| 00:00:47 | Febs | In any event, let me see what I can come up with. I am going to be doing a lot of traveling over the next few weeks/months, so I'll have time at night to kill. |
| 00:01:10 | Febs | There's no harm in me taking a look at the issue and putting out a proposal for comment. |
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| 00:02:32 | Febs | Or maybe I'll just create my own "H300 Optimized" keymapping and post it only on Mistic River. |
| 00:02:34 | * | Febs ducks. |
| 00:02:44 | preglow | hahahaha |
| 00:02:47 | petur | lol |
| 00:02:54 | preglow | will it be blinking and have fancy colours? |
| 00:02:57 | preglow | please, pretty please :/ |
| 00:03:07 | Febs | Of course. I'll install LEDs in the buttons! |
| 00:03:08 | BHSPitLappy2 | a keymapping? |
| 00:03:12 | BHSPitLappy2 | heh. |
| 00:03:18 | petur | random mapping at startup! |
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| 00:07:32 | b0br | lostlogic: seemlessness is unpleasant issue, but when trying to A-B wav the result is very inaccurate and the loop is usualy much shorter.. |
| 00:09:20 | LinusN | amiconn: so you want archos recorder to be able to load color bmp's? |
| 00:09:28 | preglow | that's because the reported position is inaccurate, i'd believe |
| 00:09:30 | preglow | due to buffering |
| 00:09:49 | lostlogic | hmm... yes, I may need to tweak where the markers are set as well. |
| 00:10:01 | lostlogic | b0br: the problem is worth with wav than other codecs? |
| 00:10:28 | lostlogic | s/worth/worse/ |
| 00:10:49 | amiconn | LinusN: Yes. Of course, the format parameter will be dontcare, as native format == mono format |
| 00:11:07 | LinusN | ok |
| 00:16:20 | b0br | lostlogic: I've tested only wave so far, but now I tried mp3 and it's the same (second mark is set wrong and still changing).. |
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| 00:16:42 | lostlogic | seems to me like the first mark is set wrong, not the second :-\ |
| 00:17:51 | preglow | amiconn: btw, to fix that long_call attribute problem i had, i would have to move all the ICODE_ATTR stuff to the header files, yes= |
| 00:17:54 | preglow | ? |
| 00:18:10 | b0br | lostlogic: :) may be, but the end is cut (about 2 sec) |
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| 00:18:18 | amiconn | I think so, but I don't know for sure |
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| 00:20:35 | lostlogic | b0br: right, the end is cut so the B marker is broken...? |
| 00:21:17 | preglow | amiconn: 'cause we really need to get rid of this bloody long-call problem |
| 00:21:21 | preglow | it's turning up everywhere |
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| 00:24:19 | b0br | I don't know, you are the programmer.. I gave up C five years ago, because it was too complicate for me :) |
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| 00:25:08 | preglow | it's dave___! |
| 00:25:20 | linuxstb | Almost... |
| 00:28:18 | preglow | did anyone try to fix that dircache alignment bug, btw? |
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| 00:35:25 | preglow | linuxstb: new button driver seems to be heaps better |
| 00:35:29 | preglow | i can press a button at any time now |
| 00:42:08 | eEye | The iFP port has been commited to Rockbox CVS and new versions will be available only there. |
| 00:42:18 | eEye | that is one Tomek's homepage, how do i access that now? |
| 00:44:36 | steveb | i hate rockbox. |
| 00:45:03 | muesli__ | lol |
| 00:45:11 | * | petur takes large hammer |
| 00:45:12 | steveb | ever since i found the sudoku and other game plugins i have been paying less and less attention in lectures |
| 00:45:31 | steveb | its evil i tell you! |
| 00:45:37 | * | muesli__ nodes |
| 00:46:06 | * | petur hands large hammer to steveb and points at his DAP |
| 00:46:20 | steveb | i love it too much :( |
| 00:46:34 | petur | rockbox addiction... hehe |
| 00:46:55 | steveb | someone should start a support group |
| 00:47:55 | preglow | linuxstb: it's somewhat better, at least |
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| 00:48:04 | preglow | it's still got some crazy ass glitches that's hard to explain |
| 00:48:05 | lostlogic | Slasheri: why does codec_seek_complete_callback call pcmbuf_play_stop()? |
| 00:48:07 | Kyl3 | Hey is there anyway to have the H300 boot Rockbox when you charge it? I hate having to set my clock every time |
| 00:48:27 | steveb | Kyl3: ? |
| 00:48:30 | lostlogic | Kyl3: probably next bootloader version. |
| 00:48:47 | Kyl3 | oh ok |
| 00:48:52 | preglow | steveb: bejeweled is particularily dangerous to me |
| 00:48:54 | steveb | oh. i think i have only plugged the charger in while rockbox is running |
| 00:49:20 | steveb | preglow: sudoku has got me. i was addicted to it before rockbox but limited by only having paper copies. |
| 00:49:36 | preglow | i've never even tried sudoku |
| 00:49:37 | steveb | the only annoying thing is that i cant do any of the ones i have on my iRiver... they are all too difficult |
| 00:49:50 | steveb | also the blocks game is good |
| 00:49:57 | Kyl3 | paper sudoku usually has numbers filled in right? |
| 00:51:52 | steveb | the rockbox version does as well |
| 00:51:58 | steveb | you just have to find them on the net first ;) |
| 00:52:21 | steveb | if you run it from the plugin browser it allows you to create new games (ie, from a paper version) |
| 00:52:24 | Kyl3 | im bad at sudoku.. idk how to play it |
| 00:52:32 | steveb | its not that hard |
| 00:53:36 | Kyl3 | whats that thing on the side for |
| 00:56:10 | preglow | linuxstb: would you like to test a bootloader using this new code? |
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| 01:00:22 | Rob2222 | Hi ModernExecutive ;) |
| 01:00:26 | ModernExecutive | hi rob |
| 01:00:41 | Rob2222 | How much players now? 5 :) |
| 01:00:56 | ModernExecutive | still just 1. ups didn't make a drop today |
| 01:02:35 | Rob2222 | hehe ;) |
| 01:02:57 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Have you took a look at the US FW again? |
| 01:03:07 | preglow | i love code that just wont behave |
| 01:05:51 | preglow | Slasheri: playback still isn't stopped when i load an unbuffered track |
| 01:07:57 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb: hey-lo? |
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| 01:13:09 | Jungti1234 | hi |
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| 01:21:53 | * | preglow out |
| 01:21:54 | preglow | later |
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| 01:26:57 | Rob2222 | lol ^^ |
| 01:28:20 | Jungti1234 | ^^? |
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| 01:31:23 | Rob2222 | ^^ <= twitch eyebrows |
| 01:31:47 | Jungti1234 | I know. :) |
| 01:31:51 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
| 01:32:46 | Rob2222 | Jungti1234: The display that changes color when looking from different angles up and down, is that the new or the old` |
| 01:33:40 | Jungti1234 | uh? |
| 01:33:49 | Rob2222 | H300 |
| 01:33:50 | Jungti1234 | ah yes |
| 01:33:53 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 01:34:03 | Rob2222 | i got the 2 pics of the 2 different displays |
| 01:34:16 | Rob2222 | but i couldnt see, how to recognize |
| 01:34:16 | Jungti1234 | Send me. |
| 01:34:34 | Rob2222 | no, i mean i saw the 2 pics from you. |
| 01:34:46 | Rob2222 | my girlfriend killed my new 280 euro digi cam :( |
| 01:34:54 | Rob2222 | cant take a shoot |
| 01:34:55 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 01:35:23 | Jungti1234 | um.. |
| 01:35:31 | Rob2222 | At your display, does the color sightly chanes when lookinf fom up and down? |
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| 01:35:44 | ashridah | Rob2222: killed it? how? |
| 01:36:10 | Rob2222 | the iriver fw blue ... its totally blue and from up/down and almost white from the other side |
| 01:36:15 | Jungti1234 | what is 'lookinf fom' |
| 01:36:38 | ashridah | Jungti1234: a misspelling. he meant "looking from" |
| 01:36:40 | Rob2222 | ashridah: Sony DSC P200 fallen 50cm .. exact landed on the optics |
| 01:36:46 | Rob2222 | "looking from" |
| 01:36:50 | ashridah | Rob2222: ouch :( |
| 01:36:50 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1620 |
| 01:37:25 | Jungti1234 | Rob2222: yes |
| 01:38:06 | Rob2222 | Jungti1234: OK then I have the same display. |
| 01:38:06 | Jungti1234 | My LCD looks like white when see left and right. |
| 01:38:13 | Rob2222 | Ok |
| 01:38:21 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1771 |
| 01:38:29 | Jungti1234 | Test picture |
| 01:38:30 | Rob2222 | and no color changes from up and down? |
| 01:38:40 | Rob2222 | then we have different LCDs |
| 01:38:41 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 01:38:50 | Jungti1234 | um? |
| 01:39:18 | muesli__ | Jungti1234 what are those pix symbolize? |
| 01:39:32 | Rob2222 | at my unit the color changes at up and down moves, not left and right |
| 01:39:38 | Jungti1234 | Do you have horizontal LCD? |
| 01:40:08 | Jungti1234 | muesli__: It's picture to test LCD. |
| 01:40:13 | Rob2222 | i dont know how decide ^^ |
| 01:40:19 | muesli__ | which lcd? |
| 01:40:28 | Jungti1234 | H300 |
| 01:40:47 | muesli__ | did rbx produce it? |
| 01:40:49 | Jungti1234 | New LCD(horizontal LCD), Old LCD(vertical LCD) |
| 01:41:24 | Jungti1234 | It's hardware problem. |
| 01:41:48 | Jungti1234 | Rob2222: hmm.. |
| 01:42:04 | muesli__ | Jungti1234 did rbx produce it? |
| 01:42:12 | Rob2222 | what means horizontal and vertical? the viewing angle? |
| 01:42:39 | Rob2222 | i think im to stupid to understand |
| 01:42:42 | Jungti1234 | muesli__: I don't know it's what meaning. |
| 01:42:45 | Rob2222 | or its to late |
| 01:43:03 | Jungti1234 | heh |
| 01:43:07 | muesli__ | how did you make it? |
| 01:43:18 | Jungti1234 | why? |
| 01:43:29 | muesli__ | just curios |
| 01:43:34 | Jungti1234 | Downloaded in Internet. |
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| 01:46:33 | Jungti1234 | Iriver's fans hate that I talk LCD's problem. |
| 01:46:46 | Jungti1234 | They attack me. |
| 01:46:53 | muesli__ | wish lcd problem? |
| 01:47:46 | Rob2222 | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=11751&highlight=horizontal+vertical+lcd |
| 01:48:01 | Jungti1234 | ow |
| 01:48:09 | Rob2222 | the 4 pics at this thread |
| 01:48:17 | Rob2222 | are first generation units |
| 01:48:25 | Rob2222 | you see it at the cover afaik |
| 01:48:45 | Jungti1234 | wow! |
| 01:49:03 | Jungti1234 | Pictures prove LCD's problem! |
| 01:49:27 | Rob2222 | i had both units |
| 01:49:34 | Rob2222 | that with the cover at the thread |
