| 00:00:05 | t0mas | SDRAM = 0x30000000 |
| 00:00:11 | t0mas | 0x10000000 is IRAM |
| 00:00:16 | Bagder | ah, iram |
| 00:00:45 | amiconn | (3) allows to distribute speech generated by the engine saved as a file, but the limitation refers to "speech synthesized from text provided by someone other than You by the Software" |
| 00:00:46 | Bagder | wiki page is goodness ;-) |
| 00:00:50 | t0mas | jup |
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| 00:00:51 | t0mas | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioPort |
| 00:01:07 | amiconn | The "text provided by someone other than you" seems to be a key |
| 00:01:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, yes. |
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| 00:01:31 | t0mas | that might be a problem |
| 00:02:13 | t0mas | but hey... is it really is... we'll setup a "suggest text to Jens" page... and make you copy/paste all the text. |
| 00:02:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wonder what the definition of "provided by" is |
| 00:02:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, basically text "provided by you" should be any text you "own" or otherwise have the right to reproduce. |
| 00:03:01 | amiconn | Hmm that's not the one I quoted above. The latter doesn't limit the input text |
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| 00:03:45 | t0mas | hm |
| 00:03:49 | webguest58 | t0mas: aha.. yes.. |
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| 00:04:03 | | Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:04:04 | t0mas | good night |
| 00:04:05 | | Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) |
| 00:04:39 | preglow | but ok |
| 00:04:41 | preglow | bedtime |
| 00:04:45 | preglow | night |
| 00:05:20 | Rob2222_ | I just ordered a new digital camera. :( |
| 00:05:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Well, the first step would be clarifying to them that the license was purchased, and then asking in exactly what way the license is being violated. Trying to interpret it is somewhat of a losing battle anyway. |
| 00:05:30 | lostlogic | Rob2222_: why is that a sadness? |
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| 00:05:55 | Rob2222_ | I purchased the same camera 1 month ago for 285 Euro _) |
| 00:06:26 | lostlogic | Rob2222_: what'd you do to it? The one your mom killed with the wrong power adapter? |
| 00:06:26 | Rob2222_ | Then my girldfriend has let the camera fallen down |
| 00:06:40 | Rob2222_ | no |
| 00:06:46 | lostlogic | ah, heh that sucks |
| 00:06:53 | Rob2222_ | A Sony DSC-P200 |
| 00:06:57 | Rob2222_ | fallen 50cm |
| 00:07:10 | Rob2222_ | on the carpet |
| 00:07:18 | lostlogic | what broke? |
| 00:07:25 | Rob2222_ | normally that shouldn cause damage |
| 00:07:33 | Rob2222_ | but cause murphys law |
| 00:07:47 | Rob2222_ | the camera hit the carpet exact at the optics |
| 00:08:00 | Rob2222_ | repair by sony: 400 Euro |
| 00:08:07 | Rob2222_ | new cam: 285 Euro |
| 00:08:14 | lostlogic | that's sucky |
| 00:08:29 | Rob2222_ | And I have pretty less money atm. |
| 00:08:46 | Rob2222_ | Borrowed 200 Euro from my mother for it. |
| 00:08:52 | Rob2222_ | wel.. |
| 00:08:57 | Rob2222_ | life is bad |
| 00:10:12 | Rob2222_ | same "luck" with my H3x0 battery. |
| 00:10:13 | spiralout | hi can someone explain why the patch from xaviergr for the jpegviewer is broken? ...with this patch you can browse jepgs without leaving the viewer by pressin a button... |
| 00:11:14 | spiralout | its not since the plugin structure redesign ...it´s since a few days later ...:-/ |
| 00:11:22 | Rob2222_ | buyed, only "1666mA" instead of "2200". Decided to sell it at ebay. Put into eBay. Now I recognized, that the battery capacity begins to rise. Come home. Battery sold. |
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| 00:12:41 | lostlogic | spiralout: you sayin' the patch doesn't apply/work right? |
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| 00:13:13 | spiralout | yes is isnt working anymore |
| 00:13:32 | muesli__ | Rob2222 your bat-capacity is rising? how comes? |
| 00:13:59 | lostlogic | spiralout: if so the only one who knows is xaviergr |
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| 00:14:44 | Rob2222_ | Its normal that the capacity rises after the first charge/discharge cycles. I only didnt knew, if its the same for LI-POLY. And it looks like it is so. |
| 00:14:47 | spiralout | i´m not sure because i´m using a combination of it ...look here http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=31986 ...i can still open a jpeg but can´t browse.. |
| 00:14:57 | spiralout | hmm xavier isn´t around right? |
| 00:15:11 | Rob2222_ | not atm |
| 00:15:49 | spiralout | has xavier still a h1xx? |
| 00:16:10 | spiralout | or has he upgraded ;) |
| 00:16:24 | Rob2222_ | hadt he sayed somthing from ordering a H300? |
| 00:16:28 | Rob2222_ | but im not sure. |
| 00:17:16 | spiralout | oh so maybe he ins´t interested anymore... k i come back when xaviegr is online ...thank you |
| 00:17:54 | Rob2222_ | im not sure |
| 00:17:56 | Rob2222_ | really dont know. |
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| 00:29:02 | JdGordon | morning all |
| 00:29:41 | Moos | Hello! |
| 00:30:09 | Moos | 00:30 here in Paris |
| 00:30:34 | JdGordon | 10.30 here and i just got out of bed :D |
| 00:30:42 | Moos | hehe :) |
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| 00:31:39 | lostlogic | wow, this place is ridiculously worldwide. 17:30here |
| 00:32:03 | Moos | Welcome to Rockbox world :) |
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| 00:33:22 | JdGordon | preglow: still around? |
| 00:35:29 | Moos | 00.04.41 # <preglow> bedtime |
| 00:35:29 | Moos | 00.04.45 # <preglow> night |
| 00:35:49 | JdGordon | 25min ago? |
| 00:35:57 | Moos | yep |
| 00:36:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: You're in the same timezone as me, then. |
| 00:36:01 | JdGordon | bugger |
| 00:36:17 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: am in Chicago |
| 00:36:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Austin |
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| 00:37:37 | lostlogic | only been to texas once... to pick up a car I bought on Ebay :) |
| 00:37:43 | amiconn | JdGordon: You want to draw filled triangles in a plugin? |
| 00:37:55 | JdGordon | ye, i figured it out |
| 00:37:57 | amiconn | Check the plugin library, it already has what you need |
| 00:38:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: I'd say, count yourself lucky. I've been to Chicago once, to see my uncle in a powerboat race. |
| 00:38:20 | JdGordon | it does? i couldnt see it.. |
| 00:38:51 | amiconn | apps/plugins/lib/xlcd.c: xlcd_filltriangle() |
| 00:39:01 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: You don't like where you live? |
| 00:39:11 | amiconn | cube.c uses it |
| 00:39:22 | JdGordon | grr. ok, ta |
| 00:39:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Generally speaking, I'm not a fan of the rest of the state. |
| 00:39:37 | lostlogic | haha. |
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| 00:40:56 | JdGordon | what does rb->lcd_roll() do? |
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| 00:41:46 | amiconn | JdGordon: Currently nothing on iriver. |
| 00:41:53 | JdGordon | k |
| 00:42:16 | amiconn | On archos, it uses a hardware feature of the lcd to roll the whole display without retransferring framebuffer data |
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| 00:43:34 | amiconn | This feature is also present in the iriver lcd controllers, but not yet 'wired', and I don't know whether it's possible to provide it in a seamless way |
| 00:44:52 | amiconn | E.g. the H1x0 lcd controller allows for more lines than present in the lcd panel, so rolling the content might lead to a part of the rolled content to be invisible |
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| 00:58:38 | webguest58 | t0mas: still around? |
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| 03:02:37 | Jungti1234 | hi] |
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| 03:04:42 | Jungti1234 | everybody sleep? |
| 03:05:32 | BHSPitLappy | yup |
| 03:05:44 | linuxstb_ | Not quite... |
| 03:06:00 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 03:06:19 | BHSPitLappy | hey linuxstb_ , I got a weird thing when trying to build the nano bootloader |
| 03:06:24 | BHSPitLappy | like, Out of memory! |
| 03:06:33 | linuxstb_ | With cygwin? |
| 03:06:37 | BHSPitLappy | but I can build 5G loaders till the cows come home |
| 03:06:38 | BHSPitLappy | yes |
| 03:06:45 | Jungti1234 | What function does 'Queue shuffled' do? |
| 03:07:04 | linuxstb_ | I've heard people report that with Perl under Cygwin before. The Rockbox build system uses some Perl scripts. |
| 03:07:15 | BHSPitLappy | Jungti1234: adds them to the queue, in shuffled order? |
| 03:07:29 | Jungti1234 | Random song reservation? |
| 03:07:38 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb_: but a distinction between nano and 5G? |
| 03:07:51 | linuxstb_ | No idea.... |
| 03:07:58 | linuxstb_ | Was it Perl or something else giving the error? |
| 03:09:17 | BHSPitLappy | dun' think so... |
| 03:09:38 | linuxstb_ | I blame your cygwin installation. |
| 03:09:53 | BHSPitLappy | ha |
| 03:10:04 | linuxstb_ | Do you need a copy of the nano bootloader? |
| 03:10:09 | BHSPitLappy | nope |
| 03:10:15 | linuxstb_ | No problem then :) |
| 03:10:19 | BHSPitLappy | got the one you sent a while back |
| 03:10:36 | BHSPitLappy | digging through pages and pages of IRC log sucks |
| 03:10:39 | linuxstb_ | I don't think it's changed. |
| 03:11:05 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb_: it's always nice to be able to build... slight modifications, whatnot |
| 03:11:16 | BHSPitLappy | my nano hasn't been able to turn on for a few hours :S |
| 03:14:03 | BHSPitLappy | this makes me cry |
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| 03:18:30 | BHSPitLappy | how many lines can I paste here, linuxstb_ ? |
| 03:18:35 | BHSPitLappy | standard 3-4? |
| 03:19:13 | BHSPitLappy | OBJCOPY /home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/bootnano/bootloader/bootloader.elf |
| 03:19:14 | BHSPitLappy | Build bootloader file |
| 03:19:14 | BHSPitLappy | out of memory! |
| 03:19:14 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK BHSPitLappy |
| 03:19:14 | BHSPitLappy | make[1]: *** [/home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/bootnano/rockbox.ipod] Error 255 |
| 03:21:45 | linuxstb_ | Sounds odd. Have you rebooted your PC recently. |
| 03:22:27 | linuxstb_ | If you type "make V=1" then that will be more verbose and tell you exactly which command fails. |
| 03:22:49 | BHSPitLappy | I guess I'm not too worried about it this instant |
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| 07:00:11 | JamesKerridge | I have nearly finished writing my first plugin game for rockbox and I am getting an error when I exit the plugin. Can any one give me some ideas on how to track it down. |
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| 07:03:59 | JamesKerridge | The error I get is: I00: at 00035924 |
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| 07:33:40 | Jaykay | Hi I am getting an error when I I exit my plugin. It has been a while since I coded in C. Can anyone give me some pointers? The error I get is I00: at 00035924 |
| 07:34:06 | Jaykay | No pun intended with the pointers :) |
| 07:37:19 | JdGordon | is there any idea oof "colours" on the h1x0? |
| 07:38:56 | Jaykay | Not sure if the H1x0 has a colour LCD. I have only used the H300. |
| 07:39:34 | JdGordon | no its only b+w, but does it do any greyscale or something? |
| 07:42:13 | Bger_ | morning :) |
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| 07:43:04 | JdGordon | gmorning |
| 07:45:14 | ashridah | JdGordon: there is grayscale. |
| 07:45:31 | ashridah | JdGordon: basically 4 shades total |
| 07:45:45 | Jaykay | Not sure i'm afraid. |
| 07:46:30 | ashridah | Jaykay: i'm not sure what I00 is, but i'd look through the memory maps and find out what address 00035924 corresponds to (should help you determine which function it was in) |
| 07:46:57 | JdGordon | ashridah: where r they defined? |
| 07:47:08 | ashridah | they're generated by the compilation process |
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| 07:47:39 | JdGordon | the colours? |
| 07:48:12 | JdGordon | screw it.. ill take colours out for the shitty lcd screens |
| 07:49:08 | Bger_ | JdGordon what plugin are you writing ? |
| 07:49:32 | JdGordon | this stupid timetable viewer which u all must be sick of hearing about :D its finished, just porting it to other players now |
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| 07:53:19 | Bger_ | timetable ? |
| 07:53:27 | JdGordon | uni/school timetable |
| 07:53:35 | Bger_ | ahaa:) |
| 07:53:38 | Bger_ | k |
| 07:57:03 | JdGordon | haha.. looks soo much better on the h300 than on the h100 :D |
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| 07:58:49 | JdGordon | any1 with a h100 or h300 wanna test it out? |
| 07:58:55 | Jaykay2 | Sorry about that my laptop decided to hibernate. The plugin is a yahtzee game for 1 or 2 players. |
| 07:59:23 | Jaykay2 | I have an H300. Just logged in what would I be testing out? |
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| 08:12:38 | Bger_ | JdGordon ? |
| 08:12:49 | JdGordon | ? |
| 08:13:00 | Bger_ | h300 tester ? |
| 08:13:29 | JdGordon | not reaaly tester.. just have a play, see how u like it... if its useable.. |
| 08:14:11 | JdGordon | ill put em online.. 1 sec |
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| 08:16:52 | JdGordon | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/timetable.zip |
| 08:17:06 | JdGordon | u need to add it to the viewers.config file (ive included an example file |
