| 00:00:21 | amiconn | Hmm. For commercial DVDS you'll need something that decrypts css anyway. |
| 00:01:03 | Midgey34 | yah, I was using CSS Free |
| 00:01:30 | Midgey34 | iriver time: Feb 29, 2009 00.03 |
| 00:02:25 | amiconn | Ahahaha. What I expected. |
| 00:02:46 | * | amiconn hands the Bad Design Award to the iriver engineers |
| 00:02:47 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:03:18 | Midgey34 | I'm still liking the fact that feb 30th is available |
| 00:03:44 | Midgey34 | I wonder if the US firmware differs at all |
| 00:04:02 | amiconn | Now, the question is: Should we aim to be compatible to the iriver firmware and introduce wrong leap year handling, or keep the correct handling and ignore iriver fw date? |
| 00:04:03 | Midgey34 | I doubt it, but it did have RTC support while the Korean version did not for a while |
| 00:04:10 | amiconn | I'd vote for the latter... |
| 00:04:20 | Midgey34 | I'd vote latter |
| 00:04:33 | Midgey34 | but could the years be compatible? |
| 00:05:07 | amiconn | I don't know, but I don't think so |
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| 00:05:32 | Midgey34 | hmm that's a shame |
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| 00:05:36 | amiconn | If they were, iriver should show 2071 if you set 2006 in rockbox |
| 00:05:49 | Midgey34 | actually it shows nothing |
| 00:05:55 | amiconn | ...but I guess iriver considers 2071 out-of-range |
| 00:06:13 | Midgey34 | likely |
| 00:06:38 | amiconn | Hmm, not necessarily 2071, could also be 1971 |
| 00:07:00 | amiconn | The RTC just stores numbers between 00 and 99 |
| 00:07:35 | amiconn | Rockbox handles them as-is, and just adds a century to them. This is how it is intended by the RTC manufacturers |
| 00:08:10 | amiconn | Iriver bases the date on 1970, and stores (current_year - 1970) in the RTC |
| 00:08:29 | Midgey34 | iriver dates are 1980 to 2064 |
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| 00:09:03 | amiconn | Midgey34: So... rockbox and iriver dates become compatible in 2010 ;) |
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| 00:09:25 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 00:10:05 | amiconn | Ah, no |
| 00:11:02 | * | amiconn is still slightly confused |
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| 00:12:03 | Midgey34 | setting the date to 2064 in iriver leads to 2099 in rockbox |
| 00:12:31 | Jungti1234 | Rockbox likes 2040. |
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| 00:13:45 | amiconn | Midgey34: Yes, as I would expect. Another test: Set 2015 in rockbox. Iriver should show 1980 |
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| 00:18:27 | Jungti1234 | What is virtual LED? |
| 00:19:06 | Midgey34 | amiconn: yep, that's what happened |
| 00:19:24 | amiconn | So... in 2015 iriver fw & rockbox will become compatible |
| 00:19:33 | Midgey34 | so there's always a 35 year difference assuming the dates at within range |
| 00:19:38 | Midgey34 | aka compatible |
| 00:19:59 | amiconn | Somehow I doubt that many H300s will still be running in 2015... although, never say never |
| 00:20:11 | Midgey34 | Jungti1234: it shows an icon in the status bar whenever the disk is being accessed |
| 00:23:10 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 00:23:34 | markun | Someone in mygigabeat.com just asked what rockbox is. You would think that most people online would know how to use a search engine.. |
| 00:23:44 | Jungti1234 | hi markun |
| 00:23:50 | markun | hi Jungti1234 |
| 00:23:57 | Jungti1234 | Don't you sleep? |
| 00:24:02 | Midgey34 | markun: what do you think of the new gigabeat S? |
| 00:24:45 | markun | Well, Toshiba is getting very close with Microsoft. |
| 00:25:30 | markun | They are still using a ARM9 (this time from Freescale) |
| 00:26:28 | markun | MS call's it a MPU: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/media/gigabeat.mspx |
| 00:26:39 | markun | -' |
| 00:27:13 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 00:28:23 | Midgey34 | I give them this: it does look fairly stylish |
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| 00:28:43 | Bagder | Micro Processor Unit I guess |
| 00:29:19 | Midgey34 | Mobile processing unit? |
| 00:30:15 | markun | I believe they replaced the touchpad with a joypad |
| 00:30:47 | markun | http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.2788 |
| 00:32:01 | markun | "Plus it's the first DAP which seems to have support for Windows Lossless" |
| 00:32:05 | markun | Very useful ;) |
| 00:32:11 | Bagder | haha |
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| 00:38:06 | Jungti1234 | I want to go to Las Vegas. |
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| 00:42:07 | dpassen1 | for CES? |
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| 00:44:13 | muesli__ | for gambling! ;) |
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| 00:44:36 | markun | I didn't like Las Vagas much as I was under 21 back then |
| 00:46:17 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 00:46:33 | Jungti1234 | To see CES. |
| 00:47:06 | dpassen1 | For me, the most interesting thing at CES is the Sennheiser CX300 |
| 00:47:44 | Jungti1234 | CX300? |
| 00:47:53 | dpassen1 | Canalphones |
| 00:48:00 | dpassen1 | ~50 USD |
| 00:48:38 | dpassen1 | I'm hoping they sound like the PX100s which I own |
| 00:49:13 | Jungti1234 | I have interest to Cowon iAudio6. |
| 00:49:41 | darkless | if you like audio, you should owe it to yourself to try out that SVS technology made by Smyth virtual technologies |
| 00:50:01 | darkless | I heard they'd be on CES |
| 00:50:17 | darkless | http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109001 |
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| 00:51:35 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 00:53:33 | Jungti1234 | http://img.manian.dreamwiz.com/A060101/2006/01/05/51184_1.jpg |
| 00:53:47 | Jungti1234 | He is Korean member of the National Assembly. |
| 00:55:45 | muesli__ | sexy ;) |
| 00:57:11 | muesli__ | brb |
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| 00:58:02 | Pi_ | can anyone help? http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34712 |
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| 01:05:06 | duncan_ | hi guys |
| 01:07:07 | markun | hi duncan_ |
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| 01:09:44 | duncan_ | guys, I have been researching for long time |
| 01:09:53 | duncan_ | I got a Anubus Typhoon My Mini DJ player |
| 01:10:00 | duncan_ | nice because it plays Ogg, 2.2 gb hd |
| 01:10:16 | duncan_ | but no way to index files on Linux, and the firmware is not that good |
| 01:10:56 | duncan_ | but I just discovered both Frontier Labs L1 and mine are just rebranded versions of Godot M8170s. |
| 01:11:14 | duncan_ | anyone knows which kind of cpu this thing uses, and if it would be possible to run rockbox there? |
| 01:13:31 | markun | duncan_: maybe you can open it up and take some pictures |
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| 01:15:01 | duncan_ | which cpu does rockbox runs on? |
| 01:15:26 | markun | several: m68k, arm, sh1 |
| 01:17:20 | linuxstb | duncan_: Do you have a link to a firmware download for the m8170? |
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| 01:18:41 | markun | linuxstb: http://www.generationmp3.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t14606.html |
| 01:19:52 | markun | hm, the links don't seem to work.. |
| 01:20:41 | linuxstb | markun: Yes, I found that page (and the broken links) |
| 01:21:32 | markun | also a link to the www.godot.com.tw website doesn't work anymore |
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| 01:23:09 | duncan_ | linuxstb: yes hold on |
| 01:23:53 | linuxstb | It seems to have an arm9 core. |
| 01:24:17 | linuxstb | According to the page at http://www.anubisline.com/ (direct links not possible) |
| 01:24:25 | duncan_ | http://anubis.e-ws.com/83090_E_1_Firmware16.rar |
| 01:24:42 | duncan_ | thats the formware of mine, which is the same of the Godot |
| 01:24:47 | linuxstb | BMC1401ARM9core, main frequency 120Mhz |
| 01:25:23 | markun | another ARM |
| 01:26:20 | duncan_ | how did you get that!?!!??? |
| 01:27:17 | linuxstb | The description of the Typhoon My Mini DJ at www.anubisline.com |
| 01:27:37 | markun | linuxstb: when will you be back from Boston? |
| 01:28:06 | linuxstb | Next Monday |
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| 01:29:14 | duncan_ | linuxstb: does rockbox runs over that? |
| 01:29:45 | * | duncan_ cant find the arm stuff in the website |
| 01:30:20 | amiconn | linuxstb: I can't find the CPU spec either. Other: 16MB RAM, 128x64 monochrome LCD |
| 01:30:23 | linuxstb | The CPU is the easy part - almost all of Rockbox is written in C, so it is just a matter of compiling a gcc cross-compiler for your target processor |
| 01:31:12 | linuxstb | I'm looking at the technical specs for the "TYPHOON My Mini DJ 154" on www.anubisline.com |
| 01:31:38 | amiconn | There's a Mini DJ and a Mini DJ 154 |
| 01:31:43 | amiconn | They're different |
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| 01:34:06 | duncan_ | linuxstb: but I guess accesing the audio and screen is not a matter of recompiling but a per-device driver |
| 01:34:42 | linuxstb | OK, but running "strings" on the firmware files duncan_ linked to (once you unrar it to get a .cab file, and then extract the files from the .cab) shows some ARM-related error messages |
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| 01:37:16 | duncan_ | ok, but it is not a matter of downloading a rockbox image and make it run |
| 01:37:24 | markun | linuxstb: I see a lot of "Microsoft Corporation" |
| 01:38:19 | linuxstb | I see "This code can only run on a Thumb compatible processor" |
| 01:40:14 | amiconn | 83090 is the older Mini DJ (monochrome) |
| 01:41:10 | amiconn | linuxstb: Does that mean the firmware file isn't encrypted/scrambled? Remarkable... |
| 01:42:27 | duncan_ | ok, and.... is there any effor or success running rockbox in a similar machine? |
| 01:43:30 | linuxstb | duncan_: Even if it's using an ARM, it's still a huge undertaking to port rockbox - you have to work out all the other hardware in it and write drivers. |
| 01:43:39 | duncan_ | :-( |
| 01:47:25 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, it doesn't seem to be encrypted. |
| 01:48:09 | duncan_ | the other option would be to reverse engineer the database format |
| 01:48:14 | duncan_ | and implement it |
| 01:48:20 | duncan_ | under linux, for amaroK |
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| 02:04:18 | linuxstb | duncan_: Have you tried opening up your player and seeing what chips are inside? |
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| 02:16:16 | duncan_ | linuxstb: nope |
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| 02:23:58 | lamed | hello. |
| 02:24:16 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 02:24:41 | lamed | quick question. I'm just viewing iriverecording. isn't mp3 encoding one of the missing, but future to be functions? |
| 02:24:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Possibly |