| 01:50:14 | Rob2222 | was in one of the first full retrail boxes with cradle, nonlcd remote and external battery pack |
| 01:50:37 | Rob2222 | then they switch to the H340SE package without these 3 things |
| 01:50:40 | Rob2222 | afaik |
| 01:51:07 | Jungti1234 | hm.. |
| 01:51:22 | Rob2222 | they have different covers |
| 01:51:24 | Jungti1234 | H340SE? |
| 01:51:28 | Rob2222 | yep |
| 01:51:33 | Rob2222 | at least here in germany |
| 01:51:41 | Jungti1234 | I don't know it. |
| 01:51:48 | Jungti1234 | Do you have picture? |
| 01:51:59 | Rob2222 | H340SE = H340 package without: NONLCD-Remote, Cradle, external battery pack |
| 01:52:15 | Jungti1234 | whahaha |
| 01:52:28 | Rob2222 | http://cgi.ebay.de/iriver-H340-kaum-benutzt-fast-neu-in-OVP_W0QQitemZ7582864175QQcategoryZ96331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <= new scheme |
| 01:53:35 | Jungti1234 | that is h340se? |
| 01:53:52 | Rob2222 | http://alan.lin.name/image/20040906h340-01.jpg <= old scheme |
| 01:54:18 | Rob2222 | at least my SE package had the new cover |
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| 01:54:30 | Rob2222 | i cant guarentee thats always so |
| 01:56:53 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 01:57:12 | Jungti1234 | I have it. |
| 01:57:43 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/954 |
| 01:58:10 | Jungti1234 | I have Fractal Black |
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| 02:01:43 | Rob2222 | yeah |
| 02:01:56 | Rob2222 | that fractal units were in the first packages |
| 02:02:07 | BHSPitMonkey | hey akaidiot... |
| 02:02:31 | Rob2222 | seems like iriver got the problem and changed the polarisation at later units |
| 02:02:32 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 02:02:39 | Rob2222 | no? |
| 02:03:03 | Jungti1234 | Pinspot came out first. |
| 02:03:18 | Jungti1234 | And fractal came out. |
| 02:03:28 | Rob2222 | sure? |
| 02:03:31 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 02:03:39 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 02:03:48 | Jungti1234 | And at case, it's two. |
| 02:04:06 | Rob2222 | i searched for a unit with full accesoires. at the time it only gaves the SE with less accesoires |
| 02:04:23 | Rob2222 | and the "old" unit i got was fractal |
| 02:04:30 | Jungti1234 | http://www.iriver.co.kr/data/notice/h300case/a14.jpg |
| 02:04:46 | Rob2222 | then i got a new SE package from iriver for my bricked H140 and this was pinspot |
| 02:05:01 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 02:05:03 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 02:05:04 | Rob2222 | yes, that case was in my SE package |
| 02:05:27 | Jungti1234 | Pinspot isn't made now. |
| 02:05:34 | Rob2222 | http://images.digitalshop.ru/big/tovar/iriver_case_for_h3xx.jpg <= an this in the first |
| 02:05:45 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 02:05:52 | Rob2222 | all units i see at local stores are pinspot |
| 02:06:05 | Rob2222 | but well, ok, i dont know which units are manufactured. |
| 02:06:12 | Jungti1234 | pinspot + old case + old LCD |
| 02:06:18 | Rob2222 | no |
| 02:06:21 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 02:06:29 | Jungti1234 | why? |
| 02:06:32 | Rob2222 | so my posted cas is the new? |
| 02:06:39 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 02:06:45 | Jungti1234 | old case |
| 02:07:28 | Jungti1234 | http://images.digitalshop.ru/big/tovar/iriver_case_for_h3xx.jpg <- old, first |
| 02:07:33 | Rob2222 | http://cgi.ebay.de/NEUER-iriver-H340-HDD-Player-ERWEITERTE-AUSSTATTUNG_W0QQitemZ7582689724QQcategoryZ96332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <= This was my first H340. Fractal, 1-part case |
| 02:07:36 | Jungti1234 | http://www.iriver.co.kr/data/notice/h300case/a14.jpg <- new |
| 02:07:57 | Rob2222 | yes and in my package was a fractal player with old case |
| 02:08:11 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 02:08:12 | Rob2222 | the pinspot player came with the new case |
| 02:08:17 | Rob2222 | 1 year later |
| 02:08:22 | Rob2222 | for me |
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| 02:08:39 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1785 |
| 02:08:50 | Jungti1234 | new packages |
| 02:09:40 | Rob2222 | we have no ext. battery pack here at the latest packages and pinspor players ;) |
| 02:09:50 | Rob2222 | ok, so it differs from country to country |
| 02:09:51 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 02:09:55 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 02:10:16 | Rob2222 | i thought the SE special Edition packages had all pinspot. |
| 02:10:17 | Jungti1234 | I didn't hear about H340 SE. |
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| 02:10:39 | Rob2222 | http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a91520.html |
| 02:10:52 | Jungti1234 | 1. pinspot + old case + old lcd |
| 02:11:01 | Jungti1234 | 2. fractal + old case + old lcd |
| 02:11:01 | Rob2222 | SE here in germany only means thats a lower price package without remote, cradle, battery pack |
| 02:11:11 | Jungti1234 | 3. fractal + new case + old lcd |
| 02:11:19 | Jungti1234 | 4. fractal + new case + old lcd |
| 02:11:27 | Jungti1234 | ow |
| 02:11:34 | Jungti1234 | 4. fractal + new case + new lcd |
| 02:11:41 | Jungti1234 | I have 3 |
| 02:11:42 | Rob2222 | but SE replaced the normal package. |
| 02:11:56 | Rob2222 | I had Fractal + old case + unknown display |
| 02:11:57 | Rob2222 | and |
| 02:12:05 | Jungti1234 | why unknown? |
| 02:12:14 | Rob2222 | have pinspot + new case + new display |
| 02:12:27 | Jungti1234 | Try check. |
| 02:12:36 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
| 02:12:37 | Rob2222 | i didnt knew anything about the display issues as i sold the player |
| 02:12:44 | Jungti1234 | pinspot + new case + new lcd? |
| 02:12:52 | Rob2222 | but i knew they looked difference |
| 02:12:57 | Rob2222 | the displays |
| 02:13:12 | Rob2222 | i liked the display of the fractal player |
| 02:13:20 | Rob2222 | it was brighter |
| 02:13:22 | Jungti1234 | The Korea doesn't have a person who buy like the package. |
| 02:13:23 | Rob2222 | yes |
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| 02:13:43 | Rob2222 | pinspot + new case + new lcd my current player |
| 02:14:27 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 02:14:29 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 02:14:41 | Jungti1234 | different.... |
| 02:14:57 | Rob2222 | i remember as i sold one player and had to decide which |
| 02:15:19 | Rob2222 | i liked more the pinspot than the fractal |
| 02:15:32 | Jungti1234 | me too |
| 02:15:40 | Rob2222 | but the fractal display was whiter when looking direct from front |
| 02:16:46 | Rob2222 | do you know if there are fractal H320, too? |
| 02:16:57 | Jungti1234 | I have it. |
| 02:17:15 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
| 02:17:26 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 02:17:27 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data15/2006/1/21/163/a12.jpg |
| 02:17:46 | Jungti1234 | different interface.. |
| 02:18:30 | Rob2222 | hmm? |
| 02:18:40 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data9/2005/12/5/157/b11.jpg |
| 02:19:08 | Rob2222 | that was a prototype, afaik |
| 02:19:18 | Jungti1234 | It planed at begin. |
| 02:19:32 | Rob2222 | would like to have such case :) |
| 02:19:50 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 02:20:13 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1799 |
| 02:21:48 | Rob2222 | are units of those sold? |
| 02:22:03 | Rob2222 | ./made |
| 02:22:33 | Jungti1234 | I don't understand |
| 02:22:50 | Rob2222 | are units of those build/sold? |
| 02:22:57 | Rob2222 | withe silver buttons |
| 02:22:59 | Rob2222 | with |
| 02:23:01 | Jungti1234 | build |
| 02:23:12 | Rob2222 | but not sold official? |
| 02:23:13 | Jungti1234 | Wasn't sold. |
| 02:23:16 | Rob2222 | ah ok |
| 02:23:26 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 02:24:07 | Jungti1234 | I'm going to make out voice file. |
| 02:24:27 | Jungti1234 | Do you know whether you make it how? |
| 02:24:47 | Rob2222 | how to make a voice file? no, i dont know. |
| 02:24:55 | Jungti1234 | hm |
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| 02:25:58 | Jungti1234 | I want that people who use H300 know LCD problem. |
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| 02:33:58 | Rob2222 | Hmm. |
| 02:34:07 | Rob2222 | Have you tried to RMA your player? |
| 02:34:15 | Jungti1234 | RMA? |
| 02:34:34 | Rob2222 | guarantee |
| 02:34:39 | Rob2222 | changed by iriver |
| 02:34:43 | Rob2222 | new unit |
| 02:35:04 | Jungti1234 | fix? |
| 02:35:22 | Rob2222 | Have you called iriver and said that you want a new player? |
| 02:35:33 | Jungti1234 | no |
| 02:35:39 | Jungti1234 | I want new lcd |
| 02:36:19 | Rob2222 | maybe they change your player to a player with a new lcd. |
| 02:36:39 | Jungti1234 | But, iriver didn't recognize LCD problem. |
| 02:36:58 | Rob2222 | I would like to know, if all problem-LCDs are in the fractal case |
| 02:37:18 | Jungti1234 | http://club.iriver.co.kr/digital/bbs_free_view.asp?page=1&item=&word=&free_board_idx=231459 |
| 02:37:21 | Jungti1234 | iOceon |
| 02:37:25 | Rob2222 | then simply sell yours and buy a new(used) one. |
| 02:37:30 | Jungti1234 | He attacks me. |
| 02:37:51 | Rob2222 | i cant read that |
| 02:38:01 | Jungti1234 | you can read 'iOceon' |
| 02:38:17 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 02:38:39 | Rob2222 | no i cant |
| 02:38:48 | Jungti1234 | anyway |
| 02:38:52 | Rob2222 | maybe i have the wrong font |
| 02:39:08 | Jungti1234 | Iriver doesn't recognize. |
| 02:39:33 | Rob2222 | http://blog.iriver.co.kr/jungti1234 <= is that your case? |
| 02:39:56 | Jungti1234 | I don't manage it. |
| 02:40:05 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 02:41:10 | Jungti1234 | He is iriver's follower. |
| 02:41:37 | Jungti1234 | Fiery fan] |
| 02:42:35 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 02:48:47 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IAudioEx5MenuStructure |
| 02:48:48 | Jungti1234 | um.. |
| 02:56:56 | muesli__ | could somebody test my ftp? |
| 02:57:06 | Jungti1234 | me |
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| 03:44:31 | Jungti1234 | wow |
| 03:49:11 | Jungti1234 | http://mt.dreamwiz.com/review/review.asp?idx=A009&revID=419&p=367573 |
| 03:49:53 | eEye | that thing is cool looking |
| 03:50:40 | eEye | wish icould read that tho |
| 03:51:52 | Jungti1234 | There is an opportunity that use it into free of charge. |
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| 04:19:03 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
