| 00:00:05 | amiconn | ahahahahahaha |
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| 00:13:35 | hlj | hey |
| 00:13:45 | hlj | <hlj> yo |
| 00:13:45 | hlj | <hlj> i need some help |
| 00:13:45 | hlj | <hlj> i installed ipodlinux on my ipod last night |
| 00:13:45 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK hlj |
| 00:13:45 | hlj | <hlj> but i cant goto apple os |
| 00:13:45 | hlj | <hlj> all the other stuff works tho |
| 00:13:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 00:13:46 | hlj | <hlj> when i goto apple os it asked me for a language |
| 00:13:48 | hlj | <hlj> but it freezes |
| 00:13:50 | hlj | <hlj> cuz i cant select or scroll through them |
| 00:13:52 | hlj | <hlj> i have a black ipod nano 4gb |
| 00:13:54 | hlj | <hlj> any suggestions? |
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| 00:16:20 | speacial_ed | maybe not as helpful as id hoped :( |
| 00:16:39 | hlj | ;/ |
| 00:16:49 | hlj | scriptx u know much about ipods? |
| 00:16:51 | Bagder | this is #rockbox |
| 00:16:58 | linuxstb_ | The only advice I can give is to run the Apple Restorer and then install Rockbox. |
| 00:17:11 | Bagder | hlj: try #ipodlinux for ipodlinux issues |
| 00:17:18 | scriptx | Badger |
| 00:17:21 | scriptx | Someone told him to come here |
| 00:17:27 | Bagder | so? |
| 00:17:27 | scriptx | hlj: try asking people in the rockbox irc they are usually very helpful |
| 00:17:33 | scriptx | From #ipodlinux |
| 00:17:37 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 00:17:38 | speacial_ed | Badger: have you been to the iPL IRC? noone there talks |
| 00:17:47 | scriptx | ANd it's mostly for devs |
| 00:17:53 | Bagder | so then we should speak about everything in #rockbox ? |
| 00:18:01 | speacial_ed | Well if people here help yes |
| 00:18:04 | scriptx | Rockbox supports iPod |
| 00:18:05 | speacial_ed | If you dont want to then dont |
| 00:18:08 | hlj | wats the difference between ipod linux and rockbox? |
| 00:18:08 | Bagder | I beg to differ |
| 00:18:08 | scriptx | So why not talk about iPod |
| 00:18:12 | amiconn | I can only say that ipl worked for me exactly once. After trying to reboot it never started again. Got rid of it, and adapted rockbox |
| 00:18:23 | linuxstb_ | hlj: Almost everything. |
| 00:18:53 | hlj | which one has more features? |
| 00:18:54 | Bagder | scriptx: I said ipodlinux. We don't use it, we don't develop it so it makes no sense to do support for it here |
| 00:19:31 | speacial_ed | But if you do you can get alot of people who cant get iPL to work to switch ;) |
| 00:19:48 | Bagder | no, we do that by telling them how to use rockbox |
| 00:20:15 | Moos | amen :) |
| 00:20:28 | Bagder | I don't mind talking a little ipodlinux, but coming here exclusively for ipodlinux help is plain wrong |
| 00:20:31 | hlj | which has more features rockbox or ipodlinux? |
| 00:20:44 | Bagder | hlj: try them for yourself and see |
| 00:20:53 | hlj | why cant u just tell me |
| 00:21:00 | hlj | then i dont need to try both |
| 00:21:01 | Bagder | well this is #rockbox |
| 00:21:09 | Bagder | I bet you'll get a pro-Rockbox angle |
| 00:21:10 | goffa | hlj: for music id suggest Rockbox |
| 00:21:24 | goffa | but given that we are in #rockbox we are slanted towards it |
| 00:21:27 | speacial_ed | hlj: Its great for everything though |
| 00:21:29 | linuxstb_ | hlj: There are no ipodlinux experts here, so we don't know all the features. |
| 00:21:50 | linuxstb_ | Hence we can't answer your question. |
| 00:21:50 | speacial_ed | hlj: I have iPL and Rockbox and use rockbox most, and rarely if ever use retail os |
| 00:21:58 | hlj | well u dont need to be an expert just ur opinion is fine for me |
| 00:22:08 | hlj | im looking to play music and movies and games |
| 00:22:18 | hlj | load a snes emulator |
| 00:22:20 | hlj | etc |
| 00:22:34 | goffa | well... rockbox has no video support atm |
| 00:22:39 | goffa | nor snes emulation |
| 00:22:40 | linuxstb_ | Rockbox is better for music, and has some games. IPL has some other games, and video support. |
| 00:22:42 | goffa | has gameboy though |
| 00:22:57 | speacial_ed | But it doesnt work well... |
| 00:23:01 | speacial_ed | Yet! |
| 00:23:03 | scriptx | :stall: |
| 00:23:23 | goffa | yeah... i haven't tried the gameboy thing (on an x5 doubt its possible atm) |
| 00:23:25 | hlj | can i run a snes/n6r emu on ipl? |
| 00:23:37 | goffa | no idea |
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| 00:23:50 | linuxstb_ | I think someone has ported one, but from what I've read it's too slow to be usable. |
| 00:24:30 | goffa | yeah... snes would be tough on an ipod anyway from a useability standpoint (too many buttons, etc).. that'd be my guess anyway |
| 00:24:37 | goffa | maybe i'm on crack |
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| 00:24:48 | linuxstb_ | The forums at http://ipodlinux.org/forums are probably the best way to find out about all the applications which have been ported. |
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| 00:25:05 | scriptx | ipl forums suck |
| 00:25:10 | scriptx | fyi |
| 00:25:42 | goffa | i do have one ipl question... is it ipod specific? or have they ported to other devices |
| 00:25:54 | scriptx | iPod specific |
| 00:25:54 | Bagder | goffa: ipods only |
| 00:26:16 | goffa | thought so.. just wasn't sure |
| 00:26:25 | Bagder | scriptx: but then in the forums they tend to say the same thing about our community |
| 00:26:25 | goffa | so i guess that rules me out anyway |
| 00:26:28 | goffa | not that i'd switch |
| 00:26:36 | goffa | overall i'm happy with rb |
| 00:26:56 | goffa | and i don't mean the beef sandwitch store :) |
| 00:26:59 | scriptx | Say what? That Rockbox forums sucks? |
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| 00:27:20 | Bagder | not exactly with those words, but with that spirit |
| 00:27:46 | Bagder | people like to point fingers at other camps |
| 00:28:00 | Bagder | "we are the cool ones" "they suck" |
| 00:28:04 | scriptx | It's true |
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| 00:28:07 | scriptx | I've got like |
| 00:28:10 | scriptx | 5 threads |
| 00:28:12 | scriptx | all unanswered |
| 00:28:42 | Moos | Bagder: Psycholgie thing (TM) ;-) |
| 00:28:58 | Bagder | oh indeed |
| 00:29:02 | Moos | it's classical |
| 00:29:03 | Bagder | very common human thing |
| 00:29:08 | Moos | yeah |
| 00:29:15 | scriptx | Most of the people join just to post a few questions that have been answered 500 times |
| 00:29:41 | Moos | Bagder: about Human identity thing, and groups relations ship |
| 00:29:42 | hlj | omg |
| 00:29:49 | hlj | #ipodlinux is fuckin gay |
| 00:29:53 | hlj | nobody talks |
| 00:29:56 | hlj | its a dead channel |
| 00:29:59 | hlj | some help |
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| 00:30:08 | Bagder | now why is silent gay? |
| 00:30:18 | hlj | nobody responds |
| 00:30:45 | scriptx | It's geared more towards developers, hlj. |
| 00:30:51 | scriptx | Not for |
| 00:30:53 | goffa | ipodlinux refuses to come out |
| 00:30:54 | scriptx | I NEED HEP! |
| 00:30:54 | scriptx | OMG |
| 00:30:55 | goffa | :) |
| 00:30:55 | scriptx | HELP |
| 00:30:57 | scriptx | I FUXED MY IOPOD |
| 00:30:58 | scriptx | DOMG |
| 00:30:58 | scriptx | FGOMFGOM |
| 00:31:00 | scriptx | NEED HELP]' |
| 00:31:10 | scriptx | That's what the forums are fore |
| 00:31:12 | scriptx | for* |
| 00:31:27 | goffa | that sounds like what aol is for |
| 00:31:35 | scriptx | Hah |
| 00:31:51 | Moos | phew, here isn't like this ;P |
| 00:32:03 | scriptx | kbye |
| 00:32:03 | hlj | if i update my ipod firmware then will i still be able to load ipl or rockbox? |
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| 00:32:33 | linuxstb_ | You will have to reinstall a bootloader. |
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| 00:52:51 | amiconn | linuxstb: What do you think, do we want the hack for getting rid of -ffunction-sections? Boost-wise it makes no difference, but all binaries get smaller... |
| 00:54:25 | linuxstb_ | I think getting rid of -ffunction-sections will mean lostlogic's profiler parser will work on ARM. So that's another point in favour. |
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| 00:55:10 | sharpe | eh... |
| 00:57:48 | amiconn | linuxstb: It means making 6 functions in ata.c non-static (can be done for arm only, with a macro) |
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| 01:00:30 | amiconn | (or alternatively move these functions out of iram) |
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| 01:06:21 | amiconn | #define gcc_goof_more -O2 |
| 01:07:43 | linuxstb_ | So I assume that that change means that gcc is performing less long calls? |
| 01:07:50 | amiconn | yes |
| 01:09:36 | amiconn | It still doesn't link with -O2 though. Then it stumbles in thread.c, upon a function which isn't static |
| 01:10:47 | linuxstb_ | But the function is declared with ICODE_ATTR? |
| 01:11:38 | amiconn | yes |
| 01:11:59 | amiconn | I think this is the sibling call thing Mikachu figured out. Trying... |
| 01:14:04 | amiconn | ...it works |
| 01:14:37 | amiconn | ...and -O2 makes the binary smaller than just -O |
| 01:17:32 | linuxstb_ | Cool. Do you have any ideas about getting rid of the -mlong-calls completely?. |
| 01:17:48 | amiconn | mini2g rockbox.ipod: ~338K with cvs, ~327K without function sections, and ~322K with -O2 -fno-optimize-sibling-calls and without function sections |
| 01:18:15 | amiconn | We can't |
| 01:18:48 | amiconn | We can just minimise the number of long calls by making all functions static that should be static |
| 01:20:28 | amiconn | The gcc long-call logic is far from optimal. Setting a function attribute to long_call causes all calls to this function to be long calls |
| 01:21:18 | amiconn | The correct way would be to make inter-section calls long calls, and keep in-section calls short |
| 01:23:38 | amiconn | Ugh, the -O2 build causes a hard crash... |
| 01:23:58 | linuxstb_ | Ugh indeed. |
| 01:24:26 | amiconn | Stkov main when trying to play music, and ugly noises from the output... |
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| 01:25:17 | ericmoritz\0 | hi, I'm trying to create a backdrop, is there any special settings for the bmp |
| 01:25:29 | linuxstb_ | 24-bit and the exact size of your LCD. |
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| 01:26:28 | ga_miller | hello |
| 01:26:41 | ericmoritz\0 | hmm, that's what I have I think |
| 01:26:46 | mikearthur | linuxstb: is rockbox being sued? |
| 01:26:47 | ga_miller | can rockbox play video on my ipod photo? |
| 01:27:03 | linuxstb_ | mikearthur: No. |
| 01:27:07 | linuxstb_ | ga_miller: No. |
| 01:27:27 | ga_miller | It's not possible? |
| 01:27:31 | mikearthur | linuxstb: I heard that from some guy who works from Wolfson Microelectronics today, about some ROM you've included as a plugin or something |
| 01:28:05 | linuxstb_ | Is that the MAS code for PCM playback? |
| 01:29:38 | linuxstb_ | ga_miller: Some kind of video is possible, yes. But no-one is working on it. |
| 01:31:02 | mikearthur | linuxstb: so thats complete bull then? |
