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| 00:05:29 | pyro | Anyone familiar with the power management code of the H300 port? What is the current status of it? It appears to functionally work. TWiki page says it needs work before updating AC charge boot mode (irvier vs rockbox) in the bootloader? |
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| 00:12:38 | lostlogic | There are still osme power related issues that Linus is working on before he puts AC->rockbox in the bootloader |
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| 00:13:18 | lostlogic | Some stuff about the poewr control of the hdd and possibly other components |
| 00:13:40 | lostlogic | otherwise there are basically the same issues as the H1x0 has WRT charging detection, and low poewr management |
| 00:13:55 | pyro | yeah, I'm trying to determine what those are specifically, because I would like to perhaps help with that part of development on the firmware side. I can't risk changing the bootloader :p |
| 00:14:31 | pyro | what do you mean? WRT charging detection and low power management? |
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| 00:15:16 | lostlogic | pyro: there is a patch on sourceforge that says improved power management for iRiver which has some of my comments and a patch that will hopefully help with the poewr management |
| 00:15:53 | pyro | ok, thx. I'll start there... |
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| 00:17:21 | roolku | Hi! just a quick heads-up for Paprica: in the last commit of Brickmania for the h1xx series, the bitmaps are not marked as binary so cvs update to a windows platform doesn't work for at least two bitmaps (brickmania_break.160x128x2.bmp & brickmania_powerups.160x128x2.bmp) where 0x0a is changed to 0x0d 0x0a. Just thought I would let you know |
| 00:19:17 | linuxstb | roolku: Just out of curiousity, which cvs client are you using? |
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| 00:22:47 | preglow | bloody ascii mode−−- |
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| 00:23:13 | linuxstb | So does CVS change text files as well? |
| 00:23:29 | linuxstb | I assume it must do... |
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| 00:24:23 | roolku | sorry - didn't mean to run, but the web client doesn't seem to refresh...anyway, I use tortoise cvs |
| 00:24:35 | | Quit roolku (Client Quit) |
| 00:24:40 | lostlogic | on text files, it 'corrects' broken files that contain binary data, and does substitutions on strings for the $*:$ strings |
| 00:25:08 | linuxstb | Another example of "helpful" software.... |
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| 00:27:07 | linuxstb | Is the solution to delete the files and then re-add them? |
| 00:27:37 | lostlogic | I believe so yes |
| 00:27:58 | linuxstb | OK, I'll do it now. |
| 00:28:21 | lostlogic | cvs add -kb |
| 00:28:51 | linuxstb | :) |
| 00:30:21 | linuxstb | OK, done. |
| 00:30:35 | | Quit roolku ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 00:30:36 | linuxstb | roolku: Thanks. |
| 00:31:21 | linuxstb | Ah, forgot to "chmod -x" them.... |
| 00:31:38 | lostlogic | sigh ::shakefist:: windows. |
| 00:32:07 | linuxstb | Oh well, Bagder can do that in the cvsroot... |
| 00:32:29 | Bagder | that won't be cheap ;-) |
| 00:32:54 | linuxstb | Please.... |
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| 00:33:27 | preglow | hrmph |
| 00:33:47 | preglow | you can do add pc, pc, r13 and have it work like you'd think, yes? |
| 00:33:56 | Bagder | find . -name "*.bmp,v" -exec chmod a-x {} \; |
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| 00:34:44 | preglow | where r13 is completely arbitrary, not necessarily the stack pointer :> |
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| 00:42:19 | rob- | m |
| 00:43:52 | josh_ | preglow: yes |
| 00:44:03 | josh_ | but remember the +8 offset in pc due to the pipeline |
| 00:44:16 | josh_ | in fact, I know I've seen this a ton in retailos code... |
| 00:44:25 | josh_ | cmp rN, #8 |
| 00:44:34 | josh_ | addls pc, pc, rN, lsl #2 |
| 00:44:43 | josh_ | b bad |
| 00:44:48 | josh_ | b rNiszero |
| 00:44:50 | josh_ | b rNisone |
| 00:44:51 | josh_ | ... |
| 00:45:57 | preglow | josh_: yeah, know all that |
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| 00:46:11 | preglow | josh_: yeah, that's exactly what i've done as well, heh |
| 00:46:28 | josh_ | add pc, pc, r13 will work fine, as long as r13 is aligned |
| 00:46:30 | preglow | i was just doing some assembler for flac |
| 00:46:45 | preglow | to see how far down i can press flac decoding on arm |
| 00:47:00 | preglow | as it is it decodes at 24 mhz, i should be able to push that further down |
| 00:48:14 | preglow | hah, that's clever, i didn't do that |
| 00:48:25 | preglow | what with the compare, THEN the jump table, then the default action |
| 00:48:27 | preglow | very clever |
| 00:49:52 | preglow | whatever saves me one instruction has to be goo |
| 00:49:53 | preglow | d |
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| 00:51:19 | josh_ | how were you doing it? |
| 00:52:50 | preglow | cmp rN, #8 \n bhi default \n add pc, pc, rN, lsl #2 \n b padding \n b lol1 \n b lol2, etc |
| 00:53:00 | preglow | the other way gets rid of the need for padding |
| 00:53:07 | preglow | so is altogether niftier |
| 00:55:04 | preglow | all the code prior to the jump table is twice as small in arm than in coldfire code |
| 00:55:07 | * | preglow huggles arm |
| 00:57:53 | * | lostlogic eats preglow's arm |
| 00:58:07 | lostlogic | sometime after devcon I'll hafta buy an ipoo |
| 00:59:36 | preglow | yes, you will |
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| 01:04:37 | preglow | i'm so hot when i code tight assembler |
| 01:08:00 | preglow | but hot or not, i still need to sleep |
| 01:08:00 | preglow | laters |
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| 01:30:17 | kahm | hey hostile |
| 01:30:23 | Hostile | sup |
| 01:30:24 | kahm | how did that gapless stuff i sent you work out |
| 01:30:30 | Hostile | It's neat |
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| 01:47:47 | Vertigo_tdl | what's the usual lcd brightness for the h300 series? |
| 01:49:04 | Vertigo_tdl | usual/defaut |
| 01:49:10 | Vertigo_tdl | gg speeeeling |
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| 01:51:40 | Kensir | Quick question: Has the chip problem in the 5G iPod been fixed or instead "worked around"? I'm kind of confused... |
| 01:52:02 | Shadowarrior13 | What chip problem? |
| 01:52:20 | Shadowarrior13 | I don't remember a chip problem. |
| 01:52:45 | Kensir | The instruction set for the broadcom chip in the 5g |
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| 01:53:38 | Shadowarrior13 | There never *was* documentation on the broadcom chip |
| 01:53:57 | Shadowarrior13 | But it's not a problem, we just can't use it |
| 01:54:10 | Kensir | huh |
| 01:54:12 | Kensir | alright |
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| 01:58:30 | linuxstb | Kensir: We're still just using the broadcom chip as a "black box". It's just that it's turned out to be a much faster black box than originally thought. So the answer is that there wasn't a problem in the first place. |
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| 01:58:56 | drumrboy | is there any way to change text color on the 5g iPod? |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:01 | linuxstb | Not yet - unless you edit the source code and recompile. |
| 02:00:45 | drumrboy | :/ ok |
| 02:01:11 | drumrboy | i want to make a stock ipod skin, but with a black background, like everyone wanted for the stock version |
| 02:01:21 | amiconn | As if text colour would be the most important feature... scnr |
| 02:01:36 | imphasing | linuxstb: IS the broadcom chip actually being used now? |
| 02:02:01 | linuxstb | imphasing: Yes. |
| 02:02:09 | Shadowarrior13 | :O |
| 02:02:13 | imphasing | Really. |
| 02:02:18 | linuxstb | But it's always been used. |
| 02:02:25 | imphasing | What sort of instructions is it using? |
| 02:02:27 | imphasing | Ah.. |
| 02:02:30 | drumrboy | wow, and it still stops music if you lag, and plasma looks horrible if you play music behind it? |
| 02:02:36 | drumrboy | hmm |
| 02:02:45 | linuxstb | drumrboy: Yes - that's why we're not worried about colour.... |
| 02:02:46 | imphasing | I thought you had to send the lcd data from the main processor, and ignore the bcm.. |
| 02:03:42 | linuxstb | No, the lcd data is sent from the main cpu to the bcm - at least, that's what everyone thinks is going on. |
| 02:03:55 | imphasing | ah.. |
| 02:04:10 | imphasing | But we don't actually know how the data goes from the bcm to the lcd? |
| 02:04:13 | amiconn | Nobody actually dissected an iPod for r e? |
| 02:04:35 | linuxstb | amiconn: not afaik. |
| 02:04:57 | linuxstb | preglow's been threatening to. |
| 02:05:00 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 02:05:05 | Shadowarrior13 | Threatening? |
| 02:05:14 | linuxstb | threatening his nano... |
| 02:05:21 | Shadowarrior13 | XD |
| 02:06:04 | drumrboy | lol |
| 02:06:22 | drumrboy | nano has dual chipage also? |
| 02:06:33 | drumrboy | processor* |
| 02:07:37 | imphasing | dual core |
| 02:07:38 | imphasing | yes |
| 02:07:40 | imphasing | they all do |
| 02:09:10 | BHSPitMonkey | drumrboy: http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/6303/inverted8fm.png |
| 02:10:01 | Shadowarrior13 | 0_o |
| 02:10:06 | yeahx | thats perty |
| 02:11:02 | BHSPitMonkey | that's not even one of the nicer ones :P |
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| 02:12:39 | yeahx | thats on ipodlinux though right? |
| 02:12:47 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah |
| 02:13:05 | yeahx | havent tried that yet still |
| 02:14:06 | yeahx | remember I was having trouble installing? I could probably do it now but thought I would get more from rockbox since I dont want to watch videos on my nano |
| 02:14:27 | BHSPitMonkey | umm |
| 02:14:36 | * | BHSPitMonkey has retailos, rockbox, and linux on his nano |
| 02:14:47 | Shadowarrior13 | htf'd you do that? |
| 02:15:01 | BHSPitMonkey | and I wuv them all! (except RetailOS) :D |
| 02:15:08 | BHSPitMonkey | Shadowarrior13: forcefully? |
| 02:15:25 | imphasing | linuxstb: imphasing.myvnc.com/pacman2.png">http://imphasing.myvnc.com/pacman2.png #screen dump of pacman |
| 02:15:26 | imphasing | :D |
| 02:15:28 | BHSPitMonkey | what makes it seem complicated? |
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| 02:15:48 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 02:15:53 | Shadowarrior13 | The fact that I don't know crap? |
| 02:15:54 | yeahx | I might still try it someday |
| 02:16:02 | yeahx | video seems like the only benefit though |
| 02:16:11 | yeahx | wow you too Shadowarrior13? |
| 02:16:15 | Hostile | hey imphasing what ipod do you use rockbox on? |
| 02:16:15 | Shadowarrior13 | XD |
| 02:16:21 | kahm | Does anyone know if the battery charges at all with an iPod |
| 02:16:28 | Shadowarrior13 | I have like, knowledge to take backups, and navigate in linux. |
| 02:16:30 | Hostile | kahm: I have a 5g, it charges |
| 02:16:31 | Shadowarrior13 | Pretty much it. |
| 02:16:34 | kahm | It keeps coming in and out of sleep and shutdown. Not sure whats going on |
| 02:16:39 | Shadowarrior13 | Mine charges. |
| 02:16:47 | BHSPitMonkey | yeahx: iDoom, the upcoming hotdog engine, the awesome modules, the purdiness |
| 02:16:48 | kahm | How do yo uknow it's charging? |
| 02:16:49 | Shadowarrior13 | Maybe the retailOS is fucked. |
| 02:16:51 | Hostile | kahm: don't boot it with USB pluged in |
| 02:16:52 | Shadowarrior13 | Uhhh |
| 02:16:57 | Shadowarrior13 | It shows a battery charging bar? |
| 02:17:00 | Hostile | no |
| 02:17:03 | Hostile | Shadowarrior13: it doesnt |
| 02:17:06 | Shadowarrior13 | OR I don't know, but it doesnb't run out of battery. |
| 02:17:06 | yeahx | hotdog engine? |
| 02:17:08 | Shadowarrior13 | Mine does. |
| 02:17:10 | Hostile | kahm: just how its wired, it charges |
| 02:17:22 | kahm | so whenever its plugged into usb its going to charge? |
| 02:17:24 | Hostile | Shadowarrior13: how, the rockbox battery indicator doesnt work on the ipod |
| 02:17:27 | kahm | no matter what? |
| 02:17:31 | Hostile | kahm: I think so |
| 02:17:33 | Shadowarrior13 | Oh, in rockbox. |
| 02:17:34 | kahm | i see. |
| 02:17:42 | Shadowarrior13 | I thought he meant in retailos :P |
| 02:17:49 | Hostile | kahm: when you're in rockbox, Hold MENU while you plug in the USB |
| 02:18:14 | kahm | whats that suposed to do |
| 02:18:26 | Hostile | so it doesnt boot to USB mode |
| 02:18:30 | Hostile | and stays in rockbox |
| 02:18:38 | kahm | hmm |
| 02:18:49 | Hostile | so you can use rockbox while it charges |
| 02:19:36 | imphasing | Hostile: I use it on the 5G |
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| 02:19:46 | kahm | switches to a battery with the lightning bolt through it for me |
| 02:20:05 | Hostile | imphasing: do you notice that the mp3 decoder is the slowest? |
| 02:20:23 | imphasing | I haven't actually listened to music on it |
| 02:20:24 | imphasing | :) |
| 02:20:44 | Hostile | imphasing: what the hell do you use it for then? |
| 02:20:44 | Hostile | lmao |
| 02:21:12 | BHSPitMonkey | starfield |
| 02:21:14 | Kensir | actually, has any tried to build an ID3 tag database on the ipod (in rockbox) |
| 02:21:19 | Kensir | haha starfield rocks |
| 02:21:26 | Kensir | thats all i do in english class |
| 02:21:28 | Hostile | starfield makes me stare |
| 02:21:29 | imphasing | Hostile: Developing |
| 02:21:29 | imphasing | :P |
| 02:21:40 | Hostile | imphasing: you develop rockbox? |
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| 02:23:46 | imphasing | Er...I try |
| 02:23:49 | imphasing | sometimes |
| 02:23:54 | imphasing | Mostly for iPL though |
| 02:24:35 | linuxstb | kahm: A battery with a lightening bolt is Apple's firmware telling you that the battery is extemely low. |
| 02:25:27 | kahm | ohh. |
| 02:25:33 | linuxstb | kahm: Up until about 12 hours ago, Rockbox had a bug which meant that it would shut down (according to your idle power-off setting) even if it was charging. But that's fixed, so you can now insert USB (holding down MENU), and then leave it to charge in Rockbox. |
| 02:25:34 | Hostile | oh imphasing how do you relate the too? |
| 02:25:40 | Hostile | use rockbox for ideas? |
| 02:25:44 | Hostile | two* |
| 02:25:53 | kahm | oh wow. awesome. |
| 02:25:58 | kahm | i gotta grab a snapshot then. |
| 02:26:41 | linuxstb | Make sure you get the bleeding edge build (the link at the very bottom of the page), not the daily build. |
| 02:26:42 | Hostile | LCD doesnt have screen burn in right? |
| 02:27:35 | Hostile | 19 Feb 12:27Davefirmware/usb.c 1.84 Fix red builds - only check for USB_POWERED status if HAVE_USB_POWER is defined. |
| 02:27:50 | Kensir | has any one built podzilla with the right LCD code for the 5G? |
| 02:27:55 | linuxstb | Hostile: It was the commit before that one. |
| 02:28:01 | Hostile | Oh |
| 02:28:05 | linuxstb | Kensir: I think you're asking that in the wrong channel.... |
| 02:28:14 | Hostile | I should prolly dump a new bleeding edge build on mine then |
| 02:28:27 | kahm | I cant even find the bleeding edge link |
| 02:28:33 | imphasing | Hostile: The two projects are fairly similar |
| 02:28:41 | Hostile | kahm: Ill link you |
| 02:28:43 | imphasing | including the LCD driver, which linuxstb really made happen |
| 02:28:45 | Kensir | well |
| 02:28:46 | kahm | oh there we are. |
| 02:28:51 | Kensir | the linux channel is slightly dead |
| 02:28:58 | Kensir | but yea |
| 02:28:59 | linuxstb | That's because you're all here.... :) |
| 02:29:00 | Kensir | i'll check em out |
| 02:29:16 | Kensir | ahha |
| 02:29:33 | Hostile | imphasing: Im willing to try iPL for you, so if you ever need anything Ill test it, I know a few things about iPL used it back with my 3g |
| 02:30:05 | lostlogic | woah, audio support on yet another platform... go tomasz. (re: mailing list) |
| 02:30:15 | Hostile | lostlogic: ? |
| 02:30:45 | lostlogic | tomasz just posted on the mailing list that he's gotten preliminary audio support on the iRiver iFP series |
| 02:30:54 | kahm | I think i found another bug. I can't get this thing to mount at all now. Because the battery is so low, the thing won't go into disk mode. So I'm going to have to charge it with the outlet some. |
| 02:31:32 | Hostile | congrats |
| 02:31:48 | Hostile | kahm will it boot into rockbox? |
| 02:31:55 | linuxstb | kahm: Force it in to disk mode (hold down select and play after booting). |
| 02:32:04 | linuxstb | And then charge. |
| 02:32:47 | kahm | ah HAH |
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| 02:32:50 | kahm | that did it. |
| 02:32:59 | kahm | and yeah, it went into rocket box, but just died. |
| 02:33:07 | Hostile | rocket box? |
| 02:33:09 | Hostile | LOL |
| 02:33:15 | Benacool | Hello guys! |
| 02:33:19 | Hostile | Hello! |
| 02:33:22 | imphasing | Hi! |
| 02:33:26 | kahm | err rockbox. |
| 02:33:30 | kahm | ahaha, im out of it again. |
| 02:33:55 | Hostile | rocket box, thats catchy |
| 02:33:59 | Benacool | somebody know if they are plan to optimize the rockbox radio for h3x0 ? |
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| 02:37:17 | erus` | just found out about rockbox and ipod 5g |
| 02:37:24 | erus` | works great :D |
| 02:37:35 | erus` | but i cant find any plugins. |
| 02:37:41 | BHSPitMonkey | rocket box sounds like a great game plugin for rockbox :P |
| 02:38:02 | lostlogic | erus`: did you try the menu under "browse plugins"? :-P |
| 02:38:05 | BHSPitMonkey | erus`: they should already be on there |
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| 02:38:20 | | Quit Jungti1234 () |
| 02:38:25 | BHSPitMonkey | besides those included, there's only a couple unofficial ones floating around |
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| 02:39:32 | erus` | i heard there was gb emulator |
| 02:39:45 | erus` | my friend had it on his archos or whatever it was |
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| 02:40:17 | Benacool | nobody know about the radio? |
| 02:40:37 | lostlogic | Benacool: it works already afaik... what were you asking? |
| 02:40:37 | linuxstb | Benacool: What do you mean by "optimize" ? |
| 02:40:48 | lostlogic | erus`: there is rockboy. |
| 02:40:54 | Benacool | sorry, but it's Damn slow lol |
| 02:41:02 | lostlogic | how can a radio be slow? |
| 02:41:24 | Benacool | eh, imean that when you change of staion and you put volume up or down |
| 02:41:37 | Benacool | verry lag |
| 02:42:00 | Benacool | it's* |
| 02:42:52 | Benacool | take something like 2 min to go from 87mhz to 107mhz |
| 02:42:52 | Hostile | does rockboy work on the iPod? |
| 02:43:19 | Kensir | that would be great if it did |
| 02:43:32 | Hostile | yes it would |
| 02:43:37 | Benacool | that's what i mean by optimization |
| 02:43:41 | Benacool | ;-) |
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| 02:44:05 | lostlogic | hm... why would volume changing be slower on radio than on playback, very strange. |
| 02:44:12 | kahm | whats rockboy |
| 02:44:13 | Benacool | yea i know ... |
| 02:44:35 | Benacool | when i put the boost ratio to 1 all this la disapear |
| 02:44:50 | Benacool | (cpu at 124 mhz) |
| 02:44:57 | Hostile | lostlogic: he's saying its slow to change frequencies i think? |
| 02:44:59 | Benacool | lag* |
| 02:45:03 | Hostile | or no? |
| 02:45:10 | Benacool | yea AND the volume |
| 02:45:14 | lostlogic | so the difference is probably just that during radio, it never boosts normally |
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| 02:45:23 | lostlogic | where in audio playback it boosts sometimes making it feel faster |
| 02:45:23 | erus` | rockboy not included with the 5g distro |
| 02:45:24 | Benacool | something like that |
| 02:45:26 | erus` | will it work? |
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| 02:45:40 | BHSPitMonkey | bootloader makes me a little insane |
| 02:45:42 | linuxstb | erus`: Yes, Rockboy is included in Rockbox for the 5g. |
| 02:46:04 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb: if it was forced to be included in a nano build, would it work, just clipped? |
| 02:46:10 | lostlogic | linuxstb: rockboy is a viewer for roms not a 'normal' plugin? |
| 02:46:16 | linuxstb | lostlogic: Yes. |
| 02:46:43 | Benacool | would be cool if someone could fix this boost bug in radio for h300 |
| 02:46:46 | kahm | oh yeah. gameboy. |
| 02:46:49 | lostlogic | Benacool: not a bug |
| 02:46:49 | kahm | does that work for ipod? |
| 02:46:56 | Benacool | but what it is ? |
| 02:46:59 | lostlogic | Benacool: if it boosted during radio, it would hurt battery performance a lot. |