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| 04:19:39 | Jungti1234 | Rockboy fullscreen looks like strange. |
| 04:20:10 | Membrillo | yeah, i think it also runs slower |
| 04:20:18 | Membrillo | i dont use full screen |
| 04:20:23 | Jungti1234 | nono |
| 04:20:54 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 04:21:10 | Membrillo | no? |
| 04:21:10 | BHSPitLappy | hmm |
| 04:21:12 | Jungti1234 | Ratio doesn't fit. |
| 04:21:17 | BHSPitLappy | that device you pasted before |
| 04:21:18 | Membrillo | yes i know |
| 04:21:27 | BHSPitLappy | the record buttin is the same as the A-B repeat button |
| 04:21:28 | Membrillo | it looks strange and stretched |
| 04:21:40 | Jungti1234 | yeah |
| 04:21:41 | BHSPitLappy | wasn't somebody complaining about that button assignment in rb earlier? |
| 04:22:31 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 04:22:40 | ashridah | BHSPitLappy: half of that stems from rockbox not having the ability to have per-arch labels, so what's treated as "play" on rockbox ends up being 'navi' |
| 04:22:52 | ashridah | but they were kinda thrown together really early on :) |
| 04:23:02 | ashridah | not much thought went into it |
| 04:23:17 | BHSPitLappy | true |
| 04:28:10 | Jungti1234 | I wonder whether I make out voice file how. |
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| 04:32:43 | BHSPitLappy | :/ |
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| 04:43:46 | BHSPitLappy | hola again, akaidiot ... |
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| 05:26:05 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb: ping |
| 05:27:02 | aegray | blech |
| 05:27:04 | aegray | erm |
| 05:28:11 | | Part Sando |
| 05:28:27 | * | BHSPitMonkey shoos away aegray |
| 05:28:37 | aegray | i'll shoo you away |
| 05:28:43 | aegray | just try me |
| 05:28:43 | BHSPitMonkey | no |
| 05:28:46 | BHSPitMonkey | i was here first |
| 05:29:24 | aegray | fine. |
| 05:29:31 | * | aegray types /kickban somewhere esle |
| 05:29:45 | BHSPitMonkey | + |
| 05:29:55 | aegray | meep |
| 05:30:11 | BHSPitMonkey | boo. |
| 05:30:26 | aegray | keep talkin |
| 05:30:37 | BHSPitMonkey | you started it |
| 05:30:44 | aegray | probably did |
| 05:30:45 | aegray | as usual |
| 05:31:04 | BHSPitMonkey | restrain your bodily noises next time. |
| 05:31:16 | aegray | my bodily noises don't tranfer to irc |
| 05:31:20 | aegray | i wish they di9d |
| 05:31:22 | aegray | thatd be funn |
| 05:31:45 | BHSPitMonkey | what was 'blech' them |
| 05:31:56 | BHSPitMonkey | s/them/then |
| 05:32:52 | aegray | onomatopoeia |
| 05:33:02 | BHSPitMonkey | i knew how to spell that too. |
| 05:33:07 | aegray | good |
| 05:33:24 | aegray | bet the job offers are coming in like crazy |
| 05:33:35 | BHSPitMonkey | oh they are |
| 05:33:45 | BHSPitMonkey | too bad i have to turn them down to continue playing with my ipod |
| 05:34:00 | aegray | yea....thats the excuse I make for myself too |
| 05:34:03 | aegray | when i fail an inteview |
| 05:34:18 | * | BHSPitMonkey has never failed an interview. |
| 05:34:18 | aegray | woooooo no job for liefe! |
| 05:36:06 | BHSPitMonkey | never apply at Target |
| 05:36:11 | BHSPitMonkey | just FYI |
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| 05:40:45 | aegray | i only go for computer jobs now |
| 05:40:51 | aegray | i bagged groceries for 2 years |
| 05:40:56 | aegray | don't need to do that again |
| 05:43:35 | BHSPitMonkey | don't you think the video player should keep the backlight on? |
| 05:44:41 | BHSPitMonkey | hmm, that's actually a tricky question...on the greyscale models, the video looks better with the backlight off; maybe it should be in settings? |
| 05:51:04 | aegray | fine |
| 05:51:11 | aegray | send me a patch |
| 05:51:19 | aegray | i'm completely rewriting |
| 05:51:25 | aegray | everything wil be in kernel for now |
| 05:51:30 | aegray | because i need somewhat real time stuff |
| 05:51:32 | aegray | with interrupts |
| 05:52:34 | BHSPitMonkey | mmk |
| 05:53:00 | aegray | hopefully new stuff on the way fd;sa? |
| 05:53:20 | BHSPitMonkey | you gonna make a pz2 module? |
| 05:53:28 | aegray | god no |
| 05:53:31 | BHSPitMonkey | heh... |
| 05:53:32 | aegray | well |
| 05:53:33 | aegray | maybe |
| 05:53:42 | BHSPitMonkey | what's the disdain? |
| 05:53:42 | aegray | its more direct to hardware based |
| 05:53:56 | aegray | i dunno - just making a modules means noting |
| 05:54:00 | aegray | its justa dding somefucntiosn |
| 05:54:06 | aegray | god that was brokesn |
| 05:54:06 | BHSPitMonkey | well obviously |
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| 05:54:34 | BHSPitMonkey | actually, it would probably just be filebrowser still, right? |
| 05:54:41 | aegray | hmmmmm |
| 05:54:45 | BHSPitMonkey | or maybe a Videos menu :D |
| 05:54:46 | aegray | it don't atter |
| 05:54:48 | aegray | :) |
| 05:54:54 | BHSPitMonkey | that would require video indexing |
| 05:54:59 | aegray | the way you find videso acn be changed easilly |
| 05:55:03 | aegray | i'm talking tha player itself |
| 05:55:06 | BHSPitMonkey | could mpd index videos? |
| 05:55:07 | aegray | owe |
| 05:55:10 | aegray | i dunno |
| 05:55:14 | BHSPitMonkey | aegray: slow down |
| 05:55:16 | aegray | haha |
| 05:55:23 | aegray | my eyes |
| 05:55:25 | aegray | dot work |
| 05:55:32 | BHSPitMonkey | mmk |
| 05:55:44 | aegray | drugs are bad |
| 05:55:45 | aegray | mmmk |
| 05:55:48 | aegray | hehe |
| 05:55:56 | aegray | what esle does he say that with |
| 05:59:10 | BHSPitMonkey | who |
| 05:59:32 | BHSPitMonkey | why aren't you in #ipodlinux? |
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| 06:00:13 | birdfish | Does Rockbox allow for multiple genres (per track) through id3v2? |
| 06:01:06 | eEye | will rockbox cook me dinner? ;) |
| 06:01:19 | * | birdfish wonders |
| 06:01:43 | birdfish | It's too bad that sort of stuff isn't included :( |
| 06:02:17 | eEye | yea.. i wouldnt mind a steak right about now |
| 06:02:24 | birdfish | :P |
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| 08:41:37 | BHSPitLappy | hola |
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| 09:01:28 | ST | hey guys what does the vbrfix.rock do? |
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| 09:03:54 | Midgey31 | its more my lips |
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| 09:04:03 | Midgey31 | sorry about that |
| 09:04:07 | Midgey31 | wrong window |
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| 09:08:27 | Jungti1234 | hello |
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| 09:15:35 | ST | ? |
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| 09:29:34 | Bger | ST it's for fixing VBR files ... |
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| 10:13:06 | Paprica | wow thw color bmp viewer work good!! |
| 10:14:50 | ST | paprica: link please |
| 10:15:02 | Paprica | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1411282&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 10:15:20 | ST | thx |
| 10:16:35 | ST | nice, do u think it will be on the optimized build soon, btw can we talk about that build here? because i got abused for doing so one time |
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| 10:17:46 | Paprica | mm dont know |
| 10:17:47 | Paprica | =\ |
| 10:18:30 | Paprica | i think that no probmlem to talk about the build |
| 10:18:50 | ST | ok |
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| 10:21:00 | Bger | ST? abused for talking about the optimized build ? |
| 10:22:28 | Bger | i really doubt it |
| 10:22:45 | perplexity | I mean, it's not really optimised is it.. ? It just has a collection of patches and 3rd party plugins added and collected in one place.. |
| 10:23:04 | Bger | ah, yes |
| 10:23:04 | perplexity | but then that's just me being a language pedant I guess |
| 10:24:11 | perplexity | iirc Bger someone came in with a problem with the "optimised build" and someone else mentioned it was unsupported by this particular channel.. was fair I thought.. |
| 10:24:40 | Bger | perplexity ok, but i won't call this "abusing" :) |
| 10:25:29 | perplexity | I'd have to check the logs for "abuse", but I agree that my particular example was not abuse :) |
| 10:25:58 | Bger | ;) |
| 10:29:27 | ST | hmm, well someone called the optimized build "rubbish", when i asked about something, instead saying it a different way..and they went on to say other things, then i left. |
| 10:29:39 | perplexity | Jan 19 16:15:12 <B4gder> ST: the "optimized" build is not our baby |
| 10:29:40 | perplexity | Jan 19 16:15:30 <preglow> the "optimized" build looks like a bag of shit |
| 10:29:54 | perplexity | have logs, will travel |
| 10:30:37 | ST | yeh? |
| 10:31:28 | perplexity | well, you just must have caught people on a bad day.. it happens.. but as I recall you wanted to edit the colour field in a wps.. |
| 10:31:52 | ST | i mean they could have said they didnt know.. instead of their opinions on it..ok yeh |
| 10:32:12 | perplexity | you left too early :) |
| 10:32:14 | perplexity | Jan 19 16:17:00 <ST> B4gder: ok calm down, thx for your help |
| 10:32:14 | perplexity | Jan 19 16:17:03 * ST has quit () |
| 10:32:14 | perplexity | Jan 19 16:17:23 * B4gder is as calm as a... herring |
| 10:32:14 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK perplexity |
| 10:32:14 | perplexity | Jan 19 16:17:31 <preglow> and by god, they're calm |
| 10:32:14 | perplexity | Jan 19 16:17:34 <preglow> cool too |
| 10:33:19 | ST | ok, dont worry about it anymore |
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| 10:36:27 | Lost-ash | geek has opinion, news at eleven. |
| 10:36:51 | Lost-ash | ST: the biggest problem is that the optimised build starts to smell a bit like a fork after a while. |
| 10:37:06 | Lost-ash | and the last major third party fork resulted in some bad blood, and the death of some good ideas |
| 10:37:39 | Lost-ash | ultimately, it might be easier to do the work, and get most of the patches the so callde 'optimised' build inserted into rockbox |
| 10:38:04 | ST | ok i see |
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| 10:39:13 | ashridah | besides, i'm not sure why it's called "optimised". it's not like they had the ability to do -mcpu=athlon or whatever :) |
| 10:40:40 | Bger | ashridah maybe -O3 :) |
| 10:41:19 | Bger | ashridah i think it's more like "more usable |
| 10:41:21 | Bger | " |
| 10:41:31 | ashridah | value added |
| 10:41:49 | Bger | for example the remotes |
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| 10:45:25 | ashridah | i had thought that those had already been added in |
