| 00:00:10 | BHSPitLappy | nah |
| 00:00:23 | BHSPitLappy | and it would be advanced, with wifi! |
| 00:00:34 | Kensir | hey wait...Shadowwarrior...were you extracting the other firmware thing in the instructions |
| 00:00:48 | Kensir | the apple_sw_something_rcsc |
| 00:00:49 | Shadowarrior13 | Yes. |
| 00:00:50 | Kensir | k |
| 00:00:58 | Kensir | just checkin ;) |
| 00:01:01 | Shadowarrior13 | Was I supposed to do anything else with it? |
| 00:01:31 | Rob2222 | LinusN: After 9h benchmark, no changes in power with new USB patch. |
| 00:02:00 | Kensir | no |
| 00:02:03 | Kensir | just that one step |
| 00:02:07 | Shadowarrior13 | Didn't think so. |
| 00:02:21 | Kensir | everything else should be alright |
| 00:02:28 | Kensir | anyone here in or around chicago |
| 00:02:33 | Kensir | its like 60 outside right now |
| 00:02:48 | Kensir | compared to 2 years ago's negative something... |
| 00:03:01 | Kensir | 75%... |
| 00:07:56 | Kensir | 90ish%... |
| 00:08:01 | Shadowarrior13 | >.< |
| 00:13:19 | Shadowarrior13 | DUDE |
| 00:13:22 | Shadowarrior13 | IS IT DONE?!? |
| 00:13:33 | Shadowarrior13 | Holy hell in a handbasket. |
| 00:13:38 | Mikachu | wow, the excitement and builtup anticipation |
| 00:15:08 | Kensir | um |
| 00:15:08 | Kensir | no |
| 00:15:18 | Kensir | is there any site i can just upload it to? |
| 00:15:28 | Shadowarrior13 | Jesus |
| 00:15:33 | Mikachu | yes? |
| 00:15:36 | Shadowarrior13 | wtf is wrong with your internet |
| 00:15:38 | dpassen1 | make a YSI |
| 00:16:07 | Kensir | not a damn clue |
| 00:16:11 | Kensir | just a sec |
| 00:16:44 | Kensir | k |
| 00:16:49 | Kensir | what's a YSI |
| 00:17:07 | Mikachu | yousendit |
| 00:17:56 | Kensir | got it |
| 00:18:43 | Kensir | im uploading to a YSi |
| 00:19:23 | Shadowarrior13 | And it'll take another hour. |
| 00:19:24 | Shadowarrior13 | :P |
| 00:19:48 | Kensir | eh |
| 00:19:50 | Kensir | perhaps... |
| 00:19:52 | Kensir | we'll see |
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| 00:21:11 | Kensir | hld on |
| 00:21:14 | Kensir | ill be right back |
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| 00:25:08 | Shadowarrior13 | .... |
| 00:25:10 | Shadowarrior13 | Goddamnit. |
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| 00:27:56 | Kensir | hey |
| 00:28:08 | Kensir | just logged off for a while to speed up the process |
| 00:28:09 | Kensir | it didnt |
| 00:28:17 | Kensir | apparently i just have really shitty upload rates |
| 00:28:20 | Kensir | go figure |
| 00:28:26 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
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| 00:28:29 | Shadowarrior13 | Still not done? |
| 00:29:01 | Kensir | no |
| 00:29:08 | Kensir | this is kind of frustrating |
| 00:29:11 | Shadowarrior13 | >.< |
| 00:38:01 | Shadowarrior13 | Dude, your internet sucks. |
| 00:38:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's the problem? |
| 00:38:25 | Shadowarrior13 | rockbox doesn't work for my 5G, so he's sending me his rockboot.bin and seeing if I just suck. |
| 00:38:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | What problem do you encounter? |
| 00:38:25 | Shadowarrior13 | Bootloader loads, I get a yellow rbx logo, then it goes straight to a frozen screen of a USB symbol. |
| 00:38:25 | Shadowarrior13 | And no, it's not plugged in. |
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| 00:38:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | And by "not plugged in" you mean not to a computer, or to a wall power supply? |
| 00:38:28 | Shadowarrior13 | The dock connector is completely empty. |
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| 00:39:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Odd. It doesn't *sound* like it'd be a bootloader problem, since at that point you're past the bootloader and into rockbox proper, but there's all kinds of ways I could be wrong about that. |
| 00:39:25 | Shadowarrior13 | I know. |
| 00:39:55 | Shadowarrior13 | I don't get it either. |
| 00:40:51 | Kensir | you should get an email now |
| 00:40:59 | Shadowarrior13 | Finally :P |
| 00:41:03 | Kensir | http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=101UTS6LS0N7D0JHPCKNL7R195 |
| 00:41:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | And the "freezing with the USB logo" is a known bug that occurs when you try to boot it with USB plugged in, so that's really odd |
| 00:41:27 | Kensir | good luck |
| 00:41:29 | Kensir | i g2g |
| 00:41:31 | Kensir | food |
| 00:41:32 | Shadowarrior13 | K,. cya |
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| 00:42:15 | Shadowarrior13 | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 00:42:24 | Shadowarrior13 | I seriously don't get this. |
| 00:42:40 | Shadowarrior13 | .rockbox and rockbox.ipod are both in root, right? |
| 00:42:50 | Mikachu | yes |
| 00:43:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it gets to showing the big USB logo, it's found the rockbox.ipod, loaded it, and attempted to enter USB mode. |
| 00:43:35 | Shadowarrior13 | Now, why the hell is it doing that? |
| 00:43:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's it doing now? |
| 00:44:01 | Shadowarrior13 | It's sitting. |
| 00:44:04 | Shadowarrior13 | USB-y. |
| 00:44:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, it's still doing the same thing? |
| 00:44:40 | Shadowarrior13 | Yup. |
| 00:45:33 | Shadowarrior13 | And NOW I have Kensir's ipod theme. |
| 00:46:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, you could always comment out the relevant code so it never attempts to go into USB mode, for the time being |
| 00:46:14 | Shadowarrior13 | How would I do that? |
| 00:47:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not entirely sure where to look. I'd go and find the code that sets it to charge from USB when you hold menu, and make the condition always true instead. That'd be a very small change, and it'd probably bypass this problem. |
| 00:47:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though I'm curious what causes it. |
| 00:48:36 | Shadowarrior13 | I have no clue what you just said, but damn I like your gusto. |
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| 00:50:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though if you're using a bootloader that worked on someone else's 5g, and a clean CVS build and this is happening, that it seems like it's a hardware thing |
| 00:50:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not sure entirely how USB is detected. |
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| 02:00:41 | midkay | LinusN? |
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| 02:27:45 | midkay | cute |
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| 03:35:12 | midkay | i'm going to go nuts if there isn't a dev around familiar with the lcd_mono_bitmap function. |
| 03:37:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why go nuts? |
| 03:37:53 | midkay | because something's not working right and it makes no sense. |
| 03:39:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Out of curiosity (since I'm not familiar with it) how's it not making sense? |
| 03:40:34 | midkay | well, i actually can't really explain. i'm using the same syntax as EVERYWHERE ELSE in my code... bitmaps were converted correctly, as far as i know.. quadruple-plus checked the width/height values.. and yet they display corrupted. |
| 03:42:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Odd |
| 03:44:36 | midkay | oh. |
| 03:44:45 | midkay | bmp2rb seems to be _reading_ them wrong or something. |
| 03:45:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hmmm. |
| 03:45:55 | midkay | weird. saving them as 8 bit works. 4 bit doesn't. |
| 03:45:58 | midkay | and yet that's what i did last time, iirc. |
| 03:46:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | bmp2rb only takes mono, 8 and 24 I thought |
| 03:47:00 | midkay | not sure.. 4 worked for another bitmap though, i was sure of it. well.. never mind. :) thx anyways. |
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| 03:57:46 | midkay | yay! it works. |
| 03:57:49 | midkay | *rejoices* |
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| 04:00:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 04:00:18 | * | Paul_The_Nerd cheers |
| 04:01:42 | midkay | i guess it was worth the hour's worth of work! :) now.. hmm.. i think i'll completely redo the settings functions (working on my clock plugin) to be more dynamic and easier to change.. |
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| 04:12:08 | drumrboy | http://www.piettes.com/fallingsandgame/index.html |
| 04:12:18 | drumrboy | is it possible for that to be ported? |
| 04:13:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Arguably anything's "possible." It's more a matter of how well it'd run, and so forth |
| 04:14:33 | midkay | drumrboy, wow, that looks really cool. |
| 04:16:38 | drumrboy | its petty processor intensive |
| 04:16:47 | drumrboy | www.fallingsandgame.com |
| 04:16:49 | midkay | yeah, i don't think it'd run at all well |
| 04:16:52 | drumrboy | prettyu* |
| 04:16:55 | drumrboy | :/ |
| 04:17:05 | drumrboy | at least a proof of concept would be cool :P |
| 04:19:02 | midkay | it'd be a lot of work for sure :) |
| 04:19:14 | drumrboy | i would do it... if i knew C |
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| 06:20:52 | Zoide777 | does anyone know what the 4g ipod's dpi is? would it be better to use 75 dpi or 100 dpi fonts for converting them to rockbox? |
| 06:23:13 | * | ashridah hands Zoide777 a ruler :) |
| 06:23:34 | linuxstb | I don't know, but you can easily calculate the dpi - the colour LCD is 220x176, and the mono LCD is 160x128. Just measure the size of the LCD. |
| 06:23:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Honestly, since the pixels are fairly visible, why don't you just look at the height of the characters? |
| 06:24:25 | ashridah | wouldn't the datasheet list the dpi? |
| 06:24:35 | ashridah | ipodlinux or rockbox's wiki is likely to have it... |
| 06:25:10 | Zoide777 | k, let me check |
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| 06:35:58 | Zoide777 | arrrgg can't find the dimensions online, and i don't have a ruler |
| 06:36:11 | Zoide777 | doesn't matter, i'll just see which font dpi looks better |
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| 06:45:33 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Which iPod do you have? The 4g grayscale? |
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| 06:55:35 | kenrose | hey all |
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| 06:56:52 | Zoide777 | yeah, in any case it seems like 75 dpi is the right font setting |
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| 07:35:47 | Bg3r | morning |
| 07:35:55 | XavierGr | morning! |
| 07:36:19 | Bg3r | ) |
| 07:36:22 | Bg3r | ;) |
| 07:36:32 | Bg3r | maybe it's more like evening for you ;) |
| 07:36:37 | XavierGr | haha |
| 07:36:55 | XavierGr | no I am an all-nighter. I have some jobs to do this morning. |
| 07:38:30 | XavierGr | Bger: Did you called me the other day? |
| 07:40:32 | Bg3r | no, i didn't |
| 07:40:52 | XavierGr | I though you wanted to say something to me, but oh well... |
| 07:40:54 | XavierGr | any news? |
| 07:41:14 | Bg3r | ah, no, didn't have time yesterday |
