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| 00:12:26 | fiftyfour123 | someone port to HFS+ please i would love you |
| 00:12:40 | markun | fiftyfour123: why? |
| 00:12:52 | fiftyfour123 | so i can use it and not convert my ipod to FAT32 |
| 00:13:21 | markun | Why don't you just convert it? I think it's a lot easyer than adding HFS+ to rockbox. |
| 00:13:46 | fiftyfour123 | i dont wanna convert it then i cant update the firmware of my ipod |
| 00:14:05 | fiftyfour123 | from my mac |
| 00:14:10 | fiftyfour123 | and i dont like using pcs |
| 00:14:20 | markun | ok, didn't know that. |
| 00:15:18 | linuxstb | You can update it from a Mac - just follow the instructions in the InstallationFromMacOSX wiki page for extracting a firmware image from the Mac OS installer, and installing it. |
| 00:15:34 | fiftyfour123 | thats too complicated |
| 00:15:58 | linuxstb | Not as complicated as implemented an HFS+ filesystem |
| 00:16:04 | linuxstb | ^implementing |
| 00:16:16 | amiconn | HFS+ in rockbox won't happen anytime soon |
| 00:16:50 | linuxstb | And also, if you updated your ipod's firmware with the Apple installer, it would wipe Rockbox, so you would have to follow Rockbox's instructions to install Rockbox again anyway. |
| 00:17:26 | amiconn | Just for comparison how difficult it is to get a filesystem working correctly: the VFAT implementation in rockbox already exists a few years, and there's still the occasional bug to be found... |
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| 00:26:22 | dpro | amiconn: BTW I got a couple of ATA panics last night when navigating the filesystem |
| 00:30:43 | amiconn | preglow, linuxstb: Do you know whether the hw rev is written to the end of ram on PP5002 ipods as well? |
| 00:31:55 | * | amiconn also guesses that the readout is wrong on 64MB 5gs, even though *we* don't support the whole ram |
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| 00:32:36 | linuxstb | I think it's wrong on all 5gs. But it's not used for anything anyway. It's currently only used on the Photo/Color as part of the LCD detection. |
| 00:32:51 | amiconn | Yes, and it's displayed in the debug menu |
| 00:33:14 | amiconn | I'm currently shuffling around some things in order to make port debug usable on mini |
| 00:33:34 | amiconn | (currently it isn't because it simply doesn't fit the lcd) |
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| 00:34:07 | amiconn | I'm moving the hw revison to the (currently unpopulated for ipod) 'View HW info', where it belongs |
| 00:34:11 | linuxstb | It's a bit of a hack at the moment - it's read from location 0x2084 in the bootloader, and then passed to Rockbox at the end of DRAM so it survives the RAM remapping. |
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| 00:34:38 | linuxstb | The cleaner solution would be to read it in crt0.S before the RAM remapping and save it to a variable. |
| 00:35:03 | amiconn | Why not remap the rom as well, and read it from there? |
| 00:35:17 | amiconn | This would also allow to read the flash type |
| 00:35:27 | linuxstb | I'm not sure we know how to - you will need to ask preglow. |
| 00:35:32 | amiconn | ...and even flashing later :-) |
| 00:35:36 | Mikachu | i would be more comfortable if it wasn't possible to access the flash while running rockbox |
| 00:35:54 | amiconn | Mikachu: Why? |
| 00:36:08 | Mikachu | less chance of overwriting it by accident |
| 00:36:13 | amiconn | Accidentally writing something is almost impossible |
| 00:36:26 | Mikachu | impossible is better than almost impossible |
| 00:36:40 | amiconn | You would first need to put the chip into flash mode, which requires a special command sequence |
| 00:36:55 | * | amiconn wants flash access |
| 00:37:13 | * | amiconn wants rockbox in flash for really fast boot, like on archos |
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| 00:37:30 | * | amiconn knows that this isn't likely to become reality on ipod :/ |
| 00:37:31 | Mikachu | heh, i guess it makes a difference on hd players eh |
| 00:38:02 | amiconn | The apple loader takes longer than the whole rockbox boot on my mini... |
| 00:38:23 | linuxstb | Do you still have retailos in your firmware partition? |
| 00:38:23 | amiconn | (and that's clearly not caused by the disk spinup) |
| 00:38:49 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes, why? Would it be possible to put just the rockbox loader there? |
| 00:39:18 | linuxstb | The apple bootloader loads both the Rockbox loader and retailos into RAM - that slows it down a lot on my 4g color. |
| 00:39:43 | amiconn | Well, I have no use for retailos... |
| 00:39:57 | linuxstb | A quick hack would be to create a dummy apple_os.bin (e.g. dd if=/dev/zero of=apple_os.bin count=1) and use that instead of the real thing. |
| 00:40:15 | linuxstb | (you may have to experiment with the size, I forget if there is a minimum) |
| 00:40:52 | linuxstb | An alternative would be to change ipod_fw to create a firmware consisting solely of the Rockbox loader. But I think the IPL people are already working on that, they may already have done it. |
| 00:41:26 | linuxstb | Doing that cuts about 4 seconds from my boot-time on my 4g. |
| 00:41:29 | amiconn | The bootloader should then be adapted to ignore Menu |
| 00:41:51 | linuxstb | Yes, it should be able to detect if retailos is there. |
| 00:41:52 | amiconn | Heck, it wouldn't even need to check buttons at all |
| 00:42:03 | linuxstb | Apart from loading IPL... |
| 00:42:06 | Mikachu | nano boots in 3 seconds or so |
| 00:42:16 | amiconn | linuxstb: Drop that... |
| 00:42:27 | amiconn | (build-selectable) |
| 00:42:45 | Mikachu | i don't think checking the buttons takes long, it just reads the state, no waiting |
| 00:43:56 | dpro | linuxstb: I don't think that there's a minimum size, I did that on my nano with size=1 |
| 00:44:01 | linuxstb | No, I don't think removing the button check will give any noticable speedup. |
| 00:44:18 | linuxstb | dpro: OK. |
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| 01:23:39 | Todd | Can I expect normal(ish) battery times on my ipod if I only play mp3s? (I am assuming playing ogg and what not use much more battery.. is this true?) |
| 01:24:24 | Galois | rockbox has about equally bad battery consumption on all file formats |
| 01:24:43 | Todd | aaah |
| 01:25:11 | Todd | so it always uses the firmware to play, even if ipod supports the format natively? |
| 01:26:14 | Galois | rockbox does nothing with the original code on the ipod except for boot the original firmware when you tell it to |
| 01:26:20 | Todd | I really like rockbox (had it on my archos for years) but Im not sure if I want to put it on my ipod if the battery is only going to last 4 hours |
| 01:26:29 | Todd | gotcha |
| 01:26:36 | amiconn | Depends on your ipod |
| 01:26:55 | amiconn | My battery lasts >9 hours (mini 2nd gen) |
| 01:26:58 | Galois | the ipod nano lasts 8 hours |
| 01:29:11 | Mikachu | Todd: ogg is better than mp3 for battery probably |
| 01:29:21 | sharpe | my video lasts... i suppose 5-9 hours on rockbox. |
| 01:29:54 | Galois | ogg is slightly better than mp3, but it's nothing to write home about |
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| 01:38:56 | Todd | hrm |
| 01:39:03 | Todd | I have a video too... 5-9 hours isn't bad! |
| 01:39:29 | midkay_ | 5-9 hours. haha. |
| 01:39:39 | Todd | I think at this point I love rockbox too much to use anything else ;) |
| 01:39:43 | midkay_ | yeah, mine lasts somewhere between 1-100 hours.. |
| 01:40:20 | Todd | give or take 95? |
| 01:40:52 | midkay_ | abouts, yeah. |
| 01:41:41 | Todd | is rockbox still sans-clickwheel? |
| 01:42:10 | midkay_ | what? |
| 01:42:35 | Todd | does it support the click wheel? |
| 01:42:38 | Todd | on the menus? |
| 01:42:44 | midkay_ | um.. it always has.. |
| 01:42:57 | midkay_ | the click wheel is used almost everywhere. |
| 01:42:59 | Todd | Oh. I thought I had read somewhere that it didn't.. i was trying to find proof otherwise in the FAQ |
| 01:43:02 | Todd | Awesome |
| 01:43:08 | midkay_ | i thought you used rockbox. |
| 01:43:12 | mirak | Mikachu: on the iriver firmware ogg sucks more battery than mp3 |
| 01:43:40 | Mikachu | mirak: yes but he asked about ipod |
| 01:43:42 | amiconn | mirak: Yes, and rockbox on iriver (coldfire) does as well |
| 01:43:48 | amiconn | On ipod it's different |
| 01:46:10 | mirak | why ? |
| 01:46:25 | Galois | because tremor has one file with arm assembly optimizations |
| 01:46:31 | mirak | ok |
| 01:47:17 | Mikachu | rather that mp3 has none |
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| 02:57:11 | sharpe | wahhh! |
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| 02:57:35 | sharpe | woo! |
| 02:57:45 | midkay | yeah.. |
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| 02:58:03 | sharpe | eh, i don't know when i'm going to get back to work on the emulator... |
| 02:59:27 | midkay | pffff. |
| 02:59:35 | sharpe | i've the time, but not the motivation |
| 02:59:47 | midkay | and you've come so far. |
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| 03:00:23 | sharpe | i guess if you consider a somewhat decent emulation of the c64 with only standard text mode... sure... |
| 03:01:30 | sharpe | i know i'll get back to working on it sometime |
| 03:02:27 | midkay | :D |
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| 03:48:42 | goffa | yay... got my h140 over the weekend |
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| 04:16:24 | RoC_MM | Note to all, 5/7 daily build for 4G Greyscale is not functional. Does not get beyond Rockbox boot screen. |
| 04:16:42 | RoC_MM | 5/5 is functional. |
| 04:16:49 | RoC_MM | i think that's the one I grabbed |
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| 05:42:34 | goffa | hmm... there something special you have to do to mount the h140 in linux? |
| 05:42:46 | goffa | mount /dev/sdc1 doesn't seem to be doing it |
| 05:42:53 | goffa | when i look in /dev its not showing up |
| 05:42:54 | goffa | ;( |
| 05:43:30 | goffa | rockbox is switching to usb mode for whatever that's worth |
| 05:48:26 | stevenm | goffa, lookit dmesg. maybe it was assigned to something other than sdc |
| 05:49:22 | goffa | ah.. i wasn't using supplied cable... didn't think that mattered |
| 05:50:59 | stevenm | are there 2 ports on H340.. one for usb storage and one for windows media. are ythere 2 usb ports on your 140 ? |
| 05:52:35 | goffa | only one on the 140 |
| 05:52:40 | goffa | i got it going |
| 05:52:45 | stevenm | ok cool |
| 05:52:57 | goffa | was the cable |
| 05:53:10 | goffa | the one for the iaudio had the same connector |
| 05:53:15 | goffa | so i figured it was the same |
| 05:53:18 | goffa | but aparently not |
| 05:54:40 | stevenm | it should be |
| 05:54:43 | stevenm | works for me.. |
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| 07:20:33 | Rhapsody | Can I install and boot the iPod firmware, iPod Linux, and Rockbox on one device? |
| 07:21:07 | Mikachu | y |
| 07:21:19 | scorche | es |
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| 07:22:40 | Rhapsody | Would I just hold menu and then rewind to boot Linux? |
| 07:22:53 | Mikachu | play |
| 07:23:21 | Rhapsody | Oh, okay, any special settings to set or will this work from the start? |
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| 07:23:42 | Mikachu | put linux.bin in / on the fat partition |
| 07:24:00 | Rhapsody | I don't have a FAT partition on my iPod. |
| 07:24:14 | Mikachu | you can't use rockbox til you do |
| 07:24:16 | Rhapsody | Just one HFS+ one. |
| 07:24:28 | Rhapsody | I have to repartition? |
| 07:24:52 | Mikachu | i guess so |
| 07:25:18 | Rhapsody | That sucks. |
| 07:26:42 | B4gder | option 2: write HFS code for Rockbox ;-) |
| 07:27:27 | Mikachu | rb linux and apple can all read fat |
| 07:27:57 | scott666 | is there any benefit to having your ipod HFS+ formatted? |
| 07:28:04 | Rhapsody | I can't boot iPod Linux on FAT, I need either HFS+ or Linux format. |
| 07:28:15 | Rhapsody | scott666: It came like that and I never changed it. |
| 07:28:23 | Mikachu | you can have a small ext3 partition |
| 07:28:34 | Rhapsody | I suppose it preserves application data inside data files. |
| 07:28:34 | Mikachu | or boot it from an initrd if you want to fiddle around |
| 07:28:36 | scott666 | Rhapsody: im just asking in general |
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| 07:29:19 | Rhapsody | If your file has no extension on a FAT drive, the OS would not know which application to open it in. |
| 07:29:40 | scott666 | if you can have it in a format that can be read by pretty much /any/ comptuer or only by a mac you'd think there'd have to be some benefit that HFS+ has over fat32, wouldnt you? |
| 07:30:23 | scott666 | maybe im only asking because i dont know anything about HFS |
| 07:30:24 | scott666 | heh |
| 07:31:22 | Rhapsody | http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/messagepad/stats/newton_mp_2100.html |
| 07:31:31 | Rhapsody | Sorry, wrong window. |
| 07:31:58 | scott666 | im going to sleep anyway |
| 07:31:59 | scott666 | heh |
| 07:32:02 | scott666 | night all |
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| 07:32:50 | Rhapsody | Could I just make two partitions on my iPod, one HFS+ and one FAT? |
| 07:33:34 | Mikachu | you wouldn't be able to read anything from the hfs partition in rockbox |
| 07:33:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:34:19 | Rhapsody | Yes, that's fine. |
| 07:36:12 | Rhapsody | Perhaps I should just delete iPod Linux. |
| 07:37:49 | qwm | : |
| 07:37:51 | qwm | um. |
| 07:38:07 | qwm | the ipod nano, can i use it as a dictaphone? |
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| 07:46:14 | linuxstb | qwm: I think the Nano supports mono recording via the right input of the headphone socket, so yes. But recording is not implemented in Rockbox yet. |
| 07:46:30 | Rhapsody | iPod Linux should do it. |
| 07:46:41 | linuxstb | It does. |
| 07:47:11 | qwm | alright. :) |
| 07:47:27 | qwm | will it get implented for rockbox anytime soon? |
| 07:48:39 | qwm | midkay: why don't you do anything useful for once and write that feature. |
| 07:48:40 | qwm | :p |
| 07:48:41 | linuxstb | Yes, I'm planning on working on it right after 3.0 is released. |
| 07:48:49 | qwm | ah. cool. :) |
| 07:49:10 | qwm | is video on the nano a possibility? |
| 07:49:13 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:49:28 | qwm | and what's up with grayscale video on those oldass archos devices. |
| 07:49:29 | qwm | :p |
| 07:49:31 | Mikachu | maybe, the resolution is low |
| 07:49:43 | linuxstb | That's a good thing - less data to decode... |
| 07:49:51 | qwm | yep. :D |
| 07:50:08 | qwm | is it the same cpu in all ipods? |
| 07:50:10 | qwm | or similar ones. |
