| 00:00:08 | XavierGr | strange! |
| 00:00:15 | steveb | annoying :( |
| 00:00:42 | * | amiconn wonders whether it makes sense to replace the current STYLE_INVERT implementation (e.g. the inverse bar cursor) which uses DRMODE_COMPLEMENT by correct inversevid i.e. DRMODE_INVERSEVID |
| 00:00:42 | steveb | so... anyone got a working H300 boot loader hex? |
| 00:00:42 | XavierGr | Indeed owning an H300 without rockbox.... pitty ;( |
| 00:00:57 | NightCat | steveb: I |
| 00:01:07 | steveb | NightCat: care to email it? |
| 00:01:12 | NightCat | 1.29 patched and working fine :) |
| 00:01:17 | amiconn | With the current implementation, then inverse bar is white text on dark brown (standard black text on rockbox blue) |
| 00:01:26 | NightCat | steveb: I can if you wish :) |
| 00:01:28 | lostlogic | steveb: sounds like the firmware checksum failing is my guess |
| 00:01:47 | amiconn | With DRMODE_INVERSEVID the bar would be rockbox blue text on black |
| 00:01:48 | steveb | yeh |
| 00:01:57 | steveb | strange though... |
| 00:01:59 | lostlogic | you are using firmware patcher? |
| 00:02:06 | preglow | but bajh |
| 00:02:06 | steveb | yep |
| 00:02:10 | preglow | think i gotta call it a night |
| 00:02:36 | XavierGr | night preglow |
| 00:02:48 | preglow | gnight |
| 00:02:48 | Midgey34 | amiconn: I think some users have requested that, esp the rockcolor patch users |
| 00:03:03 | amiconn | besides, inversevid would be faster than complement on all platforms, no readback from the framebuffer |
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| 00:04:14 | steveb | i dont suppose anyone has any good linux wma -> ogg converters? |
| 00:04:19 | steveb | or knows of one? |
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| 00:06:12 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd, preglow: Can anyone quickly test an ipod patch for me? |
| 00:06:41 | linuxstb | I've added USB detection in the bootloader, but the apple firmware refuses to load. I haven't upgraded to gcc4 yet, so want to make sure it's not that problem again. |
| 00:06:42 | lostlogic | steveb: gah, transcoding is the devil. |
| 00:06:44 | Rob2222 | LinusN: The VM Pin is really wired to Vcc? (so only 4,1V?) |
| 00:06:54 | linuxstb | Patch here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb.diff |
| 00:07:02 | steveb | lostlogic: i know. my bro gave me a load of songs. all in wma. |
| 00:07:18 | steveb | he ripped them using windows media player and then gave the cd's back to his friend |
| 00:07:23 | steveb | only at 128kbps as well |
| 00:07:26 | Rob2222 | linuxstb: i have a ipod video an GCC3.4.5. can i help? |
| 00:07:28 | steveb | the quality is a bit crap |
| 00:07:58 | lostlogic | ouch. not sure what I'd do with that situ. |
| 00:08:37 | linuxstb | Rob2222: Not really. I'm in the process of compiling gcc 4 now, so I can test it myself soon. |
| 00:09:09 | XavierGr | ha linuxstb: I just saw a goto. All programmers I've dont like goto, but I think it's pretty usefull sometimes. |
| 00:09:20 | XavierGr | ^met |
| 00:10:15 | lostlogic | XavierGr: there are quite a few gotos in embedded applications like rockbox where performance counts. |
| 00:10:17 | linuxstb | XavierGr: That's the first goto I've ever used in a C program.... I may remove it before committing. |
| 00:10:46 | Rob2222 | can i merge a diff file with patch? |
| 00:11:02 | LinusN | Rob2222: no, check what i said around 23:16 |
| 00:11:11 | Rob2222 | linuxstb: it doesnt work with gcc345? |
| 00:11:15 | amiconn | Sometimes goto can be useful (there are some of them in rockbox code; I added one or two), but it should be used very carefully |
| 00:11:28 | XavierGr | linuxstb: Haha, well I like gotos for their simplicity. |
| 00:11:32 | Rob2222 | LinusN: I read that, only wanted to make sure |
| 00:11:51 | Rob2222 | OK, so you checked that twice. |
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| 00:13:35 | linuxstb | Rob2222: I'm trying to detect the precense of USB in the ipod bootloader, but if I do it, then the apple firmware refuses to load. I want to check if it's a gcc 3.4.x bug, or if the apple firmware just doesn't like the usb being initialised - which is possible. |
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| 00:14:19 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
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| 00:16:35 | Rob2222 | when setting up a crosscompiler with gcc 4 next to my running gcc345, i need to recompile binutils, too. right? |
| 00:16:56 | LinusN | damn, i can't find where vid1 is connected... |
| 00:17:22 | Rob2222 | maybe its driven by another chip? |
| 00:18:28 | Rob2222 | hadnt had the PCF outputs, too? |
| 00:18:51 | lostlogic | could be the USB controller chip by phillips drives that? |
| 00:19:44 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Have you checked the PCF GPOs? |
| 00:20:35 | NightCat | Somebody help? |
| 00:20:53 | NightCat | I have some errors... I mean a lot of errors in plugin.c file... |
| 00:21:07 | NightCat | When building RB... |
| 00:21:17 | NightCat | Could someone explain it? |
| 00:21:29 | NightCat | (I update cvs just now...) |
| 00:21:53 | lostlogic | NightCat: do you have conflicts? |
| 00:22:00 | LinusN | Rob2222: i have checked nearly every damn component on the pcb |
| 00:22:12 | lostlogic | :( |
| 00:22:30 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 00:22:37 | steveb | what does result: -5 mean? |
| 00:22:41 | LinusN | i'll find it eventually |
| 00:22:41 | NightCat | lostlogic: When I run make in my build folder there are a lot of errors in plugin.c |
| 00:22:53 | lostlogic | NightCat: when you did the cvs update were there conflicts? |
| 00:22:59 | LinusN | steveb: in the boot loader? |
| 00:23:02 | steveb | yep |
| 00:23:11 | NightCat | lostlogic: Oh, no, I think... |
| 00:23:11 | steveb | it says that for about 1/10 of a sec before turning off |
| 00:23:24 | petur | NightCat: did you do ../tools/configure again? |
| 00:23:25 | LinusN | steveb: checksum fault |
| 00:23:32 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Wire 220V on the Pin and continue tapping with the fingers on PCB until you find it. :D |
| 00:23:34 | NightCat | petur No |
| 00:23:34 | steveb | LinusN: checksum on what? |
| 00:23:39 | steveb | the firmware? |
| 00:23:43 | LinusN | steveb: the rockbox.iriver file |
| 00:23:47 | steveb | ah ok |
| 00:23:52 | steveb | that is fixable. |
| 00:23:52 | LinusN | what model number does it say? |
| 00:24:00 | steveb | H300 |
| 00:24:08 | petur | NightCat: try it, then do make clean, then make |
| 00:24:08 | NightCat | steveb: rockbox.iriver is bad! |
| 00:24:19 | NightCat | petur: Ok |
| 00:24:32 | LinusN | Rob2222: wonderful idea |
| 00:24:42 | petur | lol |
| 00:24:54 | Rob2222 | sorry. only tried to get you a little more happy ^^ |
| 00:25:00 | LinusN | hehe |
| 00:25:21 | NightCat | Rob2222: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) |
| 00:25:29 | Rob2222 | I would search too, if i had a 2nd H300 |
| 00:26:01 | XavierGr | Well I just ordered mine so you will have to wait one week or so... :) |
| 00:27:40 | Rob2222 | but it should work... ^^ |
| 00:27:53 | lostlogic | I'm gonna have to go out and get a multimeter on my way home so I can play. |
| 00:28:20 | Rob2222 | i would be feared to damage the pcb with the MM pins. |
| 00:28:31 | Rob2222 | on my main unit |
| 00:29:45 | lostlogic | yeah, I have my broken one to play with :-D |
| 00:30:12 | steveb | wooooooooo hooooooo |
| 00:30:15 | steveb | it works |
| 00:30:17 | steveb | love you all |
| 00:30:18 | Rob2222 | didnt you RMAed it? |
| 00:30:30 | Rob2222 | steveb: installed RB fist time? |
| 00:30:52 | steveb | Rob2222: finally got it working for the first time yeh |
| 00:31:03 | Rob2222 | huh. now you have RB. |
| 00:31:03 | lostlogic | Rob2222: no, was out of warranty, and an international model, and I broke it my own damn self so that would be unethical. |
| 00:31:10 | steveb | now how do you use this thing? |
| 00:31:14 | Rob2222 | should be a 2nd birthday in future :) |
| 00:31:21 | Rob2222 | at least it was for me |
| 00:31:30 | Rob2222 | never an DAP without rockbox again |
| 00:31:33 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 00:31:40 | Rob2222 | you could start with ... |
| 00:31:41 | LinusN | steveb: what was the problem? |
| 00:31:43 | Rob2222 | playing an MP3 |
| 00:31:57 | Rob2222 | or playing a gameboy color game ;) |
| 00:31:59 | steveb | LinusN: dunno. screwed up rockbox.iriver i guess. i just copied over again |
| 00:32:01 | steveb | and it worked |
| 00:32:14 | Rob2222 | disconnected usb to fast, heh? ;) |
| 00:32:27 | steveb | i think it was just the shitty pc's at uni before |
| 00:32:38 | steveb | they dont even have usb2 |
| 00:32:45 | steveb | it took forever to copy them! |
| 00:33:04 | LinusN | steveb: what about the failed firmware update? |
| 00:33:14 | steveb | LinusN: probly the same reason |
| 00:33:25 | steveb | crappy pc's meant that the firmware didnt patch properly |
| 00:33:26 | amiconn | Speaking about rockboy - when I tried last time, I noticed that (now that sound is enabled) rockboy emits an unpleasant noise at startup |
| 00:33:30 | amiconn | Is that known? |
| 00:33:35 | steveb | i got a working one from NightCat |
| 00:35:09 | steveb | oh now come on. putting an option saying "Debug (Kepp out!)" is just ASKING for me to go snooping :( |
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| 00:36:09 | steveb | what does the battery test plugin do? |
| 00:36:33 | NightCat | It does nothing on H300 I think... |
| 00:37:19 | XavierGr | It cycles data from the buffer and the disk I think and then tells you various about your battery, but I am not sure. If you want to test your battery wait for the battery_bench plugin. |
| 00:37:24 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginBatteryTest |
| 00:37:29 | Rob2222 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginBatteryTest |
| 00:37:32 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 00:37:33 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 00:37:59 | Rob2222 | i should bench my battery tonight |
| 00:38:05 | amiconn | There is an echo in here ;) |
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| 00:38:18 | Rob2222 | tomorrow is coming my 2200mAh battery hopefully |
| 00:38:28 | Rob2222 | hehe amicon |
| 00:38:34 | XavierGr | amiconn: But this plugin is only useful for archos devices, right? |
| 00:38:50 | Rob2222 | at least i didnt know how to use that plugin |
| 00:38:51 | amiconn | Well, it's not really useful on archos either |
| 00:39:16 | Rob2222 | should be useful to compare 2 batteries, right? |
| 00:39:27 | XavierGr | You should test my plugin on your ondio one day to see if it will work on a flash player. |
| 00:39:53 | amiconn | It simulates usage in a rather crude way, hardly resembling actual use. |
| 00:40:01 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: youre worling on battery_bench? |
| 00:40:11 | amiconn | battery_bench should be the replacement |
| 00:40:23 | amiconn | XavierGr: You said you're working on it atm? |
| 00:40:23 | Rob2222 | whats the status of battery_bench? |
| 00:40:29 | XavierGr | yup it is ready for some time now. Right now I add some minor things up. |
| 00:40:50 | amiconn | Sorry, I forgot about it |
| 00:41:06 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: could you send me the actual plugin for an iriver? |
| 00:41:06 | XavierGr | It is quite finished, we were talking with Bger for some minor things, that I am working on right now. |
| 00:41:09 | amiconn | I should compile & test on archos when you're done with your fixes |
| 00:41:27 | amiconn | (both Ondio and disk-based) |
| 00:41:32 | Rob2222 | would like to make a bench tonight, if tomorrow comes my new battery |
| 00:41:37 | XavierGr | Unfortunately current patch will not compile due to changes on CVS, but I will have a new patch in half an hour. |
| 00:41:58 | XavierGr | Rob give me 20 minutes. |
| 00:42:01 | Rob2222 | huh, you didnt need to make it now only for me! |
| 00:42:40 | amiconn | Running benchmarks isn't a problem here, with 6 units I can always make sure to have a usable one while benchmarks are running |
| 00:43:27 | Rob2222 | is battery_bench running in foreground? |
| 00:43:35 | XavierGr | Rob one way or the other I will compile it to test it for me so... |
| 00:43:39 | Rob2222 | lol amiconn |
| 00:43:57 | XavierGr | yep, you can use your player fully as the plugin runs, though make sure to load another plugin. |
| 00:44:03 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: ok, would be nice. |
| 00:44:07 | XavierGr | ^not |
| 00:44:15 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
| 00:44:22 | Rob2222 | is there a way to stop it gain? |
| 00:44:23 | XavierGr | not to load another plugin I meant. |
| 00:44:31 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
| 00:44:39 | Rob2222 | so loading another plugin will stop ip |
| 00:44:42 | Rob2222 | it |
| 00:44:43 | Rob2222 | = |
| 00:44:44 | Rob2222 | ? |
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| 00:44:50 | XavierGr | if you load another plugin it will stop, or shutdown player. |
| 00:44:59 | Rob2222 | damn, my keyboard doesnt write what i think |
| 00:45:02 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 00:45:06 | Rob2222 | sounds really nice! |
| 00:46:05 | nico__ | i come back ... with my ogg bug : |
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| 00:46:56 | webguest19 | err, what does the profiling committ do feature wise ? |
| 00:47:31 | nico__ | i have 2 pc : one onwindows, the other on linux. file i haveencoded with windows work well but i can't read file encoded with linux |
| 00:48:20 | nico__ | when i use the command 'file' on my ogg file encoded with linux, it say MP3 type |
| 00:48:32 | webguest19 | are there readme files within that profile committ ? |
| 00:48:50 | nico__ | but if i rename these file in .mp", i can't read it (with xmms) |
| 00:50:06 | Rob2222 | <= knows nothing |
| 00:50:40 | webguest19 | hmm, lostlogic ? |
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| 00:52:52 | webguest19 | and LinusN escapes |
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| 00:53:18 | webguest19 | my BO is obviously offense |
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| 00:58:29 | robguest18 | huh |
| 00:58:31 | robguest18 | nice |
| 00:58:46 | robguest18 | but i am 27 ^^ |
| 00:58:50 | robguest18 | not 18 |
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| 00:59:35 | nico__ | do you know if there are some format off oggvorbis not compatible with codecs in rockbox ? |
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| 01:04:10 | XavierGr | Hmm interesting! The dircache will not always succed to see changes in the filetree. |
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| 01:04:50 | XavierGr | Example my plugin on start will create a log file. Sometimes dircache will show the file but other time it won't. |
| 01:07:58 | XavierGr | Rob2222: Can I send you somewhere the .rock file and the firmware? |
| 01:08:38 | NightCat | What means HAVE_LCD_COLOR? |
| 01:09:11 | NightCat | If I want my plugin builds only for H300 wich def shoud I use? |
| 01:09:38 | NightCat | IRIVER_H3XX_SERIES ? |
| 01:10:28 | NightCat | Hey somebody :) |
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| 01:11:07 | XavierGr | HAVE_LCD_COLOR means that the target has an lcd with color |
| 01:11:18 | matsl | i need to catch up on new configure. Is the lang selection choice droped? |
| 01:11:39 | NightCat | Yes |
| 01:11:49 | matsl | what's the story? |
| 01:11:50 | XavierGr | bah no HAVE_LCD_COLOR inlcudes the grayscale too. |
| 01:12:18 | XavierGr | or no I am wrong again. |
| 01:12:56 | NightCat | XavierGr: Then it'll be enoth to use IRIVER_H3XX_SERIES define? |
| 01:13:32 | XavierGr | yes if such define exists. |
| 01:15:15 | NightCat | #define IRIVER_H300_SERIES 1 |
| 01:15:31 | NightCat | This string exists in config-h300.h |
| 01:15:53 | matsl | NightCat: if I want another default language what am I supposed to do? Edit the makefile? |
| 01:15:56 | XavierGr | then use it. |
| 01:16:02 | NightCat | Oh IRIVER_H300_SERIES not an IRIVER_H3XX_SERIES :) |
| 01:16:25 | NightCat | matsl: I think yes. But why? |
| 01:16:56 | NightCat | matsl: You can always set it in the working RB options on DAP. |
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| 01:18:43 | matsl | NightCat: I want to check my translation so I was used to setting the language to get right into it. |
| 01:19:33 | matsl | NightCat: and I don't understand DAP |
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| 01:23:04 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: Simply DCC |
| 01:23:07 | Rob2222 | does it work? |
| 01:23:28 | linuxstb | nico__: Can you upload that Ogg file to a web server somewhere? |
| 01:23:48 | XavierGr | For anyone that is interested, here is the patch on the tracker: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1357370&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 01:24:22 | XavierGr | Rob: There you will find a rock file and the firmware download them. |
| 01:24:36 | Rob2222 | you must mod the FW? |
| 01:24:43 | Rob2222 | well, ill check the patch |
| 01:25:15 | XavierGr | In order to make the plugin I added 2 functions in the plugin API and boosted the API_VERSION. |
| 01:25:29 | Rob2222 | aha ok |
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| 01:25:34 | XavierGr | So to run the rock you need a compiled firmware. |
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| 01:26:07 | Rob2222 | is a .diff the same as a .patch? |
| 01:26:19 | linuxstb | XavierGr: I believe Rockbox only re-reads the directory if a plugin returns with the return value PLUGIN_USB_CONNECTED. Otherwise, it assumes the disk contents have changed. |
| 01:26:21 | XavierGr | yup |
| 01:26:36 | linuxstb | I mean "... not changed." |
| 01:27:06 | Rob2222 | hmm, i cant DL the diff file |
| 01:27:33 | XavierGr | I can't really see what you say. Many times the cache will show the newly created file even if my plugin didn't return a USB_CONNECTED. |
| 01:27:40 | XavierGr | Rob let me check. |
| 01:28:09 | NightCat | Somebody knows, how to translate bmp picture to RB text format? |
| 01:28:57 | XavierGr | Rob I just downloaded the patch file successfully. |
| 01:29:50 | Rob2222 | hmm, ill try again |
| 01:30:14 | linuxstb | NightCat: What player are you using? |
| 01:30:31 | Rob2222 | now it works. dont know what it was |
| 01:30:45 | NightCat | linuxstb: H300 |
| 01:30:58 | linuxstb | ../tools/bmp2rb -f 4 myfile.bmp > myfile.c |
| 01:31:17 | NightCat | linuxstb: Thx :) I'll try it now. |
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| 01:41:25 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: Do you know why the battery debug screen isnt usingthe whole screen at the h300? |
| 01:41:49 | XavierGr | you mean in the Debug menu? |
| 01:42:03 | Rob2222 | yep |
| 01:42:03 | XavierGr | Well I guess it hasn't yet ported to fit the size of the H300 screen. |
| 01:42:18 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 01:42:19 | XavierGr | This was the case for the H100 at the start. |
| 01:42:46 | XavierGr | Rockbox has a difficult time with all the ifdef for different targets. |
| 01:43:06 | Rob2222 | yeah, THATS right |
| 01:43:27 | Rob2222 | #define BAT_YSPACE (LCD_HEIGHT - 20) <= that should be the height |
| 01:43:50 | XavierGr | Does my plugin works? Did you test it? |
| 01:43:52 | Rob2222 | im thinking, if it can be that the power history hasnt more data in it. |
| 01:43:57 | Rob2222 | i just compiled it. |
| 01:44:12 | Rob2222 | i want to got to bed but my H300 doesnt finish ist charging cacle :( |
| 01:44:20 | XavierGr | so at least it applied cleanly, good... |
| 01:44:45 | Rob2222 | yep |
| 01:44:52 | Rob2222 | compiled without a problem |
| 01:45:07 | XavierGr | Pointer: When you start the plugin, please take the time with your watch too to see if there is a major error. |
| 01:45:33 | XavierGr | I don't think that there will be a great difference, I made 3 tests already. |
| 01:45:48 | XavierGr | But this plugin is untested so it would be good to see more tests. |
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| 01:46:20 | XavierGr | also when you finish your benchmark please submit your findigs... (wait ti find the link) |
| 01:46:34 | Rob2222 | in the wiki? |
| 01:46:36 | Rob2222 | will do so |
| 01:46:58 | XavierGr | yes there is a wiki page for this, I just don't remember where. |
| 01:46:59 | Rob2222 | shuffle or no shuffle playlist |
| 01:47:10 | Rob2222 | for this test |
| 01:47:12 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 01:47:13 | Rob2222 | i know where |
| 01:47:25 | XavierGr | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverRuntime |
| 01:48:02 | XavierGr | Make sure to have reapet on an album more that 40-50 mb (to make sure the buffer will fill). |
| 01:48:50 | XavierGr | For your first test. (I guess it will be a stress test) make sure to touch the player (backlight, or change of tracks) as little as you can. |
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| 01:49:41 | XavierGr | When you finish you see the battery_bench.txt for a complete history of many battery info over the time. (Voltage, Time, ETA before shut down, % battery time e.t.c) |
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| 01:49:49 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: can it be that its not good to load the plugin twice? |
| 01:50:45 | Rob2222 | ive frozen my unit |
| 01:50:48 | Rob2222 | with that |
| 01:50:51 | XavierGr | Well if you load the plugin a second time it will stop the first bench, though it will continue to log in the same file. (it will not overwrite previous data, it will reset the time counter and say benchmark resumed) |
| 01:51:09 | XavierGr | opps let me check that. |
| 01:51:31 | Rob2222 | 2nd tome |
| 01:51:33 | Rob2222 | tiome |
| 01:51:36 | Rob2222 | time |
| 01:51:53 | XavierGr | well it worked quite fine for me now. |
| 01:52:02 | Rob2222 | damn keyboard. i want a keyboard that types what i think and not what i type |
| 01:52:11 | Rob2222 | huh? |
| 01:52:14 | Rob2222 | strange |
| 01:52:28 | Rob2222 | im hanging at "loading" |
| 01:54:28 | Rob2222 | maybe the problem using a own .iriver in a H300-opimized environment |
| 01:54:39 | XavierGr | I just reloaded the plugin 5-6 times with no problems. |
| 01:54:48 | XavierGr | oh my god. |
| 01:54:52 | Rob2222 | yes, i think the error is here anywhere |
| 01:54:54 | XavierGr | You have an H300? |
| 01:55:03 | Rob2222 | yep |
| 01:55:04 | XavierGr | ah okay |
| 01:55:12 | Rob2222 | whats the problem? |
| 01:55:18 | XavierGr | for one moment I thought you used my firmware. |
| 01:55:27 | Rob2222 | h140? :) |
| 01:55:37 | XavierGr | so does it load the first time? |
| 01:56:01 | Rob2222 | the text viewer hangs, too. as i tried to open battery_bench.txt |
| 01:56:08 | Rob2222 | ill do a clean RB install |
| 01:56:11 | XavierGr | Well I thought that you have an H300 while you used the firmware for H140 in the link..... |
| 01:56:46 | Rob2222 | good that i compiled for myself :) |
| 01:56:49 | XavierGr | Quite strange. I don't have any problem to load any plugin while running the benchmark. |
| 01:56:55 | Rob2222 | no |
| 01:56:57 | Rob2222 | wait |
| 01:57:04 | Rob2222 | i think the problem is here anywhere |
| 01:57:06 | Rob2222 | not your code |
| 01:57:31 | Rob2222 | so forget it |
| 01:57:32 | Rob2222 | :) |
| 01:57:33 | XavierGr | ah okay, do you use a custom build with more features? |
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| 01:59:20 | Rob2222 | sometimes the h300 optimized build |
| 01:59:31 | Rob2222 | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34725 |
| 01:59:43 | Rob2222 | but atm im compiling my own build |
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| 02:00:21 | XavierGr | ok when you test it tell me if you have any problems. |
| 02:02:00 | XavierGr | Good thing is that with this plugin we will be able to compare battery times more accuratelly. |
| 02:02:02 | Rob2222 | yep, will do so |
| 02:02:07 | Rob2222 | yeah |
| 02:02:27 | Rob2222 | shuffle and non shuffle should make no difference, or what do you think? |
| 02:02:39 | XavierGr | People will log their performance and we will be able to see what change in code causes bigger power consumption. |
| 02:03:26 | XavierGr | I think it shouldn't matter. A good shuffle will not have an effect on battery time, but I don't know how shuffle works in rockbox. |
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| 02:26:28 | Rob2222 | why are the codecs and the rock of my own build not identical with the bleeding edge h300 build? its the same source?! |
| 02:27:01 | XavierGr | if you compiled mine they should be difeerent |
| 02:27:31 | Rob2222 | all codecs? |
| 02:27:38 | Rob2222 | and all plugins? |
| 02:27:50 | XavierGr | well to tell you the truth I am not so sure. |
| 02:27:58 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 02:28:02 | Rob2222 | :) |
