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#rockbox log for 2005-12-30

00:00:54Misfit34i cant wait lol
00:01:28markunMe neither :)
00:01:40Misfit34you bought one or was it donated
00:01:45markunDid you try the test script?
00:01:58Misfit34no not yet
00:02:09Misfit34i dont have it with me
00:02:20markunIt was partly financed by the kind donaters of rockbox
00:02:33Misfit34cool 40 gig?
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00:04:21markunYes, I decided on the F40
00:04:39markunGot money for a F10 and payed the rest myself
00:04:43markunA fair deal
00:05:13Misfit34i wonder why some of my songs sound scrached
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00:05:48markunProbably because of clipping..
00:09:38markunDo you files sound ok on your computer?
00:10:22Misfit34they should its a new cd i just opend it and popped it in let me check to make sure
00:10:47markunI think some gigabeat owners will be disapointed by the minimalistic interface of rockbox..
00:11:16markunBut rockbox is more about functionality than a fancy UI
00:11:21Misfit34ehh well they dont have to use it
00:11:27markunNo, they don't
00:11:52markunand there is no wma decoder yet, but we support many other formats.
00:12:09markunAnd have nice plugins, games for example, and a video player is being worked on.
00:12:32Misfit34i would love for the gigabeat to have a video player
00:12:57Misfit34i mean we could have dozens of videos on it and still have tons of music
00:13:30markunI'm looking forward to watching futurama episodes in the train :)
00:13:36San|why cant you do that on the iRIver/
00:13:56markunCan't do what? Play videos?
00:13:58Misfit34:D i only watch that show because of bender
00:14:52markunSan| ?
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00:15:55San|[23:12] <Misfit34> i mean we could have dozens of videos on it and still have tons of music <−−- Thats the same as the iRiver
00:15:59ashridahaddress 0x100183a8 of /home/ashridah/rb/src/cvs/rockbox/firm/apps/codecs/vorbis.elf section .iram is not within region PLUGIN_IRAM
00:16:23ashridahcvs broken atm? :)
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00:17:35LeperkawnAny update on the rockbox ipod port?
00:17:36markunSan|: he doesn't have a iriver.. but if he had he could
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00:18:07markunwelcome back Moos
00:18:09stripwaxso i think I know why Auto Change Directory is broken. It looks in the 'current directory' first.
00:18:36Misfit34hey markun i checked and the music on my computer and it dosent sound like that
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00:19:39LeperkawnHas there been any recent updates on the iPod rockbox effort?
00:19:48stripwaxNormally, while just playing music, the current directory is the directory containing the current playing track. but while viewing something like the Browse Plugins tree, or while actually running a plugin, the current directory (in the tree context, currdir) is something like /.rockbox/rocks . So 'auto change directory' tries to find the next music track in a subdir of .rockbox (and fails, obviously). I'd imagine if I put mus
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00:20:55markunMisfit34: you could lower the volume of a file with mp3gain to see if that makes a difference.
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00:21:10ashridahLeperkawn: best to watch CVS to get an idea on that
00:21:13Misfit34on the gigabeat or mp3
00:21:22ashridahand/or the wiki
00:21:29stripwaxsolution might be to 'change directory' inside of playlist_next. not sure. this tree context is new to me.
00:24:48stripwaxok so it doesn't autoplay .rockbox/zzz .. but it definitely tries looking there which is sorta insane.
00:25:05markunMisfit34: change the gain of the mp3
00:25:15Misfit34lol u lost me
00:25:20markunthen transfer it to the gigabeat
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00:26:22Misfit34ok gimmie a sec
00:27:15Misfit34its not a mp3 its a wma format
00:28:08markunThen I don't know..
00:28:30Misfit34lol hmm let me try something else
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00:34:36Misfit34so do you think that video will be possible on the gigabeat
00:34:46markunYes, it will
00:35:27markunmirak made a simple xvid player. It decodes at 2fps on the H300 without sound, but I'm sure it can be improved a lot.
00:35:48Misfit34sounds good
00:36:03Misfit34almost anything is better than this
00:36:30markunWell, you will not be able to play back your wma files..
00:36:56Misfit34only mp3 format
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00:38:53markunMisfit34: no, also ogg, flac, wav, wv, mpc..
00:39:55Misfit34so we wont be able ot play any of those
00:40:21markunwe will
00:40:49markunAlso you get to play nice games when you are feeling bored :)
00:41:11Misfit34:-) i am always bored
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00:41:47Misfit34ok now i transfed the cd using the gigaroom and it still dose the skipping but not as much
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00:45:36Misfit34the simpsons are boring today
00:47:24Misfit34to mee it seems like homer got even more stupid over the years
00:50:29Misfit34murkun are you working on it now ...
