| 00:00:03 | afruff23 | OK |
| 00:00:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Doom was not a sidescrolling game. |
| 00:00:15 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wonders what part of "Doom" is confusing. |
| 00:00:16 | afruff23 | It's jsut it's ahrd for me to imagine palying doom on anano |
| 00:00:21 | PhR3aK | isn't the processor of the x5 to slow for 3d scenes? |
| 00:00:27 | afruff23 | with so little buttons |
| 00:00:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Phr3ak: Doom ran on a 386 at 20mhz. |
| 00:00:51 | afruff23 | It's just hard fro me to imagine playing doom on a nano?* |
| 00:01:03 | leftright | the web cam appears to be down |
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| 00:01:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Yeah, but why on Earth would we call it "Doom" if it was a sidescrolling game? |
| 00:01:31 | PhR3aK | oh yeah sry... for me it was just hard to imagine |
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| 00:01:41 | Zagor | leftright: yeah it turned midnight so the crappy software now writes to a new directory... /me fix |
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| 00:01:58 | leftright | ah, thanks |
| 00:01:59 | PhR3aK | because the x5 isn't even able to play music and show pictures at the same time... |
| 00:02:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: The Nano's screen actually is more pixels than the X5 if I recall |
| 00:02:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | PhR3aK: The X5 isn't, or the default firmware isn't? ;-) |
| 00:02:20 | afruff23 | that's now what it's ahrd to imagine |
| 00:02:29 | afruff23 | It's because of the number of buttons |
| 00:02:50 | PhR3aK | hm... ok, could be a firmware limitation too ;) |
| 00:02:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Turn left/right, move forward, fire, and open, are the only buttons *necessary* to play Doom. |
| 00:02:57 | centos | how about comitting this one? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2616 would be a cool feature for the dailys and extends funtionality of the wps. |
| 00:03:00 | afruff23 | change weapon? |
| 00:03:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: If you have autoswitch enabled, it's not *necessary* though it is welcome (and that's what the spare button is used for) |
| 00:03:34 | PhR3aK | maybee prees a botton longer, to swich weapon? |
| 00:03:43 | afruff23 | was there jump in doom 1? |
| 00:03:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope |
| 00:03:46 | afruff23 | I forgot |
| 00:04:06 | leftright | LinusN, any thoughts on the playlist catalog patch ? |
| 00:04:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | PhR3ak: There's already a weapon switch button. I was just listing off the bare minimum. Actually, you could even get away without a move forward by hard-coding forward, though that would be awkward to play |
| 00:04:29 | LinusN | leftright: i haven't given it any more thought |
| 00:04:32 | * | amiconn has scary stuff pending... |
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| 00:04:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: "Scary"? |
| 00:04:46 | LinusN | boo |
| 00:04:55 | afruff23 | strafing? |
| 00:04:55 | * | Paul_The_Nerd jumps |
| 00:04:56 | amiconn | Yes. asm-optimised ata writing... |
| 00:05:00 | Bger | :) |
| 00:05:03 | sneakums | sign me up! |
| 00:05:20 | Bger | amiconn any news about the ata timings ? |
| 00:05:26 | davinci | hello, back and still downloading packages :) |
| 00:05:31 | afruff23 | paul, what about strafing? |
| 00:05:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Not necessary. Many people played the original Doom without even knowing that strafing existed. But it's possible on ones with more buttons than an iPod, and probably will be on the ipod if/when the scrollwheel is used for turning |
| 00:06:06 | PhR3aK | hm, maby a silly thought, but could you be able to listen to music while playing? *would be cool* |
| 00:06:22 | PhR3aK | playing games |
| 00:06:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Most games yes... Doom is iffy though |
| 00:07:00 | PhR3aK | sry im german... what means "iffy"? |
| 00:07:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not likely |
| 00:07:12 | PhR3aK | thx |
| 00:07:18 | afruff23 | Wouldn't doom take a lot of space % wise especially for a nano? |
| 00:07:19 | sharpe | isn't actually a word either... |
| 00:07:25 | sharpe | damn |
| 00:07:26 | sharpe | it is. |
| 00:07:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: What... 14mb? |
| 00:07:33 | PhR3aK | ^^ |
| 00:07:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: Wow... It *shouldn't* be a word |
| 00:07:59 | herz42 | lostlogic: I just saw you have closed the task about scrollwheel acceleration in the tracker. But I can't live without it :( |
| 00:08:02 | afruff23 | Oh, that's small. Does it have all the levels? |
| 00:08:04 | sharpe | on a 4gb nano 14 mb is .34% |
| 00:08:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: It uses whatever doom .wad file(s) you already have. |
| 00:08:21 | herz42 | I have just loaded the clean cvs build and the wheel is unusable for me... |
| 00:08:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Doom 2 was ~12.9mb if I recall |
| 00:08:31 | sharpe | i just so happen to legally have all of the wads, so yay me! |
| 00:09:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: I actually own 2 legal copies of each of the doom wads except Doom 1 (I only have one of it... two of final doom though, so it doesn't really matter). They just kept coming with things... like the special edition of Doom 3 on Xbox |
| 00:09:27 | sharpe | heh... yeah... |
| 00:09:31 | PhR3aK | are there any screens of rockbox in action, on a color display? |
| 00:09:34 | sharpe | si |
| 00:09:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | PhR3aK: Have you looked at the WpsGallery wiki page? |
| 00:10:01 | PhR3aK | no... |
| 00:10:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Try there |
| 00:10:06 | sharpe | towards the bottom |
| 00:10:12 | PhR3aK | k, thx |
| 00:10:17 | webguest28 | The /screenshots/ page is a bit outdated |
| 00:10:22 | davinci | wps.abondar.de some screen dumps of h300 |
| 00:10:38 | sharpe | what should i do...? anyone? |
| 00:11:17 | webguest28 | amiconn: Did your commit fix the ATA read bug? |
| 00:11:19 | sharpe | i've got nothing to work on :( |
| 00:11:28 | amiconn | webguest28: yes |
| 00:11:35 | webguest28 | \o/ |
| 00:11:41 | afruff23 | so I have to own a copy of doom to put it on the player? |
| 00:11:49 | lostlogic | herz42: and the new stuff I committed isn't good as well? |
| 00:11:49 | sharpe | legally, yes. |
| 00:12:00 | sharpe | unless you use the shareware wads... |
| 00:12:12 | lostlogic | herz42: I'm not comfortable committing acceleration as an always on the way I had it... too 'personal' |
| 00:12:26 | afruff23 | would the shareware wads be any different |
| 00:12:29 | webguest28 | I believe there are free wads as well |
| 00:12:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: Well, the shareware wad is just the first episode |
| 00:12:47 | sharpe | yeh, you'd only get the first episode 'knee deep in the dead' |
| 00:12:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | afruff23: There's also Freedoom, which is a complete replacement for Doom 2. |
| 00:13:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Curse you for making me edit my personal .diff again. :-P |
| 00:13:35 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: what diff is that? Does it belong in CVS? |
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| 00:13:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: No, it's just my compilation of "patches that I like" that included acceleration. |
| 00:14:21 | herz42 | lostlogic: the wheel reacts too fast - and the first movement is to the wrong direction often |
| 00:14:47 | Bger | nite |
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| 00:14:51 | leftright | Paul, do you have the multifont patch in your build ? |
| 00:14:52 | sharpe | ahah, another idea! |
| 00:15:11 | sharpe | wait, nevermind... |
| 00:15:34 | PhR3aK | why is there already a screen of an x5 interface? is the developement so far? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsGallery/thomasv1.png |
| 00:15:42 | herz42 | lostlogic: did you think about including something like my BUTTON_REPEAT feature? |
| 00:15:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | leftright: I have no interest in the multifont patch. Primarily it's Doom, several other game plugins (Blackjack, Bubbles), the USB goes into Apple OS instead of hardware disk for iPod, and I enabled battery state showing. |
| 00:15:51 | lostlogic | herz42: link me |
| 00:16:01 | sharpe | awww... proposed feature : "One image file WPSes (using tar files)" |
| 00:16:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Phr3ak: You can make WPSes for the X5 using the Simulator |
| 00:16:09 | herz42 | lostlogic: ?? |
| 00:16:11 | lostlogic | oh, I remember |
| 00:16:33 | PhR3aK | ok... thanks man |
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| 00:17:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | PhR3aK: The While Playing Screen is very customizable, and easy to create your own as long as you can create the .bmps you need |
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| 00:17:36 | hubbel | any beta testers for the vmware image? |
| 00:17:49 | herz42 | lostlogic: together with acceleration, that worked fine to make it stop at the end of a list |
| 00:17:56 | PhR3aK | not bad... and is rockbox easy to translate in other languages? |
| 00:18:01 | crashd | hubbel: which vmware image? |
| 00:18:08 | webguest28 | hubbel: I'll give it a shot, url? |
| 00:18:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Phr3ak: You might want to check to see if the language you want isn't already done. |
| 00:18:36 | afruff23 | what is vmware? |
| 00:18:39 | PhR3aK | where can i check this? |
| 00:18:44 | afruff23 | is it differnet from firmware |
| 00:18:54 | crashd | afruff23: it's virtualisation software that lets you run other os' at very near full speed |
| 00:18:57 | lostlogic | herz42: ah, yes, lemme see what I can do with that |
| 00:18:57 | crashd | in a different os |
| 00:19:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Phr3ak: http://www.rockbox.org/lang/ |
| 00:19:03 | crashd | so like, linux under windows, or vice versa |
| 00:19:12 | afruff23 | like virtualPC? |
| 00:19:15 | hubbel | crashd: its a vmware image with debian with rockbox development environment configured and ready to go.. |
| 00:19:17 | crashd | yeah |
| 00:19:21 | crashd | hubbel: ahh, fair dela |
| 00:19:27 | sharpe | or if you want to be cool, linux under windows under linux under qemu. |
| 00:19:44 | crashd | and so on, and so forth |
| 00:19:45 | PhR3aK | great, german is already aviable, man im even more excited about rockbox now :) |
| 00:19:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | hubbel: I'll try it. |
| 00:19:56 | sharpe | i suppose i'll try it too... |
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| 00:20:21 | sharpe | he hath been given a name! |
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| 00:20:23 | herz42 | lostlogic: I have to admit that I didn't integrated it so nicely. Just the functionality is neat. |
| 00:20:26 | hubbel | hum.. it's a 100mb zip.. any suggestions where to upload it? |
| 00:20:42 | sharpe | bittorrent maybe? |
| 00:21:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's not really a "where" :-P |
| 00:21:11 | sharpe | suggestion for downloadage? |
| 00:21:19 | lostlogic | herz42: yo uactually made me find some bugs in what I committed today, I will fix that and probably add repeat. |
| 00:21:22 | crashd | torrent is probably the easiest |
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| 00:21:35 | sharpe | twould probably be faster... |
| 00:21:37 | hubbel | can you share a file with torrent if you're behind NAT ? |
| 00:21:38 | sharpe | too |
| 00:21:41 | sharpe | yes |
| 00:21:46 | sharpe | maybe |
| 00:22:10 | sharpe | i don't know anymore... i just have this comp as the dmz host... |
| 00:22:44 | lostlogic | hmph, lied, not a bug, just minor waste of instructions for _non_ wheel button interrupts. |
| 00:22:50 | bepe86 | "I have four words for ya: I...love...this...firmware ...yessssssss!" ~ Steve Ballmer |
| 00:23:19 | PhR3aK | afruff: got icq? |
| 00:23:39 | x1jmp | what does "crossfeed"? |
| 00:23:44 | Zagor | hubbel: here is a list of free file hosting services: http://www.jdempsey.com/2005/12/08/free-online-file-storagesending/ |
| 00:24:10 | x1jmp | it's in the rockbox sound settings |
| 00:24:14 | PhR3aK | omg its so late, i didnt saw that he's already off :P |
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| 00:26:18 | leftright | x1jmp, http://www.headphone.com/products/faqs/about-headroom-crossfeed/fixing-headphones-with-electronics/ |
| 00:27:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeesh, I remember when I first used Rockbox, a WPS would be like... 10 lines or less... |
| 00:27:29 | x1jmp | thx |
| 00:27:41 | herz42 | lostlogic: do you know what exactly (status & 0x40000000) checks for in the btn irq? |
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| 00:30:00 | hubbel | I'm uploading to lostlogic's server now.. only 2h left :) |
| 00:30:23 | pench | Bagder: why did you leave CategoryFrontpage on ThingsTodo? |
| 00:31:54 | herz42 | lostlogic: as the cursor already moves one line when just contacting the wheel, I asume that old_wheel_value is not reset to -1. If the new_wheel_value is not valid if bit30 is zero, wheel_delta will probably be not zero in the elseif case. |
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| 00:37:13 | preglow | bed time :/ |
| 00:37:15 | preglow | later |
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| 00:40:16 | pench | B4gder: why did you leave CategoryFrontpage on ThingsTodo? |
| 00:40:49 | B4gder | I don't know |
| 00:41:01 | B4gder | I just scrapped a lot of old things and some got left |
| 00:41:06 | pench | Ah |
| 00:41:17 | B4gder | should be removed too of course |
| 00:41:37 | pench | Wondered if you wanted it to be rebuilt or something |
| 00:42:02 | B4gder | I removed all old entries and found that there was none leeft, and then I decided to kill the whole page |
| 00:45:05 | PhR3aK | bye, and thx too Paul_The_Nerd |
| 00:45:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I try to be helpful. :) |
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| 00:45:40 | lostlogic | herz42: I did a bunch of debugging and found that to detect 'end of scroll' is done by getting a bit 30 set interrupt and a bit 30 unset interrupt sequentially with the same position |
| 00:46:07 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: and you are very successful on it |
| 00:46:14 | PhR3aK | youve definive been ;) |
| 00:46:25 | lostlogic | herz42: still working on it more, didn't realize the issues I'd introduced. Also doing your repeat feature. |
| 00:46:28 | PhR3aK | yeah exactly davinci ;) |
| 00:46:38 | PhR3aK | bye |
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| 00:46:59 | herz42 | lostlogic: but is your ipod also scrolling one line (to random direction) when you touch the wheel? |
| 00:47:32 | lostlogic | herz42: hadn't checked, but it doesn't surprise, I'm sure I made a mistake in detecting end of scroll. |
| 00:47:48 | lostlogic | which would cause it to scroll relative to your last touch when you resume touching |
| 00:48:05 | herz42 | yes, that's how it looks |
| 00:48:37 | herz42 | although it's somehow more like random direction :) |
| 00:48:47 | lostlogic | hehe, nod |
| 00:49:52 | * | pench looks at http://www.rockbox.org/download/rockbox-2.5-notes.txt and is surprised by a stray y on a line of its own |
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| 00:50:12 | pench | completely irrelevant of course |
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| 00:56:47 | BHSPitMonkey | hey LinusN |
| 00:56:56 | t0mas | B4gder: coding late ;) |
| 00:57:11 | B4gder | veeery efficient now :-) |
| 00:57:17 | t0mas | lol |
| 00:57:22 | t0mas | you look like it :P |
| 00:57:27 | t0mas | this big brother thing is funny man |
| 00:57:43 | BHSPitMonkey | lol |
| 00:57:45 | t0mas | can't you get Contractor to put webcams in your and Linus' office? |
| 00:58:09 | B4gder | we'll supervise linus from now on, the cam is here and we have no other usee for it :-) |
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| 01:01:18 | t0mas | haha |
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| 01:01:57 | lostlogic | herz42: My code is essentially correct to detect wheel release... but if the last interrupt before release didn't trigger a wheel scroll event it doesn't work. |
| 01:02:02 | lostlogic | bah |
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| 01:05:23 | herz42 | lostlogic: just to follow - if queue is not empty, old_wheel_value is not updated and then wheel_delta becomes != 0 on release? |
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| 01:11:07 | XavierGr | hubbel: Did you finish uploading the file? |
| 01:13:11 | lostlogic | herz42: basically yeah |
| 01:13:30 | lostlogic | herz42: *sigh* I'm going to have to use more statics to solve this I believe :( |
| 01:13:35 | lostlogic | well one omre |
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| 01:14:12 | herz42 | lostlogic: I have just tried to omit the wheel_delta==0 check. What are the drawbacks? |
| 01:15:29 | lostlogic | herz42: just extra ram accesses... that's actually a good point, perhaps doing extra work on other buttons is a better solution than doing less extra work and being more correct on wheel accesses. |
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| 01:18:25 | amiconn | . . . . . |
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| 01:18:55 | muesli__ | for i=0 to 5 print "." ? |
| 01:19:07 | herz42 | lostlogic: I just didn't get why you can't always reset old_wheel_value if bit30==0 |
| 01:19:07 | XavierGr | What are you reading Linus? |
| 01:19:44 | B4gder | pcf50606 data sheet |
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| 01:19:48 | lostlogic | herz42: you can −− just inefficient |
| 01:19:58 | lostlogic | herz42: wastes two memory accesses every button press that isn't a wheel |
| 01:20:06 | lostlogic | which is ofcourse a small percentage of all button accesses |
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| 01:20:09 | XavierGr | it is like a novell to him I guess.... ;p |
| 01:20:35 | lostlogic | XavierGr: read it several times myself |
| 01:20:36 | lostlogic | ;) |
| 01:20:52 | pench | (the butler did it!) |
| 01:21:09 | XavierGr | Then, when are you going to write to us what you learnt? |
| 01:21:18 | XavierGr | (code perhaps?) |
| 01:21:55 | lostlogic | XavierGr: turned out I was reading it for the wrong player at the time |
| 01:22:04 | lostlogic | but I've used it to help me improving the i2c and adc drivers for ipod. |
| 01:22:05 | XavierGr | hahaha |
| 01:22:18 | lostlogic | XavierGr: the h3x0 doesn't use the pcf50606 to charge, I thought it did at the time |
| 01:22:22 | XavierGr | lostlogic what daps do you have? |
| 01:22:24 | lostlogic | apparently the iAudio does |
| 01:22:28 | XavierGr | ipod and H300? |
| 01:22:32 | lostlogic | I have two broken H3x0s and a broken archos player |
| 01:22:36 | lostlogic | and an ipod 5g |
| 01:22:50 | t0mas | two broken H300's? |
| 01:22:57 | XavierGr | 2 broken H300s? Why is that? |
| 01:22:58 | t0mas | why two? and how broken? |
| 01:23:02 | XavierGr | :( |
| 01:23:12 | XavierGr | it has echo here |
| 01:23:13 | lostlogic | because I'm a failure at life. |
| 01:23:29 | t0mas | that breaks H300's? |
| 01:23:32 | XavierGr | power fried or? |
| 01:23:38 | B4gder | that's why he fits among us ;-) |
| 01:23:39 | pench | Good thing I don't own one then. |
| 01:23:48 | * | t0mas keeps his iriver away from his sister :P |
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| 01:23:52 | lostlogic | haha, I just have skills... fried one with a bad power adapter and one with a clumsy soldering hand |
| 01:24:12 | Mikachu | not possible to merge them into one working? |
| 01:24:21 | Mongey | is the devcon still on? |
| 01:24:25 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 01:24:46 | lostlogic | Mikachu: no the fried components are too hard to solder to each other's boards |
| 01:24:54 | Mikachu | too bad.. |
| 01:25:05 | t0mas | send them both to iriver ;) |
| 01:25:16 | t0mas | "Hey, they both stopped working at the same time, is it a virus???" |
| 01:25:17 | * | amiconn is doing stupid things he isn't supposed to do |
| 01:25:21 | t0mas | act like a n00b |
| 01:25:27 | t0mas | maybe they'll replace/fix it |
| 01:25:36 | XavierGr | yeah, I don't know if you get them back though (even if they accept to repair them) |
| 01:25:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Stupid... or advaaaanced? |
| 01:25:55 | lostlogic | t0mas: because all n00bs have 2 broken H3x0s, 1 intl and 1 us that have obviously been taken apart ;) |
| 01:26:01 | amiconn | advanced stupidity... |
| 01:26:15 | t0mas | lostlogic: tell them your friend tried to fix them |
| 01:26:17 | XavierGr | I sent my defective (new) H300. I got it back still broken. I sent it over again and I am still waiting. |
| 01:26:33 | XavierGr | Spent 450euros on a player that I don't have for 2 months |
| 01:26:54 | t0mas | XavierGr: send them a letter... |
| 01:27:05 | t0mas | demand a working player etc |
| 01:27:37 | XavierGr | well I called them and at last the guy I talked said to me that he will send it back. |
| 01:28:02 | XavierGr | Now Let's see of they fixed it.... (he told me they did, but I ma not sure until I test it) |
| 01:28:29 | herz42 | lostlogic: three flaws I have noticed in the charger/usb handling: |
| 01:28:40 | lostlogic | http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox/rockbox-dev-1.rar |
| 01:29:02 | XavierGr | vmware image? |
| 01:29:06 | lostlogic | correct |
| 01:29:11 | herz42 | 1. backlight timeout is not updated after usb unplug -> stays on forever if it's static on when powered |
| 01:29:14 | hubbel | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 01:29:29 | lostlogic | herz42: ah, that_is_ a bug |
| 01:30:07 | lostlogic | herz42: in other news, I think I've made the button stuff do what you basically desire |
| 01:30:10 | herz42 | 2. the debug runtime is not reset for power over usb |
| 01:30:20 | lostlogic | debug runtime? |
| 01:30:21 | pench | hubbel: why not 7zip? |
| 01:30:21 | lostlogic | whadat? |
| 01:30:38 | hubbel | pench: i like rar |
| 01:30:42 | herz42 | yah, some unimportant item in the dev menu |
| 01:31:03 | pench | rar has no full Free implementation :-\ |
| 01:31:12 | pench | And is inferior to 7zip afaik |
| 01:31:18 | lostlogic | herz42: and 3? |
| 01:31:27 | pench | Anyway, downloading as I speak |
| 01:31:55 | B4gder | 7zip is amazingly good in fact |
| 01:32:02 | B4gder | at compressing |
| 01:32:08 | herz42 | 3. with your latest changes, my ipod has switched to pause mode and immediately back occasionally when connected to the charger |
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| 01:33:01 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=dc76eb0a@labb.contactor.se) |
| 01:33:06 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 01:33:19 | | Quit [IDC]Dragon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 01:33:22 | XavierGr | I tried JdGordon's coLinux image but I failed miserably. I can't guide myself there with out a basic GUI to make it see my network connection. I quit my attemp as soon as a realised that there was no cut and paste in the coLinux console |
| 01:33:36 | herz42 | that happened 3 or 4 times now, but eg. not at all in the last two hrs. so it's hard to find out what causes it. Maybe the dock connected bit is not as stable as the external power bit (that I had chacked before). |
| 01:34:08 | lostlogic | herz42: didn't I change to the external power bit? |
| 01:34:44 | herz42 | I think it's the 'dock' bit (the last time I looked at it) |
| 01:35:34 | | Quit Mong (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 01:35:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: I like your server. It took me less time to download the .rar than it did to install VMWare |
| 01:36:05 | pench | no fair |
| 01:36:07 | | Quit lodesi_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 01:36:10 | XavierGr | what? |
| 01:36:15 | herz42 | lostlogic: just checked. It seems to be the correct ext pwr bit now |
| 01:36:20 | pench | ETA 39:08 says wget |
| 01:36:29 | XavierGr | 100mbytes file less time to download that install a program? |
| 01:36:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | pench: Took me about 5 minutes. |
| 01:36:45 | XavierGr | Paul_The_Nerd: I hate you! |
| 01:36:57 | pench | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, I have a small pen^W^Wslow connection |
| 01:37:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 01:37:12 | XavierGr | who told me that he has 100mbit for 10 pounsd? I hate him too! |
| 01:37:50 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: I like my server too, good to get some use from it for the $90USD I pay for it. |
| 01:38:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Is that monthly? |
| 01:38:08 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: yes |
| 01:38:12 | XavierGr | and the bandwidth? |
| 01:38:13 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: root server |
| 01:39:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Be back. VMWare demands I reboot |
| 01:39:43 | | Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") |
| 01:40:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:40:57 | t0mas | oh yes... |
| 01:41:04 | t0mas | that sucks, the vmware setup |
| 01:41:14 | t0mas | it doesn't ask like "reboot now?" yes/no |
| 01:41:21 | pench | Oh, haha |
| 01:41:23 | pench | Hate those |
| 01:41:23 | t0mas | it just states something like "click next to reboot" |
| 01:41:38 | t0mas | and what's the thing you click by default in a wizard? |
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| 01:43:23 | t0mas | wb |
| 01:43:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Now to try this little thing out |
| 01:43:45 | lostlogic | herz42: ok, fixing the button and the first two power things, the last is going to have to wait ;) |
| 01:43:46 | pench | Still 70% left here |
| 01:44:06 | lostlogic | herz42: you're going to have to tell me how the performance of the buttons compares between current CVS and what I'm about to commit. |
| 01:44:21 | | Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 01:44:26 | herz42 | lostlogic: I'll observe it :) |
| 01:44:47 | herz42 | the button behaviour too... |
| 01:45:28 | t0mas | lostlogic: terrible shot: http://tomas.salfischberger.nl/dump/shot.jpg |
| 01:45:57 | t0mas | (No, I'm not bored... productivity isn't < 0) |
| 01:46:27 | lostlogic | I'm itchy, give me a break :-P |
| 01:46:48 | herz42 | t0mas: hehhh he is currently fixing my problems. That's a hard task to do ;) |
| 01:46:48 | lostlogic | herz42: hmm... brief discussoin here at devcon kinda says against the button_repeat change :( :-\ |
| 01:46:59 | lostlogic | it doesn't matter to me personally, so ... |
| 01:47:30 | Jungti1234 | Can I use the linux on the h300? |
| 01:47:32 | herz42 | ok, if only the button handling allows a patch it's ok for me... |
| 01:47:36 | Jungti1234 | It's possible? |
| 01:47:38 | XavierGr | where is [IDC}Dragon, Christi and Zagor? |
| 01:47:40 | t0mas | Jungti1234: ipodlinux |
| 01:47:43 | XavierGr | ^are |
| 01:47:45 | t0mas | see #ipodlinux |
| 01:47:46 | lostlogic | christi is hiding behind a monitor |
| 01:47:50 | lostlogic | and the other two are sleeping |
| 01:47:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, I always forgot that I don't have a floppy on this laptop |
| 01:48:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Also, the "cvs login" step in the page seems to be unnecessary |
| 01:48:36 | Jungti1234 | t0mas: now I use the webirc |
| 01:48:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently the image was built after a login. |
| 01:48:51 | t0mas | Jungti1234: you can still type /join #ipodlinux |
| 01:49:02 | Jungti1234 | no. |
| 01:49:09 | t0mas | no?? |
| 01:49:11 | Jungti1234 | *** Access to channel #ipodlinux is blocked |
| 01:49:18 | t0mas | oh, we should change that... |
| 01:49:23 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 01:49:28 | | Quit x1jmp (Remote closed the connection) |
| 01:49:49 | t0mas | wait a moment, lets see if I can... and ask if I'm allowed to... |
| 01:49:56 | XavierGr | Paul_The_Nerd: What sort or image is it? I mean what distro? |
| 01:50:13 | pench | iriverlinux :-S |
| 01:51:04 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 01:51:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | XavierGr: Debian. |
| 01:51:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, definitely builds faster. |
| 01:51:17 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. bye |
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| 01:51:30 | XavierGr | Does i has a GUI? |
| 01:52:07 | XavierGr | ^it |
| 01:52:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | XavierGr: It doesn't boot into one. I didn't check if there was one installed, but I don't think so |
| 01:52:14 | hubbel | XavierGr: no, its a minimal debian installation.. no gui |
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| 01:52:44 | XavierGr | copy paste between windows OS then? |
| 01:52:49 | pench | You can install one if you like, but for Rockbox dev, I don't see why |
