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00:01:13 | * | amiconn is scared by the number of open bugs :/ |
00:01:52 | petur | those for 3.0 are going down :) |
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00:02:34 | amiconn | Hmm, but I think a number of the unspecified bugs should really be fixed before 3.0 as well |
00:02:57 | * | amiconn just closed a bug marked as due in 3.1 |
00:03:17 | amiconn | This was fixed weeks ago, just not closed |
00:04:49 | petur | recording buffer with the voice buffer substracted gives about 5 seconds less before flush |
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00:10:28 | petur | amiconn: the only thing talk_init does for hwcodec is call reset_state, which only resets some vars. So no harm there I think |
00:13:32 | amiconn | That's not true. It also calls load_voicefile(), which needs the audiobuffer being initialised |
00:14:38 | petur | I was under the impression that audiobuffer is fixed by the linker? |
00:14:57 | petur | or do you mean 'filled with zero'? |
00:15:19 | amiconn | Btw, talk_init calls load_voicefile() on swcodec as well |
00:15:39 | amiconn | 'audiobuffer' is determined at link time, but 'audiobuf' is variable |
00:16:01 | petur | ahum sorry ;) |
00:16:26 | amiconn | It is set to 'audiobuffer' by buffer_init(), then buffer_alloc() allows taking ram from the buffer _before_ audio_init() |
00:17:44 | amiconn | Okay, that means you can put talk_init() before audio_init, as long as there's no other init inbetween that uses buffer_alloc() |
00:18:23 | amiconn | Perhaps talk_init() should use buffer_alloc() on swcodec to set the voice buffer aside? |
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00:18:53 | amiconn | That sounds like a more straightforward approach than doing it in the audio code |
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00:24:17 | OnkelJonas | Ahhh... windows XP formatting makes a logical partition - Rockbox wants a primary :) |
00:24:49 | Mikachu | you can make primary in windows too, but maybe you have to know what you're doing ;) |
00:25:05 | BHSPitMonkey | did you use the disk management util? |
00:25:16 | BHSPitMonkey | or just the My Computer, right-click util |
00:25:42 | OnkelJonas | let me refrase that - windows XP formatting *by default* makes a logical partition |
00:25:46 | * | amiconn wonders why the buffers are allocated in such a weird way in playback.c |
00:25:51 | OnkelJonas | my comp, right click |
00:26:13 | Mikachu | OnkelJonas: right click on my computer, manage, disk management, and from there you can do more fun thnigs |
00:26:58 | OnkelJonas | I know... but when you have no clue that an extended partition can be a problem, the option to change it doesn't really matter |
00:27:25 | BHSPitMonkey | well now you do. |
00:27:35 | Mikachu | that's true |
00:27:53 | OnkelJonas | yea... only took me 3 hours :D |
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00:34:20 | petur | amiconn: if you select a new language, shouldn't audio and recording be re-initialized? As the size of the voice file may have changed... |
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00:35:31 | petur | lee-quit |
00:35:55 | markun | amiconn: I'll look it up tomorrow |
00:36:30 | amiconn | petur: Afaik this is done for playback. That's the reason why a .cfg selecting a new language stops playback |
00:37:01 | amiconn | For recording, it's not absolutely necessary. You cannot select a new language while recording |
00:37:58 | amiconn | On hwcodec, all this is of course unnecessary |
00:38:01 | petur | bah, my first score :( |
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00:38:54 | ashridah | how working is rockbox's playback code atm? :) |
00:39:21 | petur | wtf, I didn't get that warning when building here :( |
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00:40:56 | webguest70 | hello, I was wondering if I could get some help for just a minute |
00:41:34 | webguest70 | I'm experimenting with id3v2.4 tags on my Archos Recorder, and the tag info doesn't seem to be displaying |
00:41:47 | webguest70 | (with latest stable Rockbox) |
00:42:11 | webguest70 | I've been searching the Rockbox site and haven't found any information concerning v2.4 tags so far |
00:42:37 | petur | amiconn: what would be an allowed way to pass the size of the talk buffer to the init of pcm_recording? |
00:43:07 | petur | firmware shouldn't call software, right? |
00:43:10 | BHSPitMonkey | webguest70, have you looked at that part of the code? |
00:44:04 | webguest70 | I was wondering if my custom WPS was bad or something |
00:44:14 | webguest70 | What code of what, exactly? |
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00:45:40 | webguest96 | what is the date for V3.0 release ? |
00:45:59 | Mikachu | if all goes well, 16th or 15th may iirc |
00:46:07 | webguest96 | I dont find the info on the web site anywhere |
00:46:23 | Mikachu | look at the mailing list archives |
00:46:45 | webguest96 | any chance of as but wiki home page would be nicer no ? |
00:47:06 | webguest96 | that is pure gibberish, ignore please |
00:47:54 | webguest96 | what I wanted to say was, perhaps it could be put up on the wiki's home page |
00:47:55 | Mikachu | there is http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseTodo , but it seems to be not up-to-date |
00:48:31 | webguest96 | thats what I mean, the new release date should be reflected there perhaps, |
00:50:36 | Mikachu | that's not an error message |
00:50:55 | Genre9mp3 | yes...it just stop responding there... |
00:50:58 | Mikachu | ah |
00:50:59 | Mikachu | no idea then |
00:51:04 | Genre9mp3 | it stucks eternaly |
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00:51:30 | scott666 | is there any speculation on when an official version supporting the ipods will be out? |
00:51:41 | ashridah | weird. is pastebin.com down? |
00:51:47 | Mikachu | that page a few lines up optimistically claims november 2006 |
00:52:14 | Mikachu | ashridah: heh, seems like it, but it worked 20 seconds ago |
00:52:29 | ashridah | there we go |
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00:55:44 | petur | amiconn? |
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00:56:56 | webguest70 | anything else about id3v2.4 support on Rockbox? |
00:57:07 | webguest70 | My WPS simply seems not to get the id3 info |
00:57:29 | dpassen1 | what program is writing the tags? |
00:57:35 | webguest70 | new foobar2000 |
00:57:41 | webguest70 | 0.9.1 |
00:57:56 | dpassen1 | thats what i use |
00:58:39 | webguest70 | In the older version, 0.8.3, I tagged MP3s with APEv2 and id3v1.1, and that was fine. |
00:58:46 | dpassen1 | I had been thinking the tags show up, since in the Show ID3 Info I can see ReplayGain information |
00:59:35 | webguest70 | Then I noticed that there was a newer foobar2000 and that it tagged with id32.4 by default |
00:59:45 | webguest70 | And I wanted to see how that worked with Rockbox |
00:59:57 | Mikachu | just use ogg instead |
00:59:58 | * | Mikachu ducks |
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01:00:03 | dpassen1 | If you host a small file, I'll check it out |
01:00:07 | webguest70 | I would love too |
01:00:12 | dpassen1 | I'm using a slightly old build of Rockbox |
01:00:13 | webguest70 | to* (use OGG) |
01:01:20 | webguest70 | Yes, I am still running a Recorder 20 (version 1) |
01:01:53 | webguest70 | I am going to use it until it won't work anymore, haha |
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01:03:19 | webguest70 | Well, the "Show ID3 Info" dialog only detects the tracknumber, and things like the length and the bitrate. Nothing else is displayed. |
01:03:48 | dpassen1 | Its gonna be hard to diagnose without an example file, I'm afraid. |
01:03:58 | Mikachu | i am pretty certain rockbox is supposed to support id3v2.4 |
01:04:00 | webguest70 | okay, one minute |
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01:05:29 | petur | hmmm... voice doesn't eat itself anymore since I moved the init calls around |
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01:10:24 | Genre9mp3 | OK...after a system reboot now I get a "../build/firmware/dep-firmware:184: *** missing separator" error |
01:10:46 | Genre9mp3 | what's that? |
01:16:30 | webguest70 | okay, I have a small MP3 ready... |
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01:22:53 | webguest70 | ok, dpessen1, the url is http://h1.ripway.com/ns5/test3.mp3 |
01:23:09 | webguest70 | I tried to PM you but apparently it was blocked, haha |
01:23:32 | petur | you need to be registered to send PM |
01:23:47 | webguest70 | I noticed that in the "Status," oops |
01:25:52 | webguest70 | dpassen1 * |
01:26:10 | webguest70 | I am typing particularly poorly today. :P |
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01:31:13 | petur | aaargh |
01:33:06 | Moos | same score :( |
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01:37:51 | bleaked | i'm sorry that this question is not specifically rockbox-related, but i thought i might probe some of your minds.. for some reason my ipod nano will not allow me to transfer songs onto it, or even delete any files off of it.. i use the kpod kioslave to automount it, then amarok to transfer the songs through it's VFAT interface. i have also tried transferring files via the console, and yes, even as root, and it still does not allow me. |
01:38:31 | bleaked | the error says that it's a read-only file system. |
01:38:52 | bleaked | so, i thought the kioslave was mounting it ro |
01:39:04 | bleaked | so i manually mounted it, and still the same thing. |
01:39:08 | bleaked | and i'm puzzled |
01:39:16 | bleaked | and i feel like i'm missing the obvious or something. |
01:39:35 | bleaked | does anyone have any suggestions? |
01:41:58 | bleaked | when mounting a vfat device, does one have to specifically mount it as read/write? i have not tried that since i've never needed to do that with any device in the past. |
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01:42:31 | * | petur has no idea |
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01:57:50 | petur | phew no more red builds |
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02:05:42 | rockboy | hi! My friend has a nano and i was wondering if there's anyone to port that for nano as well |
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02:06:16 | scott666 | AFAIK there's already a port working for the Nano |
02:06:26 | rockboy | ??????????????????????? |
02:06:39 | rockboy | really? |
02:06:47 | scott666 | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
02:06:54 | Mikachu | scott666: rockboy, not rockbox |
02:07:17 | scott666 | ah |
02:07:26 | scott666 | sorry, didnt read his nick |
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02:07:52 | romanos_melodos | hahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahaah |
02:07:54 | romanos_melodos | :P |
02:08:35 | romanos_melodos | u knew that it was me mikachu didn't u... |
02:09:38 | romanos_melodos | well , i've installed ipl on my nano and it's a piece of shit |
02:10:00 | Mikachu | i had an inkling! |
02:10:26 | romanos_melodos | it took me about an hour to find a way of getting the ipl loader and using rockbox and ipl |
02:10:33 | Mikachu | you seem to not understand basic netiquette, so i won't answer any more of your questions |
02:11:06 | romanos_melodos | o common |
02:11:15 | romanos_melodos | it's not bad having fun sometimes |
02:11:36 | romanos_melodos | except if this place is just for robotic questions and answers |
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02:14:14 | romanos_melodos | sas prizw ta arxidia, as we say in greek |
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02:14:29 | romanos_melodos | or sas prisw ta arhidia |
02:15:55 | romanos_melodos | ok.. i'm gonna shut up from now on.. |
02:17:37 | mzilikazi | ipod 4g, followed the directions for installing from linux, all seemed to go well but after Write the new boot partition image back to the iPod, the ipod still says "do not disconnect" but the ipod is not mounted, disconnect anyway? |
02:19:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Probably |
02:19:25 | Mikachu | mzilikazi: eject |
02:19:41 | Mikachu | eg "eject /dev/sda" |
02:19:41 | romanos_melodos | cross your fingers |
02:20:20 | biffhero | mzilikazi: can you "eject /dev/sda" ? |
02:20:34 | mzilikazi | that works |
02:22:32 | romanos_melodos | i have back-uped all my files , but it seems that it takes ages to get them back to my root dir. Can i just make a rar of them, get the rar in my root and then unzipp them there? |
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02:23:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I imagine that'll take longer. |
02:23:47 | romanos_melodos | why is that? |
02:23:56 | romanos_melodos | the rar will be smaller.. |
02:24:09 | romanos_melodos | u mean the unzip process? |
02:24:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Lessee... A) Write all the files to the disk. B) Write a rar to the disk. Then read the rar, extract it, and then while extracting, write all the files to the disk. |
02:24:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Notice how B has A in it. |
02:25:09 | mzilikazi | so after writing the new boot partition w/ rockboot.bin, reboot, unzip daily build to root dir of ipod, it should look like this? |
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02:25:13 | mzilikazi | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 1979-12-31 23:00 Calendars |
02:25:13 | mzilikazi | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 1979-12-31 23:00 Contacts |
02:25:13 | mzilikazi | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2009-04-22 13:24 iPod_Control |
02:25:13 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK mzilikazi |
02:25:13 | mzilikazi | drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 4096 2006-04-29 22:34 .rockbox |
02:25:13 | mzilikazi | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 345040 2006-04-29 22:32 rockbox.ipod |
02:25:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
02:25:58 | Mikachu | except you should mount it as your user probably |
02:26:50 | romanos_melodos | it's really absurd that it takes that long for just copying .bmp files .. well they're big |
02:27:10 | romanos_melodos | what's a bitmap doing in rockbox anyway? |
02:27:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | romanos_melodos: Those are parts of the WPSes. |
02:27:34 | romanos_melodos | oh ok |
02:27:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | romanos_melodos: Also, if you boot into the Retail firmware, and use the disk mode there, file transfers tend to be faster. |
02:28:16 | romanos_melodos | hmm |
02:28:32 | romanos_melodos | i'll do that next time as am about to finish |
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02:30:57 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, although they seem noticeably faster, considering the time it takes to boot into retail firmware (like 15s on my 5G) it's almost not worth it.. |
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02:31:30 | romanos_melodos | 15s? |
02:31:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Well, on the Nano retail boots notably more quickly, and a transfer of the full .rockbox folder can take a time somewhere in the *minutes* |
02:31:48 | romanos_melodos | yeah |
02:31:59 | romanos_melodos | it should take about 5s to boot |
02:32:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: The Nano has a somewhat crippled disk mode, with incredibly horrible transfers. |
02:32:16 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah, nano's a bit different then :) hw diskmode .zip transfer only takes about 45 seconds for me, and booting to the retailos would shorten that but it basically negates that due to the slow boot time. |
02:32:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Yeah, I happened to know that romanos_melodos there had a Nano as I saw him mention it earlier. :) |
02:33:13 | romanos_melodos | rockboy on nano :P |
02:33:15 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, aha :) interesting that it's much slower.. |
02:33:42 | midkay | romanos_melodos, i knew you had a nano (or if i had thought about it for a few seconds). i wasn't aware, however, that the nano was god-awful slow in the HW diskmode. |
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02:34:34 | romanos_melodos | my gosh |
02:34:45 | mzilikazi | hmm looks like i hosed it up somehow, on reboot i get the apple logo then a folder w/ an exclaimation point, holding SELECT & PLAY down doesn't want to go to disk mode |
02:35:03 | mzilikazi | nor will it boot into apple firmware |
02:35:06 | midkay | select+play _always_ works. |
02:35:11 | midkay | you just need to do it at the right time. |
02:35:21 | midkay | select+menu to reboot, select+play immediately after the LCD clears. |
02:35:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: Once you're at that screen, it's too late for Select+Play. You need to hold Menu+Select until the screen clears, and then as soon as you see the apple logo release them for Select+Play |
02:36:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or yeah, what midkay said |
02:36:12 | midkay | :) |
02:36:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I'm building a fresh Nano build anyway. I'll watch the actual time in disk mode and let you know. (My build is modified to reboot into Retail on USB insert for obvious reasons, but I'll force a disk mode 'n try it out.) |
02:37:10 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, cool, i'd like to hear |
02:37:28 | romanos_melodos | r u bulding a fresh nano build? consider about getting rockboy on that release? :P |
02:37:43 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
02:37:43 | * | midkay laughs hysterically |
02:37:52 | * | Paul_The_Nerd sighs |
02:37:54 | midkay | not-april fools! |
02:37:55 | mzilikazi | the ipod won't stay powered on, instad it shuts off by itself so it doesn't ever actually reboot |
02:38:04 | midkay | oh. wait. |
02:38:07 | midkay | still april here. |
02:38:14 | romanos_melodos | :P |
02:38:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: Just hold keep holding menu+play and I guarantee it'll eventually reboot. Don't let go until you see an Apple Logo. |
02:38:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: Unless the battery is dead. |
02:38:57 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, wasn't the nano LCD just like 8 pixels too small for gameboy? |
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02:39:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I think it's 16. |
02:39:27 | midkay | damn.. |
02:39:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
02:40:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | It'll be better than the H120 was though |
02:40:44 | midkay | i was going to say it might be worth just cutting the display off to shut all these people up, until code is put in to resize.. |
02:41:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Well the problem is that all the colour drawing routines assume that the screen is at least able to do fullscreen. |
02:41:39 | scott666 | does rockboy work on the 5G ipod? |
02:41:43 | midkay | fullscreen 'mode'? |
