| 00:00:04 | Mikachu | if you use zsh you can also do 'zmv -W *.bmp.c *.c' |
| 00:00:21 | Bagder | infamis: newname=`echo $old | sed 's/bmp.c/.c/'` |
| 00:00:30 | Bagder | mv $old $newname |
| 00:00:58 | Mikachu | or you can just do {mv $a ${a%bmp.c}.c} |
| 00:01:10 | Mikachu | that was not exactly right but you get the ida |
| 00:01:21 | Bagder | that too isn't sh |
| 00:01:35 | Mikachu | heh, wrote the {} out of habit |
| 00:01:40 | Mikachu | but the thing within should work in bash too |
| 00:01:45 | * | Bagder is portable by habit ;-) |
| 00:01:49 | linuxstb_ | infamis: Have you got bmp files you want to use in Rockbox? |
| 00:01:59 | Bagder | Mikachu: bash, yes, sh no |
| 00:02:19 | Mikachu | well, i think when you write a command locally, you can stretch the limits a bit |
| 00:02:25 | Bagder | indeed |
| 00:02:35 | Bagder | I'm just grumpy |
| 00:03:34 | Mikachu | so i have no idea what this command did |
| 00:03:37 | Mikachu | for b (*) {mkdir $TJO/$b:r; for a (`grep mnt/ipod $b`) {echo $a $b; cp $a $TJO/$b:r}; cp $b $TJO } |
| 00:05:04 | infamis | linuxstb_: no I'm just trying to bmp2rb the normal apps/plugins/bitmaps/native bitmaps |
| 00:05:16 | infamis | since make won't do it for me |
| 00:05:49 | skwad | night all |
| 00:06:03 | midkay | night skwad |
| 00:06:14 | infamis | so I did it by hand but had .bmp.c cause I had: for i in `ls *.bmp`; do bmp2rb $i > $i.c; done |
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| 00:07:07 | linuxstb_ | Which bitmaps is make failing to convert? Does it convert any? |
| 00:09:12 | infamis | the only file that exists in x5-sim-build/apps/plugins/native is bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.c & it has the text "can't read file" or somethinf that nature (and then there's dep-bitmaps-native) |
| 00:09:36 | infamis | which breaks make |
| 00:10:28 | linuxstb_ | That's because the sim is broken for the x5 |
| 00:11:32 | infamis | what's broke about it? |
| 00:11:45 | infamis | dan stelberg seems to think the sim works based on the forum threads in x5 |
| 00:12:13 | linuxstb_ | The sudoku bitmaps are missing, which cause compilation to fail. |
| 00:12:18 | Bagder | no |
| 00:12:20 | Bagder | it doesn' |
| 00:12:23 | Bagder | t fail on linux |
| 00:12:28 | Bagder | only on cygwin |
| 00:12:31 | linuxstb_ | I know..... |
| 00:12:47 | Bagder | but yes, it is that broken |
| 00:13:03 | Bagder | infamis: I can build and run it fine |
| 00:13:06 | * | petur wonders why http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/2970 wasn't closed by linus |
| 00:13:12 | Bagder | it just doesn't work for all parts |
| 00:13:23 | infamis | hmm...damn cygwin |
| 00:13:52 | Bagder | so, you need to fix the badness first |
| 00:14:03 | Bagder | or just edit them out from the SOURCES |
| 00:14:21 | infamis | what's the badness? |
| 00:15:26 | Bagder | your build shoudl tell you |
| 00:15:53 | Bagder | there's a lack of BMP files |
| 00:16:13 | Bagder | or if you want, the plugins shouldn't be built until there are such files |
| 00:18:27 | infamis | the bmp files in exist apps/plugins/bitmaps/native but bmp2rb doesn't make them |
| 00:18:34 | infamis | "error can't read image" |
| 00:18:50 | infamis | out of the 71 it fails on 6 bmps |
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| 00:20:00 | Bagder | then use make V=1 |
| 00:20:05 | Bagder | to see the full command lines |
| 00:20:11 | Bagder | then figure out why they fail |
| 00:20:13 | Bagder | and adjust |
| 00:22:28 | Bagder | I think I'll adjust my ld to fail for this and possible fix these |
| 00:22:48 | infamis | making now...cygwin is slow |
| 00:23:12 | Bagder | S L O W |
| 00:25:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Y'know, with the sources file, if you just changed all the defines for H120 (width == 160, height ==120, depth ==2) to depth >=2, wouldn't that fix the missing BMP issue for now? |
| 00:26:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there a define for X5? |
| 00:27:59 | infamis | almost thought it was gonna work (doing the bmp2rbs by hand); til ld failed with undefined refs |
| 00:28:10 | infamis | on bejeweled.c |
| 00:29:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | infamis: Did you try just updating the sources file? |
| 00:29:34 | infamis | I wouldn't know which ones to update! |
| 00:29:40 | infamis | or how to! |
| 00:30:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, let me see if it works first. |
| 00:30:57 | infamis | ok |
| 00:31:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've got a few other plugins lying around that definitely won't run on X5, and I don't feel like fixing the keymappings for them, so I have to rearrange things so they don't build either. |
| 00:32:32 | infamis | what makes them not run on the x5? or it's yet to be determined? |
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| 00:34:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, well, they're just ones like Bubbles, Blackjack, and the dice roller, that aren't even in CVS. |
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| 00:35:32 | * | Paul_The_Nerd mutters. |
| 00:35:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I typed => rather than >= |
| 00:36:09 | infamis | lol |
| 00:37:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | In /bitmaps/native there's a file called sources. If my theory is correct, there's a few lines that look like this: #elif (LCD_WIDTH == 160) && (LCD_HEIGHT == 128) && (LCD_DEPTH == 2) that should simply have (LCD_DEPTH >=2) instead, as a hack to let the x5sim build. At least until color bitmaps are put in for them. |
| 00:37:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, with that *one* change, I got the x5sim to install. Well, two actually, since there's two lines that need to be modified. |
| 00:38:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | But one of them was for blackjack. |
| 00:38:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which you don't have. |
| 00:38:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | infamis: Okay, use that and it'll work. |
| 00:38:52 | infamis | cool I'll try it out |
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| 00:41:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, that definitely works. Just loaded up sudoku even. |
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| 00:41:57 | Bagder | ok, I committed that fix |
| 00:41:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: There's just one line in the apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/sources file that needs to be changed to let x5 sim build on cygwin. |
| 00:42:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man |
| 00:42:06 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:42:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Too fast for me. |
| 00:42:27 | Bagder | thanks |
| 00:42:50 | nave7693 | hi as of one hour ago the CVS source is not displaying japanese characters correctly on archos |
| 00:44:21 | Bagder | you mean you cvs updated an hour ago? |
| 00:44:54 | t0mas | or have you checked both builds? |
| 00:46:05 | YouCeyE | hi.. how do i use equalizer with rockbox? |
| 00:46:12 | nave7693 | yes Bad |
| 00:46:19 | nave7693 | Bagder* |
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| 00:46:34 | Bagder | nave7693: and when did it last work? |
| 00:46:50 | mirak | I recorded a show friday and saturday |
| 00:46:53 | nave7693 | Bagder: one day ago. |
| 00:46:59 | aegray | linuxstb_: ping |
| 00:47:06 | mirak | the input equaliser really allow to have a nice sound |
| 00:47:15 | mirak | on the H300, even with external mic |
| 00:47:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | YouCeyE: Go into the menu, and go to Sound Settings, and it's in there. |
| 00:47:36 | petur | input equaliser? |
| 00:47:43 | mirak | I can record longer in wav than with a compressed mp3 and quality is better |
| 00:47:57 | mirak | petur: well the gain and volume indicator |
| 00:48:10 | petur | ah |
| 00:48:29 | YouCeyE | Paul_The_Nerd, i dont have that option.. |
| 00:48:40 | Bagder | nave7693: I have no explanation and I know very little about those parts |
| 00:48:40 | mirak | petur: with iriver firmware I was just praying it would not be too loud, and since conditions were always changing |
| 00:48:52 | YouCeyE | i have volume,bass,trable... i want a prebuilt equalizer setting |
| 00:49:10 | YouCeyE | how can i use preset equalizer? |
| 00:49:11 | infamis | Does the enter button (on the pc-keyboard) work in the simulator? |
| 00:49:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | YouCeyE: Isn't "Eqaulizer" the bottom choice? |
| 00:49:17 | YouCeyE | nope |
| 00:49:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | "Equalizer" rather |
| 00:49:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | YouCeyE: WHat kind of mp3 player are you using? |
| 00:49:32 | YouCeyE | nope.. crossfeed the last one |
| 00:49:36 | YouCeyE | iriver h120 |
| 00:49:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | YouCeyE: When is the last time you put a new version of rockbox on it? |
| 00:49:49 | petur | mirak: yes, otf peak meter and gain change is what makes it usable |
| 00:50:26 | YouCeyE | feb 06 2006 |
| 00:50:34 | YouCeyE | bootloader 6 |
| 00:51:03 | LinusN | nave7693: are you sure that your settings are correct, especially the "default codepage" setting? |
| 00:51:05 | Bagder | feb 6 is aaages ago ;-) |
| 00:51:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | YouCeyE: The equalizer was added on Feb 7. |
| 00:51:21 | YouCeyE | lol.. ok Paul_The_Nerd :) |
| 00:51:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | YouCeyE: You need to download a daily or bleeding edge build. |
| 00:51:27 | YouCeyE | i will dl the latest now |
| 00:51:54 | YouCeyE | any updates on bootloader? |
| 00:51:58 | infamis | BMP2RB bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.bmp /usr/src/rockbox-devel/tools/bmp2rb -f 4 -h /usr/src/rockbox-devel/x5-sim/pluginbitmaps bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.bmp > /usr/src/rockbox-devel/x5-sim/apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.c |
| 00:51:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope |
| 00:52:04 | infamis | fails with "error can't read image |
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| 00:52:27 | Bagder | infamis: then bmp2rb has problems on your system |
| 00:52:27 | infamis | which in bmp2rb.c meant it didn't read all of the data? |
| 00:52:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | infamis: And that's with the change I suggested, and then erasing and making a new build directory? |
| 00:52:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or at least rerunning configure |
| 00:52:59 | Bagder | that bejeweled image isn't affected by that change |
| 00:53:00 | infamis | right, but I was still compiling while you suggested...and it just now finished |
| 00:53:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, bejeweled |
| 00:53:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Weird |
| 00:53:16 | infamis | no this is without the change! |
| 00:53:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but bejeweled wouldn't be affected by it |
| 00:53:44 | infamis | I started compiling with make V=1 and once that finished I was to post the exact command; now I'll try it with your change |
| 00:53:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though you've done all those manual conversions, so I'm kinda wondering if they could get in the way now. |
| 00:54:11 | infamis | I deleted those manual ones before I make'd |
| 00:54:51 | nave7693 | LinusN: thanks it works now |
| 00:55:04 | LinusN | good |
| 00:55:42 | Moos | Bagder, LinusN: hi, wiki spam |
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| 00:55:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | infamis: I would suggest deleting the /apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/sources file, and doing a cvs up to get a clean one, just to make sure the change is right (since it's in CVS now) |
| 00:56:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Assuming you haven't made any other changes to it. |
| 00:57:16 | petur | Moos: nice comment he put in... |
| 00:57:55 | petur | oh... gone already :D |
| 00:58:02 | Bagder | kill kill kill |
| 00:58:16 | Moos | hehe :-) |
| 00:58:30 | * | petur wonders if we still have our chairman... |
| 00:58:47 | Moos | our african one ? :) |
| 00:59:34 | petur | yes, he's still there... |
| 00:59:48 | Bagder | I couldn't see any harm in that |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:05 | Bagder | a chairman can come useful ;-) |
| 01:00:14 | Moos | :-) |
| 01:00:24 | Shadowarrior13 | How do people here compile without cygwin on windows? |
| 01:00:29 | Shadowarrior13 | cygwin sucks so badly |
| 01:00:33 | LinusN | we don't |
| 01:00:44 | Shadowarrior13 | ... |
| 01:00:48 | Shadowarrior13 | stfu :P |
| 01:00:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, you compile without it in two steps: Acquire Cygwin, then compile with it. |
| 01:01:05 | LinusN | Shadowarrior13: don't use windows then |
| 01:01:06 | infamis | some bmp2rb debugging: "error - Can't read image; read 6142, expected 6144" on bmp2rb with bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.bmp |
| 01:01:11 | Bagder | there's another way: |
| 01:01:15 | Bagder | install vmware, run linux, compile |
| 01:01:16 | Shadowarrior13 | I know what's coming. |
| 01:01:20 | Shadowarrior13 | Yup. |
| 01:01:28 | LinusN | Shadowarrior13: the you don't have to use software that sucks |
| 01:01:30 | Bagder | vmware is vastly faster then cygwin |
| 01:01:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I bet if you were sufficiently determined you could get it running with mingw32 or something. |
| 01:01:41 | petur | I haven't tried colinux yet, it might be an alternative way to run linux under windows... |
| 01:01:52 | JdGordon | colunix is good |
| 01:01:58 | Bagder | yes, mingw32 could very well work |
| 01:02:00 | Shadowarrior13 | This is why everyone should host precompiled binaries for the noobs |
| 01:02:01 | petur | does it work? |
| 01:02:04 | JdGordon | i prefer it to cygwin.. but its a pain to setup |
| 01:02:11 | petur | :( |
| 01:02:29 | JdGordon | CAN be a pain to setup i should have said |
| 01:02:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: The real key, is, once you have it set up is it faster for compiling? |
| 01:03:07 | infamis | maybe that bitmap has the wrong padded_width? |
| 01:03:19 | mirak | petur: yes colinux is good |
| 01:03:28 | mirak | petur: if you use command line mostly |
| 01:03:31 | JdGordon | i dunno... i wanst playing with rb last time i had colniux working properly |
| 01:03:38 | | Quit ender` (" Going to church does not make a person religious, nor does going to school make a person educated, any more than going to a ) |
| 01:04:04 | * | petur moves colinux testing a bit up on his agenda |
| 01:04:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | infamis: It works for me. It's possible that your bitmap is bad and needs replaced or something? |
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| 01:04:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | mirak: If you're on windows using cygwin to compile rockbox, all you're probably using is the command line. |
| 01:05:04 | petur | right |
| 01:05:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, I need to stop talking to people right after they leave. |
| 01:05:49 | infamis | Paul_The_Nerd, the bitmap is from cvs though?? |
| 01:07:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | infamis: So's mine. Something's not working on your system though, so I was wondering if maybe your .bmp was corrupt or something. |
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| 01:08:13 | infamis | hmm....got me thinking.... |
| 01:08:19 | petur | build server is getting slower every commit... |
| 01:08:34 | JdGordon | should i setup a colinux devkit image for rb? |
| 01:08:37 | Bagder | petur: fix for that is pending now |
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| 01:09:05 | petur | JdGordon: would be nice, but no hurry ;) |
| 01:09:30 | JdGordon | hmm.. well i got all day to kill now seen as i only had 1 hour uni today.. and i cant really be bothered learning perl just yet |
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| 01:19:56 | infamis | if, when I installed cygwin & selected dos conversion (turning lf to crl & lf), would that affect bitmap files? (it shouldn't since it's binary...but if bmp2rb read 6142 & expected 6144, maybe it's expecting 2 extra bytes?) can someone do a bmp2rb on bejeweled_jewels.160x128x16.bmp -f 4 -h /usr/src/rockbox-devel/x5-sim/pluginbitmaps & see what the size (padded_width * height) number evals to? |
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| 01:28:45 | infamis | anyone still here or is it some odd time elsewhere in the world...6pm here |
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| 01:29:07 | JdGordon | im here |
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| 01:29:52 | petur | 1:30 am and counting |
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| 01:30:26 | JdGordon | only 11.30am here |
| 01:30:35 | JdGordon | u odd ppl on the wrong side of the planet |
| 01:30:45 | petur | what day? |
| 01:30:49 | Shadowarrior13 | Maybe YOU'RE on the wrong side! |
| 01:30:54 | JdGordon | tomorow for u! |
| 01:31:04 | JdGordon | monday |
| 01:31:28 | petur | well here too, but will sleep a bit before using the rest of it :) |
| 01:31:34 | SuperSnout____ | 00:32 here =) |
| 01:32:06 | linuxstb | aegray: You pinged? |
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| 01:33:17 | infamis | lol |
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| 01:34:24 | SuperSnout | i have a problem with rockdoom.. each time i want to run it i have to run the doom.iriver file first other wise it just says that it is not compatable.. is this normal? |
| 01:34:32 | JdGordon | yes |
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| 01:34:49 | SuperSnout | ok.. seems a bit awkward though.. |
| 01:35:01 | SuperSnout | what does doom.iriver actually do? |
| 01:35:04 | infamis | :) |
| 01:35:33 | linuxstb | doom.iriver will contain changes not in the CVS version of rockbox.iriver. |
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| 01:36:39 | SuperSnout | CVS? |
| 01:37:01 | linuxstb | CVS is where the official Rockbox code lives. |
| 01:37:02 | petur | where the official rb sources are |
| 01:37:15 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 01:37:23 | JdGordon | linuxstb: is it just the plugin buffer size thats been changed for doom or is there more? |
| 01:37:38 | SuperSnout | can i move doom.iriver and doom.rock wherever i want? |
| 01:37:46 | linuxstb | No, for the iriver the plugin buffer is the same size. There are just some functions added to the plugin API. |
| 01:38:25 | JdGordon | ok, so um... why not add the changes and make it easier for every!? |
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| 01:40:19 | Aditya | hallo |
| 01:41:30 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Yes, someone could do that... |
| 01:41:38 | JdGordon | haha ok |
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| 01:42:04 | petur | linuxstb: wasn't somebody looking at this? |
| 01:42:04 | Ctcp | Ignored 7 channel CTCP requests in 17 minutes and 10 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:42:04 | * | JdGordon doesnt have cvs access so randomly looks aorund the channel ffor someone who does... |
| 01:42:32 | Aditya | hmm |
| 01:42:43 | Aditya | if I just run linux, I can compile and run rockbox without cygwin right? |
| 01:43:06 | Aditya | JdGordon: I think there is anonymous CVS access |
| 01:43:19 | JdGordon | Aditya: , not for writing.. |
| 01:43:23 | JdGordon | and yes, u can |
| 01:43:24 | Aditya | oh |
| 01:43:28 | Aditya | and oh cool |
| 01:43:28 | Aditya | =P |
| 01:43:30 | Aditya | thanks |
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| 01:44:44 | SuperSnout_____ | can i move doom.iriver and doom.rock wherever i want? |
| 01:45:15 | linuxstb | Yes - but why don't you just use doom.iriver as your main version of Rockbox? |
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| 01:48:28 | linuxstb | Where did you get doom.iriver and doom.rock from? |
| 01:49:06 | Aditya | DOOM.IRIVER AND ROCK SOLD HERE... 2 bucks a pop! get it right here... |
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| 01:51:15 | petur | stop shouting in the middle of the night :) |
| 01:51:22 | Aditya | pssh |
| 01:51:25 | Aditya | I have a license! |
| 01:52:05 | petur | what country hands out licenses to shout? |
| 01:52:12 | Aditya | my country |
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| 01:58:04 | super | yeah and linux.. how would i make doom.iriver my main thing? just delete rockbox.iriver? |
| 01:58:18 | JdGordon | ye |
| 01:58:27 | JdGordon | and rename doom.iriver to rockbox.iriver |
| 01:58:31 | Aditya | wait |
| 01:58:35 | Aditya | whats doom.iriver? |
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| 02:10:08 | aegray | linuxstb: you did a lot with ffmpeg/libavcodec right? |
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| 02:12:04 | linuxstb | Not that much - mainly just extracting the flac decoder. |
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| 02:14:52 | aegray | do you know if avcodec_decode_audio() returns raw pcm audio samples? |
| 02:14:56 | aegray | or what it gives you |
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| 02:19:08 | linuxstb | aegray: No - I didn't actually try to use ffmpeg, I just ripped out some code from it. |
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| 02:26:39 | Aditya | hmm |
| 02:26:44 | Aditya | doomrock is definitely not working |
| 02:26:50 | Aditya | keep getting something about base wads |
| 02:27:32 | midkay | then they're not where they should be |
| 02:27:39 | midkay | /games/doom |
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| 02:27:47 | Aditya | oh |
| 02:27:48 | Aditya | bah |
| 02:27:50 | midkay | ie /games/doom/DOOM2.WAD |
| 02:27:59 | Aditya | the instructions said /doom/ |
| 02:28:11 | midkay | ah, haha, that needs fixing :) |
| 02:28:22 | Aditya | ok.. lets give this another try |
| 02:29:23 | midkay | whatcha playing on? |
| 02:29:48 | Aditya | still the same thing |
| 02:29:50 | Aditya | H320 |
| 02:33:15 | midkay | hmm |
| 02:33:27 | midkay | latest version? |
| 02:33:36 | Aditya | yeah |
| 02:33:42 | Aditya | I think I will just get this H300 opimized |
| 02:33:44 | Aditya | http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=373938&postcount=304 |
| 02:33:49 | midkay | hm. |
| 02:33:50 | Aditya | it has a bunch of stuff inbuilt |
| 02:34:27 | midkay | i've heard about it |
| 02:34:41 | Aditya | hmm |
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| 02:35:10 | midkay | not officially supported, by the way... |
| 02:35:16 | midkay | anyways, i'll be back in a half-hour or so |
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| 02:43:14 | jackinabox^ | hi all |
| 02:44:16 | Aditya | err bah |
| 02:44:20 | Aditya | I ran doom.rock |
| 02:44:25 | Aditya | and its just stuck |
| 02:44:32 | Aditya | with -1 >= numlumps |
| 02:44:37 | Aditya | and now I cant shutoff my player |
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| 02:56:03 | jackinabox^ | ghost town... as usual |
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| 02:59:42 | jackinabox^ | hi strath |
| 02:59:55 | jackinabox^ | and BHS |
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| 03:00:09 | Strath | hello jack |
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| 03:15:35 | jackinabox^ | what's up strath? sorry was in about 4 other windows as well :) |
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| 03:16:31 | Strath | not much, just socializing |
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| 03:16:51 | jackinabox^ | good way to be...still sunday where u're from? |
| 03:17:20 | Strath | for the next 4 hours |
| 03:17:47 | jackinabox^ | cool, it's 10:15 am monday here |
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| 03:19:02 | Strath | quite the diff |
| 03:19:28 | jackinabox^ | indeed, u must be eastern coast US? |
| 03:20:09 | Strath | midwest (central time zone) |
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| 03:20:44 | jackinabox^ | ok :) what state? |
| 03:21:08 | Strath | 42°56'38.93"N 90° 2'30.33"W |
| 03:22:11 | JdGordon | BHSPitLappy: u around? |
| 03:22:20 | BHSPitLappy | no, I'm inside |
| 03:22:22 | BHSPitLappy | what's up? |
| 03:22:37 | jackinabox^ | nah, no good with co-ordinates and i don't have a map handy |
| 03:22:37 | JdGordon | nm, i got fotoz of the skin if u wanna |
| 03:22:38 | JdGordon | c |
| 03:23:40 | JdGordon | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/h300_front.jpg http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/h300_back.jpg |
| 03:24:00 | JdGordon | looks better irl, and will be better still when i get it printed again with more black! |
| 03:24:10 | JdGordon | but huge thanx |
| 03:24:22 | BHSPitLappy | anyone know if rockbox bootloader will freak out if it sees a hfs+ partition? |
| 03:25:51 | BHSPitLappy | neat |
| 03:25:53 | BHSPitLappy | I did that. |
| 03:26:06 | BHSPitLappy | I influenced an Australian landmark. |
| 03:26:11 | JdGordon | haha |
| 03:26:24 | BHSPitLappy | go to a printing place |
| 03:26:24 | Strath | Wisconsin |
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| 03:26:34 | JdGordon | na, its expensive... |
| 03:26:34 | BHSPitLappy | the australian version of "Kinko's" :P |
| 03:26:36 | jackinabox^ | cool |
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| 03:34:04 | Jungti1234 | hm... morning |
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| 03:38:45 | infamis | evening.... |
| 03:41:10 | Shadowarrior13 | Anyone know the key combo in iPod to reset the color scheme? |
| 03:41:24 | Shadowarrior13 | I've reinstalled it, rewritten the bootloader, and it still won't change. |
| 03:41:39 | Shadowarrior13 | (I accidentally made the bg black, now I can't see the text >.<) |
| 03:42:09 | infamis | backlight? |
| 03:42:18 | Shadowarrior13 | No, the color of the background. |
| 03:42:53 | infamis | I'm saying can you activate the backlight & will that bring up text? I don't know rockbox or the iPod...just a guess |
| 03:43:17 | JdGordon | Shadowarrior13: didnt u do that yesterday as well? |
| 03:43:26 | Shadowarrior13 | It's continued from yesterday. |
| 03:43:41 | Shadowarrior13 | I can't gauge how many times I go down+up to navigate my way to the reset option. |
| 03:43:54 | JdGordon | i agve u the button combo to reset it.... |
| 03:44:13 | Shadowarrior13 | No, you gave me where to go, which I can't use. |
| 03:44:24 | JdGordon | bah, sure u can... |
| 03:44:27 | Shadowarrior13 | eg. up 3, down 2, blah blah blah |
| 03:44:29 | JdGordon | anyway.. try menu+select |
| 03:44:39 | Shadowarrior13 | That restarts... |
| 03:46:22 | JdGordon | umm... you could put an older versino or rockbox.ipod ont he player, run it then put the new 1 back on |
| 03:46:25 | JdGordon | that will reset it |
| 03:46:28 | Shadowarrior13 | Good idea. |
| 03:46:53 | Ctcp | Ignored 9 channel CTCP requests in 37 minutes and 41 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:46:53 | * | JdGordon goes in and adds a warning for such silly behaviour.. |
| 03:47:29 | Shadowarrior13 | Another good idea :P |
| 03:48:05 | JdGordon | grr... i cant... linuxstb changed the way the widget works... so it cant be done _simply_, i mean it can, but its a bit yuky.. |
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| 03:50:44 | infamis | anyone know where to get the sdl package from? on cygwin you just type in rockbox.org/cygwin & select it....what about linux? don't see it anywhere in docs |
| 03:54:41 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/cygwin/ ? |
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| 03:55:15 | infamis | Jungti1234: that's for cygwin though...what about linux? |
| 03:55:33 | Aditya | I dont know if you really need to get anything for linux |
| 03:55:34 | Jungti1234 | I got it at there. I use windows. |
| 03:55:39 | Aditya | but I could be wrong |
| 03:56:04 | JdGordon | weee.. an apache just flew over my house... gg commomwealth games security training :D |
| 03:56:43 | psycho_maniac | anybody here currenlty own a apple 5g with rockbox on it? |
| 03:56:56 | Aditya | ack! |
| 03:57:02 | Shadowarrior13 | Me. |
| 03:57:03 | Aditya | *make a cross* apple!! |
| 03:57:07 | infamis | I need it something cause on ../tools/configure it errs out with sdl-config not ofund |
