| 00:00:03 | amiconn | I suppose that I need some kind of dev package, but there is none for cygwin |
| 00:00:22 | Bagder | amiconn: so how do you get the proper options to build with SDL without sdl-config? |
| 00:01:25 | linuxstb | amiconn: Just download the source and compile. http://www.libsdl.org/extras/win32/cygwin/README.txt |
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| 00:02:45 | infamis | Moos: 7 sec on h140? Is that for every startup? On my x5, when you first add music to the hard drive & it takes a long time (5+ seconds, but depending on how much you added) but every successive time is instant (about 2-3 secs from power up to usability). |
| 00:03:25 | Moos | you talk about bootime? |
| 00:03:33 | preglow | i've never ever needed sdl-config |
| 00:03:39 | amiconn | linuxstb: Gah, cumbersome |
| 00:03:41 | Bagder | 2-3? |
| 00:03:45 | Bagder | my x5 takes >10 secs |
| 00:03:53 | | Join Ayn [0] (n=ayn@nl112-170-131.student.uu.se) |
| 00:03:55 | infamis | yup |
| 00:03:59 | preglow | Bagder: what, you have an x5 as well now?? |
| 00:04:03 | XavierGr | Bagder you have an x5 since when? |
| 00:04:03 | Bagder | I do |
| 00:04:15 | linuxstb | amiconn: What do you expect? It's a library - so you need to install it. |
| 00:04:16 | | Quit birdfish () |
| 00:04:26 | infamis | Bagder: on every bootup? |
| 00:04:31 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:04:36 | Bagder | on a clean boot just now |
| 00:04:55 | preglow | you don't need to |
| 00:04:57 | Bagder | and I didn't add a file in weeks |
| 00:04:57 | XavierGr | infamis: have you clocked it or you suppose. (it feels like 2-3 seconds) |
| 00:05:03 | preglow | amiconn: there are precompiled dev libs on the site as well |
| 00:05:12 | Rob2222 | the 60GB toshiba drive needs 10% more power average than the 20GB... if thats does a matter... |
| 00:05:22 | XavierGr | gah |
| 00:05:30 | amiconn | preglow: Not for cygwin |
| 00:05:31 | XavierGr | I have an 60 in my H100 |
| 00:05:32 | infamis | XavierGr: mainly I suppose. I'll clock it right now (that is after I reassemble it....) |
| 00:05:36 | preglow | amiconn: the mingw ones should work |
| 00:05:36 | Moos | infamis: with my iriver boot time was aroubd 30sec with Rb 7sec |
| 00:05:53 | infamis | Moos: haha...I'd give up already! |
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| 00:06:22 | preglow | amiconn: besides, doesn't cygwin have sdl dev libs anyway? |
| 00:06:28 | preglow | amiconn: pretty sure i saw that listed in the installer |
| 00:06:37 | amiconn | nope |
| 00:06:38 | Ayn | Bagder: i just found the iaudio x5 thread on the forums - how's it going? |
| 00:06:46 | Ayn | i'll be interested in helping out when possible |
| 00:06:48 | amiconn | I *just* checked the installer |
| 00:06:48 | Bagder | the sim works |
| 00:07:07 | Ayn | ah :) gonna compile it now then |
| 00:07:09 | RedLeg | One last try: Has anyone ever seen "ATA: -11" as an error message immediately at poweron? |
| 00:07:11 | Bagder | now with linuxstb's bmp build, we can even get a fine boot logo for the x5 easy enough |
| 00:07:28 | linuxstb | Does the x5 have an lcd remote? |
| 00:07:34 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:07:34 | Moos | yes |
| 00:07:39 | preglow | amiconn: anyway, the mingw libs should work, i reckon |
| 00:07:40 | Ayn | just need to dive into rockbox building howto :p |
| 00:07:52 | infamis | ^ same here |
| 00:07:57 | Moos | linuxstb: size 128*96 |
| 00:07:57 | Bagder | go go go ;-) |
| 00:08:03 | linuxstb | Moos: Depth? |
| 00:08:12 | Moos | yes |
| 00:08:22 | infamis | I'm already studying the cvs repository |
| 00:08:25 | Bagder | Ayn: getting a feel for the sim is actually quite useful for "real" rockbox hacking |
| 00:08:30 | Rob2222 | <= depressed |
| 00:09:48 | preglow | <= preglow |
| 00:09:59 | Bagder | <= moo |
| 00:10:03 | Moos | :) |
| 00:10:12 | preglow | is it that time already? |
| 00:10:21 | Bagder | nah, not quite yet ;-) |
| 00:10:24 | Ayn | Bagder: ok, great - i haven't messed around with rockbox at all previously so it seems like a great way to get acquainted with it :) |
| 00:10:35 | XavierGr | what time to say moo? |
| 00:10:39 | XavierGr | ah okay :D |
| 00:10:59 | Rob2222 | http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:-fbH-9UCJU4J:www.powerready.co.kr/powerpartner/layout.php%3Fmain%3Dskc.php++LPCS355385&hl=de <= thats really the original manufacturer of (at least ) my H340 battery. have SKC on my stock battery |
| 00:10:59 | infamis | where is any of the x5 code at? public yet? |
| 00:11:20 | Bagder | infamis: Rockbox is a single software, Rockbox for x5 will still be plain Rockbox |
| 00:11:34 | Bagder | only with x5 drivers |
| 00:11:37 | Rob2222 | So the H340 has definitely a 1400mA battery. |
| 00:11:38 | Bagder | and a x5 bootloader |
| 00:11:55 | infamis | or I guess mainly the bootloader |
| 00:12:00 | RedLeg | Can anyone offer assistance with a hardware error? "ATA: -11" at poweron with a Jukebox 20 recorder... |
| 00:12:17 | Bagder | infamis: the LCD differs from the other models too |
| 00:12:23 | Bagder | and it is a slightly different CPU |
| 00:12:26 | Bagder | etc |
| 00:12:37 | Rob2222 | Does anyone know the shutoff voltage of the iriver FW? |
| 00:13:25 | Rob2222 | LPCS355385 MIN1350 AVG1400 |
| 00:13:25 | Rob2222 | 3) Average Rated Capacity (Discharge@0.2 C, Cut off 3.0 V) |
| 00:13:30 | Rob2222 | cut off 3,0V |
| 00:13:31 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 00:13:42 | * | amiconn didn't play more than a single minute of audio in the iriver firmware |
| 00:14:03 | amiconn | I only used it to flash the bootloader, and once fiddled with USBOTG |
| 00:14:07 | | Quit ender` (" If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.") |
| 00:14:10 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 00:14:15 | amiconn | The latter works, but operating it is cumbersome |
| 00:14:54 | amiconn | The SRS thing sounds like crap |
| 00:15:18 | Moos | preglow: a propos any news about your EQ? |
| 00:16:57 | XavierGr | Now that I think of EQ. |
| 00:17:17 | XavierGr | Many companies advertise how many EQ presets their players have. |
| 00:17:37 | XavierGr | E.G iriver advertised that has 5 + 2 (SRS and WOW I think) |
| 00:17:51 | XavierGr | When preglow is done with its parametric EQ. |
| 00:18:06 | infamis | parametric??? uh oh... |
| 00:18:13 | | Quit RedLeg ("Leaving") |
| 00:18:14 | XavierGr | IIt would be possible to have infinite presets that are in a file. |
| 00:18:47 | XavierGr | E.G x user makes it's own presets and saves them to a file. Then the y user can use this file and see the presets of x user. |
| 00:19:12 | Moos | is the preglow choice I think |
| 00:19:26 | preglow | no time for eq |
| 00:19:26 | XavierGr | Something like the multiple fmr preset, that I made, but unfortunately this patch still remains on the tracker without any feedback from the devs. |
| 00:19:28 | preglow | no time for rockbox |
| 00:19:34 | preglow | gimme a couple of weeks and we'll see |
| 00:19:46 | XavierGr | just proposing, not to hurry. |
| 00:19:56 | infamis | or what about foobar2k-compatible eq files? |
| 00:19:58 | preglow | if someone else made the gui, i'd be very happy |
| 00:20:01 | * | infamis joins in the proposing |
| 00:20:04 | preglow | i'm a low-level guy |
| 00:20:26 | XavierGr | preglow make the main code, and commit it and I am sure we have many GUI guys arround. |
| 00:20:27 | preglow | i can provide you with eq routines pretty fast |
| 00:20:31 | preglow | that part is more or less done |
| 00:20:37 | preglow | ok, let's see |
| 00:20:45 | XavierGr | then why are you delaying it? |
| 00:20:47 | preglow | filter design code is more or less done |
| 00:21:24 | Moos | yes maybe if you begin to commit, that will attract gui men |
| 00:21:28 | preglow | but ok, i'll do that then |
| 00:21:33 | preglow | but it still wont happen for a little while |
| 00:21:42 | preglow | i've got some other work that's fairly pressing, and it's stealing a lot of time |
| 00:21:46 | XavierGr | gogo preglow, commit your valuable work |
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| 00:22:42 | XavierGr | With a full parametric EQ other firmware will have nothing more than Rockbox. (not that I use EQ but many people do) |
| 00:23:06 | preglow | but sure |
| 00:23:31 | preglow | if you guys who would actually want to use this eq could start speccing out how it should sit in rockbox, i can commit the core routines sooner or later |
| 00:23:45 | infamis | rio karma only dap I know with para-eq... |
| 00:24:16 | Moos | yes rio fw is one "referenc" in term of EQ |
| 00:26:10 | * | amiconn spots a README.AmigaOS in the SDL sources |
| 00:27:18 | preglow | sdl supports quite a bit of hardware now |
| 00:27:47 | amiconn | Maybe I could run the rockbox sim on A4000 ... |
| 00:28:27 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:28:48 | amiconn | Hmm, that would be actually slower than iriver target |
| 00:29:10 | amiconn | ...unless we start using floating point ;) |
| 00:31:01 | Rob2222 | have a good night @ all |
| 00:35:23 | Bagder | linuxstb: nice work with the bmp build! |
| 00:35:55 | | Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") |
| 00:36:42 | linuxstb | Bagder: Thanks. I'm glad I've got rid of it. Now we need someone to extract all the existing bitmaps out of the .c files... |
| 00:38:00 | Bagder | yeps |
| 00:38:34 | preglow | shouldn't be that harda |
| 00:38:39 | preglow | attractive work, though :) |
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| 00:38:48 | BHSPitLappy | who's attractive? |
| 00:38:50 | BHSPitLappy | huh? |
| 00:38:58 | Bagder | you, when you fix that |
| 00:39:00 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:39:04 | linuxstb | Ah, a volunteer. |
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| 00:39:56 | | Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 00:40:24 | BHSPitLappy | hmm? |
| 00:40:33 | | Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) |
| 00:40:37 | preglow | BHSPitLappy: run! |
| 00:40:41 | * | BHSPitLappy runs |
| 00:41:01 | BHSPitLappy | i'm not worried about accidental volunteering, since I have no C programming ability :) |
| 00:41:14 | preglow | someone give this man commit access |
| 00:41:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 00:43:13 | amiconn | Built and installed SDL. Now configuring an SDL sim is possible, but the build fails already in the sim part |
| 00:43:24 | preglow | on what? |
| 00:43:38 | amiconn | A warning first: |
| 00:43:38 | amiconn | In file included from lcd-x11.h:24, |
| 00:43:39 | amiconn | from lcd-x11.c:41: |
| 00:43:39 | amiconn | /home/Administrator/rb-patched/firmware/export/lcd.h:32:1: warning: "MAX_PATH" redefined |
| 00:43:39 | amiconn | In file included from lcd-x11.c:23: |
| 00:43:39 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 00:43:39 | amiconn | /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-mingw32/3.4.4/../../../../i686-pc-mingw32/include/stdlib.h:46:1: warning: this |
| 00:43:40 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 00:43:40 | amiconn | is the location of the previous definition |
| 00:43:51 | amiconn | thread.c: In function `msleep': |
| 00:43:51 | amiconn | thread.c:44: warning: implicit declaration of function `select' |
| 00:43:51 | amiconn | thread.c: In function `update_tick_thread': |
| 00:43:51 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 00:43:51 | amiconn | thread.c:58: warning: implicit declaration of function `gettimeofday' |
| 00:43:52 | preglow | lcd-x11??? |
| 00:44:05 | preglow | it seems the sdl port is not yet finished |
| 00:44:12 | amiconn | Then the error: |
| 00:44:12 | amiconn | CC lcd-common.c |
| 00:44:12 | amiconn | lcd-common.c:28:23: lcd-win32.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:44:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 00:44:12 | amiconn | make[1]: *** [/home/Administrator/rb-patched/simulator-build/sdl-recorder/comsim/lcd-common.o] Error |
| 00:44:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 00:44:12 | amiconn | 1 |
| 00:44:13 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 00:44:13 | amiconn | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 00:44:14 | Bagder | the file names are from the x11 sim |
| 00:44:22 | amiconn | Not only |
| 00:44:27 | amiconn | The latter is from win32 |
| 00:45:02 | amiconn | It seems the reason is that SDL for win32 (also on cygwin) maps to native win32 (as it should) |
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| 00:45:43 | amiconn | So there are quite some non-gfx functions which either need to be ported to use sdl functions where possible, or continue to exist in 2 versions |
| 00:45:56 | Bagder | sdl I'd say |
| 00:46:06 | amiconn | Yes, if they exist |
| 00:46:27 | Bagder | what kind of functions would not exist? |
| 00:46:29 | amiconn | I have no idea about what is covered by SDL, |
| 00:47:04 | Bagder | right, there would still be *some* ifdefs for win32/posix |
| 00:47:06 | amiconn | maybe timers, threading, ... |
| 00:47:10 | preglow | nope |
| 00:47:11 | preglow | all are covered |
| 00:47:24 | linuxstb | amiconn: threading has already been ported to SDL |
| 00:47:38 | preglow | the only thing i know is missing from sdl is recording |
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| 00:48:12 | * | linuxstb rolls up his sleeves and goes memory alignment debugging in dircache |
| 00:48:43 | Bagder | a worthy task indeed |
| 00:49:05 | linuxstb | preglow: So "Data abort" is the error I'm going to get used to? |
| 00:49:37 | preglow | linuxstb: yeah |
| 00:50:10 | linuxstb | Very handle exception handler. |
| 00:50:14 | linuxstb | s/handle/handy/ |
| 00:50:19 | preglow | as in how? |
| 00:50:27 | amiconn | So it looks like the sdl port is far from finished. Otherwise I wouldn't get the select() and gettimeofday() warnings |
| 00:50:33 | preglow | amiconn: apparently |
| 00:50:43 | preglow | amiconn: it still seems to use unix functions |
| 00:52:06 | BHSPitLappy | when will the ipod be a recognized port? |
| 00:52:18 | BHSPitLappy | good audio i guess? |
| 00:52:18 | preglow | BHSPitLappy: as soon as we get proper sound support, if it's up to me |
| 00:52:23 | BHSPitLappy | mmk |
| 00:52:24 | | Quit Xerion_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:52:32 | Bagder | oh yes, that'll be a cheerful day |
| 00:52:32 | preglow | proper audio take 1 will be getting codecs and audio running on one core |
| 00:52:37 | BHSPitLappy | how "proper" are we approaching :) |
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| 00:52:49 | preglow | if that works, i'll vote for getting daily builds up |
| 00:52:55 | elinenbe | 81 people in the channel... is that a record? |
| 00:53:02 | JdGordon | how do i change the colour lcd_fillrect uses? |
| 00:53:06 | Bagder | yeps, I'll add that the very instant |
| 00:53:20 | amiconn | JdGordon: lcd_set_foreground() |
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| 00:53:28 | preglow | and the second i have time now, i'll start on making it work |
| 00:53:36 | * | preglow kicks c++ and calls it a day |
| 00:53:57 | JdGordon | amiconn: thanx, i did that, but its still black... what colour is red? |
| 00:54:14 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 00:54:14 | * | BHSPitLappy gives preglow time |
| 00:54:41 | nave7693 | hi any archos people around this time? :P |
| 00:54:54 | * | elinenbe wonders the status of the iaudio target? Is anyone working on a bootloader for it? |
| 00:55:15 | Bagder | elinenbe: not very hard atm, no |
| 00:55:22 | BHSPitLappy | any ROKR porters around here? |
| 00:55:31 | BHSPitLappy | ;) |
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| 00:57:04 | | Quit t0mas ("good night") |
| 00:57:13 | elinenbe | Bagder: do any of the head developers have an iaudio? |
| 00:57:19 | preglow | he's got one :P |
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| 00:57:22 | preglow | linus |
| 00:57:46 | preglow | they will get their punishments in hell, for not buying ipods |
| 00:57:53 | Bagder | hah |
| 00:58:11 | elinenbe | linus, master of all things bootloader. |
| 00:58:40 | elinenbe | rockbox has come such a long way in such a short amount of time... good job everyone. |
| 00:58:44 | * | birdfish patiently awaits his ipod 5g |
| 00:58:58 | * | birdfish stares at his iaudio x5 |
| 00:58:59 | Bagder | birdfish: now that won't run rockbox in a while |
| 00:59:00 | elinenbe | what's the deal with the ipod v3/color patch −− nice! |
| 00:59:10 | preglow | 5g already runs rockbox |
| 00:59:18 | Bagder | yes, I might play music |
| 00:59:21 | Bagder | meant |
| 00:59:25 | Bagder | gee I can't type |
| 00:59:25 | preglow | hehe |
| 00:59:26 | birdfish | Back in a bit guys. Gotta run to reboot a couple servers |
| 00:59:27 | elinenbe | preglow: are you working on the ipod port? |
| 00:59:31 | preglow | elinenbe: yessir |
| 00:59:42 | * | linuxstb was just playing brickmania on his 5g |
| 00:59:55 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 00:59:56 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:59:56 | BHSPitLappy | brickmania? |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:08 | elinenbe | preglow: are you trying to incorporate the that new patch? |
| 01:00:12 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: It's one of those unofficial plugins. |
| 01:00:14 | BHSPitLappy | what's wrong with Brick? |
| 01:00:15 | BHSPitLappy | :P |
| 01:00:25 | preglow | elinenbe: the what new patch? |
| 01:00:41 | linuxstb | It's far, far superior to Brick. |
| 01:00:43 | Bagder | preglow: there was a 3g patch posted earlier today |
| 01:00:48 | preglow | right, no |
| 01:00:51 | preglow | i don't have a 3g |
| 01:01:13 | preglow | if i get someone's word that it works, then sure, i'll commit, but the patch had better just be ready for commital |
| 01:01:27 | elinenbe | understandable. |
| 01:01:28 | linuxstb | Yes, it's from "slimx" - he was here when he posted the patch. But no, I don't think it's quite clean enough for commital yet. |
| 01:01:54 | Bagder | still cool that he's working on it |
| 01:01:58 | preglow | sure |
| 01:02:05 | preglow | a lot of pp5002 code was left out |
| 01:02:09 | preglow | by yours truly |
| 01:02:13 | preglow | se he has to re-add it |
| 01:02:14 | * | Bagder assumes that he is a 'he' ;-) |
| 01:02:15 | preglow | so |
| 01:02:23 | * | BHSPitLappy thinks preglow should be committed |
| 01:02:26 | elinenbe | what's the deal with audio on the ipod? is that all that is left to do? |
| 01:02:30 | preglow | to an asylum, no doubt |
| 01:03:07 | preglow | elinenbe: hell no, but that's a rather big missing feature |
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| 01:03:31 | preglow | we still need to adapt rockbox to work on two cores in a limited fashion, plus work on better cpu speed adjustment |
| 01:03:43 | BHSPitLappy | anyone in here who knows anything about the fonts? |
| 01:04:01 | BHSPitLappy | e.g. RB11 vs RB12, etc |
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| 01:04:32 | preglow | enable timer number two, use the click wheel more, adapt all the plugins to use proper screen sizes, etc |
| 01:04:36 | preglow | tons to do |
| 01:05:30 | linuxstb | Mmm. Now dircache doesn't throw any exception, but it still seems to freeze. |
| 01:05:31 | Bagder | BHSPitLappy: as usual, ask, don't ask if you can ask |
| 01:05:46 | * | linuxstb is stupid... |
| 01:05:50 | elinenbe | preglow: looks like you have some work cut out for you. |
| 01:06:04 | BHSPitLappy | Bagder: I did ask something :D |
| 01:06:06 | preglow | yes i do, but i hardly think i'll deal with all of it |
| 01:06:08 | elinenbe | does the ipod linux project give much insight into what you need to do? |
| 01:06:14 | preglow | i'll do the low-level stuff |
| 01:06:18 | Bagder | BHSPitLappy: ok, rb12 is the current font format |
| 01:06:20 | preglow | and then i'll resume my codec/dsp workings |
| 01:06:25 | BHSPitLappy | Bagder: and it's not as simple as a single question |
| 01:06:29 | amiconn | Plugins aren't even completely adjusted to H1x0, let alone H3x0 |
| 01:06:34 | elinenbe | ah... the sirius S50 is based on pretty much the same portal chipset. |
| 01:06:43 | BHSPitLappy | Bagder: I converted myself a FNT, it's apparently RB12 |
| 01:06:56 | Bagder | yes, that's the current font format |
| 01:07:03 | BHSPitLappy | Bagder: which doesn't load in iPL, that supports RB11 |
| 01:07:03 | Bagder | stored in the header |
| 01:07:11 | Bagder | right |
| 01:07:16 | Bagder | I've pointed this out to them |
| 01:07:21 | BHSPitLappy | would an older version of bdfconv or whatever help me out here |
| 01:07:25 | Bagder | they care about this much −−-> <−−−− |