02:41:51 | midkay | scott666, yes, but it's hardly usable on iPods. |
02:41:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: As in, 1 pixel per pixel scaling. |
02:41:52 | mzilikazi | i think i need to run thru the install process again, just start over or put apple firmware back on first? |
02:42:01 | scott666 | yeah, thats what im experiencing |
02:42:09 | scott666 | theres no A or B button mapped |
02:42:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: To me "Fullscreen" is "It shows the full screen" not "It fills the full screen." Sorry. =/ |
02:42:27 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, gotcha.. argh. |
02:42:44 | midkay | scott666, right. if you want to use A or B you kind of have to remap the buttons each time or something. |
02:42:54 | midkay | i didn't play with it long enough to get anywhere |
02:43:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: Well that depends. Did you keep the *original* bootpartition.bin. Usually the problem you're having is if you already started again halfway through, or if you did a step wrong. But that depends, does it show the Rockbox bootloader at all while trying to boot? |
02:43:21 | TxdoHawk | I can't imagine why everybody wants Doom and Rockboy on their iPod. Now, Sokoban, that I can get behind. |
02:43:23 | scott666 | the ROMs i downloaded are in japaneses anyway |
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02:43:26 | scott666 | heh |
02:43:31 | mzilikazi | Paul_The_Nerd: no rockbox boot loader |
02:43:34 | scott666 | Doom is playable |
02:43:48 | mzilikazi | i do have the original bootpartition.bin |
02:43:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Copying now |
02:44:01 | midkay | doom is fine for me.. |
02:44:05 | Mikachu | TxdoHawk: sokoban already works fine i think |
02:44:06 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, k :) |
02:44:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: Okay, then you should restart from the step immediately after extracting bootpartition.bin. Now, it was a completely clean one right (no iPodlinux or anything else already installed when you extracted it?) |
02:45:02 | mzilikazi | some time ago i did install ipodlinux but it was since removed |
02:45:11 | TxdoHawk | Yeah, that's why I brought it up. That kind of gameplay seems a lot more suited to the control set of an mp3 player. |
02:45:22 | TxdoHawk | Now mind you, I own a DS so I'm a little biased. |
02:45:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I feel anything where the game is not proactive against you. |
02:45:28 | Mikachu | i'm on level 6 or something on doom |
02:45:41 | mzilikazi | not sure how i removed ipodlinux tho... |
02:45:53 | Mikachu | TxdoHawk: doom is mostly for the wow factor |
02:46:06 | TxdoHawk | Indeed. |
02:46:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: Well, you need a completely clean bootpartition (as in, factory condition. What you'd get after a restore with the utility.) |
02:46:25 | mzilikazi | Paul_The_Nerd: hmm does tha mena booting windows or osx? |
02:46:26 | romanos_melodos | what the heck? my rockbox files need 70 minutes?? |
02:46:29 | mzilikazi | mean |
02:46:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: Windows |
02:46:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | romanos_melodos: I told you to copy in the Retail firmware's disk mode. |
02:46:55 | mzilikazi | oh of course fat32 |
02:47:02 | mzilikazi | hmmm where to find a windows box...... |
02:47:12 | romanos_melodos | ok i'll try it asap |
02:47:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | mzilikazi: There are instructions in the Wiki for preparing a Fat32 ipod on an OSX system, but it depends upon you having one of the specific models we have files prepared for (I don't remember which) |
02:47:39 | Mikachu | mzilikazi: you didn't save the original boot partition file you extracted when you installed ipl? |
02:48:14 | romanos_melodos | thanx paul |
02:48:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: And done. Give or take ~10 seconds. |
02:48:23 | romanos_melodos | why the heck is that happening any way?> |
02:48:24 | midkay | jesus christ.. |
02:48:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Yeah. I toldja it was slow. And that was *just* rockbox.ipod and the stock contents of the .rockbox folder, and one additional codec. |
02:48:57 | midkay | i wonder why that is |
02:49:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Clearly Apple hates me, and wants to spite me at every turn. |
02:49:38 | mzilikazi | Mikachu: well i installed ipodlinux probably a year ago but never i use the ipod since it could not play ogg files |
02:49:38 | romanos_melodos | are u gonna deal with that patch nerd? |
02:49:52 | romanos_melodos | i mean with the file transfer in nano |
02:49:57 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, hahaha |
02:50:01 | mzilikazi | so the ipod was a decorative item only :) |
02:50:14 | mzilikazi | hmm windows in vmware maybe? |
02:50:34 | Mikachu | why wouldn't the restore work on a mac? |
02:50:42 | Mikachu | does it autamatically make it hfs then? |
02:50:46 | mzilikazi | i don't have a mac |
02:50:51 | Mikachu | right |
02:50:58 | mzilikazi | i'm poor :) |
02:51:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | romanos_melodos: The patch wasn't written by me. The developers seem to currently prefer the disk mode as it is, even on Nano. It'd be *really* easy to modify the patch to just happen on Nano (right now the patch also affects 4G and one other if I recall) but last time it was discussed it was tossed out. |
02:51:26 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, may i ask, what patch? |
02:51:37 | Mikachu | to boot retail os instead of emergency disk mode, i presume |
02:51:37 | mzilikazi | ok thanks for the help so far, must get this thing back to factory methinks |
02:51:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: The "Boot RetailOS instead of Disk Mode on USB insert" one, I assume. |
02:52:07 | Mikachu | i put it in my menu, and disabled the trigger on usb cable |
02:52:14 | Mikachu | but many would say i'm crazy |
02:52:19 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah |
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02:52:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Power down *really* needs to be in Menu, just so that new users aren't *completely* lost, since apparently none of them even imagine such a thing as a manual could exist. |
02:53:01 | Mikachu | heh |
02:53:15 | Mikachu | i have both 'reboot to apple' and 'shut down' |
02:53:25 | Mikachu | i'm no fan of sitting around holding buttons down for 10 seconds |
02:53:45 | midkay | i would also like that.. takes so long to shut down my 5G during playback.. |
02:54:01 | Mikachu | i even managed to convince retailos to reboot to rockbox when i unplug the usb cable, so i don't have to select+menu it |
02:54:01 | midkay | hold play, takes a second or two to fade out and actually stop, then another 3-4 to actually trigger shutdown.. |
02:54:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: How did you manage that? |
02:54:28 | Mikachu | #!/bin/sh |
02:54:28 | Mikachu | test -b /dev/sda1 && ( echo -n '{' > /dev/sda1 |
02:54:28 | Mikachu | eject /dev/sda ) |
02:55:35 | Mikachu | well, it reboots with the cable still in after it's done unmounting |
02:55:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
02:56:25 | Mikachu | so it sort of depends on rockbox not booting back to retailos when the cable is in, unless you're fast |
02:56:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
02:56:32 | Mikachu | but i like it better this way |
02:56:57 | Mikachu | only problem is it doesn't do a proper shutdown when rebooting from rockbox to apple |
02:56:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only problem I have with my current way anyway is that RetailOS always rebuilds those crazy folders and crap |
02:57:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hell, it rebuild my ipod control folder which is 20mb for *no apparent reason* |
02:57:23 | Mikachu | hm? |
02:57:27 | Mikachu | my ipod_control is 136K |
02:58:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm |
02:58:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually it's a residual file from when iTunes was still on my system it looks like |
02:58:39 | Mikachu | and i don't get any of the others |
02:58:45 | Mikachu | i actually use /Notes for notes |
02:58:50 | Mikachu | so i don't know if that would get created |
02:58:59 | Mikachu | it is 100x more useful when you can actually WRITE notes in it |
02:59:09 | romanos_melodos | is that possible mikachu? |
02:59:18 | Mikachu | no, i sit here and lie just for the heck of it |
02:59:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's the whole purpose of the text editor porogram. |
02:59:31 | romanos_melodos | using an already apple folder for rockbox |
02:59:47 | Mikachu | it's just a dir with text files, nothing horrible is going to happen |
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03:00:01 | Mikachu | oh and that reminds me of how stupid apple os is |
03:00:13 | Mikachu | it makes assumptions about file encodings based on what LANGUAGE you have selected |
03:00:17 | romanos_melodos | well , it's not stupid |
03:00:29 | romanos_melodos | it's purpose it to get some money to apple |
03:01:04 | romanos_melodos | and they really make it by using itunes |
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03:01:10 | Mikachu | it is stupid enough for just that reason, but there are probably others too |
03:01:25 | Mikachu | and i'm not sure what you're on about |
03:01:51 | nudelyn | without knowing the language the file was encoded in you probably have to make some assumptions based on the player's language |
03:02:24 | nudelyn | e.g mappings to capital letters, filtering out different culture's versions of "the" when sorting, etc. |
03:02:29 | romanos_melodos | i'm just saying that "itunes" is a really bombastic way to attract people |
03:03:14 | romanos_melodos | and bring apple some money |
03:03:24 | Mikachu | nudelyn: only there is no way to know what encoding it expects, you have to guess, and none of them seem to be utf-8 |
03:03:28 | romanos_melodos | in that way, apple's software was well established |
03:04:46 | romanos_melodos | ipl loader is kinda dodgy btw |
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03:05:20 | romanos_melodos | i spend some time been through the procedure of getting it inside nano |
03:05:32 | romanos_melodos | but i think i'm gonna stick in with rockbox loader |
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03:21:54 | ZakMannn | Hey |
03:21:59 | ZakMannn | First time on the irc.. |
03:22:09 | romanos_melodos | do i really need to have my rockbox.ipod file set not to hidden if i want to use ipl loader? |
03:22:24 | ZakMannn | why you use ipodlinux and rockbox? |
03:22:40 | midkay | why not? |
03:22:43 | ZakMannn | Rockbox has everything ipodlinux does besides video |
03:22:44 | romanos_melodos | exactly |
03:22:45 | ZakMannn | and some games |
03:22:50 | romanos_melodos | yep |
03:22:56 | romanos_melodos | i'm in it for the iboy |
03:22:57 | romanos_melodos | :P |
03:22:59 | ZakMannn | o |
03:23:02 | ZakMannn | wht ipod u got? |
03:23:08 | romanos_melodos | nano |
03:23:16 | ZakMannn | the Rockboy has nano support i believe? |
03:23:22 | romanos_melodos | nope |
03:23:24 | Mikachu | it does not |
03:23:40 | romanos_melodos | it's been a long long long time request |
03:23:41 | romanos_melodos | :P |
03:23:45 | ZakMannn | :) |
03:23:48 | ZakMannn | im stuck on a 2g mini |
03:23:54 | romanos_melodos | wow |
03:23:55 | ZakMannn | iboy is really nicee |
03:23:59 | ZakMannn | my friend showed me it yesterday |
03:24:00 | romanos_melodos | yep |
03:24:11 | ZakMannn | u use podzilla2? |
03:24:17 | romanos_melodos | dunno |
03:24:21 | ZakMannn | lol |
03:24:27 | romanos_melodos | how can i know? |
03:24:30 | ZakMannn | do u use modules? or do u use like floydzilla or whtnot |
03:24:42 | romanos_melodos | i really have no idea |
03:24:44 | Mikachu | he just installed it |
03:24:46 | ZakMannn | lol |
03:24:47 | romanos_melodos | just installed it |
03:24:50 | romanos_melodos | yeah |
03:24:51 | ZakMannn | oh really |
03:24:59 | ZakMannn | i kept up with it since like march last year. |
03:25:04 | ZakMannn | march 2005 |
03:25:08 | romanos_melodos | try to figure out why iboy is not playing either... |
03:25:15 | ZakMannn | ? |
03:25:20 | romanos_melodos | yep |
03:25:24 | ZakMannn | im confused |
03:25:31 | ZakMannn | Iboy 1.3 or 3.3? |
03:25:35 | romanos_melodos | not more than i am |
03:25:40 | ZakMannn | 0.0.3 or 0.3.3 or w.e |
03:25:42 | romanos_melodos | i think 1.3 |
03:26:11 | ZakMannn | i want Rockboy for mini 2g :( |
03:26:23 | ZakMannn | ANYBODY OUT THERE WILLING TO PORT IT? |
03:26:25 | * | Mikachu juggles with his nano and gba |
03:26:28 | romanos_melodos | hahahahaha |
03:26:40 | romanos_melodos | man, you'll make them furious |
03:26:41 | ZakMannn | iboy is neat but on a nano? |
03:26:44 | ZakMannn | the screen is too small |
03:26:46 | romanos_melodos | they've already got me |
03:26:54 | ZakMannn | i saw it on my friend mini |
03:26:56 | Mikachu | ZakMannn: you can use a magnifying glass :P |
03:27:00 | ZakMannn | and the typing on it was too small |
03:27:03 | ZakMannn | ohh really |
03:27:06 | ZakMannn | ur gonna have a nano |
03:27:09 | Mikachu | you just need three hands |
03:27:12 | ZakMannn | and a magnifying glass playing a game? |
03:27:20 | ZakMannn | y not just have a gameboy orginial? |
03:27:37 | Mikachu | the :P would denote a joke |
03:27:46 | ZakMannn | i kno i just wanted to prove a point :( |
03:27:52 | Mikachu | just making sure |
03:28:12 | Mikachu | still, i think it's a plausible solution if it's a fresnel lens and you mount it with some straws |
03:28:23 | ZakMannn | some ugly nano.. |
03:28:29 | Mikachu | detachable! |
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03:29:13 | ZakMannn | mikachu |
03:29:16 | ZakMannn | wht mp3 u got |
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03:29:33 | Mikachu | mp3? i use ogg mostly |
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03:29:39 | Mikachu | like i said i have a nano (and a gba) |
03:29:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | The Nano has a higher resolution screen than the mini anyway |
03:30:11 | Mikachu | this is a fresnel lens btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fresnel_lens.svg |
03:30:25 | Mikachu | like the ones usually used in overhead machines |
03:30:40 | Mikachu | i have a plastic credit card sized one in my wallet |
03:30:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, those are quite nice |
03:31:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | I used to have one. |
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03:31:47 | twisted` | some guy asked me here if I could host him... |
03:31:52 | twisted` | but I forgot his name... |
03:32:02 | ZakMannn | everybody has a nano |
03:32:10 | Mikachu | ZakMannn: i won mine, so don't judge me |
03:32:15 | ZakMannn | how u win it? |
03:32:37 | Mikachu | twisted`: sharpe |
03:32:57 | Mikachu | ZakMannn: a contest at the university |
03:33:07 | ZakMannn | wikdd |
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03:33:24 | Mikachu | okay bye |
03:33:46 | twisted` | Mikachu: yeah I just checked the account lists, and yup, it was sharpe |
03:33:50 | twisted` | Mikachu: have ya seen 'em lately? |
03:34:07 | Mikachu | probably today or yesterday |
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03:50:45 | twisted` | Mikachu: thanks |
03:51:18 | Mikachu | np |
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04:00:09 | twisted` | sharpe :) |
04:00:15 | goffa_ | ah |
04:00:23 | goffa_ | will do... i like smaking people :P |
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04:13:53 | midkay | any knowledgeable rockbox coders around? |
04:16:07 | midkay | never mind, figured it out. |
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06:18:39 | dj-fu | SEXXX |
06:19:33 | jnc | what are you, twelve? |
06:19:49 | dj-fu | lol, no. |
06:19:53 | dj-fu | well played, though |
06:20:05 | jnc | mucking about with my zaurus |
06:20:17 | dj-fu | What's a zaurus? |
06:20:22 | dj-fu | sounds like some kind of anime thing. |
06:20:28 | jnc | heh, close |
06:20:44 | jnc | japanese manufacturer Sharp produces a line of PDA like devices known as Zaurus |
06:20:53 | dj-fu | o0o. |
06:20:58 | jnc | i've got a Sharp Zaurus C3000, which is pxa270 cpu based |
06:21:00 | dj-fu | pda-like? |
06:21:03 | jnc | yep |
06:21:04 | * | dj-fu googles. |
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06:27:19 | * | biffhero had a zaurus6000 stolen. ugh. but I didn't use it so much, either. |
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06:30:08 | jnc | bugger that |
06:30:19 | jnc | biffhero: you much of a kernel hacker? |
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06:42:05 | biffhero | jnc: no, not much. |
06:42:49 | biffhero | jnc: at one time, I thought I was going to spend the $$$ for the newest zaurus. |
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06:43:17 | biffhero | jnc: where did you get the 3k, and for how much? |
06:43:51 | jnc | i paid 550 for a used one |
06:44:02 | biffhero | wow, that's a great price |
06:44:07 | jnc | *cue chime noise* eBay |
06:44:26 | biffhero | cool. |
06:44:42 | jnc | it arrived with a box of crap too. adapters, IDE-usb interface, and so on |
06:45:08 | jnc | recently i picked up a C3100 for 500 |
06:45:08 | biffhero | 899 for a C3200 on dynamism. 699 for a demo C3100 (black) on dynamism. |
06:45:37 | biffhero | I read about a guy who was in .ja and was willing to buy them and ship them over here. |
06:45:40 | jnc | dynamism prices are "normal" but you can get much better deals from StreamlineCPUs |
06:45:55 | biffhero | there were some other places with better prices, I never heard of StreamlineCPUs |
06:46:17 | jnc | i bought a defective screen protector, and Stephen of StreamlineCPUs handled the whole mess without missing a beat |
06:46:18 | biffhero | I paid 800 or so for the C6000, I believe. |
06:46:21 | jnc | totally reccommend them |
06:46:25 | jnc | ah |
06:46:36 | biffhero | the best screen protectors are pdascreenprotectors.com |
06:46:37 | jnc | for 800 you could get the SL-6000w with bluetooth built in |
06:46:38 | jnc | heh |
06:46:53 | jnc | the OverlayBrilliant protector is my favorite |
06:47:05 | jnc | a seller known as myavix_visavis used to sell them on eBay |
06:47:09 | jnc | i'm sad that i only bought one |
06:47:12 | jnc | it is superb |
06:47:24 | biffhero | SL-6000w, what does bluetooth used for on a 6k? |
06:48:04 | biffhero | have you looked at pdascreenprotectors? |
06:48:17 | jnc | reading it now |
06:48:26 | jnc | my issues are with bubbles due to pre-existing dust |
06:48:37 | biffhero | I put them on a 5000, as well as my 6000, _amazing_ |
06:48:40 | jnc | and also that when i wash the protector, it dries with dust caked onto it |
06:49:52 | biffhero | is the 3000 display the same as the 3200 ? |
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06:50:44 | jnc | yes, c3xx0 share the same casing |
