| 00:00:45 | preglow | flac is fast like hell on ipod too, yeah |
| 00:00:46 | * | amiconn wants more ffmpeg optimised codecs in rockbox :/ |
| 00:01:00 | preglow | amiconn: we'll hopefully have aac soon |
| 00:01:16 | petur | jnc: rockbox increases cpu frequency when it needs more processing power, this is called boosting |
| 00:01:24 | amiconn | The ffmpeg people seem to really know what they're doing... |
| 00:01:27 | jnc | ohhh |
| 00:01:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | jnc: In Rockbox, the CPUs run at one of two speeds. Normal and boosted. If a codec is slow, it has to boost occasionally to fill up the PCM buffer from time to time. Boost ratio (how often and for how long) is often used to approximate how fast a codec is relative to others. |
| 00:01:34 | jnc | powersaving measure? |
| 00:01:35 | * | amiconn remembers the old libflac thing... |
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| 00:02:13 | scottder | Hmmm i may rip some stuff to wavpack and flac....see what kind of battery life I get |
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| 00:02:26 | preglow | amiconn: don't mention it again |
| 00:02:42 | preglow | whoever wrote that code should be shot |
| 00:02:48 | preglow | again and again |
| 00:04:01 | markun | trying to use oo programming in c iirc |
| 00:04:10 | preglow | and overdoing it |
| 00:04:12 | jnc | gggg gaim. |
| 00:04:14 | jnc | ;) |
| 00:04:38 | amiconn | Someone should perform a thorough codec performance comparison both on coldfire and pp |
| 00:04:43 | preglow | yup |
| 00:04:57 | preglow | when 3.0 is out, i'll do a bit of codec optimisation |
| 00:06:29 | sharpe | i wonder what i should do... |
| 00:06:39 | fiftyfour123 | can anyone help me with my problem here: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11247 |
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| 00:07:19 | sharpe | sure, we can help you. unfortunately, you left. |
| 00:07:59 | jnc | haha, good one |
| 00:08:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | He's asking for help installing iPL... with Loader2... |
| 00:08:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wonder why he was asking here. |
| 00:08:49 | sharpe | i've no idea? |
| 00:08:52 | petur | maybe he saw he joined the wrong channel? |
| 00:08:58 | jnc | rockbox does benefit from the work of ipodlinux users |
| 00:09:08 | jnc | developer(s) even |
| 00:09:39 | qwm | let's slam our brilliant minds together and sing a song. |
| 00:09:46 | jnc | =) |
| 00:10:11 | sharpe | i don't quite want to get back to working on the emulator... |
| 00:10:17 | jnc | allow me asking, who's ripped a number of CDs to lossless format? |
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| 00:10:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | jnc: I use primarily lossless as my archival copy. |
| 00:10:51 | * | amiconn doesn't see the point in lossless, except for buying music only |
| 00:10:51 | jnc | Paul_The_Nerd: okay. what OS are you ripping from? |
| 00:10:54 | Galois | it depends on how many CDs constitute a number. I imagine most people here have ripped some. |
| 00:11:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | jnc: Windows. Which probably doesn't help you, since I saw you wanted Linux. |
| 00:11:13 | Galois | in linux you use cdparanoia |
| 00:11:16 | jnc | *nod* |
| 00:11:21 | amiconn | I have ripped exactly one, in both flac and wavpack, for testing purposes |
| 00:11:23 | Galois | written by my friend monty (who also wrote vorbis) |
| 00:11:38 | jnc | how to tell if the rip is bit-for-bit identical to what you would burn back onto a CDR? |
| 00:11:44 | Galois | it's almost impossible |
| 00:11:45 | jnc | i know it sounds silly |
| 00:11:49 | Galois | the cdparanoia man page explains this well |
| 00:11:55 | Galois | there are a number of obstacles |
| 00:12:15 | jnc | sample accuracy doesn't go that far, and so on |
| 00:12:18 | Galois | for example, the cd audio protocol simply does not provide positioning information more accurate than 1/75th second |
| 00:12:28 | Galois | so every time you rip you might be off by that amount |
| 00:12:33 | jnc | hm |
| 00:12:41 | jnc | i don't think it will sound better |
| 00:12:50 | Galois | at best, you can expect two consecutive rips to be identical provided that you time shift one of them by less than 1/75th second |
| 00:12:50 | preglow | petur: yo, will that fix the volume delete bug? |
| 00:12:54 | jnc | i'm not an audiophile. i just don't want to have to do this more than once |
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| 00:13:07 | Galois | so comparing two different rips, or one rip to the original CD, is hard |
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| 00:13:15 | petur | preglow: I don't know |
| 00:13:17 | jnc | oh |
| 00:13:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Galois: And it's on the reburning that the error is introduced anyway, right? |
| 00:13:27 | Galois | a lesser obstacle is that the CD audio specification simply is not designed for perfect bit preservation |
| 00:13:31 | * | petur gives up hunting fat bug :D |
| 00:13:50 | Galois | paul_the_nerd: if you burn as audio cd, then both ripping and reburning introduce possible positioning errors |
| 00:14:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah well. |
| 00:14:09 | preglow | petur: well, it does look valid, i guess |
| 00:14:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only functioning CD players I have anymore are DVD-ROM drives, anyway. |
| 00:14:30 | Galois | red book CD audio specifies a bit error rate of something like 1 out of 10^10 bits |
| 00:14:48 | amiconn | preglow: Did you actually observe it? |
| 00:14:54 | Galois | if you do the math, that means that a drive is allowed to flip one bit per complete CD and still be within spec |
| 00:15:14 | amiconn | I didn't observe it a single time, and I am using rockbox for quite some time now |
| 00:15:21 | amiconn | ...on multiple units |
| 00:15:22 | Galois | data cds have additional error correction above the media layer (mode 2 encoding) that reduces the error rate by another factor of 10000 |
| 00:15:41 | amiconn | Galois: The other way round... |
| 00:15:48 | Galois | mode 1 encoding |
| 00:15:49 | Galois | thanks |
| 00:15:51 | amiconn | Data uses mode1, audio uses mode2 |
| 00:16:07 | sharpe | Galois: it's be... one bit per ~1192 megs to be within specification then... |
| 00:16:28 | Galois | 1192 megs is about two cds |
| 00:16:32 | jnc | Galois: how about i redefine what i'm asking, how do i take WHALE cd and rip it to WHALE.ext on my hard disk, using (program ? here), and burn it back onto a CD-R. The CD-R copy will be identified and played exactly as the original, including any sort of fancy pre-gap tricks or 99th track extras |
| 00:16:35 | Galois | "Factors of two are not important." −−Walter Lewin |
| 00:16:45 | Galois | jnc: cdrdao |
| 00:16:56 | Galois | it's a linux program designed to copy the whole disc at once |
| 00:16:59 | sharpe | it's not quite two cdrs though. |
| 00:17:15 | jnc | Galois: what if i want to not just copy it exactly, but also archive it losslessly in a compressed format |
| 00:17:23 | Galois | cdrdao makes a file |
| 00:17:25 | jnc | and extract it back onto CD-R with the same results |
| 00:17:26 | jnc | hm |
| 00:17:29 | Galois | that file can be burned, it's bin/cue format |
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| 00:17:51 | Galois | you can also archive that file (or files, technically speaking−− there's two of them, a bin and a cue) |
| 00:17:53 | jnc | aye, but i'd like to not have to store an unwieldly cdrdao raw file |
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| 00:18:01 | Galois | what would you like then? |
| 00:18:07 | Galois | multiple small files? man split |
| 00:18:09 | jnc | have it stored in a compressed format |
| 00:18:14 | Galois | bzip2 |
| 00:18:19 | jnc | like i do with oggvorbis, i mean |
| 00:18:23 | jnc | playable on rockbox |
| 00:18:27 | Galois | so you want flac? |
| 00:18:34 | Galois | fine, but that is not guaranteed to preserve pregap information etc. |
| 00:18:35 | jnc | ah, but does flac store CD-TEXT? |
| 00:18:41 | Galois | no cd-text either |
| 00:18:47 | jnc | i read that it has trouble with CD-TEXT and pregap extras |
| 00:18:50 | Galois | cdrdao is the only surefire way to store cdtext and other extras |
| 00:18:57 | jnc | what about wavpack |
| 00:19:01 | Galois | I think you're going to have to compromise on your requirements here |
| 00:19:18 | Galois | there is a way, but it's not mindless |
| 00:19:23 | jnc | go on |
| 00:19:42 | Galois | you have to run cdrdao and have it extract every track as an individual wav file, along with the cue file (which are called toc files in cdrdao, equivalent thing) |
| 00:19:47 | Galois | the cd-text will be inside the toc |
| 00:19:54 | Galois | the toc will also have one line for each wav |
| 00:20:10 | Galois | then you can burn the toc as long as it can find the wavs in the same directory, onto a cd-r |
| 00:20:26 | Galois | you'll get a perfect copy of the original cd, *ASSUMING* the cd was pure audio and not multisession or some esoteric crap |
| 00:20:36 | jnc | oh |
| 00:20:40 | jnc | if it is multisession? |
| 00:20:43 | Galois | then you can separately compress the wav files. Note that you have to decompress them again prior to burning. |
| 00:20:59 | Galois | if it is multisession, you'll get a bunch of wavs and a bunch of other crap like data partitions |
| 00:21:07 | Galois | obviously the data partitions can't be put through flac |
| 00:21:23 | jnc | oh. that means ... right. no reasonable way to archive it |
| 00:21:30 | Galois | so the bottom line is you have to manually flac and unflac the wavs |
| 00:21:40 | jnc | i wonder if WavPack fans have a solution for that |
| 00:21:46 | Galois | you want my suggestion? I'll give it to you |
| 00:22:01 | Galois | get a dvd burner. That lets you fit 5-6 full toc/bin cd images on one disc |
| 00:22:08 | Galois | without any modifications |
| 00:22:12 | jnc | hehe. |
| 00:22:17 | jnc | cds on more cds |
| 00:22:25 | Galois | they're super cheap too, $20 for internal ide burner I think |
| 00:22:40 | Galois | and 40 cents per disc, cheaper per byte than cd-r |
| 00:22:42 | jnc | from an cdrdao image, can i run cdparanoia on the image? |
| 00:22:50 | Galois | you know, I have never tried that |
| 00:22:59 | Galois | my guess is ... no |
| 00:23:16 | jnc | http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:23:31 | jnc | also what's the conversion from bin/cue to the cdrdao output files |
| 00:23:46 | jnc | and visa versa. i think it was a simple text format thing |
| 00:23:53 | jnc | perhaps you know better |
| 00:23:56 | Galois | I believe cdrdao can read a bin/cue directly |
| 00:24:03 | jnc | that would be cool |
| 00:24:19 | jnc | if i used cdrdao and wanted to burn from a wintel box though |
| 00:24:56 | Galois | alcohol 120% can convert any cd format in the world to any other cd format in the world, but it's shareware |
| 00:25:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | bin/cue is pretty widely supported |
| 00:26:24 | Galois | cdrdao can read bin/cue (for burning on a disc), but it can't write bin/cue (for ripping from a disc) because it's snobby. I think. |
| 00:26:34 | jnc | ah |
| 00:26:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | What does cdrdao write? |
| 00:26:59 | Galois | toc/img |
| 00:27:08 | Mikachu | cdrdao writes bin/cue just fine |
| 00:27:16 | Galois | yeah? |
| 00:27:21 | Mikachu | oh sorry, i read you wrong |
| 00:27:27 | Mikachu | in my world, write = write to cd |
| 00:27:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, cdrdao also runs on Windows anyway, doesn't it? |
| 00:28:03 | Galois | damn, it does supposedly run on windows. I did not know that. |
| 00:30:42 | * | petur wonders if http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5025 can be closed |
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| 00:33:12 | preglow | how would one reproduce the volume label bug if you corrected it now? |
| 00:33:35 | amiconn | petur: I think so. The user reported back that it doesn't occur in newer builds, so lostlogic's rework obviously fixed it |
| 00:33:49 | petur | done |
| 00:34:15 | quan | what the fuck |
| 00:34:22 | quan | overwriting the latest build overwrite's config settings |
| 00:34:27 | quan | what total n00b thought that one up |
| 00:34:41 | midkay | it's necessary. |
| 00:34:50 | quan | its very unnecessary |
| 00:35:09 | ender` | quan: it's open-source, you can fix that yourself |
| 00:35:16 | quan | yea, right |
| 00:35:34 | ashridah | quan: it's the way things are. mostly because they're too lazy to handle a better config storage system :) |
| 00:35:49 | quan | no, because they provide a default cfg in the daily |
| 00:35:55 | ashridah | so if a new config variable goes in, the settings get dropped because they're flagged as old |
| 00:35:56 | quan | which can easily be not included |
| 00:36:02 | jnc | a little warning telling n00bs that they should refrain from whining about it.... |
| 00:36:04 | quan | what total n00bish happening |
| 00:36:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | quan: The active settings aren't in the file. |
| 00:36:22 | quan | the file gets overwritten |
| 00:36:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 00:36:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maybe |
| 00:36:34 | scottder | quan is obviously not getting his moneys worth |
| 00:36:36 | ashridah | quan: config settings are stored in a hidden sector in the first track, not in a file. |
| 00:36:36 | scottder | oh wait |
| 00:37:08 | ashridah | quan: you didn't actually overwrite them, it forcibly dropped them when it booted because the config settings no longer matched the version of your build. |
| 00:37:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | quan: Settings are only cleared when the settings block version changes. And they have nothing to do with an overwritten file |
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| 00:37:22 | quan | exactly, ridiculous |
| 00:37:23 | * | HedgeMage peeks in |
| 00:37:29 | jnc | ? |
| 00:37:30 | ashridah | it only happens when someone puts a new setting in. |
| 00:37:42 | ashridah | quan: no, it's called "in development" |
| 00:37:45 | jnc | maybe an export/import settings to file tool.... |
| 00:37:49 | ashridah | if you want a stable release, use a stable release. |
| 00:37:49 | jnc | could that help? |
| 00:37:50 | quan | any typical settings system from xml to ini prevents the need of overwriting the file |
| 00:37:55 | quan | what are they using, serialized array? |
| 00:37:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | jnc: "Manage Settings" "Save config file" |
| 00:37:59 | jnc | ah |
| 00:38:01 | ender` | quan: if you don't like it, you're free to implement your own config system |
| 00:38:06 | jnc | so quan, you missed that feautre |
| 00:38:10 | scottder | Use CVS, you can get bitten...in any project...it happens.... |
| 00:38:14 | ender` | just make sure it doesn't take too much memory |
| 00:38:19 | jnc | be sure to backup your config files before upgrading your OS |
| 00:38:20 | jnc | :) |
| 00:38:21 | XavierGr | it would be good if the filenames on the bleeding edge builds were set with the name of the target too. Like rockbox-h300 or rockbox-ondiofm instead of just rockbox.zip |
| 00:38:22 | jnc | that's very simple |
| 00:38:25 | quan | point is, they're using an absurd storage system for settings, end of story |
| 00:38:27 | Mikachu | that's the most successful troll i have seen today |
| 00:38:34 | jnc | quan: no, you didn't read the documentation |
| 00:38:37 | scottder | quan....go write your own then.... |
| 00:38:41 | petur | read the CVS log on the front page - hint: 11 May 22:55 |
| 00:38:48 | quan | writing my own doesnt fix the daily-overwrite issue n00b |
| 00:38:59 | petur | btw, preglow did it :) |
| 00:39:03 | quan | figures |
| 00:39:12 | scottder | Well apparently it would in your perfect version,no? |
| 00:39:18 | scottder | even in CVS, always perfect.... |
| 00:39:20 | jnc | quan: yes it does, you need to save your settings before upgrading |
| 00:39:23 | scottder | idiot |
| 00:39:35 | sharpe | the love... |
| 00:39:38 | jnc | quan: please don't come in here flaming people when you haven't taken the necessary steps |
| 00:39:41 | quan | jnc, doesnt happen when using xml/ini |
| 00:39:43 | quan | what are they using |
| 00:39:47 | quan | serialized vars? |
| 00:39:51 | quan | binary? |
| 00:39:53 | quan | roflicious |
| 00:39:56 | jnc | quan: who are you? |
| 00:40:00 | quan | afk |
| 00:40:02 | Mikachu | kibble, famous from yesterday |
| 00:40:09 | ashridah | ah, so he is |
| 00:40:10 | scottder | quan you are obviously too l337 for us.... |
| 00:40:13 | scottder | you should leave |
| 00:40:17 | ender` | quan: nobody forces you to use rockbox, you can stay with your stock firmware and you won't have any of these problems |
| 00:40:21 | scottder | before our noobishness rubs off on you |
| 00:40:24 | XavierGr | wtf is going on with all these trolls?? |
| 00:40:27 | quan | this overwrite bug is so ridiculous, i had to spend 2 minutes redoing my settings, its so frustrating |
| 00:40:29 | Mikachu | XavierGr: it's only one |
| 00:40:40 | Mikachu | quan: you just wasted 10 minutes of 20 people's time |
| 00:40:41 | quan | 2 minutes!!!!!!! |
| 00:40:46 | jnc | i've tried. vote for a kick *sigh* |
| 00:40:49 | XavierGr | is he kibble from yesterday? |
| 00:40:50 | scottder | OMG....the end of the world |
| 00:40:54 | Mikachu | XavierGr: yes, like i said |
| 00:40:57 | quan | I think its time for |
| 00:40:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | quan: There is an option to save your settings to file. It's not our fault you chose to ignore it, and not read the changelog. |
| 00:40:59 | quan | some more sc logs |
| 00:41:05 | Mikachu | HedgeMage: this is your cue |
| 00:41:41 | scottder | Ok hear that...all future changes must take quan inability to do backups and be generally smart in mind |
| 00:42:08 | quan | learn to speak english |
| 00:42:09 | petur | damn cox.net admins don't seem to work in the weekend :( |
| 00:42:24 | quan | petur, your petty threats are as old as irc itself |
| 00:42:26 | quan | get over yourself |
| 00:42:31 | quan | rofl n00b pwnt afk gg no re |
| 00:42:34 | * | HedgeMage peeks back in |
| 00:42:41 | HedgeMage | quan: pleas calm yourself. |
| 00:42:43 | XavierGr | where is an opper when you need him? |
| 00:42:47 | | Quit ender` (" I have defined the hundred per cent American as ninety-nine per cent an idiot. -- George Bernard Shaw") |
| 00:42:58 | petur | threats? I just sent them a mail about your abuse... |
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| 00:43:12 | scottder | welcome to being the only person on my ignore list quan |
| 00:43:14 | quan | wtf |
| 00:43:17 | preglow | god |
| 00:43:20 | quan | how the hell did you do that |
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| 00:43:26 | preglow | quan: winnuke |
| 00:43:27 | Mikachu | haha, irc noob |
| 00:43:28 | quan | cut it otu asshole |
| 00:43:29 | XavierGr | this guy must be banned permanently from freenode not just #rockbox. |
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| 00:43:35 | quan | omfg |
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| 00:43:38 | * | jnc grins |
| 00:43:39 | preglow | hahahaha |
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| 00:43:41 | Mikachu | Eddward: having fun? |
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| 00:43:44 | jnc | normally i don't like this sort of thing |
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| 00:43:48 | jnc | but that is pretty funny |
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| 00:43:58 | petur | rotfl |
| 00:43:59 | quan | ok I"ll stop |
| 00:44:00 | quan | ok |
| 00:44:02 | XavierGr | how that happened? |
| 00:44:02 | quan | sorry I'm stopping |
| 00:44:04 | quan | ok? |
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| 00:44:09 | preglow | ahahahaha |
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| 00:44:13 | scottder | OMG XML will fix everything!!! |
| 00:44:15 | Mikachu | XavierGr: freenode has special haxings |
| 00:44:15 | scottder | :) |
| 00:44:17 | quan | dude, pelase stop kicking me |
| 00:44:22 | XavierGr | LOL |
| 00:44:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Seriously, you don't seem to like us, why do you even CARE if you're kicked? |
| 00:44:30 | Mikachu | XavierGr: basically you do /quote remove nick |
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| 00:44:34 | jnc | yea |
| 00:44:45 | jnc | obviously he doesn't store his settings in XML/INI |
| 00:44:53 | jnc | that's why he can't stay unkicked |
| 00:45:05 | HedgeMage | he's klined now |
| 00:45:10 | Mikachu | thanks |
| 00:45:22 | jnc | good times :) |
| 00:45:23 | midkay | thanks, HedgeMage :) |
| 00:45:25 | HedgeMage | you can try banning the host instead of removing :) |
| 00:45:45 | HedgeMage | np... it was in "chanop" area until he was removed :) I took it as ban-jumping :) |
| 00:45:45 | XavierGr | HedgeMage: Do you have any special powers (or authority)? |
| 00:45:56 | HedgeMage | XavierGr: I am a network staffer here on freenode |
| 00:46:02 | Mikachu | HedgeMage: the problem is we don't seem to have any ops in here right now |
| 00:46:03 | jnc | the power of water, wind, heart.... combined |
| 00:46:08 | XavierGr | Ah nice to see you! |
| 00:46:08 | jnc | he is captian hedgemage |
| 00:46:10 | preglow | Mikachu: the problem is we don't have enough |
| 00:46:14 | preglow | and i plan to mention that to bagder |
| 00:46:16 | preglow | again and again |
| 00:46:17 | HedgeMage | then who's Eddward ? |
| 00:46:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aye, that might be something you should look into :-P |
| 00:46:25 | Mikachu | i wonder that too, he's not opped |
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| 00:46:29 | HedgeMage | only network staff and chanops can remove... |
| 00:46:44 | Mikachu | maybe he just forgot to set his hostmask, or do you know all staff? |
| 00:46:52 | HedgeMage | I know all the staff :) |
| 00:46:55 | HedgeMage | we're a small bunch |
| 00:46:58 | * | HedgeMage wonders |
| 00:46:58 | scottder | But we're all soo n00b! :) |
| 00:47:06 | jnc | oh geeze |
| 00:47:12 | HedgeMage | it's possible to set a chan to allow anyone to use /remove, but it's not common |
| 00:47:20 | preglow | for some reason |
| 00:47:24 | petur | sorry to go off-topic - do we reliably detect remote types on iriver? |
| 00:47:35 | jnc | don't know |
| 00:47:41 | jnc | paul? |
| 00:47:58 | Mikachu | [OpenProjects] -!- #rockbox You need to be a channel operator to do that |
| 00:48:04 | Mikachu | and i even tried it on myself |
| 00:48:10 | sharpe | petur: that's not off topic until you see me talk about random things. |
| 00:48:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I seem to remember us including something to detect remotes. The only reports I've heard of it *not* working relate to the experimental build, but that's also the only build that has a large number of users using a variety of remotes, so I don't know if it's our stuff or theirs. |
| 00:49:03 | XavierGr | petur: yes I think we do. |
| 00:49:25 | petur | well it's needed if we want http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5223 in 3.0 :) |
| 00:50:07 | XavierGr | AFAIK rockbox can detect successfully all iriver remotes, though the button handling isn't perfect yet |
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| 00:50:34 | XavierGr | in some places there are some misconfigured buttons for certain remote types |
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| 01:07:06 | amiconn | petur: Yes we do detect remote types reliably, after my latest work on it |
| 01:07:25 | amiconn | (unless you deliberately take more than 20 seconds for plugging it fully in |
| 01:07:45 | amiconn | However, the suggestion in the task you mentioned is oooold, and doesn't make sense |
| 01:07:57 | amiconn | It was discussed way back in archos-only times... |
| 01:08:14 | petur | then why was it tagged for 3.0? |
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| 01:08:45 | amiconn | I have no idea |
| 01:09:06 | amiconn | The old consensus was that the remote should *not* activate the main backlight. |
| 01:09:32 | preglow | agreed |
| 01:09:34 | amiconn | You use the remote because you can't / don't want to access the main unit. |
| 01:09:52 | amiconn | If you have the main unit within reach, you can use the main unit's buttons as well |
| 01:10:08 | petur | so he should write himslef a hack to have this on his unit... |
| 01:10:17 | petur | himself even |
| 01:10:50 | amiconn | One detail might need fixing though - the non-lcd remote should ignore the "first keypress..." option, since there is no backlight to activate |
| 01:11:06 | petur | heh |
| 01:11:51 | petur | button.c tests for REMOTETYPE_H300_NONLCD |
| 01:12:12 | * | petur wonders how many remotes there are |
| 01:12:24 | amiconn | 3 |
| 01:12:34 | amiconn | types |
| 01:12:42 | petur | so then it's ok already |
| 01:12:57 | petur | first press isn't eaten for nonlcd |
| 01:13:11 | petur | (line 547) |
| 01:13:32 | amiconn | Okay okay, didn't check :) |
| 01:13:43 | amiconn | That's why I said 'might' |
| 01:13:44 | XavierGr | then the patch should be closed/ |
| 01:13:50 | XavierGr | the bug report I mean |
| 01:13:55 | petur | ok |
| 01:14:20 | petur | done |
| 01:14:28 | petur | 11 to go :D |
| 01:14:42 | amiconn | Not all bugs are in the tracker... |
| 01:15:21 | amiconn | I will work on the battery status issue after finishing my runtime tests |
| 01:15:50 | amiconn | (which are actually part of the work) |
| 01:16:19 | XavierGr | 11 to go? |
| 01:16:24 | XavierGr | I see 80 + |
| 01:16:35 | petur | due in 3.0 ;) |
| 01:16:50 | XavierGr | where is that table? |
| 01:17:09 | petur | quick links |
| 01:17:29 | petur | right above the 'please do not submit blah blah' |
| 01:18:00 | amiconn | I wonder whether I should work on grayscale gamma before 3.0 |
| 01:18:03 | XavierGr | Ah I missed that |
| 01:18:15 | amiconn | It may fix the 'headache bug' of doom on h1x0 |
| 01:19:24 | XavierGr | Doom in H100 is pretty unplayable |
| 01:19:57 | amiconn | Yes, because it's too dark even with doom's own gamma set to max |
| 01:20:15 | petur | somebody with an h1x0 should verify (and close) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5354 - I can't reproduce it |
| 01:20:31 | XavierGr | let me check |
| 01:21:13 | XavierGr | argh I only have 4000 tracks in my unit!!! |
| 01:21:44 | * | amiconn has even less |
| 01:22:00 | * | sharpe only has... less than 1000... |
| 01:22:18 | petur | oh right - I didn't have 6500 either :( |
| 01:22:22 | sharpe | probably around 800... |
| 01:22:46 | amiconn | ~3300 here |
| 01:23:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I saw it but ~1800 here |
| 01:23:40 | sharpe | 861 songs minus one or two albums... |
| 01:23:44 | XavierGr | let me copy paste the music folder then and try :( |
| 01:24:10 | XavierGr | also I get the weel known error: Playback hangs while page scrolling |
| 01:24:15 | XavierGr | ^well |
| 01:24:39 | petur | 4407 here... |
| 01:24:58 | XavierGr | can I just try this on my H300? |
| 01:25:02 | XavierGr | it seems to be the same |
| 01:25:16 | XavierGr | (if there is this sort of behavious) |
| 01:25:52 | petur | probably some buffer overflow happening |
| 01:25:58 | XavierGr | ah whatever I will delete the rest of the back uped files |
| 01:26:12 | sharpe | lets port rockbox to x86 based computers. |
| 01:26:21 | XavierGr | well I will try with 7000 songs and tell you |
| 01:26:30 | * | petur points to the sim :) |
| 01:26:40 | jnc | sharpe: how about mac68k |
| 01:26:43 | sharpe | yes, but, as an alternative operating system! ahah! |
| 01:26:54 | jnc | i've got an mac colour classic dying for something useful |
| 01:26:56 | jnc | :P |
| 01:26:57 | sharpe | or for, a media center type thing... |
| 01:27:09 | XavierGr | argh 100 minutes remaining |
| 01:30:56 | petur | strange, the playlist viewer only loads 200 tracks at a time, so it shouldn't matter if you have 4000 or 6500 tracks - unless having 6500 tracks already causes the problem |
| 01:31:02 | amiconn | jnc: Amiga! |
| 01:31:19 | jnc | sure |
| 01:31:27 | jnc | amiconn: http://emile.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:31:32 | * | amiconn still *uses* an Amiga |
| 01:31:45 | jnc | well Amiga was decent hardware design unlike Apple |
| 01:31:57 | jnc | Apple hardware is crippled in ways to ghastly to mention |
| 01:32:12 | kinnee | english? |
| 01:32:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | petur: Has anyone tried it with a smaller list, even just the ~1000 range? Maybe it's just scrolling faster than the playlist viewer can load them then. |
| 01:33:00 | petur | that's no problem |
| 01:33:02 | XavierGr | I just tried with ~3500 files |
| 01:33:20 | XavierGr | the only bug I encountered was the playback bug |
| 01:33:21 | petur | if you scroll faster it stops a bit and you see the last line isn't a track |
| 01:33:34 | * | amiconn is really curious how this 4GB MMC will perform |
| 01:33:51 | amiconn | It will be fat32 formatted, unlike all the smaller MMCs |
| 01:34:44 | * | amiconn will have a flash player with more capacity than any other player on the market has built-in :-P |
| 01:36:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:36:53 | RedBreva | Ok on H140 with 5450 files... |
| 01:37:43 | XavierGr | what? |
| 01:38:13 | * | scottder wonders what an MMC is |
| 01:38:14 | scottder | :) |
| 01:38:18 | sharpe | what was i going to do? |
| 01:38:29 | BHSPitLappy | scottder: imagine a SD card... but older |
| 01:38:29 | BHSPitLappy | :) |
| 01:38:32 | amiconn | Hmm, if we are going to implement the MMC4.1 protocol, we'll have a similar problem as we have with HDs >128GB |
| 01:38:37 | Mikachu | MultiMedia Card |
| 01:38:46 | scottder | Oooh THOSE MMC :) |
