| 00:00:02 | PhoenixSpirit | i see... |
| 00:00:26 | PhoenixSpirit | but H1xx development is still running, is it ? |
| 00:00:34 | PhoenixSpirit | isn't it ? :) |
| 00:00:42 | amiconn | rockbox development is still running, for all targets |
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| 00:00:58 | PhoenixSpirit | great |
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| 00:01:34 | PhoenixSpirit | it would be such a pity if this project was cancelled |
| 00:01:46 | amiconn | preglow: Just for mem speed comparison: SH1 manages 2MB in 0.18s. That's at 11 MHz ... |
| 00:02:10 | PhoenixSpirit | with rocbkox, your MP3 player does worth 3 times of its original price :) in theory :) |
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| 00:02:12 | preglow | fast ram? |
| 00:02:15 | JdGordon | mornng all |
| 00:02:18 | amiconn | PhoenixSpirit: rockbox keeps going for >4 years now |
| 00:02:40 | amiconn | preglow: fast page mode dram. Nothing special... |
| 00:02:49 | PhoenixSpirit | amiconn : I heard about it, but only installed it recently |
| 00:03:19 | PhoenixSpirit | because the older builds didn't have the remote working well |
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| 00:03:42 | amiconn | It seems most devs don't care much about the remote |
| 00:03:46 | amiconn | (including me) |
| 00:03:52 | PhoenixSpirit | :) |
| 00:04:03 | Kohlrabi | well |
| 00:04:08 | amiconn | That's why development is rather slow in that direction... |
| 00:04:21 | Kohlrabi | Remote increased usability and usefulness alot, IMHO |
| 00:04:27 | Kohlrabi | +support* |
| 00:04:33 | PhoenixSpirit | sorry to hear that...I think the remote greatly enhances usability and flexibility in the case of the H1xx |
| 00:04:58 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:04:58 | * | preglow kills his arm |
| 00:05:08 | * | amiconn never uses the remote for real, only occasionally for dev purposes |
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| 00:05:38 | PhoenixSpirit | i see...btw, is there a function yet for queuing up tracks with a single button push ? |
| 00:05:44 | PhoenixSpirit | like in original iRiver fw |
| 00:05:47 | amiconn | It's an extra part to carry around, taking space, having a fiddly cable... |
| 00:05:52 | Kohlrabi | Well, I stuff my main unit somerwhere deep in my pockets where it's nearly safe, and have the remote in easy reach |
| 00:06:22 | Kohlrabi | It's much more convenient to just take out a small stick to switch tracks than the whole unit |
| 00:06:36 | PhoenixSpirit | I wear it on my belt, though sometimes it's a little uncomfortable....should buy an iSkin with that rotating belt clip to reduce this :) |
| 00:06:46 | amiconn | I can operate the main unit w/o looking at it, thanks to the voice UI. Apart from that I seldom change anything when I started playing an album |
| 00:06:52 | Cassandra | One of the many little things that need fixing before 3.0 |
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| 00:07:34 | * | Cassandra wonders if we're going to end up disabling swathes of functionality that doesn't quite work because no-one's got the time or interest to fix it. |
| 00:07:34 | PhoenixSpirit | amiconn : I haven't tried the Voice UI yet...is it working good ? |
| 00:07:51 | Kohlrabi | since remote support I hardly used the main unit ;) |
| 00:08:01 | amiconn | Not too well yet on iriver & other swcodec units |
| 00:08:07 | amiconn | A couple of quirks |
| 00:08:11 | Kohlrabi | I don't like someone talking while I listen to music |
| 00:08:11 | PhoenixSpirit | Cassandra : are you a dev too ? |
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| 00:08:21 | PhoenixSpirit | amiconn : for example ? |
| 00:08:24 | Kohlrabi | +in my headphones ;) |
| 00:08:35 | PhoenixSpirit | Kohlrabi : right, so do I :) |
| 00:08:49 | Cassandra | PhoenixSpirit, yes, but not a very active one at the moment, unfortunately. |
| 00:09:06 | Cassandra | Strangely there are quite a few Rockbox developers on this channel. |
| 00:09:10 | Kohlrabi | Well, I got along without remote support, but it's so much nicer now ;) |
| 00:09:16 | PhoenixSpirit | Cassandra : I see...what parts have you been working at ? |
| 00:09:29 | Kohlrabi | I noticed though that the rockbox logo doesn't come up in recent builds on the remote... |
| 00:09:38 | Kohlrabi | but I'll wait for the main dev... ;) |
| 00:09:53 | Cassandra | Manual, installer, wake up alarm, gui stuff, this and that. |
| 00:09:58 | Kohlrabi | (still TiMid or what his name was?) |
| 00:10:10 | JdGordon | its all a consipiracy against me isnt it?? some1 commit my colour patch :'( |
| 00:10:18 | PhoenixSpirit | Cassandra : nice...thank you for the good work ;) |
| 00:10:26 | amiconn | Kohlrabi: Oh? Maybe linuxstb broke the logo display with the latest change to the bmp build system... |
| 00:10:36 | Kohlrabi | yeah, well |
| 00:10:43 | Kohlrabi | It's nothing serious, though :) |
| 00:11:04 | PhoenixSpirit | btw, about the functions... |
| 00:11:07 | Cassandra | Your welcome, but there are lots of people who've done more than me. |
| 00:11:16 | Kohlrabi | though it would be nice to show battery voltage on the remote on startup |
| 00:11:24 | PhoenixSpirit | i see, I would like to thank them, too :) |
| 00:11:34 | amiconn | Hmm. Info->Version does bring up the logo, so it's built in |
| 00:11:47 | Cassandra | Donating to Rockbox is a good way to say 'thanks'. |
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| 00:11:59 | Cassandra | Helps us get new hardware for development. |
| 00:12:03 | PhoenixSpirit | strangely, in some wsp's the battery and volume level isn't displayed correctly on the remote |
| 00:12:23 | Cassandra | (Although thanks of a more ephemeral kind is thanks enough. *smile*) |
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| 00:12:33 | PhoenixSpirit | Cassandra : I think I could give some for it, too :) |
| 00:13:15 | preglow | i think something i wont like is brewing in my right arm |
| 00:13:20 | preglow | send me money for cyborg arms |
| 00:13:30 | PhoenixSpirit | :) |
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| 00:14:11 | * | Cassandra offers to replace preglow's arms with, erm, satsumas. |
| 00:14:40 | preglow | beats nothing, thanks! |
| 00:16:01 | * | amiconn would like to see cube.rock realtime performance (in highspeed mode) on iPod, preferable iPod color and/or video |
| 00:16:23 | PhoenixSpirit | btw, about sound quality things.... |
| 00:16:41 | PhoenixSpirit | does rockbox offer better sound quality than iriver fw ? |
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| 00:16:54 | PhoenixSpirit | I know it has been a question for a while... |
| 00:17:06 | Kohlrabi | um |
| 00:17:29 | Kohlrabi | You'd have to make a ABX test of some sort, to get subjective results |
| 00:17:49 | Kohlrabi | Dunno about decoder inherited quality |
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| 00:18:27 | PhoenixSpirit | ok....for me, the sound seems a little more 'natural' then the original iriver sound |
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| 00:18:41 | Kohlrabi | I like the WOW-Sound stuff |
| 00:18:56 | PhoenixSpirit | SRS ? |
| 00:19:04 | Kohlrabi | But since I want gapless playback I won't use iRiver FW for music playback again :) |
| 00:19:07 | PhoenixSpirit | not bad with some decent headphones :) |
| 00:19:07 | Kohlrabi | yeah |
| 00:19:30 | PhoenixSpirit | same for me...only for playing WMA's and using the optical in/out |
| 00:19:45 | amiconn | optical out should work in rockbox |
| 00:19:51 | Kohlrabi | thought so too |
| 00:19:58 | PhoenixSpirit | is crossfeed worth enabling ? apart from volume reduction |
| 00:20:10 | Kohlrabi | what does crossfeed do? |
| 00:20:11 | Kohlrabi | ;) |
| 00:20:23 | PhoenixSpirit | I've read that it mixes the two channels, so |
| 00:20:26 | Cassandra | amiconn, how'd you make it go realtime? |
| 00:20:38 | PhoenixSpirit | what is intended to sound on the left, will sound on the right, too |
| 00:20:41 | PhoenixSpirit | and vice versa |
| 00:20:42 | Kohlrabi | ah |
| 00:20:43 | Kohlrabi | nice |
| 00:20:47 | PhoenixSpirit | but at the cost of volume |
| 00:20:53 | midkay | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualMainMenu#Crossfeed |
| 00:20:54 | Kohlrabi | hmm |
| 00:21:03 | amiconn | Cassandra: I want to see how fast it goes. cube.rock is a good drawing speed test |
| 00:21:09 | Kohlrabi | I find myself turniong volume up quite high, though |
| 00:21:12 | PhoenixSpirit | and you won't get the same music effects back that was originally intended |
| 00:21:22 | Kohlrabi | since I replaygained all tracks, and the busses are loud here ;) |
| 00:21:29 | Cassandra | amiconn, but how do I make it go fast. (I want to see what it's like on the Nano.) |
| 00:21:32 | midkay | Cassandra, you can make it realtime with select+play iirc.. |
| 00:21:45 | PhoenixSpirit | I mean, if the studio people wanted some effect to sound it on the left/right only... :) |
| 00:21:48 | Kohlrabi | yeah, some music lives because of it's 'steroism' ;) |
| 00:21:55 | dpassen1 | I still don't know why Crossfeed lowers the volune |
| 00:21:59 | PhoenixSpirit | that's right |
| 00:22:06 | amiconn | Cassandra: Press Select+Play to switch highspeed on/off |
| 00:22:14 | Cassandra | That's making me feel vaguely dizzy |
| 00:22:20 | amiconn | #elif (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IPOD_4G_PAD) |
| 00:22:26 | amiconn | #define CUBE_HIGHSPEED (BUTTON_SELECT | BUTTON_PLAY) |
| 00:22:45 | amiconn | The plugin docs in the wiki need work :/ |
| 00:22:50 | PhoenixSpirit | Kohlrabi : what kind of ear/headphones do you use on the bus (and in other places) ? :) |
| 00:23:06 | amiconn | nano has less data to move |
| 00:23:21 | Kohlrabi | Panasonic RP-HZE10 |
| 00:23:32 | amiconn | On h1x0 it's so fast that the cube appears as a blurry something |
| 00:23:34 | Kohlrabi | I can't describe ;) |
| 00:23:57 | Kohlrabi | I am missing the english terms for headphones |
| 00:24:03 | Kohlrabi | I'll try to look it up :) |
| 00:24:10 | midkay | it's not so fast on the video model :) |
| 00:24:11 | PhoenixSpirit | Kohlrabi : is it an earphone or a headphone ? they don't sell this model by us :S |
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| 00:24:39 | Cassandra | If you set x,y and z to 10, then it makes you feel *really* dizzy. |
| 00:25:06 | Kohlrabi | it's sort of in between :) |
| 00:25:07 | amiconn | Cassandra: Try cube on your FMR. It uses the grayscale lib on archos nowadays... |
| 00:25:07 | Kohlrabi | http://img.shopping.com/cctool/PrdImg/images/pr/177X150/00/01/83/a9/23/25405731.JPG |
| 00:25:14 | Cassandra | I'm getting persistence artifacts at that speed. |
| 00:25:49 | Cassandra | I had a look when you first did it, I think. It looked pretty cool. |
| 00:26:29 | PhoenixSpirit | Kohlrabi : ok...I'm using Sennheiser HD202's, they are great on cutting off outside noise :) sort of bulky, though :) |
| 00:26:32 | Kohlrabi | called Clip-Earphones |
| 00:26:48 | Kohlrabi | yeah |
| 00:26:55 | Kohlrabi | I have Sennheisers for home music |
| 00:27:08 | Kohlrabi | But I don't want to carry around a whole set of headphones |
| 00:27:18 | Kohlrabi | And I don't like sticking the earphone sin my ear |
| 00:27:19 | PhoenixSpirit | I know that style...I decided to switch to closed headphones, so I don't have to set the volume high |
| 00:27:23 | Kohlrabi | so these guys are a compromise |
| 00:27:36 | PhoenixSpirit | okay, I see now :) |
| 00:27:44 | Kohlrabi | For long trips I use the Sennheisers ;) |
| 00:27:49 | PhoenixSpirit | what kind ? |
| 00:27:50 | Mikachu | i got fire working pretty well with color |
| 00:27:58 | preglow | gotta go, later |
| 00:28:08 | Kohlrabi | HD 497 |
| 00:28:09 | PhoenixSpirit | bye preglow, c u |
| 00:28:10 | midkay | Mikachu, cool, i wanna see :D |
| 00:28:23 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-fire-color-v2.patch |
| 00:28:25 | PhoenixSpirit | Kohlrabi : are they good ? |
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| 00:28:46 | PhoenixSpirit | silly question for Sennheiser, but just being curious :) |
| 00:28:47 | Kohlrabi | Um, I don't know... They are enough for me an dmy equipment, I think |
| 00:28:52 | Cassandra | amicon: How about texture support for cube? |
| 00:29:15 | Kohlrabi | They were about the same price as my soundcard, so... ;) |
| 00:29:29 | PhoenixSpirit | I almost bought the Senn EH350's instead of HD202's....but they would have cost about $50 more |
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| 00:29:39 | Kohlrabi | and i just have a compact (?) stereo |
| 00:29:43 | Kohlrabi | All-in-One |
| 00:29:43 | PhoenixSpirit | of course, quality is so better as well |
| 00:29:45 | Mikachu | it totally makes music stop though |
| 00:29:48 | dpassen1 | The only pair of Senns I have are the PX100. |
| 00:30:19 | PhoenixSpirit | dpassen1 : I tried them as well...but somehow I finally left them out of question |
| 00:30:27 | Kohlrabi | I got mine in a sale |
| 00:30:28 | PhoenixSpirit | so did the PX200 |
| 00:30:33 | Kohlrabi | 30-40% reduced price ;) |
| 00:30:35 | dpassen1 | I prefer my Koss KSC-35s to the PX100s. |
| 00:30:36 | IcyStorM | Mikachu what is that patch for? |
| 00:30:38 | PhoenixSpirit | nice :) |
| 00:30:39 | markun | dpassen1: the crossfeed lowers the volume because it's not very well implemented (by me :) |
| 00:30:54 | Mikachu | IcyStorM: the name doesn't make it obvious? |
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| 00:30:58 | Cassandra | Wow. Zooming out a long way really messes up mandelbrot on the Nano. |
| 00:31:04 | PhoenixSpirit | dpassen1 : do the KSC-35s let in lots of outside noise ? |
| 00:31:05 | needleboy | JdGordon |
| 00:31:08 | needleboy | you here? |
| 00:31:10 | JdGordon | hey |
| 00:31:16 | dpassen1 | PhoenixSpirit: Yes, they're quite open. |
| 00:31:16 | IcyStorM | fire color ? |
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| 00:31:31 | IcyStorM | How do I install the patch? |
| 00:31:36 | dpassen1 | markun: I had a feeling (that it was an implementation thing, not that it was you) |
| 00:31:46 | needleboy | i don't have any menus |
| 00:31:48 | Kyle_ | can the SDL sim run on a cygwin/WindowsXP environment? |
| 00:31:54 | PhoenixSpirit | dpassen1 : I see...but I like this neckband style...are they comfortable, for example, longer cycling ? |
| 00:31:57 | JdGordon | u sure?? or u just cant fine them? |
| 00:32:06 | JdGordon | menu > general > display > lcd > bottom 3 menus |
| 00:32:06 | dpassen1 | 35s aren't neckband |
| 00:32:08 | needleboy | general > display > lcd |
| 00:32:16 | needleboy | last line is clear backdrop |
| 00:32:19 | dpassen1 | Its two clip on earphones with a Y style wire. |
| 00:32:26 | JdGordon | hmm.. ok, lemme checkt he patch |
| 00:32:36 | needleboy | compiling again to check |
| 00:32:39 | PhoenixSpirit | dpassen1 : oh, okay...I think I have mixed them with the 55's :) |
| 00:32:59 | Kohlrabi | Y-Style > Neck-Style ;) |
| 00:33:01 | PhoenixSpirit | dpassen1 : are they "bass-centric" or kind of neutral ? |
| 00:33:15 | JdGordon | needleboy: they are definalty in the patch.. so it should work... |
| 00:33:27 | JdGordon | the text isnt translated.. which maybe is the problem? |
| 00:33:33 | dpassen1 | bass-centric |
| 00:33:37 | needleboy | nope, i'm on english |
| 00:33:54 | dpassen1 | They're more 'fun' than accurate. Hard to explain |
| 00:34:17 | PhoenixSpirit | I had a Koss KTX Pro once, with titanium elements and thought I had a subwoofer in my head... |
| 00:34:45 | PhoenixSpirit | so the 35's may be just similar in sound, because they have those elements too |
| 00:35:16 | dpassen1 | Yes, similar. Almost identical drivers |
| 00:35:27 | dpassen1 | The KTX Pro has the same driver as the KSC-75 |
| 00:35:41 | midkay | Mikachu, whoa, that's pretty awesome :D |
| 00:35:43 | dpassen1 | The only difference, I believe, is the Titanium |
| 00:35:47 | Kyle_ | I cant compile things under OSX can I? |
| 00:35:48 | PhoenixSpirit | yes |
| 00:35:53 | Mikachu | midkay: yeah, it sort of looks weird if you scroll left a bit |
| 00:36:03 | Mikachu | midkay: but i think the original bw one was also strange |
| 00:36:23 | PhoenixSpirit | markun : did you implement the crossfeed feature in rockbox ? |
| 00:36:27 | midkay | Mikachu, yeah, it turns all white.. |
| 00:36:54 | DrumRBoy320 | ...i deletd a director of GB roms that was about 4 gigs with rockbox, and its been going for at least 2 minutes... was that a bad decision? |
| 00:37:02 | Mikachu | you'll notice i changed the default mult value, the old one was all white |
| 00:37:04 | JdGordon | needleboy: i just recompiled it here on the target and it works fine.. ? |
| 00:37:08 | Mikachu | i have no idea how the algo works :) |
| 00:37:24 | midkay | Mikachu, haha.. whatever works ;) very cool |
| 00:37:31 | JdGordon | did the patch actually merge all the files? maybe sttings_men.c was rejected? |
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| 00:37:39 | Mikachu | midkay: did you try plasma too? |
| 00:37:49 | midkay | no, not yet... |
| 00:38:00 | midkay | surely one of the dailies has got it? |
| 00:38:06 | needleboy | jdgordon: recompiling here |
| 00:38:11 | midkay | i don't want to have to update source and recompile.. |
| 00:38:29 | PhoenixSpirit | will the iriverport status page be updated soon ? :) |
| 00:38:30 | midkay | yeah, i'll try it now.. |
| 00:40:00 | midkay | very cool, considerably faster.. |
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| 00:40:42 | Mikachu | midkay: yeah it should be in the dailies |
| 00:41:09 | Kyle_ | Can you compile RB under OSX? |
| 00:41:47 | midkay | Mikachu, well, in a bleeding edge, i think it's too recent to be in a daily yet (not sure when they're built though.) |
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| 00:43:05 | Cassandra | Plasma looks good on the Nano, but a bit too regular. |
| 00:43:31 | BHSPitMonkey | JdGordon: get it printed? |
| 00:43:34 | midkay | fire looks awesome.. |
| 00:43:36 | Cassandra | Kyle_, probably, but none of the core developers use Macs so you'd be on your own building the cross-compiler etc. |
| 00:43:42 | JdGordon | not yet, today hopefully |
| 00:43:50 | BHSPitMonkey | midkay: you damn pyro. |
| 00:44:01 | JdGordon | BHSPitLappy: my mate works at 5am so i couldnt do it last jnight |
| 00:44:02 | midkay | BHSPitMonkey, you damn.. anti-pyro. |
| 00:44:09 | BHSPitMonkey | midkay: waaaaahh |
| 00:44:19 | midkay | BHSPitMonkey, ... yeah.. |
| 00:44:22 | Cassandra | Wow - turn plasma up really high and it makes your iPod look like it has a broken LCD. ;) |
| 00:44:27 | BHSPitMonkey | lol |
| 00:44:28 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah |
| 00:44:46 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Kyle_ |
| 00:44:46 | Kyle_ | Cassandra: thats fine if theres a wiki page that can show me how to do that? |
| 00:45:09 | JdGordon | Kyle_: just follow the linux instructions... |
| 00:45:48 | Cassandra | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 00:45:56 | Cassandra | Try the Linux instructions. |
| 00:46:04 | Kyle_ | aha ok |
| 00:46:07 | Cassandra | You'll need to install gcc for Mac first, obviously. |
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| 00:48:51 | PhoenixSpirit | has anyone experienced with the parametric EQ settings ? |
| 00:49:03 | PhoenixSpirit | for example, vocal removal and such.... |
| 00:50:43 | PhoenixSpirit | still iHP-120 |
| 00:50:47 | Kohlrabi | want to sing along? :D |
| 00:50:57 | Kohlrabi | karaoke |
| 00:50:59 | Kohlrabi | um |
| 00:51:00 | PhoenixSpirit | no, just being curious :) |
| 00:51:28 | Kohlrabi | I never had much success with such stuff... |
| 00:51:39 | Kyle_ | theres vocal removal? |
| 00:51:47 | PhoenixSpirit | with the absence of the vocals, you can hear the instruments more...by the way, I'm not an audiophile :) |
| 00:52:16 | PhoenixSpirit | well, I thought I just might try experiencing with cutting out certain frequency levels |
| 00:52:45 | PhoenixSpirit | for example, the human vocal range...but it didn't give me much success so far.... |
| 00:53:17 | PhoenixSpirit | but others may had successful experiences, who knows |
| 00:54:06 | PhoenixSpirit | also, I don't want to damage my h120's internal amp by setting wrong frequencies |
| 00:55:29 | Kohlrabi | I tried 'extracting' bass some way back with f2k/winamp, but success was not soo good ;) |
| 00:55:42 | PhoenixSpirit | :) |
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| 00:55:51 | PhoenixSpirit | not too easy, sure... |
| 00:56:13 | | Part Kyle_ |
| 00:56:25 | PhoenixSpirit | from the daily build changelog : Slight optimisation for 1bit and 2bit (vp) LCD drivers. |
| 00:56:45 | PhoenixSpirit | did anyone notice that ? :) h1xx series |
| 00:57:20 | Kohlrabi | what got improved? |
| 00:57:22 | Kohlrabi | ;) |
| 00:57:33 | Kohlrabi | does it affect remote |
| 00:57:37 | Kohlrabi | ;) |
| 00:57:53 | Kohlrabi | Since I don't look at the main unit... ;) |
| 00:58:32 | PhoenixSpirit | same for me...but don't know, didn't try it yet |
| 00:58:50 | PhoenixSpirit | I'm at work now, so just have to wait a little before trying :) |
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| 01:00:45 | PhoenixSpirit | but rockbox is working very good on the h120 now....the only problem I currently have is not being able to switch back to the wps/menu screen after entering bookmarks/recording/playlist naming screen with the remote |
| 01:01:26 | PhoenixSpirit | I mean, I can switch back by pressing stop on the main unit, but not on the remote...I hope there'll be some workaround to this :) |
| 01:01:50 | BHSPitLappy | JdGordon: ah, didn't realize you were down under :P |
| 01:02:05 | JdGordon | :) |
| 01:02:05 | BHSPitLappy | in that case, that's -the- longest-range VNC I've ever done |
| 01:02:23 | JdGordon | no longer than this irc msg |
| 01:02:33 | JdGordon | in fact its probably shorter// |
| 01:02:39 | BHSPitLappy | this is going through the network |
| 01:03:54 | BHSPitLappy | :P |
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| 01:08:08 | midkay | anybody here know how/want to play mafia (aka werewolf) on irc?.. |
| 01:08:42 | Kohlrabi | what is that? :D |
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| 01:09:03 | midkay | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(game) is the rules.. |
| 01:09:11 | midkay | not very hard to understand :) |
| 01:09:44 | JdGordon | if thats that idiot card game then hell no |
| 01:09:48 | midkay | anybody who wants to join (only if you're going to play) - server: irc.quakenet.org - channel: #status.mafia |
| 01:09:49 | JdGordon | stupidest fucking game ever |
| 01:09:51 | midkay | card game? haha? |
| 01:10:10 | Kohlrabi | Players make themselves comfortable in a space such that every player can see every other player. |
| 01:10:12 | Kohlrabi | well |
| 01:10:14 | JdGordon | sit around the table and guess who is the murderer... we use cards for some reason |
| 01:10:17 | Kohlrabi | How do you achive THAT? :D |
| 01:10:22 | midkay | JdGordon, yes, that's it. |
| 01:10:37 | midkay | Kohlrabi, it's a bit different on IRC.. instead of whispering you just PM :) |
| 01:11:11 | JdGordon | ye, stupidest game ever :D |
| 01:11:27 | midkay | JdGordon, yeah, go play your.. your.... cool games. !! |
| 01:11:27 | midkay | :) |
| 01:12:47 | Kohlrabi | hmm |
| 01:12:50 | Kohlrabi | sounds fun |
| 01:12:56 | Kohlrabi | though it's a bit late ;) |
| 01:13:04 | Kohlrabi | at least here ;) |
| 01:13:05 | midkay | Kohlrabi, you can give it a try if you want, pretty simple to catch on to :) |
| 01:13:12 | midkay | bah, whaddaloser!! ;) |
| 01:13:21 | Kohlrabi | :D |
| 01:13:25 | midkay | we need one or two more players to start.. |
| 01:13:40 | Kohlrabi | Well, are you playing adding 'special characters'? |
| 01:13:50 | midkay | no, just.. standard. simple. |
| 01:14:08 | midkay | someone dies, vote for whoever... repeat until either the guy is caught or everybody's dead.. rinse and repeat. :) |
| 01:14:13 | Kohlrabi | umm |
| 01:14:25 | Kohlrabi | well, maybe some other time :) |
| 01:14:31 | midkay | this LOSER! :) |
| 01:14:32 | Kohlrabi | hf though :) |
| 01:14:35 | Kohlrabi | :(! |
| 01:14:42 | midkay | haha. :D! |
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| 01:15:01 | Kohlrabi | So why don't you kill me? |
| 01:15:13 | midkay | maybe i would if you came and played, you bastard.. |
| 01:15:43 | Kohlrabi | :) |
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| 01:21:32 | JdGordon | can rb play mpc? |
| 01:22:37 | Kohlrabi | yep |
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| 01:23:28 | Kohlrabi | 'Playback in Rockbox works realtime, but needs a little more work to be as fast as other codecs. Seeking has been disabled because it is unusably slow thanks to poor seeking support in the format itself.' |
| 01:23:48 | JdGordon | ok, thanx |
| 01:24:13 | Kohlrabi | realtime means that it can decode 1 sec. of music as in 1sec. or faster |
| 01:24:24 | Kohlrabi | -as |
| 01:25:59 | PhoenixSpirit | will ff/rew with sound be possible some time ? |
| 01:26:05 | PhoenixSpirit | as in original iriver fw |
| 01:26:21 | golf7 | is it a bug that ogg at very high bitrates will skip every like 7-8 seconds on the h300 |
| 01:26:32 | golf7 | cause i threw some oggs on there, cause i dont normally use oggs |
| 01:26:44 | golf7 | but i somehow aquired some, and they were high bitrate, and they skipped |
| 01:26:56 | midkay | golf7, do you have EQ on? |
| 01:27:34 | muesli__ | afaik many reported skips in oggs |
| 01:27:34 | golf7 | i did, but i cut it off and it still skipped |
| 01:27:38 | Kohlrabi | high bitrate as in q10? |
| 01:27:41 | golf7 | i guess |
| 01:27:54 | golf7 | they were like high as hell, i have since converted to APS mp3 |
| 01:27:54 | Kohlrabi | hmm, I'll try now |
| 01:28:10 | golf7 | to lower filesize |
| 01:28:19 | golf7 | and samw quality ( i think ) |
| 01:28:22 | golf7 | not much of an ogg fan |
| 01:28:54 | Kohlrabi | :) |
| 01:28:56 | PhoenixSpirit | at least ogg is free format |
| 01:29:06 | Kohlrabi | that's the spirit :) |
| 01:29:06 | PhoenixSpirit | M$ can go and f*ck its WMAs |
| 01:29:37 | golf7 | yep |
| 01:29:45 | golf7 | ogg and mp3 is the way to go |
| 01:29:47 | Kohlrabi | golf7: I have a H120, though |
| 01:29:54 | Kohlrabi | not skipping so far |
| 01:29:56 | golf7 | and FLAC for lossless |
| 01:29:57 | Kohlrabi | mp3? |
| 01:30:10 | golf7 | aac and wma can kiss my ass |
| 01:30:12 | PhoenixSpirit | H120 here as well...no problems with OGG so far |
| 01:30:14 | Kohlrabi | I'd rather use mpc than mp3 |
| 01:30:24 | Kohlrabi | but ogg is perfect right now |
| 01:30:26 | PhoenixSpirit | never tried MPC...is it good ? |
| 01:30:32 | PhoenixSpirit | file size/quality ? |
| 01:30:34 | golf7 | yeah never tried some mpc's |
| 01:30:37 | Kohlrabi | I don't use it myself |
| 01:30:51 | Kohlrabi | but...I got 'ahold' of some mpc music |
| 01:30:58 | Kohlrabi | seems fine |
| 01:31:03 | PhoenixSpirit | i c |
| 01:31:09 | Kohlrabi | ogg@q10 working here |
| 01:31:11 | PhoenixSpirit | what's the casual file size of it ? |
| 01:31:15 | PhoenixSpirit | mpc |
| 01:31:17 | Kohlrabi | and q10 is maximum |
| 01:31:19 | Kohlrabi | I think |
| 01:31:21 | golf7 | maybe its just the h300 and maybe just that build |
| 01:31:29 | golf7 | and it may have been higher q |
| 01:31:34 | Kohlrabi | depends on quality setting PhoenixSpirit |
| 01:31:43 | Kohlrabi | But I don't care much about filesize anyway |
| 01:31:51 | Kohlrabi | it's ~the same for lossy format |
| 01:32:00 | golf7 | i ahve a 60 gig hdd in my h340, and its only got about 7 gigs free |
| 01:32:05 | golf7 | and loading more shit on it everyday |
| 01:32:10 | Kohlrabi | hmm, ok :) |
| 01:32:26 | PhoenixSpirit | i have 20, but it was fine to this day |
| 01:32:44 | PhoenixSpirit | not loading more on it often, though |
| 01:33:04 | PhoenixSpirit | is it possible to upgrade the h120 HDD for a bigger one ? |
| 01:33:12 | Kohlrabi | i think so, yes |
| 01:33:27 | Kohlrabi | I think rb-website has something about that |
| 01:33:41 | Kohlrabi | look on the hardware-specs-page |
| 01:33:41 | PhoenixSpirit | thanks, I'll check after it |
| 01:35:52 | golf7 | yeah it is |
| 01:35:57 | golf7 | same hdd as the h340 |
| 01:36:00 | golf7 | i mean h320 |
| 01:36:04 | golf7 | you can only get it to 30 gigs |
| 01:36:11 | Kohlrabi | oh? |
| 01:36:22 | Kohlrabi | controller limits it? |
| 01:36:23 | golf7 | cause its single platter, the 120 is |
| 01:36:30 | golf7 | the 40 gig is double platter |
| 01:36:34 | golf7 | not enough physical room |
| 01:36:34 | Kohlrabi | ? |
| 01:36:36 | Kohlrabi | oh |
| 01:36:38 | Kohlrabi | I see |
| 01:36:45 | golf7 | unless you drop the paddin and shit |
| 01:36:47 | golf7 | check |
| 01:36:51 | golf7 | www.misticriver.org |
| 01:36:54 | Kohlrabi | well, padding is good ;) |
| 01:36:55 | golf7 | it has some nice pics ans stuff |
| 01:37:11 | muesli__ | PhoenixSpirit sure, u can |
| 01:37:27 | muesli__ | ive upgraded my h320 to an h330 |
| 01:38:10 | muesli__ | just use a single platter hdd which can identified by its name including gaL |
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| 01:38:47 | muesli__ | http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=810000000007000000010000659800000001/810000000B0C000000010000659C000026BD |
| 01:39:00 | Kohlrabi | golf7: just heard from a friend taht you actually can push vorbis beyond q10 |
| 01:39:10 | Kohlrabi | But that makes no sense, anyways :o |
| 01:39:48 | saratoga | Can someone help me with an error message I get from patch? |
| 01:40:28 | PhoenixSpirit | only size matters ? can I use HDD from any manufacturer ? |
| 01:40:52 | muesli__ | nope, it MUST be toshiba |
| 01:41:12 | muesli__ | btw size always matters ;) |
| 01:41:22 | muesli__ | ask Cassandra ;) |
| 01:41:24 | Kohlrabi | :) |
| 01:41:53 | PhoenixSpirit | sure :) |
| 01:41:56 | PhoenixSpirit | *Toshiba defines a megabyte (MB) as 1,000,000 bytes and a gigabyte (GB) as 1,000,000,000 bytes. |
| 01:41:59 | Kohlrabi | It's not the size of the hammer that counts, it's how you wield it! |
| 01:42:09 | Kohlrabi | yeah, thats common for HD |
| 01:42:12 | Kohlrabi | HDs* |
| 01:42:26 | PhoenixSpirit | biggest marketing trick in IT :S |
| 01:42:52 | PhoenixSpirit | when you buy an 160 GB HDD, you only get 147 GB usable space |
| 01:42:57 | Kohlrabi | yep |
| 01:43:04 | Jungti1234 | How about it? - http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/2/23/87/cube_U10.jpg |
| 01:43:10 | PhoenixSpirit | but why ? :) |
| 01:43:22 | dpassen1 | 160 * 10^9 / 2^30 |
| 01:44:33 | Kohlrabi | use GB and GiB to show which one you mean, PhoenixSpirit |
