00:00:17 | LinusN | so it is likely to be the one we already have drivers for |
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00:00:30 | qwm | Cassandra: are you british? |
00:01:04 | Mikachu | what happened to the cam? |
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00:02:51 | webguest69 | LinusN: good news |
00:03:10 | afruff23_ | I don't knwo, but now there is a link on the page describing the devcon |
00:04:07 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort |
00:04:17 | Paprica | the iriver lcd driver still 90%? |
00:04:23 | Paprica | h300 |
00:04:24 | Paprica | ... |
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00:06:16 | Paprica | LinusN, amiconn? |
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00:08:04 | Zagor | Mikachu: the webcam software switched directory at midnight... |
00:08:14 | Mikachu | oh, clever |
00:08:27 | B4gder | Creative makes clever things |
00:08:40 | midkay | http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/4867/rockbox400dc5nc.png !!!!! |
00:08:41 | B4gder | that's why we had to skip its upload feature and write our own |
00:08:42 | sharpe | :( |
00:09:17 | Paprica | midkay nice |
00:09:22 | B4gder | neeeeat |
00:09:29 | midkay | :) |
00:09:32 | Zagor | I'll put it up |
00:09:36 | B4gder | go go go |
00:09:39 | midkay | cool! :) |
00:09:58 | sharpe | yay midkay! |
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00:09:58 | afruff23_ | nice, but what is this for exactly? |
00:10:06 | afruff23_ | @midkay |
00:10:19 | Paprica | Zagor, why cant i delete my own files on the traker? |
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00:10:24 | midkay | afruff23_, Paul_the_Nerd suggested a devcon 2006 weekend "special" logo.. |
00:10:27 | midkay | just messing around :) |
00:10:41 | Zagor | Paprica: reporters can not delete anything, only devs can |
00:10:51 | Paprica | im in the devs group |
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00:11:08 | Paprica | i'm Ben Basha |
00:11:11 | Zagor | Paprica: hmm, i'll take a look then |
00:11:18 | Paprica | ok |
00:11:18 | XavierGr | wow! Hello to all of Devcon |
00:11:22 | sharpe | midkay, i've a problem :) |
00:11:29 | midkay | sharpe, hm? |
00:11:30 | XavierGr | It must be midnight there. |
00:11:41 | sharpe | heheh, one sec... |
00:12:02 | XavierGr | so the guy that talks to amiconn now is...? |
00:12:22 | Zagor | jörg |
00:12:32 | sharpe | yay "wpzip.c:(.text.plugin_start+0x7c): undefined reference to `memset'" |
00:12:35 | Zagor | i.e. [IDC]Dragon |
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00:12:54 | XavierGr | nice, now I have to see Lostlogic and Cassandra :D |
00:13:03 | Mikachu | sharpe: try rb->memset |
00:13:13 | sharpe | no, it's not that... |
00:13:24 | sharpe | i don't even have memset in plugin_start() :) |
00:14:06 | Zagor | Paprica: that permission wasn't set for anyone... fixed now |
00:14:18 | Paprica | ok, thanks |
00:14:31 | B4gder | sharpe: its a known side-effect of gcc using memset internally for initing variables |
00:14:42 | sharpe | ah |
00:14:55 | B4gder | you can change the init, or provide a function of your own called memset that calls rb->memseet |
00:15:14 | sharpe | okay, thank you |
00:15:19 | B4gder | we should wiki it one day |
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00:15:32 | linuxstb | Or put memset in the plugin lib? |
00:15:40 | linuxstb | Ah, but there's no rb-> there... |
00:16:30 | Mikachu | is it possible to extract the boot logo from the ipod? |
00:16:41 | Mikachu | or can i find it somewhere? |
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00:17:00 | linuxstb | You mean the Apple logo? |
00:17:03 | Mikachu | yeah |
00:17:09 | sharpe | ah, thanks B4gder, it's fine now :) |
00:17:19 | linuxstb | That will be part of the flash bootloader - which is encrypted on disk. |
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00:17:31 | Mikachu | okay.. |
00:17:35 | linuxstb | Maybe the flash can be read from inside Rockbox though - I've never tried it. |
00:17:36 | Mikachu | can you read data back from the lcd? |
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00:18:23 | afruff23_ | Once rockbox for the iPod is released will it be completely UMS? |
00:18:30 | B4gder | it already is |
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00:18:36 | linuxstb | It always was... |
00:18:42 | Mikachu | what's ums? |
00:18:51 | afruff23_ | universal mass storage |
00:19:03 | Mikachu | ah |
00:19:04 | afruff23_ | shows up as a hard drive on computer |
00:19:10 | afruff23_ | ipod already had it before rockbox |
00:19:20 | Mikachu | rockbox doesn't show up as anything currently when you plug it in |
00:19:23 | afruff23_ | but you couldn't use files on it witout a computer |
00:19:28 | B4gder | usb mass storage I thought |
00:19:36 | Mikachu | unless you count the reboot to emergency disk mode... |
00:19:40 | afruff23_ | that's the same thing B4dger |
00:19:45 | B4gder | uh |
00:19:54 | B4gder | universal is not equal to usb |
00:20:07 | afruff23_ | it's the same concept |
00:20:09 | B4gder | I meant what the abbrivation stands for |
00:20:16 | sharpe | hmm... finite difference between the two... |
00:20:18 | afruff23_ | the abrreviation is actually universal |
00:20:30 | afruff23_ | because it could apply to firewire devices ass well |
00:20:36 | afruff23_ | as* |
00:20:47 | Mikachu | From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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00:20:47 | Mikachu | UMS can refer to: |
00:20:48 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Mikachu |
00:20:48 | Mikachu | * USB mass storage device class |
00:20:58 | B4gder | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMS |
00:21:16 | B4gder | so I was righter ;-) |
00:21:25 | afruff23_ | I guess so |
00:21:42 | sharpe | yay data aborts... :( |
00:21:55 | afruff23_ | doesn't matter but I think it sould've been labelled universal mass storage so it could apply to non-USB devices |
00:22:20 | linuxstb | B4gder: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUsbHandling#General :) |
00:22:55 | B4gder | haha |
00:23:36 | linuxstb | A google for "Universal Mass Storage" gives that link on page #2 |
00:23:59 | sharpe | ahey, i go from a 'data abort' to a 'undefined instruction'... wonderful. |
00:24:18 | afruff23_ | So this means I have to turn on the player before attaching it to computer? |
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00:25:02 | linuxstb | afruff23_: What means that? |
00:25:18 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
00:25:18 | * | petur waves at devcon crew and goes packing for his holiday - happy devcon! |
00:25:37 | B4gder | happy holiday petur |
00:25:42 | afruff23_ | Does that link you provided mean that I have to turn on the X5 before attaching to the computer in USB mode? |
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00:26:09 | linuxstb | No, it just defines what happens when you plug USB in when Rockbox is running. |
00:27:20 | linuxstb | On the irivers for example, the bootloader has its own usb mode - so if you plugin in USB, then turn on your player, the bootloader will enter usb mode, and then start Rockbox when you remove the usb cable. |
00:27:35 | afruff23_ | also, how does the X5 coldfire CPU compare to other players such as the iPod |
00:28:10 | Bger | nite |
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00:28:25 | markun | bagawk: are you guys going to pull an all-nighter? |
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00:29:11 | markun | Bagder: that was for you |
00:29:36 | XavierGr | who is the guy standing right now? |
00:29:45 | XavierGr | not now |
00:29:48 | XavierGr | now |
00:30:09 | Zagor | XavierGr: he's an alien. you never saw him. |
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00:30:23 | XavierGr | Alieans were coats? |
00:30:31 | XavierGr | ^wear |
00:30:34 | linuxstb | It's cold in Sweden... |
00:30:45 | * | qwm wants an audio feed from the devcon |
00:30:47 | XavierGr | is it Brandon? |
00:30:48 | B4gder | -7C atm |
00:30:52 | XavierGr | brrr.... |
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00:31:32 | sharpe | :( |
00:32:56 | Paprica | amiconn? |
00:33:09 | linuxstb | afruff23_: I would say the iPods have slightly more horsepower (two 75MHz ARM cores), but it's not significant. Rockbox is well optimised for the Coldfire already. |
00:33:20 | amiconn | Paprica: yes? |
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00:34:26 | Paprica | isnt it (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort#H3x0) need some change after your lcd changes commit? |
00:34:40 | * | amiconn checks |
00:35:29 | afruff23_ | is USB OTG planned or not because it's on the todo list but the wikipedia article on rockbox says that USB-OTG is not possible |
00:35:54 | linuxstb | afruff23_: Yes, it's planned - where the hardware supports it. |
00:35:59 | amiconn | Well, I don't think so |
00:36:08 | amiconn | (that was directed at Paprica) |
00:36:14 | Paprica | ok |
00:36:16 | Paprica | =] |
00:36:36 | Paprica | just checking is it need to stay in 90 |
00:36:37 | Paprica | 5 |
00:36:38 | Paprica | % |
00:36:41 | amiconn | LCD flip is rather minor, compared to the still slow mono bitmap drawing |
00:36:46 | Paprica | if is it* |
00:36:53 | amiconn | Perhaps 92% |
00:36:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23_: Not possible, or just unsupported? |
00:36:57 | markun | afruff23_: petur is looking into it |
00:37:04 | Paprica | blah my english =\ |
00:37:07 | Mikachu | has the webcam page said 'The conspiracy' at the top the whole time? |
00:37:11 | Paprica | hhaa |
00:37:13 | Paprica | =] |
00:37:22 | afruff23_ | So the only thing removed from the X5 in the rockbox firmware will be WMA support, half-assed DRM, and lyrics? |
00:37:25 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes. |
00:37:28 | sharpe | guess what i just got! |
00:37:35 | B4gder | Mikachu: ssshhhhh don't tell anyone |
00:37:39 | afruff23_ | how will lyrics be implemented?(not that I need them) |
00:37:54 | Mikachu | you could open text files while listening :) |
00:38:02 | B4gder | there's lyrics patch around |
00:38:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23_: It would depend entirely on how someone coded the feature. There's a patch in the tracker. |
00:38:07 | linuxstb | afruff23_: There is already at least one patch that gives Rockbox lyrics support. I'm sure WMA will appear eventually. |
00:38:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: There was someone in the forums who's started working on fixed-point WMA again. |
00:38:33 | Mikachu | ooh sorry ;) |
00:38:52 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Has he/she actually started, or is it just good intentions? |
00:39:07 | afruff23_ | This is good, Rockbox will completely replace my current firmware on my X5. I have no WMA or DRM. |
00:39:23 | sharpe | you say it like drm is a music format... |
00:39:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Says he's got some work done on it. Now it's "hybrid" where he says he's got it mostly fixed point, except for some sticky areas. |
00:39:33 | linuxstb | Cool. |
00:39:52 | linuxstb | I'll be able to play my wma file soon then. |
00:40:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Singular? |
00:40:04 | lostlogic | linuxstb: you have one? |
00:40:06 | lostlogic | :) |
00:40:21 | linuxstb | Just the one. |
00:40:29 | linuxstb | A webcast that I captured. |
00:40:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm going to have to encode one just so that I have a WMA on an iPod. |
00:40:47 | Mikachu | i couldn't even find a camera picture of the apple logo while booting.. |
00:41:04 | linuxstb | Mikachu: You could ask on #ipodlinux |
00:41:12 | afruff23_ | I know DRM isn't a format. It's part of bought WMA files and iTunes files |
00:41:26 | B4gder | I compared the h300 LCD with the iPod video LCD |
00:41:28 | sharpe | i know, it's just funny when i read stuff... |
00:41:37 | Mikachu | linuxstb: that sounds a bit scary |
00:41:53 | B4gder | the ipod one is just *so* nice |
00:42:05 | linuxstb | B4gder: I know :) Tried pacbox? |
00:42:22 | Mikachu | it would be nice if they supported hardware sprites :) |
00:42:26 | B4gder | no, I just ran some simple plugis to compare the LCDs |
00:42:33 | B4gder | cube, credits, plasma |
00:43:16 | B4gder | it made we want one ;-) |
00:43:32 | XavierGr | what is better exactly? |
00:43:41 | B4gder | the look |
00:43:51 | B4gder | crisper somehow |
00:44:06 | B4gder | the credits scroll is solid and not as "flickery" |
00:44:14 | linuxstb | I don't like the new clickwheel though - the 4g's version feels much more solid. |
00:44:27 | Mikachu | how did they change it? |
00:44:44 | afruff23_ | I think it's smaller |
00:45:02 | afruff23_ | ANd the button changed or something |
00:45:05 | linuxstb | Yes, the 5g's wheel is slightly smaller, and just feels cheaper. |
00:45:08 | Mikachu | are there any nanos at the devcon? |
00:45:10 | sharpe | hey midkay, i haven't had any success... |
00:45:20 | B4gder | Mikachu: Cassandra has one |
00:45:32 | midkay | sharpe, argh :( |
00:45:37 | Mikachu | how does it compare to the 4g and 5g wheel? |
00:46:17 | sharpe | i keep getting 'undefined instruction at <insert arbitrary address here>' for anything i try... :( |
00:46:26 | B4gder | I didn't try much |
00:46:56 | linuxstb | sharpe: Have you initialised rb ? |
00:47:10 | sharpe | aye cap'n |
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00:47:42 | linuxstb | Have a look at the map file generated for your plugin - that will tell you where that arbitrary address is. |
00:47:58 | sharpe | ohkays... |
00:49:01 | sharpe | mm |
00:49:03 | sharpe | found it |
00:49:15 | sharpe | er |
00:49:21 | sharpe | no, wrong plugin. |
00:50:39 | afruff23_ | what will happen to video on the X5? |
00:51:54 | linuxstb | Nothing. You'll still have video in the iaudio firmware. |
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00:52:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, no, you're not supposed to reassure him. "If you attempt to play a video file in Rockbox, to punish you for your ignorance it will reflash over your firmware image with all 0s, then format your disk, before restarting your player." |
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00:52:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | See, that's an appropriate response. |
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00:53:11 | sharpe | lol... |
00:53:39 | linuxstb | I thought that's how Rockbox dealt with WMA files? |
00:53:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | No no no... WMAs write over the whole firmware image with _1s_ |
00:53:59 | afruff23_ | What I meant is will video be supported in Rockbox without having to switch to the iAudio firmware |
00:54:08 | afruff23_ | paul, I assume you were sarcastic |
00:54:43 | XavierGr | afruff23_: you assume. you will not be sure unless you try |
00:54:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23_: If someone programs it, Rockbox could potentially support video playback, but at the moment it's more focused on simply being the best audio player it can be. And yeah, that was sarcasm. |
00:54:49 | sharpe | wouldn't it suck if he wasn't? :) |
00:55:05 | XavierGr | ah you ruined it :) |
00:55:32 | * | linuxstb starts a special video playback plugin |
00:55:41 | sharpe | eh, midkay, i'm not having any progress... at all... |
00:55:58 | midkay | sharpe, what's the deal specifically? won't load? won't compile? won't run" |
00:56:00 | midkay | ?* |
00:56:04 | sharpe | won't run |
00:56:05 | sharpe | :) |
00:56:07 | sharpe | well |
00:56:07 | Mikachu | sharpe: what are you doing? |
00:56:12 | Paprica | linuxstb, good luck =] |
00:56:16 | linuxstb | sharpe: Do you want to post the source somewhere? Many eyes... |
00:56:20 | midkay | sharpe, no warnings on compile or anything? |
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00:56:26 | sharpe | no warnings... |
00:56:49 | midkay | sharpe, well, what exactly does the plugin do? |
00:56:59 | sharpe | mmm |
00:57:03 | midkay | is it just told to load a WPS file or does it have all the zip code in it and everything? |
00:57:07 | sharpe | generates a nice, fancy error emssage. |
00:57:11 | sharpe | just the wps |
00:57:30 | sharpe | emssage, like an e-massage, but more like a message at the same time. |
00:57:44 | midkay | haha. |
00:57:52 | midkay | sharpe, what error? |
00:58:12 | sharpe | undefined instruction one i said something about earlier |
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00:58:17 | Mikachu | heh, daps and a cola can |
00:58:24 | Mikachu | oh no, it was picked up |
00:58:47 | midkay | sharpe, didn't see that, sorry.. |
00:58:52 | sharpe | :) |
00:58:52 | ModernExecutive | can i ask a question about how rockbox renders while-playing screens? |
00:58:59 | [IDC]Dragon | how about a live Archos HD change? |
00:59:20 | * | linuxstb grabs the popcorn |
00:59:27 | * | [IDC]Dragon needs to fix Christis Player |
00:59:33 | sharpe | campfire song time! |
00:59:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | It would be that something fun would happen right when I'm about to leave for a date. |
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01:00:08 | Mikachu | ModernExecutive: feel free |
01:00:17 | midkay | sharpe, hmm.. well, i'd probably try to narrow it down a bit.. comment out the loading code and firstly just have it draw some text on the LCD and make sure that works so you know it's not a rockbox/api/something else kind of error.. if the drawing works, i'd maybe set it up so that pressing SELECT executes the command to load the WPS and then see if the plugin still runs.. |
01:00:28 | midkay | and see what happens when select is pressed.. for example. |
01:00:35 | sharpe | kays. |
01:00:39 | ModernExecutive | I am wondering if it's possible to control the y-coordinate placement of a few lines of text |
01:00:40 | linuxstb | sharpe: Also, are you using the sim? |
01:00:46 | sharpe | nope |
01:00:54 | Mikachu | ModernExecutive: right now i think it isn't |
01:00:56 | sharpe | i actually have problems of my own with the sim. |
01:01:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | ModernExecutive: Not currently. You could always code a patch for it. :) |
01:01:02 | sharpe | therefore, i use my player. |
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01:01:10 | ModernExecutive | PTN: i'm considering it |
01:01:37 | ModernExecutive | i just wanted to know what challenges i'd be up against |
01:01:51 | linuxstb | ModernExecutive: The intention is viewports - but no-one has coded it yet. |
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01:02:36 | MrStaticVoid | what are they doing with the cam? |
01:02:58 | B4gder | jörg is doing surgory |
01:03:01 | linuxstb | Must be preparing for the live Archos HD change... |
01:03:06 | [IDC]Dragon | live OP footage |
01:03:17 | ModernExecutive | also, the %m code in wpses. there's no talk about it in the wiki, but that looks like the most promising place to start w/ a patch |
01:03:21 | linuxstb | Is this going to be bloody? |
01:03:26 | ModernExecutive | i was just curious what %m does |
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01:04:07 | herz42 | lostlogic: regarding the gpioE bit 0: On my ipv behaviour is the same as you describe, only the bit is low active (reversed) here!? |
01:04:16 | XavierGr | wow they cannibalizing it |
01:04:34 | herz42 | and it flips back to 1 sometimes when hdd is active even if backlight is on... |
01:04:46 | lostlogic | herz42: I might have misspoken in jetlag. |
01:04:55 | lostlogic | lemme take a look again |
01:05:04 | herz42 | There seems to be some strange external circuit connected to the bits that affect backlight (B3, E0, L7). |
01:06:20 | lostlogic | herz42: bit 0 goes low when the backlight goes off here with USB connected |
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01:06:41 | herz42 | yes, same here |
