| 00:00:06 | Bagder | humulus: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=1 |
| 00:00:10 | lostlogic | XavierGr: it's only on manual skip, right? |
| 00:00:26 | Bagder | 473 open feature requests |
| 00:00:37 | Mikachu | do mine, do mine! |
| 00:00:38 | captbunzo | ok. here's a simple question. |
| 00:00:44 | petur | hehe |
| 00:00:58 | captbunzo | say I want to totally "reset" the rockbox OS. |
| 00:01:14 | petur | what player? |
| 00:01:21 | captbunzo | ipod |
| 00:01:26 | captbunzo | Can this be accomplished by deleting .rockbox and rockbox.ipod? |
| 00:01:29 | petur | boot it with hold on |
| 00:01:31 | Bagder | humulus: the x5 port is very new so its still lacking a few basic things that work on other targets Rockbox runs on |
| 00:01:37 | XavierGr | lostlogic: I think yes, let me check again the manual change from filebrowser. |
| 00:01:47 | captbunzo | yeah - that doesn't seem to REALLY reset everything. |
| 00:01:53 | humulus | Bagder: but mp3/ogg works properly? |
| 00:01:59 | XavierGr | lostlogic: and I am sure that there is nothing wrong on normal track change (when a track ends) |
| 00:01:59 | Bagder | humulus: yes |
| 00:02:01 | Mikachu | captbunzo: no, that won't clear your settings |
| 00:02:02 | humulus | Bagder: and video? |
| 00:02:07 | Bagder | no |
| 00:02:12 | lostlogic | XavierGr: that's all I meant −− any other change is 'manual' |
| 00:02:15 | Mikachu | captbunzo: boot with the hold switch on |
| 00:02:19 | * | lostlogic out for now. |
| 00:02:20 | petur | captbunzo: what do you understand with reset? |
| 00:02:46 | captbunzo | Rockbox is very consistently hanging on boot. |
| 00:03:02 | XavierGr | lostlogic I remember you saying that filetree change is different than right/left change. |
| 00:03:12 | captbunzo | I can usually get it to reboot through a combination of reboots and reset reboots. |
| 00:03:25 | captbunzo | I figured reinstalling the OS isn't a bad idea. |
| 00:03:38 | humulus | ok i'll check it out :) |
| 00:03:41 | captbunzo | just wanted to make sure that I deleted everything. |
| 00:03:42 | petur | you can wipe the folder and ithe rockbox.ipod file |
| 00:03:59 | Mikachu | captbunzo: you saw what i wrote? |
| 00:04:15 | captbunzo | yep. |
| 00:04:16 | petur | in case you think a file got corrupted |
| 00:04:21 | captbunzo | unfortunately, I was already doing that. |
| 00:04:37 | captbunzo | petur: a file - are we talking a ROCKBOX file? or something else on the hard drive? |
| 00:04:42 | captbunzo | like an audio file. |
| 00:05:10 | petur | rockbox.ipod or whatever there's in the .rockbox folder |
| 00:05:17 | captbunzo | yep. |
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| 00:05:35 | captbunzo | well, I'm doing a reinstall of the OS files. |
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| 00:07:12 | captbunzo | ok. first boot after I "reinstalled". And it's hung. |
| 00:07:42 | captbunzo | It shouldn't stay on the splash screen, correct? |
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| 00:09:30 | petur | sorry, I'm no ipod expert |
| 00:09:42 | captbunzo | ok. thanks anyhow! :) |
| 00:09:55 | petur | have you booted with hold on already? |
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| 00:14:26 | captbunzo | yep. |
| 00:14:31 | captbunzo | and it will boot on. |
| 00:14:48 | captbunzo | the CPU frequency debug screen fails automatically. |
| 00:15:30 | petur | then sorry, can't help any further |
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| 00:53:17 | Mikachu | HCl: about skype, http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-europe-06/bh-eu-06-biondi/bh-eu-06-biondi-up.pdf |
| 00:55:12 | HCl | who wha |
| 00:55:23 | Moos | is there any X5 users around please? |
| 00:55:24 | HCl | thanks o-o |
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| 01:01:55 | humulus | Moos: yes but i'm not running rockbox yet |
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| 01:05:16 | Moos | humulus: thanks, I just thought I need the Cowons directories for upgrading... |
| 01:06:03 | Moos | I just upgrading to the dual-boot fw and trying to see if that works |
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| 01:07:12 | Moos | working... I'll can now switch to cowan's fw if I need to listeb Radio, or USB OTG :) |
| 01:07:42 | Moos | but that remind me original fw aren't so good :( |
| 01:08:31 | Moos | sleep time here, bye all |
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| 01:37:03 | sjgrox2x | Hello |
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| 01:41:55 | sjgrox2x | Anyone around that could possibly help me out? |
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| 01:43:52 | midkay | sjgrox2x, no, since you haven't told us what you need help with. |
| 01:45:05 | sjgrox2x | I have spent the past few days to try and get a patch to install on t my ipod. I have read all of teh tutorials well at least I think all of them on how to do and waht to do. I ahve tried both VMware and cygwin and cant get a patch to work. |
| 01:45:26 | midkay | what's the problem? |
| 01:46:06 | sjgrox2x | I am pretty much lost on how to get the patch converted (at least I think what i read means to convert it) and then put it on to my ipod. |
| 01:47:16 | sjgrox2x | I know i read countless posts from other people on teh forums that this is a tough task and you need to have somewhat of a background in programming but my programming knowledge in limited |
| 01:47:25 | midkay | converted? you need to compile it.. |
| 01:47:33 | sjgrox2x | Yes, that is what I ment, compile. |
| 01:48:22 | midkay | well, if you can give us a specific error you get, or be more specific about the problem.. |
| 01:48:48 | sjgrox2x | Well i seemed to have gotten closer with Cygwin |
| 01:49:04 | midkay | vmware's the easiest, i think.. |
| 01:49:09 | sjgrox2x | I am not really sure how to compile the patch |
| 01:49:12 | sjgrox2x | But this is what I did |
| 01:49:15 | midkay | either way, an error message would be nice.. |
| 01:49:18 | midkay | k |
| 01:50:05 | sjgrox2x | I guess i was skipping the compiling patch and just trying to go straight to adding the patch by typing: patch −−binary -p0 < patchfilename |
| 01:50:22 | midkay | and then what happened? |
| 01:50:24 | sjgrox2x | I skipped the compiling because I could never get tot he folder that I downloaded the patch to |
| 01:50:29 | sjgrox2x | O |
| 01:50:32 | sjgrox2x | When i tried to add it |
| 01:50:33 | sjgrox2x | It says this |
| 01:51:47 | sjgrox2x | Before it was asking me for the File to be patched |
| 01:52:02 | sjgrox2x | but now it says "Bash: patch: command not found" |
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| 01:53:41 | midkay | so patch has been uninstalled somehow.. |
| 01:53:47 | midkay | or you're not running cygwin |
| 01:53:54 | sjgrox2x | I am running cygwin |
| 01:53:55 | midkay | (which it looks like you are, never mind) |
| 01:54:17 | sjgrox2x | Hrmm, not sure how it got uninstalled, Should I run the setup again? |
| 01:54:37 | midkay | if you like. if you still have VMware installed, it's probably a lot easier.. everything's already set up. |
| 01:54:52 | sjgrox2x | Yea |
| 01:54:53 | sjgrox2x | I have that |
| 01:55:13 | sjgrox2x | Ok |
| 01:55:15 | sjgrox2x | I have it running |
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| 01:57:06 | midkay | did you try patching? |
| 01:57:16 | sjgrox2x | It does not work when i try |
| 01:57:22 | sjgrox2x | Always say the directory doesnt esist |
| 01:57:26 | sjgrox2x | *exist |
| 01:57:44 | midkay | you're specifying the right patch file name, right? vmware doesn't use the cygwin folder.. |
| 01:57:59 | Zoide777 | hi |
| 01:58:08 | Zoide777 | has anyone here tried the rockboy patch on a grayscale ipod? |
| 01:58:19 | sjgrox2x | By specifying where the patch is, I am typing C:/rockbox/thepatch.patch |
| 01:59:04 | Mikachu | that's most likely wrong |
| 01:59:13 | midkay | sjgrox2x, sorry, vmware might be a bit confusing. it emulates linux, and doesn't use your C: or D: drives. |
| 01:59:32 | sjgrox2x | Yea, I dont really know how to use linux :S |
| 01:59:56 | Mikachu | basically, just leave out the drive letter |
| 01:59:58 | Mikachu | there is only one / |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:05 | sjgrox2x | Ok, let me try that. |
| 02:00:16 | Mikachu | and of course, give the correct path to the patch file |
| 02:00:19 | midkay | Mikachu, but his patch is on C:\ and vmware does *not* touch any of your standard drives... |
| 02:00:31 | Mikachu | right, you have to put the patch file on the filesystem first |
| 02:00:33 | midkay | you can't even access anything on C: if you try, without copying it over.. |
| 02:00:36 | Mikachu | or you will have limited access |
| 02:01:06 | sjgrox2x | OK, sorry for being new to this... How do I upload the file to the linux system? |
| 02:01:30 | midkay | you need to go to 'my network places' and look for 'user' or 'homes' on debian server.. |
| 02:01:48 | midkay | try to enter either, and use "user" and "rockbox" for the username/password |
| 02:02:41 | sjgrox2x | "My Network Places" on my computer? |
| 02:02:47 | midkay | yeah |
| 02:03:21 | sjgrox2x | What would be the server I am trying to connect to.. Like the ip or link to it? |
| 02:03:35 | Mikachu | i think \\debian |
| 02:04:14 | sjgrox2x | "Windows Requires a Share to publish to. Please try another location." |
| 02:04:16 | midkay | yes |
| 02:04:53 | midkay | hmm.. |
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| 02:11:53 | Zoide777 | \\debian isn't working here either... it was before though |
| 02:12:36 | Zoide777 | "Windows cannot find '\\debian'. Check the spelling and try again, or try searching for the item by clicking the Start button and then clicking Search." |
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| 02:14:36 | midkay | logged onto vmware, right? |
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| 02:16:00 | Zoide777 | yes |
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| 02:17:06 | Zoide777 | yes |
| 02:17:35 | midkay | works for me.. |
| 02:17:40 | midkay | sometimes i need to log into users or home first |
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| 02:31:02 | sjgrox2x | Hey midkay are you still around? My modem lost connection for some reason (comcast sucks) and it just went back on. Do you think you can help me some more? |
| 02:31:26 | midkay | i'm sorta here, yeah :) |
| 02:31:35 | midkay | did you try checking 'my network places'? |
| 02:31:38 | sjgrox2x | Awesome. |
| 02:31:44 | sjgrox2x | Yea, when I went to network places |
| 02:31:55 | sjgrox2x | it gave me some error that it could not to connect to it |
| 02:32:00 | sjgrox2x | Going to check |
| 02:32:11 | midkay | hmm.. wait.. windows firewall? disabled? disable any firewalls that are on.. |
| 02:32:57 | sjgrox2x | "Windows requires a share to publish to. Please try another location" |
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| 02:33:03 | sjgrox2x | I think its disabled, letme check |
| 02:33:13 | midkay | triple-check, it's caused trouble for people before.. |
| 02:33:20 | sjgrox2x | Ok |
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| 02:34:41 | sjgrox2x | Well I have nver had this error before.. When I try to view the windows firewall i get this: Due to an unidentified problem, Windows cannot display windows firewall settings." |
| 02:35:10 | * | midkay raises eyebrows |
| 02:35:16 | ashridah | google the error message |
| 02:35:22 | sjgrox2x | Ok. |
| 02:35:35 | ashridah | most things are in msdn, which google tends to index |
| 02:35:41 | ashridah | including direct quotes of error messages |
| 02:38:20 | sjgrox2x | I got to restart, brb. |
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| 02:44:02 | sjgrox2x | OK, googled worked :D |
| 02:44:33 | sjgrox2x | Midkay, what did you want me to type in my network places? \\debian\user? |
| 02:44:43 | midkay | \\debian |
| 02:44:53 | midkay | should get you to the share.. |
| 02:45:05 | midkay | does that work? |
| 02:45:09 | sjgrox2x | No |
| 02:45:15 | midkay | :S |
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| 02:45:19 | sjgrox2x | Windwos requires a share to publish to. Please try another location. |
| 02:46:02 | midkay | i'm lost. i guess it's back to cygwin.. |
| 02:47:17 | sjgrox2x | Ugh... Ok. Do i need to update cygwin then? |
| 02:47:41 | sjgrox2x | Because last time that took me 1+ hours |
| 02:47:54 | Mikachu | sjgrox2x: if you type "wget google.com" in vmware, does that work? |
| 02:48:27 | sjgrox2x | Yes |
| 02:48:36 | sjgrox2x | No |
| 02:48:39 | sjgrox2x | nvm |
| 02:48:41 | sjgrox2x | it works |
| 02:48:43 | Mikachu | heh |
| 02:49:08 | Mikachu | just give the url to the patch instead of google.com then |
| 02:49:16 | Mikachu | you'll need to put '' around the url probably |
| 02:49:18 | Mikachu | or "" |
| 02:49:22 | sjgrox2x | Ok |
| 02:49:36 | midkay | Mikachu, how does he access the build after it's compiled? |
| 02:49:49 | Mikachu | that's a later problem |
| 02:49:49 | midkay | i guess he could manage it from vmware.. |
| 02:50:15 | Mikachu | i used http for file transfers when i used vmware |
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| 02:51:34 | Mikachu | but my situation is reversed |
| 02:51:46 | sjgrox2x | Sorry, but how to I paste with vmware |
| 02:52:03 | Mikachu | you'll have to type it |
| 02:52:07 | sjgrox2x | Ok |
| 02:52:16 | Mikachu | you can use tinyurl.com or something i guess |
| 02:52:36 | sjgrox2x | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11447... That link doesnt seem right since its not a file type, but is it? |
| 02:52:56 | Mikachu | wget won't name the file correctly, but it will have the correct contents |
| 02:53:01 | sjgrox2x | Ok |
| 02:53:07 | Mikachu | you can give -O mypatch.patch if you want |
| 02:53:12 | Mikachu | or just rename it afterwards of course |
| 02:53:36 | sjgrox2x | Ok its saved |
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| 02:55:12 | sjgrox2x | When I do a dir I get index.html (which is teh google page I assume) index.html?getfile=11447 and rockbox-devel |
| 02:55:32 | Mikachu | the getfile one is your patch... |
| 02:55:53 | sjgrox2x | Yea.. sorry I dont know linux, how do i rename that? |
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| 02:56:28 | Mikachu | mv inde<press tab> file.patch |
| 02:56:47 | Mikachu | heh you have index.html too |
| 02:56:49 | Mikachu | rm index.html |
| 02:56:50 | Mikachu | first |
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| 02:57:48 | sjgrox2x | Awesome! |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:11 | sjgrox2x | Ok, now when i type: patch −−binary -p0 < file.patch I get what i was getting when i was using cygwin |
| 03:00:35 | Mikachu | what is that, and why are you using −−binary? |
| 03:01:04 | sjgrox2x | That is teh command I read to do in the tutorial for compiling |
| 03:01:21 | sjgrox2x | Im taking a screen shot now |
| 03:02:02 | sjgrox2x | http://www.impulsivehosting.com/hosted/patch.jpg |
| 03:02:39 | Mikachu | what does pwd say? |
| 03:02:47 | Mikachu | ah wait, the path is in the xterm title |
| 03:02:55 | Mikachu | you need to cd to the rockbox dir first :) |
| 03:03:41 | sjgrox2x | Do i have to move the patch there too? |
| 03:03:56 | Mikachu | you can say < /home/user/file.patch instead |
| 03:04:02 | sjgrox2x | Ok |
| 03:04:57 | sjgrox2x | Ok, awesome, it just came up with a bunch of Hunks that succeeded |
| 03:05:07 | Mikachu | none failed? |
| 03:05:17 | sjgrox2x | Not that I see |
| 03:08:43 | Mikachu | hooray |
| 03:10:18 | sjgrox2x | Going to go read on in the tutorial, further i got so far. thank you so much for your help so far |
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| 03:10:35 | Mikachu | you're welcome |
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| 03:29:36 | sjgrox2x | Mikachu are you still around? |
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| 03:34:18 | Mikachu | yes |
| 03:34:41 | sjgrox2x | Ok, after I made the zip.. "rockbox.zip" What is my next step? |
| 03:35:15 | Mikachu | i guess you could use yousendit or something like that |
| 03:35:23 | sjgrox2x | What if I have webhosting |
| 03:35:28 | sjgrox2x | Could I upload it to it? |
| 03:35:55 | Mikachu | sure |
| 03:36:08 | sjgrox2x | What would be the commands for that.. sorry :S |
| 03:36:21 | Mikachu | that would depend on the webhost |
| 03:36:40 | sjgrox2x | What depends? |
| 03:36:52 | sjgrox2x | I have ftp access if thats waht you mean |
| 03:36:52 | Mikachu | do you use ftp? |
| 03:36:57 | Mikachu | okay |
| 03:37:03 | Mikachu | try 'ftp host.com' |