| 10:45:36 | ashridah | or haven't we got a way of distinguishing them yet? |
| 10:47:52 | Bger | where's HZ defined ? |
| 10:48:07 | Bger | ashridah that's not the problem |
| 10:48:32 | Bger | they can be added with an option as an start |
| 10:48:55 | Bger | the problem is that h100 and h300 remotes are very different button-situation-wise |
| 10:50:09 | Bger | i started working on logical mapping (that is to map button -> action), but i don't have time ... |
| 10:57:44 | Jungti1234 | hm |
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| 11:07:41 | Jungti1234 | Iriver followers such as beggar |
| 11:07:44 | Bger | Jungti1234 ? |
| 11:08:00 | Jungti1234 | They attack me |
| 11:08:21 | Bger | what?? |
| 11:09:06 | Jungti1234 | Iriver's fans in Korea iriver community attack me. |
| 11:09:17 | Bger | why? |
| 11:09:45 | Jungti1234 | They hate that I inform LCD's problem to people. |
| 11:10:13 | Bger | u mean the different lcds ? (the new and the old ones) ? |
| 11:10:17 | Jungti1234 | yeah |
| 11:10:42 | Jungti1234 | I get angry to them. |
| 11:11:07 | Bger | i don't see any reason |
| 11:11:08 | Jungti1234 | They don't recognize LCD's problem like iriver. |
| 11:12:39 | Jungti1234 | reason? |
| 11:12:46 | Jungti1234 | What reason? |
| 11:12:55 | Bger | to attack you |
| 11:13:22 | Jungti1234 | I don't know reason too. |
| 11:13:32 | Jungti1234 | They attack me without reason. |
| 11:13:47 | Jungti1234 | So, I'm angry. |
| 11:15:26 | Bger | maybe they are iriver employees |
| 11:15:34 | Bger | :P |
| 11:16:16 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 11:16:29 | Jungti1234 | Among them, employee is. |
| 11:18:01 | Jungti1234 | But, there is a person who I attack in writing that I write. |
| 11:19:21 | Jungti1234 | In writing that I write only. |
| 11:20:06 | BHSPitLappy | Jungti1234: what's your native language? |
| 11:20:18 | Jungti1234 | hahaha um korean |
| 11:20:29 | BHSPitLappy | hmm |
| 11:20:32 | Jungti1234 | I don't well English. |
| 11:20:38 | Jungti1234 | sorry |
| 11:20:41 | BHSPitLappy | I think my friend speaks korean :P |
| 11:21:07 | BHSPitLappy | no wait |
| 11:21:10 | BHSPitLappy | he doesn't :P |
| 11:21:14 | Jungti1234 | hehe What country is he? |
| 11:21:36 | BHSPitLappy | i was wrong, he's vietnamese |
| 11:21:51 | Jungti1234 | vietnamese? ..... |
| 11:22:12 | Jungti1234 | Korean and Vietnamese are perfectly different. |
| 11:24:46 | Bger | hah i like every time when you say "i don't well english":) |
| 11:24:46 | BHSPitLappy | I know |
| 11:25:17 | BHSPitLappy | Jungti1234: I could not remember what country he was from |
| 11:25:26 | BHSPitLappy | I know they are different |
| 11:25:35 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 11:25:57 | Jungti1234 | huuuuu................ |
| 11:26:10 | Jungti1234 | I want to speak well English. |
| 11:27:17 | Jungti1234 | ak!!!!!!!!!! Korean education way mistook!! |
| 11:27:46 | Bger | Jungti1234 what i like is that this sentence ("i don't well english) is missing the main verb |
| 11:28:02 | Jungti1234 | yeah |
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| 11:28:15 | Jungti1234 | speak? |
| 11:28:24 | Bger | for example :) |
| 11:29:42 | Jungti1234 | korea isn't liveable..... |
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| 11:32:24 | BHSPitLappy | :/ |
| 11:32:28 | Jungti1234 | hi muesli__ |
| 11:33:03 | muesli__ | re Jungti1234 ;) |
| 11:33:24 | muesli__ | have u been 8h online while i was sleeping? |
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| 11:33:52 | Jungti1234 | um? |
| 11:34:20 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 11:34:31 | Jungti1234 | I don't know '8h' |
| 11:35:01 | t0mas | 8 hours |
| 11:35:05 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 11:35:07 | BHSPitLappy | Jungti1234: typing error :) |
| 11:35:08 | BHSPitLappy | ah lol |
| 11:35:10 | BHSPitLappy | never mind |
| 11:35:13 | muesli__ | ;) |
| 11:35:15 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 11:35:38 | BHSPitLappy | >:( |
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| 11:36:30 | muesli__ | Jungti1234 motivated for another ftp test? ;) |
| 11:36:38 | Jungti1234 | yeah |
| 11:36:46 | muesli__ | fine ;) |
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| 13:49:58 | Philip_0729 | how do i apply a .patch file to a build??? |
| 13:51:26 | perplexity | you don't.. you need to apply it to the source tree and then build it |
| 13:51:29 | t0mas | linux or windows? |
| 13:51:31 | ashridah | patches can only be applied to the source, you use the 'patch' utility |
| 13:51:53 | ashridah | you'd need the devkit for windows, or a cross compiler on linux or something to that effect |
| 13:51:56 | Philip_0729 | in windows.. |
| 13:52:08 | t0mas | then you need the devkit |
| 13:52:10 | Philip_0729 | i have the devkit and can build the |
| 13:52:12 | t0mas | ok |
| 13:52:22 | t0mas | then use the patch command to apply the patch |
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| 13:52:36 | t0mas | http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/patch.1.html |
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| 13:58:40 | Philip_0729 | damn thats so complicated :( |
| 13:59:37 | ashridah | aah, usually it's just a matter of going into the rockbox source toplevel directory, and running 'patch -p1 < /path/to/file.patch' |
| 13:59:47 | ashridah | if that complains that it can't find the file to patch, try -p0 instead |
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| 14:00:05 | Philip_0729 | thanks i'll try that |
| 14:00:10 | ashridah | the -p option just tells patch where you are relative to where the patch is expecting to be |
| 14:00:34 | ashridah | so -p1 is one level deep, -p0 is the same directory |
| 14:00:34 | ashridah | it just depends on how the patch was created |
| 14:00:59 | Philip_0729 | ok |
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| 14:05:02 | Philip_0729 | the patch is http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1411282&group_id=44306&atid=439120 how do i know what i'm meant to patch? |
| 14:05:56 | ashridah | is it asking you which file to patch? |
| 14:06:04 | Philip_0729 | no |
| 14:06:09 | t0mas | in /rockbox/apps |
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| 14:06:34 | t0mas | hm |
| 14:06:34 | t0mas | wait |
| 14:06:41 | t0mas | 1 file outsize apps |
| 14:07:10 | t0mas | have you tried doing it in the rockbox dir? |
| 14:07:18 | t0mas | rockbox-devel or rockbox |
| 14:07:20 | t0mas | with -p0 ? |
| 14:07:44 | t0mas | because this: |
| 14:07:44 | t0mas | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1411282&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 14:07:46 | t0mas | woops |
| 14:07:50 | t0mas | −−- apps/screen_access.c24 Nov 2005 00:10:10 -00001.16 |
| 14:07:50 | t0mas | +++ apps/screen_access.c21 Jan 2006 02:09:14 -0000 |
| 14:07:51 | t0mas | that |
| 14:07:57 | t0mas | looks like it's done from the rockbox main source dir |
| 14:08:25 | Philip_0729 | C:\Rockbox? |
| 14:08:35 | t0mas | if that's where your source is... |
| 14:08:36 | t0mas | yes |
| 14:08:51 | Philip_0729 | k |
| 14:14:14 | Philip_0729 | I have unzipped build from CVS into C:\Rockbox\home\guest\ as you woud for a normal build... |
| 14:14:27 | Philip_0729 | *source not build sorry |
| 14:15:46 | Philip_0729 | i need to know where to place the colorbmp.patch file and what syntax? to execute |
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| 14:17:39 | webguest16 | put the pachfile to \home\guest\rockbox |
| 14:18:47 | webguest16 | and then execute in \home\guest\rockbox\ the comand "patch −−binary -p0 < colorbmp.patch" |
| 14:19:03 | Philip_0729 | I don't have that directory... :( |
| 14:19:26 | Philip_0729 | there is a .rockbox directory uder build?? |
| 14:19:33 | Philip_0729 | *under |
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| 14:19:59 | dionoea | hello |
| 14:20:25 | dionoea | i was wondering if anyone here knew of a projet proting linux to Gmini 402 ? |
| 14:20:47 | dionoea | (or any other archos handheld video players) |
| 14:20:56 | dionoea | -proting +porting |
| 14:21:11 | webguest16 | what folder do you have in \home\guest\ ? |
| 14:21:55 | Philip_0729 | apps, bootloader, build, docs, firmware, flash, fonts, gdb, tools, uisimulator |
| 14:22:46 | webguest16 | ok, then put the patch to \home\guest |
| 14:22:56 | Philip_0729 | done |
| 14:23:29 | webguest16 | and execute the comand in this folder |
| 14:24:23 | Philip_0729 | thankyou sooo much... now to try it out |
| 14:25:03 | webguest16 | btw, the colorbmp patch is great |
| 14:25:27 | Philip_0729 | yey time to start making some cool WPS's |
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| 14:26:49 | needleboy | hey everyone |
| 14:26:54 | Philip_0729 | hello |
| 14:27:10 | needleboy | anyone knows anything regarding Linus |
| 14:27:24 | needleboy | Linus' color BMP loader? |
| 14:27:35 | Philip_0729 | no but i think you need to add the colour bmp patch to your optimized build |
| 14:27:44 | Philip_0729 | :) |
| 14:27:55 | needleboy | that depends |
| 14:28:07 | needleboy | he said the RWPS crashes if it tries to load a color BMP |
| 14:28:31 | Philip_0729 | i'll have a test and see what this means... |
| 14:28:41 | needleboy | \i want to know if it'll happen whenever, or only when the RWPS is set to load the color BMP |
| 14:28:53 | Philip_0729 | yeh i'll test that |
| 14:29:03 | needleboy | i don't have an LCD remote, so I can't check it... |
| 14:29:07 | needleboy | let me know? |
| 14:29:09 | linuxstb | The RWPS probably expects mono bitmaps - so if the code doesn't handle that.... |
| 14:29:10 | Philip_0729 | ok |
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| 14:29:23 | Philip_0729 | building at present |
| 14:29:48 | needleboy | but the RWPS has it's own settings file |
| 14:30:07 | Philip_0729 | thats what i thourght it wouldn't be a problem |
| 14:30:15 | needleboy | if i load a color WPS does it change the RWPS as well? |
| 14:30:48 | needleboy | anyway, if this works, it renders the ColorWPS patch useless... |
| 14:30:59 | Philip_0729 | yep |
| 14:31:05 | needleboy | which is a bummer cause it took me a whole day to fix, and it was only 3 days ago |
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| 14:31:16 | needleboy | but it's a better option so... whatever |
| 14:31:50 | Philip_0729 | i'm going to assume i have to heavily modify a wps to test this it may take a while |
| 14:31:58 | needleboy | no... |
| 14:32:13 | needleboy | just load one color BMP and see if it crashes the remote |
| 14:32:23 | Philip_0729 | k |
| 14:32:36 | needleboy | just take a WPS with the ROCKbox logo, and replace the logo itself with a color one |
