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00:18:15 | okilliuao | hello |
00:18:50 | BHSPitMonkey | olleh |
00:19:09 | okilliuao | can you help me with something? |
00:19:19 | BHSPitMonkey | perhaps |
00:21:08 | okilliuao | i have a ipod and have rockbox set up, but im having trouble with the controls for rockboy |
00:21:31 | BHSPitLappy | you should. |
00:21:40 | BHSPitLappy | did you not see the word "BUGGY" next to the key config? |
00:22:11 | BHSPitLappy | until it accepts combos and the hold switch, it won't be too playable |
00:22:21 | okilliuao | ic |
00:22:34 | BHSPitLappy | though I had the best luck with A=PLAY, B=<<, and everything else =MENU |
00:23:03 | okilliuao | i kept running off the ledges in mario ... |
00:25:21 | okilliuao | is there anything you suggest i install thats useful? |
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00:50:09 | no-buttons | LinusN: are you in`? |
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00:50:16 | no-buttons | LinusN: are you in`? |
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00:51:39 | no-buttons | guys - how're you doing |
00:52:02 | no-buttons | is there someone around how's chatting regulary with Linus? |
00:52:14 | no-buttons | who... sorry |
00:52:37 | no-buttons | I just want to forward a msg.... |
00:53:04 | youngcereal | type it i think he read the logs :) |
00:53:29 | no-buttons | ah, nice! thanks, youngcreal |
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00:54:02 | youngcereal | no prob |
00:54:22 | youngcereal | for me its time too sleep cu |
00:54:25 | youngcereal | to all |
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00:57:41 | no-buttons | Linus, a week ago you tried to help me with my problem (button pushing had no effect). I wanted to thank you, cause I managed to repair it. dunno how!? actually I resoldered the ground connection.... now it runs smoothly just like when I first migrated to rockbox. thanks a million! <.−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− LOG for LINUS |
00:58:23 | no-buttons | I'll be sleeping, too .... |
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02:18:47 | webguest15 | o.O .. they're selling PSPs using... Pacman! |
02:18:58 | webguest15 | that's crazy on so many levels |
02:22:38 | midkay | what? |
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02:25:50 | vca | quick q. is the nano supported in the uisim cvs sources or do i need an alternate one? |
02:26:20 | Mikachu | it should work |
02:26:21 | vca | (i'm new to the simulator & the docs are a little vague, they only really mention the archos) |
02:26:27 | vca | Mikachu: t/y |
02:26:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | vca: Anything that there's a daily build for, there's definitely a sim for. |
02:27:31 | vca | good enough, that's what i need. i'm trying to track down if my WPS is buggy or if rockbox isn't raising the pause/rw/ff flags |
02:27:55 | Mikachu | try another wps? |
02:27:58 | vca | suppose i could make a debugging wps that just displays the raw vals |
02:33:24 | vca | Mikachu: that's what i was just doing.. it's the WPS. i fixed one bug and another creeped up |
02:33:47 | Mikachu | okay |
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02:56:11 | SlaytanicLemmy | Anyone here on iPod development? |
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03:12:41 | mfgalizia | Hello, I feel like a newb for having to ask, but which package actually contains ipod_fw? Is it a part of the daily builds yet? |
03:13:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | ipod_fw is part of the source only. There's a link to a windows binary on the IpodInstallation page though |
03:14:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | The daily builds are *just* the files that go on the player, and don't have anything to do with the bootloaders or their creation/installation. |
03:14:28 | mfgalizia | Paul_The_Nerd, thanks |
03:15:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you're looking for it in the sources, it's in the tools folder |
03:15:32 | mfgalizia | ty |
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03:19:09 | earHertz | How do I another new source files to /apps? |
03:23:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: If you just want to have another file compiled, add it to SOURCES I believe. |
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03:23:21 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: where's SOURCES? |
03:23:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's several. You use the one in the folder you're putting the .c file in. |
03:24:37 | earHertz | thank you Paul_The_Nerd |
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03:59:29 | mfgalizia | Wow, this is really cool! |
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06:57:38 | VoltageX | will I be able to reload the official iRiver firmware after i've installed RockBox on my H340? |
06:58:53 | didj | yea, just reflash with iriver firmware like normal |
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07:00:34 | VoltageX | i saw a mention that you could bootload the official firmware from rockbox, is this true? |
07:00:53 | didj | ya |
07:01:01 | VoltageX | i just don't want to brick my player |
07:01:10 | didj | if you hold rec + play during startup it boots iriver firmware |
07:01:19 | VoltageX | sweet |
07:01:39 | VoltageX | I'll go rockbox always when it plays videos |
07:01:55 | ashridah | I don't recall anyone managing to brick their players yet |
07:01:55 | didj | heh |
07:02:58 | VoltageX | gah I'm getting the latest h300 build but my ISP has throttled my connection... |
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07:20:01 | VoltageX | ok guys the iriver now dual boots nicely |
07:20:11 | VoltageX | I'll be watching with interest and updating monthly |
07:21:04 | midkay | VoltageX, daily might pay off better :) |
07:21:18 | midkay | so many fixes/improvements/updates/additions every day.. it's worth checking often |
07:25:25 | VoltageX | I don't have that much time |
07:25:28 | VoltageX | weekly then |
07:26:04 | VoltageX | mostly interested in new format additions |
07:28:29 | VoltageX | OK, I just found bejeweled, I officially love you guys. |
07:28:42 | VoltageX | how hard is it to write plugins? |
07:28:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not sure how many more formats there will be. |
07:28:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | VoltageX: Do you know C? |
07:28:52 | midkay | VoltageX, good luck - check back in perhaps a year.. |
07:29:17 | VoltageX | Paul_The_Nerd: no. |
07:29:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's as hard as learning C. |
07:32:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, really it *is* learning C, I suppose |
07:40:19 | VoltageX | I really don't want to learn C right now but I'll have to in university in 2 years |
07:43:15 | VoltageX | 404 on the gameboy plugin |
07:48:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | What do you mean? |
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07:57:02 | VoltageX | there's a download link on the site, but it's broken |
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07:58:12 | BHSPitLappy | it's just part of the cvs builds |
07:58:40 | BHSPitLappy | if you have a compatible player, download rockbox (or build from cvs) and you'll have it. |
07:59:08 | VoltageX | oh |
07:59:10 | VoltageX | ok |
07:59:25 | VoltageX | I'm gonna turn up to school with pokemon on my H300 |
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08:00:49 | BHSPitLappy | heh |
08:01:04 | BHSPitLappy | it's a buggy plugin, though |
08:01:20 | BHSPitLappy | a "bugin," if you will... |
08:01:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's a download link for rockbox somewhere? |
08:01:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | VoltageX: What page is the DL link on? |
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08:31:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | VoltageX: Where did you find the rockboy download link? |
08:33:50 | midkay | PluginRockboy perhaps? |
08:33:51 | midkay | :) |
08:35:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fixed |
08:35:35 | midkay | nice, worthless link anyways |
08:35:46 | midkay | there was even a note after it saying "this is pointless because it's already in cvs".. wtf. |