| 03:57:09 | Shadowarrior13 | <3 apple |
| 03:57:13 | Shadowarrior13 | <3 <3 linux |
| 03:57:27 | Aditya | <3 linux |
| 03:57:32 | Aditya | <3 windows xp |
| 03:57:36 | Shadowarrior13 | SATAN!! |
| 03:57:38 | Aditya | <3 iRiver |
| 03:57:42 | Aditya | but apple.. meh.. |
| 03:57:43 | * | Shadowarrior13 throws holy water on Aditya |
| 03:57:50 | Aditya | I am already holy... |
| 03:57:51 | Aditya | bith |
| 03:57:52 | Aditya | bitch |
| 03:57:54 | Aditya | meh |
| 03:57:58 | psycho_maniac | i curently own a h120 and am wanting a apple 5g. how far is rockbox on apple ? |
| 03:58:04 | Shadowarrior13 | It's the windows corrupting your soul |
| 03:58:04 | Aditya | my iRiver battery is getting old... |
| 03:58:10 | Shadowarrior13 | psycho, it's everything anything else can do. |
| 03:58:20 | Shadowarrior13 | Except for doom. |
| 03:58:23 | Shadowarrior13 | :( |
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| 03:58:29 | psycho_maniac | ........i dont need that.. haha |
| 03:58:41 | JdGordon | grr.. not an apache.. a blackhawk :D |
| 03:58:42 | Shadowarrior13 | Well, doom completes me. |
| 03:58:42 | infamis | anyone? SDL for linux...where? what the hell does SDL stand for so I could at least sort out some google results? |
| 03:58:45 | psycho_maniac | so then if i got it the only differece from the apple would be COLOR ? |
| 03:58:51 | Shadowarrior13 | Yup. |
| 03:58:56 | Aditya | heh |
| 03:58:57 | Shadowarrior13 | Lots of beautiful color. |
| 03:59:04 | psycho_maniac | damn now i really want one |
| 03:59:09 | Aditya | thats why I didn't get the apple back then |
| 03:59:15 | Aditya | cause color cost extra |
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| 03:59:20 | Shadowarrior13 | And video. |
| 03:59:20 | Aditya | and well.. it still does somewhat |
| 03:59:23 | Aditya | yeah |
| 03:59:27 | Aditya | apple has it now |
| 03:59:31 | psycho_maniac | im saving up for the 5g 60gb..i dont eve have that much space lol |
| 03:59:32 | Aditya | but for like a 100 bucks more |
| 03:59:34 | Shadowarrior13 | I <3 my videoness |
| 03:59:42 | Shadowarrior13 | I've got a white 60gig :P |
| 03:59:47 | Aditya | I might buy a new mp3 player and it will probably be the H10 |
| 03:59:51 | Aditya | or maybe one from iAudio |
| 03:59:57 | psycho_maniac | yeah thats the only bad part you have to run apple to watch videos but i can prolly wait till rockbox has that working |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:35 | psycho_maniac | because the second well within the hour i get my apple im gonna install rockbox on it and not even run the apple firmware |
| 04:00:38 | Aditya | the nano is pretty neat though |
| 04:00:47 | Aditya | no video and all that shebang but fuck is it small |
| 04:00:56 | Aditya | its like not even the size of my finger |
| 04:01:12 | Shadowarrior13 | The nano has video on linux :P |
| 04:01:17 | Shadowarrior13 | I hate it, I miss the mini. |
| 04:01:22 | Aditya | meh |
| 04:01:29 | Aditya | nano kind of trumps the minis |
| 04:01:33 | Aditya | they do about the same |
| 04:01:35 | Aditya | and are bigger |
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| 04:01:47 | Shadowarrior13 | But the mini was just better. It was tough as hell, and looked better. |
| 04:01:52 | Aditya | erm |
| 04:01:54 | Shadowarrior13 | And you wouldn't lose it in the carpet. |
| 04:01:59 | Aditya | I read that the nano was like insanely touch |
| 04:02:00 | Aditya | tough* |
| 04:02:06 | Shadowarrior13 | Nah. |
| 04:02:16 | Aditya | they threw it out of a car doing 30 mph... |
| 04:02:18 | Shadowarrior13 | Besides, the mini was made of METAL :P |
| 04:02:27 | Aditya | I doubt that |
| 04:02:29 | Shadowarrior13 | I think they just shoulda given the mini a color screen. |
| 04:02:34 | Aditya | it was probably just really hard plastic |
| 04:02:39 | Shadowarrior13 | No, it was metal. |
| 04:02:42 | Shadowarrior13 | Literally. |
| 04:02:44 | Shadowarrior13 | I had one. |
| 04:03:19 | psycho_maniac | didnt they have metal on the back? |
| 04:03:20 | Aditya | http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3 |
| 04:03:30 | Shadowarrior13 | No, the mini was fully metal. |
| 04:03:40 | Shadowarrior13 | I don't care about that one test :P |
| 04:03:41 | psycho_maniac | woah really ! |
| 04:03:54 | Shadowarrior13 | I've seen at least 4 broken nanos from petty drops in my group of friends. |
| 04:04:09 | Shadowarrior13 | Usually the screen. |
| 04:04:28 | psycho_maniac | but the regular ipods have metal on the back dont they? |
| 04:04:29 | Aditya | everything has freak-exceptions |
| 04:04:34 | Aditya | psycho_maniac: yes |
| 04:04:37 | Strath | full metal jacket? |
| 04:04:37 | Shadowarrior13 | Yes. |
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| 04:04:51 | Aditya | my windows xp install hasn't crashed.. ever |
| 04:05:02 | Aditya | and a lot of my friends have the same experience |
| 04:05:09 | Aditya | but there are others out there that have problems |
| 04:05:12 | Aditya | same deal |
| 04:05:55 | psycho_maniac | ive had the xp intall crash as well |
| 04:06:12 | Daishi | leaving...g'night |
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| 04:06:34 | infamis | where do you download/install sdl from on linux? :( |
| 04:06:43 | Jungti1234 | http://static.flickr.com/33/103689339_b145b561b7.jpg |
| 04:07:01 | Aditya | what the? |
| 04:07:57 | Shadowarrior13 | Otaaaay... |
| 04:08:28 | psycho_maniac | whats that pic for? |
| 04:10:07 | Jungti1234 | Italy is So Romantic |
| 04:10:58 | Shadowarrior13 | Okaaay then. |
| 04:12:23 | Aditya | so a guy with dreds smoking on the sidewalk is romantic? |
| 04:12:30 | Aditya | okay... whatever floats your boat |
| 04:13:13 | Jungti1234 | It's not my way of thinking. |
| 04:13:30 | Jungti1234 | I hate smoking. |
| 04:14:59 | infamis | nevermind I found it... libsdl.org it'd be nice if the rb docs or wiki explained where to get sdl... |
| 04:15:24 | infamis | ...for those who don't know what it is |
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| 04:18:32 | midkay | http://google.com/search?q=sdl |
| 04:18:34 | midkay | ;) |
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| 04:20:11 | infamis | believe me that was the first thing I did...but "Simple DirectMedia Layer" doesn't sound like a simulator |
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| 04:21:08 | infamis | I ended up going to rockbox.org/cygwin & google searched for sdl-1.2.9-1 |
| 04:22:23 | midkay | first google link's description is "A cross-platform multimedia library designed to provide fast access to the graphics framebuffer and audio device." - makes sense to me.. graphics, audio, media.. *shrug*. :) |
| 04:22:58 | infamis | I was looking for the word "simulator"... |
| 04:23:18 | midkay | ah, well, it's not exactly a simulator.. |
| 04:23:46 | infamis | rockbox website fails to describe what it is..except that it's for the simulator...so what can [a noob] say? |
| 04:24:23 | midkay | i'd agree it should be better describled.. cygwin installation instructions tell you to simply install sdl from the rockbox mirror, you shouldn't need to know much more if that's the way you're doing it?.. |
| 04:24:30 | midkay | described* : |
| 04:24:31 | midkay | :)* |
| 04:25:14 | infamis | right, for Cygwin it says, just click the checkbox. but now since I'm on linux...I was clueless as to how/where to get it |
| 04:25:30 | midkay | aha. hm. |
| 04:25:42 | midkay | it's not in the crosscompiler docs or anything? that's kind of odd |
| 04:26:20 | infamis | nope...sdl / SDL is nowhere on the 'guide to cross-compiling' |
| 04:27:05 | midkay | hm, well, feel free to add it, i suppose.. :) |
| 04:27:05 | infamis | and the UISimulator doc expects that you already have sdl installed/config'd |
| 04:28:00 | Shadowarrior13 | Damnit, where does rockbox store the information about color settings? |
| 04:28:04 | Shadowarrior13 | It's somehow not resetting |
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| 04:29:58 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 04:31:02 | Jungti1234 | Rockbox is slow the playing speed. |
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| 04:42:19 | infamis | midkay: I edited the cross-compiling wiki page....but... |
| 04:42:41 | infamis | installation guide of sdl is probably needed? |
| 04:43:01 | midkay | infamis, good.. hmm.. probably useful, but a link is at least a very good start. :) |
| 04:43:07 | midkay | might add it to the uisim doc too.. |
| 04:43:32 | infamis | I did the usual configure/make/make install; it was built; but when I run rockboxui, I get a "fatal: No available video device" |
| 04:43:52 | midkay | hm. |
| 04:46:24 | infamis | ...this is an SDL problem not detecting X? http://twomix.devolution.com/pipermail/sdl/2001-October/039456.html |
| 04:47:35 | midkay | hm. i really have no idea, you could try editing the config file if it says have_x is 'no'.. |
| 04:52:51 | infamis | do you know wher the X11 includes & libraries are? |
| 04:53:07 | midkay | not sure, no, sorry |
| 04:53:09 | infamis | I tried forcing have_x to no but it still says "checking for X.....no" on the configure script |
| 04:53:19 | infamis | *to yes I mean |
| 04:53:27 | midkay | after it configures, go and edit the config to "yes" |
| 04:53:36 | midkay | (edit the makefile perhaps?) |
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| 04:57:16 | infamis | edited config.log (as that & the configure script were the only ones with "have_x" in it) to set it from no to yes, but same result. |
| 04:57:22 | * | infamis hates being a noob :( |
| 04:57:29 | Aditya | who doesn't |
| 04:57:49 | infamis | the non-noobs :) |
| 04:58:04 | midkay | haha. |
| 04:58:06 | Aditya | thats a vacuous case |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:45 | infamis | told you I was a noob... |
| 05:00:57 | Aditya | meh |
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| 05:05:37 | Zoide777 | hi |
| 05:05:55 | Zoide777 | has anyone gotten tagdatabase to work w/ unicode? |
| 05:06:39 | Zoide777 | I created a db with SongDB.jar (and also w/ the perl version) but then I can't open the songs whose filenames have special characters (e.g. accented vowels) |
| 05:08:10 | Jungti1234 | um.. |
| 05:08:36 | infamis | sdl won't compile without the x includes/libs when you force have_x to yes cause missing header files gives compile errors...having to install X from scratch is gonna suck :( |
| 05:09:12 | Jungti1234 | Zoide777: About it markun may know. |
| 05:09:29 | Jungti1234 | I'm not sure. |
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| 05:15:08 | infamis | oh well...X from scratch install: XFree86 or X11? |
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| 05:23:42 | midkay | infamis, you're sure an X reinstall will fix it? |
| 05:26:13 | infamis | or at least some way to grab the includes for it |
| 05:26:22 | midkay | hm. |
| 05:26:41 | infamis | I have the libs in /usr/X11R6/lib, but in /usrX11R6/include, there's nothing |
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| 05:27:24 | webguest41 | hey all |
| 05:27:31 | infamis | except for a /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps directory with files in it |
| 05:28:18 | midkay | hm |
| 05:29:21 | infamis | or if I could find the devel X11 package for redhat (if one exists) is my best alternative I'm guessing |
| 05:30:00 | midkay | yeah, that might work.. |
| 05:37:32 | infamis | damn all this downloading. used to think DSL was fast |
| 05:41:05 | midkay | infamis, haha |
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| 05:45:11 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Extension array full'? |
| 05:45:44 | midkay | Jungti1234, i don't know, where did you see it? |
| 05:46:02 | Jungti1234 | language file |
| 05:46:10 | midkay | hmm |
| 05:46:17 | Jungti1234 | saa[b_r]ider: LANG_FILETYPES_EXTENSION_FULL |
| 05:46:18 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
| 05:46:24 | Jungti1234 | saa[b_r]ider: LANG_FILETYPES_EXTENSION_FULL |
| 05:46:28 | Jungti1234 | um? ;; |
| 05:46:30 | midkay | hmm |
| 05:46:37 | Jungti1234 | => id: LANG_FILETYPES_EXTENSION_FULL |
| 05:46:54 | Jungti1234 | sorry saab |
| 05:47:30 | midkay | what does it say for "eng"? |
| 05:47:37 | midkay | or.. |
| 05:47:51 | Jungti1234 | #Filetypes |
| 05:47:51 | Jungti1234 | saa[b_r]ider: LANG_FILETYPES_EXTENSION_FULL |
| 05:47:51 | Jungti1234 | desc: Extension array full |
| 05:47:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Jungti1234 |
| 05:47:51 | Jungti1234 | eng: "Extension array full" |
| 05:47:57 | Jungti1234 | damn irc |
| 05:48:04 | midkay | hm, wait |
| 05:49:01 | midkay | ah |
| 05:49:04 | midkay | you're .. |
| 05:49:18 | midkay | in a directory with a large amount of extensions (too many to hold).. |
| 05:49:40 | midkay | what model? |
| 05:49:43 | midkay | of playert |
| 05:49:50 | Jungti1234 | H300 |
| 05:50:01 | midkay | then you're in a folder with more than 64 file extensions, i think. |
| 05:50:15 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 05:50:55 | midkay | i'm not quite sure what they mean by extensions, but i'm pretty sure it's the file extension (.mp3, .rock etc..) |
| 05:51:08 | Jungti1234 | ex) abc.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnop ? |
| 05:51:45 | midkay | possibly, or maybe like.. blah.a, blah.b, blah.c ... blah.z - and then blah.aa, blah.bb, ... blah.zz - etc. |
| 05:51:45 | Jungti1234 | um..... |
| 05:51:50 | Jungti1234 | next |
| 05:51:54 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Filetype array full'? |
| 05:51:57 | Jungti1234 | smae? |
| 05:51:58 | Jungti1234 | same? |
| 05:52:21 | midkay | /* max filetypes (plugins & icons stored here) */ |
| 05:52:34 | midkay | i'm not sure.. |
| 05:54:13 | midkay | be right back |
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| 05:56:14 | infamis | what does this mean: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11 |
| 05:56:41 | infamis | even if I have libX11.so.6 |
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| 05:58:05 | * | midkay shrugs |
| 05:58:06 | midkay | :p |
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| 06:00:37 | infamis | doesn't "-lXXX" in gcc mean it's looking for libXXX.so.6? |
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| 06:01:04 | earHertz | it means it's looking for libXXXX |
| 06:01:23 | earHertz | whether it find .so or .a or something else depends |
| 06:01:35 | earHertz | on other settings |
| 06:02:06 | infamis | took off the extensnion but same error... |
| 06:02:15 | earHertz | on some setup, it may even find libXXXX.dll |
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| 06:02:43 | earHertz | infamis: go ask in ##linux |
| 06:03:23 | Jungti1234 | midkay |
| 06:03:23 | infamis | can't join another channel using the webclient :( |
| 06:04:00 | earHertz | oh |
| 06:04:36 | Jungti1234 | hm? |
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| 06:05:30 | Jungti1234 | -> /join ##linux - Doesn't it work? |
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| 06:06:22 | midkay | ey. earHertz! ;) |
| 06:06:22 | infamis | *** Access to channel #linux is blocked |
| 06:06:33 | midkay | you can't use the web client to get in another channel, no. |
| 06:06:51 | Jungti1234lweb | ah.. |
| 06:06:52 | earHertz | midkay: ! |
| 06:06:58 | midkay | haha. |
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| 06:07:32 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
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| 06:07:51 | Jungti1234 | midkay |
| 06:07:57 | midkay | hm? :) |
| 06:08:12 | Jungti1234 | I don't understand 'filetype' |
| 06:08:57 | midkay | Jungti1234, nor do i - i would think it would be the file's type, like mp3 or wav or zip.. but you'd also think that it's the same as 'extension'. |
| 06:09:09 | Jungti1234 | hmm... |
| 06:09:11 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 06:09:16 | Jungti1234 | thank you |
| 06:09:24 | earHertz | or th mime type |
| 06:09:26 | midkay | no problem |
| 06:09:36 | Jungti1234 | mime? |
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| 06:11:56 | earHertz | mime type: what email clients and web browsers use to determine file type |
| 06:21:08 | infamis | alright I quit...finally got sdl to compile with X support...now when building the rockbox sim I get all these undefined references from libSDL.so to X*** |
| 06:22:45 | infamis | this is why I could never be a real programmer...wasting 4 hours for something broken to compile...ahhhh! |
| 06:23:14 | JdGordon | haha poor bugger |
| 06:27:36 | BHSPitLappy | too bad he's also a poor DE-bugger! |
| 06:27:45 | * | BHSPitLappy feels like a nerd now. |
| 06:27:54 | * | infamis agrees |
| 06:27:56 | infamis | :p |
| 06:29:06 | infamis | oh well, guess I gotta install X from scratch then :( |
| 06:29:19 | infamis | just so rockbox can work...lol |
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| 06:38:24 | infamis | sdl-config still puts out -lX11 .. I wanna change it to be /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 in the tools/configure script...how to with sed? |
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| 06:45:39 | JdGordon | does any1 know how to compile a executable on linux and tell it to dynamically link in with certain libs at run time? |
| 06:46:16 | infamis | wish I knew. |
| 06:50:22 | * | infamis cries cause he got rockbox to compile the simulator yet still gets 'no available video device' on ./rockboxui |
| 06:50:34 | * | infamis quits for good |
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| 06:53:20 | coob | JdGordon: compile with -lnameoflib |
| 06:53:25 | coob | or man dlopen |
| 06:54:09 | JdGordon | dlopn is used to manually load up a dl... -l automatically does the same? |
| 06:54:45 | JdGordon | i mean, im trying to get this stupid program to compile on unix without having the nescacery libs, but it will be on the target comp... |
| 06:54:55 | JdGordon | so -llib will work without adding any code? |
| 06:58:22 | JdGordon | coob: did any of that make sense? |
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| 07:01:11 | coob | you'll need the libs |
| 07:01:23 | coob | but yes, unless you compile staticlly it wont add any code. |
| 07:03:47 | JdGordon | coob: is there a way to get gcc to let me know which functinos its missing so i can work out which libs are actually needed? |
| 07:05:22 | coob | it should tell you when you try to compile. |
| 07:05:44 | coob | try a generic help channel, this is a channel for rockbox stuff |
| 07:06:08 | JdGordon | ok |
| 07:07:39 | josh_ | JdGordon: you need all the libs so gcc knows *where* the symbols are (more specifically than "in libc" or something) - it relieves some of the stress from ld.so, which is good because that means apps can load faster. |
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| 07:39:31 | infamis | hmm...anyone know how to make & install sdl... |
| 07:40:10 | B4gder | there's an sdl package on rockbox.org for cygwin |
| 07:40:14 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 07:40:17 | infamis | ...under linux |
| 07:40:27 | Jungti1234 | Just alike answer |
| 07:40:28 | infamis | redhat 9 to be exact |
| 07:40:41 | B4gder | download source, configure, make, make install I'd guess |
| 07:41:00 | B4gder | or possibly there's an RPM around |
| 07:41:08 | infamis | what if I don't have the x includes & libs |
| 07:41:37 | B4gder | then you won't be able to build it |
| 07:41:41 | B4gder | I'd guess |
| 07:42:04 | infamis | can I get them from somewhere? |
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| 07:42:17 | B4gder | sure |
| 07:42:40 | B4gder | redhat will offer you X11, and they are also downloadable as source too |
| 07:42:46 | infamis | without recompiling x |
| 07:42:59 | B4gder | you don't need to compile anything to get header files |
| 07:43:03 | infamis | my redhat 9 does not have the includes |
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| 07:43:35 | infamis | only the libs...and sdl can't find the libs on link |
| 07:43:52 | infamis | using -lX11 -lXext |
| 07:45:37 | infamis | basically I spent 4-5 hours trying to get sdl to build & when it finally did, I still got "no available video devices" when running ./rockboxui |
| 07:46:38 | B4gder | and you have all libs it wants to use? |
| 07:46:47 | B4gder | and you have them in dirs the linker will scan for them= |
| 07:46:50 | B4gder | ? |
| 07:47:21 | infamis | yeah I have -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 & ld still gives an error that it couldn't find the lib |
| 07:47:40 | B4gder | then you don't have libX11 ? |
| 07:48:08 | infamis | and also /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2 exists |
| 07:48:18 | infamis | and also /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 exists |
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| 07:52:42 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Paged Scrolling'? |
| 07:53:09 | Jungti1234 | Is it same with 'Screen Scrolls Out Of View'? |
| 07:58:29 | Jungti1234 | anyone? |
| 07:59:00 | infamis | I sure as hell don't know :) |
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| 08:01:26 | Jungti1234 | :'( |
| 08:02:08 | midkay | Jungti1234, paged scrolling means that when the cursor reaches the bottom of the screen, when you press down again it goes to the top of a new screen |
| 08:02:10 | midkay | enable it and try |
| 08:02:46 | Jungti1234 | I did not know its directions. |
| 08:02:50 | midkay | what? |
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| 08:03:17 | Jungti1234 | I didn't know it. |
| 08:03:29 | midkay | it's ok :) but if you try you'll understand better |
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| 08:08:28 | amiconn | wiki spam... |
| 08:08:55 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:09:00 | midkay | lovely. |
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| 08:20:07 | infamis | X11r6.9 here I come :( |
| 08:20:29 | * | B4gder whispers debian... |
| 08:20:32 | B4gder | :-) |
| 08:20:53 | infamis | debian > redhat? |
| 08:21:01 | B4gder | by far I'd say |
| 08:21:13 | infamis | free? |
| 08:21:15 | B4gder | redhat is rpm hell |
| 08:21:24 | B4gder | more free than redhat even |
| 08:21:45 | infamis | I actually paid for redhat!??!? |
| 08:22:06 | B4gder | well, you wouldn't have to since you can download redhat for free |
| 08:22:54 | infamis | yea, tried to like 4 times...on 56k...each download failed the crc or whatever...so I ended up buying the redhat for dummies book that came with the os... |
| 08:23:13 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 08:23:17 | infamis | still have yet to read it |
| 08:23:27 | BHSPitLappy | don't they have a net install? |
| 08:23:53 | B4gder | on 56K I figure buying a CD is cheaper than being online for 2 weeks non-stop for the install :-) |
| 08:24:06 | BHSPitLappy | yeah |
| 08:24:10 | BHSPitLappy | more convenient |
| 08:24:22 | BHSPitLappy | but I would take the challenge ;) |
| 08:24:23 | infamis | right, that's why I just gave in after the 4th download (aka, 3 weeks of tieing up the phone line) |
| 08:25:15 | infamis | we only had one phone line for voice & internet...so, parents didn't like that! |
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| 08:31:56 | infamis | ...what makes one distro better than the other if they're all "linux" & can all run the same programs? |
| 08:33:17 | earHertz | some distros contribute to the republican party |
| 08:33:22 | qwm | different packaging systems, comes with different programs/tools, different goals/purposes, different philosophies.. |
| 08:33:39 | earHertz | otjhers are run by furriners and godless communists |
| 08:33:48 | earHertz | only use sco linux |
| 08:35:50 | BHSPitLappy | pssh |
| 08:36:04 | qwm | are you about to say something stupid, Lappy? |
| 08:36:06 | infamis | hmm |
| 08:36:41 | infamis | crap...building X11 & I'm running out of disk space...20MB free... |
| 08:38:17 | infamis | 16MB free... |
| 08:38:28 | midkay | delete some schitt! quickly! |
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| 08:39:08 | robin_ | is the battery indicator for the nano already working? |
| 08:39:44 | Mikachu | infamis: press ctrl-s in the compiling terminal |
| 08:39:53 | Mikachu | then ctrl-q to resume |
| 08:40:21 | earHertz | don't do it! that's teh misslile lauch code! |
| 08:40:30 | infamis | ??? |
| 08:40:42 | infamis | are you guys trying to mess with me... |
| 08:40:55 | earHertz | I am |
| 08:42:28 | infamis | ctrl s & q...cool |
| 08:42:44 | infamis | I freed up 20MB |
| 08:43:20 | earHertz | delete your porn tyhat's usually about aterrabyte |
| 08:43:25 | midkay | ghaha. |
| 08:43:50 | earHertz | or just /midgets and donkeys |
| 08:43:54 | infamis | I keep that under windows & the NTFS partition isn't writable from linux :( |
| 08:44:05 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 08:44:06 | infamis | or... :) |
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| 08:45:38 | infamis | no need to delete anything.....X11 just gave an error & I don't feel like debugging...I'll just download Debian & start all over tomorrow... |
| 08:46:37 | infamis | well....nighty night...I'm out |
| 08:46:47 | Jungti1234 | bye |
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| 08:57:02 | amiconn | hrmpf. |
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| 08:57:59 | amiconn | Both debian-unstable-amd64 and debian-testing-x86 don't seem to like me... |
| 08:58:35 | midkay | amiconn, well of course, can you blame them? ;) j/k |
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| 09:02:08 | Jungti1234 | ;; |
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| 09:04:00 | amiconn | Ah, I can go down to testing on my amd64 - finally! |
| 09:04:36 | B4gder | I switch to the new cvs builds system now |
| 09:04:59 | JdGordon | whats chaning? |
| 09:05:04 | Jungti1234 | Rich men |
| 09:05:06 | JdGordon | chainging.. |
| 09:05:28 | B4gder | the most visible change for all of us is vastly faster cvs builds |
| 09:06:00 | JdGordon | nice |
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| 09:08:57 | Jungti1234 | sorry |
| 09:09:01 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Clipping light'? |
| 09:09:27 | B4gder | Jungti1234: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2006-02/0497.shtml |
| 09:09:42 | B4gder | the mailing list is good |
| 09:10:49 | Jungti1234 | hehehe thankyou |
| 09:11:09 | Jungti1234 | It's unskillful that I use it. |
| 09:12:39 | Jungti1234 | B4gder, sorry. I don't understand it... |
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| 09:18:36 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:20:31 | Jungti1234 | um.... perhaps.. |
| 09:21:32 | Jungti1234 | Does it keep that backlight are lighted continuously at recording? |
| 09:21:46 | Mikachu | only when clipping |
| 09:23:01 | Jungti1234 | I don't know clipping... |
| 09:23:20 | Jungti1234 | scissoring? cut? |
| 09:23:49 | Mikachu | if the sound from recording is too strong, some parts will be the same when they shouldn't |
| 09:24:11 | Mikachu | http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/kerry.jpg |
| 09:24:14 | Mikachu | like in this picture |
| 09:24:49 | Jungti1234 | .... |
| 09:25:17 | Mikachu | if you still don't understand, i'm sorry |
| 09:25:37 | Jungti1234 | Does it refine sound? |
| 09:26:57 | Jungti1234 | I don't understand well English..... sorry :( |
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| 09:31:24 | Jungti1234 | Mikachu! oh thanks |
| 09:31:44 | Jungti1234 | now I understood it. |
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| 09:43:44 | Mikachu | Jungti1234: great |
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| 09:50:04 | petur | B4gder or Bagder here? |
| 09:50:57 | B4gder | yeps |
| 09:51:30 | petur | nice to split cvs and daily builds, maybe the 'copy' of this on the forums site should be updated as well? |
| 09:51:45 | B4gder | yes |
| 09:51:57 | B4gder | but the forums are done by Jeff et all |
| 09:52:17 | petur | true |
| 09:52:33 | petur | well it's just a detail anyway... |
| 09:52:33 | B4gder | but yes, we should point that out to them |
| 09:53:38 | LinusN | i'm changing it now |
| 09:53:52 | JdGordon | B4gder: while your playying.. get rid of the sim32 builds in the table if they arnt being done anymore...? |
| 09:54:05 | B4gder | they aren't done and they will vanish |
| 09:54:20 | B4gder | that's all automatic |
| 09:54:25 | JdGordon | oh |
| 09:54:41 | petur | ? but there's no build result for them in the table |
| 09:54:48 | petur | anymore |
| 09:55:10 | B4gder | no, but the columns are based on more data than what is visible in the table |