| 14:34:14 | linuxstb | Bagder: A week or two ago, you mentioned you might look at adding bmp2rb to the build system. Are you still intending to do that? |
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| 14:41:53 | Philip_0729 | colour bmps on wps work like a charm |
| 14:42:13 | needleboy | what about the remote? |
| 14:42:17 | Philip_0729 | plug in remote and no crash |
| 14:42:32 | needleboy | does the remote still load the old RWPS? |
| 14:42:38 | Philip_0729 | yes |
| 14:42:48 | needleboy | so the problem is only if the RWPS file itself loads color BMPs? |
| 14:42:52 | Philip_0729 | crash when try to load colour bmps onto remote |
| 14:42:55 | needleboy | not a problem then... |
| 14:42:59 | needleboy | cool, it's in |
| 14:43:00 | Philip_0729 | no not realy |
| 14:43:09 | needleboy | a new version in 30 minutes |
| 14:43:16 | Philip_0729 | i'll start skinning |
| 14:48:18 | Philip_0729 | hmm |
| 14:48:58 | Philip_0729 | is there a transparency colour?? cos i load a white background it covers all the text.... |
| 14:50:35 | Philip_0729 | i'll try pink, black... any other suggestions?? |
| 14:50:37 | needleboy | try the pink default |
| 14:50:43 | needleboy | that's usually it |
| 14:50:51 | needleboy | but why a background? |
| 14:52:13 | Philip_0729 | i was going to essentially copy over a skin i made for iriver firmware and they use background images |
| 14:53:02 | Philip_0729 | hmm. nope and nope |
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| 14:55:29 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 14:55:38 | JdGordon | is there any calendar plugins for rb yet? |
| 14:55:47 | JdGordon | actually, weekly timetable like plugins |
| 14:56:12 | needleboy | http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.de/rockcalendar.htm |
| 14:56:30 | needleboy | Philip, what's the RGB value for the transparent pink? |
| 14:57:17 | Philip_0729 | its usually 255 0 255 but i tried that and it was ........... |
| 14:57:22 | Philip_0729 | PINK |
| 14:57:24 | Philip_0729 | :( |
| 14:58:31 | needleboy | maybe there's no transperancy in 24bit BMPs? |
| 14:58:34 | needleboy | anyone knows? |
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| 15:04:09 | needleboy | well, i think there's no transperancy yet |
| 15:04:18 | needleboy | i tried everything |
| 15:04:58 | JdGordon | all 16 billion combos? |
| 15:05:04 | JdGordon | :D |
| 15:05:08 | needleboy | funny |
| 15:05:21 | needleboy | is there support for it in BMPs at all??? |
| 15:05:28 | needleboy | doesn't seem like it |
| 15:05:44 | JdGordon | isnt there something in the metainfo at the start of a bmp about which colour is transparent? |
| 15:05:49 | needleboy | if i save a transaprent image to BMP, then reload it in Photoshop, it just shows BG as white |
| 15:06:50 | linuxstb | No, BMP files don't support tranparency. You would have to choose a random colour and hard-code that colour to mean "transparent". |
| 15:06:55 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 15:06:55 | * | preglow reappears |
| 15:07:11 | linuxstb | good afternoon. |
| 15:08:01 | preglow | i suppose it is |
| 15:08:07 | preglow | at least there's no storm anymore |
| 15:08:55 | linuxstb | I managed to "dd" an ipod firmware partition to my h140's fat32 partition last night... |
| 15:10:23 | preglow | hahahahah |
| 15:10:26 | linuxstb | I was surprised that the iriver firmware was happy to enter USB mode, even though the filesystem was corrupt. |
| 15:10:39 | preglow | oh really? |
| 15:10:43 | preglow | now that _is_ a surprise |
| 15:10:44 | needleboy | linuxstb: hardcode in the patch itself? |
| 15:10:53 | preglow | i would have lost quite a bit of money in that bet |
| 15:11:16 | linuxstb | needleboy: Yes. Or more accurately, in the LCD driver(s). |
| 15:11:27 | JdGordon | has any1 tried the h300 optimeized build? |
| 15:11:33 | linuxstb | preglow: Maybe it's because the partition table was still intact. |
| 15:12:20 | needleboy | ok, i'll ask linus about this |
| 15:13:31 | needleboy | JdGordon: i'm compiling that version |
| 15:13:33 | needleboy | why? |
| 15:13:57 | JdGordon | it keeps crashing when it tries to load one of the new wps's |
| 15:13:57 | preglow | linuxstb: well, the impression i have is that iriverfw isn't very forgiving if it comes to a broken partition |
| 15:14:27 | linuxstb | So I was probably lucky because my partition was _very_ broken. If it was half-working, I guess it would have choked. |
| 15:14:40 | preglow | probably |
| 15:14:44 | linuxstb | But I of course still had the rockbox usb bootloader mode as well. |
| 15:14:56 | preglow | which is feature of the year |
| 15:15:47 | linuxstb | Yep. Apple kindly already provided that for us. |
| 15:16:07 | JdGordon | needleboy: i have the nonunicode rockbox fw... could that be why? |
| 15:16:13 | preglow | probably wouldn't even have a port if that wasn't so |
| 15:17:07 | needleboy | JdGordon: Could that be why WHAT? |
| 15:17:11 | needleboy | oh, i see |
| 15:17:14 | needleboy | yes it is |
| 15:17:19 | JdGordon | hmm... ok |
| 15:17:23 | needleboy | there's new color codes in the WPS |
| 15:17:34 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Is there a reason you've stuck with a non-unicode rockbox? |
| 15:17:59 | preglow | nonunicode rockbox fw? |
| 15:18:07 | JdGordon | not really... i speak english so dont need it |
| 15:18:08 | preglow | you've stuck with a build that's older than a month? |
| 15:18:18 | JdGordon | force of habit or something |
| 15:18:33 | linuxstb | I only speak English, but there's no advantage to not upgrading. It doesn't hurt anything. |
| 15:18:46 | preglow | haha |
| 15:18:51 | preglow | i just upgrade because of all the other features |
| 15:19:03 | preglow | i use english on all daps/computers/whatever anyway |
| 15:19:40 | linuxstb | Unicode has been in Rockbox CVS since 6 December 2005 - 6 weeks is a long time in Rockbox development... |
| 15:20:15 | JdGordon | happens to be the same length of tiume uve been out of the country |
| 15:20:21 | needleboy | could anyone else but Linus code in the transperency issue? |
| 15:21:34 | * | JdGordon cant find a damn reseter thingy |
| 15:21:45 | preglow | what do you need transparency for? |
| 15:22:50 | needleboy | Linus made a patch that allows 24Bit BMPS to be used in the WPS |
| 15:23:03 | preglow | needleboy: coding transparency is easy, just find a crazy ass shade of pink, call that transparant, and have the drawing routine NOT draw all pixels that are crazy ass pink |
| 15:23:19 | needleboy | But the BMPs loaded in the WPS now cover the text |
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| 15:23:35 | needleboy | preglow: sure thing, but i'm not a programmer, so no idea how to do this |
| 15:23:49 | Jungti1234 | Big match!! |
| 15:23:51 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 15:23:55 | preglow | too bad i'm not the slightest bit interested, then |
| 15:24:09 | Jungti1234 | Korea vs Greece |
| 15:24:26 | needleboy | preglow: you're not, but every color LCD user is... |
| 15:24:26 | preglow | what sport? |
| 15:24:31 | needleboy | whatever... |
| 15:24:33 | Jungti1234 | soccer |
| 15:24:33 | preglow | needleboy: oh, i use a colour lcd |
| 15:24:43 | preglow | don't much care for soccer anymore |
| 15:24:49 | Jungti1234 | Korea 1 : 1 Greece |
| 15:24:55 | needleboy | and you don't see this as a huge step up?!?!? |
| 15:25:17 | preglow | well, yeah, i'm not just interested enough in coding it myself |
| 15:25:21 | preglow | i don't care very much about looks |
| 15:25:31 | JdGordon | needleboy: does the wps flash with the bmps like they did 5 weeks ago when i last tryed a wps with bmps? |
| 15:25:37 | needleboy | i'm asking for help... not interest... |
| 15:25:43 | needleboy | nevermind |
| 15:25:57 | needleboy | JdGordon: What?!? |
| 15:26:14 | preglow | needleboy: perfect situation to learn coding! |
| 15:26:14 | preglow | :) |
| 15:26:22 | needleboy | i've started actually |
| 15:26:24 | preglow | think of the glamour and the babes |
| 15:26:33 | preglow | then hooray |
| 15:26:42 | JdGordon | the playing screen blinks when it refreshes the screen if it had any bmps on it... does it still do that? |
| 15:26:52 | needleboy | no |
| 15:26:58 | needleboy | not that i'm aware of |
| 15:27:01 | JdGordon | oh good :D |
| 15:27:17 | needleboy | JdGordon: take a look at this: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35654 |
| 15:27:20 | needleboy | you have all the info there |
| 15:27:27 | needleboy | just clean reinstall |
| 15:28:16 | JdGordon | crap... iriv is in korean for some reason.. can some1 let me know which menu option is the language? |
| 15:29:08 | Philip_0729 | lol hold navi press navi go down one press navi iirc |
| 15:29:57 | JdGordon | thanxz |
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| 15:33:54 | JdGordon | wtf?? imcompatible model on bubbles and brickmania? |
| 15:35:46 | perplexity | that would be old 3rd party plugins with the new plugin loader I guess |
| 15:35:57 | perplexity | they need to be modified slightly and recompiled |
| 15:39:49 | Philip_0729 | what is the RGB value of rockbox blue?? |
| 15:40:45 | linuxstb | #define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(182, 198, 229) /* rockbox blue */ |
| 15:40:56 | Philip_0729 | ty |
| 15:40:57 | lostlogic | Slasheri: ping? |
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| 15:43:53 | Slasheri | lostlogic: pong |
| 15:45:41 | lostlogic | hey, I'm trying to figure out a way to do make a seamless seek functionality on software codecs, but with clearing the pcmbuf on seek complete, I can't see a way to do it. Thoughts? |
| 15:48:03 | Slasheri | ah, that is necessary to prevent old audio fragemnts playing when the seek is complete (audio is paused while seeking) |
| 15:49:11 | lostlogic | Are we explicitly against playing those audio fragments as we pass them? |
| 15:50:12 | Slasheri | Hmm, it would sound like weird when you release the seek button and you would hear a fragment from the previous position and right after that the playback continues at the right position |
| 15:50:17 | Slasheri | *quite |
| 15:50:56 | lostlogic | Slasheri: I mean more like seek-peeking like some DAPs or CD players do so you hear glimpses of audio as you pass them |
| 15:52:27 | Slasheri | ah, then it would be an entirely different thing to do |
| 15:53:01 | Slasheri | and then we shouldn't of course clear the pcm buffer |
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| 15:53:24 | jackinabox^ | hi all |
| 15:54:02 | jackinabox^ | !ping pls |
