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00:01:35 | amiconn | Not elf? ;) |
00:01:49 | preglow | haha |
00:01:53 | preglow | i'm not completely insane |
00:02:02 | preglow | if this is ever to work, it needs to be relatively low complex |
00:02:21 | preglow | one problem i can see already is that we sometimes use longer section names than coff can handle :P |
00:02:36 | preglow | hmm, no, that's just in the intermediate files |
00:02:58 | preglow | the resulting files will only have .text, .data, .bss and the .ixxxx variants, yes? |
00:03:12 | amiconn | Plu s.rodata |
00:03:20 | amiconn | *Plus .rodata |
00:03:32 | preglow | will do |
00:03:37 | preglow | i think the limit is eight characters |
00:03:40 | preglow | which is lame, but yeah, low complex |
00:04:17 | preglow | but you agree on the macro stuff? |
00:04:53 | amiconn | A dynamic loader would be somewhat like dreaded malloc() ... |
00:05:17 | preglow | can't see how it's even comparable |
00:06:12 | amiconn | You could load several plugins/codecs, but how many depends on how large they are, and in what order you load them, provided you unload some of them inbetween |
00:06:47 | preglow | ahh, yes, but only in the same way we reserve memory for plugins anyway these days |
00:06:54 | preglow | we would have a single buffer where all would have to go |
00:06:56 | amiconn | Of course we could define a number of fixed-size buffers |
00:07:00 | preglow | configurable, of course |
00:07:02 | preglow | in size |
00:08:02 | preglow | but yeah, i understand the issue |
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00:08:12 | preglow | i just firmly believe this is a problem we're going to have to deal with sooner or later anyway |
00:08:15 | * | markun found out that the Gigabeat has SRAM after all. 4kB of it :) |
00:08:23 | preglow | i'll probably try making a dynamic loader anyway, just to educate myself |
00:08:26 | preglow | markun: no iram? |
00:08:31 | preglow | markun: or is that it? |
00:08:51 | markun | It has 16kB data and 16kB code cache |
00:08:57 | preglow | yeah, cache |
00:08:59 | markun | no IRAM |
00:09:05 | petur | gdnight all |
00:09:08 | preglow | petur: night |
00:09:08 | markun | but you can use the bootup SRAM |
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00:09:11 | preglow | that's a decent amount anyway |
00:09:43 | markun | Would be make sense to use the bootup SRAM? |
00:09:52 | markun | s/be/it/ |
00:10:20 | preglow | why no |
00:10:22 | preglow | t? |
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00:11:54 | markun | It's connected to the NAND flash controller, maybe that makes it slower to access |
00:13:08 | preglow | ahh, right |
00:13:12 | preglow | it probably is |
00:13:18 | preglow | should be quick to test |
00:14:32 | Bagder | bootup sram? |
00:14:39 | markun | yes |
00:14:40 | Bagder | isn't that what we call iram usually? |
00:14:49 | markun | don't know |
00:14:52 | Bagder | a little pieace of ram on the chip itself |
00:16:14 | preglow | noh |
00:16:15 | preglow | oh <- |
00:16:19 | preglow | i thought it was external |
00:17:00 | Bagder | is it? |
00:17:09 | Bagder | I know my ARM at work has it internal |
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00:20:39 | preglow | makes most sense |
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00:21:31 | lodesi | just sent a japanese learning plugin on the patch tracker |
00:21:44 | lodesi | if someone want to try |
00:21:50 | lodesi | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1399977&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
00:24:03 | preglow | sounds cool |
00:24:14 | preglow | wish i had this five years ago when i actually tried learning :> |
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00:24:52 | lodesi | that's why i did it, if i can learn kanjis this way, it would be really cool :) |
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04:25:34 | Membrillo | any able to add an Ext. Mic option to recording source on H300? Just make it the same as line in but automatically add ADC gain |
04:25:39 | Membrillo | anyone* |
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05:04:29 | Jungti1234 | hi |
05:04:30 | Jungti1234 | http://aving.net/sp_edition/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=10339&sp_except=eng |
05:04:52 | Jungti1234 | Toshiba PMP |
05:06:01 | Jungti1234 | http://aving.net/sp_edition/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=10308 Gigabeat |
05:06:20 | Jungti1234 | http://aving.net/sp_edition/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=10380 ZEN PMP |
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06:40:33 | mithereal | is anyone here? |
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06:42:41 | mithereal | has anyone successfully flashed a gigabeat? |
06:43:04 | lostlogic | rockbox gigabeat doesn't work yet. |
06:43:31 | mithereal | oh ok i was readin a page that said they had an unofficial |
06:44:58 | lostlogic | markun has been working on it, but I don't think progress is anything beyond just booting and that appears flakey even. |
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06:49:50 | mithereal | well ne1 know how i can dump the old firmware well my friend that is he wants to try neways |
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07:40:26 | Bger | morning |
07:40:33 | Bger | lostlogic, are you here ? |
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07:50:03 | Bger | morning, B4gder , back to work ? ;) |
07:50:13 | B4gder | yeah |
07:50:18 | B4gder | the harsh cold reality |
07:51:14 | B4gder | no more working in my underware all day :-) |
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07:53:23 | Bger | hehe :) |
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08:35:46 | * | B4gder enjoys TFTP boot and root fs mounted on nfs |
08:36:17 | Bger | hehe:) |
08:38:41 | webguest88 | That is a neat trick |
08:39:24 | B4gder | its lovely |
08:39:45 | Bger | bootp or ? |
08:39:55 | B4gder | nah, plain TFTP |
08:40:12 | B4gder | my board runs u-boot that sucks over the kernel image via tftp |
08:43:45 | preglow | ahh, i thought this was your workstation setup |
08:44:02 | B4gder | :-) |
08:44:09 | Bger | ah, it isnt ? |
08:44:22 | Bger | some embed. system ? |
08:44:23 | B4gder | nah, its my little arm9 cutie |
08:44:23 | preglow | mounting root via nfs voluntarily would be insane |
08:46:27 | B4gder | yes. but for a tiny flash-based thing it is a dream |
08:47:10 | Bger | B4gder what's its purpose if it's not a secret ? (sorry if being too nosy) |
08:47:42 | B4gder | it is just the thing I've been working with last year, its a little RFID reader |
08:47:59 | B4gder | based on the atmel at91rm9200, arm920 core |
08:48:09 | B4gder | running linux |
08:48:19 | B4gder | I write just about all sw for it |
08:48:31 | Bger | ah, i understand :) sounds very good |
08:48:42 | B4gder | it is a neat and fun little toy |
08:49:28 | Bger | RFID is the follower of barcodes or i'm messing it up with something other |
08:49:54 | B4gder | yes, basically. You can "read" the RFID chip wirelessly |
08:50:12 | Bger | yep, that's what i mean |
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08:56:18 | preglow | bah, ofcourse, of course the light had to go bust |
08:56:23 | preglow | now my office is dark as well as cold |
08:56:42 | Bger | :)) |
08:57:51 | B4gder | so you IRC without electricity? ;-( |