| 01:31:16 | linuxstb_ | You would have to be more specific. |
| 01:31:29 | linuxstb_ | But to my knowledge Rockbox doesn't have any code it shouldn't. |
| 01:31:47 | mikearthur | he wasn't much more specific |
| 01:31:56 | mikearthur | just that is was a game plugin, and he heard you were getting sued |
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| 01:32:08 | mikearthur | however, its perfectly possible he could have it confused with iPodLinux or something |
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| 01:32:30 | Moos | maybe they spoken abou jewels? |
| 01:32:36 | Moos | about even |
| 01:32:37 | linuxstb_ | That's possible the Jewels plugin. We had an exchange of emails about that with the company behind Bejewelled. |
| 01:32:45 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:32:45 | * | amiconn was just about to ask that |
| 01:33:08 | Moos | are we have some news? |
| 01:33:10 | mikearthur | that could well be what he was talking about |
| 01:33:22 | mikearthur | apologies, I just wanted to get it from the horses mouse, so to speak |
| 01:33:25 | linuxstb_ | The graphics in Jewels look similar to the graphics in Bejewelled. |
| 01:33:27 | mikearthur | aye |
| 01:33:40 | Moos | but not the same ;) |
| 01:33:49 | mikearthur | is the iPod AC97 chip working alright for you? |
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| 01:34:03 | Moos | we don't have to change anything if we want imho |
| 01:35:44 | linuxstb_ | mikearthur: "AC97" ? |
| 01:36:10 | Moos | and what's about ATA&T btw? (more serious) |
| 01:36:17 | mikearthur | sorry, the iPod codec chip |
| 01:36:21 | mikearthur | its been a long day |
| 01:36:28 | Moos | *AT&T |
| 01:36:47 | linuxstb_ | Yep, no problems. I'm planning on starting to add recording support. |
| 01:36:53 | mikearthur | cool |
| 01:37:09 | mikearthur | just because the guy who writes the drivers for the chip is a big OSS head |
| 01:37:15 | mikearthur | if you wanted to talk to him |
| 01:39:14 | linuxstb_ | I don't have any specific questions - the datasheets are clear enough. But I would be happy to hear any comments he has on our code. |
| 01:39:42 | mikearthur | ok cool |
| 01:39:57 | mikearthur | I talk to him about it if I get the job :D |
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| 01:46:35 | Mikachu | linuxstb_: did you see the thing earlier? |
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| 01:50:23 | linuxstb_ | Mikachu: Yes. I've no idea if boosting and unboosting 30 times a second is a good idea though... |
| 01:50:39 | Mikachu | linuxstb_: yeah that was sort of my question |
| 01:50:57 | amiconn | It's probably not. |
| 01:50:58 | Mikachu | also it won't unboost if it's behind |
| 01:51:20 | amiconn | Each boost and unboost looses a few milliseconds due to the pll relock |
| 01:51:39 | amiconn | Mikachu: Btw, why would you want that? |
| 01:52:01 | Mikachu | the idea would be to save a little power |
| 01:52:26 | amiconn | Where? |
| 01:52:49 | Mikachu | when limiting the framerate in pacbox |
| 01:52:58 | amiconn | ahj |
| 01:53:05 | * | amiconn never tried pacbox |
| 01:53:14 | Mikachu | i've never got past level 4 |
| 01:53:18 | amiconn | Lack of rom, and lack of interest |
| 01:53:28 | linuxstb_ | I'm hoping to add sound to pacbox at some point, so that will probably use up those spare cycles. |
| 01:53:44 | Mikachu | i did make the unboost unconditional at first by accident |
| 01:53:48 | Mikachu | then i only got 25 fps |
| 01:53:58 | Mikachu | so it doesn't unboost every frame |
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| 01:54:15 | linuxstb_ | What framerate do you get if you remove that loop completely? |
| 01:54:28 | Mikachu | i'll chcek |
| 01:56:38 | Mikachu | hrm, i got 30.3 heh |
| 01:56:44 | Mikachu | but i know i've gotten higher before |
| 01:57:13 | Mikachu | maybe i commented out a line too many |
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| 01:58:37 | Mikachu | nope, still 30.3 |
| 01:58:45 | Mikachu | i guess in that case there's not much point |
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| 02:00:09 | linuxstb_ | Nope. But there is a lot of room for optimisation - the screen rendering function needs to be rewritten in assembler. I've only done that for the 5g, and someone else did a H300 version. |
| 02:00:37 | Mikachu | hm, when i set FPS to 20, i get 24 |
| 02:01:32 | Mikachu | how does that happen? |
| 02:03:18 | Mikachu | hm yeah, you still do the full emulation for every pacman frame so lowering the displayed framerate doesn't change as much as you think |
| 02:03:20 | linuxstb_ | I guess that means that not displaying 10 frames means the CPU can be emulated 20% faster. |
| 02:04:08 | linuxstb_ | Yes, the framerate just means how many of Pacman's 60fps are displayed each second. So it's just the LCD rendering code that's skipped. |
| 02:04:22 | Mikachu | couldn't you skip the hardware blitting code too? |
| 02:04:25 | Mikachu | that wouldn't affect game state |
| 02:04:31 | Mikachu | i mean the emulated hardware |
| 02:04:41 | Mikachu | or maybe you do |
| 02:05:22 | linuxstb_ | There isn't any. The only emulated hardware is the CPU, RAM and I/O ports (for the buttons and coin slots) |
| 02:06:08 | Mikachu | for some reason i thought renderBackground/Sprites was done every frame, and only blit_display skipped, but that would be stupid |
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| 02:45:40 | * | dongs is on level 38 in bubbles. |
| 02:46:58 | Mikachu | i think i'm on 24 or so |
| 02:47:30 | Mikachu | but i've finished brickmania |
| 02:48:05 | dongs | ah. controls are too sluggish in that. |
| 02:48:08 | yobesoom | sounds like you guys are having as productive a workday as I am |
| 02:48:14 | Mikachu | i changed them :) |
| 02:48:23 | dongs | to what |
| 02:48:30 | Mikachu | absolute mapping between the wheel and the playfield |
| 02:48:44 | dongs | hm |
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| 02:48:58 | dongs | so you can insta-jump to a place? |
| 02:49:08 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 02:49:10 | dongs | neat. |
| 02:49:12 | dongs | wehre's the patch :D |
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| 02:49:22 | Mikachu | but it's sort of impossible to go to the exact right place without sliding there |
| 02:49:34 | Mikachu | at least on the nano wheel |
| 02:49:37 | Mikachu | dongs: on the tracker |
| 02:53:36 | dongs | so it is |
| 02:53:48 | dongs | is the link at the top updated or should I use the 'v4' from bottom of the page? |
| 02:53:59 | Mikachu | you would want the latest one |
| 02:54:06 | Mikachu | and the one for brickmania |
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| 02:54:28 | Mikachu | heh, that was maybe not so helpful, the one at the bottom is the latest |
| 02:54:59 | dongs | so, i need both? the wheel-absolute patch and brickmania patch? |
| 02:55:13 | Mikachu | yes |
| 02:56:39 | dongs | lol so failed |
| 02:57:04 | dongs | too lazy to see why |
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| 03:09:55 | ericmoritz\0 | Mikachu, where are you/ |
| 03:09:59 | Mikachu | i'm here |
| 03:10:03 | Mikachu | dongs: which of them failed? |
| 03:10:10 | ericmoritz\0 | no, where in the world are you |
| 03:10:52 | Mikachu | maybe we could make a carmen san diego type game of this |
| 03:11:36 | Mikachu | you could also /whois me |
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| 03:17:25 | ericmoritz\0 | heh, I made a wps for my wife's nano: http://eric.themoritzfamily.com/upload/nano_cc.png |
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| 03:20:31 | dongs | Mikachu: the brick patch failed, it doesnt look that hard to fix but im to lazy. |
| 03:20:36 | dongs | wheel patch succeeded with some offsets. |
| 03:20:39 | Mikachu | okay |
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| 03:32:18 | dongs | lol @ colors |
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| 03:47:51 | ericmoritz\0 | there we go: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Chanel_Nano |
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| 04:11:08 | eLMafUDd | hey |
| 04:11:20 | eLMafUDd | could anybody help me...? |
| 04:11:28 | eLMafUDd | i cant install rockbox on my ipod video |
| 04:11:44 | eLMafUDd | i did everthing the guide says, and when i reboot it... it just comes up with the apple firmware |
| 04:11:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then you didn't do everything right. |
| 04:11:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does it show the Rockbox bootloader, or straight into apple? |
| 04:12:05 | eLMafUDd | i have the files .rockbox and rockbox.ipod |
| 04:12:12 | eLMafUDd | straight into apple |
| 04:12:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I didn't ask about those. |
| 04:12:26 | eLMafUDd | i know |
| 04:12:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | You screwed up either one of the ipod_fw steps, or the last ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin step |
| 04:12:52 | eLMafUDd | ok ill retry the tut |
| 04:12:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'd suggest starting over that process, and making absolutely sure you get them right. |
| 04:13:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Odds are you just didn't do the -w to write back the rockboot.bin, but it's a bit unpredictable |
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| 04:25:03 | dongs | you are now bricking: your $400 ipo |
| 04:25:03 | dongs | d |
| 04:27:34 | Mikachu | you can't brick them without actively trying |
| 04:27:41 | dongs | true. |
| 04:27:50 | sharpe | hitting it with a brick seems to work efficiently. |
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| 04:33:14 | BHSPitLappy | where's that theme gallery at? |
| 04:33:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | In the wiki, where it's always been? |
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| 04:36:27 | eLMafUDd | ... |
| 04:36:40 | eLMafUDd | man, extracting the rockbox files takes a while |
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| 04:56:41 | BigMike04 | hey |
| 04:56:52 | BigMike04 | i have ipl installed on my ipod |
| 04:56:59 | BigMike04 | and i heard that rockbox is way better |
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| 04:57:09 | BigMike04 | now, can someone show me some screenshots? |
| 04:57:33 | BigMike04 | and also tell me why rockbox is better than linuix? |
| 04:57:49 | Mikachu | rockbox.org |
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| 04:59:58 | BigMike04 | i have 4g colour 20gb |
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| 05:00:03 | BigMike04 | will rockbox work on that? |
| 05:00:38 | BigMike04 | nvm it will |
| 05:00:44 | BigMike04 | im on the site checkin out everything |
| 05:02:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox isn't better than Linux. |
| 05:02:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, all we can do is playback music gaplessly with an available full parametric equalizer, crossfade, crossfeed, and replaygain. |
