00:01:13 | preglow | i actually think the scaling in flac is off by one bit now |
00:01:23 | preglow | i guess i should actually say i want 29 bits of precision |
00:01:30 | preglow | when i said 28 i meant fractional bits :-) |
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00:03:23 | preglow | Bagder: btw, when i add an .S file to the apps/SOURCES file, it never gets compiled standalone, but just gets in included in the final linker process |
00:03:28 | preglow | is this intentional behaviour? |
00:04:01 | Bagder | nope |
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00:04:54 | preglow | what the flaming hell |
00:04:56 | preglow | eq suddenly works |
00:05:27 | | Nick San is now known as [San] (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) |
00:06:09 | Bger | woot |
00:06:21 | muesli__ | :0 |
00:06:42 | Midgey34 | that's a nice surpirse |
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00:09:11 | preglow | for me too... |
00:09:21 | preglow | the only thing i did was change the output format of the flac plugin |
00:09:22 | preglow | gah |
00:10:21 | __peer__ | tomal: yea |
00:10:28 | preglow | but it works for other codecs as well now |
00:10:29 | __peer__ | tomal: or any other player, |
00:10:30 | preglow | god knows |
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00:12:36 | linuxstb | preglow: If you change FLAC to 29 bits, then don't forget ALAC and Shorten as well. |
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00:13:18 | preglow | linuxstb: sure |
00:13:19 | preglow | hahaha |
00:13:22 | preglow | i've got a sweeping eq |
00:13:26 | __peer__ | anyone have 256mb player? |
00:13:56 | tomal | __peer__: I have iriver ifp790 |
00:15:11 | __peer__ | tomal: coo come to #_peer_ then |
00:18:43 | Midgey34 | does anyone else have voice files crash the sim (win32) |
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00:23:39 | t0mas | tomal: I heard your name is Tomas without the H? |
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00:28:20 | aegray | tomal: ping |
00:28:52 | aegray | ah thanks |
00:28:55 | aegray | just checked my mail |
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00:40:16 | tomal | t0mas: I am back. My name actually is Tomasz. Without H, but with Z. |
00:41:16 | t0mas | ah ok |
00:41:33 | t0mas | I almost tought you were the first Tomas I would meet without a H ;) |
00:41:53 | t0mas | Tomasz is a common name in your country? |
00:42:05 | tomal | Yes, it is. |
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00:44:17 | Midgey34 | I went by the name tomas for a few years in elementary school if that counts for anything |
00:44:25 | t0mas | hm? |
00:44:29 | Midgey34 | I thought the h was stupid and pointless |
00:44:32 | t0mas | ah ok |
00:44:34 | t0mas | it is ;) |
00:44:46 | Midgey34 | which country are you from? |
00:44:58 | t0mas | The Netherlands |
00:45:36 | Midgey34 | ah, tomas is much less common here then. everyone is thomas |
00:46:08 | t0mas | The normal spelling here is Thomas |
00:46:17 | rob2222_2 | anybody here who can help me to make a linux partition? |
00:46:30 | t0mas | but my parents liked Tomas more... |
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00:46:55 | t0mas | rob2222_2: do you have your disk partitioned? |
00:47:04 | t0mas | or are you in some linux distro setup? |
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00:47:20 | sparXCG | hi everyone |
00:47:29 | t0mas | hi |
00:47:47 | rob2222_2 | i have 6gb free space in a extended partition andd i am in suse 10 setup atm |
00:48:02 | t0mas | ok, I don't know suse |
00:48:08 | t0mas | but what do you want to use the partition for? |
00:48:12 | t0mas | installing suse I assume? |
00:48:16 | rob2222_2 | yep |
00:48:24 | t0mas | then you need a primary partition |
00:48:27 | | Part tomal |
00:48:28 | t0mas | so outside the extended one |
00:48:34 | rob2222_2 | sure? |
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00:48:46 | t0mas | almost sure... |
00:48:55 | t0mas | at least it's the "normal" way of doing it |
00:49:11 | t0mas | I've never tested if it can boot from an extended partition... |
00:49:18 | rob2222_2 | well |
00:49:31 | rob2222_2 | the thing is i want do behold the WINXP bootloader |
00:49:35 | rob2222_2 | and read a tutorial |
00:49:36 | t0mas | why? |
00:49:48 | sparXCG | hmm |
00:49:59 | sparXCG | i just installed Fedora 4 lately |
00:49:59 | rob2222_2 | cause the linux bl will be overwritten at every windows installation |
00:50:19 | sparXCG | and the GRUB bootloader does a great job |
00:50:25 | t0mas | indeed |
00:50:35 | t0mas | I use gentoo with grub |
00:51:04 | sparXCG | about windoze rewriting the MBR i think slipping in the linux install CD can fix it |
00:51:09 | rob2222_2 | in the tutorial they say, i should install grub not at MBR, i should install grub at root partition of the linux system |
00:51:11 | sparXCG | and it should be rather painless |
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00:51:22 | sparXCG | hmm |
00:51:36 | sparXCG | you could install it at the "first sector of boot partition" |
00:51:49 | rob2222_2 | but i think i cant set that destination, cause the root doesnt exists, yet |
00:51:53 | sparXCG | thats what my fedora says |
00:52:04 | t0mas | rob2222_2: you can... |
00:52:10 | t0mas | it will overwrite the windows bootloader |
00:52:15 | sparXCG | but i installed it the usual way |
00:52:22 | t0mas | and later on in the setup you can add windows to the grub menu |
00:52:26 | sparXCG | and it works like a charm |
00:52:35 | sparXCG | yeah |
00:52:36 | * | preglow tests lowshelf filter... |
00:53:21 | rob2222_2 | if i set position of grub to /dev/hda10 i get "/dev/hda is not aviable |
00:53:25 | * | Moos crosses his fingers |
00:53:29 | muesli__ | heyho preglow |
00:53:33 | sparXCG | hmm |
00:53:43 | t0mas | rob2222_2: you should use partition magic to resize the extended partition |
00:53:44 | sparXCG | that's weird... |
00:53:54 | t0mas | then you have "real" empty space |
00:54:02 | t0mas | there you can create a linux ext3 partition |
00:54:06 | t0mas | and a linux swap |
00:54:13 | rob2222_2 | not reiser? |
00:54:24 | t0mas | your choise |
00:54:34 | t0mas | then ask grub to install to /dev/hda |
00:54:40 | rob2222_2 | i dont know the difference |
00:54:42 | t0mas | and it will install in the MBR (master boot record) |
00:55:02 | t0mas | ok, then use what SUSE sets as the default (I assume ext3, but again... I've never used SUSE) |
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00:55:19 | preglow | hooray! |
00:55:22 | t0mas | then watch carefully in the grub options to get windows into the list... |
00:55:28 | t0mas | or you won't be able to boot windows. |
00:55:34 | preglow | all eq filters suddenly bloody work |
00:55:40 | sparXCG | hmm? |
00:55:56 | sparXCG | o____O |
00:56:00 | rob2222_2 | what are the mount points for swap and root? |
00:56:06 | t0mas | (if you accidentally lose access to Windows you can get an XP cd.. and use the recovery console with the command "fixboot" and "fdisk /mbr" |
00:56:13 | t0mas | swap has no mountpoint |
00:56:16 | t0mas | root should be at / |
00:56:26 | Moos | preglow: Confratulations !!! |
00:56:27 | rob2222_2 | ok |
00:56:32 | t0mas | preglow: cool |
00:56:35 | Moos | *Congratulations |
00:56:56 | muesli__ | kewl :) |
00:57:04 | muesli__ | high Moos btw |
00:57:06 | sparXCG | wuts up? |
00:57:20 | Moos | Hello muesli! |
00:57:23 | t0mas | rob2222_2: I have to go now... if you get stuck somewhere... ask in #linux or better.. #suse |
00:57:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: "Suddenly" work? |
00:57:46 | rob2222_2 | ok |
00:57:49 | rob2222_2 | thx |
00:57:50 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: i had a ton of trouble with them the other day |
00:57:52 | preglow | today they worked |
00:58:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just, magically? |
00:58:09 | Moos | Hooray |
00:58:14 | t0mas | preglow: without changing anything? :) |
00:58:53 | preglow | i changed one number to a value i knew was right, but didn't work a couple of days ago |
00:58:57 | preglow | hahah |
00:59:08 | preglow | lowshelf at 100hz with 24db gain = clipping bonanza |
00:59:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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01:00:10 | sparXCG | is there any news on the gigabeat port? |
01:00:16 | sparXCG | or anything i could help with? |
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01:02:41 | BHSPitMonkey | buy some interested devs some gigabeats? :D |
01:04:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
01:05:08 | sparXCG | aww |
01:05:10 | sparXCG | XD |
01:05:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think right now only one person is working on it. |
01:05:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | But I think it's in a stage where that's kinda ideal anyway. |
01:06:04 | sparXCG | where what's ideal? |
01:06:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | But then, I haven't heard much about it in a little while, so I hardly have much knowledge. |
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01:07:19 | sparXCG | hmm... |
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01:08:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah well, I haven't heard anything about it in a while |
01:11:39 | jungti1234 | hi |
01:12:13 | muesli__ | hai jungti1234 |
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01:13:06 | San | slasheri here? |
01:13:19 | muesli__ | dont think so |
01:14:32 | San | kk |
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01:17:17 | preglow | what the _hell_ ? |
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01:18:03 | preglow | five eq bands and flac still runs with no boost |
01:18:32 | t0mas | have you tested that they're actually working? |
01:18:56 | preglow | they're working |
01:19:05 | preglow | sounds is seriously bugged up at least |
01:19:16 | t0mas | cool man... |
01:19:44 | jungti1234 | hi muesli__ |
01:19:45 | preglow | yes, they works |
01:19:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, flac is just *special?* |
01:19:52 | preglow | 128kbps mp3 does run with a little boost |
01:19:53 | jungti1234 | http://news.dreamwiz.com/origin/20060127/aving/cowon01.jpg |
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01:20:22 | jungti1234 | iAudio6 - 0.85" HDD player |
01:20:51 | muesli__ | ugly :D |
01:21:11 | jungti1234 | haha |
01:21:35 | preglow | well, flac is special |
01:21:38 | preglow | since it's the fastest codec we've got |
01:21:53 | Paprica | how can i do cvs diff for all the rockbox folder? |
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01:21:57 | jungti1234 | why? I looks like convenient its design. |
01:22:27 | muesli__ | looks like a toy |
01:22:48 | jungti1234 | um |
01:22:58 | jungti1234 | Then, ipod? |
01:23:04 | Paprica | [02:21:53] <Paprica> how can i do cvs diff for all the rockbox folder? |
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01:23:11 | preglow | ok, now just isn't funny |
01:23:29 | muesli__ | jungti1234 i keep my h330 :p |
01:23:32 | preglow | with ten eq bands, flac has a couple of percent boost |
01:23:44 | Paprica | no one know? |
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01:24:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Paprica: cvs diff > patch.diff in the rockbox folder |
01:24:15 | Paprica | 10q |
01:24:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Basically, from the same place you run "cvs update" |
01:24:25 | Paprica | k |
01:24:50 | jungti1234 | muesli__: hahaha Did you make it? |
01:25:18 | muesli__ | the eagle has landed :) |
01:25:48 | Bger | nite |
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01:25:58 | sparXCG | oh well |
01:26:00 | sparXCG | bb guys |
01:26:03 | sparXCG | and gals |
01:26:05 | jungti1234 | bye |
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01:26:15 | jungti1234 | muesli__: I don't know well English. :P |
01:26:38 | muesli__ | yes, i was successful ;) |
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01:27:01 | jungti1234 | hehe |
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01:27:51 | preglow | if these filters perform this well, performance wont be a problem |
01:29:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, when you turn on an equalizer you expect *some* performance hit anyway, right? |
01:29:56 | preglow | well sure |
01:30:01 | preglow | it's just that i was expecting quite a big one |
01:30:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gotcha |
01:30:59 | rob2222_2 | whats the difference when typing PATH=... OR export PATH=.... ? |
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01:31:46 | preglow | if you don't export, programs you run wont see the change |
01:32:19 | rob2222_2 | aha ok |
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01:32:32 | rob2222_2 | is the new path saved automatically? |
01:32:53 | rob2222_2 | so thats there after reboot |
01:32:55 | preglow | no |
01:33:06 | preglow | you need to set it in a startup script |
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01:33:19 | imphasing | One of you fellows in here wrote emuriver, right? |
01:33:59 | BHSPitLappy | imphasing: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcNicks |
01:34:18 | rob2222_2 | preglow, .profile? |
01:34:42 | preglow | imphasing: that's tomal's |
01:34:46 | imphasing | BHSPitLappy: Stop following me. |
01:34:47 | preglow | rob2222_2: yeah, should work |
01:34:58 | rob2222_2 | preglow, is another file better? |
01:35:09 | preglow | rob2222_2: depends on the shell you use |
01:35:11 | rob2222_2 | /more correct? |
01:35:20 | preglow | .bashrc and .bash_profile should work under bas |
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01:35:22 | preglow | h |
01:35:28 | BHSPitLappy | imphasing: you followed me, poon |
01:35:40 | imphasing | point. |
01:36:00 | linuxstb | rob2222_2: Maybe /etc/profile ? |
01:36:11 | rob2222_2 | i didnt even know the differece between gnome-termonal, console and x-terminal, yet |
01:36:20 | rob2222_2 | <= suse noob |
01:36:29 | rob2222_2 | <= linux noob |
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01:37:15 | BHSPitLappy | <= rockbox noob |
01:37:22 | preglow | <= n00b |
01:37:28 | BHSPitLappy | haha |
01:37:28 | rob2222_2 | /etc/profile is for all users at the machine, or? |
01:37:34 | preglow | rob2222_2: yea |
01:37:40 | BHSPitLappy | preglow <= samurai |
01:37:42 | rob2222_2 | ah ok |
01:38:01 | preglow | i'd suggest one of the .bashrc og .bash_profile |
01:39:09 | rob2222_2 | damn much IFs in /etc/profile ^^ |
01:39:38 | rob2222_2 | ok |
01:40:16 | imphasing | for (i=0; (c = linux_user) < total_users; ++i) {imphasing->linux_skills >= c} |
01:40:18 | imphasing | :( |
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01:40:49 | rob2222_2 | lol |
01:40:52 | rob2222_2 | ?1 |
01:41:09 | imphasing | It means my linux skills are greater than or equal to most people's |
01:41:10 | imphasing | :D |
01:41:30 | imphasing | I should put some exception code in there for the extreme cases of linux mastery.. |
01:41:38 | rob2222_2 | lol |
01:42:05 | preglow | it also means you're a pointer to a struct? |
01:42:09 | preglow | you're weird, man |
01:42:18 | rob2222_2 | lol |
01:42:21 | imphasing | yeah.. |
01:42:24 | imphasing | It's for speed dude. |
01:42:34 | imphasing | I'm not going to access myself directly |
01:42:48 | imphasing | Also, you'll note the loop doesn't -do- anything. |
01:43:13 | imphasing | I could put some bash(linux_user->novice); in there |
01:43:19 | imphasing | but I was feeling charitable. |
01:43:20 | imphasing | =/ |
01:43:25 | preglow | hahaha |
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01:46:06 | rob2222_2 | mount /dev/sda0 /media/floppy |
01:46:30 | rob2222_2 | can i write to /dev/sda0, too without mount it first? |
01:46:49 | preglow | if you trust your knowledge of filesystems enough... |
01:47:08 | preglow | that's what you do when you need to access a raw partition |
01:47:14 | preglow | you shouldn't need that |
01:47:14 | rob2222_2 | ah ok |
01:47:21 | rob2222_2 | so i need to mount |
01:47:22 | preglow | so mount things |
01:47:28 | rob2222_2 | ok |
01:48:08 | rob2222_2 | hmm |
01:48:22 | rob2222_2 | i think something got wrong during the installation |
01:49:34 | preglow | argh |
01:49:40 | rob2222_2 | what? |
01:49:52 | preglow | anyone remember the extra flag one should give to gcc in addition to -S that is supposed to give nicer output? |
01:50:01 | preglow | bagder mentioned it a day or two ago, but i can't find it in the logs... |
01:50:29 | rob2222_2 | hhuh, no dont know |
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01:52:11 | imphasing | -S works fine for me.. |
01:53:40 | preglow | yeah, but there's another one that's nice to put on as well |
01:54:38 | preglow | gcc really does make shit asm for m68k sometimes |
01:55:44 | preglow | like spilling stuff to stack when it doesn't need to |
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02:04:39 | preglow | i love this, the eq filters actually _are_ that fast |
02:05:19 | XavierGr | http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/01/27/rare.conditions/index.html?section=cnn_latest |
02:05:30 | XavierGr | creepy story, indeed |
02:06:00 | XavierGr | preglow when are you going to commit the code? |
02:10:01 | preglow | tomorrow |
02:10:07 | XavierGr | nie |
02:10:23 | XavierGr | ^nice, is there a guy assigned to make the GUI? |
02:10:44 | XavierGr | if not I will take the risk and see the code, after the weekend |
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02:12:35 | preglow | whoever wants to make the gui, can make the gui |
02:12:56 | XavierGr | well yes of course, I mean does anyone said that he might do it? |
02:13:09 | preglow | yeah, a couple |
02:13:12 | preglow | and linus had some ideas |
02:13:54 | preglow | problem is it'll be hard to make a good gui for the full parametric equaliser |
02:13:54 | XavierGr | hmm then I should let them do it... |
02:14:03 | preglow | if you have ideas, mention them |
02:14:04 | preglow | ARGH |
02:14:17 | preglow | now i have to reboot to make linux see my h120 again... |
02:14:31 | XavierGr | my main idea is, except the GUI, to have eq files |
02:14:38 | linuxstb | preglow: Try a different USB port. I have that problem occasionally. |
02:15:17 | preglow | linuxstb: no dice |
02:15:18 | XavierGr | another filetype recognizable by rockbox that will change the eq. Something like eq presets. |
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02:15:28 | linuxstb | preglow: Oh well. Works for me sometimes. |
02:15:46 | linuxstb | How is the eq sounding? |
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02:16:20 | preglow | sounds decent enough |
02:16:21 | linuxstb | (You could also try rmmod usb-storage) |
02:16:22 | preglow | like an eq |
02:16:22 | preglow | heh |
02:16:55 | preglow | i have only bad experiences with rmmod |
02:16:57 | preglow | but i'll try |
02:17:35 | linuxstb | Do a "sync" or two first.... |
02:17:39 | ashridah | preglow: as long as you don't remove the hci driver, thus rendering your keyboard inoperable (or something else similarly entertaining), it won't break anything |
02:17:53 | linuxstb | ashridah: In theory..... |
02:17:59 | ashridah | linuxstb: the driver won't let itself be removed if it's in use by the file system |
02:17:59 | jungti1234 | http://mp3.iaudio.com/product/product_i6_feature.php heh |
02:18:13 | preglow | yeah, went like it had to |
02:18:16 | preglow | rmmod is now stuck |
02:18:19 | preglow | and is impossible to kill |
02:18:30 | linuxstb | See you soon then... |
02:18:39 | ashridah | sounds like the drivers broken :) |
02:18:48 | preglow | it's not broken, it's just got bugs |
02:19:13 | preglow | when i'm a bit too quick with the inserting it hangs, sometimes |
02:19:31 | ashridah | preglow: are you sure the mp3 player isn't just pulling one of those "hi, i'm going to hand youi a crappy usb packet" to which the scsi layer goes "wtf?! reset!" mp3 playeR: "okay, back in 30-60 seconds then" efforts? |
02:20:16 | preglow | pretty sure |
02:20:35 | preglow | i've seen it before, and it always happens when i manage to insert usb cable when rockbox is in a screen that doesn't have an usb handler |
02:20:38 | preglow | then i exit the screen |
02:20:41 | preglow | think "shit!" |
02:20:45 | preglow | deplug the cable, the reinsert |
02:20:59 | preglow | then linux goes "ehehehehehehehe" |
02:21:04 | preglow | and never responds again |
02:21:08 | rob2222_2 | can suse suspend to disk? |
02:21:48 | preglow | brb |
02:22:45 | linuxstb | rob2222_2: I've never seen Linux do that. |
02:23:03 | rob2222_2 | really? ugh |
02:23:12 | linuxstb | And google says: http://www.suspend2.net/ |
02:26:21 | preglow | pft |
02:26:26 | preglow | i hate rebooting |
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02:26:32 | preglow | i usually have a zillion windows open |
02:26:36 | preglow | and now they need re-opening :/ |
02:26:55 | rob2222_2 | hehe |
02:26:58 | rob2222_2 | i know that |
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02:32:18 | rob2222_2 | is suse plug&play for USB/firewire drives or do i have to unmount before? |
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02:40:13 | preglow | bedtime |
02:40:50 | linuxstb | agreed. Goodnight. |
02:42:23 | rob2222_2 | good night |
02:47:35 | Paprica | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1417090&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
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02:50:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Paprica: So, when %al, clips at x1 and x2? |
02:51:13 | Paprica | yep |
02:52:12 | Paprica | and when the title biger than the screen it works with the others too |
02:53:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why have an x1 and x2? Why not from where %m is, for X pixels? |
02:55:11 | Paprica | mm i think that it more easy to set an x1 and x2 when you make a wps |
02:55:29 | Paprica | instead of try i all sec |
02:55:38 | Paprica | in |
02:55:39 | Paprica | * |
02:56:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm just curious. |
02:56:44 | Paprica | =] |
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05:12:50 | massiveH | hey, i've got a bug question with the H300 port |
05:13:09 | massiveH | when I press the "up" button, it sometimes is read as "left/back" |
05:13:44 | massiveH | in the Debug I/O ports, it reads the button press from 20-28, whereas the other buttons are read as only one value |
05:14:00 | massiveH | anyone else have this issue, or is this known about |
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06:24:35 | DrumRBoy320 | i have a WPS question... |
06:24:50 | DrumRBoy320 | can you display an image behind a status bar? |
06:25:41 | DrumRBoy320 | and if not, can you use an image as a status bar, meaning have a little but more image be revealed as time goes by, without multiple images |
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06:26:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | DrumRBoy320: Currently, no. |
06:26:47 | DrumRBoy320 | no for both questions, ok |
06:26:56 | DrumRBoy320 | thanks for the response :) |
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06:27:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | As far as I know, the only solution for revealing more image is to use multiple images. |
06:27:53 | DrumRBoy320 | ive been working on improving papricas ipod WPS, and i have all the images looking good, taken from an actual ipod f/w, but thats the only thing... the status bar is weird |
06:28:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | In what way? |
06:28:12 | DrumRBoy320 | thanks |
06:28:15 | DrumRBoy320 | oh |
06:28:18 | DrumRBoy320 | em |
06:28:57 | DrumRBoy320 | its just the way he had it set up was a transparency grid, so the text would kinda darken the image, since the text is black |
06:29:16 | DrumRBoy320 | i wanted it to be more ipod like, but i even tried a few dif things, nothing works |
06:29:34 | massiveH | anybody have an answer to my previous question about the H300's buttons? |
06:30:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | massiveH: I've never heard of anything like that before, but since I don't know the related code, all I can say is "I've never before seen someone mention that." |
06:30:38 | massiveH | great, I know it's not a hardware issue because it does not occur in the original firmware |
06:30:53 | DrumRBoy320 | i woulda been happy loading one cut up image in the front of the text and a regular image in the back, so you would see all one bar, but a black barwould move and bee seen in certain places... |
06:31:05 | massiveH | i'm just not sure if it has to do with the button handler code, and if it's not finished yet |
06:33:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | DrumRBoy320: Why do you need an image in front of, and behind, the text? |
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06:36:41 | DrumRBoy320 | it was just different ways i was trying to make it look good |
06:37:41 | DrumRBoy320 | i wanted to emulate an ipods status bar, which i know from modifying ipod f/w takes one big image and reveals more and more as time goes by |
06:41:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wait, do you mean the progress bar? |
06:46:06 | BHSPitLappy | well, we have the retailos pretty damn well cloned in ipodlinux :P |
06:49:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm surprised Apple hasn't complained about that. |
06:50:09 | BHSPitLappy | why? |
06:50:21 | BHSPitLappy | it's not like we can play music as well as in retailos |
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06:50:46 | BHSPitLappy | nor are we that well publicized to the public eye |
06:50:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but the interface, and especially the appearance of it, are their "intellectual propery" and Copyright Apple, and all that. So it's just... iffy. They probably could if they wanted to. |
06:51:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | It just seems like the kind of thing that happens these days. |
06:51:42 | BHSPitLappy | well... measures are taken to stay within bounds |
06:52:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but looking at the theme in podzilla2, visually it's the same as the Nano's |
06:52:14 | BHSPitLappy | could windows or apple shut down a linux wm that looked like windows/osx? |
06:52:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | If the art was identical, or very very close, they could at least pursue it. |
06:52:48 | BHSPitLappy | just from matching up colors and gradients, etc |
06:53:05 | BHSPitLappy | there had been such things, and they're powerless to do anything about it... |
06:53:25 | BHSPitLappy | just the fact that it's even a consideration is a sign of how effed up things are |
06:55:43 | * | Paul_The_Nerd shrugs |
06:55:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just saying. No means a guarantee, but when you *are* trying to clone their interface... |
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07:04:59 | BHSPitLappy | not clone, just familiarize... |
07:05:09 | BHSPitLappy | hence the scheme name 'Familiar' |
07:06:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
07:09:11 | DrumRBoy320 | how IPL/RB coming on the 5g? |
07:09:22 | midkay | i second that. |
07:10:02 | BHSPitLappy | rb = <checkmark> |
07:10:09 | BHSPitLappy | iPL = ":(" |
07:10:33 | DrumRBoy320 | whats holdin IPL back? you;d think they'd be further than RB |
07:10:35 | midkay | haha |
07:10:55 | BHSPitLappy | it's podzilla really |
07:11:18 | BHSPitLappy | shrivels up and dies on the 5g |
07:11:22 | DrumRBoy320 | ah, so IPL works except for podzilla |
07:11:32 | BHSPitLappy | bear in mind neither have sound |
07:11:37 | DrumRBoy320 | i know |
07:11:48 | DrumRBoy320 | il play doom -sound, i dont mind |
07:11:51 | BHSPitLappy | and both have a case of the slows when it comes to the lcd |
07:11:56 | BHSPitLappy | so no doom there |
07:11:59 | DrumRBoy320 | ah |
07:12:09 | DrumRBoy320 | weird since the screen will do 30 FPs |
07:12:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Lack of drivers for the Broadcom chip, right? |
07:12:18 | BHSPitLappy | yeah |
07:12:23 | BHSPitLappy | a matter of REing |
07:12:35 | DrumRBoy320 | well, eventually... i guess... i hope... right? |
07:12:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maaaaybe |
07:12:45 | DrumRBoy320 | lol |
07:12:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | :-P |
07:12:48 | DrumRBoy320 | thats all i need |
07:12:51 | DrumRBoy320 | alright |
07:12:54 | DrumRBoy320 | night guys |
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07:14:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | So... this Kate person is switching back to iRiver stock firmware because the volume is displayed in dB? |
07:14:35 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is just floored. |
07:19:21 | midkay | hahahaha |
07:20:39 | BHSPitLappy | haha |
07:20:55 | BHSPitLappy | they'll be returning a lot of home theater equipment someday |
07:21:27 | BHSPitLappy | "this damn thing is screwed up! it shows negative numbers, but it's loud as hell!" |
07:30:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | It baffles me. |
07:30:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | "Not visually intuitive." |
07:31:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I kinda think the graphical representation is exceptionally visually intuitive, and it's nice that the numerical one is actually *useful* |
07:32:08 | BHSPitLappy | don't get worked up over it |
07:32:13 | BHSPitLappy | let the dumb be dumb |
07:32:40 | BHSPitLappy | we probably *won't* run out of oxygen... right? |
07:39:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | You never know! |
07:39:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | And, and, what if there aren't enough Bits in the Internet! |
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08:09:07 | BHSPitLappy | mmhmm |
08:10:04 | andrewmel | i am wondering if anybody is trying to allow us to use font tags on the iriver wps to allow the use of multiple fonts? |
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10:14:14 | BHSPitMonkey | indeed |
10:14:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mornin' |
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11:19:46 | Paprica | how can i edit the summary of patch on SF? |
11:23:50 | Bger | no idea... |
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11:25:17 | linuxstb | amiconn: I'm around now. |
11:27:17 | Paprica | linuxstb, http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1417090&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
11:27:23 | Paprica | here is the margin patch |
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11:31:05 | amiconn | linuxstb: I found that alac.c uses its own swap macros, together with #ifdef endian checks |
11:31:28 | amiconn | Shouldn't it use betoh16() / betoh32() instead? |
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11:32:16 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: My first comment (without looking at the patch) is that you need to make it compile cleanly on all targets. What's the problem with Archos? |
11:32:37 | Paprica | i cant compile archos |
11:32:44 | linuxstb_ | You can compile the uisimulator. |
11:32:46 | Paprica | somthing wrong with the sygwin |
11:32:50 | Paprica | c |
11:32:55 | Paprica | cygwin |
11:33:37 | linuxstb_ | Have you tried an Archos simulator? |
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11:36:46 | Paprica | linuxstb, the cygwin dont want to start the compile of archos simulator |
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11:44:14 | linuxstb | Paprica: Can you compile the other simulators? |
11:44:22 | Paprica | yep |
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11:44:47 | linuxstb | So what error does cygwin give when trying the Archos sim? |
11:45:09 | linuxstb | (and which target number have you chosen?) |
11:47:40 | Paprica | http://pastebin.com/527070 |
11:47:50 | Paprica | and target 4 |
11:48:19 | LinusN | Paprica: how did you install cygwin? |
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11:48:41 | Paprica | mm |
11:48:55 | Paprica | like write in rockbox site |
11:48:58 | amiconn | §"$%! |
11:49:32 | linuxstb | Paprica: Are you using the devkit? |
11:49:38 | Paprica | yep |
11:49:49 | LinusN | this shouldn't happen with the devkit either |
11:49:55 | * | amiconn is obviously too dumb for linux :( |
11:50:12 | Paprica | =\ |
11:50:24 | linuxstb | LinusN: I think other people have reported it - the "limits.h" file is missing. |
11:50:28 | LinusN | Paprica: i suggest you install cygwin the official way |
11:50:44 | Paprica | i install cygwin to |
11:50:46 | Paprica | o |
11:50:50 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
11:50:59 | Paprica | im trying to compile from there now |
11:51:46 | Paprica | same problem |
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11:58:23 | linuxstb | Paprica: You can probably temporarily fix the problem by editing tools/configure to remove "uclpack" from line 458. |
11:59:14 | linuxstb | But it looks like something's wrong with your cygwin installation - if I was you, I would delete both the devkit and cygwin, and re-install cygwin using the instructions that LinusN pointed to. |
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12:00:02 | muesli__ | g'mornin |
12:00:40 | Paprica | mmi will do it |
12:00:45 | Paprica | morning |
12:01:00 | Paprica | ok now it compile |
12:02:51 | Paprica | ok |
12:02:58 | Paprica | compile without any problem |
12:03:03 | linuxstb | I don't know the gui code very well at all, so I've no idea if that patch is suitable for CVS. But I think it would be clearer if you called x1margin leftmargin and x2margin rightmargin. Also, the default value for rightmargin should be 0, not LCD_WIDTH. i.e. it is the size of the margin. |
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12:04:12 | linuxstb | Do those margins apply to all text, or just scrolling text? |
12:04:17 | Paprica | mm all what i change to x2margin was LCD_WIDTH |
12:04:53 | Paprica | mm all text |
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12:23:49 | Rob2222_ | waaaah. at every 2nd click in suse i have to enter my root password. |
12:23:53 | Rob2222_ | thats stress |
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12:24:14 | muesli__ | roots..bloody roots |
12:24:15 | muesli__ | ;) |
12:24:20 | * | amiconn is unable to install gnome :( |
12:24:50 | amiconn | Unsolvable dependency... |
12:25:01 | linuxstb | Is that Debian? |
12:25:05 | amiconn | yes |
12:25:17 | LinusN | Paprica: regarding your margin patch: |
12:25:19 | linuxstb | testing or unstable? |
12:25:20 | Slasheri | hehe, try apt-get install kde ;) |
12:25:21 | amiconn | gnome requires libvte4, and libvte4 requires libvte-common, version 1:0.11.15-4 |
12:25:35 | Rob2222 | cant i give my main user in suse root rights? |
12:25:36 | amiconn | ...but there is only libvte-common, version 1:0.11.16-1 |
12:25:44 | Paprica | ok.. |
12:25:49 | LinusN | - call them leftmargin/rightmargin instead of x1margin and x2margin |
12:25:51 | amiconn | Slasheri: I'll stay far far away from kde |
12:26:03 | Paprica | ok |
12:26:04 | linuxstb | Rob2222: No, there is only one root. But you can give your user access to (e.g.) certain devices if that's what you want. |
12:26:13 | LinusN | - decide if it's supposed to be "rightmargin" or "width" |
12:26:15 | Slasheri | :) and i will stay far away from gnome, i just don't like it |
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12:26:29 | amiconn | linuxstb: unstable. Testing installs fine, but freezes completely as soon as I try to log in to gnome |
12:26:38 | amiconn | ...or try to configure gdm |
12:26:42 | Rob2222 | hmm |
12:26:45 | LinusN | - consider doing it fully and add topmargin/bottommargin as well |
12:26:50 | LinusN | (optional) |
12:27:11 | linuxstb | Does it give a reason for the dependency failure? i.e. is there a conflict, or is one of the packages missing? |
12:27:34 | LinusN | - for the wps, it would be nicer to have the margins per line, i wonder how hard that would be... |
12:27:36 | amiconn | Yes, the version of libvte-common required by libvte4 is not available |
12:28:01 | linuxstb | You could try a different debian mirror. I've had problems with some mirrors in the past. |
12:28:22 | amiconn | Hmm. How do I change the mirror from commandline? |
12:28:37 | linuxstb | I'm currently using http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ |
12:28:48 | linuxstb | vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
12:29:00 | linuxstb | And then do apt-get update |
12:29:32 | amiconn | Hmm. I used ftp.de.debian.org so far. Worked fine for x86 |
12:29:33 | Paprica | LinusN, you mean that if you want 3 lines in the wps with the same margin you need to wirte the %m|... 3 times? |
12:29:34 | Rob2222 | im unable to get that f... fax running waaah |
12:29:44 | linuxstb | Obvious question, you've run apt-get update recently? |
12:29:46 | LinusN | Paprica: yes |
12:29:51 | Slasheri | and be sure there is only unstable in the mirror list.. |
12:29:55 | Paprica | ok |
12:29:58 | Paprica | and about this |
12:29:59 | Paprica | [13:26:46] <LinusN> - consider doing it fully and add topmargin/bottommargin as well |
12:29:59 | Paprica | [13:26:51] <LinusN> (optional) |
12:30:14 | Paprica | didnt understand it |
12:30:15 | LinusN | with the current patch, you can only set a global margin, right? |
12:30:22 | Paprica | no |
12:30:35 | Paprica | you can set per line |
12:30:44 | LinusN | Paprica: i meant lcd_setmargins(left, right, top, bottom) |
12:30:54 | LinusN | ah, yes, now i see |
12:31:05 | LinusN | but does that work for scrolling lines? |
12:31:25 | Paprica | this is purpose from the begining |
12:31:26 | Paprica | =] |
12:31:35 | Paprica | the purpose* |
12:32:15 | LinusN | ah, i was blind, sorry |
12:32:29 | Paprica | and what the bottom in the setmargins will do? |
12:32:57 | Paprica | its not dependent on the y only? |
12:33:08 | Paprica | (the y pos of the text) |
12:33:08 | LinusN | it would allow us to define a "window" to draw in, to allow x/y scrolling in a splash() |
12:33:22 | LinusN | but let's do that later |
12:33:27 | Paprica | ok |
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12:33:33 | LinusN | i don't want to burden you with that |
12:33:39 | Paprica | hihi |
12:33:48 | LinusN | i like this patch |
12:34:20 | Paprica | =] |
12:34:25 | amiconn | linuxstb: http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/ doesn't seem to provide amd64 |
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12:34:41 | LinusN | best of all is that it allows scrolling text in a splash, paving the way for nice-looking popup menus |
12:34:56 | LinusN | i've been wanting that for years :-) |
12:35:18 | linuxstb | amiconn: Ah, OK. I'm still in x86 land. |
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12:35:24 | Paprica | hihi :] |
12:35:46 | needleboy | helloooo |
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12:35:55 | Paprica | hi needleboy |
12:36:09 | JdGordon | hey needleboy, how often do u do the h300 optimized builds? |
12:36:10 | rob2222_ | Neither fax.allow nor fax.deny exist, |
12:36:10 | rob2222_ | so only 'root' may use the fax service. Sorry. |
12:36:10 | rob2222_ | can't create new job directory, give up |
12:36:17 | rob2222_ | *help* |
12:36:23 | needleboy | usually once a day |
12:36:27 | rob2222_ | im trying to send a fax in suse 10 |
12:36:33 | needleboy | yesterday was missed |
12:36:50 | muesli__ | shame on you ;) |
12:36:56 | rob2222_ | what am I doing wrong? |
12:37:18 | needleboy | LinusN: what's up? |
12:37:30 | needleboy | i'll bother you again, if you don't mind :) |
12:38:07 | moda | dont suppose anyone knows how bf2 does serial checks? |
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12:39:35 | linuxstb | rob2222_: I think you'll have to search the SuSE documentation. It's perfectly normal for regular users to have limited (or no) access to the hardware. |
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12:39:45 | needleboy | sorry... |
12:40:22 | rob2222_ | hmm :( |
12:40:27 | needleboy | LinusN: i get this while patching in your 24bit support: |
12:40:30 | needleboy | Hunk #3 FAILED at 432. |
12:40:30 | needleboy | 3 out of 3 hunks FAILED −− saving rejects to file apps/plugin.h.rej |
12:40:51 | LinusN | i'll have a look |
12:40:59 | needleboy | here's the rej file: http://paulgeluid.nl/apps/rockbox/plugins.h.rej |
12:41:02 | needleboy | thanks man |
12:41:33 | JdGordon | any reason the coloour patch isnt going into the main code? |
12:41:36 | LinusN | hmm, maybe i should commit it instead |
12:41:46 | Paprica | yep |
12:41:49 | Paprica | commit it |
12:41:50 | Paprica | =] |
12:41:56 | needleboy | yeah... |
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12:45:05 | linuxstb | Is there a problem with http://www.rockbox.org ? |
12:45:16 | Paprica | yep |
12:45:18 | Paprica | mm |
12:45:20 | Paprica | for me 2 |
12:45:22 | amiconn | linuxstb: Is it possible to set multiple distributions as source |
12:45:29 | amiconn | ..i.e. both unstable and testing? |
12:45:52 | gromit` | yes |
12:45:59 | linuxstb | I think so, but I've never done it. I think you can set priorities for different apt repositories though. |
12:46:00 | gromit` | (hello) |
12:46:13 | gromit` | man /etc/apt/preferences maybe |
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12:46:20 | gromit` | just can't remember |
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12:47:16 | needleboy | LinusN: are you commiting? |
12:47:17 | linuxstb | Paprica: rockbox.org is back again now.... |
12:47:27 | Paprica | ok `] |
12:47:28 | needleboy | and that's not a wedding proposal... |
12:47:30 | Paprica | =] |
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12:49:13 | Jungti1234 | needleboy? |
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12:49:20 | chise | -_-; |
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12:50:11 | linuxstb | (Re-asking a question from a few days ago) Do I understand correctly that with I2S, if the sending and receiving devices are configured to use different word lengths, then it's not a problem - the receiving device will compensate by either padding the samples with zero, or truncating? |
12:50:11 | needleboy | ? |
12:51:18 | Jungti1234 | needleboy: Don't you answer in my private message? |
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12:54:23 | needleboy | Jungti1234: i can't PM for some reason |
12:54:29 | needleboy | talk here |
12:54:38 | Jungti1234 | ok |
12:54:58 | Paprica | needleboy, register |
12:55:08 | Paprica | /ns help register |
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12:57:38 | needleboy | thanks ben |
12:58:06 | Paprica | welcome |
12:59:53 | needleboy | i'm checking the scrolling now |
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13:02:22 | JdGordon | needleboy: is there a colour jpoeg viewer for the h300? |
13:02:39 | moda` | nope |
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13:03:04 | needleboy | not yet |
13:03:08 | JdGordon | :( bugger |
13:03:11 | needleboy | we have the h100 |
13:03:17 | needleboy | someone needs to port it |
13:04:33 | needleboy | ben, amazing work |
13:04:43 | needleboy | that's the smoothest mother i've ever seen |
13:05:01 | LinusN | linuxstb: i don't really know, but i think it's up to the receiver |
13:05:29 | Paprica | [13:27:35] <LinusN> - for the wps, it would be nicer to have the margins per line, i wonder how hard that would be... |
13:05:45 | Paprica | is it still importent? |
13:05:55 | needleboy | i don't see the need |
13:06:00 | needleboy | pixel is better |
13:06:03 | needleboy | for me at least |
13:06:07 | LinusN | Paprica: i guess your margin tag sets the margin up to the next margin tag? |
13:06:09 | amiconn | I don't think margins per line make sense |
13:06:27 | needleboy | oh... |
13:06:29 | Paprica | you right |
13:06:30 | needleboy | ok, got it now |
13:06:38 | LinusN | Paprica: that's better i think |
13:07:01 | amiconn | Imho the scroll thread should store whatever margin was set when the scrolling line was created as attributes of that scrolling line |
13:07:02 | Paprica | so leave it like this? |
13:07:12 | LinusN | yes |
13:07:14 | Paprica | ok |
13:07:16 | amiconn | (together with future colour settings, font size etc) |
13:08:31 | linuxstb | Has the WPS patch to set fg/bg colour been committed to CVS? Was that needleboy's ? |
13:08:57 | LinusN | linuxstb: no |
13:08:59 | Paprica | no it doesnt commit |
13:09:30 | amiconn | w00t |
13:09:37 | amiconn | Finally, gnome |
13:09:43 | LinusN | wee |
13:10:07 | Jungti1234 | needleboy! understand? |
13:11:20 | needleboy | the FG/BG patch is Paprica's and Pi's |
13:11:35 | Paprica | nono this |
13:11:40 | Paprica | he mean to the tag |
13:11:42 | Paprica | in the WPS |
13:11:49 | Paprica | (i think) |
13:11:52 | needleboy | what tag? |
13:12:00 | needleboy | is there a color tag for the wps? |
13:12:06 | Paprica | yep |
13:13:09 | LinusN | color bmp support committed |
13:13:17 | LinusN | the fun part is that it works for h100 too |
13:13:39 | LinusN | so we can have 4-color images in wps |
13:13:46 | Paprica | lol |
13:13:50 | needleboy | haha |
13:13:51 | Paprica | mm |
13:13:56 | Paprica | this is the color patch |
13:13:56 | Paprica | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1380389&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
13:13:59 | Bagder | that's nice |
13:14:04 | Bagder | the h1x0 users will like it |
13:14:23 | needleboy | oh |
13:14:25 | LinusN | i'll have to fix the transparency as well |
13:14:38 | needleboy | paprica, that patch isn't in use for the past week or so |
13:15:30 | needleboy | linusn: you have the patch for it? |
13:15:44 | LinusN | in my head, it's not *that* dofficult |
13:15:50 | needleboy | lol |
13:15:52 | needleboy | sorry |
13:15:57 | Jungti1234 | needleboy |
13:16:06 | Jungti1234 | I removed contents about Optimized build in lang file. |
13:16:15 | LinusN | the hard part is to decide if i want to make two lcd_bitmap() functions or not |
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13:17:59 | needleboy | which means what? :) |
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13:28:22 | Paprica | LinusN, just update the patch |
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13:40:19 | Jungti1234 | needleboy? |
13:43:45 | Jungti1234 | Paprica, are you there? |
13:47:49 | amiconn | Gah, lots of *nice* warnings when trying to build anything rockbox on amd64 |
13:48:28 | amiconn | Sim build errors on bitmaps |
13:50:56 | Slasheri | hmm, it seems now wps exits and audio stops immediately when i press and hold stop :( |
13:51:07 | needleboy | i had that too |
13:52:52 | needleboy | it seems like the player freezes |
13:53:16 | Slasheri | if your player freezes, i just fixed that bug in the latest bleeding edge |
13:55:16 | LinusN | amiconn: which sim? |
13:55:17 | Slasheri | ah, it seems amiconn has changed that behaviour.. :/ |
13:55:18 | Slasheri | |-#define WPS_EXIT (BUTTON_OFF | BUTTON_REL) |
13:55:19 | Slasheri | |-#define WPS_EXIT_PRE BUTTON_OFF |
13:55:19 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Slasheri |
13:55:19 | Slasheri | |+#define WPS_EXIT BUTTON_OFF |
13:55:32 | Slasheri | why that? |
13:55:59 | needleboy | ok, thanks |
13:56:29 | needleboy | CVS is already updated right? |
13:57:14 | needleboy | LinusN: are you commiting the transparency patch? |
13:57:22 | LinusN | not yet |
13:57:28 | needleboy | ok |
13:57:36 | LinusN | i'm busy with Paid Work (tm) |
13:57:43 | needleboy | lol |
13:57:51 | needleboy | on a saturday... what a shame |
13:57:59 | LinusN | yeah |
13:58:25 | muesli__ | Slasheri read my query? |
13:58:54 | Slasheri | muesli__: yes, good you got it working :) |
13:58:55 | amiconn | LinusN: recorder |
13:59:17 | muesli__ | Slasheri dunno how i did but it works again ;) |
13:59:59 | linuxstb | amiconn: Are these errors related to bmp2rb? |
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14:00:09 | LinusN | amiconn: what is the error? int problems? |
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14:01:17 | amiconn | MAKE in bitmaps/native |
14:01:20 | amiconn | BMP2RB rockboxlogo.112x37x1.bmp |
14:01:23 | amiconn | make[3]: *** [/home/jens/rb-patched/simulator-build/x11-recorder/apps/bitmaps/native/rockboxlogo.112x37x1.c] Error 1 |
14:01:56 | amiconn | The fun thing is that rockboxlogo.112x37x1.c just contains one line: |
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14:02:08 | amiconn | error - unsupported compression 2 |
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14:02:28 | LinusN | haha, the bmp file is compressed? |
14:02:31 | Slasheri | San: hi |
14:02:35 | amiconn | It seems bmp2rb isn't adjusted to 64bit, and even fails to read the bmp header correctly |
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14:02:55 | LinusN | ah, i bet the bmp struct is misaligned |
14:02:59 | amiconn | yes |
14:03:22 | LinusN | so plain int is 64-bit? |
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14:03:41 | amiconn | no |
14:03:53 | amiconn | afaik, int is 32 bit on amd64, but long is 64 bit |
14:04:12 | amiconn | It seems we need some int type magic for the tools as well |
14:05:16 | linuxstb | We could just int32_t etc |
14:05:29 | amiconn | Are these defined for the tools? |
14:05:45 | linuxstb | They should be in <stdint.h> |
14:06:19 | moda` | whats been happening |
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14:06:56 | amiconn | Apart from this problem, I get numerous nice warnings like "warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size" |
14:07:01 | amiconn | ...and vice versa |
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14:07:20 | amiconn | ...both in tools/ and in rockbox itself |
14:07:53 | linuxstb | pointers are 64-bit? |
14:07:59 | amiconn | Think so |
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14:08:42 | linuxstb | Seems reasonable that pointer and long are the same size - that would work everywhere. |
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14:09:55 | * | linuxstb bets that the devkit is missing stdint.h |
14:11:04 | LinusN | funny, it seems uint32_t is missing in the C99 standard (!) |
14:11:13 | LinusN | http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/stdint.h.html |
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14:11:35 | amiconn | Somehow my linux install is missing stdio.h and some other headers - can't build gcc because of that :( |
14:11:44 | amiconn | s/gcc/cross-gcc/ |
14:12:08 | LinusN | amiconn: isn't that the usual problem with newlib etc? |
14:12:08 | ashridah | get libc6-dev |
14:12:09 | Paprica | Jungti1234? |
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14:12:50 | Jungti1234 | yeah? |
14:12:53 | amiconn | LinusN: Hmm, maybe it is |
14:13:01 | amiconn | I tried building sh-elf-gcc ... |
14:13:58 | moda` | do we have bmp masking? |
14:14:07 | linuxstb | moda`: No. |
14:14:26 | moda` | hrmk |
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14:20:36 | NightCat | "Color BMP support" - supports transparency? |
14:20:55 | LinusN | not yet |
14:21:05 | NightCat | Ok. |
14:21:21 | NightCat | But it's good anyway :) |
14:22:33 | amiconn | LinusN: I think we do want 2 lcd_bitmap functions. Unmasked drawing is way faster than masked |
14:22:38 | NightCat | And what about text color, it's fixed yet (I mean can't change in wps)? |
14:22:52 | amiconn | (it's just a sequence of memcpy() ) |
14:22:55 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, me too |
14:23:26 | LinusN | how about a FORMAT_TRANSPARENT flag to bmp_read_file? |
14:23:30 | amiconn | And, chances are low you'll ever want to draw a masked bitmap unmasked |
14:23:37 | amiconn | ...except you love pink ;) |
14:23:48 | moda` | oh, btw, i fixed the wps thing i was having trouble with |
14:23:59 | LinusN | moda`: cool, can i see it? |
14:24:15 | NightCat | Yes, and I :) |
14:24:18 | moda` | not finished yet |
14:24:23 | NightCat | Ok. |
14:24:46 | moda` | the switch that i had to trigger the background was making all the images flash, so i just moved it up the top and it fixed it |
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14:24:49 | NightCat | (I just trying to understand, what the problem was ;) ) |
14:25:10 | ]RowaN[ | "Don't use crossfader mix mode when skipping tracks manually" .. nooo another great feature removed |
14:25:20 | amiconn | LinusN: Hmm, when loading a masked bmp, the loader will have to create 2 bitmaps |
14:25:22 | NightCat | Oh, now I understand :) |
14:25:31 | amiconn | How do you think this could be handled? |
14:26:39 | NightCat | ]RowaN[: Yes... |
14:27:54 | LinusN | amiconn: yes |
14:28:10 | NightCat | LinusN: I know, "...we DO NOT estimate ... dates..." but how do you think, will the transparency be ready in a couple of days? ;) |
14:28:20 | LinusN | yes |
14:28:33 | ]RowaN[ | i cant understand people who prefer a song to abruptly end.. rather than spend 1 second fading down.. its just easier on the ears |
14:28:34 | NightCat | LinusN: Ok. |
14:29:03 | NightCat | ]RowaN[: Agree... |
14:29:04 | LinusN | amiconn: bmp_read_file() fills in the bitmap struct, which could contain two pointers |
14:29:20 | LinusN | and it returns the total size of both bitmaps |
14:29:25 | LinusN | bow about that? |
14:29:35 | LinusN | how |
14:30:16 | NightCat | gotta go... CU :) |
14:30:16 | ]RowaN[ | i mean the next song doesnt even have to be delayed in starting.. the old one could fade over the top of it starting (thats how i have it now with an old build). That way your eardrums dont go from 60 to 0 to 60 in the space of 1 second |
14:30:20 | * | ]RowaN[ high fives NightCat =] |
14:30:27 | Slasheri | ]RowaN[: eh, mix mode causes songs to cut very abruptly when skipping manually.. i don't think any user wants that behaviour.. |
14:30:45 | Slasheri | so that mix mode is only useful when track is changed "naturally" |
14:30:51 | ]RowaN[ | erm no, an ubrupt cut is when NO mix is done surely |
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14:31:39 | ]RowaN[ | correct me if i've gone mad |
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14:33:02 | ]RowaN[ | by mix we're talking about crossfade right? |
14:33:03 | Slasheri | ]RowaN[: no, mix mode on the track out fader causes a direct cut and crossfade mode fades out the current track |
14:33:13 | amiconn | LinusN: Sounds reasonable. Iiuc, one pointer would point to the native bitmap, and another would point to the mono bitmap |
14:33:19 | LinusN | exactly |
14:33:32 | amiconn | When loading without transparency, only one of these would be set |
14:33:34 | Slasheri | yes, but mix mode on the fade out style |
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14:33:40 | LinusN | now it pays off to introduce that bitmap struct :-) |
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14:34:02 | ]RowaN[ | oh so it was a redundant setting or something |
14:34:39 | muesli__ | ]RowaN[ i am with you |
14:34:45 | muesli__ | dunno why it was removed |
14:35:07 | ]RowaN[ | no muesli mix isnt crossfade |
14:35:11 | Slasheri | ]RowaN[: than means that when user manually skips a track, crossfader always does crossfading. But when track is changed naturally at the end, the crossfader can use the mix mode also if that is enabled by user |
14:35:25 | Slasheri | *that |
14:35:34 | ]RowaN[ | <- sk00led |
14:36:19 | ]RowaN[ | next rant.. bring back auto bass to prevent cliipping (as an option)!! =p |
14:36:39 | ]RowaN[ | honk if you love cookies |
14:36:51 | linuxstb | Would it be a sensible optimisation for the bitmap loader to check the bitmap for the transparency colour, and only create a mask bitmap if there actually is some transparency? |
14:37:27 | LinusN | linuxstb: perhaps |
14:38:01 | LinusN | but only if the FORMAT_TRANSPARENT flag is set |
14:38:20 | linuxstb | Yes. |
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14:38:52 | LinusN | i'll do this for now: add FORMAT_TRANSPARENT to the bitmap loader, which does nothing with it for now |
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14:39:15 | LinusN | and add a lcd_bitmap_transparent() function |
14:39:23 | amiconn_ | Hello from linux :) |
14:40:03 | LinusN | amiconn: welcome to a better world |
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14:46:09 | Jungti1234 | needleboy! |
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14:46:56 | moda` | hehe: %xl|a|Ze.bmp %xl|b|moda.bmp %noob<%xda|%xdb> where %noob<noob|notnoob> |
14:48:15 | Jungti1234 | hi moda` |
14:48:43 | Jungti1234 | look at this: http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.de/patch.avi |
14:49:24 | LinusN | what's with the uclpack patch on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RomBox? |
14:49:49 | LinusN | isn't that redundant nowadays? |
14:50:00 | Bagder | it is |
14:50:04 | amiconn | yes |
14:50:19 | amiconn | as is the binary |
14:50:54 | Jungti1234 | hmm Paprica |
14:51:08 | Jungti1234 | I have more question... |
14:51:16 | Paprica | Jungti1234? |
14:51:47 | linuxstb | Jungti1234: Nice wps. |
14:51:58 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
14:52:07 | Paprica | lol |
14:52:17 | Jungti1234 | haha.. It's not my WPS. :D |
14:52:29 | linuxstb | It's nice anyway. |
14:52:36 | Paprica | its an h3xx iriver orginal wps |
14:52:40 | Paprica | on rockbox=] |
14:52:58 | safetydan | Does anyone feel like testing a modified SDL simulator? |
14:53:01 | safetydan | http://iocaine.org/uisimulator-sdl.patch |
14:53:07 | safetydan | Works on Win32 and Linux now. |
14:53:16 | safetydan | Except codec loading on Win32 fails for some reason |
14:53:16 | Paprica | the video is for the patch |
14:53:24 | Paprica | he dont understand what it does |
14:53:28 | linuxstb | safetydan: Do plugins fail as well? |
14:53:31 | safetydan | no |
14:53:33 | safetydan | they work |
14:53:48 | safetydan | Not the worlds greatest code. It's been many years since I've written C |
14:54:01 | safetydan | Basically ported the Win32 sim to SDL |
14:54:06 | safetydan | So event handling works in windows |
14:54:21 | linuxstb | So is the codec problem the only bug left? |
14:54:33 | safetydan | user visible bug yeah |
14:54:48 | safetydan | oh, charset based LCDs don't seem to work right I think |
14:55:05 | LinusN | what do you guys think is the best paradigm for setting the margins? leftmargin+width or leftmargin+rightmargin? |
14:55:14 | safetydan | and it's missing the bit to load the hardware bitmaps and blit them in to the simulator window |
14:56:41 | moda` | is that patch that allows the text scrolling thingo committed? or is it in optimized? |
14:56:43 | muesli__ | Jungti1234 where do i get that patch |
14:56:47 | muesli__ | its awesome! |
14:56:52 | Jungti1234 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1417090&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
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14:56:54 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
14:57:11 | Jungti1234 | It's included to Optimized Build perhaps. |
14:57:19 | linuxstb | LinusN: Definitely leftmargin+rightmargin |
14:57:22 | muesli__ | didnt see it there |
14:57:41 | amiconn | wargh :( |
14:57:54 | amiconn | m68k-elf-gcc 3.4.5 fails to build on amd64 |
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14:58:12 | Lear | amiconn: 4.0.2 too, afaik. |
14:58:17 | amiconn | ICE |
14:58:32 | Lear | On what appears to be very simple code... |
14:58:59 | Lear | Builds just fine in 32-bit mode though... |
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14:59:04 | LinusN | linuxstb: why is that better? |
14:59:15 | linuxstb | LinusN: But I think a "scroll window" for a line of text isn't the same as margins. |
14:59:30 | LinusN | that's maybe the issue |
14:59:38 | linuxstb | left/right margins are sensible for general text display. For scrolling, I think you want a window. |
14:59:52 | LinusN | it should probably be lcd_set_viewport(x,y,width,height); |
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15:00:04 | LinusN | or something |
15:00:40 | linuxstb | Or simply a new "width" parameter for the scrollxy functions |
15:02:16 | amiconn_ | bbl |
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15:06:13 | preglow | LinusN: there? |
15:06:32 | preglow | LinusN: don't know if you've read the logs, but the eq seems to be very efficient |
15:06:55 | preglow | i did ten bands yesterday, which made flac decode at a couple of percent boost |
15:07:10 | preglow | and ten bands is overkill |
15:07:44 | LinusN | ninja!!!!!! |
15:08:02 | LinusN | bring on the patch |
15:08:05 | preglow | will |
15:08:13 | * | LinusN drools |
15:08:15 | preglow | but yeah, a couple of things |
15:08:22 | Jungti1234 | you know ninja? |
15:08:31 | preglow | there's the potential to use different filtering routines for peaking and shelving filters |
15:08:41 | LinusN | Jungti1234: watch out, he's right behind you! |
15:08:43 | preglow | with miniscule impact |
15:09:01 | preglow | namely that i can hard code the shift factor, and save one move, which isn't even innerloop, or any loop |
15:09:03 | Jungti1234 | haha |
15:09:34 | LinusN | preglow: don't bother |
15:10:33 | preglow | i wont |
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15:10:49 | preglow | would probably end up lessening performance anyway |
15:10:50 | preglow | due to cache miss |
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15:12:11 | linuxstb | People have talked about Rio's equaliser in the past. I've found some screenshots: http://www.dapreview.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=65&pos=33 |
15:12:24 | linuxstb | start there, and then browse forward in the "gallery" |
15:12:32 | preglow | ahahahah |
15:12:36 | preglow | for a second there i thought that was all |
15:13:47 | LinusN | linuxstb: looks like a good approach |
15:15:26 | Jungti1234 | LinusN! |
15:15:34 | Jungti1234 | Color BMP support? |
15:15:40 | Jungti1234 | in H300? |
15:15:45 | LinusN | yes |
15:15:49 | Jungti1234 | yaho |
15:16:19 | Jungti1234 | 24bit? 16bit? |
15:17:13 | LinusN | 24bit so far, will add 16 and 8 later |
15:17:26 | Bagder | but the display is still 16bit |
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15:19:15 | JdGordon | colour support... is that wps aswell? so we dont really need the h300 optmized build anymore? or is there more in that? |
15:19:35 | LinusN | the optimized build still has transparency and text color selection |
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15:20:13 | Jungti1234 | I want.. |
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15:20:31 | Jungti1234 | Transparent background of text |
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15:21:05 | LinusN | that's a little hard to fix for scrolling text |
15:21:06 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1967 |
15:21:35 | Jungti1234 | [23:12:57] <Paprica> you can't do it |
15:21:38 | Jungti1234 | :( |
15:22:24 | Jungti1234 | So, I gave up it. |
15:23:03 | Bagder | of course it _can_ be done |
15:23:06 | Jungti1234 | And I'm making this: http://jungti1234.netcci.net/iriver/h300/rockbox/dump%20400101-170227%20copy.png |
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15:24:27 | LinusN | scrolling texts is the real problem, since the scroller needs to clear the background before rendering the text |
15:24:45 | Bagder | yes, it would take some thinking and changing of things |
15:24:58 | Jungti1234 | sorry |
15:25:05 | linuxstb | Was the solution to that to have a full-screen background image? |
15:25:20 | LinusN | that's one solution |
15:25:24 | LinusN | a backdrop image |
15:25:34 | Jungti1234 | sorry, I can't help to you because I don't know C. |
15:25:35 | Domonoky | new patch for brickmania on h1x0, on top of actual CVS: http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmania.patch, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmaniah1x0bmps.zip |
15:26:17 | Domonoky | if anyone likes to try, a rock for h1x0: http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmania.rock |
15:26:25 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Did my attempt at controlling the speed work on the h1x0? |
15:26:30 | Domonoky | yes.. |
15:26:50 | Domonoky | but i slowed it abit more down.. |
15:26:57 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Do you want to buy a new H300? |
15:27:03 | LinusN | yes |
15:27:07 | Domonoky | cycle time of 50ms is playabel on h1x0 |
15:27:15 | Rob2222 | Do you know how much you have to pay? |
15:27:21 | linuxstb | Domonoky: That's makes sense I think. I'll try it and see how it compares to the ipod. |
15:27:23 | preglow | someone just embed some nvidia chip on our next target, please |
15:27:36 | LinusN | well, i hope to get one for less than $200 |
15:27:39 | linuxstb | With a nice nvidia binary driver? |
15:27:49 | Rob2222 | Hmm OK. |
15:27:50 | Bagder | nvidia is just as evil as the others |
15:28:11 | JdGordon | any chance of the build script only adding the changed files to the zip to download? save everyone bandwidth? |
15:28:13 | Rob2222 | In Germany the H340s are sold for 290-350 Euro. |
15:28:22 | Bagder | JdGordon: change since when? |
15:28:28 | preglow | haha |
15:28:34 | JdGordon | no, im asking if it could be changed |
15:28:39 | preglow | i don't really think it's realistic to have them open that driver |
15:28:48 | preglow | i expect there are a ton of tools that would need opening to |
15:28:48 | preglow | o |
15:28:53 | Bagder | JdGordon: yes, and how would it work? |
15:29:00 | Rob2222 | I have purchased a new H340 for 350 Euro with 2 years warranty from a guy from iRiver germany. |
15:29:24 | Rob2222 | But I hope to get at least 300 Euro for my old unit, cause I didnt have much money atm. |
15:29:44 | LinusN | Rob2222: you have two units now? |
15:29:55 | Rob2222 | Yes. |
15:29:56 | JdGordon | Bagder: i dunno... but dling 1.6mb every day must be expensive on rb.org's bandwidth, and is a pain for every1 else... |
15:29:59 | Rob2222 | ATM |
15:30:04 | LinusN | Rob2222: why? |
15:30:26 | Rob2222 | I got 2 years warranty for 30-50 Euro. |
15:30:43 | Rob2222 | Depends on which price I can sell my old. |
15:30:58 | Rob2222 | But I think 300 Euro at ebay germany are possible |
15:32:32 | Rob2222 | If I had more money I would give you my old unit foor a good price. but atm i really have a euro to much :( |
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15:33:01 | Rob2222 | A H320 at ebay.com will be much cheaper. |
15:33:24 | Rob2222 | All H340 at ebay.de that are sold last 30 (or 90) days ended between 290 and 350 euro |
15:34:29 | Rob2222 | And I have now connection to a guy how had worked at iriver germany :) |
15:34:38 | Rob2222 | He says he has still connections. |
15:34:46 | Rob2222 | Maybe if we need something. |
15:35:20 | Rob2222 | If I should ask if he can get only a PCB for H300? @ linus |
15:35:33 | Rob2222 | a working pcb |
15:36:28 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Your brickmania patch isn't working for me - it's a DOS text file. |
15:36:37 | LinusN | Rob2222: good idea |
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15:37:07 | Rob2222 | LinusN: OK, I will write him a mail. |
15:39:40 | Domonoky | oh... |
15:40:26 | linuxstb | But that's probably not the problem - it gives me an error "malformed patch at line 15" |
15:40:38 | Domonoky | hm.. |
15:40:58 | linuxstb | You can just upload brickmania.c if you want to. |
15:41:14 | safetydan | New version of the SDL simulator patch, this time with double buffering, and UI bitmap support |
15:41:15 | safetydan | http://iocaine.org/uisimulator-sdl.patch |
15:41:35 | linuxstb | UI bitmap support will please a certain person around here |
15:41:47 | Domonoky | ok.. http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmania.c |
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15:42:24 | safetydan | I'm not sure if we're talking about the same UI bitmap support |
15:43:05 | safetydan | I'm just talking about putting a picture of the hardware behind the simulated LCD (like the Win32 sim) |
15:43:09 | linuxstb | Domonoky: OK. That file is DOS as well, but after converting, I can do a clean diff against CVS, so it's fine. |
15:43:26 | Domonoky | ok.. so my editor is bad :-) |
15:44:06 | Domonoky | the only problem with brickmania on h1x0 is the helpscreen, it has too much text.. |
15:44:19 | linuxstb | Maybe make it two screens? |
15:44:34 | linuxstb | Or you'll have to rewrite the text. |
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15:44:51 | Domonoky | or a scrolling funktion.. i have to think about it.. |
15:44:58 | linuxstb | Yes, that would work as well. |
15:46:11 | Domonoky | i have to go.. cu later.. |
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15:46:52 | linuxstb | safetydan: Yes, that's what I mean. |
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16:03:47 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Mail to him is out. |
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16:17:38 | NightCat | Could someone help me to finr iriver korean fw download page? |
16:17:47 | NightCat | (I don't know korean...) |
16:18:03 | NightCat | I just want to download louder fw :) |
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16:18:39 | NightCat | finr = fond |
16:18:50 | NightCat | fond = find :) :) :) |
16:20:03 | NightCat | Hey!!! Somebody!!! |
16:20:25 | Jungti1234 | why |
16:20:37 | Jungti1234 | korean? |
16:20:55 | NightCat | Korean firmware is louder then european... |
16:21:12 | NightCat | Yes kr = jorean is not it? |
16:21:21 | NightCat | jorean = korean... |
16:21:25 | Jungti1234 | haha yes |
16:21:39 | NightCat | Give me the link please... |
16:21:48 | Jungti1234 | 1.29k? |
16:22:00 | NightCat | Just the download page. |
16:22:07 | Jungti1234 | http://service.iriver.co.kr/qk_view.asp?idx=607&p_name=H320 |
16:22:53 | NightCat | Emm... I need another product fw... |
16:22:57 | NightCat | IRiver N11. |
16:23:36 | NightCat | Ok I find it. |
16:24:21 | NightCat | Is it right: http://service.iriver.co.kr/cs_view.asp?idx=632&page=0&p_name=N11&SrchItem=&SrchString=&SrchProduct= |
16:24:37 | Jungti1234 | heh |
16:25:06 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
16:25:13 | NightCat | What? |
16:25:33 | Jungti1234 | Can't it download? |
16:25:55 | NightCat | Hm, where is the link? |
16:26:06 | Jungti1234 | wati |
16:26:07 | Jungti1234 | wait |
16:26:51 | Jungti1234 | UMS? |
16:27:05 | NightCat | Yes, please, latest ums |
16:27:15 | Jungti1234 | Korea uses iriver plus2 program. |
16:27:37 | NightCat | I know, but i think ums is the better. |
16:27:44 | Jungti1234 | http://service.iriver.co.kr/cs_view.asp?idx=554&p_name=N11 |
16:27:55 | Jungti1234 | It's not updated. |
16:28:17 | NightCat | What you mean? |
16:28:52 | Jungti1234 | It wasn't updated. |
16:29:19 | NightCat | You mean that there is only way to update with iriver plus2? |
16:29:28 | Jungti1234 | yes |
16:29:30 | NightCat | And not to ums? |
16:29:40 | Jungti1234 | yes |
16:29:54 | NightCat | But how to update from russian iriver plu2 to korean firmware... |
16:30:01 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
16:30:21 | Jungti1234 | Use Europe firmware. |
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16:30:35 | NightCat | I think iriver plus2 don't give a choice? |
16:31:05 | Jungti1234 | I dont understand, |
16:31:51 | NightCat | So then if I want to update firmware I need not to download something, I just have to select this option in iriver plus yes? |
16:32:09 | Jungti1234 | hm.. |
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16:32:43 | Jungti1234 | If want upgrade to firmware that you are new, you must use iriver plus2. |
16:33:35 | Jungti1234 | If~+you |
16:33:49 | NightCat | Ok. |
16:33:58 | NightCat | Thx. Anyway. |
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16:34:22 | Jungti1234 | bye |
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16:53:55 | Buttplug | hello anyone? |
16:54:29 | Buttplug | I have cracked the screen in my h120, |
16:54:54 | Buttplug | does anyone know where I can get a new screen? |
16:55:22 | preglow | nick of the year |
16:55:57 | lostlogic | Is there any minimum number of samples that is guaranteed to exist in a packet of codec data for any supported codec? |
16:55:57 | Buttplug | bit early to give that award |
16:56:25 | linuxstb | lostlogic: No - the last packet could contain just 1 sample. |
16:58:11 | Buttplug | does anyone have a trashed Iriver H1XX (with a good screen) they want to sell? |
16:58:37 | lostlogic | I'm trying to figure out a reasonable way to relate the number of buffer sections in the pcmbuffer to the size of it, so I either have to make assumptions about packet size, or aggregate packets into buffer sections |
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16:59:38 | linuxstb | How big is a buffer section at the moment? |
16:59:41 | Rob2222 | Buttplug: Ask on misticriver.net |
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17:00:10 | lostlogic | they are up-to 32k and there are 128 of them |
17:01:16 | Slasheri | lostlogic: the buffers are always fully filled to the 32k |
17:01:34 | lostlogic | Slasheri: then why are there 128 of them? That could point to a 4 meg pcmbuffer? |
17:01:39 | Buttplug | cheers rob8 |
17:01:51 | Slasheri | lostlogic: with crossfade enabled, the buffer can be over 3M |
17:02:31 | Slasheri | Hmm, ~2.6 MB with 15s crossfade |
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17:05:21 | lostlogic | ah, I see. |
17:05:42 | lostlogic | so 128 is the smallest power of 2 that will hold that. |
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17:08:05 | Slasheri | yep |
17:09:07 | Bger | evening :) |
17:09:36 | lostlogic | interesting way to join. |
17:09:51 | Bger | haha why ? |
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17:10:01 | Bger | or this wasn't for me |
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17:17:39 | spiralout_ | hi does anyone know why my wps look like ...eh scattered? |
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17:19:14 | spiralout_ | i mean the images aren´t cognizable and then the playback stops :-/ |
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17:20:10 | spiralout_ | was there a change in the imagestructure or something |
17:20:19 | lostlogic | Slasheri: What are the requirements on the chunk size for the DMA? |
17:26:59 | safetydan | SDL improvement patch submitted to patch tracker. |
17:29:14 | Slasheri | lostlogic: in general, it's good to avoid putting too small chunks for the dma but there are no any real limits |
17:29:23 | lostlogic | Slasheri: ok, that's what I figured. |
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17:36:59 | lostlogic | Slasheri: it looks like the crossfade fade out doesn't handle the case where the fade out wraps on the buffer, is that correct? |
17:39:33 | Buttplug | ciao |
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17:40:05 | Slasheri | lostlogic: crossfade_process_buffer(...), it should handle that |
17:40:40 | Slasheri | it has: blocksize = MIN((pcmbuf_size - pos)/2, blocksize); |
17:40:42 | lostlogic | gah, you're right, I read right over those two lines inside the loop |
17:40:49 | Slasheri | hehe :) |
17:41:53 | lostlogic | mang, I wish there was a way to accurately predict when crossfade would become active so that we wouldn't have to go back and remangle the previous song once the EOF has actually been hit. |
17:42:40 | preglow | very hard to ever be sure of that, yes |
17:43:21 | lostlogic | can't be sure until the last packet is actually decoded... because tags lie. |
17:43:34 | preglow | exactly |
17:43:44 | preglow | any part of the file might lie |
17:43:50 | preglow | like frame count in lame header |
17:43:58 | lostlogic | yeah |
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18:33:28 | preglow | oh, sweet god |
18:33:41 | preglow | if linux is going to refuse to work with my h120 every fifth try, this is going to be fun |
18:34:43 | linuxstb | Do you use an automounter? |
18:34:44 | Mongey | wats the mirc command to join a server? |
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18:37:08 | ep0ch | lostlogic: i have a query regarding A-B mode on ihp-1x0... |
18:37:21 | preglow | linuxstb: it automounts when i insert usb, yes |
18:37:30 | preglow | linuxstb: anything else, and i would have commited suicide long since |
18:37:45 | ep0ch | lostlogic: when in A-B mode is it intentional that previous/next doesnt work |
18:38:41 | lostlogic | ep0ch: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm they should work, but if you are left of A next will go to A and fi you are right of A, prev will go to A |
18:38:50 | linuxstb | preglow: Why suicide? I just have a short "x" script which mounts the iriver, unzips rockbox.zip to it, and then unmounts it. |
18:39:09 | linuxstb | i.e. mount /iriver ; unzip rockbox.zip -d /iriver ; umount /iriver |
18:39:17 | preglow | still, but why'd i want that? |
18:39:26 | preglow | automounting does the same, but with no script |
18:39:35 | preglow | besides, i have no idea how to turn it off, it works that way by default |
18:39:50 | lostlogic | ep0ch: if it's broken, email / /msg me about it and I'll look at it later, I'm off for a couple hours now. |
18:40:32 | preglow | reboot, brb |
18:40:53 | ep0ch | ah ok :) |
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18:55:46 | * | linuxstb celebrates his first FIQ |
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18:57:49 | LinusN | what the fiq! :-) |
18:58:05 | LinusN | fiq'ing cool! |
18:58:55 | Rob2222 | fiq? sounds lick fick which means fuck. |
18:59:05 | LinusN | yeah |
18:59:07 | Rob2222 | -lick+like |
18:59:14 | Rob2222 | fick is german |
18:59:33 | preglow | linuxstb: oooh, great! |
18:59:38 | Rob2222 | FIQ? |
18:59:39 | preglow | linuxstb: how'd you provoke it? |
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19:00:22 | muesli__ | LinusN fiq?`;) |
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19:01:15 | LinusN | muesli__: fast interrupt on the arm cpu |
19:01:34 | muesli__ | :) |
19:01:45 | preglow | you wouldn't happen to know how to make gcc use the banked registers instead of the usual ones in a fiq handler? |
19:01:53 | preglow | i just assume gcc uses the regs from r0 and up |
19:01:55 | LinusN | no i don't |
19:01:55 | Rob2222 | qorking on sound on ipod? *hope* |
19:01:58 | preglow | and the banked ones start at r8 |
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19:03:13 | Rob2222 | -q+w |
19:03:40 | linuxstb | preglow: I finally managed to get the I2S fifo to issue FIQs to the main CPU when it's empty. |
19:03:40 | preglow | LinusN: we might have some clipping problems with the eq |
19:03:42 | Rob2222 | i recognize that i have real problems typing english |
19:03:54 | LinusN | preglow: booo |
19:04:00 | preglow | LinusN: as in, we might be unable to detect a clip, and get an overflow as a result |
19:04:14 | LinusN | ouch |
19:04:42 | linuxstb | It seems the code in IPL was specific to the COP - I subtracted 0x10 from some undocumented addresses and suddenly the cpu started responding. |
19:04:47 | preglow | LinusN: to trigger this, the codec would have had to completely exhaust its headroom, and the eq operate at 24 db gain |
19:05:15 | preglow | linuxstb: oh, i assumed you knew there was different addresses for the cop and cpu on most regs :> |
19:05:27 | preglow | linuxstb: are they listed on the pp5020 wiki page? |
19:05:29 | LinusN | preglow: not very likely, is it? |
19:05:33 | preglow | LinusN: no |
19:05:42 | linuxstb | I sort of assumed that, but I had absolutely no idea what the ipl code was doing. And no, these are undocumented addresses. |
19:05:50 | preglow | it'll also be fun to see how this works on arm, where we don't have guard bits in the accumulator |
19:06:08 | preglow | we can always reserve some, though |
19:06:12 | preglow | on arm we have full width accumulator |
19:06:42 | linuxstb | The FIQ handler should be very simple though, so it shouldn't be a problem to just write it in assembler. |
19:06:53 | preglow | linuxstb: oh, what'll it do? |
19:07:14 | linuxstb | Just keep the fifo full by taking PCM samples from a buffer. |
19:07:33 | linuxstb | But now I need to start thinking about exactly how that can work. |
19:08:30 | LinusN | linuxstb: no dma? |
19:08:48 | preglow | yes dma |
19:09:03 | linuxstb | The IPL audio driver doesn't use dma. |
19:09:10 | preglow | doesn't it? i thought you said it did |
19:09:13 | linuxstb | I lied. |
19:09:22 | preglow | the ipl does however tell me that the dma on the pp chips is a bit shoddy |
19:09:26 | preglow | ipl people |
19:09:38 | linuxstb | The function has "dma" in the name, but I think that's because it simulates dma using the cop. |
19:09:57 | preglow | not a very far-sighted solution |
19:10:01 | linuxstb | Which is why I initially assumed it was using dma before I looked at the code properly. |
19:10:12 | MrShlee | Goodnight |
19:10:13 | preglow | oh well |
19:10:19 | preglow | i'll get back to tweaking the eq |
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19:11:04 | * | preglow listens to white noise' |
19:12:40 | Bger | good band :) |
19:15:14 | preglow | this platform really is challenged when it comes to audio work |
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19:21:34 | Rob2222 | preglow: the ipod? |
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19:26:15 | linuxstb | preglow: Quick arm assembler question - if I wanted to replace "bl fiq" (where fiq is the name of a C function) with a "long call", is it "ldr r0, =fiq \n mov pc, r0" ? |
19:26:34 | preglow | ldr pc, =fiq |
19:26:36 | preglow | should work |
19:26:51 | preglow | pc is a register just like any other |
19:28:31 | linuxstb | What about the link register? |
19:28:40 | preglow | what about it? |
19:28:53 | preglow | right, like that |
19:29:13 | preglow | pc is always two positions in front of the instruction you're at now |
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19:29:41 | preglow | so i think you need to do a mov lr, pc |
19:29:49 | preglow | as long as the next instruction is the ldr |
19:30:20 | linuxstb | So "mov lr,pc" followed by "ldr pc, =fiq" is the equivalent to "bl fiq" ? |
19:30:25 | preglow | but wait a sec, i'm suddenly not too sure about using pc directly in the ldr, i think gcc actually goes via a mov as well |
19:30:32 | preglow | having a look at a disassembly |
19:31:47 | preglow | right, gcc uses bx |
19:31:56 | preglow | the ldr should probably work |
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20:06:59 | linuxstb | preglow: Seems that faad is flying on the ipod.... |
20:07:08 | preglow | yeah, i noticed |
20:07:15 | preglow | you got any nice playback going? :> |
20:07:26 | linuxstb | It's not perfect, but it's getting there. |
20:07:38 | linuxstb | It seems realtime for aac. |
20:07:52 | preglow | wow... |
20:08:03 | preglow | perhaps that's the data cache helping |
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20:10:43 | linuxstb | I don't think I'm dealing with the pcm playback system properly yet though, and that's causing the problems. The fifo filling itself seems fine - no stuttering. |
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20:14:42 | linuxstb | preglow: libmad is happy as well. I think I've fixed it now :) |
20:14:54 | preglow | wooohooo! |
20:15:13 | linuxstb | Finally got the pcm buffer filling... |
20:15:21 | petur | I'm going to try colinux with debian as build environment because cygwin is slooow. Any advise against it before I do the work? |
20:15:25 | preglow | i've got this nasty headache right now, i'm just gonna go away from the screen until the pills kick in |
20:15:26 | linuxstb | Still get data abort errors on flac though. |
20:15:44 | linuxstb | I'm going to take a break too. Later. |
20:15:56 | linuxstb | I'll upload a patch before I go though. |
20:17:19 | linuxstb | Work needed on Vorbis.... Not realtime :( |
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20:23:19 | petur | is there any dev with commit rights that has time to consider the recording gain patch (H1xx/H3xx)? |
20:23:22 | petur | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1403437&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
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20:38:43 | linuxstb | OK, first decent patch for audio on the ipod if anyone (with a Color/Photo or Nano) wants to test: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodaudio.diff |
20:39:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Now see, that's what I like to see as the first message after I wake up. |
20:39:32 | linuxstb | Good morning :) |
20:39:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | :) |
20:40:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Would this apply on top of audio.diff from before? |
20:40:31 | linuxstb | No, from clean cvs |
20:40:59 | muesli__ | what stands cvs for? |
20:41:56 | preglow | concurrent versioning system |
20:41:57 | preglow | i think |
20:42:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think that's right. |
20:43:18 | Rincewind | in german: fortlaufendes Versionskontroll-system (so etwa) |
20:43:21 | linuxstb | This ipod's odd. AAC seems realtime (just about), but ALAC isn't... |
20:43:23 | muesli__ | lol |
20:43:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | ALAC isn't? |
20:43:40 | muesli__ | german translations are aweful ;) |
20:44:08 | Rincewind | i know |
20:44:26 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: My test track isn't. |
20:45:09 | linuxstb | FLAC has memory alignment bugs - so it crashes. Vorbis isn't realtime either. |
20:45:15 | linuxstb | But mp3 seems fine. |
20:45:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
20:49:03 | linuxstb | bbl |
20:51:39 | Rincewind | i have to go |
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20:53:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: When about should FLAC crash? |
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20:53:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | When you're back, that is. |
20:55:24 | preglow | when you try to play a file |
20:55:30 | preglow | i think it only crashes on files that have seek tables |
20:55:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
20:55:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was about to say, I'd assumed that it'd crash instantly, then it made it through a good portion of one. |
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20:58:03 | preglow | hahaha |
20:58:05 | preglow | aac is realtime |
20:58:07 | preglow | this is just plain silly |
20:58:39 | preglow | seriously, this is silly |
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20:58:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mine doesn't seem to like the Next/Prev buttons. |
20:58:43 | preglow | it doesn't even struggle |
20:59:02 | preglow | works fine here |
20:59:12 | preglow | ehh, until it starts playing, that is |
20:59:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Every other song doesn't play for me. |
20:59:32 | preglow | me neither |
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20:59:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay |
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21:00:42 | preglow | i get some small residual crackling |
21:00:45 | preglow | it's barely audible |
21:01:30 | preglow | i wonder why musepack doesn't work |
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21:03:14 | preglow | gapless playback works |
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21:03:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Curse you for having tracks on hand. |
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21:04:06 | preglow | heh |
21:04:11 | preglow | copied my Testfiles/ dir to the nano as well |
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21:05:00 | preglow | but yeah, mpeg, aac, ac3, wavpack, they all work |
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21:05:18 | linuxstb_ | So what's the cop good for? |
21:05:38 | preglow | as in how? |
21:05:52 | linuxstb_ | I mean how can Rockbox use it? |
21:06:14 | preglow | well, i'd think playback/dsp |
21:06:31 | preglow | basically everything related to sound, so we don't need to worry about cache issues |
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21:08:21 | preglow | i've got a realtime ogg file here |
21:08:28 | preglow | but man, is it struggling |
21:08:39 | linuxstb_ | (sorry, lost my connection) |
21:09:04 | Slasheri | hmm, i think i will implement the wps caching soon to allow really fast boot.. |
21:09:05 | linuxstb_ | I was half-joking about the cop. I was just thinking that maybe (to save power) we could just ignore it. |
21:09:14 | preglow | Slasheri: how will that work? |
21:09:29 | preglow | linuxstb_: haha, well, i've thought about it myself |
21:09:32 | preglow | and for now, i say we do it |
21:09:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: What were you saying about mpc not working? |
21:09:38 | preglow | only problem is that ui is really sluggish right now |
21:09:46 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: just that |
21:09:46 | Slasheri | preglow: when wps is first loaded, all bitmaps would be stored in the cache in rockbox native format |
21:10:03 | preglow | Slasheri: is the bmp load that slow? wouldn't it be more than enough just to save all the bmps in one large bmp file? |
21:10:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, mine's about as "not working" as Ogg seems to be. |
21:10:11 | Slasheri | at boot time, those could be loaded from a single cache file fast without opening multiple files |
21:10:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, Vorbis |
21:10:22 | preglow | i personally think wps caching is going a bit far |
21:10:22 | Slasheri | preglow: that would help also much |
21:10:37 | Slasheri | open is the slowest call.. |
21:10:49 | preglow | Slasheri: any idea why the hell wps load is so fast on ipods? |
21:11:07 | Slasheri | hmm, maybe ipods hard drives has integrated cache ram |
21:12:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Never mind, somehow I switched files. |
21:12:22 | linuxstb_ | Well, my drive is a Toshiba MK6006GAH |
21:12:48 | linuxstb_ | Paul_The_Nerd: Yes, I've noticed that bug. Just seek a tiny bit in the file to get sound back. |
21:13:11 | Slasheri | preglow: or you just have very few files on the hard disk :) |
21:13:48 | linuxstb_ | Slasheri: That's not the problem. I recently reformatted my H140, and even with only rockbox on the hard drive, wps loading was still slow. |
21:13:48 | preglow | Slasheri: true... |
21:13:57 | preglow | Slasheri: plus, mine is flash, heh |
21:14:14 | Slasheri | haha :D |
21:14:39 | linuxstb_ | I think boxes takes about 2 seconds on the ipod and about 4-5 seconds on my h140 |
21:15:12 | Slasheri | yeah, flash has about a zero seek time :) |
21:15:24 | Slasheri | so no wonder why it's faster.. |
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21:15:32 | linuxstb_ | (I've got a 60GB hard drive in my ipod) |
21:15:34 | slimx | hy |
21:15:42 | Slasheri | that would be probably as fast as with the dircache enabled |
21:15:43 | preglow | hmm |
21:15:48 | preglow | linuxstb_: sure the asm opts for vorbis are triggered? |
21:16:09 | slimx | hy linuxstb I've got a working lcd driver for ipod 3g |
21:16:11 | linuxstb_ | No idea. We've also remove most of the IRAM usage I think. |
21:16:16 | preglow | Slasheri: hooray! |
21:16:22 | preglow | linuxstb_: oh? |
21:16:25 | slimx | hline, vline, line capable |
21:16:31 | preglow | linuxstb_: god damn, yeah, you've disabled icode_attr |
21:16:32 | linuxstb_ | preglow: long call problems... |
21:17:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Also... volume doesn't work in all situations. |
21:17:06 | linuxstb_ | And also, I don't think all the icode fits into the ipod's iram. |
21:17:23 | linuxstb_ | slimx: Hooray! We have audio playback as well now. |
21:17:33 | preglow | linuxstb_: it doesn't |
21:17:34 | slimx | great |
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21:17:39 | preglow | linuxstb_: we'll need some separate scheme for that |
21:17:40 | slimx | :) |
21:17:58 | BHSPitMonkey | rb on the 3g?? |
21:18:05 | slimx | now i need some help for bitmap part of the lcd driver |
21:18:12 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Yes. Plus you should enable the extra 32kb on the pp5021 |
21:18:13 | slimx | yes BHSPitLappy |
21:18:23 | Slasheri | linuxstb_: oh, ipods can even play audio now? :O |
21:18:43 | linuxstb_ | Since an hour or so ago, yes :) |
21:18:49 | BHSPitMonkey | wow |
21:18:50 | slimx | yes BHSPitMonkey :p |
21:18:53 | preglow | linuxstb_: yeah |
21:18:53 | slimx | sorry |
21:18:57 | slimx | bot ?? |
21:18:58 | Slasheri | oh :) |
21:19:06 | BHSPitMonkey | who? |
21:19:42 | slimx | BHSPit[Lappy/Monkey] |
21:19:48 | BHSPitMonkey | um, no |
21:20:05 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb_: which models? |
21:20:07 | preglow | but i need to get back to the eq stuff |
21:20:17 | linuxstb_ | BHSPitMonkey: Nano and 4G |
21:20:22 | BHSPitMonkey | k |
21:21:11 | linuxstb_ | mp3, aac, wavpack, ac3, wav are all OK. Ogg and ALAC need a little optimising, FLAC has some memory alignment bugs to fix. |
21:21:13 | BHSPitMonkey | audio formats? (or is there a website page I should be seeking) |
21:21:16 | BHSPitMonkey | ahh |
21:21:16 | BHSPitMonkey | lol |
21:21:33 | BHSPitMonkey | cuh-razy timing |
21:21:35 | preglow | linuxstb_: i don't think vorbis yet uses arm opts |
21:21:39 | preglow | linuxstb_: i'll look into it now |
21:22:08 | BHSPitMonkey | will we be seeing an iTunesDB parser someday? :D |
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21:24:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb_: lossless wavpack, and ~200kbit aac are kinda choppy on mine at about the same amount as Ogg was. |
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21:28:29 | linuxstb_ | Paul_The_Nerd: I've only got one aac file - 128kbps. That one seems fine, apart from an occasional glitch when (I think) the audio buffer is filling from disk. |
21:28:35 | preglow | interesting..... |
21:29:08 | preglow | my ogg files now actually crash the cpu after a while |
21:29:13 | preglow | my first illegal instruction exception so far |
21:29:21 | linuxstb_ | Is that with the arm opts enabled? |
21:29:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gotcha. My Ogg was encoded at Q8 and the aac at ~200, and the felt *about* the same. |
21:29:25 | preglow | linuxstb_: yea |
21:29:26 | BHSPitLappy | when I re-build after a cvs update, do I need to update the makefile as well? |
21:29:30 | BHSPitLappy | or will it be the same |
21:29:35 | linuxstb_ | It's not in CVS yet. |
21:29:39 | BHSPitLappy | mmk |
21:29:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Same song, both encoded down from a flac. |
21:29:46 | BHSPitLappy | still a general question :P |
21:29:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Seemed the best way to try it. |
21:29:49 | slimx | so can someone tell me what would be the preferred way for 3g bitmap support ? |
21:30:01 | linuxstb_ | I think I may as well commit it though. Give me a second... |
21:30:33 | slimx | will it be to repack horizontally all data |
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21:31:00 | linuxstb_ | slimx: Yes, that's been planned. |
21:31:16 | linuxstb_ | The problem is that the fonts are stored as mono bitmaps - so we'll need a new font format. |
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21:31:27 | slimx | or to get rockbox working for both linear and vertical bitmaps |
21:31:52 | linuxstb_ | But even with colour LCDs, storing mono bitmaps horizontally packed will bring improvements. So it's a general issue, not just for your port. |
21:32:14 | slimx | ok |
21:32:50 | linuxstb_ | So do you have a horizontally packed framebuffer? |
21:32:58 | linuxstb_ | I mean in your implementation? |
21:33:04 | slimx | yes i have |
21:33:27 | slimx | so bitmaps just can't work for now |
21:33:39 | slimx | since i didn't repack it |
21:34:26 | linuxstb_ | BHSPitLappy: Audio playback is now in CVS. |
21:34:33 | BHSPitLappy | kewl |
21:34:50 | slimx | fb_data lcd_framebuffer[LCD_H][LCD_W/4] |
21:34:58 | preglow | some of the asm opts are flat out wrong |
21:35:18 | linuxstb_ | hehe |
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21:35:28 | linuxstb_ | Maybe it's worth checking their latest svn |
21:36:19 | preglow | i will |
21:36:27 | preglow | this is the kind of error that gets fixed prett quick |
21:36:35 | preglow | since you can't bloody compile without errors all over the place |
21:38:49 | linuxstb_ | slimx: Do you have font drawing working? Or is that your next problem? |
21:39:36 | slimx | it is my next problem |
21:39:52 | Domonoky | ui.. audio on Ipod.. so its time for a "gentlemen" mail ? :-) |
21:39:55 | slimx | i need to implement correctly draw_bitmap_part |
21:40:06 | slimx | and mono_bitmap as well |
21:40:21 | preglow | hahah |
21:40:40 | linuxstb_ | You should talk to amiconn about it - he was the one talking about changing the format for horizontally packed lcds. |
21:41:03 | linuxstb_ | But I think for now, it will be easier to make your bitmap functions take a vertical bitmap and convert to the horizontal format. |
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21:41:21 | slimx | but i don't think i'm good enough to repack horizontaly image data |
21:41:27 | preglow | linuxstb_: it's still wrong in svn.... |
21:41:49 | preglow | it's a quick fix anyway |
21:41:52 | linuxstb_ | I would have thought the IPL people at least would have had problems. |
21:42:17 | preglow | hah, no |
21:42:21 | preglow | this is one of _OUR_ bugs |
21:42:26 | preglow | someone's removed a memory dereference |
21:42:27 | preglow | hahaha |
21:42:36 | linuxstb_ | hehe |
21:42:50 | preglow | well ok, i just need to macrofy some inlines |
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21:45:46 | slimx | is there such wrapping code samples in the rockbox tree ? |
21:47:25 | linuxstb_ | I don't think so. Maybe the lcd-16bit.c code will help a little - it at least does half the conversion for you. |
21:47:54 | slimx | you write 16bpp ? |
21:48:35 | linuxstb_ | No, amiconn did. |
21:49:10 | slimx | he is the bitconverting master ;) ? |
21:49:50 | preglow | yes, yes he is |
21:50:09 | slimx | !invoke amnicon |
21:50:29 | preglow | no! not amnicon! he's the evil twin! |
21:50:33 | * | preglow flees |
21:50:38 | slimx | lol |
21:51:01 | linuxstb_ | I'm sure he's looking forward to writing a new lcd driver :) |
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21:51:21 | preglow | we're doomed! |
21:51:31 | slimx | i hope |
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21:52:50 | linuxstb_ | What happened? |
21:53:51 | preglow | standard reaction to evil twins |
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21:56:40 | safetydan | What library is the current leading contender for WMA playback under Rockbox? |
21:57:02 | linuxstb_ | There is only one open source wma decoder - in ffmpeg |
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21:57:52 | tucoz | congratulations linuxstb. Now, fire up a cigar and post that Gentlemen mail :) |
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21:58:58 | linuxstb_ | tucoz: Thanks :) |
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21:59:14 | tucoz | wow, 11 targets with sound. |
21:59:26 | preglow | this surely does mark the point at which the ipod part starts being useable |
21:59:32 | preglow | partport |
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22:00:13 | tucoz | imho, this is frontpage news |
22:00:14 | linuxstb_ | Does that mean daily builds, and.... |
22:00:18 | linuxstb_ | users? |
22:00:44 | * | Paul_The_Nerd gasps. |
22:00:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Don't say that word. |
22:00:58 | * | petur hides from the ipod user flood |
22:01:12 | tucoz | hehe, are you worried for being head of the support section. |
22:01:17 | linuxstb_ | We can just send them to #rockbox.ipod |
22:02:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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22:03:45 | preglow | linuxstb_: looks like the usb reboot thing has broken |
22:04:20 | linuxstb_ | I've noticed that. It doesn't work for me if I plug usb in with the ipod turned off. But if I'm in rockbox and plug in usb, it works. |
22:04:40 | preglow | not here, it just stays at the usb logo |
22:04:55 | tucoz | aha, so the 3G has a slower processor than the current targets. Wonder if it will be able to run rockbox on it. |
22:05:08 | linuxstb_ | preglow: It _never_ works? |
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22:05:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mine matches linuxstb_'s description, but I've got the RetailOS USB mode applied. |
22:05:44 | preglow | linuxstb_: apparently not |
22:05:49 | preglow | linuxstb_: we have realtime ogg, btw |
22:05:59 | * | linuxstb_ cheers |
22:06:30 | linuxstb_ | Have you tested high-bitrate ogg? |
22:06:42 | preglow | nope, primarily because i have no high-bitrate ogg |
22:06:46 | preglow | oh wait, that's not true |
22:06:48 | preglow | i'll copy some |
22:09:01 | tucoz | A good thing about the ipod port is that it should be not that hard to get hold of a fairly cheap rockbox device. |
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22:09:24 | preglow | linuxstb_: 265kbps works fine |
22:09:31 | linuxstb_ | Nice :) |
22:09:39 | preglow | small wonder it didn't work |
22:09:40 | tucoz | considering the amount of ipods sold. |
22:09:40 | preglow | or |
22:09:46 | preglow | well, perhaps i'm thinking too highly of gcc |
22:09:55 | slimx | tucoz, i hope it will give better perfs than ipod linux does |
22:10:09 | preglow | a bit surprising it doesn't manage fast 64 bit arithmetic itself |
22:10:23 | preglow | i'm pretty certain we will |
22:10:27 | preglow | if only because we use a smaller kernel |
22:10:47 | linuxstb_ | The linux kernel is about 1.6MB by itself... |
22:11:00 | slimx | yes that's why i'm working on the port |
22:11:15 | tucoz | slimx, ok. is the ipod linux usable on the 3g? |
22:11:21 | slimx | we'll do it |
22:11:43 | slimx | faster and better :) |
22:12:01 | slimx | i tried |
22:12:42 | slimx | it wasn't really good |
22:12:46 | tucoz | cool, guess rockbox is less demanding than a linux kernel |
22:13:01 | preglow | no guessing involved |
22:13:03 | preglow | it is |
22:13:09 | preglow | we do less |
22:13:14 | tucoz | :) |
22:13:21 | preglow | tucoz: btw, what up with the latex manual? |
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22:13:32 | slimx | mp3 loading was too long |
22:13:58 | slimx | and broke at high rates :p |
22:14:04 | tucoz | preglow. I have to hand in my masters thesis in three weeks. So, I am pretty busy with that. But, I´ll have a look at it after that. |
22:14:39 | preglow | tucoz: i was thinking more on the status of it, can we commit it? |
22:15:01 | preglow | slimx: well, don't expect much with your device yet, it's very much slower than our current targets |
22:15:17 | tucoz | I have done nothing more on it. I think linuxstb had a look on some changes some time before christmas. |
22:15:41 | linuxstb_ | No, I didn't really do anything with it either. |
22:15:50 | tucoz | I think some minor changes to the file structure |
22:15:51 | linuxstb_ | But we shouldn't forget it. |
22:16:36 | tucoz | If you do, I´ll remind you. Hopefully with cvs-ready version. |
22:18:21 | tucoz | I think we need to think about how to separate the different targets. Maybe just post something in the forum thread if you come to think of anything, |
22:19:15 | tucoz | anyway. got to leave. see you. |
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22:20:24 | slimx | time will tell |
22:21:15 | slimx | i just expect to get a useable rockbox |
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22:22:12 | linuxstb_ | I'm sure it will be. And I'm sure more people will start to help you. |
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22:22:52 | preglow | sure |
22:24:01 | preglow | linuxstb_: there you go |
22:24:06 | preglow | now ogg should work just nice |
22:24:48 | linuxstb_ | :) So it plays anything now? |
22:25:48 | preglow | well |
22:25:49 | preglow | there's flac |
22:25:52 | linuxstb_ | Now you'll have to write your eq routines in arm as well... |
22:25:52 | slimx | thx |
22:26:00 | preglow | linuxstb_: sure, but i'm insane and like asm now |
22:26:03 | linuxstb_ | I was talking about any Vorbis file. |
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22:26:16 | preglow | linuxstb_: i've no idea, i have nothing higher than the 265kbps one |
22:26:42 | slimx | i'll update to see what you did for sound :) |
22:27:26 | preglow | nothing that applies to your unit, i think |
22:27:41 | linuxstb_ | No, but the principle will be identical I think. |
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22:29:22 | linuxstb_ | I now need to finish the wm8975 driver - we don't even have volume control yet. But we have a datasheet :) |
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22:29:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | And that's a very nice thing, that is. |
22:30:20 | gibbs_ | somebody please kill the mother freaking ali rose wiki spammer |
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22:30:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well that was pleasant. |
22:32:30 | slimx | :) |
22:33:13 | preglow | and i need to finish the eq |
22:33:14 | preglow | beh |
22:33:31 | preglow | which involves measurements |
22:33:32 | preglow | i love those |
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22:35:56 | linuxstb_ | Ogg isn't quite realtime for me - I get occasional skips when the disk is being read. |
22:36:44 | linuxstb_ | But once the buffer is full, it's perfect. |
22:37:48 | preglow | no, it's still not as fast as the other codecs |
22:37:58 | preglow | but that's a fact we'll have to get used to, i think |
22:38:12 | preglow | i'd love it if monty on co made vorbis2 soon |
22:38:18 | preglow | and co |
22:38:29 | preglow | they've probably learnt a great deal about being embedded-friendly since last time |
22:38:51 | Slasheri | linuxstb_: please consider separating the pcm_playback.c into different files at some point (for example pcm_uda1380 and pcm_wm8975.c) |
22:39:16 | linuxstb_ | Slasheri: Yes, that seemed obvious to me as well. |
22:39:24 | Slasheri | great :) |
22:39:32 | linuxstb_ | svn! |
22:39:38 | preglow | svnsvnsvn! |
22:40:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | svn? |
22:40:46 | preglow | subversion |
22:40:49 | preglow | a better cvs |
22:41:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was just curious why it was suddenly being shouted about. |
22:42:00 | linuxstb_ | It allows renaming and moving of files. |
22:42:18 | petur | it's been shouted about several times ;) |
22:42:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not surprising that it has. :) |
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22:47:35 | lostlogic | Hmm... think it'll play music on first attempt for phase one pcmbuf rehack? |
22:48:10 | Bger | linuxstb this needs the "Gentlemen, we have sound" on the home page ... |
22:49:30 | lostlogic | w00t! music plays! |
22:51:04 | preglow | woo |
22:52:01 | lostlogic | the pcmbuffer and the descriptors for it are now all allocated out of the main buffer, instead of the descriptors being allocated separately statically |
22:52:24 | lostlogic | performance looks to be nearly identical to the "old way" |
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22:55:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nearly identical? |
22:56:17 | lostlogic | yeah, I didn't change anything really... actually I was kinda expecting worse, because this moves the descriptors from IRAM to SDRAM |
22:56:18 | preglow | main buffer? |
22:56:24 | preglow | oh |
22:56:31 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: how'd your gif viewer ever work out? |
22:56:33 | lostlogic | preglow: they are in the same part of space as the pcmbuffer |
22:56:34 | preglow | doesn't exactly sound like prime use of iram |
22:56:56 | lostlogic | preglow: hrm? |
22:58:40 | preglow | doesn't exactly sound like the best kind of data to keep in iram |
22:59:02 | lostlogic | the buffer descriptors? That's why they're moved to sdram with the linked list style buffer that I've got now. |
22:59:40 | lostlogic | also saves in total ram allocated in all cases, except when using maximum crossfade setting |
22:59:54 | BHSPitLappy | wow, guys! |
23:00 |
23:00:02 | BHSPitLappy | I just tried a song for the first time |
23:00:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Survey says? |
23:00:41 | BHSPitLappy | hmm |
23:00:42 | BHSPitLappy | it was good |
23:00:49 | BHSPitLappy | it's stuttered twice though |
23:01:06 | BHSPitLappy | (AAC 128k VBR) |
23:01:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | What type of file? |
23:01:41 | preglow | well |
23:01:46 | BHSPitLappy | sounds great though |
23:01:51 | preglow | it's a miracle, direct from heaven, that aac works at all |
23:01:55 | BHSPitLappy | i know |
23:01:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
23:02:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Interesting way of putting it. |
23:02:13 | BHSPitLappy | is it just me, or is volume control ineffective? :D |
23:02:21 | preglow | fuck childbirth, this is a bona-fide miracle |
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23:02:56 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
23:03:04 | | Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") |
23:03:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | it was decided that with so many disagreements over scale it was just easier to make it constant. :-P |
23:03:37 | preglow | BHSPitLappy: doesn't work, no |
23:03:41 | petur | hahaha |
23:03:46 | BHSPitLappy | it's ok :D |
23:03:55 | BHSPitLappy | Paul_The_Nerd: haha |
23:03:58 | | Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
23:04:05 | | Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) |
23:04:29 | amiconn | w00t |
23:04:34 | preglow | w00t indeed |
23:04:40 | preglow | heard anything from at&t? |
23:04:42 | * | amiconn reads about audio on iPod, and even aac |
23:04:48 | amiconn | Congrats! |
23:05:16 | BHSPitLappy | ok, so when i go to the menu during playback, how do I get back to the, ahem, "now playing" screen? |
23:05:28 | | Quit actionshrimp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
23:05:50 | preglow | BHSPitLappy: play? |
23:05:56 | preglow | BHSPitLappy: as in the button |
23:06:07 | BHSPitLappy | it's not doing anything |
23:06:12 | BHSPitLappy | (from the main menu) |
23:06:17 | linuxstb | Press MENU to exit the menu |
23:06:26 | BHSPitLappy | oh...I hit PREV and it worked |
23:07:00 | BHSPitLappy | haha...it shows my Metallica test song as Genre:Blues |
23:07:06 | BHSPitLappy | i wonder if that's actually what the tag says |
23:07:08 | amiconn | Severe wiki spam alert! :-( |
23:07:19 | BHSPitLappy | uh oh |
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23:07:52 | BHSPitLappy | link? |
23:08:57 | petur | well if you compare their current work with their first records, it's not far off :P |
23:09:26 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: MENU only shows the song screen if you hold it down |
23:09:40 | BHSPitLappy | but just going back tree-style with << works |
23:11:09 | BHSPitLappy | woah...have there been major optimisations in general? bejeweled seems to be running a lot faster |
23:11:11 | | Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dslcustomer-230-197.vivodi.gr) |
23:11:24 | BHSPitLappy | like...as fast as it ever should :P |
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23:11:45 | preglow | bejeweled needs frame rate compensation |
23:12:14 | BHSPitLappy | hmm? |
23:13:10 | BHSPitLappy | heck, everything seems to be running a lot faster than my last build |
23:13:48 | Genre9mp3 | Newbie here.....A Quick-Simple question...does Rockbox will ever support video for the H300s? |
23:14:34 | thegeek | I think it safe to say that it will probably eventually do so |
23:16:10 | * | Bagder expects a gentlemen mail soon... |
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23:16:21 | BHSPitLappy | huh? |
23:16:37 | Genre9mp3 | thnx... |
23:16:41 | preglow | linuxstb: gentleman mail! |
23:17:03 | kkurbjun | does anyone understand variable arguement functions well, specifically creating them and using the arguements? |
23:17:51 | preglow | what do you need it for? |
23:18:32 | kkurbjun | I'm trying to make a simple printf, and I have it, but when I pass on variables such as integers, they get all messed up |
23:18:44 | kkurbjun | void printf (const char format[], ...) |
23:18:44 | kkurbjun | { |
23:18:44 | kkurbjun | char p_buf[50]; |
23:18:44 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK kkurbjun |
23:18:44 | kkurbjun | static int p_xtpt; |
23:18:44 | kkurbjun | snprintf(p_buf, sizeof(p_buf), format); |
23:18:44 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
23:18:44 | kkurbjun | rb->lcd_putsxy(1,p_xtpt, (unsigned char *)p_buf); |
23:18:45 | Bagder | you could check the source for the rockbox printf code |
23:18:47 | kkurbjun | rb->lcd_update(); |
23:18:47 | Bagder | for example |
23:18:49 | kkurbjun | p_xtpt+=10; |
23:18:50 | kkurbjun | if(p_xtpt>160) p_xtpt=0; |
23:18:53 | kkurbjun | rb->sleep(100); |
23:18:54 | kkurbjun | } |
23:18:57 | kkurbjun | that's what I have |
23:19:00 | kkurbjun | oh, there is one? |
23:19:03 | kkurbjun | I didn't realize that |
23:19:08 | Bagder | I meant snprintf |
23:19:27 | Bagder | you need to use va_list, va_start, va_arg (and va_end) |
23:19:34 | | Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
23:19:54 | Bagder | thus, you can use snprintf() from within your printf |
23:19:57 | Bagder | cannot |
23:20:23 | Bagder | but instead use vsnprintf |
23:20:40 | kkurbjun | well, it's passing arguements, strings work.. sometimes.. and integers never work.. is that function accessable to plugins? |
23:20:50 | | Quit Genre9mp3 () |
23:20:54 | kkurbjun | I'll look at the example |
23:20:56 | Bagder | well that snippet was plain wrong |
23:21:09 | Bagder | it works by pure accident |
23:21:22 | kkurbjun | so I need the va_ stuff then.. |
23:21:28 | Bagder | yes |
23:22:18 | Bagder | you can get inspiration from the fdprintf() function |
23:22:34 | kkurbjun | ok, thanks, I'll look into it |
23:22:57 | Bagder | early night tonight... off to bed I go |
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23:24:53 | BHSPitLappy | does midi work, i wonder |
23:25:46 | linuxstb | Nope. |
23:25:50 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
23:25:50 | * | LinusN does the famous "gentlemen" dance |
23:27:06 | * | Paul_The_Nerd cheers. |
23:28:03 | BHSPitLappy | 192 mp3 sounds great |
23:28:25 | LinusN | time to buy an ipod then :-) |
23:28:27 | BHSPitLappy | such sonic detail! :D haha |
23:28:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
23:28:45 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
23:29:09 | lostlogic | when the 5g has audio, then... then it's iPod time |
23:29:17 | linuxstb | LinusN: http://www.apple.com |
23:29:21 | * | LinusN considers a "Linus needs an ipod" thread on MR :-) |
23:29:36 | BHSPitLappy | when the 5g has audio... then the 6g will be a better target :D |
23:29:38 | BHSPitLappy | jk |
23:29:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think MR might not be the best place for that. ;-) |
23:29:39 | linuxstb | Those donations will flood in |
23:30:48 | BHSPitLappy | does midi work well on the supported targets? |
23:31:09 | BHSPitLappy | I had a software-based midi player on my pocketpc once... |
23:31:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | BHSPitLappy: At the moment, midi doesn't really work at all. |
23:31:31 | BHSPitLappy | ah |
23:31:58 | linuxstb | Even Rockboy has sound.... (sort-of) |
23:32:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | The code there runs at 70something % speed, if I recall, but only renders it to wave, and doesn't actually play back or write to disk. It's sorta a "work in progress" that lost the "progress" at some point. |
23:32:25 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: running on what? |
23:32:34 | linuxstb | My 4g |
23:32:35 | linuxstb | (color) |
23:32:50 | BHSPitLappy | does that run on the nano? :D |
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23:33:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | There aren't screen settings for the nano yet, I believe. |
23:33:12 | linuxstb | No, and it also doesn't have very good button mappings (only the direction keys and start... ) |
23:33:50 | BHSPitLappy | no taps in rockbox, right |
23:34:03 | linuxstb | Not at the moment. |
23:34:20 | BHSPitLappy | linux doesn't pick up my nano's taps either |
23:34:38 | * | BHSPitLappy speculates this is due to different wheel manufacturer |
23:34:43 | linuxstb | Well, we haven't tried to implement them in Rockbox at all. |
23:34:49 | BHSPitLappy | yeah |
23:35:18 | BHSPitLappy | so was that gif plugin yours? |
23:35:28 | linuxstb | No - eli_sherer |
23:35:42 | | Quit Rondom ("I'm leaving on a jetplane, don't know when I'll be back again...") |
23:35:45 | linuxstb | He wrote most of those "plugbox" plugins for the iriver H300. |
23:36:03 | BHSPitLappy | ah... |
23:36:29 | BHSPitLappy | I'm interested in it (since 'accidentally' seeing it work correctly on my nano :D ) |
23:38:04 | BHSPitLappy | music + bejeweled = :D |
23:40:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | there's a bejeweled patch that makes it use the new BMP loader, and speeds up the brick dropping and such. |
23:40:20 | BHSPitLappy | it's already really fast on my nano right now... |
23:40:39 | BHSPitLappy | (much faster than my last build... has the patch been implemented?) |
23:41:13 | | Part Sando |
23:41:16 | RotAtoR | actually i have a new patch that should properly fix speed issues |
23:41:40 | RotAtoR | with no more boosting |
23:42:30 | RotAtoR | if you wouldn't mind testing, the patch and bmps are up here ;) : https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/aboot2/www/bejeweled/ |
23:42:41 | preglow | sweet lord |
23:42:44 | preglow | audacity is so shit |
23:42:47 | BHSPitLappy | ? |
23:43:11 | preglow | i am seriously contemplating spitting time into writing a good audio editor for linux |
23:43:16 | BHSPitLappy | :/ |
23:43:21 | * | BHSPitLappy likes audacity... |
23:43:33 | preglow | it's the best linux audio editor |
23:43:37 | preglow | which isn't saying much |
23:43:44 | BHSPitLappy | i use it in windows actually |
23:43:44 | preglow | i want my cooledit, goddamnit |
23:43:59 | RotAtoR | adobe audition now... |
23:44:02 | preglow | yes, i know |
23:44:04 | * | petur is also using audacity atm :D |
23:44:05 | preglow | it's the best |
23:44:10 | preglow | nothing beats it |
23:44:11 | RotAtoR | it's what I use as well :) |
23:44:31 | petur | how's the compressor filter in cooledit? |
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23:46:33 | Jungti1234 | hi :) |
23:47:18 | * | BHSPitLappy just beat level 1 in bejeweled |
23:47:20 | BHSPitLappy | w00t. |
23:48:03 | Jungti1234 | heh |
23:48:04 | RotAtoR | hehe |
23:48:28 | BHSPitLappy | (while listening to music! hells yes!) |
23:48:45 | Jungti1234 | :) |
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23:50:33 | Jungti1234 | hi muesli__ |
23:50:51 | Rob2222 | no audio on the video, yet. or? |
23:51:05 | muesli__ | re |
23:51:09 | muesli__ | hi Jungti1234 |
23:51:30 | BHSPitLappy | Rob2222: : no |
23:52:31 | preglow | LinusN: will i be shot or in any other way killed if i just supply a filtering routine for coldfire now? |
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23:52:50 | LinusN | i don't get it |
23:52:53 | preglow | i never could get a generic c based routine working properly for shelving filters |
23:53:28 | slimx | good news :) |
23:53:30 | LinusN | you mean no eq for the sims/ipods? |
23:53:36 | preglow | ipod eq will come |
23:53:40 | preglow | but for sims, no |
23:53:46 | preglow | not yet at any rate |
23:53:47 | LinusN | i don't care |
23:53:49 | preglow | good |
23:53:52 | preglow | i don't either :-) |
23:53:55 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt - I'm hard to read it. |
23:54:17 | slimx | ipod 3G draw something and load the apple firmware successfully |
23:54:22 | LinusN | Jungti1234: why? |
23:55:20 | Jungti1234 | LinusN: Stick all. |
23:55:41 | LinusN | Jungti1234: i don't understand |
23:55:53 | petur | LinusN: sometimes the log is without linefeeds in IE, firefox does it OK ;) |
23:56:03 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
23:56:43 | LinusN | who uses IE? |
23:56:50 | linuxstb | slimx: Good news. Any progress on the bitmaps? |
23:57:40 | Jungti1234 | Like this. - http://jungti1234.netcci.net/010010.JPG |
23:57:57 | LinusN | haha |
23:58:11 | BHSPitMonkey | heh |
23:58:52 | BHSPitMonkey | slimx: I'm planning to borrow a 3G this week, will I be able to do anything cool to it with regards to rockbox? :D |