| 07:41:18 | XavierGr | okay |
| 07:41:34 | Bg3r | i'll look at it today |
| 07:41:57 | XavierGr | nice (if you have the time though, I don't want to press on you) |
| 07:42:05 | Bg3r | np ;) |
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| 08:57:13 | Rob2222_ | XavierGr: No changes in power with USB patch. |
| 08:57:35 | Bg3r | in battery life ? |
| 08:58:15 | XavierGr | :( |
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| 08:58:31 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:58:35 | XavierGr | oh! |
| 08:58:39 | XavierGr | good morning amiconn. |
| 08:58:49 | XavierGr | where have you been? |
| 08:58:53 | Bg3r | morning;) |
| 08:59:12 | Rob2222_ | yes |
| 08:59:45 | XavierGr | Rob: I am really curious to learn what is the difference.... |
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| 09:01:51 | Rob2222_ | between iriver and RB in power consumption you mean? |
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| 09:02:36 | XavierGr | yes |
| 09:02:52 | XavierGr | difference in software handling I mean |
| 09:04:08 | amiconn | Who broke the win32 sim? :( |
| 09:04:24 | amiconn | (swcodec) |
| 09:05:00 | XavierGr | Dan |
| 09:06:22 | Bg3r | i think so too |
| 09:08:18 | Bg3r | but aren't X11 and w32 simulators considered as obsolete ? |
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| 09:09:34 | XavierGr | yes I agree with Bg3r, let's get rid of them! |
| 09:10:33 | amiconn | Does the SDL Player sim now work correctly? |
| 09:10:41 | XavierGr | yes |
| 09:10:47 | XavierGr | though audio is choppy |
| 09:10:52 | amiconn | ?? |
| 09:10:56 | XavierGr | sorry |
| 09:10:58 | amiconn | I mean archos player |
| 09:11:07 | XavierGr | yes I misunderstood |
| 09:11:19 | amiconn | Last week the lcd was scaled incorrectly |
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| 09:17:49 | linuxstb | Are you talking about the charset lcd, or the aspect ratio for the bitmap lcd? |
| 09:18:24 | linuxstb | (I assume you mean the charset, but is the bitmap OK?) |
| 09:22:16 | amiconn | charset lcd |
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| 09:23:28 | amiconn | The bitmap aspect ratio isn't a big problem, although the win32 sim had the advantage that you could select either the correct aspect ratio or square pixels |
| 09:23:40 | amiconn | (by changing #defines) |
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| 09:25:56 | amiconn | linuxstb: The iPod can be clocked down to 32 kHz ?? |
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| 09:27:57 | linuxstb | That's what the PortalPlayer "product brief" says. |
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| 10:11:38 | ddoddaa | fuckyou |
| 10:11:53 | ddoddaa | come on yo |
| 10:12:00 | ddoddaa | mother fucker |
| 10:12:10 | ddoddaa | anyone? hahahahaha |
| 10:12:19 | Mode | "#rockbox +o B4gder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 10:12:22 | Kick | (#Rockbox ddoddaa :B4gder) by B4gder!n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se |
| 10:13:00 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 10:13:03 | t0mas | 3 seconds faster |
| 10:13:12 | * | t0mas was just typing /chanserv op #rockbox |
| 10:13:15 | B4gder | :-) |
| 10:13:41 | * | t0mas spots DJ_Dooms_Day |
| 10:13:49 | t0mas | hi! Long time not seen? |
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| 10:14:12 | * | Zagor looks at converting the SF XML to another tracker |
| 10:14:37 | Zagor | the only question is what to do with all the users |
| 10:14:51 | Zagor | 1. create accounts |
| 10:14:56 | Zagor | 2. strip user information |
| 10:14:57 | B4gder | Zagor: probably convert them into something like "SF user [blabla]" |
| 10:15:03 | B4gder | in a comment |
| 10:15:16 | Zagor | good idea |
| 10:15:31 | petur | but then the original poster can't change anything anymore? |
| 10:15:58 | B4gder | well, it *will* be a transition phase that takes some attention |
| 10:16:09 | B4gder | otherwise we'd have to add hundreds of user accounts first |
| 10:16:27 | Zagor | administering passwords for all those will be a nightmare |
| 10:16:35 | petur | I didn't say there was a better/nicer way ;) |
| 10:16:39 | B4gder | hehe |
| 10:18:04 | linuxstb | Are you talking about another third-party tracker, or installing a tracker on rockbox.org? |
| 10:18:36 | LinusN | installing a tracker, i suppose |
| 10:18:47 | Zagor | yes |
| 10:20:08 | Zagor | hmm, i just realized that we have email for all users, in the form <user>@sourceforge.net. so if I create proper accounts for people, everyone can get their pwd in email. |
| 10:20:46 | B4gder | well, my experience tells me a larger amount of users don't have that alias functional |
| 10:21:30 | B4gder | I frequently get mailed by users @sourceforge.net to which I can't reply |
| 10:21:42 | B4gder | silly enough |
| 10:21:52 | petur | I imagine there's a whole bunch of zombie accounts as well... no need to create those |
| 10:22:15 | B4gder | true |
| 10:22:52 | t0mas | maybe it's sufficient to ask everybody on both mailinglists to reregister wit h the new tracker? |
| 10:23:28 | t0mas | and try to e-mail everybody who has a working @sf.net e-mail address... If they don't have one... it's their fault that we can't contact them |
| 10:23:59 | B4gder | and we'd only need to mail those who have open tracker entries |
| 10:24:53 | petur | only? :D |
| 10:24:59 | B4gder | "only" yes |
| 10:25:03 | B4gder | spam spam spam |
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| 10:47:01 | * | amiconn doesn't understand why many people deem the cygwin installer crap |
| 10:47:18 | B4gder | me neither |
| 10:47:38 | B4gder | and as usual with open source, they could proceed and help fixing it instead |
| 10:47:40 | amiconn | It was crappy back when the window didn't support resizing, |
| 10:47:59 | amiconn | but that was long ago |
| 10:48:15 | amiconn | Otherwise it's similar to linux package managers |
| 10:48:22 | petur | I just hate the fact that they store stuff in the registry |
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| 10:51:22 | g33 | hey guys |
| 10:51:33 | g33 | i ran into a somewhat severe bug methinks |
| 10:52:13 | petur | do continue... |
| 10:52:35 | g33 | im on a h140 btw |
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| 10:53:06 | g33 | yesteday i went into that menu where you selec shuffle mode and stuff, tghe menu with the arrows |
| 10:53:17 | g33 | then i hit the play button i think |
| 10:53:28 | g33 | and then the player said "loading..." |
| 10:53:33 | g33 | and just stayed like that forever |
| 10:53:44 | g33 | and it started to get pretty warm |
| 10:53:48 | g33 | so i reset it |
| 10:54:00 | g33 | then it would hang every time i try and boot rockbox |
| 10:54:31 | g33 | so i connected to usb, deleted the .rockbox dir and the iriver.rockbox and copied the latest versions onto the player |
| 10:55:00 | g33 | and now when i try and boot rockbox, the rockbox logo shows really quickly, then fades to white (blue) then i cant see ANYTHING on the screen |
| 10:55:14 | g33 | but the player seems to respond to the buttons somehow |
| 10:55:35 | g33 | because if i hold stop, then it says "shutting down" and turns itself off |
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| 10:56:13 | Bg3r | g33 |
| 10:56:26 | Bg3r | so the bootloader tryes to load rockbox.iriver, yep ? |
| 10:56:33 | safetydan | g33, try connecting it to your computer and run a scandisk |
| 10:56:34 | g33 | yeah |
| 10:56:55 | g33 | im at work, cant do that now |
| 10:56:58 | Bg3r | so, after starting loading ("model: ...") hold the rec |
| 10:57:03 | Bg3r | the rec button |
| 10:57:08 | Bg3r | this will reset the settings ... |
| 10:57:13 | Bg3r | and if this doesn't help |
| 10:57:27 | Bg3r | follow teh safetydan's advice |
| 10:59:59 | g33 | the rockbox logo pic flashes for a second before it goes blank |
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| 11:01:07 | Lynx_ | on the H340, if i press the down or up buttons long to scroll, the scrolling will continue for a while after releasing. can i change that behaviour? |
| 11:01:39 | g33 | ttrange, i used to use the ipod theme on it, and it still got the ipod theme, even though i deleted all the rockbox files and installed new ones |
| 11:02:13 | g33 | h sweet |
| 11:02:15 | g33 | the reset worked |
| 11:03:16 | Zagor | Lynx_: that's a bug |
| 11:03:16 | B4gder | the settings are stored in a sector outside of the fat fs |
| 11:03:34 | Lynx_ | Zagor: ok, i thought so |
| 11:03:35 | amiconn | LinusN: Do you know whether the old Samsung tuner (archos fmr) can handle the japanese fm range? |
| 11:04:12 | amiconn | Lynx_, Zagor: It's not really a bug, but caused by the still slow lcd driver |
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| 11:04:35 | B4gder | it is a unwanted feature :-) |
| 11:04:40 | amiconn | yep :/ |
| 11:04:41 | Lynx_ | hehe |
| 11:04:49 | petur | didn't this get worse when the backdrop was added? |
| 11:04:56 | amiconn | yes |
| 11:04:56 | B4gder | I bet |
| 11:04:57 | amiconn | a bit |
| 11:05:20 | Lynx_ | how do i scroll whole pages, like ON + down on achos? |
| 11:05:30 | amiconn | Play+Down |
| 11:05:39 | g33 | thanks guys, gotta go back to work |
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| 11:07:01 | Lynx_ | amiconn: hmm, thought i tried that, thx |
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| 11:14:31 | Lynx_ | i guess skipping sound while scrolling in the filebrowser is also a known bug? |
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| 11:36:23 | Zoide777 | any news on the 4g grayscale's display driver? i was wondering, does ipodlinux also have display problems on it? b/c if that were the case you could just borrow the code, right? |
| 11:39:36 | linuxstb | It's simply just a work-in-progress and isn't finished yet. |
| 11:40:24 | linuxstb | The problems are Rockbox-specific - it's the high-level framebuffer drawing code that's not finished. |
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| 11:48:43 | JdGordon | does any1 know a script to convert tabs to spaces in all files in a folder? |
| 11:50:43 | linuxstb | I'm sure there are better ways, but I would do: mkdir NEW ; for a in *.txt ; do awk '{gsub(/\t/," "} ; print}' $a > NEW/$a ; done ; mv NEW/$a . |
| 11:50:44 | vca | # perl -pi -e 's/\t/\ /g' * |
| 11:50:58 | linuxstb | There you go... Cryptic perl to the rescue. |
| 11:51:01 | ashridah | linuxstb: owned :) |
| 11:51:22 | JdGordon | thanx.. i dunno if i have perl installed.. but ill try it |
| 11:51:35 | vca | linuxstb's is cleaner ;) |
| 11:51:45 | JdGordon | yours is shorter :D |
| 11:51:58 | linuxstb | What do the -pi and -e options mean? |
| 11:52:18 | JdGordon | vca: does that change it to 1 space? or 4? |
| 11:52:28 | vca | oh, one |
| 11:52:46 | vca | replace "\ " with the # of spaces you want |
| 11:54:28 | vca | -e is 'expr argument as perl code', -pi is passthru and interactive .. passthru wraps -e in a while loop for each line read and -i applies it to $argv iirc |
| 11:55:06 | vca | though it is 5am and i was awakened for an on call mess so i could be recalling that wrong |
| 11:55:45 | JdGordon | can u get it to go into subfolders? |
| 11:56:29 | vca | maybe with some find hackery |
| 11:56:38 | linuxstb | You'll probably want to wrap it in a find - or use wildcards like "* */*" |
