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| 00:01:52 | markun | Bagder: Did LinusN ever compare the quality of 16-bit vs 18-bit on the X5? |
| 00:02:05 | Bagder | there is no 18bit on the x5 |
| 00:02:18 | Bagder | its a blatant lie |
| 00:02:36 | newbyx86 | Good news, bad news. |
| 00:02:47 | newbyx86 | Good news is that I can still restore my iPod. Bad news is that it still screws up. :P |
| 00:02:50 | markun | We can set the Gigabeat to 18bit, I might try it once just to check how it looks. |
| 00:03:25 | dpro | newbyx86: in what way ? |
| 00:03:34 | Bagder | markun: its a real performance hit to go 16 => 32 bit for the framebuffer stuff |
| 00:03:44 | markun | Yes, I know |
| 00:03:46 | Bagder | markun: but of course you may be able to deal with it ;-) |
| 00:03:50 | newbyx86 | dpro, were you here earlier when I said that it thinks it's connected to USB when it's not? |
| 00:04:06 | amiconn | markun: Better invent some kick-ass mono bitmap drawing before switching to 18bit. You will be bogging down the whole thing one step further... |
| 00:04:14 | newbyx86 | Well, Paul told me to try installing Rockbox on another computer. So I tried it on Windows and it still screws up. |
| 00:04:17 | dpro | newbyx86: nope I was out ... hmm sounds bad ... |
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| 00:04:46 | dpro | newbyx86: and I guess you've been through all the hard reset, test mode business etc... |
| 00:04:50 | newbyx86 | Yep. |
| 00:05:09 | newbyx86 | And what's weird is that restoring the old partition has the same bug. I'll eject it and it'll think it's connected via USB still. |
| 00:05:10 | * | amiconn needs some ideas how to speed up mono bitmaps in general |
| 00:05:33 | dpro | hmmm no idea maybe some pins are shorted ? |
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| 00:05:47 | newbyx86 | I doubt it. When I do a "Restore" it works just fine. |
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| 00:05:55 | amiconn | I have some ideas how to speed them up on coldfire, but these ideas involve rather complex, coldfire-centric handling of memory lines |
| 00:05:56 | newbyx86 | And if I boot into the original firmware and plug in a power cord and unplug it, it works fine. |
| 00:06:19 | dpro | newbyx86: ah ok ... so it's rockbox' fault |
| 00:06:28 | newbyx86 | No. It's not. When I boot into the original firmware, it'll say it's plugged in. |
| 00:06:33 | newbyx86 | But if I plug in a power cord and unplug it, it'll work just fine. |
| 00:06:42 | newbyx86 | RockBox just automatically restarts when it detects USB, so I can't fix it like that. :P |
| 00:06:51 | amiconn | If we wouldn't have that bitmap backdrop stuff, it would be considerably easier to speed things up... |
| 00:06:52 | dpro | that sounds completely odd |
| 00:07:03 | newbyx86 | It is pretty weird. Apparently it's been reported like 3 or 4 times tops, and it's elusive. |
| 00:07:17 | newbyx86 | According to a few other people. |
| 00:07:28 | Rori | what mAh is the battery on the Nano 4gb? |
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| 00:13:41 | dpro | newbyx86: what ipod model is that |
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| 00:15:56 | newbyx86 | It's an 60gb iPod photo. |
| 00:16:49 | Rori | is the Nano battery 330 mAh or 380 mAh? I get conflicting answers |
| 00:17:18 | dpro | newbyx86: photo not video ? (I wasn't aware there was a 60Gb photo) |
| 00:17:26 | Aghaster | is the screen resolution for 60gb iPod photo? 220x176? |
| 00:17:28 | newbyx86 | It's when Apple made the "iPod Photo" when it was the only colored iPod out. |
| 00:17:44 | Aghaster | yeah |
| 00:17:49 | newbyx86 | It was quickly phased out when they started allowing current iPods to be color and view photos. |
| 00:17:50 | Aghaster | the 4th gen, color |
| 00:17:52 | dpro | ic |
| 00:17:57 | Aghaster | just between 4th b&w and 5th gen |
| 00:18:02 | Aghaster | i have one |
| 00:18:22 | newbyx86 | Me too. Mine is being lame. |
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| 00:18:49 | newbyx86 | Brb, gonna do restore on it again. |
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| 00:22:40 | lamed | hey everybody! I'm having problems with running the sdl sim on vmware, if someone can quickly address this issue on: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4485.0 I'll be very glad, as I wouldn't have internet connection for a while within couple of hours... thanks. |
| 00:26:36 | Rori | hmm. seems the Nano uses a 330 mAh battery. You can upgrade it to 400 mAh. I wonder how much extra playback you would get on that |
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| 00:27:27 | XavierGr | lamed: I see a lot of people look at your thread right now! :P |
| 00:27:46 | XavierGr | "XavierGr, sharpe, amiconn, linuxstb, Road Runner and 2 Guests are viewing this topic." |
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| 00:31:27 | lamed | goodnight, hope for an answer until morning light |
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| 00:31:33 | Rori | question: when using Apple's fw on Nano when I hit pause and hold it shuts off. But if I hit it again it comes back on immediately. Whereas Rockbox seems to go through a full boot sequence each time. Is the Apple fw just going into standby each time? If so can Rockbox do that? Also I'd like to be able to set Rockbox to idle off less than 1 minute. Or go to stanby after 30 secs of no use. |
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| 00:34:40 | Rori | decided to post my questions on the forum since folks are idling off |
| 00:34:53 | sharpe | grrgle |
| 00:34:56 | sharpe | heh... |
| 00:35:07 | Bagder | Rori: the OF goes to sleep |
| 00:35:14 | Bagder | and Rockbox does a full shutdown |
| 00:35:45 | newbyx86 | Ahh, this is driving me bonkers. |
| 00:35:53 | newbyx86 | cc1: Invalid option `long-calls' |
| 00:36:10 | Bagder | newbyx86: sounds like a weird gcc version |
| 00:36:29 | Rori | in sleep mode it uses a trickle power obviously. I'd like to see that as a selectable option in RockBox. |
| 00:36:57 | Rori | and what happened to the Nano forum? it seems to have lost all it's posts |
| 00:37:08 | Bagder | uh, why would it charge differently in sleep mode? |
| 00:37:44 | Rori | charge differently? |
| 00:37:46 | Bagder | Rori: the nano forum was created yday |
| 00:37:52 | Bagder | it never had many posts |
| 00:38:00 | Rori | No no you missread. Nano just uses a standby trickle of power |
| 00:38:07 | Bagder | uh, "trickle" |
| 00:38:25 | newbyx86 | Hmm. Weird. My system didn't come with a version of gcc that has arm-elf-gcc. |
| 00:38:26 | Bagder | that's a tiny amount then |
| 00:38:32 | Rori | if it's in sleep mode it obviously is still drawing power |
| 00:38:42 | Bagder | newbyx86: no systems do, afaik |
| 00:39:00 | newbyx86 | Badger, ah. I need to compile gcc myself then. :p |
| 00:39:01 | Bagder | Rori: yes, which is one reason no one has bothered to do it for Rockbox |
| 00:39:07 | Rori | but if you leave it does it then turn off completely on original firmware? not tested myself |
| 00:39:09 | Bagder | also, Rockbox boot pretty fast |
| 00:39:12 | Bagder | boots |
| 00:39:31 | Bagder | as I hear, it does turn off after some time |
| 00:39:34 | newbyx86 | Badger: do I have to compile gcc with any special parameters to generate the arm-elf-gcc? |
| 00:39:46 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:39:53 | Rori | well it would still be nice as an 'option' in RB |
| 00:39:59 | Bagder | try the tools/rockboxdev.sh script! |
| 00:40:16 | Rori | just wishing and maybe someone will add it :) |
| 00:40:32 | Rori | I actually dislike the way the Nano switches off |
| 00:40:55 | newbyx86 | There is no tools/rockboxdev.sh script in this installation. Should I get the one off of cvs? |
| 00:41:18 | newbyx86 | (The source off of CVS) |
| 00:41:33 | Rori | but then I guess they was going for minimal buttons to push |
| 00:41:34 | Bagder | ah, I guess so |
| 00:41:43 | Bagder | newbyx86: you want the sources off CVS anyway ;-) |
| 00:42:08 | Rori | I'd prefer a quick click power off instead of a hold myself |
| 00:42:25 | newbyx86 | Badger, ok. :) |
| 00:43:11 | newbyx86 | co rockbox then co fonts, or does co rockbox-devel get both? |
| 00:43:13 | Rori | Like hit menu twice in quick succession and it powers off |
| 00:43:35 | newbyx86 | Ooh, apparently co rockbox comes with fonts. Or at least a fonts folder. |
| 00:43:37 | Bagder | newbyx86: I believe rockbox-devel gets the lot you want |
| 00:44:00 | Bagder | plain 'rockbox' lacks the simulator stuff, iirc |
| 00:44:08 | newbyx86 | Badger, mmk. I'll grab that one then. |
| 00:45:45 | newbyx86 | Badger, do I still need to checkout the fonts? I want to make a zip, and following the HowToCompile in the wiki says yes. |
| 00:45:51 | sharpe | i just check out rockbox, and simulator whenever i need the updated sim... |
| 00:46:30 | Bagder | newbyx86: actually, you don't need the fonts these days since a regular 'make zip' no longer includes the fonts |
| 00:46:34 | newbyx86 | Ahh, ok. |
| 00:46:55 | Bagder | the docs is a bit lagging on that behalf |
| 00:47:23 | sharpe | BSA claims 35% of software is pirated... |
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| 00:48:18 | sharpe | i highly doubt that's close to actual percentages... |
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| 00:49:24 | Mikachu | do they mean sold copies or used copies? |
| 00:50:01 | sharpe | just says, "35 % of the packaged software installed on PCs worldwide in 2005 was illegal..." |
| 00:50:19 | Mikachu | hm, packaged |
| 00:50:24 | Mikachu | that must mean sold copies then |
| 00:50:28 | sharpe | yep... |
| 00:50:47 | sharpe | maybe they include licensing violations for the software for like, one copy per computer... |
| 00:51:17 | XavierGr | 61% is reported on Greece. |
| 00:53:50 | sharpe | i find it somewhat hard to believe. |
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| 01:01:23 | newbyx86 | Awesome. That shell script worked flawlessely. Thanks, Badger. |
| 01:01:33 | Bagder | cool |
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| 01:05:18 | newbyx86 | Badger, what is the difference between the simulator build and the normal build? |
| 01:05:35 | newbyx86 | I'm gonna wager a guess that the simulator allows you to test it out on the host system, but how exactly? |
| 01:06:27 | Bagder | it builds rockbox natively and shows its UI using sdl |
| 01:06:35 | newbyx86 | Ahh. |
| 01:06:35 | newbyx86 | Neat. |
| 01:06:36 | Bagder | it simulates the low-level stuff |
| 01:06:45 | Mikachu | don't you mean high level? |
| 01:06:50 | Bagder | but buttons and LCD stuff etc is the same code |
| 01:06:56 | Mikachu | depends on what way you're looking perhaps |
| 01:07:46 | markun | Bagder: what do you think about this rule for forum posts? http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3974#entry149479 |
| 01:07:48 | newbyx86 | Let's see if this hack worked. Woot. |
| 01:07:50 | newbyx86 | It did. |
| 01:07:50 | newbyx86 | :D |
| 01:07:54 | newbyx86 | Now I don't have to worry about the USB freaking out on me. |
| 01:08:02 | newbyx86 | "oh noes usb is plugged in" |
| 01:10:38 | newbyx86 | Awesome. Works flawlessely after disabling automatic USB detection. |
| 01:10:42 | newbyx86 | Thanks to everyone who helped. :) |
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| 01:24:00 | shrizza | Anybody experiencing crashes when playing really long MP3 files? |
| 01:24:28 | shrizza | Long MP3s such as spoken word files. |
| 01:24:40 | shrizza | That go on for maybe 15-30 minutes. |
| 01:24:57 | shrizza | Well, longer than 15 minutes anyway. |
| 01:25:09 | shrizza | This is on an iPod. |
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| 01:28:40 | dpro | I sseem to recall sth like that being mentioned here a while ago ... but I definitely played longer files without crashes and got some ATA blabla crashes even with normal music files |
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| 01:40:49 | Aghaster | Does anybody speaks Esperanto in here, except Markun and Me? |
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| 01:41:43 | sharpe | i can say "Esperanto," if that's what you mean by speaking it. :) |
| 01:41:45 | shrizza | I don't know. The crashes with longer files are regular for me. |
| 01:42:12 | shrizza | To the point where I honestly don't remember ever making it to the end of any of my spoken word files with rockbox. |
| 01:43:01 | Aghaster | lol, sharpe |
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| 01:43:35 | Aghaster | I meant someone kiu povas paroli la lingvon kaj povas respondi tiu demando: cxu vi parolas esperanton? |
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| 01:43:42 | Aghaster | ;) |
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| 01:44:04 | Mikachu | i've had no problems listening to ~30 minutes pimsleur lessons, but they were ogg |
| 01:44:22 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:44:27 | Aghaster | meh, pimsleur doesn't teach you how to write, that's definitly not for me |
| 01:44:31 | Aghaster | i need to read |
| 01:44:56 | Aghaster | in order to understand |
| 01:44:56 | Mikachu | it's obviously a complement to other forms of stud |
| 01:44:57 | Mikachu | y |
| 01:45:07 | Aghaster | yeah |
| 01:45:12 | Aghaster | what language? |
| 01:45:17 | Mikachu | nihongo |
| 01:45:28 | Aghaster | k |
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| 01:45:48 | Aghaster | translating rockbox is loooooooooooooooooooooooong |
| 01:45:51 | Mikachu | (that's japanese in japanese) |
| 01:45:57 | Aghaster | yeah, i know |
| 01:46:19 | Mikachu | the ones who quietly read our conversation might not :) |
| 01:46:47 | Aghaster | hehe |
| 01:47:04 | Aghaster | is rockbox translated in japanese? |
| 01:47:18 | Mikachu | yeah, no idea how up-to-date it is though |
| 01:47:29 | Aghaster | k |
| 01:47:38 | Aghaster | how many strings are there to translate? |
| 01:47:53 | Aghaster | i didn't count them, as it would have discouraged me to start lol |
| 01:48:05 | Aghaster | but now that i'm half-way, i may know. |
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| 01:48:59 | Mikachu | no idea |
| 01:49:05 | Aghaster | k |
| 01:49:21 | newbyx86 | Hmm. Odd. The thing seems to skip a lot now. :( |
| 01:49:42 | Aghaster | newbyx86: make sure you use a theme without a peak |
| 01:49:50 | obo_ | Aghaster: I make it 608 |
| 01:49:59 | Aghaster | the peak makes my ipod skip a lot |
| 01:50:10 | Aghaster | obo: ok. 608, uh... |
| 01:50:14 | Aghaster | i must be around 300 now |
| 01:51:21 | newbyx86 | I'm using the default theme. |
| 01:51:41 | newbyx86 | I never messed around with the peak. |
| 01:51:42 | Aghaster | the default theme has a peak |
| 01:51:50 | Aghaster | well, give it a try? |
| 01:51:53 | newbyx86 | Hmm. |
| 01:51:55 | Aghaster | change to the dancing puffs lol |
| 01:51:58 | Aghaster | i like that one |
| 01:52:02 | newbyx86 | Does that have a peak? |
| 01:52:09 | Aghaster | dancing puffs nope |
| 01:52:10 | Aghaster | no peak |
| 01:52:12 | newbyx86 | Awesome. I'll give that a shot. |
| 01:52:33 | Aghaster | and you have funny dancing puffs that dance while you listen to your music with that theme... lol |
| 01:52:35 | newbyx86 | Sweet. Thanks, Aghaster. |
| 01:52:40 | Aghaster | :) |
| 01:52:49 | Aghaster | it stopped skipping? |
| 01:52:56 | obo_ | newbyx86: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 01:53:29 | newbyx86 | obo_, I've browsed through there. |
| 01:53:35 | newbyx86 | I didn't know that the peak would cause that. |
| 01:53:45 | Aghaster | what mp3 player are you using? |
| 01:53:48 | newbyx86 | iPod Photo 60gb |
| 01:53:52 | newbyx86 | (it's basically a 4th gen color) |
| 01:53:54 | Aghaster | the exact same i have |
| 01:53:56 | newbyx86 | Neat. |
| 01:53:56 | newbyx86 | :) |
| 01:54:17 | Aghaster | try the voltAmp theme |
| 01:54:19 | Aghaster | its quite nice |
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| 01:54:26 | newbyx86 | Where's that one at? |
| 01:54:29 | Aghaster | (its in colors, not like dancing puff) |
| 01:54:53 | Aghaster | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300#JoltAmp_24bit_WPS |
| 01:54:56 | Aghaster | joltAmp* |
| 01:55:13 | newbyx86 | Neat. |
| 01:56:42 | Aghaster | obo_: do you need how can i add additional characters to existing fonts? |
| 01:56:49 | Aghaster | not all fonts currently support esperanto |
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| 01:57:18 | Aghaster | and display a void space instead of the characters they cant display |
| 01:57:40 | newbyx86 | Codec failure wtf? :( |
| 01:57:56 | newbyx86 | Man my iPod is screwy. |
| 01:58:08 | obo_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CreateFonts |
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| 01:58:16 | obo_ | also check the very last link on that page |
| 01:58:30 | Aghaster | thanks |
| 01:58:35 | Aghaster | newby: reboot |
| 01:58:42 | newbyx86 | Yeah, I did. |
| 01:58:45 | Aghaster | k |
| 01:58:50 | obo_ | newbyx86: what kind of file? |
| 01:58:54 | newbyx86 | obo_, mp3. |
| 01:58:56 | Aghaster | i once had a codec failure, i rebooted and it never came back |
| 01:59:00 | Aghaster | and it was with mp3 |
| 01:59:18 | obo_ | does that same file have any issues playing on a pc? |
| 01:59:25 | newbyx86 | 0 issues. |
| 01:59:32 | obo_ | weird indeed |
| 01:59:36 | Aghaster | does it work after reboot? |
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| 02:00:15 | newbyx86 | Yep. |
| 02:00:24 | newbyx86 | What's weird now is that I can see like, every file in my iPod's root directory. |
| 02:00:52 | Aghaster | that's a setting, i dont remember where, but you can set what files you wanna show |
| 02:01:05 | newbyx86 | What's the A in the upper right corner mean? |
| 02:01:23 | Aghaster | not something that i know of |
| 02:01:25 | sharpe | are you sure it's an A? |
| 02:01:30 | newbyx86 | It's an A. |
| 02:01:36 | newbyx86 | On the theme with the dancing puff thins. |
| 02:01:37 | newbyx86 | things. |
| 02:01:49 | sharpe | i couldn't tell you. |
| 02:02:22 | Aghaster | you like the dancing puffs, don't you ? ;) |
| 02:02:29 | newbyx86 | It's the only theme I can use. Of course I do. :p |
| 02:03:14 | Aghaster | hehe |
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| 02:04:44 | Aghaster | are you a programmer, newbyx86? |
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| 02:06:28 | newbyx86 | I used to program. |
| 02:06:31 | newbyx86 | I haven't programmed in a while. |
| 02:06:34 | Aghaster | ok |
| 02:06:39 | newbyx86 | Anyway, any idea what I can do when the thing refuses to let me browse through my files? |
| 02:06:43 | newbyx86 | I'll push back, and it won't go up the directory. |
| 02:06:55 | Aghaster | its the left button |
| 02:07:02 | newbyx86 | I am pushing the left button. |
| 02:07:21 | Aghaster | meh. yeah, responsivity from what i've seen so far is kinda bad |