| 01:44:41 | Kohlrabi | I don't know which is for which, though ;) |
| 01:45:05 | dpassen1 | GB is 10^9, GiB is 2^30 |
| 01:45:09 | moozooh | GiB is 1024 |
| 01:45:14 | moozooh | yeah |
| 01:47:28 | PhoenixSpirit | another topic...is rockbox written in C++ ? |
| 01:48:00 | ashridah | no, C |
| 01:48:11 | ashridah | and some assembly |
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| 01:51:34 | golf7 | so regular C |
| 01:51:37 | golf7 | and some ASM |
| 01:51:49 | pyro2 | What is ISD300 on the H3x0 series? |
| 01:52:02 | golf7 | not sure |
| 01:52:10 | midkay | ASM mostly only for the low-level hardware stuff, afaik.. |
| 01:52:36 | ashridah | pyro: it's the usb-storage-on-a-chip controller from memory |
| 01:52:53 | ashridah | midkay: and any routines that they need to accelerate |
| 01:53:27 | midkay | ashridah, right.. seems to be mostly hardware-related though, i.e. grayscale blitting related to the LCD driver.. |
| 01:53:45 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:53:45 | * | ashridah nods |
| 01:54:05 | pyro2 | ashridah: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DataSheets Doesn't list the H3x0 series having this chip. Is this wrong? |
| 01:55:14 | amiconn | midkay: Not only; check the audio codecs |
| 01:55:40 | ashridah | pyro: it might have something else that also supports usb-otg or something |
| 01:55:46 | midkay | amiconn, .. audio codecs relating to the MAS or cpu... |
| 01:55:48 | ashridah | or it could just be wrong :) |
| 01:55:53 | midkay | = hardware-related. |
| 01:56:14 | midkay | i just mean in general it seems ASM is only used for speeding up stuff directly pertaining to the hardware.. LCD/cpu/buttons etc.. |
| 01:56:45 | ashridah | pyro: infact, it's got "Cypress CY7C68310" instead |
| 01:57:09 | amiconn | Yes. CY7C68310 is an ISD300 clone |
| 01:57:28 | amiconn | midkay: I mean the software codecs |
| 01:57:58 | midkay | amiconn, playing audio with software codecs is what i'd call directly related to the hardware.. |
| 01:58:29 | amiconn | Well, if you see it that way, everything is hardware related |
| 01:58:51 | midkay | yes, but not as directly as playing audio, i'd say.. |
| 01:59:29 | ashridah | i'd call decoding audio fairly generic, tbh. |
| 01:59:54 | midkay | i'd consider software codecs about as low-level as audio playback gets.. there are simpler functions for it, you can wrap it up in a nice little function, but the codec's the framework.. |
| 01:59:58 | ashridah | the part that pushes bits to the DAC is a different area, isn't it? |
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| 02:00:11 | midkay | ashridah, not if i understand correctly.. |
| 02:00:12 | amiconn | Well, asm is used whenever C isn't fast enough, the decision being either hard or soft |
| 02:00:50 | amiconn | midkay: On swcodec platforms the codecs and the actual audio playback are very different areas |
| 02:01:31 | midkay | amiconn, aha, in that case.. :) well, it makes sense to use asm anyways - you want it as fast as possible |
| 02:01:37 | amiconn | The codec just converts compressed audio to uncompressed, in memory |
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| 02:02:15 | amiconn | On coldfire (iriver) we have to use asm whenever we want to make use of the cpu's emac unit |
| 02:02:28 | lostlogic | or burst read/write to RAM |
| 02:02:48 | amiconn | (a unit for accelerated dsp-like operations) |
| 02:03:00 | amiconn | gcc doesn't know about emac so it won't use it |
| 02:03:32 | lostlogic | I really hope they are working on m68k-gcc, it seriously needs work. |
| 02:03:35 | | Quit slimx (Remote closed the connection) |
| 02:03:40 | amiconn | Even mandelbrot.rock uses asm for speed, and uses emac on coldfire :) |
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| 02:04:34 | qwm | anyone wanna play some werewolf? |
| 02:05:48 | midkay | qwm: stfu, i asked earlier. |
| 02:06:44 | qwm | you did? |
| 02:06:48 | qwm | excuse my ignorance. |
| 02:06:49 | qwm | ;P |
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| 02:11:40 | saratoga | does anyone know what bootloader the ipod 3g is supposed to use? |
| 02:11:50 | saratoga | can I just give it the 4g bootloader? |
| 02:12:00 | qwm | i have no fucking idea. |
| 02:12:00 | saratoga | i want to test slimx's new patch |
| 02:12:19 | qwm | BHSPitLappy has no fucking idea either, because he's a senseless moron. |
| 02:12:37 | lostlogic | amiconn: which is faster: memset16(0xFFFF) or memset(0xFF)? |
| 02:12:53 | amiconn | Should be equal for larger blocks |
| 02:13:03 | lostlogic | amiconn: cool |
| 02:13:05 | amiconn | The line loop is identical |
| 02:13:22 | qwm | is that so, amiconn |
| 02:13:25 | BHSPitLappy | haha |
| 02:13:26 | lostlogic | duh, you duplicate the source data into 4 registers then loop it |
| 02:14:17 | BHSPitLappy | qwm: pardon me, but who the hell are you? |
| 02:14:32 | qwm | BHSPitLappy: i'm your worst nightmare. |
| 02:14:36 | | Part pyro2 |
| 02:15:09 | BHSPitLappy | I -do- tend to fear stupid people in general |
| 02:15:37 | midkay | how is it possible to fear yourself? |
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| 02:23:19 | Shadowarrior13 | Oh, snap! |
| 02:23:26 | Shadowarrior13 | I JUST saw that insult! |
| 02:23:56 | midkay | haha. |
| 02:24:41 | qwm | BHSPitLappy: do you fear your mom? |
| 02:25:05 | BHSPitLappy | who wouldn't? |
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| 02:26:16 | BHSPitLappy | by the way, why'd that take 8 minutes? |
| 02:26:49 | JdGordon | yay, needleboy added my colour patch to h300 optimized :D |
| 02:27:14 | qwm | BHSPitLappy: there's more important things in my life than answering you. like enjoying potato chips and beating off. |
| 02:28:27 | BHSPitLappy | just because they're the only things in your life, doesn't make them important. |
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| 02:28:37 | BHSPitLappy | wait, isn't this channel about rockbox? :S |
| 02:28:54 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, no, of course not. |
| 02:29:08 | midkay | just because it's called #rockbox, doesn't make it about rockbox. |
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| 02:30:47 | qwm | this channel is about linus and his brainchilds. |
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| 02:34:48 | Jungti1234 | good.. nice JdGordon |
| 02:34:56 | Jungti1234 | :D |
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| 02:50:31 | kahm_2 | is there any plce where a simulator is already compiled and ready to go, or is that something i'm going to have to do myself? |
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| 02:53:17 | kkurbjun | Paul_The_Nerd: where was it in the doom code that you were having problems? |
| 02:53:22 | webguest34 | Hi |
| 02:54:18 | webguest34 | I really like the way Rockbox is progressing for the iPod Video |
| 02:55:43 | webguest34 | on the iPod Rockbox, which button is for "stop"? |
| 02:55:56 | midkay | hold play.. |
| 02:56:17 | webguest34 | ok thanks |
| 02:56:28 | webguest34 | well Plasma looks much better |
| 02:57:18 | kahm_2 | is there any plce where a simulator is already compiled and ready to go, or is that something i'm going to have to do myself? |
| 02:57:36 | webguest34 | Im just wondering if visualizations are possible on the iPod Video? Winamp style? |
| 02:57:37 | midkay | np |
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| 02:58:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: One second. It's been a while since I've looked at it. |
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| 02:59:10 | webguest34 | what I really want to do is make my own colourful wps |
| 02:59:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: It has to do with the changes you made to the lumpinfo_t struct. |
| 02:59:19 | midkay | kahm_2, i believe you have to do it yourself. |
| 02:59:25 | kkurbjun | Paul: If I remember correct the problem was in r_things, if that's the case this new code I am putting up soon should fix your problems |
| 02:59:29 | midkay | webguest34, probably.. |
| 02:59:35 | midkay | webguest34, feel free.. :) |
| 02:59:59 | kkurbjun | Paul: yes, but it was running into errors in r_things.c? or elsewhere? |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:03 | midkay | meaning doom should run again on the ipods? |
| 03:00:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Yes, approximately line 237 in r_things.c, which was if (*(int *)lumpinfo[l].name == intname) |
| 03:00:46 | kahm_2 | oh man, if doom ran on the ipod... |
| 03:00:53 | kkurbjun | Paul: yep, I have replaced that with updated/better code |
| 03:00:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Excellent |
| 03:01:13 | webguest34 | i always wondered what mandelbrot is for |
| 03:01:50 | kkurbjun | Paul: I think I also have all your changed in the code |
| 03:02:18 | midkay | webguest34, it's just a fractal design.. |
| 03:02:33 | webguest34 | ok |
| 03:03:12 | webguest34 | but viewing photos is so much easier on the Rockbox |
| 03:03:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Okay. Is it uploaded somewhere, or is it not ready yet? |
| 03:03:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest34: But you can zoom the mandelbrot to get subsections of it. It's generated. |
| 03:03:43 | webguest34 | ok |
| 03:03:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's fun for people who like math. :-P |
| 03:03:52 | webguest34 | What would be good is a thumbnail viewer for pictures |
| 03:04:12 | kkurbjun | Paul: I'm getting a new diff ready, I'll upload it in a second |
| 03:05:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Okay, diffed against the sources in doom.zip you'd posted before? |
| 03:05:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest34: If you wanted to code one of those, I'm sure it'd be greatly appreciated. |
| 03:05:37 | kkurbjun | no, I needed to make a new cvs diff because of some menu features I'm using now |
| 03:05:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 03:06:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll clean out my apps/plugins/doom folder then, and start from whatever you post. |
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| 03:10:24 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, this should fix doom on the ipods then? |
| 03:10:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: It's hard to say, honestly. Since it doesn't get past that error, there may be other ones lurking about. :) |
| 03:11:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: But it's kkurbjun's baby. All I've done is server as a tester. |
| 03:12:13 | kahm_2 | Im wondering what the true potential of the iPod is.. as far as photos, video, doom, recording, etc |
| 03:12:19 | kahm_2 | on the 4g specifically |
| 03:12:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm_2: Well, what are you curious about really? |
| 03:13:41 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha, alright :) |
| 03:14:29 | kahm_2 | im just wondering if that stuff will ever come to the ipod. |
| 03:14:45 | kahm_2 | right now i dont think any of those three things work on the 4g, but i hope one day they will |
| 03:16:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm_2: Well, photos work on the 4G right now. Better than in the iPod software even, since you can zoom them. |
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| 03:17:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm_2: As for Doom, in time it will be there. It's run on iPodLinux right now. Same with video, though not too much has been done for Rockbox Video, it's been done in iPod Linux. As for recording, if the iPod has a line in, eventually it too will likely be done, as several other Rockbox targets have quite nice recording functionality. Rockbox on iPod is quite young still. |
| 03:18:49 | kahm_2 | wow, since when have photos been workin? If i grab a bleeding edge right now that will make it work? |
| 03:19:48 | JdGordon | kahm_2: ess than a week? |
| 03:19:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm_2: Right now, it's only noninterleaved jpegs. |
| 03:19:54 | kkurbjun | Paul: it's up on sourceforge now |
| 03:20:05 | kkurbjun | I had to change the server I was hosting on |
| 03:20:47 | kkurbjun | Paul: one change in the make file that didn't get in from your changes was the -D__BIG_ENDIAN__ |
| 03:20:59 | kkurbjun | so make sure you remove that in the CFLAGS |
| 03:23:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Okay, gonna make it in a second then |
| 03:24:03 | kahm_2 | how is it that i'm suposed to open them? i click and nothing happens. |
| 03:24:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm_2: Just click select on them. Are you sure they are noninterleaved? |
| 03:24:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Also gotta change the plugin buffer size. |
| 03:24:41 | kkurbjun | oh yeah |
| 03:27:46 | kahm_2 | is interleived the same as 'progressive' |
| 03:27:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 03:28:12 | kahm_2 | so then we want standard as opposed to progressive? |
| 03:28:15 | kahm_2 | or we want the progressive |
| 03:28:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Standard |
| 03:30:11 | kahm_2 | i must me missing something, absolutley nothing happens when i select it |
| 03:30:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: It'll take me a minute, just ran make through and realized I forgot to change the makefile to include IPOD_NANO in the targets |
| 03:32:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm_2: Are they photo.jpg or photo.jpeg? |
| 03:33:34 | kahm_2 | jpg |
| 03:34:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, using the computer, browse into \.rockbox\viewers and see if there's a file called jpeg.rock there |
| 03:35:07 | kahm_2 | no there isnt |
| 03:35:13 | kahm_2 | that must be it. |
| 03:35:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | You copied over a new rockbox.ipod and a new .rockbox folder when you upgraded, right? |
| 03:36:05 | kahm_2 | yeah, i just looked in the bleeding edge zip i downloaded, its not in there either. |
| 03:36:18 | kahm_2 | it's not in the daily build as well |
| 03:36:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | You said you had a 4G, right? |
| 03:37:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or are you using a 4G-Grayscale? |
| 03:37:06 | kahm_2 | yeah |
| 03:37:09 | kahm_2 | grayscale |
| 03:37:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaaah |
| 03:37:12 | kahm_2 | Its in the ipod color one, though |
| 03:37:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | I thought you were using a 4G-Color |
| 03:37:18 | kahm_2 | Oh it dosent work on grayscale? |
| 03:37:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not yet |
| 03:37:24 | kahm_2 | oh mannn. |
| 03:37:28 | kahm_2 | sorry about that, hah. |
| 03:37:41 | kahm_2 | i'm sure it would suck anyway. |
| 03:37:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | It uses the Grayscale library, which allows 30+ shades of gray on 2-bit screens, and that hasn't been ported to grayscale ipods yet |
| 03:37:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | You'd be *really* suprised about how much it doesn't suck |
| 03:38:08 | kahm_2 | oh wow, i thought it would only be the 2 bits |
| 03:38:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nah, it cheats |
| 03:38:27 | kahm_2 | how the hell did they manage that one, i would that would be a limitation of the LCD, a pixel is either on or off |
| 03:38:31 | kahm_2 | but i guess thats not true? |
| 03:38:44 | midkay | flashing it so it appears to be gray.. |
| 03:38:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | It takes advantage of the slow fading of the pixels, if I understand. |
| 03:38:47 | midkay | very quickly |
| 03:38:52 | kahm_2 | ohh wow. |
| 03:38:55 | kahm_2 | thats smart. |
| 03:38:59 | kkurbjun | Paul: is it building? |
| 03:39:00 | midkay | at different speeds, yeah.. |
| 03:39:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Just got errors a second ago, in i_video.c |
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| 03:39:57 | kahm_2 | that's really amazing |
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| 03:40:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: You forgot to define BUTTON_WEAPON for ipods |
| 03:40:39 | kkurbjun | ahh |
| 03:41:01 | kahm_2 | are you guys building doom for iPod right now? |
| 03:42:14 | kkurbjun | kahm_2: hopefully |
| 03:42:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Okay, forgot I had to make the plugin size bigger than 0xF0000 for Nano. Building again |
| 03:42:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems that was the only error |
| 03:42:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | BUTTON_WEAPON changes weapons, right? |
| 03:43:04 | kkurbjun | yes |
| 03:43:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay |
| 03:43:24 | kkurbjun | Paul: does it compile much cleaner now for you? |
| 03:43:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | There were still warnings, I didn't scroll back to see how many |
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| 03:44:10 | kahm_2 | you guys are awesome, i really wish i knew more about this so i could get the simple things like battery status out of the way. |
| 03:44:51 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, tell us how it goes :D |
| 03:45:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Yeah, still warnings here and there but a lot less than before |
| 03:45:29 | kkurbjun | good |
| 03:46:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: I'm trying to figure out what the right plugin buffer size is for ipods, so I'm having to rebuild alot. Sorry. |
| 03:46:25 | kkurbjun | no problem |
| 03:48:53 | BHSPitLappy | Paul_The_Nerd: so you own a nano? |
| 03:48:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, 0x120000 seems to work for now |
| 03:48:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | BHSPitLappy: Yessir |
| 03:49:04 | BHSPitLappy | sweet |
| 03:49:56 | * | BHSPitLappy get to reap benefits! wooo! |
| 03:50:03 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 03:50:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Where do I need to put the wads exactly? It just told me i have no base wads |
| 03:51:10 | kkurbjun | "/games/doom |
| 03:51:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 03:52:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: Okay, got a data abort, but I'm not sure it compiled without the big endian thing, so lemme double check the change I made for that. |
| 03:55:51 | midkay | where may i change plugin RAM size? |
| 03:56:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | firmware/export/config-blah.h |
| 03:56:46 | midkay | thx |
| 03:57:25 | kkurbjun | paul: do you know where you got the data abort? |
| 03:57:42 | midkay | kkurbjun, can i use any wad file, and does it have to be named something specific? |
| 03:57:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Immediately after selecting start game, before any other output |
| 03:58:29 | kkurbjun | you need the shareware doom or a comercial version (ultimate, doom2, tnt, plutonia) |
| 03:58:32 | kkurbjun | hmm |
| 03:58:36 | kkurbjun | thats strange |
| 03:59:50 | kkurbjun | could be in Dhandle_ver |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:19 | kkurbjun | I dunno though. I'm not very familiar with this alignment stuff |
| 04:00:47 | kkurbjun | I know there's tags for gcc to give alignment hints, I just don't know where or how to use them for the arm |
| 04:01:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: It flashes maybe 2 or 3 lines before the error, and I can't read them quickly enough. One second, rebuilding to try to see |
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| 04:02:46 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 04:03:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's right when it loads the WAD file again |
| 04:03:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | With either doom or doom2.wad |
| 04:04:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | doom1 or doom2 rather |
| 04:05:33 | kkurbjun | I'm going to have to look at it later, I have to go take care of things. hopefully I'll get a chance to look at it later this week |
| 04:05:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay |
| 04:05:48 | kkurbjun | thanks for trying though |
| 04:05:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll see if I can figure out something too. At least maybe more specifically where |
| 04:06:00 | kkurbjun | that'd be great |
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| 04:10:25 | kkurbjun | paul: quick thought: it was getting furthur before in the wad loading. I moved char name[9]; to the bottom of the lumpinfo, if you move it back to the top it might at least get furthur in loading |
| 04:13:28 | Aditya | anyone here? |
| 04:13:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll try that next. |
| 04:14:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aditya: There are a few of us about, yes. |
| 04:14:07 | Aditya | cool |
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| 04:21:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: That doesn't change anything. |
| 04:22:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, the data abort address is slightly different, but not much at all |
| 04:23:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | And I have to go for a little while. I'll look into it and see if I can trace it later, but yeah it probably is still something to do with that struct. |
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| 04:26:50 | virtualball | hi again |
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| 04:50:25 | Jungti1234 | anyone? |
| 04:52:38 | midkay | me! |
| 04:58:15 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 04:58:18 | Jungti1234 | I have question |
| 04:58:49 | midkay | shoot |
| 04:59:10 | Jungti1234 | H300 is linux system? |
| 04:59:23 | midkay | what? |
| 04:59:34 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 04:59:45 | Jungti1234 | Does it use GPL? |
| 04:59:55 | midkay | the default firmware? |
| 04:59:59 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:02 | midkay | no |
| 05:00:09 | Jungti1234 | than? |
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| 05:00:52 | ashridah | Jungti1234: the H3xx firmware iriver provide is a proprietary system they developed themselves, it's not based on linux |
| 05:01:37 | ashridah | (well, at least, mostly developed themselves, there may well be contributions from other commerical sources) |
| 05:01:39 | Jungti1234 | Then, rockbox? |
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| 05:02:06 | midkay | gpl, yes.. |
| 05:02:08 | ashridah | rockbox is not based on linux either, but it IS licensed under the GPL. |
| 05:03:51 | Jungti1234 | um... linux is base of iriver pmp? |
| 05:05:00 | Jungti1234 | or is it licensed under the GPL? |
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| 05:10:37 | midkay | Jungti1234, i'm not sure, i don't think so. |
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| 05:14:31 | Jungti1234 | hm? |
| 05:14:53 | midkay | i don't believe iriver uses linux in any of it's products. |
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| 05:15:14 | midkay | nor is any of the firmware is GP, as far as i know |
| 05:15:27 | Jungti1234 | They opened source of PMP firmware. |
| 05:15:50 | Jungti1234 | But, H300 didn't. |
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| 05:16:28 | infamis | I'm trying to build the sim...and I get a sdl-config not found. is this something I need to download...the wiki doesn't mention anything about it on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling#Building_the_Simulator |
| 05:16:44 | infamis | cygwin |
| 05:16:59 | Jungti1234 | I'm not certain, PMP is GPL. |
| 05:17:17 | midkay | infamis, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 05:17:21 | midkay | should help.. |
| 05:17:45 | Jungti1234 | but I don't know well H300. |
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| 05:18:02 | golf7 | h300 isnt linux based |
| 05:18:07 | midkay | h300 is definitely not open source, nor linux based. |
| 05:18:08 | golf7 | i am 99.99999% sure |
| 05:18:19 | Jungti1234 | hahahha.. |
| 05:18:33 | Jungti1234 | Then, 0.00001%? |
| 05:18:40 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
| 05:19:50 | infamis | midkay: I've installed CygWin already, but no where do I see sdl mentioned |
| 05:20:03 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 05:20:06 | midkay | second to last line of the document. |
| 05:20:09 | midkay | you need to install sdl. |
| 05:20:14 | Jungti1234 | add http://www.rockbox.org/cygwin |
| 05:20:25 | infamis | http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/207/rb8nh.gif |
| 05:20:26 | midkay | from the rockbox.org/cygwin mirror, yes.. |
| 05:20:38 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 05:20:48 | midkay | infamis, yes... you need sdl installed. |
| 05:21:13 | Jungti1234 | infamis, I wandered like you. |
| 05:21:20 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 05:22:09 | infamis | where is sdl..."sdl simulator download" on google brings a lot of results |
| 05:23:12 | midkay | the second to last line of the cygwindevelopment page i just linked to. |
| 05:23:35 | infamis | alright, I'm stupid; I just figured out sdl is one of the packages selected after the rockbox.org/cygwin url |
| 05:23:41 | infamis | ....still hadn't finished downloading :) |
| 05:23:42 | midkay | exactly. :) |
| 05:24:24 | virtualball | i have a question about 5G rockbox, is rockboy supposedd to be messed-up? |
| 05:24:32 | midkay | virtualball, it looks corrupted? |
| 05:24:33 | infamis | http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/192/rb22qk.gif |
| 05:24:41 | midkay | you need to go into the settings and toggle fullscreen off. |
| 05:24:57 | midkay | infamis, you nutcase, you're trying to compile while it downloads? :) |
| 05:24:58 | Jungti1234 | good.. |
| 05:25:36 | infamis | basically, cause the guide said you don't need crosscompile target stuff for the simulator build |
| 05:25:49 | infamis | but it didn't mention that sdl is part of the cross compile packages |
| 05:25:56 | infamis | or the 2nd download step |
| 05:26:16 | midkay | ah |
| 05:26:48 | infamis | I'm just eager to try this stuff out :) |
| 05:27:54 | infamis | has rockbox ever thought of porting to car receivers? |
| 05:28:23 | infamis | even though rockbox isn't a person :) |
| 05:28:34 | midkay | infamis, how exactly? :) |
| 05:29:30 | infamis | like if I have a Pioneer/alpine radio in my car console, throwing rockbox on that..using an MP3CD or DVD-MP3 (iso/joliet) as it's source for files |
| 05:30:01 | midkay | you can easily put files on a cd, but how is the reciever going to read them and know what to do with them? |
| 05:30:41 | infamis | that's where rockbox comes in :) |
| 05:31:09 | * | midkay stares blankly :) |
| 05:31:36 | infamis | isn't it the same as being "just another target" like iAudio x5, ipod, ALPINE-9861... |
| 05:32:14 | midkay | well, you can't just put files on a CD and say to the reciever, "Install rockbox please". :) |
| 05:32:20 | JdGordon | any metal heads here??? im looking for illdisposed cds.. ? |
| 05:33:16 | infamis | right, you'd have to flash the ROM like any other target... |
| 05:35:11 | infamis | ..I'm just waiting for this to finish downloading :) nothing else to do... |
| 05:38:43 | midkay | infamis, haha :) |
| 05:38:59 | Shadowarrior13 | . |
| 05:41:26 | JdGordon | bloody hell doom is nice int he h3000 :D |
| 05:41:33 | JdGordon | only finnaly loaded it :p |
| 05:42:00 | midkay | damn, wish it ran on the ipods.. |
| 05:42:58 | JdGordon | cept there is no strafe which makes it hard.. |
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| 05:51:48 | infamis | is there something you have to do to cygwin after installation? |
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| 05:53:20 | JdGordon | kkurbjun: u around? |
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| 06:06:17 | infamis | no rule to make target ui-x5.bmp error during sim compile...how to fix? |
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| 06:08:09 | fairway | hi all |
| 06:08:17 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 06:08:28 | fairway | did anyone change the rockbox delay behaviour on ipod photo? |
| 06:08:46 | fairway | if you scroll fast the music gets interrupted |
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| 06:11:34 | ashridah | infamis: which platform are you building the simulator for? |
| 06:12:48 | ashridah | infamis: btw, with the car audio device, you may find that it's using a hardware decoder. it's possible to add stuff, but expensive to pull apart a car stereo, and lets not forget the security things those often have now |
| 06:13:26 | infamis | ah, ok....it's for x5 |
| 06:13:55 | infamis | ui-x5.bmp doesn't exist anywhere in the daily build rockbox-daily-20060222 |
| 06:15:01 | ashridah | hrm. must be missing from one of the files |
| 06:15:10 | ashridah | poke Bagder |
| 06:15:16 | ashridah | you might need to use CVS to check it out instead |
| 06:16:05 | ashridah | (until the problem is fixed, i mean) |
| 06:17:38 | infamis | ok..the cvs structure is way diffferent than the daily build...all the ui-*.bmps are in uisim/win32 on the build & in uisim/sdl for cvs |
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| 06:18:27 | infamis | put ui-x5.bmp in sdl and it seems to be compiling |
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| 06:24:41 | midkay_ | kkurbjun, are you still around? |
| 06:35:21 | infamis | who is kkurbjun... |
| 06:36:34 | midkay_ | a person in this channel... |
| 06:36:59 | infamis | I've seen 2 requests for him though... |
| 06:37:08 | infamis | okay build error for sdl (x5): |
| 06:37:24 | infamis | BMP2RB bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.bmp |
| 06:37:29 | infamis | make[4]: *** [/usr/src/rbsrc/rockbox-daily-20060222/sim/apps/plugins/bitmaps/nat |
| 06:37:38 | infamis | ive/bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.c] Error 1 |
| 06:37:43 | infamis | make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 06:37:46 | infamis | make[2]: *** [build-bitmaps] Error 2 |
| 06:37:51 | infamis | make[1]: *** [rocks] Error 2 |
| 06:37:54 | infamis | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 06:38:10 | infamis | what is this? |