| 01:39:19 | amiconn | The USB->MMC bridge in the Ondio won't support MMC4.1 |
| 01:39:35 | amiconn | ...but unlike on the HD based players, we have an advantage |
| 01:39:40 | markun | is scottder the same guy as quan? |
| 01:40:12 | amiconn | We can deny handing control of an MMC >4GB to the bridge, and advise the user to use an external card reader |
| 01:40:12 | Mikachu | no, kinnee is |
| 01:40:19 | scottder | Umm no... |
| 01:40:26 | petur | there are several cox.net users here... |
| 01:40:37 | Mikachu | only those two right now |
| 01:40:42 | sharpe | and i'm not one of them... ahah! heheh... |
| 01:40:51 | scottder | he was at a differnet locale :) |
| 01:41:13 | scottder | ip70-162-15-8.ph.ph.cox.net |
| 01:41:15 | scottder | that was him |
| 01:41:33 | scottder | I'm in RI |
| 01:41:42 | petur | yes, I see it now |
| 01:41:49 | | Quit Ribs ("Leaving") |
| 01:42:16 | sharpe | i wonder how much performance gain i'll get in the emulator by removing those lines.. |
| 01:42:23 | Mikachu | which ones? |
| 01:42:37 | sharpe | ones that called yield() every once in a while.. |
| 01:42:46 | petur | ugh |
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| 01:44:00 | sharpe | of course, i won't really be able to tell, as i'm going to use the sim |
| 01:44:26 | sharpe | maybe not. |
| 01:44:30 | Mikachu | i want atari st so i can play wizball |
| 01:44:39 | sharpe | too bad, you get the c64. |
| 01:44:40 | sharpe | :D |
| 01:45:04 | BHSPitLappy | work on n64 |
| 01:45:20 | Mikachu | heh |
| 01:46:07 | sharpe | before i try the version with the removed lines, i get 11.11fps at about 120% cpu emulation... |
| 01:46:11 | BHSPitLappy | ah, ocarina of time on my ipod... sounds... frustrating |
| 01:46:12 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 01:46:42 | sharpe | the only problem is... emulating... like, 15 buttons using... 6... |
| 01:47:09 | petur | ipod will be fun then :P |
| 01:47:18 | Mikachu | wizball only used a four direction and one button joystick |
| 01:47:33 | sharpe | so did the c64 :) |
| 01:50:36 | sharpe | wooo! that had absolutely no affect on it at all. |
| 01:52:48 | sharpe | guess i know what i can take out of the code. |
| 01:53:48 | Mikachu | ~/dl/stsound/bin/stsoundc =(lha p Beverly\ Hills\ Cop\(Axel\ F\).ym|tail -n +4) |
| 01:53:53 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 01:53:55 | Mikachu | i wonder if there's a more user friendly ym player for linux |
| 01:54:45 | Mikachu | these files are 1kB each btw, would be nice with a plugin :) |
| 01:55:30 | | Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") |
| 01:56:10 | preglow | oooh, ym |
| 01:56:20 | Mikachu | this one isn't even open source |
| 01:56:21 | preglow | sweet, sweet fm |
| 01:56:41 | Mikachu | do you agree that the xenon ingame music is the best ever? |
| 01:56:50 | | Quit RedBreva ("Time for Tubby ByeBye") |
| 01:57:00 | preglow | nah |
| 01:57:07 | Mikachu | it can drive any person insane |
| 01:57:20 | Mikachu | 7+8 beat is weird |
| 01:59:45 | Mikachu | maybe i should use this as my alarm clock |
| 02:00 |
| 02:01:05 | sharpe | heheh... the sim build of c64box has ~3800% cpu emulation... |
| 02:01:33 | | Quit anathema ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 02:06:53 | amiconn | roC64 |
| 02:07:57 | sharpe | hmm... |
| 02:08:09 | sharpe | it's better to limit the framerate. |
| 02:08:12 | sharpe | way, better. |
| 02:08:25 | XavierGr | petur: the bug is valid |
| 02:08:43 | XavierGr | I tried to page scroll on a playlist with 6800 entries and it froze. |
| 02:11:33 | kinnee | any additional themes avaiable for rockbox? |
| 02:12:10 | BHSPitLappy | hey there, troll |
| 02:12:17 | kinnee | huh? |
| 02:12:41 | kinnee | any additional themes avaiable for rockbox? |
| 02:13:01 | sharpe | gah, i think i am becoming dyslexic... i see illrate as illiterate, and imitate and intimate... |
| 02:13:15 | kinnee | yea, agreed. you're probably an idiot |
| 02:13:25 | BHSPitLappy | kinnee: you're not going to spam, "rockbox: You get what you paid for"? |
| 02:13:32 | kinnee | rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 02:13:36 | sharpe | now that you've said it.. |
| 02:13:45 | kinnee | hey I have some questions about rockbox |
| 02:13:47 | kinnee | can someone help me out? |
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| 02:13:57 | Eddward | Mikachu, did you want me earlier? |
| 02:14:06 | kinnee | I thought of a great feature that rockbox can use: Not Sucking |
| 02:14:10 | kinnee | what do you think? |
| 02:14:28 | kinnee | it can be implimented cross platform |
| 02:14:31 | XavierGr | go fuck youself, that's what I think |
| 02:14:34 | XavierGr | abusing troll |
| 02:14:42 | BHSPitLappy | by "kinnee", don't you mean, "pr0t"? |
| 02:14:45 | sharpe | i was actually going to be nice, but, nevermind. |
| 02:14:45 | Mikachu | Eddward: heh, no |
| 02:15:01 | | Part kinnee ("Requested by Eddward.") |
| 02:15:07 | BHSPitLappy | sharpe: don't bother, he's an old-fashioned troll |
| 02:15:15 | XavierGr | that was nice good ridance |
| 02:15:17 | Mikachu | that's just a regular /part |
| 02:15:17 | BHSPitLappy | he's earned so many k-lines on freenode |
| 02:15:39 | sharpe | BHSPitLappy: i know |
| 02:16:42 | sharpe | well, i seem to get accurate frames per seconds on the emulator, 22.22/25 @ 117% cpu emulation. |
| 02:19:04 | Eddward | Who's kinnee, and how did I request he/she be kicked? |
| 02:19:30 | preglow | haha |
| 02:19:30 | preglow | don |
| 02:19:35 | preglow | don't care as long as it's working |
| 02:19:43 | Mikachu | Eddward: you didn't |
| 02:19:47 | Mikachu | he's trying to trick you |
| 02:20:33 | Eddward | good enough. It's been fun all. Bye |
| 02:20:44 | | Quit Eddward ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.13/20060508]") |
| 02:21:30 | sharpe | would it seem like a nice idea for me to implement a debugger in the emulator? |
| 02:23:02 | | Join kinnee [0] (i=kinnee@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:23:04 | kinnee | Rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 02:23:04 | kinnee | Rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 02:23:04 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK kinnee |
| 02:23:04 | kinnee | Rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 02:23:04 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 02:23:04 | kinnee | Rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 02:23:05 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 02:23:05 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 02:23:05 | kinnee | Rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 02:23:07 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 02:23:07 | kinnee | Rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 02:23:09 | | Part kinnee |
| 02:23:20 | Mikachu | so much time, so little to do |
| 02:23:22 | scottder | Like you could do any better.... |
| 02:23:34 | XavierGr | ? |
| 02:23:58 | | Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") |
| 02:24:02 | scottder | kinnee, I am amazed you know how to turn a computer on |
| 02:24:03 | BHSPitLappy | the lack of purpose in life like that, astounds me |
| 02:24:14 | BHSPitLappy | scottder: umm, he's gone |
| 02:24:15 | midkay | scottder, um, he's gone. :) |
| 02:24:18 | midkay | haha. |
| 02:24:19 | midkay | whoa. |
| 02:24:24 | scottder | hrrm odd |
| 02:24:32 | BHSPitLappy | and he's an infamous, unstoppable troll |
| 02:24:47 | BHSPitLappy | don't try to defeat him with "rational argument", you'll just end up losing |
| 02:25:12 | sharpe | okay... what to do with the emulator next? |
| 02:25:13 | | Join kqqeed [0] (i=kinnee@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:25:14 | kqqeed | 02.24.47 # <BHSPitLappy> don't try to defeat him with "rational argument", you'll just end up losing |
| 02:25:16 | | Part kqqeed |
| 02:25:29 | scottder | he has an open ftp port |
| 02:25:30 | scottder | ;) |
| 02:25:31 | midkay | similar, one might add, to trying to defeat BHSPitLappy with rational argument. |
| 02:25:36 | BHSPitLappy | thanks for the quote, kinnee@ip70-162-120-243 |
| 02:25:40 | midkay | just kidding! jay-kay. |
| 02:25:58 | Mikachu | scottder: he's very aware of that |
| 02:26:02 | sharpe | and even more similarly, trying to understand sharpe with rational statements. |
| 02:26:20 | scottder | must be where he keeps his l33t warez |
| 02:26:22 | scottder | :) |
| 02:26:24 | BHSPitLappy | "The troll is a peculiar and astounding creature. Beware its powerful mandibles and negligible intellect!" |
| 02:27:13 | BHSPitLappy | it is, scottder |
| 02:29:21 | BHSPitLappy | haha |
| 02:29:29 | midkay | hahahaha. |
| 02:29:32 | BHSPitLappy | I started browsing his FTP, and he started repeatedly kicking me |
| 02:29:47 | | Join wwukff [0] (i=kinnee@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:29:48 | wwukff | Rofl, you stupid n00bies having fun with my ftp? Lmfao get a life. |
| 02:29:48 | BHSPitLappy | seems he figured out how to ban now :) |
| 02:29:48 | wwukff | Rofl, you stupid n00bies having fun with my ftp? Lmfao get a life. |
| 02:29:48 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 02:29:48 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK wwukff |
| 02:29:48 | wwukff | Rofl, you stupid n00bies having fun with my ftp? Lmfao get a life. |
| 02:29:48 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 02:29:48 | *** | Alert Mode level 7 |
| 02:29:48 | wwukff | Rofl, you stupid n00bies having fun with my ftp? Lmfao get a life. |
| 02:29:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 8 |
| 02:29:50 | wwukff | Rofl, you stupid n00bies having fun with my ftp? Lmfao get a life. |
| 02:29:54 | | Part wwukff |
| 02:30:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 6 minutes and 44 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:30:01 | * | preglow kicks Bagder |
| 02:30:05 | * | preglow kicks Bagder again |
| 02:30:21 | sharpe | wouldn't you feel horrible if bagder was dead? |
| 02:30:25 | BHSPitLappy | hahaha |
| 02:30:29 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 02:30:34 | Mikachu | time for another /stats p maybe |
| 02:30:41 | preglow | kicking a corpse is less of a crime than kicking someone alive |
| 02:30:41 | preglow | so no |
| 02:30:43 | Mikachu | oh no, 0 staff members online |
| 02:30:48 | sharpe | he could be at his computer, dead, on the keyboard. |
| 02:31:22 | preglow | he could also be running around the streets throwing feces at people |
| 02:31:34 | preglow | the possibilities are endless |
| 02:31:39 | sharpe | yeh. |
| 02:31:44 | Mikachu | yeah, we swedes are known to do that |
| 02:31:47 | sharpe | but that involves the legal system. |
| 02:32:41 | sharpe | in most countries, anyway |
| 02:33:13 | preglow | sharpe: besides, if he was dead on the keyboard, where are the telltale signs of "< Bagder> gdfbskeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee " |
| 02:33:36 | ze | preglow: he didn't fall on the enter key |
| 02:33:39 | BHSPitLappy | preglow: but what are the chances his head would roll over to the ENTER key |
| 02:33:47 | sharpe | especially after he's dead. |
| 02:33:58 | BHSPitLappy | Does Bagder have cats? |
| 02:34:15 | preglow | he was balancing on his nose on the e key for a while |
| 02:34:15 | sharpe | is he like the crazy old woman who has twenty catS? |
| 02:34:18 | preglow | then tipped over |
| 02:34:52 | BHSPitLappy | preglow: but if he went from G to E, he was rolling left |
| 02:34:58 | sharpe | heheh. |
| 02:35:01 | sharpe | dvorak! |
| 02:35:04 | BHSPitLappy | which would take that tip over to CAPS LOCK and TAB |
| 02:35:07 | BHSPitLappy | hahaha |
| 02:35:17 | BHSPitLappy | didn't consider that |
| 02:35:20 | sharpe | mmhmm |
| 02:35:29 | sharpe | i don't even know the layout of a dvorak keyboard |
| 02:35:52 | sharpe | but it's a 50/50 chance that E is left of G. |
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| 02:36:34 | Mikachu | it's to the left on dvorak too |
| 02:36:46 | sharpe | oh well. |
| 02:37:07 | sharpe | just keep picking keyboard layouts until g is to the left of e |
| 02:37:10 | sharpe | :) |
| 02:37:21 | preglow | he bounced |
| 02:37:23 | preglow | simple enough |
| 02:37:36 | preglow | bounced a couple of times, balanced on his nose for half a minute, then rolled |
| 02:37:37 | preglow | simple |
| 02:37:48 | sharpe | chemical reactions in muscles? |
| 02:38:02 | preglow | no, firecrackers |
| 02:38:06 | midkay | or maybe linus came in and thought it'd be pretty funny to tap enter. |
| 02:38:08 | kerivv | −−- Log for 14.05.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox |
| 02:38:10 | kerivv | −−- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 19 days ago |
| 02:38:11 | * | scottder utilizes some contacts he has at cox :) |
| 02:38:13 | kerivv | 00.00.45 # <preglow> flac is fast like hell on ipod too, yeah |
| 02:38:15 | kerivv | 00.00.46 # * amiconn wants more ffmpeg optimised codecs in rockbox :/ |
| 02:38:18 | kerivv | 00.01.00 # <preglow> amiconn: we'll hopefully have aac soon |
| 02:38:20 | kerivv | 00.01.16 # <petur> jnc: rockbox increases cpu frequency when it needs more processing power, this is called boosting |
| 02:38:23 | kerivv | 00.01.24 # <amiconn> The ffmpeg people seem to really know what they're doing... |
| 02:38:25 | kerivv | 00.01.27 # <jnc> ohhh |
| 02:38:27 | sharpe | awww, he's quoting the log... |
| 02:38:28 | kerivv | 00.01.32 # <Paul_The_Nerd> jnc: In Rockbox, the CPUs run at one of two speeds. Normal and boosted. If a codec is slow, it has to boost occasionally to fill up the PCM buffer from time to time. Boost ratio (how often and for how long) is often used to approximate how fast a codec is relative to others. |
| 02:38:30 | kerivv | 00.01.34 # <jnc> powersaving measure? |
| 02:38:31 | preglow | wow |
| 02:38:31 | | Join Badger [0] (i=kinnee@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:38:32 | kerivv | 00.01.35 # * amiconn remembers the old libflac thing... |
| 02:38:35 | kerivv | 00.02.13 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-14-76.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:38:37 | kerivv | 00.02.13 # <scottder> Hmmm i may rip some stuff to wavpack and flac....see what kind of battery life I get |
| 02:38:40 | kerivv | 00.02.24 Join fiftyfour123 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-66-108-136-179.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 02:38:42 | kerivv | 00.02.26 # <preglow> amiconn: don't mention it again |
| 02:38:44 | XavierGr | Bagder? |
| 02:38:45 | kerivv | 00.02.42 # <preglow> whoever wrote that code should be shot |
| 02:38:47 | kerivv | 00.02.48 # <preglow> again and again |
| 02:38:47 | XavierGr | Save us |
| 02:38:50 | Mikachu | XavierGr: look again |
| 02:38:50 | kerivv | 00.04.01 # <markun> trying to use oo programming in c iirc |
| 02:38:50 | midkay | baDGer. |
| 02:38:51 | preglow | badger... |
| 02:38:52 | scottder | He knows how to cut and paste.... |
| 02:38:52 | kerivv | 00.04.10 # <preglow> and overdoing it |
| 02:38:53 | midkay | not him. |
| 02:38:55 | kerivv | 00.04.12 # <jnc> gggg gaim. |
| 02:38:57 | kerivv | 00.04.14 # <jnc> ;) |
| 02:39:00 | kerivv | 00.04.38 # <amiconn> Someone should perform a thorough codec performance comparison both on coldfire and pp |
| 02:39:02 | kerivv | 00.04.43 # <preglow> yup |
| 02:39:06 | kerivv | 00.04.57 # <preglow> when 3.0 is out, i'll do a bit of codec optimisation |
| 02:39:07 | kerivv | 00.06.29 # <sharpe> i wonder what i should do... |
| 02:39:09 | XavierGr | :( |
| 02:39:10 | kerivv | 00.06.39 # <fiftyfour123> can anyone help me with my problem here: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11247 |
| 02:39:12 | kerivv | 00.06.55 Quit fiftyfour123 (Client Quit) |
| 02:39:13 | Mode | "#RockBox +b *!*n=stew@*.sercomtel.com.br " by HedgeMage (i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage) |
| 02:39:20 | | Part Badger |
| 02:39:26 | | Quit kerivv (Client Quit) |
| 02:39:46 | XavierGr | As if he has a job to do!!! |
| 02:39:51 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 02:40:51 | sharpe | meh, what should i do next on the emulator? i can think of anything other than work on the graphics modes, but i don't want to do those. |
| 02:41:00 | scottder | we're all so newb compared to him |
| 02:41:02 | scottder | :) |
| 02:41:22 | jnc | sharpe: i don't know enough about it to brainstorm with ya, sorry mate |
| 02:41:33 | sharpe | heh |
| 02:42:12 | | Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dslb-084-056-065-219.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 02:42:38 | sharpe | why do i have the save-state functions in memory.h....? |
| 02:44:26 | | Quit Galois ("Leaving") |
| 02:44:30 | | Quit obo ("bye") |
| 02:44:34 | | Join livin [0] (n=livin@200-233-122-102.sercomtel.com.br) |
| 02:45:00 | | Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 02:45:04 | scottder | hmmm livin can't be kerivv |
| 02:45:07 | scottder | not at all |
| 02:45:17 | preglow | hell no |
| 02:45:21 | sharpe | i have a function for calculating the crc32 of some data..., without a table... i'm that bored... |
| 02:45:24 | preglow | that'd indicate some kind of idiotic persistance |
| 02:45:40 | | Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) |
| 02:45:41 | livin | since when does crc32 need a table to calculate |
| 02:45:52 | | Quit damaki_ ("You're entering a world of pain") |
| 02:45:58 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 02:46:00 | scottder | maybe he'll cut and paste more! |
| 02:46:01 | BHSPitLappy | that troll from earlier |
| 02:46:07 | sharpe | heh |
| 02:46:07 | scottder | cuz that is fricken GENIUS |
| 02:46:12 | BHSPitLappy | he's serving all his software |
| 02:46:23 | BHSPitLappy | and he's got all these anonymity programs |
| 02:46:27 | BHSPitLappy | effing kid |
| 02:46:44 | livin | effing? |
| 02:46:47 | livin | oh, you mean FUCKING |
| 02:46:51 | scottder | well we are all n00b comnpared to him |
| 02:47:00 | BHSPitLappy | "Ari's HTTPS Server" |
| 02:47:04 | livin | yea? who is this guy? |
| 02:47:15 | sharpe | any meaningful extension using 'sta', anyone? |
| 02:47:15 | BHSPitLappy | the guy who was spamming in here earlier |
| 02:47:21 | BHSPitLappy | and in #ipodlinux |
| 02:47:27 | BHSPitLappy | an old friend of freenode |
| 02:47:35 | livin | everyone is a noob except for him? |
| 02:47:37 | livin | what? |
| 02:48:40 | preglow | livin: ?????????????++ |
| 02:48:53 | scottder | bet the MPAA would love to see all the movies he has |
| 02:49:07 | scottder | RIAA might like the music too |
| 02:49:30 | | Join Hideo_Kuze [0] (n=irc@tor/session/external/x-e43bb9906e008041) |
| 02:49:42 | livin | why is BHSPitLappy calling everyone a n00b? thats not cool |
| 02:50:55 | sharpe | does a byte telling if the saved state is in little or big endian format, suffice to anyone that cares? |
| 02:51:22 | livin | lol waste of memory |
| 02:51:30 | livin | no wonder rockbox crashes all the time |
| 02:51:35 | sharpe | yeah, those lost seven bits. |
| 02:51:46 | sharpe | damn me and my wastefulness. |
| 02:51:55 | preglow | damn you to hell |
| 02:51:55 | livin | thats what I said, yea |
| 02:52:27 | scottder | wow and maybe livin will pass puberty and have something better to do |
| 02:52:29 | scottder | don't like it |
| 02:52:29 | preglow | livin: kekekekekekke |
| 02:52:31 | scottder | use something else |
| 02:52:31 | sharpe | i should be able to fit the contents of the emulator ram into those seven bits. but no, i've got to use them for blank space. |
| 02:52:37 | scottder | or write your own |
| 02:52:43 | scottder | whiny bitch |
| 02:52:43 | scottder | :) |
| 02:52:52 | livin | I did write my own, its called spambox |
| 02:53:01 | sharpe | how ironic. |
| 02:53:08 | preglow | no |
| 02:53:17 | preglow | i don't believe he is capable of irony |
| 02:53:25 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 02:53:40 | XavierGr | livid how old are you anyway? |
| 02:53:44 | livin | if you try hard enough, eventually you'll say something that may be called an insult |
| 02:53:53 | livin | so far its just bitching and whining, still funny though |
| 02:53:56 | preglow | it's nice to see we're all getting so used to having a resident fucknut here that we've started conversing with him |
| 02:54:00 | * | Mikachu throws an infinite number of monkeys and a typewriter at livin |
| 02:54:17 | livin | wow Mikachu is still the same old utter faggot he was at ocremix |
| 02:54:30 | livin | go catchemall fag |
| 02:54:43 | * | scottder threw him back in ignore...and did some emailing :) |
| 02:54:55 | livin | lol more email threats |
| 02:55:34 | courtc | What a strange channel. |
| 02:55:37 | Hideo_Kuze | hmmm, how hard would it be for us to nmap the guy with the cox isp earlier with decoys and practically syn flood him? |
| 02:55:44 | livin | after roughly 2.5 years of random fags sending whiny emails to my proxy's isp at cox, I must conclude they all wasted their time |
| 02:55:45 | livin | lmfao |
| 02:55:48 | XavierGr | livin: in case you didn't notice: how old are you anyway? |
| 02:55:58 | Mode | "#RockBox +b *!*n=livin@*.sercomtel.com.br " by HedgeMage (i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage) |
| 02:56:11 | preglow | good |
| 02:56:11 | Hideo_Kuze | livin: get off now or you'll be dosed off |
| 02:56:52 | HedgeMage | Hideo_Kuze: illegal activities are off-topic on freenode. |
| 02:57:04 | courtc | preglow: is there a dev channel? or perhaps even more remote, an ipod dev channel? |
| 02:57:13 | Hideo_Kuze | ok |
| 02:57:16 | preglow | there is a dev channel |
| 02:57:19 | preglow | but people don't like using it |
| 02:57:22 | | Quit livin (Client Quit) |
| 02:57:24 | | Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") |
| 02:57:30 | Hideo_Kuze | sorry he just annoyed me |
| 02:57:43 | | Join livin [0] (n=livim@200-233-122-102.sercomtel.com.br) |
| 02:57:46 | HedgeMage | it's okay, he is quite annoying. |
| 02:57:53 | Hideo_Kuze | he's back |
| 02:58:01 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:03 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:04 | sharpe | he loves us! |
| 02:58:05 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK livin |
| 02:58:05 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:07 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 02:58:09 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:11 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 02:58:11 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 102 |
| 02:58:11 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:13 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 103 |
| 02:58:13 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 203 |
| 02:58:13 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:15 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 204 |
| 02:58:15 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 304 |
| 02:58:15 | livin | HedgeMage needs to learn how to use ops. Too bad hes a fucking n00b. Oh well.. Live and N00b. |
| 02:58:15 | courtc | preglow: people, as in devs or users? |
| 02:58:21 | scottder | Live and Noob?? what does that even mean |
| 02:58:24 | | Quit livin (K-lined) |
| 02:58:25 | preglow | courtc: devs |
| 02:58:32 | scottder | hahahaha |
| 02:58:32 | preglow | courtc: i don't really want users in a dev channel anyway, heh |
| 02:58:36 | HedgeMage | how's that for learning to use it? ;D |
| 02:58:39 | courtc | heh |
| 02:59:16 | Mikachu | i hate annoying people with irc bouncers in 50 places |
| 02:59:22 | Mode | "#RockBox +b %#rockbox!*@* " by HedgeMage (i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage) |
| 02:59:23 | preglow | i hate irc bounces |
| 02:59:29 | HedgeMage | darnit wrong one |
| 02:59:38 | BHSPitLappy | Hideo_Kuze: hehe, I actually DID nmap that guy |
| 02:59:38 | scottder | What's that I hear....the souund of a prepubescent screaming in the distance |
| 02:59:39 | ashridah | whoa |
| 02:59:48 | Mode | "#RockBox -b %#rockbox!*@* " by HedgeMage (i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage) |
| 02:59:48 | Mode | "#RockBox -m " by HedgeMage (i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage) |
| 02:59:56 | HedgeMage | sorry, bad alias :( |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:00 | BHSPitLappy | found an open VNC port, as well as HTTPS and FTP |
| 03:00:00 | scottder | heh |
| 03:00:15 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:00:15 | * | HedgeMage beats her aliases to death and does it manually |
| 03:00:15 | BHSPitLappy | wish I knew how to crack VNC passwords, that would be pretty funny |
| 03:00:28 | Mikachu | BHSPitLappy: it's probably all a sandbox to make you happy |
| 03:00:28 | Mode | "#RockBox +b %*!*@*.sercomtel.com.br " by HedgeMage (i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage) |
| 03:00:33 | HedgeMage | much better |
| 03:00:37 | Mikachu | he knows exactly what he's doing |
| 03:00:42 | HedgeMage | he can still get in, but he can't talk |
| 03:00:44 | BHSPitLappy | Mikachu: doubtful. VERY. |
| 03:00:56 | Hideo_Kuze | BHSPitLappy: the whole 65535 ports? |
| 03:01:05 | HedgeMage | that way if an innocent user is caught they can /msg someone and ask for an exception |
| 03:01:06 | | Join hitti [0] (n=tharg@tor/session/external/x-fb1238f2fbc4784d) |
| 03:01:06 | BHSPitLappy | Hideo_Kuze: no, just the basics. |
| 03:01:16 | XavierGr | here we go again |
| 03:01:18 | * | HedgeMage sighs |
| 03:01:26 | Hideo_Kuze | is that him? |
| 03:01:31 | Hideo_Kuze | I'm using tor too |
| 03:01:42 | | Join Astinus [0] (i=alex@freenode/staff/gentoo.astinus) |
| 03:01:49 | HedgeMage | we'll know in about five minutes :P |
| 03:01:55 | BHSPitLappy | here's what our friend does in his free time https://70.162.120.243/Movies/f-115.swf |
| 03:02:26 | Hideo_Kuze | blah flash files |
| 03:02:31 | HedgeMage | Astinus: had to get extreme and +q the isp... troll had a dynamic IP |
| 03:02:44 | hitti | huh? |
| 03:02:52 | * | Astinus hrms |
| 03:03:03 | * | Astinus shrugs |
| 03:03:18 | HedgeMage | I don't like doing that, but at least on a small chan it's less likely to hit real users |
| 03:03:21 | Mikachu | BHSPitLappy: he's actually a pretty good composer |
| 03:03:31 | preglow | assholes can be that |
| 03:03:34 | XavierGr | arfenhouse LOL |
| 03:03:35 | Mikachu | annoying as hell on irc though |
| 03:04:15 | courtc | preglow: anyway, it's a shame. It's good to have a low-noise env, guess I'll have to rely on you posting any interesting stuff in #ipodlinux-dev :p |
| 03:04:27 | preglow | well, i'm in the dev channel... |
| 03:04:35 | preglow | if other people want to join, they can |
| 03:04:48 | sharpe | yay! |
| 03:04:49 | courtc | Yes, but do you *use* it? |
| 03:04:54 | XavierGr | he stole excel saga theme too |
| 03:05:01 | preglow | there are no one to talk to there, so no |
| 03:05:16 | sharpe | wow. he likes married with children. |
| 03:05:28 | Hideo_Kuze | oh Mikachu ctcp VERSION doesn't work on me :) |
| 03:06:03 | Hideo_Kuze | he's somewhere in atlanta |
| 03:07:25 | preglow | time for me to totter off |
| 03:07:25 | preglow | night |
| 03:07:47 | Hideo_Kuze | nite |
| 03:07:59 | scottder | Later preglow |
| 03:08:02 | sharpe | don't act a fool too much now. |
| 03:08:16 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 03:09:24 | Hideo_Kuze | since I'm here, I have a question to ask, why is it that the cvs build table has the ipod 3g all green and yet there is no zip file for it? |
| 03:09:25 | scottder | when his mom finds out why the internet got shut off he'll be SO grounded |
| 03:09:26 | scottder | :) |
| 03:09:49 | BHSPitLappy | Mikachu: lol |
| 03:10:17 | BHSPitLappy | Mikachu: are you a music buff ( in that sense ) ? |
| 03:11:10 | ashridah | Hideo_Kuze: usually that's the case if the actual code being built isn't complete enough to run, but it could just be that no-one's bothered to add it onto the page yet |
| 03:11:50 | Hideo_Kuze | ah, and there also isn't a bootloader for the 3g yet right? |
| 03:13:06 | sharpe | isn't the macro defined for endian swapping a 32 bit value, SWAP32 ? |
| 03:13:30 | Mikachu | Hideo_Kuze: i figured since you're on tor |
| 03:13:42 | Mikachu | BHSPitLappy: in what sense? |
| 03:14:06 | BHSPitLappy | Mikachu: in the sense of, say, a band nerd, or someone who would take Music Theory :P |
| 03:14:11 | Mikachu | no |
| 03:14:17 | BHSPitLappy | as opposed to someone with an extensive knowledge of Zeppelin or something |
| 03:14:22 | BHSPitLappy | k |
| 03:15:15 | Mikachu | this is him, http://www.ocremix.org/remixer/protricity/ |
| 03:16:30 | BHSPitLappy | erm... composition != remix |
| 03:16:53 | BHSPitLappy | wow |
| 03:16:53 | XavierGr | exactly |
| 03:16:57 | BHSPitLappy | 22, and that annoying |
| 03:16:57 | Mikachu | it's a fine line in game remixing |
| 03:17:15 | * | Mikachu is listening to Rayza VS Sonic - Free Life Ditty (100 Reasons Mix) (0:01 / 1:41) |
| 03:17:18 | | Quit ashridah ("Leaving") |
| 03:17:18 | BHSPitLappy | stunning; I expected at least 10 years younger than that |
| 03:17:19 | Mikachu | the original track is 7 seconds |
| 03:17:28 | Hideo_Kuze | wait that's the ahole that just spammed us? |
| 03:17:33 | BHSPitLappy | yep |
| 03:17:39 | Hideo_Kuze | ahaha |
| 03:17:45 | XavierGr | Is he Ari Asulin? |
| 03:17:47 | BHSPitLappy | see the alias, "Protricity" aka PROT |
| 03:17:57 | BHSPitLappy | and his IP led me to "Ari's HTTPS site" |
| 03:18:08 | XavierGr | hahaha |
| 03:18:10 | Hideo_Kuze | wow, idiot |
| 03:18:14 | scottder | "I'm 22 and my music owns you." |
| 03:18:15 | XavierGr | he has his mail there |
| 03:18:18 | scottder | hhahahahaha |
| 03:18:18 | BHSPitLappy | he's a regular to freenode's k-line list |
| 03:18:25 | Hideo_Kuze | now we have his real name, and where he went to school |
| 03:18:30 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 03:18:35 | XavierGr | lol I will send his mail on every porn site I can imagine!!!! |
| 03:18:38 | Hideo_Kuze | and his face |
| 03:18:45 | BHSPitLappy | and his face! |
| 03:19:00 | BHSPitLappy | XavierGr: EVERY single place in your bookmarks list? :O |
| 03:19:02 | Mikachu | that email is probably dead since long |
