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| 00:01:11 | petur | yippie... prerecording is working :D |
| 00:01:37 | petur | silly me was using global_settings.rec_frequency in his calculation as frequency ;) |
| 00:06:00 | petur | LinusN: I'll create a patch tomorrow. changes are: uses circular buffer, no more glitches and pre-recording... will test more first... |
| 00:11:23 | petur | If somebody wants to test: http://users.telenet.be/mieke-en-peter/pcm_record.c.patch (patches file in /firmware - H1xx and H3xx only) |
| 00:14:47 | petur | goodnight |
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| 00:25:54 | miner49er | Hi there folks, I'm just updated CVS and now when I try to rebuild the simulator, I'm getting X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory. Any ideas? I'm keen to work on my plugin!!! |
| 00:26:30 | Bagder | what OS are you on? |
| 00:27:01 | miner49er | hi badger, i'm on Debian |
| 00:27:19 | Bagder | and you have x11 dev files installed? |
| 00:28:08 | miner49er | Well, it was bvuilding just before...well, i'd re-installed debian and just copied my rockbox stuff over, and was just running make again, so maybe i havn't..hang on. |
| 00:28:10 | Bagder | libxt-dev to be exact |
| 00:28:26 | Bagder | for that particular file |
| 00:30:02 | miner49er | duuh, that was it i think, I hadn't installed it... |
| 00:31:00 | miner49er | I searched for intrinsic.h in the debian package searcher tool and couldn't find it though, so thought it must have been something else |
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| 00:33:33 | Bagder | time for bed |
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| 00:37:15 | mirak | do you gain something by putting in assembly a simple C addition ? |
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| 00:41:10 | miner49er | Cheers Badger, it's working now :-) But I thought I would try out the iRiver simulator, is there a problem with that? |
| 00:48:50 | webguest31 | miner49er: next time, use packages.debian.org to search through the contents of all packages |
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| 02:18:12 | lostlogic | blast it, my latest assembly creation turns music into R2D2. |
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| 02:29:58 | AciD | hi |
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| 02:36:19 | AciD | as rockbox will be fully operationnal on ipod 5g and iriver h3xx (and I even saw that somebody's planning to port it to iaudio x5), what would be the best mp3 player to buy for christmas ? :) |
| 02:38:45 | markun | AciD: Depends what you want. |
| 02:39:04 | markun | iriver H140 is still nice if you only care about audio. |
| 02:39:16 | lostlogic | YES! The first part of oggpack_look is now assemblified. |
| 02:39:22 | AciD | I previously had an archos jukebox 6000, but it died few weeks ago |
| 02:40:13 | AciD | fortunatly, I can afford any mp3 player |
| 02:40:24 | AciD | so, I don't really know which one to take |
| 02:40:29 | markun | lostlogic: any speed improvement? |
| 02:41:11 | AciD | at least one supported by rockbox for sure :) |
| 02:41:17 | lostlogic | markun: a little, maybe 1% boost change, I haven't profiled it yet, I'm going to do the other half of this function and then profile, because basically I've only gotten 1/2 of the potential out of it because it's a big if-else and I did the if but not the else. |
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| 02:47:09 | linuxstb_ | AciD: We can't guarantee it will be fully operational on an ipod 5g, but I'm certainly going to try. Audio support is an unknown factor at the moment. |
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| 02:48:10 | AciD | so, if I had to choose between all the players supported (fully or partially) by rockbox, which would be the best ? |
| 02:48:14 | AciD | the ipod ? |
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| 03:07:26 | linuxstb | AciD: In terms of Rockbox support, I would rank the non-archos targets as follows: 1) H1x0, 2) H3x0, 3) ipod Color/Photo and ipod Nano, 4) ipod Video (5g) |
| 03:07:54 | AciD | and in term of functionnalities ? |
| 03:08:15 | linuxstb | The H1x0 is very well supported by Rockbox, and the H3x0 has almost caught up. Both are fully-functional ports. |
| 03:08:19 | AciD | including the ones that -will- be implemented in rockbox |
| 03:08:48 | AciD | ok so I guess it's heading me toward h3x0 |
| 03:09:20 | linuxstb | Personally, I like the new ipod Video a lot, but Rockbox isn't a sure bet. |
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| 03:09:50 | AciD | I just read the ipodlinux website, ipod 5g's audio futur is...unclear |
| 03:10:21 | linuxstb | I think it's just that no-one has investigated it yet. It could turn out to be a trivial change, or it could be very hard. |
| 03:10:44 | AciD | on a design point, I'd prefer the ipod over the h340, but if you can't use half of rockbox features on it... |
| 03:11:14 | AciD | I'm not sure I want to bet on that :) |
| 03:11:23 | linuxstb | If you wait a few weeks, the status of the 5g will probably become clearer. |
| 03:12:31 | AciD | surely |
| 03:13:11 | linuxstb | In terms of number of hardware features, you still can't beat the iriver h1x0 as an audio device. But of course it's not suited for video. |
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| 03:14:15 | AciD | you mean h3x0 aren't better than h1x0 ? |
| 03:14:23 | linuxstb | They are different. |
| 03:15:01 | linuxstb | The h3x0 has a colour screen and usb-on-the-go. The h1x0 has digital i/o. |
| 03:15:28 | linuxstb | I would expect the battery life to be longer on the h1x0, but that's only a guess. |
| 03:17:12 | linuxstb | Anyway, time for bed. |
| 03:17:15 | AciD | gn |
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| 05:48:38 | lostlogic | let's see if it plays music still! |
| 05:49:22 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 05:50:17 | lostlogic | it plays music still. |
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| 07:06:58 | YouCeyE | hi guys |
| 07:07:21 | YouCeyE | any good documents to start reading on programming embedded sys? |
| 07:07:36 | YouCeyE | u guys do real stuff right.. |
| 07:07:42 | YouCeyE | is it documented anywhere? |
| 07:07:58 | YouCeyE | i want to learn .. but want to read documents to get started |
| 07:08:04 | YouCeyE | and contribute later |
| 07:08:07 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 07:16:52 | Jungti1234 | hehe fine WPS: http://cafefiles.naver.net/data10/2005/12/20/190/%C6%F7%B8%CB%BA%AF%C8%AF_bg.gif |
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| 07:36:27 | warewolf | oh yaay |
| 07:36:36 | warewolf | rockbox for iriver h300 |
| 07:36:39 | * | warewolf loves you guys |
| 07:36:53 | DreamTactix291 | rockbox is great |
| 07:37:01 | warewolf | I just donated $20 via paypal to say thank you! |
| 07:37:19 | warewolf | keep up the awesome work guys, thank you very VERY much! |
| 07:37:19 | DreamTactix291 | i did that too when we first got something working on the H1xx |
| 07:37:39 | DreamTactix291 | H320 or H340? |
| 07:37:43 | warewolf | h340 |
| 07:37:47 | DreamTactix291 | how old now? |
| 07:37:55 | warewolf | the unit itself? |
| 07:37:58 | DreamTactix291 | yep |
| 07:37:59 | warewolf | a year old? |
| 07:38:00 | warewolf | maybe? |
| 07:38:05 | DreamTactix291 | just curious |
| 07:38:12 | DreamTactix291 | H140 here |
| 07:38:23 | warewolf | I already ripped it apart and fixed the USB OTG |
| 07:38:26 | warewolf | :) |
| 07:38:30 | Bger | morning :) |
| 07:38:33 | * | warewolf is half decent with a soldering iron |
| 07:38:41 | DreamTactix291 | ah so i see you have an US version |
| 07:38:47 | warewolf | Yis. |
| 07:38:49 | warewolf | (fuckers) |
| 07:39:02 | DreamTactix291 | all H1xxs were the same except colour |
| 07:39:06 | DreamTactix291 | all H140s were black though |
| 07:39:08 | warewolf | I really hate iRiver for ripping that out of hte US version |
| 07:39:23 | DreamTactix291 | me too |
| 07:39:34 | warewolf | also: I really hated them for unbundling the h3xx in-line remote. |
| 07:39:56 | DreamTactix291 | there's a reason i got an H1xx after the H3xx came out |
| 07:40:07 | DreamTactix291 | not long after though |
| 07:40:10 | warewolf | they distribute a hard case belt clip that not only covers the screen, but also the buttons. Eg, they never intended to sell the unit w/o the remote. |
| 07:40:28 | warewolf | then they hit you up for $20 or whatever it was for the remote |