08:36:08 | midkay | what sort of .. would leave the link there whilst adding a "this is in cvs so nevermind this URL" note.. |
08:37:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | I really have no clue |
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10:35:25 | amiconn | linuxstb/ preglow: Does battery_bench.rock work on iPod? |
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10:38:21 | asper | Hi guys |
10:38:24 | asper | is there linusn ? |
10:38:33 | asper | I had been able to compile the code for remoclone ! |
10:38:54 | JdGordon | hey all |
10:39:01 | asper | I have the .hex file for 16f84, does anyone want to have it to share with others remoclone builders ? |
10:39:23 | asper | maybe in the page with the schematics :) |
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10:39:37 | JdGordon | ye, just update the wiki page |
10:40:04 | asper | Can i send the hex to you ? |
10:40:25 | amiconn | Hmm, one of the build servers seems to be stuttering. Funny warning line: |
10:40:42 | amiconn | . //usrusr//liblib//gcc/gcci686-/pci686−−linuxpc−−linuxgnu-/gnu/3.4.53.4.5//....//....//.../../../.i686/-i686-pcpc−−linux-linuxgnu-/gnubin//bin/ldld:: warning:warning: creatingcreating aa DT_TEXTRELDT_TEXTREL inin object.object. |
10:41:03 | linuxstb | amiconn: I don't know about battery_bench - I haven't tried it since lostlogic added battery status reading. |
10:41:26 | amiconn | If it works, I would remove battery_test.rock |
10:41:59 | amiconn | This doesn't really make sense now we have battery_bench, provided the latter works |
10:42:15 | asper | anyway if someone want to have the hex code here it is: |
10:42:15 | asper | http://pastebin.ca/45225 |
10:43:39 | asper | the code had been compiled by the author of remoclone T.J. |
10:43:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Battery bench mostly works on the nano. You have to force it to write the file, since it syncs writes with disk spin-ups, and the Nano never does that, but if you just force it to write, it *looks* like it works. I think. |
10:44:21 | amiconn | Hmm. |
10:44:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | I would assume that it probably works on the disk based iPods. |
10:45:12 | amiconn | Imho it would be useful to simulate disk spinup like we do on the Ondio. |
10:45:39 | amiconn | This would automatically make the disk access icon work as well |
10:46:03 | amiconn | Maybe it's not that useful on Nano, but nice to have |
10:46:10 | Mikachu | i think that one already works |
10:46:26 | Mikachu | recently i got a blinking icon in the upper right |
10:46:34 | earHertz | what's the minimum sizeof( int) on all platforms? |
10:46:34 | Mikachu | i can't tell if it's actually synced to disk accesses though |
10:46:47 | amiconn | Hmm, then why does battery_bench not write when it should? |
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10:47:35 | amiconn | earHertz: 4 for all currently active targets, 2 when including inactive targets |
10:47:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: It may be that it writes directly before the disk is supposed to sleep. I haven't looked at it, just listened to what Xavier said. |
10:47:55 | earHertz | amiconn: thanks |
10:48:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: I know that the flash is never told to sleep, because then you lose the ability to access it until you reboot. |
10:48:26 | amiconn | Yes I know |
10:48:53 | amiconn | The ata code could still maintain the sleep state internally, just not send the actual sleep command to the flash |
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10:52:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Yeah. I was just saying that if it's not the spinup that it uses to sync, it could've been the sleep. I haven't looked. |
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10:59:28 | safetydan | amiconn, your version of the sim audio callback works on my system as well |
10:59:37 | amiconn | Okay. |
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11:00:00 | amiconn | A slight optimisation is possible, avoiding one if() in the while loop |
11:00:12 | amiconn | The question is whether it's worth it |
11:00:15 | safetydan | I don't think it's that performance sensitive |
11:00:34 | amiconn | Do we need FILE *DEBUG? |
11:00:41 | amiconn | FILE *debug even |
11:00:48 | safetydan | If we want to keep the feature of writing out the debug audio stream |
11:01:03 | safetydan | It was something I added to the sim |
11:01:30 | amiconn | How is this feature enabled? |
11:01:46 | safetydan | −−debugaudio |
11:01:54 | safetydan | writes a file called audiodebug.raw to the current directory |
11:02:03 | amiconn | Ah, okay |
11:02:17 | safetydan | contains the entire PCM stream and is overwritten each run of the sim |
11:02:30 | safetydan | possibly handy for quality tests or eq tuning |
11:02:34 | amiconn | This is probably a wanted feature for debugging codecs/ dsp function |
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11:20:46 | linuxstb | Is anyone interested in testing my Pacman emulator on a H300? |
11:20:56 | JdGordon | me |
11:21:27 | linuxstb | Thanks, I'll upload a patch. |
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11:23:45 | safetydan | amiconn, cheers for that. make the CPU load nearly zero too in the sim |
11:24:41 | safetydan | I almost feel like you're following me around CVS. I get sdl sound working(ish), you come along and make it work right. I get oscillograph sort of working, you come along and rewrite the oscillo plugins and the lcd scrolling :) |
11:24:54 | amiconn | hehe :) |
11:25:49 | amiconn | I am planning one more mode for oscilloscope :) |
11:25:50 | zoneout | Has anyone got rockbox going on the 5g (video) ipod?? |
11:26:16 | linuxstb | zoneout: A lot of people use it on a 5g. |
11:26:57 | zoneout | linuxstb: cool... Why is it better than the ipod firmware? |
11:27:01 | zoneout | is it stable? |
11:28:24 | linuxstb | Not everyone would call it "better" than the ipod firmware - it just implements a different set of features. Such as gapless playback, crossfade, fully-adjustable EQ, independence from iTunes (you just drag and drop music files) and support for a wide range of audio codecs. |
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11:28:42 | linuxstb | The only real downside is that the battery life isn't as long. |
11:28:56 | VoltageX | what's the boost setting in the debug menu for the h3xx? |
11:29:05 | zoneout | linuxstb: sounds good... Can you install it alongside the ipodfirmware? |
11:29:36 | linuxstb | zoneout: Yes - you "dual-boot", in the same way as installing Linux and Windows on the same PC. |
11:29:43 | zoneout | linuxstb: cool... |
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11:30:56 | zoneout | I ONLY run linux (no windows/MAC) and have been using gnupod to sync to the ipod... itunes independence sounds like my cup of tea. |
11:31:22 | zoneout | that way I can cut out gnupod... |
11:31:54 | zoneout | how is it that songs etc are organised? Presumably you can control what directories to put them in etc... |
11:32:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | zoneout: It's entirely filetree based. You put the songs where you want, organized how you want. |
11:33:09 | VoltageX | sorry to repeat but... |
11:33:10 | VoltageX | what's the boost setting in the debug menu for the h3xx? |
11:33:14 | zoneout | cool |
11:33:41 | Mikachu | VoltageX: i'd guess it always puts the cpu at max speed, instead of only when it's needed |
11:33:43 | zoneout | Paul_The_Nerd: What about song names, are they read from the id3 info? |
11:34:00 | zoneout | or are they filename? |
11:34:01 | Mikachu | yeah, but not until you play the song |
11:34:08 | linuxstb | zoneout: The file browser only displays the filenames, but the "while playing screen" displays the tag info. |
11:34:43 | amiconn | hrmpf |
11:34:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | VoltageX: The boost just tells whether the CPU is currently boosting or not. |
11:34:57 | amiconn | t0mas: distributed builds are hanging again... |
11:35:10 | zoneout | hmm... I might have to rename all my mp3s... |
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11:35:50 | Mikachu | are you calling them 35a2oelrro9.mp3 now? |
11:36:22 | zoneout | linuxstb: you say you 'dual boot', does that mean I'll need two copies of each mp3 (one for itunes and the other for rockbox)? |