| 06:38:58 | midkay_ | he's making doom run... |
| 06:39:10 | midkay_ | and. hm. |
| 06:39:16 | midkay_ | you installed everything that was asked for? |
| 06:39:42 | infamis | yup...afaik...any package in particular that this may be trying to reference? |
| 06:40:15 | midkay_ | well, bmp2rb should have been compiled... |
| 06:40:38 | midkay_ | what were a few lines before that, can you paste? |
| 06:40:42 | infamis | bejeweled.... .c has this text in it: "error - Can't read image" |
| 06:41:05 | infamis | CC highscore.c |
| 06:41:08 | infamis | CC xlcd.c |
| 06:41:11 | infamis | AR+RANLIB /usr/src/rbsrc/rockbox-daily-20060222/sim/libplugin.a |
| 06:41:13 | infamis | MAKE in plugins/bitmaps/native |
| 06:41:17 | infamis | BMP2RB bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.bmp |
| 06:41:19 | infamis | then the error |
| 06:42:03 | infamis | I have ui-x5.bmp in both uisim/sdl & uisim/win32 |
| 06:42:38 | midkay_ | i'd suggest making a new build folder and building for another target, say, the archos recorder, a normal build. |
| 06:42:47 | midkay_ | maybe the sim build neglects to compile bmp2rb. |
| 06:42:55 | midkay_ | i'd build for a target and then try simbuilding again. |
| 06:43:42 | infamis | ok, I'll try target 1: archos player/studio |
| 06:43:55 | midkay_ | sure |
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| 06:52:21 | infamis | hmm...I'll have to try tomorrow...gotta go to work; it's 12am & I was supposed to be there at 10:30pm! |
| 06:52:44 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 06:52:47 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 06:52:51 | midkay_ | ouch |
| 06:52:52 | midkay_ | laters |
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| 06:53:06 | infamis | see what rockbox does to ya! |
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| 06:59:25 | BHSPitLappy | JdGordon: so did you get over there |
| 06:59:34 | JdGordon | ..not yet |
| 06:59:46 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 06:59:59 | JdGordon | he must be working all day today or something.. hasnt come online yet |
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| 07:08:15 | aegray | linuxstb: here? |
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| 07:12:06 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 07:12:09 | Jungti1234 | anyone? |
| 07:12:13 | midkay_ | me! |
| 07:12:16 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 07:12:22 | JdGordon | me 3 |
| 07:12:26 | Jungti1234 | heh |
| 07:12:38 | Jungti1234 | I have another question |
| 07:12:42 | JdGordon | tough |
| 07:12:55 | midkay_ | too bad, maaan. |
| 07:12:59 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 07:14:57 | Jungti1234 | Iriver speaks that don't react in outside action if H300 turns off. (sorry, I don't speak well English.) |
| 07:14:58 | kahm | woa woa woa. keep it down in here! |
| 07:15:43 | midkay_ | i don't know what you mean.. |
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| 07:16:14 | Jungti1234 | okok I'm writing now. |
| 07:16:15 | kahm | I think he's trying to say something like 'the iriver says that it dosen't react to anything when it shuts off'..maybe? |
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| 07:16:56 | midkay_ | hm. |
| 07:17:25 | Jungti1234 | react = operate |
| 07:18:01 | midkay_ | so you mean when it's off it doesn't react to anything? |
| 07:18:16 | Jungti1234 | yes.. |
| 07:18:32 | Jungti1234 | For example, Alram function says that can't use in H300. |
| 07:18:33 | midkay_ | wwhat's your question then? :) |
| 07:18:47 | midkay_ | ah. ok.. |
| 07:18:49 | Jungti1234 | Iriver speaks so. |
| 07:19:10 | JdGordon | BHSPitLappy: im heading out to get it printed :D |
| 07:19:13 | BHSPitLappy | cool |
| 07:19:20 | Jungti1234 | By the way, H300 chipset supports it. |
| 07:19:29 | midkay_ | Jungti1234, you mean the voiced menus? |
| 07:19:36 | Jungti1234 | Alram |
| 07:19:41 | JdGordon | ill stop by my sisters later tonight and get a photo of it.. i doubt my fone will get a decent pic |
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| 07:20:04 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 07:20:11 | Jungti1234 | midkay_, you don't know alram? |
| 07:20:13 | BHSPitLappy | well aren't you just completely dependent :P |
| 07:20:39 | midkay_ | Jungti1234, if it's a misspelling of "alarm", yes :) |
| 07:20:53 | Jungti1234 | ah! |
| 07:20:57 | qwm | please, have my bananas. |
| 07:21:01 | Jungti1234 | sorry :) |
| 07:21:21 | qwm | BHSPitLappy: going to bed. i want you to tuck me in. |
| 07:21:27 | qwm | and i want a hug. |
| 07:21:28 | qwm | and a kiss. |
| 07:21:33 | qwm | and a blowjob. |
| 07:21:38 | Jungti1234 | oh? |
| 07:21:40 | BHSPitLappy | /ignore qwm!*@* ALL |
| 07:21:41 | BHSPitLappy | whoops |
| 07:21:44 | BHSPitLappy | too many slashes |
| 07:21:53 | BHSPitLappy | there, that's better |
| 07:22:18 | qwm | i love you too. night. |
| 07:22:23 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 07:22:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 07:23:17 | kahm | so, 1:30 in the morning chatting about rocketbox. |
| 07:23:24 | kahm | we're clearly the coolest people in the world. |
| 07:23:31 | kahm | and WHY DO I KEEP SAYING ROCKET |
| 07:24:49 | midkay_ | because you touch yourself at night. |
| 07:25:00 | kahm | NO |
| 07:25:02 | kahm | ......not at night |
| 07:25:08 | midkay_ | haha. whoa. |
| 07:25:11 | midkay_ | too much info, really. |
| 07:25:43 | Mikachu | maybe he's doing it now |
| 07:25:44 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 07:25:58 | midkay_ | yeah, where'd he go. :E |
| 07:26:02 | Jungti1234 | Can it support? |
| 07:26:24 | Jungti1234 | Does iriver lie? |
| 07:26:31 | midkay_ | Jungti1234, i'm not quite sure what you're asking.. |
| 07:26:54 | Jungti1234 | I have image. |
| 07:27:00 | midkay_ | alright.. |
| 07:28:06 | BHSPitLappy | Mikachu: we're talking about rockbox, I couldn't blame him. |
| 07:28:27 | midkay_ | hohohohoho.. |
| 07:28:29 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data15/2006/2/23/138/41.PNG |
| 07:28:55 | midkay_ | oh, iriver says alarm can't be supported? |
| 07:29:06 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 07:29:37 | midkay_ | um. i don't know the iriver hardware well, i'm not sure.. |
| 07:29:47 | Jungti1234 | We sayed it excessively much. |
| 07:30:02 | Jungti1234 | However, reply is just alike. |
| 07:30:21 | Jungti1234 | Iriver is answering one on all questions. |
| 07:30:34 | midkay_ | they might be right, i don't see why they would lie, they should understand the hardware well.. |
| 07:30:45 | midkay_ | but they could be wrong. |
| 07:30:51 | Mikachu | Jungti1234: are you using google translate or something? |
| 07:31:00 | Jungti1234 | yes |
| 07:31:13 | Mikachu | i thought i recognized the weird grammar :) |
| 07:31:18 | midkay_ | haha. |
| 07:31:21 | Jungti1234 | Google translation is bad. |
| 07:31:45 | Jungti1234 | I use other. |
| 07:31:46 | midkay_ | Jungti1234, what language are you translating from? |
| 07:31:55 | Jungti1234 | Korean |
| 07:31:59 | midkay_ | cool :) |
| 07:32:27 | Jungti1234 | English is hard |
| 07:33:23 | BHSPitLappy | yeah |
| 07:34:03 | Jungti1234 | I want correct answer. |
| 07:34:19 | BHSPitLappy | correct answer to what? |
| 07:34:22 | Jungti1234 | (I want inerrable answer.) |
| 07:34:41 | BHSPitLappy | ^^^^^^^^^^ I've never heard that word. |
| 07:34:45 | midkay_ | Jungti1234, i don't know the correct answer. |
| 07:35:05 | Jungti1234 | BHSPtiLappy: Alarm function is possible in H300? |
| 07:35:14 | BHSPitLappy | oh, I'm an iPod guy :) |
| 07:35:17 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
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| 07:50:44 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 07:50:45 | Jungti1234 | http://www.zepie.com/tt/index.php?pl=256 |
| 07:52:48 | Jungti1234 | another person got angry also by iriver lie. |
| 07:55:45 | kahm | how hard do you guys think it is to get the battery part working for the ipod? |
| 07:58:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm: On the relative scale, probably not too hard. The code exists in iPodLinux, it's just a matter of adapting it. |
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| 08:00:00 | kahm | its possible to get that running on an ipod alongside rocketbox right |
| 08:00:19 | kahm | rock*box |
| 08:00:23 | ScoTTie | you can have both installed at the same time |
| 08:00:56 | ScoTTie | seems someones already got some of the batt code in there |
| 08:01:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm: I don't mean running alongside. I mean that someone needs to look into the ipodlinux sources, find how they check the battery level, and just adapt their source code to compile into rockbox. |
| 08:02:10 | BHSPitLappy | kahm: you need to write a script that truncates the "et" |
| 08:02:38 | Mikachu | '/completion -auto rocketbox rockbox' in irssi |
| 08:02:43 | kahm | yeah, i understand that, i was just curious if it was possible to do both |
| 08:03:02 | kahm | hah, maybe i should just stop typing it over and over :( i'm learning a mistake |
| 08:03:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm: Yeah, rockbox and ipodlinux live side by side just fine. |
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| 08:04:38 | Zoide777 | hi guys |
| 08:04:42 | ScoTTie | haha |
| 08:04:43 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 08:04:55 | Jungti1234 | hm SRS is software? hardware? codec? |
| 08:04:59 | ScoTTie | /* The following command puts the iPod into a deep sleep. Warning from the good people of ipodlinux - never issue this command without setting CHGWAK or EXTONWAK if you ever want to be able to power on your iPod again. */ |
| 08:05:02 | Zoide777 | is mandelbrot supposed to work on the 4g grayscale? I've never managed to find it in the plugin list |
| 08:05:24 | BHSPitLappy | haha |
| 08:05:25 | BHSPitLappy | that sucks |
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| 08:05:34 | BHSPitLappy | ScoTTie: do it. |
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| 08:05:49 | BHSPitLappy | send it back to apple, as the very first 'bricked' ipod ever. |
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| 08:06:01 | ScoTTie | i think ill pass ;p |
| 08:06:19 | amiconn | Zoide777: Not yet. Someone needs to implement the grayscale lib for the greyscale iPods first |
| 08:06:29 | Zoide777 | amiconn: ah, ok |
| 08:07:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | BHSPitLappy: You can probably still reboot it with the hardware method. |
| 08:07:07 | amiconn | Same goes for some other plugins, e.g. jpeg viewer, plasma, fire |
| 08:07:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: SRS-wow is software. |
| 08:07:31 | Jungti1234 | than |
| 08:07:37 | Zoide777 | any updates on the scrollwheel? afaik the problem is that it's treated like a button, and it generates events at a crazy rate. but is there any other way to use it? |
| 08:08:02 | BHSPitLappy | Paul_The_Nerd: I don't think the warning would be so severe |
| 08:08:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: What kind of problem are you having with it? |
| 08:08:10 | ScoTTie | Zoide: what do you mean ? its fast ? |
| 08:08:19 | Jungti1234 | Paul_The_Nerd: Can H300 be upgraded by SRS WOW 2.0? |
| 08:08:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | BHSPitLappy: Yeah, but at the same time I can't imagine it sticking around if you say, unplugged the battery and waiting for a while. |
| 08:09:04 | Jungti1234 | Iriver speaks that it's impossible. |
| 08:09:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: If iRiver decides to upgrade their firmware with it, yes. SRS-WOW is patented, to Rockbox will probably never use it. |
| 08:09:34 | BHSPitLappy | Paul_The_Nerd: ae.gray says it's pretty harsh |
| 08:09:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | SRS-WOW 2.0 may be too complex though. I don't know any specifics about it. |
| 08:09:41 | Jungti1234 | ok :) thanks! |
| 08:09:58 | Zoide777 | ScoTTie: I mean, right now the clickwheel bogs down rockbox, right? e.g. the sound skips when scrolling |
| 08:10:31 | ScoTTie | no idea, ive only got a mini and sound doesnt seem to work at all atm. |
| 08:10:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | BHSPitLappy: *shrugs* Dunno personally. It just seems odd that if you forget to set something, it no longer catches input to wake no matter what. |
| 08:10:53 | ScoTTie | and the scroll wheel is way to sensetive :p |
| 08:11:22 | Zoide777 | ScoTTie: does acceleration work? e.g. for long playlists? |
| 08:11:49 | ScoTTie | no idea, i just added button support to the mini earlier today |
| 08:11:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: That's less the fault of the scrollwheel than the fact that playback uses almost all the resources available in many cases. |
| 08:11:58 | ScoTTie | id never used rockbox before then |
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| 08:13:06 | Zoide777 | Paul_The_Nerd: oh, i see. do you think this will continue until someone figures out how to use both cores? |
| 08:14:40 | kahm | Is there something i need to do to get rockbox and ipodlinux working at the same time? When i use the windows instlaler, it just puts that apple folder logo thing indicating bad firmware |
| 08:14:54 | ScoTTie | kahm: its on the wiki afaik |
| 08:15:02 | kahm | oh ok. |
| 08:15:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: Not necessarily. At the moment there's something strange about playback. With the cpu boosting, we can see that it may be doing too much somewhere. So there's probably some optimizations/changes that may affect this. |
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| 08:20:01 | amiconn | LinusN: (x5) Could you tell me which button is which? I can see 7 buttons and the hold switch in the sim bg image, but there are 8 buttons defined in button.h, even w/o the one that says 'doesn't exist' |
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| 08:20:38 | amiconn | Is Hold a button? |
| 08:20:56 | LinusN | the on and hold buttons are the same |
| 08:21:10 | LinusN | it slides up for ON and down for hold |
| 08:21:38 | amiconn | In button.h you have LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN, PLAY, REC, POWER and MENU |
| 08:21:52 | amiconn | I'm not sure about PLAY and MENU then |
| 08:22:08 | amiconn | ...and I wonder why you call it POWER instead of OFF |
| 08:22:33 | amiconn | OFF would be consistent with the ondio, where it actually is an on/off button as well |
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| 08:32:28 | midk | can anyone tell me which devices don't have an RTC? |
| 08:33:58 | midk | nm, found what i was looking for. |
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| 08:35:24 | LinusN | amiconn: i don't recall calling the buttons anything |
| 08:35:57 | LinusN | i haven't even ported the button driver |
| 08:37:04 | JdGordon | hey all.. any1 feel like commiting the colour patch? |
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| 08:38:10 | JdGordon | hey needleboy, im guessing u got the menu working? |
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| 08:39:37 | BHSPitLappy | JdGordon: your chooser? |
| 08:39:40 | midk | JdGordon, i'm about to try it :) |
| 08:40:01 | JdGordon | BHSPitLappy: guess what? i went to a friedns place to print it.. and his bloody printer wouldnt work :'( |
| 08:40:09 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 08:41:01 | LinusN | JdGordon: CR/LF in apps/SOURCES |
| 08:41:32 | JdGordon | :'( im SURE i had it on unix line endings... |
| 08:42:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there an easy way to fix that in files, if you're using cygwin? |
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| 08:42:47 | LinusN | i guess "tr" can fit it, but i don't remember how |
| 08:42:50 | LinusN | fix |
| 08:43:00 | LinusN | i usually do it within emacs |
| 08:43:40 | LinusN | i still think you should use the american spelling of color, to match the rest of the source |
| 08:44:43 | JdGordon | anything else? oh, why does it load black/black instead of the default the first time u upgrade? |
| 08:45:38 | LinusN | good question |
| 08:46:48 | LinusN | in the sim as well? |
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| 08:49:05 | JdGordon | ye |
| 08:49:41 | midk | JdGordon, your patch isn't compiling for ipod video, at least not for me.. |
| 08:50:10 | midk | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `<<<<<<<', needed by `/home/midk/rockbox-dev |
| 08:50:10 | midk | el/buildvid/apps/plugins/dep-plugins'. Stop. |
| 08:50:10 | midk | make[1]: *** [rocks] Error 2 |
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| 08:50:10 | midk | i'm not sure where this is coming from.. |
| 08:50:47 | LinusN | midk: cvs conflict in apps/SOURCES |
| 08:51:20 | JdGordon | i tihnk that patch is fucked :p... upping a new 1 |
| 08:51:37 | midk | hm. |
| 08:52:35 | JdGordon | ok, all should work fine now... colour is spelt color, no crlf no tabs... http://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=1435887 |
| 08:52:37 | JdGordon | brb |
| 08:52:55 | midk | will try.. |
| 08:52:57 | BHSPitLappy | I thought rockbox went with the euro spellings |
| 08:53:48 | LinusN | JdGordon: i see no patch |
| 08:54:06 | LinusN | BHSPitLappy: no, there is no spelling policy |
| 08:54:24 | LinusN | the main policy is to maintain some consistency |
| 08:54:41 | BHSPitLappy | well either way, I'm fine |
| 08:54:48 | BHSPitLappy | it IS spelled "color" ;) |
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| 08:54:52 | LinusN | haha |
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| 08:56:18 | * | amiconn prefers british english spelling |
| 08:56:37 | * | LinusN doesn't prefer anything |
| 08:56:58 | amiconn | I'm using it in comments, but for code american spelling is so common that I stick to it |
| 08:57:24 | LinusN | i tend to mix american and english spelling all the time |
| 08:57:39 | LinusN | but i think i mostly use american |
| 08:57:48 | BHSPitLappy | Which color is your favourite colour? |
| 08:57:54 | LinusN | haha |
| 08:59:58 | amiconn | BHSPitLappy: light grey from a palette of grayscales ;) |
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| 09:00:26 | BHSPitLappy | meh |
| 09:00:32 | BHSPitLappy | I alternate between those all the time |
| 09:00:45 | BHSPitLappy | I actually just consider grey lighter and gray darker |
| 09:00:52 | Zoide777 | *grey*scale?? :D |
| 09:00:52 | needleboy | jdgordon: got a new version of the album art? |
| 09:00:58 | BHSPitLappy | just a weird personal conviction |
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| 09:01:45 | midk | by the way.. does anyone know the situation with RAM on the ipod 5g? .. the 60gb model has 64mb but the 30gb model has 32mb. the makefile always generates a 32mb build. earlier today i modified the makefile to build for 64mb to see what would happen. |
| 09:02:00 | midk | rockbox showed 60mb of RAM, but all codecs gave "codec failure" and no plugins worked. |
| 09:02:11 | midk | expected? what else needs to be done to use all 64mb? |
| 09:03:11 | ashridah | did you run make clean before building rockbox? the plugins may have decided they didn't need to be rebuilt |
| 09:03:27 | midk | iirc i cleaned out the build directory and started over.. |
| 09:03:47 | ashridah | well. i'm out of ideas :) |
| 09:03:57 | midk | hahaha :) |
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| 09:04:10 | amiconn | preglow ? |
| 09:04:17 | midk | hey B4gder |
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| 09:04:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | midk: If I understand correctly, if you tell it that there's 64mb, the plugins are still built on the assumption that there's 32 and they're loaded into the end of memory, 'cept it's not the end any more. |
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| 09:04:34 | * | Paul_The_Nerd may have misunderstood how it worked though. |
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| 09:04:44 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, what tells the plugins there's still 32mb? |
| 09:04:58 | ashridah | B4gder: there's at least one file from the iaudio simulator build missing from the daily build source drops |
| 09:05:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Honestly, no clue. |
| 09:05:16 | B4gder | ashridah: aha, which? |
| 09:05:46 | ashridah | uh. i forget? infamis mentioned it, it's probably in the irc logs |
| 09:05:51 | ashridah | one of the .bmp files |
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| 09:10:50 | midkay | i guess for the H300 "BUTTON_SELECT" is the NAVI button? |
| 09:11:33 | preglow | amiconn: yea |
| 09:13:02 | amiconn | Your idea about putting the plugin (and codec) RAM at the beginning of the RAM (directly behind the vector table)... |
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| 09:13:37 | amiconn | When I'm thinking about it - this could also be useful on archos. |
| 09:13:41 | preglow | oh? |
| 09:13:47 | preglow | btw, it's linuxstb's idea |
| 09:13:53 | amiconn | No need for separate builds for 8MB modded boxes |
| 09:14:02 | preglow | can you detect the ram size? |
| 09:14:57 | amiconn | Just try to write a long at (RAM_START + checked_size - 4) and try to read back |
| 09:15:54 | amiconn | On archs where accessing a non-existing location causes a bus hang (e.g. coldfire), care must be taken to break this bus cycle |
| 09:16:15 | preglow | indeed |
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| 09:16:27 | amiconn | Coldfire can do this with the watchguard |
| 09:16:34 | preglow | how do you break a bus cycle anyway? watchdog and iram cookie? |
| 09:20:31 | amiconn | The watchdog timer can either issue a reset or an interrupt |
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| 09:22:10 | amiconn | The interrupt could set a flag, 'bus timeout occured' |
| 09:22:29 | amiconn | The RAM size detection loop would check this flag |
| 09:22:50 | amiconn | But on iriver, RAM size detection doesn't make sense iiuc |
| 09:23:28 | amiconn | The different sized SDRAMs (H100 vs. H120/H300) need to be set up differently anyway |
| 09:23:41 | preglow | yup |
| 09:23:49 | JdGordon | grrrr.... bloody sf.. i forgot to check the freeking box again |
| 09:23:54 | * | JdGordon hates this stupid thing |
| 09:24:00 | preglow | i don't know enough about it to start thinking about how to set it up |
| 09:24:47 | JdGordon | LinusN: sorry.. missed the checkbox.. its up again |
| 09:24:52 | preglow | but anyway |
| 09:24:58 | preglow | i don't know if this will benefit ipod |
| 09:25:04 | preglow | it only will if i can manage to remap iram |
| 09:25:29 | JdGordon | needleboy: jdgordon: got a new version of the album art? ?? |
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| 09:26:16 | amiconn | preglow: Well, it would have the advantage to have one build for all iPod video models and still profit from the extra ram in the 60 GB models, regardless of iram remapping |
| 09:26:58 | kahm | is there a way to mount a different partition of the ipod disk |
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| 09:29:30 | kahm | is there a way to mount a different partition of the ipod disk |
| 09:30:23 | preglow | amiconn: well anyway, yeah, it sure as hell wouldn't hurt in any way |
| 09:30:49 | preglow | and if i do manage to remap the iram, we'll be rid of the long call problems once and for all |
| 09:32:07 | petur | if anybody wants to open up a creative zen vision: m to see what's inside and if Rb would run, there's an article on how to open it: |
| 09:32:09 | petur | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2006/02/how-to-disassemble-the-creative-zen-vision-m.php#more |
| 09:32:28 | amiconn | preglow: Iiuc arm short calls are limited to a 64MB range? |
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| 09:32:56 | preglow | amiconn: yeah, +/- 32 megs |
| 09:33:35 | amiconn | Then you will still need long calls anyway |
| 09:33:45 | preglow | why |
| 09:34:02 | preglow | i think we can safely assume the rockbox code will always fit in 32 megs |
| 09:34:50 | amiconn | Yes, but some IRAM and SDRAM code parts will always be more than 32MB apart |
| 09:35:02 | preglow | why? |
| 09:35:14 | preglow | if iram is mapped to 0, and sdram soon after |
| 09:35:30 | amiconn | I don't expect this to work |
| 09:35:33 | preglow | why not? |
| 09:36:13 | amiconn | I think the SDRAM controller can't map the SDRAM to an address that's not a multiple of the SDRAM size |
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| 09:36:35 | preglow | possibly |
| 09:37:01 | webguest20 | hi |
| 09:37:04 | amiconn | You could map the SDRAM at a higher boundary and map the IRAM immediately before it, |
| 09:37:05 | preglow | but then again, bear in mind it's not the sdram controller that does the remapping |
| 09:37:33 | preglow | it's a generic mechanism for remapping address ranges |
| 09:37:34 | amiconn | but then you have no RAM at 0x0 for the vector table |
| 09:37:41 | preglow | yes i do, iram |
| 09:38:10 | midkay | aaaaaaaaaargh....... are you KIDDING me...... i've been trying to figure out why this int won't seem to go above 1 for DAYS, poring over the code, recompiling and testing over and over again, checking the button handling and display code repeatedly.. |
| 09:38:18 | midkay | turns out it's not an int. it's a bool. *ooops* |
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| 09:40:33 | webguest20 | my rockbox doesn't play short ogg file |
| 09:40:38 | webguest20 | isn't bug? |
| 09:40:45 | preglow | perhaps it is |
| 09:40:45 | kahm | is there a way to mount a different partition of the ipod disk? |
| 09:41:05 | * | petur just pointed anythingbutipod.com in the direction of rockbox |
| 09:41:22 | preglow | heh |
| 09:41:31 | preglow | kahm: in rockbox? no |
| 09:41:58 | kahm | no i mean in general, theres 3 partitions on mine now, and i need to get in and edit a config file thats on one that isn't moutning in windows |
| 09:42:09 | kahm | this is in refrence to ipod linux |
| 09:42:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | kahm: Well, if it's formatted for linux then it's using the ext2 file system probably, which windows can't recognize. |
| 09:42:40 | kahm | ahh, that coul dbe it.. |
| 09:44:56 | midkay | iriver h300 - BUTTON_SELECT == NAVI button?.. |
| 09:45:00 | ashridah | Paul_The_Nerd: you can find drivers for ext2/3 for windows. i don't recall any supporting writing tho |
| 09:46:02 | preglow | amiconn: but yeah, pp resets, i jump to iram, remap sdram to some address slightly above 0, then jump to sdram, remap iram to 0, then set up the vector table |
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| 09:46:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | ashridah: I tried a few them. Most depend on it being on an actual drive though. The iPod shows up as a removable disk, like an SD-Card or whatnot, and the drivers don't seem to work with those. |
| 09:46:43 | midkay | can nobody confirm? |
| 09:46:51 | LinusN | midkay: yes |
| 09:47:01 | midkay | thanks, LinusN |
| 09:47:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | ashridah: I spent more time playing with various ext2 drivers than it would've taken for me to download a knoppix CD, burn it, reboot, do what I needed, and then reboot again. :) |
| 09:48:08 | preglow | there's a simple app that lets you access ext2 partitions |
| 09:48:09 | preglow | no driver |
| 09:48:31 | kahm | what is it preglow |
| 09:48:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: I may have tried that too. I found one app for such a purpose, and it wouldn't find the drive either. =/ |
| 09:49:09 | preglow | kahm: can't remember the name |
| 09:49:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maybe I just have bad luck with such things though |
| 09:49:28 | midkay | LinusN, what about Play/Pause, Stop, and A-B for H300? Play/Pause and Stop don't seem to be defined, not sure about A-B.. |
| 09:49:52 | LinusN | A-B is MENU |
| 09:50:12 | LinusN | BUTTON_ON is play/pause |
| 09:50:13 | midkay | why isn't that in button.h? |
| 09:50:24 | midkay | aaaah. |
| 09:50:36 | ashridah | ah |
| 09:50:38 | midkay | you mean MODE, right? |
| 09:50:43 | LinusN | ah, yes |
| 09:50:47 | safetydan | kahm, try this http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm |
| 09:50:57 | midkay | ah, k, that makes sense.. in a twisted sort of way ;) thanks |
| 09:51:36 | LinusN | i named those buttons back in the beginning of the iriver porting project |
| 09:51:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: That's the one that I tried. :( But if it works, that's good for him at least. |
| 09:52:00 | LinusN | back then i didn't know what to call them |
| 09:52:14 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, well it is worth a shot |
| 09:52:34 | LinusN | and i surely didn't know that the joystick button was called "navi" |
| 09:52:34 | safetydan | amiconn, thanks for fixing that warning, must have missed it as the compile results scrolled by |
| 09:52:51 | midkay | LinusN, ah :) ah, i see... |
| 09:52:58 | midkay | on the H120s it's different |
| 09:53:06 | LinusN | how? |
| 09:53:15 | midkay | i mean as opposed to H300s. |
| 09:53:19 | LinusN | ah, yes |
| 09:53:33 | midkay | you have an H300, right? |
| 09:53:42 | LinusN | yes |
| 09:54:00 | Zagor | guys, check out http://www.rockbox.org/__bugs/ again and yell if you spot any problems. otherwise we're ready to migrate. |
| 09:54:05 | midkay | would you mind testing a clock build for that target to see if the button layout seems... good? :) |
| 09:55:21 | B4gder | Zagor: are the passwords reset? |
| 09:55:51 | Zagor | yes |
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| 09:56:09 | Zagor | but now you should be able to use the new ones you set :-) |
| 09:56:25 | B4gder | btw, the top border was a bit too narrow when I tried it at home |
| 09:56:34 | B4gder | the "open a new task" text was cut off |
| 09:57:11 | Zagor | ok, i'll enlarge it |
| 09:58:29 | B4gder | Zagor: but I'd like to have direct links "submit new bug" and "submit new feqature request" etc instead |
| 09:59:09 | LinusN | midkay: can't do that right now, maybe later |
| 09:59:22 | midkay | LinusN, k, np |
| 09:59:24 | Zagor | B4gder: ah, I thought you meant on the rockbox pages |
| 09:59:30 | B4gder | there too |
| 09:59:42 | B4gder | I just find the "open new task" phrasing a bit confusing |
| 09:59:59 | B4gder | and I forsee that others will too |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:20 | Zagor | yes. I'm not sure how much I want to patch it, though. there's a 0.9.9 version in the works. |