| 02:07:29 | Aghaster | i dont know if its the same on other mp3 players |
| 02:07:36 | newbyx86 | I know I tried it on an iPod mini and it works wonderfully. |
| 02:07:47 | sharpe | newbyx86: are you already at the root of the drive? |
| 02:07:50 | newbyx86 | sharpe, no. |
| 02:07:50 | Aghaster | so its only our ipod model? |
| 02:07:59 | newbyx86 | Aghaster, it would appear so. We got the short end of the stick. :( |
| 02:08:09 | obo | Do you have "first keypress enables backlight only" enabled? |
| 02:08:16 | newbyx86 | sharpe, I'm in a folder "Music/Artillery/Artillery - 1999 - B.A.C.K." |
| 02:08:16 | Aghaster | newbyx86: not if we get involved in the ipod port |
| 02:08:18 | newbyx86 | obo, let me check. |
| 02:08:25 | newbyx86 | Aghaster, maybe. Summer is coming up, I could code a lot. :) |
| 02:08:30 | Aghaster | hehehe |
| 02:08:40 | newbyx86 | obo, yes it's enabled. |
| 02:08:40 | Aghaster | I'm currently working on the Esperanto port XD |
| 02:08:52 | newbyx86 | I turned it off, and it still fails. |
| 02:08:56 | sharpe | Aghaster: you mean, translation? :P |
| 02:08:59 | Aghaster | hehe |
| 02:09:00 | Aghaster | yes |
| 02:09:12 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 02:09:15 | Aghaster | but have you watched the mailing list recently? |
| 02:09:20 | newbyx86 | What sucks is that this thing thinks it's plugged in to USB, and refuses to sleep. :P |
| 02:09:31 | Aghaster | it looks like blind programmers will help adding text-to-speech integration to rockbox |
| 02:09:49 | Aghaster | and the text-to-speech program program they were interested in supports esperanto |
| 02:09:56 | Aghaster | o.O which is kinda nice, hehe |
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| 02:10:43 | Aghaster | blind esperantists could use the ipod... haha |
| 02:11:04 | Aghaster | no joke but i've already seen a blind esperantist, so it exists XD |
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| 02:12:24 | Kowalski | shit. regged. |
| 02:12:30 | Aghaster | hum? |
| 02:12:34 | Kowalski | this is my usal nick |
| 02:12:38 | Kowalski | its regger here and efnet |
| 02:12:47 | Kowalski | ...not by me |
| 02:12:51 | Aghaster | ok |
| 02:13:08 | Kowalski | well |
| 02:13:10 | Kowalski | quick question |
| 02:13:24 | Kowalski | ipod video 5g-can i use rockbox as a suitable firmware replacement. |
| 02:13:30 | Kowalski | as in, si there full audio support yet? |
| 02:13:48 | Mikachu | yes |
| 02:13:55 | Aghaster | yeah |
| 02:13:58 | sharpe | yes. |
| 02:14:03 | Kowalski | cool. |
| 02:14:08 | Mikachu | am i not trustworthy? |
| 02:14:11 | Kowalski | and is it expandable as ipodlinux is? |
| 02:14:18 | Kowalski | rockbox, i mean |
| 02:14:29 | sharpe | if i understand what you mean, yes. |
| 02:14:30 | Aghaster | expandable, you mean with plugins? or open source? it has both |
| 02:14:35 | Kowalski | because ipl is pretty cool..... but audio doesnt seem to work for my 5g. |
| 02:14:43 | Kowalski | i mean, like games |
| 02:14:59 | Mikachu | doom is even included in the default install |
| 02:15:05 | sharpe | yes |
| 02:15:06 | Kowalski | sick! |
| 02:15:11 | Mikachu | (not the actual wads) |
| 02:15:15 | sharpe | along with packman. |
| 02:15:16 | Aghaster | mikachu: in my install doom missed the wad file |
| 02:15:20 | sharpe | er |
| 02:15:21 | Kowalski | thanks a lot guys :D |
| 02:15:21 | newbyx86 | Mine too. |
| 02:15:22 | newbyx86 | Hehe. |
| 02:15:23 | sharpe | pacman... |
| 02:15:26 | newbyx86 | I had to get it out of my prboom installation. :P |
| 02:15:34 | Kowalski | i usually get a link to google whenever i ask about shit on irc.... heh :P |
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| 02:15:57 | Kowalski | oh |
| 02:15:58 | Kowalski | last one |
| 02:16:05 | Kowalski | is it installable using windows |
| 02:16:10 | sharpe | well, if you need to find doom wads and pacman roms, that's what you'll have to use. |
| 02:16:12 | sharpe | yes! |
| 02:16:20 | Kowalski | awesome. |
| 02:16:25 | Mikachu | does the faq need updating? |
| 02:16:50 | Kowalski | i had to track down a ubuntu iso to get ipl 5g working before the official installer was updated. |
| 02:17:24 | sharpe | determined, aren't you? |
| 02:17:35 | Mikachu | you can install rockbox under windows |
| 02:17:47 | Kowalski | ah. i see that now |
| 02:17:53 | Kowalski | and does it have mp4 support yet? |
| 02:17:58 | sharpe | now it must me that is untrustworthy. |
| 02:18:00 | Kowalski | as in, uses the ipod's video decoder |
| 02:18:08 | sharpe | nope. |
| 02:18:16 | Kowalski | ah, damn |
| 02:18:24 | Kowalski | well... downloading |
| 02:18:28 | dpro | kowalski: so you have i ?pl working nicely on 5g |
| 02:18:29 | sharpe | no video supported by rockbox... except, only if the archoses still do that one format... but just ignore that. |
| 02:18:39 | Kowalski | dpro, exept for audio, yes |
| 02:18:46 | Kowalski | the audio menu doesnt even come up |
| 02:18:51 | Kowalski | just games, demos, and utilitis |
| 02:19:06 | newbyx86 | Where are the wads supposed to go for Doom? |
| 02:19:11 | Kowalski | oh, and fucking last one. |
| 02:19:12 | newbyx86 | It says /games/ but that ain't the case for me. :P |
| 02:19:22 | newbyx86 | Wait. Never mind. |
| 02:19:23 | newbyx86 | I'm retarded. |
| 02:19:24 | newbyx86 | Hold on. :p |
| 02:19:28 | Kowalski | -_- sorry fgor these, but does rockbox have sleep mode compatibility? |
| 02:19:31 | sharpe | heh... |
| 02:19:40 | Kowalski | as in, not take 20 minutes to boot up then 5 to shut off? |
| 02:19:47 | sharpe | not really... it's more of a deep sleep. |
| 02:19:49 | sharpe | er |
| 02:19:52 | sharpe | somewhat. |
| 02:20:00 | sharpe | no, rockbox is quick to boot/shutdown. |
| 02:20:18 | Kowalski | the windows installer doesnt have an ipod selectiojn |
| 02:20:44 | Kowalski | ill just do it the olde fashionede waye |
| 02:21:02 | sharpe | back in my day, we didn't have a new-fangled installer... |
| 02:21:35 | Kowalski | so, what players y'alls use with rockbox? |
| 02:21:49 | Mikachu | Kowalski: rockbox boots from complete shutdown in a few seconds |
| 02:21:58 | Kowalski | awesome |
| 02:22:11 | newbyx86 | hahaha, doom is awesome. |
| 02:22:17 | Kowalski | ipl takes atleast 2-3 minutes to load, then initialise all my plugins |
| 02:22:23 | sharpe | it's true! it's me now! it went off Mikachu to me! :( |
| 02:22:23 | Kowalski | which = bad |
| 02:22:41 | Mikachu | sharpe: eh? |
| 02:22:56 | newbyx86 | Now if only I could do iddqd on an iPod. :P |
| 02:23:03 | Aghaster | newbyx86: You said responsivity was good on the ipod mini? |
| 02:23:16 | sharpe | Mikachu: the untrustworthiness. |
| 02:23:23 | Mikachu | ah |
| 02:23:31 | Aghaster | but you experience bad responsivity on our model? |
| 02:24:00 | newbyx86 | Yes. |
| 02:24:06 | newbyx86 | Very well done on the iPod mini. |
| 02:24:08 | Kowalski | umm.... fuck |
| 02:24:10 | newbyx86 | On this one I've experienced bugs in the daily builds. |
| 02:24:14 | newbyx86 | I had to hack the source for it to work :P |
| 02:24:24 | Aghaster | uh? |
| 02:24:26 | Aghaster | i didnt have to do |
| 02:24:35 | newbyx86 | Mine thought it was always plugged in via USB. |
| 02:24:35 | newbyx86 | :/ |
| 02:24:38 | Aghaster | my build is dated from a week ago |
| 02:24:55 | sharpe | newbyx86: what do you mean? |
| 02:25:08 | newbyx86 | sharpe, whenever rockbox would boot, it would show me the USB picture |
| 02:25:10 | newbyx86 | and restart into disk mode |
| 02:25:13 | newbyx86 | or some form of disk mode, anyhow. |
| 02:25:18 | Aghaster | well, i think i'll file a bug/improvment for the 60gig color iPod responsivity |
| 02:25:27 | newbyx86 | ipod photo |
| 02:25:30 | newbyx86 | it's a 4th gen color :p |
| 02:25:30 | sharpe | was this with, or without the usb cable plugged in? |
| 02:25:35 | Aghaster | photo* |
| 02:25:36 | Aghaster | yeah |
| 02:25:40 | newbyx86 | Without. |
| 02:25:43 | Kowalski | "installign the bootloader is the trickiest part of the installation ... due to legal reasons ... need to get an origional firmware from your player's manufacturer homepage ... modify it to include the rockbox bootloader" |
| 02:25:48 | sharpe | ooh. fun, |
| 02:25:57 | Kowalski | how the hell do i do that, if i may ask? |
| 02:26:04 | Mikachu | Kowalski: continue reading the instructions |
| 02:26:09 | Aghaster | lol |
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| 02:26:22 | sharpe | extract it from the ipod update utility using ipodwizard. |
| 02:26:31 | newbyx86 | Mmm. Doom with an iPod is hard. :P |
| 02:26:32 | Mikachu | lol @ prot excess flood |
| 02:26:38 | Aghaster | hehe |
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| 02:27:13 | sharpe | i wonder if midkay has found the problem that i could now... |
| 02:27:20 | Kowalski | mikachu.... os just extract the files to my ipod's hdd.... then restart |
| 02:27:30 | Kowalski | will that do anything? |
| 02:27:34 | newbyx86 | Haha. What are you supposed to do for NIGHTMARE MODE. |
| 02:27:37 | newbyx86 | It asks you "y/n" |
| 02:27:38 | newbyx86 | :P |
| 02:27:44 | Mikachu | Kowalski: guy read the installation instructions |
| 02:27:48 | sharpe | Kowalski: not without the bootloader. |
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| 02:28:25 | Mikachu | cryothermal: please turn that message off |
| 02:28:43 | Kowalski | Mikachu, it doesnt tell me anywhere how to install the bootloader |
| 02:28:52 | Kowalski | unless its at the end or something |
| 02:28:55 | Mikachu | surely it must |
| 02:29:03 | Kowalski | nope |
| 02:29:05 | sharpe | Kowalski: what exactly, are you reading? |
| 02:29:11 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation#Step_1_Install_the_bootloader |
| 02:29:15 | Kowalski | all it says under installing hte bootloader is what i repeated above |
| 02:29:33 | Mikachu | that is perhaps what most people would call incorrect |
| 02:30:18 | Kowalski | the pdfis diff' |
| 02:30:23 | Kowalski | *pdf is diff* |
| 02:30:43 | Mikachu | okay, that page is what you want to read |
| 02:31:54 | midkay | sharpe, i haven't even touched the source! :D |
| 02:32:10 | sharpe | :) |
| 02:32:12 | sharpe | yay! |
| 02:33:30 | Aghaster | newbyx86: an ipod mini doesnt have a clickwheel, isnt it? |
| 02:34:15 | newbyx86 | It's got the same wheel as like, the current iPods. |
| 02:34:41 | Aghaster | ok |
| 02:35:04 | Aghaster | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5449 |
| 02:35:08 | Aghaster | bug reported |
| 02:35:22 | sharpe | hah, now i remember why i never compiled the bootloader. |
| 02:35:28 | Aghaster | lolll |
| 02:35:37 | newbyx86 | Hmm.... |
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| 02:38:22 | Aghaster | newbyx86: its time to get back to programming, hehe |
| 02:38:47 | Aghaster | I've rarely seen a project so active |
| 02:39:12 | newbyx86 | Yeah. |
| 02:39:14 | Aghaster | there are cvs commits everyday and several emails in the mailing list everyday |
| 02:39:20 | newbyx86 | I haven't programmed in so long. |
| 02:39:25 | newbyx86 | And when I stopped, I got in the bad habit of VB6 :X |
| 02:39:29 | newbyx86 | Coding some C/C++ will be nice. :) |
| 02:39:29 | Aghaster | uh |
| 02:39:32 | Aghaster | :) |
| 02:39:37 | Aghaster | yeah, getting back to the good habits |
| 02:39:38 | Aghaster | hehe |
| 02:39:44 | newbyx86 | Yeah. I got into Battle.net bot development. |
| 02:39:51 | Aghaster | true? |
| 02:39:53 | Aghaster | thats nice |
| 02:39:54 | newbyx86 | And since there was so much open-source VB crap and I didn't wanna dedicate my time to C bots. |
| 02:39:56 | newbyx86 | I figured "Eh, why not?" |
| 02:39:59 | newbyx86 | So I got hooked on VB. |
| 02:40:09 | Aghaster | i see |
| 02:40:11 | newbyx86 | And found myself rewriting lots of the code and eventually it dawned on me. |
| 02:40:12 | sharpe | i never liked vb |
| 02:40:14 | newbyx86 | "Why not jus twrite it in something like C?" |
| 02:40:14 | Aghaster | how old are you? |
| 02:40:16 | newbyx86 | So I stopped programming. |
| 02:40:16 | newbyx86 | 15. |
| 02:40:19 | Aghaster | k |
| 02:40:23 | Aghaster | i'm 17 |
| 02:40:24 | newbyx86 | Neat. |
| 02:40:45 | Aghaster | i write C++, and i'll have to learn the differences between C and C++ before programming in rockbox |
| 02:40:48 | newbyx86 | Hehehe. |
| 02:40:51 | Aghaster | :P |
| 02:40:55 | Aghaster | i wrote a C++ tutorial |
| 02:40:58 | Aghaster | www.planetcpp.info |
| 02:41:02 | newbyx86 | I like C. |
| 02:41:09 | Aghaster | yeah, i think i'll like it too |
| 02:41:15 | newbyx86 | Whenever I write C it's because I'm disassembling something and writing a key generator for a game. |
| 02:41:23 | Aghaster | lolll |
| 02:41:26 | Aghaster | :P |
| 02:41:32 | newbyx86 | http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com/ <−− I actually wasted my time and cracked all of those games. :P |
| 02:41:43 | newbyx86 | Well, at least everything after Nethergate. |
| 02:41:46 | newbyx86 | The Avernum / Geneforge series. |
| 02:42:05 | Aghaster | damn... you're better than me lol |
| 02:42:07 | newbyx86 | I made a key generator, and that was the extent of my knowledge in the last ~year. |
| 02:42:12 | Aghaster | at what age did you start to program6 |
| 02:42:14 | newbyx86 | 13. |
| 02:42:23 | Aghaster | you started earlier than me |
| 02:42:24 | Aghaster | eh |
| 02:42:25 | newbyx86 | Hehe. |
| 02:42:28 | Aghaster | don't stop it |
| 02:42:29 | Aghaster | :P |
| 02:42:32 | newbyx86 | I coded until I turned 15, then it clicked and I slacked off. |
| 02:42:41 | newbyx86 | Occasionally looking at assembly and reading what viruses did. |
| 02:42:42 | newbyx86 | And such. |
| 02:42:47 | Aghaster | yeah |
| 02:42:51 | Aghaster | do you run linux? |
| 02:42:53 | * | newbyx86 nods. |
| 02:42:55 | newbyx86 | Slackware Linux 10.1 |
| 02:42:55 | newbyx86 | :) |
| 02:42:59 | Aghaster | lolll |
| 02:43:03 | Aghaster | ok, i see |
| 02:43:06 | newbyx86 | I spoof, dj. |
| 02:43:06 | Aghaster | i'm using gentoo |
| 02:43:07 | dj-fu | -newbyx86- VERSION mIRC v6.69 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 02:43:17 | newbyx86 | Hmm, what's that set option to return true version. |
| 02:43:18 | Aghaster | eh?? |
| 02:43:25 | Aghaster | os[Linux 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 x86_64] distro[Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+ @ 2.40GHz] mem[Physical : 1001MB, 68.1% free] disk[Total : 314.98GB, 51.40% Free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]] sound[] |
| 02:43:31 | dj-fu | gentoo is wehre it's at. |
| 02:43:33 | newbyx86 | irc_hide_version |
| 02:43:36 | newbyx86 | go ahead |
| 02:43:37 | | Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 02:43:46 | newbyx86 | CTCP 'er up. |
| 02:43:49 | dj-fu | I believe you, newbyx86 - there is no 6.69 version of mIRC |
| 02:43:52 | newbyx86 | Hehe. |
| 02:43:55 | Aghaster | yeah |
| 02:43:56 | newbyx86 | -newbyx86- VERSION xchat 2.6.2 Linux 2.4.31 [i686/3.40GHz] |
| 02:43:57 | newbyx86 | -newbyx86- VERSION mIRC v6.69 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 02:44:08 | Aghaster | :P |
| 02:44:15 | dj-fu | os[Linux 2.6.16-ck11-fuzion i686] distro[Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz @ 800MHz] mem[Physical : 1011MB, 52.0% free] disk[Total : 70.05GB, 18.40% Free] video[ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700] sound[] |
| 02:44:20 | newbyx86 | I tried Gentoo. |
| 02:44:28 | newbyx86 | The graphical installer failed me and it was like, 1 in the morning. |
| 02:44:35 | dj-fu | gentoo is about manual install |
| 02:44:37 | newbyx86 | and I didn't care to start again with the networked installer since my router was being gay. |
| 02:44:41 | dj-fu | all of the installers usually fail |
| 02:44:43 | Aghaster | i never used the graphical installer of gentoo |
| 02:44:43 | newbyx86 | So I just stuck FreeBSD in and installed FreeBSD on my laptop. :P |
| 02:44:48 | sharpe | funally got bootloader builds to work. |
| 02:44:51 | sharpe | finally.. |
| 02:44:56 | Aghaster | lol |
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| 02:45:19 | newbyx86 | Well, if I don't dick around with the tag database, Rockbox works solid on my iPod. |
| 02:45:40 | Aghaster | i dont use the tag database |
| 02:45:48 | Aghaster | i like the directory based browsing |
| 02:45:48 | Aghaster | hehe |
| 02:45:49 | newbyx86 | I wanted to try it out, but if I resort back to file browsing, it freaks on me. |
| 02:45:52 | newbyx86 | And won't let me go up. |
| 02:46:13 | newbyx86 | But yeah, I hate tag databases. I don't know why. My tags normally aren't 100% correct so that could be it. |
| 02:46:20 | Aghaster | lol |
| 02:47:26 | Aghaster | there are only two things that i don't like in rockbox: bad responsivity on my model, and reduced (by much) battery life |
| 02:47:35 | newbyx86 | Haha. The battery life seems fine. |
| 02:47:38 | newbyx86 | I played Doom for 10 minutes and it was about the same. |
| 02:47:47 | newbyx86 | Responsitivity, if I click something it'll take a bit to go into it. |
| 02:47:50 | Aghaster | well, it dropped for about the third of what it was on apple firmware |
| 02:47:50 | newbyx86 | like it's spinning the drive up. |
| 02:47:55 | newbyx86 | And wow, that's a lot. |
| 02:48:00 | newbyx86 | Especially for something that's done nothing but extend life for me. :P |
| 02:48:03 | newbyx86 | How long is your anti-spin buffer? |
| 02:48:12 | Aghaster | dunno |
| 02:48:51 | newbyx86 | I really need to reinstall my OS. It's gotten so slow as of lately. I mean, it takes like 2 minutes to move 300mb across USB2. |
| 02:48:52 | newbyx86 | And I'm on SATA. |
| 02:49:00 | newbyx86 | SATA−−>USB2 should be a lot quicker than that. :p |
| 02:49:09 | Aghaster | running slackware? |
| 02:49:10 | newbyx86 | Yeah. |
| 02:49:22 | newbyx86 | I wonder if upgrading to the 2.6 series would do anything different. |
| 02:49:29 | Aghaster | where do i change anti-spin buffer? |
| 02:49:37 | Aghaster | you run 2.4.x? |
| 02:49:38 | newbyx86 | Yeah. |
| 02:49:40 | newbyx86 | 2.4.31 |
| 02:49:42 | Aghaster | why? |
| 02:49:45 | newbyx86 | It came default. |
| 02:49:49 | Aghaster | uh |
| 02:49:52 | Aghaster | not a good answer |
| 02:49:52 | Aghaster | lol |
| 02:49:54 | newbyx86 | =P |
| 02:50:05 | newbyx86 | I don't care enough to upgrade, really. Never had the issue of security threats or stability or features. |
| 02:50:10 | Aghaster | most distros today let you choose anyway |
| 02:50:30 | Aghaster | how do i change anti-spin buffer? |
| 02:50:42 | newbyx86 | General Settings |
| 02:50:43 | newbyx86 | Playback |
| 02:50:45 | newbyx86 | Anti-Spin Buffer |
| 02:50:50 | newbyx86 | Set it to 5 seconds if it isn't already. |
| 02:53:19 | Kowalski | fucking shit |
| 02:53:27 | Kowalski | the install for ipodlinux users is GAYYY |
| 02:53:47 | sharpe | Kowalski: we love you tooo |
| 02:53:56 | Kowalski | (make sure you move the firmware file to the ipod_fw folder, and rename it to bootpartition.bin first). |
| 02:53:56 | BHSPitMonkey | excuse me? |