| 01:07:31 | Bagder | cared |
| 01:07:38 | BHSPitLappy | well |
| 01:07:39 | amiconn | Hmm, I know a second solution for the two-mono-format problem and fonts, at least temporary until the font format & loader gets extended |
| 01:07:44 | Bagder | BHSPitLappy: yes, get an older version |
| 01:08:07 | BHSPitLappy | i talked to josh about it, says we can't really load it without HD integration |
| 01:08:19 | Bagder | ? |
| 01:08:20 | elinenbe | amiconn: are you going to work on the font format/loader to support 2 concurrently loaded fonts? |
| 01:08:23 | amiconn | We once had font bitmap transposition in the font loader, before we changed from the original microwindows format to the one we currently use |
| 01:08:34 | elinenbe | such as 1 large font, and 1 smaller font loaded at the same time? |
| 01:08:47 | Bagder | amiconn: was that really "the original microwindows" format? |
| 01:08:56 | amiconn | elinenbe: No, I'm thinking about methods to speeeed up gfx on H3x0 and other colour targets |
| 01:09:26 | amiconn | Bagder: At least it was closer to the original than what we have now |
| 01:09:27 | Bagder | BHSPitLappy: the point is that the current format is just _so_ much better |
| 01:09:33 | elinenbe | amiconn: ah. |
| 01:09:56 | Bagder | smaller files that loads faster with less CPU load |
| 01:10:03 | amiconn | elinenbe: In fact the font loader is already prepared to support multiple fonts. The rest of rockbox is not |
| 01:10:21 | BHSPitLappy | Bagder: if that's so, then why wouldn't pz be able to handle it? |
| 01:10:29 | Bagder | pz? |
| 01:10:29 | elinenbe | amiconn: ah... so that would take a bit of work then. |
| 01:10:32 | BHSPitLappy | podzilla |
| 01:10:41 | Bagder | BHSPitLappy: there's no reason they can't |
| 01:10:47 | elinenbe | is there anywhere anyone knows of that still sells h340s? |
| 01:10:51 | preglow | bah, i need sleep, good night all |
| 01:10:52 | BHSPitLappy | hmm... |
| 01:11:00 | elinenbe | I just checked around, and it seems they are sold out everywhere now. |
| 01:11:09 | amiconn | BHSPitLappy: Maybe there'll soon be RB13... |
| 01:11:10 | elinenbe | I have a H320, but an H340 would be nice. |
| 01:11:11 | Bagder | elinenbe: someone posted a list of links on the mailing list the other day |
| 01:11:28 | elinenbe | bagder: I must have missed that |
| 01:11:28 | amiconn | elinenbe: Try eBay, that's where I got my H340 from |
| 01:11:45 | elinenbe | amiconn: that's such a crapshoot though. |
| 01:12:01 | Bagder | time to say moo! |
| 01:12:21 | BHSPitLappy | Bagder: look at this http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ipodlinux.log-2006-01-23 , around 06:22 |
| 01:12:33 | amiconn | elinenbe: You can also wait for single-platter 40GB drives and then put it in your H320 |
| 01:13:44 | elinenbe | amiconn: true that, but I would like an 80GB H340 then... ;) |
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| 01:14:15 | JdGordon | u can put a dual platter disk in the h320... but u have to get rid of some plastic protectors in it |
| 01:14:40 | elinenbe | JdGordon: I'd rather not modify the plastic. |
| 01:14:42 | muesli__ | and u cant use a stronger battery in that case |
| 01:14:53 | muesli__ | doesnt fit anymore |
| 01:15:14 | elinenbe | muesli__: can't use a larger battery in a H340, or can't use a larger battery in a H320 modded? |
| 01:15:41 | muesli__ | u cant use a 40gb hdd + stronger bat |
| 01:15:49 | muesli__ | in a h320 |
| 01:17:34 | elinenbe | muesli__: thanks, but can you use a stronger bat in a H340? |
| 01:17:37 | elinenbe | I would assume you can... |
| 01:17:40 | muesli__ | sure |
| 01:18:03 | muesli__ | but no h320 + 40dualplatter + stronger bat |
| 01:18:06 | muesli__ | not |
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| 01:19:42 | muesli__ | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8722511089&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT |
| 01:19:50 | muesli__ | theres a 40gb single platter |
| 01:19:59 | muesli__ | at least it says that |
| 01:20:15 | muesli__ | but the thing is, there is no 4006 single platter |
| 01:20:21 | muesli__ | theres a 4007 |
| 01:20:37 | muesli__ | but its said in that auction its 5mm in height |
| 01:20:43 | amiconn | GAL indicates single platter |
| 01:20:51 | amiconn | GAH would be dual platter |
| 01:21:11 | muesli__ | nice to know..i never could keep that in mind |
| 01:21:24 | muesli__ | but as i said..there is no 4006 on toshibas website |
| 01:21:25 | muesli__ | :o |
| 01:21:49 | elinenbe | what is the height of the 20GB drive? |
| 01:22:03 | muesli__ | 5mm |
| 01:22:08 | muesli__ | =single |
| 01:22:11 | muesli__ | 8mm=dual |
| 01:22:11 | elinenbe | ah/. |
| 01:22:32 | BHSPitLappy | Bagder: you there? |
| 01:23:10 | amiconn | muesli__: Hmm, you're right. Something is wrong with that offer |
| 01:23:36 | muesli__ | ive emailed that seller. he said he got his data from his distributor |
| 01:24:11 | muesli__ | i really would love to check that offer since my hdd is broken |
| 01:24:24 | muesli__ | i coud resend it easily |
| 01:24:27 | muesli__ | l |
| 01:24:53 | muesli__ | im tempted to do it :o |
| 01:25:02 | * | amiconn wants a 8007GAH |
| 01:25:19 | muesli__ | :-) |
| 01:25:20 | lostlogic | perpendicular recording power! |
| 01:25:47 | amiconn | I would put it into my H340, and put the (silent) 40GB from that into my H140, whose HDD got noisy from dropping it |
| 01:25:50 | muesli__ | http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/images/pr%20images/Get_Perpendicular.swf |
| 01:26:21 | laniik | hey, im thinking of writing a graphical equalizer for the iriver port |
| 01:26:35 | muesli__ | i had a 60gb which was significally muter than the stock in one |
| 01:26:40 | laniik | i know its on the nodo list cause the archos wont support it, but i think the sound decoding is done in software for the iriver |
| 01:26:44 | laniik | does anyone know if this has been done? |
| 01:27:14 | birdfish | Back guys |
| 01:27:20 | birdfish | About the 5G |
| 01:27:33 | birdfish | Will color support? Or is that a very distant dream? |
| 01:28:11 | lostlogic | it'll have color support |
| 01:28:18 | linuxstb | What do you mean? Rockbox already has colour on the 5G. |
| 01:28:57 | birdfish | Oh. I thought someone said that it wasn't running properly on the 5G |
| 01:29:11 | linuxstb | A (bad) photo: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-ipodvideo.jpg |
| 01:29:21 | birdfish | Nice :D |
| 01:29:37 | amiconn | -17 °C outside... |
| 01:29:42 | linuxstb | The LCD is relatively slow, but it's still usable. Audio will be the problem on the 5G. |
| 01:30:09 | midkay | ipod video? WHAT?! |
| 01:30:11 | birdfish | Will the drivers for the screen be improved? Or is the plan to leave them as they are? |
| 01:30:25 | BHSPitLappy | amiconn: do you have any idea where I could find a converter for the RB11 format? |
| 01:30:42 | lostlogic | linuxstb: does the broadcom video chip have a DMA to the LCD or something to give it the video quality they brag about? |
| 01:30:42 | midkay | i've got an ipod video.. definitely interested in rockboxing it :) |
| 01:31:47 | amiconn | BHSPitLappy: Build an old convbdf |
| 01:32:02 | * | BHSPitLappy = dumb about cvs |
| 01:32:03 | linuxstb | birdfish: For me, the screen is a low priority. But that doesn't prevent anyone else working on it. If the IPL people make a breakthrough with their LCD driver, then Rockbox would also benefit. |
| 01:32:43 | linuxstb | midkay: If you're happy to compile it yourself, then you can do it now. |
| 01:33:11 | linuxstb | There's no audio, but the bootloader allows you to dual-boot between Rockbox and the Apple firmware. |
| 01:33:32 | birdfish | linuxstb: perhaps I am not understanding what you mean by slow. (video playback would not be an issue for me) But as fast as being able to scrolls smoothly through the menus... That would be a definite. |
| 01:33:37 | BHSPitLappy | amiconn: about how old is this format? |
| 01:33:41 | midkay | linuxstb, sounds very cool.. i might try that soon :) |
| 01:33:59 | birdfish | fast = far |
| 01:34:06 | midkay | linuxstb, instructions on the site or anything? i've seen the ipodport pages and the like, no instructions as far as i can recall though |
| 01:34:12 | linuxstb | birdfish: As I said, it's slow but definitely usable. If there was audio playback, then I would have no problems using Rockbox every day. |
| 01:34:13 | BHSPitLappy | birdfish: the LCD just updates very slowly |
| 01:34:43 | birdfish | Okay :) |
| 01:34:47 | BHSPitLappy | (relative to how LCD's should perform) |
| 01:34:53 | linuxstb | midkay: Start here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot |
| 01:35:13 | BHSPitLappy | midkay: it's the same situation in linux |
| 01:35:16 | linuxstb | But don't forget that it's also a large LCD - 320x240 is a lot of pixels to move around. |
| 01:35:17 | BHSPitLappy | so no iDoom :P |
| 01:35:30 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, ah, damnit ;) |
| 01:35:32 | amiconn | BHSPitLappy: convbdf is a single source file, so you can download it from viewcvs: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/tools/convbdf.c?rev=1.8 |
| 01:35:33 | BHSPitLappy | and there hasn't been enough vidcore RE'ing yet :) |
| 01:35:38 | midkay | linuxstb, thanks, i'll check it out |
| 01:36:21 | lostlogic | is the ipod's SDRAM faster than the H3x0? Otherwise the framebuffer is going to be remain killer. |
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| 01:36:56 | BHSPitLappy | amiconn: should I just plant that in my cvs tree, or can I build it independently? |
| 01:37:13 | linuxstb | Either should work. |
| 01:37:31 | linuxstb | But it would probably break your Rockbox builds. |
| 01:37:33 | amiconn | BHSPitLappy: I would put it somewhere in a dir, and make convbdf |
| 01:37:51 | amiconn | Putting it in the build tree will probably confuse the rest of the rockbox build process |
| 01:38:09 | BHSPitLappy | don't the tools all "make" collectively? |
| 01:38:32 | BHSPitLappy | one Makefile |
| 01:39:25 | amiconn | You don't need a makefile if you build convbdf separately |
| 01:39:44 | amiconn | Just put the .c in an arbitrary dir, and type 'make convbdf' |
| 01:40:05 | BHSPitLappy | ah |
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| 01:40:10 | * | BHSPitLappy learns something new every day |
| 01:40:30 | amiconn | 'make' will use its default rules |
| 01:41:13 | BHSPitLappy | "make: Nothing to be done for 'convbdf.c'. |
| 01:42:13 | BHSPitLappy | (output) |
| 01:42:34 | amiconn | make convbdf, not convbdf.c |
| 01:42:40 | BHSPitLappy | ahh |
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| 01:42:52 | BHSPitLappy | gracias, profesor |
| 01:45:06 | BHSPitLappy | one more thing, when I did this before, I used "-l ###" to limit to english characters |
| 01:45:10 | linuxstb | lostlogic: I think all access to the Video's LCD is done via the broadcom processor. So the ARM has to pass data to the broadcom chip, which then updates the LCD. |
| 01:45:13 | BHSPitLappy | do you know the number? |
| 01:45:36 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: you know about the vidcore resources right? |
| 01:45:38 | lostlogic | linuxstb: that makes sense for a device like that. cool. |
| 01:47:35 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: I've looked at the files a little, but am concentrating on finishing Rockbox on the other ipods before I spend too much time investigating the video. |
| 01:47:45 | BHSPitLappy | mmhmm |
| 01:48:07 | BHSPitLappy | those .TTF fonts in that resources folder, they're weird too |
| 01:48:20 | linuxstb | Weird, how? |
| 01:48:23 | BHSPitLappy | no OS recognizes them as normal ttf's |
| 01:48:34 | BHSPitLappy | I'd sure like to be able to get a real font out of them |
| 01:48:37 | coob | cause they're otf bitmaps |
| 01:48:46 | BHSPitLappy | for rizzle? |
| 01:48:54 | coob | speak english you imbecile. |
| 01:48:58 | BHSPitLappy | heh. |
| 01:49:55 | BHSPitLappy | * coob has had a low tolerance for humans today |
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| 01:55:53 | amiconn | linuxstb: I had an idea for simplifying sudoku code a litte: |
| 01:56:44 | amiconn | It would save an extra drawing step if you simply add an (imaginary) 10th element to cell?pos[] |
| 01:56:53 | amiconn | ...which is used for grid drawing only |
| 01:57:13 | BHSPitLappy | can someone be kind enough to tell me the code for the english charset? |
| 01:57:18 | BHSPitLappy | (US if it matters) |
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| 01:59:19 | amiconn | linuxstb: What about adding an extra parameter to bmp2rb, which will output the bitmap dimension macros to a file (appending it) instead of the generated .c file? |
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| 02:00:22 | amiconn | This output would then be directed into the needed .h file by the build system |
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| 02:00:34 | linuxstb | I understand what you mean with Sudoku - but I'm not really interested in looking at that again.... I'm sure there could be a lot of things cleaned up with it. |
| 02:00:50 | linuxstb | And yes, that's what I was thinking for bmp2rb. |
| 02:01:22 | laniik | hey is the iriver h100 series sh1 or m68? |
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| 02:02:13 | mirak | m68 |
| 02:03:19 | laniik | tnx |
| 02:04:22 | linuxstb | The .h file could also have an "extern const ..." definition for the bitmap itself, but I was thinking of having individual .h files for each bitmap. |
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| 02:17:12 | laniik | the first time developer docs are fantastic. thanks |
| 02:18:19 | linuxstb | Where are they? |
| 02:18:51 | laniik | website? |
| 02:19:14 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 02:19:17 | linuxstb | I meant which page(s) in particular did you find helpful? I'm just curious. |
| 02:20:02 | laniik | oh just stuff on setting up cvs and the build enviornment |
| 02:20:15 | laniik | first foray into open source stuff, not familiar with the processes |
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| 02:21:23 | laniik | ah and theres the cygwin fail on building dumb. |
| 02:21:38 | linuxstb | Yes, I've forgotten how much useful stuff is on the website. |
| 02:26:16 | amiconn | laniik: using the devkit or a full cygwin installation |
| 02:26:19 | amiconn | ? |
| 02:26:30 | amiconn | cygwin doesn't fail on dumb here |
| 02:27:56 | laniik | im using a full cygwin installation i believe |
| 02:28:21 | laniik | should i try to apply the gcc patch at : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 02:29:29 | linuxstb | Which version of gcc have you installed? |
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| 02:30:23 | laniik | 3.4.4 |
| 02:30:33 | amiconn | linuxstb: Would it be possible to let the build system only build those libbitmaps*.a which are necessary for the respective target? |
| 02:31:17 | amiconn | I.e. don't build lib*bitmapsremote*.a for targets without lcd remote, and build none of these for charcell lcd? |
| 02:31:39 | linuxstb | Yes - I just need to find the correct "ifdef" to use in the Makefile. |
| 02:32:18 | linuxstb | If you look for the definitions of BITMAPLIBS and LINKBITMAPS in apps/Makefile and apps/plugins/Makefile, you just need to modify them. |
| 02:32:28 | linuxstb | I wasn't sure if the config.h variables were accessible in a Makefile. |
| 02:32:48 | amiconn | I don't think so. Perhaps Bagder has an idea |
| 02:33:39 | linuxstb | But it didn't seem that important - building the empty libs takes no time at all. |
| 02:33:57 | laniik | whats the current best way to fix this compile problem? patching gcc? |
| 02:34:03 | amiconn | Don't say *no* time. Cygwin is slow... |
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| 02:34:48 | linuxstb | OK, I'll have a quick look now. |
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| 02:34:58 | linuxstb | I've got an idea... |
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| 02:37:51 | infamis | I was wrong...7 seconds for normal iaudio x5 startup as opposed to my original "seems like 2-3"...for those who care... |
| 02:39:21 | infamis | ...guess that means no one...hahaa |
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| 02:41:59 | Ayn | playing around with rockbox for the x5 infamis? |
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| 02:43:00 | infamis | hopefully once someone writes some code...lol |
| 02:43:31 | infamis | I was just talkin' about the normal cowon fw |
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| 02:47:24 | Ayn | ah :) |
| 02:47:30 | Ayn | yeah it takes quite a good while |
| 02:48:02 | Ayn | did you play around with the simulator yet? |
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| 02:48:43 | Ayn | just trying to get started here, bit confused so far :) |
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| 02:54:12 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 02:56:51 | linuxstb | amiconn: Fix committed. |
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| 03:36:56 | Membrillo | what do people have to say about this? (in reference to the H3xx screen and the 24 bit bmp patch) |
| 03:37:05 | Membrillo | "Isn't the screen only 18 bits therefore making 24 bit bmps overkill?" |
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| 03:46:40 | BHSPitLappy | just wondering, what's this battery stuff in my FAT root now? |
| 03:46:53 | BHSPitLappy | battery.dummy, battery.log? |
| 03:48:37 | Membrillo | battery stastics |
| 03:48:42 | Membrillo | statistics* |
| 03:48:50 | Membrillo | thats what .log is anyway |
| 03:49:03 | BHSPitLappy | why does it need to write stuff? |
| 03:49:11 | Membrillo | open it in a text editor |
| 03:49:21 | Membrillo | it gives you battery inf |
| 03:49:22 | BHSPitLappy | I did. |
| 03:49:34 | BHSPitLappy | just says 0 because rb can't measure the ipod's |
| 03:49:39 | Membrillo | i dunno why though. it used to create them for me then it randomly stopped |
| 03:49:47 | Membrillo | ah ok |
| 03:49:59 | BHSPitLappy | well, my nano is flash, so I don't take kindly to unnecessary writes :P |
| 03:50:30 | Membrillo | haha, ah of course |
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| 04:03:10 | Jungti1234 | :D |
| 04:03:10 | Jungti1234 | http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox |
| 04:05:15 | BHSPitLappy | uhh |
| 04:05:20 | BHSPitLappy | %^)&$%P{+)*(*{(P? |
| 04:05:27 | BHSPitLappy | hahaha |
| 04:05:53 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 04:06:00 | BHSPitLappy | <incomprehensible symbols>2002<more characters>Archos<Even More>DAP |
| 04:06:15 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
| 04:06:33 | Jungti1234 | Rockbox<incomprehensible symbols>GPL<more characters> |
| 04:06:56 | Jungti1234 | You can see "Rockbox : Open Source Jukebox Firmware". |
| 04:07:14 | BHSPitLappy | mmmhmm |
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| 04:13:51 | Jungti1234 | ah........ |
| 04:20:58 | Jungti1234 | I have a dull time. |
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| 04:37:47 | BHSPitMonkey | sorry. |
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| 04:53:59 | JdGordon | has any1 got 3 monitors on 1 comp with xp? |
| 04:54:35 | JdGordon | the card with the 3rd screen is enabled and shown in device manager, but i cant get windows to use the 3rd screen :'( |
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| 04:58:06 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
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| 05:03:34 | lostlogic | Everyone listening: cast your vote, should lostlogic buy an IPV30g black? |
| 05:03:59 | ashridah | buy 50 |
| 05:04:00 | ashridah | ! |
| 05:04:01 | ashridah | what are they? :) |
| 05:04:09 | lostlogic | ipod video 30 gig black |
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| 05:06:27 | Jungti1234 | buy |
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| 05:08:07 | ashridah | i don't like ipods much, so you're getting a 'no' vote from me then |
| 05:08:31 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 05:08:36 | Jungti1234 | I like ipod |
| 05:09:20 | Jungti1234 | Insincere answer of iriver! |
| 05:09:22 | BHSPitMonkey | I love lamp |
| 05:09:25 | BHSPitMonkey | I love...carpet |
| 05:09:53 | Jungti1234 | What do you do? :) |
| 05:10:18 | ashridah | i need my players to support ogg, and i prefer them to have reasonable quality output |
| 05:10:48 | lostlogic | ashridah: yeah, I'm kinda pensively waiting to see if ipv audio quality is better |
| 05:10:54 | lostlogic | but iRiver has a lot of background hiss |
| 05:11:05 | BHSPitMonkey | heard a lot of stuff about the 5G's ruining headphones. |
