| 00:07:03 | kernelsensei | it is possible to change the background color in a wps ? |
| 00:10:47 | linuxstb | Not unless you patch Rockbox. |
| 00:12:18 | kernelsensei | ah |
| 00:13:15 | * | petur points to H300 optimized build on MR |
| 00:14:39 | lostlogic | LinusN: (since you may have looked at it before this) there is a new AB repeat patch up on SF which is seemless, and wastes far fewer processor cycles when inactive. |
| 00:18:51 | petur | we need more H1xx/H3xx devs with CVS commit access :/ hope amiconn has his H300 soon... |
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| 00:20:55 | petur | well I'm off... later! |
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| 00:22:50 | lostlogic | hard to grant CVS access (I'd think) when a stray commit to the pcf50606 (or equiv) code could literally brick people's players. |
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| 00:30:36 | preglow | need to be careful, at least |
| 00:32:28 | lostlogic | yes. I lack caution. Submitting patches to a core group makes a lot of sense... I mean it sure works well for the linux kernel. |
| 00:35:24 | preglow | haha |
| 00:35:29 | preglow | not all stuff needs caution |
| 00:36:11 | preglow | i'm pretty comfortable on that side of things |
| 00:37:43 | lostlogic | preglow: trunuf −− would it be possible to give several more people commit permissions only in the apps module or the plugins or the codecs or something? |
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| 00:45:32 | linuxstb | lostlogic: I don't think that's possible with CVS. |
| 00:46:48 | preglow | and i don't think that's an issue anyway |
| 00:47:02 | linuxstb | I agree |
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| 00:47:15 | preglow | if we don't trust you not to tamper with stuff you have no idea about, we don't give you commit access |
| 00:48:13 | preglow | that's one of the criteria i'd have anyway |
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| 00:50:27 | Mmmm | Is LinusN about? |
| 00:51:15 | ashridah | it's like about 1-2am where he is |
| 00:51:33 | Mmmm | been trying to catch him all evening.... |
| 00:51:45 | preglow | what's up? |
| 00:52:20 | Mmmm | he was asking me about the metronome plugin and I made a patch for him to look at. |
| 00:53:42 | Mmmm | He must be taking a well earned evening off! :) |
| 00:54:34 | preglow | hehe |
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| 01:03:19 | BHSPitMonkey | Mmmm: is it his plugin? |
| 01:04:13 | Mmmm | it's mine, shebbs,his and possibly amiconns too! |
| 01:05:00 | Mmmm | bit of a mongrel! :) |
| 01:06:18 | LinusN | Mmmm: i think you should use a better name for the acceleration variable |
| 01:07:19 | amiconn | BHSPitMonkey: $Id: metronome.c,v 1.21 2006/01/12 00:35:49 dave Exp $ |
| 01:07:22 | amiconn | Copyright (C) 2004 Matthias Wientapper |
| 01:07:33 | LinusN | wasn't the pcm_stop_playback() fix supposed to be in that patch as well? |
| 01:07:42 | Mmmm | ooh.. hello there. You think it's a good idea though? what name do you suggest? |
| 01:07:52 | amiconn | Of course it was extended since then |
| 01:08:00 | BHSPitMonkey | amiconn: i'm not a rockbox user, so i wouldn't know :P |
| 01:08:13 | BHSPitMonkey | I am a metronome user, however XD |
| 01:08:27 | LinusN | Mmmm: "bpm_acceleration" or something? |
| 01:08:42 | Mmmm | Linus:the fix was in but i took it out as it was being wierd seemed to work then on a restart of the player didnt work! :S |
| 01:08:50 | BHSPitMonkey | accelerando |
| 01:09:05 | BHSPitMonkey | :D |
| 01:09:16 | LinusN | Mmmm: ok |
| 01:09:37 | LinusN | i really don't like the coding style in that file... |
| 01:09:40 | BHSPitMonkey | I'd love to be able to compose on the ipod |
| 01:09:46 | BHSPitMonkey | sort of like on some phones |
| 01:09:46 | LinusN | not your fault, though |
| 01:09:51 | Mmmm | :) |
| 01:10:23 | Paprica | mmm the "make" files, make with some software> |
| 01:10:24 | Paprica | ? |
| 01:10:34 | BHSPitMonkey | Paprica: ? |
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| 01:10:41 | Paprica | yes |
| 01:10:45 | BHSPitMonkey | you need to have make installed to use Makefiles... |
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| 01:11:15 | BHSPitMonkey | which is a standard tool |
| 01:11:36 | Mmmm | Linus: what do you reckon it is with the pcm_play_stop ? |
| 01:11:59 | Paprica | i want to know how can i make then |
| 01:12:00 | Paprica | m |
| 01:12:10 | LinusN | Mmmm: what was the problem? |
| 01:12:24 | Paprica | i want that some files go to some folder in rockbox compile |
| 01:12:39 | Paprica | how can i do that |
| 01:12:51 | LinusN | edit the makefile |
| 01:13:12 | Mmmm | LinusN: it doesnt work! when you start the plugin with sound playing it continues playing and then goes mad when you playtock |
| 01:13:19 | Paprica | i try to do it |
| 01:13:27 | LinusN | Mmmm: ah yes |
| 01:13:34 | Paprica | but it doesnt work |
| 01:14:10 | Mmmm | Linus: I tried everything I could think of (which doesn't amout to much really :) ) but couldn't fix it! |
| 01:14:34 | LinusN | Mmmm: use rb->audio_stop(); |
| 01:15:06 | Mmmm | I kept thinking i had fixed it but then when I rebooted the next day the problem was back! wierd eh? I'll give audio_stop() a go... |
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| 01:21:51 | Mmmm | Linus: that seems to have done the trick! good one... will that work for the non-sofware codec players too? |
| 01:22:35 | LinusN | no, then you should use rb->mp3_play_stop() |
| 01:22:57 | LinusN | some day, we will unify those api's... |
| 01:23:33 | Mmmm | ok then...shall I put the resulting patch on the tracker or just leave it with you? |
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| 01:24:02 | preglow | LinusN: surely, some insane man would have to appear for that task to be done |
| 01:24:27 | * | LinusN looks at amiconn |
| 01:24:55 | * | preglow starts waiting for amiconn to foam at the mouth |
| 01:27:04 | Mmmm | Linus by acceleration variable do you mean what I have called i? |
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| 01:29:35 | NightCat | Hi All! |
| 01:29:52 | LinusN | Mmmm: yes |
| 01:30:08 | NightCat | Some help? |
| 01:30:17 | NightCat | I read this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins for now... |
| 01:30:21 | LinusN | Mmmm: by convention, "i" is usually a loop variable, typically an index |
| 01:30:26 | NightCat | What next? |
| 01:30:27 | preglow | but ok, i'm out, later all |
| 01:30:40 | LinusN | cu preglow |
| 01:30:57 | NightCat | bey |
| 01:32:00 | Mmmm | how about bpm_step_counter ? after all that's what it really is! |
| 01:33:57 | LinusN | sure |
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| 01:38:12 | NightCat | Stupid question, but: why I don't see helloworld plugin in rocks folder (on built fw)? |
| 01:38:57 | NightCat | (Sorry I mean "why don't I see"...) |
| 01:39:07 | NightCat | Hey, anybody :) |
| 01:39:27 | Mmmm | OK, I've updated the patch and uploaded it to the same address as the last, this time the fix is in as well as the bpm acceleration. Shall I just leave it with you then Linus? :) |
| 01:39:54 | LinusN | NightCat: edit apps/plugins/SOURCES |
| 01:40:32 | NightCat | Thx :) |
| 01:41:02 | LinusN | Mmmm: fine with me |
| 01:43:22 | Mmmm | Ok then...thanks for all your help Linus! |
| 01:43:28 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 01:45:25 | Mmmm | Oh, just one question... Since you told me what timer_register does all those strange numbers suddenly made sense, only I dont quite understand one thing |
| 01:45:27 | Mmmm | for(i = 0;i < (int)sizeof(sound)/2;i++) { |
| 01:46:05 | Mmmm | why the /2 ? surely this would mean that only half the array is loaded into sndbuf ? :s |
| 01:46:33 | Mmmm | so you end up with an array the same size as the original, not double the original! |
| 01:47:06 | Mmmm | obviously I'm wrong as if I remove the /2 it doesn't work but I can't see why! |
| 01:47:50 | LinusN | it should really be sizeof(sound)/sizeof(short), i.e the number of samples in the array |
| 01:48:33 | LinusN | sizeof(short) == 2 |
| 01:48:46 | Mmmm | as there are 2 channels! |
| 01:49:02 | LinusN | no, as there are 2 bytes in a short |
| 01:50:14 | Mmmm | heh.. but there are 2 samples because of the two channels |
| 01:50:33 | LinusN | not in sound[], which is mono |
| 01:51:10 | LinusN | the loop converts the mono sound[] sample to stereo and puts it in sndbuf[] |
| 01:51:20 | Mmmm | but in sndbuf after you've doubled up all the entries |
| 01:51:29 | LinusN | yup |
| 01:52:53 | Mmmm | but say sizeof(sound)==4, then i only goes between 0 and 1 right? |
| 01:53:14 | Mmmm | and so only the first two entries are inserted? |
| 01:54:09 | LinusN | let's say that sound contains 2 samples |
| 01:54:26 | LinusN | then sizeof(sound) ==4 |
| 01:54:36 | LinusN | since each sample takes 2 bytes |
| 01:55:02 | Mmmm | aaaaaaaahhhhhh..... :D thanks so much Linus... hee hee... now I can sleep soundly! |
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| 01:57:47 | Rob2222 | Mmmm: the bpm acceleration. <= means this, that you can play MP3s a little faster? |
| 01:58:17 | LinusN | not at all, just that the bpm settint in the metronome is easier to change |
| 01:58:55 | Rob2222 | metronome? in RB? |
| 01:59:06 | LinusN | yes |
| 01:59:07 | Mmmm | look in plugins! |
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| 01:59:16 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 01:59:54 | Mmmm | well....its snooze time for me... night night...... |
| 01:59:56 | Rob2222 | If RB will get a playing speed setting for Mp3 anywhen? |
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| 02:00:55 | LinusN | Rob2222: we can set the pitch |
| 02:01:45 | Rob2222 | But not on the fly in the player, or? At least I didnt found it, yet |
| 02:02:26 | LinusN | Rob2222: which player do you have? |
| 02:02:35 | Rob2222 | H340@60 |
| 02:03:01 | LinusN | in the wps, hold Play and use up/down to change the pitch |
| 02:03:19 | Rob2222 | WTF |
| 02:03:21 | Rob2222 | nice! |
| 02:03:24 | Rob2222 | muahaha |
| 02:03:33 | Rob2222 | Linus, i love you. :) |
| 02:03:39 | LinusN | rockbox is full of surprises :-) |
| 02:03:44 | Rob2222 | uhm, please dont get that wrong ;) |
| 02:03:50 | LinusN | hehe |
| 02:04:15 | Rob2222 | All day i check the daily build for H300 changes ;) |
| 02:04:35 | NightCat | Ha, I didn't know about this :) |
| 02:04:39 | Rob2222 | As i was underway today and it was cold. |
| 02:04:40 | aliask | Ahaha, pitch changing is hillarious. |
| 02:04:44 | adamd | haha, cool, me neither |
| 02:04:47 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 02:05:03 | Rob2222 | We should make a WIKI page for Iriver features |
| 02:05:13 | adamd | please do! |
| 02:05:18 | NightCat | Not just iRiver... |
| 02:05:24 | NightCat | ;) |
| 02:06:01 | LinusN | that feature is there for all rockbox targets except archos studio |
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| 02:06:26 | adamd | a few AIR tunes sound much better sped up |
| 02:06:28 | NightCat | Some other hided futures? |
| 02:06:36 | adamd | yeah, do tell more! :P |
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| 02:06:57 | aliask | I just found out about the ID3 tag reading feature. |
| 02:07:00 | LinusN | i believe that feature is in the manual |
| 02:07:21 | Rob2222 | Linus: As i was out today and it was could, i didnt wanted to get my player out of my pocket. Then I thought, "hmm, Voice Directorys" would be nice now. But I switched it off, cause it stressed normaly. Wouldn that be a nice option for "QUICKMENU UP". A Voice Togge. Or QUICKMENU UP for a function that can be selected in the preferences ... |
| 02:07:21 | NightCat | You're right Linus, but... |
| 02:07:45 | Rob2222 | ID3 Tag reading feature? |
| 02:07:58 | webguest63 | rob2222: why re-invent the wheel, the wiki already exists just add the info if it isn't there |
| 02:08:11 | aliask | Play a song, and in the WPS hold the select key (NAVI on H300) and select ID3 Tags |
| 02:08:47 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
| 02:09:06 | Rob2222 | does the wiki have a page with key combos for the target? |
| 02:09:13 | Rob2222 | *search* |
| 02:09:19 | webguest63 | yep its there somewhere |
| 02:09:27 | adamd | ooh where |
| 02:09:49 | * | webguest63 fetches high chair and big spoon :-) |
| 02:09:53 | adamd | hahaha pitch change offers endless supplies of fun for boredom-remedying |
| 02:09:58 | adamd | lmao, yeah |
