| 00:01:15 | | Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 00:01:43 | Mongey| | hi |
| 00:03:08 | | Join jaebird [0] (n=jaebird@03-210.netblk-38-96-210.coolaccess.net) |
| 00:03:12 | Mongey| | was wondering if this plugin could be optimised for the h300 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=901816 |
| 00:06:32 | Jungti1234 | Why may not I become connection to sourceforge? |
| 00:08:23 | | Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") |
| 00:14:43 | Jungti1234 | oh alarm? |
| 00:14:56 | Mongey| | what? |
| 00:15:03 | preglow | linuxstb_: so, you got some sleep code coming up, or? |
| 00:16:34 | mirak | the plugin is now 450ko and fit with the standart plugin ram size preglow |
| 00:16:41 | preglow | good |
| 00:17:05 | mirak | maybe having it display something would attract some people to improve it |
| 00:17:12 | preglow | oh yes |
| 00:17:14 | preglow | that's for sure |
| 00:18:19 | Mongey| | so...... can it be done |
| 00:19:01 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Yep, just about to commit now. It's just a simple write to one register in the pcf50605. |
| 00:19:15 | preglow | linuxstb_: btw, am i the only one getting the odd glitch with the clichwheel |
| 00:19:16 | preglow | ? |
| 00:19:32 | preglow | sometimes when i scroll, the cursor will skip back one notch |
| 00:19:37 | preglow | before continuing as usual |
| 00:19:38 | linuxstb_ | Yes, I've seen that. |
| 00:19:42 | preglow | hmm, ok |
| 00:19:45 | preglow | i wonder why that is |
| 00:19:48 | | Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") |
| 00:19:57 | preglow | i did remove some code from the ipl driver that i just didn't see the need for |
| 00:20:09 | nathanh | preglow: how close is the ipod nano port... you got reliable audio? |
| 00:20:18 | preglow | nathanh: no, but audio |
| 00:20:27 | preglow | linuxstb_: i see it now, it's a crossover issue at the top of the wheel |
| 00:20:44 | preglow | bah, i'm too stupid |
| 00:21:47 | petur | and another patch: H300 brightness - see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1387627&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 00:22:08 | preglow | nathanh: linuxstb has hacked in preliminary audio |
| 00:22:15 | linuxstb_ | We don't seem to have a button combination mapped to shutdown though. Guess I need to enable the HAVE_SW_POWEROFF define. |
| 00:22:16 | preglow | nathanh: so we get skippy audio |
| 00:24:03 | mirak | crap I think I removed some usefull things |
| 00:24:04 | mirak | lol |
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| 00:28:56 | lostlogicx | My latest Tremor optimizations: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1387611&group_id=44306&atid=439120 If anyone wants to test boost levels between CVS and that patch, it'd be helpful to verify that profiling results match real world results. |
| 00:30:13 | Mongey| | lostlogicx |
| 00:30:16 | Moos | probably Lear |
| 00:30:49 | Mongey| | lostlogicx;would you be able to alter that plugin |
| 00:32:35 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Just committed. |
| 00:33:10 | preglow | ogood |
| 00:33:15 | preglow | i'll do a fix for the wheel problem now |
| 00:33:17 | preglow | then i've got to go |
| 00:33:23 | | Join bazz [0] (n=nick@mail.uwcaw.uwc.org) |
| 00:34:24 | linuxstb_ | It's nice to finally be able to switch the ipod off. |
| 00:34:41 | bazz | so, i'd like to check in/submit what i have of the sdl sim. it works on linux and mostly on windows, although there needs to be some hackery to configure and the makefiles to make it build all the way on windows. it doesn't step on the win32 or x11 sim, so no functionality is lost. how would/should i go about doing this? |
| 00:35:00 | linuxstb_ | Submit a patch to the patch tracker. |
| 00:35:24 | petur | OT: any tip for capturing and converting a RealAudio stream under windows? |
| 00:35:27 | bazz | linuxstb_: does that allow for all the new files i need to add? |
| 00:35:33 | | Quit RotAtoR (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:36:49 | linuxstb_ | Yes, patches can include complete new files. I think you need the -N option to diff |
| 00:37:13 | bazz | linuxstb_: nod, i'll figure it all out |
| 00:37:19 | linuxstb_ | I'm not an expert, but I'm sure someone here can help with the necessary diff command if you have problems. |
| 00:37:57 | linuxstb_ | So we'll have three sims with your patch? X11, win32 and sdl? |
| 00:38:04 | bazz | linuxstb_: yes |
| 00:39:18 | nathanh | err |
| 00:39:24 | nathanh | ive already got an sdl sim patch up on sourceforge |
| 00:39:45 | preglow | then now we've got two! |
| 00:40:10 | bazz | nathanh: ohh, no one told me :) does it support all the players and sound and stuff? |
| 00:40:17 | nathanh | not sound, but all the players yes |
| 00:40:29 | | Quit ender` (" Theorem: a cat has nine tails. Proof: No cat has eight tails. A cat has one tail more than no cat. Therefore, a cat has n") |
| 00:40:30 | nathanh | i dont have a soundcard so i wrote the code, but i cant test it, apparently sound didnt work |
| 00:41:12 | bazz | hrmm, okay, i wonder if it's worth me sumbitting the patch then |
| 00:41:16 | nathanh | it sure is |
| 00:41:22 | preglow | do so |
| 00:41:24 | nathanh | i'll nick all the best bits of yours, and you'll nick all the best bits of mine |
| 00:42:17 | bazz | okay, so did you just cvs diff for the stuff you changed in existing code and then zip up all the new files? |
| 00:42:36 | nathanh | originally yes, but then i used "cvs diff -u" followed by "diff -uN >>" |
| 00:42:41 | nathanh | to get a single patch file |
| 00:42:42 | | Quit perplexity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:43:11 | nathanh | i would like to see how you handled the surface zooming problem |
| 00:43:15 | nathanh | my solution is horribly inefficient |
| 00:43:38 | bazz | mine doesn't do surface zooming :( |
| 00:43:56 | nathanh | well thats ok, because my zooming is awfully slow |
| 00:44:06 | nathanh | i think we need to butt heads and work out how to do it better |
| 00:44:36 | bazz | mine is like the windows sim in that is draws the image of the player, so zooming is tricky |
| 00:44:46 | nathanh | ooo, i dont have the images of the players |
| 00:44:52 | nathanh | but i wanted that feature |
| 00:45:09 | nathanh | i thought one way to do it would be to use an offscreen surface which is zoom=1 |
| 00:45:15 | bazz | they are in the win32 sim dir |
| 00:45:22 | nathanh | then use one of the bitmap drawing sdl functions to zoom for us |
| 00:46:01 | bazz | nod, i didn't realize this was a desired feature, i'll start thinking about it |
| 00:46:21 | * | nathanh keen to see bazz's patch :-) |
| 00:46:36 | bazz | it'll be submitted soon |
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| 00:50:17 | preglow | linuxstb_: so how do i switch it off now? |
| 00:50:44 | linuxstb_ | You can't yet. But the idle poweroff works. |
| 00:50:49 | preglow | okiedoke |
| 00:51:03 | linuxstb_ | I'm just testing it now on the 5g..... |
| 00:51:07 | preglow | how does retailos go to sleep, again? |
| 00:51:10 | mirak | nathanh: what's that zoom thing ? |
| 00:51:17 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Long press on play |
| 00:51:30 | nathanh | mirak: ./rockboxui −−zoom 3 |
| 00:51:51 | linuxstb_ | I've mapped that to stop in the wps, so I'm thinking the same combination for poweroff |
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| 00:52:12 | mirak | nathanh: what do you use to zoom ? |
| 00:52:21 | dropandho | sup all! |
| 00:52:34 | nathanh | mirak: what do you mean |
| 00:52:41 | mirak | nathanh: the algorithm |
| 00:52:51 | mirak | the UI is borken on my computer |
| 00:52:56 | nathanh | read the patch :-) |
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| 00:53:50 | | Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) |
| 00:56:52 | bazz | nathanh: so, you checked out the cvs code somewhere and then diff -uN mycodedir cvscodedir? |
| 00:57:20 | nathanh | bazz: thats right |
| 00:58:39 | bazz | if you cvs diff and then diff -uN doesn't that create entries twice for changed existing files? |
| 00:59:48 | nathanh | my second diff was only on uisimulator/sdl |
| 00:59:58 | bazz | nathanh: clever :) |
| 00:59:58 | nathanh | because i didnt really have a full cvs checkout |
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| 01:01:04 | linuxstb_ | Mmm. Seems the ipod is the only target with software power-off, but no OFF button... |
| 01:01:10 | | Part LinusN |
| 01:01:44 | preglow | linuxstb_: testing it out now |
| 01:02:05 | linuxstb_ | I'm relieved to report it works fine on the 5g as well. |
| 01:02:21 | preglow | yeah, saw |
| 01:02:41 | preglow | how do you open these bloody buggers anyway? |
| 01:02:45 | preglow | there are no screws, no nothing |
| 01:02:47 | nathanh | hammer |
| 01:02:54 | nathanh | you can fix everything with a hammer |
| 01:03:02 | preglow | i can destroy anything with one |
| 01:03:13 | linuxstb_ | Guitar picks do the job, or so I've read. |
| 01:03:21 | preglow | cool |
| 01:03:22 | * | preglow tries |
| 01:04:12 | preglow | seems jazz 3 is a bit too thich, heh |
| 01:04:13 | preglow | thick |
| 01:04:58 | preglow | linuxstb_: poweroff works, lcd dims gradully over about thirty secs |
| 01:05:11 | preglow | linuxstb_: where it first gets corrupted, just like if i had reset it |
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| 01:06:23 | linuxstb_ | But does it power back on? |
| 01:07:33 | preglow | yeah |
| 01:07:35 | preglow | apple logo and all |
| 01:07:46 | preglow | which reminds me, that doesn't happen for retailos, does it? |
| 01:08:15 | linuxstb_ | Not immediately. It goes into a "light sleep" first, and then a deeper sleep after a long time in light sleep. |
| 01:08:23 | preglow | ahhh, alright |
| 01:08:33 | preglow | which resets it completely, just like this, yes? |
| 01:08:38 | linuxstb_ | Yes. |
| 01:09:04 | linuxstb_ | The light sleep probably just powers off the peripherals and slows the CPU down to the minimum. |
| 01:09:18 | preglow | hohoh |
| 01:09:29 | preglow | guess who's going to entertain himself with bejeweled during the flight |
| 01:09:57 | linuxstb_ | Sorry I couldn't give you music to go with your bejeweled... |
| 01:10:06 | preglow | i'll be alright |
| 01:10:38 | preglow | with some luck, i might even survive the ordeal |
| 01:11:50 | preglow | i wish i knew what the cache issue was |
| 01:12:08 | linuxstb_ | When you disconnect your ipod from Windows, does it reboot? |
| 01:12:25 | linuxstb_ | In Linux, it stays in disk mode. |
| 01:12:31 | preglow | no, doesn't |
| 01:12:41 | preglow | it stays in disk mode, unless i rewrote the boot part |
| 01:13:07 | linuxstb_ | Yep, I read someone say on #ipl that it will reboot if you write to the first 32MB of the disk. |
| 01:14:02 | preglow | man, these things really do scratch a bit too easily for my tastes |
| 01:14:13 | preglow | i've been careful with the bugger, and the backlight doesn't look like shit |
| 01:14:17 | preglow | backplate |
| 01:15:19 | * | petur tries to find a scratch on his H340 |
| 01:15:48 | preglow | my h120 looks realy nice |
| 01:15:50 | preglow | really |
| 01:18:39 | | Part PaulJ |
| 01:20:28 | preglow | but i've got to start thinking about sleep |
| 01:20:56 | nathanh | my h340 is made out of scratchidium, the most scratchable element in the universe |
| 01:21:06 | nathanh | i reckon the only holding it together is the crisscross pattern of scratches |
| 01:21:27 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Any objections to a long press on play for the power-off? |
| 01:21:35 | preglow | linuxstb_: none |
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| 01:23:15 | preglow | but ok |
| 01:23:19 | Rob- | Hi |
| 01:23:19 | preglow | i've gotta go |
| 01:23:25 | preglow | bye all |
| 01:23:36 | linuxstb_ | bye. |
| 01:23:49 | Rob- | How far off is recording from line-in / external mic on the h340? |
| 01:24:52 | nathanh | i heard it was working already ?! |
| 01:24:52 | petur | is available |
| 01:28:41 | | Quit Moos ("Rockbox?... The best ;)") |
| 01:29:28 | petur | WTF? did a rebuild after CVS update and recording no longer works - could be my patch :( - testing CVS build now |
| 01:29:47 | NicoFR | is it normal the peak meter doesn't seem to work anymore in recording mode on h300 ? |