| 10:00:30 | B4gder | ok |
| 10:00:37 | LinusN | won't there always be a new version in the works? |
| 10:01:06 | Zagor | of course, but patching things that the new version fixes is wasted work |
| 10:01:19 | LinusN | of course |
| 10:08:42 | safetydan | Has anyone looked at my audio debug screen in sim patch? |
| 10:08:58 | safetydan | Should I commit it or leave it to die in the tracker? |
| 10:09:23 | * | B4gder still hasn't checked |
| 10:10:23 | safetydan | no rush, just looking at the patch tracker |
| 10:11:35 | LinusN | JdGordon: there? |
| 10:11:55 | JdGordon | just heading down for dinner |
| 10:12:03 | JdGordon | i didnt stuff it again did i? |
| 10:12:32 | LinusN | i just wanted to say that i think it looks good |
| 10:12:51 | LinusN | except for the long lines and the untranslated strings, but i can fix that |
| 10:14:42 | Zagor | one really bad thing is that the "developers" dropdown is unsorted. and we have ~900 users... |
| 10:14:47 | LinusN | did you try to build it on the x5 sim? |
| 10:14:57 | LinusN | Zagor: :-) |
| 10:15:05 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 10:15:17 | LinusN | but are those 900 users really "developers"? |
| 10:15:28 | Zagor | no, they are split into groups |
| 10:15:31 | B4gder | I don't think his conversion script can tell |
| 10:15:58 | Zagor | the script puts everyone in one "basic" group, and then I move people manually to "reporters", "developers" and "admins" |
| 10:16:06 | midkay | btw, it seems to me like a lot of patches that have been in CVS for a while remain open on the tracker.. |
| 10:16:17 | LinusN | that's bad |
| 10:17:10 | Zagor | midkay: are you talking about the sourceforge tracker or the new test? |
| 10:17:27 | B4gder | in general the trackers need cleanup |
| 10:17:28 | midkay | Zagor, the sourceforge tracker (the rockbox patches page specifically) |
| 10:17:32 | Zagor | ok |
| 10:17:42 | B4gder | the problem is that the trackers _always_ need cleanup |
| 10:17:50 | midkay | yes, it seems like a lot of invalid bug reports/feature requests also are just sitting there.. |
| 10:18:17 | midkay | if it's a matter of needing somebody to do it, i could help.. |
| 10:18:23 | LinusN | please |
| 10:18:30 | B4gder | midkay: what's your SF user name? |
| 10:18:39 | midkay | midknight2k3 |
| 10:18:44 | Zagor | I think such janitor work will also be a lot less painful with the new tracker |
| 10:18:52 | LinusN | good |
| 10:18:59 | midkay | cool |
| 10:19:59 | B4gder | midkay: you now have access to close entries etc |
| 10:20:16 | midkay | B4gder, awesome, thx.. i'll have to go on a cleaning spree :) |
| 10:20:24 | B4gder | clean clean clean! |
| 10:20:38 | midkay | mr. clean mr. clean .. however the rest goes... :) |
| 10:20:56 | B4gder | I've done that a few times |
| 10:21:23 | B4gder | prepare to get a mail from a grumpy user who has been waiting on that particular entry for YEARS that you just closed |
| 10:21:28 | LinusN | "gotta clean them all" |
| 10:21:48 | midkay | yeah, i was just browsing the feature requests a few days ago to have a look at what might be new... seemed like lots of miscategorized/impossible requests.. |
| 10:21:53 | midkay | hahahaha |
| 10:21:54 | LinusN | B4gder: yes, "rotting in the tracker" |
| 10:22:01 | B4gder | indeed |
| 10:22:07 | B4gder | insane demands I say |
| 10:22:45 | LinusN | B4gder: btw, the 9-bit table approach works fine on the x5 target |
| 10:22:53 | B4gder | cool |
| 10:23:05 | B4gder | did any speed measures? |
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| 10:23:14 | LinusN | no |
| 10:23:25 | Zagor | question for all: do we have any reason NOT to move to the new tracker immediately? |
| 10:23:35 | LinusN | hehe, i had some problems with wait states until i realized that the iaudio boot loader starts the application in 120MHz |
| 10:23:43 | Zagor | it's not perfect, but heaven knows the old one isn't either |
| 10:23:51 | LinusN | Zagor: i have no problems with that |
| 10:23:51 | B4gder | LinusN: hehe |
| 10:24:04 | midkay | Zagor, the new one looks pretty cool, no objections.. |
| 10:24:05 | B4gder | Zagor: just one q, does this new one have a good export ability? |
| 10:24:15 | midkay | if it makes cleaning easier, sooner = better :) |
| 10:24:31 | B4gder | Zagor: I mean if we feel we want to move to yet another in 5 years |
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| 10:24:59 | Zagor | B4gder: well, we have the database and the format locally. if I could convert to it, surely we can convert from it as well. |
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| 10:25:12 | B4gder | ok, good enough |
| 10:25:27 | B4gder | then it has my blessing |
| 10:25:32 | LinusN | better not tell sourceforge that we have abandoned their tracker, or we will never be "project of the month" ;-) |
| 10:25:38 | Zagor | oh no! |
| 10:25:38 | midkay | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=968228 |
| 10:25:39 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 10:25:46 | midkay | first of all - what his he talking about? |
| 10:25:53 | B4gder | btw, SF is about to start offering svn access... :*) |
| 10:25:54 | midkay | second of all - bagder's response- hahaha |
| 10:26:20 | infamis | I'm back! |
| 10:26:29 | B4gder | midkay: in one word: clean |
| 10:26:38 | safetydan | midkay, if you make the screen black you can see more of your reflection... maybe they want to check their hair |
| 10:27:23 | midkay | safetydan, so.. instead of pulling out a mirror they'd like to pull out their mp3 player, navigate through a series of menus to load a plugin to make the screen black so they can "kinda sorta" see their reflection? :) |
| 10:27:31 | safetydan | yes |
| 10:27:34 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:27:41 | midkay | genius! :) |
| 10:27:48 | B4gder | pure and real |
| 10:27:49 | midkay | may i set priority to 9? :) |
| 10:27:53 | safetydan | please do |
| 10:28:04 | midkay | this should definitely be on the todo list. |
| 10:28:07 | midkay | it sounds wonderful. |
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| 10:28:50 | safetydan | Anyone know how to make Eclipse use -kk when doing diffs between branches? |
| 10:29:09 | * | B4gder never used Eclipse |
| 10:29:44 | safetydan | part of my day job |
| 10:29:44 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has only used eclipse for PHP syntax highlighting. |
| 10:30:08 | petur | midkay: that mirror request is already implemented, it's called the OFF button :P |
| 10:30:37 | B4gder | "bug report: when you start the mirror plugin, the music stops" ;-) |
| 10:30:46 | petur | hahaha |
| 10:30:59 | * | LinusN gets that tracktheripper feeling |
| 10:31:14 | infamis | anyone know why this file would have "error - can't read image": /usr/src/rockbox-devel/sim-build/apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.c |
| 10:31:21 | midkay | hahaha |
| 10:31:37 | infamis | ewels.160x128x16.c] Error 1 |
| 10:31:50 | B4gder | infamis: 64bit machine? |
| 10:31:57 | midkay | LinusN, we still want LCD pincushion/barrel/trapezoid adjustments and degauss functionality! :) |
| 10:32:03 | LinusN | oh yes |
| 10:32:12 | infamis | nah, just 32 amdk6 |
| 10:32:29 | infamis | but I'm on a P4 right now & get the same err |
| 10:32:38 | midkay | isn't that a missing file for the x5 someone mentioned earlier? |
| 10:32:39 | infamis | trying to build the sim for x5 |
| 10:33:00 | B4gder | infamis: what source are you using? |
| 10:33:07 | infamis | from cvs rockbox-dev |
| 10:33:11 | JdGordon | "[20:12] LinusN: i just wanted to say that i think it looks good" thanx :D so it will actually get commited? (yippee) |
| 10:33:45 | LinusN | JdGordon: i'm looking at it now |
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| 10:33:59 | LinusN | the strings need to be in the lang files |
| 10:34:12 | infamis | midkay, you recommended me see if I get that error doing a normal archos recorder build...I didn't...trying to see if I get it with an archos sim build |
| 10:34:12 | midkay | Zagor, what's the deal with moving to flyspray? if i begin cleaning up a bit now, that will carry over? |
| 10:34:18 | JdGordon | im not sure how you do translation, so i left it :p |
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| 10:34:20 | LinusN | you should check if it builds without warnings on the other platforms |
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| 10:34:30 | midkay | infamis, i think that file was declared missing.. |
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| 10:34:52 | moda | guys, can someone tell me how do i tell the pbar where to go in the wps? |
| 10:34:59 | moda | how do i define where it goes? |
| 10:35:00 | infamis | it exists....it just has the text in it: "error - can't read image" |
| 10:35:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda: It just goes on whatever line you put it on. It counts as a line of text. |
| 10:35:18 | midkay | hmm. |
| 10:35:19 | B4gder | infamis: that file is generated by the 'bmp2rb' tool |
| 10:35:28 | LinusN | JdGordon: also, you seem to have forgotten to call lcd_get_back/foreground() when initializing the back/foreground_color variables |
| 10:35:34 | B4gder | infamis: using the bitmap in plugins/bitmaps/native/ as source |
| 10:35:40 | JdGordon | where? |
| 10:35:49 | safetydan | It's possible that bitmap wasn't checked-in in binary maybe? |
| 10:35:54 | LinusN | JdGordon: draw_screen() |
| 10:36:07 | infamis | do I just copy over ui-x5.bmp to that dir? |
| 10:36:15 | LinusN | (which is a pretty bad name, unless you declare it static) |
| 10:36:17 | moda | <Paul_The_Nerd> moda: It just goes on whatever line you put it on. It counts as a line of text. <−− cant you define what pixel line it goes on? |
| 10:36:35 | Zagor | midkay: yes, all changes will carry over. i will close down the SF tracker before i export/convert the data, so no data loss should occur |
| 10:36:59 | JdGordon | LinusN: ah, ye, no biggee |
| 10:37:05 | midkay | Zagor, cool - so you planned to do this within.. a couple days or so? |
| 10:37:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda: Not that I'm aware of. I told you as much as I know. It's a line of text. |
| 10:37:17 | LinusN | also, please try to keep the lines shorter than 80 columns |
| 10:37:33 | Zagor | midkay: how in two hours? |
| 10:37:45 | Zagor | how about |
| 10:37:58 | LinusN | JdGordon: and the textrgb[6] array might need to be split in three, so it can be translated |
| 10:38:04 | JdGordon | ye, soz, that rules is annoying... 80chars is good for the good ol days of 640x480 and 14" screens... i can see 120... |
| 10:38:10 | JdGordon | gtg |
| 10:38:22 | midkay | Zagor, well, how about in two seconds? eh? ehh?? ;) |
| 10:38:30 | B4gder | JdGordon: not if you have three 80 col windows next to each other |
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| 10:38:59 | JdGordon | B4gder: no, but i have 3 15" screeens at 1024x768 next to eachopther to get around that :D |
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| 10:39:00 | LinusN | JdGordon: also it's not only about the editor |
| 10:39:01 | JdGordon | ttyl |
| 10:39:07 | B4gder | hah |
| 10:39:21 | infamis | the file dep-bitmaps-native in apps/plugins/bitmaps/native has a list of 38 "...../native/*.[co]" that don't exists...where do I get these files? |
| 10:39:21 | B4gder | anything full-screen seems like a waste to me |
| 10:39:43 | B4gder | infamis: again, they are generated |
| 10:39:56 | B4gder | from the .bmp files with bmp2rb |
| 10:40:14 | LinusN | the bitmap dependencies are broken |
| 10:40:25 | moda | is there anyway to move the pbar up or down maybe, 5 pixels? |
| 10:40:26 | B4gder | anyway, I can build the x5 sim on x11 fine |
| 10:40:36 | LinusN | moda: no |
| 10:40:43 | moda | bugger |
| 10:40:54 | infamis | the sim build works for target 2 (archos recorder) but not the x5...what I do I need to change? |
| 10:41:00 | moda | on one line, its too high, then on another line its too low :( |
| 10:41:01 | B4gder | (sdl on x11 that is) |
| 10:41:04 | linuxstb | LinusN: How are they broken? |
| 10:41:13 | LinusN | "make clean" sucks |
| 10:41:30 | safetydan | What's left to do in the SDL sim before we can start removing the old ones? |
| 10:41:30 | B4gder | it does? |
| 10:41:34 | LinusN | it tries to rebuild all bitmaps |
| 10:41:35 | linuxstb | LinusN: Yes - but that doesn't stop it working. |
| 10:41:41 | LinusN | yes it does |
| 10:41:59 | LinusN | because i need to do make clean to rebuild it after cvs update |
| 10:42:00 | linuxstb | It Works For Me. |
| 10:42:05 | B4gder | safetydan: afaik, only amiconn has feelings left for the win32 one |
| 10:42:21 | LinusN | otherwise i get linker errors for missing bejeweled bitmaps |
| 10:42:44 | moda | gah |
| 10:42:50 | LinusN | it worked for me only if i removed apps/ firmware/ and all .a files |
| 10:43:16 | safetydan | B4gder, there's at least the stdio issue under windows to fix as well |
| 10:43:17 | infamis | LinusN: so just do that & I won't get the "bejeweled..." missing errors? |
| 10:43:18 | LinusN | and if i try make clean twice, i get another error, where it can't find tools/bmp2rb |
| 10:43:36 | LinusN | infamis: perhaps |
| 10:43:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda: I don't know if the progress bar supports the transparent color, but you could *possibly* fake it with a bitmapped progress bar. |
| 10:43:54 | moda | i dont think it does |
| 10:44:01 | B4gder | safetydan: ah, yes |
| 10:44:19 | moda | anyone aware about when connected to usb, the backdrop for the wps is displayed? |
| 10:44:36 | LinusN | i didn't know |
| 10:44:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda: Also, if there's no text there, you could include a copy of the background image in those 5 pixels of extra space, so that you can't tell it covers them. |
| 10:44:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Again with the bitmapped progress bar. |
| 10:45:10 | moda | Paul_The_Nerd: will have to fiddle with that, thanks for the idea |
| 10:45:13 | midkay | should you change tracker items to "closed" if they're fixed, or leave them open? |
| 10:45:23 | LinusN | closed |
| 10:45:31 | midkay | seeing a lot of fixed and opens here.. |
| 10:45:40 | infamis | LinusN: ok, rebuilding after deleting sim-build/apps, sim-build/firmware, and *.a in sim-buil |
| 10:46:00 | LinusN | we had a policy to leave them open to keep track of what is fixed between released |
| 10:46:09 | LinusN | but i think we ditched that |
| 10:46:18 | LinusN | or? |
| 10:46:20 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:46:26 | midkay | "closed" it is? |
| 10:46:30 | B4gder | it becomes unmaintainable to keep them open |
| 10:46:34 | B4gder | close |
| 10:46:35 | B4gder | close |
| 10:46:36 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK B4gder |
| 10:46:36 | B4gder | close |
| 10:46:37 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 10:46:38 | midkay | k |
| 10:46:38 | midkay | yay |
| 10:46:39 | midkay | yay |
| 10:46:40 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK midkay |
| 10:46:40 | midkay | yay |
| 10:46:40 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 10:46:40 | midkay | :) |
| 10:46:49 | LinusN | it' |
| 10:46:58 | LinusN | s good that logbot isn't op |
| 10:47:00 | LinusN | :-) |
| 10:47:08 | midkay | that loser... :) |
| 10:47:26 | midkay | it's a good idea to close any open and fixed/rejected requests, then? |
| 10:47:35 | LinusN | 10.46.36 DBUG Enqueued KICK B4gder |
| 10:47:41 | B4gder | midkay: yes |
| 10:47:42 | LinusN | 10.46.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK midkay |
| 10:48:03 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 4 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:48:03 | * | midkay stabs logbot with a rusty fork |
| 10:48:23 | moda | wps, verticle first or second? |
| 10:48:27 | infamis | LinusN: same error...bejeweled....is there just a quick fix? what is the purpose of bejeweled; ie. is it necessary? |
| 10:48:34 | linuxstb | B4gder: Is there any reason why we can't just make the clean: target in the main build directory Makefile "rm -fr" everything that's been built, without calling all the other Makefiles? |
| 10:48:36 | LinusN | we had the idea that rejected requests should remain open so people could refrain from requesting the same things again |
| 10:48:40 | moda | |v|h| or |h|v| ? |
| 10:48:56 | B4gder | linuxstb: no, just old habit |
| 10:49:09 | linuxstb | infamis: You can remove bejewelled.c from apps/plugins/SOURCES - it's a game plugin |
| 10:49:14 | midkay | one more thing, at the bottom of the bug report/feature request pages it says "don't file bugs for unreleased code ie iriver".. for example there's a bug report for the incorrect battery display on the ipod.. this should be closed? set to "later"? invalid? or just left alone? |
| 10:49:26 | linuxstb | B4gder: So would you object to me changing it? |
| 10:49:33 | B4gder | linuxstb: nope |
| 10:49:38 | B4gder | go ahead |
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| 10:49:49 | B4gder | midkay: closed/later seems appropriate to me |
| 10:50:07 | B4gder | aggressive closure is good for us |
| 10:50:31 | LinusN | we really need to clean up in the patch tracker |
| 10:50:45 | B4gder | yeps, the oldest ones turn 3 soon ;-) |
| 10:50:52 | B4gder | years that is |
| 10:50:54 | moda | to update my wps, ive virtually had to rewrite it. gah |
| 10:50:58 | midkay | gotcha, alright.. *whips out mega broom and super-soaker loaded with closure spray* :) |
| 10:51:19 | Zagor | midkay: wait. |
| 10:51:29 | midkay | @ patches: should old/abandoned ones be closed? what about finished ones, commited? (after being tested, of course).. |
| 10:51:36 | infamis | LinusN: I commented out bejeweled.c & still get the error :( what am I missing? |
| 10:51:41 | moda | damnit, stop making rockbox so good, creating more work for wps writers :D |
| 10:51:50 | Zagor | I'll run the conversion right now. it's better that you work in the new one, reporting any problems you find. |
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| 10:51:59 | midkay | Zagor, great :) |
| 10:52:11 | Zagor | EVERYONE: SF trackers are taken offline NOW! |
| 10:52:15 | LinusN | the reason we still have old patches open is to allow people to start working on them again |
| 10:52:29 | * | LinusN does the famous tracker dance |
| 10:52:39 | midkay | haha. |
| 10:52:41 | * | midkay claps |
| 10:52:52 | midkay | we only get to see that once every few years! |
| 10:52:57 | * | infamis still has compile error |
| 10:53:06 | LinusN | "...which is danced every 20 minutes in the city of Trondheim" |
| 10:53:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Y'know, the channel stats script should keep track of how many dances occur. I'd be curious. |
| 10:53:19 | midkay | LinusN, ok.. should ones deemed "finished" be committed? |
| 10:53:19 | midkay | haha. |
| 10:53:44 | LinusN | Paul_The_Nerd: :-) |
| 10:54:26 | midkay | or what about just labeling very old and quite clearly abandoned patches "out of date"? |
| 10:56:41 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 10:57:26 | * | infamis cries cause rockbox won't compile for x5 sdl |
| 10:57:32 | moda | is doom going to be commited? |
| 10:58:00 | B4gder | infamis: you using cygwin I guess? |
| 10:58:07 | infamis | yeah |
| 10:59:06 | moda | i hate alignment issues |
| 10:59:10 | LinusN | has anybody check if the doom source is gpl compatible? |
| 10:59:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda: At the moment, doom doesn't work on anything but the h300. |
| 10:59:20 | moda | oh, yea |
| 10:59:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | LinusN: The doom source was released specifically under the GPL by id. |
| 10:59:33 | LinusN | good |
| 10:59:44 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, you had the data abort for nano, right? |
| 10:59:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Yeah |
| 10:59:52 | LinusN | then i have no problems committing doom, if it compiles cleanly |
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| 11:00:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | LinusN: Still generates a bunch of warnings. |
| 11:00:04 | moda | so does that mean all the other patches and stuff commited, work with the ipod etc? |
| 11:00:12 | B4gder | and I believe it requires a bigger plugin size |
| 11:00:14 | midkay | i tried it on my 5g earlier - it errored out with.. wait.. |
| 11:00:34 | midkay | buffer something.. |
| 11:00:36 | LinusN | B4gder: really? |
| 11:00:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | LinusN: Also requires 0xF0000 for H300 to compile and 0x120000 plugin buffer to compile on ipod. |
| 11:00:42 | midkay | buffer error, i think. |
| 11:00:43 | B4gder | iirc, yes |
| 11:00:51 | LinusN | oh |
| 11:00:59 | LinusN | too bad |
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| 11:01:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Quite a bit more, yes. |
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| 11:01:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | It should probably just use the audio buffer for a lot of its stuff, since y'know... it has its own music and sound effects and all. |
| 11:01:53 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, that was it, buffer error - i checked the source, that seems to have to do with sound buffer, so i tried increasing both plugin buffer and sound buffer, never got past the buffer error |
| 11:02:19 | midkay | I removed the buffer size check, and got a data abort. |
| 11:02:37 | infamis | so has anybody ever built the x5 sdl image (with cygwin)? |
| 11:02:47 | LinusN | infamis: building now... |
| 11:03:03 | LinusN | damn, cygwin is so slow... |
| 11:03:16 | midkay | agreed.. |
| 11:03:19 | B4gder | indeed |
| 11:03:23 | linuxstb | B4gder, LinusN: make clean is now changed to rm -fr the files |
| 11:03:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Yeah. kkurbjun is the one mainly working on it. It's probably still due to the way he's changed one of the structs. It has to do with how he optimized something, I think. I don't really know, honestly. :) |
| 11:03:34 | linuxstb | I've also added chessbox to the build system. |
| 11:03:34 | LinusN | linuxstb: and it works? |
| 11:03:44 | LinusN | does it work to do make clean twice? |
| 11:03:51 | linuxstb | Yes |
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| 11:04:10 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, alright :) just a little FYI on we don't have the same error, guess we both need the Master to continue :) |
| 11:04:51 | linuxstb | This should also greatly speed up make clean for cygwin users. |
| 11:05:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I thought you said you had a data abort. |
| 11:05:10 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, no, buffer error. |
| 11:05:21 | midkay | data abort if i screw with the source and remove the buffer size check. |
| 11:05:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Yeah, but the buffer error was while compiling. If you change the plugin buffer value for ipod 5g to 0x120000 it *should* work. |
| 11:05:42 | Nico | linuxstb: changing make clean to rm -fr means we will have to put files back in the archos dir, no ? |
| 11:05:43 | midkay | (just to see if i could get by with an apparently invalid buffer size) :) |
| 11:05:45 | midkay | what? no. |
| 11:05:58 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, i changed the plugin buffer size. doom.rock runs. |
| 11:06:05 | midkay | when i "start game", i get a buffer error. |
| 11:06:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 11:06:15 | midkay | i checked the source and i believe it has to do with sound.. |
| 11:06:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oooh |
| 11:06:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wait |
| 11:06:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did you remove the -D_BIG__ENDIAN___ or whatever from the makefile? |
| 11:06:30 | midkay | so i tried adjusting the sound buffer, to no avail. |
| 11:06:36 | midkay | i didn't... |
| 11:06:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | That would be what you're hitting, I bet. |
| 11:06:51 | midkay | really? i'll have to try that.. |
| 11:07:00 | amiconn | safetydan: The SDL sim sound is still shaky, at least on windows |
| 11:07:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | In the doom folder, open up the makefile and find that, it should be at the end of the first big clump of cflags |
| 11:07:13 | amiconn | As long as you let it just play, it works. |
| 11:07:35 | linuxstb | Nico: No, make clean doesn't delete the archos folder - just the files that have been built. |
| 11:07:52 | amiconn | But if you produce load otherwise, e.g. move the sim window around, it crashes with a SIGSEGV |
| 11:08:14 | LinusN | linuxstb: which should be names "virtual_disk" or something... |
| 11:08:16 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, aha, compiling :) |
| 11:08:36 | B4gder | LinusN: or plain "root" |
| 11:08:38 | LinusN | "archos" is a little misleading nowadays :-) |
| 11:09:04 | amiconn | LinusN: I tried building the SDL sim with -mconsole on windows. It does indeed produce a console app, which opens a console window when started with double click |
| 11:09:11 | LinusN | funny, i just tried a clean x5 build, and it failed on sudoku.o :-( |
| 11:09:18 | amiconn | ...but the console doesn't receive stdout/stderr |
| 11:09:23 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, argh.. i better re-checkout source and reapply the patch to start over.. need a clean start |
| 11:09:43 | amiconn | LinusN: x5 sim fails on sudoku here as well... |
| 11:09:45 | safetydan | amiconn, SDL explicitly redirects stderr and stdout so I don't think -mconsole influences that |
| 11:10:06 | amiconn | How can we tell SDL not to do that? |
| 11:10:40 | safetydan | amiconn, apparently you have to rebuild libsdl http://www.libsdl.org/faq.php?action=listentries&category=4#85 |
| 11:11:01 | LinusN | i have tried to tell you guys three times now |
| 11:11:13 | safetydan | the sound issues are (I think) related to how the Rockbox threads are mapped to SDL threads |
| 11:11:20 | LinusN | i repeat: don't use the main() from the sdl lib |
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| 11:11:54 | LinusN | or am i totally out in the blue here? |
| 11:12:46 | linuxstb | I've just compiled the x5 SDL sim, and it worked perfectly. |
| 11:13:01 | * | amiconn has no idea how this can be done, or even how the SDL sim startup works |
| 11:13:12 | amiconn | The shutdown is buggy as well, btw |
| 11:13:24 | ashridah | infamis: did you end up checking out a copy of CVS? |
| 11:13:39 | infamis | ashridah: yeah |
| 11:13:41 | LinusN | i always close the window to "shut down" |
| 11:15:37 | infamis | well, I got it to compile for the X5 after commenting out everything in apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/SOURCES and bejeweled.c/brickmania.c/sudoku.c in apps/plugins |
| 11:16:16 | LinusN | it seems there are some missing bitmaps for the x5 |
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| 11:17:19 | B4gder | but why does the sdl on x11 build it then? |
| 11:17:33 | LinusN | beats me |
| 11:17:47 | infamis | it seems bmp2rb can't read the bitmaps for some reason? cygwin redirectio nproblem or something? |
| 11:18:12 | LinusN | there are no sudoku bitmaps for 160x128x16 |
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| 11:22:38 | HCl | hmm |
| 11:22:44 | HCl | who uses norton firewall? :o |
| 11:22:59 | ender` | you want to startkeylogger ?:) |
| 11:23:02 | HCl | :P |
| 11:23:06 | ashridah | HAHAHAHA |
| 11:23:25 | ashridah | norton firewall |
| 11:23:28 | * | ashridah sniggers |
| 11:23:42 | safetydan | LinusN, I'm not sure to go about doing that as the SDL_main takes care of a fair bit of setup |
| 11:23:43 | HCl | ashridah: it has a bug that when it encounters startkeylogger in plaintext, it disconnects the connection |
| 11:23:46 | HCl | :p |
| 11:24:00 | LinusN | safetydan: yes i know... |
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| 11:24:21 | ashridah | rofl |
| 11:24:23 | HCl | http://tehmaze.nl/weblog/?eid=32 |
| 11:24:24 | ashridah | that's classic |
| 11:24:25 | LinusN | but that's our only option if we don't want to rebuild the sdl lib |
| 11:24:26 | HCl | look at that :p |
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| 11:25:44 | safetydan | I guess the easiest thing would be to stop linking in the SDL_main and use our own version that doesn't do the redirect |
| 11:26:32 | infamis | is this how the sim is supposed to look: http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6388/x51oe.jpg |
| 11:26:37 | safetydan | guess we won't need the WinCE stuff |
| 11:26:48 | safetydan | infamis, yes |
| 11:26:57 | LinusN | safetydan: that's what i've been saying |
| 11:27:26 | B4gder | infamis: unless you run it with −−background |
| 11:27:27 | safetydan | LinusN, sorry... it takes a few goes before things stick in my head :) |
| 11:27:32 | LinusN | haha |
| 11:27:50 | safetydan | that and I don't have VMWare or similar set up so I have to reboot in to windows to test things like that |
| 11:28:05 | LinusN | lovely, isn't it? |
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| 11:28:17 | moda | anyone know a good place to upload a 11mb file? |
| 11:29:57 | ender` | maybe yousendit ? |
| 11:30:07 | moda | thats the one |
| 11:30:12 | midkay | yousendit's good for temporary hosting |
| 11:30:50 | moda | i got my pbar aligned btw :D |
| 11:31:02 | infamis | B4gder: cool...why does the bottom half ot he screen look jumbled? |
| 11:31:14 | moda | any graphical ppls wanna help me out: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=37578 |
| 11:31:59 | infamis | and I get couldn't load codec / codec failures on switching trakcs |
| 11:33:03 | moda | i hate having such a crappy upload speed. argh |
| 11:33:09 | moda | 11kbytes/s my ass |
| 11:33:49 | infamis | cycles through all tracks also |
| 11:35:21 | LinusN | B4gder: i think the sdl sim build works in x11 because the symbols are resolved when loading the plugin |
| 11:35:52 | LinusN | so the missing bitmaps aren't detected when compiling |
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| 11:36:31 | preglow | btw |
| 11:36:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bah, I have decided sleep is unimportant. |
| 11:36:44 | preglow | why are plugins proper dynamic linked libs in the sim? |