| 11:56:52 | JdGordon | works fine.. apart from not doing subdirs.. but thats ok |
| 11:56:55 | JdGordon | cheers dude |
| 11:57:53 | linuxstb | vca: How does perl know to modify the files? I'm assume it writes to a temporary file and then renames? |
| 11:59:07 | vca | internally? i'm not wholly sure how it plays the fds, but it is atomic, which is why i've always used it for sed-in-place |
| 11:59:35 | linuxstb | Checking "perl −−help" - it's the -i option that means in-place. |
| 11:59:58 | vca | aha, so i had recalled it wrong |
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| 12:00:07 | JdGordon | weee.. made it a script :D no more tabs in my patches... linusn will be happy :p |
| 12:00:46 | vca | wait a sec, i'm propping up spaces over tabs? *stab* (j/k) |
| 12:01:00 | linuxstb | Those are the rules.... :) |
| 12:02:53 | B4gder | JdGordon: your replacing a single tabl with a single space might get very funny results, indent wise |
| 12:03:16 | B4gder | tabs are not 1:1 whitespace |
| 12:03:32 | JdGordon | no, changed it to 4 |
| 12:03:49 | B4gder | still, it requires that you didn't also had spaces in there |
| 12:04:15 | vca | truth |
| 12:04:17 | B4gder | but I guess that'll soon show ;-) |
| 12:04:26 | JdGordon | well if my damn text editor would keep "use tabs" unchecked i wouldnt have the problem :p |
| 12:04:36 | B4gder | get a better editor |
| 12:04:51 | vca | something like ^\s+ would do one better |
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| 12:05:35 | vca | or even \s+ to catch multis |
| 12:05:37 | B4gder | it is actually not really doable in a simple regex |
| 12:05:52 | JdGordon | its good enough... |
| 12:06:02 | vca | yeah not cleanly.. it's dirty hackery no matter how sliced |
| 12:09:25 | JdGordon | uh oh.... |
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| 12:09:39 | JdGordon | or maybe not... |
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| 12:19:43 | vca | balls. i'm wide awake now.. guess i'm going into the office super early. how foreign. |
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| 12:43:30 | Mikachu | sed also has -i for inplace changing |
| 12:43:56 | Mikachu | if you have zsh you can do **/*.txt for all subdirs |
| 12:44:23 | B4gder | that's just GNU sed I'm pretty sure |
| 12:44:24 | vca | gnused? oh yeah? i had no idea. spending too much time on slowlaris |
| 12:44:29 | vca | thx for the tip |
| 12:45:28 | vca | lack of gnu sed was part of the reason i started using perl for regex work in many places |
| 12:48:16 | B4gder | solaris needs a massive amount of open source to become usable |
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| 12:50:31 | B4gder | but hey, they even ship curl on their "companion software CD" ;-) |
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| 12:50:47 | perpleXa | morning |
| 12:51:09 | vca | B4gder: that it does! we're telecom, so a lot of these machines have a list of sancto-sancto pkgs.. but perl is on em ;) |
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| 12:56:24 | markun | Shall I commit the gigabeat code after I've finished the simulator? http://130.89.160.166/Gigabeat/simulator.png |
| 12:56:39 | linuxstb | Are there any 5g users around willing to test the latest CVS? I've just committed a fix which should significantly help audio decoding speed. |
| 12:56:47 | B4gder | markun: wow, looks cool |
| 12:56:54 | B4gder | markun: sure, commit away I say |
| 12:57:13 | B4gder | bloody huge lcd that |
| 12:57:35 | linuxstb | Is that 240x320? |
| 12:57:39 | markun | yes |
| 12:57:57 | markun | we still have no bootloader for the gigabeat.. |
| 12:58:13 | linuxstb | But we have a sim :) |
| 12:58:35 | safetydan | Which for some reason reminds me that I need to make the text buffers longer in the eq_menu so translators don't have problems. |
| 12:58:37 | linuxstb | What buttons are there? |
| 12:59:07 | petur | hehe |
| 12:59:08 | markun | linuxstb: the cross + POWER, MENU, VOL+, VOL-, A |
| 12:59:17 | linuxstb | Is the cross just four normal button? |
| 12:59:31 | linuxstb | s/button/buttons/ |
| 12:59:46 | markun | no, there are 13 sensors in the cross |
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| 13:00:28 | linuxstb | Sounds a bigger nightmare than the ipod's clickswheel |
| 13:00:35 | B4gder | so how do you operate things with the cross? |
| 13:00:48 | B4gder | faster further out or something? |
| 13:00:50 | markun | you can press it, or slide |
| 13:01:12 | B4gder | ah, slide... |
| 13:01:29 | markun | The first button driver will not handle sliding I think |
| 13:01:32 | JdGordon | :'( whyt the hell am i getting undefined references to radio functions (in the radio.h file) when the functions are freeking there and i havnt touched the files with the problems??? :'( |
| 13:02:31 | Bg3r | JdGordon preprocessor problems ? |
| 13:03:03 | JdGordon | i dunno.. iv done make cleand and make twice and it didnt help..? |
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| 13:06:49 | Lynx_ | is there actually still someone working on xvid for iriver? |
| 13:07:31 | B4gder | don't think so |
| 13:08:02 | markun | Lynx_: mirak was |
| 13:08:33 | Lynx_ | ok |
| 13:09:01 | * | JdGordon is getting hugely pissed of with this code.. |
| 13:09:20 | mirak | it was last year |
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| 13:12:40 | linuxstb | I asked about ideas for video codecs that could work in Rockbox on the ffmpeg mailing list a few days ago - the suggestion was mpeg1, |
| 13:13:06 | mirak | uncompressed video is out of question |
| 13:13:17 | mirak | I just did some calculs |
| 13:13:27 | mirak | 13gigs for 2hours |
| 13:13:39 | linuxstb | Yep - that's what ipodlinux currently does. |
| 13:13:44 | mirak | the compression rate is somewhat incredible |
| 13:14:10 | mirak | I was wondering what mjpeg could do ? |
| 13:14:36 | linuxstb | I'm would expect mjpeg is a lot harder to decode than mpeg1 |
| 13:15:06 | mirak | mjpeg doesn't have interframe coding, right ? |
| 13:15:19 | linuxstb | I would guess not, but I don't know for sure. |
| 13:15:52 | mirak | linuxstb: but mpeg2 codec is able to decompress mpeg1 |
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| 13:16:04 | mirak | I haven't tried a mpeg1 stream though |
| 13:16:13 | linuxstb | Yes, but it's a waste of space to have it in the decoder. |
| 13:16:42 | mirak | the mpeg2 codec is not that big |
| 13:16:48 | linuxstb | But yes, we could start with an mpeg2 decoder, and then strip out everything not needed for mpeg1. |
| 13:16:51 | mirak | at least way smaller than what I did with xvid |
| 13:17:08 | Lynx_ | what decoder does the iriver firmware use? |
| 13:17:19 | mirak | problem with mpeg2 codec as it was was the buffer was not in iram |
| 13:17:30 | mirak | it was not that easy to use fast ram |
| 13:17:43 | linuxstb | Which mpeg2 decoder did you use? |
| 13:17:48 | mirak | xvid was really easier for that since it used some litle buffers |
| 13:17:56 | mirak | linuxstb: hem libmpeg2. |
| 13:18:24 | linuxstb | Can you test an mpeg1 file, and see if it's any faster than an mpeg2? |
| 13:18:38 | JdGordon | is there a preproccessor thingy like #error which doe the same but lets the vuild continue? |
| 13:18:44 | linuxstb | #warning |
| 13:18:48 | JdGordon | thanx |
| 13:18:59 | JdGordon | i was trying #warn :p |
| 13:20:03 | JdGordon | crap.. undefined reference means it cant find the function in the c files or the defenition in the h files? |
| 13:20:10 | ShyK | there's really very little difference between mpeg1 and mpeg2 |
| 13:20:26 | ShyK | as far as decoding complexity goes |
| 13:21:08 | linuxstb | Every little helps though. |
| 13:22:02 | linuxstb | Do you know if there are any other differences, such as required buffer sizes? |
| 13:23:36 | JdGordon | guys, im stuck.. can some1 please look here.. http://pastebin.com/555790 |
| 13:23:42 | ShyK | nope, don't really know the technical side. just from what i've seen and read by developers, mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 are often said to have pretty much no difference. and mpeg-4 decodes -much- better with various apps/libs. |
| 13:25:16 | ShyK | with libavcodec on my athlon, i can decode 60fps 640x480 advanced simple profile mpeg-4 video and the avarage cpu time it takes is ~17%, and peaks are around 30% |
| 13:25:50 | ShyK | no way in hell mpeg-2 would decode that well with any application i know |
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| 13:27:46 | safetydan | JdGordon, are any of those functions declared static? |
| 13:28:00 | JdGordon | no |
| 13:28:30 | LinusN | and are you sure they are compiled, and not excluded by some #ifdef? |
| 13:29:08 | JdGordon | yup, the #warning is the innermost #ifdef in the file, and its shown so the function headers are being read... |
| 13:30:39 | LinusN | JdGordon: that's the .h file, that doesn't tell you if the functions are compiled or not |
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| 13:31:15 | LinusN | that only tells you that the prototype is being included |
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| 13:31:58 | JdGordon | compiling again... moved the warning to the actual function |
| 13:32:11 | Bg3r | ShyK what are the bitrates of the mpeg-4 video and of the mpeg-2 stream ? |
| 13:32:45 | Bg3r | iirc, DVDs have up limit of 10 000 kbit/s |
| 13:32:47 | linuxstb | ShyK: I've been told by the ffmpeg developers that mpeg4 is harder to decoder than mpeg1 - so I'm sure that just means you've got a poorly optimised mpeg1/2 decoder, and a well optimised mpeg4 decoder. |
| 13:33:08 | Bg3r | linuxstb don't forget the bitrate too |
| 13:33:16 | linuxstb | Of course. |
| 13:34:39 | ShyK | Bg3r: the 60fps mpeg-4 videos i tested are around 3000 and 4500 kbps and have some extremely complex motion, that movies pretty much never have. mpeg-2 at 8000 kbps |
| 13:35:38 | JdGordon | oh farting freeking hell |
| 13:36:02 | JdGordon | #include "config.h" was on the wrong side of a ifdef... /me is going to bed |
| 13:38:16 | ShyK | linuxstb: in that case the libavcodec mpeg-1 decoder is quite poor :) |
| 13:38:27 | ShyK | their mpeg-4 decodes faster |
| 13:38:42 | ShyK | or |
| 13:38:58 | ShyK | maybe they took into account all the advanced mpeg-4 features |
| 13:39:05 | ShyK | like qpel and gmc |
| 13:39:17 | ShyK | those two option decrease speed by a huge amount |
| 13:39:27 | ShyK | options* |
| 13:48:19 | ShyK | and of course it may also be that performance on various types of cpus varies greatly due to optimizations and various requirments of each codec |
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| 14:03:02 | webguest59 | linuxstb: so you mean that audio on the 5G will work, and hopefully as good as on the 4G? |
| 14:03:33 | linuxstb | It's certainly better than it was. I've always been able to play some codecs - such as FLAC. |
| 14:04:43 | linuxstb | Do you have a 5g? |
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| 14:14:03 | amiconn | This iPod video lcd access looks incredibly twisted, and slow... |
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| 14:16:47 | linuxstb | It is - I'm just starting to look at what is going on. |
| 14:17:09 | linuxstb | Any suggestions would be welcome - but I don't know any more than what that code says. |
| 14:18:03 | linuxstb | But I do know that the IPL people are busy looking for alternative methods to access the LCD. |