| 03:37:48 | sjgrox2x | ok |
| 03:37:49 | sjgrox2x | im logged in |
| 03:38:18 | Mikachu | put rockbox.zip |
| 03:39:10 | sjgrox2x | Ok |
| 03:39:12 | sjgrox2x | I think it worked |
| 03:39:47 | sjgrox2x | Sweet |
| 03:39:56 | sjgrox2x | Genious... :D |
| 03:40:13 | Mikachu | i would work on getting the windows filesharing thing working if i were you |
| 03:40:15 | Mikachu | heh |
| 03:41:10 | sjgrox2x | Yea that would be a lot easier to use... I will figure that out later.. For now, this is awesome! |
| 03:41:20 | sjgrox2x | Do you need any webhosting? |
| 03:41:34 | Mikachu | no thanks, i have 100mbit at home :) |
| 03:41:40 | sjgrox2x | :O |
| 03:41:42 | sjgrox2x | Im jealous |
| 03:41:58 | Mikachu | it will only be 10mbit after the 21st |
| 03:42:11 | sjgrox2x | That sucks, but its still better then my connection |
| 03:43:35 | sjgrox2x | Just my luck.. After getting all this to work, my ipod isnt showing up |
| 03:43:51 | Mikachu | is vmware still running? |
| 03:44:06 | sjgrox2x | Yup, figured that was the problem since it keeps saying your ipod has been disconnected |
| 03:44:24 | Mikachu | i think vmware can be set to steal usb devices |
| 03:44:31 | sjgrox2x | It stole it :@ |
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| 03:44:50 | Mikachu | just for fun, does this work? |
| 03:44:57 | Mikachu | mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt |
| 03:45:05 | sjgrox2x | Where do you want me to type that? |
| 03:45:11 | Mikachu | in vmware, as root |
| 03:45:20 | sjgrox2x | Lemme load i tback up |
| 03:45:24 | Mikachu | if it does, you can install rockbox on your ipod in vmware |
| 03:47:17 | sjgrox2x | is there a space after sda2 |
| 03:47:23 | Mikachu | yes |
| 03:47:48 | sjgrox2x | I think i need to disconnect from the ftp first, how do i do that |
| 03:48:01 | Mikachu | eh? don't worry about the ftp |
| 03:48:15 | sjgrox2x | It said ?Invalid Command |
| 03:48:18 | sjgrox2x | ftp> |
| 03:48:23 | Mikachu | oh you mean exit the ftp program |
| 03:48:29 | Mikachu | just type exit or quit or bye |
| 03:48:37 | Mikachu | or press ctrl-d |
| 03:48:43 | Mikachu | one of those should work |
| 03:49:00 | sjgrox2x | Mount: only root can do that |
| 03:49:06 | Mikachu | 03:45:07 <sjgrox2x> Where do you want me to type that? |
| 03:49:06 | Mikachu | 03:45:13 <Mikachu> in vmware, as root |
| 03:49:19 | sjgrox2x | My bad |
| 03:49:40 | sjgrox2x | I dont know hwo to do root |
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| 03:49:50 | Mikachu | okay, can you check ls /dev/sda2 |
| 03:50:10 | sjgrox2x | came up in bold yellow |
| 03:50:21 | Mikachu | okay, that probably means it detects your ipod fine in vmware |
| 03:50:44 | sjgrox2x | Yea I see up top it says Apple USB Device or something |
| 03:51:12 | Mikachu | okay, type ssh root@localhost |
| 03:51:16 | Mikachu | and give rockbox as the password |
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| 03:53:47 | sjgrox2x | ok |
| 03:53:49 | sjgrox2x | Done |
| 03:53:56 | Mikachu | try the mount command again |
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| 03:55:51 | sjgrox2x | Hrmm, when i just tried to add that rockbox.zip to my ipod again when i try to play a song it just says root and doenst play |
| 03:56:14 | Doomed_9 | u unziped it?> |
| 03:56:18 | sjgrox2x | Yea |
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| 03:56:37 | sjgrox2x | Do I need to tagcache again? |
| 03:58:18 | sjgrox2x | Mikachu a bunch of stuff came up this time about mounting whe i typed in teh comamnd |
| 03:58:37 | Mikachu | okay, maybe the system doesn't have support for all the stuff |
| 03:58:50 | Mikachu | it would probably be fiddly to add |
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| 04:00:01 | sjgrox2x | C:\Documents and Settings\Seth Goldstein\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\FL67VAUG\mount[1].jpg |
| 04:00:04 | sjgrox2x | whoops |
| 04:00:16 | sjgrox2x | http://www.impulsivehosting.com/hosted/mount.jpg |
| 04:00:31 | scorche | >_> |
| 04:00:32 | Mikachu | ah you just mistyped it |
| 04:00:46 | Mikachu | vfat /dev/sda2 |
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| 04:03:32 | biffhero | is that a vmware player image of linux, to help newbies get rockbox on their players? that's cool. |
| 04:03:38 | ericmoritz\0 | hey I just put rockbox on my wifes ipod nano, the volume control acts odd, I spans the values -74 to 6, why is that? |
| 04:04:13 | biffhero | sjgrox2x: you need to have a space after the 'vfat', so it looks like this: mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt Otherwise you almost have it. |
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| 04:04:47 | scorche | ericmoritz\0: think in Db |
| 04:05:10 | ericmoritz\0 | Decibals? |
| 04:06:07 | scorche | well dB |
| 04:06:16 | sjgrox2x | invalid block device |
| 04:06:30 | scorche | basically, dB scale has an actual meaning |
| 04:07:06 | scorche | 0 is the line level |
| 04:08:17 | ericmoritz\0 | ok |
| 04:08:53 | Mikachu | sjgrox2x: hm okay, lets give up then |
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| 04:09:31 | ericmoritz\0 | ok, it makes more sense now... I told her to keep it at 0 |
| 04:09:43 | sjgrox2x | Alrighty :) |
| 04:09:47 | Mikachu | heh, she will go deaf in 5 minutes then |
| 04:09:49 | scorche | that can be pretty loud = |
| 04:09:50 | scorche | ) |
| 04:09:51 | sjgrox2x | Thanks for all your help, but I dont think it worked |
| 04:10:08 | ericmoritz\0 | 0 for use with her car stereo |
| 04:10:13 | scorche | ah |
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| 04:10:38 | scorche | i would go a bit lower ;) |
| 04:10:48 | Mikachu | i suppose the car has a volume control |
| 04:10:52 | ericmoritz\0 | yeah |
| 04:11:16 | scorche | i find that it sounds better when you turn the player vol down, and the car vol up |
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| 04:11:43 | Mikachu | i find that unlikely, if 0 is really line level |
| 04:11:44 | ericmoritz\0 | I'm actually thinking of getting rid of my Gmini 402 now and getting a ipod video because rockbox fixes all the complaints I had with the ipod |
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| 04:12:17 | sjgrox2x | Does rockbox have a codec for videos or am I just blind and I cant find it |
| 04:12:23 | Mikachu | it doesn't |
| 04:12:29 | * | scorche shrugs at Mikachu |
| 04:12:40 | scorche | it is what B4dger said |
| 04:12:41 | sjgrox2x | I would love to hve that. So Far thast all I miss |
| 04:12:44 | Mikachu | i haven't actually tried though, and you have |
| 04:12:54 | ericmoritz\0 | does anyone know if the remote control accessories still work when Rockbox is loaded? |
| 04:13:07 | Mikachu | not yet |
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| 04:14:16 | ericmoritz\0 | Mikachu, was that an answer to my question? |
| 04:14:29 | Mikachu | yes, but i'm not 100% sure |
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| 04:14:58 | ericmoritz\0 | it's no big deal if it doesn't, I'll probably never use a remote |
| 04:16:59 | Mikachu | i don't quite see the point of having a remote to something i keep in my pocket :) |
| 04:17:09 | scorche | car |
| 04:17:19 | * | goffa wishes the remote was wireless |
| 04:17:24 | goffa | then i could see a use |
| 04:17:33 | Mikachu | i assumed we were talking about a wireless remote |
| 04:17:39 | scorche | as did i |
| 04:17:50 | dj-fu | It's probably close to the headphones |
| 04:17:52 | goffa | is the x5 or iriver remote wireless? |
| 04:17:54 | ericmoritz\0 | it's handy when in the car |
| 04:18:05 | dj-fu | means I wouldn't have to pull my nano out of my pocket, flip my case, turn the hold off and move my fingers |
| 04:18:09 | dj-fu | a remote would be cool ;[ |
| 04:19:09 | sjgrox2x | +wireless headphones |
| 04:19:17 | Mikachu | http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/6.RSLID?mco=1979FAD4&nplm=MA128G%2FA |
| 04:19:42 | sjgrox2x | You still need teh dock for it to work |
| 04:20:16 | ericmoritz\0 | I assume other accessories like a speaker dock works right? |
| 04:20:37 | ericmoritz\0 | one with the stupid ipod connector, not a headphone jack |
| 04:20:56 | Mikachu | i think the lineout connector works, yeah |
| 04:20:58 | Mikachu | but i haven't tried |
| 04:22:00 | sjgrox2x | Everytime I install a patch do I have to tagcache again? |
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| 04:25:39 | Doomed | i think so |
| 04:25:59 | sjgrox2x | That sucks, it takes so long to do 50gb of music |
| 04:26:30 | Doomed | eh |
| 04:27:54 | sjgrox2x | Something messed up when I did my patch. When I goto play a song it has (root) in parenthesis and doesnt play |
| 04:27:58 | ericmoritz\0 | I find that much music on a device to hard to manage |
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| 04:28:18 | sjgrox2x | Ehh, I have a hard time chosing what I want to put on when I have 200+gb |
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| 04:57:52 | lostlogic | XavierGr: okokok, I figured out your bug, I think... tomorrow, if I don't remember, tell me "you gotta flush the fillpos on manual track change" |
| 04:58:28 | * | XavierGr puts that to the top of his todo list! |
| 04:58:46 | XavierGr | Thanks lostnihilist! :D |
| 04:58:49 | XavierGr | oops |
| 04:58:56 | XavierGr | I mean lostlogic! :P |
| 04:59:12 | lostlogic | would it make sense that the noise would be up-to 1/5s of audio from a few seconds after the currently playing position of the old track? |
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| 05:00:27 | XavierGr | I don't really understand what you just said :( But I will make sure to test it. |
| 05:00:41 | lostlogic | I'm asking what th enoise sounds like |
| 05:00:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: What noises are these? |
| 05:00:59 | lostlogic | does it sound like up-to 1/5 second of missequenced audio from the old track |
| 05:00:59 | XavierGr | you mean currently right? |
| 05:01:04 | lostlogic | right |
| 05:01:10 | XavierGr | yes |
| 05:01:14 | lostlogic | ok |
| 05:01:17 | XavierGr | it makes sense now. It seems like this. |
| 05:01:17 | lostlogic | that's the bug I found |
| 05:01:22 | lostlogic | and I'll fix it tomorrow. |
| 05:01:32 | XavierGr | you heard the artifacts.ogg right? |
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| 05:02:15 | lostlogic | XavierGr: tbh, I haven't listened to it (made you send it and never listened)... I just analized the code path of manual track change and discovered this bug. |
| 05:02:52 | XavierGr | if you fix it I don't mind |
| 05:03:05 | XavierGr | I just thought that this will be better recognizing what it is. |
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| 05:03:38 | lostlogic | XavierGr: fortunately, you'd mentioned once that you thought it might be some audio from the old track, so I had some inkling what to look for. |
| 05:04:10 | lostlogic | I generally prefer to solve bugs by code analysis than other methods, it's more precise, and much less likely to introduce new bugs that way |
| 05:04:12 | XavierGr | ah okay that's nice to know |
| 05:07:33 | lostlogic | and I leave you with dreams of: http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2006models/2006-Honda-599a.jpg (because I gave a handshake commitment to buy one today) |
| 05:09:22 | lostlogic | XavierGr: I'm committing the fix now, because it was a 1 liner upon further consideration. |
| 05:12:36 | dj-fu | that's a nice bike *_* |
| 05:13:28 | lostlogic | dj-fu: :) |
| 05:13:33 | lostlogic | g'night alls |
| 05:13:36 | dj-fu | 2night |
| 05:14:10 | XavierGr | yippie!! |
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| 05:35:30 | ruisu | hello |
| 05:35:50 | ruisu | ok, ive moved to kubuntu, so ill learn C because i need to :p |
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| 05:40:04 | XavierGr | lostlogic: seems much better but not entirely fixed. I will try to do some more tests and/or make another recording for you to listen. |
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| 05:49:34 | Suicide_Guy | i cant figure out how to get hte bootloader to work on my iaudio x5l |
| 05:49:45 | Suicide_Guy | it works fine, but i cant get it to boot into rockbox |
| 05:56:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | What does it do instead? |
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| 05:59:36 | Suicide_Guy | i figured it out |
| 05:59:38 | Suicide_Guy | im just an ididot |
| 05:59:45 | Suicide_Guy | i forgot to install rockbox after it |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:07 | Suicide_Guy | i was thinking the bootloader came with rockbox too |
| 06:00:23 | Suicide_Guy | just did some messing around in rockbox and love it |
| 06:00:25 | Suicide_Guy | you guys are amazing |
| 06:02:14 | Suicide_Guy | again, sorry for my stupidity lol |
| 06:02:17 | Suicide_Guy | keep up the great work |
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| 06:03:47 | jnc | that was great. |
| 06:04:14 | jnc | Paul_The_Nerd: you solved his problems, :) |
| 06:05:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, there's my magical problem solving skills. I've gotten so good, I don't even need to *do* anything anymore. :-P |
| 06:06:19 | jnc | is it now "Paul the Nerdificent" ? |
| 06:06:32 | jnc | :P |
| 06:08:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Never. |
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| 06:23:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I've asked him to restore the original apple firmware, and see if it shows the charging symbol then, or just when the Retail is loaded from our bootloader. |
| 06:24:14 | ericmoritz\0 | hi, i'm a little confused on how the playlists work. When I start playing a song, it adds all the songs from that directory to the playlist. How can I make it just have the songs I want |
| 06:25:11 | scorche | instead of just hitting the button to play it, hold the button down for like 2 sec |
| 06:25:25 | scorche | that will get you to options and you can choose playlist from there |
| 06:25:48 | ericmoritz\0 | when I click playlist, I get a blank screen |
| 06:28:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | ericmoritz\0: Okay, so you click and hold "Select" or "Navi" on a song, and then get a menu, you choose "Playlist" and see nothing? |
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| 06:29:13 | ericmoritz\0 | Paul_The_Nerd, yeah |
| 06:29:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | ericmoritz\0: What sort of MP3 player do you have, and how old/new is your version? |
| 06:29:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | ericmoritz\0: Also, are you in the filetree, or TagCache? |
| 06:29:57 | ericmoritz\0 | ipod nano, I installed the latest build as of like 10pm est |
| 06:30:01 | ericmoritz\0 | Tag Cache |
| 06:30:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then why did you say 'Directory' when you meant 'Album' or 'Level' |
| 06:30:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Directory is a word that applies to filetrees. TagCache doesn't support the feature you were told to use yet. |
| 06:31:03 | ericmoritz\0 | sorry, my albums are in directories |
| 06:31:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, but you didn't enter the directory, because you weren't in the filetree |
| 06:31:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | You entered the Album in the TagCache browser |
| 06:31:35 | ericmoritz\0 | Paul_The_Nerd, you're right, I used the wrong word |
| 06:32:16 | hardeep | that reminds me |
| 06:32:32 | hardeep | Slasheri: any reason we can't use the playlist functions from Tag Cache? |
| 06:32:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just sayin', it's hard to help without details. But yeah, if you browse in filetree, you'll be able to choose "Playlist" then "Insert" which will let you insert individual files, or folders. |
| 06:32:54 | hardeep | all we need is the pathname of the selected track |
| 06:33:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | hardeep: I *think* they've either not been implemented, or were disabled at some point. (There are some people who said they were there when TagCache was first added, then removed, though I haven't verified this, so it's just random forum dwellers) |
| 06:34:19 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: well, you are slightly less harsh than you usually are when doing troubleshooting =D |
| 06:34:20 | ericmoritz\0 | Paul_The_Nerd, yep, using the file browser mode works fine |