00:52:27markunyes, I read /proc/cpuinfo to find out a which speed the CPU runs. It only told me 146 bogomips.
00:53:35markunDon't know how fast that is
00:54:05Misfit34me either
00:54:26Misfit34stupid toshiba cant update their firmware
00:56:24Misfit34BogoMips (from "bogus" and MIPS) are an unscientific measurement of CPU speed made by the Linux kernel when it boots, to calibrate an internal busy-loop. An oft-quoted definition of the term is "the number of million times per second a processor can do absolutely nothing".
00:56:24Misfit34As a very approximate guide, the BogoMips can be pre-calculated by the following details:
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00:59:01markunMisfit34: don't flood the channel :)
00:59:08Misfit34my badd
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01:13:22Moosoops wrong windows
01:13:29Mooshave a good night at all
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02:28:35aegray__which codecs did you guys use from libavcodec?
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02:52:05aliaskAfternoon everyone
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04:33:46saa[b_r]iderhello jungti
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05:05:29saa[b_r]iderdo you have an LCD remote?
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05:11:18Jungti1234I have only non-LCD remote
05:14:31saa[b_r]iderI wanted to know if you use the LCD remote patch
05:15:23Jungti1234I have patch
05:16:08saa[b_r]iderfor the non-LCD remote?
05:17:13Jungti1234There is blog that takka that is Japan makes.
05:17:35Jungti1234It's there remote patch.
05:18:15saa[b_r]iderfor which remote is it?
05:18:53aliaskH300 by the looks
05:20:14saa[b_r]ideraliask: the H300 has an LCD remote, and a non-LCD remote ;)
05:20:40aliaskOh sorry I misunderstood your question.
05:20:51aliaskThere isn't any mention of the LCD one though.
05:22:15Jungti1234There isn't any mention.
05:26:35aliaskMy headphones broke :(
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06:34:45Jungti1234oh -_-
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09:19:05Azraakhey all. Are h300 bug reports welcome here from users or should they wait until the code is more mature?
09:19:43ashridahdepends. does it come with a patch? :)
09:20:39Azraak<laugh> No, unfortunately. I might manage that as I get more familiar with the code, though.
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09:26:21ab0okusing rockbox since now one year i still wonder if there is a way to pitch my mp3 on my jukebox 6000 player (not recorder model) thx :x
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09:31:39amiconnab0ok: No, sorry. The MAS3507 used in the player models doesn't allow the trick that we use to pitch playback on the recorders
09:32:55ab0okthx a lot amiconn i wasn't sure :)
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10:21:39AzraakIriver h300. Trying to work out why rockbox can speak with voicebox/voice UI while playing an audio file, yet it can't do it while audio is paused. talk.c uses mp3_play_* functions in firmware/mp3_playback.c, yet I don't follow - on software codec players like Iriver, is the talk clip and audio playback separated somehow?
10:23:38Azraakaudio file playback that is
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10:39:44amiconnAzraak: Imho your best option is to ask Slasheri, he adapted the voice UI to the swcodec playback engine.
10:40:19amiconnThe voice playback uses a separate codec thread with on-the-fly swapping of the code+data part in IRAM
10:40:54amiconnThere are more problems than just the non-working voice in pause mode
10:41:59amiconnWhen moving through the menu, new item clips are supposed to interrupt the old ones. This doesn't work on iriver
10:42:09Azraakyeah, I've noticed that one as well
10:42:24Azraakassume people are very much aware of these issues already then
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10:42:46AzraakI was very impressed to see it talking while playing audio though
10:42:53Azraakhear, rather :)
10:43:13amiconnAnother strange effect that I observed is that when you have file voicing on (I have set it to numbers in my car profile) and you start playing a file, the file (number) is voiced again "over" the beginning of the track - but stuttering
10:43:34Azraakyup, seen that one also
10:43:41AzraakI have file voicing disabled altogether atm
10:43:46amiconnThat isn't supposed to happen
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10:44:48AzraakOne thought i had was also that there should be an ability to set ".talk mp3 clip/spell" for both files and directories; i.e. talk a clip or spell if none exists. Maybe I will write a patch some day, but my understanding of the code is almost non-existent right now
10:46:35Azraakright now, if clip does not exist, it spells for files and speaks number for dirs, or perhaps the other way around (can't remember which)
10:46:40amiconnThe voice UI resorts to using numbers if no .talk clip is present
10:47:05Azraak<nod> just reckon it'd be good to resort to spelling for some users, though it should of course be configurable
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10:54:48Learmarkun: what exactly did you change in those fonts? :)
10:55:00Lear(Just curious...)
10:55:43markunThe former 'default glyph' (the one that is used to display unknown chars) was just space
10:56:19markunSo you couldn't see anything when selecting for example a greek language file
10:56:39markunNow you will see a little dashed boxed (unless I did something wrong)
10:57:00LearBut when I try to diff it, if finds no difference (same as web cvs), and there were no message about it on the cvs mailing list... Hence my question.