| 02:28:02 | XavierGr | does it work right now? |
| 02:28:16 | Rob2222 | didnt tested, yet |
| 02:28:33 | Rob2222 | was installing RB new |
| 02:28:39 | Rob2222 | on the player |
| 02:28:43 | Rob2222 | damn different version |
| 02:28:45 | Rob2222 | s |
| 02:28:53 | Rob2222 | cant decide, which to take |
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| 02:32:06 | Rob2222 | hmm, freezing again |
| 02:32:11 | Rob2222 | let me take a clean build |
| 02:32:49 | XavierGr | you have an h140 you said right? |
| 02:32:53 | Rob2222 | H340 |
| 02:33:07 | XavierGr | ah then no go. |
| 02:33:20 | Rob2222 | building from actual CVS + your patch |
| 02:33:22 | Rob2222 | why? |
| 02:33:34 | XavierGr | it will freeze the second time you load it? |
| 02:34:08 | Rob2222 | yes. |
| 02:34:30 | Rob2222 | but give me some seconds |
| 02:34:42 | Rob2222 | maybe something was wrong with the build |
| 02:37:50 | NightCat | How to calculate strings in C? "qwe" + "rty" = "qwerty" or "qwe" . "rty" = "qwerty"? |
| 02:38:43 | XavierGr | no use strcat, or strcpy |
| 02:38:54 | XavierGr | search google on details you will find many. |
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| 02:39:17 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: : the strange thing is, all rocks and codecs are not identical |
| 02:39:21 | NightCat | Hm, i'll thought it'll be simple :) |
| 02:39:37 | Rob2222 | binary compare of my build and latest bleeding edge |
| 02:40:08 | XavierGr | rocks should be different |
| 02:40:19 | XavierGr | I don't know about codecs though |
| 02:40:19 | Rob2222 | maybe its a compiling timestamp |
| 02:42:06 | XavierGr | now that I think of all should be different. |
| 02:42:37 | XavierGr | because I changed something plugin.c and plugin.h , powermgmt.c and .h |
| 02:43:27 | Rob2222 | maybe they are different because i changed the fore and background color |
| 02:43:30 | Rob2222 | that could be |
| 02:43:47 | Rob2222 | ah yes |
| 02:43:50 | XavierGr | but you said it was a clean CVS build |
| 02:43:59 | Rob2222 | only the color change |
| 02:44:25 | XavierGr | yeah it shouldn't matter nontheless |
| 02:44:26 | Rob2222 | didnt thought that the color can have influence in the codecs |
| 02:45:46 | Rob2222 | so i have now installed the latest bleeding zip on my player |
| 02:46:00 | Rob2222 | and the .iriver .rocks .codecs of that build |
| 02:46:22 | Rob2222 | and i cant load another plugin when battery_bench is running |
| 02:46:34 | Rob2222 | just tried cube. |
| 02:46:37 | XavierGr | it will crash? |
| 02:46:47 | Rob2222 | cube (ok) => battery bench => cube |
| 02:46:48 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 02:46:53 | Rob2222 | loading stays there |
| 02:47:04 | Rob2222 | but backlight timeout still works |
| 02:47:06 | XavierGr | crap I don't know |
| 02:47:19 | XavierGr | I will get a dev tomorrow to see this. |
| 02:47:25 | Rob2222 | well i have no problem wit that behaviour atm |
| 02:57:34 | steveb | anyone here use the sudoku plugin? |
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| 02:59:40 | linuxstb | I wrote it... |
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| 03:00:25 | steveb | can you load games? |
| 03:00:38 | steveb | or do you just have to like... do it yourself |
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| 03:03:13 | linuxstb | Yes, you can load games. Just select a ".ss" file in the file browser, and that file will open in Sudoku. See this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginSudoku |
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| 03:04:16 | linuxstb | Use Sudoku as a "viewer" for .ss files is the way it is intended to be used. The "plugin" mode of Sudoku is just for manually creating a new game - e.g. copying it from a newspaper. |
| 03:05:39 | steveb | ah gotcha :) |
| 03:05:42 | steveb | thats awesome |
| 03:05:52 | steveb | you realise that i might fail all my exams now because of you? |
| 03:06:06 | steveb | i hope you can sleep at night |
| 03:10:29 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: The only bad thing is i may not view the battery_bench.txt. ^^ |
| 03:22:03 | NightCat | I know, I'm kinda stupid, but I can't understand: how can I get string = string + int + string? |
| 03:22:40 | NightCat | For ex.: "Start: " + 5 + "sec." = "Start: 5sec." |
| 03:23:00 | NightCat | Rrrrr.... |
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| 03:26:42 | linuxstb | NightCat: Use "snprintf" |
| 03:27:03 | linuxstb | i.e. snprintf(buf,sizeof(buf),"Start: %dsec.",sec); |
| 03:29:10 | NightCat | linuxstb: After other programming languages C seems to be very strange for me... |
| 03:29:30 | linuxstb | After C, other programming langueags seem to be very strange for me... |
| 03:30:11 | NightCat | :) For ex. I can't understand, why not to use just "dferf" + "erfer" like pascal or "regbver" . "reger" like PHP... |
| 03:30:45 | XavierGr | Rob: You can view it after you shut off your DAP. Connect it to your PC and open the text_file from the PC. |
| 03:31:11 | linuxstb | NightCat: Because C is designed to be very close to how computers actually work - it doesn't hide any of the low-level details from you like other languages. |
| 03:32:01 | NightCat | I had noticed that already :) |
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| 03:38:06 | lenny | quick question... I'm using the rockbox devkit and is there a pernament way to set an environmental variable (ie "export CVSROOT=......") so that when I boot it back up it's still set? |
| 03:38:41 | lenny | *permanent |
| 03:40:08 | ashridah | lenny: if you're using cvs co, it should be able to draw the value for that from the checkout itself |
| 03:40:27 | ashridah | (the CVS directory contains files that set what CVSROOT should be) |
| 03:42:00 | lenny | but when I close the command prompt and open it back up, it doesn't know CVSROOT anymore |
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| 03:43:32 | lenny | and how do I set CVSROOT via the CVS directory? sorry I'm new to cvs |
| 03:44:18 | lenny | I see the "Root" file has the server.... |
| 03:45:53 | ashridah | lenny: it should just do it, provided you don't override it on the command line |
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| 03:47:15 | ashridah | you should just be able to run 'cvs up' in the 'rockbox' directory and it should start updating without CVSROOT set |
| 03:48:28 | lenny | thanks ashridah got it |
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| 04:10:36 | lostlogic | 800kohm resistance between system vdd and the AC adapter. |
| 04:10:44 | lostlogic | I'm so glad I bought a multimeter. |
| 04:17:26 | XavierGr | what did you find? |
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| 04:19:39 | XavierGr | anyway have to sleep, I have exams in 5 hours |
| 04:19:47 | lostlogic | luck |
| 04:24:51 | Membrillo | whats HD DVD? |
| 04:25:07 | Membrillo | and BluerayDiscs? |
| 04:26:54 | Membrillo | anyone know? |
| 04:28:29 | lostlogic | HD-DVD and Bluray are two competing technologies for the next generation of optical disc format |
| 04:29:37 | Membrillo | what benefits do they have above each other and in comparison to DVDs? |
| 04:29:55 | lostlogic | 3-5x the capacity of dvd in the first generation |
| 04:29:58 | lostlogic | I forget the comparisons |
| 04:30:12 | Membrillo | cool |
| 04:30:21 | Membrillo | well that doesnt sound bad to start off with |
| 04:32:47 | Membrillo | are they physically different? |
| 04:34:19 | Membrillo | larger? thinner? thicker? smaller diameter? |
| 04:34:56 | lostlogic | not a clue, but I bet google know. |
| 04:34:57 | lostlogic | s |
| 04:35:19 | Membrillo | google is the einstein of search engines |
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| 04:40:26 | NightCat | If I want to cut the string how can I do this? For ex.: string "56 67 12" = "56", "67", "12"? |
| 04:40:48 | lostlogic | strtok I believe |
| 04:40:54 | lostlogic | or sscanf |
| 04:41:33 | NightCat | There is no such functions for plugins... |
| 04:41:35 | Membrillo | strtok sounds familiar |
| 04:41:50 | lostlogic | nightcat: no rb->strtok? |
| 04:42:00 | NightCat | Yes |
| 04:42:17 | NightCat | In plugin.h no strtok function declared... |
| 04:42:43 | NightCat | Or I don't understand something again? |
| 04:43:01 | lostlogic | might have to tokenize it manually using strrchr |
| 04:43:14 | NightCat | Neither strtok nor sscanf... |
| 04:43:16 | lostlogic | and strchr |
| 04:43:31 | NightCat | There is strchr. |
| 04:43:50 | lostlogic | yeah, strtok could be exported... it's in rockbox source |
| 04:44:43 | NightCat | But how to use it? I mean in Pascal for ex I just doing like that dest := copy(sourc,begin_pos,symbols_count)... |
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| 04:45:24 | lostlogic | strcpy is in the plugin api |
| 04:45:35 | lostlogic | so you could declare new buffers to put the result strings into |
| 04:46:20 | lostlogic | what are you working on? |
| 04:47:56 | NightCat | I just trying to understand some C. Now I makeing a function wich will load a level (it will be a game) from file to 2D array... |
| 04:48:33 | NightCat | I have a file And i get it in my plugin with read_line. |
| 04:49:08 | NightCat | Every line looks like this: 11111 11111 11111 11111 |
| 04:49:41 | NightCat | I mean Elements is divided by whitespaces |
| 04:49:58 | lostlogic | sure, but that's an obvious machine readable format, there is no need to really tokenize, just read the first 5 characters into array[0][0] and then skip one and read the next 5 into array[0][1]? |
| 04:51:22 | NightCat | It's an exit (or how it will be in english) but i was looking for something more simple. |
| 04:51:53 | lostlogic | 'an exit' <−− don't understand :( |
| 04:53:28 | NightCat | Exit of this situation, the decision of the problem |
| 04:53:39 | lostlogic | solution |
| 04:53:46 | NightCat | Yes :) |
| 04:54:14 | lostlogic | yeah, a lot of the 'nicer' functions aren't available in rockbox because of the limitations of the embedded platform (sscanf would be how I'd do it in a 'bigger' C program) |
| 04:55:30 | NightCat | I know it's an influence of Pascal... :) (In Russia we have such expression: "Exit of the situation" = solution :)) |
| 04:55:44 | lostlogic | makes sense. |
| 04:56:12 | lostlogic | I seem to keep running into russians lately. like 1/2 of my team at work was born somewhere in the former soviat. |
| 04:56:15 | lostlogic | soviet |
| 04:56:59 | NightCat | lostlogic: Where are you from? |
| 04:57:13 | lostlogic | Chicago, Illinois, USA |
| 04:57:18 | NightCat | Oh :) |
| 04:57:39 | NightCat | I want to went to USA somewhen... |
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| 04:58:16 | lostlogic | :) |
| 04:59:13 | NightCat | I have a website and it's based somewhere in Scranton... |
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| 05:00:02 | lostlogic | is that a place in the US? |
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| 05:00:46 | NightCat | lostlogic: Yes |
| 05:01:05 | NightCat | I think I typed wrong... |
| 05:01:23 | lostlogic | There appears to be a town called Scranton in Pennsylvania |
| 05:02:02 | NightCat | Yes that is it :) |
| 05:02:34 | lostlogic | :) −− I was born in Pennsylvania, but only lived there until I was about 3 years old. |
| 05:03:29 | JoeBorn | lost: whereabouts in Chicago? |
| 05:03:37 | lostlogic | JoeBorn: lakeview |
| 05:03:49 | JoeBorn | oh, I'm in Lincolnwood |
| 05:04:00 | NightCat | Heh, And I was born in St.-Petersburg lived there about 2 years |
| 05:04:22 | NightCat | Then 1 year in Germany (Berlin) |
| 05:04:42 | lostlogic | *nod* I'm a city type :) |
| 05:04:48 | NightCat | And now again in Russia :) |
| 05:04:58 | lostlogic | cool −− what all languages do you speak? |
| 05:05:43 | NightCat | Unfortunately I speak only Russian and some English... |
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| 05:05:56 | JoeBorn | lost: I'm kind of a city type too, just not living there right now. |
| 05:06:27 | NightCat | I live in a small town now But I love it :) |
| 05:06:33 | lostlogic | NightCat: it's all good −− you speak more languages than I do, I speak English and a tiny bit of Spanish |
| 05:07:29 | NightCat | Hehe :) It is a big center of metallurgy (SeverStahl)... That is all |
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| 05:07:53 | NightCat | Ah, and it is about 600 km far from Moscow :) |
| 05:08:27 | lostlogic | do you visit moscow often? |
| 05:09:20 | NightCat | I think "often" is not the right word... I have relatives and friends there. |
| 05:09:30 | lostlogic | so 'sometimes' perhaps? |
| 05:09:37 | NightCat | My sister lives in Moscow. |
| 05:09:48 | NightCat | Yes sometimes. |
| 05:10:40 | NightCat | I think I'll go to MSC this summer :) |
| 05:11:00 | lostlogic | MSC?? |
| 05:11:07 | NightCat | MSC = Moscow :) |
| 05:11:24 | lostlogic | thought it might be, wondered if it was something _in_ Moscow though. |
| 05:12:01 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 05:12:06 | NightCat | Hi |
| 05:12:27 | * | lostlogic waves |
| 05:12:49 | Jungti1234 | heh.. |
| 05:13:07 | NightCat | What means "waves" (I know translation but...)? |
| 05:13:43 | NightCat | It something related with "swim"? |
| 05:13:48 | Jungti1234 | Wave |
| 05:13:54 | lostlogic | it's a hand gesture −− a salutation, open hand, usually palm out, 'waved' back and forth in greeting. |
| 05:14:23 | Jungti1234 | I understood it using translation. :) |
| 05:14:28 | NightCat | Oh :) Now I know :) |
| 05:14:52 | lostlogic | Same gesture work in Russian? :) |
| 05:15:25 | NightCat | Yes |
| 05:15:56 | Jungti1234 | Moscow is cold. |
| 05:17:07 | NightCat | We have about -30 Celsii... |
| 05:17:15 | lostlogic | ouch, yes it is! 31C colder than here |
| 05:17:18 | lostlogic | brrrrr |
| 05:17:34 | NightCat | 17 degres farenheit yes? |
| 05:17:41 | Jungti1234 | Seoul is livable! |
| 05:17:52 | lostlogic | it's ~33F here... |
| 05:17:57 | lostlogic | -30C is -23F |
| 05:18:11 | NightCat | lostlogic: Hm - strange... |
| 05:18:19 | Jungti1234 | yes |
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| 05:18:44 | Jungti1234 | Seoul is 5.6C now. |
| 05:18:48 | NightCat | lostlogic: We have 0 a couple of days ago... But now... |
| 05:18:56 | lostlogic | man, that's cold. |
| 05:19:06 | lostlogic | It almost never gets that cold here in Chicago |
| 05:19:06 | Jungti1234 | uh? |
| 05:19:20 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: no, yours is fairly comfortable ;) |
| 05:19:31 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
| 05:19:44 | NightCat | lostlogic: I don't like winter much but... I have to live :) |
| 05:19:58 | lostlogic | NightCat: I wouldn't either if my winters were as cold as yours. I like winter here. |
| 05:20:15 | Jungti1234 | Jeju is 10C. |
| 05:20:36 | Jungti1234 | It's not the winter! |
| 05:21:01 | NightCat | When we have 0 in Novosibirsk was about -45C (a couple of days ago)... |
| 05:21:08 | Jungti1234 | It's spring temperature. |
| 05:21:10 | NightCat | Novosibirsk - Russia |
| 05:21:40 | NightCat | lostlogic: What about time? |
| 05:21:44 | lostlogic | where is that coooollllddd place? |
| 05:21:52 | lostlogic | the time here? 22:21 |
| 05:22:05 | lostlogic | you are .. 11:21? |
| 05:22:09 | NightCat | :) 7:22 |
| 05:22:13 | Jungti1234 | The Russia is much cold. |
| 05:22:17 | lostlogic | gah, very early there. |
| 05:22:23 | Jungti1234 | here is 13:22 |
| 05:22:29 | NightCat | I was here all night :) |
| 05:22:42 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
| 05:22:43 | NightCat | That is why "NightCat" |
| 05:22:49 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 05:22:52 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 05:23:02 | lostlogic | I'll be heading off to bed within 1.5hr, have to work 0900-1700 every day |
| 05:23:21 | dpassen1 | 9-5, eh? me too |
| 05:23:38 | NightCat | And I'm a student... |
| 05:23:46 | Jungti1234 | You work so a little. |
| 05:24:05 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: am lucky, have a good job. |
| 05:24:21 | NightCat | lostlogic: How it will be: the time when students passes their exams? |
| 05:24:31 | Jungti1234 | Koreans work to 8-18(~24). |
| 05:24:58 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: I used to work 8-18 at my last job |
| 05:25:07 | lostlogic | NightCat: hmm... final exams? |
| 05:25:19 | lostlogic | or the time between exams and next semester? |
| 05:25:19 | NightCat | Not final... |
| 05:25:23 | lostlogic | midterms? |
| 05:25:28 | NightCat | Yes |
| 05:25:30 | lostlogic | ok |
| 05:25:51 | lostlogic | so what are you doing working on rockbox if it's midterms for you??? |
| 05:25:52 | NightCat | I studying in the university... |
| 05:26:13 | NightCat | lostlogic: Cause I'm a programmist :) |
| 05:26:37 | NightCat | And it is my creed. |
| 05:26:41 | lostlogic | haha |
| 05:27:06 | lostlogic | are you studying computer science (programming) at university? |
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| 05:28:15 | NightCat | Yep: Institute of management and information technologies. Faculty of applied computer science in economy. |
| 05:28:39 | Jungti1234 | Starcraft 1.13f patch released! |
| 05:28:42 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 05:28:45 | NightCat | (And i'm working in a small computer firm since 15) |
| 05:30:16 | NightCat | Jungti1234: What are you talking about? |
| 05:30:31 | lostlogic | a game... |
| 05:30:56 | NightCat | lostlogic: I now this game but why here and now :) |
| 05:31:07 | Jungti1234 | Don't you know starcraft? |
| 05:31:14 | NightCat | Jungti1234: fan? |
| 05:31:27 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 05:31:33 | Jungti1234 | I don't understand |
| 05:31:40 | lostlogic | My head hurts thinking about you two communicating through two layers of translation :-\ |
| 05:31:49 | NightCat | Jungti1234: Are You a fan of this game? |
| 05:32:01 | Jungti1234 | A little . |
| 05:32:17 | NightCat | lostlogic: It's ok :) |
| 05:32:27 | Jungti1234 | Korean likes most starcraft. |
| 05:32:49 | Jungti1234 | -> most korean likes starcraft. |
| 05:32:50 | NightCat | lostlogic: Did you know a thing named Skype? |
| 05:33:05 | NightCat | Jungti1234: :) |
| 05:33:06 | lostlogic | I have heard of it, but never used it. |
| 05:33:30 | NightCat | lostlogic: It's like ICQ but made for voice talking. |
| 05:34:08 | NightCat | lostlogic: Some time ago a use it to talk to different people around the world :) |
| 05:34:32 | NightCat | lostlogic: And it was very funny :) |
| 05:34:33 | lostlogic | NightCat: yep, I know people that use it, I tend to prefer typing to communicate, because I type faster than I speak |
| 05:34:36 | lostlogic | hahah, I bet |
| 05:35:09 | NightCat | :) |
| 05:36:24 | NightCat | Moreover my sister tryed to do this too :) (She don't know English at all) :) |
| 05:36:43 | NightCat | And it was really funny :) |
| 05:37:05 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 05:37:33 | lostlogic | hahaha, I have enough trouble talking to people from England or Australia :-P |
| 05:37:38 | NightCat | English is a good language I think... I don't like German... |
| 05:37:51 | Jungti1234 | I like Korean! |
| 05:38:40 | Jungti1234 | I don't English because I do Korean. |
| 05:38:45 | NightCat | lostlogic: I have one talk with Korean man who live somewhere in the Atlantic ocean (he works policeman there) |
| 05:39:02 | lostlogic | hehe |
| 05:39:09 | Jungti1234 | There is problem when speak with you. |
| 05:39:26 | NightCat | Jungti1234: What you mean? |
| 05:39:46 | lostlogic | English is ... a useful language. It is very direct and can be used to communicate with few words and few sylables. It is however stupid, lacking in rules, and in other ways irritating. |
| 05:39:53 | lostlogic | I really like Spanish, and wish I knew more of it |
| 05:39:55 | Jungti1234 | Is problem as it does English. |
| 05:40:16 | Jungti1234 | I don't well English. |
| 05:40:29 | NightCat | Is there in English phrase "To play the fool"? |
| 05:40:37 | lostlogic | yes |
| 05:40:43 | Jungti1234 | The Korea speaks only Korean. |
| 05:40:56 | NightCat | (It means to spend time in vain, yes?) |
| 05:41:01 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: nobody there knows English |
| 05:41:10 | NightCat | Jungti1234: Why? |
| 05:41:22 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 05:41:35 | lostlogic | NightCat: hmm, to play the fool in English seem to mean to pretend not to understand in order to draw another out |
| 05:41:45 | Jungti1234 | English is no necessity to talk with Koreans. |
| 05:42:20 | NightCat | lostlogic: Ah, I understand - stupid translator... |
| 05:42:31 | Jungti1234 | Korean studies English. Don't learn English. |
| 05:42:35 | NightCat | lostlogic: Moment... |
| 05:42:44 | Jungti1234 | It's foolish act. |
| 05:42:59 | lostlogic | NightCat: How do you study English and not learn? |
| 05:43:40 | NightCat | I was studying it at school... |
| 05:44:16 | NightCat | But I think there was not very much material :) |
| 05:44:16 | lostlogic | sorry, that was addressed to Jungti1234 |
| 05:44:28 | lostlogic | NightCat: are you using a translating program to help you speak in English here? |
| 05:44:29 | NightCat | Oh :) |
| 05:44:48 | Jungti1234 | I use.] |
| 05:44:56 | NightCat | Sometimes with hard to understand words... |
| 05:45:16 | Jungti1234 | 'Language' doesn't study. |
| 05:45:24 | Jungti1234 | Learn. |
| 05:45:42 | NightCat | I think the main in language is vocabulary. |
| 05:46:08 | lostlogic | NightCat: for only communication yes. but to really speak a language fluently you need much more. |
| 05:46:09 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 05:46:26 | Jungti1234 | But, Korean school teaches syntax. |
| 05:46:46 | NightCat | lostlogic: You're right... |
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| 05:47:25 | NightCat | For ex. RB helps me to learn English :) |
| 05:47:39 | lostlogic | hehe :) |
| 05:47:40 | Jungti1234 | me too hehe |
| 05:47:46 | Jungti1234 | I used google translation first time. |
| 05:47:56 | Jungti1234 | It's broken. |
| 05:48:15 | Jungti1234 | People didn't understand my speech. |
| 05:48:31 | Jungti1234 | I changed translation program. |
| 05:48:42 | NightCat | All machine translators are bad translators... |
| 05:48:50 | lostlogic | some worse than others |
| 05:48:56 | NightCat | Yes |
| 05:48:59 | Jungti1234 | Now, people understand few my speech. |
| 05:48:59 | lostlogic | we can understand Jungti at least now ;) |
| 05:49:18 | Jungti1234 | hehe :D |
| 05:49:28 | NightCat | And what about fool? |
| 05:49:42 | NightCat | To play a fool and to ... a fool... |
| 05:49:59 | lostlogic | don't follow. |
| 05:50:11 | Jungti1234 | What meaning is it? |
| 05:50:28 | NightCat | We also have phrase "to play a fool". |
| 05:50:35 | NightCat | (I am about phrases :)) |
| 05:51:03 | Jungti1234 | Are you fool? :P |
| 05:51:16 | NightCat | No :) |
| 05:51:24 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 05:51:52 | NightCat | But we have phrase connected with fool wich means to waste time... |
| 05:52:06 | lostlogic | "Fool around"? |
| 05:52:28 | lostlogic | (of course "fool around" can mean something else ... between a couple) |
| 05:52:37 | NightCat | It is about wasteing of time? |
| 05:52:52 | lostlogic | "fool around" or "goof off" are wasting time |
| 05:53:21 | NightCat | Oh yes, my translator translates it :) |
| 05:53:32 | lostlogic | hehe :) |
| 05:53:34 | NightCat | translates = translated... |
| 05:53:42 | Jungti1234 | gkkkldfs |
| 05:54:09 | Jungti1234 | http://club.iriver.co.kr/digital/bbs_free_view.asp?free_board_idx=231397 |
| 05:54:26 | NightCat | To play a fool = ñòðîèòü äóðî÷êà\äóðî÷êó. fool around = Âàëÿòü äóðîêà. |
| 05:54:50 | Jungti1234 | -_-? |
| 05:55:02 | lostlogic | lol... russian characters... don't show up well in my terminal. |
| 05:55:05 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: what is that post about??? |
| 05:55:08 | NightCat | Jungti1234: Very funny :-/ |
| 05:55:27 | NightCat | lostlogic: I think about Korean :) |
| 05:55:37 | lostlogic | heh |
| 05:56:32 | NightCat | http://love.dakda.com/?nightcat |
| 05:56:43 | Jungti1234 | H300 LCD's problem. |
| 05:56:46 | NightCat | It's my website :) |
| 05:57:03 | Jungti1234 | It's serious problem in the Korea. |
| 05:57:12 | Jungti1234 | http://love.dakda.com/?nightcat ?? |
| 05:57:12 | NightCat | Jungti1234: What problem? |
| 05:57:12 | lostlogic | who's the picture? |
| 05:57:26 | NightCat | lostlogic: It's I :) |
| 05:57:31 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: I wonder if it was the early release in Korea only that got the bad LCDs...? |
| 05:57:39 | lostlogic | NightCat: and who's the pretty lady??? |
| 05:58:16 | NightCat | http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/1_3_b.jpg ? |
| 05:58:29 | Jungti1234 | H300 LCD is problem. |
| 05:58:42 | Jungti1234 | I talked it before. |
| 05:59:06 | Jungti1234 | http://love.dakda.com/images/left.gif <- Who is this person? |
| 05:59:14 | lostlogic | haha, yeah |
