| 00:01:36 | allix | i am sure shadow has a nice 14.4 modem |
| 00:01:52 | Shadowarrior13 | I have cox high speed, thank you very much :P |
| 00:01:55 | imphasing_ | Yay. |
| 00:01:59 | imphasing_ | These are pretty big. |
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| 00:02:05 | imphasing_ | damnit |
| 00:02:06 | imphasing_ | timout |
| 00:02:08 | Mikachu | where is the hold button handled for ipods? |
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| 00:02:15 | Mikachu | i couldn't find it in button.c, maybe i'm stupid |
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| 00:04:26 | youngcereal | no |
| 00:05:05 | youngcereal | is in system.c i think |
| 00:06:33 | imphasing_ | Gyah, this is taking forever.. |
| 00:06:44 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 00:06:49 | Mikachu | if it is, it's not handled by software |
| 00:07:49 | youngcereal | it is sekend i search |
| 00:08:02 | youngcereal | it is deklard as key |
| 00:08:06 | youngcereal | not as hold |
| 00:08:07 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 00:08:23 | Mikachu | it's not handled with the other buttons |
| 00:08:38 | BHSPitLappy | I don't think it can be overridden |
| 00:08:42 | imphasing_ | gmail won't send the rockboot, so I'm just sending you my bootloader.bin, and the rockbox.bin |
| 00:08:53 | BHSPitLappy | but the software can see when it's turned on and off |
| 00:09:05 | Shadowarrior13 | Alrighty then... |
| 00:09:09 | Shadowarrior13 | Wait, rockbox.bin? |
| 00:09:15 | youngcereal | no |
| 00:09:24 | Mikachu | i don't want to override it, i just want an event when it's turned on and/or off |
| 00:09:34 | youngcereal | BHSPitLappy: on my g4 not see it |
| 00:09:54 | youngcereal | Mikachu : moment |
| 00:10:08 | BHSPitLappy | kind of like iDoom? |
| 00:12:43 | imphasing_ | that's just the bootloader binary |
| 00:12:48 | imphasing_ | you have to extract your firmware |
| 00:12:54 | imphasing_ | and combine them |
| 00:13:20 | Shadowarrior13 | Yeah, but I wasn't aware there was a roxkbox.bin. |
| 00:13:31 | Shadowarrior13 | There's a .zip, and a rockboot, but no rockbox.bin. |
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| 00:14:03 | imphasing_ | ... |
| 00:14:13 | Shadowarrior13 | XD |
| 00:14:29 | Shadowarrior13 | As well as a bootloader. |
| 00:14:30 | imphasing_ | there's a bootloader.bin, and a rockbox.zip |
| 00:14:47 | imphasing_ | and you have to combine the bootloader with your firmware |
| 00:14:49 | Shadowarrior13 | Yeah, and you said "rockbox.bin" |
| 00:14:52 | Shadowarrior13 | And confused me |
| 00:14:59 | imphasing_ | ah. |
| 00:15:02 | imphasing_ | Stupid fingers. |
| 00:15:07 | imphasing_ | I've never even seen them fing.. |
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| 00:15:49 | youngcereal | i have it |
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| 00:16:14 | youngcereal | Mikachu : only in bootloader |
| 00:16:15 | youngcereal | main |
| 00:16:19 | youngcereal | and ipod.c |
| 00:16:34 | Mikachu | okay |
| 00:17:27 | youngcereal | noprob |
| 00:17:56 | Shadowarrior13 | .c |
| 00:17:58 | Shadowarrior13 | >.> |
| 00:19:01 | BHSPitLappy | imphasing_: oh, wait, there they go |
| 00:19:56 | Mikachu | RotAtoR: feature idea; name entry for high scores? |
| 00:21:01 | imphasing_ | BHSPitLappy: Er, what? |
| 00:21:01 | imphasing_ | =/ |
| 00:21:12 | BHSPitLappy | RE "finging" |
| 00:21:21 | imphasing_ | Ah, yes. |
| 00:21:22 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 00:22:36 | youngcereal | if any for serial remote connact on ipod implement at moment ?? |
| 00:23:12 | Mikachu | youngcereal: ah, only for 3g, not 4g |
| 00:23:57 | youngcereal | Mikachu: on 3g it works ?? |
| 00:24:35 | Shadowarrior13 | How's it coming, imphasing? |
| 00:24:51 | Mikachu | youngcereal: i don't know, but ipod.c only handles the hold button for 3g. i only have a nano |
| 00:25:41 | youngcereal | Mikachu: its the same on 3g 4g the hold |
| 00:25:47 | Mikachu | no |
| 00:25:56 | youngcereal | not |
| 00:26:14 | Mikachu | at least, not in the code |
| 00:26:33 | youngcereal | yes |
| 00:26:37 | youngcereal | sorry |
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| 00:28:11 | Shadowarrior13 | Imphasing: I don't know what you were talking about, rockboot.bin sent. |
| 00:28:16 | youngcereal | Mikachu: i look to find it 5 min |
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| 00:32:46 | imphasing_ | How do you get rockbox to boot the retailos? |
| 00:32:47 | imphasing_ | =/ |
| 00:33:03 | Shadowarrior13 | Reboot and hold menu. |
| 00:33:09 | Shadowarrior13 | Takes a few times to get right. |
| 00:33:13 | Sacro | hold down record and play |
| 00:33:17 | NicoFR | RotAtoR: very nice bejeweled :D |
| 00:33:51 | Shadowarrior13 | WHAT THE HELLFUCK |
| 00:33:56 | Shadowarrior13 | AAAAAAAAGH |
| 00:34:07 | Shadowarrior13 | Alright, there's something wrong with my ipod. |
| 00:34:31 | NicoFR | Shadowarrior13: what happened ? |
| 00:34:35 | imphasing_ | :( |
| 00:34:50 | Shadowarrior13 | SAME EXACT THING |
| 00:35:29 | linuxstb_ | Shadowarrior13: I'll build you a rockbox.zip now with the usb check disabled - it's obviously mis-detecting USB. |
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| 00:35:40 | Shadowarrior13 | Thanks >.< |
| 00:36:02 | Shadowarrior13 | I seriously don't even need USB for that, I'll just use diskmode. |
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| 00:38:37 | midkay | linuxstb, awesome 5G LCD updates.. it's getting there! :) |
| 00:38:55 | imphasing_ | Heh, the menus slow down a bit when it's playing music |
| 00:38:56 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 00:39:17 | Sacro | ive just been to my mates, and i couldnt mount my mp3 player with latest firmware |
| 00:40:15 | linuxstb | Shadowarrior13: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-5gnousb.zip |
| 00:40:24 | Shadowarrior13 | I love you. |
| 00:40:26 | linuxstb | Don't worry about your bootloader, I'm sure it's fine. |
| 00:40:39 | linuxstb | You haven't tested it yet... |
| 00:40:40 | allix | does it work shadow? |
| 00:40:55 | Shadowarrior13 | I JUST got it :P |
| 00:41:07 | allix | ok |
| 00:41:27 | linuxstb | Shadowarrior13: Did you say you have a 60GB 5g? |
| 00:43:30 | Shadowarrior13 | Yeah. |
| 00:43:44 | linuxstb | RotAtoR: I'm playing bejewelled on the 5g now - very nice improvements. |
| 00:44:16 | NicoFR | indeed |
| 00:44:21 | * | NicoFR is playing on h300 |
| 00:44:35 | imphasing_ | Does rockbox drain the battery faster than retailos? |
| 00:44:48 | imphasing_ | linuxstb: Congrats on the 5G stuff. |
| 00:44:55 | imphasing_ | I just bought a 5G, and it's niiiice |
| 00:45:20 | Shadowarrior13 | Yeah, the f ile is still extracting. |
| 00:45:40 | linuxstb | Thanks. And yes, Rockbox does have worse battery life than retailos. |
| 00:45:52 | imphasing_ | Is it dramatically worse? |
| 00:46:00 | * | imphasing_ is trying to find a good looking font |
| 00:46:19 | imphasing_ | tinyprop-5 is a bit small |
| 00:46:20 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 00:46:28 | Bagder | haha |
| 00:46:34 | Bagder | many lines! ;-) |
| 00:46:44 | vca | crashy car! ;) |
| 00:46:49 | Shadowarrior13 | OH MY GOD IT WORKS I THINK I LOVE YOU LINUXSTB |
| 00:46:49 | imphasing_ | unifont is nice.. |
| 00:46:58 | Mikachu | Shadowarrior13: hooray congratulations |
| 00:47:28 | markun | imphasing_: you could try helvR12 |
| 00:47:41 | NicoFR | or nimbus-12 or 14 |
| 00:47:44 | markun | Probably still on the small side |
| 00:48:43 | youngcereal | Mikachu: all i find 4g ware the same to 3g |
| 00:48:54 | Shadowarrior13 | Woooa cubey |
| 00:49:04 | youngcereal | Mikachu: Nano standart codes other then 4g ?? |
| 00:49:17 | imphasing_ | Heh, it still says "iRiver RockBox" When I play audio |
| 00:49:17 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 00:52:59 | Mikachu | youngcereal: it should be same as the 4g, but 4g in rockbox doesn't have code for handling the hold button |
| 00:53:51 | youngcereal | Mikachu: i look to doo this i work at the moment on remote for 4g that ist near ;) |
| 00:55:09 | linuxstb | LCD now up to 52fps... |
| 00:55:16 | imphasing_ | Nice! |
| 00:55:26 | Shadowarrior13 | Leetsoup |
| 00:55:27 | imphasing_ | Did you figure out some of the chips instructions? |
| 00:55:53 | linuxstb | No, I've just been experimenting with the existing driver. |
| 00:55:58 | imphasing_ | Ah. |
| 00:56:09 | imphasing_ | So the broadcom chip isn't actually being used yet? |
| 00:56:29 | Shadowarrior13 | And I'm not getting choppy playback. |
| 00:56:34 | linuxstb | I've no idea what's going on. I'm just changing things... |
| 00:56:39 | imphasing_ | haha |
| 00:56:55 | linuxstb | Shadowarrior13: Yes, my LCD fixes today have fixed audio playback - ogg -q 10 works fine for me. |
| 00:57:22 | Shadowarrior13 | :) |
| 00:57:59 | RotAtoR | linuxstb: good, thanks :) |
| 00:58:05 | allix | thats cool |
| 00:58:16 | allix | if only i did not order a iaudio |
| 00:58:34 | midkay | linuxstb, awesome.. congrats.. it's been doubled in one day! :) did you check in the 52fps code? |
| 00:58:46 | linuxstb | No, I'm still doing more tests. |
| 00:59:07 | midkay | k, keep at it :) kickass work |
| 00:59:15 | Shadowarrior13 | omgz bejewelled |
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| 01:00:48 | midkay | linuxstb, do you have any idea what sort of FPS you'd want to have it running very nicely (for example, at the speed of the nanos)? what do you expect is the highest you could reasonably get it? |
| 01:03:07 | linuxstb | How does 107fps sound? |
| 01:03:25 | imphasing_ | :) |
| 01:03:32 | Bagder | sounds like a typo ;-) |
| 01:03:33 | Shadowarrior13 | Crazy |
| 01:03:34 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 01:03:39 | allix | is it me or something but all the files are for windows users? |
| 01:03:55 | linuxstb | It seems that the 14ms delay in the audio driver wasn't needed. I just removed it, and it still works perfectly. |
| 01:04:00 | linuxstb | s/audio/video/ |
| 01:04:11 | Bagder | allix: what "all the files" are you talking about? |
| 01:04:24 | allix | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation#Step_1_Install_the_bootloader |
| 01:05:00 | allix | i don;t have windwos |
| 01:05:03 | imphasing_ | linuxstb: If I re-build rockbox, do I need to rebuild the bootloader too, or can I just unzip my zip file again? |
| 01:05:04 | midkay | linuxstb, is 107 a guess/target, or...? :) |
| 01:05:19 | linuxstb | It's what I've just achieved. |
| 01:05:23 | imphasing_ | :D] |
| 01:05:25 | midkay | you're kidding. |
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| 01:05:46 | midkay | *faints* |
| 01:05:47 | linuxstb | No - 107fps for a full-screen update, and 427fps for a 1/4 screen update. |
| 01:05:54 | imphasing_ | : |
| 01:05:54 | imphasing_ | D |
| 01:05:55 | Shadowarrior13 | ...... |
| 01:05:57 | imphasing_ | er.. |
| 01:05:57 | markun | any wiki admins here? |
| 01:06:02 | imphasing_ | Commit! |
| 01:06:04 | linuxstb | As a comparison, my 4G Color only manages about 72fps |
| 01:06:05 | imphasing_ | :) |
| 01:06:07 | Shadowarrior13 | You are fucking nuts, linuxstb. |
| 01:06:09 | midkay | i'm jumping up and down now. |
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| 01:08:06 | markun | Bagder: there's a guy in the wiki registered a SiriusA, can you change it to AlexWinter ? |
| 01:08:42 | Bagder | sure |
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| 01:09:52 | Bagder | markun: done |
| 01:10:04 | markun | should I email him about the change? |
| 01:10:22 | * | imphasing_ snickers |
| 01:10:24 | Bagder | I guess it would be good |
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| 01:11:39 | markun | Bagder: good night |
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| 01:12:07 | linuxstb | If anyone wants to test - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-5g.zip |
| 01:12:11 | imphasing_ | yes |
| 01:12:12 | imphasing_ | :D |
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| 01:13:20 | linuxstb | There are two plugins you can try - "starfield" is modified to display a fps (33fps - it has calculations and screen drawing to do), and "test_fps" which just does updates of the LCD without changing what is drawn. |
| 01:14:22 | imphasing_ | ok |
| 01:14:26 | linuxstb | Ah, seems I might have spoken a little soon.... |
| 01:15:01 | imphasing_ | getting 107.0 on test_fps |
| 01:15:20 | imphasing_ | Wow, starfield looks nice! |
| 01:15:41 | imphasing_ | Won't go over 32fps though |
| 01:15:55 | imphasing_ | Or below though |
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| 01:19:59 | imphasing_ | The LCD seems to get faster if you turn the wheel.. |
| 01:20:00 | imphasing_ | =/ |
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| 01:20:36 | gantrixx | Does anyone else have the iAudio X5? |
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| 01:21:43 | linuxstb | Maybe I did speak to soon - the lcd updates don't seem to be 100% reliable... |
| 01:21:48 | imphasing_ | hmm.. |
| 01:21:56 | imphasing_ | It is faster than it was though |
| 01:23:22 | linuxstb | Yes, it is. But the LCD isn't always being updated correctly - it seems to miss updates sometimes. But that's probably only when they are done in very quick succession (such as in test_fps), so maybe it won't be a problem. |
| 01:24:01 | imphasing_ | It might be a good idea to limit how many frames it can show per second, and pause for a couple ms if it's going over, say, 50 fps. |
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| 01:24:20 | imphasing_ | That would make it so it wouldn't suck up all it could just to get 200fps as well |
| 01:24:27 | imphasing_ | and give it some power to do other things |
| 01:27:18 | NicoFR | linuxstb: would it be possible to have the sources to the test_fps and the fps-modified starfield plugins ? |
| 01:28:26 | linuxstb | I'll think I leave that 14ms delay in the code for now, but commit the change that brings the speed up to 52fps. |
| 01:28:45 | imphasing_ | cool |
| 01:28:46 | linuxstb | NicoFR: The patch for starfield is already on my server - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/starfield_fps.diff |
| 01:29:29 | NicoFR | thanks |
| 01:30:16 | linuxstb | The test_fps plugin is here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/test_fps.c |
| 01:30:36 | midkay | linuxstb, do you know what FPS the nanos run, about? |
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| 01:33:39 | linuxstb | No idea. |
| 01:33:50 | midkay | trying out your 107fps build. _awesome_. |
| 01:33:54 | linuxstb | But probably very fast - the lcd is tiny. |
| 01:34:22 | midkay | yeah, hm. |
| 01:36:34 | midkay | linuxstb, the 107fps build is incredibly nice.. but it does seem a bit glitchy. mandelbrot draws weirdly, for one. |
| 01:37:45 | midkay | yeah, quite a few things seem pretty weird. bejeweled's little cursor boundingbox doesn't draw.. calculator doesn't display its keys until you roll over them - and then they appear garbled.. |
| 01:38:15 | linuxstb | Yes, that's what I noticed. |
| 01:38:35 | midkay | oh, alright.. i guess that's a by-product of some "optimizations"? :) |
| 01:38:36 | linuxstb | So it seems 52fps will have to do for now. |
| 01:38:49 | hyarion | huh? 52fps on... ipod video? |
| 01:38:53 | hyarion | or what? |
| 01:39:08 | linuxstb | Yes - 52fps on my 5g. |
| 01:39:16 | hyarion | nice :D |
| 01:39:29 | allix | what formats can it play? |
| 01:39:37 | linuxstb | I did get 107fps, but it's a bit unstable.... |
| 01:39:50 | midkay | a shame, 107 was delicious. well, i'll try the 52 version and hopefully it's still great. :) in any case it's awesome work on your part |
| 01:40:32 | hyarion | linuxstb: may I see some code? :D |
| 01:41:10 | linuxstb | Sure, my changes are already mostly in CVS, I'm about to commit some more. I'll give you a URL then. |
| 01:41:11 | * | hyarion wants to put it into iDoom |
| 01:41:28 | linuxstb | It should work nicely in Doom |
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| 01:53:08 | linuxstb | hyarion: You can view the file in CVS here: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/drivers/lcd-ipodvideo.c |
| 01:53:38 | hyarion | thanks :) |
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| 02:11:46 | webguest91 | is the sound on the 5G supposed to be mono? |
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| 02:12:25 | midkay | webguest91, i don't believe so.. |
| 02:12:45 | webguest91 | it is on mine, and the sound is distorted |
| 02:12:59 | midkay | check sound settings -> channels.. |
| 02:13:18 | webguest91 | i tried that, it made no difference |
| 02:13:49 | Kensir | Will this work on the iPod: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagDatabase |
| 02:14:00 | midkay | perhaps try reinstalling or something, if the ipod firmware plays audio fine.. mp3's i hope |
| 02:14:36 | midkay | Kensir, i've been meaning to try that.. not sure. |
| 02:14:52 | Kensir | o well |
| 02:14:55 | Kensir | i guess im about to find out... |
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| 02:15:18 | midkay | let me know how it goes |
| 02:15:44 | Kensir | alright |
| 02:15:52 | Kensir | i stay on until this blows up in my face |
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| 02:19:38 | midkay | haha |
| 02:20:17 | imphasing_ | My sound is stereo on my 5G |
| 02:20:22 | imphasing_ | but I built from CVS |
| 02:20:40 | midkay | ah.. webguest91, how old is your build? |
| 02:21:04 | webguest91 | I tried the daily and the latest bleeding edge one |
| 02:22:21 | midkay | hmm |
| 02:22:32 | midkay | weird, mine sounds fine + clear.. |
| 02:23:24 | Kensir | eh |
| 02:23:34 | Kensir | i dont feel like doing this ID3 database today |
| 02:23:36 | Kensir | so im not |
| 02:23:54 | Kensir | perhaps tomorrow i'll be more willing...but I have a bad feeling |
| 02:23:58 | Kensir | o well |
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| 02:30:01 | webguest91 | i tried a re-install, and it didnt work |
| 02:30:26 | linuxstb | Do you have a 30GB or 60GB 5g? |
| 02:30:42 | webguest91 | 30GB |
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| 02:31:36 | linuxstb | I assume you've tried lots of different files? |
| 02:31:54 | webguest91 | yeah, i tried |
| 02:32:03 | webguest91 | MP3s flacs oggs, mpcs |
| 02:32:12 | webguest91 | all sounded teh same |
| 02:33:49 | linuxstb | And presumably sound works fine in the Apple firmware? |
| 02:34:12 | webguest91 | yeah the apple firmwares fine |
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| 02:34:45 | linuxstb | Are you the person that posted this problem on the forum as well? |
| 02:35:05 | webguest91 | no |
| 02:35:38 | linuxstb | You're not alone then: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2655.0 |
| 02:37:07 | linuxstb | Out of curiosity, when did you buy your ipod? |
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| 02:37:38 | webguest91 | a few weeks after they came out |
| 02:38:24 | linuxstb | OK, that may explain it then. I think everyone else who's tried has bought them more recently. Mine was bought just before Christmas. |
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| 02:44:28 | webguest91 | would the version of the apple firmware make a difference? |
| 02:45:59 | Cassandra | linuxstb, my 5g 60gb is on the way, although I'm still uncertain whether I paid for express shipping or not, so it could be here Monday or a week on Monday. |
| 02:46:40 | * | Cassandra has also bought a smattering of accessories (FM radio, remote, iTrip) with the intention of making them work with Rockbox. |
| 02:47:12 | linuxstb | webguest91: I don't think so. Have you upgraded it recently? |
| 02:47:25 | linuxstb | Cassandra: Nice. You'll be pleased with today's developments then. |
| 02:47:58 | webguest91 | no I switched it back to the original firmware to fix a couple of video problems |
| 02:48:00 | Cassandra | The LCD? |
| 02:48:17 | Cassandra | That's a darn fast screen. |
| 02:48:19 | linuxstb | Yes - but it's mainly the fact that audio is as good as the other ipods now. |
| 02:48:30 | Cassandra | Oh, kewl. What was up with it? |
| 02:49:54 | linuxstb | The main problem was the 14ms delay at the end of every lcd_update(). Adding a yield() there meant that Rockbox could continue decoding audio during that time. |
| 02:50:22 | linuxstb | The other changes were just optimisations - experimenting with making the lcd driver doing less, and see what still worked. |
| 02:52:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: There's someone on the forums who seems to be having problems getting iPodpatcher to see his ipod. One of the messages he got is relating to "locking disk"? |
| 02:52:55 | linuxstb | webguest91: I've got no suggestions at the moment about your audio problem. Maybe next time I look at the audio driver I'll have some ideas. |
| 02:54:05 | webguest91 | alright, thanks |
| 02:54:18 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I can't keep up with the forum - too many people own ipods... :) |
| 02:55:14 | linuxstb | Seems he has just fixed his own problem.... |
| 02:55:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 02:55:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Interesting |
| 02:55:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've been trying to help people where I could on there, since there's a lot of general "How do I install" style questions. |
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| 02:55:56 | linuxstb | Maybe he had a program (e.g. explorer) open which was using the F: driver. |
| 02:56:08 | linuxstb | s/driver/drive/ |
| 02:56:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
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| 02:58:37 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Any H340 rockbox devs on? |
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| 03:00:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | DJ_Dooms_Day: I'm not one, but out of curiosity, whatcha need one for? |
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| 03:02:05 | bandgeekndb | has anyone had trouble with files sounding distorted using a recent daily build (last day or two)? |
| 03:02:23 | bandgeekndb | I'm using 192kb/s VBR files ripped with EAC |
| 03:02:30 | bandgeekndb | Shure e2c earphones |
| 03:02:39 | bandgeekndb | using previous builds, the sound quality has been awesome |
| 03:03:05 | midkay | bandgeekndb, hm, someone just asked that.. |
| 03:03:10 | bandgeekndb | yesterday and today though, it seemed to sound better w/ the stock iriver f/w (very disconcerting, considering the high quality of rockbox) |
| 03:03:14 | midkay | i haven't had such a problem.. |
| 03:03:18 | bandgeekndb | i checked my settings |
| 03:03:23 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Paul - Just wondering whether the lag i recieve from scrolling down lists is a problem on my end or whether its something that still needs to be optimised |
| 03:03:27 | bandgeekndb | no eq, no replaygain |
| 03:03:34 | bandgeekndb | no crossfeed |
| 03:03:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | DJ_Dooms_Day: I've heard that mentioned related to H300s before, so I think it's a more global h300 thing |
| 03:04:16 | bandgeekndb | just flat files, or so I believe - happens with any kind of music, but especially in louder sections |
| 03:04:20 | DJ_Dooms_Day | ah |
| 03:04:34 | bandgeekndb | haven't had a chance to try with different speakers and such, just my earphones |
| 03:04:45 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Band - You didn't kill your headphones by any chance did you? |
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| 03:05:23 | bandgeekndb | i highly doubt it |
| 03:05:36 | bandgeekndb | i can try it later tonight with another source |
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| 03:05:49 | bandgeekndb | infact, i'll try it out now |
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| 03:06:26 | DJ_Dooms_Day | I've also noticed that if you plug something into 'line out' it reduces the quality of audio a damn lot |
| 03:07:41 | bandgeekndb | not using line out, although i wonder about that too |
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| 03:09:59 | bandgeekndb | headphones don't seem to be bad |
| 03:11:39 | bandgeekndb | and now, using the same track i was listening to earlier today, the track sounds great |
| 03:11:51 | bandgeekndb | sounds no different from my CD player |
| 03:12:08 | bandgeekndb | my ears must be revolting - not enough cleaning or something crazy |
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| 03:12:30 | bandgeekndb | while i'm here though, what is the purpose of replaygain - it never makes a difference for me? |
| 03:13:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | You have to scan your tracks in advance with an external program |
| 03:13:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are many of them. Foobar2000 is popular among windows users. |
| 03:13:45 | bandgeekndb | what does replaygain end up doing - gain boost during playback? |
| 03:14:05 | bandgeekndb | or, instead of bothering you guys, is there a place i can read up? |
