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| 00:08:06 | ]RowaN[ | has anyone come in here to argue that /games/doom should go into /rockbox/games/doom or would i be the first one? =p |
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| 00:24:33 | bluebrother^ | linuxstb: did the trick. Thanks! |
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| 00:33:38 | scottder | I wish i had picked up an H120 back in the day |
| 00:33:51 | scottder | what other dap has a digital output :) |
| 00:39:26 | amiconn | archos recorders do |
| 00:40:38 | amiconn | For some reason I have the impression that many newer daps are a step back concerning numerous features |
| 00:41:19 | linuxstb | DRM and digital outputs don't go well together either. |
| 00:42:31 | amiconn | archos recorders have digital in+out, and so does the iriver h1x0 series |
| 00:44:14 | scottder | recorder had a digital output? huh |
| 00:44:20 | amiconn | Yes |
| 00:44:21 | scottder | didn't know that |
| 00:44:26 | scottder | I had a Series 5000 |
| 00:44:30 | scottder | ollllld school :) |
| 00:44:32 | amiconn | Not optical, but electrical |
| 00:44:47 | scottder | ? |
| 00:44:50 | amiconn | The 5000 didn't. It's the player |
| 00:44:55 | sharpe | heh. |
| 00:45:30 | Mikachu | digital output means the pcm data is sent there? |
| 00:45:40 | amiconn | s/pdif |
| 00:45:59 | Mikachu | ah right |
| 00:46:04 | amiconn | s/pdif exists in 2 incarnations, optical (toslink) and electrical |
| 00:46:21 | Mikachu | i think my sblive has one of those, but i can plug in regular phone contacts in it too |
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| 00:59:18 | Zoide777 | hi guys |
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| 01:00:13 | Zoide777 | how does this work? queue_post(&pcmrec_queue, PCMREC_INIT, 0); |
| 01:00:43 | Zoide777 | I'm trying to debug pcm_record.c, and there is a while(!init_done) after that call that just sleeps |
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| 01:01:17 | Zoide777 | but then the execution doesn't seem to go anywhere. i even have a gui_syncsplash at the start of every function in pcm_record.c to try to find where it goes, but it seems to go nowhere |
| 01:02:33 | Mikachu | another thread would have to change that variable |
| 01:02:43 | Mikachu | presumably the pcmrec thread |
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| 01:22:22 | Zoide777 | Mikachu: wouldn't that thread be code that is in pcm_record.c? I ask b/c I already put gui_syncsplashes at the beginning of every function there and it seems to go nowhere.. |
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| 01:24:35 | Mikachu | where a thread runs isn't really controlled by the file |
| 01:24:39 | Mikachu | playback.c starts 3 threads |
| 01:25:00 | Mikachu | code in that file may or may not be run by your thread |
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| 01:29:00 | Zoide777 | Mikachu: i see. but I just can't figure out where the code from the thread is from... i mean, the call is queue_post(&pcmrec_queue, PCMREC_INIT, 0), so I supposed that execution would go to pcmrec_init(), which is in pcm_record.c |
| 01:29:41 | Mikachu | you want to find the code that polls pcmrec_queue |
| 01:29:53 | Mikachu | and possibly the switch statement that has a "case PCMREC_INIT:" |
| 01:30:02 | Zoide777 | ahhh |
| 01:30:04 | Zoide777 | let's see |
| 01:32:18 | Zoide777 | ok, I grepped the whole source code, and only pcm_record.c has "case PCMREC_INIT", which is in pcmrec_thread(). the strange thing is that I have a gui_syncsplash() right at the start of pcmrec_thread(), and it never seems to be called (i.e. the text in the gui_syncsplash doesn't come on screen) |
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| 01:35:32 | Mikachu | then possibly the thread is never started |
| 01:35:48 | Mikachu | do you have a delay on the syncsplash too, maybe it's getting overwritten? |
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| 01:39:16 | amiconn | The delay won't help if the ui thread overwrites it |
| 01:39:25 | Mikachu | that's true |
| 01:39:44 | Mikachu | what if you have a 0 delay and spin? (evil) |
| 01:40:28 | amiconn | I bet the pcmrec thread either doesn't get started, or it hangs somewhere in an init |
| 01:42:09 | Zoide777 | could having gui_syncsplashes all over the place cause something like that? |
| 01:42:37 | Mikachu | it might be easier to debug with the piezo :) |
| 01:43:18 | Zoide777 | hehe |
| 01:43:33 | Zoide777 | oh how I miss good old printf() on a console.. |
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| 01:58:02 | lamed | hello everyone. I'd love if some serious devs take a l00k at my thread over http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3425.0 |
| 01:59:20 | Mikachu | new prboom release again |
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| 02:03:49 | essoe | Hi, I was hoping someone could help me, I couldn't find an answer in the forums, or wiki. I've installed rockbox on my ipod photo 4g, but when booting I get a Rockbox error: -1 .. I know my partions run LinuxOnIpod, but wasnt sure if they're setup right for rockbox.. thanks |
| 02:08:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | essoe: Have you copied rockbox.ipod and the .rockbox folder over, or extracted rockbox.zip in the root of your player? |
| 02:09:01 | dpassen1 | Someone should create a Wiki page with all the error codes and what they mean (how to fix, etc.) |
| 02:10:20 | essoe | Paul: yeah I got the daily build and extracted it there |
| 02:11:19 | essoe | Paul: would it matter that I have other files there ? ( I installed LinuxForIpod first).. and do you know what the -1 Error means? |
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| 02:12:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | essoe: Well, it needs to be in the first partition (well, second once you count the hidden boot partition) and that partition MUST be Fat32 formatted |
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| 02:16:34 | essoe | paul: thanks =) that fixed it.. I was putting in the 3rd parition, the one I'd setup for linux previously |
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| 02:17:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | essoe: Error -1 means rockbox.ipod can't be found, so I figured you either hadn't copied it, had it in the wrong place, or had the wrong format partition. :) |
| 02:20:10 | essoe | paul- dump question.. but how do I get to my music? |
| 02:21:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | You browse to it? |
| 02:21:23 | Mikachu | i think ipod_control is hidden by default |
| 02:21:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox is filetree based in the default configuration, so you just browse to your music and click on it. Since ipod_control is hidden, you need to set the ipod to show all files (hold Menu to get a quickscreen, then hit Play a few times 'till it says "All Files") |
| 02:22:04 | midkay | *cough*tagcache |
| 02:22:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | essoe: Rockbox also has a database you can use instead, explained herehttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache |
| 02:22:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Oi, give me time. |
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| 02:22:35 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, just hurry up!!! |
| 02:22:36 | midkay | :) |
| 02:22:39 | Mikachu | you need an answer bot |
| 02:22:45 | essoe | thanks =) .. one more question.. how do I quit snake2 ? .. up and menu doesnt seem to work |
| 02:22:47 | midkay | haha. i find it amusing that you have your plan laid out. :) |
| 02:23:10 | Mikachu | essoe: i think the keybinds are a bit broken for ipod in that plugin |
| 02:23:19 | Mikachu | just press some random keys and it should quit after a while :) |
| 02:23:34 | midkay | haha. |
| 02:23:43 | midkay | hold menu, tap select, at the initial screen.. |
| 02:29:13 | essoe | one last question.. Is there a util or something that can take the F00, F01, etc dirs of an ipod, and recreate the Artist\Album dir structure? |
| 02:29:41 | midkay | yes, TagCache.. which was mentioned by Paul_The_Nerd a moment ago |
| 02:30:13 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 02:30:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | essoe: Any tag&rename type tool should be able to build a directory structure from the filenames in the files, but you'll then be unable to play them in the apple software. If you use tagcache, you get a menu similar to what the apple software gives that lets you browse by Artist, Album, or Genre |
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| 02:36:33 | essoe | thanks−− I've been running linux on my pc for awhile, and hadnt been able to easily update/exchange stuff between the ipod.. This should work really well tho.. my biggest worry was that I had a large partition in itunes that I wanted to keep using, or adding to, but I didnt own the pc that it was synced to.. so I just had a backup of it.. Thanks again, this looks really cool |
| 02:36:48 | Mikachu | fwiw, gtkpod worked pretty well |
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| 02:44:35 | essoe | how do you go back to song info? |
| 02:44:49 | Mikachu | press play in the file browser |
| 02:44:54 | essoe | thanks |
| 02:45:15 | Mikachu | and if you're using daily builds, i think the one from 3rd april will work better than current ones |
| 02:45:25 | Mikachu | if you want to actually listen to music |
| 02:45:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 02:45:37 | essoe | is it that bad that I'll notice? |
| 02:45:41 | Mikachu | yes |
| 02:45:43 | essoe | I crashed it already once |
| 02:45:55 | essoe | okay thanks for the heads up |
| 02:45:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's a few freezes in the playback code, I think relating to next track and or seeking |
| 02:46:08 | Mikachu | it also plays the wrong song sometimes, and makes funny noises |
| 02:46:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oooh, neat. |
| 02:46:20 | midkay | haha. |
| 02:46:30 | midkay | do they sound like farts? *prays* |
| 02:46:35 | midkay | i'll upgrade for sure!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:46:35 | scottder | Ok I have been poking around the wiki, whats the quick and dirty way to make playlists? |
| 02:46:36 | Mikachu | not really |
| 02:46:40 | midkay | bah. |
| 02:46:44 | Mikachu | sry |
| 02:46:47 | midkay | *unplugs iPod* |
| 02:46:49 | midkay | yeah. whatever. |
| 02:46:54 | midkay | :\ |
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| 02:47:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Y'know what's funny? My laptop died on 04-03, so I stopped making custom builds for myself, and just stuck with the one I made at 8 AM CST that morning |
| 02:47:14 | Mikachu | heh |
| 02:47:25 | midkay | haha. .. your laptop died. haha. |
| 02:47:29 | midkay | le Pwnd. |
| 02:47:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | scottder: Insert songs until you have the playlist you desire, then choose the playist options in the menu, and save it? |
| 02:48:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Well, it's being replaced under warranty. Oddly enough, my desktop takes 10 seconds more to compile than the laptop did. |
| 02:48:27 | Mikachu | you remember how many seconds a build takes? |
| 02:48:34 | Mikachu | it's not just because more plugins are added? |
| 02:48:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | I had those plugins already |
| 02:48:45 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha. even more pwnd.. |
| 02:48:46 | Mikachu | i guess none are added since the 4th |
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| 02:49:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | It went from 1:31 to 1:43 |
| 02:49:35 | Mikachu | i rarely rebuild the whole tree |
| 02:49:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I did, because I was curious if my desktop was faster. |
| 02:50:10 | Mikachu | ah |
| 02:50:29 | Mikachu | same version of gcc etc? |
| 02:50:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's odd though. I mean, the files are on a faster HD, it has twice the ram available, and the laptop has the DTR version of the exact same processor as my desktop. There's not really a practical reason why the laptop would be faster. |
| 02:50:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: I copied the VMWare image over. |
| 02:50:56 | Mikachu | ah |
| 02:51:20 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, wait, did you forget to pause your hundreds of porn downloads? those can be real CPU suckers.. ;) |
| 02:51:26 | scottder | Paul_The_Nerd: hmmm ok will have to play with it more |
| 02:51:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | scottder: The quickest and dirtiest way is to create one in winamp and simply copy it over |
| 02:52:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Oh, right, maybe I shouldn't have been playing Oblivion while running 37 torrents and watching a DVD, right? |
| 02:52:38 | Mikachu | 37??! |
| 02:52:45 | scottder | I use foobar2000 |
| 02:52:46 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah, that may not have helped as much as we once believed.. |
| 02:53:14 | scottder | what would be awesome is a foobar2000/winamp plugin that could sync for rockbox and build the tagcache :) |
| 02:54:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: It's a joke. I wasn't running anything else. And I never run more than 8 torrents at once. |
| 02:55:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | scottder: Well, foobar2000 can save m3u playlists as well. As for building tagcache, it's open source so one could conceivably create a plugin for foobar2000 to do it if someone really wanted to. |
| 02:55:23 | Mikachu | i realized that not more than one second after i pressed enter |
| 02:55:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | No worries. |
| 02:55:38 | essoe | is there a shutdown option? |
| 02:55:42 | scottder | Paul_The_Nerd: indeed....just thinking out loud really |
| 02:55:48 | Mikachu | essoe: hold play for a few seconds |
| 02:55:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | essoe: Hold play/pause for about 6-8 seconds |
| 02:56:18 | Mikachu | maybe i should stop hogging my quit menu to myself |
| 02:56:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | scottder: it's definitely been suggested. It'd build tagcache a LOT quicker than the built in feature, and would be useful for people who often change their music on small-storage players (Nano, and I suppose Ondio) |
| 02:57:03 | Mikachu | the nano is almost small enough to not need much managing of the music |
| 02:57:24 | BHSPitLappy | :/ |
| 02:57:42 | scottder | I just do a genre/artist/album layout and itb works fine for me |
| 02:57:57 | scottder | and with music a Q4 and Q3 ogg vorbis...holds plenty for my needs |
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| 03:00:34 | maeck | yeah, built my first plugin, created a cross compiler and got the rock on th eipod working. YEAH |
| 03:01:04 | Mikachu | you built an existing plugin or you wrote a new one? |
| 03:01:27 | maeck | new one from the ground up |
| 03:01:39 | Mikachu | what's it do? |
| 03:01:42 | maeck | it is just a proof of concept for a graphical menu |
| 03:01:54 | Mikachu | ah |
| 03:02:21 | maeck | the scrollwheel is not behaving as I thought it would be |
| 03:02:46 | Mikachu | the wheel driver isn't very sophisticated |
| 03:03:23 | maeck | need to check what is going on. |
| 03:04:25 | maeck | anyhow, can someone explain how bitmaps are loaded? I included: extern const fb_data jewels[]; |
| 03:04:36 | Mikachu | that would be not me |
| 03:04:37 | maeck | now, magically the jewels bmp file gets loaded |
| 03:04:53 | maeck | did not expect it would be. |
| 03:04:56 | Mikachu | it's compiled into the plugin lib |
| 03:05:00 | Mikachu | so the linker finds it for you |
| 03:05:03 | Mikachu | i think |
| 03:05:16 | maeck | hmm, that would be cool |
| 03:05:25 | Mikachu | it'll be stored in your .rock |
| 03:05:49 | maeck | so that would be somewhere in the make file I guess |
| 03:05:58 | maeck | the reference to the file |
| 03:07:16 | maeck | anyhow, got plenty more to do on this. but first ARM build works like a charm... somehow at least |
| 03:13:14 | Mikachu | the bmp files are converted to fb_data arrays before being linked |
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| 03:23:18 | maeck | thanks |
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| 03:46:11 | essoe | is it possible to lockup where you cant reboot at all? |
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| 03:48:32 | goffa_ | essoe: you may have to hit the reset button |
| 03:48:41 | goffa_ | if you cant get your player off |
| 03:49:05 | essoe | goffa- wheres the reset button on an ipod?.. |
| 03:49:40 | Galois | menu+select |
| 03:49:48 | Galois | hold for five seconds |
| 03:50:30 | goffa_ | thanks Galois ... i wasn't going to be able to answer that |
| 03:50:32 | essoe | galois- okay−− thast not working either |
| 03:50:52 | Galois | it should ALWAYS work. It's a hardware circuit, just as good as the old paper clip pinholes of yore |
| 03:51:14 | goffa_ | < - has the paper clip pinhole |
| 03:51:29 | essoe | it doesnt work tho−− |
| 03:51:36 | Mikachu | hold them down longer |
| 03:51:43 | essoe | I tried minute plus |
| 03:51:46 | Mikachu | heh |
| 03:51:48 | Mikachu | is hold on? |
| 03:51:52 | essoe | no |
| 03:52:04 | Galois | you need a minimal amount of dexterity to hit the buttons at the same time, that's all |
| 03:52:15 | essoe | I can tell how I crashed it though |
| 03:52:31 | Mikachu | you don't have to press them at the same time |
| 03:53:10 | essoe | I created the database with all my files in F0 F1, etc dirs.. then connected to pc, deleted all the files on the ipod, and reuploaded them.. tried to create new list, but the ipod tried to play gtkpod######.mp3 and remembered that, and hung at that screen |
| 03:53:21 | essoe | I guess I'll just wait for the battery to die, and then boot up in hd mode afterwards |
| 03:56:54 | lostlogic | blah, I hate bugs that I can't reproduce with logf on . |
| 03:59:36 | Mikachu | essoe: tried holding down just play? |
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| 04:11:13 | lostlogic | whee, almost commit time! |
| 04:11:57 | * | Mikachu breaks out the cookies and lemonade |
| 04:12:41 | lostlogic | I've ended up doing another fairly big refactor in the process of fixing buffer fill initialization :-\ |
| 04:13:45 | JdGordon | is it "safe" to run my gfx card @ 78C ? |
| 04:13:56 | Mikachu | i would feel a bit uneasy |
| 04:14:01 | Mikachu | but i think so |
| 04:14:15 | Mikachu | according to nvidia-settings, my card will clock down when it reaches 150° |
| 04:14:21 | Mikachu | which i think seems a tad high |
| 04:14:53 | lostlogic | most chips are rated at 90c before physical damage occurs, so 78 should be fine as long as you aren't getting artifacts |
| 04:15:06 | Mikachu | it will probably degrade faster, the hotter it is |
| 04:15:18 | Mikachu | but as long as it lasts 2 years it shouldn't matter :) |
| 04:15:52 | JdGordon | i turned off both fans in my comp.. gpu is at 78C, cpu is 50 and psu is 50.. and its nice n quiet :D |
| 04:16:10 | JdGordon | im tihnking i should turn em back on to and get that all down to 60, 30,30 |
| 04:16:24 | lostlogic | goffa_ (and any other swcodec people) please test latest commit. |
| 04:16:32 | JdGordon | gpu has no fan directly on it.. and its jammed beteen 2 other cards |
| 04:16:35 | JdGordon | ayway |
| 04:16:36 | JdGordon | im off |
| 04:18:10 | Mikachu | JdGordon: i have an 80 mm fan hanging in a string next to my computer blowing air in :) |
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| 04:31:19 | Jungti1234 | hm |
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| 04:31:49 | Doomed | hi |
| 04:32:09 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 04:32:57 | Doomed | is the playback bac kt onormal yet? |
| 04:33:06 | Mikachu | maybe it is a bit better now |
| 04:33:12 | Mikachu | lolo just did something |
| 04:33:35 | Doomed | like can u add tracks to playlist yet? |
| 04:35:06 | Mikachu | lostlogic: seeking seems a bit messed up now, but i can't guarantee it's not something i did |
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| 04:35:50 | Jungti1234 | How do I use the bookmark? |
| 04:35:57 | Jungti1234 | in rockbox |
| 04:37:28 | Doomed | dunno |
| 04:37:31 | Doomed | what is bookmark |
| 04:37:39 | Jungti1234 | ahh |
| 04:37:44 | Jungti1234 | I found it |
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| 04:38:01 | Mikachu | lostlogic: i set a B mark and the progress bar jumped to 0:00 but the song continued playing (also had set an A mark before that) |
| 04:38:09 | Jungti1234 | Doomed: I don't speak well english. |
| 04:38:10 | Mikachu | lostlogic: but regular seeking seems weird in the same way |
| 04:38:53 | Doomed | its dead here tonight |
| 04:40:43 | Mikachu | lostlogic: and skipping fast still brings up some spurious codec failure signs |
| 04:42:27 | lostlogic | Mikachu: that's existed since before, it's just a mistaken error message, because the codec gets stopped before it's initialized due to the fast skipping |
| 04:42:36 | Mikachu | okay |
| 04:42:42 | Mikachu | seeking is megabusted though |
| 04:42:54 | lostlogic | Mikachu: how megabusted, the above are just GUI abberations |
| 04:43:12 | lostlogic | Doomed: I think it's fairly back to normal now |
| 04:43:20 | Doomed | ok thanks |
| 04:43:21 | Mikachu | it seeks to the wrong place, seeks many times, changes tracks sometimes |
| 04:43:24 | lostlogic | Doomed: please test it and let me konw :-P |
| 04:43:44 | Doomed | wait, what are u talking about |
| 04:45:12 | Galois | even without seeking, I can get codec failure just by playing a song |
| 04:45:51 | lostlogic | Galois: latest CVS, any further detail? |
| 04:46:11 | lostlogic | Mikachu: seeking is messed up when you seek to an area not in RAM, or all seeks? |
| 04:46:14 | Galois | lostlogic, I was using CVS from 12 hrs ago |
| 04:46:26 | lostlogic | Galois: use new CVS, I've made major bug fixes since then |
| 04:46:26 | Galois | I'll update now |
| 04:47:33 | Mikachu | HM |
| 04:47:37 | Mikachu | now it claims it is out of battery |
| 04:47:46 | Mikachu | it has been plugged in the whole day |
| 04:47:50 | Mikachu | in apple os |
| 04:48:03 | Galois | reset! <g> |
| 04:48:04 | warthawg | i don't understand how uisimulator works |
| 04:48:07 | lostlogic | how claims? shutoff hard? |
| 04:48:17 | Mikachu | it said <battery icon> in b/w |
| 04:48:23 | Mikachu | and now it won't turn on the lcd |
| 04:48:37 | lostlogic | odd. |
| 04:48:42 | Mikachu | incredibyl |
| 04:49:04 | lostlogic | Mikachu: rebuffer and seek is offically foobarred still |
| 04:49:07 | lostlogic | I'm working on it |
| 04:49:12 | Mikachu | okay |
| 04:49:33 | lostlogic | thought I'd tested that in one of my test cases, but I must not have gotten back into the unbuffered area |
| 04:49:49 | Mikachu | hm |
| 04:49:57 | Mikachu | looks like the boot partition broke a bit |
| 04:50:01 | Mikachu | it booted disk mode now at least |
| 04:51:56 | Mikachu | hm fat broken :/ |
| 04:53:02 | lostlogic | :( |
| 04:53:10 | lostlogic | I _didn't_ do it |
| 04:53:14 | Mikachu | i know |
| 04:53:17 | Mikachu | :) |
| 04:54:15 | Mikachu | hm, reading in emergency mode seems to not be as painfully slow as writing at least |
| 04:55:56 | Galois | hey, the latest cvs can play files without crashing |
| 04:56:05 | Galois | that's good... |
| 04:57:27 | Mikachu | already done copying to hd |
| 04:58:04 | lostlogic | Galois: :-P |
| 04:58:06 | lostlogic | Mikachu: it is |
| 04:58:18 | lostlogic | Galois: hopefully rebuffer and seek will be fixed soon too |
| 04:58:19 | Mikachu | not painfully slow? |
| 04:58:43 | lostlogic | Mikachu: it should all be usb 1.1 IIRC |