08:57:55 | B4gder | :-) even |
08:58:24 | Bger | UPS ? |
08:58:30 | * | B4gder imagines preglow pedaling like a mad man to power his computers... |
08:58:31 | Bger | or mobile phone |
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09:10:12 | B4gder | morrn bjצrn |
09:10:20 | B4gder | oops |
09:10:54 | Zagor | :-) |
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09:28:17 | preglow | i am a mad man |
09:29:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | In the good way, or the "angry" way? |
09:30:31 | preglow | haha, good way of course |
09:31:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Good, good. |
09:31:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, why are you a mad man today? |
09:34:20 | preglow | what, i'm always mad |
09:34:38 | preglow | not any madder today than other days |
09:34:41 | preglow | tireder i am, though |
09:37:34 | preglow | hahaha |
09:37:37 | preglow | rockbox just went mad |
09:38:02 | preglow | starting cycling through files for some reason, couldn't make it stop, then it promptly stopped itself with "codec error" |
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09:43:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's a strange happening |
09:43:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mine's been skipping on the first song when I start playback |
09:43:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Usually there's be a half-second or so gap 3 times in maybe the first 10 seconds of playback. |
09:44:58 | preglow | i get that whenever it needs to buffer a new track |
09:45:08 | preglow | i think slasheri's tried to fix this about a hundred times now ;) |
09:45:42 | LinusN | i never get that |
09:46:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | It just started on mine shortly before the holidays. |
09:46:26 | webguest88 | Here's a fun one: Start playing a song, then add your top-level directory recursively to the playlist |
09:46:30 | webguest88 | Skipping guaranteed |
09:46:38 | LinusN | :-) |
09:46:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | It hadn't done it before, I don't believe. |
09:46:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'd kinda assumed my player was just creatively aging. |
09:48:12 | preglow | every time i insert a new dir, i get skip on the first track |
09:51:13 | preglow | hooray, lights are suddenly working |
09:51:43 | preglow | this just strengthens the theory of me being mad |
09:51:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hrm, I usually just play playlists I've set up, but any time I start playback, I get a few skips. |
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09:54:39 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: interesting. What bitrate the first song is? |
09:55:35 | * | markun just received a big envelope from Japan |
09:55:42 | B4gder | wooo |
09:56:42 | Bger | woot :) |
09:57:19 | markun | The CD reads: "GPL Source Code for gigabeat MEG-F40" |
09:57:30 | preglow | w0000t |
09:57:37 | preglow | image, image, quick |
09:57:59 | markun | iso or picture? |
09:58:03 | preglow | iso |
09:58:35 | preglow | lets hope nothing is missing |
09:58:47 | preglow | wouldn't surprise me a second if something turned out to be |
09:58:54 | psi | hi |
09:58:59 | preglow | hellos |
09:59:01 | markun | There is not much on it |
09:59:24 | markun | The only thing I couldn't have downloaded it the USB driver: legna-usb-ohci.tar.gz |
09:59:24 | psi | is anyone developing a level indicator for recording mode? |
09:59:48 | preglow | two hundred megabyte ram dump and a README with 'kekekeke' in it? ;) |
09:59:49 | markun | And maybe the wlan driver: linux-wlan-ng-0.2.0-gigabeat2-2.0.tar.gz |
09:59:49 | LinusN | psi: what's wrong with the current one? |
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10:00:23 | psi | using ext mic through line-in on the iriver, there's no way to tell if you're clipping |
10:00:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Slasheri: Sorry 'bout the slow response. It's independent of bitrate or format, as it'll happen on both flacs and MP3s. It's any song on my player, at least. |
10:00:46 | preglow | yep |
10:00:48 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: oh, then that is really weird.. |
10:00:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
10:01:03 | Slasheri | maybe the disk is worn out or something like that |
10:01:22 | preglow | mine too? :/ |
10:01:24 | Slasheri | markun: what, gigabeat has a wlan? :o |
10:01:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's kinda my feeling. The HD is finally beginning to show signs of age and being bumped off a table here or there. |
10:01:44 | markun | Slasheri: Maybe you can add a wlan USB NIC or something |
10:01:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've had it since a few weeks after the H120s started showing up in the US. |
10:01:52 | Slasheri | markun: ah, that sounds cool :) |
10:02:05 | Slasheri | markun: i have always wanted a wifi internet radio to my dap ;) |
10:02:13 | markun | :) |
10:02:24 | LinusN | psi: i wasn't aware that the peak meter didn't show the truth |
10:02:49 | psi | LinusN: are we talking about the h120? |
10:03:04 | LinusN | or the h300 |
10:03:46 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: ah, then that is probably the problem. It could be fixed by increasing the pre-buffering of the first song before starting playback |
10:04:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Slasheri: Is that a code change I'd have to make, or is that handled by the anti-skip buffer menu entry? |
10:04:30 | psi | LinusN: i was planning on purchasing a refurbished h120 off ebay, and all the reviews i've read from field recorders using the h120 as the recording device say that there is no level indicator with ext mic in... maybe it's different for the internal mic? |
10:04:49 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: nope, that needs a code change |
10:04:57 | LinusN | psi: you're talking about the iriver firmware |
10:05:09 | LinusN | psi: i'm talking about rockbox |
10:05:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Slasheri: All right. Perhaps I'll try that then. Though I was planning on just getting one of the 40gb single-platters at some point anyway. |
10:05:17 | psi | LinusN: ooh! so rockbox already has a peak meter implemeneted!? |
10:05:26 | LinusN | yes |
10:05:32 | psi | whoa |
10:05:52 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: hehe, sounds good :) |
10:06:00 | psi | guess i skipped over that one on the features list ;] |
10:06:18 | LinusN | psi: we don't list obvious things as features |
10:06:28 | Slasheri | probably you should do a little modification to playback.c to allow it pre-buffer more at once |
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10:07:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, it shouldn't be too big of a problem |
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10:11:07 | LinusN | you would believe that the anti-skip setting would help in this case |
10:11:34 | preglow | hmm |
10:11:43 | preglow | i think the antiskip settings works differently for iriver than for archosd |
10:11:48 | LinusN | as a user, i mean |
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10:12:40 | preglow | yeah, sure, i was just trying to make someone clear up what the differences are :) |
10:12:59 | LinusN | i have no idea how the iriver playback works |