06:51:13 | biffhero | I am looking for a product matrix for the C3x00 series |
06:51:24 | jnc | the difference is in the colour of keyboard, case, and i think maybe material |
06:51:50 | jnc | C1000 is also the same casing |
06:54:07 | biffhero | wow, there is a c1000 for GBP 359 on ebay right now. that's US $654. |
06:54:29 | jnc | way too much |
06:54:41 | biffhero | US $535 for a c3100, just ending |
06:54:49 | jnc | that's more fair |
06:55:07 | jnc | C3200's just came out, you can find them for like $650 shipped |
06:55:08 | biffhero | yeah, with italian leather case. |
06:55:20 | biffhero | I am looking for one right now. |
06:55:56 | jnc | zaurus is like the biggest nerd extension... i will tell you now, it hardly does anything i want it to |
06:56:05 | biffhero | ended at 545, wasn't even involved in the bidding. |
06:56:34 | jnc | yeah 550 for a hard drive equipped zaurus (c3xx0) sounds about right |
06:56:46 | biffhero | yeah, I hear you. when my sl6000 was stolen, I went on with a PAA |
06:56:46 | jnc | i was going to sell my C3000 for $300 to a friend |
06:57:14 | jnc | i use my C3100 for its spreadsheet program, basically. i keep track of mileage driving to/from work everyday |
06:57:31 | jnc | the C3000 is for openzaurus development |
06:57:41 | biffhero | that's nice. I was super happy to have a real spreadsheet app. |
06:58:05 | jnc | currently though the C3000 and latest 2.6.16 kernel developments for zaurus hardware isn't quite up to speed, and i cannot reliably suspend/resume |
06:58:11 | jnc | yep |
06:58:17 | biffhero | ick. |
06:59:04 | jnc | they've got Richard Purdie doing development for close to 6-10 different hardware platforms, the guy has barely enough time to think about when he's going to work on what |
06:59:08 | jnc | :/ |
06:59:16 | biffhero | one guy, all those platforms? |
06:59:59 | jnc | and when i say "they" i mean, he is the only guy with dedication and initiative to get these changes and development merged with mainline arm in linux kernel |
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07:00:02 | jnc | so it's all a mess |
07:00:19 | jnc | basically yeah |
07:00:28 | biffhero | have you tried the alternative platforms? |
07:00:32 | jnc | he's one of three people who worked on porting zaurus kernels to 2.6.x |
07:00:57 | jnc | i've tried cacko rom, sharprom, have developed openzaurus a bit |
07:01:01 | jnc | time for woot |
07:01:23 | jnc | http://www.woot.com/ |
07:01:27 | jnc | does it run rockbox? |
07:01:28 | biffhero | already there. |
07:01:43 | biffhero | the other thing is wifi. do any models have wifi? |
07:01:49 | jnc | none have wifi |
07:01:58 | jnc | i mean, the cxxx0 models do not have wifi |
07:02:03 | biffhero | wow, that's a good one. |
07:02:09 | jnc | there is only the CompactFlash slot |
07:02:49 | biffhero | does this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatInfo mean the gigabeat is supported? |
07:03:43 | midkay | no. |
07:03:44 | biffhero | it doesn't show up on http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
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07:04:00 | midkay | not working.. |
07:05:50 | jnc | if developers want hardware to play with, i might be willing to buy stuff and loan it out |
07:06:21 | biffhero | USD 584 for C3200 on http://pricejapan.com/PriceJapan_com.htm |
07:07:09 | jnc | wow, that's good |
07:07:12 | jnc | how much to ship? |
07:07:40 | biffhero | dunno, left the page, I think that was with shipping. |
07:08:35 | biffhero | the page says "price to USA/Canada" |
07:09:10 | biffhero | quote + cable + wifi card ==... |
07:09:46 | biffhero | 652 total with 6000 yen shipping costs. |
07:10:52 | biffhero | product price YEN 62,138 : Shipping cost YEN 6,000 : Our fee YEN 4,000 : Insurance YEN 505 : YEN Total YEN 72,643 : Above Yen amount is equivalent to USD 652 |
07:12:09 | biffhero | that's an amazing price, all told |
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07:16:42 | jnc | indeed |
07:28:43 | midkay | nobody here has an archos player, do they? |
07:28:58 | midkay | i mean literally studio/player model |
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07:31:46 | midkay | well, i'm committing jdgordon's viewer patch.. i just hope the player build works alright (i mean usability wise) |
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07:40:36 | qwm | _wtf_. |
07:40:37 | qwm | midkay |
07:40:43 | qwm | why you aint answering on aim?! |
07:41:39 | midkay | because i don't get any messages?!?!?!~! |
07:41:44 | qwm | :/ |
07:41:45 | qwm | gah. |
07:41:58 | qwm | let's chat here instead then. |
07:42:01 | midkay | since when have you started attempting to chat?!?! |
07:42:10 | qwm | 05:30 CEST. |
07:42:15 | midkay | um. |
07:42:15 | qwm | which is more than two hours ago. |
07:42:19 | midkay | argh!! |
07:42:27 | qwm | thought you had left. |
07:42:34 | qwm | since i sent you messages at three separate times. |
07:42:39 | midkay | wtf. |
07:42:43 | midkay | how awful. |
07:42:51 | midkay | i even tried to message you once a few minutes ago. |
07:42:52 | qwm | yeah. rather. |
07:42:55 | midkay | said you were offline. |
07:43:00 | qwm | :/ |
07:43:09 | qwm | irc is more reliable when my connection is like this. |
07:43:14 | midkay | hm. |
07:43:15 | qwm | tells me immediately if i'm pinging out. |
07:43:17 | qwm | hehe. |
07:43:23 | midkay | haha. one sec, need to commit le work! |
07:43:29 | qwm | what work? |
07:43:34 | qwm | you actually do work?! |
07:43:34 | qwm | :p |
07:43:37 | qwm | ah. |
07:43:39 | qwm | labor day. |
07:43:43 | qwm | thus you should work! |
07:43:46 | qwm | hehehehehe! |
07:43:55 | scott666 | midkay: whend you get the ability to commit stuff? |
07:44:18 | qwm | when did you get the ability to ask dumb questions?! |
07:44:28 | midkay | scott666, wtf. haha. like 3 years ago? |
07:44:51 | scott666 | so like right after i left? |
07:45:27 | scott666 | the last thing i know about you doing is finishish Clockbox |
07:45:29 | midkay | possibly. or even before. |
07:45:36 | midkay | can't remember when you left. |
07:45:46 | scott666 | (remember i helped beta test it) |
07:45:46 | midkay | qwm, haha. alright. |
07:45:58 | midkay | yes, you're still in the credits, Mr. Myran! |
07:46:03 | scott666 | sweet |
07:46:06 | scott666 | nen |
07:46:10 | qwm | :D |
07:46:12 | qwm | myran? |
07:46:36 | scott666 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcNicks |
07:46:42 | scott666 | (scroll down) |
07:47:15 | midkay | scott666, you have a 5G iPod now, right? |
07:47:22 | scott666 | correct |
07:47:52 | midkay | cool. welcome to the leet club. oh, which qwm isn't about to join, since he's a little.. loser. |
07:47:53 | midkay | :p |
07:48:08 | qwm | :( |
07:48:12 | qwm | you pissmyra. |
07:48:18 | midkay | haha. |
07:48:24 | scott666 | i didnt think id ever see the day when i could buy a player running rockbox from somewhere other than ebay |
07:48:52 | scott666 | im so glad i held off from buying an iriver |
07:48:54 | midkay | same. :) although i'm surprised H300 is now on that growing ebay list.. |
07:49:08 | scott666 | yeah |
07:49:14 | scott666 | i wanted to get one of those for a while |
07:49:21 | scott666 | but they were $400 |
07:49:32 | midkay | i still wouldn't mind having one, maybe if they get a little cheaper :) |
07:49:36 | scott666 | so i was like 'fuck that, i could buy a new ipod for that price' |
07:49:45 | midkay | haha. |
07:49:47 | scott666 | and here we are |
07:50:01 | scott666 | except i didnt pay nearly $400 |
07:50:06 | scott666 | heh |
07:50:16 | scott666 | well, depends on how you define 'nearly' |
07:50:23 | midkay | haha. |
07:50:27 | scott666 | but i still got a sweet deal |
07:50:39 | midkay | what was it? |
07:50:46 | biffhero | yes, i love my 5g too. |
07:50:55 | scott666 | $275 for a 60GB |
07:51:11 | biffhero | that is a good deal, where at? |
07:51:25 | midkay | whoa. |
07:51:25 | midkay | wherE? |
07:51:32 | scott666 | (black) |
07:51:32 | scott666 | i bought it from someone i know |
07:51:37 | scott666 | who bought it off someone else |
07:51:39 | biffhero | :-P |
07:51:57 | scott666 | i got it still in the plastic 'dont steal music' wrapper though |
07:52:00 | midkay | cool :) |
07:52:03 | midkay | haha. |
07:52:26 | scott666 | theres another detail, but id rather not have it in the IRC logs |
07:52:26 | scott666 | heh |
07:52:54 | biffhero | it was already named? "girly5g" ?? |
07:53:14 | scott666 | named? |
07:53:17 | jnc | "Biff's iPod" |
07:53:22 | scott666 | oh |
07:53:24 | scott666 | no |
07:53:28 | scott666 | just 'ipod' |
07:53:36 | scott666 | no files on it at all |
07:53:47 | * | biffhero goes and checks, nope. "Biff's iPod" is still there. |
07:53:51 | jnc | did you hax0r the gibson, man. come on |
07:54:05 | jnc | downl0d the garbage file to your zip disk |
07:54:08 | jnc | do it! do it! |
07:55:26 | midkay | scott666, tell us. we love details. did he require some sexual favors in addition to the $275?! |
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07:57:47 | biffhero | favorS ?? |
07:58:33 | biffhero | paint his white picket fence, a la Tom Sawyer! |
07:59:15 | scott666 | haha, yes, exactly |
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08:23:22 | stevenm | Hello guys |
08:23:35 | midkay | hi hi hi. |
08:23:40 | stevenm | my friend lent me his iriver |
08:24:04 | stevenm | with rockbox on it! finally got a chance to run the midi codec on target |
08:24:27 | stevenm | this is kind of nuts. low sampling rate, a bit honky etc, but actually running. thanks to karl's patch, actual sound |
08:25:01 | midkay | cool..:) |
08:25:24 | stevenm | what's the current status on the CVS? I would really like to commit this patch... |
08:25:37 | midkay | well, feature freeze.. |
08:25:45 | stevenm | right... until may 15 ? |
08:25:57 | stevenm | or whats up w/ mayday ? |
08:25:57 | midkay | unless midi is already in CVS, you shouldn't commit it. |
08:26:05 | midkay | yeah.. may 15, should be. maybe even later.. |
08:26:35 | stevenm | it is in CVS, but the current version does not actually output sound. it synthesizes it but just kinda doesn't write it anywhere. i do not own a target, so I can only develop it on the laptop |
08:26:52 | stevenm | but.. someone uploaded a sound output patch to the tracker, and it seems to run on target (my friend lent me a device) |
08:27:25 | midkay | well, if it's in CVS but nonworking, and the patch fixes that, feel free to commit it.. |
08:27:31 | midkay | way more of a bugfix than anything. |
08:27:35 | stevenm | yea |
08:27:47 | stevenm | woah brb, someone's CRYING real hard under my window |
08:28:00 | scorche | o_O |
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08:28:19 | midkay | haha. :E |
08:28:52 | ManaSama | is it possible to get black font? for my ipod video |
08:29:20 | midkay | black font? |
08:29:32 | midkay | change your foreground color to black?.. |
08:29:34 | ManaSama | yea i have a lighter backround |
08:29:40 | ManaSama | foreground? |
08:29:41 | ManaSama | ok |
08:29:53 | dj-fu | general settings > display > lcd settings |
08:29:56 | midkay | foreground color adjusts font/bitmap color for foreground. yeah. |
08:30:38 | ManaSama | kool tthanx |
08:30:47 | ManaSama | can make font bigger? |
08:30:53 | midkay | choose a larger one.. |
08:30:58 | stevenm | ok.. that was strange |
08:32:32 | qwm | :> |
08:32:51 | qwm | ManaSama: are you a bloody otaku? |
08:33:15 | scorche | or a non-bloody one? |
08:33:34 | stevenm | unfortunately midi wont run well at a good sampling rate yet. buffer misses at 22k, but 11k seems fine. only some things sound honky |
08:33:52 | qwm | :> |
08:34:02 | qwm | an nsf plugin would be cool. |
08:34:09 | midkay | stevenm, improvement is better than nothing :) |
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08:34:28 | ravon | qwm: Got one working at 22kHz :) |
08:34:32 | stevenm | midkay, true. if i at least put this patch in, someone else (with asm skills) can probably make it better |
08:34:44 | scott666_ | a rockbox port of PTE would be so sweet |
08:34:54 | qwm | cool ravon |
08:34:54 | qwm | :> |
08:34:58 | scott666_ | but itll /never/ happen |
08:35:10 | ravon | Chokes on the Gradius 2 NSF though. It needs optimizations. |
08:35:16 | midkay | stevenm, right. |
08:35:28 | qwm | :D |
08:35:32 | qwm | what about battle of olympus? |
08:35:37 | qwm | coolest soundtrack evah. |
08:35:39 | ravon | Let me see if I have it. |
08:35:54 | qwm | :) |
08:36:01 | scorche | if you need, i have oodles of midis |
08:36:45 | stevenm | scorche, aah thanks... i have plenty here |
08:36:48 | scorche | <3 midi |
08:36:51 | ravon | I need a better NSF archive :/ |
08:37:06 | ravon | qwm: Know where I can download a huge chunk of NSF files? Like the SID collection. |
08:37:12 | scorche | back from my game making days =D |
08:37:28 | qwm | ravon: zophar.net has tons i think. :> |
08:37:42 | qwm | http://www.zophar.net/nsf/ |
08:37:51 | ravon | qwm: I didn't find a complete packed archive there. Tedious to download >500 files manually :) |
08:38:00 | qwm | i did it. |
08:38:00 | qwm | hehe. |
08:38:01 | qwm | well. |
08:38:03 | qwm | wget -r -l 1 |
08:38:04 | ravon | You beast |
08:38:06 | qwm | that's what i did. |
08:38:08 | qwm | :D |
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08:39:01 | ravon | downloading... |
08:39:13 | qwm | :) |
08:39:13 | qwm | hehe. |
08:42:17 | stevenm | i cant believe the synth code actually works |
08:42:30 | ManaSama | anyone have the pacmman rom? |
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08:48:18 | stevenm | I will probably comit this patch later or something.. or tomorrow maybe |
08:51:25 | stevenm | Also... when you compile rockbox for target, what becomes the rockbox.iriver file? rockbox.bin ? |
08:52:18 | stevenm | ook nvm found it |
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08:55:13 | amiconn | good morning |
08:55:25 | amiconn | midkay: You forgot something important in plugin.h |
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08:57:04 | midkay | amiconn, morning :) what's up? |
08:57:58 | amiconn | If you add a function to the plugin api, *bump the darn api version* .... |
08:58:23 | * | amiconn will try the changed viewer now |
08:58:48 | midkay | amiconn, sorry, i didn't see it in plugin.c, didn't look for it in .h. |
08:59:00 | midkay | please test it on your player if possible, i'm worried about how it would work on the player.. |
08:59:31 | amiconn | I'm rather worried about your ondio "fix" No quit button seems cumbersome... |
08:59:55 | midkay | amiconn, one extra keypress.. |
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09:00:11 | midkay | if you have an idea for an alternative setup, feel free to set it up, i don't have an ondio to test anything on. |
09:00:16 | amiconn | Oh noes! |
09:00:28 | amiconn | Yet another plugin with that cumbersome quit-via-menu |
09:00:39 | amiconn | me hates it |
09:00:56 | midkay | there's a quitbutton for all but ondio. |
09:00:57 | amiconn | If you don't have a specific target, there's always the simulator |
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09:03:10 | qwm | :> |
09:05:18 | midkay | amiconn, that's hardly useful to test button mappings. |
09:05:28 | midkay | i know how it feels to hold a button. apply pressure and release.. |
09:05:36 | midkay | how it feels on-target is entirely different. |
09:06:16 | amiconn | I wouldn't say it's entirely different. |
09:06:26 | midkay | why not? |
09:06:57 | amiconn | The buttons itself are different, but the sim allows e.g. to test consistency (among the plugins, and between plugins and core) |
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09:07:10 | midkay | well, not *entirely*.. but very much useless when you don't know the feel of the device, i think. |
09:07:20 | midkay | and testing consistency takes.. quite a while to get familiar.. |
09:07:41 | midkay | i'd rather just leave out the quit button that's not even necessary until someone with a device has a suggestion :) |
09:07:50 | amiconn | Yes, but imho it's an important point |
09:08:14 | amiconn | We certainly don't want rockbox to end up like the iriver firmware, which imho is highly inconsistent |
09:08:49 | amiconn | (to me it's so inconsistent that I had to look up numerous functions in the manual) |
09:10:48 | midkay | well, "imho", you should add a quit button then. |
09:11:47 | amiconn | It's in fact quite simple (from looking at the source) |
09:12:18 | amiconn | The menu on Ondio should open with long MODE as in the core, and short mode toggles autoscroll as I can see |
09:12:42 | midkay | how that works, however.. |
09:12:48 | amiconn | This just requires the short/long detection mechanism, then OFF is free as the quit button |
09:12:54 | amiconn | Huh? |
09:13:17 | midkay | BUTTON_MENU|BUTTON_REL == autoscroll, BUTTON_MENU|BUTTON_REPEAT == menu.. |
09:13:18 | amiconn | The short/long thing is used in a zillion places. It's simple |
09:13:27 | midkay | then you need to do the _PRE crap for the autoscroll.. |
09:13:30 | amiconn | Yes |
09:13:42 | midkay | which i'm very much unfamiliar with |
09:14:29 | amiconn | Then you should reall try to understand it. (1) It's actually quite simple. (2) It's necessary to use that on targets with few buttons. Ipod is one. |
09:15:16 | midkay | amiconn, luckily i've never had to use it yet. but i agree i do need to learn it.. |
09:15:57 | midkay | unfortunately i didn't know it, didn't really have the time or motivation to learn it, didn't even know if it was a good setup anyways.. and so i simply removed the button. |
09:16:49 | amiconn | The ipod also needs the _PRE mechanism for proper operation in viewer.c |
09:16:59 | midkay | does it? |
09:17:35 | amiconn | Yes, afaics. |
09:18:01 | midkay | ah, holding MENU and pressing SELECT? |
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09:18:11 | midkay | i haven't used that combo to exit the viewer *once*.. |
09:18:33 | amiconn | Yes, I mean the menu vs. quit clash |
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09:18:53 | midkay | right |
09:18:53 | amiconn | menu should be BUTTON_MENU|BUTON_REL then, and would need a menu_pre |
09:19:02 | * | midkay nods |
09:19:18 | amiconn | I'll rebuild my targets and test, then adjust |
09:19:47 | midkay | cool, i'm off to bed, but i'll be sure to see if you've noted anything in the morning. |
09:20:04 | midkay | and thanks, i appreciate your heads up on these things :) |
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09:22:20 | * | amiconn intended to fix other things instead... |
09:22:50 | amiconn | But anyway, the improved viewer itself is a good thing |
09:22:57 | midkay | heee heee, my plan to waste your time is working.. |
09:24:22 | amiconn | :/ The more wasted time, the more delay for 3.0 |
09:26:00 | midkay | amiconn, i was actually kidding. |
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09:32:17 | JdGordon | hey all |
09:32:24 | * | midkay waves |
09:32:39 | JdGordon | can any1 help me with choppy dvd playback in linux? |
09:32:50 | * | midkay retracts hand quickly |
09:34:01 | JdGordon | cheers for adding the viewer patch |
09:34:09 | JdGordon | hands free autoscroll? |
09:35:01 | midkay | automatically scrolls down a line based on a user selected speed.. |