10:57:10markunHm, strange, no changes! :)
10:57:15markunLet me do that again..
11:03:31markunLear: ok, thanks man :) I've committed the right files now
11:04:14markunI think the previous commit only changed the newlines from dos to unix
11:08:55Papricammm someone have idea for rockbox app?
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11:39:28markunPaprica: you feel bored?
11:46:45markunMaybe you can work on one of my wishes :)
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11:48:14markunThe Flite text-to-speech app for example
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13:02:02Jungti1234hi all...
13:02:11markungood evening! :)
13:02:23Jungti1234hi markun..
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13:02:57markunipod nano-video?
13:03:38Jungti1234not nano
13:05:54Jungti1234but that's only design.
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13:07:22Jungti1234I spoke over the telephone with iriver official during 2 hours today.
13:08:11Jungti1234It makes me tiredly.
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13:19:17sbingnerheh somebody at voipjet made an error on percentage calculations... oops :b
13:19:28sbingnerwrong channel, yay
13:23:25saab_riderhi jungti, were you having a problem with your player?
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13:28:21Jungti1234iriver is problem.
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13:38:18Jungti1234They do not admit mistake.
13:39:49Azraakwhat happened in your case?
13:46:15Jungti1234They gave old-fashioned case though they have new style case.
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13:50:50Jungti1234And there is problem in LCD's angle of vision.
13:51:27Jungti1234But, they speak that there is no problem.
13:52:32Jungti1234That can use game function, spoke but wasn't so.
13:52:57Jungti1234They lie.
13:53:28Jungti1234I like rockbox.
13:54:12Jungti1234Iriver is difficult situation.
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15:05:10aliaskIs there a way to clear the playlist?
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15:14:13markunaliask: press stop?
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15:15:12aliaskNo, for example, say you have a playlist of 10 songs already, and you want to make a new custom playlist from scratch.
15:15:41aliaskSay, add all songs into a giant playlist. If you just add the songs, you get duplicate entries.
15:17:15markunIf you stop playback and add the new files you'll get a new playlist, right?
15:29:48aliaskLet me check.
15:30:06_FireFly_markun: yepp you will get a new clean playlist
15:30:26_FireFly_afaik when stopping playback the current playlist is deleted
15:30:50aliaskIf that's the case, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
15:31:18markunSo why did you say "no" then :)
15:32:23aliaskBecause I thought you misunderstood me, but now I see that it was I that misunderstood you.
15:32:55aliaskAnyway, problem solved. markun 1 : aliask 0
15:33:19markunnah, let's keep it at 0 0
15:33:45aliaskI'm happy with that :)
15:35:05markunHey linuxstb, where are you?
15:35:41_FireFly_not here at the moment ;)
15:36:40markunHe might have some ideas what I could do next with my gigabeat.. I'm a bit lost right now.
15:37:05aliaskHey markun, that flite speech synthesis thing looks like it was made to be used in rockbox, has anyone had a look at it?
15:37:40markunnot really I think
15:37:54markunI compiled it on my computer and it sounds quite ok.
15:38:28markunIt uses a 8kHz voice by default, but there is also a 16kHz one which sounds a lot better.
15:38:33aliaskI was actually expecting it to be pretty bad, because of the optimisations...
15:39:07markunI didn't notice much differences between flite and festival.
15:39:17markunMaybe some words were pronounced a bit strange.
15:40:14markunI wonder is we should have it as a plugin, or as a real audio codec.
15:40:27markunA bit strange to put txt files in your playlist :)
15:40:58markunBut rewind, fast forward and bookmarkin would be nice features
15:41:15aliaskI think it might be implemented like the current voicing, and just be a transparent function to be called.
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15:47:26markunbut using flite to read text files is also nice, not only readig file names.
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15:56:32aliaskGood point, saves space on audio books :)
16:00:32markunWould you like to work on a flite plugin?
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16:09:10aliaskI lack the experience, and looking at the source scares the hell out of me.
16:09:50aliaskI don't know what needs to be changed for a platform like a h300 or whatever...
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16:27:30markunWow, there was a new release of flite not long ago (after more than 2.5 years)
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16:38:24Jungti1234how are you? :)
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16:45:04linuxstbmarkun: How's the gigabeat going?
16:45:43markunlinuxstb: didn't find out much more. Did some test with a USB ethernet controller, but couldn't get it to work.
16:45:55markunMaybe the controller is not supported by the pegasus driver.
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16:46:53markunI have some better results with extracting the boot graphics:
16:46:57linuxstbI don't think there's much more you can do unless you manage to get the uclinux cross-compiler working.
16:47:35markunI think they don't use uclinux, do they?
