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#rockbox log for 2005-12-24

00:00:57mirakBagder: When a variable is declared inside a function, the adress in ram is static once compiled right ?
00:01:17Bagderit is then allocated on the stack
00:01:19mirakyes it would not work for recursive stuff
00:02:01mirakok, so that variable if I want it to be used in iram must be declared outside of any function ?
00:02:15mirakor can gcc put the in a stack in iram ?
00:02:41Bagdergcc doesn't put stacks anywhere
00:02:47BagderRockbox does
00:03:27Bagderbut you should focus on putting the most used structs and data in iram
00:03:59Bagderand optimize the most used functions to use the EMAC
00:04:14mirakthere is an EMAC on H300 ?
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00:04:23mirakthat's a recent discover ?
00:04:24preglowits the same cpu as h120
00:04:29Bagdermirak: nopes
00:04:33Paul_The_NerdSo will video decoding be treated as a plugin, or as a codec?
00:04:50mirakthe goal is to do a codec
00:04:53linuxstbAFAIK the stacks are in IRAM already - so if there is space for local data in functions, leave it there.
00:05:18preglowcodec and playback stacks are in iram
00:05:27linuxstbBut not plugin stacks?
00:05:40preglowyes, i think they are
00:05:48amiconnPlugins run in the main thread
00:05:53preglowah, yes
00:05:55preglowand thats iram stack
00:06:00amiconn...and the main stack is in iram iirc
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00:06:46linuxstbSo the answer is yes - both plugin and codec stacks are in iram.
00:07:30mirakcheck that, line 15,16
00:08:20mirakhere is declared two matrix. This matrix are used to compute idct.
00:08:41mirakI think that if they were in iram it would give a significant boost
00:09:28miraknot only idct, but well that's where the most things happen I think
00:10:27mirakif it's aready in iram well that's horrible
00:11:21linuxstbYes, it looks like that is already in iram.
00:11:27miraka crap
00:11:43mirakman I am going to give up
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00:13:24miraklinuxstb: how to be sur it's really in iram ?
00:14:02preglowplugin stack is enough to accomodate xvid decode without any modification?
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00:14:28mirakI needed to increase PLUGIN_RAM at first
00:14:37mirakbut that's probably not what you are talking about
00:14:37preglowwell, yeah
00:14:43preglowbut not thread stack size
00:15:11mirakno I didn't changed anything else. And anyway now it fits in the standart PLUGIN_RAM
00:15:41mirakpreglow: in fact there is a part that is delcared dynamic
00:15:53preglowman, were going to have to reserve tons of ram for the various plugin types
00:16:05preglowlike input codec, output codec, video codec, regular plugins :>
00:16:07mirakall the dynamic allocations with malloc use a fake malloc that use the audio buffer
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00:17:33mirakpreglow: so you are 100% sure it already uses iram ?
00:17:47preglowyes, stack does that
00:17:54preglowbut that doesnt matter if you dont use the stack too much
00:19:00mirakwhat do you mean ?
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00:25:21mirakpreglow: what did you ment ?
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00:25:56preglowwhat is unclear?
00:26:05preglowdo you know what a stack is?
00:27:01preglowwell, then what do i say thats unclear?
00:27:06linuxstbpreglow: What do you mean by input/output codecs?
00:27:16preglowlinuxstb: playback vs recording
00:27:20mirakwhen you enter a block and declare a variable, it's put on the stack
00:27:27preglowmirak: correct
00:27:30mirakwhen you exit that block you unstack
00:27:39mirakthis allow recursivity
00:28:49mirakI did that in univ in assembly for hackerman function and probably n!
00:29:04mirakI don't remember the target processor
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00:29:40mirakit was fun ^^
00:29:55mirak<preglow> but that doesnt matter if you dont use the stack too much
00:30:14linuxstbmirak: Does your plugin compile cleanly now? i.e. without any compiler warnings?
00:30:32miraklinuxstb: no, I did not tried to fix things
00:30:45mirakthere is warnings I don't understand
00:31:23miraklinuxstb: I removed some warning by just remove useless code though
00:32:12mirakbeside doing idct.c in assembly, I don't see where we really can get a significant boost
00:32:16linuxstbDoes it actually display the decoded images onscreen?
00:32:43mirakbut there is something wrong with image quality
00:33:14mirakit probably have to do with the converters to rgb565 because the saved pictures are fine
00:33:38linuxstbCan you upload your latest version somewhere? I would like to try it on the ipod.