| 02:24:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's definitely missing. |
| 02:27:55 | lamed | well, then i still don't know should i add it to the wiki or not |
| 02:28:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, whether it goes in pretty much depends on someone implementing it. |
| 02:29:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't think there's a proper way to do encoder plugin/codecs for recording yet, so that'd be a first step anyway, if that's the case. |
| 02:31:06 | linuxstb | IMO, "Missing Features" on that page should refer to general Rockbox features or iriver-specific hardware support (e.g. optical input) that isn't yet implemented for the iriver. |
| 02:31:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, MP3 encoding would qualify then, wouldn't it? |
| 02:32:26 | lamed | I've put it as a comment anyways |
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| 02:40:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Preglow: Are you around? |
| 02:42:28 | lamed | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2308.msg15754#msg15754 |
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| 05:56:45 | Membrillo | anyone know if you can install rockbox to iPod from windows yet? |
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| 07:32:52 | Bger | ;) |
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| 08:33:33 | * | amiconn wonders about one of the last wiki changes |
| 08:33:51 | amiconn | Gap delete is not gapless playback, it's something totally different |
| 08:38:22 | saa[b_r]ider | gap delete removes silence in the begining/end of a track |
| 08:39:01 | amiconn | Yes |
| 08:39:19 | amiconn | So the change in the feature comparison page isn't correct |
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| 09:07:46 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: i'm around now :> |
| 09:09:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | I resolved my problem |
| 09:09:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | But thanks |
| 09:10:04 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data15/2006/1/6/185/RockBoxH300KeyMapping.gif |
| 09:10:12 | Jungti1234 | I made it for Korean who don't English. |
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| 09:13:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | I discovered that other people were having the issues I am. |
| 09:13:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | It was a nano thing, rather than a rockbox thing anyway. |
| 09:13:48 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd what isues ? |
| 09:13:56 | Bger | issues |
| 09:13:58 | Bger | ah, ok |
| 09:14:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bger: It doesn't like VBR LAME alt-preset-standard MP3s. |
| 09:14:50 | Bger | on nano ? |
| 09:14:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yep |
| 09:14:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Using the Apple firmware |
| 09:15:01 | Bger | strange |
| 09:15:02 | Bger | ahhh |
| 09:15:07 | Bger | possible :) |
| 09:15:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, last time I checked Rockbox skipped even more. |
| 09:16:27 | Bger | skips as not realtime |
| 09:16:28 | Bger | ? |
| 09:17:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah. |
| 09:17:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Very not realtime |
| 09:17:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Meanwhile the Apple firmware will just randomly, on some songs, bog down for a second or so. It's not even consistent where it happens. |
| 09:17:39 | Membrillo | are the ipod builds able to be installed from windows yet? |
| 09:17:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not as far as I'm aware. |
| 09:18:15 | Membrillo | dang. Im keen to try it on my Video but only have access to windows |
| 09:18:27 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd are you using the last ver. of apple fw ? |
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| 09:19:00 | Membrillo | is anyone interested in buying spare ipod parts? |
| 09:19:16 | Membrillo | everything except the harddrive. Thats the part that broke :P |
| 09:19:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bger: The nano hasn't had an update yet. Also, apparently it's a known issue, and was one with the minis as well |
| 09:20:00 | Bger | Membrillo what ipod ? |
| 09:20:04 | Membrillo | 4g |
| 09:20:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | I found a Hydrogenaudio thread about it. |
| 09:20:39 | Bger | hm, ok, at least you're not alone :) |
| 09:20:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently it's when the clock speed needs to suddenly change |
| 09:21:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you enable equalizer settings so that it's raised constantly it's *less* likely to stutter. |
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| 09:22:27 | Bger | maybe it's a "low watermark" issue |
| 09:23:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | But Apple only acknowledges problems if files created using their encoders have issues. |
| 09:25:19 | Bger | this is ... stupid |
| 09:25:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 09:26:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think that if you sell an "MP3 player" you're obligated to either display some warning on the packaging that it may not play all MP3 files, or support the whole standard. |
| 09:26:20 | Bger | for sure... |
| 09:26:35 | Bger | otherwise it's not a full mp3 player ... |
| 09:26:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Indeed |
| 09:27:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just thought mine might be defective, but then when they "tested" it at the store, I discovered they only used AAC files when I was complaining about issues with MP3 playback. |
| 09:27:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then, when I called their phone support, they said "We can only support problems with MP3 files ripped and encoded through iTunes. This is in an effort to help prevent piracy" (As if no legal MP3s exist out there) |
| 09:27:55 | Bger | hahaha |
| 09:28:05 | Bger | does iTunes make mp3s ? |
| 09:28:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can tell it to. |
| 09:28:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's known for having a sub-pare MP3 encoder though. |
| 09:28:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | sub-par |
| 09:28:57 | Bger | sub-par ? |
| 09:29:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not as good. |
| 09:29:07 | Bger | low quality ? |
| 09:29:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | So I hear. |
| 09:29:14 | Bger | ah, ok :) |
| 09:29:17 | Bger | very possible... |
| 09:29:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | I haven't tried it, but people are not generally appreciative of it. |
| 09:29:38 | Bger | lame is the best mp3 encoder for middle/high bitrates ... |
| 09:29:38 | Bger | afaik |
| 09:29:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though you'd think they wouldn't feel the need to create a good MP3 encoder if they want people to use AAC anyway. |
| 09:31:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not sure if I'm happy knowing that mine isn't defective, or upset knowing that a device I expected to be an MP3 player isn't. |
| 09:32:44 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd in fact you've bought it with the idea running rockbox on it, so... :) |
| 09:35:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I just wanted to be sure it wasn't defective, first. |
| 09:36:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've already played around with Rockbox on it a good bit. |
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| 09:44:35 | Bger | hehe |
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| 10:26:22 | preglow | anyone here running debian testing? |
| 10:27:19 | Slasheri | unstable here.. |
| 10:27:20 | Slasheri | :) |
| 10:27:33 | preglow | i'm trying to install libgtkmm-2.4-dev, but it fails miserably |
| 10:27:38 | preglow | and i think it's testing just being broken |
| 10:27:39 | preglow | i hate testing |
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| 10:31:49 | LinusN | bla |
| 10:31:53 | preglow | :-) |
| 10:32:04 | LinusN | silly laptop keyboard |
| 10:32:08 | preglow | they are silly indeed |
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| 10:40:45 | markun | About the datasheets of th X5 LCD.. do we need the datasheet of the driver only, or also of the LCD module? |
| 10:41:10 | preglow | just the controller chip |
| 10:41:25 | markun | Then I'll update the wiki again |
| 10:41:28 | Bger | preglow and how do you know then how to setup it ? |
| 10:41:38 | Bger | markun better the 2 |
| 10:41:47 | LinusN | the datasheet wiki contains all we need |
| 10:41:48 | preglow | wha? |
| 10:42:48 | markun | LinusN: wasn't the datasheet lost when the wiki was hacked? |
| 10:43:14 | markun | Ah, you put is back.. |
| 10:43:26 | LinusN | yesterday |
| 10:44:06 | LinusN | had forgotten to do that, and the hardwarecomponents wiki addition yesterday reminded me |
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| 10:46:27 | warewolf | has anyone noticed on the H3xx that the usb charging is a little strange if you don't boot the iRiver firmware first? |
| 10:47:00 | Bger | strange? |
| 10:47:09 | markun | The datasheet pages is getting quite a monster when I also add the gigabeat |
| 10:48:14 | warewolf | Bger: like I let the unit charge for hours, then unplug it from USB. It boots into the iRiver firmware on usb-disconnect, and shows the battery level as zero (no bars at all in the battery charge indicator) |
| 10:48:17 | markun | s/getting/becoming/ |
| 10:48:35 | warewolf | Bger: if I power off, and boot the iRiver firmware, the battery charge indicator shows it's full |
| 10:48:47 | warewolf | Bger: if I plug it back into USB to let it charge, it continues to charge again. |
| 10:49:08 | Bger | warewolf huh |
| 10:49:42 | warewolf | so like I said, strange :) |
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| 10:53:00 | muesli__ | g'day |
| 10:53:07 | amiconn | preglow: I'm running testing on my VM |
| 10:53:19 | LinusN | warewolf: rockbox doesn't handle charging at all on the h300 (yet) |
| 10:53:50 | warewolf | LinusN: I suspected as much. But, on usb-attach from a powered-off state, it runs some part of the iRiver firmware, right? That handles the charging? |
| 10:54:37 | LinusN | no iriver code is executed if the bootloader starts rockbox |
| 10:55:06 | LinusN | however, the pcf50606 remembers the settings between boots |
| 10:55:26 | LinusN | at least some of them |
| 10:55:32 | warewolf | ok when I plug it into USB, I don't see the rockbox boot loader |
| 10:55:56 | warewolf | I see the iRiver boot screen, scanning disk, etc, then it drops into charging mode |
| 10:55:56 | LinusN | that's probably because it doesn't see the ON key |
| 10:56:01 | warewolf | right. |
| 10:56:40 | Bger | no, the reason is other ... if iriver fw sees usb is connected after bootup, it goes either to charging or to connected state |