16:48:09linuxstbI just assumed they did.
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16:51:12linuxstbDoes that mean your ARM has an MMU?
16:51:25markunYes, I think it has. Let me check.
16:53:12markun"The ARM920T implements MMU ..."
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16:55:14markunlinuxstb: btw, I still didn't find anything about IRAM or SRAM, only the 16KB datacache and 16KB codecache
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17:01:35linuxstbNo, it looks like it doesn't have any iram. That branch to 0x4000000 that I saw in the from.bin could well indicate that the normal RAM is mapped to that address.
17:03:41markunlinuxstb: Would it be easy for you to find out how all the parts (like the usb ata bridge for example) are connected to the CPU from looking at the device drivers?
17:04:22linuxstbNot really.
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17:06:28markunIt's impossible to trace without removing the CPU
17:11:51linuxstbI'm sure it's possible to do by reverse-engineering the drivers, it's just not something I have any experience of.
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18:08:13nico_hello everybody !
18:08:49nico_i am a new user of rockbox on iRiver h120
18:09:42nico_This is a very beautiful and useful software
18:10:36nico_i would like to try writting some patch so i am reading documentations
18:11:16nico_it seems that the uisimilator only works with archos target ?
18:12:02nico_can we use it with a binary for h120 ?
18:12:18rayoit should work with every target
18:12:55nico_ok cool, thx
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18:22:18^BeN^im fine =]
18:22:42Sangood, good..
18:22:47^BeN^do u want to try to make your patch?
18:23:08Santhe color changer?
18:23:33^BeN^you have some idea how to make that?
18:23:43Sanerrm, ye
18:23:57Sanbut there are some errors I dont know how to fix (but others do)
18:24:02Sani am only learning C
18:24:08^BeN^me too
18:24:29Sando you know how to fix an "undeclared" error?
18:24:35Sanhow do I declare it?
18:24:50^BeN^mm open the *.h
18:25:09^BeN^and deckare the function
18:25:40Sanbut, there is nothing in there that declares anything else
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18:26:14^BeN^send me the files that you are edit
18:26:25^BeN^and i try to fix it
18:26:54SanI will do it again with a bleeding edge
18:26:58Sangive me 5 mins
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18:30:04rayowhat for a color changer do you made?`
18:34:31Santo change the colors in rockbox
18:34:56SanWe can change the background color and the text color
18:35:15rayoin config files?
18:35:19rayoor hard coded
18:36:07Sanits easy
18:36:12Sanin lcd.h
18:36:19Sanbut you have to compile it yourself
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18:40:15_andyjust tried to enable the japanese FM band so we can tune in from 78 to 108 Mhz
18:40:48_andyseams to work fine, except that there aren't any real stations there (where i live) =)
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18:42:17_andychanging the band limit flag (BL) did not make any difference though (might be different on non-european models?) so changing MIN_FREQ is enough
18:43:22eli_shererany1 know anything about 1.30e??
18:43:43^BeN^sup dude?
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18:45:46rayoin the 1.30e, there is no video menu anymore
18:46:45Sanoh, your paprica
18:47:04Sani'm almost done
18:47:13Sani love brickmania BTW
18:47:47Papricapeople need to create more levels
18:47:53Papricathe game is easy now
18:48:52Papricai make a level creator
18:49:08Papricabut no one send a levels @@
18:51:21Sani makethem for myself
18:51:24San*make them
18:51:51Papricashare them
18:52:12Papricai want to add them to the site
18:53:21eli_shereri'm working on a gif port...probably youve seen on the rockbox forum on MR...
18:53:55Papricamm nice =]
18:54:02Sanalmost finished...
18:54:06Papricawhy not on jpeg viewer?
18:54:24eli_shererjpeg is huffman too complicated in this early stage...
18:54:50eli_shererand gif will have animation as well as the code im copying from has...
18:56:04Sanso we can convert all our movies to animated gif's
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19:02:40Sanbut I know it wont work
19:02:46Sanso you can have a look at it
19:03:06Papricasend it..
19:03:15eli_shereri even need to calculate the delay time and cosider the frame loading time to the delay..
19:04:48SanTHERE ^^
19:04:58Santhe bit I edited has the gap around it
19:05:35Sani didn't have time to define the colors, thats easy, I will do it when you see whats wrong
19:16:35eli_shererwhat is it?
19:17:04Sancolor changer
19:17:08Sanits that bad?
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19:48:53Papricamm it works now
19:49:06Sanholy crap
19:49:08Sanyou serious?
19:49:11Papricabut i delete some things so
19:49:20Papricawait a minute
19:49:29Papricai will give you a screen dumo
19:50:01Sando the colors change?