| 01:30:30 | petur | no - I'm seeing the same thing |
| 01:31:23 | NicoFR | and also it crashes when I stop a recording |
| 01:31:46 | petur | one moment, testing bleeding-edge build to rule out my stuff |
| 01:33:00 | petur | AAARGH... something has broken recording :( |
| 01:33:14 | petur | maybe it's the LCD DMA thing? |
| 01:33:51 | NicoFR | or the fix that enabled recording from line in ? |
| 01:34:18 | petur | nah, that just toggles the mux pin |
| 01:34:36 | petur | ie selects the correct analog input |
| 01:34:50 | petur | internal mic doesn't work as well |
| 01:35:01 | NicoFR | ok |
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| 01:37:05 | Rob- | I'm currently using daily 20051220. I can record with the internal mic, but not line in. |
| 01:37:47 | petur | Linus fixed that on that date in the evening |
| 01:38:49 | petur | I'm downloading the previous LCD driver to check if that caused it... |
| 01:40:42 | dropandho | "it wasn't me" |
| 01:40:42 | dropandho | ! |
| 01:40:51 | petur | ...building... |
| 01:43:21 | petur | yep that's it |
| 01:43:34 | petur | works just fine with the old LCD driver |
| 01:46:13 | dropandho | this is 320 or 120/140? |
| 01:46:32 | petur | H3xx |
| 01:46:48 | petur | H1xx should be fine |
| 01:46:54 | NicoFR | how come the LCD driver can brake recording ? |
| 01:47:02 | NicoFR | break* |
| 01:47:33 | petur | because it now does DMA, and so does the recording... |
| 01:47:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:48:14 | petur | have sent it on the dev mailing list, I hope Linus picks it up soon |
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| 01:49:05 | | Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 01:49:48 | NicoFR | salut mirak |
| 01:50:07 | petur | got to get some sleep |
| 01:50:10 | petur | goodnight |
| 01:50:21 | NicoFR | good night |
| 01:50:25 | | Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") |
| 01:50:39 | | Join San [0] (n=test@194.125.99.20) |
| 01:52:06 | NicoFR | mirak c'est toi "ilaglisser" sur le forum HFR ? |
| 01:53:01 | mirak | NicoFR: shut |
| 01:53:26 | NicoFR | pourquoi ? |
| 01:53:43 | mirak | t'es moderateur sur HFR ? |
| 01:53:49 | NicoFR | non |
| 01:54:01 | mirak | je me suis fait ban d'un sous forum |
| 01:54:12 | NicoFR | lol |
| 01:54:41 | mirak | enfin sur un topic je me suis pris le choux avec un modo |
| 01:54:50 | mirak | enfin c'etait en pv plutot |
| 01:54:52 | mirak | ^^ |
| 01:55:09 | mirak | NicoFR: pkoi ? |
| 01:55:24 | NicoFR | j'ai vu que tu parlais de ton plugin qui "lit" les XviD |
| 01:56:08 | mirak | ouais |
| 01:56:18 | mirak | j'ai reussit a le reduite |
| 01:56:21 | mirak | reduire |
| 01:56:38 | mirak | mais y a des structures de donées plutot grosses defineies en static |
| 01:56:49 | NicoFR | cŕd il lit plus vite ? |
| 01:56:50 | mirak | genre 250ko pour un tableau ça fait un peu big ! |
| 01:56:56 | mirak | non du tout |
| 01:56:56 | NicoFR | ah oui |
| 01:57:03 | mirak | c'est pour le faire tenir dans rockbox |
| 01:57:06 | mirak | là ça tient |
| 01:57:08 | mirak | just |
| 01:57:25 | mirak | c'est pas pres d'aller plus vite je pense |
| 01:57:32 | mirak | il faudrait de l'assembleur |
| 01:57:46 | NicoFR | ok |
| 01:57:55 | mirak | si ça te tente ... |
| 01:58:32 | NicoFR | pas trop non... déjŕ que je suis pas ŕ l'aise en C... |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:32 | mirak | je pense pas qu'il puisse faire mieux que ce qu'on fait iriver ce plugin |
| 02:00:39 | mirak | c'est des malades |
| 02:00:49 | mirak | lĂ c'est 2fps |
| 02:00:52 | mirak | laisse beton |
| 02:00:54 | mirak | lol |
| 02:01:04 | NicoFR | ^^ |
| 02:01:07 | mirak | je voulais voir bah on est fixé maintenant |
| 02:01:32 | mirak | l'idée d'attendre 25fps est vraiment tres éloignée |
| 02:01:35 | mirak | atteindre |
| 02:01:58 | mirak | irréaliste en fait |
| 02:01:59 | NicoFR | ton plugin il affiche les images décodées ŕ l'écran ? |
| 02:02:10 | mirak | non que dalle |
| 02:02:16 | mirak | il peut sauver en fichier |
| 02:02:35 | mirak | ça serait pas dur a faire mais 2fps c'est vraiment pas interessant |
| 02:02:38 | dropandho | what happened here?! |
| 02:03:07 | NicoFR | je me demandais s'il était pas ralenti par le driver LCD qui est encore lent |
| 02:03:13 | mirak | enfin y a aucune optimisation en mĂŞme temps |
| 02:03:18 | mirak | pas d'iram |
| 02:03:23 | mirak | pas d'assembleur |
| 02:03:40 | mirak | mais bon la vidéo fait juste 270x176 en plus |
| 02:03:49 | lostlogic | dropandho: french happened, apparently :-\ |
| 02:04:07 | mirak | I will try to put the image on screen to attract some people |
| 02:04:07 | dropandho | oui oui! |
| 02:04:54 | mirak | it's him who started to speak french −−-> dropandho . That's not my fault |
| 02:04:56 | NicoFR | we were talking about his xvid decoder |
| 02:05:00 | mirak | hem NicoFR |
| 02:05:05 | NicoFR | sorry about that |
| 02:05:10 | mirak | :D |
| 02:05:14 | mirak | ;D |
| 02:06:49 | NicoFR | maybe others who know ASM will be intersested and will look into it |
| 02:07:04 | NicoFR | and maybe one day it'll reach 10 fps :D |
| 02:07:10 | dropandho | mirak- it's ok...i was being dramatic! |
| 02:07:21 | dropandho | so what needs to be looked into? i know someone who knows ASM |
| 02:07:22 | dropandho | hehe |
| 02:07:46 | mirak | well first, get xvidcode |
| 02:07:49 | * | lostlogic knows asm, but is not planning to leave Tremor-land for the moment ;) |
| 02:07:49 | NicoFR | the xvid decoder needs optimisation |
| 02:07:51 | NicoFR | a lot |
| 02:07:52 | mirak | xvidcore source |
| 02:08:22 | mirak | you will see where are localised the asm optimisation for x86 |
| 02:08:32 | NicoFR | btw what is tremor exactly ? |
| 02:08:38 | NicoFR | a decoder ? |
| 02:08:38 | mirak | that's probably where we should start to convert to coldfire |
| 02:08:42 | mirak | NicoFR: vorbis |
| 02:08:47 | NicoFR | ok |
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| 02:09:23 | dropandho | i saw we got a 2-3 % cpu gain |
| 02:09:31 | mirak | ? |
| 02:09:32 | dropandho | so that means more batt life on ogg- ya? |
| 02:10:08 | NicoFR | yes |
| 02:10:21 | dropandho | wooo |
| 02:10:38 | dropandho | we dont have any complete batt stats these days- do we? |
| 02:10:51 | dropandho | like stuff comparing running it with the remote and all that |
| 02:11:19 | NicoFR | I don't think so |
| 02:11:33 | NicoFR | and is anyone working on a color JPEG viewer ? |
| 02:13:48 | dropandho | not that i know of |
| 02:14:05 | Mongey| | for what? |
| 02:14:22 | dropandho | we really should update the todo page |
| 02:14:38 | dropandho | cause i am pretty fuzzy as to why we are waiting on an offical iriver release |
| 02:14:47 | lostlogic | we actually need a runtime battery stat collector to recreate battery runtime estimates. |
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| 02:15:49 | bazz | nathanh: request id 1387679 is my patch |
| 02:16:34 | NicoFR | oh and what is sdl ? |
| 02:16:46 | Mongey| | will someone edit a plugin? the alarm one that linked earlier |
| 02:17:40 | Mongey| | ? please |
| 02:17:50 | bazz | NicoFR: http://www.libsdl.org |
| 02:18:25 | NicoFR | thanks |
| 02:18:38 | bazz | np |
| 02:18:52 | Mongey| | :( anyone? |
| 02:18:54 | dropandho | lostlogic is that a known need or is someone workin on that? |
| 02:19:03 | NicoFR | time to sleep |
| 02:19:05 | NicoFR | good night |
| 02:19:18 | | Quit NicoFR () |
| 02:19:18 | dropandho | i think it would be a great benchmark so we can see if any work people do helps or hinders the bat life |
| 02:19:33 | dropandho | and can offer a nice comparison to iriver |
| 02:20:29 | lostlogic | dropandho: it's a known feature of the old firmware that we don't have... don't think it's something epople are working on though. |
| 02:20:49 | dropandho | bummer |
| 02:21:19 | dropandho | i feel like we really need someone to get in and update- http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverStatus |
| 02:21:26 | dropandho | the release roadmap |
| 02:21:36 | dropandho | so these things are out on the table |
| 02:21:49 | lostlogic | you have a wiki account, right? :-P |
| 02:21:52 | linuxstb_ | dropandho: Go ahead :) |
| 02:21:59 | Mongey| | dropandho; for what dap? |
| 02:22:49 | lostlogic | I'm pretty happy though, with my opts and today's patch by Linus for the LCD update speed, I'm down to about 41% boost playong my Q7 oggs |
| 02:22:49 | dropandho | iriver 120/40 in specific |
| 02:23:01 | lostlogic | and 320 and 340! |
| 02:23:03 | dropandho | i can setup a wiki account...i just dont know these low level things |
| 02:23:07 | lostlogic | most of the stuff is common |
| 02:23:32 | dropandho | i am not in the know....so i cant adjust these items |
| 02:24:34 | Mongey| | lostlogic; hear what happened to misticjeff |
| 02:24:41 | lostlogic | Mongey|: no, what happened??? |
| 02:24:52 | Mongey| | #misticriver, his mam |
| 02:25:18 | lostlogic | *nod* sucky. |
| 02:25:33 | Mongey| | =[ |
| 02:26:42 | linuxstb_ | Mongey|: I personally don't think that plugin is the way to go - I would prefer to implement a sleep/wakeup alarm in the core of Rockbox. |
| 02:28:13 | Mongey| | linuxstb_; yes that would be nice in the future but since that plugin is there and could be short term or w/e |
| 02:28:42 | dropandho | how come the website doesn't flaunt how many people have downloaded various build or bootloaders...it might help to build confidence |
| 02:30:10 | mirak | linuxstb_: I am trying to write to lcd, what I do is just : |
| 02:30:11 | mirak | memcpy(rb->lcd_framebuffer,out_buffer,XDIM*YDIM*BPP); |
| 02:30:11 | mirak | rb->lcd_update(); |
| 02:30:25 | mirak | that should work, right ? |
| 02:32:28 | linuxstb_ | No - BPP will be 16 and the number of bytes is XDIM*YDIM*2 |
| 02:32:49 | linuxstb_ | Unless you meant bytes-per-pixel |
| 02:32:56 | linuxstb_ | In which case, yes, it should work. |
| 02:33:04 | linuxstb_ | What's the problem? |
| 02:33:40 | mirak | no BPP is set to two |
| 02:33:46 | mirak | yes |
| 02:33:52 | mirak | I test a bit more |
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| 02:34:58 | linuxstb_ | Have you set xvid_dec_frame.output.csp to XVID_CSP_RGB565 ? |
| 02:35:22 | mirak | my god it works |
| 02:35:26 | mirak | linuxstb_: yes |
| 02:35:49 | mirak | That's awsome |
| 02:35:52 | Mongey| | mirak; what does it do |
| 02:36:01 | mirak | an awsome first step |
| 02:36:03 | mirak | lol |
| 02:36:11 | Mongey| | for videos? |
| 02:36:17 | Mongey| | h3x0? |
| 02:36:18 | mirak | it reads an mpeg4 stream |
| 02:36:25 | mirak | and outputs it on screen |
| 02:36:32 | Mongey| | w00t |
| 02:36:34 | mirak | at the incredible frame rate of 2 |
| 02:36:37 | Mongey| | h3x0 |
| 02:36:40 | mirak | yes |
| 02:36:47 | Mongey| | nice one |
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| 02:45:47 | Bluechip | hello, seems my irc connection still logs into rockbox by default - lol |
| 02:46:15 | Bluechip | I see the ipod guys are in ...how's it going? |
| 02:49:05 | ehntoo | blech. the screen just cracked on my H120 |
| 02:49:06 | linuxstb_ | It's going well. We're quite close to getting audio playback working. |
| 02:49:18 | ehntoo | anybody have some advice? |
| 02:49:50 | Bluechip | linuxstb_: well done guys - what about the interface - or was that just simple code tweaking? |
| 02:49:55 | ehntoo | I just put $140 into it a couple months ago for a new battery and a new harddrive, even |
| 02:50:04 | Mongey| | mirak |
| 02:50:14 | lostlogic | time to install my ebay battery! |
| 02:50:18 | Bluechip | ehntoo: do newmp3technology do iriver parts? |
| 02:50:40 | ehntoo | Bluechip, I have no idea |
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| 02:51:09 | Bluechip | ehntoo: then that is my suggestion - check their site and if they do, buy one and replace the borken one :) |
| 02:51:11 | mirak | Mongey|: ? |
| 02:51:24 | linuxstb_ | Bluechip: If you're talking about the UI, then it was just a matter of adding ipod-specific button mappings everywhere. Plus of course the 16-bit colour LCD code, but amiconn did most of the work on that, and it's shared with the h300. |
| 02:51:58 | Bluechip | linuxstb_: fantastic ...amiconn is a worthy alli in such matters |
| 02:52:02 | ehntoo | curse our ISP's dns servers. It's been taking 10-30 seconds for lookups |