| 10:56:41 | warewolf | Is the unit never really completely turned "off" ? |
| 10:56:56 | Bger | depending on the settings |
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| 10:57:43 | Bger | ah, i meant something other |
| 10:57:57 | Bger | forget what i said |
| 10:59:51 | preglow | amiconn: could you please try to install libgtkmm-2.4-dev and see if it's even possible? |
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| 11:07:15 | warewolf | LinusN: any idea what the average charged battery voltage should be on a H340? |
| 11:07:38 | warewolf | LinusN: I realise that it is likely to change based on age of the battery, etc |
| 11:07:58 | LinusN | it depends on the age of the battery, and the current load, but between 4.0 and 4.2 |
| 11:08:44 | LinusN | i'd say 4.1 |
| 11:08:58 | warewolf | k |
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| 11:14:52 | amiconn | preglow: I'm currently upgrading the installation. I can try after that |
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| 11:19:55 | Pi | linus: i would value your input http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=368068#post368068 |
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| 11:41:21 | LinusN | yes, i'd like a skip-first-keypress function as well |
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| 11:53:40 | amiconn | I don't |
| 11:53:56 | amiconn | It makes blind navigation more difficult |
| 11:54:09 | amiconn | ->option? |
| 11:55:29 | LinusN | didn't think of that, then it should be an option |
| 11:57:45 | Pi | was there a reason the first two points havent been done or is it just no one has gotten around to it |
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| 12:01:13 | amiconn | There are reasons why (1) and (2) aren't done |
| 12:02:04 | Pi | that is what i am getting at, what are they? |
| 12:02:19 | amiconn | away |
| 12:04:42 | markun | Pi: 1 hasn't be done because the language file system needs to be changed to be able to have different messages depending on the player |
| 12:04:56 | LinusN | (1) we want it to be the Navi key, but the text translation system can't have target specific strings (yet) |
| 12:05:37 | LinusN | (2) the internal code structure makes this difficult |
| 12:05:49 | Paprica | saa[b_r]ider? |
| 12:06:12 | LinusN | (3) i bet there was |
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| 12:06:23 | Pi | thanks guys |
| 12:06:34 | t0mas | good morning |
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| 12:07:36 | LinusN | Pi: besides, misticriver is hardly the place to ask "the devs" questions |
| 12:08:30 | Pi | it was a big question, i linked to it a couple of times from here |
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| 12:08:47 | Topic | "Rockbox MP3 Player firmware - www.rockbox.org - We DO NOT estimate release dates. You'll find out when it happens." by t0mas (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) |
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| 12:17:45 | Jungti1234 | I came back! |
| 12:18:30 | Bger | wb, Jungti1234 :P |
| 12:18:38 | Jungti1234 | :P |
| 12:27:38 | Pi | to add language support to the colour patch... |
| 12:27:49 | Pi | do i just need to replace "Aqua" with ID2P(LANG_COLOR_AQUA) |
| 12:27:57 | Pi | then ad an entry to english.lang |
| 12:28:11 | Pi | or do i need to edit all the .lang files# |
| 12:28:13 | Pi | ? |
| 12:30:48 | preglow | you can fix as many lang files as you want |
| 12:30:52 | preglow | but just english will do |
| 12:31:03 | Pi | thanks |
| 12:31:19 | preglow | but what are we talking about here? |
| 12:31:23 | preglow | a profile name or something? |
| 12:31:39 | preglow | if it's just a name, i don't know if we want to translate it |
| 12:31:59 | Pi | have you looked at the colour patch? |
| 12:32:05 | preglow | no |
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| 12:32:18 | preglow | i haven't looked at anything rockbox related for a while |
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| 12:32:35 | Pi | settings so you can chose the fore and background colours |
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| 12:33:56 | Pi | you can chose from 17 different colours |
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| 12:37:07 | preglow | right |
| 12:37:25 | preglow | why can't we just use a colour map? i can see this colour list growing very big |
| 12:38:18 | Jungti1234 | Tomorrow I go to iriverzone. |
| 12:39:33 | preglow | later i go to the pub |
| 12:40:40 | Jungti1234 | pub? hahaha |
| 12:41:28 | Pi | the current colors are:Aqua, Black, Blue, Fuchsia, Green, Grey, Lime, Navy, Olive, Orange, Purple, Red, RB Blue, Silver, Teal, White, Yellow |
| 12:41:30 | Pi | and yes I am intending a custom coloures feature |
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| 12:42:02 | preglow | yes, just so that we don't end up with a truckload of colours to translate |
| 12:42:14 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 12:43:11 | gibbs | LinusN: I was wondering if you will/could make it so that the h3xx will not boot up to the iriver fw everytime you plug it in for recharge, b/c the clock resets everytime the iriver fw boots |
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| 12:43:54 | saa[b_r]ider | paprica: I'm back |
| 12:44:01 | Jungti1234 | hi saa[b_r]ider. :) |
| 12:44:16 | saa[b_r]ider | hello jungti |
| 12:44:22 | Jungti1234 | wb |
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| 12:45:13 | saa[b_r]ider | thanks! lots of CES news to read :) did you see the new iRiver PMC? |
| 12:45:18 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 12:45:25 | t0mas | jup |
| 12:45:28 | Pi | preglow: do you think 17 colours is too many? |
| 12:45:28 | t0mas | looks good |
| 12:45:46 | saa[b_r]ider | http://www.dapreview.net/pics/iriver/iriver_new_pmc.jpg |
| 12:45:52 | t0mas | only the windows media icon |
| 12:45:57 | Jungti1234 | thanks |
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| 12:46:04 | t0mas | that makes me think of DRM and hard-to-hack |
| 12:46:09 | saa[b_r]ider | Pi: did you add new colors? |
| 12:46:10 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 12:46:40 | Jungti1234 | Is it really iriver PMC? |
| 12:46:57 | preglow | Pi: maybe |
| 12:47:00 | t0mas | hm |
| 12:47:07 | t0mas | Jungti1234: I haven't seen that version either :) |
| 12:47:08 | saa[b_r]ider | not sure, it says "River" |
| 12:47:25 | t0mas | Texas Instruments |
| 12:47:31 | saa[b_r]ider | this is at the "Texas Instruments" booth |
| 12:47:32 | preglow | Pi: i think perhaps fewer presets and a custom colour selector would be nice |
| 12:47:38 | Jungti1234 | yes, It's written that it's 'River'. |
| 12:47:51 | saa[b_r]ider | they're showcasing their processor |
| 12:47:58 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 12:48:11 | t0mas | how has that google box ended btw? |
| 12:48:11 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 12:48:17 | saa[b_r]ider | brb |
| 12:48:58 | Jungti1234 | I don't believe it. |
| 12:49:53 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 12:49:54 | Jungti1234 | I don't believe it. |
| 12:49:59 | Jungti1234 | oops sorry |
| 12:50:04 | Jungti1234 | http://aving.net/sp_edition/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=10282 |
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| 12:50:50 | Pi | so if there are to be less presets, how many/what should they be? |
| 12:51:10 | t0mas | Jungti1234: nice girl... |
| 12:51:16 | t0mas | oh... you wanted to show the phone? :P |
| 12:51:18 | Jungti1234 | hahahaha |
| 12:51:27 | Jungti1234 | yes :D |
| 12:51:37 | t0mas | that's just a stupid way of advertising... |
| 12:51:42 | Jungti1234 | It's WiBro. :) |
| 12:52:00 | t0mas | in the Netherlands we have the HCC-dagen... tech conference like |
| 12:52:25 | Jungti1234 | What is HCC-dagen? |
| 12:52:39 | t0mas | and every year again, some pull out miss universe or miss world... and get an add like: "Get a picture of you and miss universe next to our product." |
| 12:52:49 | muesli__ | LinusN are you member of the Piratpartiet? ;) |
| 12:53:02 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 12:53:42 | t0mas | and a big load of nerds is running there... to wait in a line for over an hour... just to get a picture |
| 12:54:19 | muesli__ | poor fools ;) |
| 12:54:23 | t0mas | yeah... |
| 12:54:38 | t0mas | I've worked there last year... for a pc magazine... so I have a picture too :P |
| 12:54:46 | t0mas | w/o product... with autograph :P |
| 12:54:52 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 12:54:56 | t0mas | couldn't stand the temptation to get that one... |
| 12:54:57 | muesli__ | show us that pic ;) |
| 12:55:04 | t0mas | but I haven't waited for an hour |
| 12:55:12 | t0mas | just walked by after closing hours |
| 12:55:27 | t0mas | muesli__: I can scan it, but I'll have to find it first... |
| 12:55:35 | t0mas | it's not that intresting to look at ;) |
| 12:55:37 | muesli__ | mk :-/ |
| 12:55:49 | muesli__ | i am interested in miss world ;) |
| 12:56:05 | t0mas | also walked by the Microsoft stand after closing hours... when they introduced the media center thing |
| 12:56:29 | Jungti1234 | muesli__: How about Miss Korea? |
| 12:56:40 | t0mas | anybody seen miss iceland? |
| 12:56:40 | muesli__ | hand her over ;) |
| 12:57:00 | t0mas | she was miss world 2005 |
| 12:57:01 | muesli__ | lost in a geysir |
| 12:57:02 | Jungti1234 | I seem to see her. |
| 12:57:35 | t0mas | http://picsrv.missworld.tv/?fif=/missworld/img_399_2897.jpg&obj=iip,1.0&wid=270&hei=405&rgn=0,0,0,0&cvt=jpeg |
| 12:57:41 | t0mas | this years miss world |
| 12:57:53 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 12:57:55 | muesli__ | bought :D |
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| 12:58:09 | Jungti1234 | Bikini. |
| 12:58:31 | t0mas | well... if they put her in that bikini up next year... |
| 12:58:37 | t0mas | I will stand in a line ;) |
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| 12:58:59 | Jungti1234 | http://manian.dreamwiz.com/board/view.asp?bid=A060101&no=50574 |
| 12:59:00 | t0mas | no matter what stupid intel product is with her :P |
| 12:59:32 | t0mas | Jungti1234: should I be able to read that? |
| 12:59:53 | Jungti1234 | http://manian.dreamwiz.com/board/view.asp?bid=A060101&no=45823 <- Every country's beautiful girls. |
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| 13:00:23 | Jungti1234 | t0mas: no :( |
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| 13:00:41 | Jungti1234 | It deleted. |
| 13:01:05 | muesli__ | http://manian.dreamwiz.com/img/category/cate_community_img.gif |
| 13:01:06 | t0mas | hm... I still like Iceland's better ;) |
| 13:01:09 | muesli__ | here we go ;) |
| 13:01:20 | Jungti1234 | heh |
| 13:01:27 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 13:01:43 | Jungti1234 | South Korea woman is the best. |
| 13:02:13 | * | t0mas slowly starts looking at what this has to do with mp3 players ;) |
| 13:02:31 | t0mas | maybe a new rockbox logo for the H300? ;) |
| 13:03:04 | t0mas | brb, phone |
| 13:03:07 | Jungti1234 | What logo? |