00:33:47mirakI think it's on the tracker
00:34:46mirak xvid_plug-0.2.tar.bz2
00:37:47miraklinuxstb: how is it going ?
00:38:40linuxstbI just need to encode a 220x176 xvid first...
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00:39:39mirakyou can use iriverter I guess you know it
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00:40:14linuxstbIt's OK, I'll just use ffmpeg
00:40:37mirakjust extract a minute
00:41:54mirakiit would take 12 minutes to play it :)
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00:49:56miraklinuxstb: what's up ?
00:52:13linuxstbApart from the fact it doesn't compile?
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00:54:28miraklinuxstb: maybe you will have a problem with vsnorintf
00:54:45mirakIi added it to my plugin api
00:54:59linuxstbI've fixed that - I just removed that whole image_printf function.
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00:55:15linuxstb(and the two places it is used in decoder.c)
00:55:22miraklinuxstb: mmm there is the bigendian stuff
00:55:30mirakI passed the argument to the make
00:55:35linuxstbYes, I've changed that.
00:55:46mirakwhat's your error ?
00:55:46linuxstbIt's now complaining about a memcpy in mbtransquant.c
00:57:15miraklinuxstb: and there is no memcpy in that file
00:57:42mirakI had this error when he was initialising an arrat with = { 0 }
00:58:07mirakbut that's probably different error here
00:58:47linuxstbYes, that was the problem.
00:58:52linuxstbAnyway, it's compiled now...
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01:00:14linuxstbIt seems to decode one frame, not display it and then crash.
01:03:30linuxstbUnless I'm misreading your code, you are using XVID_CSP_RGB555 - you should be using XVID_CSP_RGB565
01:04:36mirakif (rb->strcmp(colors, "rgb16") == 0) {
01:04:36mirak CSP = XVID_CSP_RGB565;
01:05:05mirakare you sure you downloaded the good one ?
01:06:07linuxstbNo :)
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01:06:22linuxstbI downloaded the correct one, but still had the old version on my disk, and used that...
01:06:32linuxstbI'll start again.
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01:12:00linuxstbThis version displays the first image and then crashes...
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01:15:45linuxstbBut the decoded image looks good to me (after I byte-swapped it for the ipod).
01:17:37mirakthe decoded image is fine for me too, but the dark part aren't as smooth
01:18:09miraklinuxstb: chechk the button exit code
01:19:31linuxstbWhat do you mean?
01:22:15mirakyou can exit with the left arrow
01:22:27mirakmaybe it doesn't exist on the ipod ?
01:22:48linuxstbIt does exist - but it doesn't work. It just freezes after decoding the first frame.
01:24:35mirakok then maybe you should enable my ubber debug mode
01:24:49mirakno just disable write to lcd screen
01:25:11mirakand in rb_api.c
01:25:20mirakrb->lcd_puts(0, line, txt_buf);
01:25:24mirakdecomment that
01:25:40mirakin write_text()
01:25:54mirakmaybe it will tell you a bit more
01:26:12mirakbut anyway it needs to be redone cleanly
01:26:25mirakand implement debuging stuff the right way
01:28:06miraklinuxstb: you resolved that crash
01:28:16mirakmaybe you need to check the portab.h file
01:29:06mirakif you didn't checked that yet
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01:31:37mirakbonne nuit les petits
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01:38:40Moostime to sleep here too, good night @ all
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01:39:54preglowsleepy time, later
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02:18:08Jungti1234hey all
02:18:20Jungti1234good news
02:20:03Jungti1234It's rockviewer that Korean does fix.
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03:31:17Jungti1234A little complicate.
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06:39:50EWilliamshello all, newbie here: just installed rockbox on H340 and I am in SERIOUS need of basic instructions. I don't eben know how to boot to iriver instead of rockbox, although i remember reading it is possible. Could someone please point me to a Rockbox beginner friendly FAQ Thanks!
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08:54:25bazzwould people like a zoom factor option for the simulator, like you could zoom it by 1.4 or something, or is just normal or double size good enough?