| 11:36:56 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, welcome back :) |
| 11:37:06 | infamis | Paul_The_Nerd: I decided the opposite.... |
| 11:37:06 | LinusN | preglow: it turned out to be a working method |
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| 11:38:25 | safetydan | which reminds me I should look at using SDL_LoadObject to replace the dlopen stuff |
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| 11:40:26 | LinusN | safetydan: aha |
| 11:40:39 | LinusN | why? |
| 11:41:39 | Innominatus | does anybody know why disk mode with rockbox on iPod Nano is extremely slow? |
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| 11:41:45 | safetydan | because it might be more portable? |
| 11:41:52 | safetydan | it was just something I was going to look at |
| 11:41:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Innominatus: Hardware disk mode is very slow. |
| 11:41:57 | safetydan | one less #ifdef basically |
| 11:42:10 | midkay | hm, does anyone know if the ipod's hardware disk mode is usb2.0 like it's apple OS alternative? |
| 11:42:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Innominatus: If you want to, you can boot into the normal ipod firmware and use its disk mode. |
| 11:42:33 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, does hardware disk mode run at usb 1.1? |
| 11:42:57 | Innominatus | Paul_The_Nerd: I have to do it this way ): |
| 11:43:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Innominatus: Your Retail OS got corrupted? |
| 11:43:13 | preglow | midkay: why is it important? why all know it's slow and it can't be changed anyway |
| 11:43:21 | preglow | s/why/we/ |
| 11:43:40 | midkay | preglow, i'm just curious. it wouldn't make much sense for it to be slower in usb2.0 mode... |
| 11:43:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I haven't bothered to check. I said "Hrm, it's slow" and then avoided it. |
| 11:43:48 | midkay | haha. |
| 11:43:51 | preglow | midkay: there are tons of reasons for why it can be slower |
| 11:44:10 | midkay | preglow, shows how much i know, again, just curious.. |
| 11:44:34 | preglow | all the code apple keeps in flash is designed totally for reliability, not speed |
| 11:45:00 | preglow | even the firmware loader is five times slower than it could be |
| 11:45:26 | linuxstb | Why do you say that? The CPU clock speed? |
| 11:45:39 | markun | The Zen Vision:M uses the TI DM320 (same as new Neuros), so that doesn't look very good for a port.. |
| 11:45:58 | preglow | linuxstb: weren't you the one boasting the immense speedup when you made rockbox bootloader load retailos from disk itself? |
| 11:46:48 | linuxstb | Yes - the speedup was because the current method always loads retailos from disk. The Rockbox bootloader is attached to retailos. So in the case of booting directly to Rockbox, there is a speedup because retailos isn't loaded. |
| 11:47:43 | linuxstb | I didn't time the difference between booting to retailos via the two methods. |
| 11:47:50 | * | amiconn now knows the path to take for adding grayscale lib support to the sims :) |
| 11:48:39 | preglow | right, then i didn't understand what you said at all |
| 11:49:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, umm, chessbox doesn't run on my ipod. |
| 11:49:54 | linuxstb | But you're right that the flash bootloader is slow - it shouldn't take 3-4 seconds to load 5MB of data. |
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| 11:50:08 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 11:50:16 | perpleXa | lo |
| 11:50:25 | Topic | "The Rockbox Channel - http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ - New bug tracker: http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/" by Zagor (n=bjst@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Zagor) |
| 11:50:34 | * | midkay cheers |
| 11:50:35 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: What's the problem? |
| 11:50:44 | Zagor | midkay: go go go |
| 11:50:53 | midkay | Zagor, yessir :) |
| 11:51:01 | preglow | Zagor: better change the site urls |
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| 11:51:07 | Zoide777 | hi guys |
| 11:51:12 | Zagor | preglow: yes |
| 11:51:14 | Zoide777 | any tagcache updates? |
| 11:51:20 | preglow | Zoide777: no |
| 11:52:35 | moda | Paul_The_Nerd: that suggestion about the pbar worked, its all alligned now :D |
| 11:53:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Data abort at blah |
| 11:53:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda: Yay for cheap tricks, 'eh? |
| 11:53:30 | amiconn | Zagor: Shouldn't the list be in reverse date order, with the newest entry at the top? |
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| 11:54:33 | linuxstb | Zagor: Do the existing developers need to request to have their group changed? |
| 11:54:47 | safetydan | Zagor, same question as linuxstb :) |
| 11:54:52 | Zagor | amiconn: depends on your view I suppose. one could argue that the oldest are in most need of attention :-) |
| 11:55:02 | midkay | Zagor, can i actually make a new username for this tracker? |
| 11:55:03 | Zagor | i'll bump all SF devs. hang on.. |
| 11:55:08 | Zagor | midkay: yes you can |
| 11:56:35 | midkay | Zagor, um.. how can i create a new account? :) can't find a button anywhere.. |
| 11:56:37 | Zoide777 | preglow: is database v2 not being developed anymore? |
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| 11:57:00 | Zagor | midkay: maybe it's not active yet. hang on, bumping devs... |
| 11:57:09 | midkay | alright |
| 11:58:17 | markun | I see a bug report about the 'greek font' not working in rockbox. Did we have a greek font? |
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| 11:59:00 | needleboy | is anyone aware of the fact the SourceForge tracker is down? |
| 11:59:02 | linuxstb | Zagor: I can't see any download links for attachments - am I missing something obvious? |
| 11:59:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | needleboy: Look at the channel topic. |
| 11:59:42 | * | Paul_The_Nerd laughs at "make veryclean" |
| 11:59:43 | linuxstb | (I'm looking at the two most recent patches - 3060 and 3058) |
| 11:59:47 | midkay | linuxstb, i can just click the filenames of attached files.. |
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| 12:00:18 | needleboy | how about the patch tracker? |
| 12:00:20 | markun | amiconn: do you know if we had a greek font before unicode? |
| 12:00:23 | Zagor | devs are now bumped |
| 12:00:25 | Jungti1234 | hey markun |
| 12:00:27 | linuxstb | midkay: I can't see any filenames... |
| 12:00:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | needleboy: They're all the same tracker now |
| 12:00:36 | Topic | "The Rockbox Channel - http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ - New bug/patch/request tracker: http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/" by Zagor (n=bjst@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Zagor) |
| 12:00:37 | markun | Jungti1234: hi there |
| 12:00:40 | midkay | linuxstb, i don't see them either for recent patches. |
| 12:00:41 | midkay | try another. |
| 12:00:42 | Jungti1234 | You don't answer.. |
| 12:00:43 | needleboy | found it |
| 12:00:45 | needleboy | forget it |
| 12:00:47 | needleboy | thanks |
| 12:01:24 | midkay | Zagor, do you have the ability to just change my account name? that'd be easiest |
| 12:01:37 | Zagor | midkay: sure |
| 12:01:45 | midkay | "midkay" please :) |
| 12:01:45 | needleboy | does it use the wiki username? |
| 12:01:57 | midkay | needleboy, no, sourceforge username |
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| 12:02:04 | Zagor | linuxstb: they should be visible. see here http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/1008 |
| 12:02:04 | linuxstb | midkay: Yes - I see them on older patches. Zagor: Have we lost some attachments in the transfer? |
| 12:02:05 | needleboy | doesn't work... |
| 12:02:27 | linuxstb | Zagor: Try the most recent patches. e.g. this one: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1437195 |
| 12:02:34 | safetydan | Zagor, apparently I'm not a dev. Could you fix that please? :) |
| 12:02:39 | linuxstb | Which is now this one: http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3060 |
| 12:02:43 | Zagor | possbibly the "reporters" group is not allowed to see attachments. we'll have to tweak all these things. |
| 12:02:44 | midkay | needleboy, perhaps you never posted anything under the rockbox tracker with that account? |
| 12:02:46 | perpleXa | perpleXa@temple rockbox $ cvs update -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox-devel |
| 12:02:46 | perpleXa | cvs update: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option |
| 12:02:47 | Zagor | safetydan: oh sorry |
| 12:02:55 | perpleXa | could someone help me please fixing this? |
| 12:03:02 | perpleXa | i dont actually use cvs.. :) |
| 12:03:06 | linuxstb | Zagor: I can see attachments for older patches. |
| 12:03:08 | midkay | Zagor, i'm logged out but i can see attachments on older files, just not newer ones, like linuxstb.. |
| 12:03:17 | LinusN | same here |
| 12:03:20 | Zagor | safetydan: there |
| 12:03:30 | Zagor | midkay, linuxstb: example? |
| 12:03:39 | Zagor | ah |
| 12:03:39 | safetydan | Zagor, cheers |
| 12:03:47 | linuxstb | Read back 1 minute - I just gave one. |
| 12:03:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zagor: Reporters CAN see attachments, for example I saw them on your 1008 link, but not the 3060 link |
| 12:03:54 | safetydan | perpleXa, you're command is a little off |
| 12:03:58 | safetydan | perpleXa, you're doing update and checkout |
| 12:04:05 | | Join seanyseansean [0] (n=50b14024@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:04:06 | perpleXa | i just wanna update |
| 12:04:07 | perpleXa | :x |
| 12:04:17 | Zagor | Paul_The_Nerd: ok |
| 12:04:36 | safetydan | perpleXa, just type "cvs -q -z6 update -dP" in your rockbox-devel directory |
| 12:04:44 | Zagor | seems there is some fixing to do. don't panic. :-) |
| 12:04:56 | midkay | Zagor, can you rename my account to 'midkay' please? |
| 12:04:57 | Zagor | I'll have to dash for lunch now, back in <1h |
| 12:05:25 | midkay | ah well, enjoy :) |
| 12:05:34 | perpleXa | safetydan: ty |
| 12:06:28 | Zoide777 | does anyone know what happened to "Database V2"? Is it now completely abandoned for tagcache? |
| 12:08:18 | | Quit petur ("out to lunch - if not back by 5, out to dinner too") |
| 12:09:04 | Nico | very nice new tracker |
| 12:09:09 | Nico | impressive |
| 12:09:20 | Nico | and much mre user friendly than the SF one :) |
| 12:09:50 | | Join ScoTTie_ [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) |
| 12:10:42 | Nico | but how do i edit my patches ?? |
| 12:10:51 | midkay | Nico, are you logged in? |
| 12:10:55 | Nico | yes |
| 12:11:13 | midkay | probably just open the patch entry, there should be some sort of edit button, i'd imagine.. |
| 12:11:34 | Nico | well i can't find it |
| 12:11:51 | midkay | hmm |
| 12:13:11 | Nico | all i can do is post a comment... |
| 12:13:22 | midkay | no idea.. |
| 12:14:18 | * | preglow sings the unfixable bug lament |
| 12:14:48 | | Quit Innominatus (Client Quit) |
| 12:15:33 | | Quit Jungti1234 () |
| 12:16:04 | * | amiconn wonders how to log in to the new tracker |
| 12:16:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Unfixable bug? |
| 12:16:28 | Nico | amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlySpray |
| 12:16:58 | Nico | Zagor: could you put me in devs group ? |
| 12:17:35 | needleboy | some of the patches in the tracker are missing their files... |
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| 12:17:50 | | Quit seanyseansean ("CGI:IRC") |
| 12:17:51 | Nico | needleboy: i'd even say "a lot" |
| 12:18:02 | linuxstb | needleboy: Yes, that's a known problem. Zagor has said he will look at it when he returns from lunch. |
| 12:18:22 | needleboy | aight |
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| 12:18:32 | needleboy | wanted to compile a build, but i'll wait |
| 12:18:36 | needleboy | i like the new tracker |
| 12:18:39 | Nico | needleboy: is jdgordon's color picker working for you ? |
| 12:18:46 | needleboy | it's fast |
| 12:18:50 | needleboy | Nico, yeah it is |
| 12:18:58 | needleboy | perfectly, check the latest Optimized build |
| 12:19:01 | Nico | could you send me the patch ? |
| 12:19:06 | needleboy | hold on |
| 12:19:43 | Nico | i tired to correct the original patch but i must have done something wrong, it doesn't compile... and now i cant' get the original back |
| 12:20:06 | needleboy | send it where? |
| 12:20:17 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) |
| 12:20:17 | linuxstb | Nico: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1435887 |
| 12:20:18 | Nico | why not to the tracker ? |
| 12:20:20 | needleboy | I'll DCC it |
| 12:20:23 | needleboy | hold on |
| 12:20:39 | Nico | linuxstb: 'ERROR |
| 12:20:40 | Nico | Artifact: Only Group Members Can View Private ArtifactTypes |
| 12:20:53 | | Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 12:21:01 | linuxstb | Nico: You're getting that message on sourceforge? |
| 12:21:16 | Nico | yes. i can't access the old tracker at all |
| 12:21:20 | B4gder | it might be Zagor disabling the tracker(s) |
| 12:21:30 | midkay | Zagor disabled the sf tracker.. |
| 12:21:33 | linuxstb | OK, sorry. I'm a dev, so I must still be able to access it. |
| 12:21:54 | midkay | linuxstb, the old tracker? i'm a dev, i can't.. he seems to have made it completely inacessible.. |
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| 12:22:10 | Nico | linuxstb: btw, have you had a look at the latest version my album art patch ? |
| 12:23:06 | needleboy | Nico: http://rbh300.chendo.net/ColourPatch.zip |
| 12:23:30 | linuxstb | Nico: No, not yet. |
| 12:23:37 | Nico | ok |
| 12:24:16 | Nico | needleboy: thx |
| 12:24:17 | linuxstb | But I think we will need to find a way to reduce the memory usage before it can be commited - probably by using the audio buffer. |
| 12:24:41 | needleboy | îô |
| 12:24:43 | needleboy | np |
| 12:24:58 | needleboy | i'm out, bbl |
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| 12:25:00 | needleboy | ciao |
| 12:25:08 | | Quit miner49er (Client Quit) |
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| 12:26:53 | miner49er | Hi there, I was sondering if anyone could help with my problem with running my plugin in the simulator - it says "incompatable model" - even if I remove everything from the main function and just return OK. Can anyone help me at all please? |
| 12:28:03 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 12:28:22 | linuxstb | Are you compiling the plugin and the sim at the same time, or just compiling the .rock and then copying it to your sim directory? |
| 12:28:59 | miner49er | i'm compiling the whole thing, then copying over the rock to the plugins dir. |
| 12:29:13 | miner49er | I guess I'm missing a #define or something... |
| 12:29:27 | linuxstb | You should just do "make install" after compiling the sim. |
| 12:29:56 | linuxstb | Or are you compiling for the real device, and using that .rock in the sim? |
| 12:30:44 | Zagor | back |
| 12:30:53 | midkay | Woohoo, just in time.. |
| 12:31:01 | midkay | Zagor, what email address is the password-reset thing sent to? |
| 12:31:11 | Zagor | <your username>@users.sourceforge.net |
| 12:31:22 | miner49er | no, only for the simulator. The sim works fine anf all the plugins. It's just my plugin that I added to the SOURCES list and built...doesn't seem to work on the simulator (I havn't trried on my actuall hardware yet) |
| 12:31:47 | B4gder | Zagor: we don't seem to get mailed when we change the tracker entries |
| 12:32:35 | linuxstb | miner49er: Try deleting your sim build directory, and then create a new one. Then just do ../tools/configure followed by make followed by make install. |
| 12:32:54 | midkay | Zagor, hm, it was set up for an old email but i just changed it about 15 minutes ago to my new address but i don't seem to be getting any reset email.. |
| 12:33:35 | Zagor | added notification mails |
| 12:33:43 | Zagor | they're a bit spartan yet |
| 12:33:47 | miner49er | Okay, I'll give it a go. I just ran make install though and it failed - "xargs: zip: No such file or directory" |
| 12:34:05 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 12:34:05 | B4gder | miner49er: you need zip installed |
| 12:34:12 | Jungti1234 | oops sorry |
| 12:34:16 | Zagor | midkay: hang on, I'll investigate the attachment issue first. that's #1 prio. |
| 12:34:29 | midkay | Zagor, alright.. |
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| 12:35:23 | linuxstb | That means you haven't got zip installed - it's needed for the "make install". |
| 12:36:05 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 12:36:10 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs What's this? |
| 12:36:28 | preglow | new bug tracker |
| 12:36:36 | B4gder | Zagor: please make the logo get a link to the front page |
| 12:37:20 | Jungti1234 | Can I write? |
| 12:38:06 | Jungti1234 | I can not log in. |
| 12:38:18 | midkay | that was really weird - /.rockbox/rockbox.ipod has a priority over /rockbox.ipod ? |
| 12:38:34 | midkay | accidentally copied a rockbox.ipod to the .rockbox folder and kept updating the one in root and it didn't make a difference |
| 12:38:37 | LinusN | midkay: yes it does |
| 12:38:58 | LinusN | the plan is to not have rockbox.<target> in the root in the future |
| 12:39:06 | midkay | oh, i see.. |
| 12:39:27 | LinusN | at the moment the bootloader is backwards compatible |
| 12:39:44 | LinusN | or rather forward compatible... :-) |
| 12:39:53 | midkay | haha :) makes sense :) |
| 12:39:55 | LinusN | or somoething |
| 12:39:58 | midkay | frustrating though :) |
| 12:40:17 | midkay | w/e... bedtime anyways. ;) night all.. |
| 12:40:47 | preglow | LinusN: ooh, starting with the new dir scheme, are you? |
| 12:40:52 | | Join ]RowaN[ [0] (n=54093c61@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:40:55 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:41:03 | miner49er | I've run make install and it's all copied, simulator runs but my damn plugin still says "incompatable model" |
| 12:41:03 | B4gder | Zagor: I think mailman is ignoring the mails |
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| 12:41:25 | Zagor | B4gder: ahh, of course. can you check that? it sends as bugs@rockbox.org |
| 12:41:27 | LinusN | miner49er: which plugin? |
| 12:41:35 | ]RowaN[ | using a build from last night, my fully charged iriver only lasted about 1 hour playing flac this morning.. very odd. anyone else have probs like this? |
| 12:41:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | miner49er: Did you include the PLUGIN_HEADER |
| 12:42:04 | LinusN | ]RowaN[: which target? |
| 12:42:35 | miner49er | Paul_The_Nerd: Yep, plugin.h is included |
| 12:42:35 | B4gder | Zagor: ok, and I changed the "discard" to "hold" now until verified to work |
| 12:42:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | miner49er: No, specifically the PLUGIN_HEADER macro |
| 12:42:57 | miner49er | LinusN: my asteroids plugin (still cracking away at it!) |
| 12:43:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/helloworld.c.diff?r1=1.2&r2=1.3 <−−- Like on the right, here. |
| 12:43:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Notice the green highlighted section. |
| 12:43:21 | miner49er | having a look |
| 12:43:53 | ]RowaN[ | h120 |
| 12:44:08 | miner49er | Paul_The: that looks like the problem - cheers man :-) |
| 12:44:51 | B4gder | ok, I turned the "operating system" into meaning "target model" |
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| 12:47:26 | LinusN | i think it should default to sorting newest-first |
| 12:48:00 | * | Paul_The_Nerd agrees |
| 12:49:25 | Nico | Zagor: could you put me in the devs group ? |
| 12:49:40 | Zagor | Nico: sure |
| 12:49:54 | Nico | im nicolas_p on the tracker |
| 12:50:05 | Zagor | done |
| 12:50:16 | Nico | thanks :) |
| 12:50:20 | linuxstb | How should I close a bug report on the new tracker? Do I have to add a comment (using Add Comment), then click on close, or do I just click on close? |
| 12:50:47 | Zagor | click on close, you'll get a window to write a comment in |
| 12:51:25 | linuxstb | Thanks. |
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| 12:52:19 | Lynx_ | btw, is the scrolling behaviour fixed on iriver? i think the cause was the lcd driver. |
| 12:52:48 | B4gder | you mean the "afterscroll"? |
| 12:52:55 | Paprica | Zagor, could you add me to the developers list? |
| 12:53:14 | Zagor | username? |
| 12:53:17 | Lynx_ | B4gder: yes |
| 12:53:35 | Paprica | Paprica |
| 12:53:35 | Zagor | Paprica: done |
| 12:53:40 | Paprica | 10x |
| 12:53:41 | B4gder | Lynx_: this was addressed by amiconn's recent fixes, yes |
| 12:53:52 | Lynx_ | B4gder: oh, nice, time to update then |
| 12:54:22 | Zagor | fyi: there was a bug in the attachment download code. i'm rerunning it now but it will take a while. |
| 12:54:28 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 12:54:47 | Jungti1234 | Paprica, What's this? - http://plugbox.tripod.com/ |
| 12:54:58 | Paprica | dont know |
| 12:55:10 | B4gder | the mails don't even mention the task number in the subject |
| 12:55:28 | Zagor | bwaha, the bug is because I've disabled the sourceforge trackers. how silly of me... |
| 12:56:00 | Zagor | B4gder: i know. that is one thing I do intend to patch |
| 12:56:16 | ScoTTie_ | how did you managed to copy the sf tracker stuff over ? |
| 12:56:20 | | Nick ScoTTie_ is now known as ScoTTie (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) |
| 12:57:21 | Zagor | ScoTTie: there is an xml export function in sourceforge. but it doesn't include everything, so some stuff must be spidered (such as attachments) |
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| 13:00:36 | ]RowaN[ | maybe some snow feel into my iriver =/ |
| 13:02:01 | | Part IcyStorM |
| 13:06:24 | Lynx_ | would be nice if the rockbox logo on top of the new bug tracker page linked back to rockbox.org home |
| 13:06:39 | Zagor | Lynx_: will fix soon. have to fix the broken attachments first. |
| 13:06:54 | Lynx_ | sure :) |
| 13:07:33 | | Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:07:56 | JdGordon | needleboy: some1 is saying the colour patch isnt saving the values?? have u got another patch which could intefere with it? can any1 else confirm it? |
| 13:08:04 | | Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) |
| 13:09:46 | Nico | it did save the values on my build... |
| 13:10:01 | XavierGr | Gongrats on the new bug/patch tracker. It is way better than sourceforge |
| 13:10:19 | Nico | btw JdGordon, the last patch u updated on SF was still broken... |
| 13:10:50 | JdGordon | grr.. really? |
| 13:11:30 | JdGordon | i was so careful... |
| 13:11:38 | safetydan | JdGordon, the optimised build seems to have some weird things with settings |
| 13:12:03 | safetydan | EQ goes funny after upgrades for some people, so I wouldn't be surprised if your color stuff is similarly affected |
| 13:12:59 | JdGordon | ye, i tinhk the patch needleboy merged was fubar.. the patch i updated to before i left (about 2 hours ago) should be fine.. |
| 13:14:47 | Nico | but it's malformed... |
| 13:15:03 | * | amiconn sighs |
| 13:15:08 | Nico | how do you do them ? |
| 13:15:28 | amiconn | linuxstb: It seems I won't get to work on sim grayscale tonight either. |
| 13:15:37 | | Join Shaked [0] (n=shaked@80.74.115.212) |
| 13:15:39 | B4gder | Zagor: any chance of getting an SF ID => Flyspray ID map ? quite a lot of the entries mention old style tracker numbers |
| 13:16:00 | Zagor | ah, bugger. i forgot adding that. :-( |
| 13:16:00 | amiconn | Converting overlay loader for plugin lib and adapting chessboxx instead... |
| 13:16:08 | Shaked | can some one tell me what is rockbox? |
| 13:16:13 | Shaked | im confused :S |
| 13:16:29 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:16:38 | Zagor | B4gder: I can easily make a separate a->b list though |
| 13:16:41 | B4gder | Zagor: it could be useful with a separate one anyway, since many speak of SF bug entries in the plain text. as in "this is almost like #123456" |
| 13:16:56 | petur | Shaked: it replaces the firmware on your mp3 player (if it's supported) |
| 13:17:41 | Shaked | and what it does after it? |
| 13:18:13 | petur | it tries to do tings better, and do more than the original does |
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| 13:18:29 | safetydan | Shaked, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison |
| 13:18:37 | petur | and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ#What_is_Rockbox_What_is_its_purp |
| 13:18:38 | | Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:18:57 | | Quit Nico () |
| 13:19:01 | Shaked | ty |
| 13:19:07 | * | petur notices the page he linked is a bit outdated |
| 13:19:26 | B4gder | it is |
| 13:19:52 | Lynx_ | i just updated, and rockbox asked if to reboot, play for yes, other for no, and did not reboot on pressing play (H340). |
| 13:20:10 | Lynx_ | is it also play on iriver, or navi? |
| 13:20:56 | petur | is that FAQ part of the documentation that goes into cvs or de we maintain the wiki as well? |
| 13:21:00 | safetydan | On iRiver when it says play, it means Navi |
| 13:21:06 | petur | s/de/do |
| 13:21:18 | Lynx_ | ok |
| 13:21:19 | * | safetydan does a preglow and whispers langv2 to Bagder |
| 13:21:32 | * | B4gder falls off his chair |
| 13:21:38 | preglow | safetydan: you forgot "svn" |
| 13:21:45 | * | B4gder runs |
| 13:22:05 | Lynx_ | hmm, and after the update the display seems really dark |
| 13:22:12 | Shaked | if i put that rockbox thingy in my H320 can i play games? o.0 |
| 13:22:21 | petur | yep |
| 13:22:55 | Shaked | :O |
| 13:24:47 | Shaked | bleh but it removes the warnnaty |
| 13:24:54 | Shaked | i will just wait 3 years :P |
| 13:25:01 | | Quit Shaked (".:: MP-Gaming.NET ::. .:: MP-Forums.NET ::. .:: MP-Maps.NET ::. .:: M") |
| 13:25:07 | B4gder | chicken! |
| 13:25:09 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 13:25:30 | petur | as if he would get back an H320 if it broke now :P |
| 13:25:43 | B4gder | _three_ year warranty? |
| 13:25:55 | XavierGr | is the new chess plugin supposed to work? |
| 13:26:04 | ender` | what's weird about 3 year warranty? |
| 13:26:32 | B4gder | not weird, unusual |
| 13:28:25 | ender` | not that unusual for expensive devices |
| 13:28:29 | Zagor | I hate sourceforge. |
| 13:28:32 | Zagor | there, i've said it |
| 13:28:55 | ender` | welcome to the club :) |
| 13:29:01 | B4gder | ender`: sure it is, at least around here |
| 13:29:02 | * | Paul_The_Nerd gives Zagor a complimentary pin, and welcomes him to the club. |
| 13:29:14 | B4gder | unless you pay extra of course |
| 13:29:17 | Zagor | *some* attachments work when downloaded in the browser, but not with curl |
| 13:29:24 | Zagor | how nice is that? |
| 13:29:38 | B4gder | such a lame app ;-) |
| 13:29:43 | Zagor | curl sucks :-) |
| 13:29:48 | safetydan | use wget, it's much better |
| 13:29:55 | B4gder | heheh |
| 13:30:11 | Zagor | I bet I have to do stupid user agent munging to get it working |
| 13:30:39 | ender` | alias wget="wget -t0 -c -S -U "we_get" |
| 13:31:01 | Zagor | wget makes assumptions. I don't like that. |
| 13:31:56 | ender` | what assumptions? |
| 13:32:14 | Zagor | that I want the output in a file, for one |
| 13:32:51 | Zagor | anyway, this is not the subject. we're on a SF hate-bash here. no disruptions :-) |
| 13:33:08 | ender` | -O - |
| 13:33:22 | Zagor | riiiight, SOME attachments can only be viewed when you're logged in. isn't that friendly? |
| 13:33:38 | ender` | can you stay logged in? |
| 13:33:40 | preglow | i almost always want my output in a file |
| 13:33:44 | preglow | so it's not a bad assumption |
| 13:34:09 | B4gder | it depends I'd say |
| 13:34:12 | Zagor | I nearly always want it piped into 'less' |
| 13:34:15 | B4gder | but _maybe_ I'm biased ;-) |
| 13:34:27 | linuxstb | Even binary files? |
| 13:34:35 | ender` | that's what -O - is for |
| 13:34:54 | B4gder | then consider Zagor's current login-case |
| 13:35:09 | Zagor | B4gder: don't be cruel :-) |
| 13:35:18 | B4gder | wget does actually attempt to support cookies |
| 13:36:26 | JdGordon | umm. the new patch tracker... is there a register link somewhere? or am i blind? |
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| 13:36:33 | B4gder | http://curl.haxx.se/docs/comparison-table.html |
| 13:36:57 | B4gder | heeh |
| 13:37:06 | B4gder | I can't find any "new user" link either |
| 13:37:10 | dwihno | I prefer the FreeBSD 'fetch' utility :) |
| 13:37:20 | Zagor | JdGordon: now there is :-) |
| 13:37:36 | B4gder | dwihno: it is also featured in that comparison page ;-) |
| 13:37:36 | JdGordon | :) |
| 13:37:42 | dwihno | Hey, why isn't curl linked into a single binary btw? |
| 13:37:50 | dwihno | On windows, it's a nice 1-file binary |
| 13:38:01 | dwihno | On *nix, it becomes an evil script! :( |
| 13:38:02 | JdGordon | Zagor: email isnt required? thats a bit odd isnt it? |
| 13:38:03 | B4gder | and you are talking about? |
| 13:38:09 | B4gder | dwihno: then build it so |
| 13:38:16 | B4gder | it isn't a script |
| 13:38:26 | dwihno | B4gder: it isn't? |
| 13:38:29 | Zagor | JdGordon: indeed. what happens if you don't enter it? |
| 13:38:38 | * | dwihno eats some sausage and downloads a fresh curl build |
| 13:38:41 | JdGordon | dunno.. i put in an email.. |
| 13:38:41 | dwihno | I like piping curl |
| 13:38:45 | B4gder | dwihno: no, that's only a libtool thing while building, do make install and it'll get a proper executable |
| 13:38:47 | | Join IcyStorM [0] (n=aknemyr@h29n9c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 13:38:54 | JdGordon | "There was an problem with your form submission" |
| 13:39:03 | preglow | curl beats wget straight in features, but i still use wget mostly |
| 13:39:06 | preglow | since it's faster in use |
| 13:39:21 | preglow | occasionally have to use curl for stuff wget doesn't manage |
| 13:39:30 | B4gder | whatever works is what say |
| 13:39:52 | B4gder | then again, I am a wget contributor as well |
| 13:39:53 | * | dwihno humbly thinks the default curl options should be -C - -O <url> |
| 13:39:57 | JdGordon | is flyspray "live" yet? |
| 13:40:13 | preglow | i'd just like it to save to a file per default, and not if it detects it's piped |
| 13:40:14 | dwihno | B4gder: sleeping with the enemy, are ew... ;) |
| 13:40:16 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Jabber ID'? |
| 13:40:22 | linuxstb | JdGordon: It's live, but there a few problems with missing attachments. |