| 05:59:37 | NightCat | http://love.dakda.com/images/left.gif ? It is just a picture :) |
| 05:59:40 | Jungti1234 | http://love.dakda.com/index.php?err404=true ??? |
| 05:59:41 | lostlogic | ahahahaha |
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| 06:00:06 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 06:00:10 | Jungti1234 | um.. |
| 06:00:14 | Jungti1234 | ¬£¬à¬Ù¬Þ¬à¬Ø¬ß¬í¬Ö ¬á¬â¬Ú¬é¬Ú¬ß¬í |
| 06:00:28 | Jungti1234 | I don't know Russian. |
| 06:00:50 | NightCat | You doesn't need it :) |
| 06:01:18 | lostlogic | NightCat: you have some very personal information on your site |
| 06:01:19 | NightCat | http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/1_3_b.jpg - I am. |
| 06:01:31 | NightCat | http://love.dakda.com - Just my website. |
| 06:02:03 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 06:02:11 | Jungti1234 | Very young. |
| 06:02:44 | NightCat | It's an service of acquaintances (my websait). I'm 18. |
| 06:03:09 | NightCat | lostlogic: You know Russia? |
| 06:03:16 | lostlogic | NightCat: used a translator |
| 06:03:18 | NightCat | lostlogic:Or use translator? |
| 06:03:22 | NightCat | Ok :) |
| 06:03:44 | NightCat | lostlogic: yes cause it's an service of acquaintances. |
| 06:03:53 | Jungti1234 | I'm 17 |
| 06:04:02 | NightCat | lostlogic: I did it myself when learning PHP. |
| 06:04:05 | | Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 06:04:27 | Jungti1234 | PHP |
| 06:04:40 | Jungti1234 | I know a little HTML and PHP. |
| 06:04:41 | NightCat | Yes PHP MySQL CSS HTML JS |
| 06:04:47 | Jungti1234 | CSS too |
| 06:05:20 | lostlogic | NightCat: :) not bad... you're also tiny, if I'm converting metric to stupid english units right. |
| 06:05:41 | NightCat | lostlogic: In PHP there are a lot of buildin functions for working with strings :) |
| 06:06:02 | lostlogic | NightCat: of course, it's for building websites, which are essentially big strings. |
| 06:06:08 | NightCat | 1,65 in metric. |
| 06:06:23 | lostlogic | I believe I'm 172cm |
| 06:06:26 | NightCat | a second |
| 06:06:29 | Jungti1234 | O |
| 06:06:29 | DreamTactix291 | I'm 175cm |
| 06:06:33 | Jungti1234 | I'm 180 |
| 06:06:51 | lostlogic | koreans for the win! |
| 06:06:52 | NightCat | DreamTactix291: Hi :) |
| 06:06:58 | DreamTactix291 | yo |
| 06:07:00 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 06:07:15 | DreamTactix291 | metric ftw |
| 06:07:16 | NightCat | Anyone else? |
| 06:07:17 | lostlogic | and uhh I'm 68.5kg |
| 06:07:23 | DreamTactix291 | i'm 58kg |
| 06:07:30 | NightCat | I'm about 56... |
| 06:08:00 | NightCat | People, I think we have to save the histori of IRC today :) |
| 06:08:04 | lostlogic | haha, and we've officially reduced #rockbox to Just Another Chat Room recently. |
| 06:08:05 | Jungti1234 | hey.... :) |
| 06:08:12 | DreamTactix291 | nothing wrong with that |
| 06:08:13 | Jungti1234 | I'm 85kg -_- |
| 06:08:23 | DreamTactix291 | and besides important stuff still gets discussed |
| 06:08:37 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: I'll have to remember that you're bigger than me. :-P |
| 06:08:43 | DreamTactix291 | yeah same here |
| 06:08:43 | Jungti1234 | kk |
| 06:08:48 | DreamTactix291 | my brother is a lot bigger than me |
| 06:08:49 | Jungti1234 | http://jungti1234.netcci.net/mypic.jpg |
| 06:08:49 | DreamTactix291 | he's |
| 06:08:58 | lostlogic | DreamTactix291: have you tried out my AB-repeat for swcodec patch? |
| 06:09:02 | Jungti1234 | hua |
| 06:09:26 | DreamTactix291 | 188cm and 104kg |
| 06:09:34 | DreamTactix291 | lostlogic: nope |
| 06:09:41 | Jungti1234 | who? |
| 06:09:45 | DreamTactix291 | my brother |
| 06:09:48 | Jungti1234 | oh.. |
| 06:09:51 | DreamTactix291 | younger brother |
| 06:10:14 | lostlogic | http://lostlogicx.com/cgi-perl/pics.pl?COMMAND=FILE&FILE=/images/pics/brandon/1124and-r1-054-25a.jpg&SIZE=800 <−− but _I_ carry a sword. |
| 06:10:30 | lostlogic | (you can't see them, but I'm on inline skates in that pic) |
| 06:10:34 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 06:10:40 | DreamTactix291 | umm |
| 06:10:41 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
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| 06:10:52 | DreamTactix291 | i have a pic of me and my girl |
| 06:11:05 | DreamTactix291 | http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/CarPics/DSC00070.JPG |
| 06:11:07 | Jungti1234 | hey NightCat |
| 06:11:10 | lostlogic | DreamTactix291: gah, what have I missed... last time I really talked to you, you swore you'd never have a girl... |
| 06:11:24 | lostlogic | dt: 404 |
| 06:11:27 | Jungti1234 | http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/1_3_b.jpg = http://love.dakda.com/images/left.gif ??? |
| 06:11:29 | DreamTactix291 | err |
| 06:11:32 | DreamTactix291 | http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/DSC00070.JPG |
| 06:11:36 | NightCat | Jungti1234: What? |
| 06:11:39 | DreamTactix291 | added directory accidentally |
| 06:11:51 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: left.jpg is just a stock image |
| 06:12:14 | Jungti1234 | DreamTactix291: Are you woman? |
| 06:12:18 | NightCat | Jungti1234: NO |
| 06:12:18 | DreamTactix291 | no |
| 06:12:28 | DreamTactix291 | i'm male |
| 06:12:30 | DreamTactix291 | i just have long hair |
| 06:13:06 | lostlogic | damn dude, your girl is a cutie −− you go! |
| 06:13:11 | Jungti1234 | I see they are woman. |
| 06:13:29 | DreamTactix291 | thanks |
| 06:14:04 | DreamTactix291 | i think she's cute too :P |
| 06:14:10 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 06:14:35 | DreamTactix291 | either she's really young or i'm just getting old |
| 06:15:06 | NightCat | Em... This is my girlfriend: http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/179_1_b.jpg |
| 06:15:31 | DreamTactix291 | cute |
| 06:15:51 | NightCat | Thx :) |
| 06:16:01 | DreamTactix291 | my girl is only 18 lol |
| 06:16:19 | lostlogic | I swear... russian chicks... I gotta learn russian. |
| 06:16:20 | NightCat | And my is 17 |
| 06:16:33 | lostlogic | DT: How old are you? |
| 06:16:35 | DreamTactix291 | 17 is illegal for me where i live |
| 06:16:37 | DreamTactix291 | 22 in 2 days |
| 06:17:06 | Jungti1234 | wjpwpwdk |
| 06:17:45 | NightCat | lostlogic: Come on a visit :) |
| 06:18:01 | lostlogic | http://bling.properkernel.com/brooke/albums/09_09_2005/21st_018.sized.jpg (as long as we're doing girls pics) |
| 06:18:04 | lostlogic | NightCat: :) |
| 06:18:12 | Jungti1234 | NightCat: She is beautiful |
| 06:18:16 | lostlogic | NightCat: some day I'll manage to get off of this continent. |
| 06:18:26 | DreamTactix291 | lostlogic: same for me |
| 06:18:34 | NightCat | lostlogic: Let me know. |
| 06:18:53 | DreamTactix291 | on a completely unrelated note Symphony X owns |
| 06:19:11 | lostlogic | DreamTactix291: whadat? Have you heard ChronoSymphonic? _it_ pwnz |
| 06:19:28 | DreamTactix291 | Symphony X = prog metal band |
| 06:19:35 | DreamTactix291 | actually kinda similar to Dream Theater but heavier |
| 06:21:09 | NightCat | Ok, people I was very pleased to talking with all of you (especially lostlogic) but i have to go... Sometime so we shall goof off again (talk about something)! |
| 06:21:27 | lostlogic | sleep well nightcat |
| 06:21:33 | NightCat | Thx :) |
| 06:22:00 | DreamTactix291 | night NightCat |
| 06:22:07 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 06:23:00 | NightCat | Bye |
| 06:23:04 | | Part NightCat |
| 06:23:37 | Jungti1234 | Are all Europeans sleeping? |
| 06:24:43 | lostlogic | it's like 5am there, so probably. |
| 06:25:31 | Jungti1234 | Paprica, Why your nickname is '^Guest37784'? :P |
| 06:26:13 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/19/166/DSCF4893.jpg |
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| 06:33:10 | lennyk | hey everybody. here's my story. I've been trying to patch a build and build it, but it only seemed to have taken effect when I used the source off the daily build page. when I did a cvs checkout, after building and loading it on the target it was clear the build was not patched. any ideas what I did wrong? |
| 06:33:54 | lostlogic | lennyk: patch a build in what way? |
| 06:35:27 | lennyk | lostlogic: "patch -p0 −−binary < ~/patchfile.patch" and then IF it asked me for what file to patch I directed it to apps/filetobepatched.c (from the |
| 06:35:41 | lennyk | directory below apps) |
| 06:36:22 | lostlogic | and you build and build zip and unzip onto the target? |
| 06:36:27 | lennyk | yes |
| 06:37:02 | lennyk | I must have done something wrong, it's just strange that with the same steps it worked with a daily build source but not with a cvs checkout source |
| 06:37:18 | lostlogic | if you do a cvs diff from your CVS checkout dir, does it show the right files changed? |
| 06:37:52 | lennyk | I've never made a diff... what do type |
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| 06:38:36 | Jungti1234 | ¤Ç¤Ñ |
| 06:38:39 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 06:38:44 | lostlogic | cvs diff |
| 06:39:57 | Jungti1234 | He exited |
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| 06:40:06 | Jungti1234 | ow |
| 06:40:13 | lennyk | back you said "cvs diff" |
| 06:40:39 | lostlogic | yeah |
| 06:41:17 | lennyk | i'll try it. it'll be a minute. don't have the cvs checkout files anymore |
| 06:42:42 | Jungti1234 | I did easily it. |
| 06:50:31 | | Quit Jungti1234 () |
| 06:55:39 | lennyk | lostlogic: well, thanks but apparently it worked this time. it was obviously my fault although I have no idea what I did this time that I didn't do the the first five times. Thanks |
| 06:58:01 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 07:03:15 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
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| 07:28:43 | Membrillo | at what voltage does rockbox shut down the player on H3xxs? |
| 07:28:49 | Membrillo | for low battery? |
| 07:30:00 | lostlogic | 3.39v |
| 07:30:06 | Membrillo | hmmm |
| 07:30:16 | Membrillo | my player is acting very peculiarily then |
| 07:30:16 | lostlogic | is considered dangerous where the disc has a hard time spinning up |
| 07:30:26 | lostlogic | are you running H3x0 optimized? and howso? |
| 07:34:04 | Membrillo | well i had my player running for a couple of hours and it was at 3.82v. All of a sudden it turned off randomly. Holding down play wouldnt do anything. I then held down record and play and the original firmware started. I shut down the original firmware and held play. Rockbox started but after about 5 seconds it shut down again. I then held record and play again to make sure i could access the original firmware and the rockbox bo |
| 07:34:45 | lostlogic | old battery? new battery? anything bad happen to battery recently? |
| 07:35:07 | Membrillo | original untouched battery. nothing happened to it. working fine. H3xx optimized build |
| 07:35:16 | Membrillo | was working fine that is |
| 07:35:18 | Jungti1234 | hey Membrillo |
| 07:35:20 | Jungti1234 | bug! |
| 07:35:30 | Membrillo | what bug? |
| 07:35:40 | Membrillo | there is a battery bug? |
| 07:35:56 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 07:36:23 | lostlogic | Membrillo: very weird. |
| 07:36:40 | Jungti1234 | zip doesn't auto unzip. |
| 07:36:42 | Membrillo | should i stop it charging and see if rockbox will boot? |
| 07:36:57 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: doesnt it? |
| 07:36:58 | lostlogic | I would boot into iRiver firmware and let it charge for a while |
| 07:36:59 | Membrillo | ill check it out |
| 07:37:06 | Jungti1234 | It's rockbox downloader's bug. |
| 07:37:18 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: yes, ill check it out |
| 07:37:27 | Membrillo | lostlogic: ok ill leave it charging for a while |
| 07:38:05 | Membrillo | lostlogic: can i plug in USB to make a backup of my HD in case it dies? |
| 07:38:11 | lostlogic | sure |
| 07:38:13 | Membrillo | while leaving the charger in? |
| 07:38:15 | Membrillo | ok |
| 07:38:47 | Membrillo | ummm |
| 07:38:58 | Membrillo | it says connected on my screen but nothings coming up on my pc |
| 07:39:01 | Membrillo | how very strange |
| 07:39:23 | Membrillo | my iriver better not be confucked |
| 07:39:43 | Membrillo | my iriver just shot off again |
| 07:39:47 | Membrillo | shut down* |
| 07:40:17 | Membrillo | shut down while in USB mode |
| 07:40:23 | Membrillo | hmmm how very weird |
| 07:40:26 | Membrillo | bad iriver |
| 07:40:33 | lostlogic | sounds like your disk might be what's being flakey :-\ |
| 07:40:45 | Membrillo | damn it |
| 07:40:49 | Membrillo | please no |
| 07:40:58 | Membrillo | i dont have any copy of my 20gb of music |
| 07:41:01 | Membrillo | i was just about to make one |
| 07:41:19 | lostlogic | 1) reset, 2) let cool, 3) boot into iRiver firmware and USB connect. |
| 07:41:33 | Membrillo | wait |
| 07:41:35 | Membrillo | its working now |
| 07:41:41 | Membrillo | USB is working on my PC |
| 07:41:51 | Membrillo | ill copy everything to my PC in case |
| 07:42:44 | Jungti1234 | yeah iriver is bad |
| 07:42:46 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 07:43:01 | Membrillo | 35min remaining on the copy clock |
| 07:43:12 | Membrillo | come on rivey, dont die on me now |
| 07:43:35 | Membrillo | ah fuck |
| 07:43:39 | Membrillo | it just shut down again |
| 07:43:50 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 07:44:42 | Membrillo | i think leaving it to charge is my only hope |
| 07:45:09 | Membrillo | ill leave it off for a little while first |
| 07:45:29 | Jungti1234 | what is profiling? |
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| 07:46:43 | lostlogic | software performance analysis |
| 07:46:48 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: what problem did you find in the downloader? |
| 07:47:27 | Jungti1234 | I seted it to do unzip automatically. |
| 07:47:34 | Membrillo | yeah |
| 07:47:41 | Jungti1234 | But, it didn't work. |
| 07:47:49 | Membrillo | what happened? |
| 07:47:52 | Membrillo | error? |
| 07:47:55 | Jungti1234 | I don't know |
| 07:48:03 | Membrillo | did something pop up? |
| 07:48:07 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 07:48:19 | Jungti1234 | Paprica! |
| 07:48:29 | Jungti1234 | ^Guest37784! |
| 07:49:16 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: for what player and what build? |
| 07:49:29 | Jungti1234 | H120, H300 |
| 07:49:45 | Jungti1234 | I tested it only. |
| 07:49:49 | Membrillo | oh |
| 07:49:56 | Membrillo | it says please choose unzip destination? |
| 07:50:06 | Membrillo | ive just found that |
| 07:50:23 | Membrillo | hmmm |
| 07:50:25 | Membrillo | that needs fixing |
| 07:50:35 | Membrillo | im not sure why that happens |
| 07:51:22 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 07:51:28 | Membrillo | is that the problem you had? |
| 07:52:06 | Jungti1234 | I seted it to do unzip to I: (H300). |
| 07:52:24 | Membrillo | and what happened? |
| 07:53:07 | Jungti1234 | And do unzip and did so that file may be deleted. |
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| 07:53:15 | Jungti1234 | (Translation is strange) |
| 07:54:12 | Membrillo | i think that settles it. my iriver is McFuckered |
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| 07:54:25 | Membrillo | goodbye poor ipod :'( |
| 07:54:31 | Membrillo | iriver* |
| 07:54:35 | Jungti1234 | heh |
| 07:54:39 | lostlogic | Membrillo: why you say that now? |
| 07:54:50 | Membrillo | it wont do anything anymore |
| 07:55:01 | DreamTactix291 | :| |
| 07:55:04 | DreamTactix291 | that sucks |
| 07:55:05 | Membrillo | every now and then im able to get it to go into charging mode |
| 07:55:15 | Membrillo | but i cant boot rockbox at all |
| 07:55:20 | Membrillo | and iriver firmware is on and off |
| 07:55:36 | Membrillo | should i try flashing to a clean firmware? |
| 07:55:41 | Jungti1234 | But, zip doesn't unzip and file deleted. |
| 07:55:47 | lostlogic | Membrillo: don't try flashing anything. |
| 07:56:08 | Membrillo | lostlogic: ok, thats actually pretty wise :P seeing it will probably shut off half way through |
| 07:56:31 | lostlogic | Membrillo: turn it off to rest, and then if you can still get into USB mode and mount it, try a rockbox I want to send you |
| 07:56:36 | Jungti1234 | Aren't you that your battery is discharged? |
| 07:56:38 | Membrillo | do you suspect my battery or my harddrive is stuuffing it up? |
| 07:56:47 | Membrillo | ok, |
| 07:56:48 | lostlogic | leaning back toward battery now. |
| 07:56:52 | Membrillo | good |
| 07:56:59 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1695 |
| 07:57:00 | Membrillo | batteries are cheaper than harddrives |
| 07:57:08 | Jungti1234 | Same problem |
| 07:57:10 | Membrillo | and they dont have my music collection stored on them |
| 07:57:21 | DreamTactix291 | please tell me you have a backup |
| 07:57:31 | Membrillo | DreamTactix291: nope i was just about to do one |
| 07:57:35 | DreamTactix291 | :| |
| 07:57:36 | lostlogic | Jungti1234: is that same problem also a rockbox H300 Optimized User? |
| 07:57:44 | DreamTactix291 | my music collection is backed up 3 times |
| 07:57:50 | DreamTactix291 | 2 lossless and 1 lossy |
| 07:57:51 | Jungti1234 | I don't know. |
| 07:58:11 | Jungti1234 | A/S! |
| 07:58:17 | Membrillo | lostlogic: is there a build you want to send me? |
| 07:58:40 | Membrillo | because i dont think its a build thing. sometimes the bootloader doesnt even come up |
| 07:58:42 | lostlogic | I'm beginning to fear that the patch that I asked needleboy to remove from H300 optimized might be part of the problem here, but won't have any verification unless Membrillo's player will boot at least partway from something |
| 07:58:43 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo, Go to iriverzone |
| 07:58:52 | lostlogic | Membrillo: yeah, will in 1s |
| 07:59:01 | lostlogic | Membrillo: let it rest still. |
| 07:59:06 | Membrillo | rest? |
| 07:59:08 | Membrillo | ok sure |
| 07:59:12 | Membrillo | its on charge now |
| 07:59:13 | Membrillo | but ok |
| 07:59:20 | lostlogic | yeah, just off, nothing plugged, nothing doing. |
| 07:59:37 | Membrillo | have done |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:28 | lostlogic | in the meantime, download http://lostlogicx.com:/transfer/rockbox.zip |
| 08:00:47 | Membrillo | okey doke |
| 08:01:34 | lostlogic | ok, try to get into either rockbox bootloader USB mode or iRiver USB mode and install that build |
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| 08:01:45 | lostlogic | recommend windows commandline unzip |
| 08:01:46 | | Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) |
| 08:01:48 | lostlogic | not GUI unzip |
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| 08:02:04 | Membrillo | how do i operate windows commandline unzip? |
| 08:02:19 | lostlogic | from commandline, navigate (with cd) to the location of rockbox.zip |
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| 08:02:24 | Membrillo | ok |
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| 08:02:31 | lostlogic | then do unzip -d DRIVE:\ rockbox.zip |
| 08:02:36 | lostlogic | where DRIVE is the drive letter of your iRiver |
| 08:03:12 | lostlogic | then try to boot the player into rockbox, start boot, and immediately on seeing bootloader, plug in. |
| 08:03:26 | Membrillo | plug in USB or AC? |
| 08:03:31 | lostlogic | AC |
| 08:03:59 | Membrillo | ummmm |
| 08:04:07 | Membrillo | i just plugged in the USB from off and it went to iriver |
| 08:04:23 | Jungti1234 | Didn't you find bug? |
| 08:04:32 | lostlogic | weird, but if you can get it to write the files, great. |
| 08:05:41 | Membrillo | ok, i couldnt work out commandline so i did it through winzip, but i put the files on there |
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| 08:05:48 | lostlogic | ok |
| 08:05:52 | Membrillo | so nopw |
| 08:05:53 | Membrillo | now* |
| 08:05:58 | Membrillo | hold play and plug in AC |
| 08:06:32 | lostlogic | yep |
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| 08:06:57 | Membrillo | so far so good |
| 08:07:06 | Membrillo | its in rockbox and hasnt shut off |
| 08:07:18 | Membrillo | ok |
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| 08:07:21 | Membrillo | i think thats fixed it |
| 08:07:27 | Membrillo | sounds like that patch is needed |
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| 08:07:35 | Membrillo | LOSTLOGIC YOU ARE A FREAKING GENIUS |
| 08:07:41 | lostlogic | can you poke at needleboy and have him remove my broken patch from h3x0 optimized |
| 08:07:55 | lostlogic | Membrillo: it was me that broke it in the first place, so don't send too much praise. |
| 08:08:01 | Membrillo | lol |
| 08:08:03 | Membrillo | still |
| 08:08:15 | Membrillo | on MR? |
| 08:08:31 | lostlogic | yarr, it'll overlap and break by tomorrow any way because I'm about to commit what I just sent you. |
| 08:09:04 | Membrillo | so i need to PM him or not?\ |
| 08:09:26 | lostlogic | up to you, I just hope other users don't end up in the same situ as you. |
| 08:09:32 | Membrillo | yeah |
| 08:09:35 | lostlogic | it should be non-terminal, but could be quite irritating. |
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| 08:11:06 | Membrillo | Lostlogic has asked if you could remove his broken battery patch from the optomized build as it causes A LOT of problems when the battery gets low (as i've just found out, coming close to killing my player). |
| 08:11:06 | Membrillo | If you could do it ASAP before more people get into nasty situations as I did, that would be good. |
| 08:11:17 | lostlogic | thanks |
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| 08:11:43 | Bger | morning :) |
| 08:11:45 | Bger | what patch ? |
| 08:11:49 | rok | @find pimsleur |
| 08:11:50 | Membrillo | done |
| 08:12:14 | lostlogic | was a patch that I'd posted on sourceforge that was a first whack at h3x0 charge control and reporting, and turns out to be 1) wrong and 2) possibly unhealthy |
| 08:12:33 | Bger | ah :) |
| 08:12:35 | Membrillo | my player got sick :( |
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| 08:12:58 | lostlogic | I have the reporting part about ready to commit (it's what Membrillo's running now) |
| 08:13:14 | Membrillo | needleboy is online now at MR so he should get that PM quickly |
| 08:13:34 | lostlogic | nice |
| 08:13:42 | Membrillo | ok time to do a backup of my harddrive!!!!!!! |
| 08:13:57 | Membrillo | now ive been in that situation i realise i have to do it ASAP |
| 08:13:58 | Bger | very good, lostlogic |
| 08:14:38 | lostlogic | Bger: what do you think about offering battery status to the GUI at 2hz instead of 1/60hz? Can look unsmooth, but it's what I prefer, and we have the info to offer it up every 2hz already. |
| 08:14:41 | Membrillo | lostlogic: why was that battery patch affecting the bootloader though? |
| 08:15:10 | Membrillo | i thought the build couldnt tamper with the bootloader at all? |
| 08:15:18 | lostlogic | Membrillo: it changes the state of the PCF50606 power management unit, I'm not sure exactly why it was making things unhappy, just some theories and conjectures. |
| 08:15:33 | Membrillo | ah ok |
| 08:15:42 | lostlogic | that's why it was important that you get just past bootloader into that new firmware I sent you as it resets the PCF50606 right. |
| 08:15:45 | Bger | lostlogic i'm not the one to make such decision... |
| 08:16:18 | lostlogic | Bger: just looking for an opinion to see if my preference is common, no 'authority' needed. |
| 08:16:37 | Membrillo | what is a good compression program thats good at making multi-volume archives? |
| 08:16:49 | lostlogic | rar is popular for windows users. |
| 08:16:54 | DreamTactix291 | yeah |
| 08:16:55 | lostlogic | winrar, but I believe it's pay |
| 08:16:59 | Bger | you mean 2 times/sec instead of 60 times/sec ? |
| 08:17:04 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:17:05 | Membrillo | ill turn my music collection into 3.7gb files then burn to DVDr |
| 08:17:08 | lostlogic | Bger: instead of 1 time per minute |
| 08:17:17 | Membrillo | winrar isnt pay |
| 08:17:31 | Membrillo | ill check it out |
| 08:17:33 | Membrillo | but now im off |
| 08:17:51 | Membrillo | once again lostlogic, thanks for saving my player, even if you did kinda kill it to begin with :P |
| 08:18:13 | lostlogic | Membrillo: np ;) |
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| 08:19:42 | amiconn | Afaik winrar is 30-day-trial shareware |
| 08:19:46 | lostlogic | amiconn: your opinion on the frequency of battery status updates? (2hz vs .0166hz) |
| 08:20:50 | Bger | amiconn but it works very well after the trial period |
| 08:21:16 | amiconn | I prefer software w/o nag screen. |
| 08:21:57 | amiconn | For windows: Filzip has good multivolume .zip support, and is freeware |
| 08:22:13 | Bger | but with worse compression |
| 08:22:22 | amiconn | It also unpacks .rar, .ice, .lzh, ... |
| 08:27:15 | BHSPitLappy | i love filzip |
| 08:27:39 | amiconn | lostlogic: There's a bug in the current sokoban |