| 13:05:09 | Jungti1234 | I'm a nice guy. :D |
| 13:05:18 | Jungti1234 | hahahaha |
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| 13:06:23 | Jungti1234 | good night all |
| 13:06:28 | markun | good night junti |
| 13:06:39 | Jungti1234 | I sleep early. :) |
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| 13:20:38 | petur | If I would move H3xx digital recording gain to the recording screen as well, would this patch have a changce of getting accepted? |
| 13:22:30 | petur | and change the names to 'analog gain' and 'digital gain'... |
| 13:25:25 | LinusN | petur: changing the string would be a problem on the archos, since "analog gain" might not fit on the lcd |
| 13:26:13 | petur | so keep ADC gain and only on iRiver add 'digital gain' |
| 13:27:31 | petur | woops - it now only says 'gain' - is that all the space there is? |
| 13:28:29 | LinusN | pretty much |
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| 13:29:40 | petur | I could just add 'decrementer' below the current 'gain' for iriver, but most users wouldn't understand... |
| 13:33:09 | * | petur discovers the wiki device comparison chart |
| 13:35:48 | LinusN | petur: "decimator" |
| 13:36:01 | [San] | hello |
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| 13:36:33 | petur | LinusN: sorry, mixing RB and work ;) |
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| 13:53:04 | amiconn | preglow: I can select libgtkmm-2.4-dev for installation. It selects a number of dependent packages |
| 13:54:43 | amiconn | However, since the last upgrade I get 'packages not authenticated' for a number of packages :puzzeld:? |
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| 13:58:04 | preglow | ahh, yes |
| 13:58:08 | preglow | there are problems with testing |
| 13:58:13 | preglow | nevermind, i've done a reinstall anyway |
| 13:58:59 | preglow | i don't get how you can say it's hard to install linux, i'm on wireless network now, with an expensive and not too common soundcard, and i had an install going in thirty minutes |
| 13:59:03 | preglow | got to be bad luck, i guess |
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| 14:00:10 | preglow | and now for something completely different, i just had rockbox mess up a playlist again. i inserted one directory just before another one finished. it then continued on the inserted directory, but then, after one track, it started playing something completely different |
| 14:00:14 | preglow | i think it's a race condition |
| 14:00:31 | preglow | it might have just started buffering the next track when i inserted a new directory to the playlist |
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| 14:03:06 | amiconn | preglow: The basic installation isn't that hard (although it usually takes longer than a windows install), but getting everything running smoothly is |
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| 14:03:48 | preglow | linux installs are actually a bit quicker than windows installs for me |
| 14:04:40 | preglow | but not by much |
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| 14:12:12 | _FireFly_ | amiconn: it depends how many packages will be installed on linux-installation |
| 14:12:40 | _FireFly_ | and remember you get more tools/programs installed when installing linux then when only installing windows ;) |
| 14:13:33 | amiconn | I know |
| 14:14:37 | preglow | argh1! |
| 14:14:42 | preglow | complete reinstall with a stable branch |
| 14:14:51 | preglow | and the _SAME_ package is _STILL_ uninstallable |
| 14:14:59 | preglow | this just isn't funny anymore |
| 14:15:34 | amiconn | That's the kind of linux 'fun' I'm often running into :/ |
| 14:15:35 | _FireFly_ | so a speed comparison between windows installation and gnu/linux-distribution installation is the same as you would compare apple with pears |
| 14:16:57 | amiconn | Something just won't work, and no help is available/ retrievable |
| 14:17:47 | preglow | this is good old-fashioned debian fun |
| 14:17:50 | preglow | i hope it rots |
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| 15:19:07 | Paprica | saa[b_r]ider |
| 15:19:09 | Paprica | ? |
| 15:19:22 | saa[b_r]ider | hi |
| 15:19:40 | Paprica | hi |
| 15:19:49 | Paprica | sup? =] |
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| 15:23:17 | saa[b_r]ider | just got a cup of tea :) |
| 15:23:57 | Paprica | Bon appetit |
| 15:23:59 | Paprica | ;] |
| 15:24:24 | saa[b_r]ider | thanks! there have been many responses to your Rockcalander thread at MR |
| 15:24:59 | Paprica | yes, i saw |
| 15:25:05 | Paprica | mm what it means |
| 15:25:06 | Paprica | a.c:468: warning: 'col' might be used uninitialized in this function |
| 15:25:08 | Paprica | @@ |
| 15:26:14 | Bger | Paprica it means that there is a code path in a.c that allows col to be used before u've set it to some value |
| 15:26:40 | Bger | i.e. using it before it has been initialized |
| 15:26:48 | Pi | is ther a case fn? |
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| 15:27:06 | Bger | pi yes |
| 15:27:13 | Bger | switch (var) { |
| 15:27:18 | Paprica | ööö |
| 15:27:19 | Paprica | mmm |
| 15:27:21 | Paprica | ok 10q |
| 15:27:25 | Bger | case case1: ... |
| 15:27:27 | Bger | break; |
| 15:27:31 | Bger | case case2: ... |
| 15:27:35 | Bger | break |
| 15:27:39 | Bger | default: ... |
| 15:27:41 | Bger | break |
| 15:27:42 | Bger | } |
| 15:27:45 | Bger | but |
| 15:27:47 | JaviMM | Hi. One little question about the Rockbox firm. Does it support the Archos Gmini XS 202?. Thank you in advance. |
| 15:27:53 | Bger | where case1, case2 ... are constants |
| 15:27:55 | Bger | but beware |
| 15:28:14 | Bger | you should use "break;" to break the switch |
| 15:28:26 | Bger | otherwise it'll continue to the next value |
| 15:28:27 | Bger | that is |
| 15:28:34 | Bger | if var == case1 |
| 15:28:36 | [San] | is rockbox loading for anyone? |
| 15:28:47 | [San] | rockbox.org that is |
| 15:29:06 | Matze41 | [San]: yep for me it is loading |
| 15:29:07 | Bger | and you don't have the break; just before case2: it'll continue to execute the case2 ... |
| 15:29:33 | Pi | sorry i was asking paprica if ther was a swich fn in the code,(i had that error yesterday) |
| 15:30:04 | [San] | JaviMM: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml <−−- Thats where you download rockbox, and if the player isn't listed, it isn't supported |
| 15:31:06 | [San] | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ArchosFAQ#What_Archos_players_does_Rockbox <−−- And there |
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| 15:31:40 | godzirra | Heya guys. |
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| 15:32:07 | godzirra | I just updated to the new rockbox, and my old version would remember what was in my playlist that I was playing currently. For some reason this one doesnt, and it unloads my wps everytime it powers off... |
| 15:32:11 | godzirra | Am I doing something wrong? |
| 15:32:37 | Paprica | [::] <Pi> sorry i was asking paprica if ther was a swich fn in the code,(i had that error yesterday) |
| 15:32:38 | Paprica | è÷ô |
| 15:32:42 | Paprica | yep |
| 15:32:46 | Paprica | i use case |
| 15:32:58 | Paprica | (switch) |
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| 15:38:35 | Pi | paprica: is it fixed? |
| 15:39:02 | Paprica | yes |
| 15:39:38 | Pi | nice to hear |
| 15:39:57 | Paprica | =] |
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| 16:04:33 | godzirra | aynone know? |
| 16:04:36 | godzirra | anyone even |
| 16:09:10 | saa[b_r]ider | godzirra: sounds strange |
| 16:09:34 | godzirra | I agree |
| 16:10:30 | saa[b_r]ider | if you click stop, then the playlist entries will be removed, so maybe that's causing your problem |
| 16:10:42 | godzirra | Huh. Thats odd. My old version didn't do that...? |
| 16:12:25 | amiconn | The playlist entries are *not* removed when pressing stop. Otherwise resume wouldn't work |
| 16:13:11 | saa[b_r]ider | amiconn: you're right, godzirra: ignore what I said... |
| 16:13:13 | godzirra | amiconn: thats what I'm saying... my reusme doesnt work now since I updated... |
| 16:13:21 | godzirra | do I have to turn resume back on after updating? |
| 16:14:23 | saa[b_r]ider | to correct my self: after clicking stop, you can create a new playlist when going to the playlist menu, rather then going to the "view current playlist" option (which is what you get if you access the playlist menu *during* playback) |
| 16:15:39 | godzirra | Do I need to turn on resume again? |
| 16:15:43 | godzirra | and if so, how? |
| 16:16:10 | amiconn | Resume can't be turned off, it's always possible. What can be turned on/off is just the auto-resume at startup |
| 16:16:35 | godzirra | Ahh, ok. How do I turn back on autoresume? |
| 16:17:04 | saa[b_r]ider | ooh.. |
| 16:17:48 | saa[b_r]ider | godzirra: when you said it remembered what your playlist was playing, you were actually talking about auto resume... |
| 16:18:12 | saa[b_r]ider | and when you said it now unloads your wps, you ment it loaded into the file tree.... |
| 16:18:28 | godzirra | saa[b_r]ider: No, I meant it unloads my wps. |
| 16:18:35 | godzirra | The first part you got right. The second part you didnt :) |
| 16:18:41 | godzirra | so how do I turn back on autoresume? |
| 16:18:41 | saa[b_r]ider | loads a different one? |
| 16:18:51 | godzirra | It looks the way it does when I dont have a wps loaded. |
| 16:20:19 | saa[b_r]ider | definately you just need auto resume, hang on, I'll turn my iRiver on |
| 16:21:36 | godzirra | Thanks |
| 16:21:49 | saa[b_r]ider | general settings/playback/resume on startup :) |
| 16:22:01 | saa[b_r]ider | doesn't hurt to look around ;) |
| 16:23:10 | saa[b_r]ider | try it and tell me if that solves your problem |
| 16:26:35 | godzirra | yup yup |
| 16:27:58 | godzirra | yeah, if I turn it off then back on, it unloads my wps. |
| 16:28:03 | godzirra | autoresume does work now though. |
| 16:29:13 | saa[b_r]ider | WPS doesn't load unless you're playing music, which is why it doesn't load when autoresume is on ;) |
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| 16:30:02 | saab_rider | a few weeks ago, WPS would load at startup even if autoresume wasn't on |
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| 16:31:55 | godzirra | ahh. |
| 16:31:58 | godzirra | damn.. how come that was taken out? |
| 16:32:04 | godzirra | It means autoresume will always look ugly? |
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| 16:44:08 | godzirra | saa[b_r]ider: how come they changed it? And are they going to change it back? |
| 16:45:24 | saab_rider | I think it was someone's prefrence, and I don't know if they will... all you need to do is let the developers know that you want this as an option |
| 16:45:39 | saab_rider | but I'm not sure we're both talking about the same thing... |
| 16:45:53 | saab_rider | what do you mean "autoresume will always look ugly"? |
| 16:46:05 | joshn_454 | Is anyone here working on the ipod port? |
| 16:46:57 | saab_rider | joshn just out of curiosity, which iPod generation do you have |
| 16:47:08 | joshn_454 | 5g |
