| 00:00:06 | cool2bdave | In wps it seems to copy the current and next |
| 00:00:40 | cool2bdave | is that in addition to the N loaded songs |
| 00:00:44 | Bagder | the wps doesn't copy the id3 struct |
| 00:01:06 | Bagder | but yes it uses pointers to it and the next |
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| 00:01:47 | cool2bdave | of coarse |
| 00:02:53 | cool2bdave | So would it be sensible to make my own structure in wps, decide which song is playing and extract its lyrics there |
| 00:03:17 | linuxstb | The person working on the album art patch is attempting to store the image in the audio buffer - immediately before the track itself. You could do a similar thing with the lyrics data, but you would need one static buffer to copy the lyrics into when that track starts playing. |
| 00:04:47 | cool2bdave | its a lot of memory to take up staticly, Is dynamic possible? |
| 00:05:06 | amiconn | The metadata buffers (id3 structure are static. 30 on swcodec, 16 on archos |
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| 00:05:42 | amiconn | we have no malloc() in the core, on purpose |
| 00:06:36 | JdGordon | cool2bdave: the playlist viewer uses the plugin buffer, you could use that.. |
| 00:07:02 | amiconn | Imho it doesn't make much sense to do this kind of work right now. At devcon we will discuss ideas for improving the whole audio buffer system including metadata etc |
| 00:07:29 | amiconn | JdGordon: That's not possible for buffering lyrics |
| 00:07:40 | JdGordon | y not? |
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| 00:07:59 | cool2bdave | So should I hold off till then |
| 00:08:36 | amiconn | You want to have lyrics accessible during playback. What if a plugin is loaded, or the user uses the playlist viewer? |
| 00:08:40 | Bagder | JdGordon: well, you should of course be able to run a plugin while playing songs |
| 00:09:06 | JdGordon | ye, so rebuild it after the plugin exits... you cant view lyrics while in a plugin anyway |
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| 00:09:14 | Bagder | rebuild? |
| 00:09:19 | Bagder | you mean reload from N songs? |
| 00:09:19 | JdGordon | i understand its not the best way.. but it works.. |
| 00:09:28 | Bagder | seems... odd |
| 00:09:48 | JdGordon | oh whaa??? all the lyrics are loaded at the start? not just the current song? |
| 00:09:59 | amiconn | The plugin buffer can be used for data, but only if the usage is "atomic", i.e. not interruptable by another process that would also use the plugin buffer |
| 00:10:29 | Bagder | JdGordon: we must not spin up the disk for each song, that's not clever |
| 00:10:30 | amiconn | e.g. as a buffer for copying files |
| 00:10:33 | JdGordon | righto... anyway, i have to go.. damn uni |
| 00:10:43 | cool2bdave | cheers |
| 00:13:22 | cool2bdave | On the same lines then I shouldnt store the current song data in gwps.c as that would spin up the disk each time too |
| 00:15:32 | amiconn | If we are going to support lyrics, this would need to be part of the metadata handling, |
| 00:15:51 | amiconn | so that lyrics are loaded when the song gets buffered |
| 00:15:52 | markun | cool2bdave: try linuxstb's suggestion |
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| 00:17:07 | cool2bdave | How do I get access to the audio buffer |
| 00:17:37 | cool2bdave | which files? |
| 00:19:03 | cool2bdave | audio.c? |
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| 00:20:02 | cool2bdave | only found audio.h |
| 00:26:57 | cool2bdave | mpeg.c? |
| 00:30:22 | cool2bdave | pcmbuff.c |
| 00:30:37 | cool2bdave | just one f |
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| 00:37:19 | linuxstb | cool2bdave: On software-codec platforms, I think playback.c manages the audio buffer. |
| 00:37:47 | linuxstb | This calls the get_metadata() function immediately before it starts to load each track into the audio buffer. |
| 00:38:45 | linuxstb | My suggestion would be to change playback.c to pass a pointer to some free space in the audio buffer to get_metadata(), and that function could store extra information, such as lyrics or album art in that space. |
| 00:39:45 | linuxstb | But when that track starts to get decoded, the data needs to be moved elsewhere - so that part of the audio buffer can be freed to start buffering future tracks. |
| 00:44:30 | cool2bdave | So the currently playing track should have its lyrics stored somewhere else, but all buffered tracks will have their lyrics stored until they are played |
| 00:46:24 | cool2bdave | I could use gwps.c |
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| 01:04:15 | Hideo_Kuze | lol, bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl ? |
| 01:04:27 | Hideo_Kuze | bastard students |
| 01:07:52 | muesli__ | test |
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| 01:09:04 | Hideo_Kuze | test failed |
| 01:10:39 | cool2bdave | thanks all and linuxstb, I have much code reading to do. playback.c is a long one. I will try the suggestion |
| 01:10:52 | cool2bdave | Thanks again TTFN |
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| 01:21:16 | markun | Hideo_Kuze: yep, that's me :) unfortunately my PC is also a bastard from time to time.. |
| 01:23:06 | amiconn | Hmm, am I right in thinking that pointers are usually the same size as longs? |
| 01:24:01 | amiconn | i.e. sizeof(* <any_type>) == sizeof(long) for most architectures? |
| 01:24:34 | amiconn | sizeof(* <any_type>) == sizeof(int) holds for 32bit processors, but neither for 16bit nor for 64bit |
| 01:25:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems likely that it'll be the same as a long for most architectures, I think. |
| 01:25:25 | * | amiconn is tackling the sim issues on amd64 |
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| 01:26:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Making good progress at least? |
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| 01:51:06 | muesli__ | amiconn your wife is a bug seeker? ;-) |
| 01:51:15 | amiconn | My sister... |
| 01:51:27 | muesli__ | ah ok ;) |
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| 01:54:02 | Cassandra | Was she bitten by a moose once? |
| 01:57:02 | Shadowarrior13 | No, really! |
| 01:57:38 | Shadowarrior13 | Sweden is nice this time of year. See the lakes. |
| 01:57:45 | Shadowarrior13 | The wonderful telephone system. |
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| 02:11:24 | virtualball2 | linuxstb, what are the files i need to put in my linux partition? |
| 02:11:40 | virtualball2 | i know the iPL userland but what was the bin file? |
| 02:12:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | The bin file is the ipodlinux patched uclinux kernel. It should already have a .bin extension, and you just rename it to linux.bin and put it in the Fat32 partition |
| 02:12:50 | virtualball2 | ok and i put the userland in the linux partition? |
| 02:13:12 | virtualball2 | then how would i run linux then? Would i still have rockbox installed? |
| 02:13:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | When you hold down Play while booting the iPod, it tells it to load linux.bin instead of rockbox.ipod (assuming you still have the rockbox bootloader installed) |
| 02:14:14 | virtualball2 | ok cool |
| 02:14:34 | virtualball2 | Thanks Paul and do i need to reformat if i used newfs_msdos? |
| 02:15:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Honestly, dunno. |
| 02:15:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Probably not |
| 02:15:28 | virtualball2 | ok thanks anyways, once again, you guys are really nice about questions |
| 02:15:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Assuming the first partition is the non-FSed one, the second is formatted Fat32, and the third is ext2/ext3, you should be fine |
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| 02:16:44 | virtualball2 | ya can i paste my partition map[? |
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| 02:17:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Do you not know what they're formatted as? |
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| 02:17:33 | virtualball2 | ya |
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| 02:17:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then it should all be fine. |
| 02:18:00 | virtualball2 | i just dont know about my first one, it is 27.9 GB and so is the second one :\ |
| 02:18:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | The first one shouldn't be 27.9gb |
| 02:18:43 | virtualball2 | ...well thats weird lol |
| 02:18:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Basically, it should be ~40 or 80mb (depending on which iPod you have), then Lots and lots of fat 32, then some small amount of ext2 (depending on how much you want. I made mine 150mb) |
| 02:19:01 | virtualball2 | but theres an asterik next to it |
| 02:20:57 | virtualball2 | well w/e im gunna try it, and one last thing, i type things like this "cp bin /dev/disk2s3" and it is done quickly...is that weird? |
| 02:20:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't know. I'm not that good with partition stuff. I had all kinds of problems trying to get my iPod properly partitioned to run Linux when I tried it. |
| 02:21:20 | virtualball2 | lol |
| 02:21:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | And I don't know how long that should take at all |
| 02:21:31 | virtualball2 | mkay then nvm |
| 02:21:38 | virtualball2 | thanks for your help |
| 02:21:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, for one thing, if you try formatting just one partition on an ipod in windows using the built in windows format (at least with the Nano) it destroys the partition table and consolidate the whole 'disk' into one partition. |
| 02:22:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | That caused me a few issues when I was trying to format the Fat32 portion |
| 02:22:21 | virtualball2 | basically the same with mac |
| 02:22:30 | virtualball2 | except HFS+ :P |
| 02:22:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 02:23:45 | virtualball2 | im pretty mad at iPL :P I used to think rockbox was the sucky one and iPL was good cuz it was sooo easy, but its like it has turned its back on hehe, so im pretty much rootin for RB now :D |
| 02:25:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | They're pretty different anyway. |
| 02:26:19 | virtualball2 | ya i guess, but not so much, one is basically for music the other is for games |
| 02:26:28 | virtualball2 | but both basically have the exact same :-P |