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| 14:19:22 | amiconn | Calling a function for every pixel which does several ins & outs... |
| 14:20:45 | amiconn | At least the line/col loops could be optimised a bit by replacing 0xE0020 + curpixel << 2 by a single variable, |
| 14:21:06 | amiconn | of course incementing by 4 each time |
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| 14:22:13 | linuxstb | Do you have any plugins that you've written to test LCD performance? |
| 14:22:35 | amiconn | petur wrote one which he gave to me |
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| 14:22:44 | linuxstb | What does it do? |
| 14:23:02 | amiconn | It tests lcd_update()( and lcd_update_rect() with an 1/2 by 1/2 rectangle, measuring fps |
| 14:23:25 | petur | very basic thing... |
| 14:24:11 | linuxstb | Could I have a copy? |
| 14:24:41 | linuxstb | Do either of you know how many fps does it manage on a h3x0? |
| 14:24:56 | amiconn | ~80 fps for fullscreen at 45 MHz |
| 14:28:55 | petur | linuxstb: don't have the code here at work and it isn't adapted to the new plugin itf, but I think amiconn adapted it... |
| 14:29:05 | linuxstb | It's OK, amiconn has sent it to me. Thanks. |
| 14:29:11 | petur | ah ok |
| 14:30:28 | petur | probably has hungarian notation all over the place ;) |
| 14:30:57 | linuxstb | Results: 1:1 was 28.0, 1:4 was 61.5 |
| 14:31:25 | petur | slow |
| 14:31:40 | linuxstb | But hopefully improvable. |
| 14:32:03 | x1jmp | has anyon tried making a copy of wikipedia accessible on rockbox? |
| 14:32:28 | B4gder | x1jmp: the MR guys talk a lot about it |
| 14:32:33 | x1jmp | it would be nice to turn the jukebox into a encyclopedia :) |
| 14:32:36 | B4gder | but I guess that's about it |
| 14:32:41 | petur | linuxstb: of course, the display is bigger so more data to move around |
| 14:33:03 | B4gder | x1jmp: convert it to a neat format, make an index table, write a plugin. done. profit! |
| 14:33:43 | x1jmp | has anyone started with this? |
| 14:33:50 | B4gder | not that I know |
| 14:33:50 | Bg3r | noone, afaik |
| 14:35:45 | linuxstb | Simply making the function in the inner loop inline now gives me 31.0 and 65.5 |
| 14:36:14 | x1jmp | wouldn't this be possible with the dict plugin? |
| 14:36:30 | B4gder | x1jmp: quite possibly |
| 14:41:11 | B4gder | 31 * 320 * 240 * 2 = 4761600 bytes/sec |
| 14:41:25 | B4gder | 80 * 220 * 176 * 2 = 6195200 bytes/sec |
| 14:41:33 | B4gder | not _that_ huge difference |
| 14:41:35 | x1jmp | are there some information about the dict plugin, i couldn't find anything on rockbox.org |
| 14:42:20 | B4gder | x1jmp: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxDictionary |
| 14:43:59 | B4gder | then of course it was 80fps at 45MHz coldfire and 31fps at 75MHz ARM |
| 14:46:33 | petur | last time I ran this, on the H3x0 the 1/4 update was 4 times faster than fullscreen, but 31 and 65.5 fps means different efficiency for those implementations |
| 14:46:48 | linuxstb | I'm confused. amiconn's suggestion for replacing (OxE0020 + curpixel << 2) in the inner loop with a variable that is incremented by 4 is actually slower - 30.5 and 64.5 |
| 14:46:56 | B4gder | hehe |
| 14:47:20 | linuxstb | I wonder what gcc is up to... |
| 14:47:39 | B4gder | -S -fverbose-asm ! ;-) |
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| 14:48:10 | linuxstb | To use that, do I need to do "make V=1" and then copy and edit the gcc command? |
| 14:48:16 | B4gder | yes |
| 14:48:21 | B4gder | remove the -c |
| 14:48:43 | B4gder | possible change the -o to do use another name for the output |
| 14:49:17 | linuxstb | Thanks. I'll try that, but not now. |
| 14:50:58 | B4gder | I find those options quite educational |
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| 14:53:16 | webguest59 | sorry-back |
| 14:53:36 | webguest59 | linuxstb: yes, I have a 5G, but I havent tried rockbox yet since it wasnt really functional |
| 14:53:48 | webguest59 | I will definitely take it for a ride now |
| 14:54:12 | webguest59 | what would you say are the main differences between running rockbox on a 4G compared to a 5G? |
| 14:56:42 | linuxstb | The LCD is far slower. I've just done some tests, and it can manage 31fps. As a comparison, the iriver h300 can manage 80fps. |
| 14:56:52 | linuxstb | I'm about to test it on my 4G Photo. |
| 14:57:44 | webguest59 | aha |
| 14:58:08 | webguest59 | so how did you come up with the idea to bypass the LCD chip or what was it you did? |
| 14:59:29 | linuxstb | It was a pretty obvious thing to do - the LCD update function has to wait14ms for the Broadcom chip in the ipod to finish updating the LCD. I just added a call to the Rockbox yield() function so instead of doing nothing for those 14ms, Rockbox can carry on decoding audio. |
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| 15:00:10 | webguest59 | aha so the problem with the odd chip is still there, just not visible anymore |
| 15:00:11 | webguest59 | ? |
| 15:00:33 | linuxstb | Yes. But also the other parts of the LCD update function need work to make them work as fast as possible. |
| 15:00:55 | linuxstb | Plus of course the audio codecs themselves can be improved. |
| 15:01:35 | linuxstb | And the last resort is to wake up and start using the iPod's second CPU. |
| 15:01:48 | linuxstb | So there's lots of potential. |
| 15:02:09 | webguest59 | the ipodlinux people hasnt made any progress on the Broadcom chip? |
| 15:02:42 | linuxstb | As a comparison, my iPod Photo can manage 72.5fps for full screen updates, and 283.0 for 1/4 screen updates. |
| 15:03:05 | linuxstb | So it seems there is room for optimisation there as well. |
| 15:03:14 | webguest59 | yeah |
| 15:03:45 | linuxstb | What kind of audio files will you be using? |
| 15:03:52 | B4gder | well, that's just 17% faster |
| 15:03:58 | B4gder | considering the smaller screen |
| 15:04:21 | petur | do have a look why the 1/4 updates aren't 4 times faster... that seems odd to me |
| 15:04:43 | B4gder | the photo one seems to be x 4 |
| 15:04:53 | petur | saw that |
| 15:05:18 | petur | but 5G only x2 |
| 15:05:19 | linuxstb | That's because of the very slow "finishup" function which waits for the broadcom chip to finish updating the lcd. |
| 15:05:31 | petur | ah |
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| 15:06:03 | B4gder | linuxstb: what does that wait for? |
| 15:06:11 | webguest59 | mp3s mainly |
| 15:06:20 | B4gder | I mean, what would die if you didn't wait |
| 15:07:23 | linuxstb | I don't know, but it does read from a memory address before and after the wait. |
| 15:08:02 | linuxstb | The function is lcd_bcm_finishup() in firmware/drivers/lcd-ipodvideo.c |
| 15:08:12 | linuxstb | I know no more than that code. |
| 15:08:17 | B4gder | ok |
| 15:08:35 | linuxstb | Today's the first time I've actually looked at it in detail. |
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| 15:12:12 | petur | and of course all those addresses and values are undocumented? |
| 15:12:21 | linuxstb | Of course. |
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| 15:14:31 | Mikachu | is there a viewcvs for rockbox somewhere? |
| 15:14:44 | B4gder | possibly you could gain a few cycles in the loop by calculating the next address and value before waiting for the handshake bit |
| 15:15:07 | B4gder | Mikachu: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/ |
| 15:15:28 | Mikachu | ah, didn't find that when i looked for it |
| 15:15:53 | petur | does this page add any info on the ipod we don't know yet? http://www.videsignline.com/howto/innovativeapplications/177105493 |
| 15:17:49 | B4gder | btw, does the ipod color/photo _really_ use 18bits? |
| 15:18:04 | B4gder | hard to tell of course |
| 15:18:16 | linuxstb | petur: No, it looks like the article is based on the ipodlinux wiki :) |
| 15:18:49 | B4gder | since it seems very likely both the iriver h300 and iaudio x5 are blatantly lying about their 18bits |
| 15:18:52 | linuxstb | B4gder: What makes you ask that? I've never seen any suggest that it's 18-bit, apple always say 16-bit. |
| 15:19:00 | B4gder | ah |
| 15:19:08 | B4gder | petur's page says 260K colors |
| 15:19:20 | B4gder | my fault for not checking, sorry |
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| 15:20:54 | linuxstb | Interestingly, I've just looked on Apple's website, and they don't mention the depth at all (for the Nano). |
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| 15:22:38 | linuxstb | Just checked the 5G's specs - and they say "over 65,000 color lcd". |
| 15:23:06 | B4gder | markun: what does gigabeat claim? 18bit? |
| 15:30:04 | markun | B4gder: I've seen different numbers, but the 2.0 firmware uses 15 bit |
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| 15:30:49 | B4gder | ok |
| 15:31:30 | B4gder | possibly that would make sense to have a 5 => 6 bit lookup table in the driver and use use the existing 16bit ones |
| 15:32:10 | markun | B4gder: the toshiba uk site claims 18bit: http://www.gigabeat.toshiba.co.uk/static/products/f40/ |
| 15:32:27 | Bg3r | iriver claims this for h300 too ... |
| 15:32:32 | B4gder | a popular claim these days it seems |
| 15:32:43 | markun | I was told that photos look much better with the 3.0 firmware, maybe they changed the colour depth |
| 15:33:10 | linuxstb | The gigabeat can just use the LCD_RGBPACK() macro to pack the RGB into whatever format the lcd needs. We already have two 16-bit formats, so another wouldn't be any more work. |
| 15:33:26 | B4gder | true |
| 15:33:46 | B4gder | as long as it isn't >16 |
| 15:34:19 | linuxstb | Yes. It all depends how the lcd_update() function needs the data. |
| 15:35:20 | Mikachu | heh, apple lists this point as a feature for the nano, "Upgradable firmware enables support for future audio formats" |
| 15:36:05 | petur | before you know it they'll include a link to Rockbox :D |
| 15:38:10 | Mikachu | at the apple store, does the nano count as an 'iPod with color display'? i am guessing not |
| 15:39:03 | linuxstb | I assume that will be the 4G color. |
| 15:39:10 | Mikachu | ah, the nano is listed explicitly in another one so it doesn't |
| 15:39:23 | linuxstb | And is the 5g/video listed separately? |
| 15:39:31 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 15:39:42 | linuxstb | It's definitely the 4G color then. |
| 15:39:44 | Mikachu | there's nano, mini, ipod, ipod, ipod with color display and ipod with video |
| 15:39:56 | Mikachu | and two different pictures for the two ipods in the middle |
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| 15:40:18 | linuxstb | Are they the 3g and 4g then? |
| 15:40:39 | Mikachu | the first one looks like it has four buttons above the wheel |
| 15:41:29 | linuxstb | Yes, that's the 3g I think. They are described here: http://ipodlinux.org/Generations |
| 15:41:43 | Mikachu | ah |
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| 16:04:05 | Jungti1234 | ok um |
| 16:04:11 | Jungti1234 | here is 00:04 |
| 16:04:36 | Mikachu | korea? |
| 16:04:53 | Jungti1234 | yeah |
| 16:05:02 | yeahx | nice |
| 16:05:06 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 16:05:14 | Jungti1234 | I must sleep. |
| 16:05:39 | Jungti1234 | I have graduation ceremony tomorrow. |
| 16:05:48 | Jungti1234 | ahh today |
| 16:05:56 | Jungti1234 | :) good night all |
