00:00:08 | qweasd | did u look at the .C files? |
00:00:13 | _FireFly_ | San: then you are a lucky guy which understands such thinks very fast :) |
00:00:15 | San | yes, and looked at how the plugins did stuff, and related them to how the work on the H300 |
00:00:30 | qweasd | and used no tutorial? |
00:00:33 | qweasd | u must b clever |
00:00:34 | San | no |
00:00:34 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: #2 - e.g. /dev/sda2 should be the FAT32 partition |
00:01:00 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: fdisk -l /dev/sda |
00:01:03 | qweasd | thanks 4 the help though |
00:01:07 | San | well, i didn't write a plugin yet, i use parts of other plugins, and then pasted them all into one |
00:01:21 | _FireFly_ | then you get all partitions and when set correctly the used fs |
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00:02:45 | _FireFly_ | petur: have you tested the new cleaned patch?? |
00:03:02 | petur | just ran it here: I see no difference :( |
00:03:52 | _FireFly_ | really no differences ?? |
00:04:29 | petur | just played a file and the icons are still flickering |
00:04:34 | qweasd | if i open the programs using a C programming tool (Dev-C++) and study the codes, find how the work, will that help? |
00:04:47 | _FireFly_ | petur: a bit less then without it ?? |
00:04:53 | qweasd | and what is the simpelest plugin? |
00:05:11 | Cassandra | linuxstb, Success! |
00:05:18 | Cassandra | Rockbox has booted. |
00:05:23 | NightCat | There must be the plugin "hello world" but i don't know where :) |
00:05:26 | petur | no difference I'm affraid |
00:05:37 | petur | unless I'm doing something wrong |
00:05:41 | linuxstb_ | Congratulations. Welcome to the iPod port. |
00:05:49 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
00:05:52 | Bagder | NightCat: apps/plugins/helloworld.c |
00:05:53 | _FireFly_ | petur: try a reboot |
00:06:02 | Cassandra | Can I get it to boot the original firmware, or is it knackered. |
00:06:17 | _FireFly_ | maybe you have updated the firmware-file while the dvice was running |
00:06:24 | _FireFly_ | und forgotten to reload it |
00:06:47 | petur | I did let it reload (rolo) and also did a power down-up cycle |
00:07:08 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: It _should_ work if you hold down the menu button whilst booting |
00:07:23 | petur | but the flickering may be due to the slow LCD code of the H3xx |
00:07:45 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: But the button driver in the bootloader isn't very reliable. preglow says it works about one time in 10 for him |
00:08:12 | qweasd | is there any way i can boot up the plugins i make, edit on my pc? |
00:08:27 | Cassandra | Original firmware won't boot anyway. |
00:08:28 | _FireFly_ | petur: could be that my fix doesn't get showd because the current lcd-code is to slow |
00:08:44 | qweasd | is there any way i can boot up the plugins i make, edit on my pc? |
00:08:45 | _FireFly_ | too |
00:08:54 | petur | ah well... |
00:08:56 | NightCat | qweasd: You need cigwin and other stuff... |
00:08:59 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: Maybe try going through the step of merging bootloader.bin and apple_os.bin again and write a new image to your boot partition |
00:09:05 | Cassandra | Not a huge problem, since presumably I can do a total wipe if I need to return it. |
00:09:10 | petur | must ask Linus where the problem lies |
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00:09:35 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: Yes, Apple has a "restore" utility on their website you can use to restore to the factory condition. |
00:09:50 | Kyl3 | Is there a way to stretch out rockboy to fit the screen? I tried and it worked, but the game wouldny use the extra space.. and Firefly.. that H300 remote patch works great, except left and right go up and down |
00:10:19 | _FireFly_ | Kyl3: which remote-patch do you mean ?? |
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00:10:47 | Kyl3 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1367824 <−− that one firefly |
00:11:21 | _FireFly_ | Kyl3: this isn't from me :) |
00:11:24 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: You've probably noticed there is no off switch on the ipod - it just sleeps and eventually powers down by itself. |
00:11:29 | _FireFly_ | Bger is the author of it |
00:11:38 | Kyl3 | oh. |
00:11:44 | Kyl3 | .. lol sorry. |
00:12:14 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: If you want to make it sleep, you can enter "diagnostics mode" (hold rewind and play whilst booting) and select sleep from there (according to preglow, diagnostics mode doesn't work on my ipod) |
00:12:30 | linuxstb_ | (sorry, rewind and select) |
00:13:04 | San||Away | how do I fix this? |
00:13:05 | San||Away | /*************************************************************************** |
00:13:05 | San||Away | * __________ __ ___. |
00:13:05 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK San||Away |
00:13:05 | San||Away | * Open \______ \ ____ ____ | | _\_ |__ _______ ___ |
00:13:05 | San||Away | * Source | _// _ \_/ ___\| |/ /| __ \ / _ \ \/ / |
00:13:05 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
00:13:05 | San||Away | * Jukebox | | ( <_> ) \___| < | \_\ ( <_> > < < |
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00:13:19 | San||Away | Damn, sorry |
00:13:21 | San||Away | sooo sorry |
00:13:29 | San||Away | copy didn't work in the program |
00:13:31 | San||Away | sorry |
00:13:50 | San||Away | in the cygwin, it dodn't copy |
00:14:01 | San||Away | and pasted the thing I had before |
00:14:08 | San||Away | sorry... |
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00:18:53 | qweasd | is there any way i can boot up the plugins i make, edit on my pc? |
00:19:06 | NightCat | I already answered! |
00:19:17 | San||Away | the sim? |
00:19:42 | qweasd | sorry nightCat |
00:19:50 | qweasd | any way how do i use the sim |
00:19:52 | qweasd | ? |
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00:20:41 | qweasd | how do i make sim |
00:20:52 | NightCat | You need a cygwin anyway. |
00:21:00 | qweasd | yep i got that |
00:21:00 | NightCat | A moment. |
00:21:15 | Cassandra | [christi@slappy backup-ipod]$ ../tools/ipod_fw -g nano -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader.bin |
00:21:15 | Cassandra | Generating firmware image compatible with iPod mini, 4g and iPod photo... |
00:21:16 | NightCat | Did you build yor RB? |
00:21:32 | Cassandra | Is it meant to do that? I notice it doesn't say Nano compatible. |
00:22:30 | NightCat | qweasd: Did you do this guide: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
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00:22:49 | qweasd | yep |
00:23:06 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
00:23:10 | qweasd | ive done that |
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00:23:28 | NightCat | And you get the latest source from cvs? |
00:23:54 | petur | did you create a dir and do configure in it? |
00:24:03 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: Yes, that message is fine. |
00:24:39 | NightCat | qweasd: Where are u? |
00:25:03 | Cassandra | Still won't load the original firmware. Weird. |
00:25:07 | Cassandra | Never mind. |
00:25:13 | petur | linuxstb: I created a patch for the lcd_update_rect() code from Kaggen. I see now difference with the old code. |
00:25:23 | petur | now=no |
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00:25:54 | qweasd | yea i got the latest source |
00:26:09 | qweasd | and create a dir and do configure in it |
00:26:14 | g33 | is the optical out affected by volume? |
00:26:20 | petur | then 'make'? |
00:26:31 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: Does it work if you restore the original bootloader partition? |
00:26:45 | g33 | and if so, what volume should i leave it on for it to be "neutral" |
00:27:33 | qweasd | petur, yea done the make thing |
00:27:36 | qweasd | and make zip |
00:27:48 | San||Away | oh, yeah, in the next daily build, can you make it so that when you install a new dailybuild, it has the volume on 50? I almost blew my ears out last nite |
00:27:48 | petur | create an archos dir? |
00:27:56 | NightCat | Then try it on your DAP :) |
00:28:13 | petur | not the sim! |
00:28:20 | NightCat | I mean your rockbox.zip file :) |
00:28:35 | qweasd | where do i create an archos dir? |
00:28:42 | qweasd | anywhere? |
00:28:46 | petur | for the sim you need to make install |
00:29:11 | petur | below the dir where you build |
00:29:42 | qweasd | so i do the same as before, but instead of choosing build, i choose install? |
00:29:49 | qweasd | sorry i mean sim |
00:30:06 | petur | no, after you 'make' you 'make install' |
00:30:28 | petur | it copies the required files in the archos dir |
00:30:38 | petur | then run the exe |
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00:31:24 | qweasd | instead of make zip, make install? |
00:31:41 | petur | yes |
00:32:01 | petur | for the sim, that is |
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00:32:11 | petur | cd .. |
00:32:18 | petur | wrong window :) |
00:32:28 | qweasd | u know after u type in rbconf, do i still select normal mode, or simulator? |
00:32:53 | petur | you want to build the sim? |
00:32:59 | qweasd | yea |
00:33:16 | petur | then select sim of course |
00:33:25 | qweasd | lol stupid quesion |
00:33:31 | qweasd | *question |
00:33:49 | petur | don't mix them in the same dir! |
00:34:11 | qweasd | the normal and sim? |
00:34:21 | qweasd | ive created 2 seprate folders for both em |
00:34:30 | petur | good. got the exe? |
00:34:48 | qweasd | not yet |
00:34:53 | qweasd | ive just dont the rbconf |
00:35:00 | qweasd | *done |
00:35:03 | qweasd | and done make |
00:35:13 | qweasd | just waiting for that to finish |
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00:42:16 | Cassandra | linuxstb, yes, it does. |
00:42:34 | Cassandra | linuxstb, bug in ipod_fw? |
00:42:48 | qweasd | petur, thats finished |
00:42:53 | qweasd | so now i type in make install? |
00:43:00 | petur | yes |
00:43:30 | qweasd | ok i got rockboxui.exe |
00:44:00 | qweasd | and it sed "no wps modulepresent, cant do the WPS magic!" |
00:44:07 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: There shouldn't be. It works fine for both preglow and me (and all the ipodlinux users). |
00:44:10 | qweasd | ok now what do i do |
00:44:52 | NightCat | Test your olugin :) |
00:45:31 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: What are the filesizes for apple_os.bin and rockboot.bin ? |
00:45:34 | petur | do you have an 'archos' dir with an '.rockbox' tree in it |
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00:46:13 | * | petur needs some sleep |
00:46:21 | Cassandra | -rw-rw-r−− 1 christi christi 4731184 Dec 10 23:44 apple_os.bin |
00:46:31 | Cassandra | -rw-rw-r−− 1 christi christi 4812536 Dec 10 23:45 rockboot.bin |
00:46:55 | linuxstb_ | They look about right. |
00:47:36 | petur | qweasd: if you did everything correctly, it should run... |
00:47:57 | Cassandra | It dumps much quicker than bootloader.bin, but I suppose that's to be expected. |
00:48:30 | linuxstb_ | Yes, I think your bootpartition.bin is about 80MB (most of which is empty) |
00:48:56 | Cassandra | Yep, that's right 80mb |
00:49:05 | Cassandra | (Size of my first ever hard drive.) |
00:49:32 | petur | my first pc didn't have a harddrive |
00:49:37 | petur | 2 floppies... |
00:50:26 | petur | goodnight all |
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00:50:45 | qweasd | THANKS GUYS! |
00:51:41 | linuxstb_ | Cassandra: I can't think of anything to suggest. Maybe preglow will have an idea when he's next around. |
00:53:25 | linuxstb_ | So if you delete the rockbox.ipod file and then reboot, it justs hangs on "Loading original firmware" ? |
00:53:33 | Cassandra | Yep. |
00:53:43 | Cassandra | Or if I boot holding menu. |
00:55:51 | Cassandra | Is there some way to actually turn the iPod off? |
00:56:42 | linuxstb_ | Nope :) |
00:57:04 | linuxstb_ | No STOP button, and no OFF button... |
00:57:24 | Cassandra | That's not so good. |
00:57:31 | linuxstb_ | Have you tried "diagnostics mode" (hold rewind and select when booting) |
00:57:42 | linuxstb_ | I recall preglow saying there is a sleep option in there. |
00:58:58 | Cassandra | Sleepshort? |
00:59:21 | linuxstb_ | I don't know - diagnostics mode doesn't work on my ipod. |
00:59:41 | linuxstb_ | (an Apple bug I think - the LCD remains blank) |
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01:00:31 | Cassandra | Thanks, that's probably the best I'm going to manage. |
01:00:31 | linuxstb_ | Or you could just restore the original boot partition image. |
01:00:44 | linuxstb_ | Holding play in the Apple firmware sends it to sleep. |
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01:04:16 | webguest55 | how intuitive |
01:04:24 | webguest55 | "Press start to shut down" comes to mind. |
01:07:05 | Cassandra | Bit of a faff to reinstall the image every time. |
01:07:15 | webguest55 | someone should add unicode to the feature comparison chart |
01:07:18 | Cassandra | That's what I said when the Apple users told me. |
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01:09:47 | webguest84 | could someone take a look at the default volume setting? (H140), its set to max as default ! |
01:10:37 | webguest84 | amiconn ^ |
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01:11:41 | linuxstb_ | webguest84: Looking at the code, it's set to -25dB by default |
01:12:17 | linuxstb_ | But there is a problem when loading old config files. |
01:12:41 | Cassandra | webguest55, you probably need to delete your old config file. |
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01:13:15 | PaulJ | webguest55, Cassandra: thr iriverfirmware also uses a long press on play to shut down (on the non LCD remote) |
01:13:42 | webguest55 | PaulJ: It so does not. Unless y ou're talking h3x0 |
01:13:49 | webguest55 | webguest55: Not me! |
01:14:56 | webguest55 | Default setting on h1x0 appears to be -25. |
01:15:27 | webguest55 | Or rather, it *is* -25 - jsut checked |
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01:19:31 | qweasd | hi guys |
01:19:44 | qweasd | ive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc |
01:19:52 | qweasd | is there a way wich i can test rockboy |
01:20:00 | qweasd | or can i only do that on my iriver? |
01:21:05 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) |
01:21:30 | qweasd | ive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc |
01:21:30 | qweasd | is there a way wich i can test rockboy |
01:21:30 | qweasd | or can i only do that on my iriver? |
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01:21:54 | qweasd | ive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc |
01:21:54 | qweasd | is there a way wich i can test rockboy |
01:21:54 | qweasd | or can i only do that on my iriver? |
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01:22:53 | qweasd | ive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc |
01:22:53 | qweasd | is there a way wich i can test rockboy |
01:22:53 | qweasd | or can i only do that on my iriver? |
01:22:53 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK qweasd |
01:22:53 | qweasd | ive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc |
01:22:53 | qweasd | is there a way wich i can test rockboy |
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01:23:37 | qweasd | ive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc |
01:23:37 | qweasd | is there a way wich i can test rockboy |
01:23:37 | qweasd | or can i only do that on my iriver? |
01:23:49 | qweasd | some one help |
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01:24:13 | * | LinusN hears an echo |
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01:24:40 | qweasd | ive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc |
01:24:40 | qweasd | is there a way wich i can test rockboy |
01:24:40 | qweasd | or can i only do that on my iriver? |
01:25:04 | Cassandra | Wow, it's almost as though someone were asking to get kickbanned. |
01:25:17 | * | LinusN hears an echo again |
01:25:19 | qweasd | sorry |
01:25:32 | qweasd | :( |
01:26:11 | LinusN | i don't know if rockboy works in the sim |
01:26:32 | qweasd | is there a way i cant find out? |
01:26:40 | webguest55 | try it |
01:26:44 | Cassandra | Just run the plugin. |
01:26:49 | qweasd | is there a way that i can view files like music with the sim? |
01:27:24 | qweasd | rockboy isnt in the "browse plugins" |
01:27:37 | Cassandra | Then it doesn't work. |
01:27:38 | LinusN | qweasd: you are supposed to play the rom file |
01:27:52 | Cassandra | I didn't know that. |
01:28:38 | qweasd | how do i do that? |
01:28:47 | Midgey34 | LinusN: rockboy works fines in the sim here |
01:28:54 | LinusN | good |
01:29:07 | qweasd | how did u get it to work? |
01:29:13 | Jungti1234 | hmm. |
01:29:14 | webguest55 | qweasd: just press right or select on a .gb file |
01:29:43 | Midgey34 | go to the file browser, select a .gb file and press the navi button (5 on the h300 sim) |
01:30:17 | qweasd | cheers |
01:30:23 | qweasd | thanks:D :D :D |
01:31:05 | Midgey34 | wow, rockboy flies on the sim, apparently there's no throttling |
01:32:13 | Jungti1234 | What is 'internal_rom_000000-3FFFFF.bin'? |
01:32:25 | qweasd | any one here do C programming? |
01:32:40 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: Any comments about this patch? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rtc.diff It's a slight restructuring of the Archos rtc code so I can add rtc_read_datetime() and rtc_write_datetime() functions for the pcf50606 and iPod. |
01:32:42 | Cassandra | No, we all write Rockbox in BASIC. |
01:32:50 | Jungti1234 | There was it to H300 root. |
01:32:59 | qweasd | so how did you learn to do that |
01:33:02 | Midgey34 | qweasd: all the rockbox devs know C - that's what its written in |
01:33:12 | webguest55 | Jungti1234: that is you doing "dump rom contents" in the debug menu |
01:33:32 | qweasd | how did you all learn to encode files? |
01:33:35 | Jungti1234 | ah. hehe.. |
01:34:02 | qweasd | les? |
01:34:02 | qweasd | <Jungti1234> ah. hehe.. |
01:34:06 | qweasd | sorry |
01:34:18 | qweasd | how did you all learn to encode files? |
01:34:29 | webguest55 | What do you mean |
01:34:41 | qweasd | like learn to make plugins and other stuff |
01:34:51 | Jungti1234 | qweasd: Where are you from? |
01:34:59 | qweasd | england |
01:35:08 | LinusN | linuxstb: looks ok |
01:35:35 | Midgey34 | qweasd: plugins are primarily written in C, like the rest of the rockbox code |
01:36:01 | webguest55 | qweasd: some learnt it in school, other than that, lots of trying and experimentation |
01:36:32 | Midgey34 | alright this is a longshot, but does anyone here know anything about hyperspheres? |
01:37:04 | merbanan | 4d objects ? |
01:37:06 | Midgey34 | I'm trying to derive an equation for a 3-sphere in 4-space. I know the answer, but I can't get to it |
01:37:22 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: No objections to me committing it then? I've tested it on my recv1 and it still works fine. I know it's trivial, but I don't like changing/creating APIs without a second opinion. |
01:37:24 | Midgey34 | merbanan: its some stupid abstract calculus |
01:37:35 | Cassandra | I owe everything i know to Messrs. Kernigan and Richie. |
01:37:53 | Cassandra | (And a very fallow period when I was working for IBM in '91.) |
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01:38:40 | qweasd | u must have alot of experiance |
01:38:43 | merbanan | Midgey34: I already passed that course so I'm not to any help |
01:38:48 | LinusN | linuxstb: go ahead |
01:38:51 | qweasd | as for me... none:( |
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01:40:21 | qweasd | anyone know of a good tutorial that will help me learn C programming |
01:46:24 | qweasd | anyone know of a good tutorial that will help me learn C programming |
01:46:45 | Jungti1234 | H300 rockbox is time&date setting possible now? |
01:47:00 | LinusN | qweasd: stop repeating yourself |
01:47:06 | xand | pwn3d |
01:47:20 | LinusN | Jungti1234: not quite yet |
01:48:19 | Jungti1234 | Then, what is "Use the abstract SETTINGS_ defines instead of the target-specific BUTTON_ defines for the time/date settings screen-in preparation for H300/iPod RTC support"? |
01:48:54 | LinusN | Jungti1234: "in preparation" |
01:49:09 | Jungti1234 | hahaha.. sorry |
01:49:24 | Jungti1234 | I wait more. |
01:50:09 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: I've committed that patch. All I've done on the h300 is here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/h300-rtc.diff |
01:51:11 | LinusN | linuxstb: ok, so now we need to find a clean solution to the i2c problem |
01:52:13 | LinusN | one solution is to disable the interrupt when we read the rtc |
01:52:38 | LinusN | maybe even read one byte at a time and enable the irq in between |
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01:55:35 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: Is the alternative to read it in a tick function - in a similar way to the adc_tick? Do you know how frequently the status bar code is run? |
01:55:47 | LinusN | not often |