11:36:31 | zoneout | Mikachu: yep :) |
11:36:49 | Mikachu | after you try rockbox you won't want to use itunes/apple firmware anymore |
11:37:08 | linuxstb | zoneout: Yes and no. Rockbox can play the files copied by iTunes, but iTunes renames your files to something like F00/P2E1A.mp3 |
11:37:11 | zoneout | Does it support video playback? |
11:37:46 | linuxstb | No |
11:37:54 | zoneout | no great loss :) |
11:38:39 | VoltageX | I must say, once I found the gameboy emulator, I've been in rockbox mode ever since |
11:38:42 | Mikachu | i think one thing is a bit strange, gtkpod calls the files F00/gtkpod89uaoeiu98.mp3, so couldn't it just call the files by their real names? |
11:38:44 | VoltageX | I lovre it |
11:38:55 | zoneout | linuxstb: Does it support the 5g's colour screen? i.e. can you display photo's/pictures etc? |
11:39:08 | Mikachu | yeah, you can zoom in jpeg pictures |
11:39:08 | linuxstb | Yes, there's a very nice colour JPEG viewer. |
11:39:21 | * | HCl thinks he missed some mail.. |
11:39:42 | zoneout | Mikachu: No, itunes.db has a limit on the number of characters in a filename (I think it's about 50)... |
11:39:45 | zoneout | it sucks |
11:40:34 | * | HCl found it |
11:40:40 | zoneout | What about my ipod speakers? Presumably they won't work with it. |
11:40:50 | zoneout | cool |
11:41:03 | zoneout | are the menus colour? |
11:41:14 | Mikachu | you can have a bitmapped background |
11:41:18 | Mikachu | ie a picture |
11:42:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | zoneout: If I understand correctly, *some* accessories that use the line out work. I think. |
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11:44:34 | JdGordon | wtf 4.30am?? |
11:44:38 | linuxstb | iPod accessories normally try and talk to the iPod via the accessories connector - but Rockbox doesn't support that yet. So generic speakers should work, but iPod-specific stuff probably won't. |
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11:45:54 | zoneout | hmm I've got a Logic3 iStation... |
11:46:09 | youngcereal | nornig |
11:46:15 | Mikachu | too bad fat doesn't support symlinks.. |
11:46:16 | youngcereal | mornig to all |
11:47:01 | zoneout | It plugs in through the accessories connector but it has it's own volume controls, and leaves the ipod to manage everything else... Do you think it'd work? |
11:47:56 | Mikachu | sounds possible |
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11:53:07 | youngcereal | mikach: you has an ipod nano right ? |
11:53:10 | amiconn | Mikachu: .lnk files are possible on FAT (and anything else) |
11:53:29 | amiconn | cygwin uses .lnk files for emulating symlinks |
11:53:42 | chiefmadness | anyone here got a Toshiba Gigabeat? |
11:54:12 | youngcereal | markum but he is not on over the weekend |
11:54:14 | youngcereal | ;) |
11:54:21 | zoneout | amiconn: Yeah, but they're a pretty poor emulation of symlinks |
11:54:37 | zoneout | symlinks rock |
11:54:41 | chiefmadness | okay |
11:54:50 | chiefmadness | wot about u youngcereal? |
11:55:30 | * | amiconn summons t0mas or Bagder |
11:57:18 | youngcereal | chiefmadness: i ipod photo |
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13:38:46 | youngcereal | ? |
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13:47:44 | moodelyn | shame about the real names dispute as i'd really like gl.tter's ProgressBar Y coord and enum limits patches for my theme :( |
13:48:50 | amiconn | There's a dependency problem in the uclpack Makefile, but I don't know how to fix it... |
13:49:30 | * | amiconn summos Bagder again |
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14:23:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | What is the define "APPEXTRA", specifically in relation to the make system? |
14:33:39 | safetydan | Should the plugin code reset the font to UI_FONT when a plugin exits? |
14:34:21 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: It's the extra directories in apps/ that the target needs - "player", "recorder" and "gui" |
14:34:46 | linuxstb | In my mind, "recorder" really means "bitmapped LCD" |
14:35:01 | linuxstb | and "player" is "character LCD" |
14:35:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: In regards to pacman, if I put a # before the ifdef APPEXTRA and the endif, suddenly it builds. |
14:36:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was just going to start working my way through various things semi-systematically since I don't really get most of what goes on in a makefile anyway, but that seemed to do it. |
14:36:42 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has no idea if that would/could have averse affects. |
14:40:13 | linuxstb | That's very odd - at least on my system - APPEXTRA is defined in that makefile. Under the "all:" rule in apps/plugins/pacbox/Makefile, can you add "[TAB]echo APPEXTRA+$(APPEXTRA)" to see if it is set to anything. |
14:41:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll try that |
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14:45:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | recorder:gui |
14:47:04 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: That doesn't make any sense then. "ifdef APPEXTRA" should be true, so commenting out that ifdef (by putting a # in front of it) should make no difference. |
14:47:31 | linuxstb | Did you comment out the INCLUDES += as well? |
14:47:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope |
14:47:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only changes I made to the makefile were the addition of the two #s |
14:49:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | And now... |
14:49:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | when I put them back, it works. |
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14:50:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | As in, the makefile's back in its original condition... |
14:50:45 | linuxstb | What if you try a make clean? |
14:51:11 | linuxstb | Or at least, "rm -fr apps/plugins/pacbox*" in your build directory. |
14:51:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: That "it worked with the restored makefile" was in a different build directory, I think. Let me double check |
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14:54:06 | Paprica | linuxstb, could i test the pacman on the h3xx? |
14:54:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Yeah, with a completely clean build directory, it still works. Also, you *may* want to put a boost in it. With the cpu speed patch, it runs at 9fps. |
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14:56:58 | linuxstb | Paprica: There's a build here (I've currently broken the source but plan to either post it to the patch tracker or commit to CVS later this afternoon) - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-h300pac.zip |
14:57:29 | Paprica | 10x, i'll try it |
14:57:58 | linuxstb | Sadly, it's only working at about 50% realtime on the H300. I'm in the process of getting it running on my H140, so I can then try and optimise the IRAM usage. |
14:58:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: what will break if you just throw || CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD || CONFIG_KEYPAD == IPOD_4G_PAD on the end of the button_hold bits instead of creating duplicate ones at the end? |
14:58:52 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Where do you mean? |
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14:58:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: plugin.c/.h |
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14:59:35 | Hyperbit | Hi got Problem with RockBox @ Apple G5 |
14:59:38 | linuxstb | It will mean increasing the plugin API version - it will break the H300 and 4G plugin API. |
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15:00:10 | Paprica | linuxstb, from where do i need to download the rom? |
15:00:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I'm just curious why it would be preferable to have it in different places for different targets? I mean, is there any really negative effect to upping the API version? |
15:00:45 | linuxstb | Upping the API version breaks third-party plugins. |
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15:01:23 | linuxstb | Next time the API structure is cleaned, they can be combined. |
