| 00:00:06 | linuxstb | ^apps/plugins/bitmaps/mono/ |
| 00:00:11 | drspoon | i'll give it a go |
| 00:00:53 | petur | amiconn: peakmeter wasn't available for sw codec targets, and I just fixed the places where this was forgotten. anything wrong with that? |
| 00:01:28 | petur | somebody complained about this (guess what: can't remember who/where) |
| 00:02:07 | amiconn | Imho the proper fix would be to implement the peakmeter |
| 00:02:17 | petur | I know |
| 00:02:41 | amiconn | That's why I wouldn't have disabled it, this way it would stay in sight and remind devs that there is something missing... |
| 00:03:18 | petur | but it was ugly: it was flashing on the screen... |
| 00:03:24 | amiconn | ? |
| 00:03:52 | amiconn | For me it wasn't flashing, it was just displayed without the moving bars |
| 00:05:10 | petur | well, it was wrong the way it was written and I just quick fixed to clean the display. sorry about that. |
| 00:07:09 | petur | and I'd rather have the peakmeters as an option. I don't care about them if I'm just listening and not going to record -> wastes battery |
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| 00:08:31 | petur | got to go... goodnight |
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| 00:16:48 | linuxstb | (again...) |
| 00:17:08 | Aditya | Specified value has invalid Control characters. ..getting that when trying to send headers |
| 00:17:19 | Aditya | anyone know any common invalid chars for header strings? |
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| 00:28:29 | drspoon | hah |
| 00:28:36 | drspoon | i solved the bitmap problem |
| 00:29:08 | drspoon | i needed to do 'make clean' to clean out my libbitmapsnative.a (or something) |
| 00:29:16 | drspoon | and rebuild |
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| 00:30:54 | Paprica | 00.16.28 # * linuxstb does the pacman dance |
| 00:30:58 | Paprica | mame again? |
| 00:31:15 | linuxstb | Nope - a completely different pacman emulator. |
| 00:31:25 | Paprica | ipod video only? |
| 00:31:28 | linuxstb | This one's GPL'd. |
| 00:31:36 | linuxstb | At the moment, yes. |
| 00:31:44 | Paprica | ok |
| 00:31:47 | linuxstb | But it's only been working for 15 minutes... |
| 00:31:56 | Paprica | haha |
| 00:32:35 | Paprica | you will port it to the other targets? |
| 00:32:38 | merbanan | how was it, how many bits have the coldfire and arm for mul operations ? |
| 00:34:13 | linuxstb | I don't know about the coldfire, but the arm has a 32x32->64 multiply, and a 32x32-64 multiply and accumulate. |
| 00:35:39 | linuxstb | Paprica: Yes - I plan to make it work on as many targets as I can. The problem is scaling the graphics to the different LCD sizes. |
| 00:36:34 | Paprica | yep |
| 00:36:44 | Paprica | the ipod video version is ready to use? |
| 00:39:41 | linuxstb | It works, but it's far from finished. |
| 00:40:51 | Paprica | could you send me the source? |
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| 00:45:34 | drspoon | cheers for the help guys - goodnight |
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| 00:48:00 | linuxstb | Paprica: Sorry, not yet. I would prefer to finish the port first - the code is still in a mess (it hasn't recovered from being dragged from C++ into C yet). |
| 00:48:35 | Paprica | ok, when it's ready, just tell me =] |
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| 02:27:54 | Zoide777 | hmm... any news on anything? |
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| 02:29:47 | Aditya | Paul turned gay though |
| 02:29:49 | Aditya | I guess thats news |
| 02:30:01 | Zoide777 | haha |
| 02:31:28 | Zoide777 | well, i meant new as in maybe nothing's been committed to cvs this afternoon but maybe someone was close to finishing /fixing some feature, etc.. |
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| 08:21:08 | midkay_ | anyone here know why rb->backlight_set_timeout(false); in a plugin won't disable the backlight? |
| 08:21:27 | midkay_ | it really should - it used to work. it recently stopped. i'm calling it just like before, but it just doesn't seem to work right anymore.. |
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| 08:37:50 | amiconn | midkay_: It doesn't work because the parameter is (1) not a bool but an int which is (2) not a plain timeout value, but an index into a table of timeout values. |
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| 08:38:08 | midkay_ | amiconn, was that changed lately? |
| 08:38:19 | amiconn | no |
| 08:38:37 | midkay_ | i wonder why it worked for the old clock, then.. |
| 08:39:08 | midkay_ | ah. right. i did indeed pass a bool to it.. |
| 08:39:22 | amiconn | rb->backlight_set_timeout(0) sets it to 'always off', 1 sets it to 'always on', etc |
| 08:39:42 | midkay_ | what would '2' set it to? nothing specifically? |
| 08:40:13 | amiconn | These are the values available from the settings menu as well |
| 08:40:44 | midkay_ | '2' == 2 seconds? |
| 08:40:53 | Mikachu | you'd have to look in the table |
| 08:41:10 | midkay_ | Mikachu, got it, thanks |
| 08:41:28 | midkay_ | i'll try that, but i don't think it will work - i recall trying it earlier, but i'll give it another shot |
| 08:41:43 | amiconn | Off, On, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 45, 60, 90 |
| 08:42:11 | midkay_ | amiconn, ah - thank you. :) |
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| 08:46:52 | midkay_ | amiconn, it's not working.. |
| 08:49:02 | midkay_ | amiconn, i have discovered why - setting backlight to "off" on my ipod from the settings menu doesn't even turn it off, it's like setting it to on, no timeout. |
| 08:49:10 | midkay_ | something must have happened recently.. |
| 08:49:17 | midkay_ | timeouts work, just not "off". |
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| 08:49:50 | amiconn | Works here, both on archos and iriver |
| 08:50:02 | amiconn | So it's something in the ipod backlight implementation |
| 08:50:04 | midkay_ | ipods suck. :( |
| 08:50:24 | midkay_ | waaa. :( i'm going to toss it out the window. :( |
| 08:51:02 | BHSPitLappy | and I'm gonna catch it. |
| 08:51:13 | midkay_ | i changed my mind, for unknown reasons. |
| 08:51:15 | BHSPitLappy | anyone wanna buy a 4GB nano, by the way? :P |
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| 08:51:34 | midkay_ | me! |
| 08:51:49 | BHSPitLappy | ( for $200 ) |
| 08:51:51 | midkay_ | i'll give you.. a thousand pennies. |
| 08:52:01 | midkay_ | that's way more than you just asked. |
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| 08:52:03 | midkay_ | look at that huge number. |
| 08:52:06 | midkay_ | 1000. |
| 08:52:23 | BHSPitLappy | make it twenty thousand. |
| 08:52:42 | midkay_ | wtf? that's way too overpriced! |
| 08:52:48 | midkay_ | i'll make it 5000. final offer! |
| 08:52:59 | BHSPitLappy | ok, then make it two. |
| 08:53:08 | BHSPitLappy | two $100 bills. |
| 08:53:30 | midkay_ | oh, so small numbers attract you? how's ONE penny sound?! |
| 08:54:20 | BHSPitLappy | woah, once again I remember why I once had you on my ignore list |
| 08:54:42 | BHSPitLappy | the real question is, why did I ever remove you? |
| 08:55:10 | Mikachu | the real question is, if it annoys you, why did you play along? |
| 08:55:13 | midkay_ | BHSPitLappy, um - hello? - why do you always mention that? just re-add me once and for all, if you really think it's worth not-making-sense in some conversations where people look like they're talking to nobody.. |
| 08:55:38 | BHSPitLappy | ah, that was the reason |
| 08:55:39 | midkay_ | BHSPitLappy, that's like the fourth time you've told me you regret removing me - just re-add me and stop talking, if you really do regret it.. |
| 08:56:03 | BHSPitLappy | Mikachu: because I come to my senses too late :/ |
| 08:56:14 | midkay_ | BHSPitLappy, yes, um, 4 minutes too late? |
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| 09:36:01 | safetydan | preglow, just a note that some people are saying that the peak filters don't cut/boost as much as the gain value would suggest. Particularly at low frequencies. |
| 09:41:21 | linuxstb | morning all. |
| 09:41:35 | Mikachu | good morning |
| 09:42:48 | safetydan | morning |
| 09:46:29 | midkay_ | have we got an lcd_getpixel? |
| 09:47:08 | linuxstb | No |
| 09:47:23 | midkay_ | any methods/anything similar? |
| 09:48:36 | linuxstb | You can access the lcd framebuffer directly, but if you _really_ need lcd_getpixel, then you should probably add it. What do you need to do? |
| 09:50:08 | midkay_ | working on a plugin - just return a 1 if the current pixel is drawn (foreground color) |
| 09:51:51 | linuxstb | Yes, but why do you need to do that? What does your plugin do? |
| 09:52:11 | midkay_ | it's for bitmap collision detection (space invaders!) :) |
| 09:53:52 | safetydan | Is the bus fast enough to read from without issue? Maybe drawing off screen first and blitting afterwards might be faster. Then you can do collision detection on the offscreen bitmap |
| 09:54:57 | linuxstb | The "offscreen bitmap" is just the lcd_framebuffer[] array. There shouldn't be any need to create another copy of what's on the screen. |
| 09:55:23 | linuxstb | But instead of comparing pixels, you could store the positions of the sprites, and compare the sprite positions. |
| 09:55:56 | linuxstb | I'm assuming what you really want is sprite collision. |
| 09:56:01 | safetydan | Ah, so the drawing code just writes to that and it gets copied to the LCD every lcd_update()? |
| 09:56:07 | linuxstb | Exactly. |
| 09:56:09 | midkay_ | linuxstb, but then it's really inaccurate - if a sprite is 10x10 and it only consists of a pixel in the middle, then you end up killing that sprite way before the bullet actually hits it. |
| 09:56:28 | linuxstb | No, if a sprite only consists of a pixel in the middle, then it should be a 1x1 sprite. |
| 09:57:01 | midkay_ | linuxstb, sigh.. say it's 20x10.. |
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| 09:57:11 | midkay_ | with a line that goes upper left to lower center to upper right |
| 09:57:19 | linuxstb | I don't understand: You make the sprite the size and shape of the actual contents. |
| 09:57:22 | midkay_ | then if you hit it at the far left it disappears before it's hit.. |
| 09:57:33 | midkay_ | yet you can't resize it - all 20x10 is being used. |
| 09:58:01 | SereR0kR | will you add mac support for Rockbox? anytime? ^^ |
| 09:58:29 | linuxstb | SereR0kR: Rockbox doesn't depend on any operating system. What's your problem using Rockbox with a Mac? |
| 09:58:40 | SereR0kR | my iPod is mac formatted |
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| 09:59:15 | linuxstb | midkay_: OK, I understand that if the sprite is an odd shaped, then you'll have problems. If you think that checking the contents of the framebuffer is the best way, then I would suggest adding a get_pixel function. |
| 09:59:31 | linuxstb | Or just using the rb->lcd_framebuffer[] array directly. |
| 09:59:31 | SereR0kR | I don't want to/can't use virtual PC, it's too slow |
| 09:59:40 | linuxstb | SereR0kR: You don't need to use virtual PC. |
| 09:59:47 | didj | what the hell :p |
| 09:59:49 | SereR0kR | O.o? |
| 09:59:56 | SereR0kR | why? |
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| 10:00:09 | linuxstb | Why do you say you do? |
| 10:00:22 | SereR0kR | i don't do |
| 10:00:29 | SereR0kR | i don't want to use it ;> |
| 10:00:41 | SereR0kR | and i can't use it, it's too slow |
| 10:00:43 | linuxstb | No-one has ever told you you have to use virtual PC. |
| 10:00:56 | SereR0kR | what can i use? |
| 10:01:00 | linuxstb | Mac OS. |
| 10:01:08 | SereR0kR | how? O.o |
| 10:01:10 | didj | what do you need a diff OS for? |
| 10:01:14 | linuxstb | Have you read the installation instructions? |
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| 10:01:26 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
| 10:01:34 | SereR0kR | thx |
| 10:01:55 | linuxstb | But you do have to convert your ipod to FAT32. |