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| 02:29:00 | JdG|uni | hey all |
| 02:29:09 | JdG|uni | uni sux :'( im soo bored here |
| 02:30:36 | JdG|uni | everyone gone to bed already have they? |
| 02:30:47 | JdG|uni | damn eurpopeans and yanks |
| 02:31:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 02:31:44 | egotrippen | the Yanks should be up, it's only 8:30 |
| 02:31:49 | egotrippen | Lost hasn't even aired yet :) |
| 02:32:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | 7:30 here. |
| 02:32:27 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 02:32:30 | egotrippen | i'm on the east coast |
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| 02:32:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | I figured |
| 02:33:02 | egotrippen | 's what america gets, having three time zones in it |
| 02:33:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Four |
| 02:33:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | And Arizona |
| 02:33:27 | egotrippen | hm |
| 02:33:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Arizona and their "We're too GOOD for your 'daylight savings time'" |
| 02:33:43 | egotrippen | i'm forgetting hawaii, right? and i don't know about arizona |
| 02:33:46 | egotrippen | ah |
| 02:33:54 | egotrippen | they got the right idea, DST is a pain |
| 02:34:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Pacific, Mountain, Central, and Atlantic. |
| 02:34:23 | JdG|uni | yup, we r in DST also, i hate it so much.. why the ell do we need to the sun to be still up at 8.30pm ? |
| 02:34:56 | egotrippen | yeah - i'd rather have to wake up at the same real time every day than suddenly jump to match the sun |
| 02:35:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, is it so hard to just say "Alright, we want to save on our power bills, so starting next week, you all come in to work one hour early and leave one hour early" and NOT change the clocks? |
| 02:35:12 | egotrippen | they should make it gradual if they're gonna change it at all |
| 02:35:21 | virtualball2 | how would i move files to a hidden partition? Do i need to boot linux (Ubuntu is basically hell on eart−−well Mac lol |
| 02:36:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, if MacOS doesn't recognize ext2 or ext3, yeah, you'd probably have to boot it. |
| 02:36:36 | egotrippen | can ubuntu use a bootdisk? that's the wrong term |
| 02:36:37 | egotrippen | livedisk? |
| 02:36:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | I do not know. |
| 02:36:58 | egotrippen | where you literally run the distro off of the CD, without installing anything |
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| 02:37:31 | JdG|uni | ubutunu has a livecd |
| 02:37:39 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 02:37:42 | egotrippen | that's a great idea |
| 02:37:43 | virtualball2 | egotrippen, yes i use the live |
| 02:38:00 | egotrippen | cool |
| 02:39:02 | egotrippen | i miss Linux... i messed around with it for a few months before i got a laptop |
| 02:39:25 | egotrippen | i couldn't figure out a bunch of the laptop-y things, though, like touchpad and tv-out recognition |
| 02:39:43 | egotrippen | got it going pretty well on the desktop, though |
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| 07:27:26 | JdGordon | why cant we edit our own comments on fyspray? is that a fs limitation or its just not setup? |
| 07:29:38 | B4gder | it's the way it works, we haven't told it anything special to do so |
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| 07:29:51 | JdGordon | its annoying.. but ok |
| 07:30:16 | JdGordon | anyway, i updated the search in pl pacth again... |
| 07:31:04 | B4gder | yes, I noticed |
| 07:39:15 | Jungti1234 | http://dvdprime.dreamwiz.com/images/news_special/200602271021038900.jpg - wow... |
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| 08:44:21 | B4gder | JdGordon: in the search playlist patch: why do you use button_get_w_tmo() when you don't do anything fun when it times out? |
| 08:44:40 | JdGordon | copy/paste? |
| 08:44:52 | B4gder | and a little suggestion, use sizeof(search_str) instead of hard-coding '32' for the size of the buffer |
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| 08:45:18 | JonasNZ | wow, i want to congratulate this project, ive been trying for ages with ipl to get flac going, i find this and it just works :D |
| 08:45:37 | B4gder | JonasNZ: yay ;-) |
| 08:46:25 | JonasNZ | there are a couple of questions i have, is there a way to browse the music in certain folders like the ipod does it normally, by artist, or album etc? |
| 08:47:00 | LinusN | JonasNZ: there is a database mode |
| 08:47:10 | LinusN | but it is quite buggy as it is now |
| 08:47:23 | JdGordon | B4gder: do u want me to change those 2 things? |
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| 08:48:33 | B4gder | JdGordon: It would make it more or less "final" so why not. I haven't tried it though. And I am not a dir cache user so I don't epect to either... |
| 08:48:42 | B4gder | it'd kill me |
| 08:48:48 | JdGordon | alright |
| 08:48:56 | B4gder | I use a 4000+ playlist |
| 08:49:01 | B4gder | mostly |
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| 09:01:01 | amiconn | morning |
| 09:01:20 | JdGordon | morning |
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| 09:07:05 | amiconn | B4gder, LinusN: Is it okay to rely on sizeof pointer == sizeof long for fixing the 64 bit problems, |
| 09:07:20 | B4gder | I think so |
| 09:07:31 | B4gder | I don't know of any arch where that isn't true |
| 09:07:32 | amiconn | or should our inttypes.h rather implement intptr_t and uintptr_t ? |
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| 09:09:20 | amiconn | B4gder: I can't either, perhaps 8 bit archs? |
| 09:09:32 | B4gder | possibly yes |
| 09:10:10 | amiconn | A good thing is that this requirement (casting pointers to and from 'long' is also part of the older 'long policy' |
| 09:10:32 | B4gder | ah right |
| 09:10:37 | amiconn | So my fixes would also help the gmini port in case it will ever be picked up again... |
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| 09:11:07 | amiconn | ..and it also explains why there aren't *that* many of these warnings |
| 09:11:53 | amiconn | I'm down to 23 warnings with my last commit |
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| 09:12:05 | amiconn | Most of them are now in playback.c |
| 09:13:31 | amiconn | I also found at least one other place where our code doesn't work correctly even though it gives no warning - the functions to extract bits from / put bits into the binary settings |
| 09:14:30 | amiconn | The effect is e.g. that I can start a sim without sector3D.bin and it works fine, but if I leave it and start it again, colours are black on black... |
| 09:19:00 | B4gder | my favourite combo ;-) |
| 09:19:24 | Bg3r | B4gder better white on white |
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| 09:21:53 | JdGordon | do i want to slow down the search by adding a button_get_w_to so the search can be stopped? |
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| 09:22:19 | B4gder | ah, yes you do |
| 09:22:34 | B4gder | since it'll take *ages* with dir cache disabled |
| 09:23:11 | JdGordon | what is the abolute fastest timeout that would still work? |
| 09:23:25 | B4gder | no timeout at all, just poll for a button |
| 09:23:33 | B4gder | button_get() |
| 09:23:58 | B4gder | button_get(false) even |
| 09:24:00 | * | JdGordon slaps self |
| 09:24:36 | JdGordon | is BUTTON_OFF always defined? |
| 09:24:58 | Bg3r | JdGordon look at firmware/export/button.h |
| 09:25:01 | B4gder | most probably no key is really certain |
| 09:25:01 | Bg3r | but i doubt |
| 09:25:14 | JdGordon | ok, just using TREE_OFF then |
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| 09:26:28 | Bg3r | yes, better this way |
| 09:26:29 | amiconn | JdGordon: X5 and Player have no BUTTON_OFF |
| 09:26:34 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: I was looking at your 64-bit fixes, and wondering if you should use one of the posix types, such as size_t or off_t. |
| 09:26:49 | amiconn | linuxstb_: ?? |
| 09:27:05 | linuxstb_ | size_t seems to be the type used with pointers. |
| 09:27:09 | linuxstb_ | e.g. in memcpy |
| 09:27:49 | amiconn | I found several references to special intptr_t and uitptr_t types, |
| 09:28:12 | amiconn | (ints that match the size of a pointer) |
| 09:28:54 | amiconn | size_t would not always work, as it is unsigned |
| 09:29:35 | amiconn | ..and ssize_t is something very different |
| 09:29:49 | B4gder | yes, a signed size_t |
| 09:29:55 | B4gder | although not a standard type |
| 09:30:04 | B4gder | iirc |
| 09:30:05 | amiconn | Meh, I confused sth |
| 09:30:05 | linuxstb_ | Is there a reason you rejected intptr_t ? That would seem perfect. |
| 09:30:18 | amiconn | linuxstb_: It doesn't seem necessary |
| 09:30:44 | amiconn | sizeof pointer == sizeof long holds for all architectures I know of, |
| 09:31:37 | amiconn | possibly except 8bit. I know that on Z80 addresses are 16bit, iI'm not sure whether long is 32bit there |
| 09:32:11 | amiconn | ..but will we ever see rockbox running on an 8bit CPU? |
| 09:32:50 | B4gder | no |
| 09:33:24 | linuxstb_ | It just seems cleaner somehow to use a specific type when we need to treat pointers as integers, rather than making an assumption. |
| 09:33:51 | amiconn | Maybe, but it also implies other problems |
| 09:34:40 | amiconn | In case the value is propagated to other variables, it would be necessary to change these as well |
| 09:35:19 | amiconn | linuxstb_: I have to fix inttypes.h to work correctly on varying archs anyway, perhaps I should add intptr_t and uintptr_t |
| 09:36:28 | amiconn | B4gder: When preprocessing I can only figure out datatype sizes by checking UINT_MAX & friends, or is sizeof() available? |
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| 09:36:51 | B4gder | amiconn: nope, no sizeof() in preprocessing |
| 09:37:04 | B4gder | but you can write a test to run at configure-time |
| 09:37:11 | linuxstb_ | The sim should just use the system inttypes.h - does cygwin have it? |
| 09:37:22 | B4gder | I did that for the endian check |
| 09:37:29 | amiconn | The sim uses our own inttypes.h |
| 09:37:35 | linuxstb_ | That's a bug then. |
| 09:37:45 | amiconn | ..the same way it uses our own errno.h |
| 09:38:48 | Zagor | I didn't know we had udev and devfs support in rockbox... ;-) |
