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| 00:08:11 | Mikachu | wow, this starbox is pretty cool, http://www.origami.cz/Bin/starbox.gif |
| 00:08:31 | Mikachu | it's been a while since i did origame... took me like 15 minutes |
| 00:09:15 | preglow | unasmking the timer2 interrupt just causes everything to hang |
| 00:09:20 | preglow | so it's clear i'm not acking the correct interrupt |
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| 00:10:14 | * | webguest91 lightly curses vim |
| 00:13:25 | preglow | KE KE KE KE |
| 00:13:28 | Mikachu | what did it do now? |
| 00:13:30 | webguest91 | Having \n mean null isn't what I'd have expected. |
| 00:13:33 | preglow | system.c is becmoing a bloody mess thanks to the ipods |
| 00:13:40 | preglow | i added the interrupt handler in the wrong section |
| 00:13:47 | Mikachu | um, it doesn't mean null |
| 00:14:07 | kclaf | heh |
| 00:14:45 | webguest91 | Mikachu: in vim substitutions it does |
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| 00:14:57 | * | petur feels he's not ready yet to analyze disassembly :( |
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| 00:15:01 | DrumRBoy320 | hello everybody |
| 00:15:03 | Mikachu | it doesn't... |
| 00:15:04 | preglow | petur: what'cha looking for? |
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| 00:15:06 | linuxstb | Anyone have any suggestions about how often I should call rb->yield() from pacbox. Currently it's never called... |
| 00:15:12 | preglow | linuxstb: nice |
| 00:15:25 | preglow | linuxstb: it's a pretty empirical thing, just try it |
| 00:15:32 | DrumRBoy320 | does RB for teh 5g iPod 60g support the full 64Mb ram yet? |
| 00:15:33 | petur | preglow: what iriver's doing with regards to usbotg |
| 00:15:37 | preglow | probably a couple of times a frame |
| 00:15:45 | preglow | DrumRBoy320: no |
| 00:15:58 | DrumRBoy320 | thats abummer |
| 00:16:00 | Mikachu | does it need to be that much if audio isn't playing at the time? |
| 00:16:02 | petur | like what is this: move.l #-0x20000001, d0 |
| 00:17:03 | kclaf | I know you guys cant really give ETAs on things or features but is it hard work to get EQ working on Ipod5G along with smooth mp3 playback ? |
| 00:17:38 | preglow | kclaf: doesn't eq and mp3 play together? |
| 00:17:42 | webguest91 | Mikachu: :help sub-replace-special tells me "\n insert a <NL> (<NUL> in the file)" |
| 00:17:42 | preglow | kclaf: it does on nano |
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| 00:18:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | kclaf: What bitrate are your MP3s? |
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| 00:18:07 | kclaf | 192 |
| 00:18:09 | kclaf | or VBR |
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| 00:18:22 | Mikachu | webguest91: oh you mean on the righthand side |
| 00:18:23 | preglow | petur: move.l #efffffff, d0? |
| 00:18:33 | Mikachu | webguest91: just press ctrl-v enter i think |
| 00:18:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | kclaf: Basically, the real problem is just that the mp3 codec needs to be optimized more for arm. |
| 00:18:42 | petur | hmmm is it that simple... |
| 00:18:45 | preglow | petur: kclaf do you mean just when you are adjusting the eq? |
| 00:18:51 | kclaf | preglow : it plays together, but mp3 is not smooth at all |
| 00:18:59 | webguest91 | Mikachu: Ah, yes.. multiline matching is a thing of the devil.. and yes, ctrl-v enter indeed. |
| 00:18:59 | kclaf | no preglow |
| 00:19:04 | preglow | petur: i don't know, that's just from what i'm remembering about two's complement |
| 00:19:04 | kclaf | all the time |
| 00:19:07 | preglow | kclaf: really? |
| 00:19:12 | preglow | that's bad |
| 00:19:27 | kclaf | yea, sound cuts like every 10 seconds |
| 00:19:28 | Mikachu | webguest91: i can agree that is a bit weird |
| 00:19:34 | preglow | petur: god knows why objdump choses to format a constant like that |
| 00:19:34 | Mikachu | i would put \0 as null if anything |
| 00:20:07 | preglow | kclaf: well, no promises, but i'm going to work on optimising mp3 on ipod in a little while |
| 00:20:15 | webguest91 | Mikachu: That's match though |
| 00:20:21 | webguest91 | That is, backreference |
| 00:20:25 | Mikachu | ah yeah |
| 00:20:29 | kclaf | i should perhaps try to use a less complicated theme, could that help ? |
| 00:20:36 | kclaf | im currently using brushed metal |
| 00:20:38 | Mikachu | regexes always make my head hurt |
| 00:20:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | kclaf: A simple theme, and not having a backdrop image, would both help. |
| 00:20:45 | Mikachu | kclaf: try going out to the menu |
| 00:20:55 | kclaf | ok, second |
| 00:21:04 | Mikachu | (i'm assuming the wps isn't drawn underneath the menu) |
| 00:24:25 | kclaf | ok, playing from the menu makes it smooth |
| 00:25:07 | kclaf | i guess i have to use some other theme until mp3 decoding is optimized |
| 00:28:14 | preglow | graphics is too bloody heavy on colour targets yet |
| 00:28:18 | preglow | seriously needs to be fixed |
| 00:29:18 | petur | right, this usbotg will have to wait another week (holiday) |
| 00:29:41 | petur | see y'all in a week |
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| 00:30:01 | preglow | and i have a fading backlight! |
| 00:31:18 | herz42 | on ipod 5g? |
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| 00:31:42 | preglow | yep |
| 00:31:46 | preglow | that is, nano |
| 00:31:49 | preglow | but 5g as well, probably |
| 00:31:58 | herz42 | I'm sure :) |
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| 00:32:30 | preglow | it'll need quite a bit of restructuring before i can commit it |
| 00:32:50 | preglow | the code was heavily h1x0 centric and duplicated code everywhere |
| 00:33:23 | herz42 | so the ipods have a variable backlight, or is it done with pwm? |
| 00:33:45 | preglow | pwm |
| 00:33:52 | preglow | it looks like 4g has some other way of doing it |
| 00:34:05 | preglow | but the good news for me is that timer 2 works |
| 00:34:11 | preglow | and that ipod now has a timer.c module |
| 00:35:20 | preglow | so i'll just commit that part of it now and deal with the backlight later |
| 00:35:49 | herz42 | hmm, atm nothing that desperatly needs atimer comes to my mind, but as time goes by... |
| 00:36:37 | amiconn | grayscale lib on 4g grayscale and lower... |
| 00:37:04 | Doomed9 | hey, is the iriver 120 port still being worked on? |
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| 00:37:34 | linuxstb | Yes - no port is ever finished. |
| 00:37:41 | herz42 | preglow: I did some testing regarding the gpio on ipod 5g. The 8 in 0x6000d824 you have mentioned is insignificant. So using 0x6000d024 has the same effect (at least for me). |
| 00:38:00 | preglow | herz42: not for me |
| 00:38:14 | herz42 | ohh |
| 00:38:17 | preglow | herz42: that is, it depends |
| 00:38:37 | preglow | all the 6000d824 writing i've seen uses 0x100 anded in with the value to be written |
| 00:38:45 | preglow | if i remove that, then it doesn't work |
| 00:38:55 | preglow | however, for 6000d024 it doesn't matter |
| 00:39:18 | Doomed9 | k |
| 00:39:20 | preglow | so there is some difference |
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| 00:39:47 | preglow | ouch |
| 00:39:56 | preglow | backlight fading isn't as smooth as on h120 |
| 00:40:04 | preglow | probably due to the lower clock, then |
| 00:40:15 | preglow | hmm, no, that shouldn't be so |
| 00:40:21 | preglow | the switch interval is way higher |
| 00:40:35 | Doomed9 | hm...i wonder if it will ever play music when u play a rom |
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| 00:42:06 | preglow | when we start using two cores, it should play music whatever you do |
| 00:42:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Yeah, but I think Doomed9 was referring to the iRiver h1x0 port. |
| 00:42:38 | Doomed9 | yea |
| 00:43:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | In which case, it all depends on how well someone manages to optimize Rockboy and the codecs, I suppose. I really don't know how possible/impossible it is. |
| 00:44:34 | preglow | right |
| 00:44:42 | preglow | it's very possible |
| 00:44:46 | preglow | but a boatload of work |
| 00:45:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, it'd also depend on the bitrate of your music, etc. |
| 00:45:02 | linuxstb | Don't forget the audio buffer - Rockboy steals it AFAIK. |
| 00:45:11 | webguest91 | So, rockboy is not very effecient? |
| 00:45:17 | preglow | hell no |
| 00:45:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | rockboy and efficient probably shouldn't even be in the same sentence. |
| 00:45:44 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: wanna test some sweet sweet backlight fading? it'll b0rk your settings |
| 00:45:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: I am *always* up for b0rked settings |
| 00:46:03 | * | JdGordon 2 |
| 00:46:33 | Doomed9 | is there a clock in rockbox? |
| 00:46:36 | preglow | http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/rockbox.ipod |
| 00:46:41 | preglow | Doomed9: depends on your player |
| 00:46:44 | preglow | Doomed9: h1x0 has no clock |
| 00:46:47 | Doomed9 | damn |
| 00:46:53 | preglow | h3x0 and ipods do |
| 00:46:56 | preglow | plus some archoses |
| 00:47:08 | JdGordon | booo!. do a h300 version |
| 00:47:20 | preglow | of clock?? |
| 00:47:31 | JdGordon | of backlight fading |
| 00:47:39 | preglow | amiconn tells me it's not possible |
| 00:47:44 | preglow | backlight is controlled indirectly |
| 00:47:49 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wonders why he just found a rockbox.iriver on his ipod |
| 00:47:54 | Shadowarrior13 | lol |
| 00:47:59 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: i think it's coming out of the closet |
| 00:48:06 | Mikachu | preglow: i guess you already have a nano to test on |
| 00:48:06 | JdGordon | rename it to .ipod and see what happens :p |
| 00:48:16 | preglow | Mikachu: yeah |
| 00:48:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Oooh... nice. It fades nice and smooth and everything. |
| 00:48:28 | preglow | what i put up is a nano binary so... |
| 00:48:37 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: gr8 |
| 00:48:55 | preglow | not h120 smooth, but it works as long as you don't use 10s or anything |
| 00:48:59 | nudel | has anyone thought of allowing escape characters in filenames, so you could keep the free-form structure that files give you, but use all available characeters (like \ and / and ? and .) in names? |
| 00:48:59 | preglow | try that, and you'll see it flicker |
| 00:49:00 | preglow | s |
| 00:49:26 | amiconn | 10sec isn't completely smooth on h1x0 either |
| 00:49:27 | Mikachu | nudel: fat doesn't allow ? |
| 00:49:37 | preglow | amiconn: not completely, but this is a tad bit worse |
| 00:49:46 | nudel | but you could have like [xx] where xx is the hex code and it woudl turn it into ? |
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| 00:49:59 | * | amiconn says goodnight |
| 00:50:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Hey, while you're doing backlight stuff, any idea why "Off" has the same result as "On?" |
| 00:50:05 | nudel | nn amiconn |
| 00:50:11 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: wha? |
| 00:50:14 | Doomed9 | hm...would it be easy to make a clock plugin? |
| 00:50:21 | Mikachu | nudel: you mean the filename would be the actual string [2f] and rb would interpret it as /? |
| 00:50:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Setting backlight to "Off" leaves it permanently on. |
| 00:50:30 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: does it now |
| 00:50:33 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: did it always do that? |
| 00:50:34 | nudel | yeah Mikachu |
| 00:50:38 | Mikachu | Doomed9: why not use the clock plugin? |
| 00:50:43 | Mikachu | nudel: ah, that might be possible... |
| 00:50:46 | Doomed9 | lol im new |
| 00:50:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: I looked at it a little bit, found myself confused. I managed to make it so "Off" turns it permanently on, and "On" permanently off, but couldn't reverse it. |
| 00:50:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: AFAIK, it's always done it on iPod |
| 00:51:07 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: right, then i'll see if i can discover why |
| 00:51:23 | preglow | but not now |
| 00:51:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fair enough |
| 00:52:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | I set mine at 2 seconds anyway |
| 00:52:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | ;-) |
| 00:52:48 | amiconn | preglow: Just one more thought: If 10 sec isn't smooth, then probably something else fiddles with th eport during the fade |
| 00:53:17 | Mikachu | preglow: can i have a diff? |
| 00:53:24 | preglow | Mikachu: the diff is really, really ugly |
| 00:53:24 | amiconn | We had that way back on H1x0, where the fade started flickering like mad when something was drawn on the remot elcd |
| 00:53:30 | preglow | amiconn: and contains other stuff |
| 00:53:39 | preglow | amiconn: it's irregular in a really consistent way |
| 00:54:03 | Mikachu | okay, i'll just wait then, i've fiddled with too many things for a binary to work with my plugins probably :) |
| 00:54:05 | amiconn | That lead me to implement the atomic port bit manipulation |
| 00:54:07 | preglow | amiconn: and why should the other port pins interfere with the backlight one? |
| 00:54:29 | amiconn | preglow: Perhaps some place doesn't use the masked write address? |
| 00:54:47 | preglow | amiconn: perhaps, but in this case i think everything is right |
| 00:54:53 | amiconn | You said this special '8' in the port address doesn't matter - perhaps it does? |
| 00:55:06 | preglow | amiconn: have christi try it out on hers at devcon and have a look for yourself :) |
| 00:55:15 | preglow | amiconn: i've kept it |
| 00:55:36 | amiconn | Yes, *you* have. Is there other code that accesses the same port? |
| 00:55:46 | preglow | ahh, yeah |
| 00:55:50 | preglow | but i don't think there are any writes |
| 00:56:22 | Doomed9 | :( |
| 00:56:27 | preglow | i'll see, the backlight handling needs a lot of fixing before i'll commit it anyway |
| 00:57:08 | preglow | amiconn: and besides, it's only noticable in the very darkest levels |
| 00:57:24 | preglow | amiconn: looks more like pwm steps than port garbage to me |
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| 01:06:30 | Doomed9 | hm...theres no wma support in H120? |
| 01:07:03 | JdGordon | theres no wma support at all |
| 01:07:08 | Doomed9 | :( |
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| 01:07:44 | XavierGr | bins |
| 01:07:48 | XavierGr | oops? |
| 01:07:52 | ashridah | there's been some work done on it |
| 01:07:59 | ashridah | but it's not anything approaching complete |
| 01:08:51 | Doomed9 | kk |
| 01:08:56 | JdGordon | wtf??? ive got this line in a lyrics file for the track im listening to... "−− Solo duet −−" WTF?? |
| 01:09:40 | Doomed9 | hm...i guess its hard to take a wma codec and convert it to w/e rockbox uses |
| 01:10:08 | ashridah | Doomed9: well, there is an opensource one in ffmpeg, but the problem is that it's a floating point implementation |
| 01:10:33 | ashridah | and since the embedded players tend to not have FPU's, anything using floating point math will be far far too slow |
| 01:10:46 | Doomed9 | kk |
| 01:11:00 | JdGordon | do any of the targets have a fpu? |
| 01:11:07 | Doomed9 | if that happend, i wouldnt boot into the iriver firmware |
| 01:11:09 | ashridah | like i say, there's been some work on it, on and off, but it's going to require rewriting it to use fixed-point math, which is a fairly extreme undertaking |
| 01:11:32 | ashridah | it will probably get done eventually |
| 01:11:38 | preglow | bah, tab alert |
| 01:12:07 | ashridah | preglow: did you or linuxstb ever get much done with the partial work that you picked up? |
| 01:12:11 | Doomed9 | i like all of these games |
| 01:12:36 | preglow | ashridah: someone on the forums have started a newer effort |
| 01:12:45 | * | ashridah tends to just transcode wma to flac in the few rare instances that he runs into it |
| 01:12:52 | linuxstb | ashridah: I spent an hour or so trying to understand the ASF format, but couldn't. |
| 01:12:54 | ashridah | preglow: ah, interesting. i haven't been reading those in a while |
| 01:13:05 | Doomed9 | ashridah wht do u use mp3? |
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| 01:13:18 | preglow | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3005.0 |
| 01:13:46 | preglow | linuxstb: you think i should commit cpu boost support for 5g ipods? |
| 01:13:56 | ashridah | Doomed9: ogg mostly, some mp3, since there's no value in transcoding it, and i haven't got originals for some of them (got robbed 5 or so years back) |
| 01:14:25 | linuxstb | preglow: I don't like to see the 4g fall behind, but yes, I think it's worth committing it. |
| 01:14:37 | Doomed9 | ogg the same size as wma ?? |
| 01:14:55 | ashridah | i have no idea, they're both lossy codecs |
| 01:15:00 | preglow | linuxstb: k, i'll be glad to have it off my tree |
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| 01:15:16 | Doomed9 | yuea |
| 01:15:22 | ashridah | but i almost never use wma, so i have no idea what its quality/rate scale is |
| 01:15:29 | preglow | it's crap |
| 01:15:42 | preglow | and it's smelly |
| 01:16:01 | ashridah | preglow: you see, that's what i kinda assumed, plus it'd be a crime against nature if i started ripping to wma on a linux system :_) |
| 01:16:02 | ashridah | :) even |
| 01:16:09 | linuxstb | My only wma file is actually quite listenable - it's a 48KHz 128kbps webcast. |
| 01:16:29 | linuxstb | But every other wma file I've heard just gives me a headache... |
| 01:16:41 | preglow | my only wma is a 64kbps file |
| 01:16:43 | Doomed9 | hmm.. |
| 01:16:46 | preglow | and by god, it shows |
| 01:16:54 | Doomed9 | ogg or mp3? |
| 01:18:09 | ashridah | ogg's got a few minor advantages over mp3. firstly, it's got variable frame sizes, so you don't need a dodgy hack to get gapless playback (although said hacks often work pretty well for mp3, and LAME can insert extra info that helps too) |
| 01:18:10 | ashridah | it' |
| 01:18:19 | ashridah | s slightly better in the quality/bitrate department |
| 01:18:33 | ashridah | but not so much so that it's worth reencoding all your mp3s |
| 01:18:38 | Doomed9 | anyway to convert my wma to ogg....without losing anything |
| 01:18:42 | ashridah | (and of course, transcoding would be twice the loss) |
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| 01:18:50 | linuxstb | Doomed9: You can't... |
| 01:18:58 | ashridah | Doomed9: would be impossible, they're both lossy, use the original, lossless, source |
| 01:19:06 | ashridah | or wait for a working codec |
| 01:19:13 | Doomed9 | yeah |
| 01:19:24 | Doomed9 | i dont have a source for most of mine |
| 01:19:35 | * | Mikachu fiddles with absolute wheel for pacbox |
| 01:19:44 | markun | is wma-pro a different codec or just a different encoder? |