| 08:18:21 | JdGordon | i got 3 minor stupid bugs (which dont really need to be fixed) and ill upload the source somewhere |
| 08:21:00 | Bger_ | k |
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| 08:26:55 | Bger_ | JdGordon looks promising :) |
| 08:26:57 | Bger_ | buut |
| 08:27:21 | JdGordon | no butts :D |
| 08:27:38 | Bger_ | haha |
| 08:27:46 | Bger_ | if you want to make it really usefull... |
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| 08:28:39 | JdGordon | .. |
| 08:28:45 | JdGordon | jungti1234: http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/timetable.zip |
| 08:28:46 | jungti1234 | hi |
| 08:28:53 | jungti1234 | :D |
| 08:29:23 | JdGordon | Bger_: i dont... but lets say i did...? |
| 08:30:27 | Bger_ | don't fix the time interval ot 1 hour... |
| 08:30:59 | Bger_ | s/ot/at |
| 08:31:19 | JdGordon | i know :( problem is because we dont have dynamic memory its too hard... |
| 08:31:40 | Bger_ | JdGordon can i see the source ? |
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| 08:31:49 | JdGordon | sure.. 1 min |
| 08:32:16 | JdGordon | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/timetable.c |
| 08:32:52 | Bger | windows... :) |
| 08:32:58 | JdGordon | i mean, it could be done... but there would be a hard limit on how many items it can store... and updating the screen would be slower |
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| 08:34:00 | Bger | first (stupid) note ... use only C-style comments |
| 08:34:36 | JdGordon | ye, i saw that in the docs/contribute last night.. but annoying.. ill fix that some other time |
| 08:35:04 | Bger | yes, annoying, but ... :) |
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| 08:35:23 | jungti1234 | hm JdGordon |
| 08:35:54 | Bger | JdGordon why u're doing the triangles in software ? |
| 08:36:03 | Bger | i mean, why don't u use bitmaps :P |
| 08:36:26 | JdGordon | Bger: i could do every 15min.. but the the struct array would be around the 350kb range, and i dont know how big it is allowed untill rb chucks a shi trying to load it |
| 08:36:33 | JdGordon | so it can be done on any lcd size |
| 08:36:53 | jungti1234 | pm, am doesn't need. |
| 08:36:58 | jungti1234 | 00~23 |
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| 08:37:12 | * | JdGordon likes pm/am |
| 08:37:19 | jungti1234 | me too but |
| 08:37:24 | Bger | JdGordon option :) |
| 08:37:30 | jungti1234 | um.. |
| 08:37:32 | jungti1234 | yes |
| 08:37:34 | jungti1234 | option |
| 08:37:43 | JdGordon | .. |
| 08:37:49 | Bger | :D |
| 08:38:36 | JdGordon | jungti1234: have u got the clock set to 24hour or 12hour? |
| 08:38:49 | jungti1234 | 24 |
| 08:39:30 | jungti1234 | Before I talk with here people, 12 hours were convenient. |
| 08:40:00 | jungti1234 | But, here people used 24hour. |
| 08:40:02 | Bger | JdGordon u should check for USB ... |
| 08:41:00 | JdGordon | ..done |
| 08:41:11 | jungti1234 | hmm |
| 08:41:27 | Bger | haha:) |
| 08:41:31 | Bger | u're quick |
| 08:41:56 | jungti1234 | Can't rockbox input ':' and ';'? |
| 08:42:23 | Bger | one silly note |
| 08:42:35 | Bger | int t = rb->kbd_input(events[day][hour].desc,512)+1;// stupid thing returns 0 on success and -1 on abort! |
| 08:42:35 | Bger | if (t) |
| 08:42:41 | JdGordon | on and up|down jumps the time by a whole screen... usefull for the h100's with no RTC :D |
| 08:43:20 | Bger | huh never mind |
| 08:43:26 | JdGordon | Bger: ye, thats ok, the +1 makes it so 0 on fail and 1 on ok |
| 08:43:45 | Bger | yep, i know, but you could use !t with the same success |
| 08:43:58 | JdGordon | smarty pants :p |
| 08:44:13 | JdGordon | that was done at like midnight when i was well and truly asleep |
| 08:44:44 | Bger | just noticing |
| 08:45:29 | jungti1234 | JdGordon |
| 08:45:46 | JdGordon | yo? |
| 08:47:04 | jungti1234 | I can't express. |
| 08:47:18 | JdGordon | :) try |
| 08:47:25 | jungti1234 | I don't know English... :( |
| 08:48:22 | JdGordon | point, make hang gestures and talk loudly :D thats what us english speakers tend to do when we try comunicating in a wierd lang... |
| 08:49:02 | JdGordon | ok, got rid of the c++ comments, and the typedef... |
| 08:49:20 | jungti1234 | L on left does not need date. |
| 08:49:25 | jungti1234 | hm |
| 08:49:45 | jungti1234 | cell? |
| 08:50:17 | JdGordon | date? there is no date anywhere.. |
| 08:50:48 | jungti1234 | Day of the week |
| 08:51:10 | JdGordon | ? for sure it needs day of week to be displayed |
| 08:51:14 | jungti1234 | on the left |
| 08:51:19 | jungti1234 | partition |
| 08:51:50 | jungti1234 | don't need. |
| 08:52:05 | JdGordon | can u do a screenshot? im confuse |
| 08:52:06 | JdGordon | d |
| 08:52:20 | jungti1234 | ok.. |
| 08:53:19 | JdGordon | hmm... Bger, it likes ignooring button presses in the TIMETABLE_QUIT case at the bottom of the file... any ideas why or how to get round it?? (its the ask to save changes screen/...) |
| 08:58:13 | Bger | am ? |
| 08:58:40 | JdGordon | ? |
| 08:58:42 | JdGordon | brb |
| 08:59:09 | jungti1234 | Receive it. |
| 08:59:11 | preglow | JdGordon: you wanted me? |
| 08:59:40 | Bger | it ignores button presses ? |
| 08:59:47 | jungti1234 | JdGordon |
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| 09:00:14 | JdGordon | preglow: ye, i was gonna offer to do the boring integration for u today, but i missed u by 30min |
| 09:00:36 | jungti1234 | JdGordon: Receive it! |
| 09:00:49 | Bger | JdGordon strange |
| 09:01:02 | JdGordon | Bger: ye, it thinks you hit off twice so u miss the screen... (edit a time thingy press off to close and it should ask u to save) |
| 09:01:24 | jungti1234 | yeah |
| 09:01:26 | jungti1234 | :D |
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| 09:01:45 | JdGordon | meh, minor thing... |
| 09:02:05 | jungti1234 | -_-; |
| 09:03:08 | JdGordon | gone |
| 09:03:30 | jungti1234 | When end it, something sees. |
| 09:04:59 | JdGordon | ?? |
| 09:05:34 | jungti1234 | Blue letter on black background |
| 09:06:26 | JdGordon | ? when you quit? |
| 09:06:33 | jungti1234 | yes |
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| 09:07:27 | JdGordon | did u edit any times? |
| 09:08:04 | JdGordon | because it is probably the screen asking if u want to save changes which is ignoring the off button |
| 09:08:18 | preglow | JdGordon: well, it's still not to late! |
| 09:08:19 | preglow | heh |
| 09:08:32 | preglow | the eq routines themselves aren't ready, though |
| 09:08:46 | preglow | and i bet they wont be today either |
| 09:08:50 | preglow | no time |
| 09:11:10 | JdGordon | ok |
| 09:11:44 | Bger | ou, w8 |
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| 09:19:49 | JdGordon | tick tock... |
| 09:20:33 | jungti1234 | kk |
| 09:20:40 | preglow | basically, what you'll get is routines for enabling, setting center frequency, Q and gain for each band |
| 09:20:49 | preglow | so if you want to make the interface, you can just start |
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| 09:28:29 | JdGordon | OT... for the other aussies here... for aus day.. http://media.putfile.com/Adam-Hills-Aust-National-Anthem |
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| 09:34:27 | B4gder | nice article on lwn.net |
| 09:38:08 | Zagor | indeed |
| 09:40:41 | dwihno | erhm... has anyone been successful in booting linux off a usb-drive? |
| 09:41:09 | B4gder | yes |
| 09:41:18 | B4gder | ask google and you'll find lots |
| 09:41:38 | Bger | B4gder :P |
| 09:42:04 | dwihno | I think I've ran into a wall regarding umsdos snafu |
| 09:42:12 | dwihno | umsdos is a great thing btw |
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| 09:50:47 | preglow | is it, now |
| 09:52:34 | B4gder | funny then how I've never missed it ;-) |
| 09:53:07 | dwihno | A kernel with loadable modules for usb wouldn't work? |
| 09:53:25 | B4gder | dwihno: where would it load the modules from? |
| 09:54:30 | dwihno | True |
| 09:54:39 | * | dwihno = tired, old and grumpy ;) |
| 09:54:54 | dwihno | I just needed to hear that |
| 09:54:58 | * | B4gder hands dwihno a coffee *grande* |
| 09:55:23 | * | B4gder and runs off to get one too |
| 09:57:06 | dwihno | Damnit! Every single slackware kernel has config_usb=m :[ |
| 09:57:22 | Bger | build your own :) |
| 09:57:35 | B4gder | building your own is good for you |
| 09:57:48 | dwihno | How am I supposed to build one if I'm unable to boot it?! :) |
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| 10:01:15 | dwihno | aaaargh |
| 10:01:32 | dwihno | there is just the test26 kernel |
| 10:01:41 | dwihno | I guess that'll have to do. |
| 10:15:35 | Bger | do it |
| 10:16:06 | Bger | uf |
| 10:16:18 | dwihno | the bad thing is, I only have 1gb of flash to utilize :/ |
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| 10:18:41 | dwihno | what the fsck?! the 2.6-test has config_usb=y ... looking closer reveals config_usb_storage=m |
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| 10:19:17 | B4gder | so you have no linux now and only a usb-storage to boot from ? |
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| 10:20:04 | dwihno | well |
| 10:20:38 | dwihno | I have a disk as well |
| 10:21:08 | dwihno | I'll boot from a DOS-enabled usb-stick, format the disk (fat32), put the zipslack there, boot, configure kernel, build and then all should be go |
| 10:21:28 | dwihno | Swengrish! ;D |
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| 10:39:22 | linuxstb_ | Morning all. Do I understand correctly that with I2S, if the sending and receiving devices are configured to use different word lengths, then it's not a problem - the receiving device will compensate by either padding the samples with zero, or truncating? |
| 10:46:22 | preglow | no idea |
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| 10:53:44 | linuxstb_ | That's what I think is going on - which is making it impossible for me to tell if I'm actually transferring 24-bits of data or not to the ipod's dac. |
| 10:53:59 | preglow | don't you configure the dac yourself? |
| 10:54:31 | linuxstb_ | Yes, I can configure the DAC to be 16, 20, 24 or 32 bit. But I can do that without changing any other code, and it still works. |
| 10:54:41 | linuxstb_ | (IPL sets it to 16-bit). |
| 10:55:15 | linuxstb_ | I _think_ I'm correctly configuring the I2S to be 24-bit, but I want a way to confirm that. |
| 10:55:47 | preglow | hmm |
| 10:56:05 | preglow | well, i have no idea how to |
| 10:56:16 | preglow | the ipod adc is too poor for me to do any noisefloor measurement |
| 10:56:18 | preglow | dac |
| 10:56:40 | linuxstb_ | I suppose it proves that if I can't hear any difference compared with 16-bit, then it's a waste of time anyway. |
| 10:57:18 | linuxstb_ | I should probably code a proper listening test that switches between 16-bit and what I think is 24-bit, and find myself a good quality test file. |
| 10:57:23 | preglow | i wouldn't expect much of a difference, that's for sure |
| 10:57:31 | preglow | i think the dac noisefloor is around 90db |
| 10:59:34 | linuxstb_ | The datasheets I've found which closely resemble the WM8975 (both the WM8971 and WM8750) quote DAC SNR at 98dB. |
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| 11:05:44 | linuxstb_ | I'm also not sure how to handle the volume scale in Rockbox - the datasheets say the volume is from +6dB to -67dB (74 different integer dB values) in 80 steps. |
| 11:06:05 | linuxstb_ | So does that mean the user has 74 different volume settings, and I need to map those to the DAC's 80 steps? |
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| 11:07:13 | linuxstb | Or does the user have 80 volume settings, but some of them are displayed with the same dB value? |
| 11:09:52 | JdGordon | has any1 tried stx linux? |
| 11:11:02 | preglow | hmm |
| 11:11:23 | preglow | sounds weird |
| 11:11:52 | preglow | don't know, there a number of ways it might be solved |
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| 11:16:01 | muesli__ | high |
| 11:23:49 | LinusN | amiconn: u there? |
| 11:24:25 | LinusN | preglow: any eq progress? |
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| 11:29:20 | preglow | LinusN: having trouble ironing out some bugs after moving the code to target, and no more time to work on it, so no |
| 11:30:25 | LinusN | pity |
| 11:30:46 | preglow | see if i can spare a couple of hours later |
| 11:32:14 | LinusN | good |
| 11:32:37 | preglow | and then there's always performance issues |
| 11:32:52 | LinusN | of course |
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| 11:33:02 | LinusN | do you have an idea about how it will perform? |
| 11:33:05 | preglow | should be a pretty minimal innerloop, but we'll see |
| 11:33:22 | preglow | http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/eq_cf.S |
| 11:33:26 | preglow | you can see for yourself |
| 11:33:28 | LinusN | would be damn cool to have the eq core in cvs so we could work with it |
| 11:33:33 | preglow | that's per band |
| 11:33:36 | LinusN | i have seen it |
| 11:33:38 | preglow | okies |
| 11:33:46 | LinusN | looks pretty neat |
| 11:33:53 | preglow | very little memory access in the innerloop |
| 11:33:59 | preglow | one read, one write |
| 11:34:06 | LinusN | damn nice |
| 11:34:13 | preglow | and that buffer is almost always in iram, so it _should_ be fast |
| 11:34:15 | preglow | but we'll see |
| 11:34:33 | preglow | now, back to cozy c++ |
| 11:34:42 | LinusN | *almost* always in iram? |
| 11:35:19 | Rob2222_ | hi all |
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| 11:35:33 | preglow | LinusN: well, it depends on the codec, and whether audio is resampled |
| 11:35:38 | LinusN | ah yes |
| 11:35:40 | preglow | i think all codecs keep output in iram |
| 11:35:45 | preglow | and i also think resampling buffer is in iram |
| 11:36:13 | LinusN | and then copied to the sdram pcm output buffer |