| 09:38:57 | linuxstb_ | Was that one of your recent changes to make our errno.h include /usr/include/errno.h ? |
| 09:39:15 | B4gder | Zagor: must be that new linux compatibility layer ;-) |
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| 09:40:53 | amiconn | linuxstb_: Btw, from looking at the system includes, inttypes.h isn't the header where the int*_t types are actually defined, the definitions reside in stdint.h |
| 09:41:15 | amiconn | inttypes.h includes that and then defines a bunch of other macros |
| 09:41:26 | markun | B4gder: got a reply from him yet? |
| 09:41:32 | B4gder | nope |
| 09:41:32 | amiconn | linuxstb_: Yes that was one of my recent changes. |
| 09:41:47 | B4gder | but then I think he's ignoring me already |
| 09:41:54 | B4gder | due to previous events |
| 09:42:33 | amiconn | It allows building the sim on an nptl linux system. The #ifdef magic makes it use our own errno for the win32 sim |
| 09:42:47 | markun | B4gder: what that before or after he left rockbox? |
| 09:42:48 | amiconn | ..and the sdl sim when building for windows |
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| 09:54:43 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: I know inttypes.h works at least on Linux, Mac OS X and Cygwin/mingw32 (I've written an application which uses it, and that compiles cleanly on those three platforms) So I think it should be OK to do the same #ifdef magic as errno.h in inttypes.h |
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| 10:10:08 | Zagor | wiki:IpodStatus says rockbox has "clickwheel lag". wasn't this fixed in the button driver? |
| 10:10:25 | Zagor | or isn't the fix good enough? |
| 10:14:09 | linuxstb_ | The clickwheel still needs more work, but yes, the lag has been removed. I'll fix the page. |
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| 10:28:41 | JdGordon | does any1 know how to add a drive to windows (like a fake drive from a folder on the hdd)? i know its a long shot... |
| 10:29:35 | LinusN | subst x: <path> |
| 10:29:37 | B4gder | subst |
| 10:29:59 | merbanan | JdGordon: or the long way, share the folder and then map it |
| 10:30:22 | safetydan | the drive manager snap-in should be able to do it as well |
| 10:30:50 | JdGordon | thanx guys... i was expecting some really idiotic code... damn this is gonna be sweet |
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| 10:51:23 | JdGordon | does the splash function support multiline strings? |
| 10:51:38 | Bg3r | JdGordon splash itself rearranges the lines |
| 10:51:57 | JdGordon | so u can have a multiline msg? |
| 10:54:27 | safetydan | I don't think splash() even looks for \n |
| 10:54:34 | safetydan | it will wrap the string if it thinks it needs to |
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| 10:56:35 | JdGordon | B4gder: i just tested it with dir cache off and its not much slower |
| 10:56:46 | B4gder | cool |
| 10:56:47 | JdGordon | maybe an extra 2 or 3 sec |
| 10:56:50 | B4gder | I don't understand how though |
| 10:56:59 | B4gder | of course the disk will spin the whole time |
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| 11:02:43 | JdGordon | .. and im done... again... |
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| 11:14:17 | safetydan | Someone tested my cut/copy/paste patch on Ondio with a MMC card and it seems to work copy between them. Cool. |
| 11:14:23 | safetydan | Now... should I add a progress bar? |
| 11:15:00 | JdGordon | .. probably... |
| 11:15:31 | petur | and a completely random estimated time, like windows does :) |
| 11:15:39 | JdGordon | haha |
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| 11:21:12 | safetydan | I was thinking of making it themeable so you could have a progress WPS... |
| 11:21:17 | safetydan | While Progressing Screen :) |
| 11:21:19 | amiconn | safetydan: For moving, do you try rename() first and if that fails, resort to copying? |
| 11:21:19 | skwad | Hi all |
| 11:21:32 | safetydan | amiconn, no |
| 11:21:56 | JdGordon | safetydan: its dead simple to use the currne twps.. as long as u fake the id3 info... |
| 11:22:00 | amiconn | That will be necessary for multivolume support |
| 11:22:28 | safetydan | amiconn, I hadn't got to multivolume support yet |
| 11:22:38 | safetydan | Is there a way to detect if the file is on a different volume first? |
| 11:23:01 | amiconn | Not with the standard file api |
| 11:23:20 | amiconn | The fat code does know about the volume |
| 11:23:32 | JdGordon | would any1 like to look at my latest brain-fart.. uh, i mean, patch and commit if its ok? http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4759 |
| 11:24:05 | amiconn | Hmm, when thinking about it, is there a standard errno value (Esomething) to indicate move across filesystem boundaries? |
| 11:24:28 | B4gder | EXDEV oldpath and newpath are not on the same filesystem. |
| 11:24:52 | safetydan | EXDEV |
| 11:24:55 | safetydan | ah |
| 11:25:11 | B4gder | hehe |
| 11:25:17 | safetydan | but rename just sets EIO if fat_rename fails |
| 11:25:21 | amiconn | Okay, so file.c: rename should be made to set that for move attempts across filesystems |
| 11:25:57 | amiconn | Rockbox already has EXDEV defined... |
| 11:26:33 | safetydan | should be easy enough, fat_rename returns -1 in the case of cross-volume renames |
| 11:26:43 | safetydan | other errors have different return codes |
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| 11:27:17 | amiconn | yup, just another if inside the if(rc <0) ... |
| 11:27:44 | amiconn | ..put in an #ifdef HAVE_MULTIVOLUME |
| 11:28:22 | safetydan | So who wants to do it? I can't test it without a multivolume target, but I can certainly write the code. |
| 11:28:54 | JdGordon | multiple volume as in more than 1 partition on the hdd? |
| 11:29:04 | amiconn | Hmm, I have a nice challenge for Slasheri: Make dircache work properly with multivolume and hot mounting/unmounting of volumes. |
| 11:29:44 | safetydan | JdGordon, pretty much |
| 11:29:55 | petur | will certainly need all this nice work when I ever get usbotg to work... |
| 11:30:21 | JdGordon | ill test it out |
| 11:30:31 | JdGordon | assumeing its safe to partition the disk in winxp? |
| 11:31:12 | safetydan | JdGordon, only some targets actually support multiple volumes. By some I think that means just Ondio at the moment |
| 11:31:25 | JdGordon | oh ok |
| 11:31:47 | skwad | what is multiple volumes ? |
| 11:31:53 | amiconn | JdGordon: You can use multivolume support for multiple partitions as well, |
| 11:32:21 | amiconn | but it was mainly developed for Ondio, which has 128MB of builtin flash memory, and an MMC slot |
| 11:32:31 | safetydan | amiconn, does Rockbox currently work on multiple partitions on anything other than Ondio? |
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| 11:34:04 | petur | with usbotg, it could be that a multi card reader gets attached that has n drives of which only one is valid |
| 11:34:21 | skwad | just a suggestion : wouldn't it be logical to group the wps gallery by lcd sizes and not players ? |
| 11:34:35 | B4gder | skwad: yes, lcd size + color depth |
| 11:34:43 | skwad | yep |
| 11:35:15 | skwad | cause x5 and h100 have same resolution, and h300 and ipod 4g too |
| 11:35:51 | B4gder | but x5 is color and h100 is not |
| 11:36:08 | * | JdGordon thinks thats his point |
| 11:37:27 | skwad | or just groupping the players which have same lcd size |
| 11:41:25 | skwad | yep B4gder but the x5 users could take the h100 b/w wps .... |
| 11:41:51 | skwad | making like you said; lcd size + color depth |
| 11:42:28 | linuxstb | skwad: Yes, I've been thinking the same thing. Headings like "220x176 16-bit color (iriver H300, iPod Color/Photo)" |
| 11:42:47 | skwad | yep |
| 11:43:03 | skwad | perhaps I coul do it ... it's not very difficult |
| 11:43:07 | skwad | *could |
| 11:45:06 | linuxstb | Another heading could perhaps be "Text-only", and the WPS would need to indicate how many lines of text are required - these are dependent on the combination of LCD size and the font the user chooses. |
| 11:46:26 | safetydan | amiconn, this seem okay? http://pastebin.com/579899 |
| 11:46:43 | safetydan | I'm cautious about comitting things in that area since... well it's in the scary firmware directory :) |
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| 11:48:42 | amiconn | safetydan: In fact I tested multivolume support on archos player, to see whether it has problems with mixed FAT32 and FAT32 |
| 11:49:04 | amiconn | Worked rather well after fixing some bugs. |
| 11:49:22 | linuxstb | safetydan: Looking at your latest patch (v4), I noticed that in your main copy loop, you are checking bytesread instead of byteswritten after a write. |
| 11:50:50 | safetydan | linuxstb, good spot |
| 11:51:10 | amiconn | Erm of course mixing FAT16 and FAT32 |
| 11:51:19 | amiconn | FAT16 was another Ondio first... |
| 11:52:08 | linuxstb | Also, if the write fails, maybe you should delete the created file. |
| 11:53:47 | safetydan | linuxstb, good idea. I'll fix that too |
| 11:54:16 | amiconn | safetydan: Your #fdef #else #endif sequence is wrong. |
| 11:54:36 | amiconn | The code wouldn't report other errors than EXDEV on multivolume targets |
| 11:56:16 | safetydan | yes, you're right |
| 11:58:22 | amiconn | Check my suggestion on pastebin |
| 11:58:24 | safetydan | I'll change that to just do both checks |
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| 12:00:49 | safetydan | Okay, that's the same thing I did |
| 12:00:54 | safetydan | I'll commit that now then |
| 12:03:40 | webguest76 | talking to partition things, anyone now how to fix the Rockbox Infos concerning the HD space left? |
| 12:03:50 | webguest76 | s/now/know |
| 12:04:59 | safetydan | gah... misspelt "volumes" |
| 12:05:26 | safetydan | at least it's only a debug string |
| 12:06:30 | amiconn | I purposely used 'tried' not 'failed' |
| 12:06:37 | amiconn | But it's not important either |
| 12:07:04 | amiconn | It's just a debug string, and debug bui.ds aren't possible on Ondio |
| 12:12:33 | safetydan | wow the builds are fast now |
| 12:12:47 | safetydan | it's almost quicker to commit things to the build server than to compile them locally |
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| 12:13:58 | webguest60 | webguest76: you can do it from the debug menu.. which player do you have? |
| 12:14:49 | safetydan | webguest76, what's wrong with the free space count? |
| 12:15:19 | webguest76 | that said me wrong free space |
| 12:15:56 | webguest76 | exemple: my iriver h1xx said me 2.34 GO, but I reall y have just around 600 mo free |