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| 01:21:08 | TiMiD | 'morning |
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| 01:21:52 | Doomed9 | o well |
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| 01:22:05 | markun | preglow, linuxstb: I'm trying to figure out the port pin assignments from the disassembled drivers. Found out how the background controller, the touch pad and the LCD CS are connected. |
| 01:23:03 | markun | The touch pad is read as a 13 bit value, with each bit representing one of the 13 touch sensors. |
| 01:24:07 | preglow | pretty lowres compared to the clickwheel |
| 01:25:00 | markun | how does the clickwheel work? |
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| 01:25:28 | preglow | you just get a number from 0 to 95 |
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| 01:25:36 | preglow | describes position |
| 01:25:55 | Mikachu | linuxstb: http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-pacbox_absolute_wheel.patch |
| 01:26:02 | sersport | hi |
| 01:26:13 | Mikachu | linuxstb: it's really playable with that i think |
| 01:26:20 | sersport | I live in Russia |
| 01:26:27 | Doomed9 | ok |
| 01:26:41 | Mikachu | i hear lots of people do |
| 01:26:50 | sersport | where are you from? |
| 01:26:54 | Doomed9 | USA |
| 01:26:55 | markun | ok. Well, at least we can have UP and LEFT at the same time (nice for rockboy) |
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| 01:27:07 | preglow | we're from lots of places |
| 01:27:11 | sersport | city? |
| 01:27:21 | markun | Enschede |
| 01:27:23 | markun | :) |
| 01:27:46 | sersport | Roda |
| 01:28:03 | Mikachu | there's a small town in sweden called enskede :) |
| 01:28:29 | sersport | ok |
| 01:28:48 | sersport | I love ''The Europe'' |
| 01:29:00 | bepe86 | hey, I'm just wondering if it's possible to build the h1xx manual using cygwin, I'm having a few problems with it... :S |
| 01:29:28 | markun | sersport: 'the' doesn't exist in russian, right? |
| 01:30:13 | sersport | yes |
| 01:30:29 | markun | bepe86: the manual will be available for download on the rockbox website soon. |
| 01:30:37 | bepe86 | "−−-! /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdflatex.fmt was written by pdfetex (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)" |
| 01:30:47 | bepe86 | okey, thanks |
| 01:31:23 | bepe86 | I got it to build at first, but got like 100 warnings about missing fonts, and the pdf file itself was blank except for images |
| 01:32:09 | sersport | life in Sweden is good |
| 01:32:14 | preglow | i bet |
| 01:32:25 | bepe86 | in Norway too ;) |
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| 01:32:36 | preglow | yes, i'm not exactly suffering |
| 01:32:48 | bepe86 | too bad you get booze and snus cheaper than us :S |
| 01:32:59 | preglow | woo, another norwegian |
| 01:33:08 | preglow | snus sucks anyway |
| 01:33:16 | preglow | :> |
| 01:33:23 | bepe86 | heh |
| 01:33:47 | sersport | I try to learn Norwegian language |
| 01:34:02 | bepe86 | ah, cool, good luck :) |
| 01:34:31 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i finished 2 levels with the 5 pacmen setting, that's a first |
| 01:34:53 | sersport | mange takk |
| 01:35:05 | preglow | bare hyggelig |
| 01:35:32 | bepe86 | or as we write in nynorsk, berre hyggeleg ;) |
| 01:35:58 | Mikachu | sersport: varför inte svenska? :) |
| 01:36:15 | preglow | Mikachu: wha, you're swedish??? |
| 01:36:21 | Mikachu | tada |
| 01:36:27 | preglow | i thought you were american for some reason |
| 01:36:29 | preglow | god knows |
| 01:36:36 | Mikachu | maybe i was being too annoying |
| 01:36:40 | preglow | hahaha |
| 01:36:48 | preglow | or maybe i was acting the fool |
| 01:37:06 | bepe86 | man, it's this late already :S better go to bed then, see you guys later |
| 01:37:10 | preglow | i have been known to do that |
| 01:37:13 | preglow | bepe86: see ya |
| 01:37:17 | Mikachu | preglow: for the first couple of days i read your nick as preg-low |
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| 01:37:26 | preglow | Mikachu: some people do that |
| 01:37:35 | preglow | and you can continue to do so for all i care :> |
| 01:37:41 | preglow | i used to be just 'glow' one day aeons ago |
| 01:37:46 | Mikachu | ah |
| 01:37:47 | preglow | then i suddenly got this urge to prepend something |
| 01:38:30 | Mikachu | heh |
| 01:38:40 | sersport | Do you visited Moscow? |
| 01:38:48 | Mikachu | now that you all have top secret host masks it's harder to see your nationality |
| 01:39:16 | Mikachu | but i know you're norwegian and linus is swedish |
| 01:39:21 | preglow | Mikachu: it helps on my sexy undercover agent image |
| 01:39:30 | Mikachu | ah, of course |
| 01:40:06 | sersport | I'm russian |
| 01:40:28 | preglow | and the first russian you are as well |
| 01:40:30 | Mikachu | sersport: i figured when you said you live in russia :) |
| 01:40:47 | preglow | a ton of swedes, couple of norwegians, one finn and now a russian! |
| 01:41:34 | sersport | I love hockey, and you? |
| 01:42:01 | Mikachu | i don't like most sports |
| 01:42:35 | Mikachu | preglow: about absolute wheel, someone mentioned an interface to toggle the events mode and the absolute mode.. is there anything more? |
| 01:42:52 | preglow | Mikachu: i don't follow |
| 01:43:00 | preglow | ahh, right |
| 01:43:06 | preglow | no, i've heard nothing more of it |
| 01:43:07 | Mikachu | heh, maybe i talked to linuxstb about it then |
| 01:43:09 | preglow | but i think we need it |
| 01:43:14 | Mikachu | you have the same color |
| 01:43:18 | preglow | hahaha |
| 01:43:24 | preglow | perhaps... |
| 01:43:55 | Mikachu | i've added that it returns -1 when you're not touching the wheel, i haven't put that in the patch tracker yet |
| 01:44:10 | Mikachu | i'm not exactly sure why it works |
| 01:44:29 | Mikachu | since it's only set in the interrupt handler, and that is only called when you touch the wheel.. |
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| 01:44:37 | Mikachu | it works even if you don't press another button |
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| 01:46:39 | preglow | man, wav playback sounds like a bag of shit on ipod |
| 01:47:00 | BHSPitMonkey | why should it? it's the least compressed |
| 01:49:39 | Doomed9 | hm...what other open source wma codecs are there |
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| 01:50:26 | linuxstb | Doomed9: None. We're lucky to have one - Microsoft aren't exactly open with their audio format specifications. |
| 01:50:46 | BHSPitMonkey | does ours not work well? |
| 01:51:00 | Mikachu | it seems we don't have one |
| 01:51:15 | Mikachu | (in rockbox) |
| 01:51:15 | linuxstb | If by "ours" you mean "rockbox" - then Mikachu is right, we don't have one. |
| 01:51:37 | preglow | linuxstb: has wav playback used to work on ipods? |
| 01:51:43 | Mikachu | linuxstb: did you see my patch? it is maybe not so useful yet |
| 01:51:52 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-pacbox_absolute_wheel.patch |
| 01:52:03 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes, it worked fine - I used a wav file when I was implementing audio playback. |
| 01:52:09 | Mikachu | i find it's a lot easier to play when you don't actually have to press any buttons |
| 01:52:32 | preglow | then i've probably messed up wav.c, then... |
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| 01:53:09 | Doomed9 | M$ should be more open, i mean considering most of their stuff is stolen |
| 01:53:21 | | Part sersport |
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| 01:53:23 | Doomed9 | such as their wav header things |
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| 01:55:44 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I think that could be useful. It would be nice if you could update your wheel_status() patch. |
| 01:55:58 | Mikachu | i just have the -1 thing, but i'll update it |
| 01:56:28 | preglow | linuxstb: can you think of anything that uses endian swapping on ipod? |
| 01:56:32 | preglow | aiff doesn't |
| 01:56:46 | preglow | think i'll just do a printf test... |
| 01:56:48 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Could it be combined with button_status()? |
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| 01:57:02 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i tried that but it won't work |
| 01:57:19 | Mikachu | like putting the values 0-0x5f in the top byte in the return value |
| 01:57:28 | Mikachu | but all code in rockbox checks ==, not & for the button value |
| 01:57:49 | linuxstb | Even when using button_status() ? |
| 01:58:02 | Mikachu | i think |
| 01:58:35 | Mikachu | i don't know the code 100% yet so i can't promise anything |
| 01:58:36 | linuxstb | I've just grepped, and in apps/, button_status is only called once, and it is checked using & |
| 01:58:55 | Mikachu | ah |
| 01:59:02 | Mikachu | then maybe yes |
| 01:59:19 | Mikachu | but i think the way i set the wheel value in the int handler is a bit ugly maybe |
| 01:59:34 | Mikachu | but i'll leave that for later |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:01 | linuxstb | It's also used in four plugins - brickmania, rockboy, pacbox and wav2wv |
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| 02:00:15 | Mikachu | pacbox uses & too |
| 02:00:27 | Mikachu | i think brickmania uses case though |
| 02:00:28 | linuxstb | Yes, and I would guess the others do. |
| 02:00:51 | linuxstb | That's easily fixed though. |
| 02:00:53 | Mikachu | or maybe not! |
| 02:01:01 | Mikachu | yeah it uses & |
| 02:01:42 | linuxstb | But I'm not sure if it's the cleanest solution. Maybe a separate wheel_status() is better... |
| 02:01:54 | Mikachu | flyspray really needs a button to search for a 'opened by' |
| 02:02:10 | Mikachu | should be pretty easy to change later if you want |
| 02:02:46 | Mikachu | maybe someone could apply this in the meantime, http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4789 |
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| 02:05:27 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I think the idea behind highscore.cfg is that all hi-scores for all games can be stored there. Brickmania was probably the first game to use it. |
| 02:05:56 | Mikachu | hm, okay |
| 02:06:13 | Mikachu | it only has these contents |
| 02:06:16 | Mikachu | file version: 0 |
| 02:06:16 | Mikachu | highscore: 3502 |
| 02:06:19 | linuxstb | But maybe I am wrong... |
| 02:06:56 | linuxstb | I thought I remembered there being a "hi-score" library, but Brickmania is just using the standard configfile library. |
| 02:07:29 | Mikachu | i'm not sure i like all those state files being in rocks/ either |
| 02:08:02 | linuxstb | No, I was wondering about that as well. |
| 02:08:21 | Mikachu | % ls *~*.rock |
| 02:08:21 | Mikachu | bejeweled.save brickmania.score pacbox.cfg sokoban.levels |
| 02:08:21 | Mikachu | bejeweled.score oscilloscope.cfg snake2.levels |
| 02:08:29 | linuxstb | The configfile library puts them there. |
| 02:08:45 | Mikachu | int new_wheel_value = ((status << 9) >> 25) & 0xff; |
| 02:09:01 | Mikachu | is that different from status >> 16 ? |
| 02:09:05 | preglow | yes |
| 02:09:10 | preglow | the top bits are shifted away first |
| 02:09:26 | Mikachu | aren't they masked away by &0xff anyway? |
| 02:09:32 | preglow | yes, yes they are |
| 02:09:32 | herz42 | and that's doing sign extension |
| 02:09:41 | preglow | herz42: no sign in that one |
| 02:09:49 | preglow | Mikachu: god knows, it's ripped straight from ipl |
| 02:09:52 | * | linuxstb has a feeling of deja-vu |
| 02:09:54 | Mikachu | okay |
| 02:10:03 | herz42 | wasn't the value +- 48 or so? |
| 02:10:08 | preglow | mno |
| 02:10:09 | Mikachu | i'm not going to touch it but it looked confusing |
| 02:10:11 | preglow | it's 0..95 |
| 02:10:11 | Mikachu | herz42: 0-95 |
| 02:10:40 | preglow | Mikachu: i'm not going to beat you up if you discover redundancies |
| 02:11:17 | herz42 | but you make it +-48 with that operation... |
| 02:11:50 | linuxstb | See here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20060303.txt (starting at 02.48.33) for the same discussion... |
| 02:12:04 | Mikachu | herz42: it is 0..95 after that operation |
| 02:12:57 | Mikachu | ah |
| 02:13:06 | Mikachu | i wasn't here then i guess |
| 02:13:12 | linuxstb | My suggestion was to simply to change it to (status & 0x007f0000) >> 16 |
| 02:14:41 | Mikachu | okay, patch trimming time |
| 02:15:01 | Doomed9 | how can i automatically load a cfg |
| 02:16:22 | Mikachu | any thoughts on the partial plugin buffer clearing? http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3022 |
| 02:16:49 | Mikachu | i can only say it works on nano.. but it's worked fine for weeks |
| 02:16:57 | Mikachu | and it should only improve things |
| 02:17:12 | linuxstb | Sorry to leave you when you're advertising your patches, but I need to sleep... Goodnight. |
| 02:17:20 | Mikachu | hehe, no problem |
| 02:17:22 | Mikachu | good night |
| 02:18:06 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 02:19:48 | preglow | linuxstb: that'd be faster to boot |
| 02:19:58 | preglow | shave off one instruction |
| 02:22:40 | preglow | blargh |
| 02:22:53 | preglow | you can't call a function set_cpu_frequency if the freq isn't adjustable |
| 02:22:56 | preglow | why the hell not |
| 02:23:57 | preglow | so be it |
| 02:24:00 | preglow | i'll just add a hack for now, then |
| 02:24:22 | preglow | linuxstb: care to test a 4g build for me before i commit this stuff? |
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| 02:27:54 | herz42 | just to point that out again: if you shift 0x5f to the msb and then right again, it will be sign extended. So the value after masking with 0xff will be 0xdf instead of 0x5f. |
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| 02:28:23 | herz42 | Every original value abobe 0x3f will get an offset of 0x80 though... |
| 02:28:30 | Doomed9 | ill give somebody a cookie |
| 02:28:32 | herz42 | s/aboba/above/ |
| 02:28:37 | herz42 | or so... |
| 02:28:42 | Zoide7777 | preglow: I can test a 4g build (grayscale though) if you still need it |
| 02:28:57 | preglow | i guess grayscale should do the trick |
| 02:29:03 | Zoide7777 | what is the test for? |
| 02:29:44 | preglow | just to check that it works |
| 02:30:23 | Zoide7777 | ok |
| 02:30:36 | preglow | gotta make it compile first |
| 02:31:47 | Doomed9 | is there a beta of the wma or is it still in like pre-alpha |
| 02:31:49 | Zoide7777 | I read on the log that there's a new timer, and that it can be used to make a grayscale lib for 4g |
| 02:31:58 | Zoide7777 | is anyone working on that or is that just a possibility? |
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| 02:32:35 | Zoide7777 | btw... |
| 02:32:42 | preglow | Zoide7777: you'd have to ask amiconn |
| 02:32:47 | preglow | the timer should be alright now |
| 02:32:49 | preglow | at least it works for me |
| 02:32:50 | Zoide7777 | Slasheri: you there? if so, how's tagdatabase going? |
| 02:33:14 | * | Zoide7777 is so impatient, always hassling the devs :P |
| 02:38:49 | preglow | arghgh |
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| 02:38:57 | preglow | i don't get this either |
| 02:39:17 | Doomed9 | cookie? |
| 02:40:11 | Mikachu | wow, i finished level 1 in pacman with only one life now |
| 02:40:28 | Mikachu | in addition to that i implemented a wheel_send_events(bool) |
| 02:41:17 | Zoide7777 | Mikachu: Does this get us closer to the goal of a wheel that sends wheel events as opposed to sending button events like crazy? |
| 02:41:41 | preglow | indeed it does |
| 02:42:05 | Mikachu | it doesn't send anything, but if you ask it, it'll tell you where the finger is |
| 02:42:24 | Mikachu | okay, just confirmed they stopped sending, the menu in pacbox doesn't work :) |
| 02:43:25 | Doomed9 | where is that pacman rom...can i ask that? |
| 02:43:54 | Mikachu | i can only say google |
| 02:44:10 | Doomed9 | any hints on what to type...is it like a mame rom |
| 02:44:26 | Mikachu | it should be six files |
| 02:44:49 | preglow | Zoide7777: www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/rockbox.zip |
| 02:44:52 | Mikachu | pacman. 6e 6f 6h 6j 5e 5f |
| 02:44:54 | preglow | Zoide7777: just tell me if it works at all |
| 02:44:58 | preglow | Zoide7777: should play music, etc |
| 02:45:00 | Mikachu | those names are listed in the source for pacbox |
| 02:46:36 | Doomed9 | pm? |
| 02:47:04 | Mikachu | you should be able to find them |
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| 02:48:37 | Doomed9 | ha... |
| 02:49:00 | Zoide7777 | preglow: sorry, was away. give me a minute... |
| 02:49:16 | preglow | where should the roms be placed? |
| 02:49:48 | Mikachu | .rockbox/pacman/ |
| 02:50:26 | preglow | l33t |
| 02:52:47 | Mikachu | okay, added patch with the wheel_send_events(bool) function, http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4721 |
| 02:53:21 | Zoide7777 | preglow: seems just fine |
| 02:53:48 | Zoide7777 | preglow: except for mp3 playback on vu_meter, which eventually cuts (empty buffer)? |
| 02:53:53 | Zoide7777 | preglow: but i think this has always happened |
| 02:53:55 | Mikachu | using that isn't included in that pacbox patch, but it shouldn't matter very much |
| 02:54:01 | preglow | Zoide7777: that shouldn't ahve changed, no |
| 02:54:07 | Mikachu | preglow: feel free to try it, should make the game a bit easier to play |
| 02:54:53 | Doomed9 | hm |
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| 02:55:36 | preglow | just need to find roms... |
| 02:56:03 | | Quit tvelocity ("Ex-Chat") |
| 02:56:29 | Zoide7777 | Why is the default "Max Files in Dir Browser" so low??? It's always set to 400, so I get "Dir Buffer Is Full!" unless I raise it |
| 02:56:37 | Doomed9 | me 2 |
| 02:56:48 | Mikachu | probably the first targets had that little memory |
| 02:56:53 | Doomed9 | Mikachu u said it was easy ...its not |
| 02:57:30 | Mikachu | i guess pasting an url isn't illegal, if i can find it again |
| 02:57:33 | Zoide7777 | Mikachu: Could there be some #ifdef that would set a higher level for more modern players? |
| 02:57:39 | Mikachu | Zoide7777: probably |
| 02:58:37 | Mikachu | http://www.tombstones.org.uk/~ankman/ |
| 02:58:45 | Mikachu | on the second page of hits for 'pacman roms' here |
| 02:59:16 | Doomed9 | thanks |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:39 | Zoide7777 | none of the recent games (doom, rockboy, packbox) work on 4g grayscale, right? is this because of grayscale lib? |
| 03:05:43 | sharpe | my head does not like me... |
| 03:06:14 | Zoide7777 | why? |
| 03:06:28 | sharpe | headache that has gotten worse after taking medication |
| 03:06:31 | sharpe | eyes hurt |
| 03:06:39 | Zoide7777 | what r u taking? |
| 03:06:47 | sharpe | excedrin |
| 03:07:03 | Zoide7777 | hmmm can't help you there |
| 03:07:06 | sharpe | :) |
| 03:07:29 | sharpe | oh well... |
| 03:07:50 | Zoide7777 | this is the weirdest channel... 93 people in it but quite dead |
| 03:08:26 | Zoide7777 | I suppose we're mostly non-devs who can't wait to hear about new stuff haha |
| 03:08:32 | preglow | aRGJHGJ |