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| 02:12:17 | NightCat | What about wiki page with info about Ñ functions (I mean RB function that I can use in plugin writing)? |
| 02:12:46 | adamd | g2g... night night |
| 02:12:55 | NightCat | Bey |
| 02:12:57 | LinusN | NightCat: sure. go ahead |
| 02:13:16 | NightCat | I meant where is it? |
| 02:13:29 | LinusN | there is no such page (yet) |
| 02:13:30 | NightCat | I couldn't find it... |
| 02:13:38 | NightCat | Oh... |
| 02:13:43 | NightCat | Funny |
| 02:14:02 | NightCat | And what about short C info? |
| 02:14:06 | Rob2222 | has the H300 record button any secret functionality |
| 02:14:07 | Rob2222 | ? |
| 02:14:12 | LinusN | NightCat: google |
| 02:14:13 | NightCat | No |
| 02:14:22 | NightCat | Linus: Ok :) |
| 02:18:11 | NightCat | Hm, then if I want to find a function that, for ex. set the color of the creen pixel I'll have to watch on RB sources and if I want to find a function that for ex. stops for moment (like sleep() or delay() functions in other language) then Ill have to go to google, Am I right? |
| 02:23:50 | | Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") |
| 02:24:49 | LinusN | the sleep() and delay() functions are not part of the C language |
| 02:25:17 | LinusN | sleep() is a rockbox function |
| 02:25:24 | LinusN | rb->sleep() in a plugin |
| 02:25:32 | NightCat | Heh :) |
| 02:26:38 | NightCat | Thx again :) |
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| 02:29:15 | LinusN | NightCat: see apps/plugin.h for the functions currently exported to the plugins |
| 02:30:25 | NightCat | I had already find it :) What about function putsxy()? |
| 02:31:13 | NightCat | Oh putsxy = lcd_putsxy :) |
| 02:31:20 | NightCat | I see. :) |
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| 02:55:59 | NightCat | Linus? |
| 02:56:03 | NightCat | Question? |
| 02:56:46 | NightCat | Could I get sound level (left and right) from plugin? |
| 02:56:55 | NightCat | (I mean in plugin) |
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| 03:00:42 | NightCat | Maybe mas_codec_readreg? |
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| 03:03:04 | NightCat | mas_codec_readreg(0xC) left and mas_codec_readreg(0xD) right |
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| 03:14:50 | Membrillo | NightCat: why would you want that? |
| 03:15:14 | Membrillo | what plugin are you working on? |
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| 03:18:32 | NightCat | Membrillo: I just trying... I try Ñ first day and RB too :) |
| 03:18:41 | NightCat | Membrillo |
| 03:19:17 | NightCat | I want try plugin that will blinks on high peaks :) |
| 03:19:21 | Membrillo | sorry? i dont quite understand you |
| 03:19:25 | Membrillo | oh ok, nice |
| 03:20:17 | NightCat | I want a botton (I don't know wich) in WPS mode that change NEXT song (not now playin)... |
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| 03:23:07 | Membrillo | oh i get you |
| 03:23:15 | Membrillo | thats a nice idea |
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| 03:24:52 | NightCat | Yes :) Play + Up/Down is a pich change and Play + Left/Right can be this future :) |
| 03:25:51 | NightCat | Hm, what about sound level? SOMEBODY!!! |
| 03:30:02 | Membrillo | does pitch change work on h300? |
| 03:30:49 | NightCat | Yes. |
| 03:31:11 | Membrillo | haha so it does |
| 03:31:24 | Membrillo | if you go past around 150% the iriver struggles thoguh |
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| 03:50:02 | NightCat | Is someone here??? |
| 03:50:14 | NightCat | I need help with peakmeter file... |
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| 03:56:14 | | Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-70-18-144-126.norf.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:56:17 | ModernExecutive | just have one quick question: has anyone succeeded in putting the rockbox bootloader on a US firmware yet? |
| 03:56:34 | LinusN | nobody has tried |
| 03:57:13 | ModernExecutive | tried patching a us firmware or putting a patched us firmware on an h300? |
| 03:57:34 | LinusN | again: nobody has tried |
| 03:57:56 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 03:58:16 | ModernExecutive | you mean nobody has tried either, yes? |
| 03:58:26 | LinusN | exactly |
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| 03:59:08 | ModernExecutive | could i be a guinea pig? |
| 03:59:13 | NightCat | Linus do you know something about sound level? |
| 03:59:15 | LinusN | it should work, but so far nobody has dared to try it in fear of losing drm |
| 03:59:36 | LinusN | NightCat: no peak info for plugins on the iriver, afaik |
| 03:59:59 | ModernExecutive | i would be happy to dare |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:12 | LinusN | ModernExecutive: ok |
| 04:01:02 | ModernExecutive | what would you like me to do? |
| 04:02:09 | LinusN | http://linus.haxx.se/ustest.zip |
| 04:02:35 | LinusN | copy the H300.hex to your player and do a firmware upgrade |
| 04:02:50 | LinusN | beware! nobody has done this before |
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| 04:03:43 | NightCat | LinusN: But there could be sound level in plugins on H300 couldn't it? |
| 04:03:43 | Kyl3 | did he do it yet? |
| 04:03:44 | Kyl3 | lol |
| 04:04:10 | ModernExecutive | should i copy a bleeding edge build over as well? |
| 04:04:12 | LinusN | NightCat: there *could*, yes, but it isn't implemented yet, afaik |
| 04:04:14 | NightCat | LinusN: Because there is a peakmeter on H300... |
| 04:05:20 | NightCat | Hm... |
| 04:05:30 | LinusN | the peak info is there, just not in the plugin api |
| 04:05:33 | NightCat | Very Sadly... |
| 04:05:47 | LinusN | NightCat: you can add it of course |
| 04:05:54 | NightCat | Then I'll try :) |
| 04:06:17 | NightCat | Where this info could be? |
| 04:06:29 | ModernExecutive | sorry. this is a stupid question. do i just need to download the latest build and extract them on to the player and then flash to the patched firmware, or is there something more that needs to be on the player's hard drive (besides the .rockbox folder and the rockbox.iriver file)? |
| 04:07:07 | Kyl3 | No just the build should work |
| 04:07:09 | LinusN | you need to flash the H300.hex i gave you, and then install the latest rockbox build |
| 04:07:12 | NightCat | You need .rockbox folder and the rockbox.iriver file and HEX file |
| 04:08:22 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 04:08:25 | ModernExecutive | here goes nothing |
| 04:08:35 | * | Kyl3 holds breath |
| 04:08:49 | ModernExecutive | .. you're not the only one ;) |
| 04:09:07 | Kyl3 | if it works, use needleboys build on MR |
| 04:09:37 | Kyl3 | its got all the stuff you need for the h300 |
| 04:10:03 | ModernExecutive | fw upgraded. |
| 04:10:03 | ModernExecutive | how do I boot to the iriver FW now? |
| 04:10:13 | Kyl3 | Hold REC and ON |
| 04:10:20 | Kyl3 | Until you see the boot screen |
| 04:10:27 | ModernExecutive | press both at the same time or first rec and then on? |
| 04:10:31 | Kyl3 | same time |
| 04:10:53 | ModernExecutive | ... can't found DRM key. |
| 04:11:08 | LinusN | sh*t |
| 04:11:13 | Kyl3 | damn! |
| 04:11:21 | Kyl3 | well happy rockboxing |
| 04:11:30 | ModernExecutive | actually, i'm RMAing |
| 04:11:46 | Kyl3 | Oh. |
| 04:11:56 | ModernExecutive | got a replacement on its way to me, so i figured "what the hell?" :) |
| 04:12:21 | ModernExecutive | looks like i'll get myself 1.29k in the mean time. |
| 04:12:23 | LinusN | ok, so the firmware probably has a checksum to protect against tampering |
| 04:13:47 | Kyl3 | is there a way to patch the firmware and somehow change the checksum back to what it was before you patched it? |
| 04:17:00 | LinusN | i don't know |
| 04:18:16 | ModernExecutive | thanks anyway, guys |
| 04:18:44 | Kyl3 | well atleast now you can see what you've been missing |
| 04:18:53 | LinusN | ModernExecutive: thank you for trying |
| 04:20:12 | ModernExecutive | crap |
| 04:20:17 | ModernExecutive | i think my player's bricked. |
| 04:20:29 | ModernExecutive | oh... no |
| 04:20:37 | ModernExecutive | nope... the backlight is just turned off |
| 04:21:14 | Kyl3 | Scared me the first time too |
| 04:21:31 | LinusN | time to sleep |
| 04:21:33 | LinusN | nite all |
| 04:21:37 | | Part LinusN |
| 04:21:38 | ModernExecutive | thanks linus |
| 04:21:43 | Membrillo | those koreans are clever buggers |
| 04:21:50 | ModernExecutive | stupid question #2: how do i get the backlight back on? |
| 04:22:48 | Membrillo | press a button |
| 04:23:09 | Kyl3 | and go to |
| 04:23:21 | Kyl3 | ab general settings display |
| 04:23:28 | Kyl3 | backlight always on |
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| 04:25:46 | Kyl3 | right? |
| 04:26:52 | | Quit NightCat (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 04:27:00 | Membrillo | thats a bit hard if you cant see anything |
| 04:27:12 | ModernExecutive | when i hit the on button, it boots to the standard iriver firmware |
| 04:27:21 | Kyl3 | hold on |
| 04:27:37 | Kyl3 | if you want ill get you 1.29k patched |
| 04:28:04 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 04:28:09 | Kyl3 | h/o |
| 04:28:31 | ModernExecutive | crap |
| 04:28:36 | ModernExecutive | my navi button doesn't work |
| 04:29:02 | Kyl3 | reset plug in USB |
| 04:29:47 | ModernExecutive | crap |
| 04:29:48 | ModernExecutive | brb |
| 04:29:50 | Kyl3 | kk |
| 04:31:19 | Membrillo | so with recording. Adjusting gain when its analog won't affect quality, adjusting gain digitally will |
| 04:38:11 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 04:38:16 | ModernExecutive | still there kyl? |
| 04:38:22 | Kyl3 | yes |
| 04:38:38 | ModernExecutive | shoot me a patched fw |
| 04:38:59 | Kyl3 | whats your email address I'm gonna send you a patched formware and the latest optimized build |
| 04:40:12 | Kyl3 | Ok I will |
| 04:40:20 | Kyl3 | I cant PM im not registered |
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| 04:41:03 | Kyl3 | while its off? |
| 04:41:14 | ModernExecutive | np |
| 04:41:18 | Rob2222 | hey you two |
| 04:41:19 | ModernExecutive | it's on |
| 04:41:21 | Rob2222 | :) |
| 04:41:23 | ModernExecutive | and booting to the iriver fw |
| 04:41:30 | Rob2222 | what means "cant found drm key"? |
| 04:41:31 | Kyl3 | try while its off |
| 04:41:41 | Rob2222 | you cant see something? |
| 04:41:44 | Kyl3 | that means drm is broken |
| 04:41:47 | Rob2222 | try a flashlight |
| 04:42:18 | Rob2222 | read that anywhere |
| 04:42:24 | ModernExecutive | connecting usb while off doesn't seem to do anything |
| 04:42:27 | Rob2222 | but doesnt kwof if it helps |
| 04:42:35 | ModernExecutive | no lcd indication |
| 04:42:49 | Rob2222 | ok, whats your status? |
| 04:42:53 | Rob2222 | RB bootloader? |
| 04:43:03 | ModernExecutive | ... i think flashing a patched fw over a bad us patched firmware might not have been a good idea |
| 04:43:14 | Rob2222 | US player? |
| 04:43:23 | ModernExecutive | i probably should have flashed to a regular iriver firmware first and then to the patched fw |
| 04:43:40 | Rob2222 | what player you have? |
| 04:43:42 | Kyl3 | I'm sending the fw now |
| 04:43:46 | ModernExecutive | thx |
| 04:44:03 | Rob2222 | well, whats the problem at the moment? |
| 04:44:03 | Kyl3 | then ill send the latest optimized for h300 build |
| 04:44:17 | Kyl3 | The problem is he did an experiment for Linus |
| 04:44:18 | ModernExecutive | although i have no idea how i'm going to upgrade w/o the navi button working |
| 04:44:43 | Kyl3 | And it broke his player |
| 04:44:46 | Rob2222 | what is working? RB and/or Iriver fw? |
| 04:45:22 | ModernExecutive | brb |
| 04:45:25 | Rob2222 | Kyl3: yes, but what does happen now? |
| 04:45:33 | Rob2222 | does the Bootloader work? |
| 04:45:38 | Kyl3 | I dunno |
| 04:45:46 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 04:45:51 | Kyl3 | He says it boots into the iriver fw |
| 04:45:55 | Kyl3 | when he presses on |
| 04:46:07 | Kyl3 | but the NAVI button doesnt function |
| 04:46:15 | Rob2222 | huh |
| 04:46:22 | Kyl3 | and its not seen by his computer |
| 04:46:31 | Rob2222 | double huh |
| 04:46:53 | Rob2222 | if navi is really not working with iriver FW .... |
| 04:46:55 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 04:46:58 | Kyl3 | he tried patching US firmware for Linus to see if it'll break the ability to play DRM files |
| 04:47:01 | Rob2222 | dotn know how to flash |
| 04:47:12 | Rob2222 | ah |
| 04:47:15 | Rob2222 | well |