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| 11:43:33 | Membrillo | hmmm a MR username by the name of Otto is offering to sell me his h340 harddrive and casing for $115 US. Im not sure wether I should trust him. All his MR posts have been about selling items and I don't know wether he will just scam me |
| 11:44:34 | muesli__ | he offered me the drive for 100$ |
| 11:44:51 | Membrillo | yeah same here |
| 11:44:55 | muesli__ | 100$ shipped if you still intrested |
| 11:44:55 | muesli__ | cheers |
| 11:44:56 | Membrillo | but 15 dollars postage |
| 11:44:57 | Slasheri | hmm, in finnish "otto" means taking away things ;) |
| 11:45:07 | muesli__ | lol |
| 11:45:15 | muesli__ | in german its just plain otto ;) |
| 11:45:16 | Bger | :D |
| 11:45:26 | Membrillo | do you think he would be legit? |
| 11:45:34 | Membrillo | he seems to be selling a lot of things... |
| 11:46:15 | muesli__ | dunno |
| 11:46:26 | muesli__ | he wrote 11posts only |
| 11:46:29 | Membrillo | thats a very cheap price.... |
| 11:46:32 | Membrillo | yeah |
| 11:46:35 | Membrillo | all about selling things |
| 11:46:41 | muesli__ | mmh |
| 11:47:48 | linuxstb | Membrillo: Read Febs' last post here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33430 |
| 11:47:56 | muesli__ | http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a78738.html |
| 11:47:57 | Membrillo | i think i did |
| 11:48:00 | linuxstb | Sounds like something odd is going on. |
| 11:48:01 | muesli__ | 4 a new one |
| 11:49:01 | Membrillo | veeery odd |
| 11:49:15 | Membrillo | i dont think dealing with this guy is a wise idea |
| 11:49:39 | Membrillo | pity he doesnt sound legit. exactly what i wanted at a good price |
| 11:50:41 | Membrillo | first he asked $300US for the entire unit. i didnt reply. later he pmed again selling the harddrive and casing alone for $100 US |
| 11:50:58 | linuxstb | If it was me, I would send Febs a PM at misticriver and ask his opinion about Otto, and why he closed that thread. |
| 11:51:06 | Membrillo | ok |
| 11:51:07 | Membrillo | i will |
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| 11:58:18 | muesli__ | Membrillo btw when you place your new hdd be sure to do it properly. i've probably bricked my drive cos the label wasnt pointing to the lcd |
| 11:58:43 | Membrillo | that was a silly thing to do |
| 11:58:52 | muesli__ | sure ;) |
| 11:58:56 | muesli__ | cost me 100e ;) |
| 11:58:56 | Membrillo | i didnt even know it would fit in upside down |
| 11:59:07 | muesli__ | its really easy to do it |
| 11:59:17 | muesli__ | you have to look very carefully |
| 11:59:24 | muesli__ | cos it fits in both directions |
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| 12:00:14 | Membrillo | yeah, ive taken mine out and put it back in before |
| 12:00:33 | Membrillo | i think mine came loose because my player was playing up. when i gave it a nudge it was ok |
| 12:02:10 | Rob2222 | muesli__: The drive only fits in 1 direction ^^ |
| 12:02:18 | muesli__ | nope |
| 12:02:24 | muesli__ | i did it i know it ;) |
| 12:02:38 | Membrillo | Rob2222: he means it will fit upside down |
| 12:02:42 | Rob2222 | i changed my drive, too |
| 12:03:03 | Rob2222 | mom |
| 12:03:42 | Rob2222 | http://lostlogicx.com/images/pics/iriver/p2070014.jpg |
| 12:03:51 | Rob2222 | the plastic pin down at the connector |
| 12:04:04 | Rob2222 | should prevent it, normally. |
| 12:04:18 | muesli__ | its possible..trust me |
| 12:04:21 | Rob2222 | hmm but ok, im not sure. |
| 12:04:34 | Rob2222 | yeah, with strong enough force all is possible:p |
| 12:04:37 | Rob2222 | *duck* |
| 12:04:43 | muesli__ | yepp :) |
| 12:04:54 | Rob2222 | Now the drive doesnt wok? |
| 12:04:57 | Rob2222 | work? |
| 12:05:13 | muesli__ | no..it got hot and doesnt start anymore |
| 12:05:19 | muesli__ | bricked to trash |
| 12:05:32 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 12:05:33 | muesli__ | i fool |
| 12:05:35 | muesli__ | ;) |
| 12:05:37 | Rob2222 | if it got hot ... |
| 12:05:39 | Rob2222 | :( |
| 12:05:43 | Rob2222 | send it back ;) |
| 12:05:59 | muesli__ | no...those asses need ages 4-6weeks for fixing |
| 12:06:09 | Rob2222 | I killed 2 or 3 2,5" HDs with that adapter: http://www.michelkohl.de/catalog/images/11031540_002.JPG |
| 12:07:07 | muesli__ | ;) |
| 12:07:11 | Rob2222 | So youre not the only HD killer |
| 12:07:13 | Rob2222 | ;) |
| 12:07:22 | Rob2222 | Wanna know how? |
| 12:07:29 | muesli__ | yepp, tell me |
| 12:07:36 | Rob2222 | Connected HD while running => no problem |
| 12:07:41 | Rob2222 | but the power connector |
| 12:07:47 | muesli__ | oh yes |
| 12:07:55 | Rob2222 | you can insert it only in 1 direction |
| 12:07:55 | muesli__ | sounds familiar to me |
| 12:08:00 | Rob2222 | but when you try |
| 12:08:22 | Rob2222 | it will fit half inside when on the wrong direction |
| 12:08:29 | muesli__ | damn |
| 12:08:32 | muesli__ | thats nasty |
| 12:08:34 | Rob2222 | and you give 12V to the 5V |
| 12:08:48 | Rob2222 | yep :( |
| 12:09:04 | muesli__ | i hate that molex plug at all...if i get that guy who invented it... |
| 12:09:54 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 12:10:14 | Rob2222 | when connecting it on the fly |
| 12:10:27 | Rob2222 | you must make very sure that you didnt get the wrong direction |
| 12:10:51 | Rob2222 | cause the pins can get contact even in wrong directon. |
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| 12:12:12 | muesli__ | i guess the same thing happened to me... |
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| 12:12:25 | muesli__ | it must got power on the wrong pin |
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| 12:34:07 | B4gder | now I remember I have this pending bitmap makefile patch... |
| 12:35:07 | linuxstb | Well, it can't make the dependency problems worse... |
| 12:35:46 | B4gder | true |
| 12:35:54 | B4gder | I'll commit it soonish |
| 12:36:23 | linuxstb | It looked good to me (if you fix the typo). |
| 12:36:32 | B4gder | typo fixed |
| 12:42:54 | Membrillo | does anyone know the syntax for changing the width and height of progress bars on H300 optmized? |
| 12:42:59 | Membrillo | in the WPS that is |
| 12:43:56 | linuxstb | I think it's something like %pb|10|4 - where 10 is the height and 4 is the margin applied to the left and right sides of the bar. It's not a width parameter AFAIK. |
| 12:44:52 | Membrillo | ah |
| 12:45:21 | Membrillo | so if i wanted the bar to be 121 pixels long it would be 176-121 then divide that by two |
| 12:45:32 | linuxstb | I think so. |
| 12:45:40 | preglow | oooh, if the eq filters can use transposed direct form 2, i think i've found a way to speed up the eq quite a bit |
| 12:45:57 | preglow | someone pay me to do rockbox, please |
| 12:46:44 | * | B4gder offers to pay for an occational burger |
| 12:47:30 | * | preglow checks possibilities to pay bills in burgers |
| 12:59:06 | B4gder | there it goes, my build patch |
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| 13:02:12 | * | B4gder actually considers a "breakage points" column in the build table. Like all errors sumed up... possibly errors * 10 + warnings |
| 13:03:08 | * | B4gder never does useless things, nooooo |
| 13:03:11 | preglow | what'd be the point? |
| 13:03:14 | preglow | hehe |
| 13:03:29 | B4gder | the point would simply be the amusement |
| 13:03:51 | B4gder | like in "preglow scored 12 points" |
| 13:04:42 | Bger | :D |
| 13:05:25 | preglow | haha |
| 13:05:26 | Bger | good idea ...:P |
| 13:05:28 | preglow | summed over all targets, i hope? |
| 13:05:31 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:05:34 | Bger | but better Lang v2 ... :P |
| 13:05:39 | preglow | pft |
| 13:05:56 | B4gder | Bger: sorry, but that wouldn't be useless ;-) |
| 13:06:14 | Bger | that's why i vote for it :D |
| 13:07:12 | B4gder | perhaps we should have a swedish devcon again and get langv2 going on such an event |
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| 13:07:31 | Bger | go go go |
| 13:07:38 | Bger | and take pictures :D |
| 13:08:59 | preglow | hold it in the pub and i'll make it a norwegian/swedish devcon |
| 13:09:19 | B4gder | yay |
| 13:09:43 | preglow | and probably make a nuisance out of myself |
| 13:10:07 | * | preglow drags himself back to work |
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| 13:13:11 | B4gder | I've found out why the changelog for a particular commit in the build table gets blank at times |
| 13:15:56 | LinusN | oh |
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| 13:18:07 | Membrillo | in customWPS. How do you display a percentage sign? I want to show the battery level then a percent sign, so im using %bl% but instead of a percentage sign i get a little dotted box symbol |
| 13:18:24 | Paprica | %% |
| 13:18:28 | Paprica | i think |
| 13:18:34 | Membrillo | ah of course |
| 13:18:41 | Paprica | =] |
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| 13:19:37 | Membrillo | Yep, that worked |
| 13:19:52 | Bger | haha "Warning!!! If you don't send this e-mail to at least 8 500 000 people in the next 10 sec, one blue dinosaur attended with eggplat mutants and Teletubis - evil fagg.ts will come to eat our your family tomorrow @ 17:00 o'clock |
| 13:20:15 | linuxstb | Bagder: Have you noticed that changing a plugin .c file also causes credits.rock to be rebuilt? |
| 13:20:35 | Bger | if you get into the first group or 18:00 o' clock if you get into the second one" |
| 13:21:18 | Bger | our = all |
| 13:22:12 | B4gder | no |
| 13:22:23 | B4gder | I'll look into that later |
| 13:23:04 | B4gder | I've adjusted the build script now, hopefully it will work better from now on |
| 13:23:15 | linuxstb | Another oddity is the script elfdep.pl in apps/plugins - I assume this is obsolete now? |
| 13:23:23 | B4gder | yes it is |
| 13:23:31 | B4gder | we never use it |
| 13:23:39 | B4gder | it was just work in progress I committed |
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| 13:33:12 | preglow | brb |
| 13:38:33 | B4gder | now, next commit will be interesting ;-) |
| 13:51:39 | linuxstb | OK, I've taken the bait... |
| 13:53:04 | linuxstb | You can't blame every committer for the iAudio X5 warnings.... :) |
| 13:53:19 | B4gder | I can't? ;-) |
| 13:54:27 | linuxstb | I suppose it's a good way to get someone to fix them. |
| 13:55:19 | Bger | hahaha i'm far behind lostlogic :D |
| 13:57:34 | linuxstb | The build time also seems a bit wrong for the first entry - "0001-26-12 52:36" |
| 13:58:07 | B4gder | yes it got a bit messed up |
| 13:58:13 | B4gder | wrong colspan too |
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| 13:59:57 | preglow | and the link is severely broken |
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| 14:00:06 | B4gder | yeps |
| 14:00:25 | B4gder | fixed it now, the table is rebuilt again when the build is complete |
| 14:00:36 | preglow | but ok, gotta vanish for a few hours |
| 14:00:43 | preglow | bbl |
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| 14:08:41 | XavierGr | How Can I create a wiki page? |
| 14:08:55 | XavierGr | I can edit but there is no button to create one |
| 14:09:22 | linuxstb | Just type in the name of a page that doesn't exist in the "Go to" box at the top, and then you'll get a create option |
| 14:09:36 | XavierGr | ah yes thanks just found it. |
| 14:11:42 | Bger | hehe XavierGr ;) |
| 14:11:49 | XavierGr | :D |
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| 14:13:14 | jungti1234 | What is 'score'? :) |
| 14:13:33 | Bger | jungti1234 a joke by B4gder :) |
| 14:13:44 | Bger | how bad performed a commiter |
| 14:14:09 | Bger | how many errors/warnings he/she made |
| 14:14:17 | jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 14:14:31 | jungti1234 | 0001-26-12 52:36 Build expected to complete around 13:19:55 |
| 14:14:36 | jungti1234 | 0001? :D |
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| 14:16:04 | B4gder | relex, sit back and it'll go away in time ;-) |
| 14:16:06 | linuxstb | Yes, the year 10K bug has hit us. |
| 14:20:20 | jungti1234 | haha |
| 14:20:52 | XavierGr | Haha indeed! |
| 14:21:06 | XavierGr | Amazing who thought of this? |
| 14:21:19 | jungti1234 | High score: Brandon? hehe |
| 14:21:25 | linuxstb | B4gder: All seems well, apart from your bmp2rb commit is now listed in the top two builds. |
| 14:21:26 | Bger | :P |
| 14:21:35 | B4gder | yes |
| 14:21:47 | B4gder | I bet that is because it includes that same second in both |
| 14:21:47 | linuxstb | So we scored 4.5 points each. |
| 14:22:03 | B4gder | I'll see if the next ones do the same |
| 14:22:35 | linuxstb | How about naming and shaming the committer next to the score? |
| 14:22:37 | Paprica | linuxstb, can i talk with u in private for a moment? |
| 14:22:59 | B4gder | linuxstb: I thought about that too, but it makes things a lot more complicated |
| 14:23:04 | B4gder | I'll save that for another day |
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| 14:27:02 | B4gder | XavierGr: it's a struck of my facination of useless stats |
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| 14:27:39 | linuxstb | It's hard to assign those stats to people though - if two people commit at the same time. |
| 14:27:44 | B4gder | indeed |
| 14:27:52 | B4gder | but most of the times there's just a single committer |
| 14:28:02 | XavierGr | Always creative Bagder! |
| 14:28:10 | XavierGr | reboot |
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| 14:30:56 | B4gder | hm, it might be a time zone problem... |
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| 14:32:16 | B4gder | yes I think it was, attempted fix applied |
| 14:32:33 | B4gder | it include a full hour too much in the changelog |
| 14:32:36 | B4gder | included |
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| 14:44:33 | jungti1234 | Bger! |
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| 14:51:32 | Bger | jungti1234 ? |