| 03:08:40 | Mikachu | it's night in most of the devcountries |
| 03:08:45 | Mikachu | i don't know why i'm up |
| 03:08:48 | preglow | why the FLAMING hell do those tabs fucking sneak in all the time |
| 03:09:16 | sharpe | well, flaming hell. lets look at that... according to the bible, the deepest layer is fucking ice. |
| 03:09:24 | Zoide7777 | preglow: why is it that tabs are a problem? Isn't it far more convenient to press tab once than to press space a bunch of times? |
| 03:09:40 | sharpe | hes tabphobic |
| 03:09:40 | Zoide7777 | sharpe: according to the bible, or according to dante? |
| 03:09:51 | sharpe | i really don't know, haven't read much of either. |
| 03:09:58 | preglow | Zoide7777: it's a rockbox policy, i think tabs are clearly the best when used properly, but rules are rules |
| 03:10:00 | Zoide7777 | maybe it's both even, i don't know either |
| 03:10:06 | sharpe | okays |
| 03:10:10 | Zoide7777 | preglow: i c |
| 03:10:57 | Mikachu | Zoide7777: you don't ever press tab or space when indenting a line... your editor does that automatically |
| 03:11:12 | sharpe | notepad doesn't ;) |
| 03:11:23 | Zoide7777 | hehe that's true |
| 03:11:28 | Mikachu | coding in notepad is a fate worse than most |
| 03:12:09 | Zoide7777 | preglow: does that latest commit include your new fading backlight ? |
| 03:12:56 | preglow | no |
| 03:13:00 | preglow | that's not done yet |
| 03:15:02 | Doomed9 | preglow he gave us the link |
| 03:15:11 | preglow | know, i'm playing |
| 03:15:20 | Zoide7777 | question: how come ipodlinux came out so long ago and yet it's so behind rockbox in the audio department? i mean, ipodlinux is pretty amazing (you can even run doom & videos in sync with sound on a 4g grayscale), but the *music* functionality sucks |
| 03:15:20 | Doomed9 | oh |
| 03:16:15 | sharpe | lack of audio devs? |
| 03:16:21 | preglow | Zoide7777: because it's not a priority for them for some reason |
| 03:16:33 | Mikachu | hooray, i succeeded: http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-pacbox_xens_revenge.patch |
| 03:16:33 | preglow | Zoide7777: they've got kickass visuals though |
| 03:16:42 | Mikachu | (that includes the absolute wheel stuff too, sorry :) |
| 03:16:58 | Mikachu | http://www.xensei.com/users/jeffm/www/pacman/xens-revenge/ |
| 03:17:05 | Doomed9 | nicceee |
| 03:17:26 | Mikachu | at least some variation |
| 03:17:33 | Mikachu | oops, forgot to fix the bug |
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| 03:18:01 | Zoide7777 | preglow: if only the two could somehow be merged.... (beyond dual-booting) |
| 03:18:13 | preglow | not possible, i'm afraid |
| 03:18:20 | preglow | the approaches are very different |
| 03:18:28 | preglow | we can share code, but that's all |
| 03:19:06 | Mikachu | okay, patch updated with an lcd_clear_display to clear the romset selection menu |
| 03:19:09 | Zoide7777 | preglow: hmm... what if you were to share *more* code? :) though i bet it's not that simple or it would've been done already |
| 03:19:32 | preglow | indeed |
| 03:19:39 | Zoide7777 | red and yeeeelloooow |
| 03:19:57 | preglow | so far, they haven't taken much of our code, but we have done some joint development |
| 03:20:04 | preglow | but they have expressed an interest in our codecs |
| 03:20:32 | Mikachu | i think running mpd in the background is a bit overkill |
| 03:20:36 | Zoide7777 | it would be nice if they could play wavpack |
| 03:20:42 | preglow | i think the entire linux approach is overkill |
| 03:20:49 | Zoide7777 | yeah, probably |
| 03:21:04 | Zoide7777 | though they *do* have kickass visual stuff, as you said |
| 03:21:05 | preglow | on such a limited platform, you can't waste resources |
| 03:21:35 | preglow | gah, red build |
| 03:21:41 | preglow | and i wanted to go to bed |
| 03:22:36 | Mikachu | what will you use the second timer for? |
| 03:22:42 | Zoide7777 | preglow: but we're paying you all this money and yet you complain!! haha |
| 03:22:56 | preglow | that's just the way i am |
| 03:23:59 | sharpe | i don't get paid... |
| 03:24:09 | sharpe | of course, i don't do much, but i still don't get paid for it. :( |
| 03:24:20 | Zoide7777 | sharpe: I don't think anyone is! I meant it as a joke :P |
| 03:24:24 | preglow | i don't exactly get paid either, heh |
| 03:24:27 | sharpe | :) |
| 03:24:34 | preglow | at least not for this |
| 03:24:49 | sharpe | heheh |
| 03:25:01 | sharpe | my mouth is burning. |
| 03:25:40 | Zoide7777 | I bet countless executives would kill for the programming skill & dedication of some of the devs here, and they just can't believe that they do it for no money |
| 03:25:49 | sharpe | yeah... |
| 03:25:53 | Zoide7777 | well, I guess the same goes for most open source projects |
| 03:26:08 | Mikachu | open source is about doing something for yourself, not caring what others think |
| 03:26:12 | Mikachu | no wait.. |
| 03:26:36 | Zoide7777 | though this one seems different somehow... all these people with amazing reverse engineering and low-level programming skills |
| 03:26:53 | Zoide7777 | (low-level as in asm, not as in shitty programmers, heheh) |
| 03:27:21 | preglow | hmm |
| 03:27:27 | preglow | linuxstb: sproing |
| 03:27:27 | Doomed9 | shit |
| 03:27:40 | sharpe | i'm like, a mediocre programmer, but i can do most things i suppose. |
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| 03:27:55 | preglow | i'm just going to have to enable cache and set_cpu_freq in the bootloader |
| 03:28:02 | preglow | since i need to sleep |
| 03:28:09 | Zoide7777 | Mikachu: well, in a way it's true if you think of it! just as there is the "community" thing of oss, there's the "fix it yourself or no one else will" idea |
| 03:28:16 | Mikachu | preglow: i won't think less of you for it, if that helps |
| 03:29:17 | Zoide7777 | preglow: What's the swap32? What will be affected by the optimization? |
| 03:31:01 | preglow | Zoide7777: very little |
| 03:31:18 | preglow | but i just had to do it! |
| 03:31:29 | Zoide7777 | hehe, that's the spirit |
| 03:31:31 | sharpe | i think i'm going to head to sleep... |
| 03:31:40 | Zoide7777 | ok, good night! |
| 03:31:42 | Mikachu | preglow: do you test if your asm code is faster than gcc or is it a safe assumption? |
| 03:31:45 | Zoide7777 | and thanks for the contributions |
| 03:31:57 | sharpe | lol... welcome... |
| 03:32:04 | sharpe | 'night everyone |
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| 03:34:09 | preglow | Mikachu: i'm pretty sure gcc can't come up with anything close to how clever that is |
| 03:34:14 | Mikachu | okay |
| 03:34:23 | preglow | Mikachu: i got that code snippet from an authorised arm book! |
| 03:34:29 | Mikachu | i only know mips assembler, where know is a gross exaggeration |
| 03:34:39 | Mikachu | ooh, impressive |
| 03:34:56 | preglow | sure as hell is |
| 03:35:04 | preglow | damn, it's easy to think when trying to yawn your head off |
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| 03:36:45 | webguest96 | Holy fucking wiki spammers you guys |
| 03:36:53 | Zoide7777 | wooooow |
| 03:36:56 | Zoide7777 | more than 300 reds? |
| 03:36:58 | Mikachu | do you need to be registered to edit the wiki? |
| 03:37:01 | preglow | what the flaming hell........ |
| 03:37:13 | webguest96 | there are like at least 15 wiki spammers |
| 03:37:15 | preglow | now, _THAT'S_ a highscore |
| 03:37:27 | Zoide7777 | hehehe |
| 03:37:32 | Zoide7777 | congratulations!! |
| 03:37:38 | Zoide7777 | you are the all-time champion :) |
| 03:37:47 | preglow | but what the flaming hell is wrong |
| 03:37:59 | Mikachu | trying to use assembler in sim? |
| 03:38:28 | preglow | ok |
| 03:38:59 | preglow | don't code when sleepy, boys |
| 03:39:14 | Mikachu | it's easy to think when you're tired sure, but the results aren't 100% correct |
| 03:39:56 | preglow | ahahaha |
| 03:40:01 | preglow | i pasted the bloody thing in the generic case |
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| 03:40:05 | preglow | someone fucking shoot me |
| 03:40:19 | * | Mikachu hires a hitman |
| 03:40:35 | josh_ | preglow: what's this ASM optimization you were mentioning? |
| 03:41:00 | * | webguest96 shoots preglow |
| 03:41:43 | preglow | josh_: endian swap routine in asm |
| 03:41:48 | preglow | josh_: nothing major |
| 03:41:57 | josh_ | could I see it? (just curious) |
| 03:42:24 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/export/system.h.diff?r1=1.53&r2=1.54 |
| 03:42:36 | josh_ | thanks |
| 03:42:56 | josh_ | heh, that's pretty damn good |
| 03:43:02 | josh_ | 4 cycles, nice. |
| 03:43:09 | Zoide7777 | how long does it take to change themes for you guys? (from the Browse Themes menu) |
| 03:43:14 | Zoide7777 | it takes forever on my 4g gray |
| 03:43:28 | Mikachu | a couple of seconds, and playback stops |
| 03:43:30 | webguest96 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebChanges |
| 03:43:41 | preglow | josh_: not mine, unfortunately, stole it from an arm book |
| 03:44:35 | Zoide7777 | What is the difference between "Playback->Repeat->Shuffle" and "Playback->Shuffle->Yes"? |
| 03:45:29 | preglow | that's gotta be a new record for biggest number of commit posts achieving the least |
| 03:45:59 | Mikachu | Zoide7777: that confused me for a while too, the first one will reshuffle the playlist when it reaches the end |
| 03:46:01 | josh_ | preglow: heh, there's a thing in an inner loop of the LCD update routine for Photo that has to do a half endian-swap (swap the bytes in each hword in a word, aka AABBCCDD -> BBAADDCC) - best I could get was 5 cycles |
| 03:46:20 | Zoide7777 | Mikachu: cool, thanks |
| 03:46:26 | preglow | i'm fairly certain it's possible to do better |
| 03:46:29 | josh_ | I might be able to improve upon that with your code, if I understood how it worked ;-) |
| 03:46:33 | preglow | haha |
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| 03:51:36 | Zoide7777 | bye |
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| 03:51:56 | Doomed9 | hm...should i buy a H320 |
| 03:51:57 | preglow | another red build now, and i'll kill myself in shame |
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| 03:55:31 | Doomed9 | ? |
| 03:57:11 | imphasing | josh_: Half endian? |
| 03:57:12 | imphasing | :( |
| 03:57:17 | imphasing | Why would anyone use that? |
| 03:57:27 | josh_ | imphasing: half (endian swap) |
| 03:57:30 | josh_ | not (half endian) swap |
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| 03:58:24 | imphasing | ah. |
| 03:58:25 | imphasing | hehe |
| 03:59:08 | preglow | YES |
| 03:59:12 | preglow | sleep will be mine |
| 03:59:15 | imphasing | I known there were "mixed endian" computers in the past.. |
| 03:59:18 | imphasing | preglow: Go for it |
| 03:59:19 | imphasing | :) |
| 03:59:24 | josh_ | imphasing: yep, ARC is one of them |
| 03:59:30 | josh_ | the byte order for instructions is 2301 |
| 03:59:35 | imphasing | :( |
| 03:59:45 | imphasing | ..why? |
| 03:59:49 | josh_ | there are good reasons for it, but it's still wacku |
| 03:59:51 | josh_ | *wacky |
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| 04:00:11 | preglow | i wish they just stopped with the endian business |
| 04:00:15 | imphasing | I heard they are trying to make ARC processors have an instruction syntax.. |
| 04:00:19 | preglow | big endian is king, deal with it |
| 04:00:28 | imphasing | Ipods are little endian |
| 04:00:29 | imphasing | :P |
| 04:00:34 | preglow | yes, unfortunately |
| 04:00:40 | josh_ | why? the ARC architecture has mixed 32-bit and 16-bit instrs, so there can be a 32-bit instr straddling a 32-bit boundary, so the proc needs to be able to determine the instr type just by seeing the first two bytes of it |
| 04:01:06 | preglow | gniht |
| 04:01:09 | preglow | gnight <- |
| 04:01:12 | imphasing | Just have a one bit flag on the front of all instructions? |
| 04:01:13 | imphasing | night |
| 04:01:29 | josh_ | preglow: little endian may be weird, but it *does* have some sound reasoning... namely, you can access the same data through differently-sized pointers |
| 04:01:38 | josh_ | *(short *)p == (short) *(long *)p |
| 04:01:42 | josh_ | that's not true on BE |
| 04:02:39 | * | imphasing is reading about a "1 bit computer" |
| 04:02:46 | imphasing | yay for only 2 instructions |
| 04:02:47 | imphasing | :) |
| 04:03:35 | josh_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_instruction_set_computer |
| 04:03:37 | josh_ | (not a joke) |
| 04:04:11 | imphasing | wow.. |
| 04:04:45 | imphasing | You could have a one instruction turing complete language, but you'd have to work with combinations of instructions.. |
| 04:04:48 | imphasing | hehe |
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| 04:11:22 | Mikachu | could you run doom on it? :P |
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| 04:19:27 | imphasing | sure |
| 04:19:28 | imphasing | :P |
| 04:19:38 | imphasing | You'd ahve to translate each instruction to a unary one |
| 04:19:38 | imphasing | :P |
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| 05:34:46 | [z]ollo | Is there *any* way to access my iTunesDB in RockBox, even if I have to convert it into an M3U? |
| 05:37:52 | Mikachu | you can add the iPod_Control dir to your playlist |
| 05:44:09 | [z]ollo | yeah, but then its in random order |
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| 06:59:51 | midkay | wtf.. humungo wiki series-of-spam? |
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| 07:51:29 | Topic | "Rockbox devcon2006 - starts today!" by B4gder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
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| 07:58:48 | Bg3r | B4gder ? |
| 07:59:21 | Bg3r | Bagder ? :) |
| 07:59:56 | B4gder | Bg3r: ?? |
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| 08:00:06 | Bg3r | see the wiki ... |
| 08:00:17 | B4gder | grrrr |
| 08:00:23 | dwihno | B4gder: Too bad I miss out on the opportunity... I'd still like to recommend discussing a configuration overhaul in the group sessions... |
| 08:00:26 | Bg3r | yes :( |
| 08:01:00 | dwihno | B4gder: with all new units utilizing LCD's, widgets and stuff should be used where possible. |
| 08:01:12 | dwihno | Sliders, checkboxes and such |
| 08:01:22 | B4gder | we have a fair amount of suggested topics |
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| 08:01:34 | dwihno | It _will_ be discussed though? |
| 08:01:43 | B4gder | I don't think we should expect too much to actually get resolved |
| 08:01:53 | dwihno | Nah, but discussion is always a start |
| 08:02:02 | B4gder | indeed |
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| 08:02:20 | dwihno | Perhaps someone could record the discussions and later publish it. |
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| 08:02:26 | dwihno | I'd still like to hear what people have to say |
| 08:02:49 | Bg3r | yes, very good idea ... |
| 08:04:16 | B4gder | man they added _many_ users |
| 08:04:35 | dwihno | wiki spam again? |
| 08:04:43 | B4gder | major |
| 08:04:46 | dwihno | :/ |
| 08:05:03 | dwihno | add some kind of image-text verification when registering |
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| 08:16:35 | amiconn | mmoning |
| 08:16:39 | amiconn | *morning |
| 08:16:45 | B4gder | thing is, making it harder to register is not a very effective prevention either |
| 08:17:09 | amiconn | Perhaps verify via email |
| 08:17:12 | amiconn | ? |
| 08:17:45 | B4gder | it would just make them alter the scheme and register one legit user and the edit 100 existing pages |
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| 08:18:20 | dwihno | The wiikness of wiki |
| 08:18:41 | B4gder | but sure, it would prevent automated bots from doing it _completely_ without manual fiddling |
| 08:18:50 | midkay | B4gder, you really think they'd do that? it seems 100% automated, i.e. if they can't sign up with a bot then they won't bother.. |
| 08:19:00 | dwihno | It has to be fully automated. |
| 08:19:03 | B4gder | I'm quite sure lots of it is not automated |
| 08:19:29 | B4gder | at least the add-hidden-stuff-on-existing-pages versions |
| 08:19:44 | midkay | they also don't seem to edit pages, just create new profiles with ads/spam inside them. i think. |
| 08:19:49 | midkay | i highly doubt that there are people that go around manually creating users for things like that when they can run bots to get so many other wide-open wikis.. |
| 08:19:52 | B4gder | some do, some don't |
| 08:19:55 | B4gder | we have all kinds |
| 08:20:42 | B4gder | this last "attack" made all the user-pages with an existing user that doesn't look "spam" |
| 08:20:58 | midkay | B4gder, if you say so... considering the probably tens of thousands of twikis out there, i can't see why someone would come by to target ours.. |
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| 08:29:52 | B4gder | I think they focus on wikis they think rank fine in search engines |
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| 08:36:45 | B4gder | cool morning today... -8C |
| 08:37:42 | midkay_ | "cool"? :) |
| 08:37:55 | midkay_ | maybe a bit stronger of a word would fit better :) |
| 08:37:58 | B4gder | freezing is perhaps a better word |
| 08:38:01 | midkay_ | like, omfg-freezing :) |
| 08:38:38 | t0mas | man... |
| 08:38:41 | t0mas | cool morning... |
| 08:38:59 | t0mas | I still have no drivers license... so I'll have to cycle to work in 20 minutes... |
| 08:39:08 | t0mas | don't really like these temps :) |
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| 08:51:45 | kkurbjun | linusn, I've put a new version of rockdoom up on the tracker, it compiles much cleaner now |
| 08:51:59 | LinusN | k00l |
| 08:52:22 | LinusN | i'll have a look at it |
| 08:53:20 | kkurbjun | great, let me know if you see anything blatant that needs fixing |
| 08:53:38 | midkay | kkurbjun, can your latest version of doom play other wads? i have a bunch of other stuff.. half life, quake 2, etc.. |
| 08:53:44 | LinusN | kkurbjun: sure |
| 08:54:22 | BHSPitLappy | doom doesn't need any special talent to use different wads |
| 08:54:33 | BHSPitLappy | if it can use doom2, then it should work |
| 08:54:41 | kkurbjun | midkay: yes it can, but those wads you listed will not work if they're the gp32 versions, most if not all of the gp32 wads mess with the background sizes |
| 08:55:04 | kkurbjun | this version has all of boom/prbooms mod features though |
| 08:55:10 | midkay | kkurbjun, i think some are. argh.. |
| 08:55:12 | BHSPitLappy | those work on iDoom... |
| 08:55:14 | kkurbjun | so there's alot more mods that will play |
| 08:55:34 | kkurbjun | BHS: I know, it's because they disabled the error checking |
| 08:55:35 | midkay | kkurbjun, if there's another half-life prboom/whatever mod.... i'll be happy. :) |
| 08:55:57 | kkurbjun | if you look on the patch tracker I have a link to the top 100 wads of all time |
| 08:56:02 | kkurbjun | they should play fine |
| 08:58:48 | midkay | kkurbjun, the recent versions sound cool. i'll see if it fits in the standard buffer for the iPod 5g.. |
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| 09:00:00 | midkay | kkurbjun, so i should get rockdoom-src-0.85.zip and.. rockdoom-0.80.diff? |