01:59:23 | LinusN | otoh, reading 7 bytes doesn't take *that*long, ~25us per byte in 124MHz |
02:00 |
02:00:56 | LinusN | the problem is that it gets slower in 45MHz |
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02:03:36 | tucoz | Cassandra, still around? |
02:04:44 | tucoz | I posted a LaTeX version of the 2.4 manual in the forums. I think that should only serve as a cut-and-paste basis |
02:06:33 | tucoz | It was generated with writer2latex, and I didn't look at it very much. Maybe it is possible to have that program to split the chapters into separate files, but I think it is easier to do that ourselves. |
02:09:06 | linuxstb_ | This could help with the "conditional compilation" problem: ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/optional.sty |
02:09:49 | tucoz | linuxstb, the target specific doc issue? |
02:10:14 | linuxstb_ | Yes. |
02:10:58 | LinusN | i'm a tex n00b, how do i compile it? |
02:11:08 | tucoz | LinusN, which one? |
02:11:17 | LinusN | the manual |
02:11:28 | tucoz | I see, latex filename.tex |
02:11:48 | tucoz | running out of juice in my laptop |
02:12:03 | tucoz | dvips filename to get a ps file |
02:12:12 | tucoz | just press enter on the error lines |
02:12:16 | tucoz | when compiling |
02:12:23 | LinusN | a shitload of warnings and errors and then a "?" prompt |
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02:12:34 | tucoz | yes, press enter on the prompt |
02:12:45 | LinusN | LaTeX Error: File `amsmath.sty' not found |
02:12:49 | tucoz | hehe |
02:13:11 | tucoz | got to go, out of battery. |
02:13:31 | tucoz | there are probably some tex-wizards around. I am just a user. |
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02:14:08 | LinusN | never mind, i'll work on the stuff i know instead :-) |
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02:18:45 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: If you are using Debian, you probably haven't installed the tetex-extra package |
02:19:07 | LinusN | installing... |
02:20:06 | PaulJ | LinusN: will it be possible to change the backlightintensity on h3x0, or is this not planned? (it's a little too bright for my taste) |
02:20:43 | LinusN | i have no plans for it |
02:21:01 | LinusN | you see, it can be changed slightly, but it flickers at lower intensities |
02:22:27 | PaulJ | ok |
02:22:35 | NightCat | My DAP doesn' booting up... |
02:22:57 | LinusN | linuxstb: it worked better, but it still chokes: |
02:23:00 | LinusN | Paragraph ended before \Hy@setref@link was complete. |
02:23:01 | NightCat | What is the error: I04:IllInstr? |
02:23:11 | LinusN | ! Missing } inserted. |
02:23:23 | LinusN | NightCat: illegal instruction |
02:23:47 | LinusN | NightCat: which often means that it tries to execute garbage |
02:24:25 | NightCat | I change the default colors in lcd.h... |
02:24:48 | NightCat | #define LCD_BLACK LCD_RGBPACK(52, 5, 255) |
02:25:04 | NightCat | and |
02:25:06 | NightCat | #define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(0, 0, 0) |
02:25:46 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: I got lots of errors when compiling it - just keep your finger on the enter key |
02:25:54 | LinusN | i did |
02:25:56 | NightCat | Could someone help? |
02:26:16 | LinusN | NightCat: i'm trying to, but you haven't told me what you did |
02:26:36 | NightCat | I repeat: |
02:26:55 | LinusN | linuxstb: looks AWFUL, i gotta fix the fonts somehow |
02:27:03 | NightCat | I change the default colors in lcd.h... |
02:27:03 | NightCat | #define LCD_BLACK LCD_RGBPACK(52, 5, 255) |
02:27:03 | NightCat | and |
02:27:03 | NightCat | #define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(0, 0, 0)#define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(0, 0, 0) /* rockbox blue */ |
02:27:04 | LinusN | bitmap fonts |
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02:27:14 | LinusN | NightCat: i know that, you just wrote that |
02:27:27 | NightCat | Sorry then... |
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02:27:40 | LinusN | NightCat: but what did you do to compile it? |
02:27:55 | LinusN | NightCat: have you compiled and run your own rockbox binaries before? |
02:28:10 | NightCat | run configure then make then make zip... |
02:28:23 | NightCat | Only on simulator... |
02:28:45 | NightCat | On sim it works fine = no errors but on target... |
02:29:03 | LinusN | NightCat: you tried to run a simulator build on the target? |
02:29:13 | NightCat | O course no :) |
02:29:20 | NightCat | O = Of |
02:29:25 | LinusN | (that would have explained the illinstr) |
02:29:36 | LinusN | try "make clean" |
02:29:46 | linuxstb_ | LinusN: You're right, that version is poor. Did you try the example tucoz posted in his first message in that thread? |
02:29:46 | NightCat | instead of make? |
02:30:03 | LinusN | linuxstb: no i didn't |
02:30:08 | LinusN | NightCat: before make |
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02:38:51 | NightCat | LinusN: The same problem... |
02:39:12 | NightCat | Is there any restrictions for colors? |
02:39:32 | LinusN | NightCat: what cross compiler are you using? |
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02:39:40 | NightCat | cigwin |
02:39:55 | LinusN | NightCat: cygwin isn't a cross compiler |
02:40:52 | NightCat | I have installed a cygwin and get the source from cvs... |
02:41:24 | NightCat | Is gcc a cross compiler? |
02:42:33 | LinusN | NightCat: how did you build rockbox.iriver? |
02:43:31 | NightCat | For the first I do this instructions: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
02:44:28 | LinusN | ok, so you installed the m68k-elf-gcc from erics site? |
02:44:32 | NightCat | Then I take source from cvs: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.html |
02:44:56 | NightCat | I take rockbox-devel version |
02:46:07 | NightCat | Then change 2 lines in lcd.h |
02:46:39 | NightCat | Then create "sim" dir and run configure -> make -> make install there |
02:46:50 | NightCat | Then run simulator and it works |
02:47:15 | LinusN | ok, then what? |
02:47:23 | NightCat | Then create "build" dir and run configure -> make -> make zip |
02:47:58 | NightCat | Then extract all from new rockbox.zip file (in build dir) to my H320... |
02:48:09 | NightCat | Then reboot it... And... |
02:48:22 | NightCat | Error... |
02:49:41 | LinusN | interesting |
02:49:54 | LinusN | i assume that it doesn't work if you change back the colors? |
02:50:26 | NightCat | I didn't try... |
02:50:32 | LinusN | i guess it won't work |
02:50:43 | LinusN | ok, so you installed the m68k-elf-gcc from erics site? |
02:50:49 | NightCat | I try it in 2 minutes... |
02:50:59 | NightCat | Yes |
02:52:49 | LinusN | i'm not sure if that compiler works that well, nobody tried it for ages |
02:57:39 | webguest26 | ? |
02:58:28 | webguest26 | Have a minute for a question LinusN? |
02:58:40 | LinusN | most windoze devs either use bluechip's devkit or build their own cross compiler |
02:58:44 | LinusN | webguest26: shoot |
02:59:18 | webguest26 | I have JBR V2 and a JBR FM on the way. What voltage car adapter should each one have? |
02:59:32 | LinusN | 6V |
02:59:35 | LinusN | regulated |
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03:00:19 | NightCat | It doesn't works at all... |
03:00:30 | webguest26 | OK. Thanks. Getting a variety of answers. I trust yours. |
03:00:39 | LinusN | NightCat: then i think the cross compiler is broken |
03:00:50 | NightCat | Where can I get the normal working compiler? |
03:01:09 | LinusN | build it |
03:01:24 | NightCat | (I mean a good step by step guide howto make it :) |
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03:01:45 | LinusN | NightCat: try the "documentation" section on rockbox.org |
03:02:11 | NightCat | I already try it and here is the result you see.... |
03:03:03 | LinusN | NightCat: look for "building the cross compiler" |
03:03:06 | NightCat | Or maybe this guide: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
03:03:11 | LinusN | exactly |
03:03:21 | NightCat | And it will roks? |
03:03:28 | LinusN | yup |
03:03:28 | NightCat | roks=works? |
03:03:36 | NightCat | Ok... |
03:04:04 | NightCat | Just spend all day for cygwin and :) |
03:04:17 | NightCat | it doesn't works :) |
03:04:21 | LinusN | sorry about that |
03:04:49 | NightCat | It's all right. We are a programmists :) |
03:06:35 | NightCat | I have a file gcc-core-3.4.4-1.tar.bz2 is it a right one? |
03:08:03 | Lost-ash | 3.4.4-1? sounds like a precompiled version or something. |
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03:08:13 | ashridah | NightCat: where did you get it? |
03:08:35 | NightCat | It downloads when I installing sygwin |
03:09:04 | ashridah | okay, that'll probably be a prebuilt compiler for x86. you need a cross compiler, which you'll need to build yourself. |
03:09:22 | NightCat | Ok. |
03:12:26 | LinusN | linuxstb: you broke the archos sims |
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03:12:38 | ashridah | haha. |
03:12:43 | NightCat | Wich gcc to download? |
03:12:45 | ashridah | you shamed him off the server |
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03:13:28 | ashridah | NightCat: a download of gcc-core-3.4.5.tar.bz2 will work (there's a link to a site you can find that on the CrossCompiler link you mentioned earlier) |
03:14:09 | ashridah | but i'm not sure what you'd need to do about the issue with binutils and gcc 3.4.x that page mentions |
03:14:09 | NightCat | I find that bud there are many versions. |
03:15:17 | NightCat | There is 3.4.0 3.4.1 3.4.2 3.4.3 3.4.4 3.4.5 4.0.0 4.0.1 4.0.2 |
03:16:16 | ashridah | 3.4.5 should do the trick. i don't think anyone's used 4.0 on cygwin yet |
03:16:30 | ashridah | at least, they might have, but i don't know if it'd work. |
03:16:57 | LinusN | linuxstb: ah, i see you already fixed it |
03:17:03 | LinusN | ok, i'm going to bed |
03:17:07 | LinusN | nite all |
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03:18:27 | NightCat | I have to have some sleep too... |
03:18:37 | NightCat | Goodnight... |
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04:12:49 | lush | hello? |
04:12:59 | lush | is anyone home? |
04:13:03 | lush | =/ |
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04:17:48 | keilj | lo people |
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04:20:00 | lush | hello? |
04:20:58 | Membrillo | yo |
04:21:15 | lush | do you use the rockbox firmware? |
04:21:23 | Membrillo | I do |
04:21:30 | Membrillo | on my iRiver h300 |
04:21:57 | lush | do you like it? |
04:22:05 | Membrillo | very much so |
04:22:12 | lush | i have an h120 |
04:22:18 | Membrillo | it kicks the original firmware in the rectum |
04:22:18 | lush | using the iriver firmware |
04:22:40 | lush | i have no complaints other than the lag in between songs |
04:22:48 | Membrillo | well h120 fixes that up |
04:23:02 | Membrillo | and rockbox has a whole lot of added features you would enjoy |
04:23:11 | lush | hows the ease of use? |
04:23:15 | Membrillo | its also dual-boot, which means you can use the original firmware OR rockbox |
04:23:35 | lush | thats kel |
04:23:44 | lush | *kewl |
04:23:58 | Membrillo | i dont have an h120, but the firmware is designed for ease of use with plenty of features |
04:24:05 | Membrillo | id try it |
04:24:13 | Membrillo | if you dont like it, get rid of it :) |
04:24:35 | Membrillo | but id put a lot of money on that you will find it worthwhile if you give it a shot |
04:24:38 | Jungti1234 | I have an h120 |
04:24:42 | lush | yeah i also heard the stock firmware is on a rom chip inside the player |
04:24:53 | Jungti1234 | h300 too. hehe |
04:25:05 | lush | how do you recall it? |
04:25:12 | lush | is the reset button? |
04:25:46 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: I just did the h120 and h100 versions of my RB downloader. Can you test the h120 version? |
04:26:02 | Jungti1234 | wait |
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04:27:10 | Jungti1234 | Come again after re-booting. |
04:27:12 | Jungti1234 | sorry |
04:27:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | lush: You hold down record while booting if you want to boot into the stock firmware. Once there you can firmware upgrade back to the original. |
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04:27:34 | lush | ok |
04:27:51 | lush | yeah im a noob to the whole open source gig |
04:28:14 | Membrillo | its alright lush :P you dont have to compile the source at all. Its actually very easy to install rockbox |
04:28:25 | lush | nice |
04:28:29 | Membrillo | and remove if needs be |
04:28:34 | lush | yeah, ive been thinking about it for some time |
04:28:44 | lush | ive downloaded some files from the rockbox site |
04:28:53 | lush | and will most likely play with it tonite |
04:28:58 | Membrillo | good idea |
04:29:09 | Membrillo | there are plenty of guides on the site if you look around |
04:29:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Coming from the native firmware, it may feel slightly confusing at first. But everyone who's really given it a chance tends to prefer. |
04:30:22 | lush | yeah |
04:31:35 | lush | what about mp3 encoding |
04:31:40 | lush | does it support that? |
04:32:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not yet. |
04:33:03 | lush | =/ |
04:33:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Right now the recording only supports wav. |
04:33:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | The wavs can then be compressed by a plugin to lossless wavpack. |
04:33:37 | lush | nice |
04:33:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, Rockbox for Iriver isn't at a "release" state yet, so not all features are done. |
04:33:44 | lush | yeah |
04:33:46 | lush | i read ithat |
04:33:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | The Recording is probably the major weak point left. |
04:33:54 | lush | its still in r/d |
04:33:59 | lush | or beta |
04:34:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though you *can* record from FM Radio now, apparently |
04:37:41 | lush | hows stability? |
04:38:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, usually very very good |
04:38:35 | lush | usually? |
04:38:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Every now and then a new build will come out and introduce a crash of some sort. |
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04:38:54 | lush | o ok |
04:39:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | But that's only really a problem if you're someone who downloads the cutting edge builds every time you see a change committed. |
04:39:25 | Jungti1234 | hi |
04:39:31 | lush | i use my player every day |
04:39:33 | lush | all day |
04:39:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Otherwise, you'll download a daily build and be fine. |
04:39:37 | lush | pretty much |
04:39:52 | lush | ive had it for a year now |
04:40:01 | lush | and only one complaint |
04:40:03 | Jungti1234 | hey Membrillo |
04:40:04 | Membrillo | in otherwords, bugs are fixed pretty quickly :) |
04:40:08 | Membrillo | yo |
04:40:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's that complaint, lush? |
04:40:27 | Jungti1234 | I came back. |
04:40:54 | lush | it lags when i switch songs |
04:41:04 | lush | sometimes up to 5 seconds |
04:41:17 | Membrillo | yeah, you need the gapless playback that only rockbox supplies |
04:41:26 | lush | lol |
04:41:38 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: thanks, ill just fix the last few bugs then upload it |
04:41:50 | lush | just how exactly do i restore it to the old irive fw |
04:41:57 | lush | i rem hearing something |
04:42:03 | lush | that if you hold the reset button and record |
04:42:10 | Membrillo | if you hold record while booting, you go into the orig FW |
04:42:16 | lush | thats it/ |
04:42:18 | lush | ? |
04:42:23 | Membrillo | yeah |
04:42:49 | Membrillo | well, to delete it completely you reflash with plain original iriver FW downloaded from the iriver site |
04:43:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then you run go through the firmware upgrade process with an official iriver firmware file. |
04:43:07 | Membrillo | but just to boot to the original you can hold down record |
04:43:28 | lush | sounds kewl |
04:48:08 | lush | so the basic installation goes like this |
04:48:18 | lush | i get the latests fw on the player |
04:48:23 | lush | patch it |
04:48:38 | lush | and upload it to the player and updgrade it? |
04:48:49 | Membrillo | flash the firmware that you patched |
04:48:53 | Membrillo | yep |
04:49:04 | lush | thats it? |
04:49:04 | Membrillo | and put a daily build on your iRiver root |
04:49:12 | lush | folder? |
04:49:31 | Jungti1234 | yes |
04:49:38 | lush | ok what if something happens durring this process |
04:49:46 | lush | how do i recover the fw? |
04:49:47 | Membrillo | it'll be a .rockbox folder and a rockbox.iriver process |
04:50:23 | Membrillo | theres been VERY little problems with the process |
04:50:36 | lush | ok |
04:50:39 | Membrillo | oops folder before^ ;) i was reading and typing hah |
04:50:45 | lush | but what if im the fewww |
04:50:47 | lush | what do i do? |
04:50:58 | Membrillo | its usually just people being stupid |
04:51:06 | Membrillo | come back here and tell us if there is a problem |
04:51:10 | Membrillo | its usually fixable |
04:51:14 | Jungti1234 | lush: Where are you from? |
04:51:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only way you can really harm the player is if fwpatcher creates a bad file. And it does a check on it. |
04:51:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | So really, you'd have to actuall screw up the file when copying it to the player somehow. |
04:52:00 | lush | k |
04:52:01 | * | Paul_The_Nerd can't imagine how you'd do that unless you unplugged it in the middle of the transfer leaving a corrupt file. |
04:52:02 | Membrillo | you have to try pretty hard to screw up the process :P |
04:52:11 | lush | im from so cal |
04:55:07 | lush | *southern califorina |
04:56:32 | Jungti1234 | hehe.. I know. |
04:57:08 | Jungti1234 | But, it took long time to know it. |
04:57:13 | lush | lol |
04:59:02 | DrumRBoy|Away | i've screwed it up twice |
04:59:44 | DrumRBoy|Away | linus says its probably cause my player is just one of those that dosent like a thing or two rockbox does. after i get it to start up once tho, it works fine |
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05:00:12 | DrumRBoy|Away | :) |
05:01:24 | Membrillo | DrumRBoy|Away: you have a rebel iriver :P |
05:02:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | DrumRBo|Away: Are you H100, or 300 though? |
05:02:10 | lush | heh |
05:02:17 | lush | do they have open source for ipod? |
05:02:22 | lush | hehe |
05:02:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | lush: A port of Rockbox to iPod is in the early stages. |
05:03:08 | lush | wow |
05:03:15 | lush | you guys really have some free time |
05:03:24 | Membrillo | that and theres a lot of them :P |
05:03:27 | lush | will it work on the newer h1o series |
05:03:28 | lush | ? |
05:03:33 | Membrillo | The RB devs are multiplying |
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05:04:37 | Membrillo | theyre breeeding |
05:04:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | The H10s haven't really been looked at from what I've heard. It was mentioned briefly in here, but I don't think it's really in the line at all as far as I've heard. |
05:04:48 | lush | drats |
05:04:50 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is by no means an authority on such things. |
05:06:17 | Membrillo | how does the PMP's hardware compare to the H300? |
05:06:29 | Membrillo | totally different? |
05:07:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | No clue. Isn't the PMP open source already, or am I confusing it with something else? |
05:07:18 | Membrillo | nah PMP hasnt been started yet |
05:07:29 | Membrillo | h100 and h120 RB downloaders are done |
05:07:34 | Membrillo | http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/membrillo/H100RockboxDownloader.zip |
05:07:40 | Jungti1234 | ok |
05:07:40 | Membrillo | http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/membrillo/H120RockboxDownloader.zip |
05:07:45 | Jungti1234 | I interest to Cowon A2. |
05:08:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, Membrillo, I didn't say Rockbox. I said Open Source. I thought the official firmware was actually GPL licensed. |
05:08:16 | Membrillo | oh really?? |
05:08:18 | Membrillo | i dont think so |
05:08:25 | Membrillo | that would be bizzare |
05:08:39 | Membrillo | i cant see iriver releasing it open source |
05:08:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think that it's linux based. |
05:08:58 | Membrillo | wow |
05:09:07 | Membrillo | if it is, i have no knowledge of it |
05:09:10 | Membrillo | pretty cool though |
05:09:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm about 95% sure the PMP-120 is linux based... |
05:11:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | ftp://ftp.gpl-devices.org/pub/vendors/iRiver/PMP-1xx/ I think this is the source code for it. |
05:11:42 | Membrillo | coolio |
05:11:51 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: did you try the h1xx dler? |