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01:06:53 | sharpe | midkay, it doesn't seem to be anything with the plugin or api... |
01:07:05 | sharpe | just when i call those functions i added... :) |
01:07:22 | midkay | sharpe, so, did you try case BUTTON_SELECT: loadwps(); ? :) |
01:07:47 | sharpe | in a different form, yes |
01:07:50 | lostlogic | herz42: when plugging and unplugging accessories, have you seen th eipod go poof and hard shutdown? |
01:08:04 | midkay | so you got the error.. when you pressed the button or when you ran it? |
01:08:05 | herz42 | poof? :) |
01:08:09 | sharpe | button |
01:08:14 | lostlogic | herz42: physical shutdown |
01:08:18 | midkay | sharpe, hmm.. alright.. |
01:08:48 | sharpe | so, i must be doing something wrong with those two functions i added to the plugin api to see if it would load a wps... |
01:08:50 | midkay | sharpe, well, i can't say much from here.. you must be calling it wrong or it may be set up incorrectly in the API.. |
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01:09:02 | herz42 | no, never had a shutdown. But I have reversed the MENU button on USB insert. |
01:09:16 | Mikachu | sharpe: maybe you forgot to add the functions both to plugin.c and plugin.h? |
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01:09:26 | Mikachu | sharpe: in the same order |
01:09:26 | herz42 | So it will never switch to USB mode by itself... |
01:09:29 | sharpe | nope, added them both... |
01:09:32 | Mikachu | kay |
01:09:39 | afruff23_ | since there is no video support, does this mean I will be able to set shuffle to all folders and not have movies end up in the shuffle? |
01:09:52 | Mikachu | it should only add supported files to the playlist |
01:10:01 | afruff23_ | that's great |
01:10:06 | midkay | afruff23_, no, movies will play when you have shuffle enabled, but they don't work at all when you try to play them directly. ;) |
01:10:10 | sharpe | hmm... i wonder what set_option does... if it'd be of any use... |
01:10:12 | lostlogic | herz42: interesting |
01:10:32 | linuxstb | sharpe: It's for menus giving the user a choice between a set of options. |
01:10:38 | sharpe | thank you. |
01:10:48 | linuxstb | I added it recently for pacbox. |
01:10:53 | herz42 | lostlogic: when does that happen for you? Only with USB? |
01:10:56 | sharpe | ah... |
01:11:16 | sharpe | well, i'm out of ideas... :( |
01:11:16 | lostlogic | herz42: any accessory when plugging and unplugging frequently |
01:11:26 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i added support to pacbox to switch between two sets of roms, because i found an alternate modded set he calls xen's revenge, but it looks like it doesn't work quite right :) |
01:11:47 | Mikachu | i got ghosts that started flying right across the maze |
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01:12:21 | linuxstb | You could try those ROMs with PIE - the emulator pacbox is based on. |
01:12:27 | sharpe | heh... any advice on trying to load a wps thru a plugin anyone? :) |
01:12:38 | afruff23_ | midkay, I don't understand, so movies will still end up in the shuffle but not play? Or will they not end up in the shuffle at all? |
01:12:50 | midkay | afruff23_, i was kidding. |
01:13:01 | herz42 | lostlogic: just tried to plug usb/power/headphone 5x each. no problem |
01:13:10 | midkay | anything not audio will not play during shuffle. |
01:13:19 | afruff23_ | OK |
01:14:09 | sharpe | hmm... my pencil was made in japan. |
01:14:22 | qwm | what is wrong with you afruff23_ |
01:14:57 | sharpe | however, the pen was made in indonesia. |
01:15:07 | sharpe | but they're made by the same company. |
01:15:14 | sharpe | er, distributed at least. |
01:15:15 | XavierGr | what about your rubber? |
01:15:29 | sharpe | no clue? |
01:15:43 | afruff23_ | qwm, I didn't udnerstand if they meant that movies will be in the shuffle and not play or would they not come up in the shuffle at all. |
01:15:43 | sharpe | i've no rubber glove boxes around |
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01:16:16 | midkay | sharpe, maybe one of the devs who knows more about the WPS/tree/file loading has a better idea.. any of the core devs probably knows.. |
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01:16:32 | sharpe | yeah... |
01:17:02 | linuxstb | sharpe: Are you trying to load a zipped wps file? |
01:17:07 | sharpe | nah |
01:17:12 | sharpe | just a plain wps |
01:17:18 | Paprica | LinusN, did you start to work on the viewports? |
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01:17:40 | sharpe | the zipped wps is what comes after the wps loads... |
01:17:49 | LinusN | i once did, but i scrapped it |
01:17:52 | sharpe | er, what i'm going to work on. |
01:18:10 | Paprica | oh |
01:18:17 | linuxstb | That's what I meant - your aim is to load a zipped wps? |
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01:18:42 | sharpe | okay, my pen is made in indonesia, my pencil is made in japan, and they're both distributed by a company named after a striped animal that lives in the african plains. |
01:18:59 | sharpe | yeah, but it's more likely going to be in an unzipped format, as i've already got the code for that |
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01:19:28 | XavierGr | anyone thought of a zip implementation for loading wps'es? |
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01:19:57 | linuxstb | I would start by just adding your code to the rockbox core. After it's working there, then think about moving it to a plugin. |
01:20:20 | sharpe | the code for the zip? |
01:20:23 | sharpe | or...? |
01:20:48 | Zoide7777 | hi guys |
01:20:53 | Mikachu | linuxstb: http://www.xensei.com/users/jeffm/www/pacman/xens-revenge/ if you want to try it |
01:21:05 | Zoide7777 | are there any plans for tagdatabase for this devcon? |
01:21:21 | afruff23_ | I thought tagdatabase is part of the generic rockbox? |
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01:21:36 | Mikachu | ah, the thing with the floating ghosts is acknowledged there |
01:21:38 | afruff23_ | meaning it's on all rockbox'd devices |
01:21:40 | Mikachu | so it's not my fault |
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01:22:09 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Looks fun. |
01:22:14 | Zoide7777 | afruff23_:well, there is a version, but it's old. there's a new one in development |
01:22:16 | Zoide7777 | tagcache |
01:22:24 | Zoide7777 | oops, that was the name... that's why i confused you |
01:22:30 | Zoide7777 | (I mistook the names) |
01:22:39 | Mikachu | linuxstb: here's my stab at a selector patch, http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-pacbox_xens_revenge.patch |
01:22:41 | linuxstb | Mikachu: How does your patch work? Adding support for other romsets is on my to-do list, but I haven't really thought about it. |
01:22:43 | Mikachu | linuxstb: it'll just ask on startup |
01:22:43 | Zoide7777 | *mixed up |
01:22:43 | sharpe | you know what's cool? those really long pieces of 'lead' for mechanical pencils you get in them when you buy the pencils. |
01:22:49 | [IDC]Dragon | that "new" HD makes grinding noises |
01:23:03 | [IDC]Dragon | maybe this was no win |
01:23:15 | afruff23_ | forfor what device? |
01:23:24 | Mikachu | linuxstb: there are some lines that depend on the absolute wheel but i think it's obvious which ones they are :) |
01:23:30 | [IDC]Dragon | a 4 GB disk for a Player |
01:26:18 | Mikachu | http://patsy.cis.rit.edu/Software/turacoCL/classic/ |
01:27:02 | sharpe | well, i don't know what to do now... |
01:27:48 | afruff23_ | I don't see any X5-specific items in the agenda for the devcon or are they just not listed |
01:28:36 | linuxstb | sharpe: What unzip code have you used as your source? |
01:28:48 | sharpe | my own... ? |
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01:29:10 | linuxstb | Any reason for that? |
01:29:17 | sharpe | couldn't find anything else? |
01:29:38 | linuxstb | What about info-zip's unzip? |
01:30:23 | Mikachu | linuxstb: wow, http://home.online.no/~mrroboto/pacmania/the-emulators/the-roms.htm |
01:30:32 | sharpe | the only unzipping is from an uncompressed zip file, and it's not really zipped anymore, it's more of a stored pack of files... but, it does work. i've a plugin that reads uncompressed zip files and will extract them... |
01:31:54 | Mikachu | i guess some of those won't work |
01:33:34 | Mikachu | linuxstb: maybe generating the menu from subdirs would be a better idea |
01:33:43 | Mikachu | if more than two or three of these work |
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01:37:17 | Zoide7777 | ow, this guy looks hardcore: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3051.0 |
01:37:22 | Zoide7777 | *wow |
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01:37:33 | sharpe | so linuxstb, any ideas to my .wps related dilemma? :) |
01:38:21 | [IDC]Dragon | Brandon on the cam... |
01:38:38 | [IDC]Dragon | left of me |
01:39:12 | Zoide7777 | what are you guys doing to all those archoses? |
01:39:51 | LinusN | open heart surgery |
01:39:58 | sharpe | archocaust? :\ |
01:40:07 | Zoide7777 | hmmm |
01:40:08 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes, putting extra ROMs in subdirectories would be a simple solution. |
01:40:55 | sharpe | ever thought what the hohocaust would be like? little debbie twinkenau concentration camp :( |
01:41:03 | XavierGr | does anyone know how to copy paste to coLinux console? |
01:41:07 | Mikachu | hm, not so many of these are .5e and so on |
01:41:16 | Moos | Hello all |
01:41:24 | XavierGr | Hi |
01:41:27 | Zoide7777 | hi |
01:41:37 | midkay | sharpe, HAHA. |
01:41:38 | sharpe | hello |
01:42:08 | sharpe | instead of the 'final solution,' the 'final recipe' |
01:42:14 | * | Moos is looking at the devcon conspiracy :-) |
01:42:50 | muesli__ | when does devcon start? |
01:42:54 | muesli__ | s |
01:43:00 | sharpe | already started... |
01:43:03 | Mikachu | muesli__: http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ |
01:43:03 | sharpe | i thinks |
01:43:11 | Moos | lostlogic and Gragoon on front, right? |
01:43:16 | Moos | *Dragoon |
01:43:17 | midkay | sharpe, hahaha |
01:43:52 | muesli__ | Mikachu :-) |
01:44:14 | sharpe | hohocaust : the genocide of nabiscoism |
01:44:54 | midkay | hahaha :) |
01:44:55 | muesli__ | whoever is there, start striptease ;) |
01:45:09 | sharpe | okay, think i'm done with that idea for a while |
01:45:18 | sharpe | anyone... ideas? :-P |
01:45:27 | midkay | sharpe, ask.. someone!! |
01:45:36 | sharpe | for what? |
01:46:13 | Moos | muesli: hehe :-) |
01:46:31 | Mikachu | muesli__: are you pankraz.de? |
01:46:40 | Moos | LinusN appear to be bored, are you? |
01:47:05 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN is lecturing about power drain on iRiver |
01:47:17 | XavierGr | good to know |
01:47:34 | Moos | wow |
01:47:37 | XavierGr | the H300 has a very hard time with power draining |
01:47:44 | [IDC]Dragon | we're pretty sleepy here |
01:47:44 | muesli__ | Mikachu lol..no im not..susi sorglos is just a stupid name of an old german comedian |
01:47:53 | Mikachu | muesli__: hehe, okay |
01:48:07 | afruff23_ | Xavier, what do you mean |
01:48:14 | afruff23_ | the abttery doesn't last long? |
01:48:28 | XavierGr | yes |
01:48:38 | Moos | affruff23_: X5 user? |
01:48:42 | XavierGr | at least as much as the H300 |
01:48:43 | afruff23_ | yes |
01:48:52 | afruff23_ | I have the X5L 20 |
01:48:55 | muesli__ | Mikachu sorglos= free of problems |
01:49:14 | sharpe | midkay... there's like, no options left for the possibility of the packed wps zips through a plugin... it makes me sad :( |
01:49:17 | Mikachu | ah, it's the same in swedish but with two dots :) |
01:49:22 | Moos | affruff23_: the Cowan firmware apear to be hungry in batterie, let's hope on LinusN and Rockbox for increase this ;-) |
01:49:23 | afruff23_ | what about you? |
01:49:34 | midkay | sharpe, due to the fact that you can't figure out the errors? |
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01:49:40 | sharpe | damn straight. |
01:49:48 | Moos | affruff23_: X5 60 gb here (+iriver ihp140 and Ondio) |
01:49:49 | midkay | sharpe, hmmm.. |
01:50:07 | muesli__ | Moos really? i thought iaudios are most effective |
01:50:11 | muesli__ | 35h of runtime!? |
01:50:15 | afruff23_ | the X5 has lots of powersaving options though, doesn't it? |
01:50:20 | Moos | with big batterie yes |
01:50:27 | sharpe | i get... ~9 hours on my ipod :\ |
01:50:32 | afruff23_ | In reality, you get about 27 hours though |
01:50:53 | Mikachu | wow |
01:50:57 | Mikachu | % lgrep /shot.jpg access.log|cut -f 1 -d \ |sort -u|wc -l |
01:50:57 | Mikachu | 122 |
01:51:00 | sharpe | well, at least you know you can trek through the desert for a day while listening to music. |
01:51:06 | Moos | muesli: I preafered to choose storage than batterie |
01:51:20 | midkay | sharpe, well.. get LinusN' or Bagder's or amiconn's attention ;) |
01:51:24 | XavierGr | I get 25 with my 1900 mah battery on my H160 |
01:51:47 | afruff23_ | It also helps to have a large battery because you know that the wear and tear will not be apparent |
01:51:58 | sharpe | well, there are many ways of doing so... however, i think most ways would be illegal in most places, so... asking politely will ensue. |
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01:52:14 | Moos | XavierGr: hehe I did forget about your h160 mutant one :) |
01:52:27 | Moos | is still alife? |
01:52:28 | afruff23_ | over time, smaller capacity batteries will have unbearble battery times |
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01:52:45 | XavierGr | Moos: Pride owner of it. |
01:52:47 | * | muesli__ hands some noodles to needleboy ;) |
01:52:50 | XavierGr | :) |
01:52:55 | Moos | hehe :) |
01:53:13 | * | [IDC]Dragon got wlan connect |
01:53:19 | muesli__ | sorry, that stupid remark was sitting in my mouth for ages ;) |
01:53:25 | Moos | what time is it at the devconf? |
01:53:27 | * | Mikachu hands some needles to noodleboy |
01:53:31 | Mikachu | Moos: 1:53 |
01:53:32 | [IDC]Dragon | lets try what happens if I pull the cable |
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01:53:43 | [IDC]Dragon | stand by... |
01:53:44 | sharpe | lol... |
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01:54:02 | [IDC]Dragon | test |
01:54:10 | Mikachu | it workes |
01:54:13 | sharpe | yay |
01:54:29 | [IDC]Dragon | still here? |
01:54:37 | XavierGr | in flesh? |
01:54:39 | sharpe | t'would seem so. |
01:55:38 | linuxstb | sharpe: I still say to simply add your code to core Rockbox, rather than as a plugin. |
01:56:00 | afruff23_ | Does anybody know the mA rating of the X5L battery? |
01:56:04 | sharpe | i was just trying to see if it'd be possible really... |
01:56:10 | Mikachu | afruff23_: you mean mAh? |
01:56:18 | sharpe | the loading of the .wps with a plugin... |
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01:56:42 | sharpe | but, okay, i will try... |
01:57:46 | afruff23_ | yea mikachu |
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01:57:55 | afruff23_ | what's the "H" stand for though |
01:57:59 | muesli__ | btw does the h300 lcd works properly with the last remote patch? |
01:58:05 | sharpe | ma/hour |
01:58:21 | [IDC]Dragon_ | the net survived, but not IRC |
01:58:23 | Mikachu | no, mA * hour :) |
01:58:30 | sharpe | oh right |
01:58:37 | afruff23_ | How can I dind this number? |
01:58:39 | afruff23_ | find* |
01:58:44 | sharpe | sorry, i'm thinking of ratios tonight |
01:58:49 | Mikachu | You have: milliampere hour |
01:58:50 | Mikachu | You want: ? |
01:58:50 | Mikachu | C coulomb |
01:59:01 | afruff23_ | I want maH rating |
01:59:08 | afruff23_ | the most common rating for battery capacity |
01:59:15 | Mikachu | milli atto henry? |
01:59:27 | Mikachu | sorry :P |
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02:10:31 | Mikachu | omg a black nano |
02:10:41 | webguest15 | whoa, Jörg's table is in danger of being burried under a metric buttload of gadgets |
02:10:52 | Mikachu | showcasing the best webcam auto whitelevel ever |
02:11:03 | webguest15 | not to mention focus |
02:11:06 | sharpe | hey, lets start making bets on stuff. |
02:11:08 | webguest15 | Probably not auto |
02:11:22 | Moos | LinusN: have you got already something Rockbox runing into your X5 yet, for show us? :-) |
02:11:33 | Moos | like for ipod now |
02:13:16 | Mikachu | too bad you don't have one of those optical dampers we used on our physics labs |
02:13:22 | sharpe | gah. screw it... |
02:13:53 | Mikachu | sharpe: i bet no one will bet on anything |
02:14:06 | sharpe | i know, random idea |
02:14:19 | sharpe | 'screw it' was towards the packed wps zip idea :) |
02:14:34 | midkay | sharpe, nooo.. |
02:14:35 | midkay | :) |
02:14:45 | sharpe | heh |
02:14:46 | LinusN | Moos: it hangs right now :-) |
02:14:53 | LinusN | going to sleep... |
02:14:54 | LinusN | nite |
02:14:58 | midkay | nite LinusN |
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02:15:05 | XavierGr | good night all |
02:15:43 | [IDC]Dragon | good night with plasma |
02:16:02 | midkay | haha. |
02:17:06 | sharpe | you know what'd be funny and useless at the same time? |
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02:18:26 | midkay | what?! |
02:18:34 | sharpe | a compiler for rockbox! |
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02:18:43 | midkay | hyaa, that's funny.. hyaaaaaa.. |
02:18:45 | webguest15 | steam-powered rollerblades? |
02:18:48 | webguest15 | oh |
02:18:53 | Moos | Good night at all from Paris too |
02:19:01 | Mikachu | you could probably compile rockbox on ipl if you sat down and waited a while |
02:19:08 | midkay | night Moos |
02:19:20 | sharpe | g'night Moos |
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02:19:45 | sharpe | hmm, lets see what other completely useless ideas i have for rockbox |
02:20:52 | sharpe | what about, rb's own executable format, somewhat like a plugin, however almost all control is transferred to it. |
02:21:37 | midkay | what. |
02:22:03 | sharpe | i dunno... |
02:22:04 | Mikachu | again, ipl :P |
02:22:42 | sharpe | i'm bored... kind of sad and depressed for completely unrelated reasons, so i've nothing else to do but think of random things. |
02:23:02 | midkay | haha. |
02:25:22 | sharpe | so like, blah. |
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02:30:15 | sharpe | midkay, any ideas for me to work on but fail to soon after? |
02:30:40 | midkay | sharpe, hmm.. |
02:30:44 | midkay | well, tea kettle.. |
02:31:23 | webguest15 | tea kettle? |
02:31:37 | midkay | turn the ipod into a tea kettle.. |
02:31:37 | Mikachu | sharpe: try implementing conways game of life |
02:31:57 | sharpe | heh... |
02:32:04 | Mikachu | i did that on gba, lots of fun |
02:32:09 | webguest15 | That should be fairly simple and cute |
02:32:11 | webguest15 | go go go |
02:32:28 | sharpe | :P |
02:32:51 | webguest15 | Alternatively, a teapot demo (cube, except with the 3d teapot) |
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02:34:39 | webguest15 | (teapotahedron) |
02:34:47 | midkay | oh, that too.. |
02:36:01 | webguest15 | make it an easteregg in cube.c |
02:36:09 | sharpe | lol... |
02:36:13 | webguest15 | except I've now ruined it, and it's pretty hard to sneak an easteregg past cvs |
02:37:02 | sharpe | how about this, playback of one pixel movies? |
02:37:43 | Mikachu | you could probably encode a onepixel movie as a life pattern |
02:38:10 | sharpe | lol... |
02:38:25 | sharpe | lets encode the whole functionality of rb into a life pattern, and see if we can get it to work... |
02:38:26 | Mikachu | if you take the output as the state of a single life cell |
02:38:31 | Mikachu | should be possible :P |
02:38:50 | sharpe | hi |
02:38:55 | Mikachu | hello |
02:39:00 | sharpe | how are you? |
02:39:04 | sharpe | :) |
02:39:05 | Mikachu | i'm fine sir |
02:39:29 | sharpe | hmm... what about... |
02:39:36 | sharpe | dos for rb? |