19:50:20Papricamm i check only white backgrounf
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19:53:02rayomh where were the wps data initialized? i want to add a variable to gui_img but it is not initialized
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19:54:20Matze88wuh ^^ quite full in here :)
19:54:48Matze88so i've just a question... can anyone plz tell me how to submit patches/get a cvs account?
19:55:14rayoyou can submit the patches in the sourceforge patch repo
19:55:15_FireFly_Matze88: patches submit to the patchtracker on
19:55:34Matze88ah thank you :)
19:55:40muesli__guess this one
19:56:01Matze88okay, when i know that this has to be done on sourceforge i'll find it :)
19:56:14DBUGEnqueued KICK San
19:56:14SanSound Card: SoundMAX Digital Audio
19:56:25Sanhate when things crash
19:56:34Sananyway, PAPRICA!
19:57:08Sani tought you werent there
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19:57:30curioSan, i just compiled rockbox modifing lcd.h like you said for custom colors and it works great :D
19:57:48Matze88curio: custom colors where?
19:57:51Papricasan, its not sabe the settings now
19:57:56Papricaonly replace the color
19:58:10Sanbut, does the color change?
19:58:19Sanit doesn't matter if it changes back
19:58:24Matze88well i assume this should work
19:58:44curioMatze88, i've only modified background color from the default rockbox blue to #define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(255, 115, 50)
19:59:03Papricablah errors again
19:59:35Matze88curio: yep, thats nice ^^ but is only some finetuning noone will ever need :)
19:59:47Matze88but tell me... default blue? where is blue?
20:00:17Matze88i thought this should be white ^^
20:00:35Matze88but it is blue :) i thought the blue was just viewing angle problems..
20:01:48curioSan, need tester for ?
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20:24:52muesli__Paprica would be nice if you add a timestamp to your changes. we could know when you've updated somethin
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20:27:01Papricanext time when i update i will add a date =]
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20:27:27Papricait works
20:27:33Sanholy CRAP!
20:30:20Sanwill you send it to me?
20:30:49Papricamm but you need to work on it
20:30:55Papricaits very simple
20:31:03Sandoes the color stay, no?
20:31:24Papricawhen you move to wps
20:31:29Sanits a start
20:31:34Papricathe background color change
20:31:46Santhat is nice
20:32:13Sancan you send it my way please?
20:33:07Papricayou can get files from the irc?
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20:33:16Sansome people
20:33:56Sanis it just one file?
20:35:01Papricablack & white
20:35:44Sanomg, thanks man
20:36:10Sanyou did it all
20:36:17Papricadid you see my beuti menu?
20:37:13Papricamm im dont understand why the MAX_MENUS is 5
20:37:20Sanis it?
20:39:10Papricasan it works for u?
20:39:40Sanmy computer is increadably slow and laggy today
20:39:51SanI am still compiling from an Hour ago
20:39:56Sani will restart
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20:47:21Sandid you change much of the source?
20:47:48Papricai change all
20:48:22Sanso its all your work
20:49:06Sanok, making zip
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20:49:11*San is excited
20:49:27Papricawhy u dont use tje simulator?
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20:50:03Sandont like the sim
20:50:20Sandisconnected player
20:50:37Sanbooting rockbox
20:50:54Paprica* San is very excited
20:50:59SanOMG, it works
20:51:40Matze88are u talking about the color-change modß
20:51:56Matze88the screenshots are nice ^^
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20:52:04Sanwana post it on MR?
20:52:36Papricaits your patch
20:52:41Sancan I?
20:52:49DBUGEnqueued KICK Paprica
20:52:49Paprica[::] <Paprica> its your patch
20:52:49Sanyou sure?
20:53:03Sanok, thanks man
20:53:14Papricabut, its not complete
20:53:19Sanyeah, BETA
20:53:23Sani will say that
20:53:25Papricarelease beta ;]
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21:04:10Santhere it is
21:04:15Sanany changes needed?
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21:06:10Papricano =]
21:06:16Papricanice and 10q =]
21:07:28Sani am going to put a screenie up
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22:00:40DocterDis it worse to buy an ipod?
22:02:33eli_shererdon't worry everyone knows you made it...
22:02:59Papricathey love u eli =]
22:03:06DocterDgot right now an iaudio m3 but i'm thinking about buying an ipod video cause i heared there will be rockbox for it =/
22:05:40MoosDocterD: Rockbox will be suported in some players (Ipods, Gigabeats, Iaudio X5...)
22:05:44eli_shereriPoo to be exact...
22:06:14DocterDbut it seems the ipod port is going pretty well
22:06:50Moosthe h3xx too
22:07:13DocterDisn`t really easy now to get an new h3xx
22:07:32Moosand in few weeks or months on the Toshibas Gigabeat and Iaudio X5
22:08:00Moosyou have the choice :)
22:08:44DocterDdon't likehm the iaudio x5 30gb is a bit expensiver than the ipod 30gb :/
22:09:12Moostoo better ;)
22:09:22DocterDjesus this gigabeat ... 440¤
22:09:23Moosthe inverse soory
22:09:44eli_shererthe difference between the iPoo and the iRiver will be the keypad cause anything else is the same!