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09:18:35webguest72bazz: I doubt people need uneven zoom-factors. 1:1 and 1:2 sounds good enough
09:19:00webguest72At least I'd be happy with that
09:20:11bazzmmm, okay
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09:25:07Soul-Eyo yo
09:25:31webguest72Not that my opinion matters in the least. Just thought I'd pop in
09:25:58webguest72Perhaps WPS designers would like a 1:3 or 1:4
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09:29:27bazzokay, that wouldn't be too hard, as long as it was all interger multiples
09:31:13webguest72I think that's the most useful way to do it anyway
09:31:26webguest72You'd want to accurately see the pixels I'd think
09:31:30webguest72if you're zooming
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09:34:02bazzprobably yeah
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09:55:45eli_shererhello everybody got my tetrox fully working!!!!
09:57:12webguest72Now for a h1x0 version!
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09:57:50eli_shererno but i'm working on it...tahat's because i dont have an h1x0
09:58:25eli_shererthat means i need to make 2 rocks...
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09:59:51webguest72Why 2?
10:02:22eli_shererbecause it's not in the cvs...
10:02:37eli_shereri can make support for the h120 but i wont compile it...
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10:03:13eli_shererthe rock file suits only he player it was compiled to...
10:07:30webguest72I thought you meant two source-files
10:07:47webguest72Also, why won't you compile a h120 version? You already have the tools necessary
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10:15:19eli_shereri guess..
10:15:53eli_shererlets try...i just optimized the same source to work on the h1x0 as well...
10:16:47eli_shererwhats the difference between H120,H140 and iHP100/iHP-110/iHP-115 ???
10:17:29mozettii'm pretty sure it's the HDD size - 10/15/20/240
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10:17:53mozettithough I have to admit I've never heard of a iHP115
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10:18:09eli_shereri checked it and they are the same they just have different compilings...
10:18:22eli_shererill make H120,H140
10:18:47eli_sherernow im's gonna take some while...
10:19:29eli_shererwebguest72: who are you if i may?
10:22:18webguest72I'm not really anyone
10:22:50webguest72Not anyone that you'd know, I don't post anywhere or anything
10:22:57webguest72Just follow Rockbox from afar
10:23:45eli_shererwell i made a rock for the do you want to try it?
10:24:23webguest72Sure, can I download it from anywhere?
10:25:16eli_shererill upload it to my site
10:25:25webguest72Also, the ihp100, 110 and 115 have 16mb ram but nothing that plugins should worry about
10:25:31amiconneli_sherer: The H100/H110 only have 16MB RAM, and of course the disk size is different
10:26:03eli_shereramiconn: but if i compiled the plugin to work on h120 would it work on an h110?
10:26:20amiconnYou need to compile separately
10:26:34eli_shereri thought so...
10:26:56amiconnThe plugin area is at the end of RAM, and since the RAM sizes are different, the plugin area address is different too
10:27:06eli_sherereventually the solution to the poblem will to add it to the cvs...
10:29:09eli_shererwebguest72: d/l it from here [eli_sherer/]!">]!
10:30:17webguest72"We are sorry, this page was not found. Please check the URL and try again."
10:31:30eli_shererthe mirc adds the ]! by mistake..
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10:34:35eli_shererwebguest72: I would appreciate some feedback when you get it going...
10:35:20webguest72It works
10:35:27webguest72But... the screen is not large enough
10:38:33eli_shererwhat do you mean?
10:39:04eli_shererH120 has a smaller screen????
10:40:03eli_shereroh no 160x128...didn't thought of that..
10:44:05webguest72But it did in fact work, other than that
10:44:15webguest72Time to break out LCD_WIDTH and LCD_HEIGHT I guess
10:46:52Papricacan you help for a moment?
10:50:32Papricamm ok in private? (for speak hebrew)
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11:05:38eli_shererand i just fixed the h1x0..
11:07:44eli_shereranybody with an H120 or H140???
11:08:40eli_sherercan you help me test my tetris port for the h1x0?
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11:08:54Maximeyeah if u want
11:09:44eli_shererin a couple of seconds ill upload the file to my site
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11:15:43eli_sherercan you dl it now from eli_sherer/">
11:17:34Maximew8 i have to upgrade rockbox ^^
11:18:21Maxime(more than a week..)
11:19:35Maximegreat ^^
11:19:59Maximeit works
11:20:09eli_shererbut does it work well?
11:20:46Maximea bug
11:20:50Maximewith a 4 squares
11:20:58Maximeif you flip it when you are low
11:21:04Maximeit becomes 3 squares long
11:23:01Maximeyou see?