| 07:50:17 | linuxstb | Similar. |
| 07:50:32 | qwm | ah. :) |
| 07:51:16 | Rhapsody | Would it be better to run on an Archos Jukebox Multimedia? |
| 07:51:18 | linuxstb | The 1g-3g have a PP5002 which has a slow cache, the 1st gen mini, 4g greyscale and Color/Photo have a PP5020, the Nano and 4g have PP5021 and the 2nd gen mini has a PP5022. |
| 07:51:37 | midkay | nano and 5g, you mean? |
| 07:51:52 | linuxstb | I think the PP5020 and PP5021 are the same in terms of performance, but the PP5022 can theoretically be clocked higher (but we don't do it at the moment). |
| 07:52:20 | linuxstb | midkay: err, yes. |
| 07:52:21 | amiconn | It can also practically clocked higher, I tried it |
| 07:52:35 | linuxstb | :) |
| 07:52:56 | midkay | how high do you think the PP5021 could be clocked somewhat-safely? :) |
| 07:53:01 | amiconn | I clocked my mini 2g at 96MHz. No skipping with lame −−preset standard mp3s + all 5 eq channels |
| 07:53:05 | Mikachu | i think the spec is 80mhz |
| 07:53:20 | Mikachu | i tried 78 and it worked fine |
| 07:54:39 | amiconn | The exact specs of the PP5021 are not known as there is not even a product brief available |
| 07:54:51 | midkay | Mikachu, hm, i wonder about 81. |
| 07:54:53 | Mikachu | i think the advertisement thing said something about it |
| 07:55:04 | Mikachu | or whatever it was |
| 07:55:07 | Mikachu | i saw some document about it |
| 07:55:23 | amiconn | The PP5002 is specced 90MHz, 5020: 80MHz and PP5022: 100MHz |
| 07:55:40 | Mikachu | ah, okay |
| 07:55:46 | midkay | interesting |
| 07:56:05 | dongs | PP5022 is specced: failure |
| 07:56:16 | dongs | (in a sense that apple dumped them) |
| 07:56:32 | amiconn | Perhaps they were too expensive |
| 07:56:41 | dongs | they should just switch to qualcomm chips |
| 07:57:13 | B4gder | they chose Samsung |
| 07:57:16 | linuxstb | They've announced a switch to Samsung ARM. |
| 07:57:35 | Mikachu | more fun for ipl |
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| 07:57:43 | linuxstb | And us... |
| 07:59:26 | dongs | yea i knoiw they chose smasung |
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| 08:01:04 | qwm | midkay claims there'll never ever be mp4/xvid support for the ipod nano, is he a michievous liar or is he telling the truth? |
| 08:01:11 | midkay | haha. FU. |
| 08:02:52 | dongs | lol mp4. lol xvid. |
| 08:02:54 | linuxstb | It's possible, the only question is how many fps can be achieved. |
| 08:02:55 | dongs | lol 80mhz cpu |
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| 08:03:04 | linuxstb | dual 80mhz cpus |
| 08:03:12 | qwm | i'd be happy with 24fps. |
| 08:03:14 | qwm | :P |
| 08:03:28 | B4gder | you can have that |
| 08:03:33 | B4gder | in a 10x10 square ;-) |
| 08:03:57 | qwm | that'd be sooo useful! |
| 08:04:06 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:04:07 | midkay | pwnd. |
| 08:04:20 | qwm | shut up. :( |
| 08:05:54 | dongs | wahts the point anyway. |
| 08:06:13 | qwm | watching fawlty towers on the train?! |
| 08:06:16 | qwm | for example! |
| 08:06:18 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:06:25 | dongs | like last year i found out i can paly 320x240@15fps xvid/aac videos on my phone. the novelty lasted for about 30 seconds. |
| 08:06:45 | qwm | you're harder to please than i am, then! |
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| 08:08:03 | violatrin | hey can anyone help me out with this problem http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4079.0 |
| 08:08:06 | dongs | i finally got past level 40 in bubbles damn that shit was hard |
| 08:08:13 | dongs | now im on 47 or somesthing |
| 08:08:24 | scorche | heh...i am on like 65 or something |
| 08:08:28 | dongs | doh. |
| 08:08:28 | scorche | ....on an archos |
| 08:08:34 | Snapya | how do install the boot loader for an 4th gen ipod? |
| 08:08:37 | dongs | does that make it worse or better |
| 08:08:42 | scorche | worse |
| 08:08:45 | midkay | dongs, wtf. |
| 08:08:50 | dongs | Snapya: i think the IpodInstallHowto or somethign in the wiki covers it good |
| 08:08:55 | dongs | midkay: wtf @ what? |
| 08:08:58 | midkay | pathetic! |
| 08:09:03 | midkay | if you think that was hard, wait for level 100. |
| 08:09:06 | dongs | hah. |
| 08:09:23 | linuxstb | violatrin: It looks like that WPS needs a patch to work. So you'll either have to patch Rockbox, or wait for the feature it needs (text margins) to be implemented in the official builds. |
| 08:09:38 | Snapya | hank you |
| 08:09:49 | violatrin | thanks |
| 08:09:50 | scorche | midkay: if you think that was hard, play it on an archos |
| 08:10:09 | dongs | Snapya: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 08:10:24 | dongs | (incase you didnt find it yet) |
| 08:10:31 | midkay | scorche, i've tried. :) |
| 08:11:03 | scorche | to 100? =P |
| 08:11:41 | violatrin | hey, how might i learn how to patch rockbox to work with that theme, and how long would it take? |
| 08:11:43 | midkay | no, to like 2. |
| 08:11:44 | midkay | :p |
| 08:11:58 | scorche | i win |
| 08:12:02 | dongs | violatrin: "text margins" patch. |
| 08:12:45 | dongs | what does the midi player play with? samples? or FM synth |
| 08:14:15 | linuxstb | violatrin: Instructions for compiling Rockbox and applying patches are here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
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| 08:14:40 | linuxstb | The VMWare option seems to be the one WIndows users are recommending - compiling is a lot faster than Cygwin. |
| 08:17:13 | Rhapsody | Can I use all the Rockbox CODECs with my iPod? |
| 08:17:44 | dongs | most of them i think |
| 08:17:57 | Rhapsody | Well the 3rd party ones. |
| 08:18:29 | dongs | duno there's a list http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs here |
| 08:18:44 | dongs | i would imagine most of those would work. |
| 08:19:04 | Rhapsody | I want mostly the SID and MOD CODECs. |
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| 08:19:43 | dongs | looks like its not done properly yet |
| 08:20:13 | B4gder | Rhapsody: if the patches are done fine they should |
| 08:20:49 | Rhapsody | Patches/ |
| 08:20:52 | Rhapsody | ? |
| 08:21:05 | dongs | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4 |
| 08:21:06 | dongs | and search |
| 08:21:08 | dongs | for sid |
| 08:21:08 | dongs | or mod |
| 08:21:11 | dongs | and see if its current |
| 08:21:12 | dongs | and apply |
| 08:21:16 | dongs | and fix it if it breaks |
| 08:21:16 | B4gder | the sid and mod codecs are only available as patches |
| 08:21:18 | dongs | and rebuild |
| 08:21:25 | dongs | yes. |
| 08:22:12 | Rhapsody | So what do I do with these files after I download them? |
| 08:22:15 | BHSPitLappy | are they even "codecs"? |
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| 08:22:53 | dongs | you patch the current rockbox cvs with them, rebuild, and overwrite your .rockbox and whatever otehr junk with the new built stuff |
| 08:23:12 | B4gder | Rhapsody: you first need a build environment setup that lets you build Rockbox from source |
| 08:23:41 | dongs | how fast is mp3 encoding on ipod? |
| 08:24:03 | dongs | p3 ? ipod ? p4 replace ? with <,> |
| 08:24:59 | B4gder | it'll be way slower than any modern host CPU |
| 08:25:40 | dongs | i keep forgetting to copy some .wav files over to test |
| 08:26:06 | dongs | need to have a "decode mp3" option too. |
| 08:26:08 | dongs | to go mp3 -> wav |
| 08:26:27 | linuxstb | I haven't tested the latest version, but I'm pretty sure it's realtime. It's not the best quality encoder in the world though. |
| 08:26:42 | Rhapsody | What do I do with these .diff files? |
| 08:26:58 | B4gder | Rhapsody: you read the WorkingWithPatches wiki page |
| 08:27:24 | Rhapsody | Okay. |
| 08:27:25 | linuxstb | and SimpleGuideToCompiling... |
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| 08:38:03 | Rhapsody | Damn, everything is Windows oriented. |
| 08:38:10 | dongs | uh? |
| 08:38:20 | dongs | more like the other way around |
| 08:38:44 | B4gder | haha |
| 08:39:26 | Rhapsody | All the software it refers me to is for Windows, I even have to format my iPod on Windows using the Windows file system. |
| 08:39:45 | dongs | and you're what a mac user? |
| 08:40:08 | dongs | i'm sure i saw a "installing on mac" section somewehre |
| 08:40:15 | linuxstb | Rhapsody: FAT != Windows. |
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| 08:41:40 | Rhapsody | I have Mac and Linux boxes. |
| 08:41:51 | linuxstb | To compile under Mac OS X, you have to do the same as Linux users - ceate the necessary cross-compiler using the instructions on the CrossCompiler wiki page. |
| 08:41:54 | dongs | wtf |
| 08:42:01 | dongs | mp3 encoder doesnt handle mono files? |
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| 08:43:42 | Rhapsody | Is Rockbox on the iPod good or would it be better on my Archos Jukebox Multimedia? |
| 08:44:08 | B4gder | it doesn't run on the multimedia |
| 08:44:15 | dongs | it rocks on my nano, sure beats the retarded jewtunes-tied apple firmware |
| 08:44:16 | Rhapsody | Oh, never mind then. |
| 08:44:25 | linuxstb | dongs: Looking at the source, it looks like it should handle mono. What happens when you try? |
| 08:44:34 | dongs | linuxstb: im getting 2x faster playback |
| 08:44:50 | dongs | so i guessed it didnt work. |
| 08:44:59 | Rhapsody | I am just using Rockbox for SIDs and MODs, I would still use the normal iPod firmware for music and podcasts. |
| 08:45:19 | dongs | lol podcasts. |
| 08:45:38 | B4gder | Rhapsody: you'll learn to avoid the dark side eventually ;-) |
| 08:45:38 | dongs | linuxstb: its just a standard 44khz mono .wav |
| 08:45:39 | dongs | 16bit. |
| 08:45:54 | qwm | hm. |
| 08:46:00 | qwm | what about mpeg1 on the ipod nano? |
| 08:46:10 | dongs | mpeg1 what? video? |
| 08:46:14 | Rhapsody | I heard the iPod firmware is designed by some former Newton engineers and I really like my Newton. |
| 08:46:19 | qwm | yes, video. |
| 08:46:20 | midkay | dongs, you said mp3. |
| 08:46:46 | midkay | Rhapsody, ah, the *fact* keeps you. no matter how the interface looks - it's designed by these guys, so technically, it MUST be good! ;) |
| 08:47:23 | Rhapsody | Also, Rockbox cannot sync with my iTunes, yet. |
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| 08:47:50 | linuxstb | dongs: Yes, it's a bug. If you look at where init_mp3_encoder() is called in mp3_encoder.c, it passes "true" as the first parameter - this indicates stereo. Try replacing true with something like (cfg.channels==2). |
| 08:48:02 | Rhapsody | Once it reads the iTunes library, then maybe. |
| 08:48:05 | dongs | linuxstb: cool, looks like you have a patch coming up |
| 08:48:08 | dongs | lol itunes library. |
| 08:48:15 | linuxstb | dongs: If you test it, I'll commit.... |
| 08:48:17 | dongs | i think most people running rockbox could care less about itunes library. |
| 08:48:18 | midkay | Rhapsody, do some research, it can build a music database for you. |
| 08:48:20 | dongs | me included |
| 08:48:23 | dongs | linuxstb: sure. make it and i'll test |
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| 08:48:24 | midkay | dongs, that is *so* funnier. like, it gets funnier every time. |
| 08:48:32 | midkay | funny* |
| 08:48:34 | dongs | :D |
| 08:49:06 | dongs | i gotta unpatch these 2 failed scroll wheel patches |
| 08:50:41 | Rhapsody | My iTunes library is used by many applications so I'd like to keep it working seamlessly. |
| 08:50:51 | linuxstb | Rhapsody: Rockbox doesn't read the itunes database, but it indexes the files on your ipod itself and creates its own database. |
| 08:51:17 | linuxstb | Rockbox supports many audio formats that itunes refuses to believe your ipod can play... |
| 08:51:32 | midkay | Rhapsody, so, *effectively*, you access all the things you load from itunes. |
| 08:51:39 | dongs | allright rebuilding |
| 08:51:55 | Rhapsody | I really just want SIDs and MODs, which I have to compile myself for those to work. |
| 08:52:00 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:52:00 | * | scorche wonders why Rhapsody doesnt use Rhapsody |
| 08:52:19 | Rhapsody | I have in the past. |
| 08:52:28 | Rhapsody | It works alright. |
| 08:52:31 | Rhapsody | Even on intel. |
| 08:52:37 | dongs | i prefer OS's that work |
| 08:52:43 | dongs | which is why I use Windows XP Professional SP2 |
| 08:52:45 | B4gder | Rhapsody: I'm sure those codecs will become part of the official Rockboc package one day |
| 08:52:52 | Rhapsody | dongs: lol |
| 08:52:53 | B4gder | rockbox |
| 08:53:10 | dongs | im dead serious. |
| 08:53:16 | dongs | i like to use my computer the way I want. |
| 08:53:30 | B4gder | wow, that's unusual ;-) |
| 08:53:33 | Rhapsody | Rhapsody is about as old as that. |
| 08:53:43 | scorche | lol...i use linux cause i want the same thing =) |
| 08:53:49 | Rhapsody | And nobody today would use Rhapsody as their main OS. |
| 08:53:55 | * | linuxstb agrees with scorche |
| 08:54:08 | dongs | linuxstb: testing |
| 08:55:40 | dongs | where does the mp3_encoder rock go? |
| 08:55:42 | dongs | plugins? |
| 08:56:18 | linuxstb | Just look for the existing one - I think it's .rockbox/viewers/ |
| 08:56:28 | B4gder | make zip && unzip -l rockbox.zip | grep mp3_encoder |
| 08:58:02 | dongs | 31 seconds to convert 44second wav |
| 08:58:03 | dongs | not bad |
| 08:58:40 | dongs | linuxstb: works |
| 08:59:32 | dongs | just as you said |
| 08:59:33 | dongs | init_mp3_encoder_engine((cfg.channels == 2), brate[srat], cfg.samplerate); |
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| 09:01:23 | dongs | wiat |
| 09:01:28 | dongs | something is still fucked though |
| 09:01:40 | dongs | its still twice speed |
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| 09:04:35 | dongs | linuxstb: whats this shit in line 2155 @ mp3_encoder.c |
| 09:04:43 | linuxstb | dongs: Ah, it seems that Stereo input is assumed in lots of places.... The encoder itself seems to support mono, but the Rockbox implementation breaks it. |
| 09:04:45 | dongs | downmix left + right to mono? |
| 09:04:48 | dongs | yeah |
| 09:05:07 | qwm | :> |
| 09:05:14 | linuxstb | It shouldn't be that hard to fix by the looks of it though, but I need to start my day job now. |
| 09:05:14 | qwm | does rockbox itself use code from other projects? |
| 09:05:33 | petur | yes |
| 09:05:33 | linuxstb | Mainly the audio codec libraries. I don't think there is much else. |
| 09:05:41 | petur | ipl? |
| 09:05:46 | linuxstb | Plus some plugins are ports of other applications. |
| 09:06:07 | linuxstb | Yes - our low-level ipod code is mostly based on IPL code. |
| 09:06:24 | dongs | how about a port of http://pbx.mine.nu/huhuirc/ to it |
| 09:06:44 | linuxstb | You would be very lonely... |