| 04:58:56 | Mikachu | well, it copied 1.1G in 4 minutes |
| 04:59:12 | Mikachu | that's 4.5MB/s |
| 04:59:23 | lostlogic | ok, I'm foncused. |
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| 05:01:49 | Mikachu | bzcat ipod_os_partition_backup.bz2 > /dev/sda1 got it booting apple os at least |
| 05:02:04 | lamed | hey guys; how hard is it to take the h-120 screen off? I've lost the ground connection on the headphone jack and I think the problem is underneath the screen. |
| 05:02:17 | lamed | hey guys; how hard is it to take the h-120 screen off? I've lost the ground connection on the headphone jack and I think the problem is underneath the screen. |
| 05:02:23 | lamed | whoops |
| 05:02:34 | Mikachu | hm, rewrote my rockboot.bin and it works too |
| 05:02:41 | Mikachu | i tried that first too but that didn't work |
| 05:02:51 | Mikachu | oh well! it works so i'm happy |
| 05:03:15 | Mikachu | hm, this is not a good message from rockbox i think |
| 05:03:19 | Mikachu | Save failed! |
| 05:03:21 | Mikachu | no partition? |
| 05:04:32 | lamed | hey guys; how hard is it to take the h-120 screen off? I've lost the ground connection on the headphone jack and I think the problem is underneath the screen. |
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| 05:05:21 | lamed | ...it looks like there's some spong layer keeping dust away glued to the board, should it be removed? |
| 05:05:48 | lostlogic | lamed: I don't think anyone here has a clue, and repeating yourself is extremely rude |
| 05:06:44 | lostlogic | well rebuffer no longer causes playback ot get messed up beyond repair, but it sure ain't good. |
| 05:07:30 | Mikachu | mkdosfs and copying backup back, lets see if this helps |
| 05:07:55 | lamed | listen, it's 6 in the morning, i haven't slept all night, and i'm off for a week from today; in times like this, you have no control over your hands :/ |
| 05:08:14 | Doomed | i do not know |
| 05:08:32 | Doomed | its probably like a normal lcd screen with a clip holding the wires down |
| 05:09:59 | lamed | the thing is, i don't know if there's a connector there or is it weired to place. and i'm not trying anything before I know what's that spong doing :/ nevermind, thanks anyway :( |
| 05:10:43 | Doomed | i think there might be a tut. on the rockbox site |
| 05:10:45 | Doomed | not sure |
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| 05:17:56 | harbel | Does anyone know how to get rid of the "Data Abort" error when loading addons in rockdoom with Doom 2? |
| 05:18:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:18:25 | Mikachu | yes, there's an option to turn off crashes in a hidden menu |
| 05:18:33 | Mikachu | i mean no, i don't know |
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| 05:23:25 | Jungti1234 | I want that change menu of rockbox. |
| 05:24:01 | Jungti1234 | Array |
| 05:25:14 | Jungti1234 | It's complicated and arrangement doesn't fit. |
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| 05:31:31 | essoe | how do you set rockbox so the "now playing" has the rockbox logo? |
| 05:31:49 | Mikachu | make a wps with the rb logo |
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| 05:32:24 | essoe | erh- I mean the default that has it.. I changed something, then replaced so setting and cant replace it |
| 05:33:06 | Jungti1234 | What is 'Stereo Width'? Space persimmon? |
| 05:33:06 | Jungti1234 | Cubic effect? |
| 05:33:11 | sharpe | how wide the little stereo in your player is. :D |
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| 05:33:55 | Jungti1234 | sharpe: Korean have many word... |
| 05:34:24 | sharpe | so does latin. |
| 05:34:49 | Jungti1234 | um? |
| 05:34:54 | Jungti1234 | Width is.. |
| 05:36:49 | Mikachu | crap, i still get save failed, no partition |
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| 05:40:18 | Jungti1234 | oops... what happened? |
| 05:40:30 | ashridah | netsplit |
| 05:41:25 | macdonalder | heh, on a network with so few servers they make themselves more apparant... ;) |
| 05:41:46 | ashridah | so few servers? |
| 05:42:00 | macdonalder | sorry, in comparison to dalnet or something |
| 05:42:00 | Jungti1234 | that option(loudness) is using in the Rockbox? |
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| 05:43:39 | ashridah | macdonalder: there's about 15-17 servers or so |
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| 05:45:15 | ashridah | and i don't think that includes the various hubs they use |
| 05:45:15 | macdonalder | ahhh the distribution is different, I get it |
| 05:46:17 | macdonalder | I thought dalnet had more 'cause I tend to split less there... they just have a larger portion of their servers in north america |
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| 05:46:57 | ashridah | macdonalder: freenode has more servers in europe than the US |
| 05:47:18 | macdonalder | yeah I'm looking at their server page ;) |
| 05:47:25 | macdonalder | cool |
| 05:47:32 | * | macdonalder bows out gracefully ;D |
| 05:47:44 | sharpe | i completely forgot what i was doing |
| 05:47:56 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 05:48:13 | Mikachu | sharpe: brooding? |
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| 05:48:45 | sharpe | that's about it |
| 05:50:11 | Jungti1234 | anyone don't know loudness is used in rockbox? |
| 05:50:48 | Jungti1234 | Super Bass, MDB, Auto Volume.... |
| 05:51:28 | Jungti1234 | I didn't saw it once... |
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| 05:54:29 | ashridah | Jungti1234: rockbox only has the parametric EQ and the basic bass/trebel sliders |
| 05:55:29 | Jungti1234 | then, why language file have Super Bass and so on? |
| 05:56:44 | ashridah | that's a good question. it could be a feature of the hardware decoder in some of the archos platforms |
| 05:57:48 | Jungti1234 | Then, do rockbox unuse it now? |
| 05:58:04 | ashridah | heh. does anyone find it strange that "The simplefied guide to compiling" has a url of http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile but the "Detailed instructions on compiling" link uses the url http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 05:58:29 | ashridah | Jungti1234: i don't know, if it's a feature of the hardware-decoding platforms, then it's probably still in use on those platforms |
| 05:59:04 | Mikachu | ashridah: maybe more detailed instructions are simpler to follow? :) |
| 05:59:18 | Jungti1234 | hmm.. ok, ashridah. Thank you very much. |
| 05:59:56 | ashridah | Mikachu: hehe |
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| 06:03:40 | sharpe | i'm going to try my hack for getting text output on the c64 emulator... |
| 06:04:04 | sharpe | yeah, i think aloud. |
| 06:04:22 | Jungti1234 | Did you remember that you do what at last? |
| 06:07:21 | Jungti1234 | Did you remember that you do what at last? |
| 06:07:22 | Jungti1234 | sdoo |
| 06:07:25 | Jungti1234 | sorry |
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| 06:20:06 | sharpe | hmm |
| 06:20:15 | sharpe | i've... something akin to text output. |
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| 06:21:58 | * | XvG slaps darkless around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:22:03 | XvG | Opps |
| 06:22:13 | goffa_ | heh.. haven't seen that it a long time |
| 06:22:32 | XvG | :X |
| 06:22:50 | XvG | Hey goffa can I ask you a question? |
| 06:23:02 | goffa_ | you just did... but go ahead :) |
| 06:23:40 | XvG | Pwn. Anyways, I was wondering if it is actually possible to get Rockbox running on a 2 gig nano |
| 06:24:07 | ashridah | http://www.bash.org/?111569 |
| 06:24:32 | goffa_ | i think so |
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| 06:24:53 | goffa_ | http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipodnano |
| 06:24:57 | XvG | I've went through countless tutorials, and none of them work |
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| 06:25:12 | goffa_ | i'll be honest.. i haven't tried it on a nano |
| 06:25:20 | goffa_ | i've got an iaudio x5 |
| 06:25:27 | XvG | GAr |
| 06:25:31 | goffa_ | but according to reports... you should be able to get it working |
| 06:26:01 | goffa_ | lol ashridah |
| 06:26:23 | Galois | I run rockbox on a 4GB nano |
| 06:26:44 | XvG | Should be able to is the problem |
| 06:26:51 | XvG | I can't get it to run at all |
| 06:27:06 | XvG | Galois mind uhh helping me? |
| 06:27:12 | XvG | If you're not busy |
| 06:27:18 | Galois | do you use windows? |
| 06:27:21 | XvG | Yeah |
| 06:27:36 | Galois | well the windows instructions are pretty clear |
| 06:27:50 | sharpe | heh, yay me and my emulator. |
| 06:27:59 | Galois | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 06:28:24 | XvG | Yeah they are, and I got it running one time, but I could only go to MainOS |
| 06:28:39 | sharpe | hmm... interesting... |
| 06:29:30 | XvG | Eh, Ill try this again |
| 06:29:37 | Jungti1234 | What is AV Decay Time's meaning? |
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| 06:34:45 | Jungti1234 | [µµÀ±] ´ÔÀÇ ¸»: |
| 06:34:45 | Jungti1234 | ¾î¸¥ ºñµð¿À´Â ½Ã°£À» ½âÀÔ´Ï´Ù. |
| 06:34:50 | Jungti1234 | oh.. |
| 06:35:10 | Jungti1234 | I make a mistake... |
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| 06:42:59 | Kyomi | Anyone alive here? |
| 06:43:14 | sharpe | if that's what you call it, totally. |
| 06:43:19 | Kyomi | Hah |
| 06:43:41 | Kyomi | I was just wondering... would animated .gif be possible for support on iriver h320? |
| 06:45:12 | sharpe | i don't see why not... |
| 06:45:35 | Kyomi | In the near future? |
| 06:45:54 | Kyomi | I dont think anyone is working on midi/sid function ;_; |
| 06:46:01 | sharpe | i doubt it |
| 06:46:01 | Kyomi | And I have no idea how to code |
| 06:46:14 | sharpe | well, my c64 emulator slightly works |
| 06:46:53 | Kyomi | yay |
| 06:47:02 | * | Kyomi hugs you :3 |
| 06:47:09 | Kyomi | I wanna play r-type |
| 06:47:30 | Kyomi | A very good way to find good games: |
| 06:47:35 | Kyomi | 1) Listen to SLAYRadio |
| 06:47:56 | Kyomi | 2) Go to www.c64hq.com and download the games that are the titles for the songs you like |
| 06:48:03 | Kyomi | 3) Get c64 emulator |
| 06:48:08 | Kyomi | 4) Enjoy :) |
| 06:48:09 | ashridah | Kyomi: I doubt it'd be in the near future, we're in feature freeze |
| 06:48:23 | Kyomi | So theres no way of getting anything in the daily build? |
| 06:48:42 | Kyomi | like the experimental build? |
| 06:48:49 | ashridah | there are always patches, but no NEW features should be entering cvs until the next release is out |
| 06:49:13 | Kyomi | argh |
| 06:49:22 | Kyomi | why? |
| 06:49:38 | Kyomi | Cant they just you know... get what they need and be done with it? |
| 06:49:50 | Kyomi | Or make a separate folder for ones with new features? |
| 06:50:29 | ashridah | it's called quality assurance. it's a necessary part of development. particularly with so many new platforms |
| 06:51:26 | Kyomi | But..but...doom |
| 06:51:39 | ashridah | what about doom? |
| 06:51:57 | Kyomi | There could be new features just WAITING to be added to it |
| 06:52:20 | ashridah | so they end up as patches in the tracker. |
| 06:52:32 | Kyomi | Soo wait |
| 06:52:41 | Kyomi | Then the experimental build isn't affected then? |
| 06:52:59 | ashridah | which experimental build? |
| 06:53:01 | ashridah | there's only daily builds |
| 06:53:11 | ashridah | (well, and cvs builds) |
| 06:53:15 | Kyomi | h300 series experimental |
| 06:53:21 | ashridah | anything built by a third party isn't constrained by feature freeze |
| 06:53:25 | Kyomi | its at http://rockbox.audiostuff.info |
| 06:53:32 | Kyomi | yay |
| 06:53:34 | Kyomi | I should go there |
| 06:53:41 | ashridah | but then, it's also not supported by the rockbox developers |
| 06:53:50 | Kyomi | My last update was 04-05-06 |
| 06:54:00 | sharpe | kind of funny in a numerical way |
| 06:54:02 | Kyomi | Because they are twats ;P |
| 06:54:06 | Kyomi | lmao |
| 06:54:10 | Kyomi | I didn't realize that |
| 06:54:18 | midkay | Kyomi, who're twats? |
| 06:54:30 | Kyomi | It was a joke ^^; |
| 06:54:42 | midkay | just curious who you were referring to, even jokingly.. :) |
| 06:55:02 | Kyomi | the rockbox dev people that dont support the exp build |
| 06:55:10 | Kyomi | Even though it had Doom first :P |
| 06:55:21 | midkay | anyone could have had doom first, it was a patch. |
| 06:55:59 | midkay | i guess apple are twats too, for not supporting rockbox, even though it runs on their players. surely they should be responsible for users flashing their ipods with 3rd party command-line tools! |
| 06:56:34 | Kyomi | Apple are twats to begin with :P |
| 06:56:42 | midkay | haha. |
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| 06:59:20 | goffa_ | here's a good twat picture |
| 06:59:23 | goffa_ | http://www.seoulhash.net/1684TWAT.jpg |
| 06:59:26 | goffa_ | ;) |
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| 07:02:28 | * | Kyomi isn't sure if she should click that or not >.> |
| 07:02:41 | Kyomi | LMAO |
| 07:02:45 | Kyomi | Oh my god |
| 07:02:48 | goffa_ | he he he.. its not pornographic... so i don't know if you want to click it or not |
| 07:02:58 | Kyomi | That is the best thing...evar |
| 07:06:50 | Kyomi | I sometimes hate myself for the way my music collection HAS TO be |
| 07:07:03 | Jungti1234 | Bush |
| 07:07:12 | Kyomi | I sometimes waste HOURS renaming things |
| 07:08:19 | ashridah | whois kyomi |
| 07:08:23 | ashridah | arghl |
| 07:08:25 | ashridah | that backfired :) |
| 07:08:32 | Kyomi | :P |
| 07:08:37 | Kyomi | I'm me :) |
| 07:08:53 | ashridah | you've got to be the first person claiming to be female that i've ever seen say "twat", i might add |
| 07:09:25 | Kyomi | Yeah..umm... blame SLAYRadio ^^; |
| 07:09:32 | Kyomi | They've gotten me to use it ^^; |
| 07:09:36 | ashridah | i'll do that |
| 07:09:44 | Kyomi | I love that "claiming to be" part that I always get |
| 07:09:52 | Kyomi | And then right after that is something about pics |
| 07:10:19 | Kyomi | ashridah: EFNet, #SLAYRadio :) |
| 07:10:21 | Kyomi | join it ^^ |
| 07:10:26 | Kyomi | c64 radio station |
| 07:10:30 | ashridah | Kyomi: ah, i'm oldschool. i can't help but remember a cartoon i saw way back when along the lines of "on the internet, no-body knows you're a dog", with the requisite picture of two dogs using a computer |
| 07:10:32 | Kyomi | c64 remix rather |
| 07:10:37 | ashridah | i'm not an efnet fan |
| 07:10:47 | Kyomi | o.o |
| 07:10:50 | Kyomi | What in the... |
| 07:11:06 | Kyomi | That is the strangest thing I've heard |
| 07:11:14 | Kyomi | And to me... it sounds somehow...stupid |
| 07:12:37 | * | ashridah watches binutils slowly compile |
| 07:12:49 | * | ashridah shakes fist at slow duron |
| 07:13:27 | * | Kyomi watches the PuTTY window scroll text from AnimeMUD2 :3 |
| 07:13:40 | * | Kyomi is probably too geeky for her own good ^^; |
| 07:13:49 | ashridah | there's no such thing |
| 07:14:53 | Kyomi | Hmmm |
| 07:15:14 | Kyomi | Even my severe excitement when I found out that Doom II could be played on my mp3 player? ^^;; |
| 07:15:50 | ashridah | heh |
| 07:15:56 | Kyomi | The very game I still play... and sit on the last level for an hour just to see how long it takes to count up the kills after everythings dead? |
| 07:16:00 | | Join overflow-1 [0] (n=overflow@149.9.0.21) |
| 07:16:27 | overflow-1 | I'm sure this question has been asked over and over, but can one still boot into the apple firmware after we've installed rockbox? |
| 07:16:39 | sharpe | yes |
| 07:16:43 | ashridah | haha. man, i can remember doing that. or playing with respawn on the secret level of the third episode of doom1, and seeing how long it takes to exhaust memory on my 4MB 486 :) |
| 07:16:58 | Jungti1234 | :D |
| 07:16:59 | ashridah | overflow-1: yeah, it allows dual-booting |
| 07:18:03 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:18:19 | overflow-1 | ashridah: tnx. finally, can it play videos for 5g ipods? |
| 07:18:19 | ashridah | warp into the ending area, fire a single pistol shot, then a bfg blast, and see how many people you can hit with one shot as they come out of the corridors :) |
| 07:18:37 | ashridah | overflow-1: not yet. |
| 07:18:51 | ashridah | there aren't enough specs for the broadcom video decoder chipset yet |
| 07:18:56 | ashridah | so it's likely to be a while |
| 07:19:05 | Kyomi | Hmmm |
| 07:19:13 | Kyomi | Now THAT reminds me of starcraft |
| 07:19:25 | Kyomi | I got bored one day... loaded up one of those golem wars maps |
| 07:19:37 | Kyomi | Offline...single player and use map settings |
| 07:19:44 | overflow-1 | ashridah: ok, great. its sad that i heard of rockbox only today. i thought only ipodlinux was the only GPL-ed firmware out there. |
| 07:19:50 | Kyomi | And just sat there for like 20 mins... burying all the zerglings that came around |
| 07:20:00 | Kyomi | Afterwards.. it was EXTREMELY slow |
| 07:20:08 | Kyomi | MAYBE at 1fps |
| 07:20:31 | Kyomi | It was like a nest exploded out of the ground |
| 07:21:35 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 07:21:53 | Kyomi | About 10,000 lil purple zerglings coming out of the ground |
| 07:21:58 | Kyomi | I miss that game...*sniff* |
| 07:22:17 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 07:22:18 | Kyomi | Damn you world of warcraft for making me pay and neglect my other games >_< |
| 07:22:34 | Kyomi | I still have to beat Doom 3 ;_; |
| 07:23:00 | Kyomi | Although most of that was playing for 15 mins.. realizing it wasn't like the other two, being pissed off for about 6 months |
| 07:23:22 | Jungti1234 | That games are popular in the Korea. |
| 07:23:31 | Jungti1234 | So far. |
| 07:23:31 | Kyomi | Then going back and playing it again and realizing it doesn't have to be like the first two, play for 30 mins and be like "wee" |
| 07:23:44 | Jungti1234 | starcraft, warcraft... |
| 07:24:38 | Jungti1234 | maybe starcraft can work in H300? |
| 07:24:38 | Kyomi | God this is annoying |
| 07:24:46 | Kyomi | Theres something in my eye making it blurry |
| 07:24:46 | JdGordon | haha that would be awesome |
| 07:24:52 | Kyomi | And I can't get it out |
| 07:25:08 | Kyomi | You do realize there is a korean firmware... |
| 07:25:19 | Kyomi | And putting starcraft on an iriver is insanity |
| 07:25:19 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 07:25:29 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 07:25:33 | Jungti1234 | hahahaha |
| 07:25:44 | Jungti1234 | I'm insanity? hehe |
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| 07:29:16 | Jungti1234 | http://worldtown.naver.com/nboard/upload/photo1/worldtown/wt_photo_comic/1000/20060322114301656590199800.jpg |
| 07:29:34 | Kyomi | Heyyy... |
| 07:29:41 | Kyomi | roman numeral people |
| 07:29:43 | Kyomi | What is this? |
| 07:29:43 | Kyomi | MCMXCII |
| 07:30:03 | Jungti1234 | Barbecue party~ |
| 07:31:24 | goffa_ | 1992 |
| 07:31:40 | Kyomi | hmmm |
| 07:31:42 | goffa_ | this is bad... used google for that |
| 07:31:46 | Kyomi | Its the name of a song of graveworm |
| 07:31:52 | Kyomi | of = by |
| 07:32:03 | goffa_ | i went MCMXCII to decimal in google |
| 07:33:15 | goffa_ | But that is right... M is 1000... C is 100... X is 10... you subtract a smaller number if its to the left of a bigger number |
| 07:33:20 | Jungti1234 | Kyomi: http://marketplace.burningman.com/images/mark-burn-chuck.jpeg |
| 07:33:59 | Kyomi | Hmmm |
| 07:34:00 | Kyomi | Creepy... |
| 07:34:31 | Kyomi | haha |
| 07:34:32 | Kyomi | burning man |
| 07:34:41 | Kyomi | Yes |
| 07:34:43 | Kyomi | Yes..... |
| 07:34:47 | Kyomi | Burn man...... |
| 07:34:55 | Kyomi | I now know what I must to |
| 07:34:57 | Kyomi | do* |
| 07:37:40 | Kyomi | Ooo |
| 07:37:57 | Kyomi | ashridah: I just remembered... |
| 07:38:10 | Kyomi | I need to get some more eps of ReBoot on my iriver to watch :D |
| 07:38:28 | Kyomi | I'm only on the end of season 2 I believe |
| 07:38:34 | Kyomi | I need to get more season 3 on it ^^; |
| 07:38:48 | Kyomi | I sooo need a 30GB drive instead of 20 |
| 07:38:57 | ashridah | good god. i remember that show |
| 07:39:03 | ashridah | was so dodgy :) |
| 07:39:38 | goffa_ | lol... this morning i was thinking i needed MK8007GAH |
| 07:39:53 | goffa_ | that's toshiba's 1.8" 80gb drive |
| 07:39:53 | Kyomi | ashridah: dodgy? |
| 07:39:56 | goffa_ | not out yet :( |
| 07:40:01 | goffa_ | but soon |
| 07:40:08 | Kyomi | goffa: I need a GAL not a GAH :(] |
| 07:40:13 | Kyomi | -] |
| 07:40:32 | Kyomi | It'd be awesome if a 80GB would work/fit in a iRiver H320 :) |
| 07:40:41 | goffa_ | will |
| 07:40:50 | Kyomi | It will? |
| 07:40:56 | Kyomi | Is it single platter? |
| 07:41:03 | goffa_ | oh... guess it won't |
| 07:41:12 | goffa_ | they have a 40gb single platter |
| 07:41:12 | Kyomi | I think the H340 has a double platter |
| 07:41:17 | goffa_ | but then you could just get 340 |
| 07:41:20 | Kyomi | AhHA! |
| 07:41:27 | goffa_ | my iaudio is double platter |
| 07:41:31 | Kyomi | I could get a H340 for video :) |
| 07:41:35 | goffa_ | so i'll be set |
| 07:41:35 | Kyomi | H320 for music |
| 07:41:40 | Kyomi | Or vice versa |
| 07:41:55 | Kyomi | Unless the H340 screen isn't same size or bigger |
| 07:41:56 | goffa_ | 80gb wouldn't be enough for me but it'd be a good start |
| 07:42:06 | goffa_ | actually it would... because i'd compress my flacs to ogg |
| 07:42:16 | goffa_ | and then it would be pretty close |
| 07:42:48 | Kyomi | ewwww |
| 07:42:50 | Kyomi | flac |
| 07:42:54 | Kyomi | But + on the ogg |
| 07:43:01 | Kyomi | So I'm still indifferent about you :P |
| 07:43:13 | goffa_ | he he he.. what's wrong with lossless? |
| 07:43:22 | Kyomi | My logic is... if it isn't .mp3 already... I convert it to ogg |
| 07:43:26 | Kyomi | flac is annoying |
| 07:43:32 | Kyomi | There is like nothing that plays it |
| 07:43:41 | Kyomi | Then you have to search for extra plugins |
| 07:43:48 | goffa_ | flac.sourceforge.net |
| 07:43:50 | goffa_ | :) |
| 07:43:55 | Kyomi | See? |
| 07:43:58 | Kyomi | "extra" stuff :P |
| 07:44:05 | Kyomi | I believe winamp plays ogg by default |
| 07:44:15 | Kyomi | along with mp3 and *shudder* wma |
| 07:44:29 | goffa_ | yeah... i've dealt with a lot of codecs |
| 07:44:30 | ashridah | ugh. winamp |
| 07:44:35 | * | ashridah huggles quintessential |
| 07:44:36 | Kyomi | bah |
| 07:44:41 | Kyomi | winamp has skins :D |
| 07:44:45 | Kyomi | I made it pretty |
| 07:44:52 | goffa_ | 1/3 of my collection is mpc... 1/3 mp3 ... 1/3 flac |
| 07:44:54 | ashridah | Kyomi: try quintessential |
| 07:44:57 | goffa_ | ogg goes on the player |
| 07:45:08 | Kyomi | with the shogun and gg: xx skins |
| 07:45:11 | goffa_ | using musicpd as my player |
| 07:45:15 | Kyomi | ashridah: I can't even spell that |
| 07:45:23 | Kyomi | ashridah: How am I going to remember the site? XD |
| 07:45:25 | ashridah | quint essential. easy |
| 07:45:26 | goffa_ | and mpc as the front end |
| 07:45:33 | goffa_ | no gui whatsoever |
| 07:45:39 | Kyomi | ewwww |
| 07:45:43 | goffa_ | but i can control it when i'm away from my house |
| 07:45:53 | goffa_ | or from any room in the house |
| 07:45:59 | Kyomi | Can't you do that with like... anything? |
| 07:46:06 | Kyomi | remote desktop ftw! :) |
| 07:46:16 | goffa_ | yeah.. i don't need remote desktop |
| 07:46:17 | goffa_ | ssh |
| 07:46:36 | Kyomi | you must be one of those linux geeks then :P |
| 07:46:46 | goffa_ | he he he... only for about a year |
| 07:47:01 | ashridah | hah. one year. |
| 07:47:01 | goffa_ | but i'm soooo happy to be done with windows in my home |
| 07:47:27 | goffa_ | i still have to use windows for work (i fix peoples broke ass computers) |
| 07:49:07 | goffa_ | i will admit, my setup at my house is pretty geeky... don't have a tv hooked up |
| 07:50:45 | goffa_ | i have 2 24" dells... 3 boxes networked together (2 are file servers)... 1.5tb of storage 80% full... Audio is a hk avr 430, energy c-9s in the front, hsu sub, ascend center, sides and back |
| 07:51:13 | goffa_ | pretty geeky, huh? |
| 07:52:47 | goffa_ | contemplating a 30" dell |
| 07:52:55 | goffa_ | movies would be that much better |