09:35:19 | midkay | wasn't sure if 'autoscroll' would be understood so i added 'hands-free' thinking it would get the point across better :) |
09:36:18 | amiconn | How is the auto-scroll speed selected? |
09:36:36 | midkay | by the user, or codewise? |
09:36:43 | amiconn | by the user |
09:36:47 | midkay | in the menu. |
09:36:53 | amiconn | Hmm. |
09:36:59 | * | amiconn has an idea for improvement |
09:37:08 | * | midkay opens ears wide |
09:37:22 | amiconn | Once auto-scroll is enabled, UP and DOWN could change scroll speed |
09:37:58 | midkay | nice idea |
09:38:40 | amiconn | I.e. 1x DOWN, slow scroll down, 1x UP, back to no-scroll, another UP, slow scroll up etc |
09:39:11 | midkay | back to no-scroll? |
09:39:20 | midkay | then how would the user tell from non-auto-scroll and auto-scroll disabled? |
09:39:48 | amiconn | Ehm, the user is who enables autoscroll? |
09:40:03 | midkay | if they want to stop it, they should tap the autoscroll button.. |
09:40:36 | midkay | there's just no point in sitting still in autoscroll mode. that's the opposite of *auto*scroll. |
09:40:37 | amiconn | Hmm. Perhaps the zero-speed isn't necessary then |
09:40:55 | midkay | and i'd imagine rather confusing and illogical.. |
09:41:05 | amiconn | But UP/DOWN could set scroll speed, including upward scrolling |
09:41:20 | midkay | i'd agree that, just toss the 'stopped while autoscrolling' idea.. |
09:42:08 | * | amiconn imagines how it would look with smooth, pixel-wise scrolling... |
09:42:38 | amiconn | Nah, drop that, at least for now |
09:42:53 | midkay | and i thought amiconn was mr. anti-bloat :) |
09:43:03 | midkay | perhaps only when it's his code/idea? ;) |
09:43:09 | midkay | +not |
09:43:12 | amiconn | Viewer.c isn't core |
09:43:34 | * | midkay nods slowly... |
09:43:45 | amiconn | Pixel-wise would probably look bad on H1x0 and other slow LCDs, |
09:44:01 | amiconn | and for 16bit our mono bitmap routines need optimisation first |
09:44:16 | amiconn | They need it badly... :-( |
09:44:20 | midkay | ah.. |
09:46:03 | amiconn | For plugins, I don't have any problems when they implement fancy stuff, as long as (1) they are *reasonably* multi-platform. (2) the fancy stuff doesn't kill usability |
09:46:35 | amiconn | And it turned out in the past that the multi-platform thing isn't as hard as I thought |
09:46:51 | amiconn | See e.g. bubbles for archos... |
09:46:58 | amiconn | Btw, do you still have your archos? |
09:47:14 | midkay | yep, tried bubbles when you committed it. |
09:47:50 | scorche | it hurts my fingers >_< |
09:48:15 | * | amiconn wonders why? |
09:48:39 | scorche | play it on archos for a few hours, and you will understand |
09:49:01 | scorche | ;) |
09:49:03 | scorche | but it is fun |
09:49:10 | amiconn | Hehe, if you play it for hours, it will probably hurt on all targets... |
09:49:55 | midkay | not on the ipod.. not as much at least. the archos (recorder) has the small play button with the grooves/raised play icon on it which kind of hurts :) |
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09:50:54 | midkay | amiconn, why did you ask if i still had my archos? anything else? *going to bed* |
09:51:45 | amiconn | Nothing special... |
09:52:18 | midkay | k :) bed it is.. nite all |
09:52:25 | amiconn | nite midkay |
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09:58:06 | darkless | you know what would be a really nice feature? A simple way to simultaneously mute sound and |
09:58:16 | darkless | turn on microphone |
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09:58:36 | darkless | so you can briefly interrupt your music while having a short conversation |
09:58:53 | darkless | great for people using IEMs that takes a little while to pop out |
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10:00:38 | darkless | I know that Shure has a device with a microphone and switch on the headphone cord that allows you to do the same thing, ie. replace audio w. microphone at the press of a button |
10:01:23 | darkless | but the device is rather bulky |
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11:03:55 | * | amiconn wonders about the cumbersome menu implementation in viewer.c |
11:05:51 | linuxstb | amiconn: Thanks for the Sudoku "complaints". As you've probably noticed, I'm working on them now. |
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11:15:00 | petur | amiconn? |
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11:28:18 | linuxstb | Can any wavpack users confirm/deny this bug? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4785 |
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11:52:19 | petur | anybody with voice/playback knowledge? |
11:54:23 | linuxstb | Zagor: (if you see this in the logs) Would it be possible to add a flyspray filter for "tasks not assigned to any version". This would help with cleaning up the database and assigning tasks to upcoming versions. |
11:56:32 | petur | have been wanting to ask to also make a filter for platforms (like iriver, ipod,...) |
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11:57:27 | petur | linuxstb, you have any knowledge about voice and playback init? |
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11:57:52 | linuxstb | None at all. |
11:58:42 | petur | I think I smashed two big voice bugs with one small fix but I'm affraid it breaks something somewhere else |
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12:00:00 | petur | afraid even |
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12:00:12 | myth1 | hi guys |
12:00:50 | myth1 | i have a quick question: During seeking in a codec: What is returned in ci->seek_time: The new number of milliseconds or the new number of seconds? |
12:01:45 | Lear | myth1: milliseconds, I'm quite sure. |
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12:01:53 | myth1 | ah, thanks ;) |
12:03:32 | Lear | petur: I messed a bit with similar things a while ago... |
12:03:53 | Lear | Maybe you could show the patch? |
12:04:20 | petur | will make a patch |
12:06:29 | petur | petur/voice.patch">http://users.telenet.be/petur/voice.patch |
12:07:22 | petur | it places talk_init before audio_init because the latter must know the bufferr voice needs |
12:07:54 | Lear | Your worries are warranted, because that part is a bit messy... :) But I don't know if it'll break anything (need to look closer at it). |
12:08:15 | petur | amiconn suggested that the whole buffer allocation should be done properly, but I'm not that familiar with playback |
12:08:43 | petur | but it fixes a freeze at startup and the voice eating itself after playback |
12:09:05 | petur | on my h340 at least |
12:10:27 | linuxstb | petur: IIUC, settings_apply() calls talk_init(), and settings_apply() is called before audio_init()... |
12:11:07 | linuxstb | But maybe that's only if you are not using the built-in language... I'm not sure about those settings. |
12:12:38 | linuxstb | Yes, ignore me. If you are using the built-in language, then settings_apply() doesn't call talk_init(). |
12:13:29 | petur | yups, see it too |
12:15:26 | petur | I had another concern regarding this: if you switch to another voiced language at runtime, audio isn re-initialized. If the new voice file is bigger it will use audio buffer without playback knowing |
12:15:45 | Lear | petur: looks safe to me... |
12:16:06 | petur | commit and see if people complain? |
12:16:10 | petur | ;) |
12:16:30 | Lear | petur: if language is changed, audio playback will be stopped at least. |
12:17:24 | petur | yes, but it must set its buffer past the new voice buffer |
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12:19:08 | Lear | yes, there seem to be a call to reset_buffer missing there... |
12:19:52 | petur | heh, silly me, pcm_rec_init doesn't init its buffers, it's done in pcmrec_init (stupid similar names) |
12:21:22 | petur | and pcmrec_init is called when entering the recording screen, so no harm there |
12:21:50 | Lear | Hm.. I wonder how safe it would be for Ondios though... |
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12:31:24 | romanos_melodos | goodmorning anyone! Anyone who's using ipl here? |
12:31:33 | romanos_melodos | (everyone) |
12:31:35 | romanos_melodos | :) |
12:33:52 | romanos_melodos | i just want to know how can i get some sound on iboy |
12:34:11 | crashd | perhaps, just maybe, this is the wrong channel to be asking about ipl, eh romanos_melodos ? |
12:34:12 | romanos_melodos | been to the ipl channel but there all probably sleeping |
12:35:01 | romanos_melodos | crashd, i was wondering if someone could help, that's all |
12:35:16 | crashd | O.o |
12:35:23 | crashd | you're best off checking the ipl forums tbh |
12:35:58 | romanos_melodos | yep.. |
12:39:35 | linuxstb | romanos_melodos: A quick search shows this thread describing how to get iBoy working on the Nano: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8844 |
12:42:59 | romanos_melodos | that was really helpful indeed linux! Thanx |
12:43:21 | linuxstb | No problem roman. |
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12:48:21 | romanos_melodos | does rockboy has sound for ipods? |
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12:48:41 | linuxstb | Yes. |
12:48:45 | romanos_melodos | in iboy sound is really crap , so i might turn it off again |
12:48:55 | romanos_melodos | for nano |
12:49:16 | romanos_melodos | is the sound for rockboy nano works well>? |
12:49:27 | romanos_melodos | sorry |
12:49:32 | romanos_melodos | rockboy ipod |
12:50:33 | linuxstb | I don't know, I never play it. |
12:50:41 | romanos_melodos | oh ok |
12:52:03 | romanos_melodos | i'm really looking forward for the rockboy release for nano. Ipl is really useless... |
12:52:17 | romanos_melodos | i've just installed it only for iboy |
12:53:27 | romanos_melodos | i really can't understande ipl's usage and purpose besides the hack, since it's menu is quite crapy :P |
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12:59:59 | romanos_melodos | rockbox really rocks!!! :) |
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13:01:23 | muesli_- | nothin new :p |
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13:15:06 | petur | ok, any objections that I commit the swapped audio init? |
13:16:04 | linuxstb | Has it been tested on hwcodec? |
13:16:50 | petur | how can I? |
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13:17:43 | petur | anybody with an archos around that can build his own version? |
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13:18:30 | Lear | Don't forget to change the simulator init too... |
13:18:53 | petur | heh, thanks - forgot that |
13:19:20 | petur | well, lunch time, bbl |
13:19:41 | Lear | Hwcodec doesn't use a dedicated buffer, does it? Doesn't it always steal the audio buffer? |
13:20:19 | Lear | Sorry, forget that. :) |
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13:27:07 | JdGordon | if you were my ps2 mouse on my freeking linux box.. where would u hide? /dev/input.mouse aint working |
13:27:19 | preglow | linuxstb: how could we discover if we're at the last frame? |
13:27:41 | linuxstb | Based on the file position? |
13:27:44 | ravon | JdGordon: maybe /dev/input/mice |
13:27:59 | ravon | or /dev/psaux |
13:28:34 | JdGordon | /dev/input/mice doesnt work, i tried /dev/psaux but it just hang on a black screen.... |
13:28:45 | JdGordon | had to kill X after that |
13:29:12 | ravon | Does it start when there's no mouse configured? |
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13:30:46 | JdGordon | says no screens found when i comment out the mouse line |
13:32:12 | preglow | linuxstb: i somewhat fail to see how that's possible. the frame may be of several sizes, and the file might also have all sorts of garbage tacked on at the end |
13:32:16 | ravon | There's your problem then :) |
13:32:19 | preglow | linuxstb: or is metadata snipped off while loading? |
13:32:27 | ravon | Probably the config section for the graphics card. |
13:33:51 | JdGordon | :( gfx card section looks fine |
13:35:16 | JdGordon | Section "Device" |
13:35:17 | JdGordon | Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]" |
13:35:17 | JdGordon | Driver "nv" |
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13:35:32 | linuxstb | Yes, if the file has garbage at the end, there is nothing we can do. But we should know the new position in the input stream after a frame has been decoded, and before it is inserted in the PCM buffer. So we could deal with cases where the file is clean, by just seeing if the number of bytes left is < the minimum size of an mpeg audio frame. |
13:35:52 | linuxstb | We should also know if there is an id3v1 frame at the end. |
13:35:57 | Lear | so you're talking about mp3 files? |
13:36:02 | linuxstb | Yes. |
13:36:20 | linuxstb | Dealing with gapless playback after a user has seeked in a VBR file. |
13:36:48 | linuxstb | IIUC, we need to drop N samples from the end of the file, but after seeking, we lose track of which exact sample we are decoding. |
13:36:56 | Lear | I was just thinking about that too, and was about to commit a small fix... |
13:37:02 | Lear | Exactly my case. :) |
13:37:09 | preglow | how does it work? |
13:37:33 | Lear | Simple, just disable gapless trim if a seek has been done. |
13:37:42 | Lear | So it is more of a temporary work-around... |
13:38:27 | preglow | eh |
13:38:32 | preglow | isn't that what would happen anyway? |
13:38:33 | Lear | But wouldn't it be possible to decode the next frame header before writing the current frames data? |
13:39:00 | Lear | No, currently it can stop playback too early, because of the inexact position. |
13:40:16 | preglow | right |
13:40:39 | preglow | why would we want to decode the next frame header? |
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13:41:06 | Lear | To see if there's any more pcm data. If not, assume it is the last frame, and do the trimming. |
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13:44:07 | linuxstb | Wouldn't it be safer to check how many bytes are left in the file? We don't want to also break the playback of corrupted files. |
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13:44:57 | Lear | Well, we should keep the error handling as it is, so that shouldn't change. |
13:45:39 | Lear | But what about ape or lyrics tags? Or other "garbage" that could confuse the size... |
13:45:53 | preglow | why isn't that cut, btw? |
13:46:07 | preglow | i believe id3v1 is already |
13:46:09 | linuxstb | We don't look for APE tags. But IMO, that's the user's problem. |
13:46:30 | linuxstb | But it can be fixed if we add support for APE in MP3. |
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13:47:05 | preglow | i'm not that keen on it myself |
13:47:27 | linuxstb | You mean APE support? |
13:47:29 | preglow | yes |
13:47:42 | preglow | i don't quite get why people are stuffing ape tags in mp3s |
13:48:23 | linuxstb | I don't really care, but once we merge the id3v1 parsing with the rest of the metadata parsing, it can be implemented at virtually zero cost. |
13:48:49 | preglow | sure |
13:50:25 | preglow | at some point we should consider searching the proper way in mp3s |
13:50:40 | preglow | the musepack search routine currently does it like that, and it's really not very slow |
13:50:48 | linuxstb | What do you mean? |
13:50:51 | Lear | Anyway, I'll commit my fix, to stop it from cutting too early, unless you have anything against it... |
13:50:51 | preglow | walking frames |
13:51:01 | preglow | Lear: go ahead |
13:51:03 | linuxstb | You mean seeking? |
13:51:09 | preglow | seek/search/lol |
13:51:27 | Acksaw|AFK | I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy. I might be drunk, but at least i'm not insane. |
13:51:29 | Lear | preglow: wouldn't that be quite slow, for large files (like 30 MB+)? |
13:55:29 | preglow | will definitely be slower, yes |
13:55:54 | preglow | but not much for smaller files |
13:56:15 | preglow | not anything i'm going to implement anyway |
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13:58:02 | Moos | preglow: nothing new on the musepack front? |
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14:00:01 | preglow | no |
14:00:24 | preglow | the seek patch doesn't support backwards seeking properly |
14:00:29 | preglow | so i'm not commiting it yet |
14:00:43 | Moos | uch, ok |
14:01:59 | Moos | me I'm using the update version patch you updated on tracker, but not the last one, the one before |
14:02:48 | Moos | and quite happy with already :) |
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14:06:06 | * | petur is still looking for an archos tester |
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14:12:19 | Lear | preglow: btw, you interested in that updated mp4 metadata parser I wrote? It isn't quite finished, but I could upload a patch. |
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14:16:29 | linuxstb | Lear: I would be interested in it - please upload the patch. |
14:16:50 | Lear | okay, will do. |
14:18:05 | preglow | Lear: yeah, let him have it, i don't really care too much about mp4 |
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14:23:17 | Lear | Argh, forgot to fill in one field, so I clicked on "go back" only to get an empty form. Luckily I don't need to redo much... :/ |
14:25:15 | Lear | linuxstb: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5268 |
14:29:42 | romanos_melodos | i was just wondering.. is this all rebooting process and chrooting in ipods hdd installing several firmwares going to be covered from apple's gurantee in case something goes wrong? |
14:30:11 | linuxstb | Lear: Thanks, I'll have a look at it sometime. I've got a few test files which the current mp4 parser chokes on. |
14:30:55 | Lear | Yes, it only accepts files from certain itunes versions or something, it seems. |
14:31:37 | romanos_melodos | btw , in manage settings there is a browse firmwares option. I'm using all three distributions but nothing's there.. |
14:32:10 | linuxstb | romanos_melodos: No-one can say for sure, but 1) Assuming you can still access your hard disk, you can remove all traces of third-party firmwares; 2) Someone from Apple Canada support has been quoted as saying that Rockbox doesn't void the warranty; 3) Both Archos and iriver have refused to repair players with Rockbox on them. |
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14:32:55 | romanos_melodos | hmm |
14:33:51 | linuxstb | Lear: No point in supporting atoms > 4GB when we are using FAT32... |
14:34:07 | Lear | True... |
14:35:47 | romanos_melodos | how can i erase letters when i'm in rockbox text editor? Rename them? e.g. when i'm in my music dir , how can i go back and erase the letters? music <= |
14:36:57 | linuxstb | Lear: Your patch only seems to change metadata.c - what about libm4a ? |
14:37:28 | Lear | Yes, that was the only problematic part I knew about... |
14:37:30 | Hansmaulwurf | romanos_melodos: what player? |
14:37:38 | romanos_melodos | nano |
14:37:41 | Lear | Haven't touched the codec parts at all. |
14:38:00 | Hansmaulwurf | uh sorry, have only one iriver, look at the nano manual |
14:38:33 | linuxstb | OK. I would expect libm4a to fail as well for non-itunes files. But you seem to be saying it doesn't for you? |
14:38:34 | Hansmaulwurf | ony my H120 its "hold recording pressed and move left" to delete a letter |
