| 00:00:07 | Bagder | I am and have fiddled with the script |
| 00:00:19 | t0mas | also the output one |
| 00:00:55 | sharpe | yay |
| 00:01:04 | sharpe | my memory is in general, good |
| 00:01:15 | t0mas | Bagder: what are those serv- logs? |
| 00:01:18 | Bagder | t0mas: I did a different approach |
| 00:01:31 | t0mas | yeah, I saw you enabled all debugging in the script |
| 00:01:33 | Bagder | I copy the dbglog file at the end of the round |
| 00:01:34 | t0mas | but I wanted a backlog... |
| 00:01:39 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 00:02:05 | ThommyRocky | should i be right, that theres no IPOD 5g WPS SIM? |
| 00:02:19 | Bagder | the serv- files are the HTML files that are the rightmost link of each line in the cvs build table |
| 00:02:26 | t0mas | yeah, I see |
| 00:02:43 | Bagder | ThommyRocky: sure is |
| 00:03:20 | ThommyRocky | where to find it? |
| 00:03:32 | Bagder | you build it from source |
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| 00:04:49 | ThommyRocky | no idea how to do this ... Iam a stupid boy |
| 00:04:59 | Bagder | there are lots of docs on the site |
| 00:05:06 | t0mas | Bagder: now wait for the next failure... |
| 00:05:10 | t0mas | and checkout all the logs we have |
| 00:05:11 | ThommyRocky | will have a log on it |
| 00:05:26 | Bagder | t0mas: yeps |
| 00:05:40 | t0mas | that failing line... |
| 00:05:46 | t0mas | that looks like massive connection trouble |
| 00:05:52 | t0mas | 6 servers working out of 10... |
| 00:05:58 | Bagder | yes, people say the site had trouble during the day |
| 00:06:00 | t0mas | lots of connections dropped during build |
| 00:06:20 | t0mas | are you editing buildmaster.pl ? |
| 00:06:32 | t0mas | or can I edit some little things? |
| 00:06:33 | Bagder | yes, but you can do it now |
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| 00:06:59 | Bagder | we got two more servers tonight |
| 00:08:00 | t0mas | ok |
| 00:08:22 | t0mas | quick perl question... can I get a reference to a @builds item? |
| 00:08:32 | t0mas | and change the line back to the original if it failed? |
| 00:08:51 | preglow | get a reference to an item? |
| 00:08:55 | t0mas | jup |
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| 00:08:58 | preglow | \$builds[wtf] ? |
| 00:09:02 | t0mas | ok |
| 00:09:13 | preglow | i haven't coded perl for ages, but that should be it |
| 00:09:21 | Bagder | that sounds like a weird way to do it |
| 00:09:36 | t0mas | yeah, maybe it wasn't the right question |
| 00:09:44 | Bagder | I would make a copy of the array and alter that |
| 00:09:53 | t0mas | no |
| 00:09:57 | t0mas | can't do that... |
| 00:10:09 | t0mas | if I mark a build as done in a copy, how would the other threads now it's done? :) |
| 00:10:18 | t0mas | s/now/know |
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| 00:11:02 | preglow | what does the @builds array contain? |
| 00:11:12 | t0mas | all build targets we have |
| 00:11:23 | preglow | right |
| 00:11:24 | Bagder | well the @builds array should not be modified I think |
| 00:11:29 | Bagder | but another array could be |
| 00:11:38 | t0mas | it is modified right now... |
| 00:12:26 | preglow | i'd just make a copy of it and pop stuff off of it when each target's done, and mark the entry as busy if it's in processing |
| 00:12:47 | t0mas | there was something special with return values in perl right? |
| 00:12:48 | ThommyRocky | iam confused with build up a sim for win :/ |
| 00:13:03 | Bagder | t0mas: not that I can think of |
| 00:13:39 | preglow | nothing special about return values |
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| 00:16:51 | Bagder | t0mas: if you removed my mv dbglog you should put back your update.sh fix |
| 00:17:06 | t0mas | ok |
| 00:17:22 | Bagder | I used my way since it allows tail -f better |
| 00:17:33 | preglow | night |
| 00:17:39 | t0mas | hmz |
| 00:17:43 | t0mas | true |
| 00:17:46 | Bagder | DST tomorrow |
| 00:17:55 | Bagder | time to sleep |
| 00:18:00 | t0mas | wait 1 min |
| 00:18:04 | Bagder | sure |
| 00:18:12 | t0mas | take a look at buildmaster.pl |
| 00:18:14 | t0mas | line 280 |
| 00:18:17 | t0mas | (around there) |
| 00:18:29 | t0mas | I've added special return value 2 to the buildremote function |
| 00:18:33 | t0mas | for SSH error's |
| 00:18:46 | t0mas | if that happens, it should restore the buildline... so that makes a rebuild |
| 00:19:10 | t0mas | but it's 0:19... I've been running all day... and I've drunk a little to much during dinner :) |
| 00:19:13 | t0mas | so please check it :P |
| 00:19:15 | Bagder | buildremote never rerturns 2 since if exitcode != 0 it returns 1 |
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| 00:19:28 | t0mas | true |
| 00:19:31 | t0mas | wrong order |
| 00:19:34 | t0mas | that's what I mean ;) |
| 00:19:39 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 00:19:54 | t0mas | shall I fix it? or have you already done it? |
| 00:20:03 | Bagder | you fix |
| 00:20:07 | t0mas | k |
| 00:20:14 | amiconn | wavplay now plays 16 bit wav files with all common samplerates, mono and stereo :) |
| 00:20:31 | ThommyRocky | who need wav ;D? |
| 00:20:31 | Bagder | rocking! |
| 00:20:48 | amiconn | Stopping is also possible |
| 00:20:50 | t0mas | ok |
| 00:20:53 | t0mas | building now :) |
| 00:21:15 | amiconn | Only one major thing missing: restore MAS status |
| 00:21:39 | t0mas | Bagder? can you kill one server for me? :) |
| 00:21:50 | t0mas | just make iptables drop traffic to Linus or something |
| 00:21:55 | Bagder | there was a problem in the last round anyway |
| 00:24:37 | t0mas | hmz... that 1 statuscode isn't enough |
| 00:24:52 | t0mas | we need to find out what formula ssh uses to return statuscodes from commands... |
| 00:25:12 | t0mas | so we can determine on what codes there is a ssh problem, and on what codes it's a build problem |
| 00:25:22 | Bagder | "ssh exits with the exit status of the remote command or with 255 if an error occurred." |
| 00:25:41 | t0mas | not your version |
| 00:26:03 | t0mas | I got exit code 1 on connection error for example... |
| 00:26:11 | Bagder | it still says so |
| 00:26:17 | t0mas | and -1 now, when I killed some random sshd process |
| 00:26:19 | t0mas | at a server |
| 00:26:43 | Mikachu | i'm pretty sure shell return codes can only be 0-255 |
| 00:26:53 | Bagder | but why do you need to know the error reason? |
| 00:27:04 | Bagder | should just about all of them cause a rebuild by another serveR? |
| 00:27:09 | t0mas | no |
| 00:27:26 | t0mas | we have two types of errors... |
| 00:27:37 | t0mas | 1. errors returned by the build process (no need to rebuild) |
| 00:27:56 | t0mas | 2. SSH connection errors (need to rebuild) |
| 00:28:01 | Bagder | what errors does this detect for case 1? |
| 00:28:08 | Bagder | I don't see it |
| 00:28:21 | t0mas | it returns the exit code form the running command... |
| 00:28:31 | Bagder | ah, acbuild |
| 00:28:40 | t0mas | yeah, but we get some strange results |
| 00:28:43 | t0mas | like this one: SSH failed code: -1. |
| 00:29:42 | t0mas | Warning: rbclient@ihme.org had builderrors, SSH failed code: -1. |
| 00:29:42 | t0mas | Warning: rbclient@amiconn.dyndns.org had builderrors in build-ipodnano |
| 00:29:42 | t0mas | Warning: rbclient@obliviator.campus.luth.se had builderrors, SSH failed code: -1. |
| 00:29:45 | t0mas | Warning: rbclient@thestaticvoid.org had builderrors, SSH failed code: -1. |
| 00:29:51 | t0mas | the first one is mine... killed sshd there, just to test |
| 00:29:56 | t0mas | the other 3 are real warnings |
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| 00:31:29 | Bagder | so we need a better way to actual detect build errors |
| 00:31:36 | Bagder | and treat everything else as ssh errors |
| 00:31:42 | t0mas | jup |
| 00:32:04 | Bagder | we should really remake the system slightly to not rely to much on a local acbuild.pl script |
| 00:32:12 | Bagder | so much |
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| 00:32:22 | Bagder | since it makes it very awkward to modify |
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| 00:33:17 | t0mas | yeah |
| 00:33:30 | t0mas | but sending all commands is difficult too... |
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| 00:34:16 | t0mas | really bed time now :) |
| 00:34:31 | Bagder | but we could make a system that re-distributes acbuild.pl |
| 00:34:35 | t0mas | some people decided to take 1 hour of my night... somewhere around 02:00 |
| 00:34:43 | Bagder | if only the local configs isn't edited within the file |
| 00:34:47 | t0mas | jup |
| 00:34:51 | t0mas | add a simple config file... |
| 00:34:59 | t0mas | path = ""; |
| 00:34:59 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:35:01 | t0mas | ccache = true; |
| 00:35:11 | Bagder | plain perl |
| 00:35:16 | Bagder | and then just require the config file |
| 00:35:26 | Bagder | $ccache = 1; |
| 00:35:49 | t0mas | ok |
| 00:36:07 | sharpe | hmm... mkdir takes only absolute paths right? |
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| 00:36:17 | t0mas | good night |
| 00:36:21 | Bagder | t0mas: night! |
| 00:36:35 | * | t0mas turns of his phone... pc... pda... and alarm clock... |
| 00:36:43 | t0mas | sunday morning is gonna last loooong |
| 00:37:17 | Kohlrabi | <sharpe> hmm... mkdir takes only absolute paths right? | you mean you always have to append the whole path like 'mkdir /home/me/foo'? |
| 00:37:17 | Bagder | you youngster you ;-) |
| 00:37:44 | sharpe | i knew that already... |
| 00:38:14 | sharpe | and i mean rockbox mkdir, not mkdir as in the command. |
| 00:38:23 | t0mas | Bagder: I bet you have to get up to feed you kid etc? ;) |
| 00:38:29 | Bagder | oh yes |
| 00:38:36 | Bagder | 07:00 rise and shine |
| 00:38:50 | t0mas | pfew |
| 00:39:12 | * | t0mas grins |
| 00:39:33 | t0mas | kids can wait like 15 more years... |
| 00:40:04 | Bagder | and by an accident, I'm more than 15 years older than you ;-) |
| 00:40:17 | t0mas | jup |
| 00:41:01 | t0mas | you looked younger than 33 at the devcon pictures... |
| 00:41:03 | Bagder | crappy showbuilds script bugs |
| 00:41:12 | Bagder | I'm 35 |
| 00:41:15 | t0mas | but maybe that's because you were next to Linus |
| 00:41:23 | Bagder | haha |
| 00:41:25 | * | t0mas grins... and runs :P |
| 00:41:38 | t0mas | night |
| 00:41:39 | Bagder | ooold grandpa Linus |
| 00:41:53 | t0mas | well... at least he couldn't have been my dad |
| 00:42:00 | t0mas | that sounds so horribly old :P |
| 00:42:11 | Bagder | hehehe |
| 00:47:55 | amiconn | old men at devcon.. :) |
| 00:52:34 | sharpe | ouch... think i just cut my tongue :( |
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| 00:53:16 | sharpe | mkdir() does not seem to be creating directories... |
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| 01:06:30 | ThommyRocky2 | one q: if i Use i Irrive WPS on Ipod it dosnt shows the Background only bg.bmp| (in the background) where is the problem? |
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| 04:18:50 | * | scottder is just so happy he can play ogg vorbis on his Nano now... |
| 04:19:03 | sharpe | myself is sad :( |
| 04:19:14 | scottder | ? |
| 04:19:20 | sharpe | working on a plugin |
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| 04:20:07 | sharpe | trying to figure out an easier way of seperating the file name and the extension from the complete filename |
| 04:20:47 | scottder | I guess the easier answer is regular expressions, but I am betting it;s not that simple |
| 04:20:51 | scottder | :) |
| 04:21:06 | sharpe | what i was trying, but it's like... blah. |
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| 04:22:36 | Kyomi | Hey, isn't the tag for scrolling %s |
| 04:22:36 | Kyomi | ? |
| 04:22:42 | sharpe | ah, think so |
| 04:22:47 | Kyomi | In custom wps |
| 04:22:54 | Kyomi | It said it could be anywhere |
| 04:23:09 | sharpe | yeah, it's %s |
| 04:23:10 | Kyomi | So I'm trying to modify the JoltAmp wps so the song title will scroll |
| 04:23:17 | Kyomi | But it wont scroll |
| 04:23:33 | sharpe | is it larger than the screen? |
| 04:23:40 | Kyomi | Yep |
| 04:23:53 | sharpe | tried putting it at the beginning of the string? : |
| 04:23:54 | sharpe | :) |
| 04:24:00 | Kyomi | yes |
| 04:24:06 | sharpe | couldn't tell you. |
| 04:24:20 | Kyomi | %ac%?it<%it|%?fm<%s%fm|Unknown Track> |
| 04:24:42 | Kyomi | Or should it be before the %it |
| 04:24:57 | sharpe | try having it before the %ac |
| 04:25:37 | Kyomi | Do you know if a %S is anything? |
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| 04:25:50 | sharpe | you mean, a conditional for it? |
| 04:26:03 | Kyomi | nah |
| 04:26:13 | Kyomi | I think I might of put it in there by mistake |
| 04:26:17 | sharpe | it will only scroll of the line is longer than the screen width... |
| 04:27:48 | Kyomi | I know that much :P: |
| 04:27:53 | sharpe | :) |
| 04:28:08 | Kyomi | Do you need to reboot it? |
| 04:28:15 | Kyomi | Or can you just play something? |
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| 04:28:24 | sharpe | reloading the wps you mean? |
| 04:28:31 | Kyomi | Yeah |
| 04:28:34 | sharpe | yeah |
| 04:29:23 | Kyomi | I think I might know the problem |
| 04:29:29 | Kyomi | It's not bigger then the screen |
| 04:29:39 | Kyomi | But it is bigger then the display area that the wps gives it |
| 04:29:59 | Kyomi | How can I get past that part to make it scroll? |
| 04:30:14 | sharpe | yeah, it only scrolls if it's bigger than the screen, not the images behind it... |
| 04:30:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are no "display areas" really. Just the width of the screen. |
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| 04:30:33 | Kyomi | Because I can't see the beginning and end of the song |
| 04:30:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | When viewports are done, then it can scroll after a specific length, but for now, no. |
| 04:30:48 | Kyomi | viewports? |
| 04:31:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | A new method of displaying. It's not due particularly soon, though. ;-) |
| 04:31:27 | Kyomi | Is there a way to take a screenshot to show you? |
| 04:31:42 | sharpe | aye |
| 04:31:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you enable screendump in the debug menu, when you plug in a USB cable it takes a screenie instead of connecting |
| 04:32:16 | Kyomi | k |
| 04:32:55 | sharpe | wheee... |
| 04:33:26 | sharpe | i'm watching lifetime, while working on code! |
| 04:34:04 | Kyomi | Where is the screenshot stored? |
| 04:34:23 | sharpe | root of drive |
| 04:34:31 | Kyomi | hold on a sec :) |
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| 04:35:38 | Kyomi | can I send it to one of you here? |
| 04:35:47 | muesli__ | if somebody needs a helping light... http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lamps6fz.jpg |
| 04:36:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | You could just pots it at one of the many image hosting places |
| 04:36:04 | Kyomi | k |
| 04:36:13 | sharpe | for instance, imageshack... |
| 04:36:16 | sharpe | heh... |
| 04:36:24 | midkay | sharpie! |
| 04:36:37 | sharpe | midkay! |
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| 04:37:17 | midkay | wheeee |
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| 04:38:50 | Kyomi | Alright |
| 04:38:51 | Kyomi | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/caroline7502/Megami/dump050325-214147.jpg |
| 04:38:59 | Kyomi | Thats what I mean |
| 04:39:06 | Kyomi | Is it possible to get that to scroll? |
| 04:39:17 | midkay | %s = scroll... |
| 04:39:29 | Kyomi | I've tried that like..everywhere and it wont scroll |
| 04:39:33 | sharpe | nay, tis not if it's just covered by the image |
| 04:39:48 | Kyomi | argh |
| 04:39:51 | midkay | yeah, is it the very front that's cut off or way more? |
| 04:39:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kyomi: It'll only scroll if the line is longer than the whole screen. |
| 04:40:01 | Kyomi | not the image? |
| 04:40:15 | midkay | quickest way i think would be to simply add a few spaces before the strings.. |
| 04:40:16 | Kyomi | It's probably just barely big enough |
| 04:40:23 | Kyomi | Ig |
| 04:40:24 | Kyomi | Oh |
| 04:40:28 | Kyomi | Other problem |
| 04:40:44 | Kyomi | Is there a way to make the Album : thing line up with the other two? |
| 04:41:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | One more space before the other two doesn't do it? |
| 04:41:09 | midkay | sure, edit it.. remove a space there.. |
| 04:41:18 | midkay | or add one for the other two.. |
| 04:41:46 | Kyomi | %ac%?it<%s%it|%?fm<%fm|Unknown Track> |
| 04:41:52 | Kyomi | Is the %s in the right place? |
| 04:43:03 | Kyomi | Or should it be before %ac? |
| 04:43:07 | carini | .part |
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| 04:43:39 | sharpe | midkay, so far... |
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| 04:44:23 | sharpe | it like, kind of works. |
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| 04:46:05 | midkay | sharpe, cool. |
| 04:46:27 | sharpe | i just need to do... a few things... |
| 04:46:43 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 04:46:51 | sharpe | Hi!! |
| 04:47:17 | Jungti1234 | Did txt viewer support unicode? |
| 04:47:26 | sharpe | I Don't Know!! |
| 04:47:29 | Jungti1234 | ... |
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| 04:47:47 | sharpe | i don't think it does though, not sure. |
| 04:48:55 | Jungti1234 | Many korean speak that it had supported unicode. |
| 04:49:10 | Jungti1234 | I don't think so.... |
| 04:49:34 | midkay | Jungti1234, if you're using a unicode font, it probably does... |
| 04:50:05 | Jungti1234 | really? |
| 04:50:14 | midkay | why not try? |
| 04:51:20 | Jungti1234 | I save and saw it in unicode. |
| 04:51:39 | Jungti1234 | It didn't seem. |
| 04:52:26 | midkay | Jungti1234, what font? |
| 04:52:36 | Jungti1234 | unifont |
| 04:52:37 | Jungti1234 | Then, did Rockbox support unicode in former days? |
| 04:52:51 | midkay | unicode support is rather recent... |
| 04:52:57 | sharpe | don't think it did |
| 04:53:30 | Jungti1234 | I saved it as 'ANSI', and it seem. |
| 04:53:39 | midkay | what kind of question is that? it didn't support unicode, then support was added. if "former days" means "before it supported unicode", then no, it didn't support unicode when it didn't support unicode.. |
| 04:53:56 | midkay | and it began to support unicode after it began to support unicode. |
| 04:53:57 | midkay | :) |
| 04:54:07 | sharpe | such wonderful redundant login :) |
| 04:54:09 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 04:54:10 | sharpe | logic. |
| 04:54:19 | midkay | never mind.. brb. |
| 04:54:39 | Jungti1234 | first again |
| 04:55:01 | Jungti1234 | Did Rockbox viewer support unicode once upon a time? |
| 04:55:37 | Jungti1234 | At short time some. |
| 04:56:11 | Jungti1234 | h |
| 04:56:15 | Jungti1234 | ah... 'Long ago' |
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| 04:56:43 | Jungti1234 | damn |
| 04:56:52 | afruff23 | How do I display the total track time of the NEXT file in the WPS? |
| 04:57:09 | Jungti1234 | English is difficult. |
| 04:58:58 | sharpe | afruff23, you... don't... it would seem. |
| 04:59:44 | afruff23 | yea, I found that wierd as the WPS guide implies that it is not possible |
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| 05:03:58 | afruff23 | the custom WPS guide says "The file may be 2 lines long for the Player, 13 lines for the Recorder and 26 lines for the iriver models (with native Rockbox font)." |
| 05:04:05 | afruff23 | what about the iaudio X5 |
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| 05:04:30 | sharpe | depends on the font |
| 05:04:43 | sharpe | hmm, deja vu |
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| 05:04:51 | afruff23 | default font |
| 05:06:11 | midkay | afruff23, those "limits" are almost pointless.. it all just depends on the font. |
| 05:06:24 | midkay | what fits on the screen, and a bit more.. |
| 05:06:30 | sharpe | midkay, do me a favor |
| 05:06:31 | sharpe | :) |
| 05:06:31 | afruff23 | I just said default font |
| 05:06:40 | midkay | sharpe, no!! .. or... what is it? :) |
| 05:06:49 | midkay | afruff23, why not just _try_ and find out? |
| 05:06:57 | midkay | probably something like the iriver models. |
| 05:07:01 | afruff23 | ok |
| 05:07:20 | midkay | between 23 and 28, i'd say. |
| 05:07:58 | sharpe | heh, midkay, hold on.. |
| 05:08:41 | afruff23 | isn't it wierd that the H3x) has higher res than theHx0 but the guide says they both support 26 lines on the default font |
| 05:08:53 | midkay | afruff23, it's _wrong_. |
| 05:08:54 | afruff23 | H3x0 |
| 05:08:59 | midkay | the h300 has a bigger screen, period. |
| 05:08:59 | afruff23 | H1x0 |
| 05:09:05 | afruff23 | I know that |
| 05:09:06 | midkay | it's inaccurate.. and.. almost pointless. |
| 05:09:15 | afruff23 | Someone should update that |
| 05:09:20 | midkay | feel free. |
| 05:09:47 | afruff23 | I don't know the limits of iRivers using default font though |
| 05:10:09 | midkay | i can do it, i suppose.. |
| 05:10:20 | afruff23 | whcih one? |
| 05:10:29 | afruff23 | H1x0 or H3x0? |
| 05:10:36 | midkay | which one what? |
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| 05:10:47 | afruff23 | I thoguht you were going to test it |
| 05:10:52 | afruff23 | thought* |
| 05:10:54 | midkay | i was going to update the wiki. |
| 05:10:57 | afruff23 | nvm |
| 05:11:00 | midkay | 26 lines == iriver h100, afaik. |
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| 05:11:07 | midkay | == iaudio.. afaik, again. |
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| 05:13:55 | afruff23 | Did anybody ever feel 26 lines are not enough? |
| 05:14:00 | afruff23 | it seems like a lot to me |
| 05:14:37 | midkay | afruff23, if it feels like a lot to you, why would you ask if it were not enough? |
| 05:14:56 | midkay | that's simply all you can fit with the default font. period. use a smaller one, or.. live with it.. |
| 05:15:08 | afruff23 | I'm gaining a foundation before creating a very detailed WPS |
| 05:16:13 | midkay | i'm not sure what you mean by that.. the limit is 26 lines with the default font, that's all that fits.. i don't see how opinions related to the size of the font add to your knowledge of WPS-making.. |
| 05:16:54 | afruff23 | I suspect my WPS may be more than 26, so i need to know whether to use a smaller font or not |
| 05:17:08 | Jungti1234 | Who is JoelPuik? |
| 05:17:14 | afruff23 | or put less info on the screen |
| 05:17:46 | midkay | afruff23, 26 is the number of lines that fit with the default font. the wps itself can be way longer (e.g. loading images..).. |
| 05:18:28 | midkay | 26 seems like a hell of a lot of room, especially with the size of the default font. what could you possibly need more for? plus, we have alternating lines.. scrolling lines.. conditionals.. |
| 05:18:56 | sharpe | for the low low price of 8.99 a month! |
| 05:19:27 | afruff23 | sharpe, what? |
| 05:19:48 | sharpe | joke about 'plus we have...' |
| 05:21:56 | midkay | sharpe, did you want me to try something or what? :) |
| 05:22:07 | sharpe | eh, nah... i may have it now |
| 05:22:47 | sharpe | eh, well, if you want to :) |
| 05:22:49 | afruff23 | also, do scrolling lines scroll even if the info would fit on the screen without scrolling? |
| 05:22:54 | sharpe | nope |
| 05:22:58 | midkay | sharpe, what is it? the plugin? :) |
| 05:23:35 | sharpe | really just something for it, but yeh. seperate a string with filename given, into the name and the extenstion. because i don't feel like doing it. |
| 05:24:10 | midkay | hmm.. |
| 05:24:37 | midkay | i'd check the tree code and stuff.. it somehow does that to figure out what to do with each file based on its extension.. |
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| 05:31:25 | afruff23 | is there anywa to display custom tags in the WPS(i.e. non-standard ID3 V2 tags) |
| 05:32:40 | sharpe | not unless you code it in, nope |
| 05:33:12 | afruff23 | what about color text? |
| 05:33:29 | sharpe | can't do it within the wps... |
| 05:33:45 | afruff23 | then where? |
| 05:34:07 | sharpe | hmm? |
| 05:34:20 | afruff23 | I assume you mean that you can have color text in other places |
| 05:34:23 | afruff23 | right? |
| 05:34:45 | sharpe | it's not up to the wps for the foreground colors, it's the user's settings... |
| 05:35:00 | sharpe | but you'd just have to have a theme that would set them |
| 05:35:08 | afruff23 | so you mean the general settings |
| 05:35:16 | sharpe | mmhmm. |
| 05:38:39 | afruff23 | wouldn't the multifont patch allow them to be changed separately http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4733 |
| 05:39:48 | sharpe | seems like it'd only do the fonts, and not the colors... |
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| 05:49:10 | afruff23 | which players do not have an RTC? |
| 05:51:26 | afruff23 | giw many steps does the volue have? |
| 05:51:32 | afruff23 | voume* |
| 05:52:03 | afruff23 | is there a graphical way to display volume without using many bmps? |
| 05:52:14 | sharpe | use less bitmaps? |
| 05:54:04 | afruff23 | they should've made widgets for volume and EQ |
| 05:54:08 | afruff23 | like the progress bar |
| 05:54:15 | sharpe | heh, you should make them :) |
| 05:54:45 | afruff23 | well, how many steps does the volume have? |
| 05:54:54 | sharpe | depends on the playetr |
| 05:54:56 | sharpe | player |
| 05:55:35 | afruff23 | then how would I do that if it depends on the player? |
| 05:55:43 | afruff23 | The WPS is universal |
| 05:55:46 | midkay | afruff23, why do you need the number? |
| 05:56:01 | afruff23 | Ro now how many pics I eed |
| 05:56:06 | afruff23 | need* |
| 05:56:08 | sharpe | you don't need it for the wps |
| 05:56:11 | midkay | no matter the volume range, 10 is the max number of pics you can use for volume. |
| 05:56:22 | midkay | you can't nearly have one picture for each step. |
| 05:56:25 | Jungti1234 | hey Bagder |
| 05:56:27 | midkay | it |
| 05:56:34 | midkay | it scales for different volume ranges. |
| 05:56:39 | midkay | gotta go, bbiab |
| 05:56:44 | Jungti1234 | hey all |
| 05:57:07 | Jungti1234 | Can't I use Rockbox logo? |
| 05:57:18 | afruff23 | ? |
| 05:57:20 | Jungti1234 | in wikipedia |
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| 05:58:19 | sharpe | woohoo, my ghettofied approach works. |
| 05:59:07 | Jungti1234 | To whom is copyright of Rockbox logo? |
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| 06:04:15 | TiMiD | maybe it's GPLed ... |
| 06:04:24 | sharpe | seems logical. |
| 06:04:41 | Jungti1234 | nonono |
| 06:04:57 | Jungti1234 | I want correct answer. |
| 06:05:05 | Jungti1234 | 'maybe'? no. |
| 06:05:31 | sharpe | it may be public domain. |
| 06:06:56 | TiMiD | since it's included in rb source code tree without specific nitification, it has to be gpl ... |
| 06:07:17 | Jungti1234 | what is 'nitification' |
| 06:07:24 | sharpe | he meant notification |
| 06:08:20 | sharpe | hey midkay, i'm going to have to use a different extension, otherwise it'd get confusing if we get support for zips. |
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| 06:16:29 | Jungti1234 | I want. |