| 03:19:36 | XavierGr | BHSPitLappy: Hehe |
| 03:20:01 | XavierGr | Mikachu: Worths the try |
| 03:21:10 | BHSPitLappy | I'm not finding his stuff impressive from a "composition" standpoint |
| 03:21:11 | Hideo_Kuze | "I'm 22 and my music owns you. Only important thing to know about me is this; if you actually get upset when I call you a fag, then you are a fag. afk" |
| 03:21:14 | Hideo_Kuze | sounds like him |
| 03:21:45 | scottder | because we're all n00b |
| 03:22:28 | XavierGr | his face reveales everything about him!! :D |
| 03:22:29 | | Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dslb-084-056-065-219.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:23:11 | Hideo_Kuze | "The most influential life ever lived" yeah, irc trolling |
| 03:23:24 | BHSPitLappy | haha |
| 03:23:26 | XavierGr | 22 and troller. |
| 03:23:34 | XavierGr | This world is sure strange |
| 03:23:36 | Hideo_Kuze | bibliography of a troller |
| 03:23:38 | BHSPitLappy | 22 at the time he wrote that bio |
| 03:23:42 | BHSPitLappy | probably older by now |
| 03:23:52 | BHSPitLappy | Hideo_Kuze: biblio != bio |
| 03:23:59 | Hideo_Kuze | oops |
| 03:24:05 | Hideo_Kuze | excuse moi |
| 03:24:13 | BHSPitLappy | moi is excused |
| 03:25:42 | Hideo_Kuze | so anyway, who was last working on the ipod 3g? |
| 03:29:18 | Hideo_Kuze | "http://rentalarizona.com/detail.php?siteid=445" has his cell phone number on it too |
| 03:31:28 | scottder | His AIM works :) |
| 03:36:17 | Hideo_Kuze | man this guy leaves such a long digital trail |
| 03:36:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:37:39 | sharpe | time to the the horror of my attempt at a save-state type thing for the emulator |
| 03:37:50 | sharpe | that made no sense, at all... |
| 03:37:58 | | Quit Astinus ("Be right back...") |
| 03:39:40 | scottder | Ari has no musical background, training, education or instruction. For the most part, music making seems a very natural thing to him and he believes all that is required is a creative mind and a lot of patience. |
| 03:42:26 | | Part HedgeMage |
| 03:43:00 | scottder | Anyway |
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| 03:45:15 | | Nick BoD[] is now known as BoD[away] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) |
| 03:47:37 | | Part jpmahala |
| 03:49:13 | | Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) |
| 03:55:22 | | Quit midkay ("Leaving") |
| 03:56:15 | | Join whatboutbob [0] (n=d25401b3@labb.contactor.se) |
| 04:00 |
| 04:01:19 | sharpe | i got the savestate working... |
| 04:01:49 | sharpe | i suppose my miracle for the day is done. |
| 04:02:06 | | Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 04:06:45 | * | scottder hands sharpe some water to make into....beer |
| 04:06:45 | scottder | :0 |
| 04:07:28 | sharpe | i'm jesus? |
| 04:07:36 | scottder | beer not wine |
| 04:07:37 | scottder | :) |
| 04:07:42 | sharpe | same concept |
| 04:07:58 | * | scottder hands sharpe malt hops and yeast as well |
| 04:08:00 | scottder | :) |
| 04:08:08 | sharpe | lol... |
| 04:08:21 | sharpe | the only thing is, i think the crc's are not correct... |
| 04:08:29 | | Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") |
| 04:08:51 | scottder | what are you trying to do? |
| 04:09:16 | sharpe | the savestate for the c64 emulator |
| 04:09:51 | sharpe | starting to think it really doesn't matter if i have a crc for making sure it's correct. |
| 04:10:59 | sharpe | eh, i'll try this. |
| 04:11:16 | scottder | Ahh |
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| 04:12:19 | sharpe | heh, it's better now. |
| 04:12:20 | Falco98 | hey all |
| 04:12:24 | sharpe | hello |
| 04:12:40 | JdGordon | hey Falco98 |
| 04:12:45 | Falco98 | hey |
| 04:12:48 | scottder | as long as I can play this: |
| 04:12:50 | scottder | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bard's_Tale_(1985) |
| 04:12:51 | Falco98 | just got your PM's |
| 04:12:51 | scottder | :) |
| 04:13:06 | Falco98 | it seems great minds think alike :-P |
| 04:13:12 | JdGordon | :) |
| 04:13:17 | Falco98 | get it implemented yet? |
| 04:13:35 | sharpe | ScootScat: well, if it only used text, you could theoretically right now. |
| 04:13:38 | JdGordon | no, not yet |
| 04:13:40 | sharpe | okay... |
| 04:13:42 | Falco98 | ahh ok |
| 04:13:48 | Falco98 | it should be fairly quick tho right? |
| 04:13:48 | scottder | ScootScat? |
| 04:13:49 | scottder | :) |
| 04:13:51 | sharpe | one s is not enough for name completion. |
| 04:13:54 | sharpe | :D |
| 04:14:05 | scottder | hehehe |
| 04:14:24 | sharpe | yeah, standard text mode is the only thing implemented right now... |
| 04:14:33 | JdGordon | has any1 tryed the new fonts? |
| 04:15:38 | XavierGr | sharpe is there a patch for this c64 emulator? |
| 04:15:57 | Falco98 | what has changed with the fonts? |
| 04:16:17 | Falco98 | (and are you talking about a global change?) |
| 04:16:20 | JdGordon | about a dozen new ones |
| 04:16:31 | Falco98 | do they replace or add to the old ones? |
| 04:17:52 | | Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.10.35) |
| 04:17:56 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 04:18:04 | Falco98 | yo |
| 04:18:10 | Jungti1234 | What language is this? 'zdej uprasanje je ce bo men to sploh pasal' |
| 04:18:37 | XavierGr | french I guess? |
| 04:18:52 | Falco98 | i doubt it |
| 04:18:59 | sharpe | XavierGr: nah, there's not a patch... i'm still working on it considerably... |
| 04:19:04 | Falco98 | the only french word there is "je" |
| 04:19:13 | Falco98 | and i'm not even sure of that :-P |
| 04:19:23 | sharpe | there's an english word there |
| 04:19:37 | Falco98 | indeed |
| 04:19:46 | Falco98 | actually two :-P |
| 04:19:46 | XavierGr | which one? |
| 04:19:48 | XavierGr | men? |
| 04:19:51 | Falco98 | and "to" |
| 04:19:58 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 04:19:58 | XavierGr | ah |
| 04:20:01 | sharpe | yep. |
| 04:20:22 | sharpe | why do i hesitate to call people i should call? |
| 04:20:34 | Falco98 | who is "people" and why "should" you? |
| 04:21:29 | sharpe | "people" is my good friend who moved a considerable distance, whom i still talk to her. i "should" because, i don't know. |
| 04:21:34 | Jungti1234 | pac Ruki iz Gazette!! |
| 04:21:40 | Falco98 | gotcha |
| 04:21:44 | sharpe | yep. |
| 04:21:54 | Falco98 | i wasn't trying to challenge. been there myself ;-) |
| 04:21:57 | | Join livin [0] (i=livin@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:22:03 | scottder | ugh |
| 04:22:04 | livin | so, you faggots been talking about me for the last 2 hours eh? |
| 04:22:05 | livin | figures. |
| 04:22:13 | livin | no other lives to live |
| 04:22:16 | sharpe | can't really say we have. |
| 04:22:22 | scottder | and you're here taling to us |
| 04:22:26 | Falco98 | sharpe: don't fret, and call.. |
| 04:22:26 | sharpe | Falco98: yeah... kind of sucks. |
| 04:22:27 | livin | 03.15.15 # <Mikachu> this is him, http://www.ocremix.org/remixer/protricity/ |
| 04:22:27 | scottder | what does that say about you |
| 04:22:30 | livin | 03.16.30 # <BHSPitLappy> erm... composition != remix |
| 04:22:30 | livin | 03.16.53 # <BHSPitLappy> wow |
| 04:22:34 | livin | 03.16.57 # <BHSPitLappy> 22, and that annoying |
| 04:22:37 | livin | 03.16.57 # <Mikachu> it's a fine line in game remixing |
| 04:22:39 | livin | 03.17.15 # * Mikachu is listening to Rayza VS Sonic - Free Life Ditty (100 Reasons Mix) (0:01 / 1:41) |
| 04:22:42 | livin | 03.17.18 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") |
| 04:22:44 | livin | 03.17.18 # <BHSPitLappy> stunning; I expected at least 10 years younger than that |
| 04:22:47 | livin | 03.17.19 # <Mikachu> the original track is 7 seconds |
| 04:22:48 | Jungti1234 | um |
| 04:22:49 | livin | 03.17.28 # <Hideo_Kuze> wait that's the ahole that just spammed us? |
| 04:22:52 | livin | 03.17.33 # <BHSPitLappy> yep |
| 04:22:53 | livin | doesnt it suck to be wrong all the time? |
| 04:22:54 | livin | 03.17.39 # <Hideo_Kuze> ahaha |
| 04:22:55 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK livin |
| 04:22:55 | livin | 03.17.47 # <BHSPitLappy> see the alias, "Protricity" aka PROT |
| 04:22:55 | livin | 03.17.57 # <BHSPitLappy> and his IP led me to "Ari's HTTPS site" |
| 04:22:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 04:22:56 | livin | 03.18.08 # <XavierGr> hahaha |
| 04:22:58 | livin | 03.17.45 # <XavierGr> Is he Ari Asulin? |
| 04:23:00 | livin | 03.17.47 # <BHSPitLappy> see the alias, "Protricity" aka PROT |
| 04:23:00 | Falco98 | sharpe: maybe only try once, but still try |
| 04:23:02 | livin | 03.17.57 # <BHSPitLappy> and his IP led me to "Ari's HTTPS site" |
| 04:23:06 | livin | 3.23.38 # <BHSPitLappy> 22 at the time he wrote that bio |
| 04:23:08 | livin | 03.23.42 # <BHSPitLappy> probably older by now |
| 04:23:11 | livin | 03.23.52 # <BHSPitLappy> Hideo_Kuze: biblio != bio |
| 04:23:11 | sharpe | Falco98: i know, i'm going to. the quotation marks were for emphasis, from what you had put :D |
| 04:23:13 | livin | 03.23.59 # <Hideo_Kuze> oops |
| 04:23:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 04:23:14 | * | scottder wonders how livin got into college.... |
| 04:23:16 | livin | 03.24.05 # <Hideo_Kuze> excuse moi |
| 04:23:18 | livin | 03.24.13 # <BHSPitLappy> moi is excused |
| 04:23:21 | livin | 03.25.42 # <Hideo_Kuze> so anyway, who was last working on the ipod 3g? |
| 04:23:21 | scottder | asu must have LOW standards |
| 04:23:24 | livin | 03.29.18 # <Hideo_Kuze> "http://rentalarizona.com/detail.php?siteid=445" has his cell phone number on it too |
| 04:23:26 | livin | 03.31.28 # <scottder> His AIM works :) |
| 04:23:28 | livin | 03.39.40 # <scottder> Ari has no musical background, training, education or instruction. For the most part, music making seems a very natural thing to him and he believes all that is required is a creative mind and a lot of patience. |
| 04:23:32 | livin | 03.42.26 Part HedgeMage |
| 04:23:34 | livin | 03.43.00 # <scottder> Anyway |
| 04:23:36 | livin | 03.36.17 # <Hideo_Kuze> man this guy leaves such a long digital trail |
| 04:23:37 | Falco98 | ./ignore livin |
| 04:23:38 | livin | HAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH |
| 04:23:39 | JdGordon | kick kick kick :D |
| 04:23:40 | livin | get a life n00bs |
| 04:23:48 | | Part livin ("Requested by Falco98") |
| 04:23:52 | Falco98 | it seems to have worked, i'm not getting anything from him now |
| 04:23:52 | Jungti1234 | .... |
| 04:23:55 | Falco98 | LOL |
| 04:23:58 | scottder | heh |
| 04:24:05 | Falco98 | i didn't know it was that easy |
| 04:24:10 | sharpe | but, he's the one who sat there and read the logs... :\ |
| 04:24:20 | scottder | Wish you had done that a few hours ago Falco98 |
| 04:24:32 | Falco98 | lol |
| 04:24:36 | scottder | :) |
| 04:24:39 | Falco98 | was he the troll in here earlier? |
| 04:24:43 | scottder | Yup |
| 04:24:44 | sharpe | my cell phone has sucky reception, so it makes it so much better. |
| 04:24:45 | sharpe | aye |
| 04:24:45 | Falco98 | i forget the alias... |
| 04:24:49 | JdGordon | there u go Falco98 |
| 04:24:52 | JdGordon | now its breaky time |
| 04:24:57 | Falco98 | heh |
| 04:24:57 | Falco98 | oh |
| 04:25:00 | Falco98 | wait |
| 04:25:10 | Falco98 | u think that change should be pretty easy to do? |
| 04:25:13 | Falco98 | O:-) |
| 04:25:20 | JdGordon | which change? |
| 04:25:25 | scottder | he shut down all his services too |
| 04:25:25 | scottder | :) |
| 04:25:36 | Falco98 | changing the patch to count up or down for dir. boundaries |
| 04:25:37 | JdGordon | new patch has the coinflip thing |
| 04:25:40 | sharpe | maybe he's going to sleep |
| 04:25:45 | Falco98 | oh is it posted? |
| 04:25:49 | JdGordon | ye |
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| 04:26:03 | Falco98 | i woulda tried to code that myself but i'm not too sure what trick u use to tell where the boundary is.. |
| 04:26:08 | Falco98 | my C is way too rusty |
| 04:26:20 | | Part San ("test") |
| 04:26:23 | JdGordon | actually i added some crap which isnt needed... |
| 04:26:35 | Falco98 | oh? |
| 04:26:36 | Falco98 | like what |
| 04:26:40 | Falco98 | anything nice? |
| 04:26:51 | JdGordon | no, just stupidity :D |
| 04:26:52 | Falco98 | or so u just mean in your algorithm |
| 04:27:05 | Falco98 | which made it harder for me to figure out |
| 04:28:01 | JdGordon | dw.. ok, u need to make 1 really mionr change, whch isnt really needed... |
| 04:28:13 | Falco98 | ok? |
| 04:29:07 | sharpe | i called... |
| 04:29:24 | Falco98 | sharpe: any luck? |
| 04:29:32 | Falco98 | JdGordon: what change? |
| 04:29:33 | sharpe | Falco98: aye :) |
| 04:30:31 | Falco98 | sharpe: excellent |
| 04:30:37 | sharpe | werd. |
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| 04:32:14 | Falco98 | JdGordon: oh is "r" insertion point? |
| 04:32:57 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 04:34:18 | qwm | :\ |
| 04:34:19 | | Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) |
| 04:34:23 | qwm | wb midkay |
| 04:34:30 | sharpe | midkay! |
| 04:35:30 | midkay | yo. |
| 04:35:40 | Jungti1234 | :) hi |
| 04:35:51 | qwm | richard sharpe! |
| 04:35:59 | sharpe | huh? |
| 04:36:03 | Falco98 | hardeep: around? |
| 04:36:15 | hardeep | hey |
| 04:36:59 | Falco98 | hey |
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| 04:37:08 | | Quit San (Client Quit) |
| 04:37:09 | Falco98 | jdgordon has implemented that change it seems... |
| 04:37:14 | Falco98 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5338 |
| 04:37:21 | qwm | sharpe: it's a series of novels. |
| 04:37:23 | Falco98 | u have a chance to look at the newest patch yet? |
| 04:37:31 | qwm | sharpe, that is. |
| 04:37:38 | qwm | the main character's name is richard sharpe. |
| 04:37:47 | sharpe | ah. |
| 04:37:50 | sharpe | i see. |
| 04:37:55 | qwm | sean bean plays him in the movie adaptations.. |
| 04:38:03 | qwm | there's like 20 novels and ~15 movies. |
| 04:38:10 | hardeep | Falco98: no, not yet |
| 04:38:33 | sharpe | ooh |
| 04:38:46 | Hideo_Kuze | scottder: hehe |
| 04:38:55 | Falco98 | hardeep: k.. if you get a chance anytime soon, i'd like your opinion on it :-P |
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| 04:40:36 | hardeep | JdGordon: i see one bug. direction will be either 0 or 1 which means you'll hit an endless loop |
| 04:40:45 | afruff23 | what happened to fonts? |
| 04:40:51 | afruff23 | I can't find them |
| 04:40:51 | hardeep | you want it to be -1 or 1 |
| 04:41:11 | Falco98 | hardeep: are you taking into account the one-line codefix he posted last on the tracker? |
| 04:41:24 | Falco98 | (just makin sure..) |
| 04:41:28 | hardeep | yeah |
| 04:41:46 | hardeep | although that check should also be extended in the same way for the end of the playlist |
| 04:42:07 | Falco98 | oh, gotcha |
| 04:42:20 | Falco98 | i'm having trouble just plain figuring out what some of the variables mean :-P |
| 04:42:46 | | Quit whatboutbob ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 04:43:02 | hardeep | actually, nm about the end of playlsit check... i see the for loop handles it for you |
| 04:43:09 | Davide-NYC | midkay? |
| 04:43:22 | Falco98 | hardeep: i think he's AFK btw |
| 04:43:40 | Davide-NYC | I went through all of the hunks in the histogram patch. |
| 04:43:59 | Davide-NYC | checked whether or not the made it to the resective file. |
| 04:44:00 | afruff23 | the fotns aren't included in the builds anymorewhere can I find them? |
| 04:44:08 | afruff23 | fonts* |
| 04:44:21 | midkay | Davide-NYC, yo. |
| 04:44:25 | Davide-NYC | heya |
| 04:44:30 | Davide-NYC | problems (of course) |
| 04:44:52 | midkay | sure.. 'sup? |
| 04:44:53 | Davide-NYC | put all of the hunks when I thought they were supposed to go (only one didn;t make it actually) |
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| 04:45:08 | sharpe | midkay, i got the savestate working..g. |
| 04:45:11 | Davide-NYC | cinfigured, compiled, errors |
| 04:45:18 | Davide-NYC | :-( |
| 04:45:45 | midkay | Davide-NYC, well, if you're sure it's in the right place..? |
| 04:45:50 | midkay | it ALL needs to be merged, though.. |
| 04:45:53 | midkay | not just a few. |
| 04:45:53 | Davide-NYC | that's the thing |
| 04:46:08 | Davide-NYC | I can make certain assumption as to logical order. |
| 04:46:19 | Davide-NYC | you wanna take a lok? |
| 04:46:30 | midkay | hm. |
| 04:46:32 | Davide-NYC | I made notes and only touched four files (of relevance) |
| 04:46:45 | Davide-NYC | the other two are just .lang files |
| 04:46:54 | midkay | even easier.. |
| 04:47:05 | midkay | what's the problem? you can't figure out where they go? |
| 04:47:36 | Davide-NYC | I think the proble reallt is that the AGC patch and the Histogram patches used to be a single patch |
| 04:47:53 | Davide-NYC | I think they "step" on too many similar places and confuse the patch function |
| 04:47:58 | Davide-NYC | that's what I think |
| 04:48:06 | Davide-NYC | (boulder of salt) |
| 04:48:24 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 04:48:24 | midkay | .. but what is the problem? |
| 04:48:25 | | Quit Jungti1234 () |
| 04:48:30 | midkay | you don't see where the hunks go? |
| 04:48:34 | afruff23 | When I go to |
| 04:48:46 | afruff23 | "browse fonts" nothign coems up |
| 04:48:49 | afruff23 | nothing* |
| 04:49:13 | Davide-NYC | no I do (within a certain degree of certainty) but even after I merge the hunk (all of em) configure compile, make zip and put on the unit |
| 04:49:18 | midkay | afruff23, sigh, they're a seperate daily build zip file. |
| 04:49:23 | Davide-NYC | I do not see what I'm supposed to see |
| 04:49:35 | afruff23 | where can I find them? |
| 04:49:36 | Davide-NYC | on the player |
| 04:49:52 | midkay | afruff23, jesus, i said: daily build. how about the, um, daily builds page? |
| 04:50:05 | afruff23 | I'm there |
| 04:50:10 | afruff23 | can't find it |
| 04:50:13 | midkay | look to the right, now look down. |
| 04:50:16 | | Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:50:24 | midkay | third row, center, actually. |
| 04:50:25 | midkay | Fonts. |
| 04:50:28 | midkay | see it? it's text. |
| 04:50:33 | midkay | there's a link. |
| 04:50:33 | afruff23 | oh |
| 04:50:39 | afruff23 | I thought ti would have its won section |
| 04:50:40 | afruff23 | sorry |
| 04:50:44 | afruff23 | own* |
| 04:50:50 | Falco98 | BTW, i don't have access to my "safely remove hardware" button these days −− how concerned should i be when removing my h140? |
| 04:51:03 | midkay | Davide-NYC, well, it's hard to imagine that everything would merge and compile and nothing would be different. |
| 04:51:15 | midkay | are you sure you're compiling in the right dir, and copying over correctly, etc? |
| 04:51:43 | Davide-NYC | hmm |
| 04:52:11 | Davide-NYC | in a functioning cygwin environment, i DL the source via CVS to dir 'rockbox |
| 04:52:28 | Davide-NYC | I then patch from within rockbox |
| 04:52:43 | Davide-NYC | I then mkdir to "davbox" |
| 04:52:52 | Davide-NYC | I configure and make and make zip from there |
| 04:52:52 | | Join cismo_ [0] (i=cismo@adsl-85-217-32-39.kotinet.com) |
| 04:53:03 | Davide-NYC | as per the instructions |
| 04:53:26 | Davide-NYC | I end up with file detritise in davbox plus my lovely zipfile |
| 04:53:46 | Davide-NYC | which contains rockbox.iriver and .rockbox |
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| 04:54:57 | midkay | make sure there is no rockbox.iriver in x:\.rockbox\ |
| 04:55:28 | Davide-NYC | on the player? |
| 04:55:42 | midkay | yeah. |
| 04:55:47 | Davide-NYC | checking now |
| 04:56:03 | Davide-NYC | noipe |
| 04:56:09 | midkay | good, hm. |
| 04:56:19 | Davide-NYC | the only instance of rockbox.iriver is in the root |
| 04:56:28 | Davide-NYC | I may have also found a bug |
| 04:56:34 | Davide-NYC | in the new AGC patch |
| 04:56:42 | midkay | i'd let him know.. |
| 04:56:43 | Davide-NYC | petur? |
| 04:58:50 | Davide-NYC | midkay, pardon my density, but whom should I inform of this bug? |
| 04:59:04 | midkay | whoever wrote the patch. |
| 04:59:55 | Falco98 | hardeep: so you're saying i shouldn't use the patch quite yet? |
| 04:59:56 | JdGordon | haha hardeep , yes im a dill yet again :D |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:17 | Davide-NYC | all of the authors? Or just the original author? |
| 05:01:31 | Davide-NYC | at least two have had a crack at it |
| 05:01:31 | midkay | all of the authors as in more than one? |
| 05:01:31 | midkay | whoever made the one you got, i suppose. |
| 05:01:50 | Falco98 | haha wb Jd |
| 05:01:51 | Falco98 | Jd can i make a suggestion? |
| 05:02:18 | JdGordon | no! |
| 05:02:22 | JdGordon | enouugh already :D |
| 05:02:22 | Falco98 | aw. |
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| 05:03:00 | JdGordon | whats the suggestino? |
| 05:03:24 | Falco98 | i was just gonna say, simplify your algo. a little.. when u do the coin flip, just set "counter" to -1 or 1, (whether the rand is even or odd). then in your for() loop, instead of doing "i++" do "i + counter" |
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| 05:03:56 | JdGordon | i is not the insert insert.. |
| 05:03:59 | Falco98 | easier for u to trace & debug (& me to understand) and you wont have pieces all over :-P |
| 05:04:10 | JdGordon | i keeps track of how many tracks have been looked at |
| 05:04:32 | Falco98 | hmm i was just saying "i" for example, not looking at the code itself... |
| 05:04:57 | Falco98 | which loop do u use to count down-or-up ? |
| 05:05:16 | Falco98 | (the one with the variable "t"?) |
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| 05:05:22 | | Part Shorty |
| 05:06:21 | JdGordon | r is the track index which gets counted up/down.. i goes from 0..count always |
| 05:06:34 | Falco98 | oh maybe this: simply set "direction" to -1 or 1 depending on the coin flip |
| 05:06:46 | JdGordon | thats what ive done |
| 05:07:10 | Falco98 | ok |
| 05:07:12 | JdGordon | i hadnt had breakfast yet and was still mostly asleep before... patch is fixed and almost uploaded (again :< ) |
| 05:07:20 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 05:07:28 | Falco98 | what was the problem hardeep was talking about before? |
| 05:07:48 | JdGordon | good ol infiinte loop was very possible if.. |
| 05:08:02 | JdGordon | direction was getting set to 0/1 not -1/1 |
| 05:08:13 | JdGordon | so if it was 0 it was an inifnite loop :p |
| 05:08:18 | * | JdGordon embarresed |
| 05:08:43 | Falco98 | gotcha |
| 05:09:02 | JdGordon | ok this 1 should be final... |
| 05:09:05 | JdGordon | hopeuflly.. |
| 05:09:19 | Falco98 | that's why i was saying.. hard-code "direction" as either -1 or 1 instead of using all the divisions and mods and stuff, to avoid ur own confusion ;-) |
| 05:09:53 | JdGordon | nothing wrong with a bit of halthy confusion every so often... |
| 05:09:58 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 05:10:39 | Falco98 | maybe i'll let Hardeep look at this one before compiling :-P |
| 05:10:45 | sharpe | well, i'm in a better mood now |
| 05:10:47 | JdGordon | chicken :D |
| 05:11:29 | midkay | sharpe, cool @ savestate :) |
| 05:11:37 | sharpe | heh... |
| 05:11:40 | JdGordon | grr.. how to i remove all ttraces of sendmail from my comp??? iv done apt-get remove −−purge sendmail twice and it still keeps trying to be run after a reboot |
| 05:11:43 | midkay | (sorry, a bit late) :) |
| 05:11:46 | sharpe | lol |
| 05:11:49 | sharpe | it's okay |
| 05:11:51 | midkay | sounds like it's coming along pretty well. |
| 05:12:11 | sharpe | i just need to figure out what to work on next, not including video modes/disk emulation |
| 05:12:21 | Falco98 | Jd: how do i apply the new patch if i've already applied the old one? |
| 05:12:32 | Falco98 | do i have to overwrite with the original daily code? |
| 05:12:42 | JdGordon | i guess so... |
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| 05:12:50 | Falco98 | oh i guess i could patch -remove |
| 05:12:53 | JdGordon | do cvs up -C to replace with the oriognal copies |
| 05:13:01 | JdGordon | or that... |
| 05:13:33 | midkay | sharpe, well, what're your options? :) |
| 05:13:56 | sharpe | midkay: i'm not sure... can't really think of much else to do |
| 05:14:00 | whatboutbob | falco98: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=38530 |
| 05:14:06 | sharpe | i also got it to report the fps more accurately |
| 05:14:09 | Falco98 | meh i dont have my cygwin set up to use the CVS directly yet |
| 05:14:16 | midkay | sharpe, haha. nice. :D :D :D. |
| 05:14:18 | Falco98 | thx WAB |
| 05:14:50 | Falco98 | ahhh |
| 05:15:01 | Davide-NYC | OK I buzzed both Jvo Studer (vinylivo) and Petur about the bug. |
| 05:15:03 | sharpe | so instead of 11.11/25, it's now 22.22/25 |
| 05:15:09 | Davide-NYC | whey! |
| 05:15:23 | Falco98 | yeah my removable disks have been set to that already.. but i've always wondered since everyone seems to explode when "safely remove hardware" comes up.. |
| 05:15:38 | whatboutbob | davide-nyc: the patch is in flyspray isn't it? |
| 05:15:45 | Davide-NYC | yes |
| 05:15:55 | Davide-NYC | I'm trying to make heads or tails of it now |
| 05:16:20 | Davide-NYC | trying to identify the switch that turns it on or shuts it off depending on the source chosen |
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| 05:16:33 | whatboutbob | davide-nyc: what's the prob? |
| 05:16:43 | Davide-NYC | whataboutbob = great FAQ on taperssection |
| 05:16:51 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 05:17:14 | Davide-NYC | the prob is that AGC is off when line-in selected as source |
| 05:17:16 | whatboutbob | falco98: i've done that...but i still actually 'safely remove the hardware' out of habit... |
| 05:17:45 | Davide-NYC | I think it sould be selectable for mic and line-in |
| 05:17:45 | Falco98 | whatboutbob: yeah.. the problem is, my explorer.exe refuses to run these days, leaving me w/o a taskbar, systray, desktop icons, etc |
| 05:18:07 | Davide-NYC | and always off during source==digital |
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| 05:18:22 | whatboutbob | davide-NYC: thanks. 'tis still a work in progress tho. I just added a few videos of exploding batteries to the battery mod section (after reading about the exploding MT) |
| 05:18:34 | whatboutbob | falco98: that sounds healthy. |
| 05:18:52 | Davide-NYC | WAB, did you get the jist of the AGC bug? |
| 05:19:20 | whatboutbob | davide-nyc: hrmm...if i were you I'd just mention it in the patch on flyspray. |
| 05:19:24 | sharpe | anyone have any ideas for what i should try to implement? |
| 05:19:40 | Davide-NYC | how do you feel about having AGC available during line-in recording? |
| 05:19:41 | whatboutbob | sharpe: you bored? |
| 05:19:47 | Davide-NYC | sharpe! |
| 05:19:49 | sharpe | whatboutbob: aye |
| 05:19:57 | Davide-NYC | fix this, it'll be a piece of cake! |
| 05:20:02 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 05:20:07 | sharpe | er, i meant implement, as in, for the c64 emulator :D |
| 05:20:13 | sharpe | what's wrong? |
| 05:20:22 | whatboutbob | sharpe: *cough* http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5275 |
| 05:20:34 | whatboutbob | completely unbiased suggestion there... |
| 05:20:40 | whatboutbob | bah! |
| 05:20:41 | Davide-NYC | bhehe |
| 05:20:52 | sharpe | i don't even have any other player than an ipod... :) |
| 05:21:14 | whatboutbob | mwaha...that might prove difficult though. |
| 05:21:44 | Davide-NYC | the AGC bug is just a teeny big |
| 05:21:46 | Davide-NYC | *bug |
| 05:21:50 | whatboutbob | c64...man...its so funny that these crazy arse emulators are way back in vogue now. |
| 05:21:59 | sharpe | yep. |
| 05:22:00 | Falco98 | whatboutbob: well, it has been this way for a week or so and it's been usable.. i'm just trying to evacuate enough data to do a reinstall |
| 05:22:01 | sharpe | but |
| 05:22:08 | sharpe | it's the emulator for rockbox! :D |
| 05:22:42 | whatboutbob | davide: yeah, agc for line-in would be handy once I know what and when its doing it (ie there's some kind of log/cue). Have already discussed it with vinylivo, so it may be on the cards. |
| 05:22:44 | Davide-NYC | here's my unbiased suggestion: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4748 |
| 05:23:01 | Davide-NYC | You have? |
| 05:23:07 | Davide-NYC | I just sent him a PM |
| 05:23:22 | Davide-NYC | I feell like I'm missing a piece of logic |
| 05:23:35 | Davide-NYC | why *woudn't* you want AGC for line-in? |
| 05:24:24 | Davide-NYC | or at least the option |
| 05:24:28 | whatboutbob | i mean i just don't currently find AGC useful for my purposes, because its too damn subtle to fix well in post-production. |
| 05:24:44 | whatboutbob | i've got nothing against having it there. :) |
| 05:25:49 | whatboutbob | ...as an option... |
| 05:26:57 | whatboutbob | sharpe: so is the C64 emulator functional then? |
| 05:27:25 | sharpe | whatboutbob: if you mean functional as in, it runs... yep. |
| 05:28:00 | sharpe | however, only standard text mode works right now |
| 05:28:51 | whatboutbob | ahh, ok. |
| 05:28:52 | sharpe | so, you get to play around with the c64's basic |
| 05:29:13 | Davide-NYC | WAB, as a song writer the last thing you want to do when recording a new idea is fiddle with tek. Which is why I find the AGC so invaluable |
| 05:29:32 | Davide-NYC | Just press a button and go. |
| 05:30:01 | Davide-NYC | I even have rec on startup with agc set to voice |
| 05:30:11 | Davide-NYC | (for acoustic stuff) |
| 05:30:26 | Davide-NYC | -one button- |
| 05:30:33 | whatboutbob | davide: i can see how it would be great for that. |
| 05:30:40 | Davide-NYC | well two, I have to hit the little red button |
| 05:30:51 | Davide-NYC | so two buttons, on and rec |
| 05:33:17 | | Part courtc |
| 05:34:11 | sharpe | midkay: the savestate also takes into account if the savedstate was saved as little or bit endian... so incase the saved states are transferred to another player with a different endianness, it will still recognize it correctly... at least, i hope :D |
| 05:34:24 | sharpe | er, big. not bit. |
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| 05:36:38 | Davide-NYC | hey WAB, I gotta go out now, but I wanted to ask one last question about AGC |