02:39:56 | webguest15 | Pack a small rucksack and leave. Right now. We're coming for you! |
02:40:09 | sharpe | lol |
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02:41:12 | sharpe | i have a pencil... |
02:41:41 | Mikachu | don't lick it |
02:41:54 | sharpe | :- |
02:41:56 | sharpe | :\ |
02:42:23 | sharpe | it's saint patrick's day still, of course depending on where one lives. |
02:42:31 | Mikachu | i was thinking about this video i saw earlier today, maybe a bit nsfw, http://www.youtube.com/v/pfNBOMNlgYQ |
02:42:49 | Mikachu | s/was thinking/came to think of/ |
02:42:55 | Mikachu | a subtle but important difference |
02:43:09 | sharpe | god i hate you. |
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02:43:20 | sharpe | yay |
02:43:37 | sharpe | everytime i say i hate someone, someone's connection times out! |
02:43:45 | Mikachu | oooh, go again |
02:44:40 | sharpe | i must conserve my powers! |
02:45:21 | sharpe | oh noes! that's screaming music... |
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02:46:23 | sharpe | it's like happy, only worse. |
02:46:45 | sharpe | what was i going to do...? |
02:48:54 | Mikachu | i'm not sure, you're a bit unpredictable |
02:49:15 | sharpe | yeah, i've noticed that unfortunately |
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02:54:32 | Mikachu | heh, the plasma reflection in the table almost looks better than the direct view |
02:56:00 | sharpe | quick! i need two 60 watt light bulbs,twenty button cell batteries, six hundred plastic cubes, and sixty three pieces of felt! |
02:56:18 | Mikachu | see, i would never have guessed that |
02:57:02 | sharpe | that's what i'm here for. |
02:57:21 | sharpe | to provide that level of unpredictability to rockbox. |
02:57:38 | * | preglow returns |
02:58:41 | preglow | anything fun? |
02:58:47 | sharpe | no... |
02:58:51 | Mikachu | i think they went to bed |
02:58:53 | preglow | devcon people gone to bed? |
02:59:10 | Mikachu | the webcam is only the plasma plugin on a nano :) |
02:59:13 | preglow | :/ |
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02:59:52 | preglow | i'd have expected all of them to be in quite a vodka binge by now |
02:59:56 | preglow | perhaps they are :> |
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03:00:04 | Mikachu | haha |
03:00:09 | Mikachu | it's a conspiracy remember? |
03:00:12 | preglow | it is! |
03:00:16 | preglow | it's a huge drinking contest |
03:00:30 | preglow | and they're drinking away all the donation money |
03:00:34 | preglow | like the good honest people they are |
03:00:44 | preglow | and godspeed to them |
03:01:36 | preglow | Mikachu: you should drop by and do some webcam posing |
03:01:51 | Mikachu | heh, it's pretty far to stockholm |
03:02:04 | preglow | boulderdash! |
03:02:25 | Mikachu | isn't that "balderdash"? |
03:02:30 | preglow | i have no idea |
03:02:36 | preglow | i've only had it verbally |
03:02:39 | preglow | and i'm quite drunk |
03:02:40 | Mikachu | i think the name of the game was a pun on the word :) |
03:02:45 | Mikachu | ah, i see :) |
03:03:07 | preglow | which complicates the matter substantially |
03:03:42 | preglow | nothing like a nasty misspelling to kick off the night anyway |
03:04:59 | Mikachu | sure thing |
03:06:51 | preglow | what device are we watching anyway? |
03:07:10 | Mikachu | it looked like a nano with the lights on |
03:07:31 | preglow | someone time the battery on it!!!!1 |
03:08:48 | sharpe | but it may be charging... |
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03:09:41 | preglow | shoot |
03:09:44 | sharpe | :) |
03:09:45 | preglow | didn't tihnk of that |
03:10:03 | sharpe | quick! lets keep a copy of all of the images, and when it's all over, we'll make a movie! |
03:11:20 | preglow | surely, mikachu is doing that |
03:11:23 | preglow | Mikachu: aren't you, now |
03:11:25 | Mikachu | no |
03:11:39 | Mikachu | every image replaces the old one |
03:11:51 | preglow | i can only stand by and see so many possibilites for endless fun be ruined |
03:12:12 | preglow | if only i had a 100mbit server still.... |
03:15:52 | sharpe | what is databox for? |
03:16:24 | preglow | searching through the song database, afaik |
03:16:33 | sharpe | oh |
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03:18:10 | sharpe | this is like watching grass grow. |
03:18:22 | Mikachu | with drying paint on it |
03:18:29 | preglow | ahahah |
03:18:58 | sharpe | except it's emo grass like in that one quote, and it keeps cutting itself so it will never grow any farther, so it stays the same. |
03:18:59 | Mikachu | don't cry over spilled milk until you cross the bridge to get water |
03:19:00 | * | preglow gets water |
03:19:20 | sharpe | why not cross half the bridge to get water with a bucket and a rope? |
03:19:32 | Mikachu | preglow: k, you can cry over the spilled milk now |
03:19:56 | preglow | i can try |
03:20:24 | preglow | right now i'm just intent on fighting the hangover so i can attend the birthday party tomorrow, heh |
03:20:24 | Mikachu | but remember it won't boil over until you look away |
03:21:26 | * | preglow dies from proverb overdose |
03:21:32 | sharpe | yes, the laws of physics and thermodynamics can be defied by looking at a pot with almost boiling water. |
03:21:53 | Mikachu | you can't see the forest for all the tries until you cried wolf |
03:22:06 | Mikachu | er, trees |
03:22:51 | Mikachu | i think i've seen the beginning of boondock saints twice but never the whole movie |
03:23:14 | sharpe | gah, i don't want to go to sleep |
03:23:27 | sharpe | wait, no |
03:23:37 | sharpe | i don't want to do what i have to do when i wake up. |
03:23:48 | preglow | haha |
03:23:52 | preglow | you're not missing much |
03:24:00 | sharpe | lol |
03:24:08 | Mikachu | sharpe: what do you have to do? |
03:24:17 | sharpe | meh |
03:24:18 | sharpe | stuff |
03:24:21 | sharpe | for three hours |
03:24:22 | Mikachu | ah, stuff |
03:24:26 | sharpe | yes, stuff |
03:25:23 | Mikachu | somehow i think the stuff won't go better the longer you stay up |
03:25:42 | sharpe | true |
03:25:51 | sharpe | may also have me yelled at |
03:26:24 | sharpe | except, i don't have to do the stuff until 8am, and it's 9 26 pm here right now |
03:26:33 | Mikachu | ah |
03:26:41 | Mikachu | it's 3:26am here |
03:26:58 | sharpe | that's because you're in europe! :) |
03:27:10 | Mikachu | yes! i forgot about timezones |
03:27:18 | sharpe | lol... |
03:27:25 | sharpe | yeah, planets have different times. |
03:27:35 | Mikachu | most of the people here are in europe |
03:27:41 | sharpe | yeah... |
03:27:45 | sharpe | i'm not... |
03:28:08 | sharpe | however, i'm sure if you traced my acestory back far enough, it'd be somewhere from europe |
03:28:11 | sharpe | ancestory |
03:28:21 | Mikachu | unless you're an indian |
03:28:40 | sharpe | which i'm not |
03:28:41 | Mikachu | iirc we all crawled out from under some rock in africa |
03:28:42 | sharpe | :) |
03:29:13 | sharpe | or we all swam onto land from the ocean |
03:29:34 | Mikachu | or planted here by ALIARNS! |
03:29:40 | Mikachu | you never know |
03:30:04 | sharpe | aliarns... yeah. those bastards. |
03:30:32 | preglow | hahah |
03:30:42 | preglow | i thought i was the only drunk person here |
03:31:08 | midkay | bbiab!!!!!!$@!$@!#$!$@@#% FFF 0x00AFFAE!!!!! |
03:31:16 | preglow | ekekekekek |
03:31:25 | midkay | lalallalasskkskssjsjskskdkdkdsksds. |
03:31:25 | Mikachu | i'm only pretending |
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03:31:35 | preglow | i think he was the genuine article |
03:31:51 | Mikachu | i don't know, he typed the hex address accurately |
03:32:00 | Mikachu | or generic number |
03:32:03 | preglow | yes, that does not bode well for him personally |
03:32:22 | qwm | i want an audio feed! |
03:32:26 | Mikachu | wow, ontopic news on slashdot |
03:32:36 | Mikachu | "New simulations show that big asteroid impacts on Earth could have sent about 600 million boulders flying into space. About 100 have reached Jupiter's moon Europa - but they landed at 24 miles/sec. 'This must be rather frustrating if you're a bacterium that survived launch from Earth,' says a researcher. |
03:32:36 | preglow | Mikachu: holy shit"#!¤"# |
03:32:44 | preglow | qwm: i can give you an audio feed |
03:32:50 | sharpe | that's |
03:32:54 | sharpe | kind of... |
03:33:02 | sharpe | uninteresting... |
03:33:09 | preglow | it's slashdot.... |
03:34:04 | sharpe | lol... |
03:34:17 | preglow | do not read slashdot |
03:34:18 | Mikachu | dots.... |
03:34:27 | Mikachu | i only have the rss on my google page for fun |
03:34:36 | preglow | you'll catch the idiot measles |
03:35:00 | preglow | i'll kill whoever corrects my typing |
03:35:23 | * | Mikachu tries to take over someones irc session to correct preglows splelign |
03:35:41 | sharpe | heh... |
03:36:58 | preglow | anywho |
03:37:17 | preglow | the plasma plugin captures have kept me entertained for 30 minutes, but i only go so far |
03:37:21 | preglow | time for bed |
03:37:30 | sharpe | bye bye preglow |
03:37:34 | preglow | gnihttie |
03:37:46 | preglow | yes, now i start to misspell |
03:37:50 | preglow | gnightie |
03:38:03 | Mikachu | preglow: good night :) |
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03:46:30 | XavierGr | lol you guys are funny |
03:46:43 | XavierGr | But as preglow did, I will hit the sack |
03:46:52 | Mikachu | what did it do to you? :( |
03:47:23 | XavierGr | Supposedly, I have to wake up at 9.00 and it is 4.49 here |
03:47:34 | XavierGr | Lol? You mean the sack? |
03:48:07 | XavierGr | well I will hit it as hard as I can. I will sleep as hard as I can, that's for sure. |
03:48:19 | XavierGr | nighty night.... |
03:48:21 | sharpe | if you hit it too hard, it can sue |
03:48:50 | XavierGr | I just hope that it won't fight back. |
03:48:53 | sharpe | for abuse |
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04:14:59 | sharpe | well, g'night if anyone's still conscious. |
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04:44:52 | voltagex | even with the m68k compiler I get "Incompatible model" when i try to run a hello world program on my iriver h340 |
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04:45:10 | voltagex | hi paul |
04:46:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hello |
04:46:39 | voltagex | any ideas on why a program compiled with the m68k gcc still won't run on my iriver? |
04:47:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | How are you loading it? |
04:47:51 | Mikachu | voltagex: did you recompile everything and install? |
04:48:25 | voltagex | Paul_The_Nerd: renaming a.out to helloworld.rock |
04:48:35 | Mikachu | that won't work |
04:48:42 | Mikachu | .rock files are a flat binary format i think |
04:48:49 | voltagex | Mikachu: running the daily build of rockbox from a few days back |
04:48:50 | Mikachu | a.out has all the elf headers |
04:49:07 | Mikachu | the build systems does all sorts of funny things to the binaries before they are .rock |
04:49:15 | Mikachu | so that's why it doesn't work |
04:49:20 | voltagex | Mikachu: so how do I get it to run? |
04:49:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | voltagex: If you want to use it as a .rock, you have to compile it as an actual plugin. Your best bet is taking helloworld.c and modifying its contents. |
04:49:49 | Mikachu | voltagex: is it a rockbox plugin at all? |
04:49:57 | voltagex | Paul_The_Nerd: what do you mean, if you'll excuse my noobness |
04:50:03 | voltagex | Mikachu: no |
04:50:09 | Mikachu | then it won't run under rockbox.. |
04:51:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | voltagex: If you look in /apps/plugins you should see helloworld.c, if I recall. (In the sources.) Modify that to be your program, then rename it to whatever.c, and add it to the SOURCES file in /apps/plugins, and compile a whole build of rockbox, and you should end up with whatever.rock |
04:52:35 | voltagex | ok, where are the instructions on how to build rockbox because the make program on this box defaults to x86 gcc... |
04:53:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | voltagex: create a build directory, then from that directory run the configure script in the tools subdirectory. (For example, if your source is in rockbox, and you make /rockbox/build as your build dir, in it type ../tools/configure) |
04:53:56 | voltagex | ok thanks |
04:54:22 | Mikachu | make doesn't default to anything |
04:54:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then, pick your target of choice (9 or 10 for the m68k irivers h120/40 and h320/40 respectively) and then when you type Make in that directory, it'll build it with the appropriate GCC assuming it's in the path. |
04:54:33 | Mikachu | if you run configure, the makefile it creates will tell make what to run |
04:54:57 | voltagex | ok thanks, rebooting into linux |
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05:33:43 | * | BHSPitMonkey breaks the silence |
05:35:24 | ashridah | you murderer! that silence was so beautiful! :( |
05:36:19 | Mikachu | now we have to wait for a new one |
05:36:21 | Mikachu | shhh |
05:36:21 | * | dpassen1 hopes you intend to repair the silence |
05:37:05 | * | BHSPitMonkey strikes again |
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05:37:23 | BHSPitMonkey | that's a beautiful shot of devcon, by the way |
05:37:25 | BHSPitMonkey | :P |
05:38:21 | * | BHSPitMonkey laughs evilly while using Mikachu's bandwidth |
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05:39:16 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: go ahead and try to saturate it.. |
05:39:29 | BHSPitMonkey | :P |
05:39:36 | * | BHSPitMonkey just watches plasma... |
05:39:50 | BHSPitMonkey | I can't even tell which player that is |
05:39:55 | Mikachu | i can watch it without using ANY addition bandwidth!!!1 |
05:40:03 | Mikachu | it's a black nano so it would be hard to see :) |
05:40:29 | Mikachu | if it was a white nano it would find songs, but black nanos steal songs |
05:40:38 | BHSPitMonkey | haha |
05:40:53 | BHSPitMonkey | ...technological racism. |
05:47:22 | * | [IDC]Dragon flexes |
05:47:46 | * | BHSPitMonkey not impressed |
05:48:47 | [IDC]Dragon | there's a secres here: LinusN is snoring |
05:48:54 | [IDC]Dragon | secret |
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05:54:49 | aaronfg | Trying to compile the sim again, but i'm getting an error when i run MAKE: |
05:54:51 | aaronfg | ]pacbox: No such file or directory |
05:55:58 | aaronfg | anyone have any ideas? |
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06:10:33 | bagawk | funny |
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06:21:44 | bagawk | Whos screen do I see from devcon live? |
06:22:03 | Mikachu | try nicks until it hilights |
06:22:12 | [IDC]Dragon | ine |
06:22:16 | [IDC]Dragon | mine |
06:22:56 | bagawk | [IDC]Dragon: hey there :) have not talked to you in many months |
06:23:11 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
06:24:22 | BHSPitMonkey | cool, I'm on TV! |
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06:28:21 | bagawk | [IDC]Dragon: You know, you (and other rockbox people) have really taught me a lot, now I am programming robots and developing web apps all startin with me learning experiance from rockbox |
06:28:47 | bagawk | *my learning experiance |
06:30:01 | Mikachu | turning scottish? |
06:30:40 | bagawk | Mikachu: maybe not scottish, but hey it Saint Patrick's Day ;) |
06:32:04 | BHSPitMonkey | irish... |
06:32:15 | BHSPitMonkey | ireland != scotland |
06:33:01 | bagawk | BHSPitMonkey: what? You can't see a Irishman saying 'me'? |
06:33:12 | bagawk | :) |
06:33:25 | Mikachu | actually anyone from great britain could probably say 'me' |
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06:37:12 | charley1 | mad props to the devs. i would like to know if it would be possible to use the radio remote as an input for the rockboy. it would be great to set it as the controller. |
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06:38:18 | [IDC]Dragon | bagawk: sorry, i tried a bit more sleep (didn't work) |
06:38:19 | BHSPitMonkey | ahh |
06:38:23 | BHSPitMonkey | a silouette |
06:38:29 | BHSPitMonkey | [IDC]Dragon: :P |
06:38:46 | [IDC]Dragon | this cam is in my way |
06:38:58 | BHSPitMonkey | put it in a general overseeing position |
06:39:11 | [IDC]Dragon | on my notebook keyboard |
06:39:30 | [IDC]Dragon | the cam is very difficult to focus |
06:40:01 | BHSPitMonkey | umm... it's built into the laptop? |
06:40:17 | BHSPitMonkey | kewl |
06:40:19 | BHSPitMonkey | roomage |
06:40:31 | charley1 | can an ipod remote be set up as an input for the rockboy? |
06:40:36 | BHSPitMonkey | is anyone else there? |
06:40:57 | [IDC]Dragon | see LinusN sleeping behind the pool table? |
06:41:09 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah lol |
06:41:15 | charley1 | can anyone hear(see)me? |
06:41:22 | BHSPitMonkey | looks... weird. |
06:41:22 | [IDC]Dragon | everybody's sleeping |
06:41:29 | [IDC]Dragon | besides me |
06:41:32 | BHSPitMonkey | charley1: try it, if it doesn't work, then no. |
06:41:40 | bagawk | Ohh now that is funny |
06:41:45 | BHSPitMonkey | [IDC]Dragon: give us a tour! |
06:41:58 | [IDC]Dragon | the cam is wired |
06:42:01 | BHSPitMonkey | walk veeery slowly. |
06:42:08 | BHSPitMonkey | [IDC]Dragon: to a laptop? |
06:42:52 | [IDC]Dragon | no, to some desktop |
06:42:52 | charley1 | i did try it doesn't work right now i'm curious as to how to add this functionality |
06:43:38 | charley1 | sorry if i'm in the wrong place should i just post to the forum |
06:45:54 | [IDC]Dragon | this is Contactor work area |
06:46:21 | BHSPitMonkey | cool |
06:46:24 | [IDC]Dragon | to the left of our "section" |
06:46:56 | [IDC]Dragon | sleeping is to the right, 180 degrees |
06:48:18 | BHSPitMonkey | ahh, it's jabba the hut's neck |
06:48:34 | [IDC]Dragon | turned it 180 deg now |
06:49:06 | [IDC]Dragon | in front is Christi's dev zone |
06:50:05 | * | [IDC]Dragon can't sleep with daylight |
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06:50:26 | [IDC]Dragon | i need shutters, curtains |
06:50:28 | BHSPitMonkey | so it's just a big nerd slumber party over there, huh |
06:50:36 | BHSPitMonkey | linus is stirring! |
06:50:57 | [IDC]Dragon | oh, yes, he turned |
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06:52:13 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi is downstairs, don't hope for a peep into the ladies dorm |
06:52:23 | BHSPitMonkey | haha |
06:52:26 | BHSPitMonkey | wasn't :P |
06:52:38 | BHSPitMonkey | how long is this converence? |
06:52:43 | BHSPitMonkey | conference, even |
06:52:49 | [IDC]Dragon | til tomorrow |
06:53:07 | BHSPitMonkey | oh, I see |
06:53:39 | BHSPitMonkey | so any cool stuff happened, or is it a secret :P |
06:53:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I came last |
06:54:01 | [IDC]Dragon | so I know least |
06:54:05 | BHSPitMonkey | I see. |
06:54:32 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn worked on optimized iriver ATA read |
06:54:52 | [IDC]Dragon | LiusN on the iAudio |
06:55:11 | [IDC]Dragon | I'm undecided on what to do |
06:55:55 | [IDC]Dragon | take a shower, perhaps |
06:56:03 | BHSPitMonkey | lol |
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07:58:28 | midkay | ewww.. something really ugly is on the cam.. |
07:58:30 | midkay | jk ;) |
07:59:24 | midkay | oh my god, it's hideous.. |
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08:01:03 | bagawk | hey midkay |
08:01:17 | midkay | hey. |
08:09:13 | qwm | NO. |
08:09:15 | qwm | NO NO NO. |
08:09:17 | qwm | don't move the camera. |
08:09:20 | qwm | it was PERFECT. |
08:09:33 | muesli__ | u stalker ;-p |
08:09:43 | qwm | :P |
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08:10:31 | muesli__ | whos that lady? |
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08:10:39 | qwm | christi? |
08:10:44 | midkay | oh my god, what is this, what the hell is this, it's hideous. |