| 09:06:48 | B4gder | feel free to port whatever you want! |
| 09:06:54 | qwm | cool. |
| 09:07:08 | scorche | linuxstb: i dont think he would be |
| 09:07:17 | qwm | one day, i'll port mplayer and freeciv to rockbox. |
| 09:08:11 | scorche | if i had a color player, i would port a couple games to rockbox |
| 09:08:17 | dongs | like what |
| 09:08:21 | linuxstb | qwm: We already use parts of ffmpeg, which mplayer is based on. |
| 09:08:21 | scorche | <3 scorched earth |
| 09:08:30 | qwm | :D |
| 09:08:35 | amiconn | linuxstb: There are some other places with adopted code, e.g. the prng |
| 09:08:54 | linuxstb | prng? |
| 09:09:02 | qwm | rockbox is such a sweet project, i'm finally realizing that. |
| 09:09:07 | dongs | i'm guessing pseudo random number generator |
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| 09:09:23 | linuxstb | dongs: Ah, OK. |
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| 09:10:45 | dongs | hm |
| 09:12:31 | dongs | oh |
| 09:12:43 | dongs | cfg.mpg.mode |
| 09:12:53 | dongs | is what determines that it will be outputting mono |
| 09:12:58 | amiconn | linuxstb: Also, many C implementations of string functions are taken from newlib |
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| 09:15:23 | dongs | i dont see a bug open on mp3_encoder's fuckup with mono files, shoudl I make one? |
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| 09:19:14 | linuxstb | Yes - or preferably a patch... |
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| 09:20:14 | dongs | huhu |
| 09:20:19 | dongs | im way to lazy for that |
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| 09:22:52 | dongs | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5317 |
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| 09:28:49 | dongs | hm |
| 09:28:51 | dongs | still fucked |
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| 09:35:28 | dongs | i wonder if each tiem in compress() where tehy use 2 * its because they're doing it stereo. |
| 09:35:33 | dongs | especially in stuff like buffers etc. |
| 09:36:16 | dongs | oh well |
| 09:36:19 | dongs | to lazy to look at it |
| 09:40:23 | linuxstb | It also assumes 16-bit input - so you see *4 in places as well... I just hope that the mono parts of the encoder haven't been broken as well during the optimisations that have happened. |
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| 10:18:13 | dongs | huhu |
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| 10:30:13 | dave | hello |
| 10:30:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hi |
| 10:30:53 | qwm | :> |
| 10:31:18 | dave | hi, I just updated my rockbox build on my 4g ipod |
| 10:31:21 | dave | its working nicely |
| 10:31:33 | dave | however I noticed that the CPU frequency is changing by itself |
| 10:31:41 | dave | ie. rockbox is managing it intelligently |
| 10:31:53 | dave | any feedback on how this affects battery life yet? |
| 10:32:09 | dave | playback seems to be completely skipfree |
| 10:32:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | It improves it, though by how much depends on what formats you use and other things. |
| 10:32:26 | dave | ok |
| 10:32:50 | dave | and I take it the battery meter is now working on the 4g? |
| 10:33:13 | dave | 4.05 Volts it reads |
| 10:33:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not entirely accurate in terms of percentage, but it mostly works. |
| 10:33:40 | dave | cool |
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| 10:48:59 | Nibbler | is rockbox working on ipod mini? |
| 10:49:04 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:49:05 | scorche | yes |
| 10:49:31 | Nibbler | oi, might have to steal my gf's ipod then ;-) |
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| 10:52:59 | B4gder | stealth-installing Rockbox on your neightbour ipods is what we like ;-) |
| 10:53:24 | Nibbler | hehe ;-) |
| 10:53:36 | Nibbler | my archos broke 2 years ago :\ |
| 10:54:16 | scorche | i was in a retail store the other day, and someone was wanting a player that played ogg/flac and the employee had no clue what he was talking about |
| 10:54:24 | scorche | i jumped into the conversation =) |
| 10:54:25 | dwihno | :D |
| 10:54:32 | Nibbler | :] |
| 10:54:33 | dwihno | Sales people are the bestest! |
| 10:55:06 | Nibbler | beeing able to sell and knowing what you are talking about are two totally different things |
| 10:55:21 | Nibbler | and thats bi-directional |
| 10:55:26 | scorche | there are some that can do both, but they are once in a blue-moon |
| 10:56:04 | scorche | i was one of them back in my part-time HS retail job =] |
| 10:56:40 | Zagor | yay, I'll get an ipod mini |
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| 10:56:53 | B4gder | yeah, usually if you DO know your ways around you don't need to do sales ;-) |
| 10:57:52 | Nibbler | doom on rockbox is REAL now? i just remember it as a aprils fool joke.... |
| 10:58:16 | Zagor | there was a bet here at work about the result of a new business. the winner won an ipod mini. plus there was a provision if we go through the roof, everyone gets one. and... we went through the roof. |
| 10:58:38 | dwihno | ~\o |
| 10:58:41 | dwihno | cool stuff |
| 10:59:18 | Nibbler | nice1 :-) |
| 10:59:19 | scorche | B4gder: and usually, in HS, you dont have the ability to work a day-job |
| 10:59:27 | scorche | ;) |
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| 11:01:21 | linuxstb_ | Zagor: Congratulations :) But why an ipod mini? They've been discontinued for a while... |
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| 11:01:55 | Zagor | linuxstb: my mistake, it's a nano |
| 11:02:36 | linuxstb | OK, that makes more sense... |
| 11:02:50 | * | amiconn thinks the mini is better than the nano |
| 11:03:04 | linuxstb | I think I would agree. |
| 11:03:06 | amiconn | Especially the 2nd gen :-P |
| 11:03:49 | Zagor | well, harddrive always trumps flash in my mind. but I never object to new toys :-) |
| 11:04:11 | linuxstb | Especially Rockboxable toys... |
| 11:05:50 | amiconn | It's not the harddrive vs. flash why I think the mini is better |
| 11:07:12 | amiconn | LinusN: Are all voltages in the H300 generated by the PCF, or are there other voltage regulators? |
| 11:07:33 | * | amiconn has an idea what to check regarding the high power consumption |
| 11:07:46 | LinusN | there are more than the pcf50606, iir |
| 11:07:48 | LinusN | c |
| 11:07:57 | amiconn | Especially I would be interested how the coldfire core voltage is generated |
| 11:09:28 | LinusN | i'll have to refresh my memory regarding that, but i believe the core voltage is generated by a separate circuit |
| 11:10:02 | LinusN | hmmm, strike that |
| 11:10:14 | LinusN | it seems to be generated by the pcf50606 |
| 11:10:53 | amiconn | Hmm, if there is no further voltage reduction between the pcf and the coldfire (diode or somesuch) our core voltage setting is too high |
| 11:11:04 | amiconn | (or the comment in pcf50606.c is wrong) |
| 11:11:17 | LinusN | huh? |
| 11:11:18 | amiconn | Core voltage should be 1.8V +/- 10% |
| 11:13:22 | amiconn | The comment in pcf50606.c:509ff only mentions voltages of 2.4V and up |
| 11:14:08 | LinusN | yes, but i believe the core voltage is generated by another regulator |
| 11:14:17 | LinusN | which we don't touch |
| 11:14:31 | * | petur wonders if we can do 'cool 'n quiet' (voltage/frequency pairs) |
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| 11:23:30 | amiconn | LinusN: You believe or you know? |
| 11:23:43 | LinusN | believe |
| 11:24:02 | Zagor | OT: are there small notebooks made anymore? (and sold outside japan?) I'd like to buy a (very) small one for reading mail and surfing news on trips. like the old toshiba librettos. |
| 11:24:22 | B4gder | I believe there is |
| 11:24:31 | B4gder | I read about some using 1.8" drives |
| 11:24:32 | linuxstb | The nokia 770 looks fun. |
| 11:24:52 | petur | or this one: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/6827.html |
| 11:25:58 | linuxstb | Even though it's made by Nokia, there is no GSM module - it's got wifi and bluetooth. |
| 11:26:29 | Zagor | linuxstb: it looks fun, but I'm burnt with phones. they always to 35% of what you want, and make you go nuts thinking about how great the awesome hardware would be with good software... |
| 11:26:37 | linuxstb | It's not a phone... |
| 11:26:56 | B4gder | I believe the 770 is mostly interesting when you use it within wifi area |
| 11:27:05 | amiconn | LinusN: Perhaps that's something to check... |
| 11:27:19 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, there are many things to check |
| 11:27:22 | Zagor | linuxstb: oh :-) |
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| 11:27:46 | LinusN | in retrospect, i should probably have made extensive schematics, like on the h100 |
| 11:29:00 | linuxstb | Zagor: And it's Linux-based - the "community" is here: http://www.maemo.org/ |
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| 11:34:01 | Rhapsody | It seems like Rockbox won't take more than one patch, is that correct? |
| 11:34:27 | linuxstb | It depends on the patches. If they both change the same part of the code, then they will conflict with each other. |
| 11:34:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | What do you mean? |
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| 11:35:06 | Rhapsody | Oh, okay. |
| 11:35:17 | Rhapsody | Yes, they both change the same parts. |
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| 11:36:26 | Zagor | linuxstb: I think I want a "real" keyboard though. |
| 11:36:33 | Zagor | albeit small |
| 11:37:08 | petur | there exist some very small notebooks, sony has some.. |
| 11:37:23 | linuxstb | I've never used the 770 (but I've looked at a colleague's from afar), so can't comment on the virtual keyboard. |
| 11:37:43 | scorche | Zagor: there are always the sharp zaurus' |
| 11:37:45 | linuxstb | I guess you could use a bluetooth keyboard.... |
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| 11:46:11 | Zagor | hmm, Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook P1510: 990 gram, 8.9" display and a real keyboard. |
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| 11:49:31 | amiconn | Zagor: Toshiba still makes librettos |
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| 11:59:04 | tucoz | Hi, what do you think about the wps posted in the forums? (icatcher) I think it looks really nice. |
| 11:59:50 | tucoz | And, in my humble opionion a candidate to be shipped as default theme on the 3.0 release. |
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| 12:00:06 | tucoz | as it is ported to all the targets |
| 12:02:34 | dwihno | url? |
| 12:02:49 | petur | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4037.0 |
| 12:03:23 | preglow | not bad at all |
| 12:03:55 | tucoz | Maybe make the colours a bit more rockboxish for the colour targets |
| 12:04:46 | LinusN | is the nedore font a complete iso8859-1 font? |
| 12:04:58 | dwihno | pretty cute! |
| 12:08:28 | tucoz | different colour themes: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=38610 |
| 12:09:45 | chang | the rockbox colour pack is really nice |
| 12:10:20 | dwihno | the volume thing looks like the "loading page" icon from firefox :/ |
| 12:10:48 | tucoz | oh, so that is the volume thing. Hmm. |
| 12:11:00 | chang | i may test it |
| 12:12:28 | dwihno | otherwise, it's sleek and sexy |
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| 12:26:59 | JdGordon | does the auto-change dir setting work when u goto the previoous track from the first track in the playlist? |
| 12:28:16 | PaulJam | JdGordon: for me it works |
| 12:28:23 | JdGordon | hmm.. ok |
| 12:29:09 | Rhapsody | How do I get Rockbox to show the invisible .iPod_Control directory? |
| 12:29:53 | chang | Does anyone know how to apply cover art patch ? |
| 12:30:06 | PaulJam | have you tried to set fileview to show all files |
| 12:33:41 | preglow | chang: apply it like any other patc |
| 12:33:42 | preglow | h |
| 12:34:07 | chang | ok, so how to you apply a patch ? |
| 12:34:23 | chang | i'm under win32 |
| 12:35:27 | B4gder | chang: read the WorkingWithPatches wiki page |
| 12:36:12 | chang | ok, i'll try it |
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| 12:39:34 | chang | ok, i need source files for patch apply |
| 12:39:42 | B4gder | yes |
| 12:39:53 | chang | that was the problem ;) |
| 12:40:07 | chang | trying to apply it on compiled rockbox.ipod file |
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| 12:50:03 | JdGordon | are the forums dead? |
| 12:50:16 | JdGordon | i can go into individual threads.. but not the actual forums? |
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| 12:50:35 | JdGordon | no.. bloody firefox... |
| 12:52:04 | B4gder | I just always use the read new function |
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| 13:09:54 | zigford | Hey hey hey hey hey. I was reading up abit about the CPU on iPod now able to change freq. Anyone know when this occured? |
| 13:10:08 | Mikachu | beginning of time |
| 13:10:29 | Mikachu | or are you talking about changing it dynamically while running? |
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| 13:10:57 | zigford | Yes |
| 13:11:03 | Mikachu | a couple of months i think |
| 13:11:06 | zigford | that one |
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| 13:13:43 | JdGordon | is bool and int both stored the same in rockbox? or is bool 1 byte? |
| 13:15:31 | * | JdGordon hates playing with the settings struct :'( |
| 13:18:52 | amiconn | JdGordon: It depends on the target. However, you should never rely on such particularities, but use proper conversion |
| 13:21:54 | JdGordon | where is the settings struct version number thingy that needs to be changed? |
| 13:22:43 | * | petur writes a config file in preparation of wiped setings |
| 13:23:07 | JdGordon | haha..dw.. this for sure wont get added untill after the freeze.. |
| 13:23:09 | JdGordon | if at all |
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| 13:37:25 | Mikachu | you can use bool name:1 in a struct if you want, but it will probably be slower to access |
| 13:42:13 | preglow | probably? |
| 13:42:13 | preglow | heh |
| 13:42:15 | preglow | it will |
| 13:42:58 | preglow | bit fields should be shunned as a rule, they say |
| 13:43:01 | Mikachu | i sometimes talk like i'm not sure even though i am |
| 13:43:16 | Mikachu | it's better than the other way around :) |
| 13:46:32 | * | Mikachu wonders what a "minimum average" is |
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| 13:53:08 | dongs | looks like lunixstb is ready to fight that mono bug |
| 13:53:46 | linuxstb | I'll ask lunixstb if I see him |
| 13:54:03 | petur | :D |