| 05:36:56 | Davide-NYC | did Jvo say anything about implementing this? did he say it would be easy? |
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| 05:37:10 | Davide-NYC | Because I could ask a programmer friend to help me out. |
| 05:37:56 | Davide-NYC | Man, I;m an idiot, WAB logged out a few minutes ago |
| 05:38:02 | Davide-NYC | good night people |
| 05:38:06 | sharpe | g'night |
| 05:38:29 | Falco98 | god damn usb 1.1 is slow... |
| 05:38:30 | Davide-NYC | hey sharpe, if you really bored (I mean for real) and you want to help the iriver fols out |
| 05:38:37 | Davide-NYC | *folks |
| 05:38:39 | Falco98 | especially when copying a few gigs of new rips to the h140 :-P |
| 05:38:48 | Davide-NYC | like Falco98! |
| 05:38:55 | Falco98 | haha |
| 05:39:07 | Falco98 | what's the request? |
| 05:39:09 | Davide-NYC | you could take a look at the AGC patch and the Histogram patch |
| 05:39:12 | Falco98 | not that i can do it, just curious |
| 05:39:30 | Davide-NYC | AGC for line-in recording, not just mic-in recording |
| 05:39:40 | Davide-NYC | AGC makes no sense for Digital input |
| 05:39:45 | sharpe | well, i'm not a dev, nor do i know anything about the playback/recording engines. :D |
| 05:39:50 | Davide-NYC | (blass preglow for that) |
| 05:39:59 | Davide-NYC | *bless |
| 05:40:00 | Falco98 | and i don't know too much about recording in general |
| 05:40:01 | sharpe | but, i can take a crack at it without success |
| 05:40:06 | Davide-NYC | haha |
| 05:40:15 | Davide-NYC | if you're so certain don;t waste you rtimw |
| 05:40:25 | Davide-NYC | check em out here |
| 05:40:26 | sharpe | which would mostly consist of staring at it for a few minutes, and asking myself "the hell?" |
| 05:40:35 | Davide-NYC | LOL |
| 05:40:55 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4748 |
| 05:41:01 | Davide-NYC | the patch at the very bottom |
| 05:41:11 | sharpe | heh |
| 05:41:13 | sharpe | okay |
| 05:41:34 | Davide-NYC | look for stuff that refers to SOURCE_MIC |
| 05:41:51 | sharpe | mmhmm... |
| 05:41:53 | Davide-NYC | if general_settings.record_input == SOURCE_MIC |
| 05:42:01 | Davide-NYC | (that was from memory) |
| 05:42:22 | sharpe | and what do you want it to do? |
| 05:42:29 | Davide-NYC | OK, |
| 05:42:33 | sharpe | er, bug fix? |
| 05:42:46 | Davide-NYC | I want the AGC function to be available when line-in is chosen as source |
| 05:43:07 | Davide-NYC | it's maybe a feature |
| 05:43:11 | sharpe | ooh. |
| 05:43:43 | sharpe | i *may* be able to get that to work |
| 05:43:45 | Davide-NYC | I can't understand why it wouldn;t be implemented on line-in, so if it was overlooked then it's a bug-fix. |
| 05:44:06 | Davide-NYC | But if there's a good reason for it to not have been implemented on line-in then it's a feature |
| 05:44:13 | Davide-NYC | ya dig? |
| 05:44:20 | Davide-NYC | I gotta run out |
| 05:44:26 | sharpe | heh |
| 05:44:26 | sharpe | later |
| 05:44:29 | Davide-NYC | But I'll log back in when I get back |
| 05:44:34 | Davide-NYC | dude, thanks! |
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| 05:45:00 | sharpe | hmmm... |
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| 06:00:16 | Falco98 | hmm.. 70 minutes to copy 3.5 gigs of ogg's onto my h140 |
| 06:00:21 | Falco98 | stupid old-USB |
| 06:03:31 | midkay | <sharpe> midkay: the savestate also takes into account if the savedstate was saved as little or bit endian... so incase the saved states are transferred to another player with a different endianness, it will still recognize it correctly... at least, i hope :D |
| 06:03:37 | midkay | sharpe, pretty, uh, cool. |
| 06:03:37 | midkay | :) |
| 06:03:42 | scottder | oggs rule! :) |
| 06:04:20 | Falco98 | yup |
| 06:08:00 | Falco98 | hmm |
| 06:08:12 | Falco98 | i'm copying a big batch of files to my h140, and it seems to have given up mid-copy |
| 06:08:23 | Falco98 | it's been stuck on one song for a few minutes now |
| 06:08:26 | Falco98 | anyone seen this before? |
| 06:08:46 | Falco98 | the HDD access light is gone |
| 06:09:47 | Falco98 | ahh nm |
| 06:10:07 | Falco98 | i had started a copy of something else across the network and i guess it "paused" the iriver transfer for me |
| 06:14:18 | sharpe | heh... |
| 06:14:25 | sharpe | i'm going to play with dll injection |
| 06:14:50 | Rick | why take it into account |
| 06:14:55 | Rick | just make sure it's always in whatever endian |
| 06:14:56 | Rick | :p |
| 06:15:09 | sharpe | eh, because i'm lazy. |
| 06:15:39 | Falco98 | hmm.. night all |
| 06:15:42 | sharpe | it'd take about the same amount of code to save in in a certain endian, as it does to save it in whatever endian and conver it if needed |
| 06:15:45 | sharpe | g'night |
| 06:15:47 | Falco98 | thx to jdgordon and hardeep.. |
| 06:15:59 | Falco98 | and everyone remember to try out the random-albums patch :) |
| 06:16:08 | Falco98 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5338 |
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| 06:16:49 | sharpe | woo! time to go see what programs i can crash. |
| 06:16:55 | sharpe | g'night everyone |
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| 06:36:35 | Davide-NYC | Sharpe I'm back |
| 06:37:11 | Davide-NYC | /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Davide-NYC |
| 06:37:35 | Davide-NYC | WTF |
| 06:38:03 | scorche | nice password >_> |
| 06:38:09 | Davide-NYC | WTF |
| 06:38:25 | Davide-NYC | sloppy cut 'n' paste |
| 06:38:30 | Davide-NYC | LOL |
| 06:38:43 | Davide-NYC | first few days on IRC (ever) |
| 06:38:44 | scorche | that is why i always do it in the console, so even then, it wont get through |
| 06:39:06 | Davide-NYC | scorche, explain |
| 06:39:15 | scorche | well, the server window |
| 06:39:38 | Davide-NYC | you mean over in the irc.frenode.net window? |
| 06:39:44 | Davide-NYC | *freenode |
| 06:39:44 | scorche | yes |
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| 06:40:52 | afruff23 | is there any help page for making a tagnavi.config file? |
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| 06:46:48 | afruff23 | can I make another file but name it blah.tcd and it would work with tagcache? |
| 06:48:17 | Doomed | idk |
| 06:50:05 | afruff23 | what am I supposed to use to edit the tagnavi file? |
| 06:50:16 | scorche | vim! |
| 06:50:20 | afruff23 | it seems to have unsupported characters when I pen it in notepad |
| 06:50:27 | afruff23 | open* |
| 06:50:32 | scorche | =D |
| 06:52:11 | afruff23 | wil vim dispaly the unsupported character? |
| 06:52:22 | afruff23 | or is the character actually a square? |
| 06:52:44 | Doomed | vim? |
| 06:52:53 | afruff23 | it's a program |
| 06:53:48 | afruff23 | the sqaures seem to occur in predictable palces |
| 06:53:54 | afruff23 | places* |
| 06:54:16 | afruff23 | "Artists" artist : album : title"Albums" album : title |
| 06:54:26 | Doomed | in a tagcache.tcd? |
| 06:54:41 | afruff23 | tagnavi.tcd |
| 06:55:05 | afruff23 | after the word title is the square symbol |
| 06:55:25 | afruff23 | it's some sort of spacer icon |
| 06:56:24 | Doomed | yeha ive noticed that in a lot of things |
| 06:56:27 | Doomed | its doubl |
| 06:56:52 | Doomed | A |
| 06:56:52 | afruff23 | doubl? |
| 06:57:03 | Doomed | doubled boxes right |
| 06:57:06 | Doomed | AA |
| 06:57:19 | Doomed | cya |
| 06:58:16 | afruff23 | I would appreciate a tagnavi.tcd tutorial very much |
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| 07:15:59 | aBrick | anyone around to help with a couple of quick questions? |
| 07:17:43 | aBrick | bummer. |
| 07:20:10 | scorche | aBrick: ask your questions and someone will come back, and see them |
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| 07:23:28 | aBrick | fair enough |
| 07:24:25 | sharpe | grar... |
| 07:24:29 | sharpe | can't sleep... |
| 07:24:48 | aBrick | regarding tagcache usage, after following the setup steps on the wiki, and forcing a tagcache update, I rebooted by player (ipod 5g) and was presented with an error message about loading a codec, didn't get the exact message, but I'm going to try again to get it. Also, nothing is available after the reboot and tagcache commit. |
| 07:25:31 | sharpe | aBrick: yeah, it seems after a tagcache update; there's always a codec error (for 5g anyway), rebooting will fix it. |
| 07:25:31 | aBrick | btw, the message about the codec appeared when trying to restart the last playing song (resume feature is on) |
| 07:25:49 | aBrick | so, basically reboot twice? |
| 07:25:54 | sharpe | pretty much |
| 07:26:00 | aBrick | i'll give it a shot, thx |
| 07:26:03 | sharpe | welcom |
| 07:26:04 | sharpe | e. |
| 07:27:20 | aBrick | also, does there happen to be a computer based application to update the tagcache info? |
| 07:27:27 | aBrick | to speed the process... |
| 07:27:34 | sharpe | nay |
| 07:28:06 | sharpe | there was someone who had asked about that before, but i'm not aware of if he's done anything with it |
| 07:28:10 | aBrick | thought i'd ask. would be pretty handy, maybe i'll think about getting involved this summer when school doesn't own my life. |
| 07:28:29 | sharpe | heh |
| 07:29:54 | sharpe | if you do, do something with the idea of an offline tag cache updater, you can find the tagcache functions in /apps/tagcache.c and .h, in the rockbox source... |
| 07:30:13 | sharpe | for building the database and such |
| 07:31:41 | aBrick | thanks, i'll try to remember that while losing my mind for the next few weeks. |
| 07:31:42 | aBrick | =) |
| 07:31:49 | sharpe | heh, anytime |
| 07:32:22 | sharpe | i think i'm going to head to sleep now... |
| 07:32:33 | aBrick | nice |
| 07:32:42 | aBrick | i'm going to continue working on my paper |
| 07:32:48 | aBrick | boo for papers. |
| 07:32:52 | scorche | sharpe: need me to come tuck you in? |
| 07:32:55 | sharpe | oh, reminds me. i've got to rewrite that paper. |
| 07:33:00 | sharpe | er, parts of it. |
| 07:33:12 | sharpe | scorche: no thanks |
| 07:33:20 | scorche | sharpe: =[ |
| 07:33:23 | sharpe | sorry |
| 07:33:36 | sharpe | heh. anyway, g'night everyone. |
| 07:34:07 | sharpe | i doubt i'm going to get anything done with the c64 emulator tomorrow... |
| 07:34:37 | sharpe | okay... vision is... tilting... 'night. |
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| 07:37:32 | aBrick | ideas on no menu displayed after enabling tagcache and setting display options to ID3 Database? |
| 07:43:16 | midkay | did you update it? |
| 07:43:21 | midkay | you need to reboot, probably. |
| 07:45:54 | JdGordon | wernt u going to bed like 2 hours ago sharpe ? |
| 07:48:28 | aBrick | yeah, i forced an update, rebooted, i see the tagcache comitting X/10 messages, then the Artist/Album/Etc. options are not displayed |
| 07:49:05 | midkay | check to be sure you have a tagnavi.config file in /.rockbox .. |
| 07:49:09 | midkay | maybe you deleted it. |
| 07:49:19 | aBrick | i must've |
| 07:49:21 | aBrick | it's not there. |
| 07:49:30 | aBrick | do i need to recreate that somehow? |
| 07:49:42 | midkay | yes, put it back from a cvs build. |
| 07:50:08 | JdGordon | http://cellar.org/iotd.php?threadid=10491 hahahaha |
| 07:52:09 | aBrick | beautiful, thanks for that. |
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| 08:10:29 | dongs | hah |
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| 08:27:27 | amiconn | battery_bench.rock has a bug in its spinup detection / handling ... |
| 08:28:19 | dongs | is ipod firmware loaded at a fixed address in memory? |
| 08:28:23 | dongs | (the apple one) |
| 08:28:34 | dongs | and if it is what is it |
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| 09:08:23 | Davide-NYC | any devs or helpful souls around to answer a quick question |
| 09:10:13 | JdGordon | dont ask to ask.. just ask... |
| 09:10:41 | Davide-NYC | what do I do when I have the following message during a make zip ::−−> Skip redeye.rwps due to size restraints |
| 09:11:18 | Davide-NYC | what exactly does it mean? I'm using cygwin to build on win32 |
| 09:12:12 | amiconn | You don't need to do anything about it |
| 09:12:38 | amiconn | It just means that the wps packaging left out a wps for your target, as it doesn't fit the lcd |
| 09:12:39 | dongs | amiconn: do you know where apple firmware is loaded in memory? |
| 09:12:43 | amiconn | (too big or too small) |
| 09:12:50 | amiconn | dongs: nope |
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| 09:22:58 | Davide-NYC | Does anyone know where I can find the default WPS code for iriver targets? |
| 09:23:16 | Davide-NYC | (probably the same as the gray 4g ipod WPS code |
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| 09:34:11 | RedBreva | Davide-NYC: isn't the default WPS platform agnostic? (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsArchos) |
| 09:35:46 | midkay | it is. |
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| 09:37:38 | amiconn | almost. |
| 09:38:05 | amiconn | All bitmap targets have the same default wps. Player is different |
| 09:38:06 | Davide-NYC | I see now, the peakmeter doesn't fit on some targets and is thus not displayed, but the code si the same? |
| 09:38:40 | amiconn | Peakmeter should fit on all targets with the default font |
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| 09:39:03 | midkay | amiconn, not recorders with the status bar on.. |
| 09:39:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | The rockbox_default wps code should probably be on the front CustomWPS page, since the code itself isn't shown in the .wps file |
| 09:40:49 | Davide-NYC | That's were I found it |
| 09:40:54 | Davide-NYC | *after* asking the question |
| 09:41:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though it is shown in the CustomWPS page. |
| 09:41:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | The code is. |
| 09:41:23 | amiconn | midkay: Ah, yes, one line too much... |
| 09:41:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | In my first statement I meant "WpsGallery" rather than CustomWPS |
| 09:41:38 | midkay | right. |
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| 09:52:52 | Davide-NYC | urgh, trying to compile the simulator, having trouble. |
| 09:53:18 | Davide-NYC | LD rockboxui.exe |
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| 09:56:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | What error are you getting? |
| 09:59:16 | Davide-NYC | urghh, too tired, closed the cywin window by accident.. |
| 09:59:29 | Davide-NYC | I'll try it again tomorrow |
| 09:59:33 | Davide-NYC | g'nite |
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| 10:14:24 | {edf}ss | Anyone around? |
| 10:18:33 | amiconn | . /msg logbot seen Anyone |
| 10:18:37 | amiconn | ;-) |
| 10:19:16 | {edf}ss | amiconn I'm just getting started, and one of the first directions is to download the firmware; all Apple has for download is their updater, so what's needed to be done? |
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| 10:20:56 | * | amiconn guesses {edf}ss has an ipod |
| 10:21:02 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 10:21:08 | {edf}ss | thank you. |
| 10:21:14 | {edf}ss | 2gb nano |
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| 10:24:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Our instructions tell you exactly which files to download, none of them are from apple... |
| 10:25:16 | {edf}ss | the instructions at that link are great, the pdf is not |
| 10:25:25 | {edf}ss | well, not for ipods, anyway |
| 10:26:21 | * | amiconn summons LinusN |
| 10:26:48 | amiconn | I need some info on target tree... |
| 10:27:40 | amiconn | A wiki page about it is still missing... |
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| 10:31:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Where are there PDF instructions, or are you just talking about the manual? |
| 10:32:02 | {edf}ss | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano-20060514.pdf |
| 10:32:07 | {edf}ss | yes the manual |
| 10:32:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | The manual |
| 10:32:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, it's a draft. |
| 10:33:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's not a final install process (you may notice it's not as simple as it could be) and once there is it'll probably go in the manual. |
| 10:34:20 | {edf}ss | no prob at all, I just couldn't figure out what to do based on the manual, heh |
| 10:34:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | With the iPod, theoretically we can eventually have a one-click install, and there's a few installers people in the forums have made that are approaching that point. |
| 10:35:34 | amiconn | Be careful about one-click install. It may be patented ;) |
| 10:36:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 10:36:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well we can pick an arbitrary number of clicks to demand from the user to avoid patents. |
| 10:38:20 | {edf}ss | all the low ones have been patented, you could make a 312-click install :/ |
| 10:38:44 | * | amiconn got 21 hours of playback out of his new battery set |
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| 10:41:36 | linuxstb | dongs: The Apple firmware is loaded to the start of RAM (0x10000000 on the PP502x ipods), but I think the Apple firmware then remaps RAM to start at 0x00000000 - which Rockbox does as well. |
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| 10:46:27 | JdGordon | not bad amiconn, what was it before the new batts? |
| 10:47:06 | amiconn | Didn't do an exact measurement, but I has the impression it was way less. |
| 10:47:37 | amiconn | That's what I want to find out with the tests I'm currently running - it seems our recorder v1 charging algo is still crap |
| 10:48:17 | scorche | amiconn: what batteries?.....and crap in what way? |
| 10:48:18 | amiconn | The batteries were charge in an external charger for my first run (the one getting 21 hours) |
| 10:48:48 | amiconn | scorche: It seems to shut off too early, for various reasons |
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| 10:49:07 | amiconn | My old batteries were 2500mAh, new ones are 2700mAh |
| 10:49:15 | scorche | brand? |
| 10:49:31 | amiconn | Resoldered & cleaned battery contacts as well when changing them |
| 10:49:33 | amiconn | Sanyo |
| 10:49:54 | scorche | last time i tried batteries >2300, they didnt work =S |
| 10:50:32 | scorche | and my player emitted a beeping that seemed to come out of the mic... |
| 10:50:47 | amiconn | strange... |
| 10:51:07 | scorche | and the batteries were good...i am using them in my mouse atm |
| 10:51:23 | amiconn | That doesn't necessarily mean they are good enough |
| 10:51:47 | scorche | and does the charging shut off completely too soon, or go into trickle too soon? |
| 10:52:09 | amiconn | It depends on the inner resistance - since the hard disk draws a lot of currrent when spinning up, it is important that the inner resistance is low |
| 10:52:38 | amiconn | A mouse needs less current, so batteries with a higher inner resistance will work fine |
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| 10:53:17 | amiconn | Well, the current algorithm always trickles |
| 10:53:50 | amiconn | I had a similar effect as you only once - when I tried an old set of 1200mAh cells, the unit didn't start |
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| 10:54:12 | scorche | any beeping? |
| 10:54:29 | scorche | or ever heard any other occurances of beeping? |
| 10:55:11 | amiconn | No. It just didn't work, although the batteries were fully charged |
| 10:56:11 | amiconn | My player hd sometimes made funny noises when the (old) batteries were almost empty |
| 10:57:25 | scorche | "funny noises"? |
| 10:57:55 | amiconn | Trying to spin up ..."squeak" |
| 10:58:20 | amiconn | repeatedly.. |
| 10:58:26 | scorche | hmmm....this was most definitely a beep....and the mic is the only thing that i can imagine producing it |
| 10:59:14 | amiconn | There is no mic in the player... and a mic can't produce noises, at least not the type of mic used in the recorder |
| 10:59:51 | {edf}ss | HAHAHA DOOM ON MY IPOS |
| 10:59:57 | {edf}ss | sorry I'm just highly amused |
| 10:59:59 | scorche | there is nothing else that would be capable of it though... |
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| 11:00:06 | scorche | unless you can think of something |
| 11:00:08 | {edf}ss | thanks guys, later |
| 11:01:05 | scorche | and i have never known of a HD producing a distinctive "beep" in regular intervals or any other intervals for that matter |
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| 11:04:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've heard an HD make very very very beep-like sounds. |
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| 11:08:34 | Trkstr | rawr! |
| 11:08:52 | Trkstr | ok quickly someone start talking me out of uninstalling rockbox |
| 11:09:07 | znot | ok, shut up |
| 11:09:14 | Trkstr | not helping |
| 11:09:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Trkstr: If you don't like it, feel free. But I'm curious why |
| 11:09:31 | Trkstr | basically i have lots of accessories |
| 11:09:41 | Trkstr | fm receivers |
| 11:09:50 | znot | dual b00t for a dual n00b |
| 11:09:57 | Trkstr | i do dual boot |
| 11:10:26 | Trkstr | but for some reason, with the external battery installed, it won't let me boot into normal bio (i know i know normal bios... bleh) |
| 11:10:35 | markun | Trkstr: you could uninstall it an come back in 6 months time to see if we have support for accessories |
| 11:10:43 | Trkstr | i could |
| 11:10:45 | znot | real problem is you cant use itunes db and no-db simultaniously |
| 11:10:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Trkstr: Disregard znot. Don't let him get on your nerves. |
| 11:10:56 | Trkstr | /ignored |
| 11:10:57 | Trkstr | :) |
| 11:11:10 | znot | that, and the whole rockbox id3 tag browser is broken still |
| 11:11:15 | Trkstr | i don't want to uninstall as i like bejeweled on the run :P |
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| 11:11:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Trkstr: Can't you unplug the external battery, boot Retail, THEN plug it in? |
| 11:12:09 | Trkstr | true i could |
| 11:12:26 | Trkstr | but most of the time, the external battery is for when i run near dry on my iopod ;P |
| 11:12:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, plugging it in for a few seconds should charge the iPod for long enough to boot Retail without it. |
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| 11:20:42 | {edf}ss | Who is developing the DooM plugin for rockbox? |
| 11:21:17 | midkay | he's not in here at the moment. |
| 11:21:26 | {edf}ss | it's a 1-man project? |
| 11:21:36 | scorche | leave a message after the beep.. |
| 11:21:42 | midkay | well, everybody's open to work on it.. |
| 11:21:52 | midkay | the main dev behind it is not around. |
| 11:22:07 | midkay | why would you ask who if you know it's a number of people? |
| 11:23:37 | {edf}ss | I don't know. Is the guy Paul Louden, or is that someone else? |
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| 11:24:49 | midkay | that's Paul_The_Nerd, and i don't believe he's contributed a line of code to the rockbox doom plugin. :) (no offense paul, and correct me if i'm wrong please) |
| 11:25:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: I contributed to the original version, and then he went and switched source-ports. I still didn't contribute too much though, just some simple bits here and there, housekeeping really] |
| 11:25:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | The guy you're looking for is Karl Kurbjun |
| 11:25:55 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, ah :) |
| 11:25:59 | {edf}ss | Well, I just wanted to thank all of you in general for RockBox, and especially the DooM guys, because that's just freakin' awesome :) |
| 11:26:12 | {edf}ss | Also, encourage you to get the music working :) |
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| 11:26:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 11:26:41 | Paul_The_Jock | =] |
| 11:26:57 | * | Paul_The_Jock beats Paul_The_Nerd up |
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| 11:27:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, in highschool twice I was "PE student of the year" for all the horror that goes with it. |
| 11:27:12 | midkay | haha. :E |
| 11:27:16 | znot | no one cares |
| 11:27:26 | midkay | ffs.. |
| 11:28:01 | scorche | =D |
| 11:28:08 | scorche | yes, i am that bored |
| 11:28:13 | {edf}ss | So what's the quickest/simplest way to make RockBox randomly play a song from the entire musical contents of your device? |
| 11:28:17 | znot | is it possible to change that ugly ass startup logo image in rockbox? |
| 11:29:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Using TagCache or Filetree? |
| 11:29:14 | {edf}ss | it looks like if you have shuffle on and you simply go into "music" it works perfectly :) |
| 11:29:14 | scorche | znot: yes. |
| 11:29:23 | znot | hows that scorche? |
| 11:29:33 | {edf}ss | Paul_The_Nerd whatever the default is, but it seems to be working fine this way, thanks |
| 11:29:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | znot: It's a .bmp. Replace it with another one. Very simple. |
| 11:29:40 | znot | cant find it, where? |
| 11:29:52 | {edf}ss | in .rockbox I'd guess |
| 11:29:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | znot: Well, it's compiled in, so you'd have to be looking at the source. |
| 11:29:59 | * | scorche wonders is znot actually did any searching |
| 11:30:02 | znot | thats what I thought |
| 11:30:03 | scorche | if rather |
| 11:30:23 | znot | see scorche? best not to make assumptions |
| 11:30:30 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 11:30:53 | scorche | see what? |
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| 11:31:38 | * | midkay wonders if scorche or Paul_The_Nerd was here at all during the past two days when this same guy was flooding and spamming and trolling. |
| 11:31:56 | znot | rofl obsessive |
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| 11:32:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: In fact I was. At one point he was pleading not to be kicked again. It was rather funny in that "pathetic crybaby" sort of way. |
| 11:32:08 | scorche | not really....but i was here for dongs |
| 11:32:18 | * | scorche searches the logs in search of entertainment |
| 11:32:26 | znot | Paul_The_Nerd is one of those few left who still doesn't realize that I wasnt actually being /remove d |
| 11:32:31 | znot | oh well, n00bs will be n00bs |
| 11:32:45 | scorche | s70p! |
| 11:32:50 | scorche | z0mg! |
| 11:32:50 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha, and did you see his ocremix profile? |
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| 11:33:02 | midkay | what a depressed little boy... |
| 11:33:13 | znot | yea, thats why I have 20 songs on the site |
| 11:33:16 | znot | cause I'm depressed |
| 11:33:26 | * | scorche hands znot a razor |
| 11:33:28 | znot | nothing gets by you, fgt |
| 11:33:43 | midkay | by god, i'm an 'fgt'. |
| 11:33:54 | znot | at least you aren't in denial |
| 11:34:00 | scorche | remember kids! Rippy the razor reminds you to always walk down the road, not across the street....dont waste it! |
| 11:34:02 | znot | cant say the same for paul_the_fag overhere |
| 11:34:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | znot: No, I know you were being /removed, but for practical purposes, anything that removes you from the channel is essentially a kick. |
| 11:34:32 | znot | HAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHA |
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| 11:34:54 | znot | oh please dont stop! |
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| 11:34:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 11:34:58 | znot | oh no more |
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| 11:35:04 | znot | rofl what n00bidity |
| 11:35:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, that's it 'eh? |
| 11:35:12 | znot | man, I haven't seen such a batch of n00bs in here since the ocremix days |
| 11:35:18 | znot | yea, thats it |
| 11:35:19 | midkay | znot, are you crying in your ocremix profile picture? *wondering* |
| 11:35:29 | znot | don't think so |
| 11:35:32 | znot | I think I"m sneering |
| 11:35:50 | midkay | looks like a young man who didn't get what he wanted for x-mas... |
| 11:35:58 | znot | I never had an x-mas |
| 11:36:07 | scorche | midkay: why am i not finding "znot" in the logs? |
| 11:36:16 | scorche | i dont wanna dig into my personal ones >_> |
| 11:36:17 | midkay | scorche, because he oh-so-cleverly uses different nicks. |
| 11:36:22 | znot | while you're obsessing over me, check out one of my later songs |
| 11:36:22 | znot | http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01202/ |
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| 11:36:33 | scorche | midkay: such as? |
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| 11:36:53 | midkay | scorche, hm, sec. |
| 11:36:53 | * | scorche hugs Bagder |
| 11:36:56 | {edf}ss | I'm browsing through these included plugins, and I'm not sure how to exit from them (ipod nano), can someone fill me in? |
| 11:37:06 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:37:10 | Hansmaulwurf | press "stop" |
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| 11:37:22 | midkay | 'quan' at one point |
| 11:37:31 | {edf}ss | odd, I must have tried that, but pause/play exited lol |
| 11:37:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kibble or something like that before? |
| 11:37:41 | midkay | yeah, kibble was one.. |
| 11:37:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Menu or Menu+Select usually |
| 11:38:07 | midkay | kinnee also.. |
| 11:38:14 | midkay | haha. |
| 11:38:16 | midkay | 02.13.32 # <kinnee> rockbox: You get what you paid for |
| 11:38:30 | midkay | that makes me laugh for several reasons, none of which i know.. |