| 05:03:23 | BigMike04 | ic ic |
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| 05:08:47 | scottder | Ok i updated o CVS this morning...hearing clicking sound when i change volume on my nano now |
| 05:10:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Faint, easiest to hear when playback is paused and the volume is high? |
| 05:10:54 | scottder | I don't hear it when paused |
| 05:11:14 | scottder | but more noticable at high volumes.... |
| 05:11:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Alright |
| 05:11:21 | scottder | and not dependant of format |
| 05:11:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | It shouldn't be. I've heard it in the retail OS myself |
| 05:12:23 | scottder | drat I don't have any music on the Apple OS side. |
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| 05:14:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't *think* it's Rockbox-specific is all. It may still be fixable |
| 05:16:23 | scottder | Just cropped up tonight...I'll tinker more tomorrow |
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| 05:16:51 | qwm | midkay_ |
| 05:16:54 | qwm | are you awake? |
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| 05:23:30 | sharpe | wheeeeeee!!! |
| 05:23:44 | Mikachu | what happen? |
| 05:24:30 | sharpe | actually, nothing. in fact, things have been worse than they were. |
| 05:24:52 | Mikachu | cool |
| 05:25:35 | sharpe | i have to write at least a four page paper by monday, and i have to work out a presentation by tuesday, which probably won't be presented for a week or so. |
| 05:28:22 | dj-fu | lol, join the club |
| 05:28:30 | dj-fu | i have a security paper on windoze 2k3 to write for monday |
| 05:28:35 | dj-fu | haven't even started |
| 05:28:44 | dj-fu | and it's going to be hard to lie through the whole thing and pretend it's actually secure |
| 05:29:00 | scottder | Seucrity and Windoze 2k3....*giggle* |
| 05:29:01 | scottder | :) |
| 05:30:27 | dj-fu | lol :\ |
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| 05:33:01 | sharpe | heh... |
| 05:33:08 | BHSPitLappy | "[BHSPitLappy] where's that theme gallery at? [Paul_The_Nerd] In the wiki, where it's always been?" |
| 05:33:12 | sharpe | i'm also becoming more and more sick... |
| 05:33:15 | BHSPitLappy | sorry, I meant the one that was linked in here earlier. |
| 05:33:20 | BHSPitLappy | it's off-site |
| 05:36:21 | sharpe | i don't want to sleep... |
| 05:36:42 | BHSPitLappy | found it... http://rockbox-themes.redbreva.com/ |
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| 05:52:26 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wonders how you "Increase Stereo" |
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| 05:53:30 | scottder | grow more ears? :) |
| 05:53:40 | Mikachu | stereo width > 100%? |
| 05:53:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, he seems to be pretty sure he means *more* stereo somehow |
| 05:56:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | And to "improve sound" |
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| 05:57:29 | Mikachu | i'm sure there are some tricks that work more or less well depending on the music |
| 05:57:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well yeah. Like crossfeed. |
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| 05:58:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | But saying that "Rockbox should offer sound improvement" is a kinda vague feature request. ;-) |
| 05:58:34 | Mikachu | ah, heh indeed |
| 05:58:37 | BHSPitLappy | as in |
| 05:59:03 | BHSPitLappy | it catches you listening to "My Humps" and it switches to Beethoven for you |
| 05:59:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | See, now *that* is a plugin I could get behind. |
| 05:59:20 | BHSPitLappy | hehe |
| 05:59:22 | BHSPitLappy | :) |
| 05:59:54 | Mikachu | i think i might have heard a part of that song once |
| 05:59:56 | BHSPitLappy | discretionbox |
| 05:59:57 | Mikachu | is it really annoying? |
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| 06:00:03 | BHSPitLappy | mmhmm |
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| 06:09:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, what is it that we have if it's not "Bass boosting?" |
| 06:10:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is there a difference between "boosting" and simply "increasing"? |
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| 06:15:59 | firecat53 | Hey...anyone here able to help out with an ipod mini 1G install? It's freezing randomly and often w/ today's build. |
| 06:17:14 | BHSPitLappy | "Definition |
| 06:17:14 | BHSPitLappy | Circuitry that boosts the bass response of the amplifier, improving audio reproduction, especially when using inexpensive headphones." |
| 06:17:55 | Mikachu | the definition of bass boosting being bass boosting doesn't help a lot |
| 06:18:04 | BHSPitLappy | hehe |
| 06:18:18 | BHSPitLappy | Synonyms * Low Frequency Gain Boost |
| 06:18:29 | BHSPitLappy | think that's pretty blunt |
| 06:20:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | firecat53: If you've gotten it to the point where it's running but freezing every now and then, it's just bugs. AAC/MP4 files? |
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| 06:27:09 | TEFL0N | I think I am about the ten-millionth person to query, but... how does one go about applying a patch? |
| 06:27:29 | dj-fu | patch -pX < file.patch |
| 06:27:38 | dj-fu | depending on where you are in the to-be-patched file structure |
| 06:28:59 | TEFL0N | Tried it... I get no result... |
| 06:29:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | "error messages" are not the same as "no result." |
| 06:30:08 | TEFL0N | I do not even get an error message. |
| 06:30:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | So it says nothing at all? |
| 06:30:51 | TEFL0N | Yeah... I am going about this all wrong... |
| 06:31:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | You type patch -p0 < blah.patch at the prompt, and it says *nothing*? |
| 06:31:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nothing happens at all? |
| 06:31:32 | TEFL0N | In the CMD, right? |
| 06:31:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | No. |
| 06:32:35 | TEFL0N | I'm on Rockbox's twiki under SimpleGuideToCompiling#Adding_Patches |
| 06:32:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Patching requires compiling. Compiling requires setting up one of the various development environments (cygwin, VMware). You need to run patch from in one of those |
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| 06:33:21 | TEFL0N | Oh OK... it's still in progress of downloading. |
| 06:33:23 | firecat53 | Paul_the_Nerd: I wouldn't call it usable...it works....rarely. Takes multiple reboots to get past the logo screen. Won't play more than a minute of any songs (mp3 & ogg). |
| 06:33:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | See, the interesting thing about the SimpleGuideToCompiling is that it tells you things in generally the order you should do them. |
| 06:33:52 | Mikachu | are 1G minis supported? |
| 06:34:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | They were supposed to be |
| 06:35:43 | firecat53 | There's a build specifically for the 1G minis..... |
| 06:37:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 06:37:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because it's supposed to be supported |
| 06:38:04 | Mikachu | i was jsut not sure |
| 06:38:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | But the 1G Mini build is our youngest, and most likely buggy still. |
| 06:38:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | You could help out by figuring out how to track down some causes, maybe. |
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| 06:39:50 | firecat53 | I'm willing to try....can't say I'm a programmer, but I can follow directions..... |
| 06:40:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, this isn't really a follow directions thing. That's why there was that 'Figuring out how' part of it. ;-) |
| 06:40:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though it's possible this is just part of the rash of iPod bugs that seems to be in CVS right now. |
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| 06:42:07 | firecat53 | I think my 'figuring out' days are in the past for the most part........five children later........but I'll keep checking back! |
| 06:42:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
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| 07:00:50 | sharpe | wooo |
| 07:01:07 | sharpe | g'night everyone. |
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| 07:06:06 | hardeep | lostlogic: around? |
| 07:06:28 | lostlogic | hardeep: 12 seconds from hitting the hay, what's up? |
| 07:07:01 | hardeep | lostlogic: get some rest, it can wait till tomorrow =) |
| 07:07:10 | lostlogic | hehe, ok, see ya in 7-9 hours :) |
| 07:07:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | You've made him curious now. |
| 07:07:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm betting he's back here in 20, 30 minutes. |
| 07:07:33 | lostlogic | Paul_The_Nerd: and you'll hafta tell me about this rash you've developed (of ipod bugs) tomorrow too. |
| 07:07:41 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:08:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | lostlogic: Just lots of people seem to be reporting issues booting. It's not a playback issue as far as I can tell. |
| 07:08:20 | lostlogic | fun. |
| 07:08:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 07:08:28 | * | lostlogic doesn't upgrade |
| 07:08:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 07:09:17 | Presence | ipod 5g with 20060429 and its FLAWLESS with booting, usb speeds, playback, and off/on/resume. |
| 07:09:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Presence: Unfortunately 29-04-06 was a whopping 5 or 6 days ago. :-P |
| 07:09:56 | Presence | i gno. I'm too chickenbutt to update. :) |
| 07:10:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 07:10:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just backup the previous build I had on there before using an uncertain one on my primaryu |
| 07:10:39 | TEFL0N | This still is not working. |
| 07:11:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | TEFL0N: That statement was surprisingly lacking in "What actually happens instead of working" |
| 07:11:39 | TEFL0N | I enter the code then it resets with no result. |
| 07:12:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | What are you trying to do again? I thought you were patching. |
| 07:12:45 | TEFL0N | I am... I am trying to patch album_art_v4.03.patch |
| 07:12:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | And which development environment are you using? |
| 07:13:11 | TEFL0N | cygwin |
| 07:13:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | And cygwin's working right? You've done a test compile and that succeeded? |