| 04:47:23 | Kyl3 | and it did thats what the "cant found DRM key" is |
| 04:47:23 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 04:47:35 | Rob2222 | yes, what me is interesting |
| 04:47:41 | Rob2222 | when he get that message |
| 04:47:49 | Rob2222 | what is then? |
| 04:47:59 | Rob2222 | is the whole player not working? |
| 04:48:06 | Rob2222 | or only DRM files not working |
| 04:48:19 | Kyl3 | I dunno |
| 04:48:22 | Kyl3 | DRM isnt |
| 04:48:40 | Rob2222 | and he has an US player? |
| 04:48:46 | Kyl3 | (which was predicted) but the strange thing is NAVI button isnt working |
| 04:48:50 | Kyl3 | Yes he does |
| 04:49:02 | Rob2222 | 5am here, damn :( |
| 04:49:21 | Rob2222 | well |
| 04:49:37 | Rob2222 | i dont know how linus patched the fw |
| 04:50:49 | Kyl3 | through the descramble, mkboot, rescrable way I guess |
| 04:51:35 | Rob2222 | ok, i do know almost nothing about the BL |
| 04:51:42 | ModernExecutive | hi |
| 04:51:53 | Rob2222 | hi |
| 04:51:53 | Kyl3 | Both SENT |
| 04:51:56 | Rob2222 | ane? |
| 04:52:12 | ModernExecutive | receiving |
| 04:52:23 | Rob2222 | ModernExecutive: still no navi key working? |
| 04:52:31 | ModernExecutive | received |
| 04:52:34 | Rob2222 | have you restartet / reset the unit? |
| 04:52:42 | Kyl3 | .hex and the build? |
| 04:52:42 | ModernExecutive | i have reset the unit |
| 04:52:47 | ModernExecutive | it's the only way to turn it off |
| 04:52:53 | ModernExecutive | no build yet |
| 04:52:57 | ModernExecutive | just the hex |
| 04:53:13 | Kyl3 | well umm try your best to flash it |
| 04:53:31 | ModernExecutive | i think the only buttons that work are the on button and the a-b button |
| 04:53:41 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 04:54:00 | ModernExecutive | at least on the iriver side |
| 04:54:00 | Rob2222 | if linus replaced the wrong part of the original fw? |
| 04:54:06 | lostlogic | /win3 |
| 04:54:10 | lostlogic | gah, sorry. |
| 04:54:15 | Rob2222 | i dont think ... |
| 04:54:18 | ModernExecutive | hi ll |
| 04:54:27 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: Windows 3.1? |
| 04:54:47 | lostlogic | hehe, irssi, was trying to do /win tab 3 to change to window number 3. |
| 04:55:00 | ModernExecutive | what does linus do to unbrick a bricked player? |
| 04:55:18 | Kyl3 | flahes it with the BDM |
| 04:55:22 | lostlogic | ModernExecutive: he has a BDM wiggler (serial connection) to the flash so he can reprogram it. |
| 04:55:23 | Rob2222 | yep |
| 04:55:32 | Rob2222 | linus has a bdm? |
| 04:55:37 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
| 04:55:38 | ModernExecutive | can i pick that up at my local compusa? ;) |
| 04:55:43 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 04:55:49 | Rob2222 | no :) |
| 04:55:52 | Rob2222 | (i think) |
| 04:55:57 | lostlogic | probably not... Frys maybe. |
| 04:55:59 | Kyl3 | no |
| 04:56:06 | Kyl3 | not compusa |
| 04:56:09 | lostlogic | ModernExecutive: did you get your query answered |
| 04:56:20 | ModernExecutive | kind |
| 04:56:21 | ModernExecutive | a |
| 04:56:26 | ModernExecutive | brb |
| 04:56:29 | Kyl3 | you could send it to linus, or wait for your rma |
| 04:56:46 | Rob2222 | ou thats expensive |
| 04:56:53 | Rob2222 | linus is here in europe, or? |
| 04:56:56 | Rob2222 | and ME in USA? |
| 04:57:05 | Kyl3 | i dunno |
| 04:57:15 | Kyl3 | i think linus is switzerland |
| 04:57:38 | Rob2222 | wasnt it anything up in the high north? |
| 04:58:00 | Membrillo | Linus is in Stockholm |
| 04:58:02 | lostlogic | is he the same place as the haxx.se site? |
| 04:58:25 | Membrillo | always remember that cos it reminds me of that Muse song "Stockholm Syndrome" |
| 04:58:43 | Kyl3 | isnt that blink 182 |
| 04:59:11 | Membrillo | nope |
| 04:59:13 | Membrillo | Muse |
| 04:59:18 | Membrillo | off the Absolution album |
| 04:59:41 | Kyl3 | blink 182 had a song called stockholm syndrome |
| 04:59:56 | Kyl3 | off their blink 182 album |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:25 | ModernExecutive | well |
| 05:00:31 | ModernExecutive | let that be a lesson to me |
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| 05:00:43 | aliask | Yeah well the Muse one is better. |
| 05:00:56 | Kyl3 | it prolly is |
| 05:00:57 | Kyl3 | lol |
| 05:00:58 | Membrillo | aliask: haha i agree |
| 05:00:58 | ModernExecutive | ... i just find it hard to believe that the fwpatcher made a bad hex |
| 05:01:06 | Kyl3 | nite all |
| 05:01:09 | aliask | Night |
| 05:01:16 | Kyl3 | sorry ME |
| 05:01:22 | lostlogic | so wait, what happens with your player when you try to turn it on? |
| 05:01:31 | | Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 05:01:35 | ModernExecutive | first, i have to have it hooked up to the charger |
| 05:01:44 | ModernExecutive | the player doesn't seem to care that the battery was fully charged |
| 05:02:04 | lostlogic | There is up until this point a zero brick ratio from rockbox flashes, so I'd be surprised if you became the first. |
| 05:02:06 | ModernExecutive | second, when i just hit "on", there's no backlight and it boots to the iriver firmware |
| 05:02:42 | ModernExecutive | third, the only buttons that seem to work within the iriver firmware are on, record, and a-b |
| 05:02:55 | Rob2222_ | lostlogic: it was a test for linus |
| 05:03:21 | ModernExecutive | ... because navi doesn't work, i can't access the configuration menus |
| 05:03:24 | Rob2222_ | ModernExecutive: the whole iriver FW is without backlight? |
| 05:03:27 | ModernExecutive | yep |
| 05:03:40 | lostlogic | ... did Linus say that it was unfixable without sending the player to him? |
| 05:03:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I bet it's not |
| 05:03:58 | lostlogic | the no backlight thing, I think there was a weird fix for involving pressing weird buttons. |
| 05:04:01 | Rob2222_ | it really sounds, like the patch has replaced the wrong part of the iriver fw |
| 05:04:03 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, tha'ts what I"m thinking. |
| 05:04:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you can still load Rockbox, couldn't you load an app that *just* reflashes with a commercial firmware image? |
| 05:04:25 | ModernExecutive | how do i load rockbox? |
| 05:04:31 | lostlogic | he can't load rockbox |
| 05:04:39 | ModernExecutive | and can i connect via usb if i could load rockbox? |
| 05:04:45 | lostlogic | yes |
| 05:04:46 | Rob2222_ | yes |
| 05:04:54 | lostlogic | what happens when you just plug up USB currently? |
| 05:05:02 | Rob2222_ | have you a bootloader screen at startup? |
| 05:05:32 | ModernExecutive | when i press on, it goes to the iriver firmware startup logo |
| 05:05:45 | Rob2222_ | immidiately? |
| 05:05:48 | ModernExecutive | yes |
| 05:06:01 | Rob2222_ | and when player is off and connecting usb? |
| 05:06:14 | Rob2222_ | does it switch on? |
| 05:06:34 | lostlogic | it does sound like the patcher replaced the wrong part, tbh. maybe my previous statement was wrong. The DRM part of the US firmware probably confused it. |
| 05:06:38 | ModernExecutive | if the player is off and i just connect usb to the data port, nothing happens |
| 05:06:52 | Rob2222_ | yeah |
| 05:07:01 | Rob2222_ | sounds like the RB BL doesnt get loaded |
| 05:07:21 | lostlogic | damn dude, sorry, I guess you -are- the first... what a crappy thing to be the first of. |
| 05:07:32 | Rob2222_ | ModernExecutive Have you installed rockbox itself on the HD, yet? |
| 05:07:47 | ModernExecutive | i had needleboy's build copied to the root before i flashed |
| 05:08:06 | Rob2222_ | ok, so the .rockbox sdirectory was at the root? |
| 05:08:09 | ModernExecutive | yep |
| 05:08:18 | ModernExecutive | so far as I remember |
| 05:08:19 | Rob2222_ | and the .iriver file at root, too? |
| 05:08:23 | ModernExecutive | yep |
| 05:08:30 | Rob2222_ | have you usb connection under iriver FW? |
| 05:08:59 | ModernExecutive | the player says connected, but winxp doesn't show it as a drive |
| 05:11:07 | ModernExecutive | device manager doesn't even show it |
| 05:12:39 | Rob2222_ | hmm |
| 05:12:41 | Rob2222_ | bad |
| 05:12:50 | Rob2222_ | and what you said with RMA? |
| 05:13:11 | Rob2222_ | Must you RMA cause that test or was there anything other? |
| 05:13:32 | ModernExecutive | i had a problem with the player's internal microphone |
| 05:14:16 | Rob2222_ | so that unit must to rma, even without test? |
| 05:14:16 | ModernExecutive | it sounded like there was a loose connection inside, popping all the time during a recording, especially when the player was moving |
| 05:14:33 | ModernExecutive | i already had an rma going |
| 05:14:43 | Rob2222_ | ah ok |
| 05:14:49 | Rob2222_ | and thats the old unit? |
| 05:15:03 | ModernExecutive | hopefully, iriver will keep their word and send me the replacement unit before i send this one back. |
| 05:15:13 | ModernExecutive | ... so i can wipe the HDD of anything rbx related |
| 05:15:42 | Membrillo | they're pretty generous when it comes to rockbox |
| 05:15:55 | Membrillo | heck, half the people in this channel could work for iriver |
| 05:16:17 | ModernExecutive | ... |
| 05:16:19 | Membrillo | they wouldnt be oblivious to it |
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| 05:16:36 | Membrillo | no ones had an RMA turned down because of RB on their hd |
| 05:16:50 | ModernExecutive | that's encouraging |
| 05:16:58 | Rob2222_ | well |
| 05:17:02 | Membrillo | thats sarcasm? |
| 05:17:10 | ModernExecutive | no... that's sincere |
| 05:17:18 | Rob2222_ | with such a great firmware like rockbox they sell more players |
| 05:17:19 | Membrillo | terrific :) |
| 05:17:24 | Rob2222_ | they should support it :) |
| 05:17:31 | Rob2222_ | but well |
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| 05:17:41 | Rob2222_ | H300 is discontinued, isnt it? |
| 05:17:46 | ModernExecutive | anyone know of any way to format the drive independent of the h300? |
| 05:17:59 | Rob2222_ | yea |
| 05:18:04 | Membrillo | Rob2222: exactly. To be honest, i dont think they have a problem with it. Theyre not pro-rockbox, but theyre not anti-rockbox either. They tolerate it |
| 05:18:04 | Rob2222_ | i have a USB |
| 05:18:07 | ModernExecutive | in other words, is there a device that can plug into and operate the toshiba drive in there |
| 05:18:16 | Rob2222_ | ModernExecutive buy a usb case for it |
| 05:18:29 | Rob2222_ | i have my old iriver 40GB disk in a usb case |
| 05:18:30 | ModernExecutive | ... available at the local compusa? |
| 05:18:38 | Rob2222_ | lol, dont know |
| 05:18:41 | Rob2222_ | aviable at ebay |
| 05:18:42 | Rob2222_ | :) |
| 05:18:46 | Membrillo | or buy a 1.8" to IDE converter |
| 05:18:53 | Membrillo | and plug the hd right into your computer |
| 05:18:59 | Membrillo | a LOT cheaper |
| 05:19:01 | Rob2222_ | 1,8 to IDE? |
| 05:19:06 | Rob2222_ | does it exist? |
| 05:19:12 | Membrillo | yrp |
| 05:19:14 | Membrillo | yep* |
| 05:19:26 | Rob2222_ | link? |
| 05:19:40 | Membrillo | http://www.addonics.com/products/io/aaedt18ide25.asp |
| 05:19:42 | lostlogic | I just got a 1.8-to-USB thing |
| 05:19:44 | lostlogic | from drive solutions |
| 05:19:45 | lostlogic | good |
| 05:19:49 | Rob2222_ | http://cgi.ebay.de/50-bis-40-Stift-IDE-Adapter-fuer-NB-1-8-Harddisk-CF_W0QQitemZ8750294302QQcategoryZ79424QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 05:19:49 | Membrillo | theres one |
| 05:19:51 | Rob2222_ | ah ok |
| 05:20:39 | ashridah | yeah. you can buy them, but they won't be as common as laptop->ide converters, which are a different size iirc. |
| 05:20:43 | Membrillo | Rob2222: yep thats perfect |
| 05:20:53 | lostlogic | laptop is 2.5 usually except for thin-and-lights |
| 05:21:19 | ashridah | lostlogic: yeah, 1.8" and friends end up in tablets and portable things like mp3 players |
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| 05:22:15 | Membrillo | if anyone has a dead H340, could i buy the HD off you? |
| 05:22:20 | Membrillo | i want to put it in my h320 |
| 05:22:28 | lostlogic | it's 1mm thicker |
| 05:22:30 | ashridah | Membrillo: will that fit? |
| 05:22:35 | lostlogic | how you goin' ta fit it? |
| 05:22:36 | Rob2222_ | ModernExecutive: Is there no one with a BDM in the USA? |
| 05:22:37 | ModernExecutive | ashridah: yes it will |
| 05:22:44 | ModernExecutive | rob: the USA is pretty large |
| 05:22:44 | ashridah | wouldn't you need to get a smaller battery to compensate? |
