code rejects colour bmps.. |
| 09:19:12 | Bgr | JdGordon: i don't think we need larger images |
| 09:19:19 | Bgr | in fact, u'd prefer not allowing this |
| 09:19:53 | JdGordon | well... what im trying to do is allow you to load a small part of the bmp... so bmps larger that the screen would be good |
| 09:19:55 | Bgr | JdGordon: see, we have limited memory |
| 09:20:05 | Bgr | hm, yeah |
| 09:20:51 | JdGordon | well.. its only the h300's so far with colour screen right? |
| 09:20:59 | Bgr | ok, if u go the road of loading SINGLE bmp and defining parts of it (which imho is better than loading 20-30 smaller bmps...) then it should be able to load larger bmps |
| 09:21:03 | JdGordon | and they have "plenty" of ram.. so thats such a problem |
| 09:21:50 | Bgr | JdGordon: 32MB RAM doesn't mean that we shouldn't take care of mem usage |
| 09:22:25 | Bgr | and, btw, on my h340 with dircache enabled, the buffer is ~29MB |
| 09:22:32 | JdGordon | no, but the bmp loading function would dump its ram usage once the loaded bmp is returned |
| 09:22:53 | JdGordon | u dont need 32mb to load a 176x120 bmp (or whatever it is)... i hope... |
| 09:22:55 | Bgr | how this ? |
| 09:23:02 | Bgr | yeah, u're right |
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| 09:23:42 | Bgr | 87kbytes for 220x176x18bits/pixel |
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| 09:24:15 | Bgr | 77kb for 16bits/pixel |
| 09:24:26 | JdGordon | the thinkg that wants to load the bmp will need to allocate ram for it on its stack (which will be a defined size for bmo loading), then it calls the loader which will use more than nescacery but once its returned that usage will be dumoped |
| 09:24:44 | Bgr | JdGordon: but ... u use this bmp non-stop |
| 09:24:51 | Bgr | how could you put it on stack then ? |
| 09:25:14 | Bgr | ok, not the bmp, but the image(s) it contains |
| 09:25:19 | JdGordon | ye |
| 09:25:37 | JdGordon | unless it wont work, im trying to emulate bmp2rb and how its used |
| 09:25:57 | Bgr | JdGordon: see, bmp2rb runs on normal PC, not on the target. .. |
| 09:26:02 | Jungti1234 | Bgr: What player do you have? |
| 09:26:05 | Bgr | bmp2rb uses malloc(), etc |
| 09:26:13 | Bgr | Jungti1234: intl h340 |
| 09:26:18 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 09:26:37 | JdGordon | so plugins would do char some_bmp[WIDTH][HEIGHT]; then load_colour_bmp(...,some_bmp,...); then send some_bmp to the lcd when its ready... |
| 09:26:48 | JdGordon | im not sure if thats how the b+w bmps are loaded atm |
| 09:27:07 | Bgr | yes, this is the way (afaik) |
| 09:27:25 | JdGordon | ok, great, so it should all work... (figures crossed :p ) |
| 09:27:29 | Bgr | and some_bmp must not be on the stack, i.e. to be local variable |
| 09:28:08 | JdGordon | :'( woops.. ye, i missed a *... we need to pass a char ** so it can be edited |
| 09:28:17 | Bgr | because WPS refreshes non-stop and therefore uses the image(s) non-stop |
| 09:28:32 | JdGordon | but it doesnt load the image every refresh does it? |
| 09:28:35 | Bgr | hm, no, this is an array |
| 09:28:37 | Jungti1234 | Bgr: http://jungti1234.netcci.net/iriver/h300/rockbox/WPS/iHPod_e.rar : Can you test this? |
| 09:28:51 | Bgr | Jungti1234: w8 a bit |
| 09:29:05 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 09:29:19 | * | JdGordon will test it.. looking for a better wps than the default |
| 09:29:24 | Bgr | JdGordon: yes, of course it doesn't load it on every refresh |
| 09:29:24 | JdGordon | got a screeny? |
| 09:29:33 | JdGordon | ok, so good.. all should be good :p |
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| 09:29:47 | Bgr | but you must keep the image(s) somewhere in the memory |
| 09:30:06 | * | Bgr goes to test |
| 09:30:25 | JdGordon | ah, ok, i dont know how the wps saves its images, but plugins can keep them on their stack? cant it? |
| 09:30:55 | * | Bgr wants bootloader USB .. |
| 09:31:27 | DreamTactix291 | you'll get it :) |
| 09:31:29 | Bgr | JdGordon: yes, if you use the var only in one func and in funcs that this func calls |
| 09:31:49 | Bgr | seriously, i'm afraid of iriver fw not booting ... |
| 09:33:51 | JdGordon | ? if the bmp function is screwed? |
| 09:34:27 | Bgr | LinusN: btw, is there a reason of not clearing the LCD's framebuffer upon turning on the backlight (h300) |
| 09:34:43 | JdGordon | he isnt here..... |
| 09:35:31 | Bgr | JdGordon: i know, but he usually reads the logs |
| 09:35:32 | Bgr | :) |
| 09:35:36 | JdGordon | ah |
| 09:35:44 | Bgr | Jungti1234: u have one obvious problem in your WPS |
| 09:35:51 | JdGordon | so we cant offend him in his absense :'( |
| 09:37:12 | Bgr | Jungti1234: the status bmp (play/pause..) covers the current track number |
| 09:37:23 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
| 09:37:33 | Bgr | yes :( |
| 09:37:47 | Bgr | wanna screenshot ? |
| 09:37:52 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 09:38:52 | Bgr | hm |
| 09:39:01 | Bgr | does the "screendump" work on h300 ? |
| 09:39:02 | Jungti1234 | um? |
| 09:39:08 | Jungti1234 | doesn't |
| 09:39:13 | Bgr | :( |
| 09:39:19 | Bgr | i don't have a camera near me... |
| 09:39:23 | Jungti1234 | hahah |
| 09:39:24 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 09:39:25 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 09:39:57 | Bgr | btw, u can ask someone with Win32 UISim to test it |
| 09:40:22 | Jungti1234 | you can it? |
| 09:40:33 | Bgr | not on this PC... |
| 09:40:49 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 09:41:35 | Bgr | i can try to explain u the problem |
| 09:41:36 | JdGordon | looks ok |
| 09:41:41 | Bgr | hm |
| 09:41:41 | Jungti1234 | Is correct bootloader to new original firmware? |
| 09:41:56 | JdGordon | who wants the screeny? |
| 09:41:57 | Bgr | Jungti1234: i suggest u to wait until linus says so |
| 09:42:10 | Bgr | JdGordon: see the play/pause button |
| 09:42:18 | Bgr | (bitmap) |
| 09:42:27 | Bgr | it covers the current track number |
| 09:42:40 | JdGordon | yup |
| 09:42:53 | JdGordon | hang on |
| 09:42:54 | JdGordon | no |
| 09:43:00 | JdGordon | the horiz line goes through it |
| 09:43:08 | Jungti1234 | JdGordon: Is test of you available? |
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| 09:43:46 | JdGordon | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/dump_0004.bmp |
| 09:43:53 | JdGordon | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/dump_0004.bmp |
| 09:43:57 | JdGordon | the 2nd link |
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| 09:44:09 | Jungti1234 | ah |
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| 09:44:28 | Jungti1234 | Does screendump work? |
| 09:44:53 | JdGordon | the win32 sim |
| 09:44:55 | Bgr | JdGordon? does it really work |
| 09:44:56 | Bgr | ah |
| 09:45:19 | Bgr | hm, strange |
| 09:45:26 | Jungti1234 | Bgr |
| 09:45:39 | JdGordon | press 0 to get the screeny |
| 09:45:41 | Bgr | JdGordon: here the line is under the numbers |
| 09:45:42 | JdGordon | found it accidently |
| 09:45:47 | Jungti1234 | Change font as 'nimbus-14'. |
| 09:46:19 | JdGordon | looks perfect now |
| 09:46:24 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 09:46:34 | Bgr | oh, yes |
| 09:46:37 | Bgr | it's ok |
| 09:46:38 | Jungti1234 | great? |
| 09:46:45 | JdGordon | but that font is too large for the menus |
| 09:46:45 | Bgr | yep, good one |
| 09:46:54 | Jungti1234 | ah.. |
| 09:47:33 | Bgr | JdGordon: u hope this could be solved in near future by adding multiple font support |
| 09:47:34 | JdGordon | can u get the font height dynamically and then move items around to suit the size? |
| 09:47:38 | Bgr | s/u/i |
| 09:47:40 | Jungti1234 | I like more big thing. |
| 09:47:47 | JdGordon | u,i,all... |
| 09:47:56 | Bgr | hehe :) |
| 09:47:58 | JdGordon | big is good in wps, but not in the menus |
| 09:48:08 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 09:48:29 | Jungti1234 | Me and you is different inclination. |
| 09:48:40 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I've just read the logs and I don't understand what you are asking about maximum bitmap size. Your bitmap loading function should take a pointer to a buffer and an integer containing the size of that buffer, and refuse to load anything larger than that buffer. |
| 09:49:03 | JdGordon | no, thats what the current function does... which is silly... |
| 09:49:14 | linuxstb | Why is that silly? |
| 09:49:21 | JdGordon | im not overrightoing the currnet fuinction, adding a new 1 |
| 09:49:28 | JdGordon | coz u cant load parts of the bmp like that |
| 09:49:43 | linuxstb | Why would you want to load parts of a bitmap? |
| 09:49:48 | Bgr | hm, JdGordon, there was a patch in the tracker about that... |
| 09:49:57 | Bgr | linuxstb: to load only one bmp file |
| 09:50:06 | Bgr | not many |
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| 09:50:26 | JdGordon | although in reality.. the only thing u save is having a neater file system |
| 09:50:36 | JdGordon | prob would slow it down a bit.. |
| 09:51:02 | B4gder | you'd still load a whole bmp, then use it in parts |
| 09:51:06 | linuxstb | The idea of having the WPS bitmaps combined into one bmp file is that you load the entire bitmap into a buffer, and then your wps tags specify which parts of that bitmap are displayed where in the screen. |
| 09:51:35 | Bger | yes, and this is better aproach imho |
| 09:52:02 | B4gder | but that has nothing to do with bmp loading |
| 09:52:10 | JdGordon | it really wont make a diff.. if it works correclty you can use whichever method u prefer |
| 09:52:52 | * | JdGordon need s a better ide |
| 09:52:58 | JdGordon | vis studio 6 is pissing me off |
| 09:54:25 | * | ashridah hands JdGordon a copy of vim |
| 09:54:42 | * | JdGordon stabs ashridah in the chest witha rusty blade |
| 09:54:49 | JdGordon | sorry.. but i cant stand vim |
| 09:54:56 | B4gder | emacs! |
| 09:55:00 | Bger | :D |
| 09:55:28 | JdGordon | na i need a good ide which lets me open each file in a seperate window... not tabs or child windows like vis studio |
| 09:55:39 | * | Bger should try some day emacs, but after learning well vim |
| 09:55:56 | Bger | JdGordon: try ConTEXT |
| 09:56:06 | Bger | context.cx or something similar |
| 09:56:10 | Bger | free |
| 09:56:35 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Are you suggesting that instead of loading the whole bitmap in a single call to load_bitmap() and using it in X parts, you will make X number of calls to the load_bitmap function? |
| 09:57:03 | JdGordon | ye, which is why i said the only reall diff is the directory neatness |
| 09:57:31 | JdGordon | for the moment im just trying to get it loaad load the entire bmp.. then we can play with that craziness... |
| 09:58:17 | B4gder | those two things should be kept apart imo |
| 09:58:37 | Bger | imo too |
| 09:58:48 | JdGordon | how? why? |
| 09:58:53 | B4gder | load bmp |
| 09:58:55 | B4gder | use parts |
| 09:58:59 | linuxstb | JdGordon: What is the advantage of loading a bitmap in parts? |
| 09:59:11 | B4gder | because they are separate issues, they should be treated by different functions |
| 09:59:12 | JdGordon | i dunno... less files in the dir |
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| 09:59:45 | Bger | JdGordon: really, see the rb's patch tracker @ sf.net ... |
| 09:59:49 | linuxstb | JdGordon: No, that's the advantage of combining the bitmaps into one. I'm talking about the difference between 1) loading the entire bitmap and using it in parts; and 2) loading the bitmap in parts |
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| 10:00:35 | linuxstb | 1) is much more efficient (and simpler) than 2). |
| 10:00:55 | JdGordon | 1 doesnt work with no malloc and large files |
| 10:01:12 | JdGordon | loading a section would allow u to load any bmp of any size... |
| 10:01:20 | JdGordon | with no memory restarints |
| 10:01:22 | linuxstb | Yes it does. You still have a fixed amount of memory to store the image data in. |
| 10:02:05 | JdGordon | right... but its much better to load a 176x128 section 15 times then to try and load a 2000x1990 bmp and store it |
| 10:02:17 | B4gder | I still disagree to that approach |
| 10:02:20 | B4gder | and will vote against it |
| 10:03:17 | JdGordon | so youd rather set a max size limit on bmps? |
| 10:03:20 | Jungti1234 | Bger: Do you use it? |
| 10:03:24 | B4gder | yes I would |
| 10:03:25 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Absolutely. |
| 10:03:30 | JdGordon | y? |
| 10:03:55 | B4gder | simplicity |
| 10:03:59 | linuxstb | It's how Rockbox's memory management work. |
| 10:04:12 | Bger | Jungti1234: no, i don't use WPSes with bitmaps because of the flickering |
| 10:04:17 | Bger | for now... |
| 10:04:24 | JdGordon | B4gder: bah, linuxstb, ok thats a workable answer :D |