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| 01:53:15 | pench | ah, copy/paste, I do believe the vmware player allows this, yes |
| 01:53:59 | t0mas | B4gder? |
| 01:54:14 | hubbel | pench: copy/paste is supported if you install vmware tools between windows <-> windows .. dont know about linux <-> windows copy/paste |
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| 01:54:33 | t0mas | the cgi irc client... it doesn't allow joining #ipodlinux |
| 01:54:41 | pench | hubbel: ah, okay |
| 01:54:42 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: cygwin is running now :D |
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| 01:54:56 | t0mas | and it's somewhere in a dir I can't access... |
| 01:55:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: Good, good |
| 01:55:18 | t0mas | (/etc/cgiirc/cgiirc.config is the config file) |
| 01:55:26 | t0mas | so you'll have to edit it :) |
| 01:55:28 | XavierGr | Paul_The_Nerd: Can you make a time comparison between cygwin and vmware? |
| 01:55:30 | pench | t0mas: You should probably ask in #ipl before allowing it as well |
| 01:55:39 | t0mas | yeah, I will |
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| 01:55:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | XavierGr: Not yet, as I have several patches on my normal Cygwin build that add significant time. |
| 01:55:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | XavierGr: But I would *guess* that it takes about half the time |
| 01:56:15 | pench | amiconn did such a comparison |
| 01:56:29 | XavierGr | amiconn? |
| 01:56:41 | pench | He's busy, it seems :D |
| 01:56:44 | XavierGr | do you remember the results? |
| 01:56:58 | pench | More or less what Paul said, iirc |
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| 01:57:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, i think it was ~8 minute and ~3 minutes? |
| 01:57:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or was that something else? |
| 01:57:38 | XavierGr | wow |
| 01:57:59 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: where should unpacked files be placed? |
| 01:58:03 | | Quit webguest30 (Client Quit) |
| 01:58:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: The unpacked rockbox source files can go wherever you want them to. The important thing is just to be able to remember where they are, and easily cd to it |
| 01:59:56 | * | Paul_The_Nerd stumbles across a minor problem. |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Can I access files in the virtual drive from windows somehow? |
| 02:00:21 | pench | Paul_The_Nerd: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform says yes |
| 02:00:26 | pench | towards the bottom |
| 02:00:40 | pench | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform#File_sharing specifically |
| 02:00:45 | davinci | cygwin is starting in /usr/bin. Those folders are the ones in the cygwin directory, right? So I have to place unziped files in the "linux" directory, and not just anywhere on hard drive |
| 02:00:57 | hubbel | Paul_The_Nerd: yep.. there's a file share on the image |
| 02:01:20 | hubbel | Paul_The_Nerd: lookup the ip it has.. and use \\ip\user |
| 02:01:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: You can place it anywhere. If you put it in C:\RockSrc\ then in Cygwin you could type "cd c:/RockSrc/" (note the /s not \s) and get to it |
| 02:01:43 | t0mas | does VMware support linux -> windows dir sharing? |
| 02:01:47 | t0mas | or only windows -> windows ? |
| 02:02:16 | Mikachu | nothing should stop you from installing samba in the linux client |
| 02:02:18 | hubbel | t0mas: do you mean linux -> windows as linux as the virtual or host operating system? |
| 02:02:26 | davinci | What means "Go back to C:\Rockbox\ and double click on _RockBox.bat" in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling ? |
| 02:02:29 | t0mas | windows host, linux guest |
| 02:02:36 | t0mas | as that's the system we're putting up now right? |
| 02:02:48 | pench | t0mas: it's just using samba in the guest, nothing vmware related |
| 02:02:54 | davinci | I saw that file only in the DevKit... |
| 02:02:56 | hubbel | t0mas: sure.. if you install vmware tools on linux guest (but it is a little hassle) |
| 02:02:58 | t0mas | yes, I know it's like that now |
| 02:03:00 | t0mas | that's why I asked |
| 02:03:07 | pench | ah |
| 02:03:12 | t0mas | maybe that might be a good idea to install? |
| 02:03:19 | t0mas | no need to lookup the ip then etc... |
| 02:03:20 | pench | The player doesn't allow any of them, I believe |
| 02:03:27 | pench | free player |
| 02:03:31 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 02:03:34 | t0mas | never used the player |
| 02:04:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: That step isn't done |
| 02:05:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: That should just say "Run Cygwin" and you should skip to Configuring Build (if you've already CD to where your source is extracted) |
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| 02:09:46 | t0mas | B4gder? |
| 02:09:52 | t0mas | are you playing with my buildtable? :) |
| 02:09:54 | B4gder | yessir! |
| 02:09:58 | B4gder | I am |
| 02:10:01 | t0mas | ah, I was at the same time |
| 02:10:03 | t0mas | good timing |
| 02:10:08 | B4gder | hehe |
| 02:10:23 | t0mas | you found the server header I added? |
| 02:10:24 | B4gder | I have a new column coming up |
| 02:10:34 | B4gder | t0mas: its already displayed in the showlog script |
| 02:10:38 | t0mas | yes |
| 02:10:41 | t0mas | I saw |
| 02:11:22 | B4gder | check the table now |
| 02:11:26 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd build |
| 02:11:26 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:11:26 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:11:26 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK davinci |
| 02:11:26 | davinci | bash-3.00$ |
| 02:11:38 | t0mas | B4gder: you already added that a few minutes ago... |
| 02:11:50 | t0mas | but it looked awful when clicking |
| 02:11:58 | B4gder | work in progress |
| 02:12:04 | B4gder | I made this with a separate script |
| 02:12:08 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 02:12:17 | B4gder | so when the builds trigger, it overrides my temporary work |
| 02:12:19 | t0mas | well... set a nice background color, and done |
| 02:12:48 | lostlogic | herz42: if you build your own, cvs up and try this button driver ;) |
| 02:12:48 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:12:48 | * | t0mas wonders why lostlogic's server is that slow... |
| 02:12:58 | lostlogic | t0mas: my server is slow? |
| 02:13:06 | t0mas | http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/serv-2006-03-19%2001:02:04.html |
| 02:13:07 | lostlogic | transfer or build |
| 02:13:13 | herz42 | lostlogic: I'll do |
| 02:13:14 | t0mas | I think the build... |
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| 02:13:19 | t0mas | can't see from there |
| 02:13:36 | t0mas | but it has a really lot of bandwidth... |
| 02:13:44 | lostlogic | hmm... lemme check something |
| 02:13:45 | * | pench runs the vm |
| 02:13:47 | B4gder | hm, I could extend this to actually measure build times |
| 02:13:56 | B4gder | per build server I mean |
| 02:14:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ummm |
| 02:14:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Minor problem with the VMWare thing: |
| 02:14:16 | lostlogic | t0mas: because my stupid backup script keeps being hanging |
| 02:14:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Lack of "patch" |
| 02:14:18 | t0mas | yes, shall I output that to the logs? |
| 02:14:23 | t0mas | lostlogic: ok |
| 02:14:24 | lostlogic | I'm going to have to disable it till I get home and have time to fight with it |
| 02:14:31 | t0mas | B4gder: I can print build time per build to the log |
| 02:14:40 | pench | Minor problem with the VMWare thing: It's not accepting keyboard input :-o |
| 02:14:45 | B4gder | t0mas: ah true, that could be neat |
| 02:14:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | hubbel: It seems you forgot to include patch, I think |
| 02:14:57 | B4gder | and I'll put it in the summary somehow |
| 02:15:11 | sharpe | my jaw... pops... a lot... |
| 02:15:45 | t0mas | B4gder: for this to be usefull we need build and transfere time... |
| 02:15:59 | * | pench wonders what on earth is wrong with vmware |
| 02:16:03 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: any ideas what's wrong now? |
| 02:16:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: What problem are you having? |
| 02:16:34 | B4gder | t0mas: if we start with build time it might still show good numbers |
| 02:16:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | pench: Alt+G? |
| 02:16:47 | pench | Paul_The_Nerd: did that |
| 02:16:49 | t0mas | B4gder: build only that is? |
| 02:16:51 | t0mas | or total? |
| 02:16:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | pench: =/ It works for me. |
| 02:17:05 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd build |
| 02:17:05 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:17:05 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:17:12 | B4gder | build only is more interesting to start with I think |
| 02:17:12 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd build |
| 02:17:12 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:17:12 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:17:18 | pench | Yeah, it's strange.. |
| 02:17:36 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd build |
| 02:17:36 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:17:36 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:17:41 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd build |
| 02:17:41 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:17:41 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:17:44 | | Quit Mongey () |
| 02:17:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: You don't need to paste it more than once... |
| 02:18:06 | herz42 | probably he has tried four times ;) |
| 02:18:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: I really don't know about that one. That's outside my familiarity. |
| 02:18:13 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd build |
| 02:18:14 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:18:14 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:18:14 | davinci | bash-3.00$ dirs |
| 02:18:14 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 02:18:14 | davinci | /cygdrive/c/rb/rockbox-daily-20060317/build |
| 02:18:15 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 02:18:15 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:18:16 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 02:18:16 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:18:18 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd ../tools/configure |
| 02:18:20 | davinci | bash: cd: ../tools/configure: Not a directory |
| 02:18:22 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd ../tools |
| 02:18:24 | davinci | bash-3.00$ configure |
| 02:18:26 | davinci | bash: configure: command not found |
| 02:18:28 | davinci | bash-3.00$ dirs |
| 02:18:30 | davinci | /cygdrive/c/rb/rockbox-daily-20060317/tools |
| 02:18:31 | B4gder | pppppllleeeeasseeee |
| 02:18:32 | davinci | bash-3.00$ configure |
| 02:18:34 | davinci | bash: configure: command not found |
| 02:18:34 | pench | Madness... |
| 02:18:35 | sharpe | that's a lot of trys... |
| 02:18:36 | davinci | bash-3.00$ |
| 02:18:38 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd build |
| 02:18:40 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:18:42 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:18:44 | davinci | bash-3.00$ dirs |
| 02:18:44 | herz42 | hehe, that commands don't work on irq... |
| 02:18:46 | davinci | /cygdrive/c/rb/rockbox-daily-20060317/build |
| 02:18:48 | davinci | bash-3.00$ ../tools/configure |
| 02:18:50 | davinci | bash: ../tools/configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 02:18:52 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd ../tools/configure |
| 02:18:53 | sharpe | reminds me of the energizer battery... |
| 02:18:54 | davinci | bash: cd: ../tools/configure: Not a directory |
| 02:18:56 | davinci | bash-3.00$ cd ../tools |
| 02:18:56 | herz42 | s/irq/irc/ |
| 02:18:57 | Mode | "#RockBox +o B4gder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 02:18:58 | davinci | bash-3.00$ configure |
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| 02:19:00 | davinci | bash: configure: command not found |
| 02:19:02 | davinci | bash-3.00$ dirs |
| 02:19:04 | davinci | /cygdrive/c/rb/rockbox-daily-20060317/tools |
| 02:19:06 | davinci | bash-3.00$ configure |
| 02:19:06 | BoD[brb] | HEY |
| 02:19:08 | davinci | bash: configure: command not found |
| 02:19:10 | BoD[brb] | i go to sleep now :) |
| 02:19:10 | davinci | bash-3.00$ |
| 02:19:12 | davinci | SORRY |
| 02:19:14 | Kick | (#rockbox davinci :B4gder) by B4gder!n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder |
| 02:19:14 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 02:19:15 | pench | Paul_The_Nerd: working now after a restart.. strange |
| 02:19:23 | BoD[brb] | Happy hacking rockbox dudes |
| 02:19:23 | | Part clsk |
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| 02:19:37 | BoD[brb] | good "night" :) |
| 02:19:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there any alternative to "patch" that I should be using, or is it just oversite that it's not included? |
| 02:19:51 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: missing |
| 02:19:58 | | Part BoD[brb] ("(and by the way : you rule!!)") |
| 02:20:07 | * | pench apt-get installs patch |
| 02:20:32 | pench | yay Debian |
| 02:20:42 | aliask | What's the deal with the USB power situation on H300? Like can it charge while plugged into USB? Or even better charge while acting as UMS? |
| 02:20:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah, apt-get *install* patch |
| 02:20:52 | hubbel | Paul_The_Nerd: try apt-get install patch |
| 02:20:58 | pench | apt-get moo |
| 02:20:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | hubbel: Just did that. :-P |
| 02:21:15 | davinci | B4gder: sorry, I misunderstood a little bit what my irc program said... |
| 02:22:07 | lostlogic | zzz |
| 02:22:29 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: thank you for your help, I'll try it on my own. |
| 02:22:30 | pench | erp, keyboard issues |
| 02:22:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hrm |
| 02:22:43 | davinci | good night @ all |
| 02:22:45 | pench | How do you change keyboard layout with Debian tools again? |
| 02:22:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently my files were modified 420 seconds in the future |
| 02:23:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | And because of that it won't built |
| 02:23:15 | XavierGr | É see a lot of movement in Devcon ;p |
| 02:23:42 | | Part davinci |
| 02:24:00 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: touch -R . |
| 02:24:25 | t0mas | wooops |
| 02:24:38 | t0mas | this is going to be a long build if you commit something right now |
| 02:27:41 | B4gder | ok, switched to my updated script now as it seems to work |
| 02:27:47 | * | amiconn will go to sleep now |
| 02:27:52 | B4gder | sleeeeep |
| 02:29:15 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 02:29:23 | pench | 2 minutes to build a h120 build on a 1,3ghz laptop |
| 02:29:45 | | Quit amiconn (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") |
| 02:29:50 | pench | (in vmware under windows, that is) |
| 02:30:10 | LinusN | sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep |
| 02:30:14 | XavierGr | goodnight Devcon! |
| 02:30:17 | | Part LinusN |
| 02:30:18 | pench | Like VS.net's GUI? Then kindly stab your eyes with forks. :) |
| 02:31:00 | XavierGr | what will be the goodnight show tonight? |
| 02:31:33 | | Part hubbel |
| 02:32:37 | t0mas | B4gder? |
| 02:32:45 | t0mas | have a new night testing image for the cam? :) |
| 02:33:03 | XavierGr | I think they will leave it just like it is :( |
| 02:33:19 | pench | Uh-oh |
| 02:33:30 | pench | zip not installed in the vmware image |
| 02:33:32 | pench | that's worse |
| 02:34:31 | pench | $ make zip |
| 02:34:45 | pench | xargs: zip: No such file or directory |
| 02:34:49 | XavierGr | fade to black@ |
| 02:36:28 | * | t0mas stalks B4gder to get a better night image tomorrow :P |
| 02:36:41 | BHSPitLappy | oh noes |
| 02:38:31 | pench | You don't have to find your IP to use the vmware samba share - \\debian works |
| 02:38:56 | XavierGr | well goodnight all! |
| 02:39:03 | XavierGr | and happy Sunday! |
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| 02:48:59 | pench | hubbel: (for the logs) You might want to add to your instructions, that to change keymap, run (as root) dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 02:51:11 | pench | hubbel: and maybe put stuff like that in /etc/motd so it's showed on login |
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| 03:00 |
| 03:06:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there some way to scroll up in a terminal like that? |
| 03:08:21 | pench | shift-pageup |
| 03:08:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I swear I tried that |
| 03:08:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | =/ |
| 03:10:14 | pench | Know the feeling |
| 03:10:39 | pench | "That's what I just did... but now it works.." |
| 03:10:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 03:10:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 03:10:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah well, that solves all my problems then |
| 03:11:22 | pench | Nice, compiling z80.c really is amazingly taxing |
| 03:11:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've apt-get zip and patch, I've moved over my patches and extra source files, and my basic scripts, and it's all good. |
| 03:11:51 | pench | My whoe system just went *thump* when it hit z80.c |
| 03:12:00 | pench | a few minutes later, and everything's back to normal |
| 03:12:16 | pench | Eh, half a minute more like |
| 03:12:18 | pench | if that |
| 03:12:24 | pench | it *felt* like a few minutes |
| 03:13:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 03:13:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | z80.c is pretty hefty |
| 03:13:32 | pench | figures |
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| 03:17:44 | sharpe | hey everyone... |
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| 03:28:02 | BHSPitLappy | how's the .wps going |
| 03:28:17 | sharpe | huh? |
| 03:29:04 | BHSPitLappy | wasn't that you |
| 03:29:12 | sharpe | doing what? |
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| 03:29:42 | BHSPitLappy | the zip viewer |
| 03:29:49 | sharpe | yeah that was me... |
| 03:30:27 | sharpe | the zip viewer's okay, haven't worked on it at all since... it's pretty much all i can do with it already, and the wps zip package idea failed |
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| 03:33:43 | sharpe | i'm somewhat out of stuff to do right now... |
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| 03:57:44 | afruff23 | why is the webcam covered? |
| 03:58:04 | sharpe | they're doing stuff... |
| 03:58:17 | afruff23 | what exactly? |
| 03:58:23 | afruff23 | aren't they asleep |
| 03:58:23 | sharpe | couldn't tell you |
| 03:58:29 | sharpe | that's what i would think |
| 03:58:38 | afruff23 | I HOPE they're asleep |
| 04:00 |
| 04:01:46 | pench | That's what they want us to think. |
| 04:02:39 | sharpe | yeah. in actuality, they're have a wild party... |
| 04:05:21 | sharpe | and they're not in sweden either. they're in antartica, living it up with those penguins. |
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| 04:36:24 | mnhnhyouh | hey all |
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| 04:38:01 | mnhnhyouh | is there anybody here who can help me get the build environment up and running? |
| 04:38:47 | sharpe | um... i may not be much of help, but i can try... |
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| 04:39:32 | mnhnhyouh | i have the cygwin environment installed, and have executed the first two instructions |
| 04:39:44 | mnhnhyouh | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 04:39:51 | mnhnhyouh | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox-devel |
| 04:40:02 | mnhnhyouh | and that seemed to work, with the folders appearing with their contents |
| 04:40:04 | afruff23 | is the bootloader for the X5 working yet? |
| 04:40:22 | sharpe | pretty sure it's been in the same state since last time afruff23... |
| 04:40:22 | mnhnhyouh | now it is asking me to |
| 04:40:23 | mnhnhyouh | Make your way back to C:\Rockbox\, open the folder called Home and the folder called guest within that. Move your newly downloaded file into this folder (C:\Rockbox\home\guest) |
| 04:40:38 | sharpe | hmm.... |
| 04:40:44 | mnhnhyouh | but I dont have that folder, nor is there a file on my pc called _RockBox. bat |
| 04:40:46 | sharpe | i don't recall doing that. |
| 04:40:53 | mnhnhyouh | i seem to have missed a step? |
| 04:40:55 | sharpe | what instructions are you following? |
| 04:41:12 | mnhnhyouh | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 04:42:11 | sharpe | here, these may work better... |
| 04:42:12 | sharpe | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 04:42:48 | sharpe | i guess you could just skip to number two |
| 04:43:29 | sharpe | don't think you'll have to do anything with # 4 |
| 04:46:24 | mnhnhyouh | hmmm, looking. |
| 04:46:40 | sharpe | suppose just follow 2, 3, and 5 i guess... |
| 04:46:49 | afruff23 | is there any advantages to MTP over UMS? |
| 04:47:01 | afruff23 | are* |
| 04:47:21 | sharpe | i couldn't tell you... |
| 04:54:21 | pench | about the same as using a butterknife compared to a chainsaw for cutting down trees, I would imagine |
| 04:54:39 | mnhnhyouh | cheers, making away :) |
| 04:55:03 | sharpe | i helped? |
| 04:55:09 | mnhnhyouh | yep, thanks a lot. |
| 04:55:24 | sharpe | heh, you're welcome... |
| 04:55:28 | afruff23 | pench where you talking about my psot |
| 04:55:29 | mnhnhyouh | there is still lots for me to learn so i can add patches, but we are progressing :) |
| 04:55:29 | sharpe | for once i guess i help someone |
| 04:55:30 | afruff23 | post* |
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| 04:56:36 | pench | afruff23: yeah, I think (without knowing much about it) that it's just a limited, worthless protocol designed to inconvenience users in the name of "DRM" |
| 04:57:26 | sharpe | hmm... suddenly glad i didn't go to sleep a while ago. |
| 04:57:31 | mnhnhyouh | doesnt mtp also work with non-drm infected files as well? it is a way for you to have programs organise and transfer stuff for you. ums, i think, means drag and drop |
| 04:57:57 | pench | mnhnhyouh: thing is, the programs could do that with ums as well |
| 04:57:59 | afruff23 | do WPS support custom ID3V2 fields |
| 04:58:06 | sharpe | nay |
| 04:58:14 | pench | afruff23: no, there's a patch to do it though |
| 04:58:29 | pench | MTP doesn't allow something that isn't possible with ums, afaik |
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| 04:58:48 | mnhnhyouh | @pench, I think you are correct |
| 04:58:49 | pench | But yeah, you *NEED* programs to handle MTP devices |
| 04:58:58 | afruff23 | The only thing it does better IMO is it streamlines the play count and rating transferring better |
| 04:59:13 | afruff23 | talking about MTP |
| 04:59:23 | pench | That's not by virtue of the protocol though. That's just because of the programs |
| 04:59:29 | afruff23 | yeah |
| 04:59:48 | afruff23 | They should enfore a standard palycount and rating tag for files |
| 04:59:59 | afruff23 | enforce* |
| 05:00 |
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| 05:01:41 | pench | id3 already have both |
| 05:01:49 | afruff23 | yeah I know |
| 05:01:55 | afruff23 | but not many adhererto it |
| 05:02:01 | pench | PCNT and POPM |
| 05:02:10 | afruff23 | POPM? |
| 05:02:18 | afruff23 | popularity meter |
| 05:02:19 | pench | popularimeter |
| 05:02:29 | pench | is in fact the official name |
| 05:02:34 | afruff23 | that's different from rating |
| 05:02:44 | afruff23 | there's another standard one |
| 05:03:13 | ashridah | okay, correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't things like u_int32_t and whatnot supposed to be part of POSIX or some other common standard? |
| 05:03:24 | ashridah | i can't seem to find their definition in solaris :/ |
| 05:03:26 | afruff23 | popularimeter takes into account many things such as playcount, last time played, etc. |
| 05:03:35 | pench | No. |
| 05:03:36 | sharpe | aren't they there for the simulator compatibility or something...? |
| 05:03:55 | pench | afruff23: it does not. It contains an optional playcount, and an email-address |
| 05:04:10 | pench | And there's, afaics, no rating tag. |
| 05:04:16 | pench | except this one |
| 05:05:17 | pench | Look it up yourself: http://www.rockbox.org/docs/id3v2.4.0-frames.txt |
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| 05:15:22 | mnhnhyouh | thanks again sharpe :) |
| 05:15:26 | | Part mnhnhyouh |
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| 05:19:32 | sharpe | midkay! |
| 05:19:38 | midkay | sharpe!! :) |
| 05:19:45 | sharpe | i helped someone! |
| 05:20:17 | midkay | omfg, how?! |
| 05:22:53 | sharpe | pointed him in the direction of setting up a dev enviornment |
| 05:23:47 | midkay | nice job! :) |
| 05:23:53 | sharpe | thanks! |
| 05:25:31 | sharpe | http://www.airtoons.com/toons.php?toon=79 |
| 05:26:08 | sharpe | i'm like really bored. |
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| 05:32:43 | midkay | sharpe, work on the wps package reader if you're bored. :) |
| 05:32:53 | midkay | and. haha at that link. |
| 05:33:05 | sharpe | lol |
| 05:33:19 | sharpe | i just recorded ten minutes of me laughing... |
| 05:33:25 | sharpe | i'm very productive. |
| 05:34:03 | midkay | wtf. |
| 05:34:04 | midkay | :) |
| 05:34:14 | sharpe | they were funny images... |
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| 05:34:52 | sharpe | i sound differently recorded... |
| 05:34:59 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:35:20 | sharpe | even my laugh does :\ |
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| 05:40:45 | midkay | is it like. he he he he he. |
| 05:41:28 | afruff23 | look at this MTP zealot |
| 05:41:29 | afruff23 | http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?p=71837#post71837 |
| 05:41:36 | afruff23 | go a page back |
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| 05:43:44 | sharpe | it's more like, a funny laugh... |
| 05:46:01 | midkay | afruff23, what? |
| 05:46:49 | BHSPitLappy | lol http://www.airtoons.com/toons.php?toon=71 |
| 06:00 |
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| 06:34:01 | [IDC]Dragon | hehe, see that red dot on the cam? |
| 06:34:26 | BHSPitLappy | indeed |
| 06:34:33 | BHSPitLappy | it brightens. |
| 06:34:40 | [IDC]Dragon | it's my mouse |
| 06:34:41 | BHSPitLappy | it darkens. |
| 06:34:54 | BHSPitLappy | flip on the infrared cam :D |
| 06:35:18 | [IDC]Dragon | moooaarrningg! |
| 06:35:27 | BHSPitLappy | actually all you need is an IR beam pointed at you... grab the remote and shine a pulse function on your face! |
| 06:36:16 | [IDC]Dragon | that's an RC |
| 06:36:57 | [IDC]Dragon | not very bright |
| 06:36:58 | BHSPitLappy | hmm? |
| 06:37:36 | BHSPitLappy | find a way to bathe the office in infrared light |
| 06:37:45 | [IDC]Dragon | it worked for one frame only |
| 06:38:04 | * | BHSPitLappy missed it then |
| 06:38:12 | [IDC]Dragon | no, I'm glad the cam is so insensitive |
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| 06:38:26 | [IDC]Dragon | so I can hide in darkness |
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| 06:38:43 | BHSPitLappy | set the update time to .03s or something |
| 06:39:20 | afruff23 | did you guys see that link I psoted. The zealot is "Zeus's Uncle". He later sent me a PM saying I was biased and did not understand the protcols. LOL |
| 06:39:27 | afruff23 | posted* |
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| 06:42:34 | afruff23 | protocols of UMS and MTP* |
| 06:44:18 | afruff23 | rockbox developers! a SNIPER is aiming at you guys with a laser beam! DUCK!!! |
| 06:45:02 | * | BHSPitLappy ducks |
| 06:45:50 | JdGordon | hey all.. im back from w/e away.. how was devconf? |
| 06:48:58 | BHSPitLappy | there was an accident |
| 06:49:11 | JdGordon | what sort of accident? |
| 06:49:14 | BHSPitLappy | only [IDC]Dragon is alive, and you can only tell by his blinking red nametag |
| 06:49:25 | JdGordon | :) |
| 06:49:32 | afruff23 | somebody tripped the circuit |
| 06:49:44 | BHSPitLappy | all the archos bricks rebelled |
| 06:49:46 | BHSPitLappy | it was horrible |
| 06:49:49 | afruff23 | that''s an LED provding light in the corner |
| 06:49:54 | BHSPitLappy | and we all had front row seats to the carnage |
| 06:49:56 | afruff23 | or LCD |
| 06:50:04 | BHSPitLappy | LED |
| 06:50:29 | JdGordon | LED??? all that light? |
| 06:50:36 | JdGordon | a brightass mouse or something? |
| 06:50:41 | afruff23 | LEDs or bright |
| 06:50:44 | afruff23 | are* |
| 06:50:53 | BHSPitLappy | JdGordon: he doesn't mean the blueness over there |
| 06:51:09 | afruff23 | no, I do |
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| 06:51:34 | afruff23 | the red light is probably an LED too |
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| 06:51:57 | sharpe | last remnants of life at devcon. |
| 06:56:08 | sharpe | well |