| 12:16:05 | webguest60 | info > debug (keep out!) > view disk info.. now press up 3 times (or until you get a listing of free space).. Press select and it should say "Scanning disk" |
| 12:16:23 | webguest60 | That'll recalculate the free space count |
| 12:16:33 | webguest76 | uh? didn't know this, let me check |
| 12:16:48 | webguest76 | what is the select button btw? |
| 12:16:57 | webguest60 | The joystick |
| 12:17:03 | webguest60 | Pressing it down. |
| 12:17:10 | webguest76 | ok thanks |
| 12:17:14 | webguest76 | I'm testing |
| 12:17:51 | webguest60 | Maybe that should be possible to do outside the debug screen, as someone mentioned on the mailinglist? |
| 12:18:29 | safetydan | IIRC it's from the FAT structure which Windows (or Linux) is supposed to update when modifying the file system |
| 12:18:35 | safetydan | obviously it doesn't work right |
| 12:18:47 | webguest76 | ok, that doesn' automaticly refresh |
| 12:18:59 | webguest76 | we need to scan like this manually |
| 12:19:18 | B4gder | or you file a bug report to microsoft :-) |
| 12:20:24 | webguest60 | Yes, windows seems utterly broken in this area (as well) |
| 12:20:28 | webguest76 | time to go, thanks webguest60 for the info |
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| 12:21:01 | webguest60 | likewise |
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| 12:43:56 | JdGordon | does any1 know if it is possible to load the windows icon for a certain file if u know the filetype? |
| 12:44:31 | Aditya|Zzzz | yeah |
| 12:44:34 | Aditya|Zzzz | its a shell call |
| 12:44:49 | JdGordon | do u know the name? |
| 12:45:05 | Aditya|Zzzz | SHGetFileInfo |
| 12:45:16 | Aditya|Zzzz | what language you using? |
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| 12:46:08 | JdGordon | c |
| 12:46:55 | Aditya|Zzzz | oh |
| 12:47:11 | Aditya|Zzzz | well I dont exactly know how to make shell calls from C but thats your guy |
| 12:47:37 | JdGordon | thanx |
| 12:47:41 | JdGordon | ill have a look |
| 12:47:51 | Aditya|Zzzz | np |
| 12:47:57 | Aditya|Zzzz | have you tried google groups? |
| 12:48:17 | JdGordon | not yet |
| 12:48:31 | petur | since when is C++ or higher required to do win32 api calls? |
| 12:49:03 | petur | JdGordon: check that on msdn (msdn.microsoft.com) |
| 12:50:15 | Aditya|Zzzz | erm |
| 12:50:20 | Aditya|Zzzz | I didn't say that.. |
| 12:50:28 | Aditya|Zzzz | I just didn't know HOW to make shell calls from C |
| 12:50:44 | Aditya|Zzzz | I use C# and C++ a lot and I only have had to use ShGetFileInfo from C# for a file browser |
| 12:50:47 | preglow | msdn is very helpful for stuff like this |
| 12:50:56 | preglow | use it all the time myself |
| 12:51:08 | Aditya|Zzzz | eh |
| 12:51:16 | Aditya|Zzzz | off to uni. |
| 12:51:18 | Aditya|Zzzz | later taters |
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| 12:51:51 | petur | ... talks a lot in his sleep ... :P |
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| 12:55:23 | petur | whoa... 8 seconds / build |
| 12:55:44 | B4gder | darned neat |
| 12:56:44 | preglow | wth? |
| 12:57:43 | preglow | not bad |
| 12:57:46 | preglow | not bad at all |
| 12:57:49 | linuxstb | Has anyone tried distcc to build Rockbox? e.g. on a home network? |
| 12:57:57 | B4gder | yes |
| 12:58:04 | preglow | pretty good looking build table too |
| 12:58:12 | B4gder | or rather, I build it on the build server with distcc to my homebox |
| 12:58:33 | preglow | how many build boxes have we got? |
| 12:58:39 | B4gder | which was too slow network for distcc to be fun |
| 12:58:50 | B4gder | preglow: 5 the last time I checked |
| 12:59:16 | preglow | very nice |
| 12:59:21 | preglow | solved that problem |
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| 13:01:14 | B4gder | a few more servers and we'll be faster than what most people build locally ;-) |
| 13:01:36 | Cassandra | Mine will be coming on line in the next week or two, hopefully. |
| 13:01:48 | petur | bah, it already is... A LOT :( |
| 13:02:53 | petur | JdGordon: you had colinux running, right? |
| 13:03:09 | JdGordon | ye, havnt got it setup properly yet tho |
| 13:03:34 | petur | mine runs, but refuses to know the dns servers I give it :( |
| 13:03:52 | JdGordon | have u got networking at all? |
| 13:03:59 | B4gder | you cygwin guys tried using ccache? |
| 13:04:13 | B4gder | I see it is available as a package |
| 13:04:33 | B4gder | install it, run configure −−ccache |
| 13:04:39 | B4gder | compare build speed |
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| 13:04:59 | petur | JdGordon: I just tried pining my windows box, maybe I should try an ip address on the net - good point |
| 13:05:41 | petur | somebody said ccache made it worse |
| 13:05:53 | B4gder | ;-( |
| 13:06:57 | safetydan | B4gder, I think amiconn tried it. His results were something like 6 minutes without ccache, 8 minutes the first time with ccache and 7 minutes the second time with cccahe |
| 13:07:10 | B4gder | haha, how crappy |
| 13:07:37 | Cassandra | What is ccache? |
| 13:07:50 | B4gder | it caches compiler results |
| 13:07:59 | B4gder | and gets them instead of rebuilding |
| 13:08:04 | B4gder | if all things remain the same |
| 13:08:09 | Cassandra | It that the same or different to pch? |
| 13:08:36 | B4gder | I don't know pch |
| 13:08:43 | Cassandra | Pre-compiled headers. |
| 13:08:46 | B4gder | ah |
| 13:08:51 | B4gder | this caches object files |
| 13:09:05 | Cassandra | Nice feature in mingw at least that cuts down on compile time a lot. |
| 13:09:16 | Cassandra | Not sure if core gcc supports it. |
| 13:09:38 | B4gder | so if you build the same unmodified source again, it just gets the cached object file instead of recompiling |
| 13:10:07 | B4gder | but of course it needs to preprocess first |
| 13:10:17 | B4gder | which I guess is what takes lots of the time on cygwin |
| 13:11:34 | linuxstb | Do you know how much ccache speeds up the builds on the build server? |
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| 13:11:59 | B4gder | not exactly, but I remember it cut down the build time by a signigicant amount when I added it |
| 13:12:14 | B4gder | like 20-30% or so |
| 13:13:11 | Cassandra | Really we ought to be using pre-compiled headers if bog standard gcc supports it. It should increase build speed quite dramatically. |
| 13:13:18 | B4gder | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Precompiled-Headers.html#Precompiled%20Headers |
| 13:16:15 | Cassandra | I notice that doesn't seem to indicate how to generate them. |
| 13:16:34 | B4gder | not with details, it just says "To create a precompiled header file, simply compile it as you would any other file, if necessary using the -x option to make the driver treat it as a C or C++ header file." |
| 13:17:49 | B4gder | but that doesn't make sense to me |
| 13:18:07 | Mikachu | Only one precompiled header can be used in a particular compilation. |
| 13:18:42 | B4gder | weird limitation |
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| 13:19:05 | Mikachu | heh |
| 13:19:07 | Mikachu | Some other command-line options starting with -f, -p, or -O must be defined in the same way as when the precompiled header was generated. At present, it's not clear which options are safe to change and which are not |
| 13:20:19 | amiconn | B4gder: safetydan is right, I tried ccache on cygwin and it is indeed counter-productive |
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| 13:22:03 | amiconn | The cygwin slowness seems to be filesystem related |
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| 13:24:27 | amiconn | Building on my linux VM is almost 3 times as fast as on the host w/ cygwin, but guess what happened when I tried building within the linux VM but directly on the hgfs shared folder? |
| 13:25:31 | amiconn | Almost as slow as under cygwin... |
| 13:25:44 | B4gder | gosh |
| 13:27:38 | amiconn | Either it's the virus scanner or ntfs itself |
| 13:42:44 | preglow | file system doesn't matter |
| 13:42:48 | preglow | it's just as bad on fat32 |
| 13:44:02 | preglow | i've never used an active virus scanner, and it was just as bad on my pc |
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| 13:46:43 | preglow | http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=399629&postcount=46 <- nice to see someone's talking about me |
| 13:48:19 | preglow | which reminds me, anyone know where the latest wma fixed point port is? i can only seem to find what was posted on our forum |
| 13:50:45 | B4gder | there was a fixed point port? |
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| 13:55:38 | preglow | well, yeah |
| 13:55:49 | preglow | a half-finished one |
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| 14:00:46 | ashridah | i seem to recall someone mentioning they were going to look into it shortly after the H3xx started playing audio or something, that's all i've seen |
| 14:04:39 | preglow | a lot of people have said they'll look at it |
| 14:04:52 | preglow | i've never heard from anyone of them again, even those i said i'd help |
| 14:10:37 | preglow | what, you have to _check_ for size_t? |
| 14:10:49 | preglow | i thought that was a built-in type |
| 14:13:47 | markun | preglow: I'm not sure. Maybe my commit isn't the best solution |
| 14:15:15 | markun | Without it I get: include/sys/types.h:46: error: conflicting types for 'size_t' |
| 14:15:32 | markun | /usr/include/stddef.h:55: error: previous declaration of 'size_t' was here |
| 14:15:32 | B4gder | size_t isn't built-in |
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| 14:15:40 | B4gder | only char, int, long, short etc are |
| 14:18:28 | preglow | right |
| 14:18:30 | preglow | it should be :> |
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| 14:30:41 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Are you still looking for the wma code? |
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| 14:33:43 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I can't find the forum thread, but I think this is the zip file the poster made available: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/WMA_V0.2.zip |
| 14:35:26 | linuxstb_ | But looking again at it now, it doesn't seem very useful - it still uses float, and it still links against libm. |
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| 14:38:41 | linuxstb_ | I seem to be talking to myself, but I've also found the forum topic - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1258.15 |
| 14:39:54 | petur | oh no, I listened... not that it helped much :) |