| 13:40:23 | preglow | a program can detect if it has redirected stdout, yes? |
| 13:40:29 | Zagor | there, can everyone please check that all attachments that were missing are where they should? |
| 13:40:43 | B4gder | preglow: on some OSes, yes |
| 13:40:59 | Zagor | Jungti1234: that's a feature we don't use. you can get notifications via jabber instant messaging. |
| 13:41:06 | preglow | hah |
| 13:41:14 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 13:41:21 | Zagor | JdGordon: yes, it's live. until we find a showstopper bug, at least :-) |
| 13:41:28 | * | JdGordon hasnt got the account confirmation email yet... |
| 13:41:34 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I tried your latest patch from sourceforge, and it didn't apply cleanly. color/colour was inconsistent, and I had to apply the changes to lcd.h manually. |
| 13:41:45 | JdGordon | :'( |
| 13:42:00 | Jungti1234 | I can't join. |
| 13:42:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zagor: I at least don't have permission to "Modify own tasks" |
| 13:42:14 | Zagor | Jungti1234: did you read the information? |
| 13:42:22 | IcyStorM | WHere can I found rockbox on sourceforge.org |
| 13:42:31 | linuxstb | My first comment - I don't think the RGB selectors should wrap. It makes it hard to set them to the minimum or maximum values. |
| 13:42:37 | Zagor | IcyStorM: nowhere. we're off sourceforge. |
| 13:42:42 | IcyStorM | Ok.. |
| 13:42:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I agree with that wholeheartedly! |
| 13:42:44 | Zagor | Paul_The_Nerd: checking |
| 13:42:53 | Jungti1234 | Zagor: mail? |
| 13:43:08 | Zagor | Jungti1234: click the "click here for information" link |
| 13:43:12 | Jungti1234 | "Notice from Rockbox" |
| 13:43:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zagor: As a note, I'm in the Reporters group. |
| 13:43:16 | linuxstb | Also, I would prefer the R: G: B: line to be formatted as: "RGB: #XXYYZZ" |
| 13:43:31 | * | Paul_The_Nerd would agree with that as well, actually. |
| 13:43:37 | Jungti1234 | Zagor: sorry.. ok. |
| 13:43:40 | JdGordon | linuxstb: i started like that, but found it unreadable... |
| 13:43:46 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 13:43:47 | Zagor | Paul_The_Nerd: what is your username? |
| 13:43:49 | linuxstb | You also need to add entries to apps/lang/english.lang for the menu text. |
| 13:43:57 | Jungti1234 | It read already. :) |
| 13:44:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zagor: DarkkOne |
| 13:44:48 | JdGordon | shouldnt the bloody old patches and bugs be closed/deleted? |
| 13:45:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zagor: Seems Reporters should be able to modify their own tasks, unless I misunderstand the meaning of that. |
| 13:45:19 | | Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") |
| 13:46:18 | Zagor | Paul_The_Nerd: I agree. fixed. |
| 13:46:36 | B4gder | this bug tracker is just so much nicer |
| 13:46:47 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Another comment - I think the #defines you added in lcd.h should be inside the #if LCD_DEPTH == 16 condition |
| 13:46:51 | B4gder | its a joy to close reports with! ;-) |
| 13:46:55 | Zagor | :-) |
| 13:47:32 | | Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 13:47:51 | JdGordon | Zagor: any chance you could somehow merge the wiki/forum/flyspray user/pass list into 1 list for the whole site? |
| 13:48:10 | Zagor | not without a lot of work :-) |
| 13:48:11 | preglow | haha |
| 13:48:18 | Zagor | especially since the forum is hosted on another continent |
| 13:48:20 | preglow | you've got nothing to do anyway, right? |
| 13:48:26 | preglow | just get to work |
| 13:48:39 | preglow | i can't be bothered to remember any passwords! |
| 13:49:06 | * | Zagor goes looking for the mail subject line |
| 13:49:32 | B4gder | preglow: this one's saved for you http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/2507 |
| 13:49:45 | JdGordon | Zagor: 1 more thing.. can u change the deefault view to show by newest first like sf?? its a bit silly (imo) showing the stuff from 2002! |
| 13:50:04 | Zagor | I'll look into it |
| 13:50:21 | preglow | B4gder: completely forgotten about that |
| 13:50:27 | Zagor | otoh that gives you incentive to fix the old stuff :-) |
| 13:50:28 | B4gder | :-) |
| 13:51:16 | JdGordon | _and_ u cant easily tell whats a bug/patch/request.... |
| 13:51:23 | JdGordon | but tis better than sf :D |
| 13:51:29 | B4gder | "Task Type Feature Requests" |
| 13:51:47 | JdGordon | yes... but./. |
| 13:52:04 | JdGordon | then u have to look at 2 columns.. not just the summary 1 to find something interesting |
| 13:52:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | I actually like seeing everything in one list. |
| 13:52:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | And you can quickly just do a search for all "Bugs" or all "Feature requests" and then it's sorted. |
| 13:52:29 | JdGordon | no, thats good.. but having a diff colour or something would be good.. |
| 13:52:32 | JdGordon | i dunno' |
| 13:52:34 | Zagor | JdGordon: i'll fix the links on the website to point to a filtering url, so you have quicklinks to each list |
| 13:52:35 | * | JdGordon is half asleep |
| 13:52:47 | B4gder | Zagor: you need to make a nice intro mail about it to the lists too |
| 13:52:56 | Zagor | yup |
| 13:53:45 | lostlogic | linuxstb: why use "make veryclean" instead of the conventional "make distclean", or is there some conceptual difference that I'm missing? |
| 13:53:55 | B4gder | I made that |
| 13:53:56 | lostlogic | ermh that's for B4gder |
| 13:54:04 | B4gder | because distclean generally cleans even more |
| 13:54:13 | B4gder | like the autoconf.h |
| 13:54:16 | lostlogic | ah, ok |
| 13:54:40 | B4gder | and I think most people won't use that anyway, they'll just do make clean |
| 13:54:49 | lostlogic | trunuf |
| 13:56:04 | linuxstb | For JdGordon's colour settings patch, what spelling should we use for the menu entry? Being British, I obviously prefer "colour" |
| 13:56:42 | lostlogic | being american, I could care less ::shrug:: |
| 13:56:45 | JdGordon | linuxstb: i had it as colour, and LinusN "suggested" i change ti to color, so i did a search/replace on the diff (well i thought i did) |
| 13:56:55 | JdGordon | i dont care either... |
| 13:57:11 | B4gder | I think color is already used somewhat more often than colour in the project |
| 13:57:17 | slimx | linuxstb, have you seen my last patch ? |
| 13:57:29 | Bg3r | linuxstb i think it should be american because in most of the other cases it's colOR |
| 13:57:33 | linuxstb | color seems to be used in C (e.g. HAVE_LCD_COLOR), but colour/grey is used in the comments. |
| 13:57:39 | * | slimx is playing snake2 on 3G ;-) |
| 13:57:49 | B4gder | yay for slimx |
| 13:57:55 | linuxstb | slimx: I haven't looked at the patch, but read the comments - congratulations. |
| 13:57:58 | linuxstb | Any sound yet? |
| 13:57:59 | Bg3r | linuxstb hm, good point |
| 13:58:11 | slimx | i didn't tried sound |
| 13:58:17 | B4gder | haha |
| 13:58:26 | B4gder | sound in a music player? nah, that's not so important |
| 13:58:33 | linuxstb | No, as long as the games work... |
| 13:58:38 | slimx | lol B4gder |
| 13:58:47 | slimx | not for now |
| 13:58:56 | Bg3r | yeah, really, why do you need sound when you have such cool games ? |
| 13:59:08 | B4gder | sounds effects? |
| 13:59:12 | slimx | i really don't know |
| 13:59:14 | | Quit perpleXa ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:14 | slimx | oh yes i have to get the tick work |
| 14:00:14 | | Quit ]RowaN[ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 14:00:20 | Bg3r | linuxstb btw, thank you for adding chessbox to the build system... my unfinished commit raised some discussions ... |
| 14:00:27 | Jungti1234 | ¾Æ ´ä´äÇØÁ×°Ú´Ù ³ªÁ»»ì·ÁÁà¶ó |
| 14:00:49 | linuxstb | Bg3r: I read them... |
| 14:01:36 | Bg3r | yep.. |
| 14:01:54 | linuxstb | preglow: chessbox is giving me a "Data Abort at 0003EE64" on my ipod - but 3EE64 is the address of UIE... |
| 14:02:25 | JdGordon | has the banner on the left of rb.org always had the staggered links? |
| 14:02:28 | | Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-93.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 14:02:58 | JdGordon | ok, its just on the wiki page its buggered |
| 14:03:15 | preglow | linuxstb: hahaha |
| 14:03:22 | preglow | linuxstb: how far into it? |
| 14:03:33 | Zagor | JdGordon: oops, that's my fault |
| 14:03:42 | * | ashridah still thinks we should add rockbox to http://cia.navi.cx/ |
| 14:03:46 | linuxstb | As soon as you try to run it. |
| 14:04:02 | linuxstb | I think Paul_The_Nerd reported the same problem on his Nano. |
| 14:04:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, I did. |
| 14:04:37 | preglow | linuxstb: i mean the address, is it the very begining of the uie routine, or what? |
| 14:04:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Immediately upon running the plugin. Same, or similar address. |
| 14:05:05 | linuxstb | Yes, the very beginning - the .map files lists UIE as being at address 0x3ee64 |
| 14:05:29 | preglow | ... |
| 14:05:36 | preglow | i don't see how that can happen |
| 14:06:09 | linuxstb | I'm staring at my blue-screen-of-death and my map file now. They both say 0x3ee64. |
| 14:06:31 | linuxstb | But no, I don't understand either. |
| 14:07:41 | preglow | the only way that can happen is if the stack pointer becomes unaligned |
| 14:07:56 | preglow | but i don't see how that can happen, the UIE handler has its own stack |
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| 14:11:11 | preglow | man, i've had my fill of bugs i don't understand today |
| 14:11:20 | | Quit Jungti1234 () |
| 14:11:31 | JdGordon | does any1 know what needs to be done to get the alarm clock funcitonality for the h300? |
| 14:11:49 | Bg3r | JdGordon some mess with the pcf50606 ? |
| 14:11:51 | JdGordon | uni starts on monday and i would kill to use my player for my alaram instead of the radio.. |
| 14:12:29 | JdGordon | .. or do any of the iriv fw's have the alarm clock? |
| 14:12:33 | ashridah | JdGordon: where do you go to uni again? |
| 14:12:33 | preglow | you'd need to implement wakeup conditions on the pcf chip |
| 14:13:15 | Bg3r | JdGordon (iriver fw) no |
| 14:14:24 | Bg3r | JdGordon a think it isn't very difficult to be done ... |
| 14:14:40 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) |
| 14:14:49 | Bg3r | hm |
| 14:14:52 | ashridah | ah, crap, it's already passed midnight |
| 14:14:52 | JdGordon | .. just needs someone who knows what to do to get some free time |
| 14:15:05 | | Quit ashridah ("sleep damnit, gotta be in at 9:30am tomorrow ;(") |
| 14:15:09 | Bg3r | but i remember lostlogic has fried his h3x0 while messing with the pcf .... |
| 14:15:34 | petur | no, that had to do with the charger he used |
| 14:15:50 | petur | (iirc) |
| 14:16:02 | Bg3r | lostlogic ? |
| 14:16:27 | JdGordon | guess he is away.. |
| 14:16:31 | Zagor | subjects patched |
| 14:16:46 | LinusN | JdGordon: i don't care about the spelling in the translation, i meant the variables |
| 14:16:56 | JdGordon | LinusN: i know |
| 14:16:57 | B4gder | Zagor: much bettere |
| 14:17:03 | B4gder | erere |
| 14:18:27 | petur | I like the first item in the list.... |
| 14:18:51 | Cassandra | Where is this new tracker then? |
| 14:19:02 | petur | /bugs |
| 14:19:06 | linuxstb | Check the topic.... |
| 14:19:28 | Cassandra | Ah, right. |
| 14:19:40 | Cassandra | I see its email subjects have got slightly more informative. |
| 14:22:50 | preglow | doesn't sf have any webmail or what? |
| 14:24:38 | | Join webguest70 [0] (n=50b14024@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:25:25 | preglow | i see |
| 14:25:45 | Cassandra | Erm, the devcon link seems to be buggered. |
| 14:26:00 | B4gder | indeed |
| 14:26:20 | B4gder | fixed |
| 14:26:34 | * | Cassandra waits patiently for a reset mail. |
| 14:28:09 | Cassandra | Hmm - I don't think the reset script likes me. |
| 14:28:20 | petur | seems we have a rockbox chairman now... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/InnocentNdikuriyo |
| 14:28:28 | Cassandra | Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in /usr/share/flyspray/htdocs/includes/notify.inc.php on line 503 |
| 14:28:37 | B4gder | Zagor: you better remove that if($user eq "Cassandra") check in the reset script |
| 14:29:06 | preglow | just used the reset script, worked just fine |
| 14:29:09 | LinusN | petur: lol |
| 14:29:19 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 14:29:19 | Zagor | Cassandra: oops, that's me fiddling with the subject lines |
| 14:29:24 | JdGordon | oh goody.. doom just crashed :'( |
| 14:29:39 | Cassandra | My sourceforge ID is christi-s though. ;) |
| 14:29:51 | Cassandra | Some bugger had already nicked Cassandra. |
| 14:29:55 | JdGordon | changing .iriver file while it was doing the dir cache prob wasnt such a good idea :p |
| 14:29:59 | B4gder | aha! circumventing our checks |
| 14:30:01 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 14:30:15 | LinusN | better ban her ip then |
| 14:31:06 | * | Cassandra types "anonymising proxies" into google. |
| 14:31:11 | * | LinusN adds "no girlies" to docs/CONTRIBUTING |
| 14:31:40 | B4gder | hey, I'm training my daughter! ;-) |
| 14:31:48 | Cassandra | Wow! I didn't realise Calvin and Hobbes had joined the Rockbox team. ;) |
| 14:31:54 | LinusN | :-) |
| 14:33:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I04:I11Instr at 80000004 for H1x0 reported at the forums with Chessbox. |
| 14:34:26 | LinusN | Paul_The_Nerd: wow |
| 14:34:33 | LinusN | jmp MBAR |
| 14:35:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there a target it's confirmed *working* on? |
| 14:36:15 | linuxstb | When I compiled it yesterday for the ipod it worked.... |
| 14:36:47 | linuxstb | But that was with only one .c file. |
| 14:36:47 | JdGordon | does any1 have a good gbc mario rom? ov only got shite ones (i tihnk the free versions), and a b+w one |
| 14:37:26 | | Quit IcyStorM (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 14:37:32 | Bg3r | maybe i have messed something :( |
| 14:38:12 | linuxstb | Did you try it on a real device? |
| 14:38:37 | Bg3r | no... |
| 14:39:04 | Cassandra | Hmm - very odd. Zagor, according to Flyspray I've just added myself to the developers group. It also claims I'm the only person in it. |
| 14:39:23 | Zagor | scary :-) |
| 14:39:43 | Jungti1234 | Does someone use SDL simulator? |
| 14:39:58 | Zagor | (mysql being upgraded, don't panic) |
| 14:40:20 | | Quit DJ_Dooms_Day (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:40:25 | Cassandra | Ok, but I'm definitely not doing all the work. |
| 14:40:42 | | Join dunkellic [0] (n=rur@p50819FBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:40:43 | B4gder | what if we say please? |
| 14:40:53 | | Quit dunkellic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:41:10 | | Quit webguest70 ("CGI:IRC") |
| 14:41:19 | Jungti1234 | me? |
| 14:41:22 | safetydan | Jungti1234, yes |
| 14:41:26 | Cassandra | Then I won't have to hurt you. |
| 14:41:41 | JdGordon | grr.. rockboy needs to show the battery level in its satus bar... |
| 14:41:55 | Zagor | Cassandra: there are two developer groups: one global and one for the |
| 14:42:01 | Zagor | 'rockbox' subproject |
| 14:42:09 | Zagor | for some reason, you are in the rockbox group |
| 14:42:14 | Zagor | everyone else is in the global group |
| 14:42:24 | Cassandra | OK, that's kind of weird. |
| 14:42:28 | Jungti1234 | I'm just curious |
| 14:42:42 | Jungti1234 | Because wondered about it . |
| 14:42:48 | Cassandra | I seem to have Project Manager access for the Rockbox group then. |
| 14:43:04 | Cassandra | Which while I don't object to, I'm not sure I should have. |
| 14:43:24 | Zagor | Cassandra: do you have an 'admin' or 'manage' link in your top menu line? |
| 14:43:34 | Cassandra | Yes. |
| 14:43:37 | Zagor | which one? |
| 14:43:55 | Cassandra | "Manage Project" |
| 14:44:12 | Zagor | very strange |
| 14:44:20 | * | Zagor pops the hood |
| 14:44:54 | Cassandra | Zagor - maybe Flysquatter just recognises my inherent natural superiority? |
| 14:45:08 | Zagor | perhaps. who am I to argue with that? |
| 14:45:37 | JdGordon | gnite all |
| 14:45:42 | | Nick JdGordon is now known as Jd|asleep (n=JdGordon@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 14:45:48 | preglow | you're lucky she even allows you to speak to her |
| 14:46:19 | Cassandra | Well it's not as if any of you guys normally get to interact with real women. ;) |
| 14:46:27 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 14:46:41 | B4gder | now that was cruel |
| 14:46:51 | preglow | i'm still only vaguely certain about how they look |
| 14:46:55 | Cassandra | I'm good at cruel. |
| 14:46:57 | | Join dunkellic [0] (n=notreall@p50819FBB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:47:03 | Cassandra | preglow, we're the ones with the bumps in front. |
| 14:47:05 | dunkellic | hwllo |
| 14:47:14 | preglow | Cassandra: never saw one of you, then |
| 14:47:23 | dunkellic | -w +e |
| 14:47:37 | preglow | i think i'd notice bumps |
| 14:47:49 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 14:47:52 | Jungti1234 | I have question |
| 14:48:03 | muesli- | Cassandra be sure to get not "misused" while devcon ;) |
| 14:48:24 | dunkellic | is bootloader v5 for the h300 still buggy? |
| 14:48:29 | dunkellic | jo muesli |
| 14:48:29 | Cassandra | preglow, good job you're not coming to devcon then. It might be too much for you. |
| 14:48:37 | preglow | Cassandra: i still might come |
| 14:48:44 | LinusN | dunkellic: what bugs are you referring to= |
| 14:48:47 | LinusN | ? |
| 14:48:50 | Cassandra | muesli-, I'm only there to make the coffee for the real developers. |
| 14:48:58 | dunkellic | there was once a error statet when it was released |
| 14:49:01 | Zagor | oh, now I see. all developers were project managers... |
| 14:49:10 | | Nick Paul_The_Nerd is now known as Paul_the_Away (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 14:49:24 | muesli- | making cofe its the term to be used..interesting ;=) |
| 14:49:25 | Cassandra | Zagor, but I thought you said I wasn't in the global developers list. |
| 14:49:32 | dunkellic | <iobound> LinusN, no, it says "Bootloader USB" on the rockbox but the drive doesn't appear on my windows box |
| 14:49:32 | dunkellic | <LinusN> not good |
| 14:49:32 | dunkellic | <iobound> LinusN, hey, actually, i just tried once again, and now it works |
| 14:49:32 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dunkellic |
| 14:49:32 | dunkellic | <iobound> strange. i waited like 25 seconds the last time |
| 14:49:32 | dunkellic | <LinusN> iobound: there is a sleep() in the USB initiation code that might be a tad too short |
| 14:49:35 | dunkellic | that one |
| 14:49:39 | Zagor | Cassandra: you were in both |
| 14:49:43 | miner49er | does anyone know why I might not be able to make a symbolic link to my music directory inside my simulator archos directory? |
| 14:49:45 | Cassandra | Ah, right. |
| 14:49:58 | preglow | Cassandra: not every day i have a chance to be exposed to another gender! |
| 14:50:06 | dunkellic | müsli: da? |
| 14:50:15 | muesli- | yopp |
| 14:50:22 | LinusN | dunkellic: i see, well, i haven't worked on the usb bootloader mode for a while |
| 14:50:34 | dunkellic | ma ne frage. kann man v5 fürn iriver eigentlich problemlos installieren (also h300)? |
| 14:50:39 | dunkellic | kk linus |
| 14:50:51 | muesli- | sure dunkellic |
| 14:51:16 | dunkellic | muesli: kannst deutsch reden (btw, bin auf dem rockbox board von dir angemeldet ;) ) |
| 14:51:37 | Zagor | midkay: here? |
| 14:51:40 | muesli- | nah...not in this # :o |
| 14:51:44 | dunkellic | is it okay to talk german in this channel= |
| 14:51:50 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data15/2006/2/23/264/010.PNG |
| 14:52:02 | Jungti1234 | Is it normally? |
| 14:52:18 | markun | dunkellic: not really |
| 14:52:25 | linuxstb | Jungti1234: Yes. |
| 14:52:29 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 14:52:29 | muesli- | dunkellic just use english that all guys are havin fun |
| 14:52:35 | Jungti1234 | I can't set WPS and can't change font. |
| 14:52:39 | muesli- | and girls of course ;) |
| 14:53:09 | dunkellic | well, then is just ask everybod: i have some rocks, which won´t work. they say incorrect machine (only know the german error message ^^), is it because i´m still using bootloader v3? |
| 14:53:24 | LinusN | no |
| 14:53:33 | dunkellic | because i dont think that the problem is my rockbox version, i alway use the newest daily build |
| 14:53:39 | safetydan | Jungti1234, did you type "make install" after doing "make"? |
| 14:53:47 | Jungti1234 | oh! |
| 14:53:48 | Bg3r | dunkellic did you use a patched rb before ? |
| 14:53:50 | Jungti1234 | oops.. |
| 14:54:07 | dunkellic | uh, in what sense patched ^^? |
| 14:54:10 | Jungti1234 | Forgot it |
| 14:54:19 | Jungti1234 | safetydan, thanks |
| 14:54:31 | safetydan | you're welcome |
| 14:54:35 | Jungti1234 | haha..; |
| 14:55:19 | Cassandra | Zagor - any way to get it to highlight whats changed, like sourceforge does? |
| 14:55:40 | Cassandra | (in the notification emails.) |
| 14:55:45 | Zagor | I don't know, I'll look. |
| 14:56:00 | Cassandra | Thanks. |
| 14:56:59 | dunkellic | perhaps i´m just too stupid to proper install the rocks: if i have a rock that includes a .rock file and directory (hell, could be that this is the wrong word...), do i copy both of them into the rocks directory? |
| 14:58:59 | dunkellic | for example rockword features a directory with some picture files, do i copy them into the rocks directory too or go they somewhere else? |
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| 15:00:52 | muesli- | doesnt matter where ur .rock or ur related files are stored |
| 15:00:58 | Zagor | Cassandra: it seems I have to look up the history in the database, which is a little more change than I want to do right now |
| 15:02:05 | dunkellic | some idea why it won´t work then? |
| 15:02:27 | linuxstb | dunkellic: rockword isn't an official plugin - you will just have to follow any instructions the author gave you. |
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| 15:03:17 | Cassandra | Zagor, fair enough. It'd be handy if you have time at some point though. |
| 15:03:23 | Zagor | i agree |
| 15:03:44 | | Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:04:37 | linuxstb | dunkellic: Also, if the .rock file is old, it probably won't work with the latest CVS version of Rockbox. You will need to recompile it yourself. |
| 15:04:53 | petur | dunkellic: Eli hasn't updated his stuff in some time, his tetrox and other rocks are no longer compatible... he should post a patch and heve them committed |
| 15:06:11 | dunkellic | ah, kthx |
| 15:06:18 | B4gder | Eli knows that |
| 15:06:32 | B4gder | but it seems he doesn't want to |
| 15:06:35 | muesli- | btw why does plugins have to be recompiled at all? |
| 15:06:48 | B4gder | muesli-: because the plugin API changes |
| 15:06:49 | linuxstb | Because the plugin api changes over time and becomes incompatible. |
| 15:07:02 | muesli- | ok |
| 15:07:17 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 15:07:17 | * | amiconn wonders whether LinusN likes extraneous asm instructions |
| 15:07:40 | amiconn | moveq.l #0,%d0 |
| 15:07:43 | amiconn | move.l %d0,(0x180,%a1) /* PLLCR = 0 */ |
| 15:07:46 | amiconn | Why not |
| 15:07:56 | amiconn | clr.l (0x180,%a1) |
| 15:08:00 | LinusN | amiconn: oh, did i waste 4 cycles and 2 bytes? |
| 15:08:12 | LinusN | what a shame |
| 15:08:17 | B4gder | :-) |
| 15:08:28 | amiconn | I just wonder why you are writing more than needed |
| 15:08:36 | Cassandra | If this channel had walls, sarcasm would be dripping off them. |
| 15:09:19 | LinusN | amiconn: my 68k asm skills are still rutsy, and i have come accustomed to avoiding the clr instruction since the 68000 days, because of the microcode bug |
| 15:09:20 | dunkellic | lol |
| 15:09:25 | LinusN | rusty |
| 15:09:40 | Jungti1234 | nice.. |
| 15:09:50 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/2/23/260/010.PNG |
| 15:09:57 | Jungti1234 | good.. ;-) |
| 15:10:01 | Jungti1234 | thanks |
| 15:10:11 | Cassandra | Old habits dry hard, as my friend the monk used to say. |
| 15:10:34 | LinusN | "old brains are slow" in my case :-) |
| 15:11:04 | muesli- | Jungti1234 are u a macho? looks like a girl wearing an ironing board ;) |
| 15:11:19 | Jungti1234 | what is 'macho'? :) |
| 15:11:30 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 15:11:39 | Jungti1234 | yes hehe |
| 15:12:10 | Jungti1234 | (I may understand wrongly.) |
| 15:12:41 | muesli- | ask Cassandra what it means ;) |
| 15:13:02 | Cassandra | I've never really heard it used as a noun. |
| 15:13:15 | muesli- | mmh, it is in german |
| 15:13:39 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 15:13:41 | muesli- | macho man, better? |
| 15:13:42 | muesli- | ;) |
| 15:13:45 | Cassandra | Probably translates as "male chauvanist" then. |
| 15:14:10 | Jungti1234 | Strong man |
| 15:14:14 | Jungti1234 | no? |
| 15:14:17 | dunkellic | say, these otpimized builds (from misticriver) are just normal daily build with some plug ins and stuff added= |
| 15:14:18 | dunkellic | ? |
| 15:14:21 | miner49er | anyone know why the rombox.ucl that i've just build complains when I try and 'run' it? Do I need to reflash my Archos completely? |
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| 15:14:36 | preglow | dunkellic: more or less |
| 15:14:42 | preglow | dunkellic: contains some patches we don't think are ready yet |
| 15:14:47 | dunkellic | k |
| 15:14:58 | Cassandra | That would make sense. I was going for from context, since I couldn't figure out why a strong man would have a girl with an ironing board on their player. |
| 15:15:29 | Cassandra | The phrase "optimised" is slightly misleading, we feel. |
| 15:15:38 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 15:15:41 | Jungti1234 | ok bye all |
| 15:15:45 | Jungti1234 | good night |
| 15:15:45 | B4gder | indeed |
| 15:15:48 | dunkellic | why? |
| 15:15:50 | dunkellic | is it buggy? |
| 15:15:51 | | Quit Jungti1234 () |
| 15:15:56 | B4gder | it isn't optimized |
| 15:16:02 | safetydan | dunkellic, yes it can be buggy |
| 15:16:17 | miner49er | exit |
| 15:16:31 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:16:42 | Bg3r | either buggy, or not done in the way we think they should be... |
| 15:16:43 | muesli- | nah, the "optimized build" worx fine |
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| 15:16:56 | B4gder | many times, yes |
| 15:17:08 | muesli- | rather call it extended |
| 15:17:45 | B4gder | I'd rather see it called "needleboy's" build |
| 15:17:51 | muesli- | lol |
| 15:18:00 | B4gder | "extended" is also misleading |
| 15:18:14 | B4gder | "custom" could work |
| 15:18:17 | dunkellic | then i guess "modified" would fit it ;) |
| 15:19:24 | linuxstb | experimental? |
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| 15:20:18 | safetydan | One day we'll turn Rockbox in to Debian and have unstable, testing, and stable builds :) |
| 15:20:25 | B4gder | :-) |
| 15:21:16 | Cassandra | I think "H300 focused" would be a better term. |
| 15:21:31 | muesli- | hours later.. ;) |
| 15:21:39 | Cassandra | I went to make coffee. |
| 15:22:04 | dunkellic | is the usb loading thingie the only difference between the bootloader v3 and v5? |
| 15:22:23 | miner49er | can anyone tell me why I can't reflash using my newly built rombox.ucl? |
| 15:23:03 | linuxstb | What error message do you get? |
| 15:24:20 | miner49er | linuxstb: I get "incompatable model" |
| 15:26:27 | Cassandra | Sounds like you built it for the wrong target. |
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| 15:27:22 | linuxstb_ | Are you running the latest Rockbox when attempting to flash? i.e. rolo the ajbrec.ajz/archos.mod file that goes with your rombox.ucl. |
| 15:27:29 | miner49er | Cassandra: But the ajz file worked fine |
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| 15:27:54 | miner49er | linuxstb: yes, I checked that. |
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| 15:28:07 | Cassandra | miner49er, check that your .ucl file doesn't just contain a short text message. |
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| 15:28:27 | Cassandra | I seem to remember the build doesn't work without a patched uclpack or something. |
| 15:28:32 | miner49er | okay... |
| 15:28:37 | amiconn | miner49er: Seems like you didn't install the complete build, meaning rockbox_flash.rock won't load |
| 15:28:45 | amiconn | ..because it's incompatible |
| 15:28:47 | B4gder | uclpack is part of the rockbox source package these days |
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| 15:29:00 | Cassandra | B4gder, good point. |
| 15:29:15 | miner49er | checked it, vi rombox.ucl and I can random binary type stuff |
| 15:29:32 | Cassandra | What is a BHSPit and why does it need lappys? |
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| 15:29:50 | Cassandra | miner49er, then amicons suggestion is probably the correct one. |
| 15:30:06 | Cassandra | Come to think of it, what's a Lappy? |
| 15:30:23 | miner49er | no rockbox_flash.rock runs but asks me to click on a UCL file...so the binary works. |
| 15:30:24 | dunkellic | thanks for your help ppl, cya |
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| 15:30:55 | | Quit dunkellic () |
| 15:31:56 | miner49er | ...any more ideas? |
| 15:32:21 | Cassandra | God hates you. Pray for forgiveness. |
| 15:32:36 | miner49er | that may well be true... |
| 15:33:02 | Cassandra | I'd be inclined to wipe the build directory, rerun configure, and rebuild. |
| 15:33:55 | Paprica | where RGB_UNPACK_BLUE is locate? |
| 15:34:19 | Cassandra | paprica - no idea, but rgrep is your friend. |
| 15:34:31 | Cassandra | (or grep -r if you prefer it that way.) |
| 15:34:32 | Paprica | rgrep? |
| 15:34:48 | miner49er | Right, I've got some mighty weird stuff going on. I can't open .jpg files directly as it comes up with "incompatable model" but if I run the JPEG.rock directly it runs but just asks for a file... |
| 15:34:49 | Paprica | $ rgrep |
| 15:34:49 | Paprica | bash: rgrep: command not found |
| 15:34:53 | Cassandra | greps over an entire directory tree - recursive grep. |
| 15:35:06 | B4gder | find . -name "*.h" | xargs grep RGB_UNPACK_BLUE |
| 15:35:17 | Paprica | 10x |
| 15:35:22 | Cassandra | That'll work too. |
| 15:35:30 | B4gder | find is cooler ;-) |