08:12:08 | midkay | if anything you should move the cam back a bit.. so everybody fits.. currently christi and brandon are cut off, i think. |
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08:14:54 | muesli__ | where r they :> |
08:15:04 | muesli__ | suspicious |
08:15:20 | qwm | muesli__: somewhere in the third world country sweden. |
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08:15:25 | omp | hllo |
08:15:29 | omp | hello |
08:15:33 | midkay | lostlogic, let's see your face!!! :) |
08:16:32 | muesli__ | qwm i meant brandon&christi in private ;) |
08:16:46 | midkay | muesli__, haha. |
08:16:47 | * | omp accidently deleted the iPod_Control folder :o |
08:16:52 | omp | now i can't mount it :/ |
08:17:05 | muesli__ | use a brommstick :D |
08:17:07 | omp | neither in linux nor windows |
08:17:12 | omp | :] |
08:17:19 | midkay | omp, what about the restore tool? |
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08:17:36 | omp | well, i need to mount it in order to use that |
08:17:43 | omp | hopefully i still have the ipod backups from |
08:17:44 | midkay | omp, you sure?.. |
08:17:45 | omp | when i installed ipodlinux |
08:18:37 | midkay | omp, http://ipodlinux.org/FAQ#What_if_something_goes_wrong.3F |
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08:19:00 | BHSPitLappy | ooh weird, stuff is actually happening :P |
08:19:07 | omp | hey BHSPitLappy :) |
08:19:08 | midkay | ho ho ho.. |
08:19:12 | BHSPitLappy | hi |
08:19:26 | omp | midkay: well, that's sort of a problem if the ipod won't turn on ;) |
08:19:33 | * | omp can probably figure out a way to get out of this |
08:19:35 | midkay | omp, disk mode? |
08:19:39 | omp | will take some thinking though :o |
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08:19:54 | midkay | reboot.. hold select+play to enter disk mode.. |
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08:20:26 | omp | hmm |
08:20:30 | omp | it was menu/select |
08:20:34 | omp | and it actually worked |
08:20:47 | omp | midkay: thanks |
08:20:50 | omp | *hehe* |
08:20:59 | midkay | omp, what? |
08:21:06 | midkay | menu/select is to reboot.. |
08:21:08 | omp | it was menu & select |
08:21:15 | omp | well it worked |
08:21:20 | omp | :> |
08:21:22 | midkay | hm. alright. |
08:21:23 | midkay | np. :) |
08:21:34 | omp | yeah thanks :) |
08:21:52 | omp | probably just got stuck or something |
08:22:04 | * | omp 's nano has been through a lot of crap |
08:22:14 | omp | i even got it to the point where neither linux nor windows couldn't mount it |
08:22:17 | omp | bad superblocks |
08:22:39 | omp | s/couldn't/could've/ |
08:23:53 | midkay | hmm.. |
08:24:58 | omp | anyways |
08:25:04 | omp | rockbox is a lot better than ipodlinux IMO |
08:25:17 | midkay | omp, instant agreement! :) |
08:25:27 | muesli__ | btw wth are they doing @8:30am |
08:25:59 | omp | only one downside to rockbox |
08:26:01 | muesli__ | i woke up cos i couldnt sleep anymore..but i woulndt do that if i mustnt |
08:26:04 | omp | you have to install from windows :o |
08:26:18 | * | omp used his mom's laptop to install it, heh |
08:26:21 | BHSPitLappy | omp: they're different projects. apples and oranges. |
08:26:30 | BHSPitLappy | different goals. |
08:26:33 | midkay | omp, no you don't, there are linux instructions.. |
08:26:41 | omp | grr |
08:26:44 | BHSPitLappy | true dat |
08:26:44 | omp | if only i seen them sooner |
08:27:05 | BHSPitLappy | it's just like installing iPL... except without the partitioning, and a different bootloader... |
08:27:12 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, they're semi-different, but what is the "goal" of iPL then? |
08:27:30 | BHSPitLappy | not to be a superior music playing system. |
08:27:37 | omp | i like iPL but it's just too unstable for me to use right now |
08:27:48 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, so it doesn't have a goal, it just doesn't want to be good at playing music? |
08:28:03 | BHSPitLappy | midkay: playback is the point of rockbox... playback is a -feature- of linux |
08:28:14 | BHSPitLappy | linux is an OS... look into it. |
08:28:16 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, so what is the −−point−− of ipodlinux? |
08:28:23 | midkay | i asked you that and you simply said what the goal wasn't. |
08:28:26 | midkay | what _IS_ the goal? |
08:28:35 | BHSPitLappy | [BHSPitLappy] linux is an OS... look into it. |
08:28:42 | omp | midkay: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#iPod |
08:28:49 | omp | midkay: looks like it's only windows and mac os x |
08:28:53 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, to "run linux"? last i checked it's been running for years. so what are they doing now? |
08:29:09 | midkay | omp, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot |
08:29:18 | BHSPitLappy | making it better, and keeping up with the new technology? |
08:29:32 | BHSPitLappy | and constantly trying to RE the portal player stuff? |
08:29:35 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, in what way? it runs, goal accomplished. what needs to be better about it? |
08:29:38 | omp | midkay: oh hmm |
08:29:42 | omp | midkay: they should add that link there |
08:29:51 | midkay | omp, from IpodPort there's a link.. |
08:29:52 | BHSPitLappy | midkay: it's nowhere close to being what a lot of people want it to be. |
08:30:04 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, here we are again - _what_ do people _want_ it to _be_? |
08:30:14 | * | BHSPitLappy explodes |
08:30:25 | midkay | because he can't answer.. : |
08:30:26 | midkay | :)* |
08:30:29 | BHSPitLappy | that's an absurd question, and you know it. |
08:30:37 | * | omp just wanted support for about half of his music collection, and that's what i get with rockbox |
08:30:40 | omp | (ogg vorbis) |
08:30:46 | BHSPitLappy | how can I answer a question of what each person wants to do with their hardware? |
08:30:58 | omp | easy answer |
08:31:01 | omp | install gentoo on it :D |
08:31:02 | qwm | sigh. |
08:31:04 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, you can't answer because the goals are the same and you don't want to admit that iPL is simply not getting there as quickly ;) |
08:31:12 | midkay | omp, :) |
08:31:27 | BHSPitLappy | midkay: why are you telling me this?? |
08:31:38 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, because you can't accept it. |
08:31:38 | omp | can't we all just get along? |
08:31:42 | omp | :) |
08:31:47 | BHSPitLappy | the "different projects, different goals" line came from the devs of both projects, so suck it |
08:32:02 | BHSPitLappy | don't shoot the fscking messenger |
08:32:05 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, i know you'd really love me to suck it, but i'd prefer not, sorry.. |
08:33:10 | omp | so, any of you try Xgl yet? |
08:33:37 | BHSPitLappy | gah... this is what it must be like to have a conversation with an infant who can speak english well |
08:33:47 | midkay | omp, xgl? |
08:34:06 | BHSPitLappy | omp: meh, time doesn't really permit |
08:34:17 | BHSPitLappy | too lazy to make it work |
08:34:47 | omp | midkay: let me show you a screenshot i took about 2 weeks ago |
08:34:52 | omp | midkay: http://ompty.org/images/screenshots/2006-03-06-145148_2048x768_scrot.png |
08:35:05 | midkay | ah, right. |
08:35:16 | omp | pretty cool |
08:35:19 | midkay | looks pretty nice.. |
08:35:20 | omp | and easy to set up in gentoo |
08:35:26 | omp | provided you have a nvidia card ;) |
08:38:10 | * | omp is running out of room on his nano :( |
08:38:18 | omp | (now that i can put my oggs on it) |
08:38:28 | muesli__ | get a macro :D |
08:38:48 | omp | :P |
08:39:34 | omp | hopefully my current music collection would fit on it |
08:40:11 | omp | i'm beginning to doubt it though |
08:42:36 | muesli__ | if ur in danger or in doubt run in circles scream and shout :o |
08:43:12 | omp | has a nice ring to it |
08:43:58 | omp | my headphones are like 5000 times the size of my nano |
08:44:01 | omp | (sennheiser) :D |
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08:46:14 | muesli__ | amiconn gimme a wave pls :D |
08:46:40 | midkay | if only he were there.. :) |
08:46:56 | muesli__ | got lost ;) |
08:47:03 | muesli__ | mayb finding logic... |
08:47:15 | midkay | ha. lostlogic. get it? |
08:47:19 | midkay | logic is lost. |
08:47:24 | midkay | amiconn is finding lost logic. |
08:47:26 | midkay | hyaa. |
08:47:27 | midkay | :p |
08:48:33 | omp | the room is empty :o |
08:48:53 | muesli__ | they r having a secret party over there |
08:49:07 | amiconn | morning :) |
08:49:09 | omp | haha |
08:49:12 | omp | they are back :) |
08:49:15 | omp | hello amiconn |
08:49:18 | midkay | amiconn, WAVE!! :) |
08:49:26 | omp | hahahahaha |
08:49:26 | omp | nice |
08:49:27 | midkay | hahahaha |
08:49:28 | muesli__ | laola! |
08:49:37 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
08:49:40 | omp | :) |
08:49:42 | BHSPitLappy | nice wave |
08:49:46 | muesli__ | :-) |
08:50:09 | BHSPitLappy | what the |
08:50:10 | midkay | amiconn, let's see "grayscale" in sign language.. |
08:50:15 | omp | what's that white thing :) |
08:50:28 | bagawk | cat5? |
08:50:33 | BHSPitLappy | silly string? |
08:50:36 | BHSPitLappy | :P |
08:50:44 | amiconn | cat5 |
08:50:46 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, a network cable |
08:50:50 | amiconn | more stable than wlan |
08:50:52 | BHSPitLappy | cat5 is the nerd's silly string :P |
08:51:03 | amiconn | ...and faster :) |
08:51:03 | [IDC]Dragon | too short to route it away |
08:51:11 | BHSPitLappy | soon you |
08:51:18 | BHSPitLappy | will be able to get it in can form... |
08:52:17 | BHSPitLappy | that's an impressive pile of mp3 bricks |
08:52:55 | muesli__ | they must have played brickmania ;) |
08:53:11 | amiconn | lol |
08:53:55 | midkay | amiconn, why don't you get up and dance for us? :( |
08:54:15 | amiconn | Erm, 'cause I prefer coding? ;) |
08:54:19 | midkay | we're all staring at you intently. |
08:54:21 | bagawk | amiconn: quick place a whoopi cushion under [IDC]Dragon's seat! |
08:54:47 | midkay | haha. he's looking in his cup. |
08:55:03 | midkay | e.g. "did someone pee in this? eww." |
08:55:09 | midkay | poor amiconn. :( |
08:55:26 | muesli__ | nope..he is looking into the future u n00bs ;) |
08:55:49 | midkay | haha. |
08:56:08 | midkay | into the future, watching linus pee in his coffee in the past. |
08:56:17 | muesli__ | lol |
08:56:34 | muesli__ | guess thats not a swinger club |
08:58:59 | qwm | amiconn: whose is the bag of chips? |
09:00 |
09:00:04 | qwm | amiconn: could you show midkay the bag of chips. |
09:00:40 | midkay | amiconn, yes, please could you hold them up to the camera. the ones on linus' desk. |
09:01:07 | amiconn | It's on the far left of his table |
09:01:12 | midkay | yes. |
09:01:15 | midkay | we need to see them closer. |
09:02:55 | omp | heh |
09:03:11 | midkay | amiconn, we're debating about the brand and flavor. can't you just SHOW US THE CHIPS. :( |
09:03:21 | omp | haha |
09:03:31 | midkay | SHOW US THE CHIPS!! |
09:03:53 | omp | :o |
09:04:14 | midkay | amiconn, hahaha, thank you. :) |
09:04:35 | qwm | yeah. thanks indeed. i was wrong about the flavor. |
09:04:37 | qwm | :P |
09:04:47 | midkay | i was right btw!! |
09:04:48 | midkay | in a way. |
09:04:56 | midkay | not originally; i thought they were doritos at first. |
09:05:03 | qwm | you've never even tasted estrella chips you little rat. |
09:05:41 | muesli__ | chips are chicks stuff :p |
09:07:51 | BHSPitLappy | they're doritos |
09:07:59 | BHSPitLappy | hmm |
09:08:02 | BHSPitLappy | well |
09:08:40 | BHSPitLappy | :P |
09:08:49 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, incorrectomundo! |
09:08:57 | BHSPitLappy | midkay: they -were- doritos |
09:09:01 | BHSPitLappy | ;) |
09:09:24 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, ah, they morphed into pisaschitt estrella ones. |
09:09:33 | BHSPitLappy | yeah |
09:09:42 | BHSPitLappy | like the earth -was- flat |
09:10:31 | amiconn | when was that? |
09:11:16 | midkay | twenty kajillion years ago. |
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09:41:06 | linuxstb | Morning all. Nothing interesting going on in Big Brother I see... |
09:45:36 | midkay | morning linuxstb |
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09:58:41 | [IDC]Dragon | we returned from breakfast |
09:59:01 | midkay | wb :) |
09:59:14 | lostlogic | *rubs belly* |
09:59:37 | midkay | lostlogic, dance for us. |
09:59:39 | midkay | somebody DANCE. |
10:00 |
10:00:08 | [IDC]Dragon | we're bitching about the users not *hearing* us |
10:00:19 | midkay | haha. we want an audio feed! |
10:00:21 | midkay | that'd be cool actually. |
10:01:22 | Cassandra | Now we're bitching about aircon. |
10:02:21 | [IDC]Dragon | next we're bitching about Christi ;-) |
10:02:24 | midkay | go back to bitching about an audio feed pls. |
10:02:25 | midkay | :) |
10:03:46 | safetydan | So when does voting beging to vote someone out of the devcon? |
10:04:17 | ashridah | "if you'd like to vote for Linus, press 1 now!" |
10:04:32 | qwm | gosh. how funny! |
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10:04:56 | midkay | btw. who can tell me what the hell is the deal with those red deformed chairs? |
10:05:19 | Bger | oh, morning Linus & amiconn:) |
10:05:33 | safetydan | ah qwm. your interjections never cease to amuse |
10:06:26 | linuxstb | [IDC]Dragon: How did the hard disk surgery go last night? |
10:07:10 | qwm | no, i like everyone else. |
10:07:10 | [IDC]Dragon | the disk is toast |
10:07:40 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi thought it's alive, but it wasn't |
10:07:55 | linuxstb | Ah, so she had a disk without a player? |
10:08:07 | [IDC]Dragon | a broken player with a disk |
10:08:17 | [IDC]Dragon | which we transplanted |
10:08:25 | linuxstb | But as it turns out, a broken player with a broken disk... :( |
10:08:41 | [IDC]Dragon | now, I donated her a complete player with disk |
10:09:03 | linuxstb | Clever trick from Christi :) |
10:09:10 | Cassandra | I think that players must kill disks or something. Brandon's disk has also died. |
10:09:59 | BHSPitLappy | heh |
10:10:12 | [IDC]Dragon | somebody, give me his notebook drive |
10:12:18 | BHSPitLappy | don't copy that floppy! |
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10:14:00 | * | BHSPitLappy thinks they're having a halo lan party, unbeknownst to us |
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10:15:15 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor is cranking up the woofer |
10:15:47 | [IDC]Dragon | playing us some floorfiller techno |
10:16:20 | BHSPitLappy | nice |
10:16:49 | BHSPitLappy | you're on the rounded table, right |
10:17:19 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, um, look down. there's actually a picture with labels showing the location of people. |
10:17:34 | BHSPitLappy | "Of course everybody moves around, but this is the current seat allocation: " |
10:17:42 | midkay | that is indeed the current seat allocations. |
10:17:44 | midkay | -s. |
10:18:22 | midkay | moves around as in maybe gets up and walks around. but that's where their laptops/PCs are, so that's their seat.. why would they switch? |
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10:18:54 | BHSPitLappy | looks like they're demonstrating those legs of theirs now. |
10:19:03 | midkay | BHSPitLappy, good job |
10:19:25 | hubbel | oki.. i'm going to the devcon soon.. if i actually find the place, how do i get in? any phone number to call? |
10:19:27 | linuxstb | Bagder: Is there anything up with the build system? I just committed some pacbox patches, but it isn't building... |
10:19:29 | safetydan | Really need to have a caption contest. |
10:19:56 | linuxstb | Bagder: False alarm, it just started... |
10:20:04 | BHSPitLappy | safetydan: ha |
10:20:14 | linuxstb | Bagder: Have you changed the frequency of the builds? |
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10:24:22 | BHSPitLappy | are the cam frames stored somewhere, or are they candles in the wind |
10:25:08 | Zagor | like tears in rain |
10:25:23 | BHSPitLappy | dag |
10:25:33 | Zagor | but of course we could change that |
10:25:39 | BHSPitLappy | nah, too late really |
10:25:51 | BHSPitLappy | I was thinking of a cool time lapse video after it's over |
10:25:52 | Zagor | I'll make a little job to save every 10 minutes |
10:26:06 | Zagor | ah, needs a bit more frequency then |
10:26:12 | BHSPitLappy | like every one :P |
10:26:18 | Zagor | do you know any software to make such timelapse videos? |
10:26:34 | BHSPitLappy | anything that will assemble frames |
10:26:41 | Zagor | I recorded every 10 minutes for a *year* out the window of my last apartment |
10:26:44 | [IDC]Dragon | now Zagor plays us some mellow trance |
10:26:49 | BHSPitLappy | can't be difficult |
10:27:11 | BHSPitLappy | Zagor: that's some crazy disk storage devotion |
10:28:02 | BHSPitLappy | an actual live a/v stream would rule :P |
10:28:15 | Zagor | (I'm playing the "Groove Salad" radio channel, i felt "Tags Trance" was a bit too busy for background music) |
10:28:30 | midkay | Zagor, we want audio :) |
10:28:44 | [IDC]Dragon | just give them the URL |
10:28:51 | Zagor | http://somafm.com/groovesalad.pls |
10:29:00 | midkay | not for that.. :) |
10:29:03 | Zagor | hehe |
10:29:14 | [IDC]Dragon | so, you've got our audio |
10:29:17 | BHSPitLappy | beh |
10:29:19 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
10:29:26 | Zagor | we don't talk anyway. we're on irc :-) |
10:29:41 | Bger | http://www.washyourhands.tyo.ca/ haha |
10:29:48 | lostlogic | we laugh occasionally... and Linus purrs... :-\ |
10:29:53 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
10:29:55 | midkay | hahaha. |
10:30:04 | [IDC]Dragon | no, amiconn did |
10:30:13 | lostlogic | whoops |
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10:31:19 | Membrillo | Howdy |
10:31:24 | BHSPitLappy | Bger: good, I'm on a laptop |
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10:33:30 | * | [IDC]Dragon does a cvsupdate |
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10:33:58 | [IDC]Dragon | 1st step to developing something |
10:34:22 | hubbel | Zagor: I'm coming to the Devcon.. Do I need any phone number to get in to the building? |
10:37:05 | [IDC]Dragon | quick! everydody hide! |
10:37:20 | [IDC]Dragon | everyBody |
10:38:00 | Zagor | hubbel: did you get my msg? |
10:38:02 | hubbel | Zagor: thanks |
10:39:59 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder arrived |
10:40:09 | lostlogic | Cassandra: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/consumer_electronics/stats/ipod_5thgen.html has the specs including mention of the RAM size |
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10:41:49 | BHSPitLappy | B4gder takes the throne |
10:41:55 | B4gder | goooood morning |
10:42:12 | BHSPitLappy | too good for a freaky red chair? :P |
10:42:24 | Zagor | the red chairs are awesome |
10:42:26 | B4gder | they scare me |
10:42:27 | * | [IDC]Dragon takes a different chair |
10:42:32 | markun | morning guys |
10:42:55 | B4gder | now I'll host my edited agenda somewhere... |
10:43:10 | Zagor | B4gder: wiki perhaps? |
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10:43:35 | [IDC]Dragon | I can hold it up to the cam |
10:43:55 | Zagor | good. that's your task for the day :-) |
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10:44:05 | BHSPitLappy | nice uh, letterhead |
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10:47:02 | lostlogic | linuxstb: do IPL or us have any idea how to detect touch pressure on the touch wheel? |
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10:54:03 | linuxstb | lostlogic: I wasn't aware that it was possible. |
10:57:57 | [IDC]Dragon | now we're about to get serious |
10:58:07 | [IDC]Dragon | with slides on the projector |
10:58:17 | [IDC]Dragon | agenda and stuff |
10:58:22 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/devcon2006.html |