| 14:40:16 | markun | linuxstb_: I also listened and found the same thread |
| 14:40:31 | linuxstb_ | :) |
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| 14:41:16 | markun | http://homepage.ntlworld.ie/p.mc.quillan/WMA_V0.5.zip |
| 14:41:44 | Jungti1234 | hello all |
| 14:46:09 | linuxstb_ | markun: Thanks for that link. |
| 14:46:28 | lostlogic | man, these 5 minute builds are phenominally nice, keep catching me off guard with their speed. |
| 14:47:51 | linuxstb_ | There is some weird code in there - e.g. the initialisation of lookup tables using 256 assignment statements (table[0]=2; table[1]=1; etc...), or 256 if statements instead of a lookup table. |
| 14:48:15 | petur | hahaha |
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| 14:48:32 | linuxstb_ | It's like a lesson in how to write inefficient code... |
| 14:48:47 | petur | no wonder it required 100MHz |
| 14:49:11 | markun | linuxstb_: was it already there in the ffmpeg source? |
| 14:49:14 | linuxstb_ | But it's definitely got potential - those things are easily fixed. |
| 14:49:21 | linuxstb_ | markun: I highly doubt it. |
| 14:50:15 | markun | linuxstb_: well, fix it! :) |
| 14:50:49 | linuxstb_ | Of course - those bits are the least of our worries. |
| 14:53:55 | markun | It would be so nice if the codecs could use the same fft and mdct code |
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| 14:56:01 | linuxstb_ | I'm very tempted to give this wma decoder a go - to at least get it working (at whatever speed it can manage) under Rockbox. |
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| 14:56:54 | webguest33 | go go go! |
| 14:57:28 | XavierGr | yeah linuxstb_!! |
| 14:57:38 | XavierGr | Make the big leap :D |
| 14:58:14 | webguest33 | Once wma runs on ipod, expect a nastygram from Apple |
| 14:58:58 | markun | Does MS have problems with a GPL WMA decoder? |
| 14:59:27 | webguest33 | I don't think there's much they can do |
| 14:59:38 | webguest33 | except make the next codec harder to RE |
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| 15:00:25 | linuxstb_ | markun: The WMA decoder in ffmpeg isn't new. But I guess it has a relatively low profile. |
| 15:01:04 | XavierGr | is there any chance of realtime? |
| 15:01:23 | linuxstb_ | Of course - the original iriver firmware plays wma in realtime. |
| 15:01:44 | linuxstb_ | But how much work it's going to need is another question. |
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| 15:01:56 | XavierGr | yeah but the ffmpeg decoder may be not so optimal |
| 15:04:03 | safetydan | Wasn't the WMV spec submitted to a standards board? Wouldn't that also include the audio component? |
| 15:04:32 | amiconn | markun: (size_t and stuff for bsd) Maybe your solution isn't the best, but if it works... It goes in the same line as my errno.h fixes for nptl |
| 15:04:58 | linuxstb_ | safetydan: That all depends what audio format was proposed to go with it. But yes, Microsoft want broadcasters to use their codecs, so they've had to submit them for standardisation. |
| 15:05:12 | merbanan | safetydan: only video |
| 15:06:03 | merbanan | linuxstb: what is needed is a fixedpoint implementation of the requantization of the mdct coeffs |
| 15:06:14 | linuxstb_ | webguest33 - I don't think Apple would care - we're never going to support DRM'd WMA. |
| 15:06:49 | webguest33 | linuxstb_: I was a) more thinking of the principle of the thing: "their format on our player! An outrage!" b) kidding |
| 15:07:22 | merbanan | webguest33: their new codec is not hard at all to RE, linspire released decoders with debug info in them |
| 15:08:18 | webguest33 | merbanan: then they have failed, I guess |
| 15:08:48 | merbanan | webguest33: ps file of the call tree for wmapro init http://tranquillity.campus.luth.se/~banan/wmapro/libwma3init.ps |
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| 15:18:41 | preglow | linuxstb_: i think you should! :) |
| 15:19:10 | linuxstb_ | I only have one wma file though.... |
| 15:19:12 | preglow | the integration job is what i'm not looking forward to |
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| 15:19:17 | preglow | i only have one wma file too... |
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| 15:19:40 | webguest33 | I'm sure microsoft will happily provide a few to show off how superior the format is |
| 15:19:43 | webguest33 | *cough* |
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| 15:20:58 | linuxstb_ | I don't mind the integration job - as long as I can find some documentation on the asf format (or whatever wma is contained in...) |
| 15:21:34 | webguest33 | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/demos/audio_quality_demos.aspx |
| 15:22:40 | amiconn | Encoding to wma is not a problem with a windows box |
| 15:22:51 | webguest33 | also http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/democenter/9series/avquality/wmamp3/default.htm |
| 15:23:21 | linuxstb_ | I'm sure there will be volunteers to give preglow and me sample files... |
| 15:24:07 | webguest33 | those are short samples of different bitrates I think |
| 15:24:15 | webguest33 | probably nice for testing |
| 15:24:30 | muesli__ | linuxstb need a wma? |
| 15:25:42 | linuxstb_ | muesli__: Not yet :) |
| 15:25:49 | muesli__ | oki ;-) |
| 15:26:05 | muesli__ | just to give u a perfect jump start ;) |
| 15:26:38 | preglow | linuxstb_: i think contacting the wma port guy might also be clever, i think he's done some more work on it |
| 15:26:41 | merbanan | linuxstb: here are some samples for you http://equinox.campus.ltu.se/samples/A-codecs/ |
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| 15:32:51 | preglow | linuxstb_: i get the impression there's a lot of unneeded code here |
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| 15:33:06 | Paprica | hi |
| 15:34:56 | preglow | aaghahahaha, half of the wmadec.c code is bloody lookup tables in disguise |
| 15:35:05 | linuxstb_ | I noticed that :) |
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| 15:35:27 | preglow | my god |
| 15:35:55 | linuxstb_ | I especially love the internal_05_power_ten() function |
| 15:36:29 | preglow | yes, that in particular struck a chord with me |
| 15:36:47 | preglow | the programmer has to be from the moon or something |
| 15:36:49 | coob | coob.org/jackbauer.mp3">http://booc.coob.org/jackbauer.mp3 <- best song ever. |
| 15:37:32 | preglow | linuxstb_: the readme.txt says the ffmpeg code is taken from a 2004 branch, do you think much has changed since then? |
| 15:38:24 | merbanan | preglow: the most important fix commited was a framing issue |
| 15:38:33 | preglow | yeah, it has been changed |
| 15:38:37 | preglow | couple of bug fixes |
| 15:38:47 | preglow | nothing big |
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| 15:39:51 | preglow | huuge parts of dsputil.c are uneeded |
| 15:39:58 | preglow | cpp, at that |
| 15:40:16 | linuxstb_ | Yes, most of the time I spent on porting the FLAC decoder was deleting unused code. |
| 15:40:40 | preglow | but yeah, in the near future, when we change to svn, the libffmpegFLAC dir should probably be renamed |
| 15:41:09 | * | preglow pokes Bagder in the ribs |
| 15:41:40 | linuxstb_ | I can see more and more of ffmpeg being useful - especially if someone ever implements video. |
| 15:41:42 | merbanan | preglow: dsputil is unneeded, the mdct code from ffmpeg isn't used |
| 15:42:04 | preglow | i couldn only see dct code in dsputil anyway |
| 15:42:09 | preglow | didn't look too close |
| 15:42:48 | merbanan | it also gives you mdct routines |
| 15:43:13 | preglow | now, what the hell does simple_idct do here... |
| 15:43:31 | merbanan | I guess to make dsputil happy |
| 15:44:03 | preglow | and then we've got two different implementations of the mdct |
| 15:44:06 | preglow | one needing an fft lib |
| 15:50:38 | * | linuxstb_ spots an asf file format document on Microsoft's website: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/format/asfspec.aspx |
| 15:51:51 | amiconn | lostlogic: Why did you remove the global_settings.runtime = 0; lines from apps/gui/statusbar.c ? |
| 15:52:24 | amiconn | The runtime should be forced to 0 whenever a charger is connected |
| 15:53:14 | merbanan | linuxstb_: http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=Microsoft_Advanced_Streaming_Format |
| 15:53:19 | amiconn | Btw, this didn't work 100% on H300. It did work on the archos jukeboxes |
| 15:53:55 | amiconn | On H300 it was only forced to 0 while actually charging, not when charging was complete |
| 15:56:41 | linuxstb_ | merbanan: Do you know if that is still accurate? i.e. is v1.0 undocumented but used, and v2.0 documented but unused? |
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| 15:59:30 | merbanan | linuxstb_: not sure but new files still demux correctly with ffmpeg and mplayer |
| 15:59:59 | merbanan | try to correlate any fatal changes |
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| 16:16:24 | crashd | hmm |
| 16:16:26 | crashd | any devs aboot? |
| 16:17:10 | preglow | sure |
| 16:17:21 | crashd | hey preglow, ltns :) |
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| 16:17:30 | preglow | indeed, hehe |
| 16:17:43 | crashd | i wanted to ask about the bootloader actuall |
| 16:17:59 | preglow | go ahead |
| 16:18:05 | crashd | on the other architectures rockbox has been ported too, what happens if the bootloader doesn't quite work |
| 16:18:11 | crashd | does it, effectively, just brick the player? |
| 16:18:17 | crashd | i know the ipod has a special emergency mode |
| 16:19:27 | preglow | yes, brick |
| 16:19:31 | preglow | at least for iriver players |
| 16:19:31 | crashd | rocking |
| 16:19:40 | preglow | in the case of iaudio, you have something much like on ipod |
| 16:19:55 | preglow | but yes, for iriver players, a brick is very probably if you break the bootloader |
| 16:19:57 | crashd | as im still within my 1year statutory period here in the uk with this iriver |
| 16:20:05 | crashd | so if i brick it, i can just get a new one from the store |
| 16:20:18 | petur | no you can't |
| 16:20:26 | crashd | well |
| 16:20:30 | crashd | ive done it once alreayd |
| 16:20:32 | crashd | so im guessing i can |
| 16:20:32 | preglow | weeell, i don't exactly know uk laws, but i think flashing it with unauthorised firmware kind of voids that... |
| 16:20:37 | crashd | hehe |
| 16:20:39 | crashd | yeah, that's the idea |
| 16:20:41 | safetydan | you have to demonstrate it was unfit for sale usually |
| 16:20:43 | crashd | but they wouldnt know, as it's just a store |