| 06:16:58 | Jungti1234 | Rockbox decides each language standard language. |
| 06:18:16 | Jungti1234 | standard language -> formality name |
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| 06:19:56 | Jungti1234 | and Inform clearly copyright of logo. |
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| 06:22:34 | sharpe | heh. i did not realize for the past thirty minutes i was trying to create a folder before the parent was created... :) |
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| 06:45:42 | midkay | sharpe, what? |
| 06:46:02 | sharpe | the temp dir stuff... |
| 06:46:15 | midkay | <sharpe> hey midkay, i'm going to have to use a different extension, otherwise it'd get confusing if we get support for zips. |
| 06:46:18 | sharpe | oh |
| 06:46:19 | sharpe | yeah. |
| 06:46:26 | midkay | what? |
| 06:46:45 | sharpe | it'd be confusing checking every zip to see if it had a wps in it with the associated bitmaps |
| 06:47:03 | sharpe | so, just use a different extenstion and let another plugin handle it :) |
| 06:48:08 | midkay | i know checking the zip for a WPS is hard. but even if we don't do that, we really shouldn't have a different extension.. |
| 06:48:18 | midkay | at the most, just require the zip to be in the root, i think.. |
| 06:48:23 | midkay | er, WPS. |
| 06:48:58 | midkay | but i also think it would be really cool to look for a WPS (not scan the entire zip, just check a few predetermined paths) so that zips downloaded from the WPS gallery could be used directly. |
| 06:49:01 | sharpe | yeah, but how would we know if one wanted to just extract it, versus extracting it and runnning it? |
| 06:49:03 | midkay | it shouldn't be very hard at all.. |
| 06:49:07 | midkay | ask the user. |
| 06:49:15 | sharpe | :-\ |
| 06:49:27 | midkay | scan the structure.. if found, "load WPS?" (yes or no..) or if not, just.. open. |
| 06:49:35 | sharpe | meh... |
| 06:49:51 | sharpe | ruin my hopes and dreams why don't you. |
| 06:49:55 | midkay | i can tell you that a proprietary extension won't be easily accepted, that's all i have to say.. |
| 06:50:07 | sharpe | it'd be funny though :) |
| 06:50:16 | midkay | confusing, proprietary, pointless.. |
| 06:50:21 | midkay | hassle.. |
| 06:51:30 | midkay | sharpe, having packaged WPS files as zips that simply require the WPS to be in the root is fine.. |
| 06:51:52 | sharpe | :) |
| 06:52:01 | midkay | but i'm just saying, while you're doing that, why not check for a simple few folders as well and expand compatibility greatly so we don't need to start re-uploading new packaged versions.. |
| 06:52:46 | sharpe | right now, extracts bitmaps to respective folder, and the wps and all other files to the main temp folder |
| 06:53:09 | midkay | if a WPS is detected, or what? |
| 06:53:23 | sharpe | right now it's just the plugin to extract and run the wps |
| 06:53:30 | midkay | hm.. |
| 06:53:46 | midkay | well, that will end up in the zip plugin, right? |
| 06:53:53 | sharpe | aye |
| 06:54:42 | midkay | hmm.. then again.. compatibility could become a nightmare.. |
| 06:56:19 | midkay | alright, i think having only one loading system for now is the best thing to do.. |
| 06:57:09 | sharpe | hmm? |
| 06:57:24 | midkay | simply a WPS in the root and a folder with the WPS' name also in the root which has the bitmaps.. consistent with the normal wps creation/loading and simple.. |
| 06:57:55 | midkay | e.g. "blah" as a wps: only scan for blah.wps in the root, and a folder blah/ if it exists... and extract only those to /.rockbox/temp? |
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| 06:58:14 | sharpe | actually, it's more like /.rockbox/wpspkg/ |
| 06:58:17 | sharpe | ;) |
| 06:59:05 | midkay | what? |
| 06:59:15 | midkay | i don't mind what the folder is called, but it shouldn't change per-wps.. |
| 06:59:24 | sharpe | it doesn't |
| 06:59:34 | sharpe | i just decided to go with 'wpspkg' instead of temp |
| 06:59:43 | midkay | ah, sounds good.. |
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| 06:59:53 | sharpe | since, it reflects it's contents |
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| 07:00:24 | midkay | alright.. so what i'd do is merge the wps extractor/executor into the zip plugin.. and make it only look for a standard structure (a WPS in the root and potentially a folder with the same name in root also).. |
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| 07:00:33 | bam_ | morning |
| 07:00:57 | bam_ | anyone using the "voice" files? |
| 07:01:00 | sharpe | midnight for me. |
| 07:01:02 | midkay | sharpe, actually, maybe before you do that you/we should consider a few things.. |
| 07:01:13 | sharpe | what are those things midkay? |
| 07:01:31 | bam_ | any of the dev's in here? |
| 07:01:34 | midkay | sharpe, firstly.. remote/main WPS'.. |
| 07:01:55 | midkay | any WPS file should allow you to load to either remote or main positions.. |
| 07:01:59 | midkay | brb, one sec.. |
| 07:02:00 | sharpe | don't remote wps' have .rwps as their extension? |
| 07:06:15 | bam_ | anyone have the source code for favorites? |
| 07:08:29 | midkay | sharpe,do they? |
| 07:08:40 | sharpe | no idea, never used them |
| 07:08:51 | sharpe | tis listed in tree.c as rwps |
| 07:09:46 | midkay | ah, alright, that's good.. |
| 07:09:51 | midkay | now.. what about multiple WPS'.. |
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| 07:11:10 | sharpe | what about them? |
| 07:11:21 | midkay | how will you handle them? |
| 07:11:32 | sharpe | like multiple .wps files in the same zip? |
| 07:12:08 | midkay | yeah. |
| 07:12:30 | sharpe | easy. skip the latter ones after the first one is found. :P |
| 07:12:54 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:13:15 | sharpe | better organization than having them all lumped into one zip |
| 07:13:52 | midkay | it might be nice to list all the detected WPS files if more than one is found and let the user choose which to load.. |
| 07:14:04 | sharpe | i know |
| 07:14:07 | midkay | actually might be a very nice idea, to store all of your WPS' in one zip.. |
| 07:14:29 | midkay | package rockbox with a single WPS zip file.. downloadable "packages".. |
| 07:14:40 | sharpe | heheh. |
| 07:15:14 | midkay | :) |
| 07:15:35 | sharpe | hooray for modularity |
| 07:16:00 | midkay | wooooo |
| 07:17:42 | sharpe | lets make a checklist for all of the ideas... |
| 07:18:35 | midkay | i wouldn't mind writing a checklist and a few case examples.. |
| 07:19:41 | sharpe | eh, go for it... |
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| 07:25:38 | TiMiD | http://timidzone.free.fr/pub/capture_tetris2.png |
| 07:25:41 | TiMiD | :] |
| 07:25:55 | TiMiD | multi-screen tetris plugin |
| 07:26:14 | midkay | TiMiD, your work? |
| 07:26:21 | TiMiD | yep |
| 07:27:15 | midkay | cool :) |
| 07:27:15 | TiMiD | yesterday I was bored so I programmed that |
| 07:27:21 | TiMiD | well not my only work, the background picture for the main screen is from the existing "tetrox" plugin |
| 07:27:41 | midkay | TiMiD, neatness, looks cool :) done? submit a patch.. |
| 07:28:00 | TiMiD | not done yet |
| 07:28:00 | TiMiD | no mappings for remote keys |
| 07:28:19 | TiMiD | no menu to select 1 / 2 players and so on |
| 07:28:38 | midkay | TiMiD, ah.. :) |
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| 07:30:33 | TiMiD | and one pbl, the remote screen is too small so it's difficult to display scores with more than 4 digits |
| 07:30:54 | midkay | hnn,, |
| 07:31:19 | midkay | what if you moved the play area up to the top.. |
| 07:31:27 | midkay | should be room on the bottom to display score with many digits.. |
| 07:31:33 | midkay | if that seems necessary.. |
| 07:31:59 | sharpe | implement another tetris screen :D |
| 07:32:05 | midkay | :) |
| 07:32:24 | TiMiD | good idea |
| 07:32:30 | TiMiD | not for today though |
| 07:32:36 | TiMiD | I need to go out |
| 07:32:46 | TiMiD | breath fresh air |
| 07:32:49 | midkay | TiMiD, alright.. looks cool though :) |
| 07:33:05 | TiMiD | yup :) |
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| 07:55:47 | bam_ | what tags are for those left/right level lines? |
| 07:56:02 | bam_ | wps file |
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| 09:09:48 | Slasheri | ah, tagcache engine seems to be stable enough now for the first commit :) still need to add the chunked browsing to the UI |
| 09:10:03 | Cassandra | And today I shall add a new build host. |
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| 09:10:35 | Cassandra | Slasheri, that's good. Does it work OK without the chunked browsing. What happens if there's too many entries? |
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| 09:11:35 | Slasheri | Cassandra: currently it just stops listing more entries if dirbuffer becomes full |
| 09:12:00 | Slasheri | but i think it should be now easy to add the chunked browsing to the ui, trying to do that now |
| 09:12:20 | Cassandra | Cool. It'd be much better with that, particularly on Archos. |
| 09:12:48 | Slasheri | yep :) |
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| 09:13:58 | Bger | morning :) |
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| 09:14:05 | Slasheri | hi :) |
| 09:14:20 | amiconn | morning |
| 09:14:20 | ashridah | Slasheri: need any testers? |
| 09:15:07 | Bger | ah? |
| 09:15:13 | Bger | tagcache ?:)))) |
| 09:15:14 | Slasheri | ashridah: hmm, which players you have? |
| 09:15:18 | amiconn | Slasheri: Do you have an insight which code becomes dead code after switcing to tagcache? |
| 09:15:25 | Slasheri | Bger: yep, engine ready and ui coming soon |
| 09:15:25 | ashridah | H140 |
| 09:15:43 | amiconn | Dead code should be ripped out |
| 09:15:45 | Slasheri | amiconn: yes, just a moment |
| 09:15:56 | Bger | cool:P |
| 09:17:10 | Slasheri | amiconn: at least: apps/dbtree.[ch] apps/database.[ch] and removal of all pointers to tagcache from codec- and plugin-api, and disabling searchengine plugin |
| 09:17:32 | Slasheri | oops, tagdatabase :) |
| 09:17:52 | amiconn | Yes, and databox, plus the runtimedb |
| 09:18:27 | amiconn | We won't have runtimedb in 3.0. After that this feature should be added to tagcache |
| 09:19:08 | Slasheri | yes, true |
| 09:19:28 | Bger | amiconn databox ? |
| 09:19:47 | Bger | HCl planned to port it to tagcache |
| 09:20:02 | Slasheri | Bger: it wont be removed, just "disabled" |
| 09:20:06 | Slasheri | so it can be ported later |
| 09:20:12 | Bger | ah, k:) |
| 09:26:16 | Cassandra | Hmmm. Do I need gcc-core as well as gcc? |
| 09:26:31 | amiconn | You need *only* gcc-core |
| 09:26:43 | amiconn | (to build the crosscompiler) |
| 09:27:08 | Cassandra | Ah, right. gcc is the whole nine yards? |
| 09:27:56 | Cassandra | Ah, 230Kbit/s. I love 2mbit broadband. |
| 09:28:54 | amiconn | yes, the 'gcc' package includes all supported languages |
| 09:29:17 | amiconn | gcc-core is enough for just C |
| 09:32:53 | * | Cassandra grumbles about the fact her arm-elf compiler is 3.4.x and thus not compatible with the build system. |
| 09:33:11 | Cassandra | Well, it's probably compatible. Just not desirable. |
| 09:34:00 | amiconn | Iirc binaries built with arm-elf-gcc 3.4.6 don't work |
| 09:37:03 | Cassandra | amicon: I was using 3.4.4, which didn't have any problems. |
| 09:37:20 | amiconn | ok |
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| 09:39:17 | Cassandra | Hmmm. Why am I rebuilding binutils, when I already have a working arm toolchain? |
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| 09:44:04 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 09:44:31 | amiconn | I just realised that there might be a problem with the picth feature and s/pdif output (on archos) |
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| 09:49:09 | * | Cassandra sees the forum topic "make problems in vmware" and thinks "but what if I don't want to". |
| 09:49:54 | lostlogic | Remember, remember the 5th of November. |
| 09:50:48 | dpassen1 | Did you enjoy the movie, lostlogic |
| 09:51:06 | Cassandra | Alan Moore thinks it sucks. |
| 09:51:33 | Cassandra | But then he's never liked a movie they made from his stuff, with highly variable levels of justification. |
| 09:51:34 | lostlogic | quite enjoyed it. there were flaws, and I didn't like that he tortured her. kinda surprised that they were allowed to produce it. |
| 09:52:11 | Cassandra | lostlogic, V isn't supposed to be a hero - he's a loon. |
| 09:52:21 | lostlogic | no, he's a hero. |
| 09:52:25 | lostlogic | at least he is to me |
| 09:52:28 | lostlogic | but then I'm an anarchist. |
| 09:53:01 | Cassandra | Alan Moore thinks he's portrayed as a US liberal rather than an anarchist. |
| 09:53:15 | Cassandra | (One of the reasons he was disappointed.) |
| 09:53:41 | lostlogic | I guess he's a broken hero −− but desperate times require desperate measures, perhaps V's measures aren't 'sane' but they work, and what works is what's necessary when a government has gone that wrong. |
| 09:53:43 | dpassen1 | But Alan Moore will never approve an adaptation of his work. Never |
| 09:54:02 | lostlogic | which (incidentally) both US and UK governments are getting frighteningly close to doing. |
| 09:54:49 | Cassandra | lostlogic, in a sense. To put it another way, when things have gone that wrong, no-one can be in the right. |
| 09:54:57 | lostlogic | *nod* |
| 09:55:29 | * | Cassandra is looking forward to seeing the film. |
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| 09:55:47 | Cassandra | (Although I was disappointed by the comic. To me it seemed to fizzle.) |
| 09:56:09 | lostlogic | I think the movie actually did a nice job on the ending |
| 09:58:47 | Cassandra | Hmm. Where the instructions say "as rbclient, check out rockbox-devel" do they mean anonymously? |
| 09:59:02 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:59:10 | Bagder | rbclient is read-only |
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| 10:00:19 | Cassandra | Fair enough. And where do I get the ssh key from? |
| 10:00:48 | Bagder | in a /msg from me |
| 10:01:22 | Bagder | put that in ~rbclient/.ssh/authorized_keys2 |
| 10:01:47 | Bagder | (as a single line, in case your irc client split it) |
| 10:02:44 | Cassandra | That 2 is a typo, right? |
| 10:02:54 | Bagder | no |
| 10:03:01 | Bagder | but you can have it in the regular one too I believe |
| 10:03:18 | Bagder | the 2 is for v2 |
| 10:03:24 | Cassandra | Oh, right. |
| 10:03:43 | Cassandra | Yeah. I never bothered to use that. v1 compatibility is not important to me. |
| 10:04:21 | Cassandra | OK - I think this server is ready for addition. Do you have some way of running a test? |
| 10:04:56 | Bagder | if you tell me your host name I can check out some basic things at least |
| 10:04:59 | lostlogic | haven't we pretty much hit the point where more servers stop helping because they increase the transfer time as much as they decrease the build time? |
| 10:05:11 | Bagder | no |
| 10:05:21 | lostlogic | well cool then |
| 10:05:21 | Cassandra | I still need the acclient script, I think. |
| 10:05:25 | * | lostlogic sleeps. |
| 10:05:30 | Cassandra | slappy.dynamic.greenend.org.uk |
| 10:05:30 | Bagder | I checked the logs and the transfer times are never more than just a few secs |
| 10:05:44 | Bagder | Cassandra: I'll copy a script to you |
| 10:06:25 | * | Cassandra sighs. I miss my ADSL connection and all my static IPs. Au revoir, coraline.org |
| 10:07:15 | Bagder | Cassandra: there's an acbuild.pl script in your rbclient |
| 10:07:18 | Bagder | 's homedir now |
| 10:07:27 | Cassandra | Cool, thanks. |
| 10:07:28 | Bagder | check the PATH variable in the top of the script |
| 10:07:41 | Bagder | and ccache status, and make -j number |
| 10:08:02 | Bagder | then we're ready to fly |
| 10:09:14 | Bagder | you have all compilers and sdl installed? |
| 10:09:29 | Cassandra | Should do, yes. |
| 10:09:40 | Cassandra | Where's the ccache status and make -j? |
| 10:09:51 | Cassandra | Oh, sorry. |
| 10:09:52 | Bagder | check the configure invoke within that script |
| 10:10:33 | Cassandra | That's all cool. |
| 10:10:43 | Bagder | ok, server added |
| 10:10:59 | Cassandra | So now we wait till someone commits? |
| 10:11:03 | Bagder | yeps |
| 10:11:13 | Cassandra | Story of my life. ;) |
| 10:11:21 | Bagder | :-) |
| 10:13:33 | Cassandra | Wish there was some way to do a dry run to make sure everything's working. |
| 10:13:51 | Bagder | you should be able to run acbuild.pl as rbclient |
| 10:14:26 | Bagder | hm |
| 10:14:32 | Bagder | perhaps that's a bit tricky |
| 10:14:48 | Bagder | but I agree, it would be neat with some kind of "self test" |
| 10:14:56 | Cassandra | Erm, I think it just deleted itself. |
| 10:15:10 | Bagder | oops |
| 10:15:18 | Cassandra | And all the CVS dirs. |
| 10:15:19 | Cassandra | *sigh* |
| 10:16:04 | Bagder | I recopied it to you |
| 10:16:12 | Cassandra | Thanks |
| 10:16:23 | Bagder | sorry, that invoke was a bad idea |
| 10:17:32 | Cassandra | Never mind |
| 10:21:06 | Cassandra | So we have 8 build servers now then? |
| 10:21:13 | amiconn | Something is fishy in filetypes.c. Why does adding one line to viewers.config require upping MAX_FILETYPES by 2 to get rid of "Filetype array full" ? |
| 10:22:08 | Cassandra | No, more. Nice. |
| 10:22:51 | Cassandra | Although this 127.0.0.1 server looks a bit dodgy. ;) |
| 10:23:01 | Bagder | heh |
| 10:23:09 | Bagder | we have 12 servers atm |
| 10:23:30 | * | Cassandra needs a way to read her IP from her router. |
| 10:23:43 | Cassandra | Currently if it changes I have to update the DNS manually. |
| 10:24:01 | Bagder | you can often use curl to get a page from it |
| 10:24:02 | amiconn | Get a dyndns account... |
| 10:24:10 | Bagder | with the IP |
| 10:24:41 | Cassandra | That's not the problem. It's getting the router to tell me the IP. |
| 10:24:43 | * | amiconn has a router which supports dyndns internally |
| 10:25:23 | Cassandra | However, I've just spotted an SNMP service. |
| 10:27:59 | Cassandra | Of course. Far be it from the router to actually tell me what the community name and security name is. |
| 10:33:43 | amiconn | Any archos dev fancy testing my new wavplay plugin? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4902 |
| 10:36:45 | amiconn | It's still a hack, since it relies on some parameters being set up correctly by the core playback engine, but other than that, it's working fine here. |
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| 10:39:43 | Cassandra | I can test it if you like. |
| 10:40:25 | Cassandra | What in the goddess' name is a securityName and why the hell should I need one? |
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| 10:44:11 | Bagder | in what context? |
| 10:46:29 | Cassandra | SNMP |
| 10:46:42 | merbanan | Cassandra: doesn't public and private do ? |
| 10:46:51 | Cassandra | Specifically SNMP for the Alchemy WRT54G firmware. |
| 10:47:02 | Cassandra | merbanan - that's the community name. |
| 10:47:25 | Bagder | snmp is not really my area of expertise |
| 10:47:41 | merbanan | ok, snmp v1 only seamed to need a community name |
| 10:49:22 | Cassandra | Mine neither. |
| 10:49:43 | Cassandra | merbanan, maybe that's the problem. Maybe I need to tell snmpwalk to use v1. |
| 10:50:17 | Cassandra | Nah, that's not it. |
| 10:51:33 | merbanan | Cassandra: well the configuration interface should have a snmp entry |
| 10:58:01 | * | Cassandra throws her hands up in despair. |
| 10:59:30 | * | amiconn also gets varying IPs, and lets his router handle that with dyndns updates |
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| 11:00:07 | amiconn | Works rather well for build box access and other kinds of external access |
| 11:00:39 | Cassandra | amiconn: I think I'm about to switch to using that too, since my router supports it. |
| 11:01:02 | * | amiconn uses dyndns for years. |
| 11:01:17 | amiconn | Before I got my new router, I had a dyndns client running on my Amiga |
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| 11:07:24 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 11:07:36 | muesli__ | ho all |
| 11:07:36 | Bger | hey you:) |
| 11:10:16 | JdGordon | silly q.. whats more important.. me doing my prac for tomorow for uni.. for fixing the patch before the deadline :D |
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| 11:11:49 | Cassandra | bagder: If you're around, please change my hostname to byzantium.homedns.org |
| 11:12:44 | Bger | JdGordon for sure the first one ;) |
| 11:13:03 | JdGordon | ?? that was soo not the answer i was expecting.. |
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| 11:13:04 | muesli__ | JdGordon take the ferry to manly and relaxe at the beach ;-) |
| 11:13:15 | JdGordon | wrong city |
| 11:13:21 | JdGordon | and i spent all day on the beach today |
| 11:13:26 | * | JdGordon is sunburnt :D |
| 11:13:46 | Bger | :D |
| 11:14:05 | muesli__ | tasty % crispy as a toast? |
| 11:16:41 | Bagder | Cassandra: ok |
| 11:16:50 | Cassandra | JdGordon, you know you have a week until feature freeze, right? |
| 11:16:57 | Cassandra | Bagder, thanks. |
| 11:17:21 | JdGordon | yes.. no, i was being sarcastic... i dont really care about uni all that much atm.. too tired from a day on the beach! |
| 11:17:59 | Cassandra | Ah, right. ;) |
| 11:20:47 | Bger | JdGordon which patch ? |
| 11:21:06 | JdGordon | playlist control in plugins |
| 11:21:27 | Bger | ah :) |
| 11:22:06 | JdGordon | should it be called playlist or playback control? |
| 11:23:08 | * | amiconn just had a weird idea |
| 11:23:27 | amiconn | Well, perhaps not weird at all. I'm asking for comments: |
| 11:23:50 | amiconn | Since JdGordon is working on playback control from within plugins, why not just make the wps a plugin as well? |
| 11:24:08 | amiconn | - Would save on core size |
| 11:24:19 | amiconn | - WPS and a plugin can never be shown at the same time |
| 11:24:30 | JdGordon | and would allow multiple wps implementatinos... |
| 11:24:36 | amiconn | - Would allow for fancy wps redirection |
| 11:24:37 | TiMiD | everything vould be a plugin then |
| 11:24:56 | TiMiD | same could apply for filetree |
| 11:25:02 | JdGordon | amiconn: leave it for 4.0 :) |
| 11:25:16 | amiconn | (thinking about redirecting to a car head unit, or Cassandra's idea of using the nano as a remote for the video) |
| 11:27:32 | muesli__ | <amiconn> - WPS and a plugin can never be shown at the same time isnt this a disadvantage? |
| 11:27:49 | amiconn | No, a statement |
| 11:28:35 | JdGordon | amiconn: youd need to give plugins alot more access to core functions to do it.. i.e access to the settings menus, and filebrowser.. and.. and... |
| 11:28:36 | muesli__ | cos using the remote while ie playing a rock would rock :o |
| 11:29:01 | amiconn | A plugin gets exclusive screen control anyway, of both screens in case of iriver |
| 11:29:36 | JdGordon | muesli__: that would be awesome.. 1 screen for plugin and lcd remote for playback control :D |
| 11:29:41 | JdGordon | too bad i dont have a remote tho :p |
| 11:29:52 | amiconn | Changing that would mean a lot of work (my old idea of having two UI threads for units with two displays) |
| 11:30:22 | amiconn | I'd rather not want to think about the implications. |
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| 11:31:07 | amiconn | It's not just having 2 threads and adding some simple messaging, but today we often rely on the fact that 2 user actions can't happen at the same time, |
| 11:31:16 | JdGordon | splitting some stuff into plugins would be good tho.. might even get rid of some #ifdef hell... plugin for radio, recorder, wps, filetree, settings menu.. |
| 11:31:26 | amiconn | because there is only one UI. This assumption would no longer hold |
| 11:32:15 | amiconn | JdGordon: Recording is too tightly integrated with the core to be cut out. |
| 11:32:50 | JdGordon | .. just an example.. |
| 11:32:51 | amiconn | Other than that, it's a question of philosophy. Should the core provide all typical DAP functions without relying on plugins? |
| 11:33:14 | amiconn | I know, that doesn't hold anyway on swcodec platforms because of the loadable codec |
| 11:33:18 | amiconn | s |
| 11:33:19 | JdGordon | cept splitting it all off would slow the whole thing down tho wont it? if it has to read the file from disk every time its called? may as well just leave it in the core |
| 11:38:54 | JdGordon | .. and so endith the topic of conversation... |
| 11:39:44 | amiconn | bbl |
| 11:39:47 | | Part amiconn |
| 11:43:26 | JdGordon | do i just need to add the .c to SOURCES in plugins/lib for the file to compile? or do i need to get a plugin to use it also? |
| 11:45:14 | JdGordon | does any1 know how to remove hiss in audio in audacity? |
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| 11:52:33 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Yes, you should just need to add yourfile.c to plugins/lib/SOURCES and #include "yourfile.h" from your plugin. |
| 11:56:02 | cannard | this shall be a long shot |
| 11:56:02 | Mikachu | JdGordon: isn't there a noise remover plugin? |
| 11:56:08 | cannard | but rez for rockbox?? |
| 11:56:59 | JdGordon | Mikachu: i dunno... but i figured it out :), sounds great |
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| 12:02:56 | JdGordon | any1 know where set_int is? |
| 12:04:54 | Mikachu | line 1699 in settings.c |
| 12:05:41 | JdGordon | grrr.. find missed it for some reason :'( |
| 12:05:43 | JdGordon | thanx |
| 12:05:55 | * | JdGordon adds it to plugin api :p |
| 12:06:34 | * | Mikachu just did :tag set_int in his editor |
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| 12:10:56 | JdGordon | weee... compiles with no errors :D |
| 12:11:01 | JdGordon | time to test in a plugin |
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| 12:16:12 | JdGordon | im getting a "undefined reference" error to memcpy, can i just get around that by doing #define memcpy api->memcpy ? (in the plugin lib) |
| 12:16:40 | Massa | Hi everybody! |
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| 12:16:55 | JdGordon | .. or just add static to the offending line :D |
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| 12:17:53 | chris05 | hey does someone want to try and help me out with patching a little bit? |
| 12:18:07 | JdGordon | .. |
| 12:18:12 | Massa | Is somebdoy here with a iRiver H3x0 which also notices problems with the clock's year? Or am I the only one? |
| 12:18:20 | JdGordon | isnt there a make install target for the sim builds? |
| 12:18:41 | JdGordon | Massa: going from rockob to regular fm? |
| 12:18:53 | Massa | cris05, what does your patch do? |
| 12:19:28 | chris05 | well i mean applying patches from vmware and the debian package |
| 12:19:43 | Massa | No, suddenly jumping to 1999 - even when only using Rockbox! |
| 12:20:03 | Massa | I identified it happens when I connect and disconnect to USB |
| 12:20:16 | JdGordon | linuxstb: any preference to the name of it? its playlist_control.c atm, but i tihnk playback_control.c would be better..? |
| 12:21:13 | Massa | chris05, applying patches from vmware and debian to Rockbox :-| ??? |