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11:10:32 | [IDC]Dragon | mysterious Mr. hubbel arrived |
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11:14:57 | LinusN | actually, it was kjell |
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11:17:40 | [IDC]Dragon | hubbel is Kjell? |
11:18:05 | Zagor | the plot thickens... |
11:18:21 | [IDC]Dragon | from the early Archos days I did'nt whitness |
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11:18:49 | Zagor | kjell is actually "kjer", who wrote the latin-1 code for the archos players. way back. |
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11:19:12 | [IDC]Dragon | \o/ |
11:19:16 | Zagor | he's not very active in rockbox these days |
11:19:29 | [IDC]Dragon | like me... |
11:19:31 | Moos | Hello here |
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11:21:38 | lostlogic | linuxstb: dunno either −− someone seems to apply that thi sis the case in the ipod firmware |
11:22:26 | lostlogic | linuxstb: I think I'm going to pass high delta, lowword = location as the event data for wheel events so that plugins can do custom button processing if thye want to, thoughts on that? |
11:22:39 | lostlogic | highword=delta that is |
11:26:08 | qwm | :) |
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11:30:39 | [IDC]Dragon | conference starts downstairs |
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11:38:45 | linuxstb | lostlogic: I was just looking at Mikachu's wheel_status() patch - have you seen that? |
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11:53:19 | safetydan | woah... 40% read speed increase? |
11:56:03 | Lost-ash | nice |
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11:59:48 | Paprica | safetydan, what happened with the wps parser? |
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12:01:12 | safetydan | Paprica, didn't get any feedback and haven't had time to work on it some more |
12:05:16 | Paprica | is it working? |
12:08:51 | Mikachu | Zagor: it's pretty easy to convert images into a movie with mencoder |
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12:25:09 | safetydan | Paprica, no, it's only partially complete |
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12:45:00 | [IDC]Dragon | coffee break |
12:45:26 | t0mas | ah |
12:45:30 | t0mas | you all returned |
12:45:32 | [IDC]Dragon | unfortunately we don't have the cam in the meeting room |
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12:47:04 | [IDC]Dragon | so far we've covered 3 of the bottom items: |
12:47:21 | [IDC]Dragon | portability, button hell, menuconfig |
12:47:37 | t0mas | ah, how was menuconfig? |
12:48:16 | t0mas | I sort of got B4gder to talk about it, after a discussion with amiconn about it's usefulness... |
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12:49:59 | Mikachu | wow, my log went from 800kB yesterday to 61M today |
12:51:40 | muesli__ | suspicious! ;) |
12:52:16 | [IDC]Dragon | menuconfig is pretty much dropped |
12:52:21 | t0mas | :( |
12:52:29 | [IDC]Dragon | will stay like config |
12:52:47 | [IDC]Dragon | HAVE_xxx |
12:53:02 | t0mas | who's the guy next to you? |
12:53:02 | * | [IDC]Dragon grabs a drink |
12:53:18 | muesli__ | xxx @devcon? ;) |
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12:55:17 | t0mas | muesli__: I hope that's not why they're now out of camera range ;) |
12:55:23 | muesli__ | ;-) |
12:55:30 | muesli__ | busy christi ;-)) |
12:55:54 | * | t0mas doesn't really want to think about it... |
12:56:02 | t0mas | *change of subject* |
12:56:10 | muesli__ | so does muesli__ |
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13:07:51 | Genre9mp3 | Hi to all! Just a quick question...I've made a colour wps for H300 and now am working on different colour themes based on my wps. I'd like to create a Rockbox theme. So, is it ok to use Rockbox colours and logo? Thanks... |
13:09:08 | t0mas | I think as long as you don't name it "Rockbox theme" it is ok |
13:09:17 | t0mas | just name it something like: RbLogo |
13:09:40 | t0mas | but hey... I'm not the rockbox logo owner, so you might want to ask Bagder, Zagor or LinusN first |
13:10:18 | Genre9mp3 | What about iCatcher-Rockbox.wps (iCatcher is my wps name) Would be a problem? |
13:10:38 | t0mas | I think it's ok |
13:10:52 | t0mas | you can ofcourse just use the name... and if someone has a problem with it just change it |
13:11:05 | Genre9mp3 | ok....thank you very much. |
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13:18:48 | nudel | http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1602 |
13:19:33 | nudel | one day the iPod will be able to control your entire life and beam interactive games into your brain directly... and it STILL won't play music without adding gaps. |
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13:21:58 | [IDC]Dragon | now we're heading for lunch |
13:22:15 | [IDC]Dragon | sorry that the actual work isn't really visible |
13:22:40 | nudel | so long as i get 75 hours' battery life on Monday morning that's okay :-) :-) |
13:23:02 | [IDC]Dragon | the new guy is hubble (the real one, not Kjell) |
13:23:30 | [IDC]Dragon | I thought ther're the same, but it turns out they aren't |
13:24:01 | crashd | lunch!@ |
13:24:04 | crashd | get back to work! |
13:24:11 | Zagor | :-) |
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13:26:04 | [IDC]Dragon | it's a business lunch |
13:26:31 | Moos | Have a good lunch at all ! |
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13:27:38 | Lynx_ | omg, naked people at the devcon ;) |
13:27:50 | crashd | NAKED! |
13:28:10 | Lynx_ | well, shirtless |
13:28:28 | Moos | Really TV show XD |
13:28:42 | Moos | *Real |
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13:31:16 | * | Moos goies to lunch too |
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13:49:58 | XavierGr | So menu-configuration is out of the discussion? That is very dissapointing. I hoped that we will have a chance to make our own prefered menus, sometime in the future. :( |
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13:55:34 | safetydan | XavierGr, I think they were talking about a menu to configure what parts of Rockbox were built |
13:55:51 | safetydan | So you could have a custom build that didnt have... plugin support or something. |
13:56:29 | XavierGr | ah completely misunderstood then |
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14:09:59 | Lear | Anyone having playback problems with a bleeding edge build on iRiver? |
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14:11:57 | Lear | I keep getting I80 at track ends, it seems. Making a full rebuild, to see if that makes a difference... |
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14:13:50 | XavierGr | hey the live camera at devcon stopped! |
14:14:02 | XavierGr | ops no it is up again |
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14:18:53 | Mikachu | woot, Paprica, "You have finished the game", 21474 points on brickmania :) |
14:19:13 | Paprica | hihi =] nice |
14:19:53 | Mikachu | one thing that strikes me is that you really get a lot of life powerups |
14:20:05 | muesli__ | Paprica btw...ive read somewhere in the changelog about a countdown bonus |
14:20:08 | Mikachu | i was up to 7, down to 0, and up again maybe 3 times during the game |
14:20:26 | muesli__ | i had 26 once upon a time ;) |
14:20:30 | Paprica | the powerup choose is randomly |
14:20:55 | XavierGr | Mikachu try to beat it on an H100 |
14:21:06 | safetydan | Lear, it works fine for me here on my H120 |
14:21:23 | Mikachu | XavierGr: hehe |
14:21:30 | Mikachu | Paprica: yeah but maybe it should be weighted |
14:21:42 | Lear | Well, just made a full rebuild, lets see if that's any better... |
14:22:19 | muesli__ | Paprica how do you think about a real time bonus? as fast as u finish up a level the more points u get. atm you can get points by picking up power ups (glue suxx ;-) ) only |
14:22:26 | Paprica | Mikachu, im working on somthing else now, could you do that? |
14:23:16 | Paprica | muesli__, could be nice |
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14:26:40 | muesli__ | and rather using play+rec for steering ;) |
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14:32:22 | Lynx_ | Mikachu: did you exceed your bandwidth limit? ;) |
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14:46:38 | Mikachu | Lynx_: hm? |
14:46:50 | Mikachu | not my fault |
14:46:53 | Lynx_ | Mikachu: the webcam pic is gone |
14:46:55 | Lynx_ | ok |
14:47:11 | Mikachu | they're uploading 0-byte files now |
14:47:12 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder is looking at it |
14:47:24 | Lynx_ | ok :) |
14:47:33 | [IDC]Dragon | the script is dead |
14:50:00 | Lynx_ | ah |
14:50:32 | [IDC]Dragon | Zagor is changing clothes in front of the cam |
14:50:40 | [IDC]Dragon | good thing it's offline |
14:51:13 | [IDC]Dragon | now he's properly dressed with a Rockbox tshirt |
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14:52:07 | [IDC]Dragon | cam is back |
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14:54:35 | Zagor | the crappy webcam software leaks memory like silly |
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14:56:49 | Lynx_ | Zagor: win or linux? |
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14:57:36 | Mongey | lol Nice setup |
14:57:39 | B4gder | the webcam sits on a windows machine, running a creative program for doing the shots |
14:57:43 | Lear | Gah, crash again... |
14:58:13 | Mongey | whos sitting at the back? |
14:58:19 | Lynx_ | B4gder: http://dorgem.sourceforge.net/ works for me, and its free |
14:58:40 | [IDC]Dragon | Mongey: hubbel, a new participant |
14:58:47 | Mongey | kk |
14:59:12 | Mongey | Anyone want to give me a wave? |
14:59:39 | muesli__ | why do almost6 all of you wearing blue shirts? |
14:59:46 | muesli__ | wear |
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15:00:03 | lostlogic | muesli__: ... they're rockbox polos... ... |
15:00:12 | Mongey | LMAO |
15:00:13 | muesli__ | :-) |
15:00:20 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/devcon2006/ |
15:00:24 | Mongey | rotfl |
15:00:25 | B4gder | shirt show |
15:00:28 | Mongey | haha |
15:01:07 | muesli__ | we wanna c a rockbox wet shirt competetion ;-) |
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15:01:18 | B4gder | using beer too, right? ;-) |
15:01:20 | [IDC]Dragon | no, you don't |
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15:01:56 | Lynx_ | we already had zagor with his shirt off before lunch, that's enough show for today ;) |
15:02:21 | Mongey | wheres Linus? |
15:02:43 | Lear | So, how come I get a crash at the hdr->entry_point() call in codecs.c (IBC)? |
15:02:44 | Mongey | oh i see |
15:03:00 | Lear | Running bleeding edge on an H140... |
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15:06:28 | Febs | So for those of you at the conference, when does the roundtable discussion on Rockbox's real name policy begin? ;) |
15:06:32 | * | Febs Runs away. |
15:07:53 | Cassandra | I think it's scheduled for Monday. |
15:08:32 | Febs | :) |
15:08:38 | Mikachu | this last person's arrival isn't listed on the devcon page |
15:08:49 | muesli__ | Cassandra where r u hiding? |
15:09:03 | muesli__ | or do you pretend to be linus? |
15:09:34 | [IDC]Dragon | Cassandra is hiding behind a big monitor |
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15:12:21 | crashd | morning kids |
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15:18:22 | Mongey | http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4241/rockbox2mf.png |
15:18:46 | B4gder | hehe |
15:19:55 | [IDC]Dragon | hey, look, I made then do _this_ |
15:20:01 | [IDC]Dragon | them |
15:20:45 | Mongey | hehehe |
15:20:53 | Mongey | that has made my day |
15:21:00 | preglow | bagder's being quite the enthusiast |
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15:21:46 | egotrippen | hey |
15:21:58 | egotrippen | i'm getting an error compiling the latest bleeding edge build on H300 |
15:22:51 | egotrippen | i think it has to do with the gwps.h file, where i have a little patch applied changing a keybinding |
15:23:01 | egotrippen | how would i know if that's the problem or not? |
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15:23:43 | lostlogic | preglow: what do you think about giving applications a way to request that the button driver send all scroll events using a BUTTON_SCROLL_TOUCH (all that it can without queuing that is)? |
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15:25:10 | preglow | what'd be the meaning of that, exactly? |
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15:26:09 | lostlogic | preglow: that the wheel was touched, this would be used in conjunction with sending location and delta information as the event data (hiword, loword) by an application wishing to do specialized wheel control |
15:27:04 | preglow | sounds good, but how do we prevent the good old event flood? steadily update an event until it's been removed from the queue or something? |
15:27:07 | Mikachu | isn't enough that the app just get the current position in the event loop? |
15:27:16 | Acksaw | hmm |
15:28:07 | lostlogic | preglow: the button driver won't do any processing on the event if the queue is full, and then will report the full delta which occurred between the last time it could post an event nad this time |
15:28:56 | lostlogic | Mikachu: why have both the app and the button driver do delta calculations and wrap-around cases? |
15:29:21 | preglow | lostlogic: yeah, that sounds good |
15:29:26 | Mikachu | the button driver could stop doing it when not sending events |
15:29:43 | lostlogic | Mikachu: not following |
15:32:35 | Mikachu | oh, you mean code duplication |
15:32:43 | Mikachu | not runtime |
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15:33:31 | lostlogic | Mikachu: both |
15:34:02 | Lear | amiconn: asm ata read doesn't seem stable on my H140. |
15:34:22 | Lear | No crash yet after disabling it at least, but I haven't tried it that much... |
15:34:32 | amiconn | What happened? |
15:35:21 | Lear | Crashes, often when swapping codecs (the actual jump to the codec, I think). |
15:35:34 | preglow | strange... |
15:35:44 | Lear | Also, sometimes playback stops at the beginning of a track. |
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15:35:50 | amiconn | That's indeed strange |
15:36:08 | Lear | Checked the address of one crash, pointed to the instruction right after the jump, btw. |
15:36:11 | amiconn | I did a pretty large write-amd-read-back comparision run |
15:36:18 | amiconn | *and |
15:36:57 | amiconn | 300MB, no single bit error. Pseudo-random data |
15:37:02 | amiconn | That was on H300, btw |
15:37:18 | amiconn | Perhaps I shoul dtry that on H1x0 |
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15:38:46 | B4gder | ok, now each build log shows on which server the built was made on |
15:38:51 | [IDC]Dragon | Christi passed out... |
15:39:01 | elinenbe | wish I was there... good luck guys! |
15:39:06 | B4gder | should be useful in case of weirdnesses |
15:39:19 | elinenbe | although I would be more of a cheer-leader! |
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15:39:39 | elinenbe | I like the shirts. |
15:40:05 | Lear | amiconn: could be that I've only had problems on codec swaps, but I forced a couple now, and they worked fine (with C ata read). |
15:40:53 | elinenbe | what's next on the schdule? |
15:42:09 | B4gder | going back to the talks soon |
15:42:55 | B4gder | I think "release" has been mentioned for topic |
15:43:02 | B4gder | scary enough |
15:43:07 | t0mas | wow |
15:43:13 | t0mas | everybody is back on cam |
15:43:25 | preglow | hahah |
15:43:34 | B4gder | when we're all on cam you know we don't do anyhing useful... |
15:43:37 | * | t0mas watched this morning... nobody |
15:43:38 | B4gder | :-) |
15:43:56 | preglow | who's the guy in the back? |
15:44:00 | * | t0mas still wonders who lostlogic and Cassandra are |
15:44:44 | Zagor | preglow: hubbel |
15:44:52 | preglow | Zagor: realname? |
15:45:10 | Zagor | umm, Andreas... something. introduce yourself hubbel :-) |
15:45:31 | t0mas | hm? he wasn't on "the list"? |
15:45:46 | Zagor | no he's a surprise guest :-) |
15:45:51 | webguest28 | What does pcmbufdesc mean in the audio thread debug menu? |
15:46:00 | Mikachu | can we vote people out of the devcon? |
15:46:04 | Zagor | haha |
15:46:05 | preglow | hshahah |
15:46:06 | t0mas | lol |
15:46:10 | t0mas | like bigbrother |
15:46:16 | preglow | there are too few criminals in there for this to be fun |
15:46:24 | lostlogic | webguest28: it's a count of the number of buffer descriptors that are currently used |
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15:46:56 | lostlogic | t0mas: I'm on cam now... |
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15:47:03 | t0mas | yes |
15:47:17 | t0mas | is christi sleeping? |
15:47:26 | lostlogic | resting her eyes she says |
15:47:33 | t0mas | ghehe |
15:48:10 | webguest28 | Hrm, improved ata read should translate to increased battery time \o/ |
15:48:29 | webguest28 | right? |
15:48:37 | * | amiconn is messing with the ata timing atm |
15:48:49 | amiconn | It seems it's good for another +35% |
15:48:56 | Lear | if it works, yes... :) |
15:49:03 | amiconn | (if it's running stable that is) |
15:49:08 | webguest28 | What, +75% from the original? |
15:49:19 | Lynx_ | would that impact usb transfer speed? |
15:49:24 | webguest28 | or rather, -75% |
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15:50:38 | amiconn | Lynx_: Not at all |
15:50:49 | amiconn | USB transfer is handled by the bridge chip, not the cpu |
15:51:03 | Lynx_ | ok, i thought that might be the case |
15:51:12 | Bger | Lynx_ what, ~9MB/s are not enough for u ? ;) |
15:51:30 | webguest28 | Hrm, I'm not getting any errors from the latest build |
15:51:34 | Lynx_ | Bg3r: hehe, i get either 12 m/sec or 3.5, still don't know why |
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15:52:20 | webguest28 | Tried a codec swap and a buffer-fillup |
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15:54:19 | Bger | webguest28 H3x0 or H1x0 ? |
15:54:19 | t0mas | Bagder? what has been discussed already? |
15:54:28 | webguest28 | h120 |
15:54:53 | * | webguest28 tries some more codec swaps |
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15:57:16 | egotrippen | is there a way to stop some files from updating by CVS? |
15:57:20 | stripwax | ello |
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15:57:30 | egotrippen | like, if i don't want some plugins or WPSs, to keep them from downloading? |
15:57:36 | stripwax | egotrippen - just cvs update the files you want to update. or, make a local ocpy of the file and copy it back afterwarsd |
15:57:47 | webguest28 | wv->mpc->ogg->wv->flac without a hitch |
15:57:51 | Zagor | t0mas: we've discussed: a) improved filetree to hold different targets/architectures |
15:57:51 | Mikachu | egotrippen: you can try removing them from CVS/Entries in the respective directory |
15:58:00 | egotrippen | cool |
15:58:00 | Zagor | b) improved button handling |
15:58:05 | Mikachu | egotrippen: but maybe that only works for subdirs |
15:58:08 | webguest28 | egotrippen: in the case of plugins, you can just remove them from the SOURCES file |
15:58:23 | Zagor | c) how to handle the neverending stream of new wps:es and "fun" plugins |
15:58:24 | preglow | btw |
15:58:48 | Zagor | (we'll ship a "lite" and a "full" version) |
15:58:57 | preglow | anyone against me making a HAVE_PWMABLE_BACKLIGHT define or something? the backlight fading code is currently hardwired to h100... |
15:59:03 | stripwax | wow, just saw asm patch for ata.c . Has the improvement to battery life been measured yet? |
15:59:03 | Bger | Zagor and about a) & b) |
15:59:27 | egotrippen | where's the sources file? |
15:59:29 | Lear | webguest28: only do mp3 <-> vorbis myself... |
15:59:43 | webguest28 | stripwax: considering it was less than 6 hours ago, I'd guess no |