| 10:04:33 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 10:04:43 | B4gder | you can bah all you want |
| 10:04:52 | JdGordon | ok, u guys win |
| 10:04:56 | JdGordon | ill leave that out |
| 10:05:27 | B4gder | kiss is a major guideline in this project |
| 10:05:42 | linuxstb | JdGordon: There are two ways Rockbox could work: 1) malloc, 2) Fixed buffers - and you will not win an argument to introduce malloc :) |
| 10:05:53 | JdGordon | i understand |
| 10:06:01 | JdGordon | which is why im not suggesting allowing malloc |
| 10:06:04 | Jungti1234 | Bger: I don't know why it flicker. |
| 10:08:06 | Bger | Jungti1234: me neither |
| 10:08:16 | Bger | maybe something with lcd updates... |
| 10:08:16 | JdGordon | maybe im not being understood properly? plugins or whatever says "i want the rect 14x10 px sarting at (5,0) from some_pic.bmp... it passes a pointer to the stack which is the correct size of the rect being asked for.. the loader then fills it with the rect and every1 is happy... |
| 10:10:10 | Jungti1234 | bye all |
| 10:10:15 | JdGordon | ttyl |
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| 10:10:56 | JdGordon | linuxstb: did that make more sense? or should i shutup and get back to the code :p |
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| 10:15:12 | linuxstb | There could be some cases where a load_color_bitmap_part() function may be useful. But the main use of your function will be for the WPS, and for that, we just want to load the whole of a single bitmap and use it in parts. |
| 10:15:29 | JdGordon | ok |
| 10:15:44 | JdGordon | i dont think there would be much (if any) overhead in allowing it tho |
| 10:15:49 | JdGordon | which is why i brought it up |
| 10:15:53 | linuxstb | Why would you have a bitmap that you didn't want to use all of? |
| 10:16:01 | Bger | JdGordon: just make 2 functions : one that loads a bitmap with given filename, pointer to memory and size of that memory |
| 10:16:13 | JdGordon | e.g a game which has a background that moves with the character |
| 10:16:32 | Bger | and the other which returns a part of bitmap |
| 10:17:19 | Bger | substitute the first "bitmap" with ".bmp file" |
| 10:17:21 | linuxstb | JdGordon: That's a very special case. Also, it would mean spinning the disk up each time you wanted to load another part of the bitmap - which is a bad thing. |
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| 10:18:32 | JdGordon | yes it is.. but thats just what i can tihnk of now.. maybe some1 will come 3 months from now and complain becuas ehe has some awesome idea but cant do it coz of theis limit |
| 10:18:33 | webguest08 | when will rockbox have support for iriver h3xx 1.29k firmware? |
| 10:18:34 | JdGordon | i dunno |
| 10:18:39 | webguest08 | is anybody working on it? |
| 10:18:42 | JdGordon | refer to topic |
| 10:18:49 | Bger | hehe :) |
| 10:19:02 | webguest08 | ;) |
| 10:19:06 | Bger | webguest08: it will. But don't ask when . probably soon. |
| 10:19:14 | webguest08 | sry guys |
| 10:19:35 | Bger | in fact, whether when linus finds time to do it or when he realise a new bootloader for h300 |
| 10:19:54 | Bger | webguest08: heh, u can try it on your own with current boot loader, of course |
| 10:20:13 | Bger | if you're ok with the risk of bricking it |
| 10:20:29 | linuxstb | JdGordon: In which case, we can add the load_colour_bitmap_part() function then. It will be a waste to add a function that isn't being used. |
| 10:20:37 | webguest08 | i have already send mine back one time im not risking of doing it again !:D |
| 10:20:38 | JdGordon | ok |
| 10:20:42 | * | JdGordon gives up |
| 10:21:04 | JdGordon | just gotta convert the rgbquad -> required format and im done.. i tihnk.. i hope |
| 10:21:45 | webguest08 | that time i changed the startupscreen to a pic i made myself and after that it crashed, when i hold play and started the player the startscreen came up but then nothing happend |
| 10:21:54 | webguest08 | but i got a brand new player from iriver:D |
| 10:22:18 | JdGordon | haha |
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| 10:24:44 | Zak1392 | hey |
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| 10:25:25 | linuxstb | B4gd3r: Identity crisis? |
| 10:25:35 | * | Bger greets everyone here with Mike Oldfield - To Be Free |
| 10:25:47 | B4gd3r | oh yes |
| 10:25:52 | B4gd3r | shaky network atm |
| 10:26:17 | JdGordon | linuxstb: whats the easiest way to differentiate whiich is the correct output format? is there an easier way than doing #if defined(PLAYER_NAME)? |
| 10:26:18 | B4gd3r | wlan |
| 10:27:24 | linuxstb | JdGordon: LCD_DEPTH is the main define you need. LCD_DEPTH==2 for h1x0 and LCD_DEPTH==16 for the h3x0 |
| 10:28:00 | JdGordon | k |
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| 10:30:11 | Zak1392 | somebody on MisticRiver said that rockbox on h300s will be able to play movie 25fps in the future. is it true? |
| 10:30:40 | Zak1392 | i doubt it really |
| 10:31:05 | ashridah | Zak1392: ahahhahahahahaha. |
| 10:31:18 | linuxstb | Zak1392: I haven't heard any rockbox developers claim that. |
| 10:31:23 | ashridah | it might be able to play it at 25fps. but it won't be displaying screens that fast :) |
| 10:31:25 | Zak1392 | me niether |
| 10:31:45 | JdGordon | :'( any1 else having problems with uclpack killing the make? |
| 10:31:58 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Yes - everyone using the devkit. |
| 10:32:04 | JdGordon | ok, good |
| 10:32:10 | JdGordon | is there a fix? |
| 10:32:13 | linuxstb | Just remove it from tools/Makefile |
| 10:32:30 | linuxstb | i.e. remove the reference in the TARGETS := line near the top of the makefile. |
| 10:32:30 | B4gd3r | I intend to make it built only on platforms that need it |
| 10:32:38 | B4gd3r | but I don't know when |
| 10:33:04 | linuxstb | I also read a forum message from Bluechip saying he was going to try and look at fixing the devkit. |
| 10:33:15 | mirak | Zak1392: the plugin video donne by Wett displays 70 fps. but he uses 7 frames to create a grayscale on H100. |
| 10:33:28 | JdGordon | ... compiling... |
| 10:33:39 | mirak | Zak1392: so that's 8 fps |
| 10:33:59 | mirak | Zak1392: 25fps seems possible with uncompressed video |
| 10:34:20 | JdGordon | at 90mhz? |
| 10:34:31 | linuxstb | With a slow LCD driver? |
| 10:34:56 | mirak | linuxstb: you have no hope, you are a lost soul man |
| 10:34:58 | mirak | :) |
| 10:35:18 | linuxstb | I don't own a h300, I have a color ipod :) |
| 10:35:34 | Zak1392 | ipods suck man |
| 10:35:39 | Zak1392 | :) |
| 10:35:46 | mirak | so don't be jealous or something ^^ |
| 10:36:51 | Zak1392 | h300s are waaaaaay better |
| 10:36:55 | mirak | linuxstb: that ipod is still a bit expensive for the features it have |
| 10:37:26 | mirak | if it had radio plus usbhost plus recording etcerera it would be nice |
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| 10:40:38 | linuxstb | mirak: It does have usb host. |
| 10:40:49 | mirak | ok |
| 10:41:23 | linuxstb | But I mainly bought it for the fun of porting Rockbox to it. |
| 10:41:30 | mirak | great |
| 10:41:44 | mirak | anyway I mostly bought H300 because it was supporting ogg |
| 10:42:15 | mirak | I was wondering if rockbox could be adaptet to dvd players |
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| 10:42:32 | mirak | or if this would have any meaning |
| 10:42:42 | mirak | there is probably to many devices |
| 10:42:51 | markun | ashridah: the trick with cvs was to use the tool cvsdo. You can then use 'cvsdo add [file]' and 'cvs diff -uN' to include the files. |
| 10:45:58 | ashridah | ah |
| 10:46:23 | ashridah | explains why i don't have it. no cvsutils installed |
| 10:46:26 | * | ashridah corrects |
| 10:47:17 | markun | works very nice |
| 10:48:55 | JdGordon | w000t.. copmiles with no errors :D |
| 10:49:00 | JdGordon | time for a test dummy |
| 10:52:01 | mirak | I am browsing the code, I was thinking it would have been nice since that's not C++ to have a kind of object notation for methods |
| 10:52:38 | mirak | with the name of the method starting by the name of .c file it is delcared |
| 10:52:41 | mirak | declared |
| 10:52:50 | mirak | where it is declared |
| 10:53:11 | mirak | I am not used to C anymore :-| |
| 10:53:42 | mirak | ok sorry |
| 10:53:45 | mirak | it's like that |
| 10:53:47 | mirak | lol |
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| 10:58:12 | JdGordon | alright... finally ready to test |
| 10:58:24 | JdGordon | drummroll... |
| 10:58:26 | mirak | that eclipse C plugin can't resolve all the includes |
| 10:59:08 | JdGordon | doh.. bloody test plugin didnt ocmpile |
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| 11:04:07 | JdGordon | bout fucking time... make install and then we r good to test :D |
| 11:04:37 | JdGordon | hehe crashed :D |
| 11:04:50 | JdGordon | pointer problems probably |
| 11:05:01 | Zak1392 | what are you trying to do? |
| 11:05:10 | JdGordon | load colour bmp's |
| 11:05:46 | Zak1392 | like for wps's? |
| 11:06:02 | JdGordon | ye |
| 11:06:19 | Zak1392 | good luck because it would be really cool :) |
| 11:06:25 | preglow | ooh, two shiny new feature packed iriver firmware upgrades |
| 11:06:40 | JdGordon | nothing really special in them |
| 11:06:52 | preglow | surprise |
| 11:07:27 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hi, i am just fixing several bugs in playback.c and i will change that get_metadata is responsible for the codec type detection |
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| 11:07:54 | Slasheri | linuxstb: You should probably change the metadata.c so that it forces the correct codec type |
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| 11:09:52 | linuxstb | Slasheri: That's good news. I'll try and look at get_metadata() this evening. |
| 11:10:23 | linuxstb | Are you planning on keeping the probe_file_format() function ? Or will we just use get_metadata() ? |
| 11:10:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh c'mon. You know you love that wma lyric feature and will use it often! |
| 11:12:04 | linuxstb | Anyone know what this h1x0 bugfix in iriver's firmware is about: "- got rid of noise related to buffer control during WAV recording" |
| 11:12:14 | linuxstb | Is that the "recording glitch" ? Or something else? |
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| 11:12:22 | Slasheri | linuxstb: yes, but that probe_file_format could be then used only from metadata.c itself.. So only get_metadata is needed in playback.c |
| 11:12:42 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Sounds good. |
| 11:12:59 | JdGordon | :'( stupid pointers |
| 11:16:35 | JdGordon | ok, once i figure out these damn pointers it should be done... |
| 11:16:46 | JdGordon | but im headin out, so ill fix it when i get back |
| 11:16:49 | JdGordon | cyaz later |
| 11:19:22 | Zak1392 | cya |
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| 12:32:59 | tucoz | preglow, I read that you are fond of vinyl. I suppose you have a soundsystem like this http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/11/ultimate.hifi/ :) |
| 12:33:49 | preglow | ahaha |
| 12:33:53 | preglow | not exactly |
| 12:35:49 | tucoz | Do you think a person that buy's something like that would here the difference between the iriver fw, and rockbox. hehe |
| 12:37:03 | tucoz | That person would probably not like to listen to anything as digital as an mp3. And not on a unit that fit's in your pocket. |
| 12:37:56 | preglow | and yeah, btw, i'd love it if someone did a freaking blind test soon!"¤ |
| 12:38:47 | * | ashridah notes that some of the ipods have shocking response curves |
| 12:38:53 | ashridah | i haven't seen any analysis of iriver's tho |
| 12:39:05 | ashridah | wouldn't be surprised if there's some cases of audiocide there too |
| 12:39:08 | tucoz | yes, I never use the iriver fw and is very satisfied with rockbox. So I am out of the question. |
| 12:39:17 | ashridah | although i definently prefer an iriver over an ipod |
| 12:39:32 | tucoz | audiocide, hehe |
| 12:39:35 | ashridah | iriver's firmware seems to add unnatural loudness to music |
| 12:39:50 | ashridah | sure, it's great since it ups the S/N ratio compared to the outside world |
| 12:40:02 | ashridah | meaning i can cut out a trainful of shouting teenagers |
| 12:40:10 | ashridah | but it makes the audio sound slightly unbalanced |
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| 12:42:10 | tucoz | Where I live, the koss porta pro's are very popular. I never understood the porta part of that name (except for size). It is impossible to use those outside, as they leak like, well, alot. |
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| 12:43:17 | tucoz | I see, a new iriver fw today. Who would have guessed that. Don't think I'll ever try that. |