22:10:02Moosprocessors aren't ;)
22:10:03DocterDso why is the iaudio x5 better? i have the m3 but i begin to hate it because the remote it broken and i had only 3 month warrenty on it
22:11:12Moosx5 and m3 aren't the same too ;)
22:11:28DocterDbut i don't like this company anymore :x
22:11:34Mooshehe :)
22:11:41Moosyou prefer Aple one?
22:11:46DocterDdunno never had one
22:12:07DocterDbut i heared it is only possible to recharge it with usb? how long does this take
22:12:11DocterDa month :S ?
22:12:16MoosI've got one iriver h140, and I don't like company too
22:12:29Moosbut for it's the best music player
22:12:47Mooshuh? which one?
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22:13:09MoosSorry I'm not an Apple fan
22:13:31DocterDdon't have to be
22:13:54MoosI'm thinking to switch to color device too
22:14:16DocterDyeah i like the view of covers on the screen
22:14:17Moosand I'm looking on the Gigabeat and x5 way
22:14:31SanPaprica, I added 12 extra colors to each section
22:15:28Papricanice, now try to get it to work with all rb windows
22:16:26DocterDhm the x5 seems to have worser a worser lineout than headphone out
22:16:34DocterDomg -worser
22:17:25Mooswhere did you see this?
22:18:54muesli__we've got a dude in our forum who tested ipods last one, x5 and irivers (120) of course. the iriver clearly won in terms of sound against all of them
22:19:18MoosHello muesli
22:19:25muesli__hi moos ;)
22:19:25Mooswhere is this test?
22:19:34muesli__its in german :o
22:19:40DocterD<- ger :x
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22:21:08Moosmuesli: for me the h1xx series still best music only bet :)
22:21:21DocterDbut the h1xx is obsolet
22:21:24DocterDthats the problem ..
22:21:28muesli__h3xx too
22:21:36muesli__market is cleared of it
22:21:40Moosare very rare
22:22:02muesli__they pay up to 389e for a rarely new 140er
22:22:03Moosthat contribute to his "preciousality"
22:22:13Mooshehe :)
22:23:12kro_I got a new h120 for 250 EUR 3 weeks ago, I still think it was a good price for it...
22:23:16kro_hello btw
22:23:35Moosyaeh good price indeed
22:23:38muesli__hello kro_
22:23:43muesli__what a rhym ;)
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22:27:22DocterDno wonder why the x5 sucks at his lineout
22:27:32DocterDit needs this connector to listen from it
22:30:37Moosx5 seems doesn't be in markets a lot here in France it is rare, cause we've got legislation restrictions in the db audio volume, and x5 is under this limit
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22:31:18DocterDwell here in germany you can get it pretty good on the markt
22:31:22MoosI'm wondering if iaudio made one separate fw for this like iriver
22:31:55DocterDwhat do you mean by seperate
22:32:12Moosseparate firmware version
22:32:30Moosthe europen one was concerned
22:33:47DocterDyou mean this Volume limitation? or why should they seperate it
22:34:49MoosI mean, you've got few firmware version when released, US version, Korean Version, and U.E version
22:35:05Moos3 separate versions, it's what I mean :)
22:35:24DocterDyeah iaudio is doing the same
22:35:34Moosoopss E.U
22:35:43DocterDthe chinese version of the m3 1.36 firmware was 3 month out before it came for EU
22:36:01MoosU.E is frenchie (Union Européenne)
22:36:18Mooshi _FireFly_ btw
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22:36:32Mooswhat, frenchs ? :)
22:37:05muesli__freedom fries ;)
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22:37:22Mooshehe :)
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22:37:35Mooswe wasn't go in Irak ;)
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22:37:49muesli__neither we ;)
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22:38:03_FireFly_Moos: because the ami was faster ;)
22:38:24Mooswhat is ami?
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22:39:02Moosno, faster, but in other way ;)
22:39:26CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
22:39:26*Moos don't like a lot US politic
22:39:37_FireFly_me either
22:39:38Sanpaprica, color changer updated and ready for download with 12 new colors
22:40:02Papricanice =]
22:40:13Paprica[::] <Paprica> nice, now try to get it to work with all rb windows
22:40:18curioSan does it works on simulator too ?