15:59:53 | [IDC]Dragon | preglow: sounds good |
15:59:55 | egotrippen | ah, found it |
15:59:58 | egotrippen | heh |
16:00 |
16:00:02 | webguest60 | does rockbox supports mp2? |
16:00:06 | stripwax | webguest60 - oops, oh yeah. |
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16:00:21 | Bger | stripwax also amiconn is messing up with the ata timings for another ~35% better perf.... |
16:00:35 | preglow | amiconn's latest asm blob arouses me in ways it shouldn't |
16:00:38 | Zagor | time to resume the meeting |
16:00:47 | [IDC]Dragon | cu |
16:00:47 | webguest28 | egotrippen: that only affects the build-step, so the files will still be updated by cvs |
16:00:48 | stripwax | neat. I'll not upgrade to bleeding just yet in case there's any bugs.. |
16:00:57 | Mikachu | Bger: messing up with != messing with :) |
16:00:59 | egotrippen | ok |
16:01:04 | [IDC]Dragon | now we go downstairs again |
16:01:20 | webguest60 | stripwax: cool.. in which codec can i find the source for the mp2 decoder? |
16:01:22 | Bger | Mikachu ah, my "good" english...:) |
16:01:50 | stripwax | webguest60 - huh? |
16:01:51 | Bger | webguest60 mad ... |
16:02:13 | stripwax | oh. damn. webguest28 != webguest60. damn autocomplete |
16:02:34 | Bger | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/codecs/libmad/ |
16:02:47 | webguest60 | Bger: thanks... i want to look at it, becuase i need a mp2 decoder for a project and i dont want to use ffmpeg only for mp2 |
16:03:03 | webguest60 | stripwax: no problem *g* |
16:03:30 | webguest28 | Lear: Just went ogg->mp3->ogg without problems.. now unless I accidently downloaded the wrong build.. |
16:04:06 | Bger | webguest60 then u'll probably want an unmodified libmad .... |
16:04:25 | Bger | http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/ |
16:04:27 | webguest28 | Unless your project runs on a coldfire processor |
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16:05:19 | webguest60 | Bger: cool.. the project is for x86 arch |
16:05:24 | webguest28 | Lear: which I might just have done... hang on... |
16:05:34 | webguest28 | Silly me. |
16:06:39 | webguest28 | Or actually, maybe it was a write-cache problem. I could've sworn I told windows not to use write-caching |
16:07:13 | Mikachu | why would write cache be a problem? |
16:07:36 | Mikachu | as long as you empty the cache before you unplug it |
16:07:40 | webguest28 | Because I unzip a build, unplug the iriver, and the new build is never committed to disk |
16:08:17 | webguest28 | Well, I didn't. Because I thought it wasn't necessary |
16:08:26 | webguest28 | Still though, ogg->mp3->ogg went fine, just now |
16:08:30 | stripwax | you have to "safely remove" first though, anyway, even without write cache. |
16:09:17 | webguest28 | Why on earth? |
16:09:38 | * | webguest28 pummels Microsoft |
16:09:47 | Mikachu | there could be things in the fs driver that hasn't been pushed to the write cache/device yet probably |
16:10:26 | stripwax | well, you might not need to, but it depends how you copy the file. if you use a dosbox or cygwin command to unzip the file to your iriver, you won't need to 'safely remove'. but if you drag+drop using windows, you probably will need to 'safely remove', else windows will get confused and might fail to recognise the device next time it's plugged in |
16:10:32 | stripwax | Don't ask me why, though. |
16:10:53 | stripwax | Maybe what Mikachu said, yeah |
16:11:01 | webguest28 | Oh well, that's not a concern. Haven't had that |
16:11:01 | Mikachu | i'm not sure about fat filesystems, but at least on ext* you definitely need to unmount them first in order for them to be marked as cleanly unmounted |
16:11:37 | webguest28 | well yes, that's totally different though |
16:12:01 | webguest28 | You can (and I regularly do) yank fat drives mounted with the sync option with no ill effects |
16:12:11 | webguest28 | And expect the contents to be what you want |
16:12:24 | Mikachu | you don't want to mount fat flash with the sync option in linux |
16:12:25 | webguest28 | Of course, that's on a sane OS |
16:12:39 | webguest28 | Hm? |
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16:12:49 | Mikachu | it will update the fat tables more often than needed |
16:12:50 | Mikachu | i think |
16:12:55 | webguest28 | And? |
16:13:17 | Mikachu | a lot more |
16:13:40 | webguest28 | I'm not following |
16:14:07 | webguest28 | why is this a big problem? |
16:14:13 | webguest28 | it's slower.. |
16:15:55 | * | preglow has to go |
16:15:59 | Mikachu | webguest28: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0602.3/0776.html |
16:17:00 | webguest28 | Oh, _flash_ |
16:17:02 | webguest28 | well, yes |
16:17:10 | webguest28 | The iriver is not flash though |
16:17:15 | Mikachu | ah right |
16:17:39 | webguest28 | And probably also not a "ultra crap device" :) |
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16:17:47 | Mikachu | when you say you regularly yank usb devices, i figured at least some of them would be flash |
16:18:30 | webguest28 | Fair enough, I really just meant the iriver |
16:18:49 | webguest28 | But, it seems that this is about yanking _during_ a write |
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16:19:08 | Mikachu | and speed |
16:19:14 | webguest28 | Which would be silly, regardless |
16:19:35 | stripwax | how can you be certain the write operation has completed? answer: by "safely removing" the device. |
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16:19:39 | webguest28 | Yeah, but the danger isif you pull it while the FAT is being updated, IIUC |
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16:20:11 | webguest28 | stripwax: no, with the sync option, the write operation is completed once the copy dialog is gone |
16:20:32 | webguest28 | or at least, a few milliseconds later |
16:20:45 | Mikachu | should be a few milliseconds before.. |
16:20:55 | webguest28 | True |
16:20:57 | t0mas | why not just unmount? |
16:21:05 | * | t0mas has an alias for it... |
16:21:06 | webguest28 | quiet! |
16:21:10 | stripwax | t0mas how does one 'unmount' in windows? |
16:21:15 | t0mas | just type uir |
16:21:18 | Mikachu | stripwax: the safe eject thing |
16:21:20 | t0mas | unmount iriver |
16:21:24 | stripwax | Mikachu - yes.. I know that... |
16:21:26 | t0mas | aaah Windows |
16:21:32 | t0mas | in systray there is an icon |
16:21:33 | Mikachu | stripwax: then why did you ask? |
16:21:40 | webguest28 | well, we're havig a mix of linux/windows discussion it seems |
16:21:42 | t0mas | with a green arraw |
16:21:49 | t0mas | *arrow |
16:21:56 | webguest28 | But.. in windows, once you "mark for safe removal", you should not need to "safely eject" |
16:21:59 | t0mas | if you click it, you can select the device to disconnect |
16:22:01 | stripwax | Mikachu - to illustrate the point to webguest28, actually. *I* know |
16:22:02 | webguest28 | At least, that's the theory |
16:22:17 | webguest28 | I believe it even says so in the dialog |
16:22:19 | egotrippen | sometimes the systry icon isn't there |
16:22:30 | stripwax | egotrippen - really? |
16:22:34 | t0mas | stupid os |
16:22:37 | t0mas | it should be there |
16:22:46 | t0mas | but hey... if it's not there... just pull it... |
16:22:46 | stripwax | It is |
16:22:47 | egotrippen | i keep 2 portable HDs, sometimes the iriver, and a laptop-port soundcard |
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16:22:58 | egotrippen | the icon is usually there, but sometimes not |
16:22:58 | t0mas | if it malfunctions, install a decent OS |
16:23:07 | egotrippen | heh |
16:23:08 | stripwax | egotrippen - are you sure you don't have the 'hide unused systray icons' feature enabled? |
16:23:12 | egotrippen | yeah |
16:23:21 | egotrippen | i hate that shiz |
16:23:30 | webguest28 | I enjoy it |
16:23:32 | t0mas | well... www.debian.org should fix it all |
16:23:33 | egotrippen | i also don't like how it hides start menu buttons |
16:23:34 | webguest28 | after I tuned it |
16:23:46 | egotrippen | yeah, i tried MEPIS for a while, which i think is based on Debian |
16:23:49 | stripwax | "hides start menu buttons" ?? how many start menus do you have?/ |
16:24:02 | t0mas | you can btw disable that icon hiding |
16:24:11 | egotrippen | can you? i never found the option |
16:24:16 | t0mas | right click taskbar |
16:24:17 | t0mas | settings |
16:24:25 | t0mas | or properties or something |
16:24:38 | t0mas | then there is a checkbox that says something like "hide not used icons" |
16:24:40 | t0mas | uncheck it... |
16:24:44 | t0mas | plop.. icons back |
16:24:55 | webguest28 | "This setting disables write caching on the disk and in Windows, so you can disconnect this device without using the Safe Removal icon." |
16:25:01 | stripwax | t0mas - didn't egotrippen just say he already has that disabled? |
16:25:04 | stripwax | or am I on crack |
16:25:05 | webguest28 | So... one would *THINK* that you didn't have to do that. |
16:25:16 | t0mas | stripwax: I'll call the cops ;) |
16:25:17 | egotrippen | the systray iconns, yeah |
16:25:21 | egotrippen | i mean the start menu |
16:25:28 | stripwax | webguest28 - interesting. presumably you'd still need to wait until the write has completed though |
16:25:43 | stripwax | egotrippen - yeah, I don't know what you mean by the "start menu hiding icons" though |
16:25:50 | t0mas | hm? |
16:25:51 | webguest28 | stripwax: but the write finishes as the dialog goes away |
16:25:53 | stripwax | hm? |
16:25:54 | egotrippen | start menu==>programs |
16:25:54 | webguest28 | not a second later |
16:25:58 | t0mas | it's hiding the start menu programs? |
16:25:59 | Mikachu | "personalized start menu" option |
16:26:02 | t0mas | ah |
16:26:03 | egotrippen | on XP a ton of them are hidden unless you click the arrow |
16:26:03 | t0mas | yes |
16:26:10 | t0mas | I've disabled that too... on my windows box |
16:26:14 | egotrippen | hm |
16:26:16 | egotrippen | remember how? |
16:26:29 | t0mas | something with [16:26:00] <Mikachu> "personalized start menu" option |
16:26:33 | stripwax | egotrippen - not on mine they're not. right click the Start button? |
16:26:40 | stripwax | click Customize |
16:26:54 | webguest28 | "Use personalized menus" |
16:27:10 | stripwax | "Number of programs on Start Menu" - is that the thing you mean? |
16:27:18 | egotrippen | maybe |
16:27:30 | t0mas | no stripwax |
16:27:32 | webguest28 | Are you using the "new" or "classic" start menu? |
16:27:33 | t0mas | that's the list of most used apps |
16:27:43 | webguest28 | The new one makes me want to vomit |
16:27:45 | egotrippen | hah! that got it |
16:27:46 | egotrippen | classic |
16:28:01 | stripwax | webguest28 - hehe |
16:28:02 | egotrippen | it was the 'use personalized menus' |
16:28:14 | egotrippen | what a cryptic option |
16:28:21 | webguest60 | does anybody know how far a bootloader for iAudio X5 is? |
16:28:26 | * | t0mas wonders why it's not in the XP style startmenu options? |
16:28:35 | egotrippen | anyway, i tried MEPIS for a while, and got it going pretty well on a desktop |
16:28:41 | webguest28 | t0mas: Because they know best, probably |
16:28:49 | t0mas | yeah, normally they do... |
16:28:57 | egotrippen | but the laptop had problems with the touchpad and the TV-out |
16:28:59 | * | t0mas switches his laptop to classic startmenu |
16:29:00 | egotrippen | so i got lazy |
16:29:04 | * | Febs considers getting rid of Windows entirely and installing Linux. |
16:29:11 | Febs | Windows is driving me crazy. |
16:29:17 | t0mas | Febs: just keep both |
16:29:25 | t0mas | I'll eventually walk into some windows-only app |
16:29:33 | t0mas | like the tax apps in the Netherlands |
16:29:35 | t0mas | idiots... |
16:29:39 | Febs | That's probably what I'll end up doing, since I need Windows for compatibility with my office. |
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16:29:47 | egotrippen | if i coulda got my touchpad working right..... |
16:29:56 | Febs | But for some reason that I have to figure out, Windows has decided to stop recognizing my optical drives. |
16:29:57 | t0mas | for normal people they have some pdf form... but for businesses you still need to run a Windows application |
16:30:11 | egotrippen | whenever i used a USB mouse it would disable the touchpad entirely, for some reason |
16:30:12 | stripwax | t0mas - does it run under Wine? |
16:30:14 | egotrippen | i'd have to re-install it |
16:30:25 | stripwax | egotrippen - sounds like a BIOS problem |
16:30:32 | t0mas | stripwax: never tried... using my laptop (with windows) for company stuff anyway |
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16:30:36 | webguest28 | Or just an X problem |
16:30:47 | egotrippen | yeah? i've never been confident enough to screw around with BIOS |
16:30:49 | t0mas | but I can try |
16:30:57 | egotrippen | OSs i can re-install if i screw up |
16:31:14 | Febs | The easiest solution for me would be to re-install Windows ... except that it comes on a CD, and since Windows is not recognizing my CD drive ... |
16:31:14 | t0mas | egotrippen: you can also reset the BIOS to default settings if you screw up |
16:31:24 | t0mas | Febs: but you can boot from that cd... |
16:31:28 | t0mas | and install windows |
16:31:35 | stripwax | t0mas - you can't reflash if you screw up the flash though |
16:31:53 | Febs | For some reason, it won't boot from that CD. It *will* boot from other bootable CDs that I have, so I know that the drive is functioning. |
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16:32:01 | t0mas | stripwax: 1. You don't screw up the flash when changing settings... 2. On new pc's you can |
16:32:16 | stripwax | t0mas - upgrading the BIOS could screw up hte BIOS, no .. ? |
16:32:27 | t0mas | not on mine... |
16:32:33 | sneakums | dunno if this is a new bug, but with the current cvs build on h120, it'll only play two songs in a row at a time |
16:32:36 | t0mas | MSI has some bios resque options |
16:32:41 | t0mas | new Asus boards have it too |
16:32:54 | webguest28 | sneakums: Seems to be related to the optimized ATA driver |
16:32:54 | stripwax | do laptops? which is the thing that was being discussed... |
16:33:01 | sneakums | ah, i did wonder |
16:33:09 | sneakums | apart from that, the driver seems dreamy :) |
16:33:15 | webguest28 | amiconn is on the case. At least, once he gets back to coding |
16:33:16 | stripwax | webguest28 - right, definitely not going to upgrade to bleeding just yet |
16:33:18 | stripwax | :-) |
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16:33:29 | webguest28 | Didn't happen to me though, strangely |
16:33:52 | webguest28 | or maybe I was just lucky |
16:33:55 | stripwax | Febs - try removing the optical drivers from your Device Manager, then reboot. Or are they not even showing up in Device Maneger |
16:33:56 | stripwax | ? |
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16:34:07 | stripwax | ^drivers^drives |
16:34:33 | webguest28 | sneakums: And also, it seems he'll be able to add another 35% increase. |
16:34:33 | * | stripwax reads z80.c and gets all dewy-eyed |
16:35:03 | sneakums | wow |
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16:36:15 | sneakums | i may have asked this before, but the "slow but usable" ipod 5g video driver, is it just too slow for video? would i even notice coming from using rockbox on an h120? |
16:36:25 | egotrippen | oh man, you don't know what you've done for me |
16:36:36 | egotrippen | maybe i can clear off my desktop now, and actually use the start menu |
16:37:30 | Febs | t0mas, yeah, I tried deleting all of the drivers. Windows finds the drive, but says that it can't initialize it. I also tried a different drive, different cable, and different IDE port. Same issue. |
16:37:52 | t0mas | weird |
16:37:53 | stripwax | Febs - try reinstall your chipset drivers. are you VIA? |
16:37:55 | webguest28 | sneakums: some people have playback skips with "heavy" WPSs, but that's it, I think |
16:38:01 | Febs | Did that. |
16:38:05 | stripwax | hrm.. |
16:38:10 | sneakums | sweet, my wps is fairly light |
16:38:11 | stripwax | are you sure they're not faulty? |
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16:38:41 | webguest28 | sneakums: Better ask someone with a Video though, I guess.. could try in the rockbox forums |
16:38:50 | Febs | No. I'm not sure how to check that. |
16:39:03 | stripwax | I guess, do they work in someone else's PC? |
16:39:32 | stripwax | or actually - do they work in Safe mode? |
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16:39:52 | webguest28 | There we go. Codec failure. |
16:40:03 | Febs | They don't work in safe mode. |
16:40:13 | Febs | I should go test them in my other PC. |
16:40:23 | stripwax | Febs give it a go |
16:40:31 | Febs | But the odds of two different drives having identical problems seems slim. |
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16:41:33 | Febs | I've backed up all of my data, so I'm thinking I'm just going to reformat and reinstall Windows. |
16:41:47 | Febs | I've been meaning to do that anyway. |
16:41:47 | stripwax | Anyone know how well coldfire's branch prediction works? Would code like ( a += ((x&0x80)>> 8 ) perform better or worse than if( x&0x80 ) a++ ? |
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16:58:06 | ohrn | stripwax: afaik the V2 core doesn't have branch prediction |
16:58:58 | stripwax | okie doke. so it's just a question of t-states really. if's probably quickest then. |
17:00 |
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17:03:20 | TiMiD | hi |
17:06:56 | Paprica | someone know where is screen_put_cursorxy function located? |
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17:08:35 | Moos | Paprica: hi, where are the source for your Tetris Rb clone please? |
17:09:01 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/task/4837 |
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17:09:18 | Moos | thanks |
17:09:28 | Paprica | =] |
17:09:53 | * | t0mas is bored... |
17:10:12 | Paprica | t0mas, |
17:10:13 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Paprica |
17:10:13 | Paprica | [::] <Paprica> someone know where is screen_put_cursorxy function located? |
17:10:15 | Nico_P | Paprica: maybe you could add an option to start at a higher level... it's much too slow atm |
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17:10:30 | t0mas | there is a really nice command for that Paprica... |
17:10:32 | t0mas | grep... |
17:11:14 | Mikachu | or even better, ctags |
17:11:55 | Paprica | mm grep without nothing? |
17:12:06 | Mikachu | grep −−help :P |
17:12:14 | t0mas | hmz |
17:12:15 | t0mas | [tomas@nigel rockbox-devel]$ grep 'screen_put_cursorxy' `find -name *.c` |
17:12:15 | t0mas | ./apps/gui/icon.c:void screen_put_cursorxy(struct screen * display, int x, int y, bool on) |
17:12:18 | t0mas | ./apps/gui/list.c: screen_put_cursorxy(display, cursor_xpos, selected_line, gui_list->cursor_flash_state); |
17:12:21 | t0mas | ./apps/gui/list.c: screen_put_cursorxy(display, 0, selected_line, gui_list->cursor_flash_state); |
17:12:24 | t0mas | ./apps/gui/list.c: screen_put_cursorxy(display, cursor_pos, i, true); |
17:12:41 | Paprica | 10x! |
17:12:44 | t0mas | it looks like it's defined in /apps/gui/icon.c |
17:12:48 | Mikachu | i just type edit -t screen_put_cursorxy and my editor starts in apps/gui/icon.c at line 47 |
17:13:09 | t0mas | interesting |
17:13:10 | t0mas | ctags? |
17:13:19 | Mikachu | yeah, you need a ctags compatible editor too |
17:13:24 | Mikachu | ctags only generates the index |
17:13:29 | t0mas | emacs :) |
17:13:31 | t0mas | or vim? |
17:13:36 | Mikachu | both have it |
17:13:41 | t0mas | nice |
17:13:45 | Mikachu | vim even has a toolbar button for generating the index :) |
17:13:48 | Mikachu | gvim that is |
17:13:52 | t0mas | lol |
17:13:53 | t0mas | gvim... |
17:14:20 | t0mas | that doesn't run in screen ;) |
17:14:31 | Mikachu | it doesn't |
17:14:35 | Mikachu | but why would i want that? |
17:14:40 | sharpe | sharpe is back! |