| 05:11:10 | BHSPitMonkey | look into that. |
| 05:11:50 | lostlogic | how would they do that? using too high of a voltage out? |
| 05:15:17 | ashridah | more likely to be crappy signals than voltage |
| 05:15:40 | ashridah | after all, a straight dc voltage just treats a pair of earphones as a short |
| 05:16:12 | BHSPitLappy | the pattern is in just the right earphone. |
| 05:17:16 | ashridah | sounds like something very high frequency is leaking into that channel |
| 05:18:05 | BHSPitLappy | oh, that's clever... |
| 05:18:24 | BHSPitLappy | someone figured out away the inability to have images in AIM profiles... |
| 05:18:29 | BHSPitLappy | sort of... |
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| 05:35:22 | dpassen1 | example? |
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| 08:02:25 | Bger | morning :) |
| 08:02:49 | BHSPitLappy | evening |
| 08:04:04 | * | Bger is pleased to read "IDE-3 is SMART capabe, status: BAD", hard disk on 1500h power on hours ... |
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| 08:05:04 | Bger | Power_Cycle_Count : 23, Spin_Retry_Count: VALUE: 094 worst: 094 threshold 097 ... FAILING_NOW |
| 08:05:23 | Bger | anyone with advise ? should i take this into account ? |
| 08:05:29 | Bger | advice |
| 08:06:30 | ashridah | replace it |
| 08:06:39 | Bger | but the disk is 2 months old ... |
| 08:07:15 | Bger | this is the first time i see bad smart status |
| 08:07:22 | ashridah | so replace it under warranty |
| 08:07:29 | Bger | yep, i'll do it |
| 08:08:01 | Bger | the most frightening is "Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA" |
| 08:08:28 | ashridah | some manufacturers have utilities that can read the logs built into the drive, might have more info |
| 08:08:41 | Bger | the disk is seagate |
| 08:08:44 | ashridah | of course, it's debatable whether that'd mean anything to you |
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| 08:11:22 | Bger | haha "Act accordingly. Chances |
| 08:11:24 | Bger | that the drivce is wrong about itself are practically zero." |
| 08:11:46 | Bger | regarding the same problem with spin_retry_count |
| 08:12:08 | Bger | wow, even the disk is probably the same (200GB seagate) |
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| 08:15:21 | Bger | btw, what are the chances of this being caused by not enough powerfull PSU? (and being a false alarm) |
| 08:15:29 | Bger | -l |
| 08:16:04 | ashridah | it's possible. |
| 08:16:19 | ashridah | some drives have the ability to be spun up in sequence. |
| 08:16:27 | Bger | but 350W Fortron ... |
| 08:17:14 | ashridah | the big problems come in when you first power on the system in most cases, spinning up drives takes the most current draw |
| 08:17:17 | Bger | on machine with radeon 9200, 3 optical devices, Sempron 2500+ (64bit) |
| 08:17:56 | Bger | and one hard disk |
| 08:18:29 | ashridah | it's been a while since i've looked into the power requirements. |
| 08:18:49 | ashridah | i'm inclined to just throw a decent semi-expensive power supply at a system on principle, just to avoid issues with crappy voltage later on |
| 08:19:04 | Bger | probably, but this videocard is for example with passive cooling |
| 08:19:21 | merbanan | 300W and 4 relativly new driver with a athlon cpu was just over the power reqs for me |
| 08:19:44 | Bger | 300 real watts or chinese watts ? |
| 08:20:04 | ashridah | i prefer to give myself at least 50% leeway |
| 08:20:14 | ashridah | as i say, spinup draw can be fairly high |
| 08:21:02 | merbanan | well it was rated to 300w, I had an older harddrive before, after a few attempts I got the machive to start |
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| 08:21:10 | Bger | hm, in my case it could depend also on whether there are cds/dvds in the optical drives |
| 08:21:29 | merbanan | but the power source made some strange sounds in the process |
| 08:21:38 | Bger | ah |
| 08:22:45 | Bger | maybe i should take the drives off and read what's written for the current on them |
| 08:22:46 | merbanan | I clearly heard the fan spped drop when the voltage dropped due to powerdrain |
| 08:22:52 | amiconn | Bger: We once had a branded U320 SCSI server harddrive failing after ~300 power-on hours |
| 08:23:14 | Bger | amiconn ? really ... |
| 08:23:24 | amiconn | yes |
| 08:23:43 | amiconn | That's less than two weeks in a server |
| 08:23:45 | Bger | how did it fail ? i mean ... it couldn't spin up or ... |
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| 08:24:53 | Bger | i'm asking because all other smart params seems OK |
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| 08:25:20 | amiconn | It didn't spin anymore, but I don't know whether thiis was the cause for the failure. |
| 08:26:09 | Bger | huh |
| 08:26:11 | amiconn | We didn't loose any data, we use RAID1 and RAID5 |
| 08:26:33 | merbanan | Bger: I had a dvdrom that would reboot the machine if I tried to load media to it also |
| 08:27:00 | merbanan | but it was most likely some short circuit in the dvd drive |
| 08:27:46 | Bger | hms, btw, there is a comp. problem (or windows drivers problem) between NForce3 & some plextor dvd-rom drives.. |
| 08:27:55 | B4gder | now why do people change the wiki to say iRiver all the time? |
| 08:27:55 | Bger | comp = compatibility |
| 08:27:59 | Slasheri | i found out that 550W supply was not enough to keep all 8 ide-drives spinning on my dual xeon server.. I just put an old AT supply for three drives to balance the load because drives started to power cycle as the temperature went down a few degrees. |
| 08:28:16 | ashridah | B4gder: from what? |
| 08:28:18 | B4gder | from iriver |
| 08:28:31 | B4gder | I guess its due to how the used to spell it |
| 08:28:39 | Bger | B4gder in fact i realised that it's not very clear ... |
| 08:29:09 | Bger | the new logo is iriver, but i have it written as "iRiver" on the box of my h300 |
| 08:31:27 | Bger | Slasheri but that are 2 CPUs, 8 drives ... :) |
| 08:32:25 | Slasheri | Bger: true, but still weird.. the problems only began after the temperature dropped little. Maybe the drives need more power to sping in lower temperature conditions |
| 08:32:49 | Slasheri | -g |
| 08:33:34 | * | Bger is downloading SEA_TOOLS |
| 08:34:41 | * | amiconn doesn't understand Linus' last wiki change |
| 08:35:44 | amiconn | I don't think this pb is solved... |
| 08:36:16 | Slasheri | hmm, interesting |
| 08:36:35 | Slasheri | i haven't tried that in a long time |
| 08:38:21 | Slasheri | hmm.. maybe it would good to finish now the iriver flashing support and after that the tagcache.. |
| 08:42:54 | JdGordon | iriver flashing support? as in we dont have to go into iriv fw to upgrade the bootloadeR? |
| 08:43:58 | Slasheri | yes, because there wouldn't be iriver fw at all if user wants to put rockbox in flash.. :) |
| 08:43:59 | Bger | JdGordon i think it also removes the original fw |
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| 08:44:27 | Slasheri | i haven't thought about updating only the bootloader with iriver fw, but that should be possible too.. |
| 08:44:46 | JdGordon | hmm.... that doesnt sound very safe.... i like knowing i can always go back to iriv is rb fucks up... |
| 08:45:00 | Slasheri | but maybe not so useful to implement as long as there is the iriver fw |
| 08:45:27 | Bger | Slasheri, better only this for h300 atm ... (as rb doesn't yet support video & osb host) |
| 08:45:47 | Slasheri | rb has always the bootloader which should work.. but of course user can choose if he wants to flash his iriver |
| 08:46:37 | Bger | Slasheri ah, u mean it could load the original FW from the disk |
| 08:46:49 | Slasheri | Bger: hehe, true. i can only make it to work with h100 (h120/140) as i don't have other units |
| 08:47:10 | Bger | ah, yes |
| 08:47:15 | Membrillo | what benefits are theyre from removing the original FW? |
| 08:47:16 | B4gder | what, only _one_ target? ;-) |
| 08:47:18 | Slasheri | Bger: not at the moment but that could be possible |
| 08:47:42 | Slasheri | Membrillo: faster boot and rockbox logo shows up immediately ;) |
| 08:48:08 | Jungti1234 | hello? |
| 08:48:13 | Membrillo | ok fair enough |
| 08:48:14 | Bger | wow, immediately |
| 08:48:47 | Bger | very good progress:) 30 sec or more (orig fw) -> 7 secs (rb currently) -> 2-3 sec ? |
| 08:48:49 | Membrillo | what about bootloader USB mode and turning off if hold switch is on? where would that be implemented? |
| 08:48:56 | JdGordon | boot dropped from 45s+ to 8s... im not that impatiant that i want to risk a brick so ill keep the orig on... |
| 08:49:11 | Slasheri | and some little things also like the ability to use the whole eeprom to store some state variables |
| 08:49:27 | Slasheri | Bger: not that much, about 2-3s |
| 08:49:44 | Slasheri | (that would be the drop in boot time) |
| 08:49:58 | Bger | ah, okay :) |
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| 08:52:34 | Bger | btw, there were problems with connecting to freenode about an hour ago... |
| 08:53:03 | Bger | -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server 140.211.166.4 [refnum 0] |
| 08:53:03 | Bger | -:- Connection closed from 140.211.166.4: Success |
| 08:55:10 | Membrillo | i got that too |
| 08:55:22 | Membrillo | "connection refused" here |
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| 08:55:32 | Bger | i tried different servers without success |
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| 08:57:39 | Bger | morning, LinusN |
| 08:57:47 | LinusN | morning |
| 08:58:13 | BHSPitLappy | morning mr. torvalds |
| 08:58:20 | LinusN | :-) |
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| 08:58:54 | LinusN | i get a lot of questions, "are you *that* linus?" |
| 08:59:17 | LinusN | and i'm not even from finland |
| 08:59:32 | B4gder | you look a bit finnish on IRC ;-P |
| 08:59:43 | LinusN | lol |
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| 09:00:10 | midkay | liiinus :) |
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| 09:01:42 | midkay | *crickets chirping* |
| 09:01:44 | B4gder | http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn-committers/trunk/sounds/pronunciation/index.html |
| 09:01:47 | B4gder | try the last one |
| 09:02:04 | B4gder | :-) |
| 09:02:54 | B4gder | we should have a page like that! |
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| 09:04:01 | needleboy | good morning people |
| 09:04:13 | needleboy | anyone aware of a problem in the latest bleeding edge source? |
| 09:04:25 | needleboy | while compiling clean, without any patches, i get this: |
| 09:04:26 | B4gder | "a" problem? |
| 09:04:28 | needleboy | AR+RANLIB /home/guest/rockbox-bleeding/build/librockbox.a |
| 09:04:28 | needleboy | MAKE in bitmaps/mono |
| 09:04:28 | needleboy | Makefile:25: /home/guest/rockbox-bleeding/tools/makebmp.inc: No such file or dir |
| 09:04:28 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK needleboy |
| 09:04:28 | needleboy | ectory |
| 09:04:28 | needleboy | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/guest/rockbox-bleeding/tools/makebmp. |
| 09:04:28 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 09:04:28 | needleboy | inc'. Stop. |
| 09:04:30 | needleboy | make[1]: *** [/home/guest/rockbox-bleeding/build/libbitmapsmono.a] Error 2 |
| 09:04:33 | needleboy | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 09:04:34 | B4gder | rerun configure |
| 09:04:53 | amiconn | morning LinusN |
| 09:04:55 | needleboy | what do you mean? |
| 09:05:06 | amiconn | LinusN: Did you fix that .cfg problem??? |
| 09:05:07 | B4gder | needleboy: did you rerun configure? |
| 09:05:09 | Bger | B4gder hahaha |
| 09:05:21 | needleboy | configure where? |
| 09:05:33 | Bger | there's even how do you pronounce in swedish :P |
| 09:05:46 | Bger | with a swedish accent, even |
| 09:05:56 | B4gder | needleboy: there's a tool/configure script you know? |
| 09:06:01 | LinusN | amiconn: is there a .cfg problem? |
| 09:06:24 | B4gder | Bger: yeah, well that is pretty much faked but lots of fun nonetheless |
| 09:07:11 | amiconn | LinusN: The one you removed from the wiki status page... |
| 09:07:11 | Bger | well, our "rockbox" with sweddish accent won't be faked :P |
| 09:07:19 | Bger | swedish |
| 09:07:19 | B4gder | :-) |
| 09:07:39 | Bger | it can even have 3 versions :P |
| 09:07:41 | LinusN | amiconn: that was fixed by removing the output of the wps text on the lcd (buffer overflow) |
| 09:07:51 | LinusN | when loading the wps |
| 09:07:55 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:07:55 | * | amiconn goes testing |
| 09:08:16 | LinusN | or were there more than one problem? |
| 09:09:43 | amiconn | Loading .cfg files still stops playback, i.e. the workaround is still in place |
| 09:10:09 | needleboy | B4gder: i'm usually running RBCONF, is there a difference? they look the same... |
| 09:10:18 | LinusN | amiconn: oh, maybe i was wrong then |
| 09:10:49 | B4gder | needleboy: stop using rbconf, start using the real and actual configure. rbconf is just hiding whats' really going on |
| 09:10:58 | B4gder | imho |
| 09:11:01 | LinusN | imho too |
| 09:11:12 | amiconn | 3rd |
| 09:11:14 | needleboy | same thing man |
| 09:11:28 | B4gder | needleboy: yes, although you didn't understand what I was saying |
| 09:11:35 | B4gder | because you use that... thing |
| 09:11:52 | B4gder | still |
| 09:11:55 | B4gder | rerun that |
| 09:12:12 | needleboy | what do you mean? run it twice??? |
| 09:12:12 | amiconn | LinusN: Ah yes, .wps loading was fixed by not displaying it. |
| 09:12:15 | needleboy | i did run it |
| 09:12:26 | LinusN | amiconn: me is silly |
| 09:12:30 | B4gder | needleboy: then do make clean and make again |
| 09:12:35 | needleboy | i did |
| 09:12:44 | B4gder | then you messed up your build |
| 09:13:11 | amiconn | ...but I still don't know why this caused a buffer overflow. |
| 09:13:26 | needleboy | it's a clean source |
| 09:13:37 | needleboy | i deleted everything |
| 09:13:37 | B4gder | needleboy: using cvs? |
| 09:13:41 | needleboy | yes |
| 09:13:42 | amiconn | Usually it sooner or later pays off to investigate the real cause of a bug instead of just working around it |
| 09:13:45 | needleboy | the latest source |
| 09:13:49 | needleboy | not CVS |
| 09:13:51 | needleboy | from the website |
| 09:14:09 | B4gder | use CVS instead |
| 09:14:15 | B4gder | it'll save you grief |
| 09:14:29 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 09:14:30 | B4gder | I just noticed all files aren't in the tarbvall |
| 09:15:06 | B4gder | fixed now |
| 09:15:36 | B4gder | (for tomorrow's source package) |
| 09:16:00 | * | amiconn suspects the bitmap stuff wasn't added to FILES |
| 09:16:36 | B4gder | it was, just a tiny little piece was missing |
| 09:16:47 | B4gder | but vital |
| 09:17:15 | BHSPitLappy | hey B4gder ... |
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| 09:17:21 | BHSPitLappy | are you the same as bagder? |
| 09:17:27 | B4gder | yeps |
| 09:17:30 | BHSPitLappy | ah.. |
| 09:17:34 | B4gder | just a second client |
| 09:17:46 | BHSPitLappy | an obviously more leet client |
| 09:18:32 | B4gder | I feel very "leet" ;-) |
| 09:18:42 | LinusN | l33t |
| 09:18:43 | BHSPitLappy | oh and you are. |
| 09:19:40 | needleboy | B4gder, so there were missing files? |
| 09:19:50 | B4gder | tools/makebmp.inc is missing |
| 09:19:57 | needleboy | that's what it told me |
| 09:20:14 | needleboy | use the latest CVS or the source on the site is updated? |
| 09:20:31 | B4gder | the daily source is updated in... 19 hours |
| 09:20:37 | needleboy | not daily |
| 09:20:39 | needleboy | bleeding edge |
| 09:20:44 | B4gder | right |
| 09:20:49 | B4gder | that'll be available soonish |
| 09:20:53 | needleboy | cool |
| 09:20:57 | B4gder | forgot we had that |
| 09:20:58 | needleboy | thanks for the help man |
| 09:21:02 | needleboy | lol |
| 09:21:11 | B4gder | now, who made that available? ;-) |
| 09:21:16 | BHSPitLappy | so B4gder ... I found out linux's problem with rb12 was "the bitmap data is stored in bytes instead of words" |
| 09:21:25 | BHSPitLappy | well |
| 09:21:37 | BHSPitLappy | the actual problem is implementing the format |
| 09:21:42 | BHSPitLappy | so |
| 09:21:44 | * | BHSPitLappy shuts up |
| 09:21:56 | B4gder | well, they do have the same kind of access to the LCD as we do |
| 09:22:14 | preglow | what the hell is rbconf? |
| 09:22:37 | needleboy | that's what your documentation says to use |
| 09:22:40 | B4gder | preglow: tools/configure according to the devkit "handy" alias |
| 09:22:41 | LinusN | a script in the devkit that calls tools/configure |
| 09:22:46 | amiconn | B4gder: Yes, but the RB12 format (vertical pixel blocking) is sub-optimal for the iPod LCDs |
| 09:22:52 | Jungti1234 | rbconf |
| 09:23:01 | LinusN | needleboy: the devkit is not a rockbox thing |
| 09:23:02 | B4gder | amiconn: doesn't that depend on what ipod we're talking about? |
| 09:23:04 | preglow | it just calls configure? nothing else? |
| 09:23:10 | B4gder | preglow: exactly |
| 09:23:13 | needleboy | i didn't say it was |
| 09:23:13 | preglow | hahaha |
| 09:23:21 | preglow | needleboy: then don't call it our documentation |
| 09:23:34 | needleboy | it is YOUR documentation |
| 09:23:40 | needleboy | hold on i'll show you |
| 09:23:40 | B4gder | where? |
| 09:23:45 | preglow | does _our_ documentation say to use rbconf? |
| 09:23:45 | preglow | cool |
| 09:24:06 | Bger | y34h, 1337 |
| 09:24:08 | amiconn | B4gder: No. Afaik the 4-greyscale iPod LCD does horizontal pixel blocking, and for 16bit this will probably be better as well |
| 09:24:12 | needleboy | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling#Configuring_Build |
| 09:24:38 | LinusN | figures |
| 09:24:41 | amiconn | Will I ever find enough time to test/implement all those rockbox ideas? :( |
| 09:24:46 | B4gder | silly, me edit |
| 09:25:08 | preglow | amiconn: start writing them down in the wiki |
| 09:25:14 | preglow | perhaps someone will do some of them |
| 09:25:49 | Bger | amiconn yep, this is a good idea |
| 09:29:35 | * | B4gder modified that wiki page |
| 09:30:42 | B4gder | needleboy: using CVS would be _so_ much easier for you |
| 09:32:00 | needleboy | trying it out just now |
| 09:32:22 | needleboy | though... i don't see why downloading from a web page can be harder than anything else |
| 09:32:54 | B4gder | that's because you never tried doing it with cvs |
| 09:33:27 | needleboy | i'll try |
| 09:33:34 | needleboy | so the CVS has the missing file? |
| 09:33:41 | B4gder | CVS has all the files |
| 09:33:47 | Bger | that are in cvs :) |
| 09:33:54 | B4gder | that's the actual source of the files for Rockbox |
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| 09:34:42 | needleboy | cool. ok, it is nice :)) |
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| 09:40:11 | * | Bger looks how many patchs makes gentoo against gcc and understands why this version cannot make working code for rockbox... |
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| 09:47:02 | JdGordon | what ide do the windows ppl here use for rb? vis studio is getting on my nerves |
| 09:47:27 | Bger | JdGordon vim, emacs, kate ... :) |
| 09:47:42 | JdGordon | windows... ide..... |
| 09:47:46 | Bger | ide ... |
| 09:47:50 | Bger | alse conTEXT |
| 09:47:56 | Bger | that is, conTEXT on windows |
| 09:48:01 | Bger | but this is not an ide |
| 09:48:02 | JdGordon | :p |
| 09:48:29 | B4gder | IDE for rockbox simply means running make from within the editor, right? |
| 09:48:42 | Bger | http://www.context.cx |
| 09:49:44 | preglow | i use vim |
| 09:49:48 | preglow | and everyone else should too |
| 09:49:59 | Bger | preglow tell this to B4gder |
| 09:50:06 | preglow | bagder is a lost cause |
| 09:50:09 | * | B4gder rolls up his sleaves |
| 09:50:10 | Bger | ;) |
| 09:50:24 | preglow | emacs has pushed him to the very limits of insanity |
| 09:50:37 | B4gder | nono, the voices in my head ARE real! |
| 09:50:41 | Bger | :) |
| 09:50:46 | preglow | stallman talks to him |
| 09:51:18 | Bger | but really, isn't emacs more "IDE" than vim |
| 09:51:27 | preglow | emacs is more "everything" than vim |
| 09:51:32 | preglow | which is what i hate about it |
| 09:51:40 | B4gder | emacs can run make, gdb etc fine from within |
| 09:51:59 | B4gder | the gdb mode is actually quite nice |
| 09:52:12 | * | Bger should try it *one* day ... |
| 09:52:16 | preglow | emacs also uses lisp extensively |
| 09:52:24 | preglow | a fact which alone disqualifies it from use |
| 09:52:32 | Bger | hahaha |
| 09:52:55 | B4gder | what's the vim programming language called? |
| 09:53:08 | preglow | it has one? :) |
| 09:53:18 | B4gder | they write the lot in plain C? |