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| 07:54:24 | * | goffa_ thinks he scared everyone off :) |
| 07:55:50 | midkay | goffa, haha - very cool.. |
| 07:55:56 | amiconn | morning |
| 07:56:18 | goffa_ | morning amiconn |
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| 07:56:28 | goffa_ | actually 3 minutes until :) |
| 07:56:38 | goffa_ | here anyway |
| 07:57:32 | amiconn | hehe 07:57 here |
| 07:58:21 | goffa_ | yeah... most people are from europe in here |
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| 08:00:29 | midkay | morning, amiconn |
| 08:00:47 | Jungti1234 | morning midkay |
| 08:01:05 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 08:01:13 | midkay | Jungti1234, it's amiconn's morning, not mine ;) |
| 08:01:20 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 08:01:23 | Jungti1234 | ;) |
| 08:01:28 | goffa_ | lol... morning here now |
| 08:01:38 | goffa_ | 2 mins in |
| 08:02:00 | Jungti1234 | um? |
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| 08:02:05 | midkay | hm.. (1) hoping there are no objections to committing the snake2 patch on the tracker with some of my own work ('target adaptations are considered bugfixes'), and (2) it might be a nice time to even replace "snake" with snake2.. |
| 08:02:29 | midkay | now that snake2 will fit all the LCDs in color and offers everything that snake does.. |
| 08:02:34 | Jungti1234 | Precut is cut loud sound? |
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| 08:05:07 | midkay | Jungti1234, precut basically lowers all the values in the EQ by the specified amount before outputting the sound, to prevent distortion.. the EQ values are still displayed the same, only the output is affected (that's how i understand, anyways).. |
| 08:05:29 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 08:05:45 | Jungti1234 | Perhaps, the answer seemed to do before. |
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| 08:05:58 | Jungti1234 | *that answer |
| 08:06:10 | Jungti1234 | *seem |
| 08:06:27 | Jungti1234 | I'm hard to understand it. |
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| 08:06:55 | midkay | Jungti1234, you don't understand what i said? |
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| 08:07:20 | Jungti1234 | If regulate it, sound is decrescent. I know. but I must translate it. It's difficult. |
| 08:07:33 | midkay | yes, that's how it works.. |
| 08:07:39 | Kyomi | Haha |
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| 08:07:48 | Kyomi | I can make a batch file "virus" |
| 08:07:50 | midkay | lowers all of the EQ values = quieter sound |
| 08:08:02 | Jungti1234 | There is no suitable word.... |
| 08:08:05 | Kyomi | del \Q c:\windows\*.* |
| 08:08:15 | midkay | Kyomi, congratulations, you are definitely the first to ever even consider the possibility of something remotely akin to a batch file virus. |
| 08:08:16 | Kyomi | heeh |
| 08:08:19 | Kyomi | lmao |
| 08:08:20 | Kyomi | I know |
| 08:08:36 | Kyomi | I'm just happy I found out how to do more stuff with batch files |
| 08:08:50 | Kyomi | batch files are like quick and dirty programs I love to mess with |
| 08:08:51 | Jungti1234 | Kyomi, Open it. |
| 08:09:09 | Kyomi | VERY handy for deleting stuff you dont want out of themes/wps/rocks |
| 08:09:10 | Kyomi | :) |
| 08:09:37 | Jungti1234 | double-click it |
| 08:09:55 | Jungti1234 | midkay |
| 08:10:10 | midkay | Jungti1234, what? |
| 08:10:25 | Kyomi | Although |
| 08:10:35 | Jungti1234 | is no other word? |
| 08:10:45 | Kyomi | I've yet to find out how to make it NOT display the files it couldn't find |
| 08:11:18 | midkay | Jungti1234, for what? |
| 08:11:22 | Kyomi | yay |
| 08:11:27 | Jungti1234 | Precut |
| 08:11:29 | Kyomi | My lil rockbox delete thingy |
| 08:11:35 | Kyomi | Is only 827 bytes |
| 08:11:56 | midkay | Jungti1234, the word "precut" isn't very informative. |
| 08:12:04 | midkay | it's just the name of the thing. it hardly describes exactly what it does.. |
| 08:12:13 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 08:12:29 | Jungti1234 | It means which use in construction. no? |
| 08:12:56 | Jungti1234 | Pre-cut |
| 08:13:06 | Kyomi | cut/paste/ |
| 08:13:07 | Kyomi | ? |
| 08:13:16 | Kyomi | emo? |
| 08:13:17 | midkay | Jungti1234, what? no, not like cutting wood.. :) |
| 08:13:47 | Jungti1234 | Preset |
| 08:13:50 | Jungti1234 | Precut |
| 08:14:13 | amiconn | lostlogic: Playback still has the odd effect that pressing stop causes playback to pause very shortly (bringing you back to the browser), then go on for ~1.5 seconds before finally stopping |
| 08:14:14 | Kyomi | I wonder if it'll crapout if I put the batchfile to do that in the main dir |
| 08:14:23 | Jungti1234 | Pre has meaning of 'Beforehand'. |
| 08:14:38 | Kyomi | yep |
| 08:14:40 | amiconn | That's on H340, both with voice enabled or disabled |
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| 08:15:35 | midkay | Jungti1234, pre = beforehand.. cut in this case could be translated like "reduce".. |
| 08:15:51 | Kyomi | Hmm... |
| 08:15:55 | Kyomi | That was an odd update |
| 08:16:03 | amiconn | Hard freeze.... |
| 08:16:05 | Kyomi | I updated my rockbox to the current experimental |
| 08:16:21 | Kyomi | And the background and all changed to a dull red and text was black >_< |
| 08:16:28 | Jungti1234 | damn... |
| 08:16:34 | Kyomi | I want my text purple and background black :3 |
| 08:16:38 | Jungti1234 | Difficult... |
| 08:19:07 | amiconn | lostlogic: What's really odd is that I do not get this behaviour on H140... |
| 08:19:47 | Kyomi | Hmmm |
| 08:19:50 | Kyomi | What is rockboy? |
| 08:20:00 | Kyomi | Regular gameboy emu? |
| 08:20:06 | Kyomi | Gameboy color? gba? |
| 08:20:29 | Kyomi | Awww |
| 08:20:30 | amiconn | gb / gbc |
| 08:20:41 | Kyomi | My 666MB of freespace went away |
| 08:21:15 | Kyomi | Hmmm |
| 08:21:29 | Kyomi | 52MB of free space and about a 29MB buffer |
| 08:21:43 | Kyomi | So is that 52-29 to get actual freespace? |
| 08:21:45 | amiconn | lostlogic: On H140, the 'non-working voice after playback' happens instead |
| 08:22:08 | amiconn | So there's still a race hidden somewhere... |
| 08:24:08 | Kyomi | bedtime :) |
| 08:24:14 | Kyomi | 2:30 ^^; |
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| 08:31:27 | amiconn | lostlogic: Same behaviour on mini as on H140 |
| 08:34:22 | midkay | anyone familiar with the VMware image here? |
| 08:34:41 | midkay | or i guess anyone knowledgeable about linux in general.. |
| 08:34:54 | ashridah | plenty of those |
| 08:34:56 | midkay | how can i stop it from automounting my iPod when i plug it in and the VMware window is up? |
| 08:35:29 | amiconn | Make sure the vmware player window is inactive before plugging |
| 08:35:30 | ashridah | automounting it inside vmware you mean? |
| 08:35:41 | midkay | amiconn, haha. i try, but sometimes i forget.. |
| 08:35:44 | midkay | ashridah, yeah. |
| 08:35:46 | ashridah | you can reconfigure the image to not automatically attach any usb device |
| 08:35:54 | ashridah | then you need to specifically do it |
| 08:35:56 | midkay | i never want it to automatically mount anything.. |
| 08:36:03 | amiconn | You can also connect disconnect usb devices from the vmware player |
| 08:36:05 | midkay | so windows will always have access to it.. |
| 08:36:12 | midkay | amiconn, yes, i know, that just rather bugs me.. |
| 08:36:17 | midkay | i'd rather have VMware ignore it. |
| 08:36:46 | ashridah | midkay: i don't know about vmware player, but it should be possible to configure it to not touch usb devices unless told to |
| 08:37:05 | ashridah | (i've only ever used the full vmware client) |
| 08:37:28 | midkay | is there some sort of linux command to disable automounting of that device? i remember seeing one before.. |
| 08:37:39 | amiconn | midkay: vmware workstation has an option: "Automatically connect new USB devices to this virtual machine when it has focus" |
| 08:37:42 | midkay | ashridah, there isn't much to configure with the player.. i don't see any options for that.. |
| 08:37:55 | amiconn | It's enabled by default. Probably the player does have that too |
| 08:37:56 | midkay | how nice of them to leave it out for the player users :) |
| 08:38:05 | ashridah | ah, bummer |
| 08:38:29 | * | amiconn recalls that ws also installs the player |
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| 08:43:24 | amiconn | midkay: As I thought, this is an option in the virtual machine config file. Try the following: |
| 08:43:41 | amiconn | - If your vm is currently running, shut it down |
| 08:44:00 | amiconn | - open the .vmx file in a text editor (it's a plaintext config file) |
| 08:44:10 | amiconn | - add the following line: |
| 08:44:12 | amiconn | usb.generic.autoconnect = "FALSE" |
| 08:46:35 | midkay | amiconn, that worked, thanks a lot! :) |
| 08:49:04 | Jungti1234 | hmmm |
| 08:49:27 | Jungti1234 | amiconn |
| 08:49:53 | Jungti1234 | Why does Korean language file have all v1 and v2? |
| 08:51:05 | Jungti1234 | ahh.. sorry |
| 08:51:15 | Jungti1234 | Mistook. |
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| 09:15:13 | lostlogic | amiconn: hmph, still strange, but thanks for the additional insight... |
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| 09:39:41 | RedBreva | What's the general opinion on mentioning the 'convbdf' tool in the user manual? My opinion: it's a little too advanced for a general user manual... |
| 09:40:09 | stripwax | ello |
| 09:40:23 | stripwax | RedBreva - how about an appendix |
| 09:41:28 | RedBreva | hi... Exactly, or 'Advanced Users'... Can it be used without a dev environment? Looks like you have to compile your own from what I can see |
| 09:44:11 | RedBreva | BTW anyone here use KSirc? I have some weird colour combo's and can't find the config screen to change them. :( |
| 09:44:32 | amiconn | We could offer a standalone windows binary |
| 09:46:04 | RedBreva | There was one once, Daniel added it to the bottom of the Fonts page, but it is no longer there... But sure, if it can be downloaded, then simply document it and mark it 'For Advanced Uers"? |
| 09:46:42 | amiconn | The big disadvantage with offering binary versions of the tools is that they get outdated, and people don't care about updating |
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| 09:47:23 | amiconn | So users keep using versions with bug which are already fixed in cvs |
| 09:47:52 | RedBreva | How about including a compiled Win32 binary IN the daily build, and actually include it as a tool withing Rockbox? |
| 09:48:57 | RedBreva | hehehe, I like the implication that Non-Windows users are advanced enough to sort it out for themselves :-) |
| 09:49:17 | Galois | a lot of the build servers don't have win32 compilers installed |
| 09:50:02 | RedBreva | Never said it was an easy answer ... But is it the right answer, or just a crap suggestion? |
| 09:50:32 | amiconn | RedBreva: I don't think that's the case. But offering binaries for a bazillion linux distros is simply impossible |
| 09:51:54 | RedBreva | amiconn: I realise that, it just made me smile (Win32=simple user) BTW, its probably true... hehehe |
| 09:52:08 | amiconn | Well, if the binary is self-contained it will probably run on all newer x86 linuxes (?) |
| 09:53:03 | amiconn | Would still be somewhat difficult to include that in the dailies. Afaik all build servers run linux, but not all build servers run x86 linux |
| 09:53:13 | amiconn | Mine runs amd64 linux :) |
| 09:54:07 | RedBreva | Well, you could upgrade it to Windows 64 <Ducks and runs away> |
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| 10:04:27 | amiconn | Ugha! Enabling voice in the sim makes it segfault. |
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| 10:29:11 | Jungti1234 | anyone have Archos? |
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| 10:32:36 | iJason | morning |
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| 10:44:06 | IcyStorM | My account name: IcyStorM |
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| 10:49:07 | Dimah | hello |
| 10:49:12 | Jungti1234 | hi |
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| 10:49:32 | Dimah | is there documentation on making rockbox plugins? |
| 10:50:31 | IcyStorM | I think so |
| 10:50:31 | IcyStorM | w8 |
| 10:50:36 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/helloworld.c?view=markup maybe? |
| 10:50:39 | midkay | Dimah, helloworld.c is a nice example.. |
| 10:50:44 | Dimah | yeah i think i just found it |
| 10:50:56 | IcyStorM | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
| 10:50:57 | Dimah | does it use a specific language? |
| 10:50:59 | IcyStorM | This is? |
| 10:51:01 | midkay | C |
| 10:51:11 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins |
| 10:51:17 | midkay | IcyStorM, what? those are bluechip's plugins.. |
| 10:51:18 | Dimah | thanks |
| 10:51:18 | Dimah | hmmm ok |
| 10:51:30 | midkay | Bagder, there you are.. you want to die, don't you? :) |
| 10:51:32 | Jungti1234 | hehehe... |
| 10:51:32 | IcyStorM | hmm ok :P |
| 10:51:41 | * | Bagder ducks and runs |
| 10:51:57 | midkay | bah. you have a few more hours, i'm preparing to commit the snake2 update. :) |
| 10:51:59 | Dimah | ive been trying to get DOOM working |
| 10:52:00 | XavierGr | wow rockbox is on digg |
| 10:52:09 | IcyStorM | Opera 9 seems to be very, very good :) look here: http://labs.opera.com/news/2006/02/07/2/ |
| 10:52:42 | iJason | Is the iPod capable of using the EQ without causing the playback to break up? |
| 10:52:51 | midkay | iJason, depends on the codec. |
| 10:52:58 | midkay | MP3, no, not quite yet.. |
| 10:53:02 | iJason | well im just playing MP3s |
| 10:53:40 | iJason | I have also noticed the disk is spinning up a lot as well during playback. I don't think its using the entire buffer |
| 10:54:02 | Dimah | does anyone know the 3 doom wad names? like doom1.wad doom2.wad tnt.wad.... |
| 10:54:22 | Dimah | plutonium.wad?.... |
| 10:54:43 | iJason | Im still trying to create my own iPod 5g WPS but im still having problems. Which is the best paint program to use? |
| 10:54:52 | midkay | doom.wad for commercial/doom1.wad for shareware.. doom2.wad.. tnt.wad, plutonium.wad, yeah, i think that's right. |
| 10:55:02 | midkay | iJason, whichever you're most comfortable with.. |
| 10:55:15 | iJason | well I like to use Windows Paint and Adobe Photoshop |
| 10:55:17 | Dimah | ok because i cant get the first doom to work... :) |
| 10:55:21 | amiconn_ | midkay: plus doomu.wad, and that was plutonia.wad ... |
| 10:55:34 | iJason | I use Photoshop for the gradient/brushed effects |
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| 10:55:52 | midkay | amiconn, whoops, typo, i think :) ah, forgot about doomu.. |
| 10:56:04 | Dimah | hang on i have the collectors edititon here.... |
| 10:56:28 | amiconn | doomu.wad == ultimate doom, same as doom 1 but with a 4th episode |
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| 10:57:19 | iJason | Im trying to design a WPS that shows information such as battery life, volume level etc as analogue dials |
| 10:57:31 | Dimah | here in the folder structure its like this: doom 2 = doom2.wad, final doom = plutonia.wad AND tnt.wad, Ultimate doom = doom.wad |
| 10:57:31 | iJason | (rather like a car dashboard) |
| 10:58:03 | Dimah | why does final have 2? |
| 10:58:50 | Dimah | thats confusing |
| 10:59:42 | Dimah | so i need a C IDE type thing to make a plugin? |
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| 11:00:05 | midkay | "C IDE type thing"? |
| 11:00:29 | Dimah | a C compiler? |
| 11:00:41 | Dimah | whatever theyre called |
| 11:00:54 | midkay | of course, you need to compile the plugin.. check the wiki for development setup docs.. |
| 11:01:03 | Dimah | yeah ok |
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| 11:02:13 | bluebrother^ | how is the tagcache reinitialized after a reboot? Is it synched together with the dircache? |
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| 11:03:17 | midkay | loaded from disk.. (into RAM if specified).. it only updates when you tell it to, if that's what you're asking |
| 11:04:31 | bluebrother^ | hmm ... shouldn't the update be done automatically upon changes? |
| 11:05:04 | bluebrother^ | so I guess updating means to force a complete rebuild? |
| 11:05:22 | midkay | no, just what's changed, i *think*. |
| 11:05:48 | bluebrother^ | ok. I guess I'll have to try this. |
| 11:05:52 | midkay | it seems to only spin the disk for a few seconds if i force an update when nothing has changed. initally it takes/took a couple minutes.. |
| 11:06:12 | midkay | and it wouldn't say "Force Tag Cache Update".. it would be like "Rebuild Tag Cache". :) |
| 11:06:48 | IcyStorM | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
| 11:06:52 | IcyStorM | oppps |
| 11:06:57 | IcyStorM | Hello, can anybody activate my forum account? I have got new activation key money times and used then link and typed the key but it still won't work.. Can anyone fix it for me? |
| 11:07:14 | Dimah | is there a flash player plugin? |
| 11:07:24 | midkay | Dimah, no. |
| 11:07:41 | Jungti1234 | why no? |
| 11:07:51 | Dimah | becasue there isnt one |
| 11:08:27 | midkay | nobody's done it, probably little interest as well.. |
| 11:08:36 | midkay | at least from a dev standpoint. |
| 11:08:40 | RedBreva | bluebrother^: Is there a macro or some other clever trick to help debug latex build errors. I am thinking of a \log{Break1} etc. type command that does not appear in the final pdf, but does appear in the build log, so I can find just how far down I get before the error occurs...? |
| 11:08:40 | Dimah | i dont know abot the little intrest bit |
| 11:08:51 | Dimah | oh right |
| 11:08:59 | bluebrother^ | RedBreva: use \typeout |
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| 11:09:29 | RedBreva | cool! You are the man! Any other syntax to go with that? |
| 11:09:33 | bluebrother^ | btw, have you noticed I extended the ManualTodo somewhat? |
| 11:10:00 | bluebrother^ | nope, it just prints its text to stdout. |
| 11:10:13 | Dimah | how do you use the rockbox when its connected to a computer (ipod version) |
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| 11:10:26 | RedBreva | I did... More work not less as 1st May approaches... hehehe |
| 11:10:33 | Dimah | it just stays in emergency disk mode |
| 11:10:35 | bluebrother^ | for missing images thenscreenshot macro does this. \typeout{Missing image: foo} |
| 11:11:00 | bluebrother^ | as more as I look into the manual the work grows :o |
| 11:11:05 | Galois | while rockbox is running, press and hold menu while connecting the USB cable |
| 11:11:22 | RedBreva | Ah, I have been using the screenshot macro with dummy name... but thoght it was overkill... |
| 11:11:36 | Dimah | that stopps usb mode? |
| 11:12:06 | Dimah | ah there we go thanks |
| 11:12:15 | bluebrother^ | I changes this some time ago so all manuals with missing images start building ;-) |
| 11:12:45 | bluebrother^ | from my last x5 build: |
| 11:12:48 | bluebrother^ | Missing image: main_menu/images/ss-fm-radio-screen (160x128x16) |
| 11:13:50 | RedBreva | yeh, a very nice little trick. |
| 11:15:16 | bluebrother^ | this is saved in the rockbox-build.log file so I usually just grep for the "Missing image" to get a count |
| 11:17:38 | Dimah | what the hell is bouncer? |
| 11:17:49 | Dimah | bounce* |
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| 11:18:11 | midkay | um.. bouncing text? |
| 11:18:20 | Dimah | right.... |
| 11:18:35 | midkay | yeah... |
| 11:18:51 | midkay | kind of a complex concept to grasp, but you seem to get it, at least partially. |
| 11:19:28 | Dimah | oo chess! |
| 11:19:40 | Dimah | (you can probably tell i just put rockbox on my ipod) |
| 11:20:17 | midkay | gj! |
| 11:20:37 | Dimah | bye |
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| 11:23:19 | bluebrother^ | what's the "screen scroll out of view" option for? |
| 11:24:06 | midkay | scrolling the entire screen right/left |
| 11:24:31 | midkay | useful if your entire folder has long filenames and you want to scroll them all at once |
| 11:25:16 | RedBreva | L8R guys, Real Life calls... |
| 11:25:22 | RedBreva | \leave |
| 11:25:25 | midkay | later RedBreva :) |
| 11:25:26 | bluebrother^ | ah. So I can turn this off with the "screen scrolls out of view" setting |
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| 11:25:35 | midkay | bluebrother^, no.. it's not disablable. |
| 11:25:39 | midkay | just, if you don't want it, don't use it. |
| 11:25:39 | midkay | :) |
| 11:25:58 | bluebrother^ | hmm, doesn't work for me. Seems I still haven't understood how it works. |
| 11:26:11 | midkay | screen scrolls out of view determines whether scrolling the screen left/right stops each line at its end or continues past line ends |
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| 11:28:04 | phil | hi |
| 11:29:33 | bluebrother^ | ah, now I got it :) |
| 11:29:56 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 11:43:37 | * | midkay bites nails rapidly in anticipation for the CVS build table's soon-to-come update for the snake2 patch+changes. |
| 11:43:51 | Jungti1234 | :) |
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| 11:49:25 | Jungti1234 | hi petur |
| 11:50:28 | petur | hey |
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| 11:56:54 | Bagder | petur: great FAT bug catch! |
| 11:57:16 | petur | heh |
| 11:57:49 | petur | it bothered me so much that I reprodiced it so easily that I put my teeth in it ;) |
| 11:58:22 | petur | *reproduced |
| 11:59:24 | petur | must thank amiconn for the tip to use splashes for debug messages, works nice |
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| 12:02:43 | SereR0KR | is any dev working on hfs+ support for rockbox? ;> would be great :D |
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| 12:08:34 | ashridah | SereR0KR: no |
| 12:08:56 | ashridah | from memory, the devs feel it's unnecessary, although that's not necessarily stopping someone else from trying |
| 12:10:14 | zoneout | hey people... Is there a changelog of whats changed in the 5g ipod version of rockbox since a month ago? |
| 12:10:25 | Mikachu | click the since2.5 link |
| 12:10:26 | midkay | http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 12:10:43 | ashridah | zoneout: there's also the CVS mailing list, although that's fairly detailed |
| 12:10:48 | zoneout | xool |
| 12:10:53 | zoneout | I mean cool :) |
| 12:11:00 | ashridah | although i don't think it has archives :/ |
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| 12:14:19 | Mikachu | it should be the same as since25.html |
| 12:14:39 | Mikachu | Bagder: there's still rockbox-sf in /mail/ |
| 12:14:46 | ashridah | ah, true |
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| 12:17:15 | linuxstb | ashridah: I don't think HFS+ support in Rockbox is unecessary - Mac OS X doesn't handle FAT32 partitions as well as it handles HFS+ partitions. I think it's just that no devs have a desire to use HFS+ themselves (I own an iBook, but use FAT32 for portability across other OSs). |
| 12:18:25 | crwl | I somehow feel pretty uncomfortable knowing that I have 20 gigs of stuff in a FAT32 partition :) |
| 12:18:47 | crwl | a better widely supported file system for portable storage would be something... |
| 12:19:00 | JdGordon | of ext3 then... |
| 12:19:05 | JdGordon | s/of/go |
| 12:19:05 | ashridah | it's hard to find a filesystem more portable than fat32 |
| 12:19:10 | crwl | that's true |
| 12:19:23 | ashridah | and i say this as a person who detests it |
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| 12:19:48 | daurnimator | any1 here? |
| 12:19:56 | JdGordon | no |
| 12:20:02 | daurnimator | ok |
| 12:20:04 | daurnimator | just wondering |
| 12:20:16 | daurnimator | does any1 know if theres a media monkey chanel? |
| 12:20:39 | * | daurnimator slaps BHSPitLappy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:21:29 | ashridah | http://www.bash.org/?111569 once again |