10:13:13 | LinusN | only that it seems awfully complicated |
10:13:24 | LinusN | compared to the archos |
10:14:10 | preglow | i think the archos one looks pretty complicated as well... |
10:14:24 | preglow | LinusN: btw, what's your position on having plugins be coff format? :) |
10:14:46 | LinusN | the archos playback code is far from trivial as well |
10:15:14 | LinusN | preglow: you mean dynamic relocation? |
10:15:23 | preglow | yeah |
10:15:34 | preglow | primarily |
10:15:40 | LinusN | give me a reason |
10:15:41 | preglow | we'll also get proper section handling |
10:15:53 | preglow | loading of multiple plugins of some type |
10:15:57 | preglow | for example dsp plugins |
10:16:04 | preglow | without doing some ugly linking kludge |
10:16:28 | LinusN | ah, of course |
10:16:51 | preglow | no immediate need, i just think we'll need it sooner or later, and i might want to work on it at some point |
10:17:13 | preglow | archoses will probably just continue to use flat bin files |
10:19:16 | preglow | we already have to work around the static linkage, i believe, in voice ui |
10:19:27 | preglow | having to swap the entire codecs back and forth |
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10:20:38 | LinusN | yes, but we would still have to swap the iram |
10:21:47 | preglow | yup |
10:21:57 | preglow | but that has less of an impact, of course |
10:22:03 | LinusN | of course |
10:22:06 | preglow | because it is, after all, iram, and smaller |
10:22:12 | preglow | king of the commas |
10:22:26 | LinusN | i'm all for an elf loader |
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10:22:41 | preglow | me too, if i can find out exactly how much more complex than coff it is |
10:23:04 | preglow | it is more complex, but i don't know how much of it we'll be forced to use |
10:24:05 | LinusN | i was under the impression that elf would be simpler if it wasn't for the coff compatibility |
10:24:15 | preglow | eh? elf is coff compatible? |
10:24:39 | LinusN | or i might just be talking out of my a** |
10:25:25 | preglow | i'm by no means an expert, but i don't think elf is coff compatible in any way |
10:25:39 | preglow | but that doesn't mean it isn't complex anyway, which i think it is |
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10:28:21 | LinusN | preglow: http://www.sealiesoftware.com/peal/ |
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10:30:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | I like the bit where it says it may "modify random memory locations at runtime." |
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10:30:28 | preglow | nice |
10:31:12 | preglow | perfect, it's even got m68k code |
10:31:33 | LinusN | c++ ... :-( |
10:34:14 | * | preglow uses c++ right now |
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10:35:36 | preglow | oh, it _is_ c++....... |
10:35:40 | preglow | gah |
10:35:54 | preglow | at least i can pillage their code |
10:36:16 | LinusN | yup |
10:36:30 | LinusN | from what i can see, it is a two-step process |
10:36:51 | LinusN | he preprocesses the elf file |
10:37:00 | LinusN | and his loader can only load preprocessed files |
10:37:04 | LinusN | fair enough |
10:38:14 | preglow | i'd say |
10:38:23 | preglow | if it makes the loader complexity less |
10:38:46 | preglow | it's quite important the actual relocation step doesn't take too long |
10:38:58 | preglow | hmm, or well |
10:39:34 | preglow | it's not too important, if we're unlucky and the pcm buffer is low between track change, gapless playback between different codecs isn't that important |
10:39:37 | preglow | if at all |
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10:41:36 | * | amiconn suddenly noticed that his .bss changes introduced a nasty bug for plugins :-( |
10:43:05 | LinusN | ouch |
10:43:43 | preglow | what's that? |
10:44:28 | amiconn | plugin_get_buffer() uses the binary size to calculate the start of free RAM. |
10:44:43 | amiconn | This now clashes with the .bss space... |
10:45:10 | amiconn | We'd need a small header to solve this problem (similar to the archos .ovl header) |
10:45:49 | preglow | or: *drumroll* a proper plugin format! |
10:46:18 | preglow | but yeah, a header will do for now :) |
10:51:19 | preglow | looks like the elf spec will be tonights bedtime read |
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10:54:00 | linuxstb | Morning all. |
10:54:06 | preglow | good morning |
10:55:31 | eli_sherer | i'm working on a color patch for the wps (it's quite easy) |
10:55:46 | eli_sherer | i'm using 'y' instead of 'x' for color images |
10:56:01 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you get a chance to test the USB code on the Nano? I've discovered that the "reboot to diskmode" code doesn't work on the video - but the USB detection works. |
10:56:37 | B4gder | eli_sherer: I would say you should make 'x' support colors |
10:56:38 | preglow | no, i'm sorry |
10:56:39 | preglow | i can try now |
10:56:55 | preglow | if i can find my nano, that is |
10:56:58 | linuxstb | No rush - I was just curious if it worked. |
10:57:09 | preglow | no, i'll just do it before i forget it again |
10:57:57 | markun | I disassembled a lot more of the gigabeat bootcode: http://130.89.160.166/Gigabeat/from.asm.bz2 |
10:58:07 | linuxstb | I didn't realise some of the Archos models had USB charging. |
10:59:42 | eli_sherer | B4gder |
10:59:58 | eli_sherer | B4gder: that would cause me to check the inside of the bitmap |
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11:00:16 | B4gder | ? |
11:00:59 | B4gder | I just find it unlikely that color-LCD people will fiddle much with non-color images |
11:01:31 | B4gder | so why not just deal with all images as color |
11:05:05 | eli_sherer | because the buffer for the monochrome bitmaps is too small to handle big 16bit bmps |
11:05:18 | eli_sherer | 1bit <-> 16bit |
11:05:24 | B4gder | why would you use a too small buffer? |
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11:05:35 | eli_sherer | to save space ofcourse... |
11:05:56 | B4gder | you just said you can't use that small buffer |
11:06:02 | B4gder | then you don't save any space when you add another buffer |
11:06:26 | B4gder | so again, why don't you extend the buffer when you load color images? |
11:06:57 | B4gder | of cours non-color targets would continue using the smaller size |
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11:13:31 | linuxstb | Does anyone have any thoughts about my patch adding bmp2rb to the build system? IIRC, the main problem was dealing with multiple bitmap formats (main unit and remote, mono and native formats) for the same device. I think we will need a more complicated "SOURCES" format to handle all the permutations efficiently. |
11:14:28 | B4gder | I like the idea of having the bitmaps stored in a struct |
11:14:40 | B4gder | so that you can read the depth and size from it |
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11:15:25 | preglow | LinusN: what's supposed to happen on usb plug? |
11:15:34 | linuxstb | But that means that sizes are variables, not #defines - probably not a big problem, but I think it will increase code (and data) size a little. |
11:15:46 | B4gder | hm, right |
11:15:56 | linuxstb | preglow: It should reboot into disk mode. Unless you hold menu, in which case it will just charge. |
11:16:04 | preglow | i just get the usb logo |