| 09:00:11 | kkurbjun | midkay: it doesn't work for the ipod yet |
| 09:00:19 | midkay | kkurbjun, oh. in what way? |
| 09:00:50 | kkurbjun | midkay: all the new code messed up something with the ipod's alignment issues so it needs work again |
| 09:01:14 | midkay | kkurbjun, oh, alright. |
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| 09:14:38 | * | amiconn gotta leave |
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| 09:14:58 | LinusN | cu soon amiconn |
| 09:24:17 | B4gder | 24000 points must be some kind of record! |
| 09:24:36 | B4gder | preglow for president! ;-) |
| 09:26:59 | midkay | haha. :) btw.. how is "score" calculated? |
| 09:27:25 | B4gder | errors*10 + warnings basically |
| 09:29:09 | midkay | aha :) |
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| 09:36:42 | LinusN | damn! i dropped to 2nd place... |
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| 09:56:59 | * | [IDC]Dragon had gotta pack this notebook now |
| 09:57:07 | [IDC]Dragon | has |
| 09:57:14 | [IDC]Dragon | cu |
| 09:57:32 | midkay_ | laters [IDC]Dragon |
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| 10:46:34 | bobTHC | hi folks ! |
| 10:50:39 | markun | hi bob, long time.. |
| 10:53:37 | bobTHC | yep.. |
| 10:53:44 | bobTHC | too loong ;) |
| 10:53:57 | bobTHC | too much work last year |
| 10:54:01 | bobTHC | :/ |
| 10:54:23 | bobTHC | hard to have spare time |
| 10:56:12 | markun | And the little time you had left went up in 'smoke' I guess :) |
| 10:57:44 | bobTHC | hehe, to "relax" me i 'll says |
| 10:57:48 | bobTHC | ;) |
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| 11:10:08 | Mikachu | on the ipod, what do you think about making the menu key go to the filesys instead of select? that way you'd need to press it twice to get to the menu but i think that's okay, and it would free up shortselect for something else |
| 11:10:33 | midkay_ | "to the filesys"? |
| 11:11:20 | Mikachu | er yeah, i missed the critical part, this is about when in the wps |
| 11:12:13 | midkay_ | what would be so useful for short select at the WPS to justify having to press menu twice to really get to the menu, and having to press PLAY to get back to the WPS after leaving the menu? |
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| 11:12:44 | Mikachu | that is not decided yet |
| 11:13:03 | midkay_ | i can't think of anything worth that.. |
| 11:13:19 | midkay_ | and anything potentially useful can always go in the long select context menu of course.. |
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| 11:14:00 | Mikachu | well, i was thinking about something similar to what the apple os does, but i want the scroll wheel to not be volume by default |
| 11:14:18 | Mikachu | i just woke up and had the thought |
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| 11:14:44 | midkay_ | why not having the scroll wheel do volume? |
| 11:15:00 | Mikachu | it's annoying since all the other buttons are hidden under it |
| 11:15:26 | midkay_ | .. how is that annoying? that's the design. the buttons are under it always. :) |
| 11:16:14 | Mikachu | for example if you have it in your pocket and want to be able to switch songs, you'll leave hold off, but then the volume will change randomly because the wheel is so sensitive |
| 11:16:24 | Mikachu | and you'd change the volume when looking for the buttons with your finger |
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| 11:16:57 | midkay_ | i never had trouble with the volume changing on its own, unless it's up against something.. |
| 11:17:19 | kclaf | same thing here |
| 11:17:33 | midkay_ | kclaf, same thing as in have had trouble or have not? |
| 11:17:34 | kclaf | i think ipod controls are quite OK atm |
| 11:17:37 | Mikachu | preglow had the same complaint if that helps my case |
| 11:17:49 | Mikachu | but so far it is just a thought |
| 11:17:51 | midkay_ | Mikachu, well, i don't think it's majority rules exactly :) |
| 11:18:02 | Mikachu | no but he's a dev :) |
| 11:18:30 | midkay_ | oooh (hushed audience) :) i'd like to hear ideas, though.. |
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| 11:20:03 | Mikachu | hm, do i recognize your nick from somewhere? it's not in any of my irclogs but it still seems familiar |
| 11:20:25 | midkay | Mikachu, mine? i have no idea.. :) |
| 11:20:53 | Mikachu | okay, i'll let you know if i figure it out :) |
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| 11:36:50 | preglow | how about my score yesterday, eh? |
| 11:37:07 | preglow | not only was it a huge bloody score, but it was also the most stupid commit ever |
| 11:37:59 | midkay_ | preglow, i doubt it was stupider than my untested-on-all-but-two-models color wormlet patch plus the two consecutively worse broken fixes.. :) |
| 11:38:30 | ashridah | that's pretty extreme |
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| 11:39:01 | ashridah | "To err is human, to really screw up requires a computer" |
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| 11:39:47 | preglow | this wasn't untested, but i had to remove the code before i commited something unrelated in the same file, but then i screwed up and pasted in the wrong place when commiting it again... |
| 11:40:16 | preglow | earning a score i hope will be prove me the champion for some time to come |
| 11:41:03 | midkay_ | preglow, oh, you're on.. i think i might "accidentally" delete a few source files when nobody expects it. :) |
| 11:41:31 | preglow | haha |
| 11:42:25 | ashridah | midkay_: the best kinds of errors are the kinds that accidentally screw up scope with a missing semicolon or screwed up/missing header include |
| 11:42:47 | ashridah | those kinds aren't fatal enough for the compiler, so it keeps trying to compile, just to be helpful :) |
| 11:43:17 | midkay_ | ashridah, haha :) can you say "undefined references to button.c"? ;) |
| 11:43:51 | preglow | that's a small error |
| 11:43:55 | preglow | my errors were over 239058239059023 lines |
| 11:44:02 | preglow | which makes a good amount of points |
| 11:44:22 | preglow | but anywho, i've gotta catch a train, later |
| 11:44:31 | midkay_ | preglow, laters :) |
| 11:44:31 | midkay_ | congrats, i guess. :) |
| 11:44:32 | ashridah | midkay_: nah, linker errors aren't a major drama, and tend to be immediately fatal in one hit |
| 11:44:37 | ashridah | the best kinds are the ones in common headers |
| 11:44:37 | Mikachu | preglow: don't forget your ipod :) |
| 11:44:40 | midkay_ | ashridah, hm.. |
| 11:45:30 | midkay_ | i'll just clean it out then. :) delete its contents but leave it.. maybe 20-40 undefined references to BUTTON_* per plugin, not counting apps/* :) |
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| 11:45:56 | ashridah | midkay_: the problem is, it's likely to abort the compilation at the end of the file. |
| 11:46:00 | midkay_ | nooo. |
| 11:46:15 | midkay_ | it seems that the build system keeps going even if some errors occur.. |
| 11:47:01 | ashridah | silly build system |
| 11:47:52 | * | petur recommends ctrl-c :) |
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| 11:52:50 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 11:53:21 | midkay_ | hi Jungti1234 |
| 11:53:33 | Jungti1234 | yeah |
| 11:54:09 | bobTHC | just for fun > http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2006/3/14/175929/544 |
| 11:54:18 | bobTHC | polymorphism explaination |
| 11:55:04 | midkay_ | haha. nice examples. |
| 11:55:38 | midkay_ | HAHA. |
| 11:55:57 | midkay_ | wow.. every book should have examples this way.. |
| 11:56:04 | bobTHC | :) |
| 11:56:13 | bobTHC | true |
| 11:56:45 | petur | lol |
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| 12:00:16 | ashridah | that's quite possibly the first piece of literally arousing code i've ever seen |
| 12:02:55 | bobTHC | :) |
| 12:04:09 | bobTHC | why u dont consider low level ASM hack as arousing ?? pfffffffff ;) |
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| 12:59:16 | petur | another nice example of marketing idiots http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/03/17/verbatim_flashdisc/ |
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| 13:00:46 | Mikachu | wow, 16MB, it almost fits a whole file |
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| 13:44:35 | prh | anyone know if USB OTG is likely to ever work on the H300? |
| 13:46:10 | petur | I've been looking at it and it will stay on my agenda |
| 13:47:11 | Bg3r | prh in short : yes |
| 13:47:20 | petur | I'm still figuring out how the isp1362 is connected to the coldfire :( |
| 13:47:25 | Bg3r | and probably with more support than the original fw ... |
| 13:47:40 | Mikachu | and the nano? |
| 13:47:57 | Bg3r | Mikachu this is very different beast... |
| 13:47:59 | petur | is that host-capable? |
| 13:48:04 | Mikachu | i don't know |
| 13:48:16 | Bg3r | petur probably yes (the USB impl. is all in sw) |
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| 13:48:40 | Bg3r | but good luck finding out where what to write to/where what to read from ... :) |
| 13:48:59 | Mikachu | then i could play pacbox with my gamepad ;) |
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| 13:49:55 | petur | Bg3r: that's not the problem atm, the chip's not responding at all, I get the feeling I need to do something to wake it up |
| 13:50:15 | petur | but I have a hard time reading disassembly ;) |
| 13:51:13 | petur | already found one extra hardware connection... |
| 13:52:30 | Bg3r | petur yeah, i saw that :( |
| 13:52:54 | Bg3r | ":(" for the disassembly |
| 13:56:45 | prh | Bg3r: & petur great news |
| 13:57:09 | petur | still a long way to go |
| 13:57:26 | Mikachu | so theoretically you could copy music directly between to music players |
| 13:57:32 | Mikachu | (running rb) |
| 13:57:39 | prh | aye that'd be nice |
| 13:57:46 | Mikachu | or maybe even the client could be retailos |
| 13:57:51 | prh | the copying mechanism in iRivers fw is rubbish |
| 13:57:52 | petur | and use a keyboard, and stream music to usb speakers, .... |
| 13:58:04 | Mikachu | i messed up the word order there, "maybe the client could even be retailos" |
| 13:58:25 | Bg3r | Mikachu i think that it could be possible even to attach external DVD-ROM drive (for example), selfpowered of course, and to play music from it |
| 13:58:37 | petur | hahaha |
| 13:58:43 | vHs | What I would really like is the ability to copy photos from my camera (like the ipodcamera connector) |
| 13:58:43 | Mikachu | hehe |
| 13:58:54 | Mikachu | yeah that would be nice, apple don't support that for nano |
| 13:58:59 | Mikachu | my camera only has 16MB memory :) |
| 13:59:09 | Mikachu | and no lcd |
| 13:59:20 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsbOnTheGoSupport |
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| 14:02:17 | Bg3r | petur what there ? :) |
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| 14:02:44 | petur | discussion of what we want to support? |
| 14:03:29 | Bg3r | ah, yeah... in fact this topic was started by me .. :) |
| 14:03:43 | * | petur goes looking |
| 14:03:54 | ^BeN^ | Mikachu, where the xobox patch located? |
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| 14:04:26 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-xobox_updates.patch |
| 14:04:36 | ^BeN^ | 10x |
| 14:04:37 | Mikachu | ^BeN^: linus already committed a fix for the backlight issue |
| 14:04:39 | Bg3r | petur ah, you won't see my name there because of the wiki deletion... |
| 14:04:57 | ^BeN^ | i saw |
| 14:05:04 | petur | was just going to give the remark |
| 14:06:13 | petur | I have big hopes in the philips demo program, it looks like it has a usable usbotg stack in source... |
| 14:06:46 | petur | but first we need to be able to access the chip :( |
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| 14:08:03 | Bg3r | yeah |
| 14:08:17 | ^BeN^ | Mikachu, you real name is Mikael Magnusson? |
| 14:08:24 | Mikachu | ^BeN^: yes |
| 14:08:25 | Bg3r | petur do you have any idea how the isp1362.c will look like (API-wise) ? ;) |
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| 14:08:28 | ^BeN^ | ok |
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| 14:13:46 | petur | Bg3r: no, but I want it +/- compatible with the philips demo stack code :) |
| 14:14:49 | Bg3r | hehe |
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| 14:21:12 | ^BeN^ | $ cvs diff -u3 |
| 14:21:13 | ^BeN^ | cvs [diff aborted]: connect to www.rockbox.org(193.15.23.131):2401 failed: Conne |
| 14:21:13 | ^BeN^ | ction refused |
| 14:21:17 | ^BeN^ | blah |
| 14:21:17 | ^BeN^ | =\ |
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| 14:21:53 | Paprica | what happened? |
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| 14:31:46 | XavierGr | wow tomorrow is the big day! |
| 14:31:55 | bobTHC | devcon |
| 14:31:58 | bobTHC | :) |
| 14:32:33 | * | B4gder and Linus is already in place |
| 14:32:43 | B4gder | working on the webcam |
| 14:32:53 | bobTHC | the swedes are in da PLACE ;) |
| 14:32:58 | Bg3r | :) |
| 14:33:06 | XavierGr | :D already? |
| 14:33:11 | XavierGr | It must be fun! |
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| 14:33:40 | B4gder | amiconn called a while ago, he has landed |
| 14:34:08 | t0mas | grrrr.. |
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| 14:34:10 | XavierGr | [10:14] * ,03amiconn,99 gotta leave |
| 14:34:10 | XavierGr | [10:14] *** amiconn has signed off IRC ().,99 |
| 14:34:17 | XavierGr | is that why he left? |
| 14:34:25 | t0mas | yes, and lostlogic is there too |
| 14:34:36 | t0mas | must be flying already... comming from the states... |
| 14:34:38 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 seconds at the last flood |
| 14:34:38 | * | petur also wanted to be there |
| 14:35:06 | petur | even if it was only to bring the beer :D |
| 14:35:18 | t0mas | ghehe, I wanted to listen to the discussions ;) |
| 14:35:33 | t0mas | and meet the rockbox gods... haha... |
| 14:35:33 | XavierGr | I hope that you will take a lot of pics and videos. |
| 14:35:48 | XavierGr | (the rockbox-three) muahhahaha |
| 14:36:19 | Bg3r | the conspiracy team :D |
| 14:36:37 | t0mas | yeah |
| 14:37:56 | * | Zagor is going there in a few minutes |
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| 14:38:29 | t0mas | Zagor: are you working at contactor too? |
| 14:39:10 | Zagor | not at the moment. I'm on temporary leave to work at another place for a while. |
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| 14:39:38 | BoD[] | Hello, world! |
| 14:39:44 | t0mas | hi |
| 14:40:10 | BoD[] | Hey a quick question: what do you guys use for podcasts, and do you know a tool that allows automatic renaming of episodes? |
| 14:40:33 | t0mas | I use juice to download them |
| 14:40:36 | t0mas | and I never rename them... |
| 14:40:57 | BoD[] | sometimes a little renaming is usefull for sorting |
| 14:41:02 | t0mas | but it must be possible to write a small perl script to fetch and rename podcasts... |
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| 14:41:50 | Mikachu | BoD[]: try entering podcast on freshmeat.net |
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| 14:45:54 | BoD[] | i'm gonna endup making my own |
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| 14:59:24 | B4gder | silly webcam app |
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| 15:00:20 | * | [IDC]Dragon wants to see the devcon early birds |
| 15:00:39 | B4gder | I need to write a perl script to do the picture uploads |
| 15:00:58 | * | petur keeps on refreshing the devcon wiki page |
| 15:01:06 | [IDC]Dragon | should take you 30 sec or so |
| 15:01:12 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
| 15:01:21 | B4gder | first I need to get cygwin installed to get a fine perl ;-) |
| 15:01:39 | [IDC]Dragon | or use ActivePerl |
| 15:01:55 | B4gder | I think cygwin will be useful on that computer anyway for the weekend |
| 15:02:16 | B4gder | it sits connected to the projector |
| 15:02:29 | * | [IDC]Dragon forgot to bring movies |
| 15:06:45 | * | lostlogic is in Heathrow, 4000 miles closer to devcon :-P |
| 15:06:56 | petur | wow |
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| 15:08:49 | B4gder | neat! |
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| 15:09:43 | lostlogic | bagh, definitely going to be late... not boarding yet for a 2:15 GMT departure. |
| 15:10:12 | B4gder | lostlogic: you seen the alternative bus suggestion? |
| 15:10:32 | lostlogic | B4gder: In my email, I assume? |
| 15:10:38 | B4gder | nah, on the wiki page |
| 15:10:43 | B4gder | its just a minor change |
| 15:10:52 | B4gder | but may be quicker for you |
| 15:11:13 | lostlogic | I'm supposed to be meeting up with Cassandra at ARN, so we'll figure it out. |
| 15:11:21 | B4gder | ok, goodie |
| 15:11:29 | B4gder | if in doubt, just call |
| 15:11:32 | preglow | you should discuss a better name for bejeweled at devcon! |
| 15:11:39 | preglow | and all the other plugins with 'rock' and 'box' in their name |
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| 15:11:42 | * | preglow still suggests berofled |
| 15:11:52 | | Join needleboy [0] (i=Miranda@85-64-105-8.barak-online.net) |
| 15:11:54 | B4gder | jebeweled ? |
| 15:11:57 | preglow | hahah |
| 15:11:58 | preglow | nice |
| 15:12:15 | XavierGr | lostlogic: how on earth are you online while in heathrow? |
| 15:12:21 | * | preglow guesses wlan |
| 15:12:31 | lostlogic | B4gder: calling probably more difficult than getting online considering the lack of a European cell phone in my pocket ;) |
| 15:12:36 | lostlogic | XavierGr: tmobile hotspot |
| 15:12:49 | | Quit needleboy (Client Quit) |
| 15:12:55 | lostlogic | cost me 5 pounds but it's worth it because I hadn't gotten Cassandra's confirmation of meeting up before I left. |
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| 15:13:09 | XavierGr | ah okay then |
| 15:14:09 | B4gder | lostlogic: sure, we'll be around online as well of course |
| 15:14:23 | preglow | playback on ipod tends to skip very, very occasionally |
| 15:14:27 | preglow | i wonder why |
| 15:14:37 | lostlogic | preglow: slowness, w/o peakmeter it doesn't afaics |
| 15:14:44 | lostlogic | oops, boarding time, see yas later |
| 15:14:50 | preglow | later |
| 15:14:53 | B4gder | see ya |
| 15:15:01 | [IDC]Dragon | lostlogic: where are you coming from? |
| 15:15:05 | preglow | us |
| 15:15:11 | [IDC]Dragon | whow |
| 15:15:17 | [IDC]Dragon | must be expensive |
| 15:15:21 | preglow | take good care of him :) |
| 15:15:38 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll try |
| 15:15:46 | Mikachu | the peakmeter should detect when you're not looking at it and stop redrawing |
| 15:15:53 | B4gder | we bought a US beer for him in case he'd feel home sick ;-) |
| 15:15:55 | preglow | hahah |
| 15:15:58 | * | [IDC]Dragon has to work for another 2 hours |
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| 15:16:43 | preglow | i'd seriously like a couple of beers soon, but i can't bloody taste anything thanks to this cold ://// |
| 15:16:54 | | Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB4E8AF.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:17:03 | herz42 | preglow: with the cpu_frequ patch, my pcm buffer is running frightening low sometimes while running on 30MHz |