17:14:41 | t0mas | I want it... |
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17:14:47 | * | t0mas runs... |
17:14:47 | stripwax | sharpe - hows the maze? |
17:14:49 | t0mas | he's back! |
17:14:50 | Mikachu | then you can run it in screen and i run gvim :) |
17:14:58 | sharpe | i'm back! |
17:15:03 | t0mas | waaah |
17:15:05 | Mikachu | t0mas: i think the command is ctags -R . |
17:15:09 | sharpe | lol... |
17:15:22 | sharpe | stripwax, was just going back to working on it, just got home. |
17:15:22 | t0mas | Mikachu: ok, I\'ll test it... |
17:15:25 | t0mas | omg... |
17:15:32 | * | stripwax checks out ctags.. |
17:15:33 | Mikachu | you don't need to escape quotes on irc ;) |
17:15:36 | t0mas | something is wrong when you start to escape quotes in a chat |
17:15:44 | * | t0mas exits Zend studio |
17:15:54 | t0mas | enough done for today |
17:16:09 | Mikachu | i even have tab completion for -t in my shell, but that's for next week :) |
17:16:28 | t0mas | hmz... added to bash autocompletion list? |
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17:16:32 | Mikachu | i use zsh |
17:16:35 | t0mas | ah |
17:16:41 | t0mas | bash can do something like it too... |
17:16:49 | Mikachu | % cat .zsh/_vim |
17:16:50 | Mikachu | #compdef vim gvim edit |
17:16:50 | Mikachu | _arguments '-t:tags:_complete_tag' '*:files:_files' |
17:17:13 | Mikachu | and of course, i can click on a function inside vim (or press ctrl-]) and it jumps to the definition |
17:17:24 | * | t0mas loves linux |
17:17:26 | Mikachu | or variable name, or define, or ..., |
17:17:42 | Mikachu | haha, |
17:17:43 | Mikachu | Little Wizard 1.1.2 |
17:17:43 | Mikachu | A development environment for children. |
17:17:57 | * | stripwax hates debugging apps under linux.. |
17:17:57 | sharpe | cdev! |
17:18:18 | * | sharpe doesn't use linux, due to no support for his wireless card. |
17:18:39 | stripwax | sharpe - which card? tried gentoo? |
17:18:46 | t0mas | mine works fine... |
17:18:49 | t0mas | with ndiswrapper |
17:18:53 | t0mas | almost all cards work with it... |
17:18:58 | stripwax | t0mas - that's cheating ;-) |
17:18:59 | t0mas | just load a windows driver :) |
17:19:01 | sharpe | would broadcom work with it? |
17:19:02 | t0mas | sssst |
17:19:07 | t0mas | I don't know |
17:19:08 | t0mas | try it |
17:19:10 | sharpe | lol |
17:19:14 | t0mas | or google for it ;) |
17:19:23 | sharpe | eh, i never found any drivers for it |
17:19:29 | sharpe | damn you, linksys! |
17:19:42 | stripwax | linksys? broadcom? huh? |
17:20:01 | sharpe | made by linksys, broadcom chipset apparantly... |
17:20:05 | sharpe | or, |
17:20:14 | sharpe | labeled by linksys, made by broadcom |
17:20:31 | stripwax | oh , ok. try gentoo anyway, see what happens ;-) |
17:20:37 | sharpe | lopl |
17:20:44 | sharpe | heh, i will sometime |
17:20:58 | t0mas | broadcom... isn't that supported natively by new 2.6 kernels? |
17:21:15 | stripwax | native wireless? wow! |
17:21:39 | t0mas | google... |
17:21:40 | t0mas | http://www.gidforums.com/t-4390.html |
17:22:02 | t0mas | http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ |
17:22:31 | * | t0mas runs off again... time to do something else than programming.. |
17:22:41 | t0mas | before I start escaping quotes in real life :P |
17:22:51 | stripwax | so that's still ndiswrapper, which isn't native. i'm confused |
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17:37:49 | Zagor | hey guys |
17:38:02 | Zagor | you're not going to believe this, but we've agreed on a release schedule |
17:38:49 | sharpe | do i believe it? |
17:38:55 | Moos | for wich platforms? :-) |
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17:39:14 | Zagor | next release, 3.0, will be for Archos and Iriver |
17:39:37 | Moos | Cool ! |
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17:39:49 | Moos | where is this schedule? |
17:40:25 | Zagor | it's not up yet |
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17:40:27 | * | Moos is looking Zagor at phone :-) |
17:40:29 | Moos | ok |
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17:41:14 | sharpe | yay, new 'avatar'! |
17:41:25 | Moos | Zagor: is that will too soon than we can't included a futur iAudio release with? |
17:43:19 | Nico_P | Moos: not a chance: there is no iaudio bootloader yet and it takes time between getting rockbox to run on target and including it in an 'official' release |
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17:43:44 | amiconn | [16:00:35] <preglow> amiconn's latest asm blob arouses me in ways it shouldn't <= in what way(s)? |
17:43:46 | Nico_P | that's why 3.0 won't support ipds |
17:43:48 | Moos | Nico: ça depend ;) |
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17:43:57 | Moos | depending to the release date :) |
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17:44:24 | Zagor | Nico_P: correct. ipod and iaudio is for 3.1 |
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17:44:47 | Moos | oh 3.1 already planed too, good then :) |
17:44:59 | B4gder | t0mas: still here? |
17:45:23 | Nico_P | wow.. lots of people all of the sudden |
17:45:27 | B4gder | and 4.2 will conquer the world! |
17:45:28 | [IDC]Dragon | main issues are tagdb and codec/voice |
17:45:47 | stripwax | tagdb is certainly an issue atm.. |
17:45:53 | [IDC]Dragon | we'll announce a feature freeze soon |
17:46:06 | tucoz | Not that I think the old logo is bad, it's just that this one looks more 'future' if you know what I mean. Maybe consider a new logo with the new release :-) http://rbh300.chendo.net/h300expFULL.png |
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17:47:00 | Zagor | tucoz: too late. we have shirts now! :-) |
17:47:00 | webguest28 | I like the almost-abstract logo to the left |
17:47:08 | tucoz | Zagor,bummer ;-) |
17:47:08 | Moos | stripwax: before HCl retouch, Zagor's tagdb was good enough for release |
17:47:35 | stripwax_ | Moos - so does that mean revert before release? or fix? |
17:47:47 | B4gder | we decided we intend to strive for Slasheri's approach |
17:47:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zagor: Will the shirts be sold, by chance? |
17:48:03 | stripwax_ | I forget which is which .... which is the one that doesn't crash rockbox? |
17:48:16 | stripwax_ | ;-) |
17:48:22 | Moos | stripwax: Slasheri approach will be so far "better" but depending on Slasheri alone |
17:48:23 | Zagor | Paul_The_Nerd: I guess we could set up a cafepress store or similar |
17:48:32 | tucoz | stripwax, Slasheri's approach is the tagcache one |
17:48:48 | Mikachu | i saw binary size was on the agenda, and speaking of the logo, isn't it compiled into the binary now? |
17:48:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zagor: I know *I* would buy one of those ones I've seen you folk so fashionably displaying over there at decvon |
17:48:52 | Mikachu | maybe you could load it from fat instead |
17:48:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | devcon |
17:49:04 | stripwax_ | I guess I'll have to read the wiki to understand the diff between tagcache and tagdb |
17:49:09 | * | stripwax_ starts reading |
17:49:10 | B4gder | Mikachu: can't load, it shows before ata init etc |
17:49:15 | Mikachu | ah |
17:49:28 | tucoz | ...fashionably displaying them like factory droids, eh :-D |
17:49:29 | Moos | stripwax: tagdb was introduce by HCl's changes |
17:49:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax_: Tagcache = built runtime. TagDB = prebuilt on host computer. |
17:49:40 | Mikachu | B4gder: does that take long? |
17:49:48 | Mikachu | or maybe the logo isn't so big that it matters anyway |
17:49:49 | B4gder | Mikachu: spinning up the disk does |
17:50:06 | Mikachu | won't it be spinned up from the fact that we just started the device and loaded the rockbox binary? |
17:50:10 | Moos | stripwax: he changed both tagdb and runtime db err: modified the tag db introduce runtime db |
17:50:12 | stripwax_ | Paul_The_Nerd - ah cool. tagcache is the one I figured would be best anyway. |
17:50:14 | B4gder | besides, on Archos the logo is very small |
17:50:44 | Mikachu | okay, was just a thought |
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17:51:32 | stripwax_ | Any likelihood of rombox for iriver at any point? istr there's no driver for flash or eeprom yet, just wondering if that's something desirable or not |
17:52:01 | B4gder | stripwax: slasheri had it running |
17:52:23 | Moos | Flasheri :-) |
17:52:59 | * | Zagor will take down the web server a while. DON'T PANIC! :-) |
17:53:11 | * | B4gder is scared |
17:53:12 | tucoz | iiik |
17:53:14 | Moos | haha :D |
17:53:21 | * | Cassandra panics. |
17:53:29 | Slasheri | yep, that works. But another question is, would there really be enough benefits from it so people would start flashing it |
17:53:57 | Zagor | this means those of you on cgiirc will be kicked off. sorry about that and welcome back in a bit. |
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17:54:10 | Moos | less point will be for people updating a lot her Rb version |
17:54:39 | Moos | lot of flashing instead of unziping one .rar file :) |
17:54:54 | tucoz | The irivers boot quite fast now. Especially (I think) since Jens assembler session. |
17:55:03 | Moos | it is one advantage for swcodecs platforms |
17:55:15 | amiconn | hehe, will be even faster soon (I hope) |
17:55:36 | amiconn | Linus will bring his logic analyser, then we'll verify ata timings |
17:55:48 | * | Moos apllauses :) |
17:55:56 | tucoz | amiconn, wow. |
17:55:59 | Slasheri | hehe, that's impressive :) |
17:56:12 | Slasheri | just compiling the new build |
17:57:01 | Mikachu | http://mikachu.ath.cx/shot.jpg if you still want to view the webcam :) |
17:57:04 | Mikachu | but no autorefresh there |
17:57:45 | Zagor | actually the old page still works. just don't reload it. |
17:57:58 | Mikachu | true |
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18:00:36 | imphasing_ | I see a lot of archos players in that shot.. |
18:00:37 | imphasing_ | :) |
18:01:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | I still need to get my hands on an Archos. My brother has one he *never* uses, I'm just hoping he hasn't gotten rid of it |
18:01:41 | B4gder | I'm sure Jörg can sell you a broken one ;-P |
18:01:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | The idea would be for me to be able to actually *use* it. |
18:01:59 | B4gder | the ones you see there on his table is from his junkyard |
18:02:08 | imphasing_ | Damn europeans and their umlauts...wish my keyboard had those. |
18:02:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I like when people say "Has anyone got an X with which to test this patch" that I can say "Yes." |
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18:02:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | My IRC client doesn't even show umlauts. Also, how do you pronounce that name? |
18:03:06 | Mikachu | like bird |
18:03:13 | B4gder | or learn |
18:03:14 | Mikachu | but j and g instead |
18:03:16 | [IDC]Dragon | back without CGIIRC |
18:03:33 | Mikachu | and i don't know how to explain non-english r sounds in english |
18:03:53 | Mikachu | like a scottish or pirate r maybe :) |
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19:55:05 | aaronfg | quick wps question, on the wiki it shows an example of using images for battery life. Is this limited to 4 imgs like in the example? And if not, how many iterations can you make? |
19:55:14 | Zagor | phew, web server is now back up |
19:56:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | aaronfg: I think it's limited right now. |
19:56:50 | lostlogic | Mikachu: you don't, but that's the order the code is executed |
19:57:24 | aaronfg | Paul_The_Nerd: ok, thanks |
19:58:12 | Mikachu | lostlogic: so then it's possible in theory at least |
19:58:13 | Lear | aaronfg: but it is actually 6 images in total. |
19:58:43 | lostlogic | Mikachu: not with major rehashing of the button code |
19:58:47 | lostlogic | without |
19:58:48 | aaronfg | jesus, another error compiling the normal build, this time dealing with pacbox: No rule to make target 'pacbox_arm.S', needed by '/home/aaronfg/rockbox-devel/build5gn/apps/plugins/pacbox/dep-pacbox'. Stop |
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19:59:29 | stripwax | aaronfg - is your source up to date (cvs update)? |
19:59:53 | Mikachu | hm, my nano just shutdown while playing pacman |
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20:00:03 | aaronfg | i was trying to run that before but it kept timing uopt |
20:00:04 | Mikachu | and apple says the battery is full |
20:00:17 | aaronfg | ^out |
20:00:19 | stripwax | aaronfg - yeah, try now, now that the website is back up ...l. |
20:00:23 | aaronfg | ok |
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20:01:49 | Mikachu | does anyone want to commit these small button fixes for flipit or should i add it to the tracker? http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-flipit_ipod-buttons.patch |
20:04:30 | aaronfg | Lear: 6? the wiki shows %?bl<0|1|2|3|4> which is 5, 0-4 |
20:05:02 | aaronfg | stripwax: just did a cvs update and i'm still getting that pacbox wrror |
20:05:04 | aaronfg | error |
20:07:15 | Zagor | Mikachu: are those changes uncontested? |
20:07:33 | Mikachu | i don't know |
20:07:48 | Mikachu | but i thought it was small enough |
20:08:50 | Zagor | i'm just asking because changing buttons can sometimes be a delicate issue :-) |
20:09:32 | Zagor | i'll commit it and listen for screams :-) |
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20:09:36 | Mikachu | hehe |
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20:09:50 | Mikachu | the three second delay with no text on screen was a bit confusing |
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20:10:26 | Lear | aaronfg: yep, but as mentioned on the mailing list, that's wrong. |
20:11:10 | aaronfg | Lear: so, syntax-wise it's correct, just should be %?bl<0|1|2|3|4|5> ? |
20:11:13 | amiconn | s**t! It seems all odd alignment cases are broken... |
20:11:28 | amiconn | What the heck did I do? |
20:11:44 | sharpe | it's kind of scary when you see "time remaining: 00:02:120" |
20:12:32 | stripwax | Working on an interpolated pixel blt for H1x0 pacbox. Not sure of framerate impact yet, I ought to write it in coldfire asm. But it looks sweet in sim. |
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20:12:44 | stripwax | Like - really sweet. |
20:12:55 | amiconn | stripwax: grayscale lib? |
20:13:07 | stripwax | no. |
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20:23:25 | yan | Hi all |
20:23:48 | yan | Does rockbox could run on a iPon-Nano ? |
20:24:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes. |
20:24:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I user Rockbox on my iPod Nano |
20:24:12 | sharpe | si seinor. |
20:24:37 | yan | Paul_The_Nerd: and it works well? |
20:25:20 | stripwax | seems to |
20:25:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | yan: It works brilliantly. It doesn't show proper battery status yet, but other than that it's lovely. |
20:26:41 | yan | Paul_The_Nerd: Oh it's cool :) |
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20:27:22 | yan | Paul_The_Nerd: I'll test it on my 4th generation iPod. Do you think I must recompile a firmware or use a pre-built one if it exists ? |
20:27:38 | sharpe | you can use the cvs build... |
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20:28:25 | stripwax | What can rockbox *not* do on 5g that stock ipod firmware can do? out of interest. I'd like to surprise my gf with a 5g for her birthday, on the condition that she uses rockbox ;-) |
20:28:40 | B4gder | hehe |
20:28:45 | sharpe | um... |
20:28:52 | amiconn | video playback I think |
20:28:58 | sharpe | that's about it... |
20:29:01 | Zagor | stripwax: drm aac |
20:29:32 | yan | sharpe: cvs build... do you have an URL for me please? |
20:29:43 | stripwax | video playback would be nice. don't care a s**t about drm (or aac for that matter). |
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20:30:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | yan: There's builds at the rockbox site. |
20:30:26 | webguest28 | amiconn: how's ATA doing? |
20:30:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: DRM acc, high bitrate aac (too slow still), and video aren't supported in Rockbox yet. |
20:30:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | drm aac even |
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20:32:08 | webguest60 | hi |
20:32:33 | webguest60 | I was wondering if you will code for the iAudio X5 port on the DevCon because the agenda doesn't show that |
20:33:03 | B4gder | correct |
20:33:15 | B4gder | the agenda is mostly about planning and talk |
20:33:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | The devcon's most important output will be discussion results, I think. Programming can be done anywhere, in the end. |
20:34:02 | B4gder | but there is x5 progress anyway |
20:34:27 | Moos | O.O |
20:34:41 | Moos | B4gder: what are they? :) |
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20:34:50 | Zagor | yeah, but doom is a little slow on it yet |
20:34:54 | B4gder | ah, darned, did I let anything from the conspiracy out now? ;-) |
20:35:04 | Moos | hehe :-) |
20:35:37 | B4gder | Moos: linus found that the pll settings are different on this coldfire than on the 5249 |
20:35:42 | B4gder | for example |
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20:35:58 | * | stripwax eeeks |
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20:36:14 | Moos | Bagder: Very good to hear, thanks for the info |
20:36:36 | B4gder | and he ruined MY x5 with his crappy bootloader ;-) |
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20:36:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
20:36:56 | Moos | haha :D |
20:37:05 | B4gder | the x5 is a nice bootloader concept |
20:37:08 | B4gder | has |
20:37:19 | B4gder | almost impossible to brick |
20:37:23 | Moos | more safe than irivers , right? |
20:37:28 | Moos | ok |
20:37:39 | B4gder | yes, the flash/upgrade procedure remains |
20:37:50 | Moos | like with ipods too, right? |
20:38:42 | aaronfg | what do i have to do to let a patch go through without asking me to manually enter the filenames to patch each time? |
20:38:57 | webguest28 | Pass the right -p option |
20:39:09 | aaronfg | which is based on what |
20:39:22 | Mikachu | on the patch and which directory you're in |
20:39:22 | webguest28 | Fairy dust and letters to santa |
20:39:32 | webguest28 | It always seems like hit-and-miss to me |
20:39:59 | B4gder | aaronfg: based on the path names used with the patch files |
20:40:05 | B4gder | since -p tells patch to use that path |
20:40:16 | B4gder | and the number is how many slashes from the path to skip |
20:40:46 | aaronfg | so for an example, |
20:40:58 | aaronfg | if the patch is for "apps/screens.c" |
20:41:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | B4gder: If the number is how many slashes to skip, shouldn't -p0 not have any effect? |
20:41:32 | Mikachu | p0 is default |
20:41:33 | B4gder | Paul_The_Nerd: it has, since -p means use the given path |
20:41:36 | B4gder | Mikachu: no |
20:42:04 | B4gder | without the -p0 it skips the whole path and just use the file part or something like that |
20:42:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | B4gder: Ah. Thanks. So if you don't put -p anything on it, it looks for the files without path in your current folder? |
20:42:20 | aaronfg | so with -p0 it'll take the current path as the starting poiint? |
20:42:37 | B4gder | Paul_The_Nerd: that's how I understand it and I never manage without -p0 :-) |
20:42:39 | Mikachu | oh |
20:44:53 | yan | I found an iPod firmware which stands on 1.9mb in zip, and which is named rockbox.zip, is this ok? |
20:45:01 | yan | Or do I need something else? |
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20:45:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | yan: There should just be a link for Nano firmware at rockbox.org... |