| 16:20:53 | crashd | well, when ive replaced hardware that's broken before |
| 16:20:56 | muesli__ | nobody bricked his iriver so far..you would be bloody nr.1 ;-p |
| 16:21:05 | crashd | especially in high street chains, like Dixons |
| 16:21:08 | crashd | they just exchange the unit |
| 16:21:27 | petur | there's already a story of a rockboxed iriver gone bad, and no more warranty |
| 16:21:42 | petur | it wasn't rockbox that bricked it |
| 16:21:46 | crashd | well |
| 16:21:52 | petur | but they still refused |
| 16:22:03 | crashd | when i left my h10 in a red hot car over the summer for a few days, the battery broke, and they just replaced the whole unit in the store i bought it from |
| 16:22:07 | muesli__ | petur yepp, but the bootlaoder itself is safe |
| 16:23:13 | petur | the guy's hdd broke, he returned it (couldn't reflash) and they said he void his warranty |
| 16:23:20 | crashd | :o |
| 16:23:23 | crashd | where was this? |
| 16:23:41 | petur | read in the forum (here or MR, can't remember) |
| 16:23:47 | crashd | ahh, fair deal |
| 16:24:27 | muesli__ | petur that sounds logical...he shouldve built in a replacement hff before returning |
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| 16:24:37 | muesli__ | foolish if you ask me |
| 16:24:42 | petur | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2738.0 |
| 16:24:48 | safetydan | I don't think it would boot so he couldn't reflash it |
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| 16:25:20 | muesli__ | get another drive and reflash |
| 16:25:22 | muesli__ | done. |
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| 16:25:56 | safetydan | err... he wanted the drive replaced under warranty |
| 16:26:53 | muesli__ | organizations are always looking to avoid their warranty service |
| 16:28:38 | safetydan | on another topic... web services are annoying :( |
| 16:28:39 | petur | and a new report just came in: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2611.0 (happened in the UK) |
| 16:32:45 | preglow | heh |
| 16:33:03 | preglow | perhaps we should make the rockbox bootloader not spam the screen so much :-) |
| 16:35:59 | petur | support usbotg and flashing from the bootloader, so we can attach a memorystick and reflash from it :D |
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| 16:45:50 | muesli__ | petur lol |
| 16:46:15 | muesli__ | that would be awesome |
| 16:46:37 | petur | for bootloader v39 probably :P |
| 16:46:45 | muesli__ | connecting a 5 1/4 floppy ;) |
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| 16:48:45 | * | petur looks at the address of markun and notes how the university of Twente thinks about its students |
| 16:50:22 | Xerion | how so? :P |
| 16:51:08 | petur | bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl |
| 16:51:19 | Xerion | we choose our own hostnames :) |
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| 16:58:27 | markun | Xerion: quite a lot of people from Twente who come here :) |
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| 17:00:57 | markun | Xerion: you, me, HCl and Pieter (not here right now) |
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| 17:27:26 | Mongey|study | anyone speak french here? |
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| 17:34:44 | petur | Mongey|study: un peu ;) |
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| 17:36:43 | Mongey|study | yes |
| 17:36:46 | Mongey|study | emm |
| 17:36:54 | Mongey|study | can u help moi? |
| 17:37:23 | petur | with what? |
| 17:37:51 | Mongey|study | nvm its ok now |
| 17:37:55 | Mongey|study | thanks anyway |
| 17:38:06 | petur | phew... |
| 17:39:05 | Mongey|study | lol |
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| 18:12:26 | safetydan | amiconn, I just booted in to windows to try and reproduce the SDL sim "window dragging while playing sound" |
| 18:12:33 | safetydan | works fine for me (un)fortunately |
| 18:12:43 | safetydan | Sound plays no matter what I do to the sim window |
| 18:15:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: Have you tried holding an extended drag, and like... shaking it all over the place, for lack of a better way to describe it? |
| 18:16:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | I haven't done it recently, but when I first heard about it causing issues, I had to go that far cause problems |
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| 18:30:06 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, that's what I spent about five minutes doing :) |
| 18:30:16 | safetydan | My wife was looking at me funny the whole time |
| 18:30:22 | safetydan | "I'm just debugging honey" |
| 18:31:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: Well, I haven't tried that recently, so it's very possible the problem's gone anyway. :) Man, I'm glad I don't have people to look over my shoulder when I do things like that |
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| 18:59:02 | Paprica | öö |
| 18:59:05 | Paprica | mmm |
| 18:59:19 | Paprica | how can i jumo a line when i read from file? |
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| 19:08:24 | linuxstb_ | Paprica: What do you mean by "jumo" ? |
| 19:08:33 | Paprica | jump* |
| 19:08:42 | Paprica | go to the next line |
| 19:08:43 | Paprica | .. |
| 19:10:20 | linuxstb_ | You have to read the whole file in order to know where the lines are - so you can't jump lines. |
| 19:10:52 | Paprica | ok |
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| 19:22:55 | SuperSnout | Hey.. I'm running rockbox on my H300.. are there any plugins extra plugins that people could recommed? Also.. where would you get other rockdoom .wad files to play the other versions.. and if you add those files to the doom folder.. how do you select which file rockdoom runs from? |
| 19:23:06 | SuperSnout | * -plugins |
| 19:23:41 | egotrippen | i'm getting an error message re 'Playlist Control File' on the H300 CVS |
| 19:23:58 | egotrippen | most of the times when i try to resume a playlist, and sometimes when i try to add something to a playlist, it won't let me |
| 19:24:05 | SuperSnout | egotrippen: still not sorted it out? =( |
| 19:24:36 | egotrippen | i don't think i've reported this problem yet... it just began happening a couple weeks ago, i think |
| 19:24:48 | egotrippen | it's starting to really bother me, though |
| 19:24:52 | egotrippen | i like playlist resume |
| 19:25:22 | egotrippen | i don't think we can talk about where to get .wad files unless they're open source, but to play them |
| 19:25:32 | egotrippen | just rename them and put them where the one you have is |
| 19:25:41 | egotrippen | either to doom.wad or doom2.wad, i think |
| 19:27:01 | BHSPitLappy | doom2.wad is commercial, but a lot of the other wad's you can get are freeware |
| 19:27:15 | egotrippen | yeah. freeware ones we can point you to |
| 19:27:26 | egotrippen | but not like quake or hexen |
| 19:27:32 | BHSPitLappy | go to the forums at ipodlinux.org and search for "wad" |
| 19:27:37 | SuperSnout | egotrippen: must have been someone else last night who had the same problem |
| 19:27:44 | egotrippen | hm |
| 19:27:57 | egotrippen | they get any info on it? i haven't heard anyone else with this problem |
| 19:28:22 | SuperSnout | egotrippen: can't really remember.. sorry.. |
| 19:28:33 | egotrippen | eh, s'alright |
| 19:28:53 | SuperSnout | BHSPitLappy: thanks.. |
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| 19:30:24 | SuperSnout | BHSPitLappy: "No page with this exact title exists, trying full text search." |
| 19:30:42 | BHSPitLappy | SuperSnout: I said the forums, not the wiki |
| 19:31:05 | BHSPitLappy | " go to the forums at ipodlinux.org" |
| 19:31:08 | SuperSnout | oh.. seperate.. ok |
| 19:31:20 | SuperSnout | sorry.. i thought it was just a straight link.. |
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| 19:34:54 | SuperSnout | are they actually shareware BHS? |
| 19:35:16 | SuperSnout | they have doom2.wad.. |
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| 19:36:04 | BHSPitLappy | SuperSnout: no, they don't |
| 19:37:07 | SuperSnout | BHSPitLappy: *sigh* i'm awfully sorry.. i'm seem to be a bit blind today |
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| 19:48:07 | SuperSnout | i actually have the game doom.. bought it a long time ago.. do you just take the wad files of the cd? |
| 19:50:36 | SuperSnout | i have ultimate doom.. would it run? |
| 19:52:23 | egotrippen | it should |
| 19:52:47 | egotrippen | just rename the wad to what the one you have already is called |
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| 20:05:15 | amiconn | safetydan: The crash still happens here |
| 20:06:30 | amiconn | I start playing music (tested both with ogg and mp3), then start moving around the sim window. |
| 20:06:43 | safetydan | amiconn, back trace? Or is it still the "wacky negative values to pcm_buf_len" issue? |
| 20:06:48 | amiconn | Within a few seconds, music stops playing |
| 20:07:10 | amiconn | ..and then either the sim freezes or exits |
| 20:07:31 | amiconn | I was only able to reproduce the latter effect right now |
| 20:07:42 | amiconn | (tried 4 times, 2 each with ogg and mp3) |
| 20:08:31 | egotrippen | you guys have any ideas what would cause problems with the 'playlist control file' when resuming playback? |
| 20:08:36 | egotrippen | have you heard of this bug before? |
| 20:09:18 | safetydan | egotrippen, maybe trying deleting the .playlist_control file and trying again? Or possibly a scandisk. |
| 20:09:26 | amiconn | Argh! Under gdb control, the former effect happens |
| 20:09:38 | egotrippen | ok |
| 20:09:39 | amiconn | The crash freezes the whole system for several seconds |
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| 20:10:49 | amiconn | safetydan: http://pastebin.com/580593 |
| 20:11:37 | SuperSnout | okay.. i'm having problem.. i copied the wad file from my copy of ultimate doom and named it doom1.wad.. but when i play the game the startup screen is correct.. but all the rest is the same as the shareware version and i can only play knee deep in the dead.. |
| 20:11:44 | SuperSnout | *a problem |
| 20:12:30 | amiconn | doom1.wad is the wrong name |
| 20:12:41 | safetydan | amiconn, that's crashing inside the Rockbox pcmbuf code |
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| 20:13:06 | safetydan | Also, your sdl_audio_callback seems to get a much longer "len" value than mine |
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| 20:15:45 | safetydan | Yeah, my audio callback only seems to want 8192 bytes at a time |
