| 00:00:09 | preglow | existing file? |
| 00:00:13 | preglow | isn't this going to be an installer? |
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| 00:00:29 | Cassandra | Yeah. |
| 00:00:32 | linuxstb | Fair point.... But assumed it would also be an upgrader. |
| 00:00:41 | Cassandra | But it upgrades too. |
| 00:00:59 | Cassandra | Once it gets really clever it'll remove the old build and install the new one. |
| 00:01:00 | preglow | sure, but you can't escape the fact that the user is going to be able to destroy his/her unit |
| 00:01:05 | preglow | we'll just have to live with that |
| 00:01:11 | preglow | just make the button be large nice images |
| 00:01:12 | Cassandra | In fact I could probably do that with very little effort right now. |
| 00:01:23 | preglow | one way to detect an ipod would be to read the bootsector, though |
| 00:02:09 | preglow | i doubt a lot of people have replaced that |
| 00:02:36 | Mikachu | does the apple firmware care where the fat32 partition starts? |
| 00:02:44 | linuxstb | Not afaik |
| 00:02:57 | Mikachu | maybe i'll recover that 60MB at some point then.. |
| 00:03:13 | linuxstb | Just make sure your Nano never tries to suspend to disk then. |
| 00:03:35 | Mikachu | i have ipodlinux in that space now |
| 00:03:47 | Mikachu | per their instructions |
| 00:03:56 | linuxstb | Their instructions have changed. |
| 00:04:14 | Mikachu | /dev/sda1 * 1 2 16033+ 0 Empty |
| 00:04:14 | Mikachu | /dev/sda2 11 248 1911732 b W95 FAT32 |
| 00:04:14 | Mikachu | /dev/sda3 3 10 64260 83 Linux |
| 00:04:16 | Mikachu | this is no good? |
| 00:04:20 | linuxstb | The recommended action is to shrink your fat32 partition, and add the ext3 at the end. |
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| 00:04:41 | * | Cassandra gets very annoyed with Windows. It's stopped playing wmv files. |
| 00:04:45 | linuxstb | It's OK as long as you never let the retailos go into a deep sleep. |
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| 00:06:39 | Mikachu | hm, okay |
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| 00:06:47 | Mikachu | it won't do that while connected right? |
| 00:07:11 | preglow | no |
| 00:07:30 | Cassandra | Hmm. Bizarre. It plays them in Windows Media Player. Just not in anything else. |
| 00:07:46 | * | Cassandra contemplates hunting down MS. |
| 00:08:08 | * | preglow is dead tired of gui coding |
| 00:08:15 | preglow | how i hates it |
| 00:08:24 | Mikachu | this might explain why ipl died once :) |
| 00:08:49 | Mikachu | i don't suppose anyone's noted exactly where or how much it uses |
| 00:08:50 | preglow | anything but gui coding, please, oh pretty please |
| 00:09:19 | Mikachu | is hooking up the pitch screen gui coding? |
| 00:09:56 | XavierGr | preglow: What kind of stuff do you program right now that includes GUI? |
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| 00:12:24 | preglow | XavierGr: nothing for rockbox |
| 00:12:36 | preglow | quite the contrary, it's the reason i'm not doing rockbox |
| 00:14:41 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i'll save a copy of my sda3 and if it enters deepsleep, i'll do a diff to find if it writes something |
| 00:15:30 | XavierGr | preglow: so your job is related to programming? (or you work as a programmer) |
| 00:15:57 | preglow | yeah, i'm a programmer |
| 00:16:29 | XavierGr | ahh so this is why you know all these crazy stuff!!! :D |
| 00:16:40 | preglow | haha |
| 00:16:44 | preglow | i've just worked as a programmer for a short time |
| 00:16:50 | preglow | it's been a hobby for far longer |
| 00:17:03 | Bagder | you youngster you |
| 00:17:05 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 00:17:13 | preglow | i'm seriously considering working as a gardener instead if i have to do much more gui code |
| 00:17:29 | dpassen1 | haha |
| 00:18:14 | Cassandra | Wow. Even weirder. It's actually the Windows media browser plugin that's gone up the spout. It plays fine from Media Player classic if loaded outside the browser. |
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| 00:19:15 | XavierGr | why someone would want to use Windows media whehn you have Media player classic? |
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| 00:22:27 | Mikachu | is not deep sleeping when plugged in on someone's todo? (nano) |
| 00:25:13 | Cassandra | Actually I'm not sure where the browser plugin is from. |
| 00:25:31 | Cassandra | I mean I'd be happy for it to use Media Player Classic. |
| 00:25:37 | Cassandra | I'm just not sure it is. |
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| 00:27:09 | Cassandra | Ah - "About" says its the Windows Media Player Control. |
| 00:27:17 | Cassandra | Wonder how I can get it to go away. |
| 00:30:00 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I have no idea if the ipods would even charge whilst sleeping. If you're happy to risk your ipod, just comment out the "| CHKWAK" from line 129 of firmware/drivers/pcf50605.c - that will prevent your ipod from waking when the charger is plugged in. |
| 00:30:46 | linuxstb | But that comes with a BIG HEALTH WARNING - if you change that line, you could possibly end up with an ipod you can't wake up..... |
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| 00:33:34 | Vertigo_tdl | in rockbox for the h300 is there any way to browse music while a track is playing? |
| 00:34:09 | midkay | yes, one of the buttons. try a few.. |
| 00:34:28 | midkay | i'm 99% sure.. it's on the ipods and archoses |
| 00:34:31 | XavierGr | press navi |
| 00:34:39 | XavierGr | while you are on the WPS |
| 00:34:45 | XavierGr | then you can do prettu much anything |
| 00:35:13 | BHSPitLappy | so what major cool stuff has happened here in the last few days |
| 00:35:30 | Vertigo_tdl | hey awesome |
| 00:35:40 | Vertigo_tdl | thought i tried every button, ta :]] |
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| 00:35:49 | qwm | yawn. |
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| 00:53:46 | JdGordon | mornin all |
| 00:54:40 | XavierGr | Hi |
| 00:55:27 | JdGordon | i just saw ur message re the radio on the mailing list.. |
| 00:55:48 | JdGordon | y do u need more than 1 preset file? |
| 00:55:59 | linuxstb | For travelling... |
| 00:56:08 | XavierGr | yes |
| 00:56:14 | JdGordon | aaahh... ok that makes sense.. |
| 00:56:28 | XavierGr | I made that patch long ago. It was bound to be commited by len0x but then he left. |
| 00:57:21 | XavierGr | I like your patch too, I think both must be included though we must decide how we are going to merge them. |
| 00:57:21 | JdGordon | how about then a menu item in the radio to list all the fmrs in .rockbox/fmr folders? so u dont have to have them showing the file browser? |
| 00:57:54 | XavierGr | I searched about that solution but useing the browse function is not easy to do. |
| 00:58:31 | JdGordon | y not? |
| 00:58:36 | XavierGr | We will have to make a similar function that sees fmr files. The browse function can do that, but the outcome is that the file is shown in normal browsing too. |
| 00:58:51 | JdGordon | lemme have a play today |
| 00:59:00 | JdGordon | ooh.. forums r bak :D |
| 00:59:05 | XavierGr | My idea was to load the preset temporarily (for the current session) and fire up the radio screen. |
| 00:59:16 | XavierGr | linuxstb: what do you think? |
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| 01:00:37 | XavierGr | line 673 calls the function I say. |
| 01:00:48 | * | JdGordon didnt think of multiple preset files becuaser its 1000km between cities here :D |
| 01:01:01 | XavierGr | it will show a specific folder with a filter. |
| 01:01:22 | XavierGr | the filter must be set in line 165 of the patch |
| 01:01:37 | linuxstb | You could store the presets in .rockbox/fmpresets/ and then have a "browse presets" option in the radio menu. |
| 01:02:03 | JdGordon | thats what i was thinking... keep it all under the radio |
| 01:02:27 | XavierGr | so you mean to call the function with no filter? |
| 01:03:02 | XavierGr | like: |
| 01:03:06 | XavierGr | rockbox_browse(PRESET_PATH, SHOW_ALL; |
| 01:03:29 | XavierGr | that way if a non fmr file is in the folder it can take non-valid input. |
| 01:03:51 | JdGordon | na, still call it so it only shows .fmr... but it means that we dont need to fiddle with the filebrowser, also so u dont have unnescacery files shown in the tree |
| 01:03:52 | linuxstb | No, I think you would still need a .fmr filetype. |
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| 01:03:57 | XavierGr | also changes outside radio.c has to be done for settings. |
| 01:04:20 | XavierGr | linuxstb: that's the way it is now theb. |
| 01:04:37 | XavierGr | problem is that if I create an fmr file on root it will be shown. |
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| 01:04:46 | XavierGr | (on the supported files) |
| 01:04:48 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Why is that a problem? |
| 01:05:01 | XavierGr | what will happen if the user selects this file? |
| 01:05:18 | linuxstb | It will set it as the fm presets file. |
| 01:05:18 | XavierGr | my idea is to temporary load the preset and the radio screen |
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| 01:05:36 | XavierGr | no, fmr files must be in their specific folder as wps files |
| 01:06:03 | linuxstb | A WPS file can be anywhere - it is only remembered after a reboot if it is in .rockbox/wps/ |
| 01:06:13 | XavierGr | exactly |
| 01:06:14 | linuxstb | AFAIK |
| 01:06:22 | linuxstb | So you can do the same with .fmr files. |
| 01:06:29 | XavierGr | so yes we can temporary load the preset |
| 01:06:32 | XavierGr | but |
| 01:06:50 | XavierGr | only that will don't have a confirm for the user. |
| 01:06:59 | XavierGr | why not load the radio with the preset? |
| 01:07:55 | linuxstb | I have no objection to that. |
| 01:08:06 | linuxstb | Seems the "rockbox" thing to do. |
| 01:08:14 | XavierGr | I think that this will be more intuitive. |
| 01:08:39 | linuxstb | Or you simply display a splash saying "FM Presets loaded" when a user selects a .fmr file. |
| 01:08:41 | XavierGr | I can make a small adaptation and add that. currently on the patch it will be displayed but it will do nothing on selection |
| 01:08:46 | XavierGr | yes |
| 01:08:50 | linuxstb | Same as a user selecting a .wps |
| 01:09:01 | XavierGr | but it is a little odd IMHO. |
| 01:09:06 | XavierGr | but anyway it is your call. |
| 01:09:15 | XavierGr | let me know and I will adapt it. |
| 01:09:48 | linuxstb | Don't give me the responsibility..... I wouldn't object to either way. |
| 01:10:17 | XavierGr | JdGordon: what;s your opinion? |
| 01:10:22 | * | JdGordon thinks the browse fmr menu under the radio emnu is ebtter... |
| 01:10:36 | XavierGr | but this is already done |
| 01:10:42 | JdGordon | is it? |
| 01:10:47 | XavierGr | yes |
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| 01:11:08 | XavierGr | I am just saying what we are going to do when the user encounters an fmr file outside the radio screen. |
| 01:11:24 | XavierGr | (E.g someone puts an fmr file on root) |
| 01:11:27 | hydrahead | hey, are the display issues with greyscale iPods fixed? |
| 01:12:10 | linuxstb | hydrahead: No. |
| 01:12:10 | JdGordon | XavierGr: where is the menu in the radio? |
| 01:12:57 | XavierGr | line 764 on the patch |
| 01:12:58 | JdGordon | anyway, i tihnk settings should stay hidden in the .rockbox folder and not shown, but its not up to me |
| 01:13:06 | JdGordon | ah, ok |
| 01:13:16 | hydrahead | so there is still isn't a developer for that? :/ |
| 01:13:28 | XavierGr | JdGordon: I think you didn't understand the problem |
| 01:13:41 | JdGordon | no, i get u now |
| 01:13:42 | XavierGr | As you said the user can load a preset list from the radio menu. |
| 01:13:48 | linuxstb | The same LCD driver is used for the 3G Grayscale, and there is someone working on that. But he hasn't been around here recently. |
| 01:13:50 | * | JdGordon hasnt been awake very long :p |
| 01:14:24 | XavierGr | So what do you recomend? What should be the action if the user selects an fmr file from the browser instead of the manu? |
| 01:15:07 | JdGordon | im thinking dont touch the browser code and dont have it visible... but if u really must,. then for sure.. load the presets and start the radio |
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| 01:16:02 | XavierGr | we must make it visible else I can't open a folder to show only fmr files without a file handler "FMR" |
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| 01:17:27 | XavierGr | okay then. I can make it work that way, but someone will have to look it, and if everything is all-right with my code we can proceed with the radio.wps. (Else if my code is bad, we can procceed with your patch) |
| 01:18:04 | JdGordon | shouldnt be too hard to merge the 2 patches |
| 01:18:18 | XavierGr | yeha if it isn't hard we can make that too. |
| 01:18:30 | aegray | heh i can get funny sounds out of this |
| 01:18:36 | aegray | heh i can get funny sounds out of this |
| 01:18:40 | aegray | whoops |
| 01:18:49 | XavierGr | out of which? |
| 01:18:55 | aegray | 5g ipod |
| 01:19:21 | JdGordon | also, change the extension to fmp... wtf is fmr? |
| 01:19:43 | XavierGr | that was the filename before I started working on it. |
| 01:19:51 | XavierGr | fmr = fm radio I guess. |
| 01:19:58 | Bagder | I'd prefer .fm |
| 01:20:19 | XavierGr | that is trivial to change. but yes can decide. |
| 01:20:36 | JdGordon | Bagder: i wanna use fms for the screen ones thats done, so fmp for the presets makes sence? |
| 01:21:38 | Bagder | fms being the WPS for radio? |
| 01:21:46 | JdGordon | ye |
| 01:22:15 | JdGordon | coz it will have to be diff from wps to kill confusion because variables will be different. |
| 01:22:23 | JdGordon | possibly.. |
| 01:22:57 | Bagder | perhaps while radio screen would be more consistent |
| 01:23:14 | Bagder | but now I'll go to sleep! ;-) |
| 01:23:15 | XavierGr | yeah maybe |
| 01:23:22 | JdGordon | of course that would be the plan.. but it may not be possible.. |
| 01:23:28 | XavierGr | ok Bagder time to say moo then! :D |
| 01:23:34 | Bagder | moo |
| 01:23:39 | linuxstb | If you combined fms with the wps, then they could share data structures - e.g. using a combined set of bitmaps. |
| 01:23:46 | linuxstb | (just a thought...) |
| 01:24:33 | JdGordon | i tihnk the bitmaps code is reusable, its the text drawing code which is gonnaneed the work |
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| 01:29:26 | XavierGr | what's the uninitialized value of a bool? |
| 01:29:40 | XavierGr | or it is pure luck? |
| 01:29:44 | JdGordon | garbage? like everything? |
| 01:30:47 | XavierGr | well I need an external bool value that I must set. Best way is to declare it to radio.h |
| 01:30:59 | XavierGr | but how can I make sure that on the first run it will be false? |
| 01:31:46 | JdGordon | what do u need it for? |
| 01:32:01 | linuxstb | You just do "bool myvar = false;" whereever you define it. |
| 01:32:18 | XavierGr | can I do that on a header file? |
| 01:32:37 | linuxstb | No - you shouldn't define variables in header files. They should be in a .c file. |
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| 01:32:58 | XavierGr | and then how can I use that variable from another .c file? |
| 01:33:05 | linuxstb | So in (for example) radio.c you have "bool myvar = false;" and in radio.h you have "extern bool myvar;" |
| 01:33:12 | XavierGr | aah |
| 01:33:15 | XavierGr | okay thanks |
| 01:34:02 | Cassandra | Weird. |
| 01:34:09 | Cassandra | Finally solved my video problems. |
| 01:34:20 | linuxstb | You installed vlc? |
| 01:34:58 | Cassandra | Turns out I somehow had an old version of the WMP plugin installed. Downloading a Netscape plugin from a random MS webpage and disabling hardware acceleration seems to have fixed it. |
| 01:35:38 | Cassandra | Be nicer if there was someother plugin available to play WMV, but ... |
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| 01:36:22 | linuxstb | It would be nicer if websites didn't insist you needed a plugin, and just made the stream link easily available. |
| 01:36:55 | Cassandra | Well, yeah. That'd be ideal. |
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| 01:37:40 | linuxstb | The BBC's about the only site I've seen that does that though. |
| 01:38:50 | Cassandra | Pah. BBC's stuff sucks. |
| 01:38:55 | Cassandra | They use bloody Realmedia. |
| 01:39:04 | Cassandra | And my PC always chokes on their streams. |
| 01:39:17 | linuxstb | I just use mplayer. Works fine., |
| 01:39:28 | Cassandra | (Concievably because I'm using Real Alternative.) |
| 01:40:14 | | Part tomal |
| 01:41:55 | Cassandra | Hmm. Linux and sound - no, I don't think I can take the paine. |
| 01:42:17 | Xerion | by sound on linux is working fine :p |
| 01:42:21 | Xerion | my* |
| 01:42:33 | Cassandra | Lucky you. |
| 01:43:35 | Xerion | even in flash heh |
| 01:44:35 | Cassandra | You're hardcore. Can I be your friend? |
| 01:44:55 | preglow | haha |
| 01:45:03 | Xerion | lol |
| 01:45:04 | preglow | linux and sound is what i do for work |
| 01:45:35 | preglow | i'm comfortable with being mad |
| 01:45:40 | markun | aegray: are you working on sound for the ipod video? |
| 01:45:53 | Xerion | i didn't really need to do anything besides compiling alsa kernel modules and making sure it was started at boottime ;p |
| 01:45:59 | aegray | i'm pretending to and just stealing code from linuxstb |
| 01:46:14 | preglow | that's what you ipl people always do |
| 01:46:23 | aegray | haha |
| 01:46:23 | markun | ah :) |
| 01:46:27 | preglow | leech off of other people's hard work |
| 01:46:30 | Xerion | of course it's just in my 32 bit firefox flash works |
| 01:46:45 | aegray | yea we are bastards |
| 01:46:51 | markun | rockbox people would never leech :) |
| 01:46:56 | preglow | exactly! |
| 01:47:10 | preglow | i seriously need some sleep |
| 01:47:13 | preglow | see ya'll around |
| 01:47:18 | markun | good night then |
| 01:47:24 | aegray | nighty night |
| 01:47:27 | XavierGr | bye |
| 01:47:57 | aegray | holes from all the points of the forks |
| 01:48:05 | aegray | yea that wasn't for this channel |
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| 01:51:20 | Zoide777 | are there cygwin patches for sdl-config? I'm trying to compile the simulator but it doesn't work. neither does compiling the win32 version |
| 01:51:30 | * | Cassandra had a sick twisted idea - run the Rockbox simulator using SDL on iPodlinux. |
| 01:51:49 | JdGordon | y?? |
| 01:52:06 | linuxstb | You could run a nice Archos sim... |
| 01:52:09 | JdGordon | its like those wierdos that run cygwin under wine under cygwin under wine.... |
| 01:52:36 | linuxstb | On the 5g, you could even have background bitmap of an Ondio... |
| 01:52:44 | markun | linuxstb: tomorrow I'll try to mod my gigabeat and connect the uart to the dock and the rs323 connector to my cradle |
| 01:53:10 | XavierGr | JdGordon: Are there any people like that? |
| 01:53:20 | Cassandra | I said it was sick and twisted. |
| 01:53:35 | JdGordon | breaky time.. |
| 01:53:38 | linuxstb | markun: We're all patiently waiting for you to brick your gigabeat... |
| 01:53:41 | JdGordon | XavierGr: for testing or something.. |
| 01:53:44 | ashridah | Zoide777: in what way doesn't it work? |
| 01:53:45 | markun | :) |
| 01:54:03 | XavierGr | haha like flashing a gameboy to emulate an a gameboy. Twisted indeed |
| 01:54:11 | XavierGr | r/an |
| 01:54:33 | XavierGr | markun have faith :D |
| 01:54:38 | XavierGr | (in you of course) |
| 01:55:07 | linuxstb | An old joke, but I still like it: http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/Image/2005/12/ipod_ipl.jpg |
| 01:55:31 | XavierGr | hehe ROFLMAO |
| 01:55:34 | Cassandra | Well possibly the iPodLinux people'd find it useful. |
| 01:55:36 | Zoide777 | ashridah: the sdl compile asks for "sdl-config", while the win32 compile gives many errors in lcd-win32.c |
| 01:55:47 | Cassandra | Since they could run Rockbox without rebooting. |
| 01:56:04 | Cassandra | And I understand we kick Podzilla's arse when it comes to audio. |
| 01:56:26 | linuxstb | Only because we don't have the overhead of the linux kernel, and we use iram. |
| 01:56:39 | Zoide777 | ashridah: the errors are in lines 39, 111-114 of lcd-win32.c |
| 01:56:51 | ashridah | Zoide777: okay, have you installed the SDL libraries? |
| 01:57:08 | Zoide777 | I'm not sure which I should install |
| 01:57:18 | Cassandra | linuxstb, well, if you're going to bring reality into it ... |
| 01:57:26 | ashridah | well, chances are, you'd have to compile it, i think |
| 01:57:40 | Zoide777 | ahhh |
| 01:57:47 | Zoide777 | do i need make native or make cross? |
| 01:57:55 | ashridah | native |
| 01:58:08 | Zoide777 | and does anyone know why the win32 build doesn't work? |
| 01:58:15 | ashridah | there's no value in a cross-compiled SDL, since it's for the simulator (and it won't have any way to run on the target at any rate :) |
| 01:58:28 | ashridah | the win32 build is kinda deprecated, which platform are you building for? |
| 01:58:40 | Zoide777 | I'm running winxp |
| 01:58:41 | linuxstb | Cassandra: A better hack would to be run Linux inside a virtual ipod in Rockbox. |
| 01:58:59 | ashridah | Zoide777: no, which music player are you building for |
| 01:59:03 | Cassandra | Ewwww |
| 01:59:13 | Zoide777 | ashridah: 4g grayscale |
| 01:59:38 | ashridah | Zoide777: okay, ipod. i don't know if that's ever had a working win32 simulator, we've been moving to the SDL one. |
| 01:59:52 | Cassandra | ashridah, there's already SDL for iPodlinux. |
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| 02:00:32 | ashridah | Zoide777: anyway, wander over to www.libsdl.org, grab SDL-1.2.9.tar.gz put it someplace that you can unpack it in cygwin, and compile it using "./configure" then "make" then "make install" |
| 02:00:48 | ashridah | hopefully, that should install it in /usr/local in your cygwin environment |
| 02:01:20 | josh_ | heh. good luck. |
| 02:01:27 | josh_ | I have had nothing but trouble installing SDL in cygwin. |
| 02:01:36 | ashridah | it's worked fine for me |
| 02:01:43 | linuxstb | Zoide777: No, there isn't a win32 sim for the 4g grayscale. But you could try other sims - what do you need it for? |
| 02:01:48 | ashridah | depends, if you're using the devkit, that might make it entertaining |
| 02:01:52 | josh_ | linuxstb: *do* you have an iPod sim? |
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| 02:02:03 | josh_ | and how much does it simulate? |
| 02:02:13 | linuxstb | josh_: It's a "UI simulator" - the same thing as you running Podzilla on a PC. |
| 02:02:18 | josh_ | ah. |
| 02:02:34 | josh_ | I thought you had an armemu :-) |
| 02:03:15 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: i wanted to make a custom wps, but without having to upload it to the ipod, etc. every time i want to preview the changes |
| 02:03:30 | linuxstb | Then you can use the iriver H120/H140 sim - the LCD is identical. |
| 02:03:42 | ashridah | linuxstb: which he still needs to build :) |
| 02:03:50 | linuxstb | Yes, but there is a win32 version. |
| 02:03:54 | ashridah | true |
| 02:04:10 | Zoide777 | oh, i think i had found win32 builds on some website |
| 02:04:15 | Zoide777 | i'll just get it from there |
| 02:04:17 | Zoide777 | thanks |
| 02:05:24 | Zoide777 | (rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/) |
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| 02:09:14 | Zoide777 | stupid question: how do you "turn on" the h120 sim? all I see are the little icons at the top status bar |
| 02:09:50 | linuxstb | It is "on" - you need to copy some files into the "archos" subdirectory. |
| 02:10:31 | Zoide777 | ahhh... ok thanks |
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| 02:50:54 | midgey34 | gah, I forgot to attach the patch to sourceforge |
| 02:51:06 | midgey34 | how exactly would I go about attaching it |
| 02:53:02 | JdGordon | if u were logged in u can just add a new file when u add a comment |
| 02:53:15 | midgey34 | yah... forgot that too... |
| 02:53:27 | JdGordon | submit again then |
| 02:53:34 | midgey34 | alright |
| 02:54:42 | midgey34 | you'd think I wouldn't miss the big red writing... |
| 02:54:54 | JdGordon | na, everyone misses it :D |
| 02:55:56 | midgey34 | well, if someone wants to look at it or at least close the anonymous patch, be my guest |
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| 02:59:09 | nave7693 | hi any archos people around? |
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| 02:59:47 | JdGordon | mr impatient :D |
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| 03:03:46 | JdGordon | linuxstb: for the radio wps.. would it be "ok" to just make up fake id3 info for the radio and then use the current wps code in full? |
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| 03:08:37 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Anything that means you can reuse existing code should be good. |
| 03:08:58 | JdGordon | would it work? im thinking it will.. |
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| 03:14:05 | adamd | hey hey. I know this is veeeeeeeery off topic, but, this is the best place I can think of that I know where people will know their stuff about MP3 players. |
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| 03:14:20 | adamd | so, has anyone any idea whether this player is decent or not http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=ELEC&title=852363&p=292&g=376&pa=stgts6 |
| 03:15:00 | adamd | a friend is asking. I'd normally tell him to avoid ones that aren't well known brands [this appears to be some kind of other brand rebranded as play.com] but the deal looks alright... |
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| 03:19:00 | yeahx | if I google for easy nano rockbox installation do you think something will come up? |
| 03:19:55 | adamd | that was the most disgusting sunflower seed I've ever eaten |
| 03:20:04 | adamd | and I only realised this once it was halfway down my throat |
| 03:20:11 | adamd | yack........ yack yack yack |
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| 03:20:25 | adamd | it's vile |
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| 03:21:51 | Zoide777 | what does "Error accessing playlist control file" mean? |
| 03:22:37 | adamd | don't think he's interested in putting rockbox on it or anything, just wondering if it looked like a good player |
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| 03:35:20 | XavierGr | how can I queue commands in linux? |
| 03:35:34 | JdGordon | && ? |
| 03:35:38 | XavierGr | e.g date if successfull then echo |
| 03:36:22 | XavierGr | yup that did it thanks |
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| 03:40:08 | yeahx | oh ok |
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| 03:43:35 | ashridah | XavierGr: at |
| 03:43:40 | | Part ModernExecutive |
| 03:43:41 | ashridah | or cron, if it repeats |
| 03:43:55 | ashridah | but for most things i'd use at |
| 03:44:15 | XavierGr | sorry? |
| 03:44:22 | XavierGr | what's cron? |
| 03:44:32 | ashridah | XavierGr: cron's the command scheduler. |
| 03:44:39 | ashridah | at's the once-off command scheduler |
| 03:45:11 | ashridah | like, you type "at 4pm" and press enter, and it'll let you type commands in |
| 03:45:17 | ashridah | they just won't be attached to a shell :) |
| 03:45:31 | XavierGr | I think && suits me best. |
| 03:46:05 | midkay | does anyone here know how/want to play Mafia? :) |
| 03:46:39 | yeahx | thanks I'll just use google |
| 03:49:02 | ashridah | midkay: i played that once. i rolled the taxi after i got away from the dudes (who were easy to lose) taking a simple corner, and deleted the game |
| 03:49:45 | midkay | ashridah, .... wrong game? :)) |
| 03:50:05 | ashridah | no, pretty sure it was mafia |
| 03:50:50 | midkay | i'm talking an irc game :) |
| 03:50:57 | midkay | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(game) |
| 03:51:00 | ashridah | okay |
| 03:51:04 | ashridah | that's a different game |
| 03:51:29 | midkay | i think so, yes :) |
| 03:53:59 | XavierGr | haha |
| 03:54:17 | XavierGr | we call it "Palermo nights" here. |
| 03:54:55 | midkay | XavierGr, you know how to play? |
| 03:55:51 | XavierGr | yes, though it is a little different from the standart. |
| 03:56:08 | midkay | you should join us :) server: glowingcow.net - #thegame |
| 03:56:15 | midkay | more players = more fun :) |
| 03:56:56 | XavierGr | hehe, maybe I will drop by later, now I am programming something |
| 03:57:03 | XavierGr | how many players you are? |
| 03:57:24 | midkay | there's 11 players right now, and one is the "master" so it's ten in all |
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| 04:11:57 | Zoide777 | is there a way of placing text vertically in a wps w/ more precision than just a single line? |
| 04:12:39 | midkay | Zoide777, if it's not on the wiki WPS page, then no, I don't believe so :) |
| 04:12:48 | Rob2222 | hi all |
| 04:12:55 | XavierGr | HI |
| 04:12:57 | Rob2222 | is there audio on the video, yet? |
| 04:13:00 | XavierGr | no |
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| 04:13:05 | Rob2222 | hi XavierGr, any news from iriver? |
| 04:13:09 | XavierGr | you got an iPod Video? |
| 04:13:32 | XavierGr | Yeah they sending me the unit back. I will probably have it tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. |
| 04:13:39 | XavierGr | (I hope they fixed it ;)) |
| 04:13:48 | Rob2222 | no, but my cohabitant and cousin |
| 04:13:57 | Rob2222 | WOW |
| 04:14:01 | Rob2222 | THAT is fast, |
| 04:14:12 | XavierGr | yeah this was pretty fast. |
| 04:14:40 | XavierGr | Though they didn't clarified if they fixed it. The mail was cosy so i think they did. |
| 04:15:10 | Rob2222 | yes, why not. |
| 04:15:57 | XavierGr | They are very laconical in their answers. They type very briefly, so I don't know much details. |
| 04:16:06 | Rob2222 | well see |
| 04:18:10 | Rob2222 | are you looked at battery bench in the last version? |
| 04:18:17 | yeahx | so nano install only works on M$? |
| 04:18:50 | linuxstb | yeahx: No - read the instructions. |
| 04:19:32 | XavierGr | Rob: No, did you? |
| 04:20:16 | XavierGr | The bloody standarlised excel sheet was very difficult to make. I will try again for it the other week if I find some time. |
| 04:20:41 | Rob2222 | aha ok |
| 04:20:52 | XavierGr | linuxstb: Do you know what I will write next to make to ouput only errors and warnings? |
| 04:21:02 | Rob2222 | ill just want to implement > and < compare instead of != |
| 04:21:09 | yeahx | I only see windows instructions |
| 04:21:45 | XavierGr | Rob: The buffer is huge. Many measurements is a good thing. |
| 04:22:06 | XavierGr | Your charging discharging idea is included |
| 04:22:30 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/battery_bench.txt |
| 04:22:43 | Rob2222 | almost 40kb now |
| 04:22:51 | Rob2222 | well |
| 04:22:58 | Rob2222 | i wanna have both versions ;) |
| 04:23:10 | Rob2222 | can i rename a .rock file simply? |
| 04:27:11 | XavierGr | what's the A, U, C? |
| 04:27:41 | XavierGr | C, S, U i mean |
| 04:27:41 | Rob2222 | adapter connected, usb connected, charging |
| 04:27:53 | XavierGr | are these your changes or Bgers? |
| 04:27:59 | Rob2222 | Bg3r |
| 04:28:02 | Rob2222 | bgers |
| 04:28:22 | XavierGr | I don't get it. |
| 04:28:26 | XavierGr | C = ? |
| 04:28:47 | Rob2222 | charger connected, charging state, usb connected |
| 04:28:58 | Rob2222 | or usb charging, dont know |
| 04:29:12 | XavierGr | strange we should ask Bger |
| 04:29:25 | XavierGr | And I must update the wiki, once I learn all those. |
| 04:29:38 | Rob2222 | first 2 im sure |
| 04:29:43 | Rob2222 | see in my log |
| 04:29:49 | Rob2222 | charger connected all the time |
| 04:29:59 | Rob2222 | after some days voltage dropped |
| 04:30:06 | Rob2222 | and charger started charging |
| 04:30:17 | Zoide777 | has there been any progress with the battery on the ipod? |
| 04:30:23 | Zoide777 | (as in displaying how much is left) |
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| 04:31:17 | XavierGr | wow 181 measurements between disk activity! |
| 04:31:24 | XavierGr | Though the buffer can hold 1000 |
| 04:31:49 | XavierGr | That was a big test Rob. ~90 hours is a long time. |
| 04:32:00 | XavierGr | You managed to disalign the graph. |
| 04:32:20 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 04:32:23 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 04:32:35 | Rob2222 | the unit is unused a week or so |
| 04:32:47 | Rob2222 | cause i wanna test self discharge |
| 04:33:01 | Rob2222 | now with my mod a should get a nice little log file |
| 04:33:02 | Rob2222 | :) |
| 04:34:13 | yeahx | ok I'll just have to do it in windows |
| 04:34:19 | yeahx | thanks |
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| 04:40:42 | Zoide777 | hello? |
| 04:43:27 | XavierGr | hi |
| 04:44:12 | Zoide777 | is the progressbar supposed to be working for the 4g grayscale? |
| 04:44:25 | XavierGr | Dunno, sorry |
| 04:45:03 | Zoide777 | k.. any news on the battery display? |
| 04:45:24 | XavierGr | I think the iPod devs are not here |
| 04:45:55 | XavierGr | try at 11:00 GMT |
| 04:46:02 | XavierGr | or 12 |
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| 04:47:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: The battery display isn't really a priority I believe, so it's a matter of when someone gets around to it as I believe on a relative scale it's fairly minor to implement. |
| 04:47:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I could be wrong though |
| 04:47:51 | Rob2222 | audio on video would be nice |
| 04:47:58 | Rob2222 | aaaaah i like this phrase |
| 04:47:59 | Rob2222 | :) |
| 04:48:09 | Zoide777 | hehe, yeah |
| 04:48:44 | Zoide777 | ok, one more thing.. has anyone had luck with converting fonts to fnt? it seems from everything i search online that it's a pain to get convbdf to work |
| 04:49:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Are you having problems with it? |
| 04:49:51 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: Is there a file size limit of battery_bench.txt the plugin can handle? |
| 04:50:38 | XavierGr | no |
| 04:50:44 | XavierGr | it can handle big files |
| 04:50:50 | Rob2222 | 2GB |
| 04:50:52 | Rob2222 | ;) |
| 04:50:55 | XavierGr | ah yes |
| 04:51:22 | XavierGr | but I doubt a .txt can be so big with battery bench. |
| 04:51:33 | XavierGr | maybe if you run it for more than 4 years |
| 04:51:57 | Rob2222 | http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/battery_bench.txt <= recheck the latest version. 127h :) |
| 04:52:10 | XavierGr | man you are sick ;) |
| 04:52:39 | midkay | XavierGr, take a break and join us you bastard :) |
| 04:52:44 | Zoide777 | Paul_The_Nerd: I tried using it but it gave a segfault. I read on some forum thread this happens a lot w/ the converter |
| 04:52:59 | Rob2222 | how much measurements can be made without disc access? (usb mode) |
| 04:54:27 | XavierGr | midkay: you are on a different server. |
| 04:54:34 | midkay | XavierGr, yes? :) |
| 04:54:58 | XavierGr | which was the server again? |
| 04:55:13 | midkay | server: glowingcow.net - #thegame |
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| 05:10:38 | XavierGr | hehe that was fun |
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| 05:11:03 | godzirra | Sooo... any word on 5g ipod rockbox? =) |
| 05:11:21 | XavierGr | not yet |
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| 05:13:42 | godzirra | ahh well. figured I'd ask :) |
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| 05:45:50 | JdGordon | XavierGr: still there? |
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| 05:47:55 | XavierGr | yes |
| 05:48:05 | XavierGr | I am nearly finishing my changes. |
| 05:48:11 | JdGordon | ah cool |
| 05:48:19 | JdGordon | was about to ask that :p |
| 05:48:34 | XavierGr | (though I will have to test thoroughly something I might finish the next day) |
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| 06:22:09 | aridese | hi guys |
| 06:22:20 | BHSPitLappy | hi individual. |
| 06:22:36 | aridese | can rockbox play back 320kbps mp3's and ogg's without skipping on 3g's? |
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| 06:22:42 | aridese | hi other individual |
| 06:22:51 | BHSPitLappy | oh, 3G |
| 06:23:01 | BHSPitLappy | 3G is very new to rockbox |
| 06:23:06 | aridese | and it's not supported |
| 06:23:08 | aridese | right? |
| 06:23:08 | BHSPitLappy | you'll have to ask someone here what its status is |
| 06:23:28 | BHSPitLappy | aridese: the word 'supported' doesn't really mean what it does over in iPL... |
| 06:23:54 | aridese | ah heh |
| 06:24:16 | BHSPitLappy | but just to introduce you, preglow and linuxstb are the two iPod guys, they're brilliant and work like hosses to bring rockbox to iPod owners |
| 06:24:29 | BHSPitLappy | and slimx has been working on the 3G port |
| 06:24:37 | aridese | ah, i see |
| 06:24:59 | aridese | is rockbox based of iPL? |
| 06:25:10 | BHSPitLappy | rockbox is completely separate from iPL |
| 06:25:16 | BHSPitLappy | the projects have different goals. |
| 06:25:18 | aridese | ah |
| 06:25:38 | BHSPitLappy | rockbox has been around on the archos and other platforms for a long time, iPods are relatively a new target |
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| 06:26:13 | BHSPitLappy | but a lot of the iPod port utilized the progress iPL had made |
| 06:26:47 | aridese | yeah im reading about it now at the site, sounds good |
| 06:26:52 | aridese | but what's the goal of this project? |
| 06:27:31 | BHSPitLappy | to create an mp3 player firmware that's fully functional, isn't database-driven (drag-and-drop), and, uh |
| 06:27:33 | BHSPitLappy | just plain badass? |
| 06:27:45 | aridese | ah heh |
| 06:27:46 | dpassen1 | definitely badass |
| 06:28:16 | BHSPitLappy | iPL is just that, a linux distro on iPods :P |
| 06:28:35 | BHSPitLappy | just like on desktops, sound is there if you want it. maybe. |
| 06:29:07 | JdGordon | so rb is badass now is it? |
| 06:29:19 | JdGordon | all thanx to rockDOOM :D |
| 06:29:21 | BHSPitLappy | that's where rockbox excels over linux, it's all from scratc |
| 06:29:27 | BHSPitLappy | JdGordon: does that work now/ |
| 06:29:30 | BHSPitLappy | *? |
| 06:29:37 | JdGordon | on the h300 i tinhk so |
| 06:29:40 | BHSPitLappy | aw |
| 06:29:42 | * | BHSPitLappy waits for nano |
| 06:30:13 | aridese | ooh, is there unicode/cyrillic support in the ipod version? |
| 06:30:25 | JdGordon | ye |
| 06:30:37 | JdGordon | use the unifont font.. |
| 06:30:45 | JdGordon | umm.. i tinhk |
| 06:31:02 | * | JdGordon assumes ipod has the same unicode funcitonality as the h300 version |
| 06:31:15 | BHSPitLappy | yeh |
| 06:31:32 | aridese | ah ok |
| 06:32:49 | BHSPitLappy | do you intend to use another language? |
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| 06:34:18 | aridese | yeah most of my music is in russian |
| 06:34:20 | BHSPitLappy | ha, there's a font that gives you 24 menu entries on a nano :P |
| 06:34:35 | aridese | wow |
| 06:34:37 | BHSPitLappy | and there's still the status bar and a little space at the bottom |
| 06:34:38 | JdGordon | fark.. how damn small is it? |
| 06:34:47 | BHSPitLappy | 5 |
| 06:34:50 | BHSPitLappy | well |
| 06:34:55 | BHSPitLappy | it's called like TinyProp-5 |
| 06:35:19 | JdGordon | hahaha barely readable on the h300 |
| 06:35:34 | dpassen1 | i dont even wanna try it on my 120 |
| 06:35:52 | JdGordon | 33 lmines with that font on the h300 |
| 06:36:19 | BHSPitLappy | heh |
| 06:36:33 | aridese | anyway −− im gonna go sleep, bye all |
| 06:36:34 | BHSPitLappy | isn't it weird, that when I use a font that's as big as the ipod's normal font, it seems way to big in rockbox :P |
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| 06:37:23 | JdGordon | the ipod uses a huge font tho doesnt it? like u have 3 rows or something? |
| 06:37:29 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 06:37:33 | BHSPitLappy | 6 on the nano IIRC |
| 06:37:41 | BHSPitLappy | it uses size 12 |
| 06:37:45 | BHSPitLappy | and the 5G uses 18 |
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| 06:43:19 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 06:43:40 | Jungti1234 | http://pds2.egloos.com/pds/1/200602/13/67/a0004367_145171.jpg <- what's this? |
| 06:44:09 | JdGordon | the new 6g video maybe? |
| 06:44:10 | Jungti1234 | It has wide screen curiously. |
| 06:44:11 | dpassen1 | an artists conception |
| 06:45:16 | Jungti1234 | Rumor? Real? |
| 06:45:26 | dpassen1 | rumor |
| 06:45:30 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 06:45:41 | dpassen1 | theres a lot of mockups floating around |
| 06:45:56 | dpassen1 | though no one would be surprised if the 6G did in fact have some similarities to that |
| 06:46:07 | Jungti1234 | I saw its detailed spec. |
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| 07:02:35 | XavierGr | JdGordon: Still here? |
| 07:02:40 | JdGordon | ye |
| 07:03:28 | XavierGr | I am done with major issues. I will update the patch on the patch tracker. Want to test it? |
| 07:04:11 | JdGordon | yes.. and no |
| 07:04:24 | XavierGr | ehm? |
| 07:04:28 | JdGordon | im getting the wps going on the radio so i cant really test it atm |
| 07:04:38 | XavierGr | ah okay |
| 07:04:56 | XavierGr | is it on the final level? |
| 07:05:18 | JdGordon | no where near it... but i think its about to compile with no errors :D well the first bit |
| 07:05:35 | JdGordon | just, ive played with radio.c way too much to try adding your patch atm... |
| 07:07:27 | XavierGr | ok then I will ask tomorrow someone to see into the patch. If this is commited then you will be able to port it (and I will help) more easy. |
| 07:07:38 | JdGordon | yup |
| 07:07:50 | XavierGr | https://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=1315353 |
| 07:07:51 | JdGordon | good news :D my first changes didnt kill the wps on the mp3 screen :D |
| 07:07:56 | XavierGr | nice |
| 07:08:53 | XavierGr | oh there is a slight update problem on some splashes but I am not sure what is wrong. I am not used to the new gui functions. A refresh maybe? |
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| 07:09:57 | XavierGr | oh right in time! |
| 07:10:06 | XavierGr | Morning Bagder |
| 07:10:12 | B4gder | hey ho |
| 07:10:57 | JdGordon | is B4gder Bagder and Bg3r all the same person? |
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| 07:11:43 | BHSPitLappy | bah http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3130/ibrick3sl.jpg |
| 07:11:51 | B4gder | nah, Bagder and B4gder are, bger and Bg3r are not |
| 07:12:00 | ashridah | JdGordon: 2 out of three ain't bad |
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| 07:12:11 | JdGordon | haha ok |
| 07:12:40 | B4gder | I use one client at home and one at work, using 'a' cvs '4' in the nick |
| 07:12:42 | yeahx | alright I finaly got rockbox on the nano |
| 07:12:50 | yeahx | put the Dull laptop to good use |
| 07:13:24 | XavierGr | Bagder: Me and JdGordon are doing some modifications in radio. Unfortunately we didn't started together so we must merge too patches. I am working on mutliple fmr preset handling and he is working on FM radio while screen. I think that it would be nice to review my finished patch, and if it is valid commit it so that JdGordon has a base to start the merge. Can you do it, or if you can't inform a dev that might be able to look at it? |
| 07:13:35 | XavierGr | Sorry for the big phrase. |
| 07:14:02 | XavierGr | I will fall for sleep right now, else I would ask someone to look it |
| 07:15:10 | B4gder | I don't consider myself to be the man for that job. I never fiddled with that code, nor do I ever use the radio |
| 07:15:20 | XavierGr | okay. |
| 07:15:24 | B4gder | sorry |
| 07:15:50 | XavierGr | np, I just telling it to you if you had someone in mind... ;) |
| 07:16:15 | B4gder | just the usual bunch |
| 07:18:56 | yeahx | will there be a rockbox for shuffle you think? |
| 07:19:21 | B4gder | yeahx: if someone decides to work on that, sure |
| 07:19:33 | JdGordon | yeahx: navigation might be a pain tho |
| 07:19:41 | XavierGr | and development |
| 07:19:44 | B4gder | but I expect that to be pain involved |
| 07:19:45 | JdGordon | but.. image how sweet the wps could look :p |
| 07:19:58 | XavierGr | I can't think how could one develop on such thing |
| 07:20:05 | yeahx | just for the added formats ofcourse |
| 07:20:08 | JdGordon | is it ok to change the wps screen to show frequency in kHz now instead of Hz ? |
| 07:20:10 | aegray | linuxstb: up? |
| 07:21:09 | XavierGr | JdGordon: It is shown in Mhz at the moment |
| 07:21:14 | XavierGr | why KHz? |
| 07:21:22 | JdGordon | it is? |
| 07:21:36 | XavierGr | yeah like 91.30 |
| 07:21:40 | * | JdGordon is getting confused |
| 07:21:52 | JdGordon | noo.. not on the radio... int he mp3 wps screen |
| 07:21:59 | XavierGr | ahhh |
| 07:22:11 | XavierGr | sorry I asked because I thought you were working into it |
| 07:22:31 | JdGordon | damn, radio is in mhz? bugger... |
| 07:22:56 | JdGordon | trying to make the radio/mp3 wps work together with minimal code hacking |
| 07:23:55 | Bg3r | morning :) |
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| 07:26:52 | XavierGr | morning |
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| 07:39:41 | JdGordon | does any1 know where the wps is actually loaded? |
| 07:44:42 | Bg3r | JdGordon hm |
| 07:46:53 | Bg3r | apps/gui/gwps.c wps_data_load() ? |
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| 07:48:17 | JdGordon | umm... holy crap |
| 07:48:19 | JdGordon | its working :D |
| 07:48:39 | Bg3r | :) |
| 07:48:42 | JdGordon | hahaha.. sweeeeet :D |
| 07:48:49 | Bg3r | wps in the radio screen ? |
| 07:48:54 | JdGordon | ye |
| 07:49:08 | leftright | morning, I have a weird problem H140, It wont boot into Rockbox, it starts to load Rockbox, then the hard drive goes "clack" and it loads iriver firmaware, I have reinstalled and reflashed the bootloader it still does the same thing |
| 07:49:11 | JdGordon | and hardly any code changes :D |
| 07:49:51 | leftright | I have also reinstalled Rockbox files, still wont boot into Rockbox |
| 07:50:39 | | Part yeahx |
| 07:50:49 | JdGordon | needs work.. but its started :D |
| 07:50:56 | B4gder | leftright: and this is rockbox for the right model ? |
| 07:51:32 | leftright | ok I will reverify that, one sec |
| 07:52:34 | leftright | ah man what a twat I am, I am trying to make it work with H300 stuff, |
| 07:52:44 | leftright | thanks B4gder |
| 07:52:47 | B4gder | np |
| 07:53:35 | BHSPitLappy | what horrifying language |
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| 08:00:16 | | Part leftright |
| 08:03:28 | * | B4gder wonders when the GPLv3 question is gonna show up in Rockbox |
| 08:03:45 | aegray | NOW! |
| 08:03:54 | XavierGr | Linus Rejected it :D |
| 08:03:57 | B4gder | :-) |
| 08:03:59 | Bg3r | B4gder huh is the GPLv3 ready ? |
| 08:04:18 | B4gder | no, but there's a draft out |
| 08:04:25 | B4gder | Torvalds dismissed it |
| 08:04:29 | XavierGr | yeah |
| 08:04:30 | B4gder | for Linux |
| 08:04:40 | Bg3r | hmz... |
| 08:04:48 | Bg3r | why ? |
| 08:05:06 | B4gder | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/26/linux_torvalds_gpl/ |
| 08:05:23 | B4gder | you need to read the draft to fully grasp what they're trying to do with v3 |
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| 08:27:35 | XavierGr | does Bootlader v2 in h300 had USB bootloader mode? |
| 08:28:11 | XavierGr | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=36983 |
| 08:28:19 | XavierGr | this guy seems to have a problem... |
| 08:30:09 | Bg3r | i don't think so |
| 08:30:22 | Bg3r | see the diffs on the IriverBoot page |
| 08:30:25 | | Part LinusN |
| 08:30:31 | XavierGr | you mean it didn't had it? |
| 08:30:34 | XavierGr | ah |
| 08:30:36 | XavierGr | okay |
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| 08:32:05 | Bg3r | iirc, the bootloader USB for h300 was introduced in v5 |
| 08:35:26 | XavierGr | ha Linus you are fasr. |
| 08:35:29 | XavierGr | ^fast |
| 08:35:57 | XavierGr | I told him to open his player as a last resort and remove the HD. |
| 08:36:15 | XavierGr | I remember that default firmware can boot without a Disk |
| 08:37:12 | Bg3r | can it ? |
| 08:38:37 | XavierGr | yes I did this on my H300 before I sent it back |
| 08:38:45 | XavierGr | and the H100 can do this too. |
| 08:49:56 | Bg3r | you opened your h300 ? :) |
| 08:50:03 | Bg3r | before sending it for RMA ? |
| 08:50:18 | XavierGr | Yes how should they know I opened it? |
| 08:50:32 | XavierGr | they don't have any warranty void stickers |
| 08:50:34 | Bg3r | if u've done it correctly they shouldn't |
| 08:51:03 | XavierGr | well truth is that it wasn't a perfect fit when I reasembled it... ;p |
| 08:51:11 | Bg3r | only if you've scratched te screws |
| 08:51:21 | Bg3r | the |
| 08:51:57 | XavierGr | again, I had a bad screwdriver, I tried to split the mobo from the case but it needed lots of pressure so I gave up. |
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| 08:52:05 | XavierGr | Also, |
| 08:52:40 | XavierGr | when I tried to test the USB OTG pins with a multimeter, I broke a little piece there. (but it is nearly invisible) |
| 08:53:09 | XavierGr | (this should be my mark to see if they repaired my player or fixed it) |
| 08:53:41 | XavierGr | ^or replaced it I mean) |
| 08:55:40 | Bg3r | yep, i got it |
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| 09:05:31 | Bg3r | needleboy hi :) |
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| 09:15:11 | lamed | good day |
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| 09:25:45 | Bg3r | needleboy, morning |
| 09:25:46 | Bg3r | here ? |
| 09:29:35 | XavierGr | Oh damn it is 10:29am! |
| 09:29:57 | XavierGr | I am an all nighter >| |
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| 09:30:37 | XavierGr | I had to finish the multi-fmr preset handling. So if there is any dev vacant please look itno it. |
| 09:30:43 | XavierGr | I have to sleep! |
| 09:30:45 | XavierGr | Later all. |
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| 09:33:35 | Bg3r | nite, XavierGr |
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| 09:45:01 | ashridah | ookay. why did i just get spam from misticriver's forums in my email? |
| 09:45:09 | ashridah | i'm pretty sure i never opted in for that |
| 09:46:47 | ashridah | motherfucking. and the option to turn it off doesn't show up in the user options either |
| 09:47:54 | B4gder | I didn't get any (yet) |
| 09:49:21 | B4gder | hm that "receive email" section on MR is screwed up for me |
| 09:49:31 | ashridah | yes |
| 09:49:36 | ashridah | there are two anonymous checkboxes |
| 09:49:40 | B4gder | yes |
| 09:49:46 | B4gder | and both are checked for me |
| 09:49:48 | ashridah | i assume one of them was supposed to be the one that'll turn it off |
| 09:49:57 | B4gder | could be |
| 09:50:19 | preglow | yes, i just got it too... |
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| 09:53:31 | Bg3r | B4gder can i commit a language update by an anonymous person ? |
| 09:54:12 | preglow | just ask for a name |
| 09:54:15 | LinusN | what a funny request |
| 09:54:24 | Bg3r | LinusN not a request :) |
| 09:54:38 | Bg3r | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1429436&group_id=44306&atid=439120 <= talking about this |
| 09:54:47 | Bg3r | but there are problems with missing IDs, so.. |
| 09:54:51 | Bg3r | i'll add a comment |
| 09:55:17 | needleboy | Bg3r, I'm here... |
| 09:55:34 | safetydan | Anyone tried the X11 sim lately? Does sound work without issue? |
| 09:55:44 | * | safetydan would compile it locally but doesn't have the source at work |
| 09:55:59 | LinusN | the x11 sim will soon be deprecated |
| 09:56:13 | Bg3r | needleboy i just want to know which remote patch u're using in the recent builds |
| 09:57:34 | safetydan | LinusN, I'm aware of that but I'm curious to see if the sound still works. I can't for the life of me make the SDL sim sound work right and I'm wondering if it's something in the playback code itself |
| 09:57:57 | needleboy | Bg3r: this one: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1424403&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 09:58:06 | safetydan | Even rewriting the SDL sound code from scratch results in the same sound artefacts as the current method |
| 09:58:14 | preglow | hah |
| 09:58:15 | preglow | how nice |
| 09:58:26 | preglow | sim sound hasn ever worked well for me |
| 09:58:30 | preglow | not with sdl, not with any sim |
| 09:58:42 | B4gder | it worked for me when I added it in the x11 |
| 09:58:45 | Mikachu | now for my first field test of rockbox |
| 09:58:50 | Bg3r | needleboy 10x |
| 09:58:55 | B4gder | haven't actually tried it in a good while |
| 09:58:56 | needleboy | no prob |
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| 10:00:11 | Bg3r | B4gder any chances of moving the tracker to other site ?... |
| 10:00:28 | preglow | we'd need to make our own tracker software... |
| 10:00:36 | preglow | granted, that shouldn't be hard |
| 10:00:52 | B4gder | Bg3r: the minute we have an alternative |
| 10:01:14 | B4gder | all the existing entries are available as XML |
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| 10:01:42 | B4gder | so it would be possibly to import them into something else |
| 10:01:47 | B4gder | possible |
| 10:01:55 | Bg3r | aha... |
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| 10:02:12 | Bg3r | at least this is good |
| 10:02:28 | B4gder | the tracker pages on rockbox.org are generated from that XML export file |
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| 10:06:42 | Zagor | i think we should move to flyspray |
| 10:07:00 | Zagor | it looks pretty good, and not as complex to use as bugzilla |
| 10:07:34 | Zagor | but someone needs to write a conversion script for the existing issues |
| 10:07:42 | * | preglow nominates bagder |
| 10:07:59 | Zagor | yeah, he's not doing anything useful anyway ;-) |
| 10:08:23 | preglow | about time the bastard starting pulling his weight around here |
| 10:08:26 | B4gder | now now, that's my area of expertise. I'm very good at doing nothing |
| 10:09:01 | preglow | the sf stuff is xml, hyes? |
| 10:09:07 | Zagor | yes |
| 10:09:23 | preglow | now please, isn't this an excellent way to close all those old requests/bugs/patches? :) |
| 10:09:40 | Zagor | hehe |
| 10:09:45 | B4gder | -rw-rw-r−− 1 dast rockbox 7517418 Feb 13 06:04 export.xml |
| 10:10:15 | Zagor | looks like it includes all attachments too. that's nice. |
| 10:10:24 | B4gder | no, I think it doesn't |
| 10:10:37 | B4gder | iirc, that was what rasher found out |
| 10:10:41 | Zagor | aha |
| 10:10:49 | B4gder | he actually started (thinking) on a conversion script |
| 10:11:07 | Zagor | hmm, so we need to spider the SF site for the attachments |
| 10:11:07 | B4gder | in bugzilla there's a sample "import from XML" script |
| 10:11:26 | B4gder | Zagor: or simply add pointers to the existing entries for those cases |
| 10:12:20 | Zagor | that's an option. of course I'd prefer to be completely rid of SF. |
| 10:12:21 | B4gder | then again, if we write a XML parser for it it should be possible to extract the attachments as well I guess |
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| 10:12:38 | B4gder | I know a tool called curl that should do it ;-) |
| 10:15:34 | Bg3r | :P |
| 10:18:13 | * | linuxstb is listening to music on his ipod video... |
| 10:18:22 | B4gder | yay |
| 10:18:31 | preglow | wtf |
| 10:18:47 | preglow | i think there are a couple of people over at ipodlinux that would like to hear that |
| 10:19:03 | preglow | brb |
| 10:19:26 | Bg3r | linuxstb now comes the question: with rockbox or with orig fw ? :) |
| 10:19:30 | LinusN | linuxstb: c00000l!!! |
| 10:19:54 | * | LinusN waits for the "gentlemen" mail |
| 10:19:58 | linuxstb | Bg3r: I would hardly announce that the original firmware works as advertised :) |
| 10:20:02 | JdGordon | congrats :D |
| 10:20:06 | Bg3r | :D |
| 10:20:15 | linuxstb | We haven't figured out the clocks yet, so it's playing at about 96KHz.... |
| 10:20:24 | linuxstb | (we is aegray and myself) |
| 10:20:29 | LinusN | mickey mouse? |
| 10:20:38 | linuxstb | Yep. |
| 10:20:47 | B4gder | ah, pitch support added already! ;-P |
| 10:20:58 | linuxstb | But we finally (after going through Wolfson's entire catalogue) found a datasheet that worked. |
| 10:21:17 | B4gder | indeed an amazing progress! |
| 10:21:18 | linuxstb | But aegray got it working last night whilst I was sleeping..... |
| 10:22:48 | aegray | speaking of which - anyone know a bit about clocking + plls? |
| 10:22:57 | * | preglow points to linusn |
| 10:23:00 | * | aegray wants it working now! |
| 10:23:11 | lamed | if we'll move to a different tracker site, will you fancy the idea of letting the submitter delete his own trackers? -and I think submitting to someone else tracker will be highly convenient won't you agree? |
| 10:23:11 | aegray | preglow: you exploded - you can't point anymore |
| 10:23:19 | preglow | aegray: i'm ok again now |
| 10:23:25 | aegray | fast recovery |
| 10:23:28 | preglow | aegray: it happens |
| 10:23:37 | B4gder | lamed: I agree |
| 10:23:54 | aegray | LinusN: are you around? |
| 10:23:58 | LinusN | yup |
| 10:24:02 | aegray | hi |
| 10:24:10 | lamed | that's good, because _you_ make things happend :D |
| 10:24:59 | lamed | I'm fixing brickmania patch for h1x0. any idea where will i put it?! |
| 10:25:02 | aegray | LinusN: all the other codecs we've dealt with had a special mode that took a 24MHZ clock - this one doesn't so we have to play with the pll - but for some reason no matter what I do it seems like its 2x the speed it should be |
| 10:25:03 | preglow | aegray: so, what sheet'd you have to go after? |
| 10:25:13 | aegray | WM8983 |
| 10:25:22 | aegray | after spending several hours on that 8982 ahhahaha |
| 10:25:25 | * | aegray dumbass |
| 10:25:29 | B4gder | lamed: feel free to create a new entry, and mention which tracker entry you obsolete by doing so |
| 10:25:53 | preglow | aegray: what about doing a nice little firmware disassembly search for the pll reg addresses? |
| 10:26:24 | aegray | erm - for the pll on the wolfson we have the regs |
| 10:26:26 | aegray | and for the pp |
| 10:26:27 | aegray | :) |
| 10:26:35 | LinusN | aegray: data sheet url? |
| 10:26:38 | aegray | I just don't know what i'm doing |
| 10:26:38 | aegray | jas |
| 10:26:50 | aegray | http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8983.pdf |
| 10:26:54 | JdGordon | does any1 know the wps code? where abouts is a line figured out? i want to add a check to skip the line.. |
| 10:27:20 | aegray | page 66-71 are the interesting ones |
| 10:28:19 | lamed | B4gder: I always feel like i'm causing more havoc that way... e.g. the star game fix has a double entry, mine is the cvsed-ready version, it's there for a long long time :| |
| 10:28:47 | B4gder | lamed: that's still my best advice :-/ |
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| 10:32:34 | lamed | I need a 3rd party site that hosts files 4 free. anyone? |
| 10:35:12 | LinusN | aegray: i assume you don't know which frequency SYSCLK is? |
| 10:35:53 | aegray | see i'm confused - is SYSCLK the external clock coming in? |
| 10:37:04 | JdGordon | lamed: how long u need the file alive for? http://yousendit.com is good, but its only alive for 7 days or 15 downloads i tinhk |
| 10:37:56 | aegray | ah MCLK is the input |
| 10:38:41 | LinusN | aegray: page 70 |
| 10:39:14 | LinusN | you need to know which frequency MCLK is |
| 10:39:21 | linuxstb | aegray: I've just tried writing 0x49 to the clock gen control register (reg 0x06), and (along with 0 for SR in register 7) gives me something that sounds like 44.1KHz. |
| 10:39:21 | aegray | that one I know - 24MHZ |
| 10:39:33 | LinusN | ok, there you go |
| 10:40:08 | LinusN | now you want to generate a 44.1kHz clock by dividing it accordingly |
| 10:40:21 | preglow | what does AC_SUBST do... |
| 10:40:33 | preglow | i love things which aren't explained in big several hundred page big manuals |
| 10:41:09 | aegray | linuxstb: i was doing that but it doesn't seem like its accurate |
| 10:41:20 | B4gder | preglow: it substitutes variables with their contents |
| 10:41:33 | B4gder | @VAR@ style |
| 10:42:13 | B4gder | iirc |
| 10:42:15 | aegray | LinusN: if you look at page 66 its talking about geerating the sample rate from clocks at (12.288MHZ or 11.2896MHZ) - that would be the PLL output right? |
| 10:42:39 | linuxstb | aegray: It's good enough for me at the moment. But Rockbox (due to limitations in the iriver H1x0 and H3x0) resamples everything to 44.1KHz. So I just need 44.1KHz for audio to work. |
| 10:42:51 | aegray | ah k |
| 10:43:07 | LinusN | aegray: no, i believe that would be the typical mclk in the reference design |
| 10:43:17 | preglow | B4gder: ahh, yes, that's correct. i still haven't got the workings of this holy mess of tools very well pictured |
| 10:43:36 | LinusN | aegray: those two are very common oscillator frequencies |
| 10:43:40 | aegray | ah k - i just got really confused because of the table showing how to use the pll to output 11.29 and 12.288 |
| 10:43:43 | aegray | ok |
| 10:43:56 | aegray | so i need my pll to output 44100 |
| 10:44:31 | LinusN | hmm, wait a sec |
| 10:46:41 | LinusN | basically, you want to set the pll to output one of those frequencies |
| 10:46:56 | linuxstb | preglow: When you have time, can you look at that WM8983.pdf (aegray posted the link about 20 minutes ago) and let me know what you think of the 5-band EQ? It starts at page 43. |
| 10:47:09 | lamed | jdgordon: thanks. but it's a patch, so i'm thinking it should stay avalible for longer than that |
| 10:47:28 | JdGordon | dcc it and ill host it for ya then |
| 10:47:42 | aegray | LinusN: i'm currently doing that and setting mclkdiv and sr to what it says in that table (bottom of 66) - but its still like double time |
| 10:47:49 | aegray | lemme try something real quick |
| 10:47:50 | preglow | i can have quick look now |
| 10:47:57 | lamed | corrently, only color targets can draw transperent parts, right? |
| 10:48:29 | LinusN | lamed: currently, yes |
| 10:48:38 | lamed | 10x |
| 10:48:55 | preglow | 40mW per output channel, not too shabby |
| 10:49:45 | aegray | hmm |
| 10:49:48 | LinusN | aegray: maybe you forgot to set PLLPRESCALE correctly? |
| 10:49:54 | aegray | ah that might be it |
| 10:51:20 | preglow | linuxstb: doesn't look too bad, might very well be enough for a lot of people. it's more than i'd expect to see in a codec chip |
| 10:51:41 | linuxstb | We just need a gui for it.... |
| 10:51:47 | preglow | it's basically a subset of my eq |
| 10:52:07 | preglow | so we _could_ use the current gui, just with restricted choices of freq, q and gain |
| 10:52:17 | aegray | LinusN: perfect :) |
| 10:52:19 | aegray | thanks |
| 10:52:29 | LinusN | goodie |
| 10:52:47 | preglow | linuxstb: and perhaps just a mode setting or something |
| 10:52:54 | * | LinusN waits for the "gentlemen" mail |
| 10:53:10 | * | B4gder joins the waiting |
| 10:53:14 | aegray | is that like mail order porn? |
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| 10:54:02 | B4gder | aegray: its a long tradition of "we have sound working on a new device" mail to the mailing list |
| 10:54:12 | aegray | ah |
| 10:54:18 | aegray | how do I get on said mailing list? |
| 10:54:35 | * | aegray shutsup and searches the website |
| 10:54:39 | B4gder | http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox-dev |
| 10:55:25 | aegray | cool thhanks |
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| 11:03:30 | linuxstb | Did any read my email to the dev mailing yesterday about moving the id3.[ch] and related files into apps/ ? |
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| 11:03:42 | aegray | hi imphasing |
| 11:04:03 | B4gder | linuxstb: I read it, but I think Linus, Jens and Jrg are the men to reply |
| 11:04:05 | aegray | ouch he joins rockbox first! |
| 11:04:16 | aegray | you guys are stealing all our users with your cooler + better software! |
| 11:04:19 | aegray | not fair |
| 11:04:21 | aegray | hehe |
| 11:04:24 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 11:04:48 | LinusN | linuxstb: i read it, and i'd like it to happen |
| 11:05:44 | LinusN | time to buy an ipod video... :-) |
| 11:05:49 | aegray | heh |
| 11:06:02 | B4gder | it is indeed tempting |
| 11:06:26 | aegray | is audio for 5g checked in? |
| 11:06:44 | B4gder | LinusN: we should get the x5 going first I guess ;-) |
| 11:06:51 | linuxstb | No, I want to re-organise the audio drivers a little first. |
| 11:07:27 | * | aegray checks out rockbox for the first time |
| 11:07:38 | markun | linuxstb: do the wolfson codecs share some code or are they all completely different? |
| 11:07:45 | * | aegray copies all the code and puts it in ipl |
| 11:07:48 | aegray | :) |
| 11:07:58 | B4gder | aegray: welcome to a brighter world ;-) |
| 11:07:59 | rob- | pwd |
| 11:08:02 | aegray | haha |
| 11:08:03 | rob- | oops |
| 11:08:06 | aegray | i like my linux cave |
| 11:08:18 | aegray | i have my own little puddle in the corner |
| 11:08:39 | linuxstb | markun: We seem to have found about three "families" of chips so far - each codec in a family is register-compatible with the others. |
| 11:08:40 | spazzium | I have a floor heater in my corner. |
| 11:08:49 | B4gder | I expect the video announcement to trigger new hoards of users... |
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| 11:09:32 | markun | ... and complaints about video playback not working perhaps? |
| 11:09:45 | B4gder | hehe, of course |
| 11:09:45 | Bg3r | haha very probably |
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| 11:11:03 | aegray | linuxstb: which toolchain do you use to compile this? |
| 11:12:26 | linuxstb | We use gcc 4.02 compiled for arm-elf |
| 11:12:37 | linuxstb | (and binutils 2.16) |
| 11:12:41 | preglow | video playback might not be as hard as first imagined either |
| 11:12:48 | aegray | hmm |
| 11:12:56 | B4gder | preglow: how come? |
| 11:13:08 | preglow | if we just rip the bcm codecs out of the firmware file in our ipod installed and use the bcm as a mas like thing :) |
| 11:13:18 | aegray | preglow: not even that |
| 11:13:21 | preglow | B4gder: the firmwares for the bcm chip is stored verbatim in a fat16 image... |
| 11:13:23 | aegray | theres a whole mplayer app on the bcm |
| 11:13:26 | B4gder | aha |
| 11:13:29 | preglow | ahhahaha |
| 11:13:36 | aegray | i would imagine you just activate it |
| 11:13:44 | aegray | when did -mlong-calls come into play? |
| 11:13:54 | preglow | aegray: we have code in iram |
| 11:14:05 | aegray | i meant which toolchain version |
| 11:14:07 | preglow | aegray: which is far out of bounds for ordinary arm calls |
| 11:14:12 | preglow | *shrug* |
| 11:14:14 | linuxstb | I don't know, but it's there in 3.4 |
| 11:14:24 | preglow | i'd expect it's pretty much always been there |
| 11:14:31 | linuxstb | It's not there in 2.95 |
| 11:14:35 | preglow | long calling is a very known issue on arm |
| 11:14:36 | linuxstb | (at least, not by that name) |
| 11:14:38 | preglow | who uses 2.95... |
| 11:14:45 | linuxstb | Linux kernel people.... |
| 11:14:45 | * | aegray *cough* *cough* |
| 11:14:50 | * | preglow explodes again |
| 11:14:53 | aegray | hahahaha |
| 11:14:54 | * | B4gder faints |
| 11:15:03 | aegray | thats like 1.07 below 4.02 |
| 11:15:09 | aegray | ridiculous |
| 11:15:09 | * | preglow reassembles |
| 11:15:17 | aegray | much worse that that .2 from before |
| 11:15:19 | preglow | i thought only bsd people and completely insane loonies used 2.95 |
| 11:15:28 | * | aegray might be the latter |
| 11:15:38 | B4gder | well, to be honest the arm gcc has had serious troubles to build the kernel over the years |
| 11:15:44 | B4gder | about since 2.95 |
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| 11:15:58 | B4gder | it has been fixed in recent years though |
| 11:16:01 | preglow | code quality should have improved pretty much since then |
| 11:16:08 | aegray | hahahaha |
| 11:16:14 | aegray | it actually compiles when i use a real toolchain |
| 11:16:15 | preglow | 2.95 wasn't all that for x86, at least |
| 11:18:27 | safetydan | bah, no sound card at work... anyone kind enough to compile the current X11 sim and see if sound works? |
| 11:18:33 | safetydan | or maybe I'll just wait until I get home |
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| 11:53:30 | Membrillo | Hiya kids |
| 11:54:50 | linuxstb | Just the person... If anyone wants to test audio on a 5g, my current build is here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-5g.zip |
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| 11:56:37 | Membrillo | would do if i had my ipod on me and then had rockbox installed on it :) |
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| 11:58:50 | markun | I just added another font. Maybe we should exclude the fonts from the daily build and put them in a seperate zip if it gets too big? |
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| 12:00:00 | markun | the fonts are the same for all the targets anyway. |
| 12:00:21 | preglow | markun: that might change |
| 12:00:47 | markun | yes, it might |
| 12:01:05 | preglow | amiconn's been talking about it, i believe |
| 12:01:13 | markun | Because of the font sizes? |
| 12:01:46 | markun | Some fonts a probably not very readable on a 2" 240x320 screen.. |
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| 12:02:05 | preglow | no, to speed up font drawing |
| 12:02:13 | preglow | make them lcd dependent, i gues |
| 12:02:33 | markun | ah |
| 12:06:53 | linuxstb | We could have an "extra-fonts.zip" download. |
| 12:09:17 | markun | the helvetica font looks quite nice btw and includes cyrillic, greek and hebrew |
| 12:09:27 | linuxstb | I think the plan is to change the fonts will to store both horizontally-packed and vertically-packed bitmaps in the same file. Some targets (e.g. the h300 with an lcd remote) could make use of both formats IIUC, and others would just load whichever format they need. |
| 12:14:08 | * | linuxstb notices a post from TiMiD on the forums today... |
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| 12:31:22 | safetydan | Anybody investigating the "thump" described here http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2600.0 ? |
| 12:31:56 | B4gder | Bryant mentioned lostlogic's overhaul introducing the problem |
| 12:32:30 | safetydan | yeah that was what I found interesting |
| 12:32:40 | safetydan | it almost sounds like what I'm hearing in the SDL sim |
| 12:32:47 | B4gder | aha |
| 12:33:19 | preglow | hmm |
| 12:35:41 | preglow | well, there's a ton of info for lostlogic to follow there |
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| 13:09:40 | JdGordon | hey all |
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| 13:14:03 | JdGordon | every1 gone have they? |
| 13:14:16 | * | aegray waits for everyone to pounce |
| 13:14:33 | JdGordon | aegray: well done on the sound |
| 13:14:39 | aegray | thanks |
| 13:14:49 | aegray | i dunno if the drivers are there or not |
| 13:14:54 | aegray | hahah i suck at irssi |
| 13:15:00 | * | aegray /win 2 |
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| 13:18:39 | lamed | hey again. can someone direct me on compiling doom? - i was only trying to run make in /doom |
| 13:20:51 | preglow | have apple really announced the new video ipod themselves? |
| 13:21:01 | B4gder | I haven't seen that |
| 13:21:05 | B4gder | only that rumour thing |
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| 13:21:31 | preglow | yeah, me too |
| 13:22:30 | preglow | if they do make one, i'm willing to bet it'll be one of those dsp solutions we can't hack |
| 13:23:05 | preglow | perhaps they'll just cut out the arm altogether and go just bcm, heh |
| 13:23:20 | preglow | makes sense, the bcm does audio and video decoding on video files today |
| 13:23:28 | aegray | its a sideprocessor though |
| 13:23:32 | aegray | it requires a host |
| 13:23:39 | preglow | _requires_? |
| 13:23:44 | preglow | i can't see why it can't run alone |
| 13:23:44 | aegray | afai have read |
| 13:23:57 | aegray | its built around the idea of having a host |
| 13:23:58 | aegray | better? |
| 13:24:00 | aegray | hehe |
| 13:24:39 | preglow | i just don't get what the host has to do to keep it living |
| 13:24:49 | preglow | assuming it's got decent memory controllers and such |
| 13:25:04 | linuxstb | preglow: I was just thinking the same - afaik any new ipod is just a rumour. |
| 13:27:16 | * | lamed Would Just love some help on compiling Doom |
| 13:27:17 | Zagor | i'm guessing they don't want to put the user interface etc. in the bcm |
| 13:27:56 | preglow | and everything they've done so far really indicates they're keen on keeping their platforms similar |
| 13:28:05 | linuxstb | The bcm also doesn't include all the features of the PP chip - ATA, USB etc. |
| 13:28:15 | preglow | yeah, good point |
| 13:28:19 | B4gder | right, they can probably reuse lots of PP stuff for the GUI if they remain PP |
| 13:30:06 | B4gder | and they want that bluetooth and crap that's coming ;-) |
| 13:31:35 | preglow | ghargh |
| 13:31:57 | preglow | this reminds me to go ask the hardware guy to supply me with batteries for my bloody marvelous wireless mouse |
| 13:31:59 | preglow | may it rot in hell |
| 13:33:00 | preglow | with a vengeance! |
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| 13:55:12 | Domonoky | hm.. me is trying to get doom running in the simulator, but i have problems, the timer functions are not aviable in the Sim.. |
| 13:58:25 | JdGordon | hmm.. whyt hte heck is the wps code skipping my new check for %#?? |
| 13:59:10 | JdGordon | oh fuck |
| 13:59:15 | JdGordon | i tinhk im too tired to code |
| 13:59:19 | preglow | is it just me or is it going to be pretty hard to adapt the timer.c module when the ipod timers are specified in microseconds? |
| 13:59:21 | JdGordon | editing the wrong fucking wps |
| 13:59:25 | JdGordon | fuck fuck fuck |
| 13:59:31 | preglow | the timer intervals are specified in cycles, it seems... |
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| 14:05:40 | linuxstb | Bagder: Do you have a thumbnail image of the ipod video? |
| 14:05:54 | linuxstb | B4gder: See above... |
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| 14:18:29 | B4gder | no I don't |
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| 14:39:16 | jackinabox^ | hi all |
| 14:43:17 | B4gder | the dB whiners will haunt us for the rest of our lives |
| 14:44:10 | LinusN | B4gder: what did the post say? |
| 14:44:30 | B4gder | just an echo of the usual |
| 14:44:35 | B4gder | programmers vs users |
| 14:44:41 | B4gder | no bloat |
| 14:44:42 | B4gder | options |
| 14:44:43 | B4gder | bla bla bla |
| 14:44:49 | B4gder | programmers shouldn't design UIs |
| 14:45:40 | LinusN | sigh |
| 14:45:48 | [IDC]Dragon | my car stereo shows dB |
| 14:46:01 | LinusN | too bad you deleted it, i'd like to read it |
| 14:46:03 | ashridah | more'n just programmers shouldn't design ui's |
| 14:46:05 | [IDC]Dragon | with no option of anything else |
| 14:46:05 | B4gder | I was tempted to reply since it was unusually contradictful, but I instead cleaned it ip |
| 14:46:07 | B4gder | up |
| 14:46:26 | JdGordon | couldnt u just make the choice of showing db or "%" ? and shut every1 up |
| 14:47:00 | B4gder | LinusN: yes, sure but messages that say "I know this thread is about N but I'll instead whine about Z..." deserves getting nuked |
| 14:47:17 | LinusN | JdGordon: that would defeat the whole purpose of the dB display, imho |
| 14:47:27 | LinusN | B4gder: true |
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| 14:47:51 | jackinabox^ | guys, quick query, i have an iriver H340...if i install RB do i just unzip the folder in windows and extract the files to the root directory of the iriver or do i have to run the .exe files while the iriver is connected to the computer?? |
| 14:48:08 | JdGordon | ? some ppl want to c % so just give it to them? calc it on the fly.. so it slows them down a bit.. who cares? |
| 14:48:20 | B4gder | they don't want % necessarily |
| 14:48:30 | B4gder | they want something that isn't negative |
| 14:48:35 | linuxstb | On a nicer subject, ipod 5g audio driver is now in cvs. |
| 14:48:40 | B4gder | OF has 1-40 |
| 14:48:41 | JdGordon | heck even just allow something like a wps tag to do 100-dbval and call it quits :D |
| 14:48:59 | B4gder | linuxstb: CVS/daily builds? |
| 14:49:34 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Only irivers stop at 0db - iPods go from -73dB to +6db or -57dB to +6dB. I think Archos players go to +something as well. |
| 14:49:42 | preglow | who the bloody hell cares about the volume unit |
| 14:49:47 | JdGordon | ah |
| 14:50:03 | preglow | i thought all these people used graphical wpses anyway |
| 14:50:16 | B4gder | I thought so too |
| 14:50:26 | JdGordon | anywho.. my radio wps is coming along nicely... |
| 14:51:29 | linuxstb | B4gder: Go ahead... I'll update the installation instructions now. |
| 14:51:46 | B4gder | linuxstb: ok, I'll do it during the afternoon/evening |
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| 14:55:08 | jackinabox^ | hopefully that fixed my lag :) |
| 14:57:32 | jackinabox^ | how lagged am i? (posted at approx. 1:57pm GMT) |
| 14:57:50 | JdGordon | [00:57] jackinabox^: how lagged am i? (posted at approx. 1:57pm GMT) |
| 14:58:06 | jackinabox^ | cool, cheers gordon |
| 14:58:30 | jackinabox^ | christ it's hot here |
| 14:58:48 | JdGordon | where r ya? |
| 14:58:54 | jackinabox^ | perth |
| 14:59:25 | JdGordon | haha.. really? i saw the 1.57gmt and i assumed u were in africa or something |
| 14:59:46 | JdGordon | its like 15C here (melb) |
| 14:59:56 | jackinabox^ | nah, expressed it as GMT to allow for international chatters :) |
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| 15:01:53 | jackinabox^ | best i can do is an update at 7pm local (3 hrs ago) was just shy of 30 then |
| 15:03:30 | jackinabox^ | did my post about installing RB on my H340 come through before? |
| 15:03:37 | JdGordon | damn whoever allowed sub-conditionals in the wps... |
| 15:03:56 | JdGordon | yes |
| 15:04:01 | jackinabox^ | cool |
| 15:04:10 | JdGordon | what exe? |
| 15:04:52 | jackinabox^ | i was ASSUMING there's an exe file, was still downloading at the time |
| 15:05:06 | B4gder | the firmware patcher is an exe |
| 15:05:42 | preglow | is anyone looking at the new input codec patch? |
| 15:05:43 | linuxstb | B4gder: I've updated the installation instructions and added the bootloader binary, so the 5g is ready whenever you are. |
| 15:05:56 | linuxstb | No, but someone should... I see it was updated yesterday. |
| 15:06:15 | B4gder | jackinabox^: unzipping the file on your player puts rockbox there, but you need to put the bootloader in place too and you do that by patching a iriver h300 firmware hex file |
| 15:06:19 | jackinabox^ | i have the zip folder saved to my desktop at the moment (got it from the 'daily builds' section of the site. right spot??) |
| 15:07:19 | jackinabox^ | ok, i just installed the 1.29 J f/ware (thinking i'm in over my head suddenly) |
| 15:10:09 | JdGordon | shit.. i really should stop coding at 1am... i keep making idiot mistakes :p |
| 15:10:32 | jackinabox^ | better u than me mate :) |
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| 15:15:46 | Philip_0729 | i think there is a bug in the CVS builds.. audio is skipping on all MP3's and ogg's i suspect more as well but don't have any other types of audio files |
| 15:17:31 | B4gder | I put the ipod color pic for the video for now |
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| 15:21:18 | JdGordon | B4gder: can u change the page to estimate time left till finish instead of actual time plz? for us ppl who r too tired to figure out the timesoes... |
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| 15:22:00 | Bg3r | XavierGr ? |
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| 15:22:04 | B4gder | I can't do that easily since then I'd have to update the page all the time while building |
| 15:22:21 | B4gder | or you mean like 24mins 22 secs ? |
| 15:22:28 | JdGordon | ye |
| 15:22:38 | JdGordon | can javascript to a little countdown thingy? |
| 15:22:53 | preglow | please don't tempt him |
| 15:22:56 | B4gder | I'm sure javascript can do that, but don't expect _me_ to write it ;-) |
| 15:23:00 | preglow | start whispering "langv2" instead |
| 15:23:05 | JdGordon | haha |
| 15:23:07 | Bg3r | yep yep yep |
| 15:23:14 | Bg3r | lang v2! lang v2! :D |
| 15:23:28 | JdGordon | screw that.. just teach the world english :D |
| 15:23:30 | JdGordon | gnite all |
| 15:23:34 | markun | B4gder: buy a gigabeat and get your hands dirty :) |
| 15:23:35 | B4gder | now now, my RFID tags are calling ;-) |
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| 15:23:44 | B4gder | (ie work) |
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| 15:26:32 | * | linuxstb notices the build table is starting to look normal again... |
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| 15:27:03 | linuxstb | All it needs is some new builds to break it again |
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| 15:27:53 | Philip_0729 | grr... my H340 is still skipping it is very annoying... |
| 15:30:42 | Philip_0729 | i think it is related in some way to the cpu clock because if you go into debug and force it to stay at max... ie set boost at 2 or higher it playes fine but i don't know how badly this will effect the battery/cpu :? |
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| 15:33:04 | linuxstb | B4gder: Does the daily build for the ipod video you've put up include the audio driver commit? |
| 15:33:35 | B4gder | hm, no |
| 15:33:37 | B4gder | I'll redo it |
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| 15:34:45 | B4gder | making one with the CVS as of now |
| 15:35:49 | linuxstb | Thanks. |
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| 15:49:24 | B4gder | there redone now |
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| 15:56:35 | linuxstb | bbl |
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| 16:09:04 | ModernExecutive | msg linusn hi. how are things? |
| 16:09:14 | LinusN | fine i guess |
| 16:09:26 | ModernExecutive | :) any progress on a us firmware? |
| 16:09:49 | * | t0mas prods B4gder / Bagder |
| 16:10:11 | B4gder | hey |
| 16:10:20 | B4gder | I'm about to take off in a few minutes |
| 16:10:21 | t0mas | :D |
| 16:10:24 | t0mas | :'( |
| 16:10:35 | t0mas | fixed the rbclient account for me? |
| 16:10:35 | B4gder | what's the status on the build scripts? |
| 16:10:42 | t0mas | http://tomas.salfischberger.nl/p/rockbox/ |
| 16:10:45 | t0mas | building nice... |
| 16:11:17 | B4gder | cool |
| 16:11:21 | B4gder | I'll try to set things up in my end tonight |
| 16:11:24 | LinusN | ModernExecutive: nope, not yet |
| 16:11:31 | t0mas | ok |
| 16:11:33 | ModernExecutive | ok |
| 16:11:43 | ModernExecutive | i hadn't heard from you |
| 16:11:57 | t0mas | Bagder: if you can also setup an rbclient user on that other machine |
| 16:12:00 | ModernExecutive | so I thought not. but i hadn't seen you online for a while so I thought I'd ask |
| 16:12:09 | t0mas | and provide me with the ip to contact it on... I can do the rest of the setup |
| 16:12:15 | B4gder | t0mas: sure, but I don't have any compilers etc there so it'll take some more time |
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| 16:12:17 | Philip_0729 | i think there is an audio playback bug related in some way to the cpu clock because if you go into debug and force it to stay at max... ie set boost at 2 or higher it playes fine but if not it skips just for a fraction of a second before upping the CPU... I don't know how badly this will effect the battery/cpu :? please help |
| 16:12:29 | t0mas | B4gder: I can also set that up... |
| 16:12:45 | t0mas | normal users can compile compilers etc... only not install them in /usr/local |
| 16:12:46 | B4gder | t0mas: I think we should focus on the setup of the system first, then work on adding more servers |
| 16:13:05 | t0mas | ok |
| 16:13:15 | B4gder | t0mas: yes, I bet I can just copy the compilers from the rockbox.org one too |
| 16:13:21 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 16:13:22 | t0mas | ok |
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| 16:14:24 | preglow | ahahha |
| 16:14:24 | t0mas | B4gder: if we get it working on the 2 machines there + the ones I have now... we can always ask for more servers on the mailinglists |
| 16:14:30 | preglow | now the OTHER wireless mouse runs out of battery |
| 16:14:32 | B4gder | indeed |
| 16:14:33 | preglow | god, how i hate these things |
| 16:14:50 | B4gder | t0mas: we should also make a fine doc on how to set one up and what requirements we have on a new server |
| 16:15:02 | t0mas | that's really easy... |
| 16:15:13 | B4gder | moo-time! |
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| 16:15:18 | t0mas | ghehe |
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| 16:15:24 | preglow | does anyone know a keyboard shortcut for switching desktop? :/ |
| 16:15:27 | LinusN | i think i know where the boost audio glitch comes from |
| 16:15:33 | preglow | in gnome |
| 16:15:49 | t0mas | alt + f1 f2 etc? |
| 16:15:57 | LinusN | lostlogic's new pcm buffer code seems to boost in irq context |
| 16:16:05 | LinusN | baaaaad |
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| 16:16:39 | LinusN | that means a busy wait for up to 10ms in an irq |
| 16:16:43 | preglow | LinusN: ouch |
| 16:16:50 | preglow | t0mas: no :/ |
| 16:16:59 | LinusN | plus the boost counter is unprotected |
| 16:17:38 | t0mas | preglow: sorry, that's enlightenment |
| 16:17:40 | lostlogic | LinusN: old did too iirc |
| 16:17:46 | t0mas | haven't used gnome in a while... |
| 16:17:51 | LinusN | lostlogic: really? |
| 16:18:07 | lostlogic | LinusN: yeah −− they both trigger boost at the time of the read by the pcm DMA |
| 16:18:12 | lostlogic | LinusN: I'll find a way to change it |
| 16:18:21 | LinusN | good |
| 16:18:32 | Philip_0729 | is that good news for me :) |
| 16:20:29 | preglow | are you sure the old one did that? i think slasheri fixed something like that once |
| 16:21:55 | LinusN | preglow: i seem to remember complaining about this ealier, yes |
| 16:22:02 | lostlogic | I'll double check |
| 16:22:30 | ModernExecutive | linus: should I just send back my extra player? |
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| 16:23:06 | preglow | arghhh |
| 16:23:13 | preglow | how i bloody loathe this wireless shit |
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| 16:24:48 | lostlogic | yes, the old one definitely did it too |
| 16:25:09 | preglow | at least we now know how long it uses to lock on :-) |
| 16:25:10 | preglow | 3 ms |
| 16:26:19 | Slasheri | ah, sounds bad.. we might need to implement a new thread for the pcmbuf at some point |
| 16:26:42 | lostlogic | Slasheri: let's stay away from having more threads. |
| 16:27:20 | Slasheri | yes, as long as it's possible |
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| 16:28:25 | lostlogic | this is a cooperative system −− any problem that can be solved with threads can be solved another way, we just need to find that way ;) |
| 16:29:42 | preglow | Slasheri: tagcache? :D |
| 16:30:05 | lostlogic | asdf;lkj my workstation crashed while I was on my way to work, so I'll have to do this on the server instead :( |
| 16:30:54 | Slasheri | preglow: sorry, too busy with work right now |
| 16:34:03 | preglow | people are nagging :-) |
| 16:34:16 | Slasheri | :D |
| 16:34:18 | preglow | can't have an mp3 player without a good tag database, they say |
| 16:34:20 | preglow | shut up, i say |
| 16:34:39 | Slasheri | haha |
| 16:35:06 | Slasheri | just wait.. eventually it will be ready ;) |
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| 16:36:05 | preglow | much left before release? |
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| 16:36:57 | Musicmad | is anybody successfully building simulators on win32 with cygwin? |
| 16:37:25 | LinusN | building, yes |
| 16:38:02 | Musicmad | I'm getting some error regarding _pcm something which is undefined. Any ideas? |
| 16:38:13 | lostlogic | I think moving the boost check out to the prepare_insert (which is thread protected) also helps performance. |
| 16:38:25 | LinusN | Musicmad: did you select SDL when configuring? |
| 16:38:50 | Musicmad | LinusN: I'm afraid I don't have that option I'm using the simplified guide :( |
| 16:39:14 | Slasheri | preglow: not much.. mainly bug fixes. And the remaining features can be finished later |
| 16:39:38 | Musicmad | LinusN: hm actually I do - no I select win32 |
| 16:39:51 | LinusN | Musicmad: of course you have the option, just select SDL instead of win32 |
| 16:41:04 | Musicmad | ok sorry :) - it don't seem like I have SDL (properly) installed though.. |
| 16:43:46 | LinusN | Musicmad: devkit? |
| 16:43:52 | Musicmad | yes |
| 16:44:01 | LinusN | do a proper cygwin install instead |
| 16:44:29 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 16:44:39 | Musicmad | LinusN: yeah I know. But I never succeded with that guide. |
| 16:44:57 | LinusN | what was the problem? |
| 16:45:34 | Musicmad | it's been a while I must admit - I'll try again and report back, but some of the packages doesn't exist anymore or something. |
| 16:45:53 | LinusN | you should try it |
| 16:46:00 | Musicmad | I will |
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| 17:14:05 | preglow | linuxstb: is the entire retailos segment loaded to file? |
| 17:14:21 | preglow | damn, 6.5 megs is a bit much to waste... |
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| 17:34:15 | Musicmad | anybody knows what's wrong here: make: *** /rockbox/uisimulator/sdl: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 17:36:06 | preglow | devkit? |
| 17:37:04 | preglow | god knows |
| 17:37:04 | Musicmad | no |
| 17:37:14 | preglow | i have no idea about that cygwin stuff |
| 17:37:16 | Musicmad | trying to get a regular cygwin up and running. |
| 17:46:51 | Mikachu | i think i fixed the plugin code to only zero the bss area (or possibly some more areas if there is more than code+data and bss?) |
| 17:46:59 | Mikachu | at least it is not clearing the whole pluginbuf now |
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| 17:50:08 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-memset-bss-only.patch |
| 17:50:12 | Mikachu | does this look like it might work? |
| 17:51:10 | Mikachu | it appears to work at least |
| 17:51:23 | Mikachu | and the cube and mandelbrot plugins work, which they didn't when i just removed the full memset |
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| 17:59:11 | Musicmad | what does it take to make an sdl simulator build? I have run configure and selected sdl simulator but it still complains about no target and no makefile found. |
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| 18:05:16 | markun | Musicmad: well, did it create a makefile? |
| 18:05:46 | Musicmad | yes in my sim folder |
| 18:06:14 | Musicmad | I think that maybe it expects a makefile in the uisimulator/sdl folder too? |
| 18:06:52 | Mikachu | hm, maybe not 100% correct... i only get whitenoise when looking at jpegs now :) |
| 18:07:05 | lostlogic | do you have libsdl? do you have the whole rockbox-dev cvs module? |
| 18:07:31 | Musicmad | lostlogic: I got all the modules in the list yes. |
| 18:07:52 | Musicmad | I'll try again though. |
| 18:08:08 | markun | and if you type 'make' it can't find the makefile? |
| 18:08:14 | Mikachu | shutdown on holding play is a bit annoying when scrolling down in a jpeg... |
| 18:08:40 | Musicmad | markun: it finds _that_ makefile and runs it I think, but then it looks for another makefile. |
| 18:10:27 | markun | you don't have a makefile in uisimulator/sdl? It should be there |
| 18:10:42 | Musicmad | actually I don't have the sdl folder there no. |
| 18:10:58 | markun | then that's your problem |
| 18:11:02 | Musicmad | yup :) |
| 18:11:26 | markun | update the source, it should work fine |
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| 18:11:39 | lostlogic | let me know if anyone has a problem with low_latency mode skipping even more than it used to with my couple of recent pcmbuf commits. |
| 18:11:42 | Musicmad | thanks - updating now. |
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| 18:24:15 | Musicmad | that got me a little further: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 18:24:15 | Musicmad | make[1]: *** [/rockbox-devel/sim/sim/button.o] Error 1 |
| 18:29:32 | t0mas | on cygwin? |
| 18:29:37 | t0mas | type: echo $PATH |
| 18:30:02 | Musicmad | t0mas: yeah seems to be a path problem. |
| 18:30:06 | Musicmad | cygwin yes. |
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| 18:32:24 | Musicmad | t0mas: do I need to point to the cc1.exe folder in the path? |
| 18:32:33 | t0mas | what is the path? |
| 18:32:57 | t0mas | and are you using the devkit? or full cygwin? |
| 18:33:02 | Musicmad | full cygwin |
| 18:33:06 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 18:33:18 | t0mas | I assume you have installed the crosscompilers yourself? |
| 18:33:19 | Musicmad | this is part of my path: PATH='/opt/m68k/libexec/gcc/m68k-elf/3.4.5:/opt/m68k/bin:/usr |
| 18:33:36 | Musicmad | erhm - got those from the rockbox mirror. |
| 18:33:48 | t0mas | and what was the output of the configure script? |
| 18:33:53 | t0mas | last line? |
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| 18:34:45 | Musicmad | Cygwin host detected |
| 18:34:45 | Musicmad | Enabled PCM sound playback in simulator |
| 18:34:45 | Musicmad | Simulator environment deemed little endian |
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| 18:34:45 | Musicmad | sub directory archos already present |
| 18:34:45 | Musicmad | Using gcc 3.4.4 (304) |
| 18:34:45 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 18:34:45 | Musicmad | Created Makefile |
| 18:34:54 | Musicmad | when configuring sdl sim. |
| 18:35:03 | t0mas | ok, so it did find the gcc command... |
| 18:35:21 | Musicmad | I have added the path to cc1.exe in above. |
| 18:35:31 | t0mas | ok |
| 18:35:36 | t0mas | mkdir build |
| 18:35:37 | t0mas | cd build |
| 18:35:38 | t0mas | make |
| 18:35:41 | Musicmad | cc1: error: invalid option `no-cygwin' |
| 18:35:41 | Musicmad | cc1: error: invalid option `tune=pentiumpro' |
| 18:35:41 | Musicmad | make[1]: *** [/rockbox-devel/sim/sim/button.o] Error 1 |
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| 18:35:57 | t0mas | hm... |
| 18:36:29 | Musicmad | I can make a regular build just fine |
| 18:36:44 | t0mas | weird |
| 18:36:50 | t0mas | I haven't buidl sims in a long time.. |
| 18:37:14 | t0mas | which one is it? |
| 18:37:38 | Musicmad | iriver 120 |
| 18:37:57 | t0mas | sdl? |
| 18:38:00 | Musicmad | yes |
| 18:38:44 | t0mas | is that one sdl ready? |
| 18:39:01 | t0mas | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml <−− it's still SDL here |
| 18:39:03 | t0mas | erm |
| 18:39:05 | Musicmad | I don't know really. |
| 18:39:06 | t0mas | sorry win32 here |
| 18:39:16 | Musicmad | ok will try a win32 |
| 18:40:30 | t0mas | I can just send you a win32 copy from the buildsystem... |
| 18:40:34 | t0mas | have it here anyway |
| 18:43:37 | Musicmad | thanks but I was going to code a little bit myself. |
| 18:43:44 | Musicmad | win32 version says the same error btw. |
| 18:43:50 | t0mas | weird |
| 18:43:58 | t0mas | it's building fine here... but that's not in cygwin |
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| 18:44:11 | Musicmad | that's why it accepts the "no-cygwin" option? |
| 18:44:28 | t0mas | it might |
| 18:44:46 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 18:45:04 | t0mas | if you need the CVS version of the sim for win32... |
| 18:45:05 | t0mas | http://tomas.salfischberger.nl/p/rockbox/H120-simwin32-CVS-20060201-1656.zip |
| 18:45:07 | t0mas | download it there |
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| 18:45:25 | Musicmad | thanks |
| 18:45:29 | lostlogic | so, waht was the symptom of boosting from inside the interrupt in the pcmbuf that I was fixing? |
| 18:45:48 | t0mas | lostlogic: it was too long in the interrupt handler? |
| 18:46:01 | t0mas | and that makes everything else hang? |
| 18:46:16 | lostlogic | right, but what was the symptom of this behaviour? |
| 18:46:50 | ghode|afk | does the EQ work with the ipod 5g? |
| 18:47:11 | lostlogic | eq is not platform specific, if it works on any ARM player, it works on 5g |
| 18:47:44 | t0mas | lostlogic: [16:15:29] <LinusN> i think i know where the boost audio glitch comes from |
| 18:47:52 | ghode|afk | hmm thought it was iriver only |
| 18:48:01 | t0mas | was that the symptom? |
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| 18:48:08 | ghode|afk | so does it work on the other arm targets? |
| 18:48:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | When there are other arm targets, it should I guess. |
| 18:48:25 | lostlogic | ghode|afk: not sure, preglow would know |
| 18:48:43 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: all ipods are arm, I thought the EQ worked on some ipods, which would imply all ipods |
| 18:48:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: There's a thread about a thump during playback in the forums, that occurs when boost is triggered. Could that be it? |
| 18:48:54 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: mayhaps |
| 18:49:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: I thought ghode was asking about non-iPod arm targets. |
| 18:49:16 | webguest11 | hi people . first congratulation to the rockbox team for their works |
| 18:49:49 | ghode|afk | Paul_The_Nerd: you have a nano right? does the eq work for you? :P |
| 18:50:17 | markun | ghode|afk: can't you try it yourself? |
| 18:50:33 | markun | or ar you asking for a friend with a 5g ipod? |
| 18:50:42 | ghode|afk | i have neither |
| 18:50:49 | webguest11 | now i m proud that my iriver load as fast as Ipod :-) |
| 18:50:52 | ghode|afk | but i have a 5g coming tomorrow and i am curious... |
| 18:51:05 | webguest11 | so is anibody knows which coloured themes i coud use for my irirver ? |
| 18:51:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | ghode|afk: Absolutely works for me. I don't use it, but I tested it out. |
| 18:51:20 | ghode|afk | ok thanks, all i needed |
| 18:51:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are arm and m68k equaliser routines so far, I believe. |
| 18:51:58 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: that's what I thought |
| 18:52:16 | markun | webguest11: there are some WPS threads in MR I think |
| 18:52:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest11: If you go to www.misticriver.com there are several threads relating to color themes for iRiver H300 series. |
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| 18:52:40 | webguest11 | thanks paul the nerd i m trying it now |
| 18:52:59 | Mikachu | are there any threads about nano color themes? |
| 18:53:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Misticriver is an iRiver fan site. |
| 18:54:10 | Mikachu | ah, possibly not then |
| 18:54:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | The h300 themes can be used on 4g colors. The h100 themes can be used on B&W ipods, I believe. But I don't know anywhere that people are making them for Nano or 5g yet, as their resolutions aren't the same as any older targets. |
| 18:55:42 | Rob2222_ | wohoooo Audio on Video |
| 18:55:51 | Rob2222_ | Well done! |
| 18:55:53 | Mikachu | yeah |
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| 18:59:17 | Rob2222 | i still have the problem on the 5g that the bootloader doesnt recognizes the pressed button |
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| 19:01:03 | ghode|afk | is this all the time? |
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| 19:08:46 | linuxstb | preglow: What did you mean with this question? "linuxstb: is the entire retailos segment loaded to file?" |
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| 19:09:04 | preglow | "to memory" is what i meant |
| 19:09:11 | linuxstb | Rob2222: You have to press it before the apple logo appears. |
| 19:09:13 | preglow | and i just wanted to know if all five megs are resident in ram at all times |
| 19:09:50 | linuxstb | Well, the flash bootloader loads it all to RAM - that's why Rockbox takes 3-4 seconds longer than it should to boot on my 4G. |
| 19:10:16 | linuxstb | So I can only assume it stays there... |
| 19:10:22 | preglow | hehe |
| 19:10:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm thinking it might not |
| 19:10:39 | preglow | how does rockbox handle on the 5g at the moment, btw? |
| 19:10:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, if it stayed there, when it loads from FAT32 it should still work fine, right? |
| 19:10:43 | preglow | any more sluggish than on 4g? |
| 19:10:58 | linuxstb | The 4g is a dream compared to the 5g... |
| 19:11:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | But if you try loading it from the FAT32 partition it has problems as soon as it tries certain things (specifically audio or USB mode) which could be consistent from if it were trying to load the codecs or otherwise from the hidden partition when they aren't there any more. |
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| 19:11:41 | linuxstb | The 5g without music is similar to the 4g with music. |
| 19:11:47 | preglow | ahahahah |
| 19:11:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ouch |
| 19:11:54 | preglow | i think it needs an asm driver |
| 19:11:57 | preglow | for the lcd, that is |
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| 19:12:01 | linuxstb | Well, not quite that bad, but it's not speedy |
| 19:12:14 | BHSPitLappy | has the 5g implemented audio yet in rb? |
| 19:12:27 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 19:12:35 | BHSPitLappy | sorry for cluelessness, I'm over VNC atm :/ |
| 19:13:05 | BHSPitLappy | great job btw linuxstb |
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| 19:14:21 | Musicmad | anybody knows something about this: cc1: error: invalid option `no-cygwin' |
| 19:15:12 | Rob2222 | Bagder are you there? |
| 19:15:52 | preglow | anyone know of any shn and alac files on the web somewhere? |
| 19:15:56 | preglow | i need to test my accuracy stuff |
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| 19:18:45 | linuxstb | preglow: I can upload some alac. Shorten is relatively easy to find at http://www.archive.org/audio/etree.php |
| 19:20:19 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i attempted to make plugin.c only memset part of the plugin mem, and it seems to work, but the modified jpeg plugin only displays garbage for some pictures now |
| 19:20:37 | lostlogic | h3x0 and 5g seem like they need some different kind of LCD handling to deal with the bloody huge framebuffers |
| 19:21:03 | linuxstb | Mikachu: The jpeg plugin will use the rest of the plugin buffer - maybe the jpeg code relies on the contents of that buffer being zero. |
| 19:21:33 | linuxstb | i.e. it calls the get_plugin_buffer() function (or whateve it is called) to get a pointer to the usused part of the buffer. |
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| 19:22:44 | Mikachu | well, what i think is strange is that it will happily use the audio buffer without clearing it first |
| 19:22:49 | Musicmad | t0mas: seems my path was pointing to the wrong cc1.exe |
| 19:23:07 | preglow | linuxstb: any way to browse by format there? |
| 19:23:38 | linuxstb | Don't think so - try searching for "shorten" or shn |
| 19:24:05 | linuxstb | The older the show the more likely it is to be shn. |
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| 19:25:10 | Mikachu | heh, i can only boot apple firmware with my left hand for some reason |
| 19:25:51 | preglow | ah, shorten can't seek |
| 19:25:52 | dpassen2 | Gotta learn to be ambidextrous |
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| 19:26:04 | Mikachu | maybe the bootloader doesn't ignore wheel events... |
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| 19:28:04 | XavierGr | Someone just told me a very annoying situation. |
| 19:28:40 | XavierGr | He accidentally loaded the battery test. He waited, waited, waited, and the "BAM" a ver loud sound appeared when the plugin exited. |
| 19:28:58 | Mikachu | XavierGr: do you know if the jpeg viewer assumes the buffers are zeroed? |
| 19:29:28 | XavierGr | His ears are eaching form that load BOOM. Does anyone know the casue of this? |
| 19:29:48 | XavierGr | Mikachu: I am not sure. |
| 19:29:58 | Mikachu | someone mentioned cpu boost causing a sound before |
| 19:30:12 | XavierGr | There is some aligning for the data but I can't be sure, because I don't know much on the subject. |
| 19:30:17 | Mikachu | XavierGr: when i have my 20MB buffer and only clear the bss part, i get corrupt image data |
| 19:30:21 | Mikachu | okay |
| 19:30:49 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Which player? |
| 19:30:59 | XavierGr | H300 |
| 19:31:39 | XavierGr | also the static "hiss" of the player increased during operation of the plugin. |
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| 19:35:07 | XavierGr | safetydan does the sim playback work okay now? |
| 19:39:03 | Mikachu | hrm, even if i memset the whole buffer from inside the plugin it doesn't work |
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| 19:41:59 | safetydan | XavierGr, I'm about to find out |
| 19:42:16 | Bger | XavierGr hm... |
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| 19:42:45 | Bger | afk |
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| 19:42:49 | preglow | lostlogics change shouldn't change anything for you |
| 19:42:49 | preglow | i think |
| 19:43:06 | safetydan | shouldn't and doesn't |
| 19:43:36 | safetydan | I thought the wrapping bug might have helped but no |
| 19:43:40 | safetydan | still pops every second |
| 19:43:55 | safetydan | still, it's usable for me under Linux |
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| 19:44:18 | preglow | do you have the audio thread debug screen in the sim? |
| 19:44:45 | safetydan | Now that is a good question |
| 19:45:13 | preglow | can't see any reason why not |
| 19:45:19 | safetydan | Apparently not |
| 19:45:23 | preglow | should be a nice place to see if the pops coincides with anything |
| 19:45:25 | safetydan | would be useful though |
| 19:45:30 | safetydan | something else to hack on |
| 19:45:51 | safetydan | but first, time to add Yet Another Option |
| 19:46:51 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Are you sure you haven't broken anything else? Have you tried restoring the original memset to see if that fixes it? |
| 19:47:19 | Mikachu | yeah, but i'll check again to be sure |
| 19:47:53 | linuxstb | safetydan: Are your sim changes in CVS yet? |
| 19:48:30 | safetydan | linuxstb, no |
| 19:49:14 | Mikachu | actually no |
| 19:49:14 | safetydan | Need to update the x11 and win32 sims to keep them compiling for the moment |
| 19:49:30 | linuxstb | Is there a "simulator audio" thread which writes the actual data to /dev/dsp (or however it works) ? |
| 19:50:16 | safetydan | In my version it now works very much like the actual hardware |
| 19:50:41 | safetydan | the actual playback code is the same as on target, but the DMA is replaced with an SDL audio callback which copies the pcm buffer to the sound card |
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| 19:51:17 | safetydan | well, not the same, but the idea is similar |
| 19:51:24 | bluey | there is Audio Support for 5G ? |
| 19:51:39 | preglow | bluey: yes |
| 19:51:41 | yeahx | can someone recommend a good freeware vorbis encoder for M$? |
| 19:51:42 | XavierGr | yes |
| 19:51:48 | preglow | yeahx: oggdrop |
| 19:51:59 | bluey | great :) |
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| 19:52:15 | bluey | gonna take a look at it |
| 19:52:28 | XavierGr | dbpoweramp but i dont know if it is any good |
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| 19:53:13 | yeahx | oggdrop is on windows too? cool thanks |
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| 19:53:34 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: Do you know how often the code in battery_bench.c will be executed? |
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| 19:56:28 | XavierGr | it sleeps every time the code is executed for "HS spind down time -1" |
| 19:56:42 | XavierGr | Rob: The code is executed alwasy. It is a thread. |
| 19:57:03 | Rob2222 | so enought times per second? |
| 19:57:26 | XavierGr | no it is not executed per second |
| 19:57:55 | XavierGr | it is executed once. then it sleeps for HD spindown -1 secs and then it is executed again. Then it sleeps again and so on. |
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| 19:58:29 | Bger | what are the "symptoms" ? |
| 19:58:34 | bot47 | hi |
| 19:58:39 | Rob2222 | so the thread sleeps for ((HD spindown)-1) seconds? |
| 19:58:47 | Bger | yep |
| 19:58:48 | Bger | iirc |
| 19:58:49 | XavierGr | yes |
| 19:59:08 | XavierGr | Bger I wanted to ask you about the latest changes in battery_bench |
| 19:59:13 | XavierGr | what's the 3 left columns? |
| 19:59:21 | XavierGr | Rob: link of your latest bench? |
| 19:59:33 | XavierGr | ^right columns I mean |
| 19:59:45 | Bger | sec |
| 19:59:46 | bot47 | Do you know if there's a way to install both iPod Linux and RockBox on your (guess what)? |
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| 20:01:06 | preglow | sure |
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| 20:01:27 | bot47 | Sure for who? |
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| 20:01:34 | Rob2222 | http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/battery_bench.txt |
| 20:01:51 | Bger | XavierGr was the hiss with our plugin or with the old one |
| 20:02:10 | XavierGr | with the old one. Battery Test |
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| 20:02:16 | Bger | ah, okay :) |
| 20:02:33 | Rob2222 | if(((last_voltage < (current_voltage=rb->battery_voltage())) && BIT_CHARGING) || |
| 20:02:33 | Rob2222 | ((last_voltage > (current_voltage=rb->battery_voltage())) && !BIT_CHARGING) |
| 20:02:37 | XavierGr | Bger: Can you explain the C:, S:, U: columns? |
| 20:02:52 | Rob2222 | Bger: , XavierGr, do you know whats wrong there? |
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| 20:02:55 | linuxstb | bot47: Yes, you can install both ipodlinux and Rockbox on the same ipod, but you need to know what you're doing. |
| 20:03:08 | seffy | hi , someone can recommand me a version of rockbox to iriver h320 that really work and have good bat life and with Ipod COLOR wps... |
| 20:03:08 | seffy | ? |
| 20:03:11 | XavierGr | Rob what's wrong? |
| 20:03:17 | Bger | XavierGr i can, but it's strange |
| 20:03:21 | Bger | C: - Charger |
| 20:03:27 | Bger | S (state) - Charging or not |
| 20:03:39 | Bger | U: USB powered .. |
| 20:03:59 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: I only stores one measurement per voltage level. this works while charging, but doesnt work while discharging |
| 20:04:04 | Bger | C is whether the charger is inserted or not |
| 20:04:23 | Rob2222 | I said that but he didnt believe me ;) |
| 20:04:26 | XavierGr | And the values for the columns? |
| 20:04:43 | XavierGr | Rob: I believed you I just was confused |
| 20:04:54 | Rob2222 | hehe just kidding ;) |
| 20:04:56 | seffy | hi , someone can recommand me a version of rockbox to iriver h320 that really work and have good bat life and with Ipod COLOR wps... |
| 20:04:59 | seffy | ? plz... |
| 20:05:24 | XavierGr | good bat life? |
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| 20:05:38 | Rob2222 | seffy: There is no Rb with iriver-fw battery life, yet |
| 20:05:41 | XavierGr | that's nearly the same for all Rockbox builds (on a target) |
| 20:06:12 | seffy | what do you mean ? |
| 20:06:16 | Bger | Rob2222 |
| 20:06:18 | Bger | so |
| 20:06:27 | Bger | u've runned rb with charger inserted ? |
| 20:06:28 | seffy | how much it last ? |
| 20:06:30 | Bger | in the beginning |
| 20:06:46 | Rob2222 | yep |
| 20:06:58 | Rob2222 | wanna check the self discharge of the bettry |
| 20:07:00 | Rob2222 | battery |
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| 20:07:08 | Rob2222 | and how often it will be recharged |
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| 20:07:19 | Rob2222 | but i would like to have a shorter log for that |
| 20:07:33 | seffy | 10x |
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| 20:07:40 | Rob2222 | cause of that i changed the != trigger to > and < depending on charging state |
| 20:07:49 | Rob2222 | but it is only working half |
| 20:08:41 | Bger | is this with a modified version ? |
| 20:08:51 | Rob2222 | no, this log there is original |
| 20:09:25 | XavierGr | Bger he wants to change the way measurements are cpatured |
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| 20:09:42 | Rob2222 | http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/battery_bench_mod.txt <= this is modded |
| 20:09:53 | Bger | so the charging chip started to charge the battery when the voltage fell under 4.05V |
| 20:10:02 | Rob2222 | looks like it |
| 20:10:09 | XavierGr | instead of different voltage (that we check) he wants to take a measurement when the voltage is greater or lesser than. |
| 20:10:28 | Rob2222 | wanna take more tests, but the plugin isnt running like i want |
| 20:10:53 | XavierGr | Bger, did you saw my PM? |
| 20:10:57 | Bger | Rob2222 how do you want it ? |
| 20:11:11 | Bger | XavierGr if u've "sent" it to Bg3r, i didn't |
| 20:11:13 | Rob2222 | [20:07] Rob2222: cause of that i changed the != trigger to > and < depending on charging state |
| 20:11:38 | Rob2222 | if(((last_voltage < (current_voltage=rb->battery_voltage())) && BIT_CHARGING) || |
| 20:11:38 | Rob2222 | ((last_voltage > (current_voltage=rb->battery_voltage())) && !BIT_CHARGING) |
| 20:11:41 | hands0me | Hello :-) several hours ago I've trayed Nano Rockbox and trying to change track to next by pressing button results in crackling sound between tracks. That is happening only while playing OGGs . In particular after resetting, shutdown and power on the player. Not with wavpack or mp3. Is that normal behaviour? :-) |
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| 20:12:04 | hands0me | sorry for that long message :-) |
| 20:12:14 | Rob2222 | Bger: But as you see in the mod log, it doesnt take measurements when the voltage falls. only while it is rising |
| 20:13:15 | Bger | Rob2222 what do you want to achieve? |
| 20:13:34 | XavierGr | he wants fewer measurements |
| 20:13:45 | XavierGr | because != takes many measurements instead of <> |
| 20:13:58 | linuxstb | hands0me: Do you have the equaliser enabled? |
| 20:13:58 | Rob2222 | exact |
| 20:14:07 | XavierGr | but I am against it. The buffer is big enough to hold as many. He just want to mod his plugin. |
| 20:14:08 | hands0me | no |
| 20:14:18 | Bger | maybe you want to check the diff |
| 20:14:19 | hands0me | linuxstb: no, disabled |
| 20:14:23 | Bger | like |
| 20:14:24 | Rob2222 | i dont want 4.09 4.10 4.09 4.10 4.09 to be teaken as more measurements |
| 20:14:25 | Bger | sec |
| 20:14:37 | linuxstb | hands0me: What bitrate are your vorbis files? |
| 20:14:48 | hands0me | about 90-140kbps |
| 20:15:04 | hands0me | this happens only at first runnig after resetting ipod |
| 20:15:13 | hands0me | and only after pressing next button |
| 20:15:17 | Bger | if( abs(last_voltage - current_voltage=rb->battery_voltage()) < MIN_THRESHOLD) |
| 20:15:26 | hands0me | previous is ok |
| 20:15:41 | Musicmad | will the fun ever end: LD rockboxui.exe |
| 20:15:46 | Musicmad | any ideas :) |
| 20:16:02 | linuxstb | hands0me: OK, thanks. I'll add it to the list of things to look at :) |
| 20:16:13 | hands0me | ok thank you!! |
| 20:16:15 | hands0me | :-D |
| 20:16:41 | Rob2222 | hmm |
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| 20:17:13 | Rob2222 | bger: sounds complicated |
| 20:17:26 | Bger | Rob2222 not so much |
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| 20:17:51 | Bger | okay, just a sec |
| 20:18:02 | hands0me | linuxstd: I've described this in this thread on forum: |
| 20:18:04 | hands0me | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2591.0 |
| 20:19:53 | hands0me | that was several days ago, but today I've checked newer build and problem still exists for me |
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| 20:22:30 | Mikachu | linuxstb: you're going to laugh at me now... it works when i remove my -Os ;) |
| 20:23:18 | _FireFly_ | Mikachu: haha ;) |
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| 20:25:44 | Mikachu | but now rockbox.ipod is 20kB larger :( |
| 20:26:37 | preglow | Mikachu: don't use -Os |
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| 20:27:36 | Mikachu | i only meant to test it, but then i apparently forgot about it |
| 20:27:47 | Mikachu | it would have been the first thing i reverted if i had remembered it |
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| 20:27:57 | Mikachu | but this means my change to plugin.c works fine |
| 20:28:07 | preglow | i've tested all the changed codecs, but if someone's in a position to test any files they have further, please do so |
| 20:28:19 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-memset-bss-only-v2.patch |
| 20:28:25 | Xerion | CC calculator.c |
| 20:28:26 | Xerion | calculator.c: In function `transcendFunc': |
| 20:28:26 | Xerion | calculator.c:529: internal compiler error: in do_SUBST, at combine.c:447 |
| 20:28:27 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Xerion |
| 20:28:27 | Xerion | wtf :p |
| 20:28:31 | Mikachu | i'll add it to the patches tracker then |
| 20:28:41 | Mikachu | unless you feel like applying it right away of course |
| 20:28:44 | preglow | Xerion: are you using any special compiler flags... |
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| 20:28:50 | Xerion | might be :p |
| 20:28:53 | Mikachu | it does make loading plugins notably faster even with the default 512kB size |
| 20:28:54 | preglow | Xerion: yes... |
| 20:29:18 | preglow | rockbox seems to trigger the wildest compiler bugs when you experiment with those too much |
| 20:29:37 | _FireFly_ | Xerion: what does say echo $CFLAGS |
| 20:29:44 | Mikachu | Os turns off some alignments too, i can imagine why it broke |
| 20:29:51 | Xerion | hehe i finally managed to get a working crosscompiler using crossdev on gentoo :p |
| 20:29:55 | Mikachu | i had to add -fno-optimize-sibling-calls just to get it to compile |
| 20:30:07 | Xerion | so it's using the flags in my make.conf probably |
| 20:30:15 | Xerion | although |
| 20:30:16 | Mikachu | is this kernel or plugins? |
| 20:30:20 | Xerion | it shouldn't.. |
| 20:30:28 | Mikachu | or application |
| 20:32:12 | LinusN | Mikachu: maybe it would be better for the plugin to clear the bss section |
| 20:32:46 | Mikachu | then you'd have to change all plugins? |
| 20:32:49 | LinusN | as the plugin loader doesn't know how large it is |
| 20:32:59 | Mikachu | it does.. |
| 20:33:25 | lostlogic | LinusN: did making pcmbuf not boost in interrupt fix the issue it was supposed to fix? |
| 20:33:37 | Mikachu | i clear up to the end_addr minus the part where the plugin code is already loaded |
| 20:33:38 | LinusN | lostlogic: i don't know :-) |
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| 20:34:01 | LinusN | Mikachu: not all plugins use a bss section that big |
| 20:34:16 | lostlogic | LinusN: what was it supposed to fix? someone said it was a bumping noise during boosting, but that didn't seem right... |
| 20:34:51 | Mikachu | LinusN: this is still an improvement.. |
| 20:34:53 | LinusN | lostlogic: i can imagine that the boosting could cause a "pop" |
| 20:35:01 | Mikachu | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1430909&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 20:35:06 | LinusN | since it busy waits for up to 10ms |
| 20:36:08 | Musicmad | LinusN: still struggeling with the cygwin setup. Do you know what "cannot find -lgcc" might be? |
| 20:36:35 | Mikachu | i'm not saying i know anything about how this works, but all plugins work fine with this change |
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| 20:36:43 | Mikachu | and load faster |
| 20:37:32 | LinusN | Musicmad: i'm surprised that you have such problems |
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| 20:37:57 | Mikachu | it sounds like his gcc installation is confused about where it's installed |
| 20:38:42 | Musicmad | the first error I got was that it coulnd't find cc1.exe - then I included that path, but maybe I pointed to the wrong one. |
| 20:39:31 | Musicmad | don't know if this is the right cc1.exe /lib/gcc/i686-pc-cygwin/3.4.4 |
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| 20:39:47 | Lear | mikachu: doesn't look like it would be that hard to include bss size in the plugin/codec header... |
| 20:39:49 | bluey | works fine right now |
| 20:39:56 | bluey | just playing some mpc and no skips |
| 20:39:56 | Ctcp | Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 4 hours and 16 minutes at the last flood |
| 20:39:56 | * | safetydan adds YANO |
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| 20:40:12 | safetydan | or YAO as the case may be |
| 20:40:13 | Mikachu | Lear: am i clearing "too much" now, or too little? |
| 20:40:39 | Mikachu | from what i understand it can't be too little |
| 20:40:48 | Lear | Too much. As Linus said, the bss area (usually) isn't as large as the rest of the plugin buffer. |
| 20:40:59 | Musicmad | Mikachu: how do I reinstalle gcc then.. |
| 20:41:07 | Lear | So things can be improved further. :) |
| 20:41:51 | Lear | Doesn't even have to break plugin compatibility... |
| 20:42:02 | Mikachu | the plugins already load instantly for me now, but if you want to, feel free to make it better of course :) |
| 20:42:53 | LinusN | Musicmad: you aren't supposed to add an extra path to cc1.exe |
| 20:43:24 | * | preglow screams as he sees another option |
| 20:43:34 | XavierGr | what option? |
| 20:43:38 | Musicmad | LinusN: I'm sure you are right - just wonder why it doens't work without. |
| 20:43:39 | XavierGr | options are good :D |
| 20:43:40 | safetydan | preglow, sorry |
| 20:43:53 | safetydan | But it was just so damn useful |
| 20:44:15 | Mikachu | preglow: the first thing i thought when i tried rockbox the other day was 'wow, this is a lot of options' |
| 20:44:22 | Musicmad | :) |
| 20:44:23 | preglow | haha, yeah |
| 20:44:28 | preglow | and we'd like to get rid of a bunch |
| 20:44:37 | Xerion | i think the problem is that i build the crosscompiler itself with weird flags :p |
| 20:44:41 | preglow | think i'll need to try this one out |
| 20:45:39 | safetydan | Can always back it out if a better solution presents itself |
| 20:45:46 | LinusN | Musicmad: did you follow the instructions exactly? |
| 20:46:33 | markun | apple patent for a touch-screen ipod: http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.2956 |
| 20:46:49 | Musicmad | LinusN: think so - will check again to make sure that I didn't skip anything. |
| 20:47:36 | LinusN | Musicmad: also try another mirror for the base cygwin installation |
| 20:48:16 | * | LinusN definitely agrees with bluechip about the crappy cygwin installer |
| 20:48:28 | preglow | it's very bad |
| 20:48:37 | preglow | safetydan: i don't like how the botton screen is handled, i think |
| 20:48:51 | preglow | i'd rather prefer if it just displayed as far as it went, and not a bunch of whitespace |
| 20:48:57 | safetydan | good point |
| 20:49:16 | preglow | the scrollbar also goes all the way, which makes it look kind of weird |
| 20:49:30 | preglow | but apart from that, i actually prefer this way of scrolling to the old one, yes |
| 20:49:34 | preglow | at least now i can see what i'm doing |
| 20:49:59 | Musicmad | LinusN: I can build for the iriver though (not sim). |
| 20:50:02 | safetydan | I'll have a go at fixing those |
| 20:50:25 | LinusN | Musicmad: so it's the native compiler that doesn't work? |
| 20:51:06 | Musicmad | LinusN: not sure what you mean, but it's only the simulators that fail. |
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| 20:51:28 | Musicmad | safetydan: I can have a look too, once I get my compiler up and running. |
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| 20:52:04 | XavierGr | hehe are you related? |
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| 20:52:31 | XavierGr | safetydan and dangerousdan I mean. It must be the same person right? |
| 20:52:36 | safetydan | apparently not |
| 20:52:43 | XavierGr | really? |
| 20:52:43 | safetydan | he never seems to stay when I'm around :) |
| 20:52:44 | preglow | from now on i demand to be called "King of Fixed Point" instead of preglow |
| 20:52:48 | linuxstb | safetydan: Prove it. |
| 20:52:51 | XavierGr | haha |
| 20:53:00 | Musicmad | preglow: you will when you port the wma stuff. |
| 20:53:06 | XavierGr | indeed |
| 20:53:10 | linuxstb | hehe |
| 20:53:20 | * | safetydan points at /whois results for safetydan vs DangerousDan |
| 20:53:32 | XavierGr | nice idea |
| 20:53:41 | * | safetydan bows before the King of Fixed Point |
| 20:54:04 | preglow | i look forward to ripping out all the 16 bit code |
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| 20:54:08 | XavierGr | sah DangerousDan just left |
| 20:54:20 | Musicmad | LinusN: yup the "Normal" build is fine. |
| 20:54:34 | safetydan | * DangerousDan (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) has joined #rockbox |
| 20:54:34 | safetydan | XavierGr hehe are you related? |
| 20:55:23 | safetydan | bah, sound works fine in the X11 sim |
| 20:55:29 | * | safetydan wonders what's up with SDL then |
| 20:57:10 | lostlogic | Musicmad: normal and sim builds use entirely different compiler toolchains |
| 20:57:21 | Musicmad | lostlogic: ok that's why |
| 20:57:39 | Musicmad | I'll just keep working on my iriver then, but it's a bit tedious. |
| 20:58:31 | lostlogic | Musicmad: the sim build _should_ use the same compiler as the tools part of the target build... |
| 20:58:48 | lostlogic | Musicmad: but also require additional libraries of one sort or another |
| 20:59:25 | Musicmad | ok - the first problem is that it can't find cc1.exe - if I path to that then it cant find -lgcc. |
| 20:59:40 | Mikachu | you can give -L/path to libgcc.so |
| 20:59:59 | safetydan | You shouldn't need to modify the path to get things to compile in cygwin, at least not the sims anyway |
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| 21:00:04 | Musicmad | safetydan: I'll implement preglows suggestion in a flash. |
| 21:00:31 | LinusN | Musicmad: something must be wrong with the base cygwin installation |
| 21:01:31 | Xerion | can't i turn off building of the calculator, it's useless anyway :p |
| 21:01:35 | Musicmad | ok LinusN: will try another mirror. |
| 21:01:39 | Xerion | and i can't find anything from with compiler |
| 21:01:43 | Xerion | no strange flags used |
| 21:02:05 | XavierGr | Xerion: if you want remove it from /apps/plugins/SOURCES |
| 21:02:26 | XavierGr | or just delete the .c file and then make -k |
| 21:02:33 | Xerion | i'll try that just to see if it's the only thing which errors :p |
| 21:02:50 | XavierGr | you can make -k only to see if there is another error |
| 21:03:06 | Xerion | k |
| 21:03:48 | Xerion | only at the end it doesn't make all because of the skipped calculator |
| 21:03:57 | Mikachu | XavierGr: my corruption problems were my own fault, i had -Os so everything is fine with your plugin :) |
| 21:04:12 | Mikachu | XavierGr: the ones i got on the ones i sent |
| 21:04:39 | XavierGr | nice |
| 21:05:27 | Xerion | so i have no idea what's wrong with the calculator but the rest builds fine |
| 21:05:37 | XavierGr | then ditch it :D |
| 21:06:13 | Mikachu | ah, it probably needs -lgcc for the sine functions? |
| 21:06:35 | Mikachu | or maybe i'm mixing up two people now |
| 21:08:01 | Xerion | i love how kde's "autorun" kicks in when fstab is changed :) |
| 21:08:19 | safetydan | dbus or hald probably |
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| 21:11:57 | Xerion | meh can't get the permissions right lol |
| 21:12:03 | Xerion | i'm such a n00b :) |
| 21:14:14 | preglow | my god |
| 21:14:22 | preglow | the wav.c codec is such a lovely mix of different indent levels... |
| 21:14:48 | Musicmad | safetydan: done deal: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1429902&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 21:15:06 | preglow | has anyone actually tested adpcm decoding? |
| 21:15:23 | Xerion | argh umask is reversed :p |
| 21:15:47 | linuxstb | preglow: I think someone tested that wav codec quite thoroughly before it was submitted. Lear maybe. |
| 21:17:14 | Mikachu | Xerion: that's why it has mask in the name |
| 21:17:19 | Xerion | yay it crashes :D |
| 21:17:46 | Xerion | I40:PDIR1FULL |
| 21:17:52 | Xerion | how useful ;) |
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| 21:19:03 | safetydan | How are the build time estimates done at the moment? Anyway of making them self correction (i.e. estimate based on last twenty compiles or similar)? |
| 21:19:06 | preglow | lin 524, wav.c what's up there? |
| 21:20:02 | safetydan | wavbufsize? |
| 21:20:34 | preglow | brb, telephone |
| 21:20:54 | safetydan | Hrmm... an unholy alliance between the SDL sound code and the X11 threading code produces... exactly the same result as straight SDL code. |
| 21:20:55 | safetydan | bah |
| 21:21:11 | safetydan | Musicmad, I'll commit when I stop poking at this SDL stuff |
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| 21:21:44 | Musicmad | safetydan: thanks - no rush :) |
| 21:24:06 | Lear | preglow, linuxstb, yes, I created test files based on what sox could give me. :) |
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| 21:24:58 | preglow | Lear: looks to me like there is one goto that will never trigger there |
| 21:25:29 | Lear | looks like it, yes. |
| 21:25:47 | Lear | didn't review the code that much then, mainly tested it. :) |
| 21:25:47 | preglow | which one of them should i keep? |
| 21:25:55 | Lear | you ask me?? |
| 21:26:04 | preglow | i'm prettifying the code now, so might as well remove it |
| 21:26:14 | preglow | you, yes :-) |
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| 21:26:23 | Lear | looks like it is a case of missing "{}" to me.... |
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| 21:26:48 | Lear | (I'm looking at the gotos on line 537 and 540...) |
| 21:27:03 | Lear | well, I didn't write the d*** thing... :) |
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| 21:27:38 | Lear | btw, some checks could probably be moved to metadata.c... |
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| 21:28:25 | preglow | probably |
| 21:29:09 | Zoide777 | for those of you having trouble building the sim, I found this site: (rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/) |
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| 21:29:27 | Zoide777 | it has a working 4g grayscale sim that *works*, so i'm pretty happy about that :D |
| 21:29:37 | Zoide777 | (they're already built) |
| 21:30:36 | andy_ | aegray, linuxstb: great work on the 5g! was rockbock or ipl first with mp3 playback? :) |
| 21:30:50 | safetydan | woo, audio thread debug screen in sim... |
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| 21:31:53 | safetydan | hrrm... looks like it goes scatty everytime the codec runs to fill the pcm buffer |
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| 21:33:17 | andy_ | LinusN: any chance of HD LED GPIO? |
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| 21:39:03 | LinusN | andy_: huh? |
| 21:40:39 | andy_ | LinusN: Any chance you could double-check the GPIO for controlling the HD LED on H1xx? |
| 21:41:13 | lostlogic | in unrelated news, does the H1x0 have a way to tell if the battery is full? |
| 21:41:54 | LinusN | andy_: ah, maybe later |
| 21:42:08 | LinusN | lostlogic: i believe so, yes |
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| 21:43:33 | lostlogic | need to work with the guy who submitted that charging patch then to unify h1x0 and H3x0 charging behaviour with the exception of H3x0 USB charging |
| 21:43:56 | andy_ | LinusN: sounds good |
| 21:45:28 | andy_ | LinusN: will you bring your cool stuff to the devcon? BDM etc? :) |
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| 21:49:00 | safetydan | Musicmad, committed |
| 21:49:02 | safetydan | top work |
| 21:50:34 | Musicmad | thanks :) - it's only a few lines though.. |
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| 21:51:20 | safetydan | Musicmad, yeah, but it makes a difference to me so it's important :) |
| 21:51:45 | ep0ch | preglow: regarding adpcm, i remember trying ms adpcm and ima adpcm and they didn't work |
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| 21:55:51 | Lear | preglow: btw, what's the purpose of those common internal sample format changes? |
| 21:56:08 | Musicmad | safetydan: me too :) - I'll focus on the minor GUI improvements I think. |
| 21:56:44 | safetydan | Musicmad, if you're done with that sourceforge patch, you could close it |
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| 21:57:16 | Musicmad | gonna try to make play abort the menus from any level, but it has proven harder than I thought. |
| 21:57:24 | Musicmad | safetydan: ok I'm done I think. |
| 21:58:29 | safetydan | Hasn't changed when I look at it on sf |
| 21:59:29 | preglow | Lear: right now eq (and later other dsp effect) aren't as accurate as they could be |
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| 22:00:11 | preglow | Lear: with formats that doesn't use too many bits, a lot of accuracy is lost in eq, for example |
| 22:00:26 | preglow | and a common internal format is nice anyway |
| 22:02:16 | preglow | safetydan: lookin' good. cute little fix too |
| 22:02:24 | preglow | i would have thought it would be bigger |
| 22:03:02 | Musicmad | preglow: upsample maybe? |
| 22:03:13 | safetydan | preglow, thank Musicmad for that. The GUI code makes me go cross-eyed sometimes. |
| 22:03:19 | preglow | Musicmad: what? |
| 22:03:41 | Xerion | damn brickmania is hard, on h140 anyway :p |
| 22:03:53 | Xerion | it's just too fast :D |
| 22:03:53 | Musicmad | preglow: makes for a better EQ code with less loss. |
| 22:05:15 | preglow | Musicmad: how can that be? |
| 22:05:18 | ep0ch | is it just me or should the new scrolling setting be under "File View" rather than "Display -> Scrolling"? |
| 22:05:26 | preglow | Musicmad: are we talking about the same kind of upsampling here? |
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| 22:06:22 | Musicmad | preglow: I don't know the math, I just know it's very common in the pro audio algorithms. Go to 96khz, do your algo, then go back to 44.1 (but you were talking bits, so maybe this doesn't apply). |
| 22:06:56 | Musicmad | ep0ch: it doesn't apply to file view only. All lists are affected. |
| 22:07:41 | Mikachu | i think we're talking about sampling depth now, not sampling frequency |
| 22:08:21 | | Part yeahx |
| 22:08:34 | Mikachu | what is Screen scrolls out of view? |
| 22:08:38 | preglow | Musicmad: that would have a very small impact on the eq |
| 22:08:45 | preglow | Musicmad: and resampling is not cheap to do properly |
| 22:08:53 | Musicmad | preglow: indeed not. |
| 22:09:07 | preglow | and you really only do upsampling when dealing with non-linear effects |
| 22:09:11 | preglow | the eq is strictly linear |
| 22:09:46 | Musicmad | not phase linear I assume? |
| 22:09:51 | preglow | oh no |
| 22:09:55 | preglow | that would be way too expensive |
| 22:10:00 | Musicmad | rigth :) |
| 22:10:25 | safetydan | Mikachu, shifts the whole screen left instead of just one line when scrolling long lines in a list |
| 22:10:27 | Musicmad | upsampling is done in pro EQ's to my knowledge, but it might just be hype. |
| 22:10:28 | ep0ch | lostlogic: here? i have a playback bug for you :) |
| 22:10:39 | Mikachu | safetydan: oh |
| 22:10:55 | preglow | Musicmad: for eqs use linear phase fir filters, in which case it is no point at all in upsampling |
| 22:11:00 | preglow | s/for/pro/ |
| 22:11:46 | Musicmad | preglow: is that a fact? |
| 22:11:52 | preglow | yes |
| 22:13:10 | midgey34 | does anyone have any comments about the demux.c updates I made? |
| 22:13:11 | preglow | there might be some small point in upsampling for iir based eqs like we use, to make the highshelf filters behave better, but no, not much |
| 22:14:09 | Musicmad | ok |
| 22:14:18 | lostlogic | ep0ch: meetings... /msg it to me |
| 22:14:34 | safetydan | midgey34, apart from the "FIXME WRONG?" :) |
| 22:14:35 | ep0ch | lostlogic: k |
| 22:14:38 | aegray | anyone here have a 5g ipod? |
| 22:14:45 | midgey34 | that was in the original source |
| 22:14:51 | aegray | (possibly with ipl install) |
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| 22:16:34 | midgey34 | hmm, there are a total of 18 FIXME's in the original demux code |
| 22:17:02 | aegray | kernel probably |
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| 22:17:04 | midgey34 | although, they are all the same code basically |
| 22:17:04 | aegray | whoops |
| 22:17:07 | linuxstb | midgey34: Does your patch actually fix any problems? i.e. does it make any unplayable files now playable? |
| 22:17:17 | aegray | linuxstb: do you happen to have ipl installed? |
| 22:17:29 | linuxstb | aegray: No. |
| 22:17:31 | aegray | k |
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| 22:18:18 | preglow | but ok, i'm going home for funeral for a couple of days, back in a couple of days |
| 22:18:21 | preglow | later |
| 22:18:50 | preglow | redundancy man |
| 22:18:57 | * | aegray explodes |
| 22:18:57 | markun | linuxstb: we didn't go through with the soldering today, and we're not so sure anymore if the testpins are the tx and rx :( |
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| 22:21:45 | safetydan | man, the iPod Video sim is going to need a huge background |
| 22:22:40 | linuxstb | It won't be that bad - probably about 320x600 |
| 22:22:49 | linuxstb | I mean about 360x600 |
| 22:22:59 | Mikachu | how fast is the cpu? |
| 22:23:05 | linuxstb | Which one? |
| 22:23:10 | Mikachu | on the video |
| 22:23:13 | linuxstb | It has four... |
| 22:23:13 | safetydan | I wonder if I should just scale up the image of the iPod color to make one for the video |
| 22:23:18 | Mikachu | ah |
| 22:23:23 | Mikachu | and the nano has two? |
| 22:23:28 | linuxstb | Yep. |
| 22:23:29 | Mikachu | but you only use one |
| 22:23:34 | Mikachu | that is also a question |
| 22:23:58 | linuxstb | It has the same PP5022 chip as the Nano (dual 75Mhz ARMs), plus a "150MHz dual core" Broadcom chip. |
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| 22:24:36 | linuxstb | And yes, at the moment Rockbox is only using one of the two ARMs. |
| 22:24:51 | Rob2222 | muahaha |
| 22:24:54 | Rob2222 | 4 cores |
| 22:24:56 | Rob2222 | nice |
| 22:24:57 | Rob2222 | ^^ |
| 22:25:09 | Mikachu | will it eventually use both? |
| 22:25:23 | linuxstb | Yes - if it needs to. |
| 22:25:51 | Mikachu | hm, if it has two.. why does the apple firmware lag more in menus while playing music? |
| 22:26:00 | linuxstb | However, there are two good reasons not to use it - it's simpler, and it saves power. |
| 22:26:23 | Mikachu | is it 'off' when you don't use it? |
| 22:26:27 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 22:26:31 | linuxstb | It's sleeping... |
| 22:27:17 | LinusN | probably pining for the fjords |
| 22:27:26 | linuxstb | :) |
| 22:27:26 | Mikachu | hahaha |
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| 22:27:35 | Mikachu | nah nah, it's only restin' |
| 22:28:52 | Mikachu | are the ipods the only ones with >1 cpu? |
| 22:29:11 | linuxstb | The only current Rockbox targets, yes. |
| 22:30:35 | Mikachu | you could use the extra cpus for running seti@ipod |
| 22:31:21 | linuxstb | hehe. not good for battery life though... |
| 22:31:32 | ep0ch | do both cpus on ipod have to run at the same speed? |
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| 22:31:49 | Mikachu | the info screen says 11mhz i think, is that wrong? |
| 22:31:53 | * | Mikachu checks |
| 22:32:14 | linuxstb | I think I read that the second CPU can either run at 100% or 50% of the speed of the main CPU, or be put to sleep |
| 22:32:15 | Mikachu | well, the audio thread entry under the debug menu |
| 22:32:32 | linuxstb | Yes, that's just wrong. It's 75MHz. |
| 22:32:44 | ep0ch | interesting |
| 22:32:48 | Mikachu | i figured 11 is too little to play mp3s |
| 22:32:59 | Mikachu | is the main cpu also clockable? |
| 22:33:20 | linuxstb | Yes, down to something like 15KHz I think. |
| 22:33:28 | Mikachu | k? wow |
| 22:34:16 | ep0ch | luckily for me the shops had shut by the time i decided to buy a 5g today :D |
| 22:34:18 | hydrahead | so hows the work on variable cpu speed going? |
| 22:34:21 | linuxstb | Yes - the "light sleep" mode. I've just checked, and the PP5022 can go from 32KHz to 100MHz. |
| 22:35:07 | linuxstb | preglow has done a few unsuccessful tests, but that's about it. |
| 22:35:58 | Mikachu | okay |
| 22:36:04 | Mikachu | it's a bit out of my league |
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| 22:40:57 | midgey34 | anyone know about converting audio to alac using quicktime? |
| 22:41:31 | linuxstb | Why don't you use itunes? |
| 22:41:38 | linuxstb | Or just not use alac... |
| 22:41:45 | linuxstb | Or are you testing? |
| 22:41:55 | midgey34 | testing |
| 22:42:03 | midgey34 | so far itunes and dbpoweramp files work |
| 22:42:14 | linuxstb | Is this with or without your patch? |
| 22:42:42 | midgey34 | both |
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| 22:42:53 | midgey34 | so, no real improvement |
| 22:43:02 | linuxstb | I already applied a fix to decode.c when itunes playback broke. |
| 22:43:36 | linuxstb | Simply ignoring all unknown chunks, rather than adding those two new functions. |
| 22:43:51 | midgey34 | alright |
| 22:44:03 | midgey34 | so probably better than what the patch does |
| 22:44:31 | linuxstb | Do you have access to Nero? |
| 22:44:46 | midgey34 | nero burning rom? |
| 22:44:57 | linuxstb | Nero's AAC encoder |
| 22:45:11 | linuxstb | I'm not sure what software it comes with. |
| 22:45:53 | midgey34 | well, I think there's a plugin for dbpoweramp |
| 22:49:51 | midgey34 | actually I do have it |
| 22:50:38 | hydrahead | an i use the 4g grey ui simulator to see how the wps's look like? do i have to drop some music in the folder? |
| 22:50:43 | hydrahead | *can |
| 22:51:05 | safetydan | hydrahead, you should be able to |
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| 22:51:36 | hydrahead | so i just drop a folder with music to the simulators root? |
| 22:52:01 | safetydan | no, into the archos folder under the sim build directory |
| 22:52:09 | hydrahead | ok, thaks |
| 22:52:16 | safetydan | so if you built the sim in "build-sim" you want "build-sim/archos" |
| 22:52:27 | safetydan | don't forget to do make install after building the sim |
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| 22:54:48 | hydrahead | im using the precompiled version and it's working fine, too bad the display is still in development :) |
| 22:58:31 | linuxstb | You could use the H120/H140 sim - the LCD is the same size, but there are no display bugs. |
| 22:59:06 | linuxstb | You won't notice much difference between the two sims, apart from possibly different key combinations. |
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| 23:01:12 | hydrahead | but the ipod sim represents the current state of that port, right? |
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| 23:07:10 | midgey34 | linuxstb: are there any alac or aac files known not to work? |
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| 23:08:23 | linuxstb | I think I've got a test file. |
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| 23:12:05 | linuxstb | hydrahead: Yes. |
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| 23:13:11 | hydrahead | bugger, wish i knew how to read c... |
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| 23:14:19 | fairway | does audio work on the 5G yet? |
| 23:14:31 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:14:36 | fairway | since when? |
| 23:14:41 | LinusN | a few hours :-) |
| 23:14:45 | fairway | doh |
| 23:14:45 | fairway | :) |
| 23:15:43 | fairway | when I have time I will design nice skins :) |
| 23:17:27 | imphasing | LinusN: !!] |
| 23:17:30 | imphasing | Really? |
| 23:17:33 | imphasing | That's cool.. |
| 23:17:53 | LinusN | don't thank me |
| 23:18:16 | LinusN | thank linuxstb and aegray |
| 23:18:37 | fairway | The big problem with the 5G was figuring out what spec sheet to follow when implementing the driver. Now that they know which specification the custom WM DAC used in the 5G follows, it should be fairly straightforward to iron out the bugs. |
| 23:19:52 | lostlogic | 5g shares the severe slow LCD problems of the H3x0... |
| 23:20:31 | Bger | nite |
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| 23:21:22 | imphasing | I know aegray was working on it yesterday |
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| 23:22:20 | linuxstb | lostlogic: I can't imaging the h3x0's lcd is as slow as the 5g |
| 23:22:25 | linuxstb | s/imaging/imagine/ |
| 23:23:07 | lostlogic | linuxstb: the actual lcd_update is better on h3x0, but they both have the OUR FRAMEBUFFERS ARE TOO BIG AND UPDATING THEM IS SLOW problem :) |
| 23:23:32 | linuxstb | What do you mean "our framebuffers are too big" ? |
| 23:23:44 | linuxstb | You mean the LCDs are too big? |
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| 23:24:00 | lostlogic | linuxstb: it's just a lot of data to keep updated as the screen changes... |
| 23:24:54 | lostlogic | because they are 16bit color and high res |
| 23:32:05 | t0mas | hm... |
| 23:32:11 | t0mas | we have an almost error free build table... |
| 23:32:42 | t0mas | does anybody have some time for this one: |
| 23:32:43 | t0mas | http://www.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=2006-02-13%2021%3A47%3A16&type=iAudio%20X5%20-%20Simulator#prob1 |
| 23:34:31 | LinusN | any h300 owners here? |
| 23:35:06 | muesli__ | yepp |
| 23:35:23 | LinusN | can you help me with a test? |
| 23:35:28 | muesli__ | sure |
| 23:35:37 | Febs | Yup. |
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| 23:36:04 | LinusN | muesli__: when you enter/exit usb mode, does the hard drive click? |
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| 23:36:19 | Kiwiclx | Hey all :x |
| 23:36:21 | LinusN | the regular usb mode, not bootloader usb |
| 23:36:29 | muesli__ | oki |
| 23:36:34 | muesli__ | hold urt breat |
| 23:36:37 | LinusN | Kiwiclx: yo |
| 23:37:02 | Kiwiclx | Yo :) |
| 23:37:11 | tucoz | LinusN: I came to think of something. (re forum post). What if the root folder is filled with more files than the default dir buffer number? Will rockbox boot in that case? |
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| 23:37:18 | Kiwiclx | I am in need of some quick assistance ;d |
| 23:37:25 | LinusN | tucoz: yes |
| 23:37:31 | tucoz | Ok, good |
| 23:37:46 | muesli__ | LinusN nope |
| 23:37:59 | midgey34 | LinusN: I'm not getting the click then spindown in reg mode either |
| 23:38:11 | linuxstb | Kiwiclx: tell us your problem..... |
| 23:38:12 | midgey34 | in bootloader mode I am |
| 23:38:20 | LinusN | ok |
| 23:38:25 | Febs | I get a short click: ch-chink. |
| 23:38:43 | LinusN | i have discovered a problem with the usb/ata drivers on the h300 |
| 23:38:49 | muesli__ | but i get clickes sometimes while/after copying |
| 23:38:58 | Febs | Of course, Windows XP scans the filesystem every time I connect a USB device. |
| 23:39:15 | Kiwiclx | I am running RockBox on a G4 B&W. I was looking around the settings and changed the language to 'Korean', but instead of getting anything, all of the entires on the menu are now blank |
| 23:39:24 | Kiwiclx | Is there any config file I can revert or some other process? |
| 23:39:26 | muesli__ | backdrop remains while using usb-mode - nice |
| 23:39:29 | preglow | yes, default font doesn't support korean... |
| 23:39:44 | Kiwiclx | I switched to another font, but that's good to know |
| 23:39:56 | LinusN | muesli__: could you try my fix for me? |
| 23:40:01 | preglow | the current font selection is a bit of a mess |
| 23:40:05 | * | preglow disappears again |
| 23:40:12 | tucoz | hehe, I always wondered what the number in the title of the browser irc client was. Now I got it. It´s the number of people in the channel. :) Thought it was some random status of some kind. |
| 23:40:27 | Kiwiclx | :) |
| 23:40:37 | muesli__ | LinusN yepp, tell me what to do |
| 23:40:49 | Febs | I saw 109 on the channel this morning. That's the highest I've seen. |
| 23:40:59 | LinusN | http://linus.haxx.se/rockbox-usbfix.zip |
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| 23:41:46 | muesli__ | dl... |
| 23:42:00 | tucoz | Febs: what do you think of the screenshot issue with the manual? Do you think we should select by feature in that case, or by target? |
| 23:42:34 | midgey34 | is there any reason any that the win32 sims are built in the table rather than sdl? |
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| 23:42:58 | Bagder | rather than? |
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| 23:43:00 | tucoz | There will be lots of redundancy if we store the screenshots by target. |
| 23:43:01 | Bagder | I can see both kinds |
| 23:43:08 | midgey34 | like on the h100 |
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| 23:43:25 | Bagder | yes, there is a reason |
| 23:43:39 | muesli__ | LinusN ok, im ready |
| 23:43:42 | t0mas | some are not working as SDL yet midgey34 |
| 23:43:43 | Bagder | the reason is that we can't currently cross-compile a windows SDL build on Linux |
| 23:43:57 | LinusN | muesli__: install it and try usb mode |
| 23:44:05 | Febs | tucoz, I haven't followed the discussion. |
| 23:44:21 | Bagder | so I left the win builds to at least make sure some windows stuff builds |
| 23:44:26 | midgey34 | ah, alright |
| 23:44:35 | tucoz | As linuxstb said the other day. We could set a few configs (similar to rockbox source) and define these for each platform. |
| 23:44:36 | muesli__ | LinusN yepp, theres a click on entering |
| 23:44:44 | t0mas | Bagder: is there a H120 SDL sim availible then? |
| 23:44:53 | t0mas | I tought that didn't work yet |
| 23:44:58 | linuxstb | I think there are SDL sims for everything. |
| 23:44:59 | Musicmad | LinusN: choosing a different mirror got me past the path problems. |
| 23:45:04 | Bagder | t0mas: all target sims can be SDL |
| 23:45:08 | t0mas | ah, missed that |
| 23:45:16 | t0mas | nice |
| 23:45:23 | tucoz | Like, define haverecording, haveradio, resolutionXbitdepth etc |
| 23:45:34 | LinusN | muesli__: a click with the test code? |
| 23:45:35 | Musicmad | someone knows the reason for this: /rockbox-devel/sim/libsim.a(lcd-remote.o): In function `lcd_remote_update': |
| 23:45:35 | Musicmad | ote_update' |
| 23:45:36 | tucoz | ...for each platform |
| 23:46:25 | muesli__ | LinusN a clcik while entering the usb-mode, but didnt get one while leaving and reentering |
| 23:46:35 | LinusN | ok |
| 23:46:40 | Febs | And then, e.g., use the "record screen" screenshot only for those targets that have a recording function? And use the same screenshot for each such platform? |
| 23:46:40 | LinusN | as long as it works |
| 23:47:00 | LinusN | muesli__: there is a slight chance that the battery life improves with this fix |
| 23:47:01 | lostlogic | LinusN: this relates to the HDD power vs HDD reset that you found in dissassembling the iRiver firmware? |
| 23:47:09 | LinusN | lostlogic: yup |
| 23:47:22 | LinusN | but i haven't mixed them up |
| 23:47:29 | tucoz | Febs: the issue is, we could store screenshots by platform (ipodnano, h1xx, h300 etc) or by resXbitdepth. We could then use the same screenshot for h300 and ipodcolor for instance. |
| 23:47:36 | muesli__ | LinusN ill X my fingers :-) |
| 23:48:05 | muesli__ | btw what is that clicking good for? |
| 23:48:21 | Febs | I think that the latter makes sense for this reason: if a new function is added, I can add a section to the manual for that function. However, I can only take screen shots on the platforms I own, H120 and H340. |
| 23:48:39 | tucoz | ...or with the sim |
| 23:48:47 | XavierGr | iAudio X5 has 16Mbyte RAM <- really? That sucks! |
| 23:48:49 | Febs | Ah, good point. |
| 23:49:07 | Musicmad | can anybody shed some light on my problem please? tia |
| 23:49:18 | Febs | Still, it would be a lot of work to keep screenshots of every platform, especially as the number of platforms grows. |
| 23:49:25 | linuxstb | H120 is the same as the iPod 4G (and hopefully soon, the iPod 3G). And the H340 is the same as the iPod Color/Photo. So you already have 5 targets... |
| 23:49:30 | muesli__ | XavierGr thats poor :o |
| 23:50:04 | tucoz | linuxstb. Is that really true? I think the blue backlight is missing in teh 4g |
| 23:50:19 | linuxstb | Who cares about the backlight color? |
| 23:50:22 | tucoz | hehe |
| 23:50:42 | Moos | XavierGr: yeah :-(, i just saw this too with Linus commit, and I planed to buy one very soon |
| 23:50:59 | tucoz | Well, I am quite convinced with the resxbitdepth approach |
| 23:51:07 | Bagder | and you guys know that 16MB vs 32MB is a major impact? |
| 23:51:09 | linuxstb | Buy a 60GB iPod 5G - a lovely 64MB of RAM... |
| 23:51:20 | elinenbe | LinusN: your power commit that you just did... is that pretty much just a cleanup? |
| 23:51:21 | Bagder | I would say you only guess here |
| 23:51:38 | lostlogic | linuxstb: 5g 30g also 64mb? |
| 23:51:46 | lostlogic | elinenbe: no, read up to his convo with muesli |
| 23:51:46 | linuxstb | No - 32MB. |
| 23:51:54 | Moos | Bagder: isn't a drama but we are habbit with irivers one :) |
| 23:51:57 | Febs | I guess the issue is this: what do we gain from having a different screenshot for every platform? If the EQ screen, for example, looks basically the same on the iPod color as on the H340, separate screen shots doesn't add much value. |
| 23:51:57 | tucoz | I'll have a go with the macros next week, and see what that will brin. |
| 23:51:57 | * | lostlogic cries |
| 23:52:05 | Bagder | the h100 has 16 mb too |
| 23:52:33 | LinusN | elinenbe: no, it's a major bug |
| 23:52:37 | Moos | Bagder: I thought to h120 and 300 one |
| 23:52:58 | tucoz | Febs. exactly. |
| 23:53:07 | elinenbe | LinusN: will this solve some of the power problems that people are up in arms about? |
| 23:53:08 | Febs | It seems to me that the cost in time and effort of putting togethre separate screenshots for each platform outweighs the benefit. |
| 23:53:31 | tucoz | I agree. They would be duplicates anyway |
| 23:54:48 | Febs | By the way, I set up my Cygwin environment and also took a read through the introductory TeX documentation, so I'm close to being ready to help with the actual manual. |
| 23:54:49 | tucoz | Ok, so the first step will be to fix that. I'll fix that next week if noone else beat me to it. |
| 23:54:51 | linuxstb | Febs: I would agree as well. I think we basically need four types of "generic" screenshots - Archos (small mono LCD), iRivier H1x0/iPod Grayscale (medium sized greyscale LCD) and then the color LCDs. |
| 23:55:01 | linuxstb | Sorry, that's three types... |
| 23:55:30 | tucoz | Febs: cool. Yes, do you see the similarity with the wiki-language? |
| 23:55:58 | tucoz | It is quite a similar way of structuring stuff. |
| 23:56:44 | Febs | Sure. And conceptually not too different from HTML. |
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| 23:56:49 | LinusN | elinenbe: it *might* be the cause of the poor battery life |
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| 23:57:13 | tucoz | got to go. See you |
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| 23:57:33 | JdGordon | mornin all |
| 23:58:01 | LinusN | shalom |
| 23:58:44 | JdGordon | gah u all confuse me :D |
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