| 10:02:03 | SereR0kR | that's no problem =D |
| 10:02:12 | SereR0kR | does rockbox work good on 5G yet? |
| 10:02:13 | linuxstb | Supporting the HFS filesystem in Rockbox is a major undertaking - it's not a small job. |
| 10:02:31 | SereR0kR | yep |
| 10:02:34 | linuxstb | It's as good as all the other iPod ports. |
| 10:03:18 | SereR0kR | ok ;> |
| 10:03:44 | linuxstb | But it's easily uninstalled if you don't like it. |
| 10:05:20 | SereR0kR | yep |
| 10:05:55 | SereR0kR | I need to unmount my iPod first -.- |
| 10:05:56 | SereR0kR | ^^ |
| 10:08:00 | midkay_ | linuxstb, sorry to impose - how can i read the lcd framebuffer for a certain pixel? |
| 10:08:16 | linuxstb | That depends on the depth of the LCD. |
| 10:08:22 | linuxstb | And the format... |
| 10:08:33 | didj | whats the main reason for keeping the config in a sector vs flat file? (ata/fat not available early enough?) |
| 10:08:51 | linuxstb | For a colour display, it's pixel=rb->lcd_framebuffer[y*LCD_WIDTH+x]; |
| 10:09:23 | midkay_ | linuxstb, any color display? ipod, iriver, iaudio? |
| 10:09:28 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 10:10:16 | linuxstb | For the 2bit-per-pixel displays, there are two formats - 4 vertical pixels packed into a byte (iriver H1x0), or 4 horizontal pixels packed into a byte (greyscale ipods). |
| 10:10:39 | linuxstb | For the 1bit-per-pixel displays, it is 8 vertical pixels packed into one byte. |
| 10:10:44 | safetydan | midkay_, the sim drawing code has a getpixel you might be able to use |
| 10:11:10 | SereR0kR | how long should this: "newfs_msdos -F32 -v iPod /dev/rdisk2s2" take? |
| 10:11:19 | safetydan | under /uisimulator/sdl/lcd-bitmap.c |
| 10:11:20 | midkay_ | what about a mono display? |
| 10:11:44 | linuxstb | SereR0kR: I've no idea - I've never done that process. But it wouldn't surprise me if it took a few minutes. |
| 10:11:50 | safetydan | for mono it would be "return ((lcd_framebuffer[y/8][x] >> (y & 7)) & 1);" |
| 10:11:52 | SereR0kR | ok |
| 10:11:53 | SereR0kR | ;> |
| 10:12:14 | linuxstb | SereR0kR: Can you see the disk icon spinning in the top-left corner of your iPod's screen? |
| 10:12:43 | midkay_ | safetydan, i did a search in my rockbox dir and found a couple results, but i saw they were all sim-related and didn't really investigate - nothing looked very relevant |
| 10:12:46 | midkay_ | linuxstb, sounds complicated - maybe i'll stick with the color models for now. ;) |
| 10:12:54 | SereR0kR | i see something spinning there =D |
| 10:13:11 | safetydan | midkay_, http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/uisimulator/sdl/lcd-bitmap.c?rev=1.3&view=markup |
| 10:13:17 | safetydan | look for the lcd_get_pixel function |
| 10:13:17 | linuxstb | midkay_: If you just implement it as a function, then you can complete the function for other kinds of display later. |
| 10:13:41 | linuxstb | ... or just copy safetydan's function. |
| 10:13:45 | midkay_ | linuxstb, i was thinking along the lines of that.. |
| 10:14:37 | midkay_ | safetydan, excellent - just what i need :) |
| 10:14:54 | midkay_ | i'm wondering why this isn't in the lcd code along with update and the like? :) |
| 10:15:12 | linuxstb | I would guess because no-one has needed a get_pixel function. |
| 10:15:48 | midkay_ | linuxstb, haha - i see :) alright - no big deal to slip it in the plugin code - thanks! and safetydan. :) |
| 10:15:52 | didj | does the 'USB bootleader' v5 (H340) actually work? |
| 10:16:08 | didj | it comes up with the msg, but doesnt detect disk? |
| 10:16:17 | didj | usb mode from rockbox itself works fine |
| 10:17:29 | SereR0kR | damn i can't execute ipod_fw |
| 10:17:54 | SereR0kR | "permission denied", also as root |
| 10:18:14 | didj | "chmod 755 ipod_fw" ? |
| 10:18:40 | SereR0kR | ok thx ;> |
| 10:18:52 | earHertz | linuxstb: have you notice dthat the ipod playback will pause if you turn thre scroll wheel too quickly? |
| 10:20:03 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 10:20:04 | midkay_ | linuxstb, that reminds me - not sure if it's known, it probably is, but - bass/treble doesn't work as it should on ipod, it only seems to boost the volume a bit |
| 10:20:15 | linuxstb | midkay_: It's not implemented on the 5g |
| 10:20:32 | midkay_ | linuxstb, gotcha, makes sense, just a heads up :) |
| 10:20:34 | earHertz | But oddly, it does not pause in teh wpss, not matter how quickly teh scroll wheel is turned |
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| 10:21:25 | Mikachu | it's probably drawing the menu that causes the music to skip, not the actual scrolling |
| 10:22:03 | SereR0kR | mini:~/Desktop ch$ ./ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin |
| 10:22:04 | SereR0kR | Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video |
| 10:22:04 | SereR0kR | Cannot open firmware image file apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin |
| 10:22:15 | SereR0kR | o.o? |
| 10:22:24 | Mikachu | and did you create that file? |
| 10:22:42 | SereR0kR | rockboot.bin? |
| 10:23:02 | Mikachu | maybe i'm referring to the one _in the error message_ |
| 10:23:10 | SereR0kR | no |
| 10:23:24 | SereR0kR | i formatted my iPod from HFS to FAT32 |
| 10:23:34 | SereR0kR | and it said i should continue on step 1 e) |
| 10:23:52 | Mikachu | look at step d2) |
| 10:23:59 | SereR0kR | yep |
| 10:24:00 | SereR0kR | ./ipod_fw -o apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin -e 1 bootpartition.bin ;> |
| 10:24:30 | linuxstb | Does anyone have any suggestions why this code isn't working as it should? http://pastebin.com/583213 |
| 10:24:48 | SereR0kR | is bootpartition.bin the Firmware File? in my case Firmware-13.6.1 |
| 10:25:47 | Mikachu | it turns the machine off when you let go of select? |
| 10:25:59 | linuxstb | It's the main loop for my pacman emulator - I am trying to fix it to display exactly 20fps, but my while() loop which should slow it down doesn't seem to be - it's running at about 150% realtime (displaying 32.66fps). |
| 10:26:06 | linuxstb | SereR0kR: Yes. |
| 10:26:09 | SereR0kR | ok |
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| 10:27:13 | Mikachu | linuxstb: rounding errors on line 51 maybe? |
| 10:27:30 | earHertz | linuxstb: where is start_time initialized? |
| 10:27:48 | linuxstb | In the plugin_start function - it's just set to *rb->current_tick; |
| 10:28:28 | SereR0kR | ok works n1 ;> |
| 10:29:34 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I can't see how. |
| 10:29:41 | earHertz | linuxstb: put some code in the while loop to display current_tick and end_time |
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| 10:35:30 | SereR0kR | how can i copy a directory on os x terminal |
| 10:35:38 | Mikachu | yeah probably not it |
| 10:36:45 | didj | 'cp -r dir1 dir2' i guess |
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| 10:38:11 | linuxstb | SereR0kR: If you are unzipping the rockbox.zip, you can simply type "unzip rockbox.zip -d /Volumes/IPOD/" |
| 10:38:21 | linuxstb | (or wherever Mac OS has mounted your ipod) |
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| 10:39:51 | SereR0kR | ok |
| 10:39:53 | SereR0kR | got it |
| 10:39:56 | SereR0kR | another questions |
| 10:39:59 | SereR0kR | question* |
| 10:40:08 | SereR0kR | are there other skins for this music player? |
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| 10:41:58 | JdGordon | eveinng all |
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| 10:44:35 | midkay_ | hey JdGordon - i quickly tried to add a check into the color picker that wouldn't allow you to set the same foreground/background color, since we've already had a few people come in asking about how to reset it.. i had no success, but you know the code much better - maybe you can do that :) |
| 10:44:52 | SereR0kR | does sound work on Rockboy? |
| 10:44:53 | SereR0kR | ^^ |
| 10:45:00 | midkay_ | SereR0kR, yes |
| 10:45:27 | JdGordon | midkay_: ok, if its really wanted, i can submit a patch |
| 10:45:32 | JdGordon | ppl shouldnt be that stupid tho :p |
| 10:45:43 | midkay_ | JdGordon, i dunno about really wanted - should have seen this guy in here the other day though :) |
| 10:46:21 | midkay_ | JdGordon, it'd be a nice check, though, i think - just to idiotproof it (or maybe in a more indirect way: 'curious-proof it') :) |
| 10:47:22 | JdGordon | i dont know how the yes/no screen code works... |
| 10:47:30 | midkay_ | i think i've already seen two people in here asking about it, and that's when i was around - i just wonder how many more we'll continue to get.. |
| 10:48:01 | JdGordon | oh, ye, woops... linuxstb changed the code to make that pretty hard to implement |
| 10:48:09 | midkay_ | we don't need one.. just say, when they press the "accept" button, check the current color against the opposite one (bg if fg, or fg if bg).. if it's the same, just splash "Invalid selection" for a second or two, and let them change it (don't exit).. |
| 10:48:19 | JdGordon | ok, not really.. but a bit more wwork |
| 10:48:40 | * | JdGordon loads up the file |
| 10:48:58 | midkay_ | JdGordon, i'd personally prefer a "Why would you want to go and do that, moron?" splash, but.. i think it's kinda against-the-rules. :( |
| 10:49:29 | JdGordon | :) i like that idea |
| 10:49:43 | SereR0kR | where can i get "cool" skins for iPod 5G? ;D |
| 10:50:05 | JdGordon | cool??? rb isnt cool enough for u??? |
| 10:50:07 | JdGordon | tisk tisk |
| 10:50:18 | SereR0kR | it's cool |
| 10:50:22 | SereR0kR | but i need better skins ;> |
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| 10:50:31 | midkay_ | haha. |
| 10:50:38 | SereR0kR | or, is there a way to create skins my self? =D |
| 10:50:45 | midkay_ | SereR0kR, sure, why not? |
| 10:51:06 | linuxstb | JdGordon: It's easy to check for fg/bg colours - you just add an extra parameter to the set_color() function which is the "banned colour". |
| 10:51:14 | midkay_ | well. 'skins'?.. you can create a WPS, or a theme (which defines a font, WPS, backdrop, etc.. to use) |
| 10:51:23 | JdGordon | .. thats one way to do it |
| 10:51:31 | midkay_ | haha. |
| 10:51:32 | JdGordon | i guess thats better than what i was gonna do : |
| 10:51:33 | midkay_ | that'd be a nice splash. |
| 10:51:38 | midkay_ | "Banned color". |
| 10:51:49 | SereR0kR | is there a tutorial or documentation for "creating skins" |
| 10:52:11 | midkay_ | SereR0kR, the wiki has documentation for WPS' and config files.. |
| 10:52:20 | midkay_ | check the DocsIndex |
| 10:52:32 | SereR0kR | ok |
| 10:54:17 | linuxstb | SereR0kR: Check the Rockbox iPod forum - there are some discussions there about themes. |
| 10:55:39 | JdGordon | "Unacceptable color choen" ? |
| 10:55:41 | JdGordon | chosen |
| 10:56:01 | linuxstb | Or just "Invalid colour" |
| 10:56:49 | midkay_ | invalid sounds good |
| 10:57:00 | midkay_ | without going into a sentence about why it's invalid :) |
| 10:57:11 | SereR0kR | thx linuxstb |
| 10:57:35 | midkay_ | "Sorry, you've chosen an invalid color. Invalid in that it's the same as the current [foreground/background] color. Please select another." |
| 10:57:35 | midkay_ | :) |
| 10:57:54 | linuxstb | That's fine on my 5g's screen. Might be a problem on the Nano.... |
| 10:58:24 | midkay_ | hahaha |
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| 11:00:10 | earHertz | what if I want to reverse the fg and bg colors>? with your banning, I'll have to switch to an intermediary color: startiing frim white/back, I can''t switch to black/black and then blakc/white, I have to do white/black -> green/black −−> green/white −−> black/white |
| 11:00:12 | SereR0kR | hm damn it's hard to create a skin xD |
| 11:00:15 | JdGordon | ok, done.. just making sure i dont have any typos |
| 11:00:51 | JdGordon | earHertz: well.. we could add another menu item to inverse the colours |
| 11:00:53 | Kingstone | it's not easy ;\ |
| 11:01:04 | JdGordon | linuxstb: shuold i add that while im there/ |