| 11:38:50 | dongs | linuxstb: i see. do you know where "start" of firmware is in the retailos.bin as extracted by ipod_fw -e 0? |
| 11:39:11 | scorche | linux: you get what you pay for |
| 11:40:09 | {edf}ss | Paul_The_Nerd thank you again :) |
| 11:40:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: No problem. |
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| 11:42:37 | {edf}ss | what does DataBox do, display a txt file? |
| 11:43:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: I believe DataBox doesn't work right now, but I could be wrong. Each plugin name can be found in the wiki at the PluginWhatever page, for example http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDatabox |
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| 11:46:26 | {edf}ss | heh, only 2gb in my case, no need for that :) |
| 11:47:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I understand it well enough, once it's working again, it's basically somewhat similar to what iTunes calls "Smart Playlists" |
| 11:47:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Of course, ideally everything Databox does right now should be able to be merged into the tagnavi.config functionality. |
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| 11:49:22 | {edf}ss | it's perfect as-is for me. I'm surprised that Apple and these other companies use them for so little when it's apparently capable of so much |
| 11:51:28 | Cassandra | {edf}ss, it's a support issue. The more things it can do, the more expensive it is to support. |
| 11:52:01 | Cassandra | To be generous to Apple, one might also say that it's a philosophical issue. They're great believers in KISS. |
| 11:52:34 | {edf}ss | for a min I thought you were talking about the band :) |
| 11:53:09 | Cassandra | That too, possibly. |
| 11:53:28 | Cassandra | I now have a mental image of Steve Jobs in whiteface. That's so wrong. |
| 11:53:40 | midkay | jesus. *shudders* |
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| 11:53:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 11:54:45 | {edf}ss | wow, now I can bring ebooks on my ipod too :) |
| 11:55:10 | {edf}ss | guess I could have done that with the default firmware via "notes" but I never bothered |
| 11:56:20 | {edf}ss | how do you stop, rather than pause? |
| 11:57:11 | {edf}ss | ah, hold it down |
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| 12:00:18 | linuxstb | dongs: In my 4g Color apple_os.bin, the firmware itself starts at 0x200. You can see the eight ARM exception vectors, which are mapped to the start of DRAM at 0x00000000. |
| 12:01:47 | Trkstr | OMG rockbox works with my external battery! |
| 12:01:48 | Trkstr | woot! |
| 12:01:53 | Trkstr | i love rockbox again! |
| 12:01:54 | Trkstr | :) |
| 12:02:04 | Trkstr | the relationship wasn't lost :P |
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| 12:06:32 | Trkstr | come on someone else share my happiness |
| 12:06:43 | JdGordon | WOOO-FUCKING-HOOO! |
| 12:06:48 | JdGordon | :D |
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| 12:07:05 | Trkstr | hoot |
| 12:07:42 | Cassandra | Can someone remind me how to delete with the iPod virtual keyboard? |
| 12:08:09 | dwihno | Trkstr: what kind of external battery? |
| 12:08:19 | dwihno | Trkstr: The Belkin 4xAA pack? |
| 12:08:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Move the cursor into the filename, and press Select |
| 12:09:19 | JdGordon | Cassandra: speaking of which.. maybe it might be a nice idea to add a backspace sort of icon to the virtual keyboard? so u dont have to remember which key it is... also a \n key.. |
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| 12:10:18 | Cassandra | Doesn't sound bad. |
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| 12:10:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I agree |
| 12:10:37 | Cassandra | I really hate the iPod vk implementation. It's so darn unintuitive. |
| 12:10:49 | JdGordon | bit of a pain to implement tho.. |
| 12:11:09 | midkay | a \n key? how can you have \n e.g. in a filename? |
| 12:11:56 | JdGordon | filename isnt the only place u can use the vkeyboard.. but ye |
| 12:12:26 | midkay | the only place i'd consider \n useful would be like the editor.. |
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| 12:13:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: Well, ideally we want to have one Vkeyboard implementation across everything, so for the current one to be usable it needs some sort of \n |
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| 12:18:49 | Trkstr | dwihno: no a belkin one the belkin tunepower |
| 12:18:54 | Trkstr | very thin and sexy |
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| 12:19:47 | Trkstr | speaking of thin and sexy, i'm free tonight, so if any of you hot yound ladies out ther are keen for a good night out, im your man :) |
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| 12:20:06 | Trkstr | but when it comes to spelling correctly, im prolly not... |
| 12:20:07 | {edf}ss | TMI |
| 12:20:25 | JdGordon | hahaha |
| 12:22:09 | {edf}ss | When browsing the drive contents, is there any way to list all files in a given directory, similar to the default iPod's "all" selection when browsing all music/albums from a given artist? |
| 12:22:20 | markun | Bagder: compliments from my girlfriend, she thinks the t-shirt I'm wearing looks really nice :) |
| 12:24:38 | dwihno | Trkstr: Ah. If I were to purchase a power pack, I'd get one with 4xAA :) |
| 12:24:46 | dwihno | (for the usual reasons) |
| 12:25:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | markun: I think the site should have a gallery of everyone with a shirt, like http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/team.jpg |
| 12:25:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: What isn't it showing? |
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| 12:27:10 | {edf}ss | it shows everything, but I mean to show every file, including the ones in child directories |
| 12:27:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Oh, you want it to show all the files in subdirectories of the current directory. I'd suggest TagCache then, which will give you basically the Album/Artist/Genre interface similar to iPod. The directory tree shows you an honest directory tree. |
| 12:28:07 | petur | I had the shirt on last week, and had a funny thing happening while riding my bike |
| 12:28:52 | petur | I wear a bright oragne vest above it, and together with the light blue color, several people thought I was a policeman |
| 12:29:04 | {edf}ss | what/where is TagCache? It's not in the plugin list |
| 12:29:09 | petur | never have seen so many cars stop to let me pass :) |
| 12:29:17 | preglow | hahaha |
| 12:29:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: It's not a plugin. ;-) http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache |
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| 12:30:43 | {edf}ss | thanks again Paul_The_Nerd, I'll learn to use that in time. For now though - something pretty simple - how do you turn the device completely off? |
| 12:30:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hold Play/Pause longer |
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| 12:32:32 | {edf}ss | well that was indeed simple, and dumb of me not to figure it out |
| 12:33:03 | {edf}ss | Thanks for the assistance everyone, I think I'll idle in here for now, but I must go as it's 06:30 here :) |
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| 12:35:40 | dj-fu | does the currently daily nano build boot? |
| 12:35:57 | dj-fu | having a few issues with playback and tagcache doesn't work at all |
| 12:36:04 | dj-fu | some disk access problem, but yeah |
| 12:36:06 | dj-fu | anyone know? |
| 12:36:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll check a CVS build in just a sec |
| 12:36:55 | {edf}ss | dj-fu unless it was very recently compiled, I have the latest and it's fine |
| 12:37:26 | dj-fu | Paul_The_Nerd, thanks ;) |
| 12:37:37 | dj-fu | migh taswell to it myself, just being lazy |
| 12:37:40 | * | dj-fu goes off to find usb cable |
| 12:37:41 | Trkstr | moo |
| 12:37:42 | Trkstr | :) |
| 12:39:04 | dj-fu | nasty, 0.4kB from the rockbox site |
| 12:39:11 | {edf}ss | does rockbox support .mid? |
| 12:39:28 | Mikachu | there is an experimental plugin |
| 12:39:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Viewer. ;-) |
| 12:39:48 | dj-fu | it's a DAP! mid is disgusting |
| 12:39:55 | {edf}ss | DAP? |
| 12:40:02 | dj-fu | digital audio player |
| 12:40:06 | dj-fu | not analogue from the 80's player! |
| 12:40:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: It boots fine for me. |
| 12:40:26 | ashridah | {edf}ss: .midi has had some recent patches merged in. it may or may not be working |
| 12:40:35 | dj-fu | Paul_The_Nerd, thanks, getting it now |
| 12:40:52 | dj-fu | contention ratio on my DSLAM is shocking, I pay for 3.5mbit but get 20kB/ |
| 12:41:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: Y'know, you could've just gotten it and found out for yourself. Note: I used a bleeding edge, not a daily. I'm not sure why you asked about an out of date build, anyway. :-P |
| 12:41:08 | ashridah | dj-fu: midi is still very relevant, with appropriate soundfonts and equipment. |
| 12:41:57 | dj-fu | Paul_The_Nerd, <dj-fu> migh taswell to it myself, just being lazy |
| 12:42:00 | dj-fu | <3 |
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| 12:42:18 | dj-fu | You're such a nice beligerrent channel support guy. |
| 12:42:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: MIDI has some playback qualms right now, but it *tries* to work. |
| 12:42:26 | Mikachu | dj-fu: rockbox.org is on a 2mbit line |
| 12:42:32 | dj-fu | lol 2mbit? gangsta |
| 12:42:45 | Cassandra | Shared with an entire office, I believe. |
| 12:42:48 | dj-fu | why not get hooked up to sourceforge? |
| 12:42:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sourceforge makes kittens cry. |
| 12:43:01 | {edf}ss | it reports "no midi patchset found", anyone have a quick link? |
| 12:43:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: stevenm/patchset.tbz2">http://wam.umd.edu/~stevenm/patchset.tbz2 |
| 12:43:25 | dj-fu | lol |
| 12:43:36 | Cassandra | Well, if anyone was sensible, they'd have documenteted where to look on the wiki. |
| 12:43:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | The playback speed is entirely screwed up right now, in very much the same way sound effects were(are?) wrong in Doom. |
| 12:43:59 | Cassandra | This is where most people look for their Rockbox related stuff. |
| 12:44:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: It's linked in the SoundCodecs page under Midi. |
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| 12:45:16 | Hansmaulwurf | hm i think 3.0 is postponed to 29.06 right? |
| 12:45:20 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: i halved it and most midis play at the right speed, but some are still way off so there's probably something deeper |
| 12:45:28 | Cassandra | That would seem to be a logical place to look |
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| 12:46:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Yeah, it's not terribly clear which file to download though. Midi only started producing Audio output again a very recently, and it's not realtime yet in most cases (or even a codec, it's just a viewer), but I'll go ahead and make it clearer which link is the appropriate one. |
| 12:47:06 | linuxstb | The ipod audio driver only supports 44.1KHz at the moment - I'm sure that's the issue. The irivers support 11.025KHz, 22.050KHz and 44.1KHz. |
| 12:47:35 | Cassandra | I do wish the Rockbox lists would stop unsubscribing me. It's most peeving. |
| 12:47:40 | {edf}ss | heh, I put the patchset in and upon playback it gets Undefined instruction at #)$&#& and is frozen. Do you want that address? |
| 12:48:13 | {edf}ss | 4000C048 |
| 12:48:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: That would do it. :) |
| 12:48:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Which kind of iPod? |
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| 12:49:07 | {edf}ss | 2gb nano (white :P) |
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| 12:49:30 | Mikachu | it worked for me last time i tried it but it was a couple of weeks now |
| 12:49:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: How new is your build, and have you played any files prior to playing the midi? |
| 12:49:45 | dj-fu | hey Paul, what WPS do you use? |
| 12:49:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: I just listened to a MIDI with a clean CVS build from 5 minutes ago. ;-) |
| 12:49:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: Mine. |
| 12:49:58 | {edf}ss | downloaded it less than 6h ago, and I've played several files, not other midis though |
| 12:50:02 | dj-fu | hax |
| 12:50:12 | dj-fu | is it available to me anywhere? :] |
| 12:50:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: Rockbox-default, no peakmeter, simple backdrop. It's nothing special. |
| 12:50:25 | dj-fu | ah |
| 12:50:29 | dj-fu | sweet |
| 12:50:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm a simple guy. |
| 12:50:36 | dj-fu | yep |
| 12:50:42 | dj-fu | zezayer is what i'm usin right now |
| 12:50:52 | dj-fu | do you use tagcache? |
| 12:50:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Odd, no recent changes in midi code. But then, I'm not having any problems playing a midi. |
| 12:51:04 | Mikachu | i should make a better one some day, i made this one in 5 minutes for fun, http://mikachu.ath.cx/slask/mikachu-wps.png |
| 12:51:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Other than the "it sounds like crap" issue, but 'eh. |
| 12:51:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: Nah. Every now and then I generate the TagCache to test when people encounter problems, then I destroy it 'cuz I don't need it. |
| 12:52:22 | dj-fu | hrm |
| 12:53:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm a fan of playlists. I just have a /playlists/ folder set up for what I need, and I browse for individual albums |
| 12:53:21 | dj-fu | yeah, same |
| 12:53:30 | dj-fu | just wanted to test it out but I can never get it working |
| 12:53:31 | steveb | i cant find my remote or headphones :( |
| 12:53:42 | Mikachu | steveb: did you look behind the sofa? |
| 12:53:43 | steveb | my iriver has been used as a removable HD for the last week |
| 12:53:50 | steveb | Mikachu: if i had a sofa, i would look there |
| 12:54:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've just ordered my third h100 remote. I have bad bad luck with those things. |
| 12:54:16 | steveb | how much are they? i quite fancy one |
| 12:54:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | $35 if I recall |
| 12:54:28 | steveb | the H300 remotes are a rip off |
| 12:54:28 | ashridah | rofl. it took me over a year to get around to throwing out the box from my iriver :) |
| 12:56:49 | {edf}ss | Paul_The_Nerd: for midi playback, do I need to put this synth sample mp3 on the device somewhere? |
| 12:57:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: You should just need to put the extract patchset files in the /.rockbox/patchset folder, and that's it. Then click on a midi. |
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| 12:58:34 | {edf}ss | ah, I didn't know .tbz2 is an archive, I just threw it in the .rockbox dir :) |
| 12:58:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, when you fully extract it you should have a lot of .pat files |
| 12:59:54 | {edf}ss | note to self - in future extract on hard drive then copy to flash :) |
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| 13:00:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: I *strongly* recommend manually booting to Retail, THEN plugging in, rather than letting Rockbox boot you into Disk Mode. Retail is faster on Nano. |
| 13:00:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | For *most* people at least, in deference to Galois' magic nano. |
| 13:01:03 | dj-fu | faster for disk transfers? |
| 13:01:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Much |
| 13:01:15 | dj-fu | that's interesting |
| 13:01:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Perhaps an order of magnitude or more. |
| 13:01:33 | {edf}ss | I'll keep that in mind, thanks. |
| 13:02:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, definitely more than an order of magnitude. Perhaps almost two. |
| 13:03:38 | Kohlrabi | so you just need the latest CVS, a patchset and midifiles to get midi to work? |
| 13:04:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Should be, yes. |
| 13:04:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | As I said though, it's not "usable" yet. Lots of buffer misses, and various other problems |
| 13:04:50 | dj-fu | ooh, comitting tagcache, something differnet |
| 13:04:53 | Kohlrabi | ok, Monkey Island here I come :D |
| 13:04:56 | dj-fu | so what is tagcache? an id3 browser? |
| 13:05:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 13:05:08 | dj-fu | ho ho, it's working |
| 13:05:18 | {edf}ss | :O you can run SCUMM on this? |
| 13:05:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kohlrabi: Exactly. In fact, the sample .mp3 showing how the patches sound is from MI. |
| 13:05:28 | Kohlrabi | :D |
| 13:05:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | {edf}ss: Just MI music. Scumm has been suggested, but it's a big project, and nobody from outside has stepped up to base. |
| 13:05:51 | dj-fu | err, that's nto good |
| 13:06:06 | dj-fu | Paul_The_Nerd, with cvs, do you get playback? i just tried playing something from the tagcache browser and it said codec failure |
| 13:06:11 | dj-fu | (they are just mp3 vbr) |
| 13:06:25 | Mikachu | did you update .rockbox or just rockbox.ipod? |
| 13:06:33 | dj-fu | both, and cleared my settings |
| 13:06:35 | {edf}ss | There is a MUCH larger volume-range available on rockbox than normal iPod. I like it! |
| 13:06:37 | dj-fu | I mkfs.vfatted it. |
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| 13:07:12 | dj-fu | strange, working after a reboot |
| 13:07:20 | {edf}ss | well I still got the freezing on midis heh, not that important |
| 13:08:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: Yeah, that's a recent bug relating to TagCache I've seen people report. On the boot when it commits, it gets codec failures. |
| 13:08:30 | dj-fu | ic |
| 13:08:35 | dj-fu | worked after a reboot strangely |
| 13:08:38 | * | dj-fu disables tagcache |
| 13:11:44 | dj-fu | eh, retail firmware isn't faster paul |
| 13:11:45 | dj-fu | 51199488 bytes (51 MB) copied, 13.6174 seconds, 3.8 MB/s <−− retail firmware iPod nano 4gb |
| 13:11:56 | dj-fu | 51199488 bytes (51 MB) copied, 13.7079 seconds, 3.7 MB/s <−− rockbox |
| 13:12:05 | dj-fu | no magnitudes there |
| 13:12:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | As I said, for most people |
| 13:12:15 | Kohlrabi | :) |
| 13:12:16 | dj-fu | unless I have one of those magic ones |
| 13:12:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: You're a nano, and you were copying multiple files? |
| 13:12:31 | Kohlrabi | btw: are there any plans/patches for MOD-support for rb? |
| 13:12:40 | dj-fu | Paul_The_Nerd, just a 'dd' test |
| 13:12:56 | dj-fu | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/media/disk/file.random bs=512 count=99999 |
| 13:12:59 | dj-fu | and file.random2 |
| 13:13:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | dj-fu: Not the same thing, then. Try copying a .rockbox folder over. And you are using a Nano, right? |
| 13:13:29 | dj-fu | yeah, nano 4gb |
| 13:14:06 | dj-fu | i'll just take ya word for it |
| 13:14:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it doesn't happen to everyone. Just most of us. 7 minutes for the .rockbox folder in Disk Mode, ~8 seconds in Retail. |
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| 13:14:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's very definitely not a "it feels longer" style different. ;-) |
| 13:14:59 | dj-fu | nasty |
| 13:15:00 | dj-fu | let me test |
| 13:15:02 | dj-fu | i'l reformat it |
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| 13:15:35 | Galois | it's good to know that someone else out there also has a magic nano |
| 13:16:45 | dj-fu | man, took <1second for a cvs .rockbox |
| 13:16:48 | {edf}ss | this is not specifically rockbox related, but is there another method of connecting an ipod nano that simply charges it, and is not set for data transfer? I'm just looking for some way to charge it faster :) |
| 13:16:54 | * | dj-fu highfives Galois |
| 13:17:08 | Cassandra | {edf}ss, hold down menu when you plug in the charger. |
| 13:17:10 | dj-fu | {edf}ss, you can hold down menu when you plug it in to listen to music & charge at same time |
| 13:17:12 | dj-fu | ^^ |
| 13:17:13 | dj-fu | ;x |
| 13:17:15 | Cassandra | That's ROckboxo specific. |
| 13:17:33 | Mikachu | maybe you just have write caching enabled? |
| 13:17:33 | {edf}ss | I don't want to listen to music, I just want the battery to be FULL as soon as possible |
| 13:17:54 | Cassandra | Well, if you don't use it, it will charge. |
| 13:18:08 | Mikachu | {edf}ss: it will probably charge faster in apple os |
| 13:18:12 | Cassandra | There's no way to charge with the power off. |
| 13:18:15 | dj-fu | not that I know of, Mikachu |
| 13:18:16 | dj-fu | /dev/sda2 on /media/sda2 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=077) |
| 13:18:23 | dj-fu | mounted with pmount/hald |
| 13:18:36 | Mikachu | dj-fu: then you have caching on, try writing "sync" |
| 13:18:50 | {edf}ss | ok I'll leave it in the plain old apple menu flashing ZOMG DO NOT DISCONNECT OR YOU WILL BURN IN HELLLLL!!!!!!1 |
| 13:18:53 | Cassandra | I'm pretty sure the iPod charger is hardware based and thus firmware independent. |
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| 13:19:26 | Mikachu | Cassandra: if rockbox uses more power charging will be slower |
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| 13:19:43 | Mikachu | {edf}ss: i changed the message to mikachu rules yay :P |
| 13:19:51 | dj-fu | nasty |
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| 13:19:56 | dj-fu | it is a lot slower with 'sync' |
| 13:20:02 | fidel | hi |
| 13:20:05 | dj-fu | 2m 19sec to delete .rockbox |
| 13:20:08 | {edf}ss | Mikachu you edited the apple firmware? |
| 13:20:15 | Mikachu | dj-fu: i mean typing sync in a command line, not adding sync to the options |
| 13:20:22 | dj-fu | oh, doh. |
| 13:20:25 | Mikachu | dj-fu: don't use sync for mounting, it will wear out the flash a lot faster |
| 13:21:17 | fidel | is there a special playce where i should put my music files on using rockbox. or can i just put them whereever i wan them to be ? |
| 13:21:38 | dj-fu | anywhere |
| 13:21:38 | Galois | anywhere except iPod_Control |
| 13:21:46 | Mikachu | you can put it there too if you want |
| 13:21:48 | dj-fu | music\artist\album\ is usually a good layout |
| 13:21:50 | Cassandra | You can probably put them there too. |
| 13:21:54 | fidel | ok thx |
| 13:22:04 | Galois | you can if you fiddle with the settings to display iPod_Control files |
| 13:22:08 | Cassandra | Gods the Apple fw takes forever to load. |
| 13:22:15 | dj-fu | aye, it does. |
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| 13:22:24 | fidel | 2nd question:are there custom themes for rockbox ? |
| 13:22:29 | dj-fu | yes |
| 13:22:32 | fidel | nice |
| 13:22:32 | dj-fu | see wpsgallery wiki node |
| 13:22:40 | fidel | thx again |
| 13:22:51 | dj-fu | you could also make your own, but wps is a nasty litle tag language |
| 13:23:00 | dj-fu | imho, anyway |
| 13:23:23 | Mikachu | it would be a lot more fun with a rendering editor |
| 13:23:31 | dj-fu | oh yeah |
| 13:25:02 | fidel | ok: third one :D If i want to view video files via rockbox. do i need a special format for those media files ? if yes, which & is there a converter available ? |
| 13:25:10 | dj-fu | I don' think video viewing works |
| 13:25:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's no video in Rockbox on any SWCodec targets |
| 13:25:37 | Mikachu | it doesn't not work as much as it isn't implemented at all |
| 13:25:47 | fidel | ok then i need to know howto select if i boot into rockbox or apple software |
| 13:25:50 | dj-fu | lol |
| 13:26:00 | dj-fu | hold down Menu to boot into apple software |
| 13:26:02 | dj-fu | when ya turn it on |
| 13:26:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | fidel: I'd honestly suggest reading the IpodFAQ page. |
| 13:26:17 | dj-fu | that's probably a good place to start :p |
| 13:26:21 | fidel | ok then. :D |
| 13:26:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though I do just hype it because I want to feel useful. ;-) |
| 13:26:44 | fidel | hrhr |
| 13:27:33 | dj-fu | hur hur! highfive |
| 13:29:43 | {edf}ss | What do you guys use for a hex editor, for changing txt values in the ipod firmware, for example? |
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| 13:30:43 | dj-fu | Mikachu, should I usually 'sync' before unmounting? or is it automatic |
| 13:30:55 | Mikachu | umount will sync |
| 13:30:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think the general consensus is that the iPod firmware is something to be "tolerated if necessary" rather than "used" :-P |
| 13:31:11 | dj-fu | damn right paul |
| 13:31:15 | Mikachu | dj-fu: and eject will umount |
| 13:31:21 | dj-fu | I actually don't boot into it at all |
| 13:31:26 | dj-fu | Mikachu, ok, just checking |
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| 13:36:48 | {edf}ss | so are the SCUMM games playable? I can't imagine the txt is easy to see |
| 13:36:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nobody's ported Scumm yet. |
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| 13:37:11 | {edf}ss | oh, someone said they're gonna play Monkey Island |
| 13:37:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | They said they were gonna listen to MI music, actually. |
| 13:38:01 | dongs | linuxstb: i see |
| 13:38:20 | {edf}ss | ah, my mistake :) MI Music...I don't even remember it, is it any good? |
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| 13:39:42 | dongs | ok i see. |
| 13:39:47 | dongs | so junk before 0x200 is crap |
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| 13:40:37 | linuxstb | It's not junk, it's the firmware header used by the Apple bootloader. |
| 13:40:45 | dongs | right. |
| 13:40:56 | dongs | hm |
| 13:41:22 | dongs | so i load at offset 0x200, and make that mapped to 0 in memory? |
| 13:42:09 | linuxstb | It's not quite that simple - it will probably start off at offset 0x10000000 and then get changed to 0x00000000. |
| 13:42:32 | dongs | is apples firmware position independent code? |
| 13:43:09 | linuxstb | No idea - I've never really looked at it. The IPL people will know more. |
| 13:43:10 | dongs | hm wow this looks very very similar to my brew phone's area at address 0 |
| 13:43:19 | dongs | same 8 xx xx xx EA instructions |
| 13:43:25 | dongs | followed by platform name |
| 13:43:25 | linuxstb | Yes - all ARM firmware will have those. |
| 13:43:55 | {edf}ss | Well guys I really am going to sleep now, thanks for the assistance, ttyl. |
| 13:45:32 | fidel | interessting project. thx to the developers (just to mention that :)) |
| 13:46:02 | dongs | linuxstb: so those first 8 are to memory offsets? |
| 13:46:06 | dongs | from 0? |
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| 13:46:50 | dongs | hm that doesnt make sense. unless the address is encoded. on my nano those vectors point to the portalplayer copyright string. |
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| 13:48:16 | linuxstb | dongs: No, they are branch instructions. |
| 13:50:17 | dongs | ah, the branch instruction takes address * 4 |
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| 13:59:56 | JdGordon | so how close to the end of the freeze are we? |
| 14:00 |
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| 14:00:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's probably the 29th, since it doesn't seem like it'll be tomorrow. |
| 14:00:40 | DaBlade | Hello |
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| 14:00:52 | DaBlade | Does RockBox support Creative's Zen line of players? |
| 14:00:53 | Doomed | morning |
| 14:01:07 | dongs | nice im finally getting some useful stuff. |
| 14:01:10 | preglow | dongs: no |
| 14:01:12 | preglow | eh |
| 14:01:12 | preglow | DaBlade: no |
| 14:01:14 | dongs | DaBlade: i dont think so. www.rockbox.org for supported platforms. |
| 14:01:15 | DaBlade | Damn |
| 14:01:24 | DaBlade | Are there any plans for it? |
| 14:01:38 | DaBlade | Or do you know of any other projects that do? |
| 14:01:38 | preglow | linuxstb: we know anything about if the h10 has any fancy-ass anti-bricking stuff going on? |
| 14:01:41 | JdGordon | dont think so |
| 14:01:47 | DaBlade | I wanna play Vorbis on my Zen Touch. lol |
| 14:01:50 | preglow | DaBlade: no plans, we don't really have any info on the hardware |
| 14:01:57 | dongs | STMFD is a usual start-of-subroutine instruction? it seems to be saving registers or somethign. |
| 14:02:13 | preglow | dongs: it does |
| 14:02:21 | Doomed | H10 would be awsom e |
| 14:02:21 | DaBlade | preglow: So you need information in it? Could stuff like dmesg output and such help? |
| 14:02:24 | preglow | it's usually among the first instructions |
| 14:02:45 | preglow | DaBlade: what, zen runs linux? |
| 14:02:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: People have bricked the H10 through "theming" so I imagine they're easier to brick than an iPod. |
| 14:02:58 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: blah |
| 14:02:59 | DaBlade | preglow: No, but I'm using GNU/Linux on my PC... :P |
| 14:03:02 | preglow | then we'll need jtag for it |
| 14:03:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 14:03:09 | preglow | DaBlade: not much help |
| 14:03:18 | DaBlade | Damn. |