05:11:55 | Membrillo | whichever you own |
05:12:08 | Jungti1234 | I'm trying. |
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05:13:04 | Jungti1234 | What do I test? |
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05:14:33 | Membrillo | whats all those random symbols? |
05:14:38 | Membrillo | just click yes |
05:14:43 | Jungti1234 | It yet not release do. |
05:15:03 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
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05:15:11 | Jungti1234 | runtime error |
05:15:20 | Membrillo | what..... |
05:15:21 | Membrillo | ? |
05:15:38 | Jungti1234 | I don't know. |
05:15:47 | Jungti1234 | It's Korean. |
05:15:58 | Membrillo | right |
05:16:06 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
05:16:15 | Jungti1234 | maybe 'Form does not conform.' |
05:16:25 | Membrillo | well, 1. i dont have korean fonts installed 2. i couldnt read it if i did |
05:16:50 | Membrillo | so does it work or not? |
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05:17:45 | Jungti1234 | maybe it " '13' run-time error happened.: Form does not conform. " |
05:18:10 | Membrillo | so there is an error and it doesnt work? |
05:18:26 | Jungti1234 | yes |
05:18:49 | Membrillo | when did the error come up? |
05:18:59 | Jungti1234 | Program auto exit do. |
05:19:26 | Jungti1234 | When did download yesterdays build. |
05:21:05 | Membrillo | your making no sense. |
05:21:28 | Jungti1234 | ?? |
05:21:53 | Membrillo | does anyone else own an h100 or h120 here? |
05:22:03 | Jungti1234 | Did you understand my speech? |
05:22:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | I do membrillo |
05:22:35 | Membrillo | paul can you test my rockbox downloader? the h300 version works, but i need someone to test the h100 and h120 versions |
05:22:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay. |
05:22:58 | Membrillo | what model do you have? |
05:23:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | H120 |
05:23:13 | Membrillo | ok |
05:23:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | I saw the link up there |
05:23:17 | Membrillo | yep |
05:23:21 | Membrillo | put it on your root |
05:23:24 | Membrillo | and run the EXE |
05:23:41 | Membrillo | there should be three files to put on your root |
05:23:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
05:23:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems to download fine. |
05:24:10 | Jungti1234 | Complete! |
05:24:22 | Membrillo | it works guys? |
05:24:35 | Membrillo | it should work, but im just making sure |
05:24:36 | Jungti1234 | yes but.. |
05:24:48 | Jungti1234 | its small problem. |
05:24:59 | Membrillo | what problem |
05:25:04 | Membrillo | paul, did you have problems? |
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05:25:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only problem I have is that whatever it downloaded wasn't the bleeding edge. |
05:25:50 | Jungti1234 | When downloaded build of yesterday, problem happens. |
05:26:56 | Membrillo | Paul_The_Nerd: what do you mean |
05:27:12 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: why is that? |
05:27:26 | Jungti1234 | um? |
05:27:33 | Jungti1234 | I don't understand |
05:27:54 | Membrillo | downloading the yesterday build works for me |
05:28:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Membrillo: My mistake. The files were dated differently than if I downloaded and extracted myself. |
05:28:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Like, the file themselves, the last modified date |
05:28:50 | Membrillo | oh right |
05:29:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | But everything seems to be okay |
05:29:06 | Membrillo | so the date tags were changed when you unzipped |
05:29:21 | Membrillo | awesome |
05:29:32 | Membrillo | ill put up a new topic on MR for these versions |
05:29:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I still would rather just download by hand. I don't want the extra files on the unit, 'n all.] |
05:44:29 | Membrillo | ah well |
05:44:38 | Membrillo | i guess some like it others dont |
05:44:46 | Membrillo | i got good reviews for the h300 one |
05:46:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just don't really see the need for it. |
05:47:53 | Membrillo | thats cool |
05:48:30 | Membrillo | i mainly did it for coding experience. Ive only done VB for a term in high school, and i wanted to learn some more and this idea came |
05:48:34 | Jungti1234 | I want to have much players. |
05:49:36 | Membrillo | it saves time and effort, all you have to do is double click the icon, click the command button and then exit |
05:50:16 | Membrillo | saves opening a browser, going to rockbox, going to daily builds, download, extract, and then delete the zip |
05:51:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fair enough. |
05:52:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I usually look at the changelog to see if somethign interesting went in, than build from source. (Right now I'm not using any patches, but it's kinda a habit now) |
05:52:30 | Membrillo | i could have a popup which showed the changelog...? |
05:53:00 | Membrillo | would that be useful? |
05:54:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't know. |
05:54:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just like to visit the page, I think. |
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06:14:13 | joshn_454 | are any of the core devs on? |
06:14:39 | joshn_454 | I'm trying to hack rockbox to pause when switching tracks |
06:15:23 | joshn_454 | I've added a hook in the MPEG_NEXT case of the mpeg.c queue loop, but it doesn't seem to have any effect? |
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06:28:12 | Jungti1234 | If they wake, I will come again here. |
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06:40:26 | joshn_454 | ok, found solution myself. I needed to add the hook in the MPEG_TRACK_CHANGE case |
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06:56:19 | thegeek_ | oh how I wish that there was some way we could implement dolby's headphone sound-processing algo's |
06:56:25 | thegeek_ | they sound fantastic |
06:56:56 | thegeek_ | using it with foobar2000 through a compat-module now, and it _really_ adds a lot of life |
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07:11:24 | DreamTactix291 | i've never tried using that |
07:11:32 | DreamTactix291 | i tend to not like EQ at all |
07:11:58 | thegeek_ | well |
07:12:16 | thegeek_ | I tend to _hate_ any kind of sound processing besides a very mild eq |
07:12:17 | DreamTactix291 | all personal preference |
07:12:19 | thegeek_ | however |
07:12:26 | thegeek_ | this REALLY blows me away |
07:12:46 | DreamTactix291 | i don't even like mild EQ |
07:12:53 | thegeek_ | the sound is very different, but I actually like it |
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07:13:36 | thegeek_ | If you can honestly say that you dont even like mild eq you are one of very few |
07:13:44 | thegeek_ | most people like a little eq |
07:13:49 | DreamTactix291 | i listen to flat |
07:13:59 | thegeek_ | and a lot of "purists" are puristst for the idea itself |
07:14:10 | thegeek_ | besides |
07:14:18 | DreamTactix291 | oh i've tried tweaking EQ before |
07:14:20 | thegeek_ | all parts of the chain will alter your sound |
07:14:24 | DreamTactix291 | i just didn't like how it changed the sound |
07:14:32 | thegeek_ | you might just have very colored equipment |
07:14:36 | DreamTactix291 | i only have like part of the chain that's analogue |
07:14:52 | DreamTactix291 | and that's receiver to speakers |
07:15:13 | DreamTactix291 | i run kernel streaming to my AV-710 and it runs S/PDIF to the receiver |
07:15:19 | thegeek_ | your amp will add a lot of colour |
07:15:25 | thegeek_ | and speakers too |
07:15:31 | thegeek_ | ;) |
07:15:42 | DreamTactix291 | well i'll put it this way |
07:15:48 | DreamTactix291 | i don't tweak it on my own |
07:16:04 | thegeek_ | you should try using foobar2000 and the dolby plugin |
07:16:12 | thegeek_ | it's not an eq really |
07:16:20 | DreamTactix291 | well i use foobar2000 |
07:16:29 | thegeek_ | and it's not like most crappy "improve your sound" plugins |
07:16:53 | DreamTactix291 | i'm one of the few who likes how demos and such sound a lot as well i guess |
07:17:05 | thegeek_ | http://pelit.koillismaa.fi/plugins/redir.php?id=584 |
07:17:14 | thegeek_ | use that foobar2000 plugin |
07:17:18 | thegeek_ | you'll also need DOLBYHPH.DLL |
07:18:12 | thegeek_ | this is ofcourse supposed to work with headphones |
07:19:25 | DreamTactix291 | yeah i don't have dolbyhph.dll |
07:19:43 | thegeek_ | I use the optical (bitperfect) out from my motherboard with a nonoversampling dac (dac-ah) directly outputting to my sennheisier 595's |
07:20:10 | DreamTactix291 | i usually listen on speakers |
07:20:20 | DreamTactix291 | when i use headphones it's my Sennheiser HD212 Pros usually |
07:20:33 | thegeek_ | http://ninjarape.net/dolbyhph.dll |
07:20:53 | thegeek_ | be sure to test all the 3 modes of the plugin, to find the one you prefer |
07:22:26 | DreamTactix291 | hmm |
07:22:33 | DreamTactix291 | i think i like it better without personally |
07:23:27 | thegeek_ | pah! ;) |
07:23:40 | DreamTactix291 | i'm trying some Dream Theater with the different modes |
07:25:47 | DreamTactix291 | yeah i like it more without |
07:27:02 | DreamTactix291 | my ideal system one day will add as little colour to the sound as possible |
07:27:10 | DreamTactix291 | but i doubt i'll ever get there |
07:28:23 | DreamTactix291 | completely unrelated point but is anyone else here sick of all newer albums having almost no dynamics and many of them clipping? |
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07:30:36 | DreamTactix291 | ok almost all |
07:30:37 | DreamTactix291 | hello |
07:30:57 | WireDDD | hello |
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07:36:01 | thegeek_ | DreamTactix291 |
07:36:04 | thegeek_ | that will never happen |
07:36:14 | thegeek_ | all music has colour added |
07:36:14 | DreamTactix291 | that's why i said as close as possible |
07:36:49 | thegeek_ | most cd's today are edited/mixed/dynamically compressed A LOT |
07:36:54 | DreamTactix291 | i've noticed |
07:36:56 | DreamTactix291 | trust me |
07:37:04 | thegeek_ | so even if you could reproduce a cd perfectly |
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07:37:23 | thegeek_ | you'll never fullfill your purist dream;) |
07:37:24 | thegeek_ | hehe |
07:37:27 | thegeek_ | I've given up |
07:37:35 | thegeek_ | I'm just going with what sounds good |
07:37:48 | DreamTactix291 | i'm just sick of hearing clipping in everything mostly |
07:37:48 | DreamTactix291 | well |
07:37:53 | thegeek_ | oh yes |
07:37:54 | DreamTactix291 | that and there being no range at all |
07:37:58 | DreamTactix291 | that gets old too |
07:38:01 | DreamTactix291 | makes me tired |
07:38:02 | thegeek_ | indeed |
07:38:21 | DreamTactix291 | like right now |
07:38:30 | DreamTactix291 | i'm listening to the only Dream Theater album that i think was mastered properly |
07:38:39 | thegeek_ | mhm |
07:38:45 | DreamTactix291 | Images and Words |
07:40:54 | Membrillo | anyone who works on the rockbox site, is there a URL which just shows the Recent CVS activity thats constantly updating? |
07:40:59 | DreamTactix291 | after playing guitar for 7 years i'm taking up another instrument as well which is cool |
07:41:21 | thegeek_ | for the record; the "live" setting is the best for the dolby headphone plugin, it does not kill vocals |
07:41:36 | DreamTactix291 | i noticed |
07:41:38 | thegeek_ | heh |
07:41:43 | DreamTactix291 | :) |
07:41:48 | thegeek_ | I played alt saxophone for 9 years |
07:41:51 | thegeek_ | then I quit |
07:42:07 | DreamTactix291 | i kinda took a long break from guitar |
07:42:12 | DreamTactix291 | and have picked it back up |
07:42:19 | thegeek_ | I'm thinking about starting again, but there's just so much that makes it hard right now;) |
07:42:22 | DreamTactix291 | i'm not especially musically talented but i enjoy it |
07:42:26 | Membrillo | ^^^ does anyone know? can i get a page with just the recent CVS actibity |
07:42:27 | DreamTactix291 | i'm taking up the keyboard |
07:42:41 | Membrillo | activity* |
07:42:43 | thegeek_ | I wish I knew how to play the piano |
07:42:46 | thegeek_ | like, really well |
07:42:50 | DreamTactix291 | me too |
07:42:53 | DreamTactix291 | hopefully i will |
07:44:19 | DreamTactix291 | most of what i listen has some mean keyboard work in it |
07:44:28 | thegeek_ | hehe |
07:44:35 | thegeek_ | I listen to so much wierd stuff |
07:44:41 | DreamTactix291 | i'm a prog rock fan |
07:44:52 | thegeek_ | from bulgarian all-female choir's to marily manson to gwen stefani |
07:46:31 | DreamTactix291 | most of what i listen to is progressive rock/metal |
07:47:25 | thegeek_ | hehe |
07:47:28 | thegeek_ | that's nice |
07:47:30 | thegeek_ | but gets boring |
07:47:46 | DreamTactix291 | not usually to me |
07:47:55 | thegeek_ | I could never stick to just one kind of music |
07:47:57 | DreamTactix291 | but i lean more towards prog metal |
07:48:02 | DreamTactix291 | oh i'll try anything |
07:48:06 | DreamTactix291 | that's just what i like most |
07:48:11 | thegeek_ | mhm |
07:48:18 | thegeek_ | I do ofcourse prefer some styles |
07:48:26 | thegeek_ | but I dont have one fav |
07:48:32 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
07:48:34 | DreamTactix291 | for example |
07:48:46 | DreamTactix291 | if you'd told me a year ago i'd be listening to Opeth now i'd have said you were crazy |
07:48:51 | DreamTactix291 | but here i am |
07:48:54 | DreamTactix291 | i listen to Opeth |
07:49:04 | DreamTactix291 | because i heard mikael akerfeldt sing in the human equation |
07:49:09 | DreamTactix291 | then heard him sing in damnation |
07:49:18 | DreamTactix291 | then worked my way towards the heavy opeth stuff |
07:49:26 | DreamTactix291 | it's all interlinked for me |
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09:24:00 | Jungti1234 | hi |
09:27:37 | cannard | anyong |
09:34:34 | Jungti1234 | MPEG-21 is DRM? |
09:45:23 | cannard | hmm i think it is a drm framework |
09:45:30 | cannard | not a codec, according to wiki anyway |
09:52:01 | Jungti1234 | ah |
09:52:04 | Jungti1234 | thank you |
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10:07:42 | _FireFly_ | moin :) |
10:08:08 | XavierGr | Hi _FireFly_. |
10:09:02 | _FireFly_ | wow that was fast :) |
10:09:15 | _FireFly_ | my patch is commited |
10:09:31 | XavierGr | Lucky |
10:09:40 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
10:10:17 | XavierGr | I am optimizing my jpeg file scroller now. (I didn't bother yet with the sorting) |
10:10:25 | _FireFly_ | bug-fixes have an higher priority it seams |
10:10:26 | Jungti1234 | hi |
10:12:42 | XavierGr | _FireFly_: Let's assume that I have an integer pointer. |
10:12:56 | XavierGr | and a function that returns a pointer. |
10:13:15 | _FireFly_ | yes? |
10:13:28 | XavierGr | if pointer = function() the pointer will get the address returned from the function right? |
10:13:34 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
10:13:42 | XavierGr | what if... |
10:14:01 | _FireFly_ | but if you return a address to var which was declared inside the fn then the pointer is invalid |
10:14:04 | XavierGr | I want the next (int) address memory to get the output of the function? |
10:14:19 | _FireFly_ | ?? |
10:14:30 | XavierGr | something like poiter + 1 * sizeof(int) = function. |
10:15:16 | XavierGr | (maybe I will not need it, I am just asking to learn it) |
10:15:22 | XavierGr | is it possible? |
10:15:51 | _FireFly_ | does the fn returns the start adress of an integer-array ?? |
10:16:33 | XavierGr | now that I think it, I think my question is stupid... |
10:16:53 | _FireFly_ | it seams because i have no clue what do you want to know :) |
10:17:36 | XavierGr | ah what the hell I wil tell you even if it is stupid, at least I will get to learn something. |
10:18:02 | XavierGr | As you remember yesterday I used a pointer integer to have all seek positions of a file. |
10:18:25 | _FireFly_ | an int array i thought |
10:18:38 | _FireFly_ | which you have given the qsort-fn as parameter |
10:18:49 | Jungti1234 | When does unicode input support in rockbox? |
10:19:06 | XavierGr | I used pointer = get_plugin_buffer() to get the adress of the memory that the plugin doesn't use |
10:19:23 | _FireFly_ | and then ?? |
10:19:36 | Jungti1234 | I want Hangul(Korean alphabet) input. |
10:19:36 | Cassandra | Jungti1234, about a week ago. |
10:20:10 | Cassandra | I presume you mean Unicode output. |
10:20:16 | Jungti1234 | It doesn't support now. |
10:20:25 | Jungti1234 | hehe.. |
10:20:29 | Jungti1234 | no |
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10:20:33 | _FireFly_ | Cassandra: he mean the vkeyboard |
10:20:42 | Cassandra | Ah. |
10:21:00 | XavierGr | well truth is that I thought this function a a malloc but it isn't. plugin_get_buffer will get an integer as an argument and it will adjust the integer to the size of the remnant plugin memory and return the first address that isn't used in the end of the plugin. |
10:21:02 | _FireFly_ | it doesn't support other char currently as the currently given one |
10:21:08 | Cassandra | Now that is a mystery. |
10:21:12 | Midgey34 | Sokoban patch added to the tracker... feel free to take a look |
10:21:20 | Cassandra | I'm not even sure it's plausible to implement. |
10:21:31 | Cassandra | But then I'm no unicode expert. |
10:22:23 | XavierGr | anyway _FireFly_ thanks for the help, I will not need what I told you. It was stupid after all. ;p |
10:22:29 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
10:22:47 | Jungti1234 | Must it develop myself? |
10:22:58 | XavierGr | As much as I hated pointers at the start, now I begin to fall in love with them. |
10:23:04 | _FireFly_ | Jungti1234: if you can why not |
10:23:48 | _FireFly_ | if you increment an integer pointer the new address in the pointer points to the next valid adress |
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10:25:06 | XavierGr | good point is that rockbox puts the whole plugin in the start of the plugin memory so if the plugin is small (or it fits) the rest of the memory is free to use for your needs. |
10:26:53 | XavierGr | _FireFly_: What do you think that instead of using qsort to sort the list I could always sort it when I write the list manually. |
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10:27:14 | XavierGr | What would be more efficient? |
10:27:37 | _FireFly_ | which list do you want to sort manually ?? |
10:28:48 | _FireFly_ | you have an array of the seek-points of each string in the file am i right ?? |
10:29:06 | XavierGr | the yesterday list. In the program I have a loop that will read each jpeg file on the folder and then write it to the file. On each input I could sort it. Of course then again I must sort again all the rest entries. |
10:29:11 | XavierGr | yes |
10:30:16 | _FireFly_ | then use qsort with you compare-fn with my suggested modifications and then your array represents the sorted order of the strings |
10:31:00 | _FireFly_ | then you only read the string with the reordered seek-points in the array and write it to a new file |
10:31:14 | _FireFly_ | then the file has the sorted strings |
10:32:11 | XavierGr | yes, I will think more of it, it will be difficult to make it be fast. Thing is that I want both jpeg viewer while playing and no limitation on number of files in folder. (except if it runs out of memory which it will stop) |
10:32:56 | _FireFly_ | how does the file-tree sort the files as given in the sort-settings ?? |
10:33:23 | XavierGr | with a qsort algorithm |
10:33:42 | _FireFly_ | and all in memory ?? |
10:33:50 | XavierGr | the compare function is more advance because it uses various sorting methods. Like sensitive case and the like |
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10:34:11 | XavierGr | _FireFly_:Yes |
10:34:16 | XavierGr | all in memory |
10:37:11 | XavierGr | f*ck sometimes something is wrong with the pointers. The plugin exits with an error and then I can't start any plugin or playback a file. |
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10:38:13 | XavierGr | it the exits any time I start a plugin with can't start "rock file" or when I try to play a music file says: Error accessing playlist file. Why is that I wonder. |
10:39:03 | _FireFly_ | you have maybe overwritten something which breaks all |
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10:39:09 | _FireFly_ | with the pointer |
10:39:54 | XavierGr | yeah maybe. now I must find ways to protect it from such situations. |
10:40:42 | _FireFly_ | XavierGr: how to you get the list of the files in the dir ?? |
10:41:50 | XavierGr | with a loop and some some directory functions. |
10:42:38 | XavierGr | the loop scans every item in the folder and if it encounters a jpg file it will add it to the file (and write the seek position to the pointer array) |
10:43:27 | XavierGr | it would be much easier to use data from the cache but that is impossible without adding functions to the plugin api. |
10:44:03 | _FireFly_ | true |
10:45:45 | XavierGr | I think I found a possible cause of the error. I continually open a file for reading and never close it!!!!! |