15:01:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gotcha |
15:01:35 | Hyperbit | Any Idea What i do Wrong, The Apple Shows (after i do all wikisteps) only a Directory with a ! an tell me to go to apple.com/support.... :( |
15:02:06 | safetydan | hrm... viewports are likely to require a general clipping routine aren't they? |
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15:03:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: My real concern was just locally anyway. I was pretty sure your answers were going to be exactly what they were, but since your patch didn't apply to my personal build, I decided to merge the lines anyway. |
15:03:09 | Hyperbit | ? |
15:03:30 | linuxstb | Hyperbit: You did something wrong, but it's hard to guess what... |
15:03:43 | linuxstb | How big is the rockboot.bin file you created? |
15:03:51 | Hyperbit | i try the wikki steps and a automated installer |
15:03:52 | Paprica | linuxstb, from where do i need to download the rom? |
15:03:52 | Hyperbit | mom |
15:04:15 | linuxstb | Hyperbit: If you tried the wiki steps and then ran the automated installer, you have definitely broken it. |
15:04:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hyperbit: When you tried the automated installer, did you first restore your iPod to working condition with the apple restore utility? |
15:04:35 | linuxstb | You should do one or the other (unless you restored your iPod to the factory state between the two attempts). |
15:04:35 | Hyperbit | no seperate.. after crash i tryd the automatic installer ;D |
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15:05:09 | Hyperbit | cause the ipod was killed ;D i reset him to faktory settings... |
15:05:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hyperbit: So, the ipod was working normally (with apple software) before you tried the installer? |
15:06:01 | Hyperbit | yes |
15:07:19 | linuxstb | Are you installing from Windows or Mac OS? |
15:08:33 | Hyperbit | windows :( |
15:08:57 | linuxstb | Paprica: We can't distribute the ROMs. They are the standard Pacman arcade machine ROMs - the same as those used by Mame and other emulators. |
15:09:07 | Paprica | ah |
15:09:08 | Paprica | ok |
15:09:09 | Paprica | =] |
15:09:14 | Paprica | mm |
15:10:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Just a quick question: Is there an easy way for me to rotate the screen the other direction? (I'm left handed). Or would that require more tinkering than it's worth? |
15:11:15 | linuxstb | It's on my list. You'll need to reverse the lcd rendering code to do it in the opposite direction. But that code is a bit cryptic... |
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15:11:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaaah |
15:12:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's hardly a major thing, I was just curious if it was in a state right now where I could just do, say, width-x and height-y and be done with it. :) |
15:13:00 | * | Paprica plays pacman |
15:13:18 | linuxstb | The update loop does the scaling and rotation in one operation, and tries to be efficient. So you'll need to replace the whole loop with one that does the rotation and scaling in the opposite direction. |
15:13:26 | Hyperbit | linuxstb my roockboot is exactly 11.769.856 Bytes |
15:13:31 | linuxstb | Plus reverse the keys of course. |
15:13:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
15:13:42 | linuxstb | Or buy a gigabeat. |
15:13:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or buy a gigabeat? |
15:13:52 | linuxstb | (the screen doesn't need rotating) |
15:14:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah. |
15:14:24 | linuxstb | But you would need to port Rockbox first... So maybe changing the LCD code is easier :) |
15:14:51 | linuxstb | Hyperbit: That sounds correct. How big are your two apple_??????.bin files? |
15:15:42 | Hyperbit | apple 6.455.420 Bytes Broad 5.243.392 Byte |
15:16:56 | linuxstb | My apple_os.bin is 5.879.344 bytes for my 5g. |
15:16:57 | Paprica | linuxstb, veryyyy nice =] |
15:16:59 | Paprica | love it |
15:17:05 | linuxstb | But maybe you have a newer version. |
15:17:09 | Hyperbit | 1.1 |
15:17:14 | Hyperbit | firmware |
15:17:24 | linuxstb | I'm probably still using 1.0. |
15:17:41 | Hyperbit | it wörks |
15:17:44 | Hyperbit | damm... |
15:18:00 | Hyperbit | doing all steps again .. and and it works^^ |
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15:18:16 | Hyperbit | <−−- going crazy |
15:18:28 | linuxstb | Glad it's working. |
15:19:05 | Hyperbit | now i will enjoy directory playing ^^ |
15:19:40 | linuxstb | Paprica: Glad you like it. What FPS is it displaying? The first number is the actual FPS, and "20 fps" is what it is aiming for. |
15:21:09 | Hyperbit | Linuxstb : Supid Q but... i got the G5 only one day... how to shut off the ipod? |
15:21:11 | Hyperbit | ^^ |
15:21:38 | linuxstb | Hold down the PLAY/PAUSE button for about 3-4 seconds. |
15:21:48 | Hyperbit | nice^^ |
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15:22:25 | linuxstb | You might want to read the IpodTips and IpodFAQ wiki pages. |
15:22:41 | linuxstb | Plus the generic Rockbox documentation. |
15:22:53 | Hyperbit | now it woks.. so i will do it ^^ |
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15:30:28 | safetydan | That Will Dyson guy is right. It's a bad idea to pass NULL to dlclose(); |
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15:34:51 | Hyperbit | one q is open... i cant boot to orginal os... what do i wrong? |
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15:36:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hyperbit: You probably aren't holding menu early enough. Try turning it on by tapping the menu button, then *immediately* pressing it down again and holding it. |
15:37:00 | Hyperbit | k .... have to do it fast ;D ure right |
15:37:45 | Hyperbit | thank u all so manny :D |
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15:49:48 | Paprica | linuxstb, it shows 10.5 fps |
15:52:00 | Jungti1234 | hello |
15:52:01 | moodelyn | is there a way to use the simulator without it producing sound? i'm trying to listen to music while testing a WPS |
15:52:41 | Jungti1234 | moodelyn: It has sound already. |
15:53:10 | moodelyn | i don't want the sound, it's messing with my music (in foobar) |
15:53:36 | moodelyn | have to make a silent mp3 i guess :) |
15:53:50 | herz42 | There is a define in the autoconf.h for this, but never switched it off :) |
15:54:06 | Jungti1234 | ah. |
15:54:07 | herz42 | #undef ROCKBOX_HAS_SIMSOUND |
15:54:11 | Jungti1234 | right. |
15:54:19 | moodelyn | thanks! |
15:54:36 | safetydan | not sure if that define works right anymore |
15:58:01 | moodelyn | nope, didn't work |
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15:58:20 | herz42 | didn't buidl, or still sound? |
15:58:27 | moodelyn | still sound |
15:58:35 | herz42 | sad... |
15:58:35 | moodelyn | setting volume to minimum doesn't seem tow ork either |
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15:59:38 | safetydan | volume controls are not implemented in the sim |
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16:08:13 | Slasheri | hmm, i just made some battery measurements and now trying to enable CHARGE_STATE for iriver to display how charging progresses |
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16:18:32 | Hyperbit | bye nice guys =D |
16:18:35 | Nico_P | linuxstb: i downloaded your h300 pacman build and put the pacman ROMs in it, but it keeps telling me i haven't got the ROMs... |
16:18:42 | Nico_P | maybe i didn't get the right ones |
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16:20:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nico_P: Are they in /.rockbox/pacman/? |
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16:20:54 | Nico_P | Paul_The_Nerd: yes |
16:21:37 | Nico_P | i got 4 files, "pacman.6e" to "pacman.6j" |
16:21:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nico_P: 6 files, extensions.5e, .5f, .6e, .6f, .6h, .6j? |
16:21:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, you're missing 2 files |
16:22:09 | Nico_P | hmm |
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16:24:31 | Jungti1234 | hey linuxstb |
16:27:27 | Jungti1234 | linuxstb: Could I test your pacman emulator on h300? |