| 08:27:41 | BHSPitLappy | you'll usually find it open on my windows pc... |
| 08:27:53 | lostlogic | amiconn: ? |
| 08:28:22 | amiconn | You can go past the last level with 'next level'. It then crashes... |
| 08:28:48 | amiconn | Also, I wonder why you seem to prefer literal values over named macros |
| 08:28:57 | lostlogic | whereat? |
| 08:29:06 | amiconn | There was #define SOKOBAN_LEVEL_SIZE (ROWS*COLS) |
| 08:29:42 | amiconn | This is now removed, and #define MAX_BUFFERED_BOARDS uses literat 16*20 instead |
| 08:29:49 | amiconn | *literal |
| 08:30:28 | amiconn | I'll check whether the crash happens on all targets, first test was on recv1 |
| 08:30:47 | lostlogic | oops, I removed that at one point in creating the level buffering and then in a later did it differently and didn't recreate the define. |
| 08:31:49 | lostlogic | iRiver "You WIN"s ok... so it must have to do with the bufferring next set code (as iRiver doesn't need to) |
| 08:33:58 | amiconn | In fact it's not a crash, sorry |
| 08:34:20 | lostlogic | just looks like one and freezes audio playback? |
| 08:34:25 | lostlogic | yeah, that should be done better. |
| 08:34:26 | amiconn | It just 'flashes' the 'you win' screen so damn fast that it's unreadable |
| 08:35:10 | amiconn | Seems like a good test for the lcd driver speed... |
| 08:35:14 | lostlogic | hehe |
| 08:37:15 | amiconn | Levels 1..76 are cached at once on recorder |
| 08:37:27 | lostlogic | yep |
| 08:38:06 | lostlogic | that takes 24k of RAM |
| 08:38:32 | lostlogic | so it would take like 34 to cache them all and would leave -2k for the plugin code on the smaller targets |
| 08:39:17 | amiconn | It takes less than 24K of RAM |
| 08:39:33 | amiconn | Ah, no |
| 08:39:57 | lostlogic | this time, I think my math was actually right :-P |
| 08:40:14 | * | amiconn seems to be not quite awake :/ |
| 08:40:22 | amiconn | Some remarks regarding charging on H300 |
| 08:40:42 | amiconn | I charged my H300 overnight while staying in the 'View IO ports' debug screen |
| 08:41:02 | amiconn | The battery got charged, and GPIO23 properly reflects end-of-charge |
| 08:41:19 | lostlogic | yeah, that's what the code I'm now feeling is 'ready' uses |
| 08:41:45 | Bger | amiconn you have h300 ?? |
| 08:43:27 | lostlogic | amiconn: just put in another revision of sokoban so that it sleeps at least a little on the You WIN and resurrected the symbolic name for level size |
| 08:44:15 | amiconn | Whoa, the 'you win' is real eye-strain on H300 |
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| 08:48:14 | lostlogic | amiconn: just put in the charge state for H3x0, if you'd like to review it. |
| 08:48:24 | lostlogic | (and then I must sleep) |
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| 08:57:02 | lostlogic | is the autobuild system totally linear? if so I must sleep before it's done building :-\ |
| 08:58:05 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 08:58:59 | Bger | lostlogic better go to bed;) |
| 08:59:46 | lostlogic | deepest apologies if I broke the targets I can't build here, will fix first thing if someone else hasn't. g'night. |
| 08:59:55 | Bger | nite |
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| 09:25:48 | amiconn | lostlogic: There is some potential for #ifdef reduction in your latest commit. Perhaps I should look into this, but it would need an fm recorder or recorder v2 owner to test this |
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| 09:42:17 | amiconn | I see RED :( |
| 09:43:03 | B4gder | red red red |
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| 09:51:08 | LinusN | major redness in the build table |
| 09:51:39 | LinusN | lostlogic: boooh |
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| 09:53:29 | linuxstb | Is anyone looking at the red builds? Seems that lostlogic has gone to bed... |
| 09:54:17 | LinusN | that kind of hit'n'run commits are not very appreciated |
| 09:56:11 | BHSPitLappy | red? |
| 09:57:18 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: See this page: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 09:58:00 | linuxstb | Every time someone commits a change to CVS, the server rebuilds all the Rockbox targets - red means that there was a fatal error and the build is broken. |
| 09:58:13 | BHSPitLappy | oh |
| 09:58:26 | linuxstb | We then all get to point accusingly at the person who committed that change... |
| 09:58:52 | B4gder | not to forget: the evil laughter ;-) |
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| 09:59:48 | needleboy | good morning |
| 09:59:54 | B4gder | hm |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:01 | B4gder | I'm not even sure how to fix the red for the FM |
| 10:00:27 | needleboy | could anyone please tell me what needs to be changed in plugins to fix the "incompatible model" error? |
| 10:00:44 | linuxstb | Just rebuild them? |
| 10:00:52 | B4gder | needleboy: use PLUGIN_HEADER |
| 10:00:53 | needleboy | yeah? that's it? |
| 10:01:14 | needleboy | B4gder: where :) |
| 10:01:20 | B4gder | there are like 30 examples to check |
| 10:01:24 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, my new UIE code tells me there's an address error in flac |
| 10:01:32 | preglow | linuxstb: probably in seektable load |
| 10:01:35 | linuxstb | Ah... |
| 10:01:50 | needleboy | examples? in the source you mean? |
| 10:01:54 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:01:56 | needleboy | i'll take a look at rockboy |
| 10:01:58 | B4gder | all the plugins are fixed |
| 10:01:59 | needleboy | thatnks |
| 10:02:05 | needleboy | i mean 3rd party plugins |
| 10:02:09 | B4gder | I know |
| 10:02:10 | needleboy | ok, i'll check thanks. |
| 10:02:19 | B4gder | but they are not our problem |
| 10:03:33 | needleboy | Timestamp |
| 10:03:33 | needleboy | 2006-01-19 08:11 3 8 8 8 8 8 0 8 8 0 0 8 8 3 8 0 8 8 8 0 8 8 8 0 0 8 0 0 8 8 0 0 8 8 |
| 10:03:35 | needleboy | wow |
| 10:03:38 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes, that sounds possible. The ipod is the first SWCODEC platform that chokes on unaligned memory accesses. So we have some fun ahead... |
| 10:05:26 | B4gder | at least unaligned access are clearly visible ;-) |
| 10:05:27 | linuxstb | preglow: I also had a moment of clarity last night - the "reboot-to-diskmode" code simply writes a string to the end of IRAM. The Nano/Video's IRAM is larger, so the string had to be written to a different address. |
| 10:05:59 | linuxstb | The Apple bootloader obviously checks for that string, and behaves accordingly. |
| 10:06:44 | preglow | linuxstb: yeah, noticed |
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| 10:06:46 | linuxstb | So we could do the same in our bootloader - if you want "reboot-to-diskmode" to go to the retailos on the Nano, then we can write a string to a different address in IRAM, and check for it in the bootloader. |
| 10:07:07 | preglow | but yo, perhaps we should extend the real iram limits in the linker scripts for nano/video as well? |
| 10:07:10 | preglow | i want to use :-) |
| 10:07:13 | linuxstb | It seems that usb detection in the bootloader breaks loading retailos. |
| 10:07:29 | preglow | haha |
| 10:07:32 | preglow | nice build table |
| 10:07:58 | preglow | are someone fixing it? |
| 10:08:10 | B4gder | its over my head |
| 10:08:20 | B4gder | I know too little about the charging/batteries |
| 10:08:32 | * | linuxstb knows less than B4gder |
| 10:12:25 | preglow | then i've half a mind to just undo it |
| 10:12:46 | preglow | might be a while until he comes back on |
| 10:13:48 | B4gder | yeah, I agree unless someone feels like taking a stab at a fix |
| 10:14:15 | preglow | i can take a stab at something that just makes it compile, alright |
| 10:14:24 | preglow | god knows what it'll end up doing |
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| 10:15:56 | preglow | charger_input_state is defined in a HAVE_CHARGING cage |
| 10:16:06 | preglow | perhaps i just need to apply that around uses of it as well |
| 10:16:28 | LinusN | sounds fair |
| 10:16:55 | B4gder | no, the fix needs more than so |
| 10:17:34 | B4gder | in the FMrec build, TRICKLE is undefined |
| 10:17:49 | B4gder | since it is only defined if HAVE_CHARGE_CTRL is defined |
| 10:18:15 | LinusN | B4gder: that's a different thing |
| 10:18:20 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:18:25 | B4gder | but still a reason for red |
| 10:18:50 | LinusN | i wonder why CONFIG_BATTERY == BATT_LIION220 is used all over |
| 10:19:01 | LinusN | what does the battery type have to do with it? |
| 10:19:52 | preglow | but yeah, it builds with that change, of course |
| 10:20:03 | preglow | so, restore or fix? |
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| 10:23:21 | LinusN | fix |
| 10:23:37 | B4gder | get more coffee! |
| 10:25:30 | preglow | ok, i'll just commit a simple ifdef |
| 10:25:50 | linuxstb | Have you tested the diskmode fix on your Nano yet? It worked on the Video, so I just assumed it would work on the Nano. |
| 10:26:48 | preglow | hmm, will later, need to check up some things |
| 10:27:09 | linuxstb | np |
| 10:31:03 | BHSPitLappy | i can test. |
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| 10:34:50 | Lynx_ | charging a h340 via usb is slower than via wall socket, right? |
| 10:35:00 | honkster | Hello, which Language? |
| 10:35:05 | honkster | English? |
| 10:35:26 | honkster | Can anyone helo me with my Rockbox Problems? |
| 10:35:42 | Bger | Lynx_ way slower |
| 10:35:51 | Bger | honkster shoto |
| 10:35:55 | Bger | shoot |
| 10:36:05 | Lynx_ | Bger: ok |
| 10:36:24 | honkster | excuse me, I´m a real newbie |
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| 10:39:06 | honkster | my Player freezes when starting Playback mode and doesn`t show any folder |
| 10:39:19 | linuxstb | What player do you have? |
| 10:39:27 | honkster | iHP140 |
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| 10:40:52 | linuxstb | What do you mean by "playback mode" ? How do you get there? |
| 10:42:21 | honkster | after boot, theres got to be the Folder list, and after pressing the "Play" button the player freezes and shows only a msgbox with "loading" in it |
| 10:42:52 | Membrillo | linuxstb: maybe a problem with playlist_control? |
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| 10:48:42 | markun | honkster: can you play a song by just clicking on it? |
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| 10:50:30 | preglow | bah, i didn't notice the TRICKLE bugs |
| 10:50:57 | preglow | i've just had some bad news and need to go for a while, could someone else deal with that? |
| 10:53:14 | Bger | preglow go |
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| 11:04:44 | honkster | sorry, i´ll be back in 5 min |
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| 11:15:25 | Bger | nearly green table :) |
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| 11:26:37 | Bger | so, fm recorder doesn't have charging control ? |
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| 11:33:04 | amiconn | Bger: FM recorder has LiIon, so it has hw charging, but it as charging state detection, like the H300 |
| 11:34:03 | Bger | aha |
| 11:34:07 | Bger | uf |
| 11:35:30 | amiconn | This is what I mean with #ifdef consolidation |
| 11:38:40 | Bger | heh i need for sure more understanding of cvs |
| 11:56:29 | Bger | uf :( |
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| 12:00:02 | Membrillo | linuxstb: if you read the logs, the problem with my irivers power issue happened again when the voltage dropped to around 3.8v. Ive saved it by charging back up, but its still quite a problem |
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| 12:05:03 | Membrillo | i think some work needs to be done on the H300 power mgmt |
| 12:09:12 | dwihno | Anyone got an idea about a multi-flash reader that works under linux? |
| 12:09:18 | dwihno | (if there is such a thing, that is) |
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| 12:28:23 | XavierGr | Bger here? |
| 12:30:37 | Bger | XavierGr yep :) |
| 12:30:57 | XavierGr | I updated again my patch, with all the thinks that we talked about. |
| 12:31:31 | Bger | link ?:) |
| 12:31:34 | XavierGr | ^things |
| 12:31:58 | XavierGr | one moment please both sourceforge and my connetction are like turtles |
| 12:33:32 | XavierGr | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1357370&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 12:34:34 | XavierGr | also a guy that had an H300 applied my patch and used the plugin, while it worked okay when he was trying to load another plugin (while the benchmark was running) the player simply crashed. But in my H140 as hard as I could I couldn't crash it that way. |
| 12:35:17 | XavierGr | Theoritically if the user loads another plugin the tsr one will just quit. Something must by fishy with the H300 code. |
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| 12:36:04 | Bger | XavierGr i'll look at this |
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| 12:42:40 | XavierGr | gawk, date, finger, wait, unzip, touch, nice, suck, strip, mount, fsck, umount, make clean, sleep: Who needs sex when you have /usr/bin? |
| 12:42:43 | XavierGr | lol |
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| 12:46:09 | B4gder | suck? |
| 12:46:16 | BHSPitLappy | anyone here familiar with font conversion? |
| 12:46:48 | B4gder | there's no suck in my /usr/bin anywhere |
| 12:47:16 | B4gder | BHSPitLappy: ask not if you can ask |
| 12:47:27 | B4gder | just ask and you'll find out |
| 12:47:37 | BHSPitLappy | well it's a longshot anyway :P |
| 12:48:12 | BHSPitLappy | converting a bdf to a fnt, wondering if i'm supposed to set a fixed font size somewhere |
| 12:48:20 | B4gder | nope |
| 12:48:25 | B4gder | the bdf contains the size |
| 12:48:37 | BHSPitLappy | hmm |
| 12:48:54 | BHSPitLappy | i converted a ttf to bdf (didn't prompt for size) |
| 12:49:14 | BHSPitLappy | my output fnt is double the file size of the other fonts that i know to work |
| 12:49:38 | preglow | that's where you need to input size |
| 12:49:39 | BHSPitLappy | and it's unsuccessful, the reading program says it might be truncated |
| 12:49:41 | preglow | ttf->bdf |
| 12:49:57 | preglow | bdf is a raster format, ttf a vector format |
| 12:50:10 | BHSPitLappy | ah |
| 12:50:12 | B4gder | ttf => bdf without a given size seems... weird |
| 12:50:18 | BHSPitLappy | wasn't sure if bdf was scalable or not |
| 12:50:20 | preglow | and completely arbitrary |
| 12:50:23 | preglow | bdf is not scalable |
| 12:50:28 | preglow | at least not unless i'm on crack |
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| 12:50:35 | BHSPitLappy | oh weird... |
| 12:50:38 | B4gder | its a bitmap format |
| 12:50:47 | BHSPitLappy | preglow: i think you are |
| 12:50:48 | B4gder | load the .bdf format in your text editor and see ;-) |
| 12:50:50 | preglow | cool |
| 12:50:56 | BHSPitLappy | since the ttf-bdf converter has size options |
| 12:51:04 | BHSPitLappy | B4gder: how :P |
| 12:51:08 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 12:51:13 | BHSPitLappy | i don't know how to test any of them |
| 12:51:18 | preglow | just load it |
| 12:51:24 | Jungti1234 | needleboy.net/files/scrsh1.jpg">http://needleboy.net/files/scrsh1.jpg |
| 12:51:25 | preglow | notepad hehe.bdf |
| 12:51:29 | B4gder | you don't "test it" by loading it in a text editor |
| 12:51:33 | BHSPitLappy | ok. |
| 12:51:37 | B4gder | you just view the bdf file |
| 12:51:42 | Jungti1234 | How can I do equally with the thing? |
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| 12:52:14 | preglow | god, that colour hack is ugly |
| 12:52:33 | Jungti1234 | -> How can I do equally with that? |
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| 12:55:50 | mattpwest | Hi, everybody. It's my first time here, I'm interested in helping to port Rockbox to the iAudio X5. |
| 12:56:55 | B4gder | hey mattpwest |
| 12:57:23 | BHSPitLappy | ok |
| 12:57:33 | BHSPitLappy | so all that information the .bdf tells me |
| 12:57:52 | BHSPitLappy | is there some possible way to view those attributes of the .fnt files that i know to work? |
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| 12:57:55 | BHSPitLappy | so i can compare |
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| 12:58:43 | B4gder | I figure you can compare with exsting and working fonts |
| 12:58:51 | B4gder | or read the convbdf source |
| 12:58:55 | preglow | mattpwest: so, what can you do? |
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| 13:00:16 | mattpwest | I have some experience with C/C++, but not much on the assembler side. |
| 13:00:25 | preglow | c will do nicely |
| 13:00:51 | steveb | i just saw the option for cpu freq in the config settings... |
| 13:00:58 | steveb | would changing that be a really bad idea? |
| 13:01:08 | preglow | no, but it would be a waste of battery |
| 13:01:16 | steveb | oh yeh? |
| 13:01:29 | preglow | cpus don't work harder for free |
| 13:01:41 | steveb | yeh i guess. |
| 13:01:54 | steveb | and thinking about it i cant think why i would need it to run faster |
| 13:01:56 | BHSPitLappy | cpu slavery... |
| 13:02:14 | preglow | steveb: rockbox uses the higher cpu freq itself all the time |
| 13:02:22 | preglow | steveb: when doing stuff like decoding |
| 13:02:27 | steveb | ah right |
| 13:02:43 | preglow | but if you change it yourself, rockbox will run at a higher freq all the time |
| 13:03:10 | steveb | ok next question: in that flipper plugin game thing, how do you actually win? ive been playing it for ages and im still left with 1 damn thing the wrong way around. |
| 13:03:20 | preglow | if you start playback, then look in the cpu freq screen, you will see that it changes all the time |
| 13:03:35 | preglow | flipper? |
| 13:03:53 | steveb | flipit* |
| 13:04:50 | B4gder | mattpwest: for high level programmers, making sure the sim builds and works is a very good step as then things will work easier once the bootloader and low-level hw things are setup |
| 13:05:28 | B4gder | and once the sim works, you can work on "regular" rockbox stuff |
| 13:05:49 | B4gder | doing plugins, adding better color support or whatever |
| 13:06:11 | mattpwest | i submitted a patch yesterday to get the uisimulator working for the X5. It compiles and runs now, but doesn't do much else (doesn't respond to keypresses except for printing keycodes). not sure what needs to be done next... |
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| 13:06:47 | B4gder | it should respond... |
| 13:08:07 | mattpwest | then i probably got something wrong, will look at it some more tonight. |
| 13:08:38 | B4gder | it was me who committed your first patch |
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| 13:10:04 | ST | hey guys, do you have a link to the 'ROCKbox colormap' |
| 13:10:46 | B4gder | mattpwest: is there a second patch I should apply to make things work? |
| 13:11:07 | ST | im trying to edit the PaulJam 2.2.2 wps, with MegaVolt's Color WPS |
| 13:11:08 | B4gder | the one in entry 1408980 doesn't apply |
| 13:12:02 | B4gder | I don't know about any "colormap" |
| 13:12:17 | mattpwest | i omitted 3 files from my patch (me stupid), so i removed the uploaded patch yesterday and replace it with a fixed one that contains everything... |
| 13:12:31 | ST | megavolts colour wps patch that is, which is in the optimized build, ok, how would i edit the wps, colour values |
| 13:13:03 | B4gder | mattpwest: but I already committed the first version, so now the new version conflicts massively against cvs |
| 13:13:31 | B4gder | ST: the "optimized" build is not our baby |
| 13:13:49 | preglow | the "optimized" build looks like a bag of shit |
| 13:14:15 | mattpwest | sorry, i'm new to cvs, should i replace it with the original and just add a second patch with the stuff i missed? |
| 13:14:44 | B4gder | mattpwest: the easiest approach (for us) is if you just make a new patch against what currently is in CVS |
| 13:15:07 | B4gder | most likely you just cvs update and cvs diff |
| 13:15:14 | mattpwest | ok, will do that... |
| 13:15:20 | ST | B4gder: ok calm down, thx for your help |
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| 13:15:43 | * | B4gder is as calm as a... herring |
| 13:15:51 | preglow | and by god, they're calm |
| 13:15:54 | preglow | cool too |
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| 13:17:20 | preglow | linuxstb: i get a prefetch abort some place in flac_init |
| 13:17:36 | linuxstb | What's a prefetch abort? |
| 13:17:41 | preglow | ehh, i mean data abort |
| 13:17:48 | preglow | it's probably an unaligned access |
| 13:17:50 | linuxstb | You mean an unaligned memory access? |
| 13:17:58 | preglow | arm doesn't tell me what it is |
| 13:18:04 | preglow | just that something happen in a data fetch/store |
| 13:18:24 | B4gder | but there really shouldn't be many other options |
| 13:18:54 | preglow | nope |
| 13:19:07 | preglow | B4gder: perhaps you can tell me what a prefetch abort is? |
| 13:19:11 | preglow | i can't seem to find out |
| 13:19:15 | linuxstb | preglow: I'll have a look. It wouldn't surprise me to see unaligned memory accesses. |
| 13:19:22 | linuxstb | Have you tried the other codecs? |
| 13:19:26 | preglow | yeah, they work |
| 13:19:43 | preglow | gimme a sec and i'll find you an address where stuff goes wrong |
| 13:19:55 | linuxstb | That's OK - I'll just read through and review the code. |
| 13:19:57 | B4gder | "If the instruction being executed was read in error, then it is flagged as causing a Prefetch Abort," |
| 13:20:07 | preglow | "read in error" ? |
| 13:20:10 | preglow | what's that? |
| 13:20:29 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you get anywhere with the dircache? |
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| 13:20:45 | preglow | linuxstb: here it is anyway, 0x01f00240 |
| 13:20:53 | B4gder | "A Prefetch Abort occurs when you've attempted to execute code at an invalid memory address." |
| 13:20:59 | preglow | amiconn found out where the error was |
| 13:21:03 | linuxstb | What function is that in your .map ? |
| 13:21:05 | preglow | from some address i gave him |
| 13:21:08 | preglow | flac_init, like i said |
| 13:21:18 | preglow | B4gder: what's an invalid memory address? |
| 13:21:34 | Jungti1234 | B4gder: I want to make Korean Rockbox website. |
| 13:21:41 | linuxstb | preglow: OK, thanks. |
| 13:21:59 | Jungti1234 | B4gder: May I do it? |
| 13:22:29 | preglow | linuxstb: not all files crash, so i'm guessing it's a seek table issue |
| 13:22:42 | B4gder | preglow: without MMU I can't think of many illegal addresses... |
| 13:22:49 | preglow | B4gder: exactly |
| 13:23:01 | preglow | but i did manage to provoke one |
| 13:23:11 | preglow | just jumping to an arbitrary address, it did eventually give me one |
| 13:23:23 | preglow | i guess perhaps i ran into some io ports |
| 13:24:06 | preglow | B4gder: should i handle the reserved exception as well, or will i never ever see that? |
| 13:25:35 | B4gder | I don't know |
| 13:25:50 | B4gder | Jungti1234: what exactly does that mean? |
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| 13:27:15 | Jungti1234 | B4gder: I want to make to new website that translating contents of Rockbox website in Korean. |
| 13:27:44 | Jungti1234 | Many Koreans want it too. |
| 13:28:06 | B4gder | Jungti1234: then go ahead. It'll be a hopeless race, since most of the site is the wiki and the wiki will change forever |
| 13:28:26 | Jungti1234 | hmm. ok |
| 13:28:43 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: i think i fixed the bug you found in the downloader |
| 13:28:54 | Jungti1234 | We are going to use wiki too. |
| 13:29:01 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo: ok |
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| 13:29:55 | Bger | yay, green line |
| 13:30:33 | B4gder | green is good |
| 13:31:23 | mattpwest | B4gder: i've added the a patch x5_keys_missing.patch to the tracker, with only current differences. |
| 13:33:09 | B4gder | applied fine |
| 13:34:25 | * | B4gder runs it, over wireless, ssh, adsl, cygwinX |
| 13:34:34 | Bger | wow :) |
| 13:34:53 | B4gder | nice gibberish logo |
| 13:35:07 | B4gder | mattpwest: you run it with sdl? |
| 13:35:12 | linuxstb | preglow: I don't have my ipod with me, but here is a patch if you want to test it: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/flac.diff |
| 13:35:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | B4gder: Is SDL working properly under cygwin now then? |
| 13:35:49 | preglow | yeah, i figured that was the error as well |
| 13:35:53 | B4gder | I don't know, I don't build with cygwin |
| 13:35:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh |
| 13:35:58 | mattpwest | yes |
| 13:36:22 | B4gder | just forced to sit in front of windows at work |
| 13:36:54 | ashridah | Paul_The_Nerd: it's better than it was |
| 13:37:01 | B4gder | mattpwest: I couldn't get the menu to appear either ;-) |
| 13:37:04 | ashridah | Paul_The_Nerd: there's some issue i don't know enough about to fix |
