| 00:00:29 | owang | do we have specs for coldfire up anywhere? |
| 00:00:51 | preglow | sure, in the wiki |
| 00:00:52 | preglow | datasheets page |
| 00:01:24 | owang | what % of rockbox users do you guys suppose is iriver :P |
| 00:01:57 | Bagder | that's quite impossible to even guesstimate |
| 00:02:25 | owang | binary downloads can be tracked? |
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| 00:02:51 | Bagder | sure, but that's not a reliable number |
| 00:03:05 | Bagder | and we've supported Archos for 4 years soon |
| 00:03:51 | Bagder | I think we can be sure that the amount of iriver users are rising and the amount of Archos users are declining |
| 00:03:58 | Midgey34 | link on the build table isn't working |
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| 00:04:05 | Midgey34 | 403 Forbidden |
| 00:04:26 | linuxstb | There are also new players Rockbox is being ported to (iPod, iAudio) - these will all use the same software decoding that the iriver does. |
| 00:04:52 | Bagder | Midgey34: oops, me broken it... |
| 00:04:55 | owang | oh cool |
| 00:05:07 | owang | yea i suppose an ipod port would be a windfall. heh |
| 00:05:08 | linuxstb | Bagder: How many points for a broken build table? |
| 00:05:23 | preglow | he's fixing the contest! |
| 00:05:24 | Bagder | uuuhmmm... |
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| 00:11:30 | amiconn | Bagder? |
| 00:11:41 | amiconn | Ah, s/o already mentioned the 403... |
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| 00:12:33 | lostlogic | hmm, breaking all the simulators is worth 360 points. will keep this in mind. :) |
| 00:12:54 | Bagder | errors * 10 + warnings actually |
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| 00:13:37 | LedFloyd | Hey guys, I have an H320, I'm just wondering if the definition of "shuffle" under the Crossfade menu has changed |
| 00:14:22 | LedFloyd | In the "Enable Crossfade" section. |
| 00:15:09 | XavierGr | How would you calculate a real % battery estimation? Based on total time or maximum voltage? |
| 00:15:11 | amiconn | Bagder: I remember days where we had 300+ warnings *per build*. Would give a 'nice' score... |
| 00:15:19 | Bagder | hehe |
| 00:15:30 | Bagder | and with more targets, you get better chance for highscore! |
| 00:15:47 | amiconn | Indeed |
| 00:15:56 | LedFloyd | Aaanyone? |
| 00:16:08 | amiconn | You could re-add the gmini builds to make it harder ;) |
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| 00:16:21 | Bagder | hehe |
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| 00:17:28 | lostlogic | XavierGr: LiIon/LiPoly is hard to estimate, because different batteries and different ages of the same battery will show a different voltage profile. |
| 00:17:31 | formattinghdd | hi there |
| 00:18:14 | formattinghdd | anybody knows how long it should take to format my 20gb drive in the ihp 120? |
| 00:18:29 | XavierGr | Lostlogic: So if you have the runtime, would you choose runtime to represent % level? |
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| 00:18:46 | LedFloyd | formatting: that really depends on how fragmented it is :P |
| 00:18:53 | LedFloyd | woops. |
| 00:18:54 | Domonoky | now brickmania on h1x0 is playable.. added some sleep, so it doesnt run as fast as it can.. (atleast on h1x0 its too fast :-) |
| 00:18:55 | LedFloyd | read that wrong |
| 00:19:30 | ashridah | formattinghdd: almost no time at all, if you use iriver's firmware interface, i generally find. |
| 00:19:56 | ashridah | all it does is rewrite the partition table and build new FAT's |
| 00:20:49 | Domonoky | for h1x0: http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmania.rock |
| 00:21:06 | formattinghdd | well. i dropped it long time ago, hdd partly worked. a friend of mine told me formating could "recover" my hdd (i know it doesn´t realy recover it). i´m formating it with standard windows tool |
| 00:21:07 | Domonoky | if anyone likes to try :-) |
| 00:21:12 | preglow | hmm |
| 00:21:19 | preglow | someone should add proper framerate handling |
| 00:21:37 | Domonoky | i tried. but it isnt elegant. :-) |
| 00:21:45 | lostlogic | XavierGr: not sure I follow |
| 00:22:35 | formattinghdd | oh god. the bar is finally moving on. thank you guys anyways, i´m just gettin realy nervous when something seems to go wrong |
| 00:22:41 | ashridah | formattinghdd: formatting it is probably going to make things worse, not better. |
| 00:23:04 | ashridah | if the surface has been damaged, the damage can only get worse. |
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| 00:23:27 | ashridah | that said, in the best case, hopefully it'll have just marked the affected sectors as 'bad' so at least it won't try to reuse them |
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| 00:30:28 | Rob2222 | aaaah Linus, thank you :) |
| 00:30:40 | Rob2222 | uh he isnt hear anymore |
| 00:30:53 | preglow | just like me! |
| 00:30:55 | preglow | *poof* |
| 00:33:23 | Rob2222 | H300 USB mode :) |
| 00:33:32 | Rob2222 | usb charge mode |
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| 00:50:59 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Thx for USB charging mode :) |
| 00:51:10 | LinusN | you're welcome |
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| 01:08:23 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Did I see right, USB charging is made with 3 simple defines? |
| 01:09:22 | Rob2222 | ahh i understand |
| 01:09:36 | Rob2222 | it just was enabled for H300 |
| 01:09:38 | Rob2222 | nice |
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| 01:14:28 | amiconn | XavierGr: Are you still editing http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginBatteryBenchmark ? |
| 01:17:42 | Rob2222 | LinusN: The charging indicator (blinking battery) doesnt blink in USB charge mode, even that the charging indicator pin indicates charging. is this normal? |
| 01:18:19 | lostlogic | hmmm, that's odd |
| 01:18:20 | Rob2222 | But theres a cute plug next to it :) |
| 01:18:34 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: theres a plug now |
| 01:18:44 | LinusN | the usb charging fix just disables the usb mode |
| 01:18:57 | LinusN | the charging code still needs fixing |
| 01:19:03 | lostlogic | I'll take a look |
| 01:19:25 | * | LinusN just fried his bdm-enabled h320 :-( |
| 01:19:38 | amiconn | :-( |
| 01:19:46 | lostlogic | :(:( |
| 01:20:20 | LinusN | time to go ebaying again... |
| 01:20:27 | Rob2222 | But with the USB charging patch the HD runs and it now consumes full 500mA from USB. with the debug trick it only consumed max 300mA (i think cause the non turning HD) |
| 01:20:33 | Rob2222 | hugh? |
| 01:20:43 | Rob2222 | really bricked? |
| 01:20:46 | Rob2222 | how that? |
| 01:20:48 | amiconn | LinusN: What happened? |
| 01:21:04 | lostlogic | Rob2222: yeah, that would make sense, the player probably thought it was in USB mode so wouldn't try to do anything with the disk |
| 01:21:19 | LinusN | connected a power supply instead of the battery, and the h320 didn't like it |
| 01:21:36 | Rob2222 | really???? |
| 01:21:42 | Rob2222 | with correct battery voltage? |
| 01:21:45 | LinusN | for some reason |
| 01:21:50 | LinusN | 3.8V |
| 01:21:55 | Rob2222 | wtf... |
| 01:22:01 | Rob2222 | i wanted to make the same!!! |
| 01:22:18 | LinusN | should work, i must have done something wrong |
| 01:22:18 | Rob2222 | i only didnt have purchased a power supply yet |
| 01:23:06 | Rob2222 | I got the player playing full volume backlight and spinning HD not over 530mA... should be ok, or? |
| 01:23:42 | Rob2222 | :( @ linus |
| 01:23:51 | Rob2222 | your first bricked player? |
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| 01:25:21 | lostlogic | Rob2222: GPIO bit 23 is 1 when USB is in, but it doesn't show charging in the icon? |
| 01:25:22 | LinusN | Rob2222: yes |
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| 01:26:22 | Rob2222 | LinusN: And now the unit is fully dead? no battery power? no ac power? |
| 01:26:33 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: normal i have a blinking battery |
| 01:26:52 | Rob2222 | atm i have the battery % |
| 01:26:55 | lostlogic | LinusN: my impression (based on me and you breaking them) is that the iRiver power circuitry is less than robust |
| 01:26:57 | LinusN | Rob2222: dead as a herring |
| 01:26:58 | Rob2222 | AND! a plug next to it |
| 01:27:17 | Rob2222 | and GPIO is DB9 |
| 01:27:20 | Rob2222 | ... |
| 01:27:45 | BHSPitMonkey | dumb question, but is anyone working on the Phillips players |
| 01:27:49 | Rob2222 | DB9 was charging and DB1 no charge |
| 01:28:11 | Rob2222 | thats bad the linus H320. |
| 01:28:21 | Rob2222 | -the +with |
| 01:28:33 | Rob2222 | linus: your only H300? |
| 01:29:24 | LinusN | no, but it's my only h300 that I can use for hardware experiments |
| 01:29:43 | Rob2222 | how have you connected the BDM? soldered? |
| 01:30:27 | LinusN | yes, i have soldered a bdm connector to it |
| 01:30:30 | Rob2222 | When the player is charging+playing+disk spinning and doesnt consum more than 530mA souldnt it be possible to power the player over usb in usb mode? |
| 01:30:39 | Rob2222 | ah ok. |
| 01:31:12 | lostlogic | Rob2222: should be... |
| 01:31:15 | LinusN | Rob2222: where are you measuring this? |
| 01:31:26 | Rob2222 | USB line |
| 01:31:39 | Rob2222 | i took 5v from PC |
| 01:31:42 | Rob2222 | multimeter |
| 01:31:44 | LinusN | then you are only measuring the charging current |
| 01:31:53 | Rob2222 | and then a USB bracket (only power connected) |
| 01:31:57 | LinusN | i bet it draws more than 500mA from the battery |
| 01:31:59 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: No - see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus for current and future Rockbox targets. |
| 01:32:16 | LinusN | when the disk spins up |
| 01:32:33 | Rob2222 | LinusN: It consumes still 310mA ... when disk is spinning it goes up |
| 01:32:45 | Rob2222 | to ca. 500ma |
| 01:32:54 | Rob2222 | I set the MM to save MAX |
| 01:33:03 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb: internet just now started working |
| 01:33:05 | Rob2222 | and max was 532mA |
| 01:33:07 | LinusN | because the charger doesn't draw more |
| 01:33:17 | lostlogic | Rob2222: 532ma from USB probably some additional from the battery just during disk spinnup |
| 01:33:18 | BHSPitMonkey | (web ports, at least) |
| 01:33:29 | Rob2222 | is it possible? |
| 01:33:35 | lostlogic | Rob2222: sure |
| 01:33:40 | Rob2222 | cool. |
| 01:33:57 | LinusN | cool, why? |
| 01:34:20 | Rob2222 | so it would be interesting to know if the player uses the max 500mA from USB and the battery "only" as "backup" in USB mode. |
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| 01:34:46 | LinusN | the player takes all power from the battery |
| 01:35:12 | Rob2222 | but then, why the USB consumption rises when the disc is spinning? |
| 01:35:21 | Rob2222 | ah, you mean USB mode |
| 01:36:15 | Rob2222 | I only can say that I have almost constant 310mA drained from USB and rising to 510mA when disc is spinning |
| 01:36:25 | LinusN | interesting |
| 01:36:49 | Rob2222 | sorry 530mA i mean |
| 01:37:09 | Rob2222 | after disc spinning its immidiately at 310mA |
| 01:37:28 | Rob2222 | but thats cool. |
| 01:37:33 | lostlogic | LinusN: the player doesn't take all power from the battery as far as I can tell |
| 01:37:40 | Rob2222 | the player uses all power he can get from usb |
| 01:37:53 | LinusN | lostlogic: really? |
| 01:37:54 | lostlogic | LinusN: at least not when the AC adapter is connected |
| 01:38:36 | Rob2222 | is it possible to charge a battery over 2 wires and take the power from the battery the same time? |
| 01:38:45 | Rob2222 | no or? |
| 01:38:46 | lostlogic | LinusN: It takes all power from the VDD side of the LX2201, but that side is powered by both battery and charger |
| 01:38:57 | LinusN | exactly |
| 01:39:36 | Rob2222 | btw |
| 01:39:39 | lostlogic | ? |
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| 01:39:41 | LinusN | so if the charger limits the current, it's possible to drain the battery by drawing more than 530mA, right? |
| 01:40:00 | Rob2222 | so i would think/understand it |
| 01:40:02 | lostlogic | ah, yes |
| 01:40:35 | lostlogic | but if it has plenty of charge current (ie AC adapter) then the battery is basically in OC by a diode |
| 01:42:24 | Rob2222 | i plugged in my USB Power measurement cable without a button and come into usb mode. (usb data lines are not connected). disc is now spinning and he draws 310mA from USB. |
| 01:42:52 | amiconn | LinusN: Do you plan to hook the rockbox bootloader to the third entry point as well (connecting the charger)? |
| 01:43:02 | LinusN | yes |
| 01:43:03 | amiconn | This would allow car adapter mode... |
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| 01:43:35 | Rob2222 | now i plugged in the USB power measure cable while in debug mode. now he draws the same 310mA but the disc ISNT spinning. |
| 01:44:18 | LinusN | Rob2222: try checking the difference if you boost the cpu or not |
| 01:44:28 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 01:45:19 | Rob2222 | LinusN: in which mode? USB/DEBUG/USBCHARGING? |
| 01:45:27 | Rob2222 | -USB |
| 01:45:37 | LinusN | usbcharging |
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| 01:48:15 | Rob2222 | boosting doesnt change consumption |
| 01:48:24 | Rob2222 | strange |
| 01:48:26 | Rob2222 | 310mA |
| 01:48:28 | Rob2222 | +-1 |
| 01:49:25 | Rob2222 | but the LX2201 must be in USB HIGH CURRENT mode. |
| 01:49:39 | Rob2222 | it cant draw 310mA when in LOW power usb mode. |
| 01:50:00 | Rob2222 | but why it draws more when the disc is spinning but not when the CPU boosts |
| 01:50:15 | LinusN | maybe we'll be able to find out which port pin is the charger control |
| 01:50:46 | Rob2222 | uh, my max is now 545mA .... |
| 01:50:57 | Rob2222 | is that still a range that could be tolerated? |
| 01:51:44 | LinusN | 500 is max according to usb standard |
| 01:51:52 | Rob2222 | yeah, i know.. |
| 01:51:55 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 01:53:31 | LinusN | gotta get some sleep |
| 01:53:36 | LinusN | nite all |
| 01:53:40 | Rob2222 | good night |
| 01:53:43 | | Part LinusN |
| 01:53:43 | Rob2222 | uh 2am |
| 01:54:12 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: Thats strange, that the USB consumption doesnt rise on boost. |
| 01:55:07 | lostlogic | dunno |
| 01:55:10 | XavierGr | amiconn: I finished editing for today. There is a missing excel file I want to provide as a standart for measuremetns, but I will try to add that tomorow are you going to modify it? |
| 01:55:27 | amiconn | I've already done my modification |
| 01:55:37 | amiconn | (buttons for Ondio were wrong) |
| 01:55:47 | XavierGr | ah okay thanks. |
| 01:55:50 | amiconn | The topic was locked for a while |
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| 02:00:11 | XavierGr | amiconn: BTW does the plugin works for ondio? |
| 02:04:24 | lostlogic | Rob2222: when your battery voltage is rising, with USB charge, is GPIO bit 23 high or low? |
| 02:05:05 | Rob2222 | GPIO_READ is DB9..... |
| 02:05:12 | Rob2222 | let me calculate |
| 02:05:25 | Rob2222 | should be 1 |
| 02:06:16 | Rob2222 | its high |
| 02:07:15 | Rob2222 | youre searching why it doesnt blink, heh? |
| 02:07:17 | lostlogic | hmm... mine won't charge from USB for some reason |
| 02:07:32 | lostlogic | naw, that's easy... if mine were actually charging |
| 02:07:36 | Rob2222 | whats your GPIO? |
| 02:07:37 | Rob2222 | DB1? |
| 02:07:52 | lostlogic | 5B1 actually |
| 02:08:06 | lostlogic | *checks his iRiver firmware settings* |
| 02:08:19 | Rob2222 | why some units have 5 and other have D... |
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| 02:08:31 | Rob2222 | i habe USB charging enabled in iriver FW |
| 02:08:34 | Rob2222 | have |
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| 02:11:24 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: Your battery isnt full? |
| 02:11:31 | lostlogic | nope, 3.86v |
| 02:11:36 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 02:11:42 | Rob2222 | and, whyt says iriver? |
| 02:11:43 | lostlogic | connecting AC goes to 5B9 |
| 02:11:47 | Rob2222 | ah |
| 02:11:52 | Rob2222 | ah AC |
| 02:11:55 | Rob2222 | mhh |
| 02:12:05 | lostlogic | iRiver firmware usb charging enabled |
| 02:12:11 | lostlogic | and desktop mode |
| 02:12:16 | Rob2222 | same here |
| 02:12:48 | Rob2222 | strange |
| 02:13:09 | Rob2222 | have you tried to enter usb when in VIEW IO screen? |
| 02:13:10 | lostlogic | and if I hold rec and plug in USB, ti goes to iRiver USB charge mode |
| 02:13:22 | lostlogic | yeah |
| 02:13:33 | Rob2222 | have you the newest build? |
| 02:13:40 | Rob2222 | linus set up usb charge 3h ago |
| 02:14:05 | lostlogic | of course |
| 02:14:08 | lostlogic | but now it did |
| 02:14:09 | Rob2222 | holding rec and insert usb works for me. stays in rockbox, full usable |
| 02:14:13 | lostlogic | after I let it go to USB charge mode on iRiver |
| 02:14:19 | lostlogic | meaning that it's enable and disableable |
| 02:15:06 | Rob2222 | i bet thats the hi/low pin! |
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| 02:15:22 | Rob2222 | 100mA arent enought to charge |
| 02:15:27 | Rob2222 | when RB is On |
| 02:15:43 | Rob2222 | as you didnt had a charging indicator |
| 02:15:50 | Rob2222 | it bet it draws 100mA |
| 02:15:51 | lostlogic | GPIO1 read bit # 12 |
| 02:16:19 | lostlogic | should have checked GPIO1 out bits too |
| 02:16:49 | Rob2222 | whats with GPIO1 bit 12? |
| 02:17:14 | lostlogic | before when I connected USB disk mode, it would flicker 01010101, now with USB charge working, it is solid 7 |
| 02:17:25 | lostlogic | not sure what it's telling us, and not sure how to control it yet |
| 02:17:53 | Rob2222 | i try to shut off iriver usb charge |
| 02:18:07 | lostlogic | write down all GPIO read and out registers |
| 02:18:10 | lostlogic | then change |
| 02:18:11 | lostlogic | then compare |
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| 02:18:51 | Rob2222 | i set to hub |
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| 02:20:20 | Rob2222 | ah |
| 02:20:27 | Rob2222 | now it doesnt charge |
| 02:20:28 | lostlogic | anywho, I can't spend any more time on this tonight, it will detect charging by USB ok now, but I gotta do some other work. |
| 02:20:34 | lostlogic | what changed in the GPIOs? |
| 02:21:16 | amiconn | XavierGr: Now testing battery_bench on Ondio... |
| 02:21:30 | Rob2222 | GPIO1 bit 8 changes when connecting usb |
| 02:21:41 | Rob2222 | bit 7 i mean |
| 02:21:42 | amiconn | First remark: The lower 3 lines of the info text are too wide, they are cut at both borders |
| 02:21:48 | Rob2222 | we start at 0 |
| 02:22:32 | Rob2222 | hmm i was wrong with m thesis |
| 02:22:52 | Rob2222 | he only consumes 40mA over USB now |
| 02:24:17 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: where can this setting be stored? pcf? |
| 02:24:18 | lostlogic | Rob2222: and that bit didn't change before? |
| 02:24:29 | Rob2222 | i did |
| 02:24:37 | Rob2222 | i changed before, too |
| 02:25:04 | lostlogic | it's possible that the iRiver uses some setting in the pcf50606 to help control the LX2201 |
| 02:25:20 | lostlogic | but like I said, I gotta do other stuff for the rest of tonight. |