| 03:14:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's somewhat like normalizing a track, but will instead try to bring the apparently loudness of the track to 89db. It will create tags on the file telling the player how far to adjust that track |
| 03:14:40 | imphasing_ | What db level does rockbox start playing at? |
| 03:14:41 | bandgeekndb | ah, letting rockbox and the player do the work |
| 03:14:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | It creates an individual value per track, and an overall album value, so that if you listen using album settings tracks will seem louder and quieter relative to each other. |
| 03:14:50 | imphasing_ | Before the volume gets decreased |
| 03:15:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | imphasing_: Depends on the file, doesn't it? |
| 03:15:33 | imphasing_ | rockbox doesn't start out with say, 75db, and the volume level gets adjusted from there? |
| 03:15:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | bandgeekndb: Well, the scanning is the harder work, the gain value is just adjusted like the preamp, except it's read from a tag. |
| 03:15:53 | bandgeekndb | well, thank you very much - i'm going to clean my ears and my earphones, see if I'm just going crazy from lack of sleep |
| 03:16:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | imphasing_: I don't really know that much about it, but 0db adjustment on all players is "line level" which means the file should be playing at whatever level it's recorded to be at. Some players will let you go up from there even, to as much as +12 on some archoses. My understanding of this *may* be incorrect though. |
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| 03:17:12 | imphasing_ | Ah, ok. |
| 03:17:29 | imphasing_ | so it adjusts from the file level, it doesn't adjust the level to be exactly some set level. |
| 03:17:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, if I understand correctly. |
| 03:17:47 | imphasing_ | -20db would be 20db minus the recording level I would guess.. |
| 03:18:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | The recording level minus 20db, yes. |
| 03:18:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I understand correctly |
| 03:20:06 | imphasing_ | Alrighty. |
| 03:20:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's nice knowing that I listen at -35 on any player Rockbox supports. I like a unified scale. :) |
| 03:28:48 | imphasing_ | haha |
| 03:28:49 | imphasing_ | cool |
| 03:29:12 | imphasing_ | I'm trying to get gtkpod to compile so I can watch my indie cartoons on my ipod.. |
| 03:29:16 | imphasing_ | To no avail though. |
| 03:31:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 03:32:24 | imphasing_ | Getting gtk+2 linker errors. |
| 03:32:25 | imphasing_ | :( |
| 03:35:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ick |
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| 04:21:13 | * | Cassandra books for Devcon. |
| 04:21:19 | Cassandra | Should be fun. |
| 04:24:11 | gantrixx | does anyone here have the iAudio X5? |
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| 04:26:49 | * | midgey34 yells at java |
| 04:27:14 | midgey34 | the file is there dangit... |
| 04:27:58 | midgey34 | gantrixx: my bro has one, what do you want to know |
| 04:28:42 | gantrixx | midgey34, is the connector at the bottom the same as the ipod? |
| 04:28:48 | gantrixx | are they compatible? |
| 04:29:33 | midgey34 | no, they differ |
| 04:29:39 | gantrixx | it's a nice little device, but you can't plug the power cord into it directly without an adapter piece. who was the genius behind that? |
| 04:30:08 | dpassen1 | And the USB 1.1 OTG port is on the main body of the player, but the 2.0 port for transfer is on the sub pack |
| 04:30:14 | midgey34 | guess they were going for a small formfactor, honestly it bugs me to no ends |
| 04:30:28 | gantrixx | ditto |
| 04:30:45 | midgey34 | that and the screen are all my brother ever grumbles about |
| 04:31:01 | gantrixx | I know, so I have to haul this sub pack around with me everywhere if I want to put a song on it or charge it |
| 04:31:46 | gantrixx | and what is the port just under the headphone jack? |
| 04:32:02 | gantrixx | and I can't find any place to buy a spare sub pack |
| 04:32:42 | gantrixx | it has 2 ports that you won't use 99% of the time and the ones that you use 100% of the time are only available through the sub pack |
| 04:33:23 | gantrixx | it's better than my MPIO HD300, but still not as good as the ipod −− but the ipod won't do ogg |
| 04:33:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | You are aware that Rockbox allows the iPod to play Ogg, no? |
| 04:34:33 | gantrixx | last I checked it wasn't availble for the 5g ipods |
| 04:34:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Must've been a couple days ago then |
| 04:35:37 | gantrixx | I see it is available now |
| 04:35:42 | gantrixx | after I already bought this thing |
| 04:35:44 | midgey34 | linuxstb's new optimization's allow most audio to run full speed on the 5g |
| 04:36:21 | gantrixx | linuxstbs? |
| 04:36:30 | midgey34 | the lcd updates were bogging down the player, causing it to not be able to decode audio at sped |
| 04:36:42 | midgey34 | linuxstb - one of the ipod developers |
| 04:37:01 | midgey34 | he has an ipod color and ipod video |
| 04:37:02 | gantrixx | well, maybe I'll get an ipod then |
| 04:37:08 | midgey34 | preglow has an ipod nano |
| 04:37:37 | gantrixx | will it do a color screen too? |
| 04:37:49 | imphasing_ | yes |
| 04:37:52 | imphasing_ | It looks nice |
| 04:37:58 | gantrixx | any screen shots of it? |
| 04:38:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, first question is "will it do a color screen." |
| 04:38:13 | imphasing_ | Er...never got around to it. |
| 04:38:21 | imphasing_ | It looks like the newest hawtness though |
| 04:38:22 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 04:38:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | gantrixx: There's not much to take screen shots of, since the interface itself is text based. The WPS screen is customizable but nobody's really made any 5G themes for it yet. |
| 04:38:39 | gantrixx | first question is "will it do ogg and normal speed" |
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| 04:39:32 | midgey34 | linuxstb mentioned being able to decode ogg -q 10 earlier |
| 04:39:43 | midgey34 | on his 5g |
| 04:40:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | I know ogg q8 with replaygain enabled works almost perfectly on the Nano |
| 04:47:22 | jaebird | Does anyone know the scale of ogg q8 compared with vorbisenc quality=0.65? |
| 04:47:34 | jaebird | i've looked everywhere |
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| 04:49:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's the maximum on that, 1.0? |
| 04:49:29 | ashridah | that reminds me. has anyone considered adding rockbox to CIA ? |
| 04:49:37 | * | Paul_The_Nerd thinks that vorbisenc quality=0.65 is the same as q6.5 but isn't sure. |
| 04:49:43 | jaebird | I believe so... min is -0.1 |
| 04:49:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | CIA? |
| 04:49:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 04:49:54 | ashridah | http://cia.navi.cx |
| 04:50:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then =0.65 should be the same as Q6.5 |
| 04:50:20 | ashridah | activity stats tracking for opensource projects. |
| 04:50:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oooh, neat. |
| 04:51:06 | ashridah | can even provide an irc bot to tell the channel whenever a commit occurs |
| 04:51:07 | jaebird | wierd...why would they do that...i'm used to the q6 or q8 numbers, but gstreamers vorbisenc plugin is 0.xx |
| 04:52:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I really don't know, but I've seen 3 listed as 0.3 elsewhere too, so I'm thinking maybe there was a scale switch at some point in time? |
| 04:52:13 | jaebird | Whats the latest of the 4g grayscale? I noticed a lot of hulabaloo around the 5g today!! |
| 04:52:45 | jaebird | it is working good for me except a few LCD glitches still. |
| 04:56:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did you say the LCD glitches occur in the sim as well, or just on the target? |
| 04:57:44 | jaebird | the LCD things I observe are on both the Sim and Target. |
| 04:58:10 | jaebird | however there is another glitch that has to do with powering off...sometimes there is a horizontal line that stays on |
| 04:58:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Odd |
| 04:58:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, the latter just has to do with the fact that the LCD isn't cleared before it's powered off, possibly. |
| 04:58:58 | jaebird | and when I first boot up the line stays visible for a few minutes before finally fading away |
| 04:59:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, that is odd. |
| 04:59:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there anything you can do that forces it to go away, by chance? |
| 04:59:52 | jaebird | at first I thought it was a damaged screen, but the line appears in different places and they all eventually go away...AND it doesn't happen everytime :) |
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| 05:00:20 | jaebird | and only if it has been off for a little while...if i reboot right away it never happens. |
| 05:00:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Strange |
| 05:01:12 | jaebird | i love rockbox, even with my weird ui issues...haven't had time to look at them, too busy listening to music :) |
| 05:03:15 | jaebird | i was kinda curious how many 4g grayscale people are out there...i know we are a dying breed, especially with the 5g 52 fps stuff |
| 05:04:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh. Dunno, I only have a Nano |
| 05:04:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | And my iHP-120 |
| 05:05:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, that is pretty glitchy looking |
| 05:05:20 | jaebird | got my wife a samsung yepp for xmas because it was a small flash player that played ogg |
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| 05:05:32 | jaebird | don't suppose rockbox will port to it :) |
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| 05:06:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 05:06:51 | ashridah | jaebird: not without some specs, a few sacrifices of hardware and some effort. |
| 05:07:01 | jaebird | the crazy thing is that it is a 1 gb for 150...now there is a 1gb nano for 150. too bad christmas isn't in feb! |
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| 05:13:34 | midgey34 | Any Java guys know whats wrong with this... |
| 05:13:34 | midgey34 | Account.java: public abstract class Account |
| 05:13:34 | midgey34 | CheckingAccount.java: public class CheckingAccount extends Account |
| 05:13:52 | midgey34 | Account.java compiles correctly, but CheckingAccount can't find Account |
| 05:18:06 | jaebird | nope..no java here |
| 05:18:46 | * | Cassandra marvels at the speed of the 5g LCD. |
| 05:18:59 | Cassandra | Rockbox is going to look damn slick on that. |
| 05:19:05 | * | BHSPitLappy wants to see! |
| 05:19:10 | BHSPitLappy | "going to"? |
| 05:19:17 | BHSPitLappy | ...'does'? |
| 05:19:27 | Cassandra | Probably. But my 5g is in transit. ;) |
| 05:19:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: The Nano gets 80fps according to Preglow. ;-) |
| 05:19:57 | aegray | Cassandra: how is it? |
| 05:20:01 | aegray | oh nm |
| 05:21:08 | Cassandra | Paul - cool. |
| 05:21:17 | Cassandra | I'll just update my Nano to bleeding edge. |
| 05:21:37 | jaebird | where is the shutdown code at? |
| 05:32:17 | godzirra | Any word on ipod video? :) |
| 05:32:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | "Audio works" |
| 05:32:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, I guess that's two |
| 05:33:10 | imphasing_ | godzirra: 52fps on the lcd |
| 05:33:12 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 05:33:20 | imphasing_ | Actually, 107, but it's sketchy |
| 05:33:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | 107? |
| 05:33:37 | imphasing_ | yaeh |
| 05:33:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Howsat? |
| 05:33:51 | imphasing_ | That's what the latest linuxstb gave me, but it's not perfect. |
| 05:34:03 | imphasing_ | He's been fiddling with the driver. |
| 05:34:08 | Cassandra | Doesn't seem to have fixed the banding problem I'm having with 32bit images. |
| 05:34:16 | imphasing_ | =/ |
| 05:34:18 | Cassandra | (Not that I expected it to, mind.) |
| 05:34:22 | Cassandra | 24 bit. |
| 05:34:32 | imphasing_ | I haven't tested anything with it really, just a fps monitor. |
| 05:34:40 | imphasing_ | It palys mp3s though, which is better than retailos. |
| 05:34:44 | Cassandra | I wish I could figure out a way to get the GIMP to generate using a 16 bit pallette. |
| 05:34:45 | imphasing_ | s/palys/plays/ |
| 05:34:54 | imphasing_ | I'm sure there's a way.. |
| 05:34:58 | imphasing_ | I just don't know it. |
| 05:34:58 | imphasing_ | =/ |
| 05:35:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | What conditions are these 107fps under? |
| 05:35:21 | Cassandra | Maybe. Gimp seems to be 8 bit or 24 bit and nothing in between though. |
| 05:35:24 | imphasing_ | "fps_test" |
| 05:35:33 | imphasing_ | It's just a plugin that monitors fps |
| 05:35:35 | imphasing_ | with no real load |
| 05:35:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 05:35:53 | * | Cassandra doesn't really see the point. I mean humans can't see more than 30fps anyway. |
| 05:35:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I know last time I saw FPS talked about they were talking about a patched Starfield |
| 05:36:13 | imphasing_ | I get 33fps on starfield |
| 05:36:25 | JdGordon | Cassandra: thats not really true.. |
| 05:36:46 | imphasing_ | I can still see a flicker on a 60hz monitor, which is the same as 60fps |
| 05:36:49 | JdGordon | but a dap doesnt really need huge fps anyway |
| 05:36:56 | imphasing_ | it takes about 80hz before I'm satisfied |
| 05:36:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | imphasing_: Out of curiosity, if you change the speed to 0, and the stars off, how fast? |
| 05:37:04 | Cassandra | How'd you get starfield to show you FPS? |
| 05:37:08 | imphasing_ | Paul_The_Nerd: Still 33fps./ |
| 05:37:09 | imphasing_ | :D |
| 05:37:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: There's a patch for it. |
| 05:37:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | imphasing_: Nano is 112 on it like that. |
| 05:37:22 | imphasing_ | Dayum.. |
| 05:37:43 | imphasing_ | Of course, the nano LCD isn't being emulated through a processor that isn't supposed to be doing that. |
| 05:37:43 | imphasing_ | :P |
| 05:38:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | True |
| 05:38:03 | Cassandra | imphasing_, that's an entirely different phenomenon. The fact is 30fps will look perfectly smooth to the human eye. |
| 05:38:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm sure that once things are running properly the 5g will be showing some pretty high numbers. |
| 05:38:22 | Cassandra | (Flicker was also a CRT problem.) |
| 05:38:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: 30 fps will look smooth, but if you compare it to say, 75fps you *Can* still see a difference. |
| 05:38:56 | imphasing_ | Cassandra: Depends on the context you're talking about 30fps in though. In something like a game, sure. But if you mean just a constant refresh rate of 30fps, it's entirely possible to see that. |
| 05:39:33 | imphasing_ | But yeah, flicker plays a big part in the CRT noise you see. |
| 05:40:32 | Cassandra | Right. Back to bed for me. |
| 05:40:40 | imphasing_ | Woot. |
| 05:40:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sleep is good |
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| 07:36:43 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Anyone know how much battery power the LCD actually sucks up? I don't really like it when the screen turns off and i'd rather have it always on, but if it going to cut the battery life in half then it probably wont be worth it |
| 07:37:52 | B4gder | you can't read the screen of a h300 without backlight |
| 07:38:11 | B4gder | and lcd with backlight on is *eating* |
| 07:38:13 | DJ_Dooms_Day | Yes, i know that |
| 07:38:39 | DJ_Dooms_Day | and by that do you mean it'd quite litterially cut the battery life in half? |
| 07:39:09 | B4gder | I don't know how much, but it would certainly be shorterning run-time by a noticable amount |
| 07:40:16 | Bg3r | morning;) |
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| 07:43:27 | lamed | hello |
| 07:43:33 | lamed | paprica: around? |
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| 07:44:58 | lamed | i've found out that greyscale bmp plugins do not use fullscale. anyone can tell me what colors I can expect to work? |
| 07:45:32 | B4gder | lamed: amiconn is mr greyscale |
| 07:46:11 | B4gder | if you mean on h100 |
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| 07:49:52 | lamed | thanks, but he never speaks to me. don't know why though (!?) |
| 07:53:50 | aegray | linuxstb: thanks for the code :) |
| 07:57:36 | lamed | something a bit fishy with the patches/bug reports pages isn't it? (or are we moving to somewhere else?) |
| 07:57:54 | B4gder | uh-oh |
| 07:58:05 | lamed | hehe. what happend? |
| 07:58:07 | amiconn | morning |
| 07:58:12 | lamed | gday |
| 07:58:13 | amiconn | lamed: What? |
| 07:59:31 | B4gder | "500 - Internal Server Error" |
| 07:59:39 | lamed | amiconn: I'm trying to make some greyscale bmps (for brickmania h1x0 actually). but the thing is, I'm not sure what greyscale color would come out as white/gray/black. how many grey color are there? |
| 07:59:41 | amiconn | DJ_Dooms_Day: I still plan to implement a 2-stage backlight for H3x0, allowing to set 2 different backlight brightness values. |
| 07:59:47 | B4gder | quote from the xml export file |
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| 08:00:17 | lamed | uh-oh |
| 08:00:36 | amiconn | The backlight would go to the higher brightness after button press, wait the 1st timeout, then go to the lower brightness, wait a 2nd timeout, then go off |
| 08:01:09 | amiconn | It would be possible to set the 2nd timeout to 'On', and the 2nd brightness to 2 (lowest). |
| 08:02:00 | amiconn | lamed: As long as brickmania doesn't use the grayscale lib, there are just 2 grey levels: white / lightgrey / darkgrey / black |
| 08:02:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | lamed: Well, if it's not using the grayscale library, just the native grays, then there's only 4 total shades. Black, White, and two grays. |
| 08:02:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, what he said. |
| 08:03:47 | lamed | THANK YOU. I was actually doing a lot of trial and error to get to the same conclusion... just for my information, what do I have to do in order to use the greyscale library: just add it to the #include d files and it works? |
| 08:03:56 | amiconn | No. |
| 08:04:37 | amiconn | You would have to include gray.h, then convert all places which use lcd_* functions to use gray_* functions instead |
| 08:04:42 | Bg3r | amiconn in fact this is very good idea ;) |
| 08:04:53 | Bg3r | (2stage backlight |
| 08:04:53 | Bg3r | ) |
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| 08:05:02 | amiconn | ...preferably by defining macros, like it's done in mandelbrot.c, cube.c and others |
| 08:05:10 | Bg3r | or jpeg.c |
| 08:05:42 | amiconn | Please also note that the grayscale lib bitmap format is different from the native bitmaps |
| 08:06:03 | Mikachu | i noticed that when i tried to make the plasma plugin work |
| 08:06:21 | amiconn | ..so it may be difficult to integrate the bitmaps into the bitmap build system |
| 08:06:50 | lamed | amiconn: afaik color lcds uses LCD_ functions. is that because both color & 4 greyscale color lcds are 'native'? |
| 08:07:08 | amiconn | lcd_* just means the core functions |
| 08:07:23 | amiconn | The core functions support the native lcd depth |
| 08:08:29 | amiconn | The grayscale lib goes beyond the native lcd features, offering up to 33 shades on b&w LCDs (archos bitmap targets) and 4-grey LCDs (iriver H1x0) |
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| 08:09:52 | amiconn | Mikachu: The grayscale library bitmaps are in fact simple: Since there is no fixed 'native' format the grayscale lib can use (since it offers *variable* depths from 2 to 33 shades), it uses canonical bitmaps: |
| 08:10:14 | amiconn | Line-by-line, 1 byte/pixel, 0..255 |
| 08:10:35 | Mikachu | and what does lcd_mono_bitmap_etc want? |
| 08:11:15 | amiconn | mono bitmaps are (currently) identical on all platforms, but for plasma etc you probably want to use lcd_bitmap() |
| 08:11:56 | lamed | thanks amiconn, but i'm still having trouble with finding, probably the black-grey shade. I guess it somewhere ~ 60 ? |
| 08:12:18 | amiconn | You could use xlcd_gray_bitmap() from the lcd extension plugin lib, but then the effect would end up in pure greyscale |
| 08:12:25 | amiconn | lamed: 0 / 85 / 170 / 255 |
| 08:12:48 | Mikachu | okay, thanks. gotta go to school now |
| 08:12:58 | lamed | thank you! |
| 08:13:03 | amiconn | Mikachu: If you want it in colour, you need to use lcd_bitmap(), and do the conversion yourself |
| 08:13:11 | lamed | is it already in the wiki? |
| 08:13:18 | amiconn | I would use a lookup table for this |
| 08:14:12 | amiconn | lamed: Not afaik. Maybe there should be a wiki page documenting bmp2rb, which could include such information |
| 08:15:18 | lamed | <amiconn> I would use a lookup table for this - was that refering to me? i don't know what's a lookup table :/ |
| 08:15:26 | amiconn | ..but the levels are easy to compute. Just equal distances from 0...255 |
| 08:15:42 | amiconn | lamed: No, that was directed to Mikachu |
| 08:15:50 | lamed | (that's why i thought it's around 60) |
| 08:16:07 | lamed | amiconn: remember the screen scroll patch i've mailed you about? |
| 08:16:24 | * | amiconn goes digging |
| 08:16:39 | lamed | asking how is it possible to bind a long right click if it's already binded on the ondio's? |
| 08:17:06 | amiconn | I must have overlooked that mail :( |
| 08:17:32 | amiconn | Hmm, that's indeed a problem |
| 08:18:12 | amiconn | The bad thing about button combos is that they block easy one-handed operation |
| 08:18:27 | amiconn | (Not all, but most of them) |
| 08:19:06 | lamed | yeah. but i don't see any other bind for ondios. long click scrolls nicely on my h120. |
| 08:19:08 | amiconn | The screen scroll does work on Ondio as it is now - if the user is fast enough |
| 08:19:41 | lamed | what is he racing? |
| 08:20:00 | amiconn | You need to press Mode and Right within a short time window |
| 08:20:22 | amiconn | If you press Mode first and wait too long to press Right, you trigger the menu instead |
| 08:20:29 | amiconn | (menu is Long Mode) |
| 08:20:45 | lamed | and let me guess. a short mode takes you to the wps |
| 08:21:14 | amiconn | If you press Right first and wait too long to press Mode, you trigger the context menu instead |
| 08:21:34 | amiconn | Short Mode doesn't matter here |
| 08:21:58 | amiconn | Leftscroll is less problematic, for 2 reasons |
| 08:22:35 | amiconn | (1) Long Left has no function, so if you press Left first, there's no unwanted function that could be triggered |
| 08:23:04 | amiconn | (2) Left+Mode can be pressed together with the thumb |
| 08:23:57 | amiconn | Yes, short Mode is 'go to wps' / 'resume' |
| 08:24:43 | amiconn | I guess we have to live with the fact that some functions are not available, or tricky to reach, on Ondio |
| 08:24:55 | amiconn | There are only 6 buttons... |
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| 08:30:24 | lamed | then maybe we should change the function to at least work for the most players as a short left/right click. It's true to say it's not comfortable as it is now. I have a working version but i'm not to excited on finishing the work and then being have to bug everyone out until someone excepts it ... :P |
| 08:31:22 | Bg3r | amiconn any idea which target should have the biggest jpeg.rock (filesize-wise)? |
| 08:31:46 | lamed | and like the code is now, it will make us have to put some #ifdef s around some plugins, because it adds a _pre button definition to the menu system. |
| 08:32:06 | lamed | nm :/ |
| 08:32:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bg3r: I believe code on ARM targets ends up bigger than m68k right now, so probably iPods, I'd guess. |
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| 08:34:03 | B4gder | that's correct |
| 08:34:37 | Bg3r | stupid q, but the preprocessor can compare hex and decimal ints correctly, yep? |
| 08:34:42 | B4gder | color/nano being slightly bigger than video for some reason |
| 08:34:56 | B4gder | Bg3r: yes |
| 08:35:33 | B4gder | 17940 bytes color/nano |
| 08:35:39 | B4gder | 17904 video |
| 08:35:44 | lamed | i hate paint |
| 08:35:47 | B4gder | 16188 h120 |
| 08:35:58 | B4gder | 15884 ondiosp |
| 08:36:22 | B4gder | 14580 h300 |
| 08:36:56 | Bg3r | 10x :) |
| 08:37:01 | B4gder | excluding the sims |