| 06:34:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | ericmoritz\0: Hopefully we'll have the full functions in TagCache soonish, but you can never tell when. |
| 06:35:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: I just have no bedside manner, unless I can tell someone's panicking. |
| 06:35:14 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: <3 |
| 06:35:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 06:38:22 | ericmoritz\0 | What's the Example1 and Example2 things in the TagCache browser? |
| 06:38:52 | ericmoritz\0 | dev fud? |
| 06:39:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nah |
| 06:39:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you open the tagnavi.config file, they're practical examples of how to customize it to do more fun things than it seems like it can. :) |
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| 06:40:46 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: also, how come with doing the aforementioned process, you cannot say, do that to a folder that has folders inside of that, and add all the music that is inside those folders, which are inside of the folder that i hit insert on? |
| 06:40:53 | scorche | ...if that made any sense at all |
| 06:41:12 | ericmoritz\0 | I sometimes seem to get stuck in one directory in file browser mode. the back button doesn't seem to do anything. Anyone get that? |
| 06:42:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: If you enable "Recursively insert subdirectories" it will grab all the subfolders. For example, I can do all of my ACDC music by "Insert" on ACDC, and it gets all 4 album subfolders |
| 06:42:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | ericmoritz\0: Haven't heard that one before. |
| 06:43:05 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: hot...thanks...for some odd reason, i totally skipped over that option |
| 06:43:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Further info, got the guy to restore his original Bootpartition.bin and it shows the charging icon in the upper left corner, and it does. So, it happens independently of our bootloader. Hardware flaw maybe? Some defective 5Gs in the wild? |
| 06:45:58 | Presence | my "brand new" two weeks old ipod 5thGen is awesemo with Rockbox. |
| 06:46:44 | Presence | and the cygwin UI simulator instructions on the wiki worked perfectly. |
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| 07:18:35 | dongs | is 1gb nano same thing as the 2gb nano? |
| 07:18:38 | dongs | as far as rockbox goes |
| 07:18:51 | cmug | there is no 1gb nano? |
| 07:18:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | All Nanos are the same as far as Rockbox goes |
| 07:18:57 | dongs | there is too |
| 07:18:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | cmug: There is a 1gb nano. |
| 07:19:01 | dongs | i just saw it in teh store today |
| 07:20:22 | cmug | really, wicked |
| 07:20:36 | cmug | i thought only 2gb and 4gb models existed |
| 07:21:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | They introduced the 1gig later when they cancelled the Shuffle |
| 07:21:15 | cmug | oh, im just out of the loop ;) |
| 07:21:22 | cmug | army does that to people |
| 07:21:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can imagine |
| 07:22:51 | dongs | 1gb goes for like $149 |
| 07:22:53 | dongs | around here |
| 07:23:16 | dongs | oh, same price as in apple store. |
| 07:25:38 | ericmoritz\0 | if you haven't bought a nano yet, you should wait, they just announced 4gb and 6bg models that will be on sale soon |
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| 07:25:57 | dongs | but they wouldnt be $150 eh |
| 07:26:08 | ericmoritz\0 | I'd assume that will drive the price of 1gb and 2gb down |
| 07:26:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but if you can afford a 150 now, you can afford 200 or 250 later. Double the space for not double the price is a good thing. |
| 07:26:30 | ericmoritz\0 | you'll probably get a 2gb for 150 |
| 07:27:10 | ericmoritz\0 | of coarse a 2gb is only $50 more |
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| 07:27:31 | ericmoritz\0 | it's worth the extra $50 :) |
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| 07:28:40 | hardeep | Slasheri: around? |
| 07:29:46 | ericmoritz\0 | hell, you might as well get an older 20gb 4th gen |
| 07:30:16 | scorche | ooo...a 4gb nano will be coming soon? |
| 07:30:17 | scorche | ;) |
| 07:30:20 | ericmoritz\0 | a friend with a shiny new ipod video will probably sell you his old one for $50 :) |
| 07:30:38 | dongs | 4gb nanos have been around a while already |
| 07:30:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: Well, the *rumour* is they're doubling capacity. 1, 2, 4 to 2, 4, 8. Just rumour though. |
| 07:30:57 | scorche | lol...i was poking fun at him saying that 4 gigs are coming out |
| 07:31:42 | scorche | and if you are worried about $/space, for 50 more than the 4 gig, you can get 30 |
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| 08:29:43 | webguest13 | hey guys i have a question what does rockbox error -1 mean |
| 08:30:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | It means you forgot to copy over the rockbox.zip and then extract it. |
| 08:30:43 | webguest13 | but i did extract it into the top folder |
| 08:30:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | What kind of player is it? |
| 08:31:06 | webguest13 | nano |
| 08:31:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | So you have X:\rockbox.ipod and X:\.rockbox (which is a folder)? |
| 08:31:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Where X is whatever drive letter it is |
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| 08:31:41 | Slasheri | hardeep: hi |
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| 08:32:09 | webguest13 | nvm forgot the rockbox.ipod |
| 08:32:13 | webguest13 | loaded it and now its fixed |
| 08:32:18 | webguest13 | its late and had a brain fart |
| 08:32:19 | webguest13 | lol |
| 08:32:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, you didn't *extract* it into the root. |
| 08:32:28 | webguest13 | correct |
| 08:32:29 | hardeep | Slasheri: I think I've fixed the problem with playlist commands not being available for tracks in tagcache |
| 08:32:32 | webguest13 | but its fixed now |
| 08:32:33 | Slasheri | hardeep: it should be easy to make the playlist functions to work.. i might look that as soon as i am less busy with work |
| 08:32:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which is exactly what I said you didn't do. :-P |
| 08:32:42 | Slasheri | hardeep: oh, that sounds good |
| 08:32:43 | hardeep | Slasheri: was wondering if you could look at it to see if it's correct |
| 08:32:59 | hardeep | Slasheri: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/patches/tagtree.diff |
| 08:32:59 | Slasheri | hardeep: sure, do you have the patch somewhere? |
| 08:33:11 | Slasheri | ok, i will check it |
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| 08:34:16 | hardeep | it appears to be working fine, but I wasn't sure if I was calling the right tagcache functions |
| 08:34:50 | Slasheri | hardeep: it looks good, just commit it :) |
| 08:35:05 | hardeep | 'kay =) |
| 08:38:35 | dongs | i got a weird lockup, i have 6 files in \ of rockbox, 5 and 6 are real mp3s, the first 4 are various unicode filenames . mp3 of 0 bytes. when i play either 5th or 6th mp3 the ui locks up and needs a hard reset. |
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| 08:39:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | What happens when you play one of the first 4? |
| 08:39:48 | dongs | could it be "next file" function crashing because of 0 bytes |
| 08:39:59 | dongs | Paul_The_Nerd: they're just 0 byte files |
| 08:40:12 | dongs | with mp3 extension that i used for testing |
| 08:40:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, but when you click on them, what happens? |
| 08:40:18 | dongs | 5th track plays. |
| 08:40:26 | dongs | (and crashes) |
| 08:40:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | So it freeze immediately, with the 5th track showing in WPS, but no progress? |
| 08:40:53 | dongs | right |
| 08:40:57 | dongs | and after that the keys are dead |
| 08:40:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | And this is a CVS Build? |
| 08:41:05 | dongs | yesterdays. |
| 08:42:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is it set to shuffle or sequential play? |
| 08:43:08 | webguest13 | how do i boot into stock firmware? |
| 08:43:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest13: You didn't read the FAQ I suppose. Hold Menu while booting. |
| 08:43:51 | webguest13 | its late |
| 08:43:53 | webguest13 | sry |
| 08:44:20 | dongs | Paul_The_Nerd: default |
| 08:44:22 | dongs | (sequential |
| 08:44:27 | webguest13 | but that didnt work |
| 08:45:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest13: It's late is an excuse for what again? Also, if it didn't work, you're doing it wrong. Turn off the unit by holding Play/Pause. Turn it on, and continue holding Menu until it says "Loading Original Firmware" |
| 08:45:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: Interesting. And it freezes immediately, as opposed to once the buffering tries to get to them? |
| 08:46:31 | dongs | Paul_The_Nerd: maybe the 2nd. i seem to recall the time counter isnt 0:00 when its locked |
| 08:46:33 | amiconn | Slasheri: The tagcache browser seems to not set some type flag correctly. The icons are correct (folder vs. audio file), but voice is inconsistent. |
| 08:46:35 | dongs | so maybe youre right. |
| 08:47:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: Well, it's easier to diagnose once we actually know what's wrong. ;-), care to check? |
| 08:48:03 | dongs | i would if i had the player here. im just noticing something i noticed earlier today. |
| 08:48:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaaah |
| 08:48:14 | dongs | should be repeatable if you make some 0byte mp3s in alphabetical order before the real ones |
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| 08:48:25 | dongs | like aa.mp3, bb.mp3 0 bytes, then cc.mp3 dd.mp3 "normal" |
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| 08:48:56 | scorche | sadly, it goes 1. 10. 11. 12. 13. 2. 20. 21. =( |
| 08:49:16 | KimHC | hello |
| 08:49:23 | dongs | ohh,non-natural numeric sort order? |
| 08:49:31 | dongs | someone should code an option for that! |
| 08:49:33 | scorche | i hate it |
| 08:49:48 | * | scorche hints |
| 08:49:53 | dongs | even explorer.exe has an option for that. |
| 08:50:13 | amiconn | ugh, now the tagcache browser got confused, showing random strings instead of the first 4 main folders. After some browsing it crashed |
| 08:50:45 | dongs | http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/csnsort.asp |
| 08:50:50 | dongs | heres some good natural sort code to rip |
| 08:50:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: If I remember to check it later I will. I'm actually watching Season 1 of House with a friend, and am just making sure not too many questions go unanswered or helped. If you get the chance to test later, drop by the forums and leave the results if you could. |
| 08:50:57 | amiconn | Slasheri: Btw, I tried the full crc32 instead of the space saver for tagcache on iriver. No speedup at all. |
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| 08:51:24 | dongs | Paul_The_Nerd: yes i will probably mention it again |
| 08:51:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, we should handle invalid files gracefully. |
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| 08:52:07 | hardeep | dongs: the problem is reproduceable in sim as you describe... something gets into an endless loop |
| 08:52:13 | hardeep | will investigate |
| 08:52:15 | dongs | hardeep: wiht 0byte mp3s? |
| 08:52:20 | hardeep | yeah |
| 08:52:21 | dongs | great |
| 08:52:24 | Zoide777 | theli_ua: hi, i'm the guy with the grayscale 4g |
| 08:52:29 | dongs | i know its not really a common condition |
| 08:52:34 | dongs | i mean how many mp3s you have that are 0 byte |
| 08:52:36 | dongs | but still better fix it |
| 08:52:37 | dongs | :D |
| 08:52:42 | Zoide777 | in addition to the problem with rockboy, I'm having a problem booting rockbox itself |
| 08:52:53 | Zoide777 | I have to hard reset a couple of times, or else it hangs in the Rockbox logo screen |
| 08:53:47 | amiconn | dongs: That code won't help us at all. (1) It's C# (2) It uses a windows api function for the actual work |
| 08:53:48 | theli_ua | Zoide777, hm ... maybe you just have problem's with rockbox itself? cause patch changes nothing but rockboy's files |
| 08:54:10 | dongs | amiconn: uh, no. |
| 08:54:12 | dongs | it has the algorithm |
| 08:54:15 | dongs | who cares what its implemented in |
| 08:54:26 | scorche | amiconn: why dont we just code rockbox in C# then from now on? |
| 08:54:28 | * | scorche ducks |
| 08:54:38 | dongs | http://www.eekboom.com/java/compareNatural/src/com/eekboom/utils/Strings.java |
| 08:54:41 | dongs | heres a java version |
| 08:54:48 | scorche | ....even worse |
| 08:54:50 | Zoide777 | theli_ua: yeah, actually i tried rockbox without the patch and it still gives the booting problem |
| 08:54:58 | amiconn | urgh |
| 08:55:01 | Zoide777 | theli_ua: it didn't use to with an older build, though... |
| 08:55:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: I would strongly suggest you listen to Amiconn when he says "That won't work." He tends to know what he's talking about far more often than I do. |
| 08:55:16 | amiconn | I try to stay away from objects, especially sharp ones |
| 08:55:44 | dongs | there is nothing object oriented in that java code. |
| 08:55:48 | scorche | i would rather go C# than java... |
| 08:55:51 | dongs | the algorithm is right there and can be adapted easily. |
| 08:56:05 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wonders why dongs isn't busy adapting it then |
| 08:56:27 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: <3 |
| 08:56:29 | dongs | duno, cause im not at my place |
| 08:57:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, you've got 9 days to post a patch and get it bulletproofed. |
| 08:57:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | It'd probably make it into 3.0, it seems more a bugfix than a feature. |
| 08:57:18 | hardeep | strange, the tagcache re-committed when I rolo'd |
| 08:57:29 | theli_ua | Zoide777, this is strange .. can't see any changes in cvs which should affect 4G iPods ... just the screendump fix |
| 08:57:54 | scorche | i would call it a fix |
| 08:58:23 | scorche | before i have formatted things, and just got the torrent, if they had it in track numbers like that, it got annoying |
| 08:58:36 | amiconn | dongs: Okay, didn't see that it has the algorithm. It's non-obvious, and you need to register for download. yuck! |
| 08:58:52 | scorche | wow....i need to go away before my typing/english gets worse... |
| 08:58:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I always formatted my track numbers as two-digit anyway. |
| 08:58:55 | dongs | hehe, well that java version is better |
| 08:59:13 | amiconn | So I cannot judge about the code suitability, but it tends to be that oo code doesn't help us much |
| 08:59:34 | markun | dongs: yes, the compareNatural doesn't look that difficult to adapt |
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| 09:00:30 | dongs | yea. its jsut going through teh string, and checking isdigit() and setting some flags etc. |
| 09:00:33 | * | amiconn thinks that this 'natural' compare isn't all that natural after all |
| 09:00:34 | dongs | nothing crazy going on |
| 09:00:44 | dongs | do you guys already have a sorter function which takes different sorters? |
| 09:00:47 | dongs | ascending/descending etc? |
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| 09:01:59 | amiconn | In windows explorer it happened multiple times that I was looking for a file and thought it wasn't there, just because windows explorer placed it in a different position in the list than I expected |
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| 09:02:55 | dongs | thats why explorer has something called typeahead |
| 09:03:02 | dongs | wehn you can just type first few chars of a name |
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| 09:03:04 | dongs | :D |
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| 09:06:37 | amiconn | Slasheri: Some more precise hints what happens with voice in tagcache: (1) Files are often (always?) called folders. (2) To the contrary, the virtual '<all tracks>' folder is called file, with a negative number (!!) |