| 11:01:04 | JdGordon | ? |
| 11:01:09 | earHertz | don't ban it, just flash a warning |
| 11:01:25 | earHertz | "are you sure you want fg=bg?" |
| 11:02:01 | earHertz | if they try to save it in t that config |
| 11:03:06 | linuxstb | JdGordon: We don't want to bloat the code too much. IMO, changing the colours isn't a common enough function to warrant any more code than necessary. |
| 11:03:13 | linuxstb | earHertz: What colours would you use for the warning? :) |
| 11:03:34 | earHertz | always use black on white for all messages |
| 11:03:41 | JdGordon | linuxstb: true.. but the colour targets arnt so constrained, and it add 1 text sting, and 5 lines of code :p |
| 11:03:46 | JdGordon | .. so no? |
| 11:03:56 | earHertz | if you have to push the current values onto a sstack and pop the stack after the message, do so |
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| 11:06:27 | SereR0kR | ok afk |
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| 11:06:34 | SereR0kR | creating a rockbox skin -.-" |
| 11:06:39 | JdGordon | linuxstb: http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/color.patch |
| 11:08:36 | didj | whats the deal with not being able to boot original firmware (H340, v5 bootloader), ive tried the format n all, still screws around :| |
| 11:08:51 | JdGordon | ??? hold down rec while booting |
| 11:09:19 | didj | yea, it just briefly flashed "booting original firmware", then off |
| 11:09:27 | JdGordon | u need to hold on and rec |
| 11:09:32 | JdGordon | untill the iriv fw logo shows |
| 11:09:48 | didj | yea, it was working fine yesterday |
| 11:10:01 | didj | but now cant get it to boot original, it tries to, but then flicks off |
| 11:10:11 | JdGordon | battery flat? |
| 11:10:14 | didj | tried the suggestions on the wiki |
| 11:10:21 | didj | its in the dock and should be ~90% |
| 11:11:00 | JdGordon | sure your holding on for long enough? |
| 11:11:07 | didj | yea, i had it working yesterday :p |
| 11:11:14 | * | JdGordon fails to undersand why anyone would want to boot into orig fw anyway/.... |
| 11:11:32 | didj | to watch video :p |
| 11:11:50 | JdGordon | bah, code up a rb plugin for video instead of wasint gtime watching them |
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| 11:11:58 | didj | + you see it print "Booting original firmware" or whatever on the screen, then flicks off instead of logo |
| 11:12:04 | didj | haha |
| 11:12:15 | didj | i got 0 exp w/ codecs :p |
| 11:13:05 | SereR0kR | hm |
| 11:13:13 | SereR0kR | sound doesn't work on my Rockboy :( |
| 11:13:41 | JdGordon | linuxstb: you gonna commit that file? or should i put it on flys[ray and wait..? |
| 11:15:30 | didj | ive tried the things in "The original firmware no longer boots, help!" of the iriver faq, no go |
| 11:16:31 | SereR0kR | i hate my headphones :o |
| 11:16:55 | JdGordon | didj: does it work if the ac adapter is pougged in? |
| 11:17:01 | BHSPitLappy | mine are cool... but, they're too big in my ears I think :/ |
| 11:17:05 | SereR0kR | hm no i just hate the cable :o |
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| 11:17:14 | SereR0kR | Sony MDR-EX 71SLB |
| 11:17:15 | SereR0kR | -.- |
| 11:17:30 | didj | screwing around with it in the dock, i can get it to boot directly into iriver (doesnt show rockbox loader?) |
| 11:17:33 | SereR0kR | never seen such ugly cables :o |
| 11:17:49 | didj | so i managed to reflash to stock firmware |
| 11:17:57 | didj | that runs fine weirdly enough |
| 11:21:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:21:33 | SereR0kR | hm |
| 11:21:48 | SereR0kR | is there a tutorial for compiling my own Rockbox? |
| 11:21:51 | SereR0kR | from source |
| 11:23:02 | JdGordon | linux ro windows? |
| 11:23:10 | didj | the faq seems to suggest its something on the disk thats causing it to fail, if so, why would the stock firmware work fine, but chain loading from rockbox bootloader fail? |
| 11:23:11 | SereR0kR | os x :o |
| 11:23:35 | JdGordon | um.. i tinhk its the same as linux then... just setup your build environment and hiit make |
| 11:23:41 | SereR0kR | k |
| 11:24:00 | SereR0kR | need to change something in Rockboy :o i don't like the control settings -.- |
| 11:24:42 | SereR0kR | hm forget it -.-" |
| 11:24:48 | SereR0kR | ^^ |
| 11:24:59 | SereR0kR | control settings suxx but ok -.- |
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| 11:25:14 | JdGordon | ?? |
| 11:25:53 | SereR0kR | I don't like the control settings of Rockboy on my iPod i want to use others ;> |
| 11:26:04 | midkay_ | JdGordon, i could commit it if linuxstb's afk.. |
| 11:26:08 | | Part beeble |
| 11:26:25 | JdGordon | oh ok, well anyone.. its on flyspray now |
| 11:26:42 | JdGordon | and while your there... add my search in playlist patch |
| 11:26:48 | midkay_ | haha. |
| 11:29:04 | JdGordon | :( why not? |
| 11:29:22 | midkay_ | JdGordon, this adds a new color menu then? |
| 11:29:27 | JdGordon | no |
| 11:29:44 | midkay_ | what's with the new text? why "defaults" instead of "reset colors"? |
| 11:30:01 | JdGordon | just an anoying splash if u choose a invalid colour |
| 11:30:12 | midkay_ | oh.. |
| 11:30:56 | midkay_ | there's new lang names for them too? |
| 11:31:38 | JdGordon | there is.. for the splash text |
| 11:31:46 | midkay_ | ah, figured it out |
| 11:31:54 | midkay_ | compile-testing.. |
| 11:32:19 | JdGordon | cmon... http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4759 ... add me... add mee... |
| 11:34:09 | linuxstb | midkay_, JdGordon: One minor note about your patch - your new lang string uses "color", but the other lang strings use "colour" |
| 11:34:31 | JdGordon | oh ffs... i thought we fixed all that? |
| 11:34:37 | midkay_ | linuxstb, other lang strings as in, previous ones, or globally? |
| 11:34:42 | midkay_ | iirc the global standard was 'color' |
| 11:35:05 | linuxstb | Look at apps/lang/english.lang |
| 11:35:09 | midkay_ | JdGordon, lmao at your 4 attempts to attach a file |
| 11:35:25 | midkay_ | i keep getting this: |
| 11:35:53 | linuxstb | The Rockbox standard appears to be color in the C language, colour in the English language. |
| 11:35:54 | midkay_ | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `color_menu.h', needed by `/home/midk/rockbo |
| 11:35:54 | midkay_ | x-devel/buildvid/apps/settings_menu.o'. Stop. |
| 11:36:03 | midkay_ | wtf, really? |
| 11:36:07 | midkay_ | weird, but.. :) |
| 11:36:29 | JdGordon | um.. wtf in deed? or u not applying to cvs? |
| 11:36:35 | JdGordon | to latest cvs i mean |
| 11:36:54 | JdGordon | wtf is color_menu.h? |
| 11:37:01 | midkay_ | apparently part of your patch? |
| 11:37:05 | midkay_ | latest cvs, yes |
| 11:37:28 | JdGordon | color_picker.h never color_menu |
| 11:37:44 | midkay_ | in your patch, you add a lot of stuff involving.. color_menu, it seems |
| 11:37:49 | midkay_ | yeah. wtf. |
| 11:37:54 | midkay_ | wrong patch? outdated? |
| 11:37:57 | midkay_ | something's really wrong here |
| 11:37:59 | linuxstb | midkay_: The patch doesn't refer to color_menu.h |
| 11:38:04 | midkay_ | lang strings are different.. |
| 11:38:07 | linuxstb | I think you must be using the wrong patch... |
| 11:38:18 | midkay_ | +#ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR |
| 11:38:18 | midkay_ | +#include "color_menu.h" |
| 11:38:18 | midkay_ | +#endif |
| 11:38:23 | midkay_ | the one he linked to.. |
| 11:38:26 | SereR0kR | anyone got mbr of iPod Photo 30Gig? |
| 11:38:31 | midkay_ | i think he linked to an old outdated one. |
| 11:38:35 | midkay_ | blast!!!! |
| 11:38:54 | JdGordon | 4759?? thats the searc in pl patch... |
| 11:39:18 | JdGordon | that doesnt have color_menu.h either... wtf did u tyr applying? |
| 11:39:29 | midkay_ | http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/color.patch |
| 11:39:42 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4765 |
| 11:39:44 | midkay_ | must be some really old patch. thanks! now i need to re-check-out! ;) |
| 11:40:03 | linuxstb | Just do patch -R with the patch you applied. |
| 11:40:25 | JdGordon | no, thats the right patch... i dunno |
| 11:40:51 | midkay_ | JdGordon, the one on users.blah? no.. |
| 11:41:01 | midkay_ | no no no:) |
| 11:41:16 | midkay_ | must be some old early version.. |
| 11:41:18 | SereR0kR | hm my father wants rockbox on his iPod Color but he has no mbr for converting his HFS+ iPod to FAT32 |
| 11:41:57 | JdGordon | something is wierd.. coz thats the file i updated.. might be uni chaching something wrong or sometihng.. i dunno.. |
| 11:42:06 | JdGordon | the flyspray link above is correct |
| 11:42:41 | midkay_ | JdGordon, applied your flyspray version.. compiling |
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| 11:44:30 | lamed | hello |
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| 11:45:24 | lamed | safetydan: your cut/copy/paste patch was linked to SF in the forum message. is it on fs? |
| 11:46:25 | safetydan | yes |
| 11:46:43 | safetydan | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3033 |
| 11:46:59 | safetydan | I have a slightly newer version that's smaller on targets that don't do HAVE_MULTIVOLUME |
| 11:47:02 | safetydan | but otherwise it's the same |
| 11:47:55 | lamed | have_multivolume? haven't came across that one. h120? |
| 11:48:19 | safetydan | Ondio's have expandable storage. You can plug MMC cards in and they show up like another drive |
| 11:48:31 | safetydan | The patch is still not thoroughly tested so only use it on data you have a copy of somewhere else. |
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| 11:50:47 | midkay_ | JdGordon, looks good |
| 11:50:59 | JdGordon | yay! |
| 11:51:27 | lamed | hehe... well i'm still trying to figure out why am i getting |
| 11:51:28 | lamed | configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you don't have SDL (properly) installed. Please correct and re-run configure! |
| 11:51:43 | lamed | when trying to build the sim, so your patch is the next challange |
| 11:51:51 | SereR0kR | how can i move a folder into another folder (which is not empty ;>) |
| 11:52:04 | SereR0kR | mv [are there flags for that?] a b |
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| 11:52:50 | linuxstb | mv a b will move directory a into directory b - so the new directory will be b/a |
| 11:53:02 | SereR0kR | yep |
| 11:53:26 | SereR0kR | how can i move all files from 1 folder into another? |
| 11:53:32 | linuxstb | mv a/* b |
| 11:54:00 | linuxstb | Or better, add the trailing slash to b - mv a/* b/ |
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| 11:54:16 | safetydan | lamed, check that sdl-config command is on your path |
| 11:54:46 | SereR0kR | ok thx works |
| 11:55:26 | lamed | is that the patch? /usr/local/bin? |
| 11:56:09 | midkay_ | JdGordon, i committed it |
| 11:56:17 | JdGordon | yippe :D |
| 11:56:23 | JdGordon | now do the playlist patch |
| 11:56:24 | safetydan | lamed, try typing sdl-config at the prompt |
| 11:56:28 | midkay_ | JdGordon, fu man! |
| 11:56:29 | midkay_ | :) |
| 11:57:04 | SereR0kR | is there any theme for 5G which displays cover art? |
| 11:58:08 | lamed | safetydan: command not found. I was installing SDL just by choosing the SDL package from www.rockbox.org mirror site. is that enough? |
| 11:58:15 | lamed | or was i missing something |
| 11:58:58 | safetydan | lamed, did you get the sdl development package as well? |
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| 12:00:56 | lamed | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment just the Devel-SDL package that's mentioned there. |
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| 12:01:36 | safetydan | odd |
| 12:01:39 | lamed | mmm... maybe... i think i might got it |
| 12:01:49 | safetydan | you should have a sdl-config command either in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin |
| 12:02:22 | lamed | I'm missing a .bash_profile in /home. |
| 12:03:59 | muesli__ | high |
| 12:04:01 | safetydan | What's the result of "echo $PATH"? |