| 14:52:19 | jungti1234 | where is korean lang file? |
| 14:52:44 | Bger | umm? |
| 14:53:24 | jungti1234 | uh? |
| 14:54:56 | Bger | what about the korean.lang ? |
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| 15:09:30 | Bger | Bagder ... can u see the the most recent update to the cvs from the daily page ? :P |
| 15:11:01 | Bger | i bet u can't :P |
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| 15:45:05 | jungti1234 | good night |
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| 15:48:38 | Paprica | mm there is a transparent color in the plugins bitmap loader? |
| 15:49:49 | Bger | guys, where's the misticriver's gallery ? |
| 15:50:10 | Paprica | http://misticriver.net/photos/index.php |
| 15:50:11 | Paprica | here? |
| 15:50:32 | Bger | 10x |
| 15:50:40 | Bger | i didn't see a link from the site |
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| 16:12:38 | Paprica | can someone add the transparent patch to the cvs? |
| 16:12:54 | Paprica | it very simple and works fine.. |
| 16:13:56 | linuxstb | Is Linus's 24-bit bmp loader in CVS yet? |
| 16:14:19 | Paprica | no but for plugins it works fine |
| 16:14:29 | Paprica | mm |
| 16:14:34 | Paprica | it hust 3 line |
| 16:14:34 | Paprica | s |
| 16:14:38 | Paprica | just* |
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| 16:15:55 | dwihno | is there any way to prioritize a kernel feature to be loaded earlier? |
| 16:16:01 | dwihno | (linux-wise) |
| 16:18:52 | linuxstb | Paprica: Where is that patch? |
| 16:19:18 | Paprica | sec |
| 16:20:08 | Paprica | http://www.misticriver.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3509&d=1137963643 |
| 16:24:32 | linuxstb | That patch replaces efficient memcpys with a for loop that checks every pixel for transparency. I'm not sure that would be welcomed in cvs. |
| 16:24:49 | preglow | hahaha |
| 16:25:14 | preglow | exactly where do you use transparent bmps? |
| 16:25:48 | preglow | if we're going to support bitmaps with transparency, it is for sure going to be in a separate function |
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| 16:25:50 | Paprica | i want to use it in brickmania |
| 16:25:56 | preglow | it doesn't always make sense to support transparency |
| 16:26:05 | Paprica | for break effect |
| 16:26:23 | linuxstb | preglow: I was about to suggest the same thing. |
| 16:27:25 | Paprica | so in the cvs version i dont use the break effect |
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| 16:29:19 | preglow | but yes, transparency is a worthwhile effect, but it should be avoided wherever possible |
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| 16:29:37 | preglow | since drawing it will be at least five-six times slower than without transparency |
| 16:29:39 | linuxstb | Does it make sense for the 2bpp lcd driver? |
| 16:29:44 | preglow | no |
| 16:29:51 | preglow | imho |
| 16:30:05 | linuxstb | Bejewelled could benefit though. |
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| 16:31:01 | preglow | indeed |
| 16:31:05 | preglow | lots of things would benefit |
| 16:31:08 | Paprica | there is no other way to do transparency? |
| 16:31:11 | preglow | no |
| 16:31:18 | preglow | not without dedicated hardware support |
| 16:31:59 | preglow | you could of course do some asm hacks to make it faster, but the bottom line is it introduces a per pixel conditional, which will slow stuff down very much |
| 16:32:16 | preglow | this isn't saying we wont have transparency, we just wont use it for everything |
| 16:33:03 | linuxstb | I'm in favour of adding second versions of the lcd_bitmap and lcd_bitmap_part functions for all lcds with depths greater than one, with an extra transparency colour parameter. |
| 16:33:55 | Paprica | oj |
| 16:33:55 | linuxstb | Or we change the existing function(s) to have an extra "use_transparency" flag. |
| 16:33:56 | Paprica | h |
| 16:33:59 | Paprica | good |
| 16:34:04 | Paprica | mm |
| 16:34:06 | * | Domonoky made a port of brickmania to h1x0... http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmania.rock |
| 16:34:14 | Paprica | oooooo |
| 16:34:15 | Paprica | =] |
| 16:34:20 | Domonoky | its not completly ready.. |
| 16:34:23 | linuxstb | But I would want other devs to comment first. |
| 16:34:33 | lostlogic | linuxstb: new functions. |
| 16:34:53 | Domonoky | its a bit ugli.. i have to change some graphics, and their positions... |
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| 16:35:14 | Domonoky | and i have to change the speed of the game.. on h1x0 its really fast :-) |
| 16:35:43 | Domonoky | also a patchfile for this.. http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmainiapatch |
| 16:35:45 | linuxstb | Looks like we have some conflicts coming up then - Domonoky's ported it to the h1x0, I've started a port to the ipod Video, and Paprica is also enhancing it.... |
| 16:35:49 | Paprica | can you upload the source too? |
| 16:36:15 | Paprica | oh |
| 16:36:24 | Paprica | i didnt see the patch |
| 16:36:30 | Domonoky | source as well, or is the patch enough ? |
| 16:36:43 | Paprica | enough |
| 16:36:45 | Paprica | 10x |
| 16:36:52 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 16:37:13 | linuxstb | Domonoky: I've made almost the identical changes when porting it to the video... :) |
| 16:37:22 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 16:37:53 | preglow | i think i'd want a special function instead of a flag |
| 16:38:06 | linuxstb | So I can try and merge your changes with mine, and update CVS. Hopefully Paprica hasn't made too many changes in his copy...... |
| 16:38:43 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Did you create some .bmp files as well for the h1x0? |
| 16:38:58 | Domonoky | jes.. oh i forgot to upload.. |
| 16:39:14 | Domonoky | their arent pretty.. but it works.. :-) |
| 16:39:25 | linuxstb | preglow: I think I would as well. I'ld like to know what amiconn thinks before implementing it though. |
| 16:39:30 | preglow | yep |
| 16:39:31 | preglow | agree |
| 16:39:35 | Domonoky | the welcome screen isnt ready, aswell as the help screen.. |
| 16:40:41 | linuxstb | It would be nice to get colour bitmap support with transparency in CVS though. |
| 16:41:53 | linuxstb | The WPS's are looking quite impressive. It's hard to believe Rockbox is behind this: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/ViperKnight/rockamp.png |
| 16:42:19 | crwl | too bad the font size is next to unreadable :) |
| 16:42:24 | preglow | hah |
| 16:42:25 | preglow | ouch |
| 16:42:51 | preglow | bad luck with the font colour too |
| 16:42:51 | Domonoky | bitmaps for brickmania h1x0 , http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmaniagrafikgrey.zip |
| 16:42:54 | preglow | but hey, not bad at all |
| 16:43:36 | crwl | multiple fonts for WPS would be something |
| 16:44:13 | crwl | nowthe trend is that WPS makers want to stuff everything possible in the WPS... and need to use a small font size because of that |
| 16:45:02 | crwl | and then the information that's actually usefull is next to unreadable too |
| 16:45:05 | crwl | -l |
| 16:45:09 | linuxstb | That's probably why battery life is so bad on the h300 though.... |
| 16:45:23 | preglow | heh |
| 16:45:32 | preglow | is the entire wps redrawn for every frame? |
| 16:45:39 | linuxstb | I've no idea how they work. |
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| 16:50:30 | preglow | i'm pretty sure it can be made more efficient anywho |
| 16:50:53 | linuxstb | I'm guessing the other things we need are a) The ability to set a background image that text and mono bitmaps are drawn on top of; and b) changing fb/bg draw colours. |
| 16:52:08 | preglow | none of which are very hard |
| 16:52:22 | lostlogic | preglow: nathanh is working on improving WPS a lot |
| 16:52:29 | preglow | lostlogic: so i see |
| 16:52:49 | lostlogic | preglow: also, not the whole thing is redrawn, some parts are dymanic and some static, there is an update_track flag that says when to update the static stuff |
| 16:52:59 | preglow | good |
| 16:53:31 | linuxstb | And of course, c) is multiple fonts. |
| 16:53:48 | lostlogic | it seems like all of the tags are calculated each pass though even if not all are drawn, which can also be improved |
| 16:54:09 | preglow | currently the entire wps is parsed per frame? |
| 16:54:15 | lostlogic | right |
| 16:54:17 | preglow | heh |
| 16:54:19 | lostlogic | as far as I can see |
| 16:54:23 | preglow | the token parser should really improve that, then |
| 16:54:31 | preglow | number matchin > string matchingh |
| 16:54:36 | lostlogic | exactly |
| 16:54:37 | preglow | thom, the lord of type |
| 16:54:51 | preglow | champion of keyboards |
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| 17:05:09 | Paprica | mm how can i do a secs counter? |
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| 17:05:27 | Paprica | i want to count 10 secs.. |
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| 17:06:06 | preglow | pub time |
| 17:06:20 | Paprica | .. |
| 17:07:57 | Mmmm | I've been using put_cursorxy to move the cursor on the main unit. now I want to do the same on the remote but there is no equivalent function |
| 17:08:12 | Rob2222 | WPS: %?mp<Play> <= why does that not work in my H300? |
| 17:08:17 | linuxstb | Paprica: Just use current tick. 10 seconds is 10*HZ. |
| 17:08:38 | Paprica | ok 10x |
| 17:08:44 | Mmmm | I've created my own in menu.c put_remote_cursor which works fine, but is this necessary? |
| 17:09:12 | linuxstb | No - I thought the new gui system should handle menus on both screens itself. |
| 17:09:45 | Mmmm | screen_put_cursor? |
| 17:09:46 | linuxstb | i.e. you just use the standard menu functions, and your menus will be displayed automatically on the remote (if one is present). |
| 17:09:57 | linuxstb | Probably. I don't know the new gui code. |
| 17:10:27 | Mmmm | ok.. thanks..I'll look into it! :) |
| 17:10:57 | Rob2222 | Has anyone a idea? |
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| 17:12:13 | Daavid_Webguest | Hi all. First time on IRC. Yay for Rockbox. Anyway, quick question. Is the tag database working for the H300 port yet? |
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| 17:12:31 | |Lupin| | Hello, there ! |
| 17:12:59 | linuxstb | Daavid_Webguest: It works the same on all ports. |
| 17:14:40 | Daavid_Webguest | I can't seem to figure what I'm doing wrong then. I've used the Java version and I used the correct bat file and all, but when ever I set show files to ID3 and then press NAVI it just gives em a blank screen. Any suggestions? |
| 17:16:30 | |Lupin| | Should a checkout of rockbox-all also download wiki pages, or are they stored in another reposito!y ? |
| 17:18:25 | Domonoky_ | new patch and bmps for brickmania on h1x0.. now the only problems are the helpscreen, and the speed on h1x0. |
| 17:18:25 | Domonoky_ | http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/ |
| 17:18:25 | Domonoky_ | |
| 17:19:07 | Domonoky_ | and of course it could have nicer bmps.. but i am no artist :-) |
| 17:19:29 | linuxstb | Is that different to the one you posted 40 minutes ago? |
| 17:19:46 | Domonoky_ | a little bit.. mostly the bmps.. |
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| 17:19:58 | linuxstb | OK. I'll start again... :) |
| 17:20:15 | Domonoky_ | :-) |
| 17:21:03 | Domonoky_ | i will now stop coding.. so please commit it, so that i can build on top of that tomorrow :-) |
| 17:21:32 | Daavid_Webguest | Is the PERL version for the tag DB more reliable or should the JAVA version work the same? |
| 17:21:42 | amiconn | linuxstb: I'm here for ~10 minutes now |
| 17:21:54 | linuxstb | Hello. |
| 17:22:12 | linuxstb | Firstly, did you see my comments about the iPod's DAC this morning? |
| 17:22:25 | |Lupin| | what's about the wiki pages pls ? Is it possibleo check them out from some CVS repository ? |
| 17:22:44 | |Lupin| | (oops, sorry to disturb...) |
| 17:22:45 | amiconn | linuxstb: approx. time? |
| 17:22:57 | linuxstb | about 10am GMT I think. |
| 17:23:27 | linuxstb | 10.54.31 |
| 17:23:49 | linuxstb | Plus a volume scale question at 11.05.44 |
| 17:24:15 | t0mas_ | |Lupin|: what do you want with them? |
| 17:24:55 | Daavid_Webguest | K, I can see you guys are busy.Sorry to bother. If you get a chance my question is on misticriver aswell.Cheers and bye! |
| 17:25:15 | Mmmm | ahhh...when i said cursor earlier, i meant the pointer! does that make a difference linuxstb? |
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| 17:25:22 | amiconn | linuxstb: I have no idea about the I2S. Rockbox volume is in 1 dB steps, so the user would have 74 steps on iPod |
| 17:25:42 | linuxstb | OK. I'll go ahead and do that then. |
| 17:25:51 | linuxstb | Are bass/treble the same? |
| 17:26:03 | |Lupin| | t0mas_: I'd likeTo downloadthem |
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| 17:26:07 | |Lupin| | for off-line browsing... |
| 17:26:30 | t0mas_ | ah |
| 17:26:50 | t0mas_ | you can use some bot like HTTrack for that... |
| 17:26:56 | amiconn | linuxstb: yes, 1 dB as well |
| 17:27:29 | t0mas_ | but please watch out with the settings... if you "tweak" it to much it can almost DoS a server... |
| 17:27:29 | linuxstb | OK, thanks. That's it for my audio questions. Did you read the brief discussion about transparency? |
| 17:27:35 | amiconn | I we'd want to make the full resolution avalable to the user, we would have to provide 1/8 dB steps on archos... |
| 17:28:04 | |Lupin| | Phone... |
| 17:28:08 | t0mas_ | k |
| 17:28:30 | linuxstb | I just want to be consistent - changing things in 1dB steps is good enough for me. |
| 17:29:37 | amiconn | For transparency, I had a completely different method in mind |
| 17:29:47 | linuxstb | I'm not surprised :) |
| 17:30:15 | amiconn | A special transparency colour would (1) not allow to use all colours for real. Not a problem on 16 bit, but a considerable problem on 2bit... |