| 15:36:06 | Paprica | lol, didn't find nothing |
| 15:36:13 | Cassandra | It's certainly harder to understand, so there's less danger of someone not being in awe of your l33t UNIX skills. ;) |
| 15:36:24 | B4gder | hehe |
| 15:36:57 | Paprica | blah |
| 15:41:02 | miner49er | Okay, I give up. I have noticed some strange things with this thing since I moved to linux. So I'm going to re-format the damn thing. How do I do this in linux? |
| 15:42:00 | B4gder | mkfs |
| 15:43:34 | miner49er | just like any other HD then |
| 15:43:46 | B4gder | yes, just make it vfat |
| 15:44:43 | miner49er | oh, one other thing was why doesn't make install seem to work for me? It works for the simulator but not the full thing |
| 15:45:01 | B4gder | use make zip for target |
| 15:45:12 | miner49er | right, cool, cheers |
| 15:50:34 | Bg3r | lostlogic 10q for the cvsutils ;) |
| 15:53:09 | lostlogic | Bg3r: np −− before you gave me CVS commit access I was wishing I had them on Gentoo, but then I got commit so it didn't matter... which was rather selfish of me, they needed to be there. |
| 15:54:46 | Bg3r | hehe :) |
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| 15:57:14 | Zagor | flyspray default sorting changed |
| 15:57:43 | safetydan | preglow, cutoff only goes to 0x80000000? |
| 15:57:53 | safetydan | looks like I need to change some code then |
| 15:58:20 | preglow | safetydan: no |
| 15:58:23 | preglow | safetydan: it should all be fine |
| 15:58:39 | preglow | you calculate cutoff like 0xffffffff/sfreq*cutoff, yes? |
| 15:58:45 | safetydan | yeah |
| 15:58:47 | preglow | then you're fine |
| 15:58:49 | safetydan | righto |
| 15:58:57 | preglow | that'll yield 0x7fffffff as max |
| 15:59:38 | safetydan | 0xffffffff / NATIVE_FREQUENCY * (x) |
| 15:59:43 | safetydan | is the exact calculation |
| 15:59:46 | preglow | yes |
| 15:59:57 | safetydan | right, I'll leave it alone then |
| 15:59:57 | preglow | like i said, cutoff should never be higher than sfreq/2 |
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| 16:01:59 | Jungti1234lBirth | hehe |
| 16:02:15 | Jungti1234lBirth | today is my birthday |
| 16:02:25 | Mikachu | happy birthday \(^o^)/ |
| 16:02:32 | markun | happy birthday Jungti! |
| 16:02:36 | markun | completely forgot about it |
| 16:02:42 | Paprica | happy birthday |
| 16:02:43 | Jungti1234lBirth | :) thanks! |
| 16:02:43 | preglow | happy bday! |
| 16:02:49 | Bg3r | ah, happy, Jungti1234lBirth ; |
| 16:02:52 | Bg3r | ;) |
| 16:03:05 | muesli- | how old got u, 1234`? ;) |
| 16:03:09 | Jungti1234lBirth | um.. |
| 16:03:10 | markun | felicxan naskigxtagon :) |
| 16:03:17 | Jungti1234lBirth | haha markun.. :) |
| 16:03:19 | safetydan | 0x1FFFFFFFE is the result of using 44100 as the native frequency and 22050 as the cutoff... |
| 16:03:29 | Jungti1234lBirth | muesli-: um... 16? 15? |
| 16:03:52 | safetydan | happy birthday Jungti |
| 16:03:56 | Paprica | mmm |
| 16:04:07 | preglow | safetydan: sounds unlikely... |
| 16:04:08 | Paprica | how can i get the r,g,b values after i do LCD_RGBPACK(255,128,64) |
| 16:04:09 | Paprica | ? |
| 16:04:09 | Jungti1234lBirth | thank you, safetydan |
| 16:04:23 | preglow | safetydan: try again |
| 16:05:58 | Paprica | ? |
| 16:05:59 | Paprica | =\ |
| 16:06:48 | miner49er | hhmm, very strange. re-formatted, re-installed RB and now stuff works fine again. I think XP might have screwed it up when I let it do a disk scan on boot up...damn Microsaft |
| 16:07:31 | petur | yeah, always easy to blame M$.... |
| 16:07:50 | B4gder | I heard M$ created H5N1 too |
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| 16:07:54 | preglow | i love the fact that you in gnome calc _HAVE_ to push in hex digits with the bloody mouse |
| 16:08:07 | B4gder | use bc ;-) |
| 16:08:10 | Mikachu | why would any sane person even start gnome calc? |
| 16:08:24 | B4gder | I do all my calcs in bc |
| 16:08:51 | lostlogic | B4gder: I have problems with ibase and obase in bc sometimes, where it'll give me weird 2 digit pairs instead of normal output when obase is 16 sometimes |
| 16:08:55 | lostlogic | any idea what that's about? |
| 16:09:06 | B4gder | no, I've never seen anything like that |
| 16:10:21 | Jungti1234lBirth | bye |
| 16:10:40 | miner49er | heh. No, it's true about MS knackering my archos, as after the scan the .rockbox dir showed up as ROCKBOX~1 or summit for a while, but strangely rockbox still worked and after a while it turned back into .rockbox. Okay, it could be that I mounted it on debian that caused a problem as well.. |
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| 16:14:34 | safetydan | preglow, I'll just trust you... none of my calculators seem to give a sensible answer |
| 16:14:37 | preglow | B4gder: how do i make bc use hex? |
| 16:14:50 | B4gder | yes, obase=16 ibase=16 |
| 16:14:58 | preglow | how convenient |
| 16:15:06 | safetydan | http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=0xffffffff+*+0xAC44+%2F+0x5622+in+hex |
| 16:15:13 | B4gder | and scale=[num] is useful too |
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| 16:15:49 | preglow | safetydan: that's not the correct calculation..... |
| 16:15:52 | B4gder | bc can even do loops and functions and... |
| 16:16:10 | preglow | safetydan: you're multiplying when you should divide, and vice versa |
| 16:16:31 | preglow | B4gder: and floating point?= |
| 16:16:33 | B4gder | yes |
| 16:16:37 | preglow | yes, how |
| 16:16:41 | safetydan | preglow, oh bah |
| 16:16:42 | B4gder | scale=4 |
| 16:16:46 | safetydan | that's why it doesn't work |
| 16:17:03 | B4gder | or whatever precision you want |
| 16:17:47 | safetydan | Can I take back my last... oh about 10 lines? |
| 16:17:53 | preglow | no! |
| 16:17:56 | B4gder | hehe |
| 16:18:01 | B4gder | that'll cost you a lot ;-) |
| 16:19:18 | safetydan | I think we've all learnt a valuable lesson. Don't listen to me when it comes to those math thingies. |
| 16:20:32 | B4gder | Zagor: could there be a problem with mails for newly submitted bugs? I just saw a new bug in the list but haven't seen any mail about it |
| 16:20:52 | Zagor | hmm |
| 16:20:57 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4715 |
| 16:22:24 | Bg3r | B4gder yep :( |
| 16:23:16 | Bg3r | me and linuxstb can't see anything obvious for now ... |
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| 16:24:00 | Bg3r | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3056 <= this is the original patch |
| 16:24:53 | Mikachu | you migrated from the sf tracker? |
| 16:24:55 | B4gder | I closed a bug report now to see if we get mails at all |
| 16:24:57 | dwihno | Ik heb honger. |
| 16:24:59 | Zagor | Mikachu: yes |
| 16:25:01 | Mikachu | ah |
| 16:25:34 | Zagor | B4gder: I can't find any error message anywhere. did you get one in the browser? |
| 16:25:39 | B4gder | no |
| 16:25:57 | Bg3r | wow, double click refreshes the page in flyspray:) |
| 16:25:59 | petur | dwihno: go eat something then ;) |
| 16:26:02 | B4gder | there's just no mail in my tracker mailbox |
| 16:26:10 | Zagor | Bg3r: actually it goes into "edit" |
| 16:26:19 | Zagor | if you're already there it goes there again :-) |
| 16:26:24 | Bg3r | ah, yes |
| 16:26:33 | Nico | how do file attachements work on this new tracker ? the only way i see for addind a new one is posting it with a comment... |
| 16:26:35 | Zagor | actually it doesn't go there again |
| 16:26:55 | Zagor | Nico: yes, if you're posting to an old task |
| 16:27:18 | Nico | old being imported from SF ? |
| 16:27:24 | Zagor | old being "existing" |
| 16:27:50 | Nico | ok |
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| 16:28:46 | Nico | and what about displaying the latest comment at the top ? |
| 16:28:48 | Nico | like SF did.. |
| 16:28:58 | B4gder | noooo |
| 16:29:05 | Zagor | i prefer it this way |
| 16:29:06 | Nico | you don't like it ? :-p |
| 16:29:13 | B4gder | cronological makes better sense imho |
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| 16:29:44 | Nico | ok i'll get used to it that way then :) |
| 16:29:50 | B4gder | hehe |
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| 16:30:47 | B4gder | ok, I got my close mail now |
| 16:31:05 | LinusN | got it too |
| 16:31:09 | Zagor | phew |
| 16:31:21 | B4gder | but not the new bugs |
| 16:32:21 | Nico | you've removed the list of who's monitoring a task ? |
| 16:32:27 | B4gder | 4715 was submitted a good while before my close of 3027 |
| 16:33:20 | godzirra | Howdy folks. Anyone know where I can get some wps files for an ipod video? |
| 16:33:32 | godzirra | I looked at the H340 sites and found some nice ones, but they dont match up to the screen sizes right. |
| 16:33:37 | Zagor | Nico: you mean from sourceforge? |
| 16:34:01 | Nico | Zagor: no, from flyspray |
| 16:34:07 | B4gder | godzirra: I think your best bet is getting a h3x0 one and adjusting it yourself |
| 16:34:22 | Nico | i could see a list of persons monitoring a task before... now i can't see it |
| 16:34:46 | Zagor | are you sure they are monitoring? example? |
| 16:35:07 | petur | because all devs were admin initally? |
| 16:35:32 | Zagor | petur: ah, that could be it yes |
| 16:36:08 | Nico | example: my album art patch... i could see me and needleboy were monitoring it |
| 16:36:16 | preglow | LinusN: what, you too have started to go completely ipl on your constants? |
| 16:36:18 | Nico | there was a list |
| 16:36:36 | Zagor | Nico: ok then petur is right. I still see it, being admin. |
| 16:36:40 | Nico | but i think petur is right |
| 16:36:43 | Nico | ok |
| 16:36:58 | Mikachu | sf doesn't get the world record in forwarding mail quickly... |
| 16:37:07 | LinusN | preglow: ? |
| 16:37:38 | Zagor | Mikachu: what is your username? I just got a bounce from sourceforge for 'mikaelh' |
| 16:37:46 | Mikachu | hm, strange |
| 16:37:53 | preglow | LinusN: literal constant addresses all over your new commit :) |
| 16:37:54 | Zagor | is that you? |
| 16:37:55 | Mikachu | Login Name: mikaelh |
| 16:38:00 | Mikachu | Mail sent to mikaelh@users.sourceforge.net (your mail alias) will be forwarded to the email address shown above. |
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| 16:38:14 | Zagor | 550-This @users.sourceforge.net account doesn't exist or isn't currently available |
| 16:38:45 | Mikachu | i'm looking at the profile page now... |
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| 16:38:50 | Mikachu | i also didn't get the mail i sent myself though |
| 16:39:25 | LinusN | preglow: aha |
| 16:39:31 | godzirra | B4gder: thats what I was afraid of. I'm so not a graphics person. Is there any way to view the wps on your computer before copying it to the ipod? |
| 16:39:42 | LinusN | i guess you mean lcd_init()? |
| 16:39:50 | Zagor | hmm, it seems new bugs are sent to "category owner", not the global notice list. exploring... |
| 16:40:04 | preglow | i guess i do |
| 16:40:09 | preglow | deleted the commit mail already |
| 16:40:23 | LinusN | i ripped the lcd settings from the original fw |
| 16:40:38 | LinusN | and i wanted to commit the damn thing before i started to dissect the settings |
| 16:40:54 | Mikachu | godzirra: use a simulator |
| 16:42:01 | preglow | hehe |
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| 16:46:12 | preglow | B4gder: using the ibase/obase thing, bc just starts spitting zeroes |
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| 16:46:17 | godzirra | Mikachu: where can I get one? |
| 16:46:37 | preglow | ahahaha |
| 16:46:42 | preglow | it doesn't understand lowercase digits? |
| 16:46:59 | Mikachu | maybe you need a hexlock key |
| 16:47:14 | Mikachu | godzirra: it's somewhere in rockbox cvs, dunno if there are precompiled binaries? |
| 16:47:36 | godzirra | Hrm. |
| 16:47:40 | godzirra | Crud. |
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| 16:48:08 | preglow | sweet god |
| 16:48:11 | preglow | bc is unusable |
| 16:48:15 | preglow | bloody enthusiast calculator |
| 16:48:21 | B4gder | hah |
| 16:48:27 | B4gder | you're just too lame for it ;-) |
| 16:48:29 | Mikachu | i use 'calc' for small stuff |
| 16:48:34 | Mikachu | or the shell :) |
| 16:48:40 | petur | B4gder: as the sims get build anyway, maybe they should get offered for download as well? |
| 16:48:44 | preglow | one hex number - another hex number = something completely wrong |
| 16:48:53 | preglow | not even bloody written in hex |
| 16:48:57 | B4gder | then you messed up |
| 16:49:02 | preglow | i'd like my bloody hex output to use hex |
| 16:49:04 | Zagor | preglow: did you forget to set both ibase and obase? and in the correct order? |
| 16:49:05 | B4gder | like gave the obase after changing ibase |
| 16:49:05 | preglow | not decimal |
| 16:49:08 | preglow | i set them both |
| 16:49:20 | Zagor | obase first, I hope :-) |
| 16:49:37 | preglow | why does it order matter.... |
| 16:49:37 | Mikachu | or obase=10 after |
| 16:49:46 | Zagor | preglow: because if you set ibase first |
| 16:49:50 | B4gder | petur: true, but I don't know how good they are for running |
| 16:49:55 | Zagor | your obase command will take hex input |
| 16:50:09 | preglow | obase=10 -> better |
| 16:50:14 | preglow | then it at least spits out hex |
| 16:50:29 | preglow | but i'd just like something that understand good old 0x |
| 16:50:38 | Zagor | write one ;-) |
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| 16:50:43 | * | Zagor ducks |
| 16:50:44 | Mikachu | calc does that |
| 16:50:45 | B4gder | M-x calc ;-) |
| 16:50:45 | preglow | and doesn't have to be beaten about the head with a crowbar to work |
| 16:50:56 | preglow | i already have written one, but it vanished in a crash :/ |
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| 16:51:51 | Mikachu | http://www.isthe.com/chongo/tech/comp/calc/ |
| 16:52:02 | Zagor | Mikachu: got another bounce |
| 16:52:11 | Mikachu | yeah i tried twice before |
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| 16:58:02 | Zagor | ok, new tasks are sent to "category owner". I haven't found yet where to change that. |
| 16:58:22 | Zagor | see you later |
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| 17:02:10 | godzirra | Mikachu: to compile it for a windows box I'd have to setup cvs on windows right? I'm not strong in cross platform compiling. |
| 17:02:18 | godzirra | does anyone have a version of the simulator for windows compiled? |
| 17:06:12 | godzirra | Anyone? lol |
| 17:07:17 | godzirra | Actually a better question, does the simulator support the ipod? |
| 17:07:19 | godzirra | video |
| 17:07:47 | petur | all targets have a sim |
| 17:07:52 | godzirra | ok, just curious. |
| 17:08:10 | petur | can't build you one now, am not at my home dev pc |
| 17:08:21 | godzirra | I think I found one on one of the rockbox pages |
| 17:08:23 | godzirra | built the 17th. |
| 17:09:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's actually a good idea to set up a cygwin environment and build your own simulator for a few reasons. |
| 17:10:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | One of the biggest ones is the fact that as features change, it will be much easier to just update, and rebuild, and your new simulator will then support them. |
| 17:12:54 | godzirra | Is there a howto anywhere that says how to set that all up? |
| 17:13:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment then http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS |
| 17:14:10 | godzirra | Awesome. Thanks Paul. |
| 17:14:21 | Mikachu | i can almost crosscompile for windows but i get an undefined reference to WinMain@16 so no luck |
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| 17:15:14 | Mmmm | petur, you there? |
| 17:15:30 | petur | yup |
| 17:16:18 | Mmmm | See my reason in the forum? and paulheu and mlind? :) |
| 17:16:34 | petur | not yet |
| 17:16:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:16:53 | Mmmm | it seems popular! heh.. |
| 17:17:43 | Mmmm | although mlind's reason leaves a lot to be desired! :D |
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| 17:17:57 | petur | allright, I'll change it ;) |
| 17:18:38 | Mmmm | Great! :) |
| 17:19:37 | Mmmm | took me a while to work out what was going on at first because I always tested the cliplight without recording..I thought you had broken it! as if you would eh? |
| 17:20:39 | petur | will try to find a solution that also works for this case, not sure if !playing is a good choice. |
| 17:21:06 | petur | as a quick hack it is, but as permanent solution? |
| 17:22:45 | Mmmm | When I did it it was out of desperation because I couldn't think of any other way to differentiate between the recording screen and the WPS screen.. |
| 17:23:35 | petur | there's no clean way to detect what screen you're looking at I think... |
| 17:23:40 | Mmmm | hmmmm |
| 17:23:51 | petur | mmmm? |
| 17:23:56 | petur | :P |
| 17:24:08 | Mmmm | he heh... :D |
| 17:28:41 | Mmmm | You could pass a boolean from recording.c ....but that would be messy too |
| 17:29:31 | Matze41 | oeh is it already known that http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html is 404 atm? |
| 17:29:46 | petur | Mmmm: will see if I get the time to look at it tonight... |
| 17:30:37 | amiconn | LinusN: Quick speedup hint for the x5 lcd driver: make the lookup tables (static) const short ... ICONST_ATTR |
| 17:30:39 | * | petur notices Linus is quite active atm |
| 17:31:04 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, thx |
| 17:31:19 | amiconn | Also, the lcd_write_data will most probably benefit from some asm, |
| 17:31:26 | amiconn | including the burst mem read |
| 17:32:35 | LinusN | absolutely |
| 17:32:55 | LinusN | i'm concentrating on getting the functionality first |
| 17:33:01 | amiconn | yes of course |
| 17:33:18 | preglow | premature optimisation == good fun |
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| 17:44:11 | kkurbjun | LinusN: I'm interested in getting doom committed to cvs if you have any pointers on what you would like completed before this can happen |
| 17:44:24 | kkurbjun | they would be appreciated |
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| 17:45:15 | kkurbjun | : ), oops |
| 17:45:23 | kkurbjun | didn't see that |
| 17:45:50 | godzirra | Hrm |
| 17:45:54 | godzirra | I was looking through the plugins |
| 17:45:57 | godzirra | how do I get -out- of snake :p |
| 17:46:00 | lostlogic | preglow: what's wrong with coding the ASM version first? :-D |
| 17:46:24 | Mikachu | godzirra: menu+select probably |
| 17:46:25 | safetydan | kkurbjun, probably the first thing to do is make sure it compiles without warnings on all targets |
| 17:46:41 | safetydan | or at least doesn't compile on unsupported targets |
| 17:47:08 | godzirra | menu select didnt work :) |
| 17:47:15 | godzirra | wait yeah it did.. just took a second. |
| 17:47:16 | godzirra | thanks Mikachu |
| 17:48:08 | kkurbjun | safetydan: Yeah, I was going to get rid of the last few today |
| 17:48:32 | preglow | lostlogic: exactly! |
| 17:49:04 | godzirra | So is rockbox on the ipod video supposed to reset everytime you plug it into the usb cable? (Whcih incidentally resets it to the default wps every time) |
| 17:50:24 | preglow | you should save your config first |
| 17:50:35 | preglow | rockbox on all ipods do that |
| 17:50:54 | preglow | and is likely to continue to do so for quite some time to come |
| 17:51:20 | yeahx | does it? |
| 17:51:28 | godzirra | preglow: So if I save my config that loads it automatically? Or just lets me load it easier? |
| 17:51:56 | preglow | godzirra: by saving your config i mean just shutting down normally once |
| 17:52:06 | Kingstone | is the re of rockbox based on iPL or it's totaly their own work? |
| 17:52:12 | Kingstone | on the ipod i mean |
| 17:52:17 | preglow | godzirra: rockbox is based on ipl, yes |
| 17:52:21 | preglow | godzirra: the ipod code, that is |
| 17:52:25 | preglow | eh |
| 17:52:25 | preglow | Kingstone: |
| 17:53:04 | Kingstone | and what is the environment of it? |
| 17:53:05 | godzirra | preglow: That answers only part of my question ;) If I shutdown normally once, next time it reboots by plugging in the usb cable, will it load my config automatically? Or will I still have to load it manually each time? |
| 17:53:14 | Kingstone | like in iPL it's uCLinux |
| 17:53:53 | preglow | godzirra: automatically, that's the whole point of shutting down |
| 17:53:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kingstone: Rockbox's kernel is completely itself. Only the hardware drivers were adapted from iPodLinux |
| 17:54:37 | Kingstone | you've built all the memory management and everything? |
| 17:54:40 | godzirra | Ok, and how do you shutdown "normally"? |
| 17:54:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: When you shut down normally, your settings are written to the config sector. They'll be read from there every time you boot, and written every time you shut down normally. A reboot from plugging in USB doesn't write them, but they're not cleared either. |
| 17:54:49 | godzirra | Gotcha. |
| 17:54:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: To shut down normally, hold play/pause. |
| 17:54:59 | preglow | Kingstone: everything |
| 17:55:56 | preglow | Kingstone: but our kernel is also tons more minimalist than linux, but that's a good thing when it comes to embedded code, if you ask me |
| 17:56:04 | Mikachu | godzirra: or wait the timeout you set in the settings |
| 17:56:50 | Kingstone | as of efficiency it is |
| 17:57:03 | Kingstone | as long as you can implement everything it's superb ;) |
| 17:57:31 | Mikachu | they're not flushed on a timer? |
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| 18:05:59 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: What's the status of Doom on the ipods? |
| 18:06:05 | godzirra | GOtcha. |
| 18:06:15 | godzirra | I'm trying to follow the instructions to build the uisimulator, and I'm having some trouble. |
| 18:06:21 | godzirra | I've got cygwin setup, and rockbox-devel checked out. |
| 18:06:39 | godzirra | I cd into rockbox-devel, then mkdir build-dir and cd into that |
| 18:06:44 | Mikachu | are you compilign the sdl version? i hear the windows one doesn't work |
| 18:06:53 | godzirra | After that I run ../tools/configure and answer that I want the ipod video, simulator, and sdl version |
| 18:07:01 | godzirra | according to the docs after that I should just have to run make |
| 18:07:06 | godzirra | but there's nothing in the build-dir I created... |
| 18:07:06 | preglow | correct |
| 18:07:08 | linuxstb_ | The video sim isn't working. |
| 18:07:15 | Mikachu | i got a missing .bmp when i tried |
| 18:07:17 | godzirra | crap. |
| 18:07:25 | godzirra | I just asked that and someone told me the sim was available for all platforms. |
| 18:07:43 | safetydan | Have we got anywhere with getting a picture of the iPod Video for the sim? |
| 18:07:52 | godzirra | I just want a wps file for my ipod video lol |
| 18:07:56 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: Paul_The_Nerd was trying to get it to run, it's still giving data aborts. we know what structure is causeing it, it's also the only one that's different from idoom, and I think it's an alignment issue, but I'm not very familiar with the subject |
| 18:08:03 | Mikachu | didn't that guy take a photo the other day? |
| 18:08:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | And neither am I. =/ |
| 18:08:32 | linuxstb_ | Yes, I've got an image that can be used for the 5g sim, I just haven't got around to doing it yet. |
| 18:08:33 | preglow | it's almost certainly an alignment issue |
| 18:08:39 | preglow | if data abort is any indication |
| 18:09:08 | safetydan | godzirra, just do this "cp uisimulator/sdl/UI-ipodnano.bmp uisimulator/sdl/UI-ipodvideo.bmp" |
| 18:09:13 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: I read your question about getting it committed to CVS - does it still require the plugin buffer to be enlarged? |
| 18:09:31 | safetydan | godzirra, it's a hack and the background won't be correct, but the sim will then compile |
| 18:09:40 | godzirra | safetydan: will that work? The nano and video have vastly different screens... I'm just making the sim to test wps files. |
| 18:09:44 | linuxstb_ | By default, the sim doesn't display the background anyway. |
| 18:09:54 | safetydan | godzirra, yes, the simulator doesn't actually use the background unless you ask it to |
| 18:10:03 | kkurbjun | I could revert the changes I made, but it is a pretty big performance improvement, so I'd like to see if it can be fixed.. yes, I was going to see how low -Os brought me. On the H300 I have a buffer size of F0000 right now |
| 18:10:04 | godzirra | ok. So when I run configure I should use the nano config? |
| 18:10:19 | godzirra | Because when I choose the video no files get copied into my build directory at all. |
| 18:10:20 | | Part petur |
| 18:12:39 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: if I can't get the size down - I was going to try and see if I could get it at least to what rockboy used to bump it to - I guess the only alternative is a loader ala rockboy on archos. Amiconn did that, but I don't really understand the details of it. |
| 18:12:51 | godzirra | Nevermind..I see what happens. It doesnt tell you to drop down out of your build-dir before running make. |
| 18:13:10 | Mikachu | you shouldn't either |
| 18:13:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: You run make in the build dir. |
| 18:14:21 | godzirra | There's nothing at all in my build directory. |
| 18:14:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: If you just do the cp that safetydan suggested in rockbox-devel/ and then do a make for 5g/video it should work |
| 18:14:27 | godzirra | it creates the make file in my root directory of my cvs install. |
| 18:14:36 | Mikachu | then you ran configure in a strange way |
| 18:14:40 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: I think amiconn mentioned earlier today that he was planning on moving his rockboy overlay magic into the plugin lib - so it can be used for the new chess plugin. It could probably then be used for Doom as well. |
| 18:14:50 | godzirra | I dont think so... but I'll clear it all and try it again. |
| 18:15:02 | Mikachu | i noticed when i tried chess that it sits and thinks for a good while and doesn't let you abort |
| 18:15:25 | safetydan | godzirra, the sequence is something like |
| 18:15:27 | kkurbjun | that would be great then |
| 18:15:29 | safetydan | cvs co rockbox-devel |
| 18:15:32 | safetydan | cd rockbox-devel |
| 18:15:35 | safetydan | mkdir build-sim |
| 18:15:37 | safetydan | cd build-sim |
| 18:15:39 | safetydan | ../tools/configure |
| 18:15:42 | safetydan | <make choice> |
| 18:15:44 | safetydan | make |
| 18:16:02 | * | safetydan is probably going to get the "Most times talked to self" award on the IRC stats page |
| 18:16:04 | linuxstb_ | make install |
| 18:16:22 | godzirra | safetydan: I know.. thats what I did. I'm trying it again from checkout to see if I messed up a step somewhere. |
| 18:16:30 | godzirra | cygwin had a space in my home directory which I think may have caused some sort of issues. |
| 18:17:03 | kkurbjun | Paul_The_Nerd: how many warnings were you getting on your compile? |
| 18:17:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | kkurbjun: I don't know exactly. Greater than 10, at least. |
| 18:17:57 | kkurbjun | Paul: also, have you tried any other compiler flags (-O -O1...) |
| 18:18:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, I have not. |
| 18:18:14 | Mikachu | i'm pretty sure O means O1 |
| 18:18:51 | kkurbjun | -O3 might be a bit high, I don't know what exactly the compiler is doing to that struct, but it might be worth a try to try some others |
| 18:19:18 | linuxstb_ | It's also worth noting that we're using gcc 4 for ARM - so that will give more/different warnings. |
| 18:19:31 | Mikachu | hm, i'm using 3.4.3 |
| 18:19:35 | kkurbjun | ahh, I didn't realize that |
| 18:19:37 | safetydan | Anyone going to try and make doom work with grayscale lib on the H1xx? :) |
| 18:20:05 | preglow | safetydan: of course someone are |
| 18:20:20 | preglow | i'm already waiting for amiconn to port it to archoses |
| 18:20:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: You should be using 4 for compiling for iPods. |
| 18:20:26 | linuxstb_ | Mikachu: The "official" compiler is gcc 4 - that's what's used for the official builds. We had some odd problems with gcc 3.4.x |
| 18:20:31 | Mikachu | okay |
| 18:20:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | "odd" |
| 18:20:41 | Mikachu | i just had an old chain lying around and i was lazy |
| 18:21:06 | Mikachu | probably from iPL |
| 18:21:11 | linuxstb_ | Paul_The_Nerd: Weren't you the person that discovered the bootloader worked with 4.0, and not 3.4.x ? |
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| 18:21:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 18:22:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | After about being ready to chuck my laptop out a window. |
| 18:23:45 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: Where would I download your latest Doom patch? Is it on the new bug tracker? |
| 18:24:13 | kkurbjun | yeah, it's on alamode.mines.edu/~kkurbjun/doomnew.zip |
| 18:24:19 | kkurbjun | there's a new cvs diff also |
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| 18:25:07 | amiconn | kkurbjun: How big is the doom.rock (iriver), and how much does .bss add to it |
| 18:25:08 | amiconn | ? |
| 18:25:37 | amiconn | If it's already quite big, porting it to archos might make little sense |
| 18:25:48 | preglow | there's also the wads... |
| 18:25:48 | kkurbjun | doom.rock is 435 Kb |
| 18:26:06 | amiconn | Afaik, doom does its own memory management, but it needs a certain minimum depending on the .wad |
| 18:26:08 | preglow | ouch, so you have to increase the plugin buffer size? |
| 18:26:19 | kkurbjun | I'm not sure how much the .bss section adds, how do I check that |
| 18:26:21 | godzirra | Hrm. Where the heck did it install rockboxui |
| 18:26:22 | linuxstb_ | Yes - that's why I mentioned the overlay. |
| 18:26:30 | amiconn | kkurbjun: check the .map file |
| 18:26:31 | kkurbjun | yeah, I have the plugin buffer up to F0000 |
| 18:26:37 | godzirra | ah found it. |
| 18:26:49 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: Look for plugin_start and plugin_end in the build-dir/apps/plugins/doom/doom.map file |
| 18:26:58 | linuxstb_ | (or something like those names...) |
| 18:27:01 | amiconn | linuxstb: Even with the overlay magic there might not be enough memory on archos |