| 06:56:16 | sharpe | i think i'm going to go to sleep |
| 06:56:32 | sharpe | g'night alive people. |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:12 | [IDC]Dragon | 'night |
| 07:01:10 | afruff23 | what's the patch for adding custom ID3 tag support to the WPS? |
| 07:01:37 | afruff23 | as in non-standard ID3 tags |
| 07:01:51 | afruff23 | Id3 v2 |
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| 07:17:06 | JdGordon | is it possible to send an attachment with unix's mail program? |
| 07:19:19 | Febs | Can anyone tell me what the volume scale is on iPod platforms? (minimum, maximum) |
| 07:26:10 | JdGordon | any1 know how to scroll up/down in screen? |
| 07:26:52 | Febs | ?? |
| 07:27:41 | JdGordon | dw |
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| 07:28:50 | LinusN | uuuuh, i'm too old for this....... |
| 07:29:39 | JdGordon | hey LinusN |
| 07:29:43 | JdGordon | how was devcon? |
| 07:31:06 | Febs | LinusN sounds like a man in need of a strong cup of coffee. |
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| 07:34:23 | B4gder | was? is! |
| 07:34:39 | B4gder | the cam is mighty dark but we are here |
| 07:35:51 | Febs | Apparently many years of staring at CRTs in the dark has given RB developers cat-like vision. |
| 07:35:58 | JdGordon | anything productive happen at devcon? |
| 07:36:21 | B4gder | quite a lot actually |
| 07:36:43 | JdGordon | is some1 gonna let the rest of the community in on the secrets? |
| 07:37:36 | B4gder | I'm sure we'll make a summary after today |
| 07:37:56 | Febs | http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=415177&postcount=105 |
| 07:38:03 | B4gder | the ReleaseTodo from yday is one result |
| 07:38:20 | JdGordon | saw that.. looks good |
| 07:38:25 | JdGordon | :( no alarm on the h300 tho |
| 07:40:15 | Febs | Is the parametric EQ available on all platforms? |
| 07:40:21 | B4gder | yes |
| 07:40:25 | B4gder | all swcodecs |
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| 07:40:40 | Febs | But not archos? |
| 07:40:47 | B4gder | correct |
| 07:41:15 | Febs | Thanks. |
| 07:41:25 | * | tayeb wonders how useful album art is in 4 greys |
| 07:41:32 | * | Febs goes back to working on chapter 4.1 of the manual. |
| 07:41:38 | * | JdGordon wonders how usefull AA is full stop! |
| 07:41:54 | B4gder | AA is eye candy big time |
| 07:42:00 | tayeb | well, if you have lots of screen realestate, it can't harm |
| 07:42:08 | JdGordon | but we dont... |
| 07:42:20 | tayeb | (anything larger than h120 is lots, if you ask me) |
| 07:42:25 | JdGordon | well.. we sort of do |
| 07:42:27 | tayeb | h1x0 |
| 07:42:47 | kkurbjun | linusn: is there a sequence of commands to tell the H300 lcd controller that the data coming to it is in a column rather then a row? |
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| 07:43:42 | tayeb | (anyone watching the Formula1 today might be interested in this little app: http://www.netsplit.com/blog/tech/live-f1.html) |
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| 07:45:13 | JdGordon | f1 in malaysia this week ye? |
| 07:45:20 | JdGordon | or was that last week? |
| 07:45:30 | tayeb | This week |
| 07:46:01 | tayeb | in fact, coming up real soon now |
| 07:48:46 | tayeb | Man it's dark at contactor |
| 07:48:48 | LinusN | kkurbjun: well, you can tell the lcd controller how the GRAM is orientated, end you can update it by column or by row |
| 07:48:52 | tayeb | oh, not anymore |
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| 07:50:18 | kkurbjun | ok, thanks, I was more curious then anything right now, I was just coming up with ideas to speed up doom |
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| 07:54:02 | LinusN | kkurbjun: well, you won't be able to control the lcd driver on that level |
| 07:54:18 | tayeb | Man, there's a H100 optimized rockbox.. have they not learnt? |
| 07:54:55 | kkurbjun | Linusn: why is that? |
| 07:55:23 | kkurbjun | have you looked at what I'm doing in the i_video.c for in the latest code? |
| 07:56:46 | LinusN | kkurbjun: because the driver api doesn't allow you |
| 07:57:13 | tayeb | "InfernoGuy: I don't have any problems with freezing up or crash of my player. Could you describe when your player freezes or crashes. Rockbox is still under development and not official released. I don't think the problems are related to my build." |
| 07:57:19 | tayeb | someone clue this guy in, fast |
| 07:57:25 | kkurbjun | I can't just write directly to the lcd's address? |
| 07:58:11 | LinusN | kkurbjun: you *can* but you shouldn't |
| 07:58:41 | LinusN | then you would have to have special cases for each and every lcd controller |
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| 08:00:19 | LinusN | for example, the x5 lcd driver is very special, and we don't want to duplicate that code in doom |
| 08:00:19 | kkurbjun | linusn, yeah, I know but the general case stuff is already in there, I was thinking more along the lines of an asm routine for the drawing which is platform specific anyway |
| 08:00:40 | LinusN | the drawing in the frae buffer? |
| 08:00:42 | LinusN | frame |
| 08:01:32 | kkurbjun | I see, right now I'm already writing directly to the lcd address for the h300, the code is in i_video.c, I should try a time demo without it and see what the difference is sometime |
| 08:02:03 | kkurbjun | not I should say rendering rather then drawing |
| 08:02:12 | kkurbjun | rendering the doom display |
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| 08:04:00 | kkurbjun | either way though it's not an issue yet as there's still some other features that I want to get in to the doom code before I'm considering or get to any heavy optimizations |
| 08:04:48 | afruff23 | does this mean the X5 will never have a doom port? |
| 08:04:55 | LinusN | no |
| 08:05:38 | afruff23 | can somebody give me links to ABX tests of mp3 and wma at 128kbps or higher? |
| 08:05:45 | kkurbjun | afruff23, there is general code in the doom port that will work for any color platform off the bat |
| 08:05:47 | afruff23 | ABX test results* |
| 08:05:57 | afruff23 | ok thanks |
| 08:09:44 | tayeb | Now make a grayscalelib version |
| 08:13:25 | Febs | Damn it. Somehow I managed to lose all of the changes I just wrote for the manual. |
| 08:15:31 | Febs | afruff23, look here for listening tests: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Listening_Tests |
| 08:17:19 | afruff23 | I did |
| 08:17:28 | afruff23 | that doesn't compare to other formats though |
| 08:18:02 | afruff23 | I want a comparison of mp3 to wma |
| 08:18:08 | afruff23 | not professional wma either |
| 08:18:24 | afruff23 | never mind |
| 08:19:48 | Febs | Did you see the 'multiformat tests' section at the bottom of the page? And the links to 'external tets'? |
| 08:21:08 | Febs | s/tets/tests |
| 08:21:28 | afruff23 | yea I jsut noticed that |
| 08:21:34 | afruff23 | hence nvm |
| 08:21:52 | JdGordon | oh, has the quick screen been fixed again after it was fixed on friday? |
| 08:22:25 | JdGordon | ..or thursday or whenever it was... |
| 08:23:45 | JdGordon | .. or even last sunday! |
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| 08:50:58 | amiconn | Good morning :) |
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| 08:54:42 | afruff23 | Any progress on the X5 bootloader? |
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| 09:13:43 | Febs | Grrr. What I am doing wrong? I am trying to make a patch using this command: diff -u main-old.tex main.tex > patch |
| 09:14:00 | Febs | main-old.tex is the original file, main.tex is the new file. They're in the same directory. |
| 09:14:39 | ashridah | what's happening? |
| 09:14:52 | * | HCl yawns |
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| 09:15:07 | HCl | bbl |
| 09:15:19 | Febs | The output file seems to contain the entire original file, without the change I made. |
| 09:15:35 | ashridah | newline type differences? |
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| 09:17:57 | Febs | That was it. |
| 09:18:08 | * | Febs slaps himself on the head. |
| 09:20:18 | * | B4gder offers Febs the borrow the #rockbox head slapper device |
| 09:20:42 | Febs | LOL. OK, now that I have some clue what I'm doing, what's the protocol for changes to the manual. Should I just upload the diff files to the patch tracker? |
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| 09:21:07 | B4gder | Febs: yes please, if you're not talking to tucoz directly |
| 09:21:54 | Acksaw | tired dragon? |
| 09:22:25 | Febs | OK. That's what I'll do. The patch I just did was more of a test run than anything else, but now that I have Cygwin running and have at least started to learn the TeX format, I can start to help out a bit more. |
| 09:22:36 | B4gder | nice |
| 09:22:53 | B4gder | I'll setup an automated manual build soonish |
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| 09:24:27 | Acksaw | nice to see B4gder cleaning up LOL! |
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| 09:24:47 | afruff23 | why are you guys so happy? |
| 09:25:51 | [IDC]Dragon | are we? |
| 09:26:05 | [IDC]Dragon | zombie alert! |
| 09:26:13 | [IDC]Dragon | 2 more appeared |
| 09:26:22 | Cassandra | Happiness is mandatory. Trust the Rockbox dev team. |
| 09:27:24 | * | lostlogic grunts |
| 09:27:53 | Acksaw | wb |
| 09:28:45 | * | BHSPitLappy snorts |
| 09:28:51 | afruff23 | I saw linus smile when he was standing next to someone as if something big was accomplished |
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| 09:29:18 | BHSPitLappy | hola Zagor |
| 09:29:25 | Zagor | hi |
| 09:30:14 | afruff23 | zagor can you tell us about any unplublished updates to the development of the X5 rockbox? |
| 09:31:13 | Zagor | well, not really. it's progressing, but I have no specific details. |
| 09:31:56 | Zagor | as you can see from the release plan, it won't be officially supported this coming 3.0 but I gather we'll have it done well before 3.1 |
| 09:32:36 | afruff23 | Yeah I saw that page. Thankflly that ends around my warranty expiration :-) |
| 09:32:43 | Zagor | hehe |
| 09:33:30 | afruff23 | everyone's gone! |
| 09:33:33 | BHSPitLappy | eek |
| 09:33:35 | afruff23 | breakfast? |
| 09:34:21 | Zagor | we went to check on the weather. the nice sunny morning suddenly changed into a snow storm. |
| 09:34:27 | BHSPitLappy | wb, lone hero |
| 09:34:35 | BHSPitLappy | nice |
| 09:36:53 | Febs | Cassandra, would you agree with me that for purposes of the manual, the parametric EQ should be in the "advanced chapter"? |
| 09:37:49 | Febs | "advanced chapter"/"advanced topics" chapter |
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| 09:41:00 | Zagor | here's a new little feature to play with this morning... |
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| 09:45:12 | tucoz | Febs, still around? Shouldn't that at least be mentioned where the Menus are talked about? |
| 09:45:18 | tucoz | the EQ that is |
| 09:45:46 | tucoz | and a more detailed discussion (Q etc) some other place |
| 09:46:29 | afruff23 | have you guys at the DevCon used the newest Cowon firmware for the X5? |
| 09:46:33 | afruff23 | 2.10 Final |
| 09:46:45 | afruff23 | which is the same as 2.10 beta 8 korean |
| 09:49:04 | BHSPitLappy | good action still |
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| 09:50:14 | tucoz | Is BUTTON_OFF Stop on the recorder? |
| 09:50:18 | Zagor | afruff23: we generally don't care very much about the original firmwares |
| 09:50:26 | Zagor | tucoz: yes |
| 09:50:29 | afruff23 | I know |
| 09:50:30 | tucoz | thanks |
| 09:50:37 | Bger | morning :) |
| 09:50:44 | tucoz | BUTTON_ON then? |
| 09:51:05 | afruff23 | I just want you guys to amke sure that the rockbox firmware will not act badly to the beta firmwares from Cowon |
| 09:51:06 | Zagor | it's used for browse/wps swapping, and as shiftkey for pgup/pgdn |
| 09:51:21 | JdGordon | "Keymappings for applications to be based upon platform |
| 09:51:22 | JdGordon | independent functions (eg next item, last item, up in heirarchy etc.) |
| 09:51:22 | JdGordon | which are defined in a single platform specific file. No #ifdef KEYPAD_* |
| 09:51:22 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK JdGordon |
| 09:51:22 | JdGordon | statements to remain." AWESOME :D |
| 09:51:54 | Zagor | JdGordon: yeah, if we manage to pull that off it will mean a lot less mess in the code. |
| 09:54:36 | JdGordon | is that not gonna be touched untill after release? or if its worked on it could make it in before the freeze? |
| 09:56:01 | Zagor | JdGordon: not likely |
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| 09:58:23 | lostlogic | afruff23: it generally doesn't matter to rockbox what versoin of the retailos the player has... the exception to this is that the H3x0 bootloader doesn't like to work correctly on US versions of the H3x0 firmware. |
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| 10:00:34 | tucoz | Party Mode. Yiehaa |
| 10:00:58 | tucoz | Just what I needed :-) |
| 10:01:25 | Zagor | :-) |
| 10:04:12 | afruff23 | what is it exactly? |
| 10:05:17 | Zagor | afruff23: it's a mode that disables all the functions that interrupt playback. i.e. next, prev, stop, pause and play. |
| 10:05:32 | Zagor | instead, when you play a file it is added last to the playlist |
| 10:06:23 | Zagor | the idea is that you can then leave the player unattended at parties without having people change or inadvertedly stop the music |
| 10:06:52 | [IDC]Dragon | then you'll need a password lock |
| 10:07:28 | Zagor | nah, it's not that kind of a lock. |
| 10:10:12 | afruff23 | sorta like party mode for mediamonkey |
| 10:11:08 | afruff23 | but how would you unlock it? |
| 10:11:18 | afruff23 | combination of buttons? |
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| 10:15:14 | safetydan | afruff23, I assum you'd just go in to the menu and disable it |
| 10:15:17 | safetydan | assume even |
| 10:15:21 | Zagor | safetydan: exactly |
| 10:16:03 | Bger | JdGordon where are you reading this ? |
| 10:16:15 | tucoz | Off topic, does anyone know howto make flash not steal keyboard focus when the mouse pointer moves over a flash item? |
| 10:16:30 | JdGordon | Bger: where as in location? or which monitor? or ..? |
| 10:16:31 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:16:31 | * | [IDC]Dragon learns the wav codec dance |
| 10:16:39 | midkay | someone should add custom x,y text positioning to the WPS.. e.g. %a|x|y| :) shouldn't be very hard.. |
| 10:16:41 | Bger | location :) |
| 10:16:52 | JdGordon | home of the commonwealth games :p |
| 10:17:18 | tucoz | [IDC]Dragon, is wav new for the MAS targets? |
| 10:17:20 | B4gder | midkay: we want the full viewport concept |
| 10:17:24 | * | JdGordon couldnt give a stuff about the games, btw |
| 10:17:27 | Bger | 10:51AM <JdGordon> "Keymappings for applications to be based upon platform |
| 10:17:31 | midkay | B4gder, what exactly? |
| 10:17:44 | midkay | B4gder, how would viewport relate to x,y alignment |
| 10:17:46 | midkay | +? |
| 10:17:57 | B4gder | midkay: defining "boxes" to a specific position |
| 10:18:03 | Febs | tucoz, regarding the EQ, yes. My thought was to put a brief description in chapter 4 where the other sound settings are discussed, but to keep the details on using the EQ in the "advanced topics" section. |
| 10:18:17 | B4gder | and have regular wps stuff like text etc within such boxes |
| 10:18:21 | midkay | B4gder, what about just alignment sans endx/endy coordinates? .. it'd be nice until viewports are done.. |
| 10:18:23 | JdGordon | Bger: ye? |
| 10:18:35 | B4gder | midkay: no, it would not be good |
| 10:18:36 | tucoz | Febs, sure. I agree :) As long as it gets in the manual I am happy. :-) |
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| 10:18:43 | midkay | B4gder, ah, makes sense. ;) |
| 10:18:57 | Bger | JdGordon which location are you reading this at ? |
| 10:19:08 | [IDC]Dragon | tucoz: yes |
| 10:19:15 | JdGordon | OOHH.... now i get ya.. the dev mailing list |
| 10:19:25 | JdGordon | haha... bloodye nglish aye? |
| 10:19:29 | Febs | tucoz, are you going to be around later in the day? I need to get some sleep (4:18 AM here) but now that I have Cygwin running and some understanding of Tex, patching, etc., I would to chat some more about the manual. |
| 10:19:46 | midkay | [IDC]Dragon, wav is working on the archos? |
| 10:20:02 | tucoz | Febs, btw, there will be added some options later, like button macros, and some other target specific options |
| 10:20:29 | tucoz | Febs, I'll be around. I'll log out now, but check the logs now and then to see if you are around |
| 10:20:30 | midkay | [IDC]Dragon, we demand an on-camera demonstration :) |
| 10:20:46 | Febs | Sounds good. Goodnight all. |
| 10:20:50 | tucoz | Night |
| 10:20:52 | midkay | night Febs |
| 10:21:38 | tucoz | [IDC]Dragon, cool. Multi-codec is true for the old MAS'es as well then :-) |
| 10:22:05 | tucoz | or maybe they already were (mp2,mp3 ?) |
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| 10:29:37 | amiconn | yay! :-) |
| 10:29:53 | * | amiconn seems to have fixed the nasty ata write bug |
| 10:30:09 | midkay | amiconn, on-camera cheeer!!! |
| 10:30:12 | * | amiconn is going to commit that soon. |
| 10:31:48 | safetydan | Looks like I'll need to redo my file copy benchmarks soon |
| 10:31:58 | Zagor | meeting time |
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| 10:35:50 | JdGordon | oh, its only sunday for u ppl isnt it?? is the conf still going? or was uit just yesterday? |
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| 10:37:54 | paulheu | Hi there.. Need some help with fonts |
| 10:43:36 | safetydan | JdGordon, yeah it's still Sunday for us Euro's |
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| 10:43:56 | Jungti1234 | yahoo.. |
| 10:44:49 | JdGordon | mmm.. party mode sounds good |
| 10:44:56 | Jungti1234 | I completed Rockbox wikipedia in Korean translation. |
| 10:44:58 | Jungti1234 | http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox |
| 10:45:57 | Jungti1234 | Are all Devcon participants sleeping? |
| 10:48:15 | paulheu | I guess |
| 10:48:40 | midkay | Jungti1234, no.. meeting off-camera.. |
| 10:48:41 | paulheu | I've been trying to fix this *&@#& font issue |
| 10:48:46 | midkay | paulheu, what is it? |
| 10:48:46 | paulheu | :) |
| 10:49:24 | paulheu | I installed the multifont patch, when I enter settings teh font always goes back to sysfont |
| 10:49:38 | paulheu | and returns to the set font when you cancel or exit |
| 10:49:40 | Jungti1234 | midkay |
| 10:49:55 | Jungti1234 | ah,, no |
| 10:49:57 | paulheu | I guess it's an easy fix, but so not know where to find it |
| 10:49:58 | midkay | paulheu, ah, no idea.. either way i doubt you'll like the patch.. i've heard that the disk spins up each time you enter a new menu because it has to load the font into memory each time.. |
| 10:50:02 | midkay | Jungti1234, what? |
| 10:50:22 | Jungti1234 | nothing |
| 10:50:48 | midkay | paulheu, i have no idea, but .. have you set the menu/"sys" font to be what you want it to? |
| 10:51:46 | paulheu | Yeah.. for now it's all nimbus-12 except for the sysfont of course, but that is where the problem is.. Guess I will take the patch out again for now.. |
| 10:52:04 | paulheu | although it's not a real big probelm.. |
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| 10:52:49 | ep0ch | Is it just more or does the iPod scroll wheel work the opposite way in the WPS than in menus? Scrolling clockwise in menus scrolls down, but scrolling clockwise in WPS increases the volume. |
| 10:53:23 | midkay | paulheu, have you figured out how to set the sys font? |
| 10:53:31 | safetydan | ep0ch, I'd say that's deliberate |
| 10:53:35 | midkay | or are you just not sure? it's called multifont, so you must be able to set seperate ones. :) |
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| 10:53:41 | Kummer | clockwise for both seems about right to me |
| 10:53:59 | midkay | ep0ch, would it make sense to scroll backwards to increase the volume? |
| 10:54:20 | midkay | as scrolling forward increases your position in the menus downward, it increases the volume in the WPS.. |
| 10:54:31 | paulheu | Yeah.. if I choose a system font using 'browse fonts' it will override all with that one, but still nogo.. |
| 10:54:44 | midkay | paulheu, hm, no idea then. |
| 10:54:51 | paulheu | I'll just remove the patch and see if the problem goes away to be sure it's not soemwhere else..;) |
| 10:54:58 | midkay | :) |
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| 10:55:26 | ep0ch | but visually you are scrolling down in the menu |
| 10:55:45 | ep0ch | not increasing your position |
| 10:56:06 | midkay | ep0ch, from a coding standpoint, you are increasing your position.. |
| 10:56:19 | midkay | e.g. you're 1 item down the menu.. you're two items down.. etc. |
| 10:56:20 | ep0ch | yeha i can understand that |
| 10:56:59 | midkay | ep0ch, you really think it would make sense to scroll backward to go down a list? or scroll backwards to increase the volume? you can look at it as inconsistent, but it's of course natural.. it works the same exact way in the apple firmware. |
| 10:58:23 | ep0ch | to me it would be natural that clockwise in the menu scrolls down (as is), but clockwise in WPS would decrease volume |
| 10:58:44 | safetydan | What does the apple firmware do? |
| 10:58:51 | Kummer | apple works like rockbox |
| 10:58:59 | Kummer | ep0ch, if it really bothers you, change in apps/gui/gwps.h |
| 10:59:13 | midkay | ep0ch, that would be "consistent", but you really think it would make more sense? |
| 10:59:15 | Kummer | #define WPS_INCVOL BUTTON_SCROLL_FWD |
| 10:59:15 | Kummer | #define WPS_DECVOL BUTTON_SCROLL_BACK |
| 10:59:25 | Kummer | swap those, and voila, backwards volume |
| 10:59:38 | ep0ch | yeha i'll give it a go |
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| 11:00:45 | midkay | ep0ch, also, in the settings menu.. increasing settings is scrolling forward (e.g. sound settings -> volume) - you propose changing that too? |
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| 11:01:52 | ep0ch | yup! |
| 11:02:16 | zoneout | is there an audioscrobler plugin for rockbox (ipod) |
| 11:02:19 | midkay | ep0ch, haha. i'm glad you're not high-up on the dev team.. :) |
| 11:02:23 | ep0ch | :D |
| 11:02:32 | midkay | zoneout, no(t yet). |
| 11:03:02 | zoneout | midkay: is there anyway to get rockbox to record what you've been listening to? |
| 11:03:18 | Kummer | ep0ch, apps/gui/select.h, #define SELECT_INC #define SELECT_DEC |
| 11:03:31 | Kummer | those control settings menus. Anyway you know where to look now. |
| 11:03:49 | midkay | zoneout, no, that's most of the job in giving rockbox audioscrobbler support. you can make it via coding it to, of course, but there isn't any code in place for that yet. |
| 11:04:14 | safetydan | There is the runtimedb but I'm not sure what state that's in at the moment |
| 11:04:43 | zoneout | midkay: cool... any idea when it'll be ready/ |
| 11:04:45 | zoneout | ? |
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| 11:05:30 | midkay | zoneout, no ETA... such a feature isn't really "planned" or being worked on.. but that kind of thing tends to happen spontaneously :) |
| 11:06:04 | zoneout | midkay: sure... |
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| 11:08:34 | ep0ch | Kummer: thanks |
| 11:09:09 | ep0ch | definitely seems more natural to me anyway, probably my dyslexia showing |
| 11:09:15 | ep0ch | ;) |
| 11:09:36 | midkay | ep0ch, -probably +definitely |
| 11:09:38 | midkay | ;) |
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| 11:10:17 | safetydan | Hrm... file copy speed has gone from 1.84 MByte/s to 6.41 MByte/s on iRiver |
| 11:10:19 | ep0ch | :) |
| 11:10:23 | safetydan | that's without the optimised write too |
| 11:10:23 | Kummer | the number of users who want backwards volume is so small that it's not even worth exposing as a configuration option, but of course the whole point of free software is you can build the source however you want |
| 11:10:36 | ep0ch | wow |
| 11:10:56 | leftright | safetydan, any thoughts/progress on the playlist catalog patch ? |
| 11:11:29 | safetydan | leftright, I was hoping Shebb would magically reappear with his improved version :) |
| 11:12:12 | leftright | no he's dissapeard into college, doubt we'll see him for a long time, according to his post |
| 11:13:11 | leftright | college in america is very emanding i gather, all those woman and beer to study |
| 11:14:40 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VKeyboardDesignProposal - What's this? |
| 11:14:48 | safetydan | I haven't looked at it further as I have been working on other bits. I don't think the status of the patch has changed for a while |
| 11:15:27 | safetydan | Jungti1234, possible design for new input system I think |
| 11:15:36 | leftright | no it hasn't, I think its up to you or hardeep, and there is no sign of hardeep either |
| 11:15:45 | Kummer | ep0ch I just built a backwards volume rockbox for my ipod nano. it works fine. |
| 11:15:49 | Jungti1234 | May I add Korean to it? |
| 11:15:55 | nudel | i'd be cool if the keyboard on the ipod wrapped to the next column when you scroll off the bottom with the wheel. |
| 11:15:59 | safetydan | Jungti1234, go ahead |
| 11:16:04 | ep0ch | Kummer: and its more natural too :D |
| 11:16:41 | Kummer | well on paper it sounds horrible but now that I'm actually running it that way, I find that I don't mind |
| 11:17:37 | ep0ch | good good |
| 11:18:25 | midkay | i will NOT be taken to the dark side here.. |
| 11:18:41 | leftright | safetydan, well thanks for looking into it. |
| 11:19:19 | safetydan | leftright, it might be easier to do it in stages... like first add a menu entry to append the current track to a playlist on disk rather than the otf playlist |
| 11:19:35 | safetydan | The other thing is the feature freeze coming up |
| 11:19:52 | ep0ch | go on try it, you know you want to |
| 11:20:12 | leftright | safetydan I think that any progress on this parch would be well recieved, |
| 11:20:13 | midkay | ep0ch, no. NO. you can't make me. |
| 11:20:33 | Kummer | I should point out that I didn't mind the forwards volume controls either |
| 11:20:38 | midkay | backwards-volume-control users are lusers. backwards-volume-control users are lusers. backwards-volume-control users are lusers. *repeats in head* |
| 11:20:44 | ep0ch | hehe |
| 11:21:01 | ep0ch | hangon what are you trying to tell me?! |
| 11:21:06 | Kummer | anyway where is that lostlogic, I've been playing with ipod nano battery display |
| 11:21:25 | midkay | backwards-volume-control users are lusers, but not all lusers are backwards-volume-control users. |
| 11:21:27 | leftright | safetydan, thats why I'm hoping something will be committed before the freeze, so that it doesn't die |
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| 11:21:54 | Kummer | I copied like three lines from config-ipodvideo.h into config-ipodnano.h and as far as I can tell the battery display works, and it doesn't _seem_ to harm performance or power usage any, so I'm wondering why this isn't in the CVS yet |
| 11:22:22 | midkay | Kummer, i think the batteries are different capacities so the display would be inaccurate for the nano.. |
| 11:22:44 | Kummer | it's done with voltages that are mapped to percentages |
| 11:23:03 | Kummer | and, the voltages don't seem too far off between the two |
| 11:23:09 | midkay | Kummer, maybe voltages are different on the nano as a result of a different capacity battery? |
| 11:23:12 | midkay | i'm not sure either.. |
| 11:23:14 | Kummer | more specifically, I noticed some top-end inaccuracy |
| 11:23:25 | Kummer | like, anything above 90% just displays as 90% |
| 11:23:38 | safetydan | leftright, I doubt it will die since LinusN likes it. It just needs someone motivated enough to do it right. |
| 11:23:43 | Kummer | but down in the 20-90% range it is a dead ringer to the official firmware's battery indicator |
| 11:24:06 | Kummer | I haven't tested below 20% yet because, well, you can only drain the battery so fast playing music :) |
| 11:24:17 | safetydan | Kummer, you should talk to Paul_The_Nerd, he's got the battery display working on his nano |
| 11:24:25 | leftright | can I send you a bottle of motivation :) |
| 11:24:30 | Kummer | thanks safetydan |
| 11:25:02 | safetydan | leftright, ha... I'm going a way for a month soon so I won't be able to work on it unfortunately |
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| 11:25:38 | safetydan | Kummer, you can compare notes. I think he's basically done the same thing you did. |
| 11:26:24 | leftright | ah, well perhaps someone else will look into it, thanks anyway safetydan |
| 11:26:33 | Kummer | it's clear lostlogic did a lot of the nano groundwork already, I'm just wondering why he didn't put in those last three lines |
| 11:27:14 | safetydan | Kummer, it's possible that he doesn't own a nano so can't test things like that |
| 11:27:33 | Kummer | but you are at the conference, there are plenty of nanos around!!! |
| 11:27:34 | Kummer | :) |
| 11:28:06 | safetydan | Well, I'm not at the conference. |
| 11:28:14 | Kummer | oops |
| 11:28:30 | safetydan | But lostlogic is so you should ask if he can look at it |
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| 11:38:13 | fairway | where can I get ipod colour skins? |
| 11:39:13 | JdGordon | B4gder: do u want another comp for the build servers? |
| 11:39:31 | JdGordon | is the script smart enough to only send a job to the comp if its actually on? |
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| 11:42:23 | JdGordon | who did the party mode patch? |
| 11:43:19 | safetydan | JdGordon, Zagor comitted it |