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| 16:06:39 | yeahx | just a little |
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| 17:15:45 | Lynx_ | does it make sense to replaygain scan a whole mp3 collection? |
| 17:16:30 | ShyK | think about it like this: why not? |
| 17:17:00 | ShyK | the one thing that doesn't make sense is the mp3 part |
| 17:18:03 | Lynx_ | why not? |
| 17:18:14 | ShyK | because mp3 stinks |
| 17:18:37 | Lynx_ | that depends on what you need it for |
| 17:18:48 | Lynx_ | what's the fastest way to do the scanning? |
| 17:18:59 | ShyK | foobar2000 |
| 17:19:36 | Lynx_ | that's already the fastest? hmm, this will take forever then |
| 17:20:06 | ShyK | the 0.9 beta versions should be much faster than 0.8.3 |
| 17:21:58 | Lynx_ | ok, i'll try that |
| 17:22:36 | ShyK | don't overwrite your 0.8.3 with 0.9 though |
| 17:22:54 | ShyK | unless you don't mind settings not being kept |
| 17:23:12 | Lynx_ | ok |
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| 17:26:56 | Lynx_ | if i scan a single mp3 file to add the replaygain info, will the result be the same if i scan it alone, or with a bunch of other files? |
| 17:27:32 | perpleXa | replaygain compares files |
| 17:27:48 | perpleXa | isnt that pretty pointless to scan one file alone? |
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| 17:28:26 | Lynx_ | well, i didn't know if the volume is adjusted to one standard, or to a average over all files scanned at one time |
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| 17:28:29 | yeahx | mp3s stink? |
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| 17:29:16 | vca | heh, worried about mp3 codec on a unit that probably has $0.20 op-amps in it |
| 17:30:12 | yeahx | what codec is best battery wise? |
| 17:30:24 | perpleXa | Lynx_: afaik they are set to an average value |
| 17:30:43 | perpleXa | so that too loud mp3s are bit more silent and vice versa |
| 17:30:44 | yeahx | I wanted to use ogg but I forgot someone meantioning to me back in the day that if it was put on a portible it would probably eat power |
| 17:31:04 | vca | i can't see replaygaining one track.. unless peak normalization is your thing, but that defeats the purpose |
| 17:31:07 | Lynx_ | perpleXa: ok, so there must be a way to add new files to the set already scanned, without rescanning the old files |
| 17:31:35 | perpleXa | i always scan whole albums with foobar |
| 17:31:37 | Kohlrabi | why not only RG-scan albums? |
| 17:31:45 | Kohlrabi | and not the whole collection |
| 17:32:02 | perpleXa | yeah |
| 17:32:07 | perpleXa | :) |
| 17:32:17 | Lynx_ | well, that's what i'm doing anyway |
| 17:32:22 | Kohlrabi | that is, if your tags are OK ;) |
| 17:32:46 | Lynx_ | the tags are always ok if you rip the cd's you own ;) |
| 17:32:53 | Kohlrabi | depends :) |
| 17:33:06 | Lynx_ | but, foobar does albums based on directory structure also |
| 17:33:19 | Kohlrabi | i think the rg-scan scans by album tag |
| 17:33:31 | Kohlrabi | But I may be wrong here |
| 17:33:56 | yeahx | wont work on your friends CDs? |
| 17:33:59 | Lynx_ | the 0.9 beta of foobar offers both |
| 17:34:03 | yeahx | hehe jk |
| 17:34:26 | Lynx_ | well, musicbrainz works wonders on fairly common music |
| 17:35:18 | Lynx_ | unless you have a vast collection of tibetian overtone chanting |
| 17:35:25 | Kohlrabi | if I may: |
| 17:35:26 | Kohlrabi | Replay Gain works by first performing a psychoacoustic analysis scan of the entire audio file to measure the perceived loudness and peak levels. The difference between the loudness and the target loudness (usually 89 dB SPL[1]) is calculated; this is the gain value. |
| 17:35:41 | Kohlrabi | So you can scan 1 file alone, I think |
| 17:35:43 | Lynx_ | aha, so there is a target loundness |
| 17:36:02 | Lynx_ | must be then |
| 17:36:05 | Kohlrabi | yep |
| 17:36:21 | Kohlrabi | so if you scan all files without album gain they will be all equally loud |
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| 17:51:55 | yeahx | your not missing anything |
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| 17:55:44 | Sacro | evening all |
| 17:56:28 | Sacro | how many files should the rockbox download have? |
| 17:57:17 | mar_k | many |
| 17:57:30 | mar_k | possibly even lots |
| 17:57:34 | Sacro | hmm, not just rockbox.iriver |
| 17:58:12 | Sacro | ahh, its .rockbox |
| 17:59:51 | mar_k | .rockbox contains all yer bits n bobs |
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| 18:00:12 | mar_k | .anything is hidden under unix based OSes by default |
| 18:01:01 | Sacro | yeah, i noticed |
| 18:01:06 | yeahx | itd be cool if rockbox was hidden on the ipod |
| 18:01:17 | mar_k | it is by default |
| 18:01:32 | mar_k | it should be anyway, thats what it does on iriver and archos targets |
| 18:01:43 | Sacro | i can see rockbox.iriver |
| 18:01:44 | mar_k | unless you set it to show all files |
| 18:02:13 | yeahx | on my nano it shows the rockbox file |
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| 18:06:40 | mar_k | the rockbox.ipod or whatever is visible |
| 18:06:57 | mar_k | becuase on most targets you can load a different kernel by "Playing" it |
| 18:07:09 | mar_k | RoLo simply isnt ported to ipod yet |
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| 18:21:04 | yeahx | so if I put linux on there I could do that? |
| 18:21:08 | yeahx | oh ok |
| 18:21:15 | yeahx | if rolo was supported it could |
| 18:21:20 | yeahx | missed that |
| 18:21:24 | mar_k | no |
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| 18:21:31 | mar_k | rolo is for loading other rockbox kerneks |
| 18:21:34 | mar_k | *kernels |
| 18:21:39 | yeahx | aah ok |
| 18:21:45 | mar_k | the bootloader is planned to have linux boot support though |
| 18:21:47 | yeahx | Im not too interested in linux |
| 18:22:03 | yeahx | but if I can and it doesnt take too much space why not |
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| 18:25:29 | iriverH340 | hi people, I own an iriverH340 and I followed your suggestion and installed rockbox yesterday |
| 18:25:50 | Sacro | cool, thats what i did |
| 18:25:51 | mar_k | and? :) |
| 18:25:58 | iriverH340 | but I found the fm radio preset a bit buggy |
| 18:26:08 | mar_k | how so? |
| 18:26:17 | iriverH340 | when I preset, I get a list of characters to name it |
| 18:26:23 | iriverH340 | and rockbox get hang there |
| 18:26:52 | iriverH340 | otherwise, rockbox works fantastic!! |
| 18:27:27 | Sacro | does it support WMA yet? |
| 18:27:34 | yeahx | who cares |
| 18:27:40 | yeahx | sorry |
| 18:27:52 | iriverH340 | anyone here uses rockbox on H340 and experienced with radio preset? |
| 18:27:59 | yeahx | thats just a waste of time |
| 18:28:07 | iriverH340 | what's a waste of time? |
| 18:28:21 | mar_k | radio on a 50gb hdd player at all :P |
| 18:28:24 | mar_k | *40 |
| 18:28:38 | iriverH340 | sorry, I miss the point |
| 18:28:40 | yeahx | wma |
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| 18:28:50 | mar_k | i never use the radio on my h140 so im not much help :P |
| 18:28:58 | * | Sacro unmounts his h340 and looks at the raido |
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| 18:29:26 | iriverH340 | I use the radio when I go to sleep every night, together with sleep disconnection |
| 18:29:31 | Sacro | can i use a H340 in the bath... |
| 18:29:39 | iriverH340 | kind of feeling accompanied |
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| 18:30:08 | Sacro | what time is the daily build done? |
| 18:30:35 | Sacro | and is there a direct frequency input mode? |
| 18:30:37 | iriverH340 | so, noone tried radio presets? should I post a but? |
| 18:30:40 | iriverH340 | a bug sorry? |
| 18:31:52 | Sacro | i dunno, works fine here |
| 18:33:02 | iriverH340 | Sacro: you have radio presets? |
| 18:33:27 | Sacro | just created one fine |
| 18:33:33 | mar_k | dailies are pointless IMO |
| 18:33:49 | mar_k | except maybe for finding stable builds when a bad build is introduced |
| 18:34:27 | linuxstb | mar_k: The Rockbox bootloader on the ipod has always been able to boot linux . |
| 18:34:36 | iriverH340 | Sacro: I downloaded the latest daily with H300 optimized, which one do you use? |
| 18:34:47 | Sacro | latest H300 |
| 18:35:03 | iriverH340 | Sacro: ah, and you can preset without problem? |
| 18:35:17 | Sacro | well, i cant input text very well, but i did a preset |
| 18:35:19 | iriverH340 | Sacro: is there any manual page where I can read how to preset, perhaps I do something wrong |
| 18:35:38 | Sacro | select radio, tune in, hold nav/i add preset |
| 18:36:09 | Sacro | type name, press play/pause |
| 18:36:15 | Sacro | and bobs your mothers uncle |
| 18:36:20 | Sacro | *mothers brother |
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| 18:36:35 | * | Sacro sits and listens to Sub Sub on the radio |
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| 18:37:05 | iriverH340 | I have tried again and womething goes wrong |
| 18:37:30 | iriverH340 | I press C, then I go to O and in between a q appears and C disapears and it doesn't move anymore |
| 18:38:39 | Sacro | hmm, works fine here |
| 18:39:09 | iriverH340 | how are the letters taken? with nav? |
| 18:39:44 | Paprica | New powerup in BrickMania - Now in the CVS |
| 18:40:20 | Paprica | =] |
| 18:40:41 | iriverH340 | what is powerup? |
| 18:40:48 | Paprica | blah |
| 18:40:57 | Paprica | do you know brickmania? |
| 18:41:11 | iriverH340 | no :) a game I suppose |
| 18:41:13 | Mikachu | is there nano support yet? |
| 18:41:30 | Mikachu | i tried it but the courses don't fit on screen and the ball bounces on the screen edge :) |
| 18:41:43 | Paprica | iriverH340, yep |
| 18:42:06 | Paprica | Mikachu, it needs adjust.... |
| 18:42:18 | iriverH340 | no way, my radio preset isn't working at all |
| 18:42:20 | Mikachu | it looked nice though, and ran fine |
| 18:42:32 | iriverH340 | Sacro: when the radio is on, does your machine go very slow? |
| 18:42:57 | Sacro | iriverH340: not that ive noticed |
| 18:43:07 | Sacro | how do you de-sticky your paddle? |
| 18:44:09 | iriverH340 | in my machine, when the radio is selected, everything goes SLOW!! |
| 18:44:14 | * | Sacro will waste many hours playing that |
| 18:44:25 | iriverH340 | it already happened with the original iriver firmware |
| 18:45:31 | linuxstb | Hurray, brickmania multi-ball :) |
| 18:46:30 | Paprica | =] |
| 18:46:32 | Mikachu | the builtin ipod nano one is sooo bad |
| 18:46:54 | Mikachu | it's like a bad flash game, sometimes the ball goes through several bricks |
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| 18:49:43 | yeahx | controls suck anyway |
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| 18:50:00 | * | godzirra waves. |
| 18:50:03 | godzirra | Howdy folks. |
| 18:50:28 | imphasing_ | It's godzirra! |
| 18:50:29 | Mikachu | the scroll wheel can only be used for lists, i don't like when plugins use it to move updown and use clicking for left/right |
| 18:51:04 | * | godzirra raars. |
| 18:51:27 | yeahx | Im still not used to the rockbox controls |
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| 18:51:53 | Mikachu | i also changed the wheel delta threshold to 10 from 4 |
| 18:51:57 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I agree (and I did it...) |
| 18:52:01 | godzirra | any further word on rockbox on ipod videos? |