| 18:27:19 | linuxstb_ | No - I was thinking of using the overlay magic on iriver/ipod |
| 18:27:31 | kkurbjun | .bss 0x32f7cbd4 0x6b758 |
| 18:27:51 | kkurbjun | doom I think needs 6 mb for it's own memory management |
| 18:27:59 | preglow | ouchouch |
| 18:28:04 | safetydan | godzirra, it should be in the same directory that you typed "make install", just type "./rockboxui" to run it |
| 18:28:05 | amiconn | Afaik the smallest .wad is the shareware doom1 wad, and that needs ~2MB iirc |
| 18:28:14 | kkurbjun | but there's some wasted space because of alloca's and reallocs |
| 18:28:19 | kkurbjun | ahh |
| 18:28:20 | godzirra | safetydan: yeash, I found it... I'm trying to figure out how it works now. Its weird on my laptop cause Ihave no number pad. |
| 18:28:34 | preglow | kkurbjun: how do you implement memory management as of now? |
| 18:28:35 | safetydan | godzirra, arrow keys mostly work |
| 18:28:36 | amiconn | Archos has a *total* of 2MB ram... |
| 18:28:59 | kkurbjun | it just has malloc and realloc, realloc copy's the old data, but there's no free |
| 18:29:07 | preglow | bah |
| 18:29:15 | preglow | i think we should commit dbesfit malloc |
| 18:29:20 | amiconn | kkurbjun: If we manage to allocate the biggest chunks which are now in .bss from the audio buffer, doom.rock might fit in plugin ram |
| 18:29:22 | preglow | these adhoc mallocs are just a source of bugs |
| 18:29:35 | godzirra | safetydan: After runing make install, I put stuff in the archos directory created under my build directory? |
| 18:29:49 | safetydan | godzirra, yes |
| 18:30:22 | godzirra | do I need to put them in .rockbox/wps and .rockbox/themes? |
| 18:30:26 | amiconn | 440KB of .bss ... |
| 18:30:27 | kkurbjun | amiconn: sorry, I don't really understand the map file or what it all means, is there a document I can look at which describes it |
| 18:30:30 | godzirra | nevermind, I see. |
| 18:30:36 | safetydan | godzirra, depends on if it's a theme or a wps :) |
| 18:31:06 | Mikachu | godzirra: you need a music file too |
| 18:31:16 | kkurbjun | is .bss the globals? |
| 18:31:25 | preglow | no, uninitialised variables |
| 18:31:37 | preglow | so it's not included in the file |
| 18:31:45 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: Are there many calls to malloc/realloc and friends in Doom? |
| 18:32:02 | Mikachu | are you going to do something with the reduced clearing of plugin mem patch? |
| 18:32:21 | Mikachu | i've used it since it started working without problems |
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| 18:33:10 | Mikachu | where the = my :) |
| 18:33:15 | kkurbjun | there's a few calls to malloc but most of them are initialization stuff so they never use free. there's also a call to realloc in the wad loading, but that's only done a couple of times (depending on how many wads you are adding) at the start. there's a few alloca's around though, I havn't played doom enough to get a buffer runout |
| 18:33:40 | preglow | allocas don't matter |
| 18:33:42 | preglow | they're stack based |
| 18:33:56 | kkurbjun | but they're mapped to malloc now |
| 18:34:00 | preglow | why? |
| 18:34:03 | preglow | are they too large for the stack? |
| 18:34:21 | kkurbjun | is there a alloca call I could use? |
| 18:34:27 | preglow | gcc has one |
| 18:34:34 | preglow | __builtin_alloca or something |
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| 18:35:01 | kkurbjun | hmm, that would fix alloca then |
| 18:35:01 | preglow | it isn't an ordinary function, so you need to make it a macro, not a function wrapper |
| 18:35:10 | preglow | kkurbjun: just beware you don't alloca too much |
| 18:35:15 | preglow | kkurbjun: the stack isn't very big |
| 18:35:19 | kkurbjun | yeah, it's mapped as a macro already |
| 18:35:22 | godzirra | Mikachu: I know ;) I'm learning.. slowly.. lol |
| 18:35:37 | Mikachu | if you wish to enable built-in functions selectively when using -fno-builtin or -ffreestanding, you may define macros such as: |
| 18:35:40 | kkurbjun | It was mapped to malloc from the digita doom port so I left that alone |
| 18:35:42 | Mikachu | + quotes |
| 18:36:25 | marevalo | Mikachu: heh, about the unresponive thinking on chessbox I'm working on it now, but I'm still trying to find out what broke off on commit |
| 18:37:23 | Mikachu | okay |
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| 18:39:59 | linuxstb_ | marevalo: The only difference I've spotted so far is that the chessbox Makefile has -O3 in the CFLAGS. But removing that didn't solve the problem. |
| 18:40:17 | linuxstb_ | Which player are you testing on? |
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| 18:41:26 | amiconn | linuxstb: Thanks for the hint - I'll probably disable that for SH |
| 18:41:46 | amiconn | -O3 usually builds slower code for SH |
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| 18:42:07 | marevalo | linuxstb_: ok, I'm hunting it down |
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| 18:45:41 | linuxstb_ | marevalo: Have you tried it in the uisimulator? |
| 18:46:11 | marevalo | I'm working with it |
| 18:46:30 | marevalo | (void)parameter; (what's this suppose to do, is it C :-D ? ) |
| 18:46:36 | linuxstb_ | Nothing. |
| 18:46:51 | linuxstb_ | It prevents gcc warning you that the variable is unused. |
| 18:46:59 | marevalo | I just copied it from bejeweled but really didn't understand it |
| 18:47:08 | marevalo | oook |
| 18:47:25 | marevalo | the problem is with the rb api struct |
| 18:47:25 | godzirra | Hrm. I cant figur eout how to get hte menu in rockbox's simulator. |
| 18:47:27 | kkurbjun | preglow: thanks for that information on alloca seems to be working fine |
| 18:47:30 | godzirra | five isnt working. |
| 18:47:40 | godzirra | err enter i mean |
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| 18:48:26 | linuxstb_ | marevelo: Of course. Change the rb definition to "extern struct plugin_api* rb;" at the top of gnuchess.c |
| 18:48:40 | marevalo | ok |
| 18:48:53 | linuxstb_ | And remove the word "static" from the definition in chessbox.c |
| 18:49:00 | marevalo | I'm also fixing a couple of problems |
| 18:49:28 | godzirra | Actually I cant get the simulator to pull up the filesystem. |
| 18:49:28 | linuxstb_ | Yes - that will definitely be the cause of the bugs. |
| 18:49:58 | godzirra | anyone have suggestions? |
| 18:50:11 | marevalo | ok, I will fix in another way, I just don't like this global vars way for doing this |
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| 18:50:49 | _MadMan_ | if i make a playlist in winamp and my files on my pc are at My Music, do i have to strip the My Music part out to play it on rockbox (ihp-120) |
| 18:52:39 | linuxstb_ | marevalo: OK. But I don't see any issues with a global variable for the rb pointer - it's different to other variables. |
| 18:53:46 | marevalo | ok, I will let it that way (well if fact the other way round, rb will be externed from gnuchess) |
| 18:54:29 | marevalo | do you want a patch for this or let me fix a couple of problems with yielding and responding while thinking |
| 18:54:31 | marevalo | ? |
| 18:56:07 | kkurbjun | does anyone know what this means? it's my last warning: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 18:56:08 | kkurbjun | ; refering to: fixed_t* finecosine = &finesine[FINEANGLES/4] where fixed_t is an int; |
| 18:56:51 | linuxstb_ | What is the definition of finesine? |
| 18:57:17 | kkurbjun | const int finesine[10240] |
| 18:57:43 | amiconn | Then use const fixed_t finecosine |
| 18:57:51 | amiconn | Erm, const fixed_t* finecosine |
| 18:58:56 | kkurbjun | great, thanks, now doom compiles with no warnings on gcc 3.4 |
| 18:59:01 | amiconn | 'const' in conjunction with pointers seems to be confuse some people, however the system is fairly logical |
| 18:59:38 | amiconn | A simple variable can either be constant or not, |
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| 19:00:21 | amiconn | but with a pointer variable there are 4 possibilities |
| 19:00:35 | kkurbjun | yeah, I don't understand why the pointer would need the const attribute.. I guess it is saying that you shouldn't be able to do something like finecosine[4]=6; |
| 19:01:38 | amiconn | Read the qualifiers from right to left, then it becomes clear |
| 19:01:58 | amiconn | const fixed_t * meanst a pointer to constant data |
| 19:02:35 | amiconn | fixed_t * const would mean something very different: a constant pointer pointing to variable data |
| 19:02:57 | kkurbjun | I see |
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| 19:05:43 | linuxstb_ | marevalo: When you've finished your current set of changes, put a patch on the tracker. I can look at it and commit it later tonight if no-one else does before me. |
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| 19:06:18 | kkurbjun | amiconn: with -Os doom is now 338.2 Kb |
| 19:06:43 | kkurbjun | how can I go about reallocating the .bss section to the plugin buffer |
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| 19:07:00 | marevalo | linuxstb_: ok, I'm on it |
| 19:07:07 | linuxstb_ | Thanks. |
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| 19:08:13 | amiconn | kkurbjun: Look for large arrays in .bss, and run-time allocate these |
| 19:08:39 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: Can you upload your latest doom.map file somewhere? |
| 19:08:42 | amiconn | I hope at least some of them are non-static, so you can spot them in the .map |
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| 19:09:02 | kkurbjun | ok, so just use the modified malloc I've been using? yeah, just a second |
| 19:09:09 | safetydan | godzirra, try the Ins key |
| 19:09:21 | amiconn | kkurbjun: Yes. |
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| 19:09:58 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: Does your malloc perform memory alignment? |
| 19:10:01 | amiconn | preglow: I start thinking that a proper malloc *in the plugin* lib might indeed be useful, for stuff like doom |
| 19:10:59 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: it's the same as rockboy's so I don't know |
| 19:11:34 | amiconn | I would like to get rid of malloc for the codecs though, and of course never introduce it in the core |
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| 19:14:47 | kkurbjun | amiconn: just the .bss section.. the server I've been using to host my files is acting up :http://pastebin.com/568848 |
| 19:15:33 | preglow | amiconn: that's the only thing i've been talking about all the time anyway |
| 19:15:38 | preglow | i don't want malloc anywhere else |
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| 19:22:28 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: That doesn't look too bad. Can you see the big arrays that need malloc'ing ? |
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| 19:24:13 | kkurbjun | there's a few that I could do off the top of my head looking at the variables. does this table indicate one's worth looking at? |
| 19:24:36 | marevalo | *PANIC* Stkov main |
| 19:24:46 | preglow | marevalo: you use too much stack |
| 19:24:49 | kkurbjun | hmm, -Os is about a half a frame slower per second then -O3 |
| 19:24:50 | marevalo | this seems to be out of stach size |
| 19:25:08 | preglow | kkurbjun: you should stick to O2 on rockbox |
| 19:25:16 | preglow | kkurbjun: i've almost never seen O3 to be faster |
| 19:25:26 | marevalo | strange, I tried it yesterday with my original patch and could play on the higher level without problem |
| 19:25:40 | marevalo | could this be a problem of the loading scheme ? |
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| 19:26:03 | linuxstb_ | marevalo: Did you remove the -O3 ? |
| 19:26:24 | marevalo | nop, didn't touch anything of the makefile |
| 19:26:43 | linuxstb_ | Try doing that - I think it was an accident that that is there anyway. |
| 19:26:58 | marevalo | ok |
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| 19:29:08 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: If you look at the bottom of the file you pasted, at w_wad.o, the map file tells you that there are 0x186b8 bytes of bss in that file, and that "info" is the main culprit - it is 0x32fcffac-0x32fb790c bytes in size. |
| 19:29:31 | linuxstb_ | (that's just an example to explain what the numbers mean) |
| 19:31:20 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: thanks, actually that code isn't even used so I can probably #if 0 the whole thing |
| 19:32:26 | linuxstb_ | There is a similar sized array in the i_sound.o file (vol_lookup) |
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| 19:34:08 | kkurbjun | yeah, that was one that I remembered from before.. I may just completely remove that one though as I don't need to have a scalable volume in doom.. I was just goign to use the system volume control |
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| 19:36:25 | marevalo | linuxstb_: ok, it seems to work without the -O3, fixing the responsiveness (is it that word?) |
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| 19:38:13 | _MadMan_ | if i make a playlist in winamp and my files on my pc are at My Music, do i have to strip the My Music part out to play it on rockbox (ihp-120) |
| 19:39:38 | kkurbjun | : ), already have the bss section cut in half |
| 19:40:27 | marevalo | ok, it will take me some time to fix the "stop thinking" thing, I will add a patch for the people to try it and fix it "The Right Way" tomorrow |
| 19:41:21 | linuxstb_ | _MadMan_: I don't use playlists, so I don't know. But if your playlist contains a path that doesn't exist on your player, then I wouldn't expect it to work. |
| 19:41:51 | dpassen1 | It'll depend on the file structure on your 120 compared to the structure on your PC |
| 19:42:22 | _MadMan_ | it seems to work without modification |
| 19:43:45 | _MadMan_ | which i thought was weird |
| 19:46:46 | kkurbjun | ok doom now fits in a plugin buffer of 90000, I'll see if I can get it down to 80000 |
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| 19:49:20 | amiconn | For SH1 (archos) I would even go down to plain -O instead of -O2 or -O3 |
| 19:50:57 | marevalo | ok, i got to go now and the new bugmachine seems to treat me just the same as the source forge one |
| 19:51:09 | marevalo | if someone is intereseted in commiting the patch: |
| 19:51:18 | marevalo | marevalo./pics/chessbox001.patch">http://www.marevalo./pics/chessbox001.patch |
| 19:51:29 | marevalo | if not I will try to upload it later |
| 19:51:30 | marevalo | bbl |
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| 19:52:49 | linuxstb_ | I can have a look at the now. |
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| 19:54:20 | preglow | argh |
| 19:55:15 | preglow | if i do lolfunction(num, a, b, array[i], arrayagain[i++]); i should be the same for both array indices, and incremented after the function call has been done, yes? |
| 19:55:44 | preglow | 'cause gcc just goes straight ahead and increments it before the first use here... |
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| 19:56:55 | amiconn | I think the evaluation order of function arguments isn't defined. |
| 19:56:58 | linuxstb_ | I wouldn't expect that behaviour to be defined. |
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| 19:57:36 | preglow | ok |
| 19:57:41 | preglow | then i learnt another thing today |
| 19:57:44 | ssnajper | hi, i noticed that the 3g bootloader has been added to the ipod install page, does that mean that the 3g port works? |
| 19:57:47 | amiconn | It might even depend on the architecture. If the architecture uses stkargs and the last argument has to be pushed first, |
| 19:57:52 | preglow | and wasted a couple of hours |
| 19:57:58 | amiconn | I would even expect gcc to reverse the order |
| 19:58:07 | preglow | on x86 you do |
| 19:58:39 | amiconn | 'arrayagain' looks funny ;) |
| 19:59:49 | linuxstb_ | ssnajper: IMO, that file shouldn't have been added to the wiki. The port isn't finished, and the latest code isn't even in CVS yet. |
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| 20:00:14 | ssnajper | ah i c |
| 20:00:26 | ssnajper | i'll wait some more then :) |
| 20:00:33 | ssnajper | keep up the great work |
| 20:00:40 | linuxstb_ | If you're adventurous, you can look on the patch tracker, and download the patch, and compile rockbox yourself.... |
| 20:01:10 | ssnajper | nah, i don't even know how to do that, it could be dangerous :) |
| 20:01:51 | linuxstb_ | AFAIK, sound isn't working yet, but most other things are. |
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| 20:02:30 | ssnajper | ok, thanks for the update |
| 20:02:41 | kkurbjun | great! I have doom compiling without a modified plugin buffer and no warnings or errors.. now to make sure it still works |
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| 20:17:59 | BHSPitLappy | kkurbjun: does it run on the iPods yet? |
| 20:18:16 | kkurbjun | BHSPitLappy: no, not yet |
| 20:18:26 | BHSPitLappy | ah |
| 20:18:37 | BHSPitLappy | good work, still |
| 20:18:39 | muesli- | kkurbjun sounds like a commit soon? |
| 20:19:30 | kkurbjun | possibly, I have it running without a modified plugin buffer and it's compiling without any warnings on the gcc 3.4 |
| 20:19:52 | muesli- | ur incredible man :-) |
| 20:20:37 | linuxstb_ | Did you find a solution for the wad loading? |
| 20:20:47 | linuxstb_ | i.e. specify which wads to use. |
| 20:22:03 | BHSPitLappy | hmm |
| 20:22:27 | BHSPitLappy | the homebrew doom port for the PSP begins with a list of .wad files it found and you choose one |
| 20:22:57 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: yes, now it searches in /games/doom/ for the wad files (doom.wad, doom1.wad, doomu.wad, doom2.wad, doom2f.wad, tnt.wad, and plutonia.wad) those were all the official releases. So it builds a list of what you have from those files and you select the base wad you want to use. Now if you want to run an addon game you can type that wad file in also in a menu I made. |
| 20:23:35 | linuxstb_ | So is Doom a plugin or a viewer? |
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| 20:24:40 | kkurbjun | it's running as a plugin, but I was thinking making it a viewer as well.. so if someone selects a wad file it will automatically add it to the list. The only problem with this is that some addons need multiple wad files to run. |
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| 20:25:20 | kkurbjun | they would still be brought to the menu if they use it as a viewer to select the base wad file |
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| 20:37:46 | kkurbjun | here's the latest patch while I'm waiting for the new tracker to send me a login: kkurbjun/doomcvs.diff">http://alamode.mines.edu/~kkurbjun/doomcvs.diff and http://alamode.mines.edu/~kkurbjun/doom.zip |
| 20:38:05 | kkurbjun | this compiles cleanly and fits in the plugin buffer |
| 20:38:27 | linuxstb_ | Hopefully I'll be able to look at the ipod problems later tonight. |
| 20:38:55 | kkurbjun | I still have some changes to the plugin.h and plugin.c to allow access to vsnprintf and set_option menu bindings |
| 20:38:57 | amiconn | data abort? |
| 20:39:07 | kkurbjun | that would be great if you could get it running |
| 20:39:47 | kkurbjun | yeah, it's a data abort on lumpinfo_t struct in w_wad.h |
| 20:39:57 | kkurbjun | I think it's because of the character array |
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| 20:40:34 | ep0ch | oh noes, what happened to since25.html? |
| 20:40:44 | amiconn | kkurbjun: That needs to be solved for archos as well (if doom on archos will work at all) |
| 20:41:04 | amiconn | Otherwise => CPUAdrErr |
| 20:41:24 | amiconn | The SH1 doesn't like misaligned accesses the same way as arm |
| 20:41:29 | crwl | would them SH1 devices really have enough power for doom? |
| 20:41:36 | amiconn | Only coldfire is forgiving that |
| 20:41:38 | crwl | though the screen resolution is really tiny... |
| 20:41:44 | kkurbjun | amiconn: yeah I remember hearing that the SH chip would fail on misalligned reads also, I don't know what is required to get it to allign correct though. |
| 20:41:58 | crwl | doom was quite playable on 386DX/20 with a tiny playing window :) |
| 20:42:19 | amiconn | Yes, it may be a very tight fit on all ends |
| 20:42:36 | kkurbjun | right now doom is only running at about 10fps on the coldfire in a timedemo |
| 20:42:43 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: Is your port of Doom hard-coded for a specific LCD size? |
| 20:42:51 | amiconn | RAM is only 2MB, cpu clock 11..12MHz, display resolution only 112x64 |
| 20:42:53 | linuxstb_ | Or will it automatically adapt? |
| 20:43:08 | kkurbjun | no, I have the generic idoom code in there that will adapt automatically for different sizes |
| 20:43:18 | amiconn | We might even need the grayscale lib on top of that in order to make the display at least somewhat usable. |
| 20:43:22 | kkurbjun | the only thing that doesn't adapt right now is my printf function |
| 20:43:37 | crwl | but i had 386 with 8 megs of ram... with just 4 MB, it was a lot slower (lots of disk trashing with larger maps)... how about 2 then :P |
| 20:43:38 | kkurbjun | which should be pretty easy to fix |
| 20:43:40 | linuxstb_ | There were some changes recently to idoom to make it work on the ipod 5g's 320x240 LCD. Have you looked at the source in the last few days? |
| 20:43:42 | amiconn | The grayscale lib will eat further cpu power... |
| 20:44:12 | amiconn | But at least it should be possible to make doom work on the h1x0 |
| 20:44:19 | amiconn | (using the grayscale lib) |
| 20:44:37 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: no, I havn't, their way of scaling the image isn't very efficient. I only included it so that other ports would have a good starting point. |
| 20:44:48 | kkurbjun | I have to go now though |
| 20:45:02 | kkurbjun | hopefully I can work on any issues that come up later tonight |
| 20:45:25 | linuxstb_ | np. We obviously need to fix the data aborts first. |
| 20:46:27 | Lear | He, logf codec display is wrong (in sim at least)... :) |
| 20:47:24 | Lear | which must mean id3.codectype doesn't hold an AFMT constant. |
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| 20:48:22 | Lear | Sorry, read wrong stuff in the logf window. :) |
| 20:48:50 | safetydan | the sim is flawless I tell you |
| 20:48:51 | safetydan | flawless |
| 20:49:04 | linuxstb_ | bbl |
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| 20:49:24 | Lear | sound playback perhaps, but if it crashes, I have to enter the task manager and kill it. |
| 20:50:36 | safetydan | I was kidding by the way :) |
| 20:51:12 | safetydan | It certainly works better under Linux though |
| 20:51:35 | * | preglow sings the library dependency dirge |
| 20:56:40 | preglow | anyone know how to make autoconf link statically? |
| 20:57:06 | Lear | safetydan: and it seems write of config file is borked too. |
| 20:57:25 | Lear | (could be because I'm linking with -mconsole though....) |
| 20:57:26 | safetydan | Lear, config file or config sector? |
| 20:57:30 | dwihno | \o/ Sweden won the curling gold \o/ |
| 20:57:41 | Lear | file, as in manager settings/write .cfg |
| 20:59:41 | safetydan | Lear, yeah it's not working under Linux so it's not -mconsole related |
| 20:59:47 | safetydan | nice empty file |
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| 21:06:57 | safetydan | does anyone mind if I commit marevalo's chessbox fix? marevalo.com/pics/chessbox001.patch">http://www.marevalo.com/pics/chessbox001.patch |
| 21:07:03 | safetydan | Seems to work fine on my H120 |
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| 21:10:01 | yeahx | is RB GBA working yet? |
| 21:12:35 | amiconn | Haha, with the overlay loader moved to the plugin lib, the loader plugin just contains the plugin header and a plugin_start() function consisting of one single function call |
| 21:13:13 | preglow | yeahx: working _yet_? has it even been started? |
| 21:13:54 | preglow | safetydan: linuxstb said he was going to look at it |
| 21:14:00 | yeahx | hehe no |
| 21:14:29 | safetydan | preglow, yeah I might leave it for him. I can't reproduce the crash people seem to be talking about. |
| 21:16:39 | amiconn | safetydan: Just move the sim window around with the mouse during music playback |
| 21:16:43 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:16:51 | amiconn | It will crash within a couple of seconds |
| 21:18:40 | safetydan | Doesn't crash in Linux, but I think it's the same issue as before. |
| 21:22:33 | Paprica | blah |
| 21:22:37 | Paprica | what wrong here? |
| 21:22:37 | Paprica | void power_ups(struct game_data * bm, int brick_num) |
| 21:22:49 | Paprica | the error |
| 21:22:50 | Paprica | brickmania.c:1054: error: two or more data types in declaration of `power_ups' |
| 21:25:17 | Paprica | =\? |
| 21:28:01 | Lear | any typedefs in the file? |
| 21:28:42 | Paprica | no |
| 21:30:02 | lostlogic | Paprica: what's the previous functional line? |
| 21:30:17 | Lear | cvs brickmania has a few... |
| 21:30:36 | Paprica | shit, forgot the ; |
| 21:30:37 | Paprica | =\ |
| 21:31:02 | Paprica | lostlogic, thanks |
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| 21:44:48 | safetydan | I wonder if adding mutexes to the sim will help |
| 21:47:20 | Lear | Ah, so it is talk_init that kills playback on settings load... Explains why it doesn't happen in the simulator (no talk at all there). |
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| 21:48:02 | safetydan | well seems adding mutexes has no effect under Linux... |
| 21:50:13 | * | Cassandra is curious to know why speech doesn't work on iPod. I'd have expected it to work the same on all swcodec platforms. |
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| 21:51:41 | lostlogic | Cassandra: am also wondering that, I can't think of any good reason it wouldn't work |
| 21:51:52 | lostlogic | Cassandra: does it try to load (spin the disk to load the voice file) or not even try? |
| 21:52:17 | preglow | kind of hard to say on nano |
| 21:52:20 | * | amiconn suspects endianness problems |
| 21:52:40 | Lear | in the bitswapper perhaps... :) |
| 21:52:41 | lostlogic | Cassandra: do next and previous track button presses work? |
| 21:52:42 | preglow | amiconn: the files are little-endian, yes? |
| 21:52:55 | amiconn | No, big endian |
| 21:52:56 | lostlogic | (beeps that is) |
| 21:53:13 | amiconn | (of course) |
| 21:53:14 | preglow | amiconn: i thought they were pre-bitswapped |
| 21:53:21 | amiconn | *bit*swapped |
| 21:53:27 | amiconn | Not byte-swapped |
| 21:53:30 | webguest33 | paprica - do you know about the frozen ball bug in brickmania? |
| 21:53:30 | preglow | why the hell do you need to _bit_swap? |
| 21:53:31 | webguest33 | paprica - do you know about the frozen ball bug in brickmania? |
| 21:54:13 | Cassandra | lostlogic, hard to tell on a flash player. |
| 21:54:21 | amiconn | preglow: The MAS serial interface needs the bits in the opposite order than the SH1 serial sends them |
| 21:54:40 | amiconn | So *all* data transferred to the MAS via serial needs to be bitswapped |
| 21:54:44 | preglow | sounds like a really cleverly constructed player, you need to either bit or byte swap everything :PP |
| 21:54:55 | Cassandra | lostlogic, in what context? |
| 21:55:21 | lostlogic | Cassandra: Do the button press beeps work at all is the question... |
| 21:55:26 | amiconn | The SH1 SCI is in fact braindead, it uses the opposite bit order of about everything else |
| 21:55:38 | amiconn | SH2 and higher can switch bit order on SCI... |
| 21:55:48 | lostlogic | they both use similar code (I actually somewhat genericized the mixing code the other day) so that would be a clue |
| 21:56:15 | Cassandra | Oh, right. |
| 21:56:35 | Cassandra | I'm slightly worried to have to say that no sound at all appears to be working. |
| 21:56:39 | amiconn | preglow: Don't forget that the archos was one of (_the_ ?) first mobile mp3 player |
| 21:56:47 | Cassandra | Let me try turning off speech support. |
| 21:56:49 | amiconn | The Player design dates back to 1999 |
| 21:56:59 | safetydan | woo, working peak meter in the SDL sim |
| 21:57:07 | preglow | sure, but that doesn't give you an excuse to not reverse the traces for the ata interface :) |
| 21:57:09 | amiconn | Someone needs to make mistakes in order for others to know about them |
| 21:57:24 | preglow | reverse/swap |
| 21:57:43 | amiconn | ...and regarding strange design quirks, the newer player aren't any better imho, just different |
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| 21:58:04 | preglow | apart from the ipod, which is perfect! |
| 21:58:10 | amiconn | And we don't need to swap *everything* |
| 21:58:12 | midkay | Zagor, here now :) you? |
| 21:58:14 | amiconn | LOL |
| 21:58:44 | preglow | it's so perfect you don't even need docs |
| 21:58:52 | * | Cassandra swears. |
| 21:59:05 | webguest12 | anyone know at what voltage the H140 hardware auto shuts down, I have the battery voltage in wps and need a guideline ? |
| 21:59:07 | Cassandra | I have no sound at all and the track timer refusing to advance. |
| 21:59:19 | Cassandra | Turning off voice doesn't seem to change that. |
| 21:59:27 | lostlogic | Cassandra: move the voice file away, it may be that the initializing the compressed audio buffer breaks whe nit tries to allocate the space for the voice codec |
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| 22:00:32 | webguest12 | lostlogic, you worked on power, do you have any idea as to what the auto shutdown voltage of the H140 is ? |
| 22:01:29 | lostlogic | webguest12: its critical voltage is 2.95 or 2.97 or something −− but I believe that before we actually read a voltage that low, it will shut down due to valleys in voltage that the power management chip detects and therefore shuts down. |
| 22:01:52 | lostlogic | webguest12: check out vinylivo's patch on the flyspray if you can build rockbox, it should give us better shutdown conditions |
| 22:02:06 | * | webguest12 chuckles, a question that has stumped the dev team ? |
| 22:02:11 | Cassandra | lostlogic, yeah. Deleting the file causes playback to start working again. |
| 22:02:20 | lostlogic | Cassandra: and beeps? |
| 22:02:23 | Lear | Hm... Restarting playback in talk_init wouldn't be hard, but it'd be real ugly to restart twice, if crossfade has changed too... |
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| 22:02:47 | lostlogic | Cassandra: so it seems ot be a initialization of buffer issue on the iPod, which means I got nothin' |
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