| 05:22:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Word is a 1.8" 120 gb is due out by the end of '06. (At least, someone was claiming they'll have one by the end of the year" |
| 05:22:47 | Rob2222_ | i mean @ all |
| 05:22:53 | Membrillo | it should fit shouldnt it? |
| 05:22:58 | ModernExecutive | i'm sure there's somebody with a bdm... especially in california |
| 05:23:08 | Rob2222_ | ModernExecutive: I think about shipping costs :) |
| 05:23:08 | ModernExecutive | ... but in eastern virginia, that's a bit of a trek |
| 05:23:21 | Rob2222_ | ModernExecutive: Shipping to linus and back would be expensive i think |
| 05:23:33 | Membrillo | so having a 40gb and an ipod battery is out of the question for my h320?? |
| 05:23:35 | ModernExecutive | probably |
| 05:23:48 | lostlogic | heh, probably, I can barely close my 340 with that combo |
| 05:23:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Membrillo: Single-platter 40gbs are available, they're just expensive. |
| 05:23:58 | Rob2222_ | Membrillo: what would you like to pay? |
| 05:24:12 | Membrillo | Rob2222_: where do you live? |
| 05:24:16 | lostlogic | http://www.drivesolutions.com/cgi-bin/shop/store.cgi?command=listitems&kind=1.8in&pos=0&type=group&group=1.8in |
| 05:24:16 | Membrillo | for shipping |
| 05:24:17 | Rob2222_ | germany |
| 05:24:23 | Membrillo | hmmm |
| 05:24:28 | Rob2222_ | but well |
| 05:24:30 | Membrillo | quite expensive to ship to AUS then |
| 05:24:34 | Rob2222_ | yeah |
| 05:24:36 | Rob2222_ | and |
| 05:24:40 | | Part josh_ |
| 05:24:54 | Rob2222_ | i think its better to behold my 40gb drive, if i must RMA anywhen |
| 05:24:54 | Membrillo | is that USD? |
| 05:24:59 | lostlogic | and I just got: http://www.drivesolutions.com/cgi-bin/shop/bstore.cgi?command=listitems&pos=0&type=itemid&kind=kit&itemid=a8.1 (if others were interested in making a 1.8in portable hdd) |
| 05:25:59 | Rob2222_ | Membrillo: 40GB drive in H320 is even close.... |
| 05:26:10 | Membrillo | hmmm |
| 05:26:21 | Rob2222_ | 53 USD?! |
| 05:26:25 | Membrillo | lostlogic: there arent any 40gb single platters on that site you linked |
| 05:26:31 | Rob2222_ | i payed 20 eur |
| 05:26:41 | ModernExecutive | how does the bdm connect to the h300? |
| 05:26:52 | Rob2222_ | good question. |
| 05:26:56 | Rob2222_ | next question. |
| 05:26:58 | Rob2222_ | ;) |
| 05:27:02 | Rob2222_ | mom |
| 05:27:03 | lostlogic | isn't he 4006GAH? |
| 05:27:25 | Rob2222_ | WTF |
| 05:27:31 | Membrillo | is GAH single platter? |
| 05:27:33 | Rob2222_ | why is iriverlounge closed? |
| 05:27:37 | Rob2222_ | no |
| 05:27:39 | Rob2222_ | afaik |
| 05:27:40 | lostlogic | 4004 is double 4006 is single I think |
| 05:27:46 | Rob2222_ | H=high |
| 05:27:52 | Rob2222_ | L= low |
| 05:27:55 | Rob2222_ | wasnt it so? |
| 05:28:15 | ModernExecutive | well, guys |
| 05:28:19 | ModernExecutive | this has been enough drama for one night |
| 05:28:20 | ModernExecutive | :) |
| 05:28:22 | ModernExecutive | take care |
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| 05:28:34 | Membrillo | MK-4006GAH or MK-4004GAH |
| 05:28:36 | Membrillo | wait |
| 05:28:42 | Membrillo | yeah thats right |
| 05:28:46 | Membrillo | which one of those |
| 05:28:47 | Rob2222_ | Membrillo: both double drives |
| 05:28:50 | Membrillo | dang |
| 05:28:57 | Rob2222_ | afaik |
| 05:29:08 | Rob2222_ | GAL = single platter |
| 05:29:12 | Rob2222_ | http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=hd1 |
| 05:29:35 | Membrillo | Well if i bought a bricked H340, could i use the case and the HDD on my h320? |
| 05:29:43 | Membrillo | to create a hybrid h320\40 |
| 05:29:56 | lostlogic | hmph, weird, wonder what the difference between the 4004, 4006 and 4008 GAH are then. |
| 05:30:26 | Membrillo | could you put a h340 case on a h320? |
| 05:30:28 | lostlogic | Membrillo: probably. |
| 05:31:17 | Membrillo | might consider that. I wonder with a h340 case, if i could fit a h340 hd and a newtech\camsino battery in my h320 |
| 05:31:25 | Membrillo | tight squeeze |
| 05:31:44 | lostlogic | Membrillo: Hmmmm I have a mostly intact H340 case, and a working drive sittin' in front of me... |
| 05:31:46 | Rob2222_ | there was someone |
| 05:31:50 | lostlogic | the case has one broken screw blastic thingy |
| 05:31:54 | Rob2222_ | bould a High drive in a H320 |
| 05:31:58 | Membrillo | is it only the hd that effects the phsyical size between h320s and h340s? |
| 05:31:58 | Rob2222_ | build |
| 05:32:06 | Rob2222_ | yep |
| 05:32:12 | Rob2222_ | and the drive speed in MB/s |
| 05:32:13 | Rob2222_ | ;) |
| 05:32:42 | Membrillo | lostlogic, are they for sale? |
| 05:33:10 | lostlogic | Membrillo: under debate... considering I did just get an enclosure for the HDD to use it as a portable drive... /msg me |
| 05:33:44 | Membrillo | how do i /msg |
| 05:33:59 | lostlogic | /msg lostlogic yourmsg |
| 05:34:03 | Membrillo | ah |
| 05:36:17 | Rob2222_ | ducducpham has replaced the MK2006GAL in his H320 with an MK4004GAH 40GB drive. To do this, however, the rubber padding must be removed (which may not be the best idea) |
| 05:36:23 | Rob2222_ | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=16205 |
| 05:36:32 | Rob2222_ | thats a 40gb drive in a H320 |
| 05:36:51 | Membrillo | looks like ill need a h340 case then |
| 05:37:13 | Rob2222_ | not really |
| 05:37:18 | Rob2222_ | look that thread |
| 05:38:58 | Membrillo | looks a bit dodgy |
| 05:39:03 | Rob2222_ | but insert a drive without padding .... i dont know |
| 05:39:06 | Rob2222_ | yeah |
| 05:39:11 | Membrillo | the blue padding replaced with tape |
| 05:39:30 | Membrillo | might be a bit susseptable to damage from bumps |
| 05:39:49 | Rob2222_ | heres a FAQ with drive upgrade infos |
| 05:39:51 | Rob2222_ | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=18911 |
| 05:41:13 | Rob2222_ | but why is iriverlounge closed ?! |
| 05:41:57 | Membrillo | the 4, 6 and 8 designate model years |
| 05:42:17 | Rob2222_ | no not really |
| 05:42:32 | Rob2222_ | one has another connector i think |
| 05:43:12 | Rob2222_ | the 08 have a Zero Insertion Force (ZIF) connector |
| 05:43:31 | Rob2222_ | 06 was the "old" one |
| 05:43:45 | Rob2222_ | and 07 has Perpendicular Magnetic Recording technology (PMR) |
| 05:43:54 | Membrillo | so ill be looking at 200 dollars australian |
| 05:44:12 | Rob2222_ | what you want to buy? |
| 05:44:21 | Rob2222_ | 4007 GAL? |
| 05:44:27 | Rob2222_ | http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=810000000007000000010000659800000000/810000000B0C000000010000659C000026BD |
| 05:44:28 | Membrillo | i think so |
| 05:44:37 | Rob2222_ | yeah |
| 05:44:52 | Rob2222_ | 80GB in a H320 would be nice |
| 05:44:54 | Rob2222_ | ^^ |
| 05:45:13 | Rob2222_ | For that i would really think about remove padding ;) |
| 05:46:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, as I said, somewhere I read that Toshiba had announced plans for a 120gb dual platter (which would imply a 60gb single platter) by the end of the year |
| 05:46:06 | Membrillo | nah i will only need a 40 |
| 05:46:25 | Membrillo | a 40 would suit me fine |
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| 05:46:40 | Membrillo | ive just filled my 20, and i hate deleting things |
| 05:47:01 | Rob2222_ | my 60gb is amlost full :( |
| 05:47:26 | Rob2222_ | http://www.misticriver.net/wiki/index.php/Customize_Your_H3xx has the H300 stock battery really only 1300mAh? |
| 05:50:12 | Membrillo | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MK3006GAL-iPod-Hard-Drive-Parts-Repair-30GB-Broken-4G_W0QQitemZ5852192933QQcategoryZ73837QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 05:50:15 | Membrillo | check out that |
| 05:50:18 | Membrillo | 30gb |
| 05:50:39 | Membrillo | $30 |
| 05:50:43 | Membrillo | to good to be true |
| 05:51:22 | Rob2222_ | its defect |
| 05:51:24 | Rob2222_ | i bet |
| 05:51:51 | Membrillo | haha |
| 05:52:04 | Membrillo | if you read the questions the buyer isnt sure wether it will work |
| 05:52:14 | Membrillo | i can only assume that it's bad. it doesn't make any loud clicking noises, but i couldn't get it to work. |
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| 05:55:37 | Rob2222_ | i killed a 10gb 1,2" HD |
| 05:55:47 | Membrillo | http://cgi.ebay.com/60GB-Ipod-replacement-hard-drive-Toshiba-1-8_W0QQitemZ8750812490QQcategoryZ16178QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 05:55:50 | Rob2222_ | and you didnt see that |
| 05:55:51 | Membrillo | if your interested |
| 05:56:12 | Rob2222_ | nice price |
| 05:56:28 | Rob2222_ | but i have a 60GB in my player 2 weeks after they were on market ;) |
| 05:56:35 | Membrillo | in what player? |
| 05:56:38 | Rob2222_ | but i payd 200 Euro |
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| 05:56:42 | Rob2222_ | H340 @ 60 |
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| 05:57:21 | Membrillo | so to put that 60gb into my h320, i would need an h340 case or remove the padding |
| 05:59:59 | Rob2222_ | right |
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| 06:00:45 | Membrillo | looks like i wont be doing any harddrive upgrades |
| 06:00:50 | Membrillo | its all too pricey |
| 06:01:11 | Membrillo | a 40gb is going to put me back 230 dollars (half the price of the player |
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| 06:02:42 | Rob2222_ | i payed 200 euro, too |
| 06:02:54 | Membrillo | i dont have that kinda cash :P |
| 06:03:01 | Rob2222_ | teh 40gb single patter is expensive cause the new system |
| 06:04:11 | Membrillo | although i could always buy my friends broken ipod and put my old HD in it and sell that off |
| 06:04:35 | Rob2222_ | yeah |
| 06:05:05 | Membrillo | what do you think of the quality of this battery |
| 06:05:07 | Membrillo | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/IPOD-BATTERY-2200mAh-GENERATION-1-2-1G-2G-NEW_W0QQitemZ5853231543QQcategoryZ48680QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 06:05:30 | Rob2222_ | good question |
| 06:05:47 | Rob2222_ | i read anywhere that you have to reverse polarity on the iüod battery |
| 06:05:55 | Rob2222_ | to use it in the iriver |
| 06:06:17 | Membrillo | yeah i know that. But i dont want to buy a dodgy battery that will bloat in my iriver |
| 06:06:58 | Rob2222_ | ah |
| 06:07:00 | Rob2222_ | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=4680&page=7 |
| 06:07:03 | Rob2222_ | ok |
| 06:07:04 | Rob2222_ | well |
| 06:08:27 | Membrillo | I've read how to do it. Just gotta find one to buy |
| 06:08:49 | ashridah | fuck. more bloody forums than friends have wished me a happy birthday yet. i spend far too much time online |
| 06:09:04 | Membrillo | hahahaha |
| 06:09:15 | Membrillo | now wouldnt be a good time to say happy birthday would it |
| 06:09:27 | Rob2222_ | lol |
| 06:09:28 | ashridah | :( |
| 06:09:30 | ashridah | heh |
| 06:09:33 | ashridah | nah, it's okay. |
| 06:09:42 | Membrillo | Happy Birthday Ash! |
| 06:09:44 | Rob2222_ | happy birthday ;) |
| 06:10:33 | Rob2222_ | ashridah: http://home.att.net/~cecw/lastpage.htm |
| 06:10:56 | Rob2222_ | http://www.stud.fernuni-hagen.de/q6551254/ |
| 06:11:00 | Rob2222_ | :) |
| 06:11:23 | ashridah | if that's the last page on the internet, i've already seen it. i'm playing through it again to find all the secrets |
| 06:11:30 | ashridah | next time through i'm using cheat codes |
| 06:11:49 | Rob2222_ | lol |
| 06:11:53 | Rob2222_ | :) |
| 06:11:55 | Rob2222_ | damn |
| 06:11:57 | Rob2222_ | 6am here |
| 06:12:08 | Rob2222_ | im to long online, too |
| 06:13:42 | Rob2222_ | night all |
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| 06:34:00 | munkymonkjr | hi |
| 06:35:15 | * | aliask holds his breath. |
| 06:35:50 | munkymonkjr | i need some help ASAP regarding iRiver H300 + rockbox. I accidentally opened the jpeg plugin and well...it froze! the screen is on and there is no responce to any buttons! what do i do to unfreeze it? |
| 06:39:59 | DrumRBoy320|Away | stick an opened up paper clip in the hole on the side |
| 06:40:15 | DrumRBoy320|Away | the reset hole |
| 06:40:21 | DrumRBoy320|Away | that should do it |
| 06:44:58 | munkymonkjr | thanks a lot my man. wow...it has a rest holle? i've owned this thing for a YEAR and i never knew that |
| 06:45:21 | ashridah | heh |
| 06:45:25 | ashridah | it's more obvious on the H1xx |
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| 06:57:08 | _lars | lo |
| 06:58:43 | _lars | anyone read my reaction to the iDoom topic on Mistic? Is there anyone willing to help me with porting iDoom? you can get the source from here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~hyarion/highbw/iDoom_src.zip |