| 14:03:18 | preglow | DaBlade: someone needs to open them up and see what's in them, unless it's already been done |
| 14:03:22 | preglow | then we need to get data sheets |
| 14:03:43 | DaBlade | Well, there are already working PC-side programs for it |
| 14:03:52 | DaBlade | libnjb for instance, which is used by apps to access it |
| 14:03:55 | preglow | again, doesn't help us much |
| 14:04:02 | preglow | we need to put code on the device |
| 14:04:08 | Doomed | wow that sucks bricking on themeing :( |
| 14:04:15 | DaBlade | Damn |
| 14:06:18 | linuxstb | preglow: I've no idea how the H10 boots... |
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| 14:07:27 | Doomed | its like a sleep mode |
| 14:07:37 | Doomed | for like everything, |
| 14:07:50 | Doomed | unless u reset it, it goes through the normal boot |
| 14:10:13 | preglow | i've got a feeling we'll need jtag for it |
| 14:10:49 | dongs | wow arm asm looks fucking stupid |
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| 14:16:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: The H10s also don't have an easy UMS mode, I believe. I keep reading about "tricks" and such. And then there's the H10jr, the normal (5/6gigs-ish) and the 20gig version, I'm not sure if all three types have the same hardware or not. Our page doesn't seem very informative... |
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| 14:20:19 | Bagder | I think there are UMS h10 models |
| 14:20:50 | Bagder | so perhaps the ones who don't have it, restrict it via sw or something |
| 14:21:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: Yeah, it's a software restriction. Both the 5/6 and the 20gigs can be accessed via UMS using trickery (things involving removing the battery etc, strange stuff some of it.) Just saying an actual USB driver would probably be needed, instead of rebooting to the retail firmware. ;-) |
| 14:22:11 | Bagder | ah, true |
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| 14:22:21 | amiconn | Hah |
| 14:22:39 | * | amiconn wonders why no 5g rockbox user complained... |
| 14:22:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Complained about? |
| 14:22:51 | amiconn | There's a bug in storing the scroll step size |
| 14:23:05 | amiconn | It won't store scroll steps > 255 correctly |
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| 14:23:21 | * | amiconn is shuffling settings bits around |
| 14:23:51 | * | JdGordon is trying to get nas working |
| 14:24:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | nas? |
| 14:24:27 | JdGordon | network audio system... |
| 14:24:41 | amiconn | preglow: Is there a reason why the decimator gain is stored separately from the analog gain? |
| 14:24:56 | amiconn | Iirc the gains are combined in the UI now |
| 14:29:22 | preglow | there's a single option, so there should be a single setting |
| 14:29:29 | dongs | alac = is that apple lossless shit? |
| 14:29:33 | preglow | dongs: yes |
| 14:29:36 | dongs | k |
| 14:29:46 | preglow | amiconn: no idea why it's done like that |
| 14:29:57 | preglow | didn't petur commit that code? |
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| 14:36:29 | XavierGr | amicinn: did you say something about a battery_bench bug earlier? |
| 14:36:54 | XavierGr | ^amiconn |
| 14:36:56 | amiconn | yes. |
| 14:37:26 | XavierGr | you had a problem when making a benchmark? |
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| 14:38:00 | amiconn | The problem is that battery_bench only monitors whether the disk is spinning. It does this based on the spindown timeout, but: |
| 14:38:27 | amiconn | When playing music, the playback code calls ata_sleep() which sleeps the disk after half a second |
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| 14:39:06 | amiconn | So on archos, battery_bench starts its write action when the playback code already performed the disk spindown |
| 14:39:39 | amiconn | This causes a spinup, with no quick spindown this time, but the standard spindown timeout |
| 14:40:13 | amiconn | It doesn't cause problems running a benchmark, but it shifts the result due to the additional spinups |
| 14:40:37 | XavierGr | and that appears only on archos_models? |
| 14:40:58 | amiconn | I only observed it on archos so far, probably because they have way less ram, |
| 14:41:16 | amiconn | so rebuffering, while occuring more often, takes only a short time |
| 14:41:37 | amiconn | Obviously too short for battery_bench to catch it in time... |
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| 14:43:18 | XavierGr | well battery_bench will never utilize a spinup by itself, it will try to catch the disk in a spinup condition, if not data is written on the memmory until in the end manages to grasp a spin. |
| 14:43:22 | amiconn | There's no simple solution for that problem I'm afraid |
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| 14:43:52 | amiconn | We need a callback implementation |
| 14:43:52 | XavierGr | but you say that ata_sleep() is called. So I assume that the disk is stopped before the disk spindown time? |
| 14:44:00 | amiconn | yes |
| 14:44:12 | amiconn | After the Q_SLEEP interval, which is half a second |
| 14:44:28 | amiconn | The swcodec playback code does the same, |
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| 14:45:03 | amiconn | but it seems that the disk spins long enough for battery_bench to catch it before ata_sleep() |
| 14:45:03 | XavierGr | so how much time a full rebuffer is needed by archos? |
| 14:46:04 | amiconn | spinup time + roughly 1 second |
| 14:46:26 | amiconn | Disk reading is quite fast on archos (asm optimised :-) ) |
| 14:46:43 | amiconn | Ondio is way slower though, so no problem there |
| 14:48:14 | XavierGr | ah so you say that the plugin sees the spinup (let's say in the end) and the spindown timer is reset making the disk spining longer, right? |
| 14:48:29 | amiconn | No |
| 14:48:41 | XavierGr | :( |
| 14:48:43 | amiconn | I think one of 2 things happen |
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| 14:48:50 | dongs | ASR = ? |
| 14:48:53 | shriphani | i need help folks |
| 14:49:09 | shriphani | i just put rockbox on my ipod but the bloody font is so small that ........... |
| 14:49:16 | dongs | change font. |
| 14:49:22 | shriphani | how ? |
| 14:49:24 | amiconn | Either the plugin sees the spinup and starts its write action, but the disk already spun down again in the meantime, causing a second spinup |
| 14:49:25 | dongs | press menu, setings, display, browse fonts. |
| 14:49:31 | shriphani | ok |
| 14:49:32 | dongs | use a mangnifying glass if needed. |
| 14:49:36 | shriphani | lol |
| 14:49:44 | shriphani | and how do i get the required codecs |
| 14:49:53 | dongs | they're already included. |
| 14:49:57 | dongs | all the ones that your device supports. |
| 14:50:00 | shriphani | bcoz for a few songs rockbox reports missing codecs |
| 14:50:05 | dongs | orly |
| 14:50:06 | amiconn | or the plugin doesn't catch the spinups at all, causing it to save after the 60 minutes interval elapsed |
| 14:50:10 | dongs | duno never tried it with anything but mp3 |
| 14:50:13 | shriphani | like a song called shaan feat blue |
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| 14:50:33 | shriphani | it worked on my ipod previously but now rockbox reports a missing codec |
| 14:50:54 | shriphani | and i am dead sure that it is a MP3 file |
| 14:51:04 | stripwax | shriphani - does the file play in , say, Winamp? |
| 14:51:12 | shriphani | and every other MP3 plays superb |
| 14:51:28 | shriphani | any ideas ? |
| 14:51:29 | linuxstb | What exactly does Rockbox say? |
| 14:51:34 | dpro | shriphani: maybe it contains DRM ? |
| 14:51:45 | stripwax | dpro (MP3 files can't contain DRM can they?) |
| 14:52:20 | dpro | stripwax: well there's some stupid xml encapsulation stuff that can easily be done f.ex. (nokia does this) |
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| 14:53:17 | stripwax | shriphani- like I said, can you play this MP3 file in Winamp, or some other software on your PC? Also, like linuxstb said, what *Exactly* is the error message rockbox reports? |
| 14:53:36 | shriphani | yes |
| 14:53:38 | dongs | why the hell would ipod have this string in it |
| 14:53:43 | shriphani | codec missing |
| 14:53:48 | shriphani | thats the only message |
| 14:53:50 | XavierGr | amiconn: I think you can check if the last is happening. Via the log you can see when the logging happened and in conjuction with the M/DA you can make sure how many measurements where done before a disk spin up |
| 14:53:56 | dongs | Memory full. %d notes loaded, some notes not loaded. (30) |
| 14:54:01 | dongs | notes?? |
| 14:54:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | shriphani: I don't think there's an error string that says exactly "codec missing" |
| 14:54:11 | shriphani | just wait |
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| 14:54:18 | linuxstb | shriphani: I can't find it either... |
| 14:54:25 | shriphani | that is the substance of the statement |
| 14:54:36 | amiconn | XavierGr: I didn't check the logs yet. I am performing a full playback(discharge) - charge(idle) cycle on both recorder & player |
| 14:54:37 | stripwax | shriphani- great but what are the WORDS in the statement |
| 14:54:51 | amiconn | Should be finished tonight, then I'll check the logs |
| 14:54:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | shriphani: You were asked what exactly it said. Honestly, these people know more about the software than you, so generally you should trust that they know when something is important. |
| 14:55:03 | linuxstb | shriphani: We need the exact error message, so we can look for it in the source code and try to explain to you what it means. |
| 14:55:08 | XavierGr | amiconn: nice then |
| 14:55:37 | dongs | does ipod load midi files or something? |
| 14:55:37 | shriphani | jusdt a second |
| 14:56:05 | shriphani | it is playing them now ! |
| 14:56:09 | shriphani | yay! |
| 14:56:11 | dongs | lol. |
| 14:56:19 | stripwax | shriphani - heh. nice error. |
| 14:56:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm guessing you were using TagCache. |
| 14:57:44 | shriphani | yeah |
| 14:57:54 | shriphani | and i went to browse fonts |
| 14:58:00 | shriphani | nothing comes up |
| 14:58:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did you download the font archive? |
| 14:58:12 | shriphani | oh shit |
| 14:58:15 | shriphani | didnt |
| 14:58:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | 's probably why |
| 14:58:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's on the daily build page |
| 14:58:38 | shriphani | the font archive ? |
| 14:58:47 | shriphani | and i just put it in the root folder ? |
| 14:59:06 | shriphani | of my ipod that is |
| 14:59:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just extract it into the root |
| 14:59:20 | shriphani | ok |
| 14:59:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | It should create a folder under .rockbox called fonts. |
| 14:59:24 | shriphani | and yeah |
| 14:59:35 | shriphani | it'll do it itself |
| 14:59:41 | shriphani | or should i put it there |
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| 15:00:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | It should create a folder under .rockbox called fonts. |
| 15:00:37 | shriphani | ok |
| 15:00:43 | shriphani | thank u very much |
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| 15:01:55 | shriphani | and yeah |
| 15:02:09 | shriphani | some songs r still untagged |
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| 15:02:21 | shriphani | what about them |
| 15:02:31 | shriphani | hey Paul_The_Nerd |
| 15:02:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | What are you asking? |
| 15:02:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Untagged songs are untagged songs... |
| 15:02:46 | shriphani | certain files r untagged |
| 15:02:48 | linuxstb | shriphani: If they are untagged, then tag them... |
| 15:02:52 | shriphani | so how do i tag them |
| 15:02:56 | shriphani | via itunes ? |
| 15:03:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Any tag editor will work. |
| 15:03:06 | whatboutbob | amiconn: speaking of battery benchmarks (yeah...i'm a little slow)...I just ran one for spdif recording. |
| 15:03:18 | shriphani | like itunes ? |
| 15:03:38 | linuxstb | I don't use itunes, so I don't know if it adds tags to files, or only in its own database. |
| 15:03:43 | Siku | a quick question: does Rockbox's AAC decoder support HE-AAC (v1 & v2)? |
| 15:03:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Siku: No. |
| 15:03:56 | Siku | ok, thanks |
| 15:03:59 | whatboutbob | ...reminded me that rockbox doesn't write wav headers before battery runs out...even tho the recording appears to stop before shutting down. |
| 15:04:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | shriphani: Try it and find out is the best I can say. |
| 15:04:22 | shriphani | ok lool |
| 15:07:17 | dongs | lol @ apple compiling ipod firmware on windows |
| 15:07:22 | dongs | i bet they arent using gcc either. |
| 15:07:44 | shriphani | and yeah |
| 15:07:57 | shriphani | if my ipod updater updates my ipod will it f00k up ? |
| 15:08:10 | dongs | i think so |
| 15:08:14 | XavierGr | whatboutbob: how long did you managed to record? |
| 15:08:14 | dpro | whatboutbob: so we need a sox plugin ;) |
| 15:08:16 | dongs | it'll trash rockbox, yeah |
| 15:08:20 | dongs | so just redo it again. |
| 15:08:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | It'll destroy our bootloader. You'll have to redo all steps from "ipodpatcher -r N bootpartition.bin" to "ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin" |
| 15:08:36 | shriphani | ok i aint updating it |
| 15:08:43 | dongs | you could. |
| 15:08:51 | dongs | it only takes like 3 steps to put it back in. |
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| 15:09:24 | shriphani | yeah |
| 15:09:29 | shriphani | ok i'll update |
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| 15:10:15 | * | t0mas joins the party :P |
| 15:10:22 | shriphani | ok guys unzipped file in root folder |
| 15:10:32 | shriphani | that should be it isnt it ? |
| 15:10:39 | XavierGr | now we've got a lot of oppers |
| 15:10:57 | whatboutbob | XavierGr: 13.5 hrs w remote clip light activating every so often (i wanted to simulate 'real-life' recording as closely as possible...) |
| 15:11:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | shriphani: You didn't say what file, or anything. |
| 15:11:15 | XavierGr | where you were guys? The whole weekend a bloody troll made quite a fuss here. |
| 15:11:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | XavierGr: I'm not normally an op. I've been deputized to watch for the troll. |
| 15:12:00 | XavierGr | whatboutbob: wow! 13.5 hours with optical in/out. Normal battery? |
| 15:12:04 | whatboutbob | dpro: sox? |
| 15:12:16 | whatboutbob | XavierGr: hehe...nope...2200mAh. |
| 15:12:30 | XavierGr | ah that's why! |
| 15:12:36 | XavierGr | But it is much anyway |
| 15:13:07 | XavierGr | even with a nromal battery it will record for quite some time. |
| 15:13:09 | * | amiconn got 21hours of playback out of his new recorder battery set :) |
| 15:13:12 | whatboutbob | should be about 8 hrs with the stock battery, but someone else has reported 6 (not sure how old the battery was) |
| 15:13:18 | dpro | whatboutbob: http://sox.sourceforge.net/ (to make pcm -> wav after the battery ran out ;) |
| 15:13:32 | dongs | Paul_The_Nerd: someon was trolling>> |
| 15:13:33 | dongs | ?? |
| 15:13:49 | XavierGr | then I guess H100 is the ultra protable reocrding device! |
| 15:13:55 | whatboutbob | dpro: ah. cool. thanks. its easy enough to fix |
| 15:14:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: Yeah, other than your occasional anti-FOSS sniping, there was a much more consistently annoying troll. |
| 15:14:18 | whatboutbob | XavierGr: Its pretty damn handy now, thanks to rockbox...yeah. :) |
| 15:14:26 | amiconn | whatboutbob: Did you have spdif out enabled, or not? |
| 15:14:33 | JdGordon | any linux gurus here?? |
| 15:14:40 | whatboutbob | amiconn: nope |
| 15:14:50 | dongs | i cant believe people troll on irc. |
| 15:14:52 | dongs | so unproductive. |
| 15:15:00 | dpro | JdGordon: no, but ask your question and see for yourself ;) |
| 15:15:13 | shriphani | Paul_The_Nerd the fonts dir |
| 15:15:14 | JdGordon | haha |
| 15:15:21 | whatboutbob | amiconn: think that would have a significant impact? |
| 15:15:21 | dpro | dongs: and it's so much more fun on lists ;) |
| 15:15:21 | shriphani | i unzipped it in the root folder |
| 15:15:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | shriphani: If there's now a /.rockbox/fonts folder full of fonts, then you're set. |
| 15:15:37 | dongs | fonts needs to go into .rockbox |
| 15:15:38 | amiconn | Probably not significant, but a bit |
| 15:15:39 | shriphani | ok |
| 15:16:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | dongs: The archive is compressed with subdirectories, so you should be able to extract it into the root of your player, as long as it's done properly. |
| 15:16:02 | tim66 | if you're using spdif on an iriver, would it be possible to disable the analog input/output to save on power consumption?? |
| 15:16:04 | XavierGr | ok the viewer is seriously f*cked up. It hangs both simulator and my player whenever I try to scroll right with wide mode on |
| 15:16:05 | shriphani | yups there |
| 15:16:28 | amiconn | tim66: Analog input & adc are deactivated when recording from spdif |
| 15:16:36 | whatboutbob | tim66: 8 hrs not enough for ya? ;) |
| 15:16:40 | amiconn | Analog output is always enabled |
| 15:16:42 | tim66 | well... |
| 15:17:09 | tim66 | it would be nice to have the option of analog out, digitial out, or both. if that were possible/? |
| 15:17:35 | tim66 | always nice to have a few hours left to playback after a recording is made |
| 15:18:05 | amiconn | I think the analog output power consumption is negletible, even compared to the low impact of spdif out, as long as there is no load to drive |
| 15:18:10 | amiconn | (i.e. headphone) |
| 15:18:39 | shriphani | thanks Paul_The_Nerd |
| 15:18:40 | whatboutbob | i think i get about 26hrs flac playback w/ my battery...has been a while since i tested tho. |
| 15:19:33 | tim66 | amiconn: even driving the DAC? |
| 15:19:36 | amiconn | The biggest drain while recording is most probably the disk spinup. The pcm recording itself is 'boring' to the cpu |
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| 15:20:52 | whatboutbob | any of you folks heard of the MicroTrack? Its a 24/96 recording device. A chap over at TapersSection had his Li-ion battery explode on him. |
| 15:21:07 | whatboutbob | Flame-thrower-esque... |
| 15:21:44 | dpro | amiconn: hehe 'boring' ... nice anthopomorhization ... mine esp. 'enjoys' prime factoring |
| 15:21:49 | dongs | microtrack rules |
| 15:21:53 | dongs | is that the m-audio thing? |
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| 15:25:45 | whatboutbob_ | dongs: yeah |
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| 15:26:14 | dongs | that thing is awesome |
| 15:26:21 | whatboutbob_ | imagine this happening inside of it tho: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~gdodds/rcstuff/movies/lipofire_1.wmv |
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| 15:26:43 | whatboutbob_ | and keep in mind that a lot of tapers keep those things in their pockets... |
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| 15:27:03 | dongs | nice |
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| 15:27:06 | dongs | right in your pants |
| 15:27:38 | whatboutbob | try explaining that away to security as your being loaded into the ambulance: 'sorry...i had mexican food for dinner...' |
| 15:28:00 | whatboutbob | *you're |
| 15:28:38 | dongs | tell them you installed linix. |
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| 15:32:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Alright folks, I'm off to war. Be back later |
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| 15:32:05 | XavierGr | wtf! |
| 15:32:48 | XavierGr | I am really annoyed when I am debuggin and the bug appears to be nowhere |
| 15:33:04 | Mikachu | i for one really love that situation |
| 15:33:09 | dpro | XavierGr: then it's a feature >;-> |
| 15:33:18 | XavierGr | the viewer hangs if someone uses the wide mode with a txt file more than 190 characters |
| 15:33:28 | XavierGr | I put splashed over the place |
| 15:34:04 | XavierGr | and what I have found is that the sim crashes just after viewer_draw ends but never reaches the next instruction |
| 15:34:47 | XavierGr | I have one splash at the end of the function and another one after the call. First splash occurs (end of function) but it will never reach the second. |
| 15:35:01 | amiconn | Use gdb on the sim |
| 15:35:02 | XavierGr | the strange thing is that between those calls there is no code |
| 15:35:17 | amiconn | There *is* code - the function return |
| 15:35:38 | mirak | hey |
| 15:35:39 | XavierGr | hm I should check the value then |
| 15:36:08 | XavierGr | well the function is void (but I guess there is somthing in return even for void I am not sure about those details |
| 15:36:13 | mirak | I don't remember the reason why on H300 it's not possible to be in UMS mode while charging from USB at the same tim |
| 15:36:15 | mirak | e |
| 15:36:18 | amiconn | What I would do: Run under gdb control, let it crash, then inspect the backtrace |
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| 15:37:08 | XavierGr | amiconn: ok let me see if I can run gdb and understand what's going on (and how to use it) |
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| 15:37:34 | amiconn | XavierGr: I didn't say there is a return value; I meant that there is code executed between the end of the function and your next splash after the call |
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| 15:42:34 | XavierGr | why on earth a function cannot exit, I am wondering |
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| 15:45:27 | XavierGr | it is very weird, sometimes the sim will crash others it will just hang. (while the command lines continues to uoput events, like backlight condition) |
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| 15:46:08 | dongs | so you failed it? |
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| 15:57:01 | Falco98 | ok, there's something i can't figure out with WPS's |
| 15:57:24 | Falco98 | anyone around know much about WPS coding? |
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| 15:59:55 | dongs | not me. |
| 15:59:59 | dongs | i support text-only wps. |
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| 16:04:24 | linuxstb | Falco98: What's your WPS problem? |
| 16:05:57 | Falco98 | linuxstb: i'm confused about how loaded graphics are displayed |
| 16:06:07 | Falco98 | that is to say, where they are positioned on the screen |
| 16:06:12 | dongs | very carefully |
| 16:06:52 | PaulJam | you define the position of the images when they get preloaded |
| 16:06:53 | Falco98 | like, for example, in iamp... it displays the battery-charge icons, but how does it choose the position? |
| 16:07:07 | dongs | rockbox should just implement a HTML/CSS parser and javascript then WPS's can be made really awesome. |
| 16:07:35 | Falco98 | oh, so the 2 numbers following an image load are X,Y coords? |
| 16:07:44 | Falco98 | (from the bottom-left corner i'm guessing?) |
| 16:08:12 | PaulJam | e.g. an image preloaded by : %xl|c|batt0.bmp|2|5| will be shown at the coordinates 2x5 |
| 16:08:32 | Falco98 | ahh ok |
| 16:09:02 | Falco98 | and are the coords in terms of lines, spaces then? |
| 16:09:06 | PaulJam | the upper left corner is 0x0 |
| 16:09:14 | Falco98 | (i suppose they could be pixels but something tells me that would be wrong) |
| 16:09:22 | PaulJam | pixels |
| 16:09:50 | Falco98 | whoops upper-left yeah |
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| 16:16:49 | Falco98 | BTW, what happens if i plug in my USB cable while my h140 is playing? |
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| 16:20:17 | PaulJam | it stops playing and goes to usb mode, unless you hold the rec button while plugging in, then it charges from usb |
| 16:21:29 | linuxstb | I think that only works on the H3x0 - the H1x0 doesn't support charging via USB. |
| 16:21:46 | Falco98 | ok |
| 16:21:56 | PaulJam | oh, sorry. i forgot that. |
| 16:22:00 | Falco98 | i care not so much about charging via USB as "not bricking my player" :-P |
| 16:22:41 | JdGordon | bout fucking time... we will finally be allowed to rip cds to mp3 and record tv in australia once laws are passed :D |
| 16:23:12 | whatboutbob | jdgordon: have they given a timeframe? |
| 16:23:55 | JdGordon | http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/music-to-the-ears/2006/05/13/1146940775897.html quick skim doesnt show a timeframe |
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| 16:24:55 | Mikachu | i liked how the slashdot article said something like "which you have been allowed to do in the us for a long time" as if the us is in any way an example of a country where you have some sort of freedom |
| 16:25:04 | whatboutbob | jdg: you realise the main reason they're doing it is cos of the US free trade agreement? |
| 16:25:14 | JdGordon | meh, i dont care why... |
| 16:25:24 | JdGordon | and the us fta isnt such a bad thing... |
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| 16:26:06 | whatboutbob | not saying it is...i just think its lousy that it takes that for the aussie govt to do anything about our antiquated copyright laws. |
| 16:26:50 | stripwax | Falco98 - it won't brick anything |
| 16:26:52 | Falco98 | haha |
| 16:27:02 | stripwax | ? |
| 16:27:03 | Falco98 | stripwax: k, thanx |
| 16:27:15 | stripwax | no worries |
| 16:27:16 | Falco98 | "haha" was in regards to jdgordon :-P |
| 16:27:35 | Falco98 | i didn't know CD ripping was disallowed in australia |
| 16:27:53 | Falco98 | then again, according to iTunes, it's illegal here too... |
| 16:28:12 | ScoTTie | recording tv shows onto tape is illegal in .au |
| 16:28:57 | Falco98 | youch. |
| 16:29:22 | Mikachu | you have to pay a license to own a tv in sweden |
| 16:29:29 | whatboutbob | ...but only cos our poiticians have been too lazy to change the law since 1968. |
| 16:29:35 | JdGordon | so imagine how much worse downloading tv eps from ameica coz our crappy networks stop screening a series mid season!! |
| 16:30:08 | whatboutbob | JdG: that's the only reason i got into torrenting...when 9 frigged with the West Wing. |
| 16:30:20 | JdGordon | haha, same |
| 16:30:33 | JdGordon | and is the last ep tonight usa time :'( |
| 16:30:43 | whatboutbob | mm-hmm... :( |
| 16:31:23 | whatboutbob | i liked how 9 were advertising it as the 'season finale' though...when it was like the 9th ep of the season. |
| 16:31:47 | * | whatboutbob thinks we've gone off-topic. :-) |
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| 16:33:19 | seeker | hi all... just installed rockbox on an iaudio x5. the manual says that i should be able to reach the main menu by holding play. somehow this doesn't seem to work. is this possibly a bug in todays daily build or am i doing something wrong? |
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| 16:38:08 | whatboutbob | g'night folks. |
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| 16:38:46 | * | seeker wonders if nobody can help him |
| 16:38:48 | linuxstb | seeker: It could be a bug in the manual - try pressing record. |
| 16:39:06 | seeker | linuxstb: hmm tried this already shows up play mode settings |
| 16:39:20 | linuxstb | Try a shorter press. |
| 16:39:29 | linuxstb | (or longer...) |
| 16:40:01 | seeker | linuxstb: aah yes! thanks a lot. that was it: pressing rec just very shortly |
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| 16:43:42 | JdGordon | Falco98: did u try out the patch yet? |
| 16:46:48 | Falco98 | yeah |
| 16:46:51 | Falco98 | it seems to work |
| 16:47:02 | JdGordon | :) |
| 16:47:45 | Falco98 | ok question... i have the USB plugged into my h140 (plugged in when it was already on), and now i'm trying to do something, but the HDD access light is just blinking constantly and it's no longer responding in explorer |
| 16:49:49 | JdGordon | gnite all |
| 16:49:53 | Falco98 | ahh ok, i think i might have accidentally told it to shut down while in USB mode −− it just sat there frozen until i tried hitting "play" again which caused a soft-reset |
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| 16:53:36 | PierreTramo | hi! |
| 16:53:51 | PierreTramo | i'd like to use (or try) rockbox with iriver h320 |
| 16:54:02 | PierreTramo | i read the website, but a lot of parts are not clear for me |
| 16:54:12 | PierreTramo | i understood i would have multiboot... |
| 16:54:24 | PierreTramo | but if i want to update the iriver firmware, is it possible? |
| 16:54:50 | PierreTramo | can it already play a vorbis file? what about battery life, compared to the official firmware? |
| 16:57:17 | Galois | I'm sure these are all in the FAQ |
| 16:58:12 | PierreTramo | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ ? |
| 16:58:19 | Galois | well, the vorbis part is in there at least |
| 16:58:49 | PierreTramo | but i never know if you're talking about h3xx or h1xx |
| 16:59:28 | Galois | the FAQ could be improved |
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| 17:00:22 | Jungti1234 | hey! |
| 17:00:26 | PierreTramo | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort |
| 17:00:33 | PierreTramo | look at the H3x0 column... |
| 17:00:41 | Jungti1234 | Where can I get font? |
| 17:00:48 | PierreTramo | Charging -> works? doesn't? |
| 17:01:00 | PierreTramo | Codecs -> nothing means there are no codecs? |
| 17:01:01 | PierreTramo | etc. |
| 17:02:26 | Galois | http://lwn.net/Articles/169103/ kind of implies H340 works |
| 17:04:13 | Jungti1234 | hello? |
| 17:04:16 | Jungti1234 | Where can I get font? |