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14:39:03 | Lear | But as metioned in the patch, I only tested a few files... |
14:39:13 | linuxstb | OK. |
14:39:14 | linuxstb | bbl |
14:41:53 | * | petur is still looking for an archos tester |
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14:42:24 | preglow | no archoses here |
14:43:24 | petur | what if I just commit it... bah |
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14:44:27 | Lear | It's not like it is hard to revert it... |
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14:46:50 | petur | good, will do then. amiconn can slap me afterwards ;) |
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14:56:57 | JdGordon | hehe, i (well actually midkay) pissed of roolku :D |
14:57:02 | * | JdGordon hopes he inst here... |
14:57:12 | preglow | hahah |
14:57:13 | preglow | who cares |
14:57:18 | preglow | the menu way is the right way |
14:57:40 | preglow | we need a consistent interface across targets, and a menu is the only way to achieve that |
14:58:31 | preglow | i was just about to reply to him, heh |
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15:07:50 | JdGordon | dont people like being able to do things with less button presses? am i the only true lazy person here? |
15:07:52 | webguest91 | where can I get more info on the hands free auto scroll feature |
15:08:17 | preglow | sure, i like it |
15:08:28 | preglow | there will always be emacs fans who love everything being mapped to the most obscure things |
15:08:35 | preglow | but they're not exactly our largest user base, i'd wager |
15:08:48 | JdGordon | webguest91: midkay added that feature... look in the viewer menu.. |
15:10:04 | webguest91 | err why not put it under scrolling ? |
15:10:12 | petur | hey! breaking feature freeze are we? :P |
15:10:34 | * | JdGordon rekons the freeze should only apply to the core... |
15:11:04 | preglow | well, not only the core will be used |
15:11:11 | preglow | and the point of a feature freeze is stabilizing things |
15:11:32 | preglow | so i agree with that side of things, but anywho, now that it's in |
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15:12:53 | webguest91 | still dont understand why he didn't put it under display > scrolling |
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15:17:18 | midkay | what? |
15:17:33 | midkay | display > scrolling is part of the core. viewer is a plugin. |
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15:18:58 | Mikachu | is the save on quit still unconditional? |
15:20:38 | midkay | Mikachu, viewer? yes. |
15:20:47 | Mikachu | it's a bit annoying |
15:21:02 | midkay | sure, disk spinups suck :) |
15:21:09 | Mikachu | even on my nano |
15:21:12 | preglow | saves what? |
15:21:15 | Mikachu | settings |
15:21:22 | preglow | no matter if they're changed or not? |
15:21:24 | Mikachu | which i'm not even sure you'd want to |
15:21:25 | midkay | i was actually going to write some code to only save if the settings had changed from the file ones.. |
15:21:25 | Mikachu | yes |
15:21:35 | midkay | i was in kind of a rush, though :) |
15:22:26 | * | preglow has a final (he hopes) stab at spdif recording |
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15:23:07 | Mikachu | also, couldn't word wrap and narrow mode be combined in a tristate option? |
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15:30:39 | midkay | Mikachu, interesting idea :) |
15:31:31 | Mikachu | they're both about wrapping, and i always forget which means what |
15:32:13 | Mikachu | it could be 'Line Breaks': 'word', 'character', 'off' |
15:32:30 | Mikachu | or something like that |
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15:35:17 | midkay | yeah, i was thinking "view mode": "narrow (wrap words)", "narrow (chop words)", and "wide (no wrap)" or something. |
15:36:43 | midkay | anyways, gotta run.. laters all :) |
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15:46:21 | romanos_melodos | hi |
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15:47:31 | romanos_melodos | does anyone knows how i can skip through my videos in ipl? |
15:47:58 | romanos_melodos | there's no one in #ipl |
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15:56:09 | petur | is there a reason reset_buffer() [playback.c] isn't exported? Is it only for internal use? |
15:58:12 | Lear | Possibly, yes. But I believe audio_set_crossfade is exported, and that does more setup. |
15:58:45 | petur | looks like an ugly way to do what I want to (re-init audio) |
15:59:04 | petur | maybe I'd better wait for lostlogic to return |
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16:00:53 | Lear | Yes, maybe it should be split in two... |
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16:05:12 | preglow | anyone mind if i just remove the sample rate selector for recording on iriver? i doubt someone will implement it in time for release |
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16:06:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | If they implement it they can always add it back anyway |
16:07:14 | Kyomi | Alright... see if you can figure this out |
16:07:23 | Kyomi | I believe my battery is struggling |
16:07:36 | petur | preglow: do remove it for now... |
16:08:11 | Kyomi | I can use it for about an hour or two sometimes around 4 hours, then it shuts off and I try to get into rockbox and go to the battery menu and it seems to... recharge itse;f |
16:08:14 | Kyomi | itself* |
16:08:16 | preglow | i pretty much know how to fix it, but i don't have time to test it |
16:08:38 | Kyomi | I can watch it go from about 3.60 - 3.84 in like a minute |
16:08:53 | Kyomi | The voltage delta in one minute was about 3.60 |
16:09:02 | petur | preglow: but then you'd need to implement it for mic/line-in as well... |
16:10:05 | romanos_melodos | what's the register command? |
16:10:32 | preglow | petur: that's the only thing it makes sense for |
16:10:39 | preglow | petur: the sample rate setting has no impact on spdif |
16:10:49 | preglow | which carries its own sample rate info |
16:10:59 | romanos_melodos | what's the command to register in mirc channels? |
16:10:59 | preglow | amiconn: present? |
16:11:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | romanos_melodos: You're told it by the server when you log on. That page full of stuff does contain useful information. |
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16:14:33 | hydrahead | can anyone help me out with a restore of ipod nano please? |
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16:15:23 | klrspz | hydrahead, what's up? |
16:15:52 | hydrahead | well yesterday i got a nano, and today i tried installing apple os 1,1 |
16:16:09 | hydrahead | and now the ipod seems to be working but when i plug it in |
16:16:27 | hydrahead | the itunes dosent see it and ipod updater cant access it so i cant restore it |
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16:17:54 | klrspz | did you check your device manager? |
16:18:47 | hydrahead | i did but i cant see an ipod there, perhaps its listed as a mass sotrage device |
16:19:11 | hydrahead | storage even |
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16:21:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: Wait, you're saying 1.1 installed, and *after* that you're having problems? |
16:22:36 | hydrahead | yes |
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16:23:07 | hydrahead | it showed that progress bar and the player turned on, so i figure it installed it |
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16:23:23 | Genre9mp3 | romanos_melodos: You have already registered your nick...now when you log in just identify yourself using this: "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>" where <password> is the password you gave when you registered. |
16:24:14 | hydrahead | i tried restoring it on 2 pcs and the same thing happens |
16:25:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: Does the iPod show that it's connected? |
16:25:18 | romanos_melodos | did u get my pm genre? |
16:25:36 | Genre9mp3 | no....you have to identify yourself first... |
16:25:41 | hydrahead | yes it does |
16:26:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: And the iPod does or does not show up as a drive? |
16:26:12 | romanos_melodos | i've literally copied your command and replace the password field with mine |
16:26:13 | romanos_melodos | ?? |
16:26:34 | hydrahead | it shows up, bu when i try to access the drive through my computer it freezes |
16:27:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: And this happens even if you boot it in emergency disk mode instead? |
16:27:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: On an unrelated note, if you're planning on asking a question in the IRC channel, wait on posting in the forums until nobody here can help you. |
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16:28:00 | hydrahead | sorry, im just a bit in a panic from trying to get it to work for 2 hours |
16:28:00 | romanos_melodos | is is workin' genre? |
16:28:24 | romanos_melodos | gamw |
16:28:31 | romanos_melodos | :P |
16:28:57 | romanos_melodos | can i change my pass and do the hole thing from the scratch genre? |
16:28:58 | hydrahead | i tried the disk mode and the same thing happens |
16:29:07 | Genre9mp3 | romanos:What IRC client do you use? |
16:29:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: And you can't just right click on the disk and tell it to reformat it? |
16:29:12 | hydrahead | the ipod itself acts normally but the computer has problems |
16:29:13 | romanos_melodos | mirc |
16:29:33 | Genre9mp3 | I'll PM you what to do... |
16:29:36 | hydrahead | no, ill try it again but itll probably freeze my computer again |
16:29:37 | romanos_melodos | ok |
16:30:40 | hydrahead | k the pc found it. ill try to access it again... |
16:30:58 | romanos_melodos | such a hassle... |
16:32:56 | klrspz | hydrahead, sorry about that, my phone rang and i had to put out a fire |
16:33:02 | hydrahead | My Computer is completly blank |
16:33:02 | klrspz | ok, can you go into diskmode? |
16:33:07 | klrspz | ? |
16:33:14 | hydrahead | I am in disk mode |
16:33:18 | klrspz | sounds like you're having worse problems than a defunct ipod |
16:33:27 | klrspz | if my My Comp is completely blank |
16:33:46 | romanos_melodos | ta alla irc client einai kala genre? mporw na xrisimopoiisw trillian? |
16:33:55 | klrspz | wtf |
16:34:07 | dpro | hydrahead: can you mount it and see the stuff on the disk ? |
16:34:11 | hydrahead | yeah but on another pc it doesent go blank but also it wont let me right click on the drive |
16:34:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | It sounds like both of those PC are having issues. |
16:34:34 | Genre9mp3 | romanos:Please....speak in english in the channel |
16:34:42 | romanos_melodos | pm me |
16:35:10 | romanos_melodos | yeah |
16:35:16 | klrspz | hydrahead, well if you can't see it in the device manager as having issues, or can't see it in the disk manager, then you might have an issue that will take a bit of work |
16:35:16 | hydrahead | i really dont get it, it worked flawlessly with the other firmware |
16:35:18 | romanos_melodos | sorry about that lads :P |
16:35:37 | hydrahead | i just tried uninstalling it from the device manager |
16:35:43 | dpro | hydrahead: did you backup the old firmware ? |
16:35:47 | hydrahead | it installed it again and wants me to reboot |
16:36:01 | klrspz | mine came WITH 1.1, so i'm not sure about any problems |
16:36:01 | hydrahead | well i have the old updater on my pc |
16:36:10 | dpro | hydrahead: hmmm bow down before thy master and reboot then ;) |
16:36:24 | hydrahead | heh ok, be back in a minute |
16:36:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: I'd have suggested you uninstall iTunes, and all the "iPod" drives since they're unnecessary, and just treat it as a pure mass storage device |
16:36:59 | dpro | yup, or use linux and avoid all those superduper drivers all together |
16:37:00 | hydrahead | ok noted, ill see what happens after a reboot |
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16:37:28 | romanos_melodos | dunno man.. is kinda painful doing this all over |
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16:38:20 | julius | hi all, I try to compile RockCalendar for ipod 5g, but I get an error saying BUTTON_DOWN (and so on) is undeclared. What do I do wrong? |
16:38:52 | XavierGr | this romanos_melodos is sure getting annoying! |
16:38:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | julius: Then RockCalender probably does not have all the buttons properly defined for all targets. You'll have to edit it and fix that |
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16:39:29 | dpro | julius: just guessing but it might me #ifdef'ed somewhere and you need to #define BUTTON_DOWN IPOD_DOWN or similar |
16:39:44 | romanos | send me the instructions once again genre, i'll give it one last shot. |
16:40:06 | romanos | god damn it |
16:40:26 | julius | Paul_The_Nerd, the strange thing is that there is no deffinition for BUTTON_DOWN in e.g. calculator.c but it still works |
16:41:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | julius: Does calculator *use* BUTTON_DOWN anywhere in it though? |
16:41:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | julius: And I don't mean "The down button" I mean the literal BUTTON_DOWN |
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16:41:28 | dpro | it's in button.h |
16:41:49 | julius | Paul_The_Nerd, define CALCULATOR_DOWN BUTTON_DOWN |
16:42:06 | markun | amiconn: can you take a look at it before I commit? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/playercredits.patch |
16:42:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | julius: And as dpro mentioned, does calculator.c get the definitions of button.h through some means? |
16:44:22 | julius | Paul_The_Nerd, this is what calculator has at the beginning: include "plugin.h"; ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP; include "math.h"; so there is no button.h anywere, I think it is included automatically by the plugin.h |
16:44:45 | dpro | paul: yes it includes it, just define BUTTON_SCROLL_FWD as BUTTON_DOWN or whatever |
16:45:49 | dpro | plugin.h includes button.h |
16:45:49 | julius | dpro, yep, thanks a lot, I just noticed the difference between calculator and rockcalendar, I will do it, thanks a lot! |
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16:51:44 | julius | something else: I managed to get itrip fm transmiter to work with Rockbox, it is a bit tricky, but it works! there is a litle patch wich enables the power out on the dock connector, but we are missing the serial port support for 5g, and cos itrip powers on, on a play command send throught the serial port, we can't power it on, but if you run the original firmware and power on the itrip and than you keep the power supply for the itrip with a litle battery ti |
16:51:44 | julius | ll you reboot you ipod it will work out of the box :) the sound quality is really good, and it never powers it down till you shut down rockbox, so you don't have to worry about losing the power |
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16:54:39 | romanos | genre, did u get my pm |
16:54:40 | romanos | ? |
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17:00:40 | romanos | genre r u gettin my pm's? |
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17:05:32 | petur | bbl |
17:06:10 | bleaked | i'm sorry that this question is not specifically rockbox-related, but i thought i might probe some of your minds.. for some reason my ipod nano will not allow me to transfer songs onto it, or even delete any files off of it.. i use the kpod kioslave to automount it, then amarok to transfer the songs through it's VFAT interface. i have also tried transferring files via the console, and yes, even as root, and it still does not allow me. |
17:06:31 | bleaked | the error says that it's a read-only file system. |
17:06:39 | bleaked | so, i thought the kioslave was mounting it ro |
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17:06:56 | bleaked | so i manually mounted it, and still the same thing. |
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17:07:46 | bleaked | i'm really not sure what i am doing wrong, or what exactly happened. |
17:08:29 | Mikachu | maybe the fs has errors |
17:09:05 | bleaked | hrm |
17:09:11 | bleaked | what would you suggest i do? |
17:09:20 | Mikachu | check if dmesg says anything special after you mount it |
17:09:22 | bleaked | are there vfat disk utilities for *nix? |
17:09:34 | Mikachu | fsck.vfat |
17:09:47 | bleaked | ah, duh. |
17:11:07 | bleaked | hrm, dmesg seems perfect. |
17:12:18 | bleaked | Mikachu. hrm..so i ran fsck.vfat, and it's saying that the FAT's differ, and it's asking me which one i would like to use, first or second? |
17:12:27 | Mikachu | heh |
17:12:36 | Mikachu | one of them is probably wrong, but it's impossible to know which one |
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17:12:55 | hydrahead | hi again ppl |
17:13:07 | hydrahead | i tried reinsalling itunes and ipod from the cd |
17:13:18 | hydrahead | now it lets me get into my computer |
17:13:24 | Mikachu | bleaked: you could dump the whole partition to a file and work on that |
17:13:25 | hydrahead | but i still cant format it |
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17:13:59 | Mikachu | bleaked: or backup any files you don't already have on your computer and guess |
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17:14:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: I didn't say "reinstall" I said "uninstall" |
17:14:41 | udo- | hello |
17:14:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | :-P |
17:15:00 | hydrahead | yeah i uninstalled it first |
17:15:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, but I never said reinstall them |
17:15:09 | udo- | can I ask a few things? |
17:15:11 | hydrahead | aha |
17:15:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | They're both unnecessary for accessing the ipod. |
17:15:14 | hydrahead | man im dumb |
17:15:34 | hydrahead | ok ill uninstall them now |
17:15:43 | udo- | I just installed the environment to compile rockbox |
17:15:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's possible that some inconsistency in the filesystem is making the ipod utilities lock things up. You may be able to access it fine after they're gone. |
17:15:47 | udo- | works well |
17:15:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Of course, you may not, but it's worth a shot. |
17:16:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | udo-: "works well" does not a question make. What kinda problems you havin'? :) |
17:16:15 | udo- | did someone implement a method to record lossless compressed audio? |
17:16:24 | hydrahead | should i also remove it from device manager or only from add remove programs? |
17:16:27 | udo- | (nor problems yet) |
17:16:36 | bleaked | Mikachu. hrm..well it corrected several errors, i umounted, then remounted, and i still cannot put or delete anything on it. |