| 06:59:01 | _lars | it's just... too much to do at your own |
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| 07:01:02 | _lars | getting bussy here |
| 07:01:03 | _lars | :P |
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| 07:02:40 | Lost-ash | _lars: bah, iirc, someone ported doom to the interactive texture system in doom3. |
| 07:02:52 | Lost-ash | how hard can it be to get it to run on rockbox? :) |
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| 11:33:26 | _lars | lo |
| 11:33:27 | jelle-k | hoi lars |
| 11:33:39 | _lars | EEK!! some text |
| 11:33:40 | _lars | :P |
| 11:33:44 | jelle-k | rofl |
| 11:33:50 | jelle-k | het is gewoon stil in dit kanaal? |
| 11:34:14 | _lars | Yeah, but then it would have been quiet for over 2 hours :X |
| 11:34:22 | _lars | Talk english ;) |
| 11:34:29 | jelle-k | mmmmkay |
| 11:34:32 | jelle-k | :P |
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| 11:37:21 | jelle-k2 | lars? |
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| 11:44:33 | lars2 | arg |
| 11:44:38 | lars2 | stupid bouncer |
| 11:44:42 | jelle-k2 | :P |
| 11:44:55 | lars2 | at _lars i can't see anything you chat in here :X |
| 11:45:28 | lars2 | but from direct connection lars2 i can see _lars chatting |
| 11:45:53 | lars2 | so sorry if I didn't react this morning about the iDoom port |
| 11:46:04 | lars2 | still volunteers willing to help? |
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| 11:46:40 | lars2 | lets see if it's already in the logs.... |
| 11:48:49 | lars2 | found it: anyone read my reaction to the iDoom topic on Mistic? Is there anyone willing to help me with porting iDoom? you can get the source from here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~hyarion/highbw/iDoom_src.zip |
| 11:49:07 | lars2 | it's just... too much to do at your own |
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| 11:58:47 | lars | lo |
| 11:58:59 | lars | hopefully it will finally work now :x |
| 11:59:17 | jelle-k | :) |
| 11:59:20 | jelle-k | i hope so |
| 11:59:34 | lars | me 2 |
| 11:59:36 | lars | :) |
| 11:59:38 | jelle-k | :D |
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| 12:02:11 | larsie90 | hehe |
| 12:02:16 | larsie90 | this one isn't |
| 12:02:17 | larsie90 | B) |
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| 12:28:29 | needleboy | drumrboy, thanks for the help with the H300 Optimized logo |
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| 12:31:13 | Membrillo | anyone know of any apps that batch remove silence from mp3 tracks without re-encoding? |
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| 12:31:33 | Membrillo | from the ends of tracks that is |
| 12:34:02 | ashridah | well, you can't really remove all of it |
| 12:34:19 | Membrillo | what do you mean? |
| 12:34:31 | ashridah | mp3 doesn't allow for variable sized frames |
| 12:34:39 | Membrillo | i ripped a cd and my ripping app was a bitch and added 2 seconds of silence |
| 12:34:52 | Membrillo | hmmm |
| 12:34:54 | ashridah | so unless the mp3 magically manages to have it's last non-silent sample on the boundary of a frame, you're going to get *some* silence |
| 12:34:57 | Membrillo | so what would you advice i do |
| 12:35:00 | ashridah | ouch |
| 12:35:12 | Membrillo | hmmm |
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| 12:35:13 | ashridah | rerip it, and use something other than mp3, that has variable framesizes |
| 12:35:13 | Membrillo | tricky |
| 12:35:50 | Membrillo | yeah, i want to rip to OGG or FLAC but Neros Save Tracks function only rips to MP3 at the moment |
| 12:35:56 | Membrillo | what do you use to rip? |
| 12:36:06 | ashridah | for windows? |
| 12:36:08 | Membrillo | yep |
| 12:36:09 | ashridah | last time, i used cdex |
| 12:36:22 | Membrillo | cdex aye? |
| 12:36:32 | ashridah | if you add ogg vorbis directshow codecs to your system, you can encode to that |
| 12:36:35 | Membrillo | does that have freedb lookups? |
| 12:36:43 | ashridah | yes |
| 12:36:48 | Membrillo | nice |
| 12:36:55 | Membrillo | might check it out. Nero is pissing me off |
| 12:37:09 | Membrillo | ill have to reborrow the cd though. ah ewll |
| 12:37:12 | Membrillo | well* |
| 12:37:20 | ashridah | heh. pirate :) |
| 12:37:43 | Membrillo | hey, who said they were copyrighted cds :P |
| 12:37:56 | Membrillo | could be a friends personal recording |
| 12:37:59 | Membrillo | never assume ;) |
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| 12:38:10 | ashridah | anyway, i like ogg as a general lossy codec. flac's good for archiving (ie, rip to flac, burn many cds to a bunch of dvdr's, and use that as backups and/or a source for transcoding |
| 12:38:32 | Membrillo | yeah |
| 12:38:35 | Membrillo | sounds good |
| 12:38:40 | Membrillo | i like the sound of oggs |
| 12:38:49 | ashridah | Membrillo: if they were a friends personal recording of anything other than the friend's own performance of the friend's own work... |
| 12:38:54 | ashridah | then why didn;'t he just burn you a copy? :) |
| 12:39:21 | Membrillo | well... they are cheap and cant afford cdrs *rolls eyes* |
| 12:39:33 | ashridah | right |
| 12:39:37 | Membrillo | haha |
| 12:39:55 | Membrillo | cdex looks discontinued |
| 12:40:29 | ashridah | hm. i used it a month ago |
| 12:40:48 | ashridah | admittedly, i don' |
| 12:40:51 | ashridah | t use it particularly often |
| 12:41:05 | Membrillo | wait found it. one sourceforge page said they needed help getting a site or something |
| 12:41:14 | Membrillo | but i found another with a download |
| 12:41:17 | ashridah | yeah, many projects don't like cdex |
| 12:41:28 | ashridah | s/cdex/sourceforge |
| 12:41:39 | ashridah | i really need to stop watching a dvd and trying to talk at the same time |
| 12:41:50 | ashridah | but sourceforge is a pain to deal with. |
| 12:42:07 | Bagder | indeed it is |
| 12:42:16 | Membrillo | haha yeah ok, get back to your DVD :) |
| 12:42:40 | Membrillo | they have an australian mirror though, which is useful |
| 12:42:41 | Membrillo | somehow |
| 12:42:57 | ashridah | Bagder: once (or more) burned, twice shy, eh? |
| 12:43:35 | * | Bagder used to host lots of project stuff on sourceforge too |
| 12:43:55 | Bagder | until it got unbearable |
| 12:44:06 | Bagder | pity |
| 12:44:15 | Membrillo | ahh lucky. Most of the cds arent made to be gapless so i can live with that silence |
| 12:44:26 | Membrillo | just one or two i need to reborrow |
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| 12:49:36 | jelle-k | vorbis rocks 8) |
| 12:50:10 | Membrillo | has anyone here got custom made sleeves for their shures? |
| 12:50:24 | ashridah | shures? |
| 12:50:33 | Membrillo | shure e2\3\4\5 |
| 12:50:33 | ashridah | is that a euphemism? |
| 12:52:10 | Membrillo | not intentionally |
| 12:52:46 | ashridah | i'm still not sure what a "shure" is. i assume it's a player or something. |
| 12:52:56 | Membrillo | shure earphones? |
| 12:53:27 | Membrillo | quite popular among iriver folks |
| 12:53:33 | ashridah | aah |
| 12:53:40 | ashridah | i'm a sennheiser first. |
| 12:53:46 | ashridah | s/first/man/ |
| 12:53:48 | Membrillo | ah ok |
| 12:54:28 | * | ashridah has 3 pairs of them around the house |
| 12:54:57 | Membrillo | nice |
| 12:55:22 | Membrillo | i own sennheiser hd202 (i think?) headphones |
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| 12:55:43 | Skydemon | KOSS plugs ) |
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| 12:56:11 | Membrillo | ashridah: what DAP's do you own? |
| 12:56:25 | ashridah | H140. |
| 12:56:40 | Membrillo | nice |
| 12:56:43 | ashridah | unless you count my phone, technically it can play mp3's. |
| 12:56:50 | Membrillo | i wish id bought an h1xx |
| 12:57:29 | Membrillo | i had no idea about the iriver series until I bought an h320 (the only iriver in the shop) and went on MisticRiver |
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| 12:58:14 | ashridah | ah, i did a bit of research first, i've got a lot of ogg vorbis files |
| 12:58:28 | Membrillo | i rather listen to music than watch video or play games. so h1xx should of been my choice |
| 12:58:35 | ashridah | although the H140 had only just come into stock when i bought it, so it was fairly lucky that i got it |
| 12:58:39 | * | ashridah nods |
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| 12:58:55 | f0g | rockbox can play video ? |
| 12:59:06 | Membrillo | oh ok. Well it was only once i bought my h3xx that i seriously started my music collection |
| 12:59:22 | linuxstb | f0g: Only on the Archos devices. |
| 12:59:25 | ashridah | f0g: no, but iriver's H3xx series can play it, at around 10fps, if the file is preprocessed on a PC |
| 12:59:39 | ashridah | (in iriver's firmware, that is) |
| 12:59:46 | f0g | ok |
| 12:59:49 | f0g | <: |
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| 13:00:33 | Membrillo | it will eventually though. Even if its still restricted to 10fps |
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| 13:01:55 | ashridah | of course, in the meantime, an ipod video would be a better choice, since it can play it at full speed on any file, more or less |
| 13:02:01 | ashridah | (well, reasonable file) |
| 13:02:04 | Membrillo | already got me one of those |
| 13:02:25 | Membrillo | i had my 4g converted to a video |
| 13:02:35 | linuxstb | ashridah: The only real limitation is that the ipod video will only play video files with AAC audio. So you always have to transcode. |
| 13:03:03 | ashridah | does it? |
| 13:03:05 | ashridah | ick |
| 13:03:08 | linuxstb | Yes :( |
| 13:03:09 | ashridah | what a poor business decision |
| 13:03:29 | ashridah | and yet, strikingly apple |
| 13:03:37 | Bagder | the ordinary ipod user is a itunes sucker anyway |
| 13:03:46 | linuxstb | But it even has a TV-Out, and is capable of playing files larger than the LCD size - 480x480 (or equivalent) |
| 13:04:19 | ashridah | linuxstb: yeah, i've heard |
| 13:04:32 | linuxstb | Happy birthday, btw. |
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| 13:05:59 | linuxstb | I tried the SDL sim on Mac OS last night, and made some progress. It starts, but the mac equivalent of the hour-glass is constantly displayed, and the sim doesn't accept any keyboard input. But it starts. |
| 13:06:04 | Membrillo | how do you get tv out to work, do you have to purchase another cable? |
| 13:06:12 | Membrillo | my ipod video didnt come with a tv out cable |
| 13:06:24 | ashridah | yep |
| 13:06:35 | ashridah | macistas love to accessorize |
| 13:06:36 | linuxstb | Membrillo: Yes, but a standard camcorder->TV cable will work as well. The video signal is on a third ring in the headphone socket. |
| 13:06:45 | Membrillo | thats what i hate about apple. You buy something off them, then spend the price of the product again to get it to do everything it can |
| 13:07:09 | Membrillo | oh, so its in the headphone port? nice |
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| 13:07:11 | linuxstb | Yep, the video ipod doesn't even come with an AC adapter. |
| 13:07:22 | jelle-k | LOL |
| 13:07:25 | Membrillo | so camcorder -> RCA? |
| 13:07:30 | jelle-k | 2 hours of video :P |
| 13:07:32 | linuxstb | Membrillo: Yes. |
| 13:08:02 | Membrillo | I only get an hour and a half of video. Straight out of the box |
| 13:08:08 | Membrillo | piece of shit |
| 13:08:17 | ashridah | rofl |
| 13:08:35 | linuxstb | I've never tried watching anything more than a few test videos. But the quality is nice. |
| 13:08:36 | Membrillo | cant even got through a cheesy short hollywood video |
| 13:08:42 | jelle-k | i like my h320 :P |
| 13:08:44 | linuxstb | Haven't tried it on the TV though. |
| 13:08:54 | amiconn | w00t |
| 13:08:58 | Membrillo | i will agree. The quality is very nice |
| 13:08:59 | amiconn | H340 arrived :-) |
| 13:09:07 | Membrillo | a bitch to get videos converted though |
| 13:09:12 | linuxstb | amiconn: So what's in your DAP collection now? |
| 13:09:18 | Membrillo | its almost as picky as the iriver video |
| 13:09:25 | jelle-k | ipod is overhyped |
| 13:09:47 | Membrillo | jelle-k: your telling me. Its nothing more than a fashion statement |
| 13:10:20 | Membrillo | friends of mine say. Wow, your iriver does so much more than the ipods. I would buy one, but i like white |
| 13:10:34 | amiconn | linuxstb: (chronological) Archos Jukebox Recorder v1 (80GB, white backlight), Archos Ondio 128 SP, Archos Jukebox Studio 10, Iriver H140, Archos Ondio 128 FM, Iriver H340 |