| 15:17:09 | preglow | herz42: small wonder |
| 15:17:52 | herz42 | maybe there are some situations where the boost can't make it catch up... |
| 15:18:14 | preglow | sure there are |
| 15:18:24 | preglow | but it works almost perfectly on my player |
| 15:18:32 | preglow | plus, commiting it gives us a good reason to optimise |
| 15:18:39 | preglow | now if i only had time to do it |
| 15:18:59 | herz42 | I just thought as you were mentioning it was skipping above... |
| 15:19:12 | preglow | herz42: it skips something like once every half hour |
| 15:19:18 | preglow | herz42: which kind of makes me think there's some other reason |
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| 15:20:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Yeah, if mine skips it doesn't do it often enough for me to even notice. |
| 15:20:10 | herz42 | you could check if the disk was spinning when it happened? |
| 15:20:13 | preglow | herz42: nano |
| 15:20:16 | preglow | hence no disk |
| 15:20:30 | preglow | btw, i can make it easier to disable the cpu boosting |
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| 15:20:45 | herz42 | hmm, could the loading from flash be an issue? |
| 15:20:51 | | Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
| 15:21:16 | preglow | herz42: hardly |
| 15:21:20 | preglow | but sure, it might |
| 15:21:46 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 15:21:50 | preglow | linuxstb: catch my super leet score yesterday? :P |
| 15:23:38 | linuxstb | Yes. Outstanding work. |
| 15:24:12 | Bg3r | preglow olympic score ... |
| 15:24:27 | Bg3r | i think it'll be a record for a long time ;) |
| 15:24:29 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, do you know if cpu boosting in the bootloader can hurt matters? it seems to work here |
| 15:26:07 | linuxstb | Doing anything in the bootloader seems to upset Retailos.. |
| 15:26:23 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i updated the absolute wheel patch a bit too |
| 15:26:30 | linuxstb | But it's about time I tested the bootloaders again - I'll try and remember to do it tonight. |
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| 15:27:18 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Is it on the patch tracker? |
| 15:27:22 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 15:27:33 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4721 |
| 15:27:35 | preglow | linuxstb: i can't imagine why cpu reclocking should bother it, though |
| 15:27:50 | linuxstb | I'ld like to commit it - and maybe give Rockboy another look. Maybe tonight... |
| 15:28:18 | Mikachu | i'm sure the code can be cleaned up a bit, but i didn't feel like completely understanding the delta calculation handling |
| 15:28:28 | Mikachu | this way i'm sure it doesn't interfere with that at least |
| 15:28:46 | Mikachu | but it still does the full delta calculation but just stops sending the events when you've called the function to disable them |
| 15:29:03 | Mikachu | i also added a pacbox patch (maybe i said that yesterday too) |
| 15:29:34 | Mikachu | oops, that patch has the menu not working bug |
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| 15:32:35 | Mikachu | updated |
| 15:32:51 | Mikachu | it would be nice if you could mark obsolete patches in flyspray |
| 15:36:48 | linuxstb | I thought you could. |
| 15:37:05 | Mikachu | how? |
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| 15:40:12 | preglow | but ok, i gotta go |
| 15:40:23 | preglow | have fun at the devcon, those of you are going |
| 15:40:29 | | Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@dhcp87.contactor.se) |
| 15:40:31 | preglow | wish i could come :/ |
| 15:40:38 | * | preglow vanishes |
| 15:40:40 | linuxstb | You may need to be in the developer group - but just click on "close task" and then give the reason from the list. e.g. "Out of date" |
| 15:40:58 | Mikachu | i just want to mark one of the patches in the task |
| 15:41:15 | Bg3r | amiconn :) welcome here from contactor :) |
| 15:42:21 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Developers can delete attachments. Can you? |
| 15:42:33 | amiconn | hi |
| 15:42:38 | Mikachu | doesn't look like it |
| 15:43:16 | Paprica | linuxstb, i cant too |
| 15:43:30 | B4gder | we have picture |
| 15:44:34 | BHSPitLappy | redesigning the look of rockboy? |
| 15:44:41 | | Quit midk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:44:45 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ |
| 15:44:49 | BHSPitLappy | are the key issues resolved? |
| 15:44:50 | B4gder | go go go |
| 15:45:07 | Mikachu | a very exciting view |
| 15:45:33 | B4gder | hehe |
| 15:46:31 | Bg3r | hehehe :) |
| 15:46:35 | Paprica | haha nice =] |
| 15:46:47 | Mikachu | who's who? |
| 15:47:10 | B4gder | Daniel, Linus, Björn (L to R) |
| 15:47:13 | Bg3r | Mikachu b4gder in front:) |
| 15:47:19 | B4gder | nope |
| 15:47:26 | Bg3r | ah ? |
| 15:47:26 | B4gder | that's Z |
| 15:47:57 | Bg3r | hah the view is very good atm :P |
| 15:48:10 | Bg3r | hahah :) |
| 15:48:14 | Bg3r | hello |
| 15:48:14 | Paprica | lolll |
| 15:48:45 | Mikachu | and what nicks do daniel and björn use?:) |
| 15:48:51 | B4gder | I'm Daniel |
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| 15:48:55 | Mikachu | ah |
| 15:48:57 | Bg3r | Zagor is the other |
| 15:49:05 | Mikachu | okay |
| 15:49:06 | XavierGr | where is the pic? |
| 15:49:14 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ |
| 15:49:17 | Bg3r | is the camera in the air ?:D |
| 15:49:36 | XavierGr | well I just clicked and can't find it. I must be an idiot.... |
| 15:50:36 | Bg3r | heh, let's see where are the cameras ... |
| 15:50:56 | webguest76 | whoa, broken jpeg |
| 15:51:11 | Mikachu | sometimes the page will refresh while the jpeg is updating |
| 15:51:18 | Mikachu | may i suggest uploading to another filename and then mv? :) |
| 15:51:33 | webguest76 | a decent suggestion |
| 15:52:38 | Bg3r | woa, 3 frames in one :) |
| 15:53:29 | XavierGr | where do you see all these? |
| 15:53:39 | XavierGr | the link just shows the regular devcon info |
| 15:53:43 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ |
| 15:53:48 | Bg3r | XavierGr refresh ... |
| 15:53:50 | webguest76 | You must have a cache loaded |
| 15:54:43 | XavierGr | I will try with explorer |
| 15:55:00 | B4gder | firefox seems to cache the redirect annoylingly much |
| 15:55:20 | Mikachu | maybe you said it was a permanent redirect |
| 15:55:22 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: No, not redesigning the look, I meant that I might look at Rockboy and try and resolve the screen scaling issues and buttons. (after committing Mikachu's wheel status patch). |
| 15:55:38 | B4gder | Mikachu: no, it was a html meta refresh |
| 15:55:59 | XavierGr | wow I can see a computer screen |
| 15:56:09 | B4gder | still working on getting a good position for the cam |
| 15:56:12 | * | linuxstb believes devcon has relocated to the nearest bar... |
| 15:56:27 | webguest76 | You need more cams |
| 15:56:33 | XavierGr | and a white board behind it. |
| 15:57:13 | XavierGr | ha you are on windows! |
| 15:57:27 | XavierGr | I thought most of you were using Linux |
| 15:57:41 | B4gder | we're not at home you know :-) |
| 15:57:52 | linuxstb | That's no excuse... |
| 15:57:58 | Bg3r | :P |
| 15:58:06 | Bg3r | haha is this copy of windows legal ? :D |
| 15:58:07 | XavierGr | well I thought you were on 'someone's' home or job |
| 15:58:08 | B4gder | haha |
| 15:58:11 | XavierGr | LOL |
| 15:58:28 | | Nick jborn_ is now known as JoeBorn (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 15:58:36 | Bg3r | now *that* is a good view ;) |
| 15:58:38 | petur | bah, the firewall or isp at work must be caching the page :( |
| 15:58:58 | B4gder | clear the firefox cache and it works again |
| 15:59:03 | XavierGr | and the deskotp is messy. I can see various setup programs and stuff. Who would put on his desktop that? |
| 15:59:12 | B4gder | linus :-) |
| 15:59:18 | petur | I fired up iexplorer (not used in ages) and get the same page :( |
| 15:59:24 | B4gder | ! |
| 15:59:41 | XavierGr | no I fired ie and all seems fine now. |
| 15:59:44 | Bg3r | B4gder here ff 1.5.0.1/gentoo and no problems ... |
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| 16:00:03 | Bg3r | except of a bad jpeg ... |
| 16:00:16 | XavierGr | could you turn the comera to see your faces once more. I missed that. (Or take a pic for others to see.) |
| 16:00:24 | | Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 16:00:35 | linuxstb | Ah, human developers... |
| 16:00:43 | XavierGr | wow |
| 16:00:44 | Paprica | lol |
| 16:00:47 | amiconn | yes |
| 16:01:00 | linuxstb | I haven't spotted any cvs commits yet though. What are you all up to? |
| 16:01:07 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 16:01:09 | B4gder | now we know amiconn at least appears to be human ;-) |
| 16:01:15 | petur | got to run |
| 16:01:15 | Bg3r | :)) |
| 16:01:24 | | Quit petur ("eof") |
| 16:01:39 | XavierGr | who is the guy with the glasses? |
| 16:01:46 | Bg3r | Linus :) |
| 16:01:55 | Mikachu | you need hats with names on |
| 16:01:58 | Bg3r | :D |
| 16:01:59 | B4gder | Linus in blue, amicon to the right |
| 16:02:01 | webguest76 | A huge nametags |
| 16:02:09 | webguest76 | or |
| 16:02:22 | webguest76 | also, you need top not upload in-place |
| 16:02:49 | B4gder | yeah yeah yeah :-) |
| 16:03:43 | webguest76 | :-P |
| 16:03:55 | XavierGr | so Bagder: You are the guy in front? (now sitting next to Linus) |
| 16:05:44 | webguest76 | I think that's zagor |
| 16:06:22 | XavierGr | you have many laptops there! |
| 16:06:57 | Bg3r | B4gder how many webcam hits for now ? ;) |
| 16:08:10 | t0mas | Linus is the bald (sorry :P) guy in front of the cam right? |
| 16:08:20 | XavierGr | AFAIK yes |
| 16:08:41 | * | [IDC]Dragon returns |
| 16:08:44 | t0mas | contactor provided laptops? |
| 16:08:46 | [IDC]Dragon | nice cam |
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| 16:08:50 | t0mas | they all look the same |
| 16:09:23 | [IDC]Dragon | I try to link it from the the wiki page, but the cam link bounces to wiki?! |
| 16:09:29 | t0mas | yes |
| 16:09:31 | t0mas | click it |
| 16:09:32 | t0mas | hit stop |
| 16:09:36 | t0mas | and then ctrl + F5 |
| 16:09:40 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Firefox? Clear the cache... |
| 16:10:10 | [IDC]Dragon | ah |
| 16:10:29 | t0mas | amiconn: who are you? ;) |
| 16:11:00 | Bg3r | amiconn: wave :) |
| 16:11:00 | XavierGr | he is the guy with the glasses. At the rightmost corner, I think |
| 16:11:04 | amiconn | I'm on the far right, the guy with the silvery laptop |
| 16:11:14 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 16:11:22 | t0mas | and who's next to Linus? lostlogic? |
| 16:11:35 | t0mas | oh wait.. |
| 16:11:38 | XavierGr | losltlogic isn't there yet |
| 16:12:02 | t0mas | well... I can't destingish Bjorn and Daniel |
| 16:12:05 | XavierGr | ohhhh wow |
| 16:12:05 | Bg3r | hahaha :) |
| 16:12:08 | XavierGr | rockbox tshirt |
| 16:12:11 | Bg3r | :D |
| 16:12:29 | [IDC]Dragon | I think you can reduce resolution and update rate |
| 16:12:49 | [IDC]Dragon | or you'll have a terrible net volume |
| 16:13:00 | t0mas | [IDC]Dragon... weren't you going there? |
| 16:13:03 | B4gder | we don't do anything useful with it anyway ;-) |
| 16:13:11 | [IDC]Dragon | with a late plane, yes |
| 16:13:19 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm the last to arrive |
| 16:13:21 | t0mas | flying in from? |
| 16:13:25 | XavierGr | I can see an archos device sitting on amiconn's desk |
| 16:13:27 | [IDC]Dragon | germany |
| 16:13:27 | Bg3r | B4gder so now you're the one with the rb t-shirt ? |
| 16:13:32 | B4gder | yes |
| 16:13:42 | t0mas | Linus has no rockbox shirt? |
| 16:13:50 | B4gder | yes he does |
| 16:13:52 | Bg3r | he is WITH |
| 16:14:00 | t0mas | then you're not the only one :) |
| 16:14:10 | B4gder | the one of me and Zagor |
| 16:14:18 | t0mas | ghehe |
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| 16:14:28 | t0mas | you should've gotten a hat or something.... |
| 16:14:33 | t0mas | to mark zagor ;) |
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| 16:14:48 | B4gder | we'll have hats next year :-P |
| 16:14:50 | t0mas | LinusN: happy IRC worked? ;) |
| 16:14:51 | | Part LinusN |
| 16:14:59 | | Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) |
| 16:15:09 | Bg3r | now, we need sound:) |
| 16:15:11 | [IDC]Dragon | Seeing you there, I'm too exited to keep working |
| 16:15:13 | | Join Nico_P [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:15:14 | t0mas | ghehe |
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| 16:15:34 | * | [IDC]Dragon curses HLX flight schedule |
| 16:15:45 | Bg3r | Gentlemen, we want sound :) |
| 16:15:50 | XavierGr | haha |
| 16:15:52 | * | t0mas would have looked rather funny there :P |
| 16:15:58 | t0mas | the small kid on the block :) |
| 16:17:00 | XavierGr | I must make a capture script to take all projected pics. |
| 16:17:02 | Mikachu | i'm 193 cm |
| 16:17:11 | B4gder | I'm 190 |
| 16:17:12 | [IDC]Dragon | is Jens the one with the brown shirt? |
| 16:17:21 | webguest76 | XavierGr: and produce a timelapse video |
| 16:17:21 | t0mas | Jens is the most to the right |
| 16:17:22 | LinusN | that's bjrn |
| 16:17:23 | t0mas | (or was) |
| 16:17:30 | webguest76 | of the place getting progressively more untidy |
| 16:17:34 | XavierGr | there he is again |
| 16:17:44 | * | LinusN points at Björn |
| 16:17:48 | t0mas | 16:17:50] <B4gder> +I'm 190 <−− 175 |
| 16:17:57 | XavierGr | haha |
| 16:18:00 | Paprica | lol |
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| 16:18:05 | t0mas | and just 17 years old... |
| 16:18:26 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 16:18:41 | [IDC]Dragon | behind the walls is the sleeping area, or what? |
| 16:18:54 | t0mas | no, they do the real conspiracy things there |
| 16:18:55 | B4gder | there are more computers there |
| 16:19:00 | t0mas | like renaming plugins... |
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| 16:20:16 | XavierGr | so when the next person is going to arrive? |
| 16:20:31 | B4gder | Christi and Brandon in 2-3 hours |
| 16:20:40 | t0mas | Brandown Low = lostlogic right? |
| 16:20:43 | t0mas | *Brandon |
| 16:20:44 | XavierGr | yes |
| 16:21:07 | t0mas | and Christi is the girl we always forget ;) |
| 16:21:13 | t0mas | "Gentleman we have sound..." |
| 16:21:25 | Bg3r | yes:) |
| 16:21:26 | Mikachu | only man? |
| 16:21:35 | LinusN | ö |
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| 16:22:12 | [IDC]Dragon | the setup looks like for an exam |
| 16:22:18 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 16:22:25 | * | [IDC]Dragon gets bad memories |
| 16:22:25 | linuxstb | With the whole world watching.... |
| 16:22:48 | t0mas | that would be horrible... |
| 16:22:55 | t0mas | B4gder: nice color |
| 16:22:56 | XavierGr | oh nice blueish background |
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| 16:23:32 | | Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@dhcp87.contactor.se) |
| 16:23:54 | [IDC]Dragon | B4gder: I see mostly incomplete frames, while updating |
| 16:23:58 | | Join SereRokR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd074.f.strato-dslnet.de) |
| 16:23:59 | XavierGr | Linus: I can't see any BDM wigglers, screwdrivers or solder irons, near you. |
| 16:24:15 | [IDC]Dragon | perhaps ping-pong 2 frames? |
| 16:24:17 | B4gder | we need to improve the pic upload script |
| 16:24:17 | | Quit SereRokR (Remote closed the connection) |
| 16:24:18 | Zagor | XavierGr: you've exposed his fraud |
| 16:24:26 | linuxstb | I can't even see any DAPs around... |
| 16:24:26 | XavierGr | :-) |
| 16:24:40 | linuxstb | Are we watching the right devcon? |
| 16:24:41 | t0mas | linuxstb: it's called the conspiracy ;) |
| 16:24:43 | XavierGr | I saw an archos recorder (or player) on amiconn's desk |
| 16:25:07 | XavierGr | lol - conspiracy. The word of the month! |
| 16:25:53 | amiconn | Now you can see a H340 and an Ondio FM in front of my laptop... |
| 16:25:54 | XavierGr | that's more like it. |
| 16:26:09 | Mikachu | hooray for google images, http://static.flickr.com/11/13369675_87e3e51fef_m.jpg |
| 16:26:34 | * | linuxstb is reassured |
| 16:26:35 | XavierGr | Mikachu: Good find! |
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| 16:27:35 | | Join ThePR [0] (n=alexnide@host-108.dataart.net) |
| 16:27:45 | XavierGr | I love the armchairs that you have there |
| 16:29:26 | XavierGr | oh shoo, I have to go to work. |
| 16:29:38 | | Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") |
| 16:29:48 | t0mas | XavierGr: close your browser |
| 16:29:53 | XavierGr | lol |
| 16:30:02 | t0mas | don't want to flood the rockbox.org server |
| 16:30:31 | XavierGr | well bye all. Happy hacking! |
| 16:31:09 | | Quit XavierGr () |
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| 16:32:47 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: how much is that airport bus? |
| 16:33:03 | * | [IDC]Dragon needs to change money |
| 16:33:12 | ThePR | i have just installed rockbox on my ipod nano |
| 16:33:15 | ThePR | that's great!!! |
| 16:33:25 | ThePR | wow, guys - you are supermen =) |
| 16:34:03 | Mikachu | ThePR: welcome to the club :) |
| 16:34:06 | linuxstb | ThePR: Have you seen them? http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ |
| 16:35:04 | t0mas | haha |
| 16:35:07 | Bg3r | linuxstb haha u won't help the rb's server this way :P |
| 16:35:19 | linuxstb | No, I should go back to work :) |
| 16:35:35 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn? |
| 16:35:37 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: 95 SEK one way, or 175 SEK both ways |
| 16:35:45 | Mode | "#RockBox +o t0mas " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 16:35:46 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks |
| 16:35:48 | Topic | "Rockbox devcon2006 - Watch the gods at work: http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/" by t0mas (n=tomas@rockbox/developer/t0mas) |
| 16:35:52 | Mode | "#RockBox -o t0mas " by t0mas (n=tomas@rockbox/developer/t0mas) |
| 16:35:58 | t0mas | :) |
| 16:36:42 | [IDC]Dragon | that only holds while I'm noth there yet |
| 16:36:52 | [IDC]Dragon | not |
| 16:37:09 | t0mas | I'll change it to "Watch the gods and their most faithful fellowers at work" |
| 16:37:19 | t0mas | buit that's a little long ;) |
| 16:37:31 | Bg3r | t0mas put the link first :) |
| 16:37:46 | Mode | "#RockBox +o t0mas " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 16:37:48 | Topic | "Rockbox - devcon2006 --> Watch live: http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/" by t0mas (n=tomas@rockbox/developer/t0mas) |
| 16:37:51 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm not a fellower, I'm an Ex |
| 16:38:00 | t0mas | of who? ;) |
| 16:38:08 | linuxstb | An ex-god? |
| 16:38:13 | [IDC]Dragon | sortof |
| 16:38:31 | [IDC]Dragon | you youngster haven't seen my time ;-) |
| 16:38:42 | [IDC]Dragon | the Archos days |