| 16:47:20 | godzirra | saa[b_r]ider: I mean when you turn the iriver off then back on, the wps doesnt get loaded anymore. |
| 16:47:27 | godzirra | so it uses the 'default' one which is ugly and broken looking. |
| 16:47:54 | saab_rider | joshn: oh, I don't think they're working on that at the moment. the guys here own 4G and Nano afaik |
| 16:48:19 | saab_rider | if auto resume is on, it will load WPS on startup |
| 16:48:27 | godzirra | Autoresume is on and it did not load my wps. |
| 16:48:29 | joshn_454 | well, the audio doesn't work right now, and I'm wondering if it works on any of the players |
| 16:48:37 | joshn_454 | any of the ipods |
| 16:48:46 | saab_rider | hang on... |
| 16:49:07 | godzirra | sure |
| 16:49:10 | godzirra | thanks for all your help ?) |
| 16:49:11 | godzirra | :) |
| 16:49:24 | saab_rider | joshn: not really sure to be honest. there's a new iPod forum at RB's site |
| 16:49:59 | saab_rider | godzirra (you're making me waste my battery, and I just finished recharging!) ;) |
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| 16:50:09 | godzirra | Hehe sorry. |
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| 16:50:29 | saa[b_r]ider | j/k ;) |
| 16:51:55 | saa[b_r]ider | godzirra, does it play music on startup when you have auto resume set to on? |
| 16:52:02 | godzirra | Yup. |
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| 16:52:17 | saa[b_r]ider | and what shows up on yor screen? |
| 16:52:52 | saa[b_r]ider | joshn, do you have the 30GB or 60? |
| 16:53:45 | godzirra | The top line is the battery/volume/play, the second line is the title, the third line is the band, the fourth line is the cd name, then a blank line, the timer: (played/total), after that is the bit rate and id3v1.1, and the next line is the broken looking progress meter. |
| 16:53:51 | godzirra | the bottom half of the screen is empty. |
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| 16:54:37 | saa[b_r]ider | ok... that IS the WPS... maybe you mean it's not the WPS you've previously chosen |
| 16:55:01 | godzirra | Yes, its not the wps that I had loaded before I powered off. |
| 16:55:15 | saa[b_r]ider | have you done any patches? |
| 16:55:29 | godzirra | Nope. Just updated to the release downloaded from the rockbox site. |
| 16:55:44 | godzirra | I did this... yesterday or the day before I believe. |
| 16:56:07 | joshn_454 | saa[b_r]ider: 60 |
| 16:56:24 | godzirra | I want a 60 gig ipod video :/ |
| 16:56:25 | saa[b_r]ider | try selecting other WPSs, and turn off the player, then on again.... see if it's just a problem with the WPS you want to use |
| 16:56:30 | godzirra | ok. |
| 16:56:50 | saa[b_r]ider | joshn: have you bought the dock, and remote? |
| 16:57:02 | joshn_454 | well, I got it with porting rockbox in mind; I *hate* apple's firmware |
| 16:57:04 | godzirra | saa[b_r]ider: nope. happens with the other wps too. |
| 16:57:20 | joshn_454 | I'd take the old archos recorder w/ rockbox to the ipod w/ apple's firmware |
| 16:57:32 | joshn_454 | no dock or remote |
| 16:57:54 | saa[b_r]ider | godzirra: my previously chosen WPS is loading fine, can't really think of why it's not working for you |
| 16:58:17 | saa[b_r]ider | I take it you don't have the A/V cable either |
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| 16:58:30 | godzirra | Hrm. |
| 16:58:31 | godzirra | damnit. |
| 16:58:36 | godzirra | saa[b_r]ider: how new is your version? |
| 16:59:22 | saa[b_r]ider | january 4th |
| 16:59:28 | godzirra | HRm. Damnit. |
| 16:59:34 | godzirra | That may be the version I grabbed. |
| 16:59:58 | saa[b_r]ider | godzirra, are you using an H100? I have an H300 |
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| 17:00:04 | godzirra | H120. |
| 17:00:14 | godzirra | What the hells an H300? |
| 17:00:33 | saa[b_r]ider | I wouldn't know if this has anything to do with it... |
| 17:00:44 | saa[b_r]ider | iRiver H340, color LCD |
| 17:00:56 | godzirra | Damn thats cool. |
| 17:01:03 | godzirra | how much are they? |
| 17:01:07 | saa[b_r]ider | have you been under a shell :) |
| 17:01:21 | godzirra | Nah, I stopped looking at mp3 players when I bought mine. |
| 17:01:24 | godzirra | Its just depressing :) |
| 17:01:39 | saa[b_r]ider | hahaha.... mine is over a year old now |
| 17:01:44 | godzirra | Mines 2-3 I think. |
| 17:01:48 | godzirra | It works great though, so I have no reason to upgrade. |
| 17:02:10 | godzirra | and I have enough toys without needing a video playero n my mp3 player. |
| 17:02:21 | saa[b_r]ider | has USB host, doesn't have optical in/out, plays videos at 15 fps (or 10, I forget) |
| 17:02:54 | godzirra | Yeah, the usb host is pretty sweet. |
| 17:03:04 | godzirra | Still not something worth me spending a few hundred bucks on though ;) |
| 17:03:25 | saa[b_r]ider | never made use of it to be honest :) not that I don't care for the feature, but I don't have a digital camera at the moment! |
| 17:04:07 | saa[b_r]ider | post a question at the RB forum, I'm sure someone can help |
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| 17:04:30 | godzirra | I dont either :/ I'm missing my digital camera too. |
| 17:04:39 | godzirra | was gonna get a new one this month, but car broke down so have to deal with that instead. |
| 17:06:25 | saa[b_r]ider | sucks when things like that happen! |
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| 17:09:29 | discombobulated | Hi all |
| 17:09:39 | saa[b_r]ider | hola |
| 17:10:29 | discombobulated | Think i might have killed my H340 :'( |
| 17:11:02 | discombobulated | getting "ATA error: -1" |
| 17:11:06 | discombobulated | any suggestions? |
| 17:11:12 | saa[b_r]ider | reset? |
| 17:11:20 | discombobulated | done it loads |
| 17:11:37 | discombobulated | i'm assuming you are talking about reset button |
| 17:11:43 | saa[b_r]ider | yeah |
| 17:11:56 | saa[b_r]ider | what did you do before the error started? |
| 17:12:04 | discombobulated | dropped it, lol |
| 17:12:20 | saa[b_r]ider | :) |
| 17:12:22 | discombobulated | had rockbox on as well |
| 17:12:33 | preglow | dropped it.... |
| 17:12:48 | preglow | that does indeed sound good |
| 17:12:49 | saa[b_r]ider | don't think it's rockbox's fault in your situation! |
| 17:12:59 | preglow | do you remember if the disk was spinning? |
| 17:13:25 | saa[b_r]ider | preglow: a guy was asking if there's any audio at all on iPod atm |
| 17:13:37 | discombobulated | not sure if disk was spinning |
| 17:13:41 | discombobulated | it was ok for a few mins |
| 17:13:57 | discombobulated | then I went to save settings to a .cfg, and it just died |
| 17:13:58 | preglow | saa[b_r]ider: audio, yes, glitchy, yes |
| 17:14:08 | preglow | it's just some test code |
| 17:14:21 | saa[b_r]ider | but only tested on the nano and 4G right? |
| 17:14:24 | preglow | yea |
| 17:14:57 | saa[b_r]ider | any attempts on using it with a 5G? |
| 17:16:18 | preglow | doesn't work |
| 17:16:27 | discombobulated | If I send it back to Iriver on warranty, are they going to have a spaz because I have RB on it? |
| 17:16:35 | godzirra | Probably. |
| 17:16:41 | saa[b_r]ider | most likely |
| 17:16:42 | godzirra | Does it power up at all? |
| 17:16:42 | joshn_454 | preglow: any idea why? |
| 17:16:46 | discombobulated | yep |
| 17:16:51 | godzirra | Yeah. that sucks. |
| 17:17:06 | discombobulated | the hard drive clicks for about a min |
| 17:17:06 | preglow | joshn_454: no, probably wont be very hard to fix, though |
| 17:17:19 | saa[b_r]ider | preglow: joshn is asking about 5G |
| 17:17:23 | discombobulated | then i get "ATA error: -1" |
| 17:17:37 | joshn_454 | yeah, started going down the route of a different DAC, but couldn't find datasheets for the 5g chip |
| 17:18:12 | saa[b_r]ider | joshn: 454 as in ci? |
| 17:18:21 | joshn_454 | ci? |
| 17:18:34 | saa[b_r]ider | never mind :) cubic inch |
| 17:19:27 | preglow | saa[b_r]ider: i know... |
| 17:19:36 | discombobulated | soo, i'm screwed I presume |
| 17:19:42 | preglow | discombobulated: pretty much |
| 17:19:54 | discombobulated | £250 out the window :( |
| 17:19:56 | preglow | joshn_454: i think the dac is more or less the same |
| 17:20:04 | preglow | joshn_454: might just be a subtle driver difference |
| 17:20:18 | saa[b_r]ider | disco look at the bright side, you can now upgrade your hard drive :) |
| 17:20:25 | discombobulated | to what? |
| 17:20:28 | discombobulated | 60GB? |
| 17:20:36 | saa[b_r]ider | sure... |
| 17:20:52 | discombobulated | what about insurance |
| 17:20:58 | joshn_454 | preglow: with what? the DAC? isn't that about the only chip that's different? |
| 17:21:12 | saa[b_r]ider | you guys care for insurance too much in the UK :) |
| 17:21:13 | joshn_454 | I guess I haven't looked at the i2s chip... |
| 17:22:01 | saa[b_r]ider | if you were the type who worries about this kind of thing, you should've waited for your warrenty to end before adding RB ;) |
| 17:22:25 | discombobulated | heh |
| 17:22:30 | discombobulated | im impatient :P |
| 17:22:30 | preglow | joshn_454: the wolfson codec chip has a very different part number on the 5g as compared to the nano |
| 17:22:37 | preglow | joshn_454: and those two players are very similar othereise |
| 17:22:42 | saa[b_r]ider | I say upgrade, but just make sure you don't drop it again! |
| 17:22:49 | discombobulated | hmmmm |
| 17:23:02 | discombobulated | well, if insurance doesnt work, then will take it apart |
| 17:23:09 | discombobulated | because im assuming that voids warranty |
| 17:23:12 | joshn_454 | sorry, the wolfson chip was what I meant by DAC |
| 17:23:22 | saa[b_r]ider | unless the price of the drive is close to the price of a new DAP... |
| 17:23:38 | saa[b_r]ider | oh, I didn't get you at first. your DAP is insured? |
| 17:23:57 | discombobulated | well |
| 17:24:04 | discombobulated | it should be, home contents |
| 17:24:05 | godzirra | DAP? |
| 17:24:12 | saa[b_r]ider | digital audio player |
| 17:24:13 | discombobulated | Digital Audio Player |
| 17:24:16 | godzirra | ahh |
| 17:24:23 | discombobulated | hehe, same second |
| 17:24:30 | saa[b_r]ider | a more acurate term than MP3 player |
| 17:24:53 | * | saa[b_r]ider is trying to be a quick robot |
| 17:26:09 | discombobulated | the one thing that annoyed me with the H340 was the size |
| 17:27:37 | discombobulated | its just embarassing compared to the nano, even if it is a POS |
| 17:27:58 | saa[b_r]ider | I put an inskin, then RB came out for the H300, and now I love my player again |
| 17:28:12 | saa[b_r]ider | POS? |
| 17:28:21 | * | saa[b_r]ider 's turn to ask |
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| 17:29:22 | godzirra | heh. |
| 17:29:24 | godzirra | piece of shit. |
| 17:29:58 | saa[b_r]ider | hahaha |
| 17:30:17 | godzirra | Or point of sale, depending on if you're talking to a waiter. ;) |
| 17:30:24 | discombobulated | lol |
| 17:30:40 | saa[b_r]ider | now now disco, some might be offended by your comment :) |
| 17:30:54 | saa[b_r]ider | we're all RB supporters here! |
| 17:31:11 | godzirra | I want a nano. they're just so neat and tiny. |
| 17:31:16 | godzirra | It would go well with my gameboy micro :) |
| 17:31:16 | * | preglow strokes his nano |