| 17:30:42 | amiconn | (2) It would be slow, as the drawing routines would have to check each pixel for that special colour |
| 17:30:42 | linuxstb | So you want a transparency mask? |
| 17:30:46 | amiconn | yes |
| 17:31:03 | amiconn | lcd_bitmap_masked[_part]() |
| 17:31:17 | amiconn | ...which would take both a native and a mono bitmap |
| 17:31:57 | markun | linuxstb: The WM8751 does volume in steps of 0.5 dB from 0 to -127dB, strange that it's so different from the other Wolfson DACs. |
| 17:32:22 | amiconn | Drawing a native bitmap with a mask is equivalent to drawing a mono bitmap with the native bitmap being used as a 'foreground colour' |
| 17:32:56 | amiconn | I also want to add a global background image feature |
| 17:33:11 | amiconn | But both extensions should come after optimisation, imho |
| 17:34:39 | amiconn | bbl |
| 17:34:41 | linuxstb | I don't think it would harm to put unoptimised versions in CVS asap. At least that way, we have a stable API that people can start using. Otherwise people will use unofficial patches, such as the transparency colour one. |
| 17:34:52 | * | amiconn hopes Linus will be around as well then |
| 17:35:00 | linuxstb | later. |
| 17:35:59 | linuxstb | markun: That sounds like it's a better DAC though. What's the quoted SNR? |
| 17:36:59 | markun | linuxstb: 98dB |
| 17:37:25 | linuxstb | That's the same as all the others then. |
| 17:38:14 | linuxstb | I _think_ I've managed to get the ipod's DAC operating at 24-bit/96KHz, but I don't know how I can test it for sure. |
| 17:38:32 | linuxstb | It could just be 16-bit/96KHz. |
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| 17:41:25 | tucoz | linuxstb: use the placebo method. Best test ever :) |
| 17:41:41 | linuxstb | hehe. |
| 17:42:11 | linuxstb | Yes, I'll just say that it increases the warmth and musicality of the DAC and collect my pay-cheque. |
| 17:42:20 | tucoz | so you think sound on the ipods is within reach now? |
| 17:42:21 | tucoz | hehe |
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| 17:42:58 | linuxstb | We have sound, but we just haven't written an interrupt-driven driver that we can link with the playback code. |
| 17:43:31 | linuxstb | But yes, it shouldn't be too much more work. |
| 17:43:41 | Rob2222 | Daavid was right, ID3 database isnt working on H3x0. |
| 17:44:35 | tucoz | cool. Wonder if this will attract any ipodders. I have a feeling that is not the case. Maybe some ipl-users will convert religion. |
| 17:45:53 | linuxstb | It's much more likely to attract people to ipods IMO. |
| 17:45:54 | tucoz | some ipod-users will of course be interested, but the percentage of the total number of ipod-owners interested in rockbox will probably be waay lower than that of iriver-owners. |
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| 17:46:13 | tucoz | your'e probably right about that |
| 17:46:19 | tucoz | me for instance :) |
| 17:47:04 | Rob2222 | Does anyone knows that there is a problem with the ID3 tag database on H300? |
| 17:47:25 | linuxstb | The most common criticisms of the ipod - no "drag and drop" music playback, limited codec support, no gapless - are not there with Rockbox. |
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| 17:47:41 | linuxstb | Rob2222: What's the problem specifically? Does it just not work at all? |
| 17:48:02 | Rob2222 | I just created the database fle |
| 17:48:08 | tucoz | Rob2222: I would just wait for Slasheri to get his tagcache thing ready. I believe that will work better than the current not finished db. |
| 17:48:08 | Rob2222 | file with the java instructions. |
| 17:48:59 | Rob2222 | Then I switch to quickmenu, select "TAG DB" and when hitting REC to leave the QUICK MENU my H340 just freezes. |
| 17:49:04 | Rob2222 | tried 2 times. |
| 17:49:28 | [IDC]Dragon | (oh, so many people here) |
| 17:49:53 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn? |
| 17:49:55 | linuxstb | Maybe it's a problem with the Java application. I would try the perl script. But I would be surprised if it's a H300 specific problem. |
| 17:50:10 | linuxstb | [IDC]Dragon: amiconn left. He said he would be back later. |
| 17:50:17 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
| 17:50:31 | linuxstb | (he left about 15mins ago) |
| 17:50:43 | Rob2222 | never did anything with pearl, yet. |
| 17:51:29 | linuxstb | No-one has touched the tag database code for months. As tucoz said, all hopes are on Slasheri's new tagcache. |
| 17:51:46 | Rob2222 | whats that? |
| 17:51:50 | Lynx_ | what does the tagcache do? |
| 17:52:23 | linuxstb | It's similar to the dircache feature - it builds and updates a tag database in the background on the player itself. |
| 17:52:33 | Rob2222 | huh |
| 17:52:37 | linuxstb | So you don't need to do anything on the PC. |
| 17:52:42 | Rob2222 | that will cost energy at 60GB MP3s... |
| 17:52:49 | Lynx_ | ah. is there a new database format and all? |
| 17:52:54 | linuxstb | No more than doing it on a PC. |
| 17:53:32 | linuxstb | In fact, Slasheri's tests seem to show that it's faster than doing it on the PC - you don't have to transfer all the data over USB. |
| 17:53:34 | Rob2222 | it only builds the cache on command? |
| 17:53:46 | linuxstb | I'm not sure of the details, but trust Slasheri to do it right. |
| 17:53:53 | Rob2222 | kk. |
| 17:54:05 | linuxstb | But yes, I think there's a manual "rebuild tagcache" option. |
| 17:54:17 | Rob2222 | BTW, I saw the Java version showed my duplicate files at a hash... |
| 17:55:01 | Rob2222 | Is there a tool the checks for duplicate files and can handle the case that the same mp3 has only different ID3 tags? |
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| 17:55:51 | tucoz | Rob2222: I think musicbrainz do something like that |
| 17:55:56 | Mmmm | linuxstb:I think that screen_put_cursorxy (in icon.c) should work for any screen but it needs to be passed "struct screen * display" which I assume tells which screen to print to. do you have any idea/guess what I should pass? |
| 17:57:07 | Mmmm | Or am I barking up the wrong kind of tree here? :D |
| 17:57:48 | Rob2222 | tucoz: Ah, thats cool as i can see |
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| 18:02:25 | linuxstb | Mmmm: That sounds right to me. I don't know how you create the display structures though. |
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| 18:03:39 | Mmmm | hmmmm... looks like I'm stumped then...! |
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| 18:06:55 | linuxstb | Mmmm: What are you trying to implement? |
| 18:07:25 | Mmmm | recording screen on the remote..its all there except that pesky pointer! :D |
| 18:08:27 | Mmmm | so is put_cursorxy() just an unwanted leftover function from the old days then? |
| 18:09:03 | Mmmm | (in menu.c) |
| 18:10:24 | linuxstb | Very possibly. I know not all the old code has been deleted yet. |
| 18:11:49 | linuxstb | Maybe it's worth checking the CVS logs to see what someone did the last time they adapted part of rockbox to the new gui system. |
| 18:12:03 | linuxstb | i.e. browse this page; http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
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| 18:13:32 | Mmmm | I'll have a look... |
| 18:14:02 | Mmmm | only one place that calls screen_put_cursorxy though! in list.c |
| 18:14:41 | Mmmm | hmmm maybe I should be calling something in there instead that will support both displays at once.... |
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| 18:17:06 | |Lupin| | C U |
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| 18:25:27 | Rob2222 | Hi Linus. |
| 18:26:48 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Is it much work to implement USB charging into the iRiver Bootloader at a keypress? Cause you didnt need a algorithm, you only need "not" going into usb mode. |
| 18:27:14 | LinusN | i still don't know how to control usb charging on the h300 |
| 18:27:40 | Rob2222 | Ah, the pin. |
| 18:27:49 | Rob2222 | Just forgotten it. |
| 18:28:53 | Rob2222 | Hmm. |
| 18:29:59 | lostlogic | LinusN: have you tried listening to the charge state pin with USB connected but w/o going into disk mode? |
| 18:30:02 | ModernExecutive | hi linus |
| 18:30:36 | LinusN | lostlogic: no, i haven't had time |
| 18:30:49 | * | LinusN is in the phone |
| 18:30:52 | LinusN | on |
| 18:30:55 | LinusN | in |
| 18:30:56 | LinusN | at |
| 18:30:58 | LinusN | jkdhgs |
| 18:31:01 | ModernExecutive | lol |
| 18:31:10 | Rob2222 | btw as long as youre in VIEW IO PORTS it doesnt enter USB mode, right? |
| 18:31:40 | Rob2222 | yeah |
| 18:31:42 | Rob2222 | right |
| 18:31:48 | Rob2222 | it works |
| 18:31:59 | Rob2222 | nice |
| 18:32:05 | Rob2222 | USB charging in RB |
| 18:32:33 | Rob2222 | Go to VIEW IO PORTs and connect USB |
| 18:32:39 | Rob2222 | and it starts charging |
| 18:32:50 | Rob2222 | you can leave the debug screen then |
| 18:33:28 | Rob2222 | I only dont know how much USB power that drains. Cause the unit is switched on. |
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| 18:34:51 | Rob2222 | So its a little risky. |
| 18:35:01 | Rob2222 | Maybe I shouldnt try that at my laptop. |
| 18:35:38 | Rob2222 | im going home. afk |
| 18:36:07 | Rob2222 | ModernExecutive: Do you started another RMA? |
| 18:36:13 | Rob2222 | Until you get a H360? |
| 18:36:16 | Rob2222 | afk |
| 18:36:21 | Rob2222 | ;) |
| 18:36:55 | ModernExecutive | :) |
| 18:36:56 | ModernExecutive | no |
| 18:37:00 | ModernExecutive | i'll keep the h340 probably |
| 18:37:01 | ModernExecutive | :) |
| 18:37:13 | ModernExecutive | but i still have the 2nd rma, waiting to see if linus has a new firmware to try |
| 18:38:19 | Indig0 | Anyone have a couple minutes for a n00b? |
| 18:38:47 | Indig0 | I've got a second-hand AV400 here and a couple questions. |
| 18:43:39 | linuxstb | What's your question? |
| 18:44:47 | Indig0 | Well, I'm looking at the rockbox faq and wondering if I'm going to be losing any video capabilities by moving to this firmware? It looks like RVF is the accepted format? |
| 18:44:54 | Indig0 | Yeah, it's a silly question. I could just try it. |
| 18:44:59 | linuxstb | Rockbox doesn't work at all on the av400 |
| 18:45:09 | Indig0 | Ah, *red* |
| 18:45:16 | Indig0 | Should have read the FAQ more closely. |
| 18:45:28 | linuxstb | It only works for the Archos players listed at the very top of the home page: http://www.rockbox.org/ |
| 18:46:04 | Indig0 | Thanks, that somehow escaped me. |
| 18:46:18 | linuxstb | np |
| 18:46:22 | Indig0 | Then I have a general hardware question, since I may as well dig myself in deeper. |
| 18:47:13 | Indig0 | I've found the device turns off suddenly when subjected to any jarring motion (like, even setting it down on the desk). |
| 18:47:29 | Indig0 | Is this some mechanism to protect the drive heads or might I have a lose connection somewhere? |
| 18:47:38 | Indig0 | *loose |
| 18:47:59 | Indig0 | "No idea." is fine, I'm just throwing this out there. |
| 18:48:20 | Bagder | I don't think units use to switch off themselves during those conditions |
| 18:50:41 | Indig0 | Yeah, it's odd. I have the feeling it's not a feature. |
| 18:50:46 | Indig0 | *chuckle* |
| 18:51:02 | Indig0 | i.e. why I have it second-hand. |
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| 18:52:48 | ModernExecutive | bbl |
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| 18:53:25 | Indig0 | Alright, I'll just assume it's probably a defect of some sort. *shrug* Still works, I just have to handle it very gently. |
| 18:53:40 | Indig0 | Thanks for the help, and thanks for the patience stb. *chuckle* |
| 18:53:47 | Indig0 | Man, one of these days I'll learn how to read. |
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| 19:16:14 | Rob2222mobile | test |
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| 19:17:07 | ModernExecutive | linus still on the phone? |
| 19:20:22 | ModernExecutive | guess so? |
| 19:20:29 | Rob2222mobile | you didnt want to send back a unbricked player, heh? ;) |
| 19:20:39 | ModernExecutive | <g> rob, you suck. :) |
| 19:20:49 | ModernExecutive | no, i don't. |
| 19:21:34 | ModernExecutive | but OTOH, i would like to try rockbox once |
| 19:21:58 | Rob2222mobile | sure i know |
| 19:22:08 | Rob2222mobile | sorry |
| 19:22:16 | ModernExecutive | no problme |
| 19:22:31 | ModernExecutive | then again, I just want to see if I can play some small part in advancing the rockbox project. by taking the risk of drm being lost. |
| 19:22:52 | ModernExecutive | if that's still the only thing holding up the release of us firmware, that no one is willing to try it, then I'd be happy to volunteer |
| 19:23:05 | Rob2222mobile | thougt about buy a intermational version? |
| 19:23:47 | ModernExecutive | how do you mean? |
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| 19:25:37 | ModernExecutive | hi kyl |
| 19:25:45 | Kyl3 | hey |
| 19:26:02 | Rob2222mobile | buy a int h300 |
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| 19:27:39 | ModernExecutive | no way |
| 19:27:41 | Kyl3 | Hey are any of you guys aware of the bug that when you press ON on a US player while the player is off it sometimes boots into iRiver firmware |
| 19:27:55 | ModernExecutive | i guess |
| 19:28:11 | ModernExecutive | after i put 1.29K + BL onto my h300 |
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| 19:28:17 | ModernExecutive | it would always boot into the iriver firmware |
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| 19:28:26 | ModernExecutive | i couldn't boot to the rockbox side |
| 19:29:29 | Paprica | haha |
| 19:29:32 | Paprica | http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/saxero/userbars/iRiverIsrael.png |
| 19:29:45 | ModernExecutive | cute |
| 19:30:11 | ModernExecutive | these bratwursts are awful. |