| 07:14:03 | TEFL0N | Yes. |
| 07:14:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, when you run patch in cygwin, what resets? |
| 07:15:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | And what "code" are you entering? |
| 07:15:17 | TEFL0N | Not reset, per se... I just get a new command line and nothing being patched. |
| 07:15:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | And you're patching in cygwin? |
| 07:15:56 | TEFL0N | Yes. |
| 07:16:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | What happens if you do patch −−help |
| 07:17:42 | TEFL0N | No result. It will only repsond to help |
| 07:17:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | ? |
| 07:18:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | What do you mean? |
| 07:19:02 | TEFL0N | When I type patch −−help, it just reverts back to the command line. |
| 07:19:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then what did you mean by "It will only respond to help" |
| 07:19:46 | TEFL0N | Well, when I type help, it gives a list of commands... sorta like the cmd prompt. |
| 07:19:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just help alone? |
| 07:20:04 | TEFL0N | Yes. |
| 07:20:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | I didn't say to do that. |
| 07:20:24 | TEFL0N | I know... but when I tried patch −−help, there was no response. |
| 07:20:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, and you shouldn't just told me that. If you keep telling me things that happen when you do other things, it just makes it all more confusing. Especially when I don't know you're doing the other things. |
| 07:20:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | What color is the cygwin command prompt? |
| 07:21:07 | TEFL0N | Green. |
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| 07:21:39 | Mikachu | TEFL0N: what happens if you type which patch |
| 07:21:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Bah, that's right where I was about to go. :-P |
| 07:22:06 | Mikachu | <- frag stealing |
| 07:22:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm betting it's patch.exe in C:\Windows\, or something like that. ;-) |
| 07:23:10 | TEFL0N | Mikachu: /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/patch |
| 07:23:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, it's not using the right patch in cygwin then. |
| 07:23:21 | Mikachu | awesome |
| 07:23:36 | Mikachu | TEFL0N: use /usr/bin/patch instead of patch |
| 07:23:37 | Mikachu | probably |
| 07:25:18 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: what does /windows/patch.exe do? |
| 07:25:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: I haven't a bloody clue. I didn't even know *I* had one until a few moments ago. |
| 07:25:49 | Mikachu | heh, okay |
| 07:27:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's from Trend Micro |
| 07:27:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | At least, mine is. |
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| 07:31:02 | TEFL0N | Mikachu: Instead of which patch? |
| 07:31:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | TEFL0N: He means type "/usr/bin/patch -p0 < blah.patch" instead of the other way |
| 07:31:43 | Mikachu | yay linux, now i have to reboot to access my ipod |
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| 07:32:20 | TEFL0N | Oh, I tried that. bash: /usr/bin/patch: No such file or directory |
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| 07:32:42 | Mikachu | maybe you simply didn't install patch when you installed cygwin, in which case you failed to follow the instructions |
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| 07:34:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | TEFL0N: Have windows do a Find Files on patch.exe |
| 07:38:58 | jnc | couldn't be sensible and just use a dang ubuntu box, no |
| 07:39:03 | jnc | you had to go and use windows |
| 07:39:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I would've recommended VMWare |
| 07:40:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cygwin is a tricky beast. |
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| 07:46:33 | Mikachu | can't trust those redhat people |
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| 07:58:25 | BHSPitLappy | hi |
| 07:58:34 | BHSPitLappy | how can I resolve the dilemma of having white-on-white text |
| 07:58:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | By not doing it? |
| 07:58:56 | BHSPitLappy | too late. |
| 07:59:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then reset your settings. |
| 07:59:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Am I missing something here? |
| 07:59:11 | BHSPitLappy | that would be the inquiry, yes |
| 07:59:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Turn off ipod |
| 07:59:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Turn on ipod |
| 07:59:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Before bootloader finishes, flip hold switch |
| 07:59:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Make sure Hold is ON by the time Rockbox loads |
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| 08:00:21 | BHSPitLappy | thanks |
| 08:04:05 | TEFL0N | OK... I have retrieved the patch.exe file. |
| 08:04:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nobody said to retrieve any files... |
| 08:05:06 | TEFL0N | I know... I missed it during the download/install process though. |
| 08:05:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 08:06:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | It should work now then. |
| 08:06:55 | TEFL0N | True... I am just searching for the right version. |
| 08:10:06 | TEFL0N | I keep getting "rejected." |
| 08:10:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Try a different server? |
| 08:11:34 | TEFL0N | No... the hunks keep failing. |
| 08:13:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, well you didn't say you were on to actually *patching* it now. |
| 08:13:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Failed hunks mean you have to do things by hand. The patch is out of date. |
| 08:13:30 | TEFL0N | Yes, yes.... my mistake. |
| 08:14:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | It generates files showing you the rejected hunks, you can then compare those with the original file and edit it manually |
| 08:15:22 | TEFL0N | What must I use to edit? |
| 08:15:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Any text editor. |
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| 08:19:25 | BHSPitLappy | RedBreva: I recognize that name |
| 08:19:39 | RedBreva | Mornin? |
| 08:19:51 | BHSPitLappy | mornin |
| 08:19:59 | BHSPitLappy | oh, I'm apparently on a site hosted by you |
| 08:19:59 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 08:20:04 | BHSPitLappy | that would be it |
| 08:20:12 | RedBreva | hehehe - Welcome |
| 08:20:45 | RedBreva | I am just updating the Nano Themes ATM... |
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| 09:27:12 | pokecapn | hey i have a quick question: what version of id3v2 is supported in rockbox for the h1xx? I was using foobar 0.9 to retag my files since it's way faster than 0.8.3, only to find out that it bonered my date tags. Does rockbox only support 2.3 or has 2.4 been added sometime in the last month? |
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| 09:32:54 | Galois | I see ID3_VER_2_4 in the source code, so I would expect 2.4 |
| 09:33:59 | Galois | but I personally have not used anything other than 2.3, on the infinitesimally rare occasions that I use mp3 with rockbox |
| 09:34:31 | pokecapn | hmm ok |
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| 10:19:42 | * | amiconn really wonders what Linus' commit should fix |
| 10:20:12 | midkay | possibly that one bug? |
| 10:20:24 | amiconn | Imean, this exact issue was fixed by petur on 3 May |
| 10:20:35 | midkay | i think it actually worsened the problem.. |
| 10:20:44 | midkay | according to some tracker item i read. probably that patch. |
| 10:21:20 | amiconn | The only difference is that petur's fix doesn't clamp the value to zero but let it become negative in some cases |
| 10:21:50 | amiconn | That doesn't hurt though, because lcd_fillrect() catches this anyway and returns immediately |
| 10:21:54 | * | midkay shrugs and points to the tracker number Linus provided |
| 10:37:31 | * | amiconn added these remarks to the tracker task |
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| 12:35:28 | linuxstb | amiconn: Am I right in thinking that the voice string (NULL -> -1) change you made in viewer.c should also be made in jpeg.c, doom/rockdoom.c and pacbox/pacbox.c ? |
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| 12:40:52 | linuxstb | amiconn: Just read your mailing list post - that's good to know that a patch existed before Apple's first patent application. |
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| 13:04:12 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes. The second value of struct opt_items is not a pointer, it's a voice clip id. These ids count from zero, -1 means no clip |
| 13:05:18 | linuxstb | What do you think about having a #define for "no clip", rather than just using -1 ? I think that would be more readable. |
| 13:05:53 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes, the patch for talkbox existed before that. Also, the *idea* of voicing menus was brought up then, check the talkbox ml thread from May 2003 |
| 13:06:59 | linuxstb | So the idea for voice clips for filenames came before voice clips for menu items? |
| 13:07:07 | amiconn | yes |
| 13:07:48 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0235.shtml |
| 13:07:50 | linuxstb | Also, do the scripts for generating voice clips for files use the tags? |
| 13:08:02 | linuxstb | Or is it just filenames? |
| 13:08:56 | amiconn | And at the same day, the idea of voiced menus http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0236.shtml |
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| 13:09:45 | amiconn | The current scripts use the filename only. The original idea was recording the voice clips yourself, either on the pc or on target |
| 13:11:38 | linuxstb | Yes, but reading that thread, the idea of server-side generation of clips use voice synthesis was mentioned after about 4 posts... |
| 13:12:57 | linuxstb | In a way, it's probably good that Rockbox uses filenames - that means we are not doing the same as Apple's patent (which I think just uses tags). |
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| 13:16:38 | LinusN | amiconn: there? |
| 13:16:49 | amiconn | yup |
| 13:17:22 | LinusN | did you read the comments in the bug report? |
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| 13:18:59 | LinusN | and you still wonder? |
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| 13:20:04 | amiconn | Hmm, you didn't refer to this 2nd report... |
| 13:21:13 | amiconn | ...but my comment concerning the negative value being ignored isn't correct either, as it's not passed verbatim |