| 09:55:32 | petur | ah I see (or don't to be precise ;) ) |
| 09:55:47 | B4gder | the first pass of the scripts gathers all build types |
| 09:55:57 | B4gder | and the second output the last N entries |
| 09:56:07 | B4gder | simply speaking |
| 09:56:39 | B4gder | and thus "all types" are all existing in the build logs we have, and we have N days backlog |
| 09:57:13 | B4gder | so it takes N days for a build to vanish |
| 09:57:17 | petur | I'm sure there's a reason for this |
| 09:57:21 | B4gder | with N being 8 I believe |
| 09:57:45 | B4gder | well, it can of course be improved |
| 09:57:53 | B4gder | I just find it not that important |
| 09:58:11 | petur | not important, just a bit confusing |
| 09:58:40 | B4gder | I think most people understand that a blank column means it isn't building |
| 10:00 |
| 10:11:27 | JdGordon | does any1 know if rockword can edit txt files on the player? |
| 10:11:50 | petur | I think it only edits txt files |
| 10:12:47 | JdGordon | hmm.. im getting incompatible version.. gonna haveta compile it myself. |
| 10:13:02 | LinusN | the forum menu is updated |
| 10:13:53 | B4gder | and the cvs build takes a very long time... :-/ |
| 10:14:19 | LinusN | several seconds? :-) |
| 10:14:29 | B4gder | expected to complete around 09:00:42 |
| 10:14:45 | LinusN | oh |
| 10:14:57 | LinusN | booo |
| 10:15:08 | petur | your code is too complex :) |
| 10:18:02 | B4gder | I need to add some clever logs for me to check build server status |
| 10:23:28 | petur | and your averaging calc is a tiny bit off too: 38 builds in 733 seconds makes 19 seconds/build :P |
| 10:23:50 | earHertz | builds take a lot longer than they did twio years ago |
| 10:23:52 | earHertz | a lot longer |
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| 10:23:53 | earHertz | and my compile machine is 4 times fastrs and with twice teh cpus as two years ago |
| 10:23:55 | earHertz | anyone use teh DatabaseV2? |
| 10:24:30 | petur | does gcc use multiple cpu? |
| 10:24:43 | LinusN | no |
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| 10:24:45 | B4gder | petur: why is that off? |
| 10:25:04 | LinusN | 733/38=20 |
| 10:25:15 | B4gder | if you round it, yes |
| 10:25:21 | LinusN | hex |
| 10:25:31 | petur | off from the actual build times I meant... |
| 10:25:38 | B4gder | 19.28 |
| 10:25:38 | B4gder | I'd say |
| 10:25:46 | petur | by several orders of magnitude... |
| 10:25:50 | B4gder | ? |
| 10:25:58 | B4gder | how do you know? |
| 10:26:15 | B4gder | you haven't seen these builds before |
| 10:26:37 | B4gder | we've run this for many days and I'd say that build time is about accurate |
| 10:26:47 | LinusN | i see them now, and it has so far taken 28 minutes :-P |
| 10:26:52 | B4gder | you're thinking about the old builds |
| 10:27:22 | B4gder | well we can never know how long a new build will take |
| 10:27:27 | LinusN | 38 |
| 10:27:31 | B4gder | only how long previous builds have taken |
| 10:27:48 | LinusN | i guess one of the build machines has problems |
| 10:27:57 | B4gder | and of course with distributde builds, one or few server problems will affect build times drastically |
| 10:27:57 | petur | nevermind, I don't know the build system so I don't know what I'm talking about anyway... |
| 10:28:03 | JdGordon | if you want faster builds put more errors in them !!! |
| 10:28:06 | JdGordon | :D |
| 10:28:42 | B4gder | the build time is based on the previous 4 builds |
| 10:29:07 | petur | are we distributed already? |
| 10:29:10 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:29:26 | B4gder | this is three machines building |
| 10:29:34 | coob | add more machines :) |
| 10:29:36 | petur | wow, ok.. that explains the 19 seconds... |
| 10:29:47 | B4gder | I'm in the process of adding another build server |
| 10:30:17 | B4gder | I'll announce the news soon |
| 10:30:21 | B4gder | and ask for more servers |
| 10:30:37 | JdGordon | ill dontae my comp to the cause.. |
| 10:30:49 | JdGordon | i assume its just install distcc and give u the ip? |
| 10:31:00 | B4gder | no |
| 10:31:07 | B4gder | distcc wasn't good enough for us |
| 10:31:12 | JdGordon | oh.. |
| 10:31:27 | B4gder | distcc is only good if you have really fast net and slow compiles |
| 10:31:43 | B4gder | we have slow net and quite fast compiles |
| 10:31:58 | B4gder | thus we hand out "complete" builds to the server |
| 10:32:15 | B4gder | and transfer the complete results back |
| 10:32:59 | B4gder | t0mas is the man behind the buildscript going distributed |
| 10:33:16 | JdGordon | ok |
| 10:33:49 | petur | maybe instead of the score, you could show how many servers were used to compile, and have some indicator of the number that's available at the moment... |
| 10:34:08 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:35:13 | JdGordon | how long was each buikd b4? |
| 10:35:31 | B4gder | ~60 seconds |
| 10:36:22 | JdGordon | hmm... does cygwin really slow it down? or is my comp just shite?? im at 4min already :p |
| 10:36:35 | petur | blame cygwin |
| 10:36:50 | B4gder | cygwin is MUST slower |
| 10:36:53 | B4gder | MUCH |
| 10:37:01 | petur | HEY I thought you were on colinux? |
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| 10:37:06 | B4gder | anyone tried ccache on cygwin? |
| 10:39:03 | JdGordon | petur: u talknig to me? |
| 10:39:14 | petur | yes |
| 10:39:21 | JdGordon | setting up the image now |
| 10:39:36 | petur | ah |
| 10:40:00 | * | petur gives his memorybanks another kick |
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| 10:42:36 | Jungti1234__ | wow.. |
| 10:42:37 | Jungti1234__ | http://www.pmplab.org/ |
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| 10:45:51 | Jungti1234__ | http://www.pmplab.org/bbs/data/screenshot/STA70018.JPG |
| 10:46:19 | B4gder | what's there? |
| 10:46:36 | Jungti1234__ | um.. |
| 10:46:58 | Jungti1234__ | It's similar with Rockbox. |
| 10:47:33 | JdGordon | is there an english site? |
| 10:47:53 | Jungti1234__ | sorry. Isn't. |
| 10:48:04 | Jungti1234__ | http://www.pmplab.org/bbs/data/screenshot/DSCF0007.JPG |
| 10:48:22 | B4gder | for the iriver pmp then I guess? |
| 10:48:36 | Jungti1234__ | iStation |
| 10:49:36 | Jungti1234__ | http://www.pmplab.org/bbs/data/screenshot/%BB%E7%C1%F80045.jpg - windows.. haha |
| 10:50:02 | petur | Serch? |
| 10:50:09 | Jungti1234__ | no |
| 10:50:09 | Jungti1234__ | search |
| 10:50:17 | XavierGr | uf, does anyone has any previous experience with iriver Germany over the phone? |
| 10:50:23 | Jungti1234__ | Wrong spelling |
| 10:50:33 | JdGordon | hahah @ windows |
| 10:50:56 | petur | W2K isn't that bad... |
| 10:51:24 | t0mas | [10:36:28] <JdGordon> hmm... does cygwin really slow it down? or is my comp just shite?? im at 4min already :p |
| 10:51:37 | t0mas | cygwin is really SLOW, and we use ccache to speed up the builds... |
| 10:51:46 | petur | In fact it's the first and last decent windows version they made... |
| 10:51:48 | t0mas | my normal linux builds take > 1 min. too |
| 10:52:04 | B4gder | t0mas: I'm running the script as my user now |
| 10:52:10 | B4gder | something is seriously weird |
| 10:52:34 | Jungti1234__ | http://www.pmplab.org/bbs/screenshot/1135513058/SSL10288.jpg |
| 10:52:36 | Jungti1234__ | hahaha KOF |
| 10:52:48 | B4gder | kof? |
| 10:53:07 | JdGordon | 404 |
| 10:53:09 | petur | no, 404 |
| 10:53:33 | petur | seems previuos cvs build failed completely |
| 10:54:07 | XavierGr | doh |
| 10:54:14 | petur | good that Linus is committing X5 stuff at high tempo to test it |
| 10:54:22 | Jungti1234__ | B4gder: yes, King of Fighters |
| 10:54:42 | t0mas | B4gder: have you killed mine? |
| 10:54:51 | B4gder | Jungti1234 and that is... ? |
| 10:54:53 | B4gder | t0mas: yes |
| 10:55:03 | Jungti1234__ | game |
| 10:55:08 | t0mas | running as your uid, in my install dir? |
| 10:55:10 | B4gder | t0mas: after ~40 minutes building |
| 10:55:16 | B4gder | t0mas: yes |
| 10:55:22 | t0mas | that might be a problem |
| 10:55:34 | B4gder | ok, you can run it instead |
| 10:55:51 | B4gder | we need finegrained debug info on the build I guess |
| 10:55:57 | t0mas | I have that |
| 10:56:05 | t0mas | tail -f /home/tomas/rockbox-auto/dgblog |
| 10:56:06 | B4gder | especially if the servers are down |
| 10:56:13 | B4gder | that log had three lines |
| 10:56:17 | t0mas | it prints out warnings there |
| 10:56:17 | B4gder | after ~40 minutes |
| 10:56:24 | t0mas | what was it? |
| 10:56:52 | B4gder | DBG: Cvs update done, diff = 1 |
| 10:56:52 | B4gder | DBG: Creating temp. buildpage. |
| 10:56:52 | B4gder | DBG: Building now... |
| 10:57:05 | t0mas | ok, and it never got to building |
| 10:57:15 | B4gder | it stuck in a ssh process |
| 10:57:17 | t0mas | jup |
| 10:57:19 | t0mas | and I know why |
| 10:57:28 | B4gder | ok |
| 10:57:28 | t0mas | you didn't have the host keys for those servers... |
| 10:57:35 | B4gder | but that was your build |
| 10:57:42 | t0mas | my uid? |
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| 10:57:50 | B4gder | which made me start fiddling |
| 10:58:26 | B4gder | do restart a build with your user and see that it works |
| 10:58:46 | B4gder | t0mas: the ssh process took lots of cpu % so it wasn't just hanging |
| 10:58:49 | earHertz | holy crap. the top googgle result for "knuth christmas lectures" is the rockbox mail archive |
| 10:58:51 | JdGordon | which version of gcc should i put into the colinux image? the crosscompiler wiki page has a diff version for all the targets.. |
| 10:59:14 | B4gder | JdGordon: that's correct, you should use the ones for the specific targets to get best results |
| 10:59:44 | t0mas | B4gder, these look kind of weird: |
| 10:59:45 | t0mas | 24834 pts/19 00:00:00 find <defunct> |
| 10:59:45 | t0mas | 24949 pts/19 00:38:24 ssh <defunct> |
| 10:59:53 | B4gder | t0mas: I noticed that too |
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| 11:00:04 | LinusN | JdGordon: each target has its own version of the gcc compiler |
| 11:00:04 | petur | earHertz: not here |
| 11:00:08 | B4gder | the ssh one might be caused by my kill |
| 11:00:24 | t0mas | hmm... |
| 11:00:30 | t0mas | I can't kill them |
| 11:00:36 | earHertz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=knuth+christmas+lectures&spell=1 |
| 11:00:38 | t0mas | same for these: |
| 11:00:39 | t0mas | 24951 pts/19 00:00:00 ssh |
| 11:00:39 | t0mas | 24953 pts/19 00:00:00 ssh |
| 11:00:52 | petur | earHertz: and I blame him for ever making cweb ... |
| 11:01:03 | earHertz | cweb? |
| 11:01:04 | B4gder | t0mas: yeps, I tried to kill them too as root |
| 11:01:16 | t0mas | killed |
| 11:01:26 | t0mas | tomas@labb:~$ ps -U tomas |
| 11:01:32 | t0mas | just 3 nice working processes |
| 11:01:33 | skwad | LinusN: is the power button working on your simulator for x5 ? |
| 11:01:41 | petur | earHertz: yes... don't go near it |
| 11:01:46 | LinusN | skwad: i have no idea |
| 11:01:55 | B4gder | t0mas: ok, so force a buildmaster.pl build and see if you can make it build fine |
| 11:02:03 | petur | earHertz: google.be gives completely different results as google.com |
| 11:02:04 | t0mas | -rw-rw-r−− 1 dast dast 2935 Feb 27 10:48 chlog-2006-02-27 09:48:00.html |
| 11:02:04 | t0mas | -rw-rw-r−− 1 dast dast 3731 Feb 27 10:51 chlog-2006-02-27 09:51:36.html |
| 11:02:04 | skwad | ok no problem, |
| 11:02:06 | t0mas | -rw-rw-r−− 1 dast dast 3731 Feb 27 10:55 chlog-2006-02-27 09:55:02.html |
| 11:02:09 | t0mas | those should be mine :) |
| 11:02:11 | B4gder | ahg |
| 11:02:11 | t0mas | can you change that? |
| 11:02:15 | LinusN | skwad: i doubt that it works as a power button anyhow |
| 11:02:19 | t0mas | chown -R tomas:rockbox * |
| 11:02:27 | t0mas | in rockbox-auto would be good |
| 11:03:09 | skwad | LinusN: I tried many times but it is like the power button doesn't work |
| 11:03:13 | B4gder | t0mas: done |
| 11:03:16 | t0mas | ok |
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| 11:03:42 | B4gder | t0mas: as you might've spotted, we now use these builds on the site |
| 11:03:47 | t0mas | jup |
| 11:03:48 | B4gder | and I shut off the old builds |
| 11:04:02 | t0mas | have you moved anything? |
| 11:04:12 | B4gder | no, I'm symlinking to your stuff |
| 11:04:43 | LinusN | skwad: what do expect to happen when you push it? |
| 11:05:01 | skwad | i tried with plugin mandelbrot, it should exit |
| 11:06:19 | LinusN | skwad: maybe you need to fix the sim button driver then? |
| 11:06:35 | linuxstb_ | The problem with the X5 sim is that both PLAY and POWER are mapped to the same button (PLUS) in uisimulator/sdl/button.c |
| 11:06:56 | LinusN | btw, using the power switch as a regular button is pretty awkward anyway |
| 11:07:04 | LinusN | on the x5 |
| 11:07:07 | t0mas | B4gder: it has some problems with the privkey... |
| 11:07:09 | t0mas | touched that? |
| 11:07:47 | skwad | ok |
| 11:10:04 | t0mas | B4gder: ok, it stopped working because you chowned the private key |
| 11:10:25 | t0mas | it must be owner by the user, and have mode 600 |
| 11:10:51 | linuxstb_ | Have the distributed builds gone live now? |
| 11:10:52 | t0mas | if you change that, the ssh process will just give a warning and hang |
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| 11:11:08 | t0mas | B4gder: and you've edited some of my debug lines? |
| 11:12:03 | B4gder | t0mas: it didn't hang, it ran at high cpu |
| 11:12:19 | t0mas | maybe it got in a loop |
| 11:12:23 | t0mas | no servers availible... |
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| 11:14:18 | amiconn | wiki spam... |
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| 11:14:51 | petur | it's the same guy again |
| 11:14:56 | t0mas | this one: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AqejvqrGuy ? |
| 11:15:09 | JdGordon | ok, i just installed ssh and when i try to login my ssh client just closes??? do i need to do something on the linux box to enable users to login? |
| 11:15:49 | t0mas | putty? |
| 11:16:01 | JdGordon | ye, putty closes |
| 11:16:08 | t0mas | thats a setting... |
| 11:16:13 | t0mas | on the main settings screen |
| 11:16:21 | t0mas | "Close window on exit" |
| 11:16:24 | t0mas | set it to never |
| 11:16:24 | XavierGr | Linus is it intended that the H300 starts with a long press of PLAY instead of normal press? |
| 11:16:30 | t0mas | and try again, then you should see the error |
| 11:17:28 | LinusN | XavierGr: yes |
| 11:17:59 | XavierGr | is there a reason, or? |
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| 11:19:28 | petur | avoid accidental press? |
| 11:19:30 | LinusN | to prevent that you turn it on by mistake in your pocket |
| 11:19:50 | LinusN | granted, the h300 buttons are quite hard to press by mistake |
| 11:19:53 | JdGordon | t0mas: cant find the setting :p |
| 11:19:55 | XavierGr | cause the buttons are on top? Because H100 starts with normal press |
| 11:19:59 | XavierGr | ah okay |
| 11:20:16 | petur | and you can always use the hold key.... |
| 11:20:23 | t0mas | JdGordon: when you start putty, you have to type in the hostname etc right? |
| 11:20:30 | JdGordon | ye |
| 11:20:33 | t0mas | on that screen, bottom... just above the ok button |
| 11:20:40 | JdGordon | oh bugger |
| 11:20:42 | JdGordon | sorry |
| 11:20:45 | LinusN | XavierGr: also, the h300 onkey handling hardware is quite different from the h100 |
| 11:20:52 | t0mas | B4gder: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 11:20:55 | t0mas | it's working again |
| 11:21:12 | JdGordon | "connection closed by remote host" |
| 11:22:02 | petur | what about this: if you press on and then nothing within 30 seconds, power down again.... |
| 11:22:04 | t0mas | the right port? |
| 11:22:07 | t0mas | ssh, 22 |
| 11:22:09 | t0mas | not telnet, 23? |
| 11:22:18 | JdGordon | yup |
| 11:22:33 | JdGordon | is there something on the linux box i could have not done? |
| 11:22:50 | t0mas | hm... |
| 11:22:58 | t0mas | try local ssh... |
| 11:23:03 | t0mas | on the box: ssh root@localhost |
| 11:23:29 | JdGordon | connection closed by 127.0.0.1 |
| 11:24:17 | B4gder | t0mas: goodie, thanks |
| 11:24:19 | petur | B4gder: cvs builds back ok, but the 2 commits by Linus didn't make it to the homepage |
| 11:24:40 | * | t0mas thinkgs he knows why.. |
| 11:24:46 | B4gder | we don't want Linus' commits to be that visible |
| 11:24:48 | B4gder | ;-) |
| 11:24:56 | t0mas | indeed, it's my oops commit filter |
| 11:25:09 | t0mas | it will wait for Linus' oops commit, combine those... and put that on the homepage |
| 11:25:24 | B4gder | ok, I'll fix it to use the correct file |
| 11:25:39 | t0mas | it outputs in my homedir I guess... |
| 11:25:43 | B4gder | yes |
| 11:25:45 | markun | JdGordon: I've made a HSV color picker, but it's not perfect |
| 11:25:48 | B4gder | and it still shows the old file |
| 11:26:25 | B4gder | fixed |
| 11:27:14 | amiconn | The SDL sim 'Off' button has problems on cygwin. It's mappend to numpad_enter, but somehow that doesn't work |
| 11:27:25 | amiconn | Under linux it's fine. I blame SDL |
| 11:27:27 | skwad | for x5 ? |
| 11:27:38 | amiconn | For all sims that use it |
| 11:27:43 | skwad | oh ok |
| 11:27:47 | LinusN | skwad: x5 doesn't have an off button |
| 11:27:48 | amiconn | x5, h300, h120, recorder... |
| 11:27:54 | t0mas | B4gder: time to setup the others server, and get really fast :) |
| 11:27:57 | skwad | oops :D |
| 11:27:58 | amiconn | LinusN: Yes, it's Power instead |
| 11:28:11 | B4gder | t0mas: yes, I'm working on that now actually |
| 11:28:17 | t0mas | ok, cool |
| 11:28:21 | markun | amiconn: I changed the button from 'return' to 'kp_enter' with my gigabeat commit |
| 11:28:23 | skwad | but my kp enter won't work too in cygwin :S |
| 11:28:25 | * | amiconn feels the need to get builds going on amd64 |
| 11:28:26 | B4gder | first up is a dual athlon 2200 |
| 11:28:31 | petur | under windows, enter is directed to the default control unless you change that behaviour... |
| 11:28:56 | B4gder | should be faster than the current main build server |
| 11:29:07 | * | t0mas feels the need to fix a bug |
| 11:29:38 | t0mas | oh, it wasn't there... |
| 11:29:51 | * | amiconn want's to participate with his Athlon64 3800+ |
| 11:30:03 | earHertz | somebody remind me what teh outputs on an archios FM are? headphone and what else? |
| 11:30:13 | * | t0mas wants to trade his Athlon XP 3200+ for an Athlox X2 4800+ ;) |
| 11:30:25 | t0mas | *Athlon |
| 11:30:30 | JdGordon | earHertz: line-out? |
| 11:30:34 | JdGordon | optical out? |
| 11:31:14 | earHertz | thnaks |
| 11:31:15 | petur | t0mas: I also want to put a dual core in my socket939... but waiting for prices to come down a bit... |
| 11:32:02 | t0mas | yeah... or for my bank saldo to go up a bit :) |
| 11:32:06 | skwad | amiconn: you were right, i mapped the power button to kp1 instead of kpenter and it works |
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| 11:34:08 | t0mas | B4gder: no ipod 3g links here: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 11:34:14 | t0mas | for the bleeding edge |
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| 11:35:19 | B4gder | I can see one! |
| 11:35:22 | B4gder | ... now ;-) |
| 11:35:26 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 11:35:47 | t0mas | How have I missed that ;) |
| 11:35:54 | B4gder | how's that iPod mini progressing btw linuxstb? |
| 11:36:56 | t0mas | oh, talking about ipods... I've almost convinced the tech. editor that alternative ipod firmwares attract enough public to justify an article about it |
| 11:38:08 | petur | but is it 'ready enough' for communication to the masses? |
| 11:38:16 | ScoTTie | i submitted a patch for ipod mini button support |
| 11:38:30 | ScoTTie | but it hasnt been added to the cvs yet |
| 11:38:32 | t0mas | petur: not yet... |
| 11:38:36 | B4gder | ScoTTie: is that the only thing stopping the ordinary user? |
| 11:38:43 | t0mas | but the release cycle of those magazines is pretty long... |
| 11:38:55 | B4gder | "ordinary" might be a bit wrong but... |
| 11:38:57 | t0mas | I have 2 other articles queued up... 1/month |
| 11:39:00 | petur | I admit progress here is fast :) |
| 11:39:10 | ScoTTie | well it doesnt seem to play mp3's |
| 11:39:13 | ScoTTie | atleast the ones i tried |
| 11:39:14 | t0mas | so if I get it through, it will be up for the June edition... |
| 11:39:24 | ScoTTie | but the keypad doesnt work at all without my patch |
| 11:39:29 | t0mas | we might have a 2.6 release by then :) |
| 11:39:38 | B4gder | t0mas: you gonna write that article? |
| 11:39:55 | t0mas | if they like it, yes |
| 11:39:59 | B4gder | B4gder: I got a question from an ipod site about "someone" who'd like to write such a piece |
| 11:40:03 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: I can have a look at your patch now, and commit it if there's no problem. |
| 11:40:11 | petur | unbiassed like most comp tech articles :P |
| 11:40:11 | B4gder | or rather, petur did |
| 11:40:34 | petur | or rather, I wrote them :) |
| 11:40:44 | ScoTTie | ok cool :) |
| 11:40:47 | B4gder | yes, but they replied with a question for it ;-) |
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| 11:42:42 | t0mas | B4gder: does our license permit it to distributed a rockbox installer + archives on a cd with the magazine? We normally put small software that's not as accessible as we like on the cd.. |
| 11:43:04 | t0mas | because for some people it's difficult to read the English website, and get the right files |
| 11:43:06 | B4gder | yes, our license permits that |
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| 11:47:21 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Your current patch doesn't apply cleanly against CVS - would you be able to update it? |
| 11:47:35 | ScoTTie | i guess |
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| 11:49:14 | linuxstb | You should just need to do cvs update, resolve any conflicts, and then produce a new patch. |
| 11:49:51 | linuxstb | There is no rush - I'll be around all day. |
| 11:50:25 | ScoTTie | ill do it now, just had a big weekend and im still suffering ;) |
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| 11:58:09 | XavierGr | wow that was helpfull |
| 11:58:32 | XavierGr | I telephoned iriver Germany and they accpted that they didn't repair my player. |
| 11:59:02 | petur | wtf? |
| 11:59:15 | XavierGr | more on that because I paid postage expenses they will give me another H100 LCD remote. |
| 11:59:16 | petur | they admitted that they did nothing? |
| 11:59:20 | XavierGr | yesz |
| 11:59:39 | petur | will they fix it now? |
| 11:59:47 | t0mas | huh? what? |
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| 12:00:15 | linuxstb | Did they give a reason why they did nothing? |
| 12:00:48 | XavierGr | wait a sec i am on the phone |
| 12:01:49 | JdGordon | another lcd emote??? wanna donate 1 to me if u have more than 1? |
| 12:02:19 | markun | linuxstb: I've made a HSV colour picker, but there are still some problems to sort out |
| 12:03:27 | XavierGr | JdGordon sorry my cousin has the priority over this |
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| 12:03:44 | JdGordon | haha |
| 12:03:45 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:03:50 | XavierGr | he has an H340 without lcd remote |
| 12:04:16 | XavierGr | but yes te guy I talked admited that the player came here for 4 days and there were no repairs |
| 12:04:33 | XavierGr | here = there |
| 12:05:39 | linuxstb | markun: How well does it work on a mono remote? |
| 12:05:59 | markun | linuxstb: not very well I guess :) |
| 12:06:02 | linuxstb | :) |
| 12:06:11 | XavierGr | now let's remove rockbox before RMAing it second time ;) |
| 12:06:24 | Jungti1234__ | markun |
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| 12:06:56 | linuxstb | markun: I don't think that should stop us using it though, but it needs some thought., |
| 12:07:10 | markun | linuxstb: without visual feedback it's hard to know which Hue value corresponds to which colour |
| 12:07:54 | markun | linuxstb: a textual representation would be nice (also for us with color vision problems) |
| 12:09:09 | linuxstb | Maybe on colour displays, the user should be able to switch between different modes (RGB sliders, HSV, textual), and on mono displays (such as the remote), there would be fewer options. |
| 12:09:12 | Jungti1234__ | Kick Jungti1234. |
| 12:09:37 | linuxstb | markun: Do you have a screenshot of how it looks? |
| 12:10:09 | markun | linuxstb: currently it's just a hack. You move the RGB sliders (which represent HSV) and you see the result in the colour box |
| 12:10:19 | linuxstb | Also, on a different subject, does the CSV sdl sim work on freebsd? |
| 12:10:37 | markun | no, it doesn't |
| 12:10:59 | markun | I can make you a patch, maybe you can clean it up and make it work for OSX too? |
| 12:11:37 | linuxstb | was just planning to look at it after you committed it to cvs. |
| 12:11:44 | linuxstb | ^I |
| 12:12:04 | markun | It needs some work |
| 12:12:19 | linuxstb | No-one seems to be shouting for a sim that works in Mac OS. |
| 12:12:33 | markun | And I don't have a linux machine to test if I don't break anything |
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| 12:13:33 | markun | linuxstb: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/freebsd.patch |
| 12:14:46 | markun | linuxstb: I just replaced sdl-config by sdl11-config, but of course this is not a nice solution |
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| 12:16:26 | safetydan | linuxstb, no reason the current SDL sim shouldn't compile under OSX... |
| 12:16:52 | linuxstb | The Rockbox build system doesn't recognise Darwin afaik. |
| 12:17:30 | safetydan | ah... that could be a problem |
| 12:17:57 | linuxstb | I did try getting it to work a few weeks ago, and got as far as the sim starting, but it just froze, and refused to accept any keyboard input. I'm planning to try again sometime soon. |
| 12:23:30 | linuxstb | Zagor: Do you know what's going on with the mime types for attachments on the patch tracker? Firefox is telling me that some are "BIN files", others are of type text/x-patch and some are text/plain - these examples are all ".patch" files. |
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| 12:24:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: It probably depends on how they were uploaded or something. |
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| 12:26:14 | linuxstb | That's what I'm guessing. But it seems a Bad Thing to rely on the mime type the user's browser says the file is. |
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| 12:26:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I agree on that one. |
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| 12:38:57 | steveb | anyone here know about the album art thing in the latest h300 build? |
| 12:39:40 | skwad | what do you mean ? |
| 12:39:48 | steveb | i am using the latest release but the album art doesnt work |
| 12:40:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | You meant the h300 optimized? |
| 12:40:12 | steveb | should cover.bmp have any special capitalisation? |
| 12:40:13 | steveb | yeh |
| 12:40:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's something you'll generally need to ask about at the misticriver forums. |
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| 12:40:38 | steveb | thought so |
| 12:40:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | The "optimized" isn't an official build. |
| 12:40:44 | skwad | shouldn't it be 100 * 100 pixel ? |
| 12:40:45 | steveb | i know |
| 12:41:02 | linuxstb | Is your bmp file 24-bit? |
| 12:41:03 | steveb | i just thought i would ask quickly here just in case :) |
| 12:41:06 | steveb | ah |
| 12:41:09 | steveb | not sure actually |
| 12:41:14 | * | steveb checks |
| 12:41:14 | linuxstb | I know the patch vaguely. |
| 12:41:40 | linuxstb | If it's 16-bit, it won't work, but I think other types will. Or if it uses compression it won't work. |
| 12:41:45 | linuxstb | (I think...) |
| 12:42:49 | steveb | thanks. good to know |
| 12:43:09 | linuxstb | (that's a limitation of the Rockbox bmp loader - it's not specific to the album art patch). |
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| 12:43:15 | steveb | yeh |
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| 12:43:34 | steveb | gqview says the compression is 101.7%... |
| 12:43:44 | steveb | not sure if this is correct or just gqview being screwy |
| 12:43:59 | linuxstb | It's probably uncompressed then - the extra 1.7% could be the header. |
| 12:44:06 | steveb | ah yes |
| 12:44:18 | steveb | now... how to find out the amount of bits... |
| 12:44:47 | linuxstb | Do you have cygwin installed? |
| 12:45:21 | steveb | no. |