| 16:39:04 | t0mas | B4gder: you should get some control over your brother... he has no rockbox shirt ;) |
| 16:39:12 | LinusN | stop looking at the webcam, my downloads are so slow! :-) |
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| 16:39:44 | linuxstb | Maybe stop the auto-refresh... |
| 16:39:45 | t0mas | ghehe, if you commit something... cut the webcam... or the buildsystem will be slow as hell too ;) |
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| 16:42:45 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, I should get going, too |
| 16:42:59 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 16:43:04 | t0mas | see you soon (literally) |
| 16:43:08 | [IDC]Dragon | cu later, in front of that cam |
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| 16:45:10 | amiconn | t0mas: we will see soon... |
| 16:45:16 | Bg3r | haha zagor :) |
| 16:47:34 | Bg3r | so, B4gder, u're in the right of the cam, just ahead of amiconn, yep ? |
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| 16:51:43 | crashd | they should setup name tag following |
| 16:52:13 | Zagor | crashd: will you hack up a quick script? i promise to install it :-) |
| 16:52:24 | crashd | : ) |
| 16:52:40 | crashd | if you've got a pixel farm application suite |
| 16:52:44 | crashd | on the server |
| 16:52:45 | crashd | maybe :P |
| 16:53:08 | t0mas | don't touch that server... |
| 16:53:13 | crashd | heh |
| 16:53:20 | t0mas | "34 builds in 642 seconds makes 18 seconds/build" |
| 16:53:30 | t0mas | that's almost 2 times the record ;) |
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| 16:55:16 | t0mas | but hey... we've lost a server |
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| 16:56:55 | t0mas | B4gder should hit it :) |
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| 17:02:05 | t0mas | Zagor: where's your rockbox shirt? |
| 17:03:27 | Zagor | on the desk :-) |
| 17:03:43 | LinusN | it's a contest |
| 17:03:45 | Zagor | i figured keeping my own shirt on would lessen the "factory droids" image a bit :-) |
| 17:03:48 | LinusN | find the odd person |
| 17:04:09 | t0mas | haha, it's nice to have the cam... |
| 17:04:15 | t0mas | now I know when B4gder will respond to pm's |
| 17:04:22 | t0mas | see him walking back... and typing |
| 17:04:37 | B4gder | I feel... supervised ;-) |
| 17:04:49 | t0mas | don't move before that server is back ;) |
| 17:05:25 | B4gder | we better move to check the server! |
| 17:05:45 | t0mas | ghehe, if it's on fire... take the cam with you ;) |
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| 17:21:58 | t0mas | LinusN: are the stenberg brothers dead? |
| 17:22:11 | t0mas | burned while saving the buildserver #2 ? |
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| 17:28:24 | t0mas | hi |
| 17:28:26 | linuxstb | Silence from devcon.... |
| 17:28:38 | Mikachu | so, is there any deving going on? |
| 17:28:43 | t0mas | yes... LinusN looks like he's on the phone... |
| 17:28:51 | linuxstb | Ordering pizza? |
| 17:28:55 | t0mas | and amiconn is looking at his laptop as if it isn't working ;) |
| 17:31:11 | t0mas | the webcam is good enternainment when you're bored... |
| 17:31:13 | t0mas | feet on the deskj |
| 17:31:31 | t0mas | slowly reading something and watching the cam |
| 17:31:32 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 17:31:52 | linuxstb | Now LinusN is trying to fix amiconn's laptop... |
| 17:31:57 | t0mas | or his code... |
| 17:32:04 | amiconn | no |
| 17:32:17 | amiconn | I was just looking up the devcon location in google earth |
| 17:32:22 | t0mas | hahaha |
| 17:32:35 | linuxstb | :) So not being any more productive than us then... |
| 17:33:01 | t0mas | productive? |
| 17:33:05 | t0mas | it's almost weekend man |
| 17:33:15 | t0mas | better... it is weekend |
| 17:33:30 | linuxstb | "productive" in a fun, Rockbox kind of way. |
| 17:34:20 | t0mas | well... I like my sleeping position :P |
| 17:34:51 | linuxstb | Supervising... |
| 17:35:14 | linuxstb | The Stenberg brothers survived the fire... |
| 17:35:19 | t0mas | pfew |
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| 17:35:37 | t0mas | :D |
| 17:35:40 | t0mas | the server did too |
| 17:37:16 | t0mas | amiconn is mirroring my position... |
| 17:38:01 | * | t0mas imagines they now know what a fish in a tank feels like |
| 17:39:15 | LinusN | we get that nice big brother felling |
| 17:39:18 | LinusN | feeling |
| 17:39:19 | linuxstb | LinusN: As I can see you are in front of a computer, a quick question about configfile.[ch]. What should the min/max fields be for an enumeration? The .h file implies that they are the min/max values in the enumeration, but the .c file (configfile_load) checks for (val < max) - implying that max should be the number of items in the enumeration. |
| 17:40:05 | LinusN | an enum is always 0..max |
| 17:40:12 | Zagor | build server power supply had died. we just replaced it. |
| 17:40:18 | t0mas | I heard it |
| 17:40:20 | t0mas | server is back up |
| 17:40:22 | linuxstb | LinusN: So the .c file has a bug? |
| 17:40:37 | LinusN | but the meaning of the values is in a separate table |
| 17:40:53 | LinusN | like the backlight timeout for example |
| 17:41:08 | Paprica | amiconn, have you try rockcalendar on your ondio? |
| 17:41:10 | linuxstb | line 109 of configfile.c uses 0..(max-1) |
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| 17:41:19 | LinusN | sounds correct |
| 17:41:28 | LinusN | wait a sec |
| 17:41:31 | LinusN | configfile.c |
| 17:41:37 | LinusN | the plugin ib? |
| 17:41:40 | LinusN | lib |
| 17:41:41 | linuxstb | Yes |
| 17:41:50 | LinusN | it has no enums, to my knowledge |
| 17:42:02 | linuxstb | According to the cvs history, you implemented them... |
| 17:42:07 | LinusN | oh |
| 17:43:00 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 17:43:10 | Mikachu | doh, there is a combobox in flyspray that lets you select only 'tasks i reported' |
| 17:43:14 | LinusN | that was years ago, wasn't it? |
| 17:43:27 | t0mas | hope so |
| 17:43:39 | linuxstb | July/August 2004... |
| 17:43:44 | linuxstb | So yes :) |
| 17:44:00 | t0mas | long enough to forget without being old ;) |
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| 17:57:01 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: I've put up a new version of Rockdoom that compiles with the sim. Unfortunately it doesn't run yet though |
| 17:57:10 | kkurbjun | It should be smaller also |
| 17:57:37 | kkurbjun | I got rid of the -funroll-loops which added quite a bit to the code size without much speed benefit |
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| 17:58:46 | tucoz | Good evening |
| 17:58:50 | t0mas | hi |
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| 17:59:25 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: Did you apply my fixes? |
| 17:59:26 | B4gder | the drinks are in the fridge |
| 17:59:35 | tucoz | Looks like there is something fun going on on that screen Zagor is looking at :-) |
| 17:59:55 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, yep, They're all in, at least I think they are |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:27 | kkurbjun | I'm trying to learn gdb now as I've never used it before |
| 18:00:45 | tucoz | linuxstb, regarding those button macros for the manual. Should I just define a new option in the platform files, and define the keynames accordingly? |
| 18:00:51 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: You only need a few commands. Just type "gdb rockboxui", then "run" |
| 18:01:37 | linuxstb | When it crashes, it will then probably give you enough information to find the problem. Typing "bt" will do a "backtrace" which gives more info. That's about all I know... |
| 18:01:54 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: great, thanks |
| 18:02:13 | B4gder | then you do "frame [num]" to switch to one particular level in the backtrace |
| 18:02:23 | B4gder | and "p [var]" to display variable contents |
| 18:02:39 | tucoz | And I think I will also add two more options. SWCODEC and CONFIG_CODEC(?) to differ between hw and sw platforms |
| 18:03:00 | kkurbjun | thanks alot, that's real helpful |
| 18:03:12 | kkurbjun | the tutorial I was using was a bit too detailed |
| 18:05:26 | linuxstb | tucoz: I think there are two things needed for the buttons - the first is just to define an option specifying the type of keypad - IPOD_4G_PAD, IRIVER_H100_PAD, RECORDER_PAD etc |
| 18:05:35 | tucoz | yes |
| 18:06:13 | linuxstb | And then you want another set of macros for the individual button names - possibly using the same names as firmware/export/button.h |
| 18:06:24 | t0mas | damn... about gdb... I've been looking at stack dumps the whole morning |
| 18:06:40 | t0mas | just to find out some idiot used strcpy() instead of strncpy() |
| 18:06:54 | tucoz | That's also what I've been thinking. I'll experiment some and see what works best. |
| 18:07:19 | tucoz | linuxstb, what do you think of the SWCODEC and SOME_DEFINE_FOR_MAS_CODEC |
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| 18:07:44 | kkurbjun | can anyone see what would be wrong with this code: http://pastebin.com/607666 specifically in the assignment of finecosine? |
| 18:07:44 | tucoz | That will be for sections such as equalizer etc |
| 18:08:07 | kkurbjun | the debugger is telling me that finecosine pointer is 0 |
| 18:08:21 | Mikachu | maybe you don't have enough memory? |
| 18:08:43 | Mikachu | For calloc() and malloc(), the value returned is a pointer to the allocated memory, which is suitably aligned for any kind of variable, or NULL if the request fails. |
| 18:08:49 | Mikachu | +"" |
| 18:09:16 | kkurbjun | finesine is allocating fine though |
| 18:09:35 | * | t0mas sees someone comming in |
| 18:09:38 | t0mas | at devcon |
| 18:09:50 | Mikachu | kkurbjun: if the pointer is 0 it would seem that it isn't... |
| 18:09:53 | t0mas | Mikachu: we don't have malloc() in rockbox |
| 18:09:57 | B4gder | t0mas: a Contactor guy |
| 18:09:58 | Mikachu | okay |
| 18:10:15 | Mikachu | but still, it's the largest one so it's a bit suspicious |
| 18:10:19 | t0mas | B4gder: hanging out there on 18:10 ?? |
| 18:10:27 | B4gder | yeps :-) |
| 18:10:35 | t0mas | haha |
| 18:10:51 | kkurbjun | mikachu: the malloc is ok, I'm checking the end values of finesine and they're coming up correct also |
| 18:10:58 | kkurbjun | hmm |
| 18:11:36 | linuxstb | tucoz: Rockbox itself uses SWCODEC and three different MASNNNN defines for CONFIG_CODEC. Maybe just using SWCODEC and MASCODEC in the manual will be enough. |
| 18:12:11 | kkurbjun | can you set gdb to watch certain variables and break when they're modified? |
| 18:12:32 | Mikachu | okay |
| 18:12:44 | Mikachu | then i don't know |
| 18:12:50 | t0mas | B4gder: added location and killed the image? |
| 18:13:10 | kkurbjun | mikachu: thanks though |
| 18:14:30 | kkurbjun | oh, I found the problem |
| 18:14:34 | kkurbjun | oops |
| 18:14:46 | kkurbjun | returning before the value was set |
| 18:14:56 | tucoz | linuxstb, ok. I think so too. thanks |
| 18:17:31 | Mikachu | kkurbjun: do you have lowercase completion on or are you typing nicks without pressing tab? |
| 18:18:26 | kkurbjun | I don't always press tab, why? |
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| 18:18:53 | Mikachu | just took me a few seconds to figure out why my nick looked strange :) |
| 18:19:02 | kkurbjun | :) |
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| 18:31:00 | LinusN | björn tripped on the camera cable |
| 18:33:40 | Mikachu | will he recover? |
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| 18:35:09 | XavierGr | yo! |
| 18:35:19 | CyberDog | what software are they using to do that? |
| 18:35:29 | XavierGr | I can see alot of DAPs there |
| 18:35:35 | CyberDog | heh yeah |
| 18:35:40 | CyberDog | stacked neatly |
| 18:35:45 | CyberDog | well they were |
| 18:36:07 | dpassen1 | Is there an x5 and an iPod 5G there by any chance? |
| 18:36:19 | B4gder | two x5s |
| 18:36:22 | B4gder | no ipod yet |
| 18:36:34 | CyberDog | coulda brought mine over.. |
| 18:36:35 | linuxstb | The ipod boy and girl will be arriving later... |
| 18:36:49 | dpassen1 | Thanks, I'd love to see a size comparison when possible. Numbers are harder to visualize. |
| 18:37:01 | Mikachu | draw a picture :) |
| 18:37:19 | linuxstb | bbl |
| 18:37:20 | B4gder | lemme try... |
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| 18:38:32 | XavierGr | haha |
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| 18:39:43 | XavierGr | wow |
| 18:39:47 | XavierGr | what does it say? |
| 18:39:55 | XavierGr | rockbox manual? |
| 18:40:09 | XavierGr | yeah it seems like it |
| 18:40:15 | elinenbe | what is that image on the cam? |
| 18:40:31 | Zagor | a basic schedule |
| 18:40:34 | dpassen1 | agenda |
| 18:40:36 | XavierGr | oh |
| 18:40:46 | Zagor | (the hidden agenad) |
| 18:40:46 | elinenbe | what's on the schedule? :-) |
| 18:40:54 | Zagor | didn't you read? ;) |
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| 18:42:13 | Paprica | where is iriver?! ;] |
| 18:42:14 | Zagor | this is our way of making copies |
| 18:42:23 | CyberDog | magic? |
| 18:42:33 | B4gder | iriver is in korea ;-) |
| 18:43:16 | Paprica | hehehe |
| 18:45:37 | Mikachu | the inverse of rockbox, http://ita.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:47:53 | XavierGr | bliah |
| 18:48:01 | XavierGr | itunes? who uses that? |
| 18:50:18 | dpassen1 | many, many people |
| 18:50:25 | XavierGr | shame on them |
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| 18:58:25 | kkurbjun | great, have doom running in the sim |
| 18:58:44 | XavierGr | nice! Update your patch |
| 18:59:04 | XavierGr | now that my h300 is for repairs I could play a little in the sim |
| 18:59:07 | Paprica | kkurbjun, nice |
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| 18:59:57 | kkurbjun | : ) |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:22 | Paprica | kkurbjun, you next project could be make the gif viewer work? |
| 19:00:22 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/3037 |
| 19:00:44 | Paprica | working on the sim but not on h300 |
| 19:00:51 | Paprica | on the ipod it works well |
| 19:00:52 | Paprica | =\ |
| 19:00:53 | kkurbjun | I'm interested in the midi player next |
| 19:00:56 | Paprica | oh |
| 19:00:59 | Paprica | ok |
| 19:01:14 | Paprica | so next next project? ;] |
| 19:01:26 | kkurbjun | :) |
| 19:01:29 | crashd | Paprica: did your calender get commited? |
| 19:01:39 | Paprica | not yet |
| 19:01:49 | Mikachu | Paprica: the keyboard code doesn't look at all fun to port |
| 19:01:54 | XavierGr | yes the midi player needs some work. It would be sweet to have it running realtim on 44100hz |
| 19:02:01 | Paprica | waiting for OK from LinusN |
| 19:02:05 | crashd | ahh roit |
| 19:02:18 | crashd | what's the state of the chiptune/mod players in rockbox (cant get to web atm) |
| 19:02:32 | Paprica | Mikachu, huh =] |
| 19:02:34 | XavierGr | Linus & Bjorn left... |
| 19:03:00 | Paprica | hehe |
| 19:03:12 | Mikachu | Paprica: lots of numbers to align and stuff |
| 19:03:24 | Paprica | yep |
| 19:04:04 | Mikachu | and i think it would be better to improve the rockbox keyboard or implement switchable input globally for rockbox than have a special keyboard in the calendar |
| 19:04:34 | Mikachu | <- mr optimist |
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| 19:05:58 | elinenbe | kkurbjun: didn't you do doom? |
| 19:06:06 | XavierGr | yes he did |
| 19:06:38 | elinenbe | I thought there WAS a midi player that was a part of doom? no? |
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| 19:06:55 | Mikachu | it only sends midi events to the os |
| 19:06:57 | XavierGr | it uses the same as that in the cvs AFAIK |
| 19:06:59 | Mikachu | it doesn't have a builtin synth |
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| 19:08:43 | kkurbjun | elinenbe, yes, I did doom, but the midi player was done by someone else |
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| 19:08:54 | kkurbjun | oops, answered |
| 19:10:08 | elinenbe | kkurbjun: XavierGr: thanks |
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| 19:33:07 | B4gder | Christi and Brandon gathered at the airport and are on their way |
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| 19:37:00 | * | safetydan wonders if anyone is capturing all these images from the web camera to make a movie |
| 19:37:37 | safetydan | "Watch coders as they... chat on IRC!" We could sell it. |
| 19:37:41 | B4gder | a thrilling movie it could be |
| 19:38:10 | LinusN | Rockbox Reloaded |
| 19:38:33 | Bger | B4gder what's this ~pink thing next 2 u:P |
| 19:38:55 | B4gder | a bag of potatoe chips |
| 19:39:03 | Bger | haha:) |
| 19:39:07 | bagawk | Neat to see you live :) |
| 19:39:17 | | Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484F030.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:39:19 | Bger | :P hahaha |
| 19:41:34 | XavierGr | Someone just told me (read it from the mailing list) how the name of rockbox emerged.... |
| 19:41:41 | amiconn | . . . |
| 19:41:53 | t0mas | hmz... B4gder... maybe you should save the images somewhere |
| 19:42:05 | XavierGr | definitely |
| 19:42:08 | B4gder | we upload one every 5 seconds |
| 19:42:13 | B4gder | that A LOT of pictures |
| 19:42:28 | XavierGr | hmm Orpheus, I can't imagine how that would be instead of Rockbox. |
| 19:42:50 | XavierGr | Maybe I will make my own version. Baroquebox :D |
| 19:42:55 | Bger | 12* ~ 35kb = 420kb/min |
| 19:43:31 | XavierGr | ~1GB for the 48 hours |
| 19:44:21 | B4gder | they're more like 50KB each |
| 19:44:36 | Bger | ah, yes |
| 19:45:26 | XavierGr | then ~2.5 GB for 60 hours |
| 19:45:49 | Bger | ok, 600kb/min = ~843MB/day |
| 19:46:05 | Mikachu | if you're on linux you probably have a hyperuseful program called 'units' |
| 19:46:18 | XavierGr | they are on windows |
| 19:46:24 | Mikachu | You have: 50kB/5 seconds |
| 19:46:25 | Mikachu | You want: MB/day |
| 19:46:25 | Mikachu | * 864 |
| 19:46:35 | B4gder | we have differnet machines involved |
| 19:46:54 | Mikachu | i guess it's available in cygwin too |
| 19:46:54 | B4gder | amiconn is actually doing serious rockbox work here |
| 19:47:05 | XavierGr | I imagine... |
| 19:47:13 | safetydan | hrm... not much of a shadowy "real names" conspiracy if we can see your faces |
| 19:47:27 | Bger | amiconn what are you doing atm ? ;) |
| 19:47:32 | B4gder | how do you know it is our _real_ faces? ;-) |
| 19:47:59 | * | B4gder waits to do the Mission Impossible face lift-off |
| 19:47:59 | safetydan | ooo... now the conspiracy really comes out, they're fakes! actors in developers clothes! |
| 19:48:06 | Bger | safetydan this is not B4gder, this is his evil twin ... |
| 19:48:18 | Mikachu | so he has the same face? |
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| 19:55:26 | centos | could someone help me? i tried to patch the latest bleeding with the Arbitrary-vorbis-comments-patch but one hunk fails. at screens.c. or maybe someone knows how to contact the developer (low-light). |
| 19:56:09 | Mikachu | try looking at the source and the .rej file and see if you can merge it manually |