| 15:54:06 | lostlogic | basically it seems like we're putting in a fair amount of effor to ensure dead silence during seeking by pausing playback and clearing the buffer on both sides of it, but with some tweaking we might get a useful feature by just not doing that. |
| 15:54:13 | lostlogic | effort |
| 15:55:14 | Slasheri | hmm, true. that would be a nice thing to try at least |
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| 15:55:56 | lostlogic | will play with it. otherwise I'll see if there's some other way to keep seeking clean and get the seamless that ab-repeat needs. |
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| 16:02:02 | preglow | lostlogic: what, you're looking at the playback code and understanding it? |
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| 16:02:20 | lostlogic | preglow: somewhat :-P |
| 16:02:22 | preglow | we have a messiah! |
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| 16:13:59 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I have A fundamental question about the rockbox playback code - how many different threads are involved in audio playback, and what they each do? |
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| 16:16:53 | Slasheri | linuxstb: there are three different threads at the moment. 1) the playback core that controls buffering, 2) codec thread where audio codecs run, and 3) a separate codec thread for the voice codec |
| 16:18:39 | lostlogic | Slasheri: pcmbuf and codecbuf run on the same thread? |
| 16:19:10 | lostlogic | I guess that makes sense since there has to be load balancing between the two buffers kinda. |
| 16:19:23 | linuxstb | So does the main thread (running the UI) only communicate with your 1) ? |
| 16:19:25 | preglow | Slasheri: you have to memcpy the entire codec address space, plus iram, yes? |
| 16:19:28 | preglow | Slasheri: when using voice ui |
| 16:20:05 | Slasheri | lostlogic: hmm, no. codec thread keeps the pcm buffer full and audio core thread makes sure that codec buffer keeps filled |
| 16:20:21 | Slasheri | preglow: yes, true |
| 16:20:47 | preglow | good reason for me to make an elf loader :> |
| 16:20:50 | lostlogic | Slasheri: ok, so the callbacks run on the codec thread technically. |
| 16:21:01 | preglow | yes |
| 16:21:06 | Slasheri | lostlogic: yep, main thread only communicates with the audio core thread |
| 16:21:16 | preglow | dsp also runs in codec thread |
| 16:21:18 | Slasheri | lostlogic: yes |
| 16:24:48 | lostlogic | pcmbuf_play_stop clears the buffer, but does not pause playback (if I'm reading this right)? |
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| 16:27:45 | lostlogic | well I've not gotten my desired effect yet, but it's kinda amusing to have the audio keep playing where it was during seeking. |
| 16:27:53 | Slasheri | lostlogic: correct.. it doesn't pause the playback but it stops it :D so pcm dma needs to be started again |
| 16:28:18 | Slasheri | hehe |
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| 16:37:35 | lostlogic | gettin' there. |
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| 16:43:27 | lostlogic | problems arise with synching the GUI with the seeking. that's going to take much more work :( |
| 16:44:18 | lostlogic | Slasheri: how would you reproduce the bug that you put the pcmbuf_play_stop in seek_complete_callback to fix so I can make sure I don't resurrect that bug? |
| 16:44:41 | preglow | btw |
| 16:44:51 | preglow | is there some way to sync wps to where the pcm buffer is currently at? |
| 16:44:57 | preglow | i'm tired of it being several seconds wrong |
| 16:45:30 | lostlogic | it attempts to by calculating the pcmbuffer latency to give the WPS the place to display |
| 16:45:38 | Slasheri | lostlogic: if you are going to remove it, you should also remove the pcmbuf_play_stop call from AUDIO_FF_REWIND queue event in the audio core thread |
| 16:45:51 | Slasheri | then it will have effect |
| 16:47:00 | lostlogic | Slasheri: actually in trying to get the desired seek peeking effect I removed the front one but not the end, and took out the pauses in gwps-common, and moved the audio_ff_rewind call into the calculation loop, but it's going to take more than I thought to keep the GUI from getting confused, and the codec from exploding from the many many ff_rewind calls. |
| 16:47:40 | lostlogic | plus it becomes much harder to keep from overrunning the end of the song and stuff, so I'm nixing that particular project for now. |
| 16:47:51 | lostlogic | and going back to adding a separate seamless seek audio function. |
| 16:48:33 | Slasheri | hehe, true. but that sounds good :) now going to eat something |
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| 16:52:54 | lostlogic | preglow: your WPS is several seconds wrong from song position? |
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| 17:01:56 | preglow | lostlogic: i assume so, since it track position indicator ends several seconds before the track is at the end |
| 17:02:05 | preglow | s/it/the/ |
| 17:02:32 | lostlogic | hmm, it probably stops moving too soon, because there are no more decode events, and decode events trigger the actual updates. |
| 17:04:19 | preglow | right |
| 17:04:24 | preglow | still, doesn't look too pretty |
| 17:04:36 | preglow | does it stop even longer before when crossfading is enabled, then? |
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| 17:05:05 | lostlogic | preglow: not sure −− haven't used crossfade yet. I'm gonna see if I can make it update whenever the latency changes as well |
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| 17:13:25 | lostlogic | seems like there are several variables that belong in IRAM in pcm related code... the interrupt handler is in IRAM, so should the variables and functions that it calls in the usual case. |
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| 17:21:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, I can't seem to do Makes any more. |
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| 17:23:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | With a fresh CVS update, in a clean build directory, I get "Missing Separator". |
| 17:24:56 | lostlogic | hmm, might be able to register a watermark callback that would update as the DMA empties teh remaining buffer. |
| 17:26:11 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Do "make V=1" to see exactly where the error is. |
| 17:26:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay |
| 17:29:38 | lostlogic | preliminary results say that IRAMing the DMA callback related code gives a statistically significant performance improvement. |
| 17:29:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Makefile:1: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 17:29:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | make[1]: *** [rocks] Error 2 |
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| 17:29:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hrm |
| 17:29:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, gotcha |
| 17:30:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Thanks, just after pasting it I realized where my problem is. Forgot I had that extra mpeg2 stuff still there. |
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| 17:32:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or, not. |
| 17:33:14 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wishes he were more knowledgeable about GCC / Make / etc. |
| 17:34:34 | G-G-G-Gesus | sorry to bother you guys, but i was wondering if there's some screenshots of the rockbox/the ui |
| 17:34:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | The UI is pretty much just text based. |
| 17:35:36 | G-G-G-Gesus | oh ok |
| 17:35:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Linuxstb: CC xlcd.c AR+RANLIB /home/DarkkOne/rockbox-devel/h120/libplugin.a Makefile:1: *** missing separator. Stop. |
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| 17:38:25 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I'm guessing it's your apps/plugins/Makefile that's somehow bad. |
| 17:39:01 | linuxstb | Try doing "cvs update" in your apps/ directory, and see if it tells you if there were any conflicts. |
| 17:39:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I would assume a C is a conflict? I swear that in the past it was actually somewhat verbose about what conflicted.. |
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| 17:43:47 | preglow | c is a conflict |
| 17:43:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 17:43:59 | preglow | it's never been very verbose |
| 17:44:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I swear I'd had one in the past that told me a little more about it, but maybe I'm confusing CVS and patch. |
| 17:44:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah well, all resolved now |
| 17:44:51 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: the first time you cvs up with a conflict it talks about the merge failing, but after that, it's not making new conflicts so it just shows the file as 'C' status. |
| 17:45:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah. Gotcha |
| 17:46:01 | lostlogic | how does 3% boost improvement for ~250 bytes of IRAM in pcm_playback.c and pcmbuf.c sound? |
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| 18:08:57 | linuxstb | lostlogic: I don't think anyone could complain about that :) |
| 18:09:52 | lostlogic | :) still on the hunt in this area of code for similar "low hanging fruit" |
| 18:13:51 | Slasheri | lostlogic: Hmm, have you checked how much there are currently iram left in the main code? |
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| 18:15:14 | lostlogic | Slasheri: iend in rockbox.map is at 8188 here, which says there's still 16k left right? |
| 18:16:02 | Slasheri | hmm, interesting.. just a moment |
| 18:16:02 | lostlogic | or have to count stack too so that's only 7k? |
| 18:16:11 | Slasheri | yes, stacks also |
| 18:16:14 | lostlogic | 7k left. |
| 18:16:25 | Slasheri | ok, so still plenty of iram left.. |
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| 18:17:36 | Slasheri | that's good then |
| 18:18:20 | lostlogic | Slasheri: in order to keep the playback updating as tracks end, I'd like to add another watermark that won't always be set (the current one is always set, just set in different places), this watermark will be used to bridge the gap between when codec decoding of a song ends, and when the playing of the next song begins |
| 18:18:37 | b0br | anybody knows, how difficult it would be to write instrument tuner for RB, something like this: http://www.fmjsoft.com/chromatia.html ? |