11:23:17Maximewhen you approach the bottom like this ____
11:23:28Maximeand when you flip it, you have only 2-3 squares left
11:25:01eli_shereri really don't know what is the cause of
11:25:33eli_shererand by the way all the figures are 4 squares thats why it called tetrominoes...
11:26:07Maximeyes i meant the 4 squares in line
11:26:10Maximethe long bar
11:27:08Maximein all the tetris games, if you approach the botton, you can't flip it anymore
11:27:10Maximein yours, you can
11:27:12Maximeso it's buggy
11:27:24eli_shereryour absolutly right it happens on the color version too
11:28:59eli_shererfixed it right now...there was an error in my code 10q for noticing...
11:29:00Maximeand, you may add the abiliy to restart the game without restarting the plugin?
11:29:19eli_sherermaybe record button??
11:29:41eli_shereror play...i think play is best
11:29:49Maximeor a menu, just don't quit the plugin..
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11:36:48eli_shereripod has only 7 buttons while h300 has 9 lol
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12:06:21eli_shererand again i had another bug (concerning game over)
12:07:00eli_shererand it is even optimised the code a little bit
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12:54:06eli_shererjungti1234: hello
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13:41:11MoosHello everyone, Happy Christmas to all
13:43:06nathanhmerciful saturnia to all pagan fellows
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14:08:47Mooselisherer: Hi, is your plugin working for h120 build somewhere please?
14:08:58MoosI want to test it
14:10:17Moostetrox I mean soory
14:10:32DBUGEnqueued KICK Paprica
14:10:32PapricaMoos - eli_sherer/">
14:10:48Mad_Big_Sausagehere you go: eli_sherer/">
14:10:49Moosthanks Paprica
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14:13:12Moosit looks good
14:13:31Moosjust a litle big for h1xx screen but good
14:14:36CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
14:14:36*Moos is playing a bit tetrox, long time he didn't play Tetris
14:16:02MoosPaprica: how goes your plugin?
14:16:48Papricawe have levels =]
14:17:39Papricanow im working on diffrent color for the bricks
14:18:29Moosdoes it work already for other irivers?
14:18:53Papricaonly for h3xx now
14:19:26Moosyou want to do it full working for h3xx first? :)
14:20:25MoosI'm agree with one post in forum you pointed to me, arkanoïne is one fundamental game
14:21:06Mooshey, it looks fine
14:21:13muesli__kewl Paprica :)
14:21:29muesli__cross my fingers i'll get my h3xx still today
14:21:31MoosPaprica: how many different levels currently?
14:21:42Moosmuesli: Hello
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14:21:54muesli__hossa Moos :)
14:22:05MoosPaprica: 11 levels
14:22:29muesli__mmh okay
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14:23:21Moosmuesli: Ronnaldihno n┬░1 ;)
14:23:46muesli__but he is not french...whatst the point? ;)
14:24:15Moosno he is, but he played here in Paris
14:24:33Moosis one "god"
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14:25:25MoosHenry don't have the level for golden ball or much
14:25:36MoosZizou have but a bit old now :)
14:25:49muesli__henry will sort it
14:26:08MoosHenry will maybe go to Barcelona
14:26:30Moosand don't play much then
14:27:01muesli__guess its time for a change..he spend quite long time in london, isnt he?
14:27:54Moosyes I'm agreed too, but he will can't make a lot of goals like like in England, Spain or Italia is one other thing
14:28:34*Moos acknowledge he don't like much Henry :)
14:29:41*Moos prefer players like Ronaldo,Shevchenko... instead of
14:30:26*Moos is just noticed he is speaking on the rockbox chanel, not soccer one :D
14:30:32Moossorry folks
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14:35:01Mooslunch time
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14:37:34mirakMoos: you don't like Henry ?
14:37:40mirakshame on you !!!
14:37:52mirakhe maybe have the melon a bit
14:38:17MoosI don't like him, he is usurper
14:38:23Moosyes a bi melon
14:38:29Moos1 past├Ęque :D
14:39:12Mooshe is fast, nothing much ;)
14:39:23mirakhe don't score enough for us
14:39:47Moosin England make goal is easy
14:40:05*Moos remenbering Anelka
14:40:09mirakfrench championship sucks
14:40:17mirakI prefer basketball anyway
14:40:58MoosI prefer Italia and Spain championship
14:41:39Moosthe french basketball championship sucks too :)
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14:43:10]RowaN[guys is there a way to actaully apply replaygain normalisationg to wav files, so that a cd can be burned where all the tracks are the same volume?
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14:43:29]RowaN[normalisationg is a new word i just made up, it means normalising
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14:44:46Moosdid you try foobar 2k?
14:45:04]RowaN[i have it installed, i didnt know it could write onto cds?
14:45:51]RowaN[or does it have a wav out feature like winamp?
14:45:53Moosthe infos are in meta datas area, I supose when you burn, you burn all infos too
14:46:31Moossorry I don't burn a lot, can't help a lot :(
14:46:41]RowaN[a normal cd player will not make use of the replaygain metadata.. i want to use replaygain metadata to normalise the wavs before i write them to cd
14:47:15]RowaN[in the same way that mp3gain alters the volume of a mp3 i guess?
14:47:25Moosis one riper software option me think
14:48:21]RowaN[lets see if mp3 gain can alter wav files..
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14:48:56Moosold version of mp3 gain altered song, yes
14:49:17Moosnow it use tag too(APE┬░
14:50:13]RowaN[hmm doesnt seem to support wav files anyway
14:50:36]RowaN[i bet will have no help lol
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14:52:02]RowaN["Load up your flac files in Foobar and convert with the Diskwriter module, but leave "Use ReplayGain" checked"
14:52:43]RowaN["Or, even easier for your task, use Burrrn! 1.14 beta2 (a very stable beta, available here). With it you can select wether burn with "album gain", "track gain" or none"
14:52:51MoosLunch time for me good luck RowaN
14:52:57]RowaN[i bet burrrn doesnt support cd-text =]
14:53:08]RowaN["You can burn using staright from foobar using the Nero engine, with or without ReplayGain. The component is called foo_burninate"
15:11:01SlasheriHmm, i think now the tag cache should be at the stage that somebody interested with an archos device could try to compile and make it working for archoses :)
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15:27:27mirakMoos: yeah it sucks
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15:57:37Jungti1234Merry Christmas!
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16:04:11Jungti1234hey eh
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16:08:07MoosJungti: Happy Christmas to you too
16:09:24Jungti1234:) Thanks
16:22:57preglowyes, agreed
16:23:11preglowhave nice evening, folks, i'm out
16:23:30Moosbye preglow have fun
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16:52:38Jungti1234good night
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17:28:55eli_sherernew URL for the plugins everybody...
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17:34:50Mooseli_sherer: maybe you could create a link somwhere in the wiki, or one new page
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17:41:15eli_shererMoos: I dont see where it would fit...
17:41:39Moosmaybe in the plugin page?
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17:44:37eli_shererMoos: here u go...
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17:45:02Moosgoodie :)
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17:45:55MoosHello t0mas
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17:59:07mozettihaha, first time i was wished "merry xmas" from an irc server ;)
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18:01:35t0maswrong channel
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19:57:10Papricasomeone know how to edit the main menu?
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20:23:12bagawkPaprica: edit apps/main_menu.c
20:23:52Papricayou know where #define PLUGIN_DIR ...
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20:24:04bagawkI think apps/tree.c
20:25:01bagawkOne sec
20:25:54bagawkI do not have the source tree to search
20:26:19bagawkIf you are using linux or cygwin you can just run grep -i -E '#define PLUGIN_DIR' rockbox -R
20:27:58bagawkIt is in apps/settings.h
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20:34:00bagawkPaprica: What is meant by that (and 10x?)
20:34:21Papricathank u
20:37:03*bagawk just made a mistake
20:37:11bagawkrm * .c
20:37:19bagawkI did nopt mean to put a space!
20:37:24Papricayippee! i have games in the menu=]
20:37:36bagawkLucky not much was in the directory
20:38:00bagawkPaprica: I bet that makes it quicker than sorting through the plugins
20:38:38Papricamm i just check it on the simulator
20:38:50Papricanow i compile it for the iriver
20:40:50*bagawk does not know the keys for the iriver sim
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20:55:02Papricahe isnt here
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22:08:24PapricaSan||Away: you build some plugin?
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23:52:36andrewmelhi all
23:52:51andrewmelwondering if anybody can teach me how to install a patch?
23:53:14nathanhpatch -p0 -s −−dry-run < foo.patch
23:53:21nathanhif that doesnt complain, remove the −−dry-run and try again
23:56:19andrewmelcheers for that, but it is looking a bit complicated for me at the moment, not the thing to wrap my head around on xmas morning :)

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