| 02:47:02 | Hostile | Is rockboy and emulator or what? |
| 02:47:05 | BHSPitMonkey | mmhmm |
| 02:47:05 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: That depends how you force it in.... You will need to fix it. |
| 02:47:07 | erus` | aha thanks guys |
| 02:47:18 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb: what's "broken"? |
| 02:47:18 | Benacool | yea ... dont know how to call that sorry ^^ |
| 02:47:32 | Benacool | but you see what i mean? |
| 02:47:38 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: The lcd update code needs writing for the Nano. |
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| 02:47:46 | BHSPitMonkey | oh |
| 02:48:02 | erus` | is porting other stuff faily trivial? is rockbox like linux? |
| 02:48:08 | lostlogic | Benacool: I understand that you find the interface in radio to be laggy... I don't know that there is any particular work to improve those parts of the interface |
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| 02:48:55 | Benacool | the interface doesnt matter for me in radio.... it's just that it take ages to go form a statino to another |
| 02:48:58 | linuxstb | erus`: Most importantly, your ipod isn't a PC. That's the hardest thing when porting things. |
| 02:49:06 | Benacool | from* |
| 02:49:51 | Benacool | well thanks for your answer |
| 02:49:52 | erus` | ok, ty |
| 02:49:54 | Hostile | This plugin is a port of gnuboy to the iriver in order to play gameboy games |
| 02:49:56 | linuxstb | It's easier to port things to ipodlinux because Rockbox forces plugins to fit into a small amount of memory. |
| 02:49:59 | Hostile | Rockboy ^_^ |
| 02:50:02 | lostlogic | Hostile: yes |
| 02:50:06 | Hostile | Not for ipod. |
| 02:50:10 | kahm | Rockeybox! |
| 02:50:20 | kahm | RocketBox? |
| 02:50:27 | kahm | RockMEbox. |
| 02:50:33 | Benacool | ? |
| 02:50:42 | Benacool | kahm: ?? |
| 02:50:47 | lostlogic | Benacool: I'm sure there's improvement that can be made there... but I don't know that anyone's working on it yet |
| 02:50:51 | kahm | i donno. hah. |
| 02:51:06 | Benacool | lostlogic: okay, thanks for the info |
| 02:51:20 | linuxstb | Someone was working on a customisable radio screen - maybe he will also think about the speed problem. |
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| 02:52:02 | linuxstb | Maybe we simply need to boost the CPU whenever a key is pressed. But I can't do anything - I don't have a h300. |
| 02:52:29 | JdGordon | speed problem in the radio screen? |
| 02:52:34 | Benacool | yea |
| 02:52:45 | JdGordon | ye, i fixed that with my wps radio patch |
| 02:53:04 | linuxstb | How did you fix it? |
| 02:53:17 | Benacool | linuxstb: that's what i was thinking about... |
| 02:53:30 | Benacool | yea? cool |
| 02:53:35 | JdGordon | the origional code turned the cpu to idle while in the raido.. i just disabled the idle after a button press |
| 02:53:54 | JdGordon | it gets re-enabled if no button is pressed |
| 02:54:01 | lostlogic | ahhhh... that's why it's so much slower |
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| 02:54:09 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Sounds sensible to me. |
| 02:54:14 | Benacool | a patch that only remove the idle when a key is pressed would be cool |
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| 02:55:03 | JdGordon | excpet.. is it _ok_ to do enable_cpu_idle(true) heaps of times without turning it off between the calls? i have it under the buton check timeout if button == BUTTON_NONE |
| 02:55:42 | linuxstb | Check the source to the enable_cpu_idle() function and see.... |
| 02:55:51 | kahm | Isnt there a way to bypass the rocketbox firmware and get back into the original ipod firmware, some button press i though. |
| 02:56:02 | lostlogic | JdGordon: Why can't the radio thread just go to sleep and thereby have all threads sleeping when buttons aren't pressed, and then the kernel sleeps the CPU any way? |
| 02:56:06 | Hostile | hold menu while booting |
| 02:56:07 | kahm | why do i keep saying rocket.. |
| 02:56:52 | JdGordon | umm... |
| 02:58:18 | linuxstb | lostlogic: The CPU won't sleep forever - there is still the timer interrupt and the tick tasks being executed. |
| 02:59:07 | lostlogic | linuxstb: and that's not true if enable_cpu_idle has been called? |
| 02:59:40 | linuxstb | Yes - I thought you were suggesting to sleep instead of setting the cpu to idle. |
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| 03:00:21 | lostlogic | I was −− so enable_cpu_idle deactivates tick timer and tick tasks??? |
| 03:00:24 | JdGordon | while we r on the subject... does any1 who knows the wps code want to look at the patch and commit it if its ok? |
| 03:00:48 | Benacool | JdGordon: would be possible to you to make a patch with only the idle thing for the radio? |
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| 03:01:13 | linuxstb | lostlogic: No, but the tick timer will wake up the CPU - so we still want it to be clocked at the "idle" speed. |
| 03:01:29 | lostlogic | ah, I gotcha. |
| 03:01:31 | JdGordon | Benacool: ye i guess so |
| 03:01:46 | lostlogic | enable_cpu_idle ~= !boost_cpu |
| 03:02:03 | JdGordon | or just install the patch from the web with the wps stuff... your current wps will work fine with it |
| 03:02:05 | linuxstb | IIUC, "idle" = 11MHz, no boost = 45MHz, boost = 124MHz. |
| 03:02:06 | JdGordon | sort of.. |
| 03:02:09 | linuxstb | (or similar) |
| 03:02:10 | kahm | what about recording on the iPod with this, can that be done? |
| 03:02:23 | lostlogic | linuxstb: gotcha, didn't realize there was a 3rd CPU speed setting. |
| 03:02:27 | Benacool | yea would be a good idea also ;-) |
| 03:02:56 | linuxstb | lostlogic: I think it's only used in the radio screen. Maybe USB will use it as well. |
| 03:02:57 | JdGordon | Benacool: or.. or all u really need to do is comment out the call to send the cpu to idle mode |
| 03:03:22 | linuxstb | kahm: In theory, but it's not implemented yet. |
| 03:03:35 | Benacool | JdGordon: so if i remove it it stay at 45mhz ? |
| 03:03:40 | JdGordon | ye |
| 03:03:52 | JdGordon | i doubt it would eat your battery... |
| 03:03:52 | Benacool | in witch file lol ? |
| 03:03:59 | JdGordon | apps/recorder/radio.c |
| 03:04:00 | Benacool | wich* |
| 03:04:03 | Benacool | ok thx |
| 03:04:04 | lostlogic | which ;) |
| 03:04:10 | Benacool | eh lol |
| 03:04:16 | Benacool | which |
| 03:04:27 | JdGordon | cpu_idle_mode(true); |
| 03:04:30 | JdGordon | comment out that line |
| 03:04:47 | JdGordon | not sure line number coz my file has my patch.. |
| 03:04:57 | Benacool | yea |
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| 03:05:53 | Benacool | i think i'll suggest to needleboy to add this in his optimized build ;-) that's long to compile just for that lol |
| 03:06:30 | JdGordon | na, get him to add the whole patch.. hopefully some1 will commit it then to the cvs :D |
| 03:06:44 | * | lostlogic not knows radio WPS at all |
| 03:06:44 | Benacool | yea ;-) |
| 03:07:35 | Benacool | JdGordon: your patch is fearly stable now? |
| 03:07:47 | JdGordon | i havnt had any problems with it |
| 03:07:50 | Benacool | ok |
| 03:08:57 | Benacool | sure that would be better to have a separate wps for radio but it's already far better lol |
| 03:09:43 | JdGordon | well you still could... ive added a conditional tag so u can choose what to show in the raido and regular screens.. no reason why you couldnt have 2 different screens in the 1 file.. |
| 03:09:58 | Benacool | oh i see |
| 03:10:13 | Benacool | didn't know sry ;-) |
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| 03:17:03 | TrisMcC | hello all |
| 03:17:09 | Hostile | hello |
| 03:17:21 | TrisMcC | i have a simple question |
| 03:17:32 | TrisMcC | i just put rockbox on my 4g ipod |
| 03:17:33 | Benacool | JdGordon: i just sent a port on the h300 optimized thread about your patch |
| 03:17:37 | Benacool | post* |
| 03:17:48 | TrisMcC | when i'm in the WPS screen...how can i get back to the file browser? |
| 03:17:59 | linuxstb | Just press the centre (select) button. |
| 03:18:11 | TrisMcC | wow that worked |
| 03:18:16 | TrisMcC | I swear I tried that :) |
| 03:18:26 | linuxstb | It needs to be a "short press" - i.e. press and release. |
| 03:18:29 | Benacool | you maybe press it too long |
| 03:18:59 | TrisMcC | does rockbox do audio file bookmarking |
| 03:19:03 | TrisMcC | for long podcasts and stuff |
| 03:19:35 | JdGordon | yay.. so much for linux never crashing... stupid thing froze up on me... while at the console... |
| 03:20:50 | Benacool | lol... nothing's perfect eh.. |
| 03:21:41 | lostlogic | man, my linux boxen were crashing all of last week becaues of a bug in linux-2.6.16-rc2... rc3 is fine so far though ;) |
| 03:22:04 | Benacool | lol |
| 03:22:47 | Benacool | for now i learn unix/linux scripting but i still didn't installed it on my computer... |
| 03:23:03 | Benacool | damn nvraid ;-) |
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| 07:28:20 | JdGordon | any1 know a simple script to append a new line at the end of every file in a directory? |
| 07:28:31 | JdGordon | .. on linux... |
| 07:35:31 | Mikachu | for a in *;do echo hi >> $a;done |
| 07:35:59 | Mikachu | if you type > instead of >> all files will be _replaced_ with hi so be careful |
| 07:36:21 | JdGordon | will \n work ? |
| 07:36:34 | Mikachu | if you just do echo it will print a newline automatically |
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| 08:52:01 | B4gder | is Jeff away or something? anyone know? |
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| 08:55:11 | ScoTTie | just installed rockbox on my mini, is there anyway to unmirror the screen ? |
| 08:55:35 | B4gder | I didn't know it even worked on the mini |
| 08:55:57 | ScoTTie | well it doesnt really |
| 08:55:59 | B4gder | ScoTTie: I assume "mirrroring" is a bug so it'd take a bug fix |
| 08:56:26 | ScoTTie | yeah same, just could be some config problem. thought i would check |
| 08:56:49 | B4gder | no, no config should be able to mess it up like that |
| 08:57:15 | ScoTTie | actually your right, i forgot to copy the .rockbox folder on and it was still reversed |
| 08:57:27 | ScoTTie | also looks like its formatted for a larger 4g screen |
| 08:57:53 | B4gder | so what version are you running on it? |
| 08:57:57 | B4gder | 4g grayscale? |
| 08:58:01 | ScoTTie | yep |
| 08:58:24 | JdGordon | isnt the mini diff hardware? |
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| 08:59:00 | ScoTTie | 4g is a rather broad term |
| 08:59:00 | B4gder | right, the 4g grayscale has a bigger lcd than the mini |
| 08:59:20 | B4gder | we'll need to make a special mini version |
| 08:59:43 | B4gder | ScoTTie: you're welcome to help us out on this |
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| 09:00:08 | ScoTTie | but.. when i created the rockboot.bin file. it gave me the msg "Generating firmware image compatible with iPod mini, 4g and iPod photo/color..." |
| 09:00:21 | ScoTTie | or is that just generic ? |
| 09:00:23 | B4gder | right |
| 09:00:28 | B4gder | but no dev I know of has a mini |
| 09:00:42 | B4gder | I think it was a slightly wrong assumption |
| 09:00:56 | B4gder | or perhaps |
| 09:01:00 | B4gder | the bootloader could be the same |
| 09:01:08 | B4gder | but the actual rockbox needs to differ |
| 09:01:21 | ScoTTie | nah, i noticed the bootloader was mirrored and to big |
| 09:01:24 | B4gder | (I'm not an iPod owner mysefl) |
| 09:01:38 | ScoTTie | im willing to test stuff out on my mini if you guys like |
| 09:01:46 | ScoTTie | im not much of a coder myself |
| 09:01:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | ScoTTie: That ipod_fw utility is actually the one iPodLinux uses, and that message is just a holdover since the project is in-development, and the so if you're seeing that message you should know the status of the version you're working in. ;-) |
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| 09:02:14 | B4gder | ScoTTie: linuxstb is one of the main Rockbox ipod devs, I'm sure he'll be interested in your testing |
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| 09:04:58 | ScoTTie | ok cool |
| 09:05:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | ScoTTie: As well, technically the firmware image *was* compatible, since it booted. It just wasn't bug-free. |
| 09:05:58 | * | Paul_The_Nerd grins |
| 09:06:12 | Bg3r | LinusN: arround ? |
| 09:06:16 | ScoTTie | yeah i gathered that ;) |
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| 09:06:20 | JdGordon | is the reason why usbotg doesnt work on us h300 only because the 2nd usb port isnt powered? like could u wire 5v from somewhere else to get it to work? |
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| 09:06:36 | LinusN | Bg3r: yup |
| 09:06:37 | webguest98 | hello |
| 09:06:42 | JdGordon | or is it much easier to just make the powered cable? |
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| 09:06:45 | ScoTTie | /bootloader is the ipod one yeah ? |
| 09:06:48 | webguest98 | maybe you already noticed it, the forums are down. |
| 09:06:57 | Bg3r | do you have a little time to look at some changes in button.c for hxxx remotes ? |
| 09:07:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: I've heard of people running the wire over before, so I *think* that works |
| 09:07:16 | LinusN | Bg3r: will do in a little while |
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| 09:07:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | ScoTTie: /bootloader contains code for all the bootloaders, really. Why? |
| 09:07:18 | webguest98 | Database Error |
| 09:07:28 | Bg3r | okay |
| 09:07:33 | * | JdGordon isnt really sure how badly i want usbotg tho :p not sure if i want to hack up my player... |
| 09:07:33 | ScoTTie | was wondering where it stores the screensize |
| 09:07:45 | needleboy | morning people |
| 09:08:37 | needleboy | who's responsible for the build system for the bleeding edge builds? |
| 09:08:50 | needleboy | responsible = who's messing with it ;) |
| 09:08:54 | B4gder | ScoTTie: for rockbox, you need to create a new device in firmare/export/config-*.h style and set the lcd size fine |
| 09:09:50 | | Part webguest98 |
| 09:10:02 | needleboy | B4gder? |
| 09:11:20 | ScoTTie | ok thanks |
| 09:14:43 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:16:53 | ScoTTie | are there any procompiled build tools for win32/cygwin ? |
| 09:17:06 | needleboy | the devkit is |
| 09:17:09 | B4gder | ScoTTie: yeps, check the wiki |
| 09:17:12 | needleboy | but it's not really recommended |
| 09:17:26 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 09:17:33 | midkay | the cygwin install is very simple, effectively precompiled.. |
| 09:17:36 | midkay | yes, that link. :) |
| 09:18:00 | midkay | while i'm here, i wanted to ask about the rules for plugins/SOURCES |
| 09:18:03 | ScoTTie | ah sweet, you've got it all setup for cygwin |
| 09:18:15 | midkay | i didn't study it for more than half a minute, but.. should a plugin not appear twice in there? |
| 09:18:25 | midkay | clock doesn't currently seem to fit any of the configurations listed. |
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| 09:18:58 | midkay | but i'm planning on expanding it to most/all models in any case, so maybe it's not an important question yet |
| 09:20:07 | B4gder | midkay: SOURCES should list all files to build |
| 09:20:21 | midkay | B4gder, i mean, is it "alright" for a plugin to appear in two sections? |
| 09:20:38 | midkay | i don't see any duplicates in there, which leads me to believe that it's frowned upon.. |
| 09:20:42 | B4gder | midkay: there are no actual "sections", only different ifdef rules |
| 09:20:52 | midkay | B4gder, consider those sections then :) |
| 09:20:54 | B4gder | and yes, we avoid listing files twice |
| 09:21:39 | midkay | yeah, i thought so.. so .. assuming i have iriver H300, ipod nano/video, and archos recorder support.. i don't believe there's one place clock.c can go to support all of them at once. |
| 09:21:50 | B4gder | sure there is |
| 09:22:06 | B4gder | #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP |
| 09:22:08 | B4gder | clock.c |
| 09:22:09 | B4gder | #endif |
| 09:22:10 | B4gder | there |
| 09:22:18 | midkay | .. ondio? |
| 09:22:21 | B4gder | or even, you could have the if check in the source |
| 09:22:23 | midkay | .. iriver h100? |
| 09:22:30 | B4gder | and have it *unconditional* in SOURCES |
| 09:22:38 | midkay | yeah, that could work. |
| 09:23:13 | midkay | this is all hypothetical, though. i simplified it majorly to simply needing five keys. that guarantees compatibility with all models, i believe. it's just a matter of key selection, then.. |
| 09:23:19 | midkay | sorry. six. :) |
| 09:24:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Or you could just do HAVE_LCDBITMAP && !(CONFIG_KEYPAD != ONDIO_PAD) etc. I mean, you can create a new section. |
| 09:24:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, and whatever check is necessary to say "and it's not an H100" |
| 09:25:09 | * | LinusN is tempted to patch the iriver firmware rtc handling |
| 09:25:22 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, yeah, there's an idea, thanks.. i was just curious if duplicates were a-OK, discouraged, or altogether avoided.. and whether rearranging was a good idea.. i shouldn't need to, though. :) |
| 09:26:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | LinusN: Patch it how? |
| 09:26:28 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha.. #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP && !(CONFIG_KEYPAD == ONDIO_PAD) && AND_ITS_NOT_AN_H100 |
| 09:26:29 | midkay | :D |
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| 09:26:42 | LinusN | so it does the right thing instead of their lame years-since-1965 approach |
| 09:26:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Figure you meant that. |
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| 09:27:13 | midkay | now i'm really tempted to say #define AND_ITS_NOT_AN_H100 !(CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD) or something and use AND_ITS_NOT... in my code. :) |
| 09:27:45 | B4gder | midkay: you want devices with RTC only, right? |
| 09:28:05 | midkay | B4gder, ah, yes, that would be the criteria then.. offhand, does anybody know which models those all are? |
| 09:28:15 | B4gder | then check for RTC and not models |
| 09:28:27 | midkay | B4gder, makes sense, thanks :) |
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| 09:29:01 | B4gder | #if (CONFIG_RTC > 0) && defined(HAVE_LCD_BITMAP) |
| 09:29:02 | B4gder | perhaps |
| 09:29:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: There should be a define that is something like IT_IS_A_PLAYER_THAT_IS_NOT_INCOMPATIBLE_WITH_ALL_NON_MONOCHROME_OR_GRAYSCALE_LCD_CONTAINING_PLAYER_DEFINES |
| 09:29:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just something incredibly unwieldly and horrifying |
| 09:29:43 | amiconn | midkay: The clock depends on bitmap lcd and RTC present, right? |
| 09:30:35 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, hahahahaha |
| 09:30:40 | * | amiconn should read up first |
| 09:31:05 | midkay | amiconn, exactly.. there aren't any non-bitmap lcds with RTCs currently supported afaik (unless the player has an rtc, i can't remember..).. |
| 09:31:20 | amiconn | no |
| 09:31:29 | midkay | either way, should do a check for bitmap lcd and rtc present, for future models or whatever |
| 09:32:12 | midkay | B4gder, wouldn't #if (CONFIG_RTC > 0) be the same as #if CONFIG_RTC? |
| 09:32:25 | B4gder | yes it is |
| 09:32:27 | safetydan | amiconn, sorry about that playersim thing, I don't think I meant to commit that change |
| 09:32:38 | midkay | oh, it's an ifdef.. |
| 09:32:52 | amiconn | safetydan: Took me quite some time to figure it out... |
| 09:32:56 | midkay | so.. devices with color LCDs are considered bitmap, right? |
| 09:33:07 | amiconn | Anyway, now the sdl player sim is almost usable |
| 09:33:21 | amiconn | The only oddity is that the icon update is lagging |
| 09:33:54 | midkay | in other words, bitmap lcd is defined as an lcd that's not charcells? |
| 09:34:09 | Bg3r | midkay yep |
| 09:34:21 | B4gder | no bitmap lcd means the lcd is bitmapped |
| 09:34:31 | B4gder | charcell means its charcell |
| 09:34:48 | midkay | B4gder, is there any other type of LCD than charcell or bitmapped? |
| 09:34:51 | Bg3r | B4gder huh ? |
| 09:35:03 | B4gder | midkay: no |
| 09:35:06 | midkay | thus couldn't you say bitmapped == !charcelled? |
| 09:35:14 | B4gder | I mean that the type doesn't actually say what at IT IS NOT |
| 09:35:15 | midkay | sorry, bitmapped != charcelled. |
| 09:35:15 | midkay | :) |
