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| 00:00:10 | XavierGr | nad teel us if it fixed the battery issue |
| 00:00:30 | XavierGr | wow you are the 100th guest here ashridah! |
| 00:00:55 | Bagder | 101 actually |
| 00:01:01 | JdGordon | we r busy today :) |
| 00:01:15 | XavierGr | hmm it is 100 fo me. |
| 00:01:30 | XavierGr | ah 101 with the OP? |
| 00:01:39 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Bagder " by Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) |
| 00:01:45 | muesli__ | 101..nice concert.. |
| 00:01:50 | XavierGr | you got me. |
| 00:02:09 | XavierGr | then elinenbe was 100th... |
| 00:02:17 | JdGordon | LinusN: is the min and max db value #defined sopmehwer for each target? |
| 00:02:36 | * | XavierGr wonders how elinenbe's name is spelled.... |
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| 00:03:12 | XavierGr | now we are 100 |
| 00:03:30 | muesli__ | close the #..we are full :o |
| 00:03:35 | elinenbe | XavierGr: huh? |
| 00:03:54 | elinenbe | e-l-i-n-e-n-b-e |
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| 00:04:00 | LinusN | JdGordon: firmware/sound.c |
| 00:04:08 | JdGordon | ok |
| 00:04:08 | elinenbe | first initial and then the first seven letters of my last name |
| 00:04:30 | elinenbe | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcNicks |
| 00:04:48 | elinenbe | I've been around here forever.... |
| 00:04:49 | XavierGr | elinenbe: with all those "e" I am not sure which one is like the "e" in BED or like the "e" in ME |
| 00:04:54 | XavierGr | so which is which? |
| 00:05:21 | elinenbe | E Linenberg |
| 00:05:25 | elinenbe | Eric |
| 00:05:38 | XavierGr | ah that makes sense |
| 00:05:40 | elinenbe | however you want to pronounce it is fine with me... |
| 00:06:14 | muesli__ | febs name is nice ;-) |
| 00:06:29 | LinusN | michael? |
| 00:06:42 | muesli__ | defebbo |
| 00:06:46 | muesli__ | difebbo |
| 00:06:47 | muesli__ | ;) |
| 00:06:59 | Zoric | Hi, does anyone now how I can scan and add replaygain tags to my mp3s on linux? |
| 00:08:06 | Zoric | I tried using normalize-audio which is in the Ubuntu repos, but it doesnt seem to write the tags so that rockbox understands them... |
| 00:10:11 | Musicmad | what do you know - finally got it working. g'night. |
| 00:10:12 | | Part Musicmad |
| 00:11:17 | Mikachu | Zoric: you can use a program called mp3gain |
| 00:11:19 | * | muesli__ utters a tiny wish and hope somebody will hear it...1-minute-instead-of-15minutes-increases in sleeping time mode would rule... |
| 00:11:37 | Zoric | Mikachu: does that work on linux? |
| 00:11:41 | Mikachu | sure |
| 00:11:52 | Mikachu | it's one of those few programs that work on both linux and windows :) |
| 00:12:15 | Mikachu | it actually modifies the mp3 file, so it should work with anything |
| 00:12:27 | Mikachu | it is lossless |
| 00:12:38 | Zoric | but I want it to not modify the file, just add tags. But I guess it does that too |
| 00:12:44 | Zoric | found it the a repo :) |
| 00:12:54 | Mikachu | it's the only one i know about anyway, and use |
| 00:13:08 | linuxstb | If you have Wine installed, you can try foobar (or other Windows apps) |
| 00:13:29 | linuxstb | I think people have asked here for such a tool in the past, but there doesn't seem to be one. |
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| 00:14:09 | ashridah | i've run into a utility called 'crip' that claims to do replaygain on mp3 files |
| 00:14:15 | Zoric | yeah, but I havnt really gotten around to installing wine, it seems quite difficult to get to work... and Im much to lazy to boot my windowsinstall :P |
| 00:14:31 | ashridah | but i don't know if it *has* to do them while ripping, it doesn't make it overly clear, and i haven't looked |
| 00:14:33 | Mikachu | it works pretty much out of the box now |
| 00:14:43 | Febs | <muesli__> febs name is nice wink |
| 00:14:52 | Febs | ^^I wasn't very creative when coming up with a nickname. |
| 00:14:58 | Febs | :) |
| 00:15:00 | midkay | linuxstb, congrats and thanks for audio on 5g - made my day :) |
| 00:15:10 | linuxstb | Zoric: "apt-get install wine" worked fine for me... |
| 00:15:24 | muesli__ | so did i..i guess i was eating muesli when i chose it ;) |
| 00:15:24 | linuxstb | (I'm running Debian unstable) |
| 00:15:34 | ashridah | Zoric: does your ubuntu repo have a utility called 'crip' in it? |
| 00:15:50 | ashridah | (might only be in debian) |
| 00:15:53 | XavierGr | muesli: you can edit the cfg file |
| 00:16:23 | XavierGr | so go open your favorite cgf file and locate the option. |
| 00:16:31 | XavierGr | then change the value to that of your preference. |
| 00:17:16 | ashridah | comes from http://bach.dynet.com/crip/ if you can't find it |
| 00:17:23 | muesli__ | which config? guess viewers.cfg its not |
| 00:17:41 | Mikachu | save your config first |
| 00:17:42 | XavierGr | no |
| 00:17:48 | XavierGr | your configuration file |
| 00:17:52 | muesli__ | ah ok |
| 00:18:07 | XavierGr | which is generated when you save your settings |
| 00:18:15 | linuxstb | ashridah: I've just downloaded crip - according to the man page, it normalises the audio, rather than calculating replaygain tags. |
| 00:18:35 | ashridah | darn, then the explanation i read wasn't particularly accurate |
| 00:18:56 | ashridah | it'll pass replaygain-enable flags on to ripping/encoding utilities by the looks of it |
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| 00:23:37 | linuxstb | midkay: Do you have a 5g? |
| 00:23:46 | Zoric | mp3gain does not seem to be able to save the replaygain info in tags as foobar2000 does... or can it? |
| 00:24:15 | midkay | linuxstb, yep |
| 00:25:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | mp3gain *can* save the tags without editing the files. At least in Win32, a GUI version of it I tried once did |
| 00:25:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you chose to just "scan" the files instead of scan and write (or something like that) it would put the tags on without modifying the actual frames at all |
| 00:25:35 | Cassandra | Is there any way to tell if a ripped MP3 has the correct encoding for gapless? I'm getting 'almost gapless' at the moment, and I'm wondering whether it's Rockbox or the encoder that's to blame (I use lame.dll). |
| 00:26:35 | Mikachu | did you use −−nogap ? |
| 00:26:52 | Cassandra | You can't use −−nogap with a DLL. |
| 00:27:09 | Zoric | Paul_The_Nerd: aah, found it in the man-file now. Will try it. |
| 00:28:21 | Zoric | it only writes tag by default, and if you want it to modify the file you have to specify it ;) |
| 00:28:53 | muesli__ | XavierGr mmh..cant find the value |
| 00:29:55 | Cassandra | Besides, aren't recent LAMEs supposed to contain internal data about the size of the last frame. −−nogap is a hack to split tracks on frame boundaries IIRC, which is something different. |
| 00:30:09 | linuxstb | midkay: Have you tried the latest Rockbox builds? |
| 00:30:23 | muesli__ | Cassandra i would use mpc for gapless trax to get rid of gap issues |
| 00:30:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: You could always try the files in a non-rockbox player that supports LAME gapless. |
| 00:30:42 | midkay | linuxstb, i stayed a few minutes later than i should have this morning to compile for audio support.. was a build from about 9 hours ago early enough? :) |
| 00:31:20 | linuxstb | If it has audio, then yes :) Have you tested many different files? |
| 00:31:38 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Need more H300 testers on USB problem or are you fine? |
| 00:31:47 | Cassandra | Paul_The_Nerd, problem is some of them 'cheat', so I still wouldn't know for sure. |
| 00:31:57 | LinusN | i'm fine, but please try the latest bleeding edge |
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| 00:32:52 | midkay | linuxstb, just MP3s.. i tried a 320kbit one and a 192k one.. both skipped once in a while, i checked the audio thread and it kept trying to refill but emptied too quickly. is everything working though? wav/ogg/flac? |
| 00:33:00 | Rob2222 | Hmm, the strange thing is, my H340 is clicking and my H360 not... *trytofigurewhy* |
| 00:33:39 | Cassandra | muesli__, if I were going to re-encode, I'd probably go wavpack. |
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| 00:34:00 | muesli__ | how large are those files? |
| 00:34:30 | Cassandra | It's just I'm sure someone promised me that swcodec Rockbox would do 'proper gapless' at some point. |
| 00:35:06 | Cassandra | Oddly to my ear it doesn't sound like there's any actual silence between tracks. |
| 00:35:18 | Cassandra | Just that the transition is somehow 'jerky'. |
| 00:35:45 | Cassandra | I'd just like to get to the bottom of whether its my encoding technque or Rockbox that's to blame. |
| 00:36:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | How "jerky" do you mean? |
| 00:36:48 | Cassandra | Just like there's a tiny jolt in track transitions. |
| 00:36:54 | Cassandra | It's *almost* not there. |
| 00:37:05 | Cassandra | But you know how it is with *almost*. |
| 00:37:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is this on an iPod? |
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| 00:37:59 | linuxstb | midkay: Yes, every audio format works in theory - I've had no problems with FLAC, 224kbps Ogg, 128kbps and 192kbps (CBR) mp3. But some codecs do struggle at higher bitrates. |
| 00:38:01 | Cassandra | Nope, this is H120. |
| 00:38:02 | Mikachu | i had good gapless on my ipod with a flac album |
| 00:38:13 | Cassandra | Not sure if I've got the same on iPod. |
| 00:38:26 | Mikachu | at afaict |
| 00:38:31 | Mikachu | at least* |
| 00:38:31 | midkay | linuxstb, i should try again.. the 4-letter filenaming pisses me off though :) (side note: is there a way to build an id3 database on the 5g?) |
| 00:38:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Another question: Are they replaygained? |
| 00:38:48 | Cassandra | Mikachu, getting gapless right is strictly an MP3 problem. They didn't think that people might want gapless when designing the format. F***wits. |
| 00:38:51 | midkay | linuxstb, please tell me next up is faster lcd driver ;) |
| 00:39:02 | Mikachu | typical of germans |
| 00:39:09 | Cassandra | Paul_The_Nerd, yes. But I use "album, track if shuffled". |
| 00:39:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | I figured, but y'know, doesn't hurt to ask. :) |
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| 00:40:07 | linuxstb | You can't blame mp3 - it is simply an mpeg elementary stream. It was designed to be used inside a container - but no-one ever did... |
| 00:41:18 | Cassandra | too technical for me, I'm afraid. But it seems to me assuming that music will be exactly a set number of 'frames' is a bad thing. |
| 00:41:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Apparently lame 3.90 or later *should* add the gapless info to the LAME tag by default. |
| 00:41:50 | Cassandra | Paul_The_Nerd, That's what I thought. |
| 00:42:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though I read that one person had problems with a "very slight hiccup" being added to the audio itself at the beginning of tracks |
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| 00:43:53 | Cassandra | I'm using LAME 3.96 DLL 1.32 apparently. |
| 00:44:08 | muesli__ | using x-fade kills excellent gaps either |
| 00:44:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | It was a program called ALL2LAME using 3.97b2 that did it for this person, but that doesn't mean the glitch couldn't happen elsewhere. |
| 00:44:35 | Mikachu | there's crossfade on shuffle only |
| 00:44:39 | Cassandra | muesli__, but I don't want my tracks run into one another. |
| 00:44:56 | Mikachu | right, i misread that sentence |
| 00:45:06 | muesli__ | nah, it sounds gapless. u wont notice it |
| 00:45:25 | muesli__ | set all delays to 0 and fade in/out to 1-2secs |
| 00:45:27 | muesli__ | try it |
| 00:45:49 | Cassandra | I might do if there's no better way to solve it. |
| 00:46:03 | Cassandra | But I'd rather get it working right than work around it, if possible. |
| 00:46:29 | muesli__ | just give it a try..doesnt cost a cent. but in general ur right ;) |
| 00:46:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: You may want to try the songs in an external program or two anyway, just to see if it's something the cheating can solve or not. |
| 00:47:26 | Cassandra | Winamp ought to work, right? (I'm using the Japanese MP3 codec that supports ReplayGain.) |
| 00:48:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I have no clue, honestly. |
| 00:48:39 | Mikachu | emupiisurii |
| 00:49:23 | linuxstb | Cassandra: foobar should give you perfect gapless - that's the reference preglow used. |
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| 00:49:55 | Cassandra | OK - will try foobar. |
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| 00:52:18 | Cassandra | Right. It's not Rockboxes fault, I can hear it in foobar too. |
| 00:52:28 | Cassandra | Very slight though. |
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| 00:57:03 | JdGordon | radio is MHz or KHz? |
| 00:57:09 | Zoide777 | very strange... 4g grayscale is back to having the inverted Apple firmware display! |
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| 00:57:23 | Mikachu | JdGordon: depends, is it fm or am? |
| 00:57:30 | JdGordon | fm |
| 00:57:36 | preglow | Cassandra: there is no such thing as perfect gapless with mp3 |
| 00:57:46 | mikearthur | pretty much |
| 00:57:52 | mikearthur | LAME does it pretty much perfect |
| 00:58:03 | Cassandra | preglow: Bah. I want my money back. |
| 00:58:14 | preglow | you may get the same artifacts with vorbis as well |
| 00:58:17 | preglow | but it's far less likely |
| 00:58:33 | Cassandra | What about wavpack? |
| 00:58:35 | preglow | it _is_ gapless, but there are phase discontinuities in the transition |
| 00:58:38 | preglow | wavpack is losless |
| 00:58:40 | preglow | lossless |
| 00:58:46 | preglow | so that has perfect gapless support |
| 00:58:56 | Cassandra | Erm, it's either, isn't it? |
| 00:59:05 | preglow | well, yeah |
| 00:59:13 | preglow | but the lossy mode is pure quantisation based, i think |
| 00:59:29 | preglow | so it'll still be very nicely gapless |
| 00:59:50 | * | Cassandra looks like I need to re-rip then. |
| 00:59:52 | linuxstb | You can get perfect gapless mp3 if you simply encode as a long file and split on frame boundaries. |
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| 01:00:02 | * | Cassandra stares at her 300 odd CDs. |
| 01:00:02 | Cassandra | Eww. |
| 01:00:17 | linuxstb | That's always seemed a more sensible approach than hacks like lame headers. |
| 01:00:23 | Cassandra | linuxstb, yeah, I did that for The Wall and Tubular Bells. |
| 01:00:27 | Cassandra | Kind of fiddly though. |
| 01:00:28 | Mikachu | if ogg works better, why not use that? |
| 01:00:38 | preglow | linuxstb: well, as long as you're willing to give up on exact rips |
| 01:00:45 | preglow | linuxstb: the track transitions will be all over the place |
| 01:00:56 | preglow | i just fuck it and use a proper format instead |
| 01:00:56 | Cassandra | Mikachu, because wavpack has some neat features and, it appears, works better than ogg. |
| 01:01:00 | preglow | mp3 should be allowed to die |
| 01:01:19 | * | Cassandra uses MP3 for hysterical raisins. |
| 01:01:39 | linuxstb | preglow: Can you notice if a transition is a few hundred samples out? It's already been moved artificially to a CD sector boundary. |
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| 01:01:48 | Cassandra | When I can fit 500 albums on a jukebox losslessly, then I'll happily use lossless. |
| 01:02:01 | Cassandra | But I think that requries a 160GB disk. |
| 01:02:04 | Mikachu | ogg isn't lossless... |
| 01:02:14 | preglow | linuxstb: not usually, no, but i'd still not like to work around a formats shortcomings like that |
| 01:02:34 | linuxstb | How many samples in a 44.1KHz mp3 frame? |
| 01:02:38 | preglow | 1152 |
| 01:02:39 | Cassandra | linuxstb, you can definitely hear the oddness when playing tracks that have been encoded like that on random. |
| 01:02:46 | preglow | on random, yes |
| 01:02:47 | preglow | indeed |
| 01:03:31 | linuxstb | I'm mainly thinking of live albums - where even a second won't make much difference to the transition. |
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| 01:03:45 | Cassandra | Gods my PCs speakers suck. I must replace them but it's not worth doing before I move. |
| 01:03:47 | linuxstb | But if you have tracks like that, then I agree with preglow, use a better format. |
| 01:03:53 | Mikachu | if it's a transition anyway, does the exact cut point really matter? |
| 01:04:08 | preglow | not much |
| 01:04:20 | Cassandra | Mikachu, sometimes, yeah. |
| 01:04:22 | preglow | it's more for the tracks without transitions as such |
| 01:04:44 | Cassandra | Two tracks may segue and still have a distinct join. |
| 01:04:46 | preglow | getting the first 500 samples of the start of the next track is nice when that track is not the next one |
| 01:04:55 | Cassandra | A lot of Mike Oldfield stuff, for example. |
| 01:04:59 | preglow | sweet jesus, i'm tired |
| 01:05:29 | preglow | beh |
| 01:05:32 | preglow | bed time, then |
| 01:05:41 | aegray_ | preglow or linuxstb you still here? |
| 01:05:44 | preglow | barely |
| 01:05:46 | Cassandra | Take care preglow, and thanks for the info on gapless. |
| 01:05:51 | aegray_ | you happen to have that pcf spec? |
| 01:05:58 | preglow | which? |
| 01:05:59 | linuxstb | It's in our wiki. |
| 01:06:02 | preglow | it's in the wiki |
| 01:06:03 | aegray_ | ah k |
| 01:06:03 | aegray_ | thanks |
| 01:06:06 | linuxstb | It's the same as the pcf50606 |
| 01:06:08 | * | aegray_ lost everything |
| 01:06:10 | aegray_ | yep |
| 01:06:37 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf |
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| 01:06:51 | Cassandra | Dammit, I wonder how long Logitech are going to take to come out with a wireless version of the Z-5500. |
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| 01:07:38 | aegray_ | thanks :) |
| 01:08:32 | preglow | wireless piece of shit |
| 01:08:34 | preglow | i hates hit |
| 01:08:35 | preglow | it |
| 01:08:38 | webguest17 | did anyone else try the latest 4g grayscale build? the original Apple firmware shows up upside down again |
| 01:09:05 | preglow | cool |
| 01:09:23 | linuxstb | webguest17: Do you like that feature? |
| 01:09:25 | Cassandra | I think we'll call that a 'feature'. ;) |
| 01:09:28 | linuxstb | :) |
| 01:10:37 | * | Cassandra is getting increasingly tempted by an iPod Video. Does the battery life really blow? |
| 01:10:38 | webguest17 | hehe |
| 01:10:38 | linuxstb | webguest17: If you would prefer to keep the apple firmware the right way up, try this bootloader: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bootloader-4gtest1.bin |
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| 01:11:07 | Mikachu | just turn your ipod over when you boot |
| 01:11:17 | Zoide777 | haha |
| 01:11:21 | Zoide777 | thanks linuxstb |
| 01:11:22 | pill | http://www.clubic.com/article-30765-1-z-5450-et-logitech-perd-le-fil.html |
| 01:11:23 | pill | Cass |
| 01:11:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:11:28 | pill | there is |
| 01:11:37 | preglow | Cassandra: compared to the nano it seems to blow, yea |
| 01:11:41 | pill | except you replace the wires by electricity |
| 01:11:44 | pill | so.. |
| 01:11:46 | pill | uselee |
| 01:11:47 | pill | ss |
| 01:12:02 | Cassandra | The subwoofer on that isn't as good, apparently, |
| 01:12:03 | Zoide777 | what really impresses me right now is how much *faster* rockbox boots |
| 01:12:05 | linuxstb | Cassandra: They are extremely nice (especially the slimline 30GB in black). But I've never done any tests for battery life. |
| 01:12:09 | Zoide777 | compared to one or 2 days ago |
| 01:12:18 | Zoide777 | i'd say 3x faster at least |
| 01:12:22 | Cassandra | And if I'm going to pay that much for speakers, I'd like to have them as good as possible. |
| 01:12:35 | Cassandra | linuxstb, I'd be getting a 60gb one. |
| 01:12:35 | pill | i have a z-680 |
| 01:12:40 | pill | i'm fine so far |
| 01:12:41 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Nothing has changed - did you switch to a different WPS? |
| 01:12:42 | preglow | linuxstb: can you see any way out of the ui sluggishness issue, or are we just going to have to go two cores soon? |
| 01:12:47 | Cassandra | Already over 40gb on the iRiver. |
| 01:12:57 | linuxstb | Cassandra: Nice - you can write the code to handle the fact that it has 64MB of RAM.... |
| 01:13:08 | linuxstb | (using runtime detection...) |
| 01:13:21 | preglow | can't do that |
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| 01:13:27 | linuxstb | preglow: Can so |
| 01:13:29 | preglow | we'd need to move the plugins and codec load address first |
| 01:13:50 | linuxstb | Yes - just put them at the start of RAM, not the end. |
| 01:14:01 | preglow | i think amiconn said that wasn't trivial |
| 01:14:05 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: i *was* playing around with wps's yesterday, but i guess it's hard to pinpoint what made the difference. I think it was after compiling & uploading the latest cvs bootloader and then overwriting all the rockbox stuff in the ipod with the latest rockbox.zip build |
| 01:14:13 | Cassandra | So the 60gb has more RAM than the 30. Weird. |
| 01:14:18 | Cassandra | And unhelpful of Apple. |
| 01:14:28 | Cassandra | They aren't making our lives easy, are they? |
| 01:14:58 | preglow | swine |
| 01:15:09 | linuxstb | It's not too bad - the worse that will happen is we will need separate builds. |
| 01:15:15 | Cassandra | Although might be best just to cut the Gordian not and have an ipodvideo30 and ipodvideo60 builds. |
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| 01:15:24 | Cassandra | knot even. |
| 01:15:25 | Zoide777 | what file controls the scrollwheel? I'd like to see if I can change it so that it accelerates after a while in the song list |
| 01:15:27 | preglow | nah |
| 01:15:33 | preglow | the runtime detection thing should be fairly simple |
| 01:15:36 | Zoide777 | it takes too long right now w/ linear speed |
| 01:15:40 | preglow | better one build than two |
| 01:15:50 | Cassandra | preglow, in theory I agree with you. |
| 01:15:53 | Mikachu | Zoide777: firmware/drivers/button.c |
| 01:16:00 | Cassandra | In practice, I'm not sure I want to write it. |
| 01:16:00 | linuxstb | I wonder if the pcm code could simply have a "hole" in the ringbuffer. |
| 01:16:03 | preglow | Zoide777: firmware/drivers/button.c |
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| 01:16:09 | Zoide777 | thanks |
| 01:16:17 | Cassandra | linuxstb, I love it when you talk dirty. |
| 01:16:29 | preglow | Zoide777: but i'm not convinced that's the way to go |
| 01:16:36 | Zoide777 | preglow: why? |
| 01:16:41 | preglow | Zoide777: the acceleration part should be in the list viewer, not the button driver |
| 01:16:43 | lostlogic | linuxstb: I had thought of that in order to be able to resize it |
| 01:16:47 | Zoide777 | ah, ok |
| 01:16:49 | Cassandra | Apple claim up to 20hrs battery life on the 60gb model, |
| 01:16:49 | Zoide777 | that makes sense |
| 01:16:51 | lostlogic | linuxstb: would introduce a ton of extra logic |
| 01:16:54 | preglow | Zoide777: because for every menu item you'd want to move, one event would have to be dispatched |
| 01:16:54 | Cassandra | Which I assume means about 15. |
| 01:16:57 | lostlogic | well not a ton, but a lot |
| 01:17:01 | linuxstb | lostlogic: so a bad plan? |
| 01:17:02 | preglow | Zoide777: and the list viewer redraws for each event |
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| 01:17:32 | lostlogic | linuxstb: I'm sure it could be done... might have to go back to statically sized buffer chunks to make it really feasible though |
| 01:17:36 | Mikachu | i changed that delta to 10, it's impossible to control things with 4 |
| 01:17:36 | preglow | hole in the ringbuffer = bad plan |
| 01:17:40 | preglow | don't even consider it |
| 01:17:42 | lostlogic | hah |
| 01:17:48 | Zoide777 | preglow: the whole screen? wouldn't it be cheaper to just redraw the items that are changing? |
| 01:18:13 | preglow | Zoide777: well, that's probably what it's doing, but that alone is more than slow enough that you can't make it scroll as fast as you want just because each keypress will take too long to handle |
| 01:18:28 | preglow | Zoide777: so for acceleration to work properly, you'll have to hack the list viewer to skip several entires at once |
| 01:19:03 | Mikachu | or if you use the two 150mhz cores, you can make it scroll smoothly the whole way with motion blur |
| 01:19:04 | preglow | Zoide777: and god knows how that is to happen with the current clickwheel interface. the list viewer doesn't know how fast it's scrolled, it just takes scroll events and treats them pretty much like if it was a button pres |
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| 01:19:17 | preglow | Mikachu: and phong shading |
| 01:19:20 | Zoide777 | preglow: i guess that wouldn't be too bad in terms of functionality... if it waits for a certain time, then starts skipping entries so you can get, say, to the letter P. then it stops skipping lines after you stop moving the wheel |
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| 01:19:29 | Mikachu | haha, yes, definitely phong shading |
| 01:19:34 | Zoide777 | preglow: hmm... i guess its not that simple then |
| 01:19:58 | preglow | Zoide777: no it's not, i've thought about it myself, and it basically boils down to that everything that requires acceleration needs some kind of special interface for the clickwheel |
| 01:20:08 | preglow | Zoide777: we can't just pretend it's a set of buttons anymore |
| 01:20:34 | preglow | if can imagine clickwheel handling is already very slow on video ipods thanks to this |
| 01:20:48 | preglow | s/if/i/ |
| 01:20:52 | JdGordon | hey, is it better to reuse tags in the wps for radio specific items? or make new tags? |
| 01:21:40 | Zoide777 | preglow: could there just be some timer that waits, say 3 seconds and then makes the scroll events translate into 3 line skips? and then another timer that waits for inactivity for about half a second to restore it to normal |
| 01:22:46 | Zoide777 | preglow: it wouldn't really measure how fast you're sliding your finger on the wheel, but it could help |
| 01:23:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: It seems to me, at least, that the radio should use its own entirely separate WPS anyway since the data's pretty drastically different from Track/Artist/Album info. |
| 01:23:28 | preglow | Zoide777: any solution that doesn't involve the event torrent the click wheel generates now is acceptable |
| 01:23:41 | JdGordon | ye, but its working now with unmodified wps files.. so if i reuse tags it makes life easier... |
| 01:23:54 | preglow | Zoide777: it's just a matter of making it as non-intrusive to the rest of rockbox as possible |
| 01:24:11 | JdGordon | although, i have added a new tag to check if its the radios creen or not... so adding new tags wouldnt be _much_ hassle.. |
| 01:24:20 | preglow | if we port to h10, we're going to have this problem all over again, so might as well start prepare for some other control mechanisms than buttons |
| 01:24:20 | Zoide777 | preglow: i guess it would have to be yet another menu option, hehe.. |
| 01:25:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: Does it use the existing WPS though, or does it have a separate WPS for the radio screen? |
| 01:25:36 | JdGordon | exisintg 1 |
| 01:25:37 | preglow | but yeah, i believe the best thing to do is probably to add another button event which just indicates clickwheel movement |
| 01:25:46 | preglow | then have another function where you can interact more closely with the clickwheel |
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| 01:26:34 | preglow | so that every screen can decide how to handle the clickwheel: either like it is two buttons, like now, or like it is the continuous surface it is |
| 01:26:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ick. I personally don't like that idea, but that's just me. Since a lot of the images for a normal WPS won't be used at all in a Radio WPS. Neither will the backdrop image fit the information as well in a lot of cases. Just my thoughts though. |
| 01:26:53 | preglow | linuxstb: comment? |
| 01:26:56 | Zoide777 | preglow: that sounds reasonable. I honestly don't know much at all right now about how rockbox is working under the hood, but it seems pretty crazy to try to make it homogeneous now that there are so many different targets |
| 01:27:03 | linuxstb | Could the scroll event have a value - i.e. how many clicks it has moved since the last event? |
| 01:27:24 | preglow | it would be a hack |
| 01:27:27 | linuxstb | But there are two variable - time and distance we need to take care of... |
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| 01:27:33 | preglow | the button event is a 32 bit bit field |
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| 01:28:11 | preglow | there's also another issue |
| 01:28:22 | preglow | in order to not just have the same old problem again where we fire away zillions of events |
| 01:28:32 | preglow | the button driver would need to start skipping some of those events |
| 01:28:45 | linuxstb | My original thoughts were to have different scroll events - something like SCROLL_FWD, SCROLL_FWD_FAST and SCROLL_FWD_FASTER |
| 01:28:49 | preglow | and send them more seldom, so that the clickwheel position delta can grow a bit before the events are sent |
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| 01:29:00 | preglow | linuxstb: that might work |
| 01:29:09 | JdGordon | Paul_The_Nerd: i disagree... besides. it was easier this way :D |
| 01:29:11 | preglow | we would not need many degrees |
| 01:29:14 | linuxstb | So for example, SCROLL_FWD_FASTER would page-down in the list viewer |
| 01:29:21 | aegray_ | you guys know about i2c interrupts? |
| 01:29:27 | preglow | aegray_: a little |
| 01:29:41 | aegray_ | how do you tell which device the interrupt came from? |
| 01:29:49 | aegray_ | do you just poll interrupt status flags on all devices? |
| 01:29:59 | preglow | hmm |
| 01:30:02 | Zoide777 | or maybe the wheel sends an initial signal to a listener on the driver, and then the driver polls the wheel every so often until it somehow decides it's stopped? |
| 01:30:12 | * | aegray_ wants the pcf to interrupt on low bat |
| 01:30:36 | preglow | Zoide777: that is what happens now, problem is still that the button driver needs to decide how often to send events |
| 01:30:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: Well, at the *very* least it'll need its own tags. That way, at least, all the conditional images for normal use won't show up, and if someone doesn't show anything but say Track Name, they can still have a functioning Radio |
| 01:30:48 | preglow | Zoide777: the clickwheel is very sensitive, tons of events are sent just at a stroke of the clickwheel |
| 01:31:09 | aegray_ | erm i'lll ask agai later |
| 01:31:10 | aegray_ | g2g |
| 01:31:25 | preglow | it makes no sense for the list viewer to decide how often to poll, in the case of buttons, it wants to poll as often as it can |
| 01:31:30 | preglow | the clickwheel is a special case |
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| 01:32:59 | preglow | but it's hard to stay awake |
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| 01:33:01 | preglow | i need to sleep |
| 01:33:16 | preglow | see you in a couple of days |
| 01:33:18 | preglow | *poof* |
| 01:33:19 | webguest17 | preglow: k, get some rest. thanks for the help |
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| 01:46:38 | JdGordon | h300 users... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2643.0 |
| 01:47:06 | Zoide777 | for the song list display, is that just within list.c or is list.c called by something else like filetree.c, etc? I'm trying to find the code that deals with the scrollwheel like we were talking about a while ago |
| 01:47:58 | XavierGr | JdGordon any try to merge the 2 patches? |
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| 01:53:53 | aegray_ | linuxstb: weird -thesame code is working for me and not for others on 5g :( |
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| 02:05:23 | linuxstb | aegray: That's because everyone else is incompetent |
| 02:05:46 | aegray_ | haha |
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| 02:11:07 | josh_ | linuxstb: Hey! |
| 02:11:24 | josh_ | aegray_: pop, SEEKED!, dma not active, illegal instruction |
| 02:11:31 | aegray_ | damnit |
| 02:11:36 | aegray_ | why does it work for mine |
| 02:11:42 | aegray_ | AGHHHHHHH |
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| 02:26:13 | jaebird | linuxstb: what is this about upsidedown 4g gray? |
| 02:27:01 | Cassandra | It means that Satan pwns your iPod. |
| 02:28:07 | linuxstb | jaebird: Some people are still having problems with the apple firmware's display being wrong. |
| 02:28:33 | jaebird | hmm...i'll do a cvs latest again and see... |
| 02:31:01 | jaebird | how often should we update the bootloader...i mean it is the rockbox that is changing right? what differences does the bootloader make if it boots? |
| 02:32:08 | linuxstb | jaebird: No difference - there is no reason to upgrade until something significant changes. The h1x0 has only had about 5 bootloader releases in the last year. |
| 02:32:35 | jaebird | that is what i figured... |
| 02:33:25 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: what are page up and page down in list.c? in the 4g, is that how moving the wheel a lot is translated right now? |
| 02:35:10 | Zoide777 | also, what does #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP stand for? don't all the targets have LCDs that use bitmaps? |
| 02:35:54 | dpassen1 | Not the Archos Player |
| 02:36:06 | Zoide777 | ah, ok |
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| 02:40:12 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: what are page up and page down in list.c? in the 4g, is that how larger wheel movements are interpreted right now? |
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| 02:40:58 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Look in list.h for the button mappings. |
| 02:41:26 | linuxstb | I did most of the button mappings about 3 months ago without giving them much thought - so feel free to suggest better. |
| 02:41:52 | linuxstb | Looks like PGUP and PGDN are not defined for the ipods. |
| 02:42:04 | Zoide777 | oh, no wonder! i hadn't thought of looking at the .h, silly me. of course i was never going to understand what was going one |
| 02:42:38 | linuxstb | There are about 4 or 5 different .h files under apps/ that define how the various parts of Rockbox handle buttons. |
| 02:42:58 | Zoide777 | ok, thanks for the info |
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| 02:43:32 | Zoide777 | wow, and there's even comments in the .h! looking at the .c by itself was kind of depressing :D |
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| 02:57:18 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: ahhhh... i have an idea. it turns out page up/down makes the selection move by pages as opposed to item by item. for the ipod, I'm going to try to have a counter keep track of how many items have been scrolled in the current screen. so when the number goes above, say, 50, it clearly means you're trying to scroll down a big list, so we will treat the wheel as pg up/down instead of the ordinary up/down. then when the user clicks on Play |
| 02:57:44 | Zoide777 | (it's more a patch than a fix, of course, but it might be useful in the meantime) |
| 02:57:54 | Zoide777 | gotta shower though, brb |
| 02:57:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: So, what happens if they start paging down, get to the 407th entry, and need #408? |
| 02:58:12 | Zoide777 | oh shit |
| 02:58:13 | Zoide777 | hehe |
| 02:58:25 | Zoide777 | i forgot, i had thought of a timer for stopping |
| 02:58:30 | Zoide777 | but that's not easy, right.. |
| 02:58:37 | Zoide777 | at least not as easy as the simple counter |
| 02:58:56 | Zoide777 | oh, now i remember |
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| 03:00:23 | Zoide777 | so when you get to #407, you simply scroll *up*, which disables the pg up/down scrolling. the idea is that it would would do the fast scrolling to get down to some region of the playlist, and from there you can just nudge it up and have low sensitivity up & down until you scroll a large number of lines again |
| 03:00:28 | linuxstb | Zoide777: The button driver in firmware/drivers/button.c receives an interrupt for every click the wheel is turned. It then sends a scroll event every 4 (I think) clicks - but only if the button queue is empty. |
| 03:00:30 | Zoide777 | (downward, say) |
| 03:01:04 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: so what does that mean? |
| 03:01:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: there's a current bug with Hold |
| 03:01:19 | linuxstb | What you could do is keep track of the number of clicks since the last button event was sent, and if this is more than a certain number, send a new event, e.g. BUTTON_SCROLL_FWD_PAGE |
| 03:01:38 | linuxstb | And then map that to page down in list.h |
| 03:01:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: If you turn hold on then off, until it scrolls (volume changes + or - 1) button presses don't do anything |
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| 03:02:31 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: that sounds great. would i do that in gui_synclist_do_button? |
| 03:02:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | That was introduced, as far as I can tell, when the code not to queue scroll events when busy was added. |
| 03:03:36 | Zoide777 | Paul_The_Nerd: so does that mean that the click counting would not always be reliable? |
| 03:04:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | No clue |
| 03:07:06 | Zoide777 | well, I'll try and see what i can find out. you guys gave me some good ideas. (keep in mind this is my first go at the source code... well, except for the contrast line back when the whole screen would be dark). at the very least i'll learn a bit |
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| 03:07:22 | Zoide777 | ok, now shower time |
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| 03:46:08 | Rob2222_ | how does pages scrolling work? |
| 03:47:47 | JdGordon | hold down on and use the arrows |
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| 03:48:44 | Rob2222_ | yes but what is the new paged scrolling in CVS? |
| 03:51:42 | Rob2222_ | i cant see the difference whats new |
| 03:55:46 | lostlogic | Rob2222_: it's a new setting of some sort |
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| 04:02:53 | XavierGr | Rob did you started an new bench with Linus' changes? |
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| 04:07:48 | Rob2222_ | hmm |
| 04:07:55 | Rob2222_ | which changes? |
| 04:08:52 | Rob2222_ | i thought it changes only the USB initialisation |
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| 04:13:12 | Rob2222_ | will ask him tomorrow if it could be worth a try. |
| 04:13:15 | Rob2222_ | good night alll |
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| 04:44:56 | JdGordon | any1 know if there is any targets without the lcd_bitmap and has a radio? |
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| 04:55:03 | JdGordon | Paul_The_Nerd: do u know if there is any targets without the lcd_bitmap and has a radio? |
| 04:56:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't *think* so. I'm pretty sure the only target without LCD_BITMAP is the Archos Jukebox Player, and I don't think those have FM. I could be very wrong though, as I know very little about the Archos targets. |
| 04:57:06 | JdGordon | ok, so ill leave that for now then |
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| 05:04:48 | XavierGr | hmmm I did a read write battery benchmark on my iHP-160 |
| 05:04:59 | XavierGr | very bad results |
| 05:05:33 | XavierGr | no never mind |
| 05:06:10 | XavierGr | Maxtor Diamond MAX USB 2.0 80GB = 23.4MB/s average read. |
| 05:06:57 | XavierGr | Maxtor Diamond Max USB 2.0 82GB = 12.1 MB/s |
| 05:07:31 | XavierGr | Toshiba MK6006 GAH USB 2.0 60GB = 13.7 MB/s |
| 05:07:50 | XavierGr | I must find more USB 2.0 HDs to compare. |
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| 05:08:46 | XavierGr | a nice utility to test you HDs is HD Touch and it is freeware. |
| 05:09:07 | XavierGr | When I get my H340 back I will make another test. |
| 05:11:00 | JdGordon | grrr.. i cant get the peak meter goin on the radio screen :'( |
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| 05:12:15 | JdGordon | im not crazy right?? the peak meter works fine on the radio right? |
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| 05:26:53 | JdGordon | bugger... help.. any1 know wps code thingy? |
| 05:26:59 | JdGordon | i found a problem |
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| 05:35:24 | XavierGr | the peak meter doesn't work on the radio |
| 05:35:41 | XavierGr | or... |
| 05:35:43 | XavierGr | let me check |
| 05:36:46 | XavierGr | yes as I remember it doesn't work |
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| 06:05:34 | JdGordon | anyway.. my problem is whit the wps code... i want to have a condiional to show 1 thing if the tags value is 0, and nother thing for any other number.. is that possible? |
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| 06:56:48 | webguest49 | hi |
| 06:56:57 | webguest49 | i'm having a problem with my 5g ipod |
| 06:57:04 | webguest49 | when i click on a song |
| 06:57:21 | webguest49 | the song will load but it will not play despite the play symbol showing |
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| 07:12:20 | Zoide777 | for the people who're having problems with their hard drive, you should check whether it's in PIO or DMA: (http://www.michna.com/kb/WxDMA.htm). makes a huuuge difference |
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| 07:37:34 | Bg3r | Morning :) |
| 07:41:02 | midkay | morning for you, "good night" for me :) |
| 07:41:14 | Bg3r | good night, then ;) |
| 07:41:22 | midkay | thanks, see you :) |
| 07:41:38 | Bg3r | yep;) |
| 07:42:14 | midkay | AND! BE PREPARED, ALL YE. Clock plugin update soon!! Hooray!! |
| 07:42:33 | aegray | its night. You should all follow that standard. |
| 07:42:42 | aegray | it's* |
| 07:45:25 | Bg3r | it's day here :) |
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| 08:07:04 | JdGordon | hey LinusN |
| 08:07:23 | LinusN | yo |
| 08:07:49 | JdGordon | ive got the radio wps pretty much finished.. cept i cant get the peak meter to work for some reason |
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| 08:08:16 | LinusN | i'm not surprised |
| 08:08:53 | LinusN | the peak meter code is only run in the recording mode |
| 08:09:20 | LinusN | and i think it's a terrible waste of battery to run the peak meter when listening to radio |
| 08:09:38 | JdGordon | ? for the radio before i started playing? no it shows all the time... |
| 08:10:53 | LinusN | the peak meter works, and shows all the time? |
| 08:11:02 | JdGordon | it did before i started playing |
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| 08:18:51 | JdGordon | oh, while im playing in the wps code anyway... will u be annoyed at all if i add a new tag to show the volume in fake % to make everyone happy? |
| 08:20:32 | JdGordon | LinusN: .. |
| 08:21:12 | LinusN | do that |
| 08:21:20 | JdGordon | ok, cool |
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| 08:25:57 | Bg3r | ls |
| 08:26:00 | Bg3r | ops :) |
| 08:28:18 | Zoide777 | jdgordon: that would make me very happy :D |
| 08:28:35 | * | JdGordon aims to please :D |
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| 08:32:26 | * | Paul_The_Nerd still doesn't get the "draw" of a % display. |
| 08:36:49 | LinusN | i can't understand why some people need a percent display so badly |
| 08:36:57 | LinusN | totally beyond me |
| 08:37:20 | JdGordon | coz alot of ppl dont care about the db value.. they arnt audiofiles.. % is a nice convienient number |
| 08:37:51 | LinusN | it's just a number |
| 08:38:09 | LinusN | that happens to be negative |
| 08:38:09 | JdGordon | yes, but its a nicer number (for some) than -3 |
| 08:38:28 | JdGordon | anywho.. its added.. |
| 08:39:01 | JdGordon | and now to merge my radio patch with XavierGr's and then to the patchtracker |
| 08:39:04 | LinusN | btw, you don't need top be an audiophile to appreciate the db scale |
| 08:39:14 | LinusN | you just need a brain |
| 08:39:20 | JdGordon | haha |
| 08:39:37 | JdGordon | having the - is what makes it wierd tho... |
| 08:39:56 | LinusN | perhaps, i just can't see the big deal |
| 08:40:15 | LinusN | Up/Down still adjusts the volume, like always |
| 08:40:21 | JdGordon | well.. why have the display at all even? if its too quiet turn it up.. its just a cosmetic thing... |
| 08:40:38 | Zoide777 | has anyone here had any luck creating fonts for rockbox? |
| 08:40:40 | LinusN | took me 20 minutes to get used to the db scale when i got my first device with db scale |
| 08:41:06 | LinusN | Zoide777: yes |
| 08:41:23 | LinusN | we've had some luck |
| 08:41:34 | LinusN | since there are a lot of fonts in rockbox |
| 08:41:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Having a display be numeric rather than just visual only really seems to make sense to me if the numbers mean something. |
| 08:41:51 | LinusN | Paul_The_Nerd: amen |
| 08:41:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | But I still kinda get the "100% is more intuitive" thing, in a way. I just don't get why some people get so incredibly angry either. |
| 08:42:39 | LinusN | me neither |
| 08:43:08 | LinusN | Zoide777: are you trying to convert a ttf font? |
| 08:44:27 | * | Paul_The_Nerd also doesn't own a single device with a percent scale. |
| 08:44:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | They're all 0-20, 0-30, or 0-40 or just sliders. |
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| 08:46:29 | Zoide777 | LinusN: well, I'd like to make a unicode font w/ chinese characters but that isn't as big as unifont |
| 08:46:40 | LinusN | Zoide777: lovely |
| 08:46:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: Is XavierGr's the patch that lets you load fmr files? |
| 08:46:44 | Zoide777 | hehe |
| 08:46:50 | JdGordon | yu[ |
| 08:46:51 | JdGordon | yup |
| 08:47:11 | Zoide777 | LinusN: I got fontforge for cygwin/x11, but I'm not too sure I'm doing things right |
| 08:47:32 | Zoide777 | LinusN: have you done this before? |
| 08:48:04 | LinusN | yes i have, but not in cygwin. how far have you come? |
| 08:48:47 | Zoide777 | well, i can run fontforge and all, but then I open a unicode ttf and I'm not sure how to convert it correctly |
| 08:49:11 | Zoide777 | LinusN: and then convodf or whatever it's called kept giving me segfaults |
| 08:49:49 | LinusN | Zoide777: you are supposed to create a bitmap font in fontforge, and save it as BDF |
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| 08:53:56 | Zoide777 | LinusN: ok, well first of all fontforge gives an error when opening the ttf. it says "The Postscript font name "[chinese characters |
| 08:54:02 | Zoide777 | oops, pressed enter |
| 08:54:33 | Zoide777 | LinusN: ]" is invalid. It should be printable ASCII, must not contain #$@#$% or space and must be shorter than 63 characters |
| 08:54:54 | Zoide777 | LinusN: then I click OK and it opens up the grid of letters |
| 08:54:57 | LinusN | well, give the font a non-chinese name then |
| 08:55:33 | Zoide777 | how do you do that? I mean, the filename itself is not in chinese |
| 08:57:27 | LinusN | i guess the font has an identifier in the font structure |
| 08:58:49 | Zoide777 | well, I'll try that later. so now i opened a different unicode font, and it didn't give any errors. but when I go to File −−> Generate Fonts, the box with BDF doesn't let me select BDF |
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| 09:00:40 | Zoide777 | what preferences should I select to export the bdf? |
| 09:01:44 | LinusN | i dont' remember |
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| 09:24:03 | aegray | how in general do you discern differnt i2c device interrupts from one another? |
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| 09:40:51 | Cassandra | Right - I think that's a decider. I'll be acquiring an iPod. |
| 09:40:58 | Cassandra | In a clever usage of interface technology already built into the Arcam Solo, Arcam has developed the rLead which uses the dock connector found on the bottom of iPod to communicate directly with Solo. Arcam's Solo music system has gained a worldwide reputation for being the best sounding single box music system ever made. Now, with the new Arcam rLead, it will become the perfect way to playback from |
| 09:40:58 | Cassandra | the iPod too. Control of the music is simple, as the central control keys on the Solo operate the iPod in the same manner as the iPod's own control wheel. Listings of music by Artist, Genre, Album and Track are all available, as well as feedback on transport controls such as Play, Stop Fast Forward and Rewind. Now available in stores - contact your local authorised Arcam dealer for more informatio |
| 09:40:59 | Cassandra | n |
| 09:41:29 | * | Cassandra bounces at the thought of implementing this for Rockbox. |
| 09:45:01 | Zagor | that's one of the few actual hardware advantages of the ipods: their dock is prepared for communication with outside devices, allowing external displays and intelligent controllers |
| 09:46:54 | Cassandra | Yeah, and one of the (many) advantages of the Solo. |
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| 09:47:02 | Cassandra | My Solo rocks my world. |
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| 09:50:16 | Cassandra | Damn - all the people selling really cheap iPods on eBay look like con artists. (Bet that surprised you.) |
| 09:50:52 | Zagor | :-) |
| 09:55:37 | JdGordon | yay.. manually patching a failed patch is fun :'( |
| 09:56:41 | * | lostlogic resumes pondering ipod 5g purchase now that RB plays music on it |
| 09:56:52 | Cassandra | JdGordon, I didn't know you were into BDSM. |
| 09:57:04 | Cassandra | lostlogic, get an Arcam Solo to go with it. ;) |
| 09:57:09 | JdGordon | haha...no |
| 09:57:13 | aegray | lostlogic: what are you pondering? |
| 09:57:16 | aegray | getting one? |
| 09:57:24 | lostlogic | aegray: right |
| 09:57:39 | lostlogic | Cassandra: apparently −− what is this solo thing? *googles* |
| 09:58:50 | Zoide777 | hmm... so I was able to convert a unicode font to Rockbox. But all the letters are unaligned vertically (all the words look wavy). Does anyone know what could be the reason? |
| 09:59:44 | lostlogic | Cassandra: naw, I don't need one of those. I play all of my music through my logitech speaker system, what I really need is a DAP with digital out to take advantage of the speakers' digital in. |
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| 10:04:43 | LinusN | Zoide777: no, i don't |
| 10:06:45 | markun | Zoide777: Zoide777 maybe try this and then edit the font: http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/ttf2bdf.html |
| 10:07:40 | JdGordon | wee that was fun... |
| 10:07:55 | JdGordon | XavierGr: i had to manually patch raido.c and .h.. compiling now to see if it works... |
| 10:09:35 | safetydan | I really haven't got the foggiest idea why the Win32 sim is broken. Those functions its complaining about are there. |
| 10:10:09 | Zoide777 | markun: thanks, but that's what I already used to conver the font. I actually got a working .fnt on my ipod, but the text looks all "wavy" |
| 10:16:27 | markun | Zoide777: how small do you want to make the font? |
| 10:18:13 | DJDD___ | Heya |
| 10:18:19 | Zoide777 | well, I'd say about the same as the 6+12x13 font, maybe a bit bigger |
| 10:18:55 | Zoide777 | hmmm, just tried simsun and it works alright |
| 10:19:27 | Zoide777 | the problem with these big fonts is in the wps |
| 10:19:28 | Zoide777 | nothing fits |
| 10:19:31 | DJDD___ | Hey i just got a new H340. I've finished putting rockbox on and its great. But one thing that has been pissing me off is that the screen keeping turning off, and i'll be damned if i know how to stop that. Is that the 'backlight' settings maybe? |
| 10:20:15 | B4gder | DJDD___: 1, the OF does that too, and 2 you want that to save batteries and 3 with backlight off you can't see the screen anyway |
| 10:21:16 | DJDD___ | I know the old firmware did it too, and i know it saves the battery, and i'm fine with that. But it does it WAY too soon. Like i barely have time to read the song title |
| 10:21:35 | B4gder | that's the backlight timeout setting, yes |
| 10:21:51 | DJDD___ | Ok nifty |
| 10:22:30 | DJDD___ | Whats caption backlight? |
| 10:22:49 | B4gder | switching on backlight just before it changes song |
| 10:23:13 | safetydan | Well at least my SDL sim changes seem to have fixed audio playback crashes under Windows http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2604.from1139907371;topicseen#msg18382 |
| 10:23:21 | DJDD___ | Actually scrub that, is there a H300 option menu manual in the wiki yet? I took a quick look and only found the H1xx one. Or is it all basicly the same? |
| 10:23:42 | B4gder | safetydan: goodie! |
| 10:23:47 | B4gder | DJDD___: they |
| 10:23:52 | B4gder | 're basically the same |
| 10:24:04 | DJDD___ | kk |
| 10:24:31 | Cassandra | lostlogic, yeah - that would be nice. One of the things I really wish the Solo had was a digital-out. |
| 10:25:03 | safetydan | one step closer to SDL world/rockbox domination |
| 10:26:05 | DJDD___ | Speaking of digital-out, why does it sound so crap when you plug head phones into it? |
| 10:26:44 | LinusN | DJDD___: :-) |
| 10:27:00 | DJDD___ | heh, heya Linus |
| 10:27:33 | DJDD___ | I bit the bullet and bourght a H340, still waiting on H140 spare parts though :P |
| 10:28:20 | LinusN | what parts? |
| 10:28:55 | DJDD___ | erm, well, everything save for the HDD and case i guess. |
| 10:29:08 | LinusN | oh |
| 10:30:35 | DJDD___ | I'm about to convert a movie to one rockbox can play, does it work all that good so far? |
| 10:31:09 | B4gder | it doesn't work at all so far |
| 10:31:16 | DJDD___ | haha |
| 10:31:21 | DJDD___ | sick |
| 10:31:31 | DJDD___ | So whats the 'how to' thread for? |
| 10:31:46 | B4gder | the how to thread? |
| 10:32:45 | DJDD___ | Ah, or does video work on the OF and not rockbox? |
| 10:33:06 | B4gder | yes |
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| 10:33:15 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Ah |
| 10:33:19 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Fair enough |
| 10:33:27 | JdGordon | haha my comp sux.. i cant watch a divx while cygwin is compiling... |
| 10:34:44 | JdGordon | is there a script to compile the whole thing for every tager in 1 hit? i wanna check if there my patch adds any warnings or errors to any targets... |
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| 10:37:04 | B4gder | no there isn't |
| 10:37:11 | JdGordon | bugger |
| 10:37:21 | B4gder | every target is like 20 targets and we have 3 sims... |
| 10:37:42 | B4gder | on a regular cygwin, a build take 5-6 minutes, that's... a very long time |
| 10:38:21 | safetydan | JdGordon, you can just build for the majors, SWCODEC, LCD_CHARCELLS, etc |
| 10:38:32 | safetydan | so, player, h120, h300, and one of the iPods |
| 10:38:49 | safetydan | gives a pretty reasonable coverage |
| 10:39:00 | * | B4gder agrees |
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| 10:45:40 | webguest56 | safetydan, do you think you could look at the playlist patch please, hardeep doesn't seem to be interested |
| 10:46:27 | Zoide777 | for rockbox, does it make a difference whether we convert fonts with hinting or not? |
| 10:48:09 | B4gder | Zoide777: doesn't matter |
| 10:48:36 | LinusN | i'd say it matters a lot |
| 10:48:40 | safetydan | webguest56, where was the patch again? |
| 10:48:43 | B4gder | it does? |
| 10:48:49 | webguest56 | one sec please |
| 10:49:09 | LinusN | of course, the ttf->bdf conversion will be a lot better with good hinting |
| 10:49:54 | LinusN | however, for the bdf->fnt conversion there are no hints |
| 10:50:05 | webguest56 | safetydan its here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1255322 |
| 10:50:06 | LinusN | since the hints is a truetype thing |
| 10:51:26 | safetydan | webguest56, I'll look at it again, but I'm working at the moment so nothing will probably happen until this evening |
| 10:51:46 | aegray | tune? |
| 10:51:48 | aegray | sorry |
| 10:51:52 | webguest56 | safetydan, thank you |
| 10:52:03 | B4gder | also, is there a reason hardeep wasn't "interested" ? |
| 10:52:09 | B4gder | he is after all mr playlist |
| 10:52:18 | webguest56 | no idea |
| 10:52:21 | B4gder | ok |
| 10:52:27 | Zoide777 | LinusN: i c. then i suppose it's best to just keep it on anyway in otf2bdf |
| 10:52:41 | LinusN | absolutely |
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| 10:54:00 | JdGordon | hmm.. how hight should ipodpatcher go before giving up? we r at 15 and cant find it... |
| 10:54:15 | JdGordon | only 6 drive letters r used ont he comp... |
| 10:54:58 | JdGordon | the ipod is drive d on the comp... |
| 10:55:13 | JdGordon | could it be user rights or something blocking ipodpatcher? |
| 10:56:41 | JdGordon | LinusN: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1431344&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 10:56:49 | Cassandra | You get a different errormessage if the PhysicalDevice doesn't exist, to if it's not an iPod. |
| 10:58:19 | LinusN | JdGordon: if you want this patch accepted, i suggest you only implement the wps stuff |
| 10:58:40 | JdGordon | :( y? the preset stuff is good 2 |
| 10:58:50 | LinusN | yeah? |
| 10:58:56 | JdGordon | umm... i guess so |
| 10:59:49 | LinusN | first of all, we don't like to commit several changes at once |
| 10:59:59 | LinusN | makes it hard to track changes |
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| 11:00:07 | JdGordon | :/ |
| 11:00:27 | Zoide777 | LinusN: do you ever get "wavy" fonts when converting to rockbox? |
| 11:00:38 | LinusN | with the preset patch included, this patch is HUGE |
| 11:00:52 | LinusN | Zoide777: i can't remember seeing that, no |
| 11:00:54 | JdGordon | ye, i noticed that |
| 11:02:13 | * | JdGordon will be back in 20 |
| 11:02:26 | LinusN | and it makes it virtualli impossible for me to review your wps changes |
| 11:02:44 | JdGordon | :'( it was a bitch to merge the 2 together... but i undertsand |
| 11:02:50 | JdGordon | bbs |
| 11:03:10 | Zoide777 | so what are these big patches about? |
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| 11:04:09 | LinusN | Zoide777: a wps for the fm radio screen |
| 11:04:34 | Zoide777 | oh |
| 11:05:45 | safetydan | bah, webguest56 left. I was about to ask him if shebb ever posted the newer version he said he had. Would save me time if he's fixed most of the issues LinusN raised with it. |
| 11:06:42 | Zoide777 | oh btw i messed around w/ list.c and got my scrollwheel idea working |
| 11:06:45 | LinusN | safetydan: i really like that patch |
| 11:07:07 | Zoide777 | it's not very neatly implemented though (i bet it only works on the 4g)_ |
| 11:07:26 | Zoide777 | (i mean my thing hehe) |
| 11:07:27 | safetydan | LinusN, It does look good and I like the idea |
| 11:09:23 | safetydan | It's just annoying when they've made updates but never posted them. |
| 11:09:50 | B4gder | yes indeed |
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| 11:22:33 | Lynx_ | "Add paged scrolling option." Didn't we have this already? |
| 11:22:50 | LinusN | no |
| 11:22:58 | Lynx_ | ah, not as a setting, right? |
| 11:23:16 | perpleXa | hi |
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| 11:27:43 | LinusN | Lynx_: you'll notice what it is when you try it |
| 11:28:55 | perpleXa | which compiler do i need to compile the source? |
| 11:31:27 | B4gder | perpleXa: you tried the docs? |
| 11:31:43 | perpleXa | didnt found it on the page |
| 11:31:54 | B4gder | there's a "for developers" section on the docs page |
| 11:32:07 | perpleXa | maybe i should have a look at it :> |
| 11:32:08 | perpleXa | thx |
| 11:32:15 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 11:32:28 | perpleXa | ty |
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| 11:33:15 | perpleXa | well, i want apev2 tag support, can't someone add that patch by default? :/ |
| 11:33:42 | safetydan | I think APEv2 support is coming, just requires some rejigging of internals to work in the nicest possible way |
| 11:34:30 | perpleXa | hm, so i'll just wait :) |
| 11:34:59 | perpleXa | i fucked my gentoo box.. dont wanna compile it with cygwin now :P |
| 11:35:45 | safetydan | Could be a while. |
| 11:36:25 | perpleXa | well, if it's going to be there in this year, i'm fine with it :) |
| 11:37:53 | * | JdGordon is back |
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| 11:41:07 | Zagor | (server upgrade in progress) |
| 11:43:30 | JdGordon | whats the cvs command to get any changed files and revert back to whatever is on the cvs? |
| 11:44:54 | Zagor | JdGordon: rm * && cvs up |
| 11:47:26 | Bg3r | JdGordon just remove the changed files |
| 11:48:06 | JdGordon | ye, i was hopoing there was a more automatic way... |
| 11:48:51 | JdGordon | ok, done :D |
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| 11:55:51 | * | JdGordon needs nooob help again... |
| 11:56:26 | JdGordon | actually forget it |
| 11:56:36 | perpleXa | lol |
| 11:57:02 | perpleXa | i guess you wont if you would have state that question directly :) |
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| 11:57:27 | JdGordon | i cant word the question so i dnot sound like an idiot.. so ill just figure it out :D |
| 11:58:37 | JdGordon | no, i do need help... i need to get the diff of 2 files so it can be used in a patch... cant use cvs diff... |
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| 11:58:55 | JdGordon | anyway.. diff file1 file2 > patch gave a wierd looking output |
| 11:59:00 | JdGordon | not like the cvs diff output |
| 11:59:09 | tucoz | diff -u |
| 11:59:11 | nounours | JdGordon: -Nru |
| 11:59:56 | JdGordon | ta |
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| 12:00:57 | tucoz | I just noticed a minor display bug in the radio screen. If I press select on my h120 it says 'no presets', but the bottom part of the splash is not cleared. That is, below the peak meters. |
| 12:01:39 | JdGordon | ye.. investigating... |
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| 12:05:06 | webguest24 | one question, is rockbox working acceptably for iriver H340?? |
| 12:05:06 | JdGordon | hell ye |
| 12:06:29 | webguest24 | ? |
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| 12:07:30 | tucoz | webguest24: I think you will be satisfied if you installed Rockbox on your h340. |
| 12:07:35 | JdGordon | yes, it works |
| 12:08:22 | webguest24 | aha! nice! what parts are fine and what parts still need developmend for H340? I read in the message board that sound recording is already working |
| 12:08:49 | ashridah | webguest24: there's a list of workign features in the wiki, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/ |
| 12:09:08 | webguest24 | that makes me happy, I waited months for seeing rockbox in my machine, I will try it soon |
| 12:09:11 | tucoz | Rockbox is always in development, and that includes development for the h300 series. |
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| 12:09:36 | t0mas | hi |
| 12:09:46 | tucoz | hello |
| 12:09:46 | webguest24 | one question, I think you can maintain both rockbox and iriver firmware active isn't it? |
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| 12:10:00 | t0mas | webguest24: you can |
| 12:10:12 | webguest24 | perfect! :) |
| 12:10:15 | tucoz | Yes, that is how it's done. You boot the original firmware with a keycombo |
| 12:10:17 | ashridah | webguest24: yes. rockbox provides a bootloader that's patched into iriver's firmware that allows it to boot both |
| 12:10:32 | webguest24 | should I download the latest daily build? |
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| 12:10:43 | t0mas | thats your choise |
| 12:10:51 | t0mas | the latest daily contains all the newes features |
| 12:11:00 | ashridah | webguest24: that's the only one available, but you'll also need to read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot |
| 12:11:12 | t0mas | but it might also contain some bugs... so if you install that... make sure to check back regular to get a new one |
| 12:11:15 | webguest24 | no, I am asking what build should I get, I don't want to destroy my machine :) |
| 12:11:30 | t0mas | ah, it won't destroy it |
| 12:12:01 | ashridah | webguest24: the daily build can't fatally break your unit. rockbox boots from the hard drive, so if rockbox messes up, you can fall back onto iriver's firmware and install a new copy |
| 12:12:09 | ashridah | the bootloader sees to that |
| 12:12:16 | t0mas | you can reboot back to the iriver firmware... but the daily builds can have small bugs... that can make rockbox not do what you want it to |
| 12:12:20 | muesli__ | webguest24 check http://www.misticriver.net/forumdisplay.php?f=137 |
| 12:12:39 | webguest24 | hey people, you are very helpful really thank you |
| 12:12:51 | t0mas | np |
| 12:12:52 | webguest24 | if you tell me I can, I will install rockbox in my H340 |
| 12:13:06 | muesli__ | webguest24 check http://www.misticriver.net/forumdisplay.php?f=137 |
| 12:14:02 | webguest24 | Yes muesli, I have opened the page you gave me |
| 12:14:24 | muesli__ | have a look...ull find everything you need |
| 12:14:37 | tucoz | Do you have an us or international h340? |
| 12:14:42 | webguest24 | I have a lot to read :) I will come back if needed |
| 12:14:56 | webguest24 | I have the american H340 but with korean firmware on it :) |
| 12:15:07 | tucoz | Ok, then it's ok |
| 12:15:16 | webguest24 | version 1.28K |
| 12:15:36 | webguest24 | is there any newer official firmware release I should get? |
| 12:15:45 | webguest24 | or is this one the good one? |
| 12:15:58 | webguest24 | official, not rockbox |
| 12:16:22 | tucoz | Rockbox doesn't care about official firmware. As long as the official is listet on the iriverboot page it is supported |
| 12:16:38 | webguest24 | ah ok :) |
| 12:16:44 | webguest24 | thanks anyway |
| 12:16:49 | webguest24 | I go reading |
| 12:16:50 | webguest24 | bye |
| 12:16:52 | tucoz | Just download the fwpatcher.exe and patch a official hex |
| 12:17:23 | | Part webguest24 |
| 12:17:25 | | Part tucoz |
| 12:18:10 | JdGordon | LinusN: still there? |
| 12:18:19 | LinusN | yup |
| 12:18:35 | JdGordon | ok i split the 2 patches again... http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1431344&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 12:20:02 | LinusN | JdGordon: why have you replaced spaces with TAB? |
| 12:20:18 | LinusN | almost every line differs |
| 12:20:30 | JdGordon | grr.. i thought i set it to use spaces.. not tabs |
| 12:21:01 | LinusN | before you submit a patch, take a look at the patch file to see if it makes sense |
| 12:21:17 | JdGordon | it looks fine here... wordpad has 4 space tabs :D |
| 12:21:35 | B4gder | you'll see several pointless changes |
| 12:21:37 | LinusN | no, the patch file can't look fine |
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| 12:21:57 | LinusN | almost every line is changed in the patch |
| 12:22:37 | LinusN | nah, not every line |
| 12:23:25 | safetydan | can always do cvs diff -buN instead |
| 12:23:35 | LinusN | safetydan: no |
| 12:23:35 | safetydan | but that breaks if you want to keep changes in whitespace |
| 12:24:03 | B4gder | usually a few changes in a patch are like that |
| 12:24:09 | LinusN | with -buN, you still get those nasty TAB's on the lines that have actually changed |
| 12:24:18 | safetydan | true |
| 12:24:58 | safetydan | hrmm... apparently you could do cvs diff −−expand-tabs |
| 12:25:24 | LinusN | or just get a decent editor |
| 12:25:32 | safetydan | vim for life yo! |
| 12:25:42 | LinusN | emacs :-) |
| 12:25:52 | JdGordon | programmers notepad 2 :p |
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| 12:28:10 | JdGordon | grr.. ok, patch updated again.. i changed tabs to spaces and its using \n for line ends |
| 12:30:15 | LinusN | i see you have changed many tags |
| 12:30:32 | LinusN | for example filesize |
| 12:30:36 | JdGordon | ah, ye |
| 12:30:41 | LinusN | why? |
| 12:31:31 | JdGordon | a few.. because im faking an id3 tag, some settings need to get put in a id3 value which doesnt make sense.. so its just so if they use the tag on the wrong screen it wont look wrong |
| 12:31:55 | LinusN | "look wrong"? |
| 12:31:59 | JdGordon | e.g the frequency should be in mhz if its radio and hz in normal |
| 12:32:23 | perpleXa | any plans of making an installer for ipods? |
| 12:32:29 | LinusN | i don't think any wps tags should work in the fm screen if there isn't a perfect match |
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| 12:32:49 | LinusN | they should just be empty imho |
| 12:32:59 | JdGordon | ... more work to do :p |
| 12:33:16 | LinusN | or even have a separate set of tags for the two screens |
| 12:33:21 | * | perpleXa persuades LinusN to apply the apev2 patch to the cvs files |
| 12:33:22 | perpleXa | :) |
| 12:33:35 | LinusN | :) |
| 12:33:49 | B4gder | perpleXa: I doubt it was fixed since you asked just a few hours ago... |
| 12:34:05 | perpleXa | me neither |
| 12:34:13 | perpleXa | i just want someone to add it ;) |
| 12:34:15 | JdGordon | no, coz changing some tags means that its easier to make wps's... ive added 7 radio specific tags.. but it will wps;s will work unchanged with this |
| 12:34:29 | LinusN | "work unchanged"? |
| 12:34:53 | LinusN | why should they work unchanged? |
| 12:35:06 | JdGordon | umm... |
| 12:35:20 | LinusN | there is no concept of title, artist, album, time etc in the fm wps |
| 12:35:40 | JdGordon | so u want every tag that doesnt work in fm to return NULL? |
| 12:35:56 | LinusN | or simply not be translated |
| 12:36:05 | LinusN | like unknown tags do |
| 12:36:08 | * | JdGordon is way to lazy... this is why i did it this way.. |
| 12:36:20 | ashridah | hmm. apparently someone's broken the EFI security on osX for intel, so it'll boot on non-mac machines |
| 12:36:31 | JdGordon | cool |
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| 12:38:25 | perpleXa | ashridah: sounds like i dont have to run osx on pearpc anymore.. with a speed of 1/500 of a real ppc :) |
| 12:38:31 | LinusN | JdGordon: if i were you, i would extend the wps_data struct to include fmradio specific data |
| 12:38:59 | JdGordon | ye ok.. |
| 12:39:55 | LinusN | hmm, wait a sec |
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| 12:42:50 | LinusN | JdGordon: please don't zip the files |
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| 12:43:21 | JdGordon | i did it coz sf only lets u upload 1 file at a time.. coz they suk |
| 12:44:09 | * | LinusN silences the l33t-spk detector |
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| 12:44:19 | webguest59 | Hi |
| 12:44:32 | webguest59 | Im very pleased I got the Rockbox bootloader and Rockbox itself on my iPod Video! |
| 12:44:57 | JdGordon | its gonna be a HUGE pain to disable all the invalid tags on the radio screen... u really sure u want that? |
| 12:45:11 | LinusN | why would it be a pain? |
| 12:45:49 | Bg3r | but... ? :) |
| 12:45:58 | webguest59 | all iPodbox needs is a little polish and it would be awesome! |
| 12:46:10 | B4gder | webguest59: join in and make it happen! |
| 12:46:28 | webguest59 | lol if only I could program! (which I can't!) |
| 12:46:28 | JdGordon | e.g the 'p' case (Playlist/Song Information) i was about to just break out of it.. but no.. the time and volume and stuff is under that.. each sub case needs to be escaped individually.. |
| 12:46:38 | webguest59 | However I've been using Rockbox since it first came out on the Archos |
| 12:47:06 | webguest59 | Would the Crossfader and the forthcoming EQ work on the iPod? |
| 12:47:07 | LinusN | JdGordon: break it up into two switch() branches |
| 12:47:21 | LinusN | one with the radio tags and one with the regular ones |
| 12:47:22 | B4gder | webguest59: yeps |
| 12:47:37 | safetydan | webguest59, forthcoming EQ? it's already there and working :) |
| 12:48:00 | webguest59 | yea well I've just got iPodbox on my iPod and the EQ seemed to have no effect |
| 12:48:11 | LinusN | JdGordon: and then you only handle the "R" tags in the radio case |
| 12:48:26 | safetydan | webguest59, it's switched on right? |
| 12:48:55 | JdGordon | u mean switch on the screen type? |
| 12:49:04 | LinusN | if (wps_state.wps_type==WPS_TYPE_REGULAR) |
| 12:49:17 | LinusN | /* handle regular WPS */ |
| 12:49:18 | LinusN | else |
| 12:49:24 | LinusN | /* handle radio wps */ |
| 12:49:36 | webguest59 | I;ll have another look |
| 12:49:55 | webguest59 | I would like to make my own colourful WPS |
| 12:50:25 | webguest59 | with some nice gradient effects on the text |
| 12:52:16 | LinusN | lunch time |
| 12:52:27 | JdGordon | bon apatite |
| 12:54:44 | webguest59 | Will iPodbox also support photos and videos? |
| 12:55:04 | B4gder | it will support everything someone writes code for |
| 12:55:14 | B4gder | currently it shows jpegs in greyscale |
| 12:55:18 | B4gder | and there's no video |
| 12:56:07 | webguest59 | ok |
| 12:56:28 | webguest59 | but I like the way that iPodbox does not use the itunes database |
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| 13:10:44 | webguest59 | yea I got the EQ working |
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| 13:30:41 | * | safetydan wonders if someone is going to get worked up enough over the dB issue to fork Rockbox |
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| 13:32:20 | Nuxator | hello all |
| 13:32:37 | Nuxator | can someone help me with cygwin dev? |
| 13:32:41 | B4gder | safetydan: I doubt it, we move at a very high speed so maintaining a fork is a true pain |
| 13:33:01 | Nuxator | i made a clean install foloowing rockbox website in struction |
| 13:33:07 | Nuxator | but i get an cc1 not found |
| 13:33:15 | B4gder | gosh |
| 13:33:31 | B4gder | Nuxator when you do what? |
| 13:33:38 | Nuxator | now |
| 13:34:03 | Nuxator | when i try to build sdl simultator h1x0 |
| 13:34:48 | Nuxator | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory |
| 13:35:17 | B4gder | you seem to have gotten a screwed up gcc install |
| 13:35:20 | safetydan | Did cygwin break something recently or are those instructions wrong? |
| 13:35:43 | LinusN | Nuxator: install from a different cygwin mirror |
| 13:36:03 | Nuxator | ok i'll make another clean install |
| 13:36:08 | Nuxator | any mirror to suggest |
| 13:37:24 | LinusN | ftp.sunet.se works fine |
| 13:38:43 | Nuxator | ok |
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| 13:48:30 | Rob2222 | LinusN: Do you think your USB changing on H300 could change the battery life? (should i make a bench?) |
| 13:51:03 | safetydan | Speaking of CVS visualisations (or at least someone was on the forums). Has anyone looked at http://www.cenqua.com/fisheye/ ? |
| 13:52:16 | B4gder | nope |
| 13:52:37 | safetydan | "free" for opensource projects |
| 13:52:44 | B4gder | yeah "please apply for a license." |
| 13:53:45 | safetydan | It's pretty much just ViewCVS on steroids. But if you were going to add CVS visualisation, that's what I'd look at. |
| 13:54:08 | B4gder | I don't really see what good it offers |
| 13:54:15 | B4gder | except for some amusing stats |
| 13:54:17 | safetydan | Shiny graphs? |
| 13:54:22 | LinusN | Rob2222: it is *possible* |
| 13:54:24 | safetydan | RSS feed for change sets? |
| 13:54:29 | B4gder | I like graphs, I do |
| 13:54:49 | safetydan | Not advocating, just offering if someone an option was of a mind to do it. |
| 13:54:54 | safetydan | Don't see too much value in it |
| 13:55:50 | B4gder | me neither |
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| 13:56:43 | Nuxator | ok it works now thanks |
| 13:57:11 | safetydan | boy did my second last sentence not make any sense |
| 13:58:28 | ashridah | hahaha |
| 13:58:35 | Cassandra | Do we have a Rockbox slogan at all? |
| 13:58:46 | safetydan | "Catch the digital flow"? |
| 13:58:55 | B4gder | "eat the digital cow" |
| 13:58:55 | Zagor | "How hard can it be?" |
| 13:58:59 | Nuxator | that's Iriver's |
| 13:59:19 | Cassandra | I like eat the digital cow. |
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| 13:59:44 | * | Cassandra ponders. "Your music. Your choice." |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:01 | Cassandra | "Rockbox: because fair use is not theft" |
| 14:01:08 | Nuxator | Rockbox because most mp3 firmware are not that god |
| 14:01:18 | Nuxator | good |
| 14:01:25 | B4gder | Rockbox: "A coffee break well spent" |
| 14:01:34 | Nuxator | ^^ |
| 14:01:48 | * | Cassandra is looking for something snappy to get laser engraved on an iPod that I'm not in any way thinking about buying. |
| 14:01:59 | safetydan | Rockbox: It really whips your DAPs existing firmware's ass. |
| 14:02:03 | safetydan | not very catchy |
| 14:02:03 | Lynx_ | Rockbox: make your player break it's limits! |
| 14:02:20 | B4gder | Rockbox: "Persons without lives improve your life" |
| 14:02:26 | Nuxator | Rockbox sounds good and beyond |
| 14:02:32 | Lynx_ | hehe |
| 14:02:36 | Cassandra | safetydan, that's almost as bad as "Rockbox inside" or "Make your box rock" |
| 14:02:37 | Zagor | "Rockbox: make your player break"? ;-) |
| 14:02:38 | safetydan | Is it real or is Rockbox? |
| 14:02:41 | safetydan | is it |
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| 14:02:56 | petur | Rockbox. Plays music and more |
| 14:03:00 | Cassandra | "Musique sans frontieres" |
| 14:03:12 | B4gder | now we're talking! |
| 14:03:24 | Lynx_ | Rockbox: more options than you can shake stick at |
| 14:03:41 | B4gder | "enough to make your kids dizzy" |
| 14:03:52 | Cassandra | But I don't have any kids. |
| 14:03:55 | simisu | i just stopped by to say thanks for making Rockbox!!! |
| 14:04:01 | Lynx_ | Rockbox: regain control over you backlight |
| 14:04:05 | B4gder | hehe |
| 14:04:18 | simisu | to anyone that's involved with it... really... thanks!!! |
| 14:04:20 | safetydan | There's always the "golden quotes", Rockbox: Sounds like a bag of sh*t |
| 14:04:21 | B4gder | simisu: you're welcome, ending up in the midst of silly slogan attempts |
| 14:04:24 | Cassandra | simisu, you're very welcome. I did most of the work. Don't believe what these others saY. |
| 14:04:34 | B4gder | haha |
| 14:04:38 | simisu | :) |
| 14:04:41 | * | B4gder bows in the presence of Cassandra |
| 14:04:50 | Cassandra | safetydan, I'm not sure I'd want that immortalised. |
| 14:05:06 | Cassandra | Although the other GoldenQuote is good. |
| 14:05:39 | safetydan | Not short enough though. Isn't the engraving limit 60 characters or something? |
| 14:05:41 | simisu | i'm gonna update to the latest in a few minuts and if that scrolling issue is not fixed i'm coming right back to bash you all :O) |
| 14:05:54 | B4gder | simisu: that's the spirit! ;-P |
| 14:06:21 | B4gder | Rockbox: "software for whiners" |
| 14:06:27 | B4gder | *g* |
| 14:06:47 | Cassandra | rockbox: It sucks since they changed the volume |
| 14:06:50 | safetydan | Rockbox: Volume is measured in dB dammit |
| 14:06:57 | LinusN | "Rockbox: simply better" |
| 14:07:15 | Cassandra | LinusN, there's nothing simple about Rockbox. ;) |
| 14:07:15 | Lynx_ | Rockbox: One size fits all* *supported devices may not be in production anymore |
| 14:07:16 | Nuxator | Rockbox : your dap wil be everlasting |
| 14:07:17 | simisu | rockbox: should i bother with the original? |
| 14:07:19 | safetydan | Someone has to ruin it by making a sensible suggestion :) |
| 14:08:36 | Lynx_ | Rockbox: for all you DAP gaming needs |
| 14:08:41 | Lynx_ | s/you/your |
| 14:09:33 | petur | rocks your box more than the original firmware |
| 14:09:40 | Cassandra | Rockbox: because MP3 players so needed a DOOM port. |
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| 14:11:49 | petur | Rockbox: gets the best out of your DAP! |
| 14:14:13 | Nuxator | Rockbox you dap is now pda |
| 14:15:10 | petur | ... goes where no DAP firmware has gone before ... |
| 14:15:34 | Moos | Rockbox: your DAP improving everyday |
| 14:16:02 | petur | Rockbox: and your DAP suddenly becomes usefull |
| 14:16:22 | Moos | :-) |
| 14:17:26 | LinusN | "rockbox: doesn't suck as much" |
| 14:17:37 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 14:17:56 | Cassandra | Finding new ways to make MP3 players suck. ;) |
| 14:18:23 | B4gder | "makes use of your paperclips" |
| 14:18:34 | petur | hahaha |
| 14:18:37 | Moos | haha :D |
| 14:18:46 | Cassandra | 27 characters/line, apparently. |
| 14:18:51 | Cassandra | That's not much. |
| 14:19:03 | petur | "makes you bend a paperclip" |
| 14:20:07 | Cassandra | Rockbox: WTFM |
| 14:20:39 | Nuxator | A serious querstion |
| 14:20:57 | Cassandra | NooooOooooo! |
| 14:20:57 | Nuxator | is there any battery control before spining the hd on iriver? |
| 14:21:20 | LinusN | no |
| 14:22:02 | Nuxator | because on iriver if write fail it automaticly switch off but when tryiong to fill buffer it doesn't |
| 14:22:16 | Nuxator | so my h140 is ticking because of failed spin up |
| 14:23:09 | Nuxator | i think it isn't good for hd life |
| 14:23:28 | B4gder | I'd suggest you consider charging |
| 14:23:44 | Nuxator | sure ^^ but sometimes i'll let music play |
| 14:24:01 | Cassandra | Actually we already have an unofficial slogan, thinking about it. |
| 14:24:07 | Cassandra | "It'll be done when it's done." |
| 14:24:29 | Nuxator | it sound's likge duke nukem |
| 14:24:56 | Cassandra | Except we do actually release code. |
| 14:25:10 | Cassandra | We just don't make any promises when. |
| 14:25:58 | petur | Rockbox: you never knew your DAP could do |
| 14:26:04 | Nuxator | so i think it shoulb be an protection : if spinning fails more than x times force switch off |
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| 14:26:45 | B4gder | I bet it won't be able to try very many times until it doesn't even have power for trying ;-) |
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| 14:27:31 | Nuxator | yes it has |
| 14:27:41 | Nuxator | mine player can try to spin up for minutes |
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| 14:32:05 | Nuxator | I'mmaking a test |
| 14:32:15 | Nuxator | i managed to boot qith low battery |
| 14:32:33 | Nuxator | disk tried to spin 3 or 4 times before it could load firmware |
| 14:33:00 | Nuxator | looks like it can pin and read few bits before failing |
| 14:34:10 | Nuxator | my battery is at 3.36v |
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| 14:39:21 | simisu | so yeah.... i'm back and scrolling is still flaky as hell... when scrolling fast songs stop playing and continue once scrolling stops... sometimes if i want to stop at a certine dir it will start to back up then go further and if i try to change direction again the screen starts to flicker (all black as if i haven't tuched it for a while) |
| 14:41:32 | simisu | and also it's not as fast as its supposed to be..... (sometimes it is though... in the last build if i was playing a song then scrolling would be in the set speed (fast) but right now even when playing it's not fast...) |
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| 14:53:28 | simisu | scratch that last bit... when playing a song it does fit the set speed... still when no song is playing scrolling is slow! |
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| 14:54:31 | Zagor | ow crap, sorry lads... |
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| 14:54:52 | Zagor | sorry simisu, I restarted the web server |
| 14:55:13 | Zagor | the different speeds you see is because the firmware is clocking the cpu at different speeds depending on how much power is needed |
| 14:55:17 | simisu | that's ok... |
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| 14:55:57 | simisu | but then why would it be slower when NOT playing? |
| 14:56:24 | Zagor | because when not playing, we don't need as much cpu. so we lower the speed to save battery. |
| 14:56:30 | simisu | also screen goes off while scrolling is not really friendly... |
| 14:56:40 | * | t0mas is away: to the gym |
| 14:56:50 | Zagor | simisu: agreed |
| 14:56:54 | simisu | so it's on purpose? |
| 14:57:40 | Zagor | well, ideally the scrolling should adapt to the current speed so it's not as noticeable |
| 14:57:46 | simisu | i want to scroll as fast as i can... i have one huge dir with loads of cds... doesn't make sense to limit it when i can actualy set it the way I want it! |
| 14:58:15 | Zagor | if we don't limit the speed, we limit battery life. you can't get everything. |
| 14:58:34 | LinusN | simisu: you mean the backlight goes off when you hold a button to scroll? |
| 14:59:27 | simisu | yup back light goes off... and if scrolling continues it actualy flickers untill scrolling stops (and then it's just a black screen untill you tuch it again) |
| 14:59:45 | simisu | although i |
| 14:59:46 | LinusN | haha, which platform? |
| 14:59:47 | simisu | ... |
| 14:59:59 | simisu | Iriver H340 |
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| 15:00:08 | LinusN | that's a nice bug |
| 15:00:36 | simisu | although i'm not sure if it's while pressing or when i've already stopped pushing it and it just goes on scrolling... |
| 15:00:58 | LinusN | better make sure before filing a bug report |
| 15:01:40 | LinusN | time to go, cu |
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| 15:02:11 | Zagor | FYI: I'll be restarting the web server again in a minute |
| 15:02:23 | simisu | haha... ok.... |
| 15:02:37 | Zagor | installing some new modules |
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| 15:26:15 | safetydan | Either it's really slow deleting things on the H120 or something's wrong. Should it take five minutes (and counting) to delete a 300 Mb directory? |
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| 15:28:43 | Bg3r | safetydan how much files |
| 15:29:20 | safetydan | 10000 apparently |
| 15:29:23 | safetydan | that's probably why |
| 15:29:33 | safetydan | unlinking each of those is going to take a while |
| 15:29:39 | Cassandra | Given a choice between KLM and SAS, which is better? |
| 15:31:07 | Bg3r | safetydan try this on a PC with DOS without <how was called its cache driver> ... |
| 15:32:14 | petur | smartdrive? |
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| 15:33:54 | safetydan | smartdrive sounds right |
| 15:33:59 | Bg3r | ah, yes |
| 15:34:04 | safetydan | It's a bit annoying since I can't do anything else to it at the moment |
| 15:34:09 | safetydan | no volume, stop, track change or anything |
| 15:34:13 | safetydan | so I've got one song stuck on loop |
| 15:34:16 | safetydan | that'll teach me |
| 15:34:33 | * | petur is amazed his memory still works after a lousy night in a 'sleeping bus' |
| 15:35:04 | Bg3r | :) |
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| 15:43:51 | safetydan | be nice if you could abort file operations |
| 15:43:55 | safetydan | (yes the delete is still going) |
| 15:45:58 | petur | who keeps 10000 files of 30KB on a DAP anyway? ;) |
| 15:46:19 | safetydan | me |
| 15:46:22 | safetydan | by accident |
| 15:46:24 | safetydan | woo |
| 15:46:26 | safetydan | it finished |
| 15:46:52 | safetydan | 25 minutes that took |
| 15:50:01 | * | Cassandra pokes the Swedes. Any preference between SAS and KLM for flying? |
| 15:50:43 | safetydan | Not Swede but flew SAS once. It was okay. About BA level of service. No food though in economy |
| 15:50:53 | safetydan | Or at least not free food. |
| 15:51:00 | petur | isn't SAS more expensive? |
| 15:51:17 | muesli__ | Cassandra klm crashes more often ;) |
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| 15:52:20 | Cassandra | petur, they're actually about the same for the flight I want. |
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| 16:06:26 | Sanitarium | is there a visual basic chanell here on freenode? |
| 16:09:20 | Lynx_ | is there any information on the wiki on wps's and themes? |
| 16:13:19 | XavierGr | Bg3r: Are you here? |
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| 16:14:40 | safetydan | Lynx_, like this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS ? |
| 16:22:51 | Lynx_ | safetydan: yes, thanks |
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| 16:30:35 | Sanitarium | you know rockbox downloader? |
| 16:30:41 | Sanitarium | anyone got the source to that? |
| 16:32:32 | XavierGr | ask Cassandra |
| 16:32:37 | XavierGr | or Membrillio |
| 16:32:41 | XavierGr | there are 2 at the moment |
| 16:32:47 | Sanitarium | hhm |
| 16:32:48 | Sanitarium | thanks |
| 16:32:54 | Sanitarium | i PM'd membrillo |
| 16:33:02 | Sanitarium | cassandra here? |
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| 17:04:20 | webguest80 | there should be a rockbox for the iPos Shuffle :-) |
| 17:04:49 | muesli__ | yeah...with customizable wps ;-) |
| 17:05:01 | Sanitarium | and make it not shuffle |
| 17:05:01 | Sanitarium | :D |
| 17:05:13 | muesli__ | anti-shuffle-patch ;) |
| 17:05:23 | webguest80 | lol |
| 17:05:36 | Mikachu | maybe you could at least get some more formats supported |
| 17:05:42 | webguest80 | yea |
| 17:05:55 | webguest80 | perhaps the Shuffle is entirely hardware driven |
| 17:07:08 | webguest80 | well I am impressed with Rockbox's initial layout on the iPod |
| 17:07:42 | PaulJ | I have a question: how can i start the sdl simulator with the player image and not only the screen? |
| 17:08:46 | safetydan | PaulJ, ./rockboxui −−background |
| 17:10:05 | PaulJ | ah, thank you |
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| 17:29:01 | * | safetydan starts looking Shebb's playlist patch |
| 17:29:19 | safetydan | this could take a while |
| 17:29:25 | safetydan | patch doesn't apply anymore |
| 17:35:17 | linuxstb | safetydan: Thanks for fixing the key mappings in the ipod sims. |
| 17:41:55 | * | ghode|afk hugs his shiney new 60gb 5G |
| 17:42:14 | ghode|afk | now to isntall rocbox or itunes first :/ |
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| 17:59:24 | bluey | is it possible to load ipl with rockloader? |
| 17:59:41 | Mikachu | yes, just put linux.bin in your fat32 / |
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| 18:01:58 | bluey | k |
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| 18:03:12 | Scatha | hi |
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| 18:11:27 | safetydan | linuxstb, no worries. I like easy fixes :) |
| 18:12:24 | bluey | Mickachu: how exactly? rb loads automaticly Rockbox |
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| 18:17:42 | linuxstb_ | bluey: If you want to start IPL, you need to press and hold PLAY when your iPod is booting. Note that you have to press it _very_ early, just before the apple logo appears. |
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| 18:18:49 | bluey | ok works thx |
| 18:19:19 | bluey | great kernelpanic =) |
| 18:19:58 | linuxstb | That probably means it can't find your ext2 partition. |
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| 18:25:00 | webguest24 | any hopes for the w32 sims? |
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| 18:26:33 | safetydan | webguest24, if I get a chance to reboot in to Windows I'll take a look at the problem |
| 18:26:39 | safetydan | but I'd say try and get the SDL sim to work first |
| 18:27:00 | webguest24 | alternatively, can the sdl sim be cross-compiled for windows, on linux? |
| 18:27:26 | safetydan | not at the moment |
| 18:27:30 | webguest24 | gotcha |
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| 18:27:52 | webguest24 | I guess I'll just use it on linux (not too keen on installing cygwin) |
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| 19:02:25 | tidejp | Hello everyone... I am not new to Rockbox world neither looking for any answers here.... |
| 19:03:26 | tidejp | in fact I just would like to take some minutes before going to bed here in Japan to thank you all for your efforts in porting and creating a wonderful rockbox version to the h300's! |
| 19:03:34 | tidejp | thank you all! |
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| 19:03:46 | Mikachu | oyasuminasai :) |
| 19:03:54 | tidejp | oyasuminasai! |
| 19:03:58 | tidejp | :-) |
| 19:04:12 | tidejp | soshite, honto ni arigato!! |
| 19:04:19 | tidejp | Rockbox no minasama! |
| 19:06:45 | tidejp | and good luck on the rockbox conference, Linus and all of you that are taking part on it. |
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| 20:13:19 | safetydan | okay, I vote linuxstb for the "Most unreliable connection" award |
| 20:13:31 | mymomthelush | aye |
| 20:14:33 | yeahx | worse than undernet? |
| 20:14:49 | * | t0mas votes for himself |
| 20:14:58 | t0mas | last 2 days I had 4 disconnects... |
| 20:15:06 | t0mas | all over 10 minutes |
| 20:15:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think linuxstb averages about one every 2 hours. |
| 20:15:15 | XavierGr | haha |
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| 20:15:23 | t0mas | but he has short ones ;) |
| 20:15:30 | XavierGr | I don't have disconnects but I have the crappiest DSL connection |
| 20:15:34 | * | t0mas uses BNC so I don't quit IRC |
| 20:15:50 | XavierGr | My ISP will not allow me to sent more than 20 packets pre second |
| 20:15:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I have cable internet, and it actually works okay |
| 20:15:57 | linuxstb | I blame my dodge ADSL microfilter - I lose the connection whenever a phone call is started and finished. |
| 20:16:05 | XavierGr | Imagine trying to p2p, online gaming or VoIP. |
| 20:16:10 | t0mas | linuxstb: that sucks... |
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| 20:16:21 | t0mas | XavierGr: and fragmentation ;) |
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| 20:16:27 | t0mas | try sending 1501 bytes |
| 20:16:30 | t0mas | thats 2 packets ;) |
| 20:16:42 | XavierGr | you get the idea.... |
| 20:16:55 | XavierGr | I can have better VoIP with dial-up than aDSL |
| 20:17:10 | * | t0mas never had problems before... |
| 20:17:15 | t0mas | and today everything was fine too |
| 20:17:22 | XavierGr | and I pay 40 euros / month for 384kbps down and 128kbps up!!!!!! |
| 20:17:34 | t0mas | damn |
| 20:17:56 | t0mas | 40 for 4 mbps down and 1 mbps up |
| 20:17:56 | XavierGr | (with packet limiting that even my ISP doesn't know how to fix, oh and this is like half of the Greece not only me) |
| 20:18:19 | t0mas | with great ping times |
| 20:18:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | I get 4500kbps down, apparently. |
| 20:18:37 | XavierGr | nah my ping times are more than 150 for normal sites. |
| 20:18:37 | t0mas | and business services because I wanted 4/1 instead of 8/0.5 |
| 20:18:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which is odd, since I'm supposed to be getting about 2/3 of that, as a maximum. |
| 20:18:45 | XavierGr | I am jealous |
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| 20:19:10 | t0mas | google.nl: |
| 20:19:12 | t0mas | Antwoord van 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 tijd=12 ms TTL=244 |
| 20:19:26 | t0mas | (Windows in dutch ghehe) |
| 20:19:29 | t0mas | google.com |
| 20:19:35 | t0mas | Antwoord van 66.249.93.99: bytes=32 tijd=15 ms TTL=244 |
| 20:21:06 | t0mas | Paul_The_Nerd: a friend of me has that too... but "worse" he has a 4/1 adsl2 connection, with voip telephone on the same line... and het gets about 1,6 MB/s so that's more than 10 mbit... |
| 20:21:34 | t0mas | upload is lower than the 1 mbit he should get... but he's not running any servers... so he doesn't care |
| 20:22:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | t0mas: Actually, on off hours, I've gotten about 1.6MB/s downloading on a few torrents. It's not a peak hour right now, but it's also very definitely not the same as say, 4AM |
| 20:23:43 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 20:24:05 | yeahx | I have comcast and I hardly go over 200k |
| 20:24:14 | t0mas | yeahx: adsl or cable? |
| 20:24:27 | t0mas | Paul_The_Nerd: and upstream? |
| 20:24:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | 384kbps. Pretty miserable. |
| 20:24:42 | yeahx | my voip limits my connection some so I should get a router but it doesnt limit it that much |
| 20:24:45 | yeahx | cable |
| 20:24:57 | yeahx | I think I need to ask them about that because Im paying too much |
| 20:25:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | But, since I don't *need* upstream, it's not a big deal. |
| 20:25:03 | t0mas | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah... that is slow... |
| 20:25:35 | t0mas | well... I switched from 8/0.5 to 4/1 just because I don't download that much... and I'm running some servers here |
| 20:25:42 | yeahx | Id consider buying my own modem if it wasnt too expensive and if I thought it would make it better |
| 20:25:46 | yeahx | so I might ask them |
| 20:25:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, I'm paying for the cheapest "cable internet" package they had. I don't even remember what I was supposed to get any more, but I know my down is much higher, and my up isn't low enough to cause me problems gaming, so I'm happy enough |
| 20:26:00 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 20:27:34 | t0mas | hmz... |
| 20:27:38 | t0mas | anybody seen this warning: |
| 20:27:39 | t0mas | http://www.rockbox.org/~tomas/showlog.cgi?date=2006-02-14%2011%3A47%3A06&type=FM%20Recorder%20-%20Simulator |
| 20:27:45 | t0mas | and the same here: http://www.rockbox.org/~tomas/showlog.cgi?date=2006-02-14%2018%3A34%3A59&type=Ondio%20FM%20-%20Simulator |
| 20:27:57 | t0mas | Ondio SDL sim and FM recorder sim |
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| 20:31:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does anyone in here know much about headphones? |
| 20:32:25 | yeahx | I know a little |
| 20:32:29 | yeahx | they make sound |
| 20:32:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 20:33:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't have money for "nice" ones at the moment, but my current ones are dying, so I'm looking for like $25 or less "decent" ones, and have no idea where to start. |
| 20:33:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | People have suggestions *all* over the place for more costly ones |
| 20:33:33 | yeahx | and mine sound good but they have to be put backwords and upside down to fit right |
| 20:33:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 20:34:10 | yeahx | the ones I have sound great and are around that price |
| 20:34:58 | * | t0mas has simple Sony ones for my day to day listening |
| 20:35:06 | t0mas | E 19,95 |
| 20:35:13 | t0mas | sound great for that price |
| 20:35:31 | yeahx | but for me the longer wire is on the wrong side so I put them in the wrong ears and to get them to stay in and not hurt I turn the stems up and forward a little and put the cord around my ears :) |
| 20:36:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm looking at some Koss ones. |
| 20:36:59 | yeahx | eeew |
| 20:37:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Eeew? |
| 20:37:33 | yeahx | I thought they would be good because they basically invented headphones, but I havent liked their cheaper ones |
| 20:38:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | See, I'm reading a lot of people saying fairly good things about these, and they're $13.99 |
| 20:39:38 | yeahx | interesting |
| 20:40:02 | XavierGr | Bger are you here? |
| 20:40:05 | yeahx | the ones that came with my old rio were alright but their inner ear ones with expanding foam sucked |
| 20:41:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, these are the over the ear, but not full size types. Y'know, flat round pad. |
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| 20:48:17 | t0mas | linuxstb: you really are going for the disconnect record.... |
| 20:49:09 | Febs | Paul_The_Nerd, Koss KSC-75 are a great value for the price (about $20 USD). They're open headphones (clip on), so they don't block outside sounds. They're highly recommended at head-fi.org. |
| 20:49:23 | linuxstb | t0mas: :) I've just ordered myself a new ADSL microfilter. Hopefully that will fix my disconnect problems. |
| 20:49:30 | Febs | Koss "The Plug," on the other hand, are (IMHO) terrible. |
| 20:50:10 | t0mas | linuxstb: I'm happy that SSH connections are fairly trouble-proof |
| 20:50:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Febs: I was looking at the KTXPRO1s. I'm more a fan of the ones that go over the top of the head, as clip ons eventually drive me nuts. |
| 20:50:33 | linuxstb | t0mas: Well, I'm a good test for your build system... |
| 20:50:37 | t0mas | jup |
| 20:50:44 | t0mas | it reported your server as failing just once |
| 20:50:48 | t0mas | and skipped it without problems |
| 20:50:52 | Febs | I'm not familiar with that model. |
| 20:52:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | It sounds pretty similar to the KSC75, but in an over the head "portable stereophones" form factor, from the look of their description |
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| 20:53:32 | yeahx | thats it, the plug, lots of hype but totally crap |
| 20:54:57 | Febs | Just did a quick Google on the KTXpro1. I'm guessing that it's the same driver as the KSC75 but in an over-the-head version. For $14, you really can't go wrong. |
| 20:55:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. |
| 20:55:34 | Febs | If you want to get into the next pricing tier, Sennheiser PX100 and Koss Portapros are both fairly well regarded, with the PX100 probably getting the edge. |
| 20:56:19 | Febs | (just so you know, I've owned both The Plug and the KSC75 ... my other recommendations are based on what other people have reported.) |
| 20:56:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I actually want some fairly good ones, but right now, I want to buy the cheapest ones that won't cause me pain until then |
| 20:57:48 | Mikachu | am i stupid or can't you zoom in apples jpeg (photo) viewer on the nano? |
| 20:57:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't believe you can |
| 20:58:03 | Mikachu | that's pretty impressive |
| 20:59:20 | yeahx | I had some of those senheiser px100's |
| 20:59:37 | yeahx | they are nice |
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| 21:00:55 | thegeek_ | Febs : just how comfortable is the whole clip-on thing ? |
| 21:01:01 | thegeek_ | I've already got a pair of shure e3's |
| 21:01:39 | thegeek_ | not sure if I need the ksc-75's ;) |
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| 21:05:37 | Alienkind | Is this the right place to participate in the port of rockbox to the gigabeat player ? I would like to learn more about the status on that matter... |
| 21:11:28 | webguest10 | Paul_The_Nerd: check these out as well - http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Panasonic-Back-Band-Headphones-RP-HG17-/sem/rpsm/oid/68198/catOid/-12938/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do |
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| 21:11:54 | XavierGr | Someone claims on MR that he run Half-Life on H300 |
| 21:12:06 | XavierGr | Seems a troll to me casue there is no link or screenshot |
| 21:12:14 | XavierGr | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=393492&posted=1#post393492 |
| 21:12:15 | webguest10 | Not audiophile quality but well worth $15... |
| 21:12:17 | ghode|afk | heh funny |
| 21:12:27 | ghode|afk | they are just using a doom2.wad |
| 21:12:38 | ghode|afk | same thing happened when someone ported doom to the psp |
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| 21:13:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | XavierGr: I think it's a Half-Life mod for Doom |
| 21:14:27 | Febs | thegeek_, I wear glasses, so I'm not very fond of the clip-on. It gets annoying after a while. With the E3s, you probably don't need the KSC75 unless you need an open headphone for situations where the isolation of the E3s doesn't work for you. |
| 21:15:07 | thegeek_ | mhm |
| 21:15:30 | thegeek_ | I was getting a little bored with my e3's, but with the equalizer I love them once again |
| 21:15:45 | yeahx | arent those the pricey ones? |
| 21:15:49 | thegeek_ | this is actually my third pair, thanks god for warranty returns;) |
| 21:15:59 | thegeek_ | depends what you mean with pricey;) |
| 21:16:08 | yeahx | $100+ |
| 21:16:10 | thegeek_ | yes |
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| 21:16:46 | thegeek_ | I think I paid 130? without shipping |
| 21:16:56 | thegeek_ | used a rebate code though |
| 21:17:34 | Febs | 130 is about the going rate, if you're talking USD. |
| 21:17:36 | yeahx | cant get backlight to turn off |
| 21:17:48 | Febs | E4s can be had for about $180 USD. |
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| 21:17:56 | yeahx | on a nano |
| 21:18:02 | yeahx | dang that sucks |
| 21:18:20 | thegeek_ | this was 2 years ago Febs;) |
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| 21:18:30 | thegeek_ | back then it was a very good price for them;) |
| 21:18:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | yeahx: What's the backlight time out set to? |
| 21:18:33 | yeahx | senheisers were $50 and thats the most Ive paid for headphones, they were stolen so now I suffer |
| 21:18:42 | thegeek_ | hehe |
| 21:18:57 | yeahx | Ive tried it different settings, I have it on 5 now |
| 21:18:59 | thegeek_ | after getting the e3's I got bitten with the audio bug |
| 21:19:08 | thegeek_ | and got the sennheiser 595's |
| 21:19:10 | thegeek_ | a dac |
| 21:19:18 | thegeek_ | and built myself a headphone amp (m3) |
| 21:19:58 | yeahx | when I set backlight to off it still comes on |
| 21:20:39 | yeahx | and stays on |
| 21:23:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Weird. I've never had any backlight issues with mine. |
| 21:25:15 | imphasing | I have this nice pair of studio cans that are REALLY good. |
| 21:25:22 | imphasing | I hate in ear ones though |
| 21:25:46 | ghode|afk | hmm can anyone answer a quick itunes q? does itunes have to have the exact same song db as the ipod? |
| 21:26:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | How do you mean? |
| 21:26:45 | linuxstb | I think you can sync subsets of the itunes database. |
| 21:26:47 | ghode|afk | can i have a different set of songs on my ipod, and in itunes? |
| 21:26:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 21:27:28 | ghode|afk | since i would prefer to keep all my music on my ipod and nothing on my pc, i dont want itunes to wipe my player each time i plug it in |
| 21:28:08 | yeahx | Paul_The_Nerd: your using a nano? |
| 21:28:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | ghode|afk: I think it's possible, though I don't really know how, since I didn't use iTunes much, and I don't use it at all since rockbox |
| 21:28:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | yeahx: Yes |
| 21:28:45 | yeahx | yeh you turn off the sync setting |
| 21:28:56 | yeahx | are you using the lattest build or older one? |
| 21:29:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | yeahx: Doesn't have the last two commits, but neither of those should affect it |
| 21:29:39 | ghode|afk | yeah i was hoping to make a transistion from my h140 but playback isnt 100% yet so i thought i'd see what all this itunes fuss is about |
| 21:29:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | ghode|afk: Define "isn't 100% yet" |
| 21:30:18 | ghode|afk | skipping like crazy on the 5g |
| 21:30:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 21:30:36 | yeahx | maybe I should get the older build then? |
| 21:30:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | 5g, gotcha |
| 21:30:38 | ghode|afk | i think i adopted too soon >< |
| 21:30:41 | linuxstb | ghode|afk: What kind of files are you playing? |
| 21:30:45 | yeahx | what nano do you have? |
| 21:30:52 | ghode|afk | but i waited for the h140 i can wait for this |
| 21:31:09 | ghode|afk | linuxstb: 192kbps mp3 |
| 21:31:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | yeahx: 4 gig. Shouldn't make a difference, unless the 1gigs have some hardware changes |
| 21:31:17 | linuxstb | ghode|afk: VBR? |
| 21:31:21 | yeahx | I have a 2gb |
| 21:31:22 | ghode|afk | yes |
| 21:31:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | yeahx: Identical in all ways 'cept for the storage then |
| 21:32:09 | yeahx | when was the last time you updated? |
| 21:32:15 | linuxstb | OK. It works with 192kbps CBR files, so obvious the peaks in bitrate are too much for the CPU at the moment. You could try having an extremely simple WPS, and make sure there is no peakmeter. |
| 21:32:27 | yeahx | I dont know what you mean by doesnt have the last 2 commits |
| 21:33:29 | ghode|afk | linuxstb: this was with boxes, which is pretty simple. but i can give the default a try |
| 21:33:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | yeahx: As in, my version doesn't have the last two changes made, one of which is a language update, and the other only affects simulator builds |
| 21:33:48 | ghode|afk | yeahx: <yeahx> yeh you turn off the sync setting > where can i find this setting? |
| 21:34:12 | yeahx | in itunes ipod settings |
| 21:34:35 | ghode|afk | "manually manage songs and playlists"? |
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| 21:34:48 | yeahx | yes |
| 21:35:04 | ghode|afk | ok thanks |
| 21:35:35 | ghode|afk | btw from my tests so far with some ex71s the ipod sounds much clearer then the h140 |
| 21:40:00 | muesli__ | which gen? |
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| 21:40:15 | ghode|afk | 5g |
| 21:40:33 | muesli__ | is that the one including video? |
| 21:41:11 | ghode|afk | yeah |
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| 21:42:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | yeahx: Okay, the problem seems to be that "Backlight: Off" doesn't work (it's the same as backlight: On) but do you have any problems with actual times? |
| 21:42:48 | yeahx | I guess if I set backlight to 1 second I'll be ok |
| 21:42:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it is a bug that needs fixing |
| 21:43:04 | yeahx | no problems with the times |
| 21:43:12 | yeahx | wow Im glad I could help |
| 21:43:26 | yeahx | if anyone even noticed, Im sorry I was a smart ass recently :) |
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| 21:44:06 | yeahx | I was asking for help installing and being ignored ofcourse, thats just how things are and I expected it but I got rockbox installed |
| 21:44:26 | yeahx | I should meantion that on the forum or submit a bug report? |
| 21:44:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bug reports shouldn't be submitted for iPods yet, I believe. |
| 21:45:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | I imagine it's a small bug, so it's probably just a matter of getting the attention of someone who can commit a quick fix |
| 21:45:34 | yeahx | oh ok |
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| 21:46:45 | yeahx | sometimes pressing menu only goes back and forth between the directory and menu, shouldnt it get back to the now playing screen? |
| 21:47:03 | yeahx | but your version lets you turn off backlight? |
| 21:47:13 | yeahx | strange |
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| 21:49:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, mine doesn't |
| 21:49:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | I hadn't tried turning it off before. I thought you were saying it doesn't fade |
| 21:49:40 | yeahx | oh ok |
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| 21:51:00 | yeahx | how long have you used rockbox on your nano? |
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| 21:51:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Since before it had sound |
| 21:51:59 | yeahx | wow, what did you use it for? |
| 21:52:07 | yeahx | do you play ogg? |
| 21:52:37 | yeahx | and do you use rockbox full time? |
| 21:52:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | At the time, I was just playing around with it. I'd boot into rockbox for games. |
| 21:52:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | And yeah, now I use rockbox full time |
| 21:53:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | I need to figure out the backlight logic. It doesn't mate sense. I can, with a very small tweak, change it so that "Off" means permanently on, and "On" means permanently off, but I need to figure out *why* this change does that |
| 21:56:42 | mymomthelush | later bro im out |
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| 21:57:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I have things to do. I'll look at how the setting's handled later, and put up a patch if it's not fixed by the time I get back. |
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| 21:58:25 | yeahx | cool |
| 21:59:35 | * | safetydan looks a bubble sort routine in a patch |
| 21:59:42 | safetydan | now I haven't seen one of those for a while |
| 21:59:46 | safetydan | looks at even |
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| 22:02:00 | yeahx | hope my battery doesnt die on me today |
| 22:02:39 | yeahx | I think it wasnt fully charged yesterday, it sucks not knowing how much battery is left |
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| 22:23:33 | Febs | Is there a list of iPod keymappings anywhere? |
| 22:24:06 | Mikachu | only in the source i think |
| 22:25:35 | Febs | What is the button to return to file browser from WPS? Preglow? Linuxstb? |
| 22:26:49 | vca | it's the center button on my nano |
| 22:27:58 | Febs | Thanks, vca. What about the Quick Menu? |
| 22:28:03 | yeahx | does listening to ogg files eat more battery than mp3? |
| 22:28:28 | Bagder | yeahx: most likely, yes |
| 22:29:08 | vca | Febs: MENU, i _think_ −− lemme detach the nano from usb to check |
| 22:29:11 | yeahx | damn |
| 22:29:30 | yeahx | I guess I wont be using ogg as much as I wanted |
| 22:30:10 | yeahx | so the only rockbox benifit for me is gapless mp3s I guess |
| 22:30:32 | vca | Febs: center button is filebrowser, MENU is quickmenu |
| 22:31:20 | Bagder | yeahx: it still does many things better, like booting blazingly fast (compared to OF) |
| 22:31:25 | vca | Febs: ver 060209-0302 |
| 22:32:03 | yeahx | alrighty |
| 22:32:47 | Febs | Thanks. I'm helping someone on the head-fi forum, and since I haven't yet compiled the sim for the iPod, I don't know the keymappings. |
| 22:33:15 | Mikachu | Febs: hold down select |
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| 22:33:21 | vca | yeahx: you a nano user? the largest benefit for me is the absence of iTunes DB |
| 22:33:54 | Mikachu | menu is just the normal menu |
| 22:34:58 | vca | Mikachu: aah i see. wasn't clear on the terminology. apologies, Febs |
| 22:35:31 | yeahx | oh ok, I dont really mind itunes so much |
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| 22:38:39 | Febs | No problem. Thanks to both of you for the help. |
| 22:38:52 | * | Febs goes off to compile an iPod sim ... |
| 22:42:18 | Mikachu | there's a menu somewhere that gets stuck so you have to restart |
| 22:44:12 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-incomplete-playlist-menu-fix.patch fixes it |
| 22:44:19 | Mikachu | it seems i didn't add it to the patch tracker yet |
| 22:44:56 | Mikachu | oh yeah, i put it in bugs, not patches |
| 22:45:05 | Mikachu | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1430212&group_id=44306&atid=439118 |
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| 22:53:44 | muesli__ | ghode|afk there? |
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| 22:59:49 | muesli__ | is the ipod video supported so far? |
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| 23:00:05 | Mikachu | i think i heard it plays audio |
| 23:00:17 | Shadowarrior13 | Not that I know of. |
| 23:00:32 | Shadowarrior13 | If it played audio, you'd think there was a daily build. |
| 23:00:35 | Kensir | it plays audio...supposedly very chopily |
| 23:00:37 | Shadowarrior13 | >.< |
| 23:00:38 | muesli__ | mk |
| 23:00:41 | Kensir | ther is a daily build |
| 23:00:45 | Shadowarrior13 | wtf? |
| 23:00:51 | Kensir | for rockbox... |
| 23:00:56 | Shadowarrior13 | I've been gone ONE DAY, and it's supported. |
| 23:01:05 | Shadowarrior13 | Swear to god... |
| 23:01:22 | Shadowarrior13 | I'm going to slap someone -_- |
| 23:01:30 | Kensir | yea |
| 23:01:30 | Kensir | this happened last night |
| 23:01:30 | Kensir | haha |
| 23:01:30 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Kensir |
| 23:01:30 | Kensir | life moves fast |
| 23:02:53 | Kensir | ok |
| 23:02:59 | Kensir | lets give this 5g install a go... |
| 23:03:11 | Shadowarrior13 | I'm already on it :P |
| 23:03:27 | Shadowarrior13 | I've already got it ready. |
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| 23:03:33 | * | Cassandra has her 5G on order. ;) |
| 23:04:08 | Cassandra | (Since I also found out yesterday that I can get a cable that allows me to control the iPod using my stereo remote.) |
| 23:04:14 | * | Cassandra poings. |
| 23:04:23 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 23:05:28 | muesli__ | Cassandra 5gen = ipod video? |
| 23:05:42 | * | Cassandra nods. Yup. |
| 23:06:09 | Shadowarrior13 | Extracting... |
| 23:06:09 | muesli__ | do you own an iriver as well? |
| 23:06:16 | Cassandra | Yes. |
| 23:06:26 | ghode|afk | muesli__: 5g playback is very choppy for me |
| 23:07:00 | muesli__ | ok..i am just curious about its sound quality compared to an iriver at all |
| 23:07:16 | muesli__ | earlier or l8er my h330 will die |
| 23:07:17 | Shadowarrior13 | Testing... |
| 23:07:24 | Shadowarrior13 | GOD FU**ING DAMNIT |
| 23:07:38 | Shadowarrior13 | I've been doing something wrong with my bootloader or something. |
| 23:07:49 | ghode|afk | well i dont have a h300 only h140, SQ ia hard to tell since it cuts out every 2 secs |
| 23:08:27 | ghode|afk | i followed the steps on the wiki and it worked fine, did you make sure you used the 5g specific instructions? |
| 23:08:35 | Shadowarrior13 | Kind of :P |
| 23:08:42 | muesli__ | h140 and h3xx are identical in terms of soundquality |
| 23:09:22 | ghode|afk | i'll take your word for that |
| 23:09:32 | muesli__ | i had both ;) |
| 23:10:24 | muesli__ | respectively i still own an h330 |
| 23:10:43 | Shadowarrior13 | ghode, where's the 5G specific instructions? I've been half using ipodboot. |
| 23:11:24 | ghode|afk | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation - i used this |
| 23:11:33 | ghode|afk | and made sure i used the 5g command lines |
| 23:11:44 | Shadowarrior13 | I did that too... |
| 23:11:48 | Shadowarrior13 | -_- |
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| 23:12:24 | ghode|afk | btw how do your stop or turn off a 5g? >< |
| 23:12:49 | Mikachu | hold down play in rockbox maybe? at least works on nano |
| 23:13:02 | ghode|afk | in the retailos i meant sorry |
| 23:13:15 | Mikachu | leave it on for 36 hours i think |
| 23:13:23 | ghode|afk | .... |
| 23:13:34 | Mikachu | not my fault |
| 23:13:37 | Shadowarrior13 | To get to the apple os? |
| 23:13:39 | ghode|afk | hmmm so pause is the only way to stop? |
| 23:14:05 | Mikachu | if you're in the apple os, and want to enter deep sleep either wait for many hours or boot rockbox and turn it off from there |
| 23:14:07 | ghode|afk | no wonder ipod bat life sucks :/ |
| 23:14:30 | Mikachu | apple os enter what i think they call soft sleep after a few minutes |
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| 23:19:05 | Kensir | hey i didnt know rockbox would show me my ipod pictures |
| 23:19:09 | Kensir | holy hell this is nice |
| 23:19:23 | Mikachu | don't miss the backdrop feature |
| 23:19:31 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 23:19:40 | Shadowarrior13 | Stop making me want it more, since it doesn't fucking work |
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| 23:20:08 | ghode|afk | which bit doesnt work? |
| 23:20:14 | Kensir | haha |
| 23:20:17 | Kensir | what doesnt work for you? |
| 23:20:35 | Shadowarrior13 | The RUNNING PART |
| 23:20:38 | Shadowarrior13 | -_- |
| 23:21:04 | Kensir | o |
| 23:21:07 | Kensir | anyone have it working on a 5g yet? |
| 23:21:15 | Kensir | or specifically |
| 23:21:16 | Shadowarrior13 | I'm trying |
| 23:21:20 | Kensir | who can access their music |
| 23:21:27 | Kensir | im in but not sure how to get to the music part... |
| 23:21:35 | Shadowarrior13 | It's in ipod_control |
| 23:22:20 | Shadowarrior13 | AND THE FUCKER STILL DOESN'T WORK |
| 23:22:27 | Mikachu | hold down select on the music dir and select playlist->insert or something like that |
| 23:22:48 | markun | can't you just click on a song? |
| 23:22:49 | Kensir | my ipod_control folder isnt showing on the ipod |
| 23:22:49 | Kensir | wtf |
| 23:23:08 | Shadowarrior13 | Probably because it's a hidden folder. |
| 23:23:08 | Mikachu | you may need to enable the Show All Files option |
| 23:23:55 | Kensir | where at... |
| 23:23:59 | Kensir | in windows? |
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| 23:24:08 | Mikachu | somewhere in the jungle that is known as the rockbox settings menu |
| 23:24:20 | Shadowarrior13 | Get your machete. |
| 23:24:27 | Kensir | yea |
| 23:24:30 | Kensir | fuck that...i cant find it |
| 23:24:44 | Mikachu | you can probably remove the hidden attribute in windows too |
| 23:25:25 | Kensir | we'll ill give it a shot... |
| 23:26:37 | Shadowarrior13 | Seriously, I have no idea why this isn't working. |
| 23:26:47 | Shadowarrior13 | It's pissing me off so much. |
| 23:28:09 | Shadowarrior13 | AAAAAAAGH |
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| 23:28:39 | ghode|afk | Kensir i have a look in gneral settings - display settings - fileview |
| 23:29:10 | Kensir | i checked |
| 23:29:11 | Kensir | nothing |
| 23:29:26 | Shadowarrior13 | Kensir, you're on a 5G, right? |
| 23:29:31 | Kensir | and i dont feel comfortable doing the unhidden thing in windows |
| 23:29:33 | ghode|afk | am transfering between my DAPS atm so cant load rbx :/ |
| 23:29:36 | Kensir | yes...im on a 5g |
| 23:29:48 | ghode|afk | you dont need to do anything in windows |
| 23:29:52 | Kensir | k |
| 23:29:55 | Kensir | ill check again... |
| 23:30:09 | ghode|afk | if you want to test a track just drag a song into the root dir, rbx should pick it up |
| 23:30:10 | Shadowarrior13 | Wait... |
| 23:30:14 | Shadowarrior13 | Strike that remark XD |
| 23:30:20 | Shadowarrior13 | Fuck, wrong window |
| 23:30:26 | Shadowarrior13 | Kensir, how the FUCK did you get it working? |
| 23:30:30 | Kensir | k |
| 23:30:42 | Kensir | followed the instructions on the site |
| 23:30:45 | ghode|afk | Shadowarrior13: at what point is it screwing up for you? |
| 23:30:50 | Kensir | yea? |
| 23:31:08 | Shadowarrior13 | Rockbox loads, I get a yellow sign, then a screen with a little USB picture and the time. |
| 23:31:38 | Mikachu | do you have the usb plugged in when you boot? |
| 23:31:38 | Shadowarrior13 | So I think something needs to be smashed |
| 23:31:43 | Shadowarrior13 | No -_- |
| 23:32:01 | ghode|afk | did you copy over the rbx zip? |
| 23:32:18 | Shadowarrior13 | I extracted it straight to the root. |
| 23:32:33 | Shadowarrior13 | I don't get why it isn't working. |
| 23:32:50 | Kensir | makesure both the .rockbox folder and the rockbox file are in the root |
| 23:32:51 | Kensir | make sure you have the latest everything too |
| 23:32:57 | ghode|afk | yellow sign = rbx logo? |
| 23:32:58 | Kensir | other wise...you're pretty close |
| 23:33:06 | Shadowarrior13 | I DO have everything latest, and everything in root :P |
| 23:33:09 | Shadowarrior13 | And yes, the rbx logo. |
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| 23:34:05 | Shadowarrior13 | It's f ucking satanic. |
| 23:34:13 | ghode|afk | Kensir: its menu > generall settings > file view > shall all files |
| 23:34:18 | Kensir | hm |
| 23:34:19 | Kensir | strange |
| 23:34:20 | Shadowarrior13 | Yeah, ignore my problem |
| 23:34:22 | Kensir | k |
| 23:34:22 | Shadowarrior13 | XD |
| 23:34:30 | ghode|afk | shaw |
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| 23:34:54 | ghode|afk | only thing i can think of is uninstall the rbx bootloader and start it from scratch :/ |
| 23:34:57 | Kensir | got it |
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| 23:35:27 | Shadowarrior13 | I JUST did it from scratch |
| 23:35:29 | Shadowarrior13 | AGAIN |
| 23:35:39 | Mikachu | maybe you suck? |
| 23:35:46 | Shadowarrior13 | >.< |
| 23:36:02 | Kensir | easy |
| 23:36:09 | Kensir | audio plays just dandy |
| 23:36:10 | Kensir | no slug for me |
| 23:36:31 | Kensir | just dont touch the ipod scroll wheel and its great |
| 23:36:38 | Shadowarrior13 | I'm seriously pissed |
| 23:36:49 | Shadowarrior13 | Kensir, send me your rockboot.bin |
| 23:37:02 | Shadowarrior13 | I wanna see if it's just me :P |
| 23:38:08 | Kensir | k |
| 23:38:40 | Kensir | away it goes~ |
| 23:39:18 | BHSPitLappy | Kensir: what model? |
| 23:39:23 | Kensir | 5g |
| 23:39:26 | BHSPitLappy | cool |
| 23:39:54 | Kensir | eh |
| 23:40:01 | Shadowarrior13 | ...I see no awaying. |
| 23:40:04 | Kensir | rbx is a little buggy |
| 23:40:05 | Kensir | hmmm |
| 23:40:31 | Kensir | it says its waiting for you to accept |
| 23:40:40 | Kensir | is your IRC configured to accept? |
| 23:40:43 | Shadowarrior13 | I go no prompt :P |
| 23:40:45 | Shadowarrior13 | Yes, yes it is. |
| 23:40:50 | Kensir | damng |
| 23:40:51 | Kensir | t* |
| 23:40:56 | Shadowarrior13 | Just email it: shadowwarrior13@gmail.com |
| 23:41:00 | Kensir | k |
| 23:41:12 | Kensir | pandafusion is my name |
| 23:41:16 | Kensir | it'll be there shortly |
| 23:41:18 | Shadowarrior13 | omgz teh panda |
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| 23:44:22 | Kensir | k...ive got music files |
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| 23:44:34 | Kensir | but their sorted under these F00, F01, F02, F03 files |
| 23:44:36 | Kensir | folders* |
| 23:44:48 | Kensir | with names like WJQX.mp3 |
| 23:44:49 | Kensir | all 4 letters and caps |
| 23:44:55 | Kensir | anyone else got this problem? |
| 23:45:04 | Shadowarrior13 | lol, that's how itunes sorts the files. |
| 23:45:16 | Kensir | damn iTunes |
| 23:45:23 | Kensir | anyway to get Rockbox to just show the ID3 info? |
| 23:45:50 | Mikachu | if there is id3 info, it will show it |
| 23:46:05 | Kensir | it does |
| 23:46:16 | Kensir | but anyway to access it like a database |
| 23:46:18 | ghode|afk | you'll need to reate a tag database |
| 23:46:28 | Kensir | hmm....how do i go about doing this? |
| 23:47:08 | ghode|afk | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagDatabase |
| 23:47:10 | Shadowarrior13 | Goddamn, this thing needs to hurry up. |
| 23:47:21 | Kensir | has |
| 23:47:22 | Kensir | ha* |
| 23:47:29 | Kensir | sorry |
| 23:47:33 | Shadowarrior13 | >.< |
| 23:47:37 | Kensir | my internet is being ... well slow |
| 23:48:00 | ghode|afk | my rockboot.bin is 10mb |
| 23:48:08 | Shadowarrior13 | Ohnoes |
| 23:48:42 | ghode|afk | hehe anyway i'm off, gl with the 5g Shadowarrior13, hope you get it working :P |
| 23:48:47 | Shadowarrior13 | lol, thanks |
| 23:50:43 | * | Shadowarrior13 rides Kensir like a pony |
| 23:51:09 | Kensir | .... |
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| 23:52:02 | Kensir | stupid outlook express |
| 23:52:07 | Kensir | come on.... |
| 23:52:12 | Shadowarrior13 | Not very EX{RESSY |
| 23:52:15 | Shadowarrior13 | EXPRESSY* |
| 23:52:43 | Kensir | i noticed... |
| 23:52:49 | Kensir | its getting there though |
| 23:56:18 | Kensir | half way |
| 23:56:34 | Shadowarrior13 | .... |
| 23:56:44 | Shadowarrior13 | Fucking seriously? |
| 23:56:51 | BHSPitLappy | hey, do wifi apps work on 1.50? |
| 23:56:52 | Kensir | yea |
| 23:57:03 | Kensir | wifi apps...for what... |
| 23:57:16 | BHSPitLappy | just wondering |
| 23:57:23 | mar_k | what wifi apps? |
| 23:57:36 | Kensir | that sounds like PSP speak |
| 23:57:42 | BHSPitLappy | I haven't been messing with PSP in a long time, and when I was last involved, there was only like some concept apps, that required static IP and crap |
| 23:57:56 | mar_k | psp rockbox! |
| 23:57:57 | Kensir | hell if I know...or anyone in here knows |
| 23:57:59 | BHSPitLappy | basic telnet and junk |
| 23:58:02 | mar_k | that'd be so freakin awesome |
| 23:58:03 | BHSPitLappy | true |
| 23:58:10 | Kensir | psp rockbox |
| 23:58:10 | Kensir | that'd be amazing! |
| 23:58:10 | BHSPitLappy | mar_k: haha |
| 23:58:16 | BHSPitLappy | omg |
| 23:58:16 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 23:58:26 | BHSPitLappy | sorry you guys, I -just- realized I was in the wrong channel |
| 23:58:27 | BHSPitLappy | hahahahahahaha |
| 23:58:32 | mar_k | lol |
| 23:58:33 | * | BHSPitLappy airhead. |
| 23:58:34 | Shadowarrior13 | That would be the hardest thing ever, the flash0 is only accessible THROUGH the firmware. |
| 23:58:36 | Kensir | yup |
| 23:58:44 | * | BHSPitLappy embarassing moment of the day |
| 23:58:46 | Shadowarrior13 | Wait, there's a psp channel on freenode? |
| 23:58:48 | Kensir | o well |
| 23:58:50 | mar_k | DS rockbox'd be better still |
| 23:58:50 | BHSPitLappy | nope |
| 23:58:50 | Kensir | i dont know... |
| 23:58:52 | Kensir | yea |
| 23:58:58 | Shadowarrior13 | Then where's the chat? :P |
| 23:58:59 | Kensir | touch screen...im drooling |
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| 23:59:00 | mar_k | touchscreen rockbox would be soooooo good |
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