| 12:04:23 | JdGordon | $PATH $PATH .. $PATH .. <slowly getting quieter> $PATH |
| 12:04:28 | JdGordon | :p |
| 12:04:34 | JdGordon | doesnt quite work on irc |
| 12:04:37 | safetydan | very droll |
| 12:05:25 | lamed | no usr/local/bin there. |
| 12:05:45 | lamed | .:/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/sh1/bin:/opt/m68k/bin:/opt/arm/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin:.:../ bin:../usr/bin |
| 12:06:00 | lamed | where do i edit that? |
| 12:06:15 | safetydan | Is the sdl-config command in /usr/local/bin? |
| 12:06:19 | lamed | yeah |
| 12:06:23 | safetydan | ah |
| 12:06:27 | safetydan | just do this |
| 12:06:39 | safetydan | export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH |
| 12:06:47 | safetydan | then try the build again |
| 12:06:54 | safetydan | you can also add that line to your .bash_profile |
| 12:07:41 | lamed | mmm.. cool. but there's no .bash_profile file at all for now under /home. so where is the exsistant $PATH is stored? |
| 12:08:31 | safetydan | lamed, probably /etc/profile |
| 12:08:41 | safetydan | lamed, you can always create $HOME/.bash_profile |
| 12:10:42 | midkay_ | JdGordon, haha |
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| 12:19:03 | lamed | safetydan : | PATH="/.:/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/sh1/bin:/opt/m68k/bin:/opt/arm/bin:$PATH" | for some reason I guess something is wrong... because if i type commands that are in /usr/bin, it claims they are missing |
| 12:19:29 | lamed | (that's was from etc/profile |
| 12:20:19 | safetydan | that line seems okay (apart from missing /usr/local/bin) |
| 12:20:22 | safetydan | I'm not sure what is wrong then |
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| 12:21:31 | lamed | dammit :/ it got screwed up after trying to add /usr/local/bin |
| 12:24:22 | lamed | safetydan: any other places that may define a PATH? |
| 12:27:47 | safetydan | $HOME/.bashrc is another place to look |
| 12:28:17 | lamed | :( I've got nothing under $home |
| 12:28:40 | safetydan | Nothing at all? |
| 12:28:54 | safetydan | seems odd, the first time your run cygwin it should create some files in your home directory |
| 12:29:22 | linuxstb | lamed: Just add it to the existing PATH definition in /etc/profile |
| 12:30:37 | lamed | linuxstb: corrently, the problem is i can't even run LS under cygwin |
| 12:30:45 | lamed | (ls) |
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| 12:31:13 | linuxstb | lamed: You've messed up your path then. Just delete your .bashrc/.bash_profile file. |
| 12:32:28 | lamed | well, no .bash_profile file, and .bashrc = shopt -s nocaseglob |
| 12:33:27 | linuxstb | Just try typing "export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH" at the prompt |
| 12:34:24 | lamed | done that. now i get |
| 12:35:14 | lamed | echo $PATH /bin:/usr/bin:/.:/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/sh1/bin:/opt/m68k/bin:/opt/arm/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin:.:../bin:../usr/bin |
| 12:36:00 | lamed | messy |
| 12:36:37 | lamed | and still, ls dosen't work :/ |
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| 12:37:13 | linuxstb | What did you change? |
| 12:38:52 | lamed | i've only been trying to |<safetydan> export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH | in order to get sdl-config running for the sim, and then ls stopped working. |
| 12:39:32 | linuxstb | If you close cygwin, and then start it again, is it OK? |
| 12:40:29 | lamed | i've been restarting the thing for couple of dozens of times |
| 12:41:08 | lamed | (ive noticed that you have to restart it order to have a re-read on the /etc/profile file |
| 12:41:52 | linuxstb | Are you sure you haven't accidentally modified any configuration files? Is /etc/profile still the same as it was? |
| 12:41:59 | linuxstb | Also, does typing /bin/ls work? |
| 12:44:19 | lamed | actually, ls is under /usr/bin over here, but nither /usr/bin/ls under / works |
| 12:45:09 | lamed | ec/profile is the same. i've diffed it against an older copy |
| 12:45:14 | lamed | etc/profile is the same. i've diffed it against an older copy |
| 12:45:51 | lamed | BASH: ../usr/bin/ls: No such file or directory |
| 12:45:57 | lamed | />../usr/bin/ls |
| 12:46:04 | lamed | (other way around) |
| 12:47:47 | lamed | should i try a fresh boot..? i'll brb |
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| 12:51:28 | linuxstb | midkay_: I've just seen your commit of JdGordon's patch. Was there a reason you kept the new language string as "Invalid color" ? |
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| 12:59:13 | earHertz | midkay_: yoou have cvs coomit rights? |
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| 13:16:24 | BHSPitLappy | why does that always happen. |
| 13:16:28 | BHSPitLappy | s/the color// |
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| 13:26:44 | SereR0kR | how can i play doom on my 5G on Rockbox? where can i get this patch? how can i apply it? do i need anything else? ;> |
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| 13:47:46 | Membrillo | San: you here? |
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| 13:55:41 | linuxstb | OK, I'm confused. I've moved some data in my pacman emulator to IRAM, and now it's running slightly slower than before... This is on an ipod 5g. |
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| 13:56:54 | Membrillo | haha strange |
| 13:56:59 | Membrillo | pacman emulator aye? |
| 13:57:49 | linuxstb | Yep. |
| 13:58:07 | Membrillo | is there not an open source pacman version out there to port? surely that would be easier then 'emulating' it. what files are you even emulating....? |
| 13:58:23 | linuxstb | I'm emulating the original pacman arcade machine. |
| 13:58:32 | Membrillo | or what system are you emulating i mean |
| 13:58:32 | linuxstb | (or rather, the program I've ported emulates it) |
| 13:58:40 | linuxstb | I'm emulating the original pacman arcade machine. |
| 13:58:55 | Membrillo | ok nice |
| 13:59:11 | Membrillo | the game files arent available to directly port? |
| 13:59:12 | linuxstb | It's only a 3MHz Z80, so shouldn't be hard in theory... |
| 13:59:25 | Membrillo | oh ok, fair enough then |
| 13:59:54 | Membrillo | will other arcade games be able to run through the same plugin? |
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| 14:00:08 | Membrillo | or is it just for pacman |
| 14:00:32 | linuxstb | There are a small number of other games that run on Pacman hardware. But it could also be extended for games with similar hardware. |
| 14:00:43 | Membrillo | very nice indeed |
| 14:01:02 | Membrillo | nothing like some more good boredom\battery killers |
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| 14:01:36 | Membrillo | im not sure wether its open sourced now, but i think lemmings would be awesome on rockbox |
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| 14:01:55 | Membrillo | I think rockstar (the makers of the GTA series) made the original |
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| 14:08:31 | linuxstb | bbl |
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| 14:14:07 | Membrillo | ahahaha |
| 14:14:10 | Membrillo | perfect!!! |
| 14:14:11 | Membrillo | http://www.flipcode.com/articles/toofast_issue02.shtml |
| 14:14:43 | Membrillo | lemmings ported for 16bit screen, with a smaller resolution and lower memory consumption |
| 14:14:57 | Membrillo | and a 2bit display as well |
| 14:15:17 | ender` | lemmings! that brings back memories |
| 14:15:19 | Membrillo | The Lemmings source code contains no platform specific code, and no #ifdef's |
| 14:16:01 | * | ender` played that on a 286 |
| 14:16:08 | Membrillo | The actual game source (Lemmings.cpp) does not contain a single platform specific line, not even #ifdef's. This means that you can write games that work on ALL platforms, without actually owning the older (or newer) devices, and without knowing the technical details of porting to these devices. |
| 14:16:12 | Membrillo | sweeeeeeet |
| 14:16:21 | Membrillo | who feels like they want to give this a shot :P |
| 14:17:26 | safetydan | ooh, sounds like a lark |
| 14:17:30 | * | safetydan takes a look |
| 14:17:55 | * | ender` also saw lemmings written entirely in html/javascript |
| 14:17:55 | * | Membrillo doesnt know what lark means but gives the thumbs up |
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| 14:18:17 | Membrillo | ender: http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/ |
| 14:18:28 | Membrillo | thats DHTML lemmings |
| 14:18:28 | ender` | haha |
| 14:18:31 | safetydan | no data files included so could be a bit hard to do |
| 14:18:50 | Membrillo | no data files? what does that mean? |
| 14:19:34 | safetydan | No graphics or sound |
| 14:19:46 | safetydan | Also, I'm not sure how well this would work without a mouse like interface |
| 14:19:47 | Membrillo | ah |
| 14:19:54 | ender` | weird, they disappear while digging |
| 14:20:05 | Membrillo | I thought maybe you could use a xobox like cursor |
| 14:20:23 | safetydan | bah, and C++ as well |
| 14:20:33 | Membrillo | could you not download the DOS version of lemmings (or another port) and use those data files |
| 14:20:58 | safetydan | yeah, but that sounds like work :) |
| 14:21:03 | safetydan | And probably not legal |
| 14:21:15 | Membrillo | dang it. i thought id struck gold when i saw it was designed for integer based CPU and not FPU |
| 14:21:20 | Membrillo | sounds like its a bit more complex |
| 14:21:40 | Membrillo | ah well, sounds like the legal side of rockboy. the systems legal, the game isnt |
| 14:22:41 | Membrillo | im pretty sure lemmings is freeware now |
| 14:23:10 | didj | so rockboy is only orig gameboy yea? (not colour?) |
| 14:23:20 | Membrillo | gees..... only 15 years since lemmings was released |
| 14:23:30 | Membrillo | gameboy and gameboy colour |
| 14:23:34 | Membrillo | not advanced though |
| 14:24:27 | safetydan | Membrillo, unless DMA Design has explicitly said it's freeware, it's not free. |
| 14:24:30 | didj | ah |
| 14:24:31 | didj | cool |
| 14:26:42 | Membrillo | hmmm ok |
| 14:26:54 | Membrillo | cant find anything related to them saying its freeware |
| 14:27:08 | Membrillo | so it would be a fair bit of work to get it working safetydan? |
| 14:27:16 | Membrillo | from a glance? |
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| 14:28:43 | safetydan | Well it wouldn't be too bad. It is already running on small systems. It does make use of floating point routines though which would have to go |
| 14:29:42 | Membrillo | interesting |
| 14:29:48 | Membrillo | seeing he says: When writing software for a palm computer, you have to consider more than just the hardware limitations like speed and the lack of an FPU |
| 14:30:21 | safetydan | int line = 206 - y * 5 + (int)(y * 0.7f * sin( (float)(y + framenr) / 4 )); |
| 14:30:34 | safetydan | Okay, so there's only one line of floating point |
| 14:30:51 | safetydan | then you'd also have to un-C++ it |
| 14:31:16 | safetydan | If someone was motivated they could do it in a couple of days I guess. |
| 14:31:43 | Membrillo | oh ok fair enough. I dont have a huge wealth of C knowledge... what do you have to go about doing to de-'c++'-ify code |
| 14:32:11 | Membrillo | ok awesome |
| 14:32:23 | Membrillo | i might make a thread on misticriver and see if anyone is interested |
| 14:33:33 | safetydan | Your biggest problem is getting the art and sound. |
| 14:34:36 | safetydan | To de-C++ it, you'd need to rewrite the Lemming and LAnim objects to be procedural functions over an array or something rather than object methods |
| 14:35:02 | Membrillo | hmmm the dos version of the game has a heap of DAT files, 2 BAT files, 3 EXE files and a COM file |
| 14:35:12 | Membrillo | i guess the audio is stored in the dats |
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| 14:35:30 | Membrillo | and as the com file is LEMVGA.COM id say the graphics are in there |