| 09:35:17 | safetydan | amiconn, the drawdots and drawrectangles functions in lcd-charcell.c aren't that great |
| 09:35:27 | midkay | B4gder, ah, yes, i know, i was just rephrasing :) |
| 09:35:33 | Bg3r | for color targets there is HAVE_LCD_COLOR as well |
| 09:35:35 | safetydan | amiconn, there's probably no need to SDL_MapRGB for each pixel, caching the result might make a difference |
| 09:35:40 | amiconn | midkay: No, but there is a third option when neither is defined |
| 09:35:43 | midkay | i wanted to make sure bitmap meant monochrome, grayscale and color.. |
| 09:36:03 | amiconn | Maybe one day rockbox will support devices with no lcd at all... |
| 09:36:15 | B4gder | midkay: yes it does, bitmap lcd means it is graphical and doesn't assume any color or greyscale level |
| 09:36:16 | midkay | amiconn, haha. |
| 09:36:27 | midkay | *pictures ipod shuffle*.. voicing menus. :) |
| 09:36:57 | midkay | B4gder, great, thanks |
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| 09:37:04 | amiconn | Yes. I can't see what's funny with this. |
| 09:37:25 | amiconn | In fact supporting a no-lcd target would be a great chance to improve voice menus |
| 09:38:03 | Bg3r | how many buttons does the shuffle have ? |
| 09:38:43 | midkay | amiconn, haha, it makes sense, sorry.. i was just picturing contrast/backlight settings and wps features.. stuff that obviously would be removed for no-LCD builds. never mind :) |
| 09:39:06 | LinusN | a talking clock would be sooooo cool |
| 09:39:16 | midkay | LinusN, is that a challenge? :) |
| 09:39:51 | midkay | what a bastard.. ;) i guess i won't be finishing that clock update this week at all :)) |
| 09:41:49 | JdGordon | nice work on the colour jpeg viewing.. (finally got around to updating rb) |
| 09:41:58 | qwm | are you a coder LinusN ? |
| 09:42:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bg34: I think it has 4 or 5. But I'm only remembering from pictures. |
| 09:42:25 | LinusN | qwm: you can call it that, yes |
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| 09:43:45 | Bg3r | hm, maybe i should edit the lcd_enable() ... |
| 09:44:32 | qwm | LinusN: then you might be able to fix broken code. am i correct? |
| 09:45:24 | LinusN | qwm: yes, but we are many who can do that |
| 09:47:42 | qwm | aware of the ldcpp project? it has a lot of broken code that needs fixing. |
| 09:47:46 | * | qwm giggles |
| 09:48:00 | B4gder | ldcpp? |
| 09:48:11 | * | Paul_The_Nerd rolls his eyes. |
| 09:48:24 | B4gder | is that the only project around with broken code? ;-) |
| 09:48:39 | qwm | hopefully, yes. :P |
| 09:48:44 | midkay | _haha_. the X5. "COLOR SOUND" next to the LCD.. if there's anything less-cool, i've no idea what it is. :) |
| 09:48:51 | LinusN | directconnect? |
| 09:48:58 | qwm | right. |
| 09:50:10 | LinusN | i don't think i have time to be involved in yet another project |
| 09:50:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: So, can they tell me what blue sounds like? |
| 09:50:34 | B4gder | so what is ldcpp? |
| 09:50:39 | B4gder | google does tell me |
| 09:50:42 | B4gder | doesn't |
| 09:50:51 | LinusN | http://ldcpp.berlios.de/index.html |
| 09:50:59 | qwm | B4gder: the dc++ core with a gtk2 ui.. |
| 09:51:02 | B4gder | ah |
| 09:51:08 | B4gder | how boring |
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| 09:51:12 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha, apprently ;) |
| 09:51:26 | midkay | i'm very interested in what black sound might sound like. |
| 09:52:35 | JdGordon | something like cradle of filth i would presume :p |
| 09:53:26 | midkay | haha. |
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| 09:53:58 | midkay | just for the fun of it, i googled "iaudio color sound".. one of the results: ... By the way. What is color sound. I think that sounds silly. I haven't yet figure it out. ... |
| 09:54:28 | midkay | To the left of the screen are the words “COLOR SOUND” which I’m not impressed with ... |
| 09:54:38 | midkay | Corny "color sound" on screen; easy to lose port attachment; ... |
| 09:54:40 | midkay | it goes on and on. :) |
| 09:55:19 | midkay | [i'd assume talking about the LCD] While it could have possibly been larger had the “Color Sound” logo been ... |
| 09:55:46 | B4gder | I doubt they picked a smaller just to fit the text |
| 09:55:56 | midkay | and yeah, the color sound thing seems dumb, but it has something to do with ... |
| 09:56:27 | midkay | Well there's a cpmtemder for Cowon's "Color Sound" in the weirdness category. |
| 09:56:28 | midkay | haha. |
| 09:56:54 | LinusN | Bg3r: which of the 3 remote patches is the latest and greatest? |
| 09:57:24 | LinusN | this one? |
| 09:57:25 | LinusN | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439120&aid=1424403&group_id=44306 |
| 09:59:15 | midkay | ... WTF with the writing on the left of the screen saying "color sound"? ... |
| 09:59:27 | midkay | hahaha, i'm deriving extreme enjoyment from this. |
| 09:59:35 | midkay | THANK YOU IAUDIO! |
| 09:59:42 | midkay | i should buy one of their players or something. to support them. |
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| 10:00:05 | LinusN | the x5 hardware isn't that shabby |
| 10:00:29 | B4gder | and its still being sold ;-) |
| 10:00:38 | midkay | LinusN, they could use slightly better people in charge of case design ;) |
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| 10:00:56 | midkay | ... is that "color sound" text on the side of the screen. don't know why that's there. .. |
| 10:01:09 | B4gder | midkay: you think the h3x0 is good case design? |
| 10:01:14 | LinusN | maybe it sounds cool to koreans? |
| 10:01:29 | midkay | B4gder, i haven't really seen it. much better than COLOR SOUND, i think. :) |
| 10:01:34 | qwm | at least you guys listened to me. thanks. |
| 10:01:38 | midkay | LinusN, haha, it's obviously Babelfish translated. :) |
| 10:01:50 | B4gder | I think the iAudios are cooler designed than the iriver h3x0 models |
| 10:02:02 | B4gder | but sure, the text is silly |
| 10:02:16 | midkay | B4gder, in all honesty i took one glance at it, saw the COLOR SOUND text, and immediately went on a google search.. |
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| 10:02:44 | midkay | ... Why did they ruin it by having “Color Sound” on the side of the screen? ... |
| 10:02:55 | B4gder | I disagree |
| 10:03:05 | B4gder | the text means nothing |
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| 10:03:31 | LinusN | i couldn't care less what is written on the case |
| 10:03:32 | B4gder | all players have silly texts or markers, I tend to ignore |
| 10:03:41 | midkay | B4gder, no, it's not a big deal, i found it funny though, i just mean i didn't inspect the case :) |
| 10:03:55 | LinusN | "multi-codec jukebox" is pretty silly as well, imho |
| 10:03:55 | B4gder | so why call it "ruin" ? |
| 10:04:02 | midkay | LinusN, haha, agreed :) |
| 10:04:13 | midkay | B4gder, huh? those are quotes found with google |
| 10:04:32 | B4gder | _that_ is not clear to me |
| 10:04:44 | midkay | just seeing what others think.. a pretty much unanimous "wtf" :) |
| 10:05:20 | B4gder | well, when you blurt out things here it isn't evident that you're qouting someone else |
| 10:05:32 | * | JdGordon recons NAVI is about the stupedest thing ever put on a dap cover.. :p |
| 10:05:42 | midkay | B4gder, i said earlier i was googling.. |
| 10:05:48 | B4gder | yes, and then you said a lot more |
| 10:05:56 | midkay | B4gder, i didn't mean i was done :) |
| 10:05:59 | B4gder | are you still pasting things from google? |
| 10:06:07 | B4gder | or is this you? |
| 10:06:07 | midkay | haha. |
| 10:06:09 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 10:06:24 | midkay | <end google> |
| 10:06:25 | midkay | :) |
| 10:06:28 | B4gder | aaahh |
| 10:06:49 | midkay | i copied the "..."s from the search engine in an attempt to make it clearer.. |
| 10:06:53 | midkay | clearly, i suck. |
| 10:06:53 | midkay | :) |
| 10:07:21 | B4gder | I don't have this utf8 enabled so those letters came out garbage in my end |
| 10:07:36 | B4gder | ah |
| 10:07:39 | B4gder | never mind |
| 10:07:49 | * | B4gder goes to pretend working instead |
| 10:07:51 | midkay | haha |
| 10:11:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oooh, I found a pretty significant bug in the iPod Nano (or H120, I'm not sure which). On one, left/right audio channels are reversed. |
| 10:11:20 | LinusN | Bg3r: there? |
| 10:12:31 | midkay | ok, now's a good time to ask this. who is WHO? Bagder == B4gder? b4gder == Bg3r?! Bagder == Bg3r?!?!? :) |
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| 10:13:04 | B4gder | we are all just figments of your imagination, we don't exist! |
| 10:13:20 | LinusN | midkay: bg3r != Bagder |
| 10:13:26 | Bg3r | LinusN yep |
| 10:13:31 | muesli__ | B4gder no beer before 4pm ;-) |
| 10:13:36 | midkay | B4gder, i knew it.. it's the Truman Show IN REAL LIFE! |
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| 10:14:05 | LinusN | Bg3r: what is the idea behind the BUTTON_RC3_xxx defines? |
| 10:14:17 | Bg3r | huh ? |
| 10:14:23 | Bg3r | they are not mine ? |
| 10:15:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there anyone else here with an iPod, preferably non-Nano? |
| 10:15:09 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, me, 5g! |
| 10:15:15 | * | midkay raises hand and shakes it rapidly back and forth |
| 10:15:22 | Bg3r | LinusN where did you see them ? |
| 10:15:48 | LinusN | in the remote v2.02 patch |
| 10:15:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Do you have any very *clearly* stereo audio files (where you can clearly hear a sound in only one ear or much more strongly in one)? |
| 10:15:56 | LinusN | from takka, i believe |
| 10:16:12 | Bg3r | haven't looked at them .. |
| 10:16:21 | muesli__ | LinusN do you see chances for http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1401551&group_id=44306&atid=439120 ? |
| 10:16:21 | LinusN | which one am i supposed to look at? |
| 10:16:21 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, hm. |
| 10:16:26 | midkay | yeah. |
| 10:16:41 | Bg3r | LinusN i'd like to send you a diff of button.c |
| 10:16:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Could you listen to it on your 5g, and I suppose on your PC, and see if the channels are reversed on the iPod? |
| 10:17:20 | Bg3r | i haven't looked at these patches |
| 10:17:25 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, on the ipod in general or specifically on rockbox? |
| 10:17:26 | LinusN | muesli__: ah, that looks better |
| 10:18:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Rockbox, sorry. |
| 10:18:11 | muesli__ | :-) my remote doesnt work without that patch..i am really lookin forward... |
| 10:18:13 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, sure.. one sec |
| 10:18:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Thanks. That might tell me if it's iPod specific, or 4G/Nano specific. |
| 10:19:02 | LinusN | Bg3r: have a diff? |
| 10:19:03 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, oh, crap. |
| 10:19:19 | midkay | F00, F01, F02.. :) |
| 10:19:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: ? |
| 10:19:38 | * | LinusN fills his cup with black goo |
| 10:19:43 | midkay | ipod's music system.. :\ |
| 10:19:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, right |
| 10:19:51 | midkay | hrm. |
| 10:20:21 | midkay | by the way, do you know the status of id3 databases + ipod?.. made one and tried to use it, i get some data abort error or something.. |
| 10:20:42 | midkay | i'll find the file, one sec |
| 10:20:43 | B4gder | midkay: no one seems to care enough about it to work on that |
| 10:20:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: *really* not working right now. Since that's the old stuff, when it didn't work with the iPod port, nobody's really bothered to since it's probably being deprecated. |
| 10:21:02 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah, alright. |
| 10:21:07 | midkay | and B4gder ;) |
| 10:21:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Once the new TagCache happens, then efforts will of course go into making that work on iPod I imagine. |
| 10:21:34 | midkay | cool, sounds good |
| 10:24:26 | qwm | BHSPitLappy: what kind of a nick is Lappy? |
| 10:24:40 | LinusN | as in "laptop" maybe? |
| 10:25:15 | moozooh | <strike>lap dance</strike> |
| 10:26:31 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, hmm. |
| 10:27:03 | midkay | it's quite clearly coming from the left channel at the beginning on PC+ipod default firmware. but on rockbox it's almost even on left and right channels.. it overall sounds considerably different. |
| 10:27:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 10:27:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Right, 5gs have the mono bug. |
| 10:27:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Forgot about that |
| 10:27:32 | midkay | oh, blah. :) |
| 10:27:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which defeats the purpose of asking what channel it's in. ;-) |
| 10:29:38 | midkay | oh, i changed my mind, it's clearly on the right channel!!!! ;) |
| 10:29:40 | warewolf | "the mono bug" ? |
| 10:30:07 | midkay | warewolf, hm, some bug related to having mono sound, i'd guess :) |
| 10:30:30 | warewolf | that was a microsoft answer. |
| 10:30:52 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: care to describe what the mono bug is and what causes it? |
| 10:30:59 | * | linuxstb has found a GPL'd Pacman emulator: http://www.ascotti.org/programming/pie/pie.htm |
| 10:31:06 | preglow | it's not mame! |
| 10:31:34 | midkay | warewolf, sorry, you wanted: there's an address violation at 0x000525, so we've disabled the audio bit header for the left channel. |
| 10:31:37 | midkay | whatever that just meant. |
| 10:31:39 | preglow | anyone feel like investigating further on why frequency changing does not work as it should on 4g ipods? |
| 10:31:42 | preglow | :> |
| 10:32:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | warewolf: The mono bug is "audio on 5g seems to be in mono for a group of people that may or may not be 'all of them'" |
| 10:32:12 | linuxstb | I can try this evening. |
| 10:32:25 | preglow | ok, i'll make a patch for you |
| 10:32:32 | warewolf | Paul_The_Nerd: *blink* |
| 10:32:32 | preglow | i'm back to no time for rockbox mdoe |
| 10:32:34 | preglow | mode, even |
| 10:32:38 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, hahahaha |
| 10:32:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow, linuxstb: Okay, so besides audio on 5g being mono according to forum goers, audio on Nano has its channels reversed (at least on mine. Haven't gotten someone else to confirm yet, wink wink nudge nudge) |
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| 10:33:28 | preglow | than can be corrected |
| 10:33:30 | preglow | that |
| 10:34:23 | preglow | but yeah, suddenly the dates in the cvs id: lines are starting to differ between local and cvs copies here, why the hell is this? |
| 10:34:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I imagined it wasn't very near the "Alright, give me a few weeks and a thousand cups of coffee" difficulty level. ;-) Just kinda surprised nobody's mentioned it. |
| 10:34:39 | preglow | dashes are replaced by slashes... |
| 10:35:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, I hadn't noticed it until today, but at the same time, now that I have I recall this song has always started in my left ear on Nano-Rockbox. |
| 10:35:56 | preglow | at least the balance is the right way |
| 10:36:06 | preglow | so the fiq driver is probably what's to blame |
| 10:37:59 | safetydan | preglow, I think the CVS date thing is something to do with your locale |
| 10:38:10 | preglow | i haven't changed my locale... |
| 10:38:27 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: it might even be a bug i've introduced recently |
| 10:38:36 | preglow | but then it should affect all ipods |
| 10:39:20 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: you know, it is, i forgot arm is little endian |
| 10:39:28 | * | Paul_The_Nerd grins. |
| 10:39:38 | preglow | but this destroys the fine elegance of my fiq routine! |
| 10:40:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well _I_ don't have anything where it matters if the channels are reversed. |
| 10:40:16 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: you can do your own compiles, yes? |
| 10:40:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 10:40:38 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: One way to fix would be to reverse them in the DAC - change line 141 in firmware/drivers/wm8975 from 0x42 to 0x62. |
| 10:40:45 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: firmware/pcm_playback.c line 503, change the #if 1 to if 0 and see if it's corrected |
| 10:40:57 | linuxstb | But yes, try preglow's suggestion first... |
| 10:41:04 | preglow | i'm pretty sure this is my mistake |
| 10:41:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, building. I'll let you know after cygwin chugs its way through |
| 10:42:29 | preglow | hrmph, i might need to go back to reading halfwords |
| 10:42:37 | preglow | since i only have one register free |
| 10:43:11 | preglow | linuxstb: or do you know if it's easyish to just make the fifo take 16 bit numbers? |
| 10:45:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Your change did fix it. |
| 10:48:04 | preglow | yeah, ok |
| 10:48:08 | LinusN | petur: there? |
| 10:48:11 | preglow | i'll fix the fiq thing later |
| 10:48:47 | petur | LinusN: sort of... ;) |
| 10:49:02 | ScoTTie | do you need ./flash/bootbox to compile a bootloader for an iPod ? |
| 10:49:02 | LinusN | i'm disassembling the h300 firmware |
| 10:49:17 | petur | I know |
| 10:49:51 | warewolf | otay |
| 10:49:52 | warewolf | I suck |
| 10:49:53 | warewolf | BUT |
| 10:49:56 | warewolf | I am useful |
| 10:50:06 | warewolf | who needs a mp3 that is stereo that will start off left, go center, then go right? |
| 10:50:09 | warewolf | :) |
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| 10:50:20 | * | petur hopes Linus found something isp1362 related |
| 10:50:24 | LinusN | petur: HC data port: 0xc0000000 |
| 10:50:31 | LinusN | petur: HC cmd port: 0xc0000002 |
| 10:50:39 | LinusN | petur: DC data port: 0xc0000004 |
| 10:50:44 | LinusN | petur: DC cmd port: 0xc0000006 |
| 10:51:21 | petur | tried that (except I mapped it on 0x3000000n) |
| 10:51:48 | petur | in fact, it was the first thing I tried when I discovered A0 is not external |
| 10:51:49 | LinusN | csar3 = 0xc0000000 |
| 10:52:02 | LinusN | csmr3 = 0xf0001 |
| 10:52:12 | LinusN | cscr3 = 0x2180 |
| 10:52:28 | petur | whoa... waitstates |
| 10:52:53 | petur | thanks a lot... |
| 10:53:00 | petur | will try this tonight |
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| 10:53:40 | petur | found anything on the HC/DC enable pins? |
| 10:53:52 | LinusN | not yet |
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| 10:58:41 | KiBi | Hi. |
| 11:00 |
| 11:00:22 | KiBi | Just discovered this project, and I was wondering whether other similar projects exist, e.g. for Creative players to bring them ogg support, or something like that. |
| 11:00:34 | B4gder | nope |
| 11:00:50 | B4gder | but you can start a rockbox port for it! ;-) |
| 11:00:53 | KiBi | :) |
| 11:01:22 | * | KiBi wishes he had time for all what he wants to do. :) |
| 11:02:13 | KiBi | B4gder: Thanks for the quick answer, and have fun with this project. :-) |
| 11:02:32 | B4gder | oh we do! |
| 11:02:47 | * | KiBi very happy that free software (& firmware) spreads. :-) |
| 11:03:06 | B4gder | KiBi: next time, get a rockbox-compliant music player |
| 11:03:08 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 11:03:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
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| 11:03:32 | KiBi | B4gder: 3 weeks too late. :-) |
| 11:03:36 | B4gder | return it |
| 11:03:41 | B4gder | fast! |
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| 11:03:49 | KiBi | :) |
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| 11:16:25 | linuxstb | preglow: Look in i2s_reset() in firmware/drivers/wm8975.c and try changing "FIFO.FORMAT". |
| 11:17:06 | Membrillo | where did the shoutbox go on MR? |
| 11:17:42 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: If you are trying to compile a Rockbox for the mini that are various small differences between a grayscale 4g and a mini that you will need to take account of, not just the LCD size. Someone needs to compare the drivers in Rockbox with the drivers in ipodlinux and implement those differences. |
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| 11:18:18 | ScoTTie | the button layout is different |