| 12:44:48 | ashridah | apparently it added a new icon |
| 12:45:45 | Zak1392 | when should a patcher come out for it? |
| 12:45:56 | Zak1392 | any ideas? |
| 12:46:29 | ashridah | when linus gets time to look into updating mkboot/fwpatcher |
| 12:46:34 | * | ashridah points at the topic |
| 12:48:51 | preglow | i don't like the porta pros atall |
| 12:48:53 | preglow | at all, even |
| 12:48:58 | tucoz | me neither |
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| 12:49:15 | preglow | but then again, i use some bloody huge earphones |
| 12:50:03 | tucoz | What do you use then? |
| 12:50:47 | preglow | couple of denon somethings i bought a bunch of years ago |
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| 12:51:29 | markun | I do like my porta pros |
| 12:51:49 | markun | But that's also because I don't have anything better |
| 12:52:16 | tucoz | markun, don't you think they are leaking a bit too much to be usable as portable headphones? |
| 12:52:43 | markun | I use them at work. It's nice to listen to music and still being able to listen to my coleagues |
| 12:53:53 | markun | But I can't use them when riding my bike. |
| 12:54:59 | markun | I bought a pair of koss the plug, but would like to replace them with something better (without spending a fortune) |
| 12:55:12 | preglow | i used to have set that leaked like hell as well |
| 12:55:16 | preglow | didn't work out in the long run |
| 12:56:15 | markun | Does anyone have a pair of Sharp MD33/Creative EP630 ? |
| 12:56:24 | tucoz | No, my sennheisers at home leak like hell. But, for portable use I need something that is at least blocking out a few decibels of the outside world. |
| 12:56:47 | ashridah | i still use the original pair i got from my iriver |
| 12:57:06 | ashridah | they're like a year and 3/4th's old, but they're still decent. one ticks at high volume tho now, i might need to replace them soon :( |
| 12:57:10 | markun | I don't like the sound of the originals a lot |
| 12:57:47 | ashridah | i've never really bothered to compare them, although i've considered replacing them with some sennheiser's or something |
| 12:58:36 | Zagor | markun: try Sony EX-71 |
| 12:58:54 | tucoz | are those of the really-in-the-ear type? |
| 12:58:59 | Zagor | yes |
| 12:59:16 | preglow | never tried a plug i liked |
| 12:59:16 | markun | I've also thought about those, but in most reviews the MD33 came out better than the EX71 |
| 12:59:22 | tucoz | ah, I would like to try something like that. |
| 12:59:22 | preglow | but i've never tried the in-ear type |
| 12:59:22 | * | ashridah shudders |
| 12:59:26 | ashridah | i've never liked sony earphones |
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| 13:02:01 | Zagor | markun: headphone reviews are mostly useless in my experience. test-listen all options for yourself instead and choose the one you like best. |
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| 13:03:07 | markun | Zagor: yeah, but who would lend me a pair of in-ear phones to try out? I would never lend mine out |
| 13:04:14 | preglow | oh, i'm sure the shop's got a testing pair ;) |
| 13:04:37 | markun | Zagor: I received the Gigabeat player btw |
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| 13:04:48 | markun | yuck ;) |
| 13:04:48 | tucoz | Zagor, are the ex-71's really that cheap? 300sek? |
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| 13:05:05 | Zagor | if you're that squeamish, buy both and sell the ones you don't like... |
| 13:05:13 | Zagor | markun: good |
| 13:05:35 | Zagor | tucoz: yes |
| 13:06:18 | tucoz | goodie. |
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| 13:08:14 | ghode|afk | btw i can recommend the ex71s had them for about a year now, and they have out lasted 2 pairs of shure e2cs and a pair of koss headphones |
| 13:09:59 | tucoz | ghode|afk, sounds good. |
| 13:10:31 | tucoz | I think I'll buy a pair later on. |
| 13:13:03 | tucoz | hehe, I don't think the Koss UR5 are any good. 23nok (2.9euro). |
| 13:13:25 | ghode|afk | at that price, doubtful |
| 13:13:56 | tucoz | hehe |
| 13:13:57 | ghode|afk | tucoz: which senns do you use at home? |
| 13:14:18 | tucoz | I am not sure. I think they are called hd-490 or something |
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| 13:14:53 | tucoz | nah, those seem to be a closed construction |
| 13:14:56 | tucoz | Mine are open |
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| 13:15:36 | tucoz | hrm, I think it is these http://www.soundscapeav.com/senn/hd-490.jpg |
| 13:16:55 | ashridah | i've got the hd-495's here for my home use |
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| 13:17:17 | ashridah | i like them, althoughthey don't stay on easily if you move your head too much. very comfortable fit, doesn't press on the ears, which is nice since i tend to wear them a lot |
| 13:17:32 | cannard | will there be rockbox for rocbox? |
| 13:17:52 | cannard | seems only the k is holding back from total portation |
| 13:18:00 | tucoz | :) |
| 13:18:39 | cannard | http://www.roc-digital.com/main.html |
| 13:18:42 | cannard | its tha roc! |
| 13:19:27 | tucoz | ashridah, yes. Mine are very comfortable as well. Still, they have had a few rendevouz's with the floor :) |
| 13:21:33 | tucoz | Is there a index page of all the pages in the wiki? |
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| 13:24:07 | tucoz | nevermind, I found the page I was looking for |
| 13:25:12 | linuxstb | Nice excuse from iriver about missing features in their new h100 firmware: "Certain functions that were originally intended (Korean menus, OGG Lyric support, etc.), we endeavoured to include, but unfortunately we could not, due to hardware limitations. We ask for your understanding." |
| 13:25:25 | Zagor | haha |
| 13:25:36 | ashridah | 'hardware' limitations |
| 13:25:53 | tucoz | nice one :) |
| 13:26:09 | ashridah | wait, there's new H100 firmware as well? |
| 13:26:12 | tucoz | cannard, look here for other Rockboxes http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/OtherRockbox |
| 13:26:24 | linuxstb | At least they haven't blamed the hardware for lack of gapless. |
| 13:27:00 | cannard | damn, its just too hard to be original anymore |
| 13:27:24 | ashridah | linuxstb: iirc, they blamed their architecture for that |
| 13:27:27 | ashridah | (software i mean) |
| 13:27:58 | cannard | wow i didnt see the h100 update till just then |
| 13:28:08 | linuxstb | ashridah: Obviously. But who chose the architecture? |
| 13:28:10 | tucoz | cannard, do you have a rocbox? |
| 13:28:26 | cannard | haha nope, just a h300 |
| 13:28:33 | cannard | but i was trying to be funny, and i failed |
| 13:28:36 | cannard | miserably |
| 13:28:38 | cannard | :p |
| 13:29:05 | ashridah | what did they add in the new H100 firmware? |
| 13:29:33 | linuxstb | WMA lyrics support :) |
| 13:29:56 | tucoz | w00t. Must...install...new firmware |
| 13:30:02 | ashridah | ick |
| 13:30:04 | cannard | got rid of noise related to buffer control during WAV recording, is that the 30 second beep thing? |
| 13:30:43 | tucoz | I think I only have one wma, and no lyrics as far as I know. |
| 13:31:06 | cannard | do people use the lyrics function at all? |
| 13:31:44 | tucoz | not me. Only in amarok |
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| 13:32:24 | tucoz | lunch. |
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| 13:46:55 | preglow | does _anyone_ use lyrics support? |
| 13:48:45 | cannard | im about to start |
| 13:49:22 | preglow | i tend to ignore lyrics completely |
| 13:51:28 | cannard | me too, but i wanna see how it works |
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| 13:52:34 | preglow | ahh, new world in the morning spinning on the turntable and a nice cup of tea, it doesn't get any better |
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| 13:53:48 | cannard | naked ladies serving you tea? |
| 13:54:41 | preglow | they'd be distracting me from the tea! |
| 13:54:44 | ashridah | why would i want tea when i can see naked ladies? |
| 13:56:09 | preglow | you can see them right now |
| 13:56:09 | preglow | hah |
| 13:56:41 | preglow | WHILE having tea |
| 13:56:53 | preglow | wonders of the internet |
| 13:58:00 | cannard | its not quite the same |
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| 14:00:01 | ashridah | i'm not sure i agree |
| 14:00:23 | ashridah | real ladies can't be shaded when the SO comes by |
| 14:00:34 | Jungti1234 | Is no Rockbox ape support plan? |
| 14:00:53 | preglow | Jungti1234: eh? |
| 14:01:24 | Jungti1234 | Is no Rockbox plan to support ape? |
| 14:01:36 | preglow | ahh, the lossless format? |
| 14:02:05 | preglow | we'll see, it depends on the ape people. it's a licensing issue |
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| 14:03:01 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 14:03:03 | Jungti1234 | thanks |
| 14:03:28 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data10/2005/12/1/59/%BB%E7%C1%F824.jpg |
| 14:04:02 | ashridah | wtf. is that thing wet? |
| 14:05:28 | Jungti1234 | nono haha |
| 14:05:39 | Jungti1234 | It is background screen. |
| 14:05:43 | Jungti1234 | wallpaper |
| 14:05:47 | preglow | haha |
| 14:05:49 | cannard | thats what happens if you dont have the naked ladies serving... |
| 14:06:09 | Jungti1234 | -_-; |
| 14:06:14 | ashridah | okay |
| 14:06:17 | Jungti1234 | naked ladies? |
| 14:06:44 | cannard | hmm its just not my night |
| 14:06:46 | preglow | nevermind, you wont see them here |
| 14:07:05 | linuxstb | preglow: Have you looked at ape? Everything I've read suggests it needs a powerful CPU to decode. |
| 14:07:26 | preglow | linuxstb: it uses a neural network, which might become pretty heavy |
| 14:07:30 | preglow | but then again, might also be emac fooc |
| 14:07:32 | preglow | food <- |
| 14:07:41 | cannard | a learning computer |
| 14:07:56 | ashridah | a neural network?! |
| 14:07:57 | ashridah | wtf |
| 14:07:58 | preglow | don't know how well it works |
| 14:08:00 | ashridah | for a codec? |
| 14:08:10 | preglow | i still think wavpack is the best performer of the open source codecs |
| 14:08:14 | ashridah | that seems extreme |
| 14:08:39 | preglow | but anyway, it doesn't, a friend of mine is trying to make them switch to lgpl now |
| 14:08:42 | preglow | so we'll see |
| 14:08:51 | preglow | it doesn't _matter_, arghgh |
| 14:09:02 | ashridah | ah well. i've got a plane to catch, so i'm hitting the sack |
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| 14:09:12 | preglow | personally i'm not very interested in ape |
| 14:09:17 | preglow | but of course, if something needs optimising... |
| 14:09:38 | Jungti1234 | When does Linus work new bootloader? |
| 14:09:48 | preglow | who knows, ask him |
| 14:10:13 | ghode|afk | i think it would be better not to ;p |
| 14:10:23 | preglow | sure, it wont come any sooner anyway |
| 14:10:28 | Jungti1234 | He looks like busy. |
| 14:10:40 | Jungti1234 | -> He seems to be busy. |
| 14:10:47 | preglow | yes, he's not here |
| 14:10:55 | ghode|afk | hmm that cowan pmp looks pretty nice |
| 14:11:02 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 14:11:16 | Jungti1234 | It's Cowon A2. |
| 14:11:33 | Jungti1234 | Many people have. |
| 14:11:53 | ghode|afk | i think it would be hard to get here in europe :/ |
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| 14:12:00 | Jungti1234 | My friend has it, too. |
| 14:12:03 | ghode|afk | it puts the h300 screen to shame though |
| 14:12:17 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
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| 14:13:13 | JdGordon | hey all.. did i miss anything interesting? |
| 14:15:23 | Jungti1234 | maybe. |
| 14:17:39 | Jungti1234 | Do you know 'DMB'? |
| 14:17:48 | JdGordon | dmb? |
| 14:17:55 | cannard | tv? |
| 14:18:00 | Jungti1234 | Yes |
| 14:18:11 | Jungti1234 | It's Mobile TV. |
| 14:18:41 | Jungti1234 | First broadcasting was begun in the South Korea today. |
| 14:19:02 | JdGordon | linuxstb: it almost works :D i got a black screen with a few coloured dots... |
| 14:19:08 | Jungti1234 | Cowon A2 supports DMB. |
| 14:19:10 | JdGordon | better than crashing :D but tnot quite done |
| 14:19:41 | preglow | just what we need, more tv |
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| 14:20:09 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 14:20:50 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 14:21:02 | Jungti1234 | Is time to sleep now. |
| 14:21:17 | Jungti1234 | good night all |
| 14:21:25 | preglow | night |
| 14:21:25 | cannard | anyongii |
| 14:21:30 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 14:21:37 | Jungti1234 | jaljayo |
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| 15:41:45 | mirak | why is there a separation betwen Apps and Firmware folder in source tree ?* |