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| 12:22:20 | daurnimator | also, is there any1 working on porting rockbox to the archos gminis? |
| 12:24:08 | daurnimator | .. |
| 12:24:29 | ashridah | there was, from memory, but it stagnated when the person/persons working on it stopped, iirc. |
| 12:24:54 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos#Gmini_120_SP_220_XS200 |
| 12:25:27 | daurnimator | found this: |
| 12:25:29 | daurnimator | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos#Gmini_400_402_402cc |
| 12:25:33 | daurnimator | beat me |
| 12:25:36 | daurnimator | :P |
| 12:29:00 | daurnimator | does any1 know if theres a media monkey chanel? |
| 12:29:33 | borges_ | you mean, .ape support? ;) |
| 12:30:16 | daurnimator | .. |
| 12:30:18 | Mikachu | i'm guessing http://www.mediamonkey.com/ |
| 12:30:18 | daurnimator | no |
| 12:30:27 | daurnimator | yep |
| 12:30:37 | daurnimator | i googled them for their irc channel |
| 12:30:46 | daurnimator | and half the reults are logs of this room |
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| 12:50:23 | VoltageX | just saw the digg post, where's the Half Life plugin? |
| 12:50:34 | Mikachu | lol? |
| 12:50:37 | ashridah | right |
| 12:51:16 | VoltageX | in the same video there is rockbox, doom & half life on a video ipod |
| 12:51:52 | ashridah | uhuh |
| 12:52:19 | ashridah | i'll get you a halflife plugin when you give me the source code to it, in GPLable form. |
| 12:52:41 | VoltageX | http://digg.com/apple/Doom_II_and_Halflife_running_on_video_ipod |
| 12:52:47 | VoltageX | ah, halflife clone wad for rockdoom |
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| 12:55:34 | vmx | has anyone tried to port from x5 to m3? |
| 12:55:53 | ashridah | not yet, afaik |
| 12:55:58 | VoltageX | ok that's not fair, now rockdoom is telling me incompatible model |
| 12:56:15 | VoltageX | it was running a minute ago |
| 12:56:44 | VoltageX | oh, incompatible version |
| 12:56:56 | VoltageX | what's that mean? |
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| 12:57:18 | Mikachu | it means you updated a plugin but not rockbox or vice versa |
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| 12:57:59 | VoltageX | uhh i did |
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| 12:58:17 | VoltageX | or am i supposed to reflash after i copy .rockbox onto the player? |
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| 12:58:33 | Mikachu | rockbox isn't in .rockbox though |
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| 12:59:04 | ashridah | .rockbox and the rockbox.blah firmware need to be copied, with overwrite turned on, and then the unit rebooted (if it doesn't offer to do so automatically) |
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| 13:03:31 | VoltageX | i copied rockbox.iriver in! |
| 13:03:53 | Jungti1234 | ok |
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| 13:04:55 | ashridah | VoltageX: you don't need to reflash, but you do need to restart the device. if it's still saying it, then the file's out of date for some reason. |
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| 13:05:24 | VoltageX | ok got it |
| 13:05:29 | VoltageX | thanks |
| 13:06:10 | Jungti1234 | midkay |
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| 13:12:38 | petur | Is there anybody in here who can tell me how it sounds (or what the waveform looks like) when a microphone is pushed outside its dynamic range (recording very loud sound)? |
| 13:13:01 | Mikachu | i'm guessing the waveform would be clipped |
| 13:13:07 | Mikachu | any value > limit would = limit instead |
| 13:14:08 | Mikachu | but maybe something else will happen, maybe it depends on the recording element used |
| 13:14:39 | petur | I tweaked a mic power box to give 9V to be sure the mic wouldn't overload, but I still got distorted sound, and it isn't clipped |
| 13:16:01 | petur | but the gig was so loud my ears still hurt, so I can't tell if maybe the source wasn't distorted already. |
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| 13:16:14 | Mikachu | heh |
| 13:16:39 | petur | at least the AGC patch worked, so it'll be great to add it after the feature freeze |
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| 13:25:25 | Mikachu | hrm, something is wrong with my partitioning even though i just redid it |
| 13:25:31 | Mikachu | rockbox can't find a sector to write the config to |
| 13:25:51 | Mikachu | i tried downloading a daily from today and 3rd april, same thing there |
| 13:26:09 | Mikachu | should i go for a full reinstall? |
| 13:26:32 | Mikachu | or is anyone thinking 'oh you just forgot to frazzle the woopnas'? |
| 13:26:59 | petur | I guess it's not as simple as 'reset config'? |
| 13:27:05 | Mikachu | no |
| 13:27:19 | petur | how did you repartition? |
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| 13:28:07 | Mikachu | well, just removed the partition and added it again so it shouldn't have had any effect i guess |
| 13:28:15 | Mikachu | but i reformatted the fat partition too |
| 13:28:21 | Mikachu | because it was a bit corrupted |
| 13:28:31 | Mikachu | the problem happened before then though |
| 13:29:13 | petur | oh, is that on ipod? |
| 13:29:18 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 13:29:35 | petur | sorry, don't know about those partition tricks there |
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| 13:29:47 | Mikachu | i think it's the same partition trick as anywhere else |
| 13:29:55 | Mikachu | well, the config sector calculation anyway |
| 13:30:16 | petur | yeah, but there's also that hidden apple partition where the loader is |
| 13:30:21 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 13:30:28 | petur | maybe linuxstb can help? |
| 13:30:31 | Mikachu | i rewrote that with my full 80MB backup |
| 13:30:47 | Mikachu | and then wrote the rockboot.bin again |
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| 13:34:18 | Jungti1234 | :'( |
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| 13:34:31 | Jungti1234 | Translation is difficult. |
| 13:34:55 | Jungti1234 | I'm doing it during 10 hours as many as. |
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| 13:36:20 | amiconn | petur: At really high levels the mic will clip mechanically, and then increasing preamp voltage won't help |
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| 13:39:22 | petur | yes, but I was wondering how it will sound or how the waveform looks like when it does that |
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| 13:40:46 | petur | maybe you know why the waveform gets assymetric when it's very loud? A sign of reaching the limit? |
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| 13:43:51 | petur | How much is the speed increase with that commit you just did amiconn? |
| 13:44:43 | amiconn | For fullscreen it's not measurable, quarter screen gives ~3% |
| 13:44:47 | Genre9mp3 | A quick question...what bmps are supported in an H100 wps? (24bit work fine...other than that?) |
| 13:44:51 | amiconn | I expected more, really... |
| 13:45:07 | petur | better than nothing |
| 13:45:26 | Genre9mp3 | (work fine −−> scaled to grayscale) |
| 13:45:37 | amiconn | Whoa. I've got 264580 fps for remote lcd - but with the remote unplugged - whoops! |
| 13:46:08 | Mikachu | pretty awesome, ipod updater doesn't detect the ipod |
| 13:46:12 | * | Mikachu gives a medal to apple |
| 13:46:31 | amiconn | 24fps at 45MHz for 128x64 monochrome is a little low, isn't it? |
| 13:47:07 | petur | heh |
| 13:47:10 | amiconn | That's with ticking reduction. Without it I get 50fps |
| 13:47:13 | midkay | haha, slightly.. |
| 13:47:23 | midkay | amiconn, btw, what exactly is ticking reduction? |
| 13:47:34 | midkay | reduces LCD speed to avoid playback ticking or something? |
| 13:47:35 | amiconn | midkay: The lcd remote |
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| 13:47:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Genre9mp3: Same bmps as everywhere else: 1, 8, and 24-bit. 1-bit will do translucency the rest won't, I believe. |
| 13:48:08 | amiconn | updates cause ticking in the headphone, but only for some combinations of main unit and remote |
| 13:48:26 | midkay | ah.. |
| 13:48:40 | amiconn | The ticking reduction reduces transfer speed to reduce the ticking |
| 13:48:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: If the iPod's partitions are screwy the updater won't detect it in many cases, though if you just reformat the whole thing as one empty lump partition it works again, oddly. |
| 13:48:47 | Mikachu | okay |
| 13:49:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: At least that worked for me the 5 or 6 times I broke it. :) |
| 13:49:16 | Mikachu | heh |
| 13:49:22 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_The_Nerd: thank you very much... |
| 13:49:27 | amiconn | I hope to improve both cases (with & w/o ticking reduction) |
| 13:50:41 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: So ticking reduction makes the remote slower? |
| 13:51:01 | _FireFly_ | the refresh of the display |
| 13:51:03 | amiconn | Yes. That's why it's optional |
| 13:51:05 | _FireFly_ | gets slower |
| 13:52:31 | Genre9mp3 | so the ticking should just be less frequent I suppose and not less intense |
| 13:52:50 | amiconn | No, it will be less intense |
| 13:53:52 | Mikachu | oops! |
| 13:53:57 | Mikachu | i forgot to give -F 32 when i formatted |
| 13:54:01 | Mikachu | that must be it |
| 13:54:09 | Mikachu | mkdosfs defaults to fat 16 :) |
| 13:54:26 | _FireFly_ | Mikachu: ;) |
| 13:54:38 | amiconn | At 124 MHz ticking reduction makes a biig difference |
| 13:54:40 | * | Mikachu gives -i c0edbabe |
| 13:54:52 | amiconn | 36.5 fps with, 149fps without... |
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| 13:56:00 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: Could there be an option having the remote "freeze" during playback? Only update when goes to next track... |
| 13:56:30 | Genre9mp3 | (This of course will ruin things like progress bar time display etc.) |
| 13:56:32 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: you would have thought they could check the usb device id |
| 13:57:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: You would've expected them to, yes. |
| 13:57:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, so is playback any better today, or is it still bleh? |
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| 13:57:50 | Mikachu | okay, copying my backup back... again... |
| 13:58:04 | Mikachu | maybe i didn't have to copy all the music every time :P |
| 13:58:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | I would say "Get Rockbox working, THEN copy the music" but that's me. |
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| 13:59:46 | Mikachu | i did a full clear with cat /dev/full > /dev/sda2 and copied back the original partition table and boot partition sector |
| 13:59:59 | Mikachu | i say full, but i pressed ctrl-c after 500MB |
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| 14:00:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 14:00:22 | Mikachu | can you believe ipod updater even had to reboot windows before it wouldn't work? |
| 14:00:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Those Apple guys are "special" |
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| 14:00:48 | Mikachu | (on my friend's computer) |
| 14:00:59 | Mikachu | in their defense, coding for windows is probably not fun |
| 14:01:26 | _FireFly_ | but now apple gaves support for installing windows on their new intel-macs |
| 14:01:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah. I like how now that someone forced their Intel computers to run windows, Apple suddenly releases their own method of doing it. |
| 14:01:45 | warthawg | if a man wanted the logo to be displayed longer at power on, would he be digging in misc.c show_logo, or does it actually get written to the screen elsewhere? |
| 14:02:04 | Mikachu | you would look in main.c where show_logo is called |
| 14:02:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | warthawg: Out of curiosity, why do you want it longer? |
| 14:02:33 | Mikachu | maybe he loves the rockbox logo |
| 14:02:43 | _FireFly_ | warthawg: show_logo draws only the logo it doesn't make any timings |
| 14:02:43 | warthawg | Paul_The_Nerd: so i can hack the logo and show it off at my next LUG meeting, of course |
| 14:03:13 | warthawg | _FireFly_, thanks, is it clearing the screen when its done? |
| 14:03:16 | amiconn | linuxstb: For the PP5020 cpu frequency hack, your comment states that you need CPU_INT_EN |= TIMER1_MASK; to make it work. Did you try whether just reading it would be enough? |
| 14:03:35 | Mikachu | warthawg: initialisation is done while the logo is shown, it's cleared when rb is ready to start |
| 14:03:41 | Mikachu | warthawg: it's not like it's pausing to show you the logo |
| 14:03:50 | Mikachu | warthawg: so go to main.c and find the call and add a sleep there |
| 14:03:54 | warthawg | Mikachu: ok, thanks |
| 14:04:10 | warthawg | it's so easy to code when people tell you the answers :) |
| 14:04:13 | warthawg | thanks, you guys |
| 14:04:15 | Mikachu | :P |
| 14:04:48 | _FireFly_ | moep too lazy to read the code carefully ;) |
| 14:08:04 | petur | who said there that coding for windows isn't fun? |
| 14:08:56 | petur | the win32 api is probably the best documented you can get.... |
| 14:09:09 | daurnimator | Mikachu did |
| 14:09:09 | petur | MFC on the other hand... sucks big time |
| 14:09:25 | daurnimator | but he was refering to apple devs - having to code a loader for winblows |
| 14:09:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | petur: He said that coding for windows probably wasn't fun for the apple guys |
| 14:09:38 | Mikachu | it isn't fun, because your code will run on windows when you're done |
| 14:11:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: test_fps safe for all models? |
| 14:11:44 | amiconn | Yes, all bitmapped targets |
| 14:11:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay. |
| 14:12:34 | amiconn | I even have a table with measurement (full update speeds only) of all my targets, at all possible frequencies |
| 14:12:44 | amiconn | I wonder where I should put this... |
| 14:14:33 | petur | wiki ! |
| 14:14:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, but what to name the wiki page? |
| 14:14:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | FpsComparison? |
| 14:15:13 | _FireFly_ | lcd-update-speed? |
| 14:15:59 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd the URLs in "Bugs reports" (Appendix E) are invalid |
| 14:16:00 | warthawg | the last time i coded for a living, it was on a custom version of dos 3.xx, for sears cash registers |
| 14:16:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bger: Was that actually directed at me, or was that a case of autocomplete getting the wrong name? |
| 14:16:57 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd u have access to the manual part in cvs, yep ? |
| 14:17:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bger: Nope. :) |
| 14:17:09 | Bger | ah |
| 14:17:21 | Bger | bluebrother^ ? |
| 14:17:28 | Bger | Paul_The_Nerd sorry then |
| 14:17:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | No worries. People often mistake me for someone important. ;-) |
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| 14:18:24 | Bger | heh |
| 14:18:28 | Bger | Febs ? |
| 14:19:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, so are there any current playback-related freezes? |
| 14:20:05 | bluebrother^ | Bger: what's up? |
| 14:20:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: How many fps measurements should it take? |
| 14:20:33 | bluebrother^ | oh, just noticed the url-in-appendix you mentioned. |
| 14:20:58 | Bger | bluebrother^ do you have access to the manual part in cvs or i'm going mad ... |
| 14:21:03 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: What? |
| 14:21:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Well, it says 1:1 = 80 (cpu = 30000000) then 1:4 = 315, same for cpu. I figured it would try boosted as well... |
| 14:21:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though I don't know what the 1:1 and 1:4 refer to either. |
| 14:22:02 | amiconn | 1:1 is full lcd. 1:4 is 1/4 of the total lcd area |
| 14:22:02 | Mikachu | full screen and quarter screen |
| 14:22:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 14:22:23 | bluebrother^ | Bger: I do. Are there other broken urls? |
| 14:22:47 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: It doesn't try boosted (or idled) itself. Maybe that should be added... |
| 14:22:56 | bluebrother^ | I found two in the appendix. |
| 14:22:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Well, I just boosted manually. |
| 14:23:05 | Bger | bluebrother^: i only saw these 2 |
| 14:23:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | 200.0 at 1:1 |
| 14:23:25 | amiconn | Yes, that's what I did as well. boost + idle mode |
| 14:23:25 | bluebrother^ | ok, I'm already about fixing them. |
| 14:23:35 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: What target? |
| 14:23:44 | amiconn | (nano?) |
| 14:23:58 | Bger | bluebrother^ k;) |
| 14:24:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Yes, Nano |
| 14:24:30 | petur | Paul_The_Nerd: I now have very very infrequent hard freezes when resuming playback (mostly I think when pressing play too much) |
| 14:25:14 | petur | just happened again with a build of 10mins ago but unable to reproduce :( |
| 14:25:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | petur: Okay. I was curious 'cuz I just put a bleeding edge build on, and wasn't experiencing freezes in most of the ways people had reproduced fairly recently. So, it's *mostly* working better now? |
| 14:25:24 | petur | anyway, gotta run now |
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| 14:25:52 | bluebrother^ | Bger: commited. |
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| 14:28:33 | Bger | bluebrother^ the manual is becoming really good ... |
| 14:29:05 | bluebrother^ | thanks ... but it's still a lot of work. |
| 14:29:38 | Bger | yeah... |
| 14:30:16 | bluebrother^ | I hope we'll manage to finish with the 3.0 release ... at least for all 3.0 targets. All others can wait a bit longer ;-) |
| 14:30:24 | bluebrother^ | but time will show. |
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| 14:31:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: And the fps count is how many frames can be rendered to the framebuffer? |
| 14:31:38 | amiconn | No, it's how many frames can be transferred from the farmebuffer to the lcd |
| 14:33:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Got it, thanks. |
| 14:33:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Now, off to find breakfast. |
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| 14:33:56 | Mikachu | hooray, settings loaded with no errors |
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| 14:45:18 | Mikachu | i wrote my phone number in the boot message of the fat partition :) |
| 14:45:28 | Mikachu | i doubt anyone will see it if they find it, or return it to me |
| 14:46:02 | JdGordon | wierdo! |
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| 14:48:24 | LedByTheReaper | hey |
| 14:48:32 | LedByTheReaper | I need some help with Rockbox on 5G ipod |
| 14:49:54 | LedByTheReaper | But nope, everyones dead here |
| 14:50:08 | Bger | LedByTheReaper ask |
| 14:50:21 | Lear | amiconn: those recent button driver changes mean I occasionally get "doubleclicks" when moving up/down in lists (and possibly from stop, but I'm not sure about that)... |
| 14:50:55 | LedByTheReaper | I've extracted the 2.5 stuff onto my ipod |
| 14:51:08 | LedByTheReaper | so i have the .rockbox folder and the rockbox.ipod file |
| 14:51:20 | LedByTheReaper | And i turned my ipod off with the menu + middle button thing |
| 14:51:37 | LedByTheReaper | but it just turns back onto the normal ipod firmware |
| 14:52:29 | LedByTheReaper | with the silver apple logo |
| 14:54:11 | obo | LedByTheReaper: you need to do step 1: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
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| 14:54:24 | amiconn | Lear: Double clicks? |
| 14:54:26 | LedByTheReaper | i was going on the manual |
| 14:54:45 | Lear | amiconn: I press down once, cursor moves two lines. |
| 14:55:12 | chamois | anyone knows how modify the default port of a CVS server ? |
| 14:55:38 | Lear | Before the changes, everything worked as I expected it to... |
| 14:55:40 | LedByTheReaper | Also as this install isnt a simple as i thought is rockbox better than iPod linux? |
| 14:55:42 | obo | chamois: started by inetd or as a daemon? |
| 14:55:45 | LedByTheReaper | Is it more stable on the 5G |
| 14:55:51 | chamois | obo : inetd |
| 14:56:03 | amiconn | Lear: Strange, I never get this. What target? |
| 14:56:28 | Lear | Sorry, forgot to mention that. :) H140. |
| 14:56:35 | amiconn | The additional filtering clearly helps avoiding false readings on H300 |
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| 14:57:22 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, I did just try a read from CPU_INT_EN - same effect as CPU_INT_EN=TIMER1_MASK. |
| 14:57:29 | obo | LedByTheReaper: it's better at music playback... (IMO) |
| 14:57:38 | amiconn | The filtering should never cause additional events, as it only increases the requirements for an adc reading to be couted as valid |
| 14:58:01 | LedByTheReaper | urhmm |
| 14:58:06 | LedByTheReaper | apparantly my drive isnt an ipod.. |
| 14:58:17 | LedByTheReaper | and it said to run the stuff from my c: (system) drive |
| 14:58:31 | LedByTheReaper | should i put the stuff onto my ipod then run the command line stuff? |
| 14:58:46 | LedByTheReaper | ah nv, |
| 14:58:47 | LedByTheReaper | nvm |
| 14:58:49 | LedByTheReaper | im an idiot |
| 14:59:17 | amiconn | In addition to the old requirement of 2 consecutive button values being identical, 2 consecutive adc readings must be within +/-1 of each other to be considered at all |
| 14:59:42 | LedByTheReaper | I do hope it doesnt format my ipod |
| 15:00 |
| 15:00:25 | amiconn | I took the easy way and added this filtring for both H1x0 and H300. Of course I tested it on my H140, with no doubleclick effects... |
| 15:00:33 | amiconn | I wonder what happens there |
| 15:00:42 | obo | LedByTheReaper: nope, it doesn't format it |
| 15:00:53 | LedByTheReaper | Cool. |
| 15:01:00 | Lear | amiconn: well, it doesn't happen very often, and it might be limited to down presses... |
| 15:01:00 | LedByTheReaper | You can get Doom for rockbox right? |
| 15:02:09 | LedByTheReaper | image file takes a while.. |
| 15:03:12 | amiconn | Lear: I think I know what happens. It shows that the H1x0 also has problems with unstable adc readings... |
| 15:03:25 | Lear | amiconn: seems like the easiest way to reproduce it is to make two rapid down-presses in succession (during music playback; I'm not sure if I've noticed it without music playing). |
| 15:03:38 | amiconn | ? |
| 15:03:52 | * | LedByTheReaper stabs command prompt |
| 15:03:59 | amiconn | Two down presses should cause 2 events, or do you get three? |
| 15:04:18 | Lear | Yep, and from the looks of it, the extra comes with the second event. |
| 15:04:47 | amiconn | Either it's the PCF timing Linus mentioned, or it's unstable adc reading |
| 15:05:40 | LedByTheReaper | Guys, how long is step e) Create the new Rockbox-enabled image file containing the Rockbox Bootloader meant to take? |
| 15:06:01 | Mikachu | just creating it? a couple of seconds |
| 15:06:01 | amiconn | If the readings aren't 100% stable, it may happen that 2 consecutive values aren't in the +/-1 range of each other. This moment the button driver registers a release, but in fact you keep th ebutton pressed, and next round the readings are more stable again... |
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| 15:06:47 | amiconn | It's a tradeoff, maybe we can widen the valid window to +/-2 |