| 02:25:21 | Rob2222 | I think, too, |
| 02:25:26 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 02:25:31 | XavierGr | amiconn: You mean the info rendered when someoen selects the plugin? |
| 02:25:36 | lostlogic | later |
| 02:25:39 | amiconn | yes |
| 02:32:09 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: My H300 is fizzing while charging. hmm |
| 02:33:04 | Rob2222 | When I plug out USB or connect AC it stops... ^^ |
| 02:35:21 | lostlogic | as in bad noise in headphones? |
| 02:35:39 | lostlogic | the ground on your USB connection is probably screwy or some such |
| 02:35:57 | Rob2222 | it sounds like you open a gas bottle |
| 02:36:36 | Rob2222 | but its almost unhearable |
| 02:37:18 | lostlogic | that doesn't sound healthy. |
| 02:37:29 | Rob2222 | btw, iriver is usb-charging with 307mA |
| 02:37:52 | Rob2222 | and no fizzing with iriver usb charging |
| 02:38:04 | Rob2222 | will try Rb agein |
| 02:38:07 | Rob2222 | again |
| 02:38:11 | lostlogic | mine does not fizz in RB USB charge. |
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| 02:38:44 | Rob2222 | well, maybe its time to sell my player at ebay :) |
| 02:39:09 | lostlogic | :P |
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| 02:39:54 | Rob2222 | just started fizzin again |
| 02:39:58 | Rob2222 | wtf?! |
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| 02:40:14 | BHSPitLappy | does brickmania work on the ipod nano? |
| 02:41:20 | Rob2222 | waaaaah |
| 02:41:27 | Rob2222 | Rb fizz, IR no fizz |
| 02:41:29 | Rob2222 | why? |
| 02:41:35 | Rob2222 | BHSPitLappy: I dont know |
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| 02:58:11 | webguest42 | hello. can anyone estimate release dates please? |
| 02:58:48 | Rob2222 | for what? |
| 02:58:57 | BHSPitMonkey | Rob2222: shhh |
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| 03:01:04 | lostlogic | webguest42: :-P |
| 03:01:35 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 03:01:54 | webguest42 | got dammit. how do I change my nickname? |
| 03:02:01 | lostlogic | webguest42: /nick newname |
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| 03:02:07 | Rob2222 | The release for the iRiver H690 is mid 2010. :) |
| 03:02:10 | | Nick webguest42 is now known as lamed (n=5540741c@labb.contactor.se) |
| 03:02:41 | lamed | gosh. thanks. |
| 03:02:41 | Rob2222 | I would like to have charger/chargring events logged in batterybench. |
| 03:03:07 | lamed | I'm sure i'll forget that. |
| 03:03:09 | lostlogic | Rob2222: so add them :) |
| 03:03:17 | lamed | amiconn: around? |
| 03:03:50 | lamed | anyone here is using an ondio? |
| 03:05:46 | lamed | amiconn & tomas were misleading me it was a good idea I'll bind the screen scroll patch with repeated left/right clicks. :( but the ondio is already using right long click as a context menu call :(((( soo stupid |
| 03:06:24 | XavierGr | amiconn was just testing battery_bench on his ondio, but I don't know where he is now... |
| 03:08:21 | Rob2222 | Bger_ are you there? |
| 03:08:37 | lamed | lostlogic: why's that added |else| at gwps.c ? |
| 03:10:22 | lostlogic | lamed: no good reason actually, I just did that because I had considered trying to pull out some code into functions, but that didn't end up being feasible |
| 03:12:01 | lamed | and, if you don't mind i'm asking, why doing both checks? |#if defined(AB_REPEAT_ENABLE) && defined(WPS_AB_SHARE_DIR_BUTTONS)| |
| 03:12:48 | lamed | (define share_dir_buttons is under ab_repeat_enable |
| 03:12:52 | lamed | why not doing only the latter? |
| 03:12:59 | lostlogic | you've asked before, just for consistency with other parts of the file, yes WPS_AB_SHARE_DIR_BUTTONS will only be defined if AB_REPEAT_ENABLE is, but it's more clear this way I think. |
| 03:13:13 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: is it possible to make the "battery % digts" in status bar blink when charging instead of showing the battery animation? (only if numerical batter indicator is set) |
| 03:13:22 | lamed | o.k |
| 03:13:44 | lostlogic | Rob2222: sure it's possible but *shrug* |
| 03:13:55 | Rob2222 | only a idea. |
| 03:13:59 | Rob2222 | ok, i must sleep |
| 03:14:03 | lostlogic | night |
| 03:14:09 | Rob2222 | good night all |
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| 03:14:29 | lamed | good night |
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| 03:16:06 | jungti1234 | morning |
| 03:16:31 | XavierGr | jungti: in 3 hours |
| 03:16:33 | XavierGr | :D |
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| 03:19:10 | XavierGr | good night, I have to sleep! |
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| 03:22:17 | lamed | good night |
| 03:22:24 | BloodySorcerer | woah |
| 03:22:28 | BloodySorcerer | i just watched me quit |
| 03:22:29 | BloodySorcerer | freaky. |
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| 03:25:47 | jungti1234 | haha... |
| 03:30:46 | Kyl3 | so does anyone know what that mystery column is on the daily builds page? |
| 03:32:12 | Kyl3 | on the far right, its not even colored. |
| 03:33:06 | lamed | good night |
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| 03:35:59 | lostlogic | Kyl3: it's a "score" for how badly that build is broken... kinda a joke for us committers |
| 03:39:05 | Kyl3 | ahh so the higher the number the more proke it is? |
| 03:39:14 | lostlogic | yep :) |
| 03:40:34 | jungti1234 | um |
| 03:40:36 | Kyl3 | so how did one of them score 369? |
| 03:40:52 | jungti1234 | high score: lostlogic |
| 03:40:53 | jungti1234 | haha |
| 03:40:54 | lostlogic | because I broke it good :) |
| 03:41:03 | Kyl3 | lol |
| 03:41:04 | lostlogic | I broke all of the simulators in one hit :) |
| 03:41:34 | Kyl3 | and that adds up to 369? nice |
| 03:42:06 | lostlogic | well 360 −− the 9 warnings on X5 aren't mind :) |
| 03:42:14 | JdGordon | haha who made the bob the builder wps?? |
| 03:42:19 | Kyl3 | whats the formula? |
| 03:42:20 | jungti1234 | 369 + 93 = 462 Hahaha |
| 03:42:25 | Kyl3 | mixin |
| 03:43:14 | lostlogic | Kyl3: 10*errors + warnings |
| 03:43:47 | Kyl3 | hmm |
| 03:43:50 | Kyl3 | nice |
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| 03:51:09 | jungti1234 | Is H300 charge available in rockbox now? |
| 03:51:39 | Kyl3 | Yes |
| 03:51:43 | jungti1234 | hmm |
| 03:51:59 | jungti1234 | It doesn't work to me. |
| 03:53:25 | Kyl3 | well it charges |
| 03:53:27 | lostlogic | jungti1234: what's wrong with it? |
| 03:53:35 | jungti1234 | um |
| 03:53:39 | lostlogic | it works correctly for me both USB and power |
| 03:53:41 | Kyl3 | but if you plug it in while its off it'll boot iriver firmware |
| 03:53:42 | lostlogic | er and AC |
| 03:53:46 | jungti1234 | Connected USB. |
| 03:54:00 | jungti1234 | And I waited that is charged. |
| 03:54:05 | lostlogic | jungti1234: are you on the latest bleeding edge? |
| 03:54:09 | jungti1234 | yeah |
| 03:54:15 | lostlogic | and you held record while plugging USB? |
| 03:54:51 | jungti1234 | If hold record, it's booted to original firmware. |
| 03:55:10 | jungti1234 | Is it normal? |
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| 03:55:39 | lostlogic | jungti1234: have to plug USB while it is in rockbox |
| 03:55:58 | lostlogic | jungti1234: yes, it is supposed to go to iRiver firmware if it goes on for any reason and record is held |
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| 03:56:29 | jungti1234 | what? |
| 03:56:37 | jungti1234 | in rockbox? |
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| 03:56:56 | jungti1234 | Then, become PC and USB connection. |
| 03:57:12 | lostlogic | jungti1234: in rockbox, hold record, plug USB |
| 03:57:16 | lostlogic | it will charge from USB |
| 03:57:39 | jungti1234 | oops |
| 03:57:41 | jungti1234 | right! |
| 03:58:24 | jungti1234 | hehe thanks |
| 03:59:19 | jungti1234 | and sorry, I don't read well English. |
| 03:59:27 | lostlogic | it's all good :) |
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| 04:00:08 | jungti1234 | :) |
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| 04:16:29 | Midgey34 | anyone have some suggestions on key mappings for blackjack? |
| 04:17:20 | jungti1234 | what is blackjack? :) |
| 04:17:20 | Midgey34 | on the h300, I have PLAY = hit, REC = stay, NAVI = doubledown, AB = save/resume, STOP = quit |
| 04:17:28 | Midgey34 | a cardgame |
| 04:17:30 | jungti1234 | ah |
| 04:17:36 | Midgey34 | you try to get 21 |
| 04:18:17 | jungti1234 | 21? |
| 04:18:23 | Midgey34 | points |
| 04:18:31 | jungti1234 | ah I know |
| 04:18:54 | jungti1234 | It's gambling. |
| 04:19:43 | Midgey34 | yep |
| 04:20:22 | jungti1234 | what is battery bench? |
| 04:20:31 | jungti1234 | playtime check? |
| 04:21:49 | Midgey34 | basically. its a plugin that write the play time to disk when it spins up giving a decent estimate of playtime |
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| 07:19:38 | Membrillo | does anyone know why the White setting on the H300 colour changer isnt 0,0,0 RGB? |
| 07:20:09 | Membrillo | i think it has a slight blue tinge to it, because if i have a white image (0,0,0) it isnt the same colour as the background |
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| 07:29:37 | Membrillo | its 222,227,222 |
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| 08:43:36 | preglow | LinusN: shame about the h300 |
| 08:43:43 | LinusN | yeah |
| 08:43:48 | preglow | really weird, though |
| 08:43:54 | LinusN | and i just can't understand what i did wrong... |
| 08:44:03 | preglow | never had anything die just by replacing a battery with a power supply |
| 08:44:09 | LinusN | me neither |
| 08:44:10 | preglow | something i've done jillions of times |
| 08:44:29 | preglow | there's no reason it should go wrong either, so there you go, heh |
| 08:44:59 | Bger_ | LinusN ? what has happened ? |
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| 08:45:23 | LinusN | i connected a power supply instead of a battery to my h320 |
| 08:46:12 | Slasheri | weird.. what kind of supply that was? |
| 08:46:47 | Bger | and it died ? :( |
| 08:48:04 | LinusN | Slasheri: mansion ep613 |
| 08:48:49 | preglow | Slasheri: read the logs? lostlogic's going to do some surgery on the pcmbuf/playback system |
| 08:49:22 | Slasheri | preglow: not yet |
| 08:49:45 | preglow | not much to be read, he just asked you if you had any work on progress, etc, going on there |
| 08:50:42 | Slasheri | not much, i have been too busy at work.. |
| 08:53:02 | Slasheri | lostlogic: i don't mind, just try if you have got some good ideas :) |
| 08:53:53 | amiconn | mooning |
| 08:54:21 | LinusN | morning amiconn |
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| 08:56:41 | BHSPitLappy | morning all... |
| 08:56:43 | BHSPitLappy | (2am) |
| 08:57:40 | LinusN | BHSPitLappy: go back to sleep ;-) |
| 08:57:47 | BHSPitLappy | back? |
| 08:58:04 | BHSPitLappy | where is this "sleep", it's not on any map local to my location |
| 08:58:20 | preglow | sleep... |
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| 09:02:18 | * | LinusN gestures hypnotically...sleep...sleeeeeep... |
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| 09:03:21 | * | LinusN falls asleep (never try this in a mirror) |
| 09:04:02 | preglow | hahah |
| 09:04:07 | preglow | don't need to try that hard to make me sleep |
| 09:04:58 | * | BHSPitLappy plans a heist at the preglow villa |
| 09:05:22 | BHSPitLappy | did the gif viewer ever make cvs? |
| 09:06:06 | B4gder | there's a gif viewer? |
| 09:06:22 | BHSPitLappy | apparently, in linux s t b's backyard... |
| 09:06:41 | BHSPitLappy | I watched an animated gif on my nano with it :D |
| 09:06:54 | B4gder | backyards scare me ;-) |
| 09:07:45 | preglow | w00t |
| 09:08:05 | Bger | there aren't license issues with GIF files nowadays, yep ? |
| 09:08:12 | B4gder | correct |
| 09:08:26 | preglow | still no excuse to use them |
| 09:08:28 | preglow | they're crap |
| 09:08:30 | preglow | smelly crap |
| 09:08:40 | B4gder | 8bit limited crap |
| 09:08:40 | Bger | but they exist ... |
| 09:09:18 | preglow | yes, i didn't say you can't view them |
| 09:09:24 | preglow | just don't create them |
| 09:09:29 | Bger | yep |
| 09:09:31 | preglow | that makes jesus and all kinds of other prophets cry |
| 09:10:18 | Bger | The latest expiration date of the GIF-related patents will most probably be Friday, 11 August 2006 (source: en.wikipedia.org) |
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| 09:12:30 | Bger | haha www.burnallgifs.org |
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| 09:12:47 | dwihno | If only transparencies were handled correctly in IE... :( |
| 09:12:53 | dwihno | Then we could burn them. |
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| 09:13:09 | dwihno | I want my alpha channel! nOW! |
| 09:13:31 | dwihno | mmm, rgba. |
| 09:13:49 | B4gder | just dump IE |
| 09:14:06 | dwihno | I already did. Too bad there still is many who won't do the same. |
| 09:14:12 | Bger | http://phil.ipal.org/tc.html |
| 09:14:16 | B4gder | let them suffer |
| 09:14:23 | B4gder | :-) |
| 09:14:44 | dwihno | If I told my supervisors that, they would nag the hell out of me :) |
| 09:14:51 | B4gder | go go go |
| 09:14:59 | B4gder | don't be a chicken ;-) |
| 09:15:11 | preglow | hahah |
| 09:15:14 | dwihno | Btw, firefox does not handle the transparency correctly when printing |
| 09:15:16 | preglow | that's my stance on the whole thing |
| 09:15:22 | preglow | you use, tough luck |
| 09:15:30 | BHSPitLappy | lose? |
| 09:15:34 | preglow | but then again, i don't exactly do web work at work |
| 09:15:57 | * | dwihno does evil xhtml |
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| 09:17:34 | preglow | hehe |
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| 09:18:04 | Bger | B4gder did you see the last link i pasted? |
| 09:18:23 | B4gder | no |
| 09:19:31 | Bger | just open it and see the first image |
| 09:24:15 | amiconn | Bger: Interesting, though it seems there are problems. |
| 09:24:30 | amiconn | This thing displays sloo-oow both in Firefox and IE |
| 09:24:47 | amiconn | The windows image viewer can't display it at all |
| 09:25:36 | Bger | hehe, yes, but at least it shows that a gif can have more than 256 colors |
| 09:27:06 | amiconn | Photoshop Elements can't load it either, but ms paint can (!) |
| 09:28:44 | LinusN | amiconn: i was thinking about the draw modes, and how they could apply to color bitmaps |
| 09:29:25 | LinusN | and i'm not sure how it should be |
| 09:29:55 | amiconn | They can't |
| 09:29:55 | LinusN | i believe having a transparent color is a good thing |
| 09:29:59 | amiconn | nope |
| 09:30:22 | amiconn | Would be ok-ish on a 16bit+ display, but not on 2bit |
| 09:30:45 | LinusN | what do you suggest then? |
| 09:30:52 | amiconn | Imho we should have a function that takes both a native bitmap and a mono bitmap as a mask |
| 09:31:06 | LinusN | woudln't that be kind of slow? |
| 09:32:02 | amiconn | No, it would actually be faster |
| 09:32:20 | amiconn | With a special colour, each pixel would need to be checked for that colour |
| 09:32:34 | amiconn | A mask bitmap is 1bit, which is certainly less data |
| 09:32:41 | LinusN | yes, when the pixel is already loaded in a cpu register |
| 09:33:12 | LinusN | the mask bitmap would need lots of shifting and stuff |
| 09:33:14 | amiconn | Basically, drawing a masked native bitmap is the same as drawing a mono bitmap and using the native bitmap as the foreground 'colour' |
| 09:33:15 | B4gder | and if the bitmap is created on demand, the mask would also need to be created on demand |
| 09:33:59 | LinusN | drawing a 16-bit color bitmap: load pixel, compare with #xxxxx, store/ignore |
| 09:34:12 | LinusN | how can a mask bitmap be faster than that? |
| 09:34:26 | LinusN | #xxxxx would even be in a register |
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| 09:34:56 | jungti1234 | hey |
| 09:34:59 | LinusN | a mask bitmap will require extra memory fetches and shifting |
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| 09:35:14 | amiconn | Single stores are slow. My optimised routines will use burst access |
| 09:35:19 | LinusN | maybe it's good for 2-bit images but certainly not for 16-bit |
| 09:35:50 | LinusN | ok, i'll give you the benefit of a doubt |
| 09:36:48 | jungti1234 | who is Pittman Derek? |
| 09:36:53 | LinusN | another unfortunate effect of the mask bitmap would be that the wps images would take even more space |
| 09:37:09 | LinusN | jungti1234: should we know that? |
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| 09:37:24 | jungti1234 | hmm.. I don't know. |
| 09:37:27 | moda | guys, i need some help with the wps's |
| 09:38:08 | moda | ive got a background image, and im trying to get the progress bar in the transparent area i made in it, but its either too high, and then i set it down one line, and its too low. help! |
| 09:38:13 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 09:38:16 | LinusN | amiconn: have you started working on the optimized color lcd code? |
| 09:38:18 | jungti1234 | haha |
| 09:38:53 | LinusN | moda: the progress bar is placed on text rows positions |
| 09:38:55 | Bger | moda change the font |
| 09:39:08 | moda | hrm |
| 09:39:12 | Bger | for now you can't say pixel positions |
| 09:39:18 | moda | ok, will see |
| 09:39:23 | moda | and also, ive got this problem: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=36074 |
| 09:40:28 | B4gder | anyone not a regged user at MR will get a shock when they follow links to that site |
| 09:40:35 | moda | why? |
| 09:40:38 | | Quit JdGordon ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 09:40:46 | B4gder | that awful color/theme thing |
| 09:40:47 | LinusN | the default theme at mr is awful |
| 09:40:50 | Bger | B4gder u're registered, don't complain! |
| 09:41:00 | B4gder | I'm just telling |
| 09:41:04 | moda | oh, so, any help? |
| 09:41:20 | LinusN | moda: i assume you are using the optimized build with pink transparency? |
| 09:41:38 | moda | yea |
| 09:41:52 | LinusN | and the bg is pink in all your play status icons? |
| 09:42:02 | moda | erm, no |
| 09:42:11 | jungti1234 | hm |
| 09:43:51 | moda | iirc, the person who made the rockamp skin has fixed it, i think |
| 09:43:52 | LinusN | moda: i don't know how your design looks like, but i can imagine you want your icons transparent too |
| 09:44:23 | moda | its just a background, and when its played, the play button is ontop of the background.... if that makes any sense |
| 09:45:23 | jungti1234 | I'm making WPS too. |
| 09:45:45 | preglow | these mask bitmaps, would they be generated from a bitmap with pink == transparent, or would they need to be drawn too? |
| 09:46:00 | moda | they need to be drawn |
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| 09:47:41 | preglow | bah |
| 09:47:42 | preglow | forget it |
| 09:47:45 | LinusN | preglow: was that for amiconn or moda? |
| 09:47:52 | preglow | for amiconn :> |
| 09:49:39 | preglow | if the mask bitmap approach requires separate mask bitmaps to be drawn, i'd say forget it |
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| 09:49:43 | preglow | too cumbersome |
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| 09:50:22 | B4gder | I agree that the draw functions would need to make the mask |