| 07:40:38 | DreamTactix291 | or $60 for an LCD remote |
| 07:40:42 | DreamTactix291 | in contrary with the H1xx |
| 07:40:46 | DreamTactix291 | which had a good case |
| 07:40:48 | DreamTactix291 | and LCD remote |
| 07:40:52 | warewolf | I forgot what I paid for the lcd remote |
| 07:41:11 | warewolf | I purchased _two_ because one broke (the damn thing split apart) |
| 07:41:18 | DreamTactix291 | ouch |
| 07:41:25 | DreamTactix291 | my H140 remote is like 18 months old |
| 07:41:27 | DreamTactix291 | no problems |
| 07:43:19 | * | warewolf tests crossfading |
| 07:43:42 | warewolf | oh sexy. |
| 07:43:42 | DreamTactix291 | gapless is my favourite feature :) |
| 07:43:46 | warewolf | oh yes. |
| 07:43:55 | * | warewolf donates another $20 |
| 07:44:02 | DreamTactix291 | the WavPack support was nice for me too |
| 07:44:11 | DreamTactix291 | considering my entire lossless collection is WavPack |
| 07:44:12 | DreamTactix291 | though |
| 07:44:27 | DreamTactix291 | Vorbis aoTuV b4.51/Lancer -q6 for most of the stuff on my H140 |
| 07:45:18 | Bger | wow, DreamTactix291 :) |
| 07:45:36 | DreamTactix291 | very easy batch encode with foobar2000 |
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| 07:47:13 | warewolf | any idea how good the battery life is with rockbox on a h3xx? |
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| 07:47:27 | YouCeyE | what is crossfading? |
| 07:47:29 | warewolf | better/worse than the iriver firmware? |
| 07:47:47 | warewolf | YouCeyE: fade out one song just before it ends and fade into the next |
| 07:47:55 | YouCeyE | for 1xxs its better.. battery life |
| 07:48:01 | DreamTactix291 | probably worse right now on the H3xx |
| 07:48:02 | YouCeyE | oh ic warewolf |
| 07:48:09 | DreamTactix291 | H1xx is definitely better |
| 07:48:33 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 07:49:06 | Jungti1234 | haha I have H100 |
| 07:49:08 | warewolf | what more is there to complete for the h300 port? |
| 07:49:20 | warewolf | (Eg, is there anything I can test to help out) |
| 07:49:37 | Bger | warewolf hehe |
| 07:49:52 | Bger | USB host support (the biggest task) |
| 07:50:05 | Bger | which i'm willing to help |
| 07:50:07 | Jungti1234 | Video support |
| 07:50:14 | DreamTactix291 | lots of litle things |
| 07:50:15 | Bger | yeah, that's the other one |
| 07:50:23 | warewolf | OOh! |
| 07:50:27 | warewolf | I happen to have a OTG cable |
| 07:50:29 | warewolf | so I can test |
| 07:50:44 | Jungti1234 | What is OTG? |
| 07:50:49 | warewolf | USB On The Go |
| 07:50:51 | Bger | On-The-Go |
| 07:50:58 | warewolf | basically it turns your USB peripheral into a computer |
| 07:51:09 | YouCeyE | warewolf, how do u like h3xx? |
| 07:51:09 | Jungti1234 | What is On The Go..-_- |
| 07:51:11 | warewolf | so you can connect another USB peripherial into it, and sjuffle files around on it |
| 07:51:14 | YouCeyE | did u try h1xx? |
| 07:51:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: USB Host |
| 07:51:24 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 07:51:37 | warewolf | YouCeyE: I picked the H300 because it did not force me to use DRM crippled files |
| 07:51:42 | Jungti1234 | It need not to speak that is OTG. |
| 07:52:01 | warewolf | YouCeyE: oh, and because it was just a USB hard drive, basically. Which means 100% linux support |
| 07:52:06 | YouCeyE | only feature i miss in 1xx is otg |
| 07:52:20 | YouCeyE | yeah these irivers are awesome |
| 07:52:26 | YouCeyE | but i like 1xx look |
| 07:52:30 | YouCeyE | solid look |
| 07:52:31 | DreamTactix291 | yeah but i like having the S/PDIF |
| 07:52:33 | DreamTactix291 | me too |
| 07:52:34 | warewolf | I've owned iRiver products for quite some time |
| 07:52:36 | * | DreamTactix291 loves his H140 |
| 07:52:42 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 07:52:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Do iPods have USB OTG? (Or, a chip that can support it with different software?) |
| 07:52:48 | Jungti1234 | I don't like my H120 |
| 07:52:52 | DreamTactix291 | no |
| 07:52:58 | DreamTactix291 | why not? |
| 07:53:00 | Jungti1234 | It is old. |
| 07:53:03 | YouCeyE | Paul_The_Nerd, no |
| 07:53:04 | DreamTactix291 | and? |
| 07:53:05 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: (not kidding) Don't know, don't care, I have my iRiver with rockbox :) |
| 07:53:08 | DreamTactix291 | that doesn't make it bad |
| 07:53:14 | DreamTactix291 | the H1xx are my favourite DAPs |
| 07:53:17 | Bger | DreamTactix291 in fact the OTG of h300 could allow us digital output too |
| 07:53:19 | * | warewolf laughs his ass off :) |
| 07:53:29 | DreamTactix291 | true |
| 07:53:30 | DreamTactix291 | however |
| 07:53:31 | YouCeyE | any mods on irivers by u guys? |
| 07:53:41 | DreamTactix291 | my stereo doesn't have a USB connection |
| 07:53:47 | DreamTactix291 | but does have an S/PDIF connection |
| 07:53:50 | DreamTactix291 | so |
| 07:53:53 | YouCeyE | i want to mod the joy stick |
| 07:53:54 | DreamTactix291 | and no i haven't modded my H140 |
| 07:54:08 | Bger | my stereo doesn't have anything like this |
| 07:54:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | warewolf: I have an H120, but the iPod Nano appeals to me as a flash-base solution that will soon be Rockboxed. |
| 07:54:48 | DreamTactix291 | the nano as a flash player is fine |
| 07:54:56 | Jungti1234 | My H120.. :) http://cafefiles.naver.net/data10/2005/11/25/192/DSCN2233.jpg |
| 07:54:57 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: that would rock |
| 07:55:09 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: I rather like having gigs upon gigs of disk space available though |
| 07:55:17 | DreamTactix291 | wow your paint is all chipped away |
| 07:55:25 | Jungti1234 | kkk |
| 07:55:25 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: the only thing I do w/ my iriver h340 is plug it into USB to charge it |
| 07:55:36 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: I very rarely change what songs are on it |
| 07:55:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | warewolf: I love the space, but I'd rather have something that is more shake/impact resistant as well. |
| 07:55:45 | DreamTactix291 | i have some pics of my H140 |
| 07:55:51 | Jungti1234 | All paints came off. |
| 07:55:57 | Bger | i don't think anyone who has at least semi-healthy brain could buy non-rockboxed device, once he/she had rockboxed one (except for porting the rockbox, of course) |
| 07:56:04 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: what do you do, use a jackhammer? |
| 07:56:13 | warewolf | seriously |
| 07:56:54 | warewolf | I mean, I'm aware that I have a laptop hard drive in my pocket, and I do try not to have large solid objects run into it when it's spinning but laptop drives take something massive for G-forces when not spinning |
| 07:56:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | warewolf: It's more of a "I don't want to take my h120 jogging/etc because I know one day it will fail, and I'd rather have a unit designed for more active use. |
| 07:57:12 | Jungti1234 | And my H320.. http://jungti1234.netcci.net/blog/attach/1125/051125212410313525/181029.jpg |
| 07:57:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | When *not* spinning is the key. |
| 07:57:15 | warewolf | and I assume that the rockbox firmware spins down the disk when it isn't in use |
| 07:57:27 | DreamTactix291 | of course |
| 07:57:46 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: still, the g-forces accepted spinning are acceptable, aslong as you don't drop it |
| 07:58:03 | warewolf | Jungti1234: ... you .. painted .. your h3x0? |
| 07:58:05 | Bger | warewolf you can even select the timeout after which the disk spins down |
| 07:58:19 | Jungti1234 | warewolf: It's silicone case. :) |
| 07:58:27 | warewolf | woah |
| 07:58:28 | warewolf | bouncy? |
| 07:58:36 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 07:58:39 | DreamTactix291 | warewolf: you want to see my H140 in a silicone case? |
| 07:58:40 | warewolf | bwahhaa |
| 07:58:46 | warewolf | DreamTactix291: sure |
| 07:58:48 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
| 07:58:58 | Jungti1234 | Is H100 silicone case? |
| 07:58:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | warewolf: They still provide stress on it, even if they don't cause read-errors. The idea is that the H120 is for when I want access to all my music (Hotel rooms, car/train/plane trips, etc) and the Nano or other flash based player is for jogging / exercising / any situation in which an impact or in fact any stress might occur during buffering. |