| 15:08:35 | LedByTheReaper | buh.. |
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| 15:10:44 | LedByTheReaper | ah nvm it's windows crappyness |
| 15:11:24 | LedByTheReaper | woah funky |
| 15:11:32 | LedByTheReaper | so who in here is a dev? |
| 15:12:19 | Jungti1234 | hey |
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| 15:13:32 | Jungti1234 | anyone can do compile? |
| 15:13:56 | Lear | amiconn: could be, I had occasional missed presses too. |
| 15:16:38 | LedByTheReaper | rockbox on 5g is a bit slow.. |
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| 15:17:14 | LedByTheReaper | ahhh crapp |
| 15:17:18 | LedByTheReaper | how do you exit games? |
| 15:17:29 | LedByTheReaper | well plugins |
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| 15:17:50 | LedByTheReaper | cause menu isnt doing anything |
| 15:17:55 | Aditya | hit stop |
| 15:18:02 | Aditya | or if nothing works just do reset |
| 15:18:07 | LedByTheReaper | it's frozen |
| 15:18:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:18:12 | linuxstb | LedByTheReaper: There is a lot of user documentation on www.rockbox.org If MENU doesn't work, press SELECT+MENU. |
| 15:18:12 | Aditya | what model? |
| 15:18:20 | LedByTheReaper | 5G |
| 15:18:23 | Aditya | oh |
| 15:18:30 | Aditya | no idea.. they should still have a reset button |
| 15:18:34 | LedByTheReaper | It's still better than the shitty apple firmware |
| 15:18:38 | LedByTheReaper | reset is select + menu |
| 15:18:47 | Aditya | ah k.. well thats what you need =P |
| 15:18:59 | linuxstb | And if you need to reset, hold MENU+SELECT together for a few seconds. |
| 15:19:32 | Aditya | I have an iRiver so had no idea, sry =P |
| 15:19:49 | LedByTheReaper | i wish i had an iriver.. |
| 15:19:54 | LedByTheReaper | but they're kinda expensive |
| 15:20:47 | LedByTheReaper | one thing, touch wheel is a tad too sensitive |
| 15:20:53 | LedByTheReaper | and how do you get to music :| |
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| 15:21:38 | linuxstb | LedByTheReaper: Search the website for "tagcache" |
| 15:21:49 | LedByTheReaper | okay |
| 15:21:56 | Mikachu | does the -t argument to genlang actually do anything? |
| 15:22:05 | LedByTheReaper | does it still support .mp4? |
| 15:24:51 | LedByTheReaper | well guys i have to say, you'be done a bloody good job |
| 15:24:55 | linuxstb | Yes, but it struggles at the moment with higher bitrate AAC files. ALAC works OK. |
| 15:25:47 | LedByTheReaper | Hmm, is it possible for you to add support for other audio formats, or is that down to the iPod hardware? |
| 15:26:12 | LedByTheReaper | all my musics in mp3 anyway.. most films are in xvid so i cba to convert them to MP4 |
| 15:26:26 | linuxstb | See this link for supported audio formats: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
| 15:26:28 | _FireFly_ | LedByTheReaper: afaik the ipod fw can't play flacs;) but rockbox can |
| 15:26:57 | linuxstb | LedByTheReaper: There is no video playback on any ipod in Rockbox. |
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| 15:27:35 | LedByTheReaper | will it be added? |
| 15:27:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Are you present, by chance? |
| 15:27:45 | LedByTheReaper | or has the video chip not been worked out yet? |
| 15:28:06 | LedByTheReaper | omg ogg support.. i love you all |
| 15:28:12 | _FireFly_ | ;) |
| 15:28:22 | linuxstb | No-one in Rockbox is exploring the Broadcom chip AFAIK. Maybe some ipodlinux people are. |
| 15:28:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | LedByTheReaper: Rockbox is primarily audio focused, so while video would be nice, I don't believe anyone core is working on it, and in the case of the 5G, a lot more needs to be known about the broadcom chip I believe. |
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| 15:28:30 | LedByTheReaper | I belive iPodlinux have.. |
| 15:28:40 | LedByTheReaper | and tbh video is a bit shit on the ipod.. |
| 15:28:50 | LedByTheReaper | as the screens the size of your hand.. and you only get 2 hours before it dies |
| 15:28:51 | linuxstb | IPL have had playback of uncompressed AVI for a long time. |
| 15:28:55 | Aditya | there my friend is why you don't go with apple |
| 15:29:02 | Aditya | *ducks* before the flamewars |
| 15:29:03 | LedByTheReaper | or microsoft |
| 15:29:10 | Aditya | iRiver ftw |
| 15:29:11 | Mikachu | heh |
| 15:29:11 | Aditya | =P |
| 15:29:11 | LedByTheReaper | *shudders* wma |
| 15:29:17 | Aditya | dude.. wma kicks ass |
| 15:29:22 | Mikachu | i just exited pacbox, and the battery meter is rapidly going from 50 to 85 |
| 15:29:24 | LedByTheReaper | I wanted an iRiver but it's £300 for a 40gb one |
| 15:29:30 | LedByTheReaper | Urm naaaah ogg > wma |
| 15:29:34 | Aditya | well yeah |
| 15:29:38 | Aditya | I didn't say it was the best |
| 15:29:43 | LedByTheReaper | MP3 > WMA |
| 15:29:46 | LedByTheReaper | WMA > AAC |
| 15:29:49 | Aditya | in my opinion ogg > mp3 > wma |
| 15:29:57 | Aditya | and wma > w/e else |
| 15:29:57 | LedByTheReaper | vynil > AAC |
| 15:30:06 | LedByTheReaper | AM radio > AAC |
| 15:30:07 | Aditya | I dont bother with anything else |
| 15:30:18 | Aditya | well I use some FLAC for things like enya |
| 15:30:31 | LedByTheReaper | I dunno FLAC ends up being 600MB for a whole album.. |
| 15:30:58 | Aditya | well it's lossless |
| 15:31:00 | LedByTheReaper | apparantly i have no artists on my ipod:| |
| 15:31:15 | LedByTheReaper | I know it's lossless, I'll get a song in flac and see if i can notice a difference |
| 15:31:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Well, hopefully you'll see this. I haven't got playback freezing on my H120, but there are some new bugs that I qualify as "Fun". Entering and exiting the quick menu early in a song causes a next-track change. Also, queuing and inserting songs causes a next track change. If you queue or insert next, it starts playing the song you chose to insert. If you do it last, it just plays the next song in the playlist. :) |
| 15:31:30 | linuxstb | LedByTheReaper: My FLAC albums are typically around 300MB. The largest is around 500MB. |
| 15:31:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | LedByTheReaper: FLAC is rarely over 400/album for me... |
| 15:31:41 | LedByTheReaper | Okay. |
| 15:31:44 | Aditya | LedByTheReaper: it wont make a difference for like Staind or Linkin Park |
| 15:31:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Seeing as a whole album is usually 650ish uncompressed... |
| 15:31:52 | LedByTheReaper | How dare you insult me:P |
| 15:32:00 | Aditya | its mostly used for things where the compression DOES take away quality |
| 15:32:07 | * | LedByTheReaper vomits at the thought of nu metal |
| 15:32:17 | Aditya | staind != nu metal |
| 15:32:31 | Aditya | LP maybe.. but staind is pretty good stuff |
| 15:33:00 | LedByTheReaper | Lamb of God - The Subtle Arts of Murder and Persuasion |
| 15:33:20 | LedByTheReaper | I need to get Killadelphia DVD.. |
| 15:33:59 | LedByTheReaper | How long does force tag cache update take? |
| 15:34:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | It can take as much as 5 minutes the first time, depending on the number of tracks, disk speed, etc. |
| 15:34:50 | LedByTheReaper | Okay. |
| 15:34:54 | LedByTheReaper | Well my ipods full. |
| 15:35:15 | LedByTheReaper | It's just it wont find any artists so i cant listen to any music on it and im going on holiday tomorrow ¬_¬ |
| 15:35:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, try deleting your tagcache, and doing another forced update from scratch |
| 15:35:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then, don't do anything while it's updating, even though it says it's "in the background" |
| 15:35:53 | LedByTheReaper | ok |
| 15:36:09 | LedByTheReaper | is party mode just like party mode in itunes? |
| 15:36:16 | LedByTheReaper | which no longer exists on my pc. |
| 15:36:20 | * | Paul_The_Nerd really thinks the tagcache update should splash "Tagcache Update Complete" when finished. |
| 15:36:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Party mode basically disables the ability for you to stop music, and makes clicking on songs add them to the end of the playlist, I believe |
| 15:36:49 | LedByTheReaper | ah |
| 15:36:56 | linuxstb | What's party mode in itunes? |
| 15:37:02 | LedByTheReaper | it's shuffle |
| 15:37:06 | LedByTheReaper | but shows you what songs come next |
| 15:37:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 15:37:15 | LedByTheReaper | so kinda removes the point in shuffle being a surprise |
| 15:38:31 | Mikachu | i thought the point of shuffle was that the order changes, not necessarily that you don't know the order |
| 15:39:10 | LedByTheReaper | well wmp's idea of shuffle is play 5 songs, hope you forget what songs they were and play them again |
| 15:39:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Are you sure it's not called "Random" there? |
| 15:39:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's a big difference between random and shuffle |
| 15:39:51 | LedByTheReaper | Searching (0 Artists found) |
| 15:40:04 | LedByTheReaper | urmmm noo |
| 15:40:13 | ender` | i always understood random to play a random song next, while shuffle would take a playlist, shuffle it around and play it wholly |
| 15:40:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | LedByTheReaper: After the tagcache update, did you shut down, and turn back on, and did it say "Committing Tagcache?" |
| 15:40:22 | LedByTheReaper | ah |
| 15:40:24 | LedByTheReaper | i shall do that now |
| 15:40:35 | LedByTheReaper | doom doesnt work btw |
| 15:40:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | ender': Basically, yes. With Random you could theoretically hear the same song 50 times in a row |
| 15:40:46 | LedByTheReaper | commiting tagache |
| 15:40:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | LedByTheReaper: What goes wrong with your doom. "Doesn't work" isn't a helpful statement |
| 15:41:03 | LedByTheReaper | says loading and nothing happens |
| 15:41:09 | LedByTheReaper | still at the plugin menu |
| 15:41:12 | Mikachu | i doubt any pseudo random algorithm would give you the same number 50 times |
| 15:41:14 | ender` | yup (though most random algorithms verify that you don't get the same song twice in a row) |
| 15:41:25 | LedByTheReaper | Yes but when your talking about microshite |
| 15:41:25 | Mikachu | even without that kind of tampering |
| 15:41:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: As I said "theoretically" which means "in theory, but not necessarily in practice" |
| 15:42:14 | Mikachu | and i'm saying you can't, even in theory, with most algorithms |
| 15:42:22 | LedByTheReaper | can rockbox charge and be used at the same time? |
| 15:42:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, but those algorithms aren't really random then |
| 15:43:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | LedByTheReaper: Yes and no. Some people have been able to, others claim it doesn't work. |
| 15:43:02 | ender` | depends |
| 15:43:05 | LedByTheReaper | loving the crossfading |
| 15:43:37 | * | LedByTheReaper stabs ipod |
| 15:44:09 | LedByTheReaper | whats rockbox based on then? |
| 15:44:13 | Mikachu | nothing! |
| 15:44:25 | LedByTheReaper | omg, binary clock ^.^ |
| 15:44:51 | LedByTheReaper | ah, i have no base wads for doom |
| 15:45:57 | Jungti1234 | hurry Bger! :) |
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| 15:47:20 | LedByTheReaper | very swish |
| 15:47:21 | pussfeller | playback from the cvs was working great for about 7-8 hours, then, it went whacky and wouldnt play anything, and then, it kept locking up and even changed my theme |
| 15:47:28 | pussfeller | last night |
| 15:47:44 | Jungti1234 | Mikachu |
| 15:47:54 | pussfeller | maybe that was some deleayed button pushes |
| 15:48:02 | LedByTheReaper | where do i put the doom wads? |
| 15:48:18 | Jungti1234 | bye all |
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| 15:48:21 | pussfeller | reaper alot of this stuff is one the wiki :) |
| 15:48:32 | LedByTheReaper | yes but that involves reading and my eyes hurt |
| 15:48:39 | LedByTheReaper | but some of the stuff on the wiki doesnt make sense |
| 15:48:49 | LedByTheReaper | like make a games folder for doom, when it's already on rockbox |
| 15:49:24 | LedByTheReaper | Hmm.. i wander if i can change the overall theme |
| 15:49:33 | pussfeller | but thats what you gotta do, it works |
| 15:49:44 | pussfeller | i dont know why it has different dirs |
| 15:50:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because the wads have to go somewhere it can look for them? |
| 15:50:13 | LedByTheReaper | ah okay |
| 15:50:23 | LedByTheReaper | Create a directory called /games/doom/ on your player and save the following file in that directory: |
| 15:50:36 | LedByTheReaper | Is that in .rockbox or just on the top directory of the ipod |
| 15:50:50 | Mikachu | top |
| 15:50:54 | Mikachu | hence the leading / |
| 15:50:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | It doesn't say "in .rockbox" |
| 15:51:23 | LedByTheReaper | ok |
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| 15:54:24 | LedByTheReaper | urm installing more themes? |
| 15:55:49 | LedByTheReaper | theres a theme folder full of cfgs |
| 15:56:55 | LedByTheReaper | nvm |
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| 16:00:57 | LedByTheReaper | thanks for the help |
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| 16:39:13 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: seen. |
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| 16:42:41 | austriancoder | Who is Dave and have done the last cvs commit? |
| 16:43:03 | Mikachu | that would be linuxstb |
| 16:43:23 | lostlogic | you know, there's an IRC nicknames wiki page... |
| 16:43:50 | austriancoder | lostlogic: no i didn't know this.. sorry |
| 16:44:01 | lostlogic | :-P |
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| 16:44:57 | linuxstb | austriancoder: That's me. |
| 16:45:50 | austriancoder | linuxstb: there are many other placed to change this.. can i or will you do the changes? |
| 16:46:19 | muesli__ | lostlogic sounds like a dejavu -><lostlogic> you know, there's an IRC nicknames wiki page... |
| 16:46:21 | muesli__ | ;) |
| 16:47:07 | linuxstb | Yes, I noticed that. Some places are checking for SIMULATOR, some don't. Feel free to change the rest. |
| 16:47:23 | austriancoder | linuxstb: okay |
| 16:47:27 | Mikachu | did anything change with text scrolling recently? |
| 16:47:40 | Mikachu | half of the times it's borken for me |
| 16:50:56 | austriancoder | linuxstb: commited |
| 16:52:49 | Mikachu | you could have changed it to ifdef instead |
| 16:53:51 | austriancoder | Mikachu: whats the difference in #ifdef an #if defined() |
| 16:55:35 | austriancoder | i could change it.. |
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| 17:01:07 | lostlogic | austriancoder: no difference ni practice, simply more familiar / common to use ifdef for a single define |
| 17:01:28 | austriancoder | lostlogic: have changed and commited it |
| 17:03:27 | * | linuxstb searches for a Linux audio player with replaygain and gapless support... |
| 17:04:09 | ep0ch | wine and foobar? |
| 17:04:22 | pill | hola |
| 17:04:40 | pill | rockbox is being very very buggy lately |
| 17:05:12 | linuxstb | pill: Yes, but it's in a good cause. |
| 17:05:31 | pill | finding a paperclip while in traffic @130kmh is hazardous :p |
| 17:05:41 | linuxstb | ep0ch: I haven't tried foobar for a while (I've used it under Wine before). I'll give it another go. |
| 17:08:04 | lostlogic | pill: with the latest build, the worst bug is rewinding during buffer fill (or to a point which is not in the buffer) causes badness... I'm working on it. |
| 17:08:41 | pill | i had that |
| 17:08:44 | pill | :) |
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| 17:09:04 | pill | i had that, and file view ID3 datadase causing hard hang |
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| 17:09:25 | lostlogic | hmm, don't know about that one, bug Slasheri :-P |
| 17:09:43 | pill | but i was just trying out tag cache |
| 17:09:51 | pill | which i'm not going to use often anyway |
| 17:09:54 | linuxstb | ep0ch: Trying foobar 0.9 with wine gives me a "foobar2000 v0.9 requires Windows 2000 or newer" error message. AFAIK, my wine is set up to mimic XP. |
| 17:10:05 | pill | the bug you're mentioning is more critical though :) |
| 17:10:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Did you see the message I left in the log 'bout queue/insert issues? |
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| 17:10:50 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: yep, I think both that and the rebuffer bug stem from a problem in the clearing of track entries. |
| 17:10:57 | lostlogic | which I am currently investigating. |
| 17:11:08 | ep0ch | linuxstb: interesting... I have no problems running it |
| 17:11:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Okay, just making sure the message made it to ye. |
| 17:12:23 | lostlogic | yep, I usually read back most of the logs while I'm gone looking for yellow (highlighted) |
| 17:13:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | I figured it was likely that you did, but sometimes things get overlooked. |
| 17:13:16 | lostlogic | trunuf |
| 17:14:01 | lostlogic | so the problem seems to be that invalidating track entries invalidates all of them, even the one that I'm currently reading/writing, which is _really_ frustrating, because it's coded to be a loop with a 1 track gap in it. |
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| 17:15:41 | lostlogic | found the bug, and I. am. dumb. |
| 17:16:03 | linuxstb | ep0ch: Are you definitely using the final 0.9 release? |
| 17:16:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does anyone know where to put fm presets for use with the "Load Presets" choice? |
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| 17:18:20 | ep0ch | linuxstb: yes foobar 0.9 and wine 0.9.11 in winxp mode |
| 17:18:44 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2711 (that's the patch committed to CVS) |
| 17:19:04 | ep0ch | linuxstb: maybe double check winecfg says winxp? |
| 17:19:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: After asking, I scanned the changelog and found it in radio.h :) |
| 17:19:10 | linuxstb | Debian is only giving me wine 0.9.10 I don't know if that's the problem. |
| 17:19:27 | ep0ch | i've had it working in older versions of wine too |
| 17:23:16 | linuxstb | ep0ch: winecfg said Windows 2000 for some reason. Changing that to XP, and the installer is now working... |
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| 17:25:13 | amiconn | Lear: Wanna test something? |
| 17:26:40 | linuxstb | ep0ch: It's working now, thanks. |
| 17:28:27 | amiconn | lostlogic: Do you have any idea what may cause the race on stop? |
| 17:28:51 | lostlogic | amiconn: no, I've had worse bugs to chase lately... |
| 17:28:58 | amiconn | It's odd that *all* targets and sims I've tested show one of the 2 possible behaviours, only H300 is different... |
| 17:29:00 | lostlogic | but I think I've just fixed the worst. |
| 17:29:11 | lostlogic | amiconn: that is quite odd. |
| 17:30:09 | amiconn | I'm not sure how to solve this, but the current voice implementation for swcodec leaves much to be desired... |
| 17:30:46 | amiconn | I should have shown you voice ui both on archos and iriver for comparison at devcon... |
| 17:31:30 | amiconn | I also want to see the voice codec <-> plugin iram clash solved before release, |
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| 17:31:44 | lostlogic | *nod* |
| 17:32:03 | amiconn | but I don't see a different way than having a separate voice codec, and this codec would have to run without any iram... |
| 17:32:05 | lostlogic | I haven't really come up with a good idea on how to 'solve' voice playback on swcodec yet... |
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| 17:32:29 | amiconn | lostlogic: How is voice mixing done at the pcm level currently? |
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| 17:32:49 | lostlogic | it's mixed in the pcmbuffer before it goes to the actual PCM |
| 17:32:59 | amiconn | How much latency? |
| 17:33:10 | lostlogic | ~1/4s |
| 17:33:24 | amiconn | Hmm, that should be okay, although less would be better... |
| 17:33:27 | lostlogic | see pcmbuf:pcmbuf_mix |
| 17:34:07 | lostlogic | unfortunately, every time I've tried to go less, it ends up running into a condition where the next piece of vocie isn't ready when the previous hits the DMA/FIQ, so there's a gap in the voice |
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| 17:34:20 | amiconn | We also need a way to preempt a clip at the compressed audio level. If it's possible to reset a codec, we wouldn't need to search a frame boundary in order to keep frame sync like we have to on hwcodec |
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| 17:35:16 | amiconn | Is it possible to tell libmad and/or other codecs that a new stream starts and they should discard the last prtial data? |
| 17:35:28 | lostlogic | I think that that is in there, handled on the voice_request_data function |
| 17:35:47 | lostlogic | amiconn: the ci.reload_codec condition is supposed to indicate that situation. |
| 17:35:49 | amiconn | Hmm, if it's in, it definitely doesn't work |
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| 17:37:21 | amiconn | If you're moving around the menu and stop on a new menu item before the old clip is finished, it should preempt the old clip before starting the new one. However, on swcodec, it tends to just queue up the clips, causing severe lag ui->voice |
| 17:37:35 | Lear | amiconn: sure, why not? :) |
| 17:38:19 | lostlogic | amiconn: it sometimes preempts, but sometimes not, which I don't understand, but is about par for the course on pre-refactor playback code. |
| 17:38:26 | amiconn | Lear: Open button.c and change the allowed delta to 2 (for H1x0): change line 847 to: |
| 17:38:38 | lostlogic | speaknig of which, I should look into the stop implementation to see wtf it does on non-color targets so wrong. |
| 17:38:59 | amiconn | if ((data < 0xf0) && ((unsigned)(data - last_button_val + 2) <= 4)) |
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| 17:40:45 | lostlogic | amiconn: ok, I see what the problem with stop is, and it is also why I'm getting audio artifacts for on-disk skips. |
| 17:41:03 | linuxstb | amiconn: Can't we handle IRAM for voice/plugins in the same way as voice/codecs - i.e. swap the IRAM contents? Or maybe disable voice in plugins until langv2-for-plugins arrives? |
| 17:41:09 | amiconn | You mean audio snippets played when they shoudln't? |
| 17:41:42 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes, disabling voice for plugins could be a temporary solution. |
| 17:42:09 | amiconn | Thing is, this swapping business will get arbitrary complex |
| 17:42:25 | amiconn | Sonn we will have to deal with encoders as well... |
| 17:42:29 | amiconn | *Soon |
| 17:42:42 | Lear | amiconn: actually did that a little while ago, but I haven't got around testing it yet... |
| 17:42:57 | amiconn | Perhaps we need a codec/plugin IRAM mutex. |
| 17:43:46 | Lear | (but with "+ 1" only... Should I really change that too?) |
| 17:43:49 | amiconn | Still, we have multiple threads wanting to use iram... |
| 17:44:13 | amiconn | Lear: Yes. With +1, the allowed tolearnce is asymmetric |
| 17:44:48 | amiconn | Adding the offset and casting to unsigned saves one comparison |
| 17:45:11 | amiconn | It's one of my favourite tricks... |
| 17:45:27 | Lear | Ah, yes... Didn't look closely at it at first. :) |
| 17:48:49 | lostlogic | amiconn: yeah, I think my implementation of stop_codec_flush may leave something to be desired. |