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| 12:21:40 | JdGordon | chris05: patch -p0 < file_of_the_patch.patch |
| 12:22:01 | chris05 | alright but were do i put the files or does it matter? sorry i dont know much about linux |
| 12:22:26 | JdGordon | doesnt matter where the patch file is.. but u need to be in the rockbox-devel directory (i think( |
| 12:22:28 | Massa | chris05, aah now I got it - it's about patching in principle ;) |
| 12:23:19 | chris05 | anyone wanna kinda walk me through it for the first time after i know how once ill have it down im pretty sure? |
| 12:23:24 | Massa | You have to stay in the directory to which the patch shall be applied - it doesn't matter where the patch file is |
| 12:25:41 | Massa | chris05, so tell me what patch you want apply to what |
| 12:27:07 | chris05 | the iboy controls one or the album art one i was gonna do the rockboy one first tho |
| 12:27:50 | chris05 | i get loged in to debain and then im pretty much lost |
| 12:28:22 | Massa | Do the album art first - I know more about it (I wrote parts of it ;)) |
| 12:28:39 | Massa | Do you have a working rockbox development environment? |
| 12:28:54 | Massa | I'll say - are you able to compile an unpatched version? |
| 12:29:09 | chris05 | is that the cvs one? |
| 12:29:29 | Massa | Yes.. |
| 12:30:02 | chris05 | i think i got it hold on a sec i moved all my rockbox things |
| 12:32:08 | TiMiD | http://timidzone.free.fr/pub/capture_tetris3.png |
| 12:32:11 | TiMiD | nihaha |
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| 12:32:52 | TiMiD | new tetris plugin |
| 12:32:56 | TiMiD | with remote |
| 12:33:11 | Moos | Ouiiii !!! :) |
| 12:33:16 | JdGordon | weeee, all done :D |
| 12:33:38 | JdGordon | TiMiD: new one? or changed looks? |
| 12:33:38 | Mikachu | TiMiD: you study japanese? |
| 12:33:49 | TiMiD | hmmm |
| 12:33:56 | TiMiD | I'm living in japan |
| 12:34:01 | Mikachu | oh |
| 12:34:12 | Moos | french in Japan :) |
| 12:34:14 | TiMiD | at least for some month I don't know |
| 12:34:26 | chris05 | alright i dont got the cvs one is the one at http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 12:34:28 | TiMiD | maybe I would like to stay |
| 12:34:30 | Mikachu | how many tetris plugins does rockbox need? |
| 12:34:57 | Massa | chris05, huh? |
| 12:35:01 | TiMiD | this one has a 2 player mode with remote |
| 12:35:52 | TiMiD | JdGordon: new one written from scratch, I just took the backgrounds from the previous plugin |
| 12:36:02 | Massa | TiMiD, are you able to integrate the features of your plugin to the existing one? |
| 12:36:03 | TiMiD | and the key assigments |
| 12:36:07 | chris05 | i didnt the cvs one like i just had the one that i copy over to my ipod |
| 12:36:07 | JdGordon | nice |
| 12:36:57 | Massa | chris05, did you download the sources in a tar package or did you directly get it via CVS? |
| 12:37:02 | JdGordon | linuxstb, Bagder, any of the other swedes :p http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4874 ready to go :D |
| 12:37:07 | chris05 | was it the source that i was supost to get or the one with .rockbox(folder) and rockbox.loader |
| 12:37:44 | chris05 | rockbox.ipod i mean |
| 12:37:49 | TiMiD | Massa: imoossible |
| 12:37:58 | Massa | chris05, of course you need the sources if you want to patch something... |
| 12:38:12 | Massa | TiMiD, why? |
| 12:38:13 | TiMiD | code base is completely different |
| 12:38:37 | chris05 | lol alright sorry im new to this compiling and stuff |
| 12:38:39 | TiMiD | I can integrate if I c&p my whole code in the file |
| 12:39:30 | Massa | TiMiD: how does it look at different devices (color, non color, smaller screens bigger screens, with different LCD remotes, without LCD remote, ....?) ;-) |
| 12:39:42 | * | JdGordon homework time |
| 12:39:44 | JdGordon | :'( |
| 12:40:20 | TiMiD | Massa: I still need to use the differents backgrounds from the other devices |
| 12:40:22 | Massa | chris05, the best is you download the CVS repository directly via CVS - you're then able to update it easily (well most of the time).. |
| 12:41:28 | TiMiD | Massa: I didn't told I wanted to commit it right now, it's not finished |
| 12:41:44 | Massa | chris05, do you have the correct compiler and stuff for your target? |
| 12:41:56 | chris05 | alright im pretty sure i got the right one now it was rockbox-bleeding.tar.gz and has folders called apps,bootloader and all that things |
| 12:42:19 | Massa | chris05, are there directories named "CVS"? |
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| 12:45:32 | Massa | TiMiD, on which devices does it work at the moment? |
| 12:45:38 | chris05 | nope just folders that were called apps,bootloader,doc,firmware,flash,fonts,gdb,tools, ect... and files in them called backlight.c,fonts.c ect.. |
| 12:45:42 | chris05 | i got it from http://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-source/rockbox-bleeding.tar.gz |
| 12:45:44 | TiMiD | iriver H100 |
| 12:45:54 | TiMiD | H1X0 |
| 12:47:06 | Massa | chris05, O.K., you can use it - although I suggest to directly use a CVS download - but you can do it later... |
| 12:47:34 | Massa | chris05, do you have the correct compiler environment for your target? |
| 12:48:02 | Massa | chris05, I don't mean Rockbox itself, I mean the compiler, linker and tools to compile it for your target... |
| 12:48:17 | | Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 12:48:27 | chris05 | i think so i downloaded the vmware debian image thats supost to have the things i need |
| 12:48:44 | chris05 | it has cvs, flex, bison, m4, make, zip/unzip, patch, ssh, samba |
| 12:49:01 | Massa | TiMiD, have you already set up a patch tracker entry for your plugin? |
| 12:50:04 | TiMiD | no |
| 12:50:21 | TiMiD | If I find the motivation I will probably |
| 12:50:23 | Massa | chris05, O.K. let's try it (although I never did it with debian/vmware ;) ) |
| 12:50:58 | chris05 | alright! |
| 12:51:06 | Massa | TiMiD, at least it sounds to be interesting - two player mode and stuff :) |
| 12:51:24 | Massa | chris05, so you logged in to your system as some user? |
| 12:51:28 | TiMiD | oh just an idea I wanted to try |
| 12:51:42 | TiMiD | but to play on the remotemay be difficult |
| 12:52:01 | TiMiD | buttons are not really designed for that :) |
| 12:52:04 | * | Moos is thinking to iAudio remote :p |
| 12:52:10 | Massa | TiMiD, I think it's interesting enough to give it a try - and to share the code, of course :D |
| 12:52:51 | TiMiD | Moos: iAudio remote buttons are decent ? |
| 12:53:10 | chris05 | yeah i am now |
| 12:53:12 | TiMiD | Massa: anyway it could also allow a player to play on the remote with single mode |
| 12:53:18 | Massa | TiMiD, that's the same reason why I don't think doom is good for my device - I'm sure it'll break my keyboard sooner or later :-( |
| 12:53:32 | Moos | TiMiD: decent is one big word for the buttons, but the screen is more than decent |
| 12:53:39 | TiMiD | hehe |
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| 12:53:55 | chris05 | it says user@debian:~$ |
| 12:54:26 | Massa | chris05, did you already unpack the rockbox sources to a directory? |
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| 12:54:30 | chris05 | yeah |
| 12:54:44 | Massa | chris05, as same user? |
| 12:55:03 | Massa | chris05, if yes - go to that directory now... |
| 12:55:07 | chris05 | what? i did it in windows |
| 12:55:24 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 12:55:50 | Massa | chris05, with which tool? |
| 12:56:07 | chris05 | winrar |
| 12:56:43 | Massa | chris05, did you follow any instructions which tells you this works or did you do it on your own? |
| 12:56:46 | MarcoPolo | What does exactly this instruction : IIS1CONFIG = 0x800; The comment says it stops playback. How ? Is it a cpu register which is so written ? |
| 12:57:27 | Mikachu | probably memory mapped hardware |
| 12:57:43 | chris05 | yeah, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 12:58:42 | Massa | chris05, I don't think it'll work by unpacking it with WinRAR... |
| 12:58:58 | chris05 | ahhh i see |
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| 12:59:12 | MarcoPolo | Mikachu: and where can I find the definitions for this memory mapped hardware ? |
| 12:59:27 | Massa | chris05, but you can continue to follow the instructions - they also tell about downloading it directly by CVS |
| 12:59:29 | Mikachu | how would i know, you haven't even said what target it is |
| 12:59:55 | MarcoPolo | ipod |
| 12:59:57 | chris05 | would u know how to get it so i can use the files in debian? |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:04 | Massa | chris05, although they're not very detailed in that point... |
| 13:00:14 | MarcoPolo | (but in general, in which files are those mapping defined ?) |
| 13:00:19 | Massa | chris05, you're still logged in? |
| 13:00:32 | chris05 | yeah |
| 13:00:33 | Massa | chris05, create a new directoy named "rockbox" |
| 13:01:20 | chris05 | alright i think i did i typed mkdir rockbox |
| 13:01:37 | Massa | chris05, cd to that directory |
| 13:01:54 | Massa | chris05, now we'll check out the rockbox sources via cvs. |
| 13:02:01 | Massa | chris05, enter the following command: |
| 13:02:04 | chris05 | okay |
| 13:02:25 | Massa | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 13:02:28 | MarcoPolo | Mikachu: ok, I found it |
| 13:02:34 | MarcoPolo | it's in mcf5249.h |
| 13:03:12 | MarcoPolo | but it's for coldfire processors |
| 13:03:12 | Massa | chris05, huh... the smilie in the above line should be a double colon, followed by "p". So that it reads pserver |
| 13:03:46 | chris05 | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 13:03:46 | chris05 | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 13:03:50 | chris05 | oops |
| 13:03:50 | Massa | chris05, it'll then ask you for a password. Just press enter without entering a pasword |
| 13:04:21 | Mikachu | MarcoPolo: |
| 13:04:27 | Mikachu | #if defined(CPU_COLDFIRE) && !defined(SIMULATOR) |
| 13:04:27 | Mikachu | pcm_record.c |
| 13:04:27 | Mikachu | #endif |
| 13:05:12 | Massa | chris05, does it work? (of course you need a working network connection to the Internet... |
| 13:05:30 | Massa | chris05, from inside your debian vmware image - but I assume it works... |
| 13:05:45 | chris05 | so i was supost to type |
| 13:05:46 | chris05 | cvs -d ::pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 13:06:05 | MarcoPolo | Mikachu: ok. i was looking how was recording done, so it's rather platform dependent |
| 13:06:17 | Massa | chris05, "cvs" is the command. "-d" tells him which protocol and repository it should use. |
| 13:07:29 | chris05 | okay i think i did it |
| 13:08:06 | Massa | chris05, so it asks for a password? You then pressed enter? And it then doesn't complain about anything? |
| 13:08:38 | chris05 | nope it went back to user@debian:~/rockbox$ |
| 13:09:08 | Massa | chris05, that's OK - it'll not say anything if it worked :-) |
| 13:09:33 | chris05 | okay were getin somewere then! |
| 13:09:39 | Massa | chris05, now you can download the rocbox repository by using the CVS command - as follows: |
| 13:10:04 | Massa | chris05: enter the same CVS command as above, but instead of "login" at the end enter the following: |
| 13:10:39 | Massa | chris05 "co rockbox" |
| 13:10:56 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:12:15 | chris05 | okay its showin a bunch of filenames scolling |
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| 13:13:09 | Massa | chris05, it downloads the whole rockbox source structure and files - nearly the same as you already had in the downloaded tar file... |
| 13:13:22 | chris05 | ahhh alright |
| 13:13:53 | chris05 | okay its done |
| 13:14:13 | Massa | chris05, but later on you can go to that directory and just say "cvs update" and it will download the changes and incorporate in your existing structure... |
| 13:14:33 | Massa | chris05, now cd to the newly created rockbox directory |
| 13:15:20 | chris05 | k did that |
| 13:15:23 | Massa | chris05, (Now that I'm thinking about - it was not so smart to now have two directories named rockbox - but it does not hurt at all...) |
| 13:15:56 | Massa | chris05, now create a subdirectory in which you then build the beast - often named "build" and cd to that directory |
| 13:16:17 | Massa | chris05, you can have several subdirectories for different targets. |
| 13:16:36 | chris05 | so i should mkdir build |
| 13:16:44 | Massa | chri05, yeah! |
| 13:16:51 | chris05 | k |
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| 13:17:04 | Massa | chris05 and again go to that directory |
| 13:17:17 | chris05 | alright |
| 13:17:31 | Massa | chris05, now you'll start the configure command and tell the environment for which target you want to compile: |
| 13:17:40 | Massa | chris05 "../tools/configure" |
| 13:18:32 | Massa | chris05, it will start with a menu and ask for which target you want to compile... |
| 13:18:56 | chris05 | k got that part done and im guessing i am supost to chose the number for my ipod video and press enter |
| 13:18:58 | Massa | chris05, enter the number which reflects youre target (which one?) |
| 13:19:22 | Massa | chris05, yeah |
| 13:20:26 | Massa | chris05, the next menu asks if you want to compile something you'll use at your device (normal build) or simulator, or bootloader or manual. |
| 13:20:28 | chris05 | k now its at were it says normal, devel, simulater,bootloader, manual |
| 13:20:43 | Massa | chris05, choose "normal" if you want to use it on your device later... |
| 13:21:04 | chris05 | k got that |
| 13:21:13 | Massa | chris05, after that it should tell you which compiler it'll use and that it created a Makefile |
| 13:21:17 | chris05 | yup |
| 13:21:41 | Massa | now enter "make" - and get a cup of cofee ;) |
| 13:21:49 | Massa | cofee -> coffee |
| 13:22:28 | Massa | chris05, it'll now compile a bleeding edge build for your device... |
| 13:22:56 | chris05 | alright well thanks for helpin me through this lol! ill brb |
| 13:23:01 | Massa | chris05, come back when it's finished - it's only the first step :) |
| 13:23:07 | chris05 | k |
| 13:32:06 | chris05 | it keeps saying warning backlight.c has1.3e+05 s in the future |
| 13:32:47 | amiconn | Bleh. |
| 13:33:01 | Massa | chris05, huh? Does it continue? If yes, ignore it! |
| 13:33:03 | amiconn | Seems we need a vmware image including vmware tools |
| 13:33:43 | amiconn | Massa: The build process won't continue when it encounters files with future time stamps |
| 13:34:03 | Slasheri | now the long waited tagcache has been committed! |
| 13:34:08 | amiconn | The problem is that vmware doesn't always stay in sync without a little help |
| 13:34:18 | | Quit ep0ch ("Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") |
| 13:34:18 | Slasheri | but it has still many problems with it to be fixed later.. |
| 13:34:35 | midkay | chris05, a quick workaround.. open the file, edit it in some way (just add and remove a space somewhere) and re-save it to reset the timestamp so vmware won't complain. |
| 13:34:55 | preglow | woooo!!!! |
| 13:35:00 | midkay | Slasheri, it's working? :) |
| 13:35:04 | Mikachu | chris05: you can also do touch -R . in the dir that contains apps, firmware etc |
| 13:35:27 | chris05 | how do i make it stop showing that message |
| 13:35:36 | | Join webguest87 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:35:39 | midkay | chris05, ctrl+c to cancel the build.. |
| 13:35:44 | Massa | chris05, don't do that recursive touch! I'm sure it'll have some negative effects when updating... |
| 13:36:01 | Mikachu | why would it? |
| 13:36:02 | Slasheri | midkay: it might work, try it ;) |
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| 13:36:15 | Massa | chris05, is the backlight.c the only file with timestamp in future? |
| 13:36:18 | midkay | Slasheri, i shall, quickly! *checks out* :) |
| 13:36:20 | Slasheri | but it's not yet as usable as it should be |
| 13:36:23 | Slasheri | :) |
| 13:36:25 | webguest87 | Tagcache! Woo |
| 13:36:35 | midkay | Slasheri, so how exactly does it work? enabled from the menu, i guess? |
| 13:36:42 | Massa | Mikachu, aren't then all files "changed" for the cvs command? |
| 13:36:42 | * | amiconn will soon test stereo matrix settings with maspcm, the switch to working on english.lang |
| 13:36:43 | Mikachu | hm, it looks like touch doesn't have an -R option anyway |
| 13:36:43 | chris05 | im not sure thats the only one that it was sayin it for |
| 13:36:50 | amiconn | *then switch... |
| 13:36:59 | Mikachu | Massa: i doubt cvs cares about file dates |
| 13:37:00 | chris05 | so dont do the "touch -r" thing? |
| 13:37:03 | Slasheri | midkay: yes. What platform you are using? |
| 13:37:18 | preglow | amiconn: i asked you this before, but can't remember if you answered, are you fixing all the inconsistent cap usage as well? |
| 13:37:20 | midkay | Slasheri, ipod 5g. |
| 13:37:43 | Slasheri | midkay: ok, then you have two menu options available |
| 13:37:45 | amiconn | preglow: Some, perhaps |
| 13:38:09 | Slasheri | however, it might not work at all and only crash your ipods as it haven't been tested on that platform yet |
| 13:38:10 | amiconn | I don't know about many places of inconsistent caps anyway |
| 13:38:15 | Massa | chris05, you may try to "touch ../firmware/backlight.c"... |
| 13:38:16 | preglow | amiconn: i can remember a ton |
| 13:38:55 | amiconn | huh? |
| 13:38:57 | Massa | BTW, why does it have timestamps in future |
| 13:39:00 | chris05 | okay now do i type "make" again |
| 13:39:23 | amiconn | I admit that I don't use english.lng often |
| 13:39:26 | midkay | Slasheri, cool, let me snag latest cvs |
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| 13:39:40 | Massa | chris05, yes! |
| 13:39:44 | * | amiconn prefers his native language, although he has no problems understanding english |
| 13:39:51 | Slasheri | hmm, wondering if the cvs builds are not working at the moment (at least nothing seems to happen) |
| 13:39:53 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Congratulations on the tagcache commit. |
| 13:40:01 | Slasheri | linuxstb :) |
| 13:40:05 | webguest87 | Why is tag cache under Playback? *ducks* |
| 13:40:15 | * | linuxstb assigns March 26th "tagcache day" |
| 13:40:15 | tucoz | +1 on the congratulations. |
| 13:40:26 | Slasheri | webguest87: well, we can fine tune that later :) |
| 13:40:32 | * | JdGordon chucks in he congrats also.... even tho has no idea what its for :p |
| 13:41:04 | tucoz | JdGordon, tag database, but just better than the old one (I think) |
| 13:41:07 | * | webguest87 watches heavy harddisk activity |
| 13:41:21 | webguest87 | Slasheri: can I see somewhere how large the tagcache is? |
| 13:41:32 | webguest87 | (to decide whether or not I want to load it to ram |
| 13:41:46 | tucoz | but something is wrong with the builds |
| 13:41:51 | preglow | i've pretty much read english my entire life, so it is pretty much a second native language to me |
| 13:42:31 | chris05 | k now its saying that drivers/button.c has a modification time in the future like last for the backlight.c |
| 13:42:38 | tucoz | Maybe Bagder and t0mas forgot something during their late night script fixing session |
| 13:42:39 | Mikachu | IpodHardwareInfo says USB handler is "Done" |
| 13:42:57 | webguest87 | Woo, "Current progress: 35%" exciting |
| 13:43:39 | Slasheri | webguest87: after you have rebooted the player, check how big /.rockbox/tagcache* files are |
| 13:43:39 | | Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:43:58 | Slasheri | debug menu doesn't show the size yet |
| 13:44:04 | chris05 | but it finished a couple after i did the make thign it said make[1]: 'ipod_fw' is up to date and a couple more then showed that warning again |
| 13:44:06 | preglow | why aren't the build boxes building? |
| 13:44:11 | webguest87 | Fair enough |
| 13:44:26 | webguest87 | preglow: They're sulking. I think they've become self-aware. |
| 13:44:27 | Massa | chris05, thats weird. |
| 13:44:43 | * | webguest87 obviuosly has no idea |
| 13:45:20 | chris05 | yep any idea of what i should do now:S |
| 13:45:22 | Massa | chris05, maybe you have the wrong timezone in your vmware image? |
| 13:45:35 | Massa | chris05, so it stopped compiling? |
| 13:46:35 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I've selected "force tagcache update" on my ipod, and then gone into the debug menu, and it says "Current progress: -1%". But I can hear the hard disk going. |
| 13:46:52 | chris05 | well it showed that warning file 'drivers/backligh.c has modification time 1.3e+05 s in the future and kept doin that and so i pressed control + c to stop it |
| 13:46:54 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hmm, you don't have dircache enabled? |
| 13:47:06 | Slasheri | then it cannot display the progress |
| 13:47:10 | linuxstb | Slasheri: That's probably true. |
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| 13:47:33 | Massa | chris05, what does "date" say? Does it correctly display your date/time? |
| 13:47:35 | LinusN | Bagder: there? |
| 13:47:37 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Should I enable dircache, and then reboot? |
| 13:47:44 | Slasheri | and without dircache, it's also not possible to load tagcache in ram |
| 13:47:57 | Slasheri | linuxstb: you can try that :) |
| 13:48:02 | webguest87 | Slasheri: What happens if I try? |
| 13:48:20 | * | preglow nudges the build system boys |
| 13:48:21 | Slasheri | webguest87: hmm, try what? |
| 13:48:23 | * | webguest87 has dircache off, set to load tagcache in ram and is updating tagcache |
| 13:48:32 | JdGordon | is it soo good having www.haxx.se as a cvs build machine? i had severe www slowness a while ago (i assume it was building at the time) ? |
| 13:48:40 | Slasheri | webguest87: ok, then tagcache just operates and builds slower |
| 13:48:54 | webguest87 | okay |
| 13:48:56 | chris05 | umm its off by like 2 days it says its fi mar 24 07:07:37 cet 2006 but its acutaly sat mar 26 3:04 am |
| 13:49:01 | Slasheri | and it will not load to ram |
| 13:49:19 | | Part LinusN |
| 13:49:29 | webguest87 | "Committing tagcache" |
| 13:49:53 | Massa | Hmm, anybode else here who successfully uses vmware as development platform? |
| 13:49:55 | preglow | haha |
| 13:50:05 | preglow | i started scanning the disk for tags, and the tagcache progress started out on 30% :P |
| 13:50:06 | Slasheri | webguest87: sounds good :) still no crashes? ;) |
| 13:50:14 | Slasheri | that should be the most critical step |
| 13:50:20 | webguest87 | JdGordon: I don't think it's related to that. The link broke somewhere in swip.net |
| 13:50:24 | webguest87 | Slasheri: nope, done now |
| 13:50:28 | Slasheri | nice |
| 13:50:31 | JdGordon | oh ok |
| 13:50:44 | webguest87 | Looking good |
| 13:50:56 | * | webguest87 browses the ID3 database |
| 13:52:17 | preglow | so optimising get_metadata now suddenly became a priority? ;) |
| 13:53:02 | * | webguest87 immediately starts requesting features.. is an "all" "folder" that contains all songs in the cards? |
| 13:53:20 | webguest87 | Well.. first bug |
| 13:53:27 | Mikachu | the pause on headphone unplug looks useful |
| 13:53:36 | preglow | Mikachu: i'd hate that... |
| 13:53:42 | preglow | Mikachu: that's what the apple fw does |
| 13:53:45 | webguest87 | I inserted a file after the current one, but another one was actually inserted |
| 13:53:56 | Mikachu | preglow: it's a preference |
| 13:54:29 | preglow | Slasheri: does it boost while scanning? |
| 13:54:36 | Slasheri | webguest87: hehe, the UI is likely to be still quite buggy.. hopefully somebody likes to fix it ;) i like more fixing the engine thing |
| 13:54:39 | Slasheri | preglow: yes it should |
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| 13:55:06 | webguest87-2 | Slasheri: another song with the same name, in fact |
| 13:55:10 | Mikachu | preglow: besides, it's easier to pull out the coord than unlock and press play and lock again :) |
| 13:55:15 | Mikachu | er, cord |
| 13:55:33 | preglow | Slasheri: and i browse tags by settings 'show files' to id3 database? |
| 13:55:45 | webguest87-2 | preglow: yup |
| 13:55:46 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Something went wrong with my update after enabling dircache and rebooting. I had to delete the tagcache file in .rockbox in order to make the "force update" work. But it seems to be going fine now. |
| 13:55:53 | * | preglow goes to find his resetting screwdriver :/ |
| 13:56:04 | Massa | chris05, it seems nobody else here is using vmware - is the date only wrong inside your image or is it wrong at your whole computer? |
| 13:56:04 | ashridah | heh |
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| 13:56:19 | Mikachu | what setting do i want to enable, gather runtime data? |
| 13:56:31 | chris05 | no its only wrong inside my image |
| 13:56:31 | Massa | chris05, and how did you log into your virtual machine? With ssh as the instructions mentions? |
| 13:56:38 | chris05 | yeah |
| 13:56:39 | preglow | it didn't show anything in any of the categoriews |
| 13:56:54 | preglow | then crashed |
| 13:57:08 | webguest87-2 | Slasheri: Multiple songs with the same name seems to be a problem |
| 13:57:21 | Massa | chris05, are you able to set the date inside your image? |
| 13:57:28 | webguest87-2 | (ie. the same song gets inserted regardless which one I insert) |
| 13:57:46 | linuxstb | Slasheri: The tagcache built without errors on my ipod, but when enabling ID3 view, I got a "prefetch abort at FFFDFFFC" when leaving the menu. |
| 13:58:00 | linuxstb | (this is on my iPod 4G Color) |
| 13:58:02 | Massa | chris05, it's one part of the instructions - did you already follow them? |
| 13:58:08 | * | webguest87-2 is glad he has the same device as Slasheri |
| 13:58:11 | Mikachu | but uh, how do i browse non-music files? |
| 13:58:16 | preglow | i just can't make it work on my h120 |
| 13:58:19 | chris05 | what does CCYY stand for? |
| 13:58:35 | webguest87-2 | preglow: Dircache on or off? |
| 13:58:42 | preglow | webguest87-2: on |
| 13:58:54 | Mikachu | and how do i know when it's done? |
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| 13:59:01 | Massa | chris05, I assume it's the year with century - 2006 currently ;) |
| 13:59:03 | Slasheri | linuxstb: oh, so there are still some alignment issues |
| 13:59:06 | preglow | i alays use dircache |
| 13:59:17 | ashridah | Slasheri: weird. i started getting warnings about tagtree.c tagcache.c and tagcache.h being 'in the future' by 2.something E 03 seconds :) |
| 13:59:19 | preglow | Slasheri: no, that's something else |
| 13:59:20 | webguest87-2 | Me too, it seems. I thought I didn't. |
| 13:59:31 | marevalo | hi all, for the commiters out here |
| 13:59:33 | preglow | Slasheri: prefetch abort means it tried to execute code from that address, but that address is in the middle of io port land |
| 13:59:43 | Slasheri | ah, hmm |
| 13:59:47 | webguest87-2 | Ah, dircache has decided not to work |
| 13:59:48 | midkay | Slasheri, so, how do i browse by tags after updating the cache? |
| 13:59:56 | marevalo | there is a patch on flyspry adding correct pieces for ChessBox on the Archos targets |
| 13:59:56 | webguest87-2 | I guess it's upset by my files |