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| 12:46:11 | linuxstb | Does Windows explorer tell you anything if you ask for the properties of the file? |
| 12:46:16 | steveb | i use linux ;) |
| 12:46:21 | linuxstb | Ah. |
| 12:46:26 | linuxstb | Just type "file cover.bmp" then. |
| 12:46:50 | linuxstb | It should give you a line ending in "width x height x depth" |
| 12:46:51 | steveb | cover.bmp: PC bitmap data, Windows 3.x format, 75 x 75 x 24 # seems to be ok :-/ |
| 12:47:05 | steveb | i always forget the 'file' command |
| 12:47:09 | * | steveb stabs self |
| 12:47:43 | linuxstb | In which case, it's probably an error in your wps file. |
| 12:48:12 | steveb | maybe. i will try with a couple of others |
| 12:48:41 | linuxstb | The format has changed slightly in different versions of the album art patch. I don't know which version the h300 "optimised" build is using. |
| 12:48:50 | steveb | yeh :-/ |
| 12:49:12 | steveb | oh well nm |
| 12:49:18 | steveb | its no big deal anyway. |
| 12:49:22 | steveb | just would be kinda cool |
| 12:49:25 | JdGordon | can any1 try and ssh to 220.239.137.122 user rockdev pass rb and lemme know if it connects? |
| 12:49:35 | steveb | i am stunned at how fast the development seems to be going |
| 12:50:18 | muesli__ | moin |
| 12:50:30 | steveb | JdGordon: it connects but when you type the password it disconnects |
| 12:50:36 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Same here. |
| 12:50:40 | JdGordon | ok, so its not just me |
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| 12:50:50 | JdGordon | any1 wanna have a guess why??? |
| 12:51:04 | linuxstb | You should be able to see something in the logs on your Linux machine - /var/log/syslog I think |
| 12:51:13 | steveb | yeh. or /var/log/messages |
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| 12:51:31 | steveb | could just be a wrong password |
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| 12:52:34 | JdGordon | no, pass is correct.. the only thing that looks sus is this from auth.log |
| 12:52:34 | JdGordon | Feb 27 06:51:49 colinux sshd[1877]: WARNING: /etc/ssh/moduli does not exist, usi |
| 12:52:35 | JdGordon | ng old modulus |
| 12:52:48 | linuxstb | Does user rockdev have a home directory set up? Can you log in locally as that user? |
| 12:52:55 | JdGordon | yep |
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| 13:13:36 | petur | damn.. I broke pre-recording when I enhanced clipping detection :( |
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| 13:14:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Linuxstb: I think I even suggested to them once or twice they use the WPS Gallery earlier in that thread. It seems for some reason people *want* to not use it. |
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| 13:14:39 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I know you've mentioned it as well. Maybe it's too complicated, or too "official". |
| 13:15:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I know some people have said "I'm not ready to submit it yet" in the past, but I tried to explain to them that the Wiki isn't really submission for inclusion. |
| 13:17:10 | ScoTTie | linuxstb: i added a new patch |
| 13:17:44 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Thanks. I'm looking at it now. |
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| 13:21:48 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: There's one thing I'm not sure about (maybe others can help) - you've added a BUTTON_HOLD definition. I don't think BUTTON_HOLD events should be treated the same as other buttons - there is a button_hold() function that needs implementing which returns true or false. |
| 13:22:25 | ScoTTie | your right |
| 13:22:34 | ScoTTie | but was part of the ipodlinux code |
| 13:22:49 | ScoTTie | it would be safe to remove it, hold works without it. |
| 13:23:40 | linuxstb | OK - I'll remove the "#define BUTTON_HOLD 0x0100" line, and also the "btn |= BUTTON_HOLD" line. |
| 13:24:02 | linuxstb | Or should I just remove the whole if {} around the btn |= BUTTON_HOLD ? |
| 13:24:29 | ScoTTie | remove the whole if |
| 13:24:45 | ScoTTie | and :done |
| 13:25:16 | linuxstb | OK. |
| 13:25:31 | linuxstb | I'll just test you haven't broken the button handling for other ipods, and then commit it. |
| 13:27:02 | linuxstb | Have you learnt anything more about the differences between the first and second generation minis? Any views about whether they need different builds? |
| 13:27:17 | ScoTTie | the main difference is in the buttons |
| 13:27:31 | linuxstb | So your driver only works on first gen minis? |
| 13:27:49 | ScoTTie | i think 2g will use the 4g button code path (or similar) |
| 13:27:59 | ScoTTie | i would assume so |
| 13:28:15 | ScoTTie | i figured you would detect at runtime what version it was |
| 13:28:31 | ScoTTie | because if thats the only difference you dont really need 2 builds |
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| 13:29:13 | linuxstb | Lets wait for a 2g owner to come along, and we can decide then. |
| 13:29:54 | linuxstb | If you turn the hold button on on your mini, do you get a "lock" symbol appearing? |
| 13:30:08 | ScoTTie | the hold button works without my button code |
| 13:30:14 | JdGordon | does any1 know if cygwin works from a usb disk? |
| 13:30:47 | petur | I know it can work just by copying the whole tree |
| 13:30:53 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: The hardware itself stops the button interrupts when the hold switch is on. I'm asking if Rockbox correctly detects the hold switch status - if it does, you will see a lock symbol in the status bar. |
| 13:30:59 | petur | but it stores some stuff in the registry |
| 13:31:32 | ScoTTie | i mean, rockbox correctly displays the hold buttons status. even before my patch. |
| 13:31:41 | linuxstb | That's fine then. |
| 13:31:42 | petur | JdGordon: so you can't run it from two locations on the same pc |
| 13:32:07 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Does USB detection work? Does it reboot to disk mode? |
| 13:32:09 | JdGordon | petur: i just tryed renameing the tree and it didnt work |
| 13:32:13 | ScoTTie | yes |
| 13:32:22 | ScoTTie | i wasnt quite sure what to do with that hold code. so i left it as it was in iPL. |
| 13:32:22 | * | JdGordon wants to put cygwin no my h300 so i can dev at uni |
| 13:32:52 | ScoTTie | it doesnt however when you start it with the usb in already |
| 13:33:05 | linuxstb | That should have been fixed a couple of days ago. |
| 13:33:13 | linuxstb | (it was a general Rockbox bug) |
| 13:33:29 | ScoTTie | ok, i havnt tested rockbox since i submitted my patch. |
| 13:33:42 | petur | JdGordon: maybe clear some registry stuff? If you put it on your H3xx it will be 1) even more slow 2) hard to develop and test in parallel... |
| 13:34:47 | JdGordon | petur: umm.. didnt think of that.. i guess i meant copy it off the disk when i get to uni... but i doubt i would ad to the reg.. |
| 13:34:51 | ScoTTie | let me look at the keyboard.c code from iPL |
| 13:35:03 | ScoTTie | ill see what codepath the 2g uses |
| 13:35:36 | linuxstb | ScoTTie: Patch now committed. |
| 13:35:47 | ScoTTie | thanks |
| 13:37:04 | Zagor | linuxstb: I think flyspray is running "file −−mime" on the files, and blindly use what it returns |
| 13:38:46 | t0mas | B4gder? how far are you with the new server? |
| 13:40:45 | linuxstb | Zagor: Are you sure? I've tried "file −−mime" on a couple of files I've downloaded from the patch tracker, and it's giving me "text/x-c" |
| 13:40:52 | linuxstb | (I'm running Debian unstable) |
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| 13:41:41 | Zagor | I manually changed all patches to text/plain when converting from sourceforge |
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| 13:42:10 | Zagor | from that experience, I know they can get a lot of different types depending on content |
| 13:45:45 | ScoTTie | someone should add an ipod mini build to the site |
| 13:45:46 | ScoTTie | :) |
| 13:46:16 | amiconn | Does playback work already? |
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| 14:02:14 | Zagor | F/P/B prefix added to flyspray mails (Feature request / Patch / Bug) |
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| 14:25:53 | erus` | yo |
| 14:26:04 | erus` | on linux how do i install all the files like stdio.h ? |
| 14:27:16 | ashridah | you need the libc6 development package |
| 14:27:22 | LinusN | you need to have the libc6 dev files |
| 14:27:25 | ashridah | depends on your distro what the package'll be called |
| 14:28:32 | erus` | ubuntu... sudo get-apt install libc6 ? |
| 14:28:45 | LinusN | i guess "libc6-dev" |
| 14:28:51 | safetydan | sudo apt-get install libc6-dev |
| 14:28:53 | safetydan | probably |
| 14:29:02 | erus` | yes :P |
| 14:29:27 | safetydan | If you want to compile the sim, you'll also need libsdl1.2-dev |
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| 14:33:17 | nICK-s | mm nice |
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| 14:33:37 | skwad | lol |
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| 14:39:44 | erus` | sorry, does anyone know where i can get the tcl dev includes and stuff? |
| 14:42:37 | linuxstb | Try "apt-cache search tcl.*dev" to search for packages |
| 14:43:06 | erus` | thanks |
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| 15:10:24 | linuxstb | Would anyone know why my firefox has started displaying plain text files like this after a recent upgrade? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/firefox.png |
| 15:10:42 | linuxstb | I'm running firefox 1.5.0.1 on Debian unstable. |
| 15:10:57 | needleboy | tried changing the font size? |
| 15:11:16 | needleboy | looks like the line height is set to less than the font size... |
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| 15:12:32 | linuxstb | No - the text size doesn't affect it. It also only appears to happen with that one specific font. I've no idea how to change fonts in firefox though - I guess I should investigate that. |
| 15:13:31 | linuxstb | Don't worry, I've fixed it now. The font configuration wasn't that hard to find..... |
| 15:13:50 | B4gder | t0mas: not very far, darned work makes me have to work! ;*) |
| 15:14:11 | t0mas | ghehe, there is an easy solution for that... |
| 15:14:22 | Jungti1234__ | hey B4gder |
| 15:14:54 | t0mas | e-mail to your boss.. |
| 15:15:29 | B4gder | "Please mr boss. stop pestering me, I need to hack on Rockbox for the rest of the afternoon" |
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| 15:16:06 | linuxstb | You need to ask for more than an afternoon.... langv2, svn migration, distributed builds..... |
| 15:16:33 | B4gder | "and don't come telling me one afternoon is only today, I mean a looooong afternoon" |
| 15:16:59 | petur | "every afternoon" :) |
| 15:17:03 | midkay | hey LinusN? |
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| 15:17:32 | Jungti1234__ | Please, kick Jungti1234... |
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| 15:18:04 | LinusN | midkay: yo |
| 15:18:15 | B4gder | Jungti1234__: it doesn't help you |
| 15:18:20 | midkay | LinusN, did you get my PM earlier? |
| 15:18:20 | B4gder | and I've told you that before |
| 15:18:43 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:18:44 | LinusN | pm? |
| 15:18:52 | Jungti1234__ | B4gder: When? |
| 15:19:08 | linuxstb | Jungti1234__: /msg nickserv ghost Jungtil1234 <password> |
| 15:19:13 | midkay | i was hoping you could send me that script to calculate x and y tables for the clock |
| 15:19:19 | midkay | do you still have it? |
| 15:19:19 | skwad | because if you kick Jungti1234 he stays connected and you can't take his name |
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| 15:19:32 | LinusN | midkay: no i don't |
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| 15:19:36 | Jungti1234__ | yahoo |
| 15:19:38 | Jungti1234__ | ah? |
| 15:19:45 | B4gder | midkay: perl script and sin()! |
| 15:20:04 | midkay | LinusN, argh :) thx anyways :) |
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| 15:20:10 | midkay | B4gder, if it's so easy, you do it! ;) |
| 15:20:22 | B4gder | give me 120 seconds |
| 15:20:23 | Jungti1234__ | hoo... |
| 15:20:42 | midkay | haha. |
| 15:21:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ach |
| 15:22:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Voice support not only doesn't work on iPod, but until you delete the voice file from your player, music stops working too even with all voice menu stuff set to "No". |
| 15:22:58 | linuxstb | I've never looked at it. Firstly, because I don't have any voice files, and secondly, I'm waiting for iriver users to tell me it's working reliably there before I attempt to debug any ipod-specific issues. |
| 15:23:24 | linuxstb | But I've seen that lots of blind users are now asking about it. |
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| 15:23:33 | B4gder | midkay: here it comes: |
| 15:23:39 | B4gder | $max = 64; |
| 15:23:39 | B4gder | $radius = 40; |
| 15:23:39 | B4gder | $center = 40; |
| 15:23:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Yeah, I was more concerned about the "music playback no longer functions and gives data aborts" than the "It doesn't play voice entries" bit really |
| 15:23:48 | B4gder | $pi = 3.141565; |
| 15:23:48 | B4gder | for my $v (0 .. $max) { |
| 15:23:48 | B4gder | printf("%d\n", sin(($v * 2 *$pi) / $max) * $radius + $center); |
| 15:23:52 | B4gder | } |
| 15:24:13 | amiconn | midkay: I'd go for runtime calculation anyway. Too many display sizes nowadays to include static tables |
| 15:24:14 | B4gder | did I win anything? ;-) |
| 15:24:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I was thinking it may just be better to remove the menu entries until it doesn't incapacitate your player. |
| 15:24:36 | midkay | amiconn, exactly, i wanted to adapt it to C + put it in the clock.. |
| 15:24:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though it seems it's the presence of the .voice file, rather than having it enabled, that messes things up... |
| 15:24:48 | midkay | B4gder, my eternal.. eh... 'gratitude' ;) |
| 15:24:50 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has no idea how the voice system works. |
| 15:24:58 | midkay | B4gder, thanks! :) |
| 15:25:00 | B4gder | yay |
| 15:25:05 | * | Paul_The_Nerd gives B4gder a cookie. |
| 15:25:12 | B4gder | my lucky day! |
| 15:25:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | It expires in 2036. |
| 15:26:41 | midkay | B4gder, wait - this calculates the X or Y? it doesn't seem to calculate both.. |
| 15:26:51 | B4gder | its just one, yes |
| 15:27:08 | B4gder | for the other you just add a 1/4 lap or use cos() |
| 15:27:22 | midkay | B4gder, i'll try that - thanks again :) |
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| 15:33:18 | midkay | B4gder, NO! you get something even better. clean code!!!!! [whispers from the other users] |
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| 15:35:20 | midkay | k, off for a while - laters, all |
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| 15:37:16 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I would prefer to just document somewhere (e.g. IpodStatus) the features that don't work in the ipod port, rather than disabling them in the code. That way no-one will forget about them. |
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| 15:37:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: That works to. :) |
| 15:37:57 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wanders over to that page. |
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| 15:41:45 | linuxstb | amiconn: You mentioned last night that fire.c didn't need to put a #ifdef around gray.h because gray.h itself was "protected" - but looking at gray.h, the only #if is #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP. |
| 15:42:07 | linuxstb | But looking at gray.h, it doesn't look as if it would do any harm to always include anyway. |
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| 15:53:16 | amiconn | linuxstb: Your're right, seems I confused the #ifdef in gray.h and in plugins/lib/SOURCES |
| 15:53:35 | amiconn | Still, including it doesn't really hurt |
| 15:53:46 | amiconn | A number of other plugins does that |
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| 16:02:45 | muesli- | re |
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| 16:07:15 | skwad | muesli-: where are you from ? |
| 16:07:34 | muesli- | germania |
| 16:08:11 | skwad | ok |
| 16:09:49 | skwad | what does "re" signify ? |
| 16:10:05 | muesli- | i m back |
| 16:10:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | REturned. |
| 16:10:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or something similar |
| 16:10:16 | muesli- | yepp |
| 16:10:19 | muesli- | that would fit |
| 16:10:19 | skwad | because i'm french and "re" signify that im back but i dont understand where it come from |
| 16:10:35 | skwad | oh yes Paul_The_Nerd you're right |
| 16:10:45 | muesli- | back for chatting ;-) |
| 16:11:35 | skwad | "bfr" ^^ |
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| 16:22:19 | Lynx_ | why does H340 boot into the iriver firmware when the charger is connected? |
| 16:23:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because that's just the way it works for now. |
| 16:23:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not everything related to USB handling/charging is known yet, so the behaviour there has some limitations. |
| 16:23:28 | Lynx_ | ok |
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| 16:25:00 | mirak | hum |
| 16:25:23 | mirak | is it normal that when you record in mono with H300 you still get a stereo wav file ? |
| 16:25:29 | mirak | that channels are duplicated though |
| 16:26:14 | linuxstb | hehe. Seems that the forum software at forums.ilounge.com has a function that changes any capitalisation of "ipod" into "iPod" - even in URLs. So no-one can link to our Wiki pages that start with "Ipod" :) |
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| 16:26:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
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| 16:27:27 | petur | mirak: talking about internal mic recording? |
| 16:27:36 | mirak | petur: external |
| 16:28:07 | petur | can't remember that mono recording is implemented |
| 16:28:19 | petur | the wav will always be stereo |
| 16:28:31 | petur | I guess it's 'to do' |
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| 16:30:34 | ripnetuk | hi. are we allowed to abuse the menu_run return result for things other than usb plugged in? i want my menu to close when an item is selected. It seems that it would work if my menu selected function just returned true, but a comment in menu.h implies that this should only be used to indicate usb plugged in. |
| 16:34:14 | ripnetuk | anyone home? :-) |
| 16:34:30 | petur | no, at work :P |
| 16:35:21 | ripnetuk | :) |
| 16:35:26 | ripnetuk | or should we use menu_show directly? |
| 16:35:43 | linuxstb | preglow: Would the person on the mailing list attempting to build a 64MB version of Rockbox for the iPod 5G need to adjust the memory remapping code? |
| 16:36:08 | petur | ripnetuk: I don't know that part of rb at all |
| 16:36:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | ripnetuk: What comment are you tlaking about? |
| 16:37:15 | ripnetuk | i want a menu in rockbox that will close the menu when an item is selected. |
| 16:37:33 | ripnetuk | atm it will run the menu function code, and then keep displaying the menu (until you press menu exit key) |
| 16:38:00 | ripnetuk | if my menu function returns true, it will close the menu, but from the source it looks like its designed for that to indicated USB plugged in to the calling code. |
| 16:38:19 | ripnetuk | is it un-rockbox-ish to mis-use the return value to force it to close the menu? |
| 16:38:44 | ripnetuk | sorry, the comment in menu.h l112 |
| 16:38:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | ripnetuk: Out of curiosity, what are you doing that should exit the menu when called? |
| 16:39:04 | LinusN | well, i've been wanting to change the return value from the menu functions for years |
| 16:39:50 | LinusN | a bool is simply not enough nowadays |
| 16:40:27 | ripnetuk | yeah, it would be nice to have more return values |
| 16:40:44 | ripnetuk | but that takes time... btw im trying to recode the bookmark screen so it displays a menu |
| 16:41:05 | ripnetuk | instead of the custom load bookmark screen. My ultimate goal is to get bookmark selecting working on the ihp remote |
| 16:41:14 | ripnetuk | so i dont have to remove the unit from my pocket to play a bookmark :) |
| 16:43:14 | ripnetuk | would you agree in principle to changing the bookmark screen to a normal menu? |
| 16:43:17 | LinusN | you have my blessing to extend the return type of the menus |
| 16:43:22 | LinusN | gotta go |
| 16:43:25 | | Part LinusN |
| 16:44:37 | * | ripnetuk thinks that this is a job for later - menus are used EVERYWHERE |
| 16:44:46 | ripnetuk | i will just return true for now :) |
| 16:45:14 | amiconn | I think some menus already do this |
| 16:45:21 | amiconn | Check e.g. the context menu |
| 16:45:51 | amiconn | But, I doubt a simple menu is enough for displaying the bookmarks |
| 16:45:55 | ripnetuk | wouldnt suprise me... the bool gets back to the run_menu call anyway, and my run_menu certainly doesnt do anythign special for usb.. |
| 16:45:59 | ripnetuk | why? |
| 16:46:15 | amiconn | There's more than just one action possible with bookmarks, and a bookmark might contain more than one resume point |
| 16:46:22 | ripnetuk | i was thinking a menu with options 1-8 for the first 8 resume points, |
| 16:46:37 | ripnetuk | option 9 is more boomkarks (eg the next 8) |
| 16:46:40 | amiconn | You might eiither want to run the bookmark, or delete it |
| 16:46:43 | ripnetuk | option 10 is delete bookmark |
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| 16:46:52 | ripnetuk | which brings up a sub-menu of all bookmarks to delete |
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| 16:47:42 | ripnetuk | do you think that is OK from a user point of view? |
| 16:47:56 | amiconn | Sounds cumbersome to ooperate... |
| 16:48:27 | ripnetuk | maybe... maybe we need a more flexable gui_yesno type thing |
| 16:48:40 | amiconn | You don't need to hard-limit the menu, btw |
| 16:49:03 | ripnetuk | dont you? i thought it had to be an array, and we have no malloc |
| 16:49:21 | ripnetuk | so surely we need struct menu_item items[MAX_ITEMS] type thing? |
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| 16:49:54 | ripnetuk | or perhaps a special gui_bookmark? |
| 16:50:24 | amiconn | We have no malloc, but __builtin_alloca() works |
| 16:51:01 | amiconn | You know how many items are in a bookmark file before building the menu |
| 16:51:06 | ripnetuk | yes |
| 16:51:14 | amiconn | Of course there has to be a sane upper limit |
| 16:51:23 | amiconn | ...to avoid stack overflow |
| 16:51:37 | ripnetuk | i didnt know about the builtub_alloca |
| 16:51:39 | ripnetuk | builtin |
| 16:51:53 | ripnetuk | i thought there was a strong feeling towards static buffers here? |
| 16:52:28 | ripnetuk | anyway, if you reckon its cumersome it probly wont fly anyway |
| 16:53:44 | amiconn | Well if you need more than what fits on the stack, there's only the static buffer left without malloc() |
| 16:54:14 | amiconn | If the stack is sufficient, you can either use a plain array, or alloca |
| 16:54:19 | ripnetuk | you you prefer a dedicated gui_bookmark or a menu then? |
| 16:54:28 | linuxstb | Doesn't the gui system have a "list" widget, which is based on callbacks to get labels for each item? |
| 16:54:47 | ripnetuk | does it? /me looks |
| 16:54:54 | linuxstb | I think the file browser uses it. |
| 16:55:16 | ripnetuk | that sounds more suitable than the menu code then... |
| 16:56:34 | ripnetuk | right, back to the drawing board :) |
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| 17:00:21 | B4gder | hey you should commit more! |
| 17:00:30 | * | B4gder wants to see the blazing build speeds |
| 17:01:00 | petur | certainly blazing when non-source stuff gets committed :D |
| 17:01:34 | B4gder | I added another server during the afternoon |
| 17:01:45 | petur | woohoo |
| 17:02:00 | * | B4gder scans his work for more servers |
| 17:02:11 | * | Paul_The_Nerd cheers for the distributed build system. |
| 17:02:55 | linuxstb | Has the distributed build system gone live now? |
| 17:03:08 | * | linuxstb hasn't been paying attention |
| 17:03:15 | B4gder | yes |
| 17:03:26 | B4gder | the cvs table on the site is now the distributed one |
| 17:03:50 | linuxstb | And very nice and green it is looking as well. |
| 17:04:24 | B4gder | Green is Good (tm) |
| 17:04:30 | skwad | ^^ |
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| 17:07:17 | webguest74 | Hello all |
| 17:08:08 | B4gder | hello webguest |
| 17:08:17 | webguest74 | I just noticed there is one contact plugin in the tracker, and according to the comments, this plugin follow the Rockbox rules |
| 17:08:25 | webguest74 | what do you think about ? |
| 17:09:16 | webguest74 | our DAPs aren't PDAs but contact plugin could be definitively great for Rockbox |
| 17:10:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | They could be with a slight rotation. |
| 17:10:16 | | Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") |
| 17:10:29 | webguest74 | moo :-) |
| 17:11:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sorry, bad joke I guess, but PDA and DAP are one character of rotation from each other. |
| 17:11:05 | webguest74 | any developer here have one opninon about this plugin? |
| 17:11:27 | webguest74 | Paul: I understood, good joke :D |
| 17:11:35 | petur | it should use some standardised format... does it? |
| 17:11:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | It does |
| 17:12:20 | petur | also understood by programs from the windows world? |
| 17:12:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think the only thing I don't like about it, from reading the description, is that it grabs the audio buffer, so it'd stop playback. I think that's not exactly ideal. |
| 17:12:44 | webguest74 | it's true |
| 17:12:58 | petur | don't want that either |
| 17:13:09 | webguest74 | but if you want one good amount of contact it's maybe the way to go |
| 17:13:31 | webguest74 | the number of contact was limited before this buffer usage |
| 17:13:46 | petur | no... you can read from disk.... |
| 17:13:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 17:13:52 | linuxstb | You don't need to read every piece of data about every contact into memory - requiring disk accesses during use wouldn't be unreasonable. |
| 17:13:55 | webguest74 | 106->5652 |
| 17:14:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | That was what I was about to say. Load a list of contact names, then when one is selected, load that one from disk. |
| 17:14:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Don't load full information until an actual contact is chosen. |
| 17:14:31 | webguest74 | linuxstb: is that need a lot of code changes? |
| 17:14:59 | webguest74 | in regard to the current approach |
| 17:15:08 | linuxstb | Well, it will be more complicated to implement than the current approach. |
| 17:15:10 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wonders idly how many contacts would fit in a 60gb 5G iPod's memory. |
| 17:15:28 | webguest74 | linuxstb: Ouch :( |
| 17:15:38 | webguest74 | haha :) |
| 17:15:51 | Slasheri | Bagder: Hmm, how much the new build system requires transfering files, a few megabytes? I could add my dual xeon 2.4 GHz server with 2/2M connection to that system |
| 17:16:11 | webguest74 | Slasheri: Bagder just said moo |
| 17:16:15 | webguest74 | you missed him |
| 17:16:22 | Slasheri | oh, yes i did |
| 17:16:34 | webguest74 | but ask T0mas ;) |
| 17:16:46 | linuxstb | Slasheri: My home PC is (I hope) a helpful part of the build system, and that only has a 512kbit/s upload. |
| 17:16:49 | lostlogic | Slasheri: I believe you already have more BW than the rockbox server (the same?) so that would probably be worth adding. |
| 17:16:58 | t0mas | hm? |
| 17:17:08 | Slasheri | lostlogic: ah, sounds good |
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| 17:17:26 | t0mas | <Slasheri> Bagder: Hmm, how much the new build system requires transfering files, a few megabytes? I could add my dual xeon 2.4 GHz server with 2/2M connection to that system |
| 17:17:29 | t0mas | sounds good |
| 17:18:01 | t0mas | you need help installing? |