| 07:59:06 | Jungti1234 | Does it exist? |
| 07:59:10 | YouCeyE | Jungti1234, where to download that wps file? |
| 07:59:37 | DreamTactix291 | http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/H140Pics/DSC00099.JPG <−− just a warning. the pic is large |
| 07:59:39 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: I'm not disagreeing with you, I just don't think it's that great of a concern. To each his own I guess. |
| 07:59:44 | Jungti1234 | YouCenE: http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1058 |
| 07:59:49 | Jungti1234 | y :) |
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| 08:00:09 | Jungti1234 | It's big size. :O |
| 08:00:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | warewolf: My concern isn't for "now" it's for "ever." It's already hard to find a replacement H120. I want to make sure the day that I have to pick a replacement DAP is as far away as I can. |
| 08:00:16 | DreamTactix291 | hence the warning |
| 08:00:31 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 08:01:00 | Jungti1234 | I want to have that. |
| 08:01:08 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: laptop drives are easy to come by though, or do the HXXX units have nonstandard drives in them? |
| 08:01:32 | Jungti1234 | DreamTactix291: Is not white color? |
| 08:01:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | warewolf: Standard 1.8" Single platter for the 20s and two-platter for the 40s (and the 120s at least won't fit a two platter without removing some padding. |
| 08:01:53 | DreamTactix291 | Jungti1234: that's my blue one |
| 08:02:07 | DreamTactix291 | warewolf: 1.8" Toshiba drives |
| 08:02:10 | Jungti1234 | Only one? |
| 08:02:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's easy enough to replace it. |
| 08:02:20 | warewolf | yeah |
| 08:02:25 | warewolf | that's what I presumed |
| 08:02:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | But I had a friend who's H120 died just because a purse was set on it particularly hard. And it was off. So I know there's *something* in there that doesn't handle impacts well. |
| 08:02:43 | warewolf | I'm working on a carpc mp3 player/gps nav project and I nabbed a 40gb WD laptop drive |
| 08:02:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | And it wasn't his HD. |
| 08:03:05 | DreamTactix291 | my H140 gets hooked up to the car most of the time |
| 08:03:08 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data10/2005/10/16/289/DSCN0574_1.jpg |
| 08:03:31 | warewolf | oh, the drives |
| 08:03:36 | warewolf | Jungti1234: thanks |
| 08:03:40 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 08:03:52 | DreamTactix291 | http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/H140Pics/DSC00101.JPG <−− one out of the case |
| 08:03:52 | warewolf | Jungti1234: mine looked like the one on the left, which i presume is two-platter |
| 08:04:01 | DreamTactix291 | H340 is dual platter |
| 08:04:08 | warewolf | yah |
| 08:04:29 | Jungti1234 | DreamTactix291: Can't I buy it? |
| 08:04:37 | DreamTactix291 | buy what? |
| 08:04:50 | nathanh_ | dream: nifty screenshot, how did you do the blue bars |
| 08:04:52 | Jungti1234 | silicone case |
| 08:05:14 | DreamTactix291 | for H1xx? |
| 08:05:15 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
| 08:05:17 | DreamTactix291 | iskin.com |
| 08:05:18 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 08:05:23 | Jungti1234 | thanks |
| 08:05:39 | DreamTactix291 | you're welcome |
| 08:05:54 | Jungti1234 | Good.. :) |
| 08:06:09 | DreamTactix291 | i managed to pick up all 5 colours |
| 08:06:11 | DreamTactix291 | so i change mine sometimes |
| 08:06:17 | Jungti1234 | By the way, is no there H300? |
| 08:06:37 | DreamTactix291 | iskin doesn't make them for the H300 |
| 08:07:06 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 08:07:30 | Jungti1234 | Korean H300 users want silicone case. |
| 08:07:46 | Jungti1234 | So, they do bulk purchase in abroad. |
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| 08:09:08 | DreamTactix291 | hello |
| 08:09:57 | Jungti1234 | I made wiki. :) http://jungti1234.netcci.net/wiki/wiki.php |
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| 08:10:31 | warewolf | alrighty |
| 08:10:35 | warewolf | thanks again rockbox devs |
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| 08:10:49 | Jungti1234 | bye |
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| 08:20:12 | Hooligan | How hard would it be to add a feature or plugin that when, for example the file artist - title.mp3 starts playing it searches for artist - title.txt in the same directory and displays the contents in the viewer? |
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| 08:28:20 | nathanh_ | hooligan: pretty easy |
| 08:28:51 | Hooligan | nathanh: I know just enough C to know that it's not that hard, but not quite enough to actually implement it. |
| 08:29:09 | Hooligan | Back to studying, I guess. |
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| 08:31:05 | Hooligan | Though if anyone feels like taking the time down the road to do it in the meantime feel free to, haha. |
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| 08:31:41 | DreamTactix291 | i know some C |
| 08:31:49 | DreamTactix291 | but not enough to actually program anything too complex |
| 08:33:54 | Jungti1234 | I will come back. :) |
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| 08:36:48 | Hooligan | Question though: Would it be better/easier to make that a built-in function or a plugin? |
| 08:37:32 | DreamTactix291 | i'm not sure |
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| 10:06:00 | * | linuxstb has noise coming out of his ipod... |
| 10:06:34 | preglow | has he? |
| 10:06:40 | * | Hooligan recommends holy water |
| 10:06:41 | preglow | coherent noise? :> |
| 10:06:45 | linuxstb | Almost.... |
| 10:06:58 | preglow | this calls for a drink! |
| 10:07:08 | linuxstb | Coffee! |
| 10:07:11 | preglow | tea! |
| 10:07:13 | Bagder | coffee! |
| 10:07:16 | Hooligan | If not several! |
| 10:07:24 | linuxstb | Coftea |
| 10:07:27 | preglow | hahah |
| 10:07:35 | Hooligan | Blasphemy |
| 10:07:38 | preglow | i just had two cups of coffee, so i'll stay off of that for the betterment of my stomach |
| 10:07:53 | Hooligan | I can't stand coffee. |
| 10:07:58 | preglow | oh, i can |
| 10:08:00 | preglow | just not tons of it |
| 10:08:22 | linuxstb | You can't beat espresso in the morning. |
| 10:08:40 | Hooligan | IV caffiene drip? |
| 10:09:02 | preglow | hahah |
| 10:09:17 | preglow | might as well just drop amphetamine |
| 10:09:18 | linuxstb | Nah, you need the taste of coffee stuck to the back of your throat. |
| 10:09:38 | Hooligan | Real men simply don't sleep |
| 10:10:32 | preglow | don't mention sleep |
| 10:11:28 | preglow | haha, GREAT |
| 10:11:29 | preglow | rain |
| 10:11:40 | Hooligan | So, I'm trying to figure out how one would write a function or plugin that takes the file name of the currently playing track and searches for a file in the same directory with the same name, but .txt extension and displays the contents in the viewer. A lyrics plugin, in other words. |
| 10:11:46 | Hooligan | I don't quite know enough C to do it though |
| 10:11:53 | * | Cassandra agrees with linuxstb - espresso is the gift that keeps on giving. |
| 10:12:07 | Cassandra | Me, I'm out of beans so I'm on tea this morning. :( |
| 10:18:48 | preglow | glorious tea |
| 10:18:58 | preglow | at least i can drink tons of it without my innards exploding |
| 10:19:20 | preglow | my throat in particular is fond of coffee, it seems |
| 10:19:59 | preglow | linuxstb: anywho, how much code have you stuffed in? is there any risk of it making coherent noise today? |
| 10:21:19 | linuxstb | I spent last night trying without success to get the fiq working. I've just tried writing audio data without using interrupts and noise happened immediately. |
| 10:21:33 | preglow | so, have you got the fiq working? |
| 10:21:38 | linuxstb | No. |
| 10:21:39 | preglow | i assume you've set up stacks and such for it? |
| 10:22:10 | linuxstb | Yes, but I could never get the fiq to happen. |
| 10:22:31 | preglow | strange |
| 10:22:34 | linuxstb | I'm assuming the code is different because IPL enable fiqs for the cop? |
| 10:22:42 | preglow | yes |
| 10:22:51 | preglow | they do some fancy stuff |
| 10:27:52 | preglow | could you make me a diff or something? |