10:45:53 | _FireFly_ | ouch |
10:46:03 | XavierGr | indeed. |
10:46:31 | _FireFly_ | then you should go with an temp-file which have the unsorted file-strings and sort the seek-pointer array with qsort and your compare fn |
10:46:59 | XavierGr | well it was a left over now I removed this open function. |
10:47:14 | XavierGr | (it was there when I was debugging it) |
10:47:24 | _FireFly_ | after the sorting write the sorted strings to the file which should hold all found jpegs |
10:47:26 | XavierGr | _FireFly_: Yes that's what I am trying to do. |
10:48:00 | _FireFly_ | have you tried my suggestions in your compare fn ?? |
10:48:39 | _FireFly_ | and have you checked if the seek-point-array represents the sorted order of the strings after using qsort ?? |
10:48:48 | XavierGr | what was again your suggestion? (I think that I do what you said, just don't remember it clearly). |
10:51:41 | XavierGr | ha fortunately it was this left over that caused that big bug :) |
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11:02:59 | _FireFly_ | XavierGr: have got my pm ?? |
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11:39:26 | XavierGr | Hi |
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12:43:00 | ep0ch| | lostlogic: you here? I've tried compiling with your tremor opts, patch seems to apply, but wont build. |
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12:47:13 | Jungti1234 | lalala |
12:47:27 | markun | Jungti1234: I can take a look at hangul input |
12:47:43 | Jungti1234 | really? hehehe |
12:48:02 | Jungti1234 | ah markun |
12:48:19 | markun | But I need to find a table that tells me how to combine the combine hangul |
12:48:25 | Jungti1234 | I updated a little Korean translation. |
12:48:37 | Jungti1234 | ok wait |
12:48:45 | Jungti1234 | I will find. |
12:48:46 | markun | Just send me a new translation every 2 weeks :) |
12:49:22 | Jungti1234 | ojk |
12:49:24 | Jungti1234 | ok |
12:49:49 | Jungti1234 | By the way, don't I explain Hangul input to you? |
12:52:14 | Jungti1234 | markun |
12:52:40 | markun | I understand hangul input |
12:52:49 | markun | And you also send me some pictures, remember? |
12:52:51 | Jungti1234 | http://blogfiles15.naver.net/data11/2005/10/14/254/psphan-ssb0729.jpg : This is PSP's Hangul input. |
12:52:54 | Jungti1234 | yes |
12:54:01 | markun | Jungti1234: Maybe you can ask the korean programmer who is working on the viewer to come here. He might also like to work on a hangul input method. |
12:54:04 | Jungti1234 | You find 'Hangul' in wikipedia. |
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12:54:15 | Jungti1234 | He gave up it. |
12:54:32 | Jungti1234 | He is waiting that you do. |
12:54:58 | Jungti1234 | Don't you remember? |
12:55:16 | Jungti1234 | You spoke that someone is doing the work already. |
12:55:24 | markun | No, I don't remember. |
12:55:30 | markun | Does he speak English? |
12:55:45 | Jungti1234 | And 2 people did that don't want that do the work. |
12:55:50 | Jungti1234 | I don't know. |
12:56:10 | Jungti1234 | I can't see often him. |
12:56:48 | markun | It would be nice if a korean made the hangul input, because I will not know for sure it the way I implement it is the right way. |
12:57:22 | Jungti1234 | no |
12:57:52 | Jungti1234 | The South Korea doesn't have programmer who have H300. |
12:58:08 | Jungti1234 | Or they are beginner. |
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13:00:20 | markun | I can't believe that. You told me there are thousands of H300 users. |
13:01:25 | Jungti1234 | More than ten thousand people |
13:02:07 | Jungti1234 | Can't you make it? |
13:02:35 | markun | I can, but it will take time. |
13:03:00 | Jungti1234 | Do you understand Hangul? |
13:03:07 | Jungti1234 | hangle input? |
13:03:09 | Jungti1234 | gul |
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13:03:13 | markun | I understand it enough I think. |
13:03:27 | Jungti1234 | Explain to me. |
13:03:54 | Jungti1234 | I test you. |
13:04:11 | markun | Every syllable is made up of 3 (or 2 or 1) letters. The input method combines the typed letters into syllables. |
13:04:36 | Jungti1234 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hangeul.png |
13:04:53 | Jungti1234 | -> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Hangeul.png |
13:05:00 | markun | yes, just like that. |
13:05:18 | Jungti1234 | hehe.. |
13:05:36 | Jungti1234 | Does Hangul look in your computer? |
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13:07:22 | linuxstb | Is it just me, or are www.misticriver.net and forums.rockbox.org unavailable? |
13:07:58 | ep0ch| | rockbox one was down when i tried 5 mins ago |
13:07:59 | _FireFly_ | no i can't also access the forum |
13:08:16 | XavierGr | rockbox forums are hosted from misticriver. |
13:08:34 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Yep - must be a problem with their ISP |
13:09:23 | XavierGr | I changed the size of plugin buffer for some debugging. |
13:12:23 | XavierGr | ok question about opening files |
13:12:47 | saa[b_r]ider | linuxstb: I've been having the same problem |
13:12:59 | XavierGr | lets say I open a file, but then an error appears and my plugin exits without first closing the file. WIll this cause problems? |
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13:13:14 | Lear | Yes. |
13:13:44 | XavierGr | but what can I do if it shuts unexpectidly from the error? |
13:14:30 | Lear | Well, it should be possible to exit the plugin without your program knowing about it... |
13:14:36 | Lear | shouldn't |
13:15:02 | ep0ch| | linuxstb: what was the url to your custom menu shortcuts patch? |
13:17:07 | markun | saa[b_r]ider: me too, I wanted to take a look at the forum post you sent me |
13:18:18 | ep0ch| | linuxstb: no worries i found it |
13:21:11 | saa[b_r]ider | makun: this is the second time this happened to me today, they're probably having server problems |
13:27:45 | XavierGr | well plugin developers must be very carefull when opening a file. If their plugin crashes witout closing the file it can cause major problems if that is repeated. |
13:28:26 | XavierGr | In my situation, it needs more than 6 failed results to make rockbox nonresponsive. |
13:28:44 | XavierGr | If that appears rockbox will refuse to open any file or playback |
13:28:58 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Plugins should never crash. |
13:29:13 | XavierGr | so this is not easy to spot as it needs more than once to make this bug happen. |
13:29:23 | Lear | xaviergr: #define MAX_OPEN_FILES 8 |
13:29:33 | XavierGr | linuxstb: Look at the jpeg viewer. |
13:29:53 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Why? What's wrong with the jpeg viewer? |
13:29:54 | XavierGr | it has a gray buf error that will cause the plugin to exit but will not close the file. |
13:30:16 | linuxstb | What will cause that error? |
13:30:57 | XavierGr | I changed plugin buffer from 768 kb to 100 and forced the jpeg viewer to open a jpeg using plugin buffer. |
13:31:14 | Lear | well, that's a bug in the viewer. an error check a little further down closes the file properly. |
13:31:23 | XavierGr | yes |
13:31:46 | XavierGr | the same problem appeared to me when I forgot to close files. |
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13:32:55 | linuxstb | Shall I fix it? |
13:33:39 | XavierGr | well I fixed it on my build which I added many more things. |
13:33:41 | XavierGr | but yeah |
13:33:54 | linuxstb | There seem to be lots of places where unexpected errors happen, but fd isn't closed. |
13:33:56 | XavierGr | fix it becuase I need to compelte the sorting procedure. |
13:34:31 | XavierGr | yeah now that you mention it. |
13:34:40 | XavierGr | it will happen on low memory too. |
13:35:31 | XavierGr | very evil bug. I couldn't tell what caused this. |
13:36:13 | linuxstb | It's actually only in one place - fd already closed before the other plugin errors can happen. |
13:37:24 | XavierGr | ah yes I had changed the out of memory code |
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13:37:35 | XavierGr | it only appears on the gray buf error |
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13:38:44 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Fixed in CVS. |
13:39:29 | XavierGr | okay, I will bother you once more if I finish this and it's usable and better. |
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13:50:14 | linuxstb | preglow: Are you around? |
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14:05:02 | tucoz | I've added the two first parts of the 2.4 manual to the LaTeX proposal. I have only copied and pasted for now, and cleaned up some stuff so that it compiles cleanly. http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox.pdf |
14:05:32 | tucoz | The tables looks like shite, but that is probably easy to fix |
14:06:31 | tucoz | As they seem to be somewhat hard-coded in the writer2latex version. I think it is easy to let LaTeX do the formatting of them instead of hard coding values like it is now. |
14:06:46 | tucoz | ...but that I haven't done yet. |
14:07:33 | linuxstb | It's looking good. Have you explored methods for producing different manuals for different targets? |
14:08:00 | tucoz | linuxstb, no, not yet |
14:08:13 | tucoz | linuxstb, do you know how to use the sty files? |
14:08:20 | tucoz | is that a package? |
14:08:49 | Jungti1234 | Why does Rockbox need 'Does the Rockbox bootloader work with 1.28J (Japanese version) ?' in FAQ? |
14:10:06 | tucoz | I am looking at the optional stuff now. |
14:10:24 | linuxstb | tucoz: It's been many years since I used LaTeX, but yes, I think the .sty files are simply packages of macros - the optional.sty package I mentioned seems to be part of the standard LaTeX distribution (at least I have a copy on Debian) |
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14:10:43 | preglow | linuxstb: lucky you, i am now |
14:10:52 | tucoz | Oh, ok. I am looking at the file now. |
14:11:06 | San | is misticriver working for any of you guys? |
14:11:49 | linuxstb | preglow: I'm having problems with my iPod (rockbox.ipod seems to be freezing very early - before it update the LCD) - does the latest CVS work for you? |
14:12:00 | preglow | linuxstb: i'll be checking it afterwards |
14:12:03 | preglow | i just need some food first |
14:13:00 | Amar | san: i con't get on at the moment |
14:13:09 | San | me neither :\ |
14:13:10 | preglow | perhaps i broke something when i commited threads.c? |
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14:13:53 | g33 | i miss being able to que a file with just one click in the original firmware... wouldnt it be possible to put files on que with just a single click when browsing files? |
14:14:20 | linuxstb | preglow: No, I don't think it's that. I expect it's my i2c code, but that has been working perfectly for the last week or two. It just suddenly stopped working after I committed it... |
14:14:23 | preglow | possible yes, will we do it, no |
14:14:35 | preglow | linuxstb: wonderful! |
14:15:03 | tucoz | The different files for the LaTeX-manual is to be found here -> http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/ . manual.zip contains the build-system, rockbox-manual-2.4.zip the w2l generated docs. |
14:15:28 | tucoz | I think we can just trust that optional works |
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14:18:54 | San | what does "parse error before '->' token" meen? |
14:20:00 | preglow | what it says |
14:20:06 | San | lol |
14:20:15 | preglow | there's something it doesn't understand before the -> |
14:21:16 | San | rb->lcd_clear_display() |
14:21:21 | San | whats wrong with that? |
14:22:31 | linuxstb | There is no semi-colon at the end? |
14:22:36 | San | there is |
14:22:56 | linuxstb | I assume that's in a plugin? |
14:22:56 | San | pl |
14:22:59 | San | yes |
14:23:13 | San | #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR |
14:23:14 | San | rb->lcd_clear_display(); |
14:23:14 | San | rb->lcd_set_foreground(COLOR_WHITE); |
14:23:14 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK San |
14:23:14 | San | rb->lcd_set_background(COLOR_BLUE); |
14:23:14 | San | #endi |
14:23:19 | San | thats the section its in |
14:23:37 | San | enddif |
14:23:39 | San | my bad |
14:23:57 | San | anything wrong with that? |
14:24:09 | linuxstb | Nothing obvious. |
14:24:30 | linuxstb | Does it compile if you remove that line? |
14:24:40 | San | yes |
14:24:51 | Lear | Maybe the line before is the faulty one? |
14:25:08 | San | #endif /* HAVE_LCD_BITMAP */ ? |
14:25:41 | linuxstb | San: Can you upload the entire .c file somewhere? |
14:25:51 | Lear | The line with real code... :) |
14:25:52 | San | ok, but 1 sec |
14:26:01 | San | i'm gona try compile again |
14:27:15 | Amar | mistic river is working again |
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14:29:17 | Lear | Is it? |
14:29:36 | _FireFly_ | misticriver it self yepp but not the rockbox-forum |
14:30:12 | XavierGr | yes rockbox forums are still down |
14:30:14 | tucoz | I'll just leave the doc files at the webserver, and if someone else finds it interesting, please work on it. I have to work on something else for a while now. |
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14:31:22 | linuxstb | San: Is it working now? |
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14:34:04 | San||Away | how come I see things in the IRC logs that I dont see here? |
14:34:17 | XavierGr | my god! Greyscale needs ~82kB of data to work on iriver. If that's the case for Archos targets too then archos users will have to say goodbye to simultaneous JPEG vieweing and playback. |
14:34:25 | _FireFly_ | what things San||Away |
14:34:34 | San||Away | like, messages |
14:34:42 | _FireFly_ | waht messages |
14:34:49 | San||Away | i see them in the logs, but when I look up, I dont see them |
14:34:58 | San||Away | <Amar> mistic river is working again |
14:35:05 | San||Away | i dont see that in my logs |
14:35:15 | linuxstb | San: You probably lost your IRC connection |
14:35:23 | San||Away | but, I replyed after it |
14:35:31 | San||Away | :\ |
14:35:40 | XavierGr | linuxstb: He says about those kick messages |
14:35:46 | _FireFly_ | is it your own log local one |
14:35:48 | XavierGr | or flood warnings |
14:35:54 | XavierGr | which the bot triggers |
14:35:59 | XavierGr | I don't see them too. |
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14:37:49 | San||Away | http://www.diabolikal.org/hosted/pong.c |
14:37:57 | San||Away | there is the source, if you didn't get it |
14:38:07 | saa[b_r]ider | she's alive! misticriver is back! |
14:38:13 | San||Away | yeah :D |
14:38:44 | XavierGr | I thought it was "the misticriver" "it" not "she" is mistic river female? :D |
14:38:50 | Lear | Code outside functions isn't likely to work... |
14:39:04 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
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14:39:20 | San||Away | where do I put it then? |
14:39:43 | Lear | Inside one, obviously. :) My guess is, it should be after the clear screen call. |
14:39:45 | linuxstb | Probably a few lines up - just before the while(game > 0) line |
14:40:08 | XavierGr | anyone with an archos unit here? |
14:40:12 | San||Away | kk |
14:40:14 | San||Away | compiling |
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14:45:37 | saa[b_r]ider | xavierGr: put that way, your right... I was thinking of "her" as a site, so that sounded right to me... |
14:46:04 | XavierGr | hehe |
14:46:18 | saa[b_r]ider | then again, english doesn't include gender to nouns like other languages, such as arabic. do you have gender for nouns in greek? |
14:46:31 | XavierGr | yes we have |
14:46:41 | XavierGr | and site in greek is also female |
14:46:43 | Moos | yeah arabic and french |
14:47:01 | Moos | male here in french |
14:47:02 | saa[b_r]ider | in arabic it's actually male :D |
14:47:11 | Moos | oh yeah |
14:47:13 | XavierGr | haha |
14:47:42 | XavierGr | well it's how you translate "site" |
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14:48:04 | saa[b_r]ider | moos your parents are from morocco right? |
14:48:10 | XavierGr | we use the word page for site, but if you translate the word as "place" then yes it is male in greek too. |
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14:48:53 | Moos | saab: yeah, how you know? I'm marocco born in france :) |
14:49:28 | saa[b_r]ider | the arabic translation for site is equal to site as in location |
14:49:34 | saa[b_r]ider | like construction site... |
14:49:39 | Moos | in french too |
14:49:48 | Moos | "un site" |
14:49:51 | saa[b_r]ider | Moos: Markun told me :) |
14:49:58 | Moos | haha ok |
14:50:20 | saa[b_r]ider | I always spell marocco wrong! |
14:50:29 | Moos | we are'nt lot of arabic Rockbox users :( |
14:50:40 | Moos | Morrocco in english I think |
14:50:52 | Moos | Maghreb in arabic sounds better ;) |
14:51:13 | saa[b_r]ider | yet we still get arabic support in RB! |
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14:51:56 | XavierGr | saa[b_r]ider: why the "b_r" are in brackets? |
14:52:11 | XavierGr | does saa ider means something? |
14:52:18 | Moos | me, I can't found out how to translate Rockbox strings in arabic, cause I don't use arabic computers vocabulary |
14:52:20 | XavierGr | or just an FX? |
14:52:55 | saa[b_r]ider | just FX, makes it look like a weird smiley :D |
14:53:17 | XavierGr | do you have a saab? |
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14:53:21 | preglow | linuxstb: testing now |
14:53:28 | San | w00t, color pong |
14:53:29 | San | :D |
14:53:32 | Moos | we using "saab" in Morocan language="like if..." |
14:53:35 | XavierGr | I mean do you drive one? |
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14:54:06 | saa[b_r]ider | Moos: yeah... I mean I can't imagine thinking of translations for treble, bass, crossfade etc it arabic! |
14:54:19 | saa[b_r]ider | yup, proud owner of a Saab 900 ;) |
14:54:22 | Moos | yes here too :( |
14:55:08 | saa[b_r]ider | actually, I always made fun of the translations they use in computers and mobile phones etc... |
14:55:15 | saa[b_r]ider | :) |
14:55:50 | Jungti1234 | good night |
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14:56:38 | Moos | what is your everydays language? |
14:56:45 | Moos | @saab |
14:57:43 | saa[b_r]ider | I have been raised and studied in school in arabic, but I've spoken english since forever |
14:57:44 | Moos | english, arabic? chinees? |
14:57:51 | Moos | ok |
14:57:55 | saa[b_r]ider | and yeah, I speak chinese as well :D |
14:58:04 | Moos | hehe :) |
14:58:10 | Moos | not a bit of french? |
14:58:32 | saa[b_r]ider | only "merci" :P |
14:58:42 | Moos | hehe :) |
14:59:14 | Moos | "chokran" sounds better :D |
14:59:17 | saa[b_r]ider | french isn't popular in gulf countries as in north west africa, and lebanon |
14:59:40 | Moos | french is spoken in Libanon |
14:59:50 | San | m4a is really buggy on the H300 |
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15:00:10 | Moos | in arabic gulf is the english? |
15:00:16 | Moos | oops @saab |
15:00:35 | Moos | San: m4a is still in devlopement |
15:00:38 | San | ok |
15:00:44 | preglow | okokokok |
15:00:46 | Moos | let's hope in linuxstb |
15:00:49 | preglow | this pc is so incredibly isb unfriendly |
15:00:53 | preglow | i can't unmount anything |
15:01:00 | saa[b_r]ider | Moss: well not everyone speaks english, but it's the most common second language, cause it's taught in school |
15:01:02 | preglow | and when i try after writing, the entire file system is corrupted |
15:01:12 | Moos | saab: ok |
15:01:17 | _FireFly_ | preglow: os ? |
15:01:18 | Moos | preglow :( |
15:01:23 | preglow | win2k |
15:01:39 | saa[b_r]ider | isb? |
15:01:45 | saa[b_r]ider | USB you mean? |
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15:01:56 | preglow | y |
15:02:09 | preglow | linuxstb: i get stkov panic |
15:02:20 | | Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
15:03:22 | San | color snake |
15:03:40 | saa[b_r]ider | preglow: in 2000 you need to close all windows and apps using the USB drive, then "safely remove" the drive from the system tray |
15:03:59 | preglow | saa[b_r]ider: well, yes, i'm used to xp, and you need to do that there as well |
15:04:04 | preglow | saa[b_r]ider: it never releases it here |
15:04:13 | preglow | it's probably the bloody anti virus shut |
15:04:15 | preglow | shit <- |
15:04:29 | saa[b_r]ider | gotta hate norton :) |
15:04:37 | preglow | f-secure |
15:04:38 | saa[b_r]ider | only love it when you need it :D |
15:04:41 | preglow | norton is even worse, though |
15:04:44 | preglow | i never need anti virus |
15:04:56 | preglow | i've never had a virus in my entire life, so i've got do be doing something right |
15:04:57 | Moos | here too, never antivirus |
15:05:02 | preglow | but this isn't my pc, so can't exactly remove it |
15:05:19 | saa[b_r]ider | very impressive you two! |
15:05:40 | Moos | if no needed, no needed ;) |
15:05:51 | Febs | Who is JoaquimDias? |
15:06:18 | saa[b_r]ider | san: as in Sanitarium? |
15:06:43 | Febs | He made changes to the ManualMainMenu that are iriver h100 specific, out of context and contain spelling and grammatical errors. |
15:07:06 | preglow | then revert it |
15:07:09 | preglow | or fix it |