| 11:43:38 | JdGordon | its got a yukky bug |
| 11:43:54 | midkay | JdGordon, ooh. let's hear. |
| 11:44:40 | JdGordon | if u have "ask to overright dynamic playlist" set it will show that screen before adding the track.. it shouldnt.. |
| 11:46:27 | JdGordon | and unrelated... whoever "fixed" the quickscreen last week broke it on the h300... |
| 11:46:38 | midkay | JdGordon, i think that was me :) |
| 11:46:41 | midkay | what's wrong? |
| 11:46:54 | JdGordon | it looks terrible... |
| 11:46:57 | midkay | almost done with another update to it, but .. haha. |
| 11:47:00 | midkay | that's all? :) |
| 11:47:36 | JdGordon | oh, sorry... just checked it again.. i tinhk it was missing the cursor icons or something.. seems to work ok now.. looked betetr before tho |
| 11:48:12 | midkay | JdGordon, agreed @ looking better before.. i think it should look pretty good with my new update though. |
| 11:48:22 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 11:48:29 | midkay | quite similar, but still resolves the bug that was present before i touched it at all |
| 11:50:07 | fairway | hi |
| 11:50:16 | fairway | when recharching my ipod keeps constantly re-booting |
| 11:54:27 | Genre9mp3 | Hi all...I'm trying to compile my own version...I installed cygwin selecting all components needed (as guide said), downloaded a bleeding edge build but when I type configure in tools dir. I get this: "bash: configure: command not found"... What's wrong? Am I missing something or propably I made a bad cygwin install? Thanks in advance... |
| 11:54:45 | Sinbios | you need the configure package |
| 11:54:52 | midkay | Genre9mp3, it needs to be "../tools/configure". |
| 11:54:55 | midkay | not just "configure". |
| 11:55:10 | midkay | from your build-dir, that is. |
| 11:55:17 | Genre9mp3 | I type this in tools dir. |
| 11:55:21 | midkay | no. |
| 11:55:24 | Genre9mp3 | Isn't the same? |
| 11:55:27 | midkay | get to the source dir.. no. |
| 11:55:39 | midkay | rockbox-daily-whatever/ ? |
| 11:55:57 | midkay | cd into there.. then mkdir build - cd build - ../tools/configure. |
| 11:56:04 | midkay | you want to run the configure script from the build dir. |
| 11:56:19 | Kummer | Genre9mp3 cygwin is not like DOS. If you actually want to run the configure script from the tools directory you type ./configure |
| 11:56:27 | Kummer | but, you don't want to run it from the tools directory |
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| 11:56:45 | Genre9mp3 | ok...thank you...I'll retry now... |
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| 11:58:33 | Genre9mp3 | It works...Thank you very much for your help |
| 11:59:35 | JdGordon | how do i do a search through all files in a folder for a line? and let it tell me which file/line it is at (on linux) ? |
| 11:59:58 | Kummer | grep -r "line of text" directory/ |
| 12:00 |
| 12:00:17 | Kummer | for case insensitive search, grep -ir |
| 12:00:48 | JdGordon | thanx |
| 12:01:45 | Kummer | oh if you really want the line numbers displayed, grep -nr (or -nir etc.) |
| 12:06:06 | JdGordon | Zagor: u der? |
| 12:06:34 | bluebrother^ | JdGordon: if you only want that folder and not to be recursive leave the "r" out. |
| 12:06:49 | leftright | they're having brunch I think, there's nobody in big brother |
| 12:06:52 | Genre9mp3 | Great!!! :-) I just compiled my very first build!!! Again...Thanks for the instant help! |
| 12:07:02 | Jungti1234 | damn |
| 12:07:09 | JdGordon | thanx Kummer and bluebrother^ |
| 12:07:19 | Jungti1234 | 16x4 is so small. |
| 12:07:36 | leftright | genre9mp3, were the instructions unclear, if so do you think they should be changed ? |
| 12:08:22 | Jungti1234 | Korean is more need. |
| 12:08:41 | Genre9mp3 | The instructions were clear enough, it was my misunderstanding... |
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| 12:09:18 | chamois | hi all |
| 12:09:23 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 12:09:28 | chamois | i wonder how to build sim under linux |
| 12:09:32 | leftright | thanks, i think I'll try it myself sometime |
| 12:09:47 | chamois | i got undefined reference |
| 12:09:59 | chamois | how can i install sdl ? |
| 12:10:00 | Jungti1234 | oh.. Are they sleeping continuously? |
| 12:11:00 | bluebrother^ | chamois: what distribution do you habe? |
| 12:11:09 | chamois | debian |
| 12:11:34 | Lynx_ | http://butterflymp3.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:11:44 | bluebrother^ | you need the *-dev package. |
| 12:12:16 | chamois | i installed that: SDL-devel-1.2.9-1.i386.rpm |
| 12:12:24 | bluebrother^ | I don't know the exact name, on my fedora box it's called "SDL-devel", Debian uses -dev instead of -devel |
| 12:12:26 | chamois | it is not enough |
| 12:12:33 | chamois | ? |
| 12:12:34 | bluebrother^ | you installed a rpm on Debian? |
| 12:12:43 | chamois | yes |
| 12:12:47 | Kummer | bad idea |
| 12:12:49 | chamois | ok |
| 12:12:55 | bluebrother^ | try apt-get SDL-dev |
| 12:12:58 | Jungti1234 | ah.............:( |
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| 12:18:11 | bluebrother^ | hmm, debian seems to call the package libsdl-dev, not SDL-devel |
| 12:18:13 | bluebrother^ | try searching with apt-cache. |
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| 12:19:12 | chamois | i am searching |
| 12:19:25 | | Part leftright |
| 12:22:08 | Kummer | google seems to suggest apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev |
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| 12:25:26 | paulheu | Where can I find more info on part mode? |
| 12:25:32 | paulheu | party mode that is? |
| 12:25:59 | chamois | i get this error : dpkg : erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl1.2-dev_1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-4.1_i386.deb (−−unpack) : |
| 12:25:59 | chamois | tentative de remplacement de « /usr/bin/sdl-config », qui appartient aussi au paquet sdl-devel |
| 12:26:04 | chamois | any idea |
| 12:26:06 | chamois | ? |
| 12:26:06 | JdGordon | party mode just disables all the playlist keys (so u cant seek, change track, stop play), and when u try adding a new track it adds tot he end |
| 12:26:35 | bluebrother^ | chamois: can you tell this in english? |
| 12:26:40 | paulheu | Ah.. Ok that's cool.. |
| 12:26:57 | bluebrother^ | LANG=en_EN apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev |
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| 12:27:10 | bluebrother^ | I don't speak french ... |
| 12:27:22 | chamois | yes |
| 12:27:23 | chamois | sorry |
| 12:27:47 | bluebrother^ | but I guess you need to remove the sdl-devel rpm first. |
| 12:28:17 | chamois | su |
| 12:28:19 | chamois | oops |
| 12:29:50 | [IDC]Dragon | phew, we're done |
| 12:30:06 | Jungti1234 | wow |
| 12:30:08 | [IDC]Dragon | through the agenda |
| 12:30:15 | Jungti1234 | hello guys |
| 12:31:36 | [IDC]Dragon | LinusN prepares for a soldering session |
| 12:31:37 | crashd | [IDC]Dragon: you guys gonna put up notes from the conf? :) |
| 12:31:53 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
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| 12:32:23 | Jungti1234 | He lifted table. |
| 12:32:31 | JdGordon | hahah.. such a bunch of geeks ! |
| 12:32:35 | Jungti1234 | Easily. |
| 12:33:04 | B4gder | soldering coming up |
| 12:33:12 | Jungti1234 | Zagor:"oops" |
| 12:33:13 | B4gder | time to redirect the cam for a better view |
| 12:33:22 | Zagor | JdGordon: i guess party mode should queue it rather than insert, right? |
| 12:33:29 | JdGordon | ye |
| 12:33:32 | JdGordon | probably.. |
| 12:33:44 | Jungti1234 | nice B4gder.. |
| 12:33:49 | Zagor | I'll do that |
| 12:33:53 | JdGordon | but i was making it not show the damn warning screen |
| 12:34:03 | JdGordon | que next... |
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| 12:36:08 | Zagor | i hate firefox for not having a "show in browser" option for files |
| 12:36:20 | B4gder | amen |
| 12:36:32 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
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| 12:36:54 | Jungti1234 | hi muesli__ |
| 12:37:30 | * | [IDC]Dragon redirects the camera |
| 12:37:31 | muesli__ | high Jungti1234 |
| 12:38:01 | [IDC]Dragon | (soon) |
| 12:38:04 | Jungti1234 | They are busy. |
| 12:38:07 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 12:39:24 | Jungti1234 | um |
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| 12:40:14 | Zagor | live surgery |
| 12:40:29 | B4gder | introducing... soldering online, lesson #1 |
| 12:40:57 | Jungti1234 | soldering... |
| 12:41:10 | Jungti1234 | good |
| 12:41:27 | B4gder | now kids, ask a parent before you try this at home |
| 12:41:40 | Moos | what he will solder? :) |
| 12:42:00 | B4gder | an iPod serial cable at least |
| 12:42:01 | * | JdGordon has X working on colinux :D |
| 12:42:03 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 12:42:04 | JdGordon | sdl is next |
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| 12:43:17 | chamois | amiconn's head |
| 12:43:28 | Moos | Salut Chamois |
| 12:43:32 | chamois | hi |
| 12:43:35 | * | preglow does the lovely weather dance |
| 12:43:40 | Jungti1234 | Solid bottom plate of '3M' |
| 12:43:53 | crashd | i want sun ;\ |
| 12:44:56 | preglow | what's the surgery going on? |
| 12:45:29 | crashd | open heart surgery on LinusN |
| 12:45:36 | B4gder | removing regulator on an ondio |
| 12:46:56 | JdGordon | B4gder: u want another build server? |
| 12:47:09 | B4gder | yes please! |
| 12:47:16 | JdGordon | not 24x7 tho.. but its almost alwyas up |
| 12:47:30 | JdGordon | is the script good enough to not send it a job if its offline? |
| 12:47:46 | B4gder | I believe it is |
| 12:48:03 | JdGordon | alrighty then... what do i need to do? |
| 12:49:18 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 12:49:27 | B4gder | JdGordon: start here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CvsBuildServer |
| 12:49:44 | B4gder | t0mas: here? |
| 12:49:44 | Jungti1234 | Rockbox T-Shirt? |
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| 12:50:19 | preglow | yes |
| 12:50:27 | preglow | aren't they purdy? |
| 12:50:45 | Jungti1234 | purdy? |
| 12:51:24 | crashd | pretty. |
| 12:51:33 | Jungti1234 | yeah |
| 12:51:44 | Jungti1234 | I found it just. |
| 12:53:01 | t0mas | B4gder: showering ;) |
| 12:53:31 | Jungti1234 | I want to have those T-shirt one. :) |
| 12:54:06 | B4gder | t0mas: stop doing that and help JdGordon get his server going :-) |
| 12:54:18 | JdGordon | haha |
| 12:54:22 | * | JdGordon installing sdl |
| 12:54:30 | t0mas | yeah, I was showering... don't have a keyboard in the shower yet :P |
| 12:54:48 | JdGordon | why not?? u can get those plastic waterproof ones.. |
| 12:54:57 | t0mas | yeah, would be cool... |
| 12:55:06 | t0mas | see privmsg for setup instructions |
| 12:55:41 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/PICT0008.JPG |
| 12:56:21 | crashd | lol |
| 12:56:47 | Jungti1234 | big.... |
| 12:56:58 | crashd | hehe yeah |
| 12:57:04 | midkay | B4gder, cool :) |
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| 12:57:28 | B4gder | cropping, scaling and adding name tags and then we could put it somewhere |
| 12:57:42 | t0mas | who's the one next to linus? (on the left) |
| 12:57:46 | t0mas | brandon? or the mistery guest? |
| 12:57:53 | Jungti1234 | lady! |
| 12:58:12 | t0mas | that's christi |
| 12:58:24 | B4gder | brandon, linus, björn, christi, jörg, daniel, jens |
| 12:58:38 | crashd | left from right? |
| 12:58:41 | B4gder | yes |
| 12:58:41 | t0mas | yes |
| 12:59:06 | t0mas | lostlogic: you're looking more like my age... especially next to Linus ;) |
| 12:59:06 | Jungti1234 | welcome with a smile |
| 12:59:22 | B4gder | grandpa linus |
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| 12:59:31 | Jungti1234 | hahahahahahahahaha |
| 12:59:37 | t0mas | L*nusN... don't hilight him ;) |
| 12:59:52 | B4gder | he's busy soldering now |
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| 12:59:55 | Moos | in the faces this is Jens apeared older for me |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:15 | t0mas | yes, but Linus is bald... |
| 13:00:24 | t0mas | B4gder: what player is being totured there? |
| 13:00:27 | t0mas | *tortured |
| 13:00:31 | Moos | Ondio |
| 13:01:11 | Moos | is there already the backlight chip in this Ondio? |
| 13:01:12 | * | Jungti1234 laughs. |
| 13:01:30 | t0mas | is live internet surgery a first timer? |
| 13:01:37 | t0mas | we should e-mail some papers :P |
| 13:01:44 | Moos | hehe :) |
| 13:02:16 | Jungti1234 | They disappeared suddenly. |
| 13:02:25 | midkay | that can't be an ondio.. |
| 13:02:26 | t0mas | yes |
| 13:02:35 | Moos | t0mas : aren't you wrinting in PC review? |
| 13:02:39 | midkay | it's not. :) no way.. |
| 13:02:40 | Moos | :) |
| 13:02:46 | lostlogic | t0mas: how old are you? |
| 13:02:49 | midkay | maybe an iaudio.. |
| 13:02:49 | t0mas | Moos: Pc-Active |
| 13:02:52 | t0mas | lostlogic: 17 |
| 13:03:01 | Moos | midkay: where? |
| 13:03:04 | t0mas | in exactly 1 month... 18 :D |
| 13:03:08 | midkay | Moos, on the table.. |
| 13:03:11 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 13:03:12 | midkay | or you mean in the webcam? |
| 13:03:13 | lostlogic | hah, guess I stll look pretty young then.. |
| 13:03:13 | midkay | *goes to check* |
| 13:03:22 | | Part chamois |
| 13:03:23 | * | Moos saw ane Ondio |
| 13:03:30 | t0mas | lostlogic: or just... not that old ;) |
| 13:03:32 | midkay | ah. never mind. :) |
| 13:03:42 | Moos | :-) |
| 13:04:19 | Moos | t0mas: go write one Rockbox review in PC-Active then ;-) |
| 13:04:26 | Moos | a bit of propaganda |
| 13:04:28 | t0mas | ghehe, they won't accept it |
| 13:04:40 | Moos | just kinding :) |
| 13:04:42 | t0mas | but I can write about modding ipods I guess... because that's more mainstream |
| 13:04:50 | Moos | boo |
| 13:04:55 | Moos | :-) |
| 13:04:59 | t0mas | so if we have an ipod release, I can try to write about that |
| 13:05:12 | Jungti1234 | There is toxicity with the picture. |
| 13:05:30 | t0mas | but hey... I'm normally doing security related things... SSH with privkey, rootkits, secure e-mail, bufferoverflows |
| 13:05:31 | Moos | Jungti1234: uh? |
| 13:05:34 | t0mas | are the last subjects |
| 13:05:41 | Moos | ah ok |
| 13:05:41 | Jungti1234 | I am looking at continuously it. |
| 13:05:45 | midkay | turn the camera!! we wanna see the screeeen. |
| 13:05:46 | midkay | :) |
| 13:05:57 | Moos | haha :D |
| 13:05:58 | B4gder | the screen? |
| 13:06:07 | Moos | at left |
| 13:06:10 | midkay | projector.. um.. output? |
| 13:06:10 | midkay | :) |
| 13:06:16 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 13:06:20 | B4gder | that's just showing the image capture program |
| 13:06:28 | B4gder | rather boring |
| 13:06:39 | midkay | looks like flyspray.. i'm wrong i suppose? :) |
| 13:06:53 | B4gder | the list on the right that you can see are the file names of the captured images |
| 13:07:04 | Moos | B4gder: is the Ondio LinusN is soldering have the backlight chip soldered yet? |
| 13:07:13 | B4gder | I don't know |
| 13:07:17 | Moos | ok |
| 13:07:18 | B4gder | I think it is Jens' unit |
| 13:07:20 | Jungti1234 | Don't seem well. |
| 13:07:26 | Moos | ah |
| 13:07:32 | t0mas | brb, time to get my breakfast :P |
| 13:07:36 | t0mas | at 13:07 |
| 13:07:43 | Moos | B4gder: then it have propably |
| 13:07:56 | Jungti1234 | t0mas: lunch? |
| 13:08:02 | midkay | B4gder, so they're being saved? or is it just a list, no content? |
| 13:08:03 | t0mas | no |
| 13:08:03 | Moos | bon appétit t0mas |
| 13:08:06 | t0mas | breakfast |
| 13:08:14 | Jungti1234 | 13:07 is.. |
| 13:08:22 | B4gder | midkay: they're being captured and uploaded and deleted |
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| 13:08:29 | midkay | B4gder, haha. ah. |
| 13:08:44 | B4gder | there's 12 per minute |
| 13:08:47 | B4gder | 50K each |
| 13:08:56 | Jungti1234 | I want to see animation(video). |
| 13:09:01 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 13:09:07 | B4gder | Jungti1234: then start collecting the images :-) |
| 13:09:21 | t0mas | B4gder: it's just 35 Mb per hour |
| 13:09:24 | t0mas | not that shocking is it? |
| 13:09:33 | JdGordon | how long do the cvs build servers take for each build (actual, not avg time for each?) |
| 13:09:43 | t0mas | 60 seconds |
| 13:09:51 | t0mas | but some are way faster |
| 13:09:54 | midkay | B4gder, 600k/min.. 36mb/hr.. 864mb/day.. ~2000mb/conference. that's not so bad. :) |
| 13:09:54 | t0mas | and others are slower |
| 13:10:10 | B4gder | still, we don't |
| 13:10:26 | Jungti1234 | um... |
| 13:10:34 | JdGordon | hmm... maybe might not be soo good adding me then |
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| 13:10:52 | Jungti1234 | poor surroundings |
| 13:11:09 | B4gder | JdGordon: why not? |
| 13:11:28 | JdGordon | colinux... the sim build just took about 2 min... |
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| 13:11:49 | B4gder | JdGordon: you use ccache? |
| 13:11:51 | JdGordon | actually prob a bit more... |
| 13:12:04 | JdGordon | ye, just installed it tho.. |
| 13:12:05 | skwad | hmmmm just tought there was a fix for the enterkeypad under cygwin :-( |
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| 13:12:17 | aliask | t0mas: are you April 19th or 20th? |
| 13:12:43 | t0mas | 19 |
| 13:12:49 | aliask | Ah damn |
| 13:12:53 | aliask | You are 1 day older than me |
| 13:12:55 | aliask | Haha |
| 13:12:59 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 13:13:00 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 13:13:21 | t0mas | now I feel really happy... not the yougnest here |
| 13:13:31 | aliask | Just browsing the logs and I saw that, thought it was interesting... Time for sleep... |
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| 13:13:37 | aliask | Glad to be of service t0mas. |
| 13:13:43 | aliask | G'night. |
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| 13:13:47 | t0mas | haha |
| 13:14:23 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 13:14:30 | t0mas | hmz... in autralia... what date is it there today? |
| 13:14:31 | crashd | ohh, it's my birthday soon too \o |
| 13:14:49 | Jungti1234 | when? |
| 13:14:54 | crashd | may 6th |
| 13:14:58 | crashd | soon enough, anyway |
| 13:15:00 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 13:15:17 | t0mas | isn't autralia like 1/2 day before CET? |
| 13:15:18 | safetydan | t0mas, March 19th still... depending on where in Australia |
| 13:15:21 | crashd | but im not quite as young as these whippersnappers |
| 13:15:25 | Jungti1234 | oh |
| 13:15:34 | safetydan | East coast of aus is +10 on average |
| 13:15:48 | t0mas | so they're before us? |
| 13:16:11 | t0mas | so his birthday is 1 day after mine... but that day starts there half a day before here :) |
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| 13:16:14 | Jungti1234 | oops |
| 13:16:20 | Jungti1234 | :O |
| 13:16:43 | t0mas | well... anyway... brb... breakfast :) |
| 13:16:51 | Jungti1234 | ~ |
| 13:17:55 | JdGordon | why the hell isnt .bashrc being run on login? |
| 13:18:06 | Zagor | JdGordon: you're not running bash? |
| 13:18:12 | JdGordon | i am |
| 13:18:27 | JdGordon | i tinhk |
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| 13:18:34 | crashd | you've got a syntax error somewhere? |
| 13:18:48 | obo | JdGordon: debian? |
| 13:18:54 | JdGordon | oboye |
| 13:19:10 | obo | check in .profile to see if it's being called? |
| 13:19:15 | webguest33 | Hi all. I have seen that there is progress on x5. Is there already a bootloader? |
| 13:19:47 | B4gder | webguest33: well, almost |
| 13:19:55 | B4gder | but rockbox doesn't build for x5 yet |
| 13:19:56 | | Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") |
| 13:20:00 | B4gder | so there's nothing to start |
| 13:20:30 | webguest33 | B4gder: good news... thanks |
| 13:21:06 | preglow | btw |
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| 13:21:13 | preglow | my nano is really bloody unstable now |
| 13:21:16 | safetydan | x5 seems like a popular target, so many questions about it today |
| 13:21:17 | JdGordon | obo: new user i created manually... |
| 13:21:21 | preglow | anyone else having it? |
| 13:21:27 | preglow | data aborts at every corner |
| 13:21:31 | crashd | preglow: which build you using? |
| 13:21:40 | obo | JdGordon: did you copy the files from /etc/skel ?? |
| 13:21:46 | JdGordon | no |
| 13:21:51 | preglow | brand new, with some of my own stuff, but i don't think it should affect anything |
| 13:21:56 | crashd | heh |
| 13:22:04 | * | crashd makes a note not too install bleeding edge today |
| 13:22:06 | bluebrother^ | obo: usually this should happen when creating the user ... |
| 13:22:12 | preglow | i'll try a daily |
| 13:22:21 | bluebrother^ | on my box .bashrc is sourced by .bash_profile, not .profile |
| 13:22:22 | Kummer | huh? I just built a cvs nano two hours ago, with some of my own stuff, and it's never been better |
| 13:22:22 | Jungti1234 | They are watched to us. :D |
| 13:22:26 | obo | bluebrother^: <JdGordon> obo: new user i created manually... |
| 13:23:10 | bluebrother^ | ok, missed that. |
| 13:23:26 | JdGordon | yippe :D it works |
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| 13:24:52 | obo | bluebrother^: ah, .profile and .bash_profile here - guess that's what you get if you keep updating since 2002 :) |
| 13:25:11 | preglow | ooook, it seems i have some bug hunting to do before i commit |
| 13:25:19 | crashd | hehe |
| 13:25:22 | crashd | problems in your patches preglow ? |
| 13:25:37 | preglow | yeah, probably backlight fading |
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| 13:25:51 | crashd | oh! didnt know you'd got that working on pod targets |
| 13:25:56 | preglow | i have |
| 13:25:58 | crashd | did you have to use modulation? |
| 13:26:00 | JdGordon | "copy public key to .ssh directory" ? |
| 13:26:02 | preglow | well, yeah |
| 13:26:10 | preglow | i have no idea if it supports any hardware fading |
| 13:26:34 | preglow | lostlogic: love your clickwheel work |
| 13:27:29 | HCl | sup |
| 13:28:09 | preglow | but ok, i have enabled backlight fading on ipods, do i really have to bump the config block version for all targets to make it work reliably? |
| 13:30:04 | amiconn | We have no per-target config block version |
| 13:30:29 | preglow | right, so i have to bump the config block version for a one target feature |
| 13:30:37 | preglow | or just ask people to reset their settings |
| 13:31:16 | HCl | sounds like that should be changed |
| 13:31:24 | preglow | myeah |
| 13:31:28 | preglow | it'll happen again, that's for sure |
| 13:31:53 | HCl | or like, write a system to "upgrade" a config block from an old to a new version |
| 13:32:00 | preglow | to big a bother |
| 13:32:03 | preglow | there are too many combinations |
| 13:32:06 | HCl | *nods* |
| 13:32:16 | preglow | besides |
| 13:32:22 | preglow | you can just save your config file and load it |
| 13:32:24 | preglow | that does that |
| 13:32:25 | amiconn | The issue will vanish when we switch to using a .cfg file for the current settins |
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| 13:32:26 | HCl | oh |
| 13:32:30 | HCl | okay |
| 13:32:32 | HCl | amiconn: sounds good |
| 13:32:39 | preglow | amiconn: will we? |
| 13:32:44 | amiconn | I think so |
| 13:32:49 | preglow | good |
| 13:33:02 | preglow | shall i just ignore the issue for then, then? |
| 13:33:09 | HCl | as soon as i get home i'll dig into porting vexed :) |
| 13:33:15 | amiconn | Just bump the version, I'd say |
| 13:33:18 | preglow | ok |
| 13:33:20 | preglow | will do |
| 13:33:27 | * | B4gder agrees |
| 13:33:31 | preglow | i also got a really strange bug |
| 13:33:37 | preglow | i get a data abort at the very start of the uie handler... |
| 13:33:57 | preglow | and also at exception vector 4 ... |
| 13:34:15 | preglow | and it's a fact, that address is not fetching anything unaligned, it's impossible |
| 13:34:22 | preglow | so there's a bug in the exception handling somewhere |
| 13:35:34 | JdGordon | yay, sdl sim is working under vnc and colinux :d |
| 13:37:48 | safetydan | wow, Christi's tearing through the bugs |
| 13:38:13 | * | t0mas is back |
| 13:40:40 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:42:08 | HCl | wb |
| 13:42:46 | * | Zagor is setting up a git repository |
| 13:43:16 | HCl | git? |
| 13:43:30 | preglow | sounds like a retirement home |
| 13:43:34 | HCl | as replacement for cvs or? |
| 13:43:35 | * | B4gder silently announces that we did go through the entire agenda here |
| 13:43:47 | * | [IDC]Dragon logs off |
| 13:44:13 | midkay | see you [IDC]Dragon - wave for us! :) |
| 13:44:13 | Zagor | HCl: as a test, yes. we're looking at either subversion or git. |
| 13:45:42 | Paprica | Devs: may i commit tetrox? |
| 13:45:55 | HCl | i know subversion, never heard of git though |
| 13:46:05 | Mikachu | it's what linux uses |
| 13:46:06 | HCl | what are the benefits of subversion/git over cvs? |
| 13:46:11 | safetydan | HCl, it's what the linux kernel guys used |
| 13:46:11 | HCl | uh.. bitkeeper? |
| 13:46:23 | safetydan | they haven't used bk for a while now |
| 13:46:24 | HCl | doesn't linux use bitkeeper? |
| 13:46:25 | Zagor | HCl: git replaces bitkeeper |
| 13:46:26 | HCl | ah. |
| 13:46:36 | HCl | i hated bitkeeper |
| 13:46:38 | safetydan | Linus got sick of the license sniping I think and wrote his own |
| 13:46:45 | HCl | sounds good to me |
| 13:46:46 | Mikachu | HCl: larry said 'you can't use bk anymore haha!' |
| 13:46:54 | Mikachu | and linus was like oh shit, and he wrote git in 3 minutes |
| 13:46:57 | HCl | grin. |
| 13:47:03 | HCl | sounds sensible to me |
| 13:47:08 | HCl | i never thought bitkeeper to be a good idea |
| 13:47:18 | HCl | closed source and all, or it at least appeared that way |
| 13:47:24 | safetydan | git is a different scm paradigm from svn though so it'll take some adjusting |
| 13:47:32 | elinenbe | for real... what is the super news that's coming out of devcon? |
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| 13:47:40 | Paprica | DEVS? |
| 13:47:43 | Zagor | apparently it really made linus' life a lot easier with regards to patches, which is a problem we are faced with too. |
| 13:47:44 | XavierGr | shit I lost the surgery! |
| 13:47:50 | HCl | bbl |
| 13:48:15 | Zagor | elinenbe: we've mostly done a lot of talking. lots of good stuff has been decided. like a release schedule. |
| 13:48:30 | Paprica | LinusN, Zagor, amiconn, [IDC]Dragon, someone, may i commit tetrox? |
| 13:48:49 | Zagor | Paprica: does it replace rockblox? |
| 13:48:54 | Paprica | yep |
| 13:49:07 | Zagor | with shiny graphics and cool soundtrack? ;-) |
| 13:49:16 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4837 |
| 13:49:39 | Paprica | soundtrack no, but nice graphics IMO |
| 13:49:52 | * | amiconn would prefer to keep the horizontal aspect, at least on archos |
| 13:50:11 | Paprica | amiconn, did you try it on archos? |
| 13:50:20 | amiconn | No, not yet |
| 13:50:28 | Zagor | Paprica: commit it |
| 13:50:28 | midkay | Paprica, btw.. i tried it for iPod.. for what it's worth i think spinning the block by scrolling the wheel is a bit touchy and annoying.. |
| 13:50:48 | amiconn | Btw, I still have rockcalendar in here from testing it. Did you get my remarks? |
| 13:51:01 | Zagor | Paprica: i assume you've fixed the ipod nano compile issue? |
| 13:51:21 | Paprica | amiconn, yes, but dont have time to work on it |
| 13:51:28 | Paprica | Zagor, yes |
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| 13:51:56 | Paprica | midkay, do you have another key maping for the ipod? |
| 13:51:59 | JdGordon | any1 know how to get vncserver going when the system boots up? (as a user, not root? ) |
| 13:52:09 | elinenbe | Zagor: you missed on the schedule "speed up rockboy a bit" |
| 13:52:53 | midkay | Paprica, for the 4G pad.. menu currently "restarts" the game which IMO is a bit useless.. i'd suggest menu being flip the block.. keep everything else the same.. do away with restart for the 4G pad, or make it select+play perhaps? |
| 13:52:55 | stripwax | JdGordon - isn't there some vncserver config that defines the user it runs as? |
| 13:53:05 | Zagor | elinenbe: :-) |
| 13:53:23 | JdGordon | stripwax: i dunno.. thats why im asking |
| 13:53:51 | elinenbe | Zagor, LinusN: what's the current status on the iAudio port? |
| 13:54:07 | Paprica | midkay, i think that i need to hear another comments about the key maping before i change it |
| 13:54:21 | obo | JdGordon: su username -c vncserver in a custom init script? |
| 13:54:44 | elinenbe | aren't you moments away from a working X5? |
| 13:54:54 | midkay | Paprica, feel free to wait.. i just think that spinning the block intentionally is a bit hard to get it in the right orientation.. and you tend to spin it unintentionally as well when moving your fingers around to move the block.. |
| 13:55:01 | B4gder | elinenbe: from a bootloader, yes |
| 13:55:08 | B4gder | but not from a rockbox |
| 13:55:28 | B4gder | the playback code doesn't build on x5 yet for example |
| 13:55:49 | B4gder | iirc |
| 13:56:10 | safetydan | Where's langv2 on the realease map? |
| 13:56:14 | safetydan | release even |
| 13:56:15 | B4gder | 3.0 |
| 13:56:27 | B4gder | we need it to get sensible strings |
| 13:57:09 | safetydan | cool. I must have missed it on my first read |
| 13:57:18 | B4gder | it wasn't there then :-) |
| 13:57:34 | B4gder | we figured out we had missed that in our discussion yday |
| 13:57:57 | safetydan | ah |
| 13:58:26 | safetydan | lousy wiki pages always changing after you read them |
| 13:58:35 | preglow | is there something missing with the eq before it can be released? |
| 13:58:44 | preglow | i can only think of a couple of things |