| 17:31:42 | saa[b_r]ider | nicee! how are those things! (micro) |
| 17:31:54 | saa[b_r]ider | what games do they play? GBA? |
| 17:31:58 | saa[b_r]ider | DS? |
| 17:32:49 | godzirra | GBA |
| 17:32:54 | godzirra | I had a DS |
| 17:32:54 | saa[b_r]ider | iPods feel too delicate for me... I feel if I ever got one it'd end up being scuffed, or in the case of the nano, broken... |
| 17:32:57 | godzirra | I hate the touch screen. |
| 17:33:03 | godzirra | I detest it actually. |
| 17:33:05 | godzirra | Castlevania... |
| 17:33:09 | godzirra | the genre of champions |
| 17:33:12 | godzirra | BLEW GOATS |
| 17:33:20 | godzirra | because you had to do this stupid magic seal crap on the touch screen. |
| 17:33:26 | saa[b_r]ider | the Micro looks so old school.... |
| 17:33:55 | saa[b_r]ider | but nothing tops running home brew on the PSP! |
| 17:34:02 | preglow | i can think of a few things... |
| 17:34:24 | saa[b_r]ider | such as :) |
| 17:34:27 | preglow | a beer! |
| 17:34:39 | saa[b_r]ider | hehehe... is it time already? |
| 17:34:44 | preglow | 'fraid it is |
| 17:35:14 | saa[b_r]ider | hmm... maybe a cup of tea for me ;) |
| 17:35:48 | godzirra | I got the special edition micro |
| 17:35:49 | godzirra | its neat :) |
| 17:35:56 | godzirra | its like metallic maroon adn gold. |
| 17:35:57 | godzirra | heh |
| 17:36:29 | godzirra | I still need to buy a GBA flash cart to run homebrew :/ |
| 17:36:44 | Paprica | mm what is GPL ? |
| 17:36:54 | saa[b_r]ider | preglow, carefull not to drop your nano in your pint :) |
| 17:36:54 | godzirra | google is your friend, mmkay? |
| 17:37:27 | saa[b_r]ider | look who's talking, Mr. "DAP?" |
| 17:37:29 | saa[b_r]ider | ;) |
| 17:37:32 | godzirra | heh |
| 17:38:13 | godzirra | google DAP... the first 10 pages are NOT about digital audio players :) |
| 17:38:22 | godzirra | google GPL. The first 10 ARE about the license. :) |
| 17:39:35 | * | saa[b_r]ider recommends to godzirra to check-out www.dapreview.net , so he can get depressed |
| 17:40:04 | godzirra | heh. |
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| 17:49:35 | lostlogic | shure E500, 3 separate drivers in an in-ear!? PTH sounds great, would definitely use it at work. |
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| 17:52:09 | muesli__ | how much? |
| 17:53:30 | lostlogic | $500 MSRP |
| 17:53:38 | muesli__ | msrp? |
| 17:53:48 | lostlogic | Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price |
| 17:54:00 | muesli__ | ah..nobody cares about it |
| 17:54:40 | lostlogic | Shure has a pretty small dealer network so they are usually priced close to MSRP... only place I've found otherwise is always on the edge of losing their sales relationship (discountheadphones.com) |
| 17:54:49 | muesli__ | ok |
| 17:55:01 | godzirra | whats a pmp? |
| 17:55:03 | muesli__ | i am just using ultimate ears eb with 2drivers |
| 17:55:08 | godzirra | nevermind |
| 17:55:08 | muesli__ | portable media player |
| 17:55:24 | muesli__ | "just" 180$ |
| 17:56:18 | lostlogic | *nod* I have Shure E3, single driver... sometime in the next year I'll probably upgrade to something new and shiny |
| 17:58:25 | muesli__ | what player are u using? |
| 17:59:10 | lostlogic | H340 international |
| 17:59:56 | muesli__ | how's your hissing? are all of them doing that? |
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| 18:11:37 | lostlogic | muesli__: it's audible for sure, but music at -65dB hides it completely |
| 18:11:41 | mirak | my sound card behave so weird on linux (sblive 5.1) that it's simple for me to just plug the H300 !! |
| 18:11:52 | mirak | simpler |
| 18:12:13 | mirak | simplier, whatever word it is, it's easyer ^^ |
| 18:12:20 | lostlogic | I love the playlist handling of rockbox so much more than that of winamp or xmms so I just use iRiver to play all my music |
| 18:12:57 | mirak | well I don't have figured out yet how to use rockbox playlist |
| 18:13:11 | mirak | lostlogic: how do you do ? :) |
| 18:13:24 | mirak | it |
| 18:13:46 | lostlogic | I like to listen to whole albums, so I just select the album I want in the browser, long nav, playlist, insert... then while that album is playing, I can choose the next album by hitting nav, selecting another album, long nav, playlist, insert last |
| 18:14:38 | mirak | lostlogic: how do you choose the album ? |
| 18:15:03 | mirak | lostlogic: do you need to enable database or something ? |
| 18:15:12 | lostlogic | mirak: that's how I have my music sorted, so it's just like "music\artist\album" in the dir browser |
| 18:15:29 | mirak | I have this sorting too |
| 18:15:46 | mirak | well one thing I don't like in all the music players |
| 18:15:54 | mirak | it's that you can't queue an album |
| 18:16:01 | mirak | you queue all the songs |
| 18:16:05 | mirak | of an album |
| 18:16:20 | mirak | but not the album. So you can't easily change the album orders |
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| 18:16:40 | mirak | lostlogic: can you do that with rockbox ? |
| 18:16:48 | lostlogic | mirak: no |
| 18:17:11 | mirak | I don't understand why you can't find this feature anywhere |
| 18:17:18 | discombobulated | can you create playlists within rockbox |
| 18:17:18 | discombobulated | ? |
| 18:17:22 | godzirra | So who do I put in feature requests to? :) |
| 18:17:24 | godzirra | discombobulated: yes. |
| 18:17:32 | discombobulated | how godzirra? |
| 18:17:58 | godzirra | No idea. If you hold down the play button on a directory ouy can add that directory to ap laylist |
| 18:18:01 | godzirra | but I'm horrible at getting it to work |
| 18:18:04 | discombobulated | not that it really matters now :@ :'( |
| 18:18:13 | godzirra | I generate my playlists outside of rockbox and just put them in the right directories on my mp3 player :) |
| 18:18:20 | discombobulated | same |
| 18:18:37 | discombobulated | TDT's playlist editor is great |
| 18:18:41 | godzirra | TDT? |
| 18:18:49 | discombobulated | Tag Database Tool |
| 18:18:53 | godzirra | ahh |
| 18:19:06 | discombobulated | sorts out your tags, puts files in folders e.t.c |
| 18:19:21 | discombobulated | great piece of software, very iriver orientated |
| 18:19:39 | godzirra | linux or windows? |
| 18:19:55 | discombobulated | not sure if it is multi, but i use it on xp |
| 18:19:57 | mirak | lostlogic: I think there should imbricated playlists. That's how the sorting of albums could be possible |
| 18:20:15 | mirak | you could as well sort the songs inside an album |
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| 18:21:59 | lostlogic | imbricated? |
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| 18:23:42 | mirak | yep just one level would enough |
| 18:23:47 | godzirra | Yes. imbricated, v. Implicated in inbreeding. |
| 18:23:53 | godzirra | :) |
| 18:24:11 | godzirra | Seriously though. what does imbricated mean? |
| 18:24:17 | mirak | I mean you have a list of objects. This objects can be either a song or a playlist |
| 18:24:27 | godzirra | Ahh. That'd be cool. |
| 18:24:50 | mirak | I find rockbox keys really weird |
| 18:24:54 | lostlogic | rockbox memory playlists are very simple pointer structures, that's why they're so fast... adding complexity to them would probably be discouraged, although I'm not a dev so that's just a guess. |
| 18:25:25 | mirak | I mean why having a long press with NAVI to acces to the functions like sorting or deleting. |
| 18:25:39 | godzirra | Yeah, I can never remember which keys are which |
| 18:25:51 | mirak | when you will probably need it more than just chosing with short press |
| 18:26:05 | lostlogic | I do find the long press for context menu to be strange |
| 18:26:34 | mirak | for it's would be better to have a long press to play a new sound. |
| 18:27:11 | mirak | because once you play you don't push other keys after that, while when you enter in a menu you need again to push other key |
| 18:27:15 | saa[b_r]ider | different people will have different opinions on this... |
| 18:27:35 | saa[b_r]ider | some people just "select a track" to play |
| 18:27:44 | saa[b_r]ider | some want to create playlists |
| 18:28:03 | godzirra | saab, who do I make recommendations to for features Iwant? (Or want BACK actually) |
| 18:28:07 | godzirra | or is it just me that the wps isnt loading for? |
| 18:28:10 | godzirra | on startup? |
| 18:28:18 | mirak | yes but entering a menue have less consequences than hitting accidentaly play |
| 18:28:20 | saa[b_r]ider | I think it's just you... |
| 18:28:31 | saa[b_r]ider | try to download a new build |
| 18:28:45 | godzirra | Ok. |
| 18:29:00 | godzirra | daily? |
| 18:29:09 | godzirra | or bleeding edge? |
| 18:29:15 | lostlogic | godzirra: you can post them as feature requests on sourceforge |
| 18:29:29 | godzirra | lostlogic: well, its a feature that apparently just doesnt work for me :) |
| 18:29:33 | godzirra | It used to work until I updated. |
| 18:29:37 | saa[b_r]ider | what ever you want... if there's a new feature that has been implemented that isn't in the daily yet, get the bleeding |
| 18:29:40 | lostlogic | oh that |
| 18:29:59 | godzirra | I just want my wps's to work right :) |
| 18:30:00 | lostlogic | I don't think anything has changed since the last daily build −− according to the webstie |
| 18:30:15 | saa[b_r]ider | Mirak: and regarding sorting albums, you mean the track order within an album? |
| 18:30:37 | saa[b_r]ider | (just explaining the difference between the two) |
| 18:30:40 | mirak | saa[b_r]ider: secondarily why not |
| 18:31:06 | mirak | but for me the most important would to be able to queue an album as a whole |
| 18:31:40 | mirak | then if you queue another album, beeing able to change the order of the album |
| 18:31:50 | mirak | (not the songs inside the album) |
| 18:32:07 | mirak | this comes from the usage I have of cd's. I most of the time play a cd in a row |
| 18:32:09 | saa[b_r]ider | you want to change which album to play first? |
| 18:32:30 | mirak | saa[b_r]ider: yes. and be able to select the order of multiple albums |
| 18:32:44 | mirak | some time I add things to playlist, then change my mind |
| 18:32:50 | lostlogic | yeah, it would be nice to be able to "insert as next album" as opposed to "insert album after this song" |
| 18:32:51 | mirak | so I need to change all the songs |
| 18:33:03 | saa[b_r]ider | then just insert the albums to the playlist in the order you want in the first place |
| 18:33:13 | mirak | saa[b_r]ider: hehe |
| 18:33:28 | godzirra | weird. it works now. |
| 18:33:35 | saa[b_r]ider | hahahaha... |
| 18:33:40 | godzirra | heh |
| 18:33:41 | godzirra | thanks |
| 18:33:47 | saa[b_r]ider | well at least you don't have to worry about it anymore! |
| 18:33:51 | godzirra | Yup! |
| 18:33:57 | godzirra | Because I was stressing about it, lemme tell ya :) |
| 18:34:11 | saa[b_r]ider | mirak: I hope you know the difference between queue and insert in RB |
| 18:34:13 | godzirra | Someone recommend some good music. I need something new :/ |
| 18:34:20 | godzirra | saa[b_r]ider: I dont. What is it? |
| 18:34:29 | mirak | saa[b_r]ider: but what I am talking about is about any music player, software or hardware. |