| 08:42:13 | amiconn | My observations regarding code size: arm > coldfire > sh1 |
| 08:42:33 | amiconn | The h1x0 and archos jpeg.rock is slightly larger because of the grayscale lib |
| 08:42:57 | B4gder | yes, the sort plugin might be a better comparison for plain code size I guess |
| 08:43:13 | amiconn | preglow: Any news regarding jpeg colour? |
| 08:43:33 | B4gder | and it is sized 1590 - 1206 - 1128 on the archs |
| 08:44:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's a pretty considerable difference |
| 08:46:06 | B4gder | vorbis.codec is 119000 on arm, 102000 on coldfire |
| 08:51:12 | Bg3r | really, credits.c is compiled everytime when other plugin changes ... |
| 08:51:36 | B4gder | you're allowed to fix that ;-) |
| 08:51:37 | Bg3r | has been changed |
| 08:52:08 | Bg3r | B4gder don't make jokes with the makefiles, please:) |
| 08:52:15 | B4gder | hehe |
| 08:52:35 | * | B4gder sends a huuuge makefile manual to Bg3r for late night reading |
| 08:52:50 | Bg3r | heh |
| 08:53:08 | Bg3r | i'm sure i'll have very good and deep sleep after reading it... |
| 08:53:32 | Bg3r | after *starting* to read it |
| 08:55:41 | lamed | bg3r: All plugins are compiled when a bitmap is changed! |
| 08:56:54 | Bg3r | lamed, "feel free to fix it";) |
| 08:57:44 | lamed | HEHEHEH no way |
| 08:57:49 | lamed | :p |
| 08:58:05 | lamed | makefiles scares the hell out of me |
| 08:58:09 | B4gder | some of those artifacts are plain effects by our simple build method |
| 08:58:41 | B4gder | to fix for example that bitmap thing, we'd need a way to specify specific dependencies for specific plugins |
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| 08:59:33 | needleboy01 | morning folks |
| 08:59:41 | needleboy01 | is there an OP here? |
| 08:59:57 | needleboy01 | my user got locked online.. need someone to kick it |
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| 09:00:27 | B4gder | it doesn't help you anyway |
| 09:00:37 | needleboy01 | ? |
| 09:00:44 | B4gder | kicking just makes it leave this channel |
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| 09:00:52 | JdGordon | needleboy01: do /msg nickserv ghost your nick your pass |
| 09:00:55 | B4gder | it still uses the nick etc |
| 09:00:56 | JdGordon | next time... |
| 09:00:57 | needleboy01 | ok :_ |
| 09:01:03 | needleboy01 | it's ok now, brb |
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| 09:01:52 | needleboy | there we go |
| 09:02:02 | * | amiconn always forgets to use make -j for speedup :/ |
| 09:02:11 | needleboy | uhm, has anyone noticed the playback lag since yesterday? |
| 09:02:43 | needleboy | while scrolling, playing brickmania, the playback stops until you stop doing whatever you were doing... |
| 09:03:26 | B4gder | since yday? |
| 09:03:30 | needleboy | yup |
| 09:03:36 | needleboy | i thought it was only my build |
| 09:03:37 | B4gder | brickmania was the only thing changed |
| 09:03:43 | amiconn | linuxstb: It seems you really brought the iPod video up to speed. Considering the larger display, it's now faster than H300... |
| 09:03:52 | needleboy | but i've tried the bleeding edge and had the same problem... |
| 09:04:14 | amiconn | linuxstb: Did you also try the fps plugin on iPod color? |
| 09:04:24 | lamed | amiconn: does bmp2rb changes fullscale bitmaps to 4 greyscale if they are under bitmaps/native, or what? |
| 09:04:43 | amiconn | Yes |
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| 09:05:57 | lamed | so basicly, even if there is a color image, making a greyscale build won't pick up on any problem. hmmm |
| 09:06:32 | BHSPitMonkey | umm |
| 09:06:42 | BHSPitMonkey | the ipod 5G picture in the build table is wrong |
| 09:06:46 | BHSPitMonkey | it's a picture of a photo/4g |
| 09:06:51 | B4gder | yes |
| 09:06:55 | amiconn | bmp2rb converts any source .bmp to any requested rockbox bitmap format |
| 09:07:02 | B4gder | you rather want no pic? |
| 09:07:37 | amiconn | Converting a colour bitmap to greyscale uses the correct brightness weighting: 0.3*red + 0.6*green + 0.1*blue |
| 09:07:40 | * | Bg3r tries the jpeg viewer for first time and is really excited |
| 09:07:43 | * | B4gder teases BHSPitLappy to make him provide a proper pic |
| 09:07:49 | lamed | needleboy: the lag thing on while scrolling lists is pretty old. I've overheard some talking about it being associated with low refreshing rates lcds, but i think it's because of unicode being a bit slower and it has side effects |
| 09:07:54 | * | BHSPitLappy grumbles |
| 09:08:20 | B4gder | lamed: its because screen refresh is slow |
| 09:08:30 | B4gder | lcd driver and unicode combined |
| 09:08:33 | amiconn | lamed: The problem is that mono bitmap drawing is still rather slow, and drawing text means drawing a lot of mono bitmaps... |
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| 09:09:00 | amiconn | I have a couple of ideas but still have to try them... |
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| 09:09:50 | BHSPitLappy | my source tree has a lot of folders deleted, what cvs command will restore them? update -dP doesn't want to replace the missing ones |
| 09:10:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just update should |
| 09:10:05 | amiconn | lcd_update() is about the same speed as on archos bitmap targets now, so that's not the problem |
| 09:10:09 | BHSPitLappy | weird |
| 09:10:12 | B4gder | update -dP does for me |
| 09:10:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Update -dP doesn't replace files I've manually deleted |
| 09:10:31 | B4gder | yes it does |
| 09:10:39 | BHSPitLappy | *not for me* |
| 09:10:44 | lamed | amiconn, why's that any diffrent ever since unicode? - it was quite o.k beforehand. |
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| 09:11:02 | amiconn | lamed: Uhm, what target? |
| 09:11:03 | B4gder | I always use -dP (in .cvsrc) and I often delete files and cvs up them back |
| 09:11:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | B4gder: Cygwin CVS, or linux-ish CVS? |
| 09:11:22 | amiconn | unicode was before H300 support... |
| 09:11:31 | * | BHSPitLappy cygwin |
| 09:11:37 | B4gder | what's cygwin? |
| 09:11:45 | B4gder | :-] |
| 09:12:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently CVS under cygwin doesn't replace lost files when you use -dP |
| 09:12:07 | lamed | h120 |
| 09:12:12 | lamed | (amiconn) |
| 09:12:16 | B4gder | then they must've broke cvs |
| 09:12:39 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: It does for me |
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| 09:12:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Odd |
| 09:12:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mine doesn't. |
| 09:13:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I just cvs up, it replaces them, but a -dP didn't last time I tried. |
| 09:13:29 | BHSPitLappy | cvs up doesn't replace mine |
| 09:13:30 | amiconn | Sometimes, when I know that I changed something I don't need anymore, I just delete the file and then cvs up -dP |
| 09:13:31 | B4gder | -dP shouldn't have any effect on that operation |
| 09:13:49 | B4gder | -d creates new dirs, -P purges deleted files |
| 09:13:57 | lamed | under cygwin, even update restore files. but i think your problem might be in the /cvs folder. maybe something got deleted out of there. |
| 09:14:17 | BHSPitLappy | it updates my ./ and ./bootloader |
| 09:14:23 | BHSPitLappy | but nothing else |
| 09:15:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hrm, actually it's replacing files now. I *swear* it didn't a month ago, because I couldn't figure out how to replace a lost file other than browsing the CVS repository via the site and downloading it. |
| 09:15:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | I probably just somehow did something horribly stupid. |
| 09:15:17 | lamed | amiconn: h120, if you hold up/down on a list, after a while sound will stop. list will continue scroll after you leave the button, and scroll speed is significantly slower. |
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| 09:15:53 | lamed | yes! true greyscale using photostyler! |
| 09:16:14 | amiconn | Hmm, that's strange, although I can't comment much on whether this effect is new |
| 09:16:44 | amiconn | (1) I usually don't browse much while playing music. (2) I almost completely stopped using the H140 when I got my H340 |
| 09:17:01 | amiconn | On H340 scrolling is a huge problem |
| 09:17:16 | BHSPitLappy | ok, I just went to the parent dir and checked out the tree again |
| 09:17:25 | amiconn | (unlike the Ondio, which I still use) |
| 09:20:44 | lamed | i'm positive, it's old. i'm almost sure it was originated as we've got unicode. it was markum (iirc) that made the patch. he told me there are a few things to optimize around it. |
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| 09:25:51 | BHSPitLappy | how am I supposed to install SDL for a windows build? the runtime from their site is just a single dll |
| 09:26:08 | B4gder | read the wiki page |
| 09:26:30 | B4gder | their site has no suitable package |
| 09:26:36 | BHSPitLappy | ok |
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| 09:31:16 | yeahx | how goes it? |
| 09:31:27 | BHSPitLappy | that's interesting |
| 09:31:30 | Zoide777 | does ipodlinux work well with scrolling? if so, maybe its display drivers sould be used to improve rockbox's? I'm thinking of the 4g grayscale, for example |
| 09:31:39 | BHSPitLappy | nice of rockbox to host cygwin packages :P |
| 09:32:30 | B4gder | we are such nice guys ;-) |
| 09:33:56 | BHSPitLappy | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `UI-ipodvideo.bmp', needed by `/home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/sim5g/UI256.bmp'. Stop. |
| 09:33:58 | BHSPitLappy | :/ |
| 09:35:12 | B4gder | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2663.0 |
| 09:35:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | BHSPitLappy: You can also just download the source and do a standard configure, make, make install. |
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| 09:35:53 | BHSPitLappy | think that will be different than the cvs? |
| 09:36:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was talking about the SDL thing |
| 09:36:51 | BHSPitLappy | no, I got SDL now |
| 09:36:59 | BHSPitLappy | this is a uisimulator build error |
| 09:37:14 | B4gder | and a known one too |
| 09:37:40 | BHSPitLappy | :/ |
| 09:37:53 | B4gder | ? |
| 09:38:03 | BHSPitLappy | ? |
| 09:38:20 | B4gder | 1 I showed a URL, this has been discussed both on the dev list and in the forums |
| 09:38:35 | BHSPitLappy | oh, I missed it |
| 09:38:57 | B4gder | it is simply because we have no video pic |
| 09:42:22 | lamed | do you think the h120 cpu might be fast enough to run doom (if someone ports it...)? i think it is, as it's faster then an ipod 1st gen |
| 09:42:48 | Cassandra | lamed, I can't see why not. |
| 09:42:58 | safetydan | BHSPitLappy, just copy one of the other background pictures to UI-ipodvideo.bmp |
| 09:43:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | lamed: If it runs on the H340, it'll run on the h120 |
| 09:43:02 | Cassandra | A bigger problem is the slowness of the H120 LCD. |
| 09:43:07 | BHSPitLappy | already done |
| 09:43:08 | BHSPitLappy | building |
| 09:43:19 | * | safetydan waits patiently for someone to provide an iPod Video background BMP |
| 09:43:27 | amiconn | (doom on h1x0) Should work, probably even using the grayscale lib |
| 09:43:41 | BHSPitLappy | so am I correct in saying that the sim isn't even going to -use- the background pic? |
| 09:44:03 | safetydan | BHSPitLappy, it's optional at runtime, but required at compile time |
| 09:44:10 | BHSPitLappy | yeah... |
| 09:44:13 | safetydan | ./rockboxui −−background |
| 09:44:15 | safetydan | will use it |
| 09:44:48 | lamed | paul_the_nerd: i'm almost positive the h3x0 have faster cpus |
| 09:45:01 | markun | should the rockbox logo be visible at the beginning when I run the SDL simulator? |
| 09:45:07 | amiconn | lamed: H1x0 and H3x0 have the *exact* same cpu |
| 09:45:15 | lamed | gdamn |
| 09:45:18 | lamed | :/ |
| 09:45:24 | B4gder | markun: yes |
| 09:45:41 | markun | Hm, I only see some noise.. |
| 09:45:52 | lamed | i thought... mm... i don't know. |
| 09:46:08 | safetydan | markun, which target? |
| 09:46:14 | markun | gigabeat :) |
| 09:46:20 | B4gder | markun: are you possibly re-using an ipod pic there? |
| 09:46:28 | markun | no, I made my own |
| 09:46:32 | B4gder | ok |
| 09:46:34 | safetydan | ah, I don't think the LCD functions are mapped out correctly |
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| 09:46:50 | markun | at first it was using the 220x68 pic but also didn't show it |
| 09:47:08 | safetydan | or it's not handling the conversion from target format to host bitmap |
| 09:47:24 | B4gder | markun: can you handle bitmaps otherwise? |
| 09:47:33 | markun | yes, the background shows fine |
| 09:48:12 | safetydan | You'll probably need to fix get_lcd_pixel in uisimulator/sdl to fix the corrupted display. |
| 09:48:21 | safetydan | lcd-bitmap.c in there I mean |
| 09:49:11 | amiconn | markun: What's the gigabit target bitmap format? |
| 09:49:48 | markun | RGB5551, but that doesn't matter for the sim, does it? |
| 09:49:57 | safetydan | it does |
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| 09:50:09 | markun | ah, then I'll go and fix it |
| 09:50:16 | safetydan | sim has to translate from that in to screen format |
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| 09:50:45 | B4gder | markun: the sim stores the data in the framebuffer the same way as target does |
| 09:51:36 | amiconn | markun: If you stick with RGB5551, bmp2rb has to be able to create that format as well |
| 09:52:10 | amiconn | ...but I would check whether it's possible to use RGB565 with the gigabeat LCD |
| 09:52:10 | markun | amiconn: yes, I know, but I didn't think the sim would use the targets format |
| 09:52:55 | markun | still don't know which LCD driver it is |
| 09:53:39 | Zoide777 | does anyone's progress bar work on the 4g grayscale? |
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| 09:59:59 | markun | strange, I had defined LCD_PIXELFORMAT RGB565, so I should have worked in the sim.. |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:09 | markun | s/I/it |
| 10:04:40 | amiconn | Did you set the correct bmp2rb_native= for gigabeat in tools/configure ? |
| 10:05:32 | amiconn | linuxstb: Are you there? |
| 10:06:57 | ashridah | amiconn, B4gder: have you guys considered adding rockbox to http://cia.navi.cx/ ? |
| 10:07:17 | ashridah | you can't have too many stats :) |
| 10:07:30 | BHSPitLappy | my build is just stopped, at this message |
| 10:07:32 | BHSPitLappy | AR+RANLIB /home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/sim5g/libplugin.a |
| 10:07:37 | B4gder | ashridah: true! ;-) |
| 10:07:47 | ashridah | it can even add an irc bot for commit messages. |
| 10:10:18 | lamed | what's the command to c how long a user was idle? |
| 10:10:33 | Bg3r | lamed /whois nick nick |
| 10:11:26 | lamed | didn't told me idle time :/ |
| 10:11:48 | Bg3r | lamed 2 times the nick |
| 10:12:15 | BHSPitLappy | :S |
| 10:12:39 | BHSPitLappy | also, do the ui backgrounds work by masking on #000000 ? |
| 10:12:54 | lamed | whois paprica paprica |
| 10:12:58 | lamed | bahhhh |
| 10:13:12 | safetydan | BHSPitLappy, no, just pixel offsets |
| 10:13:19 | BHSPitLappy | oh |
| 10:13:33 | lamed | that's like what... in seconds i suppose |
| 10:13:45 | safetydan | [Paprica] idle 04:00:21, signon: Wed Feb 8 01:47:25 |
| 10:14:02 | BHSPitLappy | what can I do when my build just stops like this? :S |
| 10:14:16 | * | BHSPitLappy </3 cygwin |
| 10:15:25 | safetydan | make V=1 |
| 10:15:28 | safetydan | might tell you more |
| 10:16:20 | BHSPitLappy | I cancelled it, and it gave me: |
| 10:16:24 | BHSPitLappy | make[2]: *** Deleting file `/home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/sim5g/apps/plugins/dep-plugins' |
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| 10:18:53 | BHSPitLappy | I think it may be stuck in a loop |
| 10:19:02 | safetydan | BHSPitLappy, try a make clean first |
| 10:20:46 | BHSPitLappy | thanks |
| 10:21:23 | lamed | amiconn: i've just used a magnifying glass to see if there's a diffrence between black and grey-black :D there is, a reall small one.. |
| 10:21:51 | amiconn | It really depends on the contrast setting |
| 10:23:27 | | Part yeahx |
| 10:24:32 | lamed | it was funnier that way |
| 10:26:05 | * | amiconn really starts to hate NiMH batteries |
| 10:26:23 | amiconn | They are always empty when you need them... :( |
| 10:27:51 | BHSPitLappy | I'm still getting stuck in an if loop |
| 10:28:36 | linuxstb | Morning all. |
| 10:29:01 | safetydan | morning |
| 10:29:09 | BHSPitLappy | morning |
| 10:29:09 | safetydan | BHSPitLappy, does make V=1 not say anything? |
| 10:29:18 | amiconn | hi linuxstb |
| 10:29:18 | BHSPitLappy | it says a -lot- :P |
| 10:29:46 | BHSPitLappy | a whole page full of text, and every second, it repeats itself |
| 10:29:49 | amiconn | linuxstb: Would it be possible to integrate grayscale bitmaps into th e.bmp build system? |
| 10:29:51 | BHSPitLappy | err |
| 10:29:54 | BHSPitLappy | every 5 sec or so |
| 10:30:01 | safetydan | What's the last line? |
| 10:30:10 | amiconn | (only for targets supported by the grayscale lib, and for plugins only) |
| 10:30:20 | lamed | amiconn: can all non-color lcd bitmaps use grayscale functions? |
| 10:30:35 | amiconn | No. |
| 10:30:39 | BHSPitLappy | done | sed -e "s:[^[:space:]]*lang.h:/home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/sim5g/apps/plugins/lang.o:" > /home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/sim5g/apps/plugins/dep-plugins; \echo "oo" > /dev/null ) |
| 10:30:45 | Cassandra | amicon: I used to use them in my mini torch for electronics work. I give up and replaced them with alkalines so my torch had more than a 1 in 5 chance of working when I needed it. |
| 10:30:53 | amiconn | The grayscale lib isn't implemented yet for the greyscale iPods, |
| 10:31:26 | safetydan | BHSPitLappy, yeah okay I'm out of ideas, sorry :( |
| 10:31:27 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, it's straightforward. Just create one more set of everything - a new directory, and a new bmp2rb definition. |
| 10:31:31 | BHSPitLappy | :( |
| 10:31:39 | amiconn | linuxstb: Ah ok. |
| 10:31:53 | amiconn | Might be interesting for brickmania on H1x0 |
| 10:31:57 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: my 5G SDL sim (xp) is getting stuck in an infinite loop :'( |
| 10:32:03 | amiconn | On archos it won't work I'm afraid |
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| 10:32:31 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: Does it only happen in the 5g sim? Have you tried others? |
| 10:33:29 | lamed | amiconn: i'm working on brickmania. but i don't suppose it will have much effect on the game, so i'm only doing the main menu for now. |
| 10:33:29 | amiconn | linuxstb: Did you try to measure fps on iPod color as well? |
| 10:34:40 | lamed | umm.. how should i #ifdef rull out the grayscales ipods ? |
| 10:35:23 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, it gives me 72.5 and 284.0 |
| 10:36:29 | linuxstb | lamed: Use CONFIG_LCD != LCD_IPOD2BPP - but that doesn't work in the sim. |
| 10:36:41 | lamed | thanks |
| 10:37:09 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: seems to also get stuck with the photo/color, too |
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| 10:37:28 | * | safetydan wonders if the EQ UI needs to warn the user more when they're doing something silly |
| 10:37:46 | BHSPitLappy | must be clientside, but I can't figure anything, the source tree is fresh |
| 10:41:10 | BHSPitLappy | I'll get back on this in a few hours... |
| 10:42:14 | amiconn | lamed, linuxstb: The grayscale lib isn't supported in the sims anyway |
| 10:42:25 | amiconn | (still...) |
| 10:43:08 | lamed | linuxstb said that. |
| 10:44:33 | safetydan | amiconn, is it something that should be supported? |
| 10:44:44 | lamed | i'm surprised! i'm alowed to rb->gray_bitmap from a plugin |
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| 10:45:24 | amiconn | safetydan: Yes it should. I want to do that for quite a while now, but didn't get around actually doing it |
| 10:46:10 | amiconn | Of course it shouldn't use the bitmap flicking as on the target, but convert to a true grayscale image with variable depth instead |
| 10:46:22 | amiconn | Needs adjustments in the lib itself as well |
| 10:47:09 | safetydan | I find myself spending a lot of time in the sim lately, I might take a look at doing that. |
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| 10:50:50 | amiconn | safetydan: I have some ideas how this could work |
| 10:51:08 | JdGordon | hey LinusN, have u had a chance to look at the patch yet? |
| 10:51:28 | LinusN | no, i'm busy with Paid Work(tm) |
| 10:51:42 | JdGordon | haha ok |
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| 10:52:24 | Zoide777 | Maybe I'm totally confused, but shouldn't lcd-ipod.c have something other than void lcd_update(void) to allow repainting only the relevant portions of the screen? |
| 10:52:27 | amiconn | safetydan: Adding grayscale lib support was one reason for the gradient function. I see that the sdl gradient function doesn't allow to set the start index but always starts at 0 instead |
| 10:52:57 | Zoide777 | e.g. If we have just scrolled one line in a list, we don't need to repaint the whole LCD, just the line that was unselected and the line that was selected |
| 10:53:14 | safetydan | amiconn, the one in lcd-sdl.c? |
| 10:53:21 | amiconn | Zoide777: lcd_update_rect() |
| 10:53:25 | amiconn | safetydan: yes |
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| 10:53:32 | Zoide777 | amiconn: Ooops, haha, thanks |
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| 10:54:08 | safetydan | obviously that can be changed |
| 10:54:11 | Zoide777 | (definitely need more sleep) |
| 10:54:12 | amiconn | Zoide777: ...but if the list was actually scrolled, we need to update the whole lcd anyway |
| 10:54:19 | linuxstb | Zoide777: If you're looking to fix the 4g grayscale problems, then the place to look is lcd-2bit-horiz.c |
| 10:54:41 | linuxstb | It's the drawing of graphics into the LCD framebuffer that is buggy - not the low-level driver in lcd-ipod.c |
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| 10:55:00 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: thanks. that's actually what I'm interested in, though I have no expertise in this. still wanted to have a look at the source though |
| 10:55:11 | amiconn | linuxstb: 4g grayscale is still buggy? |
| 10:55:32 | linuxstb | Yes - you can see for yourself in a sim. |
| 10:56:30 | * | amiconn should try that |
| 10:56:33 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: doesn't lcd-ipod.c also have issues, though? I saw that lcd_blit() has "todo" stuff in it. (thought I have no idea what blit does) |
| 10:56:43 | linuxstb | I haven't heard from slimx for a couple of weeks, so I don't know if he's done anything on it. |
| 10:57:10 | linuxstb | lcd_blit() isn't used. |
| 10:57:46 | amiconn | lcd_blit() would be necessary for grayscale lib support |
| 10:58:20 | Zoide777 | so right now 4g grayscale is literally 4g black/white? |
| 10:58:23 | amiconn | However, it would also need working user timer support, which is the bigger problem |
| 10:58:35 | amiconn | Nope. 4g can use the 4 native greylevels |
| 10:59:11 | Zoide777 | so what is grayscale lib for, converting non-native images to the 4 levels? |
| 10:59:18 | amiconn | Nope |
| 10:59:28 | linuxstb | grayscale lib is Rockbox's secret weapon... |
| 10:59:52 | amiconn | The grayscale lib allows showing up to 33 levels of grey on LCDs which only support b&w or 4 grey levels natively |
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| 11:00:01 | Zoide777 | !?!?!?!!?!?!?!!!!! |
| 11:00:15 | amiconn | ...by temporal dithering, i.e. flicking through a number of b&w images very fast |
| 11:00:16 | B4gder | yes, like that |
| 11:00:20 | Zoide777 | so you could even have antialiasing? |
| 11:00:28 | B4gder | but toggling colors instead of ? and ! ;-) |
| 11:00:33 | Zoide777 | hahaa |
| 11:00:49 | Zoide777 | oh, i guess antialiasing wouldnt be worth the flickering though |
| 11:00:49 | amiconn | It's only used for plugins, since it puts quite some load on the CPU |
| 11:00:55 | Zoide777 | yeah |
| 11:01:09 | amiconn | ...but it e.g. allows watching JPEG images |
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| 11:01:17 | Zoide777 | nice |
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| 11:03:15 | [IDC]Dragon | hi amiconn, back from the olympics? |
| 11:03:16 | * | Membrillo is happy that his downloader works with the new optimized file host |
| 11:03:25 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: yes |
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| 11:03:29 | Zoide777 | I was also looking at button.c ... For the clickwheel scrolling, instead of just checking for deltas of 4 and -4, could there be an extra one for, say 20 and -20 so that we can create two extra "buttons" PAGE_UP and PAGE_DN for accelerated scrolling in 4g's? |