| 18:52:19 | linuxstb | Further to what? |
| 18:52:38 | yeahx | I swear I get stuck between the menu and directory and cant get back to the now playing screen sometimes but I guess I need to press something else |
| 18:52:47 | yeahx | aah reverse right? |
| 18:52:54 | yeahx | I keep forgetting |
| 18:53:13 | Mikachu | the playlist viewing from the wps context menu is weird |
| 18:53:26 | Mikachu | it is the only menu that needs LEFT to exit i think |
| 18:53:27 | yeahx | Mikachu: how often do you update your rockbox? |
| 18:54:10 | Mikachu | i've copied rockbox.ipod to my ipod 70 times in the last 4 days |
| 18:54:22 | Mikachu | according to my history file |
| 18:55:25 | yeahx | I checked for changes today and didnt see any, not sure if I looked at the right place |
| 18:55:32 | imphasing_ | godzirra: Audio works. |
| 18:55:32 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 18:55:49 | imphasing_ | And I think there have been some minor improvments in the screen speed |
| 18:55:50 | Mikachu | yeahx: do you mean if you press MENU in the playlist viewer? |
| 18:56:00 | Mikachu | yeahx: i have submitted a bug about that with a tentative fix |
| 18:56:03 | yeahx | why so many times? are you making a lot of changes |
| 18:56:18 | Mikachu | yeah i changed it myself of course |
| 18:56:51 | yeahx | not a playlist but a folder I think |
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| 18:58:09 | yeahx | sometimes it wont go back to the now playing screen |
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| 18:58:37 | markun | Does anyone have a link to the big rockbox logo for me? |
| 18:58:50 | Mikachu | yeahx: this is the one i'm talking about http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1430212&group_id=44306&atid=439118 |
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| 19:03:55 | yeahx | I didnt even know about that feature |
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| 19:04:10 | Mikachu | i always enter that menu by accident when i try to quit the playlist viewer |
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| 19:04:28 | Mikachu | and it was a bit anoying to have to reboot veery time |
| 19:04:31 | yeahx | Im still new to rockbox on nano and havent played much |
| 19:04:59 | Mikachu | i've used it since saturday |
| 19:05:00 | iriverH340 | hey, I connect my H340 to my linux laptop and the laptop doesn't recognize it, although with iriver firmware it did, any help? |
| 19:05:22 | yeahx | my nano shut off yesterday, I thought the battery died |
| 19:07:13 | iriverH340 | what is the key combination to start iriver firmware instead of rockbox with H340??? |
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| 19:09:45 | Sacro | hold down record and play |
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| 19:20:47 | yeahx | does the battery indicator work on ipods other than nano? |
| 19:21:10 | Mikachu | ipl reads it fine i think, so it should be doable |
| 19:21:38 | linuxstb | yeahx: No, it's not implemented for any ipod yet. |
| 19:21:39 | yeahx | cool |
| 19:22:12 | linuxstb | But when it is, the same code will work on all ipods. |
| 19:22:59 | yeahx | thats what I thought, why I asked |
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| 19:26:32 | Mikachu | where is the code for the text entry screen? |
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| 19:28:39 | lamed | hello |
| 19:29:01 | lamed | amiconn: you're ignoring my emails (!) |
| 19:29:10 | linuxstb | Mikachu: apps/recorder/keyboard.c |
| 19:29:23 | Mikachu | ah, that wasn't entirely obvious |
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| 19:31:15 | linuxstb | There are two subdirectories in apps - recorder and player. These relate to the first two players that Rockbox worked on. The recorder had a bitmapped LCD, and the player only had a character-based LCD. |
| 19:31:50 | linuxstb | But CVS doesn't make it easy for us to rename directories or move files, which is why that has stayed. |
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| 20:11:55 | Mikachu | changed the config screen to use the four click directions for moving and menu+select to abort... much more usable imo |
| 20:12:08 | Mikachu | and most things seem to use menu+select for exit |
| 20:12:21 | linuxstb | Which config screen? |
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| 20:16:41 | Mikachu | uh sorry, i meant the text entry screen |
| 20:16:51 | Mikachu | i used the write .cfg as a test |
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| 20:25:33 | linuxstb | Sounds good to me - I agree that when we need four direction keys, we shouldn't use the clickwheel. What do you map to delete? |
| 20:27:09 | linuxstb | bbl |
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| 20:37:41 | yeahx | man ogg drains so much power |
| 20:37:45 | yeahx | how disapointing |
| 20:38:16 | yeahx | I want to listen to more for more than 2 hours :) |
| 20:39:15 | yeahx | no off for backlight yet? |
| 20:42:18 | muesli__ | mr down again? |
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| 20:44:05 | RoyalMike | hey do you guys know if gameboy roms work on ipod colour? |
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| 20:59:16 | linuxstb | yeahx: Someone did some tests with Ogg on a Nano, and got about 7.5 hours. |
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| 21:06:17 | yeahx | wierd |
| 21:07:49 | Mikachu | linuxstb: same as before |
| 21:07:54 | Mikachu | select on the input line |
| 21:10:18 | yeahx | I saw that too |
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| 21:11:03 | yeahx | but I only listened to maybe 2 hours and when I just started under original firmware to charge it was pretty low |
| 21:11:17 | yeahx | I dont think my headphones drain that much |
| 21:11:23 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-text-entry-bindings-ipod.patch |
| 21:11:36 | yeahx | maybe with the sound down with no headphones it could go 7.5 :) |
| 21:11:48 | allix | does the ipod port support flac and ogg? |
| 21:11:53 | Mikachu | yes |
| 21:11:54 | yeahx | yep |
| 21:11:59 | yeahx | flac, hahaha |
| 21:12:04 | Mikachu | (i think flac is a bit silly on a dap) |
| 21:12:04 | yeahx | perfect for portables |
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| 21:12:33 | yeahx | I guess ogg is too, Ive waited years to play ogg on an ipod too |
| 21:12:53 | Mikachu | ogg is good, smaller files = more music |
| 21:13:11 | allix | ive just ordered a iaudio m5 , as it has flac and ogg support |
| 21:13:18 | allix | i was not sure if rockbox could |
| 21:13:24 | allix | on ipod anyway |
| 21:13:38 | yeahx | your funny :) |
| 21:14:04 | Mikachu | what about his funny? |
| 21:14:12 | allix | i might be able to cancel it |
| 21:14:25 | allix | it will be g5, is that ok? |
| 21:15:02 | yeahx | flac for portable use |
| 21:15:07 | yeahx | sorry Im just really tired |
| 21:15:14 | allix | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#When_will_Rockbox_for_the_iPod_V |
| 21:15:24 | allix | it just not mention anything there about g5 |
| 21:15:27 | yeahx | and I dont understand some sound formats |
| 21:16:04 | linuxstb | allix: Yes, the 5g is getting better every day. The FAQ needs updating. |
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| 21:21:49 | Mikachu | linuxstb: should i put that patch in the tracker? |
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| 21:28:43 | linuxstb | Yes please. I don't have time to look at it now. |
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| 21:29:45 | Mikachu | wilco |
| 21:30:38 | * | linuxstb is listening to skip-free 320kbps MP3 on his ipod 5g... |
| 21:31:27 | * | petur points to his H340 doing the same :D |
| 21:31:39 | * | Mikachu points to his athlon 2600+ |
| 21:32:14 | linuxstb | I've got the LCD updates at 42fps now |
| 21:32:14 | * | t0mas points to his athlon 3200+ |
| 21:32:15 | t0mas | :P |
| 21:32:19 | Mikachu | damn :( |
| 21:32:28 | * | t0mas prods lostlogic |
| 21:32:38 | t0mas | time to show your Athlon X2 ;) |
| 21:32:46 | yeahx | is there a guide for formats and bitrate battery usage for the ipod in general? |
| 21:32:47 | petur | athlon 64 3500+ 'venice' anyone? |
| 21:33:11 | t0mas | for free? ;) |
| 21:33:24 | linuxstb | yeahx: It hasn't been written yet. Feel free to contribute: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime |
| 21:33:43 | Mikachu | maybe it will be easier to determine after the battery display is added.. |
| 21:38:14 | yeahx | oh yeh I came accross the runtime thing on there |
| 21:39:20 | yeahx | it wouldn't help with me cause I pause from time to time and have to turn it up loud due to noise |
| 21:43:11 | allix | i cannot cancel the order |
| 21:43:27 | allix | i could return it ,get the money back then get the opod |
| 21:43:35 | allix | its seems to much work |
| 21:47:06 | yeahx | what kind of player is that? |
| 21:47:09 | yeahx | Im sure its fine |
| 21:48:09 | allix | is video supported in g5 with rockbox? |
| 21:48:38 | allix | its a 20gb flac, ogg, mp3 ,wma hardisk based player |
| 21:48:43 | Mikachu | i don't think rb has any video support? |
| 21:49:07 | allix | so all i would be gaining by using rockbox on ipod is 10 extra gb |
| 21:49:23 | allix | its also 15 pounds more |
| 21:49:47 | t0mas | huh? |
| 21:50:20 | allix | the iaudio m5 costs me 179 and the ipod 194.99 |
| 21:50:36 | allix | m5 = 20gb , ipod = 30gb |
| 21:50:45 | t0mas | ah, didn't notice you were talking about the iaudio m5 player |
| 21:50:54 | allix | thats the one i ordered |
| 21:51:16 | allix | it was that or ipod |
| 21:51:22 | allix | i decided with m5 |
| 21:51:41 | allix | as i did not know that flac and ogg was developed for ipod g5 |
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| 22:04:38 | t0mas | allix: afaik the ipod g5 just started working with rockbox |
| 22:04:48 | t0mas | so you couldn't have known for long |
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| 22:05:36 | allix | i am sure iaudio is a fine portable player |
| 22:08:03 | yeahx | rockbox is more like an afterthought for some people |
| 22:08:42 | yeahx | some want the ipod but they want the features of other players |
| 22:08:44 | allix | if i knew it could support flac and ogg , i would of got one |
| 22:08:50 | allix | yeah |
| 22:08:53 | allix | thats me |
| 22:09:33 | allix | how does it play ogg and flac ? |
| 22:09:43 | allix | i mean very people have heard of rockbox |
| 22:09:45 | yeahx | Ive wanted to use ogg for a while but didnt want an iriver |
| 22:09:48 | allix | i am surprised |
| 22:09:53 | petur | the $Id line on top of a file is updated automatically on commit, correct? |
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| 22:10:00 | linuxstb | petur: Yes. |
| 22:10:05 | petur | ok |
| 22:10:05 | yeahx | ogg sounds nice on my nano |
| 22:10:21 | allix | does it play ogg completely? |
| 22:10:27 | allix | all qualities |
| 22:10:38 | yeahx | I havent tested enough |
| 22:10:43 | allix | ok |
| 22:10:56 | allix | if it does not, i don;t feel so stupid :) |
| 22:10:58 | yeahx | Im sure other people have |
| 22:11:10 | allix | the webpage does not mention it |
| 22:11:32 | yeahx | I encoded a bunch of cd's to try it out yesterday |
| 22:11:41 | safetydan | Seriously, is there a reason the Bubbles plugin isn't include in the build? |
| 22:11:52 | safetydan | It is, as they say, "teh awesome". |
| 22:11:54 | linuxstb | Is it in the patch tracker? |
| 22:11:58 | safetydan | no unfortunately |
| 22:12:06 | safetydan | slacker developers |
| 22:12:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | allix: It plays Ogg up to Q8 fine on iPod Nano (though if you enable equalizer settings AND replaygain, it can start underrunning) |
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| 22:13:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | They really should put bubbles on the patch tracker if it's not |
| 22:13:44 | safetydan | ah, there might be reason he hasn't submitted it, claims the source code is messy |
| 22:13:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | It works fine on H120 and Nano, and I hear it works good on H3x0 as well |
| 22:14:26 | linuxstb | safetydan: Everyone says that :) |
| 22:14:26 | safetydan | already has CVS access |
| 22:14:33 | safetydan | well I guess I'll just wait for him to commit it |
| 22:14:40 | linuxstb | Who is he? |
| 22:14:41 | safetydan | Software is never finished. It's just abandoned. |
| 22:14:43 | yeahx | I heard there is gameboy for iriver rb, true? |
| 22:15:08 | linuxstb | yeahx: Yes. |
| 22:15:09 | safetydan | linuxstb, not a clue. Goes by "RotAtoR" on misticriver |
| 22:15:26 | linuxstb | OK - he wrote Bejewelled as well. |
| 22:15:43 | yeahx | is some one working on it for nano? |
| 22:15:44 | allix | so 9 and 10 will not work? |
| 22:15:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, and never submitted the bejeweled patch that makes it use external bitmaps, did he? |
| 22:16:01 | linuxstb | yeahx: No, but it doesn't need very much work. |
| 22:16:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | allix: 9 and 10 aren't tested. |
| 22:16:03 | yeahx | nes on nano would be cool |
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| 22:16:27 | yeahx | interesting |
| 22:16:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | allix: Honestly though, do 8 itself is overkill, don't you think? |
| 22:17:02 | allix | yeah |
| 22:17:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | But 9 and 10 might work, I can't really say. I just know that 8 with replaygain and equalizer enabled will start showing signs of problems every now and then |
| 22:17:37 | allix | does applying the patch take anything away from the apple firmware? |
| 22:17:43 | linuxstb | Rockboy (that's the name of the GB emulator) runs on my 4G color, and also on the 5G. But the button mapping needs fixing (currently only the direction keys and start are mapped to something), and it also needs adapting for the Nano's small LCD (it's smaller than a GB's LCD) |
| 22:17:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | allix: Applying the patch? |
| 22:18:03 | allix | firmware i mean |
| 22:18:16 | linuxstb | Installing Rockbox on your iPod (or anything else) is like installing Linux on a Windows PC. You can dual-boot. |
| 22:18:29 | allix | i did not know that |
| 22:19:14 | linuxstb | On some players you have the option of completely removing the original firmware, but it's never compulsory. |
| 22:19:28 | allix | dual boot would be ideal |
| 22:19:45 | linuxstb | On the ipod you have triple-booting - you can use ipodlinux as well if you want to. |
| 22:19:54 | allix | because i am not sure if rockbox can play videos and display phoots |
| 22:20:15 | allix | although videos as such a small size suck |
| 22:20:15 | yeahx | is there a way to have apple's default instead? |
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| 22:20:31 | allix | hence i chose m5 not x5 |
| 22:20:54 | linuxstb | yeahx: Yes - you (or anyone else) can edit the source code to the bootloader and change it. |
| 22:21:07 | yeahx | nice |
| 22:21:30 | linuxstb | gotta go. back later. |
| 22:22:55 | allix | i reckon if rockbox was widely known many mp3 alternatives would not be bought |
| 22:23:14 | allix | whoever i speak to buy non - ipods for the formats they can play |
| 22:23:31 | petur | rockbox as sales arguement ;) |
| 22:23:54 | yeahx | yep |
| 22:24:01 | allix | its a bit like psp |
| 22:24:04 | bluey | linuxstb: is it worse to use ipod linux loader2 instead of rockboot? |
| 22:24:20 | bluey | just asking because i just installing and don't know how stable loader2 is |
| 22:24:23 | yeahx | yeh but good |
| 22:24:27 | allix | thats what i am thinking can rockbox fuck up a ipod |
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| 22:24:53 | allix | it cannot |
| 22:25:04 | allix | otherwise would you guys be using it |
| 22:25:06 | petur | bluey: [22:21] <linuxstb> gotta go. back later. |
| 22:25:21 | bluey | =) |
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| 22:27:54 | yeahx | allix have you considered a gp2x? |
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| 22:28:08 | allix | it only supports 1 gb |
| 22:28:30 | yeahx | oh right I forgot you want a HD player |
| 22:28:49 | allix | ive payed for the m5 |
| 22:29:52 | allix | it only has 20gb instead of 30gb ipod |
| 22:31:32 | yeahx | that will do |
| 22:32:55 | NicoFR | linuxstb: you can probably help me on this... i was trying to add a setting for my backlight-navi patch (1406891) and i realised intercepting NAVI presses in the button driver probably isn't the right thing to do |
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| 22:33:29 | NicoFR | and especially settings that interfere with firmware doesn't feel right... |
| 22:33:53 | NicoFR | so i was wondering where i could filter button presses on apps side |
| 22:33:54 | yeahx | trying to get the backlight to turn off? |
| 22:34:17 | NicoFR | yeahx: getting it to turn on when NAVI is pressed |
| 22:34:22 | NicoFR | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1406891&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 22:34:26 | yeahx | oh |
| 22:34:42 | yeahx | I want to turn off the backlight |
| 22:34:45 | NicoFR | it already works but there is no setting for it |
| 22:34:52 | NicoFR | thre is a function for that |
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| 22:35:20 | yeahx | actually its weird, holding menu in apple firmware doesnt turn on backlight on my nano |
| 22:35:41 | yeahx | even the plastic wrapped around it said that on it and Im used to it from my previous ipods |
| 22:37:34 | Bagder | linuxstb: neat lcd opt! |
| 22:38:13 | yeahx | he's away I think |
| 22:38:41 | NicoFR | iirc there is still room for optimisation in the H300 lcd driver... is anyone working on it and what has to be done ? |
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| 22:53:31 | Mikachu | why would replaygain use more cpu? |
| 22:54:09 | aegray | linuxstb: nice work :) |
| 22:54:14 | aegray | i'll have to see it to believe it though |
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| 22:55:31 | safetydan | Mikachu, extra pass over the audio to apply the gain |
| 22:55:45 | Mikachu | can't you just modify the overall volume instead? |
| 22:55:56 | Mikachu | or is the granularity too low? |
| 22:56:42 | safetydan | probably the granularity is too low |
| 22:56:46 | BHSPitLappy | amazing work, you guys! |
| 22:56:47 | safetydan | but that's just a guess |
| 22:57:05 | Shadowarrior13 | Heh |
| 22:57:30 | safetydan | If you want the details, it's in dsp.c around line 703 |
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| 22:57:54 | safetydan | or dsp_process() to see what's being done to your audio before playback |
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| 22:59:41 | Lear | safetydan: mainly because by working the audio directly, before scaling to 16 bits, you can avoid clipping. |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:06 | Lear | and you don't need to worry about exactly when the track change is actually heard. :) |
| 23:01:49 | safetydan | clipping too yeah |
| 23:01:50 | Mikachu | wouldn't it make sense to apply the gain in the same loop that writes the audio? |
| 23:01:54 | safetydan | should have thought of that |
| 23:03:09 | Lear | mikachu: what if the gain shouldn't be applied for some reason? then you'd have to do checks in the loop, or always multiply with 1.0, or something... |
| 23:03:15 | Lear | or duplicate loops... |
| 23:03:43 | Mikachu | you already have duplicate loops now |
| 23:03:51 | Lear | in short, keeps things simpler. And with iram buffers, the cost isn't that large. |
| 23:04:15 | Lear | but adding the replaygain case would make things worse. |
| 23:04:37 | Shadowarrior13 | I seriously just installed rockbox in like, 7 minutes. I've done this too much. |
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| 23:04:41 | Shadowarrior13 | Over the span of like, 5 days. |
| 23:04:47 | Mikachu | you could have if dsp->replaygain and have apply gain and write samples in a loop there, and in the other case, just a loop that writes the samples |
| 23:04:57 | safetydan | multiple passes over the same data may actually be quicker than branchy code on some architectures as well |
| 23:05:22 | Lear | But for dithering, it has to be a separate loop, only way to do it properly. |
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| 23:05:49 | Mikachu | okay |
| 23:06:08 | safetydan | also, the source is there, try moving things around and see if it goes faster |
| 23:06:22 | Mikachu | do you have a top plugin? :) |
| 23:06:27 | Shadowarrior13 | Alright, wtf/ |
| 23:06:33 | safetydan | look at the debug menu |
| 23:06:36 | Mikachu | oh yeah |
| 23:06:45 | Shadowarrior13 | Seriously, I've done this from scratch so many times. And I keep getting the SAME EXACT GLITCH. |
| 23:06:45 | safetydan | the audio thread stuff should give you the boost ratio |
| 23:07:10 | Mikachu | hm the apply_gain has a comment about having to apply before resample, so i guess it would be too confusing |
| 23:07:21 | Shadowarrior13 | Any 5G experts in here? |
| 23:07:46 | allix | does anyone have any screenshots of rockbox on ipod g5? |
| 23:08:03 | imphasing | I hear there's 42fps on the 5G ipod... |
| 23:08:05 | imphasing | :D |
| 23:08:11 | Shadowarrior13 | I WOULD if the fucking rockbox WORKED on mine. |
| 23:08:13 | Paprica | linuxstb? |
| 23:08:34 | Mikachu | i keep reading his nick as linuxstd |
| 23:08:39 | Shadowarrior13 | And I'm about to throw my ipod at you. |
| 23:08:56 | Mikachu | Shadowarrior13: i can give you my address if you want to throw it here |
| 23:08:59 | NicoFR | throw it at me :D |
| 23:09:01 | Shadowarrior13 | XD |
| 23:09:09 | Paprica | how can i check the fps? |
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| 23:09:24 | * | RotAtoR 's ears are burning |
| 23:09:27 | NicoFR | Paprica: i think you need a special plugin |
| 23:09:27 | Shadowarrior13 | Seriously, is there any possibility that the problem isn't my installing, but my ipod is somehow different from everyone elses? :P |
| 23:09:40 | RotAtoR | I suppose I should finally get around to committing by bejeweled patch... |
| 23:10:03 | allix | Shadowarrior13: it could be that you have a new firmware |
| 23:10:08 | Shadowarrior13 | 1.0 |
| 23:10:12 | Mikachu | RotAtoR: what did you change? |
| 23:10:24 | Bagder | or rather have the old |
| 23:10:35 | Shadowarrior13 | I'll try 1.1, though I hate it. |
| 23:10:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | allix: The version of his firmware wouldn't affect *inside* of rockbox so much. |
| 23:10:42 | allix | ok |
| 23:10:42 | Shadowarrior13 | Or not. |
| 23:10:57 | RotAtoR | Mikachu: lots of stuff: speed fixes, graphics fixes, uses external bitmaps, support for more targets |
| 23:11:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Shadowwarrior13: From what you've described, it sounds like either a bug in rockbox, or a hardware problem with your player's USB port. |
| 23:11:15 | allix | does it have lyrics ? |
| 23:11:23 | allix | somehow on iaudio you can |
| 23:11:24 | Mikachu | could you change the keybinds for ipod 4g to use the click buttons for moving while you're at it? |
| 23:11:35 | Shadowarrior13 | I don't see why it would have a problem with USB, it's working. |
| 23:11:36 | RotAtoR | Mikachu: already done ;) |
| 23:11:47 | Mikachu | ah, good |
| 23:12:13 | Shadowarrior13 | I'd like to try doing what you said and see if it fixes it. |
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| 23:13:28 | Shadowarrior13 | And he leaves. |
| 23:16:31 | BHSPitLappy | so who has a 5G, and has tested the new hotness? |
| 23:16:59 | imphasing | I'm working on it |
| 23:16:59 | imphasing | :D |
| 23:17:04 | Shadowarrior13 | The new hotness doesn't work >.< |
| 23:17:11 | imphasing | You're not doing it right. |
| 23:17:14 | Shadowarrior13 | I'm gonna try a bleeding edge build. |
| 23:17:14 | imphasing | :P |
| 23:17:24 | Shadowarrior13 | I've done it right numerous times, as well as other people doing it right for me :P |
| 23:17:31 | Shadowarrior13 | Same friggin results. |
| 23:17:33 | imphasing | It always works fine for me.. |
| 23:17:34 | imphasing | =/ |
| 23:17:37 | Shadowarrior13 | Well, I hate you. |
| 23:17:41 | imphasing | :( |
| 23:18:00 | BHSPitLappy | Shadowarrior13: well duh, it -just- made into cvs |
| 23:18:09 | BHSPitLappy | imphasing: what's taking so long? |
| 23:18:13 | BHSPitLappy | :p |
| 23:18:29 | imphasing | Er.. |
| 23:18:32 | imphasing | I have to build it. |
| 23:18:34 | imphasing | :D |
| 23:18:38 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
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| 23:19:42 | BHSPitLappy | imphasing: isn't there a bleeding edge build for the 5g now? |
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| 23:19:58 | Shadowarrior13 | Would me having a 60gig have anything to do with it? |
| 23:20:04 | Shadowarrior13 | And yes, there is. |
| 23:20:11 | NicoFR | probably not |
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| 23:20:17 | Shadowarrior13 | Just wondering. |
| 23:20:20 | NicoFR | what's the problem exactly ? |
| 23:20:26 | BHSPitLappy | http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip :P |
| 23:20:31 | Shadowarrior13 | Boots up to the rbx logo, then a stuck USB logo. |
| 23:20:43 | NicoFR | oh |
| 23:20:45 | BHSPitLappy | Shadowarrior13: umm, unplug the usb |
| 23:20:48 | BHSPitLappy | :) |
| 23:20:48 | Shadowarrior13 | Can't do anything about it, and I've used a million different rockboxes. |
| 23:20:54 | Shadowarrior13 | There -is- no USB plugged in :P |
| 23:21:07 | BHSPitLappy | that's what -you- think |
| 23:21:14 | Shadowarrior13 | *looks at ipod* |
| 23:21:18 | Shadowarrior13 | *looks at BHS* |
| 23:21:21 | Shadowarrior13 | Nah. |
| 23:21:28 | * | BHSPitLappy looks at toothpaste |
| 23:21:33 | Mikachu | what happens if you boot it with the cable in? |
| 23:21:38 | Shadowarrior13 | You got your toothpaste in my peanut butter! |
| 23:21:41 | Shadowarrior13 | Same thing. |
| 23:21:43 | BHSPitLappy | it gets f |
| 23:22:00 | BHSPitLappy | You got peanut butter on my toothpaste! |
| 23:22:08 | * | BHSPitLappy tastes |
| 23:22:14 | * | BHSPitLappy looks surprised |
| 23:22:21 | * | BHSPitLappy vomits all over Shadowarrior13 |
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| 23:22:50 | sw13 | wtf was that |
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| 23:23:10 | sw13 | Oh. |
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| 23:23:13 | linuxstb | Shadowarrior13: If you're around in an hour or so, then I can make a test build for you. |
| 23:23:17 | * | linuxstb leaves again... |
| 23:23:23 | sw13 | I'll probably be here :P |
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| 23:24:17 | markun | linuxstb: do you have the hi-res rockbox logo or know where I can download it? |
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| 23:24:36 | sw13 | Moooooo |
| 23:24:51 | Mikachu | fish? |
| 23:25:00 | sw13 | Yup. |
| 23:27:12 | markun | Bagder: you there? |
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| 23:27:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sonuva. |
| 23:27:40 | Bagder | a bit |
| 23:27:54 | markun | do you know where I can download the hi-res rockbox logo? |
| 23:28:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sorry 'bout that. I'm getting tired of things that say "X will now restart your computer" rather than "Would you like X to restart, or would you rather do it yourself?" |
| 23:28:21 | Bagder | hang on |
| 23:28:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | markun: Isn't it included in the manual package now? |
| 23:28:26 | markun | thanks |
| 23:28:30 | markun | is it? |
| 23:28:37 | Bagder | www.rockbox.org/tshirt.old/rockboxHighRes.tif |
| 23:28:50 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: many years ago when i ran windows, there was a small app called antishutdown which would block such attempts |
| 23:28:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | 3540 by something PNG |
| 23:29:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Included in the manual package. |
| 23:29:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: I'll have to look into that at some point. |
| 23:29:51 | markun | Bagder: I'll try not to loose it again |
| 23:29:56 | Bagder | no worries |
| 23:30:36 | markun | Hm, I only see ROCKBOX, not the rest |
| 23:31:44 | markun | ah, alpha channel problem |
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| 23:40:50 | imphasing_ | My rockbox bootloader didn't do anything.. |
| 23:40:51 | imphasing_ | =/ |
| 23:41:07 | sw13 | lol |
| 23:41:12 | sw13 | I at least GET a bootloader |
| 23:41:54 | imphasing_ | I've never built a bootloader for a 5G before though |
| 23:42:22 | sw13 | Then it sux on the loading rockbox. |
| 23:42:25 | Bagder | the 5g install procedure has some different step compared to the 4g |
| 23:42:33 | sw13 | I didn't have to, there's a precompiled bootloader :P |
| 23:42:40 | sw13 | Yeah, you have to get the broadcom chip firmware. |
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| 23:43:17 | imphasing_ | Bagder: I extracted the broadcom firmware, and the image is in the same dir |
| 23:43:19 | allix | so its good i did not buy a ipod |
| 23:43:20 | imphasing_ | so that should work fine |
| 23:43:27 | allix | its sounds like its not working on g5 |
| 23:43:37 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
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| 23:44:01 | Shadowarrior13 | It'll be extra leet when it DOES work though. |
| 23:44:32 | imphasing_ | Ok, bootlaoder is working |
| 23:44:37 | imphasing_ | time to extract the zip |
| 23:44:54 | Shadowarrior13 | If you get it, give me EVERYTHING YOU HAVE |
| 23:46:35 | imphasing_ | works fine |
| 23:46:37 | imphasing_ | and HOT DAMN |
| 23:46:44 | Shadowarrior13 | .....fuckign serious, you got it? |
| 23:46:57 | imphasing_ | yeah.. |
| 23:47:02 | Shadowarrior13 | Dude, gimme your bootloader/rockboot. |
| 23:47:04 | imphasing_ | OMFG |
| 23:47:08 | imphasing_ | HIGH FPS. |
| 23:47:13 | imphasing_ | Who got this figured out? |
| 23:47:15 | imphasing_ | And how? |
| 23:48:59 | Shadowarrior13 | Come over here... |
| 23:49:01 | Shadowarrior13 | :P |
| 23:49:05 | Mikachu | RotAtoR: hm, it still feels a bit slow, is it possibly to make it so that when more than one line falls, everything falls at once, instead of the next line waiting for the previous one? |
| 23:50:01 | Mikachu | RotAtoR: i also don't feel it makes sense to bind both direction clicks _and_ scrolling |
| 23:50:10 | Mikachu | RotAtoR: it just gives unwanted movements when you move your finger to another button |
| 23:50:15 | BHSPitLappy | imphasing_: what part of "42fps" didn't you understand before? :P |
| 23:50:19 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 23:50:26 | imphasing_ | I want to know HOW though |
| 23:50:36 | Shadowarrior13 | You know, I'd like to know HOW first. |
| 23:50:37 | imphasing_ | did someone figure out some ARC instructions? |
| 23:51:20 | Bagder | imphasing_: I figure linuxstb tested and found out this works, but you gotta ask him to get to know for real |
| 23:51:25 | imphasing_ | Ah, ok. |
| 23:51:29 | imphasing_ | It's sexy. |
| 23:51:30 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 23:51:36 | Bagder | the changes was very small as I guess you already noticed |
| 23:51:40 | Bagder | change |
| 23:51:46 | imphasing_ | yeah |
| 23:52:23 | Bagder | 42 fps on the 5g makes the data transfer to the lcd faster than what it is on the 4g if my calcs are right |
| 23:52:25 | * | Shadowarrior13 jumps off of roof |
| 23:52:52 | imphasing_ | Yeah, it seems like it. |
| 23:53:14 | petur | well it needs faster throughput if the display is larger... |
| 23:53:23 | Bagder | indeed |
| 23:53:43 | allix | i believe its based on ipodlinux |
| 23:53:54 | Bagder | not this, no |
| 23:53:56 | imphasing_ | It's going to be beautiful to be able to use rockbox for music, and retailos for movies. |
| 23:54:01 | * | imphasing_ sighs |
| 23:54:05 | imphasing_ | No more itunesdb.. |
| 23:54:10 | Shadowarrior13 | I hate you, imphasing. |
| 23:54:15 | imphasing_ | Dude.. |
| 23:54:19 | Shadowarrior13 | Pure loathing. |
| 23:54:19 | imphasing_ | I can send you my rockboot. |
| 23:54:22 | imphasing_ | and my zip. |
| 23:54:24 | Shadowarrior13 | Then I don't hate you. |
| 23:54:26 | imphasing_ | deal? |
| 23:54:27 | imphasing_ | ok. |
| 23:54:28 | imphasing_ | email? |
| 23:54:33 | Shadowarrior13 | shadowwarrior13@gmail.com |
| 23:54:40 | Shadowarrior13 | Don't forget the bootloader >.> |
| 23:55:01 | petur | I just found out that recording peak detection is only done on the last buffer in the callback - can somebody remember why this was done? proc load or just lazy? ;) |
| 23:55:02 | Shadowarrior13 | Or wait... |
| 23:55:06 | Shadowarrior13 | That was horribly stupid. |
| 23:55:13 | Shadowarrior13 | Forget I said that >.< |
| 23:55:59 | Bagder | petur: I would guess laziness, but if you check who did it you could try asking the person |
| 23:56:22 | * | petur thinks somebody is going to feel sorry when the spambots find the log of this channel :P |
| 23:56:34 | imphasing_ | sent. |
| 23:56:38 | imphasing_ | er.. |
| 23:56:38 | imphasing_ | sending |
| 23:57:01 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 23:57:10 | Shadowarrior13 | I was wondering why that took a second to upload :P |
| 23:57:18 | imphasing_ | heh. |
| 23:57:30 | Mikachu | new_wheel_value = ((status << 9) >> 25) & 0xff; |
| 23:57:36 | Mikachu | isn't that a bit redundant? |
| 23:57:42 | * | imphasing_ is transferring 9gb of music to his ipod |
| 23:57:45 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 23:58:58 | imphasing_ | Hope you have fast internet. |
| 23:58:59 | imphasing_ | :P |
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