| 18:34:33 | godzirra | I assume insert inserts at the current place? and queue puts them at the end? |
| 18:34:45 | mirak | saa[b_r]ider: I am discovering it. I never used queues in rockbox |
| 18:34:55 | godzirra | whats the diff? |
| 18:35:00 | saa[b_r]ider | insert adds the track to the playlist, and it stays after it's played... |
| 18:35:06 | godzirra | ah |
| 18:35:16 | godzirra | and queue does...? |
| 18:35:23 | saa[b_r]ider | queue adds the track, and after it's played, it's not in the playlist anymore |
| 18:35:28 | godzirra | neat. |
| 18:35:35 | saa[b_r]ider | for tracks you only want to play once... |
| 18:35:41 | godzirra | So someone... recommend good music. for me. I'm bored. :) |
| 18:35:56 | mirak | godzirra: Primus |
| 18:36:09 | mirak | it's fun and bizarre |
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| 18:36:16 | godzirra | I've got primus. Plenty. I need new :) |
| 18:36:20 | saa[b_r]ider | say you have a playlist, and a mate wanted to listen to a certain song (while you used your DAP in the car), but you didn't want this track in your playlist for the future, you just use queue |
| 18:36:29 | godzirra | Gotcha. Makes sense. |
| 18:36:30 | godzirra | thats kinda cool. |
| 18:36:36 | godzirra | I can never get my playlists saved right. |
| 18:36:39 | mirak | godzirra: you have all the full length albums ? |
| 18:36:46 | godzirra | mirak: I work for a music store. |
| 18:36:48 | saa[b_r]ider | I tell you, they thought of everything! |
| 18:36:56 | godzirra | mirak: I don't currently, but I could. |
| 18:37:00 | godzirra | I have a few of em. |
| 18:37:26 | saa[b_r]ider | godzirra, can't get them saved on RB, or on your PC? |
| 18:37:36 | godzirra | Rb. |
| 18:37:41 | godzirra | on the pc I just use perl to make one for me :) |
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| 18:37:57 | saa[b_r]ider | what problem do you have in RB? |
| 18:38:10 | saa[b_r]ider | they don't playback after saving them? |
| 18:38:10 | godzirra | I don't ever use their playlist editor, mostly :) |
| 18:38:17 | godzirra | Nah, its a user operation error. |
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| 18:38:53 | saa[b_r]ider | it's pretty easy. and so damn cool. |
| 18:38:56 | mirak | saa[b_r]ider: how do you blank the playlist ? |
| 18:39:11 | saa[b_r]ider | push "stop" |
| 18:39:20 | saa[b_r]ider | go to the playlist menu |
| 18:39:33 | saa[b_r]ider | actually |
| 18:39:45 | godzirra | how do you save a playlist? |
| 18:39:52 | saa[b_r]ider | after stop, go to the new track/album you want to add... |
| 18:40:02 | godzirra | I added a few albums. I think. |
| 18:40:09 | saa[b_r]ider | long push navi, |
| 18:40:51 | saa[b_r]ider | and in the playlist menu, it will ask you if you want to insert, (it won't give you the "view current playlist" option) |
| 18:41:01 | godzirra | I dont have that option. |
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| 18:41:12 | godzirra | just insert, insert next, insert last, queue, queue next queue last. |
| 18:41:36 | godzirra | can you not insert directories? |
| 18:41:46 | saa[b_r]ider | yes you can... |
| 18:42:04 | godzirra | ahh |
| 18:42:07 | godzirra | i wasnt long holding |
| 18:42:07 | saa[b_r]ider | just select it, and just like you add a track, add a directory |
| 18:42:08 | mirak | I don't understand why the music can be stopped when not on the play screen |
| 18:42:31 | mirak | from browser screen you can stop |
| 18:42:37 | mirak | weird |
| 18:42:57 | saa[b_r]ider | godzirra, you need to know the difference between "file browser" and "playlist" |
| 18:44:28 | saa[b_r]ider | if you click navi once, you enter the file browser... to enter the current playlist, you must long press navi, go to playlist menu, view current playlist |
| 18:44:40 | godzirra | thanks for all your help. Gotta run for a physical. |
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| 18:44:57 | saa[b_r]ider | sure |
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| 18:45:33 | Josh04 | Markun, are you there? I need some help :P |
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| 19:05:47 | Henbob | Hey, can someone here help me out please? |
| 19:06:56 | * | amiconn has a suspicion what godzirra's wps problem is |
| 19:06:59 | preglow | just ask |
| 19:07:02 | amiconn | Unfortunately he's gone |
| 19:07:24 | Henbob | Is there a rockbox for the iRiver H320 in the UK? |
| 19:07:40 | preglow | hmm? |
| 19:07:48 | preglow | you mean the uk model of h320? |
| 19:07:57 | Henbob | Yeh |
| 19:08:06 | preglow | ewll, yeah, that's a standard eu model, i'd believe |
| 19:08:08 | preglow | rockbox runs on that |
| 19:08:16 | preglow | afaik |
| 19:08:38 | Henbob | I got the patcher thing and it said something like "Unrecognised Firmware" |
| 19:09:24 | preglow | is that so |
| 19:09:29 | Henbob | Yep |
| 19:09:32 | preglow | and you're sure the hex file is unmodified? |
| 19:09:33 | Henbob | Any ideas? |
| 19:09:37 | Henbob | Yep |
| 19:09:51 | preglow | where'd you get it? |
| 19:10:07 | Henbob | I should try again. My mate told me how to do it, so i'm not sure, could you give me the links to the downloads i need please? |
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| 19:10:57 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
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| 19:14:45 | Henbob | Right, got that HEX, now what? |
| 19:18:18 | preglow | just follow the instructions on the page |
| 19:18:51 | preglow | wtf |
| 19:19:09 | preglow | didn't there use to be instructions? |
| 19:19:55 | preglow | just get fwpatcher and patch the hex file, then flash it |
| 19:20:28 | Henbob | .............no idea |
| 19:20:38 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall |
| 19:20:40 | preglow | there it is |
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| 19:25:35 | Henbob | Too complicated |
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| 19:33:50 | muesli__ | *g* |
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| 19:56:18 | saa[b_r]ider | amicon: what do you think his problem was? cause it's gone already, and no one knows how :) |
| 19:56:44 | saa[b_r]ider | (godzirra's problem that is) |
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| 20:20:12 | Febs | Is it possible to turn on the H100/H300's internal microphone and monitor it while music is playing? |
| 20:21:04 | Febs | The reason I ask is because I was just reading about the new Shure H500, which has a "Push to Hear" accessory that allows you to hear the world around you while wearing IEMs. It could be a useful feature if the hardware allows it. |
| 20:21:49 | preglow | sure, i should think so |
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| 20:25:54 | Snifffurt | hello |
| 20:25:58 | * | Febs wishes he had the skill to implement such a feature himself or the time to learn to do so. |
| 20:27:13 | preglow | but i quite definitely think it's possible |
| 20:27:28 | preglow | no rockbox time for me these days, though |
| 20:27:58 | Snifffurt | Maybe I missed this bit of information... so If this is available at the rockbox www page... please tell me... But Is it easily possible to turn back to the vendors firmware with a iriver ihp-140 after flashing the rockbox firmware? eg. does the rockbox firmware support flashing the iriver firmware back? Is there a risk to trash my iriver ihp-140? |
| 20:28:35 | Febs | Snifffurt, check out the IriverFAQ page on the wiki. (I'll grab a link.) |
| 20:29:00 | Febs | There is no flash routine in Rockbox, but Rockbox has a dual-boot feature, so you can always start the iriver firmware to re-flash. |
| 20:29:04 | Snifffurt | Febs: I've been having a eye on the iriver FAQ thow |
| 20:29:30 | Febs | Look at the FAQ on uninstalling Rockbox. That answers your question. |
| 20:29:38 | Snifffurt | ah |
| 20:29:47 | Snifffurt | I haven't looked on that one |
| 20:29:48 | Snifffurt | thx |
| 20:30:17 | Febs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ#I_ve_installed_Rockbox_but_I_wan |
| 20:30:32 | Snifffurt | Febs: thx allot |
| 20:31:19 | Febs | There is information here as well: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#Uninstalling_Rockbox |
| 20:32:37 | Snifffurt | Febs: I'm looking forward to try rockbox then. I've used to like rockbox allot back at my old archos device. :-) |
| 20:40:46 | preglow | then you wont be disappointet |
| 20:40:48 | preglow | d |
| 20:41:29 | Snifffurt | preglow: I think you're right. I've been having a look at the feature comparrison chart ;-) |
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| 20:45:57 | muesli__ | Snifffurt which player? |
| 20:46:47 | muesli__ | ah h140... check http://www.rockbox-lounge.de/viewtopic.php?t=3 |
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| 21:04:43 | saa[b_r]ider | lostlogic: are you using the "add color to WPS" patch? |
| 21:09:21 | lostlogic | saa[b_r]ider: no, just bitching about it on patchtracker |
| 21:11:39 | saa[b_r]ider | any idea how this patch is used? does it involve using tags in the .wps file for adding color? |
| 21:12:39 | lostlogic | yeah |
| 21:12:59 | lostlogic | the current patch is one color per line I think, not positive |
| 21:13:38 | saa[b_r]ider | so this only affects the WPS... hmm it's a start I guess |
| 21:16:22 | Snifffurt | muesli__: ah thx |
| 21:19:13 | saa[b_r]ider | after a patch is applied, isn't the original .c file supposed to be backed up as .c.orig or something? |
| 21:28:56 | lostlogic | saa[b_r]ider: only if there are questionable applications |
| 21:29:02 | lostlogic | saa[b_r]ider: if it applies cleanly they don |
| 21:29:05 | lostlogic | 't get saved |
| 21:31:00 | saa[b_r]ider | lostlogic: after patching I got "patching file filetree.c", but when I compiled, I think the batch wasn't actually made |
| 21:31:13 | saa[b_r]ider | because it didn't do what it was supposed to do |
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| 21:31:43 | saa[b_r]ider | what's the command for creating diff? |
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| 21:31:52 | lostlogic | are you in a CVS tree? |
| 21:31:57 | lostlogic | then just cvs diff -u |
| 21:32:12 | saa[b_r]ider | actually, I have the source |
| 21:32:25 | lostlogic | diff -u fileold filenew |
| 21:32:57 | saa[b_r]ider | diff -u fileold filenew file.diff (right?) |
| 21:34:10 | petur | Febs: about that 'push to hear the world around you' - the audio chip has the ability to mix channels, it needs some investigation but I think it's possible... |
| 21:35:17 | * | petur will now try if champagne inhibits the possibility to code for RB. Previous attempts showed Belgian bear was not compatible ;) |
| 21:36:07 | petur | *beer |
| 21:36:50 | Febs | Petur, I think it would be a great feature. I had thought about it a number of times before, even before I read about the Shure accessory. |
| 21:37:16 | Febs | I would gladly purchase some beer (Belgian or otherwise) for anyone who would be willing to take on the task of coding it! |
| 21:37:51 | preglow | damn |
| 21:37:54 | preglow | you're making this hard |
| 21:38:11 | Febs | :) |
| 21:38:29 | preglow | they've just imported some fancy trappist beer here |