| 15:43:25 | Bger | because some of the code is considered to be firmware level (kernel), the other - application |
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| 15:46:58 | mirak | id3 is in the kernel ? |
| 15:47:01 | mirak | ?? |
| 15:47:04 | mirak | ^^ |
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| 15:51:35 | linuxstb | mirak: That made more sense on the Archos devices where mp3 playback is effectively done in the firmware, but I'm sure that will be moved to apps/ at some point - probably if/when the Archos and iriver playback engines are merged. |
| 15:52:07 | mirak | ok |
| 15:52:35 | Bger | i think the correct word is "when"... |
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| 15:53:40 | linuxstb | It's "if" until the time someone says they are going to do it, and then it changes to "when"... |
| 15:54:11 | linuxstb | The problem is that it needs to be done by someone who knows both playback engines intimately. |
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| 15:57:08 | mirak | yepe eclipse crashed my gnome |
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| 15:59:23 | mirak | ok anjuta sucks too |
| 15:59:29 | mirak | there is really nothing left |
| 15:59:31 | mirak | lol |
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| 16:00:21 | chopped_pork | vim? |
| 16:02:03 | mirak | I hate vi or vim whatever |
| 16:02:47 | chopped_pork | emacs? |
| 16:03:06 | linuxstb | If you want something simple, try jedit |
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| 16:03:23 | mirak | I want something that can link to function references |
| 16:03:33 | mirak | and show types in a pop up |
| 16:03:36 | mirak | :) |
| 16:04:16 | chopped_pork | sheesh |
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| 16:12:52 | mirak | ok doxygen produces a satisfying output |
| 16:12:58 | mirak | browsable etecetera |
| 16:14:20 | preglow | ok, so the merge really needs to be done by a hybrid of slasheri and one of the core coders? |
| 16:14:24 | preglow | let the gene splicing commence |
| 16:17:09 | linuxstb | preglow: hehe. |
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| 16:21:10 | slashiconn | You called for me |
| 16:21:14 | slashiconn | ;) |
| 16:21:15 | preglow | hahah |
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| 16:21:40 | ep0ch| | :D lol |
| 16:22:03 | lostlogicx | preglow: want to look over some code (hasn't been run tested at all yet) and tell me what you think of it in theory? |
| 16:22:19 | preglow | sure |
| 16:22:27 | preglow | haven't got too much time, but can for a little moment |
| 16:22:41 | lostlogicx | ok, will post a patch in 60s |
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| 16:23:57 | Mindship-02 | Is there any news about moving the splash from the source to a file? |
| 16:24:04 | Mindship-02 | is it still gonna happen? |
| 16:24:14 | Mindship-02 | I want my own start-up screen! |
| 16:24:59 | preglow | it's doable as it is |
| 16:25:04 | preglow | if you just put in some effort |
| 16:25:14 | preglow | the splash will almost certainly stay in the source |
| 16:25:27 | ep0ch| | what splash screen? ;) |
| 16:25:30 | preglow | the more files we depend upon having to load when starting up, the longer the boot time will be |
| 16:25:35 | lostlogicx | preglow: http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/profile.c and profile.h |
| 16:25:49 | Mindship-02 | preglow: why? The other day someone said to be moving it to a file one day... |
| 16:26:10 | mirak | is there a way to run only the preprocessor to have the sources for only one target ? |
| 16:26:30 | Mindship-02 | preglow: I do not mean as a file on the device, but as a file in the source-tree |
| 16:27:04 | lostlogicx | preglow: that's all the support code for profiling, in theory all a dev would have to do woudl be turn on -finstrument-functions in their code, and stick calls to profstart and profstop around the time to be executed _on the same thread_ as the code to be executed. |
| 16:27:05 | preglow | Mindship-02: oh, like that |
| 16:27:44 | lostlogicx | preglow: oh, also two lines in thread.c to call the thread switching code in profile.c |
| 16:28:40 | Mindship-02 | preglow: It would make replacing it quite a bit easier |
| 16:29:32 | preglow | mirak: add -E to gcc command line |
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| 16:30:19 | mirak | preglow: hem I am not sure what will happen, it will put files where ? |
| 16:30:32 | preglow | it does as before |
| 16:30:41 | preglow | you probably get xxxxx.o, but this time containing source |
| 16:30:48 | mirak | ok thanks |
| 16:31:39 | preglow | lostlogicx: i didn't get the last part of your sentence there, on how to activate it |
| 16:32:51 | Mindship-02 | preglow: but, you said: "It is doable". How? |
| 16:33:19 | preglow | Mindship-02: nevermind me, the solution the other people have figured out will work just fine as long as you can compile rockbox yourself |
| 16:34:08 | lostlogicx | preglow: I switched from -pg to -finstrument-functions for how to activate it, so any code compiled with -finstrument-functions and running on the same thread as the thread where profstart is called will be profileed |
| 16:34:14 | Mindship-02 | well, I know of no solution. I thought of one myself, suggested it, and someone told me he would implement it when he felt like it. That was about a week ago |
| 16:35:42 | preglow | lostlogicx: ok, what's the difference between -pg and -finstrument-functions? |
| 16:37:11 | linuxstb | Mindship-02: I think you're referring to my suggestion, which was to store the bitmap in the source as a .bmp file (instead of as a .c file as it is currently). The Rockbox build system would then convert the ,bmp file to .c when Rockbox is being compiled. |
| 16:37:17 | lostlogicx | preglow: -pg turns on the whole profiling arch as designed for 'large systems' meaning it depends on the kernel to maintain the tic counts on a per-PC basis, -finstrument-functions _only_ adds __cyg_profile_func_enter and _cyg_profile_func_exit calls to the functions |
| 16:37:30 | linuxstb | This is not the same as storing the .bmp file on your player and Rockbox loading it at run-time. |
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| 16:37:32 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: yes! |
| 16:37:44 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: I know! |
| 16:38:31 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: Pardon me if I sounded rude in anyway, I'm just eager to compile my own rockbox. With my own logo! |
| 16:38:31 | lostlogicx | I'm getting compiler warning when calling fdprintf() with unsigned long var args why?? |
| 16:40:55 | mirak | preglow: it works for somefile but at some point it fails ( -E ) |
| 16:41:11 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: any idea when this can be done by someone like me (the substituting of the splash)? |
| 16:41:13 | mirak | preglow: I added -E in the makefile created by configure |
| 16:43:49 | Mindship-02 | is it perhaps easier to make a `substitute some boot-time stuff like the splash` program (that can easily do all the checking of formats!) |
| 16:44:24 | Mindship-02 | this program should ofcourse result in some sort of a source patch |
| 16:44:31 | preglow | mirak: of course it fails, you don't compile properly |
| 16:45:00 | preglow | lostlogicx: ok, goodie |
| 16:45:04 | mirak | preglow: yes I realised that, I am not sure how to have a full preprocessing nor if it's possible at all |
| 16:45:07 | linuxstb | Mindship-02: Which player do you have? |
| 16:45:13 | Mindship-02 | iRiver 140 |
| 16:45:28 | preglow | mirak: you get all sources processed up until the makefile tries to link something |
| 16:45:54 | linuxstb | Mindship-02: Are you able to compile Rockbox yourself? |
| 16:46:10 | mirak | preglow: ok I will go with preprocessor ... |
| 16:46:13 | mirak | stuffs |
| 16:47:30 | mirak | I got unreconised option as: unrecognized option `-m5200' |
| 16:47:42 | mirak | I have built the compiler though |
| 16:48:25 | mirak | I suck |
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| 16:51:33 | preglow | lostlogicx: well, i can't see anything wrong with it, at least |
| 16:51:41 | preglow | lostlogicx: have no time to try it, unfortunately |
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| 16:51:54 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: probably (I have compiled a few kernels before and the documentation of rockbox is okay) |
| 16:55:31 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: why? |
| 16:57:04 | preglow | _EXCELLENT_!!! |
| 16:57:19 | preglow | the bloody same day i'm due for a long train trip, my headphones break |
| 16:57:25 | ep0ch| | arghh |
| 16:57:53 | linuxstb | Mindship-02: Even with my proposed change, you will need to compile Rockbox yourself. And if you can compile Rockbox, it's relatively easy to change the bitmaps yourself today. |
| 16:57:55 | lostlogicx | preglow: I haven't even tried it yet, was just looking for an initial opinion, and for any thoughts about things I need to change other than making it work before submitting a patch. |
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| 17:00:30 | mirak | hey, look at that, it's a rockbox doc generated with doxygen. http://mirak.homelinux.net/~karim/public/rockdoxy2/html/dir_000000.html |
| 17:01:01 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: I think I can oversee the process of doing so, but regarding the time it would take me to do one or the other, and, too, moving the splash to a file will be a structural time-saver for everyone who ever wants to change his splash... |
| 17:01:14 | preglow | eight hours of train with earplugs |
| 17:01:18 | preglow | i'm contemplating suicide |
| 17:01:56 | mirak | I don't have a fast adsl line, it might be very slow if you all jump on it |
| 17:02:22 | mirak | I was thinking it would be nice to have that doc on the rockbox website |
| 17:02:28 | mirak | or something similar to that |
| 17:02:46 | mirak | of course it's in french here but it could be generated in what language you want |
| 17:04:30 | linuxstb | Mindship-02: Assuming you can use a text editor, and can type in one command at the command-line, it will take you about 2 minutes to change the .c file containing the bitmap. I would be happy to talk you through it. |
| 17:05:20 | * | Mindship-02 hands out 30 credits to linuxstb for implying he would help |
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| 17:08:14 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: I'm doing my exams next week. When I start fiddling with Rockbox now that would mean I am going to focus on all that has to do with that. I will ask you someday later on next week if you have time (ofcourse, I will try to impress you by doing it myself first!) |
| 17:08:37 | preglow | Mindship-02: it is a two minute job |
| 17:09:05 | Mindship-02 | preglow: but compiling, installing, configuring, listening, reading, contributing isn't! |
| 17:09:06 | preglow | you convert a bitmap to source, paste the source into a file, compile, bam, finished |
| 17:10:29 | linuxstb | Mindship-02: The point I'm making is that even with the change I'm talking about, you will still need to set up a development environment, download the source and compile Rockbox yourself. |
| 17:10:50 | Mindship-02 | linuxstb: I knwo |
| 17:10:54 | Mindship-02 | s/knwo/know |
| 17:13:05 | | Join CyberD [0] (n=liranvak@85-250-216-248.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 17:13:27 | CyberD | hi |
| 17:13:53 | lostlogicx | does the %X conversion in rockbox not support longs? |
| 17:14:01 | lostlogicx | (fdprintf) |
| 17:14:05 | CyberD | why there is no daily uptade? |
| 17:15:35 | markun | CyberD: what are you talking about? |
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| 17:18:46 | wubbla | anyone is able to compile the latest CVS source with the latest rockbox-devkit? |
| 17:19:52 | mirak | anyone is browsing the doc ? |
| 17:20:05 | linuxstb | lostlogicx: Looking at the source (firmware/common/sprintf.c), it looks like you need to use %lx |
| 17:20:12 | wubbla | /lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/include/limits.h:122:75: limits.h: No such file or directory |
| 17:20:35 | linuxstb | wubbla: Yes, that's a known problem with the devkit |
| 17:20:49 | wubbla | linuxstb: any ideas how to fix that? |
| 17:20:57 | wubbla | linuxstb: or where to get the missing file? |
| 17:20:57 | linuxstb | Quick fix: Edit tools/Makefile and remove the word "uclpack" from the TARGETS := line near the top. |
| 17:21:15 | wubbla | linuxstb: thanks! |
| 17:21:45 | preglow | lostlogicx: longs? 32 bit longs? |
| 17:23:38 | lostlogicx | preglow: size_t |