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| 02:54:00 | Kowalski | where the hell is that? |
| 02:54:30 | BHSPitMonkey | you don't have to do jack squat if you already have iPL installed. just extract the rockbox zip to the fat32 root and you're done. |
| 02:54:33 | newbyx86 | Haha. |
| 02:54:38 | newbyx86 | Crushed. |
| 02:54:39 | sharpe | woo! i've MSDos 7.1 now. now, to let it sit on my harddrive. |
| 02:54:49 | * | Kowalski 's eye twitches |
| 02:55:05 | newbyx86 | iPL bootloader can detect rockbox |
| 02:55:05 | newbyx86 | :P |
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| 02:55:09 | sharpe | ah, the love. |
| 02:55:12 | Kowalski | c.2) [ALTERNATIVE METHOD FOR IPODLINUX USERS ONLY] |
| 02:55:12 | Kowalski | If you have already installed ipodlinux on your iPod, then c.1) above will not work for you - you will need to follow this paragraph. If you have not installed ipodlinux, you can ignore this step. |
| 02:55:13 | newbyx86 | Paul, I still had the problem in Windows. |
| 02:55:20 | Kowalski | that needs to be different. |
| 02:55:23 | newbyx86 | When I did the bootloader and software install in Windows. |
| 02:55:27 | BHSPitMonkey | Kowalski: which bootloader do you have? |
| 02:55:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | newbyx86: On the other computer? |
| 02:55:30 | newbyx86 | Yes. |
| 02:55:31 | Kowalski | uhh |
| 02:55:36 | Kowalski | the non-selecting one |
| 02:55:37 | newbyx86 | I just took linuxstb's advice and patched the code myself. :P |
| 02:55:50 | BHSPitMonkey | Kowalski: oh, then you should change that :) |
| 02:55:51 | Kowalski | i can put the selecting one on, though |
| 02:55:55 | Kowalski | k. |
| 02:56:12 | Kowalski | working on it. |
| 02:56:15 | BHSPitMonkey | if you install ipodloader2, then that's all you need to boot rockbox. |
| 02:56:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | newbyx86: Yeah, that will solve the problem for you. I'm still curious though as to what _causes_ it. =/ |
| 02:56:28 | newbyx86 | Yeah. |
| 02:56:31 | newbyx86 | I have no clue, to be honest. |
| 02:56:41 | newbyx86 | I tried it three or four times. |
| 02:56:43 | newbyx86 | No success whatsoever. |
| 02:56:48 | newbyx86 | Windows *and* Linux |
| 02:57:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Since it happens on two computers in two OSes, the only common elements any more are the iPod itself, and the cable. We can _probably_ rule out the cable, so it's something about the hardware in the iPod, or the Apple Firmware Bootloader |
| 02:58:09 | newbyx86 | I did the restore thing, and iirc, it took a while to realize it wasn't connected. |
| 02:58:12 | newbyx86 | It would sit and then finally go away. |
| 02:58:31 | newbyx86 | But when I dd'd over the old firmware after installing RockBox and getting the same error, it never went away. |
| 02:58:49 | newbyx86 | (by a while in the original scenario, I mean like, 5-10 seconds) |
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| 03:00:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | newbyx86: It's a _really_ strange bug. Could I ask one more favour of you? Could you dd if=/dev/sdf1 of=blah.bin then immediately dd if=blah.bin /dev/sdf1, without disconnecting it (after a restore, assuming you haven't already reloaded music. It's okay if you don't feel like it). |
| 03:01:13 | newbyx86 | Hah. I've been rockin' the RockBox at the moment. |
| 03:01:28 | newbyx86 | But if it'll help the project, I'm up for it. |
| 03:01:28 | newbyx86 | Brb. |
| 03:03:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm just curious because if you never disconnect the device, the firmware partition _should_ be exactly identical, and there should be no signs of change. Actually, after doing that, I'd be really interested in dd if=/def/sdf1 of=blah2.bin, and something to maybe do a binary comparison between the two files (that is, blah2.bin should be a pure retail OS that is having the plugged in issue) |
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| 03:04:00 | Kowalski | well |
| 03:04:05 | Kowalski | !folder on boot |
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| 03:04:17 | Kowalski | fuck ipodlinux, im starting from scratch. |
| 03:04:32 | sharpe | :) |
| 03:04:37 | Kowalski | after a restore operation >_< |
| 03:05:08 | sharpe | i wonder if i should backup things on this one drive to dvds... |
| 03:05:12 | Kowalski | 28iish gigs over usb = painfullness |
| 03:05:22 | newbyx86 | Alright, restoring now. |
| 03:05:25 | newbyx86 | (wow, Windows is so freaking slow ;() |
| 03:05:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 03:06:32 | hardeep | amiconn: around? |
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| 03:08:29 | newbyx86 | You want me to compare /dev/sdf1 and blah2.bin? |
| 03:08:30 | newbyx86 | I can do that. |
| 03:08:59 | Kowalski | well, uh |
| 03:09:06 | Kowalski | ipod updater wont recognise my ipod |
| 03:09:10 | Kowalski | real nice |
| 03:09:18 | newbyx86 | The one from Apple? |
| 03:09:25 | newbyx86 | That reminds me of my old iPod. It junked out. |
| 03:09:25 | Kowalski | yeah. |
| 03:09:32 | newbyx86 | It can't even be read as a disk :/ |
| 03:09:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | newbyx86: Only if it's doing the "Thinking it's connected when it's not" thing. I want a comparison between that and the originally extracted blah.bin |
| 03:10:02 | newbyx86 | Alright. |
| 03:10:09 | newbyx86 | Well, on a fresh restore, it takes a few seconds for it to realize it's been unplugged. |
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| 03:10:23 | newbyx86 | I eject it, and unplug it, and it says it's plugged in for a few seconds, then it goes away. |
| 03:10:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Weird. Takes about 1-2 seconds on my Nano for it to disappear, but I don't know if that's a comparable situation, y'know? |
| 03:10:55 | newbyx86 | Heh. |
| 03:11:15 | newbyx86 | Well, I dd'd it. |
| 03:11:18 | newbyx86 | Now it's stuck in plugged in mode. |
| 03:11:25 | newbyx86 | Didn't even write TO it. |
| 03:11:26 | Kowalski | *sigh* |
| 03:11:28 | newbyx86 | Just read the current one from it. |
| 03:11:31 | Kowalski | this fucking sukcs |
| 03:11:35 | Kowalski | im gonn restart |
| 03:11:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Now _that_ is strange. |
| 03:11:42 | Kowalski | hopefully itll make the fucking updater work |
| 03:11:55 | newbyx86 | I literally typed "sudo dd if=/dev/sdf1 of=bootpartition.bin" |
| 03:11:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Kowalski: Sometimes reformatting it entirely using a normal format utility will allow the updater to see it |
| 03:11:59 | newbyx86 | then "eject /dev/sdf" |
| 03:12:20 | newbyx86 | Ok. I ejected it, and it went away. |
| 03:12:22 | newbyx86 | Hmm. |
| 03:12:26 | newbyx86 | Took longer though. |
| 03:12:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | newbyx86: So somehow _reading_ from that partition can cause strange things to happen. I have to wonder, since the USB handling is done in software if it's something wrong with the USB driver? |
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| 03:12:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Like, the USB driver on the iPod rather |
| 03:12:52 | newbyx86 | Ok. It goes away now, it just takes longer. |
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| 03:12:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 03:13:34 | newbyx86 | Perhaps it is just slow at realizing it's been unplugged whereas RockBox doesn't have the patience to wait for it to realize if it hasn't or not. :P |
| 03:14:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, because even in situations where you haven't plugged it in at all, Rockbox will think that it's plugged in and reboot. |
| 03:14:52 | newbyx86 | True. |
| 03:15:07 | newbyx86 | I'll reset it and see if it's under the thought that it is connected. |
| 03:15:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | And Rockbox detects USB plugged status by whether it's receiving power from the USB connection, if I recall. |
| 03:15:15 | newbyx86 | Hah. It does. |
| 03:15:33 | newbyx86 | Let me restore it again and reset it to see if it's the iPod itself. |
| 03:15:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which means that for some reason the USB is reporting that it's receiving power, when it's not. |
| 03:16:15 | newbyx86 | What is weird is that I've never had this problem before. Or at least, I don't remember having it. And I reset my iPod quite a bit. |
| 03:16:32 | newbyx86 | Whenever I'd finish listening to it I'd reset it :P |
| 03:16:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems to only happen after using DD or iPodPatcher to write back to that partition. |
| 03:17:33 | newbyx86 | Hmm. You think using a firewire cord would do anything different? Or you think it's the port on the iPod itself. |
| 03:18:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I recall one person installed by way of firewire and still had the problem, but my memory's imperfect. |
| 03:18:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | It only seems to happen on 5Gs and possibly one Nano. |
| 03:19:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wonder if iPodLinux as run into this yet... |
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| 03:21:29 | sharpe | notnothing like deleting a +400mb png... |
| 03:21:51 | sharpe | hehe... notnothing... |
| 03:23:25 | newbyx86 | I could try ipodlinux if you'd like. |
| 03:24:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | No |
| 03:24:18 | newbyx86 | Hah. Weird. It says it's plugged in no matter what right after a fresh restore. |
| 03:24:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was more wondering for statistical purposes. |
| 03:25:31 | newbyx86 | Yeah. Now it says it's plugged in. |
| 03:25:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was curious how many 5Gs are afflicted, whether they're all newer than a certain age or what, and so on. |
| 03:25:34 | newbyx86 | But it's not. |
| 03:25:34 | newbyx86 | :P |
| 03:25:40 | newbyx86 | This is in the 4th generation. |
| 03:25:43 | newbyx86 | Aghaster has one. |
| 03:25:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | A photo, or grayscale 4G? |
| 03:25:57 | newbyx86 | iPod photo |
| 03:25:58 | Aghaster | ? |
| 03:26:00 | Aghaster | photo |
| 03:26:02 | newbyx86 | was released the same time as the 4g's |
| 03:26:06 | newbyx86 | But it was colo. |
| 03:26:07 | newbyx86 | color. |
| 03:26:10 | Aghaster | what are you talking about? |
| 03:26:17 | newbyx86 | Hmm? |
| 03:26:19 | newbyx86 | about the same time* |
| 03:26:44 | midkay | something really damn weird is going on.. |
| 03:26:50 | midkay | i can't find three game cds. |
| 03:26:55 | Aghaster | uh |
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| 03:27:07 | newbyx86 | Brb. Gonna make some more hotdogs while rockbox compiles. :P |
| 03:27:12 | midkay | F.E.A.R. disc 5 .. GTA:SA .. and Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow. |
| 03:27:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 03:27:16 | midkay | i've used them all quite recently. |
| 03:27:17 | sharpe | midkay: did i borrow them? |
| 03:27:26 | midkay | so they've all been taken or disappeared at once or something. |
| 03:27:31 | midkay | sharpe, ah. possibly. |
| 03:27:59 | sharpe | righto. |
| 03:28:22 | midkay | alright, seriously though. what the hell. |
| 03:28:43 | sharpe | maybe they're, under something? |
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| 03:29:15 | midkay | i've been looking everywhere for half an hour. |
| 03:29:25 | sharpe | in their respective cases? |
| 03:29:58 | midkay | of course, not you.. you.. dunce. |
| 03:30:13 | sharpe | only trying to help. |
| 03:30:28 | midkay | continue please. |
| 03:30:36 | sharpe | are they in your three cd drives? :) |
| 03:30:47 | midkay | all three are empty! |
| 03:30:55 | sharpe | xbox? |
| 03:31:24 | midkay | they aren't FOR xbox, and none are *in* it.. |
| 03:31:48 | newbyx86 | agh |
| 03:31:48 | newbyx86 | brb |
| 03:31:53 | sharpe | yeah, i know fear isn't for xbox, but the other two had a possibility. so hah. |
| 03:31:57 | sharpe | ps2? |
| 03:32:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | FEAR was bad, and should not be searched for anyway |
| 03:32:32 | midkay | fear kicked major ass. :) |
| 03:32:35 | midkay | no, all PC.. |
| 03:33:41 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 03:34:01 | sharpe | okay... what about... |
| 03:34:09 | Mikachu | sometimes when i'm looking for something it turns out i'm holding them in my hand, but i guess that doesn't apply here |
| 03:34:22 | Mikachu | i once spent 2 minutes looking for a fork |
| 03:34:22 | sharpe | trashcan? |
| 03:34:24 | midkay | ho, i just used them both to pull out and check behind the dresser. :( |
| 03:34:39 | midkay | sharpe, haha. i seriously HOPE not. |
| 03:34:49 | sharpe | what about your friend(s) that visit? |
| 03:35:07 | midkay | nobody visits me. |
| 03:35:14 | sharpe | you sad little man. |
| 03:35:26 | Mikachu | that means a lot when sharpe says it |
| 03:35:33 | midkay | oooooooooooooo... |
| 03:35:34 | midkay | :) |
| 03:35:35 | sharpe | what about... in the dresser? |
| 03:35:39 | midkay | i've checked. |
| 03:35:43 | midkay | the weird thing is. |
| 03:35:47 | midkay | i know they were all in the same pile. |
| 03:35:50 | midkay | sitting in my desk. |
| 03:35:59 | Mikachu | any brothers or sisters? |
| 03:35:59 | midkay | i moved and sorted the pile recently. |
| 03:36:06 | midkay | not here. |
| 03:36:08 | midkay | ghosts, possibly. |
| 03:36:09 | sharpe | checked behind/under your desk? |
| 03:36:18 | midkay | in fact i have. |
| 03:36:50 | sharpe | ah... |
| 03:37:11 | midkay | i wish there was some kind of tele.. something.. mind reader.. mabob whatever.. |
| 03:37:18 | midkay | to just TELL me where they are. |
| 03:37:31 | sharpe | have you checked every cd case? |
| 03:38:01 | midkay | not exactly. |
| 03:38:08 | midkay | i did search a number of game boxes i've got though. |
| 03:38:26 | midkay | how disappointing, i wanted to try fear patch 1.10.. |
| 03:38:29 | midkay | wait. |
| 03:38:30 | midkay | 1.05. |
| 03:39:08 | midkay | this is BANANAS. |
| 03:42:19 | midkay | i'm sure tomorrow they'll just appear sitting on the ground by the shelf thing over there anyways. |
| 03:42:35 | sharpe | maybe you sleep-move-stuff-around |
| 03:42:50 | midkay | hahahahaha. |
| 03:43:56 | midkay | NOOAOSDFASD. |
| 03:44:00 | midkay | i want to PLAY AAAAAAAAAH. |
| 03:44:24 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:45:40 | * | midkay considers going on a room-rampage, breaking stuff and flinging it across the room |
| 03:46:01 | midkay | but i know that once i hurl the dresser through the wall, i'll see the discs sitting behind where it was.. |
| 03:46:23 | sharpe | and you'll not notice the FEAR disc untill it's flying out the window... |
| 03:46:54 | midkay | haha. |
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| 03:50:39 | midkay | hey. |
| 03:50:42 | midkay | an upside just occurred. |
| 03:50:50 | midkay | i just located an old stinkbomb. |
| 03:50:58 | Mikachu | your dad? |
| 03:51:03 | midkay | what the hell. |
| 03:51:05 | midkay | no. |
| 03:51:07 | midkay | :p |
| 03:51:08 | Mikachu | jk etc |
| 03:51:20 | midkay | haha. |
| 03:51:53 | midkay | seriously, where did they go.. |
| 03:52:23 | XavierGr | I just encountered a major problem in rockbox for languages that use non-latin characters. |
| 03:52:48 | Mikachu | if you select a theme that uses a font without nonlatin chars? |
| 03:53:02 | XavierGr | there are some screens which rockbox uses the default font (without a choice) like recording screen and quick menu |
| 03:53:12 | Mikachu | ah, even better |
| 03:53:27 | XavierGr | the translator or the user has no choice |
| 03:53:38 | XavierGr | it is actually a dead end |
| 03:54:49 | XavierGr | and even worse this strings aren't only related to these screens. These strings are used elsewhere where you can have the font of your choice. |
| 03:55:52 | XavierGr | so I have the following options: Either leave them untranslated in order for these specific screens to appear ok (but have them without translation too) |
| 03:56:26 | XavierGr | or translate them and recording and quick screen show as garbage. |
| 03:57:21 | Aghaster | meh |
| 03:57:31 | * | Aghaster is currently working on the Esperanto translation |
| 03:57:37 | Aghaster | what screen do have these problems? |
| 03:57:49 | Aghaster | esperanto characters are not supported by all fonts. |
| 03:59:27 | XavierGr | recording and quick screen |
| 03:59:38 | XavierGr | but maybe there are more, though I don't think so... |
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| 04:01:15 | XavierGr | add to that the EQ screen :( |
| 04:01:18 | XavierGr | damn I hate this |
| 04:02:21 | Mikachu | Aghaster: like what characters? i thought it only used latin |
| 04:02:42 | Aghaster | ĉĈÄĜĵĴĥĤÅÅœÅŬ |
| 04:02:46 | XavierGr | ewww |
| 04:02:58 | Aghaster | these characters (are they appearing correctly? lol) |
| 04:02:58 | XavierGr | I see black boxes |
| 04:03:06 | Aghaster | yeah, see. you don't even support them |
| 04:03:08 | Aghaster | :P |
| 04:03:32 | Aghaster | its basically circumflexes over letters in case that do not exist in other languages |
| 04:03:39 | Mikachu | ah, i see |
| 04:04:23 | Aghaster | such as c circumflex, g circumflex, j circumflex, s circumflex and a u with an half-circle pointing towards the bottom over it |
| 04:04:36 | Aghaster | (dont know how that accent is called lol) |
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| 04:04:54 | Mikachu | Aghaster: breve |
| 04:05:00 | Aghaster | and u breve |
| 04:05:04 | Aghaster | :P |
| 04:05:05 | Mikachu | U+016D LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH BREVE |
| 04:05:08 | Mikachu | Notes: |
| 04:05:09 | Mikachu | • Latin, Esperanto, ... |
| 04:05:11 | Aghaster | yup |
| 04:05:20 | Mikachu | from gucharmap |
| 04:05:26 | Aghaster | yeah, its latin, of course |
| 04:05:29 | Aghaster | but its uncommon |
| 04:05:56 | Aghaster | Do you think the license on Bitstream Vera makes it usable in rockbox? |
| 04:06:06 | Aghaster | afaik, this font is from openoffice |
| 04:06:20 | Mikachu | dejavu sans would probably be easier to use |
| 04:06:27 | Mikachu | it's based on bitstream vera, but has more characters |
| 04:06:45 | Mikachu | iirc bitstream license requires you change the name if you do a modification |
| 04:07:02 | Aghaster | ok |
| 04:07:12 | Mikachu | converting it to bitmap doesn't count as modification though i guess |
| 04:07:17 | Aghaster | is dejeva installed by default? |
| 04:07:18 | Mikachu | but dejavu still has more glyphs |
| 04:07:41 | Mikachu | no idea, depends on the distro i guess |
| 04:07:43 | Aghaster | nope, i dont have it |
| 04:07:51 | Mikachu | dejavu.sf.net i think |
| 04:07:54 | Aghaster | has it been exported in rockbox format? |