15:07:20 | saa[b_r]ider | you can still go back to the older version... |
15:07:48 | Febs | I'm about to fix it. I don't know if I have the ability to revert it. |
15:08:14 | XavierGr | preglow: I know what you mean. I was told to use norton and since the day I used it (i removed it of course) I haven't use an antivirus program. |
15:09:04 | _FireFly_ | when i'm ander windows then i have free-av running |
15:09:14 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
15:09:37 | saa[b_r]ider | the problem is if other people use your machine.... |
15:09:40 | _FireFly_ | but most of the time under linux -> now antivirus is needed |
15:10:23 | saa[b_r]ider | some people click on every single pop-up window tricked by those clever windows look-alikes |
15:11:07 | Moos | with firefox not a lot of pop-up fortunatly |
15:12:07 | XavierGr | saa[b_r]ider: Say that again, I am lying to my brother that I don't have internet for that reason! |
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15:12:43 | San||Away | http://www.diabolikal.org/hosted/Color%20Snake.zip |
15:12:45 | San||Away | color snake if anyone wants it ^^ |
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15:12:58 | saa[b_r]ider | hehehehe :) well you can't blame them. not everyone spends as much time on computers as we do :) |
15:13:10 | Moos | :) |
15:13:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
15:13:29 | _FireFly_ | but a bit safty in mind should be possible |
15:13:29 | saa[b_r]ider | san||away: is this the same as the color snake posted at MR? |
15:13:47 | San||Away | the one I posted? |
15:13:48 | San||Away | yes |
15:14:02 | San||Away | I am sanitarium |
15:14:26 | saa[b_r]ider | cool... oh, too many san−− nicks :D |
15:14:33 | San||Away | lol |
15:14:47 | Membrillo | is it just me or are the RB forums down |
15:14:57 | saa[b_r]ider | yeah, they're not back yet |
15:14:59 | San||Away | yeah., they are down |
15:15:02 | | Nick San||Away is now known as Sanitarium (n=sanitari@213-202-162-137.bas503.dsl.esat.net) |
15:15:07 | Sanitarium | better? |
15:15:13 | saa[b_r]ider | merci :) |
15:15:15 | Membrillo | good good |
15:15:15 | Sanitarium | :P |
15:15:26 | Membrillo | now thats settled, im off to make a pot of tea |
15:15:47 | muesli_- | re |
15:15:57 | saa[b_r]ider | membrillo: good idea! |
15:16:02 | Moos | Hello muesli |
15:16:07 | XavierGr | Sanitarium: Give use a pic of it. |
15:16:13 | Sanitarium | ok |
15:16:15 | muesli_- | hi Moos |
15:16:24 | Sanitarium | it is just red on blue |
15:17:22 | Moos | muesli: did you see the World cup groupes? |
15:17:45 | muesli_- | yepp, i did...germany was in luck ;) |
15:18:03 | Moos | is France too :) |
15:19:16 | muesli_- | who is in their group? |
15:19:50 | Moos | Togo, Switzerland, South Korea |
15:20:12 | muesli_- | lol |
15:20:29 | Moos | like for Germany apear like one easy group |
15:20:59 | muesli_- | but south korea isnt meant to be underestimated |
15:21:13 | muesli_- | they are quit fast and dangerous |
15:21:25 | Moos | yes normally for all teams is the soccer rules |
15:21:46 | Moos | but the Worl Cup is the sumum of states wining |
15:22:00 | Moos | all teams wanted to make the best |
15:22:10 | Moos | but... :) |
15:22:22 | Sanitarium | http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5734/snakecolor7gn.png |
15:22:33 | Sanitarium | there XavierGr |
15:23:09 | XavierGr | ok thanks |
15:23:16 | Moos | time for me to back again in my brain medicin works, c you guys |
15:23:36 | XavierGr | anyone with an archos unit here? |
15:24:00 | muesli_- | cya Moos |
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15:24:06 | saa[b_r]ider | sanitarium: good job |
15:24:10 | Sanitarium | ty |
15:24:22 | Sanitarium | http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3263/pongcolor5gd.png |
15:24:24 | Sanitarium | PONG^^ |
15:24:34 | muesli_- | wohoo :D |
15:25:16 | Febs | preglow, the UDA1380 datasheet indicates that the edge frequency for treble boost can be either 1.5kHz or 3kHz. Do you happen to know which Rockbox uses? |
15:25:17 | muesli_- | its getting colorful :D |
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15:25:24 | Sanitarium | lol |
15:26:03 | saa[b_r]ider | btw, has any H300 user tried the Jpeg patch or plug-in? |
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15:28:13 | NightCat | Hello you lot! |
15:28:25 | saa[b_r]ider | hi NightCat |
15:28:49 | NightCat | Have somebody here the Windoz CygWin? |
15:29:07 | NightCat | Wich was built for this guide: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
15:30:02 | NightCat | I spent all day yesterday trying to do this compiler: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
15:30:11 | NightCat | And it doesn't work :) |
15:30:18 | Tomas_ | download the devkit... |
15:30:20 | NightCat | I need help... |
15:30:21 | | Nick Tomas_ is now known as t0mas (n=Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) |
15:30:59 | t0mas | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/Win32_DevKit/RockBox-DevKit_v314.exe |
15:31:05 | NightCat | I think devkit is not the right behavior for the developer... |
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15:31:07 | t0mas | that will install cygwin + all the tools you need |
15:31:26 | t0mas | no, it's not... but if you can't get it to work in an other way... |
15:31:51 | NightCat | Why? What about this way: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
15:32:05 | t0mas | I used that way... but in Linux |
15:32:18 | t0mas | and compiling gcc-m68k-elf in linux is easy... |
15:32:23 | XavierGr | t0mas do you have an archos? |
15:32:29 | t0mas | no |
15:32:30 | preglow | Febs: no idea |
15:32:41 | NightCat | I know... but I'm a windoz... |
15:32:42 | t0mas | XavierGr: only an Iriver H120 |
15:32:45 | Sanitarium | brb |
15:32:49 | Sanitarium | gotta restart |
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15:32:54 | t0mas | NightCat: then just use the devkit... |
15:32:55 | XavierGr | ok thanks anyway |
15:33:08 | t0mas | don't spend to much time compiling your compiler... |
15:33:08 | NightCat | I want it: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
15:33:18 | t0mas | goodluck then... |
15:33:34 | NightCat | And I'm looking for some help with this :) |
15:33:56 | NightCat | Or all windoz developers here use a devkit? |
15:34:22 | preglow | linuxstb: so, are we getting the same error? |
15:34:48 | NightCat | Who knows, what difference in devkit and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler? |
15:34:57 | t0mas | not much... |
15:35:03 | t0mas | devkit is just that + other tools |
15:35:32 | XavierGr | cygwin has many more tppls than devkit. |
15:35:53 | XavierGr | ^tools |
15:36:06 | NightCat | Hm... Ok I'll try the devkit one more time (I tried it already.) and then :) |
15:36:47 | NightCat | I somebody could and want to help my with windoz crosscompiler, please do it! :) |
15:37:04 | t0mas | warning... |
15:37:12 | t0mas | first remove cygwin etc. then install the devkit |
15:37:24 | t0mas | they sometimes bite eachother |
15:37:31 | NightCat | Yes I know, thx :) |
15:38:07 | NightCat | I already have approx. 100 mb of installation files on my PC trying to get it work :) |
15:38:19 | t0mas | :) |
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15:38:58 | NightCat | In what countries are you all live guys? |
15:39:03 | | Join San [0] (n=sanitari@213-202-162-137.bas503.dsl.esat.net) |
15:39:07 | San | back |
15:39:07 | NightCat | I mean I'm from Russia :) |
15:39:08 | t0mas | The Netherlands |
15:39:09 | San | :D |
15:39:17 | NightCat | San: HI |
15:39:38 | NightCat | (PS: It's just my interest :)) |
15:39:43 | San | hey |
15:40:11 | NightCat | San: I couldn't chage the colors yesterday :'( |
15:40:20 | San | in what? |
15:40:31 | NightCat | San: In LCD.h... |
15:40:50 | San | did you change the RGB values? |
15:40:51 | NightCat | Because of non working cygwin... |
15:40:56 | San | oh |
15:41:08 | saa[b_r]ider | Nightcat: live in china, from saudi arabia |
15:41:10 | NightCat | It works on sim but not on DAP |
15:42:15 | NightCat | I have an beauty black backgraund and blue text :) |
15:42:40 | San | nice |
15:42:57 | NightCat | San: Are you a Linux one? |
15:43:11 | San | somethimes |
15:43:14 | San | *times |
15:43:31 | NightCat | San: I mean what compiler are you use? |
15:43:52 | saa[b_r]ider | NightCat: can you post a capture from the simulator of your new colors? |
15:44:02 | San | linux when i'm on linux, and cygwin when i'm on windows |
15:44:31 | | Nick San is now known as Sanitarium (n=sanitari@213-202-162-137.bas503.dsl.esat.net) |
15:44:40 | NightCat | San: I want to install this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler on windoz but don't know how... |
15:46:11 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: wait a moment :) |
15:46:20 | saa[b_r]ider | thanks |
15:47:30 | linuxstb | preglow: No, I don't get stkov, the bootloader screen remains displayed, even though (I think) Rockbox has started. |
15:48:25 | linuxstb | But I've got to go now. bbl. |
15:52:28 | g33 | is there any good wlan musicplayer with optical output? |
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15:57:13 | Sanitarium | whats the resolution of the H100 screen> |
15:57:14 | Sanitarium | ? |
15:57:20 | t0mas | 160x128 |
15:57:26 | t0mas | iirc |
15:57:39 | Sanitarium | ty |
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15:58:25 | gursikh | hello |
15:58:52 | gursikh | Are we aware the forums are down? |
15:59:23 | | Part gursikh |
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16:00:05 | preglow | man, bejeweled is fun |
16:01:59 | muesli_- | it makes damn addicted ;) |
16:02:16 | saa[b_r]ider | and it's so cool in full color :) |
16:02:17 | muesli_- | i hate rotador for that ;) |
16:02:37 | muesli_- | saa[b_r]ider could oyu take a screenie? |
16:03:13 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: Where can I post my screen? |
16:03:44 | Sanitarium | anyone know why in rockbox the highest volume is 0 and the lowest is 100? |
16:03:44 | NightCat | Yes forums are dead... |
16:04:10 | muesli_- | NightCat try http://imageshack.us/ |
16:04:13 | NightCat | Sanitarium: Its in db "-100 db - 0 db" |
16:04:20 | Sanitarium | oooh, ok |
16:04:26 | Sanitarium | can I change that? |
16:04:27 | Philip___ | its now in decibels... iirc 0 being line volume.... |
16:04:29 | Philip___ | tooo |
16:04:31 | Philip___ | slow |
16:04:46 | Sanitarium | phillip, i made various plugins in color now |
16:04:46 | Sanitarium | :D |
16:04:59 | Philip___ | me/ must lern to type!! |
16:05:04 | Sanitarium | lol |
16:05:09 | saa[b_r]ider | muesli: sure, do you use an H100? |
16:05:10 | Philip___ | damn :( |
16:05:29 | muesli_- | saa[b_r]ider still yes..but i'll change to a h3xx soon |
16:06:00 | muesli_- | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5838980199&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT seems to me a great deal |
16:06:06 | Philip___ | San: what plugins have you made? |
16:06:12 | saa[b_r]ider | cool, let me grab a screen dump |
16:06:39 | NightCat | Ok Here it is: http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9162/lcd6vq.png |
16:07:22 | Sanitarium | philip, color snake and color pong |
16:07:49 | Philip___ | cool are they available to download?? |
16:07:56 | Sanitarium | yes |
16:07:56 | saa[b_r]ider | NightCat: WOW! |
16:08:20 | NightCat | Sanitarium snake or snake 2? |
16:08:43 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: Yes :) |
16:09:10 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: I had sn green version (now it's dead :) ) it was very nice too :) |
16:09:11 | saa[b_r]ider | nightcat: but still no luck getting it to work on your H300? |
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16:09:32 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: ;'( |
16:09:40 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: Yes... |
16:09:53 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: only booting and then going down... |
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16:10:29 | Febs | amiconn, are you around? |
16:11:32 | ^BeN^ | i nees some help i c |
16:11:37 | ^BeN^ | need |
16:11:41 | ^BeN^ | in |
16:11:42 | saa[b_r]ider | NightCat: looks like the Philips display, very nice! |
16:11:59 | saa[b_r]ider | wish you luck getting it to work |
16:12:10 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: and the booting screen: http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2024/lcd27fb.png |
16:12:38 | Philip___ | yes that does look very nice |
16:12:40 | saa[b_r]ider | muesli: is that H320 brand new, or used? |
16:13:20 | muesli_- | that one was new |
16:13:33 | NightCat | San: Where we can down your plugins? |
16:13:42 | San | in the thread on misticriver |
16:13:50 | NightCat | Ok |
16:14:08 | muesli_- | saa[b_r]ider but i dont know if its the crippled us version |
16:14:13 | San | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33248 |
16:14:16 | San | there ^^ |
16:14:33 | ^BeN^ | san can u help me for a miment? |
16:14:35 | ^BeN^ | moment |
16:15:46 | saa[b_r]ider | Bejeweled in full color http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bejeweled7oz.png |
16:16:20 | muesli_- | saa[b_r]ider sweet :D |
16:16:31 | muesli_- | especially that frog ;) |
16:16:39 | ^BeN^ | the Bejeweled is boring |
16:16:44 | ^BeN^ | =\ |
16:16:55 | NightCat | Wich GCC I have to down? |
16:17:00 | saa[b_r]ider | Ben: which game do you like? |
16:17:05 | NightCat | down mean download :) |
16:17:12 | ^BeN^ | solitare |
16:17:23 | NightCat | 4.0.x or 3.4.4? |
16:17:27 | ^BeN^ | but i want it larger than =\ |
16:17:44 | ^BeN^ | imean |
16:17:50 | ^BeN^ | larger than from now |
16:17:59 | saa[b_r]ider | Ben: if you're using an H300, there's a new plug-in with increased size |
16:18:08 | ^BeN^ | right |
16:18:21 | ^BeN^ | but the pictures on the cards |
16:18:25 | ^BeN^ | still small |
16:18:33 | saa[b_r]ider | oh, haven't tried it yet |
16:19:02 | saa[b_r]ider | did anyone use Rockboy? (not a question about speed!) |
16:19:11 | mirak | #define MYLCD(fn) rb->lcd_ ## fn what does it means exactly ? |
16:19:28 | mirak | it's functon that takes another function as argument ? |
16:19:40 | ^BeN^ | some help in c? =\ |
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16:20:38 | NightCat | saa[b_r]ider: I :) |
16:22:49 | saa[b_r]ider | Nightcat: is it already bundled with the current daily builds, or do I need to download the plug-in? |
16:23:21 | frederic_ | Hi, I added a hint to glob.exe and it's usage to the wiki GaplessHowTo page. Glob can automaticly send a number of files in the right order to lame for gapless encoding with −−nogap. Hope you are happy with the addition... |
16:24:32 | saa[b_r]ider | NightCat: oh, it's already there.... |
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16:34:31 | muesli_- | how often is rockbox.iriver modified? with every update? |
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16:35:04 | ^BeN^ | where is the |
16:35:06 | ^BeN^ | #define LCD_WIDTH |
16:35:07 | ^BeN^ | ? |
16:35:07 | ^BeN^ | =\ |
16:46:36 | Sanitarium | should be somewhere near the top |
16:47:09 | ^BeN^ | but where |
16:47:13 | ^BeN^ | idont find it |
16:48:20 | Sanitarium | ctrl+f |
16:49:36 | ^BeN^ | but in which file |
16:49:53 | Sanitarium | what are you looking for? |
16:50:26 | ^BeN^ | i want to know the size in pixels of the lcd |
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16:51:00 | Sanitarium | 220 x 176 |
16:51:26 | Hooligan | Well, what platform are you talking about? |
16:51:34 | ^BeN^ | h300 |
16:51:37 | ^BeN^ | he knows =] |
16:51:43 | Hooligan | Ah, then yeah :P |
16:51:52 | ^BeN^ | 10x u |
16:52:09 | ^BeN^ | i try to resize rockblox for all the screen |
16:52:22 | ^BeN^ | BRB |
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16:52:52 | dropandho | hey all...did anyone notice the forums seem to be down? |
16:52:56 | Hooligan | I've been trying to apply that vertical patch for Rockblox, but I always seem to get a compile error. Tell me if you get a working .rock :P |
16:53:21 | Mmmm | dropand hop: yep annoying eh? |
16:53:29 | dropandho | hehe- ill survive |
16:53:36 | Hooligan | To Misticriver! |
16:53:38 | dropandho | just wanted to report the problem |
16:54:40 | dropandho | the forums are backed up tho- right? |
16:54:44 | NightCat | dropandho: Yes... |
16:55:00 | dropandho | phew- i just didnt want another wiki incident |
16:55:03 | NightCat | dropandho: I mean about down... |
16:55:36 | NightCat | dropandho: Sorry but i don't know about bcking up... |
16:55:46 | dropandho | ok |
16:56:19 | NightCat | dropandho: But I think after that incident that was they have to backups it every day :) |
16:56:30 | dropandho | hehe- phew! |
16:56:46 | dropandho | ok- i need to run |
16:56:48 | dropandho | talk late |
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17:06:02 | linuxstb | preglow: (I'm back). When do you get your stkov - is it immediately when Rockbox starts? |
17:06:02 | NightCat | Who wants a patch that change LCD colors: background => black, black => blue, white => green :) |
17:06:59 | Hooligan | Say, that sounds like fun! |
17:07:11 | Hooligan | Or unreadable. I guess we'll see. |
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17:08:12 | NightCat | Where can i post my file? |
17:08:19 | NightCat | Not img... |
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17:13:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
17:13:17 | Hooligan | So, is there anything in the way of RB having customizable colors besides coding it? |
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17:13:34 | Sanitarium | i am working on a plugin for that |
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17:13:54 | NightCat | Sanitarium: You a very good guy :) |
17:14:05 | Sanitarium | ty :D |
17:14:06 | NightCat | Sanitarium: You do a lot of progress alone :) |
17:14:12 | NightCat | Sanitarium>: Thx! |
17:14:20 | Sanitarium | np |
17:14:27 | Hooligan | Sanitarium: Very nice. I suppose it never hurts to ask :P |
17:15:02 | Sanitarium | it seems very easy |
17:15:19 | Sanitarium | i can get it to change color, but not keep it |
17:15:27 | NightCat | Yes, Likedeveloping win32 applications on Linux machine :) |
17:15:48 | Hooligan | Haha. Now that's just painful. |
17:16:19 | Hooligan | And masochistic |
17:16:34 | NightCat | Sanitarium: Could you ask anybody, how to save this option? |
17:16:41 | Hooligan | That's what geeks do in prison on hacking charges. |
17:16:45 | preglow | linuxstb: immideately |
17:17:45 | linuxstb | Have you looked into it at all? |
17:17:50 | NightCat | The only thind that I hate a lot is that it all builds veeeery slowly... |
17:17:51 | preglow | no, but will soon |
17:17:54 | preglow | got some other coding going |
17:18:07 | linuxstb | np. I'm trying to fix it now. |
17:18:17 | t0mas | hm... |
17:18:34 | preglow | it's a bit strange that i get a stkov |
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17:18:44 | preglow | but i've also got a modified crt0.S that might be playing tricks |
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17:18:51 | t0mas | I have a struct... with an array with bools in it (like this: struct a { int x; bool y[10]; }; |
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17:18:59 | t0mas | but I can't set all values at once... |
17:19:01 | t0mas | like this: |
17:19:13 | t0mas | a.y = {true, true, true, false, ....}; |
17:19:29 | t0mas | is there a better way? |
17:19:34 | linuxstb | preglow: Maybe I'm getting a stkov as well, but I'm just not seeing it for some reason. |
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17:22:16 | Sanitarium | WHat should I call the Plugin? |
17:22:17 | tucoz | linuxstb, I found out how to use the optional package in LaTeX |
17:22:26 | preglow | tucoz: is it easy? |
17:22:35 | tucoz | preglow, yes |
17:22:41 | preglow | that is, is it better than using the c preprocessor? |
17:22:51 | tucoz | example |
17:22:56 | Hooligan | Sanitarium: Something simple, e.g. colorswitcher |
17:23:24 | Sanitarium | RockColor? |
17:23:27 | linuxstb | preglow: I wonder if this has something to do with a completely unrelated recent change. I still get the same crash even if I undefine CONFIG_RTC |
17:23:45 | tucoz | /usepackage{optional} in preamble.tex, in rockbox.tex: /opt{iriver}{/include{/rockbox_file.tex}} |
17:24:13 | preglow | ok, so we'll just end up with huge opt sections |
17:24:17 | Hooligan | RockColor sounds good. |
17:24:18 | tucoz | then during compile, you get to say iriver, and the rockbox_file.tex is included |
17:24:31 | tucoz | preglow, seems like it |
17:24:34 | preglow | yup, we'll probably put code in the opt as well |
17:24:39 | preglow | s/as well/instead/ |
17:24:40 | preglow | but ok |
17:24:41 | NightCat | And I run My Black and Blue RB now! |
17:24:51 | tucoz | preglow, or we could have target specific files |
17:24:59 | preglow | tucoz: too much will be shared |
17:25:05 | tucoz | true |
17:25:11 | preglow | tucoz: like just a few button names differing between targets |
17:25:13 | Sanitarium | what is the left button called in the source? |
17:25:19 | Sanitarium | BUTTON_LEFT ? |
17:25:24 | preglow | tucoz: but ok, what content do you have in the latex manual as of now? |
17:25:25 | NightCat | It looks awesome instead of white and black :) |