| 10:27:59 | preglow | just to see if i can spot something |
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| 10:35:04 | linuxstb | preglow: It's a mess at the moment, but I can give you my tree if you want. |
| 10:35:13 | linuxstb | (a patch I mean) |
| 10:35:17 | * | amiconn wonders why people prefer extended guesswork over checking documentation :/ |
| 10:36:18 | linuxstb | Pass me the documentation on the PP5020 then :) |
| 10:36:40 | preglow | you have that? sweet, my worries are over |
| 10:36:49 | Bagder | maybe we could buy PortalPlayer for the rockbox fund! ;-) |
| 10:36:58 | preglow | haha |
| 10:37:05 | preglow | send them a tenner and a request for docs |
| 10:37:32 | amiconn | linuxstb: Haha. I mean documentation that is available, like the rockbox manual, faq, wiki... |
| 10:37:41 | Bagder | "Dear Portalplayer, we'll gladly pay you the sum of 10 USD in exchange for your documentation." |
| 10:38:04 | preglow | people prefer asking other people |
| 10:38:13 | linuxstb | amiconn: You perfectly described my last 24 hours though. |
| 10:38:22 | preglow | besides, most people have gotten used to never reading manuals |
| 10:39:13 | preglow | perhaps that extends to reading other material as well :> |
| 10:39:55 | amiconn | It's tiring to answer the same questions over and over.. I mean things like this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2025.msg14923#msg14923 |
| 10:40:58 | preglow | hahahah |
| 10:41:16 | nathanh_ | amiconn: what does rockbox do?! |
| 10:41:48 | Cassandra | I still think we need electric shock via IP. Simple conditioning should be enough to fix this. |
| 10:42:10 | amiconn | Nothing. The archos fm recorder / recorder v2 charging is hardware controlled, as it has a LiIon battery like the irivers |
| 10:42:26 | amiconn | Software controlled charging with LiIons would be dangerous |
| 10:44:06 | Cassandra | I spend large chunks of time trying to make Rockbox so simple an idiot could use it, and they keep building better idiots. It's just not fair. ;) |
| 10:44:23 | preglow | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2025.msg14923#msg14923 |
| 10:44:28 | preglow | sorry, spurious paste |
| 10:44:32 | Bger | hahaha Cassandra :) |
| 10:44:32 | * | preglow reconfigures putty |
| 10:44:55 | Bger | this is a rule, don't expect it to be otherwise |
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| 10:54:17 | Cassandra | Does it push up my geek cool factor if I tell you that the guy who wrote PuTTY is a personal friend? |
| 10:54:33 | Cassandra | (although given my email address, perhaps this shouldn't be a total surprise) |
| 10:54:56 | nathanh_ | geek + cool = does not compute |
| 10:55:03 | * | Bagder adds one to Cassandra's geek score |
| 10:55:16 | ze | nathanh_: sure it does |
| 10:55:30 | ze | nathanh_: geek = (nerd-dork)+cool |
| 10:57:13 | Cassandra | That's how I've always thought about it. |
| 10:57:23 | Cassandra | Or rather geeks are nerds with social skills. |
| 10:57:41 | ze | sorta |
| 10:58:10 | ze | i tend to think geek skills extend beyond nerddom, not necessarily limited to social |
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| 11:00:10 | preglow | haha |
| 11:00:41 | preglow | i'll just go to you if something about putty bothers me, then |
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| 11:03:24 | Cassandra | Poor Simon. He scares me, every time someone discovers a buffer overflow (which has happened about 3 times in the history) he goes through agonies of doubt. |
| 11:03:27 | lamed | morning |
| 11:05:00 | nathanh_ | somebody got a sound card on linux? |
| 11:05:26 | Cassandra | Yes. It's not plugged into any speakers though. :) |
| 11:05:30 | nathanh_ | :- |
| 11:05:40 | Cassandra | Sometimes I delight in unhelpful yet truthful replies. Sorry. |
| 11:05:58 | Bagder | I do |
| 11:06:03 | Bagder | and I even have speakers |
| 11:06:36 | preglow | i've even got a rather posh one |
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| 11:06:49 | nathanh_ | could you test out the sdl audio patch, i have no soundcard in linux |
| 11:06:53 | moda | what happened to color wps for the h300? |
| 11:07:14 | nathanh_ | moda: im doing the sdl patch first, so i can test gui changes without having to plug/replug my h300 |
| 11:07:24 | moda | ok |
| 11:07:35 | moda | sdl? |
| 11:07:52 | nathanh_ | for the ui simulator |
| 11:07:56 | moda | oh |
| 11:09:35 | Bagder | well, the sound code looks like the one I wrote |
| 11:09:40 | Bagder | what's the difference? |
| 11:09:48 | nathanh_ | i havent posted the sound code yet :-) |
| 11:09:49 | nathanh_ | im still writing it |
| 11:10:08 | Bagder | there is sound.c etc in your sdl patch |
| 11:10:08 | Bagder | so you did |
| 11:10:50 | linuxstb | preglow: This patch should give you stuttering audio: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/audio.diff |
| 11:10:54 | nathanh_ | nah, thats just x11/sound.c copied across, sdl/sound.c is still being written |
| 11:11:02 | preglow | and how should the audio sound? |
| 11:11:06 | linuxstb | perfect. |
| 11:11:09 | nathanh_ | i need somebody to test it though, so thanks for volunteering :-) |
| 11:11:26 | linuxstb | But it stutters, and there is occasional white noise (but not too noisy). |
| 11:12:27 | linuxstb | The stuttering is (I think) because I'm playing back the audio in the codec thread - so it delays decoding whilst the buffer is sent to the DAC. |
| 11:13:23 | Cassandra | Does Rockbox play MIDI files these days, btw? |
| 11:13:50 | preglow | well |
| 11:13:51 | preglow | somewhat |
| 11:13:56 | preglow | there's this plugin |
| 11:14:38 | Cassandra | Plugin? |
| 11:15:42 | preglow | yes |
| 11:15:45 | preglow | it isn't a codec yet |
| 11:16:08 | preglow | first of all, it's not that optimised, second of all, the playback system isn't ready for non-streaming codecs yet |
| 11:16:35 | Cassandra | Does it sound good? |
| 11:16:41 | preglow | decent |
| 11:16:47 | preglow | depends on the sample set you use |
| 11:17:02 | preglow | man, sometimes decompressing to the nano takes forever |
| 11:17:05 | Cassandra | I'm developing a hankering for listening to some tunes from Monkey Island, which are of course only available in MIDI format. |
| 11:17:16 | preglow | the example tune he used was the monkey island theme :) |
| 11:17:26 | Cassandra | Where do I get a decent sample set? |
| 11:18:16 | preglow | great! i can't paste with middle mouse because windows has hooked that! |
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| 11:19:45 | preglow | ARGH |
| 11:20:02 | Bger | preglow relax:P |
| 11:20:05 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs |
| 11:20:09 | preglow | near the bottom is midi |
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| 11:20:30 | linuxstb | preglow: Any luck with the audio? |
| 11:20:39 | preglow | i'm _STILL_ waiting for the bloody unzippping |
| 11:20:41 | nathanh_ | i got a friend who can play all the monkey island songs on his midi keyboard |
| 11:20:46 | nathanh_ | he's freaky good |
| 11:20:57 | nathanh_ | he's also like 30 years old, so its kind of creepy :-) |
| 11:21:02 | preglow | pft |
| 11:21:31 | preglow | thirty = golden age of human |
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| 11:21:57 | Bagder | 30 yearolds are creepy, yes |
| 11:22:02 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 11:22:45 | Cassandra | What's creepy about being 30? |
| 11:23:06 | Kingstone | who's 30? |
| 11:23:14 | Bagder | the unspoiled youth and the innocense |
| 11:23:20 | Cassandra | Just about the entire Rockbox core team. |
| 11:23:30 | Cassandra | Well, in their thirties. |
| 11:23:34 | Bagder | hehe |
| 11:24:22 | Bger | well, i'm near 030 :) |
| 11:24:39 | Bagder | I'm not even close to 0x30 |
| 11:24:48 | lamed | guys, a question. I see that ipod's simulator is up and running, but there's currently no ipod build over the download page. are the ipod builds running? |
| 11:25:29 | preglow | hah |
| 11:25:30 | Cassandra | Yes, but not stably enough that dailies are a good idea yet. |
| 11:25:32 | * | preglow has ipod audio |
| 11:25:41 | Cassandra | Woohoo! |
| 11:25:58 | preglow | now let's try to enable the cache and perhaps it'll be better |
| 11:26:04 | preglow | the little i heard was completely decent |
| 11:27:07 | lamed | 10x |
| 11:27:42 | moda | jeez, once the ipod croud get wind of rockbox working on the ipod, then woosh |
| 11:27:50 | moda | except, they already have ipod-linux |