17:16:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: Remove it from everywhere you can, then reboot, when you plug it in, it should auto-detect, do stuff, and then don't do anything more. It should show up as a removable drive. |
17:16:53 | Mikachu | bleaked: does it say there are no errors if you run it again? |
17:16:58 | bleaked | udo-. flac? |
17:17:23 | udo- | yes |
17:17:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | udo-: I think there's a .wv one in this patch, but that's it: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2939 |
17:17:33 | udo- | does that work well on an iRiver H120? |
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17:18:04 | romanos | is there any other way to reboot an ipod except menu and select for 5secs ? |
17:18:08 | udo- | aha, looks interesting Paul |
17:18:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | udo-: At the moment, with official rockbox builds the only method is to record to WAV, then run wav2wv or wav2mp3 on it afterward. |
17:18:17 | udo- | yes, OK. |
17:18:31 | bleaked | Mikachu. yea, it continually finds the same errors when i run the check..the last line of the fsck output is 'leaving filesystem unchanged' |
17:18:32 | udo- | I was wondering if on the H120 compressing is possible CPU-wise (if it can keep up) |
17:18:37 | Mikachu | bleaked: heh |
17:18:44 | Mikachu | bleaked: you have to give a switch to enable writing |
17:18:45 | udo- | and if it would benefit teh RAM->HD cycle |
17:18:46 | bleaked | Mikachu. i seriously think my system cannot do anything to the disk. |
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17:19:03 | Mikachu | bleaked: i think... |
17:19:06 | romanos | is there any other way to reboot an ipod except menu and select for 5secs ? |
17:19:19 | Mikachu | bleaked: maybe it's -r |
17:19:28 | romanos | why isn't that firmware browsing works? |
17:19:28 | Mikachu | bleaked: i haven't used it a lot though |
17:19:38 | bleaked | romanos. hold play until it turns off, then turn it back on. that's it really. |
17:21:10 | romanos | an idea to browse among the other firmwares when in rockbox would be awesome |
17:21:25 | romanos | dunno if someone's workin on it |
17:21:30 | udo- | I know live2496 does flac encoding on an ipaq. would be nice for rockbox |
17:21:36 | udo- | libflac could be used |
17:21:46 | Mikachu | don't ipaq have like 250mhz cpus? |
17:21:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | udo-: It's being planned, but other than that patch, no real work has been done on it. |
17:21:51 | bleaked | Mikachu. hey presto! it worked. ;) i have write access again. |
17:21:58 | Mikachu | bleaked: heh, good to know |
17:22:09 | Mikachu | bleaked: the −−help description for -r isn't very good so i wasn't sure |
17:22:12 | bleaked | though i had to run it three times |
17:22:21 | markun | Good news about the Kenwood HD20GA7 and HD30GA9. The changes to their linux source are identical to the ones of the Gigabeat players. |
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17:22:32 | udo- | yes Mikachu, and faster |
17:22:36 | udo- | dunno about iRiver |
17:22:56 | Mikachu | music players are probably usually a third of that speed |
17:22:58 | udo- | ok thanks Paul_The_Nerd |
17:23:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | udo-: 120mhz when boosted, on the iRiver. |
17:23:15 | udo- | so compressing on the fly is not doable |
17:23:25 | udo- | unless there is some support (codec/DSP) |
17:23:36 | Mikachu | i don't know how much cpu flac encoding needs |
17:23:42 | udo- | 120 Mhz. aha. |
17:23:50 | Mikachu | maybe the fastest mode is doable |
17:23:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | udo-: I already said it *is* doable. That patch I showed you should do encoding on the fly to lossless wavpack. |
17:24:09 | udo- | aha! |
17:24:17 | udo- | what % does that save +/-? |
17:24:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Similar to flac. |
17:24:26 | udo- | and does it help for battery? |
17:24:28 | udo- | aha |
17:24:44 | udo- | will have a look into that. |
17:24:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | And I don't know for battery, nobody's run any tests. |
17:25:04 | udo- | i.e.: current draw of packed/unpacked versus extra HD writes |
17:25:21 | udo- | thanks for the info |
17:25:42 | udo- | will have to do some tests when I get my H120. |
17:25:46 | udo- | bye, later |
17:25:51 | dpro | hrmmm ... does the emulator boot original firmware ? (would be nice with gdb to figure out things like the tv out on ipod video etc) |
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17:28:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | dpro: There is no emulator |
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17:28:41 | markun | dpro: the simulator is not an emulator |
17:28:48 | dpro | ah ok .. sorry |
17:28:53 | markun | It's only for testing high-level code |
17:28:54 | hydrahead | ok ive uninstalled evreything and both My Computer and Total Commander hang |
17:29:00 | dpro | ic |
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17:29:21 | hydrahead | i have a felling youre out of ideas :) |
17:29:55 | dpro | hmmm ... anyone tried to fumble with jtag on ipod ? |
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17:30:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: Nah, I still have some left. Burn a knoppix disk, mount it there, and reformat it in knoppix. |
17:30:25 | Mikachu | have we tried the logical disk manager? |
17:30:34 | Mikachu | or whatever it's called |
17:30:38 | dpro | or dos fdisk ? |
17:30:44 | hydrahead | knoppix, whats that? |
17:30:52 | dpro | a linux live cd |
17:30:52 | Mikachu | i doubt usb works in dos |
17:30:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Oooh... forgot about that. The problem seems to be though that windows hangs when trying to access it for any purpose at all. |
17:30:59 | dpro | mikachui: right ... |
17:31:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: It's a linux LiveCD. You can boot off of it and run linux without ever installing any files on your computer. When you reboot and remove the disk from the drive, you're back to normal without your HD ever being touched (unless you explicitly tell it to) |
17:31:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | hydrahead: The logical disk manager may be another good thing to try. I think it's in the "Administrative Tools" on control panel |
17:32:25 | Mikachu | you can just right cilck My Computer and select Manage |
17:32:54 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has never noticed that option before. |
17:33:22 | hydrahead | ok it says connecting to local disk manager service |
17:33:32 | * | dpro never had a chance to notice it |
17:34:34 | * | Paul_The_Nerd was just called an "accurist" as if wanting to be accurate was an insult... |
17:34:53 | hydrahead | it says drive f healthy |
17:35:30 | hydrahead | should i give it a label ? |
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17:35:43 | hydrahead | i pressed format so it asked me that |
17:35:44 | Mikachu | i'm pretty sure you can format it from there |
17:35:50 | Mikachu | label doesn't matter much |
17:35:56 | Mikachu | you can change that later if you want |
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17:36:38 | hydrahead | told it to format to fat |
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17:37:03 | julius | just a litle question, which CONFIG_KEYPAD is the correct one for ipod 5g? cos there isn't any IPOD_5G_PAD definition |
17:37:19 | Mikachu | i'm almost 100% sure it's the same as 4G |
17:37:35 | hydrahead | yay it says formatting in status |
17:38:29 | hydrahead | so after that's finished its okay to run a restore on it? |
17:38:54 | julius | Mikachu, ok, thanks |
17:39:00 | Mikachu | i don't know, i've never used restore |
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17:39:51 | hydrahead | it formatted the free space |
17:40:05 | hydrahead | what about this part of the disk where it says unallocated? |
17:40:15 | hydrahead | its gray colored and about 78mb |
17:40:25 | Mikachu | that is the boot partition, don't touch that |
17:40:37 | hydrahead | ok, leaving it be :) |
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17:41:17 | hydrahead | great I can now access it from my computer |
17:41:19 | Administrator | I have an iRiver hardware question, is it appropriate? |
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17:41:34 | hydrahead | if restore doesnt work ill just put rockbox on it |
17:41:36 | Davide-NYC | bad Nick, sorry |
17:41:40 | hydrahead | thanks mikachu! |
17:41:54 | Davide-NYC | I have an iRiver hardware question, is it appropriate? |
17:42:03 | Mikachu | hope it works |
17:45:23 | Davide-NYC | hmm the deafening silence |
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17:49:07 | dpro | is there a way to stop playback after the current song ? (would be nicer for djing than having to worry that it'll just start the next track) |
17:50:23 | preglow | djs should already be used to that |
17:50:58 | dpro | preglow: yeah but still why make it less convienient than it could be ? |
17:51:12 | preglow | well, how would you suggest we implement it? |
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17:51:47 | dpro | preglow: just a playback option that will not automatically advance in the playlist od the current dir |
17:51:50 | hydrahead | iDJ with clickwheel scratching :)) |
17:52:05 | dpro | hydrahead: exactly ... |
17:52:10 | preglow | that sounds like a really redundant option to me |
17:52:29 | dpro | preglow: never mind, than I'll stick it in my private patch |
17:52:47 | preglow | all the djs i know sure as hell are used to it anyway, since most of them use vinyl or dds |
17:52:50 | preglow | cds |
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17:53:13 | preglow | but no, i don't think such an option would see wide support among the devs |
17:53:24 | dpro | preglow: yeah and 90% of my vinyls have one track on the good side and much longer pauses between tracks |
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17:53:55 | preglow | dpro: yep, true enough, but i still don't see the problem |
17:54:07 | preglow | you know when the track is going to end anyway, if you're good at crossfading and beatmatching |
17:54:18 | preglow | so you know when the track is done |
17:54:32 | dpro | if I ping -pong with an non ipod person, they'll forget to fade the ipod out 80% of the time .. that's enough to justify it for me ;) |
17:54:41 | preglow | heh |
17:55:07 | dpro | + all dj cd players do it that way |
17:55:56 | dpro | AFAIK most digital dj software will also by default act this way |
17:56:22 | dpro | they can't be all idiots ;) |
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17:57:46 | dpro | preglow: what does the general settings -> playback -> repeat = off option do anyway ? |
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17:58:15 | * | dpro but I don't feel like putting every file in it's own subdir ... that sounds a bit crufty |
17:59:12 | dpro | but that's where I would put it ... either an auto-advance off/on (on by default) or stick it in the repeat submenu (no-auto-advance) |
17:59:29 | preglow | dpro: just turns of repeat |
17:59:30 | dpro | that shouldn't really hurt anyone much |
17:59:32 | preglow | dpro: normal playback |
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18:01:30 | hydrahead | Hey Mikachu, maybe you can help me out on one last thing |
18:02:06 | hydrahead | i start the updater and now it can see the ipod, but when i try to restore it it says it cant lock the ipod because another application is using it |
18:02:11 | hydrahead | but i have no idea wich |
18:02:24 | Mikachu | i have seen 'no playlist advance' in a lot of audio player programs |
18:02:32 | Mikachu | hydrahead: can't help there |
18:02:47 | hydrahead | ok thanks anyway |
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18:04:19 | dpro | all the code should be in playlist.c ? |
18:04:43 | Mikachu | i would guess playback.c |
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18:07:28 | hydrahead | I did it! Finally! Thanks folks for your help |
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18:07:47 | Mikachu | hydrahead: what was it? |
18:07:59 | Davide-NYC | Quick question, does Rockbox support the H300 LCD remote for iRiver targets? |
18:08:20 | hydrahead | well I installed the ipod update on a second computer and it had no interference there |
18:08:26 | Mikachu | ah |
18:08:53 | hydrahead | so from now on if anything goes wrong at least i know it isnt because of the ipod |
18:09:58 | hydrahead | but i really dont get it why it bugged out in the first place, the updater must have screwed up the partition |
18:11:11 | Davide-NYC | hello, new to IRC, is this visible? |
18:11:19 | hydrahead | yes it is |
18:11:26 | Davide-NYC | was it before? |
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18:11:59 | hydrahead | affirmative |
18:12:04 | Davide-NYC | haha |
18:12:04 | dpro | Davide-NYC: the quick question ? yes ! |
18:12:23 | dpro | Davide-NYC: but I honestly don't know the answer |
18:13:02 | Davide-NYC | hysterical, I see... Thanks I thought I neede to register, set passwords, figure out IRC, interface with Nickserv, etc etc. |
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18:13:41 | Davide-NYC | How do I query the devs about this without being obnoxious, I've serach the forums and the tracker and found nothing (yet) |
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18:16:48 | bluebrother | *is* there a h300 remote with lcd? AFAIK it's the same as the h100 which is supported. |
18:17:33 | petur | there is a h300 lcd remote and rockbox should support it |
18:17:53 | petur | I guess you're asking if it's supported on h1x0 :P |
18:17:56 | bluebrother | meaning that is different to the h100 remote? |
18:19:42 | bluebrother | reading from the DeviceChart page looks to me as the h300 remote shipped is the same as the h100 remote |
18:22:08 | Davide-NYC | no there's a Joystick remote with LCD hold for linky |
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18:22:23 | Davide-NYC | http://www.misticriver.net/photos/thumbnails.php?album=364 |
18:22:40 | ManaSama | why is it so hard to make a playlist |
18:22:44 | ManaSama | it added everything T_T |
18:22:46 | Davide-NYC | I'm hoing to use this remote with an iHP-140 |
18:23:09 | ManaSama | is it possible to make a regular playlist? |
18:23:18 | ManaSama | for ipod video rockbox |
18:23:29 | dpro | let me check this guys ... if I add a no-advance option to the repeat submenu I can just add it to gwps.c and all is fine right ? (no one should be overly bothered by that, and I can keep it as a patch anyway ...) |
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18:23:51 | Davide-NYC | The benfit to this remote IMHO is that the controls shoudl map 1to1 from the unit. |
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18:24:19 | bluebrother | wasn't aware of that remote. Looks way better than the h100 remote IMO :) |
18:24:38 | ManaSama | its good to instal the new patch everyday right? |
18:24:44 | dpassen1 | Looks like the headphone out is on the opposite side! |
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18:25:26 | Cassandra | Ah good - we are extending the freeze I take it then. |
18:25:41 | Bagder | Cassandra: yes, two weeks to start with |
18:25:45 | * | Cassandra has been ill. I hate CFS. |
18:25:51 | Cassandra | Sorry for not being around. |
18:26:09 | Cassandra | Bagder, sounds good. I've got a couple of things I've been sitting on. |
18:26:20 | ManaSama | should i be installing the new patches everydau to my video ipod? |
18:26:27 | Cassandra | Half way through fixing the bundled WPS scripts, for exampole. |
18:26:36 | Cassandra | ManaSama, up to you really. |
18:26:57 | ManaSama | ok |
18:27:10 | ManaSama | cassandra u know how to make a playlist? i try and ti adds everything |
18:27:21 | Cassandra | And I really wanted to get a more polished boxes ready. Particularly for the H3xx. |
18:28:02 | Cassandra | ManaSama, you need to use the context menu - try a long press on play then "insert track". |
18:28:20 | ManaSama | ^^ |
18:28:26 | Cassandra | Not to mention the installer. |
18:28:34 | ManaSama | contexzt menu? |
18:28:42 | * | Cassandra hopes the next two weeks aren't going to get too busy. |
18:28:56 | Mikachu | ManaSama: maybe the manual would be a good first stop |
18:29:06 | ManaSama | i tied |
18:29:13 | ManaSama | tried manual doesnt help at all |
18:29:17 | ManaSama | people who know help ^^ |
18:29:27 | Cassandra | ManaSama, try a long press on play from the file browser with an MP3 file selected. The thing that comes up is the context menu. |
18:29:37 | ManaSama | ok than alot^^ |
18:30:22 | preglow | any spdif recorders here currently? |
18:30:23 | Cassandra | Bagder, anyway, I've gotta dash. Just wanted to make sure nothing was blocking on me. |
18:30:40 | Cassandra | See you guys soon, hopefullyl |
18:30:45 | preglow | Cassandra: bye |
18:30:54 | Cassandra | bye preglow. |
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18:31:30 | bluebrother | ManaSama: the manual calls it "file menu" |
18:31:50 | ManaSama | ^^ |
18:31:52 | bluebrother | it's in section 2.2.2 atm |
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18:32:50 | Davide-NYC | yes preglow |
18:33:08 | Davide-NYC | I could help with that but I need a day or so to sort out my gear |
18:34:13 | preglow | ahh, yeah, i mean right now |
18:34:21 | preglow | but no worries, i've got some more testing to do here anyway |
18:34:32 | Davide-NYC | urghh hold on let me see what I can do |
18:34:49 | ManaSama | ahh |
18:34:55 | ManaSama | i hold the play button and it shuts down |
18:35:19 | Mikachu | what player are you using? |
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18:35:57 | ManaSama | ipod video |
18:36:05 | ManaSama | im trying to add songs to a playlist 1 by one |
18:36:05 | Mikachu | then she probably meant select, not play |
18:36:11 | ManaSama | ok |
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18:38:09 | Dgently | Howdy all. |
18:38:48 | Dgently | I have a quick (I hope) question about the rombox build for the old FM recorder. |
18:39:02 | Dgently | Anyone know why it stopped being built on 4/10? |
18:40:16 | Mikachu | it got too big i think |
18:40:17 | ManaSama | omg sorry hmm how do i view the playlist after i have "insert" it |
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18:40:30 | ManaSama | OH |
18:40:32 | ManaSama | never mind |
18:41:40 | Dgently | again? dangit. Thanks. |
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18:44:57 | ManaSama | people think my ipod is so amazing now |
18:45:00 | ManaSama | haha |
18:45:10 | ManaSama | everyone is like wow ur ipod isnt liek anyone eles;s |
18:45:15 | ManaSama | lol |
18:45:23 | ManaSama | thanx u guys!! |
18:45:24 | ManaSama | haha |
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18:46:13 | dpro | hehe ... I actually still think about having "I voided the warranty" etched onto the back ;) |
18:47:12 | ManaSama | hahah |
18:47:16 | ManaSama | by adding rockbox? |
18:47:19 | dpro | BTW something must have changed in the play/pause code in recent cvs because now it works almost perfectly (at least a lot more predictable than say a few weeks ago) |