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| 11:05:07 | Zoide777 | (e.g. in the file list, list.c, there's PG_UP and PG_DN for when you hold down on the h-120, making the list zoom up & down more quickly) |
| 11:05:31 | amiconn | linuxstb: Ouch! |
| 11:06:47 | amiconn | I thought lcd-2bit-horz wouldn't be a problem, since it's just a transposed lcd-h100 |
| 11:07:54 | amiconn | Think I'll work on it a bit, since it will also profit from transposed mono bitmapa... |
| 11:07:59 | amiconn | *bitmaps |
| 11:08:40 | [IDC]Dragon | Cassandra: do u read? |
| 11:10:33 | amiconn | Transposing the native bitmaps shouldn't be a problem, just need an additional output format for bmp2rb |
| 11:11:10 | amiconn | In case someone will ever pick up the gmini port again - the gmini 2xx use 4 bit horizontal packing... |
| 11:11:23 | linuxstb | The problem is that they are not all in external bmp files yet - I'm sure there are a few plugins with native 2bpp bitmaps hardcoded. |
| 11:12:01 | lamed | amiconn: i've changed rb->lcd_bitmap to rb->gray_bitmap, but that's not the way to do it i see |
| 11:12:45 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:14:10 | linuxstb | Zoide777: I've been looking at how the Apple firmware handles the clickwheel, and it seems to skip items in the list when you scroll faster than a certain speed. It seems to have scroll events that move 1 item, 4 items, and probably more, depending on the speed. |
| 11:14:11 | amiconn | No, of course not |
| 11:14:24 | amiconn | The gray_* functions aren't part of the core |
| 11:15:04 | linuxstb | I think that just moving one item or moving a whole page isn't a smooth enough acceleration. We probably need 3 or 4 different scroll events in each direction to take account of it. |
| 11:17:08 | lamed | linuxstb: what about skipping an increasing number of files in every event? |
| 11:17:33 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: ok, but where would these speeds be evaluated? Could it be done in button.c by adding more if's to the delta checks? |
| 11:18:32 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Yes, I'm thinking it would be in the button driver, which would send different scroll events depending on the speed. |
| 11:19:41 | linuxstb | lamed: IIUC, I don't think that's the right effect - if you turn the wheel at a constant speed, it should scroll at a constant speed. |
| 11:21:52 | Zoide777 | What I've tried was to modify list.c. I keep a scrollCounter, and then in do_button I have if's to check if the counter has exceeded +/- 80. So if that's true, LIST_NEXT and LIST_PREV behave just like LIST_PGDN and LIST_PGDN, moving a whole page as opposed to a line. It works reasonably well, but seems horrible inneficient and slows down every periodically |
| 11:22:13 | Zoide777 | (so I thought maybe the button.c approach would be better) |
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| 11:26:42 | Membrillo | needleboy: are you here? |
| 11:27:34 | Membrillo | obviously not |
| 11:27:37 | needleboy | yup |
| 11:27:38 | needleboy | :) |
| 11:28:22 | needleboy | Membrillo? |
| 11:29:04 | Membrillo | ah! |
| 11:29:42 | Membrillo | do the optimized build's filenames need to be timestamped? is there some purpose behind it? |
| 11:30:18 | needleboy | to compare to CVS timestamps... |
| 11:30:23 | needleboy | it's mostly for me |
| 11:30:26 | needleboy | why? |
| 11:30:30 | Membrillo | oh ok. no problems |
| 11:31:35 | Membrillo | just, my downloader works with the new host but has to have the same filename everytime. Its ok though, just wondering if it was there to be pretty |
| 11:31:52 | needleboy | oh... |
| 11:31:53 | needleboy | crap |
| 11:32:00 | needleboy | i never thought of that... |
| 11:32:04 | needleboy | but wait... |
| 11:32:13 | needleboy | the version number changes as well every version |
| 11:32:42 | needleboy | can't you make it find the file that starts with RockBoxH300 and ends with .zip? |
| 11:32:47 | needleboy | and ignore the source? |
| 11:33:04 | Membrillo | nah, i have to feed in an exact URL |
| 11:33:11 | Membrillo | i wish :P |
| 11:33:21 | needleboy | so it doesn't work anyomre? |
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| 11:33:28 | needleboy | *anymore |
| 11:33:42 | needleboy | hmmm, another thought |
| 11:33:47 | Membrillo | well it works, but it wont work when you release a new version with a different filename |
| 11:33:57 | needleboy | in 30 minutes... |
| 11:34:02 | needleboy | and tomorrow |
| 11:34:05 | Zoide777 | Does anyone get the following problem when building latest source in Cygwin? "MAKE in bitmaps/native make[3]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." etc |
| 11:34:07 | needleboy | and the day after that... |
| 11:34:10 | Membrillo | exactly |
| 11:34:27 | needleboy | Zoide: it's only on the source downloaded froom the site |
| 11:34:35 | needleboy | try the CVS, it's good there |
| 11:34:45 | Zoide777 | ok, thanks |
| 11:34:47 | needleboy | np |
| 11:34:59 | needleboy | someone needs to take care of that, btw... |
| 11:35:06 | needleboy | it's been like that since monday |
| 11:35:20 | needleboy | no images are supplied in bitmaps\native |
| 11:35:28 | B4gder | where? |
| 11:35:42 | needleboy | the source on the daily builds page on the site |
| 11:35:55 | needleboy | this: http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-source/rockbox-bleeding.tar.gz |
| 11:37:12 | needleboy | brb |
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| 11:38:28 | Zoide777 | What do you guys think about my suggestions for 4g clickwheel in list.c and/or button.c ? Has anyone else played around with this? |
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| 11:39:40 | needleboy | back |
| 11:39:45 | needleboy | B4gder, seen it? |
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| 11:43:24 | webguest75 | Morning! |
| 11:43:37 | ashridah | B4gder: considered CIA? |
| 11:43:57 | webguest75 | When you shut down the iPod using iPodbox, does it put it into sleep mode or does it turn the device off completly? |
| 11:44:53 | webguest75 | also Upside Down and LCD Mode (Normal/Invert) doesn't work on iPodbox |
| 11:45:11 | B4gder | needleboy: yes |
| 11:45:21 | B4gder | ashridah: yes, but it'll require a sunny day with less workload |
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| 11:51:54 | Membrillo | hoorah needleboy. another release |
| 11:52:08 | * | Membrillo gives the thumbs up |
| 11:52:25 | needleboy | yup |
| 11:55:00 | Membrillo | wow |
| 11:55:05 | Membrillo | bejeweled is slick |
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| 11:59:04 | needleboy | hmmm... scrolling bug seems to have been fixed now |
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| 11:59:17 | needleboy | playback doesn't pause on scroll anymore. |
| 11:59:19 | needleboy | nice |
| 11:59:28 | Membrillo | whats the scrolling bug? |
| 11:59:50 | needleboy | playback used to pause when scrolling in the last 2 builds |
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| 12:00:13 | Membrillo | scrolling as in FFW RWD? |
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| 12:00:48 | needleboy | no... scrolling in menus/files |
| 12:00:53 | Membrillo | if i scroll through all my artists, after about 5 seconds, audio playback pauses for me |
| 12:00:59 | needleboy | but Brickmania still pauses playback |
| 12:01:08 | needleboy | which is a bitch... |
| 12:01:08 | Membrillo | on the newest build |
| 12:01:19 | needleboy | grrr |
| 12:01:33 | needleboy | devs, anyone got a clue on these 2 problems? |
| 12:01:35 | Membrillo | in the brickmania menu it plays |
| 12:01:50 | Membrillo | in the actual game it pauses. strange.... |
| 12:02:06 | linuxstb | In the menu, it's not doing any work (just waiting for a keypress). |
| 12:03:02 | Membrillo | if your scrolling (holding /\ or \/) it pauses |
| 12:03:16 | Membrillo | its doing more than waiting for a keypress there |
| 12:04:37 | Zoide777 | needleboy: no more audio pauses while scrolling through the song files? Is that in the bleeding builds or just on cvs? |
| 12:04:56 | needleboy | i'm talking about my build |
| 12:05:04 | needleboy | but it seems that the bug's still there |
| 12:05:58 | Zoide777 | arrgg |
| 12:06:20 | Membrillo | its not a huge problem for me |
| 12:06:36 | Membrillo | I rarely scroll for long periods of time |
| 12:06:48 | Membrillo | i guess for others its a different story |
| 12:08:04 | needleboy | going to eat |
| 12:08:07 | needleboy | bbl |
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| 12:16:02 | Zoide777 | Woohoo!!!! Accelerated scrolling almost works. I just need to calibrate the movement parameters a bit |
| 12:16:28 | Zoide777 | If you move the wheel slowly, it skips a single line; if you move it faster, it skips a whole page. That makes it *much* easier to navigate through big file lists |
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| 12:19:39 | * | linuxstb doesn't have any big lists... |
| 12:21:38 | Zoide777 | (Zoide is happy w/ his build nonetheless :D ) |
| 12:21:54 | * | Zoide777 forgot the /me command |
| 12:22:00 | Zoide777 | hehe |
| 12:22:11 | * | Zoide777 should go to bed |
| 12:22:41 | linuxstb | Did you change button.c to implement a scroll_page_down event, or did you change list.c ? |
| 12:24:42 | preglow | linuxstb: nice 5g lcd work |
| 12:25:34 | linuxstb | hehe :) Just a bit of lateral thinking... |
| 12:26:34 | linuxstb | I'm wondering how the IPL people know that it's definitely the broadcom chip the driver communicates with, and not the LCD directly. |
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| 12:28:19 | jackinabox^ | hi all |
| 12:29:12 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: 1st I went to button.h and added these keys to the 4G section: "#define BUTTON_UP 0x0011" and "#define BUTTON_DOWN 0x0021". Then I went to button.c and added |
| 12:29:14 | Zoide777 | new delta if checks before the > 4 and < -4. Then in list.h I added this to the 3G/4G section: "#define LIST_PGUP BUTTON_UP" and "#define LIST_PGDN BUTTON_DOWN" |
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| 12:30:38 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Sounds like the right approach. I'm not sure if BUTTON_UP and BUTTON_DOWN are the best names, but that's easily changed. |
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| 12:31:16 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: yeah, it was a bit hackish, but i was kind of rushing through b/c it's very late... & b/c i was very impatient ;) |
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| 12:33:36 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: could this eventually get added to the official source? |
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| 12:34:17 | lamed | BrickMania New Patch for h1x00 |
| 12:34:17 | lamed | http://planet.nana.co.il/lshachar/brickmania.zip |
| 12:34:25 | lamed | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1418787&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 12:35:32 | another_kosh | I'm having a problem compiling anyone care to lend a hand..;) |
| 12:35:40 | jackinabox^ | as ugly as would probably look on screen, could u run a set of RCAs from the "Line Out" of the H3xx pyers and ply a .avi movie on the tv? |
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| 12:36:58 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Yes, if people like it. When you're ready, post it to the patch tracker, and then others can try it. |
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| 12:39:06 | preglow | linuxstb: god knows, they themselves say they've never opened one up, so i asume they're not sure |
| 12:40:09 | * | amiconn notices preglow around |
| 12:40:18 | amiconn | preglow: Any news concerning jpeg colour? |
| 12:41:15 | preglow | no, i don't have time |
| 12:41:19 | preglow | workworkwork |
| 12:41:35 | preglow | and i've been gone for a couple of days to boot |
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| 12:42:12 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: ok. I also made a font that adds great looking Chinese support to 6x13 (it's almost ready). Do I also submit that to the patch tracker? |
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| 12:43:07 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Assuming your font is freely redistributable, then yes. I don't know Rockbox's rules for adding fonts though. |
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| 12:44:34 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: it's just "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni" (freely available) with the latin characters replaced by the ones in 6x13 |
| 12:45:02 | amiconn | preglow: It would be sufficient if you could add chroma decoding to yuv. I'll probably manage to add the necessary drawing function which does yuv->rgb on the fly |
| 12:45:05 | linuxstb | Zoide777: As I said, I don't know Rockbox's rules about that - but we need to be sure it's legal for us to include it. |
| 12:45:55 | linuxstb | amiconn: What do you think about adding yuv support at the lcd driver level? Could be useful for any upcoming video players. Or is that adding too much to the core? |
| 12:46:22 | amiconn | I don't think we will need this in the core |
| 12:46:38 | amiconn | If we put it in the plugin lib, other plugins can use it too |
| 12:46:48 | preglow | amiconn: i'll look at it when i have time |
| 12:46:52 | preglow | amiconn: which won't be any time soon |
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| 12:51:01 | Zoide777 | I have a question: why does the hard drive spin up when shutting down? Also, it also seems to spin when going through folders even if folder cache is enabled |
| 12:51:44 | linuxstb | It saves the settings information when you shut down - including the resume information. |
| 12:51:49 | amiconn | :-( If I only knew more about jpeg decoding... |
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| 12:56:03 | NicoFR | amiconn: isn't the info over there: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=37165 of any help ? |
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| 13:02:43 | Zoide777 | Does BUTTON_REPEAT stand for when you hold down a button? If so, where is that timed? |
| 13:04:23 | safetydan | Yes and button.c |
| 13:04:24 | linuxstb | Yes - I expect it is in button.c But the scroll events don't repeat. Normal buttons have "pressed", "released" and "repeat" events. Scroll events are just one type. |
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| 13:08:23 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: so for example, what would this mean? "case LIST_PGUP | BUTTON_REPEAT:" |
| 13:08:39 | markun | The gigabeat has a VOL+ and a VOL- button. Should they be used for other purposes or always change the volume? |
| 13:11:59 | B4gder | markun: well, normally we don't care about what the buttons say but it really depends on the target, its users and how many other useful buttons there are |
| 13:12:44 | safetydan | Zoide777, that would mean that the case would only execute when the button was held |
| 13:12:47 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:13:13 | Zoide777 | safetydan: So the single bar "|" behaves like double ampersand "&&"? |
| 13:13:31 | B4gder | single | is bitwise OR |
| 13:13:46 | B4gder | && is logical and |
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| 13:14:22 | linuxstb | markun: IMO, if you can spare the buttons, I think it would be nice to change rockbox to have global volume buttons. The h1x0's lcd remote has volume buttons that could be mapped to that function. |
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| 13:14:57 | Paprica | hi |
| 13:15:09 | safetydan | Zoide777, it's a little different as it's a bitwise OR but you can think of it like that if it helps |
| 13:16:09 | Zoide777 | safetydan: actually, just looked it up. that's very interesting; i hadn't realized that the actual values we give to, say BUTTON_UP make a difference when using | |
| 13:16:26 | safetydan | bitfields are fun :) |
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| 13:18:27 | webguest06 | for info, my h140 froze solid when I pressed pause during playback, no amount of button pressing would coax a change, did a hard reset and everything is fine. |
| 13:18:50 | webguest06 | file playing was music, LAME@aps |
| 13:19:46 | webguest06 | Haven't been able to replicate the freeze |
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| 13:22:58 | MarcoPolo | hello ! |
| 13:23:03 | * | webguest06 thinks its eerliy quiet in the room |
| 13:23:13 | MarcoPolo | i'm wondering if they are key equivalents for ipod |
| 13:23:22 | MarcoPolo | (for instance, how can I see the id3tags etc.) |
| 13:23:25 | webguest06 | ah marco, back from your travels are you |
| 13:23:30 | MarcoPolo | 5G works rather well |
| 13:23:32 | MarcoPolo | webguest06: lol |
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| 13:26:02 | JdGordon | ok we can come out of hiding now... he has gone :D |
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| 13:31:45 | MarcoPolo | nobody knows which key-combos i can use ? |
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| 13:34:59 | Zoide777 | Does any one know what this is supposed to do? "gui_synclist_limit_scroll(lists, false);" |
| 13:35:22 | Bg3r | see the code ... :) |
| 13:35:54 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Not many people understand the new gui code in Rockbox.... |
| 13:36:01 | linuxstb | (I know I don't) |
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| 13:36:41 | Bg3r | Zoide777 look in apps/gui folder |
| 13:36:54 | Bg3r | synclist means that the list is synced on the 2 screens |
| 13:37:00 | Bg3r | :) |
| 13:37:06 | linuxstb | Ah, that explains a lot :) |
| 13:37:16 | Bg3r | hahah |
| 13:37:21 | Bg3r | very much |
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| 13:37:51 | Bg3r | it calls gui_limit_scroll() for each of the screens or so (i just guess) |
| 13:38:00 | Zoide777 | hmm.. ok, so I looked at list.c and list.h, and if i understand correctly, it just changes a boolean that does this? |
| 13:38:01 | Zoide777 | Tells the list wether it should stop when reaching the top/bottom |
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| 13:38:15 | Bg3r | ah, maybe :) |
| 13:38:34 | Zoide777 | (just copy pasting from list.h :) ) |
| 13:38:58 | Zoide777 | " Tells the list wether it should stop when reaching the top/bottom or should continue (by going to bottom/top)" |
| 13:39:18 | Zoide777 | but doesn't the list *always* continue? at least I've never seen it stop |
| 13:39:31 | Zoide777 | oops |
| 13:39:37 | Zoide777 | I guess I got mixed up |
| 13:40:06 | Zoide777 | it continues by *wrapping*, but not by changing direction (as long as the boolean says false). is that it? |
| 13:41:15 | Bg3r | huh ? |
| 13:42:20 | Zoide777 | hmm.. I mean, what does that boolean do? It seems to toggle whether you stop when you reach a (top or bottom) extreme of the list. Correct? |
| 13:42:29 | safetydan | yes |
| 13:42:47 | Zoide777 | but what's the point if we always set it to false? |
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| 13:44:41 | safetydan | it's not always set to false |
| 13:44:55 | Zoide777 | (I can't think of a situation where we don't just wrap and keep going) |
| 13:45:45 | safetydan | By default the list code will wrap when you reach the end of a list by just repeatedly pressing up/down. If you hold down the button though, you'll stop when you hit the end |
| 13:45:53 | linuxstb | The list widget is also used for settings screens - so you don't want to adjust the volume down to mute, and then go too far and change it to maximum. |
| 13:46:11 | Zoide777 | ahhhhhhh |
| 13:46:23 | linuxstb | Forget that.... that was nonsense. |
| 13:46:28 | safetydan | linuxstb, eh? I thought that was the select widget? |
| 13:46:29 | safetydan | ah |
| 13:46:29 | Zoide777 | hmm |
| 13:46:44 | * | linuxstb goes to get dark black liquid |
| 13:46:50 | Zoide777 | haha |
| 13:47:06 | safetydan | linuxstb, but early for Guinness isn't it? |
| 13:47:13 | safetydan | s/but/bit |
| 13:47:14 | linuxstb | Never too early. |
| 13:47:26 | * | amiconn despairs |
| 13:47:45 | safetydan | Because you don't have a Guinness? |
| 13:47:53 | amiconn | ?? |
| 13:48:12 | safetydan | sorry, though you were commenting on the above few lines |
| 13:48:15 | safetydan | thought |
| 13:48:15 | amiconn | Because I don't get the logic behind jpeg_decode() |
| 13:48:23 | safetydan | ah yeah |
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| 13:50:28 | Bg3r | amiconn i'm currently working on the jpeg plugin too... |
| 13:50:44 | Bg3r | but not on that part for sure :) |
| 13:50:45 | amiconn | Oh, nice |
| 13:50:51 | amiconn | Hmm :/ |
| 13:50:53 | Bg3r | no, it isn't nice |
| 13:50:57 | Bg3r | :) |
| 13:51:01 | amiconn | The yuv->rgb I can do myself |
| 13:51:34 | amiconn | It's in fact simple, regardless whether the yuv data will be interleaved or not |
| 13:52:15 | Bg3r | i'm working on XavierGr's patch |
| 13:52:18 | amiconn | jpeg_decode() uses double indirections which are pratically impossible to follow... |
| 13:52:23 | Zoide777 | safetydan/linuxstb: so, do we know what the boolean is for? |
| 13:52:37 | safetydan | whether it wraps or not I though |
| 13:52:39 | safetydan | thought |
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| 13:52:56 | NicoFR | Bg3r: the file scrolling patch ? |
| 13:53:20 | Bg3r | yep |
| 13:53:46 | NicoFR | what are you doing with it ? |
| 13:53:59 | Bg3r | minor corrections |
| 13:54:36 | Bg3r | but i'm a bit loss with all these global vars used everywhere :) |
| 13:54:52 | Zoide777 | Bg3r: file scrolling patch? Is this related to accelerating when scrolling up/down or is it something about sidewise scrolling of long names? |
| 13:55:18 | XavierGr | changing files inside the viewer |
| 13:55:39 | XavierGr | (and allow playback if the picture can fit in the plugin buffer) |
| 13:55:58 | Bg3r | but not atm :) |
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| 13:56:24 | NicoFR | XavierGr: about the view while playing part... it doesn't compile on h300... i suppose it's normal ? |
| 13:56:44 | XavierGr | it did compiled as of 3 days... |
| 13:57:02 | XavierGr | something maybe changed between |
| 13:57:13 | linuxstb | amiconn: Have you tried looking at the CVS history for jpeg.c? Were earlier versions more understandable? |
| 13:57:31 | NicoFR | well i think i tried about 3 days ago... so it must be me. |
| 13:57:33 | amiconn | The decoder didn't change at all after initial commit afaik |
| 13:58:04 | NicoFR | XavierGr: are we taliking about patch [ 1358312 ] Updated* Mod. JPEG viewer; allows listening + file scrolling |
| 13:58:05 | NicoFR | ? |
| 13:58:11 | XavierGr | no |
| 13:58:18 | Bg3r | XavierGr i was just kidding |
| 13:58:39 | Bg3r | atm it's in such state that i won't even try to run it :) |
| 13:58:47 | XavierGr | haha |
| 13:58:51 | XavierGr | now I got it. |
| 13:59:12 | XavierGr | I hope at least you saved those corrections you did before trying to restructure it |
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| 13:59:27 | Bg3r | yep |
| 13:59:29 | XavierGr | http://www.rockbox.org/patches.shtml |
| 13:59:35 | XavierGr | wow where the patches gone? |
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| 14:00:05 | Bg3r | XavierGr all are commited :D |
| 14:00:14 | NicoFR | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 14:00:29 | Bg3r | seriously, B4gder and Zagor are/were working on moving them to rockbox's site (afaik) |
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| 14:00:33 | B4gder | we can describe the situation in one word: |
| 14:00:36 | B4gder | sourceforge |
| 14:00:44 | Bg3r | ah |
| 14:01:11 | XavierGr | I have seen this before, but that time at least it displayed half the patches. |
| 14:01:29 | linuxstb | B4gder: Have you and Zagor decided on tracker software you want to use? |
| 14:01:32 | B4gder | the "export as XML" function says "Internal Server Error" |
| 14:01:36 | Zoide777 | what's wrong w/ sourceforge? |
| 14:01:43 | linuxstb | It's unreliable. |
| 14:01:44 | B4gder | Zoide777: everything! |
| 14:01:47 | Bg3r | sourceforge itself :) |
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| 14:02:06 | Zoide777 | haha ok |
| 14:02:06 | Zoide777 | seems to me the irc thing is also unreliable |
| 14:02:09 | B4gder | linuxstb: I believe Zagor is going for Flyspray |
| 14:02:28 | B4gder | irc thing? |
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| 14:02:41 | NicoFR | XavierGr: what patch is it, then ? 1248947 ? |
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| 14:03:02 | NicoFR | that one is old... |
| 14:03:27 | XavierGr | NicoFR: one moment |
| 14:03:31 | NicoFR | ok |
| 14:03:31 | linuxstb | B4gder: I just hope the email notifications don't top-post.... |
| 14:03:41 | B4gder | I hope so too |
| 14:03:49 | Zoide777 | B4gder: hehe... I deliberately said "thing" b/c i'm not sure if it's the server/channel itself or if it's the website irc cgi app |
| 14:04:23 | XavierGr | NicoFR: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1266294&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 14:04:44 | Bg3r | this is already old too ;) |