| 13:21:50 | amiconn | Btw, it's horizontal scrolling, not vertical |
| 13:21:56 | LinusN | silly me |
| 13:22:06 | amiconn | There's still a problem with the inverse bar (scrolled or not) and arabic. markun knows about it |
| 13:22:30 | LinusN | amiconn: no, i didn't refer to the bug report from the patch, but i did refer the other way |
| 13:22:57 | markun | amiconn: I looked at it before the weekend. It's a little less trivial than I had hoped. |
| 13:23:10 | amiconn | You only mentioned 5182 in your commit, and 5182 doesn't reference 5267 |
| 13:23:18 | amiconn | So how should I see the connection? |
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| 13:23:26 | markun | Our arabic joiner expects unicode in an array of floats, not UTF-8 |
| 13:23:36 | amiconn | huh? |
| 13:23:50 | amiconn | floats??? |
| 13:23:50 | markun | shorts, not floats :) |
| 13:24:26 | amiconn | So how does it work in lcd_puts*() then? |
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| 13:27:10 | markun | amiconn: I think we convert the array back to UTF-8 at the end of the bidi code |
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| 13:29:33 | dongs | cant you just rewrite bidi code to use utf8 to begin wiht? |
| 13:29:36 | dongs | to save double conversion? |
| 13:29:42 | dongs | if its jsut tables it shouldnt be that hard should it? |
| 13:30:14 | dongs | speaking of unicode, is there a method to localize plugins? |
| 13:30:20 | amiconn | utf8 is variable length |
| 13:30:38 | amiconn | The bidi code converts utf8->utf16 |
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| 13:31:22 | dongs | fun |
| 13:31:24 | amiconn | I think font_get_width could just use the bidi code |
| 13:31:56 | amiconn | I mean font_getstringsize(() |
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| 13:33:08 | dongs | so is there some method to localize plugins? my friends dont like reading english menus in games |
| 13:33:17 | amiconn | No, not yet |
| 13:34:40 | dongs | maybe stealing something like gettext but less bloated is a good idea. |
| 13:35:23 | amiconn | We do have a localisation mechanism. It's planned to extend it for use in plugins, but it's not yet done |
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| 13:38:23 | amiconn | markun: Do I miss something, or does our display code not handle unicode chars outside the base multilingual plane? |
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| 13:41:55 | markun | using shorts limits it to only the first 65536 chars |
| 13:43:21 | amiconn | (not that I would expect fonts which support such chars in rockbox anytime soon) |
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| 13:48:18 | jacktorrance | for those about to rock: FIRE |
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| 13:53:29 | RedBreva | My Nano needa a reboot after disconecting from PC to get it working again... is this known issue? (can't see any relevant reports on Bug tracker) |
| 13:53:38 | RedBreva | needa = needs |
| 13:53:52 | jacktorrance | let there be rock |
| 13:54:34 | Genre9mp3 | let there be rockbox! :) |
| 13:54:45 | dongs | RedBreva: do you see a "dead battery" icon in grayscale for ashort time befeore screen blanks out? |
| 13:54:57 | RedBreva | yes |
| 13:55:09 | linuxstb | RedBreva: Yes, that seems to be an Apple bug - the disk mode is nothing to do with Rockbox. |
| 13:55:25 | dongs | known thing. |
| 13:55:37 | RedBreva | OK, cool... |
| 13:55:53 | dongs | linuxstb: yes, but its probably due to rockbox not properly initializing power related stuff. |
| 13:56:02 | dongs | because I doubt this would happen in apple firmware mode. |
| 13:56:33 | linuxstb | No - Rockbox resets the ipod and the Apple firmware in flash initialises the hardware and enters disk mode. |
| 13:57:21 | amiconn | markun: There's another way to solve the bar issue in the browser etc, without having to change font_getstringsize(), but that won't fix other places which rely on getstringsize |
| 13:57:48 | jacktorrance | g-string |
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| 14:02:53 | dongs | better fix it right the first time |
| 14:03:09 | markun | Genre9mp3: do you feel like adapting your WPS to 240x320? (Gigabeat's res) |
| 14:04:05 | amiconn | My idea might still be desirable in addition to fixing font_getstringsize() |
| 14:04:30 | jacktorrance | Did you know that there is a subtle difference between thongs and g-strings? |
| 14:05:08 | Genre9mp3 | markun: Is rockbox ported to Gigabeat? |
| 14:05:11 | dongs | did you know that nobody in this channel probably saw either one? |
| 14:05:18 | dongs | Genre9mp3: i think so |
| 14:05:38 | amiconn | The idea is to let the (internal) function lcd_putsxyofs() return its end-column. Then lcd_puts_style() & friends can use that for positioning the trailing rectangle. It avoids double calculcation. |
| 14:06:09 | markun | Genre9mp3: We're working on it |
| 14:06:28 | Genre9mp3 | Well, my try is to make a wps for all targets, so yes, I could make one for Gigabeat also... |
| 14:06:46 | jacktorrance | All science other than string theory is garbage |
| 14:07:00 | amiconn | I think the gigabeat lcd has a weird format... a portrait display on a dap... |
| 14:07:07 | Genre9mp3 | But isn't this resolution the resolution of iPod5g? |
| 14:07:20 | markun | Genre9mp3: yes, but rotated |
| 14:07:21 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: Same resolution, different orientation |
| 14:07:28 | Genre9mp3 | oh...I see... |
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| 14:08:01 | Genre9mp3 | BTW, I added the wps to the patchtracker: |
| 14:08:06 | Genre9mp3 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5297 |
| 14:08:25 | amiconn | linuxstb: doom etc could also profit from another change I did in viewer.c - the cleaner option setting |
| 14:08:36 | markun | It gets my vote as the new default rockbox WPS |
| 14:08:37 | Genre9mp3 | and amiconn you were right about the iPod Mini.... |
| 14:08:51 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: I have one... |
| 14:09:03 | Genre9mp3 | markun: sweet! |
| 14:09:06 | amiconn | ...and I made rockbox run on the mini2g |
| 14:09:18 | Genre9mp3 | I never doubt on you.... |
| 14:10:00 | Genre9mp3 | but, seriously, on an old sim I got blury the 24bit bmps |
| 14:10:18 | Genre9mp3 | but I compiled a new one and everything was fine |
| 14:10:25 | Genre9mp3 | I updated the mini wps |
| 14:10:37 | amiconn | Unicatcher is iCatcher with unifont? |
| 14:10:42 | Genre9mp3 | yes |
| 14:10:56 | dongs | where do i get unicatchier |
| 14:11:01 | dongs | is it in the zip? |
| 14:11:11 | Genre9mp3 | They are all in the iCatcher.zip file |
| 14:11:16 | Genre9mp3 | yes |
| 14:12:04 | * | dongs gets unicatcher and replaces with my font |
| 14:12:07 | markun | dongs: how's your huhufont tool doing? Still working on it or is it pretty much finished? |
| 14:12:35 | qwx | omfg, robert de niro receives an actual explicit handjob in a deleted scene from the film "1900" from 1976. |
| 14:12:40 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: Do you intend to adapt it to the X5 remote as well? |
| 14:12:45 | dongs | markun: i rafb'd you last code I had, it works as far as Im concerned, if it needs to support more unicode ranges its just ADD_RANGE(blah) |
| 14:12:52 | amiconn | (not yet supported, but surely will be) |
| 14:13:01 | Genre9mp3 | Yes of course...why not... |
| 14:13:10 | amiconn | 128x96, 4-gray |
| 14:13:22 | Genre9mp3 | Oh...nice lcd for remote |
| 14:14:20 | dongs | heh copying this itacthcer thing will take a few minutes |
| 14:14:23 | dongs | i better just copy the shit iwant |
| 14:14:29 | dongs | 12 minutes to copy 500k of files |
| 14:15:23 | amiconn | ? |
| 14:15:37 | dongs | copying tiny files to usb drive is slow unless you disable caching |
| 14:15:47 | dongs | er enable write caching |
| 14:15:48 | Genre9mp3 | Should I work on Gigabeat and X5 remote screens now, or wait 'till they get supported? |
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| 14:16:51 | dongs | but then if write caching is on you cant just pull it without "disconnect" first. |
| 14:21:31 | amiconn | Nano? |
| 14:21:41 | dongs | any usb device heh |
| 14:21:47 | dongs | might be slower than usual on nano i guess. |
| 14:21:49 | dongs | but i didnt notice. |
| 14:22:08 | amiconn | For harddisks it's not slow here even without write caching |
| 14:22:09 | RedBreva | nano is APPALINGLY slow at data transfer |
| 14:22:16 | markun | Genre9mp3: work on it only if you want to |
| 14:22:23 | dongs | RedBreva: windows? |
| 14:22:28 | RedBreva | yep! |
| 14:22:29 | amiconn | For flash mem I would meanhwile strongly recommend to enable write caching |
| 14:22:49 | amiconn | Not doing this will put a lot of strain on the flash area that stores the fat |
| 14:23:19 | amiconn | The drawback is of course that you have to safely remove the drive |
| 14:23:29 | Genre9mp3 | markun: I only own an H340 and I wanted my wps to be for all targets, so yes... I want it for Gigabeat, too |
| 14:23:40 | RedBreva | My thumb drive is LOADs quicker... |
| 14:23:47 | dongs | RedBreva: hes right |
| 14:23:51 | dongs | turning on write cache helps. |
| 14:24:02 | RedBreva | amiconn: Good point, well made.. will do |
| 14:24:11 | dongs | i just copied entire icatcher wps dir in a second |
| 14:24:13 | amiconn | I noticed the difference with my ondio. Windows (write caching disabled by default) takes several minutes to unzip a rockbox build to it. |
| 14:24:19 | dongs | vs 13 minutes it would take with write cache off. |
| 14:24:24 | amiconn | Linux took something like 30 seconds |
| 14:24:31 | amiconn | (including the unmount) |
| 14:24:39 | chang | how do you turn writing cache on windows ? |
| 14:25:12 | dongs | thats because in linux, if oyu pull a usb device without dropping to command line and typing several lines of cryptic shit, it'll at best cause a oops or at worst a hard lockup, or invalidate your scsi subsystem until you reboot. |
| 14:25:27 | amiconn | ?? |
| 14:25:34 | dongs | chang: start->run->devmgmt.msc, goto drives, double click ipod drive, and goto policies tab, set optimize for performance, click ok. |
| 14:25:43 | amiconn | I just unmount via the gnome context menu, that's all |
| 14:25:49 | dongs | lol, right. |
| 14:25:51 | chang | dongs : thanks |
| 14:25:56 | dongs | but go ahead and pull a mounted usb device out of lunix. |
| 14:26:02 | dongs | and see if youre still on irc. |
| 14:26:08 | dongs | where as windows handles it gracefully. |
| 14:26:27 | amiconn | I don't irc from linux, but I did what you say. Numerous times, by accident |
| 14:26:34 | Galois | you're misrepresenting the situation |
| 14:26:51 | RedBreva | dongs: RMC on drive letter, properties, Hardware tab, Apple ipod USB Device, Properties, Policies |
| 14:26:53 | Galois | I've pulled USB without umounting many times, with nothing as dire as you preduct |
| 14:26:58 | Galois | predict |
| 14:26:58 | amiconn | Nothing bad happened to linux, but of course I had to check the volume |
| 14:27:13 | dongs | Galois: ok, thats total bullshit. |