| 09:53:23 | preglow | afaik |
| 09:53:26 | B4gder | gosh |
| 09:53:28 | Bger | preglow it seems that the voices in your head are by Bram Moolenaar |
| 09:53:40 | preglow | no, my voice is good old satan |
| 09:53:53 | B4gder | not even I did everything in C when we wrote our text editor on Amiga |
| 09:53:59 | Bger | ah, those satan ... |
| 09:54:19 | preglow | well, i do believe it's all c |
| 09:54:22 | preglow | but i'm by no means sure |
| 09:54:33 | preglow | at least it explains why it's zippy like hell when emacs is not :> |
| 09:54:45 | B4gder | when is emacs not "zippy" ? |
| 09:54:56 | B4gder | when using your PC from '88 ? |
| 09:55:02 | preglow | haha, when it runs huge lisp extensions :-) |
| 09:55:13 | B4gder | those extensions vim don't even has? |
| 09:55:26 | preglow | hey, i didn't say i was making a _fair_ comparison |
| 09:55:31 | B4gder | :-) |
| 09:55:45 | preglow | i'm beyond fair criticism, i'm just out to bash it however i can |
| 09:56:00 | preglow | the good thing about irrational hate is that this doesn't bother me |
| 09:57:05 | Bger | :P |
| 09:57:45 | JdGordon | any aussie opeth fans here? |
| 09:58:12 | preglow | haha |
| 09:58:23 | preglow | i bet a norwegian one wont qualify? |
| 09:58:41 | JdGordon | only if your planning on going to the aus concert :p |
| 09:58:45 | preglow | hehe |
| 09:59:19 | Bger | heh;) |
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| 10:02:14 | Bger | ashridah ? |
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| 10:15:51 | Bger | so, there's no something like "queue_detach" ? |
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| 10:22:46 | Bger | then what should happen if i have a queue in a plugin; the plugin exits, other one loads and something (for example the usb thread) calls queue broadcast? |
| 10:22:56 | Lost-ash | B4gder: vim does have a scripting language |
| 10:23:03 | Bger | that is, queue_broadcast() |
| 10:23:06 | Lost-ash | all the syntax processing, external tool support, internationalisation stuff are done using simple functional scripting |
| 10:23:11 | B4gder | that's what I thought |
| 10:23:15 | Lost-ash | it's probably not the equivalent of a full lisp interpreter, mind you |
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| 10:23:41 | * | B4gder wrote his own interpreting language for his text editor once upon the time... :-) |
| 10:23:43 | Bger | B4gder ? |
| 10:24:15 | B4gder | Bger: I have no idea |
| 10:24:17 | Bger | am i right that it'll write somewhere in the new plugin's memory ? |
| 10:24:43 | Bger | looking at kernel.c, line 143 |
| 10:25:28 | preglow | as long as it isn't lisp |
| 10:25:32 | preglow | god, how i hate that language |
| 10:27:21 | Lost-ash | i'd probably just embed lua or something |
| 10:27:53 | B4gder | I'm not too fond of lisp either |
| 10:28:01 | Bger | amiconn? LinusN ? |
| 10:28:29 | preglow | embed perl! |
| 10:28:59 | Bger | rockperl ? :) |
| 10:29:24 | B4gder | http://www.contactor.se/~dast/fpl-old/ |
| 10:29:26 | B4gder | ;-) |
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| 10:31:08 | Jungti1234 | poor iriver |
| 10:31:58 | Lost-ash | why poor? |
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| 10:32:42 | Jungti1234 | They are poor financially. |
| 10:32:54 | B4gder | no wonder |
| 10:33:03 | B4gder | since they gave up all cool models |
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| 10:33:11 | Bger | yep :) |
| 10:33:24 | Jungti1234 | We decided to provoke iriver. |
| 10:33:28 | preglow | yeah, they lost me on that |
| 10:33:42 | preglow | i liker h1x0 very good, h3x0 somewhat, and since then they've just lost me |
| 10:34:04 | B4gder | amen |
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| 10:34:08 | Jungti1234 | hahahaha |
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| 10:40:09 | JdGordon | hey, ok, whats the easiest way (code wise) for a plugin to read a setting file? or is it just rb->read_line(); rb->settings_parseline(); until EOF? |
| 10:44:31 | Jungti1234 | Can install Windows to H300? |
| 10:44:35 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 10:44:50 | Bger | Jungti1234 you can try :) |
| 10:45:07 | Jungti1234 | :D |
| 10:45:28 | cismo | windows 3.1 |
| 10:46:14 | Jungti1234 | Does 3.1 work really? |
| 10:46:40 | Jungti1234 | I like rockbox. :) |
| 10:46:53 | Jungti1234 | More than windows |
| 10:49:12 | Bger | amiconn ? |
| 10:50:29 | Bger | linuxstb_ ? |
| 10:50:41 | Bger | preglow ? :) |
| 10:52:34 | preglow | what+ |
| 10:52:42 | Bger | do u have a little time atm ? |
| 10:52:45 | preglow | nope |
| 10:52:48 | Bger | k :( |
| 10:55:49 | JdGordon | is BYTE defined in rb? |
| 10:56:01 | Bger | use char |
| 10:56:23 | Bger | it's "defined" everywhere |
| 10:56:30 | JdGordon | right |
| 10:57:18 | Bger | more precisely signed char or unsigned char |
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| 11:04:00 | JdGordon | there isnt an xml parser lib for rb is there??? that would make my life a tad easier :p |
| 11:05:03 | Bger | JdGordon nope! |
| 11:07:03 | amiconn | B4gder: What editor for AmigaOS did you write? |
| 11:07:09 | * | amiconn thinks he missed something |
| 11:07:32 | Bger | amiconn while here could you look at this |
| 11:07:40 | amiconn | Bger: It seems there function to unregister queues has not been written |
| 11:07:46 | amiconn | s/there/the/ |
| 11:07:51 | Bger | so ? |
| 11:07:57 | Bger | i think it should be written |
| 11:08:00 | amiconn | You would have to write it |
| 11:08:02 | B4gder | amiconn: FrexxEd, not very widely used |
| 11:08:44 | amiconn | Bger: It has not been written yet b/c it wasn't necessary. |
| 11:09:11 | Bger | aha, because there wasn't event queue that "disappears" runtime |
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| 11:09:42 | amiconn | Same situation as it was for threads. The function to destroy threads was added by [IDC]Dragon for his alpine_cdc plugin |
| 11:09:55 | Bger | ah, yes :) |
| 11:10:14 | Bger | i thought about similar way to do it |
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| 11:50:55 | JdGordon | is the 2nd parameter of plugin_start 0 when its called form the plugin menu? |
| 11:51:20 | Bger | probably null |
| 11:51:51 | JdGordon | close enough :p |
| 11:53:41 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: What are you writing? |
| 11:53:49 | JdGordon | a timetable viewer |
| 11:54:23 | linuxstb_ | Why not just store it as a text file? |
| 11:54:24 | JdGordon | .. seen as uni is approaching and i keep loosing the printed timetable |
| 11:54:29 | JdGordon | coz that sux :D |
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| 11:58:06 | JdGordon | its also easier to see if i have a class now if the grid on the tt is grey, instead of finding the right line in a text file with tiny font |
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| 12:02:32 | JdGordon | yippee.. the sim crashed while reading a file... |
| 12:03:27 | JdGordon | how the heck do i debug? |
| 12:03:31 | LinusN | gdb |
| 12:03:56 | JdGordon | ... im on windows with the devkit |
| 12:03:57 | Bger | under cygwin ? :) |
| 12:04:04 | Bger | JdGordon then ... |
| 12:04:08 | Bger | get cygwin |
| 12:06:47 | LinusN | JdGordon: for some reason, gdb was left out in the devkit |
| 12:06:47 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: The obvious problems will be 1) Not initialising the "rb" pointer, or 2) passing an invalid pointer or file handle to the rb->read() function. |
| 12:07:00 | * | Bger wonders how could the devkit being called devkit and doesn't have a debugger |
| 12:07:01 | linuxstb_ | You could also try DEBUGF - you can use it like printf() |
| 12:07:51 | JdGordon | hmm.. ill try DEBUGF |
| 12:08:02 | JdGordon | no, all the obvious stuff is fine.. |
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| 12:12:53 | JdGordon | rb->strcmp seems to be the culprate?? |
| 12:13:13 | Bger | huh |
| 12:13:18 | Bger | are the strings initialized ? |
| 12:13:25 | JdGordon | yup |
| 12:13:32 | Bger | and do they end with \0 ? |
| 12:13:56 | JdGordon | settings_parseline \0's the string doesnt it? |
| 12:14:05 | Bger | i don't know |
| 12:16:14 | JdGordon | ah ok... |
| 12:16:43 | JdGordon | is there any other way of reading settings files (without parsing it manually) other than settings_parseline? |
| 12:17:53 | Bger | JdGordon why don't look at how is settings_parseline used ? |
| 12:18:06 | JdGordon | i am.. i dont like it :p |
| 12:18:16 | JdGordon | i got a way around the problem... all good again :D |
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| 12:20:28 | Bger | JdGordon see apps/settings.c starting from line 1200 |
| 12:20:43 | Bger | ah, ok |
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| 12:21:14 | Nuxator | hi all |
| 12:21:43 | Nuxator | LinusN are you here? |
| 12:21:58 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:22:06 | Nuxator | just want to report good news |
| 12:22:15 | Nuxator | i had usb disconnect problem |
| 12:22:33 | Nuxator | but with latest build/bootloader i don't have this problem any more |
| 12:24:13 | Nuxator | i don't have the problem in rockbox itself but i still can't use bootlader usb mode because it won't detect usb unplug |
| 12:25:18 | Nuxator | i have a question: what is the limit in number of file in a directory |
| 12:25:27 | preglow | check your settings |
| 12:25:31 | preglow | you can decide that number yourself |
| 12:25:48 | LinusN | Nuxator: you mean the FAT32 limit? |
| 12:25:58 | Nuxator | ha ok because i had a dir buffer is full |
| 12:26:21 | preglow | general settings > system settings > limits |
| 12:26:24 | Nuxator | stupid me |
| 12:26:27 | preglow | default is 200 |
| 12:26:31 | Nuxator | i fiund the limit settings |
| 12:26:32 | preglow | or no, more, i think |
| 12:26:45 | Nuxator | it's set to 400 and i have 440 files in this dir |
| 12:26:50 | preglow | mine is at 200 |
| 12:27:14 | preglow | but then again, i also want to lower my max playlist size to lower than the minimum :> |
| 12:27:38 | preglow | how much size does the playlist buffer take? |
| 12:27:45 | preglow | s/size/space/ |
| 12:28:41 | Nuxator | and anotehr question : what is the limit of disk cache? |
| 12:29:14 | preglow | hmm |
| 12:29:30 | B4gder | preglow: sizeof(int) * max entries |
| 12:29:33 | preglow | i don't even know if it has such a limit |
| 12:29:55 | preglow | B4gder: oh, think i'll survive that, then |
| 12:30:21 | Nuxator | because i have 6700 files and dir cache isn't working |
| 12:30:38 | preglow | what does dircache debug say? |
| 12:30:53 | Nuxator | i can't even go into rockbox |
| 12:30:58 | Nuxator | i had to erase settings |
| 12:33:10 | Slasheri | then you probably have a very long file name somewhere.. there can be internal buffer overflow somewhere in the rockbox code |
| 12:33:35 | Nuxator | it shows scanning disk |
| 12:33:49 | Slasheri | and then tilts? |
| 12:33:57 | Nuxator | after some time the screen is empty |
| 12:34:09 | Nuxator | and if i press play/on the device reboots |
| 12:34:23 | Slasheri | this is a known problem caused probably by the unicode patch |
| 12:34:51 | Slasheri | we should try to find and fix that overflow.. |
| 12:35:25 | Nuxator | ha yes i have accent in file names (french) and some japanese/korean too |
| 12:36:44 | Nuxator | ok many thaks for your reply |
| 12:38:19 | preglow | Slasheri: the MAX_PATH unicode problem hasn't been fixed y et? |
| 12:38:40 | Bger | hm, all codecs except faad doesn't recompile on a kernel.c change |
| 12:38:57 | Nuxator | and many thaks for rockbox on iriver. My h120 is a cool player with rockbox (iriver's firmware was soooo bad) |
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| 12:39:55 | Slasheri | preglow: i dont know, probably not.. |
| 12:42:14 | preglow | isn't the solution just to redefine max_path to be 255*3 ? |
| 12:42:28 | preglow | that is, after all, the new max byte count in file names |
| 12:42:53 | preglow | man, i love dircache |
| 12:42:54 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Any idea if it's possible to map IRAM to 0x0 and SDRAM close to that on the ipods? |
| 12:43:16 | preglow | linuxstb_: for what purpose? |
| 12:43:27 | Slasheri | preglow: still, the overflow issue has to be fixed.. |
| 12:43:35 | Slasheri | that is a clear bug |
| 12:43:41 | preglow | Slasheri: indeed |
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| 12:44:44 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I'm thinking we can have the FIQ handler in IRAM at the end of the exceptions table, and also put all the code close together. |
| 12:44:51 | linuxstb_ | (removing all long calls) |
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| 12:45:27 | linuxstb_ | We could also put the plugins and codecs at the start of SDRAM instead of the end. |
| 12:45:44 | preglow | removing all the long calls? |
| 12:45:51 | preglow | well, yeah, for our 32 meg targets |
| 12:45:58 | preglow | but with more ram than that, we're back to zero again |
| 12:46:04 | linuxstb_ | No, for all targets. |
| 12:46:12 | preglow | if we move codecs and plugins to start of sdram? |
| 12:46:15 | preglow | how do you propose we do that? |
| 12:46:22 | linuxstb_ | We just do it...? |
| 12:46:28 | preglow | the purpose of putting them at the end is that we have a fixed address |
| 12:46:37 | linuxstb_ | And the start is fixed as well. |
| 12:46:44 | preglow | the very start, yes :P |
| 12:47:09 | coob | why do you need a fixed address? |
| 12:47:13 | linuxstb_ | This would allow us to have a single ipod video build for both models as well. |
| 12:47:28 | preglow | coob: our plugins are simple static linked binary imagines |
| 12:47:30 | linuxstb_ | coob: Because the plugins are plain binary images - pre-linked to run from a fixed address. |
| 12:47:30 | preglow | images |
| 12:47:40 | coob | but arm is pic? |
| 12:47:52 | preglow | linuxstb_: well ok, but i have no idea whatsoever how to do this mapping |
| 12:48:03 | coob | all arm is pic sorry ( i think?) |
| 12:48:16 | preglow | coob: we have more targets than arm |
| 12:48:25 | preglow | the ipodlinux remapping code is Magic |
| 12:48:29 | coob | yeah, but none that matter :) |
| 12:48:34 | B4gder | haha |
| 12:48:47 | preglow | i want to fix the problem by using a proper plugin format |
| 12:48:57 | preglow | but that's not very popular with other people |
| 12:49:09 | coob | our ucdl lib for dynamic arm linking is the shit :D |
| 12:49:15 | preglow | ucdl? |
| 12:49:27 | coob | uclinux libdl |
| 12:49:52 | preglow | uses its own format? |
| 12:50:14 | coob | think so, i've not even read the code, josh_ coded it |
| 12:50:22 | JdGordon | hehe.. i can move a stupid little box around the screen and exit :D now i just gotta get it to show my damn text and im done |
| 12:50:38 | coob | preglow: its in our svn |
| 12:50:51 | coob | flood: This is a libdl-like library for uClinux. Read the header |
| 12:50:51 | coob | file to see the 4-function API. |
| 12:50:51 | coob | The only catch: uClinux uses BFLT binaries, which include no symbol |
| 12:50:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK coob |
| 12:50:51 | coob | table; as such, you have to make one yourself. |
| 12:51:01 | coob | mit license.. |
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| 12:51:34 | linuxstb_ | Are the binaries themselves pic? |
| 12:51:44 | coob | yes |
| 12:51:57 | preglow | so, it's based on pic code, not relocation? |
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| 12:52:22 | coob | think so, like i say, you'd have to ask josh |
| 12:52:54 | coob | wait, might be relocs |
| 12:52:56 | preglow | linuxstb_: but yeah, i have the format description of the mmap registers lying around here, if you want to look at it |
| 12:53:04 | coob | * @param path Path to the module to load. Should be an ELF 32-bit LSB relocatab |
| 12:53:07 | coob | le |
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| 12:53:15 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Sure. email? |
| 12:53:58 | preglow | mokay |
| 12:54:07 | linuxstb_ | Thanks. No rush though. |
| 12:54:33 | preglow | no, i've got it right here |
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| 12:55:07 | preglow | wiki address is good? |
| 12:55:19 | linuxstb_ | Yes. |
| 12:55:27 | slimx | lo |
| 12:56:08 | B4gder | and here comes yet another ipodder! ;-) |
| 12:56:24 | slimx | :) |
| 12:56:29 | linuxstb_ | We're getting overrun... |
| 12:56:33 | slimx | /msg NickServ IDENTIFY slimX |
| 12:56:50 | slimx | :p |
| 12:56:51 | preglow | there, it's away |
| 12:57:07 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Received. Isn't email wonderful? |
| 12:57:18 | preglow | lovely |
| 12:57:38 | preglow | and before you ask, i have no idea what the page size is |
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| 13:00:37 | amiconn | Bger: There's something fishy with the libfaad dependencies |
| 13:02:47 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: I noticed that last night. I think libfaad is including .h files that it shouldn't be. |
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| 13:08:49 | preglow | any news on libffmpeg aac decoder? :/ |
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| 13:12:22 | Bger | XavierGr ? |
| 13:12:46 | Paprica | mm if i have |
| 13:12:48 | Paprica | 4 and 7 |
| 13:12:54 | Paprica | and iwant to make it 47 |
| 13:13:07 | Paprica | i need to do 4*10+7 |
| 13:13:15 | Paprica | or thereis another way |
| 13:14:43 | Bger | not that i know of |
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| 13:15:55 | Rob2222 | Hi all. |
| 13:16:10 | Rob2222 | Bger: Youre working on the battery_bench plugin, too. or? |
| 13:20:08 | Bger | yep |
| 13:20:24 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: Are you still working on BrickMania? |
| 13:20:42 | Paprica | mm |
| 13:20:45 | Paprica | now no |
| 13:21:04 | Rob2222 | What do you think about takeing > and < as trigger for a new measurement instead of "last measurement != battery voltage" ? |
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| 13:21:38 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: I would quite like to commit it to CVS soon - so I (and others) can port it to the other players Rockbox supports. |
| 13:21:58 | Bger | Rob2222 hm... why ? |
| 13:22:03 | Paprica | mmm |
| 13:22:15 | Paprica | no problem |
| 13:23:09 | Rob2222 | Bger: You wouldnt get more than one measure per voltage level. When the battery is full f.e. i get hundrets of measurements like 4190 4200 4190 4200 4190 .... |
| 13:24:00 | Rob2222 | Even on discharging you get more than one measurement per level cause the level jumps up and down one. |
| 13:24:19 | Rob2222 | To know if you need < or > compare you can simply check the charging status |
| 13:24:36 | Bger | Rob2222 yeah, but this gives us more points/values ;) |
| 13:25:15 | Rob2222 | right, but what you get from that? only more data not more information imho. |
| 13:25:47 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: Do you have original .bmp files you used to create the bitmaps in brickmania.h ? You don't have to run bmp2rb yourself anymore - you can just put your bmp files in apps/plugins/bitmaps/ and the build system will convert them to the correct format for you. |
| 13:26:39 | Paprica | mm idont have the orginals =\ |
| 13:27:19 | Rob2222 | http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/battery_suggestion.txt |
| 13:27:37 | Paprica | anyway, i want new graphics |
| 13:28:06 | Paprica | i think the currect is ugly |
| 13:28:16 | linuxstb_ | I like them. |
| 13:28:16 | Paprica | current |
| 13:28:17 | Bger | Rob2222 yep, i saw it |
| 13:28:18 | Paprica | * |
| 13:28:39 | Paprica | mm |
| 13:28:47 | Paprica | but i dont have them |
| 13:28:48 | Paprica | =\ |
| 13:28:53 | Rob2222 | Bger: I think it would be more correct for a grpah to interpolate between 4100 and 4090 f.e. instead of using 4100 4090 4100 4090 4100 |
| 13:29:33 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: It's not that big of a problem - they will just need to be recreated from the C structures. I'll look at that. |
| 13:29:52 | Paprica | ok |
| 13:29:55 | linuxstb_ | It will then be easy to replace the graphics by just changing the .bmp files in the source. |
| 13:30:00 | Bger | Rob2222 but if you make a graph from this, it'll be different |
| 13:30:22 | Rob2222 | Bger: I think the logs would be more easy to analyze if you have only 1 measurement / voltage level. but its your thing |
| 13:30:50 | Rob2222 | Bger: Why should it be different? If you using time as x axis... |
| 13:31:06 | Rob2222 | You only dont have the little spikes on the graph. |
| 13:31:16 | Rob2222 | http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/1300er.xls |