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| 17:50:55 | Lear | lostlogic: btw, what's the deal with the lock/unlock of the rebuffer mutex (i.e., why call the two in a row)? |
| 17:51:42 | lostlogic | Lear: lock it, I want to wait until the other thread unlocks it, so I lock again to go to sleep... but then I don't want to keep it locked, so I unlock right away. |
| 17:52:01 | lostlogic | Lear: it's just forcing that queued event to be executed synchronously... |
| 17:52:22 | lostlogic | because the seek isn't complete until it's done. |
| 17:52:28 | amiconn | Do we really need mutexes in playback? |
| 17:53:43 | lostlogic | in this case it is good to have... I did away with 2 mutexes already in this refactoring. |
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| 17:54:11 | lostlogic | this is a inter-thread interraction, those were mutexes protecting things that _should_ only happen on one thread. |
| 17:59:34 | Lear | amiconn: that didn't make much of a difference, I'd say... |
| 17:59:44 | amiconn | strange... |
| 17:59:56 | lostlogic | amiconn: actually... from my logf here, it looks like some thread calls an audio_pause at the same time as the audio_stop, so the weird pause condition is a button race of some strange sort!? |
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| 18:00:16 | lostlogic | and could indeed leave pcm paused on exit which would cause voice to stop playing. |
| 18:00:44 | amiconn | Hmm, that's another issue that needs to be solved |
| 18:01:09 | lostlogic | amiconn: yes, but for now, it's out of my hands, as my hands are tied to playback.c and pcmbuf.c :-P |
| 18:01:36 | Lear | Annoying, you can't leave menus with stop now, without stopping playback as you exit from the menu to the wps.... |
| 18:01:48 | lostlogic | sounds like another button issue? |
| 18:01:57 | lostlogic | button_stop|button_rel stops playback? |
| 18:02:34 | Lear | something like that, but menues are left on press only. I seem to recall a change along those lines... |
| 18:02:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | I *think* that I've also triggered a "previous track" while going up a level in the menu. |
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| 18:03:28 | lostlogic | gah, now I can't start playback, what did I break now!? |
| 18:03:49 | Mikachu | hm, the wheel sends |repeat when not releasing between two scrolls |
| 18:03:56 | Mikachu | but shouldn't it not send a repeat if you change directions? |
| 18:04:17 | lostlogic | Mikachu: that rings true... |
| 18:04:50 | Mikachu | i'll try to remember it for later :) |
| 18:06:33 | lostlogic | Mikachu: I think we also need a 'slowing down detection' for the wheel |
| 18:07:03 | Mikachu | lots of fun coding coming up |
| 18:07:08 | lostlogic | but I think I must go for several hours to help my mother paint her stupid house. |
| 18:08:44 | sharpe | i'm sure the house is sentient too. |
| 18:10:00 | _Lucretia_ | anyone know how the MT-500 port is going? |
| 18:10:04 | * | _Lucretia_ ducks |
| 18:10:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't believe there is one? |
| 18:10:29 | sharpe | i don't recall one... |
| 18:11:52 | _Lucretia_ | well, last I was here it was mainly a reverse engineering effort to get all the hw specs, I helped out, but couldn't really afford the time |
| 18:12:19 | _Lucretia_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/XclefMT500 |
| 18:13:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it seems nobody else has afforded the time, or at least nobody's been in here working on it or really talking about it in the forums. |
| 18:14:45 | sharpe | eh... damn c64 and it's VIC chip... |
| 18:15:01 | _Lucretia_ | oh well, shame really, if it had decent fw it'd be soooo much better...but anyways |
| 18:15:11 | _Lucretia_ | might mail him and see how far he got |
| 18:15:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, someone who owns one has to actually get through the hard parts. |
| 18:16:52 | Lear | Hm.. Pretty sure Slasheri's fix is to be blamed here... ;) |
| 18:17:15 | Lear | For one thing, it has "_PRE" backwards... |
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| 18:18:09 | sharpe | ERP_ ? |
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| 18:18:57 | Mikachu | lostlogic: basic seeking seems to work much better here now, abrepeat looks like it's still not working though |
| 18:20:33 | Lear | sharpe: :) No, _PRE is used to mean "pressed" as in a "button is pressed down". Here it used for "button is released"... |
| 18:21:03 | amiconn | _PRE actually means 'preceding event' |
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| 18:21:29 | amiconn | ...which can never be 'button released', that's true |
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| 18:22:30 | sharpe | oh, right. thought you meant it like he was dyslexic and did "ERP_" instead of "_PRE" |
| 18:23:53 | Lear | And in this case, it means the (iriver) wps exists on a lone exit release, which is just what you get after leaving a menu, which leaves on an exit press... |
| 18:24:16 | Mikachu | so _PRE should be the press, and it should only exit on the release if lastbutton == _PRE |
| 18:24:50 | amiconn | That's th epurpose of _PRE - distinguishing short / long presses |
| 18:25:19 | Mikachu | maybe stuff generally shouldn't exit on press either |
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| 18:25:39 | amiconn | It should, if there's nothing to distinguish |
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| 18:25:52 | Mikachu | the thing it quits too could be confused, as in this case |
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| 18:25:55 | Mikachu | s/too/to/ |
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| 18:26:36 | amiconn | That's caught by the _PRE in the parent event loop |
| 18:27:06 | amiconn | The bug clearly is what Lear discovered |
| 18:27:08 | Mikachu | what if the parent doesn't care about long/short presses, then it won't have a pre? |
| 18:27:21 | amiconn | No, but then it would also trigger on press |
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| 18:27:40 | sharpe | ahah, something works... |
| 18:27:54 | sharpe | i have no idea what it says though. |
| 18:27:54 | Vicki | g'afternoon everyone |
| 18:27:57 | Mikachu | yes but what does that have to do with anything? |
| 18:28:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Something works? |
| 18:28:14 | sharpe | yeah |
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| 18:28:32 | sharpe | as far as i can tell, it's now in the loop to get text input |
| 18:29:28 | AdamYac | I need help please |
| 18:29:28 | sharpe | yeah, it is |
| 18:29:51 | AdamYac | Anyone? |
| 18:29:54 | Lear | Since that "fix" was done for iriver targets only, I'd say we back it out for now... |
| 18:29:59 | Vicki | I was talking to DEATH (Peter from FB2K) about mpc seeking on embedded systems, and he informs me that a new update is available for libmpcdec that has seeking for embedded systems |
| 18:30:37 | AdamYac | ? |
| 18:30:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: 23 seconds passed between your first two messages. People are often busy and don't respond instantly. Go ahead and ask your question, but please try to have patience. |
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| 18:31:13 | Vicki | <DEATH> someone modified libmpcdec for faster seeking recently, but results it produces after seek are not identical to sequential decode |
| 18:31:13 | Vicki | <DEATH> should be sufficient for rockbox |
| 18:31:13 | Vicki | <DEATH> go ask in #mpc on irc.musepack.net |
| 18:31:33 | Vicki | thought I'd share this with the group |
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| 18:32:05 | AdamYac | How can I shuffle songs on my ipod 5g? |
| 18:33:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: Have you read the manual? |
| 18:33:22 | Vicki | apparently not :) |
| 18:33:38 | AdamYac | I tried reading through and saw nothing. Can I have a link please |
| 18:33:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060409.pdf |
| 18:34:13 | AdamYac | Appreciate it |
| 18:34:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | A search in it for "shuffle" should do the trick. |
| 18:34:45 | lostlogic | Mikachu: I should enable ab repeat mode on the ipods so I can test it :-P what's wrong with it? |
| 18:34:55 | AdamYac | okay |
| 18:34:55 | Mikachu | lostlogic: it jumps to the wrong place |
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| 18:35:06 | Mikachu | lostlogic: and then it sounds a bit strange when it does reach the A point |
| 18:35:13 | Mikachu | like it jumps again, but the progress bar is continuous |
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| 18:35:26 | Mikachu | also, dynamic playlist creation is still busted but i guess you know that |
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| 18:36:13 | lostlogic | Mikachu: ab repeat on swcodec doesn't sync with the progress bar correctly, that's a known bug, it should: jump to before the A marker's dislpay location (with no change to the music), then jump in the sound to the A location when the progress bar reaches the A point |
| 18:36:17 | Vicki | AdamYac: General Settings - Playback - Shuffle (Y/N) |
| 18:36:28 | lostlogic | Mikachu: dynamic playlist still broken, I didn't know that, I guess that's my next thing to investigate |
| 18:36:32 | Mikachu | oh okay |
| 18:36:36 | Mikachu | maybe that's what it does then |
| 18:36:42 | * | Paul_The_Nerd notices a small problem with the Mini 2G picture on the manual page. |
| 18:36:49 | AdamYac | I have it set to yes Vicki |
| 18:36:53 | Mikachu | lostlogic: i guess it just shows more after i increased the pcm ratio of the buffer |
| 18:37:17 | Mikachu | lostlogic: i'm going to verify it's broken with clean cvs too |
| 18:37:19 | Vicki | AdamYac: you also have a Repeat : Shuffle option as well |
| 18:37:23 | AdamYac | When I come to my list of music. Theres no way to shuffle it |
| 18:37:56 | AdamYac | It just plays the artist I choose |
| 18:37:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: When you launch a playlist it should shuffle when you play it. If you select a song, it should shuffle all other songs in that album/folder, but start you on the one you selected (unless you disabled that) |
| 18:38:29 | lostlogic | Mikachu: yes, I still haven't worked out a way to sync it up :-\ |
| 18:38:39 | AdamYac | I dont have a playlist |
| 18:38:43 | sharpe | lets see if this works for text output... |
| 18:38:53 | AdamYac | I just have ipodcontrol/ music/ atreyu etc etc |
| 18:38:55 | * | lostlogic out |
| 18:39:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: Well, it will only shuffle the music loaded in the dynamic playlist then. That means "All the music in the folder you launched" |
| 18:40:21 | AdamYac | So i have to put music in my playlist? |
| 18:41:04 | Mikachu | that would be advantageous if you want to listen to it |
| 18:41:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, if you pick a song, it'll shuffle all songs in that folder. If you want to shuffle all music on the device, then you either need to "Insert" the ipod control folder, or create a playlist out of it. |
| 18:41:38 | sharpe | yay! |
| 18:41:49 | sharpe | guess what! |
| 18:41:51 | sharpe | anyone |
| 18:41:52 | Mikachu | what??? |
| 18:41:53 | AdamYac | Can you explain how to do that? Since I only have ipod_control/music |
| 18:41:59 | * | Mikachu excited + 3 |
| 18:42:06 | sharpe | Text output for the c64 emulator! :D |
| 18:42:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: Playlists also are covered in the manual. |
| 18:42:17 | amiconn | wtf... |
| 18:42:28 | AdamYac | okay and should repeat be on shuffle? |
| 18:42:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you want it to reshuffle at the end of the playlist, yes. |
| 18:43:08 | AdamYac | k |
| 18:43:13 | AdamYac | lol i got 900 songs sooo lol |
| 18:43:16 | sharpe | the c64 character set has the same placement as ascii for spaces, numbers, and asterisks |
| 18:43:48 | AdamYac | Can I make a playlist on my pc |
| 18:43:52 | AdamYac | or do i have to do it on my ipod |
| 18:43:58 | Mikachu | lostlogic: it looks like maybe it's just me |
| 18:44:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can do it on your PC, but 900 songs should just take a few seconds if you want an all songs playlist |
| 18:44:20 | * | Paul_The_Nerd would *really* suggest reading the manual. |
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| 18:44:32 | AdamYac | I did! its confusing to e |
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| 18:44:50 | AdamYac | How can I put all 900 songs in one playlist? |
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| 18:45:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | I told you, choose to Insert the ipod control folder |
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| 18:45:33 | AdamYac | Insert the ipod control folder ?? |
| 18:46:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can also enter the itunes control folder, and then choose "Create Playlist" in the playlist menu (you need to have recursvely insert directories enabled though) |
| 18:47:32 | AdamYac | Paul the nerd do you have aim??? |
| 18:47:41 | AdamYac | this is confusing all I want to do is shuffle ALL my music |
| 18:48:27 | Aditya | you cant |
| 18:48:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: I just told you how to. I would suggest that you actually read the manual, specifically the section on playlists. |
| 18:48:34 | Aditya | you have to buy ipod shuffle |
| 18:48:41 | Aditya | and then buy the shuffle attachment |
| 18:48:49 | Aditya | and then pay 50 dollars extra to steve jobs |
| 18:48:52 | AdamYac | Fuck you |
| 18:48:59 | Mikachu | lostlogic: ah, only Insert Shuffled is broken on an empty playlist, but that's not enabled by default |
| 18:49:08 | Aditya | my job here is done.. *flies away* |
| 18:49:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: Being rude is not any more likely to get you help. Really, if you'd actually read the manual, it covers how to insert songs and folders into a playlist, as well as the "Create Playlist" option, which is in the Playlist section of the main menu |
| 18:53:34 | AdamYac | BEING RUDE!? |
| 18:53:41 | AdamYac | <Aditya> you have to buy ipod shuffle |
| 18:53:55 | Mikachu | do you think it might POSSIBLY have been a joke? |
| 18:53:57 | AdamYac | and i figured it out |
| 18:54:01 | AdamYac | Its rude |
| 18:54:02 | Mikachu | yay you |
| 18:54:06 | sharpe | woohoo. |
| 18:54:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | AdamYac: You are a conscious and free thinking human being, and presumably are fully capable of ignoring jibes from other folk if you so choose. Anothers actions are never an excuse for your own. |
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| 18:54:26 | AdamYac | You guys need to get some sunlight |
| 18:54:38 | Mikachu | personal attack against person helping you |
| 18:54:40 | * | Mikachu checks off list |
| 18:54:51 | Mikachu | angry message and /quit coming up? |
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| 18:55:34 | sharpe | great predictions. |
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| 18:55:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 18:55:54 | Mikachu | i have been on irc before |
| 18:55:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I know I was a bit short with him, but seriously, I'm positive he didn't read the manual. |
| 18:56:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | And honestly, I'll help people who admit they haven't read it, but people who seem to be lying and say they have, that's different. |
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| 18:56:34 | Aditya | sry about the apple poke.. I didn't thin he would take it that seriously |
| 18:56:49 | Mikachu | i wouldn't have thought so either |
| 18:57:21 | sharpe | heh... yay c64 emulator for rockbox... :D |
| 18:57:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aditya: Well, I was kinda already giving him a hard time with the repeated "read the manual" remarks |
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| 19:01:30 | sharpe | now, to try the really bad way of something like kb input. |
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| 19:04:21 | sharpe | eh... |
| 19:05:16 | * | amiconn is puzzled by the remote lcd update |
| 19:05:34 | amiconn | It runs at half the speed it should... |
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| 19:14:35 | sharpe | wow.. um... apparantly i'm using memcpy. |
| 19:15:20 | linuxstb | gcc has a habit of that... |
| 19:15:33 | amiconn | Hmm, and I can use the dedicated idle-freq loop up to 124MHz (!), getting 363fps |
| 19:15:35 | sharpe | i've noticed... |
| 19:16:16 | linuxstb | Just define your own memcpy which calls rb->memcpy. |
| 19:16:31 | amiconn | 363 fps is (calculating back to transfer speed) still within specs for the remote lcd, *but*: The dedicated loop should go way above that |
| 19:17:11 | amiconn | (or I can't calculate at all and should stop coding rockbox for at least a week) |
| 19:17:20 | sharpe | eh, i've fixed it |
| 19:17:41 | sharpe | instead of just char, i declared it as static also... |
| 19:17:43 | amiconn | Linus would proably be able to shed some light on that with his logic analyser ... :/ |
| 19:18:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:19:33 | sharpe | ahah, slowly getting 'PRINT' as input from the keyboard... |
| 19:20:26 | Benji | hiya, just letting you know VBR playback on the ipod 4g daily is jerky |
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| 19:21:10 | warthawg | is gcc removing all the timing loop code i put in? |
| 19:21:20 | warthawg | that bastid! |
| 19:21:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Benji: That's very vague. Does it happen with all VBR files, or just ones over a certain bitrate? What exactly do you mean by "jerky"? Was it working yesterday? Last week? |
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| 19:25:03 | sharpe | ahh! |
| 19:27:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | choo? |
| 19:27:53 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 19:27:58 | sharpe | c64 emulator :D |
| 19:30:25 | Benji | sorry about the vagueness, latest daily build, I've been using the daily builds for as long as I've been using rockbox (about 2 weeks). Its just a short pause at random intervals every 30 secs to a minute. its worst in one album I have of mainly ~200-240k VBR mp3s but does happen to others. My FLAC and 320kbps CBR mp3s play fine. changing to the engineer or zezayer wps from the default helps a little. ReplayGain is off. Using vbrfi |
| 19:30:51 | Mikachu | Using vbrfi |
| 19:31:16 | Mikachu | Benji: but using peakmeters is probably your problem |
| 19:32:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Benji: Yeah, simple WPSes without peakmeters, Equalizer off. Rockbox on iPod at least doesn't do as well as it could with MP3s at the moment, so a lot of it is just that more optimization is needed, but there are other focuses at the moment. |
| 19:34:15 | Benji | so if I use a WPS without a peakmeter will the peakmeter still operate but just not display anything? or is it disabled entirely? |
| 19:35:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's disabled (or at least, I think it is. It stops having the negative effect on performance, at least) |
| 19:35:22 | warthawg | does anyone know where APPLE_IPODNANO gets defined? |
| 19:36:42 | obo | find . -iname *.h | xargs grep -n APPLE_IPODNANO :) |
| 19:36:43 | Benji | ok, well I guess I'll have to rerip the music into FLAC then, thanks :) |
| 19:37:06 | warthawg | thanks, obo, teach a man to fish, and he will burn down the village ;) |
| 19:37:14 | obo | hehe |
| 19:38:12 | warthawg | man, it found it just like that, that's a really handy tip |
| 19:38:41 | warthawg | i am going to alias that as where_is |
| 19:39:01 | obo | you might need to look at .c files as well sometimes - depends what you're after.. |
| 19:39:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, that one only looks in .h files so only really useful for defines and such |
| 19:39:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Benji: Or ogg vorbis. It tends to work a bit better on the ipods right now. |
| 19:39:26 | linuxstb | warthawg: Are you using the current CVS? Those defines have been removed - use IPOD_NANO instead. |
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| 19:40:05 | warthawg | linuxstb, i think i might have the cvs version in the uisimulator directory, and a daily in the one i am tinkering in |
| 19:40:28 | warthawg | i guess i should be using a cvs version for tinkering |
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| 19:42:59 | sharpe | http://mattb.strangled.net/repository/rockboxc64.png |
| 19:43:04 | sharpe | yay me |
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| 19:43:30 | Zeus | Hello folx |
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| 19:44:48 | sharpe | well, at least i have proof that i've gotten the emulator somewhat working... |
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| 19:45:54 | Zeus | sharpe, which kind of emulator? |
| 19:46:02 | Zeus | and for Rockbox? |
| 19:46:06 | sharpe | http://mattb.strangled.net/repository/rockboxc64.png kin of speaks for itself |
| 19:46:08 | sharpe | and yes |
| 19:46:32 | Zeus | ok, I'll check |
| 19:47:04 | overflow-1 | the doom that comes with the default rockbox, is doom I or II |
| 19:47:05 | Zeus | what is it for? |
| 19:47:15 | sharpe | c64 emulator for rockbox... |
| 19:47:44 | * | Zeus is silly and don't know c64 emulator? |
| 19:47:53 | sharpe | commodore 64? |
| 19:48:12 | Zeus | what is it for? |
| 19:48:22 | sharpe | it's an old... computer |
| 19:48:31 | Zeus | good for Rockbox? |
| 19:48:42 | sharpe | hmm? |
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| 19:49:20 | Zeus | what can you do with this in Rockbox, I meant why is it good |
| 19:49:24 | Zeus | ? |
| 19:49:26 | BHSPitLappy | ... |
| 19:49:31 | BHSPitLappy | it's just an emulator, dude. |
| 19:49:39 | BHSPitLappy | people will do what they want to. |
| 19:49:48 | Zeus | just the fun to port emulator? |
| 19:49:52 | BHSPitLappy | umm |
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| 19:50:17 | Zeus | sharpe? |
| 19:50:20 | sharpe | yes? |
| 19:50:36 | Zeus | what do you do with this in Rockbox? |
| 19:50:50 | sharpe | not much at the moment |
| 19:50:57 | Zeus | ok |
| 19:51:16 | sharpe | right now it just emulates the cpu, and part of the video output. |
| 19:51:20 | Zeus | reform.−−> what will you can do? :p |
| 19:51:32 | Zeus | okidokie |
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| 19:51:45 | sharpe | hopefully implement everything to where it can run a c64 game or two. |
| 19:51:49 | LedByTheReaper | Hey. |
| 19:52:03 | BHSPitLappy | Zeus: play c64 games and apps |
| 19:52:03 | Zeus | sharpe: ah, that sounds better |
| 19:52:16 | BHSPitLappy | Zeus: Wikipedia is your friend. |
| 19:52:17 | LedByTheReaper | With the 5G rockbox is there a function like shuffle songs on the apple firmware? |
| 19:52:22 | sharpe | si |
| 19:52:52 | * | Zeus wants wikipedia on RockBox ;) |
| 19:53:18 | BHSPitLappy | then port it :O |
| 19:53:20 | LedByTheReaper | you can get it on ipod linux |
| 19:53:25 | BHSPitLappy | yep |
| 19:53:30 | BHSPitLappy | WikiPodia |
| 19:53:36 | sharpe | i feel like i've done something now :D |
| 19:53:38 | LedByTheReaper | Who here's using rockbox on a 5G? |
| 19:53:44 | * | BHSPitLappy pats sharpe on the back |
| 19:53:46 | * | BHSPitLappy is |
| 19:53:47 | bluey | me :S |
| 19:53:48 | sharpe | i am... |
| 19:53:53 | * | Zeus wants WikiVox ! |
| 19:53:58 | LedByTheReaper | urm doesnt anyone have problems when they try and play a song from songs |
| 19:54:02 | LedByTheReaper | mine just freezes.. |
| 19:54:05 | Zeus | WikiBox |
| 19:54:08 | BHSPitLappy | mine's fine |
| 19:54:11 | LedByTheReaper | cause i just want it to play all of the songs on there |