20:45:59 | yan | On the main page? |
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20:46:16 | sharpe | gah, my plugins do not like me. |
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20:48:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Clearly they cannot. They're inanimate. |
20:48:38 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: that's what they want you to believe |
20:49:05 | sharpe | how do you know? you know, with my luck at programming i've made them senient and now they refuse to work for me without compensation for their time. |
20:50:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, if I had a sentient MP3 player, I'd be terrified. |
20:50:53 | * | Mikachu immediately comes to think of megaman exe |
20:50:54 | sharpe | yeah, it kind of fought against me when i tried to install rockbox |
20:51:13 | sharpe | had to get the wire ties out. |
20:51:31 | webguest60 | so what is the actual status of the bootloader for the X5? isn't the progress pretty far, in terms of a possible running rockbox but needs a bootloader? |
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20:52:39 | Moos | let's hope in LinusN |
20:52:40 | LinusN | just hang on for a few hours more :-) |
20:52:49 | * | B4gder hangs |
20:52:50 | Moos | hehe :) |
20:52:51 | sharpe | that's kind of funny... apparantly it was stuck in a for loop... |
20:53:17 | webguest60 | linus are you giving me a little hint that you are working on it? |
20:53:30 | kclaf | wat are you sinking abaaout |
20:53:34 | kclaf | ;D |
20:53:36 | webguest60 | didn't b4dger meantion that his X5 was destroyed with a crappy bootloader? |
20:53:44 | B4gder | not really |
20:53:51 | Zagor | 3 years 15 days old: Edit ID3 Tags |
20:53:52 | Zagor | 18 comments, 9 files: http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/1008 |
20:53:52 | B4gder | I'm just being silly |
20:53:54 | Moos | *destroyed* was a jock :) |
20:54:16 | webguest60 | ok |
20:54:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | 3 years... wow |
20:54:30 | webguest60 | but is linus working on it? what did oyu mean with hang on for a few more hours? |
20:54:36 | B4gder | it has a broken bootloader but it can easily be fixed |
20:55:02 | Moos | Zagor: with Slasheri's tagcache, we will can edit ID3 tags |
20:55:08 | Moos | on the fly |
20:55:18 | tim66 | Lear: did you sort out your playback glitches? I've been getting problems with the bleeding edge build from 10:112 today, had to ROLO a previous version to fix it |
20:55:29 | sharpe | red, green, or blue? |
20:55:33 | webguest60 | b4gder are you at the meeting? |
20:55:39 | Zagor | Moos: yeah, this was just an example of the horribly poor patch handling we've had |
20:55:49 | Moos | hehe :-) |
20:55:51 | B4gder | I'm a bot, how can I be at the meeting? |
20:55:54 | B4gder | :-P |
20:56:11 | tim66 | anyone else seen playback problems recently on iriver h120 / h140? I'm getting glitches after a few minutes of playback |
20:56:49 | bluebrother^ | tim66: me too. |
20:56:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | tim66: How new/old is the build, are the glitches only with that version of rockbox or have they been in for a few versions? |
20:57:24 | * | Zagor changes url for flyspray from /bugs to /tracker |
20:57:27 | bluebrother^ | I've had the issues with the cvs build after the ata change |
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20:57:50 | Lear | tim66: yes, asm ata read causes problems for me. |
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20:57:57 | Lear | the fix: disable it. :) |
20:58:06 | bluebrother^ | reverting back to todays daily build works fine. |
20:58:25 | bluebrother^ | so I assume it was the ata change. |
20:58:48 | sharpe | god. |
20:59:06 | sharpe | why did i not realize the source file was not in "SOURCES" to be compiled? |
20:59:19 | amiconn | xobkcor |
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20:59:56 | amiconn | Lear: There is a bug in the odd aligment read loop. I'm trying to track it down. |
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21:00:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | What does the release script do? |
21:01:17 | bluebrother^ | I haven't tried it much but it was kinda surprising that I encountered the glitches only for mp3 playback, ogg worked fine. |
21:01:48 | bluebrother^ | at least for the short time I tried. |
21:02:27 | B4gder | red red red :-) |
21:02:56 | * | B4gder considers doing the rare red build dance in front of the cam but goes for a beer instead |
21:04:50 | XavierGr | LOL. I would like to see that dance! |
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21:07:20 | Cassandra | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseTodo |
21:09:50 | [IDC]Dragon | yum |
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21:09:55 | * | Paul_The_Nerd does the maybe my name will make it into the 3.0 credits dance. |
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21:10:17 | B4gder | dance night! |
21:10:17 | Mikachu | you mean the CREDITS file? i got in there without even asking for it :) |
21:10:29 | sharpe | hmm... strangely odd... |
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21:10:56 | Cassandra | That shouldn't really happen. Do you want to be in the credits? |
21:10:57 | [IDC]Dragon | the ones who ask don't make it there |
21:11:05 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
21:11:14 | sharpe | looks like i'm good then. |
21:11:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Actually, I think the newest version of Doom doesn't contain anything I did, so I'm probably safe. ;-) |
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21:12:39 | * | Paul_The_Nerd does most of his contribution by trying to keep the forum noise level at an acceptable hum. |
21:14:44 | Cassandra | And we do love you for it/ |
21:14:47 | Mikachu | Cassandra: yeah it's all good |
21:14:54 | Mikachu | i just didn't expect it at the time |
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21:15:14 | Cassandra | I make a point of asking people before I put them in the credits/ |
21:16:04 | Mikachu | Zagor: here's a corresponding patch for sliding_puzzle, http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-sliding_puzzle_ipod-buttons.patch |
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21:16:27 | Zagor | ok |
21:17:07 | Mikachu | i'm not sure if maybe those two plugins should print a #warning for targets that don't have a help text |
21:17:17 | Mikachu | should get someone's attention to fix it :) |
21:19:58 | sharpe | this is... perplexing? |
21:20:44 | Zagor | sharpe: what is? |
21:21:22 | sharpe | eh, not sure... for some reason, i don't have an array that corresponds to all pixels on the lcd, but i should... |
21:21:44 | stripwax | sharpe - mmm? |
21:21:53 | sharpe | that pixel maze :P |
21:22:26 | sharpe | 1/4 of the screen... i guess isn't covered by the array... |
21:22:52 | amiconn | gotta reboot :/ |
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21:22:56 | stripwax | sharpe - weird.. LCD_WIDTH x LCD_HEIGHT should cover it ... |
21:23:05 | sharpe | yeah... |
21:23:09 | Mikachu | maybe you need to * with the color depth? |
21:23:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | depth / 8 |
21:23:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | I believe... |
21:23:28 | Mikachu | yeah, in bytes |
21:23:32 | sharpe | don't think it's that problem... |
21:23:53 | sharpe | the array is an array of bytes, each byte corresponds to the respective pixel on the screen |
21:24:16 | Mikachu | ah, you're not talking about a frame buffer |
21:24:18 | stripwax | how do you know it's not big enough then .. ? |
21:24:35 | sharpe | and it's ((LCD_WIDTH-(LCD_WIDTH%8))/8) x LCD_HEIGHT |
21:24:53 | stripwax | (huh?) |
21:24:55 | sharpe | but that should be 40x240 for my ipod |
21:24:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: Why do you want one byte per pixel? The LCDs on color targets are 16bpp, or 2 bytes per pixel, no? |
21:24:55 | Mikachu | isn't that superfluous? |
21:25:07 | stripwax | Paul_The_Nerd −− it's a maze... |
21:25:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
21:25:16 | sharpe | only need one bit per pixel |
21:25:18 | Mikachu | just do LCD_WIDTH/8 will give you an integer |
21:25:32 | Mikachu | but why are you dividing by eight? |
21:25:33 | sharpe | yeah, i know... |
21:25:41 | sharpe | eight bits per pixel |
21:25:43 | sharpe | er |
21:25:47 | sharpe | byte |
21:26:08 | Mikachu | eight bytes per pixel? i think one of us is confused now :) |
21:26:14 | stripwax | :-) |
21:26:20 | sharpe | eight bits per byte, eight pixels :) |
21:26:33 | stripwax | sharpe - so you want, (LCD_WIDTH x LCD_HEIGHT ) / 8 , no? |
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21:26:55 | sharpe | wait, let me try something... |
21:26:58 | stripwax | but like I said, how do you know your array is not big enough? |
21:27:12 | Mikachu | but width*height will give you an array with one array element per pixel |
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21:27:34 | sharpe | 40*8 = 320, and that should be the number of pixels for the width of the screen... |
21:27:47 | Mikachu | are you declaring it int? |
21:27:47 | sharpe | let me try it with just the lcd size |
21:27:50 | stripwax | Mikachu yep. he wants to store the maze walls as *bits* not *bytes*. one bit, per pixel. |
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21:29:06 | sharpe | yeh, it's not the array size that is the problem it would seem... |
21:29:09 | Mikachu | i'm not sure if that's a wise speed/space tradeoff |
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21:29:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, the plugin buffer is plenty big for something like that, unless you're planning on using it all elsewhere. |
20:31:45 | XavierGr | nice email Christi. Sums it up very tidy. |
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20:32:34 | B4gder | vote: |
20:32:41 | B4gder | blame bjorn: 3 |
20:32:47 | B4gder | blame someone else: 0 |
20:33:02 | XavierGr | blame him for what? |
20:33:06 | B4gder | bugs! |
20:33:06 | Zagor | hey! you blocked me from voting! |
20:33:16 | B4gder | whiner! |
20:33:23 | Mikachu | a whiner it's you |
20:33:39 | Mikachu | okay, obscure flash movie reference |
20:33:41 | t0mas | B4gder: all bugs? |
20:33:48 | t0mas | bugs in general (eg. futur bugs too?) |
20:33:52 | t0mas | or just some bugs? ;) |
20:33:54 | B4gder | we focus on the wps included inthe player zip for now |
20:34:13 | t0mas | well... I would vote for you then :P |
20:34:19 | t0mas | you do the makefile stuff |
20:34:53 | B4gder | traitor! |
20:34:58 | B4gder | :-) |
20:35:06 | t0mas | ghehe |
20:35:11 | t0mas | is Cassandra/christi sleeping? |
20:35:18 | B4gder | yes, sleepwalking |
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20:35:26 | t0mas | oh wait |
20:35:28 | t0mas | ghehe |
20:35:32 | t0mas | little delay in the cam ;) |
20:36:28 | XavierGr | which target are gou going to choose for the display tonight? (ad what it will show?) |
20:36:51 | XavierGr | also did the nano managed to stay alive until the morning? |
20:37:07 | B4gder | don't ask me, I slept tight |
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20:37:48 | t0mas | display? target? |
20:37:50 | t0mas | what? |
20:38:25 | XavierGr | yesterday when they went to sleep, they left an iPod nano beside the webcam with the plasma plugin running |
20:38:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think they should show Cube on Player. |
20:38:45 | webguest28 | haha |
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23:40:41 | leftright | Linus, any thoughts on the playlist catalog feature |
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23:43:29 | HCl | ouch |
23:43:31 | * | HCl prods Slasheri |
23:43:43 | HCl | Slasheri: got time to give me in a nutshell the plans for a new runtime db? |
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23:44:41 | HCl | bah :/ |
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23:45:56 | * | HCl goes to sleep, will return tomorrow |
23:46:11 | HCl | i thought of a new game that should be ported to rockbox >.o |
23:46:26 | preglow | what? |
23:46:29 | HCl | i should get more active again anyways, stupid college has been eating too much of my time |
23:46:32 | HCl | vexed |
23:46:33 | HCl | vexed is fun |
23:47:00 | HCl | it's a bit of a cross between sokoban and something tetris like, it's a puzzle game |
23:47:03 | afruff23 | how eaxactly do games get ported to rockbox? Wouldn't some games not work, sicne each player has different controls? |
23:47:22 | HCl | in general we try to map the games to the buttons available |
23:47:25 | B4gder | afruff23: port one and you''l learn! ;-) |
23:47:30 | HCl | sometimes some players simply do not have enough buttons |
23:47:31 | Mikachu | most games don't need more than 5 buttons |
23:47:47 | HCl | for vexed, you don't need more than 4 buttons to play it |
23:47:52 | HCl | left, right, select, and menu :p |
23:47:57 | afruff23 | I amagine the X% could have lots of games with a 5 way joystick and 2 side buttons |
23:48:06 | afruff23 | X5* |
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23:48:15 | webguest28 | Aha, vexed.sf.net :) |
23:48:16 | HCl | i'm still pleased with the rockboy port |
23:48:26 | HCl | who sped it up lately? |
23:48:34 | B4gder | HCl: kkurbjun |
23:48:35 | HCl | i ran it today and it's way better than when i originally ported it |
23:48:37 | HCl | nice :) |
23:48:40 | PhR3aK | yeah tetris for x5 would be cool ;) |
23:48:41 | B4gder | he improved major |
23:48:45 | B4gder | it |
23:48:48 | HCl | :) |
23:48:52 | * | B4gder can't type now either |
23:48:56 | HCl | i'm planning to get back into rockbox development a bit |
23:48:59 | * | Paul_The_Nerd still thinks Rockbox needs Nethack |
23:49:03 | HCl | i've been too busy lately and i really need to get back into it |
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23:49:29 | HCl | i'll start with porting vexed |
23:49:34 | solexx_ | Paul_The_Nerd: yay! |
23:49:34 | webguest28 | wow, supermarioland is way fast |
23:49:46 | webguest28 | it used to crawl |
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23:49:50 | HCl | and then i'll probably see what'll happen with the tagcache |
23:49:51 | HCl | well |
23:50:00 | HCl | mario used to be at somewhat decent speed |
23:50:02 | Moos | HCl: Welcome back ! |
23:50:03 | HCl | but nowadays |
23:50:09 | HCl | it's really good |
23:50:11 | HCl | thanks :p |
23:50:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | solexx_: It'd be difficult to come up with proper controls for it, I imagine. |
23:50:19 | PhR3aK | is it true that rockbox would increase the battery life a bit? |
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23:50:30 | solexx_ | Paul_The_Nerd: that's what I thought, too |
23:50:30 | HCl | PhR3aK: depends on which player |
23:50:36 | PhR3aK | x5 |
23:50:42 | HCl | no idea.. |
23:50:47 | solexx_ | and −− who would've thought that? −− the display is too small |
23:50:48 | * | HCl only has an i140 |
23:50:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | PhR3aK: Well, it's a little hard to tell since it's never yet been run on an X5...\ |
23:50:58 | PhR3aK | yeah sry |
23:51:13 | preglow | btw |
23:51:16 | afruff23 | can someone give me a link to documentation on games for rockbox? |
23:51:21 | afruff23 | I can't find anything |
23:51:26 | PhR3aK | im just too excited about rockbox on the x5 ;) |
23:51:33 | preglow | if you splash() on a remote unit now, does it automatically display on both screens? |
23:51:33 | afruff23 | me too |
23:51:35 | webguest28 | afruff23: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Main/PluginIndex |
23:51:35 | B4gder | afruff23: PluginIndex perhaps |
23:51:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | solexx_: I wouldn't say it's too small. I mean yeah, you wouldn't have the same field of view, but you could let them scroll the screen when necessary. |
23:51:46 | solexx_ | if any iriver had networking hardware... |
23:51:59 | HCl | webguest28: sweet, i hadn't even found that GPL version of vexed yet :P |
23:52:02 | solexx_ | ssh'ing into my iriver to play nethack would be great :) |
23:52:09 | HCl | *was planning to start from scratch but doesn't have to now* xD |
23:52:09 | XavierGr | well ,theoritically this can be achived with USB OTG |
23:52:43 | webguest28 | HCl: And it's even for a limited platform already |
23:52:48 | HCl | webguest28: yupyup |
23:52:58 | HCl | webguest28: i downloaded a version for my phone but it crashes, figures |
23:52:58 | solexx_ | XavierGr: or alternatively, a usb keyboard for nethack |
23:53:03 | HCl | crappy phone runs windows mobile |
23:53:11 | HCl | *never* get a phone with windows on it, is my advice |
23:53:24 | HCl | but vexed seems like a great game for rockbox |
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23:53:35 | PhR3aK | are there screens how rockbox will look like on the x5? is album art possible (like on ipod)? |
23:53:35 | HCl | it's lightweight, doesn't need much cpu, and only needs 4 buttons to work |
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23:53:52 | leftright | brandon, that real time clock support is for pods and H300's onlyI guess ? |
23:53:57 | HCl | anyways |
23:53:58 | HCl | gnight |
23:54:00 | HCl | see you tomorrow |
23:54:10 | afruff23 | where's doom? |
23:54:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | PhR3ak: Basically, anything that's possible on other colour display targets should be possible on it. |
23:54:15 | afruff23 | I thoguht dooom was ported? |
23:54:18 | afruff23 | thought* |
23:54:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Doom's not part of Rockbox yet. |
23:54:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: It's only a patch. |
23:54:31 | * | Paul_The_Nerd points to where it's in the ToDo still |
23:55:29 | PhR3aK | but i saw the rockbox interface on an ipod nano (which has an color screen too) and it doesnt look this colourfull ^^ |
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23:55:35 | PhR3aK | just b/w |
23:55:43 | B4gder | "this" ? |
23:55:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Phr3ak: Also, black and white, or *blue* and white? |
23:56:06 | PhR3aK | no black |
23:56:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Phr3ak: Errr black and blue I meant |
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23:56:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | phr3ak: Anyway, rockbox is a text based software anyway, so you'll have one color of text on another color background (or background image), and the WPS will only be text and a background unless you modify it. |
23:56:44 | PhR3aK | maybe it was an old version i dont know but it seems just black and white |
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23:56:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | phr3ak: Color was supported before there was a Nano version. |
23:57:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | phr3ak: Are you sure the person using it hadn't just picked a white background and black text? |
23:57:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | I use that so it's readable with the backlight off. |
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23:57:41 | PhR3aK | yeah that could be... i just saw it very short |
23:57:47 | afruff23 | doom is not mentioned here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ThingsTodo |
23:58:15 | webguest28 | ReleaseTodo is the page |
23:58:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseTodo |
23:58:41 | afruff23 | I foudn it thanks |
23:58:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Doom can currently be played if you install a patch from the tracker, anyway. |
23:58:56 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has it working just fine on his Nano. |