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| 18:19:05 | Slasheri | hmm, nope.. i just checked by creating a large static char array and it seems to be there is only little over 2k of iram left |
| 18:19:49 | lostlogic | weird... why does .stackend show a188 here? |
| 18:19:58 | Slasheri | lostlogic: hmm, interesting. please do so if you can make it work :) |
| 18:20:09 | lostlogic | Slasheri: cool, I'm workin' on it. |
| 18:21:17 | lostlogic | static char filler[7800] IDATA_ATTR; |
| 18:21:28 | lostlogic | just fit into IRAM here no complaints, are our compilers that different? |
| 18:21:59 | Slasheri | weird.. i just tryid static char filler[3000] IBSS_ATTR; and that wouldn't fit |
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| 18:22:51 | Slasheri | (that in playback.c) |
| 18:22:56 | lostlogic | I wonder which of these situations is more similar to the 'official' build. |
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| 18:25:48 | linuxstb | lostlogic: Do you have an ARM compiler installed? It's very easy to break ipod builds by changing iram usage. |
| 18:26:01 | Slasheri | interesting.. i have .stackend at 0xb49c.. so little less than 3k of iram left.. |
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| 18:27:48 | lostlogic | linuxstb: yeah, lemme check. |
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| 18:30:38 | lostlogic | linuxstb: I should probably get a 4.0 arm compiler setup |
| 18:30:58 | lostlogic | stackend on ipod build here is add0 |
| 18:31:28 | lostlogic | _even with_ my filler array in. |
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| 18:32:02 | lostlogic | 8f58 otherwise, so it looks pretty clear with gcc-3 |
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| 18:43:59 | mirak | lostlogic: what I don't get is that the stack is supposed to be 8k |
| 18:44:10 | mirak | but I have seen bigger arrays |
| 18:44:24 | mirak | in a struct declared localy to a method |
| 18:44:27 | mirak | and it doesn't crash |
| 18:44:36 | mirak | I don't know how this work |
| 18:45:16 | lostlogic | mirak: if they aren't in IRAM it doesn't matter |
| 18:45:23 | lostlogic | mirak: they are statically allocated from system ram |
| 18:46:21 | mirak | what do you mean staticaly ? |
| 18:46:52 | lostlogic | I mean that whenever that plugin or piece of code is loaded, that array's memory is allocated |
| 18:47:32 | mirak | in wich memory arrea is it allocated ? |
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| 18:48:02 | lostlogic | for plugisn in the plugin buffer in SDRAM, for the system just out of the general SDRAM pool, afaik |
| 18:48:12 | linuxstb_ | mirak: Do you have an example in the current Rockbox CVS that does that? |
| 18:49:27 | mirak | linuxstb_: well in the mpeg2 decoding stuff I did there is a struct wich contains an array of size 16k |
| 18:49:58 | mirak | and hem |
| 18:50:00 | mirak | wait |
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| 18:52:13 | mirak | linuxstb: ok my bad it's not |
| 18:52:27 | mirak | it uses the fake malloc |
| 18:52:46 | mirak | though this part needs to be put in iram |
| 18:52:59 | mirak | I don't know how, but xvid was better designed for that |
| 18:53:19 | mirak | with xvid a little buffer was allocated on the stac and the idct was processed on it |
| 18:53:39 | mirak | actually with mpeg2 it's done in the normal ram |
| 18:54:31 | mirak | that's certainly why the result are disapointing for mpeg2 |
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| 19:21:14 | lostlogic | Slasheri: Ok, so I've got the better UI update whatzit basically working but I don't see where in the code to deregister my callback to make sure that it is always deregistered when the next track starts playing |
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| 19:24:38 | lostlogic | nvm |
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| 20:39:33 | preglow | b0br: not too hard, but it will require quite a bit of dsp knowledge |
| 20:39:43 | preglow | and people with that aren't too common around here |
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| 21:02:42 | linuxstb_ | I've been working on adding bmp2rb a little more, and would like to commit something to CVS to keep the momentum going. I've limited the bmp2rb usage to creating native bitmaps for the main lcd - so this means that it doesn't support mono bitmaps for the main LCD (i.e. the icons), or bitmaps for the LCD remote. |
| 21:04:39 | linuxstb_ | So there is an apps/bitmaps directory which contains native-format bitmaps (as .bmp files), and also an apps/plugins/bitmaps/ directory for native bitmaps used by plugins. |
| 21:06:04 | lostlogic | gah, the problem is that the audio threads completely forget about the outgoing track's state once the codec is done decoding it. So either I have to hold onto that state for longer, or I have to have the WPS do the updates for the tail-end of the song. |
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| 21:15:10 | linuxstb_ | Patch is here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.diff |
| 21:15:23 | linuxstb_ | Plus the new bmp files and Makefiles: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.tgz |
| 21:16:33 | Paprica | ? |
| 21:16:40 | Paprica | plugin bitmap loader? |
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| 21:18:28 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb_: sup |
| 21:18:35 | linuxstb_ | No. It's a patch to the Rockbox build system that uses bmp2rb at compile-time to automatically convert .bmp files to .c files - in the appropriate format for that target. |
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| 21:19:25 | FingerSoup | erp!!! new plugin code broke my connect 4 plugin - I get an error with TEST_PLUGIN_API |
| 21:19:34 | FingerSoup | when compiling for sim... |
| 21:19:41 | FingerSoup | any ideas on fix? |
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| 21:22:51 | Paprica | linuxstb_ |
| 21:22:51 | Paprica | MAKE in bitmaps |
| 21:22:51 | Paprica | BMP2RB rockboxlogo.220x68x16.bmp |
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| 21:22:51 | Paprica | ./rockboxlogo.220x68x16.bmp: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") |
| 21:22:51 | Paprica | make[2]: *** [/home/guest/rockbox-bleeding/simu/apps/bitmaps/rockboxlogo.220x68x |
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| 21:22:52 | Paprica | 16.c] Error 2 |
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| 21:22:55 | Paprica | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
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| 21:23:29 | * | amiconn appears |
| 21:23:55 | amiconn | FingerSoup: Remove TEST_PLUGIN_API - it doesn't exist anymore |
| 21:24:46 | preglow | with all these new games coming, we might want to move all game plugins to a separate menu :> |
| 21:25:09 | * | amiconn wonders about Slasheri's codec lader fix |
| 21:25:41 | amiconn | The old code should behave *exactly* the same |
| 21:25:42 | Slasheri | amiconn: the problem was that size was reduced to 0.. so the header check failed |
| 21:25:45 | Slasheri | no |
| 21:26:09 | FingerSoup | ok, thanks |
| 21:26:12 | Slasheri | that header check (including the struct size check) was new |
| 21:26:15 | amiconn | AH |
| 21:26:18 | Slasheri | :) |
| 21:26:20 | * | amiconn silly |
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| 21:28:33 | amiconn | Slasheri: There was s slight chance that it worked before - if the codec did wrap in the buffer |
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| 21:29:17 | amiconn | Somehow I overlooked that size was manipulated... |
| 21:29:24 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, it worked before fine |
| 21:29:36 | amiconn | No, I mean before your fix |
| 21:29:44 | Slasheri | ah, hmm |
| 21:30:19 | Slasheri | yes, i very slight chance :) |
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| 21:30:22 | Slasheri | *a |
| 21:31:55 | lostlogic | I think I finally have updates->end of track working. |
| 21:32:10 | Slasheri | sounds nice :) |
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| 21:32:23 | lostlogic | I'll want you to review this before I commit if you are willing... |
| 21:32:24 | Slasheri | do you have a patch? |
| 21:32:30 | Slasheri | sounds good |
| 21:32:31 | lostlogic | hehe, yeah, willbe posting soon. |
| 21:32:34 | Slasheri | :) |
| 21:32:35 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: Did you re-run ../tools/configure? |
| 21:32:46 | Paprica | ah no |
| 21:32:48 | Paprica | =] |
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| 21:33:20 | lostlogic | Slasheri: btw, I pulled out that pcmbuf_play_stop in the seek_complete_callback and it doesn't seem to let any 'old' audio sneak through. |
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| 21:34:12 | Slasheri | lostlogic: ok, probably that isn't issue as long as the buffer will be clear at some other place |
| 21:34:13 | BHSPitLappy | hey linuxstb__ , linuxstb_ , and linuxstb |
| 21:34:22 | Slasheri | *ed |
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| 21:34:53 | lostlogic | Slasheri: yeah, wps pauses, and clears at the beginning of a seek, and during pause, no data is allowed into the buffer, so I'm fairlu sure that is OK (plus it lets me make AB repeat seamless work :)) |
| 21:35:51 | preglow | Slasheri: but yeah, wasn't some of your fixes supposed to make playback stop if you skip to a non-buffered track? |
| 21:38:29 | Slasheri | preglow: yes, at least while skipping. But still, there can be about half a second delay |
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| 21:39:42 | preglow | it doesn't stop at all here |
| 21:39:45 | preglow | with yesterdays build |
| 21:39:50 | preglow | behaves just like before |
| 21:40:02 | preglow | i skip to another track, and it continues playing until the new ones has been loaded |
| 21:41:08 | lostlogic | http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox/end-of-track-updates.patch @ Slasheri , preglow |
| 21:42:20 | preglow | what's it for? |
| 21:42:23 | Slasheri | lostlogic: thanks, i will look that soon (maybe tomorrow) |
| 21:42:38 | lostlogic | preglow: makes the track status keep updating to the end of track |
| 21:42:43 | lostlogic | instead of stopping with a few seconds left |
| 21:42:46 | preglow | goodgood |
| 21:42:54 | preglow | i have no idea how playback and buffering works, so don't think i can be of much use reviewing it, though |
| 21:43:07 | lostlogic | preglow: just wanted you to test since you complained ;) |
| 21:43:13 | preglow | will |