| 19:30:19 | ModernExecutive | should've gone for pork |
| 19:31:02 | Rob2222mobile | kyle have rb on a us player? |
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| 19:34:42 | Rob2222mobile | kyl3? |
| 19:36:17 | Therx | linuxstb: so can the rockbox bootloader load any kernel? and in what ways is it different to the IPL one? |
| 19:36:40 | Therx | will it work with the standard partitions? do i need to do anything before the steps on that page you linked me to? |
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| 19:37:06 | Rob2222mobile | doestnt his question means he has rb running on a us? |
| 19:37:12 | linuxstb | If you want to install IPL on your Nano, then you'll need to create an ext3 partition and install the IPL "userland" files in it. |
| 19:37:29 | Therx | what about rockbox? |
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| 19:37:40 | linuxstb | That just works using the FAT32 partition - no new partitions needed. |
| 19:38:22 | linuxstb | If you ever want to install IPL, I would suggest repartitioning your Nano now though - to shrink the FAT32 partition by about 64MB and create an ext3 partition of that size at the end of your disk. |
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| 19:41:10 | Therx | and would leave my music intact? |
| 19:41:34 | Therx | well, tbh, my end goal is to write something of my own, (alhtough i'll have a play around with one of IPL and rockbox first to get to grips with stuff), so unless rockbox port to the ipod is currently useless then i'm just as happy with either... |
| 19:41:35 | linuxstb | It depends on the tool you use to repartition. There are "non-destructive" tools available to do that. |
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| 19:42:18 | Therx | where does the rockbox boot load the kernel from? |
| 19:42:20 | linuxstb | The Rockbox port works quite well - we haven't finished the audio driver yet though, so there's no sound. But most other features of Rockbox are working well, such as the plugins. |
| 19:42:52 | * | preglow returns |
| 19:42:56 | XMaster||Shadow | hi ive got a problem... do anyone knows something about the hardware of the ihp-140? |
| 19:43:02 | Kyl3 | yes? |
| 19:43:13 | Kyl3 | sorry |
| 19:43:35 | preglow | just ask |
| 19:44:03 | Kyl3 | [ 13:31:03 ] �[ Rob2222mobile ] kyle have rb on a us player? <−−yes i do |
| 19:44:05 | Rob2222mobile | kyle do you have rb running on a us h300? |
| 19:44:31 | Kyl3 | yes |
| 19:44:40 | XMaster||Shadow | ive opened my player but I fucking cant disconnect the cable from the storage batery |
| 19:45:01 | XMaster||Shadow | i habe no idead anymore :( |
| 19:45:05 | XMaster||Shadow | *idea |
| 19:45:15 | Rob2222mobile | simply flashed a int fw with rb bootloader? |
| 19:45:22 | preglow | i assume you're trying to remove it at the circuit board and not at the battery? |
| 19:46:20 | XMaster||Shadow | yes :P |
| 19:46:35 | preglow | well, i've never tried it myself, so there's not much i can say about that |
| 19:47:14 | XMaster||Shadow | i am trying to separate the cable from the storage batery of the mainboard |
| 19:47:36 | Rob2222mobile | modern: read kyle? |
| 19:47:46 | ModernExecutive | sorry? |
| 19:47:47 | XMaster||Shadow | but its to solid on it :( |
| 19:47:52 | preglow | XMaster||Shadow: why, btw? changing battery? |
| 19:47:59 | Therx | linuxstb: where does the bootloader load the kernel from? |
| 19:48:15 | ModernExecutive | what did he say? |
| 19:48:30 | linuxstb | "linux.bin" in the root of your fat32 partition. |
| 19:48:40 | Rob2222mobile | modern: kyle has rb on us. |
| 19:48:58 | Therx | ok, thx |
| 19:49:05 | Therx | wish me luck |
| 19:49:25 | linuxstb | You don't need luck - as long as you know how to reboot and manually enter disk mode. |
| 19:49:51 | Therx | if linux has detected and already opened the ipod as a disk, then is that all ready to go? |
| 19:50:32 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 19:50:54 | linuxstb | But I would unmount it before trying to use "dd" with it. |
| 19:51:05 | XMaster||Shadow | 19:47:58) preglow: XMaster||Shadow: why, btw? changing battery? <−−−− well, no my player dont starts anymore after my batery was very low he just shutted down and now he doesnt start anymore... and a freidn has got the same problem with another player und he just putted the batery off and after he installed the akku just a message cam "battery low" and evrything was okay |
| 19:51:47 | Rob2222mobile | kyle: have you flashed a international firmware? |
| 19:51:48 | ModernExecutive | kyl: how did you do it? |
| 19:52:03 | ModernExecutive | i think kyl may have rbx on a us player, but he's using 1.29k + bl |
| 19:52:15 | Therx | kk, thx |
| 19:52:35 | preglow | XMaster||Shadow: i assume you have tried charging it, of course? |
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| 19:52:52 | linuxstb | Therx: In case you haven't seen them, I've just uploaded some bootloader binaries here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot (see the table at the bottom of the page) |
| 19:53:12 | Therx | right crosscompiler... is there a guide for getting this going for the nano processor? (i need it if i'm gonna be deving, so no point just getting a binary) |
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| 19:53:27 | preglow | os? |
| 19:54:00 | Therx | linux |
| 19:54:01 | Rob2222mobile | master how the plug looks like? |
| 19:54:02 | Therx | ubuntu |
| 19:54:19 | linuxstb | Follow the generic instructions here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
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| 19:54:44 | linuxstb | For the ipod, you will want gcc 4.0.2 and binutils 2.16, compiled for "arm-elf" - i.e. pass −−target=arm-elf to the configure scripts |
| 19:55:42 | Therx | k thx |
| 19:56:24 | Therx | will the gcc "core" do, or do i need the full bz2? |
| 19:56:42 | linuxstb | I normally use the full bz2 - I don't know what the difference is. |
| 19:56:51 | preglow | gcc-core is fine |
| 19:57:06 | Therx | thx both |
| 19:57:10 | preglow | brb |
| 19:57:14 | Therx | you guys are really helpful :P |
| 19:57:50 | Rob2222mobile | modern so you want drm? |
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| 19:58:54 | ModernExecutive | not for myself |
| 19:59:11 | ModernExecutive | but linus won't release any us firmware until he's assured that it won't kill drm |
| 19:59:15 | ModernExecutive | i like the us firmware |
| 19:59:19 | ModernExecutive | so i want to help that laong |
| 19:59:22 | ModernExecutive | er along |
| 19:59:56 | Rob2222mobile | but you didnt want to flash a int fw? |
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| 20:00:53 | Rob2222mobile | does us fw looks or works other than int? |
| 20:01:17 | Rob2222mobile | ah ok. |
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| 20:01:38 | Therx | oh just a quick q, with the bootloader, how do i select the apple firmware? |
| 20:01:40 | ModernExecutive | no i didn't flash to intenrational |
| 20:03:03 | ModernExecutive | there is one key difference for me b/w the us and int fws |
| 20:03:11 | ModernExecutive | us has a horizontal configuration menu. |
| 20:03:23 | ModernExecutive | internatial has a 3x2 grid arrangement |
| 20:03:58 | Rob2222mobile | hmm |
| 20:05:06 | Rob2222mobile | thats a matter? |
| 20:06:14 | ModernExecutive | it probably won't matter to me in a week |
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| 20:06:39 | ModernExecutive | but i'm keeping the drm on the players for now so linus can experiment |
| 20:07:03 | Rob2222mobile | ok. |
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| 20:09:52 | Rob2222mobile | ill shut down my phone now. bye |
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| 20:11:59 | linuxstb_ | Therx: Hold down MENU as the ipod is booting. You need to press MENU very early - before the apple logo appears - and keep holding it until the bootloader displays "Loading original firmware" |
| 20:12:38 | ModernExecutive | bye rob |
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| 20:22:21 | Therx | kk |
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| 20:28:49 | Therx | hmm, the bootloader doesn't appear to download from CVS... any suggestions? |
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| 20:29:38 | linuxstb_ | Did you type "cvs co rockbox" or "cvs co rockbox-devel" ? |
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| 20:30:18 | Therx | "cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox |
| 20:30:18 | Therx | " |
| 20:30:33 | linuxstb_ | You need to type "cvs co bootloader" |
| 20:30:38 | Therx | ok thx |
| 20:30:49 | linuxstb_ | (it's only part of the rockbox-dev alias) |
| 20:31:18 | Therx | kk |
| 20:33:05 | Therx | ok, the ipod is scsi4, so which /dev/sd does that make it? |
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| 20:34:51 | linuxstb_ | Just type "fdisk -l" - that will list all devices |
| 20:34:59 | Therx | yeh got it |
| 20:36:21 | Therx | k, my apple_os.bin is 4.8mb - that about right? |
| 20:36:37 | preglow | for nano it is completely right |
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| 20:38:56 | Therx | is the bootloader.bin file created from the build what i should use as "rockboot.bin" as per the instructions (sorry for all these questions where i thknk i know the answer, but i really don't want to muck up) |
| 20:39:37 | linuxstb_ | No, you use the ../tools/ipod_fw utility to merge apple_os.bin and bootloader.bin to create rockboot.bin |
| 20:39:49 | Therx | ah yes, ok thx |
| 20:40:51 | Therx | i presume that "Generating firmware image compatible with iPod mini, 4g and iPod photo/color..." is jhust a generic thing, and that it does in fact also support the nano (i did use "-g nano") |
| 20:41:42 | linuxstb_ | Yes. |
| 20:44:17 | Therx | for doing partitions so it's IPL compatible, should I just use the IPL instructions? |
| 20:45:17 | linuxstb_ | Yes, but make sure you follow the latest instructions - http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_From_Linux |
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| 20:46:21 | aegray | anyone with 5g? |
| 20:46:26 | aegray | 5g ipod* |
| 20:46:55 | Therx | kk, |
| 20:47:05 | * | Therx now nervous about actually writing to ipod... |
| 20:47:20 | preglow | it's not dangerous |
| 20:47:22 | preglow | it always survives |
| 20:47:31 | linuxstb_ | aegray: I've got one. |
| 20:48:57 | markun | Could we change the colors in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison a bit? |
| 20:49:20 | markun | They couldn't have been worse for a color blind person :) |
| 20:49:27 | Therx | and i'll still be able to use itunes from windows etc, just having to hold down menu when it switches on? |
| 20:49:40 | linuxstb_ | Yes - or switch it on first. |
| 20:49:47 | aegray | linuxstb_: can you go into diag mode for me? |
| 20:50:40 | linuxstb_ | I'm there. |
| 20:50:48 | aegray | can you find if theres an audio test somewhere? |
| 20:50:53 | aegray | and how you would get there |
| 20:51:29 | Therx | hmm, on the partition table (as is, unchanged), there aren't any bootable partitions... does this matter? |
| 20:51:48 | aegray | make 1+2 bootable/active |
| 20:54:40 | Therx | how come it works without? |
| 20:55:16 | aegray | dunno |
| 20:56:36 | linuxstb_ | aegray: No, there doesn't seem to be an audio test that I can see. The closest is headphone detect. |
| 20:56:40 | aegray | :( |
| 20:56:45 | aegray | that makes things harder :/ |
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| 20:57:40 | linuxstb_ | Yep. But the headphone detect could possibly provide a clue - isn't that a feature of the codec? |
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| 20:57:48 | Therx | linuxstb: k, IPL seems like too much of a pain (i.e. i'm scared), is there a ipod rockbox image around? |
| 20:58:00 | aegray | linuxstb_: yea it is, but we re'd that and its driven by a gpio i think |
| 20:58:04 | aegray | hahaha |
| 20:58:09 | Therx | or can i just compile it from the cvs stuff |
| 20:58:16 | linuxstb_ | :( |
| 20:59:06 | aegray | they hate us |
| 20:59:07 | linuxstb_ | Therx: Yes, just compile from cvs - create a build directory, run ../tools/configure (select Normal build), type make, then "make zip", and then unzip the resulting rockbox.zip file to the root of your Nano's fat32 partition. |
| 20:59:10 | aegray | they just want to make it hard |
| 20:59:22 | * | aegray dives into the retailos again |
| 20:59:34 | Therx | awesome, nice and easy |
| 20:59:52 | linuxstb_ | aegray: Has any ventured into dissassembling an ipod and attempting to draw schemetics? |
| 20:59:58 | linuxstb_ | s/any/anyone/ |
| 20:59:59 | Therx | lol |
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| 21:00:04 | aegray | :O |
| 21:00:06 | Therx | don't think so |
| 21:00:26 | aegray | not to my knowledge |
| 21:00:26 | Therx | wouldn't really be possible as i'm sure for such a compact design, the pcb will have internal layers |
| 21:00:29 | aegray | that would be pretty hard |
| 21:01:21 | linuxstb_ | LinusN has done similar things for other Rockbox players - it involves unsoldering all the chips from the pcb. He doesn't put them back together again.... |
| 21:01:42 | linuxstb_ | I keep suggesting he buys an ipod, but he hasn't bitten yet. |
| 21:01:45 | aegray | that's pretty nuts - I generally don't have 300$ to blow |
| 21:01:57 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:02:27 | Therx | "wpsbuild notice: No remote LCD size, skipping rockbox_default.rwps |
| 21:02:27 | Therx | " <−−- that matter? |
| 21:02:28 | preglow | pf |
| 21:02:30 | preglow | think of the fame! |
| 21:02:33 | preglow | the glory! |
| 21:02:40 | aegray | haha |
| 21:02:44 | Therx | i'm sure apple would try and sue knowing them though |
| 21:02:55 | preglow | for doing what? |
| 21:03:08 | * | aegray doesn't get it either |
| 21:03:39 | Therx | reverse engineering |