| 13:31:17 | Bger | because u'll know it's somewhere between 4.1 and 4.09 |
| 13:31:24 | Rob2222 | can you read xls? |
| 13:32:30 | Rob2222 | For what i know that there IS something between 4.1 and 4.09 when i didnt know WHAT there is because i cant measure it |
| 13:32:53 | Bger | u can interpolate it :P |
| 13:33:18 | Bger | hm, nevermind, let's first make a working plugin :) |
| 13:33:42 | Rob2222 | well, no problem, its your decision. |
| 13:34:12 | Rob2222 | i only think its wasting space. almost when in USB mode. |
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| 13:34:31 | Rob2222 | for me the plugin works really good :) |
| 13:34:44 | Rob2222 | only my new 2200mA battery isnt working good :( |
| 13:35:04 | Rob2222 | 10,5h from stock 1400mA and now 12,5h from new 2200mA |
| 13:35:08 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 13:37:48 | Bger | huh |
| 13:38:18 | Rob2222 | yeah, dont by cheap ipod battery replacements |
| 13:42:04 | coob | they do 2400mA ones now i think |
| 13:42:51 | Rob2222 | yes, the same ebay seller sold 2400mA, too |
| 13:43:01 | Rob2222 | but you see what my 2200er has ... |
| 13:43:45 | Jungti1234 | wgagahaah |
| 13:43:47 | Rob2222 | my 2200er has 1666... (if a new H320 stock battery has 1400 as in spec) |
| 13:44:33 | Jungti1234 | wow good Rob2222 |
| 13:44:46 | amiconn | LinusN: Why are the new queue_delete() fns empty for the sims? |
| 13:44:56 | Jungti1234 | 11h 36m? |
| 13:45:15 | amiconn | This won't work properly, as the sims úse the same queueing mechanism as the core |
| 13:45:42 | JdGordon | can ipods play sound yet? |
| 13:45:53 | LinusN | amiconn: because the sim version doesn't have queue_broadcast() |
| 13:46:05 | amiconn | It doesn't? |
| 13:46:08 | amiconn | hmm |
| 13:46:10 | LinusN | hence there is no all_queues[] array to remove from |
| 13:46:44 | Rob2222 | Jungti1234: What you mean? |
| 13:46:49 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 13:46:49 | * | amiconn wonders why |
| 13:47:03 | LinusN | broadcast is only used for usb mode and shutdown |
| 13:47:11 | LinusN | so far |
| 13:47:22 | LinusN | so the sims don't need it |
| 13:47:25 | Jungti1234 | Rob2222: What's that? |
| 13:47:58 | Jungti1234 | Isn't it battery graph? |
| 13:48:14 | Bger | Jungti1234 yep |
| 13:48:16 | Rob2222 | the xls graph? yes. |
| 13:48:20 | amiconn | LinusN: Hmm, imho shutdown should be implemented the same way as on target. More precise simulation is good, imho |
| 13:48:26 | Rob2222 | of my old 1300er battery |
| 13:48:35 | Jungti1234 | You made it. right? |
| 13:48:40 | Rob2222 | yep |
| 13:48:45 | LinusN | amiconn: i agree |
| 13:48:48 | Jungti1234 | Made well.. |
| 13:49:02 | Rob2222 | the new 1300er of my friend got 10,5h with exact the same settings |
| 13:49:31 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1304 |
| 13:49:59 | Jungti1234 | my 1300 battery got 15h. |
| 13:50:49 | XavierGr | Bger you called? |
| 13:51:19 | Rob2222 | Jungti1234: With earphones, -45dB and MP3 128kbit? |
| 13:51:30 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 13:51:49 | Jungti1234 | Rockbox is 10h. |
| 13:51:57 | Rob2222 | Jungti1234: btw, 1300er is wrong, my H340 had a 1400mAh battery in strock |
| 13:52:11 | Rob2222 | ah, i need to rename the files |
| 13:52:18 | Jungti1234 | um? ^^; |
| 13:52:46 | Rob2222 | found that out yesterday |
| 13:53:24 | Rob2222 | my H340 stock battery is a LPCS355385 from SKC |
| 13:54:01 | Rob2222 | and that type has 1400mAh average |
| 13:54:03 | Rob2222 | http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:W6TdcO1dlV4J:www.yyibattery.com/products-Li-ion.htm+LPCS355385&hl=de |
| 13:54:24 | Jungti1234 | I wrapped my H300. |
| 13:54:40 | Rob2222 | http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:TECBhyL0ZGUJ:www.skcbattery.com.cn/pro_disp.htm+LPCS+355385&hl=de <= here is the original site |
| 13:54:44 | Rob2222 | wrapped? |
| 13:55:08 | Jungti1234 | It may repair in iriver. |
| 13:55:24 | Rob2222 | ah |
| 13:55:26 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 13:55:27 | Rob2222 | display |
| 13:55:28 | Rob2222 | ? |
| 13:55:38 | Jungti1234 | Include it. |
| 13:55:55 | Jungti1234 | There is that button works wrongly. |
| 13:56:18 | Rob2222 | which? |
| 13:56:31 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 13:57:10 | Jungti1234 | I pressed '>>' button did 'Stop' function. |
| 13:57:21 | Rob2222 | hehe |
| 13:57:30 | Rob2222 | when i press down i sometimes get RIGHT |
| 13:57:38 | Jungti1234 | yes! |
| 13:57:38 | Rob2222 | but i think thats a rockbox issue |
| 13:57:46 | Rob2222 | never had that before |
| 13:57:46 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 13:57:57 | Jungti1234 | yeah.. |
| 13:58:12 | Rob2222 | should be simple to correct this |
| 13:58:40 | Jungti1234 | But, home delivery engineer(?) didn't come into my house. |
| 13:58:58 | Rob2222 | only take another values for the ADC. |
| 13:59:02 | Rob2222 | Well. |
| 13:59:12 | Rob2222 | I dont think, that its your unit. :D |
| 13:59:23 | Rob2222 | But well, maybe you become a new display, now. |
| 13:59:25 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 13:59:25 | Jungti1234 | home delivery servicer |
| 13:59:43 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
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| 14:00:39 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: Is the BrickMania source code on the plugbox website your very latest version? |
| 14:01:12 | Paprica | the source yes |
| 14:01:35 | Jungti1234 | It didn't fix bug. right? |
| 14:02:28 | Rob2222 | Jungti1234: You know how the buttons work? |
| 14:02:31 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: OK, thanks. I've now got the bmp files recreated - I just need to modify the source slightly to use them. |
| 14:02:47 | Jungti1234 | Rob2222: ? |
| 14:03:04 | Jungti1234 | Paprica: It didn't fix bug? |
| 14:06:07 | JdGordon | :'( is there any work gonna be done to make text look nicer when its drawn on coloured parts of the screen? |
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| 14:07:09 | preglow | eh? |
| 14:07:18 | preglow | why doesn't it look good now? |
| 14:07:54 | JdGordon | im drawing text onto a white part of the screen and the blue is where there is gaps in the letters? |
| 14:08:20 | preglow | right, that's because rockbox doesn't have proper colour support yet |
| 14:08:39 | JdGordon | yup, which is why i asked.... |
| 14:08:53 | JdGordon | anyway, my timetable viewer thingy is almost done |
| 14:09:00 | B4gder | one day we'll have proper color support |
| 14:13:29 | Jungti1234 | Is 32bit support available? |
| 14:14:52 | B4gder | in the future everything is available |
| 14:14:58 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
| 14:15:25 | muesli__ | B4gder sounds like a new slogan for rbx ;) |
| 14:16:00 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 14:17:56 | Paprica | linuxstb_, ok =] |
| 14:18:08 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: Have you properly set the background colour? |
| 14:18:12 | Paprica | Jungti1234, mm i dont have a time to fix it |
| 14:18:25 | JdGordon | no... |
| 14:18:31 | linuxstb_ | IIUC, text should be drawn using the current fg and bg colours. |
| 14:18:40 | linuxstb_ | So you just need to set the background to white. |
| 14:18:43 | preglow | do the ttf -> bitmap converters support antialiasing? |
| 14:18:46 | JdGordon | ah ta |
| 14:20:45 | Jungti1234 | Paprica: ok.. |
| 14:21:14 | JdGordon | ah, thanx alot linuxstb_ |
| 14:27:22 | Rob2222 | Bger: Still here? |
| 14:27:29 | Bger | yep |
| 14:27:46 | Rob2222 | i added a interpolated graph |
| 14:28:05 | Rob2222 | http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/1300er.xls |
| 14:28:32 | Rob2222 | There you can compare Voltage2 and Voltage2_int. |
| 14:28:35 | Rob2222 | If you _want_ |
| 14:28:58 | Rob2222 | Voltage 2 int looks like the measurements done with < |
| 14:31:30 | Rob2222 | ahh, found a little error |
| 14:31:32 | Rob2222 | moment |
| 14:31:50 | Jungti1234 | umm |
| 14:31:55 | Jungti1234 | good jop |
| 14:32:03 | Jungti1234 | Great.... |
| 14:32:43 | Rob2222 | http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/1400stock.xls |
| 14:32:50 | Rob2222 | thats right now |
| 14:33:08 | Jungti1234 | I like color BMP support. :) |
| 14:33:24 | Jungti1234 | http://paulgeluid.nl/apps/rockbox/scrsh3.JPG |
| 14:34:26 | Jungti1234 | I'm hearing only 'iRiver, Catch the digital flow!'. hahaha |
| 14:34:35 | Rob2222 | Bger: The information you would loose in that case is the rise from 7:07-7:12. |
| 14:34:59 | Bger | Rob2222 w8 to load it ... openoffice really doesn't like this .xls :) |
| 14:35:18 | Jungti1234 | I think that is a song that it is delectable and good. |
| 14:35:58 | Rob2222 | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=EN <= XLS viewer |
| 14:36:00 | Jungti1234 | have a nice day |
| 14:36:01 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 14:36:06 | Rob2222 | if you have windows there anywhere |
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| 14:37:09 | amiconn | JdGordon, preglow: This isn't correct. Drawing text uses the current foreground colour, background colour, and draw mode |
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| 14:41:25 | preglow | amiconn: using a font format that is the same resolution as the display should not slow down font drawing much, no? |
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| 14:43:05 | Rob2222_ | re |
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| 14:45:04 | JdGordon | awesome... im done |
| 14:45:22 | JdGordon | who was interesetd in the timetable viewer when i mentioned it a fdew days ago? |
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| 14:54:03 | amiconn | preglow: ??? |
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| 14:54:22 | preglow | amiconn: what? |
| 14:54:44 | preglow | amiconn: for anti aliasing |
| 14:54:44 | amiconn | [14:40:33] <preglow> amiconn: using a font format that is the same resolution as the display should not slow down font drawing <== ??? |
| 14:55:01 | preglow | amiconn: font is just alpha channel |
| 14:55:25 | amiconn | I'd expect alphablending to be slow as hell |
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| 14:59:39 | preglow | we could do like apple and use a fixed background colour :) |
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| 15:00:42 | amiconn | Why do you want alpha anyway? |
| 15:00:48 | preglow | looks good |
| 15:00:50 | amiconn | Imho it's overkill for embedded |
| 15:00:58 | amiconn | I even don't use it on my PC |
| 15:01:01 | preglow | hahaha |
| 15:01:18 | amiconn | I don't like the blurred look |
| 15:01:23 | preglow | as long as i've got an lcd, i use it |
| 15:01:31 | preglow | if not, i don't |
| 15:01:33 | preglow | i prefer it |
| 15:01:44 | preglow | it's good blurring, no ugly jaggies |
| 15:02:19 | JdGordon | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2448.0 |
| 15:03:14 | preglow | but no, i kind of figured you wouldn't like it anyway |
| 15:03:24 | preglow | just toying around with the idea |
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| 15:04:09 | Membrillo | Does anyone here have webspace or a file host i can very temporarily borrow for the good of mankind? |
| 15:04:31 | Bger | hehe |
| 15:04:38 | B4gder | Membrillo: for what? |
| 15:05:31 | Membrillo | im trying to fix my rockbox downloader. but it doesnt like the new URL of the optimized builds. Im trying to see if its the URL or my app. it shouldnt be my app because other URLs work. |
| 15:05:54 | Membrillo | so if someone could upload a copy of the optimized build somewhere I could use that to test |
| 15:06:00 | Bger | what's the URL |
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| 15:06:30 | Membrillo | http://paulgeluid.nl/apps/rockbox/RockBoxH300Optimized.zip |
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| 15:06:44 | JdGordon | Membrillo: can u add some sort of support to not overwrite certain files? |
| 15:07:06 | Membrillo | JdGordon: Like WPS's and stuff? |
| 15:07:11 | JdGordon | ye |
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| 15:07:52 | B4gder | Membrillo: see http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/h300opt/ |
| 15:07:53 | Membrillo | ummm... yeah i guess i could. I would have to unzip to a temp folder, delete the unwanted files and copy the new folder. not too hard |
| 15:08:05 | JdGordon | awesome :D |
| 15:08:21 | Membrillo | B4gder: thanks! |
| 15:08:29 | B4gder | d |
| 15:08:32 | B4gder | oops |
| 15:08:35 | amiconn | preglow: We want to make gfx faster, not slower ;) |
| 15:08:51 | B4gder | amiconn: then we shouldn't do colors at all |
| 15:08:54 | preglow | amiconn: there's a tradeoff in the direction of 'pretty' as well |
| 15:09:06 | * | B4gder likes alpha bledning |
| 15:09:13 | preglow | i like alpha blending in fonts |
| 15:09:13 | Membrillo | ok, that URL works. so theres something fishy with Needleboys URL |
| 15:09:14 | amiconn | B4gder: We have to do colour anyway with the colour lcds |
| 15:09:16 | preglow | i hate it most other places |
| 15:09:31 | preglow | like on desktops... |
| 15:09:35 | B4gder | I like my transparant "select bar" on my phone |
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| 15:09:48 | B4gder | when I move over a list of option to select from |
| 15:09:52 | B4gder | options |
| 15:10:05 | preglow | ahh, sounds nicish |
| 15:10:30 | preglow | but yeah, i just noticed that the nano firmware uses antialiased fonts |
| 15:10:41 | preglow | and started wondering how to implement it so it doesn't bog down everything |
| 15:10:48 | B4gder | when using a fancy bg pic it makes sense to do transparant stuff |
| 15:10:56 | Domonoky | hm dir cache reports "failed: result -2" at startup... anyone knows whats wrong ?? |
| 15:11:32 | Membrillo | I think making text the top layer is most important currently |
| 15:13:05 | amiconn | Imho the most important thing is to speed up gfx |
| 15:13:14 | amiconn | Then we can think about extending it |
| 15:14:02 | amiconn | Currently it's still so slow that it eats significant amounts of CPU power, causes skipping when scrolling for a while etc |
| 15:17:18 | preglow | so, what eats the most cpu? draw or transfer? |
| 15:17:33 | Bger | unicode ... |
| 15:17:45 | Bger | afaik |
| 15:18:04 | markun | yes, I think so too |
| 15:18:20 | amiconn | preglow: Currently drawing eats more than transfer (on H3x0) |
| 15:20:01 | JdGordon | gnite guys |
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| 15:35:55 | NightCat | Hi all! |
| 15:36:30 | muesli__ | mijau |
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| 15:40:06 | BHSPitLappy | mornin' linuxstb |
| 15:40:26 | linuxstb | hello. |
| 15:42:05 | Rob2222_ | How do you think a %-Battery indicator should work? Should he show the % between battery_empty and battery_full OR should he show the % of the real runtime left? |
| 15:43:44 | Bger | one real offtopic q: any of you knows any opensource software, which can communicate with a panasonic tel "digital superhybrid system" and to calculate phone prices... |
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| 15:48:29 | BHSPitLappy | hit up sf.net and freshmeat |
| 15:48:37 | NightCat | BHSPitLappy: "mornin'"? What are you talking about :) Evening ;) |
| 15:48:50 | BHSPitLappy | haha |
| 15:49:03 | NightCat | 17:50 :) |
| 15:49:06 | BHSPitLappy | I'm in my first period class :P |
| 15:49:11 | BHSPitLappy | 08:49 |
| 15:49:33 | NightCat | Somebody works on new WPS or something? |
| 15:49:37 | | Join VeWt [0] (n=vewt@d36-13-104.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 15:49:45 | NightCat | I just want to know... |
| 15:49:55 | VeWt | hihi |
| 15:50:16 | NightCat | Maybe there is some page on Wiki about WPS status? |
| 15:50:39 | NightCat | Something called NewWPSStatus... |
| 15:50:48 | B4gder | there's a wps gallery |
| 15:51:09 | thegeek_ | for new wps's, try checking out the misticriver forums |
| 15:51:12 | NightCat | No. I mean a new WPS system... |
| 15:51:27 | NightCat | thegeek_: Yes... |
| 15:51:34 | B4gder | then check the patch tracker I guess |
| 15:52:00 | thegeek_ | I don't think there is a "new" system in development |
| 15:52:14 | thegeek_ | only improvements on the current system |
| 15:52:20 | thegeek_ | afai |
| 15:52:21 | thegeek_ | k |
| 15:52:22 | NightCat | thegeek_: Really? ;( |
| 15:52:32 | NightCat | :'( |
| 15:52:40 | thegeek_ | what is the problem with the current system? |
| 15:52:49 | B4gder | there are efforts for colors, for other tags and for token parser |
| 15:53:32 | NightCat | B4gder: I'm use it already... |
| 15:53:39 | B4gder | "it" ? |
| 15:53:45 | B4gder | I mentioned a whole range |
| 15:54:05 | NightCat | I'm use some of the patchs. |
| 15:54:18 | thegeek_ | hehe |
| 15:54:41 | thegeek_ | I hate it when people say "yes" to a multiple-answer question;) |
| 15:54:47 | NightCat | I can do a screenshot ;) |
| 15:55:11 | NightCat | What you mean? |
| 15:55:40 | thegeek_ | I was primarily talking to B4gder;) |
| 15:55:45 | thegeek_ | not that important anyway |
| 15:56:05 | VeWt | when's the last time Ze has been around? |
| 15:57:41 | B4gder | /whois ze |
| 15:57:56 | VeWt | yea i mean talked in here |
| 15:58:13 | B4gder | yes, and the /whois output tells that |
| 15:58:25 | B4gder | if he did talk at all of course |
| 15:58:28 | VeWt | wierd mine doesent heh |
| 15:58:34 | VeWt | nod |
| 15:58:35 | VeWt | ok thanks |
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| 16:01:34 | thegeek_ | do : /whois ze ze |
| 16:01:38 | thegeek_ | for extended whois |
| 16:01:47 | thegeek_ | that way you'll get idletime too |
| 16:02:34 | VeWt | ahhhhhh ok great, thanks |
| 16:03:05 | thegeek_ | np |
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| 16:23:07 | Paprica | what wrong with it? |
| 16:23:08 | Paprica | char *p=strchr(tag, '|'); |
| 16:23:08 | Paprica | progress_height=atoi(++p); |
| 16:23:08 | Paprica | p=strchr(p, '|'); |
| 16:23:08 | Paprica | progress_width=atoi(++p); |
| 16:23:29 | Paprica | i have a %pb|08|09| |
| 16:23:36 | Paprica | and it works |
| 16:23:44 | Paprica | but the simulator fall down |
| 16:24:07 | B4gder | use gdb! |
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| 16:24:17 | Paprica | what is gdb? |
| 16:25:28 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: I'm about to commit your brickmania to CVS. |
| 16:25:40 | Paprica | =] |
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| 16:25:48 | linuxstb_ | I had to reformat the source code a little - it was nowhere near Rockbox's coding standards :) |
| 16:25:59 | Paprica | hihi |
| 16:26:00 | Paprica | =] |
| 16:27:08 | linuxstb_ | And it's working on my ipod now as well, so I'm happy :) |
| 16:27:24 | Paprica | good :] |
| 16:27:36 | Paprica | mm the pad moves ok? |
| 16:27:51 | webguest60 | Paprica: are you working on a user resizable progress bar? |
| 16:28:01 | Paprica | yep |
| 16:28:11 | linuxstb_ | Yes, it's fine. I'm just using the left/right buttons, and not the clickwheel though. |
| 16:28:11 | webguest60 | Great! |
| 16:28:23 | Paprica | i do an ipod photo wps for h3xx with colors |
| 16:28:28 | Paprica | and i want to change it |
| 16:28:29 | linuxstb_ | But after it's in CVS, I may change that. |
| 16:28:31 | webguest60 | That would be a very welcome addition |
| 16:28:43 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: I can use that on my ipod photo :) |
| 16:28:44 | webguest60 | Now for your next project...album art! |
| 16:29:04 | Paprica | =] |
| 16:29:24 | B4gder | does people in general really have album arts stored? |
| 16:29:33 | Paprica | webguest60, i leave it for the experts =] |
| 16:30:42 | webguest60 | B4gder: I do ;) |
| 16:30:58 | B4gder | on all songs? |
| 16:31:21 | webguest60 | Yep...I have this program that makes acquiring the art quite easy |
| 16:31:22 | B4gder | or do your system have some kind of folder/db with them ? |
| 16:31:26 | B4gder | ah, ok |
| 16:31:38 | webguest60 | I put the cover in the same folder as the album and title it the same |
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| 16:32:05 | webguest60 | e.g. for the album No Control I have a 'No Control.bmp' file |
| 16:32:55 | webguest60 | Here's a total newb question but how do I change by screenname e.g. webguest60 is now known as... |
| 16:33:24 | Bger | with /nick newnick |
| 16:33:28 | | Nick webguest60 is now known as ts-x (n=0cb706c2@labb.contactor.se) |
| 16:33:36 | ts-x | :) |
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| 16:34:40 | lostlogic | Slasheri: any interest in looking at what I'm _trying_ to make work, but that still has issues with playing old data on track skips? |