| 09:07:18 | dongs | http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.strnatcmp.php |
| 09:07:23 | dongs | can also rip this function from php |
| 09:07:30 | dongs | that should be in fairly readable C |
| 09:07:48 | Zoide777 | hmmm... the latest cvs build doesn't work on the 4g grayscale |
| 09:07:55 | Zoide777 | it locks up at the Rockbox logo screen |
| 09:08:27 | petur | hmmm... we had the same report yesterday |
| 09:08:41 | petur | no lockup with an older version? |
| 09:08:46 | Zoide777 | if you hard reset it about twice, then it does get through the logo |
| 09:08:55 | Zoide777 | no, it worked ok with a build from some days ago |
| 09:08:57 | dongs | http://sourcefrog.net/projects/natsort/ |
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| 09:09:20 | petur | If you could find out what day it starts going wrong it will help a lot |
| 09:09:34 | Zoide777 | petur: ok, let me try and find out |
| 09:09:55 | hardeep | amiconn: this may be related to the fix I just made... the attribute that the tree code used to use to identify tracks from id3db is not valid anymore |
| 09:10:35 | amiconn | hardeep: This is a build from yesterday's cvs |
| 09:11:10 | hardeep | amiconn: i meant that I fixed a similar issue in the tree code... i'll see if it's similar for voice ui |
| 09:11:24 | amiconn | ah ok |
| 09:12:17 | Zoide777 | petur: works with may 2, i'm trying may 3 now |
| 09:13:33 | Zoide777 | may 3 works... |
| 09:13:47 | Zoide777 | may 4 coming up |
| 09:15:00 | Zoide777 | may 4 breaks |
| 09:15:12 | Zoide777 | so whatever change there was on may 4, it makes 4g grayscale hang at the logo screen |
| 09:15:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, you mean whatever changes were made on the 3rd leading up to the 4th daily |
| 09:16:09 | Zoide777 | well, i tried the may 3 daily build and it worked |
| 09:16:24 | Zoide777 | but the may 4 daily didn't |
| 09:16:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes. The may 3rd daily is made in the wee hours early May 3rd morning. |
| 09:16:38 | Zoide777 | ah i see |
| 09:16:40 | hardeep | amiconn: did this work with old tag database? |
| 09:16:47 | amiconn | yes |
| 09:17:17 | amiconn | Set voice to numbers or .talk clip to see what I mean |
| 09:17:39 | amiconn | (.talk clip falls back to numbers when there is no clip, which is always the case in tagcache) |
| 09:17:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: So, the May 3rd changes need to be looked at. Which is good ,because the only May 4th change was to viewer.c, not a heavily used file in the boot process.;-) |
| 09:17:54 | hardeep | yeah, i see the problem. just surprised it ever worked |
| 09:17:55 | Zoide777 | is there a way to download old cvs builds? |
| 09:18:00 | dongs | yes |
| 09:18:05 | petur | no |
| 09:18:07 | dongs | check out with cvs date tag |
| 09:18:10 | dongs | and build |
| 09:18:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: If you're using CVS to compile yourself, there is. |
| 09:18:19 | petur | alright... |
| 09:18:38 | amiconn | Hmm, now I get the messed-up strings effect again. |
| 09:18:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though technically at that point you're not downloading _builds_ so much as source. ;-) |
| 09:18:53 | Zoide777 | Paul_The_Nerd: how do you do that? I mean, i've got the vmware thing set up, but i mean how do you download w/ the specific date? |
| 09:18:54 | dongs | Greyscale ipods: Fixed screendump for the (not-so-) new framebuffer format. < this? |
| 09:18:58 | dongs | perhaps |
| 09:19:06 | amiconn | Seems to happen if I boot with the browser set to file mode, then switch to tagcache. But it doesn't happen always... |
| 09:19:16 | dongs | -D <date> |
| 09:19:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zoide777: As dongs said. |
| 09:19:45 | dongs | -D 2006-04-30 or whatever |
| 09:19:46 | petur | or me increasing the buffer for the language file? we can't be that short on mem.... |
| 09:19:47 | Zoide777 | well, all i can say is that it gets past the logo screen after a few hard resets |
| 09:19:59 | petur | amiconn? |
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| 09:21:04 | petur | hmmmm payed work.. bbl |
| 09:21:58 | amiconn | hardeep: I took a screendump... amiconn.dyndns.org/tagcache-weird.png">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/tagcache-weird.png |
| 09:22:16 | dongs | how do you take a screendump ;/ |
| 09:22:36 | amiconn | petur: I had a look at the changelog as well, and can't imagine which change could cause such a hang |
| 09:22:39 | hardeep | amiconn: looks fine to me... |
| 09:22:41 | hardeep | =) |
| 09:22:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: The screendump option in the debug menu, and screendumps happen on USB inserts, instead of actually entering USB mode. |
| 09:23:03 | dongs | o |
| 09:23:04 | dongs | neat |
| 09:23:11 | dongs | i saw the option, didnt know how to trigger it. |
| 09:24:11 | Zoide777 | dongs: but that would be for a specific date, not a specific time |
| 09:24:15 | hardeep | btw, that screen dump does confirm a problem I'm seeing −− the folder icon in the tag cache is different then the one in the file tree |
| 09:24:16 | amiconn | dongs: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenDump |
| 09:24:26 | hardeep | strange thing is, it's the same on the sim |
| 09:24:31 | amiconn | hardeep: Was just about to mention that |
| 09:24:49 | amiconn | It was the same before your fix... |
| 09:25:04 | hardeep | ah, okay |
| 09:26:11 | hardeep | amiconn: did the corruption also start after you updated? or were you seeing that before as well? |
| 09:26:27 | amiconn | That happened before as well |
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| 09:28:14 | amiconn | Maybe it depends on the settings; I have dircache switched off and keep tagcache on disk |
| 09:28:30 | Zoide777 | bye |
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| 09:29:21 | dongs | brb |
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| 09:37:45 | Slasheri | hmm, that is weird.. i have never experienced such a corruption before |
| 09:37:53 | Slasheri | so it happens only with the voice ui enabled? |
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| 09:39:57 | dongs | do people acutallyu se voice ui? |
| 09:40:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 09:40:17 | dongs | it seems about as useful as id3 tags |
| 09:40:20 | dongs | speaking of id3 tags |
| 09:40:23 | dongs | how can i make rockbox IGNORE them |
| 09:40:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Blind people |
| 09:40:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | What do you mean ignore them? |
| 09:40:40 | dongs | well |
| 09:40:41 | dongs | when tehre is no tag |
| 09:40:44 | dongs | i want the filename in wps |
| 09:40:46 | dongs | not blank space |
| 09:40:47 | dongs | heh |
| 09:40:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then do that |
| 09:40:53 | dongs | but it doesnt |
| 09:40:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Have you read about conditional statements on the custom WPS page? |
| 09:41:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hell, Rockbox_Default does that |
| 09:41:06 | dongs | really. |
| 09:41:07 | dongs | hm |
| 09:41:12 | dongs | maybe nano theeme doesnt |
| 09:41:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Meanwhile, representatives of various sight-impaired groups often show up in our forums when someone breaks voice. |
| 09:41:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: "nano theeme?" |
| 09:41:57 | petur | naano theeme |
| 09:44:55 | dongs | ipod_nano |
| 09:45:16 | amiconn | I use the voice UI a lot. Very useful in the car |
| 09:45:59 | dongs | what does it say? speak out the menus or something? |
| 09:46:06 | petur | yes |
| 09:46:20 | dongs | seems liek natural sort is more interesting than voice ui |
| 09:46:21 | dongs | :D |
| 09:47:06 | amiconn | hardeep, Slasheri: I now know under what conditions the corruption happens. It happens if you browse in file view, have 'voice folders' set to '.talk mp3 clip' and actually move across a folder with a clip, then switch to tagcache view |
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| 09:47:54 | amiconn | dongs: It speaks the menus and can speak the folders & files in various ways |
| 09:48:02 | linuxstb | dongs: See point 4. on this page for an example showing how to use the filename in the WPS if there are no tags: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SubmitWPS |
| 09:48:20 | amiconn | ...and imho is way more useful than natural sort |
| 09:49:02 | linuxstb | I'm sure someone has already written a patch for "natural sort"... |
| 09:49:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Natural sort helps people who don't know how to use a tag and rename tool, Voice UI helps blind people who don't have a real alternative. :) |
| 09:49:24 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: I'm not blind... |
| 09:49:32 | hardeep | bizarre, i think i may have found a compiler bug |
| 09:49:45 | dongs | linuxstb: whereis it |
| 09:49:48 | linuxstb | This may be it: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2890 |
| 09:49:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Yeah, which means technically you have an alternative to voice UI that's less favorable, but still usable, much as he has an alternative to natural sort. |
| 09:50:08 | LinusN | hardeep: that's a lame excuse :-) |
| 09:50:23 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: Using the voice UI while driving is certainly a good thing, isn't it? |
| 09:50:50 | hardeep | LinusN: hehe |
| 09:50:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Oh, indubitably. |
| 09:50:57 | dongs | linuxstb: seems so. |
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| 09:51:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Did you see that even without Rockbox, at least one 5G thinks it's receiving power? |
| 09:51:41 | dongs | linuxstb: not very good and only works on leading numbers |
| 09:52:18 | * | amiconn somehow expects a comment from lostlogic or preglow ;) |
| 09:53:50 | amiconn | Well, I wouldn't mind natural sort as long as it doesn't add too much code, and it is optional |
| 09:53:55 | markun | dongs: in which situations is natural sorting useful? |
| 09:54:01 | amiconn | In windows explorer it isn't optional... |
| 09:54:11 | dongs | wehn i have all RFCs as audiobooks. |
| 09:54:16 | dongs | :D |
| 09:54:29 | dongs | named like rfc123.txt rfc200.txt |
| 09:54:30 | dongs | etc. |
| 09:54:38 | dongs | rfc2000.mp3 |
| 09:54:42 | dongs | -txt+mp3 |
| 09:55:52 | markun | yes, then it would be useful |
| 09:55:53 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I've never seen it. But I'm sure I asked the first person who reported this if RetailOS was working fine, and he said yes. |
| 09:56:11 | dongs | markun: also stuff like 1.mp3 2.mp3 .. 10.mp3 11.mp3 would get ordered properly |
| 09:56:19 | dongs | instead of 1.mp3 10.mp3 11.mp3 2.mp3 etc. |
| 09:56:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Well, I've got someone who restored their bootpartition.bin and now has a charging icon constantly. It works fine, it just always says it's charging. |
| 09:56:37 | linuxstb | Yes, I've read that. |
| 09:56:39 | dongs | the patch linuxstb linked would handle those cases |
| 09:56:46 | dongs | but it wouldnt do something like track1.mp3 track2.mp3 |
| 09:57:23 | markun | dongs: it would, but not track2.mp3 track10.mp3 :) |
| 09:57:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I'm just wondering if it's officially moved into a "not our fault" category. |
| 09:59:00 | linuxstb | Maybe check if the user is running the most recent Apple firmware. If Apple have fixed it, then we would have to. |
| 09:59:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Good idea |
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| 10:00:23 | linuxstb | Sadly, Apple never publish changelogs for their firmwares - the most they say is "bug fixes". |
| 10:00:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | That drives me quite nuts. |
| 10:01:20 | amiconn | How 'hard' is a hard reset on ipod? Does it really reset everything, or would only disconnecting the battery do that? |
| 10:01:43 | dongs | my nano doenst look very user serviceable |
| 10:01:54 | dongs | i didnt find any screws and shit on it |
| 10:01:55 | dongs | huhu |
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| 10:03:09 | linuxstb | amiconn: I'm pretty sure it resets everything. |
| 10:03:27 | amiconn | My mini also doesn't have screws visible from the outside, and I managed to open it, and take photos |
| 10:04:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aren't they held together by that wonderful natural force, "friction"? |
| 10:04:59 | dj-fu | hey any ideas on why if I try to delete a file or folder with rockbox's menu it kinda dies after pressing play 'confirm'? the screen keeps marqueing, the music keeps playing |
| 10:05:02 | dj-fu | but no dice |
| 10:05:03 | dj-fu | have to reboot |
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| 10:08:28 | linuxstb | Is it just my lack of coffee, or does this forum post make absolutely no sense at all? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4021.0 |
| 10:08:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, I was going to ask the same thing. |
| 10:09:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can usually translate from forum->English, but yeah... |
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| 10:12:46 | dongs | looks like typical blogspam |
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| 10:19:14 | dongs | lol SDL. |
| 10:19:24 | dongs | someone should build a direct3d UI simulator for windows. |
| 10:19:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why? |
| 10:19:43 | dongs | because SDL is communism. |
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| 10:20:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | And intentionally writing code for direct3d when there's no necessity to do so is bending over to pick up the soap when Microsoft's in the shower with you. |
| 10:21:20 | dongs | heh, if I had to pick between directx and sdl for a windows project you already know what I would pick. |
| 10:21:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not a windows project. |
| 10:22:17 | dongs | but but.. |
| 10:25:16 | markun | dongs: It's a *former* communist party :) (look for SDL http://www.broadleft.org/communis.htm) |
| 10:26:07 | dongs | no, you misread, it was formerly KSS. |
| 10:26:19 | dongs | oh, neever mind. under "ex" heading. |
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| 10:32:55 | hardeep | dongs: the problem you reported with the 0-byte mp3 files should be fixed in latest CVS |
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| 10:34:39 | markun | linuxstb: I think the guy in the forum is looking for something like this: http://www.haxx.se/who.html |
| 10:35:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | What about http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/team.jpg ? |
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| 10:37:20 | dongs | status bar in file list is themeable, right? |
| 10:37:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can turn it on and off. |
| 10:37:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | In a theme. |
| 10:37:40 | dongs | yes, but can it be themed? |
| 10:37:56 | dongs | it doesnt seem so |
| 10:38:00 | dongs | from a quick look |
| 10:38:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just told you the extent of what you can do with it. |
| 10:38:07 | dongs | i see |
| 10:38:13 | dongs | isnt that kinda shitty? |
| 10:38:17 | linuxstb | dongs: I think someone was working on it - try searching the patch tracker. |
| 10:38:29 | linuxstb | dongs: Yes, feel free to fix. |
| 10:39:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: Let's see. "Themable status bar" or "Good battery life." Which of those two affects everyone? There's a lot of other things to work on. |
| 10:39:24 | dongs | true, but isnt "good battery life" depending on figuring out how to use the 2nd cpu? |
| 10:39:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | No |
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| 10:39:44 | dongs | maybe if statusbar is themeable, more people will use rockbox, and more people will be interested in fixing it? |
| 10:39:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's also "optimizing drivers" "improving codec performance" and a variety of other things |