| 14:05:54 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 14:05:59 | XavierGr | at least it works |
| 14:06:09 | XavierGr | until you commit something that is |
| 14:06:34 | NicoFR | but does this one have view while playing ? i thought it didn't... |
| 14:06:52 | Bg3r | NicoFR depends on the size of the image |
| 14:07:00 | XavierGr | well I adopted the idea and included in |
| 14:07:05 | NicoFR | ok |
| 14:07:21 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I saw complaints about the jpeg decoder? |
| 14:07:27 | XavierGr | main idea was from Sebastian Henriksen |
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| 14:07:58 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I'm trying to understand enough of it to add chroma decoding. No luck... |
| 14:08:26 | [IDC]Dragon | you probably want my testbed |
| 14:08:39 | amiconn | Haha, that's probably far too early |
| 14:09:19 | amiconn | It *seems* to me that chroma decoding itself can be added by removing the two if (ci == 0) conditionals |
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| 14:09:39 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, plus you need to store the data |
| 14:09:47 | amiconn | The question remains how the decoder is told where to store the data |
| 14:09:50 | [IDC]Dragon | and have the tables at hand |
| 14:10:10 | amiconn | The lines store_offs[p_jpeg->store_pos[0]] = 0; just look like gibberish |
| 14:10:38 | NicoFR | XavierGr: ok i'm sorry i really thought your patch didn't have the view chile playong code... didn't test it on files small enough ;-) |
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| 14:11:16 | XavierGr | NicoFR: At start it didn't have it, I added ;ater |
| 14:11:19 | XavierGr | ^later |
| 14:11:47 | NicoFR | well it's very nice :-D |
| 14:11:57 | NicoFR | only lacks color now ^^ |
| 14:12:52 | XavierGr | I will leave that to amiconn or [IDC]Dragon :) |
| 14:14:06 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: the store offset takes care of where to place the 4 luma pixel |
| 14:14:08 | amiconn | gRrRrRr |
| 14:15:03 | [IDC]Dragon | a problem with jpeg are the many possible color formats |
| 14:15:29 | [IDC]Dragon | they are unlimeted, it's just common practice to use yuv |
| 14:15:48 | amiconn | From what I gathered, jfif always means yuv |
| 14:15:50 | [IDC]Dragon | which can be 4:2:0, 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 |
| 14:16:29 | [IDC]Dragon | I can decode all of the above, the store offset helps with that |
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| 14:16:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I forgot b&w jpeg |
| 14:17:02 | amiconn | I think it's no problem to support all 4 variants for yuv->rgb conversion |
| 14:17:04 | [IDC]Dragon | which is also possible |
| 14:17:17 | amiconn | The bigger problem is to add the actual chroma decoding |
| 14:17:42 | [IDC]Dragon | no, the tools are all there |
| 14:18:06 | [IDC]Dragon | I found it more difficult to skip chroma ;-) |
| 14:18:49 | amiconn | Hmm :( |
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| 14:19:33 | XavierGr | amiconn why don't you let [IDC]Dragon do it? He seems quite confident! :) |
| 14:20:07 | [IDC]Dragon | well, I wrote it |
| 14:20:15 | XavierGr | exactly |
| 14:20:33 | [IDC]Dragon | or, stole it from IJG |
| 14:20:46 | NicoFR | [IDC]Dragon: someone over at MR said you already had the color decoding code, is that true ? |
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| 14:21:03 | preglow | amiconn: decoding chroma should be simple |
| 14:21:16 | preglow | amiconn: afaik, it's just the same as decoding luma, but with different quant and huffman tables |
| 14:21:20 | [IDC]Dragon | not exactly. It was a color decoder, but not streamlined enough |
| 14:21:32 | B4gder | Thou Shalt Not Believe Things You Read on Misticriver |
| 14:21:43 | preglow | amiconn: the remaining problem should then be supporting the fact chromo blocks may cover several luma blocks |
| 14:22:07 | amiconn | Hrrm. Now we have two people with the necessary knowledge, but no time, and one person having th etime but not enough knowledge :/ |
| 14:22:12 | NicoFR | B4gder: i try not to, but sometimes the temptation is too strong ;-) |
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| 14:22:17 | B4gder | hehe |
| 14:22:26 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe I'll look into it tonight |
| 14:22:42 | B4gder | NicoFR: use the force you must |
| 14:22:43 | [IDC]Dragon | you guys are too impatient to wait for devcon? |
| 14:22:44 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 14:22:48 | preglow | i'm stuffed with work for at least one week |
| 14:22:51 | linuxstb | amiconn: You need to offer to do preglow's day job for him... |
| 14:23:00 | preglow | oh, god |
| 14:23:03 | amiconn | preglow: I don't think this is a problem. Imho the best way would be to decode chroma as-is, and do the upsampling on-the-fly within yuv->rgb conversion for display |
| 14:23:05 | preglow | deal! deal! |
| 14:23:07 | amiconn | Saves RAM. |
| 14:23:09 | Febs | linuxstb, I don't know if this has been previously reported, but some iPod 4G users say that after installing Rockbox, their screen is reversed when using the Apple fw. |
| 14:23:19 | B4gder | one of the ipodfun.de guys wrote us and want to come to the devcon |
| 14:23:29 | preglow | amiconn: sounds like a bit of a memory waste, unless you want to do the drawing block by block |
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| 14:23:41 | [IDC]Dragon | ipodfun.de ? |
| 14:23:43 | Febs | That issue is reported here: http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160439&page=5 |
| 14:24:01 | B4gder | [IDC]Dragon: seems to be ipod community thing |
| 14:24:07 | B4gder | an ipod... |
| 14:24:09 | amiconn | preglow: Hmm? Afaiu yuv takes less space than rgb when chroma is subsampled |
| 14:24:13 | [IDC]Dragon | is he a developer? |
| 14:24:18 | B4gder | no |
| 14:24:30 | [IDC]Dragon | a tourist? |
| 14:24:32 | B4gder | more of a journalist kind |
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| 14:24:58 | preglow | amiconn: true enough... i'm braindead |
| 14:25:14 | amiconn | The conversion would be done at display time, i.e. just the actually visible part would be converted |
| 14:25:23 | linuxstb | Febs: Yes, I know about that. I think the solution will have to be to not enable the lcd in the bootloader for the 4g. |
| 14:25:43 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi is now coming for sure? |
| 14:25:46 | amiconn | It means that parts may be converted several times when scrolling around but I don't think this is a problem |
| 14:25:56 | B4gder | [IDC]Dragon: she has confirmed, yes |
| 14:26:09 | [IDC]Dragon | yay for the gender quota |
| 14:26:14 | B4gder | yeps |
| 14:26:41 | [IDC]Dragon | we can record a voice file at devcon |
| 14:26:43 | B4gder | percentage of our female developers coming to the devcon: 100% |
| 14:26:46 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 14:26:49 | Zagor | haha |
| 14:27:02 | preglow | hahah |
| 14:27:03 | amiconn | Should I put my arrival/departure times somewhere? |
| 14:27:14 | preglow | rockbox team combined voice file |
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| 14:27:45 | B4gder | amiconn: yes, at least in a mail to us ;-) |
| 14:27:48 | XavierGr | oh yes keep a footage of the meeting! |
| 14:28:00 | amiconn | I can bring my player as well if there's demand. I also have a spare HD |
| 14:28:15 | [IDC]Dragon | I have spare diskless players |
| 14:28:26 | B4gder | there's a webcam being fixed |
| 14:28:41 | B4gder | I'll run over before the event and make sure it works |
| 14:28:46 | [IDC]Dragon | then /me has to properly dress |
| 14:29:11 | Febs | I checked and there is no convenient/affordable way for me to get from Philadelphia to Stockholm on US Airways. :( |
| 14:29:13 | preglow | nah, you'll all be required to drop the pants |
| 14:29:15 | preglow | bagder insists |
| 14:29:29 | B4gder | hey, don't spoil the surprise |
| 14:29:30 | [IDC]Dragon | what kind of webcam is this? |
| 14:29:40 | B4gder | I'm not sure |
| 14:29:44 | Febs | (not that I could add much to the conference, but it would have been a great excuse to see Sweden.) |
| 14:31:46 | safetydan | Is there any criteria for themes that are included in CVS? |
| 14:32:17 | safetydan | s/Is/Are |
| 14:32:35 | B4gder | safetydan: not really, but I think we're aiming at having just a few quality ones for each lcd size |
| 14:33:22 | safetydan | I agree |
| 14:33:33 | safetydan | Should really include one that works with unifont though |
| 14:33:36 | Zagor | linuxstb: top-post? |
| 14:33:53 | Zagor | you mean the comment order? |
| 14:34:06 | B4gder | I think so |
| 14:34:07 | safetydan | I thought "top-post" meant putting the reply to an email above the quoted text |
| 14:34:08 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 14:34:19 | B4gder | like the SF mails add the notes in reverse-order |
| 14:34:42 | Zagor | right. i haven't actually tried the mails yet... :-) |
| 14:35:07 | LinusN | top-posting is the devil's invention |
| 14:35:17 | Zagor | i would be surprised if they are top-post though. it's such a silly idea. |
| 14:35:31 | B4gder | aegray: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. |
| 14:35:31 | B4gder | quobl: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? |
| 14:35:37 | B4gder | aaah |
| 14:35:44 | LinusN | B4gder: nice try |
| 14:35:44 | B4gder | paste crap |
| 14:36:04 | B4gder | the nick completion messed it up |
| 14:36:13 | B4gder | A: and Q: got expanded |
| 14:36:19 | B4gder | how silly |
| 14:36:32 | Zagor | flyspray has a cool feature: jabber notification. |
| 14:36:33 | LinusN | almost as silly as top-posting |
| 14:37:15 | B4gder | Zagor: we need to add a cia interface! http://cia.navi.cx/ |
| 14:37:26 | B4gder | (which has nothing to do with flyspray) |
| 14:37:26 | Zagor | I'm still in the sweating-at-the-thought-of-converting-sf-xml stage |
| 14:38:17 | Zagor | looks like a fun idea |
| 14:39:47 | muesli__ | why is that patch http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1401551&group_id=44306&atid=439120 not committed so far? |
| 14:40:12 | XavierGr | wow CIA has Gentoo and KDE |
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| 14:46:38 | Zoide777 | Ridiculous: (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/02/16/007257.shtml) |
| 14:48:57 | XavierGr | RIAA is always ridiculous |
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| 14:52:28 | safetydan | moo |
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| 15:01:27 | MarcoPolo | what's the status of this ? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagDatabase |
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| 15:04:44 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, working... sort of (don't think it works on iPod for example). Replacement (called tagcache) being worked on by Slasheri |
| 15:05:30 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: well, it seems to freeze the ipod when i go back from ShowFiles/Database to the file view |
| 15:06:11 | safetydan | probably a known issue |
| 15:06:31 | safetydan | IIRC it's an alignment issue with the data structure |
| 15:06:42 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: ie ? |
| 15:07:27 | safetydan | it's not likely to be fixed soon if a replacement is coming |
| 15:07:31 | linuxstb | MarcoPolo: I think you will just have to wait for the replacement database to be ready - no-one seems interested in maintaining the old one. |
| 15:07:50 | MarcoPolo | linuxstb: and is it possible to test tagcache ? |
| 15:08:04 | safetydan | I don't think Slasheri has made any patches yet |
| 15:08:37 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: ok, thanks for your answers ! |
| 15:08:56 | MarcoPolo | (it's the first time I use rockbox & I love rockbox, i'm just missing tag browsing) |
| 15:09:46 | safetydan | tag browsing is coming back, but like all hobby projects, things take a while :) |
| 15:09:52 | * | Zagor is still grumpy about having his code massacred and left for dead |
| 15:10:23 | * | safetydan wonders whatever happened to HCl |
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| 15:11:00 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: yeah sure. But, you know, I heard some time ago that's ipod 5G support could take months, and now i runs. So I believe wonders ;) |
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| 15:12:50 | linuxstb | MarcoPolo: That was luck. The 5g has turned out to be very similar to the older ipods. The warnings were because at that stage we didn't know if it was the same, or very different. |
| 15:12:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:13:14 | safetydan | Is there anyway to check for structure alignment issues without running it on target? |
| 15:13:20 | MarcoPolo | linuxstb: the display was different, isn't it ? |
| 15:13:44 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: you're looking at tagdatabase ;-) ? |
| 15:14:52 | linuxstb | MarcoPolo: Yes, but that was solved very quickly by the ipodlinux people - and it turns out their solution was better than they realised. |
| 15:15:08 | MarcoPolo | linuxstb: ok, that's really cool :-) |
| 15:15:13 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: so there *is* a working tag database? |
| 15:15:30 | linuxstb | There is a tag database. That's all I know. |
| 15:15:37 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, if it was easy fix, maybe :) |
| 15:15:53 | preglow | linuxstb: have they merged your changes? |
| 15:16:06 | Zoide777 | I've tested the tag database that comes w/ rockbox right now, and it seems to work ok... the problem for me is that it only supports mp3, so it's not particularly useful |
| 15:16:11 | preglow | linuxstb: how many fps do you get with starfield thingy? |
| 15:16:13 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes. And hyarion and almost finished incorporating them into idoom. |
| 15:16:27 | linuxstb | 33fps IIRC. |
| 15:16:29 | preglow | linuxstb: you can no similar changes for nano? :> |
| 15:16:36 | linuxstb | :) |
| 15:16:36 | preglow | insert "do" somewhere |
| 15:17:03 | linuxstb | That driver does need looking it - on my Color, it only manages about 72fps. The H300 manages 80. |
| 15:17:05 | safetydan | Zoide777, should also work with Ogg if you use the Java tool |
| 15:17:08 | linuxstb | s/it/at/ |
| 15:17:38 | Zoide777 | safetydan: sorry, you're right. but it doesn't support wavepack, right? a lot of my files are in wv... |
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| 15:18:05 | safetydan | no wv AFAIK |
| 15:18:34 | Zoide777 | ahh so no good for me yet |
| 15:18:42 | preglow | some pay slasheri to finish tagcahce |
| 15:18:44 | preglow | cache! |
| 15:19:06 | * | MarcoPolo gives 1000$ to slasheri |
| 15:19:37 | MarcoPolo | can i browse the cvs somewhere ? |
| 15:20:31 | safetydan | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/ |
| 15:20:39 | MarcoPolo | thanks ! |
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| 15:25:50 | MarcoPolo | have to go ! |
| 15:25:55 | MarcoPolo | thanks for your help ! |
| 15:26:24 | * | MarcoPolo gives 2000000 $ to slasheri |
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| 15:30:53 | linuxstb | Do .m3u playlists only contain the filename? Is there any convention for adding track names or other metadata? |
| 15:31:08 | Mikachu | amiconn: got it working in grayscale now |
| 15:31:13 | safetydan | AFAIK they're just a list of files |
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| 15:33:45 | preglow | linuxstb: they can contain more, yes, i think winamp does that |
| 15:33:58 | Mikachu | uh, who wrote ipod.c in bootloader/ and thought it was a good idea to use the same name for a variable and a function? |
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| 15:34:12 | markun | linuxstb: http://hanna.pyxidis.org/tech/m3u.html |
| 15:35:39 | safetydan | Seems like an odd thing to do in a play list file |
| 15:35:44 | safetydan | Mikachu, which part? |
| 15:36:15 | Mikachu | there is an int key_pressed in opto_keypad_read() which is called from key_pressed() |
| 15:36:19 | Mikachu | i was confused first, but it's okay now |
| 15:37:40 | safetydan | I'm surprised that doesn't generate a warning |
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| 15:39:05 | preglow | it should |
| 15:39:16 | preglow | unless you're in a windows simulator, i guess |
| 15:39:19 | preglow | no, even then |
| 15:39:21 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Maybe they are used for different targets |
| 15:39:35 | linuxstb | The person doing the 3g port added some code recently I think. |
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| 15:39:46 | Mikachu | no, both are for 4G |
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| 15:41:09 | linuxstb | Mikachu: It's just a local variable inside a function, and it's defined before the key_pressed() function - so it's perfectly unambiguous.... |
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| 15:41:40 | Mikachu | i guess so |
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| 15:41:43 | safetydan | true, but it's poor style |
| 15:41:44 | linuxstb | But I'll change key_pressed() to button_pressed() anyway :) |
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| 15:45:24 | linuxstb | markun: Thanks for the info. I'm considering the idea of exporting the contents of the itunesdb to .m3u playlists. But if the playlist files only contain filenames, it's not going to be that useful. |
| 15:45:38 | amiconn_ | linuxstb: The H300 achieves the 80fps at 45 MHz. What's the clock frequency you used to measure fps on iPod? |
| 15:45:52 | preglow | 75 |
| 15:45:53 | linuxstb | 75MHz. |
| 15:46:25 | linuxstb | Most of the time is the "finishup" delay. If I take that out, then the raw data transfer speed is 107fps. |
| 15:46:46 | linuxstb | But the lcd updates are glitchy. |
| 15:47:23 | Mikachu | the annoying thing about booting ipods is that when you move your finger, you seem to throw away the key event for the menu key |
| 15:47:42 | Mikachu | got colored plasma now at least :) |
| 15:47:44 | linuxstb | But as the lcd_update can yield() during the finishup, it doesn't affect audio playback. That's if I've understood things correctly. |
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| 15:49:21 | linuxstb | What would people think of a "Start Apple firmware" menu option in Rockbox? |
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| 15:49:36 | ripnetuk | linuxstb - ive been wanting that on iRiver for ages |
| 15:49:37 | Mikachu | is that possible? |
| 15:49:42 | LinusN | linuxstb: what a defeat |
| 15:49:46 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes, it's easy. |
| 15:49:51 | linuxstb | LinusN: Yes, it's easy |
| 15:49:57 | ripnetuk | while it cant play video, its needed innit? |
| 15:49:58 | Mikachu | 100% in favor |
| 15:50:22 | LinusN | booo, boooo, boooooo :-) |
| 15:50:30 | ripnetuk | which is why im here... do the recent commits to increase video framerate mean we are nearer video playback in rockbox? or is it just for the rvf files? |
| 15:50:47 | preglow | neither |
| 15:50:52 | preglow | and everything |
| 15:51:02 | LinusN | well put |
| 15:51:09 | preglow | agreed |
| 15:51:25 | preglow | we have no video stuff going on |
| 15:51:27 | ripnetuk | will we need to decode the mp4 vids in software, or does the broadcom chip handle decoding / help to handle decoding |
| 15:51:42 | preglow | and rvf files are impractical for anything but archoses |
| 15:51:42 | ripnetuk | brb |
| 15:51:58 | Mikachu | i want color jpeg first (just saying) |
| 15:52:01 | preglow | it usually handles decoding, yes, but we have no info on it |
| 15:53:20 | linuxstb | preglow: What's your opinion on a "Start original firmware" menu option? |
| 15:53:54 | preglow | well |
| 15:53:57 | preglow | does it even run? |
| 15:54:02 | preglow | i thought memory mapping tripped it over |
| 15:54:25 | linuxstb | I would implement it by writing a cookie to IRAM, and then rebooting. The bootloader would read the cookie and boot retailos. |
| 15:54:39 | preglow | you could also just map memory back, of course |
| 15:54:46 | preglow | but yeah, whatever, i'm sure people will use it |
| 15:55:38 | linuxstb | I can also see H300 owners liking it - if they want video playback, or even h1x0 owners with wma collections... But it somehow doesn't feel right. :( |
| 15:56:02 | Mikachu | i just want to use it to enter usb mode easier |
| 15:56:05 | preglow | i thought you onle meant for ipods |
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| 15:56:19 | preglow | i wouldn't like to defile the iriver bootloaders with anything like this |
| 15:56:29 | preglow | so i'm against it there |
| 15:56:45 | Mikachu | hooray, color cycling plasma |
| 15:56:46 | safetydan | wow, someone's unhappy that rockdoom doesn't load PC Doom saves |
| 15:57:06 | linuxstb | Quite right too. Give them their money back. |
| 15:57:31 | crwl | but where's my rockdoom for h100? :P |
| 15:57:41 | linuxstb | iDoom is looking nice on the 5g - we need rockdoom as well. |
| 15:58:02 | Lynx_ | i just want doom 3 to run. ;) |
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| 15:58:16 | crwl | ipod 5g has better screen resolution than original doom had :) |
| 15:58:52 | linuxstb | Rockboy also works, and it takes up about a quarter of the screen... |
| 15:58:52 | Philip_0729 | ??? 320x240 isn't that the same |
| 15:59:22 | amiconn | original doom is 320x200 |
| 15:59:28 | Philip_0729 | oh |
| 15:59:45 | safetydan | Someone mentions wanting MAME to run as well |
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| 16:00:05 | safetydan | those poor little DAPs, expected to do so much... |
| 16:00:28 | Philip_0729 | on my PC is goes up to an incredible 640x480 on the official re-release of the game for win 95 |
| 16:00:32 | Mikachu | i want nsf and spc and gym playback and and and |
| 16:00:41 | preglow | linuxstb: it'll bloody well run at its original resolution on the 5g |
| 16:00:46 | preglow | linuxstb: with 40 pixels to spare |
| 16:00:59 | linuxstb | :) |
| 16:01:17 | preglow | oh, amiconn mentioned it |
| 16:01:18 | * | preglow goes away |
| 16:01:23 | amiconn | linuxstb: What's the greyscale iPod's default contrast? |
| 16:01:26 | crwl | on my PC doom goes up to 1920x1080, mut it looks pretty horrible on my monitor :P |
| 16:01:35 | crwl | or at least flickery... |
| 16:01:46 | amiconn | lcd-2bit-horz makes lcd_default_contrast() return 40 ... |
| 16:01:47 | Philip_0729 | :) sit further away ;) |
| 16:03:04 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes. The actual hardware value is 0..127, but I think everything under 64 is invisible, so I kept the Archos scale of 0..63 and add 64 to it in set_contrast. |
| 16:03:05 | Mikachu | hm, the apple os reboots automatically if you write to the boot sector thing... |
| 16:03:14 | Mikachu | so if i write there i don't have to hold menu+play 5 seconds |
| 16:03:26 | amiconn | linuxstb: Ah. |
| 16:03:27 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes, I believe a write to the first 32MB causes an automatic reboot. |
| 16:04:03 | linuxstb | amiconn: But this was all guesswork... It could well contain mistakes, but no-one's reported any bugs relating to contrast. |
| 16:04:17 | Mikachu | hahaha |
| 16:04:28 | Mikachu | i just did a hexdump of /dev/sda1 |
| 16:04:36 | linuxstb | STOP! |
| 16:04:40 | Mikachu | so funny |
| 16:04:58 | Mikachu | did they or you put it there? |
| 16:05:12 | linuxstb | That's a nice message from Apple. |
| 16:05:38 | Zagor | what is it? |
| 16:05:40 | Philip_0729 | ??? what does it say |
| 16:05:41 | Mikachu | so if i do echo \{ > /dev/sda1, everything should be fine |
| 16:05:48 | Mikachu | can i paste it here? it's 7 or 8 lines |
| 16:06:03 | Zagor | Mikachu: writing to sd1 is not a good idea... |
| 16:06:32 | Mikachu | ah, it works |
| 16:06:37 | Mikachu | great timesaver |
| 16:06:50 | Zagor | Mikachu: sure, paste it |
| 16:06:56 | Zagor | i'm curious :-) |
| 16:07:11 | Mikachu | {{~~ /−−−−-\ |
| 16:07:11 | Mikachu | {{~~ / \ |
| 16:07:11 | Mikachu | {{~~| | |
| 16:07:11 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Mikachu |
| 16:07:11 | Mikachu | {{~~| S T O P | |
| 16:07:11 | Mikachu | {{~~| | |
| 16:07:14 | Mikachu | {{~~ \ / |
| 16:07:16 | Mikachu | {{~~ \−−−−-/ |
| 16:07:19 | Mikachu | Copyright(C) 200 |
| 16:07:21 | Mikachu | 1 Apple Computer |
| 16:07:24 | Mikachu | , Inc.−−−−−−−−−− |
| 16:07:43 | Zagor | haha |
| 16:07:46 | Mikachu | i'm impressed they aligned it to 16 bytes too |
| 16:07:46 | safetydan | I'm surprised the dogcow isn't in there |
| 16:08:05 | ender | is that real? |
| 16:08:25 | Mikachu | i didn't make it up |
| 16:08:28 | amiconn | Hmm.... |
| 16:08:56 | amiconn | It seems the author of lcd-2bit-horz.c had some good ideas for speed, and at the same time did some silly things as well... |
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| 16:09:19 | LinusN | sounds like the entire rockbox dev community |
| 16:09:35 | linuxstb | "work in progress"... |