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| 09:50:39 | B4gder | which then somehow defeats its purpose I guess |
| 09:51:00 | preglow | it could be an init time thing |
| 09:51:11 | preglow | or a bmp2rb thing |
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| 09:55:38 | JdGordon | jungti1234: hey, i figured out how to make it so you can have things between the hours.. but it will make it more complicated... is it really needed? |
| 09:55:46 | jungti1234 | um? |
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| 09:56:13 | jungti1234 | If you want, do so. |
| 09:56:40 | jungti1234 | JdGordon: http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1997 |
| 09:57:53 | JdGordon | damn.. that looks awesome... who made it :D |
| 09:58:46 | jungti1234 | hahahah |
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| 10:02:54 | Bger | JdGordon you could just fix the count of "events" in a day to 20 (for example) |
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| 10:03:07 | Bger | and to input the time too |
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| 10:04:31 | JdGordon | Bger: ye, thats the easy way.. but it will suk if its done like that.... |
| 10:04:38 | Membrillo | Now we can change the width of progress bars, do you think its possible to align it differently than center? |
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| 10:04:44 | Membrillo | on H300 |
| 10:04:56 | Bger | JdGordon why would suck ? |
| 10:05:17 | Bger | it depends on how u would make the time input |
| 10:05:26 | jungti1234 | Membrillo: you want it? |
| 10:05:46 | jungti1234 | make |
| 10:06:04 | JdGordon | coz it would show every timeslot, even if its blank.... ill do something like that.. but different |
| 10:06:14 | * | Bger proves his bad english again :) |
| 10:06:24 | JdGordon | na, i got ya |
| 10:06:41 | jungti1234 | He is better than me. |
| 10:06:44 | Bger | JdGordon heh, of course u'll show only the entered things |
| 10:07:38 | Bger | Rob2222 the idea for the charger inserted is a good one ... i'll try to implement it asap |
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| 10:13:20 | Membrillo | im learning C still. Im very very very basic. no where near ready to actually start coding. Do you think someone would be able to work out how to align the progress bar on H300 WPS? It would be very useful for some WPSs im making |
| 10:13:45 | B4gder | of course someone can do that |
| 10:13:58 | JdGordon | Membrillo: depends how its draw.. it could be damn simple, or a huge PITA to do |
| 10:14:00 | moda | how do i make a bmp mask? |
| 10:14:11 | Membrillo | ok fair enough |
| 10:14:28 | Membrillo | well, if its really simple, would someone mind giving it a stab when they have the time? |
| 10:14:30 | LinusN | moda: you don't need to |
| 10:14:47 | LinusN | the masking we're discussing isn't implemented yet |
| 10:14:59 | moda | so, how do i get rid of the problem that im having, right now? |
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| 10:15:10 | LinusN | use pink as background in your images |
| 10:15:42 | moda | ok |
| 10:16:20 | Membrillo | LinusN: have you found a H300 to buy yet? |
| 10:16:54 | LinusN | sort of, i'm still bidding |
| 10:16:59 | Membrillo | nice |
| 10:17:02 | Membrillo | whats it at now? |
| 10:17:25 | Membrillo | the price that is |
| 10:17:44 | LinusN | one option is £65+shipping for Lanesras broken one |
| 10:18:32 | Membrillo | you broke your h300 so your going to replace it with another broken one? kind of defeats the purpose doesnt it? |
| 10:19:13 | Slasheri | Hmm, i would also like to get some broken units but i haven't found any so far.. |
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| 10:21:07 | Membrillo | Slasheri: broken in what way? |
| 10:21:09 | moda | ok, so in photoshop, how do i make a transperant layer for all the bmps? |
| 10:21:54 | Slasheri | Membrillo: that doesn't matter so much |
| 10:21:56 | Membrillo | any area you want to be transparent, make it Red = 255, Blue = 0, Green = 255 |
| 10:22:26 | Slasheri | but now i go to eat |
| 10:23:02 | moda | yea, but i want everything showing, and people say make the bg transparent?!?!?! |
| 10:23:18 | Membrillo | what do you mean everything showing |
| 10:23:39 | moda | everything in the image i want to be drawn |
| 10:23:52 | Membrillo | at the moment text is always going to be behind an image unless you make a transparent so you can see the text through |
| 10:24:07 | Membrillo | a transparent area* |
| 10:24:16 | moda | its not text, its just when i play something, then fastforward the play area is transparent instead of the background |
| 10:24:52 | Membrillo | what do you mean by the play area? |
| 10:25:41 | LinusN | moda: you make the bg transparent by drawing it in pink |
| 10:26:06 | BHSPitLappy | magenta |
| 10:26:11 | LinusN | whatever |
| 10:26:14 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 10:26:49 | LinusN | moda: it would be a lot easier if you took a screenshot of it se we can see what you mean |
| 10:27:05 | Membrillo | Fuschia |
| 10:27:11 | BHSPitLappy | magenta. |
| 10:27:27 | Membrillo | Fuschia :| |
| 10:27:33 | BHSPitLappy | MAGENTA |
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| 10:27:58 | * | BHSPitLappy glares back |
| 10:27:59 | Membrillo | fushcia |
| 10:28:23 | BHSPitLappy | MAGENTA |
| 10:28:37 | Membrillo | ok my IRC arent up to you :P |
| 10:28:41 | Membrillo | IRC skillz* |
| 10:28:59 | BHSPitLappy | take a year of theater tech, short-stack! |
| 10:29:16 | Membrillo | hehe |
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| 10:33:14 | * | Membrillo always thought he had three legs ;);) |
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| 10:34:40 | BHSPitLappy | gross |
| 10:35:31 | Membrillo | haha sorry. saw the opportunity and couldn't resist |
| 10:36:18 | BHSPitLappy | it's ok, some people just can't keep that body part off their mind |
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| 10:40:13 | linuxstb | Morning all. Any H300 Brickmania players around will to test something for me? |
| 10:40:32 | linuxstb | I've made some changes, and want to make sure it still plays at the same speed on a h300. |
| 10:40:36 | Membrillo | yep |
| 10:40:36 | Membrillo | sure |
| 10:40:52 | Membrillo | no probs |
| 10:40:56 | linuxstb | Would you like a patch or the .rock file? |
| 10:41:03 | Membrillo | .rock please |
| 10:41:09 | linuxstb | Coming right up... |
| 10:41:38 | linuxstb | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/brickmania.rock |
| 10:42:27 | Membrillo | what am i testing? |
| 10:42:56 | linuxstb | Does it feel exactly the same as before? |
| 10:43:10 | linuxstb | Possibly the speed has changed. |
| 10:44:06 | Membrillo | feels pretty normal |
| 10:44:11 | Membrillo | nothing seems to have changed |
| 10:44:15 | Membrillo | still plays smoothly |
| 10:45:38 | linuxstb | OK, thanks. It should hopefully play at the same speed on all (future) targets now as well. |
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| 10:46:21 | jungti1234 | hmm |
| 10:46:55 | Membrillo | one thing. I don't know if its just randomized what powerup you get, but if its possible to adjust likeliness of getting certain powerups I think you should make it harder to get extra lives. I got to the stage once where i had 39 lives or something crazy |
| 10:47:25 | jungti1234 | It seem like no change. |
| 10:48:02 | linuxstb | Membrillo: I don't want to change the game itself (I'll leave that to Paprica), I'm just making it more portable across the different Rockbox targets. |
| 10:48:32 | Membrillo | yeah of course. thats cool |
| 10:48:41 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: ... :D |
| 10:48:47 | jungti1234 | Our baby sleep well |
| 10:48:57 | Membrillo | so is a monochrome version in the making? |
| 10:49:01 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: I assume you are looking for Brickmania on your Nano? |
| 10:49:05 | BHSPitLappy | heh |
| 10:49:14 | linuxstb | Membrillo: Someone is working on a h1x0 version. |
| 10:49:14 | BHSPitLappy | it's fun on the 5G |
| 10:49:40 | linuxstb | It's not properly ported to the 5G yet either - it's designed for a 220x176 LCD. |
| 10:49:56 | BHSPitLappy | yeah, but bigger is at least okay |
| 10:50:01 | Membrillo | whats the res of the 5g? |
| 10:50:05 | linuxstb | 320x240 |
| 10:50:07 | BHSPitLappy | QVGA |
| 10:50:11 | preglow | nano version :/// |
| 10:50:19 | BHSPitLappy | 176x132 |
| 10:50:25 | Membrillo | oh of course. i knew that |
| 10:50:34 | Membrillo | 320x240 is what i have my videos at |
| 10:50:44 | linuxstb | preglow: I tried using the clickwheel, and as you predicted, it doesn't send enough scroll events. |
| 10:51:10 | linuxstb | But I prefer the left/right buttons anyway - using the clickwheel involves too much movement. |
| 10:51:17 | preglow | oh? |
| 10:51:24 | preglow | i kinda like the clickwheel for that kind of game |
| 10:51:31 | linuxstb | Have you tried Brick in the retailos? |
| 10:52:13 | Membrillo | haha, ive just found a way to avoid losing lives in brickmania |
| 10:52:15 | linuxstb | Maybe it would be better if the sensitivity was greater on the wheel, but I prefer Brickmania with left/right to Brick with the clickwheel. |
| 10:52:26 | linuxstb | Membrillo: Pause and then resume? |
| 10:52:31 | Membrillo | yeah haha |
| 10:52:36 | Membrillo | just found it then |
| 10:54:21 | linuxstb | preglow: But I think we should make the clickwheel step a setting. Plugins could then override this setting if they needed to - the same thing is done with the backlight timeout setting in lots of places. |
| 10:54:33 | preglow | linuxstb: yeah, i guess that's ok |
| 10:54:41 | preglow | i'm just worried that the event density will be a bit high |
| 10:56:15 | linuxstb | How many do you skip at the moment? |
| 10:56:38 | preglow | 8 |
| 10:56:39 | preglow | i think |
| 10:57:05 | preglow | nah, 4 |
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| 11:02:01 | BHSPitLappy | nite, #rockbox |
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| 11:04:04 | preglow | nitey |
| 11:04:08 | preglow | have nice |
| 11:04:18 | BHSPitLappy | you too |
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| 11:13:17 | lamed | amiconn: around? |
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| 11:17:33 | amiconn | lamed: sort of |
| 11:18:04 | amiconn | preglow: The mask bitmaps have to be separate of course. Not doing this would defeat their purpose |
| 11:18:35 | amiconn | Reserving a specific colour to be the background is ok-ish for high colour displays, |
| 11:18:55 | amiconn | but not for 2 or 4 bit |
| 11:19:24 | amiconn | ...and handling both in a different way would be a bad thing imho |
| 11:20:08 | amiconn | Of course it might be possible to let the loader create both the native bitmap and the mask from the .bmp |
| 11:20:16 | preglow | this will make life pain for graphic artists |
| 11:20:26 | preglow | and i can't say i like it, despite the performance boost |
| 11:20:47 | amiconn | This could even be done with the same colour for all >1bit targets then |
| 11:21:09 | amiconn | preglow: I don't see how this would make it a pain |
| 11:21:23 | amiconn | Using pink actually *is* a pain, imho |
| 11:21:25 | preglow | you don't see how dealing with two separate bitmaps instead of one is a pain? |
| 11:22:12 | LinusN | amiconn: iirc, your suggestion is basically to do it with mask bitmaps internally, and use a transparent color in the bmp files? |
| 11:22:32 | LinusN | letting the loader create the mask |
| 11:22:51 | B4gder | ... assuming you load the bg bmp |
| 11:22:57 | LinusN | no |
| 11:23:08 | LinusN | there would be only one bmp file |
| 11:23:17 | LinusN | with pink transparency |
| 11:23:31 | LinusN | but the bmp loader would create two bitmaps internally |
| 11:23:32 | amiconn | LinusN: Yes, this was an afterthought, for wps and such |
| 11:23:36 | Rob2222 | Good morning. |
| 11:23:38 | B4gder | I understand |
| 11:23:41 | amiconn | Didn't think of this |
| 11:23:47 | B4gder | but what if you make a draw function that draws in the bg pic |
| 11:24:05 | LinusN | B4gder: ? |
| 11:24:11 | preglow | heh |
| 11:24:17 | preglow | compositor nightmare |
| 11:24:19 | B4gder | the mask creation would need to be done all the time |
| 11:24:20 | preglow | what's on top of what |
| 11:24:27 | amiconn | B4gder: Why? |
| 11:24:40 | B4gder | because there can be drawin in both the bg and the fg |
| 11:24:56 | amiconn | You can tell the bmp loader what to make |
| 11:25:10 | B4gder | yes, if loading is the only way to get a bg |
| 11:25:21 | moda | linus: how did u kill ur player? |
| 11:25:54 | B4gder | I'm just saying that putting functions in the loader will assume that you load stuff to get it done |
| 11:26:19 | lamed | amiconn: what's your mailbox? I want to send you some work about changing horizontal scroll to one click |
| 11:27:44 | LinusN | moda: i connected a 3.8V power supply to the battery connector, but i must have done something wrong, cause the player never started after that :-( |
| 11:28:02 | Rob2222 | LinusN: I think I know why I had constant 310mA USB current even when the CPU is boosting and/or light switches on/off. According to the LX2201 datasheet USB_I_in_max is 1211/RUS(3900ohm) => 310mA. And the LX2201 regulates the charging current so, that charging current+mainunit curreny is not greater than 310mA. If unit needs more => it charges less. |
| 11:28:03 | Bger | :( |
| 11:29:02 | LinusN | Rob2222: but what about the 540mA? |
| 11:29:03 | moda | hrm |
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| 11:29:26 | moda | ive got some screen dumps to show you the problem im having trouble with, im just uploading them atm. |
| 11:30:10 | moda | here: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6703/dump4001021324550oz.png and here: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9575/dump4001021324514lt.png |
| 11:30:23 | Rob2222 | Yeah, thats the 2nd thing. If I got the datasheet right, the LX2201 cant make that. If the unit draws 550mA he will disable charging but he cant make something on that point, that the unit draws so much. |
| 11:30:45 | moda | there is supposed to be a play button in the middle, on the background it is greyed out, and the actual play button is drawn when playing |
| 11:31:22 | jungti1234 | moda: haha.. looks nice |
| 11:31:30 | LinusN | moda: ok, so you don't always display an image? |
| 11:31:34 | Rob2222 | So theoretical in USB charging mode WE must make sure that the disc doesnt spin. AND as less power the unit consumes in USB charging => so faster the battery charges. cause 310mA = unit current + battery charge current |
| 11:31:45 | moda | no, its always displaying an image |
| 11:32:23 | moda | here is the background picture: http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bg3or.png |
| 11:33:07 | LinusN | Rob2222: could it be that the USB chip draws power directly from the USB 5V? |
| 11:33:49 | LinusN | so when we activate USB mode the current draw would be 310mA+USB chip current draw? |
| 11:34:05 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Can be, I dont know. I checked the Iriver USB-Connect current. With charging ints the same 310mA and without charging its 40mA. |
| 11:34:34 | Rob2222 | ATM I have no idas how to check this. |
| 11:34:42 | Rob2222 | -idas+idea |
| 11:35:12 | Rob2222 | LinusN: BTW, RB USB charging wasnt woking for lostlogic. |
| 11:35:33 | Rob2222 | Then he booted iriver. SET usb charging enable at iriver |
| 11:35:45 | Rob2222 | connected/disconnected usb in iriver |
| 11:35:49 | Rob2222 | shut off the unit |
| 11:35:57 | Rob2222 | => USB charging wors in RB. |
| 11:36:08 | Rob2222 | I checked that, for mine player ist the same |
| 11:36:10 | LinusN | moda: i don't understand, what is supposed to be displayed where the icons are? |
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| 11:36:24 | Rob2222 | RB usb charging only works when enabled in iriver!! |
| 11:36:28 | LinusN | moda: is the "active" one supposed to be blue? |
| 11:36:34 | Rob2222 | very interesting imho |
| 11:36:50 | LinusN | Rob2222: yes |
| 11:36:58 | lamed | amiconn: what's your mailbox? I want to send you some work about changing horizontal scroll to one click |
| 11:37:12 | moda | when im fast forwarding, all that should be showing is the fastforward button, ontop of the background image, but instead, im getting a see thru patch instead of the background |
| 11:38:04 | moda | same with rewinding |
| 11:38:23 | Rob2222 | One more interesting thing was, the state of usb chargung enables doesnt change when you only set the option in iriver. You had to set it AND connect usb in iriver. Cause of that i thought the LX2201 usb charging line is maybe connected anywhere to the PCF. |
| 11:39:37 | Rob2222 | LinusN: As much as I like USB charging with a fully working RB, it can be that the unit draws more than 500mA. Even if its not much over. |
| 11:40:33 | moda | here is what it looks like when its playing like normal: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3154/dump4001021336553sf.png |
| 11:40:36 | LinusN | it's likely to be a pcf gpio, but i can't trace it |
| 11:40:54 | moda | and paused |
| 11:40:55 | moda | http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4641/dump4001021337008yb.png |
| 11:41:19 | moda | hrm |
| 11:41:34 | LinusN | moda: so when does it display the ugly blocks? |
| 11:41:48 | moda | yea, instead of the background image |
| 11:41:55 | moda | when im fastforwarding and rewinding |
| 11:42:02 | Rob2222 | LinusN: It should be possible to read the PCF registers, maybe thats enought to find it. |
| 11:42:44 | LinusN | perhaps |
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| 11:43:32 | LinusN | moda: i think i know what it is |
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| 11:44:34 | LinusN | moda: the %mp tag is designed for having the icons in the same place on the screen |
| 11:44:58 | moda | yea? |
| 11:45:06 | moda | so whats the alternative? |
| 11:45:58 | LinusN | create bitmaps consisting of all three icons |
| 11:46:14 | moda | ah, ok, got it |
| 11:46:37 | LinusN | moda: that wps is *good-looking* |
| 11:46:57 | moda | yea, im just trying to get rid of this bug before i go any furthur |
| 11:48:34 | linuxstb | Is WPS loading as slow on the h3x0 as it is on the h1x0? |
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| 11:50:00 | moda | transparent colour = FF00FF? |
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| 11:51:47 | Rob2222 | Bger: Are you there? |
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| 11:51:57 | LinusN | moda: yes |
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| 11:52:52 | moda | ok sweet |
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| 11:59:37 | moda | wtf: [20:59] -NickServ- The nickname [Moda] is already registered |
| 11:59:44 | moda | cant register my nick |
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| 12:00:10 | moda` | nevermind |
| 12:00:20 | muesli__ | try oz-moda ;) |
| 12:00:41 | krurst | Does anyone else have a hard time entering text in on the H3xx? |
| 12:00:43 | Membrillo | or mmmm-moda-i-am |
| 12:01:07 | moda` | yes, text imput sucks |
| 12:01:16 | krurst | ok |