| 11:28:15 | preglow | linuxstb: for some reason, sound is quite crap with cache enabled.. |
| 11:28:33 | preglow | everything sounds like cross between venetian snares and merzbow |
| 11:28:34 | preglow | haha |
| 11:28:52 | linuxstb | Strange. |
| 11:29:06 | preglow | hahaha |
| 11:29:14 | preglow | flac playback almost works completely 100% |
| 11:29:21 | preglow | the sample rate is a bit wrong |
| 11:29:27 | preglow | and there's the occasional static burst |
| 11:29:44 | nathanh_ | if ipod nano gets rockbox working, ill seriously buy one the same day |
| 11:30:03 | preglow | well, i am listening to music on one as we speak... |
| 11:30:12 | * | nathanh_ curses credit card |
| 11:30:17 | nathanh_ | ok, i'll have to get one now :-) |
| 11:30:18 | lamed | what's the older ipod model? (grayscale lcd)? nano? |
| 11:30:29 | linuxstb | preglow: I have to go now. If you want to continue the audio work, then make sure you have the very latest audio.c from IPL - a bugfix was committed about 10 days ago. |
| 11:30:30 | preglow | i assume you yourself saw my comments about static bursts, but hey |
| 11:30:41 | preglow | linuxstb: yes, i update from time to time |
| 11:31:00 | preglow | but i don't have time to code rockbox now anyway |
| 11:31:34 | * | iLyric Flips the switch too his desktop espresso machine |
| 11:31:45 | iLyric | mmmmmmm |
| 11:32:05 | preglow | libmad seems to be in need for some cpr |
| 11:32:07 | linuxstb | If you view the audio thread, then you will see the pcm buffer is always empty - even with WAV files. So that's obviously the cause of the stuttering. |
| 11:32:54 | preglow | flac works perfectly |
| 11:32:56 | preglow | wavpack as well |
| 11:33:01 | preglow | that is |
| 11:33:03 | linuxstb | You mean without stutters? |
| 11:33:05 | preglow | the sound is good |
| 11:33:09 | preglow | and the stutters are very small |
| 11:33:47 | linuxstb | I want to test 24-bit playback. According to the codec datasheet it should be possible. |
| 11:34:12 | linuxstb | The DAC can also handle all frequencies up to 96KHz. |
| 11:34:20 | linuxstb | So none of this resampling nonsense. |
| 11:34:28 | preglow | even aac works pretty nice |
| 11:34:54 | preglow | well, our dac can also handle more frequencies than we can use |
| 11:34:58 | preglow | that's not the problem |
| 11:35:31 | linuxstb | I know. But IPL can use all the frequencies of the DAC - so there is no problem on the ipod. |
| 11:35:37 | nathanh_ | bagder: ive uploaded the sdl audio patch, could you please test? |
| 11:36:13 | linuxstb | bbl |
| 11:36:52 | Cassandra | Hmm. This nifty retractable iPod cable I bought seems to work, although it looks like it might violate several USB specs. |
| 11:38:12 | * | Cassandra giggles as she relises that the cable is bigger than the Nano is. |
| 11:38:20 | preglow | retractable? |
| 11:38:22 | preglow | wha? |
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| 11:44:22 | Cassandra | It's spring loaded. Have a look on eBay. |
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| 11:59:37 | lamed | is it _phisicaly_ possible to hold select and scroll forward the ipod's keypad? - it's seems to me by the simulator that the hardware allows that. |
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| 12:00:27 | lamed | preglow: you have an ipod right? |
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| 12:02:04 | preglow | yea |
| 12:02:28 | preglow | if it's possible to hold select and simultaneously scroll the wheel? |
| 12:02:55 | lamed | yea |
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| 12:06:53 | lamed | preglow? |
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| 12:09:20 | Jungti1234 | I came back! |
| 12:10:54 | Bger | hahaha "Guru Meditation" |
| 12:12:49 | preglow | lamed: yes, it is possible |
| 12:12:57 | lamed | 10x |
| 12:14:21 | ashridah | Bger: isn't that an apple crash message or something along those lines? |
| 12:14:34 | preglow | amiga |
| 12:14:42 | Bger | aha |
| 12:14:47 | Bger | amiga, that is |
| 12:15:16 | Bger | also called "trip to india" haha |
| 12:15:41 | ashridah | heh |
| 12:15:49 | ashridah | that's the one. |
| 12:15:57 | Bger | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation |
| 12:16:07 | Jungti1234 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation |
| 12:17:58 | Nibbler | die gute guru |
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| 12:20:45 | Jungti1234 | hahahaha |
| 12:20:45 | Jungti1234 | http://todaysppc.dreamwiz.com/zb41/data/free/1134376993/1.jpg |
| 12:21:28 | Jungti1234 | It's 'i-Bob nano' |
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| 13:02:41 | Bger | Petur hi ;) |
| 13:02:51 | Petur | hey |
| 13:03:07 | Bger | could i ask you to edit the brightness patch ? |
| 13:03:13 | Petur | sure |
| 13:03:22 | Petur | what's with it? |
| 13:03:53 | Bger | yesterday amiconn and LinusN decided that it's more suitable to be "backlight_brightness" |
| 13:04:03 | Petur | I read that :D |
| 13:04:35 | Bger | and maybe lcd_brightness should be backlight_brightness and should go in firmware/backlight.c ? |
| 13:04:48 | Petur | you know what, I'll edit your edit of my patch ;) |
| 13:05:11 | Bger | oki ;) i suppose it'll be easier |
| 13:05:36 | Petur | I'll try to do it this evening... also have the pre-recording patch to submit (seems to be working here) |
| 13:05:49 | Bger | i'll do some more work on the lcd driver |
| 13:05:54 | Petur | nice |
| 13:06:04 | Bger | did you try it ? |
| 13:06:11 | Petur | not yet |
| 13:06:21 | Bger | the power on is slow ... |
| 13:06:34 | Petur | spent too much time yesterday hunting a stupid bug |
| 13:06:38 | Bger | hehehe |
| 13:06:57 | Petur | was using settings frequency in my calculation |
| 13:07:20 | Petur | but it contains something like an index, not the actual frequancy :) |
| 13:07:28 | Petur | (frequency) |
| 13:07:29 | Bger | ah :) |
| 13:07:47 | Petur | stupid |
| 13:07:51 | Petur | of me |
| 13:08:03 | Bger | stupid naming, more likely |
| 13:08:18 | Petur | like lcd_brightness :) |
| 13:08:47 | Bger | much more |
| 13:13:34 | Petur | there aren't many commits being done |
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| 13:15:23 | Bger | there will be |
| 13:17:34 | Petur | I will try to get this recording stuff done before next week, as I'm off for a week (skiing) |
| 13:17:51 | Petur | holiday! |
| 13:18:04 | preglow | altogether nicer use of your time |
| 13:18:31 | Petur | and I don't take a computer with me |
| 13:18:42 | Bger | haha |
| 13:18:45 | Bger | sure |
| 13:18:52 | Petur | ok, my PDA |
| 13:18:55 | Petur | :) |
| 13:19:23 | Bger | Petur: PM |
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| 13:24:43 | Bger | yes, i saw |
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| 13:27:24 | Bger | bye |
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| 14:15:44 | Mongey| | anyone here? |
| 14:16:27 | _FireFly_ | no ;) |
| 14:19:27 | ratpack91 | no one is here |
| 14:21:27 | Mongey| | can someone put Kyle's h300 remote patch into the dailybuilds |
| 14:21:36 | Mongey| | please |
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| 14:21:53 | amiconn | Bger, preglo |
| 14:22:01 | amiconn | oops, sorry |
| 14:23:01 | Mongey| | i have got it on my h340 at the moment, but i want to change the lcd colour so...... |
| 14:24:24 | Bger | amiconn, yes? |
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| 14:25:57 | Mongey| | Bger can you? |
| 14:26:35 | Bger | w8 sec |
| 14:26:46 | Mongey| | ty |
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| 14:31:40 | XavierGr | Cassandra: There is a Midi plugin but right now it is unusable. |
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| 14:31:58 | XavierGr | When the xxx2wav files were removed. |
| 14:32:08 | XavierGr | ah too late |
| 14:32:14 | XavierGr | Bger are you here |
| 14:32:14 | Bger | Mongey| what patches |
| 14:32:16 | XavierGr | ? |
| 14:33:11 | XavierGr | Bger: You were mentioning something about the battery benchmark plugin yesterday.... |
| 14:34:37 | Bger | yes, i am:) |
| 14:34:58 | XavierGr | Ok what do you want me to change? |
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| 14:35:12 | Bger | did u see the link ? |
| 14:35:25 | XavierGr | yeap |
| 14:35:43 | Bger | i want do edit something |
| 14:35:57 | XavierGr | You want the introduction cut off? |
| 14:36:04 | Mongey| | ill send you it |
| 14:36:04 | Bger | no, no:) |
| 14:36:06 | XavierGr | or the resuming line? |
| 14:36:24 | XavierGr | Or do you want the timer to continue if there is the log file |