| 14:36:08 | Membrillo | nope lemvga is a configuration utility |
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| 14:36:11 | safetydan | graphics are probably also in the .DAT files as .COM is usually an executable image |
| 14:36:45 | Membrillo | ok fair enough |
| 14:37:05 | Membrillo | yeah some of the .DAT files have VGA in them |
| 14:37:20 | Membrillo | then others are like.. LEVEL00.DAT LEVEL01.DAT etc |
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| 14:38:58 | Membrillo | so how does that lemmings port try and access the graphics and sound of the game? |
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| 14:51:13 | ep0ch | linuxstb, preglow: is there an unofficial ipod cpu boost patch i can try out? |
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| 15:21:24 | JdGordon | BHSPitLappy: u around? |
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| 16:01:33 | t0mas | who's Jonathan Gordon? |
| 16:04:12 | LinusN | it's JdGordon |
| 16:04:41 | t0mas | ok, saw his e-mail? |
| 16:04:56 | t0mas | I can commit it... any stoppers from you? |
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| 16:05:57 | LinusN | i haven't checked the latest src |
| 16:06:47 | LinusN | my biggest concern was the speed in non-cached mode |
| 16:08:17 | t0mas | in the comments he says it's ok with cache turned off |
| 16:08:59 | t0mas | oh wait... that's his e-mail: "(even with dir cache |
| 16:08:59 | t0mas | off its still bearable..)" |
| 16:11:36 | LinusN | does the code look ok? |
| 16:11:48 | t0mas | doesn't look horrible :) |
| 16:11:59 | LinusN | haha |
| 16:12:00 | t0mas | uses spaces, no tabs... |
| 16:12:18 | LinusN | does it use up lots of memory? |
| 16:12:24 | t0mas | looks like he used #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP on all needed places |
| 16:12:28 | t0mas | I was just looking for that :) |
| 16:12:41 | t0mas | read some posts on the mailinglist that archos targets don't like the mem usage :) |
| 16:12:50 | LinusN | hehe |
| 16:14:01 | t0mas | int found_indicies[MAX_PLAYLIST_ENTRIES] |
| 16:14:19 | t0mas | the only large array |
| 16:15:20 | t0mas | is MAX_PLAYLIST_ENTRIES > 512 ? |
| 16:15:40 | LinusN | 200 i think |
| 16:15:58 | t0mas | ok, then it uses < 1kb of mem |
| 16:16:13 | LinusN | sounds good |
| 16:16:23 | LinusN | are the strings localized? |
| 16:16:34 | t0mas | LANG_SEARCH_IN_PLAYLIST |
| 16:16:37 | t0mas | jup |
| 16:16:41 | LinusN | go ahead then |
| 16:16:54 | t0mas | well I'm just waiting for him to answere a few questions... |
| 16:17:12 | t0mas | "Does it work on sim?" "Does it compile on all targets?" "On what targets have you tested it?" |
| 16:19:40 | safetydan | How tight are we on code size on archos anyway? My cut/copy/paste patch apparently adds around 1400 bytes to the rockbox image on SH1. |
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| 16:21:12 | t0mas | OMG |
| 16:21:18 | t0mas | some people are really stupid... |
| 16:21:38 | LinusN | code size is always tight, but the combined code+data is the real problem |
| 16:21:38 | t0mas | some user of misticriver.net: "use torrent?? whats that! thats illegal!" |
| 16:21:55 | t0mas | about using bittorrent to distribute wikipedia content to rockbox users |
| 16:22:02 | didj | lol |
| 16:22:04 | LinusN | the archos devices have only 2mbytes for code, data and mp3 buffer |
| 16:22:44 | LinusN | t0mas: that shows the antipirate lobbying is successful |
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| 16:23:13 | t0mas | LinusN: it sucks... bittorrent would be a really nice way to distribute DRM-ed movies... |
| 16:23:23 | t0mas | like: pay $ 4,- for a normal download |
| 16:23:24 | safetydan | LinusN, which is part of the reason I haven't comitted it yet. Is it a feature enough people want to justify the code size increase? |
| 16:23:27 | t0mas | play % 2 for a BT download |
| 16:23:38 | t0mas | because that saves the movie company some bandwidth |
| 16:23:48 | earHertz | safetydan: can it be coded as a plugin? |
| 16:23:48 | safetydan | (the other reason being that I haven't tested it enough yet) |
| 16:24:04 | t0mas | play % 2 −−> pay $ 2 |
| 16:24:10 | safetydan | earHertz, yes, but it sort of defeats the purpose of being a "clipboard" |
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| 16:24:19 | safetydan | a file management plugin might be a better overall idea though |
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| 16:25:41 | t0mas | LinusN: close this one, stating that we can also read text files, so people can use the same files they use on ipod? −−> http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4755 |
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| 16:26:46 | earHertz | t0mas: ipod can read a very limited subset of html |
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| 16:26:53 | t0mas | ipodlinux too? |
| 16:27:01 | earHertz | t0mas: dunno |
| 16:27:17 | t0mas | linuxstb? you're the ipodlinux guy? :) |
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| 16:37:41 | safetydan | Did someone write a wav output for the PCM layer at some point? |
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| 16:41:46 | merkisoft | hi |
| 16:42:04 | merkisoft | i have a problem with my ihp120 - the battery is at 0 volts |
| 16:42:20 | XavierGr | ? |
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| 16:42:24 | merkisoft | can i charge it still or is it over? |
| 16:42:25 | XavierGr | 0 volts? |
| 16:42:47 | merkisoft | yeah, my girlfriend used a wrong charger |
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| 16:42:48 | XavierGr | how do you know that it is 0? did you measured it? |
| 16:43:05 | XavierGr | does the player boot up? |
| 16:43:06 | merkisoft | yes i opened the device and messured it. |
| 16:43:11 | XavierGr | or nothing? |
| 16:43:17 | merkisoft | nothing |
| 16:43:28 | merkisoft | even when i plug it in... |
| 16:43:52 | XavierGr | you could try changeing the battery but AFAIK if you put a awrong charger to iHP then the story ends |
| 16:43:57 | XavierGr | the CPU is fried |
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| 16:44:05 | XavierGr | again you could try |
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| 16:44:17 | XavierGr | but I am not sure if that will fix it |
| 16:44:46 | merkisoft | i tried to use the real one but no chance... |
| 16:45:22 | merkisoft | i would like to directly charge it - if possible (aren't 0 volts problematic that the battery is totally distroyed?) |
| 16:45:44 | MarcoPolo | is there a chance to see cover artwork support soon in rockbox for ipod ? |
| 16:45:47 | safetydan | merkisoft, it's quite possible the entire thing is fried. Wouldn't be the first time. |
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| 16:45:55 | XavierGr | you could open it and couple it (on the battery jack) with a power supply at 3.7 - 4.0 volts, and see if this works |
| 16:46:02 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, it's already supported. Use a WPS that includes album art. |
| 16:46:20 | merkisoft | 3.7-4.0 volts ok - i'll see what i can do... thanks for the voltages... |
| 16:46:32 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: ooohhh really !!!! that's cool ! |
| 16:46:42 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: it reads the cover art in the id3tags ? |
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| 16:48:14 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, no not yet. It looks for a file called cover.bmp in the same directory. |
| 16:48:29 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: ah ok, i understand |
| 16:48:36 | MarcoPolo | I'll add it to my custom wps |
| 16:48:40 | MarcoPolo | it's really cool :) |
| 16:50:01 | safetydan | It may also look for "Name of Album.bmp" as well |
| 16:50:09 | safetydan | oo... wait |
| 16:50:24 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: what's the var for it ? |
| 16:50:24 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, it's not included in the daily builds from Rockbox.... I just got confused there for a bit |
| 16:50:35 | MarcoPolo | oh ok |
| 16:50:39 | safetydan | It's currently only in the H300 experimental builds. |
| 16:50:54 | MarcoPolo | is it unstable ? |
| 16:51:25 | safetydan | a better way to manage the resources used is being worked on |
| 16:51:28 | needleboy | it's stable enough |
| 16:51:35 | needleboy | i'd say it's ready for commit |
| 16:51:35 | safetydan | currently it takes up memory even if you don't use album art |
| 16:51:41 | needleboy | really? |
| 16:52:11 | MarcoPolo | i'll try to compile rockbox then :D |
| 16:53:11 | safetydan | needleboy, the bitmap space is allocated out of the track info structure |
| 16:53:34 | safetydan | so there's one copy per track in memory even if it's the same bitmap |
| 16:53:36 | safetydan | IIRC anyway |
| 16:54:12 | MarcoPolo | what do i need to compile rockbox (i'm under linux) |
| 16:54:43 | MarcoPolo | is gcc ok or does it need another compiler ? |
| 16:55:41 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, you'll need to make a cross-compiler |
| 16:55:59 | safetydan | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 16:56:09 | safetydan | and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 16:56:13 | safetydan | should get you started |
| 16:56:35 | safetydan | The album art patch is here: http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3045 |
| 16:56:51 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: i'm interested in tagcache too ;-) |
| 16:57:15 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, well... there actually isn't a usable patch for that available |
| 16:57:36 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: oh ok |
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| 17:38:40 | preglow | safetydan: i'm fairly certain they do cut/boost correctly. what evidence do they have to back up their claims? |
| 17:40:13 | safetydan | preglow, comparison with Winamps EQ basically |
| 17:40:52 | safetydan | -12 db @ 60 Hz in winamp results in nearly zero sound for a 60 Hz tone |
| 17:41:07 | safetydan | preglow, http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=401992&postcount=21 |
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| 17:42:33 | preglow | -12db shouldn't yield almost zero sound |
| 17:42:39 | preglow | it should yield sound at quarter volume |
| 17:43:31 | webguest89 | good afternoon, anyone around here who's in-depth knowledge of the Recorder hardware? |
| 17:43:40 | preglow | i wish he put up some spectrum analyser results |
| 17:43:57 | LinusN | webguest89: well, i guess i'm one of those |
| 17:44:02 | webguest89 | I did some resoldering the other day.... just the power connector |
| 17:44:05 | webguest89 | thanks linus |
| 17:44:24 | safetydan | preglow, I've been trying to find a decent tool for that under Linux... |
| 17:44:55 | webguest89 | after reassembling, only the ON and OFF buttons work... USB is fine, too. |
| 17:45:29 | webguest89 | I can switch the jukebox on and off, but I believe this is an extra circuit... |
| 17:45:48 | webguest89 | no next, no function keys... |
| 17:46:00 | LinusN | webguest89: ok, that sounds bad |
| 17:47:02 | LinusN | that might be caused by a bad ground connection |
| 17:47:16 | LinusN | is it a v1 or v2? |
| 17:47:25 | webguest89 | its a V1 |
| 17:47:40 | LinusN | check that all the ground connections to the chassis are ok |
| 17:47:56 | LinusN | there should be about 6 of them iirc |
| 17:48:07 | webguest89 | do you mean those 6 .... okay |
| 17:48:32 | webguest89 | I've soldered the ground of the power connector to one of them... |
| 17:48:53 | LinusN | with an extra wire? |
| 17:49:52 | LinusN | then you should perhaps check that the wire isn't pierced by any other solder joints on the pcb |