| 14:27:25 | dongs | linux scsi / usb trash does not support surprise removal wahtsoever. |
| 14:27:33 | lostlogic | *yawn* |
| 14:27:35 | amiconn | dongs: Huh? |
| 14:27:38 | dongs | it results in either scsi subsystem trashing itself, usb subsystem trashing itself, or whole system trashing itself. |
| 14:27:44 | amiconn | I have to agree with Galois |
| 14:27:44 | Galois | it does not support it, but it doesn't fucking crash hard lock |
| 14:28:01 | Galois | I think you're jumping the gun on this one |
| 14:28:01 | dongs | sure it does |
| 14:28:12 | Galois | repeat after me, your own experience does not represent everyone's experience |
| 14:28:12 | dongs | last time i bothered to try linux it did exactly that. |
| 14:28:24 | Galois | and I've used linux a slight bit more than you |
| 14:28:42 | Galois | I fully agree that what you describe can happen, and that there are systems where it always happens |
| 14:28:52 | dongs | really now, well, lemme tell you something |
| 14:28:59 | dongs | there are no systems when somethign liek that happens if you run Windows XP. |
| 14:29:04 | amiconn | debian testing here, and no such problems, both in a vm and on my amd64 |
| 14:29:13 | dongs | lol, amd64. |
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| 14:29:20 | Galois | again, false. You're spouting nonsense based on limited experience. |
| 14:29:35 | Galois | I work for Microsoft, okay? I know windows xp. |
| 14:29:36 | amiconn | dongs: Sure there are. Windows XP sometimes has problems with USB2.0 and hubs |
| 14:29:38 | dongs | Galois: "i've run windows xp a slight bit more than you" to quote yourself. |
| 14:29:44 | Galois | haha |
| 14:29:58 | Galois | I have the damn source code and you don't |
| 14:30:08 | dongs | oh wow, and i know kung-fu and 30 other scary words. |
| 14:30:33 | chang | he guys, this is rockbox chan |
| 14:30:38 | dongs | indeed. |
| 14:30:46 | dongs | i was jsut typign that this discussion isnt going anywhere. |
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| 14:31:04 | Galois | it never had anywhere to go. |
| 14:31:51 | chang | btw, i'd got a weird thing yesterday |
| 14:32:09 | chang | my iriver H120 just freeze, anyway i reset it |
| 14:32:24 | chang | but when reseting, it sounds very bad |
| 14:33:01 | chang | it really hurts ears if you're listening to high |
| 14:33:07 | chang | (too) |
| 14:34:01 | chang | and when restarting, it launchs iRiver native firmware |
| 14:34:10 | ashridah | chang: as in you got a burst of static when you reset it? |
| 14:34:43 | chang | ashridah : like when you unplug a mic or something like that |
| 14:35:02 | chang | ashridah : like a 10 Hz sound |
| 14:35:20 | dongs | 10khz maybe? |
| 14:35:23 | dongs | i dont think you'd hear 10hz |
| 14:35:36 | chang | very bass sound |
| 14:35:38 | dongs | hm |
| 14:36:00 | dongs | maybe thats like 50hz or whatever your electricity system is running at. |
| 14:36:26 | chang | yeah, french fu*king electricity system |
| 14:37:23 | chang | i'll investigate it anyway |
| 14:37:26 | obo | chang: a sharp click/pop sound? |
| 14:37:44 | chang | obo: more like a tiny explosion |
| 14:37:54 | chang | obo : yeah a pop or plop sound |
| 14:38:55 | obo | heh - during a normal shutdown/reboot rockbox cleanly stops the hw codec device - when it freezes it obviously can't do that |
| 14:40:13 | chang | i don't remember this sound in the early dev on iriver, where i was reseting like a mad guy |
| 14:40:22 | chang | (when) |
| 14:41:15 | chang | anyway, fault is mine, i shouldn't listen Iron Maiden at max volume |
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| 14:58:44 | PaulJam | hmm, trying to edit a .wps file with the builtin text editor was propably not a good idea. it does really strange things to the file. |
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| 15:01:03 | Genre9mp3 | PaulJam: genrally, isn't such a good idea, you can easily get confused with the text editor due to its limited functionality |
| 15:02:57 | Genre9mp3 | It's not possible yet to build a Gigabeat simulator, right? |
| 15:03:47 | PaulJam | yes, but it did things that i didn't expext, e.g. it removes empty lines, inserts a linefeed after 128 characters and it inserted stuff from the start of the file to the end. |
| 15:03:56 | amiconn | The text editor has some serious bugs |
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| 15:08:22 | PaulJam | amiconn: should i make a bugreport? |
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| 15:12:52 | RedBreva | I'm confused with the %pb tag.. is it %pb|height|left|right| in pixels? I tried %pb|12|12|164| and it appears at the bottom of the screen!! |
| 15:13:54 | Genre9mp3 | RedBreva: progress bar is line based like text |
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| 15:14:35 | RedBreva | Ahhh... I had assumed that pixels given meant it was pixel based !! Doh!! |
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| 15:15:20 | Genre9mp3 | |height| is for it's thickness not where it will placed |
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| 15:16:25 | RedBreva | Thanks... :D |
| 15:17:15 | RedBreva | so can i run a pb *under* some displayed text? I suspect not :( |
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| 15:21:11 | Genre9mp3 | Redbreva: why not? |
| 15:22:29 | RedBreva | what syntax would you use for that... I tried %pb|13|12|164| %pe of %pt and just got crap on the screen... |
| 15:23:00 | Genre9mp3 | well, %pb sholu be alone in a single line |
| 15:23:05 | Genre9mp3 | should |
| 15:23:41 | RedBreva | so can I put some text on the same line, either over or at the end of the pb? |
| 15:23:44 | PaulJam | i think this would only be possible with static text |
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| 15:25:07 | Genre9mp3 | RedBreva: If you want the pb under a text, place the %pb in the next line |
| 15:26:01 | dongs | lol unifont is so damn ugly |
| 15:26:06 | PaulJam | Genre9mp3: i think he wants the text to be shown on top of the progress bar |
| 15:26:18 | RedBreva | no, I want the %pc/%pt to 'overlay' the PB |
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| 15:26:33 | Genre9mp3 | Oh....then I think you cannot do this |
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| 15:27:41 | RedBreva | the PB is good for a 'quick glance' but I want the actual time of the track on the same line :( It could be 50% of 2 mins or 50% of 15 mins... |
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| 15:30:06 | bluey | this new album of the red hot chili peppers really rules :) |
| 15:32:08 | dongs | Genre9mp3: unifont is 14px high? |
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| 15:32:56 | dongs | (too lazy to check) |
| 15:36:16 | Genre9mp3 | dongs: I think it's 16 |
| 15:36:33 | Genre9mp3 | not sure though... |
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| 15:38:37 | dongs | well |
| 15:38:53 | dongs | you should know since you adjusted unicatcher wps lines to fit, right? |
| 15:39:07 | Genre9mp3 | :) |
| 15:39:20 | Genre9mp3 | well, I just tested the results... |
| 15:39:37 | Genre9mp3 | what I see from the screendumps is 16 |
| 15:39:41 | dongs | k |
| 15:40:41 | dongs | Warning: DWIDTH spec > max FONTBOUNDINGBOX |
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| 15:40:47 | dongs | would be nice if it told what char it failed at |
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| 15:47:50 | dongs | there |
| 15:48:08 | dongs | now owrks good |
| 15:49:04 | markun | Genre9mp3: it was possible to build the gigabeat sim, but it might be broken right now. Will fix it after the weekend. |
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| 15:51:20 | dongs | http://pbx.mine.nu/dump1.png & http://pbx.mine.nu/dump2.png loosk good |
| 15:51:26 | steveb | does anyone have any idea how i would go about removing a corrupted directory on my iriver? when i try rm after mounting it i get an I/O error |
| 15:51:59 | dongs | gotta see why 'g' is cut off |
| 15:52:02 | ashridah | steveb: use a disk checker on it, like fsck.vfat or chkdsk ? |
| 15:52:12 | steveb | oh that might work |
| 15:52:33 | XavierGr | Genre9mp3's WPS sure rocks |
| 15:52:56 | XavierGr | I agree with markun, it gets my vote for a default WPS. :P |
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| 16:03:03 | chang | where can we vite fir default WPS ? |
| 16:03:22 | chang | (vote for ?) |
| 16:03:23 | dongs | i dont think you can jsut yet |
| 16:03:51 | nobelium- | funny...JPEG viewer crashed rockbox when loading a BMP file |
| 16:03:56 | dongs | huhuhuhu |
| 16:05:07 | dongs | fuk. |
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| 16:08:27 | * | ericmoritz\0 wonders if anyone uses the uisimulator as a media player on their desktop |
| 16:08:55 | steveb | mpd all the way |
| 16:09:23 | steveb | surly using uisimulator would just be a bit... weird |
| 16:10:20 | ericmoritz\0 | I was using it yesturday, it wasn't that bad |
| 16:10:52 | mikearthur | at least it'll do gapless |
| 16:10:59 | mikearthur | which no music players on Linux do properly |
| 16:13:03 | dongs | rorf. |
| 16:13:12 | dongs | media on lunix |
| 16:13:14 | dongs | who are you kidding |
| 16:13:38 | ericmoritz\0 | now if I can just hack it to use the touch pad on my laptop to work like the scroll wheel on the iPod |
| 16:14:32 | dongs | req: icatcher with a 12pt font |
| 16:14:33 | dongs | :( |
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| 17:25:27 | XavierGr | God I hate BSODs |
| 17:25:54 | Mikachu | you can change the color |
| 17:26:03 | XavierGr | really? |
| 17:26:16 | Mikachu | well, you could in 9x anyway |
| 17:26:28 | * | XavierGr googles |
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| 17:27:16 | XavierGr | found it hehe |
| 17:27:25 | XavierGr | now I will never see a BSOD again |
| 17:28:53 | Presence | evar! |
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| 17:38:31 | markun | mikearthur: bmp plays gapless for me (only tried ogg vorbis) http://beep-media-player.org |
| 17:39:01 | mikearthur | markun: nice |
| 17:39:30 | Mikachu | audacious is newer than bmp |
| 17:39:52 | Mikachu | ie, bmp is discontinued and audacious is a fork of it |
| 17:39:59 | Mikachu | http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page |
| 17:43:05 | markun | Mikachu: does it also playback without gaps? |
| 17:43:15 | Mikachu | it has the crossfade plugin |
| 17:43:19 | markun | so? |
| 17:43:41 | markun | I'll try it when I get home |
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| 17:45:59 | bluey | bmp is discontinued because the Dev's switched to bmpx |
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| 18:01:43 | bluey | http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=44275&st=0 <- finally a good aac encoder |
| 18:03:15 | thegeek | I thought the nero stuff were lisence incompatible? |
| 18:03:23 | thegeek | *license |
| 18:03:33 | thegeek | *was |
| 18:03:36 | thegeek | ;) |
| 18:04:03 | Mikachu | closed source |
| 18:04:05 | bluey | no clue about the license but the topic is written as "Free" |