| 11:18:26 | ScoTTie | and the backlight aswell i think |
| 11:18:52 | ScoTTie | yeah i searched IPL's source for abit |
| 11:18:59 | ScoTTie | couldnt find the button layouts |
| 11:19:30 | linuxstb | What do you mean by button layout? Physically, it looks identical to me. |
| 11:19:39 | ScoTTie | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 11:20:00 | ScoTTie | no pysically |
| 11:20:10 | ScoTTie | not physically* |
| 11:20:17 | linuxstb | Yes - that table identifies where there are different code paths in the ipodlinux source. |
| 11:20:34 | ScoTTie | ah |
| 11:20:48 | linuxstb | The Rockbox button driver is in firmware/drivers/button.c and the ipodlinux one is in linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/keyboard.c |
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| 11:22:02 | linuxstb | If you want to start a port, you will first need to edit the tools/configure script to add the ipod mini as a new target. You will then need to create a config-ipodmini.h file in firmware/export/ and also edit config.h You will then need to go through Rockbox and implement the differences.... |
| 11:22:28 | ScoTTie | i hacked it up abit |
| 11:24:56 | ScoTTie | would IPOD_MINI1G be correct ? |
| 11:25:18 | linuxstb | Someone also needs to decide if the first and second generation minis are similar enough to mean they get a single build, or if they need two builds. |
| 11:25:36 | ScoTTie | IPL has only recently added support for G2 |
| 11:26:38 | linuxstb | I think we should try for one build - so call it IPOD_MINI for now. If it turns out in the future that we need two separate builds, then we can split it. |
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| 11:28:53 | midkay | ScoTTie, the keypad definition for 4g pads is IPOD_4G_PAD.. to keep consistency i'd suggest IPOD_MINI_1G if it came to needing seperate generation definitions |
| 11:29:03 | midkay | IPOD_MINI_1G_PAD* |
| 11:29:03 | linuxstb | You may find these two links useful - they are the changes to tools/configure and tools/scramble.c that were made to add the 3g and 4g grayscale to the build system: |
| 11:29:10 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/tools/configure.diff?r1=1.166&r2=1.167 |
| 11:29:16 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/tools/scramble.c.diff?r1=1.23&r2=1.24 |
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| 11:29:39 | linuxstb | Plus a change to firmware/export/config.h: |
| 11:29:40 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/export/config.h.diff?r1=1.55&r2=1.56 |
| 11:30:33 | ScoTTie | thanks |
| 11:31:29 | linuxstb | IMO, IPOD_MINI_PAD would be better.... |
| 11:32:29 | linuxstb | Unless you already know that there are two many differences between the two mini generations to mean we can't create a single build that will work on both. |
| 11:35:47 | linuxstb | Or if the changes are very minor between the Mini and other 4g button drivers, then it would be easier to just keep it as IPOD_4G_PAD and use #ifdef IPOD_MINI for those minor differences. |
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| 11:36:39 | linuxstb | It could be helpful to look at the ipodlinux source first, and note exactly how things differ between the two mini generations and the other 4g ipods. |
| 11:41:10 | midkay | linuxstb, that's what i meant (IPOD_MINI_1G_PAD if and only if you need seperate generations) :) |
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| 11:42:16 | IcyStorM | Hello, do you guys know about the brickmania bug? |
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| 11:42:42 | midkay | there's only one? ;) |
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| 11:44:37 | IcyStorM | The bug is corrected :) |
| 11:44:59 | IcyStorM | Is it possible to transfer my highscore into the new RockBox build? |
| 11:45:20 | LinusN | has the format changed? |
| 11:45:36 | IcyStorM | no ? |
| 11:45:44 | IcyStorM | But the bug with the "Glue" thing is gone :) |
| 11:46:18 | LinusN | i believe the highscore file isn't touched if you upgrade rockbox |
| 11:46:29 | IcyStorM | it is |
| 11:47:07 | LinusN | badness |
| 11:47:09 | IcyStorM | Anyway will it ever be possible to run Podzilla / Podzilla2 plugins (ipodlinux) in RockBox it would be very nice |
| 11:47:23 | LinusN | i doubt it veeeery much |
| 11:47:52 | preglow | too much work |
| 11:48:05 | IcyStorM | Ok |
| 11:48:14 | LinusN | IcyStorM: how do you upgrade rockbox? |
| 11:48:27 | IcyStorM | I downloaded new build and replaced the old one |
| 11:48:35 | LinusN | replaced, how? |
| 11:48:42 | IcyStorM | just pasted |
| 11:48:56 | LinusN | so you removed the old .rockbox dir? |
| 11:49:00 | IcyStorM | yeah :P |
| 11:49:11 | LinusN | that's why your highscores are lost |
| 11:49:17 | amiconn | linuxstb: Any news about building .h files for the bmp build system? |
| 11:49:57 | IcyStorM | Wouldnt it be possible to comiple Podzilla apps to work with RockBox then? its GPL and open source |
| 11:50:31 | preglow | rockbox is a much more minimal os than linux |
| 11:50:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Besides, if you really want podzilla apps, why not just boot into podzilla? |
| 11:50:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox and iPodLinux can peacefully coexist. |
| 11:50:52 | IcyStorM | Cuz podzilla doesnt work for 5G |
| 11:51:03 | preglow | booo |
| 11:51:06 | IcyStorM | a.k.a. the video ipod |
| 11:51:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | podzilla doesn't work at all? |
| 11:51:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | I thought the 5G code came from them... |
| 11:51:31 | IcyStorM | no its not supported |
| 11:51:36 | preglow | from linux, not podzilla |
| 11:51:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 11:51:38 | IcyStorM | Yeah it came from them |
| 11:51:54 | IcyStorM | So Rockbox is another linux distro for the iPod ? |
| 11:51:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | I thought that podzilla was maintained by the same people as the kernel patch, since the files are hosted in the same place. |
| 11:52:02 | preglow | IcyStorM: most of their targets aren't supported, but work anyway |
| 11:52:05 | preglow | IcyStorM: we don't use linux |
| 11:52:10 | preglow | IcyStorM: we use our own kernel |
| 11:52:15 | IcyStorM | anyway I gotta have breakfast |
| 11:52:20 | ScoTTie | linuxstb: are you testing on a 4g iPod ? |
| 11:52:21 | preglow | and rockbox is for more than the ipod |
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| 11:55:12 | preglow | linuxstb: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/ipod_cpuboost.patch |
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| 12:02:36 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: I have a 4G Color and a 5G (video). preglow has a Nano. We are the only two developers with ipods. |
| 12:03:06 | ScoTTie | does the 4g bootloader show correctly for you ? |
| 12:06:26 | linuxstb | Yes, the 4g color does. Others have reported the 4g grayscale does - it's completely different code. |
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| 12:07:01 | linuxstb | slimx: Welcome back :) |
| 12:07:26 | ScoTTie | sorry i ment 4g greyscale |
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| 12:07:43 | linuxstb | preglow: Is that patch the same as the rockbox.zip you gave me last night? |
| 12:07:44 | ScoTTie | i thought you had* |
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| 12:11:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I don't think that patch is the same, at least as the rockbox.zip he gave me. It may be the same code for the cpu speed stuff, but the rockbox.zip he gave me was considerably larger than the one I end up with using that patch. |
| 12:11:44 | preglow | linuxstb: should be |
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| 12:11:53 | preglow | linuxstb: not the same, but it contains the parts that should be relevant |
| 12:12:12 | linuxstb | Don't forget that the ipod4g should be the same as well. |
| 12:12:17 | preglow | this one doesn't contain rockmame, for one :-) |
| 12:12:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | That one had rockmame? |
| 12:12:38 | preglow | yes |
| 12:13:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Neat |
| 12:14:22 | linuxstb | amiconn: No, I haven't done anything with the .h files for bmp2rb. But I agree it should be a high priority. |
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| 12:16:26 | linuxstb | amiconn: My intention would be to implement it as a single .h file for each bitmap. This will also have the advantage of fixing the dependency issue - a .c file includes the .h for the bitmap, and the .h depends on the .bmp. |
| 12:16:30 | slimx | hy all i'm back :) |
| 12:16:39 | linuxstb | Finished the 3g port yet? |
| 12:16:41 | linuxstb | :) |
| 12:16:53 | slimx | nope |
| 12:17:07 | slimx | but my sky hollidays indeed |
| 12:17:10 | slimx | :) |
| 12:17:11 | linuxstb | I assume you saw amiconn's fixes in the lcd code. |
| 12:17:58 | slimx | i didn't updated for now my source tree |
| 12:18:21 | slimx | but i also have made some fixes |
| 12:18:25 | slimx | on it |
| 12:18:40 | linuxstb | There will probably be lots of conflicts then. |
| 12:18:46 | slimx | i'll have a look |
| 12:19:12 | linuxstb | Also, the last patch you posted to sourceforge didn't apply at all. There was something very odd with it. |
| 12:19:12 | slimx | np i'll replace with amnicon version if needed |
| 12:19:52 | slimx | mmm this one is old |
| 12:20:12 | slimx | it was a fix of the native bitmap drawing function |
| 12:20:39 | slimx | so i get the rockbox logo nicely drawn on my screen |
| 12:20:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, so it's only a 5% boost difference between a 128kbps and a 320kbps mp3 on my Nano. |
| 12:22:39 | slimx | the 3g port still freeze after showing the splash screen |
| 12:22:58 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, something weird's up |
| 12:22:59 | slimx | and i really don't know where is the problem |
| 12:23:34 | preglow | i wonder how long flac playback can keep going with boost code in, though |
| 12:23:39 | preglow | it should run at 30mhz constantly |
| 12:23:42 | linuxstb | Have you tried adding calls to splash() in the init() function in apps/main.c to see when it dies? |
| 12:24:08 | linuxstb | Or you could just move the call to show_logo() to different places. |
| 12:24:16 | slimx | i tried a lot of things |
| 12:24:26 | linuxstb | Do you know when in init() it fails? |
| 12:24:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: 30mhz constantly, and no spinup. Are you talking battery life test then? |
| 12:24:39 | slimx | it's unable to display strings |
| 12:25:00 | linuxstb | Try moving the show_logo() function to different places - that seems to work. |
| 12:25:02 | slimx | yes i tried to move the show_logo call |
| 12:25:37 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, i'm kind of curious exactly how much the cpu clock has to say for the batteyr |
| 12:25:42 | slimx | but it was freezing at the exact place where show_logo was |
| 12:26:31 | slimx | perhaps against current cvs it would work better |
| 12:26:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: I'll let you know then. I've got a couple albums of flac I can drop on there, and leave it running for a while. |
| 12:26:57 | linuxstb | slimx: Yes, try the new lcd code - maybe there was a bug there that could have caused the freeze. |
| 12:26:58 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: l33t |
| 12:27:19 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has to admit to his own curiosity. |
| 12:27:51 | JdGordon | *couph* radio wps patch *couph* |
| 12:27:56 | ScoTTie | hmm i changed the size of the screen to the native mini size and now appart from being mirrored it's also indented now |
| 12:27:58 | slimx | i will linuxstb |
| 12:27:59 | ScoTTie | which it wasnt before |
| 12:28:00 | slimx | :) |
| 12:28:06 | ScoTTie | when i was using the 4g size |
| 12:28:14 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Have you looked at the ipodlinux lcd driver? |
| 12:28:23 | linuxstb | You'll need to implement any differences. |
| 12:28:52 | linuxstb | linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/fb.c |
| 12:29:10 | linuxstb | And in Rockbox - firmware/drivers/lcd-ipod.c |
| 12:29:17 | slimx | also in tools/microwindows/drivers |
| 12:29:34 | slimx | ScoTTie, it could be easier to read |
| 12:29:47 | ScoTTie | ok thanks |
| 12:30:48 | linuxstb | slimx: Did you try removing the call to show_logo() completely ? |
| 12:30:56 | slimx | yes i did |
| 12:31:02 | slimx | and that was the same |
| 12:31:22 | slimx | i also tried to disable kernel_init and system_init |
| 12:31:28 | slimx | with empty call |
| 12:31:37 | slimx | as it is done in the bootloader |
| 12:31:51 | slimx | but it didn't work |
| 12:32:19 | slimx | that ugly bug looks really odd to me |
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| 12:34:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I'm going to get a little rest in. If the ogg test was any decent reference, I'll be up well before the battery dies. If somehow I'm not, there's something quite contrary to logic happening. |
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| 12:36:33 | preglow | ogg test? |
| 12:36:42 | linuxstb | slimx: Have you checked if the timer code is correct for the PP5002? |
| 12:36:55 | preglow | it probably isn't |
| 12:37:09 | linuxstb | Rockbox will freeze if you don't have the ticker interrupt working properly. |
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| 12:37:39 | preglow | then small wonder |
| 12:37:44 | preglow | timer addresses aren't even the same |
| 12:38:22 | linuxstb | That's taken care of in pp5002.h and pp5020.h |
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| 12:43:13 | slimx | mmm the timer code seem's correct yes |
| 12:43:51 | B4gder | LinusN: should we "downsize" the iaudio x5 config.h to 16 bits again if we're going for the lookup table in the lcd driver? |
| 12:43:51 | slimx | also set_cpu_speed and init_cache |
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| 12:44:34 | ScoTTie | hah |
| 12:45:06 | B4gder | LinusN: seems the most sensible to me |
| 12:45:07 | ScoTTie | i got it working for rockbox, but if it drops back to the apple firmware is screwed again ;p |
| 12:47:09 | linuxstb | Yes - some 4g grayscale users have reported problems. The LCD is mirrored in the Apple firmware. |
| 12:47:37 | linuxstb | I don't know how to fix that, apart from changing the bootloader so that it doesn't use the LCD. |
| 12:47:41 | ScoTTie | is there a list of what ipod's correspond to ipod_hw_ver |
| 12:47:56 | linuxstb | Yes - on the IpodPort page. |
| 12:48:26 | ScoTTie | does it correspond to IPL ? |
| 12:48:42 | slimx | yes |
| 12:48:43 | linuxstb | Yes - that value is read from a memory location in the ipod. |
| 12:48:51 | linuxstb | It's not specific to ipodlinux or Rockbox. |
| 12:49:53 | ScoTTie | is ipod_hw_ver the same as APPLE_* ? |
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| 12:50:30 | ScoTTie | sorry i mean MODEL_NUMBER |
| 12:51:45 | linuxstb | MODEL_NUMBER is a Rockbox thing. You'll need to use the next free number - just do "grep MODEL_NUMBER config-*.h" in firmware/export.h to see what that next number is. |
| 12:52:05 | linuxstb | You'll also need a four-character model name - I would suggest "mini". |
| 12:52:19 | linuxstb | (we use "nano" for the iPod Nano). |
| 12:52:23 | ScoTTie | you suggested well ;) |
| 12:52:29 | ScoTTie | i used mini |
| 12:52:37 | linuxstb | Unless we need two different mini builds.... |
| 12:52:50 | linuxstb | But hopefully we won't. |
| 12:53:28 | linuxstb | One potential problem is the IRAM - the first gen mini has 96KB (a PP5020 processor) and the second gen has 128KB (a PP5022). |
| 12:53:38 | LinusN | the model_number is a per-platform thing |
| 12:54:22 | linuxstb | What do you mean by platform? |
| 12:54:45 | * | linuxstb thinks he has misunderstood..... |
| 12:54:54 | LinusN | it's a think i introduced for the iriver bootloader to differ between the various images |
| 12:55:42 | linuxstb | I thought you used the four-character name - e.g. h120 |
| 12:56:16 | ScoTTie | might need to break up into 1st and 2nd gen |
| 12:56:33 | ScoTTie | actually no.. i cant read :) |
| 12:56:42 | LinusN | linuxstb: the model number is only a seed for the checksum algorithm |
| 12:57:52 | linuxstb | At the moment, each ipod has a unique four-character model name, and a unique model number. Was that the right thing to do? |
| 12:58:15 | LinusN | it doesn't matter if the model number is unique, maybe it is even a good thing |
| 12:59:26 | LinusN | if the binary is made with the -add method |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:41 | B4gder | LinusN: did you spot my x5 q about 40 lines up? |
| 13:00:45 | linuxstb | I'll leave everything as it is then. |
| 13:01:00 | * | LinusN scrolls back |
| 13:01:15 | LinusN | B4gder: yes |
| 13:01:31 | B4gder | ok, I'll commit a fix like that |
| 13:01:49 | linuxstb | B4gder: You'll be pleased to know I've decided to abandon mame - I've found a nice GPL'd pacman emulator I can port. All I need to do is convert it from C++ to C first.... |
| 13:01:58 | LinusN | i'm torn between the x5 and h300 ports... |
| 13:02:15 | LinusN | i want deluxe pacman |
| 13:02:23 | LinusN | the amiga version |
| 13:02:26 | JdGordon | linuxstb: :( pacman is pacman.. but game is anything .... |
| 13:02:51 | linuxstb | LinusN: You need a player with a nice 320x240 LCD.... |
| 13:03:02 | LinusN | hehe |
| 13:03:39 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I know - but IMO, it's not worth the hassle. I would prefer to keep things simple and use a GPL'd emulator. |
| 13:03:49 | JdGordon | ye, i understand |
| 13:04:18 | petur | LinusN, I assume you named the labels in the disassembly? |
| 13:04:35 | LinusN | petur: yes |
| 13:04:40 | linuxstb | And it seems that the Mame people are fully aware of the GPL conflict - it's not an accident. |
| 13:06:38 | preglow | no |
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| 13:06:42 | * | petur suddenly feels the need to learn m86k asm |
| 13:06:47 | preglow | petur: it's fun |
| 13:07:40 | petur | I used to do A51 asm... just need a nice doc with an overview. suggestions? |
| 13:08:00 | preglow | CFPRM.pdf is nice |
| 13:08:28 | petur | got an url or shall I google |
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| 13:08:33 | preglow | rockbox weiki |
| 13:08:34 | preglow | wiki |
| 13:08:36 | preglow | datasheets |
| 13:08:39 | petur | ok |
| 13:11:23 | B4gder | I've now stopped building win32 simulator in the cvs builds |
| 13:11:26 | JdGordon | whos the best person to talk to about the best way to store the users choice of colour for fore/background in rb? |
| 13:11:32 | B4gder | simulators |
| 13:11:56 | XavierGr | at last |
| 13:11:59 | B4gder | JdGordon: the dev list |
| 13:12:00 | * | JdGordon wants to get my colour chooser added... |
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| 13:13:04 | B4gder | JdGordon: you should most probably coordinate with safetydan to get aq united widget for the "bar" |
| 13:13:16 | B4gder | s/aq/a |
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| 13:14:03 | JdGordon | well... the gui is done (im using the scrollbar widget for the bar), im just waiting for some1 to decide the best way to store the chosen colour |
| 13:14:14 | erus` | gb emulator on the 5g is super messed up, seems like its running ok and sound works but the display is very corrupt |
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| 13:16:08 | LinusN | JdGordon: i guess global_settings.fgcolor/bgcolor is a good start, or? |
| 13:18:45 | safetydan | What format internally though? |
| 13:19:10 | LinusN | the native format |
| 13:19:15 | LinusN | methinks |
| 13:19:40 | LinusN | i haven't given it that much thought |
| 13:20:04 | LinusN | maybe it should be stored in true rgb after all |
| 13:20:23 | safetydan | JdGordon, how well does the scroll bar work as a slider widget? |
| 13:20:33 | JdGordon | works fine |
| 13:20:49 | LinusN | but be converted to native format in two other struct members, for efficiency |
| 13:21:05 | JdGordon | excpet not really.. coz it looks like your filling the bar.. not really sliding it.. but thats minor |
| 13:21:26 | safetydan | JdGordon, that doesn't really work then for positive/negative values like in the EQ |
| 13:21:34 | LinusN | it can work as a slider too |
| 13:21:35 | JdGordon | no.. |
| 13:23:04 | safetydan | LinusN, I see you could cheat with min_item and max_item to keep it as a little knob in the middle of the scrollbar |