| 13:54:54 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Still wondering about the "minimum average" ? |
| 13:55:13 | Mikachu | i think it sounds a bit strange, either it's a minimum or it's an average |
| 13:55:26 | linuxstb | It's the minimum of a set of averages. |
| 13:55:34 | linuxstb | (I would guess) |
| 13:55:39 | Mikachu | it's a defined constant |
| 13:57:06 | linuxstb | Well, a minimum has to be constant... |
| 13:57:33 | Mikachu | i just feel the minimum of an average of values would be the minimum of the values |
| 13:57:50 | Mikachu | but it's not vital to my survival if you have something better to do :) |
| 13:58:17 | linuxstb | No, take the examples of (10,11,12) and (5,6,7) - the minimum of the averages is 6. |
| 13:58:23 | JdGordon | grrr.. bloody fucking firefox.. useless piece of crap |
| 13:58:30 | petur | ? |
| 13:58:37 | B4gder | it serves me well |
| 13:58:52 | JdGordon | i have to keep bashing f5 for it to load web pages |
| 13:58:54 | Mikachu | so we always now that the average can't be of just the minimum value then? |
| 13:58:57 | Mikachu | know* |
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| 14:01:08 | linuxstb | Well, if the values are different, then minimum != mean. |
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| 14:02:10 | JdGordon | way off topic... but has the news of 2 trapped miners in tassy/aus made it to your news? |
| 14:02:59 | linuxstb | More off topic than minimum averages? |
| 14:03:46 | petur | JdGordon: not in Belgium... |
| 14:04:34 | linuxstb | Are these the people given ipods to help pass the time? |
| 14:05:01 | JdGordon | thems the ones |
| 14:05:12 | linuxstb | Then yes, it's made the UK news. |
| 14:05:43 | JdGordon | ok.. well aparently there is only 4 or 5 hours left... just curious if it was "world" news or not |
| 14:06:58 | petur | ha, found it |
| 14:07:30 | petur | they asked for a steak ;) |
| 14:07:50 | JdGordon | and didnt get it.. |
| 14:07:51 | petur | an ipod with countrymusic? rofl |
| 14:08:11 | JdGordon | first thing id do after coming out is beat the nutritionist who said no to the steak to a pulp :D |
| 14:08:34 | petur | and 1 milion euro for their story... |
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| 14:14:02 | chang | need some help to apply patches |
| 14:14:46 | chang | when i use patch command, i got a error : missing header for unified diff at line 8 of patch |
| 14:14:50 | dongs | chang: WorkingWithPatches |
| 14:15:00 | dongs | (on wiki) |
| 14:15:08 | chang | i'd read it |
| 14:15:19 | chang | but it doesn't help me |
| 14:16:15 | RedBreva | Is 'Pitch Setting' only available from WPS contect menu on iPod? |
| 14:16:45 | dongs | chang: rafb.net/paste the first 10 lines of the patch file |
| 14:17:13 | chang | ok |
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| 14:18:22 | chang | Index: apps/metadata.c |
| 14:18:22 | chang | =================================================================== |
| 14:18:22 | chang | RCS file: /cvsroot/rockbox/apps/metadata.c,v |
| 14:18:22 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK chang |
| 14:18:22 | chang | retrieving revision 1.42 |
| 14:18:22 | chang | diff -u -r1.42 metadata.c |
| 14:18:23 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 14:18:23 | chang | −−- apps/metadata.c 11 Apr 2006 03:54:24 -0000 1.42 |
| 14:18:25 | chang | +++ apps/metadata.c 12 Apr 2006 12:56:23 -0000 |
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| 14:18:27 | chang | @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ |
| 14:18:29 | chang | #include "replaygain.h" |
| 14:18:30 | dongs | i did say paste to rafb.net/ |
| 14:18:31 | chang | #include "debug.h" |
| 14:18:32 | dongs | not to here. |
| 14:18:32 | dongs | heh |
| 14:18:33 | chang | #include "system.h" |
| 14:18:35 | chang | +#include "gwps.h" |
| 14:18:37 | chang | |
| 14:18:39 | chang | sorry |
| 14:18:48 | dongs | but anyway. |
| 14:18:57 | dongs | doesnt look toomuch out of place |
| 14:19:01 | B4gder | that looks like a fine patch to me |
| 14:19:04 | dongs | so does patch -p0 < file.patch fail? |
| 14:19:17 | chang | where should i put the .patch file ? |
| 14:19:23 | dongs | doesnt matter |
| 14:19:25 | chang | (i'm using cygwin on win32) |
| 14:19:29 | dongs | patch -p0 < /path/to/patch |
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| 14:20:04 | chang | I got a prompt File to patch : |
| 14:20:15 | dongs | what |
| 14:20:22 | dongs | ok then youre in the wrong dir |
| 14:20:28 | dongs | get into main rockbox dir |
| 14:20:31 | dongs | and run that command from there |
| 14:20:35 | dongs | and if that fails do patch -p1 |
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| 14:20:50 | dongs | i think p0 should work though as long as youre in rockbox dir |
| 14:21:01 | B4gder | that patch clearly wants -p0 |
| 14:21:09 | dongs | yea |
| 14:21:28 | dpro | re |
| 14:21:45 | chang | ok it works |
| 14:21:53 | chang | thank you guys |
| 14:22:01 | dpro | anyone has a 1.0 bootpartition.bin or 1.0 based rockboot image for ipod video 60Gb ? |
| 14:22:16 | dongs | i know someone who has ipod video 30gb, would that help? |
| 14:22:27 | dongs | (doubtful) |
| 14:22:46 | dongs | (and did you check on wiki, i thought i saw boot patrition files on there) |
| 14:22:56 | dpro | dongs: I don't know and if it's relatively new then it will be 1.1 too |
| 14:23:45 | dpro | the problem is that apple's 1.1 has a bug with video playback and I really want to avoid finding a windos machine first and do a complete reinstall |
| 14:24:08 | dongs | oh, so basically you hae all the tools youre just "sticking it to the man" and not running windowws? |
| 14:24:11 | dongs | oh well, your loss sir. |
| 14:24:13 | dongs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#b_Download_the_partition_table_f |
| 14:24:16 | dongs | see if theres anything useful there |
| 14:24:28 | dongs | but those are just mbrs i think thats probably useless. |
| 14:26:10 | dpro | dongs: I have a powerbook with debian, there's no space on my disk to waste for os x and I could ask around if anyone running win would allow me to use the machine for a litlle, but I trust dd much more than those ipodupdater tools ... |
| 14:26:45 | Mikachu | dpro: i think lunixstd wrote ipodpatcher |
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| 14:26:58 | dpro | dongs: esp. when it comes to downgrading - a process unknown to marketing |
| 14:27:30 | Mikachu | buying windows just to upgrade an ipod sounds a bit expensive |
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| 14:35:18 | dpro | Mikachu: and it would mean buying a x86 box ... well I could try in qemu ;) |
| 14:35:26 | Mikachu | heh |
| 14:35:54 | Mikachu | can't you extract the ipod firmware from the updater.exe with some tool? i think i heard so |
| 14:36:30 | dpro | Mikachu: the problem is I don't have a 1.0 firmware, I bought the video just a couple of weeks ago |
| 14:36:51 | RedBreva | where is the code for the Pitch Settings screen? |
| 14:36:58 | dpro | Mikachu: and .exe sounds like something that won't run over here anyway |
| 14:37:08 | dpro | RedBreva: apps/screens.c |
| 14:37:13 | RedBreva | cheers |
| 14:37:35 | Mikachu | dpro: your chances of finding someone to run a command for you and send a file are a bit higher though |
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| 14:38:02 | dpro | RedBreva: what are you having in mind for it ? (because I've worked on it a little lately to make it more dj friendly) |
| 14:38:39 | RedBreva | just trying to confirm the key presses for all platforms - trying to update the manual page... |
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| 14:39:13 | dpro | Mikachu: hehe ... anyone with a 1.0 firmware and unix willing to run dd if=/dev/sda1 of=fordpro ; scp fordpro yourwebserver:public_html |
| 14:39:37 | dpro | maybe do a bzip2 fordpro in between ... |
| 14:39:59 | JdGordon | do i need to bother with doing srand before calling rand? |
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| 14:43:56 | dpro | JdGordon: that depends on what you want ... |
| 14:44:43 | dpro | JdGordon: for quite random behaviour srand(time) or similar is a good idea, for a reproduceable sequence srand(CONSTANT) might be useful for debugging |
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| 14:45:24 | dpro | Mikachu: see - no one wants to dd for me ;) |
| 14:46:33 | JdGordon | ye, i know.. im asking more for in rockbox... im trying to run through and array randomly, s im doing srand(current_tick), then index = (index+101)rand()%num_files and i always seem to be getting the same sequence.. |
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| 14:46:46 | * | dpro thinks hard if anyone he knows anyone who has a win video 60Gb with 1.0 , is dd-capable and willing to help out |
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| 14:48:30 | Galois | if you could somehow send me an ipod video, I would help out |
| 14:49:12 | dpro | Galois: hmmm ... I really appreciate your generous offer ;) |
| 14:49:18 | Galois | no problem dude |
| 14:49:22 | RedBreva | dpro: Is there a key combo to display the pitch screen in iPod, or do you have to go thro' the contect menu? |
| 14:49:39 | dpro | you'll need Mikachu's patch to enable it |
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| 14:53:19 | dpro | RedBreva: which is here http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox_ipod-pitch-menu.patch |
| 14:53:52 | RedBreva | Thanks... |
| 14:54:38 | dpro | RedBreva: then it's in the shutdown menu, though a keycombo to directly access it from wps might be more convienient ... |
| 14:55:42 | JdGordon | doe any1 like the idea of going to a random directory once the current playlist is finished and want to test my patch? |
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| 14:59:35 | RedBreva | does the phrase 'Short ScrollFwd' and 'Long Scroll Fwd' make sence in context of 0.1% / 1% increments of pitch? (rather than 'Up' and 'Hold Up' for key based units) |
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| 15:00:25 | linuxstb | dpro: Are you still looking for a 1.0 firmware for your ipod? |
| 15:00:52 | dpro | linuxstb: yup preferably for video 60Gb |
| 15:01:05 | linuxstb | Which operating systems do you have access to? |
| 15:01:16 | dpro | gnu linux, freebsd |
| 15:01:56 | * | dpro doesn't know if there's a difference in the firmware for 30/60gb videos |
| 15:04:54 | dpro | linuxstb: my flatmate has a 30GB video but hfs+ formatted, but the firmware partition should be essentially the same with the win version shouldn't it (just on a different partition) |
| 15:05:46 | linuxstb | Yes, but HFS+ ipods have Apple partition tables... |
| 15:05:54 | dpro | IIRC it's on the 2nd partition in the hfs / mac disklabel version not the 1st |
| 15:05:58 | linuxstb | But I think the Linux kernel can handle it. |
| 15:06:04 | dpro | linuxstb: no problem |
| 15:06:14 | RedBreva | Pitch screen work on Recorders, and Ondio? The manual currently wraps the section in a SWCODEC only, but the code has key presses for these MASCODEC platforms |
| 15:06:25 | linuxstb | It's easy to find - it will be the only 80MB partition on the disk... |
| 15:06:32 | dpro | linuxstb: but I'm not sure if she still has 1.0, I think she's an upgrade person ;) |
| 15:06:46 | linuxstb | Does she have a Mac? |
| 15:07:00 | dpro | about 4 of them ;) |
| 15:07:33 | linuxstb | It's extremely easy to find the firmware image from the Mac OS version of the ipod updater. See here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#e_Copy_out_the_firmware_partitio |
| 15:08:00 | linuxstb | She probably has the old versions of the updaters installed already. |
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| 15:08:32 | linuxstb | Those Firmware-X-Y-Z files are equivalent to bootpartition.bin |
| 15:08:53 | dpro | now I need to find an old version of the updater and wait for her to come back home ... |
| 15:09:19 | linuxstb | RedBreva: The pitch screen worked on HWCODEC first, and was then adapted to SWCODEC quite recently. |
| 15:09:28 | dpro | linuxcstb: ah excellent, so it should be equally easy on win just start setup and everything will be in /temp or windows/temp or so ? |
| 15:09:47 | linuxstb | Not quite - they are stored as resources in the updater .exe |
| 15:09:59 | linuxstb | So you need a tool to extract resources from an .exe |
| 15:10:05 | dpro | linuxstb: aargh .. why do they hate me so much ;) |
| 15:10:34 | dpro | linuxstb: BTW speaking of pitch, I dj'ed saturday night with 2 ipods and found quite a few glitches |
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| 15:10:59 | linuxstb | I read your comments in IRC afterwards. Which codec were you using? |
| 15:11:29 | dpro | linuxstb: there are dropouts when playing a file at different from original speed |
| 15:11:33 | dpro | linuxstb: mostly mp3 |
| 15:11:56 | dpro | linuxstb: maybe only mp3 there are only very few oggs on my ipod ATM |
| 15:12:18 | linuxstb | mp3 is only just realtime already.... So trying to play one faster than the original speed is asking for pauses. FLAC is your best option at the moment. |
| 15:12:24 | amiconn | RedBreva: Putch screen does exist for hwcodec for a long time. Recorders surely have it, Ondios used to not have it due to lack of buttons. Now they should also have it in the wps context menu. Can check tonight |
| 15:13:36 | dpro | linuxstb: interestingly enough I'm quite sure I also got some dropouts playing slower than rt (but only _very_ occasionally) |
| 15:13:48 | markun | linuxstb: is ac3 realtime on the ipod? |
| 15:13:59 | preglow | yes |
| 15:14:06 | preglow | by a nice margin |
| 15:14:19 | linuxstb | It's possibly the fastest lossy codec? |
| 15:14:22 | dpro | linuxstb: wasn't much of a problem though, since it was a bar place so I just changed the music style to lounge and dubb stuff with graceful intros and endings >;-> |
| 15:14:23 | * | amiconn wants optimised mp3 on ipod :/ |
| 15:14:28 | * | dpro too |
| 15:14:35 | preglow | linuxstb: probably on ipod, yes |
| 15:14:56 | preglow | that is |
| 15:15:01 | preglow | it is struggling a bit at 448kbs |
| 15:15:02 | zigford | how does ogg compare |
| 15:15:02 | amiconn | Someone buy Toni1 an ipod :/ |
| 15:15:27 | * | dpro wants reverse playback and scrubbing on the clickwheel ... how much bounty $$$ do I need to find ;) |
| 15:15:58 | dpro | zigford: ogg is hardly optimised ATM AFAIK |
| 15:16:10 | nudelyn | what will Toni1 do if bougth an ipod? |
| 15:16:12 | preglow | well, it does have some arm assembler |
| 15:16:15 | preglow | ahh |
| 15:16:16 | preglow | that reminds |
| 15:16:17 | preglow | me |
| 15:16:31 | zigford | sadness overcomes me |
| 15:16:32 | preglow | tomal posted some arm opts for both ogg and mp3 as par of his ifp port |
| 15:16:40 | linuxstb | He did? |