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| 17:07:25 | PaulJam | Jungti1234: http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=fonts |
| 17:07:45 | Jungti1234 | thanks |
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| 17:09:47 | amiconn | preglow: Do you think the signalisation which gain type is in effect (A / D) in the recording screen is crucial? |
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| 17:11:05 | amiconn | I would like to get rid of the separate decimator gain setting, but it will make this signalisation either cumbersome, or a hack of some sort |
| 17:11:18 | PierreTramo | ok |
| 17:11:54 | PierreTramo | does the download of |
| 17:11:55 | PierreTramo | http://rbh300.chendo.net/ROCKboxH300Experimental-200603121400-v1.06.zip |
| 17:12:03 | PierreTramo | works at your respective homes, please? :P |
| 17:12:13 | PierreTramo | doesn't work here :( |
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| 17:16:28 | preglow | amiconn: yes |
| 17:16:40 | amiconn | what 'yes'? |
| 17:16:52 | preglow | amiconn: if i was recording, i would want to use all the gain i could on a weak source, until it started using using digital gain |
| 17:17:32 | amiconn | Hmm, but what's the difference between applying digital gain while recording, or while post-processing? |
| 17:17:37 | amiconn | I can't see one |
| 17:17:42 | preglow | nothing, but i've got the choice then |
| 17:17:50 | preglow | i can decide later |
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| 17:17:58 | preglow | if i don't know if it's gaining digitally, i don't know anyway |
| 17:18:22 | amiconn | My point is that it shouldn't matter... |
| 17:18:39 | amiconn | You would want to use the maximum signal range, imho |
| 17:18:59 | preglow | i would want to use the maximum analogue gain, no more |
| 17:19:19 | preglow | if i decide it needs more gaining afterwards, i can do that in an audio editor |
| 17:19:32 | amiconn | Plus, (afaik) digital gain is applied before cropping to 16 bit resolution |
| 17:19:52 | preglow | possibly |
| 17:19:54 | preglow | but i still like the indicator |
| 17:20:26 | preglow | whether you are gaining analogue or digital makes a huge difference, and we shouldn't need to have the user guessing what rockbox is doing |
| 17:26:57 | amiconn | Hmm, I don't think it's such a huge difference. Rockbox uses digital gain even in the analog range, |
| 17:27:30 | amiconn | since the analog gain setting is relatively coarse (2dB steps for mic, 3dB steps for line), |
| 17:27:44 | amiconn | and digital gain has 0.5dB steps across the whole range |
| 17:28:39 | amiconn | How would you signal that? |
| 17:29:26 | preglow | it doesn't need signalling if you use first an analogue gain, then a digital cut to compensate for the lack in precision |
| 17:30:41 | ze | analog gain just needs to go as high as it can without clipping the ADC... its purpose its maximize the number of digital bits used to resolve the signal (and hopefully do less amplification of noise) |
| 17:31:17 | ze | ideally there should be no need for digital gain, just when the best-compromise analog gain setting isn't quite up to the level you want it |
| 17:31:36 | preglow | that's how it is now |
| 17:32:29 | amiconn | ze: The analog gain range of the uda is way smaller than the digital gain range. |
| 17:32:43 | amiconn | We use analog if we can, and then add digital |
| 17:33:02 | ze | i see |
| 17:33:19 | amiconn | Still, digital gain is less ugly than one might think, |
| 17:33:24 | preglow | not really, no |
| 17:33:28 | preglow | but perhaps in this case |
| 17:33:39 | amiconn | since the adc has 24bit resolution, but we only record 16bit in the final output |
| 17:34:03 | preglow | i don't believe the adc has 24 bits of real resolution, btw |
| 17:34:11 | preglow | that's pretty unlikely for such a low-cost device |
| 17:34:17 | ze | personally i'd do digital in post as a normalization, but that may not be practical for many uses with these kind of devices |
| 17:34:50 | ze | hmm |
| 17:35:01 | preglow | still, whether digital amplification is bad or not |
| 17:35:05 | preglow | it's not the same thing as analogue |
| 17:35:17 | preglow | and people have got their preferences, i just believe a partial digital amplification should be signalled as it is now |
| 17:35:21 | preglow | that's all |
| 17:35:56 | ze | i would definately agree that people should know when digital gain is being applied, if thats what you mean |
| 17:36:02 | preglow | it is |
| 17:36:52 | ze | i'm not familiar with how the gain is depicted on-screen, but maybe some visual differentiation between "analog steps" and "digital steps"? |
| 17:37:14 | preglow | it's a single range as of now, and as soon as you exceed the analogue range, a (D) is shown after the amplification value |
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| 17:37:52 | amiconn | Btw, I wonder how digital attenuation actually works |
| 17:37:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maybe a menu option for "Strict Analog" which forces steps of the analog gain step size. |
| 17:38:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Y'know, just so people know that it happens. |
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| 17:38:42 | preglow | amiconn: how? |
| 17:39:03 | amiconn | preglow: Digital gain is -64..+24dB |
| 17:39:16 | ze | preglow: so currently it's not possible to adjust in fine-steps 0db if the signal's hot enough not to exceed the analog range? |
| 17:39:26 | amiconn | When attenuating and the output signal is full-scale, what would be the input signal? |
| 17:39:59 | preglow | ehh |
| 17:40:02 | preglow | sounds impossible |
| 17:40:15 | amiconn | Ye, but it exists in the uda, and it works... |
| 17:40:38 | preglow | weird |
| 17:40:41 | preglow | but i've gotta go |
| 17:40:42 | preglow | bbl |
| 17:41:11 | ze | amiconn: only way i can see that working is maybe with a bit reduction? |
| 17:41:26 | ze | but that still doesn't sound right heh |
| 17:42:47 | dongs | linuxstb: but where exactly does the firmware 'start' at? |
| 17:42:51 | dongs | not 0, i guess. |
| 17:43:55 | amiconn | I suspect that the 'digital' gain isn't really digital. |
| 17:44:07 | amiconn | It's called 'decimator gain control' in the datasheet |
| 17:45:17 | ze | hmm |
| 17:46:16 | amiconn | It seems that the difference between 'analog' and 'digital' gain is that the 'analog' gain is applied in the preamps, and the 'digital' gain is applied in the ADC |
| 17:46:22 | amiconn | Both are in fact analog |
| 17:47:29 | ze | weird |
| 17:47:37 | ze | does that mean the ADC has its own little preamp of sorts? |
| 17:48:22 | amiconn | I interpret it the way that the 'digital gain' influences the scaling of the adc circuit itself |
| 17:48:51 | amiconn | I'll study the datasheet a bit more |
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| 17:50:15 | webguest65 | Slasheri ? |
| 17:50:16 | ze | scaling of the adc circuit, as in what voltage level it percieves as 0db? |
| 17:51:21 | amiconn | yes |
| 17:52:58 | ze | sounds weird, but interesting... if thats the case, then it doesn't sound to me like there's any analog/digital gain problem |
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| 17:54:41 | ze | though i have to wonder what undesirable consequence there might be of that, if any, and if/how it might affect the preference towards the preamp |
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| 18:12:13 | linuxstb | dongs: Yes, it starts at 0. The first branch instruction/exception vector is the reset vector IIUC, so follow that to the "real" start. |
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| 18:21:41 | Falco98 | so how can i get voume in my WPS to display as percent instead of -db? |
| 18:21:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Falco98: Have you read the CustomWPS page? |
| 18:22:05 | Falco98 | extensively |
| 18:22:11 | Falco98 | i'm missing something.. |
| 18:22:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it's not there, maybe you just can't. |
| 18:23:06 | linuxstb | afaik, you can't. You can either display the volumes in dB, or display a graphic. |
| 18:23:15 | Falco98 | well in the WPS gallery there are multiple WPS's in which the screenshot claims the volume is % |
| 18:23:21 | Falco98 | so perhaps i'm just confused.. |
| 18:23:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Do those ones require patches? |
| 18:24:16 | Falco98 | no mention of, anyway |
| 18:24:17 | hardeep | they could have been added before the change to dB |
| 18:24:23 | Falco98 | ahhhh |
| 18:24:26 | Falco98 | that would make sense |
| 18:24:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, that seems likely. |
| 18:24:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I seem to remember a patch letting you show it in WPSes too, though. %pV instead of %pv, or something |
| 18:25:01 | Falco98 | cool.. as long as i know that it's not a problem |
| 18:25:19 | Falco98 | oh |
| 18:25:30 | Falco98 | hardeep: the newest patch from JdGordon doesn't work at all |
| 18:25:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just use an image instead. People like those. They're shiny. |
| 18:25:34 | * | qwm is very disappointed in rhythmbox |
| 18:25:36 | Falco98 | haha |
| 18:25:47 | Falco98 | i find volume images to be clunky and uninformative |
| 18:25:57 | Falco98 | (and tiny and hard to see) |
| 18:25:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 18:26:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | I agree. |
| 18:26:24 | hardeep | Falco98: hmmm, i'm sure it's something simple |
| 18:26:32 | Falco98 | though it's counter-intuitive to me having volume always in the "negatives" |
| 18:27:01 | Falco98 | hardeep: yeah.. it inserts all folders in exact order, except it puts folder #2 first, and puts its first 2 tracks at the end of the playlist |
| 18:27:06 | Falco98 | or something funky like that |
| 18:27:16 | Falco98 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5338 |
| 18:27:32 | Falco98 | Egotrippen mentioned it on flyspray just about the same time i was testing it myself |
| 18:27:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Falco98: The trick is that dB volume actually tells you practical information (especially if your unit doesn't have a fixed line out). There's still the graphical version as a more intuitive way. ;-) |
| 18:28:57 | Falco98 | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, agreed.. i mean i'm getting used to dB, and like having number-exact volume meter either way.. |
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| 18:35:16 | Falco98 | hardeep: glanced at that patch yet? |
| 18:35:40 | hardeep | i don't see anything obvious that would explain the problem |
| 18:35:44 | hardeep | it needs to be debugged |
| 18:36:09 | Falco98 | k |
| 18:36:16 | Falco98 | i wish i could understand his code.. heh |
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| 18:45:12 | sharpe | grargle... |
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| 18:50:16 | dongs | what the shit |
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| 19:12:44 | Cassandra | I've never really understood how dB gives practical info, since it's a relative scale anyway. |
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| 19:13:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, but it's relative to the recording, whereas % is relative to the hardware. |
| 19:13:41 | Cassandra | Relative to the recording in what way? |
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| 19:16:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, basically, a -10 on iPod and iRiver and Archos *should* be the same, because it's 10dB lower than the level the file is recorded at, rather than X% from an arbitrary point (the maximum output of the device) |
| 19:16:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Assuming I understand it correctly, which I may not. |
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| 19:18:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | So if a file produce 90dB at line level, and you set the volume to -20, I guess you'd get 70 (before you take into account headphones/speakers of course) |
| 19:18:42 | Cassandra | Right. |
| 19:19:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Whereas, if a file produces 90dB, and you set the volume to "80%" what do yo uget? |
| 19:19:35 | sharpe | i know i know! pick me! |
| 19:19:40 | Cassandra | Hmm. I think I have a lead on why iPod battery life sucks so badly. |
| 19:20:12 | Cassandra | As someone suggested earlier the iPod firmware does indeed seem to charge much faster than Rockbox. |
| 19:20:32 | Cassandra | Which suggests that something other than playback is drawing too much power. |
| 19:20:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: The problem is that if 100% is the maximum the player can output, it's different on each player. Some cap at +0, some at +6, some at +12. So 80% is different on each player, whereas -10dB is the same on all of 'em. |
| 19:21:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Horrible LCD driver badness? |
| 19:22:08 | webguest48 | Paul_The_Nerd: so why does the dB level max out at 0? why not have it go into the positives? (and what if 0 is alot less than the player's output?) |
| 19:22:32 | Cassandra | Maybe, except the draw from a non-lit LCD should be (a) negligable and (b) constant. |
| 19:22:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest48: Not all of them max at 0. What do yo umean "what if 0 is less than the player's output?" |
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| 19:23:20 | webguest48 | Paul_The_Nerd: well if 0 is the level a song was recorded at, couldn't that be only 80% of the player's max output? |
| 19:23:42 | linuxstb | Cassandra: I think lostlogic has mentioned that we need to tell the charging hardware to draw more current from the USB - Rockbox is currently drawing something like 100mA, but it should be 500mA. But I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.... |
| 19:23:44 | webguest48 | or is RB coded such that 0 dB tends to be 100%... |
| 19:24:25 | Cassandra | Paul: I like your theory with respect to dB, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work. Just set my Iriver and Ipod to -22dB and the H140 is much louder. |
| 19:24:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest48: The dB can go up to whatever the maximum from the hardware is. On the iPod nano for example, +6. Then you can use preamp by way of say, replaygain, to digitally increase the gain on a file, but 0 is the level at which "If the file does not clip within itself, the hardware will not clip" |
| 19:24:58 | webguest48 | ok |
| 19:24:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Betwixt my Nano and H120 they seem equally loud to me. |
| 19:25:21 | webguest48 | cool.. i'm off for now |
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| 19:25:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: My tests involved the same file, and loading of the same config. Any change you've got EQ/Crossfeed/RG altering results? |
| 19:25:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | chance, rather |
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| 19:26:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: I could of course half the theory wrong. My understanding of some things is quite limited. |
| 19:27:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | have |
| 19:27:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Man, I cannot type today |
| 19:28:06 | sharpe | Paul_The_Nerd: but at least your typos are actually words. |
| 19:28:11 | Cassandra | My H140 settings got reset. |
| 19:28:25 | Cassandra | They're much closer with ReplayGain and Crossfeed enabled. |
| 19:29:17 | Cassandra | As in the same audio settings on both. |
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| 19:30:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: That's because my typos are mental not physical in most cases. My hands type some words by habit, and unfortunately similar words get replaced. |
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| 19:31:09 | sharpe | i believe mine are just due to, me thinking about other things while typing. |
| 19:33:01 | sharpe | because my brain is so fantastical. |
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| 19:33:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | My brain just exists out of sync with the rest of my body. I also tend to speak two sentences simultaneously. If I can't pick which of two ways to say something, I just start one sentence, and finish the other, often splicing words from them together in the middle. |
| 19:33:47 | scrub | not sure I care |
| 19:34:17 | * | Cassandra pets the troll. Isn't he cute? |
| 19:34:41 | scrub | since when are trolls cute |
| 19:34:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://chihongtoys.bizland.com/chcat02/cat02er18/er189.jpg |
| 19:34:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Since then |
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| 19:35:27 | sharpe | heheh. |
| 19:35:35 | Cassandra | Oh, in Sweden they have loads of cute trolls for sale. |
| 19:35:39 | scrub | those trolls have huge dicks |
| 19:36:08 | scrub | not suprising, most trolls do |
| 19:36:13 | Cassandra | Ooh, the troll said a bad word. |
| 19:36:20 | scrub | shut up fag |
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| 19:37:17 | Cassandra | Such intellectual prowess, to demolish and belittle me with his superior command of English. |
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| 19:37:40 | scrub | I dont deserve this n00bish banter, I donated 12 cents to rockbox paypal |
| 19:37:59 | Cassandra | Life is so unfair sometimes, isn't it? |
| 19:38:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | We did kinda get the bottom of the troll bucket, didn't we? |
| 19:38:33 | Cassandra | This one is, I think, a little baby troll, probably with very little assets. |
| 19:38:40 | scrub | you got a point there paul, this anti-troll charade is quite degraded and pathetic |
| 19:38:58 | scrub | and common |
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| 19:39:35 | Cassandra | Yeah, we can't all be the kind of intellectual giants who can mock people with such bon mots as "Shut up, fag." Sheer comic genius, that. |
| 19:39:43 | scrub | Shut up, fag. |
| 19:40:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ooh, ooh, call me a fag too. |
| 19:40:42 | Cassandra | That word you keep using. I do not think it means what you think it means. |
| 19:40:51 | scrub | Shut up, fag. |
| 19:41:05 | scrub | thx |
| 19:41:17 | preglow | lord of the rofl is back, is he |
| 19:41:24 | sharpe | aye |
| 19:41:33 | scrub | rofl obsessive fags |
| 19:41:40 | preglow | scrub: that's prefag to you, sir |
| 19:41:45 | Cassandra | Our very own My Little Trolly. |
| 19:41:52 | scrub | i bet you downloaded all my music, googled me 30 times, and checked out my bs-inc.org |
| 19:41:54 | sharpe | we can market that. |
| 19:41:55 | scrub | rofl obsessive |
| 19:42:20 | Cassandra | Isn't he adorable? |
| 19:42:23 | sharpe | "My Little Troll" Now comes with free irc access! |
| 19:42:28 | preglow | no, no i didn't do that |
| 19:43:17 | scrub | http://dkcproject.ocremix.org/bsinc/ |
| 19:44:20 | preglow | i prefer to give my attention to the musicians that aren't twats |
| 19:44:31 | scrub | then you had better start doing that, n00b |
| 19:44:41 | preglow | can do |
| 19:45:26 | Cassandra | Is a n00b better or worse than a fag? Enquiring minds want to know. |
| 19:45:36 | preglow | Cassandra: i'm both |
| 19:45:46 | preglow | so it can't be good |
| 19:45:46 | scrub | Shut up, obsessive n00b fag. |
| 19:45:47 | Cassandra | Ooh, you must really suck. |
| 19:46:11 | goffa_ | what i don't understand... is how n00b's can program rockbox.. since n00b=newbie |
| 19:46:30 | preglow | sheer luck |
| 19:46:37 | XavierGr | who is musician here? |
| 19:46:37 | goffa_ | that must be it :) |
| 19:46:41 | XavierGr | what scrub? |
| 19:46:41 | XavierGr | LOL |
| 19:46:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Thousand monkeys, thousand typewriters, you know the drill. |
| 19:46:45 | Cassandra | Poor little sexually confused troll. Do you think one of the other trolls exposed himself to him when he was a baby or something? |
| 19:46:52 | scrub | Shut up, obsessive n00b fag. |
| 19:46:57 | XavierGr | you call cheap remixes compositions? |
| 19:47:01 | XavierGr | hahaha |
| 19:47:04 | scrub | I may be a troll, but at least I'm not a girl |
| 19:47:09 | Cassandra | goffa_, it's trollish. It doesn't have to make sense. |
| 19:47:15 | scrub | I dont call remixes compositions, I call them remixes |
| 19:47:21 | XavierGr | you made my day scrub! LOL |
| 19:47:23 | goffa_ | i hope he can find another fag-troll to hang out with ;) |
| 19:47:32 | scrub | glad to have another fan on board |
| 19:47:38 | goffa_ | might bighten his mood |
| 19:47:40 | scrub | I can send you some stuff thats not on that site if you want XavierGr |
| 19:47:44 | scrub | here, let me dcc |
| 19:47:53 | Cassandra | How very lucky for you. I wish I could be a big manly man like you. I guess I'll just have to resign myself to my natural inferiority. |
| 19:47:58 | XavierGr | no thanks I am not interested on remixes |
| 19:48:08 | scrub | glad you agree, chickie |
| 19:48:17 | scrub | make up your n00bie mind XavierGr |
| 19:48:36 | XavierGr | and people that are not smart enough to realise how shitheads they are. |
| 19:49:03 | Cassandra | Oh, he's probably just about smart enough for that. |
| 19:49:08 | scrub | my songs own yal |
| 19:49:09 | scrub | http://www.ocremix.org/songs/Zombies_Ate_My_Neighbors_Neighburgers_OC_ReMix.mp3 |
| 19:49:21 | XavierGr | scrub: I see you are (or maybe more) 22 years old. You must be a real loony |
| 19:49:21 | scrub | thats some impressive english there XavierGr |
| 19:49:27 | Cassandra | It's just that I think that this is the first time he's ever spoken to a woman he wasn't related to. |
| 19:49:35 | scrub | 22 was a joke at the time |
| 19:49:39 | scrub | I'm 32 |
| 19:50:00 | scrub | yea that must be it |
| 19:50:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's close to the power of two I was guessing. |
| 19:50:23 | XavierGr | my my, I thought trolls were <=10 years old |
| 19:50:32 | scrub | thought again, n00b |
| 19:50:59 | goffa_ | some trolls live to their hundreds in some books i've read |
| 19:51:17 | scrub | I own a house near college, you can google it up. prefag already did. Live with 2 girls, one whom I used to date, but dumped |
| 19:51:24 | sharpe | scrub: it would be 'think again.' 'thought again' is past tense. |
| 19:51:25 | scrub | Mostly I cant stand women, just the sex part is fine |
| 19:51:32 | XavierGr | hahah |
| 19:51:38 | goffa_ | sounds like 3's company mr tripper |
| 19:51:40 | XavierGr | scrub you know what I don't care what you do |
| 19:51:41 | scrub | if not for sex and food prepairation, women are complete social voids |
| 19:51:55 | XavierGr | LOL |
| 19:51:57 | scrub | everyone has been talking about me for the last half an hour |
| 19:52:02 | XavierGr | this guy is sure funny |
| 19:52:03 | scrub | ofcourse they care about what I do |
| 19:52:17 | XavierGr | yeah you are the clown of the channel you knwo |
| 19:52:18 | scrub | all this free attention, I must perform |
| 19:52:24 | Cassandra | We know it makes you feel good. The problem is we just can't resist. You're so cute. |
| 19:52:26 | scrub | and you're a rnd |
| 19:52:37 | XavierGr | don't forget to put on you red nose |
| 19:52:41 | XavierGr | ^your |
| 19:52:43 | scrub | oh shit, |
| 19:52:48 | scrub | red nose |
| 19:52:51 | scrub | lmfao |
| 19:53:00 | scrub | and I"m the one they're trying to ban |
| 19:53:02 | scrub | thats justice |
| 19:53:30 | scrub | so yea, as I was saying |
| 19:53:34 | Mikachu | scrub: did you just get fired or something? |
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| 19:53:44 | XavierGr | we don't acare what you were saying |
| 19:53:48 | scrub | no, if you piad attention, you'd see its the weekend |
| 19:53:57 | scrub | speak for yourself XavierGr fag. |
| 19:54:00 | scrub | everyone else cares |
| 19:54:17 | XavierGr | you think so? |
| 19:54:20 | scrub | yep |
| 19:54:30 | XavierGr | I don't |
| 19:54:33 | scrub | they spent 2.5 hours yesterday looking me up online |
| 19:54:35 | Cassandra | Actually we don't. It's just marginally more amusing watching you make a tit of yourself than, say, reading LiveJournal. |
| 19:54:37 | scrub | finding out as much info as possible |
| 19:54:46 | scrub | lmfao livejournal fags |
| 19:54:55 | scrub | what would you women do without livejournal? |
| 19:54:55 | XavierGr | I've already said that you are a clown on this channel |
| 19:55:00 | scrub | you probably wouldnt even have computers |
| 19:55:10 | * | Mikachu does the kirby dance <('')> <("<) (>"<) (>")> <('')> |
| 19:55:14 | XavierGr | stupid and annoying things can get the attention of people for some time |
| 19:55:25 | goffa_ | yeah.. we sure are lucky... when you go to the circus you have to pay money to see the freaks |
| 19:55:39 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 19:55:43 | scrub | women do 3 things online -> blogs no one reads, flirt with ugly fat 14 year olds for attention, and amass power undeserved by flirting with ugly fat 14 year old ops |
| 19:55:45 | XavierGr | nice |
| 19:56:06 | scrub | thx XavierGr |
| 19:56:08 | scrub | thought you'd like that |
| 19:56:17 | scrub | I see you agree with me. Well its good to know someone does |
| 19:56:30 | goffa_ | scrub... you are calling yourself 14? |
| 19:56:31 | XavierGr | talk for yourself |
| 19:56:37 | goffa_ | cassandra is talking to you |
| 19:56:39 | Cassandra | scrub: How true. Ugly fat 14 year olds are exactly what I'm into. Unfortunately you aren't mature enough to qualify. |
| 19:56:45 | scrub | goffa_, no one is flirting with me idiot, rtfm->flirt |
| 19:56:54 | Cassandra | Or pretty enough. |
| 19:57:01 | scrub | are you kidding? |
| 19:57:02 | goffa_ | scrub: where's the manual on flirting? |
| 19:57:05 | scrub | check out my pictures |
| 19:57:07 | scrub | I'm a man god |
| 19:57:14 | goffa_ | there you go flirting again |
| 19:57:21 | scrub | I'm flirting, no one else is |
| 19:57:24 | scrub | rtfm->flirting |
| 19:57:30 | scrub | infact |
| 19:57:32 | scrub | rtfm->life |
| 19:57:35 | Cassandra | I'm sure your palm loves you a great deal. |
| 19:57:36 | scrub | infact |
| 19:57:38 | scrub | shut up fag |
| 19:57:45 | scrub | hey, thats new and creative |
| 19:57:53 | scrub | thats the other thing women do |
| 19:57:56 | goffa_ | yeah..you put me in my place there |
| 19:58:01 | scrub | they amass a treasury of common insults and phrases |
| 19:58:02 | XavierGr | scrub: why not stop chatting here and make more of those cheap remixes you are so obsessed about? |
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| 19:58:24 | Cassandra | But who would I play with if he did that? |
| 19:58:30 | scrub | pretty much any discussion with women involves them spouting precomposed sentences,comments, and opinions other people made |
| 19:58:37 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 19:58:38 | scrub | its quite hard for women to come up with this stuff themselves |
| 19:58:42 | scrub | if they did, they would be men |
| 19:58:44 | Ribs | lol |
| 19:58:57 | goffa_ | scrub, kind of like what you are posting? |
| 19:59:10 | scrub | yea, cause someone like me comes around every day right? |
| 19:59:12 | XavierGr | we don't care about your opinion about women, get over it |
| 19:59:17 | scrub | yes you do |
| 19:59:23 | scrub | look, goffa_ is discussing it with me |
| 19:59:25 | scrub | so is Cassandra |
| 19:59:31 | scrub | ever get tired of being wrong all the time XavierGr? |
| 19:59:50 | goffa_ | its fun watching you dig a hole |
| 19:59:53 | XavierGr | ah so you made your point you are so pathetic that you just need a little attention. |
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| 20:00:03 | scrub | nah, just woke up, eating breakfast |
| 20:00:07 | scrub | you're the one talking to me |
| 20:00:08 | scrub | now thats pathetic |
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| 20:00:42 | XavierGr | if you think that is pathetic then shut up and get over it. |
| 20:00:47 | scrub | hahahhahahahah |
| 20:00:51 | scrub | HAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAA |
| 20:00:54 | scrub | HAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHHAA |
| 20:01:07 | Cassandra | Sorry, sometimes I just enjoy the lovely squishy noises fish make when you shoot them in a barrel. |
| 20:01:19 | scrub | tell you what, don't let XavierGr talk anymore. makes the rest of you look ridiculous |
| 20:01:31 | scrub | rubs off on the impression of the whole chan |
| 20:01:58 | goffa_ | scrub you made a typo... instead of XavierGr you should have written scrub |
| 20:02:12 | scrub | holy shit, we have another XavierGr in here |
| 20:02:16 | XavierGr | Bah this is getting boring.... |
| 20:02:25 | scrub | what will they say next |
| 20:02:41 | scrub | goffa_: You're !!! omg i hate u! your ugly and i hate you!! |
| 20:02:42 | scrub | and then |
| 20:03:19 | scrub | XavierGr: omg I dont care this is boring. omg scrub ur a clown LoOollolOOollL |
| 20:03:28 | goffa_ | scrub... have you tried aol? there are many people just like you than you can hang out with |
| 20:03:36 | scrub | its like talking to an aol text generator |
| 20:03:39 | goffa_ | than = that |
| 20:03:51 | scrub | wow, jinx |
| 20:03:57 | scrub | did I not just guess goffa_ was an aol fag? |
| 20:04:02 | scrub | man that was awesome |
| 20:04:12 | goffa_ | scrub: not on aol.. was suggesting it to you |
| 20:04:15 | scrub | I can see through fags like a glass gay bar |
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| 20:04:29 | goffa_ | aparently you have some sort of literacy problem |
| 20:04:44 | scrub | good one, fag |
| 20:04:47 | goffa_ | and seem awfully interested in fags |