| 02:52:02 | mirak | I am a bit disapointed by the cpu power, I though H300 had more gas than that. My powermac 120mhz can read that xvid stream on linux without a problem ;p |
| 02:52:35 | Mongey| | mirak; so it plays movies |
| 02:52:57 | Mongey| | very slowly but it does, right? |
| 02:53:12 | mirak | yes |
| 02:53:16 | Mongey| | cool |
| 02:54:30 | ehntoo | hrm... no luck for replacement iriver stuff at newmp3technology. |
| 02:54:36 | lostlogic | mirak: so why is the 124mhz coldfire so much slower than your powermac 120? |
| 02:56:18 | mirak | lostlogic: the cache maybe |
| 02:56:30 | mirak | the H300 drive is way faster on the opposite |
| 02:56:44 | Bluechip | pipeline? number of transistors used per op? |
| 02:56:47 | lostlogic | hmph, nod |
| 02:57:11 | mirak | the mac have a 3G scsi hard drice that's doing a hell of a noise, and slow as well |
| 02:57:52 | mirak | the ppc is risc. It's supposed to be as fast a intel 200mhz probably |
| 02:58:18 | mirak | problem also is maybe the slow ram and iram stuff |
| 02:58:35 | mirak | don't know |
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| 05:07:27 | Zak1392 | hey guys |
| 05:07:50 | Mongey| | hi |
| 05:10:04 | Zak1392 | what's everyone up to? |
| 05:10:32 | Mongey| | nvm |
| 05:10:44 | Mongey| | u? |
| 05:11:01 | Zak1392 | not much, just got out of the shower |
| 05:12:28 | Zak1392 | just read about video playback |
| 05:12:32 | Zak1392 | 2 fps |
| 05:12:57 | Mongey| | lol |
| 05:13:36 | Zak1392 | nice ;) |
| 05:13:42 | Zak1392 | to bad mirak isn't here |
| 05:13:48 | Zak1392 | *too |
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| 05:16:52 | grantashman | Hey all. |
| 05:17:20 | Zak1392 | hey |
| 05:17:32 | grantashman | What's happening? |
| 05:18:02 | Zak1392 | not much |
| 05:19:14 | grantashman | I read video is coming along? |
| 05:19:27 | grantashman | Baby steps :) |
| 05:20:13 | Zak1392 | 2fps |
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| 05:23:19 | grantashman | It's a start. |
| 05:23:29 | grantashman | Not that video is the most important feature, still nice though. |
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| 06:26:27 | warewolf | (why is it that certian iRiver firmwares don't support the clock, and some do? *boggles*) |
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| 07:05:58 | Jungti1234 | hi bagawk |
| 07:10:28 | Jungti1234 | new iriver |
| 07:10:29 | Jungti1234 | http://product.iriver.co.kr/detail.asp?cateIdx=2&prdCode=d20 |
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| 07:20:37 | bagawk | Hadaka: why do you change eng-jap? |
| 07:21:34 | Jungti1234 | kk |
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| 07:34:46 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. http://www.kmobile.co.kr/report_img/21883.jpg |
| 07:45:10 | Bger | morning :) |
| 07:51:21 | Jungti1234 | morning, Bger :) |
| 07:51:38 | Bger | ;) |
| 07:52:35 | Jungti1234 | How are you? |
| 07:53:26 | Bger | sleepy :P |
| 07:53:34 | Jungti1234 | hehe.. |
| 07:54:02 | Jungti1234 | I had gone to the Supreme Court today. |
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| 07:54:23 | Bger | wow, why :) |
| 07:54:27 | Bger | perplexity :) morning |
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| 07:55:06 | Jungti1234 | To watch. |
| 07:55:48 | Bger | to watch a suit ? |
| 07:56:37 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 07:57:10 | Jungti1234 | Learned by observation. |
| 07:58:02 | Bger | aah, okay |
| 07:58:11 | Jungti1234 | :) |
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| 08:05:17 | perplexity | O_O morning Bger.. my client appears to have connected unbeknownst to me :) It's always a suprise |
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| 08:40:14 | Membrillo | Hey kids |
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| 08:47:17 | amiconn | mooning |
| 08:48:33 | Membrillo | its 648pm here |
| 08:48:47 | Membrillo | why are you even awake in the morning *yawn* |
| 08:48:55 | amiconn | hehe :) 849am in germany |
| 08:49:04 | Membrillo | gees... you must be eager |
| 08:49:13 | Membrillo | i got up at 130pm today haha |
| 08:49:31 | Membrillo | oh, the joys of being a teenager in school holidays |
| 08:49:58 | Bger | hehe amiconn :) mooning |
| 08:50:31 | Bger | amiconn : regarding iriver remotes |
| 08:51:17 | Bger | did you read my talk yesterday with _FireFly_ ? |
| 08:51:18 | ashridah | Membrillo: just wait till you're unemployed, you'll have all year to get up then then :) |
| 08:51:41 | Membrillo | thats the life for me |
| 08:52:00 | Membrillo | its like looking into a crystal ball into my future |
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| 09:59:49 | Bger | petur ;) |
| 09:59:59 | petur | goodmorning |
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| 10:00:18 | Bger | moin |
| 10:00:33 | petur | finally done my patches ;) |
| 10:00:41 | Bger | ah, really ? :) |
| 10:00:56 | * | petur points to tracker |
| 10:01:23 | Bger | brightness :) |
| 10:01:47 | petur | and pre-recording... |
| 10:02:10 | petur | and also found out that the LCD optimization broke recording on H3xx |
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| 10:02:47 | Bger | what? |
| 10:02:52 | Bger | how's that |
| 10:03:10 | * | petur points to forum, mailing list and IRC log between 1 and 2 am |
| 10:03:10 | Bger | you mean the DMA opt ? |
| 10:03:14 | petur | yep |
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| 10:03:40 | petur | I'm afraid this is for LinusN :( |
| 10:03:47 | Bger | yes... |
| 10:05:35 | Bger | oh, you've commented heavily the code ;) |
| 10:06:49 | petur | did I? |
| 10:07:20 | Bger | it's ok:) |
| 10:07:38 | petur | what patch are you talking about? |
| 10:08:21 | Bger | the only thing i wanted to say is that the last patches have more comments than previous ones |
| 10:09:20 | warewolf | oh right |
| 10:09:29 | warewolf | I just downloaded the lastest h300 rockbox |
| 10:09:39 | warewolf | where the heck is the backlight brightness stuff? |
| 10:09:41 | warewolf | I couldn't find it |
| 10:10:19 | Bger | no, it isn't |
| 10:10:40 | Bger | there |
| 10:10:50 | Bger | it's not in the cvs builds yet |
| 10:11:05 | warewolf | oh |
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| 10:18:18 | Bger | petur : do you set the brightness explicitly somewhere ? |
| 10:18:29 | Bger | apps/settings.c: settings_apply() |
| 10:19:06 | petur | yes, why? |
| 10:19:28 | petur | default setting should be 9 (50%) |
| 10:19:48 | Bger | ah, yes, i saw it :) |
| 10:20:05 | petur | that was missing from the previous patch |
| 10:20:32 | Bger | i had problem with this yesterday, that's why i'm asking you |
| 10:20:50 | petur | I found out it didn't apply it after loading the settings at startup... |
| 10:21:03 | petur | should work now |
| 10:21:41 | Bger | yes, i had the same problem with my work yesterday .. |
| 10:21:49 | petur | :D |
| 10:30:43 | Bger | petur did you edit the .patch file (brightness) manually ? |
| 10:31:02 | petur | could be... not ok? |
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| 10:32:01 | Bger | patch: **** malformed patch at line 129: @@ -538,3 +544,12 @@ |
| 10:32:08 | petur | grrrr |
| 10:32:20 | Bger | yes :( |
| 10:32:38 | Bger | petur : PM |
| 10:35:24 | petur | bbl |
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| 10:56:46 | Jungti1234 | hello |
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| 11:06:36 | Bger | wb, Jungti1234 |
| 11:07:05 | Jungti1234 | IRC is silent. |
| 11:07:25 | * | Bagder drops a needle |
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| 11:24:24 | solexx | *pling* |
| 11:25:41 | solexx | (wow, either that needle has fallen from very far above or gravity in IRC is exceptionally low!) |
| 11:28:54 | amiconn | 5 km |
| 11:29:02 | amiconn | Erm, wrong :) |
| 11:35:56 | warewolf | 5:07 to 5:24, 17 minutes. |
| 11:35:57 | warewolf | so |
| 11:36:14 | warewolf | 17 minutes is 1020 seconds |
| 11:36:15 | Bger | any objections in commiting the h300's LCD brightness patch ? |
| 11:36:38 | warewolf | if gravity accelerates objects at a rate of 32.2 feet per second per second, then that needle fell from a distance of ... |
| 11:36:57 | warewolf | fuck if I know. |
| 11:37:01 | warewolf | my math isn't taht good. |
| 11:37:16 | amiconn | ~5000 km, but gravity isn't constant about such long distances |
| 11:37:35 | Bger | amiconn ? |
| 11:39:14 | Slasheri | but the needle was light and air resistance more limiting factor :) |
| 11:39:39 | solexx | Slasheri: do you think that's air you're breathing now? :) |
| 11:40:14 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 11:40:25 | warewolf | hmm |
| 11:42:43 | amiconn | warewolf: s = 0.5 * a * t^2 with a = g = 9.81 m / s^2 and t = 1020 s |
| 11:43:03 | warewolf | amiconn: I was just looking at http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1534.htm |
| 11:43:03 | warewolf | heh |
| 11:43:37 | warewolf | you probally took physics in school. I didn't. |
| 11:43:57 | warewolf | I decided I need to go into the IT industry and actually learn a paycheck, and dropped out of college. |
| 11:45:49 | warewolf | 5000 km is 3106 miles. Damn that's far. |
| 11:46:25 | warewolf | that's almost a third of what I drive my car in a year. |
| 11:48:00 | * | warewolf considers blackholing 60.224/13 from his mail server |
| 11:48:26 | solexx | conclusion: you could have saved a year minus 17 minutes if you had gravity propulsion :) |
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| 12:07:06 | warewolf | oh man |
| 12:07:08 | warewolf | please don't irc as root |
| 12:07:13 | warewolf | that's just asking for trouble |
| 12:07:56 | HCl | heh |
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| 12:21:51 | miner49er | hey there guys, can someone answer an IRC related question for me please? |
| 12:22:12 | Bger | ask |
| 12:23:27 | miner49er | okay, I registerd my nick last night but, naughty naughty, I was logged into my machine as root. I've logged in sensibly as a user, but I need to re-register my nick...i think, as i can't send private messages |
| 12:24:19 | Slasheri | you should never log to your machine as root (at least not from any window manager). Instead you should use su - |
| 12:25:14 | miner49er | I know, I know. but what can I do now with regards to this IRC thingy |
| 12:25:38 | ashridah | miner49er: registering doesn |
| 12:25:50 | ashridah | 't record the ident your machine is using |
| 12:26:16 | ashridah | so just identifying again should work (/msg nickserv identify <nick> <pass>) |
| 12:26:48 | miner49er | ashridah: Okay, well why when I opened up my IRC client, as user miner49er did it say nick already registered? |
| 12:26:54 | miner49er | <pass> |
| 12:27:00 | Kohlrabi | becazse you did last night |
| 12:27:00 | miner49er | that didn't do anything |
| 12:27:08 | Kohlrabi | enter your password there |
| 12:27:15 | miner49er | okay, do I need to log in with my passoword somehow then? |
| 12:27:23 | Kohlrabi | identify |
| 12:27:31 | miner49er | Kohirabi: where dude? |
| 12:27:39 | Kohlrabi | /ns identify YOURNICK YOURPASSWORD |
| 12:27:48 | _FireFly_ | "/msg nickserv identify <nick> <pass>" |
| 12:28:07 | Kohlrabi | err |
| 12:28:08 | Kohlrabi | no |
| 12:28:14 | Kohlrabi | Just password I think? |
| 12:28:18 | Kohlrabi | As parameter |
| 12:28:24 | Kohlrabi | /ns identify YOURPASSWORD |
| 12:28:25 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 12:28:30 | _FireFly_ | "/msg nickserv identify <pass>" |
| 12:28:46 | Jungti1234 | bye~ |
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| 12:29:20 | Kohlrabi | works, miner? |
| 12:31:09 | miner49er | it works now, i just want a nice quick way of doing it now...automatically |
| 12:31:17 | miner49er | cheers everyone :-) |
| 12:31:41 | Bger | w00t, my first (ever) commit didn't make red builds :) |
| 12:32:00 | Moos | Congratulations |
| 12:32:19 | Bger | and now brightness setting for H300 in cvs |
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| 12:33:03 | _FireFly_ | miner49er it depends on you irc-client |
| 12:33:18 | miner49er | KSirc is what i'm using |
| 12:33:25 | miner49er | I think! |
| 12:33:30 | _FireFly_ | modtly you can define an command or a list of commands which gets executed when you are connected to an irc-server |
| 12:33:34 | _FireFly_ | mostly |
| 12:33:35 | Bagder | congrats on the commit Bger! |
| 12:34:09 | _FireFly_ | Bger was you yesterday with the new button-assignment for the remote of h1xx/h3xx |