| 18:05:35 | thegeek | I seem to remember some nero code that was "open source" but we could not use it |
| 18:08:51 | bluey | well it seems they haven't changed the license but they will release a closed linux encoder |
| 18:09:01 | bluey | cli-encoder |
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| 18:17:14 | nayr | hello |
| 18:19:33 | * | amiconn wonders whether he'll ever be able to rip cds on linux |
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| 18:20:23 | Mikachu | amiconn: why wouldn't you be? it's a lot simpler than in windows |
| 18:20:27 | RaeNye | Hya |
| 18:20:53 | amiconn | Mikachu: In theory, perhaps |
| 18:20:56 | sharpe | title... does, "The Plague and Pestilence" sound good? |
| 18:21:13 | Mikachu | i think typing "abcde" is easy enough |
| 18:21:18 | amiconn | On windows I use EAC. I would like something similar on linux. SOmeone recommended grip |
| 18:21:36 | sharpe | er... pestilence should just work too. |
| 18:21:43 | amiconn | ...but I can't install it on my debian-amd64 because of a broken dependency |
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| 18:21:51 | Mikachu | ah, debian |
| 18:21:57 | amiconn | I even reported the bug, but...nothing |
| 18:22:27 | Mikachu | i've never used debian on my own computer |
| 18:22:43 | Mikachu | but i know i don't like binary deps |
| 18:22:50 | amiconn | On debian-x86 the problem is fixed, but not on amd64 |
| 18:23:49 | RaeNye | Bagder: are you alive? |
| 18:24:36 | obo | amiconn: it's installed okay here - amd64, using sid - I can't remember if I had to jump through any hoops to get it on |
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| 18:25:54 | amiconn | sid beingwhat? |
| 18:26:06 | Mikachu | debian sid |
| 18:26:11 | * | amiconn never remembers the strange codenames |
| 18:26:22 | amiconn | I'm running testing. |
| 18:26:23 | obo | sid = unstable |
| 18:26:39 | Mikachu | ah so you're complaining about linux in general, based on running debian testing |
| 18:26:43 | obo | or rather unstable is always named sid |
| 18:28:08 | amiconn | I don't complain about linux in general, I complain about my ability or inability to rip, on my system |
| 18:28:41 | amiconn | This dependency problem seems to be around for months |
| 18:29:05 | amiconn | Dependency problems also was what made me move away from unstable, towards testing |
| 18:29:37 | * | RaeNye snaps his finger |
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| 18:29:56 | nayr | grr |
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| 18:30:07 | nayr | why must rockbox use FAT32? |
| 18:30:23 | nayr | why can't it use a sane filesystem, like ext2? |
| 18:30:28 | amiconn | ? |
| 18:30:40 | Davide-NYC | preglow? |
| 18:30:51 | Davide-NYC | Need any testing? |
| 18:30:55 | sharpe | since when do filesystems have sentience? |
| 18:30:58 | amiconn | Rockbox uses fat32 because it's a simple filesystem, and is supported by virtually all operating systems |
| 18:31:08 | Davide-NYC | fat32 = cross platform |
| 18:31:12 | Davide-NYC | (basically) |
| 18:31:53 | amiconn | cross platform, simple (=needs little resources, which is a concern on a mobile device) |
| 18:32:08 | amiconn | Some targets even require fat32 in order to boot |
| 18:32:09 | _Veseliq_ | damn, i wish that Rockbox supported MSI Mega View > http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/ia/ia/pro_ia_detail.php?UID=616 |
| 18:33:03 | _Veseliq_ | its firmware sux like hell |
| 18:33:06 | nayr | hmph |
| 18:33:24 | nayr | Fat32 is the fs from somwhere around the stonage... |
| 18:33:29 | nayr | no file permissions... |
| 18:33:34 | nayr | stone age |
| 18:33:55 | amiconn | Why would you need file permissions on a mobile device???? |
| 18:34:24 | sharpe | heheheh... |
| 18:34:27 | _Veseliq_ | linux cant write to ntfs with no probs and ext2/3 are not directly supported by win |
| 18:34:41 | _Veseliq_ | there is lots of logic using fat32... |
| 18:34:43 | nayr | because win sucks... |
| 18:34:49 | amiconn | _Veseliq_: Add MacOS and others to the mix... |
| 18:34:49 | _Veseliq_ | win sucks |
| 18:34:51 | _Veseliq_ | but... |
| 18:34:58 | _Veseliq_ | amiconn, never ever used mac |
| 18:35:03 | nayr | none of which have to do with FAT32 |
| 18:35:13 | _Veseliq_ | linux on my pc, used to be a win user |
| 18:35:24 | amiconn | Me neither (at least nothing ppc, only a very little experience with macos 7) |
| 18:35:27 | _Veseliq_ | fat32 is the only solution to this point |
| 18:35:31 | nayr | linux is fine |
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| 18:35:56 | nayr | I only wish win would dump ms-dos, and join the modern worl |
| 18:35:58 | nayr | world* |
| 18:36:04 | amiconn | But I do access my rockboxes from amigaos from time to time |
| 18:36:10 | nayr | also, the registry wouldn't be a bad thing to kill either :) |
| 18:36:22 | amiconn | The registry is basically a good idea |
| 18:36:57 | amiconn | That it isn't always used as intended is another story |
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| 18:38:24 | amiconn | I use windows, linux and amigaos. Each of them has its pros and cons, I wouldn't say one of them 'sucks' |
| 18:39:03 | * | Mikachu is listening to Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie - Every OS Sucks (0:01 / 4:45) |
| 18:40:33 | nayr | "12:34 < amiconn> The registry is basically a good idea" |
| 18:40:35 | * | nayr snorts |
| 18:41:01 | sharpe | oh boy... |
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| 18:44:49 | nobelium- | is anyone considering porting rockbox to sony players^? |
| 18:45:04 | nobelium- | they are so full of DRM one can not even copy files decently :) |
| 18:45:38 | XavierGr | then noone should by those players |
| 18:45:55 | nobelium- | i agree..and I don't own one =) |
| 18:46:06 | nobelium- | my h340 is all I could ask for |
| 18:46:40 | nobelium- | just wondering..since I have a friend who loves rockbox but owns a sony |
| 18:49:31 | amiconn | Mikachu: Hahahaha. |
| 18:49:33 | * | amiconn just checked out that song |
| 18:49:43 | Mikachu | :) |
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| 19:29:14 | hardeep | lostlogic: new bug reported on wiki page −− stopping after pausing a track hangs the device |
| 19:32:42 | sharpe | we should have a program that monitors the bug reports and announces here when it's reported. |
| 19:32:48 | sharpe | er, new ones. |
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| 19:33:46 | hardeep | you can receive the mailing list notifications |
| 19:34:04 | sharpe | i know |
| 19:34:31 | sharpe | it was just a somewhat interesting idea. |
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| 19:42:10 | sharpe | you know, those webpages that are seemingly generated for a certain collection of key words, are kind of funny. |
| 19:42:53 | sharpe | like this one. http://www.ev0ila.com/endemic-plague.html "MonsterLocal.com has your ENDEMIC PLAGUE" |
| 19:42:55 | lostlogic | that's stupid. |
| 19:43:25 | sharpe | "Shop for Endemic Plague" |
| 19:43:59 | sharpe | "The latest endemic plague tools right here" |
| 19:44:17 | sharpe | "we have one of the best endemic plague one-stop-shop sites on the web - visit us today." |
| 19:44:25 | sharpe | it just makes me laugh sometimes... |
| 19:45:36 | sharpe | so much for finding information on the plague. |
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| 20:07:42 | ender` | sharpe: too bad somebody just made money by you clicking to that link |
| 20:09:24 | sharpe | oh well. |
| 20:10:01 | Ribs | I'm sure he'll get over it :> |
| 20:10:15 | * | Ribs would like to make another statement, tho he has already made many to the same affect: |
| 20:10:22 | Ribs | ROCKBOX IS THE L33T! |
| 20:10:30 | Ribs | Thank you. |
| 20:11:44 | sharpe | hmm... should i italicize Yersinia pestis in my paper? |
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| 20:13:36 | hardeep | lostlogic: a little more info for that problem. it looks like we're getting stuck inside the loop in pcmbuf_flush_fillpos() called by pcmbuf_write_complete() which we can't get out of until playback is resumed |
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| 20:22:09 | sharpe | boredom... |
| 20:27:45 | amiconn | hardeep: Maybe this is the same problem causing the freeze on quick play-stop? |
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| 20:28:59 | hardeep | amiconn: hmmm, dunno, let me check |
| 20:29:36 | hardeep | btw, h300 sim with insight on cygwin is incredibly useful for investigating these issues |
| 20:30:17 | amiconn | What's insight? |
| 20:30:28 | hardeep | visual debugger |
| 20:30:40 | amiconn | aha |
| 20:30:49 | hardeep | not as good as visual studio but still decent |
| 20:31:14 | amiconn | Visual studio is a bit too integrated for my taste |
| 20:31:28 | amiconn | (says amiconn, who usually prefers gui over commandline) |
| 20:31:46 | hardeep | i only use the debugger, and i haven't found anything better on windows or linux |
| 20:31:58 | dpro | hmmm ... does cvs have any problems lately ? |
| 20:32:13 | hardeep | dpro: was working for me around 30m ago |
| 20:32:48 | dpro | hardeep: ah ok , I'm just trying to update but it seems to hang .. I'll see |
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| 20:34:02 | XavierGr | lostlogic are you here? |
| 20:34:30 | dpro | ah here we go |
| 20:35:26 | hardeep | amiconn: i can't reproduce the quick play-stop issue... do I need to do something more then playing a track and immediately stopping? |
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| 20:38:07 | amiconn | hardeep: Not that I know of. I got that freeze only once (but then I usually don' start-stop in quick succession) |
| 20:39:26 | hardeep | only problem i'm seeing is that it forgets the directory it was in and exits back to root |
| 20:39:50 | hardeep | (probably related to follow playlist being on) |
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| 21:23:22 | * | dpro goes to dj with rockbox :) |
| 21:23:28 | * | dpro like now |
| 21:23:35 | dpro | l8r |
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| 21:55:31 | Nebb | hey - any news on the rockboy nano port? |
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| 21:56:44 | marc_in_lux | good evening |
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| 21:57:45 | Nebb | anyone? |
| 21:58:34 | marc_in_lux | part of my nano's space is reserved for podcasts. Is there a way to create playlists with items sorted by date? |
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| 22:37:06 | lostlogic | hardeep: ah, I can definitely look into that... tomorrow I'm dedicating to rockbox... |
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| 22:51:58 | _Veseliq_ | http://modreactor.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=29 |
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| 22:53:35 | Hansmaulwurf | sweet bunnys ;) |
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| 22:54:50 | _Veseliq_ | I was at my grands house in the mountain (: |
| 22:55:09 | _Veseliq_ | havent been there for 2 years and made some pics |