| 16:34:49 | ts-x | Paprica: Thanks again for adding those Brickmania levels I created, your level tool worked very well |
| 16:35:10 | Paprica | =] |
| 16:35:17 | Paprica | thank you for the levels |
| 16:35:38 | Paprica | my levels very ugly lol |
| 16:35:49 | Rob2222_ | is it simple to create a patch file? |
| 16:36:09 | B4gder | Rob2222_: yes |
| 16:36:12 | B4gder | you use cvs? |
| 16:36:15 | Rob2222_ | yes |
| 16:36:17 | ts-x | I tough to make nice looking levels with only a 8x10 grid with 7 colors ;) |
| 16:36:20 | Pi | cvs diff -u > finename.patch |
| 16:36:22 | ts-x | It's |
| 16:36:24 | Paprica | diff -u <http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 16:36:30 | Paprica | clah |
| 16:36:31 | Paprica | =\ |
| 16:36:50 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 16:37:15 | Paprica | ts-x, =] |
| 16:37:32 | Rob2222_ | ok |
| 16:37:38 | Rob2222_ | thanks |
| 16:37:39 | Rob2222_ | :) |
| 16:37:39 | lostlogic | Paprica: does blockmania cache levels, or does it do a disk hit every level change? |
| 16:38:25 | Paprica | hit cache the levels |
| 16:38:34 | Paprica | they are in the c file |
| 16:38:39 | Paprica | no in another file |
| 16:38:40 | lostlogic | ah, sweet |
| 16:38:50 | Paprica | not* |
| 16:38:51 | Paprica | =] |
| 16:39:17 | Paprica | mm and its brickmania |
| 16:39:23 | Paprica | ;] |
| 16:39:26 | ts-x | For those of you who haven't played it through, there's a special Rockbox tribute level near the end :) |
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| 16:41:00 | lostlogic | hehe, sorry −− I'll have to install it sometime. |
| 16:41:27 | Pi | does it work with the new header thing |
| 16:42:01 | ts-x | Nothing says loving Rockbox like bustin' it up in Brickmania! |
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| 16:43:12 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: I'm sorry to say that the levels are back in the C file now. The Rockbox convention is for every plugin to be a self-contained C file (unless they are huge like rockboy) |
| 16:43:58 | Paprica | no problem |
| 16:44:16 | lostlogic | linuxstb_: sokoban is also an exception becaues its levels don't all fit in ram |
| 16:44:18 | Paprica | i do it because i move the bitmaps to the .h |
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| 16:59:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Has anyone in here built the X5 sim? |
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| 17:00:18 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: BrickMania now in CVS. |
| 17:00:19 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:01:00 | linuxstb_ | Now we need someone to port it to the other players. |
| 17:01:01 | Paprica | =] |
| 17:01:18 | Paprica | mm it shows in the daily builds? |
| 17:01:39 | linuxstb_ | Yes, it will be in the next bleeding edge build in about 30 minutes - and in tonight's daily build. |
| 17:01:55 | Paprica | =] |
| 17:01:58 | Paprica | good |
| 17:01:59 | Paprica | 10q |
| 17:02:00 | linuxstb_ | And forever.... |
| 17:02:13 | linuxstb_ | np Thanks for the game. |
| 17:02:13 | Paprica | :] |
| 17:03:58 | Pi | i just did cvs up -dP and compiled to get an error |
| 17:04:07 | linuxstb_ | Ooops. What's the error? |
| 17:04:14 | linuxstb_ | Did you do "make clean" first? |
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| 17:04:57 | Pi | trying again |
| 17:05:25 | linuxstb_ | Did it complain about missing bitmaps (e.g. brickmania_menu_bg) ? |
| 17:05:37 | Pi | think so |
| 17:05:49 | Pi | i cant see the screen anymore |
| 17:06:14 | linuxstb_ | Yes, make clean should fix that. I think make clean is needed whenever a SOURCES file is changed. |
| 17:06:33 | Pi | ahh ok |
| 17:10:08 | Rob2222_ | Does anybody know how I can compare RB volume with iRiver volume? |
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| 17:10:40 | coob | one is louder |
| 17:11:22 | Rob2222 | I want to know which iRiver FW volume equals to -45dB RB. |
| 17:11:54 | Pi | it compiled fine that time |
| 17:12:03 | linuxstb_ | Good. |
| 17:12:29 | amiconn | ugh |
| 17:12:56 | * | amiconn spots a (pretty much) one-platform plugin |
| 17:13:03 | linuxstb_ | For now.... |
| 17:14:05 | linuxstb_ | I thought the game was too good for it to just be for the h300. If it wasn't in CVS, then it would never get adapted to the other players. At least now, anyone can do it. |
| 17:14:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | sdl sims still don't compile on cygwin for me.. |
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| 17:19:24 | ts-x | linuxstb_: Did you get my msg (sorry it was my first time using it, wanted to make sure it made it through) |
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| 17:22:18 | Mmmm | Could someone tell me whether it would be ok to put "#define ANA_LEFT_GAIN global_settings.rec_left_gain" into the code to reduce the size (and complicated looking conditionals)? or would that be considered bad practise? |
| 17:22:50 | Mmmm | and if it is ok should I put it in the header file or the code file? |
| 17:23:48 | linuxstb | IMHO, it's bad practice. It hides the fact that it is a configuration variable in the global settings - it makes it look as if it is a constant. |
| 17:24:06 | linuxstb | (but that's just my view) |
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| 17:25:15 | Mmmm | ok..ta... who's view should I trust? :) |
| 17:25:49 | linuxstb | Is that practice used elsewhere in Rockbox? |
| 17:26:48 | Mmmm | I thought i saw it in the metronome plugin, but linus said it was badly structured...I didn't really know exactly which part he was referring to! :D |
| 17:27:58 | Mmmm | No...its not there...thought I saw it somewhere though....maybe I imagined it! :D |
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| 17:31:49 | Mmmm | doing a quick grep it doesn't come up with any... Thanks linuxstb, I won't do that then... |
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| 17:37:12 | ts-x | linuxstb: Not yet registered on Freenode (guess that's the problem), I will try later when I'm not stuck behind my company's web filtering software |
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| 17:50:23 | rayo | what does work on the ipod 4G? (is it usable?) |
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| 17:51:13 | Slasheri | haha, now rockbox logo only flashed on the screen (less than a second) and then directory browser popped in :) but unfortunately it doesn't play anything know.. still more coding with that effort of faster boot time :) |
| 17:51:24 | Slasheri | -k |
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| 17:52:28 | Domonoky_ | slasheri: what means "failed, result -2" at startup ?.. (dircache) |
| 17:53:20 | Slasheri | Domonoky_: Hmm, unfortunately that can mean lots of things.. you should use logf enabled build for more accurate reason. But most likely the directory tree was too deep or dircache size limit was reached |
| 17:53:23 | muesli__ | i wonder it says error messages like this instead of possible sources for errors :o |
| 17:53:31 | muesli__ | why |
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| 17:53:51 | Domonoky_ | ah.. ok.. will test :-) |
| 17:53:57 | Slasheri | muesli__: error messages are not compiled unless logf is enabled |
| 17:54:06 | Slasheri | :) |
| 17:54:27 | muesli__ | whatever logf means.. just my 0.000002 oere ;) |
| 17:56:22 | Slasheri | it's a debug option that will enable a system message console on the remote display |
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| 17:58:06 | rfm | hi everyone ... is anyone intrestd in an iriver ihp 120 for £110? |
| 17:59:39 | lostlogic | http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox/pcm_broken_enhancement.patch THIS PATCH BREAKS SKIPPING but it gives a 4+% boost improvement during playback. If anyone can figure out why it's broken and fix it w/o losing the performance improvement, that would be lovely. I've spent many hours and not figured it out. |
| 17:59:55 | rfm | is anyone intrestd in an iriver ihp 120 for £110? |
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| 18:00:07 | linuxstb | rayo: Which ipod 4G? Color or greyscale? |
| 18:00:12 | rfm | i have got all boxes and packaging aprt from remote and headphones |
| 18:00:19 | lostlogic | rfm: what currency symbol is that, it's not readable to me |
| 18:00:23 | rfm | pounds |
| 18:01:03 | rfm | it has rockbox installed and can come with songs already installed on |
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| 18:02:19 | rfm | anybody? |
| 18:02:36 | Rob2222 | Slasheri: When configuring a logf option, do i have to enter something after selecting logf? |
| 18:03:02 | | Quit rfm ("CGI:IRC") |
| 18:04:12 | Domonoky_ | hm.. could it be, that logf builds for iriver h120 are broken at moment ? |
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| 18:05:57 | Slasheri | Rob2222: just enter l, enter, enter |
| 18:06:14 | Rob2222 | Hmm. |
| 18:06:39 | Slasheri | Domonoky_: yes, it's possible. If it fails to compile due to an crossfeed error, frame-pointers should be disabled |
| 18:06:41 | Rob2222 | Why I get compile errors when trying to compile a debug version... |
| 18:06:49 | Slasheri | that can be done by editing the configure -script |
| 18:06:50 | Domonoky_ | ah.. |
| 18:06:53 | Rob2222 | Well OK, its not that important. |
| 18:07:24 | Rob2222 | ah ok. lol |
| 18:07:29 | Rob2222 | first read then write |
| 18:08:39 | Domonoky_ | i tried adapting brickmania to h1x0, but it wont be nice with only 4 different greys.. :-) |
| 18:08:42 | Rob2222 | GCCOPTIMIZE="-fomit-frame-pointer" => GCCOPTIMIZE="" ? |
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| 18:11:10 | Slasheri | Rob2222: yes |
| 18:12:25 | muesli__ | Domonoky_ only 4grays? imho h1xx can handle 33steps |
| 18:12:57 | Domonoky_ | jeah.. but then i had to use the greyscale framwork... so more to modify.. |
| 18:13:14 | Domonoky_ | and more to learn... :-) |
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| 18:14:06 | Rob2222 | still getting "dsp.c:476: error: can't find a register in class `ADDR_REGS' while reloading `asm'" |
| 18:14:16 | Rob2222 | but well, i dont need a debug version atm |
| 18:14:24 | muesli__ | ok ok :-D its always easy to suggest when you dont have any clue ;) |
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| 18:17:58 | tucoz | Hi, what are the keybindings in the SDL-sim for h3x0 or ipod photo? |
| 18:19:14 | tucoz | I wanted to try out brickmania, but I do not seem to be able to actually start the game. Only load the plugin and move around in the start-menu. |
| 18:19:15 | linuxstb | Check uisimulator/sdl/button-x11.c |
| 18:19:25 | tucoz | linuxstb. ah, the source :) |
| 18:19:33 | linuxstb | Yes, Luke. |
| 18:21:51 | lostlogic | lol |
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| 18:23:48 | tucoz | hmm, no success. Do you know if there are issues with laptop-keyboards? |
| 18:26:13 | NightCat | Wich parameter to use in rb->open() to overwrite a file? |
| 18:27:25 | NightCat | Hellllloooo!!!! |
| 18:27:33 | tucoz | ah, at last. It was '5' I needed to press. |
| 18:27:34 | NightCat | Is somebody here? |
| 18:28:04 | NightCat | Please, answer my question... |
| 18:28:33 | tucoz | cool game. Wish I had a colour target. |
| 18:28:39 | linuxstb | tucoz: The cursor keys and "space" are all I need for brickmania in the h300 sim. |
| 18:28:45 | linuxstb | (I've just tried it) |
| 18:29:00 | * | tucoz blushes |
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| 18:29:30 | tucoz | I was quite certain I had tried space after reading the source. Well, lucky you colour-rockboxers. |
| 18:29:50 | NightCat | O_RDWR ? |
| 18:30:07 | NightCat | OR O_CREAT|O_RDWR|O_TRUNC |
| 18:30:26 | linuxstb | The second one sounds about right. |
| 18:30:47 | NightCat | Ok - will try it now. |
| 18:30:55 | tucoz | linuxstb: well, I tried all those keys in the ipod-photo sim. And it doesnt work there. |
| 18:31:23 | tucoz | i.e. space, '5', 'kp5' |
| 18:31:24 | lostlogic | NightCat: I think there is an O_WRONLY |
| 18:31:32 | lostlogic | but I could be wrong |
| 18:31:50 | linuxstb | tucoz: Yes, I'm not sure all the keys for the ipod are handled in the SDL sim. I need to look at that. |
| 18:32:30 | NightCat | Well, then I'll try it all :) |
| 18:34:22 | tucoz | good move on the bmp2rb when building stuff. Makes it a lot easier for the graphic artists to work on rockbox-prettifying. |
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| 18:34:46 | tucoz | which I expect them to do eventually. |
| 18:35:36 | tucoz | bye bye |
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| 18:36:36 | Domonoky_ | ok.. now brickmania is nearly playable on h1x0.. but it looks too ugly.. i have to look in to the greyscale framework.. :-) |
| 18:36:45 | Rob2222 | Is anyone working on the audio drive for the ipods? |
| 18:36:50 | Rob2222 | +r |
| 18:39:14 | linuxstb | Not really. But it's the next thing on the to-do list when somebody finds the time. |
| 18:39:57 | Domonoky_ | question: does the bmp2rb build system work with 33shades bmps ? for the grayscale framework ? |
| 18:40:11 | linuxstb | Don't complicate things :) |
| 18:41:08 | linuxstb | I guess we could add it if plugins need it. |
| 18:41:27 | Domonoky_ | so.. if like to use the grayscale framework in brickmania, i have to include pix into the .c file.,. |
| 18:41:53 | linuxstb | No - if bmp2rb can produce the files, then you should patch the build system to handle it. |
| 18:42:52 | Domonoky_ | hm i think bmp2rb supports this grayscale format... |
| 18:43:40 | linuxstb | You'll need to do the following: 1) Define a BMP2RB_GRAY variable in tools/configure and export it to the main Makefile |
| 18:44:23 | linuxstb | 2) Edit apps/plugins/Makefile to use BMP2RB_GRAY to build files in apps/plugins/bitmaps/grayscale |
| 18:44:44 | Domonoky_ | i will try.. :-) |
| 18:44:50 | linuxstb | 3) Copy one of the other bitmaps/*/Makefile files into your bitmaps/grayscale/ directory and edit it |
| 18:45:14 | linuxstb | 4) Create a SOURCES file in apps/plugins/bitmaps/grayscale/ and use it to refer to your bmp files (which also go in that directory). |
| 18:45:44 | linuxstb | Checking my original CVS commit will show you exactly what I needed to change - so you just need to do the same. |
| 18:46:04 | linuxstb | It's here: http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-01-22%2021:31:39.html |
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| 18:46:49 | linuxstb | But I'm not sure if anyone's attempted to use the grayscale lib for games before. Maybe amiconn will have an idea about how well that would (or would not) work. |
| 18:47:12 | Domonoky_ | i will just try.. :-) |
| 18:49:37 | NightCat | Mmm, if I want to read/write some options for my plugin, wich way the best? |
| 18:50:31 | NightCat | For the first time I use read_line to read 4 options (4 lines) from file, but how to write this 4 options? |
| 18:50:49 | NightCat | There is no write_line() function... only write... |
| 18:52:42 | linuxstb | You can use snprintf() to write to a buffer, and then write() to write that buffer. |
| 18:53:12 | linuxstb | Or there is the configfile library in plugins/lib/configfile.h |
| 18:54:04 | NightCat | Ok. |
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| 19:01:45 | slimx | see ya brb |
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| 19:01:57 | slimx | time to leave the office |
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| 19:02:02 | slimx | and go back home |
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| 19:03:01 | slimx | i hoppe linuxstb, that you'll be there later so i can join next step for the ipod3g port ;-) |
| 19:03:18 | jf2 | i was looking on the website. Is there a Rockbox for "Dummies" tutorial or something. Where I can find out what it can do and can't do and such. I don't want to be asking stupid questions.. . . |
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| 19:03:49 | linuxstb | jf2: Rockbox is developing faster than the documentation. Which player do you have? |
| 19:04:15 | jf2 | iriver IHP120 |
| 19:05:20 | linuxstb | You could start with the iriver FAQ - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ |
| 19:06:43 | jf2 | thanks |
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| 19:12:22 | ep0ch | can someone explain why i can't build rockbox all of a sudden? LD rockbox.elf "ld returned 1 exit status" |
| 19:12:22 | NightCat | Is there any way to get random number in rb? |
| 19:12:30 | amiconn | linuxstb: I didn't test whether it's really fast enough, but since my graphics api rework the grayscale lib can work in buffered mode (it's now even the standard mode, where all drawing primitives are available) |
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| 19:12:44 | amiconn | So it should be much more suitable for animated gfx than before |
| 19:13:26 | Domonoky_ | good to know.. i will make some tests with brickmania and the grayscale lib :-) |
| 19:13:43 | amiconn | Unbuffered operation provides only a subset of the primitives, mostly for allowing (near) full depth on archos w/o using the audio buffer |
| 19:14:10 | NightCat | What about random? |
| 19:14:27 | saratoga | Are the two cores on the Ipod symetric or is one just a coprocessor of some sort? |
| 19:14:47 | Domonoky_ | grayscale lib doesnt work on the sim..? |
| 19:14:57 | amiconn | nope |
| 19:14:59 | linuxstb | saratoga: AFAIK, they are both identical. They all have equal access to the peripherals. |
| 19:15:08 | linuxstb | s/all/both/ |
| 19:15:11 | amiconn | That's a thing I wanted to add for long... |
| 19:15:46 | saratoga | does the current port use the second core for anything? |
| 19:16:00 | linuxstb | No, but we plan to use it. |
| 19:16:15 | linuxstb | At the moment we just send it to sleep and forget about it. |
| 19:16:45 | amiconn | zzzzzz |
| 19:16:49 | saratoga | how much work would be required before it would be available for plugins to access? |
| 19:17:08 | NightCat | People? What about random? Is there any function? |
| 19:17:38 | _FireFly_ | afaik the thread scheduler must be modified to support the second core |
| 19:17:45 | linuxstb | saratoga: In Rockbox, plugins run in the main UI thread. Our intention is to have audio decoding on one processor, and everything else on the other. |
| 19:17:58 | linuxstb | But nothing's set in stone yet. |
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| 19:18:13 | ep0ch | ls |
| 19:18:15 | | Quit ender1 (Connection timed out) |
| 19:18:16 | ep0ch | oops |
| 19:18:25 | _FireFly_ | ep0ch: wrong window :) |
| 19:18:45 | ep0ch | :D |
| 19:20:47 | linuxstb | NightCat: rb->rand() - most game plugins use it. |
| 19:21:07 | ep0ch | i'm so dumb, all this time i was trying to build gcc with 'make' on freebsd. should have been gmake. d'oh. |
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| 19:21:48 | Domonoky_ | first tests with the grayscale system and brickmania, doesnt look too bad... lets try to integrate grayscale into th bmp2rb build system.. :-) |
| 19:23:46 | amiconn | Hmm, that'll be a third category |
| 19:23:53 | amiconn | mono/native/gray |
| 19:23:55 | amiconn | linuxstb? |
| 19:23:56 | Domonoky_ | jes.. |
| 19:23:58 | linuxstb | :( |
| 19:24:08 | Domonoky_ | but only for plugins.. i think.. |
| 19:24:11 | amiconn | yes |
| 19:24:27 | amiconn | Hmmmmm |
| 19:24:50 | amiconn | The grayscale lib bitmap depth is variable, so there is no native format |
| 19:25:05 | amiconn | Instead, the lib takes canonical greyscale bitmaps |
| 19:25:29 | linuxstb | How is it variable? Does the plugin set the depth? |
| 19:25:32 | amiconn | (brightness 0..255, normal scanlines left to right, line by line) |
| 19:26:11 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes, the plugin can even set any depth from 1 to 32 (equalling 2..33 shades of grey), not just powers of 2 |
| 19:26:52 | amiconn | ...and the lib does graceful degradation if the provided buffer memory is too small for the requested depth |
| 19:27:51 | linuxstb | Domonoky_: What greyscale depth are you using for brickmania? |
| 19:28:29 | Domonoky_ | hm.. i have only done some test.. i think 33 shades. |
| 19:28:46 | amiconn | linuxstb: bmp2rb already supports the required output format: -f 3 |
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| 19:29:06 | BHSPitLappy | wow...that's a lot of shades. |
| 19:29:32 | amiconn | Indeed... The same trick should be possible on the 4-grey iPods |
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| 19:37:04 | dtall | just a quick question, has anyone else had problems with usb-storage and ISD-200 on 2.6.14 kernel? |
| 19:40:01 | t0mas | haven't installed 2.6.14 yet... I'm at 2.6.12 atm |