| 12:34:12 | _FireFly_ | ? |
| 12:35:13 | Bger | yes, i am :) |
| 12:35:18 | Bger | i'm working on it |
| 12:35:19 | Bger | :) |
| 12:35:34 | Bger | 10x, Bagder |
| 12:35:43 | _FireFly_ | maybe i was a bit fast with may no against the new one |
| 12:35:47 | _FireFly_ | my |
| 12:35:58 | Bger | why ? |
| 12:36:02 | Bger | did you tried it ? |
| 12:36:30 | _FireFly_ | after i had played with it a bit longer it isn't so bad as i thought |
| 12:37:01 | Bger | _FireFly_ i don't have such remote and i can't tell anything ... |
| 12:37:11 | _FireFly_ | only the vol-up/down should be switched |
| 12:37:17 | _FireFly_ | for the h1xx-remote |
| 12:37:42 | _FireFly_ | so when you press vol-down on this remote the cursor moves up |
| 12:37:43 | Bger | hm... |
| 12:38:13 | Bger | isn't this just a matter of habbit ? |
| 12:38:41 | _FireFly_ | true :) |
| 12:38:45 | Bger | i mean |
| 12:38:57 | Bger | if this is the only problem ... |
| 12:40:00 | Bger | hm, i should post a question @ misticriver |
| 12:40:14 | Bger | to get more opinions |
| 12:40:26 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
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| 12:42:08 | Denzil | hi everyone |
| 12:42:13 | Bger | hi, Denzil |
| 12:42:20 | Denzil | I'm webguest80 |
| 12:42:30 | Denzil | here I have the link |
| 12:42:38 | Denzil | I was talking about yesterday |
| 12:42:44 | Denzil | http://micronasnit.com/ |
| 12:42:48 | Bger | ah, yes :) |
| 12:43:02 | Denzil | dunno which nationality the site is |
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| 12:43:16 | Denzil | but it looks like a university course or such |
| 12:43:49 | Bagder | I'm quite sure we have all that info already |
| 12:44:40 | Denzil | so you got the instruction set... |
| 12:44:47 | Bagder | I think we do, yes |
| 12:44:56 | Bger | this is czech or poland or such |
| 12:45:01 | Denzil | well, ok, nothing new then |
| 12:45:15 | Bger | slavic for sure :) |
| 12:45:34 | Denzil | ok, that's all |
| 12:45:36 | Denzil | gotta go |
| 12:45:40 | Denzil | see you! |
| 12:45:45 | Bger | Denzil bye & 10x |
| 12:45:48 | Bagder | "University of Belgrade" |
| 12:45:57 | Bger | haha ok :) |
| 12:45:59 | Bagder | owns the IP at least |
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| 12:46:24 | Bger | ok, serbian :) |
| 12:46:45 | * | Bger didn't guess the language of his neighbours ... |
| 12:46:53 | Bagder | hehe |
| 12:47:12 | Bger | in fact, i can read this pretty easy |
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| 12:48:42 | Bger | Bagder so the following is known already: http://micronasnit.com/AADSP/Downloads/MASdoc.zip |
| 12:49:02 | Bagder | I think so. I'm not personally that involved in the MAS hacking |
| 12:49:28 | Bger | there are even examples ... |
| 12:49:49 | Bger | (serbian: "Primeri") |
| 12:49:50 | Bagder | well, we even have code from Archos I believe |
| 12:49:56 | Bagder | for the wav stuff |
| 12:50:05 | Bger | not the code, only binary ... |
| 12:50:07 | Bger | afaik |
| 12:50:18 | Bagder | hm, yes that might be right |
| 12:50:20 | Bger | the code is in hex in one array |
| 12:50:24 | nathanh | hrm, i think when theres blood on the guitar strings, it might be time to take a break |
| 12:50:34 | Bger | ok, maybe more arrays :) |
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| 12:52:41 | Zak1392 | hey guys |
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| 13:02:28 | petur | Bger: congratulations on the commit! |
| 13:03:06 | Zak1392 | what commit? |
| 13:03:19 | petur | brrrrightnesssss ;) |
| 13:03:27 | Zak1392 | oh, that |
| 13:03:30 | Zak1392 | pretty cool |
| 13:03:55 | Zak1392 | i have mine on 5 |
| 13:04:32 | petur | Bger: shall I remove the patch from the tracker? |
| 13:07:19 | petur | Bger: nevermind, I did already... |
| 13:08:38 | petur | Bger: btw, you need to remove yours (1379581) |
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| 13:10:35 | linuxstb | petur: Have you looked at any other features of the pcf50606 apart from the backlight power? I was wondering if the standby mode and wakeup-on-RTC-alarm features would would on the h300. |
| 13:10:43 | linuxstb | s/would would/would work/ |
| 13:10:57 | petur | haven't, but I could ;) |
| 13:11:31 | Bger | petur ah yeah :) |
| 13:11:40 | Bger | yes, remove it, yes, i'll remove (close) mine |
| 13:11:51 | petur | linuxstb: but it will be for next year... |
| 13:12:11 | Bger | linuxstb i can look at them next week :P |
| 13:12:15 | Bger | but i don't promise |
| 13:12:41 | linuxstb | I don't own a h300, but I'll be implementing something similar on the ipod's pcf50605. Which is why I mentioned it. |
| 13:12:59 | Bger | linuxstb yeah, i know |
| 13:13:16 | petur | I was also looking at the gain setting for recording because I'm not convinced we're using all available gain and mixer settings |
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| 13:15:34 | preglow | ipod nano with cache was in confusingly working state for me today |
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| 13:17:11 | linuxstb | preglow: I got that sometimes. Reminds me of the bootloader LCD corruption. |
| 13:18:50 | preglow | hmm |
| 13:18:57 | preglow | and that was caused by the cop |
| 13:19:00 | preglow | at least for me |
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| 13:20:01 | preglow | but cop shouldn't affect things here, since it's sleeping, and has got a cache of its own in any case |
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| 13:27:29 | VagueRant | howdy all |
| 13:28:27 | VagueRant | quick q, for the life of me i can't work out why my rockboxed h300 volume goes from -100 to 0 |
| 13:28:53 | VagueRant | there was a thread on mistic about it but i can't find it |
| 13:29:49 | Bagder | I bet there are several threads |
| 13:29:58 | Bagder | the scale is now dB |
| 13:30:00 | petur | there are :) |
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| 13:31:40 | Membrillo | Hiya Kids |
| 13:31:52 | Bagder | hi dad |
| 13:31:56 | preglow | grandad! |
| 13:32:30 | Membrillo | thats the sort of response i like after coming home from a hard day at the office |
| 13:32:37 | Membrillo | now wheres my wife |
| 13:32:47 | Membrillo | get in the kitchen and make me some dinner |
| 13:33:05 | VagueRant | i been searchin but i can't find it im sorry |
| 13:34:12 | VagueRant | sorry, my bad -84 to 0 |
| 13:34:17 | Membrillo | yo linuxstb, you managed to get the ipod bootloader to patch on windows? |
| 13:34:19 | amiconn | The volume scale should go -84..0 on units with UDA1380 (i.e. iriver H1x0 and H3x0) |
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| 13:34:36 | VagueRant | as reported on rockbox.org |
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| 13:35:30 | linuxstb | Membrillo: No, I haven't looked at that at all. I'm hoping that feature will be added to the new Rockbox installer being developed. |
| 13:35:55 | Membrillo | good good. ill keep patient |
| 13:35:58 | linuxstb | But I also need to fix the bootloader so that it will load the Apple firmware again. |
| 13:36:06 | Membrillo | of course |
| 13:36:28 | Membrillo | you traced down the cause of that? |
| 13:36:40 | linuxstb | No. |
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| 13:37:12 | Membrillo | okey doke |
| 13:39:34 | VagueRant | alrighty, is there a way to do percent for volume? |
| 13:40:10 | Bagder | nope |
| 13:41:25 | Bger | Jungti1234 yes ? |
| 13:41:38 | VagueRant | anybody got a good graphic volume? |
| 13:42:22 | VagueRant | also looking for a nice battery symbol (animated? |
| 13:42:27 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 13:42:30 | VagueRant | ) |
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| 13:45:10 | amiconn | Bger: Why isn't the backlight brightness just handled as a numeric setting in settings.c ? |
| 13:45:28 | petur | because I didn't know how? |
| 13:45:58 | Bger | hm, i thinked about this but when it's 0 or 1 the screen is not readable ... |
| 13:46:00 | amiconn | Hmm? Numeric settings are even simpler that multi-value settings, and there's a lot of exaples |
| 13:46:31 | petur | alright, hit me on the head ;) |
| 13:46:54 | amiconn | Bger: So the valid range is 2..15. This doesn't stop it from being a numeric setting. I know that the current settings system does allow out-of-bounds values, |
| 13:46:59 | * | Bagder hands out the trouts ;-) |
| 13:47:05 | Bger | s/thinked/thought |
| 13:47:36 | amiconn | While this shouldn't be a big problem, it'll be sorted when we switch to file-based settings at some point in teh future |
| 13:48:58 | amiconn | Bger: If you want to make sure out-of-bouds values aren't possible, backlight_set_brightness could catch it |
| 13:49:14 | petur | it does... |
| 13:50:12 | petur | but it will probably accept 0 and 1 as they are valid pwm values :( |
| 13:50:29 | amiconn | Yes, that's what I mean |
| 13:50:57 | Bger | so, the user could select 0 & 1, but they'll be in fact 2 ? |
| 13:51:29 | amiconn | No, I mean settings.c should handle it as a plain numeric setting |
| 13:51:52 | amiconn | The settings menu doesn't allow setting 0 and 1. If someone writes 0 or 1 into a .cfg file by hand, he should know what he is doing |
| 13:52:33 | petur | backlight_set_brightness() should do proper limit checking... my bad |
| 13:52:59 | Bger | petur no worries |
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| 13:53:03 | amiconn | Imho it's not necessary, but it could do that |
| 13:53:28 | * | petur remembers you need a strong light to see the display if you set it to 0 or 1 ;) |
| 13:53:32 | amiconn | It's not really dangerous to set 0 or 1 (dangerous in the sense that it could crash) |
| 13:56:01 | Bger | Jungti1234 put it in the incoming/rockbox directory |
| 13:56:16 | Jungti1234 | Permission denied |
| 13:57:37 | Bger | amiconn so the line should be {4, S_O(brightness), 9, "brightness", NULL } |
| 13:57:40 | Bger | ? |
| 13:58:34 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
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| 14:01:11 | miner49er | how can I force the backlight to stay on for a plugin (for archos) |
| 14:01:46 | Bger | miner49er with calling backlight_on(1) periodically |
| 14:02:50 | amiconn | nope |
| 14:03:07 | amiconn | You can set the backlight to always on while the plugin is running |
| 14:03:10 | miner49er | oooh, that sounds a bit lame. Can't the configuration settings be temporarily changed? |
| 14:03:19 | amiconn | Just don't forget to set it back before retuirning |
| 14:03:22 | miner49er | amiconn: yeah, that's what I want to do! |
| 14:03:30 | amiconn | There are several plugins which already do that |
| 14:03:45 | amiconn | video.rock is one example |
| 14:03:49 | miner49er | okay, which ones, i'll have a look |
| 14:04:00 | Bger | amiconn there are some other examples doing the backlight_on(1) thing ... |
| 14:04:03 | Bger | sorry |
| 14:04:56 | miner49er | okay, cheers amiconn |
| 14:05:48 | amiconn | Bger: Afaik there is _no_ example that call this periodically |
| 14:07:08 | amiconn | rb->backlight_set_timeout(1); // keep the light on |
| 14:07:45 | amiconn | ..and at the end: rb->backlight_set_timeout(rb->global_settings->backlight_timeout); |
| 14:08:32 | miner49er | excellent, cheers amiconn :-) |
| 14:09:03 | Bger | so, rb->backlight_set_timeout(1) sets it ON ? |
| 14:09:07 | Bger | ok, sorry, i'm dumb |
| 14:09:51 | Jungti1234 | Bger, What do you want? |
| 14:09:56 | amiconn | The timeout values are idices |
| 14:10:01 | amiconn | 0 is always off |
| 14:10:07 | amiconn | 1 is always on |
| 14:10:08 | amiconn | etc |
| 14:10:32 | Bger | yes, just realised that ... |
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| 14:16:29 | Bagder | daily build meta info: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2005-12/0119.shtml |
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| 14:23:32 | Jungti1234 | http://www.google.co.kr/doodle10.html |
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| 14:24:05 | Jungti1234 | Happy Holidays! :) |
| 14:24:36 | NHeal | brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
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| 14:27:20 | * | Bger cryes from the number of wps bmps ... |
| 14:27:28 | preglow | yes, that needs fixing |
| 14:27:32 | preglow | in a way that's not too annoying |