| 14:36:26 | Bger | i just gave you the link to see the results |
| 14:36:49 | XavierGr | but there wasn't any changes were there any? :x |
| 14:37:17 | XavierGr | could you give me the link once more. |
| 14:37:24 | Bger | just a sec |
| 14:37:33 | XavierGr | Maybe I forgot my own plugin layout :) |
| 14:38:40 | Bger | :P |
| 14:39:13 | Mongey| | Bger |
| 14:39:17 | Mongey| | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=44306&atid=439120&file_id=159520&aid=1367824 |
| 14:40:12 | Bger | yes, Mongey| ? |
| 14:40:34 | Mongey| | thats the patch |
| 14:40:51 | Bger | ah ? |
| 14:40:55 | Bger | isn't that my patch :P |
| 14:41:11 | Mongey| | lol, is it? |
| 14:41:29 | Mongey| | haha sorry bout that |
| 14:42:19 | Mongey| | ok, ive gtg |
| 14:42:28 | Mongey| | time to reboot |
| 14:42:32 | Mongey| | in a min] |
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| 14:43:27 | qwisp11 | afternoon all |
| 14:50:27 | Bger | afternoon |
| 14:51:14 | ratpack91 | any one here used uC/OS-II? |
| 14:52:04 | _FireFly_ | ratpack91what's that ?? |
| 14:53:40 | ratpack91 | real-time OS for microcontrollers. I'm using it for my uni project on an HCS12. trying to understand it. http://www.ucos-ii.com/ |
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| 14:54:27 | Bagder | everyone has their own real-time OS |
| 14:54:36 | Bagder | Rockbox too! ;-) |
| 14:54:50 | Bger | haha is RB RT-OS ? |
| 14:55:00 | Bagder | well, in a broader sense |
| 14:55:06 | ratpack91 | realtime for music at least |
| 14:55:10 | Bagder | most real-time OSes are just small OSes |
| 14:55:24 | Bagder | the "real-time" is often to be take liberally |
| 14:55:28 | Bagder | taken |
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| 14:55:55 | ratpack91 | well if you are using it to control the brakes on your car then real time means something |
| 14:56:04 | Bagder | of course |
| 14:56:08 | Bger | haha |
| 14:56:12 | Bagder | but then you don't just trust their naming of the OS |
| 14:56:16 | Bger | reaction in 2-3 secs ... |
| 14:57:27 | ratpack91 | that's why they need certification i guess. |
| 14:57:41 | Bagder | "stop securely and reboot" - actual error message from a Volvo S80 |
| 14:57:50 | Bger | what??? |
| 14:57:54 | ratpack91 | lol |
| 14:57:54 | Bagder | (although the message is in Swedish) |
| 14:58:08 | Bagder | the term wasn't actually reboot |
| 14:58:16 | Bagder | but stop and start again |
| 14:59:06 | ratpack91 | "i;m sorry the brake system is being blocked by the cd-player process, please wait" |
| 14:59:31 | Bger | heh |
| 14:59:47 | Bger | "there is internal error in the OS of your car, thus stopping immediately!" |
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| 15:00:38 | ratpack91 | i told you not to install rockbox on your car |
| 15:01:30 | Bger | this would be very amazing message on a highway ... |
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| 15:03:29 | Bger | really, the products for cars etc are passing really "horror" tests |
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| 15:16:28 | tuxianer | hi |
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| 15:17:50 | Bger | Mongey| i'll commit the patch after some more work and a bless from the masters |
| 15:18:02 | Mongey| | ty |
| 15:18:07 | tuxianer | can you tell me som inofficial rbox plugins? |
| 15:18:15 | Mongey| | Misticboys will be happy |
| 15:18:43 | qwisp11 | : whats the patch for? |
| 15:19:05 | Mongey| | h300 remote |
| 15:20:00 | qwisp11 | nice |
| 15:20:11 | tuxianer | i have a h120 what plugins are useful? |
| 15:20:36 | ratpack91 | remote would be nice |
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| 15:21:42 | Bger | amiconn ? Bagder ? any objections in making temporary setting "H100/H300 LCD remote" till we find out how to distinguish these ? |
| 15:22:07 | Bger | there are many users with h300 LCD remotes ... |
| 15:22:21 | Mongey| | is that a question? |
| 15:22:28 | Mongey| | if so yes |
| 15:22:51 | Bger | yes, it's a question |
| 15:24:11 | Mongey| | yeah was, might still be the most wanted assecery |
| 15:24:57 | XavierGr | Mongey|: "Yes" as to: "I've got an objection"? |
| 15:25:13 | Mongey| | huh? |
| 15:25:29 | Mongey| | Bger; look at the poll >>http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=17552&highlight=h300+lcd+remote |
| 15:26:06 | XavierGr | Mongey|: I am kidding. |
| 15:26:11 | Mongey| | <XavierGr> Mongey|: "Yes" as to: "I've got an objection"? <<< does not compute |
| 15:26:34 | XavierGr | Mongey|: It is just that Bger asked if there are any objections, and your answer was Yes |
| 15:26:45 | XavierGr | Yes = there are objections. |
| 15:26:57 | Bger | there were objections, btw |
| 15:26:57 | XavierGr | No = there are not any objections |
| 15:27:07 | Bger | amiconn said "no more options" ... |
| 15:27:09 | Bger | :( |
| 15:28:05 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 15:28:09 | Bger | bye, Jungti1234 |
| 15:28:13 | Jungti1234 | :) |
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| 15:28:43 | Mongey| | there are not any objections from me |
| 15:29:18 | Mongey| | lol, i completely misread that |
| 15:29:36 | Bger | Mongey| i said "the masters" which are the master/core developers: Bagder,LinusN,Zagor,amiconn |
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| 15:30:27 | Mongey| | forget all my posts |
| 15:30:35 | Mongey| | lol |
| 15:30:43 | Bger | :P |
| 15:30:49 | Bger | never mind |
| 15:30:54 | Mongey| | except for the ones where i made sense |
| 15:31:00 | Bger | i'm sure that if you have h300 lcd remote, u'll want the patch |
| 15:31:28 | Mongey| | yep |
| 15:31:32 | Mongey| | and i have one |
| 15:32:47 | Mongey| | 1 question, not about Rb but... on my archos av560, |
| 15:34:19 | Mongey| | when i connect it to my pc(xp sp2) it comesup as a removanle drive, fine so far, but when i go to explore it, nothind apperars, a box pops up and asks me to format it, |
| 15:35:14 | Bger | hm |
| 15:35:26 | Bger | does the unit work ok ? |
| 15:36:13 | Mongey| | perfect |
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| 15:36:34 | Mongey| | and is reconised when switched to MTP |
| 15:37:10 | Mongey| | i can browse in MTP and copy in MTP(im backing all the music and videos up now) |
| 15:37:37 | Bger | hm... |
| 15:37:51 | Bger | then it uses some special file system or ... |
| 15:38:07 | Mongey| | but it had worked before |
| 15:38:21 | Mongey| | ... |
| 15:38:25 | Bger | huh? |
| 15:38:29 | Mongey| | before i upgraded to sp2 |
| 15:38:35 | Bger | very strange |
| 15:38:47 | Bger | did you try the unit on other PC ? |
| 15:38:56 | Mongey| | no |
| 15:39:06 | Mongey| | none available at the moment |
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| 15:39:19 | Bger | really, i don't know this archos device |
| 15:39:28 | Mongey| | but im backing everthing up |
| 15:39:30 | Mongey| | kk |
| 15:39:36 | Mongey| | very nice |
| 15:39:41 | Mongey| | so it is |
| 15:41:55 | preglow | bbl |
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| 16:35:40 | DCJoeDog | Any non-idlers about? |
| 16:35:51 | Bger | úåï |
| 16:35:53 | Bger | yep |
| 16:36:04 | DCJoeDog | cool, maybe you can help me |
| 16:36:21 | DCJoeDog | Have any idea where I can get the files for rockboy on iriver? |
| 16:37:21 | Bger | peer 2 peer ... |
| 16:37:33 | Bger | that is, on peer 2 peer networks |
| 16:37:43 | DCJoeDog | aww man, is that the only way currently? |
| 16:37:54 | Bger | except for legal ones ... |
| 16:38:01 | DCJoeDog | to TPB with me then |
| 16:39:01 | DCJoeDog | where can I find one of the legal ones then? |
| 16:40:44 | Bger | search google. .. :( |
| 16:40:49 | Bger | i can't tell you more |
| 16:42:17 | DCJoeDog | ok, I guess |
| 16:42:26 | DCJoeDog | been going thru google for a bit now tho |
| 16:42:45 | DCJoeDog | and the only place that said they had a "recent build" of it didn't have it at all |
| 16:43:26 | markun | Is it not in the normal builds? |
| 16:44:03 | markun | DCJoeDog: are you talking about rockboy or gameboy roms? |
| 16:44:32 | DCJoeDog | rockboy itself |
| 16:44:48 | DCJoeDog | I don't need help for roms, I've ripped all my own games |
| 16:45:07 | Bger | aaaaaa |
| 16:45:11 | Bger | oh |
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| 16:45:32 | Bger | DCJoeDog it's built for h300 and h100 |
| 16:45:52 | Bger | u must put roms to your iriver with .gb extension |
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| 16:46:10 | DCJoeDog | in root? |