11:16:13 | B4gder | linuxstb: exctly what problem would the "advanced" SOURCES solve? (I'm forgetting) |
11:16:26 | preglow | it comes with age |
11:16:43 | preglow | linuxstb: holding menu and inserting, i get a little icon besides the blinking battery |
11:17:10 | amiconn | That's the 'USB power' logo |
11:17:18 | linuxstb | B4gder: My memory's fading, but I think it was a) Dealing with different (mono and native) bitmap formats; and b) Using the same bitmaps with different names - e.g. "rockboxlogo" for Archos, "remote_rockboxlogo" for iriver. |
11:18:33 | linuxstb | When I insert the USB cable on my ipod, I get the USB logo appearing for a split second, then it reboots. |
11:18:34 | B4gder | linuxstb: I could imagine that to start with, the build system builds all bitmap combos but the source files use #ifdef to figure out which one to actually use |
11:18:58 | B4gder | then of course they would use different names |
11:19:09 | linuxstb | That could be a _lot_ of bitmaps. |
11:19:17 | B4gder | hm |
11:19:20 | B4gder | yes, scratch that |
11:19:21 | preglow | linuxstb: most certainly doesn't reboot here |
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11:20:12 | B4gder | still, I believe they should use different names |
11:20:26 | B4gder | and have a header file or something that #ifdefs the symbols right for each target |
11:21:14 | B4gder | I need to get the SDL patch committed so that I can start working with colors! |
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11:22:44 | linuxstb | Bagder: What do you mean by "different names" ? |
11:24:27 | eli_sherer | b$dger: if i use the current buffer and extend it. i would need to store white as 0xFFFFFF and black as 0x00000 for monochrome bitmaps and thats a waste for the other machines |
11:25:25 | B4gder | eli_sherer: non-color machines should not do that |
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11:25:53 | B4gder | linuxstb: I'll try to give it a go during this week and see what I can come up with |
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11:32:20 | linuxstb | preglow: It's odd that it doesn't even reboot at all. Can you tell if it crashes? |
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11:34:02 | * | B4gder has this language-removed-from-configure patch pending... |
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11:35:20 | preglow | linuxstb: no, no crash, it even responds when i remove the cable as well |
11:35:25 | preglow | goes back to file view and all is well |
11:35:33 | B4gder | I guess no one would object me committing this? |
11:36:55 | preglow | what's it do? |
11:37:05 | B4gder | removes the language choice from the configure script |
11:37:20 | B4gder | makes the build always do english |
11:37:23 | preglow | i never did see what that was good for |
11:37:25 | preglow | i'm all for that |
11:37:36 | B4gder | it isn't good, it only complicates things |
11:37:59 | B4gder | and is hardly ever used by anyone |
11:38:28 | linuxstb | So is there any difference between choosing a language at compile-time, and selecting one at runtime? |
11:38:38 | B4gder | yes |
11:38:53 | B4gder | the compile-time builds in the selected language as default |
11:38:56 | B4gder | with no loading needed |
11:39:16 | B4gder | but other than that, no |
11:40:14 | linuxstb | So the only downside is very slightly longer boot time - to load the non-default lang file? |
11:40:36 | B4gder | yes |
11:41:04 | B4gder | and, I believe there is problems related to the built-in using a non-english language |
11:41:12 | B4gder | which we can avoid by this |
11:41:18 | linuxstb | Well, I always use English, so it doesn't affect me. But I can't imagine many people compiling their own builds just for that. |
11:41:44 | preglow | i say get rid of it |
11:41:56 | B4gder | commit coming up |
11:42:08 | B4gder | I need to patch the build system too |
11:42:11 | linuxstb | Talking about the build system - is it a feature or a bug that the automatic builds didn't realise the ipod builds were failing when Tremor became too big for iram? |
11:42:14 | B4gder | I mean on the site |
11:42:26 | B4gder | linuxstb: that's a bug |
11:43:52 | markun | What happens when someone removes all the language files and there is none built in? |
11:44:04 | B4gder | there is always one built-in |
11:44:42 | B4gder | the only difference now is that the built-in will always be english |
11:44:52 | B4gder | (unless you manually edit the root Makefile) |
11:45:37 | linuxstb | B4gder: Is the bug Tremor highlighted easy to fix? |
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11:46:14 | B4gder | linuxstb: what build/URL shows this problem? |
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11:46:33 | linuxstb | let me check... |
11:47:56 | linuxstb | The Tremor commit on 28 December (20:42) broke it, I committed a fix on 3 Jan. It affected all three ipod targets. |
11:48:46 | B4gder | I'll see what I can do... |
11:50:34 | B4gder | added a pattern for /ld returned (\d+) exit status/ |
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11:53:52 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=2006-01-03%2002%3A14%3A28&type=iPod%20Color%20-%20Normal#prob1 |
11:53:59 | B4gder | shows it being highlighted |
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11:56:27 | ashridah | damned phone. java app transfers fine, then turns around and says it failed, but won't tell me why |
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12:00:31 | B4gder | what debian sdl package do you need for the SDL patch build, anyone? |
12:01:09 | preglow | libsdl1.2-dev? |
12:01:18 | ashridah | might need the mixer one too |
12:01:33 | preglow | why'd you need that? we've only got one sound source |
12:02:21 | * | ashridah shrugs |
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12:09:07 | B4gder | hey, it is looking good |
12:09:36 | linuxstb | What's that, the SDL patch? |
12:09:40 | B4gder | yes |
12:09:53 | B4gder | when running the h3x0 sim |
12:10:21 | B4gder | its painfully slow over my x11 tunnel over ssh to work, but it works |
12:10:48 | linuxstb | Which patch are you using? I can see two on the patch tracker... |
12:10:58 | B4gder | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1385137 |
12:11:12 | B4gder | Nathan's |
12:12:20 | B4gder | can't check the sound now though, as this runs on my computer at home and I'm at work ;-) |
12:12:24 | preglow | hmm |
12:12:26 | preglow | perhaps i could try it |
12:12:44 | B4gder | it applied and built cleanly |
12:13:01 | preglow | gah, there i am again, lets distract ourselves with rockbox! |
12:13:40 | LinusN | i think we should commit it and work from there |
12:13:45 | preglow | agreed |
12:13:46 | B4gder | yes |
12:14:07 | LinusN | if the general approach is right in the code |
12:14:13 | linuxstb | So does the patch create a third simulator? |
12:14:21 | B4gder | yes |
12:14:30 | preglow | should do for now, until the day we can remove the other ones |
12:14:34 | B4gder | exactly |
12:14:36 | linuxstb | No harm in committing it then. |
12:14:45 | markun | It nathan's better? |
12:15:28 | markun | poor guys duplicating each other's work.. |
12:15:55 | linuxstb | I seem to recall them saying that they needed to steal the best bits from each other - so neither patch is perfect. But I could be wrong. |
12:21:22 | B4gder | I'll commit |
12:22:42 | B4gder | there you go |