| 21:03:41 | linuxstb_ | Do the older ipods have an audiotest in the diagnostics? |
| 21:03:44 | aegray | yea |
| 21:03:57 | preglow | reverse engineering is very legal |
| 21:04:15 | Therx | erm, i wouldn't be surprised if the EULA says against it |
| 21:04:22 | aegray | oh well |
| 21:04:29 | preglow | the eula can't forbid you reverse engineering |
| 21:04:30 | aegray | they haven't sued in 3 years of this so i doubt it |
| 21:04:46 | Therx | it's kinda the same as decompiling windows and releasing the source code wouldn't go down well. |
| 21:04:48 | preglow | an eula can say whatever it wishes, that doesn't make it legal |
| 21:04:49 | Therx | true |
| 21:05:02 | preglow | Therx: releasing the soure code, no, but describiing how the source code works, yes |
| 21:05:07 | Therx | suppose it doesn't matter since you still have to buy the ipod |
| 21:05:23 | Therx | btw, did that No remote LCD size message matter? |
| 21:05:24 | preglow | which would more or less be what you're doing if you're disassembling an ipod and drawing your own schematic on how it works |
| 21:06:40 | aegray | hrm this will be much less fun.. |
| 21:07:33 | Therx | bbl, eatting - then i'll bite the bullet and put all the stuff on the ipod. |
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| 21:13:49 | linuxstb_ | Therx: No, you can ignore that message - it's because the ipod doesn't have a remote control with LCD. (at least not one Rockbox supports). |
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| 21:32:56 | webguest49 | Is anyone working on the SDL simulator? |
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| 21:33:17 | webguest49 | Under Win32 that is. |
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| 21:35:40 | linuxstb | Not as far as I know. Are you offering? :) |
| 21:36:33 | lostlogic | hmmm... we currently have a relatively arbitrary (128) number of pcmbufdesc structs in pcmbuf.c −− this number should in some way be related to the data size of the pcmbuffer. |
| 21:36:45 | webguest49 | I'm looking at it |
| 21:37:00 | preglow | webguest49: work on the sdl sim is greatly appreciated |
| 21:37:12 | preglow | webguest49: and as it happens, making it work properly under win32 is sorely needed |
| 21:38:37 | webguest49 | Cool. I'll see what I can do. I've got it compiling cleanly under Cygwin already. |
| 21:39:08 | linuxstb | That's more than anyone else has done. |
| 21:39:19 | linuxstb | What problems are there? |
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| 21:39:47 | webguest49 | So far just replacing sleep() and usleep() with SDL_Delay() |
| 21:40:16 | webguest49 | Oh, and gettimeofday becomes SDL_GetTicks() |
| 21:41:51 | webguest49 | Codec plugins don't seem to load |
| 21:42:09 | webguest49 | And if you alt-tab away it locks up |
| 21:42:21 | linuxstb | Does the keyboard stuff work? |
| 21:42:36 | preglow | dhmm |
| 21:42:42 | preglow | usleep wont work in sdl |
| 21:42:49 | preglow | sdl's only got msec precision timers |
| 21:43:55 | linuxstb | It's only used in the uisimulator sound.c by the looks of it. |
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| 21:44:20 | LinusN | webguest49: there is a huge problem with the sdl sim |
| 21:44:20 | linuxstb | But that could be an easy macro I assume. |
| 21:44:55 | LinusN | in win32, only the main thread can receive events |
| 21:45:06 | Therx | erm, how do i eject the ipod? |
| 21:45:25 | linuxstb | You don't. If no partitions are mounted, just unplug it. |
| 21:45:33 | LinusN | so the button thread won't receive any, and the event queue gets full |
| 21:45:45 | dwihno | YES! |
| 21:45:46 | LinusN | that's why alt-tab locks it up |
| 21:45:54 | webguest49 | Keyboard does work sort of |
| 21:45:57 | dwihno | After seven years and fifty days, I got the USB-boot-stuff working! |
| 21:46:11 | dwihno | Damn you, Slackware, for not supplying usb boot disks! |
| 21:46:16 | webguest49 | Ah, that explains that then. |
| 21:47:07 | LinusN | my suggestion is to let app_main() run in a new thread and let the main thread receive the events and pass them on to the button driver |
| 21:47:20 | webguest49 | And here I was thinking it would be simple to fix. |
| 21:47:21 | LinusN | s/driver/thread/ |
| 21:47:33 | LinusN | me too, until i discovered this today |
| 21:48:49 | Therx | it works :P deving starts next week |
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| 22:12:17 | [IDC]Dragon | hi there! |
| 22:12:25 | amiconn | hi |
| 22:12:28 | * | amiconn is back |
| 22:12:35 | [IDC]Dragon | nice |
| 22:12:53 | [IDC]Dragon | I read about an issue with AT&T |
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| 22:15:01 | [IDC]Dragon | was that a letter from a lawyer? |
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| 22:17:05 | Bagder | [IDC]Dragon: no, but from the company handling the AT&T licenses |
| 22:17:10 | lostlogic | Slasheri: would you be offended if I did some very invasive surgery on the software codec audio architecture? |
| 22:17:29 | [IDC]Dragon | are they asking for money? |
| 22:18:24 | Bagder | no, they just say we're not allowed to distribute those files since we're not a customer of theirs |
| 22:18:34 | markun | which files? |
| 22:18:45 | [IDC]Dragon | "we"? |
| 22:19:39 | Bagder | check an inbox near you |
| 22:20:10 | preglow | lostlogic: anything fun? |
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| 22:20:42 | markun | Ah, the voice files.. |
| 22:21:20 | amiconn | The license somewhat contradicts itself... |
| 22:21:28 | webguest44 | wierd, iaudio's x5 firmware seams to have to overlapping section when copying from flash to iram/sdram |
| 22:21:34 | webguest44 | sections |
| 22:21:49 | Bagder | webguest44: overlapping how? |
| 22:22:55 | lostlogic | preglow: Well, I'm looking at it, and there is a fair amount of wasted logic in the pcm buffer which revolves around allowing writers to write over the end of the buffer and copying that information to the beginning of the buffer |
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| 22:23:17 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm |
| 22:23:30 | [IDC]Dragon | it's directed to Jens |
| 22:23:44 | [IDC]Dragon | who is a customer |
| 22:23:51 | preglow | lostlogic: i'd say just start your work, i very much doubt slasheri would mind, unless he has something to say on your approach |
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| 22:24:19 | lostlogic | preglow: I just don't want to step on his toes if he is currently working on enhancing the system |
| 22:24:28 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe they misunderstood we're not distributing their software or parts of |
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| 22:24:47 | preglow | lostlogic: i very much doubt he is |
| 22:24:49 | Bger | lostlogic i don't think he is working on the playback engine atm |
| 22:24:56 | lostlogic | okies |
| 22:25:05 | Bger | he is working on tagcache and h1x0 flashing. . |
| 22:25:06 | Bger | at |
| 22:25:07 | Bger | m |
| 22:25:08 | preglow | yep |
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| 22:25:38 | webguest44 | Bagder: |
| 22:25:39 | preglow | but of course, do talk to him when he turns around, there's no way to know what he's got he's working on |
| 22:25:44 | webguest44 | aegray: source dest_start dest_end |
| 22:25:49 | preglow | he does have a tendency to surprise :) |
| 22:25:51 | webguest44 | 0x11A8FE -> 0x100148F0 - 0x10015154 |
| 22:25:54 | webguest44 | 0x11E55C -> 0x10016344 - 0x1001CB82 |
| 22:25:54 | lostlogic | I'm also trying to come up with a solution better than a "guessed" number of pcmbufdesc structs to poitn to sections of the pcmbuf... maybe involving linked lists similar to what profiling uses because they are fast in cases like this where linear traversal is not always the goal. |
| 22:25:56 | webguest44 | 0x124D9A -> 0x10014BBC - 0x10015C94 |
| 22:26:14 | webguest44 | source -> dest_start - dest_end |
| 22:26:32 | webguest44 | so block 3 will overwrite part of block 1 |
| 22:27:35 | Bagder | :-) |
| 22:28:01 | webguest44 | newbe korean embedded programmers :) |
| 22:28:20 | linuxstb__ | lostlogic: From what you've seen of the playback code, will there be much work involved to support players (i.e. the iPod) with audio hardware capable of samplerates other than 48KHz. |
| 22:28:58 | lostlogic | linuxstb__: 44100 is hardcoded in a few places, but moving it to a define should solve the problem, I don't see any particular complications. |
| 22:29:48 | linuxstb__ | I'm thinking more of keeping track of the different samplerates of the data in the pcm buffer. |
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| 22:30:24 | Therx | are there any "demo" kernels around for the ipod which i could look at to start learning the architecture? |
| 22:30:58 | Bger | Therx there's more than kernel |
| 22:31:02 | Bger | for 4g color |
| 22:31:13 | Bger | there's working rockbox, but without sound |
| 22:31:14 | Bger | :) |
| 22:31:40 | Therx | i mean so that i can learn... (i.e. the whole rockbox source tree is a bit overwhelming) |
| 22:31:54 | Bger | Therx i don't think so |
| 22:32:09 | Bger | but if you want to get into the things ... start reading from apps/main.c :)) |
| 22:32:31 | lostlogic | linuxstb__: hmm... for things like crossfading it will be ugly, but in general, I don't think the pcmbuffer cares, it' just feeds the data to the DAC over DMA |
| 22:33:08 | lostlogic | linuxstb__: how does the output hardware support changing between frequencies? Does the DMA have to be restarted for it? |
| 22:33:19 | Bger | lostlogic didn't you lost the logic while tracing the playback engine ... :) |
| 22:33:26 | Therx | isn't that user side though, rather than kernel |
| 22:33:49 | Bger | Therx ah, yep |
| 22:33:53 | lostlogic | Bger: yes, my head almost exploded, and I still don't have the crossfade handling fully understood, but I'm maknig progress |
| 22:34:12 | Bger | u're brave... |
| 22:34:15 | amiconn | LinusN: r u there? |
| 22:34:21 | preglow | crossfading does not need to work proper for tracks changing sample rate |
| 22:34:23 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:34:41 | preglow | i can think of no way to make that work properly without huge hungs of special case handling |
| 22:34:42 | Therx | i;ve done some OS stuff before, just not on an ipod |
| 22:34:43 | Bagder | Therx: the kernel is very small, see firmware/kernel.c and thread.c |
| 22:34:56 | Therx | is that it? (plus drivers) |
| 22:35:02 | lostlogic | preglow: yeah, I guess we would have to track in the pcmbuffer what type of data we were dealing with so we can tell when not to crossfade |
| 22:35:06 | Bagder | yes, basically |
| 22:35:25 | preglow | yes we would |
| 22:36:08 | lostlogic | The way I'm envisioning modifying the pcmbuf code, it will be much easier to do, because the code doing the writing to the buffer will fill out the details in the description struct, including sample rate on platforms supporting variable sample rates |
| 22:36:13 | lostlogic | (now that you mention that :)) |
| 22:37:08 | linuxstb__ | lostlogic: OK. I just wanted to mention it so you would keep it in mind :) |
| 22:37:31 | lostlogic | linuxstb__: yeah, I will. and I'll make sure that any hard coded sample rates are defined or variable as I work on it. |
| 22:38:24 | linuxstb__ | preglow: cross-faders I've seen always force you to fix the samplerate - so you are constantly resampling. |
| 22:40:10 | preglow | linuxstb__: that'd work too |
| 22:41:15 | linuxstb__ | So we could simply force 44.1KHz if cross-fade is enabled. |
| 22:41:27 | linuxstb__ | (or 48KHz if your resampling code is up to it) |
| 22:41:41 | linuxstb__ | I mean - give the user the choice. |
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| 22:42:09 | preglow | sure |
| 22:42:34 | amiconn | lostlogic: Do not forget the voice codec... |
| 22:42:37 | preglow | my current resampler isn't really anything to go by, but hey |
| 22:42:54 | preglow | we also need to address the latency issue soon |
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| 22:48:13 | Paprica | mmm |
| 22:48:30 | Paprica | how am i need to write: |
| 22:48:40 | Paprica | ... was updated |
| 22:48:41 | Paprica | or |
| 22:48:48 | Paprica | ... is updated |
| 22:50:08 | lostlogic | amiconn: yes, that and crossfade are the parts that my understanding is not yet sufficient to start work on this thing... I might do some code up that doesn't handle the complex features first to test performance and feasibility of my ideas and come back in a second pass for crossfade and voice. |
| 22:50:32 | lostlogic | amiconn: voice adds a really nice complication to an otherwise "simple" reader-writer problem :) |
| 22:50:54 | amiconn | Voice handling is a bit buggy as it is |
| 22:51:05 | amiconn | e.g. it doesn't work when music is paused |
| 22:51:48 | lostlogic | amiconn: unfortunately pausing music pauses the DMA, but keeps the pcmbuffer full, so voice would have to be independently buffered, or the pcmbuffer would have to be cleared and refilled for that to work. |
| 22:52:28 | amiconn | Imho the dma could continue to run and output zeroes. |
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| 22:56:17 | preglow | lostlogic: really is a relief to see someone else than slasheri understanding the playback system |
| 22:56:39 | lostlogic | preglow: am doing my best... it's quite complex, what with 3 threads, and 2 buffers to manage |
| 22:56:55 | lostlogic | :) |
| 22:57:01 | preglow | yeah, it is, that's why i appreciate it so much |
| 22:57:12 | * | [IDC]Dragon thinks about the Archos rec/playback system these days |
| 22:57:39 | preglow | i hope he is thinking about unifying the playback systems! |
| 22:57:42 | Paprica | new version of brickmania has released |
| 22:57:43 | preglow | :) |