17:25:37 | tucoz | preglow, It is a real PITA to work with the writer2latex output |
17:25:55 | linuxstb | Sanitarium: Yes, but you shouldn't really use the BUTTON_??? defines directly. Which part of Rockbox are you working on? |
17:25:57 | Hooligan | NightCat: Share! You're keeping me in suspense. |
17:26:10 | tucoz | preglow, all the chapters up to, but not including plugins from the 2.4 manual |
17:26:12 | NightCat | Where can I put it? |
17:26:24 | preglow | tucoz: aah, so you're adapting the real manual, that's excellent |
17:26:33 | NightCat | And when it became not blinking pictures? |
17:26:43 | Sanitarium | plugins linuxstb |
17:26:51 | NightCat | The picts are not blinks at all on my WPS :) |
17:26:58 | tucoz | preglow, it doesn't look too good, but it's only in the transfer phase atm. |
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17:27:22 | preglow | tucoz: looks aren't important, as long as we get the content |
17:27:26 | preglow | the looks can always be fixed |
17:27:31 | tucoz | yes |
17:27:37 | tucoz | http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox.pdf |
17:27:44 | tucoz | You could always have a look there |
17:27:53 | tucoz | looks like crap though. |
17:28:27 | preglow | looks far better than i'd though |
17:28:29 | preglow | t |
17:28:33 | tucoz | All the stuff is included in http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip |
17:28:36 | preglow | what matters is that the code is logically structured |
17:28:44 | preglow | but excellent work |
17:28:59 | tucoz | preglow, yes, it is a nice build system. I included a README in the manual.zip |
17:29:39 | linuxstb | tucoz: Have you looked to see if there are other OO to LaTeX converters available? Maybe others will do a better job. |
17:30:13 | tucoz | linuxstb, no, I haven't. It almost feels like copy and paste from plain text works better. |
17:30:20 | preglow | table formatting is a bit weird |
17:30:22 | preglow | but we'll fix that |
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17:30:37 | tucoz | preglow, yes, writer2latex does some strange stuff |
17:30:59 | preglow | but like i said: the content and logical structure is what is most important, the rest we can fix later |
17:31:07 | tucoz | like include a \foreignlanguage{english}{:} if it finds a : |
17:31:16 | NightCat | Somebody, please say, where can I post my files in the internet? |
17:31:16 | preglow | hahaha |
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17:31:50 | Acksaw | Hey |
17:31:58 | linuxstb | NightCat: Why don't you start a forum thread at mistic river? |
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17:32:14 | Sanitarium | NightCat |
17:32:19 | Sanitarium | RapidShare.de |
17:32:24 | tucoz | anyway, I do not think I will have the time to work that much more on this atm. I just leave the files on the web-server, for somebody else to pick up. |
17:33:03 | NightCat | linuxstb: cause it's to erlier for me :) Sanitarium: Thx :) |
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17:33:11 | tucoz | preglow, regarding the tables, they are look very weird in the tex files as well :D |
17:33:49 | preglow | that's what i was referring to, heh |
17:34:20 | tucoz | also, I couldn't find out how to include png or jpg files to the document. the logo is a eps file. But it is doable (jpg and png) so, I guess I did something wrong |
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17:35:20 | Coldtoast | howdy |
17:35:33 | Hooligan | Howdy, Cowboy |
17:35:47 | Sanitarium | :P |
17:35:49 | Hooligan | Put up your boots and join us for a round of poker and whisky |
17:35:57 | Coldtoast | I use the text viewer a lot and it occurs to me that it'd be good if the remote still controlled music playback while viewing a text file |
17:36:27 | Coldtoast | to the player buttons control the text viewer and the remote controls music playback |
17:36:36 | Coldtoast | to the player=so the player |
17:37:47 | Sanitarium | for the H300 or H100? |
17:37:48 | NightCat | Hooligan: Take it: http://rapidshare.de/files/8989040/lcd.h.zip.html |
17:37:57 | Coldtoast | I have a h140 |
17:38:30 | Hooligan | NightCat: Much obliged :) |
17:39:36 | Coldtoast | it's a bit of a pain when using the text viewer if a track starts you don't like and you have to leave the text viewer to skip tracks. Even if you just wanted to adjust the vlolume, you have to leave the text viewer to do it |
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17:40:40 | tucoz | preglow, regarding the structuring. We could maybe keep the files (chapter-files) as is, and maybe extract the tables and target specific stuff to their own files. and do a opt on those. |
17:41:55 | preglow | tucoz: i think we should keep the structuring and files as is. as for opts, i think and hope we will get away with making macros in opt parts, then having general code outside that |
17:42:07 | tucoz | ok |
17:42:09 | preglow | like defining button name macros in an opt, and using it outside |
17:42:22 | preglow | more or less just like we do in the code, really |
17:42:36 | tucoz | I see, yes that would work. |
17:43:07 | preglow | i don't have any preferences but avoiding the duplication of text and tables |
17:43:42 | tucoz | As for the manual at the moment. I only wanted it to compile, therefore it might look a little ugly. hehe |
17:44:14 | preglow | sure, no worries |
17:44:18 | tucoz | No hacks to get it work though |
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17:44:44 | tucoz | ok, good. Got to go. See you. |
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17:46:10 | Acksaw | has anyoen changed there battery in there h300? |
17:46:15 | Acksaw | here that is |
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17:50:49 | NightCat | People! Who works on PREWENT CLIPPING? |
17:50:59 | preglow | NO ONE! |
17:51:12 | Hooligan | JESUS! |
17:51:18 | preglow | WHERE! |
17:51:25 | Hooligan | BEHIND YOU! |
17:51:29 | preglow | OMFG! |
17:51:29 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 9 hours and 9 minutes at the last flood |
17:51:29 | * | Hooligan runs |
17:51:47 | * | Cassandra puts here earplugs in. |
17:52:03 | linuxstb | preglow: I've just tested yesterday's CVS, and that crashes the same way. So I think it may be an unrelated change. |
17:52:15 | preglow | linuxstb: sure seems like it |
17:52:20 | * | preglow wants a debugger |
17:52:31 | * | Hooligan wants a pony |
17:52:42 | * | Cassandra hands preglow gdb. |
17:52:45 | NightCat | There was a Prewent Clipping option in the menu and now it's gone... :( |
17:52:50 | * | linuxstb wonders if he can download old daily builds for the ipod... |
17:52:54 | Cassandra | Well, you didn't specify that it had to be useful for you. |
17:53:26 | preglow | NightCat: been living under a rock, have you? |
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17:55:51 | NightCat | preglow: Not only... |
17:55:59 | preglow | it was removed quite some time ago |
17:56:02 | NightCat | preglow: This option is very good thing... I want it BACK!!! |
17:56:06 | preglow | people nearly spontaneously combusted |
17:56:22 | preglow | NightCat: how do you use it? |
17:56:27 | NightCat | Where can I change it to back? |
17:57:02 | NightCat | preglow: I set it to Off sometimes and I have a good earphones that doesn't clipping at all... |
17:57:12 | preglow | NightCat: off is now default |
17:57:33 | preglow | NightCat: not only default, but the only option |
17:57:43 | NightCat | preglow: Really? When I listen it now it's a different... |
17:57:51 | preglow | NightCat: this kind of clipping doesn't depend on your earphones |
17:57:59 | preglow | NightCat: well, then you weren't using 'off' |
17:58:26 | NightCat | Second |
17:59:06 | San | woah, thats a big error I got |
17:59:07 | San | :\ |
17:59:11 | San | anyway, GTG |
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17:59:40 | NightCat | preglow: Hm... It seem you'r right :) |
18:00 |
18:00:09 | NightCat | preglow: Loud music came back :) |
18:01:51 | NightCat | How to use this "* linuxstb wonders if he can download old daily builds for the ipod..." things on IRC? (I mean different color text) |
18:02:07 | preglow | /me |
18:02:15 | linuxstb | NightCat: I typed "/me wonders if he...." |
18:02:28 | NightCat | Thanks! |
18:03:05 | * | NightCat plugs the earphones and flys away... |
18:03:34 | Coldtoast | you can do the same thign with "/action wonders if..." |
18:03:43 | NightCat | What is Crossfeed (not crossfade)? What does it do? |
18:03:44 | Acksaw | can anyone tell me if this will work in my h320? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-Capacity-2200mAh-Battery-iPod-1st-Generation-1G_W0QQitemZ5837508918QQcategoryZ48680QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
18:04:11 | Coldtoast | I know that'll work in a h140 :) |
18:04:15 | preglow | NightCat: crossfeed mixes a bit of left into right, and right into left |
18:04:20 | preglow | NightCat: to simulate listening over speaker |
18:04:21 | preglow | s |
18:04:45 | NightCat | Thx :) |
18:05:46 | NightCat | Acksaw: There was a guy on our forum who change his accum to 2200 and HDD to 60 gig :) |
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18:07:00 | Acksaw | i need know if it works |
18:07:10 | Em | is this the firmware project ? and is there a problem with the site, or is that on my end ? |
18:07:22 | Coldtoast | wanna see something TOTALLY insane? |
18:07:30 | Coldtoast | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TOSHIBA-MK4004GAH-40GB-1-8_W0QQitemZ8712100364QQcategoryZ162QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
18:07:34 | NightCat | Acksaw: Wait some time whily forum became working :) |
18:07:43 | Coldtoast | they want $320 for a fricken 40GB drive |
18:08:16 | petur | buy a 60GB and sell your 40GB |
18:08:18 | Coldtoast | HAH! and another $90US to ship to my country |
18:08:22 | Coldtoast | what a moron |
18:09:46 | NightCat | Maybe this helps: http://search.ebay.com.au/60GB-1-8_W0QQfromZR40QQsatitleZ60GBQ201Q2e8 |
18:10:00 | Acksaw | you can put a 40gb dual platter in a h320 |
18:10:05 | Coldtoast | I'm goign to send this guy a message |
18:10:24 | NightCat | Acksaw: You can put a 60 gig too :) |
18:10:26 | Coldtoast | ask him why he's charging $70 more than what the drives retail for |
18:10:44 | NightCat | Coldtoast: Just forget it :) |
18:10:49 | Coldtoast | nah |
18:11:08 | Acksaw | nightcat |
18:11:10 | Acksaw | you found it? |
18:11:42 | NightCat | Yes :) |
18:11:56 | NightCat | http://search.ebay.com.au/60GB-1-8_W0QQfromZR40QQsatitleZ60GBQ201Q2e8 |
18:12:36 | petur | does anybody know if there is some code/plugin available to test LCD performance (fps)? |
18:12:37 | Acksaw | link? |
18:13:02 | NightCat | Yes |
18:13:15 | NightCat | It's EBay search result :) |
18:13:23 | Em | all right. this isn't ported to my player anyways. thanks. |
18:13:25 | | Part Em ("right then.") |
18:13:59 | NightCat | petur: for what? |
18:14:15 | Acksaw | i was on about the h320 battery walkthrough |
18:14:27 | petur | more LCD driver study. I'm trying to get the speed up a bit... |
18:14:52 | NightCat | petur: there is now blinking anymore :) |
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18:15:18 | NightCat | now=no :) |
18:15:24 | petur | main display? |
18:15:28 | petur | H3xx? |
18:15:33 | NightCat | Yes :) |
18:15:47 | petur | weird, I tried that patch yesterday and it didn't help |
18:16:00 | NightCat | 6 dynamic pictures and no blinking :) |
18:16:08 | Acksaw | nightcat have you found it? |
18:16:17 | NightCat | petur: I DON'T USE THE PETCH!!! |
18:16:27 | NightCat | *PATCH |
18:16:42 | petur | Already did a cvs update |
18:16:49 | _FireFly_ | petur: hmm maybe another patch which gots also commited solves the problem together with my patch |
18:17:13 | petur | you mean the lcd update rect? |
18:17:23 | NightCat | I just done a cvs update (no changes) and make a buil :) |
18:17:46 | _FireFly_ | petur: could be |
18:17:52 | NightCat | It was done about 1 hour ago. |
18:18:20 | NightCat | And it was a clear source (without changes) |
18:18:28 | petur | would surprise me, even though it wasn't my code, I tested it yesterday and created the patch. |
18:18:59 | * | petur must learn not to attach his H340 too fast, bootloader usb doen't work |
18:19:47 | NightCat | Acksaw: maybe this: http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=2200+mah |
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18:20:35 | saa[b_r]ider | btw, the 60 GB fits only in the H340... for the H320, it's possible to fit the double platter 40 GB |
18:20:37 | Acksaw | nightcat... |
18:20:46 | Acksaw | its the walkthrough i want.. |
18:20:52 | NightCat | Acksaw: no... You have to ask that guy in our forum... |
18:20:52 | Coldtoast | hey wow! I just discovered a new Windows keyboard shortcut; CTRL+ALT+NUMPAD . |
18:21:12 | NightCat | And what? |
18:21:13 | Coldtoast | opens the task manager |
18:21:14 | petur | 40 and 60 GB double platter drives are identical in size afaik |
18:21:16 | Acksaw | this is what you said [17:05] <NightCat> Acksaw: There was a guy on our forum who change his accum to 2200 and HDD to 60 gig :) |
18:21:30 | Coldtoast | same as ctrl+shift+escape |
18:21:34 | Coldtoast | anyway |
18:21:43 | NightCat | Acksaw: yes... |
18:22:20 | Weazel_ | is the forum down? |
18:22:25 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
18:22:26 | NightCat | Yes... |
18:22:28 | Weazel_ | ok |
18:23:01 | NightCat | Acksaw: This guy also was at misticriver forum :) |
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18:24:10 | muesli_- | re |
18:24:19 | petur | NightCat: what wps are you using (that doesn't blink)? |
18:24:32 | NightCat | My own :) |
18:24:46 | muesli_- | well..am i blinded? cant see that volume/bass adjustment thing under sound settings anymore. was is reverted? |
18:25:05 | muesli_- | it |
18:25:31 | NightCat | muesli: There is a bass option... |
18:25:39 | PaulJ | is the inverse lcd mode supposed to work on h320? |
18:25:48 | muesli_- | NightCat nah..not that one |
18:25:52 | petur | not implemented yet I think |
18:26:01 | muesli_- | prevent clipping was its name i guess |
18:26:06 | _FireFly_ | muesli_-: do you mean the prevent-clipping option ?? |
18:26:11 | muesli_- | yepp |
18:26:13 | _FireFly_ | that was reverted |
18:26:14 | PaulJ | muesli_-: this option is gone |
18:26:17 | linuxstb | preglow: Ignore what I said earlier, it seems to be my commit this morning that broke it. |
18:26:21 | Coldtoast | hey |
18:26:27 | muesli_- | hum??? |
18:26:29 | muesli_- | damn it |
18:26:35 | Coldtoast | with the prevent cliping option, at full voloume, will bass be flat? |
18:26:39 | _FireFly_ | now no clipping prevention is made |
18:26:41 | muesli_- | yepp |
18:26:53 | Coldtoast | i.e. if I put the volume at 0db, will adjusting bass have no effect? |
18:27:06 | _FireFly_ | Coldtoast: it will now |
18:27:18 | Coldtoast | it will now? as in it will now have no effect? |
18:27:25 | _FireFly_ | becuase no adjustmnet is done to prevent clipping |
18:27:27 | muesli_- | this is really annoying :( if you're going be train you need no bass |
18:27:30 | Coldtoast | oh |
18:27:39 | Coldtoast | so there's no clipping prevention any more at all? |
18:27:43 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
18:27:48 | Coldtoast | ok. thanks |
18:27:55 | muesli_- | suxx |
18:27:57 | muesli_- | :((((((( |
18:28:05 | Coldtoast | I thought you jsut changed it to be the same as the iriver fw |
18:28:12 | DrMoos | just the ReplayGain one, if Rg taged ;) |
18:28:33 | Coldtoast | oh, I'm fine with it as it is now |
18:28:46 | preglow | linuxstb: well, ok, that's kind of comforting, i guess ;) |
18:28:59 | PaulJ | i miss the prevent clipping option |
18:29:21 | muesli_- | 2nd this |
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18:30:33 | muesli_- | i mean there was no need to revert it |
18:30:39 | muesli_- | it worked perfect |
18:30:46 | muesli_- | and was usefull |
18:31:12 | PaulJ | muesli_-: read the dev-mailinglist from december |
18:31:54 | muesli_- | sorry, where do i get it? |
18:32:01 | _FireFly_ | mailing-list |
18:32:13 | _FireFly_ | link on rockbox.org then rockbox-dev ml |
18:32:23 | PaulJ | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2005-12/ |
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18:43:31 | NightCat | People, what about changing HOLD state? |
18:43:41 | preglow | eh? |
18:43:46 | NightCat | Hold works but don't display... |
18:44:13 | petur | still used to the iRiver FW? |
18:44:17 | NightCat | I use %mh in WPS... |
18:44:29 | petur | ah that.. |
18:44:47 | NightCat | Yeah that :) |
18:45:02 | NightCat | It not very beauty... |
18:45:18 | NightCat | It's a small bug could someone fix? |
18:45:55 | _FireFly_ | how do you use the %mh tag |
18:46:46 | NightCat | Second |
18:47:12 | NightCat | %?mh<%xds|%xdr> |
18:47:16 | NightCat | And |
18:47:17 | NightCat | %?mr<%xdu|%xdt> |
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18:48:51 | _FireFly_ | have you tried to display an text instead images ?? |
18:49:03 | _FireFly_ | maybe the images wasn't loaded correctly |
18:49:23 | NightCat | It's not an image bug it's an old hold bug... |
18:49:34 | _FireFly_ | please try it |
18:49:36 | NightCat | Just forget to implement it... in H300... |
18:49:42 | NightCat | second. |
18:50:35 | _FireFly_ | is the hold displayed in the statusbar ?? |
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18:51:02 | NightCat | Hm yes... |
18:51:09 | linuxstb | preglow: Can you try commenting out the yield() at line 53 of firmware/drivers/i2c-pp5020.c ? That seems to fix my problems, but I don't understand why. |
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18:51:54 | NightCat | NightCat: Works in status bar but not in WPS. |
18:52:05 | NightCat | _FireFly_: Works in status bar but not in WPS. |
18:52:34 | NightCat | _FireFly_: Even with text always shows one state... |
18:54:23 | NightCat | Ideas? |
18:54:41 | _FireFly_ | if the h300-sim runs under linux i will test it with my wps |
18:55:34 | _FireFly_ | hm wait how can i simulate the hold button under the sim |
18:55:39 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: The X11 sim doesn't have any colour, but the win32 sim works OK under Wine (apart from some keymapping problems) |
18:56:21 | NightCat | And what about this problem? In witch file this code exists? |
18:56:21 | _FireFly_ | i don't need color for this ;) |
18:56:30 | NightCat | I mean the WPS parsing... |
18:56:58 | _FireFly_ | i found it |
18:57:28 | _FireFly_ | it isn't activated for the h300 |
18:57:48 | NightCat | He-he :) |
18:57:55 | NightCat | Where is it? |
18:58:06 | NightCat | I can try it.... |
18:58:28 | preglow | linuxstb: okies |
18:58:56 | _FireFly_ | gwps-common.c:608 |
18:59:05 | _FireFly_ | change the ifdef to #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD || (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD) |
18:59:10 | _FireFly_ | from #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD |
18:59:51 | preglow | linuxstb: weird... |
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19:00:07 | linuxstb | Is it working now? |
19:00:10 | preglow | yes |
19:00:24 | preglow | that is, it crashes now |
19:00:27 | preglow | which it didn't before |
19:00:32 | preglow | but now i don't stkov anymore |
19:00:46 | linuxstb | When does it crash? |
19:01:00 | preglow | about a second or so in the file viewer |
19:01:10 | preglow | but that's probably my code |
19:01:18 | linuxstb | Does it display the clock in the corner? |
19:01:40 | NightCat | _FireFly_: ??? |
19:01:41 | preglow | which corner? |
19:01:52 | _FireFly_ | gwps-common.c line 608 |
19:02:02 | preglow | no, it doesn't |
19:02:04 | preglow | locks before that |
19:02:10 | preglow | does the rtc generate interrupts? |
19:02:14 | _FireFly_ | NightCat: the line looks liek this : #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD |
19:02:15 | NightCat | _FireFly_: I found it. |
19:02:19 | _FireFly_ | NightCat: change it to #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD || (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD) |
19:02:21 | linuxstb | preglow: Maybe... |
19:02:27 | NightCat | Line: #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD |
19:02:28 | preglow | oh well |
19:02:35 | preglow | but i need to go see if there's some food around here, i'm starving |
19:02:36 | preglow | brb |
19:02:42 | linuxstb | OK. |
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19:02:55 | NightCat | Trying. |
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19:06:10 | NightCat | _FireFly_: Ok, now it works :) Thx! |
19:06:25 | NightCat | It should be commited... I think... |
19:07:34 | NightCat | Is there some ability to know is the remote connected or not? |
19:07:50 | _FireFly_ | if you mean an wps-tag then no |
19:09:00 | NightCat | Now I mean the hardware ability at all. |
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19:09:20 | NightCat | Is RB knows the remote is connected to it? |
19:09:26 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
19:09:27 | Lear | I think the function is in button.c... |
19:09:57 | linuxstb | _FireFly_: Are you saying that line 608 of gui/gwps-common.c should have the IRIVER_H300_PAD added to the condition? |