| 15:16:51 | preglow | yes |
| 15:17:01 | preglow | haven't had time to look at them |
| 15:18:46 | amiconn | preglow: What happened to s/pdif recording, btw? |
| 15:18:47 | RedBreva | amiconn: Thanks, you confirmed what I thought, the manual does not document that screen at all for MAS codecs, so I will correct that (have the key presses for recorder, ondio, x5, iriver and iPod). How about Player?? |
| 15:19:15 | amiconn | Player doesn't have pitch, as its MAS doesn't allow it |
| 15:19:35 | RedBreva | Cool, thanks. |
| 15:19:36 | linuxstb | preglow: Do you have a URL? This is the only patch I can find, and there are no opts: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3046 |
| 15:19:53 | amiconn | You might add the fact that changing the pitch on hwcodec causes a tiny dropout |
| 15:20:10 | RedBreva | OK |
| 15:20:20 | amiconn | This is due to how pitch works on MAS, not avoidable |
| 15:21:05 | amiconn | We simply lie to the MAS about its clock. That effectively overclocks the MAS when pitching up |
| 15:21:30 | preglow | amiconn: i don't have rockbox time these days |
| 15:21:34 | dpro | amiconn: ouch ... any long term studies on the side effects ? |
| 15:21:37 | preglow | amiconn: and i bumped into problems i didn't understand |
| 15:21:56 | preglow | linuxstb: http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~tmal/rockbox/0410_patches/ |
| 15:21:57 | amiconn | No known side effects, even when clocking at twice the frequency for extended times |
| 15:23:19 | preglow | amiconn: i'm trying to enable the spdif parity/symbol error interrupt to disable recording when found, but then i need to enable the second interrupt controller, and i'm just not able to trigger the correct interrupt |
| 15:23:52 | dpro | amiconn: nice |
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| 15:24:22 | amiconn | preglow: Hmm. |
| 15:24:44 | * | amiconn should really go buy that toslink->mini adapter |
| 15:24:45 | preglow | i _always_ get PDIR2FULL or something |
| 15:24:54 | preglow | no matter what interrupts i unmask |
| 15:24:57 | dpro | ok looking at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX it suggests that video 30/60 firmware images are identical ... that's good news for me |
| 15:25:16 | * | amiconn remember sthat you have to set the vectors properly |
| 15:25:49 | preglow | well, the vectors are all set in crt0.S |
| 15:25:53 | BHSPitMonkey | damned vectors |
| 15:25:57 | preglow | so as long as i set INTBASE correctly, it should be fine |
| 15:26:07 | preglow | and i do set it correctly, afaik, at least linus agreed |
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| 15:29:01 | preglow | amiconn: you also need to set the interrupt mask and interrupt enable/priority separately, so you won't get an interrupt unless you've set a matching pair, so i do enable stuff correctly, it's just that whatever i unmask, i get the same bloody interrupt |
| 15:29:15 | preglow | amiconn: sometimes at address 0x000000XX |
| 15:29:18 | preglow | which is weird... |
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| 15:47:52 | amiconn | preglow: Where in crt0.S is the interrupt conroller 2 initialised? I can't see it... |
| 15:47:56 | dpro | hmmm ... if I could only find a way to mount the damn .dmg I got from apple's site ... but it's not recognized as a hfs image |
| 15:49:14 | preglow | amiconn: i misspoke, i mean system.c, and it isn't initialised, the vectors are just set up |
| 15:49:22 | amiconn | Also, and address 0x000000xx isn't all that weird. The coldfire has several address spaces, and such an address would be the interrupt vector in the interrupt address space |
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| 15:55:17 | linuxstb | dpro: Try googling for dmg2iso or dmg2iso.pl |
| 15:55:49 | amiconn | Also, INTBASE needs to be set to 64, and I can't find that, as well as spurvec |
| 15:56:09 | PaulJam | JdGordon: concerning your shuffle folders patch: does it only shuffle through folders that are directly in the root directory? because for me it always jumps to "Alter Bridge", which is the first folder in my music directory. |
| 15:56:52 | preglow | amiconn: i've set both INTBASE and spurvec in my local copy |
| 15:56:56 | JdGordon | im not sure.. it should randomly choose a folder.. but ye, i keep getting the same file also |
| 15:57:16 | preglow | amiconn: what would a nice spurvec value be? |
| 15:57:19 | preglow | i've got 1, for some reason |
| 15:58:27 | BHSPitLappy | does the id3 browser work on iPods? |
| 15:58:35 | amiconn | We need to assign an unused vector number to spurvec, and give it its proper name and reserve the default function |
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| 15:58:55 | amiconn | There are some more interrupt sources from int controller 2 missing |
| 15:59:06 | JdGordon | PaulJam: u tried the 2nd patch right? not the first 1? |
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| 16:00:08 | preglow | amiconn: btw, is SPURVEC offset by INTBASE or 0 ? |
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| 16:00:46 | dpro | linuxstb: didn't work either ... anyone on osux willing to turn a dmg into a tar.bz2 for me ? |
| 16:01:02 | preglow | amiconn: there already is a "Spurious" entry in the vector table, but it's below 64 |
| 16:01:07 | amiconn | I read the description as a plain vector number, i.e. 0 based |
| 16:01:12 | preglow | yep, me too |
| 16:01:20 | BHSPitLappy | I've successfully used dmg2iso in the past. |
| 16:02:27 | amiconn | preglow: Where? |
| 16:02:28 | PaulJam | JdGordon: yes, the second one |
| 16:02:35 | dpro | BHSPitLappy: it tells me the archive may be corrupted ... if it's encrypted (how useless) I need a passphrase ... |
| 16:04:31 | JdGordon | PaulJam: hmm... damn... i cant tihnk of a better way to "randomize" it.. i blame rockbox for it not working :D |
| 16:06:08 | lostlogic | *sigh* I've been such a slacker on rockbox coding the last week or so. |
| 16:06:46 | preglow | amiconn: grep for Spurious |
| 16:07:05 | PaulJam | JdGordon: another observation: if i change to the next directory by doing a short and a long press on the ffwd button it goes to the next directory. I.e. in this case it behaves differently than it does when the last track of the folder is over. |
| 16:07:10 | preglow | amiconn: seems like it's only got a string entry... |
| 16:07:56 | JdGordon | PaulJam: is that with it set to yes or random? |
| 16:08:27 | PaulJam | random |
| 16:08:28 | * | JdGordon didnt even know about that shortcut :D |
| 16:08:53 | JdGordon | is it supposed to be able to do that? |
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| 16:09:34 | amiconn | preglow: Seems the interrupt reservation needs some work... |
| 16:09:45 | * | Febs docks lostlogic's pay. |
| 16:09:45 | preglow | deed |
| 16:10:40 | JdGordon | PaulJam: it does it with it set to yes no or random.. so im assuming its supposed to do that? so its a diff pice of code that needs to be fiddled with |
| 16:10:55 | preglow | amiconn: but yeah, i can put up a nicer spdif patch some day, but i'm starting to give up making it work for 3.0 |
| 16:10:59 | amiconn | Spurious is vector 24 in the string table |
| 16:11:20 | amiconn | :( |
| 16:11:36 | preglow | i don't have time right now, and i can't see it changing for at least a week |
| 16:12:04 | preglow | today i plan to prioritise barbecuing and drinking beer, shoot me :) |
| 16:12:45 | * | dpro hands preglow a sixpack and pats back |
| 16:13:09 | Febs | Speaking of beer, how much would it take to bribe you to write the sine wave sweep plugin for me? |
| 16:13:41 | preglow | what features would you like? |
| 16:13:53 | dpro | Febs: a sinewave sweep ? as in sine generator, bandlimited with variable frequency ? |
| 16:14:09 | dpro | febs: hell use a wave and the pitch ;) |
| 16:14:14 | preglow | dpro: what, a non-bandlimited sine wave generator? |
| 16:14:17 | preglow | doesn't sound very useful |
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| 16:14:40 | preglow | Febs: if it's nothing too fancy, it shouldn't be very hard |
| 16:14:44 | Febs | The feature that a plug in could give that a wave could not is that it could display the frequency. |
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| 16:15:20 | Febs | Right. I'm just looking through something like what you find on a home theater setup DVD ... |
| 16:15:31 | preglow | Febs: you mean the instantaneous frequency or just upper and lower bounds? |
| 16:15:35 | XavierGr | lostlogic: here? |
| 16:16:00 | Febs | sweep through audible frequencies and display the frequency that is being played (which is what I suppose you mean by instantaneous) |
| 16:16:06 | preglow | yep |
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| 16:16:32 | Febs | What I picture is this: sit in my car. Play the frequency sweep. Check SPL meter to see where there are problem frequencies. Adjust with parametric EQ. |
| 16:16:47 | preglow | ok, so a fairly long sweep |
| 16:16:52 | preglow | i figure this should be easy |
| 16:17:05 | preglow | i'll give it a shot later, if i have time |
| 16:17:10 | Febs | Yes, maybe with adjustment as to the duration of the sweep. |
| 16:17:22 | dpro | If anyone is willing to enlighten me on how I can feed the pcm buffer from a plugin ... |
| 16:17:34 | preglow | well, lots of plugins do, so it should be easy |
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| 16:17:47 | Febs | I figured it would be easy for you. It's probably simple enough that I could figure out how to code it myself, given the time. Which I don't have. |
| 16:17:51 | * | dpro is still in the audio_pause() stage ... |
| 16:18:00 | Febs | By the way, I'm serious about the beer. :) |
| 16:18:12 | preglow | Febs: haha, let's see if it gets done first |
| 16:18:21 | preglow | it would be a useful plugin anyway |
| 16:18:48 | Febs | Right. It will become my standard response to the "please share your EQ settings" people. |
| 16:19:28 | dpro | preglow: which rather simple plugin uses sound ? |
| 16:19:40 | preglow | none of the rather simple ones :> |
| 16:19:48 | dpro | preglow: I don't really feel like wading through rockboy code ... |
| 16:20:03 | dpro | shame shame so that would also be the first simple one to use sound ... |
| 16:21:02 | markun | dpro: metronome |
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| 16:22:15 | preglow | pcm_play_data, apparently |
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| 16:23:00 | dpro | markun: which doesn't do anything on ipod ... |
| 16:23:10 | XavierGr | Reminds me that I have someday to sit and expand the metronome a little bit... |
| 16:23:18 | preglow | Febs: not everyone has spl meters, though |
| 16:23:24 | lostlogic | wait, why doesn't pcm_play_data do anything on ipod? |
| 16:23:31 | lostlogic | or should I say "since when"? |
| 16:24:01 | dpro | ah here we go ... |
| 16:24:10 | markun | lostlogic: maybe he's just talking about the metronome plugin not working |
| 16:24:10 | dpro | chair<->kbd problem |
| 16:24:44 | preglow | Febs: though i could make a crude one using a mic standard mic, of course... |
| 16:24:47 | preglow | it'd be inaccurate as hell |
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| 16:25:54 | Febs | True that not everyone has SPL meters, but I think that the plugin would be useful even to those just listening to the volume of the output and listening for sudden peaks or drops in volume. |
| 16:26:08 | preglow | true enough, if the resonances are large enough |
| 16:26:12 | preglow | which they often are in cars, at least |
| 16:26:41 | preglow | but i don't know how accurate the freq reading will be |
| 16:26:51 | preglow | though it should be possible to find the latency, i'd guess |
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| 16:27:35 | preglow | lostlogic: or what do you say? using pcm_play_data, how hard would it be knowing how long it'll be until the audio block will be passed to the dac? |
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| 16:30:59 | amiconn | preglow: Is the s/pdif recording patch on the tracker? |
| 16:31:02 | Febs | XavierGr, a visual cue would be a nice feature for the metronome. |
| 16:31:03 | preglow | amiconn: |
| 16:31:12 | preglow | amiconn: nope, www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox |
| 16:31:18 | preglow | amiconn: it's a bit old, though, but works for me, mostly |
| 16:31:27 | XavierGr | Febs: and another tone for measures |
| 16:31:41 | XavierGr | and maybe a tone generator |
| 16:31:51 | XavierGr | and triplets maybe |
| 16:32:11 | lostlogic | preglow: if you use pcm_play_data, the block should play immediately |
| 16:32:17 | XavierGr | but first I have to read the code and I am a bit lazy.... |
| 16:32:29 | preglow | XavierGr: useful tone generators aren't trivial |
| 16:32:35 | preglow | and i'm shooting for trivial if i am to have time for it now |
| 16:32:41 | amiconn | preglow: CONDIF_CODEC ?? |
| 16:33:07 | markun | And a rockbox DTMF generator so you can call people with the rockbox address book :) |
| 16:33:29 | XavierGr | from what I guess yes, but I don't know a lot about those things. I must sit and read the metronome code to see how I can adapt it. |
| 16:33:35 | preglow | amiconn: well, if it doesn't complain for swcodec, i haven't picked it up |
| 16:34:00 | amiconn | It would remove the option from the menu for archos :/ |
| 16:34:09 | preglow | amiconn: sure, like i said, not tested for archops |
| 16:34:11 | preglow | archos too |
| 16:34:22 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 16:34:29 | preglow | XavierGr: the number of useful waveforms for measuring aren't that large anyway |
| 16:34:56 | preglow | you've pretty much got sine sweeps and noise variations |
| 16:35:07 | XavierGr | indeed |
| 16:36:28 | XavierGr | wtf! I have to go to my dentist! :P |
| 16:36:32 | preglow | congrats |
| 16:36:53 | XavierGr | later all! |
| 16:37:05 | markun | ciao |
| 16:38:20 | * | amiconn thinks that preglow does have too many unfinished patches sitting around... |
| 16:38:20 | XavierGr | I just hope that it won't hurt! |
| 16:38:37 | preglow | amiconn: no shit |
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| 16:39:55 | PaulJam | I have a problem with a WPS-tag: in the wpsfile i have the following line: %ca, d. b Yc |
| 16:40:23 | PaulJam | but on the WPS i get only: Mo, 08. Mai |
| 16:40:50 | PaulJam | the year is missing, am i doind something wrong? |
| 16:41:34 | * | amiconn is a bit demotivated :/ |
| 16:41:58 | amiconn | Everytime we have a feature freeze, the commit rate goes down. Way down |
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| 16:42:25 | preglow | certainly seems to |
| 16:42:33 | amiconn | It seems many (not all) coders don't care about squashing bug :-( |