| 16:46:15 | DCJoeDog | or a specific folder? |
| 16:46:24 | Bger | no, where do you want |
| 16:46:52 | DCJoeDog | So rockboy should just be in "Browse plugins" then? |
| 16:47:02 | Bger | no, it's hidden |
| 16:47:14 | DCJoeDog | grr |
| 16:47:17 | DCJoeDog | lol |
| 16:47:17 | Bger | but you will launch it when you "play" a file with .gb extension |
| 16:47:35 | DCJoeDog | start flile thing? |
| 16:48:23 | DCJoeDog | ahh, "open eith" |
| 16:48:28 | DCJoeDog | err with |
| 16:48:36 | DCJoeDog | thanks |
| 16:48:47 | DCJoeDog | got rockbox 2 days ago |
| 16:49:40 | Bger | np |
| 16:49:54 | Mongey| | DCJoeDog, do you have a h300 |
| 16:50:18 | DCJoeDog | H320 |
| 16:50:56 | DCJoeDog | I was using 1.29k till I stumbled upon rockbox |
| 16:51:07 | DCJoeDog | which I still switch back to for vid playback |
| 16:51:07 | Mongey| | yeah cool, theres a Misticriver chat on zuh.net if you have any i-river questions |
| 16:51:28 | DCJoeDog | Yeah, I found it on Mysticriver forum, rockbox that is |
| 16:51:34 | DCJoeDog | thanks for the help |
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| 16:52:22 | Mongey| | yeah but if you have any n00b questions ask them on the misticriver chatroom |
| 16:52:48 | markun | Mongey|: thanks :) |
| 16:53:12 | Mongey| | huh? |
| 16:53:29 | markun | For redirecting n00b questions to them :) |
| 16:53:34 | Mongey| | yep |
| 16:53:53 | Mongey| | more importamt stuff for here |
| 16:53:53 | DCJoeDog | ugh, I hate the word n00b when it's spelled that way, but to each their own |
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| 16:54:20 | Mongey| | i just come here when nobodys on misticriver, lol |
| 16:54:34 | Mongey| | most of my questions are non-rb related |
| 16:55:05 | Mongey| | Anyone have a h1x0? |
| 16:55:35 | Mongey| | (thats active) |
| 16:55:49 | markun | I have |
| 16:56:17 | markun | why? |
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| 16:58:12 | Mongey| | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33811 |
| 16:58:25 | Mongey| | i cant answer anything for him |
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| 17:00:09 | markun | Mongey|: maybe a broken hdd? |
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| 17:01:08 | Mongey| | yeah thatswhat i thought |
| 17:01:42 | markun | don't know how far the iriver firmware gets without a hdd. |
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| 17:16:05 | AciD | what's the difference between iRiver H340 and H340SE ? I can't info on google |
| 17:17:37 | ratpack91 | se comes with a remote, a different case and an external battery pack |
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| 17:22:20 | AciD | thx |
| 17:30:44 | PaulJ | the "se"-version comes WITHOUT a remote and batterypack |
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| 17:32:02 | ratpack91 | oh yeah. |
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| 20:04:13 | Mmmm | So amiconn, re:metronome.c how do I decode a sound as you said in the forum into that list of numbers? |
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| 20:18:57 | markun | Mmmm: decode the mp3 frame to raw 16-bit samples I guess. |
| 20:20:05 | Mmmm | Heh heh.. how do you actually do that? can you do it with a wav file too ? |
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| 20:45:52 | lostlogicx | gah, why does a signed integer division cause a jbsr !? |
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| 21:02:28 | Coldtoast | howdy |
| 21:02:45 | Coldtoast | I found a bug in rockbox for the h100 |
| 21:03:33 | Coldtoast | I have a dir with about 220 mp3s in it and if I scroll the file list while I'm playing a track, the audio drops out fo a sec |
| 21:03:48 | Coldtoast | tested and it's definitely the scrolling that causes it |
| 21:04:17 | Coldtoast | seems scrolling kicks the cpu up |
| 21:07:46 | ratpack91 | a known bug |
| 21:08:02 | Coldtoast | hmm. ok |
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| 21:08:27 | Lear | Tried adding a few yields() at strategic places? |
| 21:08:37 | nathanh_ | it doesnt kick the cpu up, thats the problem |
| 21:08:43 | nathanh_ | cpu stays at 45mhz the whole time |
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| 21:09:02 | Coldtoast | ah. so scrolling swallows what little cpu there is |
| 21:09:19 | nathanh_ | well, sort of, the buffer refill thread will occasionally do a cpu_burst |
| 21:09:22 | Lear | But the buffering code is responsible for upping the CPU once the audio buffer gets low. |
| 21:09:42 | Coldtoast | ok |
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| 21:11:17 | Coldtoast | well, 7am means I should go to bed |
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| 21:23:41 | lostlogicx | w00t, I think I can asm optimize render_line and render_point in floor1.c with the eMAC unit. |
| 21:25:19 | Lear | How? |
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| 22:04:44 | petur | LinusN: how are you time-wise? |
| 22:06:26 | LinusN | fine i guess ;-) |
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| 22:22:44 | lostlogicx | Lear: ok, I lied −− only on render_point −− eek, but I think I introduced some error, at least that's what the audio artifacts are telling me :( |
| 22:23:30 | Lear | still fail to see where the mac would help... :) |
| 22:23:59 | lostlogicx | Lear: well I could be wrong about it, but I'm working on the math. |
| 22:24:47 | miner49er | Is there someone with cvs access here? |
| 22:24:55 | lostlogicx | y0+((y1-y0)*(x-x0))/(x1-x0) is render_point −− if it's foiled out, the MAC can help... but for some reason doing it that way caused artifacts. |
| 22:25:09 | miner49er | read/write, that is..! |
| 22:26:03 | mirak | is their somekind of translation channel ? |
| 22:26:16 | _FireFly_ | their ?? |
| 22:26:19 | mirak | it would be cool, I have some things I don't understand on the web n english :) |
| 22:26:22 | mirak | there |
| 22:26:25 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 22:26:36 | mirak | Don't pick your blemishes, because you'll get crazy scars on your chin like me. |
| 22:26:42 | mirak | what means blemishes |
| 22:26:47 | mirak | and chin |
| 22:26:48 | mirak | ? |
| 22:26:52 | lostlogicx | Lear: do you know what the __divsi3 function does, and why to use it over divs.l? |
| 22:26:57 | mirak | in the above sentence :) |
| 22:28:20 | lostlogicx | mirak: chin is above neck, below mouth, blemish is zit or pimple |
| 22:28:23 | Lear | I don't see that code in render_point... :) |
| 22:28:39 | lostlogicx | Lear: it can be reduced to that |
| 22:28:51 | mirak | lostlogic: zit or pimple ? is that colors ? |
| 22:28:57 | _FireFly_ | no |
| 22:29:28 | Lear | Can't say I know what divsi3 does, in detail, no... |
| 22:29:33 | mirak | hmm what's that ? |
| 22:30:08 | _FireFly_ | mirak: zit are litte red points in your face |
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| 22:32:30 | Lear | Looks like normal div, afaict... |
| 22:32:44 | mirak | _FireFly_: acnea |
| 22:33:03 | lostlogicx | Lear: where'd you find it defined? |
| 22:33:19 | _FireFly_ | mirak: yepp acne |
| 22:33:45 | memmem | __divsi3 is one of the functions GCC maps the / operator to. |
| 22:33:55 | Lear | in udivmodsi4.c, through divmod.c |
| 22:34:00 | lostlogicx | Lear: ty |
| 22:35:28 | Lear | And someone tried to replace udivmodsi4 with the div instruction back in 2002... |
| 22:35:38 | lostlogicx | and it broke things? |
| 22:37:04 | Lear | Doesn't seem like it, the guy had problems building it first, but looks like he found the reason. That's all the thread I found said... |
| 22:37:28 | lostlogicx | gotcha. hmm... wish I knew what's causing these artifacts then :( |
| 22:44:25 | LinusN | Bger: u there? |
| 22:44:37 | memmem | signed vs. unsigned? (__divsi3 is the signed version.) |
| 22:46:41 | lostlogicx | memmem: I'm using divs.l |
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| 23:18:37 | AciD | is it normal that you can only find iriver h10 mp3 players in europe, instead of h3x0 ? :o |
| 23:19:25 | Bagder | no |
| 23:21:23 | LinusN | well, i believe it is normal to not find any h300's in the shops |
| 23:21:38 | Bagder | there are many that claim they still have them |
| 23:22:04 | Bagder | pricerunner lists at least 4 claiming h340 |
| 23:22:13 | Bagder | in Sweden alone |
| 23:22:39 | Bagder | possibly they can actually deliver |
| 23:22:43 | Bagder | can't |
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| 23:34:55 | LinusN | the sdl sim looks promising |