| 13:58:59 | skwad | Jens is doing some nice stuff with reading / writing disk speed ^^ |
| 13:59:08 | Mikachu | Paprica: fwiw, i like using the scroll for rotating tetris blocks.. |
| 13:59:16 | elinenbe | what is the current status with tagcache? |
| 13:59:53 | Bger | amiconn: 1)what happened with the ata timings on iriver; 2) should i be "scared" by the ata write ? |
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| 14:00:03 | Paprica | Mikachu, the current key mapping? |
| 14:00:08 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 14:00:34 | safetydan | preglow, I was wondering about that too |
| 14:00:37 | amiconn | Bger: You shouldn't be scared. It underwent quite some testing. |
| 14:01:01 | Bger | k;) |
| 14:01:08 | Bger | and regarding 1) ? |
| 14:01:19 | amiconn | I have the ata timing changes applied locally, but we need to make sure we don't exceed the ata specs, and that means connecting the logic analyser |
| 14:01:28 | amiconn | (which I can't do myself) |
| 14:02:05 | Bger | some work for linus, then ;) |
| 14:02:44 | Mikachu | Paprica, midkay: but my scroll wheel is less sensitive than cvs, if you only turn on every third event or so it should improve a lot |
| 14:03:20 | midkay | Mikachu, blast you! ;) Paprica, hm, a potential compromise?.. move "restart" to Select+Play (how often do you need to do that anyway?..) and map Menu as an alternate block flip.. |
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| 14:04:06 | safetydan | B4gder, was there any talk of a font that will be roughly the same visual size on all targets? |
| 14:04:12 | Paprica | midkay, ok you right |
| 14:04:19 | safetydan | Would make it easier to do a relatively resolution independant interface. |
| 14:04:28 | safetydan | well... easier |
| 14:04:44 | midkay | Paprica, you lose no functionality, but it just makes playing a bit easier (IMO of course).. the scroll wheel just seems to be too touchy.. spin a little, doesn't move.. spin a bit more, you've done 3 rotations.. try to spin back.. etc |
| 14:04:46 | LinusN | elinenbe: i have enough to build a bootloader |
| 14:05:00 | LinusN | all i need now is an application to load |
| 14:05:02 | midkay | Paprica, yay :) |
| 14:05:14 | LinusN | unfortunately, rockbox doesn't yet build for the x5 |
| 14:05:48 | | Part Clanth |
| 14:05:49 | XavierGr | Bger: What happened with the zoom thingy? |
| 14:06:28 | Zagor | safetydan: no. we're reather aiming at making more things font independent |
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| 14:06:57 | amiconn | fooooood |
| 14:07:05 | Zagor | yeah, lunch |
| 14:07:32 | | Join Massa1 [0] (n=Massa1@85.220.132.199) |
| 14:07:36 | XavierGr | or launch as I say :) |
| 14:07:44 | [IDC]Dragon | a late lunch |
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| 14:07:59 | Massa1 | Hi everybody! |
| 14:08:31 | safetydan | I still think we need a font of known size on all targets. What is the eq graphical screen supposed to do if the user's picked a font for the UI that's too large? |
| 14:08:32 | muesli__ | tacho Massa1 |
| 14:08:43 | * | safetydan watches devs leave |
| 14:09:01 | preglow | so no idea on what the eq needs before release? |
| 14:09:01 | safetydan | This web cam is more effective than an away message |
| 14:09:11 | | Join Zoide7777 [0] (n=800c5ab5@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:09:22 | safetydan | preglow, if you look at the web cam, no one's in front of their screens any more |
| 14:09:23 | XavierGr | yeah we must install one in each dev home |
| 14:09:29 | preglow | i wasn't just asking them |
| 14:09:46 | Zoide7777 | any news on tagcache or grayscale lib for ipod 4g grayscale? |
| 14:10:03 | preglow | grayscale lib for ipods is closer now |
| 14:10:04 | safetydan | k, things I know are problematic with the eq, 1) precision of coefficient generation, 2) the UI isn't scaled for anything other than h100 |
| 14:10:07 | Massa1 | I just came back from a trip which lasts a few days - so I'm not really informed on what goes on here! So how is devcon going ;) ? Any big changes? |
| 14:10:08 | preglow | since timer.c is ready |
| 14:10:15 | Zoide7777 | preglow: awesome :) |
| 14:10:20 | linuxstb | Paprica: FWIW, I agree with midkay about the Tetrox button mappings on ipod. Ignore the scrollwheel, use MENU for rotate and forget about restart. |
| 14:10:54 | XavierGr | Massa1: Some nice commits and a release schedule!! |
| 14:11:12 | midkay | linuxstb, maybe we need an option - there will probably be a bit of disagreement.. |
| 14:12:38 | Massa1 | I already saw the release schedule and also had a look at the commits - nice stuff :)! Are there any other things which are currently not in "CVS quality" on which the devcon member work behind the scene? |
| 14:12:53 | XavierGr | dunno |
| 14:13:42 | midkay | hm, one potential solution that may work nice - initally disable the scroll wheel for rotation, but still scan it - if it's spun around once fully at any point (e.g. 4-6 input events?..).. then enable the usage of the wheel for rotation permanently for that session.. |
| 14:13:44 | safetydan | asm ata write seems to make no different to file copy speed |
| 14:14:23 | preglow | it should |
| 14:14:24 | midkay | avoids accidental rotation for MENU rotators.. and still very easily allows touchwheel rotators to jump right in without any combinations to enable the wheel or whatever.. |
| 14:14:30 | preglow | if you mean locally on the player |
| 14:14:35 | Massa1 | BTW, I still have some a small and unimprtant problem with my H300 non LCD-remote (which I hoped to be fixed lately - but it isn't) |
| 14:14:42 | safetydan | preglow, yeah locally with my cut/copy/paste patch |
| 14:14:50 | safetydan | I think I've hit the drive speed limit |
| 14:15:07 | preglow | safetydan: and yeah, we need a prescale |
| 14:15:20 | safetydan | after the read patch it went from 1.8 to 6.4 MByte/s, I guess it can't go faster |
| 14:15:20 | Hansmaulwurf | uh, where can i find the new "party mode"? |
| 14:15:22 | safetydan | preglow, ah yes |
| 14:15:23 | Massa1 | The detection of the remote Hold button does not work 100%... |
| 14:15:30 | preglow | and perhaps bandwidth instead of Q |
| 14:15:56 | safetydan | sinh() |
| 14:16:05 | preglow | yeah, i need to think of something fancy for that |
| 14:16:06 | Bger | XavierGr i'll look into it tomorrow maybe |
| 14:16:21 | skwad | Hansmaulwurf : in the playback settings |
| 14:16:24 | safetydan | well I have some spare time soon so I should look at making cordic do what we want |
| 14:16:34 | preglow | safetydan: that would be sweet |
| 14:16:56 | safetydan | I know it can be made to hyperbolic functions along with circular and inverse circular |
| 14:17:05 | preglow | yeah, that would be completely sweet |
| 14:18:06 | safetydan | no promises though, this is stretching my limited recollection of trig from university maths and my fixed point skills :) |
| 14:18:15 | skwad | for what do you use hyperbolic functions ? |
| 14:18:48 | safetydan | skwad, the equation for the relationship between bandwidth and Q in the equalizer requires sinh |
| 14:19:00 | skwad | ok, thx |
| 14:19:02 | Hansmaulwurf | sorry, cant find it skwad |
| 14:19:17 | Hansmaulwurf | or is it only in the last bleeding edge build? |
| 14:19:26 | skwad | Hansmaulwurf : I think so |
| 14:19:31 | Hansmaulwurf | hm ok |
| 14:19:52 | preglow | also |
| 14:19:57 | preglow | i think a better resampler should be a release goal |
| 14:20:06 | preglow | but i can't promise i'll be able to do it |
| 14:20:31 | safetydan | What about the guy working on improving crossfeed? |
| 14:20:53 | safetydan | anything come out of that lately? |
| 14:21:14 | preglow | that too is all up to me |
| 14:21:19 | safetydan | busy man |
| 14:21:21 | preglow | the algo is complete, but i haven't had time to do it |
| 14:21:40 | preglow | it'll also be a bit tricky to optimise |
| 14:21:44 | preglow | it needs to be asm |
| 14:22:07 | preglow | we need more dsp people :> |
| 14:22:30 | safetydan | How many do we have, you and? |
| 14:22:34 | preglow | me |
| 14:22:35 | preglow | heh |
| 14:22:58 | preglow | jlo is a dsp guy, but i don't think he's a coder |
| 14:23:01 | Mikachu | midkay: i'm at level 10 with 212 removed lines and 124380 points... :) |
| 14:23:15 | midkay | Mikachu, wow :) |
| 14:23:23 | Mikachu | so scroll wheel works fine |
| 14:23:32 | midkay | Mikachu, your reduced version? :) |
| 14:23:38 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 14:23:52 | Mikachu | i thought the wheel was generally too sensitive a while ago, i changed the delta checks in button.c from 4 to 10 |
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| 14:24:24 | BoD[] | Hello :) |
| 14:24:24 | midkay | if you want a testimonial.. i was playing a game a few nights ago of tetrox.. it was piling up, finally i got the I brick that i really needed, but the scroll wheel flipped it twice when i only wanted it once, and i ran out of time.. it caused me to lose. |
| 14:24:27 | midkay | :) |
| 14:24:37 | midkay | hey BoD[] |
| 14:24:47 | BoD[] | are they sleeping? |
| 14:24:59 | preglow | lunch |
| 14:25:01 | midkay | with PCs/lights on? doubt it :) |
| 14:25:07 | BoD[] | ah !! wow |
| 14:25:11 | BoD[] | did they sleep at all??? |
| 14:25:21 | * | Paprica just commit tetrox |
| 14:25:30 | midkay | Paprica, did you hear what i said earlier? |
| 14:25:32 | midkay | the suggestion |
| 14:25:40 | Paprica | i change the mapping |
| 14:25:51 | midkay | after that, about scroll wheel "detection".. |
| 14:26:08 | Paprica | oh no |
| 14:26:14 | midkay | Paprica, <midkay> hm, one potential solution that may work nice - initally disable the scroll wheel for rotation, but still scan it - if it's spun around once fully at any point (e.g. 4-6 input events?..).. then enable the usage of the wheel for rotation permanently for that session.. |
| 14:26:22 | midkay | <midkay> avoids accidental rotation for MENU rotators.. and still very easily allows touchwheel rotators to jump right in without any combinations to enable the wheel or whatever.. |
| 14:26:29 | midkay | sounds _perfect_ to me.. |
| 14:27:15 | Paprica | this is the mapping now |
| 14:27:17 | Paprica | http://pastebin.com/610552 |
| 14:27:56 | midkay | Paprica, that sounds fine - but i think detecting the scroll wheel is a better idea if you were up to it. |
| 14:28:20 | midkay | no "accidents" with people who prefer MENU; no combinations/toggles for the wheel preferers. |
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| 14:29:39 | Paprica | i'll think about that, i dont have more time today for rockbox things, i have a test tomorrow at the school |
| 14:29:49 | Paprica | i need to learn =] |
| 14:30:03 | midkay | Paprica, that's cool - i can try it tomorrow myself if you don't mind.. :) |
| 14:30:16 | Paprica | try it and send a patch |
| 14:30:17 | Paprica | ] |
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| 14:30:21 | Paprica | =] |
| 14:30:33 | JdGordon | Zagor: can u change party mode to get it to que next.. not que last? |
| 14:30:43 | midkay | Paprica, or commit it myself? :) |
| 14:30:46 | JdGordon | or add the choice as an option? |
| 14:30:58 | Paprica | you have commit access? |
| 14:31:19 | midkay | Paprica, no, give me your account name/pass ;) j/k, yes, i do |
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| 14:31:36 | Paprica | =] |
| 14:32:02 | Paprica | ok so commit it if no one against it |
| 14:32:05 | skwad | is it possible to use variables in lang files ? |
| 14:32:13 | preglow | no |
| 14:32:21 | safetydan | skwad, yeah sort of with sprintf |
| 14:32:33 | preglow | well, yeah, but that's a fixed variable set in the c file |
| 14:32:34 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Don't you think the scroll events are the wrong way round for Tetrox? i.e. rotate right should be scroll forward. |
| 14:32:51 | midkay | Paprica, it sounds very good to me.. i can't imagine any complaints |
| 14:33:16 | skwad | because there are some strings with written : press on to accept and off to cancel, but when you dont have on / off buttons .... |
| 14:33:26 | preglow | skwad: that'll be fixed in langv2 |
| 14:33:35 | skwad | ok |
| 14:33:58 | skwad | so I should wait a little bit to update a lang file, no ? |
| 14:34:18 | preglow | no, update the lang file, but use ON and OFF instead of what they're truly called |
| 14:34:27 | linuxstb | midkay: I would be happy if you removed the scroll support completely, so I wouldn't complain about such a commit. |
| 14:34:32 | preglow | just follow the conventions that are in there alrady, even though it's not correct |
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| 14:35:28 | skwad | preglow : but these are player specific, aren't they ? |
| 14:35:29 | midkay | linuxstb, right, my goal would be to effectively remove it for us elitist menu rotators.. but still allow it to be used for people who prefer it that way.. you shouldn't notice its presence unless you intend to use it, ideally. |
| 14:35:35 | midkay | :) |
| 14:35:38 | Mikachu | midkay: 200380 :) |
| 14:35:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's this about removing scroll support? |
| 14:35:53 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, for the tetrox plugin.. |
| 14:35:56 | Mikachu | linuxstb: no i think they're right |
| 14:36:39 | Kummer | oh hey paul |
| 14:36:42 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, currently scrolling left/right rotates the brick.. some seem to prefer it that way, me and linuxstb prefer menu to flip the block.. so i proposed reading the scroll wheel and when a few events from it stack up, enable its usage.. (disabled by default).. |
| 14:36:47 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, do you have battery reading working okay on your nano? |
| 14:37:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Ah, okay. I just saw "removes scroll support" and was all thinking of other things. |
| 14:37:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: It seems pretty reliable, yes |
| 14:37:21 | Mikachu | linuxstb: you rotate the finger in the same way the piece rotates.. |
| 14:37:22 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah, i'm also set out to kill scroll support in the menus, yes.. problem? :) |
| 14:37:42 | preglow | wheel is still set to rotate? |
| 14:37:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I was just trying to figure out what you meant by "elitist menu flippers" |
| 14:38:00 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha. are you a menu flipper or a scroll flipper? |
| 14:38:16 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, do you think the battery settings should be enabled in CVS for nano? |
| 14:38:23 | Kummer | paul_the_nerd: I pasted some lines from config-ipodvideo.h into config-ipodnano.h in a naive fashion and the battery indicator seems to mostly work |
| 14:38:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: If I played, I'd be a menu flipper. I need *one* button to flip, and it needs to rotate 90 degrees in one direction every time. |
| 14:38:29 | safetydan | Someone was here earlier wonder about that |
| 14:38:29 | safetydan | ah |
| 14:38:31 | midkay | if you're a scroll flipper (rotator).. you're just too pathetic to understand the ways of the menu flippers. :) |
| 14:38:31 | safetydan | there they are |
| 14:38:47 | Mikachu | i really like this way of flipping, i always have trouble with the one-button approach |
| 14:38:48 | Kummer | there's some very slight inaccuracy in the endpoints near 0% and 100% but othe than that it seems fine |
| 14:38:55 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah, good. i was worried for a moment. :) |
| 14:39:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: Definitely. There is an issue that at "full" charge, it can show anywhere from 90% to 100%, but I think that's because the reading just isn't very accurate. The apple firmware seems to be the same way |
| 14:39:18 | Mikachu | another thing is that level 10 is much too easy, but that's for later :) |
| 14:39:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kummer: Yeah, the apple firmware seems pretty inaccurate anyway, though. |
| 14:39:58 | midkay | i can actually vouch for that 90% thing, now that you mention it - i never see my ipod 5G at 100% - even after an overnight charge, apple OS always shows one level down from max.. |
| 14:40:26 | safetydan | well, now we just need to get lostlogic to commit it then :) |
| 14:40:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | safetydan: Anyway, 5865 *seems* to work fine as a scale factor, though I believe the batteries are like, 330mah so the menu where you set the capacity can't even go that low. ;-) |
| 14:41:10 | Kummer | I actively experimented with other scale factors and didn't find any other ones as good as 5865 |
| 14:41:35 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, 330mah, really? |
| 14:42:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Yep. I've even found services that'll replace 'em with a 400. |
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| 14:42:36 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, nice.. i guess that the menu should be changed to go that low, then? |
| 14:42:47 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes - rotating the wheel clockwise (i.e. forward) should be rotating right... But it rotates left. |
| 14:42:49 | Kummer | you can measure the increase in battery life under 400 and use that to estimate the capacity of the original battery |
| 14:42:57 | stripwax | wow, the 5g uses just 330mah batteries?! how long do they last between charges in practice? |
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| 14:43:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | stripwax: No, the Nano uses 330 |
| 14:43:08 | Kummer | nano not 5g |
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| 14:43:13 | stripwax | ah! oops |
| 14:43:23 | * | stripwax shuts up |
| 14:43:35 | Kummer | I get about 9 hours battery under rockbox |
| 14:43:56 | hypno2 | hey there, just letting you guys know that the devcon webcam doesnt seem to be working correctly at this moment |
| 14:44:26 | hypno2 | keeps refreshing every 5 seconds, but no image is loaded |
| 14:44:45 | midkay | maybe taken down? |
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| 14:45:28 | Kummer | I wonder if the 1GB and 2GB nanos have different batteries than 4GB |
| 14:46:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Well, right now the Nano uses the 1300MAH define, which I'm not entirely too sure about since even though most of the values seem to work, seems like it'd cause confusion. |
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| 14:46:32 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, you mean the display is scaled to work with 1300mah? |
| 14:46:49 | Mikachu | linuxstb: that's odd... maybe i changed it then |
| 14:47:42 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, in other words.. lowering it would throw off the displayed value? |
| 14:48:21 | Kummer | I raised it all the way up to 3200mAh and the percentages didn't change noticeably |
| 14:48:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I really don't know. I'm not sure what raising and lowering the value in the menus changes, honestly. I think it just changes what it estimates as "Time Remaining" but I'm not sure |
| 14:49:00 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah, maybe that's right - i know it changes that, but i'm not sure about the displayed value.. |
| 14:49:17 | midkay | displayed value being icon/% |
| 14:49:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I'm just referring to #define CONFIG_BATTERY BATT_LIPOL1300 in the config-ipodnano file, as a seemingly bad name. |
| 14:50:02 | Kummer | not to mention the ipodbatteryfaq website claims nanos use Li-ion, not polymer |
| 14:50:46 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, right, i'm talking about lowering the min limit in the MAH selection screen to select the appropriate value for other batteries (in this case iPods).. but i'll leave it alone for now, since i'm not sure how the system is setup for display and what changing the mah value will do exactly |
| 14:51:24 | Kummer | http://ipodbatteryfaq.com/ipodbatteryandpower.html |
| 14:52:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Yeah, at the moment it's not a matter of urgency anyway. Since the estimated time remaining is probably way off either way |
| 14:52:21 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha, yes :) |
| 14:52:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | As a note, how do I set the date/time at the command prompt in linux? This vmware machine seems to be a little bit in the future, and complaining every now and then after a cvs update. |
| 14:52:44 | Mikachu | the apple website also says nanos use li-ion iirc |
| 14:53:01 | Kummer | rdate -s -p time.nist.gov |
| 14:53:01 | Mikachu | it talks about charge cycles and not being emptied completely not being a problem etc |
| 14:53:19 | Mikachu | you shouldn't use that server... it's not polite :) |
| 14:53:26 | Kummer | oh sorry |
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| 14:53:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kummer: no rdate. It's a very minimal debian installation. Also, I guess I need to set the time zone. |
| 14:53:57 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: ln -s /usr/share/timezone/correctfile /etc/localtime |
| 14:53:58 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is weeding out various problems with the vmware rockbox kit. |
| 14:54:06 | Mikachu | er |
| 14:54:09 | Mikachu | that should be zoneinfo |
| 14:54:12 | Mikachu | not timezone |
| 14:54:13 | Kummer | date -s "Mar 19 08:53:43 EST" |
| 14:54:19 | Kummer | -s meaning set |
| 14:54:40 | Mikachu | it should get the time from the host correctly though |
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| 14:56:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: It's possible it's just in the wrong timezone that's causing it. |
| 14:57:17 | Mikachu | if the minute and seconds then it's just the timezone |
| 14:57:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Actually, it couldn't be... because the complaint was always that the files were about 420 seconds in the future. |
| 14:59:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I just rebooted it, and it set its clock from my system clock for 18 minutes in the past... |
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| 15:00:46 | MarcoPolo | where is the sncviewer plugin located on rockbox cvs ? |
| 15:00:57 | obo | Paul_The_Nerd: tzsetup |
| 15:01:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't believe sncviewer is included in CVS. |
| 15:01:08 | MarcoPolo | where can i find it then ? |
| 15:01:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's a patch for it in the patch tracker, I think |
| 15:01:25 | MarcoPolo | ok |
| 15:01:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | obo: Tzsetup isn't present. |
| 15:01:28 | MarcoPolo | thanks ! |
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| 15:02:30 | obo | doh - tzconfig |
| 15:04:17 | Mikachu | who is dhcp87.contactor.se and what are you doing? |
| 15:04:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | obo: Not present either. |
| 15:04:47 | preglow | i want smaller backlight fade times :/ |
| 15:04:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: What's the lower limit? |
| 15:05:02 | preglow | 0.5s |
| 15:05:06 | preglow | which is a bit too long |
| 15:05:22 | Mikachu | do you have ipod fading going yet? |
| 15:05:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can't just half the number of steps or anything? |
| 15:05:31 | preglow | yes |
| 15:05:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it's that fast, how flickery does it look? |
| 15:05:57 | preglow | it's fine on all but the longest times |
| 15:06:11 | MarcoPolo | Paul_The_Nerd: i can't find the patch in the tracker |
| 15:06:12 | preglow | it isn't flickery, it the fade just looks a bit stepped at the longer times |
| 15:06:26 | preglow | i get the strangest bloody crash addresses evetr |
| 15:07:17 | nudel | my mobile phone flickers when it fades the light down |
| 15:08:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | MarcoPolo: I dunno then. Maybe they haven't submitted it to the tracker for some reason. |
| 15:08:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: What makes the lower limit a limit? |
| 15:09:45 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: nothing |
| 15:09:51 | preglow | the times are preset |
| 15:10:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 15:11:39 | preglow | there's something decidedly funky with my build indeed |
| 15:12:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | "Funky?" |
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| 15:12:47 | preglow | it crashes at the oddest addresses |
| 15:13:02 | Moos | skwad: around? |
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| 15:13:57 | preglow | it crashes a lot in the jpeg viewer |
| 15:14:05 | preglow | even with my fade code disabled |
| 15:14:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, something else is broken? |
| 15:14:46 | preglow | apparently |
| 15:14:56 | preglow | hmmm |
| 15:15:40 | preglow | i think i've got an idea... |
| 15:15:45 | preglow | two, actually |
| 15:15:47 | preglow | let's pray it's that |
| 15:17:19 | preglow | ahh, praised be the lord |
| 15:17:34 | preglow | my memtest16 is buggy |
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| 15:18:16 | * | preglow summons amiconn |
| 15:18:28 | preglow | forget it, i found test_mem again |
| 15:18:45 | sharpe | spongebob is flying! |
| 15:18:56 | preglow | too much lsd for you! |
| 15:19:55 | sharpe | and he acomplished the feat by using a hair dryer. in water. to fill his pants with air. |
| 15:20:48 | stripwax | hehe, that's brilliant |
| 15:21:23 | sharpe | and mr krabs got him to clean his garage... |
| 15:21:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently the announced feature freeze has created a small "OMG are they stopping working on H300 for a month" panic. :) |
| 15:22:44 | Bger | :P |
| 15:24:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | I seem to remember H100 improvements happening during the last one. |
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| 15:24:40 | Bger | otoh bug fixing is an improvement :) |
| 15:24:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Those were the improvements I was talking about |
| 15:24:51 | davinci | waht does the "feature freeze" means? |
| 15:24:57 | davinci | "what" |
| 15:25:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: Stop adding new things, and fix the ones already there |
| 15:25:30 | stripwax | wonder if that includes the "auto change directory" bug ... |
| 15:25:56 | Bger | stripwax it should include *all* known bugs |
| 15:26:09 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: what's the reason for that? |
| 15:26:19 | stripwax | Bger - woohoo! ;-) |
| 15:26:28 | MarcoPolo | no one knows where this patch can be found. the topic was active yesterday. and all links i find on the net refers to this topic. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2372.0 |
| 15:26:39 | Bger | of course, fixing from the most serious down to the least one |
| 15:27:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: So that they can fix most of the bugs, and release a "stable" version |
| 15:27:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | MarcoPolo: It seems to be attached to that post |
| 15:28:03 | preglow | test_mem says memset16 works correctly all of a sudden |
| 15:28:15 | davinci | "Stop adding new things, and fix the ones already there" means they stop adding new features and fixing the old ones. Good idea :) |
| 15:28:16 | sharpe | it's lying! |
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| 15:28:42 | MarcoPolo | Paul_The_Nerd: oh, ok, I had to be logged in to see the attachment |
| 15:29:31 | sharpe | hmm... kind of odd, i never get a complete 100% charge, always around 95% or 90% |
| 15:29:31 | * | Paul_The_Nerd mutters. |
| 15:29:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | VMWare is beginning to irritate me. |
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| 15:30:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | The clock is all kinds of annoying. |
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| 15:32:39 | skwad_ | grrrrr i can't recover my nick |
| 15:33:03 | amiconn | preglow: We're back |
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| 15:33:20 | lostlogic | sharpe: what device? |
| 15:33:23 | Bger | amiconn but not the webcam ... |
| 15:33:37 | Bger | there is a conspiracy! |
| 15:33:40 | Bger | :D |
| 15:33:52 | sharpe | ipod video |
| 15:34:07 | amiconn | That memory leak in the cam software again... |
| 15:34:11 | sharpe | heheh, 24mhz is apparantly not fast enough to decode mp3s in real time... :) |
| 15:34:49 | sharpe | hmm |
| 15:35:25 | preglow | amiconn: test_mem says my asm memtest16 when it makes all kinds of odd behaviour, do you know of any errors it wouldn't notice? |
| 15:35:36 | preglow | amiconn: insert 'is correct' where makes sense |
| 15:36:06 | amiconn | Hmm, not that I know of |
| 15:36:32 | preglow | it's really weird, it seems memset16 is the cause of all the really weird data aborts |
| 15:36:42 | preglow | abort at uie, abort at exception vector, the list goes on |
| 15:37:28 | amiconn | How could memset16() cause a data abort in UIE()? |
| 15:37:46 | preglow | i think i'll go insanse if i ever know |
| 15:37:53 | preglow | it probably corrupts something |