| 16:09:47 | amiconn | I'll try and create best-of-both for lcd-h100.c and lcd-2bit-horz.c |
| 16:10:32 | Zoide777 | amiconn: AWESOME |
| 16:11:17 | amiconn | Perhaps I should split lcd-h100.c as well |
| 16:11:48 | ender | btw, who resized the H120 image that's on the daily builds page? |
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| 16:13:49 | jackinabox^ | guys, MAJOR emergency, someone please pm me i think i just bricked my H340!! |
| 16:14:07 | Bg3r | jackinabox^ ask here |
| 16:14:11 | Philip_0729 | have you tried the reset button |
| 16:15:33 | jackinabox^ | i tried installing RB, i updated the f/ware with the patch and copied it to the root directory of the H340, i then did the f/ware upgrade as per the site instructions |
| 16:15:40 | Zoide777 | amiconn: oh, wait, does that mean it will only improve for h-100 or will it also improve for 4g grayscale? |
| 16:15:47 | amiconn | Both |
| 16:15:53 | Zoide777 | nice :) |
| 16:16:02 | linuxstb | Mikachu: You probably want to do "echo -n \{ > /dev/sda1" or else you will write a newline |
| 16:16:04 | Philip_0729 | have you installed a daily build onto the hdd |
| 16:16:27 | jackinabox^ | then, when i tried to install the daily build, i couldn't get past the bootloader screen |
| 16:16:33 | Philip_0729 | is it off at the moment |
| 16:16:51 | jackinabox^ | it's connected to the usb |
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| 16:17:20 | jackinabox^ | with msg "bootloader usb mode" on the screen |
| 16:17:48 | Philip_0729 | have you downloaded the .rockbox directory and rockbox.iriver files from this site : http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 16:18:11 | jackinabox^ | i just want to uninstall it and reflash to old 1.29 f/ware |
| 16:18:25 | Philip_0729 | have you? |
| 16:19:13 | ripnetuk | jack - have you tried booting while holding down the rec button? |
| 16:19:14 | Philip_0729 | you need the bootloader which you have done already now is the easy part of just unzipping a directory to the irivers HDD |
| 16:19:30 | ripnetuk | that should boot the original iriver fw |
| 16:19:31 | jackinabox^ | i don't think i had the .rockbox directory but i did d/load the dail build |
| 16:19:37 | ripnetuk | (if its the same as H140) |
| 16:20:19 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 16:20:49 | Philip_0729 | hmm did you unzipp the daily build onto the root of the iriver ie where MUSIC, RECORD, PCTURE, etc folders are?? |
| 16:20:55 | jackinabox^ | so do i send the zip file to the 340 and then unzip it in the root directory? |
| 16:21:01 | Philip_0729 | yes |
| 16:21:31 | jackinabox^ | ok, i unzippedrst, could be my mistake |
| 16:21:45 | jackinabox^ | unzipped first * |
| 16:22:48 | Philip_0729 | you should have now have a file called rockbox.iriver in the root of your H300 and a .rockbox directory |
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| 16:24:28 | jackinabox^ | yep and i still have the .zip in there |
| 16:25:00 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-plasma-color.patch if someone wants to play |
| 16:25:10 | Philip_0729 | now if you safely disconnect your player it should boot rockbox |
| 16:25:18 | Mikachu | linuxstb: oh, i meant to say -n too of course |
| 16:25:20 | jackinabox^ | cool |
| 16:25:21 | Mikachu | linuxstb: thanks :) |
| 16:25:38 | Jungti1234 | Mikachu: What's that? |
| 16:25:50 | Mikachu | Jungti1234: color support for the plasma plugin |
| 16:25:58 | Jungti1234 | ah.. |
| 16:26:06 | | Part G2_vincent |
| 16:26:28 | jackinabox^ | nope, still cutting out!!! |
| 16:26:46 | Jungti1234 | I want to make basic plugin.... |
| 16:27:13 | Jungti1234 | My ability that don't make basic plugin.. |
| 16:27:57 | safetydan | jackinabox^, what do you mean "cutting out"? |
| 16:28:06 | Jungti1234 | hm.. bye all |
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| 16:28:42 | jackinabox^ | as in switching off spontaneously |
| 16:28:51 | safetydan | Battery is charged? |
| 16:29:04 | Philip_0729 | hmm... you definatly have the .rockbox directory in the root not in a folder, as in /.rockbox not /rockbox/.rockbox because this could happen depending on how you unzip files |
| 16:29:06 | safetydan | What if you boot to the iRiver firmware? |
| 16:29:27 | jackinabox^ | i've just connected the charger ut it had enough battery before |
| 16:29:34 | amiconn | Hmmmmmm.... |
| 16:29:41 | amiconn | iPod 4-grey seem to pack the bits lsb->msb, while the archos player gfx library uses the opposite order. Seems another mono format is due... |
| 16:30:19 | Mikachu | do i need to prod someone about patches i add to the tracker or should i just be patient? |
| 16:30:26 | safetydan | jackinabox^, Does the original iRiver firmware boot? |
| 16:30:33 | safetydan | Mikachu, patience grasshopper |
| 16:31:42 | preglow | safetydan: plus some additional prodding |
| 16:31:50 | safetydan | prodding is good too |
| 16:33:39 | jackinabox^ | safetydan: yea just disconnected the usb and both the music and video SEEM to be working fine |
| 16:33:44 | jackinabox^ | thank christ |
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| 16:34:15 | safetydan | jackinabox^, So what exactly are you doing when you boot rockbox? You're not trying to boot it with the USB cable connected are you? |
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| 16:35:54 | jackinabox^ | no |
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| 16:36:51 | jackinabox^ | i'm just booting in the normal way, ie pressing play/pause and it turns on and off |
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| 16:37:24 | safetydan | So it just switches off while running rockbox? |
| 16:38:15 | jackinabox^ | well how do u mean running rb? i've just installed it in the root directory, i don't know how to choose between it and iriver |
| 16:38:52 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Have you installed the cross-compilers for the other Rockbox targets? i.e. m68k and sh-1 ? |
| 16:39:02 | safetydan | jackinabox^, have you installed the bootloader? |
| 16:39:10 | jackinabox^ | yep |
| 16:39:44 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I'm just testing plasma on my 5g - it's looking nice. Is fire next? |
| 16:40:13 | safetydan | jackinabox^, if the charger is plugged in, I think the bootloader will default to booting the iRiver firmware |
| 16:40:23 | safetydan | otherwise it should boot straight in to rockbox |
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| 16:40:43 | Mikachu | linuxstb: there is a fire? |
| 16:40:55 | jackinabox^ | when the charger is connected it won't boot at all |
| 16:40:55 | Mikachu | linuxstb: no, i had an arm chain lying around from my gameboy advance i think |
| 16:42:13 | linuxstb | Mikachu: It's just that if you're going to be submitting lots of patches, it's a good idea to at least compile them for other targets, to make sure you don't accidentally break them. |
| 16:42:19 | preglow | who made fire? |
| 16:42:23 | jackinabox^ | i lied actually, it will boot, i just need to hold record as well |
| 16:42:32 | linuxstb | preglow: man made fire |
| 16:42:39 | preglow | who made man? |
| 16:43:08 | linuxstb | man just crawled out of the sea |
| 16:43:23 | preglow | lucky for him |
| 16:43:26 | preglow | but yeah |
| 16:43:31 | preglow | i think fire needs some brushing up |
| 16:43:34 | preglow | it doesn't look very good |
| 16:43:46 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i'm usually careful to not break things i think |
| 16:43:52 | jackinabox^ | bernard fanning rocks!! |
| 16:44:32 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I think I'll commit your plasma fix. What's your real name (for the CREDITS file, unless you are there). |
| 16:44:38 | Mikachu | Mikael Magnusson |
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| 16:45:51 | Mikachu | i think the shutdown fix is also a good patch |
| 16:46:25 | linuxstb | I've just noticed you've only defined a PLASMA_REGEN_COLORS button for the ipod - not the other targets. |
| 16:46:35 | Mikachu | yeah, i wrote that in my comment too |
| 16:47:12 | Mikachu | i don't know which buttons are generic |
| 16:47:17 | linuxstb | What comment? |
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| 16:47:28 | Mikachu | in the patch tracker |
| 16:47:30 | linuxstb | Ah, it's on the patch tracker now... |
| 16:47:53 | Mikachu | sorry, forgot i pasted it locally |
| 16:48:29 | Mikachu | are there 4G ipods without color? |
| 16:48:58 | linuxstb | Any h300 users around? Which button should be assigned in plasma to re-randomise the colours? Currently only up/down and OFF are used. |
| 16:49:05 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes. |
| 16:49:24 | Mikachu | okay, then the binds in fire.c are not crazy |
| 16:49:38 | linuxstb | Also the #ifdef around the button check should be HAVE_LCD_COLOR |
| 16:50:03 | Mikachu | hm, i probably meant to have both |
| 16:50:19 | safetydan | linuxstb, probably NAVI (BUTTON_SELECT) |
| 16:50:25 | linuxstb | case (PLASMA_REGEN_COLORS) |
| 16:50:26 | safetydan | It should be the same for the H100 as well |
| 16:50:37 | safetydan | if it had colors that is |
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| 16:57:25 | Mikachu | is the fire plugin pretty slow looking on purpose? |
| 16:57:59 | Mikachu | oh oops, i added lcd_update inside the for loop :P |
| 16:59:37 | Mikachu | that's better |
| 16:59:37 | jackinabox^ | ok, i seem to have sussed it all out FINALLY thanx guys |
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| 17:04:23 | jackinabox^ | one question...how can u tell if u're in the iriver or rb f/ware?? they look the same to me |
| 17:04:36 | t0mas | :D |
| 17:04:38 | t0mas | 17:04 |
| 17:04:40 | t0mas | time to go home |
| 17:04:59 | t0mas | Bagder: I just killed the buildscript... it was hanging for 45 minutes on the last build |
| 17:05:09 | t0mas | must be something wrong... so I added a simple form of error logging |
| 17:05:19 | t0mas | lets see what it does with the next change |
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| 17:07:36 | safetydan | jackinabox^, uhh... by default the Rockbox firmware should look pretty different from the iRiver firmware |
| 17:07:43 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Your plasma patch is in CVS now, thanks. |
| 17:07:52 | Mikachu | hooray |
| 17:07:53 | safetydan | For a start you should see a Rockbox splash screen at boot |
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| 17:12:02 | jackinabox^ | ok |
| 17:12:57 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 17:14:46 | jackinabox^ | hmmm, back to the old problem, it's switching off as it attempts to boot in RB |
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| 17:15:45 | safetydan | jackinabox^, you're certain there is a rockbox.iriver file in the root of your filesystem? |
| 17:15:49 | safetydan | and a .rockbox folder? |
| 17:16:10 | imphasing | linuxstb: Any new changes? |
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| 17:18:20 | jackinabox^ | there is a rb h300 directory and that contains the rb.iriver yes....the only other thing it can be is i still have the .zip file in the root directory |
| 17:18:45 | Mikachu | i am almost certain you want rockbox.iriver in / |
| 17:19:39 | jackinabox^ | u need rb.iriver in the root, not a folder?? |
| 17:19:47 | Mikachu | yes |
| 17:19:55 | Mikachu | i think so |
| 17:20:17 | linuxstb | imphasing: No, nothing new. |
| 17:20:23 | jackinabox^ | ok, i'll try that |
| 17:20:48 | safetydan | Yes rockbox.irver and .rockbox must be / |
| 17:20:59 | safetydan | be in |
| 17:21:06 | linuxstb | jackinabox^: Are you using winzip? |
| 17:21:14 | jackinabox^ | yep |
| 17:21:55 | linuxstb | Just download rockbox.zip (to anywhere), right-click on it, select "Extract to", and then select the top-level (root) folder in your iriver. |
| 17:23:07 | imphasing | make zip |
| 17:23:11 | imphasing | er.. |
| 17:23:13 | imphasing | wrong window. |
| 17:23:14 | imphasing | :D |
| 17:23:18 | linuxstb | OK, just a moment...... |
| 17:23:20 | Mikachu | make: *** No rule to make target `zip'. Stop. |
| 17:23:23 | linuxstb | hehe |
| 17:23:56 | jackinabox^ | comes up with "no rockbox directory, installation incomplete" and then it turns off |
| 17:24:27 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 17:24:27 | * | imphasing is trying out his own lcd driver |
| 17:24:47 | linuxstb | imphasing: What are you trying? |
| 17:24:49 | safetydan | jackinabox^, means you are still missing the .rockbox directory |
| 17:25:05 | safetydan | jackinabox^, it must be in the top level as well |
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| 17:25:34 | imphasing | Well that slowed it down a little.. |
| 17:25:46 | imphasing | I'm hainv git write more pizels per colum |
| 17:26:10 | imphasing | er, "having it" |
| 17:27:17 | jackinabox^ | got it!! |
| 17:27:17 | linuxstb | If you're keen, you could rewrite the main loop inside lcd_update_rect() in assembler. |
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| 17:27:24 | jackinabox^ | thanx boys |
| 17:27:28 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 17:27:29 | imphasing | Yeah, I was thinking of doing that. |
| 17:27:35 | imphasing | It would make it a lot faster I bet. |
| 17:27:54 | linuxstb | I don't think it would be a _lot_ faster, but you could probably squeeze a few more fps out of it. |
| 17:28:27 | imphasing | I'm just playing around with it now to see how it works. It seems fairly simple actually.. |
| 17:28:31 | Mikachu | maybe you can compile some parts of the code with higher -O without breaking everything |
| 17:28:32 | linuxstb | It was the communication with the bcm that was slow, and I think that's now been minimised as much as possible. |
| 17:28:37 | imphasing | yeah.. |
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| 17:29:00 | Jungti1234 | Does Rockbox recording have problem? |
| 17:29:06 | imphasing | Maybe I'll start searching through retailos dumps in search of some ARC instructions.. |
| 17:29:34 | Jungti1234 | Main board by heat that it is serious burnt. |
| 17:30:12 | Zoide777 | imphasing: are you working on a driver for a specific dap or one that works for several? |
| 17:30:33 | Jungti1234 | Don't anyone know? |
| 17:30:37 | imphasing | I'm just working on trying to get the ipod 5G's lcd update to be faster. |
| 17:30:42 | josh_ | linuxstb: I've already rewritten it in assembly :-) |
| 17:30:52 | linuxstb | Any improvement? |
| 17:30:52 | imphasing | :) |
| 17:31:00 | josh_ | check out tools/hotdog/hotdog_ops.S from ipodlinux's SVN, look at _HD_ARM_Update5G func. |
| 17:31:05 | josh_ | haven't tried it yet |
| 17:31:23 | jackinabox^ | cool, now i just have to learn to drive the bastard!! |
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| 17:31:42 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 17:31:54 | Jungti1234 | mainboard burnt~~ mainboard burnt~~ |
| 17:31:56 | Mikachu | where is the ipl svn? |
| 17:31:57 | imphasing | I can get 91 fps if I only have it update one pixel per column per loop, but OMG it looks horrible. |
| 17:33:14 | amiconn | Optimsed lcd-2bit-horz lcd_bitmap_part() needs more thinking than I did think initially |
| 17:33:19 | Jungti1234 | hmmmmm |
| 17:33:23 | Jungti1234 | ok... |
| 17:33:24 | amiconn | Still manageable though |
| 17:33:44 | Jungti1234 | Was I ignored? |
| 17:34:06 | linuxstb | josh_: The address register is auto-incrementing, so you should be able to optimise the setup_rect part of the code to just write the first address, followed by n values. |
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| 17:36:43 | amiconn | linuxstb: iPod 3g and 4g grayscale have the same lcd format? |
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| 17:37:03 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes. |
| 17:38:16 | linuxstb | The only difference in the drivers are the init code and register addresses. |
| 17:38:32 | safetydan | I wonder how annoyed people would be if I changed the EQ settings file layout |
| 17:39:25 | imphasing | linuxstb: Did you change the 5G driver function at all from iPL, or did it work stock with rockbox? |
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| 17:40:31 | safetydan | Is it just me, or is there very little sanity checking of settings read in via the .cfg files? |
| 17:42:40 | linuxstb | safetydan: I believe that's because they are not designed to be edited by humans |
| 17:43:09 | linuxstb | But of course, a broken cfg file shouldn't break rockbox |
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| 17:43:26 | safetydan | There's a lot effort made to make them human readable though |
| 17:43:32 | safetydan | Including adding comments |
| 17:43:58 | linuxstb | imphasing: Are you going to try josh's assembler routine in Rockbox? |
| 17:44:29 | imphasing | Yeah. |
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| 17:45:01 | imphasing | In your driver, the fb is lcd_framebuffer[y][x]? |
| 17:45:13 | imphasing | I guess jsut lcd_framebuffer would work |
| 17:45:39 | jackinabox^ | ok, now shuffle...it seems that it only shuffles a nominated directory, despite my having selected "Shuffle: All Songs" |
| 17:45:57 | hardeep | safetydan: what sanity checking are you referring to? |
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| 17:46:16 | safetydan | jackinabox^, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ#How_do_I_shuffle_all_files_on_th |
| 17:46:28 | safetydan | hardeep, range of permitted values for instance. |
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| 17:46:33 | imphasing | Can I just shove a new file into my drivers dir (josh's update function) and the build system will link it in? |
| 17:46:41 | imphasing | Or do I need to do some makefile editing? |
| 17:46:44 | linuxstb | You need to add it to firmware/SOURCES |
| 17:46:55 | linuxstb | Look for lcd-ipodvideo.c, and add it next to that. |
| 17:46:58 | imphasing | ok |
| 17:47:04 | imphasing | I already have it in there |
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| 17:47:37 | hardeep | safetydan: yeah, that info isn't stored in the config structure |
| 17:47:57 | linuxstb | You should just be able to make lcd_update_rect() call _HD_ARM_Update5G(lcd_framebuffer,x,y,width,height); |
| 17:48:24 | jackinabox^ | cheers safetydan; didn't think to check the FAQ :) |
| 17:48:25 | safetydan | hardeep, guess it doesn't matter for most values. I was just going to start clamping values for the EQ but noticed no other part of the system seems to do that. |
| 17:48:54 | safetydan | jackinabox^, you'd be surprised how often that quesion is asked :) |
| 17:50:25 | amiconn | Uh-oh |
| 17:50:36 | * | amiconn found an old bug in lcd-h100.c |
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| 17:51:08 | imphasing | Do I have to edit the makefile too? |
| 17:51:18 | imphasing | Becuase it's telling me there's no rule to make that file |
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| 17:52:23 | amiconn | Rather nasty one. I wonder why this worked at all.... |
| 17:54:02 | amiconn | lcd_bitmap_part() isn't supposed to use drawmodes at all. But it does... |
| 17:54:12 | amiconn | ...in an unpredictable way |
| 17:54:32 | linuxstb | imphasing: What filename did you give it? |
| 17:55:29 | imphasing | HD_ARM_Update5G.s |
| 17:55:41 | imphasing | Might want to change that |
| 17:55:53 | amiconn | Use .S (upper case) |
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| 17:57:33 | imphasing | I changed it to asn-update5G.S, and it still complains there's no rule |
| 17:57:57 | imphasing | er, s/asn/asm/ |
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| 17:59:04 | linuxstb_ | imphasing: You can always just add it (using #ifdef CONFIG_CPU == LCD_IPODVIDEO) to firmware/drivers/lcd.S |
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| 17:59:26 | imphasing | Ah, there was a typo in the SOURCES file |
| 17:59:27 | imphasing | :D |
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| 18:01:04 | imphasing | Arg, assembler error.. |
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| 18:05:21 | imphasing | ah... |
| 18:05:22 | imphasing | hahaha |
| 18:10:58 | jackinabox^ | cool, i have the bare basics down (including switching between the IR and RB f/ware) now just need to learn to queue multiple songs in RB but can do that tomorrow |
| 18:12:07 | muesli__ | would be great to commit this patch to get the h300 lcd remote working http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1401551&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
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| 18:15:52 | imphasing | Cool, now the driver doesn't work at all |
| 18:15:53 | imphasing | :P |
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| 18:30:38 | amiconn | Hmm, no safetydan around |
| 18:31:00 | imphasing | I can do the safetydance though |
| 18:31:02 | amiconn | The sdl sim has problems with backlight simulation on the iriver remote |
| 18:31:05 | imphasing | That could help/ |
| 18:32:34 | linuxstb | imphasing: Any luck with the lcd driver? |
| 18:32:43 | imphasing | heh.. |
| 18:32:45 | imphasing | not really. |
| 18:32:53 | imphasing | I'm not 100% sure how the asm function works |
| 18:32:53 | linuxstb | I'm just trying it now as well. |
| 18:33:20 | imphasing | I think the fb it asks for is just like src in the main driver update function |
| 18:33:28 | linuxstb | Yes, I think it is. |
| 18:33:54 | imphasing | I got rid of everything in that function besides that, and just stuck the function call in, using src for the fb, and xy,y,width,height for the other args |
| 18:33:58 | imphasing | and it just froze |
| 18:33:59 | imphasing | :) |
| 18:34:44 | linuxstb | Yes, it's not looking good at the moment... |
| 18:34:59 | aegray | what are you working on? |
| 18:35:20 | linuxstb | josh wrote an asm lcd update routine for the 5g, so we're trying it in Rockbox. |
| 18:35:34 | linuxstb | But I don't think he's tested it on a real device yet. |
| 18:35:38 | aegray | haha no he didn't |
| 18:35:41 | imphasing | heh |
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| 18:40:04 | imphasing | I might just "wait" until josh gets that sorted out before I try it again |
| 18:40:06 | imphasing | :) |
| 18:40:53 | linuxstb | I agree, we can let him debug it first... |
| 18:42:10 | Mikachu | i can't quite get the fire plugin to make sense |
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| 18:43:05 | Mikachu | here's what i got so far, http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-fire-color.patch |
| 18:43:20 | Mikachu | stole the Incandescent color ramp from the gimp |
| 18:44:51 | josh_ | linuxstb: yep, I accidentally reused a local label |
| 18:44:57 | josh_ | (the 1: in the bcm finishup loop) |
| 18:45:03 | josh_ | I'm testing it now, I'll commit my changes when it works. |
| 18:45:04 | imphasing | Yeah, I figured that one out |
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| 18:53:36 | josh_ | erm, it's still freezing. I'll be back in ~1h30. |
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| 19:02:12 | safetydan | amiconn, SDL sim remote backlight issues? |
| 19:02:36 | amiconn | yes |
| 19:03:02 | amiconn | (1) the dark color isn't black as long as the remote backlight is on |
| 19:03:23 | amiconn | (2) When the remote backlight goes off, the remote lcd isn't refreshed |
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| 19:03:38 | amiconn | Only the next lcd_remote_update() will show the change |
| 19:04:15 | safetydan | 2 is easy to fix |
| 19:04:23 | amiconn | In fact black is never black, regardless of whether the remote backlight is on |
| 19:04:46 | safetydan | 1 is probably the gradient function not doing so well on a 1 bit display |
| 19:05:06 | amiconn | The gradient function must be different for main & remote |
| 19:05:26 | safetydan | no, should be the same |
| 19:05:57 | safetydan | sdl_set_gradient in lcd-sdl.c |
| 19:06:06 | jackinabox^ | ok boys, i'm off like a bride's nightie |
| 19:06:24 | amiconn | The function might be the same, but the range of colour indices it works on needs to be different |
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| 19:07:40 | jackinabox^ | thank you sooo much for your help and tolerating my sheer stupidity :) |
| 19:08:01 | Mikachu | you're welcome |
| 19:09:25 | jackinabox^ | take care and i shall no doubt see you in here again soon |
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| 19:34:01 | Zoide777 | amiconn: any luck w/ the 4g grayscale display? |
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| 19:48:45 | boza111 | hi |
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| 19:51:10 | yeahx | hi |
| 19:52:03 | boza111 | hi |
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| 19:52:24 | boza111 | i have a question , is the rockbox port on ipods any good |
| 19:52:28 | imphasing | sure |
| 19:52:47 | boza111 | lol ,,, well ofcourse |
| 19:52:49 | yeahx | it works on my nano so I guess so |
| 19:52:56 | imphasing | works on my 5G just fine |
| 19:53:05 | boza111 | does it work on 5g ?? |
| 19:53:16 | boza111 | with the graphics chip |
| 19:53:17 | boza111 | ??? |
| 19:53:39 | imphasing | no.. |
| 19:53:43 | imphasing | it works thoughy |
| 19:53:51 | imphasing | I get about 50fps on the lcd |