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| 17:50:43 | webguest89 | no, I removed the outlet (?) already one modifications before. I've a simple plastic piece to prevent it from tied out and soldered the wired to the appropiate pins |
| 17:50:55 | webguest89 | I'm going to check that |
| 17:51:58 | webguest89 | well - I have to disassemble it again completly... one moment please |
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| 17:54:38 | preglow | safetydan: i'll try to do some measurements one day, but i'm pretty certain there's nothing wrong with the eq |
| 17:54:46 | preglow | safetydan: and it's pretty widely known that the winamp eq is shite |
| 17:54:50 | earHertz | Is there a doxygen documenattion of teh rockbox code? |
| 17:54:58 | preglow | no |
| 17:55:04 | earHertz | want one? |
| 17:55:04 | safetydan | preglow, just passing on random forum posters opinions :) |
| 17:55:08 | preglow | sure |
| 17:55:22 | earHertz | ok, I'll post it |
| 17:55:23 | safetydan | preglow, I think I've got RightMark Audio thingy running under Linux so I might see what that says |
| 17:55:41 | preglow | i'm pretty certain i tried feeding the eq white noise and trying it at different freqs |
| 17:55:44 | preglow | and concluding it's good |
| 17:55:47 | preglow | but can't remember too good |
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| 17:57:36 | safetydan | well evidence is always good so if I get somewhere I might build a wiki page proving it works fine |
| 17:57:59 | ep0ch | oh if only rockbox had a built in tone generator like foobar, checking the eq would be simpler |
| 17:58:31 | ep0ch | if i get time i might do some testing too |
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| 18:03:38 | safetydan | bah, it would seem I don't have my recording cable here |
| 18:03:42 | safetydan | can't do testing then |
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| 18:06:26 | Jungti1234 | hello~! |
| 18:06:48 | Jungti1234 | Now, mIRC supports UTF-8.. |
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| 18:07:43 | Jungti1234 | anyone? :) |
| 18:12:47 | webguest89 | LinusN: the interface board had 0 ohms ground links to the battery gnd / powers supply gnd... now I've triple checked the extra connnections I made. do you know if a schematics of the power circuit exitst? |
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| 18:16:46 | SereR0kR | how can I format a HFS+ iPod to FAT32 under Linux/OSX |
| 18:19:33 | SereR0kR | ok got it ThX |
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| 18:51:01 | webguest89 | linus are you still around? |
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| 19:02:03 | webguest89 | LinusN: as far as I've figured out the µC constantly monitors the AN4 and AN5 inputs, which can be tied to the A/D converter. if I push one button the voltage changes and due to the resistor a certain voltage is being applied to the µC. |
| 19:04:39 | ep0ch | i've done some quick eq testing... i generated a 60hz sine wave and compared the shelving filter at 60hz 0.7Q at -12db and -24db against adobe audition 2. it looks like the rockbox eq aint that bad, only about 2db difference at -12db and 4db at -24db. if that makes sense :) |
| 19:05:03 | webguest89 | LinusN: i think a possible failure is that the voltage wouldnt change when I push a button? is there a way to check that? it's kind of hard checking when disassembled.... |
| 19:05:35 | safetydan | ep0ch, apparently the shelving filter works fine, it's the peak filters that don't seem to work at low frequencies |
| 19:05:42 | ep0ch | d'oh |
| 19:06:07 | webguest89 | LinusN: or is there some other way triggering the µC to check the voltages on AN4/AN5? |
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| 19:06:28 | ep0ch | ok i'll do it again in a couple of hours |
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| 19:08:11 | safetydan | ep0ch, thanks for doing the testing. it'll be nice to have evidence |
| 19:08:44 | ep0ch | np |
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| 19:18:33 | webguest89 | LinusN: sorry Linus, I gotta go - hope to see you in a couple of hours (I'll be back with nickname "no-buttons") |
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| 19:29:43 | nudelyn | Anyone know what the best lossy codec is for a 5G iPod at the moment, in terms of battery life/stability/gapless? (All my music is FLAC so I can convert to whatever.) |
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| 19:36:31 | Bger | nudelyn maybe mp3 ... |
| 19:40:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nah, vorbis |
| 19:40:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Vorbis actually runs more efficiently than MP3 as far as I can tell (on iPods) because it already has arm optimizations |
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| 19:49:41 | nudelyn | thanks, will use vorbis |
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| 19:50:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Eventually though, MP3 will probably be better, so you may want to choose that just so you don't have to reencode later for slightly better battery life. |
| 19:50:55 | Kingstone | paul, are you a nerd? |
| 19:50:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | But vorbis does have better gapless. |
| 19:51:02 | nudelyn | i don't mind reencoding, i can just leave it overnight |
| 19:51:18 | nudelyn | lame-encoded mp3 should be equally good for gapless right? |
| 19:51:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then definitely vorbis for now, though until the cpu boosting code is in, the battery life is only really affected by how often it has to spin-up to buffer, I think. |
| 19:51:39 | Kingstone | Paul_The_Nerd, where would you go on a first date? |
| 19:51:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kingstone: Well now, that depends on the girl. |
| 19:52:08 | nudelyn | hmm, might go with mp3 then |
| 19:53:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | nudelyn: But yeah, lame-encoded is near-perfect gapless. Apparently since the songs are compressed differently there might be a very slight difference in the way the two songs sound at the transition point, so where there's no audible gap you might hear a change. But this is just what I heard someone say once, so it could be entirely BS. |
| 19:53:17 | Kingstone | lets say this girl is normal, like a business & management student |
| 19:53:33 | nudelyn | i think that's a valid thing, but in 99.999% of cases doesn't produce anything you can notice |
| 19:53:34 | safetydan | nudelyn, for gapless, Vorbis is probably a better choice |
| 19:53:45 | Kingstone | Paul_The_Nerd, how old are you? |
| 19:53:50 | nudelyn | i read something in the vorbis source code about smoothing over the transition to avoid the lack of continuity |
| 19:54:07 | safetydan | You could always just put the FLAC files on there :) |
| 19:54:08 | nudelyn | (shame the encoders cannot make sure the tracks match exactly but that's life) |
| 19:54:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kingstone: Man, what's with you. I'm 23, I date girls, I am really a nerd, that doesn't negatively affect my love life. |
| 19:54:41 | Kingstone | do you live with your parents? |
| 19:54:48 | * | Paul_The_Nerd rolls his eyes. |
| 19:54:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | No. I live on my own. I support myself. |
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| 19:55:02 | Kingstone | so why you think you're a nerd? |
| 19:55:10 | Kingstone | what makes you a nerd |
| 19:55:14 | safetydan | Nothing wrong with being a nerd |
| 19:55:17 | * | safetydan is a nerd/geek |
| 19:55:45 | Kingstone | a nerd/geek is a way of behavior, a man that like computers or programming isn't nessecarily a nerd |
| 19:55:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm a nerd because I say I'm a nerd. That's reason enough there. Because I spend my spare time in here, trying to help out with a project that interests me on Friday nights, rather than partying with the rest of the college students in this town. |
| 19:56:18 | Kingstone | you can do both |
| 19:56:40 | Kingstone | you can party on friday night and help here in other times |
| 19:56:44 | safetydan | and I'm spending my Saturday night trying to get libspeex up and running |
| 19:56:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nerd itself is a word Dr. Seuss made up for a creature in his book. Therefor any application of the word as an adjective is purely up to the subjective desires for the meaning of it of those using or hearing the word. |
| 19:56:49 | preglow | i don't necessarily limit nerd/geek to mean computer stuff |
| 19:56:54 | Mikachu | it usually produces bad code if you code in bars |
| 19:57:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: Did I hear "libspeex"? |
| 19:57:03 | preglow | if you easily dive deep into stuff, that qualifies |
| 19:57:15 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, I'm not the first person to try. But yes, libspeex |
| 19:57:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Yeah. There are band-nerds, and even sports-nerds. |
| 19:57:24 | preglow | i'm a beer geek :> |
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| 19:57:40 | * | safetydan is a computer/photography/beer/gaming geek |
| 19:57:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: Not the first, but it's nice to hear it's back alive, even briefly. I wants it for audiobooks./ |
| 19:57:50 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, that's my interest too |
| 19:57:51 | preglow | photography does it for me too |
| 19:58:15 | safetydan | supposedly the fixed point work is done though there's a worrying number of "implicit refernce to cos()" warnings |
| 19:58:22 | preglow | yeah |
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| 19:58:26 | preglow | they use a lot of libm stuff |
| 19:58:30 | preglow | that needs to be put in lookup tables |
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| 19:59:43 | preglow | back to beer, bbl |
| 19:59:44 | safetydan | well step 1 is done, it compiles |
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| 20:06:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | And runs slower than cold molasses, or not at all? |
| 20:07:51 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, I only said "it compiles" not that it runs yet :) |
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| 20:09:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Notice I left the "not at all" option in there. |
| 20:09:57 | safetydan | true |
| 20:10:13 | safetydan | there's float's all over the place |
| 20:10:22 | * | safetydan wonders if they have a different definition of fixed-point |
| 20:10:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I thought you said it was supposed to be "fixed-point" |
| 20:10:50 | safetydan | It comes with a configure option for fixed point |
| 20:10:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 20:11:46 | KevinM | hi all, rockbox dev newbie here. I've written a plugin that reads the iTunesDB playlists on an ipod and lets you select one to play. |
| 20:12:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which means you either have to trust it, or follow the code. |
| 20:12:08 | KevinM | I've only tested it on my nano and wondering what I should do next for testing. |
| 20:12:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | KevinM: Post it to the patch tracker, and maybe mention it in the iPod section of the forums. |
| 20:13:44 | KevinM | do i need to register to post to the patch tracker? |
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| 20:15:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 20:15:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | I believe you do. |
| 20:15:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, there is an "open new task anonymously" option, it seems |
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| 20:20:13 | KevinM | thanks, i'll contact zagor to register |