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| 23:35:20 | Bagder | you tried it? |
| 23:36:08 | amiconn | LinusN: Hmm, do I remember correctly that you got an IGP-100? |
| 23:36:20 | LinusN | no i declined the offer |
| 23:36:36 | LinusN | too busy |
| 23:36:48 | amiconn | There's one on eBay germany atm, but with a defective hard disk |
| 23:36:51 | mirak | anyone gave a glance at the xvid plugin and check for some odd stuff or things I should have done in another way ? |
| 23:37:10 | LinusN | amiconn: how many igp's are there out there? |
| 23:37:18 | amiconn | I have no idea |
| 23:37:30 | amiconn | Probably less than H1x0 and H3x0 |
| 23:37:30 | LinusN | i just want to know if it's worth the effort |
| 23:37:33 | linuxstb | mirak: I looked at it, and compiled it for the ipod. It needed a little work before it would compile. |
| 23:37:47 | linuxstb | But it seemed to decode at about 2fps |
| 23:37:51 | mirak | linuxstb: oh nice. you have a ipod video ? |
| 23:38:00 | mirak | linuxstb: yes that was that |
| 23:38:05 | mirak | 2 fps |
| 23:38:13 | linuxstb | I have access to two ipods now - a "Color" and a "Video". |
| 23:38:13 | amiconn | LinusN: I expect the hardware to be very similar to H1x0, except form factor and hard disk size |
| 23:38:21 | mirak | 2 fps if you remove the saving to disk of the images |
| 23:38:47 | linuxstb | But on the ipod, it crashed after frame #7 |
| 23:38:57 | mirak | linuxstb: maybe you could attach the modified code to the tracker |
| 23:39:15 | linuxstb | I have no special rights on the tracker. |
| 23:39:19 | mirak | linuxstb: you extended the PLUGIN_RAM or managed to strip it down ? |
| 23:39:43 | LinusN | amiconn: i guess so too |
| 23:39:47 | mirak | linuxstb: you can't attach things on my thread ? |
| 23:39:53 | linuxstb | I only briefly looked at it. I just set the PLUGIN_RAM to what you suggested. |
| 23:40:03 | linuxstb | mirak: No, I don't think I can. |
| 23:40:15 | mirak | linuxstb: you are registered I guess |
| 23:40:28 | amiconn | LinusN: Perhaps this IGP-100 doesn't go for much, since it has a defective hdd. Could be interesting. |
| 23:40:32 | mirak | don't know if I can give you rights |
| 23:40:54 | LinusN | amiconn: sure, why not? |
| 23:41:10 | mirak | linuxstb: maybe you can create a new thread and put your file in it. |
| 23:42:00 | linuxstb | mirak: I may do. But as I said, I only looked briefly at it. I would like to spend more time on it though. |
| 23:42:03 | mirak | linuxstb: the next step is to adapt the x86 assembly parts to coldfire or arm. I removed this files, but they are in xvidcore sources. We can know what it's worse optimising |
| 23:42:13 | mirak | linuxstb: ok |
| 23:42:55 | linuxstb | I would say the code need more cleaning first - fixing all the compiler warnings and deleting any encoder-related routines. |
| 23:43:29 | mirak | ffmpeg have the advantage to already have arm asm optimisations for dct stuffs. maybe it can be reused, or maybe some dct code of the other codec can be reused as well |
| 23:44:08 | mirak | linuxstb: I tried to fix some warnings, but I lack of C skills for most of them |
| 23:44:14 | linuxstb | Well, xvid is an important codec, so I think it's worth implementing both xvidcore and the ffmpeg version in order to compare them. |
| 23:44:47 | mirak | one thing I don't understand is that I don't have this warnings when doing a make for x86 |
| 23:45:00 | mirak | maybe gcc is compiled with different options |
| 23:45:22 | linuxstb | That's possibly because you are using standard libraries and not rockbox. |
| 23:45:38 | Bagder | and different gcc versions |
| 23:45:44 | linuxstb | Or are you talking about the sim? |
| 23:46:04 | mirak | linuxstb: markun says he is willing to do it for ffmpeg. actually I am done with implementing a codec. at least for a momement. However I am ok to work on xvid |
| 23:46:32 | LinusN | Bger: still not there? |
| 23:46:34 | mirak | linuxstb: no about H300. Actually I can't build the simulator it fails on lcd-h300.c |
| 23:47:03 | mirak | well it fails on lcd emulation I mean |
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| 23:47:11 | Bagder | x11? |
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| 23:48:39 | amiconn | mirak: Try the Win32 sim, it works |
| 23:49:08 | amiconn | You can do that on linux too, the sim is working under wine |
| 23:49:15 | mirak | amiconn: but I can't build it |
| 23:49:21 | Jungti1234 | why? |
| 23:49:21 | Bagder | quite a painful job |
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| 23:49:28 | amiconn | mirak: What distro? |
| 23:49:32 | mirak | amiconn: ubuntu |
| 23:49:44 | amiconn | If it's debian, there is a mingw crosscompiler package... |
| 23:49:53 | linuxstb | "apt-get install mingw32" |
| 23:49:57 | mirak | ok |
| 23:50:09 | mirak | apt-get is bad, prefer aptitude install |
| 23:50:12 | Bagder | or better yet, try the sdl sim |
| 23:50:21 | Bagder | apt-get is king |
| 23:50:46 | mirak | the advantage of aptitude is that when you remove a packet, it removes the unusused dependencies |
| 23:50:50 | mirak | that's why I use it |
| 23:51:00 | mirak | I don't use the aptitude UI though |
| 23:51:03 | LinusN | Paprica: u there? |
| 23:51:05 | mirak | it's crap |
| 23:51:16 | linuxstb | mirak: Ok, then use aptitude :) |
| 23:51:37 | nathanh | i also recommend the sdl sim :-) |
| 23:51:55 | LinusN | nathanh: did you see my comments? |
| 23:51:56 | mirak | linuxstb: well for me it was a revelation to know that it could care of unused dependencies :) |
| 23:51:59 | Paprica | yep |
| 23:52:02 | Bagder | I noticed Linusn's comments on it |
| 23:52:04 | nathanh | linusn: no |
| 23:52:16 | amiconn | Wah, really few H3x0s on eBay, and they tend to go higher than new ones :( I hope this will get better after xmas |
| 23:52:33 | Paprica | LinusN: ? |
| 23:52:55 | LinusN | Paprica: you're Ben, right? |
| 23:53:06 | linuxstb | amiconn: Are you looking to buy a new DAP? |
| 23:53:34 | Paprica | right =] |
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| 23:53:45 | LinusN | i'm about to commit your solitaire patch |
| 23:53:51 | * | amiconn wants to asm optimise the lcd driver, and a better (button-wise) iriver than the H1x0 |
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| 23:54:02 | Paprica | OK =] |
| 23:54:29 | LinusN | if it's ok with you |
| 23:54:59 | Bagder | the h3x0 is slightly better button wise, imho |
| 23:55:07 | Bagder | and lcd |
| 23:55:14 | Bagder | the rest is the opposite |
| 23:55:21 | nathanh | linusn: i see your comments, i'll correct those problems tonight and post a new patch |
| 23:55:24 | Paprica | its ok for me |
| 23:55:25 | amiconn | What rest? |
| 23:55:25 | Paprica | =\ |
| 23:55:34 | LinusN | nathanh: great! |
| 23:55:43 | Bagder | amiconn: the plastic feeling, the size |
| 23:55:55 | Bagder | the switching off the lcd all the time |
| 23:56:00 | LinusN | the h300 feels bulky |
| 23:56:09 | amiconn | Bagder: Imho the H3x0 is *much* better button wise |
| 23:56:16 | Bagder | amiconn: you tried any? |
| 23:56:26 | amiconn | Yes, in a shop |
| 23:56:28 | mirak | Bagder: I don't like the directional pad of the h300, I must use my nails to push it |
| 23:56:32 | * | linuxstb has fallen in love with the 30GB video ipod. |
| 23:56:44 | nathanh | i have a question about colour wps, i've been thinking about this and i think i have a "quick fix" that will do most of what people want |
| 23:56:55 | nathanh | whats the possibility of getting colour glyphs into the font rendering code? |
| 23:57:03 | amiconn | The LCD is color, which is worse usage-wise, but technically interesting |
| 23:57:32 | Bagder | nathanh: everything is possible, but you'd need some interesting hack or a new font format |
| 23:57:41 | mirak | amiconn: do you think it's really worth to rescale the colors instead of bit cutting ? |
| 23:57:47 | LinusN | the h300 lcd is very good imho, crystal clear |
| 23:57:47 | nathanh | i have a semi-working patch to load and display colour bitmaps (%xd) but the fonts are the killer |
| 23:58:00 | mirak | amiconn: I mean performance wise I heard that coldfire sucks with floats |
| 23:58:13 | Bagder | mirak: it isn't floats |
| 23:58:25 | LinusN | mirak: any cpu without fpu sucks with floats |
| 23:58:25 | amiconn | mirak: Huh? What does the pixel value scaling have to do with floats?? |
| 23:58:30 | mirak | LinusN: yes, I am always amased when watching a video or images |
| 23:58:34 | linuxstb | And it's also mostly done at compile-time |
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