| 20:16:25 | amiconn | pcmbuf_current is a NULL pointer |
| 20:16:28 | SuperSnout | "just rename the wad to what the one you have already is called".. what do i name it then? |
| 20:16:40 | safetydan | How big is a typical PCM block sent to the DAC? 32k? |
| 20:16:46 | amiconn | ..so the dereferencing caused SIGSEGV |
| 20:17:02 | linuxstb | safetydan: Yes, I think the callback normally gives 32KB |
| 20:17:35 | amiconn | SuperSnout: The .wad files need to have their proper names, as the doom code 'magically' adjusts its behaviour according to the name |
| 20:17:44 | safetydan | so it's almost like the pcmbuf code isn't keeping up in the sim and running out of buffers maybe |
| 20:18:22 | egotrippen | snout: try doom2.wad |
| 20:18:25 | amiconn | SuperSnout: The ultimate doom wad has to be called doomu.wad |
| 20:18:37 | safetydan | amiconn, on line 279 of sound.c, try lowering the value from 2048 to something smaller, like 512 |
| 20:18:43 | egotrippen | i dunno, if the H300 doom whatever can read that... try it though |
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| 20:18:48 | egotrippen | if it doesn't work, try doom2 |
| 20:18:52 | SuperSnout | amiconn thanks! |
| 20:20:07 | amiconn | safetydan: You mean line 276? |
| 20:20:22 | safetydan | it's 279 on my system |
| 20:20:27 | safetydan | fmt.samples |
| 20:20:34 | safetydan | fmt.sampes = 2408; |
| 20:20:42 | safetydan | can't type |
| 20:20:43 | amiconn | Yes, 276 here |
| 20:20:45 | safetydan | but you get the idea |
| 20:20:52 | amiconn | * $Id: sound.c,v 1.9 2006-02-23 21:42:53 dan Exp $ |
| 20:21:03 | safetydan | ah... yeah I just added some debug stuff |
| 20:21:13 | safetydan | sorry about that |
| 20:21:29 | safetydan | anyway, that should tell SDL to ask for a smaller audio buffer |
| 20:21:35 | amiconn | I will have to fiddle with sound.c anyway, on amd64 there's two places with incompatible pointer type warnings |
| 20:23:10 | amiconn | Same effect with fmt.sampes = 512; |
| 20:23:23 | safetydan | okay |
| 20:23:42 | safetydan | My only other guess is that we need a better mapping of Rockbox threads on to SDL threads. |
| 20:23:47 | safetydan | Particularly yield() |
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| 20:25:25 | egotrippen | safetydan: looks like deleting the file fixed it |
| 20:25:52 | SuperSnout | amiconn: worked =) thanks |
| 20:25:53 | egotrippen | thanks |
| 20:25:58 | BHSPitLappy | has rockboy been worked on lately? |
| 20:26:10 | safetydan | egotrippen, possibly the file got corrupted somewhere along the line |
| 20:26:28 | safetydan | BHSPitLappy, if you haven't seen any CVS commit messages then probably not |
| 20:26:36 | egotrippen | mm. it's an easy enough fix. thanks for the tip |
| 20:26:42 | egotrippen | it'd been happening on and off for awhile |
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| 20:35:16 | amiconn | safetydan: Maybe the problem is that the sdl sim playback code can't deal with the pcm buffer running empty? |
| 20:36:16 | amiconn | Hmm, the problem happens in pcmbuf_callback(), which is core code... |
| 20:36:47 | safetydan | I did write the sim sound code to try and deal with that problem. |
| 20:36:58 | safetydan | Though it could probably do things better |
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| 20:43:29 | * | preglow sees further ways of optimising the fiq handler... |
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| 20:49:52 | amiconn | safetydan: Could be interesting to test whether pcmbuf_callback() does the same NULL pointer access when running out of data, |
| 20:50:02 | amiconn | i.e. when the codec can't keep up |
| 20:50:18 | safetydan | Wouldn't someone with an iPod discovered that by now? |
| 20:50:28 | amiconn | How? |
| 20:50:43 | amiconn | Rockbox has no memory protection |
| 20:50:43 | safetydan | I thought there were issues with some codecs keeping up with realtime |
| 20:50:45 | safetydan | ah |
| 20:50:47 | safetydan | true |
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| 20:51:01 | safetydan | But has anyone reported freezing on high bitrate files? |
| 20:51:14 | preglow | it doesn't freeze |
| 20:51:17 | preglow | not on ipod, at least |
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| 20:52:24 | amiconn | ..but on iriver (and archos) I've implemented a 'memory guard' feature http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UseMemoryGuard |
| 20:52:48 | amiconn | The page talks about archos only, I should update it... |
| 20:53:15 | amiconn | So, if we had an .aac test file, the test could be done... |
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| 20:54:24 | amiconn | Another option would be to disable cpu boost |
| 20:54:39 | preglow | amiconn: did you get cross compilers working on your amd64 box with no hassle? |
| 20:54:56 | amiconn | preglow: sh and arm: yes, m68k: no go |
| 20:55:05 | preglow | amiconn: same problem i had, then... |
| 20:55:18 | preglow | m68k was the only thing i used at that time |
| 20:55:24 | amiconn | I tried 3.3.6, 3.4.5, 4.0.2 and 4.1.0 |
| 20:55:31 | preglow | yeah, i tried bunches too |
| 20:55:34 | preglow | goddamned annoying |
| 20:55:36 | amiconn | Same bug in all of them, at the same place |
| 20:55:42 | preglow | have you reported it? |
| 20:55:47 | amiconn | Even rewriting that function didn't help |
| 20:55:50 | amiconn | Not yet |
| 20:56:15 | amiconn | Yesterday I tried crosscompiling the crosscompiler |
| 20:56:49 | amiconn | ..but couldn't do that because that requires to build an x86_64 crosscompiler on i686 first, which failed as well |
| 20:57:16 | preglow | hahaha |
| 20:57:19 | preglow | marvelous |
| 20:57:33 | amiconn | Totally different bug though |
| 20:57:40 | HCl | why can't you just use an 32bit compiled crosscompiler? |
| 20:57:42 | HCl | shouldn't it work fine? |
| 20:58:50 | preglow | perhaps |
| 20:58:55 | preglow | but ok, time to start the linux installer fun |
| 20:59:02 | preglow | brb |
| 20:59:38 | Mikachu | HCl: you need a complete 32bit library install then |
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| 20:59:55 | HCl | Mikachu: ah... |
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| 21:00:07 | leftright | Slasheri you around ? |
| 21:00:11 | HCl | static 32bit compiled crosscompiler? o-o |
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| 21:02:46 | safetydan | hrmm... my clipboard code adds 2k to onplay.o |
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| 21:04:45 | leftright | Slasheri; dir cache doesn't enable if its set to 'on' in a config file, one has to go to the dir cache menu and re-enable it again |
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| 21:05:45 | leftright | Slasheri Lostlogic, I get the occasional pop when skipping tracks and when selecting play from pause. |
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| 21:08:43 | amiconn | safetydan: The .o size increase isn't important; what's important is the increase in final binary size |
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| 21:10:04 | safetydan | binary increased about the same amount |
| 21:10:07 | safetydan | for h120 at least |
| 21:10:18 | amiconn | oh :( |
| 21:10:38 | safetydan | 1220 bytes precisely |
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| 21:18:27 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you see my changes to enable the C version of the FIQ handler for the ipod 3g? Audio on the 3g isn't working (there are no fiqs being fired), so if you spot anything odd, please let me know. |
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| 21:20:33 | SereR0kR | if I got a fat32 formatted iPod, can i install RockBox from a mac without Virtual PC? |
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| 21:28:35 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4760 |
| 21:29:40 | Mikachu | Paprica: #defint PREV_MONTH BUTTON_SCROLL_BACK |
| 21:29:50 | Mikachu | just noticed that line wasn't hilighted in vim |
| 21:29:57 | Paprica | shit |
| 21:30:00 | Paprica | haha |
| 21:30:00 | Paprica | =] |
| 21:32:45 | Paprica | fixed |
| 21:33:12 | Mikachu | does it work on nano? |
| 21:33:24 | Paprica | not yet |
| 21:33:26 | Mikachu | kay |
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| 21:36:28 | safetydan | Well I got the cut/copy/paste code to be 16 bytes smaller. But I can't see anything else I can easily remove to make it smaller. If anything it will get larger if I add a progress indicator |
| 21:37:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maybe it would be best if it was a "file manager"' kinda plugin then? |
| 21:39:11 | safetydan | It depends on whether 1200 bytes is significant enough to warrant moving out of the core. |
| 21:39:57 | safetydan | But yeah, norton commander style plugin would be cool |
| 21:42:07 | amiconn | Is this already including directory copy/move ? |
| 21:42:26 | safetydan | yes |
| 21:42:36 | amiconn | ..and how much does it add for archos (where size matters most) |
| 21:42:45 | safetydan | don't have an sh1 tool chain locally |
| 21:42:50 | safetydan | I should probably do that |
| 21:42:59 | * | amiconn has all 3 toolchains |
| 21:43:15 | Mikachu | i accidentally installed an sh toolchain when i didn't look at the instructions too carefully |
| 21:43:39 | amiconn | safetydan: Is the patch on the tracker? |
| 21:44:08 | safetydan | amiconn, yes http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3033 |
| 21:44:16 | safetydan | the version 5 down the bottom |
| 21:44:28 | safetydan | doesn't include some minor size changes I've made recently though |
| 21:44:49 | Paprica | blah, why cant i delete my files from the traker? |
| 21:45:54 | safetydan | Is gcc 3.4.5 okay for SH1? The crosscompiler page seems to say 3.3.x is better |
| 21:47:40 | amiconn | Stick with 3.3.x |
| 21:47:48 | amiconn | 3.4.x will generate larger binaries |
| 21:48:30 | amiconn | +1444 bytes for archos recorder |
| 21:48:42 | amiconn | (added by your patch) |
| 21:49:28 | safetydan | So, is that too large? |
| 21:50:12 | Mikachu | isn't the splash image bigger? |
| 21:51:15 | amiconn | no |
| 21:51:27 | amiconn | Not on archos |
| 21:54:12 | amiconn | clipboard_(clip|cut|copy) don't need a return value 'cause it's always true anyway |
| 21:54:33 | amiconn | clipboard_cut and clipboard_copy could be inline or macros |
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| 21:55:41 | safetydan | clipboard_cut/copy are called by the menu system so I think they have to return bool and not be macros |