| 19:47:08 | dtall | I have got this for a while and it's stoppping me moving to 2.6 |
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| 19:47:28 | dtall | Just a sec, checking I'm not being a ID10T |
| 19:50:44 | dtall | nope |
| 19:51:04 | dtall | Problem seems to occur after plugin |
| 19:51:47 | dtall | The standard initialisation messages go by and /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 appear |
| 19:52:13 | dtall | It is then mountable / fsckable, but very quickly becomes unreadable |
| 19:52:16 | Slasheri | hehe :D |
| 19:52:32 | Slasheri | now with my flashed iriver, the boot time from power off to file browser is 3s :) |
| 19:52:39 | Slasheri | (but wps files are not loaded yet) |
| 19:53:30 | Slasheri | about the time hdd takes to spin up.. |
| 19:53:35 | dtall | usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 |
| 19:53:37 | dtall | scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices |
| 19:53:38 | dtall | usb-storage: device found at 3 |
| 19:53:40 | dtall | usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning |
| 19:53:42 | dtall | Vendor: ST94011A Model: Rev: 3.05 |
| 19:53:43 | dtall | Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 |
| 19:53:44 | dtall | SCSI device sda: 78140160 512-byte hdwr sectors (40008 MB) |
| 19:53:46 | dtall | sda: assuming drive cache: write through |
| 19:53:47 | dtall | SCSI device sda: 78140160 512-byte hdwr sectors (40008 MB) |
| 19:53:49 | dtall | sda: assuming drive cache: write through |
| 19:53:50 | dtall | sda: sda1 |
| 19:53:52 | dtall | Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| 19:53:54 | dtall | usb-storage: device scan complete |
| 19:53:55 | dtall | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000 |
| 19:53:57 | dtall | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 15168 |
| 19:53:58 | dtall | printk: 7 messages suppressed. |
| 19:54:00 | dtall | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 1892 |
| 19:54:01 | dtall | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000 |
| 19:54:03 | dtall | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 15176 |
| 19:54:04 | dtall | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 1893 |
| 19:54:06 | dtall | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000 |
| 19:54:08 | dtall | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 15184 |
| 19:54:10 | dtall | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 1894 |
| 19:54:12 | dtall | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000 |
| 19:54:14 | Slasheri | very nice paste.. |
| 19:54:14 | dtall | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 15192 |
| 19:54:16 | dtall | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 1895 |
| 19:54:18 | dtall | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000 |
| 19:54:20 | dtall | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 15200 |
| 19:54:22 | dtall | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 1896 |
| 19:54:24 | dtall | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000 |
| 19:54:26 | dtall | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 15208 |
| 19:54:28 | dtall | sorry about the long line flood |
| 19:54:32 | dtall | This is what the dmesg output looks like |
| 19:54:35 | dtall | anyone know what the SCSI error 0x70000 corresponds to? |
| 19:54:40 | Slasheri | few lines would have been enough |
| 19:54:53 | Slasheri | it seems the hdd might be broken |
| 19:54:59 | dtall | sorry wanted to show the full context.. |
| 19:55:39 | dtall | The HDD works fine to play music.... |
| 19:56:01 | dtall | and works fine on kernel 2.4 ... just a sec minor version |
| 19:56:04 | Slasheri | you should check it with some program.. scandisk or something like that |
| 19:56:08 | amiconn | ISD200 is an 'unusual device', i.e. not 100% UMS compatible |
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| 19:56:32 | dtall | 2.4.31 |
| 19:56:34 | amiconn | Perhaps the special handling in linux is broken with kernel 2.6? |
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| 19:56:48 | dtall | give amiconn a cigar |
| 19:56:52 | dtall | :-) |
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| 19:57:23 | * | amiconn fires up linux vm |
| 19:57:43 | dtall | Slasheri, I don't have any Windows boxen, but I'm currently fscking it on 2.4.31 boxen |
| 19:58:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hiya. Anyone with an H1x0 noticing the status bar being drawn wrong on their remote now? |
| 19:59:02 | dtall | My distro is gentoo stable so these are 2.4.31-r1 and 2.6.14-r5, but this has persisted since about 2.6.12 |
| 19:59:18 | dtall | just a bit AFK for biological imperative |
| 19:59:23 | Slasheri | dtall: try fsck.vfat |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:04 | dtall | Slasheri, I am on my 2.4 box, but any attempt on the 2.6 results in SCSI error 0x70000 as above |
| 20:00:37 | dtall | if this is the cause, it still points to poor error handling on 2.6 over 2.4 |
| 20:00:40 | dtall | AFK |
| 20:01:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not sure what triggered it sadly |
| 20:02:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Also, is attempting to seek in a FLAC supposed to restart the whole song? |
| 20:02:33 | amiconn | dtall: Hmm, works here. Debian testing, kernel 2.6.12 on VMware, USB device with ISD-200 connected to it |
| 20:02:41 | amiconn | (Archos jukebox Studio 10) |
| 20:02:44 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: It will do if there is no seektable in your flac file. |
| 20:02:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 20:02:55 | Slasheri | dtall: ah, true.. probably a kernel problem then |
| 20:03:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | I figured it was related that, though I wouldn't have expected quite that behaviour. |
| 20:03:41 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Just use metaflac and add them - "metaflac −−add-seekpoint=10s file.flac" will add seek points every 10 seconds. You probably have enough padding in your file to add seekpoints every 1s without increasing the filesize. |
| 20:04:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I don't actually *need* seeking in my flacs at all, I was just trying to figure out how to re-trigger the bug I had with the status bar drawing wrong on my remote. |
| 20:05:06 | linuxstb | So it's not wrong all the time, just sometimes? |
| 20:05:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently |
| 20:05:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I got home, looked at my remote to shut down, and the status bar was on the 3rd line |
| 20:05:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | In the WPS. (The bottom two lines of the WPS were drawn above it.) |
| 20:05:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | In the menus / directory tree, same behaviour. Status on 3rd, bottom two above it. |
| 20:06:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Reboot the unit, back to normal, not really sure when/how it triggered. =/ |
| 20:07:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | And, it only affected the remote. The main screen was fine |
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| 20:09:55 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: Maybe you plugged the remote a little slow, or there was a contact problem for some reason. |
| 20:10:25 | amiconn | Seems like the LCD init wasn't transmitted 100% correct |
| 20:15:13 | Paprica | what do you think? |
| 20:15:13 | Paprica | http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump0601232112410ll.png |
| 20:15:46 | petur | nice |
| 20:16:01 | Paprica | :] |
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| 20:16:42 | dtall | back |
| 20:16:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Whatever it was, it had to happen after boot, because the remote had been right earlier, without the unit every being turned off in the period. |
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| 20:17:45 | linuxstb | Paprica: That's evil. I'm porting Rockbox to the ipod to get away from that. And now you bring it back.... |
| 20:17:45 | amiconn | Did you unplug and replug the remote inbetween? |
| 20:17:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope |
| 20:17:53 | amiconn | hmm |
| 20:17:59 | dtall | amiconn, any chance you could try 2.6.13 or 2.6.14 in VMware as I think the problem came in then.... |
| 20:18:04 | Paprica | lol |
| 20:18:05 | Paprica | =] |
| 20:18:43 | amiconn | dtall: Debian testing doesn't provide kernel > 2.6.12 yet |
| 20:18:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | It *is* possible the remote's plug got shifted, I suppose. I had my phone in the pocket, and fished it out first, could've messed with the remote's connection. |
| 20:18:58 | amiconn | There must be a reason for this... |
| 20:19:38 | lostlogic | Slasheri: you didn't happen to take a look at that patch I mentioned a while ago? |
| 20:19:41 | dtall | hmm.... Might try rolling back to 2.6.12 and see if the problem goes away |
| 20:20:01 | linuxstb | Paprica: Which patches are needed to Rockbox CVS for that WPS? |
| 20:20:20 | dtall | if it does, I'll run a diff on the usb-storage parts of the kernel and see if I can track down the problem. |
| 20:20:30 | amiconn | dtall: Maybe it's an USB driver problem though. VMware uses an uhci driver, while your machine uses ohci |
| 20:20:45 | Paprica | mm i will upload the patch to the traker |
| 20:20:48 | Slasheri | lostlogic: sorry, haven't had time yet.. i will try tomorrow |
| 20:20:50 | Paprica | only one |
| 20:21:26 | Paprica | that make a costume pb |
| 20:21:29 | lostlogic | Slasheri: no worries −− I'm sure if I get a chance to finish my drawings of the playback engine, it'll become clear what happens. |
| 20:21:36 | Paprica | look like this |
| 20:21:37 | Paprica | %pb|10|4| |
| 20:21:41 | Slasheri | :) |
| 20:21:52 | Paprica | and if you leave it |
| 20:21:56 | Paprica | %pb |
| 20:22:11 | Paprica | it draw the orginal pb |
| 20:23:18 | linuxstb | Ah, so your patch allows customisation of the progress bar? |
| 20:23:26 | Bger | lostlogic u're writing a block diagram ?? :)) |
| 20:23:26 | Paprica | yep |
| 20:23:32 | Paprica | width and height |
| 20:23:57 | dtall | Hmm SIS USB 1.0 controller on K7S5A, but this board was used with my archos when it was running 2.4, so this shouldn't be the problem... |
| 20:24:41 | amiconn | dtall: I mean that the ohci linux kernel driver might have a bug that the uhci driver doesn't have |
| 20:25:19 | lostlogic | Bger: something of the sort −− basically I'm hoping to draw out all of the call paths in playback.c, pcmbuf.c and pcm_playback.c plus some indicators of how they are called by the codecs and wps. |
| 20:25:42 | lostlogic | I happened to acquire microsoft visio through work, so I'm practicing |
| 20:26:01 | dtall | I know, but I thought it was using ohci on 2.4 fine. It could be that, but no other USB devices seem flaky except the archos. |
| 20:26:24 | Paprica | lol |
| 20:26:56 | Paprica | my wps use a bug at linus 24 bit bmp reader |
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| 20:30:00 | ts-x | Paprica: With your patch is it possible to right or left align the progess bar? |
| 20:30:09 | Paprica | no =\ |
| 20:31:15 | ts-x | Would that be an easy option to add? |
| 20:31:23 | dtall | One other point is that the flaky heap of junk Ali M5621 based external HDD now works with no problems in 2.6.14, but previously had the same problem. |
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| 20:32:21 | dtall | I think there was maybe a patch to the USB mass storage compliant code, which hasn't had it's equivalent applied to the ISD-200 code around 2.6.14... |
| 20:34:35 | dtall | just a wild guess though... will check out 2.6.12 for more data |
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| 20:35:35 | Rob2222 | Slasheri: Have you flashed RB into the flash? |
| 20:38:00 | Slasheri | Rob2222: yes, i have had it a long time in there.. :) |
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| 20:38:29 | Slasheri | i erased the iriver fw months ago |
| 20:38:39 | preglow | Slasheri: tagcache? :> |
| 20:38:48 | Moos | Slasheri: hehe lucky you |
| 20:38:48 | Slasheri | preglow: weekend :) |
| 20:38:50 | preglow | hehe |
| 20:38:53 | Slasheri | sorry, but no time for that now.. |
| 20:38:57 | preglow | no worries |
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| 20:44:06 | NightCat | Small question: if I need for ex. random of 1..4 then I have to do that: rb->rand()%4+1 ? |
| 20:44:41 | | Nick VeWt is now known as Kender (n=vewt@d36-13-104.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 20:44:55 | Kender | so does is this music player thing for ipods or something? |
| 20:46:01 | Bger | NightCat something simillar |
| 20:46:45 | Bger | btw, the rockbox's (pseudo)random algorithm is very good |
| 20:46:47 | preglow | music player what? |
| 20:47:02 | Rob2222 | Slasheri: Can you flash the iRiver back? BDM? |
| 20:48:03 | Bger | btw, the fdprintf etc. don't yield(), do they ? |
| 20:48:04 | NightCat | I try it and I think it works... But I need to know precisely... |
| 20:48:06 | preglow | Bger: it's a mersenne twister, it's more or less as good as you get, when it comes to pseudo random algorithms |
| 20:48:09 | Slasheri | Rob2222: yes, i can flash it back but i have no code for that currently. And no, i don't have a bdm.. so one needs to be careful :) |
| 20:48:13 | Paprica | linuxstb, sorry, the wps use the color patch too =\ |
| 20:49:26 | preglow | Slasheri: how did you flash it if you have no flashing code? you just used firmware file manipulation? |
| 20:49:45 | Bger | he *has* flashing code, afaik |
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| 20:49:53 | Slasheri | preglow: no, i have code to flash it from rockbox.. |
| 20:50:07 | Slasheri | but i just haven't bothered to parse the iriver fw and think how to flash it back |
| 20:50:10 | preglow | looks to me like you just said you don't have rockbox flashing code :> |
| 20:50:13 | preglow | right |
| 20:50:37 | Slasheri | :D |
| 20:50:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | He has no code to be flashed, rather than no code to flash with. Muddy sentence. |
| 20:52:14 | Paprica | mm |
| 20:52:14 | Paprica | cvs diff: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option |
| 20:52:14 | Paprica | cvs [diff aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable. |
| 20:52:15 | Paprica | ??? |
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| 20:53:12 | Mmmm | Petur: seen the new patch? |
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| 20:54:00 | Pi | Paprica: are you in the rockbox folder, it wont work if you are in a sub directory |
| 20:57:07 | Kender | well what are you guys making? |
| 20:57:15 | _FireFly_ | Pi it shouldn't matter if yiu are in a subdir |
| 20:57:46 | _FireFly_ | but you will get only a diff from the files in the subdir and from the subdirs in the subdir :) |
| 20:57:55 | Pi | i get that error when i am in the build folder |
| 20:58:27 | Bger | nite |
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| 21:00:17 | _FireFly_ | Pi because the build-dir isn't under cvs control :) |
| 21:00:22 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:00:24 | Paprica | grr not working |
| 21:00:25 | Paprica | =\ |
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| 21:04:45 | petur | Mmmm: seen my comments? :D |
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| 21:04:53 | Coolhawk | Anyone here knows how I can add a schematic to schematics section of Rockbox ? I've already registred and uploaded the schematic here : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NiclasNielsen, but I cant seem to figure out how to get that schemtic to schematic section of Rockbox |
| 21:06:58 | lostlogic | pcmbuf.c is graphed, onward! |
| 21:07:05 | Coolhawk | And btw, the little X5 is now fixed, changed Q7 and the 2 schottky diodes :) further info you'll find here : http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7015 in case you in the future end up with a burned charger unit on the X5 :) |
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| 21:08:36 | muesli__ | sweet mobo |
| 21:09:00 | muesli__ | i wonder why iriver doesnt use the same structure |
| 21:09:06 | preglow | Coolhawk: putting that link in the x5 wiki (i assume there is one) doesn't sound like a bad idea |
| 21:10:22 | Coolhawk | Yes, but theres also a section for schematics only, but cant figure out how to get that there, or is it only Linus who can do that ? |
| 21:10:32 | preglow | *shrug* |
| 21:10:51 | preglow | if it turns out to be half as common a hardware failure as for h1x0, it'd be worth it at any rate |
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| 21:14:06 | XavierGr | Quick question> Can the international H300 be charged from USB? |
| 21:14:53 | Rob2222 | sure |
| 21:15:06 | Rob2222 | iriver fw at least |
| 21:15:09 | Rob2222 | why? |
| 21:15:41 | XavierGr | My cousin just got one and the charger is with a UK outlet. |
| 21:15:53 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 21:16:01 | XavierGr | He is desperate to use it today... |
| 21:16:01 | Rob2222 | dont let the unit go empty |
| 21:16:06 | petur | USB charging will be sloooow |
| 21:16:17 | Rob2222 | petur: Why? |
| 21:16:25 | petur | loooow current |
| 21:16:30 | XavierGr | petur I know |
| 21:16:44 | Rob2222 | petur? |
| 21:16:47 | XavierGr | I have made a USB cradle for my h100 and charging from USB is slow |
| 21:16:55 | Rob2222 | AC has ca 650mA, USB high mode ca 450mA |
| 21:17:15 | Rob2222 | not that big difference |
| 21:17:55 | Rob2222 | thats ca. 2h vs 3h at 1400mA battery |
| 21:18:04 | XavierGr | ACin H100 is rated at 2A |
| 21:18:30 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: But the charge cip at H300 only charges with 650mA ca. |
| 21:18:34 | Rob2222 | chip |
| 21:18:35 | Rob2222 | :p |
| 21:18:37 | Rob2222 | *duck* |
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| 21:18:59 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: If the H300 is complete empty you cant charge with USB afaik. So prevent this, |
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| 21:19:12 | San | hey |
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| 21:19:37 | San | good work on the wps linusN and psyche |
| 21:20:07 | linuxstb | Paprica: Still having cvs problems? |
| 21:20:39 | Paprica | mm i cant patch with the cvs |
| 21:20:42 | Paprica | dont know why |
| 21:21:21 | linuxstb | Are you working with a copy of the source checked out from CVS, or a source tarball? |
| 21:21:54 | Paprica | source from tar |
| 21:22:03 | linuxstb | That's why it won't work. |
| 21:22:24 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: <LinusN> ok, RCP is 100k, giving Ibat(max)=0.65 (<= for the LX2201 charging chip) |
| 21:22:34 | linuxstb | You need to check out a clean copy of the code from CVS, then apply your changes to that copy, then do "cvs diff" |
| 21:23:09 | Paprica | ok |
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| 21:23:26 | Rob2222 | And the typical LX2201 USB HIGH current is 463mA |
| 21:23:51 | Rob2222 | So USB should be sooo much slower. |
| 21:24:01 | Paprica | linuxstb, why the colobmp dont commit to the cvs? |
| 21:24:29 | XavierGr | Rob is there a way to take ampere consumption from the iriver. (Does the hardware let us do such thing) |
| 21:25:07 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: In Iriver FW settings: USB charging:on AND USB connection mode: desktop |
| 21:25:15 | Rob2222 | Then it charges via USB |
| 21:25:27 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: afaik no. |
| 21:25:36 | Rob2222 | not without external measurement |
| 21:25:54 | lostlogic | I wonder if it only charges in USB low speed mode ever... because it always seems to take a looong time |
| 21:25:54 | XavierGr | ah okay then |
| 21:25:55 | linuxstb | Paprica: I would guess that Linus isn't 100% happy with his patch, which is why he posted it to the patch tracker instead of committing it. And/or he wants other people to discuss it. |
| 21:26:17 | Paprica | k |
| 21:26:45 | dtall | Need to take myself offline - Router is smoking... I wish I was making this up... Back in a while when kernel 2.6.12 builds and I find a fire extinguisher |
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| 21:28:17 | XavierGr | router is smoking????? |
| 21:28:32 | XavierGr | Wow a lot of traffix he has... |
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| 21:28:52 | webguest10 | Hello Rockbox ! |