| 19:57:08 | centos | to be honest, i simply don´t know how to do that. |
| 19:57:34 | centos | :( |
| 19:57:47 | Nico_P | devs... what about committing this ? : http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4843 |
| 19:58:39 | Paprica | no source for this? http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-02/0642.shtml |
| 19:59:27 | B4gder | Paprica: I believe we got the source |
| 19:59:48 | B4gder | but we didn't want all his changes |
| 19:59:57 | B4gder | and he didn't want to make separate patches |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:15 | B4gder | and then it never got anywhere |
| 20:00:29 | Paprica | it's very old...... |
| 20:01:01 | Paprica | maype he change his decision? |
| 20:01:08 | Paprica | maybe* |
| 20:01:09 | B4gder | I doubt that |
| 20:01:20 | Paprica | haha =] |
| 20:01:27 | B4gder | the code was also already then made against an old source version |
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| 20:02:53 | Paprica | =\ |
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| 20:11:43 | amiconn | Paprica: Some remarks regarding rockcalendar on Ondio: |
| 20:12:11 | amiconn | (1) I can't leave the menu with Left as I would expect |
| 20:12:42 | amiconn | (2) It's impossible to set the date. It seems date setting should be entered with Mode, but it backs out again immediately |
| 20:13:20 | amiconn | (3) Selecting menu items with Mode is also counter-intuitive on Ondio. It should be Right |
| 20:13:59 | amiconn | I think rockcalendar should use the rockbox standard menus to ensure standard behaviour |
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| 20:18:54 | Nico_P | sooo ? what about my patch ? very simple one... only a few lines changed |
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| 20:19:45 | Zagor | man, that poor 2mbit line is glowing... |
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| 20:20:53 | Nico_P | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4843 |
| 20:20:56 | Mikachu | hm, i have 100mbit, maybe i could help? |
| 20:21:22 | XavierGr | Mikachu: I hate you! |
| 20:21:41 | Mikachu | i have to pay 6.5$ per month for it too :( |
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| 20:22:13 | B4gder | Mikachu: you have somewhere we can upload pictures too frequently? |
| 20:22:31 | | Join xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) |
| 20:22:35 | Mikachu | i could probably set up a thing on my ftp server |
| 20:22:38 | XavierGr | Mikachu: Stop talking about Interent connections please. I hate you more. |
| 20:22:52 | XavierGr | 6.5$ for 100mbit? |
| 20:22:57 | Mikachu | student deal |
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| 20:23:14 | kkurbjun | ok, rockdoom is updated, it runs great on the sim now, no sound though |
| 20:23:15 | XavierGr | I pay 30 euros for 384 (more like 256) kbps |
| 20:23:37 | crashd | that isnt 100mbit |
| 20:23:39 | XavierGr | and no more than 20 packets per second |
| 20:23:43 | crashd | that's not even 10mbit dude |
| 20:23:49 | XavierGr | exactly |
| 20:24:02 | XavierGr | (no VoIP no online gaming e.t.c) |
| 20:24:07 | XavierGr | that's why I hate him |
| 20:24:11 | crashd | i pay £34.99 for 10mbit proper |
| 20:24:13 | crashd | which it tasty |
| 20:24:22 | XavierGr | I hate you too. |
| 20:24:25 | crashd | heh |
| 20:24:28 | crashd | only 512 upload tho |
| 20:24:33 | XavierGr | grrr |
| 20:24:33 | crashd | so, what goes around comes around, i guess |
| 20:24:39 | crashd | B4gder: what kind of pics ? |
| 20:24:53 | crashd | i might be able to help |
| 20:25:04 | B4gder | very juicy pics => http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ |
| 20:25:11 | XavierGr | indeed |
| 20:25:20 | crashd | ahh, a webcam feed |
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| 20:26:08 | * | LinusN waves |
| 20:26:19 | B4gder | hehe |
| 20:26:24 | * | B4gder ruins it |
| 20:27:30 | XavierGr | I like the stack of DAPs you got there |
| 20:28:37 | linuxstb | It's missing the iPod gang |
| 20:28:42 | B4gder | a neat pile |
| 20:28:52 | B4gder | yes, they should've called us by now... |
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| 20:32:19 | Bger | so, one H1xx over 3 archoses, and 2 h3x0 in front of them ? |
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| 20:33:07 | Bger | no, can't be 2 h3x0 |
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| 20:33:59 | amiconn | Bg3r: It's a Player and a Recorder v1 |
| 20:34:11 | amiconn | across that an FM recorder |
| 20:34:25 | amiconn | and a H140 on top |
| 20:34:35 | Bger | and in front of them ? |
| 20:34:56 | Bger | heh B4gder rearranges them |
| 20:35:00 | amiconn | In front of the stack there is an iAudio X5 and a H320 |
| 20:35:14 | amiconn | err, two iAudios |
| 20:35:30 | Bger | what's that next to B4gder ? |
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| 20:35:39 | Bger | to his right hand |
| 20:35:44 | amiconn | Now you can see an Ondio FM as well |
| 20:36:59 | Bger | any digi camera there ? |
| 20:37:48 | Bger | good B4gder, good :) |
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| 20:41:47 | XavierGr | ela |
| 20:45:17 | Bger | XavierGr ? |
| 20:45:36 | XavierGr | yes? |
| 20:45:40 | Bger | ela ? |
| 20:45:40 | XavierGr | oops soory |
| 20:45:55 | XavierGr | god this happens to me all the time |
| 20:46:05 | Mikachu | my apache log has never been this active before |
| 20:46:12 | B4gder | hehe |
| 20:46:21 | tucoz | Mikachu, we're getting images from you now? |
| 20:46:31 | Bger | ah, yes |
| 20:46:34 | Bger | tucoz yep |
| 20:46:35 | tucoz | it seems faster |
| 20:46:51 | Mikachu | tucoz: yeah |
| 20:46:55 | tucoz | cool |
| 20:47:01 | Mikachu | log is growing 1kB/s |
| 20:47:23 | tucoz | Can you see how many connections you got? |
| 20:47:35 | XavierGr | wow that tower is frightening? |
| 20:47:42 | XavierGr | DAP Tower! |
| 20:47:42 | B4gder | Mikachu: you should be able to do a good count on current number of browsing peple |
| 20:47:47 | Mikachu | they're opened and closed all the time |
| 20:48:01 | Bger | Mikachu check per ip ... |
| 20:48:44 | Mikachu | % lgrep /shot.jpg access.log|cut -f 1 -d \ |sort -u|wc -l |
| 20:48:44 | Mikachu | 27 |
| 20:50:36 | Mikachu | % lgrep /shot.jpg access.log|cut -f 1 -d \ |sort -u|logresolve|rev|cut -f 1 -d .|rev|sort -u|lgrep '[a-zA-Z]'|wc -l |
| 20:50:39 | Mikachu | 14 |
| 20:51:04 | Mikachu | number of different TLDs |
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| 20:56:42 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: could you see if the latest source I have will fit in the IPod's plugin buffer if you get a chance? |
| 20:58:31 | linuxstb | Paprica: I've just tried RockCalendar on my 4g Color ipod and I don't think I like a single one of your button choices :). IMO, the button mappings should be the following: The clickwheel should be used for RIGHT/LEFT and we can live without UP/DOWN. Pressing MENU should bring up the main menu, pressing SELECT should bring up the "current day" menu. In the menus themselves, you should use the scrollwheel to move up/down, with eit |
| 20:58:31 | linuxstb | her SELECT or RIGHT to select an item, and either LEFT or MENU to leave the menu - maybe use the standard MENU_???? defines in menu.h (which I think plugins have access to via plugin.h). The actual LEFT/RIGHT buttons should be used for previous/next month. |
| 20:59:13 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: OK, I'll try it now - but you could just install the ARM cross-compiler youself :) |
| 20:59:23 | linuxstb | Is it on the patch tracker? |
| 20:59:26 | kkurbjun | yep |
| 21:00 |
| 21:02:25 | linuxstb | It still fails with a static/non-static error. |
| 21:02:40 | kkurbjun | where is that so I can fix it |
| 21:02:50 | kkurbjun | my compiler doesn't give me that error |
| 21:03:08 | linuxstb | in p_mobj.c - itemrespawnque and itemrespawntime |
| 21:03:22 | linuxstb | Lines 804 and 805 in p_mobj.c |
| 21:04:19 | linuxstb | And there are more in r_segs.c - lines 49, 50, 51, 67 and 68 all need the word "static" removing. |
| 21:04:54 | kkurbjun | what's wrong with the static definition? they are modified later I guess? |
| 21:05:46 | kkurbjun | errr, no, is it just complaining because they are globals? |
| 21:05:48 | linuxstb | My understanding is that static in that context means that the variables are only available to functions in the same .c file. |
| 21:05:56 | kkurbjun | oh, I see |
| 21:06:23 | linuxstb | And one more in d_main.c - line 104 (basetic) |
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| 21:07:21 | elinenbe | LinusN: to you and all the others... good luck boys! |
| 21:07:52 | B4gder | hey, christi's coming too |
| 21:07:55 | B4gder | :-) |
| 21:08:12 | kkurbjun | ok, I think i got all of them |
| 21:08:33 | linuxstb | And yes - it now compiles fine in the iPod's 512KB plugin buffer :) |
| 21:08:34 | LinusN | well, christi and brandon are lost somewhere in the cold swedish night... |
| 21:09:00 | LinusN | it seems like her cell phone is dead... |
| 21:09:01 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, great :), now if only it would run |
| 21:10:03 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, how large is the .rock on the ipod now? |
| 21:12:08 | Mikachu | for variables, static inside a function means it persists across calls to the function, static outside a function means the variable is only available in that c file |
| 21:12:11 | linuxstb | The .rock itself is 372856 bytes. The total size including BSS is 422916 bytes. |
| 21:12:47 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes - the second case was causing the problem. Variables declared non-static in the .h file, but static in the .c file. |
| 21:13:02 | linuxstb | gcc 3.4.x wasn't complaining, but gcc 4 does. |
| 21:13:06 | kkurbjun | Mikachu, thanks |
| 21:13:21 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, good, then I have some room to add more code :) |
| 21:16:31 | tucoz | have a nice time at the devcon, I'm off to the pub :) |
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| 21:18:28 | webguest91 | oi, I dont see any frosty beverages on the tables of you hard working folks over there in sweden |
| 21:18:50 | LinusN | not yet |
| 21:18:57 | webguest91 | :) |
| 21:19:15 | LinusN | can't drink until i have picked up christi and brandon |
| 21:19:32 | Mikachu | can't christi turn water into wine? |
| 21:19:45 | LinusN | :-) |
| 21:20:02 | webguest91 | make her drive :> |
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| 21:22:13 | webguest91 | you'all have a nice day |
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| 21:23:27 | Zagor | LinusN: debian installed yet? |
| 21:24:18 | LinusN | yes |
| 21:24:29 | LinusN | your installation froze |
| 21:24:53 | Zagor | yikes |
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| 21:26:35 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i'm playing a bit with the scaling code in pacbox |
| 21:26:46 | Mikachu | linuxstb: but the code is a tad confusing |
| 21:27:02 | Mikachu | linuxstb: my idea so far is to or together all the values of the four pixels into one |
| 21:27:13 | Mikachu | linuxstb: so at least all the blue lines defining the playfield are drawn |
| 21:27:22 | Mikachu | linuxstb: so far i've understood how to do it horizontally |
| 21:27:59 | Mikachu | linuxstb: do you already have some idea for good scaling so i just should give up? :) |
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| 21:38:59 | webguest55 | Hello rockers |
| 21:39:24 | * | B4gder rocks |
| 21:39:31 | webguest55 | Is Rockbox will run on the X5 soon ? |
| 21:39:32 | linuxstb | Mikachu: My two ideas for Nano scaling were: 1) Do what one of the ipodmame devs has done, and redesign the pacman sprites to be 4x4 instead of 8x8 (so the existing scaling will work better); or 2) Manually decide which of the 224 columns and 288 rows to skip and use two lookup tables. |
| 21:39:42 | Mikachu | linuxstb: ah |
| 21:39:52 | Mikachu | linuxstb: that sounds like it will work better then :) |
| 21:39:55 | B4gder | webguest55: we hope so |
| 21:40:54 | webguest55 | Cooool ! |
| 21:41:14 | Mikachu | i can have the webcam page up but obscured in good conscience |
| 21:41:37 | Mikachu | but no one else! |
| 21:41:52 | B4gder | :-) |
| 21:42:04 | sharpe | yay |
| 21:42:09 | linuxstb | Any word from the two lost ipodders? |
| 21:42:19 | LinusN | no |
| 21:42:28 | Mikachu | lost in translation |
| 21:42:34 | Mikachu | (translation also means movement) |
| 21:42:51 | XavierGr | really? |
| 21:42:53 | sharpe | heheh, whenever i turn on my television, it's like a miniature degauss for my monitor... :) |
| 21:42:59 | sharpe | yes it does... |
| 21:43:16 | Mikachu | "Motion in which all the points of the moving body have at any instant the same velocity and direction of motion; −− opposed to rotation." |
| 21:44:20 | sharpe | and in entry level algebra, a translation is a move... |
| 21:44:26 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 21:44:30 | Mikachu | that's the kinematics definition |
| 21:44:38 | Mikachu | which was good enough for my pun |
| 21:44:44 | sharpe | woohoo for my memory. |
| 21:45:23 | Mikachu | y=x+1 is a translation transform, but not a very exciting one :) |
| 21:48:02 | Mikachu | linuxstb: hm, i can't quite understand the scaling code... do you scale 0.5 in both x and y? |
| 21:48:13 | XavierGr | someone just left... |
| 21:48:29 | XavierGr | Zagor is going for...? |
| 21:48:31 | Mikachu | maybe they had to do toiled |
| 21:48:33 | Mikachu | t |
| 21:48:54 | XavierGr | no he put on his jacket, so... :D |
| 21:48:58 | Mikachu | ah |
| 21:49:08 | Mikachu | maybe the toilet is outdoors :P |
| 21:49:13 | XavierGr | lol |
| 21:49:18 | Mikachu | or maybe he's going for some jolt cola |
| 21:49:24 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes - scaling happens in both directions. |
| 21:49:40 | XavierGr | or maybe he is going to bring Christi and Brandon |
| 21:49:40 | linuxstb | 224x288 -> 144x112 |
| 21:49:41 | LinusN | he's getting burgers for all |
| 21:49:50 | XavierGr | ah yummie! |
| 21:49:51 | Mikachu | linuxstb: in the y loop, vbuf is only increased by ScreenWidth, not 2* |
| 21:50:01 | Mikachu | so i'm a bit confused at how it's actually skipping two lines |
| 21:50:02 | LinusN | burger king closes in 10 minutes :-) |
| 21:50:05 | Mikachu | skipping one line rather |
| 21:50:14 | linuxstb | That's because vbuf is the internal emulator framebuffer - which is 1 byte per pixel. |
| 21:50:14 | XavierGr | that's too early man |
| 21:50:35 | Mikachu | so if i did vbuf + ScreenWidth/2, i would get the pixel under the current one? |
| 21:50:39 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Sorry, forget that.... |
| 21:50:45 | linuxstb | Let me look at the code again. |
| 21:50:59 | XavierGr | our eating spots close not before 12.00 or late 5.00am. (Some are 24hour open) |
| 21:52:37 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I was right. In the blit_display() function, lcd_framebuffer is the Rockbox 16bpp framebuffer, and vbuf is the Pacman 8bpp framebuffer containing palette values.. |
| 21:52:47 | Mikachu | okay, so will what i wrote work? |
| 21:52:55 | linuxstb | Mikachu: So vbuf+ScreenWidth gives you the pixel underneath the current one |
| 21:53:11 | Mikachu | hm, so why does the next loop step skip a line? |
| 21:54:38 | linuxstb | Where do you mean? The vbuf+=Screenwidth? |
| 21:54:46 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 21:55:06 | linuxstb | That's the part that skips every other line in vbuf. |
| 21:55:16 | linuxstb | The vbuf+=2 skips every other column. |
| 21:55:23 | Mikachu | oooh yes of course, vbuf will be at the next line already from the +2 |
| 21:55:41 | Mikachu | but dst is reset to the reference every loop and substracted |
| 21:56:05 | Mikachu | then it is crystal clear |
| 21:57:00 | linuxstb | I had to write 5 of those loops... And I still need to add support for the greyscale ipods. |
| 21:57:10 | Mikachu | hm, if i wanted to average the values in rockbox colorspace, i'd have to unpack them first? |
| 21:57:19 | Mikachu | that would probably not look so good though |
| 21:59:23 | Mikachu | okay, so now it's pretty ugly but all the blue lines are there |
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| 22:00:48 | linuxstb | bbl |
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| 22:04:08 | LinusN | daniel found two foreigners wandering in the cold... |
| 22:04:18 | Mikachu | was it the right ones? |
| 22:04:34 | Mikachu | or 'are they' rather |
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| 22:05:55 | Mikachu | linuxstb: it's a bit illogical with the names LCD_RGBPACK and RGB_UNPACK_color i think |
| 22:06:04 | Mikachu | (i'm just going to try the blending for fun) |
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| 22:11:46 | XavierGr | say hello from me when they arrive |
| 22:11:49 | XavierGr | I have to go |
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| 22:15:18 | safetydan | Well it's much easier to tell if someone's away when they have a web cam pointing at them. |
| 22:15:35 | Mikachu | heh, this is both slow and ugly |
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| 22:19:47 | safetydan | Hrm... I wonder if it's worth doing some cleanup based on some of gcc's more obscure warning settings. |
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| 22:28:51 | sharpe | midkay! |
| 22:29:00 | midkay | sharpie!!! |
| 22:29:09 | sharpe | heh... |
| 22:29:44 | midkay | wazaawazzaaaaaaaaa ;) |
| 22:30:22 | sharpe | lol |
| 22:30:30 | sharpe | going to get started on the pixel maze... |
| 22:30:44 | midkay | "get started" - what the hell? :) |
| 22:30:59 | midkay | haven't you been working on that for like two years now? ;) |
| 22:31:01 | sharpe | er, start back on working? |
| 22:31:40 | | Quit ScootScat () |
| 22:31:43 | sharpe | i've just taken a break for a while... |
| 22:32:00 | sharpe | one day or so actually :) |
| 22:32:06 | midkay | what about packed wps files!! *cries* |
| 22:32:09 | midkay | haha. |
| 22:32:19 | sharpe | i don't know :'( |
| 22:32:31 | midkay | need-you help? |
| 22:32:41 | sharpe | for those, yeh |
| 22:33:01 | midkay | i could try.. i'd probably fail, but i could try. :) |
| 22:33:16 | sharpe | heh, probably better than i've done |
| 22:33:26 | midkay | i doubt it. :) |
| 22:34:10 | sharpe | i just haven't gotten the adding the functions to the api struct to work... |
| 22:34:36 | midkay | sharpe, aha.. |
| 22:34:52 | sharpe | yeah... |
| 22:35:11 | midkay | well, let me see if i can do that.. |
| 22:35:17 | sharpe | well, it wasn't really the functions, just... the like global settings and the wps thingie... |
| 22:35:30 | midkay | hmm.. |
| 22:35:34 | safetydan | yeesh... compiling with -Wwrite-strings throws up a lot of warnings |
| 22:35:59 | Mikachu | hm? isn't -fno-write-strings default or something like that? |
| 22:36:22 | safetydan | yeah it is, I'm just poking around and seeing what gcc doesn't like in Rockbox when it's being super-strict |
| 22:36:34 | safetydan | wait... I'm just talking about warnings |
| 22:36:45 | Mikachu | i thought writing to strings was disabled since 3.0 or so |