| 21:56:14 | amiconn | ah ok, sorry |
| 21:58:30 | amiconn | Hmm, I'm undecided on this |
| 21:59:11 | amiconn | On one hand, I consider this a very nice feature, but otoh it adds quite some code |
| 21:59:52 | amiconn | I got an idea though how we could perhaps save some code, not only in your patch but everywhere were menus are built dynamically |
| 21:59:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I personally am of the opinion it should be in a plugin for a few more reasons now that I think about it. |
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| 22:00:16 | amiconn | s/were/where |
| 22:00:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems to me, just from my personal perspective, that through normal use a music player's software shouldn't modify any files that it doesn't create (database, etc.) |
| 22:01:17 | amiconn | Hmm |
| 22:01:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | And that any functions with the potential to do that should require pretty explicit actions on the hand of the user (entering a plugin or changing a setting to enable it that doesn't save across reboots, or something similar) |
| 22:01:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, that's just my personal view on the matter. |
| 22:02:02 | amiconn | The file/folder delete function would then be another candidate |
| 22:02:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Indeed |
| 22:02:28 | amiconn | Otoh plugins (still) have the disadvantage that they aren't localisable |
| 22:02:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaaah |
| 22:02:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | That is a problem then. |
| 22:03:13 | safetydan | I agree that this could work better as plugin. It's certainly not as "friendly" though. |
| 22:03:27 | amiconn | The question is how it would work as a plugin |
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| 22:04:25 | amiconn | Oh, and there are more file management functions which should be moved into a plugin if we decide to make file management a plugin |
| 22:04:40 | amiconn | There's also 'rename' and 'create folder' |
| 22:07:00 | safetydan | This is why I haven't comitted things yet :) |
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| 22:10:58 | amiconn | safetydan: You can save some code for most devices: The check for EXDEV and retry as copy is only necessary for #ifdef HAVE_MULTIVOLUME |
| 22:11:44 | amiconn | The only devices where code size won't be reduced right now are the Ondios, but for these code size is less critical. |
| 22:12:59 | safetydan | that's easy enough to do |
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| 22:15:42 | safetydan | well that saves another 100 bytes on h120 |
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| 22:16:52 | safetydan | weird, gcc-3.3.6 won't compile |
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| 22:20:03 | * | Bagder downloads 78MB Cowon A2 firmware source code |
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| 22:20:52 | Paprica | lol |
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| 22:21:55 | Bagder | at least it makes our source package seem small |
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| 22:26:10 | safetydan | not that it matters, but 1664 bytes on arm (iPod Nano) |
| 22:26:41 | * | Paul_The_Nerd does the "our code is the biggest" dance. |
| 22:26:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or something. |
| 22:26:54 | * | Mikachu gives a 5.2 |
| 22:27:17 | * | Bagder instructs Paul_The_Nerd on how to put his feet when doing that dance |
| 22:28:26 | Bagder | 78MB is a lot of source |
| 22:28:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll remember that for next time. |
| 22:28:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is that 78mb including images and other non-text files? |
| 22:28:48 | Bagder | I don't know yet, their site is quite slow |
| 22:28:56 | Bagder | but I guess it is |
| 22:29:27 | Bagder | http://eng.iaudio.com/download/gnu/cowon_pmp_a2_src_1.59_GPL.tar.gz |
| 22:29:37 | Bagder | in case anyone would be interested |
| 22:30:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | I fear it. |
| 22:30:35 | Bagder | "ingenient-bsp" |
| 22:30:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just know they've run some sort of quick script over it to strip out all comments and rename variables to random character strings, just to be spiteful. |
| 22:30:42 | Bagder | you can tell what they based their hw on |
| 22:31:18 | Bagder | linux 2.6.5 kernel |
| 22:31:35 | Bagder | libFLAC |
| 22:33:31 | Bagder | plenty korean comments ;-) |
| 22:33:42 | Bagder | //ÇöÀç ?ÂÆÃµÈ ÆÄÀÏÀÇ ¹Ìµð?î Àç»ýÀ» ?ÃÀÛÇÏ? ÇÔ?ö.. |
| 22:34:20 | Mikachu | that looks like it just might be in the wrong charset :) |
| 22:34:31 | Bagder | yes it is of course |
| 22:34:41 | Bagder | and I bet my irc client config screws it up even more |
| 22:35:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 22:36:16 | Bagder | and if you thought libFLAC uses long source lines, you should see these ;-) |
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| 22:36:29 | Bagder | 300 columns |
| 22:36:40 | safetydan | woah |
| 22:36:46 | Mikachu | *cough*brickmania*cough* |
| 22:36:52 | safetydan | I don't even see lines that long in my Java day job |
| 22:37:13 | Bagder | brickmania should be code policed |
| 22:37:38 | Paprica | =\ |
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| 22:38:25 | Bagder | Paprica: 80 columns, not 180 ;-) |
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| 22:43:47 | Bagder | The A2 has the same CPU as the new Neuros models are gonna use |
| 22:44:02 | Bagder | DM320 |
| 22:44:23 | pre2k_ | cd .. |
| 22:44:30 | Mikachu | no such directory |
| 22:44:34 | Bagder | rm -rf / |
| 22:45:12 | pre2k_ | uhmm, there's rockbox in there... |
| 22:45:27 | safetydan | mke2fs /dev/hda |
| 22:46:17 | mirak | safetydan: cat /dev/zero /dev/hda |
| 22:46:21 | Mikachu | > |
| 22:46:28 | mirak | safetydan: cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda |
| 22:46:53 | mirak | I am not sure this works |
| 22:46:59 | mirak | safetydan: cat /dev/random > /dev/hda |
| 22:47:01 | mirak | this one works |
| 22:48:20 | Mikachu | you probably want urandom |
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| 22:59:06 | preglow | linuxstb: so we can use the same fiq handler for both pp chips? |
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| 23:06:53 | preglow | god, its been so long since i had trouble making my norwegian keyboard work properly in linux, id forgotten just how much fun it can be |
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| 23:15:50 | linuxstb | preglow: With some minor changes, we should be able to, yes. |
| 23:16:11 | linuxstb | But we need to get the C version working first... |
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| 23:18:10 | preglow | heh |
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| 23:19:08 | JdGordon | morning all |
| 23:19:09 | preglow | i can exploit the fact that all register addresses are a base address plus some offset to free a bunch of registers, plus init a couple of registers in fiq mode in crt0.S, so should be able to shave off more cycles at least |
| 23:19:17 | preglow | now if only i got my keyboard working.... |
| 23:19:59 | Mikachu | setxkbmap no should be enough i think |
| 23:20:28 | preglow | id prefer to do it from gnome, so all parts of ubuntu remembers what i just did |
| 23:20:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:20:40 | preglow | its never bloody been a problem before, but now... |
| 23:20:55 | preglow | what the hell |
| 23:20:58 | preglow | that command alone just worked |
| 23:21:03 | preglow | what happened just now :> |
| 23:21:08 | preglow | æ'æåææøåå |
| 23:23:33 | preglow | i didn't even give it a parameter, i just typed setxkbmap |
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| 23:38:11 | stripwax | ello |
| 23:38:40 | preglow | hi |
| 23:38:43 | preglow | wassup |
| 23:39:14 | stripwax | just hanging out. still trying to get ddd to play nicely. is it just me or can I not set a breakpoint on an arbirary line of code? |
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| 23:39:34 | stripwax | (still part-time debugging this f**king auto-change-directory-not-working bug) |
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| 23:43:54 | preglow | ddd? |
| 23:44:15 | amiconn | linuxstb: Is there a reason why rockbox' inttypes.h uses #define and not typedef? |
| 23:44:31 | stripwax | ddd is a gui for gdb. only it's even slower and not much friendlier |
| 23:44:50 | preglow | you can set a breakpoint on a line of code, yes |
| 23:45:05 | preglow | don't remember how, though |
| 23:45:17 | stripwax | yep, in gdb I can. how do I do that in ddd? maybe I'm just using it wrong |
| 23:45:19 | preglow | amiconn: because the rockbox rules say we don't use typedef? :> |
| 23:47:31 | linuxstb | amiconn: What preglow said. ;) |
| 23:49:15 | Paprica | mmm what do you think on open a sub forum for plugins? |
| 23:49:35 | LinusN | preglow: that rule is there to protect against unnecessary typedefing of structs etc |
| 23:49:53 | preglow | LinusN: yes, i know |
| 23:49:59 | LinusN | inttypes is a valid use imho |
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| 23:51:34 | JdGordon | *couph* any1 want to look at the finishd search in play list patch? |
| 23:51:43 | JdGordon | .. if you have nothing else to do... |
| 23:52:05 | preglow | will i be shot, killed or maimed if i start assuming variable order in assembler code? |
| 23:52:30 | LinusN | nah, we'd just drag you out in the forest and beat you up |
| 23:53:04 | preglow | 'cuz i've got two variables that are declared in order here, and i want to free a register... |
| 23:53:16 | ashridah | * preglow moves to the desert |
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| 23:54:06 | * | preglow has embarked on the holy quest of the blazingly speedy fiq handler |
| 23:56:36 | LinusN | preglow: put a comment where the variables are declared, explaining the situation |
| 23:56:51 | Mikachu | preferably not in korean |
| 23:57:00 | preglow | would be nice, and i can't imagine why gcc would reorder them |
| 23:57:05 | LinusN | swedish or norwegian :-) |
| 23:57:06 | preglow | Mikachu: but that's the only language i know... |
| 23:57:13 | LinusN | bork! bork! |
| 23:57:19 | Mikachu | hehe |
| 23:58:18 | muesli__ | LinusN got assimilated? ;) |
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