| 17:18:14 | Slasheri | t0mas: Hmm, in fact i don |
| 17:18:18 | Slasheri | ups |
| 17:18:26 | Slasheri | i don't know yet where to start :) |
| 17:18:30 | t0mas | ok |
| 17:18:32 | webguest74 | Slasheri: isn't you the Tagcache man? |
| 17:18:43 | t0mas | I'll explain in PM.. |
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| 17:18:49 | Slasheri | that build system thing is completely new to me |
| 17:18:50 | Slasheri | ok, thanks |
| 17:18:54 | Slasheri | webguest74: yes |
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| 17:19:19 | webguest74 | Slasheri: are the things evoluted a bit those days? |
| 17:19:49 | linuxstb | Slasheri: The hardest work is installing all the cross-compilers and making the server capable of building as many of the targets as possible. The distributed-build stuff itself is relatively simple. |
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| 17:21:32 | webguest74 | Slasheri? |
| 17:24:59 | Slasheri | webguest74: no, but will when i get that time :) |
| 17:25:23 | webguest74 | good reply :) |
| 17:25:37 | webguest74 | we all hope too |
| 17:26:28 | webguest74 | like B4gder said: "time to say moo" |
| 17:26:29 | amiconn | t0mas: What if there are more than 34 servers in the distributed build system? |
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| 17:26:38 | amiconn | (with the current number of builds) |
| 17:26:43 | t0mas | amiconn: it will take the first 34 that respond |
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| 17:30:49 | t0mas | and respond includes cvs update |
| 17:31:04 | t0mas | so the 34 that have cvs updated... and are online... take the first 34 builds |
| 17:31:11 | t0mas | all others will just do nothing |
| 17:31:56 | linuxstb | What's the current number of servers? |
| 17:34:07 | t0mas | 3 |
| 17:34:13 | t0mas | erm 4 |
| 17:34:19 | t0mas | just installed a new one |
| 17:34:26 | t0mas | and I'm now busy installing the 5th |
| 17:35:56 | linuxstb | Have you worked out what would be optimum number of servers? Or would 34 be the optimum number? |
| 17:36:29 | linuxstb | I'm guessing the bandwidth on rockbox.org will soon be the bottleneck. |
| 17:36:32 | t0mas | hm.. that's a good question |
| 17:36:49 | t0mas | we have 1 server on the same net as the rockbox.org server |
| 17:37:09 | t0mas | and ofcourse the main server itself... those 2 take no time for transfere... so they'll do a lot of builds |
| 17:37:33 | t0mas | the ideal number of servers is hard to calculate... |
| 17:38:35 | Lynx_ | how long does it take to build everything now? |
| 17:38:49 | t0mas | "34 builds in 526 seconds makes 15 seconds/build" |
| 17:39:23 | t0mas | 8 minutes 46 seconds was the last build |
| 17:39:28 | Lynx_ | ah |
| 17:39:36 | Lynx_ | and that is too long? |
| 17:39:43 | t0mas | that is way faster than before |
| 17:39:56 | t0mas | but faster is always better... |
| 17:39:57 | amiconn | I guess some more servers would increase reliability |
| 17:40:00 | Lynx_ | ah, no, i meant how long it took before |
| 17:40:20 | t0mas | the last old-system build took over 63 minutes |
| 17:40:29 | Lynx_ | ok, that is long |
| 17:41:11 | petur | t0mas: don't tell me, that last long build was for me.... |
| 17:41:21 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 17:41:38 | t0mas | you could have checked www.rockbox.org/~tomas/daily.shtml |
| 17:41:43 | t0mas | we had this in beta for a week there ;) |
| 17:41:50 | petur | damn! |
| 17:42:09 | petur | I stayed up quite some time to check the end result.... |
| 17:42:19 | Jungti1234__ | um |
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| 17:43:41 | petur | congratulations Jungti1234 |
| 17:43:50 | Jungti1234 | haha thanks |
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| 18:04:25 | mirak | anyone heard of a website with documentation about the various sound effects ? |
| 18:04:31 | mirak | like normalisation etcetera |
| 18:04:42 | mirak | I am googling, but can't find a bible |
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| 18:18:47 | webguest60 | I just installed latest cvs on iriver ihp 140, works nicely. |
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| 18:27:13 | nobelium | can anyone tell me the best way to do a translation? |
| 18:27:40 | infamis | anyone know how to install sdl if you don't already have it...under linux? |
| 18:27:49 | skwad | download cvs and open .lang file |
| 18:28:13 | skwad | infamis i think you have to get the source and make it |
| 18:28:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | nobelium: Get the english.lang file (or any one in a language you understand) and start working your way through it, replacing entries. |
| 18:28:30 | nobelium | yup |
| 18:28:32 | linuxstb | infamis: Which Linux distribution do you have? |
| 18:28:37 | nobelium | I'm using english.lng |
| 18:28:38 | infamis | redhat 9 |
| 18:28:40 | nobelium | that's alright? |
| 18:28:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | It should be, I believe |
| 18:28:55 | infamis | I get "fatal: no available video device" after a successful make/make install when running rockboxui |
| 18:29:04 | nobelium | can you recommend any good editor? |
| 18:29:07 | infamis | make/make install of sdl |
| 18:29:22 | nobelium | I used notepad but it has weird formatation (spaces and paragraphs) |
| 18:29:30 | nobelium | rockbox didn't recognize it after my translation |
| 18:29:50 | skwad | nobelium: i think you have to take english.lang and not english.lng |
| 18:29:58 | nobelium | just read it on wiki |
| 18:30:01 | nobelium | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoUpdateLangfile |
| 18:30:06 | nobelium | thanks :=) |
| 18:30:31 | nobelium | btw, wanted your opinion on this: bootloader USB mode won't work on my iriver h340 |
| 18:30:47 | nobelium | should I fill out as a bug or am I doing something wrong? |
| 18:30:55 | infamis | I brought it up yesterday, someone told me to add sdl to the crosscompile twiki, I wake up & see linus deleted it |
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| 18:31:35 | skwad | nobelium: I don't know i haven't an iriver, you have to wait for the others to answer |
| 18:32:00 | nobelium | but it is suposed to show up on windows the connection, right? |
| 18:32:09 | nobelium | I'm only able to connect via USB after booting rockbox |
| 18:32:21 | nobelium | therefor removing that great option of recovering a bad disc |
| 18:32:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | nobelium: Try just using wordpad, and english.lang. |
| 18:32:39 | linuxstb | nobelium: I _think_ that's a known issue. Are you running the very latest version of the bootloader (whichever one is the newest on the wiki page) ? |
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| 18:33:26 | nobelium | to be honest I'm not it's the most recent version |
| 18:33:30 | nobelium | it's v5 for sure |
| 18:33:52 | nobelium | I used the fwpatcher to patch my 1.29K firmware |
| 18:33:58 | nobelium | and that was yesterday |
| 18:34:46 | linuxstb | I know that some people in the past have complained that bootloader usb mode doesn't work reliably on the h3x0 - but I don't know if the latest bootloader version fixes it or not. |
| 18:35:07 | nobelium | sorry for this, but I can't find a bootloader version on wiki |
| 18:35:18 | nobelium | only the latest cvs build on 'downloads' |
| 18:35:34 | nobelium | ah |
| 18:35:36 | nobelium | iriverboot |
| 18:35:44 | skwad | perhaps that : http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h300/rockbox-h300-20060227.zip |
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| 18:36:09 | linuxstb | nobelium: Yes, v5 seems to be the latest. |
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| 18:36:20 | linuxstb | (for the h3x0) |
| 18:36:27 | nobelium | yup, just confirmed too |
| 18:36:38 | nobelium | skwad, that's the rockbox installation afaik |
| 18:36:43 | nobelium | does not contain the bootloader |
| 18:36:56 | linuxstb | LinusN should know the answer, but he's not around. |
| 18:37:23 | nobelium | alright, thanks guys |
| 18:37:28 | skwad | yes nobelium i just saw this |
| 18:39:09 | nobelium | as far as I understood, the newlang.lang has to be submitted for approval |
| 18:39:18 | nobelium | and then "compiled" to newlang.lng? |
| 18:39:43 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wishes he had more PM inbox capacity on the forum. |
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| 18:40:40 | skwad | i think you can juste compile it if it's for personal use |
| 18:40:58 | skwad | but if you want it to be public somebody has to do it on cvs |
| 18:41:19 | skwad | which lang are you making ? |
| 18:42:38 | skwad | portugal :D |
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| 18:42:58 | skwad | portugues is already here |
| 18:43:20 | nobelium | yes |
| 18:43:21 | nobelium | portuguese |
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| 18:44:09 | skwad | there is already portuguese |
| 18:44:19 | nobelium | well, I saw the current translation |
| 18:44:27 | nobelium | and doesn't seem really good |
| 18:44:31 | nobelium | seems more brazilian to me |
| 18:44:41 | skwad | ^^ |
| 18:44:59 | amiconn | nobelium: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoUpdateLangfile |
| 18:45:14 | nobelium | yes, already saw that thanks :) |
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| 18:46:42 | linuxstb | The Portuguese translation doesn't look as if it's been touched for about 3 years - so an update is long overdue. |
| 18:47:27 | amiconn | A lot of translations into languages rockbox claims to 'support' are way outdated and cover only a fraction of all strings |
| 18:47:37 | * | amiconn should update German asap |
| 18:47:47 | nobelium | ah |
| 18:47:50 | nobelium | thought so |
| 18:48:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | That should be a step in the next release, trimming too badly outdated languages. |
| 18:48:06 | amiconn | I intended to wait until after my .lang cleanup, but there's already a lot of strings missing |
| 18:48:43 | nobelium | anyone got upload perl script there? |
| 18:49:09 | nobelium | got it |
| 18:49:12 | nobelium | thanks :p |
| 18:49:33 | nobelium | I noticed another thing |
| 18:49:44 | nobelium | USB mode under rockbox "overlays" the current theme |
| 18:49:54 | nobelium | the usb icon messes up the themes |
| 18:50:22 | nobelium | probably a question of priority of layers |
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| 18:54:25 | skwad | lol someone just updated the korean language file |
| 18:55:17 | nobelium | hmm |
| 18:55:21 | nobelium | thought so |
| 18:55:28 | nobelium | language file needs to be compiled |
| 18:56:08 | nobelium | anyone able to do that for me, under linux? |
| 18:56:10 | markun | amiconn: what about the voice strings? Should they be left empty in a translation file if they are not translated? |
| 18:56:44 | nobelium | was going to ask that also eheh |
| 18:57:29 | linuxstb | markun: Have you seen the mailing list post about unicode and strncmp/strncasecmp ? |
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| 18:58:23 | skwad | nobelium i can do it under windows is it a problem ? |
| 18:58:27 | markun | linuxstb: no. I'll take a look |
| 18:58:37 | nobelium | no, not at all :) |
| 18:58:41 | nobelium | how do you run it thought? |
| 18:58:42 | nobelium | cygwin? |
| 18:58:45 | skwad | yes |
| 18:58:53 | nobelium | alright, can you do it for me then? |
| 18:58:58 | skwad | yes |
| 18:59:01 | nobelium | thanks a lot |
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| 19:00:12 | markun | linuxstb: which post are you talking about? Can't find it. |
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| 19:01:19 | _SuperSnout_ | hey =) |
| 19:01:36 | _SuperSnout_ | does anyone know about rockdoom? |
| 19:01:38 | linuxstb | markun: It's a little misleading - "proper directory sorting" on the dev list. |
| 19:02:21 | _SuperSnout_ | I'm a bit confused about a couple of things.. |
| 19:03:05 | t0mas | buildtimes are still decreasing :) |
| 19:03:19 | t0mas | down from 8:46 to 8:07 |
| 19:03:31 | t0mas | ccache has started to do its job on the new server |
| 19:03:39 | markun | linuxstb: looks like Bluechip is talking about something completely different :) |
| 19:03:52 | skwad | nobelium: check your pm |
| 19:04:05 | linuxstb | Yes - I was curious about how easy/hard it would be to do the kind of sorting the original poster requested. |
| 19:04:19 | amiconn | nobelium: Voice strings should be translated if the .lang file should be usable for generating a .voice file |
| 19:04:27 | linuxstb | I'm assuming it's not trivial to sort utf8 like that. |
| 19:04:27 | nobelium | alright |
| 19:04:32 | nobelium | skaw, where :)? |
| 19:04:37 | amiconn | Of course that requires a TTS engine for that language |
| 19:06:21 | skwad | in irc |
| 19:06:30 | amiconn | It's important that voice strings which are empty in english.lang are left empty in all other languages |
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| 19:06:57 | amiconn | Not doing that would unnecessarily increase voice file size |
| 19:07:05 | markun | linuxstb: one of the problems is that sorting is language dependent: http://www.rostra.dk/alphabet/alpha_en.htm |
| 19:07:57 | nobelium | ah skwad |
| 19:08:01 | nobelium | need to register nick |
| 19:08:55 | t0mas | lol, the dutch police has lost a "radar speed check camera" today |
| 19:09:14 | _SuperSnout_ | ..does any know about rockdoom? |
| 19:09:23 | t0mas | the officiers where watching it from some distance, and enjoying their lunch... while caching a lot of money for the government |
| 19:09:35 | t0mas | suddenly someone stopped, picked up the camera en drove off again |
| 19:09:43 | linuxstb | markun: I wouldn't want to program a sorting algorithm that obeyed those rules... |
| 19:09:44 | _SuperSnout_ | i'm a bit confused about a couple of things.. |
| 19:09:55 | t0mas | leaving the officers astonished... |
| 19:09:59 | _SuperSnout_ | skwad? |
| 19:10:00 | linuxstb | _SuperSnout_: You said that before - just ask your question. |
| 19:10:06 | _SuperSnout_ | sorry =( |
| 19:10:09 | skwad | so nobelium when you have finished just mail it me and I will send you the compiled back |
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| 19:10:14 | _SuperSnout_ | i'll do that next time.. |
| 19:10:22 | linuxstb | :) |
| 19:10:27 | nobelium | can you give me your email on pm? |
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| 19:11:48 | bluey | i want my hje70 headphone's :( |
| 19:12:18 | _SuperSnout_ | well basically.. it's to do with the different files.. doom.iriver.. doom.rock.. and rockbox.iriver.. |
| 19:12:54 | _SuperSnout_ | i know that doom.rock starts the game.. |
| 19:13:08 | _SuperSnout_ | i can put that in the game\doom\ folder right? |
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| 19:13:48 | _SuperSnout_ | ..and then there's the other two files.. i think doom.iriver boots the player into a patched version of rockbox.. is this right? |
| 19:14:22 | _SuperSnout_ | and then there's rockbox.iriver that is used to boot when the player starts.. right? |
| 19:15:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | _SuperSnout_: Umm... doom.rock is the game plugin, which goes in the rocks folder under .rockbox. |
| 19:15:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | _SuperSnout_: I'm not sure what doom.iriver is, I would assume that's a construct of the optimized build. |
| 19:15:22 | skwad | nobelium: did you receive my pm ? |
| 19:15:26 | nobelium | nop ;7 |
| 19:15:35 | skwad | then wait i register |
| 19:16:00 | nobelium | wait |
| 19:16:01 | nobelium | done |
| 19:16:02 | nobelium | :) |
| 19:16:05 | amiconn | nobelium: You can convert the .lang into a .lng yourself. Apart from your .lang and english.lang you only need a working perl installation and the binlang script from the rockbox sources |
| 19:16:17 | nobelium | I have a working perl installation |
| 19:16:21 | nobelium | is binlang perl? |
| 19:16:21 | nobelium | sec |
| 19:16:26 | _SuperSnout_ | okay.. that's good.. at the moment i have those 3 files cluttering up my root directory.. i want to know where i can put them.. |
| 19:16:29 | nobelium | ah |
| 19:16:29 | nobelium | it is |
| 19:16:33 | amiconn | nobelium: yes |
| 19:16:44 | markun | linuxstb: more fun: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr10/ |
| 19:16:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | _SuperSnout_: I would assume doom.iriver is, as you said, a patched version of the firmware. But doom.rock should go with the rest of the plugins. I don't *think* doom.iriver needs to be anywhere specific. |
| 19:17:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | _SuperSnout_: But rockbox.iriver needs to be in the root or in .rockbox for it to be found on boot. |
| 19:17:25 | _SuperSnout_ | and someone mentioned to me that I could just make my player boot from doom.iriver as default to save me having to run it before running the game each time (otherwise when running doom.rock it says "incompatable") |
| 19:18:00 | skwad | nobelium: now you should have received my pm |
| 19:18:07 | _SuperSnout_ | would i just rename doom.iriver to rockbox.iriver? |
| 19:18:10 | nobelium | thanks skwa |
| 19:18:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 19:18:18 | _SuperSnout_ | sounds good.. |
| 19:18:20 | nobelium | *skwad |
| 19:18:23 | nobelium | I got the script working |
| 19:18:24 | nobelium | :) |
| 19:18:28 | skwad | ok |
| 19:18:42 | _SuperSnout_ | do the .iriver files contain you're settings and things? or are they stored somewhere else? |
| 19:18:48 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:19:16 | _SuperSnout_ | and does booting in iriver firmware clear your rockbox settings? (i know it clears the clock time) |
| 19:20:37 | safetydan | _SuperSnout_, settings are stored in a disk sector so, no, they're not stored in the rockbox.iriver file |
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| 19:21:47 | _SuperSnout_ | that's good.. so the .iriver files are very basic files.. so it doesn't matter if you replace them.. |
| 19:22:31 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK egotrippen |
| 19:22:31 | egotrippen | ,11can i ask after getting a tiny l'il patch committed? |
| 19:22:40 | Mikachu | only if you don't use color |
| 19:22:45 | skwad | ^^ |
| 19:22:48 | mirak | it would be nice to have an automatic gain limiter when in record mode |
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| 19:23:04 | safetydan | _SuperSnout_, well... they do contain the Rockbox "operating system" basically |
| 19:23:28 | safetydan | egotrippen, which patch? |
| 19:23:50 | egotrippen | ,11the one i had yesterday, to keep .rockbox and such hidden but display files with two or three dots |
| 19:24:01 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 19:24:01 | egotrippen | ,11it's literally a line of code |
| 19:24:19 | _SuperSnout_ | so i can just stick rockbox.iriver in the .rockbox folder yeah? top level? |
| 19:25:16 | _SuperSnout_ | good.. now my root folder is cleared up =) |
| 19:25:19 | safetydan | _SuperSnout_, no it must be in / |
| 19:25:22 | _SuperSnout_ | apart from... |
| 19:25:24 | safetydan | otherwise no booting for you |
| 19:25:29 | _SuperSnout_ | oh.. where must it be? |
| 19:25:34 | nobelium | line 428/3781 damn :p |
| 19:25:53 | _SuperSnout_ | where is /? |
| 19:25:57 | safetydan | _SuperSnout_, you have to have a rockbox.iriver file in the top level of your file system |
| 19:26:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: No, it can be in .rockbox too |
| 19:26:29 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, oh? When did that change? |
| 19:26:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | About bootloader v3 or v4 for H300, I think. Maybe v5 |
| 19:26:49 | safetydan | oo... now I remember something about it ages ago |
| 19:26:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, it was a while ago |
| 19:27:00 | nobelium | id: LANG_ID3_TRACKNUM |
| 19:27:02 | nobelium | desc: in wps |
| 19:27:03 | _SuperSnout_ | "But rockbox.iriver needs to be in the root or in .rockbox for it to be found on boot" |
| 19:27:04 | nobelium | eng: "[Tracknum]" |
| 19:27:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | It does require the newest bootloader on H120 though |
| 19:27:06 | nobelium | voice: "" |
| 19:27:08 | nobelium | new: |
| 19:27:09 | nobelium | should I translate this? |
| 19:27:10 | t0mas | egotrippen: can you disable those colors? |
| 19:27:14 | _SuperSnout_ | can it not be in .rockbox then? |
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| 19:27:29 | _SuperSnout_ | ok.. good =) |
| 19:27:49 | _SuperSnout_ | seems annoying to have rockbox.iriver sitting in your root.. |
| 19:27:52 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 19:27:52 | * | safetydan wonders when the build will change to do that by default |
| 19:27:56 | _SuperSnout_ | anyway.. one more thing.. |
| 19:27:58 | safetydan | _SuperSnout_, you can have it hidden |
| 19:28:06 | _SuperSnout_ | oh.. okay |
| 19:28:33 | safetydan | Just set "Show Files" to "Music" |
| 19:28:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, if you make a file "Hidden" it won't show in "Supported" only "Show all files" |
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| 19:28:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: They're just waiting to have a relatively high confidence everyone has a new enough bootloader. |
| 19:29:01 | _SuperSnout_ | but yeah.. when you run doom.iriver for the first time it creats the folder games/doom.. containing all the .wad files for the game.. |
| 19:29:24 | _SuperSnout_ | ah yeah.. so i could make that folder hidden right =) |
| 19:29:28 | linuxstb | Where did you get this doom.iriver from? |
| 19:29:39 | _SuperSnout_ | it's on the misticriver boards |
| 19:29:42 | _SuperSnout_ | called rockdoom |
| 19:29:51 | _SuperSnout_ | amazing =D |
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| 19:30:04 | _SuperSnout_ | what player do you have linux? |
| 19:30:20 | linuxstb | As far as I know, the latest version of Doom doesn't require a special .iriver file - it will work with a standard rockbox.iriver |
| 19:30:44 | linuxstb | _SuperSnout_: Various - an Archos Recorder, iriver H140 and a couple of ipods |
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| 19:31:09 | mirak | linuxstb: I am not sure it's even worse bothering to record compressed audio. |
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| 19:31:11 | _SuperSnout_ | ok.. cool |
| 19:31:14 | mirak | worth |
| 19:31:28 | egotrippen | sorry about the colors - i couldn't figure out how to turn them off with Trillian |
| 19:31:30 | egotrippen | on the web client now |
| 19:31:41 | t0mas | ok |
| 19:31:45 | mirak | I recorded two shows, and the sound is way better without lossy compression, and also it drains less battery I think |
| 19:32:09 | linuxstb | mirak: Personally I agree, but some people care more about disk space than anything else - they just want a small, low-quality recording of something. |
| 19:32:09 | _SuperSnout_ | well with my rockdoom.. which i got of the official misticriver rockdoom thread.. when i start doom.rock while in the standard rockbox boot it says "incompatable device" |
| 19:32:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | mirak: Lossy compression though is helpful if you've got like, less than 100mb free on your player or something |
| 19:32:30 | t0mas | yeah, or if you have to record long conversations... |
| 19:32:49 | mirak | Paul_The_Nerd: well in that case I don't mind removing music folders since I already have them :p |
| 19:32:49 | linuxstb | _SuperSnout_: Yes, it won't work with the "official" rockbox.iriver, but you could use the H300 optimised build, which comes with Doom. |
| 19:33:00 | mirak | Paul_The_Nerd: on hard drive |
| 19:33:33 | _SuperSnout_ | oh.. so doom.iriver isn't a special .iriver file.. it's just the standard optimised build.. ok |
| 19:33:36 | linuxstb | But if lossless wavpack recording was available, then I would probably use it instead of wav. |
| 19:33:36 | mirak | Paul_The_Nerd: but well why not yes, who can do more can do less |
| 19:33:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | mirak: I agree, but it still seems like it may as well be an option, since it was with the original FW on iRivers at least. |
| 19:34:01 | _SuperSnout_ | i've changed doom.iriver to be called rockbox.iriver and deleted the old one so i should be all set right? |
| 19:34:02 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 19:34:04 | mirak | Paul_The_Nerd: yep. it could be interesting for internal mic recording |
| 19:34:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | _SuperSnout_: Really, it's an older build from before the doom patch was working properly |
| 19:34:23 | mirak | Paul_The_Nerd: you don't need quality for that. |
| 19:34:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | _SuperSnout_: You should just get the newest optimized build, which should include doom, and not require you to switch. |
| 19:34:50 | mirak | linuxstb: I would try to see wich one drains less battery. |
| 19:34:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | mirak: Yeah, I use the internal mic to take notes to myself, when I'm brainstorming for writing while I'm out. Just voice. |
| 19:35:01 | _SuperSnout_ | well isn't doom.iriver the new optimized build? it came with doom.rock.. =S |
| 19:35:15 | linuxstb | _SuperSnout_: I agree with Paul_The_Nerd - delete the rockbox.iriver, the doom.iriver, the doom.rock, and your .rockbox folder, and then just install the latest version of the h300 optimised build. |
| 19:35:17 | mirak | linuxstb: in fact there is not that much disk spins when recording lossless |
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| 19:35:27 | _SuperSnout_ | if i'm booting with doom.iriver i shouldn't have to switch right/ |
| 19:35:52 | mirak | Paul_The_Nerd: yes, for that usage, little drive usage can lead to better reactivity |
| 19:36:12 | linuxstb | _SuperSnout_: The problem will be that all the other plugins (.rock files) will probably be compiled to work with your rockbox.iriver |
| 19:36:39 | linuxstb | And your doom.rock will be compiled to work with your doom.iriver. |
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| 19:37:01 | nobelium | do you guys recommend the cache dir option? |
| 19:37:03 | linuxstb | But if you get the optimised build, it will come with a single rockbox.iriver, and both the existing plugins, and Doom will work with that. |
| 19:37:09 | nobelium | what are the main disadvantages? besides slower boot time |
| 19:37:34 | _SuperSnout_ | where is this optimised build? |
| 19:37:47 | linuxstb | On the misticriver.net forums - you won't be able to miss it... |
| 19:37:56 | nobelium | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34725 |
| 19:38:06 | petur | nobelium: dircache is recommended |
| 19:38:23 | petur | less hdd spinning when browsing for files |
| 19:38:30 | nobelium | hey, wrong link |
| 19:38:31 | nobelium | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34725 |
| 19:38:36 | linuxstb | nobelium: The dircache will use more memory (meaning less audio can be buffered), but that is offset by the fact that the disk spins up less during browsing... |
| 19:38:58 | nobelium | how will it affect updates to dirs? |
| 19:39:02 | egotrippen | anyone else notice the optimized build acting a little slower than the regular daily build? |
| 19:39:21 | petur | I'm not surprised |
| 19:39:35 | petur | it's not optimized, it's experimental |
| 19:39:41 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 19:39:47 | petur | and loads of gui stuff |
| 19:40:02 | nobelium | I'm gonna try and do a stripped down version |
| 19:40:04 | egotrippen | i stick to daily for the most part, too many bells and whistles. most of the WPS patches have been committed anyway |
| 19:40:07 | nobelium | without all those games |
| 19:40:29 | nobelium | it has some good ones, but dap's weren't made for game player |
| 19:40:37 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 19:40:43 | nobelium | keys will loose durability in some weeks |
| 19:40:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | nobelium: The games won't affect the performance anyway. It's all the other patches. |
| 19:40:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | nobelium: All they affect is the size of the .zip you're downloading. |
| 19:41:04 | nobelium | it still has to load like 30+ plugins |
| 19:41:10 | nobelium | and read their .cfg files |
| 19:41:15 | nobelium | and check the proper paths |