| 19:54:01 | boza111 | oh thats pretty good |
| 19:54:06 | boza111 | well damm good :p |
| 19:54:18 | imphasing | :) |
| 19:54:42 | boza111 | its going to be hard getting the ipod to talk to the GPU |
| 19:54:58 | imphasing | especially since we don't know the instruction set |
| 19:54:59 | safetydan | amiconn, those two issues with the sim should be fixed now |
| 19:55:28 | boza111 | yea ,,, no one knows them , the company who made the chip wouldnt tell any one |
| 19:55:34 | Mikachu | just send random instructions and note when something happens + infinite monkeys etc |
| 19:56:33 | boza111 | for the 4g ipod photo with the new lcd , they didnt quite know the instructions set . But then they found a mobile phone i think that had a similiar lcd |
| 19:56:42 | preglow | imphasing: if it's arc, that info shouldn't be hard to get |
| 19:57:54 | boza111 | i know its a silly thing to ask , is rockbox better then ipodlinux |
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| 19:58:19 | Mikachu | for playing music yeah |
| 19:58:28 | imphasing | preglow: Really? |
| 19:58:28 | imphasing | =/. |
| 19:58:48 | preglow | well, i guess so |
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| 19:58:59 | boza111 | Mikachu: You know on the 3g the processor is a lot slower then on the other ipods |
| 19:59:00 | preglow | depends if they've extended it much |
| 19:59:09 | safetydan | Could we nick a picture of the iPod Video from Apple's site for the sim? |
| 19:59:10 | preglow | no, the cache is slower |
| 19:59:30 | boza111 | well yea 1 cache is broken ,, which makes it slower |
| 19:59:31 | preglow | safetydan: not unless they say they allow you to use it |
| 19:59:47 | boza111 | will rockbox still play music fine though |
| 19:59:53 | boza111 | on 3g |
| 19:59:57 | preglow | god knows |
| 19:59:57 | safetydan | Did someone do that for the nano background since that looks very similar to the one on Apple's site? |
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| 20:00:35 | boza111 | has anyone got a 3g |
| 20:02:02 | yeahx | I did, gave it to my friend next door |
| 20:02:07 | preglow | it'll probably struggle a good deal |
| 20:02:39 | boza111 | yeahx : did you try to run rockbox on it. And what did the music on it sound like. Did it lag ? |
| 20:03:04 | yeahx | nope, didnt know about it |
| 20:03:15 | boza111 | oh ok |
| 20:03:50 | imphasing | If anyone cares, I took a video of rockbox on my 5G |
| 20:03:51 | boza111 | i'm wondering . if music does run in realtime, why doesnt rockbox give the code to IpodLinux |
| 20:03:55 | imphasing | that screensaver deailie |
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| 20:04:14 | boza111 | imphasing : lets have a link |
| 20:04:21 | imphasing | still transcoding |
| 20:04:22 | imphasing | :P |
| 20:04:31 | boza111 | oh ok |
| 20:05:13 | boza111 | i think rockbox and IPL should work together . Why cant we all just be brothers :D |
| 20:05:35 | yeahx | they do |
| 20:05:36 | safetydan | boza111, they do work together, just IPL has more overhead running Linux and all |
| 20:05:47 | muesli__ | whats ipl btw? |
| 20:05:58 | safetydan | iPodLinux |
| 20:06:02 | muesli__ | mk |
| 20:06:17 | boza111 | safetydan: oh i didnt know that |
| 20:06:31 | boza111 | whats btw , btw |
| 20:06:36 | boza111 | only joking |
| 20:06:51 | muesli__ | ;) |
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| 20:07:34 | boza111 | imphasing : still transcoding ? |
| 20:11:21 | preglow | boza111: how'd you think our ipod port came along so fast? it's all ipl code |
| 20:11:49 | yeahx | when did rockbox for ipod start? |
| 20:12:01 | * | safetydan wonders what to do with all the iPod video screen real estate... |
| 20:12:02 | yeahx | its still very new right? |
| 20:12:06 | preglow | yeah |
| 20:12:22 | preglow | i don't know when it started, linuxstb worked alone one it for a good while |
| 20:12:30 | BHSPitLappy | safetydan: small desktop and mouse emulation :P |
| 20:12:39 | yeahx | I havent seen any nano changes, wonder if I should update anyway? |
| 20:13:03 | BHSPitLappy | yeah |
| 20:13:18 | BHSPitLappy | most of the updates are global |
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| 20:13:52 | linuxstb | I guess the official start of the port was when I bought my ipod - the end of September. |
| 20:14:31 | boza111 | what kinda stuff can rockbox do on ipods |
| 20:14:40 | yeahx | play music |
| 20:14:53 | boza111 | lol |
| 20:14:58 | Mikachu | do the plasma effect in color |
| 20:15:02 | boza111 | i mean other features |
| 20:15:05 | linuxstb | Seriously - it's main aim is to play music. |
| 20:15:11 | Mikachu | its |
| 20:15:27 | boza111 | oh cool |
| 20:15:42 | linuxstb | But there are toys such as a gameboy emulator and other games. Doom is on the way. |
| 20:15:44 | boza111 | so does it incaporate stuff like ogg, wma |
| 20:16:07 | lostlogic | boza111: read wiki. |
| 20:16:09 | imphasing | imphasing.myvnc.com/ipod5g.mov">http://imphasing.myvnc.com/ipod5g.mov |
| 20:16:11 | imphasing | there we go |
| 20:16:13 | imphasing | :) |
| 20:16:23 | boza111 | oh ok i will lostlogic |
| 20:16:28 | preglow | _MOV_ |
| 20:16:31 | linuxstb | imphasing: Hope that's some good PR material... |
| 20:16:33 | preglow | i will _oblitherate_ you |
| 20:16:43 | boza111 | linuxstb: isnt the stuff just ported from IPL |
| 20:16:47 | * | linuxstb mumbles about mplayer... |
| 20:17:06 | imphasing | That's what format my camera takes, and I didn't want to transcode |
| 20:17:08 | imphasing | :P |
| 20:17:15 | boza111 | cool , downloading |
| 20:17:19 | imphasing | My mplayer plugin works just fine |
| 20:17:21 | imphasing | :D |
| 20:17:42 | boza111 | Guys , just get the quicktime codec , so u can watch MOV in windows media player classic |
| 20:17:50 | preglow | yes, windows media player classic |
| 20:17:53 | preglow | in linux |
| 20:17:54 | imphasing | ... |
| 20:17:57 | imphasing | yeah, that.. |
| 20:17:58 | markun | linuxstb: starting to work quite nicely: http://130.89.160.166/Gigabeat/simulator2.png |
| 20:18:00 | imphasing | haha |
| 20:18:00 | boza111 | lol |
| 20:18:14 | yeahx | mplayer plugin? |
| 20:18:21 | imphasing | Someone might want to take that off my server and host it from a real computer |
| 20:18:24 | imphasing | yeahx: For my browser |
| 20:18:28 | linuxstb | markun: Nice. I bet you're desperate for a port now.... |
| 20:18:29 | yeahx | oh ok |
| 20:18:34 | preglow | markun: that's some fine screen real-estate you have there, sir |
| 20:18:35 | markun | yes :) |
| 20:18:50 | markun | preglow: yes, a bit big :) |
| 20:19:13 | linuxstb | At least it's the right shape for rockblox |
| 20:19:27 | preglow | rockblox needs some updating for newer platforms... |
| 20:19:30 | markun | Some things would be better to be viewed rotated |
| 20:19:31 | preglow | it looks like a bag of shit |
| 20:19:46 | markun | even the WPS would look better rotated I think |
| 20:19:53 | yeahx | wtf is that? |
| 20:19:57 | linuxstb | Most of the old games do - which is a shame, because they are very playable. |
| 20:19:58 | markun | unless we display album art or something |
| 20:20:03 | preglow | yeahx: a space monster! |
| 20:20:06 | preglow | yeahx: (from outer space) |
| 20:20:08 | boza111 | thats a nice screen saver |
| 20:20:13 | yeahx | oh noooss |
| 20:20:37 | yeahx | yeh I was wondering about album art, its not a needed feature but Im sure some will want it |
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| 20:22:57 | imphasing | imphasing.myvnc.com/ipod5g.mpg">http://imphasing.myvnc.com/ipod5g.mpg #for weenies without quicktime codecs |
| 20:23:39 | imphasing | haha...mencoder sped up the fram rate. |
| 20:23:40 | imphasing | That bastard. |
| 20:23:46 | yeahx | anyone figure out backlight off on nano yet? |
| 20:23:57 | yeahx | I dont think thats the cause of my short battery life though |
| 20:24:15 | linuxstb | yeahx: Doesn't it just switch itself off after the timeout? |
| 20:24:19 | yeahx | probably ogg+headphones eating the battery |
| 20:24:30 | yeahx | I want it off completely which doesnt seem to work |
| 20:24:37 | preglow | right |
| 20:24:45 | preglow | i haven't got my ipod with me right now |
| 20:24:54 | markun | and the CPU is still boosted all the time, right? |
| 20:25:09 | yeahx | dunno |
| 20:25:20 | preglow | gdamn, this thing's got a mean-ass display |
| 20:25:34 | linuxstb | markun: One core is at full-speed, the other is sleeping. |
| 20:25:37 | preglow | markun: not boosted per se, we just clock it at 75mhz then never touch it again |
| 20:25:40 | yeahx | should I try encoding ogg at lower bitrates or just forget about ogg |
| 20:25:40 | preglow | lest you want the sound to explode |
| 20:25:53 | preglow | yeahx: what bitrates doy uo use? |
| 20:26:33 | yeahx | I dont remember the quality setting but I set max bitrate at 128 |
| 20:26:44 | yeahx | should I set max to 96? :) |
| 20:27:03 | markun | yeahx: use a low quality setting and leave the max bitrate alone I would say |
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| 20:27:47 | yeahx | it seems I only get a few hours of listening in and the battery gets really low |
| 20:27:50 | preglow | wth? |
| 20:27:58 | preglow | i can play oggs at 250kbps++ just fine |
| 20:28:13 | yeahx | maybe its my headphones |
| 20:28:17 | preglow | never touch the max bitrate if you're interested in good quality |
| 20:28:29 | yeahx | philips earbuds |
| 20:28:47 | boza111 | hi imphasing |
| 20:28:56 | linuxstb | yeahx: How do you know the battery is low? |
| 20:29:21 | yeahx | I want them to be decent with smaller file sizes and to play gapless |
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| 20:29:45 | yeahx | my battery completely ran out one time, I thought I just didnt charge it enough |
| 20:30:22 | yeahx | the next day I listened to a few albums then booted into apple firmware and the battery was in the red and very low |
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| 20:31:27 | linuxstb | The only fair test is to make sure your ipod is fully charged, and then use Rockbox as normal until it shuts down. |
| 20:31:33 | yeahx | dont think it would be the headphones though cause I still have half a battery with normal usage |
| 20:31:51 | yeahx | so make a playlist and let it play non-stop? |
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| 20:32:21 | linuxstb | Yes. Or just play a directory full of files, with repeat enabled. |
| 20:32:41 | imphasing | imphasing.myvnc.com/ipod5g.mpg">http://imphasing.myvnc.com/ipod5g.mpg #re-transcoded with the proper framerate |
| 20:32:43 | linuxstb | But obviously, having the backlight on won't help. |
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| 20:34:27 | muesli__ | imphasing what coded is that? have to use old fashioned media player classic to get it played |
| 20:35:14 | imphasing | that's...mpeg1video? |
| 20:35:16 | imphasing | I think.. |
| 20:35:17 | imphasing | yeah. |
| 20:36:00 | muesli__ | the last mpg doenst play at all |
| 20:36:50 | amiconn | w00t |
| 20:37:04 | amiconn | lcd-2bit-horz working correctly |
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| 20:37:23 | linuxstb | Nice :) |
| 20:37:27 | amiconn | Not fully optimised yet, but it should already be considerably faster than the cvs version |
| 20:37:43 | linuxstb | I think the fact that it works is the main thing. |
| 20:37:47 | amiconn | Plus it shouldn't show artefacts |
| 20:38:02 | linuxstb | I assume it still uses the vertically-packed bitmaps? |
| 20:38:06 | amiconn | Native bitmaps are already transposed, mono bitmaps not yet |
| 20:38:41 | linuxstb | What about the native bitmaps hard-coded in the plugins? Will they be wrong for now? |
| 20:38:50 | amiconn | Are there any? |
| 20:39:04 | linuxstb | I'm sure a few games will use them. |
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| 20:39:14 | linuxstb | Let me recheck |
| 20:39:22 | amiconn | If so, then they will be wrong for now |
| 20:39:35 | linuxstb | Yes, it doesn't matter for now. |
| 20:40:05 | * | [IDC]Dragon starts on color jpeg |
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| 20:40:52 | linuxstb | I must have been thinking about mono bitmaps - the plugins seem free of native bitmaps now. |
| 20:40:56 | yeahx_ | yeahx: doesnt it waste more power when it loads the first part of the album again and you change it to another one? |
| 20:41:25 | Paprica | [IDC]Dragon, good luck |
| 20:41:27 | Paprica | ;] |
| 20:41:40 | amiconn | linuxstb: It seems bejeweled does, but I'll re-check |
| 20:41:41 | Paprica | hope to see it soon |
| 20:41:47 | amiconn | Perhaps it's just a dependency problem |
| 20:41:59 | linuxstb | I thought bejewelled was all external now. |
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| 20:42:26 | amiconn | Does bejeweled use sub-images? |
| 20:42:34 | [IDC]Dragon | working backwards: first my testbed needs rgb output, then a color space converter, finally the decoder |
| 20:42:48 | yeahx_ | what else is in the rockbox nano zip, I can see rockbox.ipod but its only 316k |
| 20:43:00 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: You want to decode all the way to rgb? |
| 20:43:08 | amiconn | Or is that just for testing? |
| 20:43:13 | [IDC]Dragon | no, to yuv |
| 20:43:16 | yeahx_ | but the folder is 7.3mb? |
| 20:43:34 | [IDC]Dragon | the color space converter is just for the testbed |
| 20:43:46 | linuxstb | yeahx: There is a ".rockbox" folder there as well - containing fonts, themes, plugins and codecs |
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| 20:44:04 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll leave the integration to you guys |
| 20:44:15 | imphasing | linuxstb: Josh "fixed" the arm lcd refresh function |
| 20:44:35 | yeahx_ | aah ok, I guess its hidden |
| 20:44:39 | imphasing | it's not done he says though |
| 20:44:49 | yeahx_ | to update I just drag the rockbox.ipod right? |
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| 20:45:31 | linuxstb | yeahx: No. |
| 20:45:47 | linuxstb | You should always upgrade by extracting the whole contents of the zip file to your ipod. |
| 20:46:07 | yeahx_ | all that windows command line crap? |
| 20:46:17 | yeahx_ | damn |
| 20:46:38 | yeahx_ | ooh thats just for boot loader right? |
| 20:46:41 | linuxstb | No - not the bootloader. Just unzip the rockbox.zip to your player. |
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| 20:47:04 | yeahx_ | cool I'll try if I can without it making a folder |
| 20:47:21 | yeahx_ | too lazy to figure out how to move the invisible folder |
| 20:47:32 | amiconn | Why move? |
| 20:47:45 | amiconn | Just unzip directly to the device |
| 20:50:03 | yeahx_ | it was unziping into a new folder but that was an option I just turned off |
| 20:50:35 | yeahx_ | should have done it on windows |
| 20:51:33 | yeahx_ | then I could remove the clutter :) |
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| 20:52:34 | amiconn | linuxstb: I couldn't find any problems with hard-coded bitmaps. Perhaps there are some hard-coded bitmaps, but it's not (yet) a problem if these are monochrome |
| 20:53:11 | linuxstb | No, I couldn't see any either - so it looks like we're clean of native bitmaps. |
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| 20:55:34 | yeahx_ | what are all the .bmp files for? |
| 20:55:43 | yeahx_ | they make up the gui? |
| 20:56:28 | safetydan | yup |
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| 21:04:02 | amiconn | Any 3g of 4g greyscale iPod owner around? |
| 21:05:42 | amiconn | The 4-grey rockbox logo is broken. The topmost pixel rows are missing... |
| 21:06:00 | amiconn | (I mean the .bmp in cvs) |
| 21:06:38 | imphasing | I have a 3G |
| 21:06:58 | amiconn | Could you test the upcoming bleeding edge build? |
| 21:07:01 | imphasing | ok |
| 21:07:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Don't they use the 156*53 sone? |
| 21:07:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | one? |
| 21:07:24 | linuxstb | amiconn, imphasing I'm not sure the 3g works properly. |
| 21:07:31 | amiconn | Ah, hmm |
| 21:07:40 | amiconn | Then we need a 4g greyscale owner... |
| 21:07:40 | imphasing | We'll see then. |
| 21:07:41 | imphasing | :D |
| 21:07:44 | imphasing | ah.. |
| 21:08:19 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Are you around? |
| 21:08:42 | Zoide777 | yes |
| 21:09:07 | Zoide777 | what's up |
| 21:09:35 | linuxstb | amiconn has fixed your lcd :) |
| 21:10:08 | amiconn | At least I hope so. I can only test with the sim |
| 21:10:10 | Zoide777 | WHAAAAA???? |
| 21:10:10 | Zoide777 | hehe |
| 21:10:22 | Zoide777 | well, I have little objection to testing it |
| 21:10:24 | Zoide777 | :D |
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| 21:13:38 | linuxstb | Zoide777: I've made a zip from the latest CVS here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-4g.zip |
| 21:17:06 | Zoide777 | oh glorious day! haha |
| 21:17:09 | Zoide777 | seems to work fine |
| 21:17:24 | Zoide777 | any specific things you'd like me to test? |
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| 21:18:06 | Zoide777 | hmmm |
| 21:18:23 | Zoide777 | did the refresh rate change? b/c it seems harder to read the text as you scroll through the songs list |
| 21:18:41 | preglow | i wonder why no one hasn't complained we don't do dithering yet |
| 21:18:45 | Zoide777 | maybe I'm imagining it and it always was that way |
| 21:18:46 | linuxstb | Zoide777: Do you mean it's faster now? |
| 21:18:55 | amiconn | Zoide777: Scrollbar at the left (for longer file listings) should look correctly now, even if you scroll further down. No artefacts should be visible, |
| 21:19:22 | amiconn | and the 4-grey rockbox logo should be shown correctly at boot, and when you call Info->Verison |
| 21:20:08 | Zoide777 | amiconn: the logo shows correctly. however, the scrollbar gets cut off at the bottom if the status bar is turned on |
| 21:20:16 | amiconn | The drawing speed for mono bitmaps shouldn't have changed much (that includes drawing text), but it might be a bit faster |
| 21:20:33 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: I'm not sure if the refresh is faster or slower, it *seems* like it's harder to read the text as it scrolls by |
| 21:20:51 | Zoide777 | linuxstb: maybe it's harder to read b/c it's faster |
| 21:21:51 | Zoide777 | wow! and it's much faster going to/from the song list and the now playing screen |
| 21:22:05 | Zoide777 | oooh! and the progress bar works |
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| 21:22:32 | Zoide777 | everything feels instantaneous |
| 21:22:36 | Fitzsimmons | hi |
| 21:23:46 | Fitzsimmons | I can't find any documention on "bookmarks" |
| 21:23:52 | Zoide777 | i mean seriously, it's almost as if the hard drive also got faster |
| 21:23:53 | Fitzsimmons | could someone explain what they are and how they're used? |
| 21:24:07 | markun | preglow: audio or image? |
| 21:24:20 | preglow | markun: audio |
| 21:25:25 | amiconn | Zoide777: The new driver doesn't even exploit all possible optimisations... |
| 21:25:41 | Zoide777 | amiconn: that's a w e s o m e |
| 21:25:51 | amiconn | Some of them just need more thinking about the best way to apply them. |
| 21:25:57 | Zoide777 | congratulations |
| 21:26:00 | linuxstb | Now we need the greyscale lib. |
| 21:26:17 | amiconn | The biggest optimisation will be switching monochrome formats, but that needs infrastructural work all over |
| 21:26:30 | amiconn | (icons, font loading) |
| 21:27:50 | Fitzsimmons | oh, looks like bookmarks aren't fully finished on the iriver port |
| 21:27:55 | Fitzsimmons | that would explain why I can't use them |
| 21:28:00 | amiconn | YOu can |
| 21:28:08 | Fitzsimmons | oh really |
| 21:28:15 | amiconn | Bookmarks are working identical on all platforms |
| 21:28:40 | Zoide777 | amiconn: fonts finally display fully all over the screen (especially the top was a pain) |
| 21:28:41 | Fitzsimmons | not according to this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison |
| 21:28:50 | Fitzsimmons | although they did mention that it could be out of date |
| 21:29:00 | Fitzsimmons | in that case amiconn, how do I set a bookmark? Or resume one for that matter |
| 21:29:42 | amiconn | There is one minor restriction on all swcodec targets: Bookmarks can't go *into* non-seekable formats the same way as you can't seek within such files manually |
| 21:29:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fitzsimmons: In that chart, the left column is what rockbox can do, the rightmost one is what the *original* software did. |
| 21:30:05 | preglow | i think we should add a CAN_SEEK flag to dsp_configure |
| 21:30:32 | Fitzsimmons | Paul_The_Nerd: ah, good clarification |
| 21:30:48 | amiconn | LinusN: Something is wrong with the HD power handling of the latest builds. Now I get a nasty emergecy park click on boot (H300) |
| 21:30:58 | Fitzsimmons | amiconn: vorbis, mp3, and possibly flac - I don't think that seeking is a problem with any of those |
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| 21:31:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Anyone know of any program or utility *other* than metaflac that might be good for generating a fairly large number of seek tables for flacs? |
| 21:31:27 | LinusN | amiconn: badness |
| 21:31:47 | Fitzsimmons | I guess this is a just an interface/lack of documentation problem |
| 21:31:54 | Fitzsimmons | I have no idea how to set a bookmark =/ |
| 21:32:15 | Zoide777 | amiconn: There's still something wrong with the bottom of the screen. If the status bar is on (for example, I just opened the engineer2 theme), then a strip at the bottom always stays the same |
| 21:32:35 | amiconn | hmm... |
| 21:32:48 | amiconn | Which font do you use? |
| 21:32:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fitzsimmons: I honestly don't know either, but I recall that there were instructions in the manual |
| 21:32:57 | markun | Fitzsimmons: hold select and go to 'bookmarks' |
| 21:34:00 | Fitzsimmons | Paul_The_Nerd: mind linking me to that manual? |
| 21:34:11 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: What's wrong with metaflac? |
| 21:34:27 | Fitzsimmons | markun: aha, thanks, I didn't even know that menu existed |
| 21:34:31 | Zoide777 | seems to happen w/ every font |
| 21:34:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Well, when I tried it, it didn't like the * wildcard at all. |
| 21:34:49 | linuxstb | Are you in cygwin? |
| 21:35:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fitzsimmons: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxManual <−−- A little out of date, I believe, but it'll still be helpful |
| 21:35:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I was using the windows version at the command prompt. |
| 21:35:36 | linuxstb | In cygwin, the bash shell should expand the * and give metaflac the individual filenames. |
| 21:35:36 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: for a in *;do metaflac −−whatever $a; done |
| 21:35:43 | Zoide777 | amiconn: though it's interesting that upon selecting a new font, the screen displays correctly for a moment (still in the old font), but then it shows the new font on all of the screen except for the bottom strip, which did not refresh (still shows the old font) |
| 21:35:43 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: ah, never mind then ;) |
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| 21:36:11 | Mikachu | the help output says it can take many files at once.. |
| 21:36:37 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: In Unix, the expansion of "*" into filenames is the job of the shell - programs like metaflac actually receive individual filenames |
| 21:36:38 | preglow | wav.c uses almost no iram... |
| 21:36:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaaah |
| 21:37:10 | linuxstb | preglow: I would guess aiff is similar - it was based on wav.c |
| 21:37:40 | preglow | i'm brushing up wav.c a bit now |
| 21:37:49 | preglow | think i'll just bump the iram usage a bit |
| 21:37:55 | preglow | btw |
| 21:38:13 | linuxstb | BTW, we should use the extra 32KB of IRAM in the 5g and nano |
| 21:38:28 | preglow | linuxstb: yeah, but i'll be hairy... |
| 21:38:28 | amiconn | linuxstb: Your new backdrop handling in plugin.c doesn't work correctly. Just changing the backdrop and calling lcd_update() doesn't remove the backdrop |
| 21:38:33 | preglow | for when we do support audio dithering again, do you think it would matter if we applied dithering even if the source material is too low precision to benefit? |
| 21:38:43 | preglow | i' |
| 21:39:00 | preglow | i'd love to just not have the codecs have to specify their "real" output precision |
| 21:39:13 | amiconn | This means plugins which don't lcd_clear_display() themselves start drawing text (with plain background), but the rest of the screen still shows the old backdrop |
| 21:39:35 | Zoide777 | amiconn: you mean that's what's happening w/ the 4g gray |
| 21:39:36 | Zoide777 | ? |
| 21:40:23 | linuxstb | amiconn: Good spot. Shall I add an lcd_clear_display() or will you. |
| 21:40:49 | amiconn | There already is an lcd_clear_display() in an earlier place |