| 12:01:24 | moda` | someone needs to implement rockwords input into normal rockbox |
| 12:01:48 | Membrillo | i like the current text input method |
| 12:01:51 | krurst | I'd be happy if it just didn't lag my key presses |
| 12:01:53 | Membrillo | morse code is handy |
| 12:03:48 | krurst | also, how do I delete in the current input? |
| 12:04:25 | LinusN | krurst: rec, methinks |
| 12:05:26 | krurst | And here's me thinking rec never did anything :( |
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| 12:08:20 | moda` | lets try that again, sam |
| 12:09:35 | moda` | oh dear |
| 12:09:52 | moda` | and now i have a pink background |
| 12:10:02 | moda` | i think i got the wrong colour. hrm |
| 12:10:29 | krurst | Thanks for your help. Bye |
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| 12:10:39 | moda` | nope, its 255-0-255 |
| 12:10:41 | moda` | OMFG |
| 12:10:45 | moda` | why is it wrong |
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| 12:11:21 | linuxstb | moda`: Are you running the CVS Rockbox or the "H300 optimised" ? |
| 12:11:30 | moda` | optimized :D |
| 12:11:33 | jungti1234 | kkk |
| 12:11:49 | moda` | ? |
| 12:12:22 | moda` | cant have transparent layers :( |
| 12:12:45 | moda` | so i have a background, and for the image with all 3 icons, the background is transparent, and it just shows as pink |
| 12:12:46 | moda` | hrm |
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| 12:15:35 | jungti1234 | It can't solve now? |
| 12:15:37 | moda` | and now, i get this: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3216/dump4001021412515sq.png |
| 12:15:43 | moda` | probably not jungti1234 |
| 12:15:51 | jungti1234 | hmm |
| 12:16:42 | jungti1234 | haha http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/25/254/03.jpg |
| 12:16:55 | jungti1234 | I'm solving it. |
| 12:18:27 | jungti1234 | moda |
| 12:18:41 | jungti1234 | This looks like much better. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4641/dump4001021337008yb.png |
| 12:19:09 | jungti1234 | like -> nice |
| 12:19:48 | Bger | guys, good GUI ICQ client for linux ? |
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| 12:21:51 | moda` | yea, thats the point, to look nice |
| 12:22:11 | jungti1234 | moda |
| 12:22:23 | moda` | yea |
| 12:22:34 | jungti1234 | um.. |
| 12:22:38 | jungti1234 | wait |
| 12:24:03 | muesli__ | Sweet jungti1234 |
| 12:24:15 | jungti1234 | :D |
| 12:24:21 | muesli__ | but take off that windows logo pls ;) |
| 12:24:36 | jungti1234 | heh |
| 12:24:39 | moda` | thats my wps muesli__ |
| 12:24:53 | jungti1234 | It is WPS that moda makes. |
| 12:24:55 | jungti1234 | hahaha |
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| 12:26:14 | moda` | moda = SubX. http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=36074 |
| 12:26:43 | jungti1234 | moda`: http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2767/dump4001031923241vz.png |
| 12:27:13 | moda` | made the background transparent? |
| 12:27:14 | jungti1234 | I changed it. |
| 12:27:17 | jungti1234 | no.. |
| 12:27:22 | jungti1234 | hey.. |
| 12:27:23 | moda` | how? |
| 12:27:35 | jungti1234 | It doesn't support. |
| 12:28:17 | moda` | hrm |
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| 12:29:10 | jungti1234 | moda`: LinusN speak to me 'It's no support plan'. |
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| 12:29:35 | moda` | ahh |
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| 12:31:35 | jungti1234 | moda`, I want it too... |
| 12:32:16 | LinusN | amiconn: what do you think about having 255,0,255 as a transparent color, and optimize with mask bitmaps internally? |
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| 12:34:09 | linuxstb | LinusN: Do you mean have 255,0,255 in external .bmp files, and then either the bmp loader (for wps bitmaps), or bmp2rb (for internal bitmaps) would create the mask? |
| 12:34:30 | LinusN | yup |
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| 12:38:06 | moda` | gah, why is this wps stuff so annoying |
| 12:38:20 | moda` | now, i have pink: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3216/dump4001021412515sq.png omfg |
| 12:38:28 | moda` | why wont it just work. hrm |
| 12:38:47 | jungti1234 | hahaha.. |
| 12:39:07 | jungti1234 | It's serious. :D |
| 12:40:00 | moda` | why is it doing this to me? |
| 12:40:42 | jungti1234 | ah? |
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| 12:41:00 | moda` | why wont it just be transparent, like its supposed to be |
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| 12:41:26 | jungti1234 | hm |
| 12:43:18 | preglow | Slasheri: faster boot? |
| 12:43:26 | Slasheri | preglow: yes, ~1s faster at least |
| 12:43:37 | preglow | ooh, splendid |
| 12:43:53 | Slasheri | and when we optimize the wps loading in a way or another, the boot would be _many_ seconds faster |
| 12:43:55 | preglow | have any tagcache time this weekend? |
| 12:44:04 | Slasheri | maybe |
| 12:44:19 | Slasheri | at least i might have today evening :) |
| 12:44:34 | jungti1234 | moda`, please answer. :P |
| 12:44:56 | moda` | sorry, been away |
| 12:45:14 | B4gder | shouldn't set_cpu_frequency() and cpu_boost() be empty macros on targets without support for them? |
| 12:45:32 | preglow | looking forward to see tag cache |
| 12:45:39 | preglow | don't know if i'll use it myself, but it'll sure be nifty |
| 12:45:39 | B4gder | would save a few #ifdef HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ |
| 12:45:49 | preglow | B4gder: agree |
| 12:46:00 | linuxstb | That doesn't work in the plugin api though. |
| 12:46:06 | B4gder | nope |
| 12:46:35 | Slasheri | Bagder: yep, at least cpu_boost should be |
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| 12:48:09 | LinusN | Bagder: yes they are emptu |
| 12:48:19 | LinusN | but not in the plugin sapi |
| 12:48:22 | LinusN | api |
| 12:48:36 | LinusN | since the preprocessor can't translate the "rb->" |
| 12:48:48 | B4gder | it was Slasheri's recent commit that made me say this |
| 12:49:02 | B4gder | it uses #ifdef for them |
| 12:49:23 | LinusN | all internal cpu_boost() calls can be removed |
| 12:49:34 | LinusN | i mean the #ifdefs can be removed |
| 12:50:48 | moda` | how many volume steps can the wps take? |
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| 12:51:43 | linuxstb | The ipod's don't define HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ - so those would be a good test for whoever makes that change. |
| 12:52:23 | moda` | LinusN: i did what you said, and i get this: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3216/dump4001021412515sq.png heh |
| 12:52:50 | jungti1234 | I want too |
| 12:54:26 | Membrillo | thats the wrong pink |
| 12:54:33 | Membrillo | it needs to be 255, 0, 255 |
| 12:55:16 | moda` | are you sure? |
| 12:55:28 | moda` | coz in photoshop it says 255,0,255 |
| 12:55:29 | moda` | hrm |
| 12:55:35 | moda` | will go check again |
| 12:55:52 | linuxstb | The png file contains #ff82ff - 255,130,255 |
| 12:55:59 | jungti1234 | ah |
| 12:56:10 | moda` | hrm |
| 12:56:11 | jungti1234 | It's png mistake. |
| 12:56:25 | linuxstb | Maybe. moda` Can you upload your bmp file? |
| 12:56:54 | moda` | yea, ok |
| 12:58:50 | moda` | i cant find an image host that will keep the original bmp intact, but heres a photobucket: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/modafroman/play1.jpg |
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| 12:59:14 | moda` | OMFG |
| 12:59:18 | moda` | it is the wrong pink |
| 12:59:25 | moda` | stupid photoshop |
| 12:59:25 | jungti1234 | what? |
| 12:59:29 | moda` | nevermind that |
| 12:59:31 | jungti1234 | damn |
| 12:59:44 | ST | hey guys, what does the Repeat (A-B) setting do |
| 12:59:48 | jungti1234 | I'm going to try it. |
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| 13:00:12 | ST | how is it different from the other repeat settings |
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| 13:01:41 | ST | ? |
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| 13:04:07 | Bger | ST it should be the same as iriver's one |
| 13:04:14 | moda` | OH MAN |
| 13:04:17 | Bger | or very simillar |
| 13:04:19 | moda` | this is just so annoying |
| 13:04:29 | Bger | -l |
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| 13:04:57 | jungti1234 | moda`: ? |
| 13:05:06 | NightCat | One question: wich targets (with working RB) have 320x240 LCD??? |
| 13:05:15 | moda` | now the whole background disappears when fastforwarding etc |
| 13:05:16 | moda` | gah |
| 13:05:44 | moda` | now im going to have to have the whole background on each one |
| 13:05:44 | ST | k |
| 13:05:46 | moda` | hrm |
| 13:05:52 | Paprica | mm there is a way to stretch an image? |
| 13:06:50 | jungti1234 | NightCat: iPod Video |
| 13:06:50 | Bger | NightCat i think there's no such atm... but there are plans for Toshiba GigaBeat ones ... |
| 13:07:20 | NightCat | iPod Video 320X240? |
| 13:07:23 | Bger | huh ??? |
| 13:07:25 | Bger | ipod video 320x240 ? |
| 13:07:36 | amiconn | LinusN, linuxstb: I plan to slightly change the meaning of the stride parameter |
| 13:07:41 | B4gder | Bger: yeps |
| 13:07:43 | jungti1234 | |
| 13:07:43 | jungti1234 | 320 x 240 Çȼ¿, 2.5ÀÎÄ¡ QVGA Ä÷¯ µð½ºÇ÷¹ÀÌ°¡ ÀåÂøµÈ iPod°ú ÇÔ²² Çϸé |
| 13:07:43 | jungti1234 | ¾ðÁ¦ ¾îµð¼³ª »çÁø°ú µ¿¿µ»ó (ÃÊ´ç 30ÇÁ·¹ÀÓÀÇ MPEG-4 ¶Ç´Â H.264 Æ÷ ¸Ë) À» °¨»óÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù.ÀÌÁ¦ Á¶±×¸¸ ȸ鿡 15ÇÁ·¹ÀÓÀ¸·Î µ¹¾Æ°¡´Â µ¿¿µ»óÀº Àؾî¹ö¸®½Ê½Ã¿À. |
| 13:07:43 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK jungti1234 |
| 13:07:43 | jungti1234 | |
| 13:07:47 | Bger | wow |
| 13:07:48 | jungti1234 | oops |
| 13:07:50 | jungti1234 | -_-; |
| 13:07:52 | ST | Bger: what does irivers one do?, i havent used it before |
| 13:07:56 | amiconn | No current code will be affected by this, except such using the player gfx lib |
| 13:08:38 | B4gder | NightCat: but none of them have a "working" rockbox if you mean fully functional audio etc |
| 13:08:52 | Bger | ST: you mark a start with a key combination ... after that you mark an end (probably with the same key combo) and it starts to repeat the sound from a till b |
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| 13:09:02 | B4gder | meaning that's a chance to dive in and help! |
| 13:09:13 | Bger | :P |
| 13:09:17 | NightCat | Nope, I mean just a work to port... |
| 13:09:20 | amiconn | Instead of being the number of fb_data elements, stride will now be the number of pixels to advance |
| 13:09:22 | Bger | (C) B4gder |
| 13:09:25 | NightCat | I have an H300... |
| 13:09:27 | B4gder | :-) |
| 13:09:43 | NightCat | And day after day I think that Ipod - better... |
| 13:09:56 | NightCat | :( |
| 13:10:01 | amiconn | This ensures portability across different pixel packings |
| 13:10:15 | ST | Bger: ohk, thx |
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| 13:11:16 | NightCat | Wich price is iPod Video? |
| 13:11:38 | jungti1234 | Which? |
| 13:11:52 | B4gder | 60GB at... 370 USD |
| 13:12:04 | Bger | B4gder really ? |
| 13:12:04 | B4gder | or so |
| 13:12:10 | NightCat | Video = G5? |
| 13:12:12 | B4gder | pricerunner says so |
| 13:12:14 | linuxstb | amiconn: Do you mean the width in pixels of the source bitmap? |
| 13:12:18 | jungti1234 | NightCat: yes |
| 13:12:27 | B4gder | http://www.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/personal-audio/mp3-players/browse?&search=apple+ipod+video&other_hits=95%3Aipod+video_338%3Aipod+video_72%3Aipod+video_199%3Aipod+video_x%3B%3B%3B16&filter_name=Apple%20IPOD&q=ipod+video&ref=redirect |
| 13:13:07 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes |
| 13:13:11 | moda` | oh fark |
| 13:13:45 | linuxstb | amiconn: OK, then can we change the name? For a "non-graphics person" like me, stride doesn't mean anything, but "src_width" is obvious. |
| 13:14:13 | moda` | im getting HUGE lag |
| 13:14:31 | NightCat | Fck... |
| 13:14:35 | NightCat | Sorry... |
| 13:15:08 | NightCat | 3 month ago I bought H320 for about 300 $... |
| 13:15:29 | NightCat | And now Video with 320x240 - the same price... |
| 13:15:37 | NightCat | :'( |
| 13:15:46 | NightCat | I'll cry all night long... |
| 13:16:01 | Bger | NightCat i bought 340 for $500 + shipping one year ago... :) |
| 13:16:16 | jungti1234 | haha |
| 13:16:20 | NightCat | :( :( :( |
| 13:16:22 | moda` | i bought a 340 for $700 a year and a half ago. i win |
| 13:16:29 | jungti1234 | wahahahahaha |
| 13:16:30 | linuxstb | And the Video also has a TV out capable of resolutions up to 480x480 or 640x360. 640x360 also happens to be a 16:9 ratio with square pixels. |
| 13:16:32 | Bger | moda` :D |
| 13:16:44 | moda` | of course, i am talking australian dollars :D |
| 13:17:08 | NightCat | I meand usd... |
| 13:17:12 | Bger | me too |
| 13:17:14 | NightCat | meant |
| 13:17:17 | jungti1234 | haha |
| 13:17:24 | Bger | ok, i'll say my price in ITL ... |
| 13:17:53 | NightCat | I'm looking on G5 now... |
| 13:17:56 | jungti1234 | He said other word alone. |
| 13:17:59 | NightCat | It's black... |
| 13:18:00 | linuxstb | Bger: Good luck finding a shop that will accept ITL.... |
| 13:18:09 | moda` | itl? |
| 13:18:12 | NightCat | It's so beauty... |
| 13:18:17 | jungti1234 | OTL |
| 13:18:34 | linuxstb | moda`: Italian Lira |
| 13:18:37 | moda` | oh |
| 13:18:53 | moda` | here hopes its right this time |
| 13:18:55 | jungti1234 | http://blogfiles16.naver.net/data1/2004/9/6/239/1-7819.jpg |
| 13:19:03 | moda` | *fingers crossed* |
| 13:19:31 | jungti1234 | http://blogfiles9.naver.net/data2/2004/9/3/296/5792-910.gif hahaha |
| 13:19:51 | B4gder | url hour |
| 13:19:51 | moda` | YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS OMFG W00T! |
| 13:19:52 | NightCat | We have (in Russia) iPod Video 30 GB for 10 838 RUR |
| 13:20:26 | moda` | btw, how many stepps can the volume take? |
| 13:20:37 | moda` | ive got 10, but it doesnt feel smooth to me :( |
| 13:20:47 | Bger | ~ $390 |
| 13:21:19 | NightCat | I WANT IPOD!!! |
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| 13:21:27 | moda` | anyone know? |
| 13:21:33 | LinusN | moda`: 10 |
| 13:21:44 | moda` | awww :( |
| 13:21:45 | moda` | oh well |
| 13:21:50 | moda` | 10 it is |
| 13:22:47 | NightCat | http://pleer.ru/_8302.html |
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| 13:23:39 | moda` | here in australia we have drop bears. when you walk below a tree, they fall off and land ontop of you. apparently in russia "The bears drop you" ahahah, sigh. lol |
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| 13:24:14 | Bger | NightCat but this is for a 30GB one |
| 13:24:30 | NightCat | But I have 20GB the same price!!! |
| 13:24:35 | Membrillo | they usually drop on you holding a bottle of alcohol, and speaking in a deap voice, show men how to pick up women |
| 13:24:39 | NightCat | And small LCD. |
| 13:24:40 | Membrillo | deep* |
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| 13:24:45 | B4gder | NightCat: but you can play ogg ;-) |
| 13:24:56 | moda` | yea, ftw Membrillo |
| 13:24:57 | moda` | :D |
| 13:25:06 | NightCat | But I need not that... |
| 13:25:14 | moda` | and promote bundy rum :D |
| 13:25:17 | NightCat | All my Music in MP3... |
| 13:25:25 | Membrillo | lol yeah, thats the one |
| 13:25:27 | Bger | having in mind that in bulgaria one ipod color 30GB is about 900BGN ... ~ #530 |
| 13:25:31 | Bger | $530 ... |
| 13:25:35 | B4gder | so why the whining? seel the iriver and buy an ipod |
| 13:25:39 | B4gder | sell |
| 13:26:10 | B4gder | there are lots of people who want to buy h3x0 players |
| 13:26:11 | NightCat | I'm already thinking about it :) |
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| 13:26:15 | NightCat | He... |
| 13:26:25 | linuxstb | Yes, more ipod developers please... |
| 13:26:53 | Membrillo | im an ipod developer in training |
| 13:27:05 | B4gder | :-) |
| 13:27:11 | NightCat | Is there USB HOST in Ipod video? |
| 13:27:37 | moda` | awwww :( i cant find the image that i was going to use |
| 13:28:22 | linuxstb | Yes, but I think Apple's firmware gives you limited (or no) access to. There is a third-party "usb camera adapter" available to connect via usb to digital cameras. |
| 13:28:37 | linuxstb | But the hardware itself is capable of usb host. |
| 13:29:01 | Bger | linuxstb are there any docs about this ? |
| 13:29:07 | linuxstb | hehehehehe |
| 13:29:14 | B4gder | haha |
| 13:29:30 | B4gder | I like that response |
| 13:29:45 | Bger | this usb camera adapter ... i think is pretty much the same as the USB OTG cables ... |
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| 13:32:21 | linuxstb | I think it's just a simple adapter to allow you to plug a usb cable into the ipod's dock connector. i.e. it just connects pins on a usb socket to pins in the ipod's dock connector. |
| 13:32:30 | | Part LinusN |
| 13:33:02 | Bger | hmz |
| 13:35:27 | jungti1234 | hm |
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| 13:36:22 | NightCat | No... No Ipod... (Sorry for Ipod users) iRiver PMP rules :) |
| 13:36:47 | jungti1234 | hey |
| 13:37:03 | jungti1234 | Iriver PMP perished. |
| 13:37:09 | NightCat | http://data.yandex.ru/i?ctype=1&path=b1125131855__026.jpg |
| 13:37:38 | jungti1234 | It's many bug. |
| 13:37:47 | B4gder | the Rockbox on PMP project needs people too ;-) |
| 13:38:07 | jungti1234 | Iriver doesn't supply PMP firmware. |
| 13:38:18 | NightCat | Yes, if RB will on PMP i'll buy it immediately :) |
| 13:38:40 | jungti1234 | How about Cowon A2? |
| 13:39:24 | NightCat | I think iRiver has better form. |
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| 13:39:34 | NightCat | It's like a game pad :) |
| 13:39:43 | jungti1234 | .... |
| 13:39:46 | jungti1234 | ah |
| 13:39:46 | jungti1234 | yes |
| 13:39:51 | NightCat | And it's good for RB and game developing :) |
| 13:39:52 | jungti1234 | agree |
| 13:39:57 | jungti1234 | :) |
| 13:40:43 | NightCat | But Cowon A2 is not very bad too:) |
| 13:40:53 | jungti1234 | hehe.. |
| 13:41:36 | jungti1234 | B4gder, How do you think about iriver PMP? |
| 13:41:48 | NightCat | Where can I get a big bag with money? |
| 13:42:04 | B4gder | jungti1234: well, it uses one of those undocumented TI things |
| 13:42:12 | B4gder | which is bad for rockbox porting |
| 13:42:20 | B4gder | TM270 |
| 13:42:27 | B4gder | DM270 rather |
| 13:42:34 | B4gder | arm7 |
| 13:42:41 | NightCat | B4gder: Somewhen we will find the info :) |
| 13:42:55 | jungti1234 | yes.. :) |
| 13:43:08 | B4gder | sure, you can always dissassemble |
| 13:43:22 | Bger | optimists ... :) |
| 13:43:36 | jungti1234 | Rockbox must support video for H300 before. |
| 13:43:49 | B4gder | jungti1234: don't let us stop you |
| 13:44:02 | jungti1234 | um? |
| 13:44:03 | linuxstb | jungti1234: What audio format do H300 videos use? mp3? |
| 13:44:12 | NightCat | If RB will support video on H300 it'll be great... |
| 13:44:13 | jungti1234 | avi |
| 13:44:16 | Bger | yep |
| 13:44:17 | Bger | 128 kbps |
| 13:44:23 | jungti1234 | ah |
| 13:44:26 | jungti1234 | mp3 128 |
| 13:44:32 | moda` | hrm, im stuck |
| 13:44:45 | NightCat | And XVid for video... |
| 13:44:48 | moda` | i have no idea what to do now :\ |
| 13:44:56 | Bger | up to 500kbs for video ... |
| 13:44:59 | jungti1234 | mp3 128 cbr |
| 13:45:01 | NightCat | Do a video support for us :) |
| 13:45:09 | moda` | as in, for my wps |
| 13:45:12 | Bger | but above 430-450 it starts skipping |
| 13:45:23 | jungti1234 | ? |
| 13:45:36 | jungti1234 | It supports 100000. |
| 13:45:53 | jungti1234 | I tested it. |
| 13:45:56 | Bger | jungti1234 we are talking about H300 |
| 13:46:02 | jungti1234 | me too |
| 13:46:06 | NightCat | Bger: How do you think will it support (with RB) better video? |
| 13:46:25 | preglow | not for a very, very long time |
| 13:46:28 | preglow | stop thinking about video |
| 13:46:37 | NightCat | Why? |
| 13:46:44 | NightCat | We want video... |
| 13:46:48 | jungti1234 | hehe |
| 13:46:57 | linuxstb | NightCat: Buy a TV |
| 13:47:01 | jungti1234 | wahahaahaha |
| 13:47:03 | Bger | NightCat because from a 120MHz we use about 40MHz only for 128kbps mp3 |
| 13:47:12 | preglow | NightCat: what i'm saying is it's going to take a very long time |
| 13:47:17 | preglow | it's not going to happen tomorrow |
| 13:47:27 | preglow | so it's no use speculating yet |
| 13:47:28 | NightCat | Ye... I know :( |
| 13:47:58 | jungti1234 | Bger: It was no limitation. |
| 13:48:42 | NightCat | em... Just some dreams... |
| 13:48:45 | Bger | NightCat and worse ... mirak tried xvid (mpeg4) and mpeg2 ... 220x176 (native resolution) *only video* and got about 2fps ... |
| 13:48:55 | jungti1234 | 2fps? oh... |
| 13:49:01 | B4gder | well |
| 13:49:06 | NightCat | Bger: Where? |
| 13:49:09 | linuxstb | Bger: I thought that was quite promising - considering he did absolutely no optimisation. |
| 13:49:11 | B4gder | the x5 plays xvid at 13fps |
| 13:49:30 | Bger | B4gder but on a way smaller lcd |
| 13:49:36 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:49:39 | B4gder | but still |
| 13:49:52 | Bger | iriver's h300 fw plays 10fpt |
| 13:49:54 | Bger | 10fps |
| 13:50:01 | NightCat | No, it's not a solution... |
| 13:50:01 | B4gder | given more efforts and skill, we should be able to do xvid at least playable |
| 13:50:28 | NightCat | Wich àçû for ex. on Video (Ipod)? |
| 13:50:28 | Bger | and these 10fps are with 128kbps mp3 |
| 13:50:34 | jungti1234 | Can Rockbox rise more than 10 fps? |
| 13:50:34 | NightCat | fps |
| 13:50:34 | NightCat | àçû |
| 13:50:51 | Bger | NightCat ipod video uses a DSP for video decoding ... |
| 13:50:54 | linuxstb | NightCat: 30fps I think. |
| 13:50:55 | jungti1234 | Is it possible by hardware? |
| 13:51:06 | NightCat | Ôðá yes. |
| 13:51:15 | Bger | linuxstb i suppose it's not documented ? ;) |
| 13:51:29 | linuxstb | No, the marketing department are OK for docs :) |
| 13:51:38 | NightCat | And iRiver PMP do so too... |
| 13:51:50 | Bger | maybe i'm really dumb, but i can't understand these NDAs ... |
| 13:51:55 | B4gder | the PMP also uses a DSP core |
| 13:52:02 | jungti1234 | hm.. |
| 13:52:40 | B4gder | the PMP is in fact using the "little brother" version of the chip Nueros is gonna use in their upcoming models |
| 13:52:42 | Bger | what do they gain with them ? |
| 13:52:49 | NightCat | I was thinking some days ago: why there are no PDAs with HDD inside? |
| 13:53:15 | moda` | there is |
| 13:53:19 | B4gder | Bger: we don't know, they don't tell thay without an NDA ;-) |
| 13:53:21 | moda` | the lifedrive is 4gh |
| 13:53:23 | B4gder | that |
| 13:53:24 | Rob2222 | is suse linux ok as linux to start with? |
| 13:53:40 | B4gder | Rob2222: I assume it is |
| 13:53:56 | moda` | btw, what fps do u reckon rb will be able to play once video has been worked on? |
| 13:54:02 | Bger | B4gder apart from the funny part, i really don't get it ... |
| 13:54:09 | linuxstb | Rob2222: I liked it when I used it. But that was a few years ago. |
| 13:54:36 | B4gder | Bger: I honestly can't think of many actual reasons either, other than some weird "protect your intelecutal property" paranoia |
| 13:54:41 | linuxstb | moda`: I would expect that (at best) Rockbox could do the same as the official firmware. |
| 13:55:00 | Bger | B4gder this is bullsh.t ... |
| 13:55:00 | Rob2222 | ok, im just installing it in a virtual machine |
| 13:55:00 | preglow | sure it can |
| 13:55:15 | preglow | just don't underestimate the amount of customisation we will have to do to the decoder to make it run that fast |
| 13:55:24 | NightCat | Wich cvs command to update all files without merge but with update? |
| 13:55:34 | B4gder | Bger: and there's a lack of customer's who object by putting their money elsewhere |
| 13:55:45 | moda` | i i hope for atleast 15fps :D |
| 13:55:54 | Bger | ... |
| 13:55:57 | preglow | haha |
| 13:55:58 | preglow | well |
| 13:56:02 | Bger | moda` hope first for 10fps ... |
| 13:56:03 | preglow | find some optimisaton gods |
| 13:56:06 | Bger | without sound :) |
| 13:56:10 | preglow | i can pretty much guarantee you i wont be working much on video |
| 13:56:23 | jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 13:56:34 | moda` | well, there is the guy who optimized rockboy |
| 13:56:36 | moda` | ... |
| 13:56:36 | Bger | preglow u don't wanna become a optimisation god ? ;) |
| 13:56:40 | linuxstb | preglow: I'm sure you'll get tempted by the dark side... |
| 13:56:56 | Bger | -a+an |
| 13:57:03 | NightCat | ? |
| 13:57:07 | muesli__ | strong u must be |
| 13:57:08 | muesli__ | .. |
| 13:57:35 | NightCat | The command wich will update all changed files? |
| 13:57:37 | Rob2222 | well |
| 13:57:50 | Rob2222 | maybe we can overclock our H300's .. ^^ :p |
| 13:58:07 | NightCat | Haha :) |
| 13:58:08 | Bger | Rob2222 in fact it's underclocked now |
| 13:58:11 | Rob2222 | I just reached 500MHz with watercooling. |
| 13:58:17 | linuxstb | NightCat: I don't understand what you want to do with cvs. What do you mean "without merge but with update"? |
| 13:58:25 | Rob2222 | Bger: Why? |
| 13:58:40 | Bger | Rob2222 regarding to the specs, the chip can go upto 140MHz |
| 13:58:50 | NightCat | I mean that cvs download files wich I change... |
| 13:58:56 | Bger | but then its not *cold*fire any more ... |
| 13:59:02 | Rob2222 | lol ok |
| 13:59:19 | Bger | according ... |
| 13:59:38 | Rob2222 | Cool, i want a pocket heater. |
| 13:59:42 | Bger | it's a bad day for my poor english skills |
| 13:59:52 | jungti1234 | hehe |
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| 14:00:21 | linuxstb | NightCat: So do you want to keep your changes, or have your changes replaced by what is in CVS? |
| 14:00:24 | moda` | hrm, i just killed half my wps. hrm |
| 14:00:52 | Rob2222 | Bger: No problem, simply speak german. :) |
| 14:01:12 | jungti1234 | moda`: :O |
| 14:01:17 | Bger | Rob2222 i don't speak that at all ... |
| 14:01:19 | NightCat | linuxstb: The second. |
| 14:01:21 | moda` | fixed it, kinda |
| 14:01:32 | moda` | problem is now i have a flickering bmp :9 |
| 14:01:34 | Bger | NightCat then just remove your files |
| 14:01:35 | linuxstb | NightCat: I just normally delete any files I have changed. |
| 14:01:46 | NightCat | linuxstb: I just want not that cvs download ALL files... |
| 14:01:48 | Bger | and it will put the cvs version there |
| 14:02:04 | Bger | NightCat then just be more specific |
| 14:02:09 | NightCat | linuxstb: :) I forgot some of them ... |
| 14:02:36 | moda` | how can i fix flickering bmps? |
| 14:02:40 | Bger | NightCat look for the lines starting with "M" while updating |
| 14:02:41 | linuxstb | If you just type "cvs update", then it will mark the files you have changed with an "M". You can then delete those files and run cvs update again. |
| 14:03:02 | Bger | as usual, linuxstb explained it better ;) |
| 14:03:07 | linuxstb | But slower.... |
| 14:03:18 | B4gder | or you patch away the local changes first: cvs diff | patch -p0 -R |
| 14:03:24 | NightCat | linuxstb: Ok, thanks again and again :) |
| 14:03:24 | B4gder | and then update |
| 14:03:45 | linuxstb | OK, B4gder wins. |
| 14:03:53 | NightCat | :) ;) |
| 14:04:06 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 14:04:06 | * | B4gder cheers |
| 14:04:11 | NightCat | People, all of you ROCKs :) |
| 14:04:42 | Bger | btw, it's written Rockbox ........ not ROCKbox... |
| 14:04:47 | Bger | someone should note this ... |
| 14:05:11 | Paprica | http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35852 |
| 14:05:14 | Paprica | crzy topic |
| 14:05:17 | Paprica | crazy* |
| 14:05:49 | jungti1234 | um? |
| 14:05:55 | Paprica | 15 new wps in 4 days |
| 14:06:03 | Paprica | 24 bit wps |
| 14:06:06 | jungti1234 | wow rockamp |
| 14:06:16 | moda` | i like the 2nd one |
| 14:06:28 | moda` | Paprica: one coming from me soon |
| 14:06:29 | B4gder | I like how they call them 24bit wps when the lcd is 16bit ;-) |
| 14:06:43 | Paprica | hihi |
| 14:06:48 | moda` | anyone know how to fix this problem: http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png ?? |
| 14:06:51 | NightCat | fools :) |
| 14:06:52 | Paprica | the bitmaps are 24 bit |
| 14:06:58 | B4gder | yes |
| 14:07:01 | B4gder | but not when shown |
| 14:07:17 | jungti1234 | What problem? |
| 14:07:42 | moda` | on the right hand side, its supposed to be the same as the left hand side up the top |
| 14:07:48 | preglow | some people really are doing cool stuff with colour wpses |
| 14:07:54 | NightCat | There is an colored WPS and nobody said it to me???!!! |
| 14:08:01 | NightCat | >:-/ |
| 14:08:03 | Paprica | lol |
| 14:08:12 | NightCat | Ar... Ar... |
| 14:08:30 | NightCat | How to do this, HOW? |
| 14:08:36 | NightCat | I have to know :) |
| 14:08:38 | moda` | anyone help me? |
| 14:09:38 | Paprica | look at misticriver |
| 14:10:40 | NightCat | I just jokeing :)\ |
| 14:10:49 | linuxstb | Paprica: Did you see my Brickmania CVS commit this morning? |
| 14:11:14 | NightCat | http://misticriver.net/attachment.php?s=2dac47e179d658895998e9b0d1ce10f8&attachmentid=3537&d=1138091692 |
| 14:11:20 | NightCat | Look at this :) |
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| 14:11:40 | jungti1234 | I know |
| 14:11:56 | jungti1234 | I know already!!!! |
| 14:11:57 | Paprica | yep |
| 14:12:00 | Paprica | and play it |
| 14:12:05 | Paprica | and it works fine |
| 14:12:06 | Paprica | =] |
| 14:12:28 | moda` | anyone? help fix wps bmp flashing? |
| 14:12:36 | linuxstb | Paprica: Good. Is the cpu_boost() definitely needed? Can you test how it works now without it? |
| 14:12:43 | jungti1234 | moda`: You help me. :( |
| 14:12:50 | Paprica | mm |
| 14:12:57 | NightCat | moda`: I think we have no flashing... |
| 14:13:11 | Paprica | i will try in a while |
| 14:13:14 | moda` | anyone know how to fix this problem: http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png ?? |
| 14:13:27 | moda` | theres a problem in that |
| 14:14:04 | jungti1234 | Was the image snapped? |
| 14:14:13 | moda` | yea, screendump |
| 14:14:29 | moda` | or, i dont understand question |
| 14:14:36 | jungti1234 | Check source. |
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| 14:18:16 | Paprica | mm |
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| 14:18:18 | Paprica | iriver: Init audio on background. |
| 14:18:25 | Paprica | what it does? |
| 14:20:23 | linuxstb | Paprica: I think it speeds up the boot-time by creating a background thread to initialise the audio. |
| 14:20:40 | Paprica | ah ok |
| 14:23:32 | Paprica | linuxstb, it works perfectly without the boost |
| 14:23:49 | Paprica | i thought that i play with the boost |
| 14:23:50 | Paprica | @@ |
| 14:24:18 | linuxstb | What about if you have music playing at the same time? |
| 14:24:26 | Paprica | mm |
| 14:24:28 | Paprica | second |
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| 14:26:26 | Paprica | mm |
| 14:26:30 | Paprica | work fine too |
| 14:31:36 | * | B4gder runs for zero-scoring |
| 14:33:32 | Moos | fixed the X5 sim warnings? |
| 14:35:41 | linuxstb | B4gder: Bejewelled would probably work on the X5 - using the iriver's mono bitmaps for now. |
| 14:35:53 | * | linuxstb accuses B4gder of a cheap fix :) |
| 14:36:02 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 14:38:37 | moda` | still having problems with my wps |
| 14:38:43 | moda` | http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png |
| 14:38:46 | * | B4gder takes shortcuts to score |
| 14:39:05 | jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/27/170/IMG_0532%286848%29.jpg |
| 14:39:15 | B4gder | and the sdl sim is *pain* to run over my wlan/ssh/x11 at work |
| 14:39:34 | moda` | and, my freaking battery bar wont work :( |
| 14:39:56 | Moos | Paprica: congrates for first commit ;) |
| 14:40:05 | Paprica | 10q =] |
| 14:40:16 | linuxstb | Paprica: Any more games planned? |
| 14:40:16 | B4gder | wooo |
| 14:40:30 | Moos | yes indeed :) |
| 14:40:30 | Paprica | mm dont know =] |
| 14:40:34 | Paprica | some ideas? |
| 14:40:47 | linuxstb | Pacman |
| 14:40:51 | jungti1234 | ah |
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| 14:40:54 | jungti1234 | good idea |
| 14:40:56 | Paprica | hihi |
| 14:41:08 | * | linuxstb wants a Pacman arcade machine emulator |
| 14:41:16 | Moos | :) |
| 14:41:17 | linuxstb | (in Rockbox) |
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| 14:41:27 | moda` | OMFG PACMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FTW! |
| 14:41:35 | moda` | so do pacman |
| 14:41:40 | moda` | best idea eva |
| 14:41:46 | moda` | ehem |
| 14:41:54 | B4gder | there's this asteroids in the patch tracker too... |
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| 14:42:19 | jungti1234 | http://blogfiles11.naver.net/data5/2004/10/27/138/sdfsd-joun9817.jpg |
| 14:42:48 | linuxstb | IIUC, the pacman arcade machine uses sprites for the maze and characters - so it would be possible to nicely resize it to all the Rockbox LCD sizes. Someone has even done this: http://pacifi3d.retrogames.com/pacifi3d/index.html |
| 14:42:55 | jungti1234 | I have pacman's some source. |
| 14:43:10 | moda` | :( |
| 14:43:16 | moda` | stupid battery bar |
| 14:43:41 | Moos | wasn't San working on pacman? |
| 14:43:49 | Moos | already I mean |
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| 14:45:16 | XavierGr | how can I see the expected build? |
| 14:45:31 | XavierGr | click on the time next to it? |
| 14:45:43 | XavierGr | yup that did it |
| 14:46:15 | Moos | or subscribe to cvs commit mailing |
| 14:46:38 | Moos | mail at each commit |
| 14:47:07 | XavierGr | I prefer to see them on the site. Too many commits will populate my mail... |
| 14:47:19 | Moos | poluate |
| 14:47:21 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 14:47:31 | XavierGr | ;) |
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| 14:51:22 | jungti1234 | http://javaboutique.internet.com/PacMan/source.html |
| 14:51:50 | jungti1234 | http://blog.naver.com/sdmer?Redirect=Log&logNo=100021134725 (korean) |
| 14:52:10 | dwihno | are there any reasonable explanations to why my usb mouse won't work in linux while connected through a usb-splitter hub (which actually works flawlessly when connecting a powered disk and a wifi-stick)? |
| 14:52:24 | moda` | FKING YES! |
| 14:52:35 | moda` | things are actually working |
| 14:53:07 | moda` | btw, anyone point me in the direction of a c video player? |
| 14:53:11 | ashridah | dwihno: are you using the hid driver, usbmouse, or a ps/2 emulation mode provided by the bios? |
| 14:53:46 | dwihno | ashridah: think it's hid, I access it via /dev/input/mouse0 |
| 14:54:10 | ashridah | try /dev/input/mice ? |
| 14:54:28 | dwihno | That also works (but not when I connect it through the hub) |
| 14:54:34 | ashridah | is the mouse being detected by usbview when it's plugged in? |
| 14:54:54 | dwihno | I check the /proc/bus/usb/devices and see an identical entry |
| 14:55:07 | dwihno | except different usb id's (hub causing that) |
| 14:55:14 | * | ashridah nods |
| 14:55:38 | dwihno | Can there be power issues? |
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| 14:55:53 | ashridah | for a mouse? I doubt it. |
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| 14:56:15 | Rob2222 | Damn, now I installed 2h SUSE in a Virtual PC and now it doesnt even start... grr |
| 14:57:14 | Rob2222 | hmph |
| 14:57:31 | dwihno | ashridah: Then I don't know what can be wrong... Everything else USB works |
| 14:58:19 | ashridah | weird. |
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| 14:59:47 | moda` | someone find me a c based video player! |
| 14:59:56 | preglow | there are tons of them |
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| 15:00:54 | moda` | a good one |
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| 15:01:05 | moda` | something that is port-able |
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| 15:07:17 | preglow | if you're talking for rockbox, just forget it |
| 15:07:21 | dwihno | ooga booga! |
| 15:07:27 | preglow | just get a decoder library and find some way to integrate video playback |
| 15:07:48 | NightCat | So fast? |
| 15:08:33 | muesli__ | somebody here running the optimized build? |
| 15:08:44 | NightCat | I want to try... |
| 15:08:52 | NightCat | (optimized build) |
| 15:09:04 | jungti1234 | me |
| 15:09:07 | Paprica | muesli__, what do you need? |
| 15:09:07 | NightCat | Reading info around it now... |
| 15:09:15 | muesli__ | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34725&page=41 |
| 15:09:17 | Rob2222 | Ive installes suse10 on a virtual pc and at first start im getting "Failed to start the X server" anyone a idea how to fix this? |
| 15:09:19 | NightCat | Paprica: Are you here? |
| 15:09:19 | muesli__ | see my post :o |
| 15:09:27 | Paprica | yep |
| 15:10:10 | NightCat | Paprica: Do you need some H300 game to your PLUGbox project? |
| 15:10:26 | jungti1234 | hm |
| 15:10:44 | Paprica | if you have, why dont you upload them to the patch traker? |
| 15:11:07 | NightCat | Paprica: I done an H300 based minesweeper... |
| 15:11:26 | NightCat | with colors and other... |
| 15:11:28 | Paprica | screendump? |
| 15:11:35 | NightCat | Yes, minute... |
| 15:11:57 | NightCat | http://h300.narod.ru/rockbox/rb_on_my_h320/ |
| 15:12:12 | NightCat | At the buttom... |
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| 15:12:28 | NightCat | Second plugin... |
| 15:12:46 | Moos | Paprica: now you've got CVS acces, is PLUGbox obsolete? :) |
| 15:12:57 | Paprica | no |
| 15:12:58 | jungti1234 | hehe NightCat likes black color |
| 15:13:09 | NightCat | Yep :) |
| 15:13:24 | Paprica | plugbox stay a place where the plugins only for h300 |
| 15:13:40 | Moos | isn't is the Rockbox way |
| 15:13:50 | Moos | s/is/in |
| 15:13:56 | NightCat | Paprica: What your wors will? |
| 15:14:11 | NightCat | wors=word... |
| 15:14:36 | Paprica | sec |
| 15:15:03 | Paprica | the site is very slow |
| 15:15:04 | Paprica | @@ |
| 15:15:13 | NightCat | Ye, I know... |
| 15:15:25 | NightCat | My bad... |
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| 15:15:31 | muesli__ | your cat needs to be pimped ;) |
| 15:16:14 | jungti1234 | hm |
| 15:17:00 | * | Moos is wondering why people make effort to maintain a parallel project instead of contributing to Rockbox itself :) |
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| 15:17:20 | moda` | Bandwidth: (Current Downstream: 1223.61kb/s ¤ Current Upstream: 21.73kb/s) |
| 15:17:22 | moda` | woot |
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| 15:17:45 | jungti1234 | oops |
| 15:17:52 | jungti1234 | very slow speed |
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| 15:20:07 | muesli__ | NightCat your cat needs to be pimped ;) |
| 15:20:10 | NightCat | Fu*king firewall... |
| 15:20:20 | NightCat | I was disconnected... |
| 15:20:29 | linuxstb | Moos: I don't see that big a problem with it - Rockbox has always had unofficial builds (remember the builds supporting the iriver remote?). if people extend Rockbox, then they have to use the GPL, which means we can take their code and commit it to Rockbox CVS even if they don't want us to :) |
| 15:22:10 | NightCat | If someone told something for me when I was dicsconnected, please retype it... |
| 15:23:07 | Moos | linuxstb: hehe you're right, but they could make job easier e.g making plugins valiable for all Rb devices..., and now Paprica have CVS access |
| 15:23:41 | linuxstb | Of course. We will assimilate them one by one.... |
| 15:23:48 | preglow | a bit of the point is that they don't want to make plugins available for all devices |
| 15:24:06 | NightCat | You're right... |
| 15:24:16 | Paprica | mmm why not? |
| 15:24:17 | Paprica | =\ |
| 15:24:21 | preglow | well, you tell me |
| 15:24:23 | B4gder | I predict that their build won't live for a long time |
| 15:24:31 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 15:24:34 | preglow | i'm just commenting on what i see |
| 15:24:40 | preglow | and i don't see any plugins for anything but h3x0 |
| 15:24:46 | B4gder | just because when we do major changes, things go painful |
| 15:25:00 | Paprica | i dont have a problem to port the plugins to other devices |
| 15:25:06 | linuxstb | Yes, ideally people should write for all targets. But I also think we should accept single-target plugins as long as there is an obvious desire amongst other devs to port it to their own players - I think this is the situation with Brickmania. |
| 15:25:19 | B4gder | I agree with that |
| 15:25:34 | Moos | here too |
| 15:25:37 | B4gder | a plugin for one target is better than no plugin |
| 15:25:41 | NightCat | linuxstb: And I. |
| 15:26:07 | Moos | linuxstb: but imagine if all dev thought in that way |
| 15:26:08 | NightCat | linuxstb: And then someone can update it for other platforms... |
| 15:28:00 | NightCat | For ex. now I want a colored WPS... |
| 15:28:09 | Moos | linuxstb: Rb would not be this that it is if everyone had proceeded as that |
| 15:28:13 | NightCat | Then I have 2 choises... |
| 15:28:24 | NightCat | Wait... |
| 15:28:27 | B4gder | no |
| 15:28:33 | B4gder | the choice is to *fix* |
| 15:28:35 | NightCat | Or download optimised RB... |
| 15:28:53 | NightCat | B4gder: What you mean? |
| 15:29:00 | moda` | anyone help? |
| 15:29:03 | NightCat | fix what? |
| 15:29:08 | moda` | http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png |
| 15:29:10 | B4gder | you always have the choice to fix |
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| 15:29:19 | B4gder | fix color wps for inclusion |
| 15:29:35 | B4gder | then it'll go into CVS |
| 15:29:48 | NightCat | But I have not enoth free time and experience... |
| 15:29:53 | jungti1234 | hmm.. |
| 15:29:57 | B4gder | that's one of the downsides with half-baked alternatives |
| 15:30:06 | B4gder | that people stay with that |
| 15:30:10 | NightCat | I want, really, but I can't... |
| 15:30:16 | jungti1234 | Poor moda` .... |
| 15:30:43 | jungti1234 | Anyone doesn't have answer. |
| 15:30:52 | linuxstb | Moos: That's true - but as B4gder said, a plugin for one target is better than no plugin. We obviously want to encourage all devs to write for all targets. |
| 15:31:02 | NightCat | Actually I can't understand - what the problem ;) |
| 15:31:22 | B4gder | there's a problem? |
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| 15:31:37 | Moos | linuxstb: indeed |
| 15:31:52 | NightCat | I'm about moda's problem... |
| 15:32:21 | NightCat | There is a picture, but what the problem?.. |
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| 15:32:35 | B4gder | btw, what color patch is that "optmized" build using for color wps? |
| 15:32:56 | B4gder | 1380389 ? |
| 15:33:14 | jungti1234 | ? |
| 15:33:19 | Bger | Mothers Intervening in the Compiling or Redistribution of Open-Source SOFTware (MICROSOFT) |
| 15:33:26 | jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 15:33:51 | jungti1234 | joke? |
| 15:33:55 | Bger | yep |
| 15:33:59 | jungti1234 | hehe |
| 15:34:04 | linuxstb | B4gder: There was a short patch (3 lines) on misticriver only (I think) that added transparency support to lcd_bitmap_part() by not drawing pixels with colour #ff00ff |
| 15:34:41 | linuxstb | I think that's the one in the "optimised" h300 build. |
| 15:34:55 | B4gder | and Linus' 24bit bpm loader then I presume? |
| 15:34:58 | B4gder | bmp |
| 15:35:03 | linuxstb | Yes, I think so. |
| 15:35:54 | Moos | linuxstb: it's good to here you're "coddling" this "optimised build" thing :) |
| 15:36:06 | linuxstb | And I think there is also Paprica's patch to give a height and left/right margins to the progress bar, and another one to add fg/bg colour tags to the wps. |
| 15:36:10 | linuxstb | Moos: I just spend too long here.... |
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| 15:36:24 | Moos | :-) |
| 15:36:47 | Paprica | and another one to add fg/bg colour tags to the wps. |
| 15:36:49 | Paprica | this not mine |
| 15:36:52 | NightCat | All here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35654 |
| 15:37:12 | Paprica | and the progress bar patch is in the patch tracker |
| 15:37:56 | B4gder | all green |
| 15:38:06 | NightCat | What green? |
| 15:38:08 | Moos | yes score at O |
| 15:40:18 | NightCat | Why are so many people here (on #rockbox)? Is they talking about something sometimes? |
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| 15:40:36 | NightCat | Or they all are spys? |
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| 15:40:49 | NightCat | :) |
| 15:41:09 | Moos | hehe, ask them |
| 15:41:10 | B4gder | it's the entire iriver development team |
| 15:41:26 | NightCat | And I'm in :) |
| 15:41:33 | NightCat | Cool :) |
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| 15:42:38 | Moos | with all those futur suported devices+irivers... lot of new people discovering Rockbox every day ;) |
| 15:43:34 | Moos | potentialy a lot of developers |
| 15:43:38 | B4gder | indeed |
| 15:43:39 | NightCat | (If we put some banners on rockbox.org ;) |
| 15:44:02 | linuxstb | And a lot of pesky users complaining about dBs and button mappings :) |
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| 15:44:13 | B4gder | ouch, users... |
| 15:44:19 | Moos | hahaha :D |
| 15:44:20 | preglow | beh |
| 15:44:25 | preglow | i'm tired of people complaining about the db issue |
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| 15:44:47 | Moos | yes it seems that subject don't want to closed |
| 15:44:57 | NightCat | It's about wrong volume? |
| 15:45:14 | Moos | dB scaling |
| 15:45:18 | NightCat | Or I don't understand something? |
| 15:45:34 | NightCat | Ok, then i'm understand it right :) |
| 15:45:47 | linuxstb | I think we should display the letters "dB" in the status bar though. The complaints are normally about "why does it go from -84 to 0", not "why is it in dBs?". |
| 15:46:06 | NightCat | Hehe :) |
| 15:46:09 | preglow | wont have room for that on archos |
| 15:46:17 | B4gder | yes at on non-Archos LCDs |
| 15:46:21 | B4gder | at least |
| 15:46:21 | linuxstb | But that shouldn't stop us doing it on other players. |
| 15:47:02 | NightCat | Who wants to add db? Rise your hands up :) |
| 15:47:16 | linuxstb | \o/ |
| 15:47:33 | Moos | :-) |
| 15:47:45 | NightCat | I'm interesting, why people so cares why it from -84 to 0... |
| 15:48:06 | NightCat | It works fine - yes, then what the problem? :) |
| 15:48:32 | Xerion_ | they might think it's a cosmetic bug since they have no clue ;) |
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| 15:48:58 | linuxstb | I think it's a fair question to ask. Without knowing it's dB, it does look odd at first sight. |
| 15:49:01 | NightCat | Mmm, I think maybe we need improve an option that users can choose Db or 1-100%? |
| 15:49:14 | preglow | i think that's a superfluous option |
| 15:49:19 | preglow | most users will be using a graphical wps |
| 15:49:22 | linuxstb | I agree. |
| 15:49:24 | preglow | at least that's my guess |
| 15:49:30 | B4gder | I think those who complain just are whiners |
| 15:49:32 | preglow | where the info will be represented graphically anyway |
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| 15:50:23 | NightCat | preglow: I use a graphick + numbers together |
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| 16:01:15 | zipr | Kind of related question: if I set all of the Rockbox settings to 0 dB is that equal to an acutal line out? |
| 16:01:46 | B4gder | yes |
| 16:03:42 | zipr | That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Perhaps we should have that in the manual somewhere, as I don't think that many people other than hardcore audiophiles know much about the dB system. |
| 16:04:27 | B4gder | yeps |
| 16:06:37 | elinenbe | B4gder: I have a suggestion... |
| 16:06:55 | elinenbe | how about split screen playlist viewer/WPS :-) |
| 16:07:15 | elinenbe | years ago I would joke about a gamboy emulator... now there really is one! |
| 16:08:18 | B4gder | well, I could easily imagine the playlist info getting availble for the wps |
| 16:08:23 | jungti1234 | bye |
| 16:08:27 | jungti1234 | good night |
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| 16:17:26 | nyonyai_csipcsi | sorry if my question is a little off. can u tell me what is the difference between iriver h340(2004) and h340SE(2005).the second is cheaper a little..???? |
| 16:18:41 | nyonyai_csipcsi | can it be that SE is weaker? |
| 16:19:18 | B4gder | more likely that the kit is different |
| 16:19:40 | Xerion | i think SE is without remote or with non-lcd remote |
| 16:20:00 | nyonyai_csipcsi | oo, yes hmm..i will ask..thanx |
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| 16:38:56 | lostlogic | LinusN: :( How the heck do they control the charge modes on that LX2201!? craziness! |
| 16:39:14 | LinusN | would be fun to find out |
| 16:39:25 | LinusN | i bet it's simple |
| 16:39:44 | LinusN | maybe it's time to fire up the disassembler |
| 16:40:03 | lostlogic | Yeah −− the interesting thing (to me) is that it's saved during power off, so it is most likely stored somehow in the backup battery powered PCF50606 |
| 16:43:21 | LinusN | yup |
| 16:47:04 | elinenbe | LinusN: did you end up getting a new h3x0? |
| 16:47:14 | LinusN | not yet |
| 16:47:26 | elinenbe | any decent leads −− other than ebay? |
| 16:47:35 | elinenbe | I just bought an extra one here... |
| 16:47:38 | LinusN | i have two leads other than ebay |
| 16:48:24 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 16:48:24 | * | linuxstb points LinusN towards the bright lights and shiny white toys in the Apple Store.... |
| 16:48:43 | LinusN | must....resist....ipod.... |
| 16:48:44 | elinenbe | http://www.warehouse123.com/ProductSearch.php?sType=1&sCat=ALL&sText=iriver |
| 16:48:57 | elinenbe | international version for a decent price... |
| 16:49:17 | preglow | dinner! |
| 16:49:20 | nyonyai_csipcsi | i hate ipod:)...can i suggest any feature for rockbox? |
| 16:49:25 | nyonyai_csipcsi | ...here |
| 16:49:40 | LinusN | preglow: enjoy |
| 16:50:04 | linuxstb | nyonyai_csipcsi: You can suggest here, but if you want anyone to remember, post them here: http://www.rockbox.org/requests.shtml |
| 16:50:18 | moda` | is there peak meter control? |
| 16:50:28 | moda` | how can i get it smaller than full screen? |
| 16:50:32 | B4gder | and mind you, a bazillion of features are already requested |
| 16:50:58 | linuxstb | Maybe we should just delete them all and start again... |
| 16:51:08 | B4gder | bazillion being the official term for "a larger amount than most people can grasp" ;-) |
| 16:51:50 | moda` | is menu skinning in the works? |
| 16:51:51 | B4gder | "Totally 420 requests ( marked as fixed, 416 open and 4 bad)" |
| 16:52:12 | nyonyai_csipcsi | ok, i got:) |
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| 16:53:09 | linuxstb | nyonyai_csipcsi: What is your feature request? |
| 16:53:27 | nyonyai_csipcsi | can rockbox make difference between one button pushed down and two? |
| 16:53:38 | nyonyai_csipcsi | if i am clear8 |
| 16:53:42 | B4gder | yes and no ;-) |
| 16:53:44 | linuxstb | Yes, with some restrictions on combinations. |
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| 16:54:58 | nyonyai_csipcsi | is there any feature that is useing this?for example faster scrolling when two is pushed? |
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| 16:55:12 | nyonyai_csipcsi | in file folders, i mean |
| 16:55:36 | linuxstb | I think holding ON whilst moving up/down is a page up/down feature. |
| 16:56:19 | nyonyai_csipcsi | i got email back, about SE, and they said that that's mean second edition :P arrrgh:) |
| 16:56:23 | lostlogic | nyonyai_csipcsi: teh AB repeat feature on most targets also uses it, as do the next dir and previous dir while playing. |
| 16:58:12 | nyonyai_csipcsi | but what if there is many files in one folder?:)okok |
| 16:58:32 | linuxstb | What you need is some kind of wheel device on the front of your player.... |
| 16:59:23 | nyonyai_csipcsi | nono:)just easy way to increase scroll speed |
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| 17:09:44 | Slasheri | Hmm, that crossfade thing in MR.. Cutting the previous song is an intended behaviour when track out fader is set to mix mode |
| 17:10:39 | Slasheri | but indeed, that shouldn't be used when manually skipping tracks so that would be a bug |
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| 17:13:57 | lostlogic | Slasheri: your recent changes to playback play right into my hands... I mean ... make what I want to do with improving the performance and thread safety of the pcmbuffer easier. |
| 17:14:16 | Slasheri | oh.. |
| 17:15:58 | Slasheri | hmm, i think the boot performance with audio initialization should be now as fast as it can be. Next thing would be to cache the wps files or introduce little modification to boot loader to allow dircache to be loaded from cache file very early |
| 17:16:17 | lostlogic | Instead of using basically a buffer of pcmbufdescs and then a pcmbuffer, I want to use a read linked list and a write linked list for the pcmbufdescs, and when someone requests a buffer, I want to hand them one, instead of just handing them a pointer where to write |
| 17:16:58 | Slasheri | lostlogic: that sounds very good, i have wanted a long time to dump that current pcm buffer structure.. |
| 17:17:28 | Slasheri | then we could easily allocate the pcm buffer dynamically also |
| 17:17:32 | lostlogic | cool, glad you agree, hopefully I'll have a chance to get it working for at least the basic case this weekend... maybe you can help me with the voice mixing and crossfade parts next week sometime |
| 17:17:41 | Slasheri | :) |
| 17:17:43 | lostlogic | yeah |
| 17:20:13 | Rob2222 | nyonyai_csipcsi: sorry if my question is a little off. can u tell me what is the difference between iriver h340(2004) and h340SE(2005).the second is cheaper a little..???? <= the SE has less accesoires. (nonlcd remote, ext. batterypack, cradle) |
| 17:21:58 | Rob2222 | lostlogic: Have you tried observing PCF registers for USB charge mode? |
| 17:23:05 | lostlogic | Rob2222: nope... I'm mostly moving on to the above mentioned playback stuff :) |
| 17:25:13 | nyonyai_csipcsi | oo, Rob2222, thanx |
| 17:25:17 | nyonyai_csipcsi | :) |
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| 17:28:05 | NightCat | Quicke question: #define PICTURES_FILE PLUGIN_DIR "/nightcat/minesweeperh300_pictures.h" #include PICTURES_FILE |
| 17:28:14 | NightCat | Why this does not work? |
| 17:28:19 | Bger | ah |
| 17:28:25 | Bger | is there new line |
| 17:28:33 | NightCat | Yes 2 lines. |
| 17:28:36 | Bger | between .h" and #include |
| 17:28:44 | NightCat | #define PICTURES_FILE PLUGIN_DIR "/nightcat/minesweeperh300_pictures.h" |
| 17:28:49 | NightCat | #include PICTURES_FILE |
| 17:28:52 | NightCat | Like this |
| 17:28:58 | Bger | ah |
| 17:29:03 | Bger | i don't have idea |
| 17:29:19 | Bger | but why don't just write #include ... |
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| 17:29:20 | NightCat | It wrotes that no such file... |
| 17:29:46 | NightCat | But there is such file... |
| 17:29:49 | Bger | PLUGIN_DIR = "/.rockbox/" |
| 17:29:57 | Bger | err |
| 17:29:59 | NightCat | Always? |
| 17:30:02 | Bger | PLUGIN_DIR = "/.rockbox/rocks" |
| 17:30:08 | Bger | yep |
| 17:30:14 | Bger | or something similar |
| 17:30:36 | NightCat | Ok i'll try that. |
| 17:30:52 | Bger | apps/settings.h:#define PLUGIN_DIR ROCKBOX_DIR"/rocks" |
| 17:31:14 | Bger | apps/settings.h:#define ROCKBOX_DIR "/.rockbox" |
| 17:31:47 | NightCat | :) |
| 17:31:58 | Bger | NightCat you should use #include "nightcat/minesweeper...." |
| 17:32:05 | Bger | or something like thiw |
| 17:32:08 | Bger | this |
| 17:32:10 | Bger | but gotta go |
| 17:32:11 | Bger | bye |
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| 17:33:22 | lostlogic | NightCat: #includes are not absolute paths, they are relative to the -I included dirs for the compiler |
| 17:33:35 | NightCat | Now I understand :) |
| 17:33:47 | NightCat | I'm stupid :) |
| 17:36:57 | linuxstb | NightCat: What are you trying to do? Do you want to use bitmaps in your plugin? |
| 17:37:22 | NightCat | Yes but without new system :) |
| 17:37:32 | * | linuxstb is offended :( |
| 17:37:45 | NightCat | Why? |
| 17:37:56 | NightCat | And what it is "offended"? |
| 17:38:42 | linuxstb | I'm only joking - I implemented the new bmp2rb build system. |
| 17:38:51 | linuxstb | But I'm curious why you don't want to use it. |
| 17:39:24 | NightCat | I try it already, and it works good, but what I think: |
| 17:40:19 | NightCat | I can put all images into one file.h and send to somebody two files: myprog.c and file.h and that is all.. |
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| 17:41:01 | NightCat | But with this new system I have to send many bmps... |
| 17:41:19 | linuxstb | zip? |
| 17:42:50 | NightCat | Yes but still some problems, for ex. I don't know, how to do a patch? |
| 17:43:20 | linuxstb | "cvs diff -u > mypatch.diff" |
| 17:43:47 | NightCat | And it send images with text to mypatch.diff? |
| 17:43:50 | linuxstb | That won't include the bmp files, so you'll have to zip those up separately. |
| 17:44:03 | linuxstb | But also, to add a plugin, you also need to edit SOURCES. |
| 17:44:16 | linuxstb | Your diff will include the required change to SOURCES. |
| 17:45:05 | NightCat | Yes, I know, but I need to write one string to SOURCES and putt 2 files for their places. |
| 17:45:47 | NightCat | It's much more easier, I think... |
| 17:45:59 | NightCat | Maybe I wrong? |
| 17:46:19 | NightCat | I'm just trying to select the better way for me... |
| 17:47:19 | NightCat | If I'll use the configfile RB library in my plugin, settings will be saved somewhere in RB? |
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| 17:48:18 | NightCat | linuxstb: ? |
| 17:48:36 | linuxstb | Yes - I think you give it a filename, and that file will be saved in .rockbox/rocks/ |
| 17:50:30 | NightCat | Gm, I just want to understand, what I should to use... |
| 17:50:43 | NightCat | For config and for images... |
| 17:51:37 | NightCat | I think, for the images will be better, if they will be uploaded by plugin when it is executed. |
| 17:51:49 | NightCat | From bmps. |
| 17:51:55 | linuxstb | For images, I think you should use the bmp system - it makes it much easier for others to use your plugin on other players. |
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| 17:52:34 | NightCat | Hm... |
| 17:52:38 | linuxstb | Loading the images at runtime is a bad idea - it means that your plugin will have to wake up the disk to access the images. It also adds to the number of files in .rockbox - we don't want too many files there. |
| 17:52:38 | NightCat | Ok. |
| 17:53:05 | linuxstb | It will also make your plugin run more slowly. |
| 17:53:12 | linuxstb | (or start more slowly) |
| 17:53:13 | NightCat | Yes |
| 17:53:37 | linuxstb | For the config, you can use configfile, and create a "minesweeper.cfg" file. |
| 17:54:07 | NightCat | Yes, but I can't understand C struct system yet... :) |
| 17:54:27 | NightCat | And without it, I can't use this function :) |
| 17:54:47 | linuxstb | Try and look at the other plugins that use it - brickmania, solitaire and euroconverter. I've never used it myself. |
| 17:55:02 | NightCat | :) |
| 17:55:21 | linuxstb | And also look at configlib.c and configlib.h themselves - they are in the apps/plugins/lib/ directory. |
| 17:56:36 | NightCat | You know I think that will be better that in all the plugins we can controll the playing... Am... |
| 17:56:44 | NightCat | My bad English. |
| 17:57:32 | NightCat | I mean, if I play in BrickMania for ex. sometimes I want to change the song or volume but I can't without plugin exiting... |
| 17:57:36 | linuxstb | I agree - I once had an idea to implement a "playback menu" in every plugin. Which would give you simple access to volume control, pause, play, skip etc. |
| 17:57:40 | lostlogic | NightCat: yeah, I've thought of that as well |
| 17:57:41 | lostlogic | haha |
| 17:58:07 | lostlogic | I bet we could add it to the plugin lib so that plugins could pick a button mapping to access playback if they wanted to |
| 17:58:07 | NightCat | People, we all together! :) |
| 17:58:30 | NightCat | Yes just map one button. |
| 17:58:52 | NightCat | Somethink like pause. |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:18 | NightCat | Ok, who wants to do this? |
| 18:00:33 | NightCat | ;) |
| 18:02:06 | DrMoos | maybe for devices with remote that could be "easier", use remote for playback... |
| 18:02:28 | Philip_0729 | i was thinking the same as DrMoos |
| 18:02:58 | NightCat | But can we control remote buttons without main? |
| 18:03:37 | DrMoos | ? |
| 18:03:56 | DrMoos | what do you mean? |
| 18:04:04 | NightCat | linuxstb, lostlogic: Where are you? :) |
| 18:04:30 | * | DrMoos is going back to work ;) |
| 18:04:41 | NightCat | Some time ago somebody said that they controlled together with main unit... |
| 18:05:39 | NightCat | I mean that pressing play on remote = on main... |
| 18:05:48 | NightCat | But I could be wrong... |
| 18:08:33 | linuxstb | NightCat: No, we can detect the buttons independently - if we wanted to. |
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| 18:10:12 | Xerion | http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=107623 |
| 18:10:13 | Xerion | :D |
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| 18:20:49 | Therx | hi all |
| 18:22:30 | linuxstb | Therx: How's it going? |
| 18:22:48 | Therx | yeh gd, it all works |
| 18:23:01 | Therx | now i want to start looking at programming bits myself |
| 18:23:04 | lostlogic | Febs: Started your user interface analysis yet? :) |
| 18:23:14 | Therx | ?!? wasn't going to... |
| 18:23:22 | Therx | oh sry |
| 18:24:16 | Therx | yeh, i just need to get to grips with the rockbox source tree, or i might try writing a kernel from scratch... |
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| 18:55:05 | San||Away | hey |
| 18:55:08 | San||Away | can anyone tell me how to fix this: |
| 18:55:09 | San||Away | http://pastebin.com/525952 |
| 18:55:21 | San||Away | i did try an fresh source, but nothing |
| 18:55:22 | San||Away | :( |
| 18:55:26 | Bger | sec |
| 18:55:55 | Bger | are you sure it's a fresh source ? |
| 18:56:06 | San||Away | yes |
| 18:56:11 | Bger | DevKit ... |
| 18:56:11 | linuxstb | Do you have the file apps/settings_menu.c ? |
| 18:56:16 | San||Away | yes |
| 18:56:17 | Bger | did you reran configure? |
| 18:56:23 | Bger | rerun |
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| 18:56:24 | San||Away | yes |
| 18:56:38 | San||Away | i will download the dev kit again |
| 18:57:02 | linuxstb | Don't do that :) Do this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 18:57:12 | linuxstb | (the new Rockbox cygwin packages) |
| 18:57:30 | San||Away | ah, ok |
| 18:57:32 | San||Away | thanks |
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| 18:59:51 | San||Away | hhhm |
| 18:59:54 | San||Away | its working now |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:05 | San||Away | I am using another dev kit I found on the other disk |
| 19:00:12 | San||Away | damn |
| 19:00:16 | San||Away | just as I said that |
| 19:00:17 | San||Away | lol |
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| 19:03:37 | Bger | linuxstb there is a cygwin package ? |
| 19:03:54 | linuxstb | For the various cross-compilers, yes. |
| 19:04:05 | linuxstb | Linus set them up a few days ago. |
| 19:05:03 | San||Away | how would one use the cygwin compiler? |
| 19:05:42 | linuxstb | Exactly the same as the devkit. |
| 19:05:56 | San||Away | so, make a folder called home/guest/build |
| 19:06:05 | San||Away | and but the source in /home/guest ? |
| 19:06:10 | San||Away | *put |
| 19:06:38 | linuxstb | A "real" Cygwin installation will create a home directory with the same name as your Windows username - e.g. /home/san/ (if your Windows log is "san") |
| 19:07:13 | San||Away | in the install folder? |
| 19:08:31 | linuxstb | By default, you will get a C:\cygwin folder - and /home/san in Cygwin will be c:\cygwin\home\san in Windows. |
| 19:08:58 | linuxstb | When you start Cygwin, it will put you in the /home/san folder. |
| 19:09:18 | linuxstb | So you can just download your Rockbox source, and put it in c:\cygwin\home\san\ |
| 19:09:30 | linuxstb | And then you'll see it when you start cygwin. |
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| 19:11:16 | San||Away | it never installed with a /home folder |
| 19:11:52 | linuxstb | What didn't, cygwin? |
| 19:12:10 | San||Away | yes |
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| 19:13:03 | linuxstb | Then something must have gone wrong with the installation. |
| 19:13:15 | linuxstb | (or you didn't fully run the installation to the end) |
| 19:14:15 | San||Away | it asks me what packages I want to install |
| 19:14:19 | San||Away | i just clicked next |
| 19:14:24 | San||Away | would that be the problem? |
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| 19:16:08 | BHSPitLappy | San||Away: administrative priveleges? |
| 19:16:13 | San||Away | yes |
| 19:16:22 | linuxstb | I don't know, but it's always created a home directory for me. |
| 19:16:28 | San||Away | ok |
| 19:16:32 | San||Away | doesn't really matter |
| 19:16:37 | San||Away | i just needed to build a sim |
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| 19:16:51 | linuxstb | But if you have both cygwin and the devkit installed, they might interfere with each other. |
| 19:17:01 | linuxstb | (I'm guessing now.... ) |
| 19:17:14 | San||Away | hhhm |
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| 19:42:39 | XavierGr | Is there any major differences between the normal LCD remote of H100 and the LCD remote of H300? |
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| 19:45:50 | mirak | XavierGr: nope |
| 19:46:37 | linuxstb | mirak: Ported any new video codecs? |
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| 19:47:56 | XavierGr | mirak: so they have the same lcd? |
| 19:48:30 | mirak | linuxstb: no, I am done |
| 19:48:34 | mirak | :D |
| 19:48:49 | linuxstb | :( |
| 19:48:51 | mirak | XavierGr: from what I have heard they are interchangeable |
| 19:49:10 | mirak | linuxstb: only optimisation could be worked on |
| 19:49:21 | mirak | well at least that's what I would work on |
| 19:49:35 | linuxstb | There are other decoders - e.g. ffmpeg decoders. |
| 19:49:44 | mirak | what do you mean ? |
| 19:50:25 | mirak | wich codec could be intersting ? linuxstb ? |
| 19:51:02 | mirak | in fact my main motivation was to get more than 10 fps out of the H300 |
| 19:51:21 | mirak | but iriver did a very good job |
| 19:51:45 | mirak | :( |
| 19:51:59 | mirak | I hoped they did bad job, but no :D |
| 19:53:01 | linuxstb | I mean there may be better xvid decoders than xvidcore. |
| 19:53:16 | linuxstb | And I agree, I think iriver did well to get 10fps out of the H300. |
| 19:54:33 | Paprica | mirak, so no chance to get more than 10fps from h300? |
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| 20:03:38 | Bger | XavierGr the remotes are nearly the same, LCD-wise are completely equal |
| 20:04:49 | Bger | the real differences are |
| 20:05:00 | Bger | 1) the resistor network |
| 20:05:11 | Bger | 2) the situation of the buttons |
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| 20:05:44 | Bger | 3) 2 of the buttons on H100's one are BITRATE & SOURCE, they are named +10 and -10 on H300's one |
| 20:07:15 | XavierGr | Bger so there is no reason to buy an H300 remote right? |
| 20:07:44 | XavierGr | only thing that bothers me is that my H100 is clicky and I don't know if it is the remote to blame or the unti. |
| 20:07:46 | Bger | XavierGr imho the h300's one is much much better |
| 20:07:52 | Bger | than h100's one |
| 20:08:18 | Bger | u'll get a h300, yeah ? |
| 20:08:53 | XavierGr | yes |
| 20:14:02 | NightCat | Am, small question: how to wrap line in splash()? |
| 20:14:43 | NightCat | I tried: rb->snprintf(tstr,sizeof(tstr),"a \n d");rb->splash(HZ*2, true, tstr); |
| 20:15:02 | NightCat | But it's not work... |
| 20:15:52 | Bger | NightCat afaik the splash reorders the words to fit on the screen |
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| 20:16:54 | NightCat | I know, i just ask a symbol, wich wrap the string... |
| 20:17:49 | NightCat | It have to be \n but on screen I have "lf" instead of string wrap... |
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| 20:18:39 | linuxstb_ | NightCat: I don't think splash() supports wrapping strings - you can only display a single line. But I could be wrong. |
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| 20:19:21 | NightCat | Ok. |
| 20:19:25 | Bger | linuxstb u're wrong |
| 20:19:31 | linuxstb | OK :) |
| 20:19:39 | Bger | if(x+w> screen->width) { |
| 20:19:39 | Bger | /* Too wide, wrap */ |
| 20:19:51 | NightCat | It wraps but very bad... |
| 20:19:52 | Bger | apps/gui/splash.c 73 |
| 20:19:53 | NightCat | :( |
| 20:19:57 | Bger | and also |
| 20:20:07 | Bger | widths[line]=x-SPACE; /* don't count the trailing space */ |
| 20:20:19 | NightCat | Ok. |
| 20:20:57 | Bger | NightCat what do you want to do ? |
| 20:21:03 | Paprica | mm |
| 20:21:07 | Paprica | instead of |
| 20:21:07 | Paprica | if(data->wps_sb_tag && data->show_sb_on_wps) |
| 20:21:07 | Paprica | offset = STATUSBAR_HEIGHT; |
| 20:21:07 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Paprica |
| 20:21:07 | Paprica | else if ( global_settings.statusbar && !data->wps_sb_tag) |
| 20:21:07 | Paprica | offset = STATUSBAR_HEIGHT; |
| 20:21:13 | Paprica | we cant write |
| 20:21:17 | Paprica | if((data->wps_sb_tag && data->show_sb_on_wps) || |
| 20:21:18 | Paprica | (global_settings.statusbar && !data->wps_sb_tag)) |
| 20:21:18 | Paprica | offset = STATUSBAR_HEIGHT; |
| 20:21:20 | Paprica | ? |
| 20:21:40 | linuxstb | Paprica: Where is that? |
| 20:21:49 | Paprica | gwps.c |
| 20:21:56 | Paprica | line 71 |
| 20:22:04 | NightCat | Bger: Forget. I just want to display 3 lines, not one. But it is not nececcory... |
| 20:22:59 | Bger | NightCat hm |
| 20:23:59 | linuxstb | Paprica: Yes, that looks a strange if statement. |
| 20:24:18 | Paprica | =\ |
| 20:24:38 | Bger | this code is such a mess .. so this doesn't surprise me at all :)P) |
| 20:25:05 | linuxstb | We lost TiMiD... |
| 20:25:28 | Bger | he is in japan, afaik ... |
| 20:26:04 | linuxstb | They have the Internet there.... |
| 20:26:09 | preglow | haha |
| 20:26:15 | Bger | but don't have time ... |
| 20:26:25 | linuxstb | No excuse. No-one has time for Rockbox. |
| 20:26:27 | preglow | didn't someone mail him and ask what's up, to which he replied he'd be back online soon? |
| 20:26:49 | Bger | haha maybe she met The Girl :P |
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| 20:36:47 | * | preglow tickles the equaliser |
| 20:37:29 | * | linuxstb pokes at the fiq |
| 20:37:54 | preglow | this bastard's got a heart of stone |
| 20:37:58 | preglow | small wonder, i created it |
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| 20:39:36 | AndyY | I wrote a guide how to use IDA to analyze Iaudio's firmware.. hope you enjoy :) |
| 20:45:37 | preglow | cool |
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| 20:47:21 | San | can someone do me a favor please? |
| 20:48:01 | preglow | depends |
| 20:48:15 | linuxstb | preglow: If you have a minute, should the following be all I need to do in crt0.S to set up the FIQ: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/crt0_fiq.diff |
| 20:48:56 | San | can someone send me a H300 sim please? |
| 20:50:42 | preglow | linuxstb: looks good, though we'll want to write as much as possible of the fiq handler in asm |
| 20:51:00 | preglow | to minimise use of the registers that aren't banked |
| 20:51:04 | linuxstb | Of course. I'm trying to get something working first. |
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| 20:51:58 | linuxstb | At the moment, my fiq() function simply increments a counter (which I display in the audio debug screen). But the counter isn't being incremented, so my fiq routine isn't being called at all. |
| 20:51:59 | preglow | but yeah |
| 20:52:07 | preglow | just make sure the fiq disable flag is cleared some place |
| 20:52:18 | preglow | tomal removed that part of the code from crt0.S and put it somewhere else |
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| 20:54:15 | Paprica | mm how can i set function with parameter that not need to be provided all time? |
| 20:54:28 | Bger | (...) |
| 20:54:43 | Bger | Paprica look at firmware/common/... |
| 20:54:57 | Moos | linuxstb: don't worrie, TiMiD don't have forget Rockbox and didn't go to Japon yet afaik |
| 20:55:06 | Bger | Paprica look at firmware/common/sprintf.c |
| 20:55:13 | Paprica | ok |
| 20:55:15 | Paprica | 10q |
| 20:55:55 | Moos | linuxstb: he have to finish all his studies his studies projects first and he don't have internet access yet |
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| 20:56:17 | Bger | Paprica only one parameter ? |
| 20:56:23 | Paprica | yep.. |
| 20:56:27 | Bger | hm |
| 20:56:28 | Bger | sec |
| 20:56:41 | Paprica | ok |
| 20:56:44 | Paprica | 10x |
| 20:57:38 | Moos | AndyY: I hope dev will come around ;) |
| 20:57:48 | Bger | hm, this seems to be the only way :) |
| 20:57:54 | Bger | i was confused wit C++ |
| 20:58:20 | Paprica | mm ok |
| 20:58:32 | Bger | there you can make things like int func(int a=def_value) |
| 20:58:58 | Bger | or difine diff functions with the same name but different params |
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| 21:00:32 | Bger | define ... |
| 21:00:34 | Bger | never mind |
| 21:00:50 | Paprica | =\ |
| 21:00:58 | linuxstb | Paprica: The simpliest solution is just to always pass one parameter to the function. |
| 21:01:51 | Paprica | dont understood |
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| 21:02:03 | Bger | Paprica just use some unusual value |
| 21:02:12 | Paprica | mm |
| 21:02:15 | Bger | and check for it in the func() itself ... |
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| 21:02:38 | Paprica | but its a function in lcd-16bit.c |
| 21:02:38 | Bger | or use value that doesn't matter ... |
| 21:02:48 | Paprica | =\ |
| 21:02:49 | Bger | what do you want to od ? |
| 21:02:51 | Bger | do |
| 21:03:04 | Paprica | mm range for scrolling text |
| 21:03:20 | Paprica | the x1 allready done |
| 21:03:30 | Paprica | now i need the x2 |
| 21:03:58 | mirak | linuxstb: well mpeg2 gave bad result as well |
| 21:04:15 | Bger | so you don't want to rewrite all calls to this func ? |
| 21:04:16 | mirak | Paprica: with xvid, hardly |
| 21:04:21 | Bger | for one param more ? |
| 21:04:31 | Paprica | yep |
| 21:04:42 | Paprica | mm will use a variable |
| 21:04:56 | Paprica | not in the fuction |
| 21:05:02 | Bger | hm ? |
| 21:05:06 | Bger | global var ? |
| 21:05:12 | Bger | i don't think it's a good idea |
| 21:05:14 | Paprica | void lcd_setmargins(int x, int y) |
| 21:05:15 | Paprica | { |
| 21:05:15 | Paprica | xmargin = x; |
| 21:05:15 | Paprica | ymargin = y; |
| 21:05:15 | Paprica | } |
| 21:05:21 | Paprica | somthing like this.. |
| 21:05:34 | Bger | hmm |
| 21:05:37 | Paprica | its not a global |
| 21:05:43 | Bger | yes, i saw it |
| 21:05:49 | Paprica | =] |
| 21:06:12 | Bger | but... it has some drawbacks... |
| 21:06:50 | Bger | like one thread sets it to diff than LCD_WIDTH, and other expects it to be LCD_WIDTH |
| 21:07:03 | Bger | so you'd call this func too |
| 21:07:11 | Bger | if i understand your idea correctly |
| 21:07:21 | linuxstb | That's not a problem though - I think only the main thread uses the LCD. |
| 21:07:39 | linuxstb | We also have functions to change the fg and bg colour. |
| 21:07:45 | Bger | yep, u're right |
| 21:07:58 | Bger | but it'll be a bit artifical... |
| 21:08:28 | linuxstb | But for Paprica's problem, I would add a new function that takes the extra two parameters. |
| 21:09:03 | Paprica | for what i want to do? |
| 21:09:09 | Bger | in the matter of that some scroll funcs take left offset (only) |
| 21:09:16 | linuxstb | You want to add margins to scrolling text? |
| 21:09:22 | Paprica | yep |
| 21:09:24 | Paprica | in wps |
| 21:09:48 | Paprica | very usefull in the new 24 bitmaps wps |
| 21:10:17 | Bger | 16 :P |
| 21:10:24 | Paprica | yep |
| 21:10:33 | Paprica | in the pkayer its 16 |
| 21:10:34 | Paprica | ;] |
| 21:11:14 | linuxstb | The existing scroll function is just a special case of your new one. So you can replace the existing scroll function by a call to your new function. |
| 21:12:26 | Paprica | i now |
| 21:12:39 | Paprica | i use the existing |
| 21:21:08 | AndyY | Moos: who is dev? |
| 21:21:58 | Moos | AndyY: All futur developers wanted to help ;) |
| 21:23:26 | AndyY | Moos: yep |
| 21:24:22 | Moos | AndyY: did you already take a look at the Rockbox current source code? |
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| 21:31:26 | AndyY | Moos: yes, I have contributed to the rockbox.. but I don't have X5 (yet) |
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| 21:41:00 | LinusN | amiconn: there? |
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| 21:42:05 | amiconn | yes |
| 21:42:22 | LinusN | i was thinking about the color bitmap support we discussed earlier |
| 21:43:46 | LinusN | do you think it would be good enough to let transparent bitmaps have a transparent color, and let the bitmap loader create the mask? |
| 21:44:18 | LinusN | would make the wps creation simpler than having to maintain a mask |
| 21:44:23 | amiconn | yes |
| 21:44:37 | LinusN | we could do the same for grayscale |
| 21:44:54 | preglow | amiconn: are you perfectly certain the mask bitmap approach will be faster? |
| 21:44:57 | linuxstb | And bmp2rb could do the same for "internal" bitmaps. |
| 21:45:08 | LinusN | one question is which color to make transparent |
| 21:45:13 | preglow | LinusN: btw, is it safe to assume that our arm cores use burst mode? i think it sounds unlikely it doesn't |
| 21:45:23 | LinusN | hard-coded 255,0,255? |
| 21:45:24 | amiconn | The intenal processing should be done with a mask, for better speed and uniform code across high-depth and low-depth displays |
| 21:45:36 | LinusN | preglow: i have no idea |
| 21:45:47 | preglow | LinusN: hard coded completely crazy shade of pink is what all people use for transparent colour |
| 21:45:57 | LinusN | amiconn: provided that there isn't a performance penalty of course |
| 21:46:07 | amiconn | The loader could define a special colour as transparent, which should imho be the same for all targets, i.e. also greyscale |
| 21:46:28 | LinusN | then i suggest 255,0,255 |
| 21:46:53 | amiconn | This doesn't mean we need high-depth BMPs for H1x0, a 4-bit BMP will do |
| 21:47:09 | amiconn | The palette would then contain one entry with this crazy colour |
| 21:47:16 | LinusN | in the meantime, i think we could do a naive color comparison in lcd_bitmap() for color targets |
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| 21:47:29 | LinusN | amiconn: yes |
| 21:48:14 | amiconn | Hehe, it would be funny if someone tries to use the german 'Telekom' logo then |
| 21:48:25 | amiconn | It could end up invisible... |
| 21:48:35 | LinusN | lol |
| 21:49:17 | LinusN | that logo is very pink indeed |
| 21:49:25 | LinusN | awful |
| 21:51:09 | preglow | sweet lord |
| 21:51:10 | preglow | btw |
| 21:51:20 | preglow | did tomal post his disassembler somewhere? |
| 21:51:26 | preglow | the crazy-ass lisp based one |
| 21:52:02 | linuxstb | I don't think so. |
| 21:52:29 | aegray | :( |
| 21:52:55 | linuxstb | He seemed willing to though. |
| 21:56:28 | linuxstb | LinusN: Wouldn't it be better to have two lcd_bitmap() functions - one that handles transparency, and one that doesn't, rather than slowing down every bitmap draw. |
| 21:56:45 | LinusN | linuxstb: perhaps |
| 21:56:52 | preglow | i'm sure he's willing, it's just the fact that it doesn't interact too well with people, heh |
| 21:57:15 | linuxstb | The WPS code could then be changed to analyse the input bitmap, and call the appropriate function. |
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| 21:58:44 | preglow | i think that'd definitely be the best idea |
| 21:59:06 | LinusN | linuxstb: i think the wps code could start with always using the transparent function |
| 21:59:38 | LinusN | the bmp loader doesn't know if the loaded bitmap is transparent or not |
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| 22:00:56 | amiconn | I think it should be possible to tell the bmp loader whether it should load the bitmap as transparent or not |
| 22:01:33 | lostlogic | seems like it should be configurable by the wps creator, whether a given image entry should be loaded transparent or not. |
| 22:01:54 | preglow | how about we just assume that colour will never be used? :> |
| 22:01:59 | preglow | no one in their right minds would anyway |
| 22:02:03 | preglow | apart from deutsche telekom |
| 22:02:10 | preglow | i assume they aren't in their right minds |
| 22:02:15 | Rob2222 | hi all |
| 22:02:24 | lostlogic | preglow: in a game, that color might be hit as aprt of an explosion or sunset or something? |
| 22:02:26 | XavierGr | amiconn: did the ondio worked with battery_bench? |
| 22:02:32 | amiconn | yes |
| 22:03:02 | XavierGr | ok good to know |
| 22:03:04 | amiconn | The only problem were the clipped info text when starting the plugin |
| 22:03:13 | amiconn | s/were/was/ |
| 22:03:23 | preglow | lostlogic: wasn't serious anyway |
| 22:03:32 | XavierGr | I will inform Bger |
| 22:03:33 | lostlogic | ah, sorry, can't read sarcasm :) |
| 22:04:49 | preglow | lostlogic: just assume i'm sarcastic 50% of the time, and you'll do well |
| 22:06:12 | aegray | 50% only? |
| 22:06:13 | aegray | wimp |
| 22:08:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: So, should we just be flipping coins on each post? |
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| 22:09:30 | Rob2222 | If Suse in VirtualPC is faster than Cygwin? |
| 22:10:37 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: i suggest you just stop paying attention to me, altogether easier |
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| 22:16:52 | amiconn | Rob2222: For building rockbox it certainly is |
| 22:17:24 | amiconn | I am running debian testing in a VM. Compiling rockbox there is 3 times faster than doing it in cygwin on the very same host |
| 22:18:39 | amiconn | Maybe it's somewhat slower in VirtualPC |
| 22:19:01 | ender` | cygwin is slow |
| 22:19:06 | ender` | that's common knowledge |
| 22:20:04 | Rob2222 | amiconn: OK thx. Then I will start building the cross compiler |
| 22:24:40 | Rob2222 | btw, is the ipod i2s driver much work? |
| 22:24:43 | XavierGr | do you think I could build rockbox from damn small linux? |
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| 22:32:53 | Rob2222 | I dont know why the graphic is very slow at a virtual PC. is it normal? |
| 22:33:00 | Rob2222 | i mean 2D graphic |
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| 22:39:43 | Rob2222 | configure error: no aceptable cc found in path |
| 22:39:44 | Rob2222 | cc? |
| 22:40:09 | Bagder | cc being the standard unix name for the compiler |
| 22:40:27 | Bagder | CC=gcc ./configure |
| 22:40:39 | Bagder | or similar |
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| 22:41:32 | Rob2222 | hmm, i had installed gcc with suse linux |
| 22:41:52 | Rob2222 | ill check again |
| 22:42:04 | Bagder | ... then configure should of course find it |
| 22:43:07 | Rob2222 | btw, is there a "standart" irc client in suse maybe? |
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| 22:44:12 | lostlogic | Rob2222: it probably comes with one or two... bitchx, irssi, or xchat are likely candidates |
| 22:44:25 | Rob2222 | ok, ill look. |
| 22:44:31 | Rob2222 | gcc wasnt installed. |
| 22:44:37 | Rob2222 | i was sure i selcted it |
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| 22:52:11 | Rob2222 | which irc client is good? |
| 22:52:24 | Rob2222 | much in package but no one installed, yet. |
| 22:52:39 | Bagder | xchat is fine enough imho |
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| 22:53:16 | Bagder | there should be a death penalty for wikispamming |
| 22:53:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, xchat is pretty nice. |
| 22:53:49 | Rob2222 | wikispammin? ho does it? |
| 22:53:51 | Rob2222 | w |
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| 22:54:12 | Bagder | stupid users regestering and filling loads of pages with links |
| 22:54:28 | Bagder | usually hidden |
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| 22:56:08 | rob2222_2 | hahaa |
| 22:56:10 | rob2222_2 | online |
| 22:56:24 | rob2222_2 | hmm |
| 22:56:30 | rob2222_2 | :) |
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| 22:58:38 | rob2222_2 | I think I must install linux on my notebook, too.. |
| 22:59:07 | rob2222_2 | I only dont know how it is with the partitions. |
| 22:59:32 | rob2222_2 | can the winxp bootloader start linux? |
| 22:59:55 | Bagder | I doubt that |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:10 | Bagder | but the linux boot loaders can start windows |
| 23:01:45 | amiconn | Rob2222: It can, with a bit of manual work |
| 23:02:18 | rob2222_2 | IC, found a manual at google. |
| 23:02:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:06:36 | rob2222_2 | hmm, 5gb are a little to less i think |
| 23:07:20 | Bger | rob2222 just save the boot sector of the partition to C:\linux.bin ... |
| 23:07:36 | Bger | and add C:\linux.bin="linux bla bla" |
| 23:07:38 | Bger | to boot.ini |
| 23:09:12 | rob2222_2 | of the linux partition? |
| 23:09:19 | Bger | yep |
| 23:09:22 | rob2222_2 | i didnt have installed linux, yet |
| 23:09:42 | Bger | but imho it would be better to install the linux lilo/grub on the MBR |
| 23:09:50 | rob2222_2 | ive a primary and a secondary partition with 4 NTFS drives on the notebook |
| 23:10:18 | rob2222_2 | can i delete one NTFS drive in secondary partition and install linux there? |
| 23:10:27 | Bger | otherwise u'd have to update the linux.bin on every new kernel install |
| 23:10:48 | ender` | rob2222_2: sure |
| 23:10:51 | Bger | yep |
| 23:11:25 | rob2222_2 | i'm dont want to risk to kill my main windows installation. |
| 23:11:46 | rob2222_2 | hmm |
| 23:11:47 | ender` | unless you've got vital system components on the 2nd drive, you won't |
| 23:12:07 | rob2222_2 | i only mean the bootloader |
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| 23:20:12 | XavierGr | rob2222: that's why you should ghost your windows instalation once in a while. |
| 23:20:52 | muesli__ | re |
| 23:21:00 | XavierGr | I have ghosted my windows installation and once in a while, when something goes wrong (a lot of times this happens in windows) I just restore the ghosted partition and voila a new windows instalation. |
| 23:21:44 | rob2222_2 | hmm well ok |
| 23:21:48 | rob2222_2 | i can reinstall, too. |
| 23:22:14 | XavierGr | reinstall? no way. |
| 23:22:27 | XavierGr | installation takes 25 minutes |
| 23:22:35 | XavierGr | ghost restore takes 2-3 minutes |
| 23:22:42 | rob2222_2 | ok, now i delete one NTFS partition of my secondary partition and then start the linux install, right? |
| 23:23:00 | rob2222_2 | ghost needs 8gb ;) |
| 23:23:05 | rob2222_2 | nonon |
| 23:23:09 | rob2222_2 | o |
| 23:23:12 | XavierGr | plus you can capture an image with lots of programs on it (and you will save time from reinstalling various programs) |
| 23:24:07 | XavierGr | 8gb worths in order to avoid reinstalling on such an OS as windows. |
| 23:24:30 | rob2222_2 | well |
| 23:24:43 | rob2222_2 | ghost would be ok on a fresh windows install |
| 23:24:54 | rob2222_2 | this install is so old that it isnt worth gosting |
| 23:24:57 | rob2222_2 | :) |
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| 23:25:04 | XavierGr | that's a vaild point |
| 23:25:11 | XavierGr | next time you format consider ghost |
| 23:25:20 | rob2222_2 | will do for laptop |
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| 23:27:28 | rob2222_2 | hmmm.. are 5 gb enough?! |
| 23:27:47 | tomal | Is aegray here? |
| 23:27:55 | preglow | ahh |
| 23:27:57 | * | preglow slaps aegray |
| 23:28:00 | Bagder | Rob2222: if you go for a small linux installation |
| 23:28:14 | preglow | he was not too long ago, i told him to mail you |
| 23:28:57 | tomal | Yes, he mailed me, I thought that he is still here. |
| 23:29:14 | preglow | doesn't look good right now |
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| 23:29:24 | San | hey |
| 23:29:29 | San | I got the cygwin working |
| 23:29:32 | San | but it wont build |
| 23:29:40 | San | i type pwd |
| 23:29:41 | San | cd build |
| 23:29:44 | San | rbconf |
| 23:29:52 | San | then it says rbconf is not found |
| 23:29:55 | Bagder | *thump* |
| 23:30:01 | Bagder | don't use rbconf |
| 23:30:08 | preglow | ghargh |
| 23:30:11 | Bagder | or try to |
| 23:30:13 | preglow | ../tools/configure |
| 23:30:30 | preglow | of all things in this world to abstract |
| 23:30:33 | preglow | why configure :/ |
| 23:30:35 | San | lol |
| 23:30:36 | San | ok |
| 23:30:36 | Bagder | I thought I had removed that from the wiki page |
| 23:30:43 | San | i did try ./configure |
| 23:30:44 | San | :D |
| 23:31:09 | rob2222_2 | is gcc4 enough for arm? |
| 23:31:16 | preglow | rob2222_2: yes, we recommend that |
| 23:31:19 | rob2222_2 | or do i need gcc3.4.5 too? |
| 23:31:23 | rob2222_2 | ok |
| 23:31:24 | preglow | rob2222_2: gcc4 is all you need |
| 23:31:27 | rob2222_2 | thx |
| 23:31:31 | preglow | tomal: have you tried using gcc4 for ifp yet? |
| 23:31:38 | rob2222_2 | preglow, was that a notice? |
| 23:31:48 | tomal | preglow: No, I haven't. |
| 23:31:51 | preglow | rob2222_2: a notice for what? |
| 23:31:51 | rob2222_2 | ah no, its red cause my nick is in |
| 23:31:57 | preglow | haha |
| 23:31:58 | rob2222_2 | forget it |
| 23:32:01 | rob2222_2 | :) |
| 23:32:06 | preglow | tomal: do tell us when you get around to testing it |
| 23:32:19 | tomal | preglow: ok |
| 23:32:22 | preglow | the server build server gcc is gcc4 already, so we'd like to know if it doesn't work on ifp |
| 23:32:28 | preglow | i'd be surprised if it didn't, though |
| 23:32:50 | rob2222_2 | i just completed the m68k cross compiler and will compile now arm. do i have to recompile binutils for that? |
| 23:33:09 | San | how do I do a make? |
| 23:33:12 | tomal | preglow: I'll try it now |
| 23:33:23 | LinusN | Rob2222: yes |
| 23:33:32 | rob2222_2 | ok i thought that |
| 23:34:02 | rob2222_2 | how do you make that with the PATH variable when 2 crosscompilers are installed? |
| 23:34:13 | rob2222_2 | can be both in path? no i think. |
| 23:34:18 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:34:23 | rob2222_2 | can be? |
| 23:34:37 | LinusN | they are named m68k-elf-xxx and arm-elf-xxx |
| 23:34:45 | rob2222_2 | ah ok |
| 23:34:48 | rob2222_2 | good |
| 23:34:49 | rob2222_2 | thx |
| 23:34:49 | LinusN | so there is no conflict |
| 23:34:57 | San | anyone? How to make? |
| 23:35:01 | preglow | is there any consistent flag i can check for for debug builds? |
| 23:35:04 | LinusN | but you need to install them in separate directories |
| 23:35:12 | rob2222_2 | yes, ok |
| 23:35:12 | preglow | i'm tired of my crossfeed routine breaking debug builds |
| 23:35:13 | Bagder | San: type 'make' |
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| 23:35:24 | San | i did |
| 23:35:29 | San | nothing.. |
| 23:35:40 | San | i tryed in the build dir and the source dir |
| 23:35:41 | San | :\ |
| 23:35:48 | Bagder | San: was that in your build dir after you did ../tools/configure ? |
| 23:35:58 | San | yes |
| 23:36:07 | Bagder | and configure worked fine? |
| 23:36:11 | San | yep |
| 23:36:15 | LinusN | no error message when you type "make"? |
| 23:36:24 | San | yes |
| 23:36:47 | San | BASH: Make command not found |
| 23:36:56 | LinusN | you call that "nothing"? |
| 23:37:11 | San | yes |
| 23:37:14 | Bagder | I wonder what "command not found" could mean... |
| 23:37:21 | San | will, i ment nothing, as in nothing worked |
| 23:37:24 | San | yeah, me too... |
| 23:37:25 | Bagder | it *could* mean that the command was not found |
| 23:37:29 | San | i know |
| 23:37:43 | San | how do I fix it though? |
| 23:37:45 | Bagder | so did you install make? |
| 23:37:50 | LinusN | San: what installation instruction did you follow to install cygwin? |
| 23:38:00 | San | linuxStb |
| 23:38:04 | San | him |
| 23:38:24 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 23:38:35 | San | thanks Linus |
| 23:38:42 | preglow | what the hell? |
| 23:38:52 | preglow | logf truncates lines longer than the screen width, even when saving to a file? |
| 23:39:12 | Bagder | preglow: yes since it stores them so in mem |
| 23:39:45 | preglow | why not use a single array and just use the space you need for each line? |
| 23:40:02 | Bagder | feel free to fix |
| 23:40:14 | Bagder | I made it so to make it faster/easier to scroll in the buffer |
| 23:40:15 | preglow | don't feel up to recoding the viewer :> |
| 23:40:31 | preglow | we could just call the viewer plugin :-) |
| 23:40:38 | Bagder | for a saved one, yes |
| 23:41:34 | Bagder | iirc, you can extend the line lengths with no trouble in case you feel like doing a build with really long lines |
| 23:41:42 | preglow | nah |
| 23:41:54 | San | anyway to stop idiots inviting you to chanells? |
| 23:42:15 | Bagder | set yourself "invisible" |
| 23:42:22 | San | ty |
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| 23:44:03 | San | I am invisable |
| 23:44:13 | San | And I am still getting this crap |
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| 23:44:32 | thegeek | invincible or invisible? |
| 23:45:03 | thegeek | nevermind |
| 23:45:07 | [San] | Invisable |
| 23:45:10 | XavierGr | Strange I have never been invited to a channel.... |
| 23:45:22 | muesli__ | error accessing playlist control file |
| 23:45:24 | [San] | i just got invited like 50 times |
| 23:46:01 | muesli__ | somebody know the reason for that error on start? |
| 23:46:31 | Bagder | muesli__: yes, rockbox can't access the playlist control file ;-) |
| 23:46:39 | Bagder | which is located in the .rockbox dir |
| 23:46:44 | __peer__ | jello |
| 23:47:00 | __peer__ | anyone have 256mb player? |
| 23:47:01 | rob2222_2 | But I cant resize NTFS partitions with the SUSE installer, or? |
| 23:47:04 | muesli__ | Bagder ;-) never used a playlist ;) |
| 23:47:14 | preglow | Bagder: and \n doesn't split the lines or anything? |
| 23:47:27 | muesli__ | but i have ploblems enabling the dir cache also |
| 23:47:32 | muesli__ | do you see any connection? |
| 23:47:33 | Bagder | preglow: I don't think so... |
| 23:47:40 | muesli__ | used the bleeding edge |
| 23:48:54 | LinusN | muesli__: run scandisk |
| 23:48:56 | tomal | __peer__: What brand of player do you mean? iriver ifp? |
| 23:49:06 | muesli__ | LinusN everything is fine |
| 23:49:15 | muesli__ | am using 2 primary partitons |
| 23:49:32 | LinusN | muesli__: delete .rockbox/.playlist_control if there is one |
| 23:49:34 | muesli__ | ooh |
| 23:49:43 | muesli__ | dircache worx |
| 23:49:45 | XavierGr | does anyone know how to see how many row has someone used in a column in excel? |
| 23:50:47 | muesli__ | LinusN btw where are the settings saved? deleted everything concerning rockbox but my old settings were still there after re-installing |
| 23:51:09 | Bagder | it has a 6th sense! |
| 23:51:20 | LinusN | muesli__: in a sector on disk, after the partition table (sector 62) |
| 23:51:21 | | Quit Lynx_ (" bye") |
| 23:51:35 | muesli__ | so the 62nd sense ;) |
| 23:52:19 | [San] | where do all the freenode oppers hang out? |
| 23:52:32 | Bger | XavierGr ? |
| 23:53:02 | | Nick [San] is now known as Sanitarium (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) |
| 23:54:08 | preglow | bah |
| 23:54:13 | preglow | coef calculation is spot on correct |
| 23:54:45 | LinusN | Sanitarium: #freenode |
| 23:55:06 | Sanitarium | slasheri? |
| 23:55:19 | Sanitarium | is he/she here? |
| 23:55:47 | | Nick Sanitarium is now known as HadToChangeNick (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) |
| 23:56:08 | preglow | he |
| 23:56:12 | preglow | and ask and find out |
| 23:56:24 | * | preglow trout slasheri |
| 23:57:01 | Bagder | you need to bow humbly too |
| 23:57:53 | muesli__ | LinusN thank you, my problem disappeared :) |
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