| 16:42:39 | amiconn | +s |
| 16:43:18 | preglow | i don't mind squashing bugs that affect me |
| 16:43:33 | preglow | but my fix-stuff-that-i-dont-really-care-about quote has been eaten by spdif |
| 16:43:38 | preglow | and now i've got to go, tata |
| 16:43:47 | preglow | s/quote/quota/ |
| 16:44:53 | Genre9mp3 | PaulJam: maybe needs a space between "Y" and last "c"? |
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| 16:45:07 | Genre9mp3 | not sure though...never tried it |
| 16:48:40 | bluebrother | support questions in the tracker are getting annoying :( |
| 16:49:53 | bluebrother | maybe the website menu should have a "support" entry which explains how to get help? |
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| 16:53:46 | Genre9mp3 | I just added colour versions of iCatcher in the patchtracker |
| 16:53:50 | Genre9mp3 | screenshot: |
| 16:53:54 | Genre9mp3 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11590 |
| 16:53:56 | linuxstb | Genre9mp3: Regarding the %fc tag (you mention it in the patch tracker) - yes, it works for AAC. Look at DancePuffDuo for an example of a WPS supporting all the codecs. |
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| 16:54:23 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb...ok..I was about to test that |
| 16:55:08 | Genre9mp3 | But the documentation page about customizing the wps isn't updated I think |
| 16:56:10 | linuxstb | Genre9mp3: It is here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS - from MP1 up to AIFF |
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| 16:56:25 | Genre9mp3 | hmmm...it says: %?fc<mp1|mp2|mp3|wav|vorbis|flac|mpc|a52|wavpack|unknown> but then in the codec order it includes AAC and others... |
| 16:56:40 | linuxstb | Yes, I just noticed the first line... |
| 16:56:45 | linuxstb | I'll fix it now. |
| 16:57:43 | Genre9mp3 | hmmm...but, I'm not sure if I can add 4 more codec pics (AAC,ALLAC,Shorten,AIFF) for the non colour targets...because of the 52 bmp limit... |
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| 16:58:17 | PaulJam_ | Genre9mp3: with the additional space it also doesn't work |
| 16:58:22 | Genre9mp3 | I preload 3 more bmps (the lines) for the non colour versions |
| 16:58:29 | daurnimator | hi all |
| 16:58:36 | daurnimator | does any1 know about the gigabeat? |
| 16:58:54 | linuxstb | What's your question? |
| 16:59:09 | daurnimator | where can i get one? |
| 16:59:09 | daurnimator | :P |
| 16:59:13 | daurnimator | i need a Gigabeat F41 |
| 16:59:23 | daurnimator | and i also want to know, has it been exploited? |
| 16:59:25 | Genre9mp3 | PaulJam: I don't know why...never tried the date tags actually |
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| 17:00:36 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: if I have to leave some codec icons out would be a problem? |
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| 17:00:48 | linuxstb | Genre9mp3: I would say so. |
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| 17:01:31 | Genre9mp3 | Would be a possibility for the 52 bitmap limit to change somwhow? |
| 17:01:59 | linuxstb | daurnimator: What do you mean by "exploited" ? There is a Rockbox port underway for the gigabeats, and they seem to be making good progress, even though they are still in the very early stages. |
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| 17:03:05 | daurnimator | is there a website with info? |
| 17:03:10 | Bagder | funny guys on the linux-arm-kernel list: |
| 17:03:17 | Bagder | > > Please do provide some pointers. |
| 17:03:24 | Bagder | > char *ptr; |
| 17:03:26 | Bagder | :-P |
| 17:03:37 | linuxstb | That's just one pointer... |
| 17:03:52 | dpro | char **s; |
| 17:03:54 | Bagder | indeed, couldn't even make a proper reply! |
| 17:04:05 | markun | daurnimator: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatInfo |
| 17:05:38 | Genre9mp3 | yes...if I add all the codec icons, I will have to leave 2 codecs out for the Mini & H100 versions :( |
| 17:06:43 | Genre9mp3 | wait....no.... |
| 17:06:48 | Genre9mp3 | I can do that! |
| 17:06:49 | Genre9mp3 | :) |
| 17:07:07 | PaulJam_ | Genre9mp3: maybe you could make the filetype icon part of the backdrop and just write text on top of it |
| 17:08:02 | Genre9mp3 | Would be a solution I have to check...I'm worried a bit though for the alignment |
| 17:08:50 | Genre9mp3 | but anyway, I can add them all for both colour and non-colour targets after-all... |
| 17:08:56 | Genre9mp3 | I just checked the files... |
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| 17:21:17 | * | dpro will try the arm asm patches now and see if the dropouts go away at speed > rt |
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| 17:25:18 | dpro | anyone tried this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5226 ? |
| 17:27:34 | linuxstb | Yes - it's slows things down very very slightly. |
| 17:27:39 | linuxstb | ^it |
| 17:28:14 | dpro | linuxstb: hmmm not exactly what I'm after :) |
| 17:28:44 | linuxstb | Nope. |
| 17:29:38 | ender` | there should be a big "May cause headache!" warning before playing Doom on H120 :p |
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| 17:36:30 | Mikachu | linuxstb: what about just doing one or the other? (icode or longcalls) |
| 17:38:28 | goffa | anyone have a case reccomendation for the h140? |
| 17:38:29 | linuxstb | That's the problem - we want icode without long calls and gcc doesn't make it easy. But amiconn seems to be making some progress along those lines. |
| 17:38:40 | Mikachu | ah okay |
| 17:38:47 | Mikachu | what about just disabling icode then? |
| 17:38:59 | linuxstb | That's what that patch does. |
| 17:39:07 | Mikachu | so it doesn't remove longcalls? |
| 17:39:46 | linuxstb | Yes, it does remove long calls. We don't want them. |
| 17:40:17 | Mikachu | so what i was trying to say was, how does only removing icode but keeping longcalls compare? |
| 17:41:00 | linuxstb | OK - I didn't try that. It should be easy to test, just by not applying the patch to tools/configure. |
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| 18:42:49 | qwm | hmm. |
| 18:46:31 | qwm | when will rockbox have gamepad support? |
| 18:46:32 | qwm | :P |
| 18:47:12 | Genre9mp3 | qwm: wait first for the USBOTG support...;) |
| 18:47:42 | qwm | hehe. |
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| 19:09:59 | amiconn | ender`: I will add gamma support to the grayscale lib. Maybe I manage this before 3.0 (in case we postpone further). Should bug-fix the headaches |
| 19:10:25 | ender` | wow, really? |
| 19:10:44 | amiconn | I realised that the various LCD the grayscale library runs (and will run) on have considerably different gamma |
| 19:11:57 | amiconn | When using archos as a reference (medium gamma), the H1x0 LCD has lower gamma (= darker gray shades), and the ipod mini LCD has higher gamma (= brighter gray shades) |
| 19:12:18 | Mikachu | how does brightness, contrast and gamma relate? |
| 19:13:12 | Mikachu | ah, gamma looks more nonlinear than the other two |
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| 19:15:40 | amiconn | ender`: Yes, really. It will happen. When it happens depends on several factors: |
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| 19:16:46 | amiconn | (1) My own time. (2) How many bugs need fixing before 3.0, and whether others help in fixing. (3) whether 3.0 will be postponed further |
| 19:19:33 | amiconn | preglow: There's a new comment concerning the m68k-elf-gcc build bug on amd64: "...Not reproducible" (!!!!) |
| 19:19:36 | amiconn | wtf... |
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| 19:25:58 | Lear | did a quick google and found three different reports on that, all on 64-bit systems... :) |
| 19:27:58 | Lear | also found a note that binutils-2.15 apparantly doesn't have that build error on the 68040-version of libgcc. |
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| 19:36:00 | amiconn | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=23442 |
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| 19:38:00 | XavierGr | Hello again |
| 19:40:39 | dpro | Xavier: re (as in re: not 'pe) |
| 19:40:50 | Gargamale | Sup peeps |
| 19:41:04 | Gargamale | Not the yellow chick marshmallow crazy things |
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| 19:52:53 | lush | hello>? |
| 19:53:06 | lush | anyone home? |
| 19:53:20 | lush | =/ |
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| 19:57:59 | Gargamale | lush: No, please dont eat our porridge while we are away, kthx |
| 19:58:11 | markun | lush: you have a problem? |
| 19:58:16 | lush | well i just had a question or tow |
| 19:58:19 | lush | *two |
| 19:58:28 | Gargamale | I might be able to help |
| 19:58:37 | Mikachu | i doubt it |
| 19:58:47 | lush | i was curious how the fw on the ipods are working |
| 19:58:52 | lush | are they stable |
| 19:58:53 | Gargamale | Mikachu: Thanks for the vote of confidence |
| 19:59:00 | Mikachu | just kidding :) |
| 19:59:03 | Gargamale | lush: Scrolling is slow but stable, yes |
| 19:59:14 | lush | and the ipod video? |
| 19:59:18 | Gargamale | Yeah |
| 19:59:20 | Gargamale | Thats what I have |
| 19:59:26 | lush | how do you like it? |
| 19:59:36 | lush | i have an iriver hp120 |
| 19:59:40 | lush | and i love the new fw |
| 19:59:41 | Gargamale | The scrolling and lack of video support are my only complaints |
| 19:59:46 | dpro | grrr now I finally have short access to a osux machine, but there is no Updates dir in Contents/Resources in the mpkg archive of ipod updater .... |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:12 | * | dpro tried 2005-sth and 2006-01-10 |
| 20:00:46 | lush | lack of video support? |
| 20:01:04 | Gargamale | Cant play videos |
| 20:01:07 | Gargamale | No video player |
| 20:01:14 | Gargamale | But you can boot into the apple fw to do that |
| 20:01:21 | lush | thats uber lame |
| 20:01:25 | Gargamale | Which is what I do |
| 20:01:36 | lush | how bout the battery life? |
| 20:01:40 | Gargamale | lush: It will be worked on eventually, I assume |
| 20:01:45 | lush | i got an extra 5 hrs with the new fw |
| 20:01:48 | Gargamale | Battery life I find is the same or better |
| 20:01:52 | dpro | Gargameale: and 1.1 won't play videos right that weren't made with qt pro (or bought from apple store) |
| 20:02:09 | Gargamale | dpro: The rockbox fw? |
| 20:02:19 | Mikachu | lush: it's not like it's easy to implement video playing on undocumented hardware |
| 20:02:20 | dpro | gargamale: the apple fw |
| 20:02:28 | lush | of course i know the hassle |
| 20:02:44 | lush | i wasnt expecting seamless usage |
| 20:02:52 | Gargamale | dpro: I have found no such behavior, I had no problems with Apple FW 1.1 playing videos I made in ffmpegx |
| 20:03:01 | dpro | I _need_ a 1.0 bootpartition.bin but it's not in the updater as described here -> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
| 20:03:28 | dpro | well here it stops after 20 secs, then continues after another 5 but no sound ... |
| 20:03:32 | lush | so then do you still use itunes for song uploades? |
| 20:04:31 | dpro | Gargamale: what ffmpeg cmd line are you using ? |
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| 20:05:24 | dpro | gargamale: see also http://digg.com/apple/iPod_Update_Causing_Major_Headache_for_Some_Video_Owners |
| 20:05:32 | lush | wow when did suport for the iaudio come out? |
| 20:05:45 | Mikachu | News |
| 20:05:46 | Mikachu | 2006-03-28: Sound on iAudio X5! |
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| 20:14:57 | kkurbjun | is there an easy way to tell the total plugin size from the map files without adding all the sections up individually? |
| 20:21:26 | Bagder | check for plugin_end_addr |
| 20:21:46 | Bagder | and plugin_start_addr of course |
| 20:25:38 | kkurbjun | great, thanks |
| 20:27:07 | kkurbjun | the size limit is 512 correct? |
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| 20:27:42 | Mikachu | i think most targets, if not all, use that |
| 20:28:31 | hardeep | lostlogic: the pause/stop fix looks good. haven't been able to reproduce the problem |
| 20:29:54 | lostlogic | hardeep: it's a hack, but it'll suffice for now. |
| 20:29:58 | dpro | hardeep: you mean the previously kind of random delays before it actually pause/resumed ? |
| 20:31:05 | hardeep | dpro: no, the system hang when you tried to stop while playback was paused |
| 20:31:34 | amiconn | kkurbjun: 512KB for all swcodec targets, 32KB for archos |
| 20:32:47 | kkurbjun | ok, thanks |
| 20:33:01 | dpro | hardeep: ah ok ... I never experienced that |
| 20:34:15 | dpro | aaarg ... no matter what switches I use in ffmpeg, I always get freezes and loose the sound in the 1.1 apple fw ... but there is no 1.0 in the updater pkgs I dlded |
| 20:35:49 | XavierGr | lostlogic: I was wandering if you heard the 2 samples I sent you? |
| 20:35:52 | Lear | lostlogic: regarding the long seek problem (I think :), have you looked at the todo I added? More specifically, why not simply set cur_ti->start_pos to ci.curpos in initialize_buffer_fill? That's the way it was, before the refurbishing at least... |
| 20:37:02 | RedBreva | Can someone change http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5320 from a bug report to a Patch please? |
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| 20:38:10 | amiconn | RedBreva: done |
| 20:38:16 | lostlogic | Lear: then you never fully fill the filebuffer, you always leave BYTES_PLAYED_WHILE_FILLING empty, not the _best_ reason, but I hate to leave something like that on the table. |
| 20:38:21 | godzirra | hiya folks... anyone know why my wps file goes away when I turn my 120 gets turned off then back on? |
| 20:38:26 | lostlogic | XavierGr: nope, I suck at life, _hardcore_ lately |
| 20:38:35 | RedBreva | amiconn: Thanks |
| 20:39:01 | XavierGr | np, I just wasnt to know your opinion, maybe I am a little bitchy... :P |
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| 20:39:26 | lostlogic | XavierGr: it's still in my inbox marked N so I'll get to it... |
| 20:39:31 | dpro | RedBreva: what does it do exactly ? and can it be used on ipod ? |
| 20:39:37 | Lear | lostlogic: but don't you get a completely wrong start_pos, when buffering the next segment of a really large file? |
| 20:39:54 | lostlogic | Lear: ahhhhhh, that could well be. |
| 20:40:26 | lostlogic | stupid damn tracks longer than the filebuffer. |
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| 20:40:31 | Lear | Might explain bug 5305... |
| 20:40:36 | marc_in_lux | good evening |
| 20:40:44 | dpro | lostlogic: hehe |
| 20:41:05 | amiconn | lostlogic: Get used to them, and better fix behaviour for them. :) |
| 20:41:13 | Mikachu | maybe you should run with my buffer sizes to shake some bugs out :) |