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| 23:07:12 | sharpe | i think tomorrow will be my day of entertainment. |
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| 23:09:09 | muesli- | does somebody use google mail? |
| 23:09:33 | bluey^awy | i do |
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| 23:09:56 | sharpe | i do |
| 23:09:56 | muesli- | how do i upload files? didnt see any button :o |
| 23:10:23 | sharpe | for an attachment? |
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| 23:10:46 | muesli- | no..just to dump some files there |
| 23:10:56 | muesli- | dont want to attach 400mb |
| 23:11:00 | sharpe | send an email to yourself |
| 23:11:06 | sharpe | :) |
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| 23:11:32 | muesli- | so thats the only possibilty? |
| 23:11:35 | sharpe | yeh |
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| 23:11:47 | sharpe | do you use windows or linux? |
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| 23:12:18 | muesli- | cos theres a firefox extension that enables file uploads. it says transfer 100% ok but dont find the files. windows |
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| 23:13:23 | sharpe | you could use a (shell?) extension called "gmail drive" ... i think... but, it will handle everything to have your gmail account act as a drive. |
| 23:13:48 | muesli- | its called gspace |
| 23:13:51 | sharpe | i haven't used it in a long time... |
| 23:13:53 | muesli- | looks like a ftp client |
| 23:14:10 | sharpe | gmail drive shell extension, http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm |
| 23:14:29 | BHSPitLappy2 | that's wicked interesting... |
| 23:14:59 | Rincewind | does anybody know if it is possible to replace a broken line-out plug in the h120? |
| 23:15:12 | sharpe | unbreak it? |
| 23:15:46 | sharpe | woo, on page four of my paper... |
| 23:15:52 | Rincewind | i mean, the plastic of the plug is broken inside |
| 23:16:04 | sharpe | ah... |
| 23:16:17 | sharpe | buy a new rca jack and solder it on? |
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| 23:16:32 | sharpe | where did jack come from... |
| 23:17:04 | Rincewind | what do you mean? |
| 23:17:17 | muesli- | sharpe ive already uploaded some files before. but how do i access on the googles website??? |
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| 23:17:40 | sharpe | are you using that firefox extension, or the gmail drive? |
| 23:17:48 | muesli- | gmail drive |
| 23:18:06 | BHSPitLappy | it puts them in your inbox, right? |
| 23:18:16 | sharpe | if i remember correctly... |
| 23:18:36 | sharpe | Rincewind: erm, you're probably going to have to replace the little plastic thing... |
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| 23:19:04 | muesli- | sharpe nope |
| 23:19:13 | RedBreva | shouldn't "line selector: pointer/bar" be in a saved .cfg file? |
| 23:19:42 | sharpe | muesli-: is there a label for gmailfs ? |
| 23:19:47 | Rincewind | i know, i was asking if it is possible to solder an new (or not new) plug on or if solder pads are hidden behind the display or something |
| 23:19:55 | sharpe | oh. |
| 23:20:06 | sharpe | well, i'm not the one to ask about that. :D |
| 23:20:29 | Rincewind | k, i think i post it on misticriver sometime |
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| 23:21:02 | Rincewind | right now i don't want to open my player anyway. This has to wait until i need a new battery |
| 23:21:36 | Rincewind | advice for anyone: don't give your player to drunk people :( |
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| 23:21:51 | RedBreva | and should the sims actually save some data in the config file, if you ask it to write one? |
| 23:22:07 | scottder | interesting...with EQ on on my ipod...i hear clicking when I change volume |
| 23:22:19 | stevenm | Hey guys. How would I test if a file exists on the hard drive? I am currently looking if rb->open() returns -1, but this does not seem to work |
| 23:22:25 | scottder | nothing when I am in apple firmware, and very little when I shut off eq |
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| 23:22:57 | sharpe | stevenm: try if it returns anything less than zero... |
| 23:23:12 | stevenm | sharpe, alright, thanks |
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| 23:23:16 | sharpe | welcome |
| 23:23:44 | | Part webguest23 |
| 23:23:45 | sharpe | why are the spam emails i recieve, becoming more poetic and incoherent? |
| 23:24:24 | Rincewind | another question: how is file acces with the VMWaredevelopment platform supposed to work? |
| 23:24:37 | sharpe | i don't think there's any way a translator could translate, that bad... |
| 23:26:14 | sharpe | latest spam : "fly force make how? mentioned young servants night shining again. light promised different thats somewhere yours, least reading raise make. explain taught corner teach window rich? how love am explain thats slow. thats off shining studied." |
| 23:26:57 | Rincewind | you don't get much spam right? because you have time to read it... |
| 23:27:07 | sharpe | yep. |
| 23:28:22 | bluey^awy | has anyone ever made RMAA Benchmarks of the IPOD 5g with rockbox? |
| 23:28:54 | bluey^awy | afaik RMAA Benches weren't possible duo the lack of 96bit Audio Support of the RetailOS |
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| 23:30:06 | Gargamale | If you know that why ask the question? |
| 23:30:13 | Gargamale | You answered yourself |
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| 23:30:53 | BHSPitLappy | no he didn't... |
| 23:31:04 | bluey^awy | eh? |
| 23:31:05 | Mikachu | bluey^awy: do you mean 96khz 24bit? |
| 23:31:11 | Gargamale | Well he gave a valid reason why no one has |
| 23:31:14 | Mikachu | i've never seen 96bit audio |
| 23:31:15 | bluey^awy | uhh yes |
| 23:31:21 | Mikachu | Gargamale: no he didn't |
| 23:31:22 | BHSPitLappy | Gargamale: there's this thing called Rockbox... |
| 23:31:30 | Mikachu | Gargamale: he said nobody tried it with retailos, and has anyone tried it with rockbox? |
| 23:31:40 | bluey^awy | i would do some but i have only a audigy2 |
| 23:31:41 | sharpe | what is this rockbox... |
| 23:32:00 | BHSPitLappy | sharpe: it's the end result of european programmers on various drug trips |
| 23:32:04 | Gargamale | oo |
| 23:32:12 | Gargamale | My bad |
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| 23:32:20 | BHSPitLappy | yes, your bad! |
| 23:32:28 | sharpe | but not all of them live in europe... |
| 23:32:40 | Gargamale | BHSPitLappy: Shit happens |
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| 23:32:54 | BHSPitLappy | elaborate |
| 23:33:08 | Gargamale | Somtimes people make mistakes |
| 23:33:16 | Gargamale | Less vague? |
| 23:33:17 | sharpe | if i remember, lostlogic doesn't. |
| 23:33:26 | Gargamale | Your mom doesnt |
| 23:33:36 | sharpe | you're right. |
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| 23:34:14 | Gargamale | Yo mama is a whitey |
| 23:34:21 | sharpe | yep. |
| 23:34:42 | bluey^awy | i see, rockbox users are a really clever folk :P |
| 23:36:16 | Camilo | what ogg encoding settings would you guys recommend for rockbox on H340? |
| 23:36:37 | bluey^awy | Q10 !!!11 |
| 23:37:15 | Rincewind | q5 is cosidered a good compromise usually |
| 23:37:49 | Camilo | I'm about to re-rip my entire collection :-/ |
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| 23:38:15 | Camilo | what about tagging - is there anything I should watch out for? |
| 23:38:16 | Rincewind | what did you use before? |
| 23:38:28 | Camilo | lame and 128kbps |
| 23:38:40 | Rincewind | ok, then i can understand you |
| 23:38:42 | Mikachu | if you were happy with mp3 at 128kbps, use -q3 |
| 23:38:45 | Gargamale | Tagging? I use Tag&Rename |
| 23:38:50 | Gargamale | It pulls album art and reviews |
| 23:39:17 | Camilo | not really happy - although I mostly listen in the car, where 128 is fine, when I listen through headphones I hear too much artifact |
| 23:39:26 | Rincewind | maybe it is a good idea to include the freedb disc ID in |
| 23:39:59 | Ctcp | Ignored 5 channel CTCP requests in 22 minutes and 51 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:39:59 | * | scottder hands Luggage to Rincewind |
| 23:39:59 | scottder | :) |
| 23:40:00 | bluey^awy | Camilo: don't forget to use the latest autov (or whatelse) version |
| 23:40:12 | Rincewind | :-) |
| 23:40:12 | Camilo | I'll be doing the tagging from scratch (linux). I have a perl script that pulls the tag info from cddb but haven't decided where to put it yet. |
| 23:40:23 | bluey^awy | it's essential |
| 23:40:31 | scottder | with the latest ops I have great luck even at q3 for music |
| 23:40:40 | Camilo | bluey^awy, autov - is that the gain control stuff?# |
| 23:41:28 | bluey^awy | no i'm speaking of the modded Encoder |
| 23:41:57 | Camilo | I'll get the latest oggenc |
| 23:42:03 | bluey^awy | not the official one |
| 23:42:04 | scottder | http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/ |
| 23:42:05 | bluey^awy | w8 |
| 23:42:07 | bluey^awy | thx |
| 23:42:12 | scottder | from there |
| 23:42:17 | Camilo | I'll check it out, thanks |
| 23:42:18 | Rincewind | I personnally use lame mp3 vbr-new q3 |
| 23:43:12 | bluey^awy | i think autov has even beated Musepack at Q5 |
| 23:43:57 | stevenm | Can anyone tell me what the deal with the keymappings is? I need to test if up/down is being pressed in a plugin, and if so, adjust the volume. How would I go about doing this? |
| 23:44:05 | sharpe | almost done with my paper... |
| 23:44:12 | Mikachu | stevenm: look at any other plugin |
| 23:44:16 | sharpe | rb->get_button(false); or true for blocking |
| 23:44:33 | sharpe | or is it buttons... |
| 23:45:13 | sharpe | nope, it-s rb->button_get(false); |
| 23:45:27 | sharpe | i corrected myself, yay! |
| 23:45:32 | Mikachu | nice work |
| 23:45:39 | sharpe | and i'm also almost done with the fourth page! yay! |
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| 23:47:02 | stevenm | aah thanks guys |
| 23:47:24 | Camilo | Thanks for your help everyone |
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| 23:52:18 | Mikachu | scottder: beta4.51 is the latest one? |
| 23:53:21 | scottder | I believe so.....i am using one someone on Hydrogren Audio built with an optimzied compiler |
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| 23:54:35 | Mikachu | you'll probably get better quality the less optimization you use |
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| 23:55:09 | bluey^awy | lol not really |
| 23:55:11 | | Quit Gargamale ("Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/") |
| 23:55:21 | scottder | http://tinyurl.com/qngnz |
| 23:55:25 | bluey^awy | those optimized version's are only compiled with arch optimizations |
| 23:55:27 | scottder | but it's for windoze |
| 23:55:34 | scottder | yeah what bluey^awy |
| 23:55:49 | bluey^awy | at the end, it will produce the same file |
| 23:56:06 | scottder | I get pretty good speeds (I rip to flace, then I transcode for one the go) |
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