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| 13:10:35 | Membrillo | what a world we live in.... |
| 13:11:03 | amiconn | H340 is charging now... |
| 13:11:18 | linuxstb | How do you keep track of the chargers? :) |
| 13:11:21 | amiconn | How do I know which model it is? At boot it says 1.08E ... |
| 13:11:44 | jelle-k | international |
| 13:11:50 | jelle-k | thats good :) |
| 13:12:03 | Membrillo | amiconn: theyre for testing and dev purposes arent they? |
| 13:12:16 | amiconn | linuxstb: Fairly simple. Recorder v1 and Studio chargers are exchangeable. Ondios have no charger. H140 and H340 are identical spec-wise, but have different plugs |
| 13:12:36 | amiconn | The only danger is plugging an archos charger into the H140 |
| 13:12:49 | linuxstb | So Ondios charge via USB? |
| 13:12:52 | amiconn | No |
| 13:13:04 | amiconn | Ondios have no built-in charging at all |
| 13:13:13 | amiconn | They're meant to be run from alkalines |
| 13:13:28 | linuxstb | So what is the HAVE_USB_POWER define? |
| 13:13:38 | amiconn | ...but they draw power from USB instead of the batteries when they are connected |
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| 13:14:16 | linuxstb | I see. I used that same define for USB charging in the ipods. Maybe I shouldn't. |
| 13:14:18 | amiconn | You'll never have to worry about running out of battery when the Ondio is connected |
| 13:14:27 | amiconn | It even runs with the batteries removed |
| 13:14:37 | amiconn | linuxstb: No, that's correct |
| 13:14:58 | linuxstb | Are the fm recorder and recorderv2 the same? |
| 13:15:05 | linuxstb | I mean have the same type of usb power. |
| 13:15:39 | amiconn | HAVE_USB_POWER means the unit can draw power from USB, and therefore it's useful to allow rockbox operation while connected to USB instead of entering USB mode |
| 13:15:56 | amiconn | FM and V2 recorders charge from USB |
| 13:16:52 | amiconn | What kind of power draw that is (just running from it or charging) doesn't matter |
| 13:17:32 | amiconn | H340 will probably get HAVE_USB_POWER as well, as it can charge from it, like FM, v2 and iPod |
| 13:17:54 | linuxstb | BTW, I do like the idea of pressing a button to disable disk mode when inserting USB. ipodlinux's approach is to bring up a charge/disk mode dialog, so you always have to do something. |
| 13:18:07 | Membrillo | H3xx can't support HAVE_USB_POWER. USB doesn't supply enough juice |
| 13:18:14 | amiconn | ? |
| 13:18:24 | linuxstb | Membrillo: It provides enough juice to charge? |
| 13:18:44 | amiconn | USB can provide up to 500 mA |
| 13:18:49 | mirak | Membrillo: you can't get more than 1h30 of video playback ? |
| 13:18:57 | Membrillo | but usb cant provide enough power to run rockbox directly from the usb current right? |
| 13:19:05 | Membrillo | mirak: nope |
| 13:19:16 | mirak | Membrillo: you tried with smaller videos ? |
| 13:19:21 | Membrillo | yep |
| 13:19:24 | mirak | Membrillo: I mean smaller resolutions |
| 13:19:26 | amiconn | Since all disk-based jukeboxes I know of are self-powered in USB mode (from the battery) they don't need to draw power for USB operation |
| 13:19:33 | Membrillo | at lowest quality i get 2hours tops |
| 13:19:38 | amiconn | ...so almost 500 mA are available for charging |
| 13:19:44 | mirak | Membrillo: like a resolution matching exactly the screen |
| 13:19:52 | ashridah | powering a hard drive is only a problem for startup for usb's current limitations |
| 13:19:54 | Membrillo | mirak: yep |
| 13:20:20 | Membrillo | easiest settings for the ipod, ill get 2hr15min on a good day |
| 13:20:21 | mirak | I could watch Lost in the train on my H300 with just one quarter of the battery |
| 13:20:22 | ashridah | since the battery is there, and the PCF provides buffer against overdrain, you'd be able to use the battery to start the drive, then switch over to tricklecharge |
| 13:20:42 | linuxstb | Membrillo: Apparently it's the LCD that draws a lot of power on the ipod. |
| 13:20:46 | linuxstb | (video ipod I mean) |
| 13:20:47 | mirak | Membrillo: that's just 10 fps xvid, but well I can watch 6 hours of video probably |
| 13:20:48 | amiconn | Of course the battery may drain overall when your're charging and using the unit at the same time, with the disk spinning a lot |
| 13:21:02 | mirak | linuxstb: the screen is huge |
| 13:21:29 | Membrillo | hmmm yeah |
| 13:21:47 | Membrillo | its still a bit dissapointing. You think if apple advertised video, they would supply a better battery |
| 13:22:29 | amiconn | Are there two types of H340 front plates? |
| 13:22:30 | mirak | ashridah: was that you who tried to use the mod for charging from the usb cable ? |
| 13:22:34 | Membrillo | i mean were paying hundreds of dollars because it advertises video, which it does do legitimetely, but still... |
| 13:22:39 | mirak | or was it markun ? |
| 13:22:47 | amiconn | Mine has the 'Multi codec jukebox' at the right side of the LCD |
| 13:23:02 | mirak | amiconn: they all have it I think |
| 13:23:18 | ashridah | mirak: no |
| 13:23:45 | ashridah | mirak: the H1xx doesn't have the hardware necessary to charge and run from usb safely. |
| 13:23:58 | mirak | well on guy said that he cramed his USB port on the mother board |
| 13:24:23 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 13:24:25 | mirak | by doing the mod where you extract power from usb cable to direct it to the supply plug |
| 13:24:40 | mirak | it was usb1 |
| 13:24:45 | amiconn | I can't start the H340 from the charging screen. Is that normal? |
| 13:24:45 | mirak | maybe usb2 can handle more |
| 13:25:05 | ashridah | mirak: yeah, i really wouldn't recommend doing it to the motherboard |
| 13:25:25 | ashridah | since it's going to entirely depend on the quality of the motherboard's hardware as to wether it can sustain the current draw for that long |
| 13:25:35 | ashridah | i'd use a powered hub |
| 13:25:44 | mirak | that's what I use |
| 13:25:50 | linuxstb | amiconn: I think I've heard people say that you can't use the h340 at the same time as charging via USB. |
| 13:25:50 | amiconn | Ah, repeated button presses do the trick. |
| 13:26:04 | mirak | linuxstb: yes you can't |
| 13:26:08 | ashridah | mirak: it's less likely to be picky (or fatal to the pc) if it's overdrawn |
| 13:26:11 | amiconn | This wasn't USB charging |
| 13:26:12 | mirak | linuxstb: that's a shame |
| 13:26:40 | mirak | amiconn: well yes it was a plug mod |
| 13:26:49 | amiconn | ? |
| 13:27:17 | mirak | the mod consists in plugin the usb wire into the battery input |
| 13:27:26 | mirak | as well as in the usb input |
| 13:28:00 | mirak | to get charging from usb and ums at the same time |
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| 13:30:54 | mirak | the chargning from usb is already really slower than from AC power supply. So probably charging at the same time than using the H300 would make the charging really inneficient |
| 13:30:57 | mirak | and pointless |
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| 13:33:44 | lear | lol, there are acutally erlang bindings for sdl. :) |
| 13:34:03 | amiconn | ? |
| 13:34:32 | webguest55 | hmm, I think that the max amperage that a pc's usb port can supply is 500mAmp, this wont be enough to run the player and recharge the battery effectively |
| 13:34:59 | amiconn | It will still charge, or at least maintain battery level |
| 13:35:12 | lear | erlang is a language developed by Ericsson for use in their products. |
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| 13:35:24 | ashridah | i agree. the biggest spike of current is starting the hd. usb can usually just manage that |
| 13:35:27 | webguest55 | perhaps, suppose it depends on the load/amps the unit is drawing |
| 13:35:45 | webguest55 | excluding battery charging |
| 13:35:45 | ashridah | keeping it spun up is not as high a demand, so there should be current left over |
| 13:35:47 | linuxstb | The original ipod firmware allows you to use the player at the same time as charging, but you have to enter diskmode first, and then eject the ipod from your PC, whilst leaving the USB cable plugged in. |
| 13:36:06 | ashridah | as i say, i'd be more worried about frying the port than the unit |
| 13:36:25 | webguest55 | yep, dont think there re fuses there, dont know |
| 13:36:47 | ashridah | thus, using a powered hub is a better option |
| 13:36:49 | amiconn | The charging won't overdraw the USB current supply. The device always runs from battery, the charger (or USB) just charges |
| 13:36:52 | Membrillo | hmmm, when I 'safely remove hardware' my ipod recognizes that and exits USB mode. Could rockbox do that potentially |
| 13:36:55 | ashridah | they're far less likely to have current clamps, for starters |
| 13:37:24 | mirak | ashridah: by the way why would the drive need usb power to run ? Doesn't it just run from battery already ? I have heard that you can't use an H300 without a battery. |
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| 13:37:44 | webguest55 | amiconn, are you aure that the battery supllies operating power when its charging ? |
| 13:37:53 | ashridah | mirak: i'm talking about usb hd caddies in that respect (as a qualifier for "enough current from usb") |
| 13:38:05 | mirak | amiconn: you were faster, I look like a parrot :) |
| 13:38:15 | amiconn | So, if the unit needs momentarily more current than the charger provides, the battery will discharge during that time (still less than without USB charging) |
| 13:38:45 | ashridah | indeed |
| 13:39:00 | ashridah | if anything, you'll get longer runtime. |
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| 13:39:10 | amiconn | If the _average_ current draw of the unit is lower than what the charger/USB provides, the battery will still be charged |
| 13:39:22 | mirak | I think my battery dies in an hour if I forgot to unplug the usb when in UMS mode |
| 13:39:22 | webguest55 | I thought that the hardware supplies power directly to the unit if needed whilst charging, that way not interupting the charge cycle |
| 13:39:59 | amiconn | mirak: That's because the HD keeps spinning all the time in UMS mode. |
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| 13:40:30 | mirak | amiconn: yep. a power saving would be nice. Could rocbox do that when on idle ? |
| 13:40:47 | mirak | or it controls nothing about the drive when in ums mode ? |
| 13:40:48 | ashridah | mirak: no, but the PC can |
| 13:41:05 | amiconn | In UMS mode, the CPU has no control over the HD. The USB bridge has exclusive control |
| 13:41:06 | ashridah | the ums controller takes over, but the pc can tell it to go into power saving and back out |
| 13:41:24 | amiconn | The PC would have to do it. |
| 13:41:39 | lear | Anyone on (K)Ubuntu/Debian? |
| 13:41:41 | mirak | actually it would stop all hd probablt |
| 13:41:46 | mirak | lear: me |
| 13:41:48 | ashridah | lear: yes |
| 13:41:55 | amiconn | It seems that the initial behaviour (if the PC doesn't control spindown) depends on the USB bridge configuration ROM |
| 13:42:04 | lear | Trying to build cross-compiler under Linux, but without much success. Keep getting ICE:s in one file... |
| 13:42:19 | amiconn | My archoses do spin down automatically when connected but not accessed. The H140 doesn't |
| 13:42:24 | ashridah | lear: which version of gcc? |
| 13:42:25 | gtkspert | im trying to build a cross compiler |
| 13:42:37 | lear | So I thought the gcc 4.0.2 prerelease wasn't a good use, so I (tried) to use 3.4.5, but got the same error... |
| 13:42:39 | gtkspert | i've tried four times and havent secceeded |
| 13:42:50 | ashridah | lear: odd. |
| 13:42:57 | ashridah | i've built it fine. recently too. |
| 13:43:07 | ashridah | overclocking? |
| 13:43:13 | lear | I mean, setting CC=gcc-3.4 before running configure/make should do it, no? |
| 13:43:22 | lear | And no overclocking... |
| 13:43:25 | ashridah | lear: have you tried using another compiler to compile GCC's bootstrap? |
| 13:44:27 | lear | no, as I don't know how to do that... |
| 13:44:30 | ashridah | hmm. not sure about the CC= bit, gcc may have quirks |
| 13:46:01 | ashridah | lear: which options are you passing to ./configure? |
| 13:46:08 | perplexity | I had problems using the CC=gcc-blah.. here's how I got around it.. |
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| 13:46:14 | lear | Hrm, checked the makefile generated, says CC=gcc... |
| 13:46:24 | ashridah | yeah |
| 13:46:25 | ashridah | well |