| 20:41:19 | marc_in_lux | is there a smart way to create a playlist with the items coming sorted by filedate? I copy podcasts on my player and want to listen to the newest ones first. |
| 20:41:29 | lostlogic | amiconn: oh, I know −− I Just don't have any, and there are therefore more likely to be bugs in them. |
| 20:41:31 | amiconn | They are standard on archos, and one day we will unify playback engines... |
| 20:44:28 | dpro | marc_in_lux: bash ? |
| 20:44:42 | marc_in_lux | right now, windows. |
| 20:44:55 | marc_in_lux | in bash I know how to do it |
| 20:45:14 | marc_in_lux | but because I tend to use my windows laptop, I'd rather have the ipod do it. |
| 20:45:19 | * | dpro knows jack about win, screams cygwin, cygwin |
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| 20:45:53 | Mikachu | marc_in_lux: put the date in the filename first? |
| 20:45:54 | * | marc_in_lux wonders if I can just call a bash script in cygwin. but would still prefer rockbox doing it |
| 20:45:57 | godzirra | Anyone have any ideas? |
| 20:46:17 | marc_in_lux | Mickachu, podcasts just come with their names... |
| 20:46:31 | dpro | marc_in_lux: you can use bash scripts with cygwin (that's kind of the whole point) |
| 20:46:33 | Mikachu | hence the verb "put" |
| 20:46:33 | marc_in_lux | there's no easy way in rockbox, is there? I'm new here... |
| 20:46:52 | marc_in_lux | dpro, just call 'bash scriptname'? |
| 20:47:29 | dpro | marc_in_lux: even ./script should work if chmodded +x (cygwin includes bash AFAIR) |
| 20:48:16 | dpro | marc_in_lux: I haven't checked the API but I don't know if the modification date can easily found out by a plugin currently |
| 20:48:28 | marc_in_lux | ok, so how do I call cygwin? I actually have it on this machine, but only used for X... |
| 20:49:26 | dpro | there should be a bash.exe somewhere |
| 20:49:37 | marc_in_lux | bash.exe scriptname, then? |
| 20:49:39 | Mikachu | you'll want to run cygwin.bat in the cygwin dir |
| 20:50:14 | dpro | marc_in_lux: as I said my windos skills suck to say the least |
| 20:50:21 | preglow | amiconn: remarkable... |
| 20:50:26 | preglow | amiconn: i know of several people that could reproduce it |
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| 20:50:49 | marc_in_lux | dpro, so do mine. Except those for fixing things, removing spyware and stuff... those things you need daily ;-) |
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| 20:51:09 | marc_in_lux | but the man wants me to use it, so I do... |
| 20:52:06 | amiconn | marc_in_lux: You can sort files in th ebrowser by date, or 'by newest date' (== reverse date order) |
| 20:52:34 | marc_in_lux | amiconn, found that. but it didn't seem to stick when creating the playlist |
| 20:52:40 | amiconn | If you do this, and do have shuffle enabled, starting a track should build a playlist with your desired order |
| 20:52:55 | amiconn | Oh, it doesn't? Hmm.... |
| 20:53:04 | marc_in_lux | but i'll test it again. |
| 20:53:25 | marc_in_lux | why would I want to have shuffle enabled? |
| 20:53:38 | amiconn | s/do/don't/ |
| 20:53:52 | godzirra | So does anyone know why my wps file keeps resetting to the default? |
| 20:53:52 | amiconn | Hmm, the playlist mechanism might ignore the directory sort order... |
| 20:53:55 | amiconn | hardeep? |
| 20:54:20 | amiconn | godzirra: Where is your .wps file located? |
| 20:54:36 | amiconn | You need to put it in /.rockbox/wps in order to make it permanent |
| 20:54:38 | marc_in_lux | ehm. To clarify: I want to travel across directories. I have multiple dirs with podcasts, and I want a playlist spanning those |
| 20:54:51 | marc_in_lux | _within_ a directory, it's ok. |
| 20:55:02 | amiconn | Hmm, multiple dirs... |
| 20:55:02 | preglow | linuxstb: did you try the vorbis patch? |
| 20:55:41 | marc_in_lux | but, I'll do it in bash at the time of syncing. I may even setup rsync to move the podcasts over, when I'm at it. |
| 20:55:51 | XavierGr | OMG there are so many bug reports in the tracker!!!! |
| 20:55:57 | godzirra | ahh thank you amiconn. |
| 20:56:06 | XavierGr | And many of them seem obsolete |
| 20:56:26 | amiconn | pixelma: Got any freezes today? (hope not) |
| 20:56:52 | pixelma | no I haven't - though trying out wavplay |
| 20:58:44 | hardeep | marc_in_lux: how are you creating the dynamic playlist? |
| 20:59:05 | marc_in_lux | hardeep: ? |
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| 20:59:49 | hardeep | marc_in_lux: are you doing a playlist->insert on a directory to create your playlist? |
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| 21:00:38 | marc_in_lux | yep |
| 21:00:42 | hardeep | marc_in_lux: or are you using the auto change directory feature |
| 21:00:47 | hardeep | ah, okay |
| 21:00:53 | tucoz | bluebrother, around? |
| 21:03:24 | bluebrother | tucoz, just came back. |
| 21:03:48 | tucoz | goodie, do you know how to break a line in the wps tag section (manual) |
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| 21:04:40 | tucoz | I use %, but the entire line is written although it exeeds the table limits |
| 21:05:01 | bluebrother | hmm, I'm on the wrong os right now :( |
| 21:05:23 | tucoz | I see. Well, I'll poke around and see what I come up with |
| 21:05:40 | bluebrother | I'm off for rebooting. Be back in a couple of minutes. |
| 21:05:45 | tucoz | ;) |
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| 21:12:23 | bluebrother | tucoz: back ;-) |
| 21:12:32 | hardeep | marc_in_lux: ah, i see what you're asking. the playlist creation only sorts the files within a directory. the only way to do what you want is to have all the files in the same directory or to have newer files in a directory with a newer timestamp |
| 21:12:47 | tucoz | welcome back, I was thinking if we should use a different font for tags, and config settings. |
| 21:13:08 | marc_in_lux | hardeep, yes, I can see that. Although I want to keep the directory structure. |
| 21:13:15 | tucoz | Maybe some verbatim-like font |
| 21:13:18 | marc_in_lux | I'm doing it in cygwin, right now. |
| 21:13:48 | bluebrother | sounds good. |
| 21:13:58 | bluebrother | I was thinking for something courier-like as well ;-) |
| 21:14:11 | tucoz | thats the name I was looking for :) |
| 21:14:22 | bluebrother | \texttt |
| 21:15:01 | tucoz | but maybe define it in the preamble? Like \tag{%pp} |
| 21:15:52 | bluebrother | yeah, I'd prefer something like this. |
| 21:16:22 | bluebrother | so we're not stuck to using the same typeface for all coming versions |
| 21:16:34 | bluebrother | what's your unbreakable line? |
| 21:16:48 | tucoz | anyway, the problem was that I wanted to reflect the latest change to the wps-tags section (the %fc-tag) |
| 21:17:00 | tucoz | with the different codecs |
| 21:17:49 | tucoz | appendix/wps_tags.tex line 45 |
| 21:18:01 | bluebrother | ah, I see. There are some types missing in the long description. |
| 21:18:02 | amiconn | preglow: Does recording use DMA? |
| 21:18:10 | preglow | amiconn: i believe so |
| 21:18:18 | preglow | yes, definitely |
| 21:18:28 | tucoz | bluebrother, where is that? |
| 21:18:29 | amiconn | I wonder about the PDIR2 setting |
| 21:18:39 | amiconn | (interrupt when 6 samples in fifo) |
| 21:19:00 | amiconn | Iiuc this may cause overflows, as the fifo is only 6 samples deep |
| 21:19:45 | bluebrother | tucoz: line 46. |
| 21:20:00 | amiconn | Also iiuc, for this to work, the interrupt controller 2 must be initialised somehow |
| 21:20:14 | bluebrother | it ends with wavpack and unknown, but the list following also has alac, aac, etc. |
| 21:20:15 | amiconn | (PDIR2FULL is an intc2-interrupt) |
| 21:20:32 | tucoz | bluebrother, ah. I thought you found the reason to why it won't break |
| 21:20:42 | tucoz | yes that is the change I want to make |
| 21:20:54 | bluebrother | it simply doesn't break because it is a single "word". |
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| 21:21:13 | tucoz | I see. So some cheating is in place then |
| 21:21:54 | bluebrother | I'm just trying to add some hyphens |
| 21:22:04 | bluebrother | to tell latex where it should break. |
| 21:22:18 | preglow | amiconn: i get PDIR2FULL all the time when enabling the second interrupt controller |
| 21:22:25 | preglow | amiconn: even when i don't enable it... |
| 21:22:31 | tucoz | ok. Maybe you would like to add those missing things then? |
| 21:22:33 | preglow | amiconn: the PDIR2FULL interrupt, that is |
| 21:22:38 | amiconn | The recording code does enable it... |
| 21:22:38 | preglow | amiconn: but recording is smooth, bit-identical |
| 21:22:41 | bluebrother | works fine, but it produces a hypen on the breaking line. |
| 21:23:05 | amiconn | If not, how does recording work at all, then |
| 21:23:06 | amiconn | ? |
| 21:23:08 | tucoz | Well, that is fine by me. |
| 21:23:11 | * | amiconn is puzzled |
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| 21:23:56 | tucoz | certainly better than having a line of text sticking out of the table |
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| 21:25:14 | preglow | amiconn: well, INTERRUPTEN isn't touched |
| 21:25:19 | preglow | amiconn: so i don't see how it can be enabled |
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| 21:25:33 | preglow | i don't really know how dma works |
| 21:25:37 | Ycarus | hi |
| 21:25:56 | tucoz | Hello |
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| 21:28:18 | hardeep | hmmm, how hard would it be to add a new required field in flyspray for bug reports for the Rockbox version being used |
| 21:29:02 | preglow | zagor should know |
| 21:29:24 | bluebrother | tucoz: do you like my changing in line breaking? http://pastebin.com/705951 |
| 21:29:53 | bluebrother | but in some way this would be better with a dedicated formatting for tags. |
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| 21:30:25 | tucoz | what do you think such a \tag macro would be called? simply \tag or something more general, for use with config file entries as well? |
| 21:31:36 | bluebrother | hmm, I'd prefer something like the \setting macro. |
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| 21:32:00 | bluebrother | I think config file entries could be treated the same way. |
| 21:32:33 | tucoz | yes, I was thinking of something simple, like the setting macro. Just to come up with a name |
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| 21:37:15 | XavierGr | strange bug that happens sometimes in both H100 and H300: I boot to original firmware and either create a file (via record or USB OTG) or move from my PC a few files. Then when I boot up again to rockbox it takes much longer to boot. Is that known? |
| 21:37:38 | XavierGr | Much longer = up to 20 or 30 seconds |
| 21:38:08 | tucoz | I think your change looks good. With a courier font for the settings %?fc<mp1|mp2...|unknown> it will look even better. |
| 21:38:33 | bluebrother | tucoz: I just commited the change. |
| 21:38:38 | tucoz | good |
| 21:39:46 | tucoz | is \config perhaps an ok name for a macro? |
| 21:40:07 | bluebrother | I'm not sure if this is used anywhere else. |
| 21:40:24 | bluebrother | but apart from this I think it will be ok. |
| 21:40:54 | tucoz | hmm. Might be. I'll find some name along that line then. got to go |
| 21:41:01 | tucoz | bbl |
| 21:41:04 | bluebrother | cu |
| 21:42:11 | RedBreva_ | Redbreva |
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| 21:44:54 | webguest71 | lostlogic, are you perhaps looking into this bug ? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5318 |
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| 21:49:44 | lostlogic | nope. |
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| 21:53:58 | pixelma | hmm, I want to rearrange the FmPresets wiki page ('continental' sub pages and downloadable fmr-files). With the whole data as text it has become very long and chaotic - any objections? |
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| 21:55:09 | meph137 | lo all |
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| 22:01:13 | meph137 | mergle furgle |
| 22:01:25 | markun | what? |
| 22:01:34 | meph137 | nothin really just seein if anyone was alive |
| 22:01:43 | markun | :) |
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| 22:01:50 | meph137 | i have just started using rockbox! |
| 22:01:56 | meph137 | as opposed to my iriver h320 firmware |
| 22:02:00 | meph137 | my lord its about 10 times faster |
| 22:02:04 | meph137 | and very nice |
| 22:02:27 | markun | just no video and it drains the battery a lot quicker |
| 22:02:31 | gursikh | May i suggest that maybe, Rockbox is the awesomest? I think I may. |
| 22:02:50 | meph137 | markun: not noticed the battery drain yet, not had it on long enough :P |
| 22:03:08 | meph137 | im happy to live with that for the time being being as its much nicer to use |
| 22:03:22 | gursikh | not to mention all the plugins. |
| 22:04:04 | meph137 | wish i could help some, project like this makes me want to, cant program c yet though :( - which is what i presume is used? |
| 22:04:16 | markun | yes |
| 22:04:19 | meph137 | aye plugins look super duper! |
| 22:04:29 | meph137 | might have a tinkle with doom soon |
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| 22:06:57 | meph137 | tell u what would be a really lovely thing to have |
| 22:07:19 | meph137 | some form of car integration - ive seen the car adaptor option which sounds good but only half the battle |
| 22:07:28 | meph137 | wud be lovely to have head unit integration |
| 22:07:32 | meph137 | that would make my month! |
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| 22:08:16 | gursikh | that would make my year, but that is mosly beyond RB i think as it involves some hardware issues. |
| 22:09:00 | meph137 | yeh, i agree - very hard |
| 22:09:29 | meph137 | i suppose its harder still as rb covers many peices of hardware, no commonality |
| 22:10:03 | meph137 | is it roughly the same across the different devices or very different? |
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| 22:11:19 | Gargamale | Whats a chav? |
| 22:11:47 | meph137 | usually wears burberry? |
| 22:11:50 | gursikh | as in the slang term chav? LOL. |
| 22:12:21 | meph137 | anyone know of a good place to learn C? |
| 22:12:35 | meph137 | there are many tutorials on the web I know...not many hands on ones though |
| 22:12:43 | meph137 | or if they are hands on they are pretty damn slow |
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| 22:14:05 | goffa | meph137: rockbox is pretty much as uniform as it can get across all platforms |
| 22:14:12 | goffa | my h140 and x5l are nearly identical |
| 22:14:47 | pixelma | since no one has complained I will count that as no |
| 22:14:50 | gursikh | hey goffa, which do you prefer, and why? I have an h120 and have been eyein ghte x5 |