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19:20:16 | preglow | sweet lord |
19:20:33 | preglow | having to reboot everytime linux can't stand any more usb is just marvelous |
19:21:20 | dpro | hehe preglow: huh ? |
19:21:30 | dpro | no hehe ... sorry |
19:21:50 | dpro | preglow: what ? (that's what I meant to write) |
19:21:51 | klrspz | can't remove the module and reload it? |
19:21:57 | preglow | the module has hung |
19:22:01 | preglow | can't remove it |
19:22:11 | dpro | rmmod -f even ? |
19:22:15 | preglow | doesn't work, it hangs |
19:22:48 | preglow | reboot |
19:22:53 | dpro | that is bad ... but hasn't happened to me in ages .. what kernel version ? is there any process / other module still using it ? |
19:22:55 | Mikachu | preglow: are you running eject before you unplug? |
19:23:29 | dpro | preglow: or umount ... |
19:23:35 | Mikachu | no, eject |
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19:31:16 | preglow | eject? |
19:31:21 | preglow | i've never used eject, only pumount |
19:31:38 | preglow | the odd time i forget it, usb will never work until i reboot |
19:31:53 | preglow | also, if i plug in when i'm in a screen that doesn't respond to usb, like the debug screen |
19:32:01 | preglow | the whole fucking hub driver just crashes |
19:32:24 | preglow | even windows with its retard usb handling deals with it better |
19:32:51 | Mikachu | preglow: use eject /dev/sda or whatever your device is, and it will work a lot better |
19:33:35 | dpro | preglow: I don't have these problems here ... even if I should forget to sync/ umount |
19:33:57 | preglow | Mikachu: why? |
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19:36:26 | preglow | haahha |
19:36:33 | preglow | why doesn't my h120 mount anymore? |
19:36:35 | preglow | this is marvelous |
19:36:46 | preglow | Mikachu: doesn't look like eject does anything, btw |
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19:50:36 | XavierGr | using USB in linux sounds a bit nasty |
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19:51:04 | dpro | usb with linux is just fine ... |
19:55:03 | Galois | it's not that bad |
19:55:09 | * | goffa_ has no problem with it in lin |
19:55:18 | Galois | I have forgotten to umount a few times. No harm no foul. |
19:55:19 | goffa_ | you just have to remember to mount/unmount the device |
19:55:37 | goffa_ | but again like Galois says.. no harm no foul if you forget to unmount |
19:55:56 | Galois | most of the competent distributions have hotplug scripts for automounting ipods |
19:56:16 | goffa_ | yeah... i use lfs... so its me thats not competent :) |
19:56:24 | goffa_ | actually just too lazy to implement something |
19:57:26 | dpro | hehe ... I hate all this auto- business - I know what I want and I don't always want it to mount all the partitions f.e. |
19:57:58 | goffa_ | yeah dpro thats part of my laziness |
19:58:49 | dpro | goffa: what's so bad about mount /dev/sda2 /mnt - like how much faster can it get (and imagine bash auto completion ;) |
19:59:28 | Galois | sda2 should never change. The only reason it changes is because linux's scsi implementation sucks. |
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20:00:04 | dpro | galois: hmmm ... well it's of course not as advanced as dos' ;) |
20:00:40 | Galois | I am willing to type one of either the device node or the mount path. Not both. |
20:01:24 | dpro | well there's fstab for that |
20:01:38 | Galois | fstab works well if the device node never changes. See previous comment. |
20:02:24 | dpro | why ? you can have many many entries called /mnt/sda2 for example (but granted a little scripting makes this more convenient) |
20:02:57 | dpro | I have a podmount script that looks ist up and mounts the vfat partition as /mnt/ipod |
20:04:07 | Galois | scripts don't play well with non-root users. |
20:05:19 | dpro | su -c works for me (i'm the paranoid type that rather enters a password one time too many) |
20:05:53 | Galois | I used to think that way until I typed out my root password on irc once |
20:06:29 | dpro | hmm that never happens to me with auto-raise window managment ;) |
20:07:27 | * | dpro goest to pickup his pizza |
20:07:42 | ze | my aterm text brightens significantly for the one in focus vs the ones without focus |
20:08:05 | ze | its a nice obvious indicator |
20:08:14 | ze | particularly considering i've done away with titlebars |
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20:12:18 | Mikachu | preglow: what linux version are you on? |
20:13:43 | Mikachu | Galois: fstab works fine |
20:13:56 | Mikachu | Galois: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Apple_iPod_000A2700123F013D-part2 /mnt/ipod vfat noauto,users,gid=users,uid=mikaelh,nodev,nosuid,noexec,utf8 |
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20:16:38 | Galois | Mikachu: to be honest, if that's the price to pay, I'd rather use sda2 |
20:17:40 | Mikachu | Galois: feel free to make a symlink in /dev/ipod |
20:17:48 | Mikachu | besides, you can type mount /mnt/ipod |
20:18:07 | Mikachu | Galois: there is also /dev/disk/by-label/ipod |
20:18:23 | Mikachu | but my disk label seems to have disappeared |
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20:24:10 | XavierGr | does anyone know an audio editing program like audacity that will let me trim an mp3 instead of reencode it? |
20:24:35 | Mikachu | http://freshmeat.net/search?q=mp3+split |
20:24:44 | klrspz | i use goldwave for all my audio shiz |
20:26:58 | Dgently | Thanks for the help earlier. |
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20:31:22 | preglow | Mikachu: 2.6.12 ubuntu |
20:32:00 | Mikachu | that should support usb device ejecting i think |
20:32:14 | Mikachu | does it still display the do not unplug thing after you run it? |
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20:35:28 | preglow | it doesn't display anything |
20:35:29 | preglow | it just fails |
20:35:37 | preglow | eject just doesn't seem to do anything at all when run |
20:35:55 | preglow | and right now i can't even make the bloody automounting work again |
20:36:55 | twisted` | Mikachu: that's the geekiest fstab I have _ever_ seen |
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20:37:10 | Mikachu | twisted`: ??? |
20:37:17 | twisted` | Mikachu: 20:13:57 < Mikachu> Galois: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Apple_iPod_000A2700123F013D-part2 /mnt/ipod vfat noauto,users,gid=users,uid=mikaelh,nodev,nosuid,noexec,utf8 |
20:37:25 | Mikachu | yes i know what you were referring to |
20:37:35 | twisted` | I mean... damn |
20:37:42 | Mikachu | yeah, tab complete is really something |
20:37:47 | twisted` | bad sharpe, not being here... |
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20:38:07 | Mikachu | leave a message |
20:38:10 | twisted` | where? |
20:38:13 | twisted` | and how? |
20:38:23 | Mikachu | msg memoserv help |
20:38:45 | RedBreva | petur: http://rockbox-themes.redbreva.com/Theme_320x240x16.html ;-) |
20:38:53 | twisted` | Mikachu: k |
20:39:01 | RedBreva | Overlib'd as suggested... |
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20:39:11 | petur | n i c e |
20:39:33 | RedBreva | :D |
20:39:37 | preglow | nice looking indeed |
20:39:48 | petur | I think it has some setting so the floater always stays on screen |
20:39:49 | klrspz | you can't use conditions on the peak meters can you (for wps generation) ? |
20:40:03 | preglow | when i press the pictures something flickers on the screen |
20:40:04 | preglow | what's up? |
20:40:17 | Mikachu | preglow: hold down |
20:40:28 | petur | javascript ;) |
20:40:36 | RedBreva | it has, but at present it's set to only display whilst the mouse is held down... |
20:40:43 | preglow | roit |
20:40:52 | Mikachu | it bugs out a bit if you drag while holding down |
20:40:52 | preglow | doesn't it make more sense with a mouseover or something? |
20:41:14 | preglow | ahaha, i've now got a wps stuck to my mouse cursor |
20:41:19 | RedBreva | not for dial up users, who would keep getting 50 k images pop up |
20:41:37 | Mikachu | preglow: heh |
20:41:44 | inteliwasp | i have an ipod 4G running 060426 and the music keeps pausing the resuming every few seconds, this has happened on multiple versions, can i fix it? |
20:42:00 | RedBreva | I will look at the rest of the setting soon and make it stick with a close option (I think!) |
20:42:00 | Mikachu | inteliwasp: disable eq and use a wps without peakmeters |
20:42:06 | klrspz | also, what about the status bar.. what exactly is that? i see how to turn it off in WPS, but it doesn't indicate what it is exactly or how to add things to the status bar? am i missing something? |
20:42:25 | Mikachu | klrspz: the status bar is hardcoded i believe |
20:42:27 | inteliwasp | Mikachu: is the EQ disabled by default? |
20:42:31 | Mikachu | inteliwasp: yes |
20:42:34 | klrspz | but i'm more interested in peak meters |
20:42:41 | klrspz | Mikachu, meaning you can't do anything except enable/disable? |
20:42:44 | inteliwasp | i mean isn't it? |
20:42:56 | Mikachu | klrspz: i think so |
20:43:07 | Mikachu | inteliwasp: are you using peak meters? |
20:43:24 | inteliwasp | Mikachu: yes |
20:43:30 | linuxstb | julius: The newer versions of the rockcalendar patch already have ipod key mappings - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4760 I'm guessing you're trying to port an older version. |
20:43:32 | Mikachu | that's probably your problem then |
20:43:52 | RedBreva | OK, Saturday's "Dr Who" awaits... Later guys |
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20:44:05 | inteliwasp | Mikachu: i'll try that, brb to get my ipod... :) |
20:44:27 | klrspz | wait what? |
20:44:48 | klrspz | oh nm i see |
20:45:06 | klrspz | so are peakmeters not really wanted? |
20:45:34 | klrspz | cuz i had a killer idea for a wps with the peak meter -IF- the conditional stuff worked with it.. but i'm not finding anything on it |
20:45:44 | julius | linuxstb, thanks for the notifications, I already found it, and I just changed a few if-es and it works like a charm under my 5g |
20:45:45 | bluebrother | hardeep: I just tried the "resume playback on startup", seems to work fine again now :) |
20:46:02 | linuxstb | julius: What needed changing? |
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20:46:18 | julius | linuxstb, I now ported rockword to 5g too, but it is a messy hack, so I wont make a patch from it |
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20:46:40 | julius | linuxstb, there were limitations to display widht 220 and so on which had to be changed to 320 |
20:47:57 | julius | linuxstb, btw: I like tha way writing is done in rockcalendar, it a lot better the the others one, I can write a lot faster and smarter :) |
20:48:19 | julius | linuxstb, thanks for your help on the itrip, did you read it that I managed to get it to work? |
20:48:36 | inteliwasp | Mikachu: um hw do i turn it off? |
20:48:44 | linuxstb | No, I didn't. Congratulations. Are you going to submit a patch? |
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20:50:11 | julius | linuxstb, it's not so easy :) the patch with the power supply works fine, but for the moment the guys at ipodlinux say that there is no serail support for the 5g, and for our lucky, the itrip only powers on if you send the play signal throught the serial, so for the moment there is no way to do this. |
20:50:54 | linuxstb | I thought you just said it was working? |
20:52:24 | julius | linuxstb, but I found out which pin is used for the power supply, and if you turn on the itrip using the original firmware and than you just connect the itrip to a litle 3v battery for the time you reboot the ipod, it will work out of the box :), so I just attached a litle battery to my itrip and now I can use it without any problem |
20:52:40 | linuxstb | OK :) |
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20:53:22 | linuxstb | Did you work out which of those three ipod_i2c_send() commands enables the power pin in the dock connector? |
20:53:34 | klrspz | Mikachu, what IS the status bar in the WPS? |
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20:54:00 | klrspz | Mikachu, it seems like the battery/repeat images and such are no different than any other line, so what exactly does it do? |
20:54:04 | julius | linuxstb, not yet, but I will do that in the next few hours and send you the info (will you be here for this time?) |
20:54:28 | linuxstb | I'm normally logged in 24-hours a day.... |
20:55:15 | julius | linuxstb, ok, thats greate, I didn't know that |
20:57:14 | preglow | arhghg |
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20:58:38 | preglow | i'm trying to enable the spdif symbol and parity error interrupts, but i can't bloody enable _any_ of the sound module interrupts |
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21:00:09 | MarcoPolo | is the playback fully working now ? |
21:00:21 | preglow | more or less |
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21:03:15 | Lear | There are some seeking issues, I think... |
21:06:19 | XavierGr | I don't know about you, but I keep hearing artifacts when I cahnge a track with left/right |
21:06:35 | XavierGr | Paul and lostlogic insist on the opposite though |
21:06:44 | Lear | Format? |
21:06:57 | bluebrother | MarcoPolo: what do you mean with "fully working"? Which device? |
21:07:06 | MarcoPolo | ipod |
21:07:20 | MarcoPolo | (5G) |
21:07:27 | MarcoPolo | the last one playback.c that I have only loads two tracks in the buffer |
21:07:28 | bluebrother | hmm, I don't have an ipod. iriver works pretty well for me :) |
21:09:11 | MarcoPolo | ok |
21:09:16 | MarcoPolo | the last cvs works well |
21:09:19 | MarcoPolo | good job :) |
21:09:31 | XavierGr | Lear: ogg wav and mp3 |
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21:13:13 | preglow | i love gcc |
21:13:23 | preglow | it does useless memory moves in the recording code |
21:13:45 | inteliwasp | how do i disable the peak meter? |
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21:14:55 | XavierGr | inteliwasp: use a WPS without one |
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21:15:18 | romanos | geia soy re xavier trele |
21:15:20 | romanos | lol |
21:15:35 | XavierGr | romanos: please in English! |
21:15:40 | romanos | :P |
21:15:40 | XavierGr | or else PM |
21:15:53 | dpro | hehe |
21:16:00 | dpro | xexe ;) |
21:16:00 | romanos | same as your cousin :) |
21:16:13 | inteliwasp | XavierGr: know of one that looks like the default one w/o peak and has the next few songs? |
21:16:15 | XavierGr | romanos: exactly :p |
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21:17:45 | XavierGr | inteliwasp: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
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21:19:45 | romanos | damn.. i really can't express my self in english... |
21:20:51 | XavierGr | why? your english seem to be good... |
21:21:06 | romanos | lol |
21:21:27 | romanos | i'm just talkin about phrasial verbs :P |
21:22:02 | romanos | come christ and holy mary |
21:22:08 | romanos | ela xriste kai panagia |
21:22:11 | romanos | HAHHAHAH |
21:22:18 | XavierGr | heh |
21:22:25 | inteliwasp | XavierGr: i'm looking at it, but there is nop section for the 4G ipod grey... :'( |
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21:23:17 | XavierGr | inteliwasp: all work for all targets, unless there is too many info in them that it won't fit your screen |
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21:31:06 | petur | inteliwasp: the lcd is the same as iriver H1x0, so use one of these: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH100 |
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21:40:00 | klrspz | who had the request for the black/red WPS screen for the nanopod? |
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21:49:56 | mzilikazi | so the wiki seems to say that rockbox does nto work on 1g ipods at all - this is still true? |
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21:50:07 | preglow | yes |
21:50:08 | preglow | very |
21:50:17 | mzilikazi | oki |
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21:52:29 | klrspz | works on my 1g nanopod |
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21:54:49 | petur | wiki 1g = 1 generation, not 1GB ! |
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21:58:52 | julius | linuxstb, ok, I checked out the things, and here is the situation: |
21:59:21 | julius | linuxstb, ipod_i2c_send(0x8, 0x24, 0xf5); Activates Power on: Pin 25, 27: 2.8V; Pin 12: 1.8V |
21:59:45 | klrspz | oh i see |
21:59:46 | klrspz | my bad |
21:59:50 | julius | linuxstb, ipod_i2c_send(0x8, 0x25, 0xf8); Activates Power on: Pin 17: 3V; Pin 25, 27: 2.8V; Pin 12: 2V; |
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22:00:10 | julius | linuxstb, ipod_i2c_send(0x8, 0x26, 0xf5); on Pin 25, 27: 2.8V; Pin 12: 1.8V; |
22:00:50 | julius | linuxstb, itrip uses only Pin 17 which has 3V, so ipod_i2c_send(0x8, 0x25, 0xf8); is the correct one I think |
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22:05:30 | XavierGr | when lostlogic will be back? |
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22:07:01 | petur | today or tomorrow |
22:07:34 | petur | most probably the latter |
22:07:35 | XavierGr | I think I am gonna record some track changes and send him the audio file to see what I am talking about. |
22:07:42 | romanos | hi.. anyone knows how to get a .fnt file font to ipl ? |
22:08:44 | preglow | #ipodlinux |
22:08:50 | romanos | yeah |
22:08:56 | romanos | no one's answering |
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22:14:13 | Mikachu | inteliwasp: just choose another wps |
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22:19:17 | inteliwasp | so i'm in the process of making my own wps, is it posible to have more than one "next song" ie: the next 3 or 4 songs? |
22:19:42 | Mikachu | i don't think so |
22:19:48 | inteliwasp | :( |
22:19:53 | Mikachu | but you can View Playlist |
22:20:30 | inteliwasp | true, but i want to glance at one screen quickly b/c i am driving :P |
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22:25:00 | Mikachu | shouldn't be impossible to implement |
22:25:33 | * | inteliwasp ponder about putting in the request now or later... |
22:26:07 | linuxstb | julius: Thanks - I'll try and commit them to CVS this evening so we don't forget them. |
22:26:50 | inteliwasp | i noticed that there are 2 diffrent versions of the default display, witch one do i chose to edit for my ipod 4G? |
22:28:14 | Mikachu | ? |
22:28:32 | inteliwasp | there is recorder and player defaults |
22:28:51 | Mikachu | you might as well make a completely new one with the tags you want |
22:29:01 | Mikachu | or chose an ipod 4g theme that looks about right from the wps gallery |
22:29:11 | Mikachu | or one of these http://rockbox-themes.redbreva.com/ |
22:30:05 | julius | linuxstb, no problem, you're more than welcome! anytime, anywhere :) |
22:30:05 | inteliwasp | i like the default one the best, but my skill at making something new is horid, but editing an exiting file i am great |
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22:30:39 | * | petur loves to edit exiting files :P |
22:31:11 | romanos | linux, have u got any idea on how to get .fnt fonts on ipl? |