| 13:23:14 | LinusN | yup |
| 13:23:22 | safetydan | I should do that in the EQ then |
| 13:23:29 | safetydan | woo, less code for me |
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| 13:24:47 | JdGordon | ... not really.. if youve already coded the sliders :p |
| 13:26:41 | JdGordon | i was also thinking.. how do u want to handle things like pplugins changing hte colours? add code to reset the users choice after exiting plugins? |
| 13:26:50 | JdGordon | and vierwers... and...? |
| 13:26:57 | * | preglow pats B4gder on the back |
| 13:28:47 | LinusN | JdGordon: yes |
| 13:28:57 | LinusN | like we do with backdrops today |
| 13:29:12 | JdGordon | alrighty |
| 13:29:43 | reeetere | when uninstalling rockbox from my ipodvideo do i have to do something extra to get the video chip filmware back on |
| 13:29:52 | LinusN | i can imagine that this will evolve to a multitude of color settings in the future |
| 13:29:56 | reeetere | ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin <−− other than this |
| 13:31:19 | Lynx_ | What do you think about an option to turn off the backlight immediatly when the hold switch is activated? |
| 13:32:16 | Paprica | mm there is a program that change the size of the bitmaps? (not one by one..) |
| 13:32:32 | LinusN | imagemagick |
| 13:32:33 | B4gder | convert can do everything! |
| 13:32:51 | Paprica | 10x |
| 13:33:02 | B4gder | it might even exist for cygwin ;-) |
| 13:33:09 | LinusN | yes it does |
| 13:33:50 | LinusN | Lynx_: i haven't really thought about it, but it sounds like overkill to me |
| 13:33:52 | petur | for windows: irfanview |
| 13:34:37 | Lynx_ | LinusN: hmm, yeah, maybe that's overoptimizing things |
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| 13:36:38 | JdGordon | who knows linux?? wf wont shutdown -h -t now work? |
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| 13:37:38 | B4gder | wooo, -515 points! ;-) |
| 13:37:45 | B4gder | nah, -495 |
| 13:37:47 | safetydan | JdGordon, in what way doesn't it work? |
| 13:37:57 | JdGordon | it just spits out the usage message |
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| 13:38:57 | LinusN | JdGordon: -t needs an argument |
| 13:39:07 | B4gder | we need that video bmp for the sim! |
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| 13:42:37 | safetydan | aww, I was going to try and fix the Win32 sim too (since I broke it anyway) |
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| 13:45:27 | B4gder | I don't think you need to bother |
| 13:46:13 | LinusN | go fix the sdl audio instead |
| 13:46:18 | safetydan | I've been trying |
| 13:46:23 | LinusN | try harder :-) |
| 13:46:26 | safetydan | :) |
| 13:46:27 | safetydan | ha |
| 13:46:28 | B4gder | haha |
| 13:46:34 | safetydan | it's very strange the problem |
| 13:46:47 | safetydan | it's almost as if the pcmbuffer isn't keeping up |
| 13:48:26 | safetydan | the only other thing I can think of is that the SDL implementation of yield() is suspect and isn't giving enough runtime to the audio thread |
| 13:50:13 | B4gder | hm, the sleep function isn't correct I'd say |
| 13:50:56 | B4gder | the target sleep() will continue yeilding |
| 13:51:04 | linuxstb | A possibility with some work in the Gimp to remove the reflection: http://scr3.golem.de/screenshots/0510/ipod_video/05ipod_1.jpg |
| 13:51:08 | B4gder | this locks the yield lock for the sleep time |
| 13:52:37 | B4gder | no, I think I'm just stupid |
| 13:52:57 | safetydan | B4gder, it's based on the X11 thread.c so in theory it should behave the same |
| 13:53:39 | safetydan | linuxstb, do you need to remove the reflection? The iPod Nano image has the same reflection |
| 13:54:00 | petur | I once tweaked the w32 sim to have no stutter and low cpu, but this didn't fix the SDL when I tried the same trick recently |
| 13:54:08 | linuxstb | safetydan: I guess it's just a personal thing - I don't like the reflection. |
| 13:54:50 | safetydan | also, that looks like an Apple press kit photo, are we allowed to use that? |
| 13:55:11 | safetydan | petur, does the SDL sim use a lot of CPU during audio playback in Windows? |
| 13:55:41 | petur | don't remember well but I think so |
| 13:56:06 | safetydan | hrmm... I really need to boot in to Windows and try things out then |
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| 14:00:27 | safetydan | Does a H300 remote work on a H120? I just got given one by someone who's h300 died. |
| 14:01:38 | B4gder | not yet at least |
| 14:01:46 | petur | maybe you should ask what's wrong with the H300 |
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| 14:04:46 | lokki | linuxstb: what about this mt/archives/images/ipod-video-front.jpg">http://uva.jp/dh/mt/archives/images/ipod-video-front.jpg ?? |
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| 14:06:23 | safetydan | petur, he's already replaced it with something else, got a refund on it, but had bought the remote separately |
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| 14:08:57 | lamed | hi all. is the iriver (h1x0) hardware capable of mixing line in with encoder out? |
| 14:09:48 | preglow | should be |
| 14:09:53 | petur | yes |
| 14:10:29 | linuxstb | IIRC, it can mix FM radio with the DAC output... |
| 14:11:25 | ScoTTie | where abouts in ipl's source tree is there keyboard stuff ? |
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| 14:12:04 | lokki | or this http://www.lucky-bag.com/images/ipod_g5.png :-) |
| 14:13:39 | linuxstb | linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/keyboard.c |
| 14:13:56 | linuxstb | That directory contains almost all the ipod-specific code. |
| 14:14:51 | ScoTTie | i notice there is some keyboard code in button.c and more in ipod.c |
| 14:14:54 | ScoTTie | whats the difference ? |
| 14:15:52 | linuxstb | Which button.c and ipod.c ? |
| 14:16:07 | amiconn | B4gder, safetydan: The sdl player sim is still not working 100% |
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| 14:16:55 | lamed | linuxstb - yes, I remember that too... |
| 14:16:56 | ScoTTie | bootloader/ipod.c firmware/drivers/button. |
| 14:16:57 | ScoTTie | c |
| 14:16:58 | amiconn | The icon refresh is lagging, i.e. changing icons don't always update immediately. Sometimes they are delayed until the next lcd update |
| 14:17:43 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: The button driver in firmware/drivers uses interrupts. We don't enable interrupts in the bootloader, so we use separate code to detect the button. |
| 14:18:24 | linuxstb | The main bootloader file is bootloader/ipod.c (bootloader/main.c is for iriver). This is linked against the low-level drivers in firmware. |
| 14:18:37 | ScoTTie | ok |
| 14:18:39 | linuxstb | Rockbox itself is in apps/, and that also uses the code in firmare. |
| 14:19:10 | ScoTTie | does it reinit the gfx ? |
| 14:19:26 | safetydan | amiconn, this is easily reproduced? I don't know my away around the player. |
| 14:19:35 | amiconn | Yes it is. |
| 14:19:44 | amiconn | Build an x11 player sim as well and compare |
| 14:19:48 | linuxstb | Yes - currently, the bootloader uses exactly the same lcd code as Rockbox, so it also re-inits it. |
| 14:19:52 | amiconn | (x11 still works for player) |
| 14:20:25 | amiconn | If you e.g. call the menu, the "PARAM" icon lights up |
| 14:20:26 | ScoTTie | hmm, strange that with the same code it ends up mirroring after it previously worked fine |
| 14:20:29 | ScoTTie | maybe i missed something |
| 14:20:37 | amiconn | It does so on x11, but on sdl it's delayed |
| 14:20:45 | safetydan | amiconn, okay I'll take a look at it when I get home |
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| 14:21:24 | amiconn | I'm not sure, the win32 sim *might* have the same problem. X11 definitely works |
| 14:21:31 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Yes, you need to make sure both lcd_init_device() and lcd_update_rect() are correct for your ipod in firmware/drivers/lcd-ipod.c |
| 14:21:40 | amiconn | I'm planning to add grayscale lib support to the sims today |
| 14:21:49 | safetydan | amiconn, I'll use the X11 one as a reference then |
| 14:21:55 | safetydan | now that will be cool to see |
| 14:21:57 | amiconn | I'll do so for sdl and win32 |
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| 14:22:03 | linuxstb | amiconn: Nice. That will make the ipod grayscale sim better than the target... |
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| 14:22:06 | amiconn | The x11 will fall behind |
| 14:22:17 | B4gder | I think you can ignore the win32 as well |
| 14:22:23 | amiconn | I don't |
| 14:22:29 | B4gder | why not? |
| 14:22:53 | amiconn | safetydan: Your work on splitting the sim lcd code opens a path to more unified sim code |
| 14:23:25 | safetydan | I was hoping that would lead to something useful |
| 14:23:27 | amiconn | With some little changes, lcd-bitmpa.c and friends can be moved to uisimulator/common |
| 14:24:09 | safetydan | and there I was moving stuff *out* of common, or at least out of stubs.c |
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| 14:26:48 | amiconn | linuxstb: Someone should implement the user timer (timer.c) for iPod... |
| 14:27:11 | * | linuxstb nudges preglow |
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| 14:31:45 | amiconn | linuxstb, preglow: Do the iPods have adjustable backlight brightness? |
| 14:32:58 | linuxstb | Are you talking about the greyscale or colour? |
| 14:33:18 | amiconn | both |
| 14:33:30 | * | preglow wakes |
| 14:34:16 | linuxstb | I _think_ the 4G Grayscale and Color/Photo both do. The Nano and 5g don't appear to. But I'm only guessing. |
| 14:34:18 | preglow | amiconn: i don't know if it's exact enough, actually, the timers are only microsecond accurate, will that be enough? |
| 14:35:02 | amiconn | Are the timers clocked separately? |
| 14:35:05 | preglow | amiconn: another problem being that the timer values are specified in microseconds in the hardware itself, i don't know how that fits together with the rockbox scheme of specifying timer intervals in ticks |
| 14:35:22 | amiconn | Timer intervals aren't specified in ticks |
| 14:35:29 | preglow | amiconn: yeah, looks like it. i can reclock the cpu and never touch the timers and they still work fine |
| 14:35:36 | preglow | amiconn: cycles, i mean |
| 14:35:43 | amiconn | They are specified in multiples of the CPU *base* frequency |
| 14:35:57 | preglow | so 11mhz on coldfire? |
| 14:36:13 | amiconn | We can change that to a separate base freq declaration |
| 14:36:40 | amiconn | Yes. 11059200 Hz on archos player/recorders, 12000000 HZ on Ondio, 11289600 Hz on iriver |
| 14:36:47 | preglow | and 24mhz on ipod |
| 14:37:16 | amiconn | #define TIMER_BASE 1000000 for iPods |
| 14:37:24 | amiconn | and then in config.h: |
| 14:37:33 | amiconn | #ifndef TIMER_BASE |
| 14:37:41 | amiconn | #define TIMER_BASE CPU_FREQ |
| 14:37:44 | amiconn | #endif |
| 14:38:28 | amiconn | Microseconds are certainly accurate enough for the grayscale lib |
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| 14:38:48 | amiconn | The timer has to provide a cycle roughly equivalent to the lcd internal refresh rate |
| 14:39:08 | amiconn | 67 Hz for the archos LCD, 70 Hz on iriver H1x0 |
| 14:41:18 | amiconn | The iriver timer logic handles frequency transitions. That's the reason for the higher frequencies being an integer multiple of the base |
| 14:41:36 | amiconn | That won't be needed for iPod it seems |
| 14:41:48 | preglow | nope |
| 14:42:02 | preglow | but yeah, timer.c for ipod is on my schedule |
| 14:42:05 | preglow | but no time now |
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| 14:43:20 | t0mas | Bagder! |
| 14:43:27 | t0mas | I see a mistake in the rockbox build table... |
| 14:43:39 | t0mas | in your homedir / rockbox-auto/buildall.pl |
| 14:43:39 | | Quit damaki_ (Connection timed out) |
| 14:44:11 | t0mas | you have this as the first line: |
| 14:44:11 | t0mas | build-recordersim:Recorder - Simulator:rockboxui:2\\n2\\ns\\ns\\n", |
| 14:44:21 | t0mas | and this: |
| 14:44:21 | t0mas | build-recordersim:Recorder - Simulator:rockboxui:2\\n2\\ns\\ns\\n", |
| 14:44:25 | t0mas | as the 6th line |
| 14:44:37 | t0mas | same with player sim... |
| 14:44:40 | amiconn | B4gder: There is a dependency problem for the codecs. They are relinked everytime for simulator builds, but not for target builds |
| 14:44:55 | B4gder | so thet say ;-) |
| 14:44:58 | B4gder | they |
| 14:45:14 | t0mas | B4gder: take a look a few lines up ;) |
| 14:45:15 | B4gder | t0mas: thanks, fixed |
| 14:45:16 | t0mas | ok |
| 14:45:23 | t0mas | copied it to the dis. system too |
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| 14:48:54 | ScoTTie | doh |
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| 14:49:09 | ScoTTie | ive been only compiling the bootloader |
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| 15:02:08 | t0mas | hm... |
| 15:02:24 | t0mas | does anybody happen to know in which year the internet was "invented"? |
| 15:03:12 | B4gder | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet |
| 15:03:21 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 15:03:27 | t0mas | *nods* should have tought of that |
| 15:04:20 | B4gder | but anyway, 1969 is probably the answer you were looking for |
| 15:05:28 | t0mas | yeah, it was a little more complicated :) |
| 15:05:36 | t0mas | 1965 was the invention date of email |
| 15:06:09 | t0mas | and I'm writing something about the culture differences between then and now... and why e-mail isn't a secure way of communication |
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| 15:10:25 | preglow | a hard one... |
| 15:10:44 | ScoTTie | where is ROCKBOXLOGO_WIDTH/HEIGHT defined ? |
| 15:11:30 | B4gder | find . -name "*.h" | xargs grep ROCKBOXLOGO_WIDTH |
| 15:11:36 | linuxstb | grep -r ROCKBOXLOGO_WIDTH apps |
| 15:11:39 | linuxstb | ah... |
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| 15:16:25 | linuxstb | B4gder: If I changed bmp2rb to create both .h and .c files, any suggestions about where I should put the .h files so they will be in the include path? IIUC, only the root of $(BUILDDIR) is in the path at the moment. |
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| 15:17:37 | linuxstb | I don't really want to create another 6 subdirectories and add them all to the include path.... |
| 15:18:43 | B4gder | would they have different names? |
| 15:18:50 | B4gder | the files |
| 15:19:51 | linuxstb | Yes - the filename will be the same as the name of the array in C, so it must be unique. |
| 15:20:12 | linuxstb | So just a $(BUILDDIR)/bitmaps/ directory? |
| 15:20:25 | B4gder | yes, I was about to suggest something like that |
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| 15:25:59 | linuxstb | OK. I think I'll create two directories though - one for main rockbox, and one for plugins. In theory, I think they could share the same names, but plugins shouldn't use core bitmaps, and vice-versa. |
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| 15:31:32 | ScoTTie | ybdefubed referebce ti 'rockboxlogo' |
| 15:31:38 | linuxstb | B4gder: Are variables exported from one Makefile to another when using "make -C", or do I need to explicitly pass them on the make command-line? |
| 15:31:41 | ScoTTie | one key off ;\ |
| 15:31:48 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Edit apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/SOURCES |
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| 15:32:01 | ScoTTie | nice work on decrypting that ;) |
| 15:32:01 | linuxstb | Sorry, apps/bitmaps/native/SOURCES |
| 15:32:27 | ScoTTie | btw what would the bmp size be ? |
| 15:32:30 | linuxstb | SOURCES should use the same #ifdefs that you used in icons.h |
| 15:32:34 | B4gder | linuxstb: I think you need to use export to have them exported like that |
| 15:33:01 | linuxstb | B4gder: OK, thanks. But I don't think I need to anyway... |
| 15:33:28 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: How big is the mini's LCD? |
| 15:33:47 | ScoTTie | 138x110 |
| 15:34:04 | ScoTTie | i took a guess at 138x45 |
| 15:34:14 | linuxstb | You need to create the bmp file first... |
| 15:34:30 | linuxstb | Or just make Rockbox use an existing one - e.g. the 112x37x1 logo. |
| 15:34:46 | ScoTTie | yeah ill do that |
| 15:35:50 | preglow | Slasheri: here? |
| 15:36:18 | preglow | early usb seems to be quite broken |
| 15:36:59 | preglow | my iriver actually hangs completely |
| 15:37:02 | preglow | same for ipod |
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| 15:45:35 | preglow | and _hangs_ linux' usb driver in the process |
| 15:45:37 | preglow | hoo-fucking-ray |
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| 15:47:04 | ScoTTie | whats the chance of the Sum being off by 1h :\ |
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| 15:52:33 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: You are probably using the wrong model number in either tools/scramble.c or bootloader/ipod.c - the model number is the seed for the checksum. |
| 15:52:51 | ScoTTie | yeah i was using a different one |
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| 16:07:32 | Z_Man | i heard you guys helped out the devs working on the LCD for the 5g ipod linux, is that right? |
| 16:08:01 | Z_Man | guess probably so, aegray is here.. hah. |
| 16:08:07 | Z_Man | well thanks guys i have a 5g |
| 16:08:45 | BHSPitLappy | they pretty much figured that part out... |
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| 16:09:19 | JW | Can I do any harm by partitioning my iRiver (w/ parted) |
| 16:09:20 | JW | ? |
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| 16:15:04 | JW | I want to make a primary partition on it for example |
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| 16:16:25 | ScoTTie | well the screen kinda works |
| 16:16:46 | petur | JW: why? you risk the partition(s) become unrecognized by original fw and rockbox |
| 16:16:48 | ScoTTie | not reversed anymore |
| 16:17:07 | ScoTTie | but it seems like the left 2 pixles are showing on the right |
| 16:17:51 | ScoTTie | ah the placement is -2 |
| 16:17:54 | |Josh| | anybody know when the forum is supposed to be back up? |
| 16:18:18 | petur | jeff probably does ;) |
| 16:18:25 | JW | ScoTTie: I fear the device won´t boot anymore (becouse it might have some demands to the partitioning scheme) |
| 16:18:59 | ScoTTie | oh im talking about getting rockbox working on an ipod mini |
| 16:19:27 | linuxstb | JW: Does your iriver have a Rockbox bootloader with "USB bootloader mode" ? |
| 16:19:56 | JW | linuxstb: I don't remember, why? |
| 16:21:11 | linuxstb | Because that's a useful safety feature if your hard disk can no longer be accessed by Rockbox or the iriver firmware. |
| 16:21:14 | ScoTTie | linuxstb: any idea what would cause the pixels to be all missaligned by -2 pxl ? |
| 16:21:35 | ScoTTie | or where to look |
| 16:21:51 | linuxstb | Does that mean Rockbox is working now? |
| 16:21:57 | JW | linuxstb: Is it possible to have that on an IHP-140? |
| 16:22:30 | linuxstb | JW: Yes - plug the usb cable into your h140 and your pc BEFORE you turn on your h140. If the screen displays "USB bootloader mode", then you have it. |
| 16:22:52 | * | amiconn realises the iPod mini introduces a new lcd driver problem |
| 16:23:06 | linuxstb | ? |
| 16:23:16 | amiconn | 138 is not divisible by 4, but 4 pixels are packed in one byte |
| 16:23:35 | linuxstb | :) That might explain the misalignment... |
| 16:23:35 | JW | right, I'll try that (iRiver is w/ my brother now). But what do I have to keep in mind if I want to repartition? |
| 16:23:43 | amiconn | It seems apple chose to locate the 2 extra pixels at the left |
| 16:23:49 | |Josh| | I don't suppose there is an iPod WPS gallery yet? |
| 16:24:01 | |Josh| | Something like misticriver, but with iPod WPS's instead.. |
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| 16:24:12 | linuxstb | JW: I don't know what the iriver firmware expects, but Rockbox uses the first FAT32 primary partition it finds. It can't use extended partitions. |
| 16:24:53 | amiconn | So we need to offset all pixel calculations by 2 |
| 16:25:10 | JW | linuxstb: haha, lol. I believe the only partition on it atm is an extended one (sda5). I bought the device second hand, so perhaps someone had fun with it... |
| 16:25:38 | linuxstb | Does the irivier firmware start OK? |
| 16:25:42 | linuxstb | iriver.. |
| 16:26:10 | JW | yup! |
| 16:26:21 | amiconn | It also means the framebuffer definition is wrong for mini |
| 16:27:37 | ScoTTie | http://www.wizzer-it.com/scott/rockbox-01.jpg |
| 16:28:03 | JW | well, if noone feels an extreme urge to warn me for certain situations, I'll give it a shot! (when - if - my bro hands it over :-P) |