| 15:37:54 | amiconn | The only place that uses memset16() is the lcd 16 bit driver |
| 15:38:14 | amiconn | Hmm, perhaps |
| 15:38:29 | preglow | and yeah, if i remember correctly, memset16 assumes the pointer is aligned by 2, yes? |
| 15:38:35 | preglow | 'cause i don't handle that |
| 15:38:51 | amiconn | yes, it assumes word aligment |
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| 15:45:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maaan. You're not allowed to check off anything on the ReleaseToDo until April 3rd. You people are supposed to be pushing in new features all the way up to the line. :-P |
| 15:45:22 | sharpe | yeh, never gets completely up to 100%, only around 97-98% hmm... |
| 15:45:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: What kind of iPod? |
| 15:46:01 | sharpe | video |
| 15:46:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: Also, are you charging in rockbox, or in Apple OS then rebooting to rockbox? |
| 15:46:19 | sharpe | rockbox |
| 15:46:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Odd |
| 15:47:24 | preglow | devcon people: you list eq in the 'freeze until fully implemented' list for 3.0, any issues in particular you were thinking about? |
| 15:49:50 | lostlogic | sharpe: forget the percentage |
| 15:49:58 | lostlogic | sharpe: it's not calibrated yet |
| 15:50:34 | sharpe | 'kays. |
| 15:50:53 | lostlogic | sharpe: the voltage readings are calculated from the battery based on the datasheet formula (which may or may not exactly match) but we still haven't done any battery discharge vs. time graphing to determine the full charge / discharge cycle voltage readings to correlate to percentages |
| 15:51:06 | sharpe | hmm |
| 15:51:24 | sharpe | sounds like something i should do. |
| 15:51:31 | lostlogic | sharpe: sure! |
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| 15:51:46 | B4gder | preglow: getting the swcodec status in a good shape is a big piece |
| 15:52:13 | preglow | indeed, and also has nothing to do with the eq, which is what i'm wondering about :> |
| 15:52:27 | B4gder | ah |
| 15:52:35 | B4gder | the eq is only mentioned since that is going in |
| 15:52:45 | preglow | rightieo |
| 15:52:54 | B4gder | I don't think anyone meant that anything in particular is outstanding for it |
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| 15:55:50 | Bger | LinusN does the proper init of the backlight pin of the pcf50606 has any connection with the power issues ? |
| 15:56:05 | preglow | i couple of things are, just wondered if you had anything new in mind |
| 15:56:08 | preglow | i=a |
| 15:56:57 | LinusN | Bger: nope |
| 15:57:02 | B4gder | of couple of things are what? |
| 15:57:18 | preglow | outstanding |
| 15:57:21 | preglow | needs fixing |
| 15:57:25 | preglow | etc |
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| 15:57:44 | * | Paul_The_Nerd suddenly gets the Mayday pun. |
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| 15:58:07 | B4gder | Paul_The_Nerd: its a double pun even |
| 15:58:07 | * | sharpe doesn't. |
| 15:58:18 | B4gder | we had loooots of fun with that german commercial |
| 15:58:19 | preglow | like a better sin(), volume prescaler, and bandwidth instead of q adjustment |
| 15:58:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaaah |
| 15:58:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Such a wonderful commercial |
| 15:58:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Vhat are you sinking? |
| 15:58:44 | * | B4gder giggles |
| 15:59:10 | B4gder | preglow: yes, but none of that is really a MUST for 3.0 are they? |
| 15:59:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | But when I saw "Planned for Mayday" in my inbox relating to one of the flyspray emails, I just went "oooooh.... mayday." |
| 15:59:40 | B4gder | Cassandra's clever code name |
| 15:59:44 | Bger | ah, what do you guys think about a "centric" place (as in dir) for all settings/plugin settins|records etc ... ? |
| 15:59:52 | preglow | B4gder: the first is |
| 15:59:58 | preglow | B4gder: and the second, imhop |
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| 16:00:17 | B4gder | feel free to add to the wiki page |
| 16:00:34 | preglow | nah, i'm already going to fix them anyway |
| 16:01:08 | preglow | but time to catch the train home, later |
| 16:01:34 | B4gder | I'm off too |
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| 16:07:26 | sharpe | heh, AAAA batteries... |
| 16:07:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Task closed, task reopened... My inbox is being battered |
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| 16:09:40 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder's family is here |
| 16:10:33 | elinenbe_work | nice! |
| 16:11:09 | [IDC]Dragon | but camera-shy |
| 16:12:53 | amiconn | Paprica: Button assigment problems in tetrox on Ondio :( |
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| 16:14:29 | [IDC]Dragon | here she is |
| 16:14:54 | t0mas | ah cool |
| 16:15:04 | safetydan | So that's the youngest Rockbox developer then? |
| 16:15:10 | * | t0mas imagines a little kid with an iriver ;) |
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| 16:15:19 | t0mas | safetydan: maybe I am? |
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| 16:15:36 | t0mas | at least I think I'm the youngest with cvs access... |
| 16:15:43 | t0mas | but I don't know all others |
| 16:15:46 | lefright | cute little Badger |
| 16:16:06 | safetydan | Well Bagder could give his daughter CVS access... though I'm not sure how well that would work out |
| 16:16:15 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 16:16:24 | lefright | doll house tertix |
| 16:16:26 | [IDC]Dragon | he should give her a t-shirt first |
| 16:16:38 | t0mas | t-shirt? tent ;) |
| 16:19:25 | sharpe | what if i'm the youngest? :) |
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| 16:21:20 | lefright | christi looks industrious all the time, wonder whats on her screen ? |
| 16:21:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Flyspray |
| 16:22:02 | lefright | is there a bug problem in sweden |
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| 16:22:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | She's closing a lot of the old bugs, and updating others to "Due in 3.0" etc |
| 16:22:59 | lefright | good old admin work |
| 16:23:21 | sharpe | hmm... so far, battery discharge is at 86 % |
| 16:23:39 | sharpe | wait, that doesn't sound right. |
| 16:25:33 | sharpe | battery charge is at 86%... that's better. |
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| 16:43:16 | Bger | good Cassandra, good :) |
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| 16:49:45 | linuxstb | Cassandra: I saw that you closed this bug - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4724 - but I'm still experiencing that problem on both my 5g and 4g Color iPod with the current CVS. |
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| 16:52:08 | * | t0mas yawns |
| 16:52:14 | t0mas | boring sunday afternoon |
| 16:52:41 | sharpe | it's a boring... everyday for me. |
| 16:53:27 | t0mas | well... get something todo :) |
| 16:53:35 | sharpe | heh, i'm trying... |
| 16:53:42 | * | t0mas normally has a problem with only 24 hours a day |
| 16:53:53 | t0mas | 48 would be better :P |
| 16:54:17 | preglow | do anyone ever use the return value of memset? :> |
| 16:54:26 | t0mas | what does it return? |
| 16:54:30 | sharpe | wow, it's only 11 o'clock here... |
| 16:54:37 | sharpe | i'm guessing it returns a value... |
| 16:54:38 | amiconn | memset returns the start address |
| 16:54:42 | t0mas | ah |
| 16:54:45 | t0mas | no, never used that |
| 16:54:53 | preglow | 'cause that's the only bug i have that i can find |
| 16:54:53 | t0mas | I already have the start value... |
| 16:54:55 | preglow | i don't return that |
| 16:55:06 | sharpe | i never realized it returned the start address |
| 16:55:33 | preglow | i just remembered it |
| 16:55:56 | amiconn | preglow: Since memset16() is our own stuff, we can leave out the return value |
| 16:56:19 | amiconn | memset() should behave as specified though |
| 16:56:26 | preglow | yeah, but the memset doesn't either |
| 16:56:45 | preglow | and to make it do that, i either have to recode everything to make it traverse memory backwards |
| 16:56:50 | preglow | or stack the address value |
| 16:57:14 | linuxstb | preglow: A quick grep in apps/ and firmware/ doesn't show anything that uses the return value from memset |
| 16:57:28 | preglow | no, that's what it looked like to me too |
| 16:57:32 | preglow | but then i'm stumped |
| 16:57:50 | preglow | test_mem says my memset16 is correct, i can't see any bugs, but yet, it crashes rockbox in the oddest ways |
| 16:57:58 | linuxstb | You could just write a C wrapper function that calls your asm memset. |
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| 16:58:20 | preglow | and lose performance? never! |
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| 17:04:48 | [IDC]Dragon | gentlemen, we have voice on ipod! |
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| 17:04:59 | * | Paul_The_Nerd cheers |
| 17:05:00 | [IDC]Dragon | all credits to Jens |
| 17:05:09 | linuxstb | Hurray. All we need now is some voice files... |
| 17:05:19 | [IDC]Dragon | they're the same |
| 17:05:36 | linuxstb | I didn't think there were any up-to-date voice files available? |
| 17:06:02 | amiconn | preglow: You don't need to actually stack the start address |
| 17:06:24 | amiconn | It should still be on the stack at the end of the function, so just fetch it a second time |
| 17:06:42 | preglow | amiconn: arm doesn't pass args on the stack |
| 17:07:05 | amiconn | oh |
| 17:07:08 | amiconn | ok |
| 17:08:58 | preglow | and right now i only use the stack (for preserving one reg) for large memsets, and i'd like to keep it like that |
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| 17:09:12 | Mikachu | heh, hadn't updated cvs in a few days... conflicts galore but all resolved now |
| 17:09:42 | preglow | anywho, recoding memset to set memory backwards won't be very hard, i'll just do that |
| 17:10:12 | preglow | i assume the pp chip doesn't have any cache prefetch i can break by doing that anyway |
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| 17:11:21 | Mikachu | Paprica: tetrox needs a highscore table! :) |
| 17:14:55 | elinenbe_work | all the games should have a high score table :-) |
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| 17:15:10 | Bger | Paprica iirc, there is a highscore api .. |
| 17:16:58 | davinci | where do I find all features supported by basic rockbox? (without patches) (sorry, I still have n00b questions) |
| 17:18:03 | Bger | davinci in the wiki :) |
| 17:18:07 | Bger | and in the manual .. |
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| 17:22:46 | elinenbe | when does devcon2006 end? |
| 17:23:03 | Mikachu | today |
| 17:25:01 | davinci | Bger: what about features like WPS tags added into CVS? http://www.rockbox.org/manual/rec-general.html is offline? |
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| 17:26:20 | elinenbe | Are the devcon rumors true? |
| 17:26:41 | elinenbe | doom and gameboy are playable on rockbox? |
| 17:26:42 | muesli__ | which rumours? |
| 17:27:01 | safetydan | err... gameboy games have been playable for a while |
| 17:27:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | elinenbe: Gameboy's been playable on rockbox for ages... |
| 17:27:02 | muesli__ | there are payable for ages |
| 17:27:11 | muesli__ | ;) |
| 17:27:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | elinenbe: And there's been a doom patch in the tracker for several weeks. |
| 17:27:17 | safetydan | sounds like Doom will get included in official builds soonish, but it's been available as a patch for ages |
| 17:27:19 | elinenbe | I mean SNES and Plasystation! |
| 17:27:24 | elinenbe | and Quake! |
| 17:27:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
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| 17:28:51 | sharpe | let's port quake to rockbox everyone! :P |
| 17:29:28 | * | [IDC]Dragon gives up on the Archos wav for now |
| 17:29:28 | Mikachu | midkay: okay, i've got 633 lines and 410780 points now (same round) :) |
| 17:29:48 | preglow | safetydan: i'm going to commit some 64 bit related changes to dsp code now, would you be as king as to check if the eq still works on 32 bit sims? |
| 17:29:57 | safetydan | can do |
| 17:30:45 | * | safetydan awaits preglow's 64-bit changes |
| 17:30:51 | safetydan | make a change of pace from staring at cordic stuff |
| 17:31:14 | Mikachu | preglow: can i just comment out the ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ line to compile without support for it? |
| 17:31:53 | preglow | Mikachu: yes |
| 17:32:19 | preglow | Mikachu: as long as you're talking in the config header file |
| 17:32:24 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 17:32:42 | Mikachu | just commenting out one of the ifdef lines is probably not a good idea :) |
| 17:33:11 | * | amiconn says goodbye from devcon |
| 17:33:15 | | Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") |
| 17:33:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is adjustible cpu frequency causing problems? |
| 17:33:23 | preglow | safetydan: eq sounds wrong here, see |
| 17:33:33 | preglow | safetydan: and i'm wondering if that too is a 64 bit problem |
| 17:33:47 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: well, responsiveness is shite with it enabled |
| 17:33:54 | safetydan | preglow, it's entirely possible it is wrong as I didn't check it that closely |
| 17:34:07 | preglow | safetydan: it gives one hell of a boost to the volume here |
| 17:34:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Well yeah. I was just curious if it was causing actual problems. |
| 17:34:14 | safetydan | hrm, that I don't remember |
| 17:34:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Has any thought been given to just causing a boost on a timer, similar to backlight coming on when a button is pressed? |
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| 17:36:18 | preglow | i'd rather we didn't do that |
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| 17:36:21 | preglow | it hides the problem |
| 17:37:03 | preglow | but sure, a very simple of way of boosting eq responsiveness is just boosting when the backlight is on |
| 17:37:12 | preglow | that way you'll always be responsive when the gui is in use |
| 17:37:16 | preglow | s/eq/gui/ |
| 17:37:24 | safetydan | preglow, seems okay here |
| 17:37:36 | preglow | safetydan: ok, i pretty much know what's wrong, then |
| 17:37:40 | Mikachu | preglow: but that has problems if backlight is always on or always off |
| 17:37:46 | preglow | Mikachu: indeed |
| 17:37:47 | safetydan | only looked at the low shelf filter though |
| 17:37:53 | preglow | safetydan: try a peaker as well |
| 17:38:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Well, I wasn't specifically meaning when the backlight was on, because some people just disable it. But Is there really a "problem" with the GUI responsiveness, or is it just a little too taxing for the speed the cpu's at? |
| 17:38:12 | Mikachu | wow, i got 953 unique ips for the webcam |
| 17:38:52 | preglow | taxing |
| 17:38:56 | preglow | we need to speed it up |
| 17:39:01 | preglow | and there are lots of ways of doing that |
| 17:39:03 | preglow | just needs doing |
| 17:39:06 | diablo_ipod | hello ! Can I ask you just a few questions about rockbox on ipod ? |
| 17:39:53 | safetydan | preglow, peak seems fine as well |
| 17:40:00 | sharpe | sure |
| 17:40:11 | safetydan | can't guarantee they're accurate since I didn't measure it, but it defintely affects the sound in the "right" way |
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| 17:40:28 | [IDC]Dragon | say goodby to the webcam |
| 17:40:30 | preglow | safetydan: then it's accurate |
| 17:40:34 | preglow | goodbye :/ |
| 17:40:36 | Mikachu | byebye |
| 17:40:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | diablo_ipod: Ask away |
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| 17:40:42 | sharpe | bye bye webcam |
| 17:40:43 | * | Mikachu removes ftp account |
| 17:41:00 | t0mas | devcon over? |
| 17:41:50 | diablo_ipod | I have problems saving cfg files on a ipod 4g grayscale |
| 17:42:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | diablo_ipod: What sort of problems? |
| 17:43:03 | diablo_ipod | everytime time i try to save a cfg file, like eq settings or theme setting, it doesn't create files, so i cannot save it... |
| 17:43:17 | diablo_ipod | and it's problematic, isn'it ? :D |
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| 17:44:36 | Mode | "#RockBox +o t0mas " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 17:44:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | diablo_ipod: Does it actually say 'Settings Saved" when you do it? |
| 17:44:49 | Topic | "Rockbox - The mp3 player firmware" by t0mas (n=tomas@rockbox/developer/t0mas) |
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| 17:46:44 | Mikachu | can someone change the devcon page to not point to me anymore? |
| 17:46:50 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: I think cygwin is now installed just like it has to be :) |
| 17:46:52 | t0mas | do we have ogg playback on ipods already? |
| 17:46:56 | Mikachu | yes |
| 17:47:00 | sharpe | si |
| 17:47:00 | t0mas | all? |
| 17:47:04 | t0mas | or some of them? |
| 17:47:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: Have you gotten the build to work? |
| 17:47:08 | safetydan | t0mas, all that we support |
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| 17:47:09 | Mikachu | nano works |
| 17:47:29 | diablo_ipod | just a second, i connect via mIRC |
| 17:47:35 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: I got cygwin to look like the one one the scrrenshot :D |
| 17:47:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: Good, then. |
| 17:48:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | t0mas: All ipods that have audio support in rockbox, yes. |
| 17:48:07 | t0mas | ok |
| 17:48:07 | preglow | t0mas: we've had that since audio was enabled |
| 17:48:09 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: I'll try to compile it in about an hour |
| 17:48:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | davinci: Good luck |
| 17:48:33 | [IDC]Dragon | goodby, this has been devcon |
| 17:48:39 | davinci | Paul_The_Nerd: but you was the one helped me, thnk you one more time |
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| 17:48:52 | [IDC]Dragon | this notebook is the last to be packed |
| 17:49:00 | preglow | [IDC]Dragon: have a nice trip back |
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| 17:50:29 | [IDC]Dragon | thanks |
| 17:50:49 | preglow | would anyone here with a working m68k crosscompiler care to test a patch for me? |
| 17:50:49 | Mikachu | lostlogic: the stopping at ends of menus until you release and touch again is pretty neat |
| 17:50:51 | diablo_ipod | yes it displays settings saved |
| 17:51:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Sure. |
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| 17:51:14 | diablo_ipod | excuse my bad english, i'm french :) |
| 17:51:22 | sharpe | are they not in /.rockbox/ ? |
| 17:51:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | diablo_ipod: And it doesn't create a file in /.rockbox/? |
| 17:51:40 | Mikachu | lostlogic: and i updated the patch, seems to work fine still |
| 17:51:49 | diablo_ipod | no, they aren't.. |
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| 17:51:54 | [IDC]Dragon | cu |
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| 17:52:06 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: you can test it on your nano as well, if you can be bothered |
| 17:52:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: No problem. Point me to it. :) |
| 17:52:28 | diablo_ipod | when i want to load a cfg file, it displays "no cfg files !" |
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| 17:52:41 | safetydan | preglow, I can build for m68k as well |
| 17:52:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | diablo_ipod: And you're going to "Manage Settings" to save it? |
| 17:53:03 | diablo_ipod | yes |
| 17:53:12 | preglow | http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/super_backlight.patch |
| 17:53:15 | preglow | test that |
| 17:53:37 | preglow | backlight fading should work on ipod nano, and should also work like before on h120 |
| 17:54:05 | safetydan | that's a lot of #elif |
| 17:54:30 | diablo_ipod | and just another question : do you have a idea for when the battery indicator will be implemented ? :) |
| 17:54:32 | Nico_P | wow... 108 mails from the patch tracker :-o ... some people have been busy during the devcon |
| 17:54:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | diablo_ipod: I really don't know.. the config saving works on the Nano for me, at least. |
| 17:55:09 | preglow | and btw |
| 17:55:15 | preglow | it's bork your settings |
| 17:55:32 | diablo_ipod | i will retry on my ipod when it'il come back from repair... :-/ |
| 17:55:50 | safetydan | preglow, yeah I saw the config block version change |
| 17:56:08 | sharpe | i've an idea! |
| 17:56:18 | safetydan | Anything in particular to look for? Or it should just work? |
| 17:56:36 | preglow | just enable fading |
| 17:56:37 | preglow | and it shoudl |
| 17:57:17 | safetydan | First try works fine |
| 17:57:49 | preglow | on which device? |
| 17:57:53 | safetydan | h120 |
| 17:57:55 | preglow | excellent |
| 17:58:07 | safetydan | 2s and 500ms look fine to me |
| 17:58:11 | preglow | i'll just go ahead and commit it, then |
| 17:58:28 | preglow | anyone who wants to try backlight fading for their platform can just enable a define now |
| 17:58:37 | MarcoPolo | is there a way to tweak some things to get the recording from headphone jack instead of a line out ? |
| 17:58:54 | diablo_ipod | and a last thing : i just want to thank you for the fabulous work you do ! The forum where i am ( generationmp3.com ) loves rockbox, everybody says that your firmware is the best ! |
| 17:59:09 | Mikachu | preglow: i'm trying it on my nano too |
| 17:59:25 | * | Paul_The_Nerd complains that his compiles are still too slow |
| 17:59:53 | safetydan | preglow, yeah it looks fine on h120, music plays, backlight fades, plugins work, backlight fades |
| 17:59:55 | safetydan | it's all good |
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| 18:00:09 | Mikachu | preglow: it works :) |
| 18:00:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Since safetydan tested H120, I went straight to Nano. Looks good there. |
| 18:00:15 | safetydan | diablo_ipod, good to hear people like it |
| 18:00:37 | preglow | excellent |
| 18:00:39 | preglow | i'll just commit it |
| 18:01:01 | Mikachu | is it a simple linear decrease of intensity? |
| 18:01:40 | Mikachu | the last part when it goes off looks sort of faster |
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| 18:02:06 | preglow | anyone here got a 5g? |
| 18:02:23 | preglow | Mikachu: i think it's a simple linear fade, yeah, and we might want to change that |
| 18:02:24 | Mikachu | and i agree there should be a 250ms option at least |
| 18:02:29 | preglow | Mikachu: i think apple's fade looks nicer |
| 18:02:33 | sharpe | i've a 5g |
| 18:02:46 | preglow | sharpe: would you mind trying that patch for me? |
| 18:02:52 | sharpe | ah, sure |
| 18:03:06 | preglow | you just need to add a #define HAVE_BACKLIGHT_PWM_FADING to config-ipodvideo.h |
| 18:03:10 | preglow | then you're ready to see if it works |
| 18:03:12 | sharpe | okay |
| 18:03:54 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, the backlight code for 4g seems to imply that it fades the backlight off, is that so? |
| 18:09:26 | preglow | sharpe: any luck? |
| 18:12:19 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes, it does fade out. |
| 18:12:36 | sharpe | eh, had to go do something, patching it now :) |
| 18:12:54 | preglow | linuxstb: what about fade in? |
| 18:13:38 | preglow | so there's no point in making ipod 4g use this code |
| 18:14:30 | linuxstb | I _think_ it's fading in. But very quickly. |
| 18:14:58 | Mikachu | preglow: i agree |
| 18:16:00 | preglow | linuxstb: tried tweaking the value it uses around? |
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| 18:19:35 | linuxstb | preglow: No, I haven't played with it. And I don't have time now. |
| 18:21:47 | davinci | hello! I still have problems with copiling (../tools/configure: line 1020: m68k-elf-gcc: command not found). Reinstalling (this package) has no effect. Any idea? |
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| 18:25:33 | linuxstb | lostlogic: Are you sure about this thread? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2978.0 As far as I can tell, the Apple firmware doesn't work any differently if you press hard or soft on the wheel. |
| 18:27:11 | sharpe | preglow: works as far as i can tell |
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| 18:46:31 | Mikachu | linuxstb: i think he means fast, not hard |
| 18:46:57 | Mikachu | but i dunno |
| 18:47:08 | Mikachu | it would be hard to scroll and press at the same time i thnik |
| 18:50:02 | sharpe | i like it how when you cancel the microsoft installer for something, the progress bar reverses, until it's finished cleaning up. |
| 18:50:10 | sharpe | it makes me laugh |
| 18:54:08 | PhR3aK | does the rockbox firmware support gapless playing with all formats (ogg, flac...)? |
| 18:54:14 | PhR3aK | or just with mp3 |
| 18:54:23 | sharpe | i think all formats... i'm not sure |
| 18:54:38 | markun | not with aac |
| 18:54:48 | Mikachu | linuxstb: it seems i've submitted a patch twice by accident, can you close/remove this one? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4720 (same as 3031) |
| 18:54:59 | PhR3aK | ah good i dont think that i will use aac ;) |
| 18:55:04 | sharpe | yeah, but who really uses acc anyway... ;) |
| 18:55:09 | sharpe | aac |
| 18:55:11 | sharpe | blargle |
| 18:55:13 | PhR3aK | ^^ |
| 18:56:01 | sharpe | heh... acc is actually asphalt. |
| 18:56:23 | PhR3aK | jup |
| 18:56:45 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Done. |
| 18:56:50 | Mikachu | thanks |
| 18:57:16 | PhR3aK | can anyone tell how far the bootloader for the x5 is developed? |
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| 18:58:00 | vulcan | hey |
| 18:59:21 | linuxstb | PhR3aK: Read today's IRC logs. From LinusN: "i have enough to build a bootloader" and "all i need now is an application to load" - meaning that the bootloader should be in a working state, but can't be tested until Rockbox itself compiles. |
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| 18:59:57 | PhR3aK | ah ok thx |
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| 19:00:12 | afruff23 | Is devcon iver? |
| 19:00:15 | afruff23 | over* |
| 19:00:27 | Mikachu | yes |
| 19:00:35 | Mikachu | but 90 people still have their browsers open :( |
| 19:00:51 | linuxstb | There wasn't a farewell photo? |
| 19:01:02 | afruff23 | Yeah, I saw that |
| 19:01:10 | afruff23 | but I thought that soemthing went wrong |
| 19:01:20 | afruff23 | with the server or they took a break |
| 19:01:36 | Mikachu | maybe i could have written something more informative |
| 19:02:22 | ep0ch | add some javascript to close the window? |
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| 19:02:37 | ep0ch | ;) |
| 19:02:41 | sharpe | "it's over, you can go now." |
| 19:02:56 | Mikachu | ep0ch: i can't do that, i only control the jpg :) |
| 19:03:19 | vulcan | change the image then |
| 19:03:19 | vulcan | lol |
| 19:03:27 | Mikachu | if someone with access to their webserver could remove the link to me that would be swell |
| 19:03:29 | ep0ch | ohh i;m sure there's a way to put some code in the jpg :) |
| 19:03:37 | Mikachu | ep0ch: not portably :) |
| 19:04:08 | sharpe | depending on the browser, and how the image is included, you can use javascript in it :) |
| 19:04:16 | sharpe | i think it only works for ie though, not sure. |
| 19:04:28 | vulcan | man, mjy ipod battery myst be like totaly dead :X |
| 19:04:38 | vulcan | left it sitting in disk mode over the weekend by accident |
| 19:04:49 | Paprica | Mikachu, what about your pause patch for tetrox? |
| 19:05:06 | Mikachu | Paprica: ah, i'll make a patch |
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| 19:05:25 | Mikachu | Paprica: would it be okay to change the colors too? :) i am used to the colors of another clone, and only 3 pieces have the 'wrong' color |
| 19:05:26 | Paprica | ok, could you upload it to the tracker? |
| 19:05:35 | Paprica | mm |
| 19:05:37 | Paprica | ok |
| 19:05:41 | Paprica | change it |
| 19:05:45 | Mikachu | hooray |
| 19:05:47 | Paprica | but in another patch |
| 19:05:50 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 19:06:07 | Paprica | thanks |
| 19:07:02 | Paprica | do you think that menu for tetrox will be useful? |
| 19:07:26 | Mikachu | maybe, for viewing highscores, changing between scroll-turning or not... maybe something else |
| 19:07:34 | Mikachu | it would be nice to start at a higher level |
| 19:07:37 | Mikachu | so a setting for that too |
| 19:08:07 | afruff23 | does rockbox write USB mode code? or does the player just use the old one? |
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| 19:09:16 | | Join f13 [0] (n=me@fedora/ender) |
| 19:09:58 | f13 | hey all, I'm having a bit of trouble getting rockbox on my ipod. (I'm using Linux to do this). The rockbox.bin generated by ipod_fw ends up larger (by 3 megs) than the boot partition itself (and hte bootloader.bin file) |