12:24:18 | LinusN | niiiice |
12:28:04 | linuxstb | It doesn't seem to handle the ipod's byte-swapped LCD - but that should be easy to fix. |
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12:33:18 | * | LinusN awaits the massive flood of "i can't build the h300 simulator" from the devkit (l)users |
12:33:30 | B4gder | hahaha |
12:35:11 | * | LinusN plays bejeweled in the h300 sim |
12:35:54 | markun | LinusN: don't do it man, you wont be able to stop.. |
12:36:13 | LinusN | must...resist...bejeweled.... |
12:37:09 | preglow | it's hard |
12:37:17 | preglow | someone make puyo pop for rockbox and i will never code again |
12:37:34 | LinusN | is that a threat? ;-) |
12:37:53 | preglow | hahaha |
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12:41:33 | linuxstb | LinusN: Does audio work OK for you in the SDL sim? I've tried FLAC, AAC and WAV files (in the ipod sim) and they all stop playing after about 2 seconds. |
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12:43:09 | LinusN | linuxstb: works fine for me |
12:43:26 | LinusN | only tried mp3 though |
12:43:43 | LinusN | oops, stopped after 36 secs |
12:44:04 | preglow | so, what about the ifp patch? |
12:44:17 | LinusN | preglow: i'm reluctant |
12:44:27 | preglow | why? |
12:44:34 | linuxstb | I just tried a h300 sim, and audio seems much better - so far about 50 seconds of a FLAC file without problems. |
12:44:37 | LinusN | many changes |
12:44:55 | preglow | i wish he'd drop in on irc |
12:45:00 | LinusN | but on the other hand, we need to put it in cvs to be able to continue developing |
12:45:26 | B4gder | and to keep him happy/encouraged and make it easier for others to join in |
12:45:28 | linuxstb | Adding the ifp to cvs would help him a lot - especially with another ARM port going on at the same time. |
12:46:07 | preglow | there aren't any more changes than any other device port would make, are there? |
12:46:17 | linuxstb | I'll try and find time to test his patch on the ipod later today - I haven't looked at it yet. |
12:46:25 | preglow | i think it should work |
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12:47:10 | preglow | i don't get his set_irq_level function |
12:47:19 | preglow | shouldn't that set priority level or something? |
12:47:25 | preglow | his implementation just masks either fiq or irq processing |
12:48:12 | LinusN | preglow: that depends on the architecture |
12:50:49 | preglow | oh? the name is kind of misleading in this case |
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12:52:32 | LinusN | well, some cpu's have irq levels, some don't |
12:53:16 | preglow | i expect this to have irq levels too |
12:53:35 | preglow | oh well |
12:54:14 | LinusN | are the levels a function of the cpu arch or a separate irq controller? |
12:54:51 | preglow | controller |
12:55:04 | preglow | arm arch itself only has that masking functionaloity |
12:55:16 | preglow | at least this is the case for portalplayer |
12:55:31 | LinusN | then that should be what set_irq_level() should do |
12:55:49 | preglow | the masking? |
12:55:56 | LinusN | yes |
12:56:13 | preglow | any reason for that? makes more sense for me to make it speak to the irq controller |
12:56:34 | LinusN | in fact, that function could just as well be called disable_irq(), because that's how it is used |
12:59:21 | LinusN | the reason is that the function was developed for the archos, where the irq levels were native to the cpu (or at least the interrupt controller was on-die) |
12:59:37 | LinusN | and it translated fine to the coldfire irq levels |
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13:01:02 | preglow | sure, it's on-die here as well, it's just not part of the core |
13:01:04 | preglow | ehh |
13:01:05 | preglow | arm core, that is |
13:01:39 | LinusN | i'd say use what suits your purposes best |
13:02:05 | LinusN | it would of course be nice if the function worked on all arm cores |
13:02:29 | LinusN | it has turned out that we haven't had any use for the levels anyway |
13:02:49 | LinusN | we always use MAX_IRQ_LEVEL or 0 |
13:02:52 | preglow | heh |
13:03:01 | preglow | then we might as well just let it be |
13:03:25 | LinusN | we could even make it into a disable_irq() function |
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13:08:45 | webguest55 | Can the sdl sim be built for windows? |
13:08:52 | linuxstb | preglow: Have you given any thought about the audio driver for the ipod? IPL uses an 80KB ring buffer in IRAM - which is something we obviously can't duplicate, at least not on my ipod. |
13:09:47 | LinusN | webguest55: yes, but you have to install the sdl libraries |
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13:12:31 | webguest55 | Silly me, I meant if it could be cross-compiled |
13:12:56 | webguest55 | That is, if you can compile sdl-w32 on linux |
13:13:17 | LinusN | should work... |
13:14:05 | webguest55 | Will the configure script do it? Can't seem to figure out what I'd need to answer |
13:14:06 | LinusN | the grayscales seem wrong in the h100 sdl sim |
13:14:18 | preglow | linuxstb: ahahahahahahha |
13:14:28 | preglow | 80kb ring buffer _IN IRAM_ |
13:14:36 | * | preglow wipes tears |
13:14:41 | webguest55 | That sounds... extremely retarded |
13:14:52 | LinusN | webguest55: the config script can't do it for you, i'm afraid |
13:15:21 | preglow | linuxstb: but ok, does it use dma? |
13:15:31 | webguest55 | LinusN: Alright. I don't need it anyway, was just curious |
13:17:58 | preglow | linuxstb: for now i don't think we need to think about that at all |
13:18:03 | preglow | linuxstb: we're just using one core anyway |
13:18:21 | preglow | and the iram issue is probably just a way to work around cache discrepansies |
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13:20:25 | linuxstb | No, it doesn't use DMA - the functions have "dma" in their name, but I think that's just because it sort of simulates DMA by using the COP. |
13:21:16 | linuxstb | The problem is that I wasn't able to get the FIQ working on the main CPU. |
13:35:34 | preglow | unable to make it call? |
13:35:40 | preglow | sure the fiq mask isn't set for the cpu? |
13:35:49 | preglow | and then i mean the fiq controller one, not the cpsr one |
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13:37:41 | linuxstb | It was a few weeks ago when I tried, but I think that was the problem - the IPL code only does it for the COP, so I don't know the memory addresses to do the same on the main CPU. |
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13:38:05 | preglow | i think everything you need is in the wiki |
13:38:08 | preglow | the |
13:38:12 | preglow | the PP5020 page |
13:38:21 | preglow | i haven't got time to give it a go now, i'm afraid |
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13:39:15 | LinusN | anyone else than me who thinks the h100 sdl sim grayscales are wrong? |
13:40:30 | linuxstb | preglow: I'll give it another go and see how far I get this time. |
13:41:10 | preglow | did nathan hand just post... nothing? |
13:41:22 | LinusN | 00 isn't white and 11 isn't black |
13:44:21 | B4gder | the color magic is in sdl/lcd-x11.c |
13:44:38 | LinusN | i have fixed it, but i wonder if i should commit it or not |
13:44:50 | linuxstb | Why not? |
13:44:53 | LinusN | maybe the author intended it to look more like the actual lced |
13:45:01 | B4gder | I doubt that |
13:45:35 | B4gder | by looking at the code |