19:10:13 | NightCat | linuxstb; Yes! |
19:10:22 | NightCat | linuxstb: And yes again :) |
19:10:25 | _FireFly_ | linuxstb: yepp |
19:10:59 | _FireFly_ | the used functions are already "activated" for the h300 only the tags wasn't |
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19:11:21 | linuxstb | OK, that seems uncontroversial :) I'll commit it now. |
19:11:25 | _FireFly_ | :) |
19:12:37 | linuxstb | Done. |
19:12:49 | NightCat | Good :) |
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19:13:38 | NightCat | _FireFly_: What about remote connecting? |
19:13:45 | _FireFly_ | ?? |
19:14:12 | NightCat | _FireFly_: I want to use it in WPS :) |
19:15:48 | _FireFly_ | currently no way |
19:16:12 | NightCat | Ok |
19:20:09 | muesli_- | _FireFly_ my i140 is now loud as hell and clipps as hell :-/ |
19:21:24 | _FireFly_ | muesli_-: then recduce the volume and/or the bass/treble |
19:21:39 | _FireFly_ | :) |
19:21:51 | muesli_- | sure..but the old prevent clipping version was working perfect |
19:21:53 | muesli_- | :-/ |
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19:25:02 | petur | hehe, getting 11.5 FPS, now I need to add the CPU freq to know what this means... |
19:25:38 | NightCat | petur: How did you get fps? |
19:25:53 | petur | wrote a little plugin to measure ;) |
19:26:19 | PaulJ | muesli_-: in order to prevent clipping you must now manually reduce bass/treble if bassboost+volume>=0 or trebleboost+volume>=0 |
19:26:21 | petur | just a 30 minute hack, needs to be refined... |
19:26:34 | NightCat | he-he |
19:26:49 | petur | but: my first plugin and it compiled and ran from the first try! |
19:27:26 | NightCat | Happy guy... |
19:27:37 | muesli_- | PaulJ thats the point..i have to do it manually..for every song, every album...imho these are more than 10steps back |
19:28:02 | PaulJ | muesli_-: i agree |
19:28:25 | petur | hmmm if I click the buttons a lot, my FPS counter goes up. Do they boost the cpu? |
19:29:15 | muesli_- | petur are you watching a movie on an iriver? |
19:29:37 | petur | no, testing how fast LCD updating works... |
19:29:39 | Acksaw | anyone here who knows alot of PC hardware? |
19:30:01 | muesli_- | Acksaw just gimma a try |
19:30:15 | Acksaw | well |
19:30:19 | Acksaw | i wanna build a system |
19:30:27 | Acksaw | for about £350 |
19:30:35 | Acksaw | but i have no idea what to get... |
19:30:50 | Acksaw | ive been looking into 3000 amd athlon but i dont know what to get after that :S |
19:31:02 | Acksaw | and the site im using to buy the parts is www.overclockers.co.uk |
19:31:05 | muesli_- | what do you need? everything? |
19:31:19 | Acksaw | well yes |
19:31:23 | Acksaw | just the pc though |
19:31:26 | Acksaw | i got the monitors etc |
19:31:51 | muesli_- | well..i get back l8ter...can talk again then... |
19:31:58 | Acksaw | im looking for like 3000 amd athlon 1gb ram 100gb hdd etc etc |
19:32:00 | Acksaw | ahh ok |
19:32:02 | Acksaw | what time approx? |
19:32:08 | muesli_- | 1h |
19:32:18 | muesli_- | mayb in 30mins |
19:32:21 | Acksaw | alrighty perfect |
19:32:34 | muesli_- | k ;) |
19:32:43 | preglow | pfew |
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19:32:53 | preglow | is bejeweled adapted to colour screens yet? |
19:33:07 | muesli_- | yepp |
19:33:21 | muesli_- | just seen a screendump today |
19:33:28 | muesli_- | in this channel |
19:33:34 | muesli_- | l8er.. |
19:34:45 | Acksaw | bye |
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19:35:28 | preglow | hohoh |
19:35:31 | preglow | excellent |
19:35:50 | saa[b_r]ider | preglow: http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bejeweled7oz.png |
19:35:56 | Acksaw | bejeweleed has been adapted for a week + |
19:37:32 | preglow | haha |
19:37:40 | preglow | get hold of some artist so we can have truly fancy bitmaps |
19:39:15 | RotAtoR | :( are you making fun of my bejeweled graphics, hehe ;) |
19:39:45 | preglow | of course not! |
19:39:51 | preglow | but they could be fancier |
19:39:53 | Cassandra | I think more than 2 colours'd help with that. |
19:40:00 | preglow | hmm |
19:40:06 | preglow | i played bejeweled under gnome |
19:40:14 | preglow | perhaps you can steal and rescale their bitmaps |
19:40:29 | Cassandra | Then we could probably nick their icons, since it's likely GPL. |
19:40:34 | RotAtoR | yes, they could, but we would need to be able to do transparent colors in full color bitmaps |
19:40:57 | preglow | is that a problem? |
19:40:59 | RotAtoR | otherwise it would look ugly when swapping jewels |
19:41:19 | RotAtoR | the white "background" would overlap the other jewel |
19:41:25 | Cassandra | I've suggested a possible way of implementing that in bitmaps to amiconn. |
19:41:30 | preglow | yes, sure, but again, it's not a problem |
19:41:33 | _FireFly_ | a simple solution would be to declare one color as "transparent" |
19:41:40 | preglow | one usually uses some absurd shade of pink to mean transparent |
19:41:50 | _FireFly_ | and this color wouldn*t be drawn to the framebuffer/lcd |
19:41:54 | petur | yep, typical soulution |
19:42:01 | petur | most use green or pink |
19:42:31 | RotAtoR | that would be nice for doing color bitmap work in genereal |
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19:43:25 | t0mas | damn... |
19:43:29 | t0mas | is there some new e-mail virus? |
19:43:36 | t0mas | exactly 41KB in size? |
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19:44:23 | * | t0mas received about 50 of them a few days ago... and set a procmail filter for that attachment size with suspectable names... |
19:44:36 | t0mas | now I can count > 500 of em in my virus box |
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19:54:08 | petur | I can do 40 LCD updates per second at 45MHz (H300), but my player crashes hard after 10 seconds :( |
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19:57:45 | preglow | oh? |
19:58:43 | * | petur adds paperclip to standard toolset |
19:59:35 | petur | is there doc about writing plugins (API,...)? |
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20:00:06 | preglow | read the hello world plugin |
20:00:08 | preglow | source |
20:00:12 | preglow | then just use plugin.h |
20:00:16 | preglow | the docs are a bit outdated |
20:00:22 | petur | know all that... |
20:00:30 | preglow | well, what more do you want? |
20:00:34 | preglow | that's all you need to know |
20:00:40 | lostlogic | yay hold switch |
20:00:48 | petur | what does rb->button_get_w_tmo() do? |
20:01:00 | preglow | get a button, but returns after a given timeout if it got no button |
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20:01:16 | preglow | so it doesn't block completely |
20:01:30 | petur | are button events queued? so I can just peek from time to time? |
20:01:35 | preglow | yes |
20:02:04 | petur | how often must I yield? |
20:02:50 | preglow | as often as makes sense |
20:02:58 | preglow | if there's a loop, once a loop iteration is fine |
20:03:07 | preglow | unless it's a loop with a lot in it, in which case you must do it more often |
20:03:17 | preglow | you'll notice if you don't yield often enougn, rockbox will become sluggish |
20:03:39 | preglow | amiconn: btw, mandelbrot will make playback choppy if used too intensively, so it probably needs some more yields |
20:03:41 | petur | Not ok to run for 2 seconds without doing any... but it shouldn't crash? |
20:03:51 | preglow | especially if you press select multiple times fast, it'll just block playback |
20:04:02 | preglow | petur: crash no, but wont work like it should |
20:04:11 | petur | why? |
20:04:18 | preglow | because the other threads wont run? |
20:04:29 | preglow | rockbox itself will just stand by while you're stealing all the cpu |
20:04:46 | petur | I just want to measure as exact as possible |
20:05:31 | petur | so I have a loop of 2 seconds that doesn't yield |
20:05:57 | petur | probably not very representative measurements anyway |
20:06:22 | petur | but I want to check if optimizations in the lcd area help anything |
20:09:49 | preglow | well, for tests, it doesn't matter |
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20:10:08 | NightCat | Hey~ |
20:10:08 | preglow | but for real life apps, you must never do it |
20:10:22 | petur | that I can understand ;) |
20:11:19 | NightCat | Just try 192 KHz 32 bit Wav on H320 and it works :) |
20:11:44 | NightCat | 30 sec file approx. 50 mb :) |
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20:16:53 | RotAtoR | haha, crazy |
20:16:54 | RotAtoR | i wonder if my 6ch, 96khz, 24bit wav files would play... ;) |
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20:17:56 | preglow | NightCat: it plays those files? |
20:18:12 | preglow | man, they're going to sound so extremely shite |
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20:18:38 | linuxstb | preglow: I didn't think the resampler could handle frequencies > 65535Hz ? |
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20:18:47 | preglow | linuxstb: it can since i implemented playback speed change |
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20:19:40 | _FireFly_ | wow now the user-list is a bit smaller :) |
20:19:40 | linuxstb | I'll test my 24-bit/96KHz FLAC file again then. |
20:20:00 | _FireFly_ | it looks like an net-split |
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20:20:48 | preglow | _FireFly_: nos hit |
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20:21:56 | RotAtoR | but with 6 channels? |
20:22:00 | _FireFly_ | preglow: nos ?? |
20:22:03 | NightCat | 6 channels what? AC3? |
20:22:07 | NightCat | Oh Wav... |
20:22:07 | RotAtoR | NightCat: yes, surround sound, from dvd-a |
20:22:08 | Acksaw | wtf just happened? |
20:22:08 | NightCat | And how it could be? |
20:22:08 | RotAtoR | ;) |
20:22:09 | RotAtoR | Acksaw: netsplit |
20:22:09 | Acksaw | ahh |
20:22:09 | Acksaw | wtf is that? |
20:22:09 | linuxstb | preglow: 100% boost with my 24-bit/96KHz FLAC file. |
20:22:21 | _FireFly_ | a connection between two freenode-irc servers got brocken |
20:22:24 | linuxstb | But it's working. |
20:22:28 | _FireFly_ | @acksaw |
20:22:35 | NicoFR | hi nightcat |
20:22:41 | RotAtoR | Acksaw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit |
20:22:42 | NightCat | RotAtoR: then just try it :) |
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20:23:32 | dropandho | so who helps to manage the forum? |
20:23:36 | preglow | arghh |
20:23:41 | dropandho | hehe |
20:23:49 | dropandho | u ok?! |
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20:23:58 | _FireFly_ | and again |
20:23:58 | NightCat | What is wuth IRC? |
20:23:58 | NightCat | Where are you all gone? |
20:24:10 | preglow | damn, freenode's a fun place to be today |
20:24:15 | preglow | linuxstb: no surprise |
20:24:24 | NightCat | NicoFR: I have black LCD with blue text on my DAP now :) |
20:24:37 | preglow | linuxstb: 32 bit lpc routines, double the decoding complexity, plus resampling on top of it |
20:24:37 | dropandho | darn irc! |
20:24:40 | NicoFR | that's cool |
20:24:52 | NicoFR | I read you had some problems building |
20:25:00 | NicoFR | with IllInstr errors |
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20:25:04 | NicoFR | I got the same |
20:25:07 | linuxstb | preglow: Yep. It's a 2.7Mbit/s FLAC file :) |
20:25:07 | dropandho | any1 here work on the forum at all? |
20:25:10 | NightCat | NicoFR: Now they gone! |
20:25:19 | NicoFR | you built the cross compiler ? |
20:25:31 | NightCat | Nop :) |
20:25:58 | NicoFR | I installed the devkit |
20:26:05 | NicoFR | works fine... both normal and sim |
20:26:10 | NightCat | NicoFR: Yes i'm too :) |
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20:26:37 | NightCat | NicoFR: I forget wich DAP you have? |
20:26:48 | NicoFR | h300 |
20:26:52 | mikearthur | anyone else finding pausing broken on the iRiver? |
20:26:55 | preglow | linuxstb: it might even run with 32 bit asm optimised lpc |
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20:27:04 | NicoFR | I think I'm going to give the custom colors a try |
20:27:19 | NightCat | What you mean? |
20:27:38 | NicoFR | change the foreground and background colors like you did |
20:27:44 | NightCat | Have a look? http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9162/lcd6vq.png |
20:28:02 | linuxstb | preglow: It's averaging about 92% boost, but it does skip briefly in a couple of places. So I'm sure it would be fine with an asm-optimised lpc. |
20:28:25 | NicoFR | nice |
20:28:55 | _FireFly_ | mikearthur: which file-format ?? |
20:28:59 | mikearthur | mp3 :o |
20:29:18 | mikearthur | I used friday's build, and just installed todays, no fix :( |
20:29:27 | mikearthur | although I see no bug has been files |
20:29:29 | mikearthur | although I see no bug has been filed |
20:29:38 | Acksaw | that rotator |
20:29:42 | Acksaw | thanks* |
20:29:49 | mikearthur | it pauses, then when I resume, it stutters like crazy |
20:30:26 | linuxstb | mikearthur: I'm playing (and pausing) an mp3 file now, and it's fine. |
20:30:32 | mikearthur | crazy |
20:30:38 | mikearthur | reckon nuke my settings? |
20:30:43 | Acksaw | any people good at PC hardware? |
20:31:02 | mikearthur | Acksaw: what respect? |
20:31:13 | Acksaw | well.. |
20:31:15 | Acksaw | no idea :S |
20:31:16 | linuxstb | mikearthur: Which options do you have enabled? You could try to disable things like crossfade to see if that isolates the bug. |
20:31:22 | Acksaw | ijust wanna build a new pc |
20:31:23 | linuxstb | I have nothing enabled. |
20:32:11 | NightCat | I must be off... bye-bye... |
20:32:26 | NicoFR | bye |
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20:33:27 | mikearthur | working now |
20:33:30 | dropandho | so there are no forum peeps here? |
20:33:30 | mikearthur | must have been a setting |
20:38:18 | Ctcp | Version from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect |
20:40:01 | preglow | linuxstb: but ok, back to ipod, why the hell should that yield have anything to do with a stkov? |
20:40:34 | XavierGr | It seems that rockbox forums are still down.... |
20:40:59 | dropandho | xavier- ya...i c that too |
20:41:03 | Acksaw | is there anyone here good at pc hardware? |
20:41:04 | dropandho | do oyu know who works on them? |
20:41:10 | mikearthur | Acksaw: yes |
20:41:45 | Acksaw | can you help me then? |
20:41:56 | Acksaw | to write a list of hardware for my new pc |
20:42:30 | mikearthur | yeh, pm |
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20:49:13 | tucoz | now the entire 2.4 manual is in LaTeX. Without images though. http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox.pdf |
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20:49:50 | tucoz | The appendix is also finished, but I didn't get it to compile. All the files are now updated here. http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip |
20:50:08 | tucoz | The images from the 2.4 manual is to be found here -> http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox-manual-2.4.zip |
20:50:20 | mikearthur | tucoz: nice job |
20:50:26 | tucoz | thanks |
20:50:41 | PaulJ | is here someone who has the album Hypnotize from System Of A Down? |
20:50:42 | mikearthur | aspect ratios are all screwed though |
20:51:02 | tucoz | mikearthur, yes, the tables need some work. But that should be quite easy |
20:51:17 | tucoz | Writer2Latex makes some weird stuff with tables. |
20:51:32 | tucoz | It is a pain to make the output from writer2latex compile |
20:52:18 | mikearthur | whats writer2latex? |
20:52:26 | mikearthur | why not just write it all in latex? |
20:52:43 | tucoz | mikearthur, the 2.4 manual was written in openoffice |
20:53:01 | paranoid_android | is it possible to asist the build -in mic in iriver h3xx and create a voice-to-text program that will be used as rockbox plug-in ,in theory |
20:53:26 | mikearthur | in theory yes |
20:53:29 | mikearthur | in practise unlikely |
20:53:41 | tucoz | mikearthur, this is just an attempt to transfer that to latex and to have something that is possible to work with collaboratively. |
20:53:44 | petur | cpu too slow I'm affraid |
20:53:53 | tucoz | that is, LaTeX is nice in that way |
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20:54:14 | dropandho | |
20:54:25 | dropandho | im sorry guys! |
20:54:44 | tucoz | It would take too much time to write it all over again. I think it is easier to just start with something that looks like crap and to tweak it here and there afterwards |
20:55:13 | tucoz | As LaTeX is able to do some pretty good formatting on it's own |
20:55:18 | Acksaw | mike |
20:55:22 | Acksaw | YGPM |
20:55:39 | tucoz | (the tables from writer2latex are very weird coded) |
20:56:25 | mikearthur | Acksaw: ? |
20:56:25 | mikearthur | I'll do the next manual in latex if you like |
20:56:34 | mikearthur | and, I didn't mean the tables were screwed, the whole thing seems skewed |
20:56:40 | saa[b_r]ider | anyone running a simulator with audio working? my H300 W32 sim crashes whenever I load an MP3 |
20:56:44 | tucoz | Anyway, a pretty nice build environment for the LaTeX-docs is to be find in http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip |
20:56:51 | tucoz | mikearthur, tell me about it |
20:57:21 | mikearthur | I'm confused, are you saying you agree, or you want me to explain the problem? |
20:57:34 | tucoz | mikearthur, I agree |
20:57:34 | dropandho | xavier - any forum word? |
20:57:41 | mikearthur | ok |
20:57:58 | mikearthur | tucoz: fire me the writer file, I'll do it nicely if you like :D |
20:58:09 | tucoz | mikearthur, the writer2latex? |
20:58:17 | mikearthur | the oo.org file |
20:58:22 | petur | hmmm... that optimization of lcd_update_rect() from Kaggen doesn't do that much FPS-wise :( |
20:58:27 | tucoz | mikearthur, oh, hold on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.zip |
20:58:29 | mikearthur | I do all my reports in latex |
20:58:56 | tucoz | mikearthur, cool. You could have a look at the build stuff in the link I posted up ^^ |
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21:01:06 | tucoz | mikearthur, Cassandra who wrote the 2.4 manual, thought that it would be a good starting point to have the 2.4 manual in latex |
21:01:17 | mikearthur | cool |
21:01:24 | mikearthur | well, I'm horrendously busy till friday |
21:01:29 | mikearthur | but I'll have a look after then |
21:01:36 | mikearthur | shouldn't take me more than a few hours to get it going nicely |
21:01:42 | tucoz | mikearthur, well, I am pretty much the same until the end of february. |
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21:02:04 | mikearthur | cool |
21:02:07 | tucoz | Ok, good. You have all the stuff you got in those two zips then. |
21:02:13 | tucoz | *need |
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21:02:45 | tucoz | mikearthur, the idea is to put this in cvs eventually. So that the documentation process won't be the hassle it is now. |
21:03:49 | tucoz | therefore we need a proper setup with chapter's separated as files, and also to be able to do some conditional docs. (iriver, archos etc). |
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21:04:12 | Acksaw | mike |
21:04:14 | mikearthur | hey, sorry, back |
21:04:16 | mikearthur | I'll be idling in here most days |
21:04:18 | Acksaw | i sent you a pm a while back |
21:04:18 | linuxstb | preglow: I've no idea why that yield causes problems. But I think the pcf50605 (where the RTC is located) is generating interrupts. |
21:04:19 | mikearthur | give me a PM some time, remind me next week if you like |
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21:04:32 | Acksaw | ah |
21:04:34 | Acksaw | :( |
21:04:45 | tucoz | sure, preglow and linuxstb are also interested in this stuff |
21:05:54 | tucoz | mikearthur, the idea is to put this in cvs eventually. So that the documentation process won't be the hassle it is now. |
21:05:59 | tucoz | therefore we need a proper setup with chapter's separated as files, and also to be able to do some conditional docs. (iriver, archos etc). |
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21:06:55 | mikearthur | ok, I'm not promising I can help with much of that |
21:07:03 | mikearthur | but I'll convert it all to 1 latex file for you |
21:07:27 | tucoz | mikearthur, no, but you can have a look at the stuff in this link for that: http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip |
21:07:31 | linuxstb | The text itself isn't that important - as tucoz says, the important thing is to set up the structure properly, in a way that can be used to produce different versions of the manuals for the different targets that Rockbox supports (Archos Player, Archos Recorder, Ondio, iriver, etc) |
21:08:03 | linuxstb | Once we're happy with the basic structure, we can put it in CVS and then many people can help with the actual content. |
21:08:54 | tucoz | the pdf I posted is just the 2.4 content compiling :). It looks like shit, but it serves good as a demo |
21:08:59 | mikearthur | ok cool |
21:09:08 | mikearthur | tucoz: whats in that 2nd link? |
21:09:20 | tucoz | the latex files, build scripts and so on |
21:09:29 | mikearthur | linuxstb: cool, I've been wanting to help with this project for a while |
21:09:35 | tucoz | and a README. |
21:09:43 | mikearthur | it has better gapless support than any mp3 player I've even used on my main machine |