| 19:10:29 | vulcan | hmmm, no access to a windows system? |
| 19:11:03 | f13 | nope. |
| 19:11:07 | f13 | well, not for a while. |
| 19:11:14 | safetydan | afruff23, currently all targets have hardware to handle USB so rockbox doesn't have to do anything yet |
| 19:11:22 | preglow | why the hell did my last commit mail contain an attachment? |
| 19:11:56 | vulcan | f13: what ipod do you have? |
| 19:12:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | f13: The rockbox.bin should not be any larger than the original bootpartition.bin that you extracted. It should be somewhat larger than the apple_os.bin that you extracted from bootpartition.bin though |
| 19:12:16 | Mikachu | Paprica: 4851 |
| 19:12:51 | f13 | vulcan: 4g |
| 19:13:03 | f13 | Paul_The_Nerd: I know it isn't supposed to be, but ipod_fw seems to be not working right. |
| 19:13:32 | vulcan | I can't realy help you out then... sorry. |
| 19:14:44 | f13 | -rw-r−−r−− 1 root root 40M Mar 19 09:15 bootpartition.bin |
| 19:14:44 | f13 | -rw-r−−r−− 1 root root 43M Mar 19 10:14 rockboot.bin |
| 19:15:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | f13: How big are your bootloader.bin and apple_os.bin? |
| 19:15:35 | f13 | -rw-r−−r−− 1 root root 3.3M Mar 19 10:03 apple_os.bin |
| 19:15:38 | linuxstb | f13: Are you using bootloader.bin or bootpartition.bin in your ipod_fw command-line? |
| 19:16:06 | f13 | hrm. |
| 19:16:10 | f13 | haha, yea I am. Silly me. |
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| 19:17:05 | f13 | ahh. |
| 19:17:09 | f13 | now rockboot.bin is very small. |
| 19:17:20 | vulcan | okay... dumb question. How do I go about using patches? |
| 19:17:22 | sharpe | heh |
| 19:18:15 | sharpe | vulcan: you mean, how to applyeth the patch to thine source codeth? |
| 19:18:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | vulcan: Have you set up the toolchain so you can compile? |
| 19:19:26 | vulcan | no, is there some kind of tutorial I can follow? |
| 19:19:49 | vulcan | notthat it matters right now because my ipod won't turn on' |
| 19:19:50 | vulcan | heh |
| 19:20:09 | sharpe | tis one in the wiki for doing both... |
| 19:20:19 | sharpe | er, two. seperate ones. |
| 19:20:33 | * | f13 tries to figure out how ot use this thing. |
| 19:21:26 | vulcan | okay, I'll to take a look |
| 19:21:27 | ep0ch | anyone know what a "rockbox error -4" is in the bootloader (ipod)? |
| 19:21:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | vulcan: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinInstallWithScreenShots for setting up cygwin |
| 19:21:42 | vulcan | you havent loaded the rockbox files yet f13 |
| 19:21:45 | vulcan | so thats normal |
| 19:22:08 | ep0ch | oh bugger its probably cos i forget to umount |
| 19:22:10 | f13 | vulcan: actually I did. I'm just not seeing the file brwoser. |
| 19:22:20 | f13 | vulcan: I see some plugins and an X next to "Rockbox" |
| 19:22:30 | linuxstb | ep0ch: Yes - it means that the file is corrupt somehow. |
| 19:22:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | f13: Hidden files will be hidden by default |
| 19:22:57 | linuxstb | ep0ch: i.e. read() can't read the number of bytes that the directory entry says are in the file. |
| 19:22:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | f13: If you go into the Menu, you can tell it to show all files, otherwise you'll only see supported files and non-hidden folders. |
| 19:23:28 | preglow | if anyone notices stability problems with my new commits, please tell me |
| 19:23:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | f13: Any music that iTUnes has put on your player will be buried in the ipod control folder |
| 19:24:13 | Mikachu | preglow: did you change anything since the patch? |
| 19:24:23 | f13 | jyeah, I'm adding new ones. |
| 19:24:27 | vulcan | though there is a patch called iplay I belive... reads the itunesDB |
| 19:24:34 | vulcan | or the playslists atleast |
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| 19:25:19 | preglow | Mikachu: some 5g stuff |
| 19:25:27 | sharpe | yay |
| 19:25:39 | Mikachu | okay, that probably won't conflict |
| 19:25:51 | f13 | YaY it worked. |
| 19:25:53 | f13 | thanks guys. |
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| 19:27:12 | GO | There is a very useful piece of information about MPIO HD300's hardware. http://www.hd300.narod.ru/photoalbum.html - photos, http://www.hd300.narod.ru/links.html - documentation. Enjoy! |
| 19:28:33 | | Join vulcan [0] (i=vulcan@69-170-61-47.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 19:29:18 | GO | I think It'll be very useful for anyone who wants to port Rockbox on MPIO. |
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| 19:31:02 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK PhR3aK |
| 19:31:02 | PhR3aK | (afruff23): do you have icq? |
| 19:32:33 | afruff23 | no |
| 19:32:46 | afruff23 | do you post on iaudiophile.net |
| 19:32:52 | PhR3aK | yeah |
| 19:32:56 | afruff23 | me too |
| 19:33:00 | afruff23 | same name there |
| 19:33:05 | PhR3aK | jupp |
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| 19:33:21 | PhR3aK | youre the guy with the same x5 and mx500? ^^ |
| 19:33:25 | afruff23 | you're jupp on those forums? |
| 19:33:29 | afruff23 | yeah |
| 19:33:52 | PhR3aK | no |
| 19:33:54 | LinusN | zis is ze german coast guard, what are you sinking about? |
| 19:33:54 | afruff23 | what's your name on the forums |
| 19:33:55 | PhR3aK | same name |
| 19:33:59 | afruff23 | oh |
| 19:34:13 | PhR3aK | jupp was like yes ;) |
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| 19:35:47 | PhR3aK | i just wanted to ask you how your sound settings on your x5 are ajusted (bbe and so on) |
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| 19:36:37 | afruff23 | I'll check hold on |
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| 19:37:00 | PhR3aK | i'm trying to figure out the best settings for my mx500 atm... thats why i wanted to aks |
| 19:37:10 | afruff23 | everything off except for EQ |
| 19:37:35 | yan | Do you know if there is a possibility to run Rockbox on a 3g ipod? |
| 19:37:38 | afruff23 | THe EQ looks like an inverted dome |
| 19:38:00 | afruff23 | Bass and treble is gained mroe than the mid |
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| 19:38:17 | Mikachu | preglow: if i set the backlight timeout to 1s and fadein to 2s it doesn't come on fully unless i keep scrolling, should i be considered stupid if i do that? |
| 19:39:05 | PhR3aK | k, mine is bbe 3, m3b 7 (because the mx500 dont have this good lows) and 3ds 4 |
| 19:39:22 | afruff23 | Mx500 has bad bass |
| 19:39:25 | safetydan | yan, if iPod Linux runs on the iPod 3g it's possible to get rockbox going as well |
| 19:39:28 | safetydan | but no one's tried |
| 19:39:31 | afruff23 | whcih is why I gained it the most on my EQ |
| 19:40:10 | PhR3aK | yeah... my cx 300 should come next week, i cant await it :) |
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| 19:40:19 | afruff23 | how much? |
| 19:40:23 | afruff23 | I want to get one |
| 19:40:30 | PhR3aK | 38,80 € |
| 19:40:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hmm... some of the links on the menu on the left at rockbox.org don't work any more since the tracker changes from /bugs to /tracker |
| 19:40:31 | afruff23 | but I can't find $40 |
| 19:40:40 | afruff23 | I mean I can't find it for $40 |
| 19:40:44 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:41:01 | PhR3aK | (afruff23): i'm back in 5mins |
| 19:41:06 | afruff23 | I would buy it at $60(like it is now) except I don't like getting ripped off |
| 19:41:25 | yan | safetydan: ipodlinux seems to run on 3g, but I didn't find any firmware for my 3g ipod |
| 19:41:39 | linuxstb | yan: A Rockbox port to the 3g is in CVS - the person working on it hasn't been around for a few weeks, but Rockbox is functioning. |
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| 19:42:55 | linuxstb | yan: It _may_ even have audio playback. I committed a bugfix about a week ago, but no-one has told me if it works or not (I don't have a 3g to test it on). |
| 19:43:03 | yan | linuxstb: Good, and is there any compiled firmware already or not ? |
| 19:43:14 | yan | linuxstb: Or should I compile it myself? |
| 19:43:18 | tucoz | linuxstb, is this correct for the recorders? http://pastebin.com/611032 |
| 19:43:26 | linuxstb | yan: You'll need to compile it yourself. |
| 19:44:05 | tucoz | linuxstb, except I can not use underscore in the \newcommands as LaTeX treats underscores as an operator |
| 19:44:23 | yan | linuxstb: Ok, I must install some ARM compilers |
| 19:44:43 | PhR3aK | hm i've ordered them from a swedisch shop, and i live in germany, sry but i dont know any shops in the usa who ship them under $60 |
| 19:45:16 | linuxstb | tucoz: That seems OK to me. Is LaTeX happy with hyphens in the macro names then? |
| 19:45:44 | tucoz | linuxstb, the options? Like HAVE_LCD_BITMAP ? |
| 19:46:00 | linuxstb | No, I mean your BUTTON-OFF etc macros. |
| 19:46:17 | tucoz | Oh, yes. Let me try again. I think I tried this. |
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| 19:50:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is the battery supposed to display an Icon when charging, even if I have it set to numeric? |
| 19:50:52 | hubbel | New version of the Rockbox VMware image is available.. |
| 19:50:54 | hubbel | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 19:51:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | hubbel: What has changed? |
| 19:51:43 | hubbel | Paul: Added patch, ssh, .. reduced download size.. etc |
| 19:52:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | hubbel: You might want to include notes reminding people to set the BIOS clock in that VM to match their own. |
| 19:52:56 | hubbel | paul: aha.. what is the dpkg-reconfigure command? |
| 19:53:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | hubbel: Umm... I hit F2 while booting to go into the BIOS, and set it there. |
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| 20:01:30 | preglow | hubbel: did you ever test if the uda1380 can do full-duplex? |
| 20:04:50 | hubbel | preglow: yep it can |
| 20:05:12 | hubbel | preglow: where's that vocoder you promised? :) |
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| 20:06:06 | preglow | haha |
| 20:06:11 | preglow | anything special you need to do? |
| 20:07:33 | BHSPitMonkey | aah |
| 20:07:41 | BHSPitMonkey | "Hi, you can close this window now" lol |
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| 20:10:12 | hubbel | preglow: well.. i did the test without caring about pcm playback/recording/codec issues.. |
| 20:10:23 | preglow | yeah, but i'm talking hardware wise |
| 20:10:32 | hubbel | preglow: nope.. dont think so |
| 20:10:35 | preglow | great |
| 20:10:52 | hubbel | preglow: recording uses one dma channel and playback the other |
| 20:10:58 | Febs | What is the volume scale (minimum, maximum) on iPod targets? |
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| 20:11:33 | preglow | depends on the ipod, i think |
| 20:11:49 | preglow | for nano it's -72 to 6 |
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| 20:13:12 | sharpe | for the 5g it's -57 to 6. |
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| 20:21:33 | tucoz | linuxstb, hmm. No hyphens and no digits allowed, it seems |
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| 20:22:50 | tucoz | So, the buttons will be called \BUTTONON, \BUTTONOFF etc. What to do with F1 F2 and F3 ? |
| 20:23:01 | linuxstb | Another option is ButtonOn, ButtonOff etc |
| 20:23:10 | tucoz | yes, that looks better |
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| 20:23:39 | tucoz | ButtonFOne, ButtonFTwo etc? |
| 20:24:12 | linuxstb | It looks ugly, but I can't think of anything better. |
| 20:24:34 | preglow | latex isn't pretty, so it'll fit right in |
| 20:24:40 | tucoz | preglow, :) |
| 20:25:04 | preglow | something just like latex but not based on tex would fit the bill perfectly |
| 20:25:09 | preglow | it's getting too old for its own good |
| 20:25:17 | Mikachu | how's latex 3 going? |
| 20:25:32 | tucoz | exactly, I wonder what that'll be like |
| 20:26:07 | preglow | Mikachu: it isn't |
| 20:26:24 | preglow | latex3 has been in "development" for bloody ages now |
| 20:26:52 | Febs | OK, forgive the incessant questions, but what is the range of bass/treble boost on iPod platforms. |
| 20:27:24 | preglow | that reminds me |
| 20:27:29 | Febs | (eventually I'll compile the sim for iPod targets so that I can check these myself.) |
| 20:27:32 | preglow | treble/bass on nano doesn't even pretend to do what it should |
| 20:27:34 | preglow | it sounds awful |
| 20:27:40 | preglow | it's more a volume boost than anything else |
| 20:28:02 | preglow | is it like that on all ipods, or just this? |
| 20:28:35 | tucoz | Febs, I've got some macros options pending. I'll commit those in a while. Then you can use \opt{SWCODEC}{ equalizer stuff} for instance. |
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| 20:29:30 | vulcan | okay... I'm kind of getting worried now |
| 20:29:32 | preglow | hmm, perhaps there's some subtle effect |
| 20:29:34 | vulcan | my ipod won't turn on at all |
| 20:29:39 | preglow | but damn, it's pretty close to unusable |
| 20:29:48 | preglow | vulcan: keep menu and select pressed until it reboots |
| 20:30:01 | preglow | vulcan: it's 99% probably just stuck in battery idiot mode |
| 20:30:11 | Febs | tucoz, cool. But right now I'm working through settings for volume, bass, treble, etc. which vary by platform anyway. That macro will help a lot though when I get to crossfeed, EQ, etc. |
| 20:30:11 | vulcan | that worked |
| 20:30:13 | vulcan | thankyou |
| 20:30:30 | preglow | vulcan: when you disconnect the usb, that happens sometimes |
| 20:30:44 | vulcan | now I just have the low battery icon... hopefully it will actualy charge now instead of sitting there draining the battery |
| 20:31:48 | tucoz | Febs, nice. |
| 20:32:30 | vulcan | what the heck, the battery is fully charged even |
| 20:32:39 | Febs | How do you want to handle changes. Shall I post them in the patch tracker or e-mail you the diff files? |
| 20:33:18 | tucoz | Febs, just post them on the tracker. I think that's the best solution |
| 20:33:29 | preglow | vulcan: like i said, it was in battery idiot mode |
| 20:33:45 | preglow | vulcan: it sometimes thinks it's got an empty battery when it doesn't |
| 20:33:45 | Febs | Will do. I have to go do some family things, but I'll probably post the first patch for the manual later tonight. |
| 20:33:52 | tucoz | cool :) |
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| 20:36:25 | tucoz | Febs, maybe you could think of the copyright question as well. That is, a lot of people have either directly of indirectly contributed to the manual, but what to write in the copyright statement? |
| 20:37:46 | preglow | is there such a thing as a 32 bit integer wav file? |
| 20:37:54 | Febs | I was thinking about that last night, actually. There is a contributor list at the end of the manual. Perhaps that could list separately the contributors to the manual and the copyright notice could say 'Copyright (c) 2005 by the respective contributors identified on page XX'. |
| 20:37:56 | preglow | i thought 32 bit wavs were always float |
| 20:38:43 | Febs | Disclaimer: this is not legal advice! |
| 20:38:46 | stripwax | I think you can get 24 bit wavs stored (wastefully) as 32 bit. But I'm not sure. |
| 20:38:50 | tucoz | Febs, that's what I've been thinking of as well. |
| 20:38:56 | Febs | OK, gotta run. BBL. |
| 20:38:58 | tucoz | Febs, see you |
| 20:40:03 | stripwax | Yeah. you can get 32bit integer wavs. |
| 20:40:14 | preglow | ahh, it is possible |
| 20:40:20 | stripwax | As well as 32 bit and 64 bit float wavs. |
| 20:41:10 | preglow | sweet moses, it's such a joy to work with sound in windows |
| 20:41:11 | preglow | hhohoh |
| 20:41:41 | stripwax | preglow - what's up? |
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| 20:43:20 | preglow | stripwax: just refurbishing wav.c and aiff.c |
| 20:43:35 | preglow | first to play codepolice for a bit |
| 20:43:38 | preglow | then to make them always use dsp |
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| 20:44:29 | tucoz | What are BUTTON_SELECT and BUTTON_MODE called on the H300? Navi, A-B? |
| 20:46:34 | Paprica | yep |
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| 20:46:39 | tucoz | thanks |
| 20:46:40 | Paprica | button select =navi |
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| 20:48:17 | tucoz | Do Ipod video,color and nano all use IPOD_4G_PAD? |
| 20:49:01 | sharpe | twould seem so? |
| 20:49:48 | tucoz | sharpe, yes. I found out. I had a look in the config-ipodxxx.h files |
| 20:50:02 | sharpe | :) |
| 20:50:31 | PhR3aK | (afruff23): what are your eq settings in detail? |
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| 20:55:30 | richardobrien | hi, got a quick question |
| 20:55:52 | richardobrien | what's keeping the h300 from backlight fading again? |
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| 20:57:18 | tucoz | preglow, I am a bit confused of the ipod buttons. That is, for a manual purpose. Is this ok? http://pastebin.com/611180 |
| 20:58:05 | tucoz | ...or someone else with an ipod |
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| 21:00:55 | tucoz | bbl |
| 21:01:07 | Mikachu | can anyone explain how the dict plugin works? |
| 21:01:27 | preglow | well |
| 21:01:29 | preglow | looks decent to me |
| 21:02:49 | Mikachu | couldn't find it in the manual |
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| 21:04:11 | Guest_940 | hi,anyone there |
| 21:04:16 | Mikachu | ah, found it in the wiki, didn't think to look there |
| 21:04:27 | Guest_940 | how to put rockbox on nano |
| 21:04:30 | Guest_940 | with doom |
| 21:04:58 | tucoz | preglow, thanks |
| 21:05:00 | Mikachu | i don't suppose it supports multibyte encoded text? |
| 21:06:18 | preglow | what does? |
| 21:06:21 | tucoz | Mikachu, have you searched the wiki? I think t0mas wrote that plugin |
| 21:06:21 | Mikachu | dict |
| 21:06:42 | Mikachu | tucoz: yeah i found it, but it mentions files _must_ be sorted alphabetically |
| 21:06:53 | Mikachu | which doesn't really mean anything for characters that aren't alphabetical |
| 21:07:49 | preglow | asciiorder, i believe |
| 21:08:10 | Mikachu | would be fun to have a japanese dictionary |
| 21:08:27 | Mikachu | but maybe it would be better to write a special plugin for edict |
| 21:08:44 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:08:44 | * | t0mas hides behind his keyboard... |
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| 21:12:21 | Mikachu | sigh, rdf2binary doesn't take arguments so i have to guess what i should name the file? :) |
| 21:12:35 | Mikachu | okay, dict.preparsed |
| 21:13:38 | * | t0mas doesn't say anything |
| 21:13:50 | t0mas | I think Zagor wrote that plugin... but he must have put my name above it |
| 21:14:07 | Mikachu | hehe |
| 21:14:30 | Mikachu | i seem to have successfully created the dict files, but since the rb keyboard only lets me enter ascii.. :) |
| 21:14:58 | Mikachu | it's not the same name in dict.c and in rdf2binary.c |
| 21:15:11 | Mikachu | but i guess you're the one named Tomas :) |
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| 21:16:55 | sharpe | hmm |
| 21:17:04 | sharpe | what should i do... |
| 21:17:19 | Mikachu | you could enhance the dict plugin, it needs a lot of work |
| 21:17:22 | Mikachu | :) |
| 21:17:25 | sharpe | what's it do? |
| 21:17:31 | t0mas | at this moment? |
| 21:17:36 | t0mas | nothing usefull... |
| 21:17:37 | sharpe | or, it's purpose? |
| 21:17:44 | Mikachu | look up words in a dictionary |
| 21:17:44 | BHSPitLappy | dictionary... |
| 21:17:54 | sharpe | ... |
| 21:18:06 | crashd | sharpe: take a look at the screen resizing on rockboy for 5g ipods :P |
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| 21:18:15 | sharpe | that was obvious to me, but i never got it to work, so i never really thought it was a dictionary... |
| 21:18:16 | crashd | my eyes started to bleed when i tried to figure the code flow out |
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| 21:18:30 | t0mas | sharpe: take a look at the wiki page |
| 21:18:52 | sharpe | heh... when will i need a dictionary on my ipod... :) |
| 21:18:56 | BHSPitLappy | sharpe: before you look at the screen resizing code on rockboy, look at the key code first :P |
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| 21:19:00 | crashd | heh |
| 21:19:04 | crashd | :o |
| 21:19:15 | BHSPitLappy | and enable combinations and the hold switch |
| 21:19:30 | Mikachu | ah, it only does exact matching too |
| 21:19:55 | sharpe | t0mas: wiki for what? |
| 21:19:58 | Mikachu | sharpe: when you lose your pda :) |
| 21:20:01 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxDictionary |
| 21:20:04 | t0mas | dictionary |
| 21:20:06 | sharpe | i never use my pda anymore... |
| 21:20:37 | Mikachu | ah, the search algo uses binary searching |
| 21:20:42 | Mikachu | that explains the need for sortedness |
| 21:21:20 | crashd | a la predictive texting :) |
| 21:23:15 | sharpe | well... i've an idea... for how things could be indexed... or the like... |
| 21:23:24 | sharpe | similar to what it is aparantly |
| 21:23:27 | sharpe | apparantly |
| 21:23:37 | sharpe | currently. |
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| 21:24:15 | supersun47 | hello |
| 21:24:33 | supersun47 | is anyone here? |
| 21:24:34 | Mikachu | it would be nice to search both ways |
| 21:24:44 | sharpe | what's the other way? |
| 21:25:00 | supersun47 | hey i was wondering if anyone could tell me the keys for rockboy |
| 21:25:01 | Mikachu | i have a japanese->english dictionary, but i'd want to search for english words too |
| 21:25:09 | supersun47 | i have a %G ipod |
| 21:25:14 | supersun47 | 5g ipod |
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| 21:25:41 | supersun47 | can anyone help me out with that |
| 21:26:13 | supersun47 | please? |
| 21:26:16 | sharpe | supersun47: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginRockboy#Keybindings |
| 21:26:58 | sharpe | but, some of those aren't for the video ipod... |
| 21:27:11 | supersun47 | i saw that but i dont think that's for my ipod...cuz i dont know what a record button is...and i dont have a stop button |
| 21:27:15 | crashd | hehe |
| 21:27:20 | crashd | the 5g build needs work supersun47 |
| 21:27:21 | sharpe | :) |
| 21:27:27 | supersun47 | yea exactly so i dont know what to do |
| 21:27:36 | supersun47 | so do i just wait |
| 21:27:38 | Mikachu | either fix it or wait |
| 21:27:39 | crashd | well |
| 21:27:42 | crashd | unless you fix it |
| 21:27:42 | crashd | yes. |
| 21:27:50 | Mikachu | or pay someone |
| 21:27:53 | crashd | heh |
| 21:27:59 | Mikachu | or buy a gameboy |
| 21:27:59 | supersun47 | fixing it involves like advanced work right? |
| 21:28:04 | BoD[away] | :_) |
| 21:28:10 | Mikachu | those are the options we came up with for the other guy who asked |
| 21:28:24 | crashd | somebody will fix it at some point |
| 21:28:24 | supersun47 | ok thank you |
| 21:28:39 | supersun47 | thank you very much |
| 21:29:11 | BoD[away] | hey have you heard about this portable game console that runs linux |
| 21:29:20 | sharpe | gpx? |
| 21:29:21 | BoD[away] | and you can play all sorts of emulators |
| 21:29:23 | BoD[away] | yeah ! |
| 21:29:25 | sharpe | heh |
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| 21:29:28 | BoD[away] | it seems cool |
| 21:29:33 | sharpe | yeah... |
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| 21:29:44 | sharpe | we should port rockbox to it! lol... |
| 21:29:53 | BoD[away] | :) |
| 21:30:06 | Mikachu | i think it's a bit unwieldy |
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| 21:31:16 | PhR3aK | are there any plans that the work on the port for the archos gmini (200/202) will be continued? |
| 21:31:22 | Guest_940 | I put rockbox on my ipod nano |
| 21:31:33 | Guest_940 | it says the next time I reboot rockbox should come |
| 21:31:36 | Guest_940 | but it doesn't |
| 21:31:44 | Guest_940 | how do I reboot exactly? |
| 21:31:51 | sharpe | hold select and menu |
| 21:31:52 | moodelyn | hold select and menu for a few seconds |
| 21:32:37 | Guest_940 | thankls |
| 21:32:44 | Guest_940 | it worked |
| 21:32:51 | preglow | PhR3aK: if someone wants to work on it, sure |
| 21:33:01 | preglow | PhR3aK: there's a huge amount of work left to be done |
| 21:33:04 | Mikachu | preglow: i just saw apples firmware only fades one way |
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| 21:33:21 | preglow | Mikachu: on which unit? |
| 21:33:25 | Mikachu | nano |
| 21:33:50 | Mikachu | you mentioned earlier you thought it looked better :) |
| 21:33:57 | PhR3aK | hm okay i just wanted to know if the work on the gmini port is not completely stopped |
| 21:34:03 | preglow | i mean the fade itself |
| 21:34:14 | preglow | PhR3aK: it is in essence, no one is working on it |
| 21:34:27 | Mikachu | preglow: i think it needs to go slower at the end |
| 21:34:31 | Guest_940 | how do I isntall doom |
| 21:34:37 | PhR3aK | ok thanks |
| 21:34:55 | preglow | Mikachu: i think it needs a non-linear curve |
| 21:35:24 | BoD[away] | hey where do you have to put the .rockbox directory when you use the uisimulator? |
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| 21:35:29 | preglow | Mikachu: fades both ways here |
| 21:35:33 | Mikachu | hm |
| 21:35:33 | preglow | Mikachu: fast fade in, a bit slower out |
| 21:35:36 | sharpe | in /archos/ wouldn't you? |
| 21:36:06 | Mikachu | you're right.. |
| 21:36:12 | Mikachu | but i see why i thought it only faded one way |
| 21:36:29 | Mikachu | first time it turns the backlight off after boot from rockbox' bootloader it turns off without fad |
| 21:36:33 | Mikachu | e |
| 21:36:49 | Guest_940 | what button do I need to press during the boot of the nano to load the original firmware |
| 21:36:50 | BoD[away] | ahh |
| 21:36:56 | Mikachu | Guest_940: menu |
| 21:37:00 | crashd | 05 |
| 21:37:19 | sharpe | hold menu when you boot it until it says it's load the original firmware |
| 21:37:23 | BoD[away] | in "archos" yeah :) but I have an ipod ;) |
| 21:37:29 | sharpe | same dir |
| 21:37:43 | BoD[away] | héhé yeah |
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| 21:40:10 | Guest_940 | thanks |
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| 21:41:42 | sharpe | heheh, what if i tried to implement my own dictionary plugin? :) |
| 21:42:46 | Guest_940 | does anyone know how to put doom on the nano? |
| 21:43:01 | sharpe | if i remember, you have to compile it with the patch... |
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| 21:43:12 | Guest_940 | where can I dfind a free compiler |
| 21:43:23 | BoD[away] | hey |
| 21:43:41 | BoD[away] | when using the ipod 5g uisimulator |
| 21:44:00 | BoD[away] | when i play a song I have a windows error saying that _temp_codec.dll is not a valid dll |
| 21:44:04 | BoD[away] | any idea? |
| 21:44:27 | sharpe | the uisim doesn't like me :( |
| 21:44:34 | Guest_940 | is there an easy way to put the doom game on my nano? |
| 21:44:44 | Guest_940 | that's very complicated |
| 21:44:59 | sharpe | i'm not really sure, i don't have a nano... |
| 21:46:04 | moodelyn | BoD[away]: i had that problem with a sim that someone else built for me, but when i built my own it was fine. i think for some reason the sim i was given was generating codecs for ARM instead of the local PC |
| 21:46:39 | stripwax | Guest_940 - if you want to compile a plugin yourself, you should read the "developer" documentation page at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_developers. But it sounds like you just want an easy way to run Doom. You will have to wait until Doom is officially released, if you don't know how to compile plugins yourself. |
| 21:47:01 | * | t0mas is soooo bored... you just don't want to know |
| 21:47:12 | Guest_940 | OCuld I do what is said here |
| 21:47:12 | Guest_940 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches#Applying_A_Patch |
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| 21:47:17 | Guest_940 | Could* |
| 21:47:28 | BoD[away] | moodelyn: very strange, I built it myself |
| 21:47:36 | * | sharpe is thinking of ideas for another dictionary plugin index idea... |
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| 21:47:53 | felix_net | hi all |
| 21:47:58 | sharpe | hello |
| 21:48:15 | stripwax | Guest_940 - yeah, you *could* do, if you understand what it means and you have a build environment already set up! |
| 21:48:42 | felix_net | any linux users in here, by chance? |
| 21:48:47 | stripwax | yep |
| 21:49:05 | t0mas | sharpe: what's your idea? |
| 21:49:12 | felix_net | excellent- since I installed rockbox on my ipod, i can't mount it |
| 21:49:42 | crashd | umm |
| 21:49:49 | crashd | felix_net: you tried using disk mode on the ipod ? |
| 21:49:52 | Mikachu | you have to start apple or the emergency mode |
| 21:50:03 | sharpe | t0mas: god dude, i'll be back in a little bit. my friend's dad died friday. |
| 21:50:05 | felix_net | i think it's in disk mode. |
| 21:50:06 | crashd | i dont have any trouble with just plugging it in, tbh |
| 21:50:13 | crashd | it jsut reboots to disk mode anywa |
| 21:50:29 | t0mas | sharpe: ouch... you should be with him... |
| 21:50:37 | felix_net | i'm pretty sure its disk mode (grey screen, no backlight, etc.) |
| 21:50:47 | t0mas | (the friend I mean ofcourse) |
| 21:50:58 | crashd | felix_net: and by mount, what do you mean? |
| 21:51:00 | sharpe | t0mas: more like 'her', but her and her sister moved so i really can't, so yeh. |