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16:36:08 | linuxstb | Would there be any objections from anyone to me committing my (GPL'd) Pacman emulator to CVS? |
16:36:29 | crashd | pacman you say |
16:36:33 | crashd | i cant see why anyone would linuxstb ;) |
16:36:55 | _kclaf | i hate pacman |
16:36:59 | _kclaf | please dont commit thx |
16:37:02 | crashd | hehe |
16:37:04 | crashd | o rly! |
16:37:09 | linuxstb | OK, I'll delete it then. |
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16:37:15 | _kclaf | THANKS |
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16:44:06 | lostlogic | relevation! on at least ipod 5g, when the battery gets full, it switches from rockbox usb charge mode to apple disk mode... |
16:44:26 | lostlogic | mustb e some kind of power transition interrupt that we miss interpret or that hides USB mode momentarily |
16:44:51 | * | linuxstb commits pacbox to CVS |
16:45:30 | Jungti1234 | oh. |
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16:52:18 | skwad__ | Jungti1234 : could it be possible that you translate the version changes written on this page : http://ihome.iaudio.com/iaudio_board/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=C08&category=&no=297&bmenu=C&category=67 ? |
16:53:19 | Jungti1234 | wait |
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16:53:49 | Jungti1234 | hmm? |
16:54:08 | Jungti1234 | It already I did. |
16:54:28 | Jungti1234 | no? |
16:54:30 | sharpe | wow... the file i/o functions do not like me... |
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16:56:10 | skwad__ | no you did the prev version |
16:56:56 | skwad__ | or is this the video resume on start and added czech language version ? :S |
16:57:13 | Jungti1234 | It's same. |
16:57:29 | skwad__ | ok, thx, they just renamed the last beta to final ^^ |
16:57:39 | Jungti1234 | ah :) |
16:57:45 | Jungti1234 | ah? |
16:57:54 | Jungti1234 | iAUDIO X5 Firmware v2.10 Beta5 ?? |
16:58:06 | skwad__ | :S |
16:58:10 | Jungti1234 | It's different. |
16:58:41 | Jungti1234 | You linked final version to me. |
16:59:15 | skwad__ | yep |
16:59:15 | skwad__ | no I mean 2.10 Beta 8 |
16:59:27 | Jungti1234 | 8? |
16:59:39 | skwad__ | it should be this here : |
16:59:39 | skwad__ | http://ihome.iaudio.com/iaudio_board/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=C08&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&bmenu=iAUDIO&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&bmenu=iAUDIO&desc=asc&no=297&bmenu=iAUDIO |
16:59:42 | skwad__ | yep |
16:59:55 | Jungti1234 | There is no beta 8. |
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17:00:04 | skwad__ | then they just replaced it |
17:00:21 | Jungti1234 | hm |
17:00:28 | Jungti1234 | then, Beta5? |
17:00:57 | Jungti1234 | Other thing of it added. |
17:03:21 | Jungti1234 | linuxstb: It's nice..:) |
17:05:23 | linuxstb | Jungti1234: The version in CVS is better than the version I gave you - I've implemented a menu for all the Pacman dipswitch options. |
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17:07:34 | tucoz | linuxstb, do you have screenshots of pacbox for the supported targets? I thought I could add it to the manual |
17:08:00 | linuxstb | It's probably a bit early for screenshots - I'm hoping that (especially for the smaller LCDs) we can improve the scaling. |
17:08:26 | tucoz | linuxstb, ok. I could just add a _very_ simple .tex file then |
17:09:09 | Jungti1234 | linuxstb: It looks like a little rough. |
17:09:11 | tucoz | but a lot of plugins do have crappy screenshots as it is now, many of the old ones are not adopted to the larger screens yet. |
17:09:36 | tucoz | cool with pacman anyway, nice work :) |
17:09:56 | Mikachu | linuxstb: the menu doesn't work properly for me |
17:10:10 | Mikachu | when i press select to confirm the entry of ghost names for example, it jumps back into the dialog when i release select |
17:10:22 | Mikachu | but i can press menu to escape after confirming once and reentering and it stays out... |
17:11:00 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes - that's an ipod problem.... |
17:11:07 | linuxstb | A patch would be welcome :) |
17:11:42 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
17:12:04 | Jungti1234 | Can't it take a screenshot? |
17:12:08 | Mikachu | how about entering submenus on press instead of release? |
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17:12:24 | Mikachu | like all other menus do on ipods... |
17:12:27 | linuxstb | It's just using the standard menu code.... |
17:12:32 | Mikachu | that's strange then |
17:13:51 | tucoz | linuxstb, do you know what to do if I have made a 'cvs add file.png' but forgot to do 'cvs add -kb file.png' ? |
17:14:17 | Mikachu | did you cvs commit too? |
17:14:19 | tucoz | no |
17:14:35 | Mikachu | then you can probably cvs remove or delete and readd it with no ill effects |
17:14:35 | tucoz | The files are just scheduled, but not as binaries |
17:14:41 | tucoz | ok |
17:14:44 | tucoz | thanks |
17:14:50 | Mikachu | i hope cvs won't remove the files locally |
17:14:53 | moodelyn | yeah that works, i've done it before |
17:14:57 | moodelyn | rename the file bnefor eyou remove it |
17:15:04 | tucoz | ok, thanks guys |
17:15:10 | moodelyn | you can't "cvs remove" a file that exists locally, cvs will complain (very annoying) |
17:15:25 | tucoz | ok, I get it. I just move them somewhere first then. |
17:15:39 | moodelyn | yeah, rename, remove, rename back and add-kb. sorted :) |
17:16:02 | moodelyn | i wish the cvs client was intelligent enough to notice files *full* of binary data and use -kb automatically :) |
17:16:58 | tucoz | moodelyn, maybe it is possible to instruct the cvs client to add -kb when it adds files with certain extensions |
17:17:07 | moodelyn | it is yeah |
17:17:24 | tucoz | it is ? I should do that then |
17:17:45 | moodelyn | not sure how but i assume it is as some extensions seem to be done automatically at work |
17:18:00 | tucoz | ok, I'll check that out later on. |
17:19:24 | linuxstb | tucoz: You could look in the CVS/Entries file (in the directory where your PNG file is), and maybe add the -kb to that manually before you commit. |
17:19:52 | Mikachu | amiconn: i'm not getting any text in the oscilloscope plugin |
17:20:52 | tucoz | linuxstb, oh, I should check that out as well. But, I moved the files and removed them and then cvs add -kb'ed them now. But next time I'll look into that |
17:22:53 | tucoz | linuxstb, do you know what I should do to get not get utf-8 in the commit message? Now if I write a é, that character is not shown correctly on the frontpage |
17:23:48 | Mikachu | set the encoding in your terminal/editor... |
17:24:18 | XavierGr | wow new Pacman game |
17:24:32 | XavierGr | congrats linuxstb! |
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17:24:43 | tucoz | Mikachu, ok. But, is it important that the commit messages are 'correct' in the sense of encoding? |
17:25:17 | tucoz | nevermind, I found out it was not that hard to change encoding |
17:25:47 | Mikachu | i would prefer utf-8 only in my project |
17:25:55 | tucoz | is ISO-8859-1 ok? |
17:26:01 | Mikachu | but it seems your front page is iso8859-1 |
17:26:31 | tucoz | yes, it is. And I think viewcvs is iso8859-1 as well. |
17:30:30 | Jungti1234 | bye all |
17:31:00 | Jungti1234 | tucoz: Did you speak Korean? |
17:31:25 | tucoz | Jungti1234, no |
17:31:32 | Jungti1234 | ok |
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17:31:59 | tucoz | or, maybe I did. In a past life perhaps |
17:32:11 | tucoz | I don't remember |
17:32:45 | Mikachu | i only know hello is anyong haseyo |
17:33:05 | Paprica | linuxstb, any chance to make the pacman works on 20 fps on h300? |
17:34:50 | tucoz | Sorry to break the bad news to you. Milosevic is dead. |
17:37:04 | linuxstb | Paprica: That's the aim - 20fps on all targets. |
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17:37:26 | Paprica | sweet =] |
17:38:04 | tucoz | looks like the name-discussion on the ml has finally (hopefully) faded out. |
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17:41:34 | safetydan | and the poll score was 57 to 2 |
17:41:56 | Mikachu | that means 2 of the names in the credits file are fake? |
17:42:23 | ghode|afk | there was a poll? |
17:43:43 | safetydan | Mikachu, possibly, it's an anonymous poll so could be skewed |
17:43:52 | safetydan | ghode|afk, yes |