22:40:18SanI am
22:40:23SanI never tryed
22:40:24Moos_FireFly_, muesli: it's pitty now with Angela Merckel, Germany will become like US :(
22:40:31Sanpap might have
22:40:37_FireFly_Moos: could be
22:40:39Papricacurio, ep
22:40:41muesli__Moos we're afraid of it
22:40:55curioPaprica, great :)
22:41:02Moosmuesli: you could
22:41:05DocterDHail our Chancelor
22:41:40Mooshahaha :D
22:41:45muesli__that bloke is bush and guess who is in rear ^^
22:42:15muesli__that sign says "reopening"
22:42:26Moosmuesli: I thought at all the unemployements and taxes will be now
22:42:56Moosmassive unemployment cause concurency :(
22:43:24muesli__we have problems cause our administration was sleeping for 30years
22:43:39muesli__scandinavians and uk did their homework
22:43:50muesli__quite a long time ago
22:43:53Moosindeed too
22:44:08MoosGermany and France are in the same train
22:44:13Mooslater train ;)
22:44:35muesli__french demonstrate too much ;)
22:44:44Mooshehe :)
22:44:52muesli__we are always amused about it ;)
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22:45:13muesli__but in other words there's soul
22:45:14MoosI like our freedom
22:45:21Paul_The_NerdThere's no soul over here.
22:45:23muesli__a community
22:45:26Moosyes history
22:45:36muesli__Paul_The_Nerd where r u from?
22:45:45MoosUS have one little history
22:45:56MoosPaul: from US?
22:46:15_FireFly_houston i guess
22:46:43curioPaprica, how do you to to simulate the H300 screen ? when i build it and run after instalation in "archos" dir, screen size is always the old archos screen size ?
22:46:55Paul_The_Nerdmuesli__: Texas
22:47:01Paul_The_NerdI'm in Houston right now.
22:47:06Moosouch :(
22:47:14Paul_The_NerdI'm from Austin, which is actually *much* better overall.
22:47:28Moosthe Gearge Bush Country :D
22:48:51MoosPaul_The_Nerd: you've got a courage to live in Texas :)
22:48:57Papricarun thw cygwin
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22:49:10Papricaand go to your simulator dir
22:49:10muesli__thx lord we get of that bimbo in 2008
22:49:13Papricawrite rbconf
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22:49:30Papricaand follow the steps
22:49:38curioPaprica, i run it thw linux
22:49:46curiookay :)
22:49:46Paul_The_NerdMoos: Austin is much less conservative than the rest of the state. It's like a little island of a city surrounded by a sea of George W. supporters
22:50:13MoosPaul_The_Nerd: sounds better :D
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22:50:32DocterDhey small question: works musepack well on the h1xx ?
22:50:38Paul_The_NerdMoos: It could be much, much worse, at least.
22:50:49muesli__DocterD yepp
22:50:59Moos(without seeking)
22:50:59curioDocterD, well but not always perfect
22:51:16DocterDnot always?
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22:51:59MoosI've got a lot of MPCs, and that work pretty well, just seeking is disable for currently
22:52:07Mooscause it is too slow
22:52:10Moosvery slow
22:52:14DocterDwell the forward and rewind is broken with musepack
22:52:27curiosometimes when player plays a track just after another track, there are strange sounds on the right channel.
22:52:39curioon the left channel sorry
22:52:47DocterDyeah but it`s not rockbox fault because its a musepack decoder problem
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22:53:01curiostop / play and the problem is gone
22:53:25Moospreglow was working on big optimisation of musepack
22:53:26curiothis problem appears with very few files
22:54:30Moospreglows's works at pending, maybe he will rework at his optimisation when he will have time
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22:54:47Mooscause the cpu activity can be reduced
22:54:54Mooslet's hope in preglow ;)
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22:55:24San|any rockbox dev here?
22:55:45Moossorry not here :)
22:55:58curioPaprica : after the build this is what i get :">
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22:56:13San|this the the RB IRC though ;-)
22:56:50Moosit is, by here I mean here where I'm, I can't help you want to tell ;)
22:57:44Papricacurio, i dont know
22:57:56MoosSan: but with those holidays and christmas.... Rockbox dev aren't here a lot
22:58:10Moosthose last days
22:59:01curioPaprica, looks like a archos screen on bottom and the rest is garbage, changing when the the small screen in bottom changes
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23:03:59[San]and rockbox devs here ATM?
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23:08:50Kingstonefirefly is a nice tv show
23:09:13[San]o rly?
23:09:16MoosKingstone is one great city ;)
23:09:19[San]never heard of it
23:09:28[San]moos is the sound a cow makes
23:09:33KingstoneKingston is
23:09:36Kingstonewithout the e
23:09:40[San]same thing...
23:09:46Kingstoneand i didn't choose it because of that..
23:09:56Kingstonebut jamaican people are cool ;)
23:09:58Moosking of the stone?