| 19:54:13 | sharpe | so is mine |
| 19:54:29 | LedByTheReaper | so i have to go to songs... select any song and then it doesnt load the song and just freezes so i have to reboot |
| 19:54:39 | LedByTheReaper | but the backlight comes on |
| 19:54:54 | LedByTheReaper | it just doesnt do anything else |
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| 19:56:21 | overflow-1 | n00b question: must we create /games/doom in the root of say /media/ipod or do we create it in /media/ipod/.rockbox ? |
| 19:56:53 | LedByTheReaper | root directory |
| 19:56:55 | BHSPitLappy | overflow-1: mkdir /media/ipod/games/doom |
| 19:57:05 | overflow-1 | BHSPitLappy, LedByTheReaper: tnx. |
| 19:57:18 | LedByTheReaper | as in D:games/doom |
| 19:57:25 | LedByTheReaper | d being whatever your ipod is |
| 19:57:33 | LedByTheReaper | i got confused by that earlier lol |
| 19:57:55 | LedByTheReaper | but anyway, does rockbox have a play all thing? |
| 19:58:03 | Zeus | sharpe: it's cool, that seems that there are plenty of c64 games −− if you manage to have it working, I'm sure some users will want to ports all kind of games |
| 19:58:14 | BHSPitLappy | they won't need to port anything. |
| 19:58:21 | BHSPitLappy | that's what the emulator is for... |
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| 19:59:17 | LedByTheReaper | anyone? |
| 19:59:52 | Zeus | BHSPitLappy: you meant that all games will be on ? |
| 19:59:52 | LedByTheReaper | and OMGOMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGOMG new series of dr who ^.^ |
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| 20:00:07 | BHSPitLappy | Zeus: ... what do you think an emulator is? |
| 20:00:12 | LedByTheReaper | lol |
| 20:00:26 | LedByTheReaper | sharpe.. |
| 20:00:36 | sharpe | yes? |
| 20:00:38 | Zeus | yeah I thougt to the GNUboy one for exemple |
| 20:00:45 | Zeus | but ROMs needed |
| 20:00:53 | Zeus | is it the same with c64? |
| 20:00:55 | LedByTheReaper | does rockbox have a thing like shuffle songs |
| 20:01:00 | sharpe | yes |
| 20:01:02 | LedByTheReaper | thats on the main menu of the apple firmware |
| 20:01:06 | LedByTheReaper | where do i find it? |
| 20:01:34 | LedByTheReaper | i have shuffle on.. i just dont wanna go songs -> find a song cause then it'll crash |
| 20:01:35 | sharpe | on the while playing screen, if you press menu, then i think left, it'll turn on shuffle... |
| 20:01:45 | LedByTheReaper | well not crash |
| 20:01:48 | LedByTheReaper | it just takes AGES |
| 20:02:09 | Zeus | LedByTheReaper: Rockbox concept is: all times one on the fly playlist has created |
| 20:02:27 | LedByTheReaper | so it's gunna take ages everytime i want to play everything? |
| 20:02:35 | Zeus | then if you want shuffle all your song, you will need to create the root playlist |
| 20:02:37 | LedByTheReaper | and i swear audio quality has improved.. |
| 20:02:51 | Zeus | the one including all your song, and then shuffled it |
| 20:03:07 | LedByTheReaper | can you rephrase that.. :\ |
| 20:03:28 | Zeus | LedByTheReaper: go to playlist option and create the roots playliust |
| 20:03:56 | Zeus | once done, just call context menu and reshuffle it |
| 20:04:24 | LedByTheReaper | call context menu? |
| 20:04:38 | Zeus | did you read the manual yet? |
| 20:04:44 | LedByTheReaper | So creating the playlist makes a playlist of everysong.. then aslong as i have shuffle on it'll play diff every time. |
| 20:04:49 | LedByTheReaper | I did.. that wasnt in the manual. |
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| 20:05:03 | Zeus | everytime you want shuffle all the songs |
| 20:05:13 | LedByTheReaper | I always have it shuffled. |
| 20:05:17 | LedByTheReaper | well have shuffle on |
| 20:05:31 | Zeus | but for exemple if you are listening one album or one dir, you can always reshuffle |
| 20:05:39 | Zeus | that how Rockbox works |
| 20:05:46 | LedByTheReaper | mm |
| 20:06:01 | LedByTheReaper | how do i get back to the now playing screen |
| 20:06:12 | Zeus | LedByTheReaper: then, each time you'll start something that will auto shuffle |
| 20:06:21 | sharpe | hmm... so far, something like text display for the c64... think i should work now, on actually using the c64 character set? |
| 20:06:23 | Zeus | with option on |
| 20:06:56 | Zeus | LedByTheReaper: please read the manual |
| 20:07:02 | LedByTheReaper | I blody well have |
| 20:07:09 | LedByTheReaper | the manual has bugger all in it that's correct |
| 20:07:15 | LedByTheReaper | it doesnt even have the full install procedure |
| 20:07:18 | Zeus | please search on it a bit please |
| 20:07:25 | Zeus | install? |
| 20:07:45 | Zeus | Rockbox doesnt running on your DAP yet? |
| 20:07:55 | LedByTheReaper | rockbox is on my 5G |
| 20:07:59 | LedByTheReaper | after getting help in here |
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| 20:08:25 | Zeus | well, why do you need install procedure? |
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| 20:08:38 | LedByTheReaper | I dont now |
| 20:08:49 | LedByTheReaper | I want to know how to get back to the whats playing screen from the menus |
| 20:09:16 | Zeus | problem is I don't have *evil* ipods |
| 20:09:33 | Zeus | and the button mapping is depending to your DAP |
| 20:09:39 | LedByTheReaper | yup. |
| 20:09:41 | LedByTheReaper | ipods are evil |
| 20:09:49 | LedByTheReaper | it doesnt tell you the button on the wiki |
| 20:09:50 | Zeus | then I can't help you for which button... manual can ;) |
| 20:10:11 | LedByTheReaper | IT DOESNT SAY |
| 20:10:18 | Zeus | and on manual? |
| 20:10:44 | Zeus | apparently, no evil ipods user around for tell you |
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| 20:11:18 | LedByTheReaper | ah nvm |
| 20:11:22 | LedByTheReaper | rebooting it worked |
| 20:11:33 | LedByTheReaper | i hope they iron this out soon |
| 20:11:50 | LedByTheReaper | Can't wait for someone to try and use my iPod though =p |
| 20:11:55 | | Part Aditya |
| 20:12:17 | Zeus | LedByTheReaper: are you developer yourself? |
| 20:12:48 | LedByTheReaper | no |
| 20:13:03 | LedByTheReaper | I dont know a great deal of usefull programming languages. |
| 20:13:23 | LedByTheReaper | if i did i would help |
| 20:13:41 | LedByTheReaper | And brb dinner. |
| 20:13:46 | Zeus | yeah that why I asked you :p |
| 20:13:53 | Zeus | I'll move too |
| 20:14:06 | * | LedByTheReaper is afk |
| 20:14:59 | Zeus | just wanted to speak a bit with the Rockbox communauty, that was loooong weeks I didn't update my Rockbox version |
| 20:16:26 | Zeus | it's time to go for me too, Rockbox updated on my iriver |
| 20:16:40 | Zeus | I'll check what is new ;) |
| 20:16:45 | Zeus | bye all |
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| 20:27:34 | * | LedByTheReaper is back |
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| 20:27:47 | LedByTheReaper | this is scary |
| 20:27:53 | LedByTheReaper | my ipod has better sound quality than my pc |
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| 20:28:33 | LedByTheReaper | Anyone here use Sennheiser headphones? |
| 20:28:39 | ScoTTie | probably because your using some crappy onboard soundcard thats sitting right next to your PSU |
| 20:28:48 | LedByTheReaper | zomg i have an AC97 =p |
| 20:28:53 | ScoTTie | lol |
| 20:28:56 | LedByTheReaper | nForce 2 EAX2 6 channel |
| 20:29:00 | LedByTheReaper | And it's actually pretty good. |
| 20:29:09 | ScoTTie | ive got something similar |
| 20:29:10 | LedByTheReaper | But yeh, I need to upgrade pc.. |
| 20:29:15 | LedByTheReaper | Gotta wait till im 18 to get my savings. |
| 20:29:17 | ScoTTie | its ok i guess |
| 20:29:53 | LedByTheReaper | Rockbox is the sex though. |
| 20:30:19 | ScoTTie | any confirmation of audio working on 1g minis ? |
| 20:30:22 | LedByTheReaper | Hmm.. I hope I have enough space to fit hitchhikers guide to the galaxy on.. |
| 20:30:45 | LedByTheReaper | Minis look tough. |
| 20:30:46 | BHSPitLappy | great, iTunes is really pissing me off |
| 20:30:52 | LedByTheReaper | Why are you using it? |
| 20:30:54 | LedByTheReaper | It's shit. |
| 20:30:58 | BHSPitLappy | ya think? |
| 20:30:58 | ScoTTie | itunes wont recognise my ipod |
| 20:31:01 | LedByTheReaper | Winamps had native iPod support for ages. |
| 20:31:07 | BHSPitLappy | itunes locked off |
| 20:31:08 | ScoTTie | neither will anything but anapod |
| 20:31:10 | LedByTheReaper | And with rockbox you dont need itunes |
| 20:31:14 | ScoTTie | native? |
| 20:31:17 | ScoTTie | only since 5.20 ;) |
| 20:31:18 | BHSPitLappy | when I killed the process, the system restarted. |
| 20:31:22 | LedByTheReaper | winamp comes with ipod support out of the box |
| 20:31:30 | LedByTheReaper | 5.20 was out a month ago? |
| 20:31:33 | LedByTheReaper | thats ages =p |
| 20:31:38 | ScoTTie | sif |
| 20:31:48 | BHSPitLappy | I'm not aware of other programs handling videos well |
| 20:31:52 | LedByTheReaper | But for some reason I've gone back to WMP |
| 20:32:00 | LedByTheReaper | VLC is the best video player out there. |
| 20:32:06 | BHSPitLappy | duh... |
| 20:32:10 | BHSPitLappy | I mean getting them on the iPod |
| 20:32:13 | LedByTheReaper | oh |
| 20:32:22 | LedByTheReaper | yeh i use itunes for that |
| 20:32:33 | LedByTheReaper | and podcasts |
| 20:32:37 | BHSPitLappy | that too |
| 20:32:43 | LedByTheReaper | Anyone here sub to VOD cars? |
| 20:32:47 | BHSPitLappy | where would I be without my Strong Bad podcast |
| 20:33:20 | LedByTheReaper | I get happy tree friends, vod cars, all day breakfast comedy, cs-dl and that funny astonamy one |
| 20:33:50 | sharpe | okay, i think i know the format of the c64 character sets |
| 20:34:00 | LedByTheReaper | woo |
| 20:34:03 | amiconn | bbl |
| 20:34:03 | LedByTheReaper | crashday's downloaded |
| 20:34:11 | | Part amiconn |
| 20:34:52 | LedByTheReaper | stupid crappy metallica songs |
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| 20:35:10 | LedByTheReaper | GAAAAAAAAAH |
| 20:35:18 | Mikachu | sshhh |
| 20:35:18 | LedByTheReaper | Rockbox isnt playing stuff properly |
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| 20:35:36 | LedByTheReaper | now it is |
| 20:36:42 | LedByTheReaper | sundays are boring |
| 20:37:04 | Mikachu | tomorrow is manic monday, are those better? |
| 20:37:33 | LedByTheReaper | im going to cornwall for a week |
| 20:37:42 | LedByTheReaper | and yeh, 2 week holiday from college |
| 20:38:04 | Mikachu | wouldn't you still be in high school if you're not 18? |
| 20:38:12 | LedByTheReaper | I'm in the UK |
| 20:38:20 | Mikachu | ah |
| 20:38:26 | LedByTheReaper | You finish compulsary education at 16. |
| 20:38:44 | LedByTheReaper | And yeh, I'm in my first year of software development at college. |
| 20:38:46 | Mikachu | i'm pretty sure high school isn't compulsory? |
| 20:38:53 | LedByTheReaper | cause i fucked up my A levels last year |
| 20:39:01 | LedByTheReaper | I dont know about the US education system. |
| 20:39:14 | Mikachu | i have given up understanding other countries' school systems |
| 20:39:24 | LedByTheReaper | Ignorance is bliss ;) |
| 20:39:43 | LedByTheReaper | Andway. going to play crash day |
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| 20:39:46 | * | LedByTheReaper is busy |
| 20:39:55 | Apostle^ | hi, i copied the .rockbox folder to my ipod |
| 20:40:01 | Apostle^ | but it still can't find it |
| 20:40:13 | Mikachu | did you also copy rockbox.ipod to your ipod? (not into .rockbox though) |
| 20:40:39 | Apostle^ | yes |
| 20:40:45 | Apostle^ | the OS loads but the rockbox folder has an X |
| 20:40:49 | Apostle^ | and it can't be found |
| 20:41:00 | Apostle^ | i checked the permissions it looks okay |
| 20:41:41 | Mikachu | what do you want to do exactly? |
| 20:42:02 | Apostle^ | boot rockbox .. |
| 20:42:07 | Apostle^ | it can't find the .rockbox folder |
| 20:42:10 | Apostle^ | but it's on their |
| 20:42:14 | Apostle^ | and all the files are in their also |
| 20:42:25 | Mikachu | it's hidden by default |
| 20:42:37 | Apostle^ | ? |
| 20:42:43 | Apostle^ | i'm on linux, i can see it |
| 20:42:49 | Apostle^ | the ipod can't find it thought |
| 20:42:53 | Mikachu | in rockbox |
| 20:42:58 | Apostle^ | ........ |
| 20:42:59 | Apostle^ | ? |
| 20:43:10 | Mikachu | the .rockbox directory is hidden in rockbox by default |
| 20:43:26 | Mikachu | if you copy music to /Music or something, you will see it |
| 20:43:33 | Mikachu | if you change the setting to show all files, you will see .rockbox too |
| 20:43:44 | Apostle^ | okay so |
| 20:43:48 | Apostle^ | what do i need to do? |
| 20:43:53 | Mikachu | in order to do what? |
| 20:43:53 | Apostle^ | copy music to /music ? |
| 20:43:56 | Apostle^ | listen to music |
| 20:44:01 | Mikachu | put music anywhere |
| 20:44:11 | Apostle^ | it's written in itunes |
| 20:44:12 | Mikachu | you don't want to put any of your own files in .rockbox |
| 20:44:14 | Apostle^ | is that okay ? |
| 20:44:24 | Mikachu | you'll need to enable the show all files option then |
| 20:44:26 | Apostle^ | or do i need to clean it out |
| 20:44:30 | Apostle^ | okay how do i do that |
| 20:44:37 | Mikachu | look through the settings menus |
| 20:44:38 | Apostle^ | and why does .rockbox have an X on it |
| 20:44:40 | Mikachu | you'll want to do that anyway |
| 20:44:49 | Mikachu | unknown |
| 20:44:58 | Apostle^ | " |
| 20:44:59 | Apostle^ | ? |
| 20:45:52 | obo | Apostle^: you have also patched your ipods bootloader? |
| 20:46:02 | Apostle^ | yes |
| 20:46:07 | obo | okay, just checking :) |
| 20:46:09 | Mikachu | i would guess so if he's booting rockbox :) |
| 20:46:30 | Apostle^ | cool listening to a song now |
| 20:46:33 | Apostle^ | i just needed to show all files |
| 20:46:35 | obo | must have misted that line :) |
| 20:47:17 | Apostle^ | how do i get it in color? |
| 20:47:21 | Apostle^ | like the text or it doesn't do that |
| 20:47:36 | Mikachu | you can change the colors of the text and bg in the settings |
| 20:47:40 | Mikachu | you can also have a background .bmp |
| 20:47:41 | Apostle^ | and do i still need to copy music using itunes compatible stuff ? |
| 20:47:44 | Apostle^ | nice. |
| 20:47:51 | Apostle^ | can i just drag music in now? |
| 20:47:54 | Mikachu | and for the hwile playing screen, you can find themes on the wiki or make your own |
| 20:47:54 | obo | yup |
| 20:47:57 | Apostle^ | nice |
| 20:47:59 | Mikachu | you don't need itunes |
| 20:48:02 | Apostle^ | nice |
| 20:48:12 | Mikachu | if you're not going to use apple os, you can remove your ipod_control/music dir |
| 20:48:15 | essoe | apostle- if you drag it in, it wont show up when you plug it into a 360, or whatever devices read itunes types I think |
| 20:48:17 | Apostle^ | niceee |
| 20:48:21 | Mikachu | assuming you have the same music on your computer of coure |
| 20:48:27 | essoe | but it'll play on the player regardless of the paths |
| 20:48:34 | Apostle^ | essoe: i don't use any device that uses itunes |
| 20:48:39 | Apostle^ | besides the ipod :-P |
| 20:48:43 | Mikachu | what exact model do you have? |
| 20:48:47 | Apostle^ | nano 2g |
| 20:48:49 | Apostle^ | b |
| 20:48:51 | Mikachu | ah, same as me |
| 20:48:59 | essoe | apostle- I may be saying it wrong, but like a 360, or whatever that scans the itunes xml, then uses it |
| 20:49:03 | Mikachu | make sure you mount with -o utf8, and don't use the sync options |
| 20:49:05 | Mikachu | option* |
| 20:49:07 | Apostle^ | i do |
| 20:49:17 | Apostle^ | in fstab right |
| 20:49:21 | Mikachu | sync severely slows down and wears out the flash |
| 20:49:26 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 20:49:27 | Apostle^ | k |
| 20:49:52 | Apostle^ | hmm |
| 20:49:54 | Apostle^ | i like this alot |
| 20:50:01 | Mikachu | also, you'll want to boot apple os for copying files instead of the builtin disk mode |
| 20:50:06 | Mikachu | it will go a LOT faster that way |
| 20:50:09 | Apostle^ | k |
| 20:50:17 | Apostle^ | so now that i have it working |
| 20:50:19 | Mikachu | hold down menu when booting before the apple shows up etc |
| 20:50:21 | Apostle^ | what else should i check out |
| 20:50:50 | Mikachu | you could try playing doom, that's what everyone seems to want to do :P |
| 20:50:59 | Apostle^ | that works on rocks? |
| 20:51:18 | Apostle^ | that would be a + ... |
| 20:52:26 | Apostle^ | how do i get out of a plugin |
| 20:52:31 | Apostle^ | stuck in chess o.O |
| 20:52:39 | Mikachu | menu+select usually exits plugins |
| 20:52:55 | Mikachu | or brings up a menu with a Quit item |
| 20:52:59 | Apostle^ | doom doesn't work |
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| 20:53:08 | Mikachu | you would need to copy the actual game files over |
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| 20:53:41 | Apostle^ | wow this is nice |
| 20:53:43 | Apostle^ | the game files |
| 20:53:47 | Apostle^ | where do i get those |
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| 20:54:43 | Apostle^ | ahh i'm stuck in jewels :-P |
| 20:55:00 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom |
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| 20:55:13 | Apostle^ | when i hit end game in jewels nothing happens |
| 20:55:34 | Mikachu | that's a bit strange |
| 20:56:15 | Mikachu | it works fine here |
| 20:56:32 | Apostle^ | NICE |
| 20:56:34 | Apostle^ | tetris |
| 20:56:39 | Apostle^ | just what i thought ipod was missing |
| 20:56:41 | Apostle^ | oh this owns |
| 20:57:11 | essoe | where do you put the doom files? I wasnt able to get it to work.. tried /games/doom/addons |
| 20:57:24 | Apostle^ | this would be great on a video |
| 20:57:28 | Apostle^ | with a nice big screen |
| 20:57:29 | Mikachu | you put addons in addons, the main wads in /games/doom |
| 20:57:30 | obo | it is :) |
| 20:57:46 | Apostle^ | can somone email me the wads? |
| 20:57:51 | Apostle^ | i dont have doom cd anymore |
| 20:58:00 | Mikachu | there is a shareware wad there |
| 20:59:17 | Apostle^ | hrm |
| 20:59:20 | Apostle^ | how do i get out of space rocks? |
| 20:59:23 | Apostle^ | that ones tricky |
| 20:59:31 | Apostle^ | hrm got it |
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| 21:00:28 | Apostle^ | nice gonna delete that pesky itunes control |
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| 21:08:29 | * | LedByTheReaper is back |
| 21:08:59 | LedByTheReaper | Crashday is slighly iffy. |
| 21:13:32 | Apostle^ | how do i get to the |
| 21:13:38 | Apostle^ | browse files menu |
| 21:13:42 | Apostle^ | from when im playing a song |
| 21:13:42 | Mikachu | from? |
| 21:13:48 | Mikachu | middle button, short press |
| 21:13:55 | Apostle^ | ty |
| 21:14:04 | Apostle^ | this is cool beans |
| 21:14:05 | Apostle^ | to the max |
| 21:14:06 | Apostle^ | :-p |
| 21:14:30 | Apostle^ | how do i get EQ's ? |
| 21:14:43 | Mikachu | probably the sound settings menu |
| 21:14:50 | Mikachu | take your earphones out first |
| 21:14:59 | Mikachu | i had some issues with the eq recently |
| 21:15:11 | Mikachu | not sure if it was something i did, but i only got white noise |
| 21:15:23 | Apostle^ | oh it says i have no eq's |
| 21:15:29 | Apostle^ | do i need to dl the |
| 21:15:30 | Apostle^ | m |
| 21:15:35 | Mikachu | you can set the parameters manually |
| 21:15:42 | Mikachu | but you also need to select Enable EQ |
| 21:16:19 | Apostle^ | yea i did |
| 21:16:26 | Apostle^ | i just like to use a rock or jazz eq usually |
| 21:16:29 | Apostle^ | but it sounds fine without one |
| 21:17:17 | Apostle^ | now if somone asks me to use my ipod i can just say you won't know how :-P |
| 21:17:56 | Mikachu | change the language to hebrew first too |
| 21:18:02 | Apostle^ | how is battery life compared to regular |
| 21:18:04 | Apostle^ | ipod os |
| 21:18:08 | Apostle^ | i bet it's better |
| 21:18:19 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:18:20 | Mikachu | no, it's probably 60 or 70% right now |
| 21:18:29 | Mikachu | that's a wild guess, but it lasts less than apple os |
| 21:18:44 | Apostle^ | oh |
| 21:18:49 | Slasheri | lostlogic: btw, the playback is still very hard to start.. |
| 21:18:53 | Apostle^ | i never have time to listen to it for long anyway :-P |
| 21:19:06 | Apostle^ | Mikachu: how do i use a .bmp as my BG and how big should the .bmp be |
| 21:19:21 | Mikachu | Apostle^: exactly the right size, ie 176x134 (i think), and 24 bits deep |
| 21:19:28 | Mikachu | Apostle^: then put it in /.rockbox/backdrops |
| 21:19:38 | Mikachu | then long select on it and select 'use as backdrop' |
| 21:19:43 | Apostle^ | k |
| 21:19:52 | Mikachu | hm |
| 21:19:55 | Apostle^ | 176x134 lol |
| 21:20:01 | Apostle^ | i'm just gonna use a nice blue color then |
| 21:20:02 | Mikachu | that's the res of the screen |
| 21:20:06 | Apostle^ | a real image would look bad |
| 21:20:15 | Mikachu | na, it looks okay |
| 21:20:37 | Apostle^ | i think rockbox takes longer to load a song also |
| 21:20:42 | Apostle^ | but only a split second |
| 21:20:45 | Mikachu | it boots a lot faster though |
| 21:20:48 | Apostle^ | yea |
| 21:20:52 | Apostle^ | 10x as fast |
| 21:21:00 | Mikachu | if you're using cvs from today, playback is in a state of flux |
| 21:21:00 | Apostle^ | eems like it atleast |
| 21:21:10 | Apostle^ | dunno i just downloadedthe new |
| 21:21:11 | Apostle^ | os |
| 21:21:12 | Mikachu | if you want more stable, go to 3rd april's build or so |
| 21:21:19 | Apostle^ | when i change the os |
| 21:21:22 | Mikachu | maybe 4th, i forget |
| 21:21:24 | Apostle^ | do i just replace .rockbox |
| 21:21:36 | Mikachu | rockbox.ipod would be the main one to replace |
| 21:21:46 | Apostle^ | k |
| 21:21:47 | Mikachu | but you probably need to replace viewers/ and rocks/ in .rockbox too |
| 21:21:50 | Mikachu | and codecs/ |
| 21:21:52 | Apostle^ | okays :-P |
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| 21:21:56 | Apostle^ | where do i get more themes? |
| 21:22:04 | Apostle^ | sorry for all the q's, just it's new to me :-p |
| 21:22:10 | Mikachu | there's a page at the wiki, but there are only 4 themes for the nano so far |
| 21:22:16 | Apostle^ | okay |
| 21:22:22 | Apostle^ | i think i have morethen that on their though |
| 21:22:31 | Mikachu | well, with colors |
| 21:22:36 | Apostle^ | ooo |
| 21:22:38 | Apostle^ | i want colors |
| 21:22:39 | Mikachu | the ones that come with rockbox sortof suck |
| 21:22:43 | Apostle^ | they do |
| 21:23:01 | Mikachu | most of them are made for bw displays |
| 21:23:15 | Apostle^ | yea |
| 21:23:27 | Apostle^ | 176 width |
| 21:23:30 | Apostle^ | or other way around |
| 21:25:22 | pussfeller | its not that hard to port some of them] |
| 21:25:29 | Apostle^ | copy/paste files into ipod |
| 21:25:33 | Apostle^ | much better then using gtkpod |
| 21:27:37 | Apostle^ | i cant fidn any themes |
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| 21:32:18 | Lear | slasheri: you tested exit menu (to wps) with stop button? |
| 21:32:48 | Slasheri | Lear: yes, i tried that |
| 21:32:54 | Slasheri | i hope it works now as it should |
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| 21:33:31 | Lear | Looks like it should. Didn't see that solution though. :) |
| 21:33:40 | Slasheri | nice :) |
| 21:34:02 | Slasheri | yeah, i was little confused by the _PRE -definition earlier and misunderstood its meaning =) |
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| 21:38:55 | Lear | Now the question is: why only for the iriver targets? :) |
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| 21:44:51 | Slasheri | oh, i didn't think that at all :) hmm, of course it should be enabled for all targets then.. |
| 21:45:31 | Slasheri | or all targets which have the power button function as stop button also |
| 21:46:46 | Slasheri | hmm, but i am not sure which players have that functionality.. |
| 21:49:55 | Lear | Yes, maybe better to leave that to those who actually have players with suitable buttons... |
| 21:50:05 | Slasheri | yep |
| 21:50:51 | bluey | Apostel^: rsync rules :) |
| 21:51:04 | bluey | but i can't get my script working from a vfat device :S |
| 21:52:26 | Apostle^ | how do i select the backdrop again |
| 21:53:37 | Apostle^ | hmm..my ipod is frozen |