| 22:57:43 | lostlogic | I'm rather surprised that none of you other smart people had dug into it... |
| 22:57:48 | Paprica | http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.de/ |
| 22:58:02 | * | LinusN looks in the patch tracker |
| 22:58:04 | Bagder | Paprica: patch tracker please |
| 22:58:14 | preglow | lostlogic: been rather intimidated by it, plus i've never really had to |
| 22:58:16 | Paprica | for bruck mania? |
| 22:58:19 | Paprica | brick |
| 22:58:20 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:58:27 | [IDC]Dragon | I don't know how you do it for the s/w codec platforms |
| 22:58:27 | Paprica | ah ok ;] |
| 22:58:40 | lostlogic | preglow: yeah, I guess my interest in the AB repeat and my obsession with performance naturally landed me in it :) |
| 22:58:41 | Bagder | Paprica: for _anything_ adding to Rockbox |
| 22:58:56 | Paprica | =] |
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| 23:01:06 | Paprica | blah |
| 23:01:15 | Paprica | i have a bitmap change |
| 23:01:19 | Paprica | add the bitmap too? |
| 23:01:25 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:01:30 | Paprica | ok |
| 23:01:43 | Paprica | mmm patch or source? |
| 23:01:48 | LinusN | patch |
| 23:01:52 | preglow | lostlogic: but yeah, if the playback system can be simplified or made more effective in any way, thumbs up |
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| 23:02:09 | Paprica | ok, then i need a few minutes |
| 23:02:20 | aegray | webguest44: ? |
| 23:02:36 | Kyl3 | Can anyone DCC me a list.h file from the CVS? |
| 23:03:10 | Bagder | Kyl3: get it from the cvsweb |
| 23:03:27 | * | aegray confused |
| 23:03:42 | Kyl3 | I tried it said it couldnt find an .cvsroot file for reading |
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| 23:03:47 | Kyl3 | or something like that |
| 23:04:31 | Kyl3 | oh wait it works now |
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| 23:09:47 | webguest12 | Hello? Anyone here? |
| 23:10:01 | Therx | yep |
| 23:10:12 | webguest12 | hey, do you know much about rockbox? |
| 23:10:18 | webguest12 | are you a developer or user? |
| 23:10:25 | LinusN | does it matter? |
| 23:10:27 | Bagder | just ask |
| 23:10:37 | Bagder | and you'll find out |
| 23:11:26 | webguest12 | oh, just wondering, this is cormie from the mysticriver board, not sure what the story is with what I should be asking here and I'm not sure if it's known or unknown but there are some issues with crossfade/mix options. |
| 23:12:05 | LinusN | describe the issues |
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| 23:13:43 | Therx | i;m a n00b, sry |
| 23:13:56 | webguest12 | These issues have only been present since the options of crossfade fade in/out delay/duration were applied, before when it was a simple crossfade/mix/off option and then the duration up to 14 seconds, it worked perfect. Anyway, when you have mix selected and the fade in/out duration at 15 seconds, it cuts off and doesn't fully fade out. I don't think it mixes like it used to either. |
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| 23:14:58 | LinusN | webguest12: it would be easier for us if you could present a step-by-step instruction on how to reproduce the error |
| 23:15:01 | Bger | nite |
| 23:15:47 | Paprica | LinusN, its in the patch traker now |
| 23:15:52 | LinusN | good |
| 23:15:53 | XavierGr | nite Bger |
| 23:16:39 | webguest12 | ok, if you have your H1XX there, just switch it on and put the fade in/out duration to 15 seconds and put it to mix. The best way to hear this is by playing a song and while it's loud, skip to a song with a low intro, you will hear the way it just cuts off the song towards the end of the mix. |
| 23:16:45 | XavierGr | LinusN: Did you deleted the Battery Benchmark plugin on the Tracker? |
| 23:17:06 | LinusN | XavierGr: no |
| 23:17:13 | preglow | the current crossfade options are bit hard to understand |
| 23:17:24 | preglow | slasheri was going to simplify them, but it hasn't happened yet |
| 23:17:45 | XavierGr | Linus: If a dev can do it, please do. |
| 23:18:07 | webguest12 | but there will probably still be the glitches even if the options are simplified no? |
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| 23:19:07 | Rob2222 | That "debug screen then plug in USB" to get usb charging works. ATM my iriver is consuming 300mA over USB and is charging the battery. |
| 23:19:47 | Rob2222 | even RB works it has not enough power to start playback / fire up the HDD |
| 23:20:22 | lostlogic | Rob2222: so when in USB charge mode through that trick, it cannot spin up the disk? |
| 23:20:39 | preglow | doesn't mix turn off crossfading and just overlap the tracks? |
| 23:20:46 | Rob2222 | well, my battery was 101% empty. ^^ |
| 23:20:56 | Rob2222 | maybe it works if the battery has some power |
| 23:21:01 | Rob2222 | but i doesnt work atm |
| 23:21:03 | Rob2222 | it |
| 23:21:12 | lostlogic | Rob2222: ok, this is interesting, keep us posted :) |
| 23:21:22 | Rob2222 | i can still use RB but doesnt start playback. |
| 23:21:35 | Rob2222 | he tries to start the disk, the current rises |
| 23:21:42 | Rob2222 | and then the disk goes off again. |
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| 23:22:11 | Rob2222 | looks like the LX2201 is observing that the H300 doesnt consumes more than 500mA over USB |
| 23:22:31 | Xerion_ | doesn't the battery die when you drain it too far? :p |
| 23:22:44 | webguest12 | http://www.misticriver.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2547&stc=1 that's the difference between crossfade and mix, option a is crossfade and b is mix |
| 23:22:53 | Rob2222 | i didnt drained it to far. was normal shutoff. |
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| 23:23:00 | Xerion_ | k :p |
| 23:23:42 | Rob2222 | i really would like to know the current between H300 and the battery. |
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| 23:24:54 | muesli__ | Paprica ur gettin evil and more evil! :D |
| 23:25:02 | muesli__ | wont upgrade! |
| 23:25:04 | muesli__ | ;) |
| 23:25:12 | Paprica | ;] |
| 23:25:19 | Rob2222 | The only strange thing is, that the H300 consumes 307-310mA when the backlight is on and the same! when the backlight is off. |
| 23:25:43 | Rob2222 | But the battery voltage is rising slowly |
| 23:26:03 | Rob2222 | ah, its not strange ... |
| 23:26:28 | webguest12 | did you get that link preglow? |
| 23:26:36 | webguest12 | Linus? |
| 23:26:57 | Rob2222 | can it be... the LX2201 is getting 310mA from USB now, and powers mainly the unit. and with the current not needed for the unit it charges the battery. |
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| 23:31:28 | Rob2222 | Why is VIEW IO PORTS showing 3,5V and VIEW BATTERY 3,16V? |
| 23:32:01 | LinusN | good question |
| 23:32:11 | XavierGr | What is the equelevant of excel in Open Office? |
| 23:32:22 | Bagder | calc |
| 23:34:18 | Rob2222 | VIEW BATTERY doesnt get updated as it semms. |
| 23:34:33 | webguest12 | LinusN: did you see what I said above about the errors and how to reproduce them? |
| 23:35:12 | [IDC]Dragon | nite |
| 23:35:13 | LinusN | Rob2222: View Battery reads the wrong data |
| 23:35:20 | | Part [IDC]Dragon |
| 23:35:29 | LinusN | webguest12: yes |
| 23:35:29 | XavierGr | webguest12 better tell this error to Slasheri |
| 23:35:33 | Rob2222 | LinusN: They didnt read all the same? |
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| 23:35:54 | San||Away | can the H300 charge via USB in rockbox? |
| 23:36:00 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 23:36:02 | LinusN | the view battery screen is designed for the archos |
| 23:36:14 | amiconn | Today I noticed that 'View runtime' doesn't work correctly on H300 |
| 23:36:21 | amiconn | (and perhaps H1x0 tto) |
| 23:36:24 | amiconn | *too |
| 23:36:32 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Well, but it workes OK for me, until I "raped" my H300 now. |
| 23:36:55 | webguest12 | Do you think if I PM Slasheri he'll get it? This is my first time using IRC for Rockbox, not sure who frequents it. |
| 23:37:18 | Rob2222 | LinusN: I think the screen doesnt get updated atm cause the "half usb mode" |
| 23:37:24 | XavierGr | webguest if you are registered ha may be able to see your PM |
| 23:37:36 | amiconn | Rob2222, LinusN: Afaik, 'view battery' uses the filtered voltage while the voltage display on the I/O screen is unfiltered |
| 23:38:33 | LinusN | amiconn: correct |
| 23:40:04 | muesli__ | does somebody know if batteries for h1xx/h3xx can be used in a pmp 1xx ? |
| 23:40:09 | Rob2222 | San||Away: There is a trick to make it USB charging. |
| 23:40:55 | San||Away | yeah, care to explain? |
| 23:40:58 | San||Away | A patch? |
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| 23:41:06 | Rob2222 | But I didnt know any side effects! |
| 23:41:22 | webguest12 | I'm not registered, does this mean I can not pm Slasheri? |
| 23:41:34 | Rob2222 | but it looks like the player doesnt consume more than 500mA so it should be safe |
| 23:42:04 | Rob2222 | San||Away: Simply get to debug menu => view IO and connect USB while in that screen. |
| 23:42:40 | Rob2222 | But this is not planned so. |
| 23:43:03 | Rob2222 | So dont blame anyone for strange behaviour ;) |
| 23:43:06 | San||Away | ok |
| 23:43:16 | Rob2222 | But it looks like it works. |
| 23:43:25 | Rob2222 | Charging my battery so. Right atm. |
| 23:45:26 | XavierGr | webguest12: yes |
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| 23:46:44 | muesli__ | Paprica query |
| 23:46:48 | owang | hey |
| 23:47:10 | owang | question, the archos decodes mp3 in hardware and the iriver in software? |
| 23:47:12 | Paprica | k |
| 23:47:22 | LinusN | owang: yes |
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| 23:47:48 | Rob2222 | the iriver hasnt a hardware decoder? |
| 23:48:05 | owang | in the source it looks like the mp3_playback file is defined for the archos MAS chip |
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| 23:48:58 | owang | is that where the mp3 decoding is done? |
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| 23:49:19 | linuxstb | Yes |
| 23:49:55 | Paprica | linuxstb, you see the last brick mania version? =] |
| 23:50:03 | LinusN | owang: not decoding, just sending the mp3 data to the mas |
| 23:50:06 | owang | im trying to hook into the output of the decoder before the singnal goes through the analog conversion to put some filters |
| 23:50:12 | linuxstb | Paprica: I'm just about to test it now. |
| 23:50:22 | owang | yea thats what it looks like, where is the iriver code for decoding? |
| 23:50:39 | Paprica | ah =] ok |
| 23:50:40 | LinusN | owang: you want to look in apps/dsp.c |
| 23:50:49 | Paprica | enjoy ;] |
| 23:50:55 | preglow | owang: what kind of filters? |
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| 23:50:58 | LinusN | owang: but you also want to talk to thom johansen, preglow |
| 23:51:04 | owang | ohh awsome thanks. |
| 23:51:33 | owang | well to start i was going to write a standard multiband equalizer, but play from there after i figure stuff out |
| 23:51:50 | Bagder | hehe |
| 23:52:00 | preglow | owang: dsp_process is the place to insert effects |
| 23:52:07 | preglow | owang: well, have you got any filters? |
| 23:52:09 | owang | ls |
| 23:52:18 | owang | yea sorta, i mean theortically |
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| 23:53:03 | preglow | details, please |
| 23:53:03 | owang | its sort of a programing exercise for me to see if i can implement them |
| 23:53:15 | preglow | 'cause i've pretty much more or less already got some filters ready |
| 23:53:18 | preglow | would be great to compare |
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| 23:53:56 | LinusN | preglow: anything more than white noise from your filters yet? :-) |
| 23:53:57 | owang | oh cool. yea totally, itll have to be in a little while tho, cause im just starting now |
| 23:54:33 | owang | like i do digital audio, so i know what kind of filters i would want, but im just starting to look at code :P |
| 23:54:34 | preglow | owang: good at fixed point math? |
| 23:54:39 | preglow | LinusN: haven't had time for any more |
| 23:54:50 | LinusN | ok |
| 23:54:55 | preglow | i can make them output eqish sound, but there's a precision problem somewhere, and god damn if i know where |
| 23:55:00 | LinusN | noise is nice too :-) |
| 23:55:11 | owang | ive had some experience with it |
| 23:55:14 | preglow | they worked just fine using fixed point arithetic on my computer :/ |
| 23:55:18 | preglow | arithmetic |
| 23:55:34 | webguest12 | Sorry guys, what's slasheri's nick on mystic, just want to send him a PM :) |
| 23:55:48 | preglow | webguest12: what makes you think he's even got a mistic login? |
| 23:55:51 | Bagder | webguest12: I doubt he's ever there |
| 23:55:57 | owang | one of my friends did his dissertation on fixed point arithmetic problems and stuff recently. so i can ask him |
| 23:56:17 | preglow | owang: cool, we need more dsp guys |
| 23:56:22 | preglow | since currently there's just me |
| 23:56:27 | webguest12 | I don't know, I heard his name mentioned a few times at MR. What's the best way to contact him? |
| 23:56:28 | preglow | and i'm pretty slow |
| 23:56:29 | owang | hehe |
| 23:56:32 | Bagder | webguest12: I'd suggest posting to the rockbox mailing list |
| 23:56:52 | Bagder | that's where _real_ rockbox stuff is dealt with |
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| 23:57:04 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:57:13 | webguest12 | Badger: where is that? |
| 23:57:24 | Bagder | see http://www.rockbox.org/mail/ |
| 23:57:46 | webguest12 | Badger: thanks, is my name orange since I did Badger: at the start? |
| 23:57:52 | owang | cool. well hopefully ill be able to understand the code and do somthing useful. heh |
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