| 22:14:52 | meph137 | goffa: thats pretty good |
| 22:15:04 | goffa | well... hard to say gursikh |
| 22:15:25 | goffa | x5l has better build quality, longer battery life |
| 22:15:30 | goffa | smaller hard drive |
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| 22:15:45 | goffa | better sound output |
| 22:15:56 | goffa | h140 has recording and fm radio implemented now |
| 22:15:59 | gursikh | better build quality than the H1xx? I've always thought of the h1xx as one of the much better ones out there in terms of build quality |
| 22:16:00 | goffa | x5 you'll have to wait |
| 22:16:13 | goffa | gursikh: the metal case of the x5 rules |
| 22:16:24 | goffa | not saying h140 is bad |
| 22:16:36 | goffa | but... you could hurt someone with the x5 :) |
| 22:16:59 | gursikh | Mag alloy on the h1xx is pretty solid. I'll have to ifgure out a way to physically play with the x5 i guess. |
| 22:17:08 | goffa | yeah |
| 22:17:15 | goffa | you can't really go wrong with either |
| 22:17:20 | goffa | x5 has a color screen |
| 22:17:33 | goffa | h140 you can see in direct sunlight |
| 22:17:57 | gursikh | I'm afraid my h120 is about to start dieing. Been over two years now. |
| 22:18:02 | goffa | yeah |
| 22:18:14 | goffa | you can slap in a new hd and battery.. and have the uber140 :) |
| 22:18:27 | goffa | or h180 :) |
| 22:18:48 | gursikh | unfortunetly single platter drives bigger than 30g are not really available |
| 22:18:58 | gursikh | battery is always doable iguess. |
| 22:19:06 | goffa | i don't like the subpack on the x5 either.. nice to have the inputs built into the player |
| 22:19:28 | goffa | gursikh: i thought toshiba made a 1 platter 40gb.. i could be wrong |
| 22:19:40 | gursikh | yeah, that seemed a little bothersome, especcialy if you regularly use them for recording, etc. |
| 22:19:56 | gursikh | they are made, but are not available for purchase anywhere to the consumer. |
| 22:20:05 | goffa | yeah... well built in mic works.. but no line in on the x5 (without subpack) |
| 22:20:26 | goffa | someone had a link.. i lost it |
| 22:21:25 | goffa | ewiz? |
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| 22:22:02 | goffa | http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=T40MK4006H&c=fr&pid=3dbb4f27ffb7202149c5483aa2e875b67f4f82b847f745f6472ce14f14564690 |
| 22:22:08 | goffa | that might be dual platter |
| 22:22:09 | goffa | not sure |
| 22:22:20 | gursikh | it's dual platter |
| 22:22:31 | gursikh | single platter is the MK4007GAL |
| 22:23:17 | gursikh | see this thread on MR: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=39860 |
| 22:24:01 | amiconn | grah |
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| 22:25:14 | goffa | i'm glad i bought tha 140 |
| 22:25:34 | goffa | btw.. those are pretty cheap on ebay.. i got mine for just under $200 |
| 22:25:40 | gursikh | I regret getting the h120 instead of the h140 all the time. |
| 22:25:55 | goffa | ebay it.. you could probably recoup 2/3 of the cost |
| 22:26:51 | gursikh | Yeah, It's in very good condition, with all the original everything except the plastic box it came in. |
| 22:28:43 | goffa | yep... you could probably do the switaroo :) |
| 22:28:49 | goffa | switcharoo |
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| 22:31:04 | goffa | lol |
| 22:31:10 | goffa | |
| 22:31:11 | goffa | SEALED iRiver Remote for H120/H140/H320/H340 MP3 PLAYER |
| 22:31:11 | goffa | This seller accepts PayPal Buy It Now$60.89 |
| 22:31:11 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK goffa |
| 22:31:11 | goffa | $11.56 |
| 22:31:11 | goffa | From Australia |
| 22:31:22 | goffa | buy it now for $60.89 |
| 22:31:26 | gursikh | lol |
| 22:31:45 | goffa | they retail for half that |
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| 22:33:12 | goffa | giving them the benefit of the doubt... that's $53 usd |
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| 22:40:27 | * | amiconn finally got a toslink->mini s/pdif adapter |
| 22:40:53 | amiconn | preglow: Is there a reason why the s/pdif analyzer only works with the optical _output_ enabled? |
| 22:41:45 | preglow | amiconn: i've asked the same thing... |
| 22:42:02 | preglow | amiconn: SPDIF_IN wasn't defined for h1x0, i guess linus just went for the quick way |
| 22:43:24 | amiconn | This doesn't have to do with the settings value... but the settings value is what influences function |
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| 22:45:27 | amiconn | preglow: On a related note, the config registers for intc2 are _all_ zero. I wonder how any interrupt >=0x40 can be fired this way... |
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| 22:45:45 | preglow | amiconn: i've got local modifications |
| 22:45:53 | amiconn | I got PDIR1FULL when doing some experiments |
| 22:45:57 | preglow | amiconn: i can hand you a diff if you want, but i don't know what state it's in |
| 22:46:10 | amiconn | ...totally unrelated to audio, btw (!) |
| 22:46:20 | preglow | hmm |
| 22:46:23 | preglow | do we even use pdir1? |
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| 22:48:37 | amiconn | Afaics we don't |
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| 22:48:43 | amiconn | hmmm.... |
| 22:48:48 | m0nk_ | hey everyone |
| 22:48:56 | preglow | i think we use pdir3 for playback, and pdor2 for recording |
| 22:49:02 | m0nk_ | i was just looking at rockbox...and i was curious |
| 22:49:04 | preglow | ehh |
| 22:49:06 | preglow | other way around |
| 22:49:09 | amiconn | yeps |
| 22:49:15 | m0nk_ | does it support my gigabeat? |
| 22:49:19 | preglow | m0nk_: not yet |
| 22:49:31 | m0nk_ | o ok |
| 22:49:43 | m0nk_ | is it in development for the megf40s? |
| 22:49:53 | markun | m0nk_: yes, all F and X players |
| 22:50:23 | m0nk_ | w00t w00t |
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| 22:50:39 | LedByTheReaper | hey guys |
| 22:50:39 | m0nk_ | i like the sound of that:D |
| 22:50:44 | LedByTheReaper | one question |
| 22:50:53 | LedByTheReaper | how do i update my version of rockbox to the latest build? |
| 22:51:19 | pussfeller | download the cvs and unxip it into your device |
| 22:51:22 | m0nk_ | lawl and toshiba tech support told me i wouldnt have a chance in hell getting linux to see the lil bastard:) |
| 22:51:24 | LedByTheReaper | ah cool |
| 22:51:28 | LedByTheReaper | so nothing in cmd line again? |
| 22:51:46 | pussfeller | no |
| 22:51:52 | LedByTheReaper | nice |
| 22:51:55 | pussfeller | changes might break settings, possibly however |
| 22:52:02 | LedByTheReaper | i just like the look of some of the new themes |
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| 22:52:25 | markun | m0nk_: well, gphoto has support for some MTP players, but I had no luck so far |
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| 22:52:52 | m0nk_ | i see |
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| 22:53:23 | m0nk_ | i have a 40gb model.....and only 6gb of music on it |
| 22:53:23 | m0nk_ | lol i figured i could use it for backup |
| 22:53:53 | m0nk_ | however....most of the stuff i need to back up is on a linux box |
| 22:54:57 | m0nk_ | hmmm before i get myself banned.....what are the rules of this channel? |
| 22:54:58 | LedByTheReaper | grr some of these themes dont install properly |
| 22:55:08 | amiconn | preglow: The only explanation is that the s/pdif power portbit switches power for both transmitter and receiver (the only thing spdif_power_enable() does is flipping a port bit) |
| 22:55:28 | preglow | well, it does |
| 22:55:37 | preglow | output lights up when you want to record in iriver fw |
| 22:55:38 | amiconn | That means we have to enable s/pdif power for s/pdif recording, unconditionally |
| 22:56:00 | LedByTheReaper | cheese for the help |
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| 22:56:30 | amiconn | What was the problem again with your recording code, and what did you try to solve it (i.e. your further local mods)? |
| 22:56:58 | preglow | the main problem was that recording would fail if the signal was lost somehow, which happened in two ways: |
| 22:57:23 | preglow | 1. you start recording with no spdif cable connected or no signal in the cable, which will (for me, sometimes) hang the player |
| 22:57:28 | XavierGr | WTF? Which files do I have to edit for the manual before I 'make'. I edit the main.tex file and after 'make' it reverts to what it was. |
| 22:57:41 | preglow | 2. sometimes, when you unplug the cable a number of times and reinsert, recording will fail |
| 22:57:54 | preglow | peak meter dies, and dma status is 0 |
| 22:58:10 | preglow | i don't know why this happens at all |
| 22:58:22 | preglow | so i plan to stop recording automatically when i catch the parity/symbol error interrupt |
| 22:58:37 | amiconn | I would expect the recording to stop with no signal, and continue when the signal is reapplied |
| 22:58:43 | preglow | nope |
| 22:58:47 | preglow | it continues in many cases |
| 22:58:56 | preglow | i can unplug an reinsert many times before recording somehow disables itself |
| 22:59:23 | amiconn | I don't mean it stops literally, but it stops transferring data interface->memory |
| 22:59:35 | preglow | nope |
| 22:59:40 | preglow | transport goes on |
| 22:59:42 | amiconn | Hmm, strange |
| 22:59:47 | preglow | with the last values in the fifo |
| 22:59:51 | amiconn | What data does it save, then? |
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| 23:00:13 | preglow | sometimes zero, some times the fifo never gets refilled and old data keeps on coming |
| 23:00:17 | preglow | i've had both things happen |
| 23:00:47 | amiconn | Same words over and over? |
| 23:00:59 | * | amiconn would have expected the dma being demand-driven |
| 23:01:18 | preglow | i didn't check the data at that time, i just noticed that the peak meter stuck and dithered in one place |
| 23:02:09 | m0nk_ | i am going to work on something |
| 23:02:22 | m0nk_ | i will be back in here in an hour or so |
| 23:02:22 | m0nk_ | peace guys |
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| 23:28:13 | amiconn | preglow: I don't understand a value setting in your IIS2CONFIG for s/pdif monitoring... |
| 23:28:16 | amiconn | IIS2CONFIG = ((8 << 12) | 0x300 | (7 << 8) | (4 << 2)); |
| 23:28:22 | preglow | it's the default playback setting |
| 23:28:35 | amiconn | The 0x300 and the (7<<8) map to the same bit positions... |
| 23:29:08 | preglow | i just stole it straight from the playback code |
| 23:29:12 | preglow | so don't ask too much about it |
| 23:29:42 | preglow | it worked so i didn't look too close yet |
| 23:32:24 | t0mas | hmz... can somebody enlighten me on what "Committing tagcache" means? |
| 23:32:25 | amiconn | EBU1CONFIG=0; is also strange... |
| 23:32:28 | t0mas | while starting rockbox on an iriver? |
| 23:32:42 | preglow | amiconn: why? |
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| 23:34:22 | preglow | amiconn: most bits in EBIxCONFIG relate to transmit options, and i don't transmit |
| 23:34:28 | preglow | i just want to set the source to EBU1 |
| 23:34:37 | preglow | which i do |
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| 23:35:33 | amiconn | But you set CLOCKSEL to 0000b, which means audioclk/16 |
| 23:35:58 | amiconn | Foontnote 1 says "IEC958 interface needs 64 * audio sample frequency clock for good operation." |
| 23:36:26 | amiconn | That would mean a necessary audioclk of ~45MHz |
| 23:36:35 | amiconn | (44100*64*16) |
| 23:37:02 | preglow | that's the transmit clock |
| 23:37:10 | preglow | afaik |
| 23:37:39 | preglow | spdif is usually 128*sample rate anyway |
| 23:37:48 | preglow | not 64 |
| 23:38:06 | amiconn | No it's 64*sample rate |
| 23:38:17 | amiconn | (~2.8 MHz for 44.1kHz) |
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| 23:38:46 | preglow | ok, then why do i need to divide the measured clock by 128 to extract the sample rate? |
| 23:38:55 | preglow | i'm almost 100% positive 128 is the correct value here |
| 23:39:04 | preglow | i've even read it in places |
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| 23:42:31 | preglow | lostlogic: there? |
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| 23:44:16 | Binary-shadow | hi im having some problems installing rockbox can anyone help me? |
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| 23:44:49 | lostlogic | preglow: barely, sup? |
| 23:45:13 | preglow | lostlogic: when i use pcm_play_data with a callback get_more, will there still be no-latency operation? |
| 23:45:23 | preglow | when will it call back for more? |
| 23:45:30 | Binary-shadow | im having problems installing rockboc can anyone help me |
| 23:45:33 | markun | Binary-shadow: which player and what kind of problems? |
| 23:45:57 | lostlogic | preglow: the callback for more will be called when the fiq or dma tell it to be called (when the previous packet is done), if you _do not_ send it an initial pointer or size, it will call the callback for more immediately |
| 23:46:09 | Binary-shadow | im trying to install it on my 5ith gen ipod |
| 23:46:18 | preglow | lostlogic: ok, so basically no latency, and yeah, what block sizes will it ask for? |
| 23:46:52 | Binary-shadow | and im running the ipodpatcher and its drive 1 but when i put it it in says the device is not read |
| 23:46:55 | Binary-shadow | ready* |
| 23:47:00 | lostlogic | whatever you want to give it −− I think the DMAs have some maximum size, but the FIQ doesn't. |
| 23:47:24 | preglow | riiiight, i get to decide... |
| 23:47:24 | preglow | hahah |
| 23:47:34 | lostlogic | you... scare me. |
| 23:47:35 | lostlogic | :) |
| 23:47:41 | preglow | i should start reading the function prototypes |
| 23:47:41 | preglow | heh |
| 23:47:53 | markun | Binary-shadow: I don't have a ipod. You could wait till a ipod owner answers |
| 23:47:54 | preglow | i'm used to all audio callback systems telling me what they want exactly |
| 23:47:59 | preglow | so i didn't actually read it, i see :PP |
| 23:48:06 | lostlogic | gotcha |
| 23:48:11 | lostlogic | anywho, I'm off for a while. |
| 23:48:14 | preglow | a-ok |
| 23:48:20 | preglow | got what i needed, thanks |
| 23:48:35 | Binary-shadow | can anyone help me install rockbox on my 5th gen ipod its jsut a small problem should only take a second |
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| 23:50:08 | BHSPitLappy | don't ask to ask |
| 23:52:08 | Binary-shadow | nm i dont think i need help anymore i jsut found an installer on the forums :) |
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| 23:58:39 | egtrippen | got a WPS question |
| 23:58:58 | egtrippen | with the %?pv tag, is it possible to make more than 10 gradations? |
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