| 21:29:19 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: Do you think? Charging the internal H300 1400mA stock battery in low power mode would need 14h. |
| 21:29:27 | Rob2222 | Have you really charged 14h? |
| 21:30:59 | lostlogic | Rob2222: It's taken at least 8 |
| 21:31:00 | XavierGr | How can one charge H300 from USB. Is there an option for it (iriver fw)? |
| 21:31:18 | * | Rob2222 wonder if the Accessory detection pin of the pcf50606 on the H300 is maybe used for detecting the different remotes ... |
| 21:31:24 | * | amiconn found an oold bug in the grayscale lib |
| 21:31:43 | Rob2222 | [21:26] Rob2222: XavierGr: In Iriver FW settings: USB charging:on AND USB connection mode: desktop |
| 21:31:52 | amiconn | gray_putsxy() would never have worked |
| 21:31:54 | Rob2222 | then insert usb cable |
| 21:32:29 | Rob2222 | but a 4,5V-6,0V AC adapter should work, too |
| 21:33:18 | * | amiconn now has a greyscale cube on archos :-) |
| 21:33:26 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: hmm, 8h for a full empty battery? |
| 21:33:36 | Rob2222 | complete empty |
| 21:34:10 | linuxstb | amiconn: Does it use greyscale on the irivers? |
| 21:34:24 | amiconn | Yes it does, but not the lib |
| 21:34:32 | lostlogic | Rob2222: I don't remember, I've only used it on rare occasions |
| 21:34:32 | webguest10 | lostlogic: did you plan to remove all unused code in playback like you said this weekend? |
| 21:34:36 | amiconn | 4 levels of grey are enough for cube.rock |
| 21:34:37 | linuxstb | That's what I meant to ask. |
| 21:34:55 | linuxstb | So we could give 6 colours to the colour cubes without problem? |
| 21:35:34 | lostlogic | webguest10: huh? don't remember saying that −− I'm working on fully understanding the interractions of the two playback threads so that I can trim down the interfaces and reduce the difficulty of working on it. |
| 21:35:56 | * | linuxstb reads cube.c and answers all his own questions... |
| 21:36:06 | * | preglow wishes lostlogic the very best of luck |
| 21:36:16 | preglow | and please make your results available on the wiki :) |
| 21:36:42 | webguest10 | lostlogic: don't remenber exactly but speaked about some asm or something... I'm checking the saturday log |
| 21:37:25 | lostlogic | preglow: I'll pdf and post my drawings when I'm done... |
| 21:38:01 | lostlogic | webguest10: I was basically trying to trim down the number of instructions generated in the DMA interrupt handler so that it would take less time |
| 21:38:17 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 21:38:25 | webguest10 | That souds really good |
| 21:38:38 | webguest10 | good luck in this laborous task |
| 21:38:49 | lostlogic | but I've gotten sidetracked, because one of my attempts to do caused a weird bug and that means that I don't understand the code well enough, so I'm drawing ;) |
| 21:38:59 | amiconn | linuxstb: I have it working, but currently cube.rock uses the grayscale lib for *all* modes on archos. (solid, hidden line, and wireframe) |
| 21:39:24 | webguest10 | lostlogic: maybe Slasheri could help you? since it's his engine |
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| 21:39:44 | lostlogic | webguest10: he has, and will continue to, I'm sure |
| 21:39:47 | amiconn | Maybe it's better to switch between the gfx libs when switching modes, using the grayscale lib for solid display only |
| 21:40:36 | amiconn | This is a good speed test for the grayscale lib... |
| 21:40:37 | webguest10 | lostlogic: buena suerte ;) |
| 21:40:56 | lostlogic | gracias |
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| 21:43:09 | webguest10 | good buy Rockbox |
| 21:43:28 | webguest10 | the best firmware in the world |
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| 21:46:31 | Paprica | linuxstb, can you check my patch? |
| 21:46:32 | Paprica | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1413195&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 21:49:05 | linuxstb | Paprica: When you say "width", I think you mean to say "margin". So if you specify %pb|10|4 then the progress bar has a height of 10 pixels, and a 4-pixel margin on both the left and right sides? |
| 21:49:34 | Paprica | yep |
| 21:49:42 | Paprica | sorry for the bad english |
| 21:49:42 | Paprica | =] |
| 21:50:10 | amiconn | I would like the default behaviour of the progressbar to be changed as well. It should adapt to the font height, like the peakmeter does |
| 21:52:32 | Rob2222 | Lostlogic, XavierGr, petur: I must excuse me. I saw that there is a resistor at the LX2201 that is used to set the USB high current. So I'm not 100% sure that the H300 i charging in USB high mode with 460mA. |
| 21:53:13 | Rob2222 | Anyone here with a open H300 and a Multimeter? |
| 21:54:15 | petur | Mmmm: are you reading here? |
| 21:54:15 | muesli__ | Rob2222 yes..tell me what to do |
| 21:56:16 | Mmmm | Petur: havn't been watching..did something exciting happen? been looking at your comments.. thanks! :) as you said... nearly there! :D |
| 21:56:35 | petur | I'm changing your patch atm |
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| 21:56:45 | petur | if that's ok with you |
| 21:56:59 | petur | saw some small issues |
| 21:57:09 | Mmmm | sure... |
| 21:57:24 | petur | will attach it to your SF entry later |
| 21:57:29 | Mmmm | it's your patch too after all! :) |
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| 22:00:09 | Mmmm | I've addressed all your comments except "implement the combined L+R gain setting for the other targets. |
| 22:00:24 | Mmmm | bit scared of other targets! :D |
| 22:00:33 | * | preglow vanishes |
| 22:01:03 | Mmmm | also they dont seem to have digital gain...is that right? |
| 22:01:27 | petur | Mmmm: doing that now... (btw, it wasn't building anymore for other targets) |
| 22:01:44 | Mmmm | really! oops.... |
| 22:03:09 | Mmmm | what was stopping it building? |
| 22:03:51 | petur | setting left and right digital gain equal was outside the #ifdef UDA1380 |
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| 22:04:37 | Mmmm | ahh....heh heh... |
| 22:05:40 | Mmmm | so it works if you move the #endif ? |
| 22:06:18 | petur | haven't checked, am doing some more tidying ;) |
| 22:07:13 | Mmmm | ahhh... I'm not sure what I mean by tidying either :D |
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| 22:09:30 | Mmmm | Nor does my GF! hee hee |
| 22:09:43 | petur | lol |
| 22:11:50 | ep0ch | in unix how do i mark a file as hidden (msdos style, not with a period at the beginning)? |
| 22:13:17 | linuxstb | I don't think you can. |
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| 22:13:54 | ep0ch | hmmm |
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| 22:24:16 | Mmmm | Petur: I assume you are not trying to call change_recording_gain for other targets are you? that would be a nightmare with all those digital conditionals... |
| 22:24:32 | petur | no no... |
| 22:24:39 | Mmmm | phew!.. :D |
| 22:24:41 | Rob2222 | After 5h iRiver FW MP3 playback (128kbit) my battery discharged from full to 3,98/3,96 V |
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| 22:25:39 | Mmmm | you're re-coding the #else parts of case REC_INC: then? |
| 22:26:03 | petur | almost done... |
| 22:26:15 | Rob2222 | With RB I was after 3h at the same voltage. ^^ |
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| 22:30:33 | __peer__ | hello |
| 22:30:35 | __peer__ | anyone here? |
| 22:30:54 | Bagder | nah, we're 90 bots |
| 22:31:09 | __peer__ | ok |
| 22:31:17 | __peer__ | is this the right place to ask questions about mp3 players? |
| 22:31:39 | Bagder | this is the right place for Rockbox |
| 22:31:47 | __peer__ | what is rockbox |
| 22:31:55 | Nibbler | :] |
| 22:31:57 | ehntoo | www.rockbox.org |
| 22:32:00 | ehntoo | educate yourself. |
| 22:32:17 | petur | and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome |
| 22:32:26 | Nibbler | __peer__: and buy a player that is supported by rockbox... |
| 22:32:41 | __peer__ | hmm |
| 22:33:00 | __peer__ | I'm tryin to choose between Iriver IFP-7xx and IAudio G3 |
| 22:34:23 | __peer__ | no ones have idea here? |
| 22:34:56 | Bagder | there's a rockbox port on the way for the ifp790 |
| 22:35:15 | Bagder | that's all I know about those |
| 22:36:12 | Paprica | mmm |
| 22:36:14 | Paprica | %?bl<%xda|%xdb|%xdc|%xdd|%xde|%xdf|%xdg|%xdh|%xdi> |
| 22:36:17 | Paprica | its too long? |
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| 22:38:45 | Mongey | im just wondering how to patch a file |
| 22:38:54 | Mongey | patch -p0 < patchfile is the command right? |
| 22:39:00 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:39:12 | Mongey | but where do i put the patch |
| 22:39:24 | Bagder | whereever |
| 22:39:39 | ep0ch| | lostlogic: i've tried your pcm_broken_enhancment patch, on the files i've tried i'm convinced it adds an extra 4-5% boost ratio |
| 22:40:19 | petur | Mmmm: decreasing from digital into analog range is not OK |
| 22:40:24 | lostlogic | ep0ch|: as in it makes it worse? that's... quite interesting |
| 22:40:31 | ep0ch| | yup |
| 22:40:41 | petur | it does negative digital gains :( |
| 22:40:54 | ep0ch| | i get the skipping problem too of course |
| 22:41:07 | Mmmm | Petur: you dont like that? |
| 22:41:21 | lostlogic | hmph, that's very very strange... I'll have to retest this evening. |
| 22:41:21 | Mongey | icals |
| 22:41:28 | Mongey | lol |
| 22:41:30 | Mongey | woops |
| 22:41:46 | ep0ch| | yeah i'll do some more testing as well |
| 22:41:46 | Mongey | icals |
| 22:41:50 | Mmmm | Petur:I did that originally to sort out the problems you got in micin when at limits |
| 22:41:56 | lostlogic | ep0ch|: I'll probably be doing some more drastic things to the audio arch (as my recent wiki edits suggest) any way. |
| 22:42:10 | Mmmm | Petur now we're not using stereo it's not necessary |
| 22:42:14 | lostlogic | ep0ch|: what kind of files, out of curiosity? |
| 22:42:28 | Lxy | is there any way to enable recording on an Archos Jukebox studio? |
| 22:42:36 | petur | Mmmm: I'll fix it then... |
| 22:42:42 | Mmmm | Petur: very easily changed! :) |
| 22:42:58 | ep0ch| | i tried a 67 kbps vorbis , 128 kbps vorbis and a 209 kbps mp3 |
| 22:43:41 | ep0ch| | when my sodding machine decides it will mount usb i will try again |
| 22:44:31 | lostlogic | ep0ch|: hehe, ok −− and you tested on identical code other than my patch? The noteable thing about those is they are significantly lower bitrate than my testfiles, but that _shouldn't_ matter in the area I was modifying. |
| 22:44:39 | Mmmm | Petur: just change "-1*ana_mic_size" type things to 0! |
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| 22:45:30 | ep0ch| | my build is current cvs without remote support and just your patch |
| 22:45:35 | petur | Mmmm: just spotted another bit that can be done easier.... sorry for taking over from you again ;) |
| 22:45:37 | ep0ch| | on ihp-120 |
| 22:45:47 | __peer__ | 256mb is enough ? |
| 22:46:03 | Mmmm | and the dig to ana_line_size...thats ok its what open source is all about! :D |
| 22:46:35 | lostlogic | ep0ch|: and you've tested those same songs w/o the patch for comparison? |
| 22:46:52 | ep0ch| | yup |
| 22:47:40 | ep0ch| | before the 67 kbps Vorbis was doing about 6.5% boost, with the patch it was doing about 13% |
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| 22:48:56 | lostlogic | ouch... my 226kbps vorbis test track on h340 went from 50% to 45%... this will require much more pondering. |
| 22:49:22 | ep0ch| | let me check again though... |
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| 22:55:18 | amiconn | w00t! It actually works :-) |
| 22:56:02 | lostlogic | amiconn: memset16? |
| 22:56:43 | amiconn | Not yet |
| 22:56:54 | amiconn | I decided to code something visible first :) |
| 22:57:02 | lostlogic | hehe, and the working thing is? |
| 22:57:11 | amiconn | Solid grayscale cube on archos |
| 22:57:40 | lostlogic | oooh! we'll have wolf3d on these things in no time... |
| 22:57:45 | amiconn | It even switches plain lcd -> grayscale lib for solid, and switches back to plain lcd for hidden line / wireframe |
| 22:58:07 | amiconn | Uses some function pointer structure magic |
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| 22:59:10 | amiconn | Well, it's a good test for the grayscale lib speed in buffered mode with low depth |
| 22:59:50 | Bagder | now we need the grayscale lib on the iriver remotes ;-P |
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| 23:00:00 | lostlogic | *nod* grayscale lib uses the ole' LCD flickering trick? |
| 23:00:14 | amiconn | Bagder: With the ticking fix enabled??? |
| 23:00:24 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:00:31 | Bagder | ah, I don't care about ticks I want cube! ;-) |
| 23:00:38 | amiconn | Argh! found a dependency glitch! |
| 23:01:32 | amiconn | lib[plugin]bitmaps[remote][mono/native] doesn't get rebuilt when new bitmaps are added |
| 23:02:06 | Mmmm | Petur: what did you find that could be done more easily? |
| 23:02:54 | petur | ah nothing.... |
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| 23:04:20 | Mmmm | heh heh...it didn't work then? |
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| 23:05:15 | petur | at least I understand your code completely now ;) |
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| 23:11:34 | Mmmm | :) |
| 23:12:09 | petur | did find a small bug tho... when switching up/down direction on certain values... testing the fix now... |
| 23:14:41 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, I noticed that dependency problem today as well. |
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| 23:18:17 | Mmmm | Petur: bedtime for me... look forward to seeing your patch tomorrow.... |
| 23:18:39 | petur | Mmmm: patch comming up in 15 minutes |
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| 23:18:53 | SFS_Guest_7782 | i was just thinking it would be totally rad if one of the items on the 'quick menu' was something like the iriver firmware's study mode, where you could enable that joystick-right or -left skipped forward by N minutes in the track |
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| 23:19:02 | thegeek | rad? |
| 23:19:03 | thegeek | hehe |
| 23:19:12 | textchimp | yeah, RAD |
| 23:19:19 | thegeek | :P |
| 23:20:10 | textchimp | try and tell me that wouldn't be utterly AWESOME |
| 23:21:21 | ep0ch| | lostlogic: my 209 kbps Vorbis track needed about 3% more boost with the patch too :( |
| 23:21:45 | lostlogic | ep0ch|: hmph, very interesting. thanks for the feedback. |
| 23:22:06 | ep0ch| | no worries, i'm always happy to help where i can |
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| 23:23:02 | __peer__ | hello |
| 23:23:07 | __peer__ | anyone knows about birds here? |
| 23:23:11 | ep0ch| | looking at boost ratio isnt exactly the most scientific way of testing though :s |
| 23:23:55 | ep0ch| | aint that right preglow ;) |
| 23:24:32 | Bagder | __peer__: welcome to #rockbox, we talk Rockbox here |
| 23:24:41 | __peer__ | what is rockbox |
| 23:24:51 | Bagder | you already got a link |
| 23:24:59 | __peer__ | hm |
| 23:25:09 | Bagder | www.rockbox.org |
| 23:25:52 | __peer__ | can't find there answer |
| 23:26:02 | __peer__ | what is rockbox. |
| 23:26:05 | Bagder | then read it again |
| 23:26:10 | XavierGr | falternate firmware for mp3 players |
| 23:26:14 | XavierGr | r/f |
| 23:26:18 | __peer__ | Rockbox is an Open Source replacement firmware |
| 23:26:26 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:26:27 | XavierGr | that's right |
| 23:26:28 | __peer__ | replacement firmware which does what |
| 23:26:38 | petur | play music? |
| 23:26:43 | ep0ch| | nothing to do with birds |
| 23:26:46 | Bagder | it replaces the firmware of the mp3 players |
| 23:26:55 | __peer__ | and makes them better? |
| 23:27:04 | Bagder | vastly |
| 23:27:07 | XavierGr | __peer__: what you think? worse? |
| 23:27:08 | Rondom | yes, of course! |
| 23:27:38 | __peer__ | so.. |
| 23:27:44 | XavierGr | __peer__: How did you come to this site in the first place, anyway? |
| 23:27:49 | __peer__ | google |
| 23:27:58 | __peer__ | mp3 players irc channel |
| 23:28:00 | XavierGr | what did you searched for? |
| 23:28:06 | __peer__ | "mp3 players irc channel" |
| 23:28:16 | Bagder | hehe |
| 23:28:19 | XavierGr | ah weel it is a valid search. |
| 23:29:20 | __peer__ | seems that the only channel about mp3 players |
| 23:29:34 | lostlogic | ep0ch|: I haven't gotten up the gumption to try profiling the audio thread yet |
| 23:29:54 | petur | does that explain the 90 users? :D |
| 23:30:36 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 23:30:40 | XavierGr | __peer__: What do you want to discuss. You need a new mp3 player? |
| 23:30:49 | Bagder | petur: we'll soon be down to 7 ;-) |
| 23:31:10 | __peer__ | yea |
| 23:31:10 | Bagder | now when the truth is revealed |
| 23:31:17 | __peer__ | <__peer__> I'm tryin to choose between Iriver IFP-7xx and IAudio G3 |
| 23:31:22 | XavierGr | __peer__: If yes then make sure it is rockbox comaptible. |
| 23:31:57 | ep0ch| | lostlogic: well there was talk a while back of having audio output writting to disk to time decoding speed. i guess it got forgotten. |
| 23:32:02 | XavierGr | I would choose the ifp because it is more close to rockbox, though don't hold your beath for it |
| 23:33:12 | __peer__ | It actually IFP-790 256mb or IAudio G3 512mb which costs 50% more. |
| 23:33:16 | linuxstb | __peer__: You can visit http://www.misticriver.net (for iriver) or http://www.iaudiophile.net (for iaudio). Find out what the users complain about. |
| 23:34:06 | __peer__ | I did, it just made it harder to decide. |
| 23:34:13 | __peer__ | each of them have disadventages |
| 23:34:34 | petur | yeah, like not enough storage ;) |
| 23:34:46 | __peer__ | I dont need much storage |
| 23:34:50 | linuxstb | Get an ipod Nano. You'll soon be able to use Rockbox on it. |
| 23:34:56 | __peer__ | 256mb can store about 60 in 192kbps right? |
| 23:35:04 | __peer__ | *60 songs |
| 23:35:25 | __peer__ | Ipod nano costs alot here. |
| 23:35:35 | ep0ch| | i wonder when apple will put wifi in their ipods... |
| 23:36:10 | ep0ch| | hopefully the g6 :) |
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| 23:37:14 | Bagder | there was this rumour saying their next model would have bluetooth support |
| 23:37:26 | ep0ch| | blurrrr |
| 23:38:30 | ep0ch| | i think wifi in a dap would be seriously useful |
| 23:38:37 | Bagder | for what? |
| 23:38:57 | Bagder | doesn't wifi require a whole lot of power? |
| 23:39:11 | textchimp | are there any plans for a 'study mode' type thing in the iriver rockbox? i.e. skipping by N seconds/minutes at a time? |
| 23:39:25 | ep0ch| | streaming music from the internet, downloading from itunes (if thats what you like) direct, network storage device |
| 23:39:39 | Domonoky | hm.. i have problems with porting brickmania to h1x0.. |
| 23:39:43 | Bagder | textchimp: there are not many "plans" in this project, people work on things they feel like |
| 23:40:28 | Domonoky | foreground and background color seems to influence with 2bit Bitmap drawing.. |
| 23:40:52 | Domonoky | and the ball moves so fast, its invisible on h1x0.. :-/ |
| 23:42:14 | Rondom | __peer__: I own an ifp-899 and I'm quite content with it |
| 23:42:39 | Rondom | the ifp-8xx players and the ifp-7xx are the same. They only look different |
| 23:43:48 | linuxstb | Domonoky: I've always thought brickmania was a little too easy to play. Sounds like you've fixed that problem. |
| 23:44:01 | Domonoky | jeah.. :-) |
| 23:44:23 | Rondom | __peer__: the ogg-bitrate limit can be annoying |
| 23:44:28 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Are you using the greyscale lib? |
| 23:44:35 | Domonoky | no.. |
| 23:44:53 | Domonoky | i tried.. but the images were garbage. |
| 23:45:06 | Rondom | how was the guy who is working on an ifp-7xx/8xx called again? |
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| 23:48:29 | Bagder | thomasl |
| 23:48:52 | Bagder | tomal even |
| 23:49:01 | Bagder | Tomasz Malesinski |
| 23:50:50 | * | amiconn wonders what the build system is doing |
| 23:51:22 | Bagder | it's that time of day |
| 23:51:26 | linuxstb | Having a tea-break? It's been busy recently. |
| 23:51:54 | amiconn | Bagder: No, I mean why it does rebuild twice although both commits already went into the first rebuild? |
| 23:52:55 | Bagder | perhaps they didn't and you're just seeing a minor flaw in the cvs output |
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| 23:57:59 | amiconn | Bagder: 38 seconds difference between both commits... |
| 23:58:20 | Bagder | yes, and it checks for diffs with a 60 second interval |
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