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| 14:00:07 | Slasheri | midkay: select the id3 database mode |
| 14:00:12 | Slasheri | then it should work |
| 14:00:12 | webguest87-2 | midkay: set show files to "id3 database" |
| 14:00:20 | midkay | aha.. |
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| 14:00:32 | chris05 | it said operation not permited |
| 14:00:33 | webguest87-2 | o.O |
| 14:00:34 | Mikachu | calling a function tagcache_init() from the function init_tagcache is of course not confusing at all :) |
| 14:00:35 | midkay | froze.. |
| 14:00:45 | Mikachu | webguest87-2: how do you view normal files when in that mode? |
| 14:00:55 | webguest87-2 | Mikachu: You don't |
| 14:00:58 | Mikachu | great |
| 14:01:07 | ashridah | Slasheri: nevermind. my system was out a few thousand seconds |
| 14:01:13 | webguest87-2 | well, there's no metadata to browse, I don't see how you'd mix those |
| 14:01:18 | midkay | show files: id3 database - freezes rockbox when you try to leave the menu.. |
| 14:01:19 | Massa | chris05, Aah - you have to be root for doing this. Open another ssh connection and login as root (password: rockbox) |
| 14:01:24 | Slasheri | ashridah: hehe :) |
| 14:01:36 | midkay | let me try "load from disk".. |
| 14:01:41 | webguest87-2 | Current progress: 161% o.O |
| 14:01:52 | chris05 | how to i open another root? |
| 14:02:19 | Slasheri | webguest87-2: hmm, weird :D |
| 14:02:25 | midkay | Slasheri, showing id3 database simply freezes.. |
| 14:02:36 | Slasheri | midkay: you had ipod too? |
| 14:02:39 | Massa | chris05, which tool did you use to connect and login to your virtual machine? putty? |
| 14:02:41 | midkay | yes? |
| 14:02:43 | preglow | Slasheri: i just make it work, whenever i try to browse the database, it shows nothing, force update does nothing (always at 0%), thought it has completed one scan |
| 14:02:46 | preglow | :/ |
| 14:02:55 | preglow | Slasheri: i just _cant_ make it work, was what i meant to say |
| 14:02:57 | Slasheri | midkay: ok, it's probably a bug with that platform then |
| 14:03:01 | midkay | hmm. :( |
| 14:03:07 | Slasheri | preglow: you have to reboot |
| 14:03:16 | preglow | Slasheri: i have, many times |
| 14:03:19 | chris05 | when it loads the image it automaticy came up with thing that asks for a login username and then password |
| 14:03:21 | Slasheri | ah, hmm :/ |
| 14:03:32 | webguest87-2 | Am I the only one who has it working? |
| 14:03:47 | ashridah | it locks up when i enable id3 database too |
| 14:03:53 | Slasheri | preglow: can you check the logf console? |
| 14:03:53 | Massa | chris05, then just log out and log in again as "root" instead of "user"... |
| 14:04:14 | Massa | chris05, or try to use "su - root" |
| 14:04:25 | preglow | Slasheri: ahh, no, i'll compile a logf build |
| 14:04:39 | Slasheri | good :) that should help |
| 14:05:02 | safetydan | wow, tagcache comitted and it hasn't even been mentioned on misticriver yet |
| 14:05:08 | webguest87-2 | haha |
| 14:05:08 | Mikachu | great, now rb decided not to save my settings on shutdown |
| 14:05:21 | * | webguest87-2 punches dircache |
| 14:05:39 | * | ashridah forces a tagcache update to see if that'll help |
| 14:05:53 | chris05 | okay the date is set right now |
| 14:06:16 | Massa | chris05, did also set the correct keyboard in that step? |
| 14:06:23 | Massa | chris05, or is it already correct? |
| 14:06:43 | chris05 | yeah the keyboards alreayd correct |
| 14:07:29 | Massa | chris05, I also suggest to "shutdown" vmware (don't know how to do this) and start it again - just to see if the date is still correct... |
| 14:07:31 | chris05 | what does hwclock do? |
| 14:07:47 | Bger | JdGordon here? |
| 14:07:57 | JdGordon | there and everywhere :D |
| 14:08:03 | Bger | iirc |
| 14:08:16 | Bger | the view current playlist uses the plugin buffer ... |
| 14:08:19 | Massa | chris05, at linux hwclock get's and/or sets the linux clock to the same values as the PCs hardware clock |
| 14:08:19 | safetydan | hrm... maybe I should have charged this before firing off tagcache |
| 14:08:22 | preglow | Slasheri: it says commiting 2889 enties \n bulding index: 0 \n buffer way too small!! \n failed init |
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| 14:08:29 | Mikachu | why won't it save my settings? :(( |
| 14:08:35 | Massa | chris05, in vmware it may be different - I don't know... |
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| 14:08:35 | preglow | Slasheri: + some typos from me, yes |
| 14:08:59 | amiconn | hmpf |
| 14:09:05 | Mikachu | hm, now it did |
| 14:09:17 | Massa | chris05, if everything is fine - start it all over and log in as "user" again. |
| 14:09:18 | JdGordon | Bg3r: ye, i tihnk your right... |
| 14:09:21 | Slasheri | preglow: oh, that's weird |
| 14:09:26 | preglow | Slasheri: why's that? |
| 14:09:46 | Slasheri | preglow: does it say that when booting up? |
| 14:09:53 | Massa | chris05, I suggest to reload the whole thing (you could also get rid of that additional "rockbox" directory then) ;) |
| 14:09:59 | Slasheri | it tries to allocate the entire audiobuffer as the temporary buffer |
| 14:10:13 | preglow | Slasheri: yes, when booting up |
| 14:10:37 | Slasheri | but somehow, it seems there is almost no space on it to allocate from.. |
| 14:10:48 | Massa | chris05, after logging in as "user", remove the whole rockbox directory structure again: "rm -rf rockbox" |
| 14:11:13 | Slasheri | preglow: tempbuf_size = (int)audiobufend - (int)audiobuf - 4; |
| 14:11:16 | JdGordon | my last msg was for Bger not Bg3r :p |
| 14:11:22 | preglow | Slasheri: that should suffice... |
| 14:11:23 | chris05 | k |
| 14:11:50 | Massa | chris05, then download the cvs again (the second cvs command - the login is only needed once) - now directly in your user's home directory |
| 14:11:53 | Bger | JdGordon haha |
| 14:11:54 | * | amiconn slaps Slasheri for casting pointers to int |
| 14:11:58 | preglow | why does logfdump dump all the entries backwards? |
| 14:12:07 | Slasheri | preglow: it needs about 250k from that buffer |
| 14:12:09 | amiconn | pointers need to be cast to long |
| 14:12:20 | Slasheri | amiconn: oh, i will fix that |
| 14:12:39 | amiconn | You'll produce lovely warnings on 64bit if you don't |
| 14:12:49 | preglow | unsigned longs, even |
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| 14:13:06 | preglow | ptrdiff_t ! |
| 14:13:17 | webguest87-2 | bless you |
| 14:13:22 | preglow | hahahaha |
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| 14:13:26 | Massa | chris05, is your date/time still correct? |
| 14:13:55 | chris05 | i had to figure out how to set my time zone right and its rebooting now |
| 14:14:28 | * | Mikachu cvs up -D "one hour ago" |
| 14:14:30 | t0mas | Bagder? |
| 14:14:40 | t0mas | killed the update.sh script? |
| 14:14:58 | amiconn | What's wrong with the build system? |
| 14:15:04 | amiconn | No rebuilds... |
| 14:15:06 | t0mas | not building anything |
| 14:15:08 | t0mas | indeed |
| 14:15:18 | safetydan | Slasheri, plugging in the charger seems to interrupt the tagcache build |
| 14:15:21 | preglow | Slasheri: i've only got a tagcache_tmp.tcd file, shouldn't there be more? |
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| 14:17:00 | Slasheri | safetydan: ah, that too. fixing soon :) |
| 14:17:03 | safetydan | And what do you do if forcing a tagcache rebuild does nothing? |
| 14:17:23 | safetydan | Since now that I've interrupted the build it won't restart. |
| 14:17:29 | Slasheri | preglow: yes, after commit() succees there will be 5 index files and the tagcache_tmp.tcd should have been removed |
| 14:17:50 | Slasheri | safetydan: that's weird. Try to reboot |
| 14:18:00 | Slasheri | it should continue the update then |
| 14:18:08 | Slasheri | ah yes, in fact you have to reboot |
| 14:18:23 | * | amiconn gets a weird crash now in wavplay, if channel mode is set to karaoke |
| 14:18:28 | Slasheri | the changes have to be committed first before the building can continue |
| 14:18:29 | preglow | Slasheri: i'll just try to delete it and go at it again |
| 14:18:58 | amiconn | Really weird, it crashes with I04:IllInstr at 08924100. There's no memory in area 08....... |
| 14:19:08 | preglow | Slasheri: why does it start at 30%? :P |
| 14:19:14 | * | webguest87-2 notes that this still beats the old approach hands down |
| 14:20:07 | Slasheri | preglow: hmm, maybe you have some other than tagged music files on the disk too? |
| 14:20:11 | Slasheri | it just skips them :) |
| 14:20:31 | safetydan | Slasheri, rebooted several times still not building |
| 14:20:54 | safetydan | progress debug screen says 0% |
| 14:20:56 | safetydan | weird |
| 14:20:58 | Slasheri | safetydan: hmm :/ then you need to check the logf or remove all tagcache* files in .rockbox |
| 14:21:07 | safetydan | which was going to be my next step :) |
| 14:21:09 | preglow | same problem i had, yes |
| 14:21:15 | chris05 | yeah they are but now when i try to download the cvs it says unknown host rockbox.haxx.se |
| 14:21:20 | preglow | Slasheri: ok, so once the disk has been scanned, i need to reboot? |
| 14:21:27 | Slasheri | preglow: yes |
| 14:21:48 | Slasheri | preglow: and then it should take a few seconds while display shows "committing tagcache" |
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| 14:22:17 | Massa | chris05, it seems your network connection does not work anymore :( |
| 14:22:28 | preglow | Slasheri: btw, what is the update procedure? does it detect if a file has gotten its metadata changed in any way? |
| 14:22:57 | chris05 | oooooo i accendely uncheck it from being connected |
| 14:23:51 | Slasheri | preglow: currently it detects only when new files has been added |
| 14:24:22 | chris05 | massa, its downloading it again :) and the date is set right now too! |
| 14:24:29 | preglow | Slasheri: exactly the same thing happened again |
| 14:24:32 | Slasheri | preglow: if tagcache is loaded to ram, new files should be detected automatically |
| 14:24:51 | preglow | so something weird is afoot |
| 14:24:52 | Slasheri | preglow: then there is a problem with the fixed buffer allocation.. |
| 14:25:01 | Slasheri | if you can, please try to debug it :) |
| 14:25:03 | Massa | chris05, we'll see if it works on the next make :D |
| 14:25:04 | preglow | haha |
| 14:25:04 | safetydan | hrrm... I thought logf builds were fixed recently |
| 14:25:10 | preglow | ok, i'll give it a couple of mins |
| 14:25:11 | Slasheri | at least, checking the tempbuf_size with logf would help |
| 14:25:17 | Slasheri | nice :) |
| 14:25:20 | safetydan | mp3_encoder.c: In function `filter_subband': |
| 14:25:20 | safetydan | mp3_encoder.c:1470: error: can't find a register in class `ADDR_REGS' while reloading `asm' |
| 14:25:24 | preglow | safetydan: still a problem in mp3_encoder |
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| 14:25:36 | preglow | safetydan: someone should just add -fomit-frame-pointer properly to the debug builds |
| 14:25:46 | preglow | safetydan: there's _no_ reason not to include it, we have no gdb stub |
| 14:25:50 | safetydan | true |
| 14:26:08 | preglow | either that, or give the DEBUG symbol its proper meaning |
| 14:26:13 | preglow | right now it means 'compiled with gdb stub' |
| 14:26:22 | preglow | so i can't use it for checking whether to use asm routines |
| 14:27:03 | amiconn | Bah, gcc bug!!! |
| 14:27:38 | amiconn | Really nasty one |
| 14:28:45 | safetydan | updating tagcache |
| 14:28:52 | safetydan | skipping, cache alrea |
| 14:29:02 | safetydan | so apparently it thinks my cache is up to date |
| 14:29:10 | preglow | arghgh1!!! what a blessing it is to develope remotely |
| 14:29:36 | safetydan | I think I'll delete the cache files |
| 14:29:38 | Slasheri | safetydan: nope, in fact logf("skipping, cache already waiting for commit"); |
| 14:29:41 | linuxstb | Slasheri: It never seems to get past the tagcache_tmp.tcd stage on my ipod. |
| 14:29:42 | chris05 | massa, im back to the make command ill tell u if it works this time! |
| 14:29:54 | Slasheri | so it hasn't been committed. Probably same problem preglow is having too |
| 14:30:15 | safetydan | woo, I'm not alone |
| 14:30:29 | Massa | chris05, shall we open a private window so that I don't miss you're next step? |
| 14:30:29 | * | amiconn wonders what the hell gcc is doing here |
| 14:30:52 | chris05 | yah |
| 14:31:17 | preglow | Slasheri: tempbuf_size is -823118589... |
| 14:31:27 | amiconn | It just made a jumptable for switch (byte ranges) where the last destination offset overflows the range (bytes are sign-extended and gcc used 0x80) |
| 14:31:34 | safetydan | okay, now it's happily updating |
| 14:31:35 | preglow | amiconn: hah |
| 14:32:25 | preglow | nice to see gcc hasn't lost its sense of humour |
| 14:32:35 | * | amiconn wonders why this bug didn't strike earlier |
| 14:32:51 | amiconn | The code is practically identical to what is in sound.c |
| 14:33:27 | chris05 | massa, i tryed opening a private one i dont know if it worked if it doesnt do u use msn? |
| 14:33:54 | JdGordon | any1 know how many seconds the full audio buffer can hold (h300) ? |
| 14:35:13 | preglow | Slasheri: audiobufend is 0xffffffff |
| 14:35:18 | Slasheri | preglow: eh, that's really nice.. :D try this: |
| 14:35:38 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Are you talking about the compressed data buffer, or the decoded data (PCM) buffer? |
| 14:35:41 | Slasheri | line 1372 in tagcache.c, change int to unsigned long |
| 14:36:10 | preglow | Slasheri: how will that help when audiobufend is clearly wrong? |
| 14:36:27 | Slasheri | preglow: ah, then it doesn't help if that's really wrong.. |
| 14:36:36 | JdGordon | linuxstb: i mean, whats the theoreticla max it can buffer? i wanna know sort of how much buffer-ability u lose if u enable the dir/tag caches.. |
| 14:36:40 | Slasheri | hmm, then i wonder the player even works at all |
| 14:36:48 | Slasheri | are you sure it's wrong? |
| 14:37:03 | preglow | logf("%x %x", audiobufend, audiobuf); |
| 14:37:11 | preglow | right around line 1372 |
| 14:37:20 | preglow | it gave the values 0xffffffff and 0x310fc820 |
| 14:37:27 | preglow | both of which are completely wrong |
| 14:38:03 | Slasheri | ah, true.. :/ |
| 14:38:19 | preglow | but that shouldn't happen, now should it |
| 14:38:21 | Slasheri | that doesn't look very good then |
| 14:38:34 | * | amiconn reordered the case: s to work around that bug :/ |
| 14:39:11 | Slasheri | preglow: but dircache works fine? |
| 14:39:29 | preglow | Slasheri: fine like wine |
| 14:39:45 | Slasheri | then audiobuf has to be correct.. and the end address is wrong |
| 14:40:00 | linuxstb | JdGordon: That obviously depends on the bitrate of your files. The audio buffer is around 29MB-30MB (I think you can see the value in Info->Rockbox Info) |
| 14:40:16 | amiconn | Hmm. I would need a test file with different frequencies in left & right channel... |
| 14:40:17 | preglow | ahh, of course, it's right, i forgot the memory map |
| 14:40:53 | Slasheri | preglow: hmm, but the end address is still wrong? |
| 14:41:00 | * | amiconn wonders whether it's possible to create such a file with audacity |
| 14:41:00 | preglow | well, yeah |
| 14:41:06 | preglow | i can't see how 0xffffffff can't be wrong |
| 14:41:17 | Massa | chris05, is the make process finished now (hopefully successful)? |
| 14:41:21 | safetydan | okay, I let it rebuild again and same thing, it's not comitting the the cache |
| 14:41:39 | preglow | safetydan: try logfing the audiobufend variable |
| 14:41:43 | Slasheri | preglow: try to remove extern char *audiobufend in the beginning of tagcache.c to see if that helps |
| 14:41:45 | chris05 | yeah |
| 14:41:51 | Slasheri | no other file defines it either |
| 14:42:03 | chris05 | are you getting my private message or is that not workin? |
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| 14:42:27 | Mikachu | you need to be registered or Massa needs to set +6 on himself with nickserv |
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| 14:42:36 | preglow | Slasheri: compiler error, undefined bla bla |
| 14:42:43 | Mikachu | or you could do a dcc chat |
| 14:42:46 | Slasheri | ah :/ |
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| 14:43:01 | Massa | chris05, that's great! You now have created your first own bleeding edge build! |
| 14:43:14 | chris05 | nice! now what lol |
| 14:43:19 | Massa | chris05, no I don't get a private message. |
| 14:43:43 | amiconn | Hmm. Something is clearly wrong in the mas pcm codec docs |
| 14:44:30 | chris05 | i logged in with mirc if that makes it any easyer lol |
| 14:45:28 | Massa | chris05, you now can additionally make a zip file with your build with "make zip" - it creates a rockbox.zip in your build directory |
| 14:45:34 | * | linuxstb does the "I've just finished ripping all of my 387 CDs" dance |
| 14:45:44 | * | Mikachu gives linuxstb a cookie |
| 14:45:58 | * | JdGordon sends linuxstb's info to the riaa :D |
| 14:46:01 | preglow | Slasheri: but audiobufend is a hard coded linker symbiol |
| 14:46:03 | Slasheri | preglow: remove both of the extern defines and include buffer.h |
| 14:46:04 | JdGordon | linuxstb: to flac? |
| 14:46:09 | Slasheri | then it should compile |
| 14:46:14 | preglow | Slasheri: so something has to be wrong in the linker script |
| 14:46:16 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Yes. Took me three weeks :) |
| 14:46:30 | JdGordon | bloody hell! how much disk space is the whole collection? |
| 14:46:30 | Slasheri | preglow: then i wonder why playback engine doesn't crash.. |
| 14:46:38 | Massa | chris05, you can then unpack that zip to your device - as you usual do with the downloaded bleeding edge builds... |
| 14:46:42 | Mikachu | 387*450MB or so i'd guess |
| 14:46:51 | chris05 | alright cool |
| 14:46:53 | linuxstb | JdGordon: About 100GB |
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| 14:47:01 | JdGordon | dam! |
| 14:47:08 | chris05 | how would i do the patches then? |
| 14:47:09 | Slasheri | |#ifdef SIMULATOR |
| 14:47:09 | Slasheri | |extern unsigned char *audiobufend; |
| 14:47:09 | Slasheri | |#else |
| 14:47:09 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Slasheri |
| 14:47:09 | Slasheri | |extern unsigned char audiobufend[]; |
| 14:47:11 | Slasheri | |#endif |
| 14:47:14 | Slasheri | preglow: maybe that was the problem |
| 14:47:18 | | Part huntermic |
| 14:47:24 | Slasheri | so buffer.h defines it correctly |
| 14:47:24 | Mikachu | 258MB/cd on average then |
| 14:47:25 | Massa | chris05, but I assume you first have to get access to that zip from windows - there must be something about at the instructions... |
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| 14:47:35 | chris05 | yeah i figure it out |
| 14:47:42 | chris05 | i just type \\debian\user |
| 14:47:50 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I have a fair number of 3 or 4 track CD singles which brings the average down. |
| 14:47:55 | chris05 | into run and it opens as a network place |
| 14:47:55 | Mikachu | ah |
| 14:48:02 | preglow | Slasheri: that did the trick |
| 14:48:05 | Massa | chris05, cool :) |
| 14:48:05 | Mikachu | but swapping the discs is the boring part |
| 14:48:05 | preglow | Slasheri: commiting tagcache |
| 14:48:10 | Slasheri | preglow: great! :) |
| 14:48:17 | Slasheri | i will commit a fix |
| 14:48:26 | Massa | chris05, now we can start with patching the sources ;) |
| 14:48:33 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes, and cleaning up the freedb info. |
| 14:48:33 | amiconn | preglow: I found a 'fun' effect: The MAS stereo matrix seems to have that overflow problem we were talking about regarding to the swcodec matrix |
| 14:48:35 | preglow | but how come only i was bitten by the bug? :> |
| 14:48:40 | preglow | amiconn: hahaha |
| 14:48:44 | chris05 | okay im ready! |
| 14:48:50 | preglow | amiconn: only for pcm, or+ |
| 14:48:54 | amiconn | yes |
| 14:48:55 | Mikachu | preglow: it didn't work for me either, if you mean tagcache |
| 14:49:03 | safetydan | preglow, and me as well |
| 14:49:11 | JdGordon | any1 know how doom is going? is it gonna get into 3.0? |
| 14:49:13 | Mikachu | i just thought you were handling it so well |
| 14:49:19 | Massa | go to your users home directory inside your vmware session (just "cd") |
| 14:49:20 | preglow | ahh, k |
| 14:49:37 | Slasheri | Mikachu: now it should have been fixed, just update the cvs |
| 14:49:41 | chris05 | k got that |
| 14:49:42 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 14:49:42 | * | preglow browses by tags! |
| 14:49:48 | Slasheri | preglow: hehe :) |
| 14:49:55 | Mikachu | i'm not sure i want to use it if it won't let me browse files without going into the settings menu first |
| 14:50:06 | Massa | chris05, create a new subdirectory ("patches" - or whatever you want to name your directory holding the patches) |
| 14:50:21 | chris05 | alright |
| 14:50:23 | linuxstb | Mikachu: I agree. A simple "Browse ID3 tags" type menu option could hopefully fix that. |
| 14:50:32 | Mikachu | good |
| 14:50:39 | Massa | chris05, transfer the patches you want to add to that directory (from windows) |
| 14:51:00 | Mikachu | or just Browse by tags |
| 14:51:05 | preglow | oop, crash |
| 14:51:14 | Mikachu | or (and this is going out on a limb) "Music" |
| 14:51:20 | chris05 | okay i will just transfer that album art one for now |
| 14:51:33 | chris05 | and i got that done |
| 14:51:56 | Massa | chris05, I don't know exactly if samba changes the format - you need to have it in unix format! |
| 14:52:07 | JdGordon | .. is tagcache in cvs yet? or still mucking around with testing? |
| 14:52:14 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Yes, it's in CVS. |
| 14:52:21 | Massa | chris05, do you have basic knowledge about vi? |
| 14:52:37 | * | JdGordon udates... |
| 14:52:42 | chris05 | no :( |
| 14:53:00 | chris05 | well i dont think so what is vi? |
| 14:53:37 | Massa | chris05, the famous "special" Unix text editor - people who don't know about it hate it usually ;) |
| 14:53:47 | amiconn | That's it. No more distortion if I go from 0x80000 to 0x80001 |
| 14:53:55 | Paprica | could someone check this out and commit it if it's ok? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3036 |
| 14:54:01 | Massa | chris05, is the command unix2dos available inside your vmware? |
| 14:54:58 | Mikachu | if you don't have that, try fromdos |
| 14:55:12 | JdGordon | sorry.. where is the option to enable it? |
| 14:56:01 | chris05 | well i typed in unix2dos and it said command not found and i think mikachu was talking to me and i tryed that and it said the same |
| 14:56:11 | Mikachu | okay |
| 14:56:17 | Slasheri | JdGordon: in playback menu |
| 14:56:37 | Massa | Does someone know if transferring patch files from windows to inside a vmware image convert the fileformat from windows to unix? |
| 14:56:54 | Massa | chris05, and u2d? |
| 14:57:05 | Mikachu | does he have wget? he could just download the image in vmware directly |
| 14:57:17 | Massa | chris05, actually "u2d −−help" ;) |
| 14:57:28 | Massa | chris05, or "recode"? |
| 14:57:31 | amiconn | preglow: The karaoke formula needs to be fixed (for both hwcodec and swcodec). It overflows... |
| 14:58:05 | safetydan | yay, now it says comitting tagcache |
| 14:58:26 | chris05 | nope none of them |
| 14:58:36 | amiconn | There's also a problem with custom stereo width... |
| 14:58:42 | safetydan | I assume it's known that rockbox.org cvs pages don't seem to be working right? |
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| 14:58:53 | * | amiconn needs to redo the formula for >100% |
| 14:58:54 | Massa | cris05, so I'll try to tell you how to use "vi" / "vim"... |
| 14:58:58 | Massa | chris05, so I'll try to tell you how to use "vi" / "vim"... |
| 14:58:59 | Slasheri | safetydan: yep, the build system seems to be down |
| 14:59:20 | Massa | chris05, go to the patch directory |
| 14:59:33 | chris05 | okayok |
| 14:59:37 | webguest87-2 | chris05: apt-get install tofrodos |
| 14:59:48 | amiconn | It must be: abs(channel_straight_factor) + abs(channel_cross_factor) < 1 |
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| 15:00:14 | Massa | chris05, follow wbguest87's instructions - of course as root again... |
| 15:00:20 | amiconn | Otherwise it overflows if the signals in both channels are uncorrelated |
| 15:00:39 | * | safetydan also browses by tags |
| 15:00:49 | safetydan | now I have to get my tags fixed |
| 15:00:58 | amiconn | t0mas: Still no rebuild? |
| 15:01:09 | chris05 | what was it that i typed earlyer to log in as roo somethin -root |
| 15:02:04 | elinenbe | is there any description of how to use tagcache anywhere? |
| 15:02:20 | tucoz | elinenbe, in the current irc-log |
| 15:02:32 | elinenbe | earlier today? :-) |
| 15:02:48 | tucoz | yes, like the last 2 hours perhaps |
| 15:02:48 | Massa | chris05, "su - root" - that means "substitute user", the "-" means to execute the environment as if the user logs in and "root" means the user you want to become... |
| 15:03:10 | preglow | amiconn: sure it can overflow |
| 15:03:17 | Massa | chris05, when you're finished with your root task - you just enter "exit" and you'll back as "user" |
| 15:03:36 | preglow | amiconn: i don't even know if i'm using your formula for swcodec karaoke, btw, i just did something i'd thought work there |
| 15:03:59 | chris05 | ahhh alright when i typed in that it said E: couldnt find package tofrodos |
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| 15:05:03 | Massa | webguest87-2, do you have experience with the rockbox vmware stuff? |
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| 15:07:55 | Massa | chris05, o.k. back to plan B, the vi stuff; exit the root environment with "exit" |
| 15:08:16 | chris05 | okay |
| 15:08:31 | Massa | chris05: you're now in the patches directory? |
| 15:08:36 | chris05 | yup |
| 15:08:55 | Bger | hm, should i close this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1314 |
| 15:08:56 | Massa | chris05: open the patch inside the vi-Editor: "vi <filename>" |
| 15:09:32 | chris05 | ok got that open |
| 15:10:17 | Massa | chris05, just a moment - I have to do something in real life - I'm back in a few minutes.. |
| 15:10:23 | chris05 | ok |
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| 15:10:32 | amiconn | preglow: You did use my formula for karaoke... |
| 15:10:49 | preglow | karaoke is useless anyway |
| 15:10:53 | preglow | it makes everything sound like crap |
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| 15:11:01 | amiconn | I.e. left_out = left_in - right_in; right_out = right_in - left_in; |
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| 15:11:28 | amiconn | That cancels mono sounds, but uncorrelated sounds add up... |
| 15:11:40 | amiconn | ...so it has to be /= 2 |
| 15:12:12 | amiconn | That is, in case we have to expect uncorrelated sounds. Do we? |
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| 15:12:25 | amiconn | Same goes for variable stereo width |
| 15:12:42 | Mikachu | i'd say there's a pretty high chance of one channel being near -1 and the other near +1 at a given time |
| 15:12:54 | Mikachu | but that's just going by intuition |
