| 00:00:10 | muesli- | ./join #blabla |
| 00:02:45 | BBub | muesli-: querys are blocked on this net for unregistered users ;) |
| 00:02:53 | muesli- | aah |
| 00:02:57 | muesli- | good to know |
| 00:03:43 | muesli- | i was bothering many times user and was wondering why they never replied ;9 |
| 00:04:05 | dunkellic | lol |
| 00:04:31 | muesli- | how do i reg myself? |
| 00:04:42 | | Join Dima202 [0] (n=dimatech@ool-457ab87d.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:04:46 | Dima202 | Hmm |
| 00:04:55 | Bagder | "/msg nickserv help" |
| 00:05:41 | Dima202 | I get it. How to charge the FM Recorder with USB |
| 00:05:58 | Dima202 | And then to set it to be recognized as drive |
| 00:06:37 | dunkellic | say, there isnīt any chance that we will be able to play gba roms on our h300s (i already read the faq, but i just want to make shure ^^) |
| 00:07:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not on the H300s |
| 00:08:14 | dunkellic | gb is enough ;) |
| 00:09:34 | DrumRMboy320 | how do you auto 'identify' in mIRC? |
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| 00:10:21 | Bger | DrumRMboy320? |
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| 00:10:46 | muesli- | options |
| 00:10:53 | Bger | Options->Connect->perform |
| 00:10:56 | Bger | and there |
| 00:11:01 | DrumRMboy320 | cool, thank you very much |
| 00:11:06 | Bger | "/msg nickserv identify password" |
| 00:11:35 | dunkellic | i gues there wonīt be any improvement on the standart emulator either, or? |
| 00:11:47 | BBub | not in the near future |
| 00:11:53 | dunkellic | too bad ^^ |
| 00:11:55 | Bger | emulator ? or simulator / |
| 00:12:03 | Bagder | dunkellic: everything in Rockbox will continue to improve over time |
| 00:12:07 | Bagder | as before |
| 00:12:21 | Bagder | you can whine and wait, or join in and help us make it happen |
| 00:12:32 | dunkellic | if i could i would help |
| 00:12:37 | Bagder | things don't happen by themselves |
| 00:12:43 | dunkellic | but well, iīm not very into programming |
| 00:13:12 | Bger | noone was born with knowledge ... :) |
| 00:13:19 | BBub | i would like to help, but i find it hard to "work" myself into the code |
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| 00:16:26 | dunkellic | is there a big difference in the performance of the h100 cpu and the h300 cpu? |
| 00:16:36 | BBub | i think they're the same |
| 00:16:42 | Bagder | they are identical |
| 00:16:44 | muesli- | yepp |
| 00:16:44 | San | can the H300 convert wav to wv? |
| 00:16:55 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dunkellic |
| 00:16:55 | dunkellic | [Bagder] they are identical <−− thought so ^^ |
| 00:16:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | If the wav2wv viewer works.. |
| 00:17:03 | San | does it? |
| 00:17:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't have an h300 |
| 00:17:14 | San | oh |
| 00:17:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | You could always try |
| 00:17:20 | San | yeah |
| 00:17:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Click and hold navi on the .wav file, I think. |
| 00:17:48 | San | yeah, it is |
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| 00:25:31 | dunkellic | cya ppl |
| 00:25:36 | | Quit dunkellic ("You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, France is accusing the) |
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| 00:36:26 | San | does anyone know about the FF bug on MPC? |
| 00:37:34 | markun | San: ff in MPC was removed for now because it was too slow. Not a bug. |
| 00:37:55 | San | oh, ok |
| 00:38:30 | San | when will it be back? |
| 00:39:29 | markun | I don't think anyone is working on it. |
| 00:39:39 | San | ok |
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| 00:43:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think it's unlikely that it will be back |
| 00:43:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | To my understanding, it's a flaw in the way the codec itself is designed. |
| 00:43:36 | LinusN | "i understand that - what i meant is, it must be hard to do, or he would have already done it." |
| 00:44:18 | LinusN | :-) |
| 00:44:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 00:46:02 | markun | LinusN: who are you quoting? |
| 00:46:27 | LinusN | baobab68 from earlier today |
| 00:46:31 | markun | Ah :) |
| 00:46:48 | LinusN | regarding why i don't turn off the lcd to save power |
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| 00:48:29 | | Part Lamed |
| 00:49:07 | markun | An image of the chinese font file from the gigabeat: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/fzh001.png |
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| 00:49:36 | LinusN | huh? |
| 00:49:44 | markun | encrypted I guess |
| 00:49:52 | LinusN | how do you know it's a chinese font file? |
| 00:50:31 | DrumRMboy320 | linus, while your here, ima use the new bootloader for 1.29 and do that upgrade |
| 00:50:39 | markun | The files are called: FNTJA.DAT, FNTZH.DAT, FNTZT.DAT and FNTZT24.DAT |
| 00:50:52 | DrumRMboy320 | is there anything i can do to prevent what happened last time? |
| 00:51:03 | LinusN | DrumRMboy320: what happened? |
| 00:51:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:51:11 | * | LinusN has a weak memory |
| 00:51:30 | DrumRMboy320 | remember, it went completely dead, you said for me to hold 'on' and tap reset twice |
| 00:51:38 | markun | I just guessed ZH was for chinese |
| 00:51:38 | LinusN | ah |
| 00:51:40 | DrumRMboy320 | and that fixed it, but will that be a problem again? |
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| 00:51:59 | LinusN | DrumRMboy320: has it worked well since? |
| 00:52:19 | DrumRMboy320 | perfectly, just i dont wanna risk not having it work |
| 00:52:25 | DrumRMboy320 | :( its my baby! |
| 00:52:41 | LinusN | you shouldn't worry |
| 00:52:56 | DrumRMboy320 | ok, thank you |
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| 00:55:03 | markun | LinusN: today I took the Gigabeat appart. I tried to get the LCD out of it's plastic casing, but was afraid to break it. |
| 00:55:19 | LinusN | plastic casing? |
| 00:55:43 | markun | yes, it prevents me from viewing if there are any markings on the back |
| 00:55:52 | DimaTech | Hey guy |
| 00:55:57 | DimaTech | Anyone try these speakers? |
| 00:55:58 | DimaTech | http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/72191/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do#tabs |
| 00:56:04 | DimaTech | These have awesome review |
| 00:56:16 | DimaTech | And durable too.. from the reviews |
| 00:56:26 | DimaTech | Can anyone say anything about them? |
| 00:56:34 | DimaTech | So cheap.. Just sounds too good to be true |
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| 00:59:05 | markun | LinusN: I noticed on the PCB there are 3 oscillators: X1, X2 and X4. There is also a space for X3, wonder what it's use would be. |
| 00:59:23 | LinusN | interesting |
| 00:59:34 | markun | Also on the X30 the X3 space is empty |
| 00:59:44 | markun | LinusN: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/GigabeatInfo/3.jpg |
| 00:59:51 | markun | left of the ARM |
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| 01:00:54 | LinusN | well, i guess you'll find out when you trace it with your multimeter |
| 01:01:25 | markun | yes. Maybe it connects to the dac or something |
| 01:02:08 | markun | to support more freqs than multiples of 44.1 |
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| 01:02:25 | DimaTech | Anyone try these speakers? |
| 01:02:28 | DimaTech | http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/72191/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do#tabs |
| 01:02:31 | DimaTech | Can anyone say anything about them? |
| 01:02:33 | DrumRMboy320 | not i |
| 01:02:36 | DimaTech | So cheap.. Just sounds too good to be true |
| 01:02:49 | DimaTech | Sorry if I wrtoe this before. The connection died |
| 01:02:58 | DimaTech | Which do u use? |
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| 01:03:17 | DrumRMboy320 | i do have a question though... where can i find the latest FWpatcher... i looked all over the RB site, searched... nothing :( |
| 01:04:03 | markun | LinusN: I was a bit chocked how small everything inside the Gigabeat was, although I could have known from the dimensions and the PCB pics :) |
| 01:04:19 | muesli- | DrumRMboy320 http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 01:05:08 | muesli- | g'night folks |
| 01:05:24 | DrumRMboy320 | ty |
| 01:05:26 | DrumRMboy320 | nite |
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| 01:08:55 | DrumRMboy320 | ok... i dont need any aditional files to patch 1.29, just that one .EXE? |
| 01:09:12 | LinusN | and the 1.29 hex file of course |
| 01:09:19 | DrumRMboy320 | well ;) |
| 01:09:37 | DrumRMboy320 | ok, i wanna do everything EXACT this time... lol |
| 01:16:43 | DrumRMboy320 | ok, is the patched file supposed to be around four mb's... lets see... 4,084 kb's |
| 01:16:47 | DrumRMboy320 | is that correct? |
| 01:16:56 | LinusN | sounds ok |
| 01:17:01 | DrumRMboy320 | ok |
| 01:17:20 | BBub | is it really that hard? ;) |
| 01:17:30 | BBub | just run an md5 check on it |
| 01:17:31 | DrumRMboy320 | well, i screwed up //somthing// last time |
| 01:17:36 | DrumRMboy320 | ok, how? |
| 01:17:41 | muesli_- | BBub next query try failed again ;) |
| 01:17:41 | LinusN | fwpatcher checks it for you |
| 01:17:53 | BBub | oh, i didnt knew that |
| 01:18:17 | DrumRMboy320 | so, it should be good if done with the fwpatcher? |
| 01:18:29 | BBub | yup |
| 01:18:29 | muesli_- | anyway..did i see you on frozena? |
| 01:18:39 | BBub | me? |
| 01:18:41 | BBub | i guess not |
| 01:18:51 | DrumRMboy320 | "Firmware Upgrade" |
| 01:18:55 | muesli_- | but ive seen your nick somewhere.. |
| 01:19:45 | DrumRMboy320 | ok |
| 01:19:49 | DrumRMboy320 | problem again |
| 01:19:51 | DrumRMboy320 | :( |
| 01:20:10 | DrumRMboy320 | no good... HDD is on, no screen |
| 01:20:24 | BBub | it flashes that fast? |
| 01:20:30 | BBub | my h1xx takes longer |
| 01:20:31 | DrumRMboy320 | no flash |
| 01:20:34 | DrumRMboy320 | dead screen |
| 01:20:37 | DrumRMboy320 | HDD spinning |
| 01:20:46 | DrumRMboy320 | lemme try what worked last time |
| 01:22:18 | LinusN | DrumRMboy320: it seems like you have one of those units that doesn't like the early hard drive poweron |
| 01:22:36 | DrumRMboy320 | lucky me |
| 01:22:45 | LinusN | hehe |
| 01:23:06 | DrumRMboy320 | no good |
| 01:23:30 | LinusN | DrumRMboy320: ok, this is where it may be a little tricky |
| 01:23:42 | DrumRMboy320 | please help me :'( |
| 01:23:46 | LinusN | make sure it is off by resettingnit once |
| 01:23:55 | DrumRMboy320 | off |
| 01:24:21 | LinusN | first experiment: enable the hold switch and turn it on |
| 01:24:32 | DrumRMboy320 | IT WORKS |
| 01:24:40 | DrumRMboy320 | wait |
| 01:24:43 | DrumRMboy320 | it flashed |
| 01:24:48 | DrumRMboy320 | its not all dead |
| 01:24:55 | LinusN | i knew that |
| 01:25:06 | DrumRMboy320 | of course |
| 01:25:23 | DrumRMboy320 | but still, no good |
| 01:25:32 | DrumRMboy320 | if i take hold off, its dead again |
| 01:25:57 | LinusN | you can start rockbox by turning it on with the hold switch enabled and then quickly disable it |
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| 01:26:07 | DrumRMboy320 | ok, i fixed it |
| 01:26:10 | DrumRMboy320 | myself |
| 01:26:16 | DrumRMboy320 | i turned it in with hold |
| 01:26:22 | LinusN | TiMiD: could you disable the wraparound in the settings? |
| 01:26:25 | DrumRMboy320 | hit reset when it turned on |
| 01:26:30 | DrumRMboy320 | and now ot worksd |
| 01:26:34 | DrumRMboy320 | without hold |
| 01:26:35 | LinusN | DrumRMboy320: good |
| 01:26:40 | DrumRMboy320 | :) |
| 01:26:48 | LinusN | do you want to try an experimental boot loader? |
| 01:26:53 | DrumRMboy320 | me? |
| 01:27:03 | LinusN | one that turns on correctly |
| 01:27:33 | DrumRMboy320 | well, its not a problem after first start up... |
| 01:27:44 | LinusN | really? |
| 01:28:20 | DrumRMboy320 | yea, works fine after first start up |
| 01:28:26 | LinusN | weird |
| 01:28:31 | DrumRMboy320 | i was using it all the time after ourt first fix |
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| 01:30:35 | DocBrown | Hi. I heard experimental bootloader? |
| 01:31:08 | BBub | lol |
| 01:31:35 | LinusN | DocBrown: :-) |
| 01:31:46 | LinusN | i have you the link, didn't i? |
| 01:31:51 | LinusN | gave |
| 01:32:36 | DocBrown | i think it's at the old place? linus.haxx... |
| 01:32:43 | LinusN | yes |
| 01:32:54 | LinusN | it's the same as then |
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| 01:33:13 | LinusN | i haven't made a new one |
| 01:33:20 | DocBrown | I'll try it |
| 01:34:01 | DocBrown | I think this is the one that fixes the problem, right? I didn't have it up to now |
| 01:34:33 | DrumRMboy320 | Linus, thank you for helpin me out BTW ;) i just hope you either make it work the first time( :P ) or just dont release anymore |
| 01:34:55 | DrumRMboy320 | ;) |
| 01:38:03 | DimaTech | Hey guys,. Anyone know anything about chargers? |
| 01:38:23 | DimaTech | I have a charger. I don't want to buy any other chargers. Can I charge with this charger any batteries of the same checmical? |
| 01:39:49 | DocBrown | LinusN: Yeah, seems to work fine. And i think you would need a stopwatch to notice the difference in booting time |
| 01:40:49 | DimaTech | My charger says it charges AA or AAA I-C^3 betteries in 15 mins but also charger regular NiMH or NiCD batteries |
| 01:41:02 | DimaTech | So I can charge any NiMH batteries with it right? |
| 01:41:54 | LinusN | DimaTech: since it says it can... |
| 01:42:43 | DocBrown | LinusN: Does the same setting work for the healthy H300s? |
| 01:43:19 | LinusN | yes |
| 01:43:43 | LinusN | i wouldn't call your h300 unhealthy |
| 01:44:12 | LinusN | it's just that i know too little about the hardware to do it right... |
| 01:45:38 | DocBrown | Well, if the extra 50 ms is the only problem with the slightly different hardware, ther is no 'big' problem i think |
| 01:45:54 | LinusN | nope |
| 01:46:33 | DocBrown | The only thing I've noticed so far is a flickering in the WPS screen. But i would expect that to happen on all H300s |
| 01:47:10 | DocBrown | WPS screen is kinda double :-) |
| 01:47:38 | LinusN | the lcd driver is awfully slow atm |
| 01:49:44 | DocBrown | Unfortunately my programming knowledge is limited to FORTRAN atm (scientific computing). I should learn some C. Would really like to get involved, though time is limited :-( |
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| 01:50:09 | DocBrown | So i'll stay with the testing job... |
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| 02:00 |
| 02:04:14 | LinusN | Ok, H300 bootloader V3 is out, please try it |
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| 02:05:37 | Midgey34 | LinusN: is this just a fix for the black screened users? |
| 02:05:44 | LinusN | yes |
| 02:05:57 | Midgey34 | nothing else new? |
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| 02:08:22 | LinusN | no |
| 02:08:37 | LinusN | i'm struggling with the usb mode |
| 02:10:30 | XavierGr | LinusN: Any interesting info about the H300_DRM_Key.hex? |
| 02:10:40 | LinusN | i haven't had time to look at it |
| 02:11:00 | XavierGr | Your quick opinion? Do you have of an idea what is this? |
| 02:11:22 | LinusN | it *could* be a version that is able to restore the drm key |
| 02:14:52 | Midgey34 | LinusN: do expect to ever be supporting 1.04US? or is the version released still not considered official |
| 02:16:02 | LinusN | it's not considered unofficial, but i won't release a patcher that kills the drm |
| 02:16:02 | Midgey34 | add a "you" in there between do and expect |
| 02:16:15 | Midgey34 | oh so that will kill it? |
| 02:16:23 | Midgey34 | do they use a checksum to verify? |
| 02:16:26 | LinusN | i don't know yet |
| 02:16:31 | Midgey34 | ah ok |
| 02:16:47 | LinusN | i'll look into the rdm issue when i find the time |
| 02:17:11 | LinusN | until then, i'll let the drm losers have their 1.04 |
| 02:18:05 | LinusN | i have a drm player here, for this very purpose |
| 02:18:22 | LinusN | what i don't have is time |
| 02:20:18 | LinusN | gotta get some sleep, 2:20am here |
| 02:20:25 | Midgey34 | alright |
| 02:20:27 | LinusN | nite folx |
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| 02:26:34 | DocBrown | Just patched my 'black-screen-H300' with Bootloader v3 and 1.29 K now it works as expected. Hooray! |
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| 02:40:27 | max | G'morning everyone? |
| 02:42:34 | CheeseBurgerMan | Well, morning. |
| 02:42:47 | CheeseBurgerMan | Even though it's 8:40PM here. ;) |
| 02:43:33 | max | Well, close enough. |
| 02:44:05 | max | I think I'd like to help with the iPod port effort. I have some experience with low level hardware and real time kernel development |
| 02:47:06 | | Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 02:47:10 | CheeseBurgerMan | I'm not the one to speak to. |
| 02:47:13 | CheeseBurgerMan | I'm not a dev. |
| 02:47:49 | max | Well, it's out to the channel in general, in case one is here :) |
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| 03:20:57 | Kyl3 | server -m irc.zuh.net |
| 03:21:02 | Kyl3 | oops |
| 03:21:04 | Kyl3 | ;P |
| 03:22:27 | DrumRMboy320 | haha, planning a visit to misticriver? |
| 03:22:28 | Kyl3 | How would you install a patch if it had a .diff extension? I'm trying to install the H300 LCD remote patch |
| 03:22:43 | Kyl3 | Yes. |
| 03:22:48 | Kyl3 | =p |
| 03:23:01 | DrumRMboy320 | hey, i see you there ;) |
| 03:23:04 | ashridah | Kyl3: you use a utility called 'patch' to merge the diff in with the source code. |
| 03:23:29 | Kyl3 | You have to compile the source? Damn. |
| 03:23:36 | ashridah | patch -p1 < /path/to/diff when you're in the top level of the source tree usually does the trick. |
| 03:23:41 | ashridah | Kyl3: it's not a binary patch, no. |
| 03:23:59 | Kyl3 | oh so.. link? |
| 03:25:32 | Kyl3 | to the patch program |
| 03:25:43 | ashridah | should be part of the dev kit |
| 03:25:50 | ashridah | (assuming that's what you're using) |
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| 03:26:50 | Kyl3 | so i need cygwin and the dev kit? then what? |
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| 03:28:13 | mirak | hi |
| 03:28:22 | mirak | I am drunk |
| 03:28:24 | mirak | a bit |
| 03:28:26 | ashridah | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 03:28:34 | ashridah | Kyl3: that url contains most of it. |
| 03:28:59 | ashridah | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile covers building |
| 03:29:07 | ashridah | patching comes after 'get the source' |
| 03:29:32 | mirak | good night ! :-D |
| 03:29:33 | ashridah | it's not going to be a completely trivial process, it might just be easier to wait until someone's merged it and leech a bleeding edge build |
| 03:30:46 | Kyl3 | I'll wait. I tried compiling the bootloader with 1.29k firwave before it was relesed and it didn't like me. So if anyone would please merge it into a daily/bleeding edge build |
| 03:31:24 | ashridah | easiest to keep an eye on the cvs activity log on www.rockbox.org, or sign up to the cvs mailing list. |
| 03:31:31 | ashridah | either will keep you appraised of activity |
| 03:32:30 | Kyl3 | I see the Dead Syndrome is fixed H300 bootloader: don't turn on the HD too soon :)\ |
| 03:32:53 | ashridah | that's more of a workaround than a fix, isn't it? |
| 03:33:00 | ashridah | ie, we don't know WHY we can't turn it on that early? |
| 03:33:53 | Kyl3 | Yes true. |
| 03:34:05 | Kyl3 | But now it doesnt happen |
| 03:43:45 | Kyl3 | =D it works now! I compiled it in! Now if only I had an H340 to test it on |
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| 03:50:40 | Mikerman | Hey, guys, sorry to bother you with something so trivial, but could someone help with a compiling issue? I'm using CVS, have the updated code, and am having a problem with the new tools setup: where and how do I create the tools to compile? I know you don't make tools in the tools directory now, but where do you do it? The "Simple Guide to Compiling" seems not be erroneous now. |
| 03:51:16 | Mikerman | That is, seems not to be accurate now (although someone had tried to update it). |
| 03:51:30 | ashridah | you run 'make tools' in the same directory you ran ../tools/configure from |
| 03:52:43 | Mikerman | Ah, well that's a step back: where (and how) do I run ../tools/configure? |
| 03:53:09 | Mikerman | (That's not even mentioned now in the "Simple Compiling" guide ...) |
| 03:53:20 | ashridah | make an empty directory one level into the source (ie, you checked out rockbox/, so make rockbox/build or something) |
| 03:53:25 | ashridah | go into build |
| 03:53:30 | ashridah | and run ../tools/configure |
| 03:53:45 | ashridah | select the appropriate options for the platform, type, and language you're building for. |
| 03:53:52 | ashridah | then run make tools |
| 03:53:53 | ashridah | and make |
| 03:53:58 | ashridah | then eventually, make zip |
| 03:56:53 | Mikerman | Ok, now going back to basics, when you say, run ../tools/configure, do you mean simply type in (without quotes) ../tools/configure in my build directory? (And I feel so stupid right now ...) |
| 03:57:01 | * | ashridah nods |
| 03:57:20 | ashridah | that goes up a level, into the tools directory, and runs configure. that creates a custom Makefile |
| 03:57:24 | ashridah | in the current directory |
| 03:57:37 | ashridah | (which is why you don't go into tools to run it) |
| 03:58:14 | Mikerman | Ok, did so, and I get an error message: 1: Syntax error: redirection unexpected1].patch |
| 03:58:38 | Mikerman | Does that mean I have a patch issue? |
| 03:59:08 | ashridah | not necessarily. |
| 03:59:16 | ashridah | you checked out source from cvs? |
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| 04:00:07 | Mikerman | Originally, yes. Applied some patches, and then have been using CVS to update the code without any problems for the last week . . . |
| 04:00:19 | ashridah | hrm |
| 04:00:32 | ashridah | i'm not sure then. if that's an error from configure, it's not one i've seen |
| 04:01:16 | Mikerman | Much as I hate doing it, I wonder if I should just start from scratch, by checking out a whole new set of code. |
| 04:01:57 | Mikerman | (Also, the "Simple Compiling" guide definitely needs to be fixed−−it's not up-to-date with the new tools procedure.) |
| 04:02:20 | ashridah | yes, that happens |
| 04:02:52 | Mikerman | Changes are good, as long as they're documented. ;) |
| 04:03:34 | Mikerman | Well, let me try a clean build a see what happens. Thanks for the troubleshooting, and now I at least know what and where I'm supposed to do things . . . |
| 04:03:42 | Kyl3 | I did it! I made the zip file and did cvs up -dP... and it worked! does that mean when people download the bleeding edges now, the H300 remote patch will be in it? |
| 04:06:18 | ashridah | uh. no |
| 04:06:25 | ashridah | not unless you've got commit access |
| 04:06:31 | ashridah | it's in YOUR build. |
| 04:06:45 | Kyl3 | grrr... well its ok.. |
| 04:06:51 | Kyl3 | since it works. |
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| 04:07:53 | Kyl3 | thanks |
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| 04:47:47 | GeorgesBush | test |
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| 04:58:43 | DrumRMboy320 | what are the 'voice' settings? |
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| 04:59:15 | DrumRMboy320 | san, you know what th e'voice' settings are? |
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| 05:01:14 | DrumRMboy320 | anybody know?? |
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| 05:06:26 | lostlogicx | I just want you all to know that my profiling doohicky compiles. |
| 05:06:33 | lostlogicx | Time to crash my player is tomorrow. |
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| 05:22:07 | baobab68 | anyone still here who was here when linus was last here? |
| 05:22:37 | baobab68 | i'm trying to understand what he means about the lcd changes in bootloader 3, can't work it out from the IRC log |
| 05:23:05 | baobab68 | should i still be looking at turning off the LCD or is it done. i suppose i should flash it and see |
| 05:25:08 | baobab68 | or, is everyone asleep... i suppose it can't be 3:25pm all over the world |
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| 05:30:26 | baobab68 | hi DreamTactix291 |
| 05:32:51 | DreamTactix291 | hello |
| 05:32:57 | DreamTactix291 | i hate internet downtime :| |
| 05:33:11 | DreamTactix291 | DSL company = we don't know why your internet isn't working |
| 05:33:18 | DreamTactix291 | Me = well fix it |
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| 05:35:25 | DrumRMboy320 | how are you on IRC w/o internet? |
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| 05:36:03 | DrumRMboy320 | oh well |
| 05:36:05 | DrumRMboy320 | ima go |
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| 05:37:10 | DreamTactix291 | no, they fixed it |
| 05:37:36 | DreamTactix291 | i was describing my extremely fun phone conversation with them |
| 05:38:09 | DrumRBoy320|Away | lol, ok |
| 05:38:12 | DrumRBoy320|Away | nite all |
| 05:43:45 | DrumRBoy320|Away | Quick question b4 bed... will dropping an english.voice file in root allow for voise opperation menus for the h300? |
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| 05:44:07 | jomtones | hi! |
| 05:44:16 | jomtones | just dropping in from the website... |
| 05:44:16 | DrumRBoy320|Away | hey |
| 05:44:22 | jomtones | any iRiver users here> |
| 05:44:24 | jomtones | ? |
| 05:44:25 | DrumRBoy320|Away | me |
| 05:44:28 | DrumRBoy320|Away | h300 |
| 05:44:29 | jomtones | cool |
| 05:44:42 | Benacool | me |
| 05:44:51 | jomtones | I've got a H140 |
| 05:44:57 | DrumRBoy320|Away | benacool ,you know about voice stuff? |
| 05:45:07 | Benacool | not really sorry |
| 05:45:29 | jomtones | curious to know people's experience of using the rockbox firmware, if any! |
| 05:46:09 | jomtones | I got realy excited when I saw it could do variable speed playback?... |
| 05:46:49 | DrumRBoy320|Away | stock f/w will do this |
| 05:47:03 | jomtones | no way! |
| 05:47:08 | DrumRBoy320|Away | yup |
| 05:47:10 | baobab68 | Bagder: only for wav |
| 05:47:12 | jomtones | on a H140?... |
| 05:47:23 | baobab68 | sorry bagder not for you, for DrumRBoy320|Away |
| 05:47:26 | DrumRBoy320|Away | oh, um, not sure |
| 05:47:28 | DrumRBoy320|Away | yea |
| 05:47:29 | jomtones | ahhh |
| 05:47:32 | jomtones | crap |
| 05:47:42 | DrumRBoy320|Away | sry, i didnt realize |
| 05:47:42 | baobab68 | h140, don't know, h320 guy here |
| 05:47:52 | jomtones | hmmm |
| 05:48:13 | baobab68 | i believe most functions with h1 series are a little more advanced, so maybe vari speed is in there |
| 05:48:37 | jomtones | lemme check the manual, sure I woulda noticed that,,, |
| 05:49:11 | baobab68 | have a look through the menus... it won't be in the manual.... on h320 it was a recently added feature 1.28k i think... |
| 05:49:17 | Benacool | i'm preture they are variable speed playback on h1x0 with new firmwares |
| 05:49:41 | Benacool | baobab68: it's true for the clock |
| 05:49:47 | jomtones | wow |
| 05:49:49 | jomtones | cool |
| 05:49:51 | baobab68 | on h3 series it is in the 'control' menu |
| 05:49:53 | Benacool | pretty sure* |
| 05:51:39 | jomtones | WOW yes it's in there!!! |
| 05:51:41 | jomtones | woopee |
| 05:51:52 | jomtones | I was gonna buy a new player for this :) |
| 05:52:00 | jomtones | that rules... |
| 05:52:34 | baobab68 | but beware on h3 series only works with wav, no other format (or maybe mp3, definitely not with wma or ogg though) |
| 05:52:42 | Benacool | false |
| 05:52:44 | baobab68 | so does it *work* for you? |
| 05:52:58 | baobab68 | Benacool: what's false? |
| 05:53:18 | Benacool | you can modify the playback speed of mp3s |
| 05:53:26 | Benacool | on h3x0 |
| 05:53:38 | baobab68 | "maybe mp3"?? |
| 05:53:59 | Benacool | so not only wav but also mp3 ^^ |
| 05:54:33 | baobab68 | correct "only works with WAV (or maybe mp3)" |
| 05:54:47 | baobab68 | i tried it with wma and ogg and it definitely doesn't |
| 05:55:23 | Benacool | i playing a mp3 on my h320 and i can modify playback spedd ^^ |
| 05:55:41 | jomtones | works with mp3 on H140 |
| 05:55:46 | jomtones | excellent! |
| 05:56:04 | Benacool | don't work on WAV |
| 05:56:06 | jomtones | not much range unfortunately |
| 05:56:12 | Benacool | yea ... |
| 05:56:14 | jomtones | but awesome all the same |
| 05:56:27 | Benacool | but in rockbox it's better I think |
| 05:56:40 | baobab68 | there's speed control in RB? |
| 05:56:49 | Benacool | hor h1x0 yea |
| 05:56:53 | Benacool | for* |
| 05:57:11 | jomtones | cool |
| 05:57:13 | Benacool | maybe not at this time but it's worked on now |
| 05:57:16 | baobab68 | didn't think i had spotted it yet in h3 |
| 05:57:48 | baobab68 | suggestions on best way to pass on some comments to linus, anyone? |
| 05:57:49 | Benacool | <baobab68>: what you haven't spotted? |
| 05:58:01 | baobab68 | Benacool: speed control |
| 05:58:13 | Benacool | yea it's only for h1x0 for now |
| 05:58:43 | jomtones | are things working ok now in the h1x0? |
| 05:58:48 | baobab68 | i know, you said that and i agreed with you above :-) |
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| 05:59:17 | Benacool | <baobab68>: with rockbox ?? |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:00 | DJ00 | hey can anyone answer a quick question for me, i just got my h340 yesterday and ive heard rockbox is good should i change mine h340 to rockbox and what are some of the advantages of having rockbox |
| 06:00:20 | jomtones | baobab - yeah with rockbox |
| 06:01:38 | Benacool | yeah the first builds of rockbox for h1x0 were few months ago and I think it's really stable now |
| 06:01:48 | Benacool | <DJ00>: 2 min |
| 06:02:26 | jomtones | wow |
| 06:02:46 | jomtones | i saw on the website recording was still an issue, and some audio formats? |
| 06:02:53 | Benacool | yea |
| 06:03:23 | Benacool | DJ100: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPortForNoobs |
| 06:03:25 | Benacool | ;-) |
| 06:03:47 | Benacool | you'll learn all you need to know about rockbox for Iriver ^^ |
| 06:04:00 | jomtones | thx ;) |
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| 06:04:32 | Benacool | sure you'll certainly void your waranty and the are some risks but i put it on my h320 and it's really cool |
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| 06:06:21 | DJ00 | Benacool: thanks alot |
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| 06:06:42 | jomtones | back :)... |
| 06:08:17 | baobab68 | i am impressed with RB too. been watching the project for a long time. I *still* think the audio output sounds somehow better than iriver firmware. :-) |
| 06:08:50 | baobab68 | love the crossfade and the customisable WPS and the replaygain |
| 06:09:38 | jomtones | crossfades????... OMG |
| 06:09:55 | jomtones | this is like my dreams come true!... |
| 06:09:57 | Benacool | what is replaygain ? |
| 06:10:01 | Benacool | loll |
| 06:10:05 | baobab68 | customisable 1 to 10 seconds i think it is. |
| 06:10:13 | baobab68 | Benacool: serious? |
| 06:10:27 | jomtones | i wanna make a big list of acronym OMGROFCMFEO! |
| 06:10:42 | baobab68 | what;'s EO - ears out? |
| 06:10:47 | baobab68 | oh, "eyes" |
| 06:10:51 | jomtones | :) |
| 06:10:52 | baobab68 | duh |
| 06:10:52 | jomtones | lol |
| 06:11:18 | jomtones | oh I see - auto-crossfades... |
| 06:11:21 | baobab68 | Benacool: do you want to know what replaygain is or were you joking? |
| 06:11:24 | jomtones | well, that's cool |
| 06:11:44 | Benacool | h ... yea i don't know what is it ... |
| 06:11:53 | Benacool | eh* |
| 06:12:04 | jomtones | now all I need is a friggin 'power-off on the decks pitch-dive and stop' plugin =) |
| 06:13:19 | baobab68 | Benacool: you use third party software (eg I use MediaMonkey). You tell the software what's the loudest db you would like your music to be (I use 89db). |
| 06:13:34 | Benacool | ok okay ^^ |
| 06:13:56 | Benacool | so the firmware normalize the sound output to a certain level ? |
| 06:14:03 | baobab68 | Benacool: and the software goes through and adds a tag to each file to express if it should be played "a bit louder" or "a bit softer" in order to just reach 89db. |
| 06:14:14 | Benacool | ok |
| 06:14:19 | baobab68 | the actual audio data is NOT modified in your files, only adds a tag. |
| 06:14:35 | baobab68 | and then RB reads that tag and 'normalises' the volume on the fly...! |
| 06:14:48 | baobab68 | so you don't get a "loud" song and a soft song. |
| 06:15:01 | Benacool | and how you add this tag ? |
| 06:15:17 | baobab68 | you can read more about the standard at http://www.replaygain.org/ |
| 06:15:51 | baobab68 | as i said, i catalog my music using MediaMonkey. It supports adding replaygain tags, and they're seeming to be working in RB for me. |
| 06:16:04 | baobab68 | www.mediamonkey.org |
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| 06:16:16 | baobab68 | oops, it's .com, sorry |
| 06:17:23 | baobab68 | there are people here who would find my explanation simplistic. |
| 06:17:23 | Benacool | ok hanks |
| 06:17:27 | Benacool | thanks* |
| 06:18:12 | Benacool | your explanations were perfect ;-) |
| 06:18:40 | baobab68 | thanks! |
| 06:19:13 | baobab68 | any h3xx users here at the moment? how are you finding battery life? |
| 06:20:18 | Benacool | after 5 hours the battery metter was at 50% |
| 06:20:31 | Benacool | more than 5 hours in reality |
| 06:20:31 | baobab68 | not bad |
| 06:20:37 | Benacool | yea |
| 06:20:48 | jomtones | wow... |
| 06:20:55 | Benacool | i didn't make any real test |
| 06:21:26 | jomtones | maybe I'll make my next player an Archos to take advantage of this all working perfectly... good idea? |
| 06:21:32 | Benacool | the best thing is to run the battery_test plugin |
| 06:21:39 | baobab68 | i was finding mine eating battery a bit quick, but i just discovered that if i leave the thing along, and stop turning the backlight on, it is *much* better. |
| 06:21:49 | baobab68 | along=alone |
| 06:21:56 | Benacool | at your playe i'll buy a H1x0 or a H3x0 |
| 06:22:12 | Benacool | place* |
| 06:22:22 | DJ00 | ok i got rockbox on my h340 now whats so special about it |
| 06:22:37 | Benacool | hum ... OTF Playlists |
| 06:22:54 | baobab68 | read comments above for some examples of RB improvements |
| 06:22:55 | Benacool | support of many audio formats |
| 06:22:58 | DJ00 | ook |
| 06:23:10 | Benacool | games |
| 06:23:20 | Benacool | (gameboy ....) |
| 06:23:29 | baobab68 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison |
| 06:23:33 | jomtones | yeah? the iRiver is still a lot better than the Archos? Even without perfect Rockbox yet? |
| 06:23:34 | Benacool | lot of plugins |
| 06:23:40 | baobab68 | has a few examples |
| 06:23:42 | Benacool | yea |
| 06:23:54 | baobab68 | jomtones: believe it...! |
| 06:23:58 | jomtones | cool |
| 06:24:10 | baobab68 | jomtones: you can always reboot into iriver fw if you want to play a video |
| 06:24:33 | jomtones | my 140 now says 'upgrading'... :) |
| 06:25:02 | jomtones | so how do I choose which OS to boot into?... |
| 06:25:12 | baobab68 | have you put the rockbox files on the hard drive (.rockbox folder and rockbox.iriver file?) |
| 06:25:20 | jomtones | ahh :) |
| 06:25:29 | jomtones | rushing ahead, I'll RTF! |
| 06:25:34 | baobab68 | it won't boot properly until u do that |
| 06:25:44 | Benacool | you hold Rec and play to boot the original firmware |
| 06:25:57 | baobab68 | once you've done that, play starts rockbox, play+rec starts iriver |
| 06:26:30 | Benacool | plug your player with usb after you have updated the firmware and copy the rckbox files in it |
| 06:26:42 | Benacool | *rockbox |
| 06:26:52 | Benacool | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 06:26:57 | Benacool | lastest builds are there |
| 06:27:11 | Benacool | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 06:27:22 | Benacool | (this link is at the bottom of the page) |
| 06:29:36 | Benacool | something wrong ? |
| 06:30:01 | baobab68 | jomtones: working ok? |
| 06:30:08 | jomtones | 1 sec! :) |
| 06:30:26 | jomtones | we are ONLINE! |
| 06:30:52 | jomtones | awesome |
| 06:31:05 | jomtones | now I just have to work out how to use it :) |
| 06:31:11 | jomtones | thanks guys! |
| 06:31:18 | Benacool | it's nothing ^^ |
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| 06:32:55 | jomtones | looks nice... |
| 06:33:03 | jomtones | can it record mp3 already? |
| 06:33:13 | Lost-ash | no, only to wav atm |
| 06:33:34 | Lost-ash | we don't have an on-the-fly encoding framework yet |
| 06:33:46 | jomtones | ok |
| 06:34:06 | jomtones | shame, the live monitoring is cool |
| 06:34:25 | jomtones | what a pity the rockbox team aren't working for iRiver! |
| 06:34:51 | Lost-ash | it'll get done eventually, although it might work for some other codec than mp3 first. (possibly a lossless one) |
| 06:34:58 | jomtones | it's so shocking that teams of enthusiasts put together stuff that's so much better than paid engineers.... |
| 06:36:00 | Lost-ash | jomtones: rockbox's been in development for a fair while, on the archos platform. |
| 06:36:50 | Lost-ash | a lot of infrastructure came from there, filesystem drivers, disk i/o, button framework, lcd framework, plugins, etc. |
| 06:37:10 | Lost-ash | it's only since the iriver came along that they've had the need (and the capability to do) software decoding |
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| 06:37:45 | jomtones | mm |
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| 06:37:48 | jomtones | ok |
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| 06:41:32 | Benacool | goodnight everybody ! |
| 06:41:44 | jomtones | ok i gotta sleep! nearly 6am here...:) |
| 06:41:47 | baobab68 | Benacool: gn |
| 06:41:49 | Benacool | lol |
| 06:41:51 | Benacool | ok ^^ |
| 06:41:57 | Benacool | gn |
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| 06:42:05 | jomtones | (just back from the club)... |
| 06:42:21 | jomtones | :) |
| 06:42:25 | jomtones | nice one, gn |
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| 07:12:22 | Lost-ash | DrumRBoy320|Away: if you read this, the voice stuff is spoken menus and filenames, useful for vision impared. |
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| 10:10:50 | joker | was the removal of the quick repeat, shuffle menu intentional in the latest build? |
| 10:11:02 | joker | or am I the only one who can't access it? |
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| 10:17:02 | Zak1392 | hey |
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| 10:21:42 | Zak1392 | anyone? |
| 10:24:00 | * | Lost-ash watches the tumbleweed |
| 10:24:04 | | Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (n=ashridah@69.55.227.55) |
| 10:24:21 | markun | morning all |
| 10:25:25 | joker | morning markun |
| 10:25:58 | Zak1392 | morning? |
| 10:26:15 | joker | not everyone lives in your time zone ;) |
| 10:26:16 | markun | Zak1392: yes, it is here. Where are you from? |
| 10:29:54 | Zak1392 | oz |
| 10:29:55 | markun | Australia. Not exactly morning then no :) |
| 10:30:14 | Zak1392 | 8pm |
| 10:30:37 | Zak1392 | is there any way to write text files in h300 rockbox? |
| 10:31:16 | markun | no, I don't think there is an editor plugin |
| 10:31:54 | joker | oh, my previous question |
| 10:32:05 | joker | (04:10:51) _ < joker > was the removal of the quick repeat, shuffle menu intentional in the latest build? |
| 10:32:27 | joker | or... where did it move to, I can't find it |
| 10:32:36 | Zak1392 | here's what i read in the h300 color plugins topic on mistic river: "for the topic: PLEASE put an rockword in it, the thing they put in is HORRIBLE!!!!! cant do anything, it even freezes while typing!" and "in rockbox there already is a calculator (scientific) (not adjusted properly to bigger screen) and a wordpad plugin (no formatting though just.txt) but no paint" |
| 10:33:16 | ashridah | Zak1392: might be accessible via a viewer |
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| 10:33:32 | ashridah | joker: not sure, i don't remember seeing any references to that in recent cvs. |
| 10:34:35 | joker | ashridah: oh |
| 10:34:50 | ashridah | how did you get to it normally? |
| 10:34:58 | joker | can someone please test to see if it was indeed moved somewhere |
| 10:34:58 | * | ashridah doesn't have his unit handy, bbs |
| 10:35:21 | joker | by holding on the a/b button or the record button |
| 10:35:36 | joker | I forgot which one, but I know it was on the right of the h3xx |
| 10:35:52 | joker | after like a 3 secs hold that menu comes up |
| 10:36:35 | * | ashridah grabs a bleeding edge build |
| 10:37:10 | joker | thx ashridah |
| 10:37:49 | ashridah | holding A-B while it's playing definently shows up with a shuffle/repeat thinggy for yesterday's bleeding edge stuff |
| 10:37:59 | Zak1392 | works for me |
| 10:38:15 | joker | Zak1392: latest bleeding edge? |
| 10:38:33 | Zak1392 | well, about an hour ago |
| 10:38:42 | joker | hmm |
| 10:38:57 | joker | ok, let me re-grab it then |
| 10:39:03 | joker | mine was about 5hrs ago |
| 10:40:02 | ashridah | god window's fat32 driver sucks |
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| 10:40:25 | ashridah | unpacking in linux takes about 3 seconds. :) |
| 10:41:18 | t0mas | hi |
| 10:41:20 | Slasheri | Hmm, i just started designing a tagcache. I am not sure if it will ever work (there are still some small minor issues), but if it does it allows transparent building of the tag database inside rockbox |
| 10:41:32 | t0mas | sounds cool |
| 10:41:33 | ashridah | joker: definently works here. |
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| 10:41:41 | t0mas | ashridah: talking about slow cygwin? |
| 10:41:46 | ashridah | t0mas: no |
| 10:41:49 | t0mas | k |
| 10:42:07 | t0mas | 3 secs in linux -> 30 in win/cygwin |
| 10:42:22 | t0mas | is my experience.... especially with the devkit for some reason |
| 10:42:35 | ashridah | 3 seconds to unzip rockbox.zip to the unit vs about 30 to unpack it on windows from a download of the bleeding edge |
| 10:43:06 | joker | ashridah: ...? I just grabbed the latest bleeding edge |
| 10:43:18 | joker | it still is not working |
| 10:44:15 | ashridah | don't know what to tell you. it's definently a recent copy. |
| 10:44:19 | joker | when I hold the ab button down, the time remaining, time playing numbers twiches back and forth |
| 10:44:24 | ashridah | try clearing your config? (save it to a .cfg first) |
| 10:45:58 | joker | ok, I just did that, it isn't working still |
| 10:46:21 | joker | maybe this is related to the h3xx build only? |
| 10:48:10 | Jungti1234 | hooou |
| 10:48:14 | joker | ashridah: ah, it doesn't come up while playing |
| 10:48:22 | joker | I thought it used to come up while playing |
| 10:48:41 | joker | it does however come up when not playing |
| 10:49:47 | ashridah | it does here |
| 10:49:57 | ashridah | while playing and while in the filebrowser |
| 10:51:00 | joker | weird |
| 10:51:37 | joker | while playing, whenever I hold it down, the numbers skips back and forth, and that's about all it does |
| 10:52:32 | ashridah | which model of player is this? |
| 10:52:47 | joker | I have an h340 |
| 10:53:25 | ashridah | odd. i'm using a 140, we need a h3x0 person to verify this |
| 10:54:17 | joker | yes we do :( |
| 10:54:20 | Zak1392 | can't do it now. listening to music on my comp |
| 10:54:34 | Zak1392 | i'll pause it |
| 10:56:22 | Zak1392 | just did it. does the same thing joker said |
| 10:57:55 | ashridah | odd |
| 10:57:56 | joker | yay, I'm not daft |
| 10:58:09 | ashridah | joker do you know how long ago it worked? |
| 10:58:34 | joker | just yesterday or the day before that it still worked |
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| 11:00:34 | ashridah | hrm. can't think of any changes that might have done it. one of the devs might know better. |
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| 11:01:59 | Zak1392 | is it a problem for you joker? |
| 11:02:11 | Zak1392 | it doesn't really bother me |
| 11:02:23 | joker | yes, a nuisance since I use it kind of often |
| 11:03:51 | Zak1392 | here's yesterdays build: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h300/rockbox-h300-20051202.zip |
| 11:04:04 | Zak1392 | day before: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h300/rockbox-h300-20051201.zip |
| 11:04:20 | ashridah | Zak1392: we really need commit-by-commit builds, so we can work out which one does it. |
| 11:04:22 | Zak1392 | it might fix it |
| 11:04:30 | ashridah | unfortunately, i'm about 1000k's from my dev environment |
| 11:04:43 | ashridah | and i have crap bandwidth there anyway |
| 11:04:50 | joker | Zak1392: yeah, I'll downgrade |
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| 11:06:28 | Acksaw | anyone got a 1.29k rockbox h300 build they can send me? |
| 11:06:47 | Zak1392 | huh? |
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| 11:07:44 | Acksaw | a rockbox firmware build with 1.29k on it.. |
| 11:08:21 | Zak1392 | why? |
| 11:08:27 | Zak1392 | isn't that not allowed? |
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| 11:08:30 | Acksaw | fwpatcher doesnt agree with my pc |
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| 11:08:40 | Acksaw | why wouldnt it be alowed? |
| 11:09:01 | Zak1392 | fwpatchernu? |
| 11:09:05 | Zak1392 | tried that? |
| 11:09:07 | Acksaw | yeh |
| 11:09:14 | Acksaw | of course i have |
| 11:09:19 | Acksaw | i tried everything |
| 11:09:24 | Acksaw | it did this last time |
| 11:09:31 | Acksaw | was solved with being sent a patched fw |
| 11:09:35 | joker | Acksaw: I can send you the patched bootloader if you want |
| 11:10:21 | Acksaw | 1.29k? |
| 11:10:26 | joker | yes |
| 11:10:30 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:10:34 | Acksaw | ill accept in about 5 minutes |
| 11:10:37 | Acksaw | wanna test mine again |
| 11:11:25 | joker | ok |
| 11:11:45 | joker | all daily builds in december have that bug |
| 11:11:58 | * | joker is gonna try nov's builds |
| 11:13:02 | joker | Acksaw: tell me when you want it |
| 11:13:41 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:13:44 | Acksaw | im testing it now... |
| 11:14:04 | Acksaw | upgrading.. |
| 11:14:06 | * | Zak1392 can't find H300.hex |
| 11:14:43 | * | Zak1392 smacks himself in the head. |
| 11:15:00 | Acksaw | looks like its working |
| 11:15:03 | Acksaw | version 3 |
| 11:15:27 | Acksaw | ok |
| 11:15:29 | Acksaw | its working |
| 11:15:30 | Acksaw | thanks all |
| 11:18:07 | Zak1392 | YOUR WELCOME! |
| 11:18:16 | Zak1392 | oops |
| 11:18:36 | Zak1392 | damn caps lock :( |
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| 11:22:38 | joker | heh, I thought you needed it |
| 11:22:38 | joker | ok, nov 30th build doesn't work either |
| 11:22:38 | joker | I could have sworn it was working about 2,3 days ago |
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| 11:24:49 | ghode|afk | does anyone know if there is a file in the rockbox zip that shows the date/time of the build? |
| 11:29:09 | JdGordon | haha morse code in the virtual keyboard :D |
| 11:32:18 | Zak1392 | how? |
| 11:33:22 | JdGordon | dunno.. but from the cvs log "iRiver: Added initial support for standard morse code input to virtual keyboard." |
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| 11:52:19 | Bger | it should work with short and long presses of the select button (joy push) |
| 11:54:13 | Bger | hm |
| 11:55:35 | Bger | but it's not enabled |
| 11:55:57 | Bger | and there's not setting for it yet |
| 11:56:23 | JdGordon | short and long presses would take too long |
| 11:56:31 | JdGordon | y not 1 button for short and 1 for long |
| 11:56:57 | JdGordon | anyway, im off, bbl |
| 11:57:07 | Bger | depends on how long is "long" |
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| 12:01:48 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 12:02:22 | ep0ch| | Slasheri: are you here? I think i've figured out how to replicate a playback bug i mentioned a week ago |
| 12:02:41 | Slasheri | ep0ch|: yes :) |
| 12:02:48 | Jungti1234 | It's snowing! |
| 12:02:51 | ep0ch| | oh good |
| 12:03:20 | ep0ch| | Slasheri: i'm using Vorbis, no crossfade, replaygain on |
| 12:03:39 | Jungti1234 | It may snow more |
| 12:04:35 | ep0ch| | Slasheri: go into a directory, go straight to the last song in that dir, let it buffer, hit previous let it buffer, hit next,let it buffer, hit previous and then playback will stop |
| 12:04:59 | Slasheri | ep0ch|: ah, interesting, thanks :) i will try soon |
| 12:05:12 | ep0ch| | using a build as of 10 mins ago btw |
| 12:07:35 | Slasheri | ep0ch|: hehe, i was able to reproduce that :) |
| 12:08:36 | ep0ch| | ah good, took me a while to figure out how to replicate it! |
| 12:08:43 | Slasheri | =) |
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| 12:28:04 | Jungti1234 | Is Europe very cold now? |
| 12:28:49 | Slasheri | ep0ch|: i found the bug :) |
| 12:28:52 | Slasheri | fixing.. |
| 12:29:06 | ep0ch| | nice one |
| 12:29:14 | muesli_- | re |
| 12:29:20 | * | muesli_- smacks Jungti1234 around a bit with a fat cow |
| 12:29:22 | muesli_- | yes :D |
| 12:30:08 | Jungti1234 | The Asia is very cold, too. |
| 12:30:41 | muesli_- | where are you from`? asia is huge |
| 12:30:51 | Jungti1234 | Korea |
| 12:31:07 | Jungti1234 | Coldness of Europe called on early because of unusual change of weather. |
| 12:31:17 | ep0ch| | London isnt that cold at the moment, but it is raining though of course ;) |
| 12:31:46 | muesli_- | as usual ;) |
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| 12:32:06 | Jungti1234 | ep0ch|: Does the Britain rain always? |
| 12:32:26 | Jungti1234 | Britain = England |
| 12:32:29 | ep0ch| | well it rains a lot in the north |
| 12:32:43 | Jungti1234 | ah.. |
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| 12:35:11 | muesli_- | moooos |
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| 12:47:39 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Nice idea for tagcache - I hope it becomes a reality. |
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| 13:14:39 | Slasheri | ep0ch|: fixed |
| 13:15:17 | Slasheri | linuxstb: yeah, at least at the moment it seems possible to do (i have already some code i am testing with) |
| 13:16:51 | ep0ch| | ta |
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| 13:25:21 | leftright | Hi Slasheri, hows things |
| 13:26:03 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hi :) fine, thanks. Just investigating how tagcache could be implemented |
| 13:27:42 | leftright | I had that same hanging bug that epoch reported, but I couldn' reproduce it, |
| 13:28:23 | Slasheri | ah, now it should have been fixed |
| 13:28:40 | leftright | thanks |
| 13:29:01 | Slasheri | the problem was that at the end of playlist, buffer filling code was disabled. And when user tried to seek beginning of the track (rebuffering needed), nothing happened |
| 13:30:56 | ashridah | Slasheri: you don't have a H3xx yet do you? |
| 13:31:08 | Slasheri | ashridah: nope :/ |
| 13:31:29 | leftright | gapless is ok during normal playback without seeking, as preglow pointed out, somehow seeking or ffwd breaks gapless |
| 13:32:02 | Slasheri | yep.. probably the sample counter goes wrong |
| 13:32:03 | ashridah | ah. someone's reported a bug where holding a-b while music is playing doesn't trigger the normal shuffle/repeat screen |
| 13:32:11 | ashridah | it works on my H1xx with a bleeding edge |
| 13:32:15 | ashridah | but not on the H3xx |
| 13:32:26 | ashridah | started failing in the last day |
| 13:32:27 | Slasheri | hmm, weird |
| 13:32:32 | ashridah | can't see any obvious cvs changes that'd do it |
| 13:33:23 | leftright | ashridah: I have just tried it and the quick menu works fine during playback |
| 13:33:39 | Moos | Slasheri: hi, I'm wondered if the fact of gapless not full yet make your Crossfade poped? |
| 13:34:11 | leftright | H140 user |
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| 13:34:24 | Slasheri | Moos: that shouldn't cause the problem.. there is some bug(s) with the crossfader code |
| 13:34:39 | Moos | a ok thanks :) |
| 13:34:45 | Slasheri | i haven't yet managed to find them |
| 13:35:02 | Moos | is not a priority for you? :) |
| 13:35:21 | Slasheri | not the highest priorities at the moment ;) |
| 13:35:26 | Slasheri | but it will be fixed |
| 13:35:38 | Moos | always lot of things in progress XD |
| 13:35:51 | Slasheri | it just requires much of time.. also more options to the crossfader should be implemented |
| 13:35:56 | Slasheri | :) |
| 13:36:08 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 13:36:36 | Moos | your Crossfade is probably one of the best playback feature, thanks again for it |
| 13:36:51 | ashridah | leftright: yeah, it works for the H1xx, just not for at least two people with the H3xx |
| 13:37:31 | Moos | Slasheri: the triggering volume thing for Crossafed would be really candy |
| 13:38:03 | Slasheri | Moos: yep, that will come later :) |
| 13:38:25 | Moos | let's hope on it :D |
| 13:40:11 | Moos | Slasheri: is your playback engine used in the H3xx too? |
| 13:40:49 | ashridah | it's shared between all software-codec capable units |
| 13:41:14 | Slasheri | Moos: yes, it's the very same engine (used by all software codec platforms) |
| 13:41:22 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 13:41:29 | Moos | thanks for info |
| 13:41:44 | leftright | crossfade if shuffled is a very neat feature, |
| 13:42:56 | Moos | here always Crossfade, I coulldn't live without :) |
| 13:43:58 | leftright | hmm, I like to hear some albums without crossfade, ie gapless, but if its a various compilation or shuffled then I use crossfade |
| 13:44:28 | leftright | lotsa config switching :) |
| 13:44:45 | Moos | is it's true when I listening one DJ disc, the DJ make the crossfade with his hands |
| 13:44:56 | ashridah | Moos: yes |
| 13:45:24 | ashridah | they often beatsync it too, so they fiddle with the pitch of the next song until the beats are in time and at the same rate |
| 13:46:13 | Moos | I love DJ works when they are good ones |
| 13:46:15 | ashridah | takes skill to do that right, particularly with vinyl |
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| 13:49:47 | aliask | No arguments from me, I tried it once, and was bad enough never to try again. :) |
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| 13:56:42 | petur | any cygwin/insight user around? |
| 13:57:52 | petur | running the win32 sim in Insight causes all console messages to come up as messageboxes. very annoying. |
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| 14:03:11 | petur | question: when building the sim I get a rockbox.zip as well, but not when building for target (3x0) |
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| 14:04:53 | * | petur reads the wiki and is building his zip ;) |
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| 14:56:03 | lostlogicx | ooh, new bootloader, and new firmwarend new rockbox build going on my player today |
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| 15:29:34 | Rob2222_ | Can the H1x0 RB move files on HD? |
| 15:37:23 | lostlogicx | Oooh, I think it might actually be profiling! |
| 15:37:27 | lostlogicx | we'll find out in a lil' while. |
| 15:41:45 | preglow | oh? |
| 15:42:12 | JdGordon | any1 tested the new h300 boot loadeR? |
| 15:42:27 | lostlogicx | JdGordon: yes, using it |
| 15:42:36 | JdGordon | with 1.29? |
| 15:42:39 | lostlogicx | preglow: well it's running slow like it's profiling but I didn't get a file output. |
| 15:42:42 | lostlogicx | :( |
| 15:42:46 | lostlogicx | but I must be pretty close to something working. |
| 15:45:56 | preglow | well, should profiling slow it down too much? |
| 15:46:11 | lostlogicx | changing from relative "profile.out" to absolute "/profile.out" |
| 15:46:12 | lostlogicx | preglow: yes. |
| 15:46:19 | preglow | Bagder: here? |
| 15:47:03 | lostlogicx | preglow: 1) it executes a timer function every 1ms or so and 2) it executes two extra function calls for _every_ function call during profiling, one of which has between 10 and 100 instructions in it and the other between 5 and 20. |
| 15:47:10 | petur | JdGordon: H3x0 bootloader with 1.29eu works here just fine |
| 15:47:52 | JdGordon | is there any real point going to the v3 fw? |
| 15:47:56 | preglow | btw, i actually get _gaps_ between some of my .ogg tracks now |
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| 15:47:58 | JdGordon | if im happy with 1.28 |
| 15:47:58 | preglow | anyone else? |
| 15:48:29 | lostlogicx | like gaps you didn't used to get? |
| 15:48:33 | petur | v3 is supposed to fix the bootproblems some have, and turn off the LCD when backlight is off |
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| 15:48:38 | preglow | lostlogicx: yes |
| 15:48:41 | ghode|afk | preglow: i think someone posted on the forums about ogg as well |
| 15:48:47 | ghode|afk | ah LEar, just in time :p |
| 15:49:01 | Lear | Oh? |
| 15:49:29 | ghode|afk | nm :p |
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| 15:50:34 | preglow | ghode|afk: well, i can't find it |
| 15:52:26 | lostlogicx | *sigh* why isn't it writing the file? |
| 15:53:10 | ghode|afk | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2000.0 - Musicmad mentions problems with ogg |
| 15:53:16 | Slasheri | hehe, initial tag cache building succeeded. It took about 10 minutes on background while music was playing :) |
| 15:53:21 | preglow | lostlogicx: you didn't forget O_CREAT, i hope? :P |
| 15:53:42 | preglow | Slasheri: many files`? |
| 15:53:51 | Slasheri | preglow: about 5000 |
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| 15:54:50 | lostlogicx | preglow: I did not forget O_CREAT |
| 15:55:07 | Slasheri | in future it should be possible to browse by tags without needing external tools to build tagdb |
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| 15:55:09 | lostlogicx | more likely my profstop() function isn't getting called on stop press for one reason or another. |
| 15:55:22 | chendo | i've compiled my own uisimulator using cross-compiling on linux and rockboxui runs when i put my .rockbox dir into archos, but the screen just stays empty apart from the things at the top and it chews up 100% cpu |
| 15:55:24 | preglow | Slasheri: i'd love it if the same code base was used for both on- and off target building |
| 15:55:26 | chendo | am i doing anything wrong |
| 15:55:37 | Lear | Build question: Shouldn't codecs/Makefile include the depfile it creates? |
| 15:55:53 | Lear | chendo: why cross-compile the ui simulator? |
| 15:56:03 | chendo | because i don't have VC++ |
| 15:56:10 | Slasheri | preglow: i doubt that will be possible, because tagdb depends on disk and tagcache uses just ram when it's fully loaded |
| 15:56:19 | chendo | i have nmake, but it errors out chronically |
| 15:56:29 | Slasheri | and tagcache needs also dircache to function |
| 15:56:31 | chendo | so, the whole thing runs fine, cept it just has a blank screen and chews 100% cpu |
| 15:56:33 | Lear | and try using the keys; the display will be empty if there are no files in the archos folder (except perhaps .rockbox) |
| 15:57:03 | JonSenior | OK. Still having issues with disassembling the iRiver firmware. |
| 15:57:21 | JonSenior | Has anyone managed to get blocks of usable code out of the H300? |
| 15:57:23 | chendo | ah, that works |
| 15:57:30 | chendo | but it still chews up 100% CPU :( |
| 15:57:32 | Lear | ah, so you cross-compile rather than install cygwin on windows or run the ui simulator on linux? :) |
| 15:57:40 | JonSenior | I seem to have it, and then I hit a jump to a non-existant location! |
| 15:58:10 | Lear | yes, that's normal, unfortunately. Once upon a time (some months ago) it didn't use 100% CPU, but I haven't looked much as to why it does now... |
| 15:58:14 | chendo | Lear: well, i have a linux server |
| 15:58:16 | chendo | no UI |
| 15:58:20 | chendo | er, screen, whatever |
| 15:58:26 | chendo | and cygwin requires setting up ;p |
| 15:58:30 | chendo | or whatever |
| 15:59:42 | Slasheri | preglow: so tagdb could work on all targets and tagcache would be limited on targets with more ram.. |
| 15:59:57 | Lear | chendo: the win32 version of yield() probably needs a tweak or two, but it isn't quite that easy if music playback should continue working... |
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| 16:00:28 | preglow | so, no one knows why i get gaps with ogg files some times? |
| 16:01:04 | Lear | ARE there gaps? Seems like musicmad wasn't sure? |
| 16:01:11 | preglow | great, big, intrusive gaps |
| 16:01:15 | preglow | well, i am sure |
| 16:01:16 | Lear | Sorry, didn't read you close enough. :) |
| 16:01:22 | Slasheri | preglow: Hmm, some times? |
| 16:01:24 | preglow | i know which albums aren't supposed to have gaps |
| 16:01:38 | preglow | well, yeah, there aren't always gaps |
| 16:01:41 | preglow | which is a bit strange |
| 16:01:44 | Slasheri | interesting |
| 16:01:49 | preglow | it's a new problem as well |
| 16:01:51 | preglow | i've never had it before |
| 16:01:52 | JdGordon | w00t succesefully flashed to v3 |
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| 16:03:36 | Lear | Just tried one Ogg transition, and that worked just fine.. |
| 16:04:52 | Lear | Hm.. Don't think I like that double-click left/right thingy... A bit too easy to trigger by mistake... |
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| 16:08:28 | JonSenior | Another question then... using objdump to disassemble the code I get references to registers which are given as numerical values... |
| 16:08:46 | JonSenior | ... rather than register names: 3086 3087. |
| 16:09:11 | JonSenior | I'm assuming from the code around them that they are registers, but that objdump doesn't know what they're called. |
| 16:09:40 | JonSenior | I've yet to find the information in the manual to explain how to go from machine code to register names |
| 16:09:44 | JonSenior | Any ideas? |
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| 16:10:09 | Lear | Objdump doesn't understand the opcodes and shows you incorrect information? |
| 16:11:11 | JonSenior | No. It gives a correct disassemble, but doesn't seem to know what certain register values are called. |
| 16:11:19 | JonSenior | At least... it seems to. |
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| 16:11:39 | lostlogicx | If anyone is interested in trying to help me figure out why writing out the profiling results isn't happening: lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox_profile.patch">http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox_profile.patch and Makefile.patch (to patch the configure generated makefile to turn on profiling) |
| 16:11:46 | Lear | preglow, I've tested a couple of tracks now, and I don't hear any problem... |
| 16:12:28 | preglow | Lear: it always happens after having listened to quite a few tracks first |
| 16:12:36 | preglow | it MIGHT be some kind of buffering glitch, actually |
| 16:16:22 | preglow | and btw, does buffering take into account resampling when it decides when to start buffering? |
| 16:16:39 | preglow | the remaining buffer might vanish faster than it thinks |
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| 16:18:58 | preglow | man, motor faders are fun! |
| 16:19:21 | eli_sherer | people, RockWord is on the move... |
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| 16:21:30 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 16:22:00 | linuxstb | Lear: Is a chained Ogg file simply created by doing "cat 1.ogg 2.ogg 3.ogg > all.ogg" ? |
| 16:22:04 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer: really? |
| 16:22:27 | Lear | linuxstb: yes. |
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| 16:23:04 | Lear | doesn't play in rockbox though (but perhaps you knew that already...). :/ |
| 16:23:30 | linuxstb | Is it worth adding support for them to Rockbox? Is that a common thing for people to do with their Oggs? |
| 16:24:18 | linuxstb | I'm assuming that it's also perfectly legal to have different codecs in the different Ogg files concatenated together. |
| 16:24:33 | Lear | Not that common, afaik, but it isn't easy to add right now. Getting them to play should be real easy, if we can reset the malloc buf in some easy way, but seek/tags are worse... |
| 16:24:42 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer: I want to use it. |
| 16:24:57 | Lear | Not sure about that; don't remember having read anything about it (either way) though... |
| 16:26:08 | linuxstb | Lear: I've started writing an Ogg parser for use by the vorbis, FLAC and hopefully Speex codecs in Rockbox. I didn't like the Tremor or libogg2 versions. |
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| 16:26:44 | DimiBoy | hi guys! |
| 16:27:34 | DimiBoy | i have a few questions about rockbox for h300 can someone help me a little? |
| 16:27:35 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 16:29:02 | DimiBoy | anyone?? |
| 16:29:17 | Jungti1234 | What question? |
| 16:29:23 | Lear | You plan to modify Tremor to use it then? |
| 16:29:43 | Lear | Have you looked at oggz (or whatever it's called)? |
| 16:30:18 | DimiBoy | well i installed today rockbox on my h300 its perfect! but i cant find radio or picture viewing and recording is it me or they are not ready yet? |
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| 16:30:32 | linuxstb | Lear: Yes - I'll try and get both Tremor and FLAC working with it. |
| 16:30:37 | Amar | not ready yet |
| 16:30:39 | Jungti1234 | Not yet |
| 16:30:41 | JonSenior | Got it. Page 274 of the Coldfire PRM contains a mapping of addresses to supervisor state registers. MBAR = 0xC0F (3087) and MBAR2 = 0xC0E (3086) |
| 16:30:41 | preglow | Lear: codec_init() (or whateveR) resets the malloc bug |
| 16:30:43 | preglow | BUF |
| 16:31:01 | DimiBoy | oh ok so everything is good with me |
| 16:31:12 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 16:31:28 | DimiBoy | well no more questions thanks guys! |
| 16:31:32 | preglow | oggz? |
| 16:31:40 | Lear | preglow: Yes, here I think we would in effect need to call it from within Tremor... Not sure though; maybe codecs/vorbis.c could do it. |
| 16:31:40 | linuxstb | Lear: I've looked at liboggz as well - it's full of malloc/realloc etc. |
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| 16:32:39 | linuxstb | I want something very streamlined. |
| 16:32:42 | lostlogicx | Oh, it wrote something out at least, definitely not working right yet though :( |
| 16:32:47 | Lear | Hm... Writing a new ogg parser for our needs makes sense acutally... But the hard part would be to modify vorbisfile.c., methinks... |
| 16:33:24 | linuxstb | Ogg seems a relatively simple format (too simple for my liking). The only painful thing will be seeking. |
| 16:34:33 | preglow | they've managed to write quite a number of code lines to support it |
| 16:34:42 | preglow | so something about it has to be non-straightforward |
| 16:34:44 | Lear | Not a part of Ogg, really. The codec must handle most of it, I think... |
| 16:35:35 | linuxstb | Seeking has nothing to do with what's contained inside the pages - it's purely an Ogg thing IMO. |
| 16:35:38 | Lear | I think it is the gapless support mainly; for that you need to decode a frame partially, to figure out the exact number of samples in it. |
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| 16:36:32 | Lear | But Ogg can't know what's inside the audio packets. Sure, Ogg can to a coarse-grained seek (to the right page). |
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| 16:36:46 | linuxstb | You just decode the whole frame, and then discard the extra samples at the end. |
| 16:37:10 | Lear | Or at the beginning... |
| 16:37:22 | Massa | Hi vereyxbody! |
| 16:37:40 | Massa | Oops, I meant "Hi everybody" |
| 16:38:01 | eli_sherer | Jungti1234: it's really just a prototype... |
| 16:38:30 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 16:38:46 | eli_sherer | no actual writing possible just the gui is more then half working... |
| 16:38:50 | Massa | For me www.rockbox.org is currently unreachable - is it just for me or has anybody else the same problem? |
| 16:39:08 | eli_sherer | massa: nope its fine |
| 16:39:26 | Jungti1234 | ah ok |
| 16:39:36 | linuxstb | Lear: Vorbis streams have extra samples at the start as well? I can't find that mentioned in the docs. |
| 16:39:45 | linuxstb | The docs only mention the final frame. |
| 16:40:03 | Massa | When I enter the address to my browser, it turns it's waiting cursor forever and no page appears :( |
| 16:40:16 | linuxstb | Lear: Sorry, I've just read more about dropping samples. |
| 16:41:09 | Massa | Browser if Firefox 1.5 |
| 16:41:34 | eli_sherer | Jungtil1234: even though my rockpaint isn't very operative i want that at least writing will be possible maybe even backspacing... |
| 16:42:09 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 16:42:20 | Jungti1234 | Rockpaint is difficult. |
| 16:42:27 | lostlogicx | *dances* profiling is in some semblance of working! |
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| 16:42:34 | Jungti1234 | It need many efforts. |
| 16:42:57 | Bger | bbl |
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| 16:43:24 | preglow | Lear: why'd one need to drop samples at the beginning? latency? |
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| 16:44:02 | Lear | Yes, I think so. That's the reason why you need it for MP3 at least. |
| 16:47:39 | preglow | has anyone actually used mp3 in an ogg container? :PPP |
| 16:51:26 | lostlogicx | I wonder if this profiling data will be any good... skipping as much as it is, I fear it may be an inaccurate picture. (basically skips continuously) |
| 16:52:16 | Shaikoten | Is the H300 skip on Ogg Q10 only? |
| 16:52:42 | lostlogicx | Shaikoten: whenever oggs go over about 300 kbps for a sustained time, it skips. |
| 16:52:57 | Shaikoten | OK, cool. I stay at Q8 most of the time. |
| 16:53:05 | preglow | i wouldn't even use that much |
| 16:53:10 | Shaikoten | (These things are important, my repaied H340 will be on my doorstep in about an hour :) |
| 16:53:12 | preglow | vorbis scales pretty badly to high bitrates |
| 16:53:13 | lostlogicx | a lot of my q7s skip during applause |
| 16:53:51 | lostlogicx | preglow: think it's vorbis or rockbox causing the problem? |
| 16:54:11 | preglow | not scale like that |
| 16:54:14 | preglow | it's a rockbox problem |
| 16:54:24 | lostlogicx | *nod* |
| 16:54:28 | preglow | it's just that vorbis quality doesn't improve too rapidly with increasing quality factors |
| 16:54:40 | preglow | it's primarily tunes for lower bitrates |
| 16:54:40 | lostlogicx | yeah, not over 5 from what I've heard |
| 16:54:46 | preglow | i use 5 |
| 16:54:53 | preglow | but i'm starting to think i might want to go 6 |
| 16:55:03 | preglow | what i WANT to do is go musepack, but that can't seek, so there you go |
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| 16:56:57 | lostlogicx | gah, either my recursive writing code, or my linked storing code for profiling is highly botched. |
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| 17:19:13 | eli_sherer | it's about to work |
| 17:19:39 | * | eli_sherer excited |
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| 17:21:47 | lostlogicx | what's RockWork? |
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| 17:25:11 | eli_sherer | rockword...a program im making like word but for iriver h300... |
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| 17:26:03 | lostlogicx | oooh |
| 17:26:03 | lostlogicx | hot |
| 17:27:25 | preglow | man, it'll be slow... |
| 17:27:30 | t0mas | typing |
| 17:27:31 | t0mas | ghehe |
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| 17:27:33 | preglow | make sure you support morse code input |
| 17:27:40 | eli_sherer | done! it's working woohoo!!!!! |
| 17:27:45 | preglow | eli_sherer: screenshots! |
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| 17:28:05 | eli_sherer | i'll release it now on my web then...some screenshots! |
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| 17:29:29 | petur | what's going wrong if rb wont play music (codec failure) with my build? Latest downloaded build works OK. RB itself also OK. |
| 17:30:10 | petur | .rockbox folder with my RB build is OK too |
| 17:30:25 | petur | so it seems to be my build of the codecs |
| 17:31:00 | lostlogicx | preglow: I'm _|_ that close to getting real profiling results. |
| 17:31:03 | eli_sherer | let me sugercoat it first before i release just afew minutes |
| 17:31:55 | Lear | petur: incompatible codecs (api version mismatch). Make sure you buildt and installed them properly. |
| 17:32:24 | petur | did a make, then make install and then copied the lot to my h340 |
| 17:32:51 | petur | clean and rebuild? |
| 17:33:43 | Jungti1234 | I wait him. |
| 17:35:22 | preglow | lostlogicx: sounds good! |
| 17:36:15 | preglow | i'm looking forward to hearing about it |
| 17:36:30 | preglow | but now it's teebee & calyx time, i might pop back tomorrow, later all |
| 17:36:39 | lostlogicx | peace |
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| 17:40:30 | Lear | petur: rebuild might help, yes... |
| 17:41:05 | petur | I *do* hope it's not because of gcc 4.0.2 |
| 17:41:23 | petur | I'm quite sure people wrote here that was OK |
| 17:46:00 | Lear | I've made working builds with 4.0.1... |
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| 17:47:39 | eli_sherer | everyone: ROCKWORD IS ON THE WEB!!! (beta version 0.1) |
| 17:50:20 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 17:50:44 | Jungti1234 | I waited you. |
| 17:50:47 | Jungti1234 | I will test it. |
| 17:51:24 | Jungti1234 | Doesn't Hangul become input? |
| 17:51:40 | Amar | looks nice |
| 17:51:54 | eli_sherer | Jungtil1234: "Hangul"? |
| 17:52:24 | * | petur starts formatting is h340 - rockbox folder corrupted :( |
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| 17:53:01 | * | eli_sherer wonders what hangul is!? |
| 17:53:03 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer: Korean |
| 17:53:08 | eli_sherer | oh |
| 17:53:52 | eli_sherer | i will add keyboard addition feature which in you can add more keyboard bitmaps with characters list attached to it |
| 17:53:53 | Jungti1234 | I want Hangul input. |
| 17:53:57 | Jungti1234 | Is it possible? |
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| 17:54:21 | eli_sherer | it is but youll need to change the font of the writing and i don't gurantee it'll look nice |
| 17:54:42 | webguest08 | problem with the unicode patch: i can't read korean text files |
| 17:55:19 | eli_sherer | but my rockword does support changes of font cause i used lcd_getstringsize... |
| 17:55:20 | webguest08 | tried ansi, unicode, unicode big endian, and utf-8 |
| 17:55:28 | webguest08 | none of them works |
| 17:55:29 | webguest08 | :( |
| 17:55:40 | eli_sherer | wg08: what do you mean... |
| 17:55:42 | Jungti1234 | http://sstatic.naver.com/100/800/93/28693.jpg |
| 17:55:52 | Jungti1234 | Do you want this? |
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| 17:56:02 | eli_sherer | wg08: make sure youv'e installed the unicode version of rockbox... |
| 17:56:23 | Shaikoten | Well, just got my iRiver in the mail. They flashed it to 1.08E instead of 1.28K. |
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| 17:57:00 | Shaikoten | Annoying, have to upgrade the FW before I put the bootloader on. |
| 17:57:04 | lamed_ | hello |
| 17:57:36 | lamed_ | hello |
| 17:57:42 | lostlogicx | Shaikoten: before? |
| 17:57:44 | lostlogicx | Shaikoten: while |
| 17:57:48 | eli_sherer | Jungti1234: i won't make the keyboard by myself you make it for you... |
| 17:57:56 | Shaikoten | True. |
| 17:58:10 | eli_sherer | but not until the feature is gonna be written which is in the long run... |
| 17:58:13 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
| 17:58:32 | lamed_ | there was some article somwhere in the web about how to make a line in to a car stereo by patching in the circuit. can anyone help me find it? |
| 17:58:38 | Jungti1234 | Don't make for me. |
| 17:58:50 | Jungti1234 | Make for everybody. |
| 17:59:17 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: well as soon as i'm done with bidi support... |
| 17:59:35 | max | Anyone here who works on the iPod port? |
| 17:59:42 | Jungti1234 | What is bidi? ^^; |
| 17:59:47 | max | bidirectional |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:06 | Jungti1234 | ah thanks |
| 18:00:09 | eli_sherer | Bi-Directional Languages like Hebrew which is Right to Left and English is Left-to Right |
| 18:00:26 | | Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") |
| 18:00:26 | lamed_ | eli_sherer - what are you working on? |
| 18:00:45 | eli_sherer | rockword...login to my site and d/l my latest creation! |
| 18:01:18 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer/">http://www.freewebs.com/eli_sherer/ |
| 18:01:20 | eli_sherer | btw the hebrew on rockword isn't functional... |
| 18:01:28 | lamed_ | isn't it? |
| 18:01:33 | lamed_ | really? |
| 18:01:38 | lamed_ | how come? |
| 18:01:38 | eli_sherer | it's the same as english for now... |
| 18:01:55 | lamed_ | in what manner? |
| 18:02:10 | eli_sherer | because i'm using the system font and it doesn't have hebrew in it... |
| 18:02:26 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 18:02:46 | Jungti1234 | 'Gulim' can use Korean and English. |
| 18:03:24 | lamed_ | eli_sherer: what changes are you up and about to the bidi support? |
| 18:04:18 | eli_sherer | when your writing in hebrew the apperances of the letters need to be from right to left and when in english left to right... |
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| 18:05:38 | lamed_ | what do you mean "when you'r writing", you can't write in rockbox using hebrew at all corrently as the built in font contains only gibberish letters, not hebrew. |
| 18:06:58 | eli_sherer | that's why i'm gonna use another font that does support all of the characters i'm using...or it will support the font that the system is using ehich you pick in the browse fonts menu |
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| 18:08:58 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 18:10:04 | Jungti1234 | Very sightly |
| 18:10:09 | lamed_ | if you'r interested, my screen scroll patch is a very good place to start the ltr aligned text mod, that we should probebly make some day to make everything really be ltr compatible. |
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| 18:13:17 | Shaikoten | Fantastic. Clean fast install and it passes my gapless test. :D |
| 18:13:24 | Jungti1234 | kkk |
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| 18:29:07 | linuxstb | max: I'm working on the iPod port... |
| 18:29:42 | max | linuxstb: I'd like to help. |
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| 18:30:14 | max | I've written a real time OS before (albeit x86), so I think I might be useful |
| 18:30:59 | Jungti1234 | hahaha eli_sherer, I made Hangul keyboard bmp. |
| 18:33:42 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: i'de like to see it |
| 18:34:24 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 18:34:36 | linuxstb | max: Which iPod do you have? |
| 18:34:40 | | Quit Rob2222_ () |
| 18:34:41 | max | I have a mini 1st gen |
| 18:34:56 | linuxstb | Are you familiar with ipodlinux? |
| 18:35:29 | max | Familar yes, but I have not yet installed it. |
| 18:35:49 | max | ( I also have a small amount of game boy experience, which may or may not help :P ) |
| 18:36:02 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer: http://jungti1234.netcci.net/iriver/h300/rockbox/keyb-ko.bmp |
| 18:36:22 | linuxstb | The first thing you would have to do is to write an LCD driver for Rockbox. That's the main difference I think between the Mini and the two iPods Rockbox is targetting. |
| 18:36:31 | linuxstb | I've got a 60GB Color, and preglow has a Nano. |
| 18:36:45 | linuxstb | We're the only two people working on the iPod port of Rockbox. |
| 18:37:37 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: that's very nice, i'll use it in the next version...i just need the chars for each key |
| 18:38:01 | max | Allright. I can try cannibalizing the IPL code. Where is your code available? |
| 18:38:13 | max | And do you have a mailing list of discussion forum? There doesn't appear to be one at the site |
| 18:38:17 | max | other than some general information |
| 18:38:26 | Jungti1234 | chars for each key? |
| 18:38:37 | linuxstb | max: The code is all in the Rockbox CVS. |
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| 18:38:46 | max | Excellent |
| 18:39:11 | linuxstb | All the discussion happens here in IRC. |
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| 18:40:09 | linuxstb | There is a rockbox-dev mailing list, but most people ask and answer questions here. |
| 18:41:32 | linuxstb | You should also obviously arm yourself with a copy of the ipodlinux CVS, and/or their new SVN repository. |
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| 18:42:37 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: i need a list of like 'a','b','c',... but in korean with the parallel qwerty near it |
| 18:42:40 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer: What help do you need to make it? |
| 18:42:42 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 18:43:11 | Jungti1234 | What should I give? |
| 18:43:17 | eli_sherer | in hebrew and probably you wont see it but (T-ā) |
| 18:43:27 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 18:43:47 | Jungti1234 | It pronounces that it is 'woo'. |
| 18:43:59 | eli_sherer | write a text file in unicode... q and what q is on the korean,w and what w is on the korean... |
| 18:44:21 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 18:44:27 | lamed_ | found it! if anyone is interested in hacking his car stereo for line in input : |
| 18:44:28 | lamed_ | http://www.mattgilbert.net/carstereoauxinput/ |
| 18:45:18 | lamed_ | damn. it's not it. |
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| 18:52:09 | max | linuxstb: I plan on it. Indeed. :) |
| 18:52:35 | Jungti1234 | 안녕하세요 |
| 18:52:52 | Jungti1234 | hey eli_sherer |
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| 18:55:36 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: what's that |
| 18:55:42 | dropandho | Slasheri - you happen to be around still? |
| 18:56:36 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer: I don't know whether I use unicode how. |
| 18:57:17 | eli_sherer | when you save in notepad choose "unicode" encoding... |
| 18:57:23 | Jungti1234 | AC00B098B2E4 <- this? |
| 18:57:54 | eli_sherer | IRC doesn't support unicode i think... |
| 18:58:09 | Jungti1234 | You it how look ? |
| 18:59:50 | ender` | eli_sherer: sure it does |
| 19:00 |
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| 19:01:54 | Jungti1234 | Made all. |
| 19:02:16 | Jungti1234 | eli_sherer : How do I send it to you? |
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| 19:03:39 | JonSenior | Help!!! I'm now trying the Coldfire emulator linked from Rockbox, and the only result is that I get a seg fault when I try to run the firmware. Has anyone had any success with this? Have I just screwed up the build somehow? |
| 19:07:31 | Jungti1234 | DCC? |
| 19:08:41 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:09:50 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 19:10:58 | eli_sherer | you can try.. |
| 19:11:52 | Slasheri | dropandho: yes, now again :) |
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| 19:14:45 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 19:15:00 | Jungti1234 | Receive it |
| 19:17:47 | eli_sherer | how do i receive? |
| 19:18:01 | Jungti1234 | dcc |
| 19:18:19 | Jungti1234 | now |
| 19:18:31 | eli_sherer | it's transfering? |
| 19:18:43 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 19:19:01 | Jungti1234 | Do you receive by E-mail? |
| 19:19:28 | eli_sherer | sure.. |
| 19:19:57 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: it's in your private chat... |
| 19:20:21 | Jungti1234 | hum? |
| 19:20:28 | Jungti1234 | What is your E-mail address? |
| 19:20:39 | eli_sherer | dam'n im not registered so no private message... |
| 19:20:45 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 19:20:50 | eli_sherer | eli_sherer@walla.com |
| 19:21:04 | max | You can't sent privmsg's if you're not registered? |
| 19:21:25 | eli_sherer | "Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )" |
| 19:21:27 | Jungti1234 | I'm possible. |
| 19:21:34 | max | INteresting. |
| 19:21:52 | Jungti1234 | Register. |
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| 19:24:06 | Jungti1234 | I sent E-mail. |
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| 19:25:57 | eli_sherer | now im registered... |
| 19:26:07 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 19:26:40 | | Quit DimaTech ("This computer has gone to sleep") |
| 19:30:46 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: what are kosft? |
| 19:31:13 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 19:31:16 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 19:31:20 | Jungti1234 | shift |
| 19:31:43 | eli_sherer | oh...doesn't it type english letters if shift is pressed in your keyboard? |
| 19:32:43 | Jungti1234 | Is same with alphabet big letter. |
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| 19:33:37 | Jungti1234 | Korean keyboard is ko/en button. |
| 19:33:45 | eli_sherer | im sorry but im having trouble downloading the korean.txt can you zip it and then send it to me |
| 19:34:30 | Jungti1234 | Do I send by E-mail? |
| 19:34:41 | eli_sherer | yes |
| 19:35:08 | Jungti1234 | BMP too? |
| 19:35:31 | eli_sherer | no just the txt |
| 19:35:34 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 19:35:38 | eli_sherer | zipped |
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| 19:36:19 | Jungti1234 | Sent. |
| 19:36:51 | eli_sherer | got it |
| 19:37:31 | eli_sherer | hehe i can see korean... |
| 19:37:56 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 19:38:01 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: just as i need |
| 19:38:03 | DimaTech | hmm |
| 19:38:17 | DimaTech | My Archos wont mount again |
| 19:38:28 | Jungti1234 | great |
| 19:40:29 | DimaTech | not great |
| 19:40:39 | DimaTech | It does charge it through usb though |
| 19:40:43 | DimaTech | The archos fm recorder |
| 19:41:54 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 19:42:05 | Jungti1234 | I spoke to eli. |
| 19:42:06 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: there's a problem...i use unsigned char which is 0-255 and unicode is 0-65535 |
| 19:42:13 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
| 19:42:21 | max | eli: You could use UTF-8 |
| 19:42:28 | eli_sherer | no go... |
| 19:42:46 | eli_sherer | and how do i use it in snprintf() |
| 19:43:02 | max | setenv LOCALE=utf8 :) |
| 19:43:17 | eli_sherer | formatted text: %c will take an unsigned integer?? |
| 19:43:32 | max | Oh, you're trying to use %c |
| 19:43:38 | max | See if there's a wsnprintf |
| 19:43:44 | eli_sherer | to show it on screen |
| 19:43:56 | eli_sherer | ws? |
| 19:44:10 | max | 'wide string'. But is rockbox unicode clean? |
| 19:44:43 | max | gone |
| 19:44:49 | eli_sherer | i'll check on the source how it displays japanese and learn from it... |
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| 19:45:18 | Jungti1234 | What's the matter? |
| 19:45:36 | | Part bond987 |
| 19:45:59 | Jungti1234 | Korean is important than Japanese. |
| 19:46:12 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: strings in c language are characters arrays every character is a byte |
| 19:46:26 | eli_sherer | the letters in korean takes more then a byte (takes 2) |
| 19:46:37 | Jungti1234 | japanese too |
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| 19:46:52 | eli_sherer | yup...there isn't support for it i think.. |
| 19:47:13 | Jungti1234 | Is it impossible? |
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| 19:49:38 | eli_sherer | jungtil1234: do you see korean on your rockbox..? |
| 19:49:45 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 19:50:04 | Jungti1234 | I use unicode rockbox. |
| 19:50:34 | Jungti1234 | Do you need Hangul font? |
| 19:52:11 | eli_sherer | no...but i found a function: static int unicode_munge(char* string, int *len) |
| 19:52:24 | eli_sherer | it converts 16bit strings into 8bit strings |
| 19:52:55 | eli_sherer | i'm sorry it's too difficult for me! |
| 19:53:01 | Jungti1234 | -_- |
| 19:53:25 | Jungti1234 | Who can not you owe to? |
| 19:53:46 | Jungti1234 | -> Is no there a person to help to you? |
| 19:53:51 | eli_sherer | i will need to check everytime you load a file if it's unicode or not... |
| 19:54:14 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 19:54:22 | Jungti1234 | ūÆīÏļé ģŧ°ĄļļĩéÁö |
| 19:54:24 | eli_sherer | and that's a bi*** |
| 19:54:46 | Jungti1234 | what is ***? -_-; |
| 19:55:32 | Jungti1234 | You can do! |
| 19:55:33 | eli_sherer | i dont want to curse so i censure myself |
| 19:56:05 | Jungti1234 | You can do it! |
| 19:56:24 | Jungti1234 | Do! hahaahaahaa |
| 19:57:03 | Jungti1234 | Can't it do not at all? |
| 19:57:05 | eli_sherer | jungti1234: i appreciate your cheering but i have a lot to work on before i can get down to things like that... |
| 19:57:34 | eli_sherer | next week when i come home from the army i tend to make the calendar i want and maybe work on the bitmap editing capabilites of rockpaint |
| 19:58:05 | Jungti1234 | army? |
| 19:58:13 | eli_sherer | yes im a soldier |
| 19:58:19 | Jungti1234 | Are you Israel soldier? |
| 19:58:23 | eli_sherer | yup |
| 19:58:30 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 19:58:40 | Jungti1234 | I become soldier soon. |
| 19:58:53 | Jungti1234 | 4~6 year later. |
| 19:59:07 | eli_sherer | i'm on the communication force i deal with VOIP...very interesting |
| 19:59:33 | Jungti1234 | oh.. |
| 19:59:46 | Jungti1234 | I have interest. |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:05 | Jungti1234 | But, army hates going. |
| 20:00:29 | Jungti1234 | Anyway |
| 20:00:41 | Jungti1234 | Will you do it later? |
| 20:00:47 | eli_sherer | i got this job cause i have a diploma in software engineering |
| 20:01:21 | eli_sherer | i did it after highschool instead of getting drafted then after the study i got drafted |
| 20:01:23 | Jungti1234 | I go to bed. |
| 20:01:42 | eli_sherer | good night...im going too..(see my gf) |
| 20:01:43 | Jungti1234 | What time is there? |
| 20:01:51 | eli_sherer | 21:03 |
| 20:01:58 | Jungti1234 | The South Korea is 4:01. |
| 20:02:16 | Jungti1234 | good night |
| 20:02:22 | eli_sherer | wow you don't want to sleep don't you... |
| 20:02:30 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
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| 20:03:03 | | Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") |
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| 20:24:05 | San | I made an idiots guide to upgrading to rockbox: |
| 20:24:06 | San | http://diabolikal.org/home/staticpages/index.php?page=rockbox |
| 20:28:17 | Rick | err... does H3x0 have DRM? |
| 20:28:21 | Rick | I think it did at least |
| 20:29:11 | San | the US player supports it |
| 20:29:19 | San | but not if you upgrade it to korean |
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| 20:32:47 | TiMiD | hi |
| 20:33:53 | San | hey |
| 20:35:18 | Rick | San: yeah, I was going to suggest you add a large warning about that in your guide |
| 20:35:53 | San | the DRM? |
| 20:35:58 | San | i will do it now |
| 20:36:01 | San | good idea |
| 20:38:26 | San | done |
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| 20:45:52 | test | !test |
| 20:47:31 | | Nick test is now known as themaster (i=test@dslb-084-056-136-229.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:47:43 | | Nick themaster is now known as themaster2 (i=test@dslb-084-056-136-229.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:47:47 | themaster2 | hello |
| 20:48:15 | themaster2 | is this the rockbox irc chat? it seems so :D |
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| 20:48:41 | San | yes it is |
| 20:48:47 | themaster2 | oh ok thanks |
| 20:49:02 | San | np |
| 20:49:09 | themaster2 | that was all what i want to hear :D |
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| 20:50:00 | themaster2 | this was a test for a irc chat plugin for the rockbox-lounge.6x.to forum :D |
| 20:50:28 | themaster2 | also known as the german rockbox help forum :) |
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| 20:50:51 | themaster2 | so i wish you a nice weekend..bye |
| 20:51:17 | XavierGr | TiMiD: Are you here? |
| 20:51:17 | San | cya |
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| 20:52:55 | _FireFly_ | XavierGr: he is mark as away but this say nothing if he is really afk ;) |
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| 20:53:47 | XavierGr | well just wondering... |
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| 20:54:21 | XavierGr | _FireFly_: Where do you see if he is away? |
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| 20:55:20 | _FireFly_ | the userlist in my client has drawn his name in a light gray and a whois tells me that he is away ;) |
| 20:55:39 | XavierGr | which client? |
| 20:55:42 | _FireFly_ | xchat |
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| 21:01:48 | Moos | Hello, he is marked away: cause he need to work |
| 21:03:03 | _FireFly_ | yeah it seams he is very busy :) |
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| 21:03:34 | Moos | yeah really, long time we didn't see here |
| 21:03:41 | Musicmad | simple question. I want to inline the string "Next:" in this one: %s%ac%?it<%it|%Fn> - where should I put it? |
| 21:04:04 | Musicmad | seems to break it if I do something like: %s%ac Next: %?it<%it|%Fn> |
| 21:05:02 | Moos | sorry can't help here don't know a lot about the WPS language |
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| 21:05:28 | Musicmad | me neither.. |
| 21:05:42 | Musicmad | just wanna add a next track info to the ipodVol wps. |
| 21:06:18 | lostlogicx | Should be able to do just what you said Musicmad |
| 21:06:21 | lostlogicx | what breaks? |
| 21:06:25 | Moos | did yoy read well this?: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 21:06:42 | _FireFly_ | i have it similar but %s and %ac switched |
| 21:06:59 | Musicmad | lostlogic: let me just recheck. |
| 21:07:02 | _FireFly_ | no wait |
| 21:07:30 | _FireFly_ | this is my line %ac%s%?It<Next: %It|%?Fn<Next: %Fn>> |
| 21:08:12 | Musicmad | ah 0a2es sense |
| 21:08:18 | Musicmad | ahem makes sense. |
| 21:08:25 | Musicmad | damn laptop numlock :) |
| 21:08:30 | Musicmad | thanks _FireFly_ |
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| 21:10:06 | Musicmad | %s%ac%?it<Next: %it|Next: %Fn> seems to work too. |
| 21:10:06 | muesli_- | themaster suxx |
| 21:10:08 | muesli_- | ;) |
| 21:10:21 | test | so geht |
| 21:10:29 | _FireFly_ | test: ;) |
| 21:10:29 | test | no problems |
| 21:10:37 | test | !test |
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| 21:10:49 | themaster2 | so |
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| 21:11:21 | ender` | what's with these ctcp sounds? |
| 21:11:44 | themaster2 | this comes from this fucking java plugin ;) |
| 21:14:00 | solexx___ | hey, rockbox behaviour has changed! |
| 21:14:10 | solexx___ | when i enter a folder and press play on, say, track 8 |
| 21:14:27 | solexx___ | a playlist is created with track 8 at first position |
| 21:14:41 | solexx___ | and the rest of the folder after that |
| 21:14:51 | solexx___ | was that intentional? |
| 21:14:58 | _FireFly_ | and what is the problem with that ?? |
| 21:15:19 | solexx___ | i remember having a playlist with the first track at no 1 |
| 21:15:34 | solexx___ | and rockbox started playing at position 8 in the playlist |
| 21:15:47 | Moos | there is one option for this, no? |
| 21:16:13 | solexx___ | Moos: where? |
| 21:16:31 | solexx___ | _FireFly_: i have a folder for each album |
| 21:16:33 | t0mas | ask Slasheri |
| 21:16:40 | t0mas | he has changed some of the next dir stuff iirc |
| 21:16:44 | t0mas | I think that has to do with it |
| 21:16:49 | solexx___ | and i'd like to have each track with the corect number in the playlist |
| 21:17:09 | solexx___ | t0mas: thx |
| 21:17:19 | t0mas | and I have an old build... |
| 21:17:23 | t0mas | it does work as you said |
| 21:17:26 | Slasheri | t0mas: Hmm, really? =) I haven't touched the next dir skipping.. |
| 21:17:31 | solexx___ | i can't remeber having read about that in the changelog |
| 21:17:32 | t0mas | it addes everything and then start playing at index 6 |
| 21:17:33 | Moos | solexx: playback>play selected first? |
| 21:17:41 | t0mas | Slasheri: wasn't it you |
| 21:17:41 | t0mas | ? |
| 21:17:49 | Slasheri | no.. somebody else implemented that |
| 21:17:50 | * | t0mas reads back his cvs mail |
| 21:17:58 | solexx___ | Moos: I didn't touch that |
| 21:18:08 | Moos | t0mas: len0x |
| 21:18:34 | solexx___ | it plays the track i want, just the numbering is "wrong" (imo) |
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| 21:18:48 | Slasheri | t0mas: or in fact i am not sure about that :) |
| 21:19:06 | Moos | about the next dir option? |
| 21:19:51 | * | t0mas had the idea it was you Slasheri... |
| 21:20:13 | Slasheri | t0mas: at least i haven't implemented the whole directory skipping |
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| 21:20:16 | Moos | hehe, normal, Slasheri makes a lot of great things :) |
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| 21:20:23 | Slasheri | :D |
| 21:20:33 | t0mas | but yeah |
| 21:20:34 | t0mas | woops |
| 21:20:38 | t0mas | -but :) |
| 21:20:52 | t0mas | I liked the dirskipping thing... so I expected it to be his ;) |
| 21:21:02 | Slasheri | hehe :D |
| 21:21:15 | Moos | I remenber len0x is the last worked on it |
| 21:21:31 | Moos | but I don't remenber the initial creator... |
| 21:21:49 | Moos | FireFly: isn't you? |
| 21:21:51 | _FireFly_ | should be in the header of the source-file |
| 21:21:57 | _FireFly_ | no |
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| 21:25:26 | test | test |
| 21:25:36 | solexx_ | so, does anybody else think this behaviour is a bit strange or am i alone? |
| 21:25:54 | Moos | test: how many test you need? :) |
| 21:26:03 | t0mas | solexx_: I agree that it should change |
| 21:26:30 | muesli_- | Moos sorry..we are just implementing a web-chat |
| 21:26:48 | t0mas | solexx_: the old behaviour was more logical... |
| 21:26:59 | t0mas | any people with archoses around? |
| 21:27:17 | Moos | muesli: hi, don't worries, just I'm wondered :) |
| 21:27:37 | muesli_- | ;) |
| 21:28:43 | TiMiD | XavierGr: I'm here, but I'm very busy those times |
| 21:29:32 | Moos | hehe you're in general chanel :) |
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| 21:30:36 | themaster2 | !themaster2 |
| 21:31:18 | Musicmad | what does it take for a wps to show up as a "theme" in the browse theme menu? |
| 21:31:41 | Musicmad | nevermind, found it. |
| 21:31:46 | Musicmad | it's in wpslist btw. |
| 21:32:31 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: at least in sim the playlistviewer list the created playlist in the right order |
| 21:33:25 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: and also on my device |
| 21:33:44 | Moos | yes here too |
| 21:34:19 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: do you use maybe a self-patched version ?? |
| 21:36:01 | solexx_ | _FireFly_: no |
| 21:36:45 | _FireFly_ | and the code which creates the playlist makes it also in the order as it is shown in filtree |
| 21:37:13 | solexx_ | build: 051202-1039 |
| 21:37:16 | solexx_ | iriver h120 |
| 21:37:55 | solexx_ | i'll try the latest build |
| 21:39:30 | solexx_ | ...still the same |
| 21:39:32 | solexx_ | strange |
| 21:40:07 | solexx_ | my files are have tracknum at the beginning, sort order is alphabetical (case sensitive) |
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| 21:42:25 | solexx_ | play selected first is "yes" (although it doesn't seem to make a difference) |
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| 21:44:44 | solexx_ | in case my cfg is of interest: |
| 21:44:48 | solexx_ | http://wasteland.homelinux.net/~jrschulz/rockbox/config36.cfg |
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| 21:45:25 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: if it is a cfg-problem reset the settings and try it again |
| 21:46:46 | solexx_ | it looks like a cfg problem |
| 21:46:54 | solexx_ | after resetting, i get the old behaviour |
| 21:47:09 | solexx_ | when i reload my old settings, it's "broken" again |
| 21:47:31 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: then setup your setting again step-by-step without loading the cfg |
| 21:47:58 | _FireFly_ | then maybe you get the setting which change this behaviour |
| 21:48:12 | solexx_ | *gnarf* |
| 21:48:36 | Slasheri | Hmm.. should the id3 database work? I tried to build it with songdb.pl (succeeded), but when i enable it from the file filter, player just hangs and needs a reset :/ |
| 21:48:54 | BBub | works for me |
| 21:49:01 | Slasheri | ok, weird.. |
| 21:49:17 | _FireFly_ | BBub: also with the latest bleeding build ?? |
| 21:49:24 | BBub | nope |
| 21:49:24 | Moos | Slasheri: did you build the id3 well? with perl script or java one |
| 21:49:26 | Slasheri | i would have liked to test it to get more ideas how to implement the tagcache |
| 21:49:37 | Slasheri | Moos: with perl |
| 21:49:51 | Moos | the last one? |
| 21:50:09 | Slasheri | Hmm, just a moment |
| 21:50:25 | Moos | (java one is better ;) ) |
| 21:50:41 | Slasheri | yes, it was the cvs version |
| 21:50:45 | Slasheri | hehe :) |
| 21:51:00 | Moos | maybe you can try the java script? |
| 21:51:14 | Slasheri | i will try.. if i can get java work |
| 21:51:22 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 21:51:30 | _FireFly_ | Moos: java-script ?? i thought it is a java-programm ;) |
| 21:51:44 | Moos | yes I notice the typos soory :) |
| 21:52:28 | Slasheri | hmm, i think perl "scripts" are programs too, because those are compiled before execution |
| 21:52:57 | max | They're not compiled to native code though |
| 21:53:06 | petur | scripts run through an interpreter |
| 21:53:12 | _FireFly_ | java also ;) |
| 21:53:14 | Slasheri | neither are java programs by default |
| 21:53:15 | petur | nope |
| 21:53:22 | max | the interpreter 'compiles' it to slightly lower level byte codes. |
| 21:53:29 | petur | yep |
| 21:53:33 | Slasheri | java is byte code too :) |
| 21:53:40 | Slasheri | but it can be compiled natively also |
| 21:53:56 | max | That it is. It's generlaly only distribuyted as byte codes. You can't 'execute' the code directly. |
| 21:53:57 | _FireFly_ | python-code also with the py2exe module |
| 21:54:22 | max | Does that just embed a python interpreter in an exe with the byte-code script? |
| 21:54:30 | Slasheri | and there is perlcc too ;) it might work for some programs |
| 21:54:42 | _FireFly_ | max: i think so |
| 21:55:03 | solexx_ | max: yes |
| 21:55:05 | _FireFly_ | and you have a archiv with all needed modules in it |
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| 22:01:00 | solexx_ | I have reset most of my settings and it works again |
| 22:05:12 | solexx_ | very strange, but i am too lazy to find out which of the settings was the culprit |
| 22:08:04 | lostlogicx | hmmmm profiling acts like it's working, but I don't see nearly enough function calls... is the world inlined and I didn't notice!? |
| 22:08:40 | solexx_ | and to whoever was browsing my site: you should really spend more time reading my python presentation - it was a whole lot of work! :) |
| 22:10:06 | linuxstb | lostlogicx: Yes, I'm sure gcc inlines a lot of Tremor. |
| 22:11:06 | lostlogicx | *nod* well the latest profiling patches are at lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox_profile.patch">http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox_profile.patch and http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/Makefile.patch if you want to try them out and see if you like the results or see why it might be getting wrong values. |
| 22:11:53 | lostlogicx | (currently it's just writing out PCs of functoin calls, but it shouldn't be too hard to convert those to function names with the map files |
| 22:12:19 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: i have written a very small python-"program" which recodes audio-files(currently only from flac or wavpack to flac, wavpack and mp3) :) |
| 22:12:46 | _FireFly_ | s/and mp3/or mp3 |
| 22:13:01 | solexx_ | _FireFly_: oh, you remember that! |
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| 22:14:03 | solexx_ | do you use python modules or external programs? |
| 22:15:17 | _FireFly_ | the decode and encode is done via the external programs (flac, wavpack/wvunpack, vorbiscomment metaflac,apetag and lame) |
| 22:16:07 | solexx_ | where do i find it? |
| 22:16:25 | _FireFly_ | currently nowhere except on my laptop :) |
| 22:16:27 | solexx_ | :) |
| 22:17:32 | solexx_ | give it to me and i'll extend it with vorbis |
| 22:19:30 | _FireFly_ | home.arcor.de/s.wezel/recode.py |
| 22:19:51 | _FireFly_ | it's very minimalistic |
| 22:20:01 | lostlogicx | linuxstb: is vorbis.c a reasonable place to start and stop profiling if I want it to be profiling the codec on the codec thread? (Just looking for reasons tha tI might be missing the details I want to capture here). |
| 22:20:06 | _FireFly_ | it was a very quick-hack :) |
| 22:28:09 | solexx_ | i see :) |
| 22:28:21 | petur | got a question about the crossfade code (pcmbuf.c) |
| 22:28:41 | petur | the satic var 'crossfade_fade_in_amount' is initialized to 0 |
| 22:28:48 | solexx_ | btw, you should resist to name variables "file" since it is a predefinded function |
| 22:29:10 | petur | and in the h300 sim it is never set to anything else |
| 22:29:20 | petur | so when skipping tracks -> crash |
| 22:29:27 | petur | (div by 0) |
| 22:33:22 | miner49er | hi there :-) Does anyone know if there's any way to print to the terminal window when running code in the simulator? |
| 22:33:23 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: btw what did you mean with " oh, you remember that!" ?? |
| 22:33:54 | Bagder | miner49er: printf() |
| 22:34:10 | solexx_ | _FireFly_: i once had a conversation in here about a similar topic |
| 22:34:23 | solexx_ | i guess i didn't talk to you, then :) |
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| 22:34:34 | jomtones | hi! |
| 22:34:39 | miner49er | cheers for that Badger! |
| 22:34:56 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: and i didn't read that ;) |
| 22:35:06 | jomtones | can anyone tell me where to find the variable speed function in Rockbox (iRiver H140) |
| 22:35:11 | jomtones | ? |
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| 22:36:12 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: this "hack" was created to convert some in flac,wv encoded hearing-books because my brother wanted this books but had only an ipod with stock-firmware -> mp3 |
| 22:36:20 | miner49er | sorry for begin a dumbass Badger, but what header file do I need to include for that? |
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| 22:36:38 | _FireFly_ | miner49er: man printf ;) |
| 22:37:12 | _FireFly_ | or better man 3 printf |
| 22:37:29 | Bagder | if you want to do it rockbox style, I guess debugf() is more appropriate |
| 22:37:39 | Bagder | hm |
| 22:37:40 | Bagder | no |
| 22:37:44 | Bagder | DEBUGF it is |
| 22:39:01 | miner49er | cheers Badger, it is rockbox stylee. I'm writing a plugin and wanna print some debug out... |
| 22:39:31 | lostlogicx | gah, apparently vorbis.c doesn't run on the codec thread really!? |
| 22:39:37 | solexx_ | _FireFly_: quite useful for me, since I decided to keep mostly FLACs on my hd and use lossy files on my iriver |
| 22:40:59 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: you could use wavpack in hyprid-mode |
| 22:41:10 | petur | DEBUGF will print to the terminal window of the sim, unless there's a debugger around. In that case it does OutputDebugString() |
| 22:41:17 | jomtones | sorry to er.. repeat myself |
| 22:41:18 | _FireFly_ | a loosy *.wv file with an correction-file *.wvc |
| 22:41:29 | jomtones | is this variable speed even possible? |
| 22:41:51 | miner49er | cool, i'm now using DEBUGF...cheers everyone. |
| 22:42:31 | * | petur wonders why Insight converts the OutputDebugString into annoying messageboxes |
| 22:45:18 | solexx_ | _FireFly_: yes, I already thought about that |
| 22:47:02 | solexx_ | fortunately, wavpack has entered debian unstable |
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| 22:53:41 | solexx_ | but player support is rare |
| 22:54:50 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 22:56:45 | solexx_ | and I like having lossy files in a separate directory structure |
| 22:56:49 | solexx_ | makes copying easier |
| 22:58:40 | ep0ch| | dumb question, preglow implemented a playback speed adjustment, where do i find the screen to change the speed of playback?? |
| 22:59:42 | _FireFly_ | solexx_: -d switch in convert.py |
| 22:59:59 | Musicmad | ep0ch|: try pressing play while using joystick up and down. |
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| 23:00:46 | ep0ch| | ah thankyou, i was expecting it to be in the playback settings menu |
| 23:01:27 | jomtones | uuu ok I guess no-one here knows about variable speed playback? I feel...blanked! |
| 23:01:56 | solexx_ | _FireFly_: yes, I saw that |
| 23:01:59 | solexx_ | afk |
| 23:04:41 | jomtones | oh WOW - thankyou epoch!! |
| 23:04:48 | jomtones | i didn't spot that line... |
| 23:06:33 | jomtones | I guess this means the track must be paused whilst changing play speed?... |
| 23:06:35 | jomtones | :( |
| 23:06:44 | jomtones | makes it a lot less useful for DJ's.... |
| 23:07:27 | Musicmad | jomtones: why jump to conclusions? |
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| 23:07:50 | jomtones | no! ... sorry i didn't have headphones plugged in :) |
| 23:07:57 | jomtones | well that rules... :) |
| 23:08:04 | Musicmad | indeed it does :) |
| 23:08:14 | jomtones | is there any way to change the speed of the pitch change? |
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| 23:08:52 | Musicmad | change the code :) |
| 23:09:07 | jomtones | =)... errr ... OK! |
| 23:09:19 | jomtones | where can I find the code?!! |
| 23:09:36 | jomtones | (this is probably really way over my head...) |
| 23:09:54 | Musicmad | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 23:10:02 | jomtones | thanks :) |
| 23:10:26 | Musicmad | np |
| 23:10:43 | jomtones | (I think it's probably still way over my head...:) |
| 23:11:02 | jomtones | I guess I'll have to add it to 'feature requests' somewhere |
| 23:11:26 | jomtones | My programming skills and time are way too limited |
| 23:11:38 | jomtones | Still, this rules pretty much, cheers! |
| 23:13:13 | Bagder | Slasheri: you made the builds yellow... |
| 23:15:08 | lostlogicx | does the bulk of Codec processing _not_ happen on the codec_thread (the same thread that codec_start) is run on or something? |
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| 23:22:33 | lostlogicx | shizer, I froze my player. |
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| 23:31:59 | Musicmad | regarding the morse code thing - would it be possible to use another key than the joystick? Is really quite noisy |
| 23:35:14 | XavierGr | now that recording peak meters work for iriver I wonder I f it will be trivial to add this on the radio screen too. |
| 23:37:01 | Musicmad | how is FM recording working now a days btw? |
| 23:37:20 | XavierGr | just great |
| 23:38:03 | Musicmad | what's the procedure? |
| 23:38:25 | XavierGr | start radio |
| 23:38:35 | XavierGr | exit while playing (with A-B) |
| 23:38:40 | XavierGr | start recording |
| 23:38:46 | XavierGr | choose line in |
| 23:38:52 | XavierGr | then record |
| 23:39:15 | Musicmad | ok thanks |
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| 23:52:19 | Musicmad | wow - morsecode will be an excellent input method - already is actually. |
| 23:52:42 | max | That can't be the fastest input method ever. :P |
| 23:53:49 | Musicmad | it's definately fewer clicks than the regular keyboard input. |
| 23:55:03 | Musicmad | and it can be done "blind" |
| 23:55:13 | max | *nod* |
| 23:55:23 | max | IPL has like, 12 different input methods, some of them quite strange |
| 23:55:36 | XavierGr | like? |
| 23:56:03 | max | http://ipodlinux.org/Text_Input_Methods |
| 23:56:26 | max | dial type, on screen keyboard, morse code, 'cursive' |
| 23:56:30 | Musicmad | interesting |
| 23:56:45 | max | 'four button keyboard', telephone, "thumbscript".. |
| 23:57:01 | max | The cursive one is the weirdest, I think |
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