| 19:41:58 | nobelium | but it has some nice features thought, like cover art |
| 19:42:09 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 19:42:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | The plugins aren't really loaded until you load them, I thought. |
| 19:42:25 | egotrippen | it's annoying though, because a bunch of WPSs get made and then the code changes |
| 19:42:35 | _SuperSnout_ | linux: all i see is the rockbox optimised dicussion thread.. no links.. |
| 19:42:47 | egotrippen | snout: it's a stick |
| 19:42:49 | egotrippen | sticky |
| 19:42:50 | nobelium | Yes, that is truth, but rockbox has to read their cfg entry to list them under "Browse Plugins" |
| 19:42:58 | nobelium | http://rbh300.chendo.net/RockBoxH300Optimized-200602230015-v0.62.zip |
| 19:43:05 | nobelium | that's the latest version |
| 19:43:18 | nobelium | Paul_The_Nerd, should I translate id: LANG_ID3_TRACKNUM? |
| 19:43:25 | linuxstb | No - the "browse plugins" option just reads the list of .rock files in the .rockbox/rocks/ directory. |
| 19:43:26 | Mikachu | what cfg entry? |
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| 19:43:56 | nobelium | ah alright..I guess that it doesn't affect perforamance as much as I thought |
| 19:44:13 | linuxstb | No, the number of plugins has no effect on normal Rockbox use. |
| 19:44:39 | nobelium | well, going to play football with friends..thanks for the help/opinions :) |
| 19:44:42 | nobelium | be back later |
| 19:46:10 | egotrippen | i still wanna bother someone about my tiny filename patch |
| 19:46:25 | Mikachu | if you put it in the tracker, all you have to do is wait |
| 19:46:41 | egotrippen | alright |
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| 19:46:55 | egotrippen | it's in, someone said i should also try to catch some devs online and mention it |
| 19:47:23 | Mikachu | oh okay |
| 19:48:48 | _SuperSnout_ | "Remapping of NAVI Button to turn on the backlight if it's off, instead of performing it's normal function." great =D |
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| 19:51:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wee! It looks like rockboy has a small endianness problem. |
| 19:52:19 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I thought rockboy worked OK on the Archos players? |
| 19:53:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's just the colors |
| 19:53:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | It needs a betoh() |
| 19:53:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Since the archos are grayscale, it's probably not as noticeable. |
| 19:53:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or something? |
| 19:53:49 | linuxstb | That's not really an endian problem - it's just different LCD framebuffer formats. The video ipod is the same as the H300, and 4g Color/Nano are byte-swapped. |
| 19:53:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's screenshots of it in the forum. I'm *guessing* it's endianness at least |
| 19:53:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
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| 19:54:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or that. |
| 19:54:18 | linuxstb | But yes - that seems the problem. |
| 19:54:47 | linuxstb | I'm guessing the colours are being packed into RGB565 "manually", rather than using the LCD_RGBPACK() macro. |
| 19:55:02 | * | linuxstb goes to look |
| 19:55:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gotcha |
| 19:55:21 | super | i'm extracting the daily build to my root folder as we speak.. |
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| 19:55:42 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: A quick grep shows the LCD_RGBPACK macro isn't being used.... |
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| 19:56:02 | SuperSnout | done.. now to check it out.. |
| 19:57:32 | SuperSnout | something just made my player crash =( |
| 19:57:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Alright. Do you happen to know where the screen stuff is handled in that? I keep meaning to go try to get it fixed for the iPod Nano. Even just having a static "skip the top 6 and bottom 6 pixels" so it can be used is better than nothing for the moment, I think. |
| 19:57:49 | egotrippen | snout: is that the daily, or the optimized |
| 19:57:52 | egotrippen | ? |
| 19:58:18 | SuperSnout | i tried to open some picture called h300opt100.jpg which came with the optimized build.. and it said unsupported -4 |
| 19:58:38 | SuperSnout | optimized.. |
| 19:58:50 | SuperSnout | what's the difference between the daily build and optimized? |
| 19:59:10 | egotrippen | there's a pretty big difference |
| 19:59:24 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I'm trying to understand it now - it's the code in lcd.c.... |
| 19:59:32 | egotrippen | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35654 |
| 19:59:51 | egotrippen | those are the patches and extras supplied with the 'Optimized' |
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| 20:00:00 | SuperSnout | ok.. and can you think of a reason why it's said "unsupported -4" and made my player crash? |
| 20:00:01 | egotrippen | i'm not sure which daily the latest version was built off of |
| 20:00:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Y'know, I bet if I'd just bothered to go look, I would've guessed to check that file. I should probably not be so lazy. |
| 20:00:26 | egotrippen | i forget if and when JPEG support was added |
| 20:00:45 | SuperSnout | but that jpeg file came with the optimized build! |
| 20:00:46 | egotrippen | it's possible that the daily it was built off of didn't have JPEG support |
| 20:01:05 | SuperSnout | now i have to find something thin and pointy =( |
| 20:01:11 | safetydan | egotrippen, how much testing have you done of your patch? |
| 20:01:26 | egotrippen | i've been using it for over a month now |
| 20:01:32 | egotrippen | it's a single line of code |
| 20:01:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: The "optimized" build isn't really "optimized" so much as experimental. Expect unexpected and unforseen behaviour. |
| 20:01:56 | SuperSnout | i don't want that =( |
| 20:01:59 | SuperSnout | i want safe =) |
| 20:02:02 | safetydan | egotrippen, yeah but files starting with . are special and I'm wondering about unforseen consequences |
| 20:02:15 | egotrippen | it doesn't affect those starting with '.' |
| 20:02:36 | egotrippen | all it does, is when you set view to 'supported,' it displays those with more than one . |
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| 20:02:44 | egotrippen | regular dotfiles remain hidden |
| 20:03:06 | linuxstb | egotrippen: My reservation is that it means that Rockbox no longer has the standard Unix behaviour of treating all filenames starting with a dot as hidden. |
| 20:03:14 | safetydan | which is my other concern |
| 20:03:24 | egotrippen | ah |
| 20:03:38 | egotrippen | so... who should i talk to? it's not very important, i guess |
| 20:03:56 | egotrippen | there's only gonna be a handful of albums or whatever that begin with elipses |
| 20:04:03 | safetydan | It |
| 20:04:06 | safetydan | whoops |
| 20:04:21 | safetydan | It's probably friendlier to the user to allow elipses at the start of names |
| 20:04:31 | safetydan | maybe this is an issue that will go away with tagcache |
| 20:05:13 | egotrippen | alright |
| 20:05:47 | SuperSnout | now the player crashes when i run rockdoom.. =( |
| 20:05:51 | egotrippen | i'm not gonna push for it if there are important concerns about it, i think it's a good idea |
| 20:05:55 | SuperSnout | i want a stable build =( |
| 20:06:12 | egotrippen | i got a little scared when i couldn't find an album under RB but could uner iRiver |
| 20:06:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: If you want a stable build, check out the CVS source, apply the doom patch, and compile. That works for me. :-P |
| 20:06:30 | egotrippen | snout: if you want stability, it's back to the daily build with you |
| 20:06:43 | SuperSnout | =) |
| 20:06:58 | SuperSnout | where is the CVS source? misticriver? |
| 20:07:16 | safetydan | SuperSnout, did you do a clean install? |
| 20:07:17 | egotrippen | for CVS, you have to deal with Cygwin |
| 20:07:24 | t0mas | SuperSnout: www.rockbox.org |
| 20:07:27 | SuperSnout | a clean install? |
| 20:07:28 | egotrippen | it's a pain, but worth it if you want to play with patches |
| 20:07:30 | safetydan | i.e. delete all of .rockbox and rockbox.iriver and *then* unzip the optimized build? |
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| 20:07:55 | SuperSnout | oh.. no i didn't.. i'll try that.. |
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| 20:08:47 | webguest75 | hi, does anyone know if Wett is still working on video for the h120? |
| 20:09:19 | SuperSnout | ok...... it crashed when i connected it to the computer.. |
| 20:09:53 | SuperSnout | help#!!!! |
| 20:09:59 | safetydan | SuperSnout, try turning it off, plugging it in, and then turning it on |
| 20:10:04 | SuperSnout | then it said "installation complete" |
| 20:10:35 | SuperSnout | and then when i tried to switch it off it said "safe failed" "partition incomplete" or something ='( |
| 20:12:11 | SuperSnout | should making a folder hidden ever effect things? |
| 20:12:21 | safetydan | not like that, no |
| 20:12:38 | safetydan | You might want to run a scandisk over it when you reconnect it to your computer |
| 20:14:05 | SuperSnout | ok.. it seems fine now.. i think it was because i didn't delete things before i unziped stuff in.. |
| 20:14:08 | amiconn | SuperSnout: "Unsupported -4" means that this special type of jpeg file is not supported, most likely it's a progressive jpeg |
| 20:14:19 | amiconn | It shouldn't crash the plugin or rockbox though |
| 20:14:29 | SuperSnout | i've now deleted everything apart from my files and music and stuff.. |
| 20:14:42 | SuperSnout | do you think i should try again with optimised? |
| 20:14:56 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Colour problem now fixed in CVS. |
| 20:15:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Neat. Thanks. :) |
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| 20:15:44 | egotrippen | supersnout: that's up to you. it shouldn't be acting up that badly |
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| 20:15:56 | SuperSnout | ok.. 2nd time lucky then.. |
| 20:16:09 | SuperSnout | (more like 2nd time i do it right) |
| 20:16:28 | egotrippen | same thing =-) |
| 20:17:17 | nobelium | back |
| 20:17:20 | nobelium | hmm |
| 20:17:34 | SuperSnout | didn't work.. |
| 20:17:35 | nobelium | is this translatable? |
| 20:17:37 | nobelium | id: LANG_ID3_TRACKNUM |
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| 20:17:59 | SuperSnout | now on the boot screen the last thing it says is "result: -1" or something.. |
| 20:18:02 | SuperSnout | =( |
| 20:18:03 | amiconn | Bah, I keep clicking 'daily builds' when I want to see the build table :( |
| 20:18:05 | nobelium | SuperSnout |
| 20:18:13 | nobelium | your rockbox installation is faulty then |
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| 20:18:27 | nobelium | result -1 normally means .rockbox / rockbox.iriver isn't present |
| 20:18:29 | nobelium | easy |
| 20:18:34 | nobelium | just connect it via USB |
| 20:18:40 | nobelium | unzip rockbox |
| 20:18:41 | nobelium | and restart |
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| 20:18:53 | SuperSnout | oh yeah.. oops... i forgot that before unzipping the build i have to unzip the standard rockbox stuff.. |
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| 20:19:02 | nobelium | :p |
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| 20:19:13 | nobelium | I still ned that translating answer please :P |
| 20:19:29 | skwad-away | i think yes |
| 20:19:32 | skwad-away | cause there is : eng: "[Tracknum]" |
| 20:19:34 | nobelium | eng: "[Tracknum]" |
| 20:19:48 | nobelium | going to be hard to translate this one :/ |
| 20:20:26 | SuperSnout | oh yeah.. there was somthing i wanted to ask.. |
| 20:20:33 | SuperSnout | do you know what the dict plugin is? |
| 20:21:24 | nobelium | yes |
| 20:21:33 | linuxstb | Wow, the new build system is fast - 6m 25s for the last commit. |
| 20:21:51 | * | petur prepares his first ooops commit :/ |
| 20:21:57 | safetydan | nobelium, have a look at the other translations for the same string |
| 20:21:58 | skwad-away | rockbox dictionnary |
| 20:22:05 | SuperSnout | do i first copy over the standard .rockbox folder and rockbox.iriver? and then unzip the daily build? |
| 20:22:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Curse you for beating me to the posting. I was waiting for the build to finish. |
| 20:22:16 | SuperSnout | or do i just copy over rockbox.iriver? |
| 20:22:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: What do you mean "daily build" |
| 20:22:52 | SuperSnout | sorry.. i meant optimized.. |
| 20:23:01 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I can't believe I've been playing the same Rockboy game on both my 4g and 5g and didn't notice the colours were different... |
| 20:23:01 | safetydan | SuperSnout, the instructions should be in the thread where you got the build from |
| 20:23:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: If you're using the optimized, you should just unzip and copy over everything from it. It should have a rockbox.iriver and a .rockbox of its own |
| 20:23:11 | skwad-away | nobelium: in french it is : new: "[N° Piste]" |
| 20:23:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Wow. I have to ask, what game? |
| 20:23:34 | linuxstb | Just jetpac |
| 20:23:43 | SuperSnout | so.. delete ALL the system files first? |
| 20:23:50 | SuperSnout | including rockbox.iriver? |
| 20:24:18 | SuperSnout | oh god... =D |
| 20:24:22 | SuperSnout | i think i know what i did.. |
| 20:24:31 | SuperSnout | in winzip i only had one file selected =D |
| 20:24:41 | SuperSnout | no woneder it didn't work.... |
| 20:24:46 | SuperSnout | *wonder |
| 20:24:54 | nobelium | thanks skwad |
| 20:25:02 | amiconn | gnuboy is indeed written for portability rather than speed :/ |
| 20:25:28 | linuxstb | amiconn: I didn't like to try and understand the rest of that code.... But it does need looking at. |
| 20:25:34 | amiconn | The colour calculation looks, erm, ... |
| 20:25:49 | SuperSnout | yay.. optimized actually comes with doom.. |
| 20:26:01 | linuxstb | amiconn: It does seem to be a long journey.... |
| 20:26:13 | amiconn | I don't mean the rockbox specific adaption |
| 20:26:57 | amiconn | Optimising rockboy will require thorough understanding of the gnuboy code |
| 20:27:01 | SuperSnout | oh.. actually rockdoom doesn't.. i need to download the .wad files again.. |
| 20:28:06 | amiconn | t0mas: Is it possible to see which distributed build server did a specific target build? |
| 20:28:48 | t0mas | for me... yes |
| 20:29:35 | amiconn | Hmm, ok |
| 20:30:12 | amiconn | Different q: Does ccache require any configuration? |
| 20:30:21 | t0mas | no, it doesn't |
| 20:30:35 | amiconn | Hmm, is it detected by configure? |
| 20:30:43 | SuperSnout | i wonder why when you extract optimized it creates an empty folder calle doom.. anyone know? |
| 20:30:45 | t0mas | no, it's a setting in the buildscript |
| 20:31:03 | amiconn | Hmm, I want to use ccache with my local builds |
| 20:31:12 | t0mas | ./configure −−ccache |
| 20:31:15 | amiconn | Perhaps that'll speed things up on cygwin |
| 20:32:04 | SuperSnout | ARGH.. another problem... now when i go to browse plugins it says "no plugins" |
| 20:32:06 | SuperSnout | what do i do? |
| 20:32:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: You did copy over the .rockbox folder and all it's contents, right? |
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| 20:32:34 | egotrippen | check your plugins folder, make sure things are there |
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| 20:33:14 | SuperSnout | is it because i have .rockbox hidden? |
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| 20:33:54 | skwad-away | just check your plugins folder like they said |
| 20:34:29 | SuperSnout | there isn't even a plugins folder |
| 20:34:36 | SuperSnout | they're all in a folder called rocks |
| 20:34:50 | SuperSnout | why would it be looking in the wrong place? |
| 20:36:03 | skwad-away | wait I download it |
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| 20:36:24 | safetydan | SuperSnout, it's possibly because you have it marked hidden |
| 20:36:44 | SuperSnout | ok.. i'll try it with all things unhidden |
| 20:37:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: They're supposed to be in rocks, yes. You don't need to hide .rockbox. But you shoudl be able to safely hide rockbox.iriver |
| 20:38:38 | SuperSnout | ok.. that worked |
| 20:38:48 | SuperSnout | shame i can't hide .rockbox |
| 20:38:53 | nobelium | what is a TOP-OFF charge? |
| 20:38:56 | nobelium | quick charge? |
| 20:39:29 | safetydan | SuperSnout, why would you need to? It's usually not visible on the player itself |
| 20:39:42 | SuperSnout | what's the Picture folder about? It has the startup images and a button plan thing.. can i hide it? |
| 20:39:44 | nobelium | and TRICKLE charge |
| 20:40:04 | SuperSnout | safetydan: really? oh =D ok.. i didn't notice |
| 20:40:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: if you have it set to show "Supported" .rockbox will automatically be hidden |
| 20:40:34 | SuperSnout | yeah i do.. |
| 20:40:39 | skwad-away | nobelium: i would say it means battery is charged |
| 20:40:49 | SuperSnout | how about the picture folder though? |
| 20:40:56 | nobelium | desc: in info display, shows that top off charge is running |
| 20:40:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: The picture folder is probably just something they added, and should be deletable. It's not there in normal builds, at least. |
| 20:41:00 | nobelium | "is running" |
| 20:41:12 | skwad-away | yes but in french I understand that |
| 20:41:30 | skwad-away | and under you have "in info display, shows that trickle charge is running" |
| 20:41:38 | skwad-away | that means in charge |
| 20:41:42 | SuperSnout | so you don't think it's using the startup images in it for actually starting up? |
| 20:41:59 | skwad-away | but perhaps I'm false |
| 20:42:15 | nobelium | k..thanks |
| 20:42:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: Well, try renaming the folder, and if it still starts, then delete it. If not, just change the name back. |
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| 20:43:51 | skwad-away | wait nobelium i look what is written in german |
| 20:44:07 | safetydan | What's the stack alloca function called again? __builtin_alloca? |
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| 20:44:40 | skwad-away | I don't understand what it means |
| 20:44:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: I thikn that's it. Though maybe one more _ before it? I'm not sure. |
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| 20:45:40 | SuperSnout | i'm a bit confused about how to set up doom on the optimized =( |
| 20:45:48 | nobelium | SuperSnout |
| 20:45:53 | nobelium | it's really easy |
| 20:46:00 | nobelium | get the doom1.wad and place it under \Doom |
| 20:46:06 | nobelium | go to Browsw Plugins -> Doom |
| 20:46:08 | nobelium | done |
| 20:46:18 | SuperSnout | nice =) |
| 20:46:20 | SuperSnout | cheers |
| 20:47:20 | SuperSnout | can i hide it? |
| 20:47:31 | skwad | you like hiding things ^^ |
| 20:47:33 | egotrippen | ahahahahahaha |
| 20:47:37 | egotrippen | yeah, really |
| 20:47:42 | SuperSnout | it's true.. |
| 20:47:48 | SuperSnout | i don't like the clutter =) |
| 20:47:51 | safetydan | SuperSnout, you probably can't hide anything that the plugins use |
| 20:47:56 | SuperSnout | why should you see things if you don't need to use them... |
| 20:48:31 | skwad | then you should hide many things in your life ^^ |
| 20:48:44 | linuxstb | It shouldn't cause a problem if you set the "hidden" attribute on the /doom folder - but you can't move it. |
| 20:49:59 | SuperSnout | oh.. maybe it's ok if you only hide the folder and not the files inside.. |
| 20:50:21 | SuperSnout | this is really strange... rockdoom has different controls in optimised |
| 20:51:14 | skwad | is the optimized version open source ? |
| 20:51:20 | nobelium | yes |
| 20:51:36 | nobelium | http://rbh300.chendo.net/RockBoxH300Optimized-200602230015-v0.62-Source.zip |
| 20:51:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | skwad: It kinda has to be, because of the GPL. |
| 20:51:54 | SuperSnout | the thing is.. the .wad file is the same.. but the controls are different |
| 20:51:57 | SuperSnout | i'm confused |
| 20:51:57 | skwad | I don't understand why he does not all this work for rockbox :S |
| 20:52:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: the controls are based on the executable, not the wad. |
| 20:52:17 | SuperSnout | okay |
| 20:52:18 | nobelium | I think he has a point on that |
| 20:52:20 | egotrippen | the .wad is just the level |
| 20:52:29 | SuperSnout | do you know if there's strafe? |
| 20:52:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | skwad: Those are all just patches he's collected. Not all of them have even been submitted to the patch tracker. |
| 20:52:32 | nobelium | why cluttering rockbox stuff with non-basic things? |
| 20:52:40 | nobelium | rockbox concentrates on vital functions |
| 20:52:46 | nobelium | rather then small plugins/optimizations |
| 20:52:47 | amiconn | Gah, ccache doesn't help anything in cygwin, it even slows down compilation |
| 20:53:04 | nobelium | I wouldn't like the rockbox team worried about getting doom working on h3xx |
| 20:53:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | nobelium: Many of those could be included in Rockbox if they'd just submit them to the patch tracker, and make sure they fit the guidelines in CONTRIBUTING |
| 20:53:09 | aegray | whats the fastest/best mp3 codec you guys have used? |
| 20:53:10 | skwad | yeah but album art would be nice |
| 20:53:30 | * | amiconn removes ccache again |
| 20:53:32 | egotrippen | skwad: i'm sure album art will be committed eventually |
| 20:53:33 | nobelium | yes, I guess that would be the optimum option for sure |
| 20:53:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doom is even on the patch tracker, but it's still got a lot of cleanup work to go. |
| 20:53:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | But things like Bubbles haven't even been submitted for some reason |
| 20:53:49 | egotrippen | but a lot of the things in the H300 Optimized are just extra |
| 20:53:57 | SuperSnout | so does anyone know if there's strafe in rockdoom? |
| 20:54:12 | LinusN | also, many of the patches in the "optimized" build are just half-baked solutions tailored for the h300 platform |
| 20:54:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: I don't believe so. |
| 20:54:17 | amiconn | h120 target, w/o ccache 6min, first ccache build 9min, next ccache build 7 min |
| 20:54:33 | LinusN | amiconn: what a downer :-( |
| 20:54:52 | skwad | nobelium: I understand for Doom, because the goal is not games, but I find things like album art interesting |
| 20:54:52 | t0mas | maybe cygwin takes to much overhead to start ccache? |
| 20:54:59 | nobelium | yes, me too |
| 20:55:01 | nobelium | I agree on that |
| 20:55:13 | egotrippen | album art's gonna be committed eventually |
| 20:55:29 | skwad | yep I saw you already said it :-) |
| 20:55:44 | egotrippen | most of the WPS things were on the optimized first, because they don't check them like the devs do |
| 20:56:24 | egotrippen | the bitmap progress bars, an early color hack, and the 24bit bitmaps were on optimized a couple days to a week before the dialy build picked 'em up |
| 20:56:55 | skwad | so the normal rockbox can make them better ^^ |
| 20:57:12 | egotrippen | the normal rockbox makes them more stable |
| 20:57:18 | egotrippen | it's got stricter requirements on code |
| 20:57:21 | webguest37 | 'Optimized' is really a misnomer...should be more like 'Experimental, Unstable & Potentially Harmful' |
| 20:57:25 | SuperSnout | is there any way to find out what the controls are for rockdoom? |
| 20:57:30 | SuperSnout | and how to strafe.. |
| 20:57:53 | Mikachu | try all buttons |
| 20:57:57 | skwad | just test the controls supersnout, or then download the source and look in the doom file |
| 20:58:05 | nobelium | 1552/3000 :| |
| 20:58:11 | Mikachu | nobelium: what are you doing? |
| 20:58:21 | nobelium | translating to portuguese |
| 20:58:25 | Mikachu | ah |
| 20:58:28 | egotrippen | i wouldn't say potentially harmful... they're not messing with the bootloader or anything |
| 20:58:29 | nobelium | from scratch |
| 20:58:35 | egotrippen | but otherwise, i agree |
| 20:58:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: You can't really strafe, I believe. |
| 20:59:02 | SuperSnout | that's annoying.. |
| 20:59:09 | SuperSnout | is there any way to change the controls? |
| 20:59:15 | skwad | in the source |
| 20:59:17 | webguest37 | I few weeks back they applied a power management patch that was bordering on dangerous from what I understand...totally untested and experimental |
| 20:59:28 | SuperSnout | it would be much nicer if navi was shoot rather that up being shoot.. |
| 20:59:32 | egotrippen | ah, oh yeah |
| 20:59:34 | egotrippen | forgot about that |
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| 21:00:04 | nobelium | I actually use the Opt. Version |
| 21:00:15 | nobelium | but yes, they change some "critical" stuff |
| 21:00:21 | egotrippen | not all the patches say how complete they are on their pages |
| 21:00:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: As he said, you can make all the changes to the controls you want if you compile your own copy. |
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| 21:00:42 | egotrippen | but yeah, i'd be wary of power management stuff that's not committed |
| 21:00:59 | webguest37 | The album art is tempting however, hopefully it'll make cvs in the near future |
| 21:01:22 | egotrippen | you'd be better served patching CVS yourself, IMO |
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| 21:01:37 | egotrippen | if nothing else, i don't like the navi button turning the screen on on first press |
| 21:02:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I have my own personal "optimized" build for iPod |
| 21:02:19 | webguest37 | But with album art in particular, I would prefer not to go through the hassle of setting everything up according to the patch and then have specs change before it gets committed |
| 21:02:38 | egotrippen | i changed by gwps.h button mappings and did a little filetree patch, just using CVS |
| 21:02:41 | egotrippen | good point |
| 21:02:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | But I'm not about to go pile every patch on it or anything. No album art, just things that I really felt make a big difference to my using it. And if they prove unstable, then bye. |
| 21:03:08 | egotrippen | changed my^ |
| 21:04:31 | egotrippen | i just stopped changing my own colors a little while ago. with backdrops and 24bit WPSs it's not really necessary |
| 21:04:37 | egotrippen | and there's the committed color changer now too |
| 21:05:27 | egotrippen | that's another thing the optimized had for a long time before CVS, but it just had a couple presets to cycle through. the fully user-changeable is better |
| 21:05:48 | SuperSnout|AWAY | compiling my own version of rockdooms sounds complicated |
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| 21:06:10 | SuperSnout | is there anywhere i can just find out the controls? |
| 21:06:21 | egotrippen | ask people who use it more than we do |
| 21:06:31 | Mikachu | didn't you get some hints already? |
| 21:07:37 | SuperSnout | how would i compile my own version of rockdoom then? |
| 21:07:51 | SuperSnout | where would i find the file that has the controls settings? |
| 21:07:54 | egotrippen | try to get your hands on the Rockbox Devkit |
| 21:07:59 | egotrippen | i'm not sure if it's still available |
| 21:08:03 | SuperSnout | you have to use a kit? |
| 21:08:13 | egotrippen | it's just a program |
| 21:08:17 | SuperSnout | you can't just edit a few values in notepad? =) |
| 21:08:25 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 21:08:38 | egotrippen | but then to change that notepad thing into code, you need the devkit |
| 21:08:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Supersnout: Edit the values then you'd still have to compile it after. |