| 15:13:23 | Bger | amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1597 ? |
| 15:13:30 | arf-arf | anyone know the root p/w for the debian image? I need to set the clock |
| 15:13:48 | chris05 | arf-arf, rockbox |
| 15:13:52 | preglow | amiconn: it sure can happen |
| 15:14:03 | arf-arf | cheers chris5 |
| 15:14:19 | preglow | amiconn: if left sample is -32768 and right sample is 32768, then wee |
| 15:14:29 | preglow | amiconn: 32767... |
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| 15:14:46 | amiconn | Bg3r: It doesn't mention a target... I assume archos recorders/ player |
| 15:14:56 | amiconn | Doesn't really make sense to me |
| 15:15:10 | amiconn | Using just one button for hold defeats its purpose |
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| 15:15:30 | amiconn | ON can easily become permanently pressed in a bag |
| 15:15:47 | amiconn | preglow: Yes that's what I mean |
| 15:16:07 | amiconn | The question is how likely this will happen |
| 15:16:10 | preglow | amiconn: well, there's nothing else you can do about that particular bug than halve the volume on each channel |
| 15:16:25 | preglow | amiconn: it might very well happen |
| 15:16:31 | preglow | amiconn: not to such a large degree as that, though |
| 15:16:34 | amiconn | Halve the aplitude, not halve the volume |
| 15:16:43 | amiconn | *amplitude |
| 15:16:49 | preglow | same shit |
| 15:16:53 | preglow | different wrods |
| 15:16:54 | Mikachu | heh |
| 15:16:55 | amiconn | That's 6dB |
| 15:16:56 | preglow | wrods, yes, wrods |
| 15:17:15 | amiconn | Nah, we just have to, it seems |
| 15:17:18 | preglow | each scale factor needs to be 0.5 og -0.5 |
| 15:17:21 | Bger | amiconn should i close it ? |
| 15:17:29 | preglow | s/og/and/... |
| 15:18:00 | linuxstb | Has anyone successfully used tagcache on an ipod yet? |
| 15:18:02 | preglow | i feel the time of my shutting up getting closer |
| 15:18:09 | amiconn | Bg3r: I think so. It's also ooold... |
| 15:18:42 | Bger | yeah :) |
| 15:18:49 | midkay | linuxstb, has a fix been committed? |
| 15:19:10 | preglow | linuxstb: it's consistently a prefetch abort? |
| 15:20:08 | linuxstb | preglow: It's not finishing building the database - tagcache_tmp.tcd never goes away. |
| 15:20:13 | Massa | chris05, I'm back... |
| 15:20:23 | Massa | chris05: ist the file still open in vi? |
| 15:20:36 | chris05 | yea |
| 15:21:01 | Massa | chris05: press ":" and you should be in the bottom line and see a blinking cursor |
| 15:21:50 | tucoz | linuxstb, did you update to latest cvs? I got the same on my h120, but now it works |
| 15:21:59 | Massa | chris05? |
| 15:22:11 | preglow | also, is diskcache mandatory? |
| 15:22:14 | preglow | dircache, even |
| 15:22:15 | chris05 | it took me to the bottom of the page but not the end of the whole thing |
| 15:22:42 | linuxstb | tucoz: Yes, I've updated with Slasheri's fix. |
| 15:22:45 | chris05 | if i press page down a bunch of times it takes me to the very bottom |
| 15:22:50 | Massa | chris05: that is correct, it's called the "command mode" :) |
| 15:22:52 | tucoz | linuxstb, ok. |
| 15:23:03 | chris05 | ok |
| 15:23:12 | Massa | chris05: enter "set fileformat" in that line and press <enter> |
| 15:23:19 | linuxstb | tucoz: In fact, I just realised I'm still running the old version.... |
| 15:23:28 | amiconn | preglow: It shouldn't. Tagcache is designed to work with and without dircache, even with no dircache compiled in |
| 15:23:41 | Massa | chris05: what does it say? |
| 15:23:56 | amiconn | Then it won't be loaded into ram but used from disk like lod tagdb |
| 15:23:56 | tucoz | linuxstb, :) Hopefully that fixes it. |
| 15:24:02 | amiconn | s/lod/old/ |
| 15:24:15 | preglow | linuxstb: i get as far as commiting tagcache |
| 15:24:18 | chris05 | set: no filemormat option: 'set all' gives all option values |
| 15:24:20 | preglow | then a data bort |
| 15:24:21 | preglow | abort |
| 15:24:24 | preglow | i will check the cause now |
| 15:24:35 | amiconn | t0mas: We need builds!! |
| 15:24:43 | Massa | chris05: "fileformat", not "filemormat" |
| 15:24:51 | amiconn | maybe Bagder can do sth as well... |
| 15:25:14 | linuxstb | Would it be a big task to add a "Browse database" option to the main menu - and leave the file browser working normally? |
| 15:25:30 | Massa | chris05: you have to press ":" again - it leaves command mode after entering a command... |
| 15:25:58 | amiconn | linuxstb: My idea was to add avirtual directory linking to the tag(db|cache) |
| 15:26:14 | preglow | some place faaaar into commit |
| 15:26:27 | preglow | some store fails |
| 15:26:28 | chris05 | sorry typeo it says "set: no fileformat option set all gives all option values" |
| 15:26:38 | amiconn | Would work the same way as the virtual directories added by multivolume support |
| 15:27:07 | Massa | chris05: in command mode enter "version" and press <enter> - which version does it show? |
| 15:27:37 | chris05 | Version 1.79 |
| 15:28:19 | Slasheri | preglow: ah, in fact there is still one alignment issue |
| 15:28:20 | chris05 | Version 1.79 (10/23/96) is that sayin its from back in 96 :o |
| 15:28:30 | Slasheri | preglow: at which point it does crash? |
| 15:28:34 | Massa | chris05, huh!? What's that for a version??? |
| 15:28:39 | preglow | Slasheri: in commit, trying to identify the code line now |
| 15:28:53 | Slasheri | oh, that's weird |
| 15:29:03 | Massa | chris05: O.K. - we'll try plan C :) |
| 15:29:06 | linuxstb | I've also just got a data abort at 00031438 |
| 15:29:14 | Mikachu | no c0edbabes today? |
| 15:29:22 | chris05 | lol ok good thing u can plan ahead and get all of these plan |
| 15:29:23 | Slasheri | preglow: i was hoping it would crash after the commit |
| 15:29:24 | preglow | unfortunately, no |
| 15:29:31 | Massa | chris05: enter "1,$s/b |
| 15:29:33 | preglow | Slasheri: no, it definitely crashed during commit |
| 15:30:02 | chris05 | it did something im not sure what tho |
| 15:30:20 | linuxstb | My data abort it in tempbuf_unique_insert(). |
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| 15:30:52 | Massa | chris05: shit - my text was a typo... - I hope it does not destroy anything. |
| 15:30:59 | chris05 | now at the bottom it says 139 lines changes |
| 15:31:01 | t0mas | amiconn: correction... we need Bagder |
| 15:31:11 | Massa | chris05: just press u (without entering command mode) |
| 15:31:12 | chris05 | changed* |
| 15:31:32 | chris05 | k |
| 15:31:51 | Massa | chris05, did it still say changed? |
| 15:32:24 | chris05 | it went back up to the top and says 139 lines changed, would it be better if i closed it and opend it back up? |
| 15:32:28 | Massa | chris05: to be sure we didn't change the file, go to command mode and enter "q!" and press <enter> |
| 15:32:57 | Massa | chris05: this will close the file without saving the changes and brings you back to the command line |
| 15:33:26 | Massa | chris05: try to open the file with "vim" instead of "vi" |
| 15:33:30 | chris05 | ok did that and then i opend it back in vi like last time |
| 15:33:38 | chris05 | o oops |
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| 15:34:37 | Massa | chris05: did you leave it again and try to reopen in vim? |
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| 15:34:52 | Massa | chris05: (I hope vim is available)... |
| 15:34:56 | chris05 | i closed it and then tryed opening it with vim and it said command not found |
| 15:35:20 | Massa | chris05: shit - so we have to keep the vi; reopen it in vi |
| 15:35:40 | chris05 | is there a way to get vim easily or not |
| 15:35:49 | webguest87-2 | apt-get install vim |
| 15:36:01 | webguest87-2 | Debian ships with nvi and nano as editors by default |
| 15:36:15 | webguest87-2 | (nano being a Free clone of pico) |
| 15:36:27 | webguest87-2 | (and also a horrible pun) |
| 15:36:33 | Massa | actually it seems not be possible to apt-get anything... |
| 15:36:43 | webguest87-2 | What, network not working? |
| 15:36:48 | chris05 | apt-get worked i think for vim |
| 15:37:22 | webguest87-2 | oh, tofrodos didn't work? That's probably new to Debian sid then, sysutils should haved dos2unix then |
| 15:37:24 | chris05 | "after unpacking 15.24 of addininal space will be used" "do you want to continue" |
| 15:37:25 | Mikachu | webguest87-2: how is it a pun? |
| 15:37:35 | webguest87-2 | Mikachu, well, a play on words |
| 15:37:38 | Massa | huh? :-| And it did not work for the "tofrodos"? |
| 15:37:41 | webguest87-2 | not an actual pun, I guess |
| 15:37:56 | webguest87-2 | Massa: tofrodos is not in sarge, I think |
| 15:38:04 | Massa | chris05, say yes! |
| 15:38:07 | webguest87-2 | it was split out from sysutils after sarge |
| 15:38:42 | Massa | chris05: I mean press "y" and maybe <enter> - just sitting in front of your computer and saying "yes" will not help :D |
| 15:38:52 | chris05 | lol |
| 15:39:13 | Mikachu | haha, i don't remember what package it is but one ./configure outputs "configure succeeded, say 'make' to compile" |
| 15:39:15 | Massa | webguest87-2: do you know in which package the unix2dos tools are? |
| 15:39:33 | webguest87-2 | sysutils, iirc |
| 15:39:40 | Massa | Mickachu, lol |
| 15:39:44 | webguest87-2 | apt-cache search unix2os should reveal it |
| 15:40:07 | webguest87-2 | without the typo |
| 15:41:00 | Massa | chris05 - did it work? |
| 15:41:38 | chris05 | could not connect to ftp.se.debian.org:80 |
| 15:42:26 | Massa | chris05: you were able to install vim? And unable to do a "apt-chache search unix2dos"? |
| 15:44:02 | Massa | chris05 - I have to go away for about 15 or 20 minutes - when I'm back we'll continue, ok? |
| 15:44:06 | chris05 | no after i pressed y it said connecting to ftp.debian.org... and stayed at zero percent |
| 15:44:07 | chris05 | okay |
| 15:44:24 | chris05 | i will see if i can get this vim thing installed i t hink i get the idea |
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| 15:54:50 | chris05 | webguest87, is there any reason when it tyred to connect to ftp.se.debian.org it doesnt work? |
| 15:55:15 | webguest87-2 | chris05: Do you have connection elsewhere? ping rockbox.org or something |
| 15:56:33 | chris05 | yeah it gets that but whenever i tryed to do the apt-get install vim it does that and askes for me to press y and then when its connectiong it stays at 0% and eventualy times out |
| 15:58:15 | chris05 | and then i just pinged ftp.se.debian.org and it replys with that too :| |
| 15:58:48 | chris05 | o wow it worked this time |
| 15:59:02 | Mikachu | it has a couple of ips, maybe one of them is down |
| 15:59:10 | chris05 | ahh maybe |
| 15:59:43 | chris05 | do u think massa would rather work with vim or unix2dos? |
| 15:59:52 | webguest87-2 | Depends on what you want to do |
| 15:59:54 | Mikachu | unix2dos would be a lot easier |
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| 16:00:00 | Mikachu | er |
| 16:00:07 | Mikachu | dos2unix is probably what you want though |
| 16:00:37 | chris05 | im not sure what it does but im trying to patch from vmware and the debian image |
| 16:00:48 | Mikachu | chris05: do you have the command 'wget' ? |
| 16:01:11 | chris05 | i think so i typed wget and said missing url |
| 16:01:35 | Mikachu | okay, if you just type wget and the url to the patch it should be fine.. |
| 16:03:10 | chris05 | to the zip? |
| 16:03:28 | Mikachu | what patch are we looking at? |
| 16:03:35 | chris05 | i got 3 diff ppl tryin to help me out lol maybe i should wait for massa |
| 16:03:39 | chris05 | the album_art one |
| 16:03:40 | Mikachu | hehe |
| 16:04:09 | Mikachu | hm, if you transfer the zip to debian and unzip it there it might work better |
| 16:04:31 | Mikachu | but i don't think i know exactly what the problem is |
| 16:04:54 | webguest87-2 | Any news on the WMA front? |
| 16:05:07 | Mikachu | i haven't heard anything |
| 16:05:07 | chris05 | o they are just explaining on how to patch all together |
| 16:05:53 | safetydan | webguest87-2, the guy working on it hasn't said anything for a while |
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| 16:08:08 | Massa | Now I'm back again |
| 16:08:31 | Massa | chris05, any progress? |
| 16:09:14 | chris05 | i got vim installed how do i do the apt-cache search unix2dos it just went to the next like |
| 16:09:36 | chris05 | next line* |
| 16:10:22 | webguest87-2 | apt-get install sysutils |
| 16:10:33 | webguest87-2 | That holds dos2unix and unix2dos |
| 16:10:42 | webguest87-2 | (as well as some other utilities) |
| 16:12:10 | chris05 | hmmm its staying at zero again |
| 16:12:35 | Massa | what do you mean with "its staying at zero"? |
| 16:12:57 | webguest87-2 | The download stalls |
| 16:13:00 | chris05 | well i dunno whenever i use the apt-get when its connecting to fpt.se.debina.org |
| 16:13:01 | webguest87-2 | Try again |
| 16:13:14 | chris05 | but it works if i cancel it and ping it and then do it cause its workin now |
| 16:13:25 | preglow | amiconn: is there much left in your lang rework? |
| 16:13:50 | chris05 | unix2dos works now :) |
| 16:14:04 | webguest87-2 | or you could use ftp.us.debian.org - edit (vim or nano) /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of ftp.se.debian.org to ftp.us.debian.org and run apt-get update |
| 16:14:22 | Massa | dos2unix is what we need here ;) |
| 16:14:36 | | Quit zoneout ("Leaving") |
| 16:14:47 | chris05 | okay dos2unix works too! |
| 16:15:19 | chris05 | should i stay in as root or go back to user |
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| 16:16:07 | Massa | good - now go back to your "user" (except if you want to update your debian system as webguest87-2 suggests) |
| 16:16:24 | chris05 | im not sure how i would do that |
| 16:16:40 | chris05 | can i do that from windows later or not? |
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| 16:16:54 | chris05 | from connecting to the network share |
| 16:17:25 | Massa | No, you have to do it from inside your virtual debian - but you can do it later (if you want - it's optional ;)) |
| 16:17:38 | Massa | are you back in your patches dir? |
| 16:17:40 | chris05 | ok sounds better later |
| 16:18:08 | Massa | let's still have a look at the patch - even if we have dos2unix now, open the file with "vim" |
| 16:19:08 | chris05 | ahhhh brb computer needs a restart |
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| 16:22:41 | Jungti1234 | damn! |
| 16:22:50 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 16:23:01 | Jungti1234 | anyone? |
| 16:23:21 | Massa | Hi Jungti1234! |
| 16:23:31 | Jungti1234 | ok ummm |
| 16:23:37 | Jungti1234 | Bagder |
| 16:23:46 | Jungti1234 | t0mas |
| 16:24:19 | t0mas | hm? |
| 16:24:33 | Jungti1234 | To whom is copyright of Rockbox logo? |
| 16:24:41 | t0mas | ehm... |
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| 16:24:47 | * | t0mas really doesn't know |
| 16:24:55 | t0mas | It might be rasher... |
| 16:24:56 | Jungti1234 | klsjfqklf |
| 16:25:00 | Massa | chris05? Are you here again? |
| 16:25:05 | t0mas | why are you asking? |
| 16:25:13 | chris05 | yep starting back up vmware |
| 16:25:15 | t0mas | you are allowed to use the rockbox logo inside rockbox :) |
| 16:25:21 | Jungti1234 | I may go mad. |
| 16:25:26 | t0mas | good luck |
| 16:25:30 | Mikachu | isn't it licensed under the gpl too? |
| 16:25:31 | t0mas | shall I call a shrink? |
| 16:25:31 | Jungti1234 | ajfhakfk |
| 16:25:49 | Jungti1234 | bmmmmm |
| 16:25:57 | Massa | chris05: you mean copying your vmware image? |
| 16:26:15 | * | webguest87-2 thinks the logo was done by a friend of Linus or Bagder |
| 16:26:27 | chris05 | no im starting the vmware image like booting it up |
| 16:26:48 | Jungti1234 | 1. Each language proper name of Rockbox |
| 16:27:05 | Massa | chris05: O.K., tell me when you're back in the patches dir... |
| 16:27:28 | Jungti1234 | 2. Clear correctly copyright of Rockbox logo |
| 16:28:27 | Jungti1234 | I'm arguing with people. |
| 16:28:47 | chris05 | ok im back to the patches dir and u wanted me to open it with vim |
| 16:29:42 | Jungti1234 | 'To whom really is copyright of Rockbox logo?' 'How must Rockbox speak in Korean?' |
| 16:29:53 | Massa | chris05: yes - does it work? If yes, go to the command mode and enter "set fileformat" and <enter>. What is the result now? |
| 16:29:56 | chris05 | it says "album_art.patch" [new file] |
| 16:30:18 | Jungti1234 | hey t0mas |
| 16:30:44 | Jungti1234 | Can't I use logo in wikipedia? |
| 16:31:00 | chris05 | nvm i had 2 patches dir on accedent |
| 16:31:05 | Massa | chris05: new file? Then you didn't open the existing patch... |
| 16:31:23 | * | webguest87-2 notes 2 areas of uncertainty |
| 16:31:24 | chris05 | yeah i got it opend in vim now |
| 16:31:27 | t0mas | Jungti1234: I think you can.. |
| 16:31:29 | webguest87-2 | 1) logo copyright |
| 16:31:31 | t0mas | but I'm not sure |
| 16:31:34 | webguest87-2 | 2) wiki contents copyright |
| 16:31:34 | Jungti1234 | kdlwjqfjf |
| 16:31:36 | t0mas | ask Linus, Zagor or Bagder |
| 16:31:40 | t0mas | or try the mailinglist |
| 16:31:45 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 16:31:58 | Massa | chris05: go to command mode (":") and enter "set fileformat" followed by pressing <enter>. |
| 16:32:07 | Jungti1234 | webguest87-2: right.. |
| 16:32:16 | Jungti1234 | You're right........ |
| 16:32:20 | chris05 | k |
| 16:32:23 | webguest87-2 | Jungti1234: I don't think there are any clear answers to those right now |
| 16:32:35 | chris05 | now it says fileformat=unix |
| 16:32:40 | Jungti1234 | yes.. |
| 16:32:59 | Massa | chris: AAaaaargh! Everything we did in the last hour was not necessary :) :) :) |
| 16:33:06 | chris05 | LOL |
| 16:33:15 | chris05 | well i learned somethin at least! |
| 16:33:21 | Massa | chris05: it means, the patch is already in correct format and doesn't need transformation. |
| 16:33:34 | Massa | chris05: you can leave it with ":q!" |
| 16:33:50 | chris05 | okay lol |
| 16:33:53 | Massa | chris05: then go back to your rockbox directory |
| 16:34:14 | chris05 | ok |
| 16:34:39 | Massa | chris05: BTW, if it would have shown "fileformat=dos" you would have to change it with dos2unix.. |
| 16:34:53 | Massa | chris05: anyway... |
| 16:34:59 | Mikachu | chris05: you didn't see a lot of ^M at the end of every line? |
| 16:35:28 | chris05 | i dont think so i didnt look that close should i check again real quick? |
| 16:35:38 | Massa | Ahh, yes - good point. Sometimes vim misinterprets the files... |
| 16:36:26 | chris05 | ok i looked and there wasnt any |
| 16:36:37 | Massa | then it seems to be O.K. |
| 16:37:17 | chris05 | mmk |
| 16:37:19 | Massa | in your rockbox directory enter "patch -p0 < ../patches/album_art.patch" (or similar - depends on the location and name of the patch) |
| 16:37:49 | Mikachu | may i interject a little tip, give −−dry-run to patch too |
| 16:38:01 | Mikachu | that way you won't mess up the files in case it doesn't work |
| 16:38:15 | Mikachu | and if you don't get any errors, run the command without −−dry-run |
| 16:39:14 | chris05 | so patch -p0 −−dry-run < ../patches?album_art.patch first then without the −−dry-run |
| 16:39:15 | Massa | Good tip! |
| 16:39:36 | chris05 | - the question mark type |
| 16:39:45 | chris05 | typo** |
| 16:39:49 | Massa | Yes - when it succeeded on all files |
| 16:40:38 | chris05 | okay i did it and didnt see any errors so ill do the real deal now lol |
| 16:41:54 | Mikachu | hooray! |
| 16:41:55 | Massa | after that you can go back to your build directory and just "make" again (and "make zip" afterwards if you want) |
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| 16:42:35 | chris05 | brb gonna get me a cup of coffe ha lol |
| 16:42:51 | chris05 | jk lol but it took awhile but i think i got this down! |
| 16:43:37 | chris05 | alright well while im waiting for this to make what would i of done if the file was fileformat=dos? |
| 16:43:44 | Massa | and if you see at http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml that something changed, you just go to your rockbox directory and type "cvs update" this will get you the latest updatest. |
| 16:44:05 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 16:44:18 | Massa | Jungti1234: bye! |
| 16:44:23 | Jungti1234 | see you tomorrow |
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| 16:44:38 | MarcoPolo | is there a way to make a wps react on a key press ? |
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| 16:45:40 | Massa | chris05: you would have to convert it to unix file format. "dos2unix dospatch.patch > unixpatch.patch" |
| 16:46:05 | Mikachu | be sure to not use the same filename there, or you'll end up with an empty file |
| 16:46:08 | Massa | but if the transfer from windows already converts it to unix - you don't need to.. |
| 16:46:51 | Mikachu | you could just wget everything inside debian and you should have no problems |
| 16:46:53 | chris05 | alright so i can just open it in vim and : and then the fileformat |
| 16:47:11 | chris05 | alright and thats the wget urltopatch.patch |
| 16:48:08 | Massa | opening the file with vim was just an easy check if the file is in dos or unix format. |
| 16:48:28 | Mikachu | if you say file file, it should say if the file has dos or unix lineendings too |
| 16:48:29 | Massa | of course you're also able to change the fileformat in vim "set fileformat=unix" |
| 16:48:34 | Massa | and then write the file... |
| 16:49:56 | Massa | Mikachu: does not work - at least not here, there's no difference in both cases it says "RCS/CVS diff output text" |
| 16:50:07 | Mikachu | hm okay |
| 16:50:57 | Massa | chris05: happy patching - have you already transferred your selfmade build to your device? |
| 16:51:43 | Massa | chris05: I remember the first time I did this - it was exciting (H) |
| 16:52:37 | chris05 | yeah! |
| 16:53:09 | chris05 | lol o it is i started at like 1am this morning its like almost 7am now so lets hope it was worth it lol, it is always good to learn somethin new tho |
| 16:53:41 | Massa | most of the things only happen once - so now everything should go faster ;) |
| 16:53:46 | chris05 | thanks alot to all u who helped! lol i posed a thing on the forum to get help ill have to repost and ill metion u for helpin so much if u want |
| 16:53:52 | Massa | BTW, where are you from? |
| 16:54:22 | chris05 | washington, usa |
| 16:54:58 | Massa | Because here it is almost 5PM ;) (I'm from Germany) |
| 16:55:13 | chris05 | yeah i just spend all night learning this :) |
| 16:55:38 | safetydan | Is anyone going to strongly object if I try and move id3.c from firmware to apps? |
| 16:56:21 | Massa | So you're on your way? I can leave now and do some other stuff (drink a beer or two - or something like this)? (b) |
| 16:57:02 | chris05 | yeah go for it u deserve a couple for takein so much time to help me out:) |
| 16:58:10 | Massa | No problem - you're welcome!although I could have searched for some weird bugs inbetween |
| 16:58:38 | Massa | but it's O.K. - I'm currently not in the mood to do so... ;) |
| 16:59:06 | Massa | Bye everybody! |
| 16:59:11 | Mikachu | bye dr nick! |
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| 17:00:09 | TiMiD | safetydan: excelent idea |
| 17:00:24 | TiMiD | this one has nothing to do wih kernel code |
| 17:00:55 | safetydan | TiMiD, unfortunately it's not a simple thing... |
| 17:01:04 | TiMiD | yep |
| 17:01:13 | TiMiD | I'm looking at the code right now |
| 17:01:16 | safetydan | ah well, someone's got to try it :) |
| 17:01:49 | TiMiD | hehe that could be you |
| 17:02:18 | TiMiD | (because noone else wnats to put his hands into this dirty mess |
| 17:02:20 | TiMiD | oops |
| 17:02:42 | TiMiD | wel that file seems clean compared to some other |
| 17:03:34 | safetydan | it is clean, but moving it breaks the rest of the firmware compile |
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| 17:04:28 | TiMiD | it doesn't seems very bounded to the other kernel code though |
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| 17:05:52 | safetydan | yeah but other parts depend on the id3 parsing code |
| 17:06:14 | safetydan | well, I can compile swcodec |
| 17:06:17 | safetydan | now for hwcodec |
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| 17:20:33 | safetydan | no wonder no one's really got in to this before... it's like a maze of twisty little passages all subtley different |
| 17:21:06 | obo | are there any options to create a .map file, or if it's automatic, where would I find it? |
| 17:22:17 | safetydan | obo, try looking under apps in your build directory |
| 17:22:49 | obo | got it - thanks |
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| 17:24:00 | obo | Data abort at tempbuf_unique_insert in tagcache.o |
| 17:25:31 | MarcoPolo | do rockbox have some functions to work with files (ie. removing extensions etc.) |
| 17:26:06 | webguest87-2 | no |
| 17:26:16 | webguest87-2 | not as such |
| 17:26:18 | Slasheri | obo: thanks, i think i have found the bug |
| 17:26:27 | mirak | hello |
| 17:26:29 | Slasheri | it was just a simple typo |
| 17:26:39 | mirak | what's new in rockbox ? :) |
| 17:26:51 | webguest87-2 | mirak: tagcache's been committed |
| 17:27:08 | mirak | webguest87-2: what is it for ? |
| 17:27:18 | mirak | library browsing ? |
| 17:27:19 | webguest87-2 | metadata-based browsing |
| 17:27:22 | mirak | ok |
| 17:27:34 | mirak | so it's in daily build |
| 17:27:39 | webguest87-2 | Not yet |
| 17:27:54 | Slasheri | obo: i have updated the cvs, please try now :) |
| 17:28:11 | webguest87-2 | just went in today, and the cvs builds are not happening |
| 17:29:39 | arf-arf | slasheri, I've compiled a build with the tagcache (great work) |
| 17:29:54 | obo | Slasheri: thanks - it boots up okay now :) |
| 17:30:05 | arf-arf | but the tracks in albums aren't in order, usually they're in reverse order |
| 17:30:59 | arf-arf | or the first track is last but the rest are fine |
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| 17:38:04 | mirak | webguest87-2: hum it might be the reason, I logued with a new user and don't have this problem |
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| 17:38:19 | mirak | webguest87-2: sorry, wrgon channel |
| 17:39:42 | Slasheri | arf-arf: ah, yes. I will add sorting to those too |
| 17:40:51 | arf-arf | And how about a sorting mode that ignores "The " prefix to band names?? Cheeky, eh? |
| 17:40:57 | arf-arf | 8) |
| 17:42:01 | Slasheri | arf-arf: yep, i will do that too (in fact i had it working in previous test builds) |
| 17:43:46 | linuxstb | safetydan: I posted a message to the mailing list a few weeks ago describing the problems caused by moving id3.[ch] to apps/ |
| 17:44:27 | linuxstb | (on 12th Feb) |
| 17:44:57 | safetydan | linuxstb, I should have remembered that. I'll take a look |
| 17:45:58 | safetydan | so no answers to your questions then? |
| 17:47:15 | Mikachu | Slasheri: will 'the' also be an option? it doesn't feel natural to me since i'm not english |
| 17:48:07 | webguest87-2 | Huh, browsing songs I only see A-B? |
| 17:48:12 | webguest87-2 | That is, a* to b* |
| 17:49:58 | Cassandra | Hmmm - is something up with the website? It doesn't seem to have noticed today's commits. |
| 17:50:09 | webguest87-2 | The build system seems dead |