| 17:24:18 | preglow | lostlogicx: %d will deal with size_t for our current platforms |
| 17:24:39 | lostlogicx | prefer to write as hex |
| 17:24:48 | preglow | %x, then |
| 17:24:55 | lostlogicx | %08lX will do me :) |
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| 17:25:36 | lostlogicx | and now the profiling code compile on -Werror, onward to testing and beyond! |
| 17:26:26 | perplexity | Good luck lostlogic :) |
| 17:27:03 | lostlogicx | perplexity: hey :) thanks. |
| 17:28:19 | perplexity | I found 2 -q 6 oggs today that skip on the existing codec while traversing some difficult audio.. optimisation is required :) |
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| 17:29:41 | lostlogicx | perplexity: haha, hopefully we'll be able to profile today, but I also have some time reserved this weekend to work on it |
| 17:29:51 | lostlogicx | perplexity: I'll send you a patch with my code once it runs. |
| 17:31:02 | perplexity | I'm taking a completely different tack at the moment.. so we will see what happens.. (it is my weekend now, and instead of booze and birds on my thursday night I'm rockboxing.. how sad) |
| 17:31:29 | perplexity | I'm interested in looking at it, but have moved away from on-the-device profiling myself |
| 17:31:52 | lostlogicx | where would I start and stop the profile if I wanted to profile the codec thread from audio play to audio stop? |
| 17:31:55 | lostlogicx | perplexity: what are you working on? |
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| 17:33:17 | perplexity | I'm building a minimal support environment around the codec to allow it to run as a linux app, statically compiling it against uclibc and then running it on a linux userspace m68k emulator.. I'm halfway there.. |
| 17:33:49 | lostlogicx | as preglow pointed out profiling on a different arch may or may not give correct results. |
| 17:34:45 | perplexity | Ahh.. but it's an emulated coldfire.. therefore the only thing I'm missing is memory wait states and cache fetches.. if I can use more cycle efficient instructions, less of them and other basic optimisations it does not matter where I run it.. we still win.. |
| 17:35:08 | lostlogicx | is it an emulated coldfire, or is it just compiled for the host system? I don't know how the sim works |
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| 17:35:39 | perplexity | It's profiling and testing the *exact* same binary code that will be running on the target unit |
| 17:36:07 | Mongey| | hi i was just wondering if rockbox will still work with 1.29k for the h300 |
| 17:36:49 | lostlogicx | Mongey|: just the bootloader will need testing on it, and fwpatcher will need updating with new checksums |
| 17:37:02 | Mongey| | thanks |
| 17:37:38 | perplexity | No, it's actually an emulated coldfire.. so it's correct instruction for instruction.. the actual binary is compiled using m68k-elf-gcc just the same as rockbox, and therefore the resulting binary and *.s asm code is identical |
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| 17:43:39 | lostlogicx | perplexity: gotcha. |
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| 17:45:50 | preglow | perplexity: hacking in correct wait states for the different memory ranges is probably not too hard |
| 17:46:11 | preglow | perplexity: but i don't think it'll have the emac instructions, though, so you might still have some work ahead of you |
| 17:47:09 | lostlogicx | preglow: do you know where the correct place to start and stop profiling would be for the codec thread off hand? |
| 17:50:55 | perplexity | Well, this simpulator is supposed to be an accurate simulation of the coldfire.. but it's dead easy to modify to add instructions/registers in if required.. I have already spent enough time not to give up easily :) |
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| 18:06:37 | mirak | hem there is a 1.29k firmware for H300 ? |
| 18:11:17 | Febs | Yes. |
| 18:11:18 | mirak | ok it's new |
| 18:12:02 | Febs | It came out yesterday/this morning (depending on your time zone). |
| 18:13:57 | mirak | ok I have read the changelog, I will not even bother to flash |
| 18:14:43 | Febs | I was underwhelmed as well. |
| 18:15:01 | mirak | the only thing of interst is : - Option for 24h clock instead of AM or PM |
| 18:15:04 | mirak | lol |
| 18:15:12 | * | Febs wonders how iriver can implement MP3 recording but not .wav recording. |
| 18:15:19 | preglow | drunk |
| 18:15:33 | mirak | Febs: yes that's a major disapointement |
| 18:15:48 | ep0ch| | hmm there is wav recording on ihp-120 iirc |
| 18:15:58 | preglow | you people _still_ care about the iriver firmware? :P |
| 18:16:12 | Febs | Not really. |
| 18:16:16 | mirak | Febs: in fact it seems there is now video mode that appear in the menu |
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| 18:16:52 | mirak | I seen on a picture of an H300 on an onlineshop that was displaying a video icon in the menu you can have with record button |
| 18:17:00 | mirak | it was some months ago |
| 18:17:12 | mirak | weird |
| 18:17:17 | * | Febs hasn't ever played a video on his H300. |
| 18:17:43 | mirak | you miss something great ^^ |
| 18:17:45 | mirak | ;) |
| 18:18:05 | Febs | I watch movies on my laptop while traveling, and if I have a need for watch a really tiny choppy video, I'll use my Treo, which has a 320x320 screen. |
| 18:18:07 | mirak | No gapless playback or OTF playlists |
| 18:18:35 | mirak | I used it sometime in the pressing |
| 18:18:40 | mirak | or in metro |
| 18:18:50 | mirak | where you really can't use a laptop |
| 18:19:00 | mirak | I don't have one anyway |
| 18:19:00 | Febs | Anyway, preglow, I was just marveling at the fact that iriver can implement .mp3 recording, but not .wav recording, when from everything I understand, .wav recording should be much easier. |
| 18:19:24 | mirak | Febs: it shold be also much easier than waste time on video |
| 18:19:52 | Febs | I think that the last thing I used the iriver firmware for on my H340 was to flash the RB bootloader. |
| 18:19:56 | linuxstb | Does any current iriver device support WAV recording? |
| 18:20:13 | mirak | H100 |
| 18:20:19 | linuxstb | _current_ |
| 18:20:19 | mirak | with the new firmware |
| 18:22:15 | _FireFly_ | h120(1.65 eu) can record to wav at least there is an option for this |
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| 18:22:58 | Febs | H100 has always supported .wav recording at least since fw 1.40. I don't think any current model has .wav recording. |
| 18:23:32 | linuxstb | Febs: OK, thanks. I knew the h1x0 can, I was curious about their current models. |
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| 18:25:51 | ep0ch| | what? iriver have current models? i thought they were all extinct! I wish they would bring out something new that doesnt involve being a video player. |
| 18:26:21 | Febs | iriver's business plan is a mystery to me. Had they continued to develop the H100 series, they probably could have cornered the recording market and killed the minidisc altogether. |
| 18:26:57 | Febs | Instead, they decided to challenge the iPod on its own turf. |
| 18:27:05 | Febs | Not smart, IMO. |
| 18:27:35 | ep0ch| | yeah very odd |
| 18:28:20 | lostlogicx | Hmm, getting linking errors on __cyg_profile_func_enter which is clearly defined in profile.h which is in firmware/export |
| 18:31:04 | mirak | hem does rockbox have a userspace for applications or is it all at the same level ? |
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| 18:44:36 | _FireFly_ | mirak: afaik all code in the apps folder can be shown as "userspace" |
| 18:45:21 | mirak | _FireFly_: I have not read all the code an I am far from it, but is there a user interface somewhere ? |
| 18:45:33 | mirak | with system calls that can be used by applications |
| 18:46:53 | _FireFly_ | what type of application do you mean mirak ?? |
| 18:47:12 | mirak | things that are not kernel |
| 18:47:20 | mirak | what is in Apps I guess |
| 18:47:43 | mirak | by interface I mean the list of system calls |
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| 18:48:14 | mirak | don't know if I am understood |
| 18:48:40 | _FireFly_ | for plugins it is the plugin_api struct |
| 18:48:51 | mirak | k |
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| 18:50:48 | Lear | is preglow around? |
| 18:55:29 | preglow | yeah |
| 18:57:21 | Lear | Typical, just found the answer to my question... :) |
| 18:57:48 | preglow | what was it? |
| 18:58:07 | Lear | Didn't see where frame_skip was being cleared in mpa.c... |
| 18:58:31 | wubbla | hmm |
| 18:58:39 | wubbla | i had an idea regarding WPS... |
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| 18:58:56 | wubbla | right now one have to specify absolute x/y coordinates |
| 18:59:16 | wubbla | why not making an option to make these coordinates relative |
| 18:59:25 | wubbla | ? |
| 18:59:29 | _FireFly_ | for what ?? |
| 18:59:53 | preglow | relative to what? |
| 18:59:57 | wubbla | _FireFly_: to make a H100 WPS automatically fit onto an H300 screen |
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| 19:00:07 | preglow | wubbla: that will very seldom look pretty |
| 19:00:20 | preglow | it's a decent idea, i just don't know how it'll look on screens as small as ours |
| 19:00:30 | preglow | but is worth a shot, i guess, shouldn't be much work |
| 19:00:43 | wubbla | e.g. right now it looks like this: %x|n|filename|x|y| |
| 19:01:20 | preglow | Lear: looking into gapless problem? |
| 19:01:33 | Lear | preglow: hm... maybe that removal of the "framelength == 0" check explains the claimed reduction of gapless playback? I see why you removed it, but perhaps a replacement is needed... |
| 19:01:56 | wubbla | x/y specifies the space between the left/top side of the screen and the point |
| 19:02:02 | wubbla | right? |
| 19:02:22 | _FireFly_ | yepp 0/0 is the upper left corner |
| 19:03:01 | wubbla | what if we introduced a way to make these coordinates dependent from the right/bottom side of the screen? |
| 19:03:11 | _FireFly_ | why |
| 19:03:18 | preglow | Lear: perhaps, feel free to experiment, i wont have time for a coupleo f days |
| 19:03:35 | Lear | a simple way would be to allow negative coordinates... |
| 19:03:38 | wubbla | e.g. when the coordinates look like this: -10,-5 |
| 19:03:41 | wubbla | exactly |
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| 19:04:12 | preglow | that's not exactly relative |
| 19:04:18 | preglow | relative would be having floating point coordinates |
| 19:04:20 | wubbla | preglow: yeah, i know |
| 19:04:22 | wubbla | ;-) |
| 19:04:22 | preglow | ala 0.5 == middle of the screen |
| 19:04:31 | preglow | that shouldn't be too hard either |
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| 19:05:18 | wubbla | preglow: but it would be harder for users to create their WPS's... |
| 19:05:21 | _FireFly_ | preglow: or the coords define a position from the last position or an offset |
| 19:05:35 | preglow | _FireFly_: that would be position relative, not size relative |
| 19:06:02 | wubbla | hehe... why not implementing a CSS parser ;-) |
| 19:06:19 | preglow | wubbla: sure, but wps created with your method will pretty much just lead to huge white middle areas on big displays |
| 19:06:28 | preglow | and all the edges crowded with stuff |
| 19:07:00 | preglow | but sure, the negative coordinate approach will be very simple to fix |
| 19:07:27 | wubbla | preglow: i thought that too... |
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| 19:07:45 | preglow | if (coord < 0) coord = width/height - coord; |
| 19:07:54 | _FireFly_ | we could append a recommented screen-size into the wps-code and if the screen-size is bigger then size for which the wps was created the center it on screen |
| 19:07:58 | wubbla | preglow: exactly |
| 19:08:09 | preglow | + coord, even |
| 19:08:32 | _FireFly_ | with an x/y-offset |
| 19:08:51 | wubbla | there should be options to make a coordinate relative to the left/top corner, the center of the screen and the bottom/right corner... |
| 19:08:56 | preglow | but bah, i need to continue packing |
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| 19:16:00 | mirak | his the Debug Folder of anyuse or can it be deleted ? |
| 19:16:18 | _FireFly_ | debug folder ?? |
| 19:16:26 | mirak | in CVSROOT |
| 19:16:37 | mirak | I don't remember if it was there already |
| 19:16:44 | mirak | or if I built it |
| 19:16:58 | _FireFly_ | which CVSROOT ?? |
| 19:17:13 | mirak | rockbox |
| 19:18:16 | _FireFly_ | there is no debug folder in my local cvs-snapshot |
| 19:18:27 | mirak | ok |
| 19:18:32 | mirak | I just want to generate a doc |
| 19:22:02 | wubbla | hmm...the rockbox GUI is generally able to support color, right? |
| 19:22:48 | wubbla | e.g. it is possible to change (by editing the source code) the default background color, right? |