| 10:39:50 | linuxstb | The second CPU will reduce battery life even more. |
| 10:40:06 | linuxstb | Which is one reason why it's not being used yet. |
| 10:40:20 | dongs | why is apple's mp3 codec "so great" so that it uses almost 5h more battery? |
| 10:40:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | People who use Rockbox because of the pretty factor are *probably* not the sort of people interested in diving into and assembly optimizing codecs. |
| 10:40:36 | linuxstb | Because it's been highly optimised by full-time professional programmers. |
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| 10:41:05 | dongs | linuxstb: so whats with the huge battery life gap? |
| 10:41:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: It's not really been investigated much right now. There are other greater priorities. |
| 10:41:58 | linuxstb | I'm sure we're not configuring the hardware in the most power-efficient way - and that may be hard to fix without documentation. |
| 10:42:14 | petur | dongs: every question you ask here is another 10 minutes time wasted of a programmer ;) |
| 10:42:23 | dongs | gee thanks. |
| 10:42:28 | dongs | feel free not to answer them mr programmer. |
| 10:42:36 | dongs | :D |
| 10:42:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not to mention he's now asking about ipod-specific features in the middle of a feature freeze in which ipod-specific stuff isn't supposed to be worked on. ;-) |
| 10:42:56 | LinusN | linuxstb: and rockbox is optimized by part-time professional programmers |
| 10:43:07 | linuxstb | LinusN: I know :) Sorry for the offense... |
| 10:43:15 | dongs | hm i dont see a patch for statusbar |
| 10:43:20 | linuxstb | (it came out badly - I'm a professional programmer...) |
| 10:43:22 | LinusN | :-) |
| 10:44:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: Funny, searching "Patches" for "Statusbar" I see two, one that says custom icons, and one that says costume statusbar, which is admittedly poor spelling but probably should be inferable. |
| 10:45:13 | dongs | oh. |
| 10:45:16 | dongs | yes i totally skipped over it. |
| 10:45:17 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2931 |
| 10:45:25 | dongs | the title was utterly meaningless. |
| 10:45:26 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2981 |
| 10:45:30 | dongs | except maybe if youre french or something. |
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| 10:45:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: "Statusbar custom icons" is totally meaningless, or are you just talking about the second one? |
| 10:45:55 | dongs | the costume one |
| 10:46:29 | dongs | what, does something like 'status_title[status_title_pl]!="Now Pausing"' even work?? |
| 10:46:43 | dongs | wtf @ that code |
| 10:46:55 | LinusN | dongs: there is a reason that patch is still in the tracker :-) |
| 10:46:59 | dongs | heh |
| 10:47:11 | preglow | hahahaha |
| 10:47:35 | preglow | it does work in other languages, yes |
| 10:48:14 | dongs | hrm. |
| 10:51:20 | dongs | at least it uses current system font for the bar. |
| 10:51:22 | dongs | thats a good start. |
| 10:51:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | On many screens the bar would be unreadable if it was the same font as the rest. |
| 10:54:45 | dongs | what the hell |
| 10:54:56 | dongs | the whole status text stuff in that patch does really stupid things |
| 10:55:00 | dongs | did the guy actually TEST it? |
| 10:55:10 | dongs | or did he jsut write it and hope it worked |
| 10:56:36 | LinusN | it worked for im, iirc |
| 10:56:38 | LinusN | him |
| 10:56:44 | LinusN | amazingly .-) |
| 10:56:47 | dongs | heh |
| 10:56:50 | petur | haven't seen paprica in quite some time... |
| 10:56:52 | dongs | well, i guess it might work. |
| 10:57:00 | dongs | if gcc optimized strings |
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| 10:57:08 | dongs | and he put the pointers into status_title[] |
| 10:57:18 | dongs | i suppose something like foo[] != "now playing" could work |
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| 10:58:10 | LinusN | it still has to support localization, so comparing string pointers is a no-go |
| 10:58:20 | dongs | yeah |
| 10:58:31 | dongs | but i guess thats why it worked. |
| 10:58:38 | LinusN | yup |
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| 11:01:34 | zigford | Welcome |
| 11:04:17 | dongs | oh fuck |
| 11:04:33 | dongs | i deleted my old rockbox dir with original apple firmware |
| 11:04:42 | dongs | can i get it back if I do a factory reset? |
| 11:05:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | The Apple Restore tool can always be used, yeah. |
| 11:05:42 | dongs | gonna see if I can pick it up from undelete |
| 11:05:47 | dongs | otherwise restore it is |
| 11:06:22 | RedBreva | are replaygain tags in WPS supported, or is a patch required? |
| 11:07:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it's not listed in the CustomWPS page, then a patch is required. It's pretty simple for someone to check for themselves. :) |
| 11:08:00 | zigford | On the note of tags. Why arne't my vorbis tags read? |
| 11:08:17 | zigford | point |
| 11:08:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | zigford: Under what circumstances aren't the Vorbis Comments read? |
| 11:08:55 | zigford | All |
| 11:09:11 | zigford | wps says "no id3" |
| 11:09:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | That doesn't mean the Vorbis Comments aren't read |
| 11:09:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does it show "Artist" where artist info belongs? |
| 11:09:32 | zigford | maybe |
| 11:09:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, it's a binary state. |
| 11:09:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | The answer is "Yes" or "No" |
| 11:09:57 | zigford | I know. I see your point and you are right. |
| 11:10:03 | zigford | it must be reading them |
| 11:10:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | "No id3" means the file doesn't have ID3 tags. It's actually quite literal |
| 11:10:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Any other metadata results in "No ID3." If I recall it's there to tell you which version of ID3 tags your file has, but I could be wrong about that last bit. |
| 11:10:52 | zigford | I realize. Is this normal for it to attempt to find an id3 in a vorbis file |
| 11:11:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | It doesn't. |
| 11:11:34 | zigford | Okay, so its part of the wps |
| 11:11:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | That would be the notion. |
| 11:11:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | :) |
| 11:12:18 | LinusN | that's part of the legacy from the old days, when rockbox only did mp3 |
| 11:13:03 | zigford | Ok. I am using a wps that doesn't do it now. I have seen a wps with song ratings. Is that part of a wps too? |
| 11:14:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | We don't have support in Rockbox for ratings at the moment. They were part of the old RuntimeDB, and not integrated with TagCache yet. |
| 11:14:39 | zigford | righteo |
| 11:15:20 | dongs | all the trouble to go through to get the updater.exe |
| 11:15:25 | dongs | without having to install that crap |
| 11:15:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Can't you just download it from apple.com? |
| 11:15:52 | dongs | and i guess ic ant use it anyway. needs ipod service or some other crap |
| 11:15:58 | dongs | no, i wanted to avoid having to install that stuff. |
| 11:16:18 | dongs | so unpacking msi, junk inside, but the 50meg .exe needs ipodservice running. |
| 11:16:31 | linuxstb | The Windows installation instructions in how wiki have a section describing how to get a copy of the original bootpartition.bin from the Apple updater. |
| 11:16:36 | linuxstb | s/how/our/ |
| 11:16:52 | dongs | lets see |
| 11:16:53 | * | linuxstb curses his brain... |
| 11:16:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | You don't have to run it, do you? |
| 11:17:13 | linuxstb | No - I think ipodwizard can extract the firmware from it. |
| 11:17:53 | linuxstb | It's even easier on a Mac - the boot partition images are just stored in the resources folder for the installer application on disk. |
| 11:18:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man |
| 11:18:50 | dongs | ah. they're as resources in the .exe version as well |
| 11:18:54 | dongs | how do i know which one is nano's? |
| 11:19:19 | linuxstb | Check the Mac OS X installation page - it has a table which maps Firmware versions to ipods. |
| 11:19:35 | linuxstb | (assuming you can see those numbers in Windows) |
| 11:20:23 | dongs | IDR_FIRMWARE-14.5.1.1 |
| 11:20:25 | dongs | looks liek that. |
| 11:20:33 | dongs | oh, 14 is also rockbox for nano |
| 11:21:31 | dongs | only like 6 megs though |
| 11:21:36 | dongs | compressed? |
| 11:21:47 | linuxstb | No - that's the whole thing. |
| 11:22:07 | linuxstb | You should just be able to use ipodpatcher.exe to write that to your boot partition. |
| 11:22:08 | dongs | starst with "stop" sign with apple computer.i nc? |
| 11:22:14 | linuxstb | Yep. The amusing ascii art. |
| 11:22:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | The perfect anti-hacker measure. |
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| 11:22:40 | dongs | "DontStealOSX.kext" |
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| 11:27:33 | dongs | so that 6meg thing includes everything? |
| 11:27:40 | dongs | resources,code, etc? |
| 11:27:47 | dongs | or is font and UI stuff in rom elsewhere? |
| 11:28:51 | linuxstb | I think that's everything. |
| 11:29:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's the file you modify when you want to change the font or images or whatnot, I believe |
| 11:29:37 | linuxstb | Also, Apple loads it all into RAM at boot. I don't know if it then discards anything though. |
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| 11:32:06 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:34:06 | dongs | oh, i see something that looks like graphics in that image. |
| 11:34:53 | dongs | i wonder if its anythign standard |
| 11:35:00 | dongs | is there stuff written to extract this junk?> |
| 11:35:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | iPodWizard |
| 11:36:20 | dongs | nice. |
| 11:44:14 | _Veseliq_ | damn, no msi mega view series support... |
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| 11:47:45 | amiconn | Bagder: 127.0.0.1 has a rather old m68k-elf-gcc (3.4.1) ... |
| 11:50:30 | ashridah | heh |
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| 12:06:54 | dongs | wow theres a lot of fonts in the apple firmware. |
| 12:07:04 | dongs | i should jsut rip them |
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| 12:12:35 | dongs | rockbox fonts are all 1bit right? |
| 12:12:40 | dongs | no grayscale/aliasing? |
| 12:12:48 | markun | dongs: that's right |
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| 12:21:13 | dongs | is it jsut me or screendump on the nano is kinda "off" |
| 12:21:19 | dongs | hm |
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| 12:21:28 | dongs | seems the bmp header isnt exaxctly right |
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| 12:22:44 | dongs | hm either that or windows image viewer is fucking osmething up |
| 12:23:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | "off" is not particularly descriptive in terms of "words that can be used to describe computer data" |
| 12:23:15 | dongs | the top line was missing |
| 12:23:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Like, one row of pixels? |
| 12:23:24 | dongs | but it seems its a feature of windows image viewer. |
| 12:23:25 | dongs | yes |
| 12:23:42 | dongs | it replaces the top line with a black line which is part of the image border. |
| 12:23:59 | dongs | when i opened it in paint it looked fine. |
| 12:23:59 | amiconn | The first line is usually less visible in the windows image viewer due to its anti-aliasing |
| 12:24:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not a big fan of windows image viewer |
| 12:24:41 | dongs | i think its great |
| 12:25:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it actually displayed images properly, it might be okay. |
| 12:25:35 | dongs | this is the first time i noticed it displaying "improperly" |
| 12:26:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | It hates the high-res Rockbox layer, for example. It's not uncommon for it to choke on things. |
| 12:26:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | logo, rather |
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| 12:31:59 | ravon | rofl!! A cat just popped a squirrel outside our window. |
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| 12:32:44 | ravon | Speaking of that. Time for lunch. |
| 12:33:13 | dongs | hm. charger_inserted in power.c is a no-op for ipod, but yet i get a plug icon in statusbar |
| 12:33:23 | dongs | why? |
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| 12:36:06 | * | dpro wonders what ravon is having for lunch ... |
| 12:37:01 | LinusN | dpro: :-) |
| 12:37:46 | petur | smileys? tasty ones? |
| 12:38:26 | dongs | hm i guess that icon isnt charging but a usb plug. |
| 12:38:45 | dongs | really hard to tell since its like 5x5 pixels |
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| 12:41:01 | theli_ua | how do you debug plugins? :( |
| 12:42:18 | linuxstb | Use the simulator. |
| 12:44:02 | theli_ua | yeah ... how do i make breakponts .... know where plugin crashed simulator :) |
| 12:44:13 | linuxstb | gdb |
| 12:44:48 | dongs | so, mp3 decoding in ipod nano is in software? |
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| 12:44:57 | dongs | (in apple firmware) |
| 12:45:02 | dongs | or do they use that portalplayer shit |
| 12:45:14 | linuxstb | The software runs on that portalplayer shit... |
| 12:45:34 | linuxstb | The portalplayer chip contains the two CPUs. |
| 12:45:38 | dongs | ah. |
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| 12:46:19 | dongs | so thats the arm7 core or whatever? |
| 12:46:25 | linuxstb | Yes - two of them. |
| 12:46:32 | LinusN | linuxstb: speaking of cpu, what use do we have of the second cp? |
| 12:46:32 | linuxstb | arm7tdmi |
| 12:46:34 | LinusN | cpu? |
| 12:46:42 | linuxstb | At the moment, nothing. It's sleeping. |
| 12:46:47 | dj-fu | put the EQ on it!! |
| 12:46:59 | dj-fu | realtime eq + crossfeed + playback please :] |
| 12:47:07 | * | dj-fu dances |
| 12:47:12 | linuxstb | That's the easy way out. (and it's not exactly simple either) |
| 12:47:25 | * | dongs sells external battery kits to go with that feature |
| 12:47:28 | linuxstb | IMO, one CPU should be able to handle all that when it optimise. |
| 12:47:36 | linuxstb | s/it/we/ |
| 12:47:59 | LinusN | linuxstb: you mean we shouldn't use the second cpu at all? |
| 12:48:01 | dongs | i wonder how much performance can be gained by ads/rvct compiling of at least say mp3 codec |
| 12:48:08 | dongs | can this be measured somehow? |
| 12:48:13 | dpro | why not use it for the gba emulator ;) |
| 12:49:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Clearly the second CPU should be used so that we can play Doom while listening to our own soundtracks. |
| 12:49:17 | linuxstb | dongs: IMO, it's a waste of time trying to compile Rockbox with commercial compilers. Rockbox should be built with open source tools, so we should concentrate on optimising that situation. |
| 12:49:56 | B4gder | I agree |
| 12:50:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Thirded, for what I'm worth. |
| 12:50:35 | dongs | obviously you've never seen the difference between code produced by gcc and a "real compiler" |
| 12:50:38 | dongs | :D |
| 12:50:49 | linuxstb | I don't doubt that. But I don't care. |
| 12:51:04 | LinusN | amen |
| 12:51:30 | dongs | :( |
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| 12:55:31 | ScoTTie | is there anyway to open files in the hidden ipod directory ? |
| 12:55:40 | dongs | yea allow viewing all files |
| 12:55:46 | dongs | in settings somewehre |
| 12:55:54 | ScoTTie | sweet thanks |
| 12:55:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hold the Menu button while in the filetree, for a few seconds |
| 12:56:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | That'll get you the quick menu |
| 12:56:08 | dongs | general->file view |
| 12:56:14 | dpro | dongs: and the 'real' compiler won't work on freeBSD or linux/ppc ... |