| 17:50:14 | webguest87-2 | and bagder is nowhere to be found |
| 17:50:36 | Cassandra | He was around earlier. Ah well. |
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| 17:52:34 | b00st4 | hi |
| 17:52:37 | b00st4 | any1 there? |
| 17:53:15 | webguest87-2 | 110 of us.. |
| 17:53:21 | b00st4 | i need help with applying a patch on my ipod 5g |
| 17:53:33 | b00st4 | ah, hello |
| 17:53:38 | Mikachu | ask chris05 when he comes back :P |
| 17:53:52 | webguest87-2 | b00st4: Can you build Rockbox? |
| 17:54:01 | MarcoPolo | if I recompile rockbox sources, do I only have to copy rockbox.ipod on my ipod ? or do I need all the .rockbox directory too ? |
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| 17:54:17 | webguest87-2 | MarcoPolo: You need .rockbox as well |
| 17:54:27 | webguest87-2 | (9 times out of 10, at least) |
| 17:54:39 | b00st4 | nah i mean if there is a patch like album_art_v3.5-MM_20060324.patch how can i get this working |
| 17:54:41 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, it's easiest if you do 'make zip' then unzip the rockbox.zip file on to your iPod |
| 17:54:59 | b00st4 | do i need an extra program or just open it witch rockbox running |
| 17:55:00 | safetydan | b00st4, you'll need to be able to compile rockbox first |
| 17:55:07 | webguest87-2 | b00st4: you need to be able to build Rockbox first |
| 17:55:30 | b00st4 | hm, hows that working, any aq? |
| 17:55:32 | b00st4 | faq |
| 17:55:46 | Slasheri | Mikachu: Hmm, probably it should be an option |
| 17:56:27 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: even if I only change things in rockbox core files ? (and if I already have .rockbox) |
| 17:56:38 | safetydan | b00st4, how much time do you have? You're looking at a few hours to get things compiling. |
| 17:57:02 | safetydan | MarcoPolo, probably not, but it's usually easiest to just copy the lot over |
| 17:57:14 | MarcoPolo | safetydan: ok |
| 17:57:14 | b00st4 | i got all the time i need |
| 17:57:19 | b00st4 | :) |
| 17:57:23 | webguest87-2 | MarcoPolo: possibly, yes.. changes to the core might affect codecs, plugins etc.. you might get lucky and only need rockbox. |
| 17:57:44 | b00st4 | is there no faq thoo? |
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| 17:58:03 | safetydan | b00st4, there is documentation |
| 17:58:10 | safetydan | b00st4, start here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinInstallWithScreenShots |
| 17:58:12 | webguest87-2 | b00st4: Which OS do you run? |
| 17:58:25 | b00st4 | win |
| 17:58:37 | webguest87-2 | what safetydan said then |
| 17:59:01 | b00st4 | aight, thx ppl |
| 17:59:09 | b00st4 | is there everything explained? |
| 17:59:22 | safetydan | that's the start of it |
| 17:59:37 | safetydan | once you get that set up you'll want http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:04 | safetydan | after that http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches#Applying_A_Patch |
| 18:00:46 | b00st4 | all right |
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| 18:02:36 | Mikachu | i noticed the makefile doesn't have -pipe for the CFLAGS, do you think it might make a difference in cygwin? |
| 18:02:43 | Mikachu | i tried it on linux and it only makes less than half a seconds difference |
| 18:03:24 | Mikachu | that is the Makefile in build/, on the gccopts line |
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| 18:08:54 | webguest87-2 | How can I view all songs with tagcache? |
| 18:09:30 | webguest87-2 | I only get songs starting with a and b |
| 18:11:49 | * | amiconn summons t0mas or Bagder |
| 18:11:50 | Slasheri | webguest87-2: the chunked browsing is not yet working right, but you can increase the maximum files in a directory limit |
| 18:11:53 | Slasheri | that should do it |
| 18:12:01 | * | t0mas pops up |
| 18:12:01 | amiconn | We need working builds! |
| 18:12:35 | * | t0mas sends Bagder an sms... |
| 18:12:40 | t0mas | maybe he's close to some pc |
| 18:13:37 | webguest87-2 | Slasheri: excellent |
| 18:14:29 | webguest87-2 | Slasheri: Having two songs with the same title seems impossible? |
| 18:14:42 | webguest87-2 | only shows one of them |
| 18:14:46 | Slasheri | webguest87-2: at the moment, yes |
| 18:14:53 | webguest87-2 | (and I want to listen to the other one!) |
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| 18:15:24 | Slasheri | hmm, i will fix that too |
| 18:15:31 | b00st4 | how big is cygwin? |
| 18:15:41 | Mikachu | depends on how many packages you install |
| 18:15:43 | t0mas | amiconn: now lets wait :) |
| 18:15:48 | Slasheri | we just need to skip the unique checking when processing the title tag |
| 18:15:50 | b00st4 | all the needed |
| 18:16:10 | b00st4 | like listed here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinInstallWithScreenShots |
| 18:17:53 | Mikachu | all the sizes are listed, you add it up :) i'd guess a couple of hundred megs maybe |
| 18:18:15 | safetydan | 547 MB on my system |
| 18:18:19 | safetydan | yeesh it's big |
| 18:20:59 | amiconn | My cygwin path contains 798MB (excluding /home) |
| 18:21:21 | Mikachu | well the rockbox checkout is ~138MB of that probably |
| 18:21:35 | amiconn | nope |
| 18:21:41 | amiconn | I said excluding /home... |
| 18:21:41 | Mikachu | ah you have that in /home |
| 18:22:05 | amiconn | It's just cygwin packages plus the crosscompilers (in /opt) |
| 18:22:21 | webguest87-2 | eugh, /opt :( |
| 18:22:33 | amiconn | ?? |
| 18:22:43 | Mikachu | you aren't a fan of /opt? |
| 18:22:52 | webguest87-2 | not really, it seems so.. dirty |
| 18:23:06 | Mikachu | i like putting binary packages there |
| 18:23:12 | Mikachu | like openoffice-bin and rar etc |
| 18:23:35 | webguest87-2 | binary packages are dirty, so |
| 18:23:48 | Mikachu | i mksquashfs'ed openoffice to save 150MB |
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| 18:24:36 | Mikachu | actually i save 200MB so it's down to a third |
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| 18:27:51 | MarcoPolo | what is sizeof( char* dummy[100] ) ? |
| 18:27:58 | mirak | 100 |
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| 18:28:11 | mirak | 4 |
| 18:28:17 | Mikachu | you mean (char *)dummy[100]? |
| 18:28:24 | MarcoPolo | char dummy[100]; |
| 18:28:27 | MarcoPolo | sizeof (dummy) |
| 18:28:31 | mirak | 100 |
| 18:28:42 | MarcoPolo | and then char *dummy2; |
| 18:28:48 | MarcoPolo | dummy2 = dummy; |
| 18:28:53 | MarcoPolo | sizeof(dummy2); |
| 18:28:55 | mirak | 4 |
| 18:28:59 | mirak | 100 ! |
| 18:29:26 | mirak | one notation asks the size of the pointer |
| 18:29:43 | mirak | the other the size of the array |
| 18:29:53 | MarcoPolo | so here sizeof(dummy) = sizeof(dummy2) ? |
| 18:30:05 | amiconn | nope |
| 18:30:05 | XavierGr | I wish the new VMware image was out. |
| 18:30:24 | webguest87-2 | what are you missing? |
| 18:30:35 | MarcoPolo | or sizeof(dummy)=100 and sizeof(dummy2) =4 |
| 18:30:56 | Mikachu | why not just try it? |
| 18:31:57 | Mikachu | printf("%i %i\n", sizeof(dummy), sizeof(dummy2)); |
| 18:31:59 | Mikachu | 100 4 |
| 18:32:20 | Mikachu | printf("%i %i\n", sizeof(&dummy), sizeof(dummy2)); |
| 18:32:23 | Mikachu | 4 4 |
| 18:33:20 | MarcoPolo | i did |
| 18:33:33 | MarcoPolo | and sizeof(dummy2) is char for my computer :p |
| 18:33:38 | MarcoPolo | s/char/8 |
| 18:33:46 | Mikachu | heh |
| 18:33:48 | MarcoPolo | ok it's not the same |
| 18:34:01 | Mikachu | i thought char is always a byte (8 bits)? |
| 18:34:08 | Mikachu | (in C) |
| 18:34:10 | safetydan | grr... with or without the newlib trick I can not get a sh1 cross compiler built |
| 18:34:29 | MarcoPolo | Mikachu: maybe because I have an amd64 ... |
| 18:34:31 | MarcoPolo | dunno |
| 18:36:13 | Mikachu | strange |
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| 18:36:27 | Mikachu | what happens if you assign 300 to a char and then try to print it? |
| 18:37:09 | Mikachu | i get 44 |
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| 18:37:37 | MarcoPolo | Mikachu: same here |
| 18:37:41 | MarcoPolo | weird |
| 18:37:44 | Mikachu | indeed |
| 18:37:56 | MarcoPolo | sizeof(char) is 1 |
| 18:38:03 | Mikachu | oh right |
| 18:38:10 | MarcoPolo | oh |
| 18:38:12 | MarcoPolo | right to |
| 18:38:14 | Mikachu | i'm silly, your pointers are 64 bits and mine are 32 bits |
| 18:38:19 | MarcoPolo | it's the pointer on char which is int |
| 18:38:20 | MarcoPolo | yep |
| 18:38:32 | Mikachu | that's cleared up then |
| 18:38:36 | linuxstb | safetydan: I think we need to try and persuade someone (amiconn?) who knows the hwcodec playback system to move the id3.[ch] and dependencies from firmware/ to apps/ |
| 18:38:47 | Mikachu | i'm not 100% pointers are always ints, but usually they are |
| 18:39:05 | MarcoPolo | yes |
| 18:39:06 | amiconn | This can't be done before unifying the playback engines |
| 18:39:49 | MarcoPolo | Mikachu: if I do char dummy[100]; then char* dummy2 = dummy; is &dummy2[0] the same as &dummy[0] ? |
| 18:39:56 | MarcoPolo | (it should be) |
| 18:40:18 | amiconn | yes |
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| 18:40:25 | safetydan | amiconn, really? it doesn't seem too far off being possible at the moment |
| 18:40:26 | linuxstb | amiconn: Have you read my mailing list message here? http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-02/0077.shtml |
| 18:41:19 | amiconn | safetydan: The playback engine needs id3.[ch]. The hwcodec playback engine is in firmware/. Moving id3.[ch] means callbacks from firmware to apps |
| 18:41:36 | amiconn | This is unwanted |
| 18:41:41 | safetydan | which is bad yes I understand |
| 18:42:00 | safetydan | but as linuxstb there's only two things that seem to need changing |
| 18:42:02 | linuxstb | amiconn: Why not move the hwcodec playback engine to apps? |
| 18:42:03 | amiconn | I don't think this is something to be done before 3.0 |
| 18:42:10 | amiconn | linuxstb: It makes no sense |
| 18:42:30 | amiconn | Why make a huge effort and move it, when it is going to be replaced? |
| 18:42:46 | amiconn | And furthermore you can't really move it |
| 18:42:52 | safetydan | actually, we're only a week from freeze aren't we? definitely not the best time for a big change |
| 18:42:52 | amiconn | ...in its current stated |
| 18:42:54 | amiconn | -d |
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| 18:48:44 | linuxstb | amiconn: I disagree that it makes no sense to move the code which will end up being part of the unified playback system from firmware/ to apps/. Slowly unifying the two systems would seem a reasonable approach, and that would be a first step. |
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| 18:49:52 | amiconn | The first step is (imho) getting the swcodec engine stable |
| 18:50:18 | amiconn | ...and get the desired features designed in and working as intended |
| 18:50:28 | amiconn | (e.g. dynamic buffering of metadata |
| 18:50:29 | amiconn | ) |
| 18:51:35 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, do you know currently any problems with the swcodec engine that causes it being unstable? |
| 18:51:56 | amiconn | Well, it has never been 100% stable so far |
| 18:53:47 | preglow | i had a nasty hang a couple of weeks ago |
| 18:53:55 | preglow | but the sporadic nature of the bugs makes it a bit hard to debug |
| 18:54:09 | amiconn | yes |
| 18:54:18 | amiconn | Sporadic hangs here and there |
| 18:56:03 | XavierGr | Question: Is the default rockbox code unifont? |
| 18:56:10 | XavierGr | code = font |
| 18:56:27 | preglow | no |
| 18:56:30 | preglow | not by a long shot |
| 18:56:55 | XavierGr | so making a vkeyboard with this font is impossible. |
| 18:57:11 | Mikachu | you saw the patch in the tarcker for custom keyboard layouts? |
| 18:57:21 | XavierGr | well I heard of it. |
| 18:57:53 | XavierGr | does it solves the misalignment issues on all targets? |
| 18:58:02 | Mikachu | no idea |
| 18:59:49 | safetydan | Slasheri, sims are busted after your last commit |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:27 | safetydan | and player target as well |
| 19:00:39 | XavierGr | I guess that a solution for the vkeyboard is to load a specific font for each target temporary for that screen, though I don't know if this will be a good idea. |
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| 19:01:43 | MarcoPolo | will tagcache work on ipod ? |
| 19:01:58 | Mikachu | it should |
| 19:02:22 | MarcoPolo | coool :) |
| 19:03:49 | Slasheri | safetydan: oh, fixing that :) |
| 19:04:57 | Slasheri | eh.. |
| 19:05:04 | Slasheri | that seems to be a problem elsewhere |
| 19:05:43 | herz42_ | has anyone got tagcache actually got running on ipod? |
| 19:06:00 | safetydan | Slasheri, eh? line 2136 of playback.c refers to tagcache |
| 19:06:05 | Mikachu | i just meant the plan is it should work |
| 19:06:10 | safetydan | which I'm assuming is #ifdef'd out for the sim |
| 19:06:15 | * | amiconn now has the correct stereo width formula that avoids overflows |
| 19:06:32 | herz42_ | I get data abort when the chache file is read on startup |
| 19:06:34 | safetydan | cvs build pages are back up by the way |
| 19:06:43 | b00st4 | ok, i installed cygwin and started the bash, do i just hve to type is these commands ? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 19:07:07 | amiconn | I see RED :( |
| 19:07:10 | safetydan | Slasheri, http://www.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=2006-03-26%2016%3A37%3A21&type=iriver%20H120%20-%20Simulator#prob1 |
| 19:07:19 | preglow | amiconn: the old one wasn't good? |
| 19:07:26 | Slasheri | safetydan: just found that, fixed :) |
| 19:07:35 | safetydan | \o/ |
| 19:07:45 | preglow | amiconn: need to compensate the straight factor? |
| 19:08:00 | amiconn | I redid the whole calculation. |
| 19:08:25 | MarcoPolo | to make tagcache work I have to choose ID3database in file view ? |
| 19:08:33 | amiconn | No added complexity, but ensures that abs(straight) + abs(cross) == 1 |
| 19:08:48 | PhR3aK | any news about audio playback on the x5 |
| 19:08:50 | PhR3aK | ? |
| 19:09:20 | b00st4 | or you can download the complete source package with fonts and all from the daily build page and unpack it: |
| 19:09:21 | b00st4 | $ tar xzf rockbox.tar.gz |
| 19:09:37 | b00st4 | is there the rockbox update or cvs ment? |
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| 19:09:58 | Slasheri | MarcoPolo: yes |
| 19:10:07 | tucoz | safetydan, did you look at some cordic algorithms recently? I am looking for a log function |
| 19:10:27 | preglow | tucoz: you can do log with cordic? |
| 19:10:33 | tucoz | I thought so |
| 19:10:34 | safetydan | tucoz, yeah I was the cordic guy... it should be possible to do log |
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| 19:10:42 | safetydan | preglow, yeah cordic is extremely flexible |
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| 19:11:02 | tucoz | safetydan, do you have a link to some good info on that? |
| 19:11:11 | Slasheri | hmm, it seems that playback engine crashes now more easily with the recent changes.. For example skipping files very fast causes player to crash :/ |
| 19:11:34 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: then it freezes when I go out of the menu |
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| 19:11:48 | MarcoPolo | (and it's freezing now as I did "Force tag cache update") |
| 19:11:48 | Slasheri | MarcoPolo: it shouldn't do that |
| 19:11:54 | preglow | Slasheri: you mean lostlogic's changes or tagcache? |
| 19:11:55 | b00st4 | sry,inet crashed |
| 19:11:59 | Slasheri | hmm, weird. Are you using ipod? |
| 19:12:02 | lostlogic | Slasheri: that's because I rule. |
| 19:12:03 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: yes |
| 19:12:08 | preglow | Slasheri: i got that too, btw |
| 19:12:10 | preglow | Slasheri: the freeze |
| 19:12:12 | Slasheri | preglow: lostlogic's most likely |
| 19:12:12 | b00st4 | <b00st4> or you can download the complete source package with fonts and all from the daily build page and unpack it: |
| 19:12:12 | b00st4 | <b00st4> $ tar xzf rockbox.tar.gz |
| 19:12:12 | b00st4 | <b00st4> is there the rockbox update or cvs ment? |
| 19:12:25 | Slasheri | lostlogic: hehe :) |
| 19:12:52 | herz42_ | Slasheri: I have the same behaviour as MarcoPolo in ipod 5g |
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| 19:13:10 | b00st4 | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml or http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 19:13:16 | Slasheri | herz42_: ah, in fact that might be another alignment issue |
| 19:13:20 | Slasheri | i will fix it shortly |
| 19:13:39 | b00st4 | no1 who can help me, wit that simple quest? |
| 19:13:44 | * | amiconn wonders what happened to his alignment fix for the old tagcache snapshot |
| 19:13:52 | herz42_ | doesn't look exactly like an alignment prolem, but I'll stay tuned :) |
| 19:14:32 | tucoz | b00st4, what do you need help with? |
| 19:14:33 | Slasheri | amiconn: that code has been rewritten completely.. :) |
| 19:14:35 | lostlogic | Slasheri: my current task is rehashing track skipping so that no state changing pcmbuf calls are made on the audio thread, only on the codec thread. This will eliminate the need for mutexes in the pcmbuf and should make track skipping more reliable |
| 19:14:42 | amiconn | I'd like to know whether it works properly on archos, but don't dare to cvs update... |
| 19:14:50 | Mikachu | b00st4: what is your quest? |
| 19:15:09 | Mikachu | and what is the speed of an unladen swallow? |
| 19:15:10 | Slasheri | amiconn: because i needed to redesign the commit function to support the sorting |
| 19:15:22 | amiconn | Does chunked browsing work now? |
| 19:15:31 | amiconn | (from disk, that is) |
| 19:15:46 | Slasheri | amiconn: in theory (engine level) yes, but ui doesn't work very well at the moment... :) |
| 19:15:52 | tucoz | what is chunked browsing btw? |
| 19:15:56 | Skydemon | hiyas all ) - anyone here who uses the 'new' experimantal build from Kosh? just wonder were i can find the setting witch Remote i use :) |
| 19:16:42 | Slasheri | tucoz: ability to retrieve sorted list of tags directly from disk in chunks without the need to sort everything in memory at runtime |
| 19:16:57 | tucoz | Ah, I see. |
| 19:17:28 | safetydan | tucoz, sorry yes I should be able to dig something up, hang on |
| 19:18:05 | Slasheri | herz42_: does it build the cache if you enable dircache and set tagcache to be loaded in ram? |
| 19:19:02 | herz42_ | Slasheri: iI'l try |
| 19:19:47 | Slasheri | herz42_: and check if you have any .tcd files in .rockbox directory |
| 19:19:49 | Slasheri | back soon -> |
| 19:20:06 | herz42_ | i have. do I need to delete manually? |
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| 19:20:07 | b00st4 | tucoz, dont u read qry? |
| 19:20:20 | safetydan | tucoz, this was a pretty good example of the range of cordic functions http://www.voidware.com/cordic.htm |
| 19:20:20 | Slasheri | herz42_: you might try that also |
| 19:20:25 | tucoz | b00st4, no. what are you looking for? |
| 19:20:34 | tucoz | safetydan, nice. Thanks a lot. |
| 19:20:41 | Mikachu | b00st4: it's pretty impolite to query several people about the same thing |
| 19:20:45 | b00st4 | <b00st4> i just installed cygvin an started the bash |
| 19:20:45 | b00st4 | [19:29] <b00st4> now it says or you can download the complete source package with fonts and all from the daily build page and unpack it: |
| 19:20:45 | b00st4 | [19:29] <b00st4> $ tar xzf rockbox.tar.gz |
| 19:20:45 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK b00st4 |
| 19:20:45 | b00st4 | [19:29] <b00st4> within the tutorial |
| 19:20:45 | b00st4 | [19:30] <b00st4> shall i dl the daily build or cvs build |
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| 19:21:09 | safetydan | tucoz, also, if you can dig up a paper called "A survey of CORDIC algorithms for FPGA computers" that covers the theory really well. Doesn't specifically show a log() implementation though. |
| 19:21:12 | b00st4 | nah, i was just wondering, cuz tucoz wasnt responding |
| 19:21:49 | tucoz | b00st4, oh. That depends what you want to do with the build |
| 19:22:12 | b00st4 | any u also wanted to help me, any i dont want to talk bout such noobprobs in aminchat, cuz u guys seem to have more serious problems |
| 19:22:12 | Mikachu | you probably don't want the cvs build right now |
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| 19:22:23 | b00st4 | i want to do a patch |
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| 19:22:29 | b00st4 | aply a patch |
| 19:22:31 | tucoz | b00st4, you can patch a daily |
| 19:22:45 | b00st4 | like album_art_v3.5-MM_20060324.patch |
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| 19:23:09 | b00st4 | what do u mean? |
| 19:23:16 | tucoz | b00st4, I don't know. But, if I were you, I would use cvs to retrieve the source tree |
| 19:23:28 | b00st4 | kk, thx |
| 19:23:35 | herz42_ | Slasheri: I have triggered rebuild. and it's busy so far... |
| 19:24:08 | tucoz | b00st4, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS |
| 19:24:27 | b00st4 | i was readin this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 19:24:47 | tucoz | safetydan, thanks. I'll look for that as well. |
| 19:25:25 | tucoz | b00st4, sure. But, regardless how you retrieve the source, building it is exactly the same |
| 19:26:18 | amiconn | Bah, the playback engine hangs *a lot* now :( |
| 19:26:20 | b00st4 | aight |
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| 19:26:49 | tucoz | and if you check out the source by CVS, you don't have to download the entire source tree every time there is a change. You just write cvs up -dP and only the changes gets downloaded. |
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| 19:28:16 | bam_ | anyone have the source code for the favorites plugin? |
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| 19:28:44 | safetydan | bam_, it's in rockbox CVS |
| 19:28:56 | bam_ | oh, cool |
| 19:29:05 | drspoon | amiconn: i've noticed playback crashing after i ffwd or rew |
| 19:29:09 | bam_ | gonna do some re-writing... |
| 19:29:25 | amiconn | I have voice UI enabled |
| 19:29:51 | amiconn | The first playback after boot is working, but a simple Stop -> Play (to resume) makes it hang. |
| 19:29:56 | amiconn | Reproducable. |
| 19:30:08 | amiconn | H300 |
| 19:30:13 | bam_ | oh, so that bug is still there huh? |
| 19:30:58 | amiconn | (and voice during playback doesn't work) |
| 19:31:01 | bam_ | I reverted to the mar-23rd build because of this.. |
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| 19:32:16 | bam_ | but the favorites and onboard playlist creation rox |
| 19:33:40 | drspoon | is there currently a way of making a menu through the rb struct from plugins? |
| 19:34:23 | Mikachu | pacbox uses them |
| 19:35:36 | drspoon | the pacbox menu is annoying on h300 if you call it with NAVI it automatcally opens the first menu item |
| 19:35:45 | drspoon | ok on ipod tho |
| 19:36:37 | drspoon | i just think it's a little bit silly to re-write a different menu system for every plugin |
| 19:36:54 | drspoon | which is what happens currently |
| 19:37:04 | Mikachu | yeah i think most of the devels agree too |
| 19:38:03 | drspoon | also it would mean colourising and beautifying the ui (not a priority IMHO but some want it) could be easy for plugins |
| 19:38:09 | Slasheri | herz42_: good, at least it does something. When hd stops spinning, reboot the player and check if you see "committing tagcache" message on the screen |
| 19:38:42 | drspoon | you'd just add a few #ifdefs to the menu code, not every plugin |
| 19:38:43 | linuxstb | drspoon: OK, that must be a bug in the way pacbox uses the menu and needs fixing. No-one has mentioned it before. |
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| 19:39:32 | drspoon | it might be because the menu is called with NAVI on press, and the item is selected and activated with the release of it |
| 19:40:07 | Mikachu | a similar problem happens on ipods in the view playlist menu when called from the wps context menu |
| 19:40:18 | herz42_ | Slasheri: on first reboot I get a data abort. On the second one, logf reports header error, tagache faile init... |
| 19:40:19 | Mikachu | but that forces you to reboot so it is a bit worse |
| 19:40:36 | drspoon | Mikachu: yeah |
| 19:40:37 | Slasheri | herz42_: hmm, do you have the most recent cvs version? |
| 19:41:06 | herz42_ | Slasheri: almost. I'll check |
| 19:41:17 | Slasheri | herz42_: you should have at least revision 1.3 of the tagcache.c file |
| 19:42:22 | amiconn | preglow: Fix for stereo width & karaoke mode committed. |
| 19:42:50 | herz42_ | Slasheri: yes, it's the latest one |
| 19:43:04 | Slasheri | herz42_: ah, that's weird then :/ |
| 19:43:14 | Slasheri | anyway, the header error is caused because of the crash |
| 19:43:24 | preglow | amiconn: goodie |
| 19:43:25 | Slasheri | but i have no idea why it still crashes |
| 19:44:06 | herz42_ | Slasheri: it reports some 'file is no aac or alac' or something alike while scanning. that shouldn't be a problem, right? |
| 19:44:24 | Slasheri | that should be ok |
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| 19:45:17 | amiconn | Slasheri: Still some yellows... |
| 19:45:37 | amiconn | Btw, the yellow in the iPod video sim is a 64bit issue. |
| 19:45:54 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah, fixing |
| 19:45:55 | amiconn | You should not cast pointers to int, but rather to long, I told you... |
| 19:46:05 | Slasheri | yes, i will change that :) |
| 19:46:48 | linuxstb | herz42_: Do you have any ".mp4" or ".m4a" files which are not aac or alac? Or that maybe were encoded by Nero, and not itunes? |
| 19:48:20 | herz42_ | linuxstb: Maybe my audio books. I had to do some quirks to see them as audiobooks in retailos |
| 19:48:54 | Mikachu | impressive, someone still has the old devcon2006 page open that references my shot.jpg |
| 19:49:43 | herz42_ | Mikachu: probably a browsre cache issue |
| 19:52:33 | amiconn | t0mas / Bagder: byzantium.homedns.org seems to have no sdl installed. It should not get simulator builds scheduled until the issue is fixed |
| 19:52:58 | t0mas | amiconn: I'll check |
| 19:53:32 | t0mas | removed sdl from the list |
| 19:53:35 | t0mas | Cassandra? |
| 19:53:44 | t0mas | can you install/test your SDL libs? |
| 19:54:00 | amiconn | The build table looks like sh*t :( |
| 19:54:09 | tucoz | no kidding |
| 19:54:12 | t0mas | at least it's building again |
| 19:54:18 | t0mas | after reaching Bagder |
| 19:54:26 | tucoz | a bag of shit to be precise :) |
| 19:56:37 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: it says "updating in background" and doesn't stay in background, but the disk is always on |
| 19:57:22 | Slasheri | MarcoPolo: hmm, doesn't stay in background? :) is the disk still doing something? |
| 19:57:32 | Slasheri | check from debug menu the tagcache info and progress |
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| 20:00:11 | t0mas | amiconn: I'll force a rebuild to check if everything is ok now |
| 20:00:23 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: yes, the disk is always on |