13:45:46 | B4gder | if so, it would've used a table lookup or similar |
13:46:18 | LinusN | true |
13:46:26 | LinusN | i have committed a fix |
13:47:36 | B4gder | I think I've fixed the reds too |
13:48:35 | B4gder | those builds didn't pick a simulator type but got the default |
13:48:43 | B4gder | and the default is now sdl |
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13:58:57 | preglow | think i like the wps token parser |
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14:20:21 | markun | Ideal companion for your Kalashnikov: http://www.audiobooksforfree.com/kalashnikov/Ak-mp3.asp |
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14:22:35 | lokki | anybody here that knows the peakmeter code? |
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14:38:13 | darkless | how does the replaygain preamp work? does it amplify the signal first and then EQ it down to "replaygain level (eg.79 dB)+preamp"? or does it apply replaygain first and then amp the result? |
14:38:55 | godzirra | Someone yesterday told me the name of a great tag editor they use for their iriver.. anyone know who or what it was? |
14:38:58 | godzirra | something like TDT? |
14:39:30 | darkless | obviously, the second approach might kill some low-volume details compared to the first approach |
14:39:39 | markun | darkless: It just adds the preamp value to the replaygain value and scales every same with it |
14:40:05 | darkless | markun: thanks |
14:41:32 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulTools#MP3_Tagging_Organization |
14:41:38 | B4gder | no "TDT" in that list |
14:43:49 | darkless | I looked through the wiki but couldn't find any info on which crossfeed algorithm is used |
14:44:10 | preglow | it's a homebrew one |
14:44:21 | preglow | we're in the process of investigating alternatives |
14:44:36 | darkless | preglow: ah, ok :) |
14:44:41 | markun | darkless: do you have some algorithms we could implement? |
14:45:03 | darkless | markun: no, I was merely curious |
14:45:40 | markun | preglow: do you use crossfeed? |
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14:48:42 | aliask | Does crossfeed/stereo width work on the H300s? |
14:48:48 | darkless | the crossfeed algorithms developed by meier-audio and used in his products are public domain IIRC |
14:49:11 | darkless | and his crossfeed circuits sound rather nice :) |
14:49:36 | markun | darkless: it was lightly based on his crossfeed |
14:49:49 | markun | aliask: stereo width doesn't |
14:50:15 | aliask | Ah ok, I thought I was missing out. How are stereo width and crossfeed different anyway? |
14:52:07 | darkless | stereowidth compresses the soundstage, whereas crossfeed adds a little bit of each channel to the opposite (with added delays, etc) |
14:53:51 | darkless | I have a Behringer DEQ2496 which allows me to compress or expand the soundstage by adjusting the stereowidth |
14:55:01 | darkless | Simon & Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water has a hard-panned drumkit which is highly annoying to me when listening with headphones |
14:56:59 | darkless | I tried to reduce the stereowidth, but I had to turn it all the way down to 0 (mono) in order to not focus on the drumkit. A better solution was to rotate the soundstage by 15% (another feature of the DEQ), thereby putting the drumkit in the center of the soundstage |
14:57:40 | preglow | markun: no, i don't |
14:57:44 | darkless | I tried using the rockbox crossfeed before experimenting with the other options |
14:58:04 | darkless | but the crossfeed wasn't strong enough to compensate |
14:58:05 | preglow | i will when i start listening to music that needs it, though |
14:59:05 | darkless | preglow: like the beatles? they have several hard-panned stereotracks |
14:59:39 | markun | darkless: preglow and I used LSD a lot for testing (the song, not the drug) |
14:59:49 | darkless | heh |
14:59:54 | darkless | good one |
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15:00:28 | aliask | It's all too common in old songs. |
15:00:42 | preglow | darkless: i know |
15:01:00 | preglow | problem is i haven't listened to any really old music for a while |
15:01:23 | darkless | would it be possible to make a scaling crossfeed using the existing algorithm? |
15:01:38 | markun | I also like crossfeed for a lot of newer songs |
15:02:18 | markun | darkless: you want to be able to change the crossfeed parameters? |
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15:05:03 | darkless | markun: I'd like to make the crossfeed "stronger" on certain tracks. A scaling crossfeed would allow me to do that |
15:05:26 | preglow | we'll probably allow you to adjust the crossfade when we make a better one |
15:05:38 | markun | yes |
15:05:44 | darkless | cool |
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15:07:16 | preglow | the current one is very hard to tune |
15:07:19 | preglow | so we just dropped it there |
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15:31:24 | preglow | lostlogic: decided on what to buy? |
15:33:12 | Jungti1234 | hi all |
15:33:17 | Jungti1234 | I came back |
15:45:57 | markun | preglow: he bought a US H340 on ebay |
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15:49:18 | preglow | aight |
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15:52:41 | Jungti1234 | bye |
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16:16:43 | lostlogic | preglow: ebayed a used US H340 |
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16:23:12 | godzirra | how much? |
16:27:27 | lostlogic | 275uSD |
16:27:40 | Febs | That's a good price. |
16:27:59 | lostlogic | yeah −− I figured if I could get it for that, I'd take it, toehrwise I'd get an IPV or X5L for $300. |
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16:36:22 | godzirra | Thats not bad. |
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16:45:10 | * | eli_sherer get frustrated from his secret project %( |
16:50:32 | markun | Then just release them into the wild :) |
16:50:45 | preglow | can't help you with a secret project |
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16:58:27 | godzirra | Ooh... a secret project. |
16:58:36 | godzirra | I need a white lab coat and electric socket hair for my secret project. |
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17:11:10 | muesli__ | eyo |
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17:15:54 | markun | Mmmm: did you work on the metronome plugin? |
17:21:06 | Mmmm | yeah...with Shebbs help.. now it purrrs! :D |
17:21:19 | markun | :) |
17:21:23 | Mmmm | thanks for the array! |
17:21:49 | markun | But you didn't get it to work? |
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17:22:20 | Mmmm | have a look if you like homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.scarratt/metronome4.patch |
17:23:05 | Mmmm | works gorgeously! |
17:24:41 | markun | great |
17:24:44 | markun | I |
17:24:53 | markun | I'll try it when I get home |
17:25:31 | Mmmm | I got the sync button working too and fixed the remote support |
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17:31:26 | preglow | dinnertime |
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18:58:49 | * | preglow explores the murky depths of tiredness |
18:59:19 | markun | just go to sleep man :) |
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19:01:07 | preglow | haha |
19:01:08 | preglow | i just did |