| 12:56:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: The quick menu's a lot easier |
| 12:56:52 | dongs | dpro: lol, again, you either get code that runs 20% faster or you get compatibility with communism |
| 12:56:56 | dongs | which one is more important? |
| 12:57:04 | preglow | last |
| 12:57:11 | preglow | we don't have commercial compilers |
| 12:57:12 | dpro | BTW the official arm ltd. compiler sucks (and is quite costly) |
| 12:57:14 | linuxstb | LinusN: Going back to your second CPU question, I'm not saying we shouldn't use it, just that I think getting everything Rockbox currently does (regarding audio playback) working together on one CPU is a feasible optimisation target. |
| 12:57:15 | preglow | and i don't want to buy one |
| 12:57:18 | preglow | that's the end of the line for me |
| 12:57:24 | preglow | gcc sure sucks |
| 12:57:27 | preglow | but that's another matter |
| 12:57:28 | dj-fu | linuxstb, do you think that's possible? |
| 12:57:29 | dpro | dongs: communism ? freeBSD ? huh ? |
| 12:57:41 | preglow | linuxstb: agreed |
| 12:57:41 | * | dpro must have missed something or dongs missed OSX |
| 12:57:53 | dj-fu | linux=communism remember :) |
| 12:57:58 | dj-fu | it was invented by soviet hackers in the cold war |
| 12:58:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not to mention dongs is here using Rockbox and yet speaking against the very philosophies that created it... |
| 12:58:06 | dongs | dpro: ads/rvct sucks? really now. |
| 12:58:06 | ScoTTie | changing the quick menu to all didnt seem to work for me |
| 12:58:09 | * | dj-fu votes for a ban |
| 12:58:13 | ScoTTie | did it the long way and it worked |
| 12:58:13 | dongs | ... |
| 12:58:24 | preglow | dongs: how much do they charge for ads? |
| 12:58:32 | dpro | dj-fu: ah ... ;) |
| 12:58:38 | dongs | ads is old |
| 12:58:39 | B4gder | dongs: you gonna pay for a license to all of us? |
| 12:58:40 | LinusN | dongs: may i ask why you are constantly throwing flamebait around? |
| 12:58:44 | dongs | few k though. |
| 12:58:48 | linuxstb | dongs: Are you suggesting that any user who wants to compile their own custom Rockbox build needs to buy a compiler? |
| 12:58:55 | dj-fu | lol~! |
| 12:59:01 | dj-fu | that's not very oss. |
| 12:59:04 | dpro | linuxstb: he probably works for them ;) |
| 12:59:08 | B4gder | for "a few K" USD |
| 12:59:11 | preglow | hahaha |
| 12:59:19 | dpro | linuxstb: and apple sure bought a few licenses |
| 12:59:21 | preglow | but yeah |
| 12:59:23 | preglow | we need a gcc guy here |
| 12:59:25 | dongs | dpro: i dont doubt it |
| 12:59:28 | preglow | who volunteers to dive into gcc? |
| 12:59:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | ScoTTie: If the quick menu doesn't work for you, why haven't you verified its reproducability and then either filed a bug report, or added on to an existing one? |
| 12:59:34 | dj-fu | and look wha ta crappy job apple did |
| 12:59:48 | * | linuxstb starts poking himself in the eye with a sharp stick to avoid gcc |
| 12:59:53 | ScoTTie | because i found out about 5 seconds ago when you asked me |
| 12:59:55 | ScoTTie | heh |
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| 13:00:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 13:00:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's always worked for me. ;-) |
| 13:00:23 | dj-fu | in soviet russia, rockbox compiles you |
| 13:00:38 | preglow | dj-fu: another slashdotism here, and i'll have to kickban you |
| 13:00:47 | dj-fu | oh noes |
| 13:00:50 | preglow | even though i'm not +o |
| 13:00:54 | dj-fu | what's a slashdotism? I don't follo /. |
| 13:00:55 | preglow | i'll manage somehow! |
| 13:00:57 | dj-fu | +w. |
| 13:01:08 | preglow | dj-fu: good |
| 13:01:23 | dpro | dj-fu: yeah someone write a c compiler plugin !!! |
| 13:01:27 | preglow | the slashdot crowd tends to throw around jokes likes that for, oh, a couple of years at a time |
| 13:01:30 | preglow | it gets tiring |
| 13:01:44 | dj-fu | It was referring to the communism statement |
| 13:01:48 | dj-fu | but yeah, not very well |
| 13:01:50 | preglow | i know |
| 13:01:50 | preglow | haha |
| 13:01:50 | * | dj-fu nods |
| 13:01:53 | dongs | Today, the majority of the four billion ARM Powered™ devices worldwide have software created with RealView tools. Investing in the RealView solution is the clear choice for a safe, reliable and high-performance design. < see, ARM knows what's best for YOU. |
| 13:02:09 | LinusN | we must obey |
| 13:02:13 | preglow | surely we must |
| 13:02:15 | B4gder | dongs: then buy us licenses and shut up |
| 13:02:22 | preglow | grab some cash from the donation fund and get us a compiler server, now |
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| 13:02:23 | * | dpro obeys , gets credit card |
| 13:02:30 | dj-fu | l0l |
| 13:02:48 | preglow | and while we're at it, let's get some coldfire tools too |
| 13:02:52 | LinusN | and sh1 |
| 13:02:57 | linuxstb | and ida pro for all |
| 13:03:01 | LinusN | and calmrisc |
| 13:03:11 | B4gder | and cool hw debuggers/emulators |
| 13:03:27 | dpro | jtag adaptors |
| 13:05:39 | preglow | and let's sell rockbox!!!11 |
| 13:05:49 | preglow | you guys don't know how much cash you're missing out on |
| 13:05:55 | LinusN | haha |
| 13:06:06 | dongs | huhu |
| 13:06:56 | dpro | who volunteers for the actual (rock)box, the manual, shipping logistics and the 24h call-center-slave hotline ? |
| 13:07:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I'm already doing that last one in text-mode. |
| 13:07:30 | petur | :D |
| 13:07:35 | linuxstb | 1-800-PAUL-THE-NERD ? |
| 13:07:48 | petur | rotfl |
| 13:07:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Drop the Paul, and I wonder if it's taken... |
| 13:08:56 | linuxstb | Dial it and find out... |
| 13:09:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nah, man, if I couldn't read through what I'd typed and edit out some of the more descriptive terms before clicking "Post" I don't think I'd be able to survive. |
| 13:09:19 | preglow | so, anyone, what's the situation on wpses for 3.0? |
| 13:09:36 | petur | margins! |
| 13:09:54 | preglow | if that is to happen, it should happen right now |
| 13:10:43 | preglow | afaik, no one has even thought on what wps(es) to bundle yet, and the process won't be simplified by including a new patch the last week |
| 13:11:18 | linuxstb | I think Cassandra was working on changing the WPS build system - not sure how far she got though. |
| 13:11:44 | linuxstb | But yes, that doesn't solve the issue of which WPSs to bundle. |
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| 13:14:26 | preglow | not really many good h3x0 wpses |
| 13:15:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | I thought there were a ton of 'em. Or are they all at MR, or !good, or both? |
| 13:15:36 | preglow | i'm just looking at the wiki |
| 13:15:41 | preglow | and there's also the issue of whether we want to keep a uniform appearance across targets |
| 13:16:12 | dj-fu | bundle zezayer |
| 13:16:13 | petur | many on MR need at least those margins, many also do album art... |
| 13:16:15 | dj-fu | it's the winner |
| 13:17:19 | preglow | yeah, mr has some nice ones |
| 13:17:28 | preglow | i still think a competition would be a nice idea |
| 13:18:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | It would be nice. At least, for another official one to go alongside Rockbox_default and Boxes. |
| 13:19:19 | preglow | i don't like boxes too much. i think it's too crowded |
| 13:20:42 | preglow | LinusN: will you have the time to look at the h3x0 power consumption stuff before release? |
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| 13:23:12 | linuxstb | Is this the margins patch we are talking about? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2954 |
| 13:23:26 | preglow | yes |
| 13:24:02 | preglow | i've gotta say i'm a bit against applying it at this time |
| 13:24:09 | preglow | too late, we've got enough to do before release as it is |
| 13:24:32 | preglow | and it does change quite a bit of code |
| 13:26:38 | petur | instead of changing lcd_setmargins() everywhere he should have created a new function |
| 13:27:04 | linuxstb | Looking at the patch, it "only" seems to do the following: lcd_setmargins(x,y) -> lcd_setmargins(x1,x2,y), lcd_getxmargin() -> lcd_getleftmargin(); and adds a new lcd_getrightmargin() function. (plus the same for the remote) |
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| 13:27:46 | linuxstb | So yes, it changes a lot of code, but it's just the same changes applied everywhere. |
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| 13:28:06 | petur | he should have made lcd_setmargins(x,y) call lcd_setmargins(xa,x2,y) itself |
| 13:28:55 | petur | changed much more code than needed |
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| 13:50:46 | amiconn | We do want to switch to viewports anyway - after 3.0 |
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| 13:53:23 | linuxstb | I think I'm now agreeing to leave any WPS patches out as well - make 3.1 the big "eye candy" release. |
| 13:54:15 | preglow | yeap |
| 13:54:20 | B4gder | agreed |
| 13:54:20 | Mikachu | bug freeze, only add new features |
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| 13:54:35 | preglow | earlier would have been fine |
| 13:54:37 | preglow | but too late now |
| 13:54:48 | B4gder | fireworks is a suitable name for 3.1 then :) |
| 13:56:46 | preglow | but i'm gone for the weeked |
| 13:56:48 | preglow | later, all |
| 13:56:59 | linuxstb | bye |
| 13:57:08 | dpro | anyone knows of an easy way to tell an ipod mini 1g from a 2g ? |
| 13:57:41 | linuxstb | Only the 2g has the HD capacity engraved on the back. |
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| 13:59:30 | XavierGr | yeah a WPS contest would be very good. |
| 13:59:45 | XavierGr | Is there any chance that default WPS changes for various targets? |
| 13:59:50 | dpro | linuxstb: thx ... now that's really easy ;) |
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| 14:00:03 | B4gder | XavierGr: I would say there's a chance, if anyone would work on it |
| 14:00:09 | * | dpro officially declares the mini next to him 2g |
| 14:01:29 | XavierGr | B4gder: I know a person which is designing a WPS adapted for all screen targets and using all the great stuff that a wps can currently give. |
| 14:01:29 | dwihno | B4gder: What happened to the t-shirt contest? ;) |
| 14:01:49 | XavierGr | Maybe there will be a patch later today. |
| 14:01:53 | * | B4gder slaps dwihno with an old fish |
| 14:01:55 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Will that work without any patches? |
| 14:02:06 | dwihno | :) |
| 14:02:10 | XavierGr | yes |
| 14:02:25 | XavierGr | the patch will be the submission of the WPSs |
| 14:02:40 | linuxstb | Any screenshots available? |
| 14:03:23 | XavierGr | hmm he showed me yesterday his work, only iPod 5g remains to be adapted. I really liked the screenshots. |
| 14:03:30 | XavierGr | wait I will try to find a link |
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| 14:38:21 | zigford | XavierGr: Did you find the link? |
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| 14:41:47 | XavierGr | http://users.teilam.gr/~yngwiejo/iCatcher-Patchtracker.PNG |
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| 14:51:46 | _FireFly_ | XavierGr: there is no remote images ;) |
| 14:52:03 | XavierGr | yes there is a saperate link for them |
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| 14:52:20 | bot47 | Hi there |
| 14:52:26 | XavierGr | http://users.teilam.gr/~yngwiejo/iCatcher-Remotes.PNG |
| 14:53:56 | bot47 | The recently implemented method to enable the Dock Connector's power of iPods seems to brake the iPod Radio Remote! |
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| 14:56:44 | bot47 | Just in the case anyone cares... |
| 14:57:13 | petur | ipod accessories are not supported yet |
| 14:58:43 | bot47 | I just want to warn anyone not to use their remotes with build including firmware/drivers/pcf50605.c version 1.8! |
| 14:59:06 | Mikachu | bot47: you mean physically break? |
| 14:59:15 | B4gder | so it actually _breaks_ for good? |
| 14:59:41 | bot47 | Yes, I'm not quite sure, but it really looks like that. I'm currently prooving it |
| 14:59:58 | bot47 | Yes, either the remote or the ipod |
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| 15:00:03 | linuxstb | Does that plug into the dock or the remote connector by the headphone socket? |
| 15:00:22 | linuxstb | ^dock connector |
| 15:02:42 | bot47 | It still works sporadically, but sometimes the radio, the keys, or even nothing won't work at all. And also, the ipod displays sometime a message like "This Accesoire cannot be used with this iPod." |
| 15:03:19 | petur | you mean when using it in apple fw? |
| 15:03:26 | bot47 | Of course |
| 15:06:22 | bot47 | I'm triple checked that the remote's behaviour is wrong. I'm now trying to figure about what exactly caused the problem, but it shortly began after the CVS commit I posted. I will now test if it was really broken by Rockbox. |
| 15:08:40 | linuxstb | One thing I would say is that that code is found in IPL, which in turn found it by reverse-engineering the diagnostics mode in a 4g ipod. So it's possible we shouldn't do it on the 5g and Nano. |
| 15:09:38 | linuxstb | But it does seem to make some accessories work, so it would be a shame to revert it. |
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| 15:13:28 | bot47 | I just restored my iPod's software to remove iPL 2.4b2 |
| 15:13:41 | bot47 | Did not really do anything. |
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| 15:17:11 | linuxstb | Is that the same version of the Apple firmware that you were running before? |
| 15:17:45 | bot47 | yes |
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| 15:18:24 | bot47 | and in the beginning 1.1.1 worked properly |
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| 15:20:47 | webguest02 | Interesting => http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=41305 |
| 15:21:39 | linuxstb | bot47: The only conclusive test I can think of would be to return your Radio Remote and get a replacement, and then see if you can break it again. |
| 15:21:49 | linuxstb | (just using that patch) |
| 15:22:00 | bot47 | lol ;) |
| 15:22:10 | bot47 | not exactly what i want |
| 15:22:27 | B4gder | we want sacrifices! ;-) |
| 15:22:40 | B4gder | and you have been chosen |
| 15:22:47 | B4gder | congratulations |
| 15:22:49 | B4gder | ;-) |
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| 15:27:38 | bot47 | I'm going to get a replacement, but I don't really know if I want to break it again. I didn't bought it in my town, but 50km away. It is not visibly damaged, so I bet I get a replacement. |
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| 15:40:17 | Lynx_ | Is it a known bug that audio pauses on long scrolling in the file browser? |
| 15:40:46 | linuxstb | On ipods, yes. |
| 15:40:54 | Lynx_ | no, this is H300 |
| 15:41:39 | linuxstb | It's possible, but I don't own one, so can't say for sure. |
| 15:41:45 | linuxstb | I _think_ others have reported it though. |
| 15:41:57 | Lynx_ | hmm, could not find a report on flyspray |
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| 15:42:54 | linuxstb | It's not really a bug as such, more the fact that you're asking Rockbox to do too much at the same time, and it can't currently keep up. At least, that's the ipod reason. |
| 15:43:19 | linuxstb | But wait and see if an H300 developer answers your question.... |
| 15:43:25 | Lynx_ | ok |
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| 15:44:28 | amiconn | Same on H300 |
| 15:44:43 | XavierGr | lynx: what audio format are you playing when that happens |
| 15:44:51 | Lynx_ | XavierGr: just mp3 |
| 15:45:30 | XavierGr | 128? |
| 15:45:31 | amiconn | It happens with all formats sooner or later |
| 15:45:43 | amiconn | (well, perhaps not with wav or such - didn't try) |
| 15:46:05 | XavierGr | I didn't know that |
| 15:47:51 | Lynx_ | so it's not considered a bug? |
| 15:48:02 | B4gder | I would call it a bug |
| 15:49:43 | Lynx_ | it's kinda annoying, too |
| 15:50:31 | Lynx_ | why does it happen anyway, what changes from scrolling for 2 sec to scrolling for 4 secs? |
| 15:50:38 | Mikachu | the buffer runs out |
| 15:50:42 | Lynx_ | ah |
| 15:51:19 | muesli- | re |
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| 16:01:14 | amiconn | gah |
| 16:01:16 | Lynx_ | did something about dircache change? can't find it in the menu anymore |