| 20:00:23 | herz42_ | Slasheri: it seems to fail in the line 'idp->id = id' (or maybe one instruction earlier) in tempbuf_unique_insert() |
| 20:00:39 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: I can't, it's frozen, not in background |
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| 20:01:26 | MarcoPolo | it says it's running in background but it isn't. The disk is on (I hear it's noise). And I can't do anything but rebooting |
| 20:01:29 | Slasheri | herz42_: ah, i will check that code again. Are you still sure that you have compiled and installed the latest cvs to your player? =) |
| 20:01:47 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: I got cvs from 5 min ago personally |
| 20:02:07 | Slasheri | MarcoPolo: hmm, then it has probably crashed :/ you need to reset it |
| 20:02:11 | herz42_ | Slasheri: yes, but I'll recompile and retransfre to be 100% sure. |
| 20:02:18 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: yes |
| 20:02:49 | herz42_ | MarcoPolo: Try to start tagging while in wps (playing music). When I opened the file browser, while tagging, mine was freezing too |
| 20:02:53 | b00st4 | hm, is there any chance, to get a patch working with no developing skills? |
| 20:03:16 | t0mas | a very small one :) |
| 20:03:22 | b00st4 | ^^ |
| 20:03:39 | b00st4 | any chance to learn? |
| 20:03:44 | t0mas | ofcourse |
| 20:03:51 | t0mas | what patch are we talking about? |
| 20:04:01 | t0mas | and are you using Windows or Linux? |
| 20:04:16 | b00st4 | album_art_v3.5-MM_20060324.patch for example |
| 20:04:17 | b00st4 | win |
| 20:04:24 | Mikachu | chris05 managed to do it |
| 20:04:31 | t0mas | hm... have you setup the dev enironment? |
| 20:04:36 | b00st4 | or applepause.diff |
| 20:04:45 | b00st4 | no, just cygwin |
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| 20:05:22 | t0mas | devkit cygwin? or standard cygwin? |
| 20:05:34 | MarcoPolo | herz42_: in RAM or on Disk ? |
| 20:05:58 | b00st4 | standart i think |
| 20:06:51 | herz42_ | MarcoPolo: If you mean the tagging method: I think that was set to disk when that happened |
| 20:07:12 | b00st4 | but i included some devel |
| 20:07:15 | MarcoPolo | herz42_: ok. It's still freezing here |
| 20:07:21 | MarcoPolo | herz42_: you have an ipod ? |
| 20:07:36 | herz42_ | MarcoPolo: yes, 5g video |
| 20:07:39 | XavierGr | a=1; for(i=1;i<=a-1;i++) <- will that for run or it will exit immediately? |
| 20:08:35 | herz42_ | this should exit immediately |
| 20:08:39 | Mikachu | it will run once |
| 20:08:44 | herz42_ | hehe |
| 20:08:50 | b00st4 | t0mas can we qry |
| 20:08:52 | Mikachu | 1<=1 is true |
| 20:08:57 | Slasheri | hmm, has 5g S3C2440 CPU? |
| 20:08:59 | herz42_ | andbut check is a-1 |
| 20:09:00 | XavierGr | it will or won't run once? |
| 20:09:08 | Slasheri | linuxstb? |
| 20:09:10 | Mikachu | right |
| 20:09:10 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: no PP5020 |
| 20:09:15 | t0mas | b00st4: well... I would like to help you, but not at this moment... |
| 20:09:19 | Mikachu | so it's a bit silly at least |
| 20:09:19 | Slasheri | ah, then that isn't a problem |
| 20:09:23 | XavierGr | I don't want to run once |
| 20:09:32 | b00st4 | all right |
| 20:09:34 | herz42_ | XavierGr: it won't run once |
| 20:09:35 | Slasheri | ROCKBOX_STRICT_ALIGN should be defined for that cpu also |
| 20:09:42 | safetydan | XavierGr, never run. i <= a - 1 and if a is 1, then i <= 0 is your condition. You initialise i to 1. |
| 20:09:44 | XavierGr | ok that's what I wan't thanks |
| 20:09:50 | b00st4 | thx tho |
| 20:09:56 | XavierGr | ^want |
| 20:10:02 | t0mas | maybe somebody else has time? |
| 20:10:14 | XavierGr | the a is part of another "for" it is not like that always. |
| 20:10:40 | b00st4 | sure, mybe ill fix it till then |
| 20:10:41 | safetydan | XavierGr, if you want a loop to run at least once, you could try a do{}while loop |
| 20:10:51 | linuxstb | Slasheri: ROCKBOX_STRICT_ALIGN should be set for all ARM processors - you can use the CPU_ARM define. |
| 20:11:35 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hmm, that sounds good |
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| 20:12:42 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: yeah |
| 20:13:00 | herz42_ | Slasheri: Do you know why I get this data abort only on every second boot? |
| 20:14:22 | Slasheri | herz42_: yep, it tries to commit the tagcache -> crash. And when booting next time, there is a header error and incorrect files are deleted |
| 20:14:26 | Slasheri | then it happens again.. |
| 20:14:40 | herz42_ | ahh, ok that explains that one |
| 20:15:01 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: where should I add ROCKBOX_STRICT_ALIGN ? |
| 20:15:13 | Slasheri | MarcoPolo: hmm, what CPU you have? |
| 20:15:28 | MarcoPolo | PP5020 |
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| 20:15:43 | Slasheri | then you don't need to add it.. |
| 20:15:46 | Slasheri | it should be o |
| 20:15:47 | Slasheri | ok |
| 20:16:34 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: so, why doesn't it work ? |
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| 20:23:47 | Slasheri | MarcoPolo: well, i don't know.. but it will be fixed on time |
| 20:23:55 | MarcoPolo | ok :) |
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| 20:27:46 | Paprica | any devs here? |
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| 20:30:04 | RabidSnail | hello? |
| 20:30:14 | sharpe | hi? |
| 20:30:36 | RabidSnail | sorry, i'm just not used to joining a channel with no conversations going on |
| 20:30:48 | sharpe | :) |
| 20:31:15 | RabidSnail | does anybody know the state of the port to the gigabeat? |
| 20:31:26 | herz42_ | whoever recently comitted config.h - the CPU_ARM is a define and not a value for CONDIF_CPU |
| 20:31:53 | Slasheri | herz42_: ah, of course. Now i found the problem :) |
| 20:31:58 | herz42_ | :) |
| 20:32:09 | Mikachu | nice, 4228 |
| 20:32:10 | Slasheri | the alignment fix was missing from unique_insert |
| 20:32:23 | tucoz | RabidSnail, only one poor developer on the gigabeat at them moment. |
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| 20:32:39 | RabidSnail | how far has he/she gotten? |
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| 20:33:11 | tucoz | RabidSnail, some code in cvs. But, nothing runs on the gigabeat. |
| 20:33:27 | amiconn | Slasheri: Almost a highscore... |
| 20:33:30 | tucoz | RabidSnail, isn't there a gigabeat page with info on that? |
| 20:33:34 | tucoz | wiki I mean |
| 20:33:38 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 20:33:43 | RabidSnail | yeah, but it's pretty sparse |
| 20:33:59 | RabidSnail | i figured there was more stuff than what was on there |
| 20:34:19 | tucoz | RabidSnail, if you see markun around here some time, talk to him |
| 20:34:24 | RabidSnail | k |
| 20:34:26 | RabidSnail | thanks |
| 20:34:35 | tucoz | no problem |
| 20:34:36 | Cassandra | Bah. I have the slowest build machine. |
| 20:34:53 | Mikachu | how come there's an ipod 3g built zip but not 4g and nano? not that it affects me |
| 20:34:58 | Slasheri | amiconn: uh :/ |
| 20:34:59 | tucoz | maybe your ccache isn't mature enough? |
| 20:35:25 | Mikachu | or is that only because they didn't build? |
| 20:35:48 | Cassandra | tucoz: That's certainly true. |
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| 20:36:43 | Slasheri | herz42_: please try now; a fix has been committed :)ä |
| 20:36:47 | tempel | ahem, hello. it was suggested i let you know that i made ipodloader work with MacPods. i.e. it can now read HFS files |
| 20:37:00 | Paprica | someone know if i can commit this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3036 ? |
| 20:37:10 | tempel | slowcoder has the code and will hopefully soon update the svn respository |
| 20:37:12 | Cassandra | I wish it told me which build was mine. |
| 20:37:28 | t0mas | Cassandra: you mean a list for your server? |
| 20:37:32 | tempel | will leave now again. you can contact me over at #ipodlinux-dev |
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| 20:37:57 | t0mas | smile to Bagder and wait a few minutes... and he might want to get his perl wizardness to do that :) |
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| 20:39:48 | herz42_ | Slasheri: Will I have to rebuild the cache file, or should the ol done work? |
| 20:40:17 | amiconn | Slasheri: CPU_ARM is a flag, not a CONFIG_CPU value |
| 20:40:30 | herz42_ | fixed already :) |
| 20:40:43 | safetydan | Paprica, I see no reason why you can't. So long as it doesn't break anything else of course :) |
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| 20:41:17 | Paprica | it doesn't, i just want to know if i can |
| 20:41:23 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: should it be solved for me too ? |
| 20:41:33 | Slasheri | herz42_: old one sohuld work |
| 20:41:38 | Cassandra | Hmmm. Looks a bit random. Certainly I've been faster on the other runs. |
| 20:41:39 | herz42_ | Slasheri: ok |
| 20:41:40 | tucoz | And maybe someone want to commit the new bitmaps for chess? |
| 20:41:42 | Slasheri | MarcoPolo: probably |
| 20:41:45 | MarcoPolo | :) |
| 20:41:59 | Slasheri | amiconn: yes, i already fixed that :) |
| 20:42:10 | preglow | i like the fact that aac.c doesn't set the sample rate...... |
| 20:42:45 | preglow | yes it does |
| 20:42:48 | preglow | hrmp |
| 20:43:06 | amiconn | preglow: Speaking about sample rates, any chance to see a less crappy resampler soonish? |
| 20:44:05 | preglow | amiconn: not as in during the next week, no |
| 20:44:18 | preglow | a not so crappy resampler requires a bit of work |
| 20:45:02 | herz42_ | Slasheri: now it is 'Committing tagcache'. Might take a while. But things have improved... |
| 20:45:21 | herz42_ | Slasheri: I have to leave now (few hrs), but I'll be back ;) |
| 20:45:31 | Slasheri | herz42_: great :) |
| 20:45:37 | Slasheri | hope it works now |
| 20:45:55 | preglow | amiconn: the current one has bugs, though, i'll probably try fixing them |
| 20:46:09 | amiconn | Slasheri: Why not just align the cache entries on all targets? |
| 20:46:24 | MarcoPolo | Slasheri: it is saying "updating in background" but it seems frozen |
| 20:46:29 | Slasheri | amiconn: it increases wasted space when loading to ram.. and little cpu power too |
| 20:46:34 | amiconn | While coldfire doesn't require it, misalignment costs performance |
| 20:47:17 | Slasheri | in that case performance shouldn't really be an issue |
| 20:47:34 | Slasheri | hmm |
| 20:48:21 | Slasheri | probably it could be good idea to just align on all targets, because that alignment shouldn't increase the size when loading to ram |
| 20:48:30 | Slasheri | so it only affects the temporary buffer size |
| 20:48:41 | herz42_ | Slasheri: just wanted to note that it not data aborts in load_tagcache (probably after commiting?) :( |
| 20:48:52 | herz42_ | s/not/now/ :( |
| 20:49:01 | Slasheri | oh.. |
| 20:49:07 | Slasheri | i will look that tomorrow |
| 20:49:38 | herz42_ | I'll also have a look later... |
| 20:49:49 | Slasheri | :) |
| 20:50:02 | Slasheri | try to use the cache directly from disk without loading to ram |
| 20:50:08 | Slasheri | does it still crash? |
| 20:50:39 | herz42_ | I have the problem that it crashes on each boot now... |
| 20:51:01 | Slasheri | oh.. then just remove all .tcd files |
| 20:51:23 | Slasheri | and disable to "load to ram" option |
| 20:52:07 | herz42_ | ok, I managed to change it befor the crash now. So then it doesn't crash. But I didn't browse tags yet |
| 20:52:17 | herz42_ | have to leave. cu later |
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| 20:53:54 | elinenbe | Slasheri: are you going to put up a wiki about tagcache? I'm very interested in checking this out! |
| 20:55:00 | Slasheri | elinenbe: hmm, maybe when i have enough time :) |
| 20:55:10 | Slasheri | but now i need to go too. cu tomorrow |
| 20:55:17 | tucoz | cu |
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| 20:55:52 | tucoz | elinenbe, wiki for development or for use? |
| 20:56:09 | IcyStorM | Which one is the Rockbox config file? |
| 20:56:35 | Mikachu | IcyStorM: what do you mean? |
| 20:56:51 | IcyStorM | The file where all settings is saved |
| 20:57:07 | Mikachu | you can go to manage settings and write a .cfg file there |
| 20:57:10 | IcyStorM | WPS settings, music settings, playback settings, backlight settings..... |
| 20:57:10 | IcyStorM | and so on |
| 20:58:01 | tucoz | IcyStorM, /.rockbox/somefile.cfg |
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| 21:00:31 | amiconn | The active config is not stored in a file, but in a special sector outside the partition |
| 21:03:32 | preglow | amiconn: btw, why did you go for that solutiojn in the first place? |
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| 21:04:05 | amiconn | That's an oold leftover from before my time, and was explained numerous tims |
| 21:04:20 | amiconn | Back then the filesystem had no write support |
| 21:04:20 | preglow | remember it? |
| 21:04:23 | preglow | ahh, right |
| 21:04:33 | preglow | so there's pretty much no reason to keep it now? |
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| 21:04:50 | amiconn | Well, there is a reason to keep *some* settings binary |
| 21:05:05 | amiconn | Other than that, we should switch to .cfg files |
| 21:05:09 | preglow | which and why? |
| 21:05:25 | Mikachu | it seems to take a lot longer to load a .cfg than the binary config |
| 21:05:33 | preglow | 'course it does |
| 21:05:35 | amiconn | Resume index, runtime stats |
| 21:05:45 | preglow | amiconn: sure |
| 21:05:57 | Mikachu | so maybe it would be silly to switch, unless you mean switching to a binary file on the filesystem |
| 21:05:58 | amiconn | However, switching isn't trivial |
| 21:05:58 | preglow | amiconn: but the size of those are so small we can even start using the iriver eeprom |
| 21:06:27 | amiconn | We need a hook to register a function that is called on spinup |
| 21:06:51 | amiconn | Currently there is the delayed sector feature at the ata driver level |
| 21:07:07 | amiconn | That obviously won't work for files |
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| 21:14:50 | b00st4 | hi, can anyone tell me, how to apply a patch/diff on my ipod 5g? |
| 21:15:09 | b00st4 | i already installed cygwin... |
| 21:15:17 | XavierGr | did you read the wiki? |
| 21:15:38 | b00st4 | jap, but i dont have any developingskillz yet... |
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| 21:15:46 | b00st4 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 21:15:53 | b00st4 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS#Producing_a_diff_of_your_changes |
| 21:15:54 | XavierGr | you don't need development skills. |
| 21:15:58 | b00st4 | read this and this |
| 21:16:06 | XavierGr | what you can't understand? |
| 21:16:27 | b00st4 | but dont know where to commit the comands and how i can use the progrmas |
| 21:16:41 | b00st4 | Applying a 'patch' (output from diff -u) is done with the 'patch' tool: |
| 21:16:42 | b00st4 | cd to/source/root |
| 21:16:42 | b00st4 | patch < patchfile |
| 21:16:47 | b00st4 | for example |
| 21:16:59 | b00st4 | cmd? cygwin? |
| 21:17:00 | XavierGr | have you downloaded the source? |
| 21:17:04 | XavierGr | cygwin |
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| 21:17:23 | b00st4 | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox login |
| 21:17:24 | b00st4 | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox |
| 21:17:24 | XavierGr | can you compile? |
| 21:17:27 | b00st4 | like this? |
| 21:17:27 | XavierGr | ok |
| 21:17:30 | XavierGr | yes |
| 21:17:35 | b00st4 | did that |
| 21:17:38 | XavierGr | can you compile? |
| 21:17:57 | b00st4 | compile what? |
| 21:18:01 | XavierGr | the source |
| 21:18:10 | XavierGr | I mean do you know how? |
| 21:18:11 | b00st4 | im afraid not |
| 21:18:33 | XavierGr | ok, do you have the rockbox directory you just downloaded? |
| 21:18:53 | b00st4 | i have a directory |
| 21:19:04 | XavierGr | it must be called rockbox, right? |
| 21:19:09 | b00st4 | .rockbox |
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| 21:19:26 | XavierGr | no, no, not .rockbox. rockbox |
| 21:19:36 | XavierGr | (with out the dot) |
| 21:19:41 | b00st4 | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/ |
| 21:19:42 | b00st4 | this |
| 21:19:54 | XavierGr | yes |
| 21:20:16 | XavierGr | open cygwin and type cd "your path to the rockbox directory" |
| 21:20:26 | amiconn | can be called as you like. It depends on how it is checked out |
| 21:21:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:21:11 | * | amiconn creates the base dir beforehand, and checks out individual dirs instead of predefined modules |
| 21:21:57 | b00st4 | ok, found the dir |
| 21:22:11 | XavierGr | ok, are you inside that dir? |
| 21:22:29 | XavierGr | then mkdir "name of folder" <- choose whatever you want |
| 21:22:35 | b00st4 | jap, im in |
| 21:22:39 | XavierGr | then cd "the folder you created" |
| 21:22:49 | XavierGr | then, ../tools/configure |
| 21:23:00 | XavierGr | answer the questions from the script |
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| 21:23:31 | b00st4 | hm, build? |
| 21:23:51 | b00st4 | what shall i take |
| 21:24:04 | b00st4 | normal, devel, bootloader or manual |
| 21:24:14 | b00st4 | *simulator |
| 21:24:23 | XavierGr | normal if you want a firmware for your target |
| 21:24:51 | XavierGr | then type make |
| 21:24:54 | b00st4 | i want to apply a patch |
| 21:24:59 | XavierGr | it will start compiling |
| 21:25:12 | b00st4 | jap |
| 21:25:28 | b00st4 | autoconf.h and makefile |
| 21:25:29 | XavierGr | then you can apply the patch (okay you can do that before) and recompile |
| 21:25:41 | XavierGr | does it compile? |
| 21:25:50 | b00st4 | so i load the patch to the same dir? |
| 21:26:06 | b00st4 | it says created makefile |
| 21:26:15 | b00st4 | within cygwin |
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| 21:26:20 | XavierGr | whatever dir you want. You must type a command that will contain the path to the patch |
| 21:26:25 | XavierGr | type make |
| 21:26:41 | b00st4 | all right |
| 21:26:55 | b00st4 | no i got a folder named firmware |
| 21:26:58 | XavierGr | what target do you have? |
| 21:27:03 | b00st4 | ipod 5g |
| 21:27:08 | b00st4 | 60 |
| 21:27:19 | XavierGr | ah current cvs is broken for the 5g. |
| 21:27:40 | XavierGr | ah no |
| 21:27:45 | XavierGr | it is broken gor the 4g |
| 21:28:03 | b00st4 | puh :D |
| 21:28:09 | XavierGr | did you typed make |
| 21:28:13 | b00st4 | yap |
| 21:28:16 | XavierGr | and? |
| 21:28:16 | b00st4 | its still writing |
| 21:28:19 | XavierGr | ok |
| 21:28:27 | b00st4 | libfaad currently |
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| 21:28:44 | XavierGr | wiat until it finishes and tell me if you got an error at the end. |
| 21:29:24 | b00st4 | all right |
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| 21:29:50 | XavierGr | ok now you have the firmware compiled. |
| 21:30:02 | XavierGr | type make zip and a zip file will be created with the firmware. |
| 21:30:19 | XavierGr | then you can extract the zip file into your player. |
| 21:30:22 | XavierGr | now how to patch: |
| 21:30:23 | b00st4 | its still writing, how long will it take |
| 21:30:31 | b00st4 | ah, ready |
| 21:30:56 | XavierGr | now take the patch you want and copy paste it inside the rockbox directory |
| 21:31:12 | b00st4 | k |
| 21:31:34 | XavierGr | type cd .. |
| 21:31:53 | XavierGr | are you inside the rockbox directory in cygwin? |
| 21:31:59 | b00st4 | jap |
| 21:32:04 | XavierGr | ok then type: |
| 21:32:22 | preglow | is the last ipod red just some build system glitch, or? |
| 21:32:30 | XavierGr | patch −−binary -p0 < "your patch name" |
| 21:32:47 | XavierGr | what you got? |
| 21:33:11 | b00st4 | it worked |
| 21:33:20 | XavierGr | what did it typed? |
| 21:33:28 | XavierGr | did you had a HUNK failure? |
| 21:33:33 | BHSPitLappy | preglow: (unrelated) did you hear someone got ipodloader2 booting from hfs |
| 21:33:41 | b00st4 | patching file apps/metadata |
| 21:33:48 | b00st4 | no 2 times succeded hunk |
| 21:33:54 | XavierGr | nothing more? Ok good |
| 21:33:57 | XavierGr | ok |
| 21:34:05 | XavierGr | now do what we said previously |
| 21:34:07 | b00st4 | patching file bal bal bla a few times |
| 21:34:25 | XavierGr | compile again and make zip in the end |
| 21:34:27 | b00st4 | unzip on player? |
| 21:34:36 | preglow | BHSPitLappy: yeah, i've talked to them |
| 21:34:38 | XavierGr | extract the zip file and load the contents inside you player. |
| 21:34:39 | preglow | BHSPitLappy: doesn't help us much |
| 21:34:41 | XavierGr | then you are ready |
| 21:34:43 | BHSPitLappy | preglow: I know |
| 21:34:49 | BHSPitLappy | preglow: but it's an interesting prospect |
| 21:34:58 | b00st4 | and like this i do it every time, i apply a patch? |
| 21:34:59 | BHSPitLappy | for the mac purists, anyway.. |
| 21:35:00 | preglow | yeah, but we pretty much need write support |
| 21:35:20 | XavierGr | b00st4: Yes, if you are fortunate enough and the patch is good. |
| 21:35:27 | b00st4 | ^^ |
| 21:35:28 | b00st4 | aight |
| 21:35:36 | XavierGr | (and you don't get failed hunks on the patching process) |
| 21:35:49 | b00st4 | how about .diffs its similair? |
| 21:35:53 | XavierGr | yes |
| 21:36:03 | b00st4 | or do i have to copy their contet to somewhere |
| 21:36:21 | b00st4 | ok, cuz i can open them with editor |
| 21:36:31 | amiconn | .diff and .patch are actually the same format |
| 21:36:53 | XavierGr | now if the source change you can type cvs update in the rockbox directory and have the latest cvs changes. Then re-compile |
| 21:38:11 | b00st4 | and the patches are still applied? |
| 21:38:24 | XavierGr | if you had it applied yes |
| 21:38:28 | b00st4 | ok |
| 21:38:38 | b00st4 | so i can update constantly |
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| 21:39:00 | XavierGr | yes, but if a change in source mess up with the patch you will get Conflicts |
| 21:39:14 | telliott | Anyone still using an Archos V1 recorder? |
| 21:39:19 | XavierGr | and that will introduce errors when you compile |
| 21:39:59 | amiconn | telliott: Sure, why? |
| 21:40:30 | telliott | I'm curious what the largest hard drive it will access. |
| 21:40:43 | b00st4 | hm, i tried to do with a diff, but it failed |
| 21:41:01 | b00st4 | failed at 1796 |
| 21:41:11 | XavierGr | well the the patch is old. |
| 21:41:16 | XavierGr | ^then |
| 21:41:38 | XavierGr | you can try to fix it yourslef if you know a little C. |
| 21:41:42 | b00st4 | i just copied the text of the dif into an .txt file and saved it to .diff |
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| 21:42:10 | b00st4 | nothing im afraid....but maybe ill learn, it really interessts me |
| 21:42:28 | b00st4 | Friday, 24 March 2006, 08:29PM |
| 21:42:34 | telliott | amiconn: What size hd do you have? |
| 21:42:37 | XavierGr | remember that now you broke your source |
| 21:42:37 | b00st4 | hm, can that be old? |
| 21:42:49 | XavierGr | cvs changes rapidly. |
| 21:42:55 | b00st4 | when it failed? |
| 21:42:59 | XavierGr | yes |
| 21:43:09 | b00st4 | so i gotta do everything new? |
| 21:43:11 | XavierGr | because it applied some changes but couldn't apply all of it. |
| 21:43:16 | amiconn | telliott: Max. supported HD size (in all rockboxed DAPs): 128GB (136GB in HD manufacturer terms) |
| 21:43:20 | amiconn | I have 80GB |
| 21:43:22 | XavierGr | I think yes |
| 21:43:55 | XavierGr | or try the same patch with -R |
| 21:44:09 | XavierGr | but I am not sure if this works for a failed patch |
| 21:44:27 | telliott | Cool. I may look for a 120GB drive. Any idea what price I should pay? |
| 21:44:39 | b00st4 | instead of -p0? |
| 21:44:42 | telliott | I'll look for 4200rpm |
| 21:44:43 | b00st4 | or at the end |
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| 21:45:08 | BHSPitLappy | telliott: 3.5"? |
| 21:45:14 | BHSPitLappy | IDE? |
| 21:45:24 | XavierGr | b00st4: before the filename |
| 21:45:26 | telliott | 2.5 |
| 21:45:34 | XavierGr | patch -p0 −−binary -R "filename |
| 21:45:35 | telliott | for Archos V1 recorder |
| 21:45:57 | XavierGr | patch -p0 −−binary -R < "filename" |
| 21:46:57 | b00st4 | nah, doesnt work |
| 21:47:06 | telliott | Would it be a huge waste to format a 120 gig drive fat32? |
| 21:47:07 | b00st4 | option requires an argument |
| 21:50:44 | b00st4 | ok, ill compile again, any chance, to make a backup, bevore applying a patch? |
| 21:50:50 | Paprica | amiconn? is this leap year calculation is ok? |
| 21:50:51 | Paprica | if ((year % 100 == 0 && year % 400 == 0) || |
| 21:50:51 | Paprica | (year % 100 != 0 && year % 4 == 0)) |
| 21:50:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Paprica |
| 21:50:51 | Paprica | return true; |
| 21:51:02 | Mikachu | b00st4: −−dry-run will show you if the patch will apply without doing anything |
| 21:51:31 | XavierGr | Mikachu: That's nice!! I wasn't aware of that... thanks |
| 21:51:34 | b00st4 | even if it failed? |
| 21:51:39 | Mikachu | reading man pages is always fun |
| 21:51:45 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 21:51:48 | Mikachu | b00st4: it will look like it failed, but in reality it didn't do anything |
| 21:51:55 | amiconn | Paprica: Yes, just a bit more complicated than necessary |
| 21:51:58 | Mikachu | b00st4: just be sure to run it again without −−dry-run if it did apply |
| 21:52:11 | Mikachu | i usually forget to do that and wonder why nothing is different :P |
| 21:52:21 | Paprica | amiconn, do you have a different way? |
| 21:52:39 | amiconn | if ((year % 400 == 0) || (year % 100 != 0 && year % 4 == 0)) |
| 21:52:42 | amiconn | return true; |
| 21:52:49 | Paprica | huh ok =] |
| 21:53:00 | Mikachu | yeah if it is divisible by 400 it will be divisible by 100 too |
| 21:53:05 | Mikachu | since 100|400 |
| 21:53:10 | amiconn | The first year % 100 == 0 is superfluous because year % 400 == 0 implies it |
| 21:53:47 | Paprica | right thanks |
| 21:53:47 | Mikachu | != 0 is also superfluous, but maybe less confusing to have it in |
| 21:53:54 | sharpe | but with years, is they're divisible by 100 they're not leap years... if i remember... |
| 21:54:08 | Mikachu | sharpe: unless they're divisible by 400 too |
| 21:54:45 | obo | any devs bored enough to look at a couple of ipod patches? |
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| 21:54:54 | sharpe | aye mikachu... |
| 21:55:26 | | Part telliott |
| 21:55:31 | sharpe | heh, i'm working on joining videos... |
| 21:57:10 | b00st4 | [22:06] <Mikachu> b00st4: just be sure to run it again without −−dry-run if it did apply |
| 21:57:18 | b00st4 | what do u mean |
| 21:58:36 | Mikachu | b00st4: if you run with −−dry-run, it will not touch your files, it will only let you know if it works or not |
| 21:58:47 | Mikachu | if it does work you have to run it without −−dry-run to actually apply the patch |
| 21:58:48 | amiconn | Paprica: rockcalendar doesn't build for nano... |
| 21:58:56 | Mikachu | and if it doesn't work, you have to do something creative |
| 21:58:58 | Paprica | i know |
| 21:59:04 | b00st4 | ^^ |
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| 22:00 |