| 20:21:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Umm, there's a simple form to fill out and that's it. |
| 20:21:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | You're looking at the flyspray patch tracker? |
| 20:22:16 | KevinM | yeah, i did that and there's something there about being bumped up to the developer's group. |
| 20:23:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, that's not necessary for posting a patch or anything though |
| 20:24:14 | pyro | I can't get this flyspray thing to work either, although I can't access sourceforge right now either |
| 20:24:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | The sourceforge tracker is gone, so you'll not really ever be able to access it. |
| 20:25:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | What kinda problems are you having with flyspray pyro? |
| 20:25:15 | pyro | well it says I need to reset the password before using flyspray, and to do that I need to get to sourceforge |
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| 20:25:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | pyro: Why do you need to get to sourceforge to reset your flyspray password? |
| 20:26:12 | pyro | I dont know - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlySpray |
| 20:26:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Click the lost password link in the upper right of the flyspray page. |
| 20:26:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | You need to tell *flyspray* to reset your password. |
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| 20:28:12 | pyro | k, sorry about this. I think I only logged into sourceforge once :p Where is the e-mail supposed to go telling you the new pw? |
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| 20:29:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | pyro: The email goes to wherever you told sourceforge your email address was. Flyspray sends it to your username at sourceforge, and sourceforge forwards it. |
| 20:30:06 | pyro | the page I linked to before says it will go to: "<username>@users.sourceforge.net " Ok, I guess I'm just waiting for the link to be sent. Perhaps sourceforge e-mail is down too, since I can't get to their website |
| 20:30:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hrm. http://sourceforge.net/ works for me. |
| 20:31:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | But yeah, it goes to that, and then sourceforge sends it on to whatever email address you supplied them with. |
| 20:31:39 | pyro | hehe, now I can get to it - I'm not crazy - I swear |
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| 20:32:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 20:32:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dunno |
| 20:32:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | It should show up eventually. It did for me, at least. |
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| 20:34:20 | pyro | once this all goes through, do I need to get to the "developers" list before sending a patch? |
| 20:34:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nah |
| 20:35:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | I *think* the developer's list is primarily for those with commit access. |
| 20:36:23 | pyro | ok, so do I send the patch through CVS or through the Flyspray page somewhere? |
| 20:36:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | The flyspray page. |
| 20:36:41 | safetydan | Yeah the developer group is for people with commit access |
| 20:36:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | You just create a new task and attach it. |
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| 20:37:13 | saa[b_r]ider | hey guys. any chance of getting some help with cygwin? |
| 20:37:45 | pyro | ok thanks Paul. I think I'll manage from here |
| 20:38:00 | Kohlrabi | maybe, saa[b_r]ider |
| 20:38:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | saa[b_r]ider: What occurs? |
| 20:38:06 | Kohlrabi | What's the problem? |
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| 20:38:50 | saa[b_r]ider | thanks guys. this is the first time I install cygwin, I installed it to run fontforge |
| 20:39:49 | saa[b_r]ider | supposedly I installed it properly. but I'm not sure exactly how to start it :) |
| 20:40:18 | saa[b_r]ider | first of all cygwin.bat is 0 Kb |
| 20:40:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://edt1023.sayya.org/fontforge/ms-install.html <−−- Apparently installation instructions for Fontforge in cygwin |
| 20:40:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh |
| 20:40:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cygwin |
| 20:41:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | My Cygwin.bat is 58bytes, so it sounds like you may not be properly installed |
| 20:41:46 | saa[b_r]ider | i've downloaded from several sources. dunno what I'm doing wrong |
| 20:42:57 | Kohlrabi | you got the cygwin folder? |
| 20:43:05 | Kohlrabi | on HD? |
| 20:43:27 | Kohlrabi | with all thos folders /bin /usr and so on? |
| 20:43:33 | Kohlrabi | And there arre files in these? |
| 20:43:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cygwin.bat *should* run /<wherever you installed to>/bin/bash.exe −−login -i |
| 20:43:54 | Kohlrabi | if it's installed ;) |
| 20:44:05 | Kohlrabi | Some friend of mine had the same problem today |
| 20:44:17 | Kohlrabi | maybe, that is |
| 20:44:23 | Kohlrabi | He said that nothing was installed |
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| 20:45:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, if the download step doesn't finish, it never gets to the install step. Have there been other install problems along the way? |
| 20:48:23 | saa[b_r]ider | Kohlrabi: got the cygwin folder, on HD, with the /bin /usr folders, with files in them :) |
| 20:49:20 | Kohlrabi | okay |
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| 20:49:25 | San | video plays on the H100, right? |
| 20:49:30 | Kohlrabi | maybe just the bat is broken then |
| 20:49:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | San: No. |
| 20:49:32 | San | or is that the recorders? |
| 20:49:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | San: It's just on the recorders I believe, and only in that special format. |
| 20:49:55 | San | yeah |
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| 20:50:00 | San | rvf |
| 20:52:23 | pyro | Paul: I tried resetting my password on Flyspray. I also sent an e-mail to myself at users.sourceforge.net to check if the e-mail was forwarding. I got the forwarded e-mail but no flyspray password reset e-mail |
| 20:53:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | pyro: At this point, you need to contact someone much higher up on the food chain than me. Heh. |
| 20:53:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I suppose Zagor |
| 20:54:57 | pyro | alright, thx |
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| 21:16:35 | SereRokR | it's so hard to boot the original iPod Firmware from rockbox -.- |
| 21:16:58 | Aditya | its cause you touch your little sister at night |
| 21:17:08 | SereRokR | not really |
| 21:18:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | SereRokR: Well, generally speaking the idea is that you wouldn't *want* to boot the original firmware very often, or at all. |
| 21:19:15 | SereRokR | hm but the power management on Rockbox really suxx ;> |
| 21:20:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it doesn't suck. |
| 21:20:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | It just doesn't exist yet. |
| 21:20:44 | SereRokR | when will it exist? =P |
| 21:20:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | When someone makes it. |
| 21:20:59 | Bger | :)) |
| 21:21:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | So what do you use rockbox for then, if the battery life is too bad for you? |
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| 21:21:52 | SereRokR | i uninstalled it |
| 21:22:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which is really the right choice, if rockbox doesn't fill your needs. |
| 21:23:12 | SereRokR | yep ;> |
| 21:23:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Meanwhile, I use it exclusively. :) |
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| 21:25:21 | BHSPitLappy | I just updated for the first time in a while yesterday, lots of cool stuff had been added |
| 21:25:28 | BHSPitLappy | the audio stuff is awesome |
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| 21:27:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which audio stuff? |
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| 21:31:22 | pyro | I finally got my first patch in: H3x0 New USB Charging Functionality. Just a general question though. Why are some of the patches been sitting there for so long without either being deleted or being commited? |
| 21:32:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Some of them are, for example, patches that some people might find useful, but would increase code size in general and not be useful to many (or any but a select few). |
| 21:32:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or sometimes they just don't get noticed, or get forgotten and haven't been cleaned up. |
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| 21:33:17 | pyro | ok. just curious |
| 21:33:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | it kinda varies. There's a lot of possible reasons really |
| 21:33:43 | Aditya | WHY!!! |
| 21:33:45 | Aditya | WHY!!! |
| 21:33:51 | Aditya | Why the hell did FOX cancel firefly! |
| 21:34:01 | pyro | yeah, I guess all of them don't necessary "benefit" rockbox in general |
| 21:34:04 | muesli- | cos _FireFly_ is here ^^ |
| 21:34:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because they're Fox. Do you really need to ask? They cancelled Futurama and Firefly too. I think they want the exclusive use of the letter F. |
| 21:34:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Futurama and Family Guy rather |
| 21:34:31 | Aditya | ugh |
| 21:34:35 | Aditya | I just watch serenity |
| 21:34:44 | Aditya | and I now hate FOX something fiercer |
| 21:35:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | pyro: Well, in some cases it's also because they *would* benefit Rockbox, but they still need work done, and nobody's finished fixing problems with them. |
| 21:37:20 | Aditya | well |
| 21:37:32 | Aditya | I dont know for sure but I feel some of those bugs need other bugs to be fixed first |
| 21:37:50 | Aditya | as in bug B cant be fixed before bug A is |
| 21:38:18 | Bger | if B depends on A, yes ... |
| 21:38:31 | Aditya | way to be redundant |
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| 22:05:01 | Paprica | what do you think on 160x128 RockCalendar version? |
| 22:05:02 | Paprica | http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/4084/dump00225do.png |
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| 22:07:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why does Sat the 4th have an white number, but the 20th and 28th don't? |
| 22:07:54 | Aditya | today is the 4th? |
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| 22:08:32 | Paprica | because the cursor on the 4th |
| 22:08:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Considering how dark that shade can look, I think it may best to invert the color of the number on all tiles that dark, and come up for another way of indicating what's selected? |
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| 22:09:36 | Paprica | mm |
| 22:10:10 | Paprica | i think the invert color is the best way for cursor |
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| 22:11:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm just saying that things like the 20th and 28th will be hard to read for a lot of people, because that gray is very dark on the actual screen |