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17:45:17 | imphasing | Is there someone who knows ARM ASM around? |
17:45:18 | imphasing | :) |
17:46:06 | imphasing | linuxstb: BTW, I re-wrote the rotating blitter in ASM, so if you want to use it, (when it gets more refined :P) you can |
17:46:46 | imphasing | (hehe, context == "MAME") |
17:47:13 | linuxstb | How much faster is it? |
17:47:27 | imphasing | Well..."faster". Not loads, that I can tell. |
17:47:30 | imphasing | But it seems a little faster |
17:47:42 | imphasing | it should get faster once I get it more refined though |
17:48:20 | imphasing | Right now, it's a function with 10 (!) arguments, so I'm sure all that memory access slows it down |
17:48:31 | imphasing | I can use some local variables, and get that down to 4 probably |
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17:52:58 | imphasing | linuxstb: I'm using some of the gcc asm code, which is horrible, so I'm re-writing it by hand |
17:53:05 | imphasing | we'll see how much faster it gets |
17:53:06 | imphasing | :) |
17:56:25 | imphasing | When a function has more then 4 arguments, the 5th one would go into [sp, #0], correct? and then if the second was say, an integer, it would be in [sp, #4]? |
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18:02:44 | crashd | hmms |
18:02:47 | crashd | lets give pacbox a spin |
18:02:53 | imphasing | pacbox? |
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18:03:14 | imphasing | oh, linuxstb's pacman? |
18:03:17 | crashd | linuxstb commited pacbox (gny pacman 'client') |
18:03:18 | crashd | yeah |
18:03:25 | crashd | only, im missing a rom or two |
18:03:29 | * | crashd goes off |
18:03:41 | imphasing | You could use the test roms from ipodmame |
18:04:02 | imphasing | crashd: His is just a MAME port as well. |
18:04:11 | crashd | yeah, i know |
18:04:17 | crashd | hmms |
18:04:37 | linuxstb | imphasing: No, it's not a Mame port. |
18:04:41 | crashd | isnt it? |
18:04:42 | imphasing | !! |
18:04:43 | imphasing | WOO! |
18:04:54 | linuxstb | It's an emulator even slower than mame. |
18:04:56 | imphasing | You got rid of MAME? |
18:04:56 | imphasing | :) |
18:04:57 | crashd | heh |
18:04:59 | imphasing | awe. |
18:05:00 | crashd | \o/ ahright |
18:05:05 | imphasing | At least it's not MAME.. |
18:05:08 | imphasing | hehe |
18:05:12 | imphasing | Did you write it? |
18:05:35 | linuxstb | It's a port (from C++ to C and Windows to Rockbox) of PIE. |
18:06:01 | imphasing | Wow...that's got to be rough.. |
18:06:28 | imphasing | Porting windows C++ to another OS I always thought was impossible.. |
18:06:38 | linuxstb | It's relatively clean now, but still needs a lot of optimisation to get it working at a decent speed. |
18:06:54 | imphasing | ah |
18:07:10 | imphasing | BTW, centipede is now working on ipodmame |
18:07:10 | imphasing | :) |
18:07:10 | imphasing | My favorite arcade game.. |
18:07:22 | crashd | hehe |
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18:07:32 | crashd | my romset is corrupt, no mazes ;) |
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18:09:23 | imphasing | I can't beleive the ARM ARM book only has once reference to the ADR instruction.. |
18:11:38 | linuxstb | crashd: If it's any help, I've just added the MD5 checksums from my copy of the ROMs to the Wiki page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPacbox |
18:11:54 | crashd | is that for the proper Midway romset? |
18:12:11 | imphasing | linuxstb: Did you abandon MAME because of the licensing issue? |
18:12:17 | linuxstb | crashd: Hope so... |
18:12:20 | crashd | cool |
18:12:21 | linuxstb | imphasing: Yes. |
18:13:26 | linuxstb | The more I looked at the Mame license, the more I didn't like it. Open source software shouldn't have "no commercial use" clauses. |
18:13:36 | imphasing | Yeah, that bugs me. |
18:14:02 | imphasing | If I release code, I want anyone to be able to use it.. |
18:14:03 | imphasing | :/ |
18:14:30 | earHertz | Actuaslly, I'd prefer that some suit not get rich off something I never got paid for |
18:14:53 | Mikachu | that's when you can sell licenses |
18:14:56 | imphasing | No one ever gets rich off open source software. |
18:14:57 | imphasing | :P |
18:14:58 | safetydan | the mame guys have their reasons... there's a lot of money to be made from arcade emulation |
18:15:05 | Mikachu | since they usually don't want it via gpl |
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18:30:28 | tucoz | I added a section to the ManualHowto. If you want to add/change/do something, please write it down |
18:30:44 | tucoz | The section is 'Work in progress' |
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18:38:41 | Paprica | linuxstb, i found a bug in pacbox |
18:39:23 | linuxstb | Paprica: What's that? |
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18:39:27 | Paprica | it crashes when the music is playing and you start the plugin |
18:47:57 | MarcoPolo | hi ! |
18:48:15 | MarcoPolo | scrolling margins patch doesn't work with current svn |
18:51:11 | linuxstb | Paprica: Thanks. That will be my IRAM usage conflicting with the codecs.... |
18:52:19 | crashd | reyy, my roms checkout now |
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18:54:22 | Paprica | =] |
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18:56:16 | linuxstb | Paprica: Now fixed in CVS. |
18:56:23 | Paprica | ok |
18:56:27 | Paprica | hi eli |
18:56:43 | Paprica | linuxstb, thanks =] |
18:57:31 | eli_sherer | hello |
18:58:01 | eli_sherer | i'm sorry i'm not around anymore i'm in commanders course in the army |
18:58:24 | eli_sherer | i'm finishing in two weeks... |
18:59:35 | eli_sherer | Is there a way to check the ultimate FPS rate of a tagrat? |
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19:01:54 | linuxstb | The FPS doing what? Do you just mean the raw lcd_update() speed? |
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19:06:27 | eli_sherer | linuxstb: yes (for your last answer/question). |
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19:07:31 | linuxstb | There is a test_fps.c plugin here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/test_fps.c (I didn't write it) |
19:08:31 | MarcoPolo | the databox plugins seems no to work on ipod, is it normal ? |
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19:11:53 | eli_sherer | linuxstb: have you tested it? (any interesting results |
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19:46:52 | amiconn_ | linuxstb: Putting one function in two places just to not break api backwards compatibility is silly imho |
19:47:15 | amiconn_ | If we need to break compatibility, then break it |
19:47:36 | amiconn_ | I did the same just today, when removing lcd_roll() |
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19:48:45 | moodelyn | are the %dN tags (parts of the directory path) known to be broken? don't seem to work in the sim at least. |
19:49:15 | Mikachu | i have %d1 in my wps and it seems to work fine |
19:49:20 | crashd | where are the .rock sources kept? |
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19:49:56 | moodelyn | oh hang on i'm being stupid, i've got my test files in the root dir... nothing to see here! look over there! |
19:50:16 | Mikachu | crashd: in cvs |
19:50:32 | amiconn_ | Mikachu: What text did you expect in oscilloscope? |
19:50:47 | amiconn_ | Vertical mode has speed messages the same way as oscillograph had |
19:50:52 | Mikachu | the one the code wants to print |
19:50:59 | Mikachu | i don't get any text when i change speeds |
19:51:02 | amiconn_ | Horizontal mode doesn't have any messages |
19:51:03 | crashd | doik |
19:51:06 | Mikachu | oh |
19:51:21 | amiconn_ | ...as there are no vertical text functions |
19:51:24 | Mikachu | wouldn't it be possible when using the scanning yellow line? |
19:52:56 | amiconn_ | How? |
19:53:03 | amiconn_ | Btw, the line is supposed to be red... |
19:53:07 | Mikachu | yeah i forgot |
19:53:18 | Mikachu | just print it and when the line comes it's erased i guess.. |
19:53:26 | Mikachu | maybe keep it around one or two scans |
19:53:40 | Mikachu | i don't really have any idea how that stuff works though :) |
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19:55:09 | amiconn_ | Well we could just print the message horizontally, but (1) that won't give a close association to the point of speed change |