| 04:08:06 | Mikachu | not that i know |
| 04:08:14 | Aghaster | ok |
| 04:08:40 | Mikachu | but those characters you pasted aren't in bistream vera, however they are in dejavu |
| 04:09:13 | Aghaster | well, if they appear in openoffice with bitstream vera they should be in it, no? |
| 04:10:01 | Mikachu | it may be falling back to another font |
| 04:10:17 | Aghaster | k |
| 04:11:47 | XavierGr | aaaahhhh |
| 04:11:47 | Aghaster | yep, its full of foreign characters. i like that |
| 04:11:48 | Aghaster | lol |
| 04:11:55 | XavierGr | add to that the pitch screen |
| 04:12:13 | Aghaster | hum? |
| 04:12:26 | Mikachu | screens that force the default font, breaking greek |
| 04:12:43 | Aghaster | yeah, we'd have to do that |
| 04:12:58 | midkay | i'm working on that now actually! |
| 04:13:02 | Aghaster | :) |
| 04:13:02 | XavierGr | breaking every language that is nonlatin I say |
| 04:13:11 | XavierGr | midkay really? |
| 04:13:13 | Aghaster | hehe, good thing for internationalisation if we do that |
| 04:13:18 | midkay | i'll commit a new quickscreen with support for user font in a moment, i think.. |
| 04:13:24 | midkay | same for pitchscreen should not be hard. |
| 04:13:24 | Aghaster | nice |
| 04:13:27 | XavierGr | nice |
| 04:13:31 | XavierGr | echo.. |
| 04:13:45 | midkay | echo..... |
| 04:13:48 | midkay | echoooo........ |
| 04:13:52 | XavierGr | great I won't have to edit the lang file then!!! |
| 04:14:07 | Aghaster | can fontforge export to BDF? |
| 04:14:08 | midkay | i'd like to do this in more places in rockbox. |
| 04:14:30 | midkay | seems like a *lot* of places use sysfixed to avoid a problem with maybe one or two possible fonts out of the included, like, 30.. |
| 04:14:39 | midkay | size detection is nice. |
| 04:15:56 | Mikachu | echo |
| 04:16:00 | Mikachu | (i'm far away) |
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| 04:22:00 | newbyx86 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2954 |
| 04:22:01 | newbyx86 | Hmm.... |
| 04:22:04 | Aghaster | how do i convert to FNT format? |
| 04:22:08 | newbyx86 | Anybody know how to get that patch working? :P |
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| 04:45:10 | daurn|laptop | yo |
| 04:45:21 | midkay | daurn|laptop!! |
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| 04:45:38 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 04:45:42 | Mikachu | newbyx86: looks like someone who knows what they're doing needs to look at it |
| 04:55:51 | newbyx86 | Mikachu, alright. |
| 04:55:57 | newbyx86 | Anyway, back to enjoying Doom on an iPod. :p |
| 04:56:12 | Aghaster | :) |
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| 05:02:06 | midkay | sigh. |
| 05:02:21 | * | midkay is stumped with a bit of coding trouble. |
| 05:03:53 | sharpe | howso? |
| 05:03:56 | daurn|laptop | lol |
| 05:04:01 | daurn|laptop | doom on a gmini is better |
| 05:04:02 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 05:04:19 | midkay | sharpe, what do you mean? it's just working unexpectedly.. |
| 05:04:21 | Mikachu | doom on nano hurts your thumb |
| 05:04:32 | newbyx86 | Haha, I'd wager it does. |
| 05:04:32 | newbyx86 | ;P |
| 05:04:42 | Mikachu | the buttons are pretty stiff |
| 05:04:46 | sharpe | midkay, what are you talking about? |
| 05:04:49 | newbyx86 | Doom on an iPod photo is nice. |
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| 05:05:05 | midkay | sharpe, i'm working on the quickscreen. |
| 05:05:14 | sharpe | ah... |
| 05:05:19 | midkay | confusing code.. especially considering that i wrote a lot of it. :) |
| 05:05:23 | midkay | well, modified heavily.. |
| 05:05:26 | Aghaster | haha |
| 05:05:29 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 05:05:31 | midkay | wrote-based-on-previous-code :) |
| 05:05:36 | Mikachu | nothing is as confusing as code you wrote yourself |
| 05:05:44 | midkay | i agree. |
| 05:07:56 | newbyx86 | Mikachu, I disagree. Reading code in a language you don't know is more confusing. :p |
| 05:08:11 | newbyx86 | Or reading code you haven't touched in like, a year. |
| 05:08:12 | Mikachu | heh |
| 05:08:20 | JdGordon | hey, can u edit id3 tags in rockbox? |
| 05:08:21 | newbyx86 | "The hell am I doing?...." |
| 05:08:25 | Mikachu | well, with your own code you go in with the expectation that you will understand it |
| 05:08:36 | sharpe | what about, porting code from a language you know absolutely nothing about? |
| 05:08:49 | newbyx86 | sharpe, that's always fun. |
| 05:08:56 | newbyx86 | Especially when you botch one line and it screws the entire project. :p |
| 05:09:13 | newbyx86 | I remember my friend wrote an entire class for one line of Java/C code. I forget what language. |
| 05:09:19 | sharpe | i find it exhilarating. |
| 05:09:22 | sharpe | heh... |
| 05:09:30 | newbyx86 | But some guy used one line for a BigInteger or something, and my friend wrote an entire class to do the same thing. |
| 05:09:42 | | Join patterson [0] (n=null@dialup-4.243.103.234.Dial1.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net) |
| 05:09:46 | sharpe | sounds like fun... |
| 05:09:53 | newbyx86 | Hehe. |
| 05:10:56 | sharpe | ... since when does fileplanet have a myspace blog? |
| 05:11:03 | newbyx86 | Hahahaha. |
| 05:11:14 | Mikachu | blogs need to die :( |
| 05:11:33 | dj-fu | yeah |
| 05:11:40 | dj-fu | blogs brought even more idiots to the 'net |
| 05:12:02 | sharpe | yep... |
| 05:12:19 | newbyx86 | That reminds me of this bash.org quote... *grabs* |
| 05:12:35 | newbyx86 | http://bash.org/?257382 |
| 05:13:00 | sharpe | :) |
| 05:13:36 | daurn|laptop | more idiots? |
| 05:13:43 | daurn|laptop | i didn't think they could fit any more |
| 05:14:07 | dj-fu | it'll be even worse with ipv6 ;x |
| 05:14:12 | newbyx86 | Hehehehe. |
| 05:14:25 | * | daurn|laptop imagines 6 parts to an ip address |
| 05:14:32 | newbyx86 | Maybe not. I hear Windows Defender is working so well that it's literally keeping people off the internet. |
| 05:14:36 | sharpe | so many possible addresses... |
| 05:14:52 | daurn|laptop | only 65025 times more losers on the net' |
| 05:15:01 | dj-fu | more than that |
| 05:15:10 | daurn|laptop | for a total of 274941996890625 |
| 05:15:41 | daurn|laptop | sorry |
| 05:15:42 | daurn|laptop | 281474976710656 |
| 05:15:47 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 05:16:01 | daurn|laptop | i did 255 instead of 256 |
| 05:16:02 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 05:16:40 | sharpe | that's only, roughly 40210 times more than the current number of people in the world! |
| 05:16:50 | daurn|laptop | but think |
| 05:16:56 | daurn|laptop | each person has a router |
| 05:17:00 | daurn|laptop | and a dialup connection |
| 05:17:11 | daurn|laptop | in future they'll have 10000 each |
| 05:17:12 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 05:17:17 | sharpe | i'd hate to be a phone operator... :) |
| 05:17:25 | daurn|laptop | ? |
| 05:17:33 | sharpe | although that has nothing to do at all with dialup. |
| 05:17:47 | sharpe | i don't even know why i said it |
| 05:17:51 | daurn|laptop | .. |
| 05:17:55 | | Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-31-247.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:18:01 | * | daurn|laptop bans sharpe from talking |
| 05:18:10 | daurn|laptop | lol - best quote: <slutknght> has anyone registered microsoft.org or .net? |
| 05:18:19 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 05:18:21 | | Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 05:18:43 | daurn|laptop | shush |
| 05:18:45 | daurn|laptop | your banned |
| 05:19:10 | sharpe | oh yeah? |
| 05:19:16 | Mikachu | what about his banned? |
| 05:19:26 | sharpe | what the hell. |
| 05:19:38 | | Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-145-133-19.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:19:38 | newbyx86 | lol |
| 05:19:48 | sharpe | fileplanet has a download for "Sims 2 - Nude Skins" |
| 05:19:55 | Aghaster | lol |
| 05:19:57 | | Join Keegan_Witt [0] (n=KeegansL@oh-71-55-62-215.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 05:20:01 | newbyx86 | awesome |
| 05:20:01 | newbyx86 | ;P |
| 05:20:07 | daurn|laptop | [13:17:58] * daurn|laptop bans sharpe from talking |
| 05:20:08 | Xinux | perverts -_- |
| 05:20:24 | Mikachu | i have never seen skin that wasn't nude |
| 05:20:29 | sharpe | hey, i'm just looking at fileplanet. |
| 05:20:36 | | Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 05:20:45 | Xinux | lmao, im assuming you went there and searched "Sims 2 - Nude Skins" |
| 05:20:59 | Aghaster | XD |
| 05:21:02 | Aghaster | owned |
| 05:21:05 | sharpe | nope, oddly enough it's under Free Games -> Strategy |
| 05:21:09 | Xinux | o.O |
| 05:21:09 | newbyx86 | hahah |
| 05:21:11 | Xinux | strateegy ? |
| 05:21:12 | Xinux | lmao |
| 05:21:15 | Aghaster | lollll |
| 05:21:25 | Mikachu | i only played sims2 for 10 minutes |
| 05:21:30 | Mikachu | i got two girls to marry eachother |
| 05:21:39 | Xinux | lies! |
| 05:22:17 | daurn|laptop | lol |
| 05:22:23 | Keegan_Witt | does rockbox use the same file system hierarchy as original (I have Ipod color) |
| 05:22:29 | Keegan_Witt | ? |
| 05:22:42 | Mikachu | you can if you want |
| 05:22:56 | Keegan_Witt | what I mean is are the folders named nonsense? |
| 05:22:56 | newbyx86 | I wonder how well the RockBoy plugin works. |
| 05:23:04 | sharpe | it uses the same filesystem (as in fat32), but not the same way of storing files. |
| 05:23:07 | Mikachu | Keegan_Witt: only if you want them to be |
| 05:23:08 | newbyx86 | Keegan_Witt, if you keep the old music yes. |
| 05:23:16 | sharpe | rockbox works as a fileviewer. |
| 05:23:18 | newbyx86 | You can use the ID3 database and get all their ID3 tags and store them in a database. |
| 05:23:20 | sharpe | gah |
| 05:23:23 | sharpe | filebrowser. |
| 05:23:32 | newbyx86 | Or you can delete all of them and do it your own way. |
| 05:23:39 | Xinux | i put my ipod in the oven, and ate it |
| 05:23:45 | newbyx86 | Personally, I do /Music/Artist/Artist - Year - Album/##-SongName.mp3 |
| 05:23:49 | Xinux | it ttasted like shit, just to say |
| 05:23:51 | Mikachu | Xinux: the oven or the ipod? |
| 05:23:52 | Keegan_Witt | how complicated is that? |
| 05:23:55 | newbyx86 | Xinux, did it taste like an Apple? |
| 05:23:59 | Xinux | nope |
| 05:24:03 | newbyx86 | Darn. |
| 05:24:04 | newbyx86 | :( |
| 05:24:05 | Xinux | tasted like windows |
| 05:24:09 | newbyx86 | Eww. That's even worse! |
| 05:24:14 | daurn|laptop | lol: |
| 05:24:15 | daurn|laptop | <Mercster> ever shot a Glock? |
| 05:24:15 | Xinux | ='( |
| 05:24:15 | daurn|laptop | <Eppy> i don't know any glocks, but if they're like most people i've met, i probably wouldn't mind squeezing off a few rounds at them |
| 05:24:16 | newbyx86 | I wonder if Apple made it that way, because they envy Windoze. |
| 05:24:44 | Xinux | it didnt really digest right |
| 05:24:45 | Xinux | i got viruses |
| 05:24:49 | newbyx86 | BSOD'd out? |
| 05:24:54 | newbyx86 | blue shit of death :P |
| 05:24:58 | Xinux | lmao |
| 05:25:02 | Mikachu | bullshit of death |
| 05:25:04 | Xinux | i had to reformat my body |
| 05:25:16 | newbyx86 | You got rid of your FAT? |
| 05:25:19 | Xinux | nah |
| 05:25:19 | newbyx86 | err, FAT32. |
| 05:25:24 | Mikachu | he only uses virtual fat |
| 05:25:33 | sharpe | the good kind of fat. |
| 05:25:37 | Xinux | lmao |
| 05:25:38 | newbyx86 | ext2 fat? :p |
| 05:25:43 | newbyx86 | Hmm. |
| 05:25:48 | dj-fu | http://www.break.com/index/reidslip11.html |
| 05:25:51 | sharpe | omega 3's! |
| 05:26:07 | Xinux | you can use windows and not get viruses |
| 05:26:24 | newbyx86 | Xinux, if you never let it touch the internet, sure. |
| 05:26:24 | newbyx86 | :P |
| 05:26:25 | sharpe | i use windows without viruses. |
| 05:26:29 | Xinux | same |
| 05:26:34 | newbyx86 | I used Windows without viruses. |
| 05:26:41 | newbyx86 | I use Linux now, simply because I can't stand how slow Windows is compared to Linux. :P |
| 05:26:41 | * | Aghaster uses linux |
| 05:26:43 | Xinux | linux is still alot better. |
| 05:26:48 | daurn|laptop | lol |
| 05:26:49 | daurn|laptop | <Jude> I wish humans laid eggs |
| 05:26:49 | Xinux | even games |
| 05:26:50 | daurn|laptop | <Ringlord> UGH |
| 05:26:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK daurn|laptop |
| 05:26:50 | daurn|laptop | <Ringlord> why would you want humans to lay eggs? |
| 05:26:50 | daurn|laptop | <Jude> So i can eat them |
| 05:26:54 | dj-fu | s/windows/xbox/g |
| 05:26:57 | Xinux | when you get games to work in linux, they run alot faster |
| 05:27:02 | Xinux | opposed to windows |
| 05:27:07 | Keegan_Witt | newbyx86, it seems a lot faster? |
| 05:27:11 | newbyx86 | Like, I plugged the iPod into my brother's computer. |
| 05:27:13 | newbyx86 | It literally sat there |
| 05:27:15 | newbyx86 | for like, 20 seconds. |
| 05:27:19 | Xinux | it does that |
| 05:27:19 | newbyx86 | And did absolutely nothing. |
| 05:27:24 | Xinux | i know |
| 05:27:28 | dj-fu | at least in nix you can dmesg|tail when you plug shit in |
| 05:27:28 | newbyx86 | In Linux, I'da mounted the iPod, rm'd the file, and ejected it. |
| 05:27:33 | newbyx86 | dj-fu, exactly. |
| 05:27:38 | newbyx86 | I can dmesg and see what's up |
| 05:27:42 | dj-fu | or hald/pmount would have taken care of it for you |
| 05:27:45 | Keegan_Witt | wat distro r u on? |
| 05:27:45 | newbyx86 | Versus Windows holding my hand and hiding that from me. |
| 05:27:46 | Xinux | linux is alot more easy to use then windows |
| 05:27:49 | dj-fu | if you're so inclined.. (i am) |
| 05:27:50 | newbyx86 | Keegan_Witt, Slackware. |
| 05:28:04 | Keegan_Witt | ahh...good 'ol slack ;) |
| 05:28:05 | dj-fu | slack is pewp |
| 05:28:11 | newbyx86 | slack ist krieg |
| 05:28:18 | Xinux | debian... |
| 05:28:35 | dj-fu | is even worse |
| 05:28:37 | Xinux | nah |
| 05:28:40 | dj-fu | don't ge tany speed out of a binary distro |
| 05:28:42 | Xinux | debian = best. |
| 05:28:47 | dj-fu | lol, not a chance |
| 05:28:51 | Xinux | pssh |
| 05:28:54 | Xinux | your suggestion ? |
| 05:28:58 | dj-fu | gentoo |
| 05:29:03 | Keegan_Witt | I couldnt get debian to install |
| 05:29:03 | Xinux | i figured you'd say that |
| 05:29:10 | Xinux | lmao thats pathetic |
| 05:29:11 | dj-fu | or obsd |
| 05:29:17 | newbyx86 | Hah. |
| 05:29:19 | newbyx86 | OpenBSD is nice. |
| 05:29:23 | dj-fu | no doub |
| 05:29:27 | dj-fu | s/doub/doubt/ |
| 05:29:27 | Keegan_Witt | dj-fu, does compiling from source seem to run faster than binary installs? |
| 05:29:29 | newbyx86 | FreeBSD is nicer IMO, but that's because I haven't taken the time to love OpenBSD like I should. |
| 05:29:34 | dj-fu | Keegan_Witt, fuck yeah |
| 05:29:39 | newbyx86 | My router uses FreeBSD, but I should really move it over to OBSD. |
| 05:29:42 | sharpe | i find it funny how the conversaion flow so easily from topic to topic... |
| 05:29:48 | newbyx86 | But at least I use pf :P |
| 05:29:50 | Xinux | o.o |
| 05:29:52 | sharpe | wow. |
| 05:29:56 | sharpe | i can't spell tonight. |
| 05:30:00 | | Quit damaki (Connection timed out) |
| 05:30:04 | newbyx86 | I procrastinated like 5 projects today. Hooray! |
| 05:30:10 | Xinux | nice. |
| 05:30:17 | sharpe | that's what i'm doing right now! |
| 05:30:18 | dj-fu | I'm in the progress of procrastinating one right now |
| 05:30:21 | newbyx86 | Hehe. |
| 05:30:25 | Aghaster | haha |
| 05:30:26 | Xinux | im not even doing any projects |
| 05:30:42 | newbyx86 | lemme see. I'm supposed to research Alexander the Great. |
| 05:30:45 | Aghaster | my current project is to finish translating rockbox to esperanto |
| 05:30:46 | newbyx86 | I just bookmarked a wikipedia page. :P |
| 05:30:48 | Aghaster | but its kinda long |
| 05:31:06 | dj-fu | I have decreed, that you shalt only speak in esperanto from this point forward |
| 05:31:14 | Xinux | i gave up on modding my iPod |
| 05:31:15 | sharpe | i'm suppose to write three pages on three different things... mostly my opinion. |
| 05:31:21 | Xinux | my iPod just doesnt want to be modded |
| 05:31:44 | dj-fu | I've gotta convert a 10page report on telstraclear's entire network to powerpoint bullets |
| 05:31:45 | newbyx86 | Jesus, this emulator sounds terrible. :p |
| 05:31:48 | dj-fu | and then memorise it :\ |
| 05:31:48 | Aghaster | dj-fu: bone, mi certe povas, sed neniu komprenos... |
| 05:32:09 | dj-fu | Aghaster, what kind of accent is it pronounced with? |
| 05:32:12 | Xinux | dj-fu: lmao |
| 05:32:27 | dj-fu | well, 10pages were the parts on wimax. I did the wimax |
| 05:32:30 | Aghaster | dj-fu: there is no accent... its a conlang, and an international one |
| 05:32:38 | Xinux | sharpe: i hate writing things in my opinion |
| 05:32:42 | dj-fu | but if I said that stuff, it'd have a new zealand accent |
| 05:32:45 | Xinux | sharpe: because my opinion is very cruel. |
| 05:32:58 | sharpe | sharpe: my opinion is... virtually nonexistant. |
| 05:33:28 | sharpe | why did i do that. |
| 05:33:32 | Aghaster | boneh, me tserteh povass, sed neh-niu komprenoss |
| 05:33:39 | Aghaster | in english phonetics |
| 05:33:58 | dj-fu | ic |
| 05:34:03 | Xinux | fckin this guy is amazing, the blindfolded pianist |
| 05:34:13 | dj-fu | that's not that amazing |
| 05:34:16 | dj-fu | ust like type touching |
| 05:34:29 | sharpe | touch typing? |
| 05:34:33 | Xinux | yeah |
| 05:34:37 | Xinux | wtf is that |
| 05:38:05 | sharpe | like, training to hit certain keys, typing without looking at the keyboard... etc... |
| 05:38:23 | Xinux | wtf i dont need training for that |
| 05:38:24 | Xinux | O.O |
| 05:38:33 | sharpe | well, not really training. |
| 05:38:47 | Xinux | it doesnt matter if hes blindfolded anyways |
| 05:38:50 | Xinux | he can just play really fast |
| 05:39:02 | Mikachu | he is pretty amazing, blindfolded or not |
| 05:39:08 | Xinux | exactly |
| 05:40:03 | dj-fu | I can type 120wpm blindfolded |
| 05:40:05 | dj-fu | same shit |
| 05:40:08 | dj-fu | just repeated training |
| 05:40:25 | Mikachu | yeah, he just had to practice for years, not impressive at all |
| 05:40:49 | Xinux | still amazxing |
| 05:41:17 | dj-fu | everyone here can probably do the same, programmers |
| 05:41:19 | dj-fu | been typing for years |
| 05:41:27 | Xinux | yes |
| 05:42:21 | | Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 05:43:05 | Xinux | I do about |
| 05:43:07 | Xinux | 70 WPM |
| 05:43:12 | Xinux | not as fast |
| 05:43:17 | Xinux | but i dont type that much |
| 05:44:05 | newbyx86 | Haha. |
| 05:44:10 | newbyx86 | I maxed out around 150 I think. |
| 05:44:13 | newbyx86 | typingtest.com or something |
| 05:44:16 | newbyx86 | I was #1 for 3 weeks. |
| 05:44:20 | Mikachu | dj-fu: have you seen the video? |
| 05:44:27 | | Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 05:44:28 | newbyx86 | Mainly because I wrote a program to do the sentences for me. But my legit attempts were averaging at 130. |
| 05:44:29 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:44:30 | newbyx86 | With a few errors. |