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| 22:13:25 | Paprica | mmm ok i will make it brighter |
| 22:13:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, there's only "dark gray" "light gray" "black" and "white" unless you're going to use the grayscale library. |
| 22:14:52 | Aditya | well |
| 22:14:52 | Mikachu | maybe you can have a white box around the number? |
| 22:14:57 | Aditya | you could draw an inner border |
| 22:14:59 | Aditya | pssh |
| 22:15:02 | Aditya | stop reading my mind! |
| 22:15:05 | Mikachu | i mean background for the text |
| 22:15:13 | Aditya | why? |
| 22:15:25 | Aditya | just draw a white box around the cursor box |
| 22:15:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | So you cal always read the number, independent of cell color. |
| 22:15:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | can |
| 22:15:31 | Mikachu | exactly |
| 22:15:36 | Aditya | I know... |
| 22:15:49 | Aditya | but I am thinking it would be easier to just draw a box around the cursor cell |
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| 22:16:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, Mikachu's suggestion would create a much more uniform graphical style than having some numbers in black, and some in white, depending on the color of their cell. |
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| 22:23:28 | Paprica | mm i cant do LCD_BRIGHTNESS(120)? |
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| 22:23:48 | Paprica | i need to use only |
| 22:23:48 | Paprica | #define LCD_BLACK LCD_BRIGHTNESS(0) |
| 22:23:48 | Paprica | #define LCD_DARKGRAY LCD_BRIGHTNESS(85) |
| 22:23:48 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Paprica |
| 22:23:48 | Paprica | #define LCD_LIGHTGRAY LCD_BRIGHTNESS(170) |
| 22:23:48 | Paprica | #define LCD_WHITE LCD_BRIGHTNESS(255) |
| 22:23:50 | Paprica | ? |
| 22:24:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | The thing is that if you set it to any other number, I believe it will approximate to one of those anyway. |
| 22:24:50 | Aditya | paprica |
| 22:24:55 | Aditya | the display is what limits it really |
| 22:25:03 | Aditya | you cant ask a monochorme monitor to do color |
| 22:25:15 | Aditya | you can send RGB, but it will probably just show black/white |
| 22:25:28 | Aditya | and bah.. just realized Paul_The_Nerd said the same thing |
| 22:25:39 | Aditya | I must be more tired than I feel |
| 22:25:54 | Paprica | ok |
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| 22:37:08 | Paprica | http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7984/dump00238vp.png |
| 22:37:17 | Paprica | now is it ok? |
| 22:38:14 | Moos | Paprica: does your new calendar plugin is working for all platforms? |
| 22:38:36 | Aditya | I dont know Paprica ... that looks kinda ugly |
| 22:38:46 | Paprica | not yet, h300,ipod 4gen/color,h100 |
| 22:38:48 | Aditya | the random white boxes around the 20 and 28 that is |
| 22:39:05 | Paprica | it's a type of event |
| 22:39:12 | Paprica | "Holiday" |
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| 22:39:55 | Moos | Paprica: good start :), did you planed to replace the current one? |
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| 22:40:45 | Paprica | mm i dont know how could i port it to the archos targets with the tiny screen |
| 22:41:07 | Aditya | you could do some sort of extra dot instead of the baloon? |
| 22:41:12 | Aditya | for the archos I mean |
| 22:41:23 | Aditya | and make all the boxes smaller |
| 22:41:29 | Aditya | whats the size of the archos? |
| 22:41:31 | Aditya | res I mean |
| 22:41:36 | Moos | that is the hard part, cause if you want to commit it you need to replace the current one, that mean make it valaible for all tagets :( |
| 22:41:47 | Moos | @Paprica |
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| 22:43:30 | Paprica | Moos, ? |
| 22:43:43 | Paprica | Aditya, (LCD_WIDTH == 112) && (LCD_HEIGHT == 64) |
| 22:44:09 | Paprica | i dont know what to do about the keyboard |
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| 22:44:13 | Moos | Paprica: what what? :) |
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| 22:44:42 | Paprica | mm ok, i didnt saw your previous message |
| 22:44:45 | Paprica | see* |
| 22:44:49 | Paprica | =] |
| 22:45:03 | Moos | :-) |
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| 22:46:01 | Paprica | someone want to try the calendar on the h100? |
| 22:46:05 | linuxstb | Paprica: Maybe you could just display 2 or 3 weeks at a time on the smaller LCDs, and have a button to toggle between displaying the first or second half of the month. |
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| 22:46:49 | Bger | even moving the cursor should be enough |
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| 22:47:10 | Paprica | yeah, could be nice |
| 22:47:24 | Paprica | and about the keyboard? |
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| 22:48:05 | Paprica | ok i think that i know what to do |
| 22:48:12 | linuxstb | You could use the existing Rockbox keyboard. |
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| 22:48:34 | Paprica | it doest have multi line message |
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| 22:49:02 | safetydan | hrmm.... libspeex compile is moving in to include path weirdness time... |
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| 22:50:16 | * | Moos missed that safetydan was working on libspexx O.O |
| 22:50:24 | Moos | good luck man ;) |
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| 22:51:21 | safetydan | I'm probably going to need it :) |
| 22:51:34 | Moos | hehe :-) |
| 22:52:05 | linuxstb | safetydan: Are you compiling for the sim or a target? |
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| 22:52:34 | safetydan | linuxstb, sim at the moment, but target fails in the same way |
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| 22:52:53 | linuxstb | I normally find the target and sim fail in different ways when first porting code... |
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| 22:53:30 | linuxstb | But I find it useful to get it compiling for both as early as possible. |
| 22:54:25 | safetydan | The problem is doing #include <speex/speex.h> leads to a cascade of other includes that don't work |
| 22:55:08 | Mikachu | maybe you need #include <speex.h> and -I/usr/include/speex ? some packages are like that |
| 22:55:46 | safetydan | actually now target compile is dying with linking errors |
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| 22:56:34 | safetydan | I had totally forgotten about -I |
| 22:56:37 | BHSPitLappy | rockbox does voice menus, right |
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| 23:02:43 | coob | yeah |
| 23:02:55 | coob | i knocked up a build of pz0 ages ago that did it too |
| 23:03:04 | coob | but there were some problems i never got around to sorting out |
| 23:03:10 | coob | rockbox uses voice clips |
| 23:03:25 | coob | this podzilla build used a tts engine (flite) |
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| 23:03:40 | coob | used up around 4 meg of ram though |
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| 23:22:16 | fiftyfour123 | is it possible to install rockbox on a HFS formateed 5g ipod |
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| 23:26:58 | fiftyfour123 | anyone here? |
| 23:27:15 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 23:27:37 | linuxstb | You have to format your iPod as FAT32 if you want to use Rockbox. |
| 23:28:08 | muesli__ | what are ipods formatted as standard??? |
| 23:28:09 | linuxstb | The installation page has some instructions for doing that in Mac OS if you don't have access to a Windows PC. |
| 23:28:26 | fiftyfour123 | i have to change it to FAT32 to install it? |
| 23:28:37 | linuxstb | muesli__: I think they leave the factory as FAT32, but the first version of iTunes that uses it (Windows or Mac) will reformat it appropriately. |
| 23:28:48 | linuxstb | fiftyfour123: Yes. |
| 23:29:04 | fiftyfour123 | will HFS ipods ever be supported? |
| 23:29:10 | Shadowarrior13 | Waitwaitwait |
| 23:29:14 | Shadowarrior13 | Rockbox supports HFS |
| 23:29:16 | Shadowarrior13 | Doesn't it? |
| 23:29:22 | linuxstb | Shadowarrior13: No. |
| 23:29:46 | Shadowarrior13 | Huh |
| 23:29:49 | linuxstb | fiftyfour123: Only if someone adds a HFS filesystem driver to Rockbox - which is a long and hard job. |
| 23:30:00 | fiftyfour123 | ok |
| 23:30:25 | fiftyfour123 | are there any other "things" for ipod like ipl and rockbox or are those the only 2? |
| 23:30:49 | linuxstb | Nothing else that I know of. |
| 23:31:01 | fiftyfour123 | ok |
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| 23:44:19 | youngcereal | huhu wer kann deutsch |
| 23:44:33 | youngcereal | habe gerade keine zeit für english sorry |
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| 23:44:50 | youngcereal | und kennt sich mit den battery interna aus von rockbox |
| 23:44:56 | Bagder | but this an english channel |
| 23:45:04 | youngcereal | ok |
| 23:45:06 | Bagder | so use english or try a german channel |
| 23:45:14 | youngcereal | i do it in english |
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| 23:45:32 | youngcereal | how know the battery interna of rockbox |
| 23:45:37 | youngcereal | i habve written |
| 23:45:42 | youngcereal | an patch for ipod |
| 23:45:50 | Bagder | cool |
| 23:45:53 | youngcereal | my problems are the skal |
| 23:46:12 | youngcereal | it give not the correkt value |
| 23:46:34 | youngcereal | and a linie out for the dock |
| 23:46:40 | youngcereal | all g4 photo teste |
| 23:46:42 | youngcereal | t |
| 23:47:20 | youngcereal | also my problem is what the hell is skale |
| 23:48:01 | youngcereal | i must do this |
| 23:48:01 | youngcereal | the ipod g4 photo has an |
| 23:48:49 | youngcereal | 950 or 1000 liio akku |
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| 23:50:15 | youngcereal | how scale in the ipod color.h must i take |
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| 23:51:50 | amiconn | LinusN: r u there? |
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| 23:52:06 | LinusN | yes |
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| 23:52:43 | amiconn | LinusN: Today I had two ideas how to fix the spurious off problem on the recorder and would like to know what you think: |
| 23:53:02 | youngcereal | also 700 mAh |
| 23:53:02 | youngcereal | 3.7V |
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| 23:53:11 | amiconn | (1) We could debounce OFF separately, with a higher number of consecutive reads |
| 23:53:13 | youngcereal | is on the ipod photo |
| 23:53:22 | youngcereal | wat skale i must do |
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| 23:55:05 | amiconn | (2) What about switching the GPIO pin to output for a very short time, outputting High, then switching to input and read? |
| 23:55:05 | LinusN | youngcereal: you need to measure the battery power with a multimeter and compare with the A/D reading, and calculate a scale factor from it |
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| 23:55:17 | LinusN | (2 sounds interesting |
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| 23:55:43 | youngcereal | ah ok thanks then i do it and test it |
| 23:55:49 | amiconn | Should have the effect of a stronger pullup |
| 23:55:56 | youngcereal | to LinusN |
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| 23:56:25 | amiconn | LinusN: Do you know whether the v2/fm also suffers from this problem? |
| 23:56:32 | youngcereal | LinusN: if i think it is ok can i send you the code for a second test ? |
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| 23:58:11 | LinusN | amiconn: no, i don't think so |
| 23:58:45 | LinusN | youngcereal: i don't have an ipod |
| 23:58:50 | youngcereal | oh ok |
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