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| 14:31:07 | * | amiconn whispers: Unified bitmap patch by _FireFly_ |
| 14:33:19 | Bger | amiconn please, see my first "OOps" commit :) |
| 14:33:26 | Jungti1234 | OO |
| 14:33:56 | Jungti1234 | Bger |
| 14:34:03 | Bger | yes, Jungti1234 |
| 14:34:26 | Jungti1234 | Did you do it commit? |
| 14:34:43 | Jungti1234 | -> Did you commit it? |
| 14:35:01 | Bger | no, i corrected my previous commit |
| 14:35:45 | Bger | someone here with korean fonts ? |
| 14:35:45 | Jungti1234 | I must sleep. :( |
| 14:35:51 | Jungti1234 | I have. |
| 14:35:54 | Bger | Jungti1234 oki, nite |
| 14:36:10 | Bger | yes, but i'd like one of the devs to look at it ... |
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| 14:36:20 | Jungti1234 | bdf? |
| 14:36:25 | Jungti1234 | ttf? |
| 14:36:36 | Bger | hm, Jungti1234, i don't have time no, gotta go |
| 14:36:44 | Bger | but i'll look at it |
| 14:36:47 | Bger | today or tomorrow |
| 14:36:50 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 14:36:58 | Jungti1234 | good night :) |
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| 14:37:46 | MrShlee | Weird, I've never had the H3 booting problem until an hour ago :S |
| 14:37:57 | MrShlee | Wonder if its got anything to do with the battery :| |
| 14:38:00 | MrShlee | as mine was flat |
| 14:40:50 | _FireFly_ | amiconn not unified it si combined-bitmap ;) |
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| 14:40:55 | _FireFly_ | s/si/is |
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| 14:55:25 | Bger | www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=359958 and www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=359959 |
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| 15:16:05 | preglow | amiconn: how does that patch work? does it require people to work on a big bitmap, or does it come with conversion tools? |
| 15:18:39 | Bagder | I think it simply works on a bit bmp |
| 15:18:48 | Bagder | big |
| 15:20:50 | San | badger, you relise you posted the H300 remote buttons twice on MR? |
| 15:20:53 | San | :P |
| 15:21:10 | Bagder | I didn't |
| 15:21:15 | San | you did |
| 15:21:20 | San | it is sorted now tought |
| 15:21:23 | San | *tough |
| 15:21:40 | Bagder | but perhaps Bger did |
| 15:21:54 | San | ah, bager? |
| 15:21:55 | San | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33921 |
| 15:22:00 | San | sorry |
| 15:22:08 | San | read the name wrong |
| 15:22:08 | San | :\ |
| 15:22:22 | Bagder | well you addressed badger up there and there's no one here with such a nick ;-) |
| 15:23:27 | San | you are badger |
| 15:23:29 | San | :P |
| 15:24:02 | Bagder | well, that only proofs I'm not the only dyslexic here |
| 15:24:06 | Bagder | proves even |
| 15:24:12 | linuxstb | hehe |
| 15:25:35 | preglow | arf |
| 15:26:09 | preglow | how i hate carrying things |
| 15:28:11 | preglow | later, all |
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| 15:37:38 | miner49er | I've submitted a test version of my asteroids game to the patch tracker, it's just the .c file at the moment but please give me feedback as tonight is the lat night I can work on it for 2 weeks! |
| 15:38:02 | miner49er | ...oh, and it probably only runs on the JBR at the moment...oops. |
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| 16:06:18 | Bger | uf, these MR members :( |
| 16:06:45 | Mongey| | what? |
| 16:06:46 | Bger | i posted it 2 times: one in H300's RB forum and one in H100's RB ... |
| 16:07:45 | Mongey| | posted what? |
| 16:08:56 | Mongey| | oh |
| 16:09:48 | Mongey| | ill test |
| 16:10:41 | Mongey| | im luke im 5, my dads bruce lee, he drives me round in his jcb |
| 16:10:54 | Mongey| | :) |
| 16:11:41 | Bger | ;) |
| 16:11:55 | Mongey| | do u like that sog? |
| 16:12:15 | Bger | in fact i don't know it |
| 16:13:28 | Mongey| | remote is brill |
| 16:13:55 | Mongey| | ty |
| 16:13:58 | Mongey| | gtg |
| 16:14:01 | Mongey| | bye |
| 16:14:03 | Mongey| | bye |
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| 16:15:17 | Bger | bril ? |
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| 16:32:10 | Bger | nite |
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| 17:07:13 | DiveineIn | hello, ne1 here? |
| 17:07:54 | miner49er | yay! |
| 17:08:07 | DiveineIn | id like some guidance pls... |
| 17:08:17 | DiveineIn | i want to start building plugins for the h300 |
| 17:08:25 | DiveineIn | and i cant find any info on it... |
| 17:08:33 | miner49er | okay, well i've built some for archos |
| 17:08:39 | DiveineIn | any chance you (or anyone else) can point me in the right direction? |
| 17:08:57 | DiveineIn | i understand they are build in C, right? |
| 17:08:59 | miner49er | take a look at the helloworld.c plugin for a start |
| 17:09:04 | miner49er | yeah, all in c |
| 17:09:05 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide |
| 17:09:13 | miner49er | ...or go there! |
| 17:09:28 | DiveineIn | damn, i forgot c, moved on to .net, itll take a while to remember :( |
| 17:09:37 | Bagder | first make sure you can build everything from source fine |
| 17:09:43 | miner49er | I doubt you completely forgot it! |
| 17:10:20 | DiveineIn | not completely, but im sure ill confuse C# with C |
| 17:10:21 | miner49er | The instructions on the site are very good. What operating system are you on? |
| 17:10:27 | DiveineIn | winxp |
| 17:10:57 | DiveineIn | already d/l cygwin |
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| 17:14:06 | DiveineIn | whats SH1 and COLDFIRE? |
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| 17:15:13 | miner49er | There is a very good development kit put together by Bluechip that works well on XP |
| 17:15:13 | miner49er | aah, well the devkit has it all wrapped up nicely. i'd recommend it |
| 17:15:13 | miner49er | you just install and go really |
| 17:15:15 | miner49er | get the latest source tarball as well though, full instructions come with the devkit |
| 17:15:21 | lostlogicx | processor types |
| 17:15:27 | miner49er | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
| 17:15:33 | miner49er | there the CPU's I believe, Archos uses SH1 and I think the iRiver uses Coldfire, though I'm not 100% |
| 17:15:35 | miner49er | must dash now anyway, byee! |
| 17:15:43 | lostlogicx | that's correct. |
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| 17:37:14 | pinkutank | is linus on, oh no, not on |
| 17:37:24 | pinkutank | anyone palying around with rockbox for h300 |
| 17:38:33 | pinkutank | I'd like to know if flashing rockbox with us firmware kills drm |
| 17:42:42 | lostlogicx | pinkutank: afaik yes it does. |
| 17:43:40 | pinkutank | bah, would flash right away but I'm gonna sell mine in a month |
| 17:43:46 | pinkutank | I really dont like it |
| 17:44:09 | lostlogicx | hmph, I love it with rockbox, liked it a lot w/ original firmware too. |
| 17:44:22 | pinkutank | I dont like the key layout |
| 17:44:28 | pinkutank | I dont like the screen |
| 17:44:37 | pinkutank | my fingers are too big for the keys |
| 17:44:49 | pinkutank | and I hate seeing a black screen when the backlight is off |
| 17:44:50 | lostlogicx | what are you going to replace it with? |
| 17:45:00 | lostlogicx | any color LCD will have that most likely. |
| 17:45:06 | pinkutank | I have a ihp 120 that I use |
| 17:45:16 | pinkutank | and not necessarily any color lcd has that |
| 17:45:19 | pinkutank | for example |
| 17:45:23 | pinkutank | ipod nano |
| 17:45:25 | pinkutank | ipod 5g |
| 17:45:30 | pinkutank | creative zen vision m |
| 17:45:35 | pinkutank | and archos gmini 40* |
| 17:45:43 | lostlogicx | the backlight goes off and the screen is still readable!? |
| 17:45:47 | pinkutank | yes |
| 17:45:54 | pinkutank | in all of those players |
| 17:46:08 | pinkutank | there are different kinds of lcds out there |
| 17:46:15 | lostlogicx | I'll have to look at one of them −− I've never seen a color LCD like that. |
| 17:46:24 | pinkutank | the only advantage of having one like the h320 is you can see it better from sides |
| 17:46:32 | Slasheri | my mobile phone color screens are too very readable when backlight is off |
| 17:46:38 | lostlogicx | well that's a pretty big advantage, eh? |
| 17:46:55 | pinkutank | lol, I think it isnt even an advantage |
| 17:47:04 | lostlogicx | Slasheri: that's true, my cell is readable without backlight, but it's so dull compared to the H300 |
| 17:47:15 | pinkutank | I dont put my player on a desk and try to watch a movie with 4 friends |
| 17:47:27 | Slasheri | lostlogicx: hehe, might be true.. i have never seen the h300 screen |
| 17:47:30 | lostlogicx | haha, I put it on my desk to th side and glance at it so I need the angles. |
| 17:47:37 | pinkutank | h300s screen is not that good |
| 17:47:42 | pinkutank | you can still see it |
| 17:47:45 | lostlogicx | I guess this is why there are so many different types of DAPs ;) |
| 17:47:55 | pinkutank | but it will be a little washed out at extreme angles |
| 17:48:26 | Slasheri | Hmm, but i think oled displays would be the coolest ones :) |
| 17:48:37 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 17:48:44 | lostlogicx | yarr, lower power consumption too, right? |
| 17:48:47 | pinkutank | ipod nano, ipod 5g, and zen visionm all have better screens than h300 |
| 17:48:53 | pinkutank | I never seen an oled yet |
| 17:49:18 | Slasheri | oleds are something like a very thin led matrix.. they have extremely wide angle and clear screen |
| 17:49:34 | Slasheri | but they draw some power constantly.. but it should be easy to dim those thought |
| 17:58:38 | DiveineIn | ummm, stupid question |
| 17:58:48 | DiveineIn | i set up everything for starting to make plugins |
| 17:58:57 | DiveineIn | but i never worked with unix/linux before |
| 17:59:08 | DiveineIn | is there a dev enviornment? |
| 17:59:14 | DiveineIn | how do i use it? |
| 17:59:29 | DiveineIn | even a simple text editor would be fine :) |
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| 18:02:52 | Slasheri | make is everything you need to compile the code :) if you are looking a console editor, i could suggest jed (but you should modify the .jedrc file). kate is great for use in kde |
| 18:03:18 | DiveineIn | Slasheri: was that in english? |
| 18:03:23 | DiveineIn | :) |
| 18:05:40 | ender` | type make, then type jed :) |
| 18:06:58 | pinkutank | in the console that is |
| 18:07:09 | ender` | DiveineIn: what OS are you used to? |
| 18:08:22 | _FireFly_ | i think Windows |
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| 18:11:23 | miner49er | just use notepad! or download crimson editor for free :-) |
| 18:11:34 | _FireFly_ | or jedit ;) |
| 18:29:53 | amiconn | Hmm, still no LinusN :( |
| 18:30:10 | _FireFly_ | tja then you must wait ;) |
| 18:30:20 | _FireFly_ | or mail him if you now the address |
| 18:30:27 | _FireFly_ | an email ;) |
| 18:31:10 | _FireFly_ | know |
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| 18:50:30 | dropandho | hey firefly! |
| 18:50:36 | dropandho | are you mr. remote? |
| 18:50:43 | _FireFly_ | ? |
| 18:50:48 | |u|smooth | anything new for the h300? |
| 18:50:59 | dropandho | you do a bunch of work on the remote for iriver...dont cha? |
| 18:51:08 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 18:51:16 | dropandho | thank you sooo much! |
| 18:51:20 | dropandho | it is reallly appreciated |
| 18:51:24 | _FireFly_ | :) thanks |
| 18:51:25 | dropandho | and sooo helpful |
| 18:51:47 | dropandho | was wondering if you were still working at it? porting the other screens etc? |
| 18:51:52 | _FireFly_ | TiMiD has created a good base to do it the right way |
| 18:52:05 | dropandho | yes, definately! |
| 18:52:16 | mirak | |u|smooth: xvid |
| 18:52:38 | |u|smooth | video works? |
| 18:53:04 | _FireFly_ | currently not much i have made only the sleep-timer-setting menu be shown and adjustable from the remote |
| 18:53:08 | mirak | there is an unoptimised plugin |
| 18:53:39 | dropandho | got it |
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| 18:53:49 | dropandho | any plans to do any further? |
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| 18:54:31 | _FireFly_ | at least the vkeyboard and bookmark select-screen are missing |
| 18:54:44 | dropandho | yeah- i saw that |
| 18:54:50 | dropandho | you leaving that up to someone else? |