| 16:04:05 | PaulJam | Are there any plans to implement the crossfade settings with only 3 parameters (fade in duration; fade out duration; overlap) before the 3.0 release? |
| 16:05:23 | B4gder | at least I haven't seen any huge crowds volounteering for that |
| 16:08:19 | Romanos | is there any way to get an html viewer for rockbox? |
| 16:08:22 | Romanos | lol |
| 16:08:29 | B4gder | Romanos: yes, write one! |
| 16:08:33 | Romanos | :P |
| 16:08:52 | PaulJam | or hope that someone else writes one |
| 16:09:07 | B4gder | or pay someone else to write it! |
| 16:09:31 | Romanos | the fonts would be that small , that u're going to need a microscope to read them |
| 16:10:08 | B4gder | well, lots of phones have browsers |
| 16:10:21 | B4gder | and several of them with LCDs smaller than the biggest rockbox targets |
| 16:10:22 | Romanos | u mean pdas? |
| 16:10:29 | B4gder | phones |
| 16:10:40 | Romanos | phones like mobile ones? |
| 16:10:43 | B4gder | yes |
| 16:11:00 | Romanos | yeah.. but aren't they 3gs? |
| 16:11:05 | B4gder | some are |
| 16:11:32 | Romanos | i reckon you're talkin about wap |
| 16:11:40 | B4gder | no |
| 16:11:49 | B4gder | I have a gsm phone that shows HTML pages |
| 16:11:52 | RedBreva | I ran Opera on my Nokia 6600... Nothing 3G or WAP |
| 16:11:58 | Romanos | really? |
| 16:12:05 | Romanos | i didn't knew that |
| 16:12:08 | B4gder | and its not even a new phone |
| 16:12:15 | Romanos | so anything is possible |
| 16:12:21 | B4gder | of course its possible |
| 16:12:24 | RedBreva | It was quite good actually! |
| 16:12:37 | B4gder | my phone has a 220x176 screen |
| 16:12:41 | Romanos | dreamweaver on rockbox???? |
| 16:12:43 | Romanos | heheheh |
| 16:12:47 | B4gder | which is the h300 size... |
| 16:12:51 | B4gder | just rotated |
| 16:12:58 | Slasheri | i have a phone with qwerty keyboard, wlan, gprs and putty ssh (nice for irc with irssi) :) |
| 16:13:16 | Romanos | nice |
| 16:13:19 | Slasheri | so that is very possible indeed |
| 16:14:26 | Romanos | if i could view html content through my rockbox, that would really be so neet |
| 16:14:26 | RedBreva | in a WPS, does the background image sit infront of the text? |
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| 16:15:02 | B4gder | no |
| 16:15:10 | B4gder | the backdrop is always behind |
| 16:15:44 | RedBreva | Uhmmm, so why can't I see the text unless I use ff00ff |
| 16:16:15 | B4gder | is that really a backdrop image you're talking about? |
| 16:16:24 | RedBreva | Redbreva Goes away to check his WPS code again.... |
| 16:16:28 | B4gder | perhaps I'm just halucinating |
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| 16:18:14 | RedBreva | %x|a|background.bmp|0|0| |
| 16:18:49 | PaulJam | RedBreva: if you load the image with %x the image is in front of the text, you need to load the image with %X |
| 16:19:03 | RedBreva | Ahhhh! Thank you |
| 16:20:00 | PaulJam | in your case this would be %X|background.bmp| (the image needs to be the size of the display) |
| 16:21:07 | B4gder | back in the days when I hacked WPS, there was just a handful of tags ;-) |
| 16:21:27 | * | B4gder gets that dazy nostalgic look in his face |
| 16:23:26 | RedBreva | Ah, the other glitch was because forground/background colours are american :( |
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| 16:25:20 | amiconn | XavierGr: These iCatcher WPSes look quite good ('cept that I don't like centered text personally). However, the ipod mini is also capable of displaying 4 greylevels just as H1x0 and ipod 4g. |
| 16:26:31 | * | amiconn wonders what the corel icon like symbol does in the statusbar |
| 16:26:57 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: Glad you like the wps.... |
| 16:27:29 | Genre9mp3 | I'm currently working on the iPod5G version as well.. |
| 16:28:24 | Genre9mp3 | Since when the iPod Mini supports grayscale??? I was working on a sim I compiled some time ago and it didn't work... |
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| 16:33:20 | XavierGr | amiconn: what corell icon? |
| 16:33:36 | XavierGr | the circle with dots is the volume |
| 16:36:43 | Genre9mp3 | It also animates when seeking or paused |
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| 16:41:41 | amiconn | The mini supports 4-gray since the beginning... |
| 16:42:51 | amiconn | It uses the very same driver as the 4g greyscale ipod |
| 16:43:37 | Genre9mp3 | I got blury images with 24bit bmps in the sim... |
| 16:44:10 | Genre9mp3 | I'll recompile a sim with the latest fix and I'll work on that.. |
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| 16:46:43 | Genre9mp3 | also I managed to remove the unnessecary "%al" tags in the code |
| 16:55:14 | lostlogic | XavierGr: so now, are you _sure_ that the remaining noise you are _supposedly_ ;) hearing is not just the transition between the levels of the two tracks? |
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| 17:28:25 | RedBreva | Is the Nano very slow at file operations, or is my USB port playing up - 6 minutes to delete 8 unwanted WPS folders!! |
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| 17:34:05 | ashridah | hurray for lots of tiny files |
| 17:34:29 | ashridah | RedBreva: i seem to recall talk of the disk mode being a very slow implementation |
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| 17:34:39 | ashridah | (on ipods in general) |
| 17:34:46 | ashridah | i could be talking out of my ass tho ;) |
| 17:35:23 | RedBreva | hehehe, Ok, thanks ... Just tried on another port and it's still dog slow :( |
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| 17:58:07 | goffa | heh.. my video card just saved me $1600 |
| 17:58:19 | goffa | just about bought a dell 3007wfp |
| 17:58:40 | goffa | but i need a new vid card... |
| 17:59:44 | goffa | i would really like a 30" monitor for dvds though |
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| 18:07:20 | mikearthur | is Rockbox getting sued? |
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| 18:34:29 | XavierGr | lostlogic: Tonight I will make another recording for you to hear what I am saying. I doubt that it is what you say, but who knows maybe I am wrong. |
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| 18:54:47 | sn1ff | how can I quit rockbox?! |
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| 19:23:23 | _FireFly_ | sn1ff: what do you mean with "quit rockbox"? |
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| 19:31:59 | Presence | rockbox, I wish I could quit you. |
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| 19:32:29 | _FireFly_ | Presence: ? |
| 19:32:54 | Presence | haha, its a joke. |
| 19:33:21 | Presence | quote kinda from "Brokeback Mountain", a movie about gay cowboys. |
| 19:33:39 | Presence | and apparently they use rockbox. |
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| 19:38:55 | dpro | hehe aren't we all just gay cowboys ;) |
| 19:42:30 | Acksaw | lol |
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| 19:50:59 | ericmoritz\0 | hello |
| 19:54:02 | Hansmaulwurf | hi |
| 19:55:05 | ericmoritz\0 | when are the dailys built (what time) |
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| 20:00:09 | bluebrother | ericmoritz\0: sometime during the night. Just look at the http headers. |
| 20:00:30 | bluebrother | last build for h120 is for example: Last-Modified: Fri, 05 May 2006 04:25:12 GMT |
| 20:00:35 | Hansmaulwurf | yeah |
| 20:00:39 | Hansmaulwurf | and here: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/changes-20060505.html |
| 20:00:46 | Hansmaulwurf | u can see what changes are included |
| 20:00:56 | ericmoritz\0 | Hansmaulwurf: thanks I was looking for the changelog |
| 20:01:21 | bluebrother | but why is the exact time important? If you want the newest build you should use the cvs builds. |
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| 20:01:41 | bluebrother | actually the daily builds are cvs builds, but only build once a day. |
| 20:02:57 | ericmoritz\0 | I wanted to know if the tagcache playlist fix was in the latest build |
| 20:03:35 | bluebrother | bottom of the page: Changes done <lastdailybuild> |
| 20:03:41 | Hansmaulwurf | then install the bleeding edge build |
| 20:03:52 | Hansmaulwurf | they are updated with every change (I think) |
| 20:04:19 | bluebrother | so the latest daily build doesn't have the fix. |
| 20:04:44 | ericmoritz\0 | yeah |
| 20:04:48 | Hansmaulwurf | looks like |
| 20:05:08 | bluebrother | the changelog tells ;-) |
| 20:05:16 | _FireFly_ | the bleeding edge builds are done after each cvs commit |
| 20:05:29 | ericmoritz\0 | this is what I'm looking for :) http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-05-05%2007:01:51.html |
| 20:06:28 | bluebrother | just look at the changes of the latest daily build: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/changes-20060505.html |
| 20:06:52 | bluebrother | latest change is 3:13 |
| 20:07:14 | ericmoritz\0 | yeah, it's not in there, I'll have to install the bleeding edge one or wait until tommorrow morning |
| 20:07:23 | bluebrother | comparing with the cvs log on the frontpage tells us directly the fix you mean was comitted later. |
| 20:07:38 | bluebrother | meaning it isn't included, so you need to use a cvs build. |
| 20:07:49 | ericmoritz\0 | yeah I know :) |
| 20:08:04 | bluebrother | I don't see any point in waiting. |
| 20:08:08 | Hansmaulwurf | i dont the a reason why one should wait for a daily build |
| 20:08:21 | Hansmaulwurf | see |
| 20:08:29 | ericmoritz\0 | Hansmaulwurf: I forgot the usb cable at home :) |
| 20:08:40 | ericmoritz\0 | Hansmaulwurf: that's why I'd have to wait |
| 20:08:45 | Hansmaulwurf | lol then why are u asking? |
| 20:08:48 | Hansmaulwurf | :P |
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| 20:09:23 | ericmoritz\0 | Hansmaulwurf: because I can probably beg for a cable for someone at work |
| 20:09:47 | ericmoritz\0 | and I asked about the commit time before I knew about the bleeding edge builds |
| 20:10:51 | ericmoritz\0 | I probably have to kill the .rockbox folder with every build update don't I |
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| 20:11:41 | Pi | does anyone know a simple function that tells if the USB is connected or not? |
| 20:12:09 | PaulJam | you can just copy the new build over the old one |
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| 20:29:07 | linuxstb_ | Pi: What do you need to do? |
| 20:29:17 | ericmoritz\0 | PaulJam: what if the configuration format changes? |
| 20:29:34 | Pi | I think i just sorted it |
| 20:30:15 | Pi | I am/was trying to set it up that when you press play, in the menu, it quits to the menu compleatly |
| 20:30:34 | linuxstb_ | ericmoritz\0: Rockbox will automatically reset the settings to the defaults when it detects the config format changes. You don't need to delete .rockbox (I never do). |
| 20:30:36 | PaulJam | the configuration is stored on a special sector on the disk, not in the .rockbox folder |
| 20:30:46 | ericmoritz\0 | ah |
| 20:30:52 | Pi | i wanted to set it up so that if the usb was conected it wouldent return to the wps |
| 20:30:59 | ericmoritz\0 | that's why the colors stayed the same |
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| 20:32:19 | bluebrother | ericmoritz\0: you can of course save your settings to a file somewhere in .rockbox and reload it if the config format changes. |
| 20:32:48 | Pi | insted I just checked to see if music was playing and i think it is working |
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| 21:51:08 | Romanos | :) |
| 21:51:57 | XavierGr | lostlogic: are you around? |
| 21:52:51 | Romanos | hi xavier? |
| 21:52:54 | Romanos | :P |
| 21:53:28 | XavierGr | hi |
| 21:53:49 | Romanos | got any ideas on how to implement an html viewer for rockbox.. lol |
| 21:54:00 | XavierGr | I don't even know html |
| 21:54:31 | Romanos | well.. u don't need to know html to create one |
| 21:54:32 | Romanos | :P |
| 21:54:50 | speacial_ed | I have a 5g winpod and I have Rockbox IPL and Retail OS, however from the loader where you choose one of the three if I pick "Retail OS" it simply loads up IPL... I installed with silvius "5g easy install" tutorial. Any help? |
| 21:54:51 | ericmoritz\0 | use lynx :) |
| 21:55:06 | ericmoritz\0 | port lynx i mean |
| 21:55:13 | Romanos | get ridd of ipl loader |
| 21:55:26 | Romanos | it's crap |
| 21:55:56 | speacial_ed | then how do i choose which one to run? |
| 21:56:19 | Romanos | Rockbox IPL? |
| 21:56:24 | Romanos | what r u talkin about? |
| 21:56:42 | Romanos | u mean the three of them right? |
| 21:56:53 | Romanos | rockbox, ipl and retail |
| 21:57:06 | speacial_ed | yes |
| 21:57:15 | Romanos | just install rockbox |
| 21:57:29 | Romanos | and then ipl |
| 21:57:44 | Romanos | and use the loader tutorial for ipl |
| 21:58:02 | Romanos | but in my personal bad experience i wouldn't use ipl's loader |
| 21:58:04 | speacial_ed | no other way? Id rather not go through all of that again |
| 21:58:40 | Romanos | i know that u wanna give it a shot, but i'm tellin ya.. it's not worth it |
| 21:58:52 | Romanos | hang on.. |
| 21:59:37 | Romanos | this is what i used to figure out loader http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9615 |
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| 22:00:18 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: rockbox' bootloader can load all three |
| 22:00:41 | Romanos | yep.. and it accomplishes that really smoothly |
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| 22:00:42 | speacial_ed | someway I can just replace it without doing too much? |
| 22:00:50 | Romanos | nah |
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| 22:01:11 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: just install the rockbox bootloader |
| 22:01:16 | Romanos | exactly |
| 22:01:34 | Romanos | well, he's already got it |
| 22:01:35 | speacial_ed | where do i get it? |
| 22:01:45 | speacial_ed | 0_o so lost |
| 22:01:46 | Romanos | you already have it mate |
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| 22:02:25 | Romanos | just press any button once when u see the apple logo at rebbot proccess |
| 22:02:33 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: firstly, ignore Romanos, secondly, go to rockbox.org and read the instructions for installing rockbox bootloader |
| 22:02:38 | Romanos | u should boot into ipl right away |
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| 22:03:05 | speacial_ed | sorry romanos I have to follow mikachu on this one hes helped me out before |
| 22:03:47 | Romanos | yeah.. no worries, i really try to figure out how bad manners can a human person have |
| 22:03:55 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: do you still have an apple_os.bin? |
| 22:04:06 | Mikachu | Romanos: i think you mastered bad manners long ago |
| 22:04:31 | Romanos | hmm i really don't remember doing that |
| 22:04:38 | speacial_ed | where would the apple_os.bin be located? |
| 22:04:53 | Romanos | but anyway we all get judged by our actions and behaviour |
| 22:04:56 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: you would have used in when installing the ipl bootloader |
| 22:05:20 | speacial_ed | soo... how do I check? |
| 22:06:00 | speacial_ed | i dont see it in my second partition.. should it be there? |
| 22:06:14 | Mikachu | on your computer |
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| 22:06:18 | speacial_ed | ooooo |
| 22:06:23 | speacial_ed | Im dumb sorry |
| 22:06:28 | speacial_ed | i have it yes |
| 22:07:38 | Doomed | hey, does tagcache have a "add to playlist" option in yet...i no it keeps changing |
| 22:08:00 | Doomed | nevermind |
| 22:08:04 | Doomed | just read the cvs |
| 22:08:07 | ericmoritz\0 | Doomed: The latest cvs build has it |
| 22:08:19 | ericmoritz\0 | I just installed it an hour ago |
| 22:08:25 | Doomed | nice? |
| 22:08:42 | ericmoritz\0 | works as expected |
| 22:09:16 | m0ra | Im stuck at the bootloader intalling to my ipon nano. Done ipodpatcher from 0-100 and nothing found. It replys alway with "Error opening disk..." exept with 0 it replys "Drive is not a ipod, aborting" |
| 22:09:18 | speacial_ed | Mikachu: so should I just install the rockbox bootloader? |
| 22:09:25 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: yeah |
| 22:09:56 | m0ra | any solution advices? |
| 22:10:00 | | Quit cismo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 22:10:12 | Romanos | special , u've already got the bootloader |
| 22:10:35 | sn1ff | m0ra: what about disconnecting all the other devices |