| 13:46:27 | perplexity | bklaptop:~>ls bin/ |
| 13:46:27 | perplexity | cpp gcc gcov i486-linux-gnu-g++ |
| 13:46:27 | perplexity | g++ gccbug i486-linux-gnu-cpp i486-linux-gnu-gcc |
| 13:46:36 | ashridah | gcc builds itself with its own compiler for compatability |
| 13:46:43 | perplexity | these are all symlinks to the gcc-3.3 equivalents.. placed in ~/bin |
| 13:46:45 | perplexity | ls-la |
| 13:46:48 | perplexity | oops |
| 13:47:02 | perplexity | lrwxrwxrwx 1 brad brad 16 2006-01-03 21:49 gcc -> /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 |
| 13:47:14 | ashridah | yeah, i'd try overriding the path with symlinks to gcc-3.4's stuff, i guess |
| 13:47:21 | perplexity | I just set PATH=~/bin:$PATH before I compile and I auto get the correct version :) |
| 13:47:23 | lear | Assuming ~/bin is early enough in the path, that should work, yes. Not very elegant... |
| 13:47:29 | ashridah | it's lowbrow, but i don't know enough about gcc's build to help |
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| 13:48:01 | perplexity | it does the job anyway |
| 13:48:03 | ashridah | i'm pretty sure i built 3.4.5 with 4.0.2-5/6 from debian last week |
| 13:48:52 | perplexity | I'm using 3.4.4 but I built it before I upgraded this machine from stable to testing, so it was built with gcc-3.3 in any case |
| 13:48:54 | lear | Do I need more than cpp and gcc? |
| 13:49:29 | ashridah | i'd do as much as perplexity has |
| 13:49:40 | perplexity | have no idea.. probably not. Which version of binutils are you using ? |
| 13:49:49 | lear | 2.16.1 I think. |
| 13:49:49 | ashridah | mixing versions would probably confuse it |
| 13:50:33 | perplexity | I have lots of ugly hacks/workarounds for little quirks.. I need gcc-3.3 to build qemu properly, but I cant make any CC overrides work properly, so I just bodge it up that way |
| 13:50:33 | amiconn | Think I'll really switch to H340 as my main unit. These buttons are a lot better than the side buttons and the slippy joystick of the H140 |
| 13:51:18 | lear | Really? I read a review of the H340 quite a while ago, and they weren't too fond of the buttons, IIRC. |
| 13:51:26 | amiconn | I like them |
| 13:51:46 | perplexity | I like mine, but then I have never been near a h1x0 |
| 13:51:53 | lear | Maybe it was more the placement, with them being too close or something. |
| 13:52:19 | lear | But moving to the side buttons is a bit inconvenient, yes... |
| 13:53:24 | amiconn | Yes, especially if you use the unit like I do often: placed on a shelf connected to the stereo, or placed in the car and connected to the car stereo |
| 13:56:56 | webguest55 | reading the charging spec sheat, the charge IC controller has a method of recharging the battery if the voltage falls below the " Battery Recycle Threshhold". nice |
| 13:57:14 | Membrillo | is there an option in RB at the moment to switch the left and right audio channels? |
| 13:57:37 | amiconn | Is there a (posix or otherwise) standardised function name for filling a memory area with a 16 bit pattern? |
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| 14:00:42 | webguest55 | a cordless bluetooth remote for a DAP would be nice, (just thinking aloud) |
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| 14:09:23 | Membrillo | so i guess not with the channel switching |
| 14:09:54 | amiconn | Hmm. Is it correct that fwpatcher increses the size of H300.hex that much? |
| 14:10:07 | amiconn | 1.30EU was ~2.5MB before, and is 4MB now |
| 14:10:20 | linuxstb | amiconn: Not that I know of. Maybe use memset16? |
| 14:10:26 | ashridah | amiconn: i'd say so, given that the .hex isn't a raw memory dump. |
| 14:10:55 | Membrillo | that size increase is normal |
| 14:11:15 | ashridah | then again. |
| 14:11:34 | amiconn | The md5sum matches |
| 14:12:35 | lear | Well, redirecting gcc and cpp wasn't enough, it seems... |
| 14:12:48 | lear | Maybe me being on an AMD64 system is the reason... |
| 14:14:17 | amiconn | lear: Don't scare me... :-/ |
| 14:15:26 | mirak | I am long time user of ubuntu, and I tried 64bits but siwitched back to 32 |
| 14:15:45 | mirak | actually that's less trouble to be in 32bits, and you gain almost nothing in 64bits |
| 14:15:49 | mirak | at least for now |
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| 14:15:54 | lear | amiconn: why, planning to buy one? |
| 14:16:06 | amiconn | I'll have one soon |
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| 14:16:32 | mirak | if you still use a 32bits linux it change nothing |
| 14:16:36 | lear | mirak: hm... maybe, but it seems silly to not use the features if you have them. :) |
| 14:16:52 | mirak | lear: not when they are not mature enough |
| 14:17:14 | mirak | some apps are slower on 64bits even because there is no asm optimisations yet for i |
| 14:17:15 | mirak | it |
| 14:17:24 | lear | after being around for several years, most should be mature enough, one would hope... |
| 14:17:55 | mirak | lear: well yes, but not many people use desktop applications on itanium :) |
| 14:19:09 | lear | but amd64 systems have been around for quite a while... |
| 14:19:46 | mirak | yes |
| 14:19:52 | mirak | lear: do you use K8 kernel ? |
| 14:20:03 | lear | yep. |
| 14:20:26 | mirak | problem is still the same than with i386 i686 etcetera |
| 14:20:41 | mirak | the binaries 64 bits are not compiled for K8 |
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| 14:20:59 | mirak | but generic 64 bit I think |
| 14:21:17 | lear | mirak: ati or nvidia for graphics, btw? |
| 14:21:20 | Febs | This trend at Mistic River to have a separate branch of Rockbox is frustrating. |
| 14:21:33 | mirak | lear: I bought a nvidia in august |
| 14:21:47 | mirak | Febs: what is it ? |
| 14:22:03 | lear | because I have an ati, and the screen updates are really slow, even with the ATI binary driver. :/ |
| 14:22:10 | mirak | lear: I think gentoo still have the advantage |
| 14:22:31 | mirak | lear: are you sure the module is loaded ? |
| 14:22:33 | lear | too painful to install, I'd say. |
| 14:22:35 | Febs | Some people are creating patches, plug-ins, etc. and maintainin them on their own sites without adding them to the patch tracker. |
| 14:22:44 | mirak | lear: yeah I don't like it as well |
| 14:22:45 | lear | Yep, says so in the log quite clearly... |
| 14:23:28 | lear | I even tried Gentoo once, but even after that lenghty install, there were lots of things left to fix, e.g., to get the mouse wheel to work. It was a while ago though... |
| 14:23:35 | mirak | lear: on debian/ubuntu there is apt-build wich is supposed to be able to what portage do and optimise packages, but actually it's broken since seveal months |
| 14:23:38 | mirak | several |
| 14:23:56 | mirak | to do |
| 14:24:36 | mirak | lear: what you can do though is rebuild some critical packages with optimisations you need |
| 14:25:01 | mirak | that's what they do for encoders, the kernel, etecettera |
| 14:25:14 | lear | sounds like overkill, and unlikely to fix the video... |
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| 14:29:13 | linuxstb | Febs: I agree with what you're saying about the "mistic river" branch. But it needs a H3x0 owner with CVS write access to start committing the patches. |
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| 14:33:31 | Febs | linuxstb, they can't commit the patches if the authors don't upload them to the patch tracker. |
| 14:37:47 | lostlogic | Who maintains the H300 optimized stuff? Do they know what they're doing? It has a rather risky feel to me. |
| 14:40:08 | Febs | A MR user called Needleboy. |
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| 14:42:12 | HypnoticMonkey | Im just here to say to devs........ |
| 14:42:20 | HypnoticMonkey | ENLIGHTEN THOSE IPOD USERS! |
| 14:42:54 | HypnoticMonkey | seriously, the ipod port offers rockbox the chance for proper recognition for all your talents, gan for it.. |
| 14:43:01 | mirak | anyone uses itunes on mac ? |
| 14:43:17 | mirak | I try to load a 50G library but it seems to stalls |
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| 14:55:12 | linuxstb | Febs: Patches don't _have_ to be in the patch tracker for someone to commit them to CVS. |
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| 15:02:53 | lostlogic | can anyone tell me the name of the charging chip on the archos recorder v1 (that has charge control)? |
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| 15:03:00 | Acksaw | yo |
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| 15:19:10 | sanitarium__ | is MR down for anyone else? |
| 15:21:27 | Febs | Nope. Works for me. |
| 15:21:57 | sanitarium__ | ok, works now for me |
| 15:22:04 | sanitarium__ | I was getting the database error thing |
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| 15:47:46 | lostlogic | what kind of transfer speeds to people see when writing to the 1.8in hdd based players? |
| 15:48:21 | lostlogic | (I'm not seeing over 10mbit, and wondered if that's a problem with my USB driver, my USB storage driver, or a limitation of the drive) |
| 15:49:40 | thegeek | I usually get towards 5000/6000 kbit |
| 15:49:58 | lostlogic | what OS? |
| 15:50:31 | lostlogic | (ie. I thought 10000kbit was slow, I feel for you) |
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| 16:11:15 | thegeek | lostlogic |
| 16:11:30 | thegeek | 5000/6000 kbit is not exactly bad |
| 16:11:35 | thegeek | woha |
| 16:11:36 | thegeek | crap |
| 16:11:49 | thegeek | kbyte |
| 16:11:53 | thegeek | I mean kbyte |
| 16:12:05 | thegeek | damn, how could I mix that up;) |
| 16:12:15 | thegeek | now I feel stupid;) |
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| 16:14:21 | thegeek | anyway, it does not matter if I use my serverbox(gentoo) or windows |
| 16:14:47 | thegeek | though I use "total copy" for windows |
| 16:15:02 | thegeek | since it seems like explorer's copy function totally sucks |
| 16:15:05 | thegeek | that goes for all copying |
| 16:15:09 | thegeek | over networks too |
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| 16:40:58 | lostlogic | thegeek: hmph −− so you get 4 or 5 times the speed I do... wtf. |
| 16:41:04 | lostlogic | *scowls at his USB* |
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| 16:49:54 | thegeek | ;) |
| 16:50:03 | thegeek | you sure you have usb2 ? |
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| 17:06:36 | lostlogic | thegeek: yes, it reads at 20MB/s −− I have a USB2 card and am using EHCI-HCD. |
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| 17:08:46 | thegeek | hmm |
| 17:08:49 | thegeek | wierd indeed |
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| 18:50:02 | lostlogic | why... why... why... is there CHARGER_PLUGGED as a charger_input_state and a separate "charger_inserted()" method? |
| 18:50:55 | lostlogic | nevermind. |
| 18:50:58 | lostlogic | it's just used weirdly. |
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| 19:13:22 | lostlogic | So there I find myself... looking at the board images Iput on the wiki long ago trying to figure something out... completely ignoring the fact that I have an H340 board SITTING IN FRONT OF ME |
| 19:15:42 | thegeek | hah! |
| 19:15:46 | thegeek | reality is for pussies |
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| 19:22:00 | Jungti1234 | heh |
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| 19:29:13 | lostlogic | blah, anyone want to tell me if the PCF50606's interrupt line is connect anywhere on the coldfire in the H340? |
| 19:32:00 | preglow | well, it should be |
| 19:35:14 | lostlogic | I don't see it's interrupt defined in system.c am I looking the wrong place, or is it not defined and I need to find it or something sad like that? |
| 19:35:16 | perplexity | can you unmask all the ints and do something to the PCF that should fire an interrupt? |
| 19:35:29 | lostlogic | perplexity: hmm, yes, I could |
| 19:35:40 | lostlogic | charger insertion is an interrupt event. |
| 19:36:18 | perplexity | just remember to build some kind of default int handler for every unmasked vector or it could get ugly :) |
| 19:36:52 | lostlogic | it seems like the system defaults to having everything unmasked... I think I'm not understanding the interrupt code yet. |
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| 19:44:02 | Jungti1234 | good night |
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| 20:39:34 | linuxstb | preglow: I managed to install the ipod bootloader from Windows this afternoon. |