| 13:37:16 | ashridah | and i've been kinda busy since i ported the threading to SDL's |
| 13:37:23 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: AFAIK, it's still broken. The main problem is the "#if WIN32" conditionals in the firmware/ directory - which are meant for the win32 sim, but apply to the sdl sim under windows as well. |
| 13:37:33 | preglow | linuxstb: no crash, but it doesn't play |
| 13:37:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah. |
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| 13:38:08 | preglow | i think there's a "codec error" flashing in from time to time |
| 13:38:16 | Membrillo | linuxstb: my iriver is still having power issues |
| 13:38:30 | Jungti1234 | Paprica |
| 13:38:37 | linuxstb | Membrillo: I don't know why you are telling me - I know nothing about power issues... |
| 13:38:41 | Paprica | ? |
| 13:38:55 | Membrillo | linuxstb: wasnt it you i was talking to earlier about it? |
| 13:39:01 | linuxstb | Nope. :) |
| 13:39:02 | Jungti1234 | Paprica: I found bug |
| 13:39:10 | Membrillo | ah that was lostlogic. sorry my mistake |
| 13:39:24 | Membrillo | lostlogic: if your here, im still having power issues |
| 13:39:25 | Paprica | where? |
| 13:39:36 | Jungti1234 | In BrickMania |
| 13:39:52 | Paprica | ... |
| 13:40:04 | Membrillo | lostlogic |
| 13:40:06 | Membrillo | you here? |
| 13:40:42 | Jungti1234 | Paprica: If ball goes to right, there is bug that don't come out yet. |
| 13:41:16 | Paprica | mm |
| 13:41:21 | Jungti1234 | and |
| 13:41:25 | Paprica | i will check it |
| 13:41:57 | Bger | Jungti1234 is the korean's Brightness ok now ? |
| 13:42:02 | Jungti1234 | yes :) |
| 13:42:06 | Bger | k |
| 13:42:06 | Jungti1234 | thank you |
| 13:42:20 | Bger | for nothing |
| 13:42:25 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 13:42:38 | petur | Bger: care to look at the brightness bugfix patch in the tracker? |
| 13:43:01 | Bger | petur link ? |
| 13:43:10 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/x5sim.png |
| 13:43:16 | B4gder | neat logo huh? ;-) |
| 13:43:21 | petur | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1404233&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 13:43:28 | Bger | 10x |
| 13:43:45 | linuxstb | preglow: Can you try adding "#define CONFIG_ALIGN 1" at the top of libffmpegFLAC/bitstream.h ? |
| 13:44:06 | preglow | and retain your patch? |
| 13:44:17 | linuxstb | Yes. The patch is needed anyway I think. |
| 13:44:36 | linuxstb | I don't use the ffmpeg bitstream reader in my metadata parsing code. |
| 13:45:17 | * | linuxstb thinks a Rockbox optimised bitstream reader library could be a nice project for someone... |
| 13:45:28 | B4gder | mattpwest: committed! |
| 13:45:29 | petur | Bger: and while you're at SF, this patch is obsolete: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1379581&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 13:45:35 | preglow | linuxstb: no dice |
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| 13:45:55 | preglow | and yeah, the file that did work before is now broken |
| 13:46:04 | preglow | so something new happened in your patch |
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| 13:46:24 | linuxstb | That's odd. My patch should (at worse) just break seeking. |
| 13:46:25 | Bger | petur ah, yes :) |
| 13:46:36 | preglow | ahh, we'll see |
| 13:46:49 | preglow | linuxstb: you know how long retailos takes before it dumps ram to disk? |
| 13:47:32 | linuxstb | No. I think it's the equivalent of the old "deep sleep" - so maybe 36 hours. I'm sure someone in #ipl will know. |
| 13:47:36 | Rob2222_ | i didnt manage to compile gcc4.2.2 for m68k-elf under cygwin.... andy great hints? |
| 13:47:54 | Jungti1234 | Paprica |
| 13:48:02 | Jungti1234 | Paprica: Stop game and go to 'Help' menu, can't resume game again. |
| 13:48:04 | Paprica | ? |
| 13:48:23 | B4gder | mattpwest: I got the menu to pop-up fine in the sdl sim |
| 13:48:31 | B4gder | by holding INS |
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| 13:48:55 | Rob2222 | gcc 4.0.2 i mean |
| 13:49:15 | preglow | 36? damn, that's a lot |
| 13:49:25 | preglow | a ton of time to keep the ram powered |
| 13:49:42 | linuxstb | My memory is hazy - best to ask someone who knows. |
| 13:49:47 | Paprica | Jungti1234, for me its ok |
| 13:49:54 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 13:50:13 | Jungti1234 | Paprica, Did you fix it? |
| 13:50:26 | Paprica | you have the last version |
| 13:50:30 | Paprica | ? |
| 13:50:47 | Jungti1234 | Last version can't use. |
| 13:50:54 | | Quit petur ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") |
| 13:50:57 | Jungti1234 | Don't work. |
| 13:51:12 | Jungti1234 | oops |
| 13:51:15 | linuxstb | Rob2222: gcc 4 isn't recommended for m68k - it generates slower code than 3.4.x. Is there any reason you want it? |
| 13:51:17 | Jungti1234 | wait |
| 13:52:19 | Jungti1234 | Paprica, It has problem. |
| 13:52:27 | Paprica | ? |
| 13:54:08 | Jungti1234 | You try directly. |
| 13:54:20 | linuxstb | preglow: Checking the ipl IRC logs, it seems to be 12 hours before the suspend-to-disk mode kicks in. |
| 13:54:23 | Rob2222 | linuxstb: only as second envvironment for testin purposes |
| 13:55:03 | Paprica | i need to compile it again |
| 13:55:17 | Jungti1234 | start new game, and press 'stop' button, and go to 'help' menu and press 'stop' button again, go to resume game |
| 13:55:22 | Paprica | i will do it in a few secs |
| 13:55:42 | Paprica | mins** |
| 13:56:08 | Paprica | ohhh |
| 13:56:09 | Paprica | ok isee |
| 13:56:12 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 13:56:20 | Rob2222 | its reporting something with the multilibs, but not the error in the wiki described. may i post 4 lines here? |
| 13:56:37 | Jungti1234 | Paprica, Can't it save game? |
| 13:56:58 | Paprica | not yet |
| 13:57:09 | Paprica | i dont have a time to do it now |
| 13:57:15 | Paprica | in the week end |
| 13:57:16 | mattpwest | B4gder: :-) cool, thanks |
| 13:57:20 | Jungti1234 | I found in Rockbox that continuation button operates strangely. |
| 13:57:28 | Rob2222 | ah, now i read, istn recommended for 48k |
| 13:57:38 | Rob2222 | 68k |
| 13:57:49 | Jungti1234 | If press '>> l' button, do function of 'Stop' button. |
| 13:57:54 | Rob2222 | ok, for arm its working |
| 13:58:44 | linuxstb | Yes, the current recommendations seem to be 3.4.5 for m68k, and 4.0.2 for arm. |
| 13:58:47 | Jungti1234 | >>l and - too |
| 13:58:56 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 14:00 |
| 14:01:44 | markun | linuxstb: can you explain how the remapping of SDRAM address to 0 works? I was looking at the code in crt0.S but can't figure it out |
| 14:02:03 | linuxstb | It's magic. |
| 14:02:17 | steveb | does the usb bootloader actually work on the h300? i plugged my usb cable in, it turns on and loads to usb bootloader mode but my linux doesnt get any messages about usb devices being found or anything |
| 14:02:39 | linuxstb | markun: I don't think even the IPL people know how it works, and that's where preglow stole it from. |
| 14:02:45 | Bger | steveb linus said something like "it sometimes work, sometimes doesn't" |
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| 14:03:01 | steveb | oh right |
| 14:03:03 | steveb | fair enough |
| 14:03:17 | Membrillo | there are some major power issues in the H300 optomized build that arent in the official builds |
| 14:03:26 | markun | hm.. because I was wondering how I should do that on the gigabeat. |
| 14:03:26 | linuxstb | That's know. |
| 14:03:33 | linuxstb | I mean that's known |
| 14:03:39 | steveb | Membrillo: like what? |
| 14:04:03 | linuxstb | I think the optimized build contains a broken version of lostlogic's patch - he's asked for it to be removed, but I don't know if it has. |
| 14:04:09 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo: http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/19/161/PICT6530.jpg |
| 14:04:17 | Membrillo | if your player drops down to around 3.8v, you cant load rockbox and even getting stability in the original firmware is hard |
| 14:04:23 | Membrillo | it hasnt |
| 14:04:43 | linuxstb | Then don't use it - use an official build. |
| 14:04:50 | Membrillo | am doing now |
| 14:04:53 | Membrillo | just warning people |
| 14:05:19 | Membrillo | its quite tricky to fix if you get stuck in the situation where your power is below 3.8v |
| 14:05:33 | amiconn | steveb, Bger: This H300 bootloader USB mode problem is strange - it allways works here |
| 14:05:40 | amiconn | *always |
| 14:05:44 | Membrillo | so either keep above 4v or use an official build for now |
| 14:08:42 | Membrillo | amiconn: works for me too. Its been found that its to do with usb charging being turned on or off in the iRiver FW |
| 14:09:06 | steveb | Membrillo: my voltage is at 3.6 apprently and i use the H300 optimised... seems to work fine |
| 14:09:17 | Membrillo | what build do you have? |
| 14:09:22 | Membrillo | latest? |
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| 14:09:43 | Membrillo | i wouldnt go much lower if you want to avoid possible problems |
| 14:09:59 | amiconn | Membrillo: Really? Didn't try that yet |
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| 14:10:38 | Membrillo | it would make sense, and ive read about it on MR |
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| 14:11:20 | Membrillo | i guess the iRiver FW sets USB to charge and the bootloader USB mode just follows that |
| 14:11:58 | amiconn | It would be strange though. Iiuc the rockbox bootloader takes over directly at boot |
| 14:12:17 | mattpwest | B4gder: what else can i work on for the x5 port |
| 14:12:29 | Membrillo | hmmm maybe my battery is just stuffing up |
| 14:12:40 | Membrillo | its at full charge and randomly turning off sometimes |
| 14:13:43 | Mongey | does anyone wanna help me with a school project, _ to make a stp/go sign with a time delay so that it stays on stop on a few seconds then turns around to go |
| 14:13:47 | Membrillo | now my iriver kind of, isnt turning on at all |
| 14:14:05 | Membrillo | mongey i could make that on Visual basic easy |
| 14:14:33 | Membrillo | so i just swaps the images after a set amount of time? |
| 14:14:55 | Mongey | well kinda |
| 14:15:00 | Mongey | but not images |
| 14:15:07 | Mongey | like i have to make it |
| 14:15:09 | Membrillo | not images? |
| 14:15:12 | Membrillo | oh ok |
| 14:15:17 | Membrillo | with lines and text etc? |
| 14:15:18 | preglow | markun: i've got some info on how it works |
| 14:15:23 | preglow | markun: haven't looked at it in a while |
| 14:15:40 | Membrillo | Mongey: were you asked to make in on Visual Basic or C or what? |
| 14:15:41 | preglow | who the hell is compiling these "optimized" builds anyway? |
| 14:15:49 | Membrillo | needleboy is |
| 14:16:51 | markun | preglow: is the info available online? |
| 14:16:56 | preglow | markun: no |
| 14:17:05 | Membrillo | if my iriver is randomly turning off all the time, would you say its a battery or harddrive problem? |
| 14:17:17 | preglow | i think i've got it in my notes somewhere |
| 14:17:26 | Membrillo | randomly turning off and occasionally not turning on |
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| 14:18:32 | preglow | markun: why're you wondering anyway? it wont work on gigabeat |
| 14:18:35 | Membrillo | anyone? |
| 14:19:04 | Mongey | Membrillo; like this http://www.halifax.ca/traffic/images/ra1.gif <<< as in build a sign out of steel and i need a circuit |
| 14:19:38 | markun | preglow: I thought maybe it could be done in a similar way on the gigabeat |
| 14:19:54 | Mongey | like as in limit switches... ect. But im not sure |
| 14:19:54 | Membrillo | Mongey: oh you have to physically make it haha. i thought you meant a program :P |
| 14:20:04 | Mongey | lol |
| 14:20:17 | preglow | markun: yeah, but i doubt this'll help you much, it's a completely pp specific thing |
| 14:20:20 | Mongey | anyone know? |
| 14:20:24 | preglow | i can paste you the info on the reg layout if you want, thouigh |
| 14:20:27 | preglow | though |
| 14:20:38 | markun | nah, it's ok |
| 14:20:58 | preglow | i don't think very many arm4 cores support memory remapping |
| 14:20:59 | markun | I'll just search some more in the documentation I have here |
| 14:21:16 | preglow | isn't ram mapped at 0x0 for gigabeat? |
| 14:21:31 | markun | no, flash memory is |
| 14:21:34 | preglow | ouch |
| 14:21:49 | preglow | where do exception vectors point by default? |
| 14:22:05 | Membrillo | lostlogic are you here now? |
| 14:23:02 | Membrillo | oh well. im pretty sure my battery is McBuggered |
| 14:23:14 | Mongey | Membrillo; are you the person who made the auto download thing? |
| 14:23:21 | markun | in the original firmware the exception vectors are at the start of the flash rom, but some other are later copied to the start of SDRAM, so I should also be able to find how they do the translation |
| 14:23:25 | Membrillo | Mongey:yep |
| 14:23:40 | Membrillo | Mongey: tis me |
| 14:23:58 | Mongey | Membrillo; love that program.. but it crashed on me alot |
| 14:24:05 | Membrillo | it does? |
| 14:24:06 | Membrillo | how so? |
| 14:24:12 | Mongey | well it did |
| 14:24:22 | Membrillo | it doesnt now? |
| 14:24:25 | Mongey | just froze up on 96% |
| 14:24:32 | Mongey | not anymore |
| 14:24:34 | Membrillo | oh, how strange |
| 14:24:48 | Membrillo | ohhhh thats probably because it was unzipping |
| 14:24:56 | Membrillo | it used to freeze momentarily when unzipping |
| 14:25:03 | Membrillo | i fixed that though |
| 14:25:04 | Mongey | well i got the newer one 2day and everything is ok |
| 14:25:16 | Membrillo | good to hear :) |
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| 14:26:36 | amiconn | markun: Iiuc the RAM is remapped to 0x0 b/c ARM7 doesn't have a vector base register, so the vector table is always at 0x0. Is it the same with ARM9 ? |
| 14:26:46 | Mongey | anyone have experience with electronical circuits? |
| 14:27:04 | Mongey | also anyone know where i can learn C? |
| 14:27:04 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo |
| 14:27:08 | markun | amiconn: I thought so, but let me check |
| 14:27:11 | Membrillo | yep |
| 14:27:13 | preglow | amiconn: no arms have vector base registers |
| 14:27:14 | preglow | afaik |
| 14:27:29 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo: There seems to be another bug. |
| 14:27:36 | Membrillo | mongey, study the rockbox source. Start in the plugins |
| 14:27:41 | Membrillo | another? |
| 14:27:49 | Membrillo | what is it |
| 14:28:09 | Mongey | Membok |
| 14:28:13 | Mongey | lol |
| 14:28:19 | Bger | sh.t |
| 14:28:28 | Mongey | that was suppoded to be Membrillo; ok |
| 14:28:38 | Membrillo | lol ok |
| 14:28:39 | Bger | wtf iriver are giving the firmware in an exe file |
| 14:28:52 | ashridah | Mongey: www.iso-9899.info has various links and recommendations about books that'll help in the C department |
| 14:29:00 | Membrillo | Bger: yeah i dont understand that either. the self extractor thing? |
| 14:29:05 | Bger | yep |
| 14:29:13 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo: I canceled check of 'Save Sattings on Exit and Load Settings on Open'. But, it loads saved continuously setting. |
| 14:29:27 | Jungti1234 | -> But, it loads saved setting continuously. |
| 14:29:31 | Membrillo | really? doesnt with me |
| 14:30:02 | Membrillo | Mongey: if you cancel save settings on my updater, does it work? |
| 14:30:20 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: im not sure what problem your having. it works fine for me |
| 14:30:25 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 14:30:43 | Bger | wtf zip -> exe -> hex .... |
| 14:30:48 | Jungti1234 | um!! |
| 14:31:04 | Membrillo | how much are Newertech batteries going for these days in AUD? |
| 14:31:24 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo: Wasn't bug that I spoke at new version fixed? |
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| 14:31:50 | Membrillo | the date bug was fixed |
| 14:31:53 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 14:31:55 | markun | amiconn: The 920 can be set to have the vector starts at either 0x0000 0000 or 0xFFFF 0000 |
| 14:32:16 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo: Bug that unzip doesn't become |
| 14:32:42 | Jungti1234 | -> Bug that doesn't auto unzip. |
| 14:32:54 | Membrillo | unzip works for me, but i think i worked out what might be causing you problems and i fixed it |
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| 14:33:14 | Membrillo | tomorrow or the day after i will release 5.2 |
| 14:33:20 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 14:33:27 | Membrillo | and it will fix that |
| 14:33:48 | preglow | markun: how, by some outside pin? |
| 14:33:55 | markun | yes |
| 14:34:05 | preglow | i'd guess that's hardwired on the board |
| 14:34:24 | Jungti1234 | Membrillo: I talked 2 bug to you. |
| 14:34:24 | markun | can the remapping be done by the mmu? |
| 14:34:31 | preglow | do you have an mmu? |
| 14:34:36 | preglow | if so, then yes, you probably can |
| 14:34:49 | Jungti1234 | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−- |
| 14:34:49 | Jungti1234 | Missing Location |
| 14:34:49 | Jungti1234 | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−- |
| 14:34:49 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Jungti1234 |
| 14:34:49 | Jungti1234 | Please Choose Unzip Destination |
| 14:34:49 | Jungti1234 | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−- |
| 14:34:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 14:34:50 | Jungti1234 | È®ÀÎ |
| 14:34:52 | Jungti1234 | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−- |
| 14:34:54 | Jungti1234 | oops sorry |
| 14:35:03 | Membrillo | Jungti1234: ahhh yes i fixed that one |
| 14:35:17 | Membrillo | that one is fixed |
| 14:35:31 | Jungti1234 | But, the problem of me happens. |
| 14:36:02 | markun | yes, it has a mmu |
| 14:36:17 | Membrillo | rob2222: my battery is an original battery |
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| 14:37:00 | Mongey|away | damn i need help on this project |
| 14:37:00 | Jungti1234 | hi |
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| 14:37:30 | Membrillo | seeing my battery wont turn on for more than 5 seconds with an official build, i have concluded that lostlogics patch has killed my battery :'( |
| 14:37:38 | Mongey|away | anyone know how i can delay something or even what component to use |
| 14:38:32 | Mongey|away | Membrillo; i thought he siad not to use it on MR......... (stress i think) |
| 14:38:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it's official, I can't get linux to work beside rockbox on the Nano. It's *probably* just me sucking though. I can get it to the "Loading Linux" step, but I suspect I didn't set up the files on the ext2 partition properly. |
| 14:39:09 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Which kernel are you using? |
| 14:39:14 | Bger | haha original iriver fw has malloc ... |
| 14:39:35 | linuxstb | You should at least get the kernel console messages displayed before it tells you there is a problem with the root filesystem. |
| 14:39:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope |
| 14:39:43 | linuxstb | So it sounds like the kernel itself is wrong. |
| 14:39:59 | linuxstb | Does your kernel have a date? |
| 14:40:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | One second |
| 14:40:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I renamed the .bin, and can't remember now |
| 14:40:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's a nightly build from about 24 hours ago |
| 14:40:40 | Membrillo | i didnt know the original h300 firmware played OGG :O |
| 14:40:40 | Mongey|away | The h300 owns |
| 14:40:57 | Membrillo | fascinating |
| 14:40:58 | Mongey|away | lol |
| 14:41:11 | Mongey|away | i should be rid of that script |
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| 14:41:26 | Membrillo | something bad is going down |
| 14:41:32 | Jungti1234 | Paprica |
| 14:41:33 | Mongey|away | ?? |
| 14:41:33 | Membrillo | i think my harddrive may be dead |
| 14:41:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: 2006-01-17-podzilla.gz |
| 14:41:39 | Membrillo | not my battery |
| 14:41:47 | Mongey|away | o.0 |
| 14:41:49 | linuxstb | That's not the kernel... |
| 14:41:52 | Mongey|away | u sure? |
| 14:41:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oops |
| 14:41:59 | preglow | Bger: how do you know? |
| 14:42:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sorry, pasted the wrong thing |
| 14:42:16 | Membrillo | well the iriver fw just froze for a while |
| 14:42:19 | Membrillo | not a good sign |
| 14:42:32 | Membrillo | then it turned off |
| 14:42:39 | Membrillo | maybe my hd and my battery are bad |
| 14:42:52 | Mongey|away | can u RMA it? |
| 14:43:02 | Membrillo | ive inskinned it, but i guess so |
| 14:43:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Linuxstb: Ah, it does look like I forgot to get a new build of the kernel. |
| 14:43:19 | Membrillo | i can always take the inskin out and hope |
| 14:43:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mine was dated 11/22 |
| 14:43:31 | Mongey|away | but how long have u had it? |
| 14:43:40 | Membrillo | actually ive probably had it over a year |
| 14:43:42 | Membrillo | im not sure |
| 14:43:59 | Membrillo | probably just over a year now |
| 14:44:00 | Mongey|away | where do u live? uS? |
| 14:44:05 | Membrillo | Australia |
| 14:44:22 | Mongey|away | :| |
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| 14:44:52 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I would have expected the 11/22 kernel to support the Nano. But try a newer one. |
| 14:44:53 | Mongey|away | so its out of warranty |
| 14:45:15 | Membrillo | probably |
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| 14:45:25 | Membrillo | looks like im buying a new battery and hoping that fixes it |
| 14:45:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Just tried a new one |
| 14:45:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | I get some output, then it stops with "init: /bin/inted respawning too fast" |
| 14:46:00 | linuxstb | That's fine then. |
| 14:46:12 | markun | Membrillo: you are booting with the charger connected? |
| 14:46:15 | linuxstb | It means the kernel is running, but there is a problem with your ext2 filesystem. |
| 14:46:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Okay. |
| 14:46:45 | linuxstb | You may need to edit your /etc/rc file (on your ipl ext3 partition) to do something - e.g. run /bin/podzilla |
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| 14:47:28 | linuxstb | And make sure you copy a recent podzilla to that location as well - running chmod +x on it to make it executable. |
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| 14:50:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Argh, I really need to get my networking working properly under linux. |
| 14:51:00 | Membrillo | ok im going to open my h300 and see if the HD is loose |
| 14:54:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll be back, again |
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| 14:58:18 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:59:26 | Membrillo | hmmm |
| 14:59:31 | Membrillo | something must of been loose |
| 14:59:46 | Membrillo | opened her up, gave the harddrive a bit of a nudge |
| 14:59:50 | Membrillo | it seems to be ok now |
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| 15:00:27 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 15:00:27 | * | Bger flashes bootloader v5 |
| 15:00:27 | Membrillo | kinda strange |
| 15:00:57 | preglow | Bger: how do you know iriver fw uses malloc? |
| 15:01:11 | Bger | preglow strings :) |
| 15:01:15 | preglow | heh |
| 15:01:25 | Bger | of course, i'm not sure :) |
| 15:02:23 | preglow | when i disable -mlong-calls and tag ICODE_ATTR functions as attribute long_call, i get conflicting types errors |
| 15:02:26 | preglow | why would i do that? |
| 15:02:31 | Bger | mallcheck: fatal error: malloc list is corrupted |
| 15:02:43 | Bger | free: warning: multiple free() with same pointer |
| 15:02:48 | Bger | free: warning: not a valid pointer |
| 15:02:54 | preglow | Bger: looks indicative... |
| 15:03:27 | Bger | unsigned char table[] = { |
| 15:03:28 | Bger | 0x%02x, |
| 15:03:32 | Bger | q }; |
| 15:03:58 | linuxstb | So what's wrong with malloc? :) |
| 15:04:01 | Bger | this remembers me the firmware of .. (i don't remember the name, mpeye or sthing simillar) |
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| 15:04:49 | preglow | this is annoying |
| 15:05:26 | preglow | do we need to handle a long_call attribute any different than other attributes? |
| 15:05:53 | linuxstb | I think the actual function needs that attribute, not just the prototype. |
| 15:06:10 | linuxstb | IIRC |
| 15:06:17 | preglow | ghargh |
| 15:06:22 | preglow | well, that surely wont complicate things |