| 18:54:56 | amiconn | recording screen... |
| 18:55:14 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: if you want you can do it ;) |
| 18:55:28 | amiconn | If I had enough time I would, |
| 18:55:36 | amiconn | but remote is low-pri for me, you know... |
| 18:55:37 | |u|smooth | yea why when i boot up its automatically on recording |
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| 18:57:23 | _FireFly_ | a big task would be to made the vkeyboard multi-screen capable if the different keyboard-code for the charcell-lcd-targets should be also covered with the new one |
| 18:57:34 | mirak | can I delete files from rockbox ? |
| 18:57:59 | _FireFly_ | mirak: do you mean when running rockbox ?? |
| 18:58:09 | mirak | delete files from the file system |
| 18:58:16 | mirak | with rockbox |
| 18:58:16 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 18:58:41 | _FireFly_ | long press select then you can select delete in the showing menu |
| 18:58:51 | amiconn | _FireFly_: I don't think so. Going multiscreen requires more flexible vkeyboard code anyway, and integrating charcell support should become relatively easy |
| 18:59:34 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: could be but i have currently no idea how to do it |
| 18:59:41 | amiconn | ...including morse support |
| 18:59:48 | amiconn | I do |
| 18:59:52 | _FireFly_ | ? |
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| 19:00:01 | amiconn | (have an idea) |
| 19:00:07 | _FireFly_ | tell me |
| 19:00:11 | _FireFly_ | please :) |
| 19:00:18 | _FireFly_ | you you have time |
| 19:00:25 | _FireFly_ | if you |
| 19:00:32 | amiconn | See yesterday's log |
| 19:01:26 | _FireFly_ | i will look |
| 19:01:38 | mirak | can anyone tell me how the iram is used actually in the codecs ? |
| 19:01:41 | mirak | briefly |
| 19:02:05 | mirak | are the data copied hover iram for each important function ? |
| 19:02:18 | mirak | then passed back to ram ? |
| 19:03:13 | dropandho | that would be sooo great to work out the remote stuff! |
| 19:03:42 | Lear | mirak: soon after start each codec copies whatever is needed. Just look in the beginning of a codec. |
| 19:04:20 | Lear | Look for the USE_IRAM ifdef. |
| 19:04:53 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: i think this is a nice idea |
| 19:06:18 | _FireFly_ | we could use the current one-page-array and define an rect which defines the viewable chars |
| 19:06:36 | _FireFly_ | depending on the screen-size |
| 19:07:00 | dropandho | wooo- so its not soooo bad?! |
| 19:07:50 | _FireFly_ | then we would have in the first stage only two realy pages the char-map and the morse-code-list |
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| 19:09:55 | _FireFly_ | also to have the non ascii/latin-1 eventually latin9 char-map for the keyboard to be part of the language file is great |
| 19:10:05 | Lear | Hrm... Glyph preloading crashes the simulator... So ... keep the preloading and fix it (and make it more complete?), or remove it? Any opinions? |
| 19:13:38 | mirak | Lear: I see this line, but I don't understand how it can be enough |
| 19:13:41 | mirak | #ifdef USE_IRAM |
| 19:13:41 | mirak | rb->memcpy(iramstart, iramcopy, iramend - iramstart); |
| 19:13:41 | mirak | #endif |
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| 19:15:43 | Lear | It copies all data from a copy to the beginning of the iram section. The data is either constant or zeroed out (bss), so there's no need to copy anything back (other than when switching to the voice playback, but the codecs don't need to worry about that). |
| 19:16:14 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: i will try to create a small "design-paper" for this |
| 19:16:35 | mirak | Lear: I don't understand |
| 19:16:35 | dropandho | that is sooo great firefly |
| 19:16:38 | dropandho | thanks ones again |
| 19:16:48 | dropandho | it is really appreciated that you are picking this up and running with it |
| 19:16:55 | dropandho | i would love to have a complete remote |
| 19:17:03 | mirak | Lear: the copy happen only once ? |
| 19:17:29 | Lear | Only once, during codec initialization, yes. Codecs are loaded on demand, after all. |
| 19:17:46 | mirak | so what is copied then ? |
| 19:18:06 | amiconn | Lear: If glyph preloading crashes the sim, I'd say that should be fixed. The sim usually doesn't crash without reason... |
| 19:18:08 | mirak | I though music data where copied into iram then processed into it |
| 19:18:15 | mirak | Lear: I don't get the picture |
| 19:19:18 | Lear | No, generally the file data isn't copied there (unless to a temporary buffer). IRAM is mainly used for commonly used tables and buffers and small chunks of decoded audio (during processing). |
| 19:19:38 | Lear | There is only 96 kB, of which the codec gets to use half of it. |
| 19:19:41 | amiconn | _FireFly_: I can see problems for 2 targets with my virtual page idea. |
| 19:19:43 | mirak | Lear: yes of course I understand that |
| 19:19:58 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: yes ? |
| 19:21:07 | amiconn | There are 2 targets which use keyboard modes because there aren't enough buttons to allow separate button (combos) for moving the cursor within the input line and deleting chars. |
| 19:21:26 | amiconn | These use keyboard modes today |
| 19:21:35 | Lear | mirak: So, what parts do you not understand? |
| 19:21:51 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: i have seen it in the sources |
| 19:22:01 | Moos | Lear: hi, did you look at the lostlogix's patch for optimise Tremor a bit again? |
| 19:22:46 | amiconn | On Ondio, LEFT at the left border and RIGHT at the right border are used to switch pages, as there is no separate button for that. UP at the top border and DOWN at the bottom border switches to line mode, allowing to move the cursor and delete chars within the input line |
| 19:23:13 | Lear | moos: again and again. I've applied one part of it (though in a different way), and I plan to do the rest too (the iram tweak bit). |
| 19:23:28 | _FireFly_ | i think on these 2 targets a button could switch between line-editing and char-selects |
| 19:23:49 | amiconn | On the player, the virtual page is one line only. ON switches between line edit at picker |
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| 19:23:56 | Moos | Lear: good to hear you're in this area |
| 19:23:57 | mirak | Lear: when it happens in the code |
| 19:24:14 | amiconn | _FireFly_: Which_ button on Ondio is the biiiig question |
| 19:24:19 | _FireFly_ | yeah |
| 19:24:21 | mirak | Lear: I am in tremor and try to search wich datas are put into the iram |
| 19:24:52 | amiconn | LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN are used for moving. MODE adds a char (or deletes a char in line mode). Long MODE accepts, OFF aborts |
| 19:25:01 | amiconn | No other button available... |
| 19:25:11 | _FireFly_ | and what about combos ?? |
| 19:26:06 | mirak | Lear: I am thinking how it can be used for xvid |
| 19:26:06 | amiconn | We could keep the move-out-of-picker-area system, but the picker area will be bigger with a virtual page, potentially way bigger |
| 19:26:16 | Lear | mirak: the copy I mentioned is where it happens. The rest is done during linking. Through the ICODE_ATTR/IDATA_ATTR/ICONST_ATTR macros, different bits of code and data are put in separate sections, that are located after each other in the binary file. The copy does the final part. |
| 19:26:18 | amiconn | (thinking chinese/japanese) |
| 19:27:23 | Lear | mirak: Similar approach, I guess, though you need to make sure no codec is running first, obviously... |
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| 19:28:26 | _FireFly_ | the otherside at least for the player it would be hard to display on them non-latin chars |
| 19:28:31 | amiconn | Combos might be possible, but combos involving MODE forbid the convenient 'Long MODE accepts' assignment. Otherwise the user has to be really fast... |
| 19:28:40 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 19:28:49 | mirak | there is no japanese participating rockbox ? |
| 19:28:52 | amiconn | _FireFly_: The player doesn't need to display non-latin. |
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| 19:29:04 | _FireFly_ | ah ok |
| 19:29:12 | amiconn | It should just share the virtual page (and morse) code |
| 19:29:59 | _FireFly_ | you mean the builtin virtual page |
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| 19:36:42 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: can only MODE be used to have two button combos on the ondio?? |
| 19:37:06 | amiconn | MODE or OFF, but OFF is very inconvenient |
| 19:37:40 | amiconn | Combos involving OFF need to be pressed in the 'reverse' order, to avoid switching the unit off |
| 19:37:41 | _FireFly_ | yepp but a long press OFF could be used but if should is a other question |
| 19:38:08 | _FireFly_ | oh yes |
| 19:38:18 | amiconn | We already have 2 places which use long OFF, but that's ugly |
| 19:38:33 | _FireFly_ | ok long press OFF is no option |
| 19:39:20 | mirak | Lear: long oggpack_look_full(oggpack_buffer *b,int bits) ICODE_ATTR; what is that doing ? |
| 19:40:08 | Lear | Tells the compiler to put that function into a specially named section. |
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| 19:54:17 | mirak | Lear: so generally the use of iram is not dynamical |
| 19:54:36 | mirak | ? |
| 19:56:13 | Lear | Nope. |
| 19:58:42 | mirak | Lear: but for exemple, the window on wich the idct are applied is copied in a buffer at run time |
| 19:59:01 | mirak | ? |
| 19:59:50 | mirak | for exemple |
| 19:59:57 | Lear | Where, more exactly? I guess tremor somewhere... |
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| 20:00:29 | mirak | for jpeg or xvid, I guess the blocks needs to be copied |
| 20:01:17 | Lear | You refer to the window data in window_lookup.h? |
| 20:01:17 | mirak | you can get an improvment of how much when using iram ? |
| 20:02:37 | Lear | I've no exact measures, but quite a lot. When Slasheri played with dithering, it was soon noticed that it was quite slow. I then tried moving most of the data used by the dithering code, for a large decrease in boost ratio (could've been halved or something, don't remember exactly). |
| 20:03:50 | Lear | it all depends on how much the data in question is used. |
| 20:04:23 | Lear | btw, anyone who knows what kind of latencies you get from normal ram? |
| 20:05:27 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: on home.arcor.de/s.wezel/design-papers you can find a file which defines the structur of the vkeyboard and used data-structs |
| 20:05:59 | _FireFly_ | rb-vkeyboard-design-paper.txt |
| 20:11:05 | dropandho | u rock firefly! |
| 20:11:10 | dropandho | sooo great |
| 20:11:14 | amiconn | mirak: Data that is only read once doesn't benefit from copying to IRAM, quite the opposite would happen |
| 20:11:22 | dropandho | is there anything else that needs to be looked at for remote? |
| 20:11:29 | amiconn | As soon as it is used more that once, the copying pays off |
| 20:11:45 | mirak | amiconn: have you done some benchmark with the same function in ram and iram ? |
| 20:12:12 | lostlogicx | Lear: any thoughts on my next version tremor optimization patch? Things that I did that are big no-nos, other approaches you think I might have better luck attacking? |
| 20:12:13 | _FireFly_ | dropandho: recording-screen |
| 20:12:18 | amiconn | Lear: Copying a large block of data from DRAM to DRAM takes ~4 times as long as copying a same-sized block from IRAM to IRAM |
| 20:12:27 | amiconn | That's already _with_ burst mode |
| 20:12:56 | Lear | lostlogicx: next version? |
| 20:13:01 | lostlogicx | Lear: in case you missed it yesterday, I like how you did the inlining, definitely better than just merging the .cs like I did. Only concern is the repetition of that add, but I guess it doesn't hurt much. |
| 20:13:18 | amiconn | mirak: Putting code into IRAM doesn't give nearly as much boost as putting data into IRAM |
| 20:13:31 | amiconn | The coldfire has an instruction cache, but no data cache |
| 20:13:32 | lostlogicx | Lear: I posted to patch tracker my latest optimizations, rebased up to what you put in CVS. |
| 20:13:42 | Lear | IIRC, the compiler re-used the result of it, so it might not be as bad as it looks. |
| 20:14:03 | lostlogicx | Lear: sweet! |
| 20:14:33 | lostlogicx | I didn't actually check the assembly results for those lines. |
| 20:15:44 | lostlogicx | I'm beginning to think that we can get a lot of performance improvement by converting everything that _is_ unsigned in the codec to be explicitly unsigned. Looks like a lot of time and code size is wasted jumping around to deal with positive vs. negative results that are impossible. |
| 20:16:10 | Lear | Well, I'm not sure if I checked the "CVS"-version, but I had that in one version at least... |
| 20:18:38 | lostlogicx | the addition is reused. |
| 20:20:29 | Lear | hm... do all those asms for stuff like add really help? |
| 20:21:13 | Lear | and at least those in oggpack_look seem to be in the rarely executed branch... |
| 20:23:20 | lostlogicx | good point on oggpack_look and yes, they do −− addq.l is much faster than move, add, move −− it depends how often the code is called... I threw them in everywhere they'd help at all, without really considering only doing it in critical code paths. |
| 20:25:19 | Lear | I did some quick checks on that, and the rare branch is executed in something like once every 200 calls or so. |
| 20:26:29 | lostlogicx | yeah, it's much much less, even GCC knows that, and compiles the code so that it's the further jump. the ADDQIs in framing.c are hit about 30k times each in a song |
| 20:26:42 | Lear | Btw, I did try assembler optimizations for the often executed branch in oggpack_look (i.e., the inlined part). Turns out it was difficult to improve the common cases. Easy to improve the uncommon case though... So I dropped that bit. |
| 20:26:45 | lostlogicx | for comparison, oggpack_read is called 206k times |
| 20:27:07 | Lear | oggpack_look far more than that, afaik. |
| 20:27:07 | lostlogicx | Lear: yeah, you're right on that, I discovered the same after much sweat and blood over it. |
| 20:27:22 | lostlogicx | yeah, oggpack_look was in the millions |
| 20:27:50 | lostlogicx | 15 million on oggpack look and 11 million on oggpack_adv |
| 20:29:18 | lostlogicx | praps just the render_point part is worth taking out of that patch ;) that had a tangible gain alone, because it was 1) written stupidly and 2) compiled stupidly. |
| 20:30:26 | lostlogicx | oh, that and maybe the (unsigned)s in look. |
| 20:31:42 | Lear | I was plannig on at least doing iram tweaks first (separate commit) and then render_point and perhaps render_line. |
| 20:32:01 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: i have updated the file |
| 20:32:13 | lostlogicx | Lear: rock on. |
| 20:32:19 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: does it reflect your idea |
| 20:32:22 | _FireFly_ | ? |
| 20:32:39 | Lear | Now, if we only could get someone to port the FFT patch... :) |
| 20:32:51 | _FireFly_ | Lear: FFT ?? |
| 20:33:20 | Lear | Using an (I?)FFT to do the IMDCT in Tremor. |
| 20:33:42 | lostlogicx | Lear: I think perplexity is working on that |
| 20:33:48 | _FireFly_ | this doesn*t say anything to me ;) |
| 20:33:51 | lostlogicx | and teaching GCC to automagically do some of the ASM stuff I've done. |
| 20:34:27 | mirak | Lear: ifft yes :) |
| 20:34:39 | lostlogicx | Fast Fourier Transform |
| 20:35:13 | mirak | the inverse one |
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| 20:35:18 | lostlogicx | Inverse Modified Discrete Cosine Transform |
| 20:35:26 | lostlogicx | I looked them up on google / wikipedia |
| 20:35:26 | lostlogicx | :-D |
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| 20:35:40 | mirak | fourier transform a wave to a spectrum |
| 20:35:50 | mirak | inverse do the opposite |
| 20:36:06 | ratpack91 | i always feel sorry for the cpu having to do DFTs. |
| 20:36:15 | mirak | maybe we could use the same |
| 20:36:22 | mirak | for all the codecs |
| 20:36:32 | lostlogicx | I think MAD already uses an FFT |
| 20:36:42 | mirak | optimised ? |
| 20:36:53 | mirak | lostlogicx: it's an ifft |
| 20:36:53 | mirak | :) |
| 20:37:19 | lostlogicx | don't know how optimized it is, but MAD is pretty fast... |
| 20:37:37 | mirak | mad is a mp3 codec ? |
| 20:37:37 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: ?? |
| 20:37:42 | lostlogicx | mirak: yeah |
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| 20:39:16 | Lear | On the lowmem branch of Tremor, the FFT patch speeds things up by about 30%, when run on a PC... |
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| 20:40:58 | lostlogicx | wow. That'd be impressive as hell. |
| 20:43:48 | lostlogicx | Lear: What makes that patch incompatible with Tremor in rockbox? |
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| 20:44:23 | * | amiconn takes a look at the design doc |
| 20:44:25 | Lear | The lowmem branch is quite different, in many ways... |
| 20:44:55 | Lear | It's not trivial to move it over at least; things about the windowing is different, for instance. |
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| 20:46:15 | * | _FireFly_ hopes the doc is written in a understandable way |
| 20:47:07 | amiconn | _FireFly_: Some details are missing, and some more details are tbd |
| 20:47:17 | _FireFly_ | tbd ?? |
| 20:47:22 | amiconn | to be determined |
| 20:48:09 | amiconn | One thing is that it should be made clear that there are 2 virtual pages, one for the 'classic' picker mode and one for morse input (which is actually only a help page) |
| 20:49:29 | _FireFly_ | i thought this makes it clear: "a page for latin-chars and morse-codes are builtin as the standard pages" |
| 20:49:40 | amiconn | The thing to be determined is whether the virtual page should be fixed both in X and Y dimension, or if it would be better to rewrap it to the display width, scrolling in Y direction only |
| 20:50:06 | _FireFly_ | yeah |
| 20:50:21 | amiconn | I would like to put latin and non-latin all into one page, and morse into the second |
| 20:50:39 | _FireFly_ | this is better ? "a page for latin-chars and a page for morse-codes are builtinas the standard pages" |
| 20:50:43 | amiconn | I tend to like the rewrap idea more, this would ease implementation on Ondio |
| 20:51:43 | amiconn | Then we could imagine the 2 virtual pages as being next to each other. Moving right from the picker page would switch to morse input, and moving left again would switch back |
| 20:52:01 | _FireFly_ | that can be easily be done to define the "len" var in the virtual-page struct to be the lcd-width |
| 20:52:55 | amiconn | We could even handle the line edit problem on Ondio the same way - moving left from the picker page or right from the morse page would switch to line mode. |
| 20:53:02 | amiconn | Up or Down could switch back |
| 20:53:17 | _FireFly_ | "There are two pages builtin on for the latin-chars and |
| 20:53:18 | _FireFly_ | one for the morse-code-input(currently only a help-screen)" |
| 20:53:22 | amiconn | All this could be indicated by a buttonbar-like indicator line |
| 20:54:15 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 20:55:55 | _FireFly_ | if the cursor is located either on the right side or the left side the page is switched |
| 20:56:15 | _FireFly_ | when pressing to the left or right depending on the current page |
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| 21:00:39 | amiconn | Yes, and for the Ondio there's a third 'page', the line edit mode |
| 21:02:03 | amiconn | The player should keep the line oriented layout, imho. This is better because (1) the picker can be only one line anyway and (2) there's '-' and '+' as the equivalent of LEFT and RIGHT, but no equivalent for UP and DOWN |
| 21:02:37 | _FireFly_ | should the third "page" for the ondio be reachable from both pages ?? |
| 21:03:39 | amiconn | I think it could work like this: (actually a ring) <->picker<->morse<->line edit<-> |
| 21:03:59 | _FireFly_ | or so |
| 21:04:03 | amiconn | Erm, slightly wrong |
| 21:04:23 | _FireFly_ | ah right |
| 21:04:35 | amiconn | <-picker-> <-morse-> ^-line edit-v |
| 21:04:39 | _FireFly_ | in line-edit mode you need to press UP or DOWN ;) |
| 21:06:47 | _FireFly_ | has the player also the morse-code-page ?? |
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| 21:07:21 | amiconn | Imho it should. Perhaps w/o help, just saying 'morse input' |
| 21:07:38 | _FireFly_ | and how to reach ?? |
| 21:09:11 | amiconn | Imho there are 2 options. Either we keep the current player keyboard, where ON switches between line edit and picker, and MENU flips through picker lines (currently 3) |
| 21:09:31 | amiconn | Then we could simply add morse input as a 4th 'picker line' |
| 21:09:53 | _FireFly_ | this option would be the easiest because this code needs not be rewritten to the new "design" |
| 21:10:47 | amiconn | Or we want unified code, then MENU could flip through modes (picker / morse/ line edit) and ON could scroll through lines in picker |
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| 21:12:36 | jlo | hi all |
| 21:12:42 | _FireFly_ | hi |
| 21:13:18 | dropandho | your work sounds perfect! |
| 21:13:40 | dropandho | is it hard to code? |
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| 21:15:16 | _FireFly_ | i have update the doc |
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| 21:21:49 | _FireFly_ | i think it doesn't really matter which option is used but the second option has mayby the advantage that the overall source-code size can be reduced a bit |
| 21:23:11 | San||Away | anyone working on a "top 25 played songs" for rockbox? |
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| 21:23:24 | _FireFly_ | for the second methode we could split the device-dependent code from the device-independent code which could reduce the usage of #ifdefs |
| 21:23:47 | petur | San: make that an audioscrobler plugin ;) |
| 21:23:56 | San | well, yes |
| 21:23:56 | San | :D |
| 21:24:00 | _FireFly_ | so that the independent keyboard code includes the device-dependent header |
| 21:24:09 | San | are they petur? |
| 21:24:21 | petur | ? |
| 21:24:33 | San | making it? I heard some about it but saw no progress |
| 21:24:43 | petur | no idea... |
| 21:24:54 | San | ok |
| 21:26:08 | petur | linuxstb: are you here? |
| 21:26:39 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: we could define some interface-functions e.g. get_next_page, handle_button, draw_picker, draw_edit_line |
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| 21:43:00 | * | petur thinks we should do something about the way multi-platform support is implemented |
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| 21:44:20 | petur | adding rtc for h3xx is going to be clumsy... |
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| 21:45:26 | petur | driver must be split just like LCD was... |
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| 21:46:39 | amiconn | petur: Isn't the driver already split? H3x0 RTC is part of PCF50606 iirc |
| 21:47:18 | * | petur goes looking |
| 21:48:05 | petur | nope, and it shouldn't... it only contains general access methods |
| 21:48:26 | petur | even my brightness stuff doesn't belong in there... |
| 21:49:16 | petur | reason: if it's register compatible with the PCF50605, that code can be shared... |
| 21:49:52 | petur | rtc was included in the pcf50605 driver... |
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| 21:51:22 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 21:51:29 | dupczas | hello |
| 21:51:40 | Jungti1234 | ;) |
| 21:52:07 | dupczas | cicho tu jakos |
| 21:53:27 | Jungti1234 | What mean is it? |
| 21:53:46 | dupczas | hmmmm i think that you understand polish |
| 21:53:48 | dupczas | i mean |
| 21:54:05 | Lear | Yay, finally found why mpa.codec handled bad files so badly. :) |
| 21:54:05 | dupczas | that is very quiet here |
| 21:54:17 | Jungti1234 | yes :) |
| 21:54:22 | Lear | Now I just need to figure out how to fix it wihtout borking the seeking. :) |
| 21:56:02 | Jungti1234 | sleep all? |
| 21:56:18 | dupczas | no ;) |
| 21:56:43 | dupczas | what time is it ?? |
| 21:56:43 | Jungti1234 | What time is there? |
| 21:56:47 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 21:56:48 | dupczas | hehe |
| 21:56:50 | Jungti1234 | 5:56 |
| 21:56:54 | Jungti1234 | am |
| 21:57:04 | dupczas | rotfl ! |
| 21:57:15 | dupczas | 9 57 pm ;) |
| 21:57:28 | dupczas | what you come from ? |
| 21:57:42 | Jungti1234 | Just because. |
| 21:58:01 | dupczas | ?? |
| 21:58:05 | Jungti1234 | -_-; |
| 21:58:14 | Jungti1234 | I don't understand. |
| 21:58:15 | dupczas | i don't get it ?? |
| 21:58:21 | dupczas | me too ;) |
| 21:58:34 | dupczas | where do you live ? |
| 21:58:44 | Jungti1234 | I live in South Korea. |
| 21:59:02 | dupczas | lol nice |
| 21:59:11 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 21:59:11 | jlo | hi preglow : did you have time to listen to files or think about shelving filters ? |
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| 22:00:23 | dupczas | everobody here lives in South Korea? |
| 22:01:12 | Jungti1234 | Only one . |
| 22:01:51 | Jungti1234 | But, Rockbox is many korean people. |
| 22:02:04 | _FireFly_ | dupczas: most are in europe |
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| 22:03:31 | Jungti1234 | dupczas: Where do you live? |
| 22:03:44 | dupczas | in Poland :) |
| 22:04:25 | Jungti1234 | ah. :) |
| 22:04:54 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dupczas |
| 22:04:54 | dupczas | •Jungti1234• you are female or male ? |
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| 22:05:16 | Lear | Ah, that looks promising... |
| 22:05:57 | Jungti1234 | I'm male |
| 22:06:05 | dupczas | hehe me too ;) |
| 22:06:15 | dupczas | ^_^ |
| 22:06:29 | Jungti1234 | Did you want that I'm female? |
| 22:07:20 | dupczas | ?? |
| 22:07:27 | Jungti1234 | hahaha. |
| 22:07:36 | Jungti1234 | Nothing. :) |
| 22:08:09 | petur | conversations sure have a high peak-to-peak value here ;) |
| 22:09:38 | jlo | goodnight |
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| 22:09:48 | Jungti1234 | I go to theater today. |
| 22:10:29 | | Part dupczas |
| 22:10:36 | Jungti1234 | bye~ |
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| 22:12:14 | Moos | Lear: what will? |
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| 22:13:39 | Moos | did you have discovered something? :) |
| 22:14:15 | Lear | The mpa codec fix. |
| 22:14:36 | Moos | Hooray! |
| 22:15:01 | Moos | you found one way for fix it? |
| 22:15:07 | Moos | already I mean |
| 22:15:53 | Lear | already? spent about two hours digging... |
| 22:16:25 | Moos | oops sorry :) |
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| 22:25:24 | linuxstb | petur: Have you seen this patch? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/h300-rtc.diff |
| 22:26:32 | linuxstb | That's basically all that's needed to enable the RTC on the h300. LinusN has seen it, but he said that the i2c commands to read the RTC need protecting from interrupts. |
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| 22:29:46 | petur | hmmm... and why don't the other I2C calls need protection from interrupts? |
| 22:29:54 | petur | look who's there ;) |
| 22:30:54 | amiconn | hi LinusN :) |
| 22:31:07 | LinusN | petur: the pcf50606 is used in the adc interrupt |
| 22:31:11 | LinusN | amiconn: hi |
| 22:31:45 | LinusN | so you have to protect all pcf50606 communication that can be interrupted by the adc (and button) interrupt |
| 22:31:56 | petur | ah ok |
| 22:32:45 | amiconn | LinusN: Two questions regarding H300 lcd: (1) Do you have an idea why lcd DMA interferes with recording? |
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| 22:32:58 | amiconn | Did you perhaps use the same DMA channel? |
| 22:33:01 | LinusN | amiconn: of course i have, it uses the same dma channel |
| 22:33:10 | amiconn | How many DMA channels are there? |
| 22:33:12 | LinusN | 2 |
| 22:33:20 | amiconn | Bah, not good :( |
| 22:33:25 | LinusN | not very |
| 22:33:33 | amiconn | The other is used for playback? |
| 22:33:36 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:33:56 | amiconn | Hmm. Why does the SH1 have 4 DMA channels, but the coldfire only has 2? :/ |
| 22:34:06 | LinusN | we could use the same for playback and recording |
| 22:34:07 | petur | can recording and playback not share a DMA channel? |
| 22:34:27 | LinusN | however, it might be nice to be able to play and record simultaneously |
| 22:34:32 | amiconn | (2) Do you think a non-DMA lcd driver that uses burst-reading would be as fast (or even faster) than your DMA version? |
| 22:34:37 | LinusN | especially for voice |
| 22:35:07 | amiconn | I still have no H300, hope to get one from ebay after xmas |
| 22:35:11 | petur | doesn't it use the same bus between controller and uda? |
| 22:35:19 | LinusN | amiconn: i don't think you can make it as fast |
| 22:35:30 | LinusN | but definitely faster than the current one |
| 22:35:42 | amiconn | Is it possible to write the GRAM backwards? |
| 22:35:49 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:35:56 | LinusN | i think so |
| 22:36:04 | amiconn | Good, that'll save some insns |
| 22:36:54 | amiconn | Burst-reading 4 longwords and then writing as 8 words is easier when starting with the low word of each longword |
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| 22:37:01 | LinusN | petur: there are different in and out busses |
| 22:37:06 | petur | btw, Linus, you probably saw my recording patch is ready :) |
| 22:37:20 | LinusN | petur: nice |
| 22:37:49 | petur | so we leave the dma alone for lcd then? |
| 22:37:56 | LinusN | i think so |
| 22:38:00 | LinusN | pity |
| 22:38:10 | LinusN | the 5250 has 4 channels :-) |
| 22:38:27 | LinusN | iaudio here i come |
| 22:38:35 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 22:38:47 | LinusN | too bad the 5250 data sheet pdf is corrupt... :-( |
| 22:38:57 | LinusN | or rather, the user's manual pdf |
| 22:39:17 | amiconn | movem.l and then 4x move.w / swap / move.w |
| 22:39:29 | petur | I do think that the number of times we'll need recording+voice is _far_ less than the times we want quick lcd updates... tradeoff? |
| 22:40:51 | Lear | blind users might not agree... |
| 22:41:00 | LinusN | petur: that depends on how much slower the lcd is |
| 22:41:11 | LinusN | we could change it dynamically |
| 22:41:19 | LinusN | use dma when not recording |
| 22:41:26 | amiconn | You said the DMA solution was 20% faster? |
| 22:41:33 | LinusN | something like that |
| 22:41:54 | petur | 40 -> 50 fps |
| 22:42:09 | LinusN | it could have been a lot faster if we could use burst accesses |
| 22:42:18 | LinusN | which we can't |
| 22:42:51 | LinusN | however, your solution can use bursts in dram, which the dam couldn't |
| 22:42:55 | LinusN | dma |
| 22:43:07 | lostlogicx | could the LCD DMA potentially have caused playing problems when playing music and disk reading? |
| 22:43:12 | LinusN | so your solution might be just as fast |
| 22:43:36 | LinusN | lostlogicx: i doubt it |
| 22:47:13 | lostlogicx | this is distressing. I'm getting strange semi-random freezes playing Kelly Clarkson - Thankful. I think my iRiver is telling me to listen to better music. |
| 22:47:36 | petur | :D |
| 22:47:53 | dropandho | FireFly- you workin away...is that why you got quiet? |
| 22:47:55 | lostlogicx | and it's not my hackage of Tremor that's causing it either, because I just reverted to a clean codebase. |
| 22:48:56 | _FireFly_ | dropandho: not really :) |
| 22:49:50 | dropandho | hehe- its ok! |
| 22:49:57 | dropandho | im just being nosey |
| 22:50:02 | dropandho | but it is all pretty exciting |
| 22:50:09 | dropandho | i appreciate your commitment to the remote issues! |
| 22:50:14 | _FireFly_ | LinusN: what do you think about this idea to make the vkeyboard multiscreen-capable: http://home.arcor.de/s.wezel/design-papers/rb-vkeyboard-design-paper.txt |
| 22:50:16 | amiconn | LinusN: Reading line-bursts from DRAM is 2.5 times as fast as reading longwords |
| 22:50:36 | amiconn | ...and even more compared to reading words |
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| 22:55:13 | amiconn | LinusN: H3x0 uses the 80-system 16bit interface? |
| 22:56:50 | Rob- | Hi, is it a known bug that the latest daily build won't record on h340? |
| 22:57:08 | petur | use the bleeding edge |
| 22:57:35 | Rob- | is it fixed now? |
| 22:57:40 | petur | yes |
| 22:58:03 | Rob- | I'll probably wait for the daily as I don't have a build environment setup. |
| 22:58:27 | _FireFly_ | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip |
| 22:58:32 | Rob- | thanks |
| 22:58:34 | _FireFly_ | no need for a build env |
| 22:58:49 | Rob- | oh:-) |
| 22:59:06 | _FireFly_ | after each cvs commit this build will be updated |
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| 23:00:09 | Rob- | excelent, thanks! |
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| 23:06:12 | petur | (iRiver) the two gain settings (recording settings, recording screen) are very confusing as one is the decimator, the other the analog gain. |
| 23:06:38 | petur | apart from the naming issue, shouldn't it be possible to change both from the recording screen? |
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| 23:11:51 | Paprica | mmmm |
| 23:11:54 | Paprica | http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump00412no.png |
| 23:11:59 | Paprica | what do you think? |
| 23:12:01 | Paprica | =] |
| 23:12:15 | mirak | hello ! hello !!! |
| 23:12:21 | petur | wow |
| 23:12:47 | Paprica | =] |
| 23:13:16 | Paprica | it will going out on some days |
| 23:13:28 | Paprica | few |
| 23:13:29 | Paprica | * |
| 23:13:31 | Paprica | =] |
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| 23:14:47 | _FireFly_ | LinusN: ? any commments about the idea? |
| 23:14:59 | dropandho | you scared him away! |
| 23:15:49 | _FireFly_ | mayby he is on the way to me to kick my ass into the space ;) |
| 23:16:08 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, it uses the 16-bit 80-system |
| 23:16:15 | _FireFly_ | s/mayby/maybe |
| 23:17:15 | LinusN | _FireFly_: looks much like the one recently discussed in this channel |
| 23:17:45 | LinusN | seems to be a good idea |
| 23:18:34 | _FireFly_ | yepp it is the idea from amiconn i have put it only into the file and added some suggestion how the data-struct good be defined |
| 23:19:19 | _FireFly_ | s/good/could |
| 23:20:16 | Lear | I hope my recent mpeg.c fix actually works. Can't test them in the simulator, and I have no SH1-compiler around at the moment... :) |
| 23:20:20 | amiconn | Haha, the H3x0 display controller offers an inverse display mode. Might look funny with complemented colours :) |
| 23:20:34 | amiconn | Flip display in hardware seems to be possible as well |
| 23:20:41 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:20:58 | LinusN | Paprica: cool |
| 23:21:08 | amiconn | Do we want 8 colour mode for speed? ;) |
| 23:21:10 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:21:10 | * | amiconn hides |
| 23:21:12 | LinusN | Paprica: i want it for h100 and archos as well .-) |
| 23:21:26 | LinusN | amiconn: 8-color mode doesn't give a speedup |
| 23:21:34 | LinusN | it's only a power saving mode |
| 23:21:55 | Paprica | let me finish it for h3xx first =] |
| 23:22:57 | amiconn | Ah I see. |
| 23:23:23 | _FireFly_ | LinusN: btw in the same dir is also a first attempt to define a token-based wps-handling |
| 23:25:49 | LinusN | _FireFly_: the wps paper doesn't mention what problem it attemps to solve |
| 23:27:23 | dropandho | but the real question is...does it solve it?! hehe |
| 23:28:51 | _FireFly_ | it doesn't attemps to solve any problems it is only an idea how the current wps-handling could be rewritten as someone in this channel had said that it should be rewritten |
| 23:29:25 | _FireFly_ | the idea was orginaly from TiMiD |
| 23:30:05 | LinusN | yes, it should be rewritten, but not just because we feel the need to rewrite something |
| 23:30:30 | _FireFly_ | yepp |
| 23:30:45 | LinusN | _FireFly_: btw, this kind of "papers" really belongs in the wiki |
| 23:31:00 | Bagder | indeed, as that make people actually discover them |
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| 23:33:32 | _FireFly_ | ok i will add these two ones to the wiki |
| 23:36:15 | petur | any dev with an H1xx willing to try the pre-recording patch? (just to be sure it also works ok on that one as well) |
| 23:36:24 | dropandho | thanks for the work tho! |
| 23:36:29 | dropandho | hope they didnt discourage u |
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| 23:40:09 | Paprica | LinusN, there is a option now to build a clock for h3xx? |
| 23:40:29 | petur | no |
| 23:40:38 | Paprica | ok =] |
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