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| 20:47:12 | preglow | linuxstb: w00t! how? |
| 20:47:21 | preglow | linuxstb: we're not speaking cygwin? |
| 20:49:01 | linuxstb | Yes, in cygwin, but the principle applies to standard win32 as well. |
| 20:49:30 | preglow | oh? |
| 20:49:31 | preglow | explain |
| 20:49:37 | linuxstb | The basic trick is just to write to the disk starting from the first sector - e.g. dd if=rockboot.bin of=/dev/sdc |
| 20:49:59 | preglow | and use offsets? |
| 20:50:07 | preglow | how do you do that in winapi? |
| 20:50:27 | linuxstb | So you need to read the first (in my case) 63 sectors from /dev/sdc first, and then prepend those to the boot partition data, and write the whole thing back to the start of the disk. |
| 20:51:05 | linuxstb | There is a utility called rawdisk which I have the source to that reads/writes to a disk in winapi |
| 20:51:14 | preglow | url? |
| 20:51:24 | preglow | we'll probably want to make a utility |
| 20:51:32 | linuxstb | And it's GPL'd |
| 20:52:08 | linuxstb | I'll find the url... |
| 20:53:06 | linuxstb | Just google for rawdisk - it's the first hit |
| 20:53:13 | preglow | did christi release the source code for that tool of hers, btw? |
| 20:53:18 | linuxstb | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/73174/RawDisk/ |
| 20:53:31 | linuxstb | No, she wanted to clean it up some more first. |
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| 20:54:43 | preglow | think i'll just make it a command line tool first, then |
| 20:54:53 | preglow | gui coding in winapi is not much fun |
| 20:55:02 | preglow | at least not after i found out how easy it is in gtkmm |
| 20:55:14 | linuxstb | I've already written a utility that does it in Cygwin. You could adapt it to the win32 api. |
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| 20:55:50 | preglow | i could |
| 20:55:58 | preglow | hmm, i keep forgetting i'm not in windows |
| 20:56:02 | linuxstb | hehe |
| 20:56:19 | preglow | i'm really comfortable in gnome now |
| 20:58:06 | linuxstb | Talking about the bootloader, do you think the hold button would be easier to detect? |
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| 21:00:17 | preglow | easier than what? |
| 21:00:28 | linuxstb | The other keys |
| 21:00:43 | preglow | i don't know, i detect it through the same interface as the other keys right now |
| 21:01:43 | preglow | that is, i don't, but i assume i can, i remember it generated interrupts |
| 21:02:12 | preglow | this is going to be a breeze, btw, it's all about the DeviceIoControl() function |
| 21:02:28 | preglow | do we have any way of making sure we're writing to an ipod? |
| 21:02:36 | preglow | i guess we could search for the apple signature in the bootsector |
| 21:03:47 | linuxstb | Yes, checking the apple signature sounds sensible. |
| 21:04:36 | preglow | at least it's a nice safety check |
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| 21:04:49 | preglow | we could always include a "force write" option for those who've replaced their bootsector with something custom |
| 21:05:15 | linuxstb | But that's probably the same check the apple bootloader does - so you can't replace it. |
| 21:05:54 | linuxstb | Anyway, if you're interested in my utility: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/diskdump.tgz |
| 21:06:36 | linuxstb | The useful code (stolen from Rockbox) is the function to read the paritition table - so you know which sector the boot partition starts at. |
| 21:07:04 | preglow | i'll take a look at it when i'm in windows again |
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| 21:11:13 | NicoFR | i really don't get it... |
| 21:11:34 | preglow | get what |
| 21:11:42 | NicoFR | i can't build rockbox anymore as soon as i ask to compile rockcalendar and/or brickmania |
| 21:12:03 | NicoFR | the build just seems to take forever |
| 21:12:13 | NicoFR | and i have 100% CPU usage |
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| 21:12:34 | NicoFR | as soon as i remove both the plugins from SOURCES it works fine again |
| 21:13:51 | NicoFR | am i the only one having the problem ? |
| 21:14:36 | preglow | afaik |
| 21:15:30 | * | preglow throws his eq code on the floor and runs away |
| 21:16:26 | linuxstb | I've compiled brickmania without problems. |
| 21:17:28 | NicoFR | any ideas about where this could come from ? |
| 21:18:21 | linuxstb | No. The compilation shouldn't just freeze.o |
| 21:18:27 | * | lostlogic throws PCF50606 specs on the floor and runs after preglow |
| 21:19:11 | linuxstb | Try typing "make V=1" |
| 21:19:24 | linuxstb | This will make the build process more verbose |
| 21:20:31 | NicoFR | hmmm interesting |
| 21:20:33 | NicoFR | lots of text |
| 21:20:37 | NicoFR | ill dump it to a file |
| 21:21:46 | NicoFR | funny... it didn't show the text again and then it now builds fine with just "make" |
| 21:22:12 | NicoFR | (i only added brickmania so now i'll try with rockcalendar) |
| 21:24:41 | lostlogic | gah −− I need Linus for this. |
| 21:27:13 | NicoFR | well this time it's gone into an infinite loop |
| 21:28:29 | NicoFR | can i paste the repeating pattern ? |
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| 21:30:53 | linuxstb | Try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 21:31:26 | NicoFR | http://pastebin.com/505786 |
| 21:31:36 | NicoFR | this pattern keeps on repeating |
| 21:32:46 | preglow | anyone had a shot at fixing the libmad related problem that got reported yesterday? |
| 21:35:50 | linuxstb | NicoFR: Sorry, I've got no suggestions. |
| 21:36:21 | linuxstb | preglow: Is that the MAD_GUARD_BUFFER thing? |
| 21:36:31 | NicoFR | well your tip was helpful... now i can compile brickmania and i get mor info :) |
| 21:37:58 | preglow | linuxstb: aye |
| 21:41:15 | NicoFR | well i really can't rockcalendar to compile... |
| 21:41:23 | NicoFR | still this infinite loop |
| 21:41:41 | NicoFR | and i can't get brickmania to break the build anymore :-p |
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| 22:32:14 | lostlogic | w00t. progress is. |
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| 22:32:59 | muesli__ | lostlogic hum? |
| 22:33:12 | lostlogic | I'm working on power management in the h3x0 and I've finally made progress. |
| 22:33:21 | muesli__ | :D |
| 22:33:24 | Midgey34 | usb charging? |
| 22:33:46 | LinusN | lostlogic: nice |
| 22:33:52 | muesli__ | LinusN http://daniel.haxx.se/m3-sida1.jpg all we need is a translator ;-) |
| 22:34:05 | lostlogic | LinusN: YAY you're here! Having trouble with trying to use the secondary interrupt controller in H3x0... where would I catch an interrupt from the pcf50606? |
| 22:34:08 | LinusN | old stuff |
| 22:34:40 | LinusN | not sure, i haven't traced the irq pin |
| 22:35:09 | lostlogic | ahhh, ok... not strictly necessary, but interrupt driven charge control would be preferable to me than polling based. will poll for now. |
| 22:35:56 | LinusN | remind me to trace those pins when i have more time |
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| 22:36:27 | LinusN | afk |
| 22:36:33 | perplexity | that would reqire us actually _knowing_ when you have more time :) |
| 22:36:35 | lostlogic | I will... unless I get a multimeter and probes to trace it myself on my fried H340 board. |
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| 22:51:06 | Owner_ | hi |
| 22:51:30 | Owner_ | anybody here? |
| 22:51:36 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:51:39 | Owner_ | hi |
| 22:51:51 | Owner_ | how do i make a theme file? |
| 22:51:58 | Owner_ | so i can use other wps |
| 22:52:18 | Bagder | you don't need to make "a theme file" for that |
| 22:52:26 | Bagder | just create a new wps file and "play" it |
| 22:52:50 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 22:53:38 | Owner_ | ok thanks |
| 22:53:40 | Owner_ | cya |
| 22:53:51 | Owner_ | hey can i play gbc games |
| 22:53:55 | Owner_ | and use the save option? |
| 22:54:00 | Owner_ | will it save my game? |
| 22:54:10 | Owner_ | like a gameboy? |
| 22:54:12 | Bagder | you considered reading the FAQ? |
| 22:54:33 | Owner_ | lol |
| 22:54:36 | Owner_ | not yet |
| 22:54:52 | Owner_ | well can i save?.. |
| 22:55:14 | Owner_ | :\ |
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| 22:58:25 | preglow | i think feel some rockbox time coming up |
| 22:58:31 | preglow | so, what to work on, eq or ipod |
| 22:58:48 | Bagder | do the funnier thing |
| 22:58:51 | * | RotAtoR whispers muuuuusepack |
| 22:58:59 | RotAtoR | ;) |
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| 23:00:07 | thegeek | eq |
| 23:00:08 | thegeek | hehe |
| 23:01:15 | lostlogic | preglow: you should tell me why the this chip constantly tells me a charger is connected on one register, but not on another register. |
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| 23:01:29 | * | linuxstb prods preglow towards the fiq and ipod audio driver... |
| 23:03:26 | * | amiconn asks preglow about the status of speex ;) |
| 23:03:56 | amiconn | I'm thinking about a feature for H3x0 |
| 23:04:29 | amiconn | Like backlight fading for the H1x0, we could have a 'half-bright phase' before switching off the display completely |
| 23:04:55 | amiconn | My mobile phone does this, and it's pleasant |
| 23:07:42 | preglow | amiconn: i've got a half-ported speex lying around here, but it turned out to be a bit harder than i'd thought |
| 23:07:51 | preglow | perhaps speex is more fixed point friendly these days |
| 23:07:53 | * | preglow checks out |
| 23:08:59 | preglow | why, indeed, the newest release does indeed list fixed point fixes |
| 23:09:09 | amiconn | I found another thing: the progress bar in the wps doesn't adapt to the font height (unlike the peakmeter) |
| 23:09:32 | amiconn | Should be a quick fix; I'll look at that (after the plugin loader) |
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| 23:35:55 | Rob2222_ | uhm |
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| 23:36:17 | Rob2222_ | how can i make that no BOOTLOADER USB MODE comes when connecting USB? |
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| 23:37:00 | muesli__ | amiconn backlightfading for h3xx would rule! |
| 23:37:18 | amiconn | Soft fading isn't possible, unfortunately |
| 23:37:50 | amiconn | The possible steps for backlight brightness are too coarse, and we have no direct LED control |
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| 23:38:44 | muesli__ | :-/ i loved that h1xx fading |
| 23:38:54 | Rob2222_ | Help. When I set my H300 in my docking station it immidiately fires up "BOOTLOADER USB MODE" |
| 23:39:03 | Rob2222_ | But I only want to charge. |
| 23:39:10 | Rob2222_ | Is there a key combo? |
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| 23:40:08 | LinusN | Rob2222_: hold REC when you insert it |
| 23:40:26 | Rob2222_ | Ah, Linus is on. |
| 23:40:37 | Rob2222_ | I almost was sure there IS a button. :) |
| 23:41:09 | Rob2222_ | ah, iriver FW |
| 23:41:11 | Rob2222_ | kk |
| 23:41:48 | Rob2222_ | :) |
| 23:43:58 | lostlogic | does snprintf in rockbox not have a %f conversoin? |
| 23:44:16 | amiconn | no, it doesn't |
| 23:44:36 | lostlogic | at least I'm not insane. thanks |
| 23:45:58 | preglow | haha |
| 23:46:01 | preglow | why're you using floats? :P |
| 23:46:13 | linuxstb | Hello float police. |
| 23:46:22 | lostlogic | just to display battery voltage pretty in my new PCF display thingus. |
| 23:53:49 | lostlogic | LinusN: sorta confirmation that the H3x0 does run off of the charger when it's connected: I connected it, it reached full charge, the charger was set to idle (by my neat new code), and the battery voltage held exactly where it had been. after a while, I got bored, and removed the charger plug and the voltage immediately dropped off. |
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| 23:56:16 | amiconn | Today I found a strange bug on recorder v1 (during repeated occurence of the low-bat OFF event bug) |
| 23:57:10 | amiconn | Obviously it might happen that if a track is stopped a split second before it really ends, the resume info doesn't advance to the next track, but the time pointer does |
| 23:58:13 | amiconn | So, the wps e.g. displayed Track 6, position 5:20 (of 5:00), but actual playback was Track 7, position 0:20 |
| 23:58:59 | amiconn | This then didn't change no matter how often I stopped and resumed. An fresh start of playback then did |
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