| 16:28:10 | ScoTTie | its the top 2 pixles its missing though |
| 16:28:32 | ScoTTie | or is that what would be expected ? |
| 16:29:05 | markun | ScoTTie: nice job anyway |
| 16:29:54 | * | Bg3r looks for someone with h100 remote |
| 16:30:14 | * | linuxstb looks at his h100 remote |
| 16:30:54 | JW | mine has its clip broken :-( |
| 16:30:55 | amiconn | ScoTTie: The left side looks ok, the right side does not |
| 16:31:02 | Bg3r | linuxstb can i give u a diff of button.c + a little plugin (button_test.c) to see if it works ? |
| 16:31:08 | amiconn | As mentioned, some rounding adjustments are due |
| 16:31:32 | amiconn | Fortunately it looks like they did *not* decide to leave the 2 leftmost pixels invisible |
| 16:32:03 | JW | well, I'll be back in 2 days to ask stuff about the leds. I'm going now. Thanks all (especially linuxstb, who, once again, proves to be cool). |
| 16:32:08 | ScoTTie | actually |
| 16:32:17 | ScoTTie | its 2x2 that missaligned |
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| 16:32:26 | ScoTTie | ive got a clearer photo hang on |
| 16:33:03 | amiconn | Did you change the lcd_framebuffer declaration in lcd-2bit-horz.c |
| 16:33:05 | amiconn | ? |
| 16:33:29 | ScoTTie | nope |
| 16:33:35 | amiconn | If not, try to change it to unsigned char lcd_framebuffer[LCD_HEIGHT][(LCD_WIDTH+3)/4] IBSS_ATTR; |
| 16:34:37 | linuxstb | Bg3r: Sure. |
| 16:34:46 | Bg3r | linuxstb 10x, sec |
| 16:35:02 | ScoTTie | http://www.wizzer-it.com/scott/rockbox-02.jpg |
| 16:35:45 | amiconn | Is that already with the mentioned change? |
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| 16:35:53 | ScoTTie | nope compiling that now |
| 16:36:27 | Bg3r | linuxstb how to give it to u ? |
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| 16:38:05 | Bg3r | linuxstb sent:) |
| 16:38:06 | preglow | Bg3r: carrier pigeon |
| 16:39:22 | linuxstb | Bg3r: Received, straight into my spam folder.... |
| 16:39:33 | petur | hahaha |
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| 16:39:52 | petur | intelligent filter eh? |
| 16:40:13 | lamed | WOW! on winxp SHIFT+F10 = that weird microsoft key |
| 16:40:19 | webguest22 | is it possible to have one font for browsing, and a different one for the WPS display ? |
| 16:41:02 | Bg3r | linuxstb :)) |
| 16:41:37 | Bg3r | linuxstb just run the button_test plugin |
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| 16:42:05 | linuxstb | Bg3r: OK, give me a few minutes. |
| 16:42:06 | Bg3r | and see if all keys are what they should be and whether they work at all |
| 16:42:18 | Bg3r | hehe, ok, of course |
| 16:42:48 | webguest22 | I would like a large font for the wps, and a small font for browsing, is this possible ? (H140) |
| 16:44:04 | petur | webguest22: not yet |
| 16:44:49 | webguest22 | thanks, from your reply I gather that someone is working on it ? |
| 16:45:28 | petur | there has been talk about it, don't think somebody has worked on it... |
| 16:46:18 | webguest22 | talk is good, I suppose an offer of free beer might speed things up :) |
| 16:46:40 | Bg3r | more likely an offer of free time :) |
| 16:46:52 | petur | heh |
| 16:47:27 | webguest22 | thanks |
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| 16:47:58 | markun | linuxstb: the Kenwood HD20GA7 is supposedly very similar to the gigabeat. Also runs arm linux, but I haven't been able to find much info. Emailed a user about it. |
| 16:49:16 | linuxstb | Bg3r: Seems perfect to me. |
| 16:49:45 | Bg3r | linuxstb 10x :) |
| 16:51:24 | linuxstb | markun: So many players, so little time.... Is someone getting the linux source? |
| 16:52:07 | markun | linuxstb: the linux source is online from kenwood.. but without any changes. |
| 16:52:30 | lostlogic | creative M Vision... that's what we need :-P |
| 16:52:35 | linuxstb | markun: URL? |
| 16:53:13 | linuxstb | markun: I've found it... |
| 16:54:14 | ScoTTie | hmm |
| 16:54:35 | ScoTTie | in ipl's init_lcd(), its got a comment for minis: /* driver output control - 160x112 (ipod mini) */ |
| 16:56:12 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Try asking on #ipodlinux. I can't tell you any more than what the source says. |
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| 17:00:53 | |Josh| | still quite a noob with rockbox, but I was wondering.. can you set a image background for selected menu items using the current WPS theming system? I.e. like the blue gradient that the iPod has? |
| 17:01:08 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Did amiconn's change to the declaration of lcd_framebuffer change anything? |
| 17:01:51 | linuxstb | |Josh|: No. |
| 17:02:27 | |Josh| | Alright, didn't think so. Just wondered if I was overlooking anything. |
| 17:03:13 | petur | |Josh|: you can set a common bitmap for all backgrounds |
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| 17:03:24 | petur | called 'backdrop' |
| 17:03:43 | ScoTTie | made it unreadable |
| 17:04:11 | Zefrem23 | hey all... I'm probably the 900th person to come on here and say "There's a DB error on the Rockbox forums"... but hey, I gotta try :) |
| 17:04:46 | |Josh| | Yeah, the backdrop function is really nice.. but I wanted to have a separate background just for the selected menu item. |
| 17:05:10 | preglow | doesn't retailos just xor the colours? |
| 17:05:10 | safetydan | Zefrem23, 901 actually |
| 17:05:42 | |Josh| | i.e. instead of just inverting it like it is now, have it have a gradient background image |
| 17:05:42 | linuxstb | I seem to recall that it does have a gradient. Maybe it isn't as noticable on the nano. |
| 17:05:59 | safetydan | Zefrem23, you know as much as we do AFAIK |
| 17:06:30 | Zefrem23 | haha safetydan, I figured I wasn't saying anything new... I take it the people who admin the db aren't around... |
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| 17:08:03 | preglow | the people who admin the db == misticjeff |
| 17:08:13 | |Josh| | well, I suppose it wouldn't need to be an image if you could set a gradient, but as far as I can tell.. there isn't any gradient. The colors are just inverted |
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| 17:09:54 | |Josh| | screendump: http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/2190/dump0602192211077qf.png |
| 17:10:02 | linuxstb | |Josh|: Rockbox doesn't have many customisable options for the UI yet. But I'm sure they will come in the future when people add them. |
| 17:10:27 | linuxstb | Rockbox is about 4 years old, and it's only worked on colour lcds for about 4 months. |
| 17:10:52 | |Josh| | Yeah, I understand... just wanted to make sure I wasn't just missing anything ;) |
| 17:11:22 | linuxstb | No - the only things you can customise are the backdrop image and the WPS. |
| 17:11:31 | linuxstb | ... and choose the font. |
| 17:11:39 | |Josh| | yeah |
| 17:12:04 | Zefrem23 | Well since I can't really say anything since the db status is already known, I guess I'll just say MAD PROPS to the guys responsible for the 4G iPod port, it's truly awesome!! |
| 17:12:17 | linuxstb | Glad you like. |
| 17:12:42 | |Josh| | The 5g port is great as well... save the audio skipping issues. but I'm sure that'll get worked out in time.' |
| 17:12:53 | linuxstb | Zefrem23: But 95% of what you are seeing is just "Rockbox" - very little is specific to the ipod. |
| 17:13:58 | Zefrem23 | in that case, mad props all-round :D The next time I reformat my iPod, I'm going to use Rockbox exlcusively |
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| 17:16:45 | Zefrem23 | sorry to interrupt the technical discussion with my gushing ramblings :) |
| 17:17:14 | Paprica | OK |
| 17:17:22 | Paprica | BrickMania for nano is here |
| 17:17:28 | Paprica | testers? |
| 17:18:14 | * | petur points to linuxstb |
| 17:19:17 | * | Paprica wait for an answer |
| 17:19:32 | linuxstb | I don't have a Nano... preglow? |
| 17:19:59 | petur | woops, I thought you had... |
| 17:20:38 | * | petur goes back minding his own business |
| 17:20:39 | linuxstb | |Josh|: The only audio skipping I know about is when the CPU is struggling to keep up. Do you have the EQ enabled? What kind of files are you playing? |
| 17:20:51 | preglow | what? |
| 17:20:59 | linuxstb | Brickmania? |
| 17:21:04 | linuxstb | Tester needed... |
| 17:21:11 | linuxstb | ... for Nano |
| 17:21:18 | preglow | ahh |
| 17:21:19 | preglow | me |
| 17:21:19 | preglow | yes |
| 17:21:21 | preglow | no |
| 17:21:23 | preglow | i can't test |
| 17:21:28 | Paprica | why? |
| 17:21:29 | preglow | i have to reboot first and i can't reboot now |
| 17:21:45 | Paprica | =\ |
| 17:21:47 | preglow | the early usb bug on h120 crashed my usb driver |
| 17:22:27 | |Josh| | linuxstb: yes, that's what I'm refffering to. It wouldn't be bad, except that it takes almost nothing to cause the CPU to struggle ;) Namely, using the scrollwheel for much anything at all. |
| 17:22:37 | Paprica | ok anyone else? |
| 17:22:49 | preglow | it's not so much the scrollwheel as it is the display drive,r i think |
| 17:23:27 | |Josh| | ok. Well, either way.. scrolling around cause something to slow down ;) |
| 17:23:32 | |Josh| | But its not too bad. |
| 17:23:51 | |Josh| | And the gapless playback is great. |
| 17:25:05 | |Josh| | threw me off guard yesterday though, I had started a live Howie Day recording, and forgot I had rockbox on shuffle. So he finished one song, was talking, and then an Eisley song started playing, without any pause at all :P |
| 17:29:18 | Paprica | Mikachu, are you there? |
| 17:29:21 | Mikachu | i am |
| 17:29:40 | Paprica | you have nano |
| 17:29:41 | Paprica | ? |
| 17:29:44 | Mikachu | i do |
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| 17:30:00 | Paprica | good |
| 17:30:09 | Paprica | want to test brickmania? |
| 17:30:16 | Mikachu | sure, in a few minutes |
| 17:30:32 | Paprica | ok |
| 17:31:26 | Paprica | http://rapidshare.de/files/13716395/brickmania.rock.html |
| 17:34:30 | preglow | hrm |
| 17:34:44 | preglow | is it beneficial to chain as many ldr instructions as one can together when using arm? |
| 17:34:49 | preglow | seems that's what gcc does |
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| 17:39:12 | ScoTTie | linuxstb: in handle_scroll_wheel() there's an else that encloses the default: case of the switch. |
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| 17:42:27 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Is that in both the ipodlinux and Rockbox drivers? |
| 17:43:00 | ScoTTie | only rockbox |
| 17:44:52 | linuxstb | Yes, that looks like a bug... preglow? |
| 17:45:07 | Mikachu | Paprica: could i get the source or a diff instead? |
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| 17:45:32 | Paprica | yep sec |
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| 17:45:56 | Mikachu | i've changed something so it doesn't run |
| 17:46:11 | Paprica | ok ok |
| 17:46:12 | Paprica | sec |
| 17:46:21 | linuxstb | Paprica: Don't forget to use "cvs add -kb" when you add binary files to cvs... |
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| 17:47:06 | Paprica | yep i see that somthing wrong with my commit ;] |
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| 17:47:15 | Paprica | saw* |
| 17:47:42 | preglow | linuxstb: don't ask me about 3g code |
| 17:47:43 | preglow | i have no idea |
| 17:48:10 | linuxstb | Is the scroll_wheel 3g code? |
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| 17:48:26 | * | linuxstb reads a few lines up in the source..... |
| 17:48:29 | preglow | handle_scroll_wheel is |
| 17:48:36 | preglow | i handle the scrool wheel in the main button function for 4g |
| 17:48:49 | linuxstb | OK, sorry for disturbing you.... |
| 17:49:03 | linuxstb | slimx? |
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| 17:59:43 | Mikachu | Paprica: the title bitmap looks corrupted and the level doesn't quite fit on screen |
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| 18:01:55 | Mikachu | looks exactly the same in the sim |
| 18:02:05 | Paprica | wtf.. |
| 18:02:17 | Paprica | looks fine on my screen |
| 18:02:24 | Lynx_ | is it not possible to boot into the iriver org. firmware if the battery is low? |
| 18:02:35 | Paprica | (sim screen) |
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| 18:04:30 | Lynx_ | if i hold rec at startup i see 'booting original firmware' and then immediatly a black screen |
| 18:08:05 | Paprica | Mikachu, is'nt it look like this? http://img418.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brickmania2ea.png |
| 18:08:34 | Mikachu | no, i'm looking for local changes which could be the cause |
| 18:09:03 | Paprica | try clean build |
| 18:09:05 | Paprica | ? |
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| 18:11:10 | Mikachu | i know why, my fault :) |
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| 18:12:01 | Paprica | ok |
| 18:12:09 | Paprica | look ok now? |
| 18:12:16 | Mikachu | compiling |
| 18:12:25 | Mikachu | but i had enabled another set of bitmaps to try bm out |
| 18:16:22 | Paprica | which targets will compile when i use (LCD_WIDTH >= 176) && (LCD_HEIGHT >= 132) && (LCD_DEPTH == 16)? |
| 18:16:33 | Mikachu | okay, it works fine now |
| 18:16:40 | Mikachu | had to make clean first to remove the old bitmap objects too |
| 18:16:47 | Paprica | Nano,H300,ipod color, iPod Video and? |
| 18:17:05 | Paprica | ok |
| 18:17:07 | Mikachu | may i suggest removing the binding for the scroll wheel? |
| 18:17:19 | Mikachu | it just makes the paddle move erratically if i hold one thumb on each of left/right |
| 18:17:45 | Paprica | is the speed ok? |
| 18:17:49 | Mikachu | a bit fast |
| 18:18:25 | Paprica | you can use the scroll wheel instead of left/right |
| 18:18:48 | Mikachu | i thought it was obvious i noticed that :) |
| 18:19:04 | Mikachu | it's not possible to play with the wheel though |
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| 18:19:26 | Paprica | Mikachu, could you optimize the speed for the nano? |
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| 18:19:37 | Paprica | just play with CYCLETIME |
| 18:19:43 | LGMS | hello |
| 18:20:02 | Mikachu | hm |
| 18:20:05 | Mikachu | are there only two levels? |
| 18:20:10 | preglow | optimise speed? don't you use proper framerate control? |
| 18:20:17 | LGMS | Someone can tell me what's the difference between win32 and SDL version? |
| 18:20:23 | Mikachu | the sdl one works |
| 18:20:26 | LGMS | it's about the simulator |
| 18:20:49 | amiconn | ScoTTie: I guess there are more places that need adaption to the last-byte-is-partial property of the mini framebuffer |
| 18:21:02 | preglow | LGMS: the sdl sim uses the sdl library for audio/graphics, so we can maintain just one code base for all platforms |
| 18:21:03 | Paprica | preglow, i meant play with CYCLETIME and get the wanted speed |
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| 18:21:21 | amiconn | ScoTTie: What did the display look like, btw? |
| 18:21:49 | ScoTTie | everything was on an angle |
| 18:21:56 | amiconn | Photo? |
| 18:22:01 | ScoTTie | backwards and up |
| 18:22:12 | LGMS | preglow: so the sdl version works on windows xp? |
| 18:22:13 | ScoTTie | in a sec |
| 18:22:32 | ScoTTie | killed my build trying to add IPOD_MINI_PAD |
| 18:22:39 | amiconn | Ah, yes, I think I know where this has to be adapted... |
| 18:23:05 | amiconn | I'll perhaps make some fixes related to this problem soon |
| 18:24:06 | Mikachu | if ((ball[k].pos_x+ball[k].x+3 >= brickx && ball[k].pos_x+ball[k].x+3 <= brickx+BRICK_WIDTH) && ((bricky-4<ball[k].pos_y+BALL && bricky>ball[k].pos_y+BALL) || (bricky+4>ball[k].pos_y+BALL+BALL && bricky<ball[k].pos_y+BALL+BALL)) && (ball[k].y >0)){ |
| 18:24:12 | Mikachu | this code could do with some linebreaking |
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| 18:27:57 | LGMS | preglow: so the sdl version works on windows xp? |
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| 18:30:32 | preglow | LGMS: yes, and linux |
| 18:30:41 | preglow | LGMS: and potentially every other place where libsdl works |
| 18:30:50 | LGMS | ok than you |
| 18:32:17 | stickLemur | if i'm installing rockbox on a fifth gen ipod, what do i do once i've extracted the folders/files to the ipod? |
| 18:33:07 | imphasing_ | stickLemur: reboot? |
| 18:33:08 | imphasing_ | =/ |
| 18:33:14 | stickLemur | :0 |
| 18:33:16 | stickLemur | lol |
| 18:33:18 | stickLemur | good call |
| 18:33:47 | imphasing_ | :) |
| 18:33:51 | stickLemur | thanks :) |
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| 18:59:54 | Paprica | [::] <Paprica> which targets will compile when i use (LCD_WIDTH >= 176) && (LCD_HEIGHT >= 132) && (LCD_DEPTH == 16)? |
| 18:59:55 | Paprica | [::] <Paprica> Nano,H300,ipod color, iPod Video and? |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:49 | Philip_0729 | ? i thourght H300 was 220x176 |
| 19:01:27 | linuxstb | Paprica: Just the four you mention I think. |
| 19:01:41 | Paprica | ok |
| 19:01:42 | Philip_0729 | wouldn't the X5 compile? |
| 19:01:43 | Paprica | good |
| 19:02:10 | Paprica | i think that the LCD_DEPTH of x5 is 18 |
| 19:02:17 | linuxstb | Philip_0729: No, that's 160x128 |
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| 19:02:54 | linuxstb | Paprica: The x5 has been changed to 16... |
| 19:03:08 | Paprica | oh |
| 19:03:12 | Paprica | so its not good |
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| 19:03:23 | linuxstb | Yes - it's smaller than the Nano. |
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| 19:04:55 | Paprica | the x5 lcd is smaller than the nano? |
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| 19:05:20 | linuxstb | Yes - the Nano is 176x132, and the X5 is 160x128 |
| 19:06:04 | Paprica | ok than |
| 19:06:06 | Paprica | its good |
| 19:08:56 | ScoTTie | what places would i need to change to get the buttons working ? |
| 19:09:06 | ScoTTie | need to see if ive missed anywhere |
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| 19:12:21 | amiconn | ScoTTie: I'm about to commit some changes for lcd-2bit-horz.c which should fix the right margin pixels on mini |
| 19:13:20 | amiconn | It was not only the framebuffer declaration, but a number of other places too which needed the (LCD_WIDTH/4) ==> ((LCD_WIDTH+3)/4) replacement |
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| 19:13:58 | preglow | we really are starting to rack up the ipod ports, aren't we |
| 19:14:11 | preglow | maybe we should consider a general ipod configuration option with a submenu sometime |
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| 19:17:28 | linuxstb | preglow: Yep, we've nearly got them all going now. Just the 1G and 2G left. |
| 19:17:39 | amiconn | there. |
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| 19:19:22 | preglow | i'm really eager to see how usuable rockbox will be on the 1-3g ipods, though |
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| 19:20:11 | linuxstb | Yep, hopefully slimx can find his bug and carry on porting. |
| 19:21:18 | ScoTTie | whats the bug ? |
| 19:21:44 | linuxstb | Rockbox just freezes when it starts. |
| 19:22:04 | linuxstb | His bootloader works, but Rockbox itself doesn't. |
| 19:22:23 | amiconn | ScoTTie: Could you try my lcd changes for mini? |
| 19:22:30 | ScoTTie | sure |
| 19:23:00 | xmixahlx | is the RB forum down? |
| 19:23:29 | xmixahlx | i get a DB ERROR |
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| 19:26:55 | amiconn | linuxstb: I just noticed there will be more than 2 mono bitmap orientations, possibly up to 4... |
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| 19:28:25 | amiconn | We have horizontal and vertical. It may happen that we need both orientations as lsb-first and msb-first. |
| 19:28:25 | Moos | amiconn: red h120 sim build |
| 19:28:43 | amiconn | Huh? |
| 19:28:58 | Moos | amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/~tomas/daily.shtml |
| 19:29:41 | amiconn | There's obviously a bug with these builds itself |
| 19:30:10 | Moos | t0mas? |
| 19:30:35 | amiconn | Besides, I did only touch code which isn't used for anything else than greyscale iPods |
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| 19:31:08 | Moos | is the mini LCD fixed xith this? |
| 19:31:11 | safetydan | Moos, those are trying to build the X11 sims for some reason |
| 19:31:19 | Moos | ah ok |
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| 19:34:55 | ScoTTie | it gives me a conflict |
| 19:35:40 | ScoTTie | with lcd_framebuffer in lcd.h |
| 19:36:16 | amiconn | Ah, that needs to be changed too |
| 19:36:45 | amiconn | me fix |
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| 19:41:20 | pldwan | yep all |
| 19:41:40 | pldwan | little question ....... how to install podzilla on rockbox ?? |