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| 19:27:11 | linuxstb | wubbla: Yes, you can change LCD_DEFAULT_FG and LCD_DEFAULT_BG in firmware/export/lcd.h |
| 19:27:54 | linuxstb | But better would be to propose (and implement) a system to allow the user to customise the Rockbox colour-scheme. |
| 19:28:24 | wubbla | linuxstb: i thought to look at this... |
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| 19:29:19 | wubbla | linuxstb: but the code-base is really big and everything but clearly arranged ;-) |
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| 19:31:34 | wubbla | linuxstb: my goal is to extend the WPS code to support color... |
| 19:31:37 | KandieKane | Is there a version history or someting that outlines the features/fixes implemented in each rockbox release? (H100 series) |
| 19:31:56 | Slasheri | Hmm, i can soon commit my playback patch which fixes four bugs in the iriver playback :) |
| 19:32:05 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 19:32:13 | linuxstb | KandieKane: http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 19:32:16 | wubbla | Slasheri: h3xx related? :-) |
| 19:32:24 | Slasheri | wubbla: yep, that too |
| 19:32:36 | wubbla | Slasheri: nice ;-) |
| 19:32:43 | linuxstb | KandieKane: It's not exactly a version history, it's a list of all the CVS commits since the last official release (Rockbox 2.5 for the Archos devices). |
| 19:32:48 | _FireFly_ | many code of the h1xx serie is shared with h3xx |
| 19:34:18 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I have changed metadata.c if you want to test a copy of it. |
| 19:34:32 | preglow | Slasheri: excellent!! |
| 19:34:34 | preglow | Slasheri: what bugs? |
| 19:34:40 | preglow | i just had a bug while seeking not long ago |
| 19:35:07 | _FireFly_ | preglow: didn't you want to pack did you ?? ;) |
| 19:35:10 | Slasheri | linuxstb: Ah, great :) in fact, if you wait a little i will commit everything :) |
| 19:35:19 | preglow | _FireFly_: i'm having another break |
| 19:35:30 | Slasheri | preglow: i am not sure about seeking problems but there was a lot of skipping bugs |
| 19:35:34 | _FireFly_ | preglow: ;) |
| 19:35:35 | preglow | i also need to clean up in here, since i'm moving around christmas times and wont have much time the n:/ |
| 19:36:15 | preglow | Slasheri: i just skipped to a new track, then immediately seeked thirty secs or so, playback didn't start again and the hd led just started flashing |
| 19:36:23 | preglow | had to restart playback of the track to fix it |
| 19:36:39 | Slasheri | preglow: Hmm, i will commit now, please test again if you can :) |
| 19:36:50 | preglow | ok, will |
| 19:36:59 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I can't commit my metadata.c myself (I've made probe_file_format a static function). I was going to give you a patch, and you can commit everything together - assuming it works. |
| 19:37:21 | linuxstb | That's if you've made the change to remove the call to probe_file_format. |
| 19:37:59 | Slasheri | linuxstb: Yes, i have done that. In fact, i added one probe_file_format call to the metadata.c so my changes wont break the playback |
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| 19:38:17 | Slasheri | but if i commit first and then you can apply your patch? |
| 19:38:21 | linuxstb | Sure. |
| 19:38:23 | Slasheri | good :) |
| 19:38:46 | linuxstb | So in theory, we should be able to have both ALAC and AAC using the .m4a extension now? |
| 19:39:24 | linuxstb | My get_metadata() function will set the codec type appropriately, depending on what it finds in the .m4a file. |
| 19:39:47 | Slasheri | linuxstb: yep, that should be very simple to do now |
| 19:39:58 | Slasheri | sounds good :) |
| 19:40:10 | preglow | w00t |
| 19:40:14 | preglow | linuxstb: do ogg flac please :) |
| 19:40:58 | DreamTactix291 | even foobar2000 chokes on Ogg FLAC |
| 19:41:02 | DreamTactix291 | lol |
| 19:41:08 | preglow | we wont! |
| 19:41:20 | DreamTactix291 | yeah lol |
| 19:41:21 | mirak | what's ogg flac ? |
| 19:41:26 | preglow | flac in an ogg container |
| 19:41:27 | DreamTactix291 | FLAC muxed into an Ogg container |
| 19:41:32 | DreamTactix291 | preglow was faster |
| 19:41:52 | DreamTactix291 | just like Ogg Vorbis is Vorbis muxed into an Ogg container |
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| 19:42:32 | Dima202 | Hey guys |
| 19:42:56 | DreamTactix291 | hello |
| 19:43:08 | Dima202 | Did anyone buy the universal AC adapter for All Archos Jukeboxes for $12.99? |
| 19:43:19 | Dima202 | From newmp3technology.com |
| 19:44:19 | Slasheri | linuxstb: committed |
| 19:45:01 | Dima202 | I want to know if it works good. i heard that some adapter kill the archos battery :( Or the charging piece |
| 19:45:41 | Dima202 | I actually used to have a universal adapter and used it to charge my Archos FM recorder and the charging unit died |
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| 19:47:49 | Dima202 | Also, does anyone know if I can charge my Archos Jukebox FM Recorder via USB? I don't have an ac adapter yet. And battery ran out. So I conencted it to usb. hoping it would charge the unit |
| 19:51:39 | preglow | Slasheri: i can still trigger the bug |
| 19:51:46 | Slasheri | :/ |
| 19:52:10 | Slasheri | what kind of file it was? |
| 19:52:13 | preglow | mp3 |
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| 19:52:17 | preglow | but can reproduce for ogg as well |
| 19:52:31 | preglow | just play a file, then immediately seek |
| 19:52:35 | preglow | i just hung my player doing it |
| 19:52:53 | Dima202 | So anyone use this adapter? |
| 19:53:02 | Dima202 | http://www.newmp3technology.com/proddetail.php?prod=ac |
| 19:53:22 | Dima202 | I really want to buy this asap. |
| 19:54:15 | Slasheri | preglow: hmm, i can't reproduce it.. loading a file and seeking as soon as the wps turns on |
| 19:54:49 | preglow | don'ty y\ |
| 19:54:55 | preglow | take 2: |
| 19:55:03 | preglow | don't think i've got any local mods than can have caused this |
| 19:55:53 | Slasheri | even with very high bitrate ogg file it works fine :/ |
| 19:56:15 | preglow | reproduced with mp3 as well |
| 19:56:29 | Slasheri | i tried with some mp3s too |
| 19:56:32 | preglow | very soon after wps shows, i seeks about thirty secs forward, bam, flashing led |
| 19:56:40 | preglow | with mp3s i can at least press stop and have it stop |
| 19:56:42 | preglow | oggs hang |
| 19:56:55 | Slasheri | does it matter what the bitrate is? |
| 19:57:48 | preglow | both 320 and 112kbps mp3 do it |
| 19:58:00 | preglow | i can reproduce it quite easily |
| 19:58:06 | Slasheri | the led flashes a short moment for the high bitrate ogg but very soon the playback continues |
| 19:58:13 | Slasheri | i have tried now over 10 times.. :D |
| 19:58:34 | preglow | that's the flashing i'm talking about |
| 19:58:37 | preglow | rapid blink |
| 19:58:40 | preglow | only sometimes, it doesn't stop |
| 19:58:45 | Slasheri | no, it's not rapid.. |
| 19:58:50 | preglow | it is here :) |
| 19:58:56 | Slasheri | interesting :) |
| 19:59:15 | preglow | reproduced with wavpack as well |
| 19:59:23 | preglow | blinking speed is codec dependent |
| 19:59:29 | preglow | slow for wavpack, fast for mpeg |
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| 19:59:56 | San | hey |
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| 20:00:03 | San | is it safe to patch the 1.29 FW? |
| 20:00:06 | San | I saw it on the RB site and was just making sure |
| 20:00:08 | preglow | eventually wavpack just gave up seeking and shut off the disk |
| 20:00:11 | Dima202 | Please. Can someone tell me if they bought this and if it works well: http://www.newmp3technology.com/proddetail.php?prod=ac |
| 20:00:16 | preglow | wps time is at what it was before i tried seeking |
| 20:00:26 | Dima202 | I don't want to kill my Jukebox fm recorder |
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| 20:00:37 | Slasheri | preglow: oh.. so you mean i should wait 30s before seeking? |
| 20:00:44 | preglow | Slasheri: no, seek immediately |
| 20:00:50 | Slasheri | i did that.. :/ |
| 20:00:51 | markun | Dima202: It supports all archos models, so why should it kill your recorder? |
| 20:00:56 | preglow | Slasheri: pressing even before wps shows works as well |
| 20:00:59 | Slasheri | no success with reproducing it.. |
| 20:01:04 | Slasheri | weird |
| 20:01:14 | Dima202 | markun, well I said that once I used a universal adapter and it killed my jukebox |
| 20:01:22 | San | yes?/No? (for my question) |
| 20:01:37 | preglow | Slasheri: nah, that doesn't work, that just skips tracks |
| 20:01:39 | ghode|afk | no |
| 20:01:52 | San | no? ok |
| 20:01:58 | Slasheri | preglow: i think now i did it |
| 20:01:59 | ghode|afk | the fwpatcher won't have the checksums for the newest firmware |
| 20:02:01 | Dima202 | markun, I wanted to know if anyone had such problems with this adapter |
| 20:02:17 | preglow | san: they say it work if you do it manually |
| 20:02:24 | Slasheri | i pressed next a short time before wps even shows up and player completely hangs |
| 20:02:30 | markun | Well, no one replies, so I guess I don't know. Sorry. |
| 20:02:34 | preglow | Slasheri: disk led? |
| 20:02:39 | Slasheri | but it took ~50 tries to reproduce it. No led |
| 20:02:47 | preglow | Slasheri: well, then you got some kind of bug :) |
| 20:02:52 | Slasheri | hehe :D |
| 20:02:56 | preglow | Slasheri: i think that's a different one, btw, that i've also seen before |
| 20:03:00 | San | preglow: I tjink I will just wait |
| 20:03:00 | San | :D |
| 20:03:07 | Slasheri | yes, very possible :) |
| 20:03:17 | preglow | San: i don't see why anyone would want to flash that firmware anyway, it's crap |
| 20:03:42 | Slasheri | it really completely hangs, have to you reset button |
| 20:03:52 | preglow | Slasheri: ahh, i've gotten that as well, yes |
| 20:03:54 | San | I am just curious |
| 20:03:54 | preglow | Slasheri: but very seldom |
| 20:04:11 | San | well, i guess curiosoty killed the cat, ...or DAP |
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| 20:04:27 | preglow | damn! nice! i nearly forgot to bring my favourite screwdriver to reset the iriver |
| 20:05:48 | iobound | hi |
| 20:06:50 | iobound | why are there so many old patches in the patch tracker on sourceforge? some are almost 2 years old? |
| 20:08:33 | Slasheri | ah, finally! i got now your bug as well |
| 20:08:53 | Slasheri | and got a logf dump from it |
| 20:08:57 | preglow | hooray! |
| 20:08:59 | Slasheri | the hdd led was flashing a long time |
| 20:09:01 | preglow | see what it is? |
| 20:09:34 | Slasheri | there was some kind of loop of the "rebuffering song" things |
| 20:11:04 | Slasheri | hehe, it was trying to seek even before the playback had started / tracks loaded |
| 20:11:29 | _FireFly_ | ouch ;) |
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| 20:12:19 | Slasheri | but fortunately easy to solve |
| 20:12:23 | mirak | hu I tried to flash 1.29 but it failed |
| 20:12:28 | preglow | great |
| 20:13:11 | mirak | anyone have an H300 ? |
| 20:13:17 | iobound | i do |
| 20:13:20 | mirak | the zip file they provide contains a .exe ? |
| 20:13:27 | mirak | I am on linux what can I do with that ? |
| 20:13:30 | iobound | of 1.29k, you mean? |
| 20:13:32 | mirak | pff |
| 20:13:47 | iobound | ? |
| 20:14:59 | _FireFly_ | mirak: try unzip or unzipsfx |
| 20:15:41 | iobound | or try running it in wine |
| 20:15:45 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 20:16:06 | _FireFly_ | i think this is simply a self-extracting archiv |
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| 20:16:27 | iobound | it's not a .zip file |
| 20:16:33 | iobound | seems to be a custom job |
| 20:16:49 | _FireFly_ | why do think so ?? |
| 20:16:55 | mirak | crap |
| 20:17:02 | iobound | becaue the GUI dialog box it opens looks like a hack-job |
| 20:17:13 | mirak | so I flashed the H300 with a crap file and it didn't died |
| 20:17:16 | iobound | and because unzip didn't work on it :) |
| 20:17:27 | _FireFly_ | and unzipsfx ? |
| 20:17:31 | mirak | fail |
| 20:17:36 | iobound | what about unzipsfx? |
| 20:17:39 | _FireFly_ | or unshield |
| 20:17:51 | iobound | what's unshield, an installshield decompressor? |
| 20:18:01 | mirak | wine H300.exe |
| 20:18:01 | mirak | err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\media\\H300\\DOCUMENTS\\Firmware\\H300kr-v129\\H300.exe") not found |
| 20:18:12 | iobound | i tried ctrl+pagedown'ing it in total commander and it didn't recognize it |
| 20:18:22 | iobound | mirak, i can send you the h300.hex file if you want |
| 20:18:28 | mirak | wine doesn't extract it |
| 20:18:37 | mirak | iobound: hem I can use qemu |
| 20:18:50 | mirak | but I need to recompile kernel module |