| 21:51:01 | crashd | like, under linux |
| 21:51:09 | t0mas | sharpe: that sucks... |
| 21:51:30 | felix_net | my default entry mounted /dev/sda2 on /mnt/ipod vfat −− that no longer works |
| 21:51:40 | crashd | ummm |
| 21:51:51 | sharpe | t0mas: yeah... |
| 21:51:53 | BHSPitLappy | felix_net: if the iPod says "Do Not Disconnect" then you're in disk mode, otherwise it's not gonna work. |
| 21:52:00 | crashd | is it maybe being attached as a different device entry in /dev then > |
| 21:52:03 | sharpe | t0mas: was given a month or so to live, but only got a week. |
| 21:52:09 | t0mas | ah shit... |
| 21:52:15 | t0mas | life is just unfair to some people... |
| 21:52:21 | sharpe | yeah... |
| 21:52:23 | BHSPitLappy | felix_net: ls /mnt/dev* |
| 21:52:33 | BHSPitLappy | whoops |
| 21:52:40 | BHSPitLappy | I mean ls /dev/sd* |
| 21:52:42 | BHSPitLappy | :P |
| 21:52:49 | stripwax | heh |
| 21:52:52 | * | BHSPitLappy stops trying. |
| 21:53:26 | felix_net | that's alot of sd*'s |
| 21:53:39 | linuxstb | felix_net: Try "fdisk -l" (as root) |
| 21:53:58 | stripwax | linuxstb - uh? |
| 21:54:10 | stripwax | felix_net - anything reported by dmesg by any chance? |
| 21:54:27 | linuxstb | stripwax: That will list the partition tables from all the disk devices - so you can see the ipod. |
| 21:54:39 | stripwax | linuxstb - neat |
| 21:54:49 | preglow | life unfair to some people? nah, can't possible be true |
| 21:54:51 | felix_net | nothing useful in dmesg, fdisk returns that sda2 has logical and physical partitions |
| 21:55:01 | preglow | it's outright cruel to someone is what it is |
| 21:55:43 | preglow | s/someone/some people/ |
| 21:56:38 | sharpe | well... i don't know what to do now. |
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| 21:57:27 | felix_net | so... any ideas? |
| 21:57:30 | preglow | can't help you there |
| 21:57:41 | linuxstb | felix_net: Does "fdisk -l" list your ipod? |
| 21:58:13 | Mikachu | do ipods use recorder/keyboard.c or player/keyboard.c? |
| 21:58:29 | felix_net | by the looks of it, 2 partitions one empty one, one fat32 |
| 21:58:33 | linuxstb | Everything with a bitmapped LCD uses the files in recorder/ |
| 21:58:36 | Mikachu | okay |
| 21:58:40 | Mikachu | that explains some things :) |
| 21:58:53 | linuxstb | felix_net: So what's the problem? Just mount the fat32 one. |
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| 21:59:21 | preglow | sharpe: handling stuff like that at a distance is never easy |
| 21:59:22 | felix_net | i get the response that /dev/sda2 is not a valid blcok device. |
| 21:59:39 | sharpe | yeah... |
| 21:59:52 | linuxstb | felix_net: But "fdisk -l" is listing /dev/sda as being your ipod? |
| 21:59:57 | sharpe | but i can't really do much to help them right now... |
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| 22:00:03 | preglow | that being the point, yes |
| 22:00:13 | felix_net | "iPod" is not mentioned, but it appears to be my ipod |
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| 22:00:28 | sharpe | never really get to talk to them either, so yeh |
| 22:00:42 | felix_net | the logical and physical ends on the 2nd partition (sda2) is what I think the problem is |
| 22:01:28 | Mikachu | ah great, i can just add japanese characters to the keyboard and it works :) |
| 22:01:55 | midkay | iPod backlight fading!? alright, after all these features that have piled in over the past few days.. now i _have_ to update. :) |
| 22:02:08 | sharpe | midkay, :) |
| 22:02:19 | linuxstb | felix_net: Can you paste the line from "fdisk -l" for /dev/sda2 ? |
| 22:02:22 | Mikachu | is FONT_UI the font i have selected in the UI? |
| 22:02:35 | midkay | Mikachu, yes |
| 22:02:40 | Mikachu | i know that sounds like a stupid question but the comment says /* system proportional font */ |
| 22:02:48 | felix_net | /dev/sda2 6 3648 29262397+ b W95 FAT32 |
| 22:02:48 | felix_net | Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings: |
| 22:02:48 | felix_net | phys=(1023, 254, 63) logical=(3647, 254, 63) |
| 22:02:57 | midkay | if the line beneath is FONT_UI, then the comment is wrong.. :) |
| 22:03:07 | Mikachu | they're on the same line |
| 22:03:09 | Mikachu | FONT_UI, /* system porportional font*/ |
| 22:03:37 | preglow | midkay: send beer! |
| 22:03:45 | Mikachu | i need to use that font to actually see my chars |
| 22:03:52 | midkay | FONT_UI is the user-selected one, so.. the comment is wrong. |
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| 22:04:02 | Mikachu | okay |
| 22:04:19 | midkay | preglow, bah :) |
| 22:04:26 | midkay | preglow, not til i'm sure it works deliciously. |
| 22:04:32 | linuxstb | felix_net: How did you install Rockbox? |
| 22:04:39 | preglow | it does at all but the longest fade times :/ |
| 22:04:55 | midkay | define longest? |
| 22:05:05 | sharpe | longer than longer? |
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| 22:05:06 | Mikachu | 10 seconds i think |
| 22:05:24 | midkay | preglow, btw, why do you need to add the define into the source? why isn't it there already, if it's working fine? |
| 22:06:21 | preglow | midkay: 10 secs is long |
| 22:06:26 | preglow | midkay: what source? |
| 22:06:36 | felix_net | linuxstb: i used the stock rockboot.bin from the website and the rockbox zip |
| 22:06:41 | preglow | midkay: i have only added it for those targets i know it works on |
| 22:06:45 | felix_net | bleeding edge @ the time |
| 22:07:06 | preglow | midkay: i only added that comment so people knew how easy it is to try for their target, 'cause it wasn't easy at all before i fixed it |
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| 22:08:02 | preglow | midkay: got that? |
| 22:08:12 | midkay | preglow, no.. |
| 22:08:16 | midkay | crashed.. weird. |
| 22:08:17 | preglow | midkay: i have only added it for those targets i know it works on |
| 22:08:22 | preglow | midkay: i only added that comment so people knew how easy it is to try for their target, 'cause it wasn't easy at all before i fixed it |
| 22:08:37 | midkay | preglow, so me testing it for the 5G means it'd be confirmed and added in CVS? |
| 22:08:43 | preglow | yes |
| 22:08:48 | midkay | cool. alright. :) |
| 22:08:51 | preglow | it is added for iriver h1xx, ipod nano and ipod 5g |
| 22:08:56 | midkay | trying it now.. got to update my source.. |
| 22:08:56 | sharpe | what are you testing? |
| 22:09:38 | linuxstb | felix_net: There is no rockboot.bin on the website... |
| 22:09:51 | midkay | sharpe, iPod nano/5g backlight fading.. |
| 22:10:12 | sharpe | ah... |
| 22:10:20 | felix_net | oops, i mean the bootloader from the website |
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| 22:10:58 | sharpe | i've tested the patch for the 5g haven't i? |
| 22:11:01 | felix_net | i compiled my rockboot.bin from source |
| 22:11:57 | linuxstb | felix_net: I'm not sure what to suggest. Installing the Rockbox bootloader shouldn't affect the partition table on your ipod - and it sounds like the partition table is broken. |
| 22:12:41 | sharpe | hmm... what to do, what to do... |
| 22:13:22 | felix_net | so i guess i need to try again? |
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| 22:14:54 | midkay | sharpe, *cough* packaged while playing screens, meaning within a zip file, and perhaps the addition of decompression! *cough* |
| 22:14:58 | linuxstb | felix_net: Did you make a backup of your MBR - the "dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.bin count=1" command? |
| 22:15:37 | felix_net | yes |
| 22:15:43 | sharpe | midkay *cough* remember that problem *cough* with the attempted *cough* loading *cough* of the wps? |
| 22:16:07 | midkay | sharpe, *couGH* uuuum... yes? *cough* fix it *cough* *cough* *COUGH!!!* |
| 22:16:09 | linuxstb | felix_net: Just try restoring that - "dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/sda". Then unplug your ipod, and plug it back in. |
| 22:16:14 | felix_net | is it supposed to be this small? |
| 22:16:21 | linuxstb | Yes - just 512 bytes. |
| 22:16:31 | felix_net | ok, hold for a sec |
| 22:16:47 | sharpe | midkay, *cough* i've no idea how to? *cough* |
| 22:17:09 | midkay | sharpe, well then. well then! well. then. ask. :) |
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| 22:17:44 | felix_net | it booted back into rockbox |
| 22:18:12 | linuxstb | OK, now plug it into your computer - your ipod should reboot into disk mode. |
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| 22:18:52 | felix_net | now in disk mode |
| 22:18:52 | sharpe | midkay, lets make the rbz format, with special compression uniqe to rockbox! :) |
| 22:19:02 | Yash | hi there, does anyone have screenshots of rockbox running on ipod? |
| 22:19:08 | Yash | ipod photo or anything? |
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| 22:19:13 | sharpe | check the wps gallery |
| 22:19:15 | sharpe | in the wiki |
| 22:19:19 | Yash | checking |
| 22:19:24 | felix_net | Yash: that's what i'm running now |
| 22:19:25 | sharpe | near the bottom |
| 22:19:29 | midkay | sharpe, um. i thought the problem was loading the WPS, whatever format or compression it was in? :) |
| 22:19:30 | linuxstb | Yash: Just install it yourself... You can easily uninstall if you don't like it. |
| 22:19:35 | Yash | felix_net, cool |
| 22:19:37 | Yash | linuxstb, sure |
| 22:20:10 | sharpe | yeah, it was with loading the wps, but with a compression format already in place, twould be easier to implement once (if) the problem was ever solved. |
| 22:20:13 | felix_net | linuxstb: what's next? |
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| 22:20:28 | linuxstb | felix_net: Is it working? |
| 22:20:36 | Yash | I heard rockbox doesn't require iTunes? I can just dump in songs like I would in any other portable HDD? |
| 22:20:42 | sharpe | yes |
| 22:20:45 | linuxstb | felix_net: Also, did Rockbox boot happilly? |
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| 22:21:01 | Yash | and make folders too ? |
| 22:21:02 | felix_net | i still can't mount, but rockbox booted fine |
| 22:21:03 | sharpe | yeah |
| 22:21:03 | midkay | sharpe, two things.. one, you should definitely get the WPS loading working before you start working on compression or whatnot.. and two, again, we'd probably get tons of questions on "what is an rbz file" and "how do i make one".. :) |
| 22:21:07 | preglow | aiff.c doesn't handle 8 bit files correctly at all... |
| 22:21:17 | PhR3aK | yes it turns your ipod to a ums player |
| 22:21:24 | linuxstb | felix_net: Then I think it's a Linux problem - if Rockbox started, then that means the disk in your ipod is fine. |
| 22:21:30 | sharpe | but then we can make an elaborate faq and point people to it every time they asked :) |
| 22:21:30 | Yash | PhR3aK, ums? |
| 22:21:36 | felix_net | guess its debian |
| 22:21:39 | sharpe | usb mass storage |
| 22:21:47 | Yash | cool |
| 22:21:56 | sharpe | or universal, depending on who says it |
| 22:22:03 | PhR3aK | yeah means that its handled as an usual hdd |
| 22:22:15 | linuxstb | felix_net: I sometimes get USB strangeness (I'm using Debian as well) - a reboot is sometimes needed to get USB working again. |
| 22:22:26 | midkay | sharpe, i don't think the dev team would be too happy about having a proprietary extension.. and, you say compression? how would you open it? :) |
| 22:22:32 | linuxstb | preglow complains about the same thing under Ubuntu IIRC. |
| 22:22:46 | preglow | it's a linux thing |
| 22:22:46 | felix_net | well, then I'm going to reboot, i'll log back in a few minutes. bbl |
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| 22:23:04 | sharpe | midkay, well, it'd be handled by a plugin... |
| 22:23:08 | preglow | are we talking about the battery thing? |
| 22:23:19 | midkay | sharpe, what about creating them i mean? viewing them outside of rockbox? |
| 22:23:26 | Yash | I'm going to try installing rockbox now ;) |
| 22:23:30 | Mmmm | My suse keeps freezing when I transfer data to my Iriver....very annnoying! |
| 22:23:33 | Yash | I hope it doesnt drain the battery out too fast? |
| 22:23:42 | sharpe | mmm... we make a utility to package them :) |
| 22:23:59 | midkay | sharpe, fu, that's too complicated. uncompressed zip!! :) |
| 22:24:05 | sharpe | ;) |
| 22:24:10 | preglow | ahh, right, that |
| 22:24:10 | sharpe | well, we have that then. |
| 22:24:14 | preglow | yeah, that's a linux problem |
| 22:24:18 | preglow | and for me it applies to all usb devices |
| 22:24:44 | Mmmm | ouch! |
| 22:24:56 | PhR3aK | (Yash): why should it? |
| 22:25:19 | Yash | PhR3aK, I was just wondering, so wanted to clear it in my mind, hehe.. sorry if I offended you |
| 22:25:56 | linuxstb | Yash: Yes - shorter battery life is the main disadvantage of Rockbox compared to the Apple firmware. But that can only improve. |
| 22:26:21 | PhR3aK | no i think (i dont really know, ive got no dap with rockbox running) |
| 22:26:34 | linuxstb | But the way I see it is that 7.5 hours of FLAC playback under Rockbox beats zero hours of FLAC under the Apple firmware. |
| 22:26:43 | PhR3aK | hm but a guy on iaudiophile.net said that rockbox could improve battery life |
| 22:26:44 | Yash | true |
| 22:26:46 | midkay | preglow, fading woks perfectly on my 5g.. beautiful. :) (if it was your work: nice job!) |
| 22:27:32 | Yash | cool.. I'll install it now |
| 22:27:33 | Yash | :) |
| 22:27:45 | sharpe | we hath converted another! :) |
| 22:27:50 | preglow | screw the thanks, send beer! |
| 22:28:00 | midkay | preglow, even 10 seconds works 100% fine. it looks a little "steppy", but it's fine. :) |
| 22:28:06 | preglow | yeah, it does look steppy |
| 22:28:09 | preglow | at least towards the end |
| 22:28:16 | preglow | but there's nothing i can do about that |
| 22:28:18 | midkay | preglow, screw the beer, you need to go to alcoholics anonymous. |
| 22:28:20 | preglow | i think, at least |
| 22:28:20 | linuxstb | Only 44 million more ipod users to go... |
| 22:28:28 | sharpe | lol... |
| 22:28:33 | preglow | midkay: i'm not particularily anonymous |
| 22:28:45 | sharpe | yeah. you're 'preglow' |
| 22:29:04 | midkay | preglow, you can be. it's alright! |
| 22:29:18 | preglow | and i regret to inform i haven't got near enough money to drink as often as it'd require to be an alcoholic :/ |
| 22:29:22 | preglow | but i try, goddamnit! |
| 22:29:26 | sharpe | lol |
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| 22:30:01 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 22:30:07 | midkay | :) |
| 22:31:10 | sharpe | midkay, wish to help me find out how to get the wps loading working? |
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| 22:31:30 | midkay | sharpe, i've offered a few times over the past few days. i would indeed have a look.. :) |
| 22:31:33 | felix_net | hi all |
| 22:31:47 | felix_net | turns out a reboot fixed it |
| 22:31:51 | midkay | no guarantees.. infact, almost the opposite of guarantees, but... :) |
| 22:32:05 | sharpe | heh, at least you can't do worse than what i've gotten. |
| 22:32:55 | felix_net | except now that it refuses to un-mount |
| 22:33:10 | midkay | sharpe, i wouldn't be so sure. :) |
| 22:34:06 | Mmmm | solexx, preglow...if I send beer in the post, is it possible you might consider committing the remote support for peakmeter/recording screen patch? :) |
| 22:34:22 | Yash | will i still be able to view photos on my ipod photo after rockbox installation? |
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| 22:34:26 | sharpe | hmm... maybe grepping for 'wps' in everything was not such a good idea. |
| 22:35:29 | linuxstb | Yash: Yes - Rockbox doesn't affect how the Apple firmware works. Also, Rockbox has a very nice JPEG viewer itself. |
| 22:35:36 | Yash | Coool |
| 22:36:53 | Yash | which build should i download? |
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| 22:37:12 | Yash | I'll download the latest one? |
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| 22:37:23 | webguest94 | Hi, I have a question about file sorting |
| 22:38:22 | tucoz | shoot |
| 22:38:58 | webguest94 | I noticed with my Archos Jokebox Recorder 20 that the software could only sort on the first 42 characters in the filename. So all identifying info−−artist, title, track #−−had to be in those 42 characters. Does Rockbox improve on that? |
| 22:39:12 | crashd | evening chaps |
| 22:40:29 | tucoz | webguest94, I would assume yes, but maybe someone else could confirm? |
| 22:41:14 | webguest94 | I just re-ripped my collection and I'd hate to have to truncate everything again to be able to have it in order |
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| 22:44:00 | tucoz | Anyone know the file-length limit in Rockbox? |
| 22:44:30 | Yash | Rockbox installed perfect, but I don't see color on the menu, any idea why? |
| 22:45:17 | linuxstb | You can change the colours in the settings. |
| 22:45:29 | linuxstb | Default is just black on a very light blue. |
| 22:45:44 | tucoz | webguest94, on the feature comparison chart it says rockbox have 260 chars filename limit |
| 22:45:47 | linuxstb | tucoz: MAX_PATH is 260 bytes |
| 22:45:53 | Yash | true, how do i exit sudoku, lol, i'm stuck there |
| 22:46:04 | linuxstb | SHIFT+MENU exits most plugins |
| 22:46:08 | tucoz | linuxstb, thanks. Do you have an answer for webguest94 ? |
| 22:46:24 | webguest94 | well, 260 is a bit of an improvement over 42 hehehehe |
| 22:46:28 | Yash | shift + menu? there's no shift on an ipod |
| 22:46:29 | linuxstb | Yash: You may want to read this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 22:46:39 | linuxstb | :) Sorry, I mean SELECT (the centre button) |
| 22:46:48 | webguest94 | oh I misunderstood |
| 22:46:51 | Yash | gotcha! thanks buddy, i'll read the FAQ |
| 22:47:04 | linuxstb | webguest94: But yes, Rockbox should use all 260 characters when sorting. |
| 22:47:18 | Mikachu | does PATH_MAX not include the path to the file too? |
| 22:47:20 | tucoz | webguest94, you should give Rockbox a try either way. Have a look at this page for feature comparison. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison |
| 22:47:29 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Good point... |
| 22:47:44 | webguest94 | I saw that one. I'm very interested... was never happy with the Archos software |
| 22:48:16 | tucoz | webguest94, so, it's 260 chars including the path to the file. |
| 22:48:18 | webguest94 | I guess, as long as I don't have an insane number of nested directories, I should be fine |
| 22:48:24 | tucoz | yes |
| 22:48:25 | linuxstb | webguest94: If you have problems with the maximum length of files, you can always compile your own version, and extend the limit. |
| 22:48:44 | crashd | urgh |
| 22:48:49 | crashd | has anyone had any trouble removing a cygwin install ? |
| 22:48:56 | webguest94 | I have not the programming skill. |
| 22:48:57 | crashd | i need to install it elsewhere and want to delete this old copy |
| 22:49:08 | Mikachu | crashd: so just delete the dir? |
| 22:49:08 | Yash | linuxstb, i read it, thanks.. also, I change the theme, it just looks the same, no changes |
| 22:49:12 | crashd | Mikachu: no deal |
| 22:49:14 | Mikachu | i thought it was pretty self contained |
| 22:49:14 | crashd | access denied ;\ |
| 22:49:17 | sharpe | lol... |
| 22:49:24 | crashd | for some reason the symlinks and some of the binary files are weirded out in perms |
| 22:49:26 | Mikachu | crashd: sure you've exited all cygwin processes? |
| 22:49:31 | crashd | sure |
| 22:49:42 | Mikachu | windows sucks with deleting files, sometimes you just can't |
| 22:49:50 | webguest94 | Anyway, I keep everything divided by genre. Only two levels at most. |
| 22:50:23 | crashd | yeah |
| 22:50:28 | crashd | well, it shouldnt be this retarded ;\ |
| 22:50:59 | webguest94 | I'm also considering putting in a larger hard drive... anybody try that with Rockbox? |
| 22:51:30 | linuxstb | Yes, lots of people have upgraded their hard drive. Rockbox has no problems with them. |
| 22:52:00 | webguest94 | great. |
| 22:52:37 | Mmmm | crashd: when I used windows I used a program called unlocker to delete files...always did the trick! |
| 22:53:08 | webguest94 | Thanks for all your help. Looking forward to trying it. |
| 22:53:10 | crashd | ill give it a spin |
| 22:53:15 | crashd | ive tried a few random deleters |
| 22:53:32 | Yash | where can I download themes from? |
| 22:53:38 | Mikachu | woot+5 |
| 22:53:52 | Mikachu | i added hiragana to the keyboard entry and changed to linear search, and it found my entry :) |
| 22:53:55 | webguest94 | l8r all |
| 22:54:14 | Mikachu | (all of this is hacks so far) |
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| 22:55:13 | linuxstb | Yash: The WPSGallery wiki page, or try this forum thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2589.0 |
| 22:55:35 | Mikachu | what is the stb in your nick? |
| 22:55:45 | linuxstb | Yash: Sorry, WpsGallery - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 22:56:04 | Yash | cool beans, thanks linuxstb, you're 'very' helpful.. i appreciate all your help |
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| 22:56:31 | Yash | none of them are for the photo ipod tho :/ |
| 22:56:56 | preglow | hrm |
| 22:57:22 | preglow | it would rock if the playback file loader could somehow guarantee alignment for content :> |
| 22:57:34 | preglow | i'm tired of reading uncompressed data byte per byte |
| 22:58:05 | linuxstb | Mikachu: set-top box It's an old project I was involved with..... |
| 22:58:14 | Mikachu | ah |
| 22:59:23 | linuxstb | It became my username at Sourceforge, then I joined Rockbox with the name (back when Rockbox used Sourceforge for everything), and it followed me to IRC. |
| 22:59:52 | Mikachu | my curiosity finally made me ask :) |
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| 23:00:20 | sharpe | i keep thinking it's 'std' |
| 23:00:22 | Mikachu | now i just need to make the dict plugin make an index of matches and display all of them instead of just the first... |
| 23:00:23 | sharpe | for standard... |
| 23:00:31 | Mikachu | or sexually transmittable disease |
| 23:00:44 | sharpe | yeah, but linux isn't that |
| 23:03:22 | moodelyn | is there a limit on the lenght of a theme or wps name? getting really weird behaviour in the sim that seems to go away after i rename my theme/wps to something shorter ("Nudel Green 5GAA" works but "Nudel Green 5G Album Art" means seleting the theme is often ignored, or i get the backdrop but none of the text in the WPS) |
| 23:05:50 | linuxstb | Yes, I it's 20 characters for filenames stored in the settings. |
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| 23:06:16 | moodelyn | ah ok :) that was very confusing for a moment |
| 23:07:29 | Yash | why are songs skipping in rockbox? |
| 23:07:45 | moodelyn | on ipod? turn off the equaliser and it should fix it |
| 23:07:56 | Yash | ahh |
| 23:08:04 | moodelyn | there's not enough CPU right now with some music formats (esp. mp3)/EQ settings |
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| 23:09:10 | Yash | yup, that fixed it, coool |
| 23:09:20 | Yash | im loving every moment of rockbox yet :) |
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| 23:09:43 | linuxstb | preglow: Is there any room for optimisation in the EQ on iPod, or do we need to look at the codecs? |
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| 23:10:01 | Mikachu | do all ipods have two cpus or only nano and video? |
| 23:10:03 | Yash | any idea when the battery meter will work on photo ipods? |
| 23:10:17 | moodelyn | apparently all of them do Mikachu, even the first generation ones |
| 23:10:22 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Every ipod - going back to the first generation. |
| 23:10:29 | Mikachu | okay |
| 23:10:59 | * | moodelyn wonders when someone's going to write a SETI client for rockbox :) |
| 23:11:08 | Mikachu | haha |
| 23:11:18 | sharpe | right after we get the networking functionality :) |
| 23:11:26 | linuxstb | And ever-lasting batteries... |
| 23:11:40 | sharpe | heh, 'seti-on-the-go' |
| 23:12:09 | moodelyn | hmm, do i need to remove the clock patch i installed before i update from cvs, or will the update be identical to teh patch and cvs will work it all out for me? |
| 23:12:13 | muesli__ | Paprica watching baby tv every day? ;-)) |
| 23:12:18 | Yash | Its still skipping, I made the Enable EQ to NO |
| 23:12:27 | Yash | it skips in the beginning and then smoothens up |
| 23:12:35 | Mikachu | moodelyn: copy the file first to be safe |
| 23:12:51 | linuxstb | Yash: What kind of files are you playing? |
| 23:12:59 | Yash | mp3 |
| 23:13:04 | Mikachu | moodelyn: or you can just delete it and update if you haven't made any changes yourself |
| 23:13:05 | | Part tucoz ("Leaving") |
| 23:13:09 | moodelyn | bugger, i deleted the .patch file and it's not in flyspray anymore... oops |
| 23:13:10 | Mikachu | moodelyn: and it will be redownloaded |
| 23:13:29 | moodelyn | i've got some other patches installed... might just delete everything and re-patch. easier i guess |
| 23:13:35 | Yash | linuxstb: I'm playing .mp3 files |
| 23:13:42 | linuxstb | Yash: What bitrate? |
| 23:13:54 | Yash | 128 |
| 23:13:55 | Mikachu | moodelyn: oh, i thought you meant for the clock plugin which is just one file |
| 23:14:00 | moodelyn | Yash do you have the peekmeter being displayed on the while-playing screen? |
| 23:14:10 | Mikachu | Yash: try just going out to the menu |
| 23:14:32 | Yash | moodelyn, yes, peekmeter is on |
| 23:14:35 | Yash | Mikachu, no luck |
| 23:14:47 | moodelyn | peekmeter causes skipping as well i think, at the moment |
| 23:15:15 | Yash | where do I disable that from? |
| 23:15:24 | linuxstb | Choose a different theme/wps file. |
| 23:15:34 | Yash | okie |
| 23:15:37 | linuxstb | But I'm surprised Rockbox can't handle 128kbps files and the peakmeter. |
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| 23:16:18 | Yash | also, when will the battery indicator start working for photo ipod or any in general as i read its still being worked upon |
| 23:17:04 | Yash | changing the theme worked fine, no skipping anymore |
| 23:18:34 | Mikachu | hm, i thought the peakmeter didn't take any power when not visible |
| 23:19:21 | Yash | no idea about the battery? |
| 23:19:42 | Yash | also, whats voice? |
| 23:20:11 | Mikachu | spoken menus and stuff |
| 23:20:18 | Yash | oh, coooool |
| 23:20:26 | Mikachu | mostly if you happen to be blind i guess |
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| 23:21:27 | * | amiconn is back |
| 23:21:40 | * | muesli__ cheers @ amiconn |
| 23:22:09 | muesli__ | back in berlin? |
| 23:22:26 | amiconn | yup |
| 23:22:37 | muesli__ | wow..ur fast ;) |
| 23:22:43 | ohrn | I've just hit a weird bug |
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| 23:22:53 | BoD[away] | Hey I have a question |
| 23:22:58 | ohrn | if I try to bot into the original firmware on my H300 it instantly turns off |
| 23:23:20 | BoD[away] | on my ipod (don't know if it's the same with other targets), the voume is indicated in "db" |
| 23:23:21 | ohrn | the only way I can get into to the original firmware right now it to attach the charger |
| 23:23:29 | BoD[away] | 0db is the max volume |
| 23:23:43 | amiconn | ohrn: You have to hold Play for some seconds to give the original firmware a chance to see it's pressed |
| 23:23:47 | BoD[away] | is there a way to use another unit ... one with 0 being the lowest volume? :) |
| 23:23:49 | ohrn | it used to work properly before, just hold rec |
| 23:23:52 | sharpe | yeah, everytime the firmware boots up, it and rockbox duel. generally the firmware loses, so that's why it shuts off. |
| 23:23:54 | ohrn | has anyone else seen this? |
| 23:23:56 | amiconn | Original H300 firmware is slow... |
| 23:24:13 | Bger | amiconn wb:) |
| 23:24:25 | linuxstb | BoD[away]: No. |
| 23:25:05 | BoD[away] | linuxstb: is it the same with other targets? |
| 23:25:05 | ohrn | amiconn: he, yea, your right |
| 23:25:11 | ohrn | if I keep holding play is boots |
| 23:25:17 | ohrn | I never noticed this before |
| 23:25:23 | Mikachu | BoD[away]: just add 76 to the number and multiply by 1.3157894 :P |
| 23:25:31 | Mikachu | or whatever the lowest db value is on your target |
| 23:25:38 | ohrn | not that I ever use the original firmware anymore |
| 23:25:49 | ohrn | :) |
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| 23:25:57 | Mikachu | that should give you a number between 0 and 100 that doesn't say very much |
| 23:26:15 | BoD[away] | Mikachu: you mean recompile the firmware for that I guess? |
| 23:26:21 | linuxstb | BoD[away]: Yes - that's one of the reasons for the use of a dB value. It's consistent across all Rockbox targets (and with other consumer electronics using dB). |
| 23:26:23 | Bger | and you can train yourself to do quick float math :P |
| 23:26:24 | Mikachu | BoD[away]: no i just meant in your head, but i was joking |
| 23:26:40 | BoD[away] | Mikachu: ahhh :) |
| 23:26:44 | BoD[away] | linuxstb: ok |
| 23:27:09 | BoD[away] | but humm.. am I the only one who finds that it's not 100% "user friendly" ? ;) |
| 23:27:25 | ohrn | I just tried out the backlight fading patch checked in by Thom |
| 23:27:30 | ohrn | but its an instant crash on H300 |
| 23:27:55 | Bger | ohrn it's supposed to work on ipods and iriver h1x0 .. |
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| 23:28:43 | ohrn | well, the code has a bunch of ifdefs and code to handle a H300 |
| 23:28:44 | Bger | BoD[away] really, it's just a matter of habbit |
| 23:29:00 | BoD[away] | I guess |
| 23:29:27 | ohrn | but obviously it doesnt work yet |
| 23:29:42 | amiconn | Backlight fading isn't supposed to work on H300 |
| 23:29:49 | ohrn | k |
| 23:30:21 | Bger |
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