23:10:20Kingstonenope, i don't remember even
23:10:24Kingstoneit was long time ago
23:10:29Kingstonea few years back
23:10:44[San]i chose Sanitarium because It sounds dayum cool and its a metallica song
23:10:54Mooshehe :)
23:10:57[San]and san is short for Sanitarium
23:11:01Kingstoneso why you're with San?
23:11:06[San]so I have a nick for my nick
23:11:07Kingstonebut then we don't see the beauty of it
23:11:15[San]but almost everyone knows
23:11:21Kingstonenot me
23:11:29muesli__saniarium sounds like a hospital :=
23:11:35Kingstonelol yeah
23:11:37[San]i have 1.5k posts on MR, i think they might have noticed me by now
23:11:56[San]yeah, it is a place in a hostipal for insane people aswell
23:12:12[San]suits me very well
23:12:30DBUGEnqueued KICK [San]
23:12:30*[San] Skinny Dips in a sea of Led Zeppelin - 07 - Communication Breakdown
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23:12:36[San]wrong window
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23:12:40DBUGEnqueued KICK San
23:12:57MoosI I would like to eat muesli, smoke one big joint at Kingstone and finish at Hospital :D
23:13:08muesli__grunt ^^
23:13:13Sani like to say "mooooooo"
23:13:48MoosMoos is simply one nickname of my really name (Mustapha in french)
23:14:48Sani know a guy called Mustafa
23:14:55Sanhe spells it with a f
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23:15:12Sanhis name is Mustafa Kadeen
23:15:13Moos"ph" is phoneticly "f" in french
23:15:27Mooswhere he came from?
23:15:40Sanhis dad is from france
23:16:01Moosthe original country I mean
23:16:06Mooslike me is Morrocco
23:16:07Sanoh, he lives in Ireland
23:16:27Sanand born
23:16:54MoosI did born and live in french, but I'm morrocan too (maybe much)
23:17:34SanMustapha, i think, is a kick ass name
23:18:05MoosI love the signification of it
23:18:20MoosArabic name have all one signification
23:18:58muesli__thats nice
23:19:07MoosMostafa mean the choosen
23:19:21Moos"l'Ă©lu" in french
23:19:27muesli__the choosen for rockbox :D
23:19:35Mooslike Kenu Reeves with matrix
23:19:39SanI am going to go up to have and say "hey Moos" ans see what he says
23:19:48Mooshehe :)
23:21:58Moosrectification: in english Mostafa mean the elected
23:22:21Moosdidn't know the french and UK words are quasi similar
23:22:33Moosélire=to elect
23:23:20muesli__Moos french nearly conquered uk..both languages mixed up
23:24:02Moosyes Celtic thins for e.g
23:24:02muesli__hadrian's wall stopped them in scotland
23:24:18Moosthanks for the precision
23:24:33muesli__at least i was told that sometime
23:24:43muesli__when i remember it right ;)
23:25:10Moosbut the ethymologia of french came for a lot from latin and antiguo greek
23:25:39muesli__i am german ;)
23:25:45Mooshehe :)
23:25:59Moosgerman language sounds hard for me
23:26:13MoosI've got one sister spoken it
23:26:21muesli__yeah..its not that round like french
23:26:27muesli__which sounds like a song
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23:26:46muesli__sounds really good
23:26:55MoosItalian language is the more singing for my ears
23:27:27Moosfrench is the more litterary(a lot of vocabulary)
23:27:42Moosit's why I love write in french
23:27:55Mooslot of language possibilities
23:28:10Moosand then ideas possibilities ;)
23:28:18muesli__baguette came just through my head...
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23:28:33muesli__and ive that yummy pretzel in my fridge :D
23:28:40Mooshaha :)
23:28:47muesli__guess what i do right now :D
23:29:11Moosgearman language is the more spoken in UE
23:29:18Moosoops EU
23:29:44muesli__btw ue are ultimate ears = headphones in my understanding ;)
23:30:13Mooshaha, sorry for my english level ;)
23:30:15Moostoo bad
23:30:22muesli__no worries m8 :D
23:30:46MoosI really need to travel a bit in UK
23:31:29muesli__get a working holiday visa and do that for a year in oz =australia ;)
23:31:36muesli__better choice if you ask me
23:31:47Mooswohh 1 year
23:32:17Moosyou are completly englishphile now?
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23:32:36muesli__not really.i'd like to learn spanish
23:32:50MoosI love spanish
23:33:32Moosand spoken it a bit(long time of not using)
23:35:32CtcpIgnored 3 channel CTCP requests in 10 seconds at the last flood
23:35:32*Moos is away for one hashish break ;)
23:36:09amiconnMoos: What is a *gear*man?
23:36:13Papricasomeone know from where i can get information about rtc functions?
23:36:32Moosamiconn: Hello, soory german I mean of course
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23:38:45Sanhey amiconn
23:40:07Papricablah i need information about the rtc functions!
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