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| 15:07:20 | preglow | most calls use three instructions now |
| 15:07:22 | preglow | not optimal |
| 15:07:59 | Nibbler | re paul nerd |
| 15:08:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | "init: exec rc failed" is actually the first error message. =/ |
| 15:08:33 | Bger | finally a rb version from 2006... :) |
| 15:08:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | But, I really just wanted to make sure the linux kernel loaded, so that's all well and good. |
| 15:09:05 | preglow | sectioned compilation might also be forcing long calls on practially everything |
| 15:09:09 | preglow | why are we using sectioned compilation? |
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| 15:10:48 | linuxstb | To force long calls. |
| 15:10:53 | preglow | ....... |
| 15:10:58 | linuxstb | That's the only way I could get them to work at all. |
| 15:11:10 | Rob2222 | Membrillo: I know how LLs patch works, but i cant explain how he would kill the battery, thats what im thinking about. |
| 15:12:00 | preglow | we're probably wasting tens of kilobytes on long calls, then |
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| 15:12:19 | lostlogic | Membrillo: back to having problems even with higher battery voltage? :( |
| 15:12:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is the X5 sim suppose to compile with the recent CVS changes? |
| 15:12:45 | Membrillo | lostlogic: yeah |
| 15:12:50 | Membrillo | my players just being whack |
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| 15:13:22 | Membrillo | although, i have it open now, i took out the battery and nudged the harddrive and put the battery back and its working fine |
| 15:13:24 | Membrillo | strange |
| 15:13:47 | linuxstb | preglow: I know it's a very bad thing, but that's the only way I could make Rockbox compile at all. Hopefully gcc4 will be more co-operative. |
| 15:14:00 | muesli__ | yo |
| 15:14:06 | preglow | linuxstb: i'm using gcc4 |
| 15:14:24 | preglow | and it's just as quarelsome |
| 15:14:26 | Rob2222 | I dont think that the patch is the cause for the problem. |
| 15:14:48 | Rob2222 | the patch is programing the PCF50606 charger |
| 15:14:57 | preglow | man, i look forward to 64 meg ipod video support, where we'll have yet another case where we need long calls |
| 15:14:57 | Rob2222 | and the battery will be charged by teh LX2201 |
| 15:15:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Did anything ever happen of http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb.diff ? |
| 15:15:22 | lostlogic | Rob2222: The reason I thought it might be possible is that the VBAT on the PCF50606 is connected to the battery as well |
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| 15:15:44 | NightCat | Hi All! |
| 15:15:55 | NightCat | Is someone here? |
| 15:15:58 | lostlogic | has anyone else seen problems with playlist not advancing on recent builds? |
| 15:16:03 | lostlogic | NightCat: lots of people, g'morning |
| 15:16:47 | NightCat | How can I build only my plugin in devkit? |
| 15:17:02 | preglow | lostlogic: i have tons of playlist related problems |
| 15:17:05 | NightCat | Instead of use make for all RB... |
| 15:17:07 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Have you tested it? It doesn't work for me - the usb initialisation causes the retailos to fail to start. |
| 15:17:07 | preglow | where it just behaves weirdly |
| 15:17:12 | preglow | like playing the same dir several times |
| 15:17:19 | lostlogic | preglow: like not being shuffled with it should be? |
| 15:17:28 | Membrillo | there is something rattling inside my iriver.... |
| 15:17:33 | Membrillo | i cant see anything moving though |
| 15:17:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I'll test it now. |
| 15:17:47 | preglow | and skipping songs from time to time |
| 15:18:16 | NightCat | I have not seen any playlist bugs... |
| 15:18:25 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: You could also try the same code, but without the call to usb_init(). I wouldn't expect that to correctly detect usb though. |
| 15:19:01 | NightCat | Ideas about my question? |
| 15:19:20 | NightCat | How to build only my plugin not all RB? |
| 15:19:31 | NightCat | (Wich commands?) |
| 15:19:40 | lostlogic | preglow: any idea what recent change might have caused such weirdness? |
| 15:19:40 | preglow | why? |
| 15:19:45 | preglow | lostlogic: none |
| 15:19:48 | preglow | NightCat: just type make |
| 15:20:06 | preglow | NightCat: after a full build has been done, only the parts that change will be compiled |
| 15:20:26 | Paprica | mm when i add somthing to the settings |
| 15:20:28 | NightCat | preglow: Yes but it checks all |
| 15:20:29 | Paprica | /* # of bits, offset+size, default, .cfg name, .cfg values */ |
| 15:20:33 | preglow | NightCat: correct |
| 15:20:44 | NightCat | Ok. |
| 15:20:49 | preglow | if that checking actually takes time, you are on a 486 |
| 15:20:53 | Paprica | how i know what is the nuber of th e bits? |
| 15:21:05 | Paprica | how can i |
| 15:21:07 | Paprica | ** |
| 15:21:09 | NightCat | Nop :) P4 1.8... |
| 15:21:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Linuxstb: Mine showed the version number, then went straight into RetailOS |
| 15:21:47 | linuxstb | So it's working then? |
| 15:21:47 | NightCat | Strange, but it builds credits.c file all the time... |
| 15:21:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | The funny thing is, only sorta |
| 15:22:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | In RetailOS, it's charging off USB, but isn't a drive. |
| 15:22:19 | preglow | NightCat: that's a build system error, i think |
| 15:22:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Widnows, at least, sees it as an unknown device. |
| 15:22:45 | NightCat | preglow: make clean will help? |
| 15:22:49 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: In which case, the usb_init() is obviously breaking something. You could try and see what happens if you remove that. |
| 15:22:53 | lostlogic | preglow: best candidates are my codec return path change, or the new codec loader, but neither would explain all of the weird. |
| 15:22:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | I shall then |
| 15:23:08 | Membrillo | hmmm |
| 15:23:11 | preglow | lostlogic: my problems are far older than that |
| 15:23:16 | Membrillo | my iriver has a strange rattle to it now |
| 15:23:44 | lostlogic | hmm, I wonder if I'm just noticing because I had been using smaller playlists of all the same codec for a while. |
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| 15:26:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: If I remove the usb_init() it doesn't load retailOS. If I leave it there, USB is just... broken in retailOS it seems. |
| 15:26:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | At least if retail is entered via the bootloader detecting USB. |
| 15:26:58 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, themes work just dandy on nano now |
| 15:27:03 | preglow | loads like a lightning as well |
| 15:27:07 | preglow | compared to the ages it takes on h1x0 |
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| 15:35:48 | Jungti1234 | Paprica |
| 15:36:54 | Bger | lostlogic np for the red builds ... i know what's the feeling of your eyes closing themselves :P |
| 15:36:58 | Jungti1234 | Paprica: Didn't compile end yet? Didn't compile end yet? |
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| 15:42:38 | lostlogic | Bger: I'm making some corrections to the corrections for a few targets now that I'm awake :) |
| 15:43:13 | Bger | k ;) |
| 15:45:01 | linuxstb | preglow: Good news about the themes. I'll have to try them again on my ipod. |
| 15:46:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, themes load over here as well, as would kinda be expected i suppose. |
| 15:47:58 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Thanks for confirming my usb attempt doesn't work. |
| 15:48:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | It really _really_ wanted to work though |
| 15:49:04 | linuxstb | My second idea is for Rockbox to write a "go straight to retailos" string somewhere in IRAM before rebooting, and then for the bootloader to check for that string, and go to retailos if it is present. |
| 15:49:24 | linuxstb | I tried that last night, and it works. |
| 15:49:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I like that one! |
| 15:49:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | :-P |
| 15:49:36 | lostlogic | other than reading the code and doing your best, do most of you have build environments for all targets to check before commits? |
| 15:50:11 | linuxstb | Yes - if I'm doing a risky commit, then I'll compile for at least one type of each target first. |
| 15:50:55 | preglow | oh, i kind of forgot i've got the UIE thing here |
| 15:51:10 | preglow | it only deals with exceptions yet, but it's probably still worth a commit? |
| 15:54:00 | linuxstb | lostlogic: But I think the golden rule is to not commit and run :) IMO, it doesn't matter if we get red builds, as long as someone who knows that change is around to fix them. |
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| 15:54:27 | preglow | yeah |
| 15:54:48 | preglow | if you're commiting code that touches several platforms, it's always best to wait until you have time to check the build status |
| 15:54:58 | lostlogic | linuxstb: yeah, I didn't mean to last night, but it was way past my bedtime and I made two commits in sequence where the latter one was the big one, and couldn't wait 1.5hr longer for them to all build, won't happen again. |
| 15:55:29 | preglow | it probably will, but you can pretend it wont :) |
| 15:55:33 | lostlogic | haha yep! |
| 15:55:37 | preglow | most people have to get burnt at least two times |
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| 15:59:51 | NightCat | Wich element in char array is used as nonstring? |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:02 | NightCat | I mean when we do this: |
| 16:00:09 | NightCat | char a[5]; |
| 16:00:19 | NightCat | Wich elements puts to a? |
| 16:00:27 | Bger | it has 5 elements, starting from 0 |
| 16:00:29 | Bger | to 4 |
| 16:00:32 | NightCat | (The last one is \0 ?) |
| 16:00:38 | Bger | yes |
| 16:00:43 | NightCat | And other? |
| 16:00:53 | Bger | so in a char a[5] you can put 4 chars + \0 |
| 16:01:01 | Bger | starting from the first (0) elem |
| 16:01:13 | NightCat | Oh, ok... |
| 16:01:30 | NightCat | I'm working on some string functions :) |
| 16:01:31 | Bger | welcome to the c's string heaviness |
| 16:01:53 | NightCat | I've made substr() :) |
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| 16:02:00 | Bger | ah :) |
| 16:02:02 | Bger | there is such |
| 16:02:09 | Bger | or no... in rockbox |
| 16:02:20 | Bger | it should be named strstr |
| 16:02:27 | NightCat | No I'm making substr() and I've made strpos :) |
| 16:03:06 | NightCat | Bger: It's hard to understand RB functions for me so I'm doing it myself :) |
| 16:03:18 | linuxstb | Second attempt at USB->RetailOS for Nano: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb2.diff - apply this patch to a clean CVS copy |
| 16:03:39 | Bger | NightCat better ask than reinvent the wheel ... |
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| 16:04:03 | NightCat | Bger: There is no strstr()... |
| 16:04:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll let you know how it goes, then. |
| 16:05:32 | * | preglow remembers it's possible to extract exception number for cpsr... |
| 16:05:38 | preglow | from |
| 16:05:46 | Bger | NightCat but if you make such fun, name it char *strstr(const char *haystack, const char *needle); |
| 16:06:18 | NightCat | Bger: ? |
| 16:06:31 | preglow | haha |
| 16:07:11 | NightCat | There is: char *(*strcasestr) (const char* phaystack, const char* pneedle); |
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| 16:08:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Linuxstb: Should I need to rebuild rockbox for ipod too, or just the bootloader? |
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| 16:09:13 | NightCat | I'm back :) |
| 16:11:14 | Bger | NightCat w8 |
| 16:11:43 | NightCat | Bger: What is w8? |
| 16:11:46 | preglow | wait |
| 16:12:38 | Bger | NightCat i suppose this makes a case-sensitive substr seach |
| 16:12:58 | Bger | ah, the reverse |
| 16:13:14 | Bger | it ignores the case |
| 16:13:29 | NightCat | How it works? |
| 16:13:37 | NightCat | I can't understand... |
| 16:13:44 | Bger | char *strcasestr(const char *haystack, const char *needle); |
| 16:13:53 | Bger | but in the rockbox's source .. w8 |
| 16:13:58 | NightCat | My function looks like this: int strpos(char *src, char *needle, int offset) |
| 16:14:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Linuxstb: Okay, now when you plug in the USB cable inside of rockbox, it reboots to retail, and then USB connects properly |
| 16:14:29 | NightCat | And it returns INT!!! |
| 16:14:30 | Bger | firmware/common/strcasestr.c: char* strcasestr (const char* phaystack, const char* pneedle) |
| 16:14:34 | amiconn | preglow: Afaik, function attributes can be set for the prototypes *only* |
| 16:15:09 | NightCat | Bger: I can't understand why that function returns char? |
| 16:15:10 | Bger | NightCat it returns a pointer to the found substring "pneedle" |
| 16:15:30 | amiconn | This is how all ICODE_ATTRs are set anyway, so I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work for long calls |
| 16:15:40 | NightCat | But I need a position, not pointer... |
| 16:15:49 | preglow | amiconn: it doesn't |
| 16:15:58 | amiconn | Then something in gcc is broken |
| 16:16:09 | preglow | amiconn: it starts complaining about conflicts in definitions |
| 16:16:11 | amiconn | arm seems like a strange platform to me... |
| 16:16:22 | Bger | NightCat if you call it like char *pos,str[]={"blahadg"}; pos=strcasestr(str,"ha"); |
| 16:16:26 | amiconn | preglow: How do you set the attribute? |
| 16:16:28 | preglow | it's not that strange |
| 16:16:42 | preglow | amiconn: i just concat it onto ICODE_ATTR with __attribute ((long-call) |
| 16:16:46 | preglow | long_call), that is |
| 16:17:14 | amiconn | That won't work |
| 16:17:16 | NightCat | Bger: Then what? |
| 16:17:17 | preglow | why not? |
| 16:17:18 | Bger | NightCat then the pos will point to "hagd" |
| 16:17:34 | amiconn | If you give multiple attributes, you must use a single __attributed__ |
| 16:17:42 | NightCat | Bger: Really? :) |
| 16:17:42 | Bger | and if you want the string pos, you just do a (pos-str) |
| 16:17:47 | amiconn | __attribute__ |
| 16:17:50 | preglow | then how come IDATA_ATTR LINE_ATTR has worked for so many? |
| 16:17:57 | amiconn | Huh? |
| 16:18:09 | amiconn | Hmm.................................................. |
| 16:18:17 | NightCat | Bger: Yes... Pointers is not my specification... |
| 16:18:18 | preglow | amiconn: so __attribute__ ((attr1, attr2)), or? |
| 16:18:34 | preglow | amiconn: that's an awful lot of dots you've got there |
| 16:18:38 | amiconn | wait |
| 16:18:42 | preglow | will |
| 16:18:45 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: So you would be happy if I committed usb2.diff ? |
| 16:18:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Absolutely. |
| 16:18:53 | Bger | NightCat in C an array name is simply a pointer to the first element (but constant pointer, i.e. you can't make str=<otherstring>" in our example |
| 16:19:19 | preglow | boot retailos instead of disk mode? |
| 16:19:22 | preglow | wont that just be really, really slow? |
| 16:19:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | It takes several *minutes* to copy over a clean .rockbox folder in "Disk Mode" and less than 10 seconds in Retail OS. |
| 16:19:35 | NightCat | Bger: And what if I want to have "bla"? |
| 16:19:37 | preglow | i very seldom need a complete folder |
| 16:19:40 | preglow | usually just one file |
| 16:19:48 | Bger | NightCat ? explain |
| 16:19:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 16:19:58 | preglow | but anyway, i can remove it if it's too slow |
| 16:20:01 | preglow | so just go ahead |
| 16:20:09 | NightCat | Bger: In our example. |
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| 16:20:40 | Chamois | hello |
| 16:20:42 | NightCat | Bger: "ewfewr!efer" I need only "ewfewr" |
| 16:20:47 | Chamois | i have a little question |
| 16:20:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | It doesn't take very much longer at all to get into retail OS, and that'll more than make up for it if, say the intent is to copy a folder of music. |
| 16:20:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or anything else that's multiple files, for that matter. |
| 16:21:06 | NightCat | Chamois: Just ask |
| 16:21:34 | Chamois | is it normal that the h300 patched firmware do 4 meg ? |
| 16:21:48 | Chamois | before patching it was 2.5 mb |
| 16:22:16 | NightCat | Yes |
| 16:22:19 | NightCat | It is |
| 16:22:37 | Chamois | sure ? :-) |
| 16:22:43 | NightCat | Yes |
| 16:22:51 | Chamois | ok |
| 16:22:53 | NightCat | I have about 3,98 ... |
| 16:22:58 | Chamois | so i will patch |
| 16:23:00 | NightCat | Or something... |
| 16:23:19 | NightCat | If you want to check, check a checksum. |
| 16:23:27 | Chamois | yes i will do |
| 16:23:32 | NightCat | Not the size of a file. |
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| 16:25:17 | NightCat | Bger: How do you think will it be that my function will work slower then RB? |
| 16:27:48 | NightCat | Anybody here? |
| 16:27:56 | Bger | w8 |
| 16:28:17 | NightCat | Bger: What it means "w8"? |
| 16:28:21 | Bger | NightCat if you search for a string |
| 16:28:38 | Bger | w8 = wait ... 8 spells like [eith] uf ... |
| 16:28:55 | Bger | you know its len |
| 16:29:05 | Bger | so if strcasepos returns you something != NULL |
| 16:29:14 | NightCat | Bger: Oh, ok now I know what is w8 :) |
| 16:29:44 | Bger | you know where the the string starts, and you know its length |
| 16:30:36 | amiconn | preglow: Where did you try these attributes? Perhaps there are several declarations for the same function |
| 16:30:42 | Bger | NightCat what do you want to do in fact ? |
| 16:30:53 | NightCat | if I want to find the string end symbol will it work: if(src[i] == \0) ? |
| 16:31:06 | NightCat | Or if(src[i] == "\0")? |
| 16:31:11 | NightCat | Or if(src[i] == '\0')? |
| 16:31:23 | Bger | '\0' |
| 16:31:30 | Bger | 'c' is char |
| 16:31:43 | Bger | "s" is in fact a string ('s'+'\0') |
| 16:31:49 | NightCat | Bger: In fact I just trying to improve some string functions like in pascal. |
| 16:32:06 | Bger | ah :) |
| 16:32:16 | Bger | btw, there is sprintf... |
| 16:32:21 | Bger | snprintf |
| 16:32:33 | preglow | amiconn: where? when i modify ICODE_ATTR i believe they'll be applied for all iram functions |
| 16:32:38 | NightCat | Bger: Cause it's more understandable for me :) |
| 16:32:42 | preglow | amiconn: and yeah, problems appeared in the core already |
| 16:32:54 | preglow | amiconn: for a string function, i believe |
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| 16:33:01 | preglow | amiconn: gimme a sec and i'll paste you the error |
| 16:33:12 | Bger | NightCat i tried the same thing some years ago .... |
| 16:33:18 | Bger | but gotta go |
| 16:33:28 | NightCat | Bger: Ok :) |
| 16:33:40 | preglow | common/strlen.c:58: error: conflicting types for ?strlen? |
| 16:33:40 | preglow | include/string.h:35: error: previous declaration of ?strlen? was here |
| 16:34:11 | NightCat | Bger: Somewhen I'll forget pascal funtions too, but now... :) |
| 16:34:55 | Bger | NightCat search for "working with strings in C" ... |
| 16:35:20 | NightCat | Bger: I've done this - nothing itresting... |
| 16:35:53 | Bger | while on this topic ... now with unicode there are problems with string terminating ... |
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| 16:36:16 | zirra-gone | howdy folks. |
| 16:36:25 | Bger | gotta go ... nite |
| 16:36:35 | NightCat | Bger: Bye :) |
| 16:36:40 | NightCat | Bger: Thx |
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| 16:38:25 | godzirra | a few days ago someone recommended an awesome windows based playlist editor that they used as a replacement for the crappy software that came with their iriver... |
| 16:38:34 | godzirra | anyone know what it was? I keep wanting to say TBD or something? |
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| 16:39:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | tag database tool, I believe? |
| 16:39:24 | godzirra | Ooh.. that may have been it. Thanks Paul.. I'll go google. |
| 16:39:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though, if you're using Rockbox, you can just create otf playlists... |
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| 16:40:03 | godzirra | I hate creating on the fly playlists though... they take too long for me to do because i'm not used to them. |
| 16:40:58 | Paprica | LinusN? |
| 16:41:14 | godzirra | Hm? |
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| 16:47:03 | amiconn | preglow: Hmm, it seems there are actually two types of attributes |
| 16:48:00 | amiconn | One type is additive, i.e. if you declare the same function multiple times and one of the declarations has that attribute, it will be in effect, regardless of the other declarations |
| 16:48:27 | amiconn | One type seems to be exclusive, i.e. if one declaration has it and the other does not, there will be a conflict |
| 16:49:12 | amiconn | strlen() is declared 2 times, once in string.h (w/o ICODE_ATTR), and once in strlen.c (with ICODE_ATTR) |
| 16:49:15 | preglow | strange that the section attribute is not one of them |
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| 16:51:34 | amiconn | I expect even section attributes to clash if you give two different ones |
| 16:52:09 | amiconn | Well, the section attribute (by itself) doesn't change the calling convention, while long-call does |
| 16:53:44 | preglow | so, any quick fix? |
| 16:54:16 | preglow | i expect we need to add ICODE_ATTR to all the header defs as well, then? |
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| 16:56:41 | amiconn | lostlogic: I don't understand your latest changes. |
| 16:57:13 | amiconn | The targets which have no charging at all (i.e. Ondio) surely don't need the wps tag, this is code bloat |
| 16:58:19 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 16:58:28 | lostlogic | amiconn: hmm, that code was there on all targets before I started touching things yesterday... it is for the charger connected state, not for the charging state... |
| 16:59:16 | amiconn | Hmm. Still, there can't be a charger connected when there is no charging |
| 16:59:37 | amiconn | It seems a little cleanup is due... |
| 16:59:39 | lostlogic | Hmm, I'll double check for the targets that don't HAVE_CHARGING. |
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| 17:04:33 | NightCat | if char *src; char t[5]; src = t; sizeof(src) returns a size of pointer, and I want a size of t... What shoud I do? |
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| 17:05:12 | lostlogic | amiconn: yeah, the way the config-*.h files are setup, the charger_inserted function should just not exist if HAVE_CHARGING is not set. Fixing. |
| 17:06:03 | preglow | dinner |
| 17:06:31 | amiconn | lostlogic: There is a possibility to clean up #ifdefs: If you define HAVE_CHARGE_STATE for all platforms which can read state, some #ifdefs will get much clearer |
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| 17:07:01 | amiconn | (that is, define HAVE_CHARGE_STATE for recv1, fmrec, recv2 as well) |
| 17:07:10 | lostlogic | amiconn: yeah, I want to do that as well, those 3 condition ifs were killing my brain to be writing them, but didn't have the energy to do the cleanups at the same time. |
| 17:07:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Alrighty, got iPodLinux properly working. |
| 17:07:20 | amiconn | Of course the function to actually read the state is model dependent |
| 17:08:05 | amiconn | Either do model checks there (discouraged in rockbox), or make HAVE_CHARGE_STATE a multi-value option |
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| 17:08:34 | amiconn | Like, #define CONFIG_CHARGE_STATE CHARGE_STATE_H300 etc |
| 17:08:58 | linuxstb | preglow, Paul_The_Nerd: Maybe upgrading to a newer version of retailos will fix the "emergency" disk mode. It sounds like a bug to me. But at least we now have methods for doing either. I'll leave it up to you two to decide what Rockbox should do. |
| 17:08:58 | amiconn | Then you can both check with #ifdef, and check for the exact value where necessary |
| 17:09:00 | NightCat | People! How to use sizeof() function with pointers? (I know, you are very busy but...) |
| 17:09:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I'm at the "newest" version of RetailOS, it just came out a couple days ago |