| 20:18:51 | _FireFly_ | mirak: what about unzipsfx ?? |
| 20:19:01 | mirak | _FireFly_: it fails |
| 20:19:08 | mirak | iobound: ok |
| 20:19:18 | iobound | firefly, i thought unzipsfx was for creating self extracting files? |
| 20:19:30 | mirak | iobound: if you could send me a rockbox patched version also |
| 20:19:37 | preglow | it is |
| 20:19:43 | iobound | that i can't do, but you can have the H300.hex file |
| 20:19:54 | mirak | iobound: yes pz |
| 20:19:56 | mirak | please |
| 20:20:08 | mirak | iobound: by mail what you want |
| 20:20:16 | iobound | by http |
| 20:20:21 | muesli_- | re |
| 20:20:23 | mirak | ok |
| 20:20:25 | iobound | what's up with this irc server not allowing /msgs |
| 20:20:33 | mirak | /msg |
| 20:20:39 | iobound | it says i need to register |
| 20:20:50 | Dima202 | How can I charge my Archos FM Recorder via USB? |
| 20:21:03 | _FireFly_ | iobound: unzipsfx should unzip sfx-archives not creating ;) |
| 20:21:27 | _FireFly_ | ups i'm wrong |
| 20:21:41 | _FireFly_ | i should read the man-page before writing :) |
| 20:21:49 | iobound | actually i think unzipsfx is not supposed to be run standalone |
| 20:22:10 | * | markun is building yet another cross-compiler, this time for arm-linux |
| 20:22:38 | Dima202 | Does anyone have the Jukeboxs FM Recorder? |
| 20:22:40 | iobound | mirak, did you get the PM |
| 20:22:48 | _FireFly_ | strange the eu version is a zip-file |
| 20:22:53 | _FireFly_ | and has only the hex in it |
| 20:23:28 | _FireFly_ | downloaded from this side: http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?searchProductIdx=42&searchCategoryIdx=1&searchString=&page=1&idx=767&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchCategoryIdx=&tmpSearchString= |
| 20:24:53 | _FireFly_ | also the kr version |
| 20:25:08 | _FireFly_ | mirak: i don't know what do you had downloaded |
| 20:25:25 | _FireFly_ | but on this side all files are normal zip-files |
| 20:25:26 | iobound | awesome, a normal .zip |
| 20:25:39 | iobound | firefly he probably got http://service.iriver.co.kr/qk_pds_ok.asp?path=1&idx=607&p_name=H320 |
| 20:25:49 | iobound | that is a .zip file with an .exe inside it which self-extracts to h300.hex |
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| 20:26:45 | _FireFly_ | iobound: a way to do it harder then needed ;) |
| 20:26:46 | Dima202 | Does anyone have the Jukeboxs FM Recorder? |
| 20:26:52 | Dima202 | How can you charge it with usb? |
| 20:26:55 | mirak | _FireFly_: I don't use the EU version, ouput is to low |
| 20:26:56 | iobound | yeah i don't know what the point of that was |
| 20:27:08 | mirak | that's because of french regulation, that's stupid |
| 20:27:10 | iobound | mirak, there's a korean .zip file there too |
| 20:27:15 | mirak | and I am french ... |
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| 20:28:14 | mirak | ok |
| 20:28:46 | _FireFly_ | mirak: http://www.iriver.com/html/admin/etc/adet_download_process_1.asp?fileName=H300(kr)_V129.zip&pathFlag=EG_DOWNLOAD_UP_PATH |
| 20:28:58 | _FireFly_ | eu,jp and kr |
| 20:29:56 | iobound | yeah, the .hex files are identical |
| 20:29:59 | Dima202 | mirak, do you have the Archos FM Recorder? |
| 20:30:12 | mirak | Dima202: I am afraid that no |
| 20:30:15 | iobound | why did they take the effort to create two distributions, one regular .zip file and one with an .exe selfextractor |
| 20:31:01 | Dima202 | iobound, do you have the Archos Jukebox FM Recorder? |
| 20:31:05 | _FireFly_ | and zip it after creating the .exe |
| 20:31:12 | iobound | no, i have an h340 |
| 20:31:13 | iobound | why do you ask? |
| 20:31:48 | Dima202 | iobound, I am looking for someone with the Archos Jukebox FM Recorder to find out how they charge it via usb |
| 20:31:51 | Dima202 | I heard this is possible |
| 20:32:02 | iobound | ok, i'm sorry to say i'm not your guy there :) |
| 20:32:06 | Dima202 | :) |
| 20:32:23 | Dima202 | _FireFly_, do you hace the Archos Jukebox FM Recorder? |
| 20:32:26 | _FireFly_ | no |
| 20:32:35 | _FireFly_ | only iriver h120 |
| 20:32:37 | Dima202 | Why not? |
| 20:32:46 | Dima202 | It;s the most awesome mp3 player |
| 20:32:50 | Dima202 | It lived through so much stuff |
| 20:33:09 | Dima202 | and then even though I didn't have warranty, after like 5 years I sent it to archose and they replaced it with the same one |
| 20:33:23 | Dima202 | It's so rugged and the battery lasts for long time :) |
| 20:33:33 | Dima202 | It's bulky though |
| 20:33:33 | Dima202 | :( |
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| 20:34:41 | _FireFly_ | ah found it why the text LANG_CONFIRM_WITH_PLAY_RECORDER and LANG_CANCEL_WITH_ANY_RECORDER is printed twice when having bookmark_on_stop set to ask :) |
| 20:34:47 | _FireFly_ | on the main-lcd |
| 20:35:54 | mirak | hem what's the H300 resolution ? |
| 20:36:27 | _FireFly_ | look at config-h300.h |
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| 20:40:18 | Slasheri | preglow: please try now again, if you are still here :) |
| 20:41:01 | preglow | i am |
| 20:44:02 | preglow | wooh, was very afraid a moment there |
| 20:44:08 | preglow | the same symptoms are visible for a second |
| 20:44:12 | preglow | then it snaps out of it and plays |
| 20:44:41 | preglow | so seems you fixed it, thanks :) |
| 20:44:48 | Slasheri | sounds good :) |
| 20:46:11 | iobound | i think i'm going to upload my dumb plugin as a patch to the tracker |
| 20:47:08 | mirak | hey I wanted to contribute a doc of the CVS done with doxygen |
| 20:47:28 | mirak | I gave a link to how it looks like some minutes above |
| 20:47:46 | mirak | that's the kind of thing that can be usefull to browse the code and discover it |
| 20:48:05 | mirak | who can I propose that ? |
| 20:48:23 | mirak | it would be nice on the rockbox website |
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| 20:49:04 | mirak | I can't really host it on my computer |
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| 20:52:52 | _FireFly_ | i have submitted a small bugfix-patch which solves the problem which i had said some minutes ago and 2 more |
| 20:53:18 | noel_sad_song | Hi, anybody there? |
| 20:53:42 | noel_sad_song | is it safe to patch firmware 1.66? |
| 20:54:09 | mirak | lol ok, so I will keep that beautifull doc for me ^^ |
| 20:54:14 | Slasheri | noel_sad_song: should be, but fwpatcher doesn't yet support it |
| 20:54:19 | mirak | that's probably to big anyway |
| 20:55:04 | noel_sad_song | really? damn it!! |
| 20:55:53 | Slasheri | and i can't even try the new firmware without coding some stuff first because i don't have iriver fw on flash at all :) |
| 20:55:55 | _FireFly_ | mirak: you could put it either on the patch-tracker or register yourself in the wiki on rockbox.org and put it there |
| 20:56:05 | _FireFly_ | Slasheri: ;) |
| 20:56:30 | noel_sad_song | :S |
| 20:56:36 | mirak | _FireFly_: how much space is there on the wiki ? |
| 20:56:53 | _FireFly_ | don't know |
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| 20:57:58 | mirak | cause the doc is HUGE |
| 20:58:05 | _FireFly_ | how much ?? |
| 20:58:08 | mirak | 160 megs |
| 20:58:15 | _FireFly_ | lol |
| 20:58:17 | mirak | compressed it's 24 |
| 20:58:20 | mirak | :D |
| 20:58:30 | mirak | I have put to much graphs options |
| 20:58:30 | _FireFly_ | in what file-format ?? |
| 20:58:40 | mirak | compressed in tar.bz2 |
| 20:58:51 | mirak | the images are in .png |
| 20:58:57 | mirak | maybe .gif takes less space |
| 20:59:11 | _FireFly_ | or jpeg |
| 20:59:37 | _FireFly_ | do you had used doxygen to create it don't you ?? |
| 20:59:46 | _FireFly_ | then you could create also an pfd-version |
| 20:59:59 | mirak | _FireFly_: yep |
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| 21:01:00 | _FireFly_ | s/pfd/pdf |
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| 21:05:09 | preglow | Slasheri: what about the total hang bug? know what that's caused by? |
| 21:05:36 | tucoz | mirak, do you have a link to the doxygen generated page? |
| 21:07:25 | tucoz | nevermind, I found it in the logs |
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| 21:07:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:08:01 | tucoz | But isn't it a better idea to have it in english? |
| 21:08:02 | mirak | tucoz: I have genrated a new one |
| 21:08:09 | tucoz | I see |
| 21:08:10 | mirak | in engish |
| 21:08:13 | tucoz | :) |
| 21:09:34 | mirak | if you go up you will find rockdoxy_En |
| 21:09:37 | mirak | tucoz: |
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| 21:09:42 | Sof | hi all |
| 21:10:00 | Sof | it htere someone to help me with voicebox please? |
| 21:10:19 | tucoz | ok, great |
| 21:10:25 | curio | /msg NickServ IDENTIFY |
| 21:10:31 | curio | oops sorry |
| 21:10:59 | mirak | tucoz: http://mirak.homelinux.net/~karim/public/rockdoxy_En/ |
| 21:11:00 | wubbla | is it possible to load colored bitmaps and display them? |
| 21:11:06 | mirak | I don't know why it starts on flac doc |
| 21:11:17 | tucoz | mirak: I found it, funny that the main page starts talking about FLAC |
| 21:11:51 | tucoz | as opposed to Rockbox |
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| 21:13:03 | mirak | that's probably due to the directory layout |
| 21:13:30 | mirak | modules tab also go on flac |
| 21:14:01 | tucoz | Yes, I noticed. The graphs looks neat. |
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| 21:17:04 | tucoz | oops, got to run. Bye |
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| 21:18:49 | Slasheri | preglow: unfortunately i haven't been able to reproduce that.. it might be still there or fixed with the other bug |
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| 21:30:01 | lostlogicx | dangit, I can't get my profiling code to link right |
| 21:30:22 | lostlogicx | the symbols are in librockbox.a but when libTremor.a goes to link it says "NO YOU DIE NOW" |
| 21:31:08 | preglow | the tightest packed bag _ever_ |
| 21:31:54 | Musicmad | preglow: I heard you were working on a parametric EQ. Have you considered adding low/high shelves too? |
| 21:32:41 | preglow | Musicmad: of course |
| 21:32:57 | Musicmad | excellent :) |
| 21:32:58 | preglow | those are the ones i'm currently working on |
| 21:33:03 | preglow | they were a bit harder than the peaking filter |
| 21:33:14 | Musicmad | indeed. But very handy.. |
| 21:33:20 | preglow | sure |
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| 21:33:55 | Nixsos | i'm playing with writing a plugin, so i've written a simple app in C, now how do i compile my plugin so i can test it in the emulator and on my device? i'm new to cygwin... anyone willing to give me a step by step instruction? |
| 21:34:37 | Nixsos | i've succesfully build rockbox btw, but i dont wanna compile the whole rockbox folder when i wanna try my plugin |
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| 21:37:13 | Rob2222 | Does anybody know if the Toshiba 80GB 1,8" HD MK8007GAH is aviable on the market, yet? |
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| 21:38:15 | XavierGr | LOL there is a new firmware for H100 serires hahaha. |
| 21:38:36 | Rob2222 | ? |
| 21:38:36 | Musicmad | hehe yes :) - they even fixed the recording glitch. heh |
| 21:39:28 | XavierGr | really, they fixed it entirely? No holded buttons? |
| 21:39:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems odd that they just decided to release 1.66 |
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| 21:40:06 | Musicmad | XavierGr: haven't tested it. |
| 21:40:21 | XavierGr | well anyway, who cares? |
| 21:40:29 | XavierGr | rockbox is here so... |
| 21:40:34 | Musicmad | true |
| 21:40:52 | linuxstb_ | Slasheri: I've just committed my small changes to metadata.c - I can now play .m4a files containing either AAC or ALAC streams :) |
| 21:41:06 | iobound | nixsos, if you have compiled rockbox, it probably compiled "yourplugin.rock" too, didn't it? |
| 21:41:26 | iobound | nixsos, to test, just do "make install" then, and test it in the simulator "./rockboxui.exe" |
| 21:41:46 | iobound | dammit, the sourceforge patch tracker cannot have files > 256kb, and my patch is 400kb |
| 21:41:50 | iobound | should i gzip it? |
| 21:41:55 | Musicmad | is there a precompiled simulator somewhere? |
| 21:42:03 | Nixsos | iobound: yeah but isn't there a way to compile my plugin only? |
| 21:42:05 | PaulJ | hi, i have a mp3 that skips after 5 seconds on h320. can someone test if it skips also on h1xx |
| 21:42:06 | petur | win32? |
| 21:42:15 | Slasheri | linuxstb_: hehe, nice =) |
| 21:42:15 | Philip | on mistic river there are some reports of not being able to re-flash your H100 with this new firmware.... |
| 21:42:17 | iobound | nixsos, when you change your plugin, "make" recompiles only the modified files |
| 21:42:24 | muesli_- | mirak did i speak with you about video on h1xx? |