19:55:21 | Slasheri | Hmm, would you prefer a setting to enable/disable the animated charging indicator on targets where we can display more excact information about how charging progresses or just disable the animated indicator entirely? |
19:55:35 | amiconn_ | and (2) we can only ever print to the left of the scanning cursor to avoid immediate overwriting |
19:56:10 | amiconn_ | So, if the cursor is near the left side, the message might not fit |
19:56:29 | amiconn_ | Maybe just print the number w/o "Speed:" in front |
19:56:38 | Mikachu | in the one mode where text is printed, i get it printed at the top and it scrolls off right away |
19:57:04 | Mikachu | oh wait, maybe i changed something when i poked at the text |
19:57:31 | amiconn_ | In vertical mode the text is printed just above the cursor, or at the very bottom of the screen when in scrolling mode |
19:57:35 | crashd | is there any way to easily build a single plugin, rather than using the global make? |
19:57:44 | crashd | i had a look on the wiki, but i didnt see much |
19:57:49 | Mikachu | ah, it was my own fault |
19:57:59 | Mikachu | i changed it back but i never copied the .rock :) |
19:58:37 | amiconn_ | Slasheri: Charging state reporting is rather inaccurate no matter what cell type |
19:58:58 | amiconn_ | It's something like an educated guess for LiIon, and close to nonsense for NiMH |
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20:00:40 | Slasheri | amiconn_: yep, possible. But while charging with constant current, shouldn't the level be somewhat linear until we reach the trickle charge point (about 90% fully charged)? |
20:01:05 | Slasheri | at least we can show the charge level 0-100% until that point (just trying some calibrations) |
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20:08:23 | Pieter_ | neat, chess on rockbox :) |
20:08:49 | Pieter_ | but is it me or is rockbox getting quite a lot bigger and eating quite a lot more memory, even with rombox? |
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20:20:47 | Slasheri | amiconn_: in fact, it seems that charging state reporting seems to be quite accurate |
20:21:29 | Slasheri | after a few minutes (2-3 min.) after charger has been inserted, the level will be about same as before charger and will stay there and rise slowly |
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20:24:48 | tucoz | Sorry for the off-topic, but this is a quite fun project. http://www.bytereef.org/m4_project.html . Help with decrypting messages encrypted with enigma during WWII. |
20:26:58 | XavierGr | Slasheri any news on tagcache? |
20:30:45 | Slasheri | XavierGr: no, but you will hear when something happens :) I will need to rewrite one big function to get it work properly |
20:31:27 | XavierGr | nice, just asking because that will be quite a neat feature. |
20:31:39 | Slasheri | but that charging indicator looks really promising now :) |
20:31:46 | XavierGr | hehe |
20:32:30 | muesliii | XavierGr sorry to remind you..but what was wrong with ur h340 when u sent it to iriver? |
20:32:37 | Slasheri | before inserting charger, the battery level was about 55%. Now after 10 minutes it shows up 60% so that calibration seems to be working |
20:33:07 | muesliii | hi Slasheri |
20:33:17 | Slasheri | hi muesliii :) |
20:33:40 | tucoz | Slasheri, nice. Is that h1xx your'e running? |
20:33:42 | muesliii | sorry for kimi ;) |
20:33:45 | Slasheri | tucoz: yep |
20:33:53 | tucoz | cool |
20:34:12 | Slasheri | unfortunately i have 1900 mAh ionity battery so the calibration can be little different with the factory battery (or maybe not) |
20:34:49 | tucoz | Slasheri, do you want me to try something on the stock-battery? |
20:34:55 | XavierGr | muesli you called? |
20:35:03 | muesliii | yepp |
20:35:06 | muesliii | XavierGr sorry to remind you..but what was wrong with ur h340 when u sent it to iriver? |
20:35:08 | XavierGr | ah it was the USB OTG |
20:35:16 | Slasheri | tucoz: that sounds great :) would you like to have a patch? |
20:35:17 | muesliii | it wasnt working? |
20:35:20 | XavierGr | yes |
20:35:25 | tucoz | Slasheri, yes please :) |
20:35:27 | XavierGr | I always get the message about overcurrent |
20:35:34 | Slasheri | tucoz: just a moment :) |
20:35:50 | muesliii | and u pointed out that clearly? |
20:35:58 | XavierGr | so I sent the unit to iriver. And they sent it back without repairing it. |
20:36:08 | muesliii | how long took it? |
20:36:13 | XavierGr | Then I sent it there again, and I am still waiting for it.... |
20:36:38 | muesliii | how long took it since they returned it in the 1sat time? |
20:36:55 | XavierGr | 4-5 days to sent it to them. 10-15 to get it back |
20:37:01 | muesliii | wow |
20:37:10 | muesliii | thats FAST anyway |
20:37:27 | muesliii | they say 3-x weeks are standard |
20:37:27 | XavierGr | 10-15 days and they didn't fix it though |
20:37:54 | XavierGr | on 02-Feb-2006 I sent the player |
20:38:07 | Slasheri | tucoz: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/charging_status_reporting.patch |
20:38:18 | XavierGr | on 2006-02-06 they got it. |
20:38:27 | Slasheri | tucoz: please try and see if the battery levels looks sane while charging/discharging :) |
20:38:47 | XavierGr | on 10 Feb 2006 they sent it back. |
20:39:14 | XavierGr | on 21-Feb-2006 I received it. |
20:39:27 | muesliii | fast....though they didnt sort it out |
20:39:31 | XavierGr | and then send it again on 25 or 28 I am not sure. |
20:42:17 | tucoz | Slasheri, thanks |
20:42:40 | crashd | hmm |
20:42:49 | crashd | is there any sample, simple plugin examples floating around? |
20:42:57 | tucoz | crash, helloworld? |
20:43:04 | crashd | i mean a bit up from that |
20:43:10 | tucoz | snow perhaps |
20:43:10 | moodelyn | anyone know a trick to make text draw on top of graphics in a WPS? |
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20:46:48 | tucoz | Slasheri, do I just look for battery levels in debug-info somewhere? |
20:47:28 | moodelyn | http://www.nudel.dsl.pipex.com/rbt_doh.png <−− /me cries :-( |
20:47:41 | Slasheri | tucoz: checking the battery icon on the statusbar should be enough :) |
20:48:31 | tucoz | ok |
20:49:24 | tucoz | So I just leave it charging for a while, and see what the level is after that |
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20:51:12 | Slasheri | tucoz: that sounds good |
20:52:51 | tucoz | So you measure the voltage during the charging and reflect that on the battery-icon? |
20:53:55 | Slasheri | yep, it looks at different scale while charging |
20:53:57 | crashd | ohh |
20:53:59 | crashd | that's a nice wps |
20:54:05 | tucoz | (I am not really an electronics person) :-) |
20:54:14 | crashd | moodelyn: is that on the wps? |
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20:54:21 | moodelyn | nah i'm still making it |
20:54:27 | crashd | looking good mate |
20:54:32 | moodelyn | dunno what to do with the volume text though :( heh |
20:55:25 | Slasheri | in fact, it can still show about 5-10% too much charge while charging (because we don't really know when the battery is actually 100% charged, only when it has ~90% charge). But i think it's nicer if the charge bar still goes to 100% |
20:55:34 | crashd | moodelyn: move it up ? |
20:55:35 | crashd | i dunno |
20:55:42 | crashd | what do you mean? |
20:55:49 | Slasheri | or maybe it could be better if the indicator would stop at 90% and then animate between 90-100% |
20:56:36 | moodelyn | i want the -xxdb label drawn on top of the volume bar below it (the glow of the bar overlaps with the label) but i don't think i can control the z-order of things |
20:56:42 | moodelyn | seems graphics are always drawn on top of text |
20:56:59 | crashd | ahh right |
20:57:04 | crashd | i see now |
20:57:06 | moodelyn | can't move the label up, except up a while line of text which is too far |
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20:57:28 | tucoz | Slasheri, I think (!) it looks good. My battery was at 3.88 V when I started. Now, 8 minutes later it's 4.12. The level in the icon jumped maybe two pixels when I detached the charger. |
20:57:42 | tucoz | And now it's at 4.00 |
20:57:49 | crashd | moodelyn: move it up a bit then? i dunno dude |
20:57:56 | crashd | paste the WPS somewhere and ill take a look if you'd like |
20:58:29 | tucoz | And the battery level is back where it where right before I detached the charger. |
20:58:34 | tucoz | *were |
20:58:52 | Slasheri | tucoz: that sounds quite good :) |