| 21:38:38 | lostlogic | hehe, or you could just buy PTH headphones like those coming out from Shure ;) |
| 21:38:53 | petur | which one (trappist)? |
| 21:38:57 | preglow | rochefort |
| 21:39:02 | petur | wow |
| 21:39:12 | petur | the first one I got drunk off |
| 21:39:15 | preglow | haha |
| 21:39:19 | preglow | i'd imagine it's not too hard |
| 21:39:19 | Febs | lostlogic, I have too many Shure headphones as it is! (E2, E3, E4) |
| 21:39:39 | petur | just needed 3 of them (wasn't that old) |
| 21:39:50 | preglow | hell, i wouldn't need that much of it as is |
| 21:40:00 | thegeek | Febs : wow |
| 21:40:02 | preglow | i get easily drunk these days, and the stuff is strong |
| 21:40:18 | preglow | 11.3%, ahhh.... |
| 21:40:19 | thegeek | how do you find the bass and midtones of the E3 compared to the two others? |
| 21:40:38 | petur | at work we drink Leffe on fridays (except today - newyears drink) |
| 21:40:42 | Febs | Yeah, I also have a pair of Koss KSC-75s and just bought Alessandro MS-1s. |
| 21:41:18 | preglow | ironically i can't get leffe here |
| 21:41:29 | Febs | thegeek: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34566 |
| 21:41:35 | lostlogic | Febs: oh yeah, I saw your review, nice BTW −− I don't think the E4 are worth upgrading to from the E3. |
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| 21:41:47 | lostlogic | Febs: oh yeah, I saw your review, nice BTW −− I don't think the E4 are worth upgrading to from the E3. |
| 21:41:52 | thegeek | ah;) |
| 21:41:54 | petur | preglow: strange, it is one of the more commercial beers... |
| 21:42:01 | preglow | petur: i know |
| 21:42:08 | preglow | rochefort, a-ok! leffe, no! |
| 21:42:25 | preglow | someone buy me a case of westvleteren, and i'll do whatever |
| 21:42:45 | thegeek | nice review Febs |
| 21:42:52 | Febs | Thanks. |
| 21:43:01 | petur | most Belgians prefer Rochefort, so enjoy it. Westvleteren is hard to get, even for us ;) |
| 21:43:15 | preglow | i know, which is why i want it, heh |
| 21:43:19 | thegeek | I already have the E3's, and while I am not a bass-head at all, I do find the bass a bit lacking sometimes |
| 21:43:42 | dpassen1 | I have e2c's and I barely use them these days. |
| 21:45:08 | thegeek | these e3's are actually my third pair, got replaced two times because of bad wires(supposedly, sound was fucked up) |
| 21:45:32 | dpassen1 | KSC-35s are my everyday headphones. |
| 21:45:34 | thegeek | so even though I initially bought the e3's over two years ago, I have a almost brand new set ;) |
| 21:46:20 | muesli__ | ksc-35's werent really useful in my opinion |
| 21:46:44 | muesli__ | too mute, not convient to wear..not my cup of tea |
| 21:47:09 | preglow | this reminds me i need new earphones |
| 21:47:09 | dpassen1 | hit or miss, i suppose |
| 21:47:58 | dpassen1 | My friend has a pair of e4c's. I tried them with the triflange tips, sounded great. |
| 21:47:59 | thegeek | I wish I could have the sound and comfort of my sennheiser 595's without the size;) |
| 21:48:36 | lostlogic | I should have a shure quitespot boom cell phone handsfree waiting at home when I get there today |
| 21:48:38 | Snifffurt | I have to thank the devs for the great rockbox iriver firmware. It is great. It shows twice as much info as the iriver firmware while playing on half of the display size. And it shows 10x directories in the directory browser. Well done |
| 21:48:47 | lostlogic | really looking forward to not having to use my clunky crappy earbud any more |
| 21:49:54 | preglow | hear hera! |
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| 21:52:03 | preglow | Febs: but yeah, if you can think of a nice way to make such a feature into a setting, chances are bigger it'll happen |
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| 22:02:22 | petur | which source file contains the recording settings menu? |
| 22:02:53 | saa[b_r]ider | wow, you can listen to the radio in USB mode! |
| 22:03:20 | preglow | sure |
| 22:03:55 | preglow | radio doesn't use the disk |
| 22:04:12 | mirak | is it possible to not enable usb when the cable is pluggued and charging the battery instead ? |
| 22:04:48 | _FireFly_ | mirak: not on iriver |
| 22:05:18 | mirak | but with iriver firmware when we plug usb cable it doesn't directly go in UMS mode |
| 22:05:23 | mirak | it starts to charge first |
| 22:05:30 | mirak | then you need to push play |
| 22:05:36 | mirak | to enter chage mode |
| 22:05:57 | saa[b_r]ider | wait for the next bootloader |
| 22:06:15 | mirak | I am patient |
| 22:06:16 | saa[b_r]ider | I think it will be supported then |
| 22:06:17 | mirak | :) |
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| 22:06:48 | mirak | what we don't know if supported is UMS + charging from usb at the same time |
| 22:07:17 | saa[b_r]ider | would that be possible? |
| 22:07:34 | mirak | would be nice, but we don't know |
| 22:08:09 | mirak | iriver firmware doesn't propose that |
| 22:08:28 | mirak | in fact iriver firmware don't allow to charge with usb and listen music |
| 22:08:54 | mirak | that's a pity too |
| 22:09:08 | saa[b_r]ider | on the H300, after saving a radio preset, isn't long press A-B supposed to toggle between scan and preset modes? |
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| 22:09:25 | mirak | don't remember |
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| 22:10:28 | saa[b_r]ider | oh god, this is the worst radio program ever (listening to the change in vegetable prices!!!!!) |
| 22:10:44 | saa[b_r]ider | NOW FRUITS! |
| 22:11:28 | saa[b_r]ider | I added a new preset station, and now I can't have the radio return to "scan mode" |
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| 22:14:57 | saa[b_r]ider | anyone? |
| 22:16:57 | * | saa[b_r]ider slaps saa[b_r]ider around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:17:10 | saa[b_r]ider | that was fun |
| 22:17:55 | Josh04 | Gah. Is there anyone here who has had a fiddle around with the gigabeat bootloader? |
| 22:19:34 | * | preglow points to markun |
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| 22:23:24 | Josh04 | :P I've been here since 4, and markun hasn't been on. |
| 22:29:31 | petur | saa[b_r]ider: press 'play' long to switch |
| 22:31:21 | saa[b_r]ider | you caught me right before I was about to make a post in the forum :) |
| 22:32:02 | petur | it's very straight-forward ;) |
| 22:33:14 | petur | can you save a preset without it crashing? (on H3xx) |
| 22:33:52 | saa[b_r]ider | paly was the only button I didn't long press!! (it's 5 am and I didn't sleep yet) |
| 22:34:35 | saa[b_r]ider | I have no problems saving a preset, but autoscan preset doesn't seem to work. I'll remove the preset file and try again |
| 22:36:13 | petur | this is weird: saving a preset works again. Must have been gcc 4.0.2 as well??? |
| 22:37:32 | saa[b_r]ider | well, 3 presets, they work like a charm... |
| 22:40:03 | petur | sorry to have bothered... I'm glad I switched to gcc 3.4.5... |
| 22:40:52 | * | saa[b_r]ider wonders what gcc is |
| 22:41:01 | petur | the compiler |
| 22:41:12 | petur | (used to build RB) |
| 22:41:19 | saa[b_r]ider | oh... |
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| 22:41:38 | petur | seems that when I build RB with gcc 4.0.2, I got weird crashes |
| 22:42:57 | saa[b_r]ider | I used the dev kit to compile RB under windows. it's supposed to be gcc-based as well, right? |
| 22:43:11 | Bagder | it is a stripped-down cygwin |
| 22:43:15 | petur | yeah - uses some older version |
| 22:43:17 | Bagder | so yes it is gcc |
| 22:44:02 | * | saa[b_r]ider is AMAZED at what he can hear listening through the record screen! |
| 22:44:23 | saa[b_r]ider | but autopresets still don't work, right? |
| 22:46:19 | petur | haven't tried yet |
| 22:46:56 | BHSPitMonkey | if the rockbox bootloader is a stripped down version of rockbox, what boots IT? :P |
| 22:48:42 | Bagder | the iriver flashed firmware |
| 22:49:17 | Bagder | the bootloader isn't actually "booted" it is more "started" |
| 22:50:15 | Josh04 | Right.... so markun is the only one who can possibly help me, and he has been idle for 3 days. Oh crap *cires* |
| 22:50:52 | Bagder | Josh04: he's here regularly so have patience |
| 22:51:03 | Josh04 | But I have borked my mp3 :P |
| 22:51:06 | saa[b_r]ider | josh, I think he's been around. only it's the weekend now, and his status says that he's at a birthday ;) |
| 22:51:07 | Bagder | or post a Q in the forum |
| 22:51:10 | Bagder | or so |
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| 22:51:56 | petur | I think I saw markun online earlier today... |
| 22:52:01 | saa[b_r]ider | just as bagder said, he's around, and you can always post at the new RB Gigabeat forum |
| 22:52:01 | Josh04 | I'm just impatient with worry. I stuck a windows formatted boot script where you should only stick linux formatted text, and so my gigabeat is not working... |
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| 22:52:58 | Josh04 | Okay, will do. I'm just rather paranodi. |
| 22:54:30 | Josh04 | I use it constantly and I'm really pissed with myself |
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| 23:25:15 | Josh04 | I'm wondering whether I can simply remove the hard disk and plug it into a pc. |
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| 23:29:02 | Josh04 | Does anyone know whether that'd work? It's an ATA-100 hard disk, with what looks like a standard IDE interface, though if not I could probably wangle an adapter. I don't want to go taking it apart without reason though. I may be able to get somewhere through the USB2 - IDE bridge. *Sighs*Its all so complex. |
| 23:29:53 | Bagder | 1.8" adapters are rare |
| 23:30:25 | Josh04 | Do they use a different connecter? |
| 23:30:35 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:32:11 | Josh04 | Hmmm. Thats another idea out the window. |
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| 23:35:52 | mirak | Josh04: I have seen on a news there is a pci card to put a laptop drive into a pc |
| 23:36:37 | HCl | i had no trouble buying an 1.8" adapter.. |
| 23:36:46 | HCl | cost me like 7 euro or so |
| 23:36:53 | mirak | why did you do that ? |
| 23:37:03 | HCl | i had a broken laptop with a broken cdrom |
| 23:37:07 | HCl | had to get its harddisk out |
| 23:37:09 | Bagder | mirak: laptop drives are generally 2.5" |
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| 23:37:13 | HCl | to be able to install an os onto it. |
| 23:37:21 | HCl | hm |
| 23:37:27 | HCl | wait, maybe i'm mixing it up with 2.5 o.o |
| 23:37:37 | Bagder | 2.5" adapters are everywhere |
| 23:37:43 | * | HCl nods |
| 23:37:52 | * | HCl goes back to being idle |
| 23:37:54 | mirak | why does he want to do that ? |
| 23:38:01 | Josh04 | I'm looking at it on the net, why do they make it so hard to see the connecter? |
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| 23:39:37 | Josh04 | $9 on ebay |
| 23:39:47 | Josh04 | for what looks to be the right thing |
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| 23:56:30 | preglow | got dAMN |
| 23:56:33 | preglow | praised be ubuntu |
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