| 19:44:27 | preglow | ... |
| 19:44:29 | preglow | podzilla is for ipodlinux |
| 19:44:34 | preglow | not rockbox |
| 19:45:35 | petur | LinusN: with the values you gave me, reading the isp1362 freezes everything for 10 seconds, then returns zero :( |
| 19:45:48 | amiconn | ScoTTie: fixed. |
| 19:45:52 | linuxstb | amiconn: I've started working on the bmp2rb .h files - hopefully I'll be able to commit it this evening. |
| 19:45:53 | petur | LinusN: will have a look at the disassembly |
| 19:46:16 | preglow | petur: what's that chip do? |
| 19:46:23 | petur | usbotg |
| 19:46:23 | amiconn | usbotg |
| 19:46:31 | amiconn | :) |
| 19:46:37 | petur | I was first :P |
| 19:46:44 | Zefrem23 | sorry to interrupt, but have there been any additions or changes to the 4G greyscale iPod codebase in the past couple of days? |
| 19:46:48 | Paprica | if i do "cvs add" to folder with new files, all the new files will add? |
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| 19:47:15 | petur | bbl |
| 19:47:17 | preglow | Zefrem23: check the cvs logs |
| 19:47:20 | linuxstb | Zefrem23: See http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html for a list of changes |
| 19:47:36 | preglow | what he said |
| 19:47:58 | Paprica | linuxstb, preglow, if i do "cvs add" to folder with new files, all the new files will add? |
| 19:48:52 | lostlogic | Paprica: nope, hafta add the files separately |
| 19:49:00 | pldwan | no it's write here who rockbox could use podzilla |
| 19:49:14 | Paprica | hafta? |
| 19:49:15 | linuxstb | Probably... But it's safe to specify a pattern - e.g. cvs add -kb *176*.bmp |
| 19:49:16 | preglow | linuxstb: do you know if all ipods share the dock connector pinout? |
| 19:49:25 | pldwan | Available software: |
| 19:49:26 | pldwan | * Podzilla uses libitunesdb |
| 19:49:30 | Mikachu | Paprica: "have to" |
| 19:49:40 | Paprica | ok =] |
| 19:49:45 | safetydan | Paprica, but you can do "cvs add *" to save time |
| 19:50:04 | Paprica | ok |
| 19:50:04 | linuxstb | preglow: I think so. At least all the 4g/nano/5g should be the same. |
| 19:50:11 | lostlogic | cvs add * is bad, because it includes the CVS folder, eh? |
| 19:50:21 | ScoTTie | yep |
| 19:50:22 | safetydan | it does, but CVS is smart enough to ignore you |
| 19:50:26 | safetydan | usually |
| 19:50:28 | ScoTTie | that change works perfect |
| 19:50:38 | safetydan | you could do *.c *.h to avoid that |
| 19:51:08 | linuxstb | Paprica: Are you adding the new bmp files? |
| 19:51:12 | Paprica | yep |
| 19:51:19 | Paprica | -kb i know |
| 19:51:20 | Paprica | =] |
| 19:51:28 | linuxstb | Then do "cvs add -kb *176*.bmp" |
| 19:51:38 | linuxstb | Sorry, that won't work..... |
| 19:51:48 | linuxstb | Then do "cvs add -kb *176x132.bmp" |
| 19:51:53 | Zefrem23 | thanks for the info folks |
| 19:51:59 | Paprica | ok |
| 19:52:36 | linuxstb | Is the ipod video next on your list of Brickmania ports? |
| 19:52:39 | linuxstb | :) |
| 19:52:50 | Paprica | =] i'll see |
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| 19:53:39 | Paprica | i want to complete rockpaint and upload it to SF |
| 19:56:27 | Paprica | ok, just commit it |
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| 20:01:25 | krmathis | linuxstb: In the HA forum you mentioned you have a ipodpatcher equivalent application for Mac OS X. I'm ready to give it a go, if possible |
| 20:01:49 | yeahx | what? |
| 20:02:12 | yeahx | I had to use windows and I just installed mine last week |
| 20:03:10 | krmathis | The iPod boot partition is not accessible from Mac OS X. So linuxstb wrote a ipodpatcher equivalent application to install Rockbox from Mac OS X |
| 20:03:37 | yeahx | oh well, at least I just happened to have a Dull handy |
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| 20:04:04 | krmathis | But I dont have access to a Winblows computer |
| 20:04:37 | yeahx | I probably would have been pissed if I hadnt, but the wait wouldnt have been bad |
| 20:04:37 | krmathis | ... and want to give Rockbox a try! ;) |
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| 20:04:50 | yeahx | what are you going to put it on? |
| 20:05:04 | krmathis | 4GB iPod nano |
| 20:05:20 | yeahx | oh ok, I have it on 2gb nano |
| 20:05:52 | yeahx | I havented updated for a few days cause I havent seen anything worth it, but I might today before I go to work |
| 20:06:17 | Mikachu | the fix for faster shutdown was committed |
| 20:06:59 | aegray | what got committed today? |
| 20:07:18 | yeahx | ic |
| 20:07:35 | aegray | oh wow its right ther |
| 20:07:36 | aegray | hahahaa |
| 20:07:49 | Mikachu | maybe more fun is the brickmania "port" to nano's screen |
| 20:08:12 | preglow | aegray: yo |
| 20:08:32 | aegray | hi preglow |
| 20:08:32 | preglow | aegray: you got any idea why a 4g ipod would vomit when doing dynamic cpu freq changing? |
| 20:08:50 | preglow | i've got code working fine on nano and 5g, but 4g has some serious problems |
| 20:08:54 | aegray | what else are you doing when you do it? |
| 20:09:00 | preglow | what we usually do |
| 20:09:03 | preglow | navigate, play music |
| 20:09:14 | aegray | huh |
| 20:09:19 | aegray | lemme think |
| 20:10:07 | yeahx | there is no battery meter and you have to boot back into original firmware to charge and mount the nano |
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| 20:10:19 | yeahx | but its cool for gapless and ogg playback |
| 20:10:31 | preglow | rockbox can charge as well, no? |
| 20:10:37 | aegray | preglow: can you narrow it down to any specific thing like music or is it just random? |
| 20:10:59 | preglow | you'd have to ask linuxstb, he's the one with the actual 4g |
| 20:11:05 | preglow | i just did the code |
| 20:11:08 | aegray | linuxstb: ping? |
| 20:11:37 | yeahx | I dont know, I just get a large usb connector when I hook it up with rb loaded |
| 20:12:46 | Nico | what's the simplest way of knowing if a file exists ? |
| 20:12:59 | Mikachu | in what os? |
| 20:13:03 | Nico | in rockbox |
| 20:13:41 | Nico | sorry that question probably wasn't for me :p |
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| 20:13:56 | Mikachu | it was, but i don't know about rb |
| 20:14:00 | Nico | ah ok |
| 20:14:27 | yeahx | oh me? |
| 20:14:45 | yeahx | dont think so |
| 20:15:42 | safetydan | Nico, probably checking the resut of open() |
| 20:15:47 | Zefrem23 | I'd like to ask a newbie question here: is the battery meter difficult to implement for ipod 4g? |
| 20:15:48 | safetydan | though you'll have to close it then |
| 20:16:06 | safetydan | Nico, you might be able to use the dircache functions if speed is important |
| 20:16:54 | Nico | safetydan: it is |
| 20:17:03 | Nico | but actually i think i found another way |
| 20:17:15 | Nico | not using files at all |
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| 20:23:45 | linuxstb | krmathis: I'm just finishing an "installation from Mac OS" page - you can be the beta-tester.... |
| 20:24:28 | krmathis | More than happy to. |
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| 20:25:07 | yeahx | I would but its too late :) |
| 20:25:18 | Paprica | how can i add a page for brickmania? |
| 20:25:34 | krmathis | Do you want me to test the steps before you make the page official? |
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| 20:28:20 | linuxstb | krmathis: It's there now: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
| 20:29:03 | krmathis | Thanks! I have my iPod ready and test it right away... |
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| 20:31:31 | linuxstb | aegray: I don't think the CPU frequency changing crashes on my 4g (Color) are random, but I need to do some more testing first. |
| 20:31:57 | aegray | k |
| 20:32:07 | aegray | pm me if you figure something cool out :) |
| 20:32:14 | markun | Paprica: go here (for example) and click create: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewauth/Main/Brickmania |
| 20:32:35 | Paprica | oh ok |
| 20:32:40 | linuxstb | markun: Shouldn't that be PluginBrickmania to follow the convention? |
| 20:33:24 | Bger | LinusN here ?:) |
| 20:34:07 | Nico | what is the difference between changing the currently played file from the browser and with PREV/NEXT ? |
| 20:34:16 | Nico | it's for my album art patch |
| 20:34:28 | Bger | Nico with prev/next u use the playlist |
| 20:34:30 | Nico | on the first case it works fine and on the second it crashes |
| 20:35:03 | linuxstb | Nico: Have you tried using the simulator? That can help debugging these sort of problems. |
| 20:35:12 | Nico | linuxstb: i am |
| 20:35:16 | Bger | and when u're doing it from the browser it makes a new playlist |
| 20:35:25 | Nico | but i don't really know how to debug |
| 20:35:33 | linuxstb | Do you have gdb installed? |
| 20:35:49 | slimx | linuxstb, the amnicon commit do the same but faster |
| 20:35:51 | slimx | :) |
| 20:36:06 | slimx | nice work from amnicon |
| 20:36:09 | linuxstb | slimx: OK :) He's like that.... |
| 20:36:10 | Nico | well i don't know how to use it and i didn't find any info on the wiki so i didn't install it... |
| 20:36:14 | Nico | i'll do that |
| 20:36:18 | slimx | the problem is in usb_init |
| 20:36:20 | slimx | :) |
| 20:36:37 | krmathis | linuxstb: Problems. Should I take it here on in a private chat? |
| 20:37:01 | linuxstb | Let's do it privately. |
| 20:37:36 | Nico | linuxstb: i may need a little help on gdb privatly too... |
| 20:37:40 | Nico | hope you don't mind |
| 20:37:50 | linuxstb | Nico: I'm not an expert on gdb - ask here, and I'm sure others can help. |
| 20:37:59 | Nico | ok |
| 20:38:07 | linuxstb | I know about two commands in gdb - "run" and "bt" |
| 20:38:10 | krmathis | linuxstb: Registered at freenode? Where |
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| 20:39:44 | linuxstb | krmathis: I think you just need to enter /msg nickserv register <your-password> |
| 20:40:36 | Bger | petur ? |
| 20:40:40 | Bger | any progress ? ;) |
| 20:41:16 | Mikachu | you can disable that "feature" in nickserv if you want to be able to receive msgs from unregged people |
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| 20:42:31 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes, I've just discovered that... |
| 20:43:13 | krmathis | linuxstb: It just tells me that "irc.freenode.net is not online. Any messages sent will not be received." |
| 20:43:51 | linuxstb | krmathis: I'm now accepting messages from anyone and anything. So you don't need to register. |
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| 20:45:18 | amiconn | Paprica: (1) brickmania will also be compiled (and should work) on 4g greyscale iPod now. (2) Can we expect more bitmaps for brickmania (iAudio X5, perhaps even archsos)? |
| 20:45:19 | Mikachu | here's a patch to make brickmania slightly smaller, http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-brickmania-static-inline.patch |
| 20:45:51 | Mikachu | only the inline changes make an actual difference to the .rock |
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| 20:46:41 | webguest31 | can rockbox be installed on ipods? |
| 20:46:51 | yeahx | sometimes |
| 20:46:58 | webguest31 | or only the archos jukeboxes? |
| 20:47:13 | yeahx | check out the website, it has a list of players |
| 20:47:17 | yeahx | yes some ipods |
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| 20:47:45 | webguest31 | fun.. thanks, was a little unclear on that one.. don't have one but seems like a neat project |
| 20:48:42 | Paprica | amiconn, i think that the archos screen is very small for brickmania |
| 20:49:02 | yeahx | its still new on ipod but it works decent so far |
| 20:49:29 | amiconn | Someone started working on a breakout clone for archos some months ago, but didn't finish it... |
| 20:49:38 | Mikachu | i want conways life |
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| 20:49:47 | Paprica | and i will work on brickmania bitmaps for X5 |
| 20:50:03 | petur | Bger: no progress, no :( |
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| 20:50:56 | amiconn | My old mobile phone had a breakout clone game, and it had a similar lcd as the archos... |
| 20:51:19 | Bger | petur :( |
| 20:51:52 | Paprica | ok i'll try to do somthing |
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| 20:58:33 | amiconn | At least the archos lcd isn't as slow as the H1x0 lcd |
| 20:59:03 | amiconn | The ball becomes almost invisible when moving on H1x0 |
| 20:59:53 | Paprica | =\ |
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| 21:01:33 | Paprica | the archos is only B&W? |
| 21:02:01 | Bger | very strange ... |
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| 21:02:15 | Bger | didn't succeed to go into usb mode... |
| 21:02:36 | Bger | neither in bootloader, nor in rockbox |
| 21:03:02 | amiconn | Paprica: Yes |
| 21:03:10 | Paprica | ok |
| 21:03:38 | Paprica | and what is the lcd size? |
| 21:03:44 | amiconn | We could try to use the grayscale lib, but I'm afraid it won't fit, and it might also be too slow |
| 21:03:49 | amiconn | 112x64 |
| 21:04:03 | amiconn | The iFP7x0 is similar, 128x64 |
| 21:04:05 | t0mas | hm.. |
| 21:04:13 | t0mas | is it true that we still have X11 sims? |
| 21:04:19 | Paprica | ok |
| 21:04:20 | t0mas | Ondio, H120, FM rec? |
| 21:04:26 | amiconn | Note that the pixels are taller than wide |
| 21:04:31 | t0mas | and player.. |
| 21:04:57 | amiconn | t0mas: The x11 sims are still selectable, even though the choice isn't displayed |
| 21:05:07 | amiconn | They build fine for all hwcodec targets |
| 21:05:14 | t0mas | yeah, but I ment: we don't have SDL for them? |
| 21:05:19 | amiconn | We do |
| 21:05:45 | t0mas | can you explain this: http://www.rockbox.org/~tomas/showlog.cgi?date=2006-02-20%2019%3A16%3A38&type=Ondio%20FM%20-%20Simulator |
| 21:05:50 | t0mas | Build (S)DL version? (S) |
| 21:05:50 | t0mas | Selected x11 simulator |
| 21:05:58 | amiconn | We have all 3 sim types for all targets, just win32 and x11 won't compile for swcodec |
| 21:06:16 | t0mas | hm... and SDL isn't set as the default yet for some? |
| 21:06:23 | amiconn | It is the default |
| 21:06:38 | t0mas | then why does it try to build a X11 sim for me? |
| 21:06:49 | amiconn | I don't know how you control 'configure', so I can't comment |
| 21:07:06 | t0mas | just hitting enter |
| 21:07:24 | amiconn | What's also strange is that some builds should show warnings (yellow), but don't |
| 21:07:49 | * | t0mas starts looking at it |
| 21:08:01 | amiconn | Check http://www.rockbox.org/~tomas/daily.shtml, top right link (latest h300 sim) |
| 21:08:22 | amiconn | . /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: creating a DT_TEXTREL in object |
| 21:08:29 | amiconn | A ton of warnings like that |
| 21:08:59 | t0mas | ld warnings aren't caught by the script |
| 21:09:01 | t0mas | araik |
| 21:09:03 | t0mas | *afaik |
| 21:12:13 | * | amiconn is also wondering what ld wants to tell us there |
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| 21:12:53 | slimx | file browser loaded in 3g |
| 21:12:54 | slimx | :) |
| 21:13:02 | linuxstb | congratulations... |
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| 21:13:40 | slimx | buttons don't work |
| 21:13:58 | preglow | slimx: oooh! |
| 21:14:03 | slimx | but we got it |
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| 21:21:00 | Nico | i'm almost sure the crashes i'm having on my patch n 1434758 (album art) are due to my lack of knowledge of C... |
| 21:21:49 | Nico | would someone mind looking at the 'strip_filename' function and the way it's used (that's only once) ? |
| 21:21:55 | Nico | should be rather easy |
| 21:22:20 | Paprica | brickmania works on the ipod 4 gray |
| 21:22:39 | Paprica | i dont know that it has the same size of lcs like the h100 |
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| 21:25:36 | lodesi | Nico: "const char* sep;" shouldn't be "const" :) |
| 21:27:11 | Nico | thatseemed strange to me too... but that part is just copied from the function above in the file, 'get_dir' |
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| 21:27:27 | Nico | anyway, i'll try without 'const' |
| 21:27:58 | lodesi | weird then.. |
| 21:28:08 | petur | what's the syntax to insert nops in c code? |
| 21:28:39 | lodesi | any reason not to do "fullpath[len]=0;" ? |
| 21:28:45 | Nico | lodesi: i think the strip_filename function should be ok, but not the way i use it |
| 21:28:47 | petur | (gcc-syntax that is) |
| 21:29:09 | Nico | i'm confused in strings... |
| 21:29:29 | Nico | fullpath[len] is already 0 |
| 21:29:45 | lodesi | oops.. yes |
| 21:29:51 | lodesi | i meant *sep=0; |
| 21:30:11 | lodesi | stripping directly "filename", without creating another buffer |
| 21:30:53 | safetydan | petur, I |
| 21:30:57 | safetydan | 'm not sure you can |
| 21:31:08 | safetydan | err... slip of the fingers |
| 21:31:24 | Nico | lodesi: you mean "fullpath[sep]=0;" ? |
| 21:31:51 | Nico | and then return fullpath ? |
| 21:31:58 | lodesi | yes sort of |
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| 21:32:12 | Nico | hmm i'll try that |
| 21:32:13 | safetydan | Nico, you could use snprintf() to replace some of those memcpy's I think |
| 21:32:28 | lodesi | no need, found it :) |
| 21:32:31 | lodesi | sizeof(path) will return 4 |
| 21:32:46 | Nico | not 128 ? |
| 21:32:47 | lodesi | as it returns the size of a 'char*', not the size of your array |
| 21:33:08 | lodesi | nop |
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| 21:34:23 | safetydan | something like snprintf(imgname_nocover, MAX_PATH, "%s/%s", bmpdir, ptr); |
| 21:34:32 | lodesi | you should use MAX_PATH instead of hard-coding 128 |
| 21:36:44 | lodesi | safetydan: strip |
| 21:36:51 | lodesi | oops |
| 21:37:12 | lodesi | strip_path("/blabla/img.bmp") should reutrn img.bmp |
| 21:37:58 | Nico | safetydan: the parts with memcpy are copied from another part... i didn't write them from scratch |
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| 21:39:14 | petur | how to inline asm in a c file with gcc? |
| 21:39:31 | safetydan | petur, take a look at dsp.c and the crossfeed routine |
| 21:39:39 | petur | ok |
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| 21:40:17 | safetydan | well maybe that won't be so useful, but at least it's an example |
| 21:40:32 | Nico | i replaced the parts with '128' hardcoded and 'sizeof(path)' by the following : |
| 21:40:33 | Nico | char path[MAX_PATH]; static char prev_path[MAX_PATH]; strip_filename(path, MAX_PATH, gwps->state->id3->path); |
| 21:40:36 | * | preglow just commited an example |
| 21:40:49 | Nico | and i get exactly the same prob |
| 21:41:05 | Nico | (according to gdb) |
| 21:42:41 | * | safetydan notes faster filled triangle patch from amiconn... waits for announcement that he's working on a 3D engine for Rockbox |
| 21:45:27 | safetydan | Nico, what's the back trace? |
| 21:48:09 | Nico | safetydan: can i redirect the output to a file ? |
| 21:48:19 | Nico | and how ? |
| 21:48:31 | safetydan | maybe, but you really only need the first few lines |
| 21:48:35 | safetydan | usually anyway |
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| 21:49:56 | Nico | i dind't manage to redirect and i can't copy, so here's a summary : |
| 21:50:31 | Nico | #0 is in strncpy at line 121 |
| 21:50:51 | Nico | #1 is in strip_filename at line 570 |
| 21:51:09 | Nico | #2 is in album_art at line 1390 |
| 21:51:31 | safetydan | okay, if you're still in gdb, you can type "print <variablename>" and it will print the variable value |
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| 21:52:08 | safetydan | so in this case you probably want to do "print len" to find out how big len is |
| 21:52:35 | Nico | i cant' access it |
| 21:53:01 | safetydan | gdb says you can't access it? |
| 21:53:29 | Nico | precisly, 'no symbol "len" in current context' |
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| 21:54:25 | safetydan | okay, maybe we need to start from scratch |
| 21:54:26 | safetydan | try this |
| 21:54:29 | safetydan | gdb ./rockboxui |
| 21:54:37 | safetydan | break strip_filename |
| 21:54:38 | safetydan | run |
| 21:55:01 | safetydan | gdb should then run the simulator until you hit the strip_filename function |
| 21:55:17 | Nico | yes, i made it stop |
| 21:55:31 | Nico | well it stopped when i loaded a song |
| 21:55:53 | safetydan | you should be able to print the value of len at this point |
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| 21:56:45 | Nico | i can |
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| 21:57:03 | Nico | but it's not really interesting at this point... |
| 21:57:23 | safetydan | if you type "continue" gdb will let the program run again |
| 21:57:28 | Nico | ok |