| 20:04:48 | scrub | your insults are improving |
| 20:04:53 | scrub | you're ready to hit the playground |
| 20:05:16 | XavierGr | goffa: he is obsessed with fags and HIS crap music. I see the relation between those 2. |
| 20:05:29 | scrub | I havent made music for 3 years |
| 20:05:30 | XavierGr | goffa: ok let's ignore the troll |
| 20:05:35 | scrub | rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooofl |
| 20:05:38 | scrub | you can try |
| 20:05:40 | XavierGr | don't feed him anymore |
| 20:05:48 | scrub | rofl, after half an hour of feeding |
| 20:05:52 | scrub | I'm already full |
| 20:05:52 | goffa_ | but i was having fun.. but you are right |
| 20:06:08 | goffa_ | arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics ... |
| 20:06:24 | Mikachu | did you just call yourself a retard? |
| 20:06:29 | goffa_ | yeah |
| 20:06:35 | goffa_ | for giving scrub the time of day |
| 20:06:56 | yobesoom | scrub as in #vqf scrub??! |
| 20:07:18 | scrub | haha whats vgf |
| 20:07:21 | scrub | fqf? |
| 20:07:23 | scrub | vqf? |
| 20:07:24 | yobesoom | okay nevermind |
| 20:07:26 | goffa_ | guess not |
| 20:07:27 | scrub | rofl n00bs |
| 20:07:30 | goffa_ | that scrub was cool |
| 20:07:41 | scrub | wait, are you insinuating I'm not cool? |
| 20:07:50 | goffa_ | no.. i'm blatantly telling you that |
| 20:07:59 | scrub | rofl, lead the lamb to the slaughter right there |
| 20:08:55 | Mode | "#RockBox +o Paul_The_Nerd " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
| 20:09:04 | Mode | "#RockBox +b *!*i=livir@*.ph.ph.cox.net " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
| 20:09:14 | Kick | (#Rockbox scrub :Bagder) by Bagder!n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder |
| 20:09:25 | Mikachu | try without the i= part too |
| 20:09:33 | Bagder | yeah |
| 20:09:35 | Mikachu | hi prot looking at the log file |
| 20:09:41 | XavierGr | Bagder we need more ops here |
| 20:09:50 | XavierGr | this guy is sure getting annoying |
| 20:09:52 | Mode | "#RockBox +o XavierGr " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
| 20:09:59 | Cassandra | I really should stop playing with him. It's only encouraging him to come back. |
| 20:10:02 | Mode | "#RockBox +o Mikachu " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
| 20:10:11 | Mikachu | only linusn and someone called edi have level 30 it seems |
| 20:10:11 | XavierGr | ah thanks! :) |
| 20:10:12 | Mode | "#RockBox +o Cassandra " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
| 20:10:12 | goffa_ | i think he thinks he won |
| 20:10:15 | | Join scrub [0] (i=scrub@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 20:10:23 | scrub | Rofl, learn to ban, idiots. |
| 20:10:24 | Mikachu | i am guessing he doesn't |
| 20:10:24 | scrub | Rofl, learn to ban, idiots. |
| 20:10:26 | Mode | "#RockBox +b *!*@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
| 20:10:26 | Kick | (#Rockbox scrub :Bagder) by Bagder!n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder |
| 20:10:40 | Mode | "#RockBox +b %*!*@*.ph.ph.cox.net " by Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 20:10:40 | Mode | "#RockBox -b *!*i=livir@*.ph.ph.cox.net " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
| 20:11:12 | Cassandra | I think his IP is static. |
| 20:11:21 | Cassandra | It's probably safe to ban just his host. |
| 20:11:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Is he really Protricity, or just claiming to be so? |
| 20:11:32 | Bagder | oh well, let's adapt if he comes back |
| 20:11:34 | Mikachu | he is |
| 20:11:35 | XavierGr | who knows |
| 20:11:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah well, not surprising. I never got along with ASU students. |
| 20:11:50 | Mikachu | i just put a +q on the host, so you can join but not talk |
| 20:12:38 | Mikachu | and his ip isn't static, he was klined about 3 times yesterday i think |
| 20:12:52 | Cassandra | Fair enough. |
| 20:15:13 | sharpe | anyway... |
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| 20:18:30 | sharpe | how's everyone? :) |
| 20:18:45 | goffa_ | lol.. good you? |
| 20:19:42 | sharpe | about the same as always, bored, slightly depressed, et cetera. after i'm finished with this work i may try to think of more ideas for the emulator before i try the video modes... |
| 20:20:12 | goffa_ | c64 was it? |
| 20:20:15 | sharpe | aye |
| 20:22:02 | goffa_ | just got my first bill from lala.com... that site is going to make me broke |
| 20:22:13 | | Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 20:23:03 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 20:24:20 | | Quit damaki_ (Remote closed the connection) |
| 20:25:25 | goffa_ | the guy running it is going to be very rich |
| 20:26:59 | sharpe | "breaking new, you don't have to tie your shoes anymore!" wow... |
| 20:27:21 | goffa_ | i haven't been tying my shoes for about 5 years now |
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| 20:27:52 | sharpe | i tie my shoes every... month or so. the laces eventually come untied, so i've to fix that. |
| 20:27:54 | goffa_ | started with oakley slip ons.. they changed the size... now i buy merrels :) |
| 20:28:25 | mikearthur | does anyone have the link to how to solder a wire and make the iRiver H140 charge from a USB cable? |
| 20:28:46 | goffa_ | was thinking there was an article on misticriver on how to do that |
| 20:28:50 | goffa_ | let me see if i can find it |
| 20:28:57 | mikearthur | yeh, it was on misticriver |
| 20:29:00 | mikearthur | can't find it though |
| 20:29:00 | * | Cassandra suspects we may need a "How do I get Rockbox on xxx?" sticky in the fora. |
| 20:29:20 | Cassandra | everyone wants Rockbox running on their toaster these days, it seems. |
| 20:29:22 | goffa_ | whoa mike |
| 20:29:27 | goffa_ | http://www.boxwave.com/products/minisync/minisync-retractable-cable-iriver-h140_355.htm |
| 20:29:31 | goffa_ | toh buird youc omt |
| 20:29:36 | goffa_ | gah |
| 20:29:38 | mikearthur | lol |
| 20:29:39 | goffa_ | not build your own |
| 20:29:42 | goffa_ | that was supposed to be |
| 20:29:44 | mikearthur | nash man |
| 20:29:55 | mikearthur | there was a way to actually solder a wire inside the iRiver |
| 20:30:03 | goffa_ | yeah |
| 20:30:07 | goffa_ | i saw that to |
| 20:30:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: Yeah, there's a NewPort wiki page, but no NewPort gen-discussion post. |
| 20:30:21 | goffa_ | this is a little less scary albeit more expensive |
| 20:30:28 | | Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 20:30:36 | mikearthur | hehe, aye |
| 20:31:07 | Cassandra | Paul_The_Nerd, possibly all that's needed is a link to the wiki. |
| 20:31:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cassandra: That's what I'd say. A sticky with the link, and be done with it. |
| 20:31:29 | Cassandra | Although I seem to remember that I put the "how to get a feature in Rockbox" thing on both. |
| 20:32:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 20:32:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I put a "How to report bugs" one up, so a "How to get a new port started" rounds it out nicely |
| 20:32:43 | goffa_ | this site i spretty sweet... versa charger looks cool too |
| 20:33:08 | Cassandra | Yeah. Just gotta make sure we don't get proliferating sticky disease. |
| 20:33:50 | double7 | we need a zen port |
| 20:34:16 | sharpe | my friend wants a zen port :) |
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| 20:34:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | double7: Well, the Zen Vision M has one of those processors we don't have a compiler for, I believe. Other than that, here's what you need to know to get started: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 20:35:40 | * | Cassandra doesn't need a Zen port. |
| 20:36:01 | Cassandra | But if people want to put in the time and effort, I'm all for them doing so. |
| 20:37:42 | | Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 20:37:42 | | Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 20:39:37 | raybert | howdy, anyone able to help with iaudio tool chain build? |
| 20:40:02 | * | stripwax just realises he was offline for the scrub comedy channel |
| 20:40:05 | goffa_ | heh... boxwave just cost me as much as lala |
| 20:40:14 | stripwax | Wow, that's some fun conversation back htere |
| 20:40:26 | goffa_ | stripwax: good thing for logs :) |
| 20:40:45 | stripwax | :-D |
| 20:41:35 | goffa_ | my only regret was that he didn't understand my three's company remark about his two "hot" female roomates |
| 20:44:15 | * | qwm has a soup in the oven |
| 20:45:15 | sharpe | i like three's company. was a good show... used to watch it on nick at nite when it was still on |
| 20:45:19 | sharpe | :) |
| 20:45:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | raybert: What problem are you encountering? |
| 20:45:58 | goffa_ | yeah... i used to watch it when i was really young when it was originally on |
| 20:46:16 | goffa_ | before i understood the whole jack tripper in the closet theme |
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| 20:46:45 | sharpe | heheh |
| 20:46:56 | goffa_ | but it was still funny |
| 20:47:01 | goffa_ | don knotts ruled |
| 20:47:06 | sharpe | lol |
| 20:48:12 | amiconn | oppala |
| 20:48:26 | * | amiconn is seeing six-fold |
| 20:48:33 | raybert | paul: binutils builds; gcc fails; I'm running fc4 gcc 4.02 flex-2.5.4a-36.fc4 |
| 20:48:33 | raybert | bison-2.0-6 |
| 20:48:34 | raybert | m4-1.4.3-1 |
| 20:48:34 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK raybert |
| 20:48:34 | raybert | gettext-0.14.3-1 |
| 20:49:16 | raybert | trying to build: binutils-2.16.1 & gcc-3.4.6 |
| 20:50:19 | goffa_ | ugh... i can't find my dvd sleve... i want to pedal down to the post office and return these |
| 20:50:30 | raybert | with m68k/bin in path, gcc/configure fails; w/o m68k/bin, gcc/make fails |
| 20:50:53 | goffa_ | mostly as a good excuse to get out in this nice weather |
| 20:51:07 | Cassandra | amiconn: Heh? |
| 20:51:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | raybert: I personally dunno. I'm not to knowledgeable in that area, though exactly *how* configure fails might be helpful. |
| 20:51:58 | preglow | Cassandra: drugs |
| 20:52:54 | raybert | paul: gcc/configure says: *** The command 'gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c' failed. |
| 20:53:08 | raybert | with errors such as: /tmp/cc4b6jOS.s:7: Error: Unknown operator −− statement `pushl %ebp' ignored |
| 20:53:23 | sharpe | assembly errors make me cringe |
| 20:53:38 | amiconn | Cassandra: six ops in the channel... |
| 20:54:15 | goffa_ | ah.. it was under my chair |
| 20:54:20 | goffa_ | bbl |
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| 20:57:33 | Cassandra | Ah, right. |
| 20:57:36 | Cassandra | Blame the troll. |
| 20:58:44 | preglow | ahah |
| 20:58:47 | preglow | so bagder got my nag |
| 20:58:57 | mikearthur | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=38142 |
| 20:59:00 | mikearthur | thats the one :D |
| 20:59:21 | superwut | wait, areyou the Mikachu from ocremix? |
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| 21:02:35 | Mikachu | superwut: there is a the Mikachu in ocremix? |
| 21:02:53 | superwut | nm, I thought you were him |
| 21:02:57 | cacophony_ | you go to ocremix? |
| 21:03:05 | superwut | yea |
| 21:03:11 | cacophony_ | cool |
| 21:03:18 | Mikachu | superwut: what sort of "the" are we talking? i was on the irc channel years ago |
| 21:03:35 | superwut | you are him then eh? |
| 21:03:38 | cacophony_ | wait |
| 21:03:41 | superwut | wow, everyone from oc is in here? |
| 21:03:49 | cacophony_ | Mikachu: you're the one from ocremix? |
| 21:03:50 | preglow | is this our troll speaking to himself or what? |
| 21:04:04 | Mikachu | might be |
| 21:04:06 | preglow | i'm willing to bet he's bored enough |
| 21:04:15 | cacophony_ | huh? |
| 21:04:18 | Mode | "#RockBox +o preglow " by Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 21:04:39 | cacophony_ | hey whats your favorite ocremix song |
| 21:04:58 | superwut | that doom boss song |
| 21:05:06 | cacophony_ | by daknit? |
| 21:05:21 | preglow | i'm willing to bet it is |
| 21:05:41 | amiconn | Op status for sale today? ;) |
| 21:05:45 | cacophony_ | sorry, is this conversation offtopic? |
| 21:05:50 | superwut | E1L8Boss |
| 21:06:09 | cacophony_ | wow yeah |
| 21:06:15 | cacophony_ | thas a kewl one |
| 21:06:16 | superwut | lets take it to pm caco |
| 21:06:20 | cacophony_ | k |
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| 21:06:45 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:06:45 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:06:46 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK pim |
| 21:06:46 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:06:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 21:06:46 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
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| 21:06:46 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
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| 21:06:48 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
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| 21:06:51 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:06:52 | superwut | wtf |
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| 21:06:52 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:06:54 | *** | Alert Mode level 9 |
| 21:06:54 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:06:57 | cacophony_ | stop that |
| 21:06:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 10 |
| 21:06:58 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
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| 21:07:00 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
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| 21:07:02 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
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| 21:07:04 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:07:06 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:07:08 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:07:10 | *** | Alert Mode level 14 |
| 21:07:10 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:07:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 15 |
| 21:07:12 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:07:13 | cacophony_ | ops? |
| 21:07:14 | *** | Alert Mode level 16 |
| 21:07:14 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
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| 21:07:16 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:07:18 | *** | Alert Mode level 18 |
| 21:07:18 | pim | HAHAH THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF FAGGOTS IN HERE. |
| 21:07:20 | pim | man |
| 21:07:22 | pim | all those ops |
| 21:07:24 | pim | and no eps |
| 21:07:28 | | Part pim |
| 21:07:37 | Mode | "#RockBox +b %*!*@*.phx.extremezone.com " by Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 21:07:47 | superwut | lol what the hell? |
| 21:08:01 | cacophony_ | hey tomas is ops here |
| 21:08:02 | goffa_ | aparently there are faggots in here |
| 21:08:04 | goffa_ | i guess |
| 21:08:04 | cacophony_ | hey t0mas |
| 21:08:16 | Mikachu | um, and apparently me |
| 21:08:22 | goffa_ | he he he |
| 21:08:35 | superwut | huhuhuhu |
| 21:09:20 | goffa_ | that was a nice bike ride |
| 21:09:56 | goffa_ | since faggots is the topic of the day.. i'm going to watch capote (came in the mail) |
| 21:09:56 | superwut | seriously, why are there all these ocremixers in here |
| 21:10:05 | cacophony_ | i dunno due |
| 21:10:10 | cacophony_ | cool tho |
| 21:10:18 | superwut | pikachu, t0mas, cacophony_ i guess, and they were talking about protricity earlier |
| 21:10:29 | superwut | Cassandra, aren't you from ocr also? |
| 21:10:31 | goffa_ | need to stop midi support i guess :) |
| 21:10:38 | cacophony_ | protricity?? he's an ahole |
| 21:10:44 | superwut | lol he is |
| 21:10:51 | cacophony_ | why talk about him |
| 21:10:54 | superwut | sorry I wanted to pm you caco |
| 21:10:58 | cacophony_ | well his music is good i guess |
| 21:10:59 | cacophony_ | k |
| 21:10:59 | superwut | but I cant pm on this server, its so gay |
| 21:11:04 | cacophony_ | really? |
| 21:11:07 | superwut | try it |
| 21:11:08 | Mode | "#RockBox +b *!*n=double7@tor/session/external/x-4ebbf3427b59a6e4 " by Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 21:11:10 | Kick | (#rockbox superwut :cacophony_ ) by Mikachu!i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com |
| 21:11:13 | cacophony_ | lmfao |
| 21:11:14 | Mode | "#RockBox +b *!*=cacophon@tor/session/external/x-0fee638c186ad8b4 " by Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 21:11:15 | Kick | (#rockbox cacophony_ :Mikachu) by Mikachu!i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com |
| 21:11:21 | preglow | thanks |
| 21:11:21 | stripwax | hur hur |
| 21:11:31 | Mikachu | stripwax: be careful, i almost kickbanned you there |
| 21:11:35 | preglow | god, this guy has to be bored |
| 21:11:41 | preglow | bored out of his skull |
| 21:11:45 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 18 minutes and 12 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:11:45 | * | stripwax goes back to hacking in silence.. |
| 21:11:51 | sharpe | stripwax! |
| 21:11:54 | stripwax | he man |
| 21:12:14 | stripwax | did you get the maze finished? |
| 21:12:27 | sharpe | never started :) |
| 21:12:31 | stripwax | ;-) |
| 21:12:43 | sharpe | just went on to the c64 emulator |
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| 21:12:59 | * | amiconn is undecided where to handle combined gain |
| 21:13:01 | stripwax | yeah, so I hear.. seriously, if I can play paradroid on my ihp120 I'll be in heaven |
| 21:13:11 | sharpe | heheh |
| 21:13:22 | amiconn | Would it be better in pcm_record.c, or uda1380.c |
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| 21:13:28 | preglow | god |
| 21:13:28 | amiconn | I tend to think the latter... |
| 21:13:30 | stripwax | or, you know, upgrade to an ipod video or something .. |
| 21:13:31 | preglow | he's at it again |
| 21:13:38 | double7 | that was unpleasant |
| 21:13:38 | double7 | so anyway |
| 21:13:39 | double7 | what were we talking about? |
| 21:13:43 | | Quit Rondom ("I'm leaving on a jetplane, don't know when I'll be back again...") |
| 21:14:01 | nostradamus4 | how mikachu is irrevocably an irrelevant faggot |
| 21:14:11 | nostradamus4 | there are a lot of points to be made on the subject |
| 21:14:17 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
| 21:14:17 | nostradamus4 | for instance, |
| 21:14:18 | XavierGr | oof |
| 21:14:18 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
| 21:14:19 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK double7 |
| 21:14:19 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
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| 21:14:22 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
| 21:14:23 | stripwax | ffs... |
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| 21:14:23 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
| 21:14:24 | nostradamus4 | 1. hostmask ban |
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| 21:14:25 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
| 21:14:27 | *** | Alert Mode level 29 |
| 21:14:27 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
| 21:14:28 | nostradamus4 | 2. learn to irc |
| 21:14:28 | dpassen1 | Shoudn't nostradamus4 be speaking in quatrains? |
| 21:14:29 | *** | Alert Mode level 30 |
| 21:14:29 | double7 | rofl @ fag ops fumbling with their n00bish irc ban scripts |
| 21:14:31 | Mode | "#RockBox +b double7!*@* " by XavierGr (n=XavierGr@ppp124-177.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:14:34 | nostradamus4 | 3. tor ban lmfao |
| 21:14:35 | Kick | (#rockbox double7 :XavierGr) by XavierGr!n=XavierGr@ppp124-177.adsl.forthnet.gr |
| 21:14:35 | *** | Alert Mode level 31 |
| 21:14:38 | nostradamus4 | Another Victory for BS Inc. |
| 21:14:47 | | Join anathema [0] (n=3efe2012@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:15:00 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:15:00 | * | goffa_ is wondering what they have succeeded in |
| 21:15:02 | nostradamus4 | [15:14] * XavierGr sets mode: +b double7!*@* lmfao another hostmask ban |
| 21:15:13 | nostradamus4 | learn to irc you incompetent boob |
| 21:15:31 | Mode | "#RockBox +b nostradamus4!*@* " by XavierGr (n=XavierGr@ppp124-177.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:15:35 | Kick | (#rockbox nostradamus4 :XavierGr) by XavierGr!n=XavierGr@ppp124-177.adsl.forthnet.gr |
| 21:15:44 | | Join wut22 [0] (n=double7@tor/session/external/x-04bbec528a1c4eca) |
| 21:15:48 | preglow | i'll teach it to him if you promise to go outdoors and learn to have some fun |
| 21:15:52 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:53 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:55 | *** | Alert Mode level 32 |
| 21:15:55 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK wut22 |
| 21:15:55 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:55 | preglow | i promise, this doesn't qualify |
| 21:15:55 | XavierGr | can we ban his ISP? |
| 21:15:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 33 |
| 21:15:56 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 34 |
| 21:15:58 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 35 |
| 21:15:58 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 36 |
| 21:15:58 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 37 |
| 21:15:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 38 |
| 21:15:58 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:15:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 39 |
| 21:15:58 | *** | Alert Mode level 40 |
| 21:15:58 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:16:00 | *** | Alert Mode level 41 |
| 21:16:00 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:16:02 | *** | Alert Mode level 42 |
| 21:16:02 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:16:04 | *** | Alert Mode level 43 |
| 21:16:04 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:16:06 | *** | Alert Mode level 44 |
| 21:16:06 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:16:07 | preglow | ok |
| 21:16:08 | *** | Alert Mode level 45 |
| 21:16:08 | wut22 | whollotta n00bs in here. |
| 21:16:10 | | Nick wut22 is now known as `ut23423 (n=double7@tor/session/external/x-04bbec528a1c4eca) |
| 21:16:10 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK `ut23423 |
| 21:16:10 | *** | Alert Mode level 46 |
| 21:16:17 | stripwax | wut22 - no offence, but if you don't have anything better to do, just leave? |
| 21:16:26 | preglow | ok, ok, i've got a nice dev channel regged |
| 21:16:30 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:30 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 47 |
| 21:16:30 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 48 |
| 21:16:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 49 |
| 21:16:30 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 50 |
| 21:16:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 51 |
| 21:16:30 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 52 |
| 21:16:30 | *** | Alert Mode level 53 |
| 21:16:30 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 54 |
| 21:16:32 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:33 | preglow | which i'll just +m |
| 21:16:34 | *** | Alert Mode level 55 |
| 21:16:34 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:38 | nobelium | spam bot |
| 21:16:38 | *** | Alert Mode level 56 |
| 21:16:38 | `ut23423 | shut up, stripfag |
| 21:16:49 | `ut23423 | giving up already, prefag? |
| 21:16:50 | stripwax | cute |
| 21:16:50 | Mode | "#RockBox +b `ut23423!*@* " by XavierGr (n=XavierGr@ppp124-177.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:16:51 | Kick | (#rockbox `ut23423 :XavierGr) by XavierGr!n=XavierGr@ppp124-177.adsl.forthnet.gr |
| 21:16:51 | *** | Alert Mode level 57 |
| 21:16:54 | sharpe | even i'm not that bored. |
| 21:17:09 | | Join lllllIllllain [0] (n=lahtrain@tor/session/external/x-c288331f09de8251) |
| 21:17:10 | | Join wut324ds [0] (n=double7@tor/session/external/x-04bbec528a1c4eca) |
| 21:17:11 | preglow | XavierGr: don't nickban, it'll just encourage him |
| 21:17:15 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:16 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:16 | *** | Alert Mode level 58 |
| 21:17:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK wut324ds |
| 21:17:16 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 59 |
| 21:17:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 60 |
| 21:17:17 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 61 |
| 21:17:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 62 |
| 21:17:17 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 63 |
| 21:17:17 | *** | Alert Mode level 64 |
| 21:17:17 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:18 | *** | Alert Mode level 65 |
| 21:17:18 | *** | Alert Mode level 66 |
| 21:17:18 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:20 | *** | Alert Mode level 67 |
| 21:17:20 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:21 | nobelium | he can just change identd |
| 21:17:22 | *** | Alert Mode level 68 |
| 21:17:22 | wut324ds | Holy shit you fags suck at ops |
| 21:17:24 | XavierGr | ok |
| 21:17:37 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK lllllIllllain |
| 21:17:37 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:38 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:38 | *** | Alert Mode level 69 |
| 21:17:38 | *** | Alert Mode level 70 |
| 21:17:38 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:39 | *** | Alert Mode level 71 |
| 21:17:39 | *** | Alert Mode level 72 |
| 21:17:39 | *** | Alert Mode level 73 |
| 21:17:39 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 74 |
| 21:17:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 75 |
| 21:17:41 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:42 | *** | Alert Mode level 76 |
| 21:17:42 | *** | Alert Mode level 77 |
| 21:17:42 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:44 | *** | Alert Mode level 78 |
| 21:17:44 | *** | Alert Mode level 79 |
| 21:17:44 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:45 | *** | Alert Mode level 80 |
| 21:17:45 | *** | Alert Mode level 81 |
| 21:17:45 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 82 |
| 21:17:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 83 |
| 21:17:46 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:46 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:46 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 84 |
| 21:17:46 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 85 |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 86 |
| 21:17:47 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 87 |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 88 |
| 21:17:47 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 89 |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 90 |
| 21:17:47 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 91 |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 92 |
| 21:17:47 | *** | Alert Mode level 93 |
| 21:17:47 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:48 | *** | Alert Mode level 94 |
| 21:17:48 | *** | Alert Mode level 95 |
| 21:17:48 | *** | Alert Mode level 96 |
| 21:17:48 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:49 | *** | Alert Mode level 97 |
| 21:17:49 | *** | Alert Mode level 98 |
| 21:17:49 | *** | Alert Mode level 99 |
| 21:17:49 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:49 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 100 |
| 21:17:49 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:50 | nobelium | i'd +m for now |
| 21:17:51 | stripwax | wut324ds - whereas you just suck at everything else, presumably |
| 21:17:51 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 101 |
| 21:17:51 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:51 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 102 |
| 21:17:51 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 103 |
| 21:17:51 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:53 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 104 |
| 21:17:53 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:53 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 105 |
| 21:17:53 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 106 |
| 21:17:53 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:55 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 107 |
| 21:17:55 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:55 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 108 |
| 21:17:55 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 109 |
| 21:17:55 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:57 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 110 |
| 21:17:57 | wut324ds | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:57 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 111 |
| 21:17:57 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 112 |
| 21:17:57 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:17:59 | | Nick wut324ds is now known as l1111 (n=double7@tor/session/external/x-04bbec528a1c4eca) |
| 21:17:59 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK l1111 |
| 21:17:59 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 113 |
| 21:17:59 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 114 |
| 21:17:59 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:18:01 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 115 |
| 21:18:01 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:18:03 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 116 |
| 21:18:03 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 117 |
| 21:18:03 | lllllIllllain | LEARN TO IRC RNDIGNIRRS ANOTHER VICTORY FOR BS INC |
| 21:18:05 | *** | Alert Mode *RED* level 118 |
| 21:18:05 |
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