22:31:35 | romanos | kan i get to my ext partition through windows? |
22:31:47 | romanos | i need access to usr |
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22:32:17 | linuxstb | romanos: No idea. |
22:32:25 | romanos | damn |
22:32:42 | romanos | have to boot into a live cd then |
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22:33:35 | Suntiger | Hey all. Any commit-access devs here? |
22:33:48 | preglow | yes |
22:34:00 | Suntiger | Just thought I'd call attention to this: |
22:34:07 | Suntiger | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5061 |
22:34:27 | Suntiger | There's been a fairly egregious error in the JPEG plugin for a while now |
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22:34:56 | Suntiger | I've posted, on that Flyspray page, edits that fix it, but no one seems to have noticed |
22:34:58 | Mikachu | yes, _PRE with a button combo is stupid |
22:35:07 | Mikachu | it does work, but you have to press the buttons at the _exact_ same time |
22:35:13 | * | Suntiger shrugs |
22:35:18 | Suntiger | Jdgordon seems to like those |
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22:35:36 | Suntiger | I like his patches, but yeah, that particular bit is nearly impossible to use |
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22:37:18 | Suntiger | So yeah, anyways. Any chance that can be fixed in CVS? |
22:38:01 | preglow | i'll check it out eventually if no one else beats me to it, i can't test it right now |
22:38:15 | bluebrother | linuxstb: there is a ext2 driver for windows with write support: http://www.fs-driver.org |
22:38:30 | Suntiger | Aight, thanks preglow. All I really wanted was for someone to at least know it was there... |
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22:40:14 | preglow | i've noticed the problem myself, just didn't care enough to try fixing, heh |
22:40:16 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Thanks, but I think romanos is the person to tell... |
22:40:39 | bluebrother | oops, wrong one ;-) |
22:41:12 | bluebrother | romanos seems to have left. Never mind ... |
22:41:14 | inteliwasp | i made a wps but how do i "play" it to activate it? |
22:41:17 | Suntiger | See, minor shit like that is my thing... I take a look, and if I see something that looks like it could be causing the problem, I test. In this case, at least, I was right |
22:41:32 | Suntiger | Inteliwasp: Menu -> Browse Themes |
22:41:49 | petur | inteliwasp: copy it into the wsp folder first of course |
22:41:59 | inteliwasp | it does not show mine |
22:42:09 | inteliwasp | it is there |
22:42:10 | Suntiger | Yep, petur was right. Sorry |
22:42:17 | bluebrother | inteliwasp: if it's only a wps: General Settings -> Display -> browse .wps files |
22:42:46 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I guess he's busy rebooting into Linux... |
22:43:02 | bluebrother | hehe :) |
22:43:08 | inteliwasp | :D yay it works! thanks! |
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22:43:37 | julius | it may be the wrong place, but do someone knows why I get "malformed patch at line 59" when I try to apply the doom_scroll3.patch from here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5153 |
22:44:05 | linuxstb | Most likely a DOS/Unix text file issue. |
22:44:22 | Suntiger | I thought the patch tool fixed that automatically? |
22:44:38 | Mikachu | no, the patch is broken |
22:44:40 | Suntiger | Or at least, I've seen patch convert from DOS to UNIX at least once in VMware |
22:44:41 | Mikachu | at line 59 |
22:44:48 | Mikachu | julius: change ,10 to ,9 |
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22:45:04 | Bagder | amiconn: around? |
22:45:07 | Mikachu | julius: on line 49 |
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22:46:05 | julius | Mikachu, yep, it worked, thanks a lot! |
22:46:25 | Mikachu | np |
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22:48:09 | amiconn | Bagder: Now I am |
22:48:33 | Bagder | amiconn: you ready to take the gcc4 for sh jump? |
22:48:47 | amiconn | I am. Are you? |
22:48:52 | Bagder | yes |
22:49:18 | linuxstb | Do you need more build servers to do it? (e.g. me?) |
22:49:18 | amiconn | I just need to edit the path in acbuild.pl to switch to gcc 4.0.3 |
22:49:48 | Bagder | linuxstb: yes please |
22:50:23 | amiconn | The patch is available at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
22:50:27 | Bagder | ok, so I update the main build server first to 4.0.3-patched |
22:50:37 | Bagder | then we can commit the configure fix |
22:50:54 | linuxstb | OK, I'll start compiling now. |
22:51:16 | amiconn | I also tried 4.1.0, it gives a minimal improvement compared to 4.0.3, but throws a couple of new warnings |
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22:51:50 | amiconn | I think we should stick to 4.0.3 for now |
22:51:51 | Bagder | sh-elf-gcc −−version |
22:51:51 | Bagder | sh-elf-gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (rockbox patch #1) |
22:51:56 | amiconn | :) |
22:52:35 | amiconn | Let's bring back rombox for fmrecorder and recorder v2! :-) |
22:52:52 | Mikachu | this is a silly question, but what is rombox? |
22:53:06 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RomBox |
22:53:15 | Mikachu | ah |
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22:55:15 | amiconn | Bagder: Iirc Linus built the cygwin gcc packages. These will need updating, as well as the vmware image. |
22:55:23 | Bagder | indeed |
22:55:27 | amiconn | Now if I knew how to make cygwin packages... |
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22:55:51 | amiconn | ...I already have sh-elf-gcc 4.0.3-patched for cygwin |
22:57:00 | Lear | amiconn: that patch is specific for sh-elf? (I guess it's the one you talked about a couple of days ago...) |
22:57:26 | inteliwasp | Mikachu: after useing my new ubber wps :P no skipping i guess the peak meter needs some twiking... |
22:57:32 | amiconn | yes, although it doesn't hurt when building other crosscompilers |
22:57:38 | Mikachu | inteliwasp: yep |
22:57:57 | amiconn | (then the version string is th eonly thing that changes) |
22:57:57 | linuxstb | amiconn: Did you get about 7 warnings of the form "../../gcc-4.0.3/gcc/config/sh/sh.md:3466: warning: operand 1 missing mode? |
22:57:57 | linuxstb | " |
22:58:14 | amiconn | These warnings are normal when building gcc... |
22:58:23 | linuxstb | OK... |
22:58:35 | amiconn | My patch doesn't even touch sh.md, it only touches sh.h (and version.c) |
22:59:04 | amiconn | The Right Thing would be to fix final.c, but I have no idea how |
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23:00:35 | linuxstb | My 4.0.3 build has failed with "as: unrecognised option `-big'" |
23:00:39 | romanos | hi. if i use disk defragmenter , will that mess my ipod? |
23:00:52 | amiconn | linuxstb: Oh? |
23:00:55 | petur | romanos: that will be sloooow |
23:01:05 | amiconn | Do you have the correct as in the path? |
23:01:15 | romanos | will do any good job though? |
23:01:26 | linuxstb | I've got my native as, plus sh-elf-as from binutils-2.16 |
23:01:37 | amiconn | I think gcc configure goofs when it doesn't find sh-elf-as |
23:02:09 | Mikachu | you could try putting sh-elf/bin first in your path maybe? |
23:02:13 | linuxstb | The command it fails on is: /home/dave/BUILD/build-gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/home/dave/BUILD/build-gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sh-1/bin//sh-elf/bin/ -B/usr/local/sh-1/bin//sh-elf/lib/ -isystem /usr/local/sh-1/bin//sh-elf/include -isystem /usr/local/sh-1/bin//sh-elf/sys-include -c -o crt1.o -x assembler-with-cpp ../../gcc-4.0.3/gcc/config/sh/crt1.asm |
23:02:28 | Mikachu | is as binutils or gcc? |
23:02:28 | petur | romanos: it's probably faster to delete all files and copy them back (you must of course have a copy of the files on your pc) |
23:02:46 | amiconn | as is binutils |
23:03:12 | romanos | thanx |
23:03:12 | Mikachu | that looks like the path is right |
23:03:13 | preglow | amiconn: hi, how would we discover the input sample rate when spdif recording on archos? |
23:03:17 | amiconn | linuxstb: sh-elf-as −−version |
23:03:30 | linuxstb | GNU assembler 2.16 |
23:03:37 | romanos | i should get a 4gb nano :( |
23:03:49 | romanos | now i'm starting regreet it |
23:03:58 | amiconn | linuxstb: Hmm. I'm using 2.16.1, like for all other targets |
23:04:01 | romanos | that i got a 2 |
23:04:18 | linuxstb | I think it's trying to execute "as", but finding my native one first, instead of sh-elf-as. I'll change the PATH order. |
23:04:24 | amiconn | linuxstb: Does sh-elf-as −−help show you the -big option? |
23:04:25 | linuxstb | (as Mikachu suggested) |
23:04:45 | linuxstb | amiconn: I tried typing "as -big" (error), and "sh-elf-as -big" (waits for input) |
23:04:55 | amiconn | ah |
23:04:59 | Mikachu | it's possible that it could have a bad effect if it uses x86 as to produce intermediate building binaries |
23:05:03 | amiconn | gcc configure problem then |
23:05:25 | amiconn | Mikachu: I didn't observe such effects. |
23:05:45 | amiconn | I have all my cross-build bin/ dirs before others in the path |
23:06:15 | Mikachu | the bin with as or the bin with sh-elf-as? |
23:06:15 | * | amiconn just discovered a nice option... |
23:06:47 | amiconn | jens@transpluto:~/rb-patched$ echo $PATH |
23:06:47 | amiconn | /opt/m68k/bin:/opt/sh/bin:/opt/arm/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
23:07:10 | Mikachu | i would guess that's the ones with $target-as then |
23:07:23 | * | linuxstb found his mistake - I set −−prefix to include the /bin... |
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23:07:55 | * | linuxstb tries again. |
23:08:51 | Bagder | now rockbox.org, www.haxx.se and bygg.haxx.se are all running 4.0.3-patched for sh-elf |
23:09:20 | romanos | dfragment took me about 5 minutes with 1,2 gigs petur.. quite smoothly i have to say |
23:09:34 | preglow | amiconn: ping |
23:09:46 | amiconn | preglow: oops |
23:09:56 | petur | romanos: right, small device... |
23:10:02 | romanos | i'm not using rockbox when in hard disk mode, but apple os |
23:10:10 | amiconn | We can ask the MAS |
23:10:11 | petur | romanos: I've got 40GB :) |
23:10:15 | romanos | :P |
23:10:27 | preglow | amiconn: ok, so we don't need to inspect any frames or anything? |
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23:11:05 | amiconn | We can get 2 types of info from the MAS, the s/pdif channel status bits and the mpeg frame header |
23:11:20 | romanos | any way to defragment ext2 ? |
23:11:40 | preglow | amiconn: i've found cases where the channel status are not to be trusted |
23:11:42 | amiconn | I don't know whether the consumer channel status bits include the sampe rate, iirc we only get the first 16 bits |
23:12:01 | preglow | i've had to switch to using the freq measurement circuit on coldfir enow |
23:12:28 | amiconn | Otoh, the channel status bits are always avaliable, both when recording for real and when just monitoring |
23:12:36 | preglow | hmm, yes |
23:12:42 | preglow | if that is so, we don't really have a choice on archos |
23:12:44 | amiconn | The frame headers are only available when recording for real |
23:12:55 | preglow | i tag the wav as recording starts |
23:13:08 | preglow | forget that |
23:13:09 | preglow | heh |
23:13:13 | preglow | i won't need that on archos |
23:13:22 | preglow | so this will be primarily for display purposes |
23:13:25 | amiconn | We already handle that |
23:13:33 | amiconn | It's only for display, yes |
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23:14:18 | preglow | if i get spdif working for release, i think i'm going to make the recording screen display the real sample rate for spdif recording as well, would be nice if someone with an archos could make a routine that works for that as well |
23:14:22 | * | preglow likes consistency |
23:14:40 | linuxstb | $ sh-elf-gcc −−version |
23:14:40 | linuxstb | sh-elf-gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (rockbox patch #1) |
23:14:48 | linuxstb | Now I'll give it a test. |
23:14:49 | amiconn | Rockbox on archos writes an empty 4KB id3v2 tag when starting a recording, and later prepends a xing header before the start of the mp3 stream, shortening the id3v2 header |
23:14:53 | Bagder | ok, I have what seems to be a working configure check now |
23:15:12 | Mikachu | not sure if it's relevant, but id3v2.4 lets you write the tag at the end of a file |
23:15:24 | amiconn | Xing has to be at the start |
23:15:31 | Mikachu | okay |
23:16:00 | amiconn | Archos retail chooses another way, it overwrites the first frame with the xing header |
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23:16:41 | amiconn | Mikachu: For the sake of battery, I would avoid headers at the end for mobile devices |
23:17:09 | Mikachu | can't you just seek backward from the end? |
23:17:19 | amiconn | Seeking always costs battery |
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23:17:41 | amiconn | You need to seek to the end & back (or seek to the end, close and re-open) |
23:18:19 | amiconn | linuxstb: You should edit the Makefile before building for archos |
23:18:31 | amiconn | (right now, the configure fix will change that) |
23:19:34 | linuxstb | amiconn: Ah, you mean to enable -Os ? |
23:19:39 | amiconn | yes |
23:19:40 | preglow | tags at the start of a file is an abomination |
23:20:00 | amiconn | Tags belong there. |
23:20:01 | Mikachu | i didn't mean to start a religious discussion :) |
23:20:08 | preglow | hell no |
23:20:14 | preglow | they belong at the end, as the good lord intended |
23:20:16 | Mikachu | too late i guess |
23:20:20 | preglow | haha |
23:20:26 | * | amiconn totally disagress |
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23:20:31 | preglow | i decided to make it religious at once |
23:20:50 | preglow | keeping them at the start breaks programs everytime someone decides a new tag format is needed |
23:21:10 | preglow | best of all is just using a good container format, of course |
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23:22:01 | linuxstb | Or just _any_ container... |
23:22:08 | preglow | haha, yes |
23:22:17 | Mikachu | ogg mp3 |
23:22:20 | Mikachu | that would be something |
23:22:20 | preglow | i'd rather see mp3 in ogg than mp3 in nothing |
23:22:33 | Mikachu | i put an mpeg1 video in avi the other day |
23:22:33 | preglow | but i guess we're not that lucky |
23:22:34 | linuxstb | mp4 mp3 just to confuse people |
23:22:42 | amiconn | Bagder: Argh, why didn't you warn before commit... |
23:22:51 | Bagder | haha |
23:22:55 | Bagder | now we get to test it more ;-) |
23:23:05 | preglow | only container format i've ever seen mp3 in is riff |
23:23:11 | preglow | which hardly counts as a container at all |
23:23:14 | Mikachu | and avi |
23:23:16 | Mikachu | i assume |
23:23:33 | Mikachu | not only mp3 though |
23:23:36 | amiconn | Yes, avi can contain mp3, as well as mob |
23:23:38 | linuxstb | I think I've downloaded some mp3 files in asf containers. |
23:23:39 | amiconn | *mov |
23:23:44 | markun | I've seen mp3 in RIFF WAV files |
23:24:15 | markun | preglow: ah, you've said that already |
23:25:02 | amiconn | Bagder: I take it that I should better not edit acbuild.pl during a build cycle... |
23:25:14 | Bagder | I think you can |
23:27:03 | amiconn | Okay, next build round should use new sh-elf-gcc |
23:27:43 | Mikachu | would it be silly to run code from flash on nanos? |
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23:28:48 | amiconn | Well, not necessarily *run* from flash, but I woul dlike to have rockbox in flash on all platforms... |
23:29:03 | * | amiconn really likes the fast boot on archos |
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23:29:07 | Mikachu | i mean the flash disk |
23:29:40 | amiconn | I don't think you can run code from there |
23:30:01 | amiconn | The flash behaves as an ordinary ata device |
23:30:07 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
23:30:25 | Mikachu | i saw some talk about XIP support for ext2 on lkml recently |
23:30:37 | Mikachu | (execute in place) |
23:30:44 | Mikachu | for embedded devices |
23:30:54 | Mikachu | it would probably be too slow anyway |
23:31:04 | Bagder | it requires that you can access and use the flash as ordinary mem |
23:32:13 | Bagder | http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-6513844-1.html?tag=txt |
23:32:18 | Bagder | nother Rockbox article |
23:32:47 | amiconn | Bagder: Hmm, configure says gcc 4.0.3 is rockbox patched |
23:32:49 | linuxstb | Bagder: My 4.0.3 gcc is now up and running for sh. I've tested an Archos Recorder v1 build with -Os, and it seems to work fine. |
23:33:00 | amiconn | ..but it doesn't set -Os ... |
23:33:26 | Bagder | oops |
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23:33:36 | petur | Bagder: nice article |
23:33:57 | * | petur hides for another flood of ipod users |
23:34:22 | amiconn | Bagder: ..neither on cygwin nor linux... |
23:34:28 | Bagder | fixed now |
23:35:35 | preglow | nice article |
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23:38:39 | linuxstb | Agreed - positive article, but missing tagcache. |
23:39:58 | preglow | btw |
23:40:03 | petur | a bit thin on the functionality |
23:40:06 | preglow | is the only way to update tagcache to force it manually? |
23:40:09 | Mikachu | hm it would be fun to use the oscilloscope plugin with line-in, a real oscilloscope |
23:40:49 | Mikachu | (with very low time res of course) |
23:41:43 | petur | is anybody going to post a comment with more info? |
23:41:52 | Bagder | weird build failures |
23:42:02 | Bagder | need to update my oldish binutils too I guess |
23:42:27 | petur | 2200 :P |
23:42:38 | Bagder | hm, no its 2.16.1 |
23:42:57 | amiconn | Bagder: I see red, and wonder what happened... |
23:43:04 | Bagder | me too |
23:43:54 | * | amiconn tries a bootloader build himself... |
23:44:07 | Bagder | I get the same error here |
23:44:13 | amiconn | Maybe the -Os changes things for bootbox? (though I don't know why/how) |
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23:47:53 | Bagder | -save-temps is a good option |
23:47:54 | amiconn | gcc 4.0.3 reorders sections when building with -Os |
23:48:05 | * | amiconn already used -save-temps :) |
23:48:25 | Bagder | _UIE0:bsr_UIE |
23:48:34 | Bagder | _UIE1:bsr_UIE |
23:48:39 | Bagder | etc |
23:48:41 | amiconn | The UIE<num> block ends up in .text |
23:48:55 | amiconn | ...but UIE itself gets its own section |
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23:49:04 | amiconn | ..due to sectioned compilation |
23:49:18 | Bagder | and... system.s:260: Error: displacement to defined symbol _UIE overflows 12-bit field |
23:49:25 | amiconn | ...and when linking, they end up too far away |
23:49:30 | Bagder | yeps |
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23:49:54 | amiconn | We have some options, none of them being bulletproof though |
23:50:09 | amiconn | (1) We could force UIE into .text |
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23:50:46 | amiconn | (2) We could put the UIE<num> block inside UIE itself |
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23:54:12 | Bagder | I don't think I can tell which approach to prefer |
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