| 17:09:39 | amiconn | NightCat: That's not possible. sizeof(pointer) always gives the size of a pointer (4 for 32 bit platforms) |
| 17:10:28 | NightCat | I know... But how to get size of var wich have this pointer? |
| 17:10:48 | NightCat | I mean wich this pointer is points to... |
| 17:10:55 | amiconn | You can't |
| 17:11:07 | NightCat | ...rrr... |
| 17:11:12 | amiconn | If it's a string, you can get the actual string length, |
| 17:11:27 | amiconn | but you can't get the length of an array |
| 17:11:36 | NightCat | Then how rb->strlen works? |
| 17:11:45 | lostlogic | amiconn: what are the chances that the new codec loader would cause problems only when changing codecs in play mode, but not in skip mode? (either that or my code is causing weirdness at codec-change track boundaries) |
| 17:13:23 | amiconn | It shouldn't. Itested it in both modes |
| 17:13:55 | amiconn | (changing between various combinations of mp3, ogg, wv, flac, ac3) |
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| 17:15:43 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is not so impressed with iPodLinux. |
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| 17:18:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I suppose it's more with this "podzilla" thing. Heh. |
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| 17:25:35 | Mongey|homework | can i make a request?for an addition for the h300 port |
| 17:26:02 | Mongey|homework | an alarm |
| 17:26:25 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: There is a new "podzilla2" in development. From what I've read about it, it seems very big on eye-candy. |
| 17:26:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 17:26:48 | linuxstb | But I haven't tried using it. |
| 17:27:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maybe I'm just used to rockbox or something, but it generally just sorta felt wrong in general. |
| 17:28:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | But, I can at least confirm that it seems to have no problems working beside rockbox. |
| 17:28:32 | lostlogic | Mongey|homework: I believe that's already on the long list of things to do. |
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| 17:32:47 | Paprica | LinusN? |
| 17:32:52 | Mongey|homework | lol |
| 17:33:07 | Paprica | ? |
| 17:33:10 | Mongey|homework | my bad |
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| 17:33:32 | Mongey|homework | San |
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| 17:36:15 | Paprica | blah |
| 17:36:24 | Paprica | where is linus =\ |
| 17:36:30 | Paprica | i want to release my patch |
| 17:36:37 | Paprica | but i need to ask him somthing |
| 17:36:38 | Paprica | =\ |
| 17:36:50 | NicoFR | Paprica: what kinf of patch ? |
| 17:36:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's the patch for, out of curiosity? |
| 17:36:56 | NicoFR | *kind |
| 17:37:17 | Paprica | mmm custom status ba |
| 17:37:18 | Paprica | r |
| 17:37:23 | Paprica | not images |
| 17:37:28 | Paprica | only the postion |
| 17:37:29 | Paprica | + |
| 17:37:35 | Paprica | title for all the menus |
| 17:37:44 | Paprica | and the directorys |
| 17:37:44 | NicoFR | that's cool |
| 17:38:01 | Paprica | lol |
| 17:38:02 | Paprica | sorry |
| 17:38:07 | Paprica | folders* |
| 17:38:22 | Paprica | oh |
| 17:38:25 | NicoFR | ar you going to post it to the patch tracker ? |
| 17:38:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | What did you need to know before you put it on the patch tracker, then? |
| 17:38:27 | Paprica | itd thedsme? |
| 17:38:32 | Paprica | same* |
| 17:38:46 | Paprica | NicoFR yep |
| 17:38:55 | NicoFR | yes folder == directory |
| 17:39:01 | Paprica | Paul_The_Nerd, sec |
| 17:39:33 | Paprica | /* # of bits, offset+size, default, .cfg name, .cfg values */ |
| 17:39:35 | linuxstb | Paprica: Does your patch handle all the targets? Different targets have differents things available in the status bar. |
| 17:39:39 | Paprica | i want to know |
| 17:39:51 | Paprica | what i need to write in the # of bits |
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| 17:40:20 | Paprica | i use it in the simulator with 4 |
| 17:40:33 | linuxstb | We have 16 targets... |
| 17:40:34 | Paprica | but dont know if its correct |
| 17:40:52 | Paprica | linuxstb: i dont try it =\ |
| 17:41:06 | Paprica | i try it only on the h3xx target |
| 17:41:23 | linuxstb | You just need to make sure that your code uses the same combinations of #ifdefs that the existing code uses. |
| 17:41:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Question: Would it be possible to allow rolo-ing into Linux, as opposed to using the bootloader? |
| 17:42:07 | Paprica | ok i will try to compile it for the others |
| 17:42:25 | Paprica | linuxstb, you know the answer for my question? |
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| 17:43:08 | Mmmm | Ive made a patch for the recording function, it combines the digital and analogue gain in a rather cunning way... anyone want to try it? |
| 17:43:36 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I think we would have to undo all the hardware initialisations that Rockbox does before attempting to load a Linux. So I don't think it's trivial. |
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| 17:44:34 | linuxstb | At the very least, we will have to undo the memory remapping to move SDRAM back to the original 0x1000000 location. |
| 17:44:59 | linuxstb | Paprica: No I don't. Try looking at the CVS log to see if anyone has done a similar change in the past to what you want to do. |
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| 17:45:31 | Paprica | ok |
| 17:45:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Ah, makes sense. |
| 17:46:30 | linuxstb | But at the very least we should try and make rolo load rockbox. |
| 17:47:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | It doesn't? |
| 17:47:39 | linuxstb | Nope. I haven't worked on it at all, and it will also fail due to the memory remapping. |
| 17:48:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, gotcha |
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| 18:00:12 | Rob2222 | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=8748587561 <= lol. "HD doesnt recognized by computer. format doesnt work. Maybe a low level format can help but i dont know that cause i am not a expert" |
| 18:01:08 | Rob2222 | "somone sait to me, thats no problem for a tinkerer to get thad disk running again" |
| 18:01:13 | Rob2222 | funny text |
| 18:02:07 | thegeek_ | not really |
| 18:02:14 | thegeek_ | quite honestly |
| 18:03:09 | Rob2222 | i found it funny :) |
| 18:03:15 | Rob2222 | then sorry 4 spamming |
| 18:04:21 | thegeek_ | ;) |
| 18:05:05 | lostlogic | is anyone else having problems with codec failure when playing across a codec change, or is this just me? |
| 18:06:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Y'know, now that you mention it, I haven't just sat and listened to music through a rockbox running dap in several days... heh. |
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| 18:08:05 | aegray | where are your ICODE_ATTR and ICONST_ATTR defined? |
| 18:09:27 | noonex | I was wondering if anyone knows if it is difficult or impossible to change the usb controller in a jukebox 20? |
| 18:11:00 | Rob2222 | i dont know |
| 18:11:23 | Rob2222 | MULTILIBS=`/home/Rob/build/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/home/Rob/build/gcc/gcc/ -B/home/Rob/m68k4/m68k-elf/bin/ -B/home/Rob |
| 18:11:24 | Rob2222 | -print-multi-lib` \ |
| 18:11:24 | Rob2222 | make[1]: *** [libgcc.mk] Error 127 |
| 18:11:24 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Rob2222 |
| 18:11:24 | Rob2222 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Rob/build/gcc/gcc' |
| 18:11:24 | Rob2222 | make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 |
| 18:12:10 | Rob2222 | i didnt manage it to compile gcc402. tried both patches of the wiki |
| 18:13:52 | noonex | I want to try to make it a usb host instead of slave, but I would probably have to repogram the firmware too. |
| 18:15:26 | aegray | does it even have host capabilities? |
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| 18:16:30 | t0mas | hmz... |
| 18:16:44 | Rob2222 | noonex: Have a USB host controller thats at least a little "pin compatible"? |
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| 18:26:36 | lostlogic | anyone running the latest bleeding edge out there with a couple different codecs of music on their player? |
| 18:28:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gimme a sec Lostlogic, and I'll test |
| 18:30:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which DAP are you on, by the way? |
| 18:30:25 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: thanks −− just get to a point where next track is a different codec than current track, seek to a few secs from the end, and then see what happens when it should start the next track |
| 18:30:30 | lostlogic | h340 |
| 18:30:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ok |
| 18:30:55 | t0mas | preglow? are you around? |
| 18:31:18 | t0mas | (or amiconn?) |
| 18:32:29 | Paprica | blah |
| 18:32:42 | Paprica | the menu doesnt open in the ipod simulation |
| 18:33:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Lostlogic: Does it matter which two codecs it's switching between? |
| 18:33:49 | preglow | t0mas: am now |
| 18:33:57 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: the problem I'm having is vorbis->mp3 and mp3->vorbis but I don't think it matters |
| 18:33:58 | t0mas | ok, have some time for a question? |
| 18:34:13 | t0mas | I have some weird results from optimizing a simple math function |
| 18:34:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Yeah, it just happend mp3->flac |
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| 18:34:35 | lostlogic | get codec failure, right? |
| 18:34:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yep |
| 18:34:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then it skips the next song, and plays the song after |
| 18:34:51 | t0mas | preglow: it's here: http://pastebin.com/513264 |
| 18:34:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which is also a flac, and it works. |
| 18:35:14 | lostlogic | yeah, it's just when playing across boundaries, but not when skipping across boundaries :-\ thanks. |
| 18:36:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ugh, the playlist browser is *really* unresponsive too... I don't remember that. |
| 18:36:19 | preglow | t0mas: this is x86.... |
| 18:38:01 | preglow | aegray: don't see if anyone answered you, iram defs are in firmware/export/config.h |
| 18:38:23 | aegray | preglow: i was looking more for the link script but got it :) |
| 18:38:31 | aegray | does rockbox dynamically load executables? |
| 18:38:38 | preglow | yeah |
| 18:38:47 | aegray | k |
| 18:38:49 | preglow | plugins and codecs are loaded dynamically |
| 18:39:00 | aegray | how does it handle copying to iram? |
| 18:39:07 | preglow | the plugin itself has to do it |
| 18:39:10 | aegray | ah |
| 18:39:15 | preglow | since our plugins are just plain binary flat files |
| 18:39:20 | preglow | no relocation or sectioning or anything |
| 18:42:36 | lostlogic | amiconn: I think your more consistent error checking patch is the cause of the current problems that I'm seeing with codecs not changing over. |
| 18:42:37 | NightCat | How to convert CHAR to INT ? ('1' > 1) |
| 18:42:57 | aegray | '1' - '0' |
| 18:43:13 | NightCat | What you mean? |
| 18:43:35 | aegray | char has some value - '1' might be 49 |
| 18:43:39 | aegray | '0' might be 48 |
| 18:43:50 | aegray | use a loop to go through and change things like that |
| 18:43:57 | aegray | with one digit, '1' - '0' = 1 |
| 18:44:00 | aegray | (with casting) |
| 18:44:06 | NightCat | :) |
| 18:44:11 | NightCat | Heh. |
| 18:44:35 | NightCat | I always trying to find some functions... |
| 18:45:01 | aegray | check online - i'm sure theres a ton for implementations of printf |
| 18:46:46 | preglow | arghhh |
| 18:46:52 | aegray | hmm? |
| 18:47:00 | preglow | i _still_ get skips when playback changes directory |
| 18:47:16 | NightCat | '1' - '0' works |
| 18:47:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 18:47:22 | * | preglow summons Slasheri |
| 18:49:12 | Slasheri | preglow: Hmm, yes that's possible because playback engine can't prebuffer the next song in next directory.. |
| 18:50:03 | preglow | Slasheri: well, it shouldn't start playing it if it can't do so without a skip |
| 18:50:07 | Slasheri | and that's because playlist_peek will not advance to the next directory unless playlist_next is called first |
| 18:50:24 | Slasheri | and we can't call playlist_next before song has been changed |
| 18:50:37 | Slasheri | hmm |
| 18:50:45 | preglow | i really don't see why that's relevant, btw, if the track has already started playing, all the playlist stuff has been dealt with |
| 18:51:10 | Slasheri | oh.. so the playback skips once the new track has just started playing? |
| 18:51:17 | preglow | yep |
| 18:51:26 | preglow | the good old problem |
| 18:51:26 | Slasheri | ah, then it's a bug.. |
| 18:51:29 | preglow | which just wont go away |
| 18:51:53 | Slasheri | i think we need to make some prebuffering checks before starting the playback |
| 18:52:03 | preglow | probably, yes |
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| 18:52:32 | Slasheri | i will try if i can find any songs to reproduce the issue and then fix it.. |
| 18:53:19 | preglow | well |
| 18:53:23 | preglow | this was mp3 |
| 18:53:47 | preglow | everything goes fine, it buffers the next directory, starts playback, skips, and continues playback |
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| 18:53:58 | preglow | no manual skip, btw, it changed directory because it was at the end of a track |
| 18:54:02 | preglow | ehh, directory |
| 18:54:05 | Slasheri | hmm.. what bitrate the file is? |
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| 18:54:12 | preglow | 192kbis |
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| 18:54:38 | Slasheri | ok.. it might be possible your disk is slower than mine, so it will produce the problem more easily |
| 18:55:47 | preglow | ahh, yes, there's always that |
| 18:55:55 | preglow | what about the antiskip setting, does that work on iriver currently? |
| 18:56:14 | Rob2222 | ipod or iriver? |
| 18:56:34 | Slasheri | yep it works, but it has no use when directory changes because buffer will always run empty.. |
| 18:56:44 | Rob2222 | Slasheri: ona and two plattern disk have different speeds |
| 18:57:03 | lostlogic | why would a directory change cause the buffer to run empty? The player could still tell what to buffer next and fill from the next dir ahead? |
| 18:57:10 | Rob2222 | H320 compared with H340 in disk speed f.e. |
| 18:57:19 | Slasheri | lostlogic: no it couldn't |
| 18:57:29 | preglow | it could, but it doesn't |
| 18:57:37 | preglow | because of rockbox' internal structure |
| 18:57:39 | preglow | playlists, etc |
| 18:57:48 | Slasheri | lostlogic: playlist_peek(next_song) returns null until we call playlist_next to advance next directory |
| 18:57:57 | Slasheri | that is a problem with the playlist engine.. |
| 18:58:10 | lostlogic | I see −− so the problem is only in the auto-dir advance feature. |
| 18:58:14 | preglow | a seperate file mode would be lovely |
| 18:58:16 | preglow | i never use playlists |
| 18:58:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:58:26 | Slasheri | so we can't prebuffer the songs in the next directory until last song in the current directory has finished |
| 18:58:34 | Slasheri | yep |
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| 19:02:36 | Slasheri | preglow: good, i was able to reproduce that. But it sounds something other than buffering problem, weird |
| 19:03:02 | preglow | yes, i don't think it's a buffering problem |
| 19:03:15 | preglow | seems like you should buffer some more audio in the pcmbuf before starting playback |
| 19:03:43 | Slasheri | it sounds like the playback is started twice at the beginning of the same file |
| 19:03:51 | preglow | hmm |
| 19:03:53 | preglow | weird |
| 19:07:01 | Slasheri | yep, that is the problem at least.. just verified :) |
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| 19:22:35 | Slasheri | preglow: should be fixed now, please test :) |
| 19:23:14 | preglow | i will |
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| 19:40:08 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Should we make measurements how deep we could go with the voltage in H3x0 series? In the moment it takes the min_voltage of the H1x0, if i see that right. |
| 19:42:06 | * | eli_sherer says look here: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=376358 |
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| 19:50:51 | NightCat | Coooool... |
| 19:51:30 | muesli__ | eli :D |
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| 19:52:15 | eli_sherer | do you have and OB (optimized build)? |
| 19:52:52 | ModernExecutive | Just wanted to inquire: did linus come up with a new version of the US patched firmware? |
| 19:55:16 | preglow | Slasheri: works just dnady |
| 19:55:18 | preglow | dandy |
| 19:55:42 | preglow | ModernExecutive: linus doesn't distribute patched firmwares |
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| 19:56:34 | ModernExecutive | preglow: i was a guinea pig for a patched firmware. |
| 19:56:53 | ModernExecutive | the test was to see if his patch retained drm |
| 19:56:55 | ModernExecutive | it did not |
| 19:57:03 | ModernExecutive | i was just curious if he had tried again. |
| 19:57:06 | eli_sherer | i made it a thread for feedback and stuff: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=376368#post376368 |
| 19:58:22 | Coolhawk | Anyone here have had a burned charger circuit on the X5 ? |
| 19:58:28 | preglow | someone should make a more customisable gui system for rockbox |
| 19:58:37 | preglow | this just bolting on colours doesn't do it for me |
| 19:59:43 | ModernExecutive | i ask because i have another h320 with drm that could serve as fodder for another version |
| 19:59:53 | preglow | well, he hasn't mentioned it |
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| 20:00:08 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 20:03:28 | Rob2222 | ModernExecutive: What happened with your player? RMAes? |
| 20:03:44 | ModernExecutive | yep. got my rma replacement yesterday. |
| 20:03:52 | ModernExecutive | only problem was that the HDD was shot on the replacement |
| 20:04:06 | ModernExecutive | a quick call to iriver led to yet another rma replacement, which should arrive by tomorrow |
| 20:04:26 | ModernExecutive | in the meantime, i swaped the HDD from the bricked player into the rma replacement. |
| 20:04:31 | ModernExecutive | then i shipped back the bricked player. |
| 20:05:12 | preglow | Slasheri: tagcache? :> |
| 20:06:00 | Slasheri | preglow: will come when i found some time.. maybe at next week :) |
| 20:06:14 | Slasheri | hmm, i just discovered that the previous fix introduced a bug also.. |
| 20:06:28 | preglow | oh? |
| 20:06:40 | Slasheri | yep, but trying to fix that now :) |
| 20:07:31 | lostlogic | amiconn: ping |
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| 20:09:54 | Coolhawk | Someone here knows where it's possible to get more info on the hardware part of the iAudio X5 ? Have one here with a burned charger circuit. Have checked rockbox hardware section, but contains only main components. I'll need at least the schematics of the charger circuit in order to fix this. Or do I direct this to another channel ? If so, which one ? Furterhmore I made a post on iAudiophile here : |
| 20:09:56 | Coolhawk | http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7015 |
| 20:13:11 | lostlogic | Coolhawk: if you have the unit open... you could read the chips and do some research on what they are... and use that to help us and yourself :) |
| 20:15:09 | Coolhawk | Already done... Also researched all SMS markings, and also read all related hardware specs on rockbox for the main components on the X5 board, which helps a little, but not enough, since this is a triple layer board, it's not very easy |
| 20:15:41 | Coolhawk | Furthermore, the burned components was so burned that markings on them was gone, therefore I've no idea which kind of diodes they were |
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| 20:16:38 | Coolhawk | And yes, I've the unit open right here now, and tracing lines to both the DC/DC converter and the PMU5050 |
| 20:16:48 | Coolhawk | sorry PMU5060 |
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| 20:18:46 | lostlogic | The only person who might know more about the hardware would be LinusN as he's working on the bootloader for the X5. |
| 20:20:33 | amiconn | lostlogic: pong |
| 20:21:25 | Coolhawk | The unit is still working, but of course not charging after a "Samsung" charger which according to the guy "looked similar" was plugged, and of course poooofff and smoke. Another problem is that both the DC/DC converter and the PMU is programmable units, so even if I find out in the end that one of those are burned dead, then the problem of getting those programmed does offer a challenge. So thats why I needed proper schematics for the charge |
| 20:21:35 | amiconn | I think that if the improved error checking really causes codec failures, there must be something wrong with the codec change itself. |
| 20:22:09 | Coolhawk | LinusN, you happen to be around maybe ? |
| 20:22:43 | lostlogic | amiconn: :-\ all I know is that current CVS doesn't do codec song transitions, but without the codecs.c part of that commit, it does, I haven't had a chance to figure out the whole path of breakage yet. |
| 20:23:43 | preglow | you mean across different codecs? |
| 20:24:03 | lostlogic | preglow: yeah, during playback, a change from a song of one codec to song of another codec |
| 20:24:08 | amiconn | Huh? If you compile without the codecs.c changes only, I'd expect codecs to crash immediately |
| 20:24:09 | preglow | really now |
| 20:24:26 | lostlogic | amiconn: not the main patch, the "More consistent error handling" part |
| 20:24:39 | amiconn | ..b/c the old code assumed entry point == start of codec, while the new system has the entry point address stored in the header |
| 20:25:15 | amiconn | The strange thing is that I even tested codec transitions, and all of them worked fine |
| 20:26:08 | lostlogic | amiconn: I assumed it was my codec return path change as well, but I tested with that reverted and still had the brokenness |
| 20:26:42 | amiconn | If it is the improved error checking _only_, then something obviously overwrites the very start of the codec (where the codec magic is) |
| 20:27:11 | lostlogic | amiconn: that would make sense −− since it only happens if it's during playback, but not if it's during skip |
| 20:27:25 | amiconn | The only change for target is that it checks the magic |
| 20:27:40 | amiconn | sim checks are even more relaxed than before |
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| 20:30:54 | ModernExecutive | brb |
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| 20:51:43 | Slasheri | preglow: now i have found many bugs and trying to fix them.. :) |
| 20:52:13 | preglow | hahaha |
| 20:52:15 | preglow | goodgood |
| 20:52:16 | preglow | any new ones? |
| 20:52:51 | amiconn | lostlogic: Hmm, I made a test playlist, alternating between the same 2 tracks multiple times (one .ogg and one .mp2). The first time a track change was due, it skipped 4 (!) tracks with codec failure, then continued playing |
| 20:53:19 | Slasheri | yep, probably. And i also fixed that playback will stop if track cannot be changed immediately |
| 20:53:32 | lostlogic | amiconn: yeah, that's about what was seeing until I reverted the magic checking... what could be overwriting the beginning of the codec!? |
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| 20:54:35 | amiconn | Again, 4 tracks skipped, strange... |
| 20:56:21 | lostlogic | do the codecs themselves get put on the compressed audio buffer? |
| 20:56:45 | Bagder | yes |
| 20:56:46 | amiconn | Slasheri: Any idea? Or is that one of the bugs you already found? |
| 20:57:17 | lostlogic | could it be some of the tag parsing or stripping code that's effecting the codecs that are on the buffer? |
| 20:57:22 | Slasheri | amiconn: that sounds like a new problem |
| 20:57:24 | preglow | Slasheri: excellent, excellent |
| 20:58:00 | preglow | it is a new problem |
| 20:58:10 | Slasheri | amiconn: can you find from logf what was the cause for that codec failure? |
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| 20:58:42 | amiconn | The error checks don't logf(), but that could be added |
| 20:58:56 | * | amiconn never used logf() on iriver, and only once on archos |
| 20:58:57 | lostlogic | Slasheri: it is pretty surely the hdr->magic != CODEC_MAGIC check |