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| 22:44:17 | Slasheri | lostlogic: the patch looks good, however it doesn't work always with some hard special situations, like seeking when the playback is at the very end (try just seeking to the beginning, the elapsed time goes wrong as the track changes) |
| 22:44:27 | Slasheri | but i think you should commit it :) |
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| 22:45:25 | lostlogic | ok, I will take a few minutes to see if I can improve that brokenness, and commit it. thanks |
| 22:46:23 | lostlogic | why are pcmbuf_read_index and pcmbuf_write_index declared volatile? Do multiple threads read and write them to make that declaration necessary? It makes some of the compiled code slower than it would otherwise be. |
| 22:46:24 | amiconn | 'Improve that brokenness' sounds ambiguous ;) |
| 22:46:36 | lostlogic | amiconn: yep, I'm going to make sure the elapsed time is wrong at all times. |
| 22:46:51 | Slasheri | that can be hard to fix if we want to allow seeking of the previous track.. or you could just ignore the seeking if we are too end of the track |
| 22:47:03 | Slasheri | amiconn: hehe :D |
| 22:47:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | It sounds like you're trying to make it a better form of broken. |
| 22:47:21 | lostlogic | Slasheri: not sure I understand your last line |
| 22:47:49 | Slasheri | lostlogic: hmm, in fact i can try to improve that in future |
| 22:47:52 | Pi___ | silly question, what does << do? |
| 22:47:59 | lostlogic | Pi___: logical left shift |
| 22:48:09 | preglow | or arithmetic |
| 22:48:16 | preglow | in practice, at least |
| 22:48:27 | lostlogic | :) left shift, in short. |
| 22:48:54 | Pi___ | thanks though i dont know what it means, i can google that |
| 22:49:35 | Slasheri | lostlogic: it might be good to keep the indexes as volatile because dma interrupt modifies the read index at least.. but i am not sure if there is any real reason for that |
| 22:49:41 | preglow | it just shifts the bit pattern of a variable left |
| 22:49:57 | Pi___ | got it thanks |
| 22:50:13 | Slasheri | lostlogic: yep, seems to be unnecessary |
| 22:50:29 | Slasheri | i just wanted to be sure ;) |
| 22:50:48 | lostlogic | Slasheri: yeah, in concept they _are_ volatile... but inpractice the volatile declaration only makes the interrupt handler code slower and doesn't seem to impact the other uses of the variables. |
| 22:51:11 | Slasheri | ah.. then just go ahead and remove the volatile declarations |
| 22:51:20 | lostlogic | cool |
| 22:51:25 | Slasheri | those in pcmbuf.c seems to be useless at least |
| 22:51:55 | lostlogic | I wonder if it's enough to make a statistically significant difference :) |
| 22:52:02 | Slasheri | hehe :) |
| 22:57:03 | lostlogic | the problem with this kind of testing is that I end up making myself sick of whatever song I choose as a test track for the day :(] |
| 22:57:51 | preglow | good excuse to look up new music |
| 22:58:48 | lostlogic | Slasheri: is most of this audio engine all your code? |
| 22:59:12 | Slasheri | lostlogic: playback.c and pcmbuf.c mostly at least |
| 22:59:13 | lostlogic | there's some really impressive stuff in here. |
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| 22:59:18 | lostlogic | cool |
| 22:59:19 | Slasheri | hmm :D |
| 22:59:56 | Slasheri | just found a way to remove very little tiny pop when seeking |
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| 23:10:30 | linuxstb | lostlogic: Thanks for removing my accidental Makefile commit. |
| 23:10:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Consequently, that's the one that caused my Makefile to conflict. :-P |
| 23:11:14 | * | linuxstb bows head in shame |
| 23:11:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 23:11:47 | linuxstb | Good job the build system doesn't test "make clean". |
| 23:11:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oddly enough, it's because I'd added mpeg2 as well. |
| 23:11:58 | lostlogic | linuxstb: yeah, I was surprised it didn't |
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| 23:13:38 | Bagder | simply doing rm -rf * is way faster |
| 23:14:11 | * | Paul_The_Nerd agrees. |
| 23:14:15 | lostlogic | rm -rf [b-z]* apps if you don't want to kill autoconf.h and Makefile |
| 23:14:30 | linuxstb | But it's not good for sims if you've set up a nice archos directory. |
| 23:14:30 | Bagder | the build system always do configure |
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| 23:15:27 | linuxstb | Bagder: Can I interest you in my bmp2rb build-system patch? |
| 23:15:57 | Bagder | sure! |
| 23:16:14 | linuxstb | Check the logs from a couple of hours ago. |
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| 23:17:34 | linuxstb | It's not complete (it only deals with native bitmaps for the main LCD), but if my approach seems sensible, then I would like to commit it as it is now. |
| 23:18:08 | linuxstb | So bitmaps for the remote, and mono bitmaps used by all targets are still in the .c files. |
| 23:19:21 | Bagder | still a first step! |
| 23:19:49 | linuxstb | Yep, and it deals with the biggest bitmaps. The ones remaining in the source are relatively tiny. |
| 23:20:47 | linuxstb | The only thing we need to get right is the directory structure. I'm thinking that we need extra directories (or subdirectories in the bitmaps/ directories) to deal with the different formats. |
| 23:22:40 | Bagder | you mean if a single bmp is converted to more than one format? |
| 23:23:34 | linuxstb | That's the problem. Not only could it be a different format, but it could need a different name. The example is the logo - we have a mono logo for the archos devices, and the same mono logo for the iriver remote. |
| 23:24:07 | linuxstb | When that bitmap is used on the archos, we want it called "rockboxlogo", but when it is used for the remote, it should be something like "rockboxremotelogo" |
| 23:24:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | You could create a prefix setup. |
| 23:24:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Width_Height_Depth_Name, so they aren't named for their platform, but what screen they fit? |
| 23:25:01 | linuxstb | I'm starting to think that it would be cleaner to just have multiple copies of the .bmp files, rather than making the build system too complex. |
| 23:25:23 | Bagder | I agree |
| 23:25:28 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Yes, that's how the .bmp files themselves are named. But they need to be converted to a common name for use in Rockbox. |
| 23:26:13 | linuxstb | i.e. we have rockboxlogo.160x57x2.bmp, rockboxlogo.112x37x1.bmp and they are both converted to rockboxlogo[] in the .c file |
| 23:27:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aah |
| 23:27:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | The problem is that you'd use the 112x37x1 logo for the remote? |
| 23:27:19 | Bagder | I think your current effort is a good approach and should be committed |
| 23:27:54 | Bagder | the irivers could use a somewhat bigger logo for the remote anyway ;-) |
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| 23:29:02 | linuxstb | So we should extend it to have three bitmap directories - mono, native and remote - and not worry if the same .bmp files are duplicated? |
| 23:30:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I kinda like that way. |
| 23:30:04 | Bagder | isn't it just remote and main? |
| 23:30:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: What about, say, color remotes or other things? |
| 23:31:10 | linuxstb | No - we have mono bitmaps (i.e. the icons) which should always be mono, to allow for transparency and change of fg colour. |
| 23:31:18 | Bagder | ah, right |
| 23:32:08 | Bagder | so mono native and remote it is |
| 23:32:09 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Yes, colour remotes will simply be the addition of a fourth directory when that time comes. |
| 23:32:23 | Bagder | or having the remote ones be in color |
| 23:33:16 | linuxstb | Any preferences for directory structure? Should it be bitmaps_mono, bitmaps_native and bitmaps_remote or bitmaps/mono, bitmaps/native and bitmaps/remote ? |
| 23:33:31 | Bagder | I like bitmaps/mono |
| 23:33:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | I like bitmaps/blah too |
| 23:33:55 | linuxstb | So do I (even though it means adjusting my patch). |
| 23:33:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 23:34:31 | linuxstb | And I guess the same for the plugin bitmaps... |
| 23:35:49 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:37:14 | linuxstb | OK, I'll extend the patch to do that. |
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| 23:43:32 | amiconn | Bagder: There are potentially 4 different bitmap formats - the remote may have a different mono format than the main |
| 23:44:15 | amiconn | This will very probably happen for H300 |
| 23:44:53 | linuxstb | Yes, we can have remote_mono and remote_native directories. |
| 23:45:13 | linuxstb | Are you happy with the approach though? |
| 23:46:04 | * | Bagder goes to bed |
| 23:46:05 | amiconn | However, in case of the H300 remote, native==mono |
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| 23:47:22 | Moos | amiconn: and potentially the future iaudio remote 128*96 |
| 23:50:04 | amiconn | linuxstb: How does your bmp patch work? |
| 23:50:56 | amiconn | I think that we might be able to go without separate source bitmaps for different depths (mono vs. native), we'll probably only need different sizes |
| 23:51:28 | linuxstb | Download this file: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.tgz |
| 23:51:28 | amiconn | The difference will be the switch used when invoking bmp2rb |
| 23:52:02 | linuxstb | This is the apps/bitmaps directory (and Makefile and SOURCES) and also the apps/plugins/bitmaps/ directory. The actual changes to the build system probably aren't what you're interested in. |
| 23:52:31 | preglow | automatically converting from colour to mono wont always be pretty |
| 23:52:33 | linuxstb | I am planning to extend that to have subdirectories for the different types of bitmaps - mono, native, remote_mono and remote_native |
| 23:52:50 | linuxstb | Each of those four subdirectories will be processed with their own bmp2rb command. |
| 23:55:05 | amiconn | Hmmmmmm |
| 23:55:21 | amiconn | linuxstb: Where is that makebmp.inc ? |
| 23:55:32 | linuxstb | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.diff |
| 23:55:43 | linuxstb | Just switching computers - brb |
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| 23:58:47 | amiconn | re |
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