| 21:59:05 | pyro | The power management does conversions to calculate % of the battery. Anyone know how to view this? I only know about the little battery symbol, and the actual voltage (Debug menu) |
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| 22:04:38 | Nico | safetydan: i set a breakpoint on the line with the strncpy |
| 22:05:21 | Bger | pyro firmware/powermgmt.c |
| 22:05:27 | Nico | and when playong files in the root dir, i get len=1 twice for the first file i play (the function gets called twice per file) |
| 22:05:36 | Nico | then i press next |
| 22:06:01 | Nico | i get len=1 one first time, then len=-5523407 |
| 22:06:19 | Nico | then i do 'continue' and it crashes |
| 22:08:26 | safetydan | ah... I think your len calculation is confusing pointers and string lengths |
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| 22:08:48 | safetydan | sep - fullpath + 1 isn't doing what you think it's doing |
| 22:09:02 | Nico | well.. i know why : there is no '/' in 'fullpath' when it crashes |
| 22:09:19 | Nico | which is weird |
| 22:09:44 | safetydan | wait, I take that back, now I see what you're doing |
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| 22:11:15 | * | safetydan goes back to making the SDL player sim do the right thing |
| 22:11:35 | Nico | what's strange is that fullpath is supposed to be 'gwps->state->id3->path' |
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| 22:16:59 | lostlogic | anyone other than me had a chance to look at the iRiver power management patch on sourceforge? |
| 22:17:02 | Nico | hmm i think i got it |
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| 22:19:08 | pyro | lostlogic: I'm just starting to look at it |
| 22:19:14 | yeahx | guess I'll update my nano today |
| 22:20:05 | yeahx | brickmania weeee |
| 22:20:56 | pyro | lostlogic: I just loaded it on h320 5 min ago. Where did he get the new power values from? I'm just getting into rockbox code in the last week so I'm not all that familiar with it |
| 22:21:48 | lostlogic | pyro: I think it says in the comments that he measured them |
| 22:24:31 | pyro | lostlogic: Now I just have to run out my battery - which will probably be towards the end of this week |
| 22:24:34 | Nico | yeah it works fine on sim now |
| 22:24:44 | lostlogic | hehe |
| 22:25:10 | Nico | sometimes 'gwps->state->id3->path' was only returning the filename, which drove my 'strip_filename' crazy |
| 22:25:50 | pyro | lost: do you know what other features are required (in power mang) to make the bootloader boot into RB on AC power? |
| 22:25:51 | Nico | i'll try that on target now |
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| 22:27:31 | Nico | seems to mwork just fine :) |
| 22:28:38 | lostlogic | pyro: I believe that the bootloader -> AC is separate from these issues, and revolves around LinusN figuring out the power up and down sequences for the HDD better or some such |
| 22:30:05 | pyro | lostlogic: how long does it usually take for a patch such as this one to get commited? |
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| 22:31:23 | preglow | linuxstb: one thing is for sure, rockbox at 30mhz isn't very enjoyable, even without audio playing in the background |
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| 22:31:38 | preglow | linuxstb: and we'll pretty much need a freq that low for the whole cpu freq changing scheme to matter |
| 22:31:58 | linuxstb | Yep. So I guess optimising the UI has become a high priority. |
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| 22:32:06 | preglow | yeah, i think so |
| 22:32:17 | preglow | because this will apply even if we move codecs to the second core |
| 22:32:21 | Mikachu | but you can clock down when you're not using the ui then? |
| 22:32:42 | lostlogic | pyro: depends a lot −− if I read it and both understand and agree with what all it's doing, I"ll commit it soon −− I'm hoping you'll read through the code and see how the enw stuff he's doing relates to the stuff in HAVE_CHARGE_STATE defines and let me know what should be done with it :-P |
| 22:32:53 | linuxstb | Yes, we could boost whenever a key is pressed, and have some kind of timeout. |
| 22:33:00 | preglow | i guess |
| 22:33:03 | linuxstb | But that seems to be admitting defeat |
| 22:33:07 | preglow | indeed |
| 22:33:11 | preglow | so i say we atleast wait |
| 22:33:33 | linuxstb | I need some food, then I'll see if I can work out why it's crashing my 4g. |
| 22:33:42 | preglow | gr8 |
| 22:34:01 | linuxstb | Before I forget, do you have a copy of the original mbr from your Nano? |
| 22:34:17 | linuxstb | I'm starting a collection to help Mac-only uses convert from HFS to FAT32. |
| 22:34:17 | Mikachu | but even if you get the ui fluid at 30 mhz you could clock it even lower when idle? |
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| 22:34:28 | Mikachu | i have one around i think |
| 22:34:28 | linuxstb | s/uses/users/ |
| 22:34:36 | Mikachu | ipod_os_partition_backup.bz2 |
| 22:34:39 | Mikachu | 26M |
| 22:34:44 | Mikachu | or |
| 22:34:48 | linuxstb | Do you have ipodlinux installed? |
| 22:34:56 | preglow | linuxstb: yeah, i do |
| 22:35:00 | Mikachu | ipod_boot_sector_backup.bz2 224 bytes |
| 22:35:14 | Mikachu | i do but that backup is from before ipl |
| 22:35:15 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes, that's it. What ipod is that from? (and what disk size?) |
| 22:35:22 | Mikachu | nano and 2GB |
| 22:35:34 | Mikachu | which one? |
| 22:35:52 | linuxstb | The 224 byte one. But it's OK - preglow has an identical ipod. |
| 22:35:56 | Mikachu | ah |
| 22:36:05 | preglow | i can't find mine |
| 22:36:09 | linuxstb | :) |
| 22:36:16 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Back to you then... |
| 22:36:19 | Mikachu | mikachu.ath.cx/ipod_boot_sector_backup.bz2 |
| 22:36:34 | Mikachu | "This is your Apple iPod. You probably do not want to boot from it!" :) |
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| 22:37:57 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Thanks - I've got it now. |
| 22:38:11 | Mikachu | i checked that it's different from what's on my ipod now too |
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| 22:38:23 | Mikachu | so i'm arbitrarily close to 100% sure it's the right one |
| 22:38:44 | preglow | hrmph |
| 22:38:58 | preglow | my arm flac optimisation crashes for mysterious reasons |
| 22:39:25 | Nico | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1434758&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
| 22:39:29 | Nico | updated :D |
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| 22:55:02 | Bger | lostlogic link to the powermgmt patch ? |
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| 22:55:58 | lostlogic | there are two on sourceforge by vinylivo: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1433883&group_id=44306&atid=439120 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1427816&group_id=44306&atid=439120 |
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| 22:59:47 | webguest19 | what is the min voltage that rockbox shuts down at ? |
| 22:59:58 | preglow | min voltage? :O |
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| 23:00:24 | Mikachu | you mean the max voltage? |
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| 23:00:31 | Mikachu | hopefully it will shut down for all voltages under that |
| 23:00:37 | preglow | but no |
| 23:00:39 | preglow | it doesn't |
| 23:00:49 | preglow | currently, rockbox doesn't shut down at all before the hardware does it |
| 23:01:03 | preglow | someone should change that |
| 23:01:37 | linuxstb | preglow: Any idea why I would get a prefect abort at 60005FFE ? |
| 23:01:44 | linuxstb | prefetch... |
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| 23:02:24 | webguest19 | so Rockbox doesn't shutdown if voltage gets to a minimum level ? |
| 23:03:49 | lostlogic | it's being worked on... |
| 23:04:15 | lostlogic | it does shutdown when it can't spin up the disk, or if the battery level reaches critical (which is far too low to spin the disk) |
| 23:04:56 | webguest19 | minimum disk operating voltage is 3.3 volts ? |
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| 23:05:46 | petur | LinusN: around and got time? |
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| 23:06:12 | LinusN | around, but not much time |
| 23:07:13 | webguest19 | hmm, so what is the voltage that the hartdware will shut down at (H140) ? |
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| 23:07:17 | petur | I'll read datasheets then ;) |
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| 23:08:07 | Stanley_fu | hey |
| 23:08:12 | Stanley_fu | anyone here |
| 23:08:12 | Stanley_fu | lol |
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| 23:08:25 | preglow | ahaha |
| 23:08:27 | | Join lets_play413 [0] (n=41319b88@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:08:59 | petur | LinusN: how did you determine HC and DC ports earlier today? can't find any reference to the HC... |
| 23:09:57 | lets_play413 | anyone know how many people r helping with gigabeat??? |
| 23:10:19 | preglow | not many |
| 23:10:21 | preglow | markun is the main guiy |
| 23:10:23 | preglow | guy too |
| 23:10:23 | lets_play413 | oh |
| 23:10:50 | lets_play413 | but im hearing stuff about it |
| 23:11:18 | lets_play413 | like xvid player etc |
| 23:11:25 | * | lostlogic speeds up the apply_gain function by several instructions |
| 23:12:31 | preglow | lostlogic: what that thing needs is nice good old-fashioned block fetching |
| 23:12:32 | LinusN | petur: i looked at page 21 |
| 23:12:53 | linuxstb | preglow: I can't see any patterns in the crashes. It just seems to sometimes crash when (I assume) changing speed. |
| 23:12:55 | preglow | just fetching one value at a time is a waste when you're just doing gain |
| 23:13:05 | petur | oh, from the datasheets, not the disassembly... |
| 23:13:06 | lostlogic | preglow: ya think? line reads? seems like it wouldn't be worth the code complexity in this place. |
| 23:13:28 | preglow | lostlogic: every little bit helps, i'll probably do it myself some day |
| 23:13:59 | lostlogic | *nod* well I'm making my little tweak for now −− looks like a percent or two worth of boost can be gained just by restructuring the function slightly and reducing register usage |
| 23:14:00 | preglow | all the dsp functions should be coded in assembly :> |
| 23:14:25 | lostlogic | the problem with line reads is that we can't guarantee line-aligned input data eh? |
| 23:15:01 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 23:15:44 | preglow | well, just read more than a line, then |
| 23:15:48 | preglow | two lines, for example |
| 23:16:03 | preglow | even if it's not line aligned, it'll still be faster |
| 23:16:25 | preglow | 1. because of the reduced instruction fetching, 2. because line reading naturally requires you to do loop unrolling |
| 23:16:33 | lostlogic | I'll leave that to you, and just optimize the C for now. |
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| 23:17:19 | preglow | more than good enough |
| 23:17:25 | preglow | we'll want to use that routine in the eq as well soon |
| 23:21:06 | Bger | nite |
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| 23:26:06 | | Join joesomebody [0] (n=asdf@12-207-17-4.client.mchsi.com) |
| 23:26:11 | joesomebody | hello everyone |
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| 23:27:07 | perpleXa | heya |
| 23:27:21 | perpleXa | anyone made some themes foe the 5g? |
| 23:27:27 | | Join ssnajper [0] (n=c635c9fe@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:27:59 | joesomebody | there is one called ipodfun |
| 23:28:04 | | Quit jwcgator () |
| 23:28:09 | joesomebody | but it is in the forums and they are down |
| 23:28:15 | | Join webguest65 [0] (n=5936957c@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:28:16 | joesomebody | i have a copy somewhere though |
| 23:28:24 | | Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") |
| 23:28:31 | joesomebody | do you want it? |
| 23:28:41 | perpleXa | would be nice if you could dcc it =) |
| 23:28:41 | | Quit ssnajper (Client Quit) |
| 23:29:08 | joesomebody | lemme find it |
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| 23:31:02 | saa[b_r]ider | qucik question, can a single image be assigned to two different locations in the WPS? |
| 23:31:16 | joesomebody | i think so |
| 23:31:34 | markun | preglow: those gigabeat users are starting to come here more frequent it seams. you can refer them to #gigabeat if you like. |
| 23:31:55 | saa[b_r]ider | so say: |
| 23:32:02 | saa[b_r]ider | %xl|a|image1.bmp|0|0| |
| 23:32:09 | saa[b_r]ider | %xl|b|image1.bmp|10|10| |
| 23:32:10 | saa[b_r]ider | ? |
| 23:33:33 | | Quit Siku () |
| 23:33:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | saa[b_r]ider: I think that's supposed to work. Why not just try it? |
| 23:33:44 | | Quit muesli__ ("ich will Khe!!!") |
| 23:34:17 | saa[b_r]ider | sure I will, I'm currently in the planning stage... and I still haven't updated to the new RB build |
| 23:34:18 | * | perpleXa pokes joesomebody |
| 23:34:23 | perpleXa | found it? :) |
| 23:34:56 | preglow | linuxstb: had a look at the demux.c patch on the tracker? |
| 23:35:08 | joesomebody | i had to rezip it |
| 23:35:13 | joesomebody | re rar that is |
| 23:35:29 | joesomebody | and i suck at irc so i am putting on rapidshare...its small tho |
| 23:35:33 | joesomebody | it won't take long |
| 23:35:43 | perpleXa | :) |
| 23:36:02 | joesomebody | there are three versions...the ipodvideofun is the one you want, screensize wise |
| 23:36:04 | joesomebody | http://rapidshare.de/files/13745323/ipodfun.rar.html |
| 23:36:51 | perpleXa | wtf.. |
| 23:36:51 | perpleXa | You want to download ipodfun.rar |
| 23:36:55 | perpleXa | and where to click |
| 23:36:56 | perpleXa | ? :P |
| 23:37:07 | joesomebody | go down and click the free button |
| 23:37:10 | perpleXa | nice that page knows what i wanna do.. :> |
| 23:37:23 | perpleXa | ok :) |
| 23:37:27 | joesomebody | its in denmark...what do you expect? |
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| 23:37:52 | perpleXa | germany, actually |
| 23:38:12 | perpleXa | man its time for perplexa.nat to come back online.. |
| 23:38:16 | perpleXa | net* |
| 23:38:30 | perpleXa | had a upload page for users.. :) |
| 23:38:32 | joesomebody | it sucks that the forums are down |
| 23:38:33 | perpleXa | an |
| 23:38:35 | joesomebody | i miss it |
| 23:38:55 | joesomebody | don't worry about grammar...this is the internet, where people sometimes talk like this: |
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| 23:39:07 | | Quit DT291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:39:14 | joesomebody | j00 n00b..1 ju57 pwn3d j000 |
| 23:39:16 | joesomebody | and such |
| 23:39:16 | perpleXa | yeah, well |
| 23:39:19 | joesomebody | lol |
| 23:39:20 | perpleXa | heh |
| 23:39:33 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 23:39:49 | joesomebody | i get so sick of not-so 13375p34k |
| 23:39:51 | perpleXa | i made an addon that simulates 5L beers |
| 23:39:56 | joesomebody | lol |
| 23:40:02 | perpleXa | wait, gonna find it |
| 23:40:29 | perpleXa | -23:40:24- Info fake drunken activated |
| 23:40:33 | perpleXa | lets write soeothing |
| 23:40:57 | perpleXa | isnwnorking welll wen i wrte to fast |
| 23:41:14 | joesomebody | lol |
| 23:41:16 | joesomebody | that's great |
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| 23:41:39 | joesomebody | have another on me :) |
| 23:41:47 | perpleXa | it's for mirc :P |
| 23:41:56 | perpleXa | i can upload that, if you want me to |
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| 23:42:26 | joesomebody | that's ok...i have enough problems using mirc as is is...technically, i am a n00b at that...as well as linux |
| 23:42:35 | joesomebody | desktop linux, that is |
| 23:42:41 | joesomebody | but i like ubuntu |
| 23:43:00 | perpleXa | http://nopaste.php-q.net/193322 |
| 23:43:01 | perpleXa | :D |
| 23:43:25 | perpleXa | i'm using gentoo, running mirc in wine :X |
| 23:43:29 | joesomebody | i can't resist |
| 23:43:36 | joesomebody | i gotta get it |
| 23:43:42 | perpleXa | irssi sucks, and xchat is even worse :( |
| 23:44:13 | joesomebody | i know...right now i am on winblows |
| 23:44:23 | perpleXa | and since version 6.17 mirc supports utf-8 thats just great =) |
| 23:44:52 | joesomebody | mirc should be ported to 'nix |
| 23:45:17 | joesomebody | so you don't have to deal with wine |
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| 23:46:02 | preglow | all you need is irssi |
| 23:46:07 | perpleXa | well, it should, but i guess its using way too much windows.h functions |
| 23:46:09 | Bagder | xchat is mirc for linux |
| 23:46:23 | perpleXa | xchat is like poo in my pants |
| 23:46:25 | joesomebody | but after using mirc you get a bit spoiled |
| 23:46:26 | perpleXa | :P |
| 23:46:46 | preglow | we prefer the term "bag of shit" here |
| 23:46:57 | Bagder | yeps, that's the phrase to use |
| 23:47:03 | perpleXa | ok :D |
| 23:47:22 | markun | preglow: I think it's a quote I will never forget for the rest of my life :) |
| 23:47:30 | preglow | if something looks, sounds, feels or tastes funny, just use that expression |
| 23:47:32 | preglow | it covers all |
| 23:47:46 | joesomebody | would be nice if viewer in rockbox supported html...then you could skip to chapters in ebooks |
| 23:47:57 | lostlogic | hmm, don't think line read would help in apply_gain, but line write might... (the reads are done during the macs at least on coldfire) |
| 23:48:03 | Bagder | joesomebody: start writing |
| 23:48:13 | joesomebody | i gotta learn C first |
| 23:48:14 | joesomebody | lol |
| 23:48:19 | markun | joesomebody: port w3m, links or elinks.. |
| 23:48:27 | preglow | lostlogic: line reading would be faster than parallel load via mac.l, i think |
| 23:48:28 | markun | or lynx |
| 23:48:40 | joesomebody | i like lynx |
| 23:48:50 | Bagder | lync is quite surpassed though these days |
| 23:48:53 | Bagder | lynx |
| 23:48:56 | preglow | oh yes |
| 23:49:06 | perpleXa | could anyone send me the simulator, for windows? |
| 23:49:23 | Bagder | I can point to the source! ;-) |
| 23:49:47 | lostlogic | Hmm, I do wonder... line write will be an easier optimization, because we can be sure that the sample_buf is line aligned |
| 23:49:49 | perpleXa | nah that would require me to install vs2k3 |
| 23:49:54 | joesomebody | gutenburg and textfiles.com both are good places for stuff to put on your rockbox for reading |
| 23:49:55 | perpleXa | :> |
| 23:50:18 | joesomebody | textfiles has some nice destructive stuff lol |
| 23:50:45 | Bagder | perpleXa: rockbox needs cygwin to build on windows |
| 23:50:47 | joesomebody | dang...development on ipodlinux seems so much slower than rockbox |
| 23:50:54 | lostlogic | preglow: how would one declare a variable as aligned to 16 bytes? |
| 23:51:00 | Bagder | joesomebody: it is and always was |
| 23:51:19 | perpleXa | Bagder: i have cygwin, but i've seen vs prject files in the simulator filder |
| 23:51:21 | perpleXa | foldeR* |
| 23:51:28 | preglow | lostlogic: dunno |
| 23:51:39 | Bagder | perpleXa: that was just a remainder from veeeery long ago |
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| 23:52:40 | lostlogic | __attribute__((aligned(16))) |
| 23:53:11 | linuxstb | Any ipod 5g owners here who have complained about mono playback? |
| 23:53:52 | michaelconner | hi... I've got a weird bug on my iPod Photo running the daily build from 18 Feb |
| 23:54:17 | michaelconner | I've had it twice play all the files in the directory and then I get the "shutdown" message and it shuts down. |
| 23:54:43 | michaelconner | Is this a known issue? |
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| 23:56:29 | Zagor | test drive the new bugtracker: http://www.rockbox.org/__bugs/ |
| 23:57:03 | michaelconner | zagor: will do so |
| 23:57:24 | Zagor | it wasn't directed specifically to you :-) |
| 23:57:26 | LinusN | Zagor: the bug tracker is uglu! i want user configurable menus, and backdrops! |
| 23:57:33 | LinusN | and video |
| 23:57:38 | michaelconner | oops |
| 23:57:40 | moozooh | lol |
| 23:57:46 | Zagor | LinusN: submit a patch |
| 23:57:55 | Bagder | it looks like a "Bag Of Shit" ! ;-) |
| 23:57:58 | LinusN | that bug tracker is sooo msdos, and looks like a bag of shit |
| 23:58:06 | LinusN | :-) |
| 23:58:09 | saa[b_r]ider | java support too? |
| 23:58:11 | Zagor | you're forum damaged, the lot of you |
| 23:58:11 | linuxstb | There are also far too many bugs and feature requests. Can you delete them all? |
| 23:58:17 | saa[b_r]ider | and wma |
| 23:58:28 | Bagder | Zagor: I'd say "user damaged"... |
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