| 20:59:03 | Slasheri | ah. but it can fail before the codec ever gets loaded.. at the codec loader |
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| 20:59:20 | amiconn | The disk loading didn't change |
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| 21:01:13 | amiconn | Hmm, now even the playlist display got confused. It must have skipped an odd number of tracks this time (because it plays the same title again - in an alternating list), but the playlist didplay now shows the other track (!) |
| 21:02:33 | preglow | i just went from mp3 to ogg with no problems |
| 21:02:35 | Slasheri | hmm, weird |
| 21:07:25 | amiconn | Now it just sits here in the wps, not playing, but not stopping either |
| 21:08:19 | lostlogic | parts of the codec must be getting eaten, but why does it not have a problem when the magic check is absent? |
| 21:08:22 | amiconn | (and the 'follow playlist' position was wrong - in the dir of the other track - after hitting Stop) |
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| 21:11:44 | amiconn | lostlogic: Red builds... |
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| 21:12:58 | lostlogic | fixed |
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| 21:15:26 | lostlogic | was watchin' for them, thought I'd caught everywhere where platforms w/o charging were trying to check if a charger was inserted, but missed one. |
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| 21:18:01 | amiconn | lostlogic: Btw, you're right that building the other target's tool chains is a good idea |
| 21:18:37 | amiconn | I had an m68k compiler before I had an iriver, and I have an arm compiler even though I don't even plan to buy an iPod or gigabeat |
| 21:19:02 | lostlogic | amiconn: calmrisc16-elf and calmrisc16-unknown-elf are telling me they are invalid in binutils 2.16.1 |
| 21:19:24 | Bagder | they're from a special gcc dev package |
| 21:19:28 | amiconn | Hmm, that's the one platform I don't have a compiler for. |
| 21:19:33 | Bagder | the gmini porter was insane |
| 21:19:44 | lostlogic | hahaha, ok, I'll skip that one too then :) |
| 21:19:44 | Bagder | he did the gcc port as well |
| 21:19:49 | amiconn | The gmini port seems to be practically dead now |
| 21:20:14 | amiconn | ...and building calmrisc gcc requries a special gcc version as well |
| 21:20:24 | Bagder | it does? |
| 21:20:30 | amiconn | Did anyone even try to build the calmrisc gcc on cygwin |
| 21:20:33 | amiconn | ? |
| 21:20:36 | Bagder | I never had any problem |
| 21:20:42 | Bagder | on linux I mean |
| 21:21:05 | Bagder | I'd guess that I and jyp were about the only ones who did it ;-) |
| 21:21:39 | lostlogic | jyp being the person crazy enough to make a gcc port just to hack on their audio player? |
| 21:21:45 | Bagder | yes |
| 21:21:50 | Bagder | and an emulator |
| 21:22:03 | amiconn | Bagder: Hmm, that was misleading. Of course I mean that you need the gcc sources from gemoss in order to build calmrisc gcc |
| 21:22:05 | Bagder | that emulated the device, including ata and lcd |
| 21:22:12 | amiconn | ...not that you need a special host gcc |
| 21:22:17 | Bagder | amiconn: ah, right |
| 21:22:36 | lostlogic | what happened to him? |
| 21:22:53 | Bagder | his computer died |
| 21:23:16 | Bagder | he being unemployed, didn't want or could buy a new one just for this |
| 21:23:32 | lostlogic | gah, hate to hear about people that smart being not employed. |
| 21:23:52 | Bagder | and I bet he felt a bit lonely in his struggle |
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| 21:26:54 | lostlogic | is the conclusion that for arm gcc-4 is better than gcc-3? |
| 21:27:41 | Bagder | the verdict isn't yet carved in stone, but it seems to lean towards gcc4 |
| 21:28:14 | lostlogic | for build checks either one works though? |
| 21:28:26 | Bagder | oh sure |
| 21:28:34 | Bagder | we should build fine with either one anyway |
| 21:29:00 | lostlogic | haven't bought an iPod yet so it matters not how it runs yet. |
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| 21:34:40 | preglow | gcc4 at least makes code that works |
| 21:34:47 | preglow | it doesn't seem any less solid than gcc3 so far |
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| 21:35:23 | Slasheri | preglow: now it should work better :) |
| 21:35:26 | preglow | lostlogic: people that smart being unemployed is a good thing if they spend their time porting tools to entire platforms, heh |
| 21:35:30 | preglow | someone should just fund them |
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| 21:35:42 | preglow | Slasheri: what should work better, i don't know what you fixed, heh |
| 21:35:54 | Slasheri | preglow: the playback in general.. :) |
| 21:36:20 | preglow | goodie |
| 21:36:52 | preglow | ahh, great |
| 21:37:01 | preglow | tracks not stopping when you skip is a bit annoying |
| 21:37:19 | * | amiconn wonders what that 'playlist cachectrl' thread is |
| 21:38:05 | NightCat | How to use menu_init and menu functions in plugin API? |
| 21:38:53 | NightCat | Help?! |
| 21:39:58 | amiconn | At least I know that it has an excessively long name |
| 21:40:32 | NightCat | int (*menu_init)(const struct menu_item* mitems, int count, int (*callback)(int, int), const char *button1, const char *button2, const char *button3); |
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| 21:40:36 | lostlogic | ugh, how the still red blast... *fixes more* |
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| 21:48:05 | Rob2222 | whats the difference between the H100 and the H1x0 ? |
| 21:48:52 | preglow | less ram |
| 21:48:54 | preglow | smaller disk |
| 21:49:27 | Rob2222 | so for RB the diff is only the smaller ram |
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| 21:50:27 | preglow | pretty much, afaik |
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| 21:50:48 | amiconn | The s/pdif out led switch polarity is inverted |
| 21:51:40 | Slasheri | amiconn: the cache ctrl thread loads filename pointers from dircache on background |
| 21:51:56 | Slasheri | so going to playlist viewer for example doesn't require disk access |
| 21:52:21 | amiconn | I don't understand... |
| 21:52:34 | amiconn | Why does that need a whole extra thread? |
| 21:53:01 | amiconn | The playlist viewer works w/o extra thread on archos. |
| 21:53:06 | Slasheri | hmm.. that thing was slow enough to annoy user a few seconds when creating a playlist with hundreds of files |
| 21:53:14 | Slasheri | so the thread eliminates that problem |
| 21:53:30 | Slasheri | yep it works because archos doesn't implement dircache |
| 21:53:46 | amiconn | Hmm, is loading from the dircache actually slower than loading from disk ??? |
| 21:53:56 | lostlogic | why... why would rb->lcd_update() be a broken line on the archos player target but not on iRiver? |
| 21:54:12 | preglow | player uses charcell lcd |
| 21:54:19 | amiconn | erm, because the players have no lcd_update() |
| 21:54:39 | amiconn | In the core this is solved by defining an empty macro, but obviously this won't work in plugins |
| 21:54:42 | lostlogic | ooh so #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP. |
| 21:54:49 | preglow | yup |
| 21:55:05 | amiconn | (it would resolve to rb->; which is obviously invalid) |
| 21:55:52 | Slasheri | amiconn: no, but we call get_filename and after that find the pointer to that filename from dircache, so it requires disk access also |
| 21:56:33 | Slasheri | sorry but have to go now, cu tomorrow |
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| 22:06:03 | Bger_ | petur the brightness bugfix patch is commited |
| 22:06:11 | petur | 10x |
| 22:06:25 | Bger_ | heh for what ? |
| 22:06:35 | amiconn | Brightness 1 gives no light at all here as well (wanted to check that) |
| 22:06:54 | petur | I know |
| 22:07:06 | Bger_ | but amiconn didn't :P |
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| 22:08:18 | amiconn | Bger: 'here' is the word. There might be slight hardware differences... |
| 22:08:34 | petur | mine was black as well |
| 22:08:48 | Bger_ | amiconn ah, yes :) |
| 22:08:48 | petur | that's why I set minimum as 2 |
| 22:08:55 | amiconn | yes |
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| 22:09:28 | amiconn | Still, the display is actually readable in bright light even w/o backlight (but not good enough to be usable) |
| 22:09:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wish there was an option to revert to B&W when the backlight went off. |
| 22:10:27 | petur | amiconn: and that's good... I used that feature when I screwed up during implementation :) |
| 22:11:20 | petur | Paul_The_Nerd: what device? |
| 22:11:20 | amiconn | You could have used the voice UI as well |
| 22:11:36 | * | Bger_ wonders whether his eyes are so bad to see anything w/o backlight ... |
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| 22:12:22 | petur | Bger_: quite unusual for you to be around here at this time... |
| 22:12:32 | amiconn | Bger: If the backlight is actually off you can't see anything, b/c the display gets switched off as well |
| 22:12:43 | Bger_ | petur yep :) at last net @ home |
| 22:12:54 | amiconn | Unlock the brightness clamp, and set brightness to 0 or 1 |
| 22:13:31 | Bger_ | amiconn i know about the display switching off... |
| 22:13:42 | Bger_ | but there was time when it didn't switch off |
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| 22:14:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | petur: Well, I imagine it'd be nice on anything with a color screen, though I've only seen the Nano's screen, which even with the blue tinted backdrop is still very readable in moderate light. |
| 22:14:35 | petur | but not the H3xx :( |
| 22:14:48 | amiconn | It is possible to build colour LCDs which are readable w/o backlight, just these aren't very common yet |
| 22:14:57 | amiconn | (probably more expensive) |
| 22:15:16 | amiconn | The newer blackberry email clients have these |
| 22:15:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: The Nano's is very readable w/o backlight. |
| 22:15:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, podzilla defaults to having the backlight disabled completely until you enable it, so it'd be really frustrating if it wasn't. Heh. |
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| 22:28:53 | preglow | yep |
| 22:29:02 | preglow | nano has one of the better colour lcds i've seen |
| 22:30:14 | lostlogic | if I have recorder, ondio, player, ipod 4g and iRiver H(1,3)x0 keypads supported in a plugin, that's the requirement for being added yes? |
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| 22:30:30 | lostlogic | and do we like the dice plugin enough to include it? |
| 22:30:44 | Shebb | Is there an implementation of log2 in rockbox at all? All I am after is a very simple one to crunch numbers between 0.5 and 2 without much need for accuracy beyond several decimal places |
| 22:31:08 | amiconn | Ugha :/ |
| 22:31:26 | * | amiconn noticed a (slight) problem with coldfire gpio |
| 22:31:37 | Bger_ | amiconn ? |
| 22:32:10 | amiconn | Some gpio bits have separate input and output pins - that makes bit manipulation of other bits unsafe |
| 22:32:51 | amiconn | The 'out' part of such a split i/o will take the state of the 'in' part after manipulating other bits |
| 22:33:10 | lostlogic | yucky |
| 22:33:26 | amiconn | There's currently only one bit where this coldfire feature is actually used - gpio33 on H300 |
| 22:33:47 | amiconn | It's not critical, just that the remote backlight will take the state of the hold switch |
| 22:34:01 | amiconn | ...until the remote backlight thread corrects it |
| 22:35:09 | amiconn | The only solution I can think of is that we mirror the output bits in memory (iram) instead of direct port manipulation |
| 22:35:33 | amiconn | Then we can and() and or() this mirror, and output it to the port afterwards |
| 22:36:24 | lostlogic | GPIO or SDRAM faster? GPIO or IRAM faster? |
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| 22:42:34 | Chamois | hmmm |
| 22:42:37 | Chamois | hi |
| 22:42:42 | Chamois | i have a little question |
| 22:42:54 | Chamois | h340 seemms less powerful than my h140 |
| 22:42:59 | ashridah | fire away |
| 22:43:13 | ashridah | in what way? |
| 22:43:15 | Chamois | boost ration is more important on the h340 than on my h140 for the same mp3 file |
| 22:43:27 | amiconn | lostlogic: I'm not sure, but gpio speed should be the same as iram speed |
| 22:43:39 | Chamois | do ypu know why ? |
| 22:43:50 | ashridah | Chamois: that's possibly a side effect of the unit having to do more work to draw to the screen, perhaps |
| 22:43:54 | amiconn | ...so mirroring gpo will be *slighly* slower than manipilating it directly |
| 22:44:04 | Chamois | hmm yes |
| 22:44:21 | Chamois | but it is a very importahnt difference |
| 22:44:23 | lostlogic | gotcha |
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| 22:45:24 | lostlogic | Slasheri: Your latest commit _seems_ to be causing codec changes during playback to do that strange not error, not stop, not play thing that amiconn described. |
| 22:45:55 | amiconn | I didn't try the latest changes... |
| 22:46:12 | lostlogic | amiconn: I'd gotten that behavior now and then before, but now it seems to happen a lot. |
| 22:46:29 | lostlogic | I wish I could figure out the exact things that cause each. |
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| 22:47:29 | kkurbjun | Bagder: I'll have a patch in sourceforge in a bit fixing those problems |
| 22:47:40 | Bagder | great! |
| 22:47:47 | Bger_ | nite all |
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| 22:48:15 | Chamois | hmm for a 128k cbr mp3 file : boost ratio h340 = 8%; h140=0% |
| 22:48:18 | amiconn | hi kkurbjun |
| 22:48:22 | Chamois | it is a big difference |
| 22:48:25 | kkurbjun | amiconn: hi |
| 22:48:38 | amiconn | Do you know what causes rockboy to emit an unpleasant noise on startup? |
| 22:48:50 | kkurbjun | yeah, I've fixed that too in my new patch |
| 22:49:10 | preglow | Chamois: well, like he said, more work is needed for screed redraw on h3x0 |
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| 22:49:11 | kkurbjun | the sound buffers weren't initialized to 0 before I started playback |
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| 22:49:38 | Chamois | maybe the screen redraw can be canceled when the backlight is off |
| 22:49:43 | amiconn | yuck :/ |
| 22:49:47 | Rob2222 | draws MP3 128kbit VBR much more power than CBR? |
| 22:49:58 | Bagder | Chamois: it is |
| 22:50:10 | preglow | Rob2222: there is no such thing as 128kbs vbr |
| 22:50:11 | Chamois | ah |
| 22:50:13 | preglow | unless you mean average bitrate |
| 22:50:22 | * | amiconn wonders what statement of Bagder's kkurbjun referred to |
| 22:50:30 | Chamois | si it is not that wich cuases the boost ratio differnece |
| 22:50:48 | kkurbjun | he was asking for the patch fix on sourceforge and misticriver |
| 22:51:07 | preglow | well, there's only so much that can cause this difference |
| 22:51:09 | preglow | the cpu is the same |
| 22:51:20 | preglow | the ram is the same too, afaik |
| 22:51:24 | Chamois | yes |
| 22:51:30 | Chamois | so i thought the boost wll be the same |
| 22:52:08 | Bagder | but in the case it shuts off the lcd, how can you see the boost? |
| 22:52:22 | lostlogic | gah, it's every codec change it freezes now instead of giving codec failure. |
| 22:52:52 | Chamois | i let the file play a long time |
| 22:52:53 | preglow | codec changes still work just dandy here |
| 22:53:03 | Chamois | and i see afer |
| 22:53:10 | xboxintel | i have an unusual task that i need to be executed,it revolves around a 40 gig hdd that i got out of a creative mp3 player,i want to unlock it and use it in my laptop,the only way i think it can be unlock is by hotswapping with my xbox and pc with the use of a 3.5" ide to 2.5" adpater" that i ordered,any ideas and thoughts would be great ^_^ |
| 22:53:11 | lostlogic | preglow: :( |
| 22:53:14 | Chamois | without touch the both player |
| 22:53:15 | * | amiconn just started playing the very same .ogg album on both h140 and h340, watching the audio thread... |
| 22:53:18 | Bagder | Chamois: the boost percentage doesn't take very long time into account, iirc |
| 22:53:28 | Chamois | i know |
| 22:53:28 | kkurbjun | amiconn: turns outthat wasn't the problem. I thought I fixed it, but it's not working right.. I'll have to look into that more |
| 22:53:29 | preglow | i'm switching codecs like mad, works just lovely |
| 22:53:34 | Chamois | but i'm sure that i'am saying |
| 22:53:42 | preglow | this is with the bleeding edge build straight after slasheris first fix |
| 22:53:43 | lostlogic | preglow: on H3x0? |
| 22:53:46 | preglow | h1x0 |
| 22:54:09 | amiconn | Bagder: The boost percentage averages across the whole time you stay in 'View audio thread' |
| 22:54:15 | Bagder | aha |
| 22:54:17 | lostlogic | hmmmmm could it have to do with me using a big playlist formed from the root of the player vs. you using dir mode? |
| 22:54:24 | preglow | dir mode indeed |
| 22:54:27 | amiconn | If you leave and re-enter, averaging starts again |
| 22:54:58 | Chamois | amiconn : so your test is concluant ? |
| 22:55:22 | preglow | i could try the very latest build as well, i suppose |
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| 22:56:29 | amiconn | lostlogic: I also used dir mode resp. a small playlist (6 entries) and it happened... |
| 22:57:00 | Rob2222 | preglow: Yes, i meaned abr what the same is as variable bit rate, at least i thought |
| 22:57:23 | preglow | well, slasheris fixed did not work as intended |
| 22:57:32 | preglow | playback does not stop when i select a file that is not buffered |
| 22:58:04 | amiconn | Chamois: There's a clear difference. With the first album track, boost ratio is ~28% on H140 but ~39% on H340 |
| 22:58:14 | lostlogic | amiconn: LCD always on? |
| 22:58:16 | Chamois | so i'm not crazy |
| 22:58:19 | amiconn | yup |
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| 22:58:30 | Chamois | me with the LCD always off |
| 22:58:41 | Chamois | but when i want to see the ratio |
| 22:58:47 | amiconn | I'll re-check with LCD off, to see whether drawing matters |
| 22:59:05 | Chamois | any idea for this differnece ? |
| 22:59:13 | lostlogic | nothing comes to mind yet. |
| 22:59:14 | Chamois | except the screen redraw |
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| 23:00:04 | preglow | i just can't provoke this bug |
| 23:00:06 | preglow | no way |
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| 23:00:21 | lostlogic | preglow: you're _seeking/playing_ not _skipping_ between codecs? |
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| 23:03:11 | amiconn | lostlogic: The screen drawing (to the framebuffer) also happens when the lcd is off, just the transfer to the lcd doesn't happen |
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| 23:03:58 | Bagder | disabling them too will be trickier |
| 23:04:53 | preglow | lostlogic: i'm skipping between tracks |
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| 23:05:05 | lostlogic | preglow: skipping doesn't cause the problem, only in play mode. |
| 23:05:09 | preglow | switching between mp3, ogg, flac, musepack |
| 23:05:10 | preglow | right |
| 23:05:15 | preglow | now why the hell would that be= |
| 23:05:36 | lostlogic | some part of the codec buffer is being written to when it ought not. |
| 23:05:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Like, if it reaches the end of the track naturally (you can seek to within a couple seconds of it) it occurs. It's happening here too |
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| 23:06:01 | lostlogic | when the previous song reads its last frame? |
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| 23:11:37 | amiconn | preglow: Do you know whether arm/iPod does have SDRAM burst mode in some way? |
| 23:12:28 | NicoFR | Paprica: very nice patch |
| 23:12:30 | NicoFR | i like it |
| 23:12:37 | lostlogic | amiconn: line writes in lcd-16bit.c on your mind? |
| 23:12:50 | amiconn | yes |
| 23:12:53 | preglow | amiconn: i have no idea |
| 23:13:07 | preglow | amiconn: would be weird to have a multiple write/read instruction and not support burst mode |
| 23:13:10 | lostlogic | amiconn: I was _just_ looking into that :) |
| 23:13:11 | amiconn | The internal bitmap format would have to be changed for this to work best |
| 23:13:34 | amiconn | monochrome bitmap format I mean, also fonts |
| 23:13:42 | preglow | amiconn: why? |
| 23:14:54 | amiconn | If the bits are oriented horizontally, they would map to adjacent pixels in the framebuffer |
| 23:15:52 | amiconn | ..and even, 8 bits = 8 (mono) pixels matches 8(pixels) * 16(bit/pixel) == 128 bit == 1 line (!) |
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| 23:17:35 | preglow | line size is always the same? |
| 23:18:03 | lostlogic | I used to have a hard time understanding why memory bandwidth had to be so huge on graphics cards. Then I saw how much it takes just to deal with a small 16bit framebuffer. |
| 23:18:05 | amiconn | coldfire line size is 16 bytes |
| 23:19:00 | Paprica | NicoFR: thak you |
| 23:19:03 | Paprica | thank |
| 23:19:04 | Paprica | * |
| 23:19:36 | NicoFR | do you have any plans for making it even better ? |
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| 23:19:42 | preglow | lostlogic: yes, do get kind of a feeling how important it is in pcs... |
| 23:20:17 | Paprica | mm do you heva ideas? |
| 23:20:47 | NicoFR | paerhaps centering texts (title and clock) vertically in the status bar |
| 23:20:55 | NicoFR | and also relative positionning |
| 23:21:17 | NicoFR | ie defining an order, not having to set absolute coordinates |
| 23:21:35 | Paprica | mm ok |
| 23:21:55 | Paprica | if i can do somthing like the wps |
| 23:22:06 | Paprica | (loading costume images) |
| 23:22:08 | NicoFR | that would be the best |
| 23:22:12 | Paprica | yep |
| 23:22:21 | Paprica | but i dont know if i can do that |
| 23:23:45 | NicoFR | probably an easy one : add one pixel under the bottom line so that the text below doesn't touch it |
| 23:24:19 | Paprica | ok |
| 23:24:56 | amiconn | Hmm, boost ratios still different with display off on H340 |
| 23:25:14 | Paprica | good night |
| 23:25:21 | NicoFR | gnite |
| 23:25:24 | NicoFR | going too ;) |
| 23:25:26 | lostlogic | amiconn: so it's the framebuffer ops that are causing the diff most likely? |
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| 23:25:37 | amiconn | Same track as before, but (1) builds synced, (2) all voice turned off as well |
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| 23:25:49 | amiconn | 27% on H140 this time, and 35% on H340 |
| 23:26:09 | amiconn | Trying again with bl on... |
| 23:26:18 | preglow | i always knew my h1x0 was the coolest |
| 23:27:00 | muesli__ | true... |
| 23:27:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 23:28:44 | Rob2222 | is there any target for RB with a 2,5" HDD? (without archos) ? |
| 23:29:28 | amiconn | nope |
| 23:32:31 | amiconn | 39% on H340 with backlight on |
| 23:32:42 | amiconn | (H140 same as before) |
| 23:33:24 | lostlogic | amiconn: think we could exploit the LCDADDR macro to disable framebuffer writes when the display is off (ie. #define LCDADDR(x,y) (display_on?&lcd_framebuffer[(y)][(x)]:thebitbucket) or something)? |
| 23:33:49 | amiconn | That won't work. |
| 23:34:06 | amiconn | This way we would loose everything drawn during display off |
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| 23:34:30 | lostlogic | besides, when the result of the macro is incremented it would be effed up... |
| 23:34:31 | preglow | it'd also slow down all writes |
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| 23:35:26 | amiconn | I really think that switching the mono bitmap format could help |
| 23:35:48 | preglow | but ok |
| 23:35:50 | preglow | time for bed, alter |
| 23:35:54 | preglow | later, even |
| 23:35:58 | lostlogic | 'night |
| 23:36:01 | Bagder | ... and that would more or less require linuxstb's bmp build to get used first |
| 23:36:02 | amiconn | (preglow: Psst, this would also help porting to greyscale iPods ;) ) |
| 23:37:09 | amiconn | This would also allow a pattern lookup table for 2 (or even 4 with long longs) pixels |
| 23:37:35 | amiconn | Nah, 4 would probably be overkill, it would cause slowdowns when colours are changed a lot |
| 23:39:43 | amiconn | In fact bmp2rb can already geneate the reqired mono bitmap format −− would be the same as playergfx (!) |
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| 23:44:43 | amiconn | convbdf would need to be extended, and the font structure should be extended by a font format member |
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| 23:56:22 | Zoric | I updated my player to the latest build today and it's behaving strangely. When its supposed to begin playing the next track it just pauses and does nothing... It doesnt help to press pause and play again... |
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