| 22:00:05 | b00st4 | so first i type patch −−binary -p0 < "your patch name" −−dry-run |
| 22:00:09 | Mikachu | Paprica: i noticed an annoying thing in tetrox (and fixed it), after you press down to drop a tile to the bottom, you can still accidentally move it left and right before the next tile is shown |
| 22:00:16 | b00st4 | and it will tell em if it will work |
| 22:00:32 | Mikachu | Paprica: add a move_down(); after the while (canMoveTo) move_block(...); thing |
| 22:00:37 | ender` | is tetrox tetris? |
| 22:00:42 | Mikachu | yes |
| 22:00:43 | ender` | then, that's normal |
| 22:00:44 | sharpe | yes |
| 22:00:48 | Paprica | Mikachu, do you have a patch? |
| 22:01:11 | Mikachu | ender`: it's basically impossible to do on purpose.. |
| 22:01:14 | ender` | most tetris clones let you drop the block, and then move it before the next one is shown |
| 22:01:20 | Mikachu | but i do it all the time on accident |
| 22:01:49 | Mikachu | ender`: there is a button for moving down faster without dropping too... |
| 22:03:12 | ender` | iirc, the original tetris didn't let you do it though (but it's been years since i last ran that one) |
| 22:03:27 | b00st4 | [22:14] <b00st4> so first i type patch −−binary -p0 < "your patch name" −−dry-run @mikachu |
| 22:03:44 | Mikachu | no, you want to give −−dry-run as an argument to patch |
| 22:03:48 | b00st4 | or −−dry-run -p0 < xxx |
| 22:03:57 | b00st4 | ok |
| 22:04:20 | b00st4 | ill try that |
| 22:04:30 | b00st4 | thx |
| 22:04:55 | Mikachu | Paprica: http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-tetrox_drop.patch |
| 22:05:11 | Mikachu | heh, lots of rockbox patches there now.. |
| 22:05:58 | b00st4 | u guys all studied programming? |
| 22:06:03 | Mikachu | no |
| 22:06:16 | b00st4 | how did u learn? |
| 22:06:29 | Mikachu | i had complete knowledge of the world when i was born |
| 22:06:36 | b00st4 | ^^ |
| 22:06:50 | Mikachu | just hacking around here and there |
| 22:06:59 | Mikachu | sooner or later you'll stop making the same mistakes |
| 22:07:21 | Mikachu | modifying readable code is a lot easier than writing new code |
| 22:07:34 | sharpe | making up stuff is easier too. |
| 22:08:12 | ender` | i just tried tetrox, the drop & move seems useful to me (i usually drop the block, then move it under something, since that's faster than waiting for it to drop down by itself) |
| 22:08:23 | ender` | btw, the blocks are hard to see on H120 |
| 22:08:30 | sharpe | if i remember, that's what the original tetris did... |
| 22:08:51 | Mikachu | well, tetrox only waits one frame, it seems like it should be a bit longer if it's to be a feature |
| 22:08:57 | ender` | remind me tomorrow, and i'll look for it (i know i have it somewhere) |
| 22:09:11 | Mikachu | do you want the nes one? |
| 22:09:12 | ender` | 1 frame is more than enough if you're used to it |
| 22:09:20 | sharpe | i think i remember the gameboy version doing it... |
| 22:09:32 | sharpe | i don't think i had the nes version... hmm... |
| 22:09:42 | b00st4 | aight, it worked, thx mikachu |
| 22:10:05 | ender` | i've got the original tetris for dos somewhere |
| 22:10:29 | sharpe | heheh, we all have some version of tetris somewhere |
| 22:10:59 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:10:59 | * | ender` kept the original tetris from 286 :) |
| 22:11:11 | XavierGr | I still have the original on my Gameboy! :) |
| 22:11:19 | Mikachu | i have the nes version on my gba |
| 22:11:21 | sharpe | heh... |
| 22:11:34 | sharpe | it's just not the same mikachu! |
| 22:13:15 | Mikachu | my first consoles were mega drive and snes, i missed the 8bit era |
| 22:13:26 | Mikachu | that's genesis for you americans |
| 22:13:27 | ender` | btw, i'd prefer to have instant drop for tetrox on the joystick button than a/b |
| 22:13:27 | sharpe | my first one was the nes... |
| 22:13:59 | XavierGr | Mikachu i had mega drive too :D |
| 22:14:05 | ender` | my first (and only) console was PS2 |
| 22:14:14 | Mikachu | XavierGr: hooray, sonic fan? :) |
| 22:14:14 | XavierGr | I remember playing Sonic like crazy! |
| 22:14:18 | Mikachu | hehe |
| 22:14:35 | b00st4 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4857 |
| 22:14:36 | * | ender` did play sonic a lot at his friend (and bought the PC version when it came out) |
| 22:14:38 | Mikachu | i basically knew all the levels by heart, i probably still do for sonic 1 |
| 22:14:40 | b00st4 | hm, cant apply this |
| 22:14:42 | XavierGr | My cousin had Snes, and I was a Zelda fun too. |
| 22:14:50 | Mikachu | maybe a fan |
| 22:14:57 | XavierGr | Mikachu: yeah |
| 22:15:06 | Mikachu | b00st4: you want one from the comments |
| 22:15:12 | b00st4 | it ells me, perhaps u was using the wrong -p or −−s strng option |
| 22:15:32 | b00st4 | menu.patch |
| 22:15:40 | Mikachu | i'm guessing the one in the middle |
| 22:15:43 | b00st4 | is the latest |
| 22:15:47 | Mikachu | if you want you can read the comments describing them |
| 22:15:54 | b00st4 | it goes on: |
| 22:16:04 | Mikachu | you don't have to tell me what it says though |
| 22:16:09 | b00st4 | the text leading up to this was |
| 22:16:20 | Bger | guys, nite |
| 22:16:20 | b00st4 | −−- menu.c |
| 22:16:23 | b00st4 | +++ menu.c |
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| 22:16:33 | Mikachu | oh, it's already 22:16, damn summer time |
| 22:16:39 | b00st4 | ^^ |
| 22:16:46 | Mikachu | b00st4: you want to cd to the right dir first then |
| 22:17:11 | b00st4 | and what is the right dir? |
| 22:17:24 | b00st4 | i mean, what dir |
| 22:17:36 | b00st4 | im in the dir of the patch |
| 22:17:38 | Mikachu | i'd guess one that has a menu.c in it |
| 22:17:51 | Mikachu | maybe apps/plugin/rockboy if it's a patch for rockboy |
| 22:20:15 | b00st4 | dont work...not so important |
| 22:23:25 | amiconn | bbl |
| 22:23:27 | | Part amiconn |
| 22:23:53 | b00st4 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4728 |
| 22:24:25 | b00st4 | the patches there are in .bz2, where do i have to put this files? |
| 22:24:28 | b00st4 | extract |
| 22:24:45 | Mikachu | they aren't patches |
| 22:24:59 | b00st4 | ok, so just to /plugins? |
| 22:25:08 | Mikachu | yes |
| 22:25:13 | Mikachu | you also have to add the file to SOURCES |
| 22:26:29 | b00st4 | where is this folder? |
| 22:26:46 | Mikachu | it's a file in plugins/ |
| 22:27:25 | b00st4 | how can i ad the value? |
| 22:27:32 | b00st4 | open with editor and then? |
| 22:28:14 | Mikachu | it should hopefully be obvious when you look in the file |
| 22:28:41 | b00st4 | in sources? |
| 22:29:10 | Mikachu | ... yes |
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| 22:31:07 | b00st4 | there are just many filenames written, but where exactly do i have to fill in the new one |
| 22:31:14 | b00st4 | doesnt mind? |
| 22:35:02 | b00st4 | can anyone help me how to install a new plugin? |
| 22:35:18 | Mikachu | doesn't matter where |
| 22:35:25 | Mikachu | as long as you don't put it between an #ifdef and #endif |
| 22:35:57 | b00st4 | k, and how to seperate from other filenames |
| 22:36:30 | b00st4 | ? |
| 22:36:32 | Mikachu | just put it on a line on its own |
| 22:36:45 | b00st4 | aight |
| 22:37:08 | b00st4 | its important where of this lines /* plugins common to all models * |
| 22:37:20 | b00st4 | or /* These need adjusting for the Mini's and iRiver if'p screen */ |
| 22:37:20 | Mikachu | if you put it there it should work yeah |
| 22:37:29 | Mikachu | those are just comments... |
| 22:37:29 | b00st4 | all right, thx m8 |
| 22:37:40 | b00st4 | ic |
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| 22:40:53 | Mikachu | Paprica: http://www.pressthebuttons.com/2005/04/emtetrisem_hate.html |
| 22:41:41 | Paprica | ? |
| 22:41:46 | Mikachu | just funny |
| 22:42:18 | Paprica | :] |
| 22:43:22 | Paprica | Mikachu, what your tetrox patch does? |
| 22:43:54 | Mikachu | it makes it so that when you press drop, you can't move that piece after it reaches the bottom |
| 22:44:09 | Mikachu | you can now during the frame after the drop, and i think it's not on purpose |
| 22:44:36 | Paprica | ok i'll try it later =] |
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| 22:45:55 | midkay | preglow? |
| 22:46:17 | preglow | yes? |
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| 22:47:35 | midkay | did you ever manage to get tagcache working on your ipod? i just figured out a trick; it's working on mine now, if you didn't know.. |
| 22:48:13 | preglow | no, i didn't |
| 22:48:15 | tucoz | preglow, in rockbox, what is a sensible number of decimal points when generating a atan table? |
| 22:48:17 | preglow | what is the trick? |
| 22:48:29 | preglow | tucoz: depends on what you're trying to do |
| 22:48:57 | tucoz | preglow, I am looking at the calculator plugin. To implement the missing functions |
| 22:49:20 | Mikachu | i'd say that one should be as accurate as possible |
| 22:49:32 | tucoz | Mikachu, ok. |
| 22:49:34 | midkay | preglow, i told tagcache to load to RAM and forced an update to make sure it was up-to-date.. then i rebooted rockbox to make sure those settings were in effect. i went back and set "show files" to id3 database, accepted that setting, and shut down rockbox from the main menu by holding play. when you start up again, you're there. |
| 22:50:03 | midkay | it seems like the problem is switching between files and id3 database "realtime".. |
| 22:50:09 | midkay | rebooting with the new setting works though. |
| 22:50:09 | preglow | tucoz: ahh, yeah, especially for the calculator where speed isn't a concern |
| 22:50:15 | preglow | midkay: weird... |
| 22:50:21 | tucoz | preglow, ok. thanks |
| 22:50:32 | midkay | quite cool to see it work, though. :) |
| 22:50:49 | tucoz | My h120 also freezes horribly when I switch file-view |
| 22:51:10 | tucoz | it even rebooted to iriver fw once |
| 22:51:11 | midkay | tucoz, try switching file-view and then shutting down from the menu, and restarting. probably works on the irivers too. |
| 22:51:31 | midkay | don't freeze it by leaving the menu system. |
| 22:51:40 | tucoz | midkay, yes that works. But, not if I go to the id3-view before I reboot :) |
| 22:51:50 | midkay | tucoz, right. that |
| 22:51:55 | midkay | that's the apparent bug.. :) |
| 22:52:14 | b00st4 | hm, what went wrong, when i got errors while ../tools/configure ? |
| 22:52:14 | tucoz | Just that I get the same on an iriver, as you get on the ipods |
| 22:52:23 | tucoz | b00st4, what errors? |
| 22:52:54 | b00st4 | with plugins |
| 22:53:30 | tucoz | b00st4, http://pastebin.com/ <- paste your errors there and post the link |
| 22:53:46 | midkay | tucoz, it's probably a global problem then.. shouldn't be too hard to figure out, if at the least you just induce a reboot after changing the setting. |
| 22:53:56 | b00st4 | php? |
| 22:54:22 | tucoz | b00st4, it's just for markup. Select text or something |
| 22:54:34 | tucoz | or 'no' |
| 22:55:09 | tucoz | midkay, should I try something ? |
| 22:55:54 | midkay | tucoz, what? if you want.. :) |
| 22:56:42 | tucoz | midkay, hehe. didn't know if you wanted me to try something to track the bug |
| 22:57:23 | midkay | tucoz, ah, no.. :) i just figured out how to get it working, i don't really feel like screwing around with the source right now though.. |
| 22:57:46 | tucoz | :) |
| 22:58:11 | b00st4 | http://pastebin.com/623891 |
| 22:58:11 | linuxstb | midkay: Nice spot - tagcache works on my ipod as well with that workaround. |
| 22:58:23 | b00st4 | typed down |
| 22:58:53 | midkay | linuxstb, cool. i'm just curious what player Slasheri has, and if it works for him already, and if so, why.. |
| 22:59:02 | linuxstb | As expected, it built a database containing both my itunes-loaded files and everything else on my disk. |
| 22:59:05 | preglow | he has a h140 |
| 22:59:15 | midkay | it works for him? |
| 22:59:19 | preglow | linuxstb: that rocks pretty badly |
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| 22:59:25 | tucoz | linuxstb, so you can browse your itunes files as well? |
| 22:59:28 | preglow | no more ITUNES PLZ |
| 22:59:48 | b00st4 | tucoz: http://pastebin.com/623894 |
| 22:59:49 | linuxstb | tucoz: Yes - tagcache includes them both. The files itunes copies have normal tags in them as well. |
| 22:59:52 | midkay | linuxstb, try browsing "songs". do you get a bunch of /iPod_Control/Music/blabla crap? |
| 22:59:57 | tucoz | linuxstb, cool. |
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| 23:00:09 | Mikachu | b00st4: you want more than that |
| 23:00:20 | b00st4 | hm? |
| 23:00:26 | Mikachu | that just says 'omg error' |
| 23:00:30 | Mikachu | you missed the actual error |
| 23:00:35 | linuxstb | midkay: I can't notice anything like that. |
| 23:00:55 | midkay | linuxstb, hmm. ohh... they're mp4 files, videos. |
| 23:01:00 | midkay | that's weird, should be removed.. |
| 23:02:11 | b00st4 | shall i do a screen? |
| 23:02:14 | midkay | hmm.. i wonder what the deal is.. i don't have any duplicates in here like i should. |
| 23:02:39 | midkay | does anyone know if tagcache caches flac files? |
| 23:03:03 | linuxstb | midkay: Yes, I have lots of flac files. |
| 23:03:03 | Mikachu | b00st4: just paste the whole error in pastebin... |
| 23:03:15 | Mikachu | 387 cds of flac files to be exact? :) |
| 23:03:32 | webguest16 | tagcache seems a bit over-zealous about removing duplicates |
| 23:03:34 | midkay | linuxstb, then maybe it's not indexing iPod_control.. because i have my collection in FLAC on /, and everything in mp3 for ipod firmware in iPod_control/music.. |
| 23:03:55 | midkay | or, maybe it's removing duplicates, yes.. :) bad idea.. i think.. |
| 23:04:14 | webguest16 | Same here |
| 23:04:26 | midkay | maybe an option.. "remove duplicates" - "no", "from ipod_control", "from root except ipod_control", "yes" or something. |
| 23:04:36 | webguest16 | The duplicates it's removing for me just happen to share the same title |
| 23:04:39 | midkay | so you can define where your actual intended song collection is.. |
| 23:04:42 | linuxstb | Yes, I think there are problems with duplicates - I have multiple copies of the same songs, and if I click on one such song in "songs", then Rockbox freezes. |
| 23:04:43 | midkay | webguest16, same for me.. |
| 23:04:59 | XavierGr | During save of file Main.IriverBoot an error was found by the version control system. Please notify your Rockbox administrator. |
| 23:04:59 | XavierGr | Go back in your browser and save your changes locally. |
| 23:05:08 | webguest16 | Anyway, Slasheri is aware of this |
| 23:05:10 | XavierGr | what's that supposed to mean |
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| 23:08:10 | Paprica | linuxstb? |
| 23:08:23 | linuxstb | yes? |
| 23:08:41 | Paprica | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4760 |
| 23:08:58 | Paprica | look at the last comment |
| 23:09:12 | Paprica | if you could try it.... i'll be happy =] |
| 23:09:45 | midkay | is there ipod 5g support? i'd like to try it if there was.. |
| 23:09:56 | Paprica | midkay, not yet |
| 23:10:11 | b00st4 | screenshot: http://www.picfury.com/4/error-7.html |
| 23:10:33 | Paprica | new rockbox keyboard will be very useful for this plugin |
| 23:10:52 | linuxstb | Paprica: Sorry, I'm busy with real work atm. I can try in a couple of hours if no-one else can help. |
| 23:11:08 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:11:20 | Paprica | ok, it's not high priority |
| 23:11:31 | midkay | Paprica, what needs doing for 5G? |
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| 23:12:15 | Paprica | haha alot :] |
| 23:12:16 | Paprica | mm |
| 23:12:42 | Paprica | bigger keyboard, fit the calendar to ipod video screen |
| 23:12:49 | Paprica | mm |
| 23:12:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Alright, how do I enable tagcache on the first time? Just "Force Tagcache update?" |
| 23:13:25 | tucoz | b00st4, looks like something is wrong with the contact plugin |
| 23:14:48 | b00st4 | and the battery_bench |
| 23:14:56 | midkay | Paprica, if i make the necessary bitmaps.. the code part is pretty easy to scale, isn't it.. ? :) |
| 23:15:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: No, battery bench was succesful |
| 23:15:15 | b00st4 | the contact plugin i simply pasted in the plugin dir and added it to sources |
| 23:15:26 | Paprica | midkay, the keyboard thing is annoying |
| 23:15:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: There's definitely something wrong, notice all the errors are in contact.o |
| 23:15:45 | Paprica | look at the key_coords array |
| 23:16:02 | b00st4 | /* plugins common to all models */ |
| 23:16:02 | b00st4 | contact.c |
| 23:16:02 | b00st4 | timetable.c |
| 23:16:02 | b00st4 | #endif |
| 23:16:06 | b00st4 | like this |
| 23:16:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: The problem is in contact.c itself |
| 23:16:46 | b00st4 | so the file is nuked |
| 23:16:49 | b00st4 | ? |
| 23:16:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: It's trying to use memcpy, which isn't available to it in that way. |
| 23:16:56 | lodesi | b00st4: wait a min, i'm correcting this |
| 23:17:18 | b00st4 | thx |
| 23:17:23 | b00st4 | u wrote this? |
| 23:17:30 | lodesi | yep :) |
| 23:17:32 | b00st4 | ^^ |
| 23:17:34 | midkay | Paprica, what's with all the diffs? |
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| 23:18:13 | Paprica | midkay, if you make a bitmap, i recommend you to base on h3xx bitmap layout |
| 23:18:29 | midkay | Paprica, that's what i mean. the same exact layout, just bigger. |
| 23:18:42 | b00st4 | thx |
| 23:18:55 | b00st4 | now i just have to replace? |
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| 23:19:00 | lodesi | no prob, can you confirm if it correct's the problem ? |
| 23:19:07 | b00st4 | sure |
| 23:19:09 | midkay | Paprica, fwiw, i haven't tried it, but the screenshots and bitmaps look great.. i love the way the keyboard looks. |
| 23:19:11 | lodesi | yes, replace the old file with this one |
| 23:19:13 | * | amiconn whsipers "use the force (==standard vkeyboard), Paprica" |
| 23:19:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | tagcache only supports MP3? |
| 23:19:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | :( |
| 23:19:39 | crwl | no, it supported at least vorbis fine here |
| 23:19:48 | * | Paprica wants new vkeyboard |
| 23:19:53 | crwl | only that songs in albums seemed to be in reverse order, heh |
| 23:20:08 | * | tucoz thinks the vkeybard proposal in the wiki looks promising |
| 23:20:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | crwl: I only have MP3s and flacs, I believe. |
| 23:20:31 | midkay | i like the look of Paprica's keyboard.. large and simple.. familiar shift/caps lock, etc.. |
| 23:20:38 | crwl | Paul_The_Nerd, hrm. I don't know if I have flacs on my player, so no idea about them |
| 23:20:55 | crwl | I've got perhaps thousands of FLACs in my HD though, I always transcode them to vorbis |
| 23:21:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | crwl: Ah. I'd been lead to understand it was going to build using all filetypes rockbox supported. But then, I have patience. |
| 23:21:16 | midkay | except maybe the qwerty layout.. i think that might not be very nice since you can't access the keys directly.. |
| 23:21:21 | Paprica | midkay, make the bitmaps, define all to fit to ipod video, i'll do the keyboard array thing |
| 23:21:23 | tucoz | midkay, as long as it could work with other non-latin chars |
| 23:21:40 | crwl | Paul_The_Nerd, I think it's going to support them all, yes |
| 23:21:41 | * | amiconn doesn't like the rockcalendar keyboard |
| 23:21:57 | amiconn | Too many keypresses to get things done |
| 23:22:02 | tucoz | midkay, have you had a loook at the keyboard in the wiki? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VKeyboardDesignProposal |
| 23:22:12 | crwl | if not already then, I only quickly tried it |
| 23:22:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | crwl: It doesn't do my flacs. Time to copy over .oggs and see. |
| 23:22:34 | midkay | tucoz, yes, briefly. looks like a nice idea, but i don't see any code or on-target demos, so... :) |
| 23:22:53 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: AFAIK, tagcache should support all filetypes currently supported by Rockbox. I think it indexed my FLACs OK. |
| 23:22:57 | tucoz | hehe, you are right. |
| 23:23:02 | midkay | Paprica, alright, i'll work on bitmaps and see what i can do |
| 23:23:09 | Paprica | ok |
| 23:23:15 | tucoz | mine indexes flacs |
| 23:23:22 | | Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:23:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: It *only* shows one album in my index, http://www.ocremix.org, and two genres Game and Unknown. |
| 23:23:54 | midkay | Paprica, take your time if you're gonna work on the code though.. not sure how long it will take |
| 23:24:55 | Paprica | midkay, i have no time to code, i have an history test on Thursday |
| 23:25:05 | Paprica | i need to learn =\ |
| 23:25:29 | midkay | Paprica, oho, alright. :) hmm.. do you know what basically needs to be changed to scale it to the video? i can probably handle it.. |
| 23:26:09 | crwl | jesus, i upgraded a new rockbox build and for some reason it booted to the original iriver firmware |
| 23:26:31 | crwl | will we soon be able to throw that away completely? :P |
| 23:26:34 | crwl | result: -5... hrm. |
| 23:26:45 | amiconn | Swcodec playback is really shaky now with the latest builds... :( |
| 23:27:37 | crwl | amiconn, since how long? |
| 23:27:53 | tucoz | amiconn, isn't it comforting that the release date is closing in ;-) |
| 23:29:22 | Mikachu | looks like you will be busy this month |
| 23:30:51 | b00st4 | lodesi: still an error |
| 23:30:57 | * | amiconn really hopes that some more devs than during the 2.5 freeze will actually be working on fixing stuff this time :/ |
| 23:31:17 | amiconn | Last time it was like 3 devs actually working on fixing stuff |
| 23:31:29 | lodesi | b00st4: weird, i didn't get al of them.. can you do another screenshot ? |
| 23:32:22 | * | amiconn thinks he should commit the archos wav playback plugin |
| 23:32:26 | amiconn | Opinions? |
| 23:32:34 | b00st4 | http://www.picfury.com/4/error-8.html |
| 23:32:39 | lodesi | amiconn: i'm dying to test it ;) |
| 23:32:40 | b00st4 | jap |
| 23:32:45 | b00st4 | of course ;) |
| 23:32:53 | amiconn | lodesi: No chance to test yet? |
| 23:33:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: That's a different file though |
| 23:33:19 | lodesi | i can test as soon as it's commited or you send a patch |
| 23:33:39 | b00st4 | i neva touched libplugin.a |
| 23:33:44 | amiconn | The patch is in the tracker, already updated it multiple times... |
| 23:34:02 | lodesi | amiconn: ok, wait a min |
| 23:34:03 | b00st4 | no rule to make timetable.c needed |
| 23:34:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz: Okay, maybe I'm doing something wrong. How did you go about properly enabling tagcache? |
| 23:34:26 | b00st4 | must have something to do with it |
| 23:34:32 | lodesi | b00st4: check that you have timetable.c in apps/plugins |
| 23:35:03 | tucoz | Paul_The_Nerd, hmm. Try to delete the tagcache* files from /.rockbox and do a force update afterwards |
| 23:35:38 | b00st4 | lodesi: del that file |
| 23:35:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz: Trying that, then. |
| 23:35:55 | lodesi | b00st4: it's not there ? |
| 23:35:58 | tucoz | I think that's what I made |
| 23:35:59 | b00st4 | no |
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| 23:36:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: Well, it's trying to build it. That might be why you're getting an error |
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| 23:36:28 | b00st4 | hm, i know, i think its still in the source |
| 23:36:51 | b00st4 | yap |
| 23:36:55 | lodesi | b00st4: update to the cvs repository, it'll get it back |
| 23:37:01 | b00st4 | this should be the reason |
| 23:38:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is timetable part of CVS? I thought it was still just a patch. |
| 23:38:39 | b00st4 | no, it was a plugin, but it didnt work for me |
| 23:38:51 | b00st4 | no no errors, thx lodesi |
| 23:39:02 | lodesi | b00st4: cool, no prob :) |
| 23:40:35 | amiconn | aaaargghhh!!! |
| 23:41:27 | amiconn | Shouldn't have done that. cvs up caused a conflict in english.lang and I forgot to make a copy this time. :( |
| 23:41:43 | BHSPitLappy | o noes |
| 23:42:10 | kclaf | guys, is tagcache part of the cvs or only a patch atm ? |
| 23:42:15 | midkay | precisely why i hate 'up'.. |
| 23:42:19 | Mikachu | amiconn: what about .#english.lang.324234? |
| 23:42:22 | Mikachu | or whatever it gets named |
| 23:42:28 | linuxstb | kclaf: It's in CVS. |
| 23:43:02 | kclaf | linuxstb : aww nice gonna try it right now |
| 23:44:07 | amiconn | Mikachu: Hmm. Is that a diff of what cvs changed in my local file? |
| 23:44:17 | amiconn | It actually looks like this, never noticed... |
| 23:44:18 | Mikachu | it should be a copy of the file you had before i think |
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| 23:44:56 | amiconn | Ah, yes |
| 23:45:17 | tucoz | amiconn, phew? |
| 23:45:18 | b00st4 | k, no i did all the cahnces to my firmware and i have the zip |
| 23:45:30 | amiconn | tucoz: Yeah, definitey |
| 23:45:34 | amiconn | *definitely |
| 23:45:34 | tucoz | goodie |
| 23:45:35 | b00st4 | do i just have to unzip it on rootfolder of my ipod? |
| 23:46:36 | b00st4 | and do the settings get lost? |
| 23:46:49 | lodesi | amiconn: wavplay works perfectly :) |
| 23:47:42 | lodesi | going back to mp3 is ok |
| 23:48:06 | amiconn | Anyone having an idea where to post corrections for errors found in datasheets? |
| 23:48:50 | amiconn | I already know several errors in the datasheets contained in our wiki |
| 23:49:21 | linuxstb | Maybe create a DatasheetErrata page, and add links from the main datasheets wiki page? |
| 23:51:58 | b00st4 | is there any source for plugins? im searchin for doom game |
| 23:52:03 | bam_ | anyone know how to compile just a plugin by itself...? |
| 23:52:08 | b00st4 | just find the patches |
| 23:52:23 | Mikachu | bam_: look at the output from make V=1 |
| 23:52:41 | bam_ | ok |
| 23:52:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: The doom game source is in the patch tracker |
| 23:53:44 | lodesi | time to sleep |
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| 23:54:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz: Okay, so I remade it the *exact* same way as I did it the first time, and this time it seems to have worked. =/ |
| 23:54:47 | b00st4 | the source? |
| 23:54:53 | tucoz | Paul_The_Nerd, cool |
| 23:55:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: Seeing as you apply it before you compile, it pretty much has to be the source doesn't it? ;-) |
| 23:56:18 | b00st4 | yap :D |
| 23:56:20 | b00st4 | im tired |
| 23:56:28 | b00st4 | what version is it? 0.86? |
| 23:57:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | b00st4: Why don't you just look. There's sources for several versions. |
| 23:57:58 | b00st4 | the latest i find is 0.86 on flyspray, but its over one week old |
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