| 21:08:53 | egotrippen | it's small and fairly easy to use, if you can still find it |
| 21:08:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | The file is i_video.c. |
| 21:09:15 | egotrippen | if not, you'll have to spend an hour or so setting up Cygwin... it's a hassle, but a lot more powerful once it's done |
| 21:09:55 | egotrippen | i just switched over the other day to get the simulator working. if you deal with patches a lot, it's necessary |
| 21:09:59 | SuperSnout | what is compiling anyway? |
| 21:10:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | egotrippen: It's not really a hassle to set up cygwin any more, since you just select packages. Don't even have to make crosscompilers. |
| 21:10:06 | SuperSnout | and how do you do it? |
| 21:10:29 | egotrippen | paul_the_nerd: is still took me an hour or two. one download messed up towards the end |
| 21:10:42 | egotrippen | it's not really hard, but it takes time |
| 21:11:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | egotrippen: Fair enough. Believe me, before the cygwin packages worked, it took a little bit longer, and had quite a bit more potential for typos. |
| 21:11:10 | egotrippen | heh |
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| 21:11:24 | egotrippen | i've played around with a Linux distro a little, before i got a laptop and couldn't work the video out |
| 21:11:26 | egotrippen | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 21:11:37 | egotrippen | i miss the paste feature on Mepis |
| 21:11:58 | egotrippen | supersnout: that's the guide, it |
| 21:12:04 | egotrippen | it's fairly straightforward |
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| 21:12:15 | SuperSnout | thanks =) |
| 21:12:20 | egotrippen | sure |
| 21:12:30 | egotrippen | there's one with screenshots too, optional |
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| 21:13:00 | SuperSnout | argh.. so the controls are in a file called i_video.c? |
| 21:13:04 | SuperSnout | where is that file? |
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| 21:14:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: In the doom source. |
| 21:15:27 | SuperSnout | the doom source? |
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| 21:15:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | The source code for doom |
| 21:15:45 | SuperSnout | where is that =S |
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| 21:15:56 | SuperSnout | i know where the wad file is |
| 21:16:01 | Dr_Spoon | i've been using gimp to draw some bitmaps, and they're coming out all garbled |
| 21:16:03 | SuperSnout | and the .rock file.. |
| 21:16:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: The source code is in an entirely separate .zip |
| 21:17:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dr_Spoon: Are you saving them as 24-bit, windows format? |
| 21:17:22 | SuperSnout | oh.. it wont be on my iriver? |
| 21:17:26 | Dr_Spoon | gimp is awfully complicated - is there a linux app more like ms paint? |
| 21:17:43 | Dr_Spoon | yes i am... i think |
| 21:18:44 | Dr_Spoon | they are 24bit bmps yes |
| 21:18:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:19:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: You can't just make one small change. You'll have to run a program to rebuild the plugin itself. |
| 21:19:18 | SuperSnout | ='( |
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| 21:19:31 | SuperSnout | okay.. are there any guides/ |
| 21:19:33 | SuperSnout | ? |
| 21:19:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment as egotrippen said |
| 21:20:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dr_Spoon: Odd. What kind of garbled, and where are you using them? |
| 21:20:45 | webguest31 | hi, quick question, if i want to print a line of text on the LCD to test somthing, is there a supported way of doing that? |
| 21:21:25 | safetydan | webguest31, screen->putsxy(x, y, str) |
| 21:21:51 | webguest31 | screen is global? |
| 21:21:52 | safetydan | or gui_syncsplash() |
| 21:21:58 | safetydan | webguest31, no |
| 21:22:07 | safetydan | Are you in a plugin or in the application? |
| 21:22:22 | webguest31 | application |
| 21:22:24 | safetydan | gui_syncsplash is probably your best bet |
| 21:22:36 | webguest31 | ok cool. thanks |
| 21:22:40 | safetydan | as it's the easiest to use |
| 21:22:45 | SuperSnout | do you think there's any way of finding out what my rockdoom version is? |
| 21:23:02 | safetydan | note gui_syncsplash does actually take parameters, I was just too lazy to type them |
| 21:23:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: Check the Optimized thread and see what version they say they're using. |
| 21:23:32 | webguest31 | yea, i figured :) |
| 21:24:22 | Dr_Spoon | the correct colours - but the pixels are all in the wrong places |
| 21:25:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dr_Spoon: Like, shifted or what? |
| 21:26:24 | Dr_Spoon | maybe shifted - it seems to just be random |
| 21:26:39 | linuxstb | How are you viewing the bmp files? |
| 21:27:17 | Dr_Spoon | what happens if you put the wrong size in the function call, maybe i've done that |
| 21:27:36 | linuxstb | You need to explain in more detail what you are doing. |
| 21:27:39 | Dr_Spoon | in a plugin |
| 21:27:58 | Mikachu | more than that |
| 21:28:49 | Dr_Spoon | compiling space_invaders for h100 with different images |
| 21:29:27 | Dr_Spoon | sorry- typin is well slow on a pda :-( |
| 21:29:56 | linuxstb | So you replaced some existing .bmp files with new ones? |
| 21:30:24 | egotrippen | supersnout: http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/2969 |
| 21:30:48 | egotrippen | you need that diff |
| 21:30:49 | egotrippen | and this |
| 21:30:50 | egotrippen | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/doom.zip |
| 21:30:56 | Dr_Spoon | no - i saved differrent names and edited the correct SOURCES file to include them on 160x128 lcds |
| 21:31:01 | egotrippen | but you can't really do anything until you get cygwin working |
| 21:31:29 | Mikachu | SuperSnout: before you get ahead of yourself, are there any free buttons you could use for strafing? |
| 21:31:48 | SuperSnout | i've found someone elses button map idea.. |
| 21:31:55 | egotrippen | heh, good call. no use strafing if you can't turn |
| 21:32:19 | SuperSnout | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=397726&highlight=strafe#post397726 |
| 21:32:20 | SuperSnout | =) |
| 21:32:32 | SuperSnout | looks perfect.. exactly how i was imagining.. |
| 21:33:04 | SuperSnout | what do you think? |
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| 21:33:23 | egotrippen | yeah, looks alright |
| 21:33:47 | SuperSnout | so what would the next step be? |
| 21:34:48 | SuperSnout | the link you sent for doom.zip isn't working.. |
| 21:34:54 | egotrippen | if there's no precompiled DOOM on that link with the buttonmappings you want... |
| 21:35:03 | egotrippen | i'll take a look at that too |
| 21:35:26 | Dr_Spoon | i'll just check my #defines |
| 21:35:37 | egotrippen | for now, get Cygwin working, then use this guide |
| 21:35:38 | egotrippen | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 21:35:42 | egotrippen | to get the CVS |
| 21:35:54 | egotrippen | wait, will you need that |
| 21:35:55 | egotrippen | ? |
| 21:36:12 | SuperSnout | i'm just completely baffled at the moment |
| 21:36:21 | egotrippen | yeah, i don't do much with plugins |
| 21:36:29 | egotrippen | either way, you'll need cygwin |
| 21:36:36 | egotrippen | start with that while i look for the doom source |
| 21:36:55 | SuperSnout | the doom source is on the doom thread.. |
| 21:37:12 | egotrippen | link? |
| 21:37:36 | SuperSnout | the diff thing.. |
| 21:37:45 | egotrippen | ah, right |
| 21:37:55 | egotrippen | you will need the CVS, to apply the diff |
| 21:37:57 | Dr_Spoon | for any hope of getting space_invaders included in cvs will i need to make a patch? would space_invaders be something u'd want? |
| 21:37:58 | SuperSnout | it's the doom.zip that doesn't work |
| 21:38:02 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 21:38:14 | SuperSnout | what is the doom.zip? |
| 21:38:17 | egotrippen | the diff makes some changes to Rockbox so that Doom can work |
| 21:38:24 | egotrippen | doom.zip is the source of the plugin |
| 21:38:25 | SuperSnout | ok.. |
| 21:38:30 | linuxstb | Dr_Spoon: Yes, I'm sure space invaders would be welcomed. And yes, you should make a patch and submit it to the patch tracker. |
| 21:39:01 | egotrippen | ok, and on that nore |
| 21:39:02 | egotrippen | note |
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| 21:39:17 | egotrippen | you want this diff, and not the old one: http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/?getfile=10959 |
| 21:39:31 | egotrippen | and this doom.zip |
| 21:39:32 | egotrippen | kkurbjun/doom.zip">http://alamode.mines.edu/~kkurbjun/doom.zip |
| 21:39:34 | webguest31 | it looks like gui_syncsplash takes several parameters, the first is HZ |
| 21:39:35 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 21:39:41 | webguest31 | what is that? |
| 21:39:57 | Mikachu | ticks per second |
| 21:40:05 | Mikachu | so if you say HZ, it will sleep 1 second |
| 21:40:11 | Mikachu | and 5*HZ will be five seconds etc |
| 21:40:26 | webguest31 | ah |
| 21:40:30 | | Quit Chamois (Client Quit) |
| 21:40:32 | egotrippen | so, what you want to do is get cygwin, following the instructions i first gave you here |
| 21:40:33 | egotrippen | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 21:40:39 | | Join Chamois [0] (n=Florian@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:40:48 | egotrippen | then, get a copy of the CVS with this guide |
| 21:40:49 | egotrippen | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 21:41:00 | egotrippen | apply the .diff, make the changes you want to doom |
| 21:41:04 | egotrippen | and compile |
| 21:41:06 | SuperSnout | ok... i have both things saved now.. |
| 21:41:22 | nobelium | 3000 lines done |
| 21:41:26 | nobelium | 400 to go ;| |
| 21:41:33 | nobelium | wrong |
| 21:41:34 | nobelium | 781 |
| 21:41:35 | nobelium | eheh |
| 21:41:37 | Dr_Spoon | i'll look into it the wiki docs are good. I'm 15 and a little new to this... |
| 21:41:37 | ender` | on what platforms does doom work? |
| 21:41:46 | egotrippen | H300 |
| 21:41:46 | webguest31 | where is HZ defined? cant seem to find it using grep |
| 21:41:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | ender': All color platforms |
| 21:41:55 | egotrippen | ah |
| 21:41:59 | SuperSnout | it's amazing =D |
| 21:42:03 | * | ender` has H120 :( |
| 21:42:15 | Mikachu | webguest31: install ctags and use a ctags-capable editor, it will save you hours |
| 21:42:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | ender': Well, it *might* run on H120. I really don't know. I hear the display code was taken from iDoom, which worked on 2-bit ipods. |
| 21:42:29 | LinusN | webguest31: firmware/export/kernel.h |
| 21:43:16 | SuperSnout | ok.. i'm installing cygwin now.. |
| 21:43:17 | safetydan | yeesh... I'm really not getting anywhere with this directory copy/move stuff... |
| 21:45:50 | safetydan | for some reason recursion with two external stacks just gets very confusing |
| 21:46:23 | SuperSnout | wow.. ...... it's complicated to install.. thank god there's a guide.. |
| 21:46:52 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 21:46:54 | Dr_Spoon | recursion gives me a headache |
| 21:47:17 | egotrippen | it's basically like WINE for linux, which allows you to run windows programs under linux |
| 21:47:30 | Cassandra | New MP3 players are soooo annoying. It always takes over an hour to copy my music library onto them. |
| 21:47:35 | SuperSnout | i'm suck installing it.... |
| 21:47:45 | egotrippen | except, not quite, becuase i think you need linux programs built specifically to Cygwin |
| 21:47:55 | safetydan | Cassandra, the iPod finally arrived? |
| 21:48:05 | SuperSnout | "If Zip and Unzip are not selected, ie ‘skip’… Click on the work skip and the text changes to the current version number, and the checkbox for the binary is selected." |
| 21:48:13 | SuperSnout | what the hell is that supposed to mean? |
| 21:48:16 | egotrippen | haha |
| 21:48:18 | egotrippen | hold on |
| 21:48:19 | Cassandra | safetydan: Yup. |
| 21:48:46 | Cassandra | Just put Rockbox on it but can't try it until the music library has finished copying over. :( |
| 21:48:52 | egotrippen | ok, you see the component screen, words with the little corsshairs next to them? |
| 21:48:53 | Cassandra | I have such a hard life.# |
| 21:48:53 | SuperSnout | ahhh.. i think work is supposed to be word |
| 21:48:55 | safetydan | woo, another tester for the iPod builds |
| 21:48:57 | Dr_Spoon | SuperSnout: it means u'll install that version |
| 21:48:58 | egotrippen | one should say archive |
| 21:49:11 | * | Cassandra didn't even bother installing iTunes. I mean ... why would you? |
| 21:49:16 | linuxstb | :) |
| 21:49:31 | egotrippen | under archive, look for zip/unzip |
| 21:49:36 | SuperSnout | so i should just click on all the word skips in the achive bit? |
| 21:49:43 | egotrippen | no |
| 21:49:48 | egotrippen | just next to zip and unzip |
| 21:49:52 | Cassandra | safetydan, I've been testing the iPod builds on my Nano since they were first playing audio. ;) |
| 21:50:03 | SuperSnout | oh ok |
| 21:50:05 | SuperSnout | found them |
| 21:50:09 | egotrippen | cool |
| 21:50:13 | SuperSnout | just click on those 2 skips? |
| 21:50:17 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 21:50:19 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 21:50:25 | egotrippen | you don't need most of the stuff Cygwin can include |
| 21:50:32 | Cassandra | I believe I designed the first ever Nano colour WPS too. |
| 21:50:33 | safetydan | Cassandra, ah... I forget that some people have more than one MP3 player |
| 21:50:46 | egotrippen | now do the same, under Devel is binutils, cvs, etc |
| 21:50:50 | Cassandra | safetydan, erm ... 4 and counting. |
| 21:50:55 | SuperSnout | how do i know what the current version number is? |
| 21:50:57 | egotrippen | only click the skips next to the ones it says you need |
| 21:51:10 | egotrippen | i think once you click skip it should give a version number |
| 21:51:16 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 21:51:18 | linuxstb | Cassandra: So when is boxes-320x240c coming? |
| 21:51:20 | egotrippen | whatever it displays is going to be the current one |
| 21:51:46 | Cassandra | Likely to be five after Devcon since [IDC]Dragon may be bringing me a player to stick a hard drive into. |
| 21:52:04 | Cassandra | linuxstb, didn't I do it already? Silly me. |
| 21:52:33 | linuxstb | And then boxes-240x320c for markun... |
| 21:52:47 | Cassandra | What's he got then? |
| 21:52:51 | linuxstb | Gigabeat |
| 21:52:58 | Cassandra | Ah, right. |
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| 21:53:16 | | Quit Chamois (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different") |
| 21:53:19 | Cassandra | You know, I really want image scaling code in the WPS. |
| 21:53:31 | linuxstb | Or in the build system..... |
| 21:53:37 | Cassandra | Then I might be able to reduce the number of different versions I have to maintain. |
| 21:53:58 | Cassandra | linuxstb, that'd do, true. |
| 21:54:02 | SuperSnout | when i pressed next it said download incomplete =S |
| 21:54:10 | Cassandra | Really boxes needs a redesign for larger screens. |
| 21:54:23 | egotrippen | that's a pain. happened to me once too |
| 21:54:29 | Cassandra | It was designed for the H120 but it's a bit cramped on higher res screens. |
| 21:54:32 | egotrippen | you need to pick a different mirror and do it again |
| 21:54:59 | SuperSnout | does it have all the things selected the same? |
| 21:55:07 | egotrippen | nope |
| 21:55:14 | SuperSnout | oh god =| |
| 21:55:17 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 21:55:18 | SuperSnout | ='( |
| 21:55:29 | Cassandra | I think I'm finally going to have to give in and concede that browser backgrounds shouldn't carry over to the WPS though. |
| 21:55:30 | egotrippen | at least it happened to you right away |
| 21:55:32 | SuperSnout | here we go again..... |
| 21:55:38 | SuperSnout | thanks for the help by the way.. |
| 21:55:41 | egotrippen | sure |
| 21:55:46 | SuperSnout | i hope i get it to work in the end |
| 21:56:19 | egotrippen | i've gotta go to class pretty soon, but other people here will be able to help with the plugin itself better than i can |
| 21:56:33 | egotrippen | cygwin will take a while to get set up, anyway |
| 21:56:36 | Dr_Spoon | what about a way of only including only wps made for the target LCD in the build system? |
| 21:56:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: I think that there should be the option to set a background color in the WPS, and if you have that line set, the browser background doesn't carry over. |
| 21:56:38 | SuperSnout | ot HAS kept all the connections =) |
| 21:56:46 | egotrippen | has it? cool |
| 21:56:50 | SuperSnout | *it |
| 21:56:56 | SuperSnout | *selections =S |
| 21:57:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: So, if there's an %X or a %<backgroundcolorthingy> it doesn't carry over. If neither of those, it does. |
| 21:57:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | That way, if someone DOES make a background-agnostic WPS, it can still work |
| 21:57:31 | linuxstb | We should at least have global bg/fg colour tags for the wps. |
| 21:57:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems WPSes shouldn't be restricted to the same BG and FG colors are your menu anyway |
| 21:57:35 | SuperSnout | is there someone who could help me once egotrippen has gone? |
| 21:57:52 | SuperSnout | 15% |
| 21:58:01 | linuxstb | I mean global, as opposed to different lines of text being different colours. |
| 21:58:02 | egotrippen | i think the compile guide will take you most of the way |
| 21:58:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Yeah, I figured that. It was continuing my thread, rather than responding to you. |
| 21:58:33 | SuperSnout | okay.. but how will i find what i need to change? |
| 21:58:35 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Yes, so was I... |
| 21:58:37 | Dr_Spoon | i'll be here for half an hour - but cygwin might take longer |
| 21:58:45 | SuperSnout | =) |
| 21:58:52 | SuperSnout | thanks Dr |
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| 21:59:08 | egotrippen | to apply the diff, you'll need to put it in the \rockbox folder after you d/l the CVS |
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| 21:59:15 | egotrippen | d/ling the CVS is in the guide |
| 21:59:32 | SuperSnout | okay... what is applying the diff anyway? |
| 21:59:45 | SuperSnout | would the diff change the controls? |
| 21:59:54 | egotrippen | a .diff is a list of changes to the CVS |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:02 | egotrippen | no, but you need it to make DOOM run |
| 22:00:15 | SuperSnout | and putting it into the rockbox folder and starting up rockbox will change the controls.. |
| 22:00:26 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 22:00:28 | egotrippen | no, hold on |
| 22:00:31 | egotrippen | heh |
| 22:00:34 | SuperSnout | =) |
| 22:00:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, we need *5* 0-score builds. Just 5. |
| 22:00:47 | egotrippen | Cygwin can download the latest bleeding edge build |
| 22:00:56 | SuperSnout | build of what? |
| 22:01:03 | egotrippen | of Rockbox |
| 22:01:13 | egotrippen | once that's done, you apply the .diff so DOOM can run |
| 22:01:22 | egotrippen | then you edit the DOOM source to get the controls how you want |
| 22:01:42 | SuperSnout | but why would i need to download rockbox? |
| 22:02:02 | SuperSnout | wow.. cygwin is going to take soooo long to download.. |
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| 22:02:21 | egotrippen | well... because i don't know how to compile a plugin outside the context of compiling rockbox |
| 22:02:25 | egotrippen | :) |
| 22:02:43 | egotrippen | either way you'll need Cygwin, downloading the CVS is easy/quick |
| 22:03:06 | nobelium | damn |
| 22:03:11 | nobelium | where do I change to UTF? |
| 22:03:13 | nobelium | can't find |
| 22:03:19 | egotrippen | if you still want to use the optimized, you should be able to just bring the doom.rock or whatever it's called from the finished product, and not the entire build |
| 22:03:44 | Cassandra | Paul_The_Nerd, the thing is that changing the WPS resets your background any way. (It has to because otherwise you'll get weird effects from all those Winamp style skins.) |
| 22:03:52 | egotrippen | but i'd apply the .diff anyway, because if there's a conflict it won't compile at all |
| 22:03:58 | SuperSnout | i'm using optimized now... |
| 22:04:12 | SuperSnout | oh dear.. i'm running out of space on the drive!!! ='( |
| 22:04:19 | Cassandra | Given that, it probably makes sense to have the WPS background and browser background totally separate. |
| 22:04:19 | egotrippen | agh |
| 22:04:27 | SuperSnout | this is so tricky |
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| 22:04:33 | egotrippen | yeah, it's a pain |
| 22:04:45 | egotrippen | but once Cygwin is in, it gets really easy to apply patches |
| 22:04:53 | Cassandra | Anything else is probably too confusing, nifty though the idea of being able to make a "background agnostic" wps was. |
| 22:04:57 | SuperSnout | ok.. that's good to know |
| 22:04:59 | egotrippen | you can make your own personal Optimized build that maybe isn't so buggy |
| 22:05:01 | nobelium | damn |
| 22:05:09 | nobelium | egotrippen, can you tell me where to change to UTF? |
| 22:05:13 | nobelium | can't find that option |
| 22:05:26 | egotrippen | nope, don't know enough about that |
| 22:05:27 | SuperSnout | would i need to know some kind of programming code to patch things? |
| 22:05:28 | | Quit Rondom ("I'm leaving on a jetplane, don't know when I'll be back again...") |
| 22:05:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Fine by me honestly. I just like getting to say the word "agnostic" any change I get. It's fun. |
| 22:05:32 | egotrippen | sorry |
| 22:05:42 | safetydan | hrmm... using the plugin buffer for file copies did not make as much difference as I'd hoped |
| 22:05:47 | egotrippen | snout, you need to know code to apply your own patches |
| 22:05:55 | egotrippen | i mean, write your own patches |
| 22:06:08 | Cassandra | Paul_The_Nerd, eschaton is also good. Haven't figured out how to tie that one into Rockbox yet. |
| 22:06:10 | egotrippen | but to apply patches off the patch tracker, you just need to know how .diff files work |
| 22:06:20 | egotrippen | which you're gonna learn today, if things go right |
| 22:06:33 | amiconn | mhrmph... |
| 22:06:38 | SuperSnout | oh.. so is there a file that changes the controls to what i want already? |
| 22:06:48 | egotrippen | not that i've seen |
| 22:06:53 | Cassandra | Thinking about it, given that we now have support for separate fonts in WPS and browser, I'm inclined to say we ought to have separate background settings too. |
| 22:06:56 | Dr_Spoon | i'd recommend getting the optimised source then hacking the included doom - no dual boot required |
| 22:06:58 | egotrippen | but buttonmappings are pretty straightforward |
| 22:07:04 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 22:07:14 | SuperSnout | please god |
| 22:07:14 | egotrippen | if you can't tell what part of the code is a buttonmapping, someone here should be able to help you easily enough |
| 22:07:19 | Cassandra | (And in recording and FM etc.) |
| 22:07:22 | SuperSnout | it's so nearly finnished |
| 22:07:29 | SuperSnout | please let my disk space last.. |
| 22:07:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dr_Spoon: No dual boot is required with the normal source + doom either. |
| 22:07:33 | egotrippen | heh |
| 22:07:56 | egotrippen | actually, that's a good call |
| 22:07:56 | Cassandra | It's also not 'optimised'. More 'living on the edge'. |
| 22:07:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | egotrippen: It's in the i_video.c file, a set of #defines partway down. |
| 22:08:04 | SuperSnout | i think it has stopped =( |
| 22:08:11 | Cassandra | (Or even more on the edge that standard Rockbox.) |
| 22:08:15 | linuxstb | Cassandra: Yes, it should now be trivial to add more colour settings to Rockbox. Personally, I would quite like to be able to set a different fg/bg colour for the status bar. |
| 22:08:37 | egotrippen | Cassandra: yeah, we know it's a misnomer. i don't use it |
| 22:08:42 | Cassandra | linuxstb, the status bar badly needs a complete revamp. |
| 22:08:54 | linuxstb | I know. Wasn't Paprica working on something? |
| 22:09:11 | Paprica | im working on the color calendar |
| 22:09:14 | Cassandra | I vaguely remember a patch, but there have been so many ... |
| 22:09:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: AFAIK there's a patch on the tracker that loads all the status bar icons from a single .bmp... |
| 22:09:39 | SuperSnout | yes.. it has frozen and stopped downloading |
| 22:09:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's a far cry from full customization though. |
| 22:09:44 | SuperSnout | it says no package |
| 22:09:50 | Cassandra | Paul_The_Nerd, that sounds like a darn good idea. |
| 22:10:03 | Cassandra | Then we can have status bars as part of a theme too. |
| 22:10:14 | Cassandra | (Assuming it supports different sizes.) |
| 22:10:21 | egotrippen | ugh. sorry snout |
| 22:10:22 | linuxstb | At the very least, we need to move the icons to external .bmp files, and have different sized built-in icons for the larger LCDs. |
| 22:10:25 | SuperSnout | what do i do? |
| 22:10:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: I don't know if that patch does. |
| 22:10:37 | egotrippen | if you get it working, use this instead of the CVS source |
| 22:10:38 | egotrippen | http://rbh300.chendo.net/RockBoxH300Optimized-200602230015-v0.62-Source.zip |
| 22:10:49 | egotrippen | just start tryin again. get a book or something |
| 22:10:53 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 22:11:00 | nobelium | yes!!! |
| 22:11:02 | nobelium | done :D |
| 22:11:04 | Cassandra | Wow. The iPod Video disk is amazingly quiet. |
| 22:11:06 | nobelium | saved as UTF-8 worked |
| 22:11:06 | egotrippen | clear off some HD space if that's the problem, if not then try a different mirror |
| 22:11:10 | SuperSnout | that's the same thing as i have running right? |
| 22:11:13 | Cassandra | I have to hold it right up to my ear to hear it. |
| 22:11:25 | SuperSnout | i've cleared a bit but it's still frozen |
| 22:11:28 | SuperSnout | too late i think.. |
| 22:11:29 | Cassandra | (Although it is inside an iSkin.) |
| 22:11:55 | Paprica | http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump0602272310051io.png |
| 22:12:04 | * | Cassandra is kind of annoyed that the iPod looks so cool but you have to hide it away to avoid scratches. |
| 22:12:23 | nobelium | that's all it is |
| 22:12:27 | nobelium | "looks cool |
| 22:12:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: I personally like my iSkin better than my iPod Nano anyway. |
| 22:12:30 | nobelium | but isn't cool ;) |
| 22:12:56 | SuperSnout | if i install again should it override all the stuff that's already downloaded? |
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| 22:13:12 | Cassandra | I kind of like the shiny silver back. |
| 22:13:29 | egotrippen | i don't think so, you should clear it out manually |
| 22:13:41 | Cassandra | It's a bit crummy that all the black iPods come with white accessories though. |
| 22:13:44 | SuperSnout | aargh.. i have to remember where it all is.. |
| 22:14:03 | safetydan | Is the only way to update a patch file in the tracker is to add it as an attachment to a comment? |
| 22:14:03 | egotrippen | and yeah, that .zip is what you're running now, but it's the source of it that you can edit and comple yourself |
| 22:14:09 | Cassandra | Not normally the kind of ball I'd expect 'style over substance' Apple to drop. |
| 22:14:14 | | Part aegray_ |
| 22:14:47 | SuperSnout | so i'm going to be editing the source.. and then using it to replace all the system that i have at the moment? |
| 22:14:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I was kinda surprised they put all the white stuff in with black ipods too |
| 22:14:55 | linuxstb | Cassandra: I assume you're not using the stock white earbuds though. |
| 22:15:52 | Cassandra | linuxstb, gods no. I'm sticking with my Etymotics. |