| 22:36:56 | | Quit Matze ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 22:37:07 | safetydan | apparently not |
| 22:38:08 | Mikachu | "" These warnings will help you find at compile time code that can try to write into a string constant, but only if you have been very careful about using "const" in declarations and prototypes. Otherwise, it will just be a nuisance; this is why we did not make -Wall request these warnings. "" |
| 22:38:35 | safetydan | I'm trying for const correctness |
| 22:38:40 | Mikachu | okay |
| 22:38:42 | safetydan | Rockbox isn't too bad when it comes to use of const |
| 22:39:13 | Mikachu | apps/plugins/doom}% grep fuck *|wc -l |
| 22:39:13 | Mikachu | 19 |
| 22:39:56 | safetydan | ha |
| 22:40:42 | safetydan | 2 in Rockbox source |
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| 22:42:46 | afruff23_ | anyone there? |
| 22:42:50 | Mikachu | sure |
| 22:42:55 | sharpe | of course |
| 22:42:58 | Mikachu | ooh, someone is back at the devcon |
| 22:43:03 | afruff23_ | anyone developing for X5 |
| 22:43:09 | Mikachu | two! |
| 22:43:19 | afruff23_ | you are? |
| 22:43:24 | Mikachu | no |
| 22:43:30 | Mikachu | i wasn't replying, sorry |
| 22:44:02 | afruff23_ | one guy sure loks happy at the devcon |
| 22:44:07 | afruff23_ | looks* |
| 22:44:14 | afruff23_ | and he's gone |
| 22:44:22 | afruff23_ | he's back |
| 22:44:30 | afruff23_ | walking to cam |
| 22:44:48 | afruff23_ | what'd he just do? |
| 22:44:57 | afruff23_ | he;s happy again |
| 22:44:58 | afruff23_ | lol |
| 22:45:04 | Zagor | that's linus |
| 22:45:04 | afruff23_ | now sad |
| 22:45:05 | LinusN | i moved the cam |
| 22:45:23 | afruff23_ | it's not that different |
| 22:46:26 | Mikachu | did you find lolo and christi? |
| 22:47:06 | LinusN | yup |
| 22:47:16 | LinusN | christi is behind the lcd screen to the left |
| 22:47:32 | LinusN | and you can see brandon's right elbow to the right |
| 22:47:34 | | Part safetydan |
| 22:47:37 | Zagor | i'm making a "who's who" image |
| 22:47:50 | Mikachu | ah |
| 22:49:26 | afruff23_ | can I expect to see an X5 port by next year?(no sarcasm intended)(I won't hold you to anything either) |
| 22:49:47 | LinusN | yes, the x5 will come soon |
| 22:50:00 | MrStaticVoid | yipee |
| 22:50:25 | afruff23_ | since the X5 already has native FLAC support, then will it have full seekign support? |
| 22:50:28 | afruff23_ | seeking* |
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| 22:53:59 | Mikachu | afruff23_: i was able to seek in them on my ipod after i added seeking tables with metaflac |
| 22:54:18 | safetydan | Is it just me or is the pile of mp3 players starting to look a little like R2-D2? |
| 22:54:36 | afruff23_ | no, I read somehwere that in FLAC files on rockbox you can't seek exactly |
| 22:54:47 | afruff23_ | it just goes to the nearest part of a seeking table |
| 22:55:35 | * | afruff23_ slaps Mikachu |
| 22:55:45 | afruff23_ | what is slapping? |
| 22:56:00 | sharpe | striking? |
| 22:56:06 | afruff23_ | never mind |
| 22:56:31 | sharpe | okay :) |
| 22:56:39 | afruff23_ | How long does this devcon last? |
| 22:56:47 | Mikachu | safetydan: i had that thought too earlier |
| 22:57:18 | Mikachu | not exactly r2d2 but some kind of robot |
| 22:57:28 | afruff23_ | ËØÔÆÍãËÓ¿ |
| 22:57:40 | afruff23_ | examples? |
| 22:58:39 | Mikachu | i got 47 fucks in linux sources |
| 22:59:00 | safetydan | Sounds like an exciting Friday night you're having there Mikachu :) |
| 22:59:06 | Mikachu | heh |
| 22:59:06 | safetydan | grepping source code for swear words |
| 22:59:21 | sharpe | sounds like fun |
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| 22:59:31 | Mikachu | it's not like i sat watching the grep go |
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| 22:59:40 | afruff23_ | mikachu are oyu a developer? |
| 22:59:43 | afruff23_ | you* |
| 22:59:48 | Mikachu | no |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:04 | | Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953f0.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 23:00:17 | sharpe | i know i'm not :) |
| 23:00:27 | | Quit Rondom (Client Quit) |
| 23:00:49 | * | Zagor added a whoswho image. reload to see it. |
| 23:01:31 | afruff23_ | thanks |
| 23:01:41 | LinusN | cool |
| 23:01:53 | safetydan | poor lostlogic... fallen of the edge of the world/camera |
| 23:02:15 | Zagor | he and christi obviously have something to hide :-) |
| 23:02:28 | Mikachu | damn foreigners |
| 23:02:43 | LinusN | it's a coverup |
| 23:02:50 | LinusN | they never really arrived |
| 23:02:52 | | Join webguest18 [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:02:55 | lostlogic | they killed us |
| 23:03:01 | Mikachu | and wrote hyperadvanced ircbots |
| 23:03:06 | LinusN | part of the hidden rockbox agenda |
| 23:03:10 | lostlogic | they're going to use us for food for the weekend or something |
| 23:03:37 | LinusN | the swedish chef will cook them |
| 23:03:40 | afruff23_ | Are all the developers swedish? |
| 23:03:45 | Mikachu | and season with swedish fish |
| 23:03:49 | afruff23_ | or live there? |
| 23:03:49 | safetydan | afruff23_, no |
| 23:03:49 | Bger | ah, yes |
| 23:04:00 | Bger | LinusN, please send me some pieces ;) |
| 23:04:01 | webguest18 | re-hello here |
| 23:04:05 | | Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-126-180.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:04:18 | webguest18 | I asked few minutes ago about the Cowan stuff |
| 23:04:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | The swedish chef is really an evil serial murderer? |
| 23:04:29 | afruff23_ | because if they aren't lving ther, then how could they afford to go to Sweden to develop soemthing for no money? |
| 23:04:30 | webguest18 | How can I help you guys ? |
| 23:04:32 | safetydan | boy is there a lot of things gcc can warn you about |
| 23:05:00 | sharpe | for instance, it can warn you that you left your oven on. |
| 23:05:02 | webguest18 | Is there someone working on the hardware parts of iaudio yet? |
| 23:05:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: Warning: Umm... I forgot? |
| 23:05:18 | safetydan | ha |
| 23:05:20 | webguest18 | I want to help the port |
| 23:05:23 | Zagor | afruff23_: how can you afford going on vacation? |
| 23:05:40 | afruff23_ | Well, it's for leisure not work |
| 23:05:46 | Zagor | this is leisure |
| 23:05:56 | LinusN | webguest18: i have most of the hardware covered |
| 23:05:58 | afruff23_ | Oh, I view programming as work |
| 23:06:10 | afruff23_ | but I've only used C++ |
| 23:06:13 | Mikachu | programming for work is work, programming for fun is leisure |
| 23:06:15 | safetydan | Is it worth having some sort of janitorial project to go through and clean up some? Sort of like http://wiki.winehq.org/CompilerWarnings |
| 23:06:18 | webguest18 | LinusN: very nice |
| 23:06:48 | afruff23_ | whhich port are you guys focsuing on? |
| 23:06:51 | webguest18 | LinusN: have you got something to test yet? bootloader or something |
| 23:06:55 | linuxstb | safetydan: What kind of warnings are you talking about? |
| 23:07:09 | webguest18 | I've got X5 20 gb |
| 23:07:16 | LinusN | webguest18: i have most of the stuff done to make a bootloader |
| 23:07:40 | safetydan | linuxstb, things like -Wwrite-strings and -Wstrict-prototypes |
| 23:07:50 | safetydan | (though the last only shows two warnings in the sim and I made those...) |
| 23:07:51 | afruff23_ | I've got the X5L 20 gb for $272. How much you get your's for webguest18? |
| 23:07:53 | webguest18 | LinusN: what are things left? |
| 23:08:08 | linuxstb | LinusN: How will the Rockbox bootloader work on the X5? Will it involve flashing? |
| 23:08:15 | LinusN | i'll have to tweak the waitstates and stuff for the cpufrequency scaling |
| 23:08:20 | LinusN | then i'm set |
| 23:08:28 | webguest18 | afruff23: 200 euros but ages ago |
| 23:08:38 | LinusN | linuxstb: yes, it will be about the same as for hxx |
| 23:08:53 | webguest18 | LinusN: can we hope something really soon? :) |
| 23:09:08 | afruff23_ | That's a pretty good price, but is it the version without FM tuner? |
| 23:09:10 | Mikachu | is brandon the one moving around now? |
| 23:09:23 | LinusN | jörg |
| 23:09:25 | webguest18 | afruff23: yes |
| 23:11:01 | webguest18 | LinusN: what are the things left for have one bootloder (without sound yet I assum) ? |
| 23:11:18 | LinusN | i told you |
| 23:11:34 | sharpe | midkay, i think i may have something... |
| 23:12:00 | midkay | sharpe, hmm? |
| 23:12:30 | sharpe | turns out i think i was using the wrong struct :) |
| 23:12:58 | webguest18 | LinusN: have you need something for help? |
| 23:13:20 | midkay | sharpe, cool :) |
| 23:13:32 | webguest18 | I mean : can I help you |
| 23:13:44 | sharpe | i'm just going to see if i can get it to load a .wps first, without doing anything with the zips |
| 23:13:46 | webguest18 | ? |
| 23:14:06 | webguest18 | LinusN: ? |
| 23:14:10 | afruff23_ | It's so wierd that all the mp3 players that I had ever been interested in either have rockbox or have devlopment in progress |
| 23:14:22 | afruff23_ | gigabeat, X5, ipod, iriver |
| 23:14:27 | midkay | sharpe, sounds good - it's what i'd do :) |
| 23:14:28 | Zagor | webguest18: he's not impolite, he's running around :-) |
| 23:14:35 | sharpe | :) |
| 23:14:51 | webguest18 | oops sorry |
| 23:14:59 | Mikachu | okay, what nick is jörg's? |
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| 23:15:19 | Zagor | Mikachu: reload for latest whoswho |
| 23:15:27 | Mikachu | ah |
| 23:15:45 | afruff23_ | Is it possible to search all previous IRC logs without having to go to each link individually? |
| 23:15:50 | LinusN | webguest18: yes, you can work with the sim |
| 23:15:58 | Zagor | afruff23_: only with google |
| 23:16:14 | webguest18 | Zagor: what do you mean? :) |
| 23:16:46 | Bger | webguest18 he means "blabla site:www.rockbox.org/irc" |
| 23:16:58 | linuxstb | afruff23_: To answer your FLAC question, just create your FLAC files with seekpoints that match the accuracy that you wish to seek to. I personally encode them with seekpoints every second. |
| 23:17:07 | afruff23_ | I can keep my od firmware on my X5 at the same time as the rockbox firmware right? Other versions you have to use button combos. Do these combos ever get pressed by accident? |
| 23:17:12 | afruff23_ | old* |
| 23:17:13 | t0mas_ | *kuch* lost connection |
| 23:17:24 | t0mas_ | thanks to Planet Internet, The Netherlands |
| 23:17:37 | webguest18 | LinusN, Bger: is there one part in particulary I have to look at it or somethings? |
| 23:17:42 | | Part safetydan ("Leaving") |
| 23:17:52 | | Quit t0mas (Nick collision from services.) |
| 23:17:57 | | Nick t0mas_ is now known as t0mas (n=tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) |
| 23:18:01 | Zagor | afruff23_: yes, the bootloader implements dual booting |
| 23:18:06 | t0mas | woops |
| 23:18:30 | afruff23_ | have you decided on a betton combo yet? If so, what is it? |
| 23:18:42 | LinusN | webguest18: yes, the button mappings |
| 23:19:05 | LinusN | the x5 has no stop button, so there are a few places where we need to adapt |
| 23:19:19 | webguest18 | LinusN: ok I will look at it |
| 23:19:27 | LinusN | gr8 |
| 23:20:24 | afruff23_ | I would reccomend pressing the A-B Repeat button while the X5 is not playing(i.e. paused does not count as playing) |
| 23:20:46 | Zagor | afruff23_: to do what? |
| 23:20:54 | | Join Cassandra [0] (n=Cassandr@dhcp87.contactor.se) |
| 23:21:05 | afruff23_ | to load the original firmware |
| 23:21:14 | t0mas | B4gder? everybody in now? |
| 23:21:17 | afruff23_ | while in the rockbox firmware, that is |
| 23:21:19 | B4gder | yeps |
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| 23:21:32 | t0mas | ah.. have I missed up the lineup? ;) |
| 23:21:34 | Mikachu | afruff23_: you'd hold a key while booting to select other firmwares |
| 23:21:44 | t0mas | right in front of the cam is lostlogic / brandon? |
| 23:21:46 | afruff23_ | oh, never mind. |
| 23:21:51 | B4gder | ah but Zagor left before so he's not physically here |
| 23:22:28 | afruff23_ | who's the guy with the lollipop? |
| 23:22:51 | t0mas | lostlogic I think... |
| 23:23:06 | afruff23_ | according to the who's who image, that's not him |
| 23:23:07 | Zagor | reload the page for updated whoswho image |
| 23:23:12 | afruff23_ | ok |
| 23:23:19 | afruff23_ | thanks |
| 23:24:19 | Zagor | afruff23_: firmware selection is done at boot time |
| 23:24:32 | afruff23_ | I understood |
| 23:24:42 | afruff23_ | from mikachu |
| 23:25:17 | t0mas | hmz... I've missed Cassandra / Christi and lostlogic / Brandon |
| 23:25:37 | t0mas | and they both hide outside of the camera range |
| 23:25:38 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 23:25:47 | Mikachu | don't forget to take a groupshot with a camera tomorrow |
| 23:26:07 | Bger | i don't see any beer! |
| 23:26:08 | lostlogic | no |
| 23:26:12 | lostlogic | no lolipop here |
| 23:26:15 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 23:26:22 | t0mas | then it's [IDC]Dragon |
| 23:26:32 | B4gder | that's beer! |
| 23:26:34 | t0mas | and Daniel has a beer |
| 23:26:42 | t0mas | lostlogic: time to wave ;) |
| 23:26:48 | Cassandra | t0mas, best# place for me if you ask me. |
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| 23:27:15 | t0mas | hidden perfectly behind Bjorns screen... |
| 23:30:27 | afruff23_ | how many versions of the rockbox firmware will there be for the X5? |
| 23:30:40 | Mikachu | what do you mean by versions? |
| 23:30:47 | afruff23_ | I'm asking because fot he differnt X5's |
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| 23:30:54 | Mikachu | oh, didn't know there were different ones |
| 23:30:59 | MrStaticVoid | they are all the same |
| 23:31:02 | afruff23_ | X5L, X5, 60 gb, X5V |
| 23:31:04 | LinusN | it will be the same for all versions |
| 23:31:17 | [IDC]Dragon | phew, I'm set up |
| 23:31:19 | afruff23_ | But X5V doesn't support radio |
| 23:31:29 | afruff23_ | and 60 gb has a 2 platter drive |
| 23:31:37 | Zagor | [IDC]Dragon: using the web irc client? |
| 23:31:47 | * | [IDC]Dragon changes to firefox |
| 23:32:01 | | Part [IDC]Dragon |
| 23:32:15 | afruff23_ | hmm..I didn;t know firefox was an IRC client |
| 23:32:33 | afruff23_ | I sue firefox for browsing already |
| 23:32:36 | afruff23_ | use* |
| 23:32:41 | lostlogic | t0mas: why am I waving? |
| 23:32:50 | | Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (n=c10f1757@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:33:02 | t0mas | because I didn't see it ;) |
| 23:33:14 | Mikachu | maybe it will be time to merge emacs and firefox soon |
| 23:33:16 | * | t0mas wanted to see who you are :) |
| 23:36:16 | | Quit webguest18 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 23:38:22 | Zagor | Mikachu: emacs already has a web browser: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/w3/ |
| 23:38:50 | Mikachu | yeah, and firefox/mozilla has irc, that's why i thought they should merge :) |
| 23:39:08 | Mikachu | did christi suddenly become very large? |
| 23:39:17 | sharpe | eh, just merge every open source project into one... |
| 23:39:30 | sharpe | i don't know why i said that |
| 23:39:42 | Mikachu | it was also a jokoe |
| 23:39:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: Wouldn't that include mixing emacs and vi? |
| 23:40:01 | Zagor | Paul_The_Nerd: that would make the world implode |
| 23:40:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | At the *very* least |
| 23:40:12 | sharpe | yeah, just leave them in the room alone, they'll battle it out. |
| 23:42:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | One of you with Photoshop should replace the Rockbox logo .bmp with a special limited-edition Devcon one for the duration of the weekend. |
| 23:42:40 | linuxstb | Google-like? |
| 23:42:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Exactly |
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| 23:44:59 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/rockboxlogo.mikachu.png is the one i use :) |
| 23:45:15 | Mikachu | i didn't spend an awful lot of time on it |
| 23:46:28 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, that sounds fun! :) *starts photoshop* |
| 23:46:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I have an artist friend who's going to create me one (well, create herself one, but I get to use it too) just as soon as I flash the H120 I persuaded her to buy off ebay when she was seeking an MP3 player |
| 23:47:41 | afruff23_ | is it jsut me or did iRiver mes up on the H10 |
| 23:47:46 | afruff23_ | they took away many features |
| 23:47:49 | afruff23_ | just* |
| 23:48:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | From a business perspective they probably didn't mess it up very much. |
| 23:48:14 | Mikachu | http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/6179743542028408.JPG?0.5776242015561165 cute :) |
| 23:48:22 | midkay | afruff23_, what? |
| 23:48:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | It sells well for them, it probably costs them less to manufacture, etc. |
| 23:48:28 | linuxstb | I assume that they had to rewrite their firmware from scratch when they switched to PortalPlayer. |
| 23:48:41 | linuxstb | Probably just using off-the-shelf modules from PP. |
| 23:49:06 | afruff23_ | The H10 has some key features missing that were present in older models |
| 23:49:26 | afruff23_ | the US version especially suffered(with no UMS) |
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| 23:51:12 | afruff23_ | can somebody find a link about FM radio in Europe and the tax on them? |
| 23:51:17 | afruff23_ | I can't find one |
| 23:52:07 | | Join webguest69 [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:52:12 | Zagor | tax? |
| 23:52:32 | afruff23_ | That's why iAudio made the X5V with no fm radio |
| 23:52:37 | webguest69 | LinusN: sorry crappy conection :( |
| 23:52:52 | afruff23_ | so more people could afford the X5 |
| 23:53:07 | webguest69 | LinusN: what's about the usb handling |
| 23:53:09 | afruff23_ | tax, licensing fee, something like that |
| 23:53:42 | webguest69 | it's important for one bootloader, are you working on it by any luck ? |
| 23:53:52 | webguest69 | @LinusN |
| 23:55:03 | LinusN | the x5 loader will not have usb mode |
| 23:55:30 | LinusN | because the cowon loader has it already |
| 23:56:19 | afruff23_ | So does this mean I don't have to change any options before attaching it to the computer? I could jsut turn it off and connect it to the computer? |
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| 23:56:22 | afruff23_ | just* |
| 23:56:42 | webguest69 | LinusN: not impoortant , right? |
| 23:57:19 | linuxstb | afruff23_: Who told you that iaudio excluded fm radio for tax reasons? |
| 23:57:25 | webguest69 | I'm refering to the Wiki page saying usb handling 0% |
| 23:57:52 | webguest69 | and missing too to power management −− in what way? |
| 23:58:10 | afruff23_ | the X5 with fm radio exists in the EU but it is a ridiculous amount more xpensive than the X5V(no FM) version |
| 23:58:22 | webguest69 | still @ LinusN :) |
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