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| 22:10:47 | m0ra | all other usb devices? |
| 22:10:52 | sn1ff | yes |
| 22:10:58 | m0ra | I'll give it a go |
| 22:11:00 | ericmoritz\0 | m0ra: I installed it on the nano, but I was using Linux so I don't know... are is it drive mode? |
| 22:11:15 | m0ra | drive mode? |
| 22:11:37 | Romanos | drive mode only when connected via usb |
| 22:11:59 | m0ra | do i haveto switch my ipod to a certain mode for this to work? the install document said nothing about that :c |
| 22:12:15 | ericmoritz\0 | m0ra: I don't know |
| 22:12:51 | Mikachu | if you have itunes i think it will block access to the ipod by default |
| 22:12:53 | * | ericmoritz\0 will shut up, he doesn't know what he's talking about... |
| 22:13:11 | m0ra | Is that so? So iäll haveto delete itunes? |
| 22:13:17 | m0ra | *ill |
| 22:13:17 | Doomed | m0ra |
| 22:13:18 | speacial_ed | ok... bootloader installed |
| 22:13:29 | m0ra | Doomed? |
| 22:13:30 | Doomed | u cant install rockbox? |
| 22:13:34 | m0ra | yup |
| 22:13:40 | Mikachu | m0ra: no, just set the ipod to disk mode in itunes |
| 22:13:43 | Doomed | u can boot into the ipod firmware tho right? |
| 22:13:50 | m0ra | yup |
| 22:13:58 | Mikachu | it's really a mode in itunes though |
| 22:14:07 | Doomed | do what Mikachu just said |
| 22:14:13 | Doomed | it should install after that |
| 22:14:28 | m0ra | Oh, ill try that, thanks for the advice yall! |
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| 22:14:54 | speacial_ed | Mikachu: I installed the rockbox bootloader and now it automatically goes to Rockbox, of course, but how do I get into IPL? |
| 22:15:07 | Doomed | ipl? |
| 22:15:16 | speacial_ed | ipod linux... |
| 22:15:18 | Romanos | press any button during boot once |
| 22:15:21 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: put the kernel on your fat partition, and call it linux.bin |
| 22:15:28 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: then hold down play right after the apple shows |
| 22:16:05 | Romanos | what's the linux file has to do? |
| 22:16:12 | Romanos | i used the nano installation |
| 22:16:34 | Romanos | should be an ipl installer for video definitely |
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| 22:18:38 | speacial_ed | Mikachu: Took me a few times to get it right (as it used to when I had only Rockbox and tried to get into retail OS) but I got it and it works nicely, thank you much |
| 22:18:47 | speacial_ed | And you have surpased Paul as my favorite helper |
| 22:18:51 | speacial_ed | :p |
| 22:18:55 | Mikachu | heh |
| 22:21:26 | speacial_ed | Uh O, looks like I spoke too soon, it booted linux but when I tried to run retail OS it started iPL loader.... |
| 22:21:42 | speacial_ed | Perhaps Im missing a file or something for retail OS |
| 22:21:43 | m0ra | Stuck again :x "ipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.bin" is not a regognized command |
| 22:21:55 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: maybe |
| 22:22:00 | m0ra | am i missing something again? |
| 22:22:25 | Mikachu | speacial_ed: did you run something that looked like this? |
| 22:22:30 | Mikachu | ipod_fw -g nano -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader/bootloader.bin |
| 22:22:49 | speacial_ed | I dont believe so... |
| 22:23:11 | speacial_ed | i dont have a nano though... |
| 22:23:42 | speacial_ed | wait I do think I did that one, just with video |
| 22:23:49 | speacial_ed | Ill try it again |
| 22:23:57 | Mikachu | can you paste your ipod_fw command? |
| 22:24:25 | speacial_ed | ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin |
| 22:24:33 | speacial_ed | that? |
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| 22:24:43 | Mikachu | hm well that should be including the apple os then |
| 22:25:09 | speacial_ed | I probably made some horrible mistake when installing iPL |
| 22:25:51 | speacial_ed | Any suggestions? |
| 22:26:11 | Romanos | i can help u out if u want special.. i've done it many times |
| 22:26:32 | speacial_ed | Im up for just about anything I guess, whats your idea Romanos? |
| 22:27:04 | Romanos | you'll just have to pm me.. there's eyes everywhere |
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| 22:27:12 | Romanos | bad eyes.. |
| 22:27:19 | speacial_ed | What do you mean? |
| 22:28:07 | Romanos | nevermind |
| 22:28:11 | m0ra | How the hell should a command starting "ipod_fw" do anything when executed from the commandprompt? There is no program running that recognizes it and it isn't part of the windows basic commands? I'm loosing it soon guys! |
| 22:28:25 | Mikachu | Romanos: i won't disturb you |
| 22:28:52 | speacial_ed | Mikachu: Do however tell me if what Im about to do would be bad, please. |
| 22:28:53 | m0ra | The helpdocument is driving me crazy, so many things untold, so many flaws :( |
| 22:29:42 | Mikachu | m0ra: ... you download the program from the install page |
| 22:29:57 | m0ra | what is the programs name? |
| 22:30:11 | m0ra | ipodpatcher.exe? |
| 22:30:16 | speacial_ed | ipod_fw? |
| 22:30:17 | m0ra | bootloader.bin? |
| 22:30:22 | Mikachu | or maybe it's in the rockbox zip |
| 22:30:29 | Mikachu | i don't know how you windows people do it |
| 22:30:46 | m0ra | the document said that download just 2 files, and that i did :P |
| 22:30:52 | linuxstb_ | It's all on the IpodInstallation wiki page... |
| 22:30:58 | speacial_ed | ipod_fw.exe is in the install page for ipod |
| 22:31:16 | speacial_ed | its right under the link to ipodpatcher.exe and bootloader |
| 22:31:18 | m0ra | have to seek it out then. |
| 22:31:34 | speacial_ed | You know, where it says "download required files" |
| 22:31:35 | m0ra | my mistake! |
| 22:31:38 | m0ra | damn |
| 22:31:51 | m0ra | im going blind or something |
| 22:31:55 | m0ra | there it is |
| 22:31:58 | speacial_ed | We all do it |
| 22:31:59 | m0ra | nicely on the list |
| 22:32:07 | Romanos | have u tried to just download the ipodlinux installer special? |
| 22:32:25 | Romanos | it really can't be simplier than that |
| 22:32:34 | speacial_ed | You mean the thing thats supposed to install iPL for you? |
| 22:32:37 | speacial_ed | Doesnt work for me. |
| 22:32:43 | Romanos | sure? |
| 22:32:47 | speacial_ed | 100% |
| 22:32:52 | speacial_ed | Tried it a few times |
| 22:33:02 | Romanos | have u watched the video? |
| 22:33:13 | Romanos | on how to install it manually? |
| 22:33:18 | speacial_ed | Yes |
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| 22:33:38 | Romanos | any lock with that? |
| 22:33:41 | Romanos | luck |
| 22:34:01 | speacial_ed | What do you mean? |
| 22:34:07 | speacial_ed | I have iPL already... |
| 22:34:22 | speacial_ed | It runs fine, its just that I cant boot into retail os |
| 22:34:36 | Romanos | . |
| 22:34:43 | Romanos | i think it's time to restore |
| 22:34:50 | speacial_ed | Nooooooooooooooo |
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| 22:35:09 | ericmoritz\0 | is there a easy way to clear the playlist? |
| 22:35:11 | speacial_ed | I dont wanna do all that again. |
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| 22:35:31 | speacial_ed | Im not very gifted with computers and it took me forever to install iPl |
| 22:35:50 | Romanos | r u sure that ipl installer doesn't works? |
| 22:36:12 | Romanos | dunno |
| 22:36:17 | speacial_ed | 100% |
| 22:36:26 | speacial_ed | Ill try and run it right now too |
| 22:37:30 | Romanos | download the latest version first |
| 22:38:02 | speacial_ed | will do |
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| 22:38:38 | Romanos | are u shure you are holding the correct buttons when booting? |
| 22:38:40 | Romanos | sure |
| 22:39:10 | speacial_ed | Yes 100% |
| 22:39:27 | speacial_ed | I can sometimes be stupid, but not that stupid |
| 22:39:54 | Romanos | it's not about stupidity , otherwise everyone would be stupid.. |
| 22:40:08 | speacial_ed | Hey I have an iPod_os_backup.fw... could I use that to help me someway? |
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| 22:40:42 | speacial_ed | "Error accessing filesystem." |
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| 22:42:23 | Romanos | have you try download that ipl installer yet? |
| 22:42:25 | speacial_ed | "I was unable to properly access the SysInfo file on your iPod; either it didnt exist, theres something wrong with your iPods filesystem, or [most likely] theres a bug in the installer |
| 22:42:35 | speacial_ed | " |
| 22:42:55 | Romanos | u should probably use the restore function mate |
| 22:43:14 | zgh | has anyone gotten rockbox to compile using gcc-4.0.3 -Os? |
| 22:43:14 | Romanos | i'm sure there's something wrong at the first place |
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| 22:43:31 | zgh | i am having linking problems |
| 22:43:34 | speacial_ed | And after that Ill have to reinstall iPL and such? |
| 22:43:46 | Romanos | yep.. that's the deal |
| 22:43:55 | Romanos | but backup everything |
| 22:44:01 | Romanos | from your fat part |
| 22:44:51 | linuxstb_ | zgh: Which target are you trying to build? |
| 22:44:58 | zgh | arm-elf ipod nano |
| 22:45:06 | zgh | on linux |
| 22:45:34 | speacial_ed | In the installer after I get the error it asks if I have a backup of my OS which I do, and if I want to restore it.... would doing that maybe fix the problem? |
| 22:45:44 | speacial_ed | And will it delete iPL too? |
| 22:46:08 | Romanos | maybe.. |
| 22:46:14 | Romanos | never tried it that way |
| 22:46:21 | Romanos | back up first!!! |
| 22:46:24 | speacial_ed | k |
| 22:46:26 | linuxstb_ | zgh: What's the linker error? |
| 22:47:34 | zgh | linuxstb_: when linking rockbox.elf: |
| 22:47:38 | zgh | linuxstb_: /home/zhobson/rockbox/rockbox-cvs/build/librockbox.a(thread.o): In function `sleep_thread': |
| 22:47:41 | zgh | thread.c:(.text.sleep_thread+0x10): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 against symbol `switch_thread' defined in .icode section in /home/zhobson/rockbox/rockbox-cvs/build/librockbox.a(thread.o) |
| 22:47:45 | zgh | sorry for the spam! |
| 22:48:20 | linuxstb_ | Have you changed any other GCCOPTS ? |
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| 22:48:31 | zgh | just -Os instead of -O |
| 22:49:05 | Mikachu | is that an error? |
| 22:49:20 | zgh | Mikachu: yes the link fails |
| 22:49:41 | Mikachu | this is a shot in the dark, but when i tried -Os i had to use -fno-optimize-sibling-calls too |
| 22:49:49 | Mikachu | i don't remember what the error was though |
| 22:49:53 | zgh | Mikachu: thx I will try that |
| 22:52:44 | zgh | Mikachu: it built! |
| 22:52:46 | zgh | thanks! |
| 22:53:01 | zgh | now to see if it'll explode! |
| 22:53:01 | Mikachu | heh |
| 22:53:08 | Mikachu | i had some bad luck with the jpeg plugin |
| 22:53:17 | m0ra | where can i download themes for rockbox? |
| 22:53:36 | m0ra | and brw, i got it to work, thanks for your help guys! |
| 22:53:40 | m0ra | *btw |
| 22:53:48 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 22:53:51 | Mikachu | http://rockbox-themes.redbreva.com/ |
| 22:54:05 | m0ra | cheers |
| 22:56:49 | BHSPitMonkey | I like arctic descent |
| 22:57:26 | BHSPitMonkey | http://rockbox-themes.redbreva.com/theme_320x240x16%5CPreview%5CArctic_Desert.jpg |
| 22:57:29 | BHSPitMonkey | *Desert |
| 22:57:32 | BHSPitMonkey | read it wrong... |
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| 22:58:20 | zgh | d'oh. |
| 22:58:22 | zgh | ipod-explody |
| 22:58:27 | zgh | oh well |
| 22:58:44 | Mikachu | Os is probably much slower too |
| 22:58:53 | zgh | it was a fun experiment |
| 22:59:20 | zgh | thanks for the help ipod panics are very exciting ^_^ |
| 22:59:46 | zgh | *screeeech! crackle crackle!* |
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| 23:01:02 | m0ra | how do i install themes :x |
| 23:01:12 | speacial_ed | I was just reading around the iPL page and apparently its loader2s fault my retail os wont boot how do i uninstall it? |
| 23:01:17 | BHSPitMonkey | m0ra: unzip them? |
| 23:01:19 | BHSPitMonkey | :o |
| 23:01:21 | m0ra | to the root? |
| 23:01:27 | speacial_ed | to .rockb |
| 23:01:29 | speacial_ed | x |
| 23:01:33 | speacial_ed | bleh i cant type |
| 23:01:36 | speacial_ed | to .rockbox |
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| 23:02:02 | BHSPitMonkey | speacial_ed: how's it loader2's fault? it's always worked. |
| 23:02:03 | m0ra | so if its a folder named "Ipod_nano" ill extract that folder to .rockbox? |
| 23:02:26 | BHSPitMonkey | speacial_ed: but all you'd need to do is install the rockbox loader now, in the normal way. |
| 23:02:36 | m0ra | or its content like "Themes" "Fonts" |
| 23:02:56 | speacial_ed | When Loader2 is installed, you can't boot into the apple firmware. Just letting you know. |
| 23:02:57 | speacial_ed | I've acknowledged that I know of this several times now. — Josh (talk) 16:00, 10 Apr 2006 |
| 23:03:03 | m0ra | well, ill figure it out −−> |
| 23:03:22 | speacial_ed | And I have the rockbox loader installed now and when I try to boot retail it runs loader2 |
| 23:04:00 | Mikachu | linuxstb_: http://pastebot.gentoo-se.ath.cx/26 |
| 23:04:14 | Mikachu | linuxstb_: +#ifdef probably |
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| 23:06:00 | speacial_ed | BHSPitMonkey: any ideas? |
| 23:06:37 | BHSPitMonkey | speacial_ed: maybe that's a recent bug, I dunno |
| 23:06:39 | BHSPitMonkey | I've used it though |
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| 23:07:00 | speacial_ed | I just want to get rid of loader2 and see if it works... |
| 23:07:08 | BHSPitMonkey | just do a restore |
| 23:07:10 | BHSPitMonkey | and start over. |
| 23:07:22 | speacial_ed | fine... |
| 23:07:35 | BHSPitMonkey | unless you know what you're doing... |
| 23:07:39 | BHSPitMonkey | (?) |
| 23:07:52 | speacial_ed | I know about somethings, I guess, but generally no |
| 23:08:27 | m0ra | ok, now how do i delet the music that i have uploaded to the player by itunes ? |
| 23:08:52 | m0ra | whats the folder called or the files or sumthing |
| 23:08:55 | speacial_ed | Put it in disk mode and go into itunes and delete it? |
| 23:09:11 | m0ra | k, if it works that way :P |
| 23:09:15 | speacial_ed | it does |
| 23:17:14 | Mikachu | linuxstb_: i played to level 4 three or four times now without crashing, and still stayed on 30.00 fps |
| 23:19:59 | Bagder | "Subject: [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH 3/11] Add Rockbox FAT filesystem driver with write support" |
| 23:20:24 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 23:24:20 | Mikachu | looking through the old mailing list archives? |
| 23:24:36 | Bagder | that's from U-Boot-Users |
| 23:24:41 | Bagder | as of today |
| 23:24:52 | Mikachu | ah, they borrowed your driver |
| 23:24:56 | Bagder | yeps |
| 23:26:09 | jeffelkins | Any word on FS #5264 — System Freeze: iPod Photo 60GB ? |
| 23:32:26 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:32:47 | * | amiconn now has a strong suspicion what goes wrong with arm-elf-gcc -mlong-calls, but without function sections.... |
| 23:34:14 | amiconn | I believe this is fixable with moderate effort |
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| 23:37:53 | speacial_ed | heh, the installer worked this time... thats good but it also makes me angry that i actually follow the tutorial the other time... at least I got some experience out of it... |
| 23:39:04 | speacial_ed | o geeze I lied it still wont load retail os and it doesnt show rockbox... |
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| 23:52:14 | amiconn | Yay! My theory is correct! |
| 23:52:59 | * | amiconn now has a rockbox.ipod for mini2g built with -mlong-calls, but _without_ -ffunction-sections |
| 23:53:06 | amiconn | Saves 11KB |
| 23:53:39 | Bagder | nice! |
| 23:54:11 | amiconn | Gcc goofs like I thought |
| 23:54:24 | | Quit akaidiot ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 23:54:52 | amiconn | The description for -mlong-calls says that gcc uses some heuristic to decide which functions can be called by a short call even with -mlong-calls enabled |
| 23:55:33 | amiconn | Calls to functions within a different sections use long calls, and calls to static functions use short calls |
| 23:56:07 | amiconn | The interesting thing is what happens with a static ICODE function: gcc chooses the wrong option and wants to make a short call... |
| 23:57:15 | amiconn | The hacky solution is to make all icode functions non-static. The only functions of this type are in ata.c (6 functions in total) |
| 23:57:52 | amiconn | The proper solution would be to fix gcc, arrrgh! |
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