| 21:41:14 | amiconn | Imho this could be moved down instead. No need to clear the display if the plugin refuses to run |
| 21:41:31 | linuxstb | But that first clear gives the user feedback that something is happening. |
| 21:41:46 | amiconn | Oh, and of course the remote lcd should be cleared as well |
| 21:44:06 | amiconn | What about a splash() for feedback? |
| 21:44:19 | linuxstb | Do we have a non-blocking splash? |
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| 21:44:41 | amiconn | The splash is non-blocking when called with a delay of 0 |
| 21:44:59 | amiconn | The splash never clears itself |
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| 21:45:45 | amiconn | Afaik, there already is a generic "Loading..." .lang string |
| 21:45:52 | linuxstb | That would work nicely then. |
| 21:46:41 | josh_ | linuxstb: I was ldmiaing lr instead of pc... might've had something to do with the infloop. |
| 21:47:03 | linuxstb | possibly... |
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| 21:52:05 | * | amiconn just discovered that Rockbox is mentioned briefly in an article in the german computer magazine c't |
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| 21:54:09 | linuxstb | What does c't say? |
| 21:54:18 | Fitzsimmons | anyone know if there is/there are plans for a HTML reader? |
| 21:54:33 | Mikachu | * read_bmp_file() |
| 21:54:35 | Mikachu | * Reads a monochrome BMP file and puts the data in rockbox format in *bitmap. |
| 21:54:38 | Mikachu | is that comment wrong? |
| 21:54:44 | Mikachu | or do you have two codepaths for loading a bmp file? |
| 21:54:44 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 21:54:46 | Mikachu | okay |
| 21:54:48 | LinusN | i haven't heard anything about an html readen |
| 21:54:54 | LinusN | reader |
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| 21:55:09 | * | Mikachu wants to implement a bmp viewer plugin |
| 21:55:17 | Mikachu | is there already one hidden somewhere? |
| 21:55:27 | LinusN | Mikachu: no |
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| 21:55:51 | LinusN | there is a 3rd party paint plugin which can act as a bmp viewer |
| 21:55:52 | safetydan | rename("/File", "/subdir/File"); should work right? |
| 21:55:53 | yeahx_ | will there be color too? |
| 21:56:09 | LinusN | safetydan: yes |
| 21:56:18 | safetydan | odd, it's giving me -1 and not working |
| 21:56:26 | safetydan | so close to getting cut/copy/paste going too |
| 21:56:35 | Paprica | LinusN, but the bmp viewer is veryyyyy slow |
| 21:56:43 | LinusN | Paprica: yes |
| 21:57:16 | Zoide777 | oohhhh, snake works on the 4g grayscale now |
| 21:57:28 | XavierGr | why some of the PLugBox plugins aren't commited? Are they badly written or the creators don't want to? |
| 21:57:28 | LinusN | safetydan: -1 means that the destination already exists |
| 21:57:39 | safetydan | which is even odder since it doesn't |
| 21:57:55 | linuxstb | XavierGr: 1) They have never been added to the patch-tracker, 2) They are H300-specific |
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| 21:58:07 | LinusN | XavierGr: the creators are too busy to adapt them to the other platforms |
| 21:58:44 | XavierGr | So there won't be any plugins target specific? |
| 21:59:00 | LinusN | XavierGr: yes |
| 21:59:06 | XavierGr | But as I see it most of the plugbox plugins will work for colour targets |
| 21:59:08 | Paprica | LinusN, http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.de/tetrox.htm |
| 21:59:19 | Paprica | jusy need key mapping to ipod |
| 21:59:36 | XavierGr | that's is very trivial |
| 21:59:46 | XavierGr | r/is |
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| 22:00:12 | preglow | anyone got any objections on the s3.28 sample format, before i start hacking some of the codecs to pieces? |
| 22:00:21 | LinusN | safetydan: i suggest you turn off the dircache while you're working with that |
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| 22:00:38 | LinusN | preglow: you have my support :-) |
| 22:01:03 | linuxstb | preglow: I don't object |
| 22:01:36 | preglow | how far should i go, btw? should i remove support for 16 bit audio altogether? |
| 22:01:41 | preglow | what about interleaved stereo? |
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| 22:02:02 | safetydan | LinusN, working in the sim so I don't think dircache is even available |
| 22:02:46 | linuxstb | preglow: What do you mean by remove support for 16-bit audio? |
| 22:03:41 | preglow | well, only support codecs passing audio as 32 bits |
| 22:04:02 | preglow | but maybe plugins will want to use 16 bit audio anywa |
| 22:04:03 | preglow | y |
| 22:04:10 | Zoide777 | preglow: you'll have all of Head-Fi at your feet in adoration :D |
| 22:04:41 | LinusN | safetydan: i don't know if rename() works as intended in the sim :-) |
| 22:05:11 | linuxstb | bbl |
| 22:05:17 | preglow | i'm just thinking about it anyway, i don't have time to do anything major |
| 22:05:39 | safetydan | LinusN, I'm beginning to think it doesn't |
| 22:05:42 | safetydan | time for a target test then |
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| 22:07:46 | safetydan | Bah. No strncat() |
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| 22:10:26 | safetydan | LinusN, it was the simulator, it works on target |
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| 22:11:57 | [IDC]Dragon | ...color jpeg testbed is ready... |
| 22:12:48 | preglow | \o/ |
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| 22:14:53 | safetydan | What's going to be the fastest way to copy a file in Rockbox? |
| 22:14:56 | safetydan | fread? |
| 22:19:01 | linuxstb | safetydan: Good question. I'm not sure what the ideal buffer size would be - or where you would get that buffer from. |
| 22:19:52 | safetydan | At the moment I think I'll just use my filename buffer |
| 22:19:54 | preglow | arggh, aiff.c also inherited the two level indent |
| 22:19:59 | safetydan | but that's only 256 bytes at a time |
| 22:20:56 | Paprica | [IDC]Dragon, what is the meaning of "testbed"? |
| 22:22:05 | linuxstb | safetydan: You can probably have a 512 byte buffer on the stack. But you should try and find a larger buffer - so you do multiple-sector reads and writes. |
| 22:22:22 | linuxstb | (512 bytes = 1 sector) |
| 22:23:03 | linuxstb | You should be able to use the plugin buffer - but I don't know if any other parts of Rockbox do that at the moment. |
| 22:23:15 | safetydan | that could be interesting |
| 22:23:20 | hardeep | if this is done in the gui context then you can always use the plugin buffer |
| 22:23:35 | linuxstb | That's what I thought. |
| 22:23:38 | safetydan | Should always be in the GUI so I don't see why it wouldn't work |
| 22:24:14 | linuxstb | 32KB could be a good size to start with - the size of the Archos plugin buffer. |
| 22:24:45 | linuxstb | Or just read up to the size of the plugin buffer, then write, then repeat... |
| 22:26:09 | preglow | and overwrite the tsr plugin, heh |
| 22:26:13 | preglow | if there is one |
| 22:26:35 | linuxstb | There goes that plan then. |
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| 22:26:51 | linuxstb | Just use malloc... |
| 22:26:56 | preglow | using the plugin buffer for anything but loading plugins should definitely not be done |
| 22:27:12 | hardeep | tsr plugins are accounted for when you get the plugin buffer |
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| 22:27:32 | linuxstb | Unless they themselves use the plugin buffer - in which case there will be nothing left. |
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| 22:27:39 | hardeep | there was the problem with the battery benchmark tsr using extra plugin buffer space but that was fixed |
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| 22:28:02 | imphasing | linuxstb: 82fps! |
| 22:28:03 | imphasing | :D |
| 22:28:12 | josh_ | wow, nice. |
| 22:28:26 | preglow | holy shit |
| 22:28:26 | josh_ | guess it was worth the effort of asming it :-) |
| 22:28:29 | preglow | that's what i get on my nano |
| 22:28:33 | Paprica | imphasing, ipod video again? |
| 22:28:34 | Paprica | =\ |
| 22:28:35 | preglow | it's always worth it |
| 22:28:36 | preglow | gcc makes shit code |
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| 22:28:44 | josh_ | yeah, tell me about it. |
| 22:28:44 | imphasing | But.. |
| 22:28:47 | imphasing | One problem. |
| 22:29:01 | imphasing | On the menu, the whole screen gets pushed up by about 10 pixels |
| 22:29:06 | imphasing | but only on the menus |
| 22:29:11 | imphasing | all the apps work perfectly |
| 22:29:15 | linuxstb | But I think the improvement is mainly the splitting of the bcm_finishup function |
| 22:29:25 | josh_ | yeah, that might be it |
| 22:29:29 | imphasing | Mmm.. |
| 22:29:36 | josh_ | that asm sets a flag and runs it at the beginning of next time, instead of the end of this one |
| 22:29:47 | imphasing | Mandelbrot says, "data abort at 00034070" |
| 22:29:58 | preglow | ooh |
| 22:30:25 | preglow | fancy |
| 22:30:30 | imphasing | Where's the patch for fps measurements on starfield? |
| 22:30:46 | imphasing | Cube seems faster.. |
| 22:30:52 | preglow | it should b |
| 22:30:52 | preglow | e |
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| 22:30:59 | linuxstb | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/starfield_fps.diff |
| 22:31:25 | imphasing | demistify is downright nippy |
| 22:31:48 | linuxstb | imphasing: Are you getting any corruption on the LCD? |
| 22:31:53 | imphasing | Just a little. |
| 22:31:57 | imphasing | On the menu. |
| 22:32:03 | imphasing | There's a little bar of reddish pixels |
| 22:32:07 | linuxstb | The same as my 107fps test? |
| 22:32:13 | imphasing | No. |
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| 22:32:24 | linuxstb | Better, worse, or just different? |
| 22:32:24 | imphasing | It seems to work perfectly, except mandelbrot won't start |
| 22:32:29 | imphasing | and it freezes the screen |
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| 22:32:40 | imphasing | Better I would think.. |
| 22:32:40 | imphasing | hang on |
| 22:32:46 | imphasing | let me patch starfield and measure |
| 22:33:32 | linuxstb | imphasing: Is this the current SVN version of the function? |
| 22:33:37 | imphasing | Yes. |
| 22:33:49 | imphasing | Erm, my patch isn't applying.. |
| 22:33:56 | imphasing | There was some option you told me to do before.. |
| 22:34:00 | imphasing | it was like, -p0 or something.. |
| 22:34:05 | [IDC]Dragon | Paprica: my testbed is a program where I plug the jpeg code in, to feed it from a jpg file, dumping into a bmp file |
| 22:34:24 | Paprica | oh ok |
| 22:34:30 | [IDC]Dragon | for debugging on the PC |
| 22:34:38 | Paprica | i think that it works on the player =] |
| 22:34:40 | imphasing | test_fps measures 93fps |
| 22:34:42 | imphasing | (!!) |
| 22:34:48 | imphasing | 99! |
| 22:34:59 | Paprica | imphasing, ipod video? |
| 22:35:03 | imphasing | yeah |
| 22:35:10 | Paprica | :( |
| 22:35:11 | imphasing | 102! |
| 22:35:13 | imphasing | :D |
| 22:35:19 | Paprica | why not in h300 |
| 22:35:19 | Paprica | =\ |
| 22:35:26 | imphasing | :( |
| 22:36:13 | imphasing | The only problem is the band of "corrupted pixels" at the bottom of the menu |
| 22:36:18 | imphasing | that seems to shift the whole menu up |
| 22:36:25 | imphasing | and makes the top part go past the screen |
| 22:37:52 | imphasing | Ok, I get 23fps on starfield |
| 22:38:04 | linuxstb | I get 33fps... |
| 22:38:12 | linuxstb | (with the CVS driver) |
| 22:38:16 | imphasing | Hmm.. |
| 22:38:23 | imphasing | how many do you get with test_fps? |
| 22:38:37 | linuxstb | 52.0, but I just committed a change to make it 54.0 |
| 22:38:47 | imphasing | I get an average of 100 after 8 tests |
| 22:38:56 | imphasing | Strange.. |
| 22:39:06 | linuxstb | I'm just trying josh's function now. |
| 22:39:10 | imphasing | Ok. |
| 22:39:21 | imphasing | I have to go to my physics class in like 10 minutes anyway |
| 22:40:38 | linuxstb | I get 55fps in test_fps and the same corruptions as with my 107fps patch.... |
| 22:40:46 | linuxstb | And 23fps in starfield... |
| 22:41:15 | imphasing | That's strange.. |
| 22:41:27 | imphasing | What's your function look like? |
| 22:41:43 | imphasing | lcd_update_rect |
| 22:42:43 | linuxstb | Just: _HD_ARM_Update5G (&lcd_framebuffer[0][0],x,y,width,height); |
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| 22:43:17 | imphasing | 7 lines too much to paste? |
| 22:43:47 | linuxstb | Yes... |
| 22:44:10 | linuxstb | Go to #ipodlinux.flood |
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| 22:46:02 | manhattan | Hi |
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| 22:49:28 | marevalo | hi all, anybody working on a Chess Game plugin ? |
| 22:50:14 | preglow | not that i know of |
| 22:50:22 | Paprica | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1393043&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 22:50:52 | Paprica | only for the h100 |
| 22:51:25 | marevalo | thanks, I'll take a look |
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| 22:53:48 | marevalo | it doesn't seem to be GPL compatible |
| 22:54:04 | manhattan | Got an iAudio U3 (cowon flash player). I did a firmware upgrade to 1.13 -beore I did anything else. I think it may hve been buggy or something, because besides my mp3 files in the music folder, nothing else is showing up. Not the pictures that I'm putting in there... I tried going back to 1.12 but still, the pictures wont show up. Is Rockbox going to be coming for the U3? |
| 22:54:25 | safetydan | So should I commit my cut/copy/paste stuff or put a patch on sourceforge first? |
| 22:59:15 | preglow | do a patch |
| 22:59:41 | preglow | maybe someone's got some comments |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:35 | [IDC]Dragon | yay, a color image! |
| 23:00:45 | Mikachu | :O |
| 23:01:00 | Mikachu | i'm guessing this will conflict with xaviers patch |
| 23:01:19 | [IDC]Dragon | now I need to test the various formats and zoom factors |
| 23:01:20 | preglow | \o/ |
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| 23:09:15 | petur | recording peakmeter is only available when CONFIG_CODEC == SWCODEC, correct? |
| 23:09:55 | LinusN | no |
| 23:10:32 | LinusN | the MAS chip in the Archos has it too |
| 23:11:04 | petur | and how can one find out if the peakmeter is operating for recording or playback? |
| 23:11:27 | petur | Mmmm is using pcm_is_playing() wich won't work... |
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| 23:13:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:13:59 | * | petur discovers audio_status() |
| 23:14:03 | warewolf | hmm |
| 23:14:11 | warewolf | I havn't updated my rockbox on my H300 in ages. |
| 23:14:22 | warewolf | I'm sure there are some sexy new features/bugfixes I don't have yet :) |
| 23:14:27 | warewolf | where can I get a full changelog? |
| 23:14:41 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 23:14:49 | warewolf | danke |
| 23:15:15 | [IDC]Dragon | color jpeg decoder works in all my test cases |
| 23:15:26 | warewolf | are we playing movies on h3xx yet? |
| 23:15:28 | warewolf | :) |
| 23:15:37 | preglow | [IDC]Dragon: commit! |
| 23:15:56 | Bagder | hey, the return of the missing comitter! ;-) |
| 23:16:06 | [IDC]Dragon | somebody needs to do a color space converter for the target |
| 23:16:11 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
| 23:16:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm working on my ticket |
| 23:16:27 | Mikachu | aren't there some general functions for that |
| 23:17:47 | * | preglow prods/kicks amiconn |
| 23:17:58 | safetydan | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1433216&group_id=44306&atid=439120 if someone wants to try cut/copy/paste |
| 23:18:09 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Did you retain greyscale only decoding for the greyscale targets? |
| 23:18:33 | [IDC]Dragon | sure |
| 23:18:46 | [IDC]Dragon | it's a second decoding function |
| 23:19:08 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm looking for the proper #ifdef to surround it |
| 23:19:19 | amiconn | #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR |
| 23:19:20 | Mikachu | HAVE_LCD_COLOR? |
| 23:19:40 | amiconn | Is the decoding that much different? |
| 23:19:42 | [IDC]Dragon | is that true color for all? |
| 23:19:56 | amiconn | So far yes |
| 23:19:59 | [IDC]Dragon | ok |
| 23:20:01 | elinenbe | safetydan: looks nice... loading it up in a few. |
| 23:20:07 | Paprica | [IDC]Dragon, do you have a h300 rock for it? |
| 23:20:09 | amiconn | We have RGB565 and RGB565 byte-swapped |
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| 23:20:22 | LinusN | ah, finally i can autodetect the remote control type on the h300 |
| 23:20:35 | warewolf | LinusN: what'd you have to do? |
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| 23:20:56 | [IDC]Dragon | Paprica: no, only Archos |
| 23:21:04 | LinusN | ADCIN1 reads different voltages for the different remotes |
| 23:21:08 | [IDC]Dragon | (else I woudn't ask so stupid) |
| 23:21:14 | petur | disassembly seems to be pretty usefull ;) |
| 23:21:15 | muesli__ | LinusN thats awesome! |
| 23:21:16 | preglow | LinusN: woot! |
| 23:21:22 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I would have expected that some parts of the decoder could just be #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR |
| 23:21:23 | warewolf | nice |
| 23:21:31 | Kensir | so...does anyone know why rockbox seems to be getting the 5g LCD working so fast |
| 23:21:36 | LinusN | took me quite some dissassembling to find that out |
| 23:21:37 | Kensir | I was just curious how |
| 23:22:01 | Bagder | Kensir: a curious and inventive linuxstb :-) |
| 23:22:05 | Kensir | ha |
| 23:22:11 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: only jpeg_decode() has a variant, all the rest is the same |
| 23:22:22 | amiconn | Okay |
| 23:22:27 | Kensir | i was thinking they may have overcome the Broadcom chip obstacle |
| 23:22:32 | warewolf | any updates to the bootloader for h3xx recently? Like did the lcd-backlight before lcd-init get fixed yet? |
| 23:22:42 | amiconn | What's the output format? Is the yuv data interleaved, or separate arrays? |
| 23:22:45 | Bagder | Kensir: it doesn't seem to be that much of an obstacle |
| 23:22:54 | [IDC]Dragon | I didn't want to do additinal if's in there |
| 23:23:07 | [IDC]Dragon | hence the 2nd implementation |
| 23:23:27 | Kensir | really? From what i've understood its been difficult to figure out the instruction set or something |
| 23:23:36 | [IDC]Dragon | but it's possible to merge it |
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| 23:23:41 | | Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) |
| 23:23:51 | petur | warewolf: if you don't have the latest one, flash it. it also has bootloader usb mode |
| 23:24:13 | warewolf | petur: running 0.3, or someting |
| 23:24:22 | * | warewolf looks on the website |
| 23:25:09 | warewolf | oh shit |
| 23:25:12 | warewolf | v5 is out |
| 23:25:18 | warewolf | daymn I'm behind |
| 23:25:24 | linuxstb | Kensir: We're still using the broadcom chip like a black box - but it seems a much more useful black box than we first thought. |
| 23:25:37 | Kensir | o, Ok |
| 23:25:44 | Kensir | sounds good, keep up the good work! |
| 23:25:47 | linuxstb | For normal Rockbox use, we can now just ignore it. |
| 23:25:57 | Kensir | thats good |
| 23:26:16 | petur | warewolf: wait until you discover backdrops and other gui goodies :) |
| 23:26:20 | * | warewolf grabs h340 from bookbags |
| 23:26:28 | warewolf | s/s$// |
| 23:26:30 | warewolf | petur: awesome. |
| 23:27:29 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: It seems that my Ondio SP has developed the "hot LTC3440" disease |
| 23:27:40 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: the output is 3 different planes |
| 23:27:56 | [IDC]Dragon | that can be developed? |
| 23:27:56 | amiconn | (unless this is a reversible effect of powering from USB only w/o batteries inserted) |
| 23:28:18 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought it's genetic |
| 23:28:47 | | Quit marevalo ("Abandonando") |
| 23:28:48 | [IDC]Dragon | but mine gets a bit warm, too |
| 23:29:10 | [IDC]Dragon | I can bring chips to devcon, if I can find them |
| 23:30:02 | warewolf | # warewolf@xasf:~/Desktop$ wine iRiverFirmwareVer1_29Korea.exe |
| 23:30:10 | * | warewolf really hates iriver for distributing inside exes |
| 23:30:22 | | Part safetydan ("Leaving") |
| 23:31:09 | ashridah | warewolf: isn't it just a self-extracting zip? |
| 23:31:22 | warewolf | I tried :( |
| 23:31:25 | warewolf | unzip didn't like it |
| 23:31:49 | muesli__ | http://download.rockbox-lounge.de/H300/H300KR_V129.zip |
| 23:31:59 | muesli__ | does that work for u? |
| 23:31:59 | warewolf | already undid it in wine |
| 23:32:04 | warewolf | wine works fine :) |
| 23:32:14 | Fitzsimmons | can't you ask winzip to skip the header garbage? |
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| 23:32:38 | warewolf | Fitzsimmons: what would be the point of opening it in winzip if the file is a windows executable in the first place? |
| 23:32:40 | Fitzsimmons | er |
| 23:32:46 | warewolf | Fitzsimmons: I'm whining because I'm a hardcore linux user :) |
| 23:32:50 | Fitzsimmons | wow, I messed that up didn't I |
| 23:32:51 | Fitzsimmons | I meant to say |
| 23:32:52 | Fitzsimmons | unzip |
| 23:32:56 | warewolf | Fitzsimmons: Windows is only used for video games :) |
| 23:33:05 | warewolf | Fitzsimmons: no problem, usually unzip does detect SFX archives |
| 23:33:10 | warewolf | # warewolf@xasf:~/Desktop$ cp H300.hex /media/H300/ |
| 23:33:13 | Fitzsimmons | warewolf: I've been using linux for 7 years ;) |
| 23:33:13 | * | warewolf prays for rain |
| 23:33:29 | warewolf | Fitzsimmons: sweet, lemme see how many I have |
| 23:33:45 | Fitzsimmons | hehe |
| 23:33:46 | warewolf | 11 years |
| 23:33:49 | Fitzsimmons | oh no |
| 23:33:52 | Fitzsimmons | a penis size competition |
| 23:33:56 | warewolf | ofcourse! |
| 23:34:02 | Fitzsimmons | yeah well my uptime is... :P |
| 23:34:08 | warewolf | 17:34:07 up 3 days, 18:04, 4 users, load average: 0.23, 0.48, 0.35 |
| 23:34:12 | warewolf | BEAT THAT |
| 23:34:14 | warewolf | uh wait. |
| 23:34:16 | Fitzsimmons | lol I was kidding |
| 23:34:20 | warewolf | :) |
| 23:34:24 | Fitzsimmons | but I could ;) |
| 23:34:52 | Bagder | 11:34pm up 400 days, 13:03, 21 users |
| 23:35:02 | Fitzsimmons | can't beat that one |
| 23:35:07 | warewolf | I detect a rootable system! |
| 23:35:18 | Fitzsimmons | indeed :P |
| 23:35:31 | Bagder | if you could reach it, sure |
| 23:36:08 | * | warewolf flashes |
| 23:36:48 | Fitzsimmons | portaudit ftw |
| 23:38:21 | warewolf | interesting |
| 23:38:25 | warewolf | how do you get out of bootloader usb mode |
| 23:40:16 | petur | LinusN: can you detect disk activity while in USB mode? |
| 23:40:53 | amiconn | Not on ISD200/ISD300 and derivates afaik |
| 23:40:59 | amiconn | On Ondio we can do that |
| 23:41:22 | petur | I was thinking of iRiver... |
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| 23:42:18 | warewolf | petur: how do you exit bootloader usb mode? |
| 23:42:28 | petur | unplug it? |
| 23:42:37 | warewolf | :/ |
| 23:42:49 | warewolf | does it charge when in usb mode? |
| 23:43:18 | * | preglow goes byebye |
| 23:43:42 | petur | can't remember lostlogics latest devolments there |
| 23:43:54 | warewolf | hrm |
| 23:43:58 | * | petur joins preglow |
| 23:44:05 | LinusN | petur: iriver uses isd300 |
| 23:44:17 | petur | so no... |
| 23:44:34 | petur | night all.... |
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| 23:45:33 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 23:45:42 | Sacro | has anyone fixed the USB problem on last nights iriver version? |
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| 23:49:27 | Bagder | "I see the light and its name is rockbox." |
| 23:49:27 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:49:32 | * | Bagder reads the forums |
| 23:49:39 | Mikachu | light has a name? |
| 23:49:48 | Bagder | now it does! |
| 23:50:37 | Fitzsimmons | haha |
| 23:52:30 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Will you commit your code as-is, or will you put it somewhere for adding yuv->rgb conversion before a commit? |
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| 23:54:57 | warewolf | thre we go |
| 23:55:10 | warewolf | hold rec while plugging in not to enter bootloader usb mode |
| 23:55:36 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: I'm about to commit it as-is now |
| 23:55:37 | warewolf | (I last updated my rockbox on the 5th of january :) |
| 23:55:44 | warewolf | good work guys, thanks. |
| 23:55:55 | [IDC]Dragon | the extra function would do no harm, just be unused for now |
| 23:57:43 | amiconn | What happens when I feed it a pure greyscale jpeg? |
| 23:58:00 | [IDC]Dragon | you get grayscale |
| 23:58:17 | [IDC]Dragon | I've tested that, too |
| 23:58:28 | amiconn | I mean, what do I get for U and V? |
| 23:58:35 | [IDC]Dragon | the u,v is not touched |
| 23:58:48 | [IDC]Dragon | so you'd better fil it with 128 first |
| 23:58:53 | [IDC]Dragon | fill |
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