| 21:54:31 | Apostle^ | what do i do |
| 21:54:41 | bluey | reboot |
| 21:54:45 | Apostle^ | how |
| 21:54:55 | bluey | mhh |
| 21:54:56 | Apostle^ | got it |
| 21:55:05 | bluey | hold select and menu |
| 21:55:05 | Apostle^ | how do i select backdrop ? |
| 21:56:23 | | Nick BoD[Zzzz] is now known as BoD[] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) |
| 21:56:28 | BoD[] | Hello, crowd! |
| 21:56:59 | BoD[] | what is uppp |
| 21:57:30 | Apostle^ | nothing yo |
| 21:57:43 | midkay | hey BoD[] :) |
| 21:58:04 | Apostle^ | midkay: |
| 21:58:07 | Apostle^ | how do i change my bg again |
| 21:58:25 | midkay | Apostle^, hold select on a .bmp file and "set as backdrop", i think will work. |
| 21:58:36 | midkay | put it in /.rockbox/backdrops to retain it after reboots.. |
| 21:58:46 | Apostle^ | cool |
| 21:58:49 | Apostle^ | gonna get a theme now |
| 21:58:49 | Apostle^ | :-p |
| 21:59:01 | midkay | choose mine!! |
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| 21:59:09 | Apostle^ | which 1 |
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| 21:59:31 | | Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@87.193.33.76) |
| 21:59:40 | midkay | brushed_metal!! |
| 21:59:59 | essoe | I like joltamp |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:08 | essoe | I think its kinda funny it looks like a winamp skin |
| 22:00:17 | Apostle^ | midkay: how do i install a theme with the 4 folders |
| 22:00:25 | midkay | put them all in /.rockbox/ |
| 22:00:28 | Apostle^ | k |
| 22:00:36 | midkay | essoe, it's cool, but.. funny? :) |
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| 22:01:18 | essoe | midkay- I was really happy to find that one.. at somepoint going to have to try and make my own, I'm looking forward to developing some stuff for rockbox |
| 22:01:36 | Apostle^ | i like ipod vision nao |
| 22:01:39 | Apostle^ | it's the winner for me |
| 22:01:51 | midkay | essoe, that's cool |
| 22:02:06 | BHSPitLappy | vision nao? |
| 22:02:15 | Apostle^ | nano |
| 22:02:15 | BoD[] | skins rule |
| 22:02:27 | Apostle^ | one more thing where does the doomwad go |
| 22:02:30 | essoe | do you need a 5G to usion ipod vision? |
| 22:02:34 | essoe | use even |
| 22:02:55 | bluey | i think there is a nano version |
| 22:03:14 | Apostle^ | wow vision nao is pretty |
| 22:03:25 | Apostle^ | yea |
| 22:03:28 | Apostle^ | im using it on a nano |
| 22:03:43 | Apostle^ | wow it's prettier then regular ipod |
| 22:03:52 | essoe | is the album art patch hard to apply? |
| 22:04:21 | bluey | not if it's uptodate |
| 22:05:47 | Apostle^ | where does doomwad go again? |
| 22:07:11 | Apostle^ | just the calculator function is priceless :-p |
| 22:07:31 | essoe | this is probably a dumb question, but what file do I apply a patch? .. running linux, so have patch, but not sure of the syntax or what file to patch |
| 22:07:49 | Apostle^ | whats the patch do |
| 22:07:49 | Apostle^ | ? |
| 22:08:09 | essoe | one for album art, and one for scrolling margins |
| 22:08:17 | bluey | adds albumart |
| 22:08:54 | Apostle^ | guys where does doomwad go |
| 22:09:05 | bluey | patch −−binary -p0 < patch.file |
| 22:09:09 | bluey | for patching rockbox |
| 22:09:26 | Apostle^ | guys? |
| 22:10:38 | bluey | into /games/doom/addons/ |
| 22:10:39 | essoe | thanks bluey |
| 22:11:41 | Apostle^ | bluey: in rockbox or no |
| 22:11:56 | * | ender` yawns |
| 22:12:42 | bluey | in .rockbox |
| 22:14:58 | | Nick bluey is now known as bluey^awy (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-109-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:15:50 | essoe | cpp0: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 22:15:51 | essoe | cpp0: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 22:15:51 | essoe | CONVBDF |
| 22:15:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK essoe |
| 22:15:51 | essoe | Header parsed |
| 22:15:51 | essoe | CC sysfont.c |
| 22:15:52 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 22:15:52 | essoe | cc1: Invalid option `long-calls' |
| 22:15:54 | essoe | make[1]: *** [/media/mp3/2/rockbox-daily-20060403/build-dir/firmware/sysfont.o] Error 1 |
| 22:15:56 | essoe | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
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| 22:21:51 | essoe | do I need to get a special version of gcc? |
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| 22:24:17 | bluey^awy | which version do you use? |
| 22:25:06 | essoe | gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) |
| 22:25:23 | bluey^awy | for arm-elf ??? |
| 22:25:53 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 22:26:22 | essoe | I dont think I have one |
| 22:26:32 | essoe | I downloaded some install script .sh yesterday and couldnt get it to work |
| 22:26:48 | essoe | wait nm |
| 22:26:48 | essoe | arm-elf-gcc -vReading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/arm-elf/2.95.3/specs |
| 22:26:49 | essoe | gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)(ColdFire patches - 20010318 from http://fiddes.net/coldfire/)(uClinux XIP and shared lib patches from http://www.snapgear.com/) |
| 22:26:49 | essoe | 15:26:40 |
| 22:26:50 | bluey^awy | take a look at the wiki |
| 22:27:21 | bluey^awy | you need gcc 4.0.3 ( i use 4.1) for arm-elf |
| 22:27:29 | bluey^awy | at least for the ipod builds |
| 22:28:08 | bluey^awy | i'm awy now cu |
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| 22:32:57 | lostlogic | Slasheri: hard to start defines? |
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| 22:39:31 | macdonalder | is that a recent change? I think I've been using 4.0.2.... |
| 22:39:42 | macdonalder | for ipod |
| 22:39:50 | midkay | 4.0.2 is fine |
| 22:39:57 | macdonalder | k :D |
| 22:39:59 | midkay | even recommended i think.. |
| 22:40:06 | midkay | again, check the wiki to be sure. |
| 22:40:07 | lostlogic | I still use 3.4.5, I think... |
| 22:40:08 | macdonalder | yeah I just went with what was recommended |
| 22:40:18 | lostlogic | no, I lied 4.0.2 |
| 22:40:22 | midkay | lostlogic, not for ARM? hahaha |
| 22:40:22 | mtnbkr | can someone help me with extracting the apple firmware from the bootpartition.bin file with ipod_fw? docs say that apple_os.bin should be about 5MB, mine is 40BYTES. :( |
| 22:40:25 | amiconn | For arm targets, 4.0.x is recommended. |
| 22:41:40 | macdonalder | that duder who's working on the 3G builds isn't around is he? I've managed to compile and install rockbox on a 3G but I don't know enough about rockbox to debug |
| 22:41:53 | macdonalder | just kind of hoping to put my hat in the ring as a tester or something |
| 22:42:44 | lostlogic | macdonalder: haven't heard form him in a pretty long while, I don't think |
| 22:42:56 | macdonalder | hmm *shrugs* |
| 22:43:15 | macdonalder | maybe I'll get some time after school is done ;) |
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| 22:53:35 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:53:35 | * | lostlogic upgrades his build server to 4.0.3 for shits and giggles |
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| 22:55:29 | sharpe | whee |
| 22:56:12 | mtnbkr | can anyone help me in my quest to get rockbox on my iPod 2g |
| 22:56:51 | lostlogic | mtnbkr: none of the developers have 3g or older ipods |
| 22:58:08 | sharpe | lostlogic, guess what i got working... :D |
| 22:58:11 | mtnbkr | lostlogic: arg... :( |
| 22:58:16 | lostlogic | sharpe: which what? |
| 22:58:24 | sharpe | the c64 emulator |
| 22:58:36 | lostlogic | sharpe: yeah, I saw your mentoin of text display on it |
| 22:58:36 | petur | Zagor: idea for the tracker: maybe add targets such as 'iriver' and 'ipod' to the list for reports/patches that are common to all players of that platform? |
| 22:58:40 | sharpe | yeah |
| 22:58:52 | lostlogic | is this entirely your own from scratch emu? |
| 22:59:02 | sharpe | minus the cpu emulator, yeah. |
| 22:59:08 | lostlogic | cool |
| 22:59:18 | Apostle^ | hey i put the doom wad in /games/doom/addons |
| 22:59:24 | Apostle^ | but it still says not found |
| 22:59:34 | lostlogic | Apostle^: you need to have rockdoom.wad in /games/doom |
| 22:59:35 | sharpe | shouldn't the wads just be in /games/doom ? |
| 22:59:47 | midkay | sharpe, the standard doom/doom2 etc ones should.. |
| 22:59:48 | Apostle^ | lostlogic: okay |
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| 23:00:04 | midkay | Apostle^, if it's doom.wad, it should be in just /games/doom |
| 23:00:05 | sharpe | arrghh... headache |
| 23:00:08 | sharpe | constant... |
| 23:00:14 | sharpe | for the past like, five hours |
| 23:00:34 | midkay | hm. wait. wait. wait. i got it. wait. wait. wait. wait. wait. take some medicine. |
| 23:00:42 | sharpe | meh. |
| 23:00:47 | lostlogic | drugs are bad. |
| 23:01:01 | sharpe | didn't they teach you that in school? |
| 23:01:04 | midkay | lostlogic, drugs are only bad when they're not good. |
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| 23:01:47 | sharpe | midkay, that's somewhat like saying a bomb blew up because it was built poorly. |
| 23:01:48 | lostlogic | midkay: I'm special, I refuse to take pain killers unless I'm paralyzed from pain |
| 23:02:13 | Moos | indeed, drugs are good when *really* needed |
| 23:02:46 | midkay | lostlogic, of course.. everybody knows you're special from the moment they begin talking to you for the first time. |
| 23:02:54 | sharpe | and because i have a headache, it gives me the ability to bitch about things longer than i usually can |
| 23:03:06 | midkay | lostlogic, and being special is nothing to be ashamed of. |
| 23:03:07 | Moos | midkay: haha :D |
| 23:03:37 | amiconn | Haha, I'm just 'listening' to the fps test on remote |
| 23:04:17 | Apostle^ | hey i have the rockdoom.wad in games/doom |
| 23:04:22 | Apostle^ | but it still says i got no wads |
| 23:04:39 | Mikachu | do you have the game wad too? |
| 23:04:41 | Apostle^ | does /games/doom |
| 23:04:41 | Moos | amiconn: did you discovered something ? |
| 23:04:42 | Apostle^ | yea i do |
| 23:04:50 | Apostle^ | dos /games/doom go in rockbox ? |
| 23:04:54 | Apostle^ | .rockbox |
| 23:04:55 | Mikachu | no |
| 23:04:59 | Apostle^ | ohhhh |
| 23:05:01 | Apostle^ | thats the problem |
| 23:05:07 | amiconn | If you have a ticking remote, and run test_fps with boosted cpu, the ticking turns into tweeting, or trilling |
| 23:05:23 | midkay | haha. |
| 23:05:30 | | Quit tianjing_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:05:41 | amiconn | I made lcd_remote_update() more than twice as fast (without ticking reduction) |
| 23:05:46 | midkay | that would make it rather easy to write a bird_call.rock! |
| 23:05:47 | | Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:05:54 | * | Moos thanks God the remote ticking goes out when he installed Rockbox on his iriver |
| 23:05:55 | | Quit Rick (Client Quit) |
| 23:06:01 | sharpe | and the emulator works in executing basic commands |
| 23:06:28 | amiconn | Moos: The ticking is a strange issue, as it depends on both the main unit and the remote |
| 23:06:28 | sharpe | hence the PRINT "ROCKBOX C64" in the screen dump of it |
| 23:06:48 | amiconn | My H140 doesn't tick at all, but my H340 does tick, with the very same remote |
| 23:07:06 | obo | Mikachu: did you say you had some piezo code that triggered on input events? |
| 23:07:08 | Moos | amiconn: yeah, I was surprised when I heard no more ticking before the Slasheri's option |
| 23:07:17 | Moos | amiconn: uch :( |
| 23:07:20 | Mikachu | obo: yeah sort of |
| 23:07:41 | amiconn | Moos: Maybe you would again hear ticking with my super-optimised driver |
| 23:07:50 | Moos | hehe : ) |
| 23:07:52 | obo | can I beg/borrow/steal it off you? :) |
| 23:08:06 | Mikachu | http://pastebot.gentoo-se.ath.cx/paste |
| 23:08:07 | Mikachu | err |
| 23:08:09 | sharpe | super optimized driver... |
| 23:08:10 | Mikachu | http://pastebot.gentoo-se.ath.cx/3 |
| 23:08:20 | Moos | amiconn: if you want I test, let me know |
| 23:08:33 | Mikachu | obo: it sends a constant tone until you change it or call _stop |
| 23:08:46 | obo | cool - thanks |
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| 23:09:33 | amiconn | I get 126/378 fps on remote now (unboosted/boosted). The old driver managed 52/156 fps |
| 23:09:37 | Mikachu | obo: i stole it from preglow :) |
| 23:09:49 | Apostle^ | how do i acutally play the doom |
| 23:09:52 | Apostle^ | it';s just like a video |
| 23:09:52 | Moos | lostlogic: for the mp3_encoder patch, I think preglow will look at it and commit it when he'll back |
| 23:10:04 | Mikachu | Apostle^: press a button to get the menu |
| 23:10:11 | amiconn | That's w/o ticking reduction. With ticking reduction the old driver only managed 24/36.5 fps |
| 23:10:16 | Apostle^ | Mikachu: nothing works |
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| 23:10:26 | Moos | amiconn: wow |
| 23:11:14 | Apostle^ | Mikachu: yea nothing works |
| 23:11:20 | obo | Apostle^: try flicking hold on and off |
| 23:12:07 | Apostle^ | ty |
| 23:13:15 | lostlogic | Moos: I figured |
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| 23:15:59 | warthawg | what's the best environment for rockbox development on linux? do any of the ide's work ok? |
| 23:16:12 | Mikachu | any ide should work fine |
| 23:16:26 | Bger | warthawg most people use vi/emacs/kate ... |
| 23:16:34 | Bger | s/vi/vim/ |
| 23:16:58 | warthawg | yep, that's what I am using. but was curious if ajunta would work |
| 23:17:12 | sharpe | use a very tiny magnet attached to tweasers and write the bits on the hard disk yourself |
| 23:17:33 | warthawg | sharpe: it's so hard to get those things lined up right |
| 23:18:05 | sharpe | especially if you start going in the opposite direction the disk spins |
| 23:18:20 | lostlogic | warthawg: it would be a rare project where the ide you use to work on it matters |
| 23:18:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:20:00 | Mikachu | sharpe: that will be really hard with those new perpendicular storage drives |
| 23:20:08 | sharpe | yep |
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| 23:29:07 | BHSPitLappy | perpendicular all the way! |
| 23:30:17 | sharpe | "Parents should regularly 'google' their child's name to see what pops up. Don't be afraid to use filtering software. Even if you don't have a computer at home, set some rules. Your child will find access to a computer in places such as school, a friend's house, and the local library." |
| 23:30:50 | sharpe | "Learn how to examine your Web browser's 'History' files or cache." |
| 23:30:55 | Mikachu | they would find out i was a hockey playre |
| 23:31:12 | Mikachu | and and a professor in stockholm |
| 23:31:22 | petur | hehe |
| 23:31:29 | sharpe | "Teach your child to come up with an alias, or fake name to use on the web. If they are being harassed, they will have a way of vacating the situation." |
| 23:31:39 | goffa_ | i looked it up once.. i was a midget wrestler who wasn't very good |
| 23:31:45 | goffa_ | and a race car driver |
| 23:32:00 | goffa_ | and found some guy in maryland that does the same job that i do |
| 23:32:01 | sharpe | i'm a doctor with a phd and bachelor of science degree in sport exercises. |
| 23:32:12 | sharpe | also someone in tenessee |
| 23:32:30 | sharpe | and have a bridge named after me |
| 23:32:35 | goffa_ | lol... and i contributed money to bargo energy co |
| 23:32:38 | sharpe | which is ironically, my name. |
| 23:32:52 | BHSPitLappy | I'm a city coucilmember with a DUI. |
| 23:33:01 | Mikachu | and apparently i contributed to some project called rockbox |
| 23:33:06 | | Part overflow-1 ("Leaving") |
| 23:33:13 | BHSPitLappy | sharpe: lets not forget a marker |
| 23:33:15 | goffa_ | he he he.. that couldn't be true |
| 23:33:21 | goffa_ | Mikachu: |
| 23:33:31 | sharpe | this information coming from a brochure my local school system has provided me. |
| 23:33:47 | sharpe | "Positive aspects to blogging" |
| 23:33:52 | sharpe | "Blodding tips for teens" |
| 23:34:00 | BHSPitLappy | *Bleeding |
| 23:34:06 | sharpe | blogging |
| 23:34:19 | Mikachu | web logging! |
| 23:34:23 | sharpe | teehee! |
| 23:34:25 | BHSPitLappy | "Rember, go across the river, not down it" |
| 23:34:30 | Mikachu | teeheenessee |
| 23:34:31 | BHSPitLappy | s/Rember/Remember |
| 23:34:32 | Apostle^ | hmm i set a dif shoot key in doom and now i have no shoot |
| 23:34:33 | Apostle^ | :-P |
| 23:34:44 | goffa_ | damn.. i didn't think tim goff was that common of a name |
| 23:34:45 | BHSPitLappy | s|s/Rember/Remember|s/Remember/Remember/| |
| 23:34:45 | Mikachu | BHSPitLappy: isn't it 'go across the road, not down the street'? |
| 23:34:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | The second entry when I google my name is me at rockbox |
| 23:35:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | The first is some expert of all things Titanic |
| 23:35:05 | sharpe | heh |
| 23:35:09 | BHSPitLappy | Mikachu: What??? |
| 23:35:10 | * | BHSPitLappy bleeds to death |
| 23:35:23 | Mikachu | well, there are probably a few variations |
| 23:35:45 | BHSPitLappy | I'm a jeweler and some guy with a DUI |
| 23:36:26 | sharpe | i'm a doctor and someone with a portfolio |
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| 23:36:41 | Mikachu | so if i google for all those things, can i figure out your name? |
| 23:36:46 | goffa_ | ha ha ha |
| 23:36:49 | goffa_ | image search |
| 23:37:03 | Mikachu | goffa_: i always read "ha" with spaces between as very sarcastic |
| 23:37:56 | sharpe | hmm... image search, nothing dealing with me, except for picture of bridges. |
| 23:38:12 | goffa_ | usually it is Mikachu ... other times its the same as lol |
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| 23:38:38 | goffa_ | pic of me about half way down :) http://www.wweek.com/editorial/2941/4217/ |
| 23:39:55 | sharpe | apparantly you are experienced in the way of pipe bombs. |
| 23:40:33 | goffa_ | lol.. yup... |
| 23:40:45 | goffa_ | it would appear that way |
| 23:40:51 | | Nick BoD[] is now known as BoD[away] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) |
| 23:41:10 | goffa_ | just hope my parents don't find out |
| 23:41:36 | sharpe | everything that reference my name in google, is either a bridge, or rockbox |
| 23:42:44 | | Join linuxmatt [0] (n=icechat5@dialup-4.228.183.12.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) |
| 23:43:14 | Apostle^ | what are the voice files |
| 23:43:23 | Mikachu | heh, first hit that's actually me is from the zsh dev list |
| 23:43:38 | Mikachu | and next one is rockbox heh |
| 23:43:50 | linuxmatt | hello |
| 23:44:03 | | Quit Bger ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") |
| 23:44:24 | linuxmatt | I need a bit of help with the bootloader |
| 23:44:24 | Mikachu | Apostle^: files with voices |
| 23:44:42 | linuxstb | linuxmatt: Which bootloader? |
| 23:44:48 | linuxmatt | video |
| 23:44:55 | Apostle^ | wih rockboy |
| 23:44:56 | Mikachu | oh no, impossible tab completing |
| 23:45:00 | Apostle^ | i can play gameboy games? |
| 23:45:05 | goffa_ | lol... http://www.walkonwheels.com.au/images/products/elecchairs/Goffa.jpg |
| 23:45:07 | Mikachu | not on ipods |
| 23:45:11 | Apostle^ | damn |
| 23:45:20 | Mikachu | well, not on the nano i think |
| 23:45:36 | linuxstb | linuxmatt: What's the problem? |
| 23:45:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxmatt: What problem are you having, as "I need a bit of help" stops a bit short of describing where things go wrong. :) |
| 23:45:41 | sharpe | did i tell anyone about the 20q rockbox plugin i had thought of? |
| 23:45:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | A 20q rockbox plugin would rock |
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| 23:46:09 | Apostle^ | 20q ? |
| 23:46:17 | Maglor_equaleft | hya people |
| 23:46:32 | * | linuxstb sees 79 bugs in the bug tracker and 3 weeks until release... |
| 23:46:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apostle^: At least I think he means "20 questions" |
| 23:46:55 | | Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:47:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: That's less than 4 a day. |
| 23:47:24 | sharpe | yeah, i meant that |
| 23:47:25 | linuxmatt | I followed the directions. and rockbox works great, but I can't get back into the apple firmware. I tried holding menu on boot as explained in the wiki, but it still boots to rockbox |
| 23:47:35 | Mikachu | linuxstb: closing spree! |
| 23:47:35 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: No problem then... :) |
| 23:47:47 | Mikachu | linuxmatt: try harder |
| 23:48:00 | Mikachu | linuxmatt: you have to release menu after you press it to boot, then hold it down again |
| 23:48:19 | linuxmatt | ok i'll try that |
| 23:48:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxmatt: Yeah, you need to press it again almost immediately after pressing menu to turn on the player. Very early. |
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| 23:50:35 | linuxmatt | still booting rockbox |
| 23:50:44 | Mikachu | you have to not wiggle your finger either |
| 23:50:49 | Apostle^ | lol |
| 23:50:54 | | Quit PaulJ (".") |
| 23:50:57 | Mikachu | the scroll events will override the pressed button usually |
| 23:51:11 | linuxmatt | the disk mode and diagnostics mode still work |
| 23:51:34 | Mikachu | yeah they are easier to trigger |
| 23:51:43 | | Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:51:51 | linuxmatt | k i got it thanks |
| 23:52:03 | Apostle^ | rockbox is phat |
| 23:52:07 | Apostle^ | i wonder how good ipodlinux is |
| 23:52:33 | linuxmatt | is there a way to make it default to origional firmware and use keypress to boot rockbox? |
| 23:53:16 | Mikachu | if you really wanted |
| 23:53:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not the Rockbox bootloader. It's designed for people who actually intend to use Rockbox for its stated purpose. If you want to though, you could use iPodLinux's Loader2 |
| 23:54:00 | Apostle^ | is ipodlinux good, how does it compare to rockbox ? |
| 23:54:31 | Mikachu | it's almost orthogonal to rockbox |
| 23:54:43 | linuxmatt | heh 6the instructions for installing linux on the 5g are so confusing, not officially supported, so i haven't tried it |
| 23:54:48 | Apostle^ | lol and that word means? |
| 23:54:57 | Mikachu | you'll know when you get older ;) |
| 23:55:05 | Mikachu | it means they don't share many things |
| 23:55:07 | linuxmatt | i think it has something to do with feet |
| 23:55:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: Thanks for killing those posts. :) |
| 23:55:34 | Bagder | thanks for pointing it out |
| 23:55:38 | sharpe | i never realize i had this part of code dealing with a negative number... |
| 23:55:53 | Mikachu | Bagder: did you see the thing i said earlier about rockbox-sf on /mail? |
| 23:56:03 | Bagder | Mikachu: no, what about it? |
| 23:56:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apostle^: At right angles to each other. Going in different directions. Rockbox is pretty focused on music features. Linux is spread out, and designed to do "stuff" |
| 23:56:22 | Bagder | oh, it says sourceforge |
| 23:56:29 | Mikachu | Bagder: well, there's no such mailing list and the link is broken |
| 23:56:38 | Mikachu | it's intended for sf bug mail |
| 23:56:38 | Apostle^ | Paul_The_Nerd: i like stuff :-P |
| 23:56:51 | Bagder | Mikachu: the lists is still there and used |
| 23:56:53 | Bagder | list |
| 23:56:56 | Mikachu | Bagder: hm |
| 23:57:01 | Bagder | for flyspray mail |
| 23:57:09 | Mikachu | okay |
| 23:57:14 | Mikachu | the broken archive link confused me then |
| 23:57:28 | Bagder | yeah, the archive link is wrong |
| 23:57:30 | Mikachu | you could update the blurb if you're bored though |
| 23:57:44 | Bagder | I'll do that |
| 23:58:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apostle^: Well, it has games and various programs, but it's really aimed at making the iPod into something other than a music player. |
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