20:59:15 | Jury | Does anyone know how to install Rockbox on the 5G? |
20:59:21 | Slasheri | probably i will still adjust that indicator a bit and add the remaining few percents animated |
20:59:27 | crashd | Jury: follow the wiki guide |
20:59:31 | crashd | it's very simple |
20:59:36 | Jury | im just wonder do you do it in |
20:59:37 | Jury | slax |
20:59:38 | Jury | or windows |
20:59:46 | crashd | you can do it easily in windows |
20:59:50 | tucoz | Ok, will you estimate a full charge after some time of trickle charging? |
20:59:50 | crashd | if you follow the wiki guide |
20:59:57 | Jury | kk thnx |
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21:00:00 | crashd | np's |
21:00:14 | sharpe | as soon as i read, "follow the wiki guide," i was reminded of "follow the yellow brick road" |
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21:02:34 | tucoz | got to go, see you |
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21:02:54 | moodelyn | crashd: have a play if you like: http://www.nudel.dsl.pipex.com/Nudel_WPA_temp.zip −− gonna to to the lounge for a bit, cyas |
21:04:24 | Jury | is rockbox really worth it? Or should i wait till a better version with the bugs that are taken out |
21:04:47 | Jury | i mainly want the gameboy ascpect of it |
21:05:31 | crashd | kk, ill check it out moodelyn |
21:12:09 | crashd | moodelyn: does your wps use any none default font? |
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21:12:56 | safetydan | Jury, you can dual boot if you don't like it. But then you'll miss out on gapless, ogg, flac, five-band equalizer, crossfeed, etc... |
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21:46:08 | Bger | wiki spam ... |
21:46:33 | Bger | topic: FelipeIzquierdorbkgk |
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21:50:25 | XavierGr | where can I find a pac man rom? |
21:50:45 | XavierGr | does a mame pac man rom works? |
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21:56:15 | Paprica | XavierGr, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPacbox |
21:56:39 | XavierGr | just saw that, thanks |
21:57:20 | Paprica | :] |
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22:03:19 | XavierGr | linuxstb: is there any intention to make the moving parts of pacbox in h100 more opaque? |
22:04:16 | XavierGr | it is very difficult to see them currently. |
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22:28:08 | lostlogic | linuxstb: did you end up profiling pacman? |
22:29:00 | Paprica | lostlogic, do you have experience with makefile? |
22:29:06 | lostlogic | Paprica: some |
22:30:06 | Paprica | could you make somthing with 3 lists for seperate the games,apps and demos? (plugins) |
22:30:23 | Paprica | or somthing better than 3 lists |
22:30:24 | Paprica | =] |
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22:30:46 | Paprica | i want to do it |
22:31:00 | lostlogic | separate lists inside rockbox, or just in the build system |
22:31:03 | lostlogic | and if the latter, why? |
22:31:04 | Paprica | but i dont have any knowledge on makefile |
22:31:29 | Paprica | mm no, in rockbox |
22:31:54 | lostlogic | then it's not primarily a build system problem, I think |
22:32:04 | Paprica | the plugins list is now long and i think that is it better to have menu with games,apps & demos |
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22:32:50 | lostlogic | I agree. |
22:33:19 | Paprica | =] |
22:33:40 | Paprica | you have other idea how to do it? |
22:33:43 | lostlogic | however I'm not the person who's going to do it, because menus are just not my ball-o-wax |
22:34:17 | lostlogic | well probably I would first setup the menus in code with one of the three owning the existing /.rockbox/rocks folder as it's folder to browse |
22:34:32 | lostlogic | and then creating a set of other folders which may also contain plugins |
22:34:53 | lostlogic | then we could nee dot make some minor changes to the build system to allow plugins to specify what type they are so they get build to the correct folder |
22:34:58 | lostlogic | at least that would be my approach |
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22:39:02 | t0mas | ghehe, nice party song... |
22:39:02 | * | t0mas is now playing: The Bloodhound Gang - Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss |
22:39:17 | t0mas | not irritating hardcore like... but still nice club like |
22:42:13 | Shadowarrior13 | Awesome song |
22:45:48 | t0mas | ghehe |
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22:45:57 | t0mas | this one is nice too, but it's way more trance like... |
22:45:58 | * | t0mas is now playing: Dj Felix Project - On the floor |
22:46:33 | * | petur can't stand this type of music |
22:49:45 | * | t0mas normally preferes (classic) rock |
22:50:01 | t0mas | but I do like some of these tracks |
22:50:16 | t0mas | especially in the car :P |
22:50:22 | petur | t0mas, do you know 'De Mens'? Belgian rock band... |
22:50:30 | t0mas | no |
22:51:10 | petur | well ... they don't tour often in The Netherlands |
22:51:31 | t0mas | have some audio clip on their website? |
22:51:57 | petur | yes - www.demens.be |
22:52:08 | t0mas | (bad name to google on... in Dutch it means: the human, so you find a lot :P) |
22:52:10 | petur | (I created them :) ) |
22:53:00 | t0mas | website? or you're the bands manager? |
22:53:53 | petur | I helped their webmaster a bit, I also mod the forum... my nick there is Luts |
22:54:03 | t0mas | you speak Dutch? |
22:54:06 | petur | yup |
22:54:14 | t0mas | ghehe, funny |
22:54:45 | * | t0mas likes guitar solo's... any song you can recommend? |
22:54:46 | petur | I'm also their number one bootlegger :D |
22:55:21 | petur | they don't do big solo's... |
22:55:47 | t0mas | "in het gras" sounds promising |
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22:57:34 | t0mas | petur... if you speak Dutch, you just have to know this kind of music: |
22:57:35 | * | t0mas is now playing: art-officials vs partysquad - sta stil dan |
22:57:52 | t0mas | and you must hate it if you don't like the other one I had :) |
22:58:06 | Paprica | lostlogic, is this what do you mean? http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.com/menu.patch |
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22:59:17 | t0mas | Paprica: trying to split plugins by type? |
22:59:36 | Paprica | yep |
22:59:49 | Paprica | i can do only the menu thing |
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23:00:07 | Paprica | dont have any knowledge on makefile |
23:01:37 | amiconn | Slasheri: Maybe charging state reporting will work somewhat for LiIon, though I want to point out that we're normally *not* charging with constant current |
23:02:17 | amiconn | Actual usage of the unit will make the charging current vary (sometimes wildly). Disk spinup, backlight going on & off, CPU boosting... |
23:05:00 | * | amiconn thinks the iPod video has too large a screen for a dap |
23:05:14 | Mikachu | it's a dvp too |
23:05:16 | Bger | amiconn it's *video* ... |
23:05:21 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
23:05:31 | Shadowarrior13 | I don't think it's too large, it RUNS DOOM NICELY WHOOO |
23:05:54 | lostlogic | Paprica: yes |
23:06:32 | Paprica | ok |
23:06:38 | lostlogic | blah, we need hold button detect on the ipod 5g. otherwise pacman is a big pain. |
23:07:10 | t0mas | Shadowarrior13: my pda runs it even better... |
23:07:17 | t0mas | surely a good reason to have large screens |
23:07:28 | amiconn | I was looking at http://www.nudel.dsl.pipex.com/rbt_doh.png . Lots of wasted space; this wps doesn't have any more info than my standard archos recorder wps |
23:07:39 | t0mas | games, and Lost/CSI episodes during long travels |
23:07:57 | Shadowarrior13 | My iPod is more sexay than your PDA |
23:07:59 | Mikachu | what happened to reading a good book? |
23:08:18 | amiconn | (well, in fact it has next song info which I don't have |
23:08:18 | t0mas | Mikachu: I only read when I'm in my bed... or in my back garden |
23:08:27 | t0mas | don't really like to read when I'm in a train or something |
23:08:32 | Mikachu | amiconn: i have that on my nano :) |
23:09:24 | amiconn | Linus seems to be hiding ;) Committing stuff in the background... |
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23:17:25 | qwm | ah. the log file. |
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