21:10:05 | tucoz | mikearthur, if you make any progress, you could always post the results in the forums (general). |
21:10:11 | mikearthur | sure |
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21:10:26 | tucoz | I started a thread there on LaTeX documentation. |
21:10:51 | tucoz | hopefully, the forums will be back sometime :D |
21:11:16 | mikearthur | cool |
21:11:25 | mikearthur | yeh, latex is the way forward, for like, everything |
21:11:29 | mikearthur | write all my uni reports in it now |
21:12:17 | tucoz | mikearthur, it is good that you know your latex. Then we will also have not only the best fw, but the best docs as well |
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21:13:29 | mikearthur | hehe |
21:14:03 | tucoz | I got to leave, see you |
21:14:08 | mikearthur | cya |
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21:15:44 | linuxstb | preglow: The strange thing is that I can't find anything to do with pcf50605 interrupts in the IPL source - not even code that masks them. |
21:16:11 | preglow | then why do you think it's generating interrupts? |
21:16:20 | linuxstb | Because the datasheet says it does. |
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21:17:15 | preglow | ok |
21:17:22 | preglow | i'll try masking more interrupts and see |
21:18:24 | dropandho | so i remember who i was thinkin of- Juana Molina |
21:18:29 | dropandho | my bad with the description! |
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21:18:53 | linuxstb | I've just remembered that you've got a pcf50607 in your Nano, and I've got a pcf50605. The pcf50606 is in the h300, and that's the only datasheet I've found - it seems to match the IPL code for the pcf50605. |
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21:19:14 | dropandho | damn- wrong channel again- i suck! sorry once again guys |
21:19:16 | preglow | then perhaps it isn't so strange that nano hangs? :) |
21:19:37 | linuxstb | But IPL doesn't have any code specificially for the 50607 - I'm assuming that all three are basically the same. |
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21:20:10 | linuxstb | But of course, that may not be the case... |
21:22:25 | preglow | argh |
21:22:28 | preglow | what a mess my testing code is |
21:23:24 | XavierGr | what's the difference between pcm_playing() and mp3_playing()? |
21:23:38 | XavierGr | ^add _is_ to each fn |
21:24:55 | preglow | one is probably for archos |
21:26:36 | XavierGr | pcm is for iriver |
21:26:43 | XavierGr | now I got it. |
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21:29:09 | mikearthur | can the iRiver rockbox currently record to more formats than just wav? |
21:29:14 | _FireFly_ | no |
21:29:25 | mikearthur | is that a likely feature? just curious |
21:30:19 | Coldtoast | for me, wav is enough |
21:30:44 | mikearthur | yeh, its cool for me, I'm just curious |
21:30:54 | mikearthur | what was the size limit on the original firmware? |
21:31:09 | * | petur longs for wav recording on his H340 |
21:31:43 | mikearthur | also, does the splitting work yet? |
21:32:30 | XavierGr | mikearthur: yes |
21:32:52 | mikearthur | awesome |
21:32:58 | mikearthur | I was recording a gig on friday |
21:33:08 | mikearthur | MUCH nicer record support than stock firmware |
21:33:12 | mikearthur | good job lads |
21:37:24 | preglow | hmmm |
21:37:29 | preglow | something's wrong, that's for sure |
21:39:48 | preglow | now lookie there |
21:39:53 | preglow | it knows what time it is |
21:40:38 | preglow | but ok, conclusion: drawing to the screen for an isr = shady practice |
21:40:52 | preglow | s/for an/in an/ |
21:41:51 | petur | how frequent are the dev-mailing list archives updated? |
21:42:10 | petur | just wondering if my mails are getting through... |
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21:43:13 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, does backlight ever fade for you? |
21:43:20 | linuxstb | Nope. |
21:43:25 | linuxstb | Only on shutdown. |
21:43:33 | linuxstb | (i.e. after 10 minutes) |
21:43:41 | preglow | yeah, here as well |
21:43:44 | preglow | but ok |
21:43:46 | saa[b_r]ider | guys, which files have the setup for the rockbox-blue background, and black text? |
21:43:52 | preglow | think i'll try adding proper tick timer support |
21:44:14 | saa[b_r]ider | (for H300) |
21:44:17 | linuxstb | I'm just testing the keyboard driver in the new ipodlinux bootloader - it looks completely different to the old one. I hope it works. |
21:44:24 | preglow | but i wonder why that yield is screwing things up |
21:44:29 | preglow | linuxstb: that'd rock |
21:44:31 | linuxstb | http://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/tools/ipodloader2/keypad.c |
21:44:41 | linuxstb | Just compiling a test bootloader now. |
21:45:04 | preglow | cool, i'd like to hear what it's like |
21:45:40 | linuxstb | Ahhh, my battery is flat... |
21:45:59 | petur | what to do with plugins that are only usefull for devs? Like LCD speed measurement... |
21:46:14 | petur | no use to add them to user rocks... |
21:46:18 | preglow | keep them private, mostly |
21:46:48 | petur | ok |
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21:52:10 | linuxstb | My ipod's battery was so low, the RTC reset itself. |
21:52:16 | preglow | haha |
21:52:20 | linuxstb | I shouldn't leave it in Rockbox all day long. |
21:52:20 | preglow | i've never managed that |
21:52:36 | linuxstb | But it's happily charging now. |
21:53:57 | linuxstb | I'm going to leave it for 10 minutes, and then test that new button driver. |
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21:54:28 | preglow | i'm adding tick timer support now |
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21:59:20 | dropandho | so linus is the one who can sort out the forums? |
21:59:27 | preglow | what forums? |
21:59:34 | preglow | our forums are hosted at misticriver |
21:59:42 | dropandho | http://forums.rockbox.org/ seem to be down |
21:59:42 | preglow | so jeff's the man for that |
21:59:47 | dropandho | got it |
21:59:51 | dropandho | any1 hit him up yet? |
21:59:54 | preglow | no idea |
22:00 |
22:00:35 | dropandho | goin in! |
22:02:36 | dropandho | shot him an IM |
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22:02:50 | saa[b_r]ider | I hope you were kind :) |
22:02:57 | dropandho | of course! |
22:03:15 | dropandho | the nicest mean man...ever |
22:03:21 | preglow | hmm |
22:03:26 | preglow | how do i dummy read a volatile pointer? |
22:03:33 | preglow | MYFANCY_ADDRES; ? |
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22:05:27 | linuxstb | Yes, I think so. |
22:06:26 | preglow | so |
22:06:33 | preglow | i think the timing value is going to be off here |
22:06:37 | preglow | tick counter interval, etc |
22:06:47 | preglow | ipl sources say it's 100hz, but it doesn't look like it to me |
22:06:52 | preglow | rockbox tick counter is 100hz, yes? |
22:07:08 | linuxstb | Yes. |
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22:08:48 | saa[b_r]ider | is the background RGB value for the H300 set in lcd-h300.c? |
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22:09:32 | linuxstb | No, firmware/export/lcd.h - LCD_DEFAULT_BG |
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22:09:52 | saa[b_r]ider | thx linuxstb, I'll locck at it now |
22:10:46 | preglow | but then again, i was bloody updating the screen from the isr, something might have been quirky... |
22:10:57 | idanm | hello! |
22:11:38 | idanm | can someone help me fix the h300 remote patch so it will save/load the remote type on startup? |
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22:16:49 | saa[b_r]ider | linuxstb: and LCD_DEFAULT_FG is for text? |
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22:19:10 | San | is there a plugin that logs the files you play on the H300 or is there one being made? |
22:19:26 | idanm | anybody here? |
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22:20:47 | saa[b_r]ider | idanm: I just applied the H300 remote patch, but still didn't put on my player |
22:21:04 | saa[b_r]ider | are you having problems with it? |
22:21:21 | idanm | yea |
22:21:29 | saa[b_r]ider | what happens? |
22:21:42 | idanm | when i reboot, it goes back to the default remote |
22:21:50 | idanm | so I need to change it back in the menu |
22:22:21 | idanm | stangely, when I go to the menu, it's already on the h300 lcd remote, so I just need to re-choose it |
22:22:43 | saa[b_r]ider | gonna try it out now |
22:22:46 | idanm | I guess it saves the remote type, but doesn't load it on boot |
22:22:53 | idanm | tell me.. |
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22:27:50 | saa[b_r]ider | where in the menu do you choose the remote from? |
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22:30:15 | Sanitarium | is there a plugin that logs the files you play on the H300 or is there one being made? |
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22:37:56 | preglow | hrmphle |
22:38:23 | preglow | anyone, what should i call 0x60004024 ? :> |
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22:47:26 | preglow | linuxstb: how will rockbox behave without a timer tick? |
22:48:11 | idanm | where is the rockbox config is saved ? |
22:48:39 | preglow | idanm: special sector on the hd |
22:48:54 | preglow | hahahha |
22:49:02 | preglow | wanna now what my backlight just did? |
22:49:05 | preglow | know, even |
22:49:13 | preglow | it turned off after a couple of seconds |
22:49:28 | linuxstb | Now there's progress :) |
22:49:36 | preglow | at the first bloody attempt |
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22:49:47 | linuxstb | Does that mean you have a timer tick? |
22:49:47 | preglow | nothing short of bloody remarkable |
22:49:51 | preglow | yes, it does |
22:49:56 | linuxstb | Congrats. |
22:49:57 | preglow | unless i'm a bigger fool than i'd think |
22:50:28 | preglow | ok, i should start thinking about some commiting here |
22:51:23 | idanm | saa: general settings > display > lcd settings or something like that... |
22:51:42 | idanm | preglow: is the config editable ? |
22:51:54 | preglow | idanm: if you want editable configs, you should use config files |
22:52:03 | preglow | idanm: why? |
22:52:16 | idanm | interest |
22:52:29 | preglow | by default, rockbox uses a binary sector on the disk for configs |
22:52:33 | preglow | which isn't very easy to edit |
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22:52:44 | preglow | but you can yourself manually use text based config files |
22:52:52 | preglow | there has also been some talk of making these types of files the default |
22:56:51 | idanm | thanks |
22:57:05 | preglow | linuxstb: you think there's any point of me using an interrupt vector array, or should i just hard code the handlers? |
22:57:10 | preglow | s/of/in/ |
22:57:12 | preglow | beh |
22:57:22 | idanm | so if I save a conifg, its the contents of this sector? |
22:57:33 | preglow | idanm: no |
22:57:42 | preglow | idanm: rockbox uses the sector for its automatic saving |
22:57:48 | preglow | if you explicitely ask for it, you'll get a file |
22:58:05 | preglow | this is what you do in the Manage Settings menu entr |
22:58:41 | linuxstb | preglow: I don't know. Whatever you think's best. |
22:59:25 | preglow | i have to read what interrupt i've got from a bit field |
22:59:39 | preglow | so it's not exactly a logical next step to convert that to an array entry |
22:59:42 | preglow | think i'll just hard code for now |
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23:00:36 | saa[b_r]ider | idanm: I think I didn't properly patch it :) |
23:00:47 | idanm | saa[b_r]ider: did u succeed? |
23:00:48 | preglow | linuxstb: can't be much doubt that i've got a timer tick going, i've removed the tick macro, and it still does shut down after a while |
23:00:53 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, tried the new button handler? |
23:01:09 | idanm | what's the problem? |
23:01:16 | saa[b_r]ider | idanm: I can't seem to find any option to choose the H300 remote |
23:01:30 | saa[b_r]ider | and the remote still acts funny |
23:02:00 | dropandho | what are u guys fixin on the remote? |
23:02:18 | saa[b_r]ider | drop: H300 LCD remote patch |
23:02:25 | dropandho | gotcha |
23:02:27 | dropandho | nicey |
23:02:38 | dropandho | im a heavy 120 remote user! |
23:02:41 | preglow | linuxstb: should i cobble together a quick build to see if it works for you? |
23:02:42 | linuxstb | preglow: No, I'm having problems with my ipod and my PC's USB at the moment. I think a reboot is needed. |
23:03:03 | linuxstb | Let me reboot, and I'll let you know. |
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23:03:16 | preglow | okies, don't take too long, i've gotta go soon |
23:03:18 | preglow | bah |
23:03:25 | dropandho | he is a quick one |
23:03:48 | idanm | I found a way to fix that, I just changed the default in the patch source to H300 LCD, then it's ok. |
23:04:19 | idanm | I can send you a script that do the whole thing if you like |
23:04:22 | saa[b_r]ider | idanm: is this the patch you used? [ 1367824 ] patch for H300 lcd remote buttons |
23:05:02 | idanm | what's this number? |
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23:05:33 | saa[b_r]ider | the code from sourceforge |
23:05:47 | idanm | ok I got it |
23:06:08 | idanm | sec |
23:06:46 | idanm | it's this one, but I changed line 102: |
23:06:50 | idanm | +static int remote_type = 1; |
23:08:00 | saa[b_r]ider | when you did the patch, which P did you use? 1-5? |
23:08:25 | idanm | 0 |
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23:08:43 | saa[b_r]ider | did it confirm that the patch was applied? |
23:08:55 | preglow | linuxstb: back on track? |
23:09:24 | idanm | I think so.. |
23:10:03 | saa[b_r]ider | idanm: this was the first time I tried to add patches... I was doing the remote patch, and another patch.... |
23:10:11 | linuxstb | preglow: I think so. You can send me a build to test if you want. |
23:10:16 | preglow | www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/rockbox.ipod |
23:10:51 | saa[b_r]ider | when commiting the remote patch, it didn't create a backup of the original button.c file |
23:11:22 | idanm | you used button.diff |
23:11:22 | idanm | ? |
23:11:28 | saa[b_r]ider | yeah |
23:11:28 | linuxstb | The LCD is corrupted - did you send me a Nano build? |
23:11:33 | preglow | hmm, no |
23:11:40 | idanm | so it's not that.. |
23:11:44 | preglow | let me try again, then |
23:11:58 | saa[b_r]ider | let me try to patch again |
23:12:04 | idanm | I downloaded it from a link in the forum, which is dead |
23:12:17 | idanm | no, it's remote_type.patch |
23:13:12 | idanm | do u want me to send it to u? |
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23:13:24 | saa[b_r]ider | oh? so you didn't use button.diff? yes please |
23:14:30 | preglow | linuxstb: try again now |
23:14:34 | preglow | used config option 13 and all |
23:14:42 | idanm | email? |
23:15:26 | preglow | works just peachy here, battery icon blinking, booting fine, rtc working |
23:15:30 | preglow | backlight and all |
23:15:47 | saa[b_r]ider | DCC? |
23:15:48 | lostlogic | anyone seen a bug with some certain cases of skip soon after track change causing a Codec failure? |
23:15:58 | idanm | how can I prevent rockbox from showing wma files? |
23:16:06 | preglow | lostlogic: no report, but i have seen it myself |
23:16:17 | idanm | <saa[b_r]ider> doens't work. |
23:16:39 | linuxstb | preglow: No, the same problem. All I get is a corrupted splash logo and it freezes. |
23:16:49 | preglow | great... |
23:16:50 | lostlogic | preglow: ok, I did modify the codec loading and starting code a teency bit to patch profiling in, so did you see it with or without my profiling code? |
23:16:59 | preglow | without |
23:17:03 | saa[b_r]ider | saab_rider@yahoo.com |
23:17:07 | preglow | but it's starting to be a long time ago |
23:17:10 | preglow | linuxstb: how is it garbled? |
23:17:14 | lostlogic | cool, thanks |
23:17:47 | saa[b_r]ider | idanm: so did you use both remote_type.patch and button.diff? |
23:18:06 | amiconn | preglow: I know about the choppy playback when mandelbrot does intensive calculations. It seems we need a more sophisticated yield scheme for swcodec platforms |
23:18:17 | idanm | sent |
23:18:21 | preglow | amiconn: oh? |
23:18:33 | idanm | no, no button.diff |
23:18:37 | amiconn | The simple 'yield once per pixel, but at most once per tick' scheme works well on archos |
23:18:38 | linuxstb | The top half of the screen just contains the bottom third of the logo. In about half of the bottom half of the screen, I get a garbled image |
23:18:55 | preglow | amiconn: ahh, right |
23:19:06 | amiconn | preglow: I mean the yield scheme in mandelbrot.rock |
23:19:17 | preglow | linuxstb: well, i've gotta go really soon, i'll just start commiting some odd bits and pieces that can't damage anything |
23:19:25 | preglow | amiconn: yeah, i got that eventually |
23:19:38 | idanm | saa: got it? |
23:19:42 | saa[b_r]ider | idanm: so now you can use your LCD h300 remote with no problem? |
23:20:03 | saa[b_r]ider | hmm.. lemme double check |
23:20:58 | idanm | yea |
23:21:26 | idanm | i'll be back in 10 mins. |
23:21:51 | saa[b_r]ider | aha, just got it.. tyt |
23:22:13 | Sanitarium | hey |
23:22:14 | amiconn | preglow: Do you know how large blocks a rockbox codec decodes between two yields? |
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23:24:44 | amiconn | Perhaps we could add a function to check the boost counter from a plugin. Whenever mandelbrot 'sees' boost counter > 1, which means 'someone else' also needs high performance, it would throttle its own calculations |
23:25:27 | preglow | amiconn: in samples? around 2000 stereo in average, perhaps |
23:25:52 | amiconn | 2000 in total, or 2000 per channel? |
23:27:07 | Sanitarium | do you guys know about #C? |
23:27:14 | Sanitarium | they might be able to help you |
23:29:13 | dwihno | I am a bit curious... Do any of you guys know the effect of a standard laptop transformator, running at ~18 volts? |
23:29:18 | dwihno | how many watts? |
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23:31:44 | petur | who did the H1xx LCD backlight control? |
23:31:54 | petur | Linus? |
23:31:55 | preglow | petur: slasheri |
23:32:12 | preglow | linuxstb: but ok, i've gotta go now, but will commit my stuff tomorrow, at which time we can see why it doesn't work for you |
23:32:40 | petur | Slasheri: are you around? |
23:33:08 | linuxstb | preglow: OK. |
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23:34:30 | idanm | saa: any success? |
23:35:03 | preglow | amiconn: you got any idea how a yield() can cause a stkov? |
23:35:27 | amiconn | The yield() never causes it, but the yield() does the check |
23:35:29 | petur | I'm off... goodnight |
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23:35:50 | preglow | amiconn: yes, but any yield should be called years after i've fixed the stack |
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23:36:21 | preglow | so i don't get how it can see a broken stack |
23:36:23 | preglow | anyway, anyway |
23:36:25 | preglow | i've gotta catch a bus |
23:36:26 | preglow | later |
23:37:37 | saa[b_r]ider | I checked it out, it needs to patch a number of files |
23:38:37 | idanm | so |
23:38:46 | saa[b_r]ider | preparing to patch :) |
23:44:40 | idanm | does anyone know how can I prevent rockbox from trying to play wma or just not to show them on supported files view/ |
23:48:04 | Moos | maybe try to change the extension name |
23:48:11 | Moos | instead of .wma |
23:48:49 | Sanitarium | yeah, to .crapperware |
23:48:54 | Sanitarium | then it wont show up |
23:48:55 | XavierGr | heha |
23:49:01 | XavierGr | crapperware? lol |
23:49:07 | Sanitarium | :P |
23:49:25 | Sanitarium | gtg |
23:49:27 | XavierGr | OMG is there a WMA lossless codec? |
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23:49:42 | San||Away | dont think so |
23:49:50 | Moos | where? :) |
23:50:06 | XavierGr | I just saw that in the audiophile entry in wikipedia |
23:50:10 | XavierGr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiophile |
23:50:13 | San||Away | link |
23:50:16 | San||Away | oh, too fast |
23:50:16 | San||Away | :P |
23:50:23 | XavierGr | probably he means wavpack |
23:51:10 | RotAtoR | there is wma lossless |
23:51:12 | San||Away | http://board.iexbeta.com/lofiversion/index.php/t48678.html |
23:51:29 | San||Away | [quote]err, no. |
23:51:29 | San||Away | WMA lossless is the best quality you can get. as good as CD. |
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23:51:32 | San||Away | lol |
23:51:37 | RotAtoR | i think it only comes with winxp pro |
23:51:56 | Moos | didn't know that here |
23:52:09 | San||Away | http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/boards/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000663.html |
23:52:09 | Moos | but not a big losing :) |
23:52:11 | San||Away | hhhmm^^ |
23:52:18 | RotAtoR | i don't know too many details about it, but it's not well supported anywhere |
23:52:24 | San||Away | its called WMA pro apparently |
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23:52:44 | RotAtoR | yep, and wma pro is incompatible with regular wma |
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