| 22:15:55 | egotrippen | yeah. using that .zip you won't need the diff |
| 22:16:06 | egotrippen | just change the DOOM stuff to the way you want it, and compile |
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| 22:16:24 | evilware | hey |
| 22:17:28 | evilware | hello |
| 22:17:47 | SuperSnout | when downloading it keeps sticking at /etc/postinstall/post-texmf.sh "no package" |
| 22:17:48 | egotrippen | as cygwin is installing again, you should try again to look for the devkit |
| 22:17:54 | SuperSnout | what do i do? |
| 22:17:57 | | Quit solexx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 22:17:59 | egotrippen | you have to pick a different mirror |
| 22:18:04 | SuperSnout | i have |
| 22:18:10 | egotrippen | hm |
| 22:18:21 | egotrippen | try another one, i guess :) |
| 22:18:31 | SuperSnout | and when i press cancel it says installation complete =S |
| 22:18:33 | SuperSnout | i wish |
| 22:19:16 | SuperSnout | same again.. |
| 22:20:18 | SuperSnout | ok.. i've tried 3 different mirrors they all stop there ='( |
| 22:20:48 | egotrippen | hm |
| 22:21:00 | egotrippen | dunno what to tell ya. maybe someone else can figure it out |
| 22:21:07 | egotrippen | i've got class. happy hunting |
| 22:21:14 | SuperSnout | thanks =) |
| 22:21:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, if you notice that file it in /postinstall/ so it sounds like somethings going wrong *after* the files are downloaded. |
| 22:21:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Independent of the mirror, probalby, though I couldn't guess what. |
| 22:21:34 | SuperSnout | hmm.. okay |
| 22:21:57 | SuperSnout | could it be connected with the fact that i ran out of space? |
| 22:21:58 | | Quit egotrippen ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 22:22:41 | SuperSnout | and then when i press cancel it says nothing needs to be installed |
| 22:23:55 | SuperSnout | help!! this doesn't look good... i have loads of sh.exes running! |
| 22:24:56 | | Quit safetydan ("Leaving") |
| 22:25:07 | * | Paul_The_Nerd knows very little about the Cygwin install process. |
| 22:25:28 | SuperSnout | ok.. |
| 22:25:30 | | Quit evilware () |
| 22:25:54 | SuperSnout | argh.. maybe i should restart... |
| 22:26:10 | SuperSnout | i've deleted the files i had already downloaded... |
| 22:26:15 | SuperSnout | ok.. i'll restart.. |
| 22:26:20 | SuperSnout | brb |
| 22:26:21 | * | Mikachu hugs absence of windows |
| 22:26:27 | | Quit SuperSnout ("Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") |
| 22:27:19 | | Quit mikearthur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
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| 22:28:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: My next laptop will be researched to make sure that it's linux-friendly. This one was a warranty replacement, so I didn't have much say. =/ |
| 22:28:20 | * | petur looks for somebody with colinux knowledge |
| 22:28:28 | * | amiconn curses X11 |
| 22:28:42 | amiconn | Why the *** doesn't DPMS work ??? |
| 22:28:50 | Mikachu | nvidia? |
| 22:28:55 | amiconn | ATI |
| 22:29:16 | Mikachu | ah |
| 22:29:16 | Bagder | that's not an x11 issue |
| 22:29:19 | Mikachu | well ti's up to the display driver |
| 22:29:20 | Bagder | its a drivers issue |
| 22:29:42 | amiconn | Well, xscreensaver should enable dpms, no? |
| 22:29:50 | Mikachu | it can't if the driver doesn't support it |
| 22:29:52 | Bagder | it does for me |
| 22:29:58 | amiconn | My xorg.conf has Option "DPMS" both for device and monitor |
| 22:30:02 | Mikachu | does xset force dpms on or something work? |
| 22:30:11 | linuxstb | Does anyone know if bmp2rb should work on a mono bitmap 7x144 pixels in size? |
| 22:30:29 | amiconn | It should work on any bmp |
| 22:30:53 | amiconn | ...uncompressed bmp that is |
| 22:31:00 | linuxstb | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/test.bmp |
| 22:33:42 | amiconn | Mikachu: xset dmps force off tries to force the monitor into the off state, but all it does is blank the screen |
| 22:34:01 | amiconn | Monitor stays in on state, just black, same way as with xscreensaver |
| 22:34:59 | Mikachu | i would go ahead and blame the driver thne |
| 22:37:00 | linuxstb | Is anyone looking at my bmp file? |
| 22:38:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: That's odd. |
| 22:38:32 | markun | amiconn: I had to add Option "DPMS" |
| 22:38:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Just tried it, and see what you mean. It outputs an array of just one value in each entry? |
| 22:38:41 | markun | to my Section "Monitor" |
| 22:38:51 | amiconn | markun: I have that option, both for device and monitor |
| 22:38:57 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Yes - with "-f 0", it just produces an array of zeros |
| 22:39:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Yup, that's what I got too. |
| 22:40:28 | Paprica | linuxstb, http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/2981 |
| 22:40:31 | Paprica | very simple |
| 22:40:40 | Paprica | i need to work on it more |
| 22:41:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: It's odd. If I save it as 24-bit, it's fine. If I save it back as 1-bit, it doesn't work again. |
| 22:42:11 | Paprica | (i hope that i right with my thought, are you working on custom statusbar icons?) |
| 22:43:58 | linuxstb | Paprica: I was just trying to move the existing icons into external .bmp files that the bmp2rb build system can use. |
| 22:44:15 | Paprica | blah |
| 22:44:15 | Paprica | ok |
| 22:44:19 | Paprica | sorry =] |
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| 22:44:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Make it 1 pixel wider, and it works. I think it's the odd width maybe? Limitation of bmp2rb for mono |
| 22:44:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | ? |
| 22:45:41 | amiconn | Mikachu: Hmm, strange, if I go back to analog VGA, DPMS works. With DVI it doesn't work |
| 22:48:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Why would a 7x144 bitmap be 638 bytes, and a 144x7 (which also works with bmp2rb) be 202? (I tried rotating it, and then tried just increasing the width by one) |
| 22:49:12 | LinusN | Paul_The_Nerd: because bmp files are 32-bit aligned |
| 22:49:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 22:49:22 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: bmp lines are padded to 32bit |
| 22:49:36 | * | Paul_The_Nerd learns something new every time he comes here. |
| 22:49:58 | LinusN | this bug is most likely a rounding error somewhere |
| 22:51:00 | amiconn | The padding calculation seems off... |
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| 22:56:21 | amiconn | linuxstb: Could you test something for me? I think I got it right: |
| 22:56:36 | amiconn | change line 162 of bmp2rb.c into |
| 22:56:38 | amiconn | padded_width = ((width * depth + 31) / 8) & ~3; /* aligned 4-bytes boundaries */ |
| 22:57:04 | linuxstb | Doing it now... |
| 22:57:22 | amiconn | Bah, this bug is oooold |
| 22:58:44 | linuxstb | Yes, that seems perfect. |
| 22:58:53 | amiconn | okay, I'll commit |
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| 22:59:44 | LinusN | wow, there certainly is a difference in power consumption when playing music with rockbox vs the iriver firmware |
| 22:59:51 | linuxstb | I'm not sure how we should deal with arrays of bitmaps with the bmp2rb build system though. |
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| 23:00:15 | amiconn | Arrays of bitmaps? You mean this bitmap strip? |
| 23:00:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | LinusN: how big? |
| 23:00:33 | linuxstb | In apps/recorder/icons.c it is an array of bitmaps - I've just exported it as a single bitmap. |
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| 23:01:05 | LinusN | the iriver firmware draws a measly 60mA when decoding MP3, while Rockbox draws 100mA doing nothing at 11MHz |
| 23:01:15 | amiconn | Well, using the strip as-is is possible with lcd_mono_bitmap_part(), but it will probably increase code size a bit |
| 23:01:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Could you just run through a loop and use a stride like bitmap part to put it into the proper array? |
| 23:01:17 | Bagder | whoa |
| 23:01:18 | LinusN | something is seriously wrong! |
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| 23:02:59 | webguest11 | hey preglow, are you there :) |
| 23:03:00 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, that's what I did in Sudoku when I converted my arrays of numbers into single bitmaps. |
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| 23:03:43 | amiconn | linuxstb: There are a number of functions for displaying one single icon. |
| 23:04:06 | LinusN | an interesting thing is that the iriver firmware draws 100mA doing nothing in the playing screen |
| 23:04:13 | amiconn | What about merging these into one function, taking the icon id as a parameter ? |
| 23:04:35 | amiconn | LinusN: I suspect that one thread forgets to sleep... |
| 23:04:38 | LinusN | and then goes down to 60mA when playing the music |
| 23:04:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | ...? |
| 23:04:49 | amiconn | ...but perhaps there are more problems than just that |
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| 23:05:59 | SuperSnout | argh.. i can't find the link to the guide to installing cygwin anymore |
| 23:06:04 | SuperSnout | where was it again? |
| 23:06:22 | LinusN | rockbox.org, click on "ocumentation" |
| 23:06:26 | LinusN | documentation |
| 23:06:27 | SuperSnout | ok |
| 23:06:29 | SuperSnout | thanks |
| 23:06:33 | LinusN | surprisingly |
| 23:07:10 | Bagder | the concept of docs in documentation is hard to grasp |
| 23:07:20 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:07:21 | LinusN | as soon as i stop the music, the current consumption goes up to 100mA again |
| 23:07:54 | Bagder | LinusN: its just crazy |
| 23:08:26 | LinusN | btw, boosting the cpu from 45mhz to 124mhz costs 30mA |
| 23:08:45 | LinusN | the backlight draws 50mA |
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| 23:08:52 | LinusN | 40-50 |
| 23:08:56 | stripwax | ello |
| 23:11:47 | amiconn | LinusN: H3x0? |
| 23:11:55 | LinusN | yes |
| 23:12:03 | stripwax | I have an Ogg Vorbis file that allegedly plays fine in everything except Rockbox. The user who logged a bug for this emailed me the file privately. I will make it available privately: |
| 23:12:26 | amiconn | LinusN: Will you do similar measurements for h1x0 as well? |
| 23:12:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: What version of oggenc was used to create it? |
| 23:13:03 | stripwax | http://www.beermex.com/test.ogg |
| 23:13:12 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - don't know. It's only just been sent to me. One sec.. |
| 23:13:41 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - hhrmmm.. Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (GTune 3, beta 1) |
| 23:13:59 | stripwax | ooh. also this: |
| 23:14:20 | stripwax | Warning: Hole in data found at approximate offset 4431618 bytes. Corrupted ogg. |
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| 23:14:38 | stripwax | hrm. and this: Warning: Hole in data found at approximate offset 4500 bytes. Corrupted ogg. |
| 23:14:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, it sounds like it's corrupted |
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| 23:15:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Also, 2002-07-17 sounds kinda old. |
| 23:15:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not sure when vorbis 1.0 was though. |
| 23:15:27 | LinusN | amiconn: maybe one of those days |
| 23:17:10 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - I'll check vorbis.com .. I know that the vorbis encoder that comes with the Rio Karma is approximately that old (circa 2002) |
| 23:17:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: Rockbox doesn't support pre-1.0 vorbis files I believe. |
| 23:17:51 | godzirra | I asked this before but dunno if I ever got an answer... Can you rate mp3s on rockbox the way you can on itunes and some other media players on a PC? |
| 23:17:56 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - understood. If this turns out to be pre-1.0 then that sounds like the problem.. will check with the user. |
| 23:18:10 | stripwax | godzirra - yep. you need to have the tag database enabled in rockbox |
| 23:18:18 | godzirra | How do you enable that or check and see if its enabled? |
| 23:18:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: I don't know the dates though, but you also mentioned that whatever you checked with listed corruptions. |
| 23:18:34 | godzirra | And does that rate it just in the tag database? (i.e. if I copy the mp3 off of the rockbox, it doesnt keep the rating?) |
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| 23:19:13 | stripwax | godzirra- http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagDatabase And yes, it just rates it in the tag database. I think all other media players behave the same way, I don't think there is any way to tag the file itself |
| 23:19:21 | stripwax | But I could be wrong! |
| 23:19:41 | godzirra | Huh.. ok. I thought there was a rating in the id3 tag. Bummer. |
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| 23:19:50 | stripwax | Also the tag database is kinda buggy. |
| 23:20:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: I don't believe rockbox writes to your files at all, ever. |
| 23:20:15 | * | Paul_The_Nerd thinks that's a good policy for a portable device. |
| 23:20:33 | Bagder | also, the concept should hold for more than mp3 |
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| 23:20:59 | godzirra | Paul_The_Nerd: I don't disagree.. it would just be useful for some instances. |
| 23:21:00 | Bagder | not that the tagdb is very good anyway... |
| 23:21:25 | godzirra | Does tagdb work like the original apple firmware? i.e. I can click "artists -> Seven Nations -> play all Seven Nations" ? |
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| 23:21:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: Well, it seems that once the tagcache is implemented, someone could create a plugin for Foobar or some other player, to sync it. |
| 23:21:38 | godzirra | I'm erading the page and it looks like it works like that, but ascii tree art is kind of funny :) |
| 23:22:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | godzirra: It should work like that, but it's kinda... the code is old, and not maintained at the moment, so it may have bugs. A replacement is in the works though. |
| 23:22:41 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - the bitstream format for vorbis was frozen Monday, May 8th 2000. Now, whether this guys encoder is 1.0 compliant or not is a different matter. But something is defintely corrupted. |
| 23:23:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: Yeah, if it's corrupted, it's hardly Rockbox's fault for not playing it, even if other players tolerate or accept it. :) |
| 23:23:43 | Hideo | speaking of database, HCl is gone again? :) |
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| 23:24:01 | jlo | hi all |
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| 23:25:31 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - yeps. Maybe I should encourage the guy to hop onto #rockbox and tell us about it. Seems the file he sent me is one that other players 'tolerate' but which caused Rockbox to freeze completely. IMO rockbox should not tolerate corrupted audio files, but it should not freeze either. |
| 23:25:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: I agree, freezing in *any* situation is not exactly desirable behaviour. |
| 23:26:51 | jlo | preglow : did you test the crossfeed soft ? |
| 23:27:22 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - yeah. Did you download the track yet? I'll try running it thru the sim and see if I can catch where it dies. Also - what is this tagdb replacement you speak of ? :-) |
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| 23:29:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: I downloaded the file, but I haven't looked at it. Also, the sim's audio playback isn't necessarily indicative of Rockbox on hardware. *especially* since I hear it's touchy about vorbis at the moment anyway. |
| 23:29:21 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - ah, oh .. |
| 23:30:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: It's called tagcache, and it sounds like it's basically tagdb, but built on-box using rockbox's metadata handlers. |
| 23:30:05 | stripwax | Hrm, well, it doesn't hang.. |
| 23:30:39 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - groovy. I think that's the way it should always be ; I never grokked the offline db update thang |
| 23:30:40 | Cassandra | Hmmm. I was getting pauses in playback, but it's stopped now. |
| 23:31:24 | Cassandra | splash() needs fixing for custom colours. |
| 23:32:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: The only thing is that it could take a while to generate. I'd still prefer that, though |
| 23:32:13 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - weird. Rockbox seems to (rightly) do nothing with t his corrupted ogg. The sim plays vorbis back fine afaict :-) |
| 23:32:29 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd - yeah, for a one-off, I'd be ok with that. |
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| 23:32:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: Odd, I'd heard many people couldn't get vorbis to play. (though, the last time I tried it worked too. Heh) |
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| 23:35:33 | amiconn | stripwax: Building the db on target takes a good while |
| 23:35:54 | amiconn | I tested it on h140, archos recorder and ondio |
| 23:36:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | How long did it take on h140? I mean, I know your library wouldn't reflect how long mine might take, but I'm curious what kinda time range we're talking. |
| 23:37:23 | Shadowarrior13 | How's doom progress coming on the iPod? |
| 23:37:56 | stripwax | amiconn - I'd imagine it would take less time than it takes to run the old Perl tagdb builder on my fileserver (it took over 24 hours .. my fileserver is a 266Mhz NSLU2 ... :-) ) |
| 23:38:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Shadowarrior13: There's a patch in the tracker, that you can use to play it. |
| 23:38:19 | Bagder | stripwax: shut of the dreaded crc check and it'll fly |
| 23:38:22 | Bagder | off |
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| 23:38:57 | stripwax | Bagder - I'm sure you're right. I found three bugs within minutes of enabling "Show: ID3 Tags" so turned it all off again and haven't looked back .. |
| 23:39:04 | amiconn | stripwax: huh? The perl thingy took a couple of minutes here... running it directly over the USB-mounted target |
| 23:39:08 | stripwax | (i.e. rockbox hanging or doing insane things) |
| 23:39:16 | stripwax | amiconn - cool. |
| 23:39:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: Yeah, my database ended up with several multiple entries for the same song, and empty entries in other places. |
| 23:39:49 | Shadowarrior13 | Paul: I'd have to compile that, which I'm the worst person in the world at, as you should know :P |
| 23:39:54 | stripwax | amiconn - but I bet your PC is more powerful than mine.. |
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| 23:40:56 | Hideo | lol |
| 23:40:58 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: For some reason I don't find the numbers for H140 anymore, but I remember that H140 and recorder weren't too far apart speed-wise. It seems to depend mostly on disk speed access speed |
| 23:41:05 | Cassandra- | Right, I'm getting pauses in playback as the PCM buffer refills. |
| 23:41:23 | amiconn | Building a tagcache from ~3200 tracks took ~10 minutes on archos recorder |
| 23:41:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Are we talking "less than an hour" "less than 4 hours" or "less than a day" here? |
| 23:41:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh |
| 23:41:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | For *me* at least, that's not so bad. |
| 23:42:04 | stripwax | amiconn - I think that's acceptable |
| 23:42:16 | amiconn | 09:30 until "force tagcache update" finished, and another 30 sec at the next boot |
| 23:42:32 | Cassandra- | amiconn: You have working tagcache code? |
| 23:42:36 | amiconn | Way slower than running the perl or java thingy |
| 23:43:11 | Cassandra- | dircache on the iPod took something scarily small like for 35gigs of music. |
| 23:43:14 | amiconn | Cassandra: I have the half-baked beta from Slasheri, with a fix to make it work on alignment-picky targets |
| 23:43:38 | amiconn | I dunno whether there are endianess problems which would hit iPod |
| 23:43:39 | Cassandra- | 6 secs |
| 23:43:57 | Cassandra- | I'll hang on till it's more mature, I think. |
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| 23:44:17 | amiconn | This version doesn't do segmented browsing |
| 23:44:34 | amiconn | Other than that it works; didn't test it extensively |
| 23:44:42 | SuperSnout | paul_the_nerd: the cygwin installation is going better now =) |
| 23:44:48 | SuperSnout | i think it's nearly done.. |
| 23:45:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Segmented browsing? |
| 23:46:00 | Cassandra- | Right. I think that the Video's PCM buffer isn't filling fast enough when the system is under load. |
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| 23:46:28 | Cassandra- | (ie the PCM buffer gradually empties after I start watching the audio thread.) |
| 23:46:36 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: For normal directory browsing, it is recommended to set 'max files in dir' fairly low, just high enough for your largest dir. |
| 23:46:42 | Cassandra- | But is OK if I'm just sitting in the dir browser. |
| 23:46:54 | SuperSnout | paul_the_nerd: 50% |
| 23:47:17 | amiconn | This is especially important on archos because of the small RAM |
| 23:47:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Yeah, but what I meant to ask is "what do you mean by segmented"? |
| 23:47:39 | amiconn | However, the database 'tracks' list is most likely much longer, |
| 23:47:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 23:47:54 | amiconn | so the tagdb code handles the lists in segments |
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| 23:48:08 | amiconn | It can do this because the tagdb lists are pre-sorted |
| 23:48:20 | Cassandra- | amiconn, ah, Slasheri worked around that. Cool. |
| 23:48:27 | amiconn | tagcache doesn't do this yet, so 2 things happen here when browsing by track |
| 23:48:44 | Cassandra- | Oh, he didn't. |
| 23:48:48 | amiconn | Cassandra: tag*cache* doesn't do this yet, unlike tagdb |
| 23:48:51 | SuperSnout | it's quite funny needing a guide to install something =) |
| 23:48:58 | Cassandra- | Erm, I remember having this problem with tagdb. |
| 23:49:20 | amiconn | (1) I get a message 'dir buffer full' (2) I can only browse tracks up to "E" |
| 23:49:37 | amiconn | Rather, not up to "E" because the whole list isn't sorted |
| 23:49:53 | amiconn | but only 500 tracks (my max files setting) out of 3200 |
| 23:49:56 | stripwax | Did anyone ever get a chance to investigate http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3021 |
| 23:50:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: So, were you able to set the files/directory limit beyond the number on your player safely, tagcache would essentially be working? (Not in the "every wish is granted" sense but in the "it doesn't cause things to spontaneously melt, and lets me play files" sense) |
| 23:50:09 | Bagder | Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 239,864 |
| 23:50:25 | stripwax | If not, now that I've got the sdl sim working on my PC, I'll give it a shot. |
| 23:50:27 | Bagder | apps/firmware only |
| 23:50:39 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: Yes, but then I wouldn't be able to use the unit for a decent amount of time |
| 23:51:04 | SuperSnout | paul_the_nerd: it's done!! =D |
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| 23:51:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: Cygwin is installed successfully? |
| 23:51:53 | SuperSnout | yep |
| 23:51:59 | SuperSnout | i'm not sure what to do now though |
| 23:52:09 | SuperSnout | when i run it it opens cmd.. |
| 23:52:13 | amiconn | I don't need a db for standard operation, for me the db has just two minor purposes: |
| 23:52:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | It should open something that looks similar, but not the same, as cmd. |
| 23:52:27 | stripwax | SuperSnout - you need to check out the cvs repository next! |
| 23:52:31 | amiconn | (1) Find typos in tags (2) Find dupes I overlooked otherwise |
| 23:52:35 | SuperSnout | well yeah.. that's what it's doing =) |
| 23:52:47 | amiconn | Otherwise I prefer file browsing |
| 23:53:01 | SuperSnout | okay.. the cvs repository... what's that... the source code? |
| 23:53:09 | stripwax | yep |
| 23:53:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: I prefer file browsing too, but it'd be nice to have it on there for things like playing by Genre on occasion. Or by age, if that ever gets implemented. |
| 23:53:31 | * | Cassandra- really likes the jackash font on the iPod Video display. |
| 23:53:34 | SuperSnout | okay.. so just get the same source code as what's running on my player at the moment? |
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| 23:53:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | SuperSnout: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS if you want instructions for using the official rockbox CVS source. |
| 23:53:55 | stripwax | SuperSnout - yep.. except your player isn't running the source code, but yes |
| 23:54:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, downloading it. |
| 23:54:11 | SuperSnout | yeah whatever =) |
| 23:54:17 | stripwax | SuperSnout - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS |
| 23:54:47 | * | amiconn wonders about this genre thing |
| 23:55:19 | * | stripwax wonders what amiconn is wondering about |
| 23:56:06 | SuperSnout | ok.. i'm downloading the source now.. what next? |
| 23:56:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: I have a *lot* of various game soundtracks and/or videogame remixes that are in different scattered folders by artist, in most cases, and are all Genre Game. At the moment I have a "Game" playlist, but it would be neat, were my collection to change, to not have to update the playlist every time. |
| 23:56:21 | amiconn | None of my tracks are tagged by genre (some are occasionally, but not by me) |
| 23:56:41 | stripwax | SuperSnout - next, you'll need to "mkdir build", then "cd build", then "../tools/configure" |
| 23:56:57 | amiconn | I don't care; imho it's not possible to sort music in drawers called 'genre' reliably |
| 23:56:57 | SuperSnout | okay.. =S |
| 23:57:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: The only ones of mine that have a genre tag for me are ones like that, where I need an easy way to pull a collection out of the mix. I actually have some genred "Favorites" |
| 23:57:17 | LinusN | i'm having a hard time sorting my music by genre |
| 23:57:34 | LinusN | for example, when does "Rock" become "hard rock"? |
| 23:57:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, that's a difficult question. |
| 23:57:51 | LinusN | when the distortion pedal goes above 8? |
| 23:57:58 | stripwax | When it goes above 11 ;-) |
| 23:58:01 | LinusN | :-) |
| 23:58:12 | JdGordon | wosre.. hwne does black become death become hardcore? (metal) ? |
| 23:58:16 | amiconn | I have some very loose "genres" as top-level dirs in order to cut the size of th elists a bit |
| 23:58:17 | JdGordon | and gmorning al |
| 23:58:20 | JdGordon | all |
| 23:58:27 | LinusN | just sort it all under "Negerpunk" |
| 23:58:31 | stripwax | ouch! |
| 23:58:38 | amiconn | LinusN: haha! |
| 23:58:46 | JdGordon | negerpunk? |
| 23:58:49 | * | amiconn remembers a certain ml discussion |
| 23:58:51 | * | Moos is remenbering that long discussion about |
| 23:58:56 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 23:59:00 | stripwax | Yeah, fine-grain genres don't make a lot of sense; "rock" vs "dance" maybe all you need |
| 23:59:00 | LinusN | that's a true rockbox gem |
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