19:01:23 | preglow | in a very awkward position while trying to read |
19:01:28 | preglow | didn't work out, and now my neck hurts |
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19:01:47 | preglow | a few more hours and i'll give in |
19:03:03 | gtkspert | what time is it there? |
19:04:19 | preglow | 19:03 |
19:04:57 | gtkspert | wow, its 2:04 here... |
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19:16:46 | markun | Mmmm: yes, the metronome works very nice |
19:17:50 | Mmmm | Cheers... the only thing is the fading lcd seems to flicker a lot... cpu not being boosted? |
19:18:01 | markun | Yes, I also noticed that |
19:18:04 | preglow | which unit? |
19:18:09 | markun | H120 here |
19:18:10 | Mmmm | h140 |
19:18:22 | preglow | fading lcd flickers? |
19:18:30 | markun | only in the metronome plugin |
19:18:31 | preglow | i've never noticed that |
19:18:33 | preglow | ahh, right |
19:18:49 | preglow | well, the backlight should deal with the boosting issue itself |
19:19:01 | Mmmm | Thats what I thought |
19:19:07 | markun | yes, trange |
19:19:09 | preglow | so, unless the metronome plugin boosts, which i can't imagine why it should... |
19:20:38 | Mmmm | can you disable lcd fade from within a plugin? |
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19:24:23 | webguest34 | Isn't a flickering backlight-fade signs of lack of yielding? |
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19:25:59 | lokki | Mmh: concerning your patch, how do i tap the tempo? |
19:26:24 | Mmmm | press the joystick or pretty much any button on the remote |
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19:27:13 | lokki | yes i did that... but it does not update the tempo, it just begins with a new "1" the tempo stays the same |
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19:28:22 | Mmmm | what do you mean by tap then? I thought that was to sync the beat with whatever you like |
19:28:34 | lokki | ahh... |
19:29:07 | lokki | no i mean tap the joystick for like six or seven times and then adjust the tempo to the tap tempo |
19:29:29 | lokki | like on some delay pedals or similar |
19:29:59 | Mmmm | ahhh... i see... I didnt think of that. :D I'll look into it later! |
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19:30:31 | lokki | it's not so important, just missunderstood you... |
19:31:20 | lokki | i need help with a patch though... it's about the peakmeter, anybody? |
19:33:31 | Mmmm | Got to go and get some dinner...see ya! |
19:34:21 | lokki | bye |
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19:55:30 | mirak | markun: hi |
19:55:39 | mirak | I can't spot why deconding fail |
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19:56:12 | mirak | there must be an endian problem somewhere or something, tough it works on linux ppc also wich is big endian |
19:56:15 | mirak | so I am not sure |
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19:58:58 | markun | mirak: :( |
19:59:36 | mirak | it's not easy to trace what happens |
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20:07:41 | petur | apps/recorder/recording.c has more ifdefs than source code :( |
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20:21:01 | lostlogic | petur: perhaps should be separated into different files witih #ifdefs in SOURCES? |
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20:37:02 | preglow | arghhh |
20:37:04 | preglow | rockbox went mad again |
20:37:10 | preglow | started reading track after track after track |
20:37:14 | preglow | not playing any of them |
20:37:42 | Lear | what kind of files? |
20:38:28 | preglow | mp3 |
20:38:36 | preglow | but i think it happened with oggs yesterday |
20:38:51 | preglow | each time it happen when i selected a new file as rockbox started buffering the new dir |
20:38:55 | preglow | i _THINK_ |
20:39:00 | preglow | there's a race condition going on there |
20:39:04 | preglow | i'm convinced of it |
20:39:28 | Lear | ah, I seldom do things like that, which would explain why I've never had problems like that. |
20:39:33 | t0mas | hm... |
20:39:39 | t0mas | preglow? steps to reproduce? |
20:39:46 | t0mas | 1 select a dir and make it start playing |
20:39:55 | t0mas | 2 immidiately select a new file? |
20:40:02 | preglow | no |
20:40:06 | preglow | i've just played one dir |
20:40:16 | preglow | and so, at the very end of the last track, rockbox starts buffering the next dir |
20:40:20 | preglow | while this happens, i select something else |
20:40:22 | preglow | i think that's the key |
20:40:55 | t0mas | ah, you have skip to next dir enabled? |
20:41:15 | preglow | sure |
20:41:35 | t0mas | that might explain why I've never seen it |
20:41:53 | preglow | that shouldn't matter, it should happen whener rockbox is loading something new |
20:41:55 | t0mas | (it's called auto change directory now right?) |
20:41:57 | preglow | whenever |
20:42:01 | preglow | god knows what it's called |
20:42:27 | t0mas | I'll enable it |
20:42:42 | t0mas | see if it happens here too... and if I can find out when exactly |
20:42:51 | t0mas | maybe you can find the bug then :) |
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20:50:44 | Moos | this auto change dir feature wasn't finished yet, since len0x seems have deserted Rockbox |
20:50:53 | preglow | yes, fine |
20:51:23 | preglow | well, he hasn't been gone that long |
20:51:34 | preglow | i hope timid hasn't deserted rockbox :/ |
20:52:12 | Moos | I have receive one mail from him, and he is fine, just in exams session... and no internet connexion |
20:52:32 | Moos | but he will have soon, and he will be back |
20:53:04 | Moos | his multi screen support wasn't finished too :) |
20:53:42 | preglow | okies |
20:53:45 | preglow | yeah, i know |
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21:13:44 | petur | preglow: I recently saw rb do the same thing (constantly skipping to next song) - no hints to what I did to trigger it... |
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21:16:09 | preglow | good, at least it's not only my player acting the fool |
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21:27:21 | petur | unable to trigger it again, will keep an eye on it... |
21:28:54 | petur | which of the RB supported players has the smallest screen (character-count-wise)? |
21:29:03 | preglow | depends on the font... |
21:29:42 | petur | nevermind, I'll do a special case for the iRivers... |
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21:39:57 | jlo | hello |
21:40:26 | preglow | now, there you are |
21:40:45 | jlo | hi preglow, nice to hear you |
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21:41:47 | jlo | preglow, something new about crossfeed ? |
21:41:58 | preglow | no, nothing |
21:42:04 | preglow | you had me do a blind test, then vanished :> |
21:42:37 | jlo | did you download the samples I prepared and test it ? |
21:43:11 | preglow | yes, i did, but i can no longer remember my results... |
21:43:25 | petur | lol |
21:43:43 | preglow | not so weird, since it's over a month ago |
21:44:30 | jlo | I did 4 types of crossfeed, but I |
21:44:53 | jlo | I'd like to have you results ;) |
21:45:50 | jlo | but if you did it with ABC/HR maybe you saved the results ? |
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21:46:29 | mlind | Hi guys! Anybody compiling on OS X? I'm having trouble setting up things... |
21:48:18 | linuxstb | Yes, but it was a while ago when I set everything up. I think I installed fink. and then installed the required packages (e.g. gettext) using fink. |
21:48:47 | jlo | preglow, do you want me to do other files to test or resend lucy in the sky (its' still available) |
21:49:18 | preglow | resend will do nicely |
21:49:25 | preglow | and i'll test tomorrow |
21:49:39 | preglow | i'm dead tired now and need to sleep desperately, heh |
21:50:00 | mlind | I was told I didn't need anything more than gcc, gdb & binutils. What's fink? |
21:50:30 | linuxstb | preglow: You posted your crossfeed findings to IRC on 2005-12-14 at about 16:35 GMT |
21:51:03 | Mmmm | Lokki, Markun: here's a new metronome patch with tap function...HOOORAAAHH, just for you lokki :) Great idea, it was in the original code but I didn't know what it did! (I've kept my sync button too because I think that is also handy) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.scarratt/metronome5.patch |
21:51:09 | linuxstb | You liked 3.wav best, and found 2.wav to be the worse. |
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21:52:26 | jlo | thanks linuxstb, files are at http://www.ohl.to/iriver/tests/lsd/, I'll check which is which !!! |
21:52:26 | markun | mlind: do you get an error? |
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21:54:10 | linuxstb | mlind: http://fink.sourceforge.net - it's a system for installing packages of GNU and other open source software on Mac OS X. |
21:54:43 | jlo | preglow and linuxstb : winamp=1 rockbox=2 reaktor=3 |
21:55:00 | linuxstb | mlind: But as markun says, what specific problem are you having? |
21:55:31 | mlind | markun: yes. When I try to setup binutils it says "C compilier cannot create executables" See: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2337.msg15979#msg15979 |
21:56:35 | linuxstb | Seems you don't have gcc installed properly. |
21:57:30 | linuxstb | Have you installed Xcode? |
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21:59:57 | mlind | No Xcode. Doing everything in the order described here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
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22:00:38 | linuxstb | Mac OS X doesn't have gcc installed by default - you need to install Xcode, which is Apple's development environment. |
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22:01:18 | linuxstb | Which version of Mac OS X do you have? |
22:01:19 | preglow | jlo: so i liked you algo best, then |
22:02:09 | preglow | didn't you post a schematic for it somewhere? |
22:02:10 | mlind | linuxstb: Ok. Thanks. I kind of thought Xcode just was an alternative to doing it the wiki way. |
22:02:16 | markun | preglow: well, start programming :) |
22:02:32 | mlind | 10.3.9 |
22:03:17 | Mmmm | markun: have you tried new metronome patch? |
22:03:38 | markun | no |
22:04:03 | jlo | you know, I think we could maybe improve some values we need your programming skills ;) |
22:05:11 | preglow | i want this crossfeed to be fully parameterisable |
22:05:20 | preglow | with decent defaults, of course |
22:05:49 | Mmmm | markun: tis quite strange, now the lcd fade seems to be disabled! |
22:09:22 | jlo | to be in the parameters : delay (10 to 18 samples), Fc between 400Hz and 3KHz, Levels : direct and opposite in high and low (4 parameters) |
22:10:36 | preglow | Fc? as in both filters use the same cutoff freq? |
22:11:13 | jlo | yes, I used same frequency for low and high pass |
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22:12:17 | preglow | hooray! |
22:12:27 | preglow | first order filters? |
22:12:50 | jlo | first order but shelving ! |
22:13:05 | preglow | hmm |
22:13:14 | preglow | then same cutoff is irrelevant |
22:13:45 | preglow | stop band attenuation=? |
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22:15:40 | jlo | stopband attenuation was about 4dB in lows, and 12 dB in highs (I have to exactly check), why do you mean same Fc is irrelevant ? |
22:15:58 | preglow | because i can't calculate a complementary filter with a simple operation |
22:16:37 | preglow | like i could if the filters were low/highpass |
22:16:38 | jlo | you could do two filters independantly if it's easier |
22:16:48 | preglow | no, not easier, it's just an optimise thing |
22:16:55 | preglow | but shelving |
22:17:03 | preglow | but ok, the code will be a bit slower than the current one, then |
22:17:11 | preglow | but i guess it's acceptable for the quality |
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22:18:18 | jlo | for shelving : can't you do a filter and add an allpass attenuated by the stopband value ? |
22:18:39 | preglow | why allpass? |
22:18:47 | preglow | that would give phase problems |
22:18:56 | jlo | well not the allpass, just the original signal |
22:18:56 | preglow | just adding the straight input should do, i think |
22:18:59 | preglow | yeah |
22:19:12 | jlo | I think so |
22:19:17 | preglow | we'll see |
22:19:22 | preglow | i wont have time for a while anyway |
22:21:12 | jlo | when you have time, .... but in between, I'm ready to encode and try with other musics |
22:21:58 | preglow | that would be nice |
22:22:11 | preglow | but yeah, where is the block diag of your algo? |
22:23:01 | jlo | I'll do a pdf in you want and post it on my ftp |
22:23:57 | jlo | and if other want to try, I can give the Reaktor file also |
22:25:19 | preglow | don't have reaktor here |
22:25:20 | preglow | but anyway |
22:25:21 | preglow | no time now |
22:25:28 | preglow | and now i'm damn near to falling asleep |
22:25:31 | preglow | so time for bed |
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22:25:49 | preglow | night, all |
22:25:58 | jlo | night preglow |
22:35:45 | jlo | goodnight everybody |
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22:58:53 | [San] | whats xobox? |
22:58:59 | [San] | a sim like rockboy? |
22:59:01 | Paprica | אממ |
22:59:05 | Paprica | xonix |
22:59:08 | Paprica | mmm |
22:59:11 | Paprica | =\ |
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22:59:16 | [San] | link is down |
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23:00:14 | Paprica | eli dont upload the files |
23:00:15 | Paprica | ithink |
23:03:15 | [San] | is it finished? |
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23:03:27 | Paprica | no |
23:03:40 | [San] | but, like released? |
23:03:52 | Paprica | mm dont know |
23:03:54 | Paprica | ask eli |
23:03:59 | [San] | ok |
23:04:07 | Paprica | good night |
23:04:17 | [San] | night |
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23:31:43 | sa0 | hi all |
23:31:58 | sa0 | ok for IriverPort here ? |
23:32:44 | linuxstb | Yes |
23:32:49 | sa0 | k thx |
23:33:24 | sa0 | was wondering if it will be possible one day to add the USB OTG Host function to ihp series ? |
23:34:23 | linuxstb | Yes, but it's a big job, and I don't think anyone has started yet. |
23:34:40 | sa0 | whaouh |
23:34:55 | sa0 | i wasn't sure, amazing |
23:34:58 | linuxstb | Or are you asking about adding USBOTG to the h1x0 ? |
23:35:08 | linuxstb | Which isn't possible. |
23:35:09 | sa0 | just i've to hope for it so |
23:35:36 | sa0 | yes that's what i was asking ... ;o( |
23:35:41 | sa0 | so why not ? |
23:36:08 | linuxstb | Because the h1x0 lacks the hardware to do it. |
23:36:16 | linuxstb | The h3x0 has a special USBOTG chip. |
23:37:09 | sa0 | oh ok clear |
23:37:14 | sa0 | thx linuxstb |
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