| 21:42:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | iobound: What's your patch for, that it's 400kb? |
| 21:42:42 | Nixsos | iobound: okay cool :D |
| 21:43:05 | iobound | it upgrades libdumb to 0.9.3 and adds a plugin which uses libdumb to play audio on win32 sim and render to disk on win32 and h300 |
| 21:43:20 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I would be happy to add OggFLAC support to Rockbox - we just need to write a small Ogg parser that we can share between Tremor, FLAC and Speex. |
| 21:43:44 | XavierGr | Ha they added Greek support too. LOL |
| 21:43:47 | ashridah | Musicmad: no, rockbox don't provide a precompiled simulator, since it's only of useful value to developers |
| 21:43:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gah, curse you linuxstb_. I saw the word "speex" and got all excited until I realized it wasn't *actually* about a codec. :-P |
| 21:44:03 | linuxstb_ | hehe |
| 21:44:05 | Musicmad | ashridah: ok - needed it to mess with a wps. |
| 21:44:17 | petur | Musicmad: I just did a build, need it? |
| 21:44:26 | Musicmad | petur: sure would be great. |
| 21:44:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Y'know, precompiled simulators packaged into the daily build or some other download might actually be a good idea. It'd solve the "Is there a WPS preview program?" question. |
| 21:44:46 | Musicmad | Paul_The_Nerd: exactly. |
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| 21:45:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not that the simulators work well on my laptop without changing the button settings. It lacks the number pad and its Fn key doesn't really seem to have the appropriate effect. |
| 21:46:30 | Musicmad | Paul_The_Nerd: so you are saying it wont work on my ibm laptop - or work sufficiently to test some wps changes I plan. |
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| 21:46:36 | mirak | muesli_-: maybe |
| 21:46:52 | muesli_- | ah Wett :D |
| 21:46:59 | muesli_- | bonyour |
| 21:47:03 | muesli_- | j |
| 21:47:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Musicmad: It'll probably work fine. |
| 21:47:39 | Lear | linuxstb_: the ogg parts of Tremor should be shareable enough, I think. |
| 21:47:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | My laptop doesn't seem to simulate a number pad properly, despite the Fn key. |
| 21:47:53 | petur | Musicmad, did you receive something? |
| 21:48:49 | preglow | linuxstb_: i think libogg2 should do nicely |
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| 21:50:24 | preglow | but okies, catching a train to trondheim, see ya'll tomorrow |
| 21:51:00 | iobound | seeya |
| 21:51:41 | linuxstb_ | Lear, preglow: I'll look at both. |
| 21:51:57 | Musicmad | thanks petur got it |
| 21:53:27 | Lear | linuxstb_: In Tremor, it's only the files ogg.h, bitwise.c and framing.c, afaik. |
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| 21:55:00 | * | petur is still looking for a gui frontend for gdb in cygwin |
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| 21:56:10 | PaulJ | can someone test if this mp3 skips after 5 seconds on h1xx: |
| 21:56:29 | PaulJ | http://www.stud.uni-goettingen.de/~s291827/test/07%20Flow_.mp3 |
| 21:56:31 | Lear | petur: Eclipse should work, I think... Don't remember if I actually tried it though. :) |
| 21:56:56 | ashridah | cramming rockbox into eclipse's CDT plugin isn't pretty |
| 21:57:04 | ashridah | the indexer has hysterics |
| 21:57:15 | petur | Lear: I saw there is Eclipse, Eclipse and ... euh ... eclipse ;) |
| 21:57:44 | Lear | Huh? |
| 21:58:36 | petur | I have one at work that came with some devkit, doesn't look like Eclipse but can't find what it is |
| 21:58:54 | linuxstb_ | Paul_The_Nerd: The mp3 stops playback after about 3 seconds on my h1x0 (with the very latest CVS) |
| 21:59:09 | linuxstb_ | s/Paul_The_Nerd/PaulJ/ |
| 21:59:11 | petur | Real Win32 executables should add some resource info containing details about the exe :( |
| 21:59:12 | linuxstb_ | (sorry...) |
| 21:59:24 | iobound | preglow, i've uploaded the dumb plugin to http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1371196&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 21:59:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 22:00:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | 'sokay, linuxstb_, I was about to tell PaulJ exactly what you said. It happens on mine too. |
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| 22:01:07 | linuxstb_ | Checking the file with "madplay", I get the following error: "error: frame 248: bad audio data length" (and it continues up to frame 309) |
| 22:01:08 | PaulJ | linuxstb: do you see whats wrong with it? it also skips on h320. if i fastforward this position the file plays fine. |
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| 22:01:36 | linuxstb_ | According to madplay, there are bad frames between 6-8 seconds. |
| 22:01:49 | linuxstb_ | (plus some more later on) |
| 22:02:47 | linuxstb_ | Strangely, mpg123 (which uses a different mpeg decoder) doesn't have any problems with it. |
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| 22:03:22 | DreamTactix291 | hmm |
| 22:03:50 | PaulJ | linuxstb: mp3utility shows no errors |
| 22:04:12 | Lear | neither does mp3check. |
| 22:05:21 | PaulJ | ok, thanx, it seems i have to rerip this song |
| 22:05:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | How did you encode it? |
| 22:06:32 | XavierGr | what's limbdumb? |
| 22:06:33 | PaulJ | with eac and lame 3.96.1 −−alt -preset -standard |
| 22:07:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hrm. Odd. |
| 22:07:29 | PaulJ | no, not lame that was with an old wverson of xing |
| 22:07:55 | PaulJ | that explains it maybe |
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| 22:12:36 | * | petur is downloading Insight - comes as source + lots of extra instructions for cygwin |
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| 22:31:21 | Kyl3 | How hard would it be to implant 1.29K into the bootloader? |
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| 22:31:54 | petur | not much I think, but it's better LinusN tries this ;) |
| 22:33:10 | Kyl3 | I'm in no hurry I wont see my H340 till Janary |
| 22:33:20 | Kyl3 | January* |
| 22:34:13 | petur | RMA? |
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| 22:36:30 | muesli- | l8er m8s |
| 22:36:44 | Kyl3 | petur:yes |
| 22:37:53 | petur | will you get a 340 back? Have heard talks about getting H10 or alike back (?) |
| 22:38:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ouch, that would suck. |
| 22:38:55 | petur | would probably sell it and buy something else |
| 22:39:22 | Kyl3 | I sure hope so I put a note in to box saying Dont send H10. |
| 22:39:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | If they gave me an H10 back, I'd send it right back, call and complain. |
| 22:39:31 | Kyl3 | Besides, I insured it |
| 22:39:36 | petur | AARGH - build of insight failed :( |
| 22:39:58 | Kyl3 | I formatted and unistalled Rockbox and flashed to 1.03US |
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| 22:57:11 | prethom | my god., irc by mobile truly does suck |
| 22:57:28 | Bagder | :-) |
| 22:58:38 | prethom | but at least it works |
| 22:59:50 | ender` | what do you use? |
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| 23:00:28 | prethom | wlirc, it seems |
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| 23:01:33 | prethom | think ill end this unholy waste of money right now |
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| 23:34:55 | * | petur gives up getting a graphical debugger running |
| 23:35:41 | iobound | petur, have you tried ddd? |
| 23:35:52 | petur | thought I had left text debugging behind me when I got rid of MS-DOS :( |
| 23:35:55 | petur | ddd? |
| 23:35:58 | iobound | http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/ |
| 23:36:02 | iobound | it's a graphical frontend to gdb |
| 23:36:24 | petur | am browsing to their site... |
| 23:36:27 | iobound | i haven't really used it much, i think i tried it once, and figured "this is probably nice if i ever need to debug something" and then i forgot about it, but i think it's kinda usable |
| 23:36:39 | Bagder | petur: you write perfect programs since the day you left MS-DOS? |
| 23:36:48 | Bagder | that's pretty good |
| 23:36:59 | Bagder | oh *text* debugging |
| 23:37:09 | [1]Tomas | ghehe |
| 23:37:19 | petur | who could say that - no, as I said: spoiled by IDE's |
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| 23:37:27 | Bagder | I use gdb through emacs |
| 23:37:33 | Bagder | IDE enough |
| 23:37:35 | t0mas | Bagder interprettet it as perfect programs... I tought NO programs :P |
| 23:37:50 | Bagder | spoiled is the word |
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| 23:37:53 | t0mas | jup |
| 23:38:03 | Bagder | I run from IDEs |
| 23:38:12 | petur | doesn't take long to get used to |
| 23:38:23 | Bagder | I've never done it |
| 23:38:27 | Bagder | got used, that is |
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| 23:38:39 | JdGordon | morning all |
| 23:38:45 | Bagder | but then I'm old and grumpy ;-) |
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| 23:39:18 | petur | Have been doing W32 programming the last 10+ years, just recently got beck to firmware dev |
| 23:39:22 | JonSenior | Hi folks: Possibly daft question, but has anyone had any success with using objdump to disassemble the iRiver firmware? |
| 23:39:26 | petur | *back |
| 23:39:39 | Bagder | JonSenior: certainly |
| 23:39:56 | Bagder | unscramble it |
| 23:40:03 | Bagder | run objdump -D |
| 23:40:06 | Bagder | read |
| 23:40:17 | JonSenior | Unscrambled... tried -d |
| 23:40:22 | JonSenior | I'll try the big D |
| 23:40:27 | iobound | JonSenior, yes. but remember to use m68k-elf-objdump and not just your system's "objdump" |
| 23:40:33 | Bagder | but we never did any disassembly very much |
| 23:40:34 | iobound | i used −−disassemble |
| 23:40:45 | iobound | oh and i think you have to run it on the .elf file, not the .bin file |
| 23:40:51 | Bagder | you can do it on a bin |
| 23:41:00 | iobound | my objdump threw a hissy fit |
| 23:41:02 | Bagder | I've done it |
| 23:41:03 | JonSenior | I keep getting a file-format error |
| 23:41:13 | Bagder | read up on the arguments |
| 23:42:10 | JonSenior | I've tried setting -m (Machine-type) and depending on values of -b (Object format) I can change the error message to Invalid bfd target! |
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| 23:43:49 | iobound | i tried -b binary -m m68k:68020 −−disassemble rockbox.iriver and it just prints "rockbox.iriver: file format binary" |
| 23:45:09 | Bagder | m68k-elf-objdump -D -x -mm68k -b binary rockbox.bin |
| 23:45:18 | Bagder | works for me |
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| 23:46:50 | JonSenior | These are the rockbox ones though. |
| 23:47:11 | Bagder | ones what? |
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| 23:47:11 | JonSenior | Is there any reason that shouldn't work for a descrambled H300.hex (H300.bin) |
| 23:47:14 | | Part San |
| 23:47:29 | Bagder | I don't have any such around so I didn't do that |
| 23:47:38 | Bagder | it works for all binaries |
| 23:47:54 | iobound | maybe most of h300 is compressed even when unscrambled? |
| 23:48:11 | JonSenior | Nope. |
| 23:48:15 | Bagder | it could be of course, but then the disassembly will tell ;-) |
| 23:48:16 | JonSenior | Badger's commnd works fine |
| 23:48:21 | iobound | ok |
| 23:48:27 | JonSenior | But I swear I'd already tried that option set! |
| 23:48:32 | JonSenior | Pah |
| 23:48:39 | Bagder | you just needed my magic ;-) |
| 23:49:04 | JonSenior | Incidently... why Bagder, not Badger? |
| 23:49:11 | JonSenior | Nick already taken? |
| 23:49:23 | Bagder | I've used it for 20 years |
| 23:49:44 | Bagder | I had a dyslexic moment and it stuck |
| 23:49:52 | JonSenior | He he |
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| 23:53:30 | elinenbe | Bagder: 1) buy 1000 of the next player you intend to support with Rockbox |
| 23:53:41 | elinenbe | 2) port over the goodness we call Rockbox... make it RULE |
| 23:53:44 | elinenbe | 3) ???? |
| 23:53:48 | elinenbe | 4) profit! |
| 23:54:04 | elinenbe | have you seen the prices of iriiver players on ebay since rockbox? |
| 23:54:05 | elinenbe | uggggg |
| 23:54:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | I know, it's crazy |
| 23:54:25 | Bagder | yes, I hear they are expensive |
| 23:54:56 | elinenbe | before rockbox I bought one for ~ $100 |
| 23:55:02 | elinenbe | now they are $300 - $400 |
| 23:58:11 | iobound | what, really? |
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