| 05:45:18 | dj-fu | Mikachu, I've not, url? |
| 05:45:39 | newbyx86 | And rofl @ the myspace kids trying to extort the site owners. |
| 05:45:40 | newbyx86 | Hahahaha. |
| 05:45:45 | Xinux | still i can type without looking at 70 WPM |
| 05:45:54 | newbyx86 | ...threats were made that unless $150,000 was paid, new exploit code would be released, according to the statement. |
| 05:45:56 | Xinux | maybe faster with looking |
| 05:45:58 | Xinux | let me try |
| 05:46:02 | Mikachu | dj-fu: http://mikachu.ath.cx/ben_mario_piano_2.wmv |
| 05:46:05 | newbyx86 | Uhm, if I had exploit code for MySpace, it'd be all over the net in 150,000 milliseconds. |
| 05:46:07 | newbyx86 | For free. |
| 05:47:15 | Xinux | 160 wpm.... |
| 05:47:30 | Xinux | thats bullshit |
| 05:47:56 | newbyx86 | That site? Probably. |
| 05:48:00 | Mikachu | wouldn't chars per minute be a lot less meaningless? |
| 05:48:06 | newbyx86 | Kids did what I did. Wrote down as much of the story as they could. |
| 05:48:11 | newbyx86 | And then had a program input it in like, 1 second. |
| 05:48:16 | newbyx86 | output* |
| 05:48:18 | Xinux | lmao........ |
| 05:48:23 | Xinux | that would be an obvious hack |
| 05:48:31 | Xinux | nobody could right like 300 words per second |
| 05:48:38 | newbyx86 | Hahahaha. |
| 05:48:42 | newbyx86 | I put an attempt up at 900 wpm. |
| 05:48:46 | newbyx86 | And they deleted all my attempts, legit ones included. |
| 05:48:48 | newbyx86 | :( |
| 05:48:54 | newbyx86 | That's when I stopped visiting. |
| 05:48:54 | newbyx86 | :P |
| 05:49:07 | Xinux | whats your highest legit |
| 05:49:18 | newbyx86 | Something like 129. I know I didn't make 130, but I got close. |
| 05:49:26 | newbyx86 | It was like my third time on the sentence, though, so I knew what I was typing. :P |
| 05:50:06 | earHertz | anyone have armulator installed? |
| 05:50:28 | Xinux | i just re-tried it and got 74 WPM |
| 05:51:01 | newbyx86 | Haha. I remember when I got 65 wpm in third grade. |
| 05:51:06 | newbyx86 | The teacher was like "....did you cheat" |
| 05:51:07 | Xinux | stfu hoe |
| 05:51:08 | newbyx86 | "no i did not cheat" |
| 05:51:12 | newbyx86 | "yes you did" |
| 05:51:14 | newbyx86 | and I started crying :P |
| 05:51:19 | Xinux | i dont take fckin typing trainers like you |
| 05:51:21 | sharpe | heh |
| 05:51:22 | Xinux | i learned on my own |
| 05:51:23 | newbyx86 | Haha. |
| 05:51:25 | newbyx86 | We had to in 3rd grade. |
| 05:51:26 | newbyx86 | :/ |
| 05:51:38 | newbyx86 | What was sad is that I was literally 2x faster than the teacher in the computer lab. |
| 05:51:46 | Xinux | ha |
| 05:51:47 | newbyx86 | Her best was like 30 :P |
| 05:51:58 | Xinux | im smarter than any computer lab owner i know |
| 05:51:59 | Xinux | o.o |
| 05:52:03 | sharpe | i remember, we had to type things printed out for us... i always finished first... |
| 05:52:03 | newbyx86 | Haha, I bet 95% of us are. |
| 05:52:06 | Xinux | and im smarter then alot of teachers |
| 05:52:07 | Mikachu | i can beat that just by typing lol when you say something funny |
| 05:52:08 | newbyx86 | sharpe, I did too. |
| 05:52:12 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 05:52:12 | * | Paul_The_Nerd just tried that silly test. |
| 05:52:12 | earHertz | old people are slower. Now get off my lawn, you damned kids |
| 05:52:14 | newbyx86 | We had a 12 week course. |
| 05:52:15 | newbyx86 | For that. |
| 05:52:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | 92wpm apparently |
| 05:52:18 | newbyx86 | I finished the entire program in 3 weeks. |
| 05:52:27 | sharpe | heh |
| 05:52:28 | newbyx86 | It went from like, 1 paragraph sets (adding keys as it went) |
| 05:52:29 | newbyx86 | to 3 paragraphs |
| 05:52:36 | newbyx86 | and I was done in 3 weeks. |
| 05:52:44 | newbyx86 | So I was literally doing nothing for 9 weeks in that class except playing some trucking game. |
| 05:52:44 | Xinux | i can type essays out in minutes o.o |
| 05:52:52 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: you have an ipod g4? |
| 05:52:52 | newbyx86 | Hah. I typed out a 5 paragraph essay in 13 minutes. A record for me. |
| 05:52:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: No, Nano |
| 05:53:02 | newbyx86 | And I got a 96% on it. |
| 05:53:03 | sharpe | they never let us play games when we were done. |
| 05:53:06 | newbyx86 | Paul_The_Nerd, ever played Doom on it? :P |
| 05:53:13 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: you know ARM assembly? |
| 05:53:13 | newbyx86 | sharpe, my teacher had no choice. I was distracting other kids. |
| 05:53:15 | Xinux | newby sounds just like me |
| 05:53:20 | Xinux | i type out essays in about 7 minutes |
| 05:53:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | newbyx86: Indeed. In fact, I was the first person to play Doom on a Rockbox'd Nano, if I recall. |
| 05:53:28 | Xinux | print it out and, bam, 95% or higher |
| 05:53:29 | newbyx86 | Hah. Sweet. :) |
| 05:53:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: Not in the slightest. |
| 05:53:37 | newbyx86 | Xinux, what's sad is that if I spend more time writing it and use big words and stuff |
| 05:53:39 | newbyx86 | I get like B's and C's. |
| 05:53:45 | newbyx86 | But if I just write something really quick, I get an A on it. |
| 05:53:49 | Xinux | yeah lmao |
| 05:53:54 | newbyx86 | "what's wrong with this" |
| 05:53:56 | newbyx86 | "it's poorly worded." |
| 05:53:59 | Xinux | i use a few more smarter sounding words |
| 05:54:03 | Xinux | not just the common ones |
| 05:54:11 | newbyx86 | "It was originally going to be 'spitting gum is completely stupid.' but I made it sound smart." |
| 05:54:13 | newbyx86 | and she had no comment. :P |
| 05:54:24 | Xinux | lmao... |
| 05:54:33 | newbyx86 | (We had to write an essay about a rule that has affected us. I wrote about chewing gum in school and how it's against the rules.) |
| 05:54:35 | Xinux | wtf are your essays about O.O |
| 05:54:42 | Xinux | oh |
| 05:54:43 | Xinux | you nerd |
| 05:54:45 | newbyx86 | :) |
| 05:54:48 | Xinux | who doesnt chew gum in school |
| 05:54:55 | newbyx86 | I was gonna do how they block all outgoing ports except 80 in our macintosh lab. |
| 05:55:01 | newbyx86 | but since I haven't had a computer class that hasn't affected me. Yet. :) |
| 05:55:02 | Xinux | haha |
| 05:55:09 | sharpe | people who don't like gum? |
| 05:55:13 | Mikachu | stupid test doesn't bloody let you backspace over a space |
| 05:55:18 | newbyx86 | "You assholes won't let me get onto my shell at home, or use IRC, or use FTP for cryin' out loud." |
| 05:55:19 | Xinux | they block all other ports except 80 ? |
| 05:55:30 | newbyx86 | Pretty much. |
| 05:55:32 | Xinux | hmph |
| 05:55:33 | newbyx86 | Maybe 25 and such for email. |
| 05:55:36 | newbyx86 | But it's really really limited. |
| 05:55:38 | newbyx86 | They whitelist ports :P |
| 05:55:54 | newbyx86 | But sadly ssh is open to the outside world iirc. |
| 05:56:15 | newbyx86 | I tried to log into the IP on port 22 with the name 'check_your_logs_id_number_225548_is_cooler_than_you' |
| 05:56:17 | newbyx86 | So that I'd get yelled at. |
| 05:56:18 | newbyx86 | Never did. |
| 05:56:19 | Xinux | hate stupid computer lab teachers |
| 05:56:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Yeah, that irritated me. |
| 05:56:23 | Xinux | think they know more then me |
| 05:56:29 | Mikachu | it keeps throwing me off |
| 05:56:33 | newbyx86 | I even left my full name at some plint. |
| 05:56:34 | newbyx86 | point. |
| 05:56:37 | newbyx86 | But never got yelled at. |
| 05:56:41 | newbyx86 | Maybe because it was coming from Canada. :/ |
| 05:56:52 | newbyx86 | Hooray for shells. |
| 05:57:27 | Mikachu | ooh, i pressed space a time too many and it misaligned all words from then on, THANKS |
| 05:57:28 | Xinux | Mikachu: if you make a mistake, just keep going |
| 05:57:47 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 05:57:47 | Mikachu | yeah but then you have to stop and look where it thinks you are, ruining the whole test |
| 05:57:59 | Mikachu | whereas if i was typing an actual test i would know where i was |
| 05:58:00 | Xinux | lmao |
| 05:58:10 | newbyx86 | Yeah. |
| 05:58:11 | Xinux | what are you getting ? |
| 05:58:41 | sharpe | i'm going to see how slow i can type. |
| 05:58:53 | Xinux | lmao |
| 05:59:05 | earHertz | what'sa teletypewriter? |
| 05:59:05 | Mikachu | i get ~100 wps |
| 05:59:07 | Mikachu | er |
| 05:59:08 | Mikachu | wpm |
| 05:59:14 | Aghaster | lol |
| 05:59:27 | Mikachu | it thinks i got 89, but it can't count :) |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:17 | Xinux | i went slow and got 61 WPM |
| 06:00:28 | dj-fu | where's the url? |
| 06:00:34 | Xinux | and it counted a punctuation error as a word error |
| 06:00:36 | Xinux | ftw ? |
| 06:00:45 | newbyx86 | dj-fu, for the typing test? |
| 06:00:47 | Xinux | http://www.typingtest.com/ |
| 06:00:48 | newbyx86 | www.typingtest.com |
| 06:00:54 | EbErT | you can all test on the same place and see how you do |
| 06:00:54 | dj-fu | ta |
| 06:01:02 | | Join webguest14 [0] (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) |
| 06:01:06 | Xinux | i get 61 when i type slow |
| 06:01:06 | EbErT | hey, can someone tell me where the "debug" menu is? i've misplaced it |
| 06:01:11 | newbyx86 | Damn. I have to ln to the plugin. :| |
| 06:01:20 | earHertz | EbErT: under info |
| 06:01:23 | | Part Keegan_Witt |
| 06:01:38 | EbErT | ah, thx |
| 06:01:57 | dj-fu | bugger, have to re-merge firefox |
| 06:02:04 | newbyx86 | There. |
| 06:02:09 | newbyx86 | Had to re-update the link. |
| 06:02:09 | newbyx86 | :P |
| 06:02:30 | EbErT | is there a way to set the cpu frequency at 75 mhz? |
| 06:02:32 | Xinux | grrr |
| 06:02:35 | Xinux | i just got about 102 |
| 06:02:39 | Xinux | i fluctuate too much |
| 06:02:41 | dj-fu | it steps for a purpose, EbErT |
| 06:02:58 | sharpe | woo! one wpm. |
| 06:03:02 | Xinux | lmao |
| 06:03:12 | Mikachu | heh, that airplane alliances test is hard to get high on |
| 06:03:16 | Mikachu | all words are at least 15 lettesr |
| 06:03:22 | Xinux | nah |
| 06:03:30 | EbErT | you mean up and down? under debug, you can set it to full 75 mhz. was wondering if I could keep it that way upon reboot dj-fu |
| 06:03:37 | sharpe | i'm going to see how much time i save by touch typing. |
| 06:03:41 | newbyx86 | 121 wpm |
| 06:03:47 | sharpe | according to the applet. |
| 06:03:55 | newbyx86 | ss! :) |
| 06:04:45 | newbyx86 | You can do it FTP script, connect! |
| 06:04:51 | sharpe | for six hours, i could save 3 hours a day by touch typing instead of one word per minute... |
| 06:05:05 | newbyx86 | touch typing? |
| 06:05:32 | Xinux | Many leading companies have dramatically expanded their alliance activities with competitors in the past few years. This trend is particularly prominent in consolidating global industries such as airlines, telecoms, automobiles and chemicals, but also in rapidly expanding internet-related industries featuring players like Cisco, Microsoft and AOL. But there are two very different kinds of alliances in use. One might be called flirtati |
| 06:05:43 | newbyx86 | http://www.newbyproductions.net/images/121wpm.png |
| 06:05:49 | Xinux | it cut off the rest |
| 06:05:50 | Xinux | O.O |
| 06:05:53 | newbyx86 | Only 5 errors? boo! :P |
| 06:05:55 | sharpe | hah, you need at least 10 wpm for an email with the results. |
| 06:06:24 | Xinux | yo |
| 06:06:28 | Xinux | where the fck is 'n' |
| 06:06:33 | newbyx86 | Right there. |
| 06:06:33 | Xinux | i cant find the 'n' |
| 06:06:33 | newbyx86 | n |
| 06:07:05 | sharpe | n? |
| 06:07:13 | Xinux | lmao |
| 06:07:15 | Xinux | I got 2 wpm |
| 06:07:18 | Xinux | with 17 errors |
| 06:07:21 | newbyx86 | Haha. |
| 06:07:22 | newbyx86 | Nice. |
| 06:07:22 | Xinux | lmfao |
| 06:07:26 | sharpe | heh, i got 1 wpm with one error. |
| 06:07:45 | webguest14 | hmm |
| 06:07:47 | Xinux | WOW |
| 06:07:51 | webguest14 | wpm test? i need a link |
| 06:07:55 | Xinux | it says i can type 60 wpm by practicing |
| 06:07:56 | Xinux | omgogmogm |
| 06:08:03 | Xinux | http://www.typingtest.com/ |
| 06:08:05 | newbyx86 | :) |
| 06:08:07 | sharpe | that's like! one word a second! |
| 06:08:14 | webguest14 | thx |
| 06:08:14 | newbyx86 | One word a second is impressive |
| 06:08:14 | Xinux | omg ftw |
| 06:08:15 | newbyx86 | ! |
| 06:08:16 | newbyx86 | !!!!! |
| 06:08:19 | newbyx86 | .... for maybe a second grader. |
| 06:08:23 | newbyx86 | Or a third grader. :P |
| 06:08:29 | Xinux | quit relating school to wpm |
| 06:08:29 | newbyx86 | Which it was for me anyway. :) |
| 06:08:29 | Xinux | O.O |
| 06:08:40 | sharpe | lets do cpm... |
| 06:08:44 | Xinux | and not everybody is a newb like you |
| 06:08:56 | Xinux | wtf is cpm ? |
| 06:08:59 | newbyx86 | characters per minute |
| 06:09:00 | newbyx86 | hehehe |
| 06:09:04 | Xinux | oh lmao |
| 06:09:10 | Xinux | thats just a bloated version of wpm |
| 06:10:47 | sharpe | woo! hitting random keys, 1217cpm. |
| 06:10:52 | newbyx86 | Hah. |
| 06:11:11 | sharpe | that's like, more than 200 wpm... ;) |
| 06:11:24 | Xinux | o.O |
| 06:11:28 | newbyx86 | Hehehe. |
| 06:11:44 | webguest14 | hmm |
| 06:11:48 | Xinux | do the test for 3 min |
| 06:11:55 | newbyx86 | That's murder. |
| 06:11:58 | Xinux | yeah lmao |
| 06:11:58 | newbyx86 | That's like typing an essay constantly. |
| 06:12:01 | webguest14 | 75% gross WPM at 96% accuracy, after a 2 minute test |
| 06:12:08 | | Nick webguest14 is now known as Falco98 (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) |
| 06:12:09 | Xinux | my hands would die of exhaustion |
| 06:12:13 | newbyx86 | That's like an entire essay. |
| 06:12:14 | newbyx86 | Hahaha. |
| 06:12:30 | newbyx86 | Averaging 120 wpm, ~360 wpm in 3 minutes, 80 words a paragraph? |
| 06:13:08 | Falco98 | yeah 120 wpm is impressive |
| 06:13:14 | Falco98 | i can't even read the text quite that fast :-P |
| 06:13:20 | newbyx86 | That's almost an entire essay in under 5 minutes. >:D |
| 06:13:22 | Falco98 | i might be able to top out 80 or so with practice |
| 06:13:24 | newbyx86 | Too bad I have like ADHD. |
| 06:13:34 | newbyx86 | And if I stare at a wall I have more fun than I do doing homework. |
| 06:13:43 | dj-fu | homework is for suckers |
| 06:13:51 | newbyx86 | /signed |
| 06:13:59 | * | dj-fu goes back to doing homework |
| 06:14:02 | daurn|laptop | Ever see What Women Want? |
| 06:14:03 | newbyx86 | I don't do my homework and I have about a B average. |
| 06:14:07 | newbyx86 | I could have an A, but I don't do homework. :( |
| 06:14:18 | Xinux | wtf newby ? |
| 06:14:24 | Xinux | what do they assign like no homework ? |
| 06:14:32 | Xinux | if i didnt do homework i'd have about a 30% F |
| 06:14:33 | newbyx86 | No. They just count homework for under 20% of our grade. |
| 06:14:41 | newbyx86 | I love it. |
| 06:14:45 | Xinux | gay |
| 06:14:47 | Xinux | i hate you |
| 06:14:48 | Xinux | -_- |
| 06:14:50 | newbyx86 | :) |
| 06:14:51 | newbyx86 | I love me too. |
| 06:15:01 | Xinux | whats your CPM |
| 06:15:08 | Xinux | CPM = more accurate then WPM |
| 06:15:12 | newbyx86 | Never checked. |
| 06:15:14 | * | Falco98 looks around.. we have an op in here tonight? |
| 06:15:14 | Xinux | becaused A is a word. |
| 06:15:34 | Falco98 | then again, "intergalactic" is a word also |
| 06:15:38 | Xinux | yeah |
| 06:15:40 | JdGordon | Bagder on a power trip :D |
| 06:15:49 | JdGordon | hey Falco98 , i fixed the patch |
| 06:15:51 | Xinux | intergalactic = 13 chars |
| 06:15:52 | Xinux | A = 1 |
| 06:16:00 | Falco98 | but you're right, CPM would be more accurate especially in case of small sample size |
| 06:16:12 | newbyx86 | WPM is more accurate, since you have to finish a word to get anywhere in life. :P |
| 06:16:14 | Falco98 | JdGordon: I saw the comment on flyspray.. thanks! |
| 06:16:19 | Xinux | lmao |
| 06:16:32 | Falco98 | was it simply a matter of the code going in the wrong place since playlist.c had been updated? |
| 06:16:41 | Xinux | thats like saying GPS is accurate beacuse you can get to destinations using it |
| 06:16:47 | JdGordon | yup |
| 06:16:54 | Falco98 | heh, figures |
| 06:17:01 | JdGordon | excatly... it somehow jumped up a couple hundred lines.. |
| 06:17:06 | | Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) |
| 06:17:13 | JdGordon | i doubt it will need fixing again before monday :D |
| 06:17:25 | Falco98 | BTW i think you/we should use some name-versioning system for naming the patch with each revision.. just to absolutely avoid confusion |
| 06:17:30 | Falco98 | sweet |
| 06:17:58 | JdGordon | the bottom most one is the most recent.. |
| 06:18:11 | newbyx86 | 575 cpm |
| 06:18:19 | newbyx86 | 610 gross |
| 06:18:19 | newbyx86 | 7 errors |
| 06:18:24 | newbyx86 | 575 cpm net |
| 06:18:29 | newbyx86 | Accuracy 94% |
| 06:18:37 | Xinux | lmao |
| 06:18:39 | newbyx86 | That's because it went ahead of me :P |
| 06:18:42 | Xinux | you have crappy accuracy |
| 06:18:51 | newbyx86 | I typed some word, and it was one ahead of me. |
| 06:18:56 | Xinux | i do about 521 cpm |
| 06:19:02 | Xinux | 97% accuracy |
| 06:19:09 | newbyx86 | Die. :p |
| 06:19:12 | Xinux | -_- |
| 06:20:32 | Xinux | so you actually do about 115 wpm |
| 06:20:46 | | Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) |
| 06:20:46 | Xinux | i do 104.2 wpm |
| 06:20:48 | Falco98 | 384 CPM, 98% |
| 06:20:52 | | Quit Aghaster (Remote closed the connection) |
| 06:20:55 | Falco98 | i tend to trip and correct myself too much, it seems |
| 06:20:59 | newbyx86 | 128 wpm |
| 06:21:01 | newbyx86 | 96% accuray |
| 06:21:11 | newbyx86 | ^~^ |
| 06:21:17 | Xinux | you know itd be more accurate to take CPM |
| 06:21:20 | Xinux | and divide by 5 |
| 06:21:38 | Xinux | 5 characters per word |
| 06:21:53 | newbyx86 | Hehehe. |
| 06:22:10 | newbyx86 | Damnit. |
| 06:22:13 | newbyx86 | I am on the top 100, but wher?! |
| 06:22:48 | Xinux | 160 wpm is a bunch of bullshit |
| 06:22:53 | Xinux | nobody can type 3 words per second |
| 06:23:06 | dj-fu | that's pretty fast. lol. |
| 06:23:22 | Xinux | well its actually about 2.6 words per second |
| 06:23:23 | Xinux | but w/e |
| 06:23:34 | Xinux | thats still fckin fast |
| 06:23:41 | newbyx86 | Aww. 119 wpm on the tigers one. :( |
| 06:23:56 | Xinux | is the tigers one hard ? |
| 06:24:10 | newbyx86 | Meh. |
| 06:24:14 | newbyx86 | It's got some weird words. |
| 06:24:21 | Xinux | hmm |
| 06:24:24 | Xinux | not really |
| 06:24:31 | Xinux | just wierd countries |
| 06:24:41 | newbyx86 | It's the 28th. They better update that list again so I show up ^^ |
| 06:25:00 | newbyx86 | I'm right where #6 is sitting. He's in my way. :P |
| 06:25:33 | Falco98 | http://www.typingtest.com/urldirector.asp?go=www.kolumbus.fi/typingmaster/topten.htm |
| 06:26:02 | newbyx86 | To be more correct, I'm probably around 7 or 8. |
| 06:26:09 | newbyx86 | Since #6 = 128 but 98% accuracy |
| 06:26:13 | newbyx86 | whereas my 128 wpm was 96% accuracy :( |
| 06:26:33 | Xinux | accuracy is more important, because it takes time to go back and fix hsit |
| 06:26:48 | newbyx86 | Yeah. |
| 06:26:58 | JdGordon | http://science.slashdot.org/science/06/05/27/0654216.shtml <- its bloody cold enough.. we dont want a fixed ozone layer :'( |
| 06:27:03 | newbyx86 | The only pesron who has the right to brag on that list = the kid who did 109 wpm for 3 whole minutes. |
| 06:27:15 | newbyx86 | 36109 |
| 06:27:15 | newbyx86 | 97% |
| 06:27:15 | newbyx86 | 11203:00 |
| 06:27:15 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK newbyx86 |
| 06:27:15 | newbyx86 | 2006-05-21 23:58 |
| 06:27:15 | newbyx86 | Fishing in Finland |
| 06:27:31 | Xinux | JdGordon: temperature isnt all the ozone layers protecting us from |
| 06:28:21 | EbErT | uv rays |
| 06:28:35 | Xinux | nah |
| 06:28:44 | Xinux | CFCs |
| 06:28:46 | EbErT | no? |
| 06:29:06 | Xinux | well no |
| 06:29:09 | Xinux | err |
| 06:29:13 | Xinux | cant thing of the name of em |
| 06:29:19 | Xinux | it comes from the sun |
| 06:29:33 | EbErT | clouroflourocarbons? |
| 06:29:42 | EbErT | something like that? |
| 06:29:43 | Xinux | .... |
| 06:29:49 | Xinux | thats CFCs, i got the name wrong lmao |
| 06:29:58 | EbErT | sry, i'm going crazy heh |
| 06:30:20 | dj-fu | if you have a minute, browse through this |
| 06:30:24 | dj-fu | http://davidweiss.blogspot.com/2006/04/tour-of-microsofts-mac-lab.html |
| 06:31:01 | Falco98 | d/l the Penn&Teller episode about "environmental hysteria" if you're all that worried about global warming |
| 06:31:10 | Xinux | lmao |
| 06:31:13 | Xinux | im not worried about it |
| 06:31:29 | EbErT | i'm a liberal, but there is not much we can do about durn global warming |
| 06:31:31 | Xinux | things i worry about is economy |
| 06:31:35 | Xinux | and all these naive bitches in US |
| 06:31:38 | EbErT | other liberals need to shut up |
| 06:33:12 | Xinux | Falco98: why use macs ? |
| 06:33:36 | Xinux | overpriced. |
| 06:34:10 | EbErT | don't have to tinker with like on linux, super reliable <unlike windows> |
| 06:34:46 | Xinux | and look at the bright side, youre wasting thousands for nothing ? |
| 06:34:48 | Falco98 | um |
| 06:34:52 | Falco98 | me? macs? |
| 06:35:04 | Xinux | well |
| 06:35:05 | Xinux | the website |
| 06:35:05 | Xinux | o.O |
| 06:35:10 | | Join Scorpius [0] (i=Naikel@200.35.220.197) |
| 06:35:21 | Scorpius | err |
| 06:35:30 | Scorpius | I have a stupid question that I can't figure out in the Rockbox manual |
| 06:36:15 | Scorpius | I want that when I turn on the mp3 player it resumes the playlist and file in that exact position where I left it when I powered it off |
| 06:36:17 | Xinux | "Rotates like butter!" |
| 06:36:17 | Scorpius | is it that possible? |
| 06:37:30 | Falco98 | scorpius: yes |
| 06:37:34 | | Join Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 06:37:41 | earHertz | Scorpius: menu oplayback resume, i think |
| 06:38:02 | Falco98 | Scorpius: when you power back on, after it's finished booting, just hit "play" |
| 06:38:15 | Falco98 | that *should* do it when it's at default settings |
| 06:38:29 | Scorpius | Falco98: if I do that it goes inside the first folder I have on the list |
| 06:38:35 | Scorpius | then I power back on it shows again the folder list. |
| 06:38:37 | Falco98 | and you can set it so it automatically starts playing when turning back on, too |
| 06:38:48 | Aghaster | Falco98! how are you? |
| 06:38:55 | Falco98 | Scorpius: what mp3 player do you have? |
| 06:38:57 | Falco98 | Aghaster: i'm ok, how bout you? |
| 06:38:58 | Scorpius | H120 |
| 06:39:04 | Scorpius | iRiver H120. |
| 06:39:06 | Aghaster | i'm fine |
| 06:39:24 | Falco98 | Scorpius: when i say "play button" i mean the top button on the side of the player.. is that what you're pushing? |
| 06:39:37 | Scorpius | OOOOOOOOH |
| 06:39:43 | | Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 06:39:44 | Scorpius | :) |
| 06:39:46 | Falco98 | Scorpius: it sounds to me like you might be pressing the "navi" button instead |
| 06:39:51 | Scorpius | no I wasn't pushing that one hehe |
| 06:39:55 | Scorpius | yeah exactly |
| 06:39:55 | Scorpius | hehe |
| 06:40:01 | Falco98 | cool :) |
| 06:40:20 | Falco98 | ok well try it using the "play" button and see if it does what you like.... |
| 06:40:57 | Xinux | man |
| 06:41:02 | Scorpius | yeah it works just fine :D |
| 06:41:04 | Scorpius | this is so great |
| 06:41:05 | Xinux | what would i do without the scroller on my mouse |
| 06:41:10 | earHertz | the arm architechture has some nifty features |
| 06:41:42 | Falco98 | Xinux: i tend to agree.. i feel a little crippled when i have to use a mouse w/o a scroll wheel |
| 06:41:50 | Xinux | yeah |
| 06:42:01 | Xinux | you have to take your cursor all the way to the side-bar, then move it down |
| 06:42:45 | Falco98 | yep |
| 06:43:07 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 06:43:07 | * | JdGordon bored |
| 06:43:17 | * | newbyx86 is listening to Pantera now. |
| 06:43:17 | newbyx86 | :P |
| 06:44:52 | Falco98 | JdGordon: you ever figured out anything about why "insert random" (and) "insert tree randomly" mess up after the player is restarted? |
| 06:45:14 | Falco98 | i'm thinking it may have something to do with the weird numbers in the playlist_control file, but i've never been able to decipher it |
| 06:45:19 | JdGordon | nup.. didnt look into it |
| 06:45:19 | JdGordon | leaving that to hareep |
| 06:45:33 | Falco98 | heh, same |
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| 06:55:41 | Xinux | http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/terracottapie |
| 06:55:46 | Xinux | this was created by a 13 year old |
| 06:55:48 | Xinux | see it and believe it |
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| 06:59:55 | sharpe | woo my router. |
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| 07:03:53 | EbErT | Xinux: those colors on that vid almost gave me seizures |
| 07:03:58 | Xinux | lmao |
| 07:04:01 | Xinux | awesome |
| 07:04:02 | EbErT | if only the screen was bigger.. |
| 07:04:26 | Xinux | http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/shig.php |
| 07:04:32 | Xinux | thats just disturbing. |
| 07:04:45 | Xinux | makes me wanna cut my ears off, in an emo sort of way |
| 07:12:18 | Scorpius | I can't understand the fast parts of that flash thing |
| 07:12:43 | Scorpius | I can't understand anything of it, actually |
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| 07:16:50 | dj-fu | I'm not so proud to say, but I learnt that entire rap and performed it at a talent quest. |
| 07:16:51 | Scorpius | oh ok |
| 07:16:59 | Scorpius | it's Busta Rhymes - "Break Ya Neck" |
| 07:17:10 | Xinux | yeah |
| 07:17:51 | Xinux | i have a question... why do idiots think missouri is filled with hillbillies and rednecks ? |
| 07:18:07 | Mikachu | because it's in the us? |
| 07:18:11 | * | Mikachu ducsk |
| 07:18:15 | Xinux | o.O |
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| 07:19:50 | EbErT | probably more so with georgia, where i'm from |
| 07:20:24 | Scorpius | singing that song must not be easy |
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| 10:19:11 | racter- | hmm, the 'more themes' link in the rockbox nano manual is broken, anyone know where I would find something pretty? |
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| 10:21:51 | RedBreva | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano ?? |
| 10:22:39 | racter- | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewauth/Main/%20%20WpsIpodNano%20 is the one in the pdf |
| 10:23:36 | racter- | thankee |
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| 11:13:11 | JdGordon | any1 getting lots of codec failurs with the latest nightly? |
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| 11:18:58 | JdGordon | WTF??? playback is buggered... |
| 11:19:26 | JdGordon | i just chose the 2nd track in a folder expecting it to play the entire directory, it finished the track then jumped to the next folder instead of continuing the folder?? |
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| 11:32:52 | linuxstb | RedBreva: I had a quick look at that link problem in the manual. Did you try putting everything on one line? - my guess is that the newline characters are the cause of the spaces, but I haven't tried it. |
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| 11:33:40 | RedBreva | I thought of that, but the subbmitters tend not to like over long lines in the source... |
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| 11:35:01 | bluebrother | RedBreva: what link problem? You mean url links? |
| 11:35:10 | Slasheri | ah, finally i found a possible bug with tagcache. trying the fix now |
| 11:35:17 | RedBreva | yes |
| 11:35:48 | bluebrother | this is caused because Latex doesn't know how to break the long line. |
| 11:36:22 | linuxstb | I'm not sure how you can do it in latex, but in C source code, you just make the "\" character the last character on a line, and the C compiler will treat consecutive lines as a single input line. |
| 11:37:29 | linuxstb | But if not breaking the lines is required in order to get the correct output, then I can't see why people would complain - assuming that not breaking the lines fixes the issue. |
| 11:37:55 | bluebrother | usually yes, but this is somewhat different for urls. |
| 11:38:15 | bluebrother | bbl. |
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| 11:46:40 | petur | JdGordon: just checked with a build I did an hour ago and playblack is working stable (h340). Tried your scenario too. |
| 11:47:30 | JdGordon | :( hmm |
| 11:50:28 | JdGordon | it may have been coz it was the first thing i did after disconnecting from usb |
| 11:51:30 | petur | gotta run... later! |
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| 12:46:19 | JdGordon | lee-qid__: how can u be smart enough to use rockbox but use trillian???? |
| 12:46:32 | JdGordon | (minor sarcasm included in prev msg) |
| 12:47:00 | webguest12 | there appears to be aproblem with cvs and rockboxdev.sh - diffs for v1.1 to v1.3 work, but checked out versions and viewsvs versions are v1.1 |
| 12:47:21 | webguest12 | viewsvs = viewcvs |
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| 12:49:43 | Bagder | webguest12: yes, we have a current cvs/viewcvs mess situation |
| 12:50:14 | JdGordon | have a nice holiday Bagder ? |
| 12:50:36 | Bagder | I've been back for several days, but yes it was great |
| 12:50:47 | JdGordon | good to hear |
| 12:51:08 | JdGordon | freeze ending tomorow? |
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| 12:51:32 | webguest12 | Bagder: Ok, hope you can sort it soon |
| 12:51:53 | Bagder | cvs still works fine from command line though |
| 12:54:03 | webguest12 | when i checked out the sout-package source form cvs builds it had the wrong version of rockboxdev.sh |
| 12:54:55 | Bagder | and when you cvs update, you still don't get the 1.3? |
| 12:55:05 | Bagder | using what cvs version? |
| 12:56:38 | Bagder | I'm off now, back later tonight |
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| 13:20:56 | juxtap | anyone using album art with ipod 5g? |
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| 13:58:59 | JdGordon | is the statusbar avialbe on all targets? |
| 13:59:07 | amiconn | nope |
| 13:59:20 | amiconn | Not in the form of a status bar, to be precise |
| 13:59:33 | amiconn | All bitmap targets have the status bar |
| 13:59:56 | JdGordon | and non-bitmaps dont? |
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| 14:01:07 | amiconn | The charcell lcd has special status icons above and below the 2 lines of text |
| 14:01:33 | JdGordon | are they handled by the code in statusbar.c? or elsewhere? |
| 14:02:45 | JdGordon | doh.. they are handled in that code |
| 14:02:52 | JdGordon | just found the #define for it.. |
| 14:03:13 | amiconn | I'm fiddling with statusbar.c too - there's still a bug to fix introduced by Slasheri |
| 14:03:58 | JdGordon | im not fiddling just yet.. but im bored and tihnking its time to overhaul it.. make it configurable like the wps... |
| 14:04:22 | amiconn | urgh |
| 14:04:23 | Slasheri | amiconn: i have tried to debug and figure out the buffer overflow with tagcache.. it's really weird but certainly there seems to be something weird happening somewhere |
| 14:04:30 | Slasheri | i haven't yet found anything :/ |
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| 14:15:16 | * | JdGordon found an interesting "bug" |
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| 14:15:44 | JdGordon | if u cahnge STATUSBAR_HEIGHT to a larger value (only tried 80) it crashes on bootup once the tree is shown.. |
| 14:16:46 | JdGordon | 16 works tho.. |
| 14:16:51 | amiconn | You can't just change STATUSBAR_HEIGHT and expect it to work |
| 14:17:13 | JdGordon | well i see that now.. im testing just how much doesnt work if u do change it.. |
| 14:17:31 | * | JdGordon is freeking bored as u might have guessed |
| 14:18:21 | JdGordon | oh.. bloody remote lcd is killing it i tinhk.. |
| 14:19:12 | daurn|laptop | yo' |
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| 14:19:16 | daurn|laptop | ;oy |
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| 14:19:36 | JdGordon | yup... remote lcd needs its own statusbar_hieght define |
| 14:19:59 | amiconn | wargh... what did Slasheri do to the charging anim display ??? |
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| 14:20:44 | Slasheri | amiconn: on iriver it should only animate the remaining part to be charged |
| 14:20:58 | amiconn | Yes, but you totally broke the anim on the player.... |
| 14:21:03 | Slasheri | :/ |
| 14:21:42 | Slasheri | hmm, but player has the charge statatus information available too? |
| 14:21:50 | Rori | Bah! My first bad Ebay feedback recieved out of 60 transactions. Barstard seller did not sent full item so I gave him bad feedback. Luckily I was able to counter his bad feedback with a reply. |
| 14:21:55 | Slasheri | so it wont animate at all but should display the real battery level instead |
| 14:22:45 | amiconn | The player charges when the charger is connected |
| 14:22:59 | amiconn | No further detection is possible |
| 14:23:06 | Slasheri | ah, ok |
| 14:23:07 | amiconn | Before your change, it did animate |
| 14:23:27 | amiconn | With your change, it always shows empty battery while the charger is connected |
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| 14:24:18 | amiconn | If I remove one nonsensical instruction contained in an #ifndef HAVE_CHARGE_STATE, it shows the (coarse, estimated) level, but still no animation |
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| 14:24:42 | amiconn | Furthermore, animating only the remaining part is a good idea, and should be done on all targets |
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| 14:25:15 | amiconn | We can do some simple trickery to ensure the animation will be always visible |
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| 14:25:53 | pronto185 | hey |
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| 14:27:13 | pronto185 | any thing on the f20 yet? |
| 14:27:21 | pronto185 | gigabeat |
| 14:27:48 | Bagder | not a working rockbox yet, no |
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| 14:28:38 | pronto185 | damn, if theres a way to back up the f20 , ill be glad to test it if you need me to |
| 14:29:01 | Bagder | I'm not sure of the current gigabeat state |
| 14:29:11 | Bagder | markun is the man to talk to |
| 14:29:20 | markun | Bagder: we have our own kernel with LCD output running |
| 14:29:28 | markun | I'm working on the bootloader |
| 14:29:34 | Bagder | lovely! |
| 14:29:42 | pronto185 | sweet |
| 14:31:05 | markun | The only thing left is to figure out how to enter USB mode before we can finish the bootloader |
| 14:31:28 | pronto185 | you got the interface done? |
| 14:31:47 | markun | interface was done a long time ago |
| 14:31:51 | pronto185 | oh, lol |
| 14:31:55 | markun | It's the normal rockbox interface |
| 14:32:03 | markun | You can try it with the gigabeat simulator |
| 14:32:10 | markun | rockbox simulator |
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| 14:43:57 | amiconn | Slasheri: I now know why the player battery doesn't animate anymore - you changed the struct member that does animate from battery_level to animated_level, but didn't adapt the code that outputs the player battery status to this |
| 14:44:50 | Slasheri | oh.. can you fix that? |
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| 14:45:07 | amiconn | I have another idea for animation & status: round the status towards the nearest (pixel/segment) when discharging, but always round down when charging |
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| 14:45:37 | amiconn | This ensures always visible animation - even 99% battery would have one pixel/segment missing |
| 14:45:50 | Slasheri | hmm, that sounds good |
| 14:46:21 | amiconn | I'll keep the 2-colour approach for displays >1bit of course |
| 14:46:38 | amiconn | This code really suffers from ifdef hell... |
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| 14:48:04 | juxtap | anyone using album art with ipod 5g? |
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| 15:03:03 | dpro | is there an easy way to see which of the patches on flyspray made it into cvs and which didn't ? |
| 15:03:32 | dpro | which reminds me to do a cvs update anyway |
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| 15:14:48 | amiconn | dpro: The patch status should tell you that |
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| 15:21:41 | dpro | amiconn: all I basically see is either "new" or "unconfirmed" ... now that means ? |
| 15:22:06 | amiconn | Well, accepted patches have a status of 'accepted' |
| 15:22:37 | dpro | amiconn: ah - makes sense ;) , thx |
| 15:22:39 | amiconn | (and don't show up in the standard list, because they're also closed) |
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| 15:48:47 | Febs | ping bluebrother |
| 15:48:50 | JdGordon | just spamming http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5364 again soo it doesnt miss out... |
| 15:48:53 | pronto185 | :| |
| 15:49:15 | bluebrother | pong :) |
| 15:49:23 | pronto185 | moo |
| 15:50:04 | Febs | Take a look at Mark Bright's patch/bug report here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5450 |
| 15:50:34 | Febs | It's beyond my LaTeX ability, but he raises a good point. |
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| 15:51:40 | Febs | amiconn, any reason I shouldn't commit Mark's patch 3 here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5430 ? |
| 15:52:02 | Febs | It patches and compiles cleanly. |
| 15:53:01 | amiconn | Can't check it on X5 |
| 15:53:15 | amiconn | Not on ipod either right now, but perhaps tonight |
| 15:53:30 | amiconn | I don't expect any problems though |
| 15:53:55 | amiconn | Btw, I hope I didn't scare you away with my lengthy manual remarks... |
| 15:54:02 | amiconn | Did you check the log? |
| 15:54:27 | Febs | No, not at all. My computer crashed while you were in the middle of them, and I haven't checked the log yet, but I will. |
| 15:55:07 | Febs | Comments are always welcome! Seriously, I now have three RB platforms, but I don't have any Archos, so it helps to have someone familiar with it give input. |
| 15:55:51 | amiconn | Febs: pixelma also made some of the missing Ondio screenshots. The link should also be in the log |
| 15:56:26 | Febs | Great. I'm going to spend some time on the manual this morning, so I'll check the logs right now. |
| 15:57:41 | pixelma | the screenshots show the battery level as numeric - if you want me to change that, please tell me |
| 15:58:33 | XavierGr | amiconn: great job on the voice generation scripts. (did you made them?) |
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| 16:05:35 | Febs | I need to get a wireless repeater/extender of some sort. The weather is beautiful today, but wireless router doesn't quite make it to my front porch. :( |
| 16:05:40 | XavierGr | I managed to make some nice greek voice files the other day. So my work on greek.lang wasn't a waste. |
| 16:07:23 | XavierGr | amiconn: on a slight remark. It seems that the script won't accept a lang file decoded in UTF-8. In the end I had to convert the UTF file to ANSI to make it work. |
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| 16:16:56 | Lear | When running genlang -u, does anyone else get loads of warnings like this: Warning: <x> before line <y> lacks quotes! |
| 16:17:10 | XavierGr | me |
| 16:17:27 | XavierGr | but I think this is not a problem |
| 16:17:46 | XavierGr | or better it won;t cause problems |
| 16:18:14 | Lear | Kind of annoying with three warnings for each and every string. And it makes it harder to find any interesting warnings... :) |
| 16:19:00 | XavierGr | indeed |
| 16:19:47 | XavierGr | so can I put the greek voice file I made in VoiceUI wiki page? |
| 16:20:38 | XavierGr | You said that there were some license issues with ATT, though the voice file I made is made with LOQUENDO TTS. |
| 16:22:00 | Lear | xaviergr: you run genlang on linux? |
| 16:22:30 | XavierGr | yes |
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| 16:22:47 | XavierGr | VMware debian image |
| 16:22:58 | Lear | Then it isn't the cygwin environment that causes it... |
| 16:26:55 | XavierGr | BTW does langv2 supports voice entries per target? |
| 16:27:23 | Lear | I don't think the script does it yet... |
| 16:30:16 | Febs | Does anyone have an x5? I want to confirm that the Rec button enters the main menu from both the file browser and the WPS. |
| 16:35:44 | JdGordon | Febs: i can get a sim build going for u if no1 else can help... |
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| 16:36:33 | Febs | Actually, I've been meaning to try building the sims for a while. Maybe I'll try it. |
| 16:36:50 | * | Febs has a tendency to forget about the sims. |
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| 16:42:02 | XavierGr | Febs: If you have constant interaction with the manual, I advice you to build all the sims. It would be a powerfull asset for your work. |
| 16:43:46 | Febs | True. I'm building the X5 manual now. Let's see how it goes. |
| 16:43:55 | Febs | x5 manual/x5 sim |
| 16:45:07 | XavierGr | remember: in the x5 sim the power button doesn't work |
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| 16:50:43 | amiconn | XavierGr: I know. I still didn't get around changing the voice generation script :/ |
| 16:50:57 | amiconn | At least I know now how to handle utf-8 in vbscript |
| 16:51:09 | jtorrance | Hi there! Does anybody know how to flash an Iriver IHP120 via the debug interface? |
| 16:51:45 | _FireFly_ | jtorrance: afaik no chance currently |
| 16:52:51 | jtorrance | Well... Not good. Does anybody need a bricked ihp120 ;) |
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| 16:53:36 | amiconn | Afaik it is possible to flash via the debug interface... if you have the necessary hardware (bdm wiggler) |
| 16:53:56 | _FireFly_ | jtorrance: wait do you mean via the BDM |
| 16:54:38 | jtorrance | Yeah. Whatever there is for debugging purpose. I thought it was a Jtag interface. |
| 16:55:02 | jtorrance | That BDM wiggler is pretty expensive, isn't it? |
| 16:55:19 | amiconn | Around $ 150 iirc |
| 16:55:35 | amiconn | US$ |
| 16:56:55 | jtorrance | Well, seems pretty expensive just for saving the poor player... I hoped it could be flashed via JTAG because I have access to some JTAG hardware at the university. |
| 16:59:24 | * | Febs has made a mess of his first attempt to build the sim, but he has now found the UiSimulator wiki page and is trying again. |
| 16:59:51 | * | Febs is muttering "RTFM" to himself. |
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| 17:00:21 | Febs | Or, "RTFW" in this case. |
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| 17:06:48 | * | lodesi is back (gone 01:31:21) |
| 17:06:58 | newbyx86 | Mmm. Morning. :p |
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| 17:08:47 | XavierGr | amiconn: Also there is a serious problem with languages that use non-latin characters in Rockbox. |
| 17:09:28 | XavierGr | Guess what happens on the pitch, recording screen, quick menu and graphical EQ |
| 17:09:47 | XavierGr | when the user has already selected a non-latin language. |
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| 17:20:17 | newbyx86 | Odd. The battery won't go past 55%. |
| 17:21:06 | Febs | XavierGr (or amiconn), my x5 sim seems to work, but shows the display only, with no simulation of the unit. What did I do wrong? |
| 17:21:37 | obo | launch it with -background (might be −−background) |
| 17:21:40 | Febs | Nevermind. RTFW. |
| 17:21:47 | Febs | Thanks obo, just found that. |
| 17:26:11 | newbyx86 | Anybody know the battery power on an iPod Photo? I'd say 700 mAh like it came default on Rockbox but the battery refuses to pass 55% |
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| 17:28:54 | XavierGr | bbl |
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| 17:32:56 | bluebrother | Febs: I think I've got a solution for the url problem. |
| 17:33:08 | bluebrother | not exactly as I liked it but it seems to work well. |
| 17:33:25 | Febs | Great. |
| 17:35:29 | bluebrother | I've introduced a new macro, which also makes using wiki links shorter. |
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| 18:30:07 | sharpe | hey everyone... |
| 18:30:46 | Xinux | yo |
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| 18:56:21 | Xinux | has anybody here tried a Dvorak keyboard layout ? |
| 18:56:31 | Mikachu | yes |
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| 19:01:20 | HCl | oh! |
| 19:01:20 | HCl | me me |
| 19:01:28 | HCl | i've been typing dvorak since.. since.. um.. o-o 2002 |
| 19:01:29 | HCl | :) |
| 19:01:38 | HCl | or did i type it before then... |
| 19:01:48 | HCl | no wait, i did.. i relearned qwerty next to dvorak in 2002.. |
| 19:03:15 | Pi_ | i tryed it for a while but i use shortcut keys too much and swaped back until i find a solution |
| 19:04:18 | Xinux | im just simply wondering whats the difference |
| 19:06:12 | sharpe | placement of the keys :) |
| 19:06:12 | HCl | mm |
| 19:06:14 | HCl | yea. |
| 19:06:15 | HCl | heh |
| 19:06:26 | Pi_ | qwerytuiop = ',.pyfgcrl |
| 19:06:34 | Xinux | well, damn, I know that |
| 19:06:38 | HCl | top row: ',.pyfgcrl/=\ middle row: aoeuidhtns- bottom row: ;qjkxbmwvz |
| 19:06:40 | HCl | in a nutshell |
| 19:06:45 | Xinux | but what significance does it bring |
| 19:06:46 | HCl | qwerty was designed to keep typewriters from jamming up |
| 19:06:55 | HCl | dvorak was designed to type english efficiently |
| 19:07:13 | sharpe | however it doesn't really apply to modern times, we don't use oldish typewriters too often. |
| 19:07:21 | ender` | qwerty was designed to slow down typing |
| 19:07:31 | Xinux | nah wtf you talking about ender |
| 19:07:40 | HCl | sharpe: it was still designed to stop typewriters from jamming up |
| 19:07:40 | Xinux | HCI said it right, it was designed to eliminate jamming |
| 19:07:53 | HCl | which is why dvorak was invented :) |
| 19:08:02 | sharpe | HCl: i know, i was just referring to it's use today. |
| 19:08:05 | HCl | there's also an even more efficient keyboard layout than dvorak |
| 19:08:15 | HCl | but that one has the effect as if a clusterbomb exploded on your keyboard |
| 19:08:17 | Xinux | so im guessing dvorak was designed to make typists more comfortable, and type fasteR ? |
| 19:08:22 | HCl | and you'd have to relearn *everything* |
| 19:08:25 | HCl | yea, and it counters RSI too |
| 19:08:32 | HCl | www.dvorak.nl |
| 19:08:33 | ender` | RSI? |
| 19:08:44 | HCl | repetitive strain injury, typing injury |
| 19:08:50 | Xinux | like |
| 19:08:52 | Xinux | carpal tunnel |
| 19:09:41 | Pi_ | HCL: do you have ant solutions to keyboard shortcuts in dvorak? |
| 19:09:59 | HCl | what do you mean keyboard shortcuts? |
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| 19:10:13 | Pi_ | Ctrl +C |
| 19:10:18 | HCl | i just use ctrl-c o-o |
| 19:10:27 | HCl | only my C is where the I is in qwerty |
| 19:11:15 | Pi_ | I like whare it is in querty for shortcuts :( |
| 19:11:36 | HCl | well no one is forcing you to dvorak :P |
| 19:12:07 | Xinux | what about programming |
| 19:12:22 | Pi_ | I supose my ideal would be to revert to querty when the ctrl button is pressed |
| 19:12:24 | | Part akaidiot |
| 19:12:39 | HCl | what about programming/ |
| 19:12:42 | HCl | ? |
| 19:13:06 | Mikachu | programming is easier in dvorak than in swedish qwerty at least... |
| 19:13:09 | Mikachu | ; is unshifted |
| 19:13:33 | HCl | the ; in dvorak is where the Z is in qwerty.. |
| 19:13:35 | Xinux | ; isnt shifted on qwerty.... |
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| 19:13:44 | Mikachu | like i said, swedish qwerty |
| 19:13:55 | Mikachu | and swedish dvorak isn't exactly like us dvorak either |
| 19:14:03 | Mikachu | my ; is the rightmost key on the home row |
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| 19:15:44 | sharpe | you know what game i haven't played in a while? |
| 19:15:49 | Mikachu | pong? |
| 19:15:53 | sharpe | nope |
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| 19:18:06 | ender` | Lemmings? |
| 19:18:36 | sharpe | nah... |
| 19:18:36 | pixelma | space invaders? |
| 19:18:37 | sharpe | warcraft... |
| 19:18:58 | sharpe | pixelma: nope... i still can't figure out what's wrong with the cpu emulation. |
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| 19:24:44 | tim66 | anyone know why the cpu is boosted in the recording screen on the h1xx ?? |
| 19:25:12 | tim66 | commenting it out, I can still record without any problem |
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| 19:27:03 | sharpe | tim66: maybe as a precaution? |
| 19:27:59 | XavierGr | tim: it is boosted for accurate peak meters |
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| 19:29:01 | newbyx86 | Hm. Anybody know how I can hack the code so that it doesn't start itself when I turn it off if it thinks it detects USB? |
| 19:29:03 | tim66 | XavierGr: is that just a visual thing, or to ensure that the clipping detection works? |
| 19:29:20 | newbyx86 | I disabled it detecting USB when it was on, but now when I turn it off it restarts. |
| 19:29:38 | Mikachu | newbyx86: what target? |
| 19:29:45 | newbyx86 | Mikachu, iPod Color/Photo. |
| 19:29:59 | Mikachu | they're hardwired to boot on power plugging i think |
| 19:30:04 | newbyx86 | Ahh. |
| 19:30:05 | newbyx86 | Darn. |
| 19:30:13 | newbyx86 | But it is not plugged in. That is the thing. |
| 19:31:52 | newbyx86 | Ah well. It was worth a shot. Back to homework, I suppose. |
| 19:32:39 | petur | XavierGr: are you sure boosting is done for the peakmeters? |
| 19:34:01 | petur | maybe we need some progress checking to dynamically boost if needed |
| 19:35:02 | tim66 | petur: sounds good to me, the battery life when idle at the recording screen is quite short |
| 19:35:42 | petur | I even doubt boosting is needed at all |
| 19:35:54 | petur | but how to measure... |
| 19:39:14 | Hansmaulwurf | Tomorrow is the Day of Days? |
| 19:40:18 | XavierGr | petur, I am not sure. It is just tha peakmeters cause skipping on iPods, so I suppose on iriver we have to boost. But maybe I am wrong |
| 19:40:30 | XavierGr | Hansmaulwurf: Probably |
| 19:40:40 | Hansmaulwurf | cool |
| 19:41:53 | petur | XavierGr: well for recording it only does some byte swapping and comparing for peak detection, not even asm optimized |
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| 19:45:02 | amiconn | I don't think it's necessary to boost for wav recording |
| 19:45:27 | * | amiconn didn't even think the recording screen could use boost |
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| 19:46:56 | petur | removing the boost will require proper testing however. it's quite a risk to just remove it and potentially wreck a recording |
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| 19:51:33 | tim66 | that's true. I only tried for a few minutes! I think a test with a 48k digital source would be good too, but I haven't got such a source. |
| 19:53:34 | XavierGr | amiconn: what is the size limit for voice files? |
| 19:53:46 | Zendefera | 1.5 mb |
| 19:54:26 | XavierGr | my voice UI is 2MB and iriver seems to load it fine |
| 19:54:32 | Zendefera | but I am trying to see if there is a reason for that limit, or is it just device dependent, because some mp3 players only have 2mb of ram. |
| 19:54:44 | XavierGr | hmmm |
| 19:54:45 | Zendefera | savier, are you blind? |
| 19:54:50 | XavierGr | no |
| 19:54:54 | Zendefera | ok. |
| 19:55:04 | Zendefera | savier you use the voice interface though? |
| 19:55:25 | Zendefera | do you create the .talk files for your music? |
| 19:55:34 | XavierGr | no, I just want to make it available for other users, but who knows maybe I will use it some day |
| 19:55:55 | XavierGr | no I haven't created any .talk files. |
| 19:56:34 | Zendefera | anyone know why when the voice directories and voice filenames is set to talk mp3 clip, that rb doesn't mix in the dir/file names when playing audio? |
| 19:57:06 | Zendefera | but when voice directories and file names is set to spell, I can browse my collection when playing music. |
| 19:57:48 | Zendefera | savier what voice file are you creating? a foreign language vooice file? |
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| 20:04:54 | sharpe | you know what's kind of oxymoronish? "Lifetime Limited Warranty," depending on how you interpret the 'limited' portion. |
| 20:05:06 | rconan | not really |
| 20:05:19 | rconan | it means that the limitations arent time ones |
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| 20:10:38 | XavierGr | Zendefera: I just created a greek voice file. |
| 20:10:47 | XavierGr | ah he just left :( |
| 20:11:55 | XavierGr | anyway, It seems that I will have my hands on many LOQUENDO 6 TTS generators. Would it be legal to create various voice files (for many languages) and put them in rockbox wiki page? |
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| 20:18:06 | grogoreo | hi |
| 20:18:45 | grogoreo | with you having a version for the iAudio X5, would this work with the M5? Being as though it is a knocked down version without a colour screen? |
| 20:19:33 | Bagder | grogoreo: we still need an M5 LCD driver |
| 20:19:47 | Bagder | and we don't know if the LCD is the only diff |
| 20:20:15 | grogoreo | Bagder, ok, thanks |
| 20:20:27 | Bagder | XavierGr: it depends on the license |
| 20:20:52 | * | Bagder leaves again |
| 20:21:11 | midkay | question: since the recorder charging options were removed, is there ever anything in the "Battery" system submenu other than Battery Capacity? |
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| 20:29:07 | XavierGr | Bagder: Where can I find the license? Their site? |
| 20:29:50 | XavierGr | Argh my voice file is 1.77mb even at 8kHz at 6 vbr lame quality.... |
| 20:30:17 | XavierGr | (and sounds like a "bag of shit" :p at such low bitrate) |
| 20:30:54 | * | petur tries to imagine how a 1.77MB bag of shit looks like |
| 20:31:14 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 20:31:45 | XavierGr | At least I am done with the transaltion. I can't do any better. It is 100% translated. |
| 20:31:59 | * | XavierGr points at petur! |
| 20:32:15 | * | petur hides |
| 20:32:21 | XavierGr | :p |
| 20:32:30 | petur | are we going to inc the buffer then? |
| 20:32:38 | pixelma | i think the voice clips are in mono |
| 20:32:42 | * | petur hasn't read the logs |
| 20:32:46 | XavierGr | amiconn said that we can't do more on that. |
| 20:32:57 | XavierGr | so yes we will have to increase the buffer |
| 20:33:29 | pixelma | and how should that work on Archos targets? |
| 20:33:42 | * | petur can't test that |
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| 20:34:21 | Noah0504 | Hey all. |
| 20:34:31 | XavierGr | pixelma I am talking about the lanf buffer |
| 20:34:37 | XavierGr | not the voice buffer. |
| 20:34:42 | XavierGr | ^lang |
| 20:35:16 | XavierGr | I don't think that increasing the lang buffer to 18kB will stop archos model to work. |
| 20:35:32 | XavierGr | the voice file is another story that I am not sure yet. |
| 20:38:43 | XavierGr | pixelma: can you test what happens on ondio if you use a voice file > 2mb? I can provide you the voice file. |
| 20:39:02 | pixelma | XavierGr: have you tried to make them mono-mp3s |
| 20:39:24 | XavierGr | I think they are created as mono from amiconns script |
| 20:39:29 | XavierGr | let me check |
| 20:40:14 | XavierGr | yes they are already in mono |
| 20:40:45 | pixelma | oh I see, I could try but I don't think it makes sense |
| 20:41:15 | petur | XavierGr: is it a male voice? those files are normally smaller as women tend to talk much more :D |
| 20:41:17 | XavierGr | hmm ok I will make some more tests before that. |
| 20:41:26 | pixelma | maybe someone with a greater knowledge about what's behind it all should do that |
| 20:41:59 | XavierGr | petur: ROFLMAO |
| 20:42:10 | XavierGr | petur: yes it is a female one |
| 20:42:13 | pixelma | heh |
| 20:42:20 | petur | see! |
| 20:42:33 | XavierGr | and a very good one I should say. If we can host this on rockbox it would be good. |
| 20:43:00 | XavierGr | Loquendo's tts are as good as AT&T. |
| 20:43:11 | XavierGr | (from what I remember) |
| 20:44:38 | pixelma | btw. I looked on the loquendo demo in the net - seems to be interesting - but I doubt that it's legal to use that without asking for permission |
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| 20:45:58 | XavierGr | well it is the same as AT&T. We used them for so long until a guy from AT&T asked to be removed... |
| 20:46:34 | XavierGr | and microsoft tts suck big time. (not to mention that there aren't many languages supported) |
| 20:49:26 | XavierGr | argh so close... 1.55mb |
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| 20:52:00 | XavierGr | damn, I think the legal notice on the demo page says it all... |
| 20:52:35 | XavierGr | All other rights are reserved by Loquendo. In particular, the User may not use for commercial or business purposes, copy, modify, disassemble, decompile, distribute, disseminate, transmit or broadcast, in whole or in part, the Demo or the Files. |
| 20:52:52 | XavierGr | though it says "Commercial or business" |
| 20:53:05 | XavierGr | is reockbox related to that 2 categories? |
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| 20:54:02 | petur | XavierGr: I say we write them to ask permission as non-commercial project |
| 20:54:44 | XavierGr | good thinking, but I have a feeling that they will decline. :( |
| 20:55:21 | petur | well they explicitly say commercial or business purposes, so non-commercial may be ok for them |
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| 20:59:59 | Scorpius | AT&T Natural Voices is great in english |
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| 21:00:03 | Scorpius | but in spanish, damn it sucks so much |
| 21:06:41 | * | petur tests recording without boost |
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| 21:11:52 | XavierGr | petur: what is the result? |
| 21:12:20 | petur | so far so good |
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| 21:14:29 | newbyx86 | Woohoo! Beat Doom 1 on the ipod! :D |
| 21:14:47 | Mikachu | heh, what difficulty level? |
| 21:15:00 | newbyx86 | The one right before really easy :P |
| 21:15:07 | newbyx86 | I am gonna try nightmare now. |
| 21:15:16 | Mikachu | heh |
| 21:15:28 | XavierGr | we should open a ladder!!!! LOL |
| 21:15:41 | XavierGr | a wiki page with scores |
| 21:15:43 | newbyx86 | lmao |
| 21:15:55 | newbyx86 | ok |
| 21:15:56 | newbyx86 | dead already |
| 21:15:57 | newbyx86 | rofl |
| 21:16:36 | Mikachu | in nightmare, monsters respawn after 8 seconds... |
| 21:16:41 | Mikachu | and move 3 times as fast |
| 21:16:42 | newbyx86 | crap |
| 21:16:48 | Mikachu | or something like that |
| 21:17:03 | Mikachu | and of course there are more of them on the levels too |
| 21:17:10 | newbyx86 | wtf I didn't even die :( |
| 21:17:17 | Mikachu | you can't cheat on nightmare either :) |
| 21:17:36 | newbyx86 | You can't cheat on an iPod anyway. |
| 21:17:38 | XavierGr | Mikachu: As if you could cheat on Rockbox doom? |
| 21:17:39 | newbyx86 | iddqd! :p |
| 21:17:43 | XavierGr | exactly |
| 21:17:56 | Mikachu | in the original version |
| 21:18:32 | newbyx86 | I am gonna play PrBoom on my computer. :P |
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| 21:27:21 | birdfish | Has the bug regarding the id3 database on the iaudiox5 been resolved yet? (I've often noticed that the player will switch to a completely different track in the middle of a song) |
| 21:27:51 | birdfish | But I have never had that problem when not using the id3 database |
| 21:31:30 | XavierGr | Ok now I managed to make greek voice file less than 1.5mb |
| 21:31:37 | XavierGr | should I upload it on the wiki page? |
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| 21:32:29 | mitch- | hi |
| 21:32:36 | petur | better not while the license issue isn't cleared out? |
| 21:32:50 | mitch- | anyone aware of lock ups in the file browser on certain folder names ? |
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| 21:35:10 | petur | XavierGr: the license on their site is not clear at all (different from what you quoted). Better ask them first. |
| 21:35:13 | Noah0504 | Can anyone suggest a nice theme for the Video iPod? |
| 21:35:25 | juxtap | Noah0504, i use rockamp_classic |
| 21:35:52 | juxtap | rockamp-classic rather |
| 21:37:31 | Noah0504 | I'm familiar with the rockamp theme, but what does the classic version look like? |
| 21:37:43 | Noah0504 | Nevermind. |
| 21:37:44 | juxtap | oh |
| 21:37:46 | Noah0504 | hehe |
| 21:37:50 | juxtap | i've only ever used that one |
| 21:37:55 | juxtap | looks just like winamp :p |
| 21:38:33 | XavierGr | petur: ok, link of what you found? |
| 21:38:58 | juxtap | Noah0504, have you got album art to work yet? |
| 21:39:13 | Noah0504 | No, I haven't really tried. |
| 21:39:19 | Noah0504 | I thought about it though. |
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| 21:42:38 | ivan` | hi |
| 21:42:48 | ivan` | are there any browsers except http://rockipedia.techmight.com/index.php?title=Main_Page ? |
| 21:43:07 | petur | XavierGr: http://www.loquendo.com/en/brochure/Pronuncia_Registration_Form.pdf page 3+ (this is for their pay-as-you-go service, no other legal stuff found on their site |
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| 21:45:53 | * | petur wonders is amiconn is around |
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| 21:47:13 | petur | XavierGr: the lang file on the tracker is your latest one? |
| 21:48:00 | XavierGr | yes |
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| 21:53:27 | XavierGr | ah legal crap!! I will wait for someone with more knowledge on this to tell me what to do! |
| 21:53:45 | petur | ;) |
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| 21:58:07 | petur | wicked. this time cywin has no problems at all with the (greek) utf-8 file |
| 21:58:31 | * | petur wonders what made cygwin err on francais.lang |
| 21:59:39 | XavierGr | ah also I found a way to reduce size on greek.lang. Converting it to ANSI makes it around 10kb. But then rockbox won't recognize any character inside :( |
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| 22:18:42 | Mikachu | ansi isn't a character set or encoding... |
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| 22:22:38 | ACK54W | Um. I juts turned my iriver h320 on, i dont see an image on the screen but i hear the harddrive spinning and it connects to pc |
| 22:23:47 | ACK54W | what should i do? |
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| 22:25:10 | ACK54W | linuxstb maybe you can help? |
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| 22:27:28 | linuxstb | Sorry, I've got no idea. Is that in both Rockbox and the iriver firmware? |
| 22:28:03 | ACK54W | yep |
| 22:28:10 | ACK54W | no screen on either |
| 22:28:40 | Pi_ | I persume you have pressed reset? |
| 22:28:54 | ACK54W | yes |
| 22:29:04 | * | petur spots an interesting patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5448 |
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| 22:30:41 | petur | violates all coding rules but still interesting :) |
| 22:31:05 | ACK54W | maybe the battery isnt charged enouh |
| 22:31:47 | linuxstb | You can try charging. But I would have expected the hard disk to be the first thing to die if the battery is low. |
| 22:32:40 | ACK54W | yeh i hear the hard drive spin up when switched on and spin down when shut off |
| 22:32:53 | XavierGr | hmfr :x |
| 22:32:56 | ACK54W | if i didnt mention it.. it hasnt been used for over a month |
| 22:33:31 | XavierGr | I just discoverd that my nick is pronounced as Zavier!!! |
| 22:33:47 | ACK54W | woah.. |
| 22:33:56 | ACK54W | i press off and the screen came on.. |
| 22:34:01 | ACK54W | iriver firmware |
| 22:34:09 | XavierGr | But I say it as Ksavier (with an X as in pixel) |
| 22:34:42 | Mikachu | not like in xmen, eksavier? |
| 22:34:46 | petur | XavierGr: btw, lang update committed |
| 22:35:07 | ACK54W | what version is bootloader on h320/ |
| 22:35:14 | petur | 5 |
| 22:35:55 | * | petur runs off for a while |
| 22:36:15 | XavierGr | Mikachy: I pronounce it with an X bot not as Z but as an X in linux. |
| 22:36:19 | XavierGr | petur thanks :D |
| 22:36:26 | ACK54W | how do i find out which bootloader im on? |
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| 22:36:46 | linuxstb | It should display the number as it boots |
| 22:37:20 | ACK54W | cant see it |
| 22:38:16 | Mikachu | XavierGr: linux doesn't start with an x :) |
| 22:38:17 | ACK54W | anyway inside thje firmware? |
| 22:38:38 | linuxstb | No - the firmware doesn't know which bootloader was used to start it. |
| 22:38:47 | ACK54W | ah |
| 22:39:15 | ACK54W | i've been away for a while |
| 22:39:28 | ACK54W | so im behind times |
| 22:39:34 | XavierGr | Mikachu: Yes but that's the sound of 'x' I prefer in my nick |
| 22:39:42 | ACK54W | whats the recent milestones for h300 project? |
| 22:39:43 | ACK54W | any video? |
| 22:39:50 | XavierGr | the sound of 'z' for an 'x' is very weird |
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| 22:41:15 | XavierGr | petur: BTW, I couldn't find how to get the tts engines from loquendo.com, instead there is a different company for that. |
| 22:41:19 | XavierGr | http://www.qualilife.com/products/index.cfm?id=218 |
| 22:41:32 | XavierGr | maybe we will have to deal with them |
| 22:42:05 | ACK54W | im so confused on the experimental build on misticriver |
| 22:42:12 | ACK54W | back when i was active it was called optimized... |
| 22:42:47 | ACK54W | last thing i can remember was the radio |
| 22:42:59 | ACK54W | i think im on bootlader 3/4 |
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| 22:46:04 | ACK54W | wow osciliscope is awesome |
| 22:47:17 | ACK54W | wow and vu meter |
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| 22:48:10 | ACK54W | Could do with Linus |
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| 22:57:58 | preglow | anyone had any trouble with long flac seeks |
| 22:58:00 | preglow | ? |
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| 23:06:16 | Pi_ | for anyone who was part of the dvorak conversation earlyer: I think i have managed to get windows to work with divorak normaly but swap back to qwerty for typing keyboard shortcuts |
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| 23:07:23 | Pi_ | now to bed |
| 23:07:23 | HCl | o-o |
| 23:07:27 | HCl | how did you manage that? XD |
| 23:07:47 | Pi_ | alot of effort |
| 23:08:09 | Pi_ | used Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator (MSKLC) |
| 23:09:30 | Pi_ | i have to get up early tomorow so i am off to bed |
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| 23:10:13 | HCl | lol. |
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| 23:20:38 | markun | Gigabeat progress: http://130.89.160.166/Gigabeat/rockbox-logo.jpg |
| 23:21:13 | petur | \o/ |
| 23:21:28 | * | preglow throws the confetti! |
| 23:21:40 | petur | the 'box' looks a bit weird tho |
| 23:21:51 | preglow | so, is that you hacking the bitmap or understanding the lcd controller? :> |
| 23:21:57 | markun | yes, the LCD is set for RGB 5:5:5:1 mode |
| 23:22:20 | markun | But we can set it to RGB 5:6:5 mode as well (don't know why wibbix didn't do that) |
| 23:23:08 | XavierGr | markun will it be easy to modify the dsp driver once you manage the basics? |
| 23:23:08 | markun | preglow: understanding the controller, the rockbox logo was in the binary and is drawn over the gigabeat screen. |
| 23:23:36 | preglow | dsp? |
| 23:23:38 | preglow | it has a dsp? |
| 23:23:43 | markun | no, it hasn't |
| 23:24:00 | preglow | what i thought |
| 23:24:06 | preglow | i thought it was just a kickass fast arm |
| 23:25:58 | markun | 300MHz, but maybe we can overclock it some more |
| 23:26:17 | markun | XavierGr: what were you trying to ask? |
| 23:26:31 | XavierGr | I thought it had a dsp like iriver targets. |
| 23:26:50 | XavierGr | so forget my question :) |
| 23:26:54 | XavierGr | bbl |
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| 23:28:47 | markun | XavierGr: also the irivers don't have a DSP |
| 23:29:00 | preglow | only archos targets have a dsp |
| 23:29:04 | Xinux | how do i change my password in this server ? |
| 23:29:06 | Xinux | it doesnt say |
| 23:29:06 | preglow | and it's used for mp3 decoding |
| 23:29:20 | markun | Xinux: doens't say in the faq? |
| 23:29:24 | preglow | markun: 300mhz should be more than ample... |
| 23:29:31 | Xinux | markun |
| 23:29:33 | preglow | markun: arm9 to boot, right? |
| 23:29:34 | Xinux | i did /ns help |
| 23:30:12 | markun | yes, ARM9 |
| 23:30:44 | preglow | sounds amazingly fast |
| 23:30:51 | markun | I was thinking of an extra boost level |
| 23:31:00 | Xinux | markun: nvm found it (/ns set password <password>) |
| 23:31:01 | petur | Xinux: try /msg nickserv help set |
| 23:31:08 | preglow | markun: and how'd that work? |
| 23:31:11 | petur | frrr |
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| 23:32:28 | markun | preglow: normal boost boosts to the minimum level that is needed for all audio codecs and something like a video plugin could do a super_boost or something to get the full speed? |
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| 23:32:46 | preglow | perhaps |
| 23:33:05 | markun | We want as few clock switches as possible, right? |
| 23:33:22 | preglow | deed |
| 23:33:54 | markun | So we shouldn't set it very high when boosting or it would fill the buffer very quickly and unboost again |
| 23:34:54 | markun | But we have more important things to figure out first :) |
| 23:35:44 | preglow | how's release plans going? doesn't look to me like we have what we need |
| 23:35:49 | preglow | like the language update |
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| 23:39:32 | amiconn | Imho we can only release for archos and H1x0 if we release tomorrow |
| 23:39:39 | amiconn | H300 is out of question |
| 23:40:17 | * | petur had some weird recording experience (lost the first 10 seconds: they were silence) |
| 23:40:33 | petur | trying recording without boost |
| 23:40:40 | amiconn | huh? |
| 23:41:12 | amiconn | Recoding should be a boring task for the cpu, just processing a dma interrupt every now and then, and swapping + peak calculation |
| 23:41:36 | petur | yeah, I recorded an cd through line-in and the first part of the first song is just missing |
| 23:42:01 | petur | If I can reproduce I'll try with a boosted version |
| 23:42:03 | Xinux | is flash possible on rockbox ? |
| 23:42:18 | petur | though I can't see unboosting cause this |
| 23:43:11 | amiconn | Would be interesting to make a version that boosts/unboosts randomly, and then record and check whether it's bit-correct |
| 23:43:34 | petur | also, I can't test optical recording |
| 23:44:35 | * | petur is busy committing lang updates from the tracker |
| 23:44:43 | amiconn | Meh |
| 23:44:44 | preglow | amiconn: on what basis do you say h3x0 is out of the question? |
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| 23:44:58 | * | amiconn should finish the charging anim fixes + improvements |
| 23:45:10 | amiconn | preglow: The power drain issue... |
| 23:45:26 | preglow | nothing much else is wrong |
| 23:45:29 | preglow | i still say we release it |
| 23:45:34 | preglow | but anyway |
| 23:45:40 | preglow | is lang file update done? |
| 23:45:51 | amiconn | ?? |
| 23:45:55 | preglow | button names |
| 23:46:05 | amiconn | Nope |
| 23:46:08 | i- | hi, I'm just looking for a *simple* solution to be able to put songs that are not ID3 tagged on my IPod in an ordered manner. I have like a 20 CDs conferences pack with trackes names "track1.mp3", "track2.mp3"... and I don't want to waste time tagging them since I'll probably not listen to them more than once |
| 23:46:18 | preglow | that really should have been done long ago so translations would be fixed by now |
| 23:46:24 | preglow | but that definitely needs to be done |
| 23:46:27 | amiconn | Most of the langv2 restructuring is still pending |
| 23:46:47 | preglow | what i propose we do now is make a list of stuff that needs to be done for release, then we do it, never adding anything to the list |
| 23:46:50 | preglow | then release |
| 23:46:57 | amiconn | I expected Bger to do this, in fact he said he already started |
| 23:47:03 | preglow | bger is missing |
| 23:47:09 | amiconn | yeps |
| 23:47:52 | preglow | release early june might be realistic |
| 23:47:57 | preglow | not tomorrow |
| 23:49:09 | preglow | and i so, i say we make the lang update a priority, so that translators have at least a little time to update. what needs to be done anyway? just fix the button names issue? |
| 23:49:15 | preglow | doesn't sound like it should take too much time |
| 23:49:29 | petur | i-: put them in a folder like /conferences ? maybe just rename them yyyymmdd_description and use the file browser |
| 23:50:02 | amiconn | Doing langv2 properly takes quite some time |
| 23:50:07 | preglow | how? |
| 23:50:40 | amiconn | - Merge the strings which were separated before (mostly player vs. the rest) |
| 23:50:44 | i- | petur: 1 have something like conference/dayX/trackX.mp3 and I'd like to have it look the same on my IPod, as simple as that ^^ |
| 23:50:58 | amiconn | - Change button names per target where needed |
| 23:51:03 | i- | but I couldn't find out how to do that with itunes |
| 23:51:13 | preglow | amiconn: then i say we just forget a release for the time being |
| 23:51:20 | preglow | i'd say the lang update needs to be done before a release |
| 23:51:44 | amiconn | - come up with a clever scheme how to select extra features (like the alarm mod for recorder v1, or Ondio with backlight) |
| 23:52:01 | Xinux | is flash possible on rockbox ? |
| 23:52:02 | amiconn | - empty the strings which aren't needed for a target (text + voice) |
| 23:52:12 | amiconn | preglow: Why? |
| 23:52:22 | preglow | why what? |
| 23:52:30 | amiconn | Imho stable operation is much more important that the button naming thing |
| 23:52:42 | preglow | button naming just looks stupid when done uncorrectly |
| 23:52:43 | preglow | in |
| 23:54:29 | amiconn | Imho even the H300 power issue has higher priority than the button names |
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| 23:54:42 | amiconn | Stupid button names don't stop rockbox from operating |
| 23:55:07 | * | amiconn 's motivation is approaching zero :/ |
| 23:56:06 | preglow | not everyone can fix the power issue |
| 23:56:08 | preglow | it's not trivial |
| 23:56:11 | preglow | fixing the lang file is |
| 23:56:41 | preglow | i don't really care if the power issue is present on release |
| 23:56:54 | preglow | it's hard to fix and an easy issue to put in the release notes |
| 23:56:59 | preglow | but anyway, i need to sleep |
| 23:57:08 | amiconn | Ahem, consuming almost twice the power than it should *is* an issue, imo |
| 23:57:15 | preglow | course it is |
| 23:57:22 | preglow | that's not the point |
| 23:57:31 | preglow | the point is that is that only a few devs can fix it |
| 23:57:34 | preglow | since you need hardware experience |
| 23:57:39 | amiconn | I'm not even sure whether this issue might be dangerous for the hardware |
| 23:57:40 | preglow | and it's not likely to be fixed anytime soon |
| 23:57:55 | preglow | this feature freeze isn't exactly helping us along |
| 23:58:51 | amiconn